The Viall Files - E687 Reality Recap - Gypsy Rose Released, Airport Meltdowns, and Housewives Only Fans with Ciara Robinson

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! Today we are joined by Ciara Robinson to talk about all things reality TV. First, we talk about a viral video of two men getting delayed at the airport and needing to get home “for the girls.” Then, we talk about Gypsy Rose being released from prison and what we hope to see from her in her new chapter of life. Then, we talk about Housewives rumors, feuds, and Only Fans accounts. We then get the breaking news of Rachel Lindsay and Bryan Abasolo’s divorce. We finish up by talking Vanderpump Rules, our power rankings of the cast and how we feel about Scheana’s response to Scandoval.  “Imagine being her and not giving a f*ck.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Quince - Upgrade your closet with Quince. Go to https://www.Quince.com/viall for free shipping and 365-day returns on your order. Hinge - Manifest the dating experience you want this year - Download Hinge and find someone worth deleting the app for. MeUndies - Knock out your holiday shopping today and get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping, at https://www.MeUndies.com/VIALL  Vessi Footwear - If you have a trip coming up and need the perfect travel shoe, head to https://www.vessi.com/VIALL and get yourself a pair today. SKIMS - The Fits Everybody collection and more perfect-fit essentials are available now at https://www.SKIMS.com Plus, get free shipping on orders over seventy five dollars! Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @ciaracrobinson @nnataliejjoy @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell 

what's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the vow Fowls Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, joined with me by the household, our pop culture correspondent, and my lovely fiance, Nellie Joy, and our special guest for today, the one, the only, Ciaro Robinson! Oh my god, you sound like you're like announcing a fight. I got a little sweaty. Do we not like this? We got to hype up our guests. I'm hyped. What is that?

No, what do they say in the ring? The announcer? Yeah. Let's get ready to rumble. That's what you sound like. There we go. If you're wearing headphones, I'm so sorry. He's yelling in your ear.

He gets paid a million dollars every time he says that. A million dollars every time? Last time I checked. Maybe it's more now. His brother also. Who is, do we know? What's his name? Ellie?

Justin? Can we look it up? The guy who says, let's get ready to rumble? Yeah. Is it trademarked? Yeah, he trademarked it. Michael Buffer? And does he have a brother, I think, who does it too?

Really handsome guy. He looks like he should be like a soap opera actor or like a Bond villain. Yeah, he's 79. Yeah. And he makes a million dollars every time someone says let's get ready to rumble. I think something like that.

That's crazy. Or he says it. I don't know. Well, so there's Michael Buffer and then his brother Bruce Buffer. Bruce Buffer. Bruce is 66.

He's a spring chicken. Yeah. Oh, okay, Bruce. Are we allowed to say let's get ready to rumble? Maybe not. I think he might Venmo request you. Oh, shit.

We'll cut it off. Like bleep it. Let's get ready to bleep. What did Travis Kelsey trademark? All right. What was it? All right now. All right now.

Did he trademark that? Should I trademark yuck? Maybe. Yeah, man. Sierra, how are you? I'm so good. Sierra and I and Natalie, we've all been friends for some time now. And last time I ran into Sierra was at a little event hosted by Wells Adams.

Facts. Joe Amabile. Joe Amabile. And we were there. And we started talking Bravo and some housewives and pop culture and 30 minutes later I was like I have to go find my fiance because Sierra and I got into it

and by into it we were just like rifting about our takes and I was like we gotta get Sierra on the show. I mean we started in a group and the next thing you know it's just me and Nick talking we've got Vanderpump Rules we hit all of the topics. And then we were like, oh, wait, everyone else had walked away from y'all. There's a party happening.

I was really enthralled with Sierra's take. So I'm happy to have you share them with our audience. Okay, my head is spinning because there's just so much going on here at The Vile Files. First of all, Happy New Year, everybody. Happy New Year. I hope your 2024 is off to a great start. Ours is. This show is about to go to new heights.

New heights. I'm so excited. And not to steal. We're not going to go. We're not getting sued today. Did they trademark that fucking too? We're go to new mountains new mountains we're gonna go to new mountains uh we got some amazing interviews lined up for you all it's going to be i don't think anyone is prepared or ready or i just this month is going to be insane Insane. Insane. Iconic. And iconic.

And insane. So insane that next week, scheduling note, next week, Monday, ASNIC is being moved to Tuesday. Oh my gosh. Because we have a special Going Deeper on Monday. And that's all we're going to say right now. And then we have another Going Deeper, another epic Going Deeper on Thursday thursday next week to cancel all of your plans for next week hold on your butts it's gonna get wild yeah like just stay home and listen to the vows yeah it's just gonna be incredible and that's and that's us getting started in january i mean it's so exciting

how do you feel about our lineup i'm thrilled i. I can't say a word, but I am so thrilled. I know what I'm doing all month. Spending time with these two. Near, far. Before we get anything else, we do have some sad news. Yeah, some sadness. You may have noticed that Amanda is not on the show. She hasn't been for a couple weeks.

that Amanda is not on the show. She hasn't been for a couple weeks. Amanda recently was given an opportunity to bet on herself on a new project. And so she decided to pursue that opportunity and has left the Vile Files. But we wish her the absolute best of luck in life. And we love her. And we love Amanda.

And we are sad to see her go. But as is always, the household continues to change and grow. We have what Leah started today. How many new members we have? Oh, by the way. Hi, Justin. Hello.

I'm here. I'm hiding in the background in the shadows. There's a big team behind Vile Files that a lot of y'all don't even know about. But it is constantly changing and just growing. And it's crazy here. Yeah. It's a new year. Expansion.

New household. New-ish household. I mean, Justin, I mean, Allie, Allie. Allie.

She's like, she's like herpy. No, I'm just kidding. Which honestly is like underrated. Which honestly is like the best. if you could have any of them because you can't die from it and you know it's with you always no ally ally is uh my og she's been with me for the longest uh tenured household member no truly anything you want to say for yourself? Can I get like a jacket or something? Yeah.

Sure. Can we make you a jacket? We can make you a jacket. Yeah. Any special requests? It needs to be decorated like the military. It needs like the patches. Yeah.

I've never was like athletic so I'll take like the letterman jacket. Well, I hate to like add something to your plate but you are in charge of merch so if you want to make your own jacket.

So, sorry. jacket. Well, I hate to add something to your plate, but you are in charge of merch. So if you want to make your own jacket. Sorry. I hate to add that to it, but if you want it. Do you want to make yourself a Leatherman jacket, Allie? Sure. I'll get right on that. Sierra, what was the most fascinating story that captivated your hearts

over the holiday break fascinating story that cap okay um i would probably say am i leading in too much with the with the two men that got stuck at the airport oh no we can start there can we start there yeah what were their names one was justin his name was dustin with a d i got that mixed up i thought it was my twin i don't know if you guys saw this but it was it went viral over the internet and it probably only went viral because nick watched it so many times so hilarious can we play it can we it's it's it's a what seems to be a lovely couple. They were wearing matching striped sweaters. Dustin.

