The Viall Files - E641 Reality Recap with Tyler Cameron Plus Taylor and Travis, Valley Girls, and Schwartz & Sandy’s

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! Today we are joined by Tyler Cameron to catch up on his life - both personally and professionally - and hear some behind-the-scenes secrets from Special Forces. First, we are joined by our Pop Culture Correspondent Natalie Joy to discuss the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce Rumors, Rachel Levis changing her Instagram handle, and the Kardashian kids responding to paparazzi. We also have a Texting Office Hours caller who got ghosted by a man she was dating only to have him pop back up 10 months later. We help her decide what to do and how to move forward.  “I was jaded by you a little bit.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Join us for our new LIVE show on Thursdays at 9PM ET/6PM PT on Amp, available in the Apple app store. Android User? Listen here: https://www.onamp.com/   To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: OneSkin - OneSkin is the world's first skin longevity company. OneSkin addresses skin health at the molecular level, targeting the root causes of aging so skin behaves, feels, and appears younger. It’s time to get started with your new face, eye, and body routine at a discounted rate today! Get 15% off with the code VIALL at https://www.oneskin.co   Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @tylerjcameron @alison.vandam @liffordthebigreddog @dereklanerussell @genevievegoodman 

you're crazy what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the vile files reality recap edition i'm your host nick joint by the household of ally genevieve derrick and amanda is almost finally kind of back she returned from her trip she's feeling a bit under the weather so she is calling from her home she missed us so much how you doing amanda i did miss you guys i'm thrilled to be back i had the most magical time with my family. And it's good to just be back in L.A. Our pop culture correspondent, also known as my fiance, Natalie Joy, also joins the household. And we have a fantastic episode for you. The one, the only, the heartthrob himself, Tyler Cameron.

Cameron Tyler. Cameron Tyler. Doesn't really matter. Either way, he's still hot. He was supposed to be last Thursday. This episode is going to feel a little bit more like a going deeper because we have our texting office hour. I know we all had that crazy experience with Savannah Chrisley. If you haven't listened to that episode, do yourself a favor and go check it out.

I know many of you are tuning in for Tyler, as you should, but go check out that episode. It was wild. That was just, I'm still recovering from the craziness that was the Savannah Chrisley episode. Anyway, Tyler Kammerer is with us. It's a lot of fun. We'll get to tell her momentarily.

What'd you all do this weekend? What's so funny? Genevieve and I. We had a night. We had a night on the town. You guys had a night together? Yeah. Is that where you got these matching sweatshirts?

I was about to say. This was a coincidence. It actually was. Are they the same brand? Oh, yeah. They came in the same package. We just didn't forget. How do we get them?

Is this like merch swag that we got? Well, this is from Loverboy. Loverboy is the summer house brand of alcohol. Kyle started it. Amanda, his wife, works on it with him carl works on it they reached out after genevieve mentioned them on the show and then they sent us these lover boy the drink yeah or the merch i guess either both are good both great both great both great yeah i haven't seen an espresso martini in a can anywhere else so i feel like that alone pretty special anyway what'd you

all do we started at tom tom yes then we hit sir not a peter in sight i'm a little sad about that why did you go like it's a vanderpump night i've never been to any of these places yeah oh we're not parking on santa monica no okay and we drank a ton. And at certain times... I threw up. Certain times. I've never been to Tom Toms. She did throw up so many times. Didn't we just sound like the little kid

that comes into the room in the middle and then I'm like, Mom, I threw up. I threw up a lot. I'm sorry. You threw up a bunch? A ton. I need to talk to a doctor

when I drink a little too much. You get the spins. Well, absolutely. And then I was out of commission the entire day yesterday. Have you ever blacked out? No. That's a gift. Me too.

You either get the spins or you black out. It's usually not one or the other. And you should consider yourself lucky. Genevieve, did you throw up in the bathroom, in the Uber, in the home? No, she got home. I got home. But I was in the Uber and it was like 15 minutes left of the got home but i was i was in the uber and it was like 15 minutes left of the ride and i was like okay okay like i can do this and in my mind it

was five minutes later i look at the clock 14 minutes left i'm like what the fuck that's the worst do you think it's past 13 minutes did you stick your head out the window yes yes yeah i was freaking out you know what another trick you know what another trick is oh you know what i'm gonna say babe when you get home you have spins. Put one foot on the ground. One leg on the ground in the bed. Yeah. Like when you lay down to go to bed, you put one foot off the bed. I don't like that, though.

What about the monsters? What? I have to be protected under the charts. Do you think it was the espresso martini shot that Tom Schwartz made us in the middle of your red wine? Wait, you saw Tom Schwartz? Oh, yeah. Where was he?

At Schwartz and Sandy's. He was behind the bar. So you went to West Hollywood. Yeah. I don't think I've, I think I've been to Vanderpump. Which one, sir? To Pump. Pump.

Yeah. Pump, it feels like they're kind of combining with Tom Tom now. Yeah, so Pump's dead. And that closed, right? Pump is dead. That's next to Tom Tom's? Kind of. And now Tom Tom serves Pumptini's.

I don't know if that was always a thing. Okay. But I've only ever gotten Pumptinis at Pumpt. Outside of TomTom. Yeah. How was it? Fabulous time. Yeah.

Truly incredible. What was your favorite of the three? Schwartz and Sandy was fun because we really integrated ourselves into the team. You really like... We joined the staff. Yes. Were you a bartender? Well, I kind of.

We asked, do you want help? I like had a thumb war moment with Tom Schwartz. I feel like we really bonded. Did they know who you want help? I, like, had a thumb war moment with Tom Schwartz. I feel like we really bonded. Who you all were? Schwartz did. Schwartz knew. Yeah. I introduced myself to Schwartz. Gotcha. But Greg probably didn't. No, Greg was spilling tea. Yeah, he was talking shit.

Business owner? Again? Oh, right, right. No, that was Brett. Brett no longer works there. Brett no longer works there? He was talking shit, too. Yeah, he was really he was talking a whole lot. I'm gonna get together with Brett and we're gonna see if we can get some details. And Greg was just there

mouthing off to you guys? Yeah. Where was Schwartz? Behind the bar wandering around. Who was he talking was it just about the Toms? Both, yeah. We were trying to like hype up Schwartz and he was like, eh, about Schwartz. But he definitely doesn, eh, about Schwartz. But he definitely doesn't like Sandoval.

No. And what was Greg doing there? He was not behind the bar. He was not behind the bar. Maybe he was managing for his assistants. And he was just talking shit to anyone who asked. I mean, he sure walked on up to it. I mean, I'll make friends with anybody, but yeah, he was giving. So one of the owners of a bar just like is walking up to patrons and just

now I was like taking the drink tickets and like putting them on the payroll at that point. He thought we worked there. No, for sure. We were both wearing. I was asking the waiters if I could do their jobs for them. But why was he talking shit about you? He just walked up. He said, you know who I fucking can't stand.

I don't know how the shit talking started. I don't either. It felt like suddenly he was there. I like to't stand? I don't know how the shit talking started. I don't either. It felt like suddenly he was there. I like to just act like I know people. Yeah. I'm like, oh, my good friend. I know the audience probably wants you to say what the shit talking was, but he didn't know you guys worked for a podcast. It feels icky for us to share.

But was it just like silly shit talking talking or do we need to get this guy on the podcast we don't need to talk about it but like let's talk about it but like but i also thought it was interesting because when i was i wanted to find out what greg's last name was so i just googled greg schwartz and sandys and people posted like a week ago someone posted a tiktok that she went to schwartz and sandys and he was talking shit week ago someone posted a TikTok that she went to Schwartz and Sandy's and he was talking shit to her too like a random girl on TikTok we're not the only ones he's sharing this unfortunately is it just like the typical like he's just not a fan of of Sandoval it felt like he was venting to us yeah there were some details yeah yeah but I felt like

we were pals we were good friends with with much of the staff by the time we left. Oh, yeah. I wanted Allie to get a number, but then he disappeared. He went on break and he never came back. Did he seem drunk? Schwartz? No, Greg. Oh, no.

Greg seems sober. No. Schwartz? Maybe. I mean, he took the shot with us. Yeah. I made him take the shot with us. Yeah.

Oh. What a night. Okay. Well, Nick and I went to a Mexican restaurant last night, Casa Vega, the Kardashians favorite Mexican restaurant, if anyone wanted to know. And I realized something about Nick in that moment. You know, like when you are you're talking about something and you want to like you see something and you want to share with the person you're with. Like, oh, my gosh gosh like love that girl's skirt or like love a bid for connection yeah yeah a what a bid for connection it's like when you

a bit it's like if you make something even if you say something that's like not a question but it's like you're like say an observation it's like you're trying to connect with whoever you're with by like sharing that and being on the same page about it. So you can call it like a big connection. It gives you a point to yes and. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yes. And anyways, and so Nick and I were talking about how delicious a Coca-Cola, an ice cold

Coca-Cola would taste. And we're waiting. We've been there for like 10 minutes. We were like waiting to get seated. I was parched. We were parched. Yeah. We're really excited about this Coca-Cola.

And I see this waitress. We're standing like literally in the middle of where the waitresses walk by. And she has a tray with one single ice cold Coca-Cola on it. And I did Nick a favor and waited until she would literally get to where all he would have to do is turn his head to the slightest bit and he would make eye contact with this Coca-Cola. head to the slightest bit and he would make eye contact with this coca-cola and i said oh my gosh look at that coke where did nick look do you ask me not in the wrong direction but the opposite direction he looked up he looked on the ceiling um not really sure why and then by time he came back down he then looked to the right and she was just gone and i was so mad i'm like no she's left you missed the moment you decided to look up i don't know what the fuck was on the ceiling like why you thought a coca-cola would come from the ceiling i want to go to that restaurant i mean yeah have you been somewhere where that happened it was a sunday i was you know sunday i was the brain doesn't work i had tapped out of anything. And I don't remember.

I guess I looked up. She's like, look at that. I was like. Look at that Coca-Cola. But we also, Natalie, had this epiphany at dinner, which was concerning for the both of us. And that is, we realized we're going to give birth to a valley girl. We are going to give birth to a valley girl. We are going to give birth. That's not good.

Like our daughter is going to be born in the valley. For the rest of her life, she is going to, no matter where she ends up. And I don't know how I feel about that because that was such a famous thing to be. Stigmatized. And it's very much stigmatized. And Natalie made an excellent point about like,

I'm just a kid from Wisconsin, the Midwest, and she's just a girl from the South, Alabama or Georgia, depending what time of her life you ask. It does change every day. And now, especially in California, when people like it's like, oh, you're from Wisconsin. There's a oh, you're from you're from Alabama. There's a there's a safety ness in that of like oh you're you're harmless schwartz showed me his minnesota tattoo yeah it was a bonding time you're safe to be around and like nothing against my california people i love you it's like i've it's where i've chosen to literally start a family but there's a sense of oh i'm from la where you're just a bit

like guarded you know you're not sure the rest of her life she'll have to go somewhere and be like oh yeah i was born and raised in la and every time someone tells me they're born and raised in la they say it with a bit of attitude you know like la i'm from uh yeah it's usually condescending i feel like and i'm sorry for all the born and raised LA people out there. Love you. Thanks for listening to the show. But I'm a little sad to realize that our daughter is going to be a Valley girl.

I'm going to force her to have a Southern accent. Are you just going to lay it on? Yeah. You know who we saw on Friday? And I don't get starstruck very easily. Pedro Pascal. Really? And he's hotter in person,

if you can imagine. Oh my God, I actually can't imagine that. No, I know. I couldn't either. He has such a star face. You know, it's larger than life. And I don't know if his dimensions of his actual face are in fact large.

It's just like his face took over the room. And not because it's him, but he has such distinguished... He was just... He looked so cool. Yes. He was just wearing like

these tinted glasses. You couldn't take your eyes off of him. And his hair was all messy. And he was... Sexy. He was like waiting for his table. We believe Sarah Paulson was also there,

but her back was to us, so we really couldn't make it out. Well, he's like besties with Sarah Paulson. Yes. And like we saw the back... They're famously mommy and daddy of Hollywood. We saw the back of someone who could have been Sarah Paulson was also there, but her back was to us, so we really couldn't make it out. Well, he's like besties with Sarah Paulson. Yes. And like, we saw the back. They're famously mommy and daddy of Hollywood. We saw the back of someone who could have been Sarah Paulson, but we didn't try to make

it that obvious. Let's just say it was. No, it was. We saw Sarah Paulson. Yeah. No, we didn't. We did see Sarah Paulson with a group of people at Pascal once, but it wasn't with Pedro. It was kind of cool.

It was. He definitely, he looks every bit of the star that he is. I only know him from Crunching Nut Sandwich. Bro, are you fucking kidding me? You piss me off. She didn't know who Jon Hamm was. Can you believe that? Love you.

Amazing weekend together. I had a weird conversation with Jon Hamm once. Very nice. Weird how? Who is he? You could tell he was being very friendly to me because we had mutual friends. I could tell he didn't want to be in the conversation and it was like awkward for the both of us. And it was, but he was very nice.

Jon Hamm is someone who I automatically assume is his character in Bridesmaids, which is a testament to his wonderful acting. But I feel like I hold a grudge against him because of how effectively he plays a dick. i could just tell he didn't want to have the conversation with me that he was having but he was also attempting to be nice at the same he was basically i related to him and so i empathized that was like something many people can say i've related to john ham well just the fact that he didn't want to talk to me

and i often don't want to talk to people yeah yeah well to be fair he's more of a bravo fan so oh yeah i wasn't then yeah yeah but he is a baseball fan we talked about baseball for a minute what team he's a cardinals fan i believe oh yeah the cardinals fan are staunch in their support they are they are the most annoying baseball fans out there thank you so much for saying it's not the red sox yeah which is shocking yeah you know but as a brewer fan we uh we don't like the uh cardinal fans anyway i don't know if any of y'all care what else is going on in the pop world before we get to tyler cameron well speaking of our you know since we're so tight with the vanderpump community um we encouraged her to do now now Rachel has officially changed her handle on Instagram

so for a while she had just changed her name but the handle was still Raquel now it is officially Rachel Levis and she has added Healing Era to her bio

what get ready for that podcast what if that's the name of the podcast Healing Era honestly it probably will be yeah I can see it now ugh

it'll do well that first episode. That first one. And also, maybe you guys can raise your kids with the Kardashians, because Kim Kardashian is raising her children here, and Saint, who is seven, just gave the paparazzi the middle finger. That's so interesting, because Kourtney's son, Rain, he is known for being a terror to paparazzi.

And so I wonder if Saint picked up on that from Rain. Because they just will flick off whoever. They don't care. This is a normal thing. For Rain, it is. Courtney's son, Rain. Courtney's kids. Oh, but not Kim's kids.

Right. I know a girl who used to nanny them. Oh, like the bad cousins. And yeah, her story's about Rain. He would like, she said that they would go on a walk around the neighborhood and he'd see like an old like couple, you know, on their afternoon walk. And he'd just go, take your top off to an old lady from across the street. Courtney's son, Rain.

And she'd just have these stories of him like being so terrible. But they're like hilarious. Do you remember how old you were when you first started swearing? I was really young when I think about it. I would like try to work around it where I would be like, oh, Van Damme. Because I was like, it's not actually swearing. That's funny. Oh, Van Damme.

Or I'd stick my tongue out on people inside of my mouth. That's not a swear word. No, but do you remember when you were like saying fuck and shit to your friends? I remember when I learned it and someone told me it was fuck like not fuck and so then i like and i sat on that information for like a year and then finally like i was like i'm gonna spread the good word and so i told someone i was like no like fuck and like my friend made me feel so stupid she was like it's fuck amanda how old are you i was in third grade i was like eight or nine i was like in the second grade and i had a potty mouth i remember that has not changed i have a memory

of like being on a walk with the dog and being like you really gotta swear less nick the dog said that no me well maybe honestly i was in the second grade but i have a vivid memory of being like this is why this is too much I was in the second grade. But I have a vivid memory of being like, this is why. This is too much. You're in the second grade. At least you have to realize that's a dark path. You're like smoking a cigarette while you say that to yourself. I had an early poverty mile. I don't know. What about you, Genevieve? Yeah, I remember learning them. I remember on the bus ride back from school,

the older kids would come to us and be like, OK, we're going to make you guests. It starts with this and it ends with this. Guess what it is. And I remember specifically learning cunt because they were like, this is the worst one ever. And we were like, oh, my God. I can't believe we've graduated to this. And it took us the entire 40 minute bus ride to guess cunt. And we finally guessed it.

We were like, hmm. It wasn't really like, I didn't think it packed as much as a punch when I first heard it. You're like, so what does it mean? And they're like, we don't really know. But it's bad. But it's bad. But it's so bad. I thought you were taking the word back.

Well, I mean, when I was in like the fourth grade, they were like, never say this. And so who can use the word cunt now? Not you. Not me. Basically anyone but you. I think Derek might be allowed. Derek before me. Derek's just like Gen Z.

It kind of feels like Gen Z has reclaimed it. And then like millennial women. I just also feel like with the power dynamic of Boston employee, it'd be a little different if you walked in, you're like, sup cunts? But you can call me that. I don't think I've called you a cunt.

You certainly have. No, I think I've called you like little slut. Yeah. But if I say it, then it's like, does he really think I'm a,

is he joking? Is he joking? Are you scared? Can I say it not towards you? What if I say it in a positive way? Yeah, like, oh my gosh, that's so cunty of you. Oh, my Green Bay Packers, those cunts are going to win this week. I think maybe if you said...

Can I say that? No, I think maybe if you said cunty, it's a little bit better. About who, though? No, no, no, like in a positive way. I feel like, Natalie, you're serving cunt today. I love it. Really? I can say that?

Yeah, you can say that. I'm a safe place. I'm a safe place. God, could you imagine? Workshop it with Natalie and then bring it to us. Okay, we'll test it out. Okay. Out to dinner in public?

Maybe at home first. Start my Instagram lives. Next time you look at the ceiling for a Coke, I'll have a little cunt. Kevin Federline wants Britney Spears to increase what is all these deadbeats trying to get more money from their kids truly unclear good job Kev come on Kevin Federline wants more child support Nick Jonas

Gold's fans overthrowing things why are people still throwing things I don't know it It's not good. We gotta stop this trend. Why do they keep calling him the camp rock star? Like, isn't he past that? That's kind of sad. Wait, who said this?

I do think, though, sometimes with these articles, they pick the most random Everyone knows who Taylor Swift is. But then you read an article and it's like the bejeweled singer. It feels like they just always want to have something new it's it's it's click it's is because then they have they embed a link to a previous article where that was somehow the headline it's also like an english class when you were told like don't you repeat the same words like you have to find synonyms and so it's like they'll find like a million different little

descriptors for the same person yeah yeah no because like someone reading this article is gonna be like camp rock like what is nick jonas was in camp rock you know like someone like myself what how do i know he was like the lead yeah are you not nick no joe joe was no i'm not well the three of them kind of were no but have you seen the tiktoks of the the scene of them in the limo where Nick is like, you're getting some really bad press. So now you have to get it figured out. And someone reposted that saying after the Sophie Turner divorce, and it's just a baby Nick Jonas talking to Jill. Like, you're getting some really bad press.

So we have an issue with that. The band has an issue with that. I didn't have a cable. Anyways. It also wouldn't have been out at the time you were watching. I just came to the realization that Nick's a boomer. I'm not a boomer Holy shit

You're not a millennial Yeah I am I'm the oldest millennial Ever? To ever live? Out of all the millennials Wait going back to football Thank you

Seems like Travis and Taylor Might be Dating Wrong Because Travis Jason Didn't deny it.

Natalie has become obsessed with the Kelseys. I have ended up on Travis, Kelsey, and his brother's podcast TikTok page. Oh. They're just like

very charming brothers. They banter off of each other very well. And they're just... Like, I don't... I have no idea what they're talking about because it's mostly about football

and I really don't know. But Travis has like kind of a nice face to look at. I don't know if anyone else would agree, but it's kind of nice. He's cute. Would you support him and Taylor? For sure. Knowing what you now know about him? For sure.

Because I know the song would be so good. I agree. Oh, yeah. You know? But did you see the announcer snuck in blank space to his commentary? He snuck in so much stuff. Kelsey finds a blank space for the score. Like he's being an anti-hero. Like, oh, this is so delicate.

Oh, who did this? The NFL announcer. Those cheeky monsters. The NFL announcer is a Swifty? Or he's just like playing fun. Doing his homework at least. Like perhaps situation. Definitely doing his homework.

Wow. Pulled up the discography. I heard they like had met met but it's nothing romantic other sources are being like they're spending some time together and it might be casual but they're seeing each other and then jason said i know trav is having fun we'll see what happens with whoever he ends up with that's q for taylor we like it they're both so fit, too. They would have, wow, the athleticism in that bedroom.

Oh, my God. Seriously. She runs five miles every day and sings at the same time. She runs five miles every day. That's how she prepped

for the Air Store. And I know that directly. She told you? I don't remember the last time I ran five miles. Someone in her family. Her brother. Think about it.

No, it actually wasn't. She's a brother. Yeah. Allie could have married him, but she kind of humbled the kind of i had a conversation with him i didn't propose you didn't close you could have moved the needle on that one her mom blew me a kiss that's all i needed that's basically in the family i know you're basically taylor swift taylor swift actually strikes me as a remarkably good sister-in-law like i feel like she would be

very out of her way welcoming and like she would be the one who like notices that like maybe you're on the periphery of like the mingle part before dinner of like a family event and would like be very good about like bringing you into the conversation oh my god 100 i told you the one time i hung out with taylor swift she spent the whole time like dancing with like this 10 year old girl and made sure she had the best possible time. And then she gave you a ride home. She gave me a ride home. With other people.

Nick's like, and then we ran five miles together. She was everything you just described in the brief moment that I saw her. So, you know, yeah. What a queen. Is that it? Are we getting to Tyler Cameron? Question. Before we get into Tyler, do you think it's pierced? What is pierced?

Have you not seen everything online? I haven't heard the controversy. Oh. The rumors? The debate? Are you guys being serious? Yeah, like people want to know. We'll show you the video.

Like everybody was saying they're going to watch this episode on YouTube to like zoom in. With the grandma? No, that was him trolling. Yeah. I guess they're responding to the original video? Yeah. What's the original video? Him working out in blue shorts.