Do we know their names? Dustin and his husband, Anthony. Okay. Dustin and Anthony were at an airport at an American airline counter. First mistake. Yeah, that was their first mistake. But yeah, let's just play it. Remember your girls.

You don't care about the girls. You don't care about the girls. You don't care about the girls. You don't care about the girls. You don't care about the girls. Hello, everybody. Dustin. American Airlines.

Fuck the Stover. All right. Here we go. Here we go. I'm not kidding. Don't fuck me more. You don't care about the girls. And then he tries to like, there's this lovely lady who seems to be in a wheelchair With her service dog And then He tries to like

Confide in her Reason with her Yeah Yeah Fuck off bitch Fuck off bitch Sweeping the nation I will say if you pay attention

There's like little girls That are having having the best time of their lives. Yeah, there's these kids in the audience, just like, jaws dropped. In the audience. I know, like, it's a Broadway show. But you know why I was captivated by this video? It's not because of the charmingness of the couple or their matching sweaters or the fuck you bitch.

It's that, honestly, like, I get it. The closest I've ever gotten to like losing my mind and in life actually just you know doing things i regret is at the airport like i've never been closer to just absolutely losing my shit than at the airport there's something about like when you're traveling and you have to go home, the stakes are already raised. And then for whatever reason, the employees, most of them, God love them, are wonderful and helpful. And they empathize with your plight of just wanting to get home. But like, I'd say like one out of 10, you find some sort of person on the counter who doesn't give a fuck, who hates you, who takes pride in your misfortune. And there is something about that kind of energy that makes you just want to fucking lose it when the person behind the counter doesn't give you the, how can we help? But like, sorry, I don't give a shit. Uh, and there's nothing you can do. And that feeling of helplessness is like,

it will make you lose your fucking mind and i really honestly to dustin it was a dustin who lost his mind yeah i understand you thank you for speaking for all of us by the way who are the girls are they dogs can i say that yeah literally i'm that entire time i watched that video like 10 times because i was trying to figure out who they were talking about because he kept saying remember the girls remember the girls and i was like who are these girls and then come to find out it's like they're two huskies or something yeah it's like two it's two puppy dogs but he's like by name what is it shelby and dominic dolly dolly dolly like dolly parton really shelby and dolly i don't know my ears were definitely hearing dominic i heard the same thing but truly it was just like who are the girls and then it was

like nope it's their dogs and i was like i actually understand that more so yeah if that makes sense i respect i'm like if i'm on my last leg and i'm just ready to go home and cuddle with my dog like nothing is stopping me what's funny about that he's saying remember the girls as as if like don't lose your shit because this is going to embarrass your daughters like they're like it'll be on the internet they're gonna see this like you know like you're you're remember the girls and to meanwhile you find out it's two dogs who aren't gonna have any concept have don't know not they're not gonna notice at all was not expecting you back right at 8 p.m but like thank you thank you for the entertainment Has American Airlines issued any type of apology or said anything?

And honestly, it's not shocking that it's American. What's your least favorite airline? American. Out of like American United and Delta, like the main three, Delta is by far my favorite. Agreed. And American, I just see so many horror stories and even like people who have flown with them for like decades, like where I'm like most airlines take care of you after a while of just being loyal to them. And like even today, I watched a TikTok where they got stranded.

They had to get on a flight from Seattle. And they said if they went to Dallas, Fort Worth, that they would give them a hotel overnight. The people got to Dallas and the person at the front was like, sorry, nope. And they show the suited man driving off in a golf cart and being like, no, one's going to help us. I'm here with my granddaughter. There's 15 people waiting at the American airlines station.

And then they got security involved to remove the grandfather that was filming. Yeah. And like, did not get any of them hotels. And I was just like, I left them stranded in Dallas, left them stranded in Dallas.

Like, and they agreed to go from Seattleattle to uh dallas because of the hotel so i'm just like wow well why would you agree to that i just i don't agree with anything like when they're just like hey we'll give you a voucher hey and it's like you can never trust any of them because they're like you trust the one that you talk to and then you get to a place where they're like just tell them that i sent you and then you get to them and they're're like, just tell them that I sent you. And then you get to them and they're like, I don't know who that is. And like, I don't know.

We don't do that. Yeah, we don't do that. And it's like, well, they told me that. And I just walked 45 minutes to get here. Sorry. Wasn't me. There is no worse experience than airport problems. You know what is also a worse experience?

Getting someone a gift that they hate. Yeah. Did this happen recently? it happens actually a lot with nick um so i guess we'll start out strong um i obviously he's a massive fan of the packers right so i was like oh my god anything packer he'll like die over so i got him this packer championship shirt. Okay. This was a long time ago. But this was the first incident that I was like, oh, no. And I gave him the shirt and it was. It was a Super Bowl that they lost.

Oh, you did not know that. No. But also they made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Sure. Is that a regular thing? I'm not a sports girl. She gave it to me and I go, they lost this game.

So I was like, okay, perfect. We'll never do this again. We're at Wells and Sarah's house. I can just see the high and just the low. We're at Wells and Sarah's house and you know they have that lettuce grow? Yes. And Nick was like, oh my God, this is the coolest thing ever. Like, this is so amazing.

He hyped it up. He kept looking at it. He kept like touching things on it. And I was like, I'm going to get him that for Christmas. Got him it for Christmas. Hasn't opened it. Oh,

well, it's actually like, he never built it. It's on the side of our house in pieces. And, and just like was never put together. Things got like chewed up by the dog and then rained on and then like completely ruined. That's my bad.

That was on me. What do you have to say for yourself? I, uh, i get a lot of things done but i don't want to put anything together okay okay so how did christmas this year go wonderful wonderful oh my god like loved everything uh natalie but some of my presents turned out to be for Natalie. Oh, like we share benefits, the house benefits. There was like a pullover that like, that I bought for him. Cause like,

he'd look so cute in this. And then as soon as he opened it, he was like, I don't wear pullovers. And I was like, okay, perfect. Natalie's version of what happens.

It's like gifting the Grinch over here. Just like, literally, literally. That's not how it sounds. That's what she hears I mean oh

she's like the silence is loud I will say that like I think my facial expressions say a lot yeah and I think Natalie

in her head will like look at my face and then here I don't wear pullovers she goes he hates this the most so then of course I was like well I bought it because I thought this the most So then of course I was like

Well I bought it Because I thought You would look so cute in it I loved it So I'll keep it Gorgeous And now he

Every time I wear it He's mad He's like I thought we were Going to return that Now you're wearing it Again That's not how it went

He said Where's the gift receipt Oh You removed the tags Oh perfect Tags are off Honestly That's how it more sounded like. I bet.

I bet. And I can understand why in her head it sounded. Oh, okay. So you're keeping it. Yeah. Go fuck yourself. Did you like your presents? Oh my gosh.