A little potential piercing through his shorts. On his penis? Yeah. Let me see this picture. We'll show you. When people pierce their penis, where do they do it? Is it like a surface piercing? The head of their penis. It looks like almost a rod coming on each side.

But then how do they pee? I don't know. Do they do it to the side of the urethra? I don't know. If you could just not go through my urethra, bro. It's like a side part. It's a side part. No, no.

I don't know, but honestly, that would terrify me if I were going to have sex with a man and he... You guys are nuts. See? What is that? Wait. Oh, God. Oh? Oh, God. Yes, indeed.

Click on mature content. Do you see it? Zoom in. Well, then I'm gonna get banned for mature content again I think it's just a weird crease yeah Natalie where would that be pure I don't know I'm scared I feel like it's like a rod at the end with two little

balls on each side like a nipple piercing no I'd be shocked but maybe I'd be shocked that's not a very like that's just a fucking crease the crease which continues down. No. It stays.

That's not a crease. It stays. No, it's not because it doesn't move. It's a crease. I feel like we should just stop staring at Tyler's dick. Well, I think he's putting it in people's face to stare at. True. You know, those angles are very much from down below.

They are, yeah. That's true. But I just feel like, listen, it's a weird looking thing, and it makes all these different shapes and sizes, and who knows what's down there, you know? Truly. I would like to find out. Yes yes it could be the workout strings it could just be talked in a in a weird way you know it's but he's gotta see that that does look a little

suspicious i hear you but i doubt he saw it before and i don't even think it's him who's posting we know it's not him who's posting is it? Well, we'll find out before we get to Tyler. Just know Thursday's episode of going deeper. Dustin Lynch, country music star. Dustin Lynch is with us. Let's talk about his new album, his new music.

We'll get to know Dustin. He broke up with Dustin. Yeah. Broke up with his girlfriend back in 2022. I don't think he's been seeing anyone ever since. Oh, Dustin. Okay.

He broke up with his girlfriend. As the only single member of the household This is my investigative journalism To see how good I have to look before coming to work Is that what it's about? Correct Honestly I feel like that's a smart way to think

Well on Thursday Allie tries to score a date With Justin Lynch Tune in for that Tyler Cameron time Well don't forget to send in those questions at AskNickAtTheVileFiles.com a date with Justin Lynch. Tune in for that. Tune in to find out. Tyler Cameron time. Well, don't forget to send in those questions at asknickatthevilefiles.com for all things Ask Nick, texting office hours.

We have a great texting office hours for you today, this episode. I know we don't normally do that on our reality recap, but we had to move some things around because, you know, tea. All right, Tyler Cameron, everybody. Well, if you want to defy the father time and keep that skin glowing and looking youthful and fresh, you have got to check out OneSkin.

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Yeah, it's good to have you back. How is your heart? My heart is- We start every episode that way. It's great. It's full. It always throws people off. You said your heart is full. episode that way it's great it's full it always throws people off you said your heart is full it's full man it's full and it is good to have

you back right because you're in love is that why it's cool i don't know about that but you know right because i'm home i'm back in jupiter you know oh there we go there we go yeah uh yeah welcome back man it's good to have you i think you were my first ever podcast that i've done really i think i left the uh the final rose it came straight to you that was definitely our biggest episode for a while yeah 2019 yeah my first ever podcast with nick and my last one because i'm here right now oh my god i'll do more i'll do more you're retiring after this we'll never come back to the vile files uh you got a new haircut that's yeah internet's talking about that god i needed it so bad i wanted to have my haircut for a long

time but was under some contractual obligations i couldn't have my haircut did like the fans hate the mullet or well the mullet was like i was i'm just gonna cut my hair in phases like chop off the the long hair and do the mullet. Because why not? I had a couple of weeks before this. Is that a product of being so good looking that you just try different hairstyles out? Let's see what I can pull off. Let's see if I can still be super hot.

Sure. You should go bald next. So I was thinking about getting myself a little shave and fade. When was the last time you buzzed all of your hair? Like ninth grade. So I think it could be. Oh, no. I think in like my freshman year,

I did have one bad haircut one time. I was convinced by the football teammates to shave my head and do like a mohawk. Not a good idea. Really? Yeah, especially at Wake Forest, which is like a really preppy school. Wait, we play Wake Forest.

Who's Wake? Yeah. Auburn? No, you don't. Yeah. No, you don't. Yes. No, you don't. Yes. Natalie, you don't.

Why do I know that name then? Because it's just like a really prestigious smart school you probably try to get into. Did you date someone who went to Wake Forest? It's a prestigious smart school. You probably tried to apply to it. It's okay. It's all right. Oh, no.

Perfect. Actually, yeah. I probably didn't get in because I don't know math. I'm just kidding. No, I don't know math. It's all right. We're not going to bring up the miles per hour. No, no, no. We won't. It's fine.

We don't need to talk about it. Nick will help our child with math and I will retire. Retire from helping with any school activities. Just any school activities, really. I can do a project. My dad got cut out of that after first grade. He just couldn't.

He didn't want to. We had a really bad experience. Dramatic. Oh my God, what happened? My first time going to this really nice private school, first grade he just couldn't he didn't want to or we had a really bad experience traumatic oh my god what happened um my first time going to this like really nice private school first grade you know we get our first assignment it's like two plus two equals brown like four it's like so you color in brown you know and so like you're doing this whole thing and i'm doing it all and my dad's there doing it with me my bunny's blue right and my dad's like that's weird but you know kid shit it's probably fine you know the next day i go to class and everyone raises their their bunny like he goes all right pull out your homework everyone raise your bunnies let me see how y'all did everyone's got a brown bunny i got a blue bunny my dad was never allowed to do homework with me ever again

how did you recover from that i don't know if he has i haven't oh i haven't first thing i've had a speech impediment ever since that That's why I mumble. That's why. So does Nick. Do you think you mumble too? Yeah. Everyone thinks Nick has a lisp. Everyone says I'm the worst person to talk to on the phone.

I get that a lot too. Oh my God. Diving into a lot. I'm scared you're going to stop after first. Like, everyone thinks I'm Todd on the phone instead of Tyler. I'm like, is it that fucked up? Wow. Yeah.

Who's everyone? People that I call for. No, I think you're just talking about my lisp. Sorry. You know the critics. I do mumble a lot, though. I said that to my sister. I was like, yeah, people think that Nick has a lisp. And she was like, he does. I was like, what?

I don't hear it at all. Sometimes, like on The Bachelorette, I'm like, dude, I can't even understand what I'm saying. Really? When it was up there. Are you still watching your episodes? I go back. I try to relive them. It's his nighttime show. He falls asleep to himself.

I still love going back and seeing Hannah move the podium. You know, like, I watch that probably three times a month. It was maybe the best season of The Bachelorette ever. Yeah, how does it feel to be a part of that season? That's huge especially that scene it was great to bless them with my you know experience on the show no it was i mean it's cool like you know i i was just a little random kid you know doing

construction and just throwing this crazy world let's never forget his intro package in which he was dancing through a home what dancing through the home yeah so when i was signing up for the show my modeling agent i already had the time he's like ty i don't want you to do the show because it says right here in bold letters we can use all embarrassing footage against you and he's like they will ruin you tyler i go what's the worst thing they're gonna do hear me blow up a toilet you know like I'm not gonna let shit out you know literally and so well and yeah until special forces exactly and then uh and so I told the people I love the dance and I remember they had me do a dance move in front of everybody like the final uh interviews hit a mean ass pirouette they loved it oh what is a pirouette it's like a spin in ballet can you can we see one hit a mean ass pirouette nailed it and then so they called me two weeks

later after they already told me that i'm coming on the show they go we would love for you to do a dancing scene in one of your houses and i'm like uh here they go with the embarrassing shit already called my modeling agent told him about he's like see i told you they're gonna do this you shouldn't do it and then i sat on it for like two days i was like you know what what what's the worst that can happen you know and i did it i danced and it looked great it came out all right it came out all right i honestly like i remember when i signed up for it and i had the same kind of fears they're gonna fuck with me and i think one of the producers after they cast me he's like oh what are you what are you doing? He was like, checking in.

I'm like, I just got back from the gym. He's like, oh, great, send me a shirtless selfie. And I was like, no. You know, like, but I kind of wish that I was more, even in my intro package, I was like, I'm not going to do anything. I kind of wish I was more like what you did, which is like, fuck it, if I'm going to do it,

I'm just going to have some fun with it. It did work out really well, but it could have gone really bad where i just sucked on the show they limited they're like you're that idiot that danced and and you know it looked like an idiot that's what happened to me so this is what tyler busted out this is what you did did you wear the crown oh this is annabelle gonzalez she's one of the great ballet artists my god you know your stuff no I really don't know who that is. Annabelle Gonzalez. I know.

I mean, shit. I think every three months when we're or so, we're always talking about, could Tyler ever be the Bachelor again? We talked about it when you're on Special Forces. I think there's always speculation about, has the show ever asked you? I know you've thrown out if they made it worth my while, but have you ever really talked about like all the conversations the show has had with you to try to make you the bachelor no not really um i've really made in public you

know uh but they've we've talked we've had our discussions and i told them my wants and needs and they've met some of them but not all of them and but also to like timing and place you know how hard do they try like not hard enough yeah but pretty hard yeah yeah but i mean i asked my demands were crazy but as they should be though would you be willing to share one of them uh a lot of money that's that's the one i yeah and host fuck it i don't care so you asked them to host yeah i was like i was like after that i don't because i you asked them to host yeah I was like after that cause I was like

then they can't fuck you over you know what I mean yeah can't give you a bad idea I thought you said and hose and I was like period what kind of season

we making here it sounds like a real flavor of love you know what I mean is this before or after Chris Harrison this is after so you're trying to steal

Jesse's job you know he's a quarterback he understands guys coming for your job job you know he's a quarterback he understands guys coming for your job right but might as well take a shot in the dark you know yeah you might as well i'm the kind of person i don't like the half-ass shit i don't like to i don't like to be calculated i just do and i just go and so like if i'm going to do that show i want to just do it and go and and give myself 100 and right now i don't think i'm at that place i would want to have like

the like you know everything towards it and give you feel like you're in a place to settle down yeah I think this the switch is flipping it's flipping yeah party boy yeah and my buddy always told me like there's a mid time with that that switch flips and I think it's just come with because I'm just putting so much on my plate I have so much more responsibility now that I can't afford it to be the reckless. Because I was a wild kid. Everyone's like, you're a party boy. Yeah, I've been a party boy since I was 17 years old.

Once I had my first touch of alcohol. It's been on and popping. And so I think now I've put so much on my plate, I don't even want to drink. I don't want to go out anymore. I just want to work and grind and dug myself in a pretty deep hole. And now i want to get out of it and learn and grow and figure shit out what do you mean by dug yourself a deep hole like just i put myself into a lot of investments a lot of projects you know i put a lot on my plate now it's like but you're going for it i'm going for it yeah like

but it's like for the first time a long time i put a lot of pressure on myself. And it's scary. I'm worried about payroll. I'm worried about, you know, because I built the machine and it's a huge overhead. I mean, like you have here, you know. And so, like you got this thing rolling. Now it's a machine that feeds itself. Right now, I'm still feeding the machine. I need to start feeding itself soon.

That must feel also pretty good at the same time to like bet on yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It does. When the money's in your bank account yeah but i feel like you're not gonna fail no no not at all i'm a key i mean i'm i'm i'm i'm so stubborn and so so dumb that i keep failing i'll keep going you know yeah when like even i don't even see it being a failure for you but maybe a step back here or there there's a lot of people i wouldn't bet on from Bachelor Nation, but I would definitely bet on Utah. Yeah. No, I'm excited. There's really cool things happening in Jupiter.

I moved back home. I'm doing construction. I'm doing restaurants. I just opened up my fourth one. Now I'm building houses and I'm renovating for clients. And I've failed at some of these houses. And I'm still in these houses way longer than I want to be. But I also did really well in some of these houses.

And then I got a house coming for sale. So it's like all these little lessons I'm learning along the way and building the right team is so important. Are you actually renovating them or are you just the finger pointer? Well, I do a lot of finger pointing. But you could. I've always been in management. When I first built my first house, when I was 24 years old, it was about putting

everybody in place and keeping the project rolling. And that's kind of what I do now. But now I'm about to do my own house and really dive into doing it myself because I want to learn. I want to get my hands on it. I really want to understand what's going on and why it takes this long or why it has to be done this way. When you say your house, a house that you intend to move into and live in.

I just bought this house. Yeah, it's the ugliest thing ever. You're going to flip it. It looks like a funeral home. You're going to tear down and flip it. No, no, no. I'm going to renovate it. It's like an old 1970s home.

Lots of character. Like, super cool. It's the biggest house I ever lived in, you know? And so, like, I want to be in it for a while. Maybe raise some babies? Yeah, raise some babies, you know? I told you that switch is flipping. Okay.

I'm talking about doing a vegetable garden, you know? Okay. Mm-hmm. Damn. is there anyone like in your life right now that has has caused this flip to switch or is it just more i think it's more responsibilities okay also the way i look at women has completely changed too how so i think before to be completely honest like i went through dating as like i'm just a little kid from a small town like now i'm in la new york i didn't come this far just to go date somebody back in the small town like i'm gonna go take my crack at models and actresses and all these things and then i did all that and then i'm like well this got me nowhere and then i've just been like you know know, reading a ton, listening to some podcasts and stuff. And the guy I love is Steve Harvey.

That is my celebrity hall pass. Really? Yeah. Hall passes are bad. Tyler was like, huh? Yes. But he says something that has just made it so simple and stuck with me is, is a woman or an elevator button.

And they're either going to bring you up in life or they're going to bring you down. And when I meet somebody and I talk to them, I take my time just thinking about that with them over and over and over again. Are they going to bring me up in life or are they going to bring me down? And once I feel like they're going to bring me down, done.

From the roster. Have you had your heart, maybe not even broken, but damaged a little bit between Tyler on The Bachelorette and you sitting on the couch today? Have there been moments where you've had some- Crush, stepped on, rolled over, reverse, rolled over, you know? Oh my God.

Yeah. No, I definitely went through some, you know, a heartbreak that really taught me a lot, but also like- What did it teach you? Put me back in check too. I mean, I was dating a girl and everything she cared about was everything I didn't care about. Money, fame, you know,

all these things. And all I cared about was like wanting to have a family, live a special, you know, live like a certain lifestyle. Like, you know, she wanted to have private jets,

boats, all these things. In my ego, my mind, I was like, you know, I'm making money. Like,

you know, back then I'm thinking it's going to be forever. You know, this way, like on social media, you know, I call it, I shake my ass on social, I was like, you know, I'm making money. Like, you know, back then I'm thinking it's going to be forever, you know, this way, like on social media, you know, I call it, I shake my ass on social media. I make, you know, another good deal is what I call it. I was like, I'll just shake my ass forever. I'll be good. You know, but that's not true. It's not realistic, you know? And then when we broke up, you know, I was sitting there talking to, you know, I figured it out. Like my ego told me, oh yeah, I can get the boat. I can get the house. I can get the jet, you know? But really like, why does that fucking matter if you're trying to build a family and do these you know what i mean it's like at the end of the day did you even want that or were

you just gonna give it get it for her exactly yeah exactly and then once i took a step back and then you know it took a lot of time and and then i went on a bad spiral and got out of it and then i feel like the last year i've been trying i've been getting in a lot better place with that and how do you date now yeah how do you date and trust i know that's something i struggled with i think i brought in who i look at before i was like it's got to be someone with a name status star you know because like that was cool you know and that puts you in a certain you know keeps you cool you know but then after i did that a few times i was like that's just not cool you know i'd rather just date somebody who's a good person and good for me because you get date the wrong

person you start doing things that are out of your character out of your out of line for you and you start putting different pressures and stress on you like i was dating a girl who i was so into like i've been wanting to date this girl since before i had any type of fame or status and then i finally got the dater and then i I was like, this lifestyle isn't, yeah, you know, great girl, amazing girl. But the lifestyle, everything that I was like, that's not me. It won't work. It won't ever work. And I was like, I tried to push my head like, oh, yeah, it is you.

You can do that. But then the more I realized, I'm like, I'm simple. Like, I want to have land or I want to live on the water and just be with my kids. And I want to coach high school football. And like, that's it. And I don't think a lot of people can fit into that you know that's what nick was doing too what's that fucking all the wrong bitches then he checked his dms it was like wait a damn minute there's a gym there's a gym in the dms there's a gym in the dms let me give her a chance then he fell in in love. Yeah. Isn't that right? Yeah.

There's a theory, too. Like, I think those out there, it's like, it's about the right time instead of the right person. I mean, there's definitely a theory out there. Do you believe in that? I don't. Yeah. I forgot who it was.

You're talking about Timothy. Was it Timothy? No, it was the dude that just got engaged to Kai Gerber. Austin Butler. He was dating Selena Gomez forever and then now all of a sudden he's engaged.

They're engaged now? Apparently. He dated Vanessa Hudgens for like 10 years. Yeah. And then. Well, there's that photo of Vanessa meeting Kaya

when Kaya's like six. That's a loss for everybody. Yeah. I think some guys like, I think it all is like, you know, my dad's always like,

it's going to hit you one day my dad's always like, it's going to hit you one day. And I guess how he met my mom. But that shit crashed and burned, you know? And then every girl who I've been like, damn, it hit me. And it's all crashed and burned. So I'm like, let's try and build something off of foundation, you know? Yeah.

And the bones are good. That's a tough picture. Really for everybody. Which one? Selena and Kaya? Not for her. Vanessa Hudgensgens I think Vanessa comes out great

Vanessa whatever her name is Kaya is like six years old That's crazy That is crazy How old's Harrison Butler? Are you good? Awesome

My bad Are you okay? I don't know these people 32 32 How old's She's like 20 21 She's like 20 21

22 okay we love an age gap a healthy age gap age appropriate age gap but we love one we love one are they engaged rumors of a potential engagement it is shocking how much she looks like her mom

Cindy Crawford oh you know that name. Harrison Butler. Come on. But you know Cindy. That Pepsi commercial? Oh, yeah. Haven't got it out of your head, have you?

I mean, it's one of the greatest Super Bowl ads of all time. But that's how I hope our daughter looks. In a sense, not like Kaya Gerber, but like... Awesome Butler or Kaya Gerber? Harrison. No, but like, Kaya's like, she's so her mom, you know? Yeah, I hope so too. I'm like terrified. I'm terrified that my daughter is going to like inherit all my bad traits.

Have you guys gotten to the bottom of this yet? Because I haven't. Some people have tried to explain it to me, but I can't figure it out. Please. The balloons. How did they get the pink balloons into the black balloons? I don't know. I wish I was there when they were making it but I couldn't because I couldn't see the colors obviously

but I feel like they put them in there unblown up and then they have a long you know I don't know it just to me sounds crazy I really liked it because we've spent some time thinking about how do we do this

and there's so many just like horrific gender it was very it was very intimate and chill there was like you know these fireworks people getting hurt houses burning down and i just didn't want some sort of embarrassing oh there we go wait there are multiple ones well just. This is a six minute video. Oh, geez. So then he ties that. You asked for this. Yeah.

Okay. Who was in charge of bringing the balloons to you? Cindy. Cindy, who is family friend, house assistant, 75 year old kooky lady. I've seen her. Yeah. Yes. So Cindy did.

So. You need to do more with Cindy. She's great content. We do need to do more with Cindy. She's great content. We do need to do more with Cindy. I mean, we should have got her on The Bachelorette. The Golden Bachelor. Could you imagine? She would be the best.

She is great TV. Yeah, but then she would have left Siggy with you. Matt's mom is looking hot on The Golden Bachelor. Just throwing that out there. Damn. Damn, maybe she doesn't need to be on the show. She's been stepping her Instagram game up since she's been off the show even double tapping damn would you date her she's looking for love but yeah uh we we got it we did the blood work to

the gender and then now i got a call and then now it's by blood work if you find out that early so we found out like 10 weeks wow and I was so down and in the trenches that I needed to know immediately Nick wanted to he wanted Cindy Nick obviously has no idea

what the gender is based off the clothes he buys for the kid can we talk about that yeah I thought it was fine no there was a pink hat in there

the fuck is a blazer it just it spoke to me you know I don't know it spoke it gives a shit.

You know what it, it reminded me of. Get her set her to work. She's going to take over the vile files one day. Yeah, like the Frankensteins, you know, like, you know, like those kids and they wear like dark clothes and stuff in them. Like the Addams Family? The Addams Family. That's what I meant.

Frankensteins. I'm just going to make a video of like little isms. Everything that's been misspoken just in a reel yeah it was really it was really strange it was a really cute moment that I thought we were gonna like really love going in there and just and just picking out all these cute little dresses and he picked out a trucker hat and a blazer. I just can't help but feel like, oh, I would like this. Literally.

He was like, I feel like I would wear this. I'm going to get it for her. I definitely want to have matching outfits with her. Take it away. As much as possible. I think that'd be fun. Poor girl. Natalie, would you like mommy and me a little matchy? Maybe.

Like little dresses? I feel like if you guys had the same dress. I'll have to think about'd be fun. Poor girl. Natalie, would you do like Mommy and Me? A little matchy? Maybe. Like little dresses? I feel like if you guys had the same dress. I'll have to think about it. Maybe. We did pick her name. Nick, if she wants to be in a princess dress and you have to be in a princess dress, you gonna dress up? 100%.

Heck yeah. Will you let her paint your nails? Absolutely. I know you will. Cut your hair? Probably. At this point? I think Nick's a few tattoos away from painting his own nails.

That's honestly true. I know we saw Tom Sandoval and he was like, I kind of want to match. He's getting rugged on me. Tom? Or Nick? Well, Nick. Nick, yeah. But yeah, I'll absolutely let her do whatever.

That's so cool. I know. It's time for you to give our daughter a best friend. Here we go. I'd love to. Well. I'm mature enough to hang out with her. Honestly, this might be the age gap we're talking about.

No. Natalie. Too far. Listen, when Nick was in high school, I wasn't born yet. I'm not in high school. I'm a 30-year-old man. Yeah, you're right. It is a little weird.

All right. I retract my statement. I got to be 50. Our daughter's not going to have daddy issues. No, you're right. Yeah, I definitely did. Do. What?