Loved. I make it so easy. I send Nick screenshots and links and like literally the easiest. I walk in. I'm like, can I have this? I like, I'd even do like stocking stuff for ideas and it's like screenshots. I need to do this. Because honestly, I think next year

I might not do that. Why? That's on you. See how well you know me. What would you do? I will buy you things that you won't like. And you will actually say that. Would you do that on purpose? No, of course not but you know you better than me

that's true yeah what was your favorite gift my favorite gift well gosh i loved all of them honestly um He really spoiled me this year. Yeah. He really did. Because I sent him like three really expensive, a Goyard bag, St. Laurent loafers, and Celine sunglasses. And it was kind of like a pick one, like these are three big gifts, you know, whatever. But daddy went to Vegas and won. Daddy? Oh, shit. That was a straight face.

Oh, shit. That was a straight face. Oh, shit. That was a straight face. Oh, my God. Could y'all clear the room for a second? Yeah. Yeah, he went to Vegas and he got a little lucky

at the blackjack table. I was like, you know what? I'm going to spend this on my girl. And he also got himself a Burberry suit. Don't let him fool you. Yeah, I did.

I did. I did. I mean. So I loved all of them. And then he left my car door unlocked and someone broke in and stole the shoes. So.

Got the shoes again. He did. He did. He bought them because it was his fault. He went. No. I didn't unlock the door.

This is how this happened. So I've lost four pairs of sunglasses in bulk, which is like not like me. I don't unlock it. This is how this happened. So I've lost four pairs of sunglasses in bulk, which is like not like me. I don't lose stuff like that, like expensive things. I really, you know, I've been poor for most of my life, so I don't lose expensive things. Right. And all of a sudden I'm like, where are all of these sunglasses? Like, it's got to be pregnancy brain or like cindy is putting them

somewhere something's going on so nick takes my car to the grocery store one night comes home cook dinner we go to bed wakes up he has to move my car out of the driveway so he can back out okay and he comes inside he's like good news bad news i found your sunglasses and it's two cheap ones that are in my center console i'm like that's definitely not them but um thanks anyways what's the bad news he's like someone broke into your car you've got to lock your car babe and i was like you took my car last night and you didn't lock he's like oh well sorry and then i started thinking i was like oh my god those saint Saint Laurent shoes I was gonna like exchange for eight and a half I was gonna go try so I like had him in my trunk to take to Beverly Hills no and I

went and opened up my trunk and it was just empty and I was like no and I immediately start sobbing and Nick's like they didn't take anything like invaluable like we can like nothing we can't replace yeah like don't you know they didn't like kill anyone. They need it more than we do. I will say to have, and so I watched it back on the camera and like seeing someone in your car, in your, just like, it's so violating. It's so scary and creepy. And that whole next day, like I couldn't go into my car. I was so shook. I already struggle with intruder syndrome, which I don't know if that's the correct term

for it, but I constantly feel like someone's going to break in. No which I don't know if that's the correct term for it, but I constantly feel like someone's going to break in. No, I think that's, and also with having a baby too, I think the mama mode comes in and it's just like, everybody wants my baby. Everyone wants to get in my house and take my stuff.

Yeah, so I feel like I'm making the house Fort Knox. So if you're listening and you stole my shoes, I hope, I hope karma comes for Knox. So if you're listening and you stole my shoes, I hope, I hope karma comes for you. Everyone, Gypsy Rose is out of prison. Iconic.

Iconic. Congratulations to Gypsy Rose for finally being released. Have you been following this story? Not so much the release. I will say I did watch the documentary again recently. On HBO? Mm-hmm. And say i did watch the uh documentary again recently on hbo

and then did you watch the act yes yes yeah i'm like fully caught up big supporter she has a new documentary coming out this friday on lifetime and an ebook too right yeah uh i've seen clip it's of the documentary on Lifetime. A must watch. Crazy. It's from prison? Yeah, she was interviewed. It's like right before she has her parole hearing. Yeah, so like the 18 months prior to her parole hearing.

She was interviewed by, I believe, Lifetime. Did she get eight years and then was up for parole? She got 10 years and was up for parole after eight and a half. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's such a crazy story. She's doing it right.

She seems to be, yeah. And like, here are my thoughts so far on Gypsy Rose, is that she deserves the benefit of the doubt she does like this is a person whose whole life the ability to make decisions for themselves was stolen from her in every possible way from from being a young child and the abuse that she had to endure from her mother and obviously you know what happened to her mother you know was tragic but how could any of us put her try to put ourselves in gypsy shoes and know what we would do? Absolutely not. You know, and she has served her time in prison and now that she's out and in love and she seems to really be from everything I can tell a little bit, just from her posts and the

things that are out there, really putting her best foot forward to try to make the most. I mean, this is the first time in her life that she's truly free you know and think about it like being in prison for her on some level was a her leveling up and having freedom right the ability to make friends with people she was in prison with because she wasn't she wasn't even allowed to do that in her life prior to going to prison trying new foods you know like being able to consume whatever content she wanted without the fear of what her captor her mom could do i mean the feeding tube yeah it's such a tragic story so i was talking to my sister about it and it's kind of crazy how like if she would have asked anyone else to kill her mom, they probably would have been like,

babe, no, like, let's just go to the police. Like, let's come on. Let's think healthy. Let's go to the police.

We'll tell them everything. Like, we'll get you out. Don't worry. But she asked Nick go to John who struggled with personality disorder. And instead of that route, he took the like, yeah, sure, I'll kill her.

But if like she would have asked anyone else, you know? Do we even know that though? I mean, I guess if she found another person who struggled with like a dark side and, you know. I guess what I'm, you know, it's just like,

again, like Gypsy was in this kind of, she was in this darkness, this crazy world that it's not, you know what I'm saying? Like there's, I don't know. Didn't they meet on like a Christian dating site? Yeah.

I think that's the wildest part of it all. Right. Is that it's just like, there's so much compassion and so much love in that relationship. But then at the same time, it's like the idea that it went to murder, murder, you know, it is wild. It is wild. Cause it's like, there's just so many dynamics to it, to murder murder you know it's it is wild it is wild because it's like

there's just so many dynamics to it to where you're just like i could never put myself in her shoes because i'm like when you hear about munchausen's or munchausen's by proxy you're you're like it's it's so wild that it's like how would you actually like you wouldn't even know that it's happening to you while it's happening you know what i mean yeah so it's just like the idea that it's like it came to that where i'm like i get it i get it too i'm like i anybody will do anything for their freedom you know what i mean yeah and like we you can't even comprehend what it would be like to be in gypsy's shoes because all she knew was like the control her mom had, you know? And so to, to, for us, for anyone to suggest, oh, well, why didn't you do this?

Or you could have done or should have done this. Like, okay. Like, how do you know that? Like, how do you know how you would react knowing like her perception of the world was so different in terms of what her options were right you know and what she thought was again options to somehow secure her freedom right how could you even put yourself in her shoes i also think she tried a lot more than people think she did yeah like in a couple of the clips that i saw of lifetime she talked about how she did try to run away several times yeah

and people keep being like why wouldn't you just walk out the front door it's like she tried but obviously it's like it's a small town they found her you know her mom is crazy her mom was i mean seemed evil oh i'm also like imagine that too where it's like the people that are supposed to be or the person that's supposed to be taking the most care of you that you have that as a child you're ingrained to just believe is goodness and then to like slowly grow up and realize that like the person that you love the most that you believe loves you the most in the world is also the person that's hurting you yeah and benefiting off of it and that's truly for all the times that people often use the phrase trauma bonding people mostly use it incorrectly they think if it's you that people often use the phrase trauma bonding, people mostly use it incorrectly.