Do you? You. You have daddy issues. Well, we were talking about our special we were talking about special forces you give off the vibe that you've been traumatized well no we were talking about special issues jennifer you're up we were talking about special forces we were talking about the ds's yeah i'm on the show i'm in love with them and so why i'm reminded that you every older guy i don't know you're about to start crying every other guy we talk about you're like yeah i'd fuck them

no just those three and that's how you know that they're special there's four of them come on genevieve really special horses are they billy what do i call them oh i found them i found them i found them okay Don't you worry about me. My search didn't get me anything. Oh my god. Look at their poses. They're so hot. They are. They're real hot. Oh, I forgot about the young one. That's not even this year's cat. That's this year.

Who's the brunette one? That's Rudy. That's Rudy. Or Foxy. Yeah. The one on the right is the one I'm truly in love with. Yeah, the one on the left. He also smells really good. The older guy? Yeah. All right, here we go. I honestly asked him when I was done what his cologne was, and he wouldn't tell me.

He doesn't want to get sold out. I thought you were going to say I honestly asked them, do you want to date this girl that works for me? No. All right, ladies. Fuck, marry, kill. Those three guys right there. Wait, there's four.

Well, that guy's not part of our season. So we have to pick between the other three? What happened to him? We have a different guy coming. Really nice guy. I've been messaging with him, actually. Really? Yeah.

He's the one I like the most. He seems scary. I liked him the most, though. What are their names? Remy is not on it. So you got Foxy on the left. You have Rudy in the middle. And then you have Billy on the right. Is our got Foxy on the left, you have Rudy in the middle, and then you have Billy on the right. Is our left

and your left the same thing? I think so, actually. Billy has the gray hair. Salt-N-Pepa is Billy. This one? Yes. This is Billy. Middle's Rudy. Rudy. And Foxy. And then Foxy. Real name. And then we have Q, who replaced Remy. I don't know. It'd kind of be fun to

scream Foxy in bed, right? Oh, yeah. I'll tell you if you guys areemy. I don't know. It'd kind of be fun to scream Foxy in bed, right? Oh, yeah. I'll tell you if you guys are correct. I'll tell you guys if you're correct based off your answers. How do I find Q? I think I let this man do whatever he wanted to me. He's got real blue eyes and he smells good. Just like the way he's standing right here.

He seems like a very confident man. Wait, he's the tallest, isn't he? No. Foxy's the tallest. Really? I feel like he's confident man. Wait, he's the tallest, isn't he? No. Foxy's the tallest. Really? I feel like he's just little. Foxy's a beast. He's a beast.

Yeah, I think I'm going to fuck Foxy. I'm going to marry Rudy. This one. Yes. And then I'm so sorry, sweet Billy Angel, but you've got to go. So here's my question of the game. So that's exactly how I would do it. You would?

You get to fuck them. Do you just mean you get to fuck them the rest of your life? Yes. But it's like sweet love. I think just one. It's like sweet love. No, you got to marry. That marries the rest of your life. Yeah.

You know what I mean? There's no passion. That's what sweet love is. Like the one you're marrying is like the sweet love. The one you're fucking is like you're just going to get fucked. Railed. Absolutely. I'm going to go and find him good old good old you want you want

remy okay park you he doesn't need to get a shot i just really want to spend the rest of my life with him i can't find q uh look up special forces season two i was so scared of him yeah i'd kill him because he was so mean to you honey well he Well, he actually... Well, now he's nice to you, but... That's like enemies to lovers. That's so hot. When I got done, he sent me a really nice message. What would y'all do? You have to kill two people because there's four. The most fun I feel like to go out with and have a night out with would be Foxy.

Foxy, yeah. He's so sarcastic, so funny. And I feel like he'd be a wild time. That's what I feel. The one I'm marrying is rudy because rudy he is a gentle warrior he is sweet he's nice he's definitely a fucking killer he's a killer he's a fucking he he's he's a provider he's protective and he was like he was the like the teacher he like you could tell he wanted us to do well. And he would always like be guiding us and nurturing.

Where the other guys were just like, fuck you guys. I have a lot of hormones going on right now. And I'm like, I feel like this is going to work. If you pull up his Instagram videos. Show Rudy his long hair. He's just 190 pounds of steel sex appeal. I mean, the guy's shredded. Yeah.

Oh my God. And he's 50. I mean, he guy's shredded. Yeah. Oh my God. And he's 50. I mean, he looks like he could be in like Captain America right there. Rudy Longhair from, oh my God. Oh my God. No, I literally chose perfectly.

I'm continuing. I'm continuing. Rudy's sober. Like just, he's level-headed. Wow. He's level-headed. He's got you. Does he have a good handshake? Oh, God, yeah.

I'd love to shake his hand. These guys don't do anything wrong. No, they don't. Would Rudy not like me if I was like, can I have some wine before we fuck? No, no. Rudy would be the baby. Whatever you like. Oh, my God.

I have to leave. Foxy would tell a joke. Foxy would tell a joke. How did we get on season three? I would die. Me on season three? I would die. Me on season three? But here's the thing. We just fuck our way

Foxy would go shot for shot with you. I have a feeling I'm changing Steve Harvey. Damn. Someone's not meeting them. Good thing Drill Staff's not at the premiere party. Yeah.

But what was wild, Tyler and I were talking about this. I mean, truly, they are incredible men, badasses. We were definitely afraid of them. But on was wild, Tyler and I were talking about this. I mean, truly, they are incredible men, badasses. We were definitely afraid of them. But on social media, it made me realize just how embarrassing social media is because they're kind of soft on social media. They're fucking dorks on social media.

But it's not their fault. It's just fucking social media. I go back three weeks and I read a caption I wrote, and it's just fucking embarrassing. You get the ick from yourself. but i think oh my god yeah i get the ick for myself i also also though i think there's a difference between who they are when they're in their job which is war or drill staff or like that's a different persona different person and that's such a hard tough job that you gotta leave that job where it is and when you come on the other side you gotta be a completely different person you know and so i think that's what we see we're like damn these motherfuckers killed us you know what i mean like really went after us and like the reason why i'm

saying i'm killing billy and killing q's q put me through hell and billy every time i thought he was being nice to me he really was just setting me up to kill me you know and so it was like like but those guys are just elite you know and elite warriors and killers and and protectors of their countries but then when they come to their families and their life here they have to leave it all there they can't bring that back home so we're seeing like rudy such a soft-spoken nice guy you know on instagram we're like damn that's not the same guy and q who's laughing, drinking tequilas and margaritas and shit in Cancun. Like, I'm like,

that's the guy who would like that same laugh. That same laugh would put fear in all of us. Oh my God. He had the evilest laugh. He'd go. Yeah. And he'd have this grin. If you would have told me that he was a Terminator,

like a robot, I would have believed you because it was just more like every once in a while foxy would crack a joke and even billy would give you like a little you know tap on the on the back every once in a while but q nothing nothing no act no just pure fear i will say i accomplished what i accomplished because of Q and Billy though because they're the ones who definitely pushed me the most okay so question who of the four is most likely to have a red

room a red room like in 50 shades of gray I know you know what we're talking about come on baby we have one we're turning into the nursery we have to take down our swing that's why Tyler's here to renovate. Y'all should keep the baby in the room for a little while longer and then just, you know.

In the bassinet. It's like, if she's five years old, she's sleeping in the bassinet. She's a sibling. Foxy. Or Rudy. I was going to say Rudy. It's not a red room, it's a passion room.

Rudy would be the closeted freak because he's so on point. He comes across as very structured and organized. Actually, Billy. Yeah, but that wouldn't surprise me, though. No. I think Rudy's just going to caress you and kiss you. He's a gentle lover. Gentle warrior. Yeah. They had some stories. Billy was a prisoner of war. I think twice.

And escaped once. Can you get them on the podcast? Oh yeah. That would be sick. That's like getting Peter for me. Because Foxy I sent you the clip like Foxy was telling stories about some of the other shows they did. It's insane. It's insane. It is. When they took over the clip. Foxy was telling stories about some of the other shows they did.

It's insane. It's insane. When they took over the bus. Yes. You got to get those guys on. I love listening to them. They're my new favorite follows. Aw.

As much as like. Yeah, I realized you didn't follow me back. So maybe. I don't follow you back? No. So maybe that's why. I'll soon jump up past them once I deserve the fall back. Maybe after this week. I felt like at Zach Bryan we really became close.

Yeah. You know? I did too. I did too. And you guys got me even more hooked on Zach Bryan. That's the only thing I listen to now. No, I know. Also, talk about what a win for him to get arrested.

I know. Did you hear about that? Yeah. Did you watch the that? Yeah. Did you watch the video? Yeah. It was like, how many times, like he said all the right things. Hey, I respect law enforcement. I fucked up.

I'm sorry. But what a PR win for him. You think so? His mugshot is hot. Why do you think it's a PR win? Because he's one of the few, like as a musician, I think maybe you could include actor, but musician especially, they're trying to have like a persona, like this larger than life persona. And this was a victimless crime that he got arrested for. So no one got hurt. He mouthed off a little bit. His mugshot, he looks fucking hot. He has this kind of outlaw. There are still kids to this day hanging posters of Frank Sinatra, his mugshot in their college dorms. It's like a legendary photo of Frank Sinatra. And now this aligned with Zach Bryant's new release of his

album. And think of all the people who now know who Zach Bryan is just because he got arrested and he has this like fucking glam shot mug shot and no one got hurt. It brought all this awareness. He looks like a badass. See, I think total opposite. Really? I don't think he looks like a badass at all. Like, I love his music. I think he is, and I still

will listen to his music, all that. Like, I love him. We all make mistakes. We all fuck up. I think when you are on the high he's on like i've been on a high but we're not experiencing this we're not selling out arenas you know what i mean you feel invincible and so i think he you know he was feeling that invincibility and then he then he got arrested and then he kind of came down a little bit and then he got heated in the car and he was saying some stuff like you know he kind of i will i will have you know and then like he kind of stopped himself yeah i'm like you sound like every other white boy who's like i'm gonna have my attorneys get you right my dad's

an attorney yeah he was like i let in 50 police officers to my show yeah no i didn't see that so like that to me was kind of a letdown because i'm like dog you're so much cooler than that and like if you respect these cops and you just you know, you do all these things for them, like you want, you would let them handle his business and got out of the way. And you wouldn't like, you know, he said, you want me to arrest you? He said, yeah, arrest me. And then as soon as he got arrested, he's like, my bad, man. Like, come on.

You know what I mean? So I think like the picture is sick. He looks great. I think it was like a good sense of like get you back down to reality like you are just another being but he handled it well though I mean I get you're right about that the aftermath he did he humbled himself

a day later and he he's like hey I fucked up yeah but we would all say the same apology no I know I just think I don't know I just think more people know who Zach Bryan is today than they did three weeks ago. And at the end of the day, he's got great fucking music. Yeah, at the end of the day, he's going to keep putting out great music.

The one reason I love his music is it's got meaning. It's got, you know, story to it. It's got, you know, I think he is. It is. It's honestly amazing. I think it was like a humbling experience that I think we all need to get knocked down and like put back in our place to realize like respecting cops, elders, women, people, whatever. Was there a moment that you ever had maybe in the past, you know, three years or since

you've been in the public light that you've had a humbling experience where you thought to yourself, you know what? I'm not as invincible or as cool as I thought I am. Yeah. When Lewis Hamilton takes your girl. Damn. I can laugh takes your girl. Damn. I can laugh about it now. Damn.

Out from under you? Probably pretty much. Lewis Hamilton. The F1 driver. F1 driver. Yeah. That'll humble you, you know?

Yeah. But, but, you know, like, I mean, I'm messing around there, but,

you know, I think I've had my, you know, you run your eyes, like, it's power, like, the power you get but you know, I think I've had my, you know, you run your eyes, like it's power, like the power you get when you have fame in a stupid ass number next to your name is crazy, you know? And it's easily, thanks guys for pulling them out. You know, and then, you know, you get knocked down and you get around some other people who are the real deal. You're like, oh shit, I ain't that.

You know what I mean? But I am me and I'm proud, you know, and it took me forever to start realizing like, I just need to be me and be proud of me.

Yeah. And I'll get to where I need to go. Have you ever been arrested? No. I'm such a pussy when it comes to getting in trouble. Outside of the red room? What are you talking about?

Handcuffed. Oh, no, I haven't even got handcuffed like that get over here he's like but i'll handcuff kiki no i haven't i haven't gotten any of that stuff yet oh soon to come well i always said handcuff someone no nothing no no but when i'm 60 or 70 like i want to go like to jail for a day. So you're a gentle lover. You're not like a freak, let's get nasty.

I'm all of the above. I think time and place. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. What's Nick? He's a freak. Freak? Yeah.

Love that for y'all. Yeah. That's very fun. Period. Just saying. We'll play you one of our videos. Yeah, send me some props.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll put it on the projector tonight. Appreciate it, yeah. Can we pull it up right here again? Actually, yeah. Let me aird put it on the projector tonight. Can we pull it up right here again? Actually, yeah. Let me airdrop it. Special forces.

What made you go on? One, I wanted a vacation. That was a miss. No, I was just finishing up a huge project that hopefully we can talk about soon. And that beat me up. Took everything out of me. And I was just mentally, physically, financially just beat up.

And I was like, I need a break. I need to get away from everybody and reset. And the show came to me. It was like a week and a half before they started filming. And my agent's like, you got the show offer. Do you want to do it? I don't think you should do it. And I was like, my immediate reaction was yes.

But I was like, let me sit on it. Because she's like, i don't want you to do it my team said the same thing because they're like it's a competition show like i don't think you should be doing competition like it'd be kind of just puts you like in this wheel of competition shows and you're just kind of washed up you know and then the next day we had a big team meeting about it i still wanted to do it because i just wanted to get the hell out of town and like push myself in some a different way and my manager was like this is the number one show from 18 to 45 demographic like it's a really good show for you to do I think it'll show a different side of you and so once I got kind of his approval he spoke everyone kind of agreed and then he went with it

nice what about you well Natalie when she saw the preview we were watching one day we were watching it and season one preview came on hannah season and she just turned to me and said you have to do that show and she said it in a way where she was like i will be very turned on if you're awesome freaks if i get to watch this show and i said all right say less no he's like i actually think they like i think that was i might have been offered that and i turned all right say less no he's like i actually think they like i think that was i might have been offered that and i turned it down like for the first season i wasn't sure i don't know i don't know if that was the case i because sometimes you you know how it is you get like they don't tell you they're like there's this show and they're doing x y or z and you might get

hurt i'm like now i'm good or something i don't know if it was that and maybe they did because it was the first season this time it was just like like, hey, have you heard of Special Forces? Are you interested? And as soon as I heard about it, I was like, yes. Other than turning on my fiance, I wanted to. I thought it would be just a. It takes that to turn your fiance on? He doesn't have to go on a TV show to turn me on.

Are you here for the right reasons? He's got to be on TV for you to like him. But I just thought. You're doing good though. I just thought it would be cool to see what I could accomplish. You know, I wanted to see if I could do it. Yeah. Yeah.

On a personal level, it was really, I was really glad to hear that you were there though when I found out. Really? I was nervous because of like, you know, you never, you know, these shows, you don't know who's going to be there. I had heard Tom Sandoval was going to be there. Not that I was nervous, but I just didn't, you know, I shows, you don't know he's going to be there. I had heard Tom Sandoval was going to be there. Not that I was nervous, but I just didn't, you know,

I was just like, I didn't expect to bond with him, you know, but it was, and like, but at the same time, we. I had the opposite reaction.

Yeah. What was your reaction when you caught out Nick was on the show? this guy Nick's the only? Probably. Well, we weren't like tight. No, we weren't.

And honestly, I was kind of like jaded by you a little bit because I told you this and like in the, in the, in the Jeep, you know, I was like, you said some shit about, you know know what we were doing with the quarantine crew during covid you know what i was like like because we were dancing goofing around or whatever i don't even remember and i was like this guy you know two few months later this man's dancing goofing around you know what i mean like we all were just like didn't know what to do with our time i was like

i was like nick you know and once i got there though and i saw nick i was like oh from the middle of your face like i feel a lot better you know and then we like started talking hanging going you know you go through this shit you have no choice but to bond you know and i think going through that like was able to put everything aside and like i also like grew up too like realized like nick you like your job is to speak and talk about things so like it's easy for one of us to get our feeling you know feelings offended like but like it's your job yeah i actually it made me feel good when you said that too just because i do like hate that part about the show and i don't love like talking about my peers and i don't even feel like i'm saying anything harsh but i do forget like it's just a sensitive world out there yeah because like when you started

podcasting it's like you kind of realized you. Yeah. Cause like when you started podcasting, it's like you kind of realized you got to talk about shit. You got to talk about people, you got to talk, you know? And so, you know, and once I learned that and realized like,

cause I mean, I listened to a lot more podcasts now and it's what you have to, you know, it's your job, you know? And, and like I was listening to Stephen A and Shannon Sharp talk about it. Like,

like how do you, you know, when you say, like for instance, like you talk about, you were going in on Tom a lot, you know? And it's like, and then when you, you know, when you say, like, for instance, like you talk about, you were going in on Tom a lot, you know? It's like,

and then when you see each other, what's that interaction like, you know? And so, and like when I saw you, like, was it, but like for me,

it was like familiar face. We're here to, to get through this together. All that went out of the window. Then we were able to like really build a bond, you know? I like Nick so much more now. I couldn't have done what I did if it weren't for Tyler.

Yeah, that's true. Same. It's so funny that people have this kind of because uh we were at joe and serena's wedding this past weekend i don't really know but andrew spencer was there and he was talking to me and he was like i fucking love nick man like i love him and he was like i'm gonna be honest like i kind of didn't when i first met him You know like kind of rubbed me the wrong way But once you get to know him like he's such a fucking loyal like good man Mm-hmm, and I was like that's so true like people just don't I think your critics Don't give you a chance

to like really get to know you and just I feel like if anyone who you've maybe Talked shit about or just talked about their life, if they had a conversation with you, they would feel a lot better. I got a sharp tongue and I'm a bit standoffish at times. Oh, no, for sure. So, like, I get it. But also, like, that show strips you to your core

and, like, you get to see Nick to his core. You know, hopefully it comes out in the edit, but, like, I got to see Nick to his core and, like, bond with that person. And, like, there, like, to me, like, I got a great friend when i left there you know and so like that is like one of the coolest things about this because like i haven't had this type of camaraderie or this type of bond with anybody since football

and so it was so cool to be i mean you were a college athlete like to have to go through stuff with you know for us brothers and sisters basically at the end of the show you know yeah we were looking out for each other. I mean, there were times where it was like... Nick was grim and dark. I know. Y'all were saying JoJo was like, I'd look over at Nick and I'd be like, fuck, he's in a bad way. Yeah, but we were all checking in at times. A couple times I checked in on Tyler and JoJo, but they were definitely there for me for a period.

Yeah, I had some dark days, too. I was like, I should be sitting on a beach right now drinking a margarita. I already made my money. That was the hard part, because that's the cool thing about the show. It's like they pay what they pay you and you can go home day fucking one. So every day you're doing this crazy fucking shit and you have these four sexy, hot DSs who are actually just mean as fuck just screaming at you tearing you down and it's like you know there's moments where you think i'm about

to get a pick me up from them i'm about to get a pack on the pet on the back from them and they're like you want to fucking quit don't you should quit you're like get the fuck out of here you know shit like that and they just strip you down and it's just like they're really testing you yeah like every time you're like going through something like they're like it pays to win it pays to win so i gotta win i gotta win then you get there they just shit on you some more you know never paid to win yeah no they just made you run some more but they know your limits they really do and they're they're there to see how far you can push yourself and that was the greatest thing it was like i've accomplished things that i never thought you know never would do on my own never ever and now i catch myself like i'm in the like

in my gym and i like i want to torture myself no we see oh yeah and no we know your workout videos turn me on i'm not even gonna lie i mean it's for all audiences joking but like i will say now i'm older too and i just like have a little less energy, I see your videos and I'm like, fuck, he looks good. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, you look great. But I catch myself like, oh, I like this song. I'm going to do the same movement until the song's over. Because that's what we would do.

They would just make us hold poses and movements and just be painful. And I'm like, I'd like to try and feel that some more now. Maybe I'm getting a little freaky, Natalie. Maybe you are, damn. Would you do it again? Immediately after the show, I was like, I will never do this shit again now i'm like i'll do it again yeah just not in the cold i had a similar reaction that we and we a lot of us you know in the middle

of it we would be like so if they paid you the same amount would you do it and we were all like fuck no absolutely not but like three weeks later and the ds's would all tell you like you're gonna miss this whenever you leave you're gonna miss it and i'm like fuck no but like three weeks later i i definitely i would go i would go back tomorrow yeah but i mean it is just truly incredible like the setting we were in the i mean we're sleeping in these little barracks you know it was very uncomfortable but it was so cool you know it was a lamb slaughterhouse before we got in there so that's like just to put in perspective like it was nothing nice but you walk outside and you're in the middle you're in the valley of all these beautiful mountains and it's just most picturesque beautiful place and you get to do the coolest shit you'd ever do

every morning tyler and i we'd wake up and for whatever reason we'd sit at the edge of our bed and we had to like get dressed and tyler and i would just look at each other and like shake our heads like what are we doing just kind of like yeah tyler would laugh and i'd be like fuck and then like another day and like every inch of your body is just in pain sore and then i just wake up and look over at nick i'm like what the fuck are we fuck let's go home no truly but it was like it was it was those moments that kept me going truly you know and it was having you know tyler there and then we we became close with jojo and bode bode was like the dad you know jack and jack and bode were definitely the father figures on the show they just like knew so much about

outdoor stuff and like bode being the olympic athlete like just knew so much about outdoor stuff and like Bodhi being the Olympic athlete like just knew so much about like muscle recovery and shit like that he was always giving us like really helpful notes. They were huge to our success of the show like just like to like surviving. It was great. I love those guys. It was a really great experience. I'm really excited to watch it back. I feel

like it's going to be hard to watch back and to see you in such a vulnerable and in pain and crying because apparently you cry a lot, I think is what I've gathered from the trailers. There was a tear there. I'm just kidding.