They think of it's, you know, people often nowadays refer to it as like two people bonding over, you know, both having trauma. Yeah. And that's not trauma bonding. Trauma bonding is what you saw when you watch the act or one of these documentaries, this bond that Gypsy had with her mom over the trauma that her mom put on her. That's what trauma bonding is. It's my understanding. Um, and knowing she can't leave.

Yeah. But that, and that's the thing. Gypsy truly loved her mom. Right. And there was a bond there because that was her only source of protection. What she thought, you know,

it's such a complicated, messy story. So I get nothing but empathy for Gypsy and wishing her absolutely nothing but the best. And again, so far, it's just like life is about choices and it's about learning from mistakes. And she was put in such a terrible situation. And so far, she seems to be trying to make the most of these new opportunities. She's in love. She's got her wonderful husband, Ryan, who in his have you seen his instagram bio not his instagram bio i've looked at pictures though it is uh

some might say what every man should be writing in their bio about their lady what it's like my name is ryan anderson i am from louisiana and i am married to the most beautiful wonderful loving funny amazing person gypsy Rose Blanchard. Period. Done. I showed it to Nick and I was like, get to fucking work. Making Connor an Instagram he knows nothing about. I wish up the ground she walks on Sierra Robinson.

So they're already like, you know. And she's got a nice rock on her finger. I saw and was like fresh out of prison. And she's got a nice rock on her finger. I saw. And was like fresh out of prison. And she was like hair done. And celebrating the holidays. Yeah. Like I'm excited to see where it goes. Unfortunately, though, she did get kicked out of the state of Missouri.

Did you see that? I did not. She was going to go. She bought tickets to go to the Kansas City Chiefs game. Chiefs versus, who did they play? Oh, Bengals. Beng bangles they beat the bangles anyway she bought tickets and hopes you know she's a big taylor swift fan obviously as we are right um and hopes that you know who knows she's shooting her shot she's a big fan maybe i'll get

to meet taylor taylor's going to be at the game and then like the day before it was announced that this her parole officer like called her up apparently you know and it's like hey you can't be in the state of missouri i don't know why and maybe have to do like maybe a security risk of some kind i mean she's a the entire state of missouri she had to leave so now she's in louisiana where her husband ryan is from and her staying there but she couldn't yeah her stepmom and her dad and her stepmom. Um, and then therefore she couldn't go to the game.

Unfortunately. Do we know what her, her connection to Missouri is? That's where her and her mom. So that's where it all happened. That's where it all happened. Yeah. That's where her mom moved to.

Yeah. Yeah. They were like, they were brought there after her. I have a tat for humanity. They built that house. Right. Okay.

So now the, yeah, maybe that's like her roots are in Louisiana. That's where they moved there from. Right. By Habitat for Humanity, they built that house. Right. Okay, so now, yeah, maybe that's... Like, her roots are in Louisiana. That's where they moved there from. Right. That's what I thought, but I was like, oh, maybe because of the bad publicity or something. I don't know. I don't know what bad publicity. I mean, like...

I feel like also parole officers, like, I want to keep my eyes on you, but this one's like, no, get out. Get down. I mean, there's so much that we're hope to learn from gypsy yeah you know what she's been up to like what has she been craving she left prison she had a 12 pack of dr pepper love girl who knows the soda as two soda fans nally and i yeah dr pepper is it honestly like coca-c and Dr. Pepper are probably my two faves.

Have you ever tried mixing them? Never. Nick's like a 10-year-old at the fountain station. He's like. No, no. Just the two. He's a chemist. If you're out there, Jitsi, try some. Go next time you're at like a McDonald's, fountain drinks, and they have a Dr. Pepper

and a McDonald's. Does McDonald's have Dr. Pepper? I don't know. Mr. Pibb. It's not quite the same as it. But mix that Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper half and half. Half and half. Okay.

Good to know. It's wild. I'll call you with updates. What do you think Gypsy missed the most? Honestly, I was about to say, what do you think Gypsy missed the most? She didn't know anything. Everything is new to her. Right.

It was like having life experiences. I mean, it's so crazy that so many things she's going to be trying for the very first time. I mean, I said, like, what do we think the first place she goes to after prison is? And we guessed McDonald's and she went to McDonald's. But it's like, yeah, of course you would. Iconic. I would love to take Gypsy out with Ryan, of course. Like a double date out in like a city and just like go to restaurant after restaurant and just like have her try things for the first time.

Experiences show her all of the sites. Yeah. Like, what do you want to see? What do you want to taste? Literally. To me, it's food that I would miss the most. Like just like if I were incarcerated or kept away from the things I enjoy. It's the foods I love. That's the things I would miss the most like just like if i were incarcerated or kept away from the things i enjoy it's the the foods i love that's the things i would miss the most and i think like celebrating

like holidays and things like i'm like you're not really stringing up lights in the in the cell you know what i mean like i'm like i would miss like traveling and like seeing friends but just doing normal everyday things i'm like to make friends exactly i wonder how she made some friends that's probably in prison too oh i'm sure but i'm like her journey's just starting you know and i think that's so exciting like it's like being a baby uh 20 something she's 32 she's 32 yeah dang that's crazy i couldn't imagine but i'm like i'm so like i i want to hear all about it you know what i mean like i want to like i i want to hear all about it you know what i mean like i want to know like where is the first place that you're excited to go to when

parole clears like i think yeah i wonder what her limit yeah another great question yeah her limits like what can or can she do is there like a place that she's always wanted to go overseas you know can she drink can she smoke weed like what is she oh i Can she smoke weed? Like, what does she... Oh, I doubt. Well, I... I don't know. I mean, yeah. I don't know. It's by state.

It's by state, so if it's legal, then she would be in the clear, but, like, yeah, she'd be smoking weed for the first time at 32. Wow. I mean, Nick didn't start

smoking weed until he was, like, 35. He won't... He continues to smoke, but in the middle of the night, he's like. Me here. And it's like 2 a.m. And I'm like, do you want something to drink?

He's like, no, I'm good. I'm like, take this water. He's like, no, I'll have a cough drop. And this is how Nick eats cough drops. Immediately choose it. I'm like, you know, that actually. That is a choice. In fact, doesn't work.

You have to suck on the cough drop to lozenge the throat. Gross story. I actually verped in my sleep last night. You what? Verped? What is that? Like a little vomit burp.

Oh my God. And it was weird. And then I like swallowed it and I went back to bed because like I didn't want to wake you up because the drink was on your side. Oh, you guys shared water for bed? We always share drinks.

We have a communal cup. Oh, my God. Even at dinner. Is that crazy? No, that's real love. I would be climbing over Connor's face being like, give me that. At when you have the dinner, you both make separate waters or separate drinks. When going at home. No home no no at home not

like not in public we're not crazy yeah we're not sharing a drink at like a restaurant but you guys share drinks at home yeah yeah no really it's it's two really yeah just a one big gulp yeah we use like a stanley cup and we just fill it with water and you guys go back and forth yeah no i mean i love connor with all my heart six years later. And like, I would never share. Yeah. I'm like, I'm a big beverage girl also. So it's like, and I don't like getting up to refill. So I'm like, all of my drinks right there.

He has his own. And then. Well, Nani doesn't like to refill either. Yeah. Nick is designated refill. Yeah. I don't really like getting anything for myself, to be completely honest. Neither do I.

Oh my God. Disgusting. Yeah. That's what you like getting anything for myself, to be completely honest. Neither do I. Oh, my God. Disgusting. Yeah. That's what you're here for. That's why we started sharing a big gulp. Because it was like, you know what? Why don't you just have some of mine, and then I will just keep filling mine. And that way it feels like I'm filling my glass and not our glass.

I love the, like, what's yours is mine. I think that's really sweet. I've never heard of that in my life. I don't know. I don't love the term verp. Did you just make that up? No. That's the thing.

You've never heard of a vomit burp? No. And I honestly don't. I wish I had. I wish I hadn't. I don't need the noises either. I'll be honest with you. And did you just like wake up and were like, that was weird.

Or were you like, I kind of choked on that. No, I was like, that was weird. What is, what is going on? And then I was like, that was weird. Or were you like, I kind of choked on that? No, I was like, that was weird. What is going on? And then I was like, let's go back to bed. Oh my gosh. And I was just asleep beside you this whole time? Yeah, I didn't want to bother you. I had the dogs surrounding me.

That's so sweet. I sleep in a dog sandwich now. Yeah. I am a hot dog. Aw. Every night. Literally. They're the buns.

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Oh, yeah. How Bravo just screws us over every year during the holidays, and it's the period of time when everybody's home, tired of dealing with like family, no longer have anything to do. And then you go and put on your Bravo show and it's just not there.

I saw a lot of people complain about that over the holidays. I complained on TikTok. I brought it to the talk and I was like, hey, Bravo, whoever is in charge of the programming here, why are we doing this? I'm like, this is the time that we all need this type of clarity this type of like drama

that has nothing to do with us. We've had family in town we've been cooking we've been shopping we've been running the rat race and now we finally have that period between after Christmas

and before New Year's where nobody expects anything from us and I can't watch a little SLC figure out why everybody hates Monica. How dare you?

I've been in Bermuda for three weeks. I'm over it. For three weeks and I still don't know why we hate Monica. Yeah, I've been in Bermuda for three weeks. I'm over it. For three weeks and I still don't know why we hate Monica. Yeah, we're still in Bermuda. They all hate Monica. She was actually my favorite housewife like new introduction, not gonna

lie. According to Rachel Lindsay, she's a one and done-er. Really? You think she's not coming back next season? That's what she thinks. That's what Rachel thinks. Rachel has seen basically every Bravo episode, not to take anything away from your expertise. Rachel, come at me. No, I'm just kidding.

But she was at BravoCon and said that the rest of the cast clearly refused to talk to her and speak with her. And like, how do you film a season unless you're Mary? Of course, obviously, she can go to McDonald's drive-thru. You can only have one kind of, this is my show and I'm going to do my own thing. You can't have Monica and Mary do that with the rest of the cast. And like, yeah. That's unfortunate.

I was like, I really liked her energy when she came in. I also thought she was going to like come on the show as like a Jen Shaw informant. So I thought we were just going to be like getting like random tidbits

of like what she learned while working for her. But then I'm also kind of like how interesting that it's like I didn't put two and two together, the red flags. And I'm like, you worked for Jen Shaw somehow ended up on this show and now you're just wreaking havoc. But like she was such like a real one when she came on, you know, the whole like, oh, I had to go buy a purse because I felt like I needed to keep up

with the Joneses, all of that. And then now with the whole putting Meredith in the DMs situation, like in throwing Meredith under the bus. And that's where I'm like, mm. Do you think she sent the DMs? I think Monica did. That's what everyone seems to be saying. I've heard also that she had a fake Instagram meme account or something.

I saw that. A Housewives meme account. And going in on them. Yeah. So it's like the backstory there, I'm like, mm. Monica kind of seems like a bad egg she is she is but she does a really great tv exactly she's great reality tv and she does a really good job of like kind of playing on your emotions but now it's like i i also feel like a crazy person

like second guessing everything but imagine being her and like truly not giving a fuck about doing some of these destructive things which started with like having the affair with her brother-in-law and every time she talks about it this season she like sheepishly says it and then laughs afterwards right like no accountability no and then like and then imagine like doing this or like around your kids and like prominently showcasing your children on this show all while like getting like involving yourself in the legal nefarious activity well because it's like also still their uncle right i would presume unless right what was the it was her husband's sister's husband yeah who's the brother-in-law so i

guess if the sister and him do we know if they divorced or if they're still together from that love to hear their side of the story um like especially if it's like in the mormon church too i wouldn't be surprised that they did not divorce but also didn't expect that outside variable was going to go on national television and be like by the way slept with yeah and like very and like that's what i'm saying so it's like in the beginning i saw that and i was like wow good for her because i'm like all these housewives go on doing like insider trading and embezzling money and whatnot and then they go on reality tv and be like i can't believe i got caught so i was like good for monica to put get ahead of it and be like hey by the way did some things in my past and then like now i'm like I don't trust anything that you see even the mom

stuff I'm like have you guys been watching the whole season yeah so it's like even the drama between like her and her mom who do you really believe now yeah I'm like they're both narcissists she paints her mom as like some sort of monster some sort of crazy well but her mom totally is a thousand percent but I'm like the apple doesn't fall far from

the tree so I'm also kind of like I don't think there's one person that's in the wrong and one person in the right here. Did you see the video her mom made? Yeah. I did not see this. She posted on TikTok or Instagram. And she basically was like talking about how, remember how Monica said she left me at like some family's house and moved to New York City. And it was basically her like trying to defend that.

And she was like, it wasn't some random family. They were our neighbors and Monica loved them. And she would always like hang out with them all the time. And so and it's like, I think you're still missing the point. She's like, I got a good job and I couldn't bring you with. And at that point, yeah. But she was like, you were fine. You loved that family. And I'm like, no child understands. Like, mommy's not coming back for a year or two. Yeah. Because she's trying to make a better life. And the thing, too, is that like New York didn't work out.

So it's also like you think she was there. I don't know how long she was there for. But it was like at the end of the day, it's like, oh, sorry, you have fun. And then I come back and be like, well, it didn't work. Didn't work out. Can't really provide a better life for you. But enjoy that trauma. Yeah, truly.

Who do we think is crazier, the mom or Monica? The mom. The mom. You think so? Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying. If we could get out of Bermuda and somebody could tell me what actually went down, then I would know. Because I'm like, I know it has something to do with Heather's business. The rumor is that Monica went to several of Heather's businesses disguised and got services and then basically like wouldn't pay for them or sued them and saying it was like bad.