It was emotional though. No, I'm sure. I boohooed. I cried. He did. Threw up. I heard about that. What was that? I don't know. I didn't know how to respond. yeah i cried he did threw up i heard about that should we uh give some someone some relationship advice yes please, please. All right, it's time for texting office hours. Hold on to your kilts, dearies. Peacock original The Traitors is back with a new season of strategy,

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Hey, good. How are you? What's your name? I'm Taylor. I'm 35. How can we help Taylor? Somebody I dated from my past recently reached out and I'm not sure what to do. All right. Well, tell me about this guy. What was the dynamic of the relationship? Were you boyfriend and girlfriend? Were you married, engaged, dating? What was... Dating. We were dating for two and a half months.

And it was honestly one of the best dating experiences that I've had until the last week. Really? Okay. What until the last week. Really? Okay. What happened last week? I was about to be leaving for a long trip and he completely changed just the way that he was interacting with me. So he had been really consistent the entire time. He would text me almost every day. We saw each other twice a week. He would plan all the dates in advance, sometimes two dates ahead. And then the last week that I was leaving, he canceled two dates in a row. Didn't even attempt rescheduling until I was about to be leaving. Kind of ghosted a little bit on that. He didn't reply for a day. I had a follow up. I'd never had a follow up on a text from him. In the time that he didn't reply to my texts, he posted 17 Instagram

stories. And some of them were other girls posts. And all of that was just completely out of character. What about another girl's post? He was with other girls in those story posts. There weren't girls. It was kind of fashion pictures. But when I clicked on whose original posts they were, they were of a girl who lives in our same city. And all the other pictures on her profile were very sexy photos, but not the ones that he'd reposted. But he was reposting her content? Yeah, to his stories. But the real thing was that he wasn't replying to me for a whole day. I had a follow up about the plan.

And then I also I got some really weird text messages. He wasn't texting like himself. He wasn't talking like himself. He's making a lot of excuses. And it just it didn't feel like the same person at all. And where were you? Were you going on vacation or were you going like on a sabbatical? Like how long were you planning on leaving?

What's a sabbatical? Like when you were to like, if you had a job and then you like take like six months off to like write a book, like a long vacation, I think. Never had a job. So it was a five week trip. Yeah, it was five weeks. So it was a combination of a work trip and then a vacation, which I do multiple times

a year. I travel a lot for work and I usually try to add a little personal trip onto the end. And it was my traveling is something that I've had challenges with in the past in dating. And so it's something that I'm really upfront with. And from, excuse me, before we even went on a date, he knew I had that trip coming up. It was planned very far in advance. It's also five weeks. That's not the end of the world.

And you weren't going off the grid, right? Like you were planning on communicating with him while you were traveling and things like that? We're actually talking about him coming for a few days towards the end of it. What were the messages that he sent prior to you going on your trip? Do we have those?

Do we want a reading of these? It's my job. Yeah, dramatic reading. All right, Tyler and Natalie, take it away. I will be you, Taylor. And Tyler will be this man. Jerk off. This jerk off. Hey, handsome. Hope you're having a great time with the fam.

Let me know what time you're thinking for tomorrow i'm sorting out the rest of my day hi it's been a good day overall on hour five of about seven hours of travel today he used three eyes at his eye first red flag hi so my elderly father got into a car accident early this week he's fine and it wasn't at all at fault guys i get nervous reading in front of people sorry taylor i'm making you read because i can't his car was most likely totaled though we're driving back from blank to blank right now and my original plan was to take the train back to blank tonight but i'm gonna make sure my parents

get home safe and sound and spend some time with them. My mom is a little shaken up. I won't be back in time to spend time with you. Sorry. I'm sure you understand. Oof, that's a lot of travel. Sorry to hear about your dad's accident. Hope everything turns out okay. And totally no worries. Soak up all the quality time with the fam. I'm sure they appreciate it. Hopefully we can make it work to hang again before I'm off. 11 p.m. on a Monday night. One day later. Hey, how are you? You're leaving the 14th, correct? Was dealing with something the last couple days, but the universe sent me

a few magical humans to help me solve it today, so now I'm great. How about you? And yes, I leave the 14th. What the hell are y'all doing up so late? It's 2.30 in the morning and y'all texting like this. Sorry. The caveat I sent with the email was that I'm

abroad right now. And so those screenshots are five hours later than they should be. Oh. I was like, damn. Go to bed. Go to bed. Yeah, what? Okay.

I'll stop referencing times then. Here we go. I thought he was sending some freaky text. Alright. on a Monday. Go to bed. I was about to say, yeah, what? Okay. I will stop referencing times then. Here we go. I thought he was sending some freaky texts. All right, here we go. Sweet. My day was cool enough. A little restless, whatever. Is there any times you're free this week?

Tomorrow would be ideal and Wednesday could potentially work. No response. A couple hours later. Let me know what you're thinking. That was actually the following day. Oh, so it was. The timestamps are messing it up for you. But what you just read was all on Monday evening after work.

And then Tuesday afternoon is when I followed up. Gotcha. Okay. Hi. After work today, I found out I had a death in the family. I'll have to see you when you're back. My emotional state is I don't even know how to put it. Know what I mean?

It's unearthing a lot of suppressed things. Other than that, I'm great and had a great day and positive vibes and peace signs and smiles, et cetera, et cetera. I'm very happy to have met you. You're an inspiration and I'm happy to have you in my life. Okay. Keep going. All right. I'm so sorry for your loss. Let's just see where we're both at when I get back I've been really enjoying getting to know you though If i'm being completely honest the last few days have felt pretty off when you text me something like that I'm, not really sure what to say those messages rightly or wrongly don't come across like they're about your family situations

I haven't felt any genuine interest or intention from you in a bit. So we're probably just looking for different things. All good. Enjoy your trip. Hit me when you're back. And thank you. He doesn't say and. Just an and. And thank you. And then he sends you a video of fireworks, random 10 minute fireworks show in front of my spot. When did he send that? Like a day later. That was a day later. Yeah, that was Wednesday night at like 930 p.pm. And I never replied to it because I don't think he realized. But when I watched the video of the fireworks, it was taken from his apartment. I know I've been there. I've seen that view. And there was a girl talking to him in the background sound. And this is like 9.30pm when he said his emotional state is I don't know, and he can't see me and he can't have a plan. And then also his sister who's not an influencer,

doesn't make money from Instagram, just a normal person posted something on her Instagram that week of like her going out and the caption was something about it being like the best week and so it felt a bit odd that one sibling is in such a terrible emotional state and the other one is like having their best week yeah that's so here's the apology text kind of weird

how long were these this was 10 months later 10 months later 10 months later yeah I didn't reply so you didn't respond to the fireworks when you're back and yeah no he self-incriminated himself what an idiot uh anyways here we are uh hey i'm sorry i apologize if i ever hurt you in any way and i find it unfortunate things ended the way they did for a long time i've had a lot of people around me that unbeknownst to me didn't have my best interest at heart a lot of people around me that unbeknownst to me didn't have my best interest at heart. A lot of people consciously trying to cloud my judgment and bring shit into my life with

a smile on their face. I'm not without fault, but I only owe an apology to myself and a handful of people and you're one of them. I was working through some things during my time with you and I recall you had also had some pretty traumatic experiences you were working through as well. I've always believed that our hearts defense mechanisms quickly arose and played a game of ping pong with each other. And that was it.

Despite the good things we had going on, which has a biting lip emoji. I have to throw in there. I hope that your time with me provided some type of healing and I hope these words do the same. God bless you and your family, man. It feels good to do this. Not that pat on his back words do the same. God bless you and your family. Man, it feels good to do this.

Not that pat on his back after sending the text. He complimented himself to you in a I'm sorry apology all while reminding you that you guys had kinky sex. Yeah, pretty much. So how do you feel? I mean, I'm confused because that last week, I mean, confusion is clarity. I just took it as he lost interest or something happened. I don't know, but it was just such a drastic change in the way that he was acting. I wouldn't have dated somebody for two and a half months that talked like this, reacted like this. And so I, I mean, all guys are boomerangs. They always come back. They always make a return attempt. But I don't think I was expecting this one. So what do you like this? What do you want to do? Like, I guess what made you I mean, as always, thank you. But what made you want to call in and get our advice? I wanted your take on what happened.

You're really blunt and I appreciate that. And then I did reply like two weeks later, just a short blurb. I think I sent it in as well. And he read it instantly. As soon as it delivered, it was read and then he hearted it. And so I wasn't sure if he reached out because he was trying to make another attempt or if he was just bored. His little bitey face through me. Yeah.

Or if it was an actual genuine attempt at an apology. I'm not sure. I would just love your take. Well, you wrote, I thought we had something good going. So you wrote, hey, I appreciate you saying this. I'm sorry you experienced that in your friendships. And for whatever fallout that may have had on us, I agree. It was disappointing how things ended the way they did.

I thought we had something good going. It was nice to hear from you. I hope you're doing well. Yeah, a heart message is not open-ended because you specifically said i thought we had something good going which if he was like pining for some sort of reconciliation you certainly gave him a window he could have replied yeah i fucked up i thought we did too again i'm sorry which could have given you an opportunity you know to say well you know let's talk about it but he didn't really do that.

It's a very confusing response. Yeah, it is a confusing response. He said those things in his very long message that Tyler just read. And I reciprocated them in my message. Yeah. Well, I guess the question is, obviously, you're investing some emotional energy into this and you're wondering why. We're all confused. It is very confusing. And it sounds to me like, ideally, not that you need him to give you answers or to give you closure to move on. It sounds like you would like answers if you could get them. Yeah, if I could get answers, I would like them.

Don't do it. I don't need them, but I would like them. Taylor, you don't want those answers. It's not worth your time i get so mad at my friend my girlfriend's back at home like my good friends because they're always trying to pull answers out or you guys got to get so much better at closing the door and being done with it if he wanted to spend time with you and make those days happen with you he would have he wouldn't have been with that girl in the video you know i think like we're all trying to find a reasoning or an excuse but all you're going to get

is excuses and bad answers. And you're never going to get the 100% honest truth. You seem like an amazing girl. You have a great job. You get to travel, do cool things. You're going to meet amazing people all the time. Get good at shutting the door on people because you should have shut the door on this guy last October.

I'm a guy. I've seen my friends do this. I've done this. You know what I mean? And I've seen my friends do this. I've done this. You know what I mean? And I see my girlfriends go through this. Guys are going to carry things out as long as they can because maybe the sex is fun or casual or good or whatever. And they're going to have that on the side. And that's all... I mean, there's no real commitment I feel like here because he's able to say, oh yeah, I want to hang out with you. And then I can't. I want to hang out with you. And I can't. You know what I mean? He's not giving you any reason. I think you are going to get so much better

at closing the door on people because of this experience. If you just start closing like, nope, that's not good. That's not right. Close the door, close the door, close the door and be upfront. You know, like this is off. It ain't right. I'm good, you know?

And it'll get you to where you want to go quicker instead of lingering on this guy who I think sucks. Damn, mic drop. It's hard to argue with what Tyler just said. But the better you get at closing the door on people and moving on to the next one, is the quicker you're going to find the right one. You won't waste so much emotional distress or time. It sucks waiting for that text back.

It sucks sending a nice text and then hoping to get something. You sent a beautiful, a really nice response. Like you said, like, you know, left the door open. He still just gave you a heart, you know?