And now Heather finds out that it was Monica on the trip. Heather came out and she said that the hot mic moment on the Bermuda trip isn't about Monica. Or it's not about the lawsuit. So she said the lawsuit happened after they shot Bermuda. So she hasn't revealed what it is, but she says that the real drama hasn't started yet. The real drama hasn't started yet before the finale. As in the finale is the real drama. Duh, yeah.

I bet the reunion also is gonna be insane wild the dinner of monica and her mom where they're like trying to her mom's like trying to apologize and she just like keeps calling her a motherfucker and like she needs an aspirin it's just the it's so wild and it's just it makes me feel so sad for Monica because I'm sure like I can't imagine how hard that is to like have your mom be that type of mom and also want to be on the show and want to be like in the spotlight and trying to. And throw you under the bus. Prove people wrong. Yeah. But Monica is doubling and tripling down on the Internet.

She is she is leaning in. As a good housewife does. As is. That's what I'm going to say. Like, I'm like, I feel like I feel like she will be back if they permit it just being that. I'm like, she is good drama. She's good television. And she just doesn't, she doubles down.

She doubles down and she's like, all right, kick me off the show. I don't care. And we're like, but we want to know your thoughts. Speaking of leaning in, what did you make of dorit's post following the uh basically the privileged episode i like living in my bubble or whatever i i don't know if this is going to be some sort of like uh hot take or but like i'm sorry like i just can't take any one housewife calling out an other housewife while dripped in opulence and privilege. Right. Criticizing some other housewife of being more or less privileged.

Right. Isn't that what housewives is about? To be disconnected and out of touch and living in their bubble? A thousand percent, yes. It's like, I say I watch reality TV as a social experiment of just seeing how other people live in all different walks of lives and especially with the funds behind it. Well, she got called out by Garcelle for being privileged. And then Erica said... It's because Doreen had said, you're attacking me. Right, it's because she was attacking...

So the privilege wasn't like monetary, it was like racial is what she was getting at. Right. Monetary, it was like racial is what she was getting at. Right. And I think it was it was also because she threw Sutton under the bus with the whole making out with her driver thing and trying to make it a joke. And I will say that with Dorit, like she just kind of says whatever she wants at whatever period of time. And then when she gets a little backlash for it, it's instantly like victim instead of it being like, okay, wait, what did I say that was wrong there? Like actually having the conversation,

she's more like, no, no, no, no, no. You said this and it's very like defensive and very not willing to hear the other person. So like, that's where I'm also like, I get where Garcelle was coming from, but I'm also kind of like, we don't have to shoot all the way to like, I can't with your privilege

because she's not saying anything to that effect. She was just kind of being a dick. Yeah. In all honesty to Sutton. Which is fine. Don't we want that? I don't. A thousand percent.

But I'm just like, it's part of the housewives. I'm like, they're petty. Yeah. They're petty. They take every small little sentence and turn it into a T-shirt, a sweatshirt, a caption, whatever it is. But they want the effect. And I feel like Dorit doesn't really have a lot storyline wise going on right now either. So I'm like, if you're going to hold on to your little bubble comment, then I'm like, she wants the attention for it. Yeah. You could also choose to ignore it. I'm fine with it. I just.

Yeah, I don't know know housewives arguing over privilege yeah i think the more i i believe this is in the same episode the more um spicy part of that episode besides this was erica asking denise who's more profitable only fans her or her daughter oh that was wild i mean she said you don't think I'm going to go that low? Do you know me? And I was like, what? But I also want to know the answer to this question. No, truly.

Because wasn't Denise like, didn't she have a package deal for $7? $7 is to subscribe. $12 was the bundle. Oh. And the guard cell said, I think if I'm Denise, I'm worth at least $10. That's mean. I would say she's worth more than that denise fucking richards like come on she's a bond girl yeah she's definitely worth more come on well she could charge whatever she wants but then denise set her own prices well that's what i was gonna say too

i don't think we know how only fans works i believe you can set your own prices no you can't is there a maximum or a minimum? Why are we criticizing Denise Richards for being generous? I just think she... For offering a deal. She's also one of the top... Performers. Whatever the...

Yeah, performers on OnlyFans. She's doing something right. Erica put it out of context. It makes it seem like she's cheap, but she's making money. Well, if you think about it, if you make something affordable that anybody could get,

you're going to have so many more people buying it than exclusivity for $1,000. Here's a picture of Denise's whatever. That's true. I see why she did it. I feel like Denise could have had a better comeback. You are a mean woman. I think it's in the next episode.

I feel like she's going to clap back because they cut off, right? I think so, yeah. They don't finish the conversation. There's that, but there's also also there's plenty to clap back with Erica the dinner though too did not go down I think the way that she saw it in her head I was like it was very like

incoherent and very like she had a fever yes she had a cold are you saying the weed dinner? so she went on Bethany's podcast and she insinuated that there might have been a mix up with the din yeah so she went on bethany's podcast and she insinuated that there might have been a mix-up with the dinners so she's saying she doesn't do weed but she thinks that there might have been a mix-up like they gave her a wrong they gave her the wrong play

and then that like but she kind of showed up a little exactly yeah again denise love you babe we love the assignment was to get fucked up and you got fucked up and I don't think you need to apologize. A thousand percent. Like. Just own it. Just own it. Yeah. Like, get sloppy. Give us good TV. Yeah.

Celebrate the fact that you're one of the top runners on OnlyFan. I mean. I don't think we need to apologize for getting a little fucked up. Not at all. Not at all. But I do want to know the answer to that question. Is Denise's daughter a top performer? I don't know,

but I do know that it was like, I remember seeing a bunch of headlines about her daughter being on only, it was like a thing. Yeah. When she like turned 18, she like got right on. Right. They also collabed together on,

I think Sammy's had the collab of Denise and Sammy. You can collab like on Instagram. Yeah. I don't know what the collab means, but there was pictures of something. I don't know. Also, it's my understanding that while OnlyFans is often known for nudity and adult content,

there are plenty of creators who cook. Yeah. Or might have more of an R an r version rather than like an nc17 you know like maybe they're covering stuff up so we don't know if maybe the collab between denise and her daughter was like more tasteful i can't see what she has listed on her page i will say this is the only time i've been on only fans and it's on my work computer. I feel like everyone has to be like, I mean, I don't really know. I just like it. She has like a lot of like,

it's like locked up, but the caption is like, tip me $30 and I'll DM you the uncensored pic, kissy. Do you like the view? Tip $11 and I'll DM you the whole set. Jumping in the tub, tip and I'll send you this photo. Feeling naughty again, want to see? Tip and I'll DM you this whole set. Jumping in the tub, tip, and I'll send you this photo. Feeling naughty again, want to see, tip,

and I'll DM you this photo. I'll be honest. I do want to see. I will tip. It does pique the curiosity. It's like, you know what? I'm here. What's 30 bucks?

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At midnight. Must be nice. Y'all didn't stay up? No, we fell asleep. I was awake. Did you watch the ball drop, at least? Like at 7 p.m.? Or 8 p.m.?

Did we watch the New York version? No, we did. We had the New York version on, and then I looked at the clock, and it was 9.04 our time, so 12.04 New York time and I was like Nick what the fuck because they were airing the Pacific the West Coast version yeah so we missed the New York ball drop

oops yeah maybe next year we'll go crazy with our daughter yeah we'll have a kid that is so wild I saw the little baby clothes, though. I'm just so excited. I should see our nursery.

I said I want a whole OOTD account for this baby. Sierra, something I wanted to do with you, because the release of Vanderpump season 11 is dropping this month. When is it? The end of the month? January 30th. January 30th. She knows.

I thought it'd be fun to do like a kind of a Vanderpump power ranking of like what we think of these characters because, you know, they are characters

on a show. Thousand percent. Now that the dust of Scandival has settled-ish and now we're going into the new year, what do we think,

what's at stake for each of these cast members as they go into season 11 and where do we feel or how do we feel about these people and what do they have to win lose what do they have to gain or lose going into season 11 where to start who to start with great question do we start with tom sandoval or do we start with ariana ariana which one do you want to start with um let's do tom tom sandoval i mean i think it's this is going to be a rough season for him obviously i think that you think so i do i think that people are tired obviously of sandoval the whole thing i think he's done a fine job of putting himself out there enough to kind of distance himself.

Because, like, what, that was, like, last March. But, I mean, I personally, like, I just don't like cheaters. I don't like the hypocrite kind of position that he's in to where it's just kind of like he takes zero accountability zero responsibility but yet wants everybody to have sympathy for him and i can't really stand behind that so i mean i'll be interested to see this season being forced with all of the those people that he's going to be trying to win back essentially i i would be interested to see his take on it but like i feel like it's kind of hard to forgive somebody or like forget that whole situation.

Like I would be fine if he wasn't on the show, to be completely honest. I know. Yeah. He's just, he's just never been my favorite, to be honest. I know he's a buddy of yours,

but you carried the man on your back. He's not an enemy of mine. No, not at all. And listen, he was like hanging out. but you know i did get to know him and you don't have to say that to stay in my good graces it's okay no i'm like i don't think i think listen he's a human being people do bad things obviously it's it's how you come back from it after the fact absolutely did you learn something from it are we still not taking any responsibility are we acting like this is something that happened to you that you had no

choice in because that's what bothers me the most tom and tom will be on the show sometime this month honestly we have so many other major interviews to get through this month that like honestly the tom and tom humblebrag uh we just have to find a spot for them. Right. That's how big this month is going to be. If I can be in that corner, I would love that. But I would love, from your point of view, what? Rachel, Lindsay, and Brian Abalso file for divorce. Breaking news. Yeah.

What? 11 minutes ago, Allie just sent it to me. Oh my God. She's on it. She's just here. She was just here. Oh, I'm sorry to hear she was just here and she literally was just like yeah like we've we're great like we because i don't expect anyone to no i guess otherwise when they're not i know but like oh my god i mean if she would have came out

here and said well you know like we're probably gonna file for divorce soon or even if she was like you know you know like relationships are really hard and you know who knows what the future holds i will say i think it's interesting the so it's an e-news post that just broke 10 minutes ago and it it phrases it brian files for divorce from rachel oh yeah. So she might have been blindsided? Possible. Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Their date of separation was Sunday, December 31st. He is also requesting spousal support from her.

What? Happy New Year. He's requesting spousal support. What do we think of that? How long have they been together? A couple years. Well, I mean, they met in 2017 on the show. Married for four.

What does he do? Chiropractor, right? He's a chiropractor. I mean, you know that she's more successful than him. It's not shocking. It's giving Ariana Grande filing for spousal support from built in. And it was just like, in what world? Literally.

You know. Come on, babe. Yeah. Like she's worth like $20 million. But OK. Yeah. She asked for spousal support. He's like worth like three.

That was like on the divorce paper filing. Is that just like a lawyer thing? Maybe it's like a security thing where I'm like, even if you don't actually go through with it, I don't know. I don't know if it's a power move i don't know what it is but i'm just like obviously she makes more money than him so and when somebody gets used to a certain lifestyle i just do think it's wild that you're just kind of like well i was used to spending their money and now that i'm not getting that i still legally i just you know i know nally's are nine are in the heels of a marriage and we love sharing everything.

Even Stanley Cups, obviously. But two successful people in their own right, doing their own thing, having no kids. Can't you just handshake and just kind of be like, hey, all right, good luck. Wish you the best. Yeah, wish you the best. And not ask for each other's money. Well, funny thing that you say that because I, for the longest time, as growing up, I was like, I don't ever want to get married. I want to be like Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. And I've come to find that they are the exception, not the rule. for a decade just living in a house together having babies on ice and seeing how complicated breaking up has been sharing assets and things like that i'm like connor we're not doing anything

until you put a ring on it yeah like literally like by a state because i'm like california specifically we don't um we don't recognize domestic partnerships so it's kind of what lala said in the reunion she was like oh i'm sure the court will care that you feel like you're married they don't they don't care even if you've been together for however long. So that's where I'm like having everything set in stone and even having the paperwork that's like, hey, if we break up, you leave with what you came with. Like, you know what I mean? And having that set in stone and it's an agreement beforehand because I think breakups are messy. Divorce, I'm sure, is extremely messy, but I'm like having two people share life together for a decade without any type of protection involved. I mean, there's no limits. Truly. So he filed for divorce on December 31st. That was the date of separation listed. Man, it sounds abrupt. A lot of speculating. feel bad maybe we should just

yeah accept it yeah we wish her the best we do a little bit more than Brian I mean wish them both the best but I'm more friends with Rachel

so like team Rachel sorry fuck if we're choosing teams I don't know if we are but next week they will be back

with sweatshirts team Rachel all right anyways back to the Vanderpump so sorry I just felt like that was

we just needed to bring it up we don't usually get breaking news in the middle of a recording session usually it happens like right when

we get done we're like fuck pick it up so Tom Sandoval what could he say him and Tom sitting on this couch what could Tom Sandoval say

that would change my mind specifically that would make I what what could tom sandoval say that would change my mind specifically not that would would make i guess what could he say that would make you go all right i feel the way i feel about him he fucked up he sucks he blah blah blah but like honestly i don't know maybe he's he's contrite and he's he's trying to make the most of this and he seems like a person a person willing to learn from this like could he say something that would make him demonstrate that maybe he's on a path of maturity yeah um he's had also like what nine months to say this as well and hasn't in any interview any podcast anything

that i need tv show where he was very vulnerable and could talk about the terrible things that he's done in his life and wants to grow from a thousand percent watching the podcast where he was very vulnerable and could talk about the terrible things that he's done in his life and wants to grow from and be better from. Watching the podcast where it was just like, well, Ariana wanted and it was just like, no, no. Say that. Hey, I made a choice, a bad one, but I made a choice that I believed in because I and I was confused. I was scared of what was going to happen after the fact if I decided that I wanted to be

with Rachel and like actually taking responsibility instead of victim blaming instead of oh we weren't happy well she didn't want to have kids like it's it's everybody else's fault is from what I've heard throughout the last nine months so I'm like to actually see somebody take responsibility and grow from it I just don't believe that that's the case and like'll see. I don't know either. Did you watch the trailer for the new season? Yeah. So there's that clip where James, where I was never expecting him to be

MVP on my bingo card ever. But there's a scene where he's talking to Tom and he's like, you have so much growing up to do and it's sad, man. And I was like, the idea that this kid's maybe not half his age, but close enough to where I'm just like, and looking at him being like, you have growing to do and it's sad man and i was like the idea that this kid's like maybe not half his age but like close enough to where i'm just like and looking at him being like you have growing to do yeah i don't i don't know what season tom is in right now other than i think maybe he's in a party season he's been in a party season since the beginning of time yeah i think he's yeah i think he's episode one season one the he's. Episode one, season one, the party trick of the shots

going into the thing and he was like, you know, we're all metal actors out here. Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.

But we'll give it the old college try when he's here. We'll give it the old college try and I can't wait to see and hear what he has to say.

Tom Schwartz, what would you like to see from Tom Schwartz? What does he have to lose? What's at stake for Tom Schwartz going into season 11? I'd like to see Tom Schwartz have What would you like to see from Tom Schwartz? What does he have to lose? What's at stake for Tom Schwartz going into season 11? for him up until you see them split and Katie demand like respect for herself then all of a sudden it was like wow and I had some really strong opinions about him but I was like it was

very it was giving very like weasel like to where it's just like oh we're gonna throw her under the bus and be like look at what I have to deal with and then come to find out I'm like you're just as responsible for the choices and decisions that are happening in your life it's not everybody else so and even watching him on winter house did you guys watch winter house he was very like like oh it's not everybody else so and even watching him on winter house did you guys watch winter house he was very like like oh it's so hard for me to move on and everything so it's very like victim so i would like to see him kind of who is he who is tom schwartz outside of a relationship outside of the toms i would like to know from both toms like vanderpump ends tomorrow what's your life look like what What do you do?

Right. Like, what do you have planned for yourself? I'm like... I feel like a lot of the other cast members have at least a plan, an idea of a passion, of something they want to do outside of Vanderpump. Can I say, Tom Schwartz actually does bewilder me, though, because I said he is the epitome of the line like fake it till you make it. Because it was like he had he was never a cast member on the first like two seasons. He got a job at one of the restaurants for like an hour.

Right. He panicked and then just like left his shift. He was like, I don't know how to do a job. And then what, four seasons in, five seasons in, Lisa just hands him part like an ownership of a bar and I'm just like I've never seen that in my life like where it's like he has no idea what he wants to do besides possibly be a model actor. His biggest quality was like I'm really good at jumping while people take photos of me and then come to find out he's a you know five percent bar owner and then a half bar owner at a what is it not Tom tom what's the other one swartz and sandys shorts and sandys so it's like and now full-time right because i think sandoval stepped down from that so yeah i don't think he's uh he it's him i think it's tom shorts and greg running it or does tom i don't think sandoval's a part of shorts and sandys anymore from what i read he could not be a part of like from a decision making standpoint but he could still like have the shares like as a like a more of a silent partner nowadays where they're just like, hey, we don't want you making decisions.

I mean, if his name's still on it, unless Schwartz and Greg bought out Sandoval. That's what I'm that's what I'm under the impression of. Feel free to ask them. But like, yeah, no, I'm pretty positive that it's just schwartz after everything and i know that he still has his shares in tom tom but um yeah yeah no i'm very curious it says as of september he still owns part of it it's still cohen sandoval still owns part i have a hard time believing sandoval would give up his equity next on the list sheena oh uh a complicated figure yeah it's it's funny because it's like there's a part of me that always wants to root for sheena and then it's like she kind of always does something to where i'm just like girl when when will you get it like stop being the guy's

girl stop like just just be real for once. And then obviously the preview came out where they're trying to make it look as if Schwartz and Sheena made out in Vegas. I saw that she tweeted back because somebody was like, I can't believe you would do that. And she goes, I didn't. So part of me is wondering if he actually made out with mini Sheena and that they just edited it. Do you remember mini Sheena from Vegas? I'm not familiar we are only uh i'm uh so you know season 10 watch it all okay we're now in the beginning of season three okay so rewatch it's five five plus season eight yeah this is when you when you get introduced because uh lisa's opening up her restaurant in vegas but there's a girl that works there that everybody dubbed mini Sheena because she literally looks like her.

She's 20 something years old and very like and like that's who I'm kind of thinking that they might have like. That's definitely going to be who it is. You know what I mean? I'm like, I find it so hard to believe after all of this time that everything going down that this wouldn't have come out sooner. You know? Yeah. It was definitely mini out sooner. It was definitely mini Sheena. It was definitely mini Sheena. So that's where I was like, I instantly was like, yes, because at the end of last season, I was so proud of Sheena

for having that sit down with Sandoval and just being like, you could have called her mom, you could have told us, but you didn't have to go and make out with her friend. And I was like, finally you are getting it. And then when i saw the the trailer i kind of ran away with it being like finally give this girl credit but no i think sheena's gonna be the one that i'm watching the most to see how she's grown because she's finally

i feel like especially having a daughter and being married and being in that space i think she's finally getting to a place to where i can be like an outwardly sheena fan do you think um the clips not only i think on well there was a clip of her doing a podcast i think it was more from that talking about how ariana doesn't understand how hard this has been for her yeah and what do you make of that because that's not even a small eye roll for me. It's a massive eye roll. not her fault or how she got played in the situation but i don't think that there's ever a way to where you will be in the right for saying that this was hard on you ever because i'm like the only person that got fully humiliated is ariana like i don't care how close you were to rachel i'm sorry that she was part part of your family and it's not to say that it didn't affect you. Sure. Right. But this is not your moment to ever take the spotlight and say, but what about me?

Right. Especially because her and Lala and, well, quite frankly, everyone. But especially her. Who? Let me rephrase this. I'm kind of giving you the answer. I'm giving you the answer to my question for me. But who do you think has tried to capitalize on Scandaval the most?

I mean, Lala had to send it to Daryl. And she was kind of, yeah. That's what she put her down payment on her Palm Springs house with, was all the money she made from Send It to Daryl. I was going to say, yeah, I'm like, I feel like Katie wasn't really out on the forefront. And obviously none of the guys. So, yeah, between Sheena and Lala, because they made merch. And their podcasts, they really leaned in. Well, also, they just put out

like their Christmas song where they like diss Rachel and it's an awful song but it's also like why now yeah we're in December

this happened in March like let let the dog die you should have done a St. Patrick's Day song like if you wanted to do this you know

like it's just so I'm like and you're still trying to like capitalize off of it I mean James made a little bit of merch like uh the worm merch send the valsalaya yeah he did that which i don't have a problem with any of them doing any of that i think it's your bag yeah but just shut the fuck up when you're you're trying to shine a spotlight about how difficult this has been for you like you don't get to you don't get

to monetize off of it and then also victimize yourself at the same time you don't get to do and it wasn't about you you know what i mean at the end of the it wasn't about you sheena where i'm like rachel coming out with the podcast that one to me where i was like i thought you wanted to be out of the spotlight no she just wants to be in control and now it's like not only want to be in control of the narrative but i'm like still trying to find a way to monetize off of Scandival