Also, he outed himself by saying, uh, damn, that felt good. And by outing himself, I mean, he wrote that message for himself,

not for you. You know how to lays it down. Go find the next man. You'll be all right. Yeah. I mean, to tyler's point if he if this was a guy who woke up one day and was like fuck i can't believe i let this person go i gotta do whatever i can to like try to follow up and get this great thing that we had back going this is not it you know what i'm saying like he could be doing so much more and the fact that he is doing this for himself

again you know has maybe nothing to do with missing whatever you guys had other than hearing from you that you know everyone likes to be missed so said, yeah, we had a good thing going, that probably felt good for him. That's probably what he read. But it's also him not proving to you that he would do anything to show you how much he fucked up or regretted it. I think guys also do this a lot too. If an old relationship happened and it's been a year or whatever. They'll send a random text like, hey, thinking about you, like hope you're well,

like miss you, blah, blah, blah. That text ain't for you. That's for them. That's for that guy to try and get a response and maybe muster something up. Just to see a quickie reply or how much you might miss it. See if he still has it.

Yeah, like that text ain't for you. I mean, multiple times he said, this is, you know, feels good for me. If I was writing an apology to somebody, I would never multiple times he said this is you know it feels good for like i would if i was writing an apology to somebody i would never include myself in an apology you know or a lip biting emoji yeah like ain't like the blowing air out emoji like that's what he said like yeah that was weird like i i i think you got a tool on your hands but no i i really think when guys send those like year later texts it's

only for the guys never for the girl yeah i agree i've gotten plenty of those i've needed a lot of people a lot of guys missing you that's good very good at cutting people off and i've gotten a lot of those boomerang texts of that due to making that return i think i've never gotten one quite like this um and i think yeah i don't like this behavior the behavior of that last week i think it was just such a sharp difference that was the confusing part for me yeah that that sucks right and it can it can fuck with us and your gut's always right yeah i think he eventually showed his true colors. And the true colors you don't like. So might as well just be done with it.

If he texts you again, I don't feel like it needs a response. And as a bummer as it is, you know, because I know you mentioned, like, it was the best two and a half months that I've had. And, like, unfortunately, anyone can fake it for a couple months. So, unfortunately, there's no follow-up, I feel like. Did we give you an answer that you really wanted? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just looking for your thoughts. I wasn't necessarily set on sending another message

or talking to him. Maybe just block him on your phone now. Kind of to Tyler's point, you know, just really shut it down. Shut that door. Keep him blocked forever, too. I can do i can do that yeah no i do the nick move of block them and then delete their contact you gotta that's you gotta delete their contact after they block because then you just have a list of numbers you have no idea who they are yeah just i think if we finally erase this guy from your memory

and sounds good you can go on a high note knowing that he you know did think of you and your ego can be super happy about it and facts and there we go amazing thank you all right well where are you calling from um i'm in england right now nice i have another question for you in regards to dating abroad shoot if you don't mind i'm i move locations quite a bit i've been traveling for a little while now and i i find it a little hard to date anyone in kind of a serious way like everyone just assumes it's going to be like a one date thing sure oh because you are abroad? Because I'm abroad, but I have very flexible plans. So I've stayed in places longer. More than the average guy, they find out you're traveling abroad,

and they just assume that you're there to hook up just because it's... Yeah. Yeah, totally. I think you need to withhold some information. I think you need to... Don't let these people know how long you're there or how long you're working there. I work here. I work in England full time.

They don't need to know shit else. And then if it gets serious, then you can tell, you know, oh, I might have to move here, relocate the job, just had to do a curveball at me, you know? Are you recommending I lie? You start things off with a lie? How long are you in England for?

I've been here for a month. I'm here for at least another month yeah that's full time that is living i don't think you need to tell any of these guys before you go on a date when are when when are you telling these guys well it's in my dating profiles okay yeah so at the tiler's point yeah take that out okay yeah and then don't be giving any unnecessary information about yourself via like text messages on dating apps at the moment when guys are trying to get to know you be like and if you want to meet them if you're interested then be like i love to have this conversation in person like over a cup of coffee let's get together but yeah i think i agree with tyler you take it out of your bio you don't need to offer that information up so that's kind of an easy win you can do y'all were all laughing at me a minute ago now y'all are nodding your heads yes because nick said it

that's that's cool that's so different i guess if it comes up on the first date don't lie i was born here i lived here forever well just just be like you don't have to say how long you're working there for just be like yeah i'm here and to say how long you're working there for. Just be like, yeah, I'm here. But it's going to come up. So on the first date, they find out, you're like, yeah, I've been working abroad. I'm traveling. They're like, oh, how long are you here for?

And maybe I'm assuming the questions come up or like, well, like, do the guys ever ask you like, what are like, not that I'm sure they don't say what's your intentions for dating, but do they ask you like some version of that like why are we out on a date or they do they inquire as to what your goals are when you date so it's usually a joke about if i'm looking for citizenship in the country i'll be like what are you looking for here like citizenship i'm like if you get me an eu passport i'm all for it okay but at some point do you tell these guys that like hey i'm like i'm honestly just looking for mr right or like what and what are your intentions i am open to a relationship but i'm not in a rush okay i think just take it out of your bio take

it out of your bio and if they ask you so you're here for the next year oh my god next year did you say yes yes if a girl if a girl told me she's here for the next three weeks i'm like well she's ain't here for a long time she's here for a good time you know what i mean because like you're a dog what you're a dog i'm a guy he's a guy yeah like i'm just telling you how guys i think if you tell me oh i'm only i'm going on a random date with this girl i've been on a dating app and we're only and then you tell me oh i'm only gonna be here for three more weeks i'm like well she's on here she's out dating because she wants to have you know i'm thinking in my head that you know what i mean i'm insinuating in my head and so that's why these guys are like oh i'm gonna love bomb you and try and hook up and have fun and then i know in about

three weeks i can wet my hands clean with you. You know? Damn. Guys are terrible. Terrible. Terrible. But at least we have Tyler and Nick here to be honest with us. That's true. That's true. Especially, I hear European guys are way, way worse than Americans. Americans, especially South Floridians, much more gentleman-like.

Maybe you should take a trip to Jupiter. You should. It's out of this world, baby. Maybe stop in, what's the name of that restaurant that you just opened a trip to Jupiter. You should. It's out of this world, baby. Maybe stop in... What's the name of that restaurant that you just opened? Three Natives. Three Natives. Maybe stop in Three Natives, get an acai bowl.

Get you a smoothie bowl, girl. Smoothie bowl. I love a smoothie bowl. Do you got pitaya too? We got pitaya. Damn. We got everything you need. Damn.

We know where she's going. She's coming back from Europe early. I'm booking my flight right now. Yeah. I think just go have some fun. Date. Okay. And lie.

Don't lie. Don't lie. Thank you. But just, I don't know. Lies of omission. You're playing poker. Hold some of your cards back. I was always terrible at that game.

Well, it's something to improve on. I do think the fact that you are dating abroad makes it low stakes and i think you can try if like honestly it's a great time to just kind of fuck around and find out in the sense right like you may be dating like intentionally and hope that you meet the right person but the fact you are abroad and you are moving does make it more challenging. That's just a fact, right? And it does give both people an out. So why don't you just try different approaches to dating and try different things or ask different questions and see if anything sticks that you like, you know? Like, there's no perfect way to dating.

And I do think we get stuck in a rut and just like everything else, we kind of say the same things and have the same conversations and have the same talking points and get the same drinks and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why don't you just mix it up and try different approaches? You get to reinvent yourself everywhere you go because no one knows you. You have nothing to lose. Give us an update. Give us an update.

Yeah. Circle back. Well, Dan. Come visit Jupiter. Yeah. We want dating escapades of Taylor. Yes. Date around the world, baby. Oh, Dan. All Well, damn. Come visit Jupiter. Yeah. We want dating escapades of Taylor. Yes. Date around the world, baby.

All right, Taylor. Thanks for calling. Keep us updated. Thanks. All right. All right. Bye-bye. Bye.

Love you. Bye. Tyler, it's been great. Those are thrilling. Thrilling. Those are fun. You can come back anytime and do an Ask Nick episode. We'll just take calls. Yes, do it. Let's ask nick some shit oh man thanks for coming so much fun

love you guys thanks even you nat i'll follow you i'm sorry i don't really want it i think i'll unfollow you i'm not really interested anymore you dm me okay okay Let's clear that up. No. She's letting my ideas in. Nick, they were filming and Tyler was posting on his story. And I was like, oh my God, I know Tyler's there. I need to ask him like, is Nick okay? Is he like good? And it was just, he had just paid somebody to post on his account. But I just needed to know if Nick was, I was down bad.

I needed to know if Nick was okay. Well, I still love you, Tyler. Love you too, brother. Where can people follow you? All that fun stuff. What can you promote? What can I promote? Well, we have a show

coming out on September 25th called Special Forces. I don't know if we touched on it. It was tough. It was hard. That'll be good.

That'll be good. That's all I can talk about right now. Follow Tyler. All that fun stuff. You want to shout out your restaurants? If you're in Jupiter, go to 10. If you're in South Florida area, come check me out at Three Natives. If I'm not there, my poster's on the wall there. Take a picture.

Next best thing. There's a cutout. No, but we just opened up in Delray Beach, West Palm Beach, Boca Raton, Jupiter. Support Tyler's restaurants. Actually, it's part of your cause. Support Tyler's restaurants. Oh, actually, I know what I can talk about. I have my gala, October 26th.

Would love for you guys to be there. What is it? So I started a foundation out of my mom. And we give out full scholarships to students that are in need right now in the South Florida area. And we want to keep growing. Our first year was two students. This year, we did five. Next year, we want to hopefully double that again. But it's a huge night, tons of fun. It'll be a big boat weekend afterwards. That's why I tried seven

months. We're going to be on the boat all weekend afterwards, guys. So you'll get your full money's worth of South Florida. But incredible night, incredible cause. We're doing such great things with the foundation. It's called the Andresi Camera Foundation. We got seven students right now, hoping to double that. We started a mentorship program at Jupiter High School where we go in and we work with the leadership program of Jupiter, the student government, and we help them with all their initiatives. And right now, we're building out a closet for them and stocking it with just everything you need, toiletries, deodorants, sprays, toothbrush, clothes for kids in need and whatnot.

So just trying to find ways to help our community and make it better. And I'm a big believer if you want to make a change, you got to start where you're at in your little community and that little thing will trickle and trickle and trickle and get bigger, bigger, bigger. So if you can't make it, donate to the foundation and every dollar helps, whether it's a dollar or a hundred dollars. How can you donate? Go to the website.

It's in my bio, my Instagram. But yeah, it's my favorite thing in the world, helping kids get to where they want to go in life. And dedicated to your mom. And dedicated to my mom. We love that. Beautiful. We'll be there. Awesome.

When is it? October 26th. Okay. Make it work. Yeah, maybe we can watch an episode together. Yeah. We should do an episode recap yeah we should do episode recap oh my god that's

the day after oh no well the weekend it'd be like Thursday Friday Saturday you have to stay in Jupiter a long

time with me guys but uh maybe that Monday we can shoot it all right man love ya love you guys send in those

questions at asknickettothevilefiles.com we definitely played Wake Forest I knew it let me see I knew it it was in see. I knew it. It was in 1982, but I knew it.

That was the last matchup. I know that I recognize that name. On that note, guys, I'm out. Bye. Wait, I think we won, too. Let me pull it back up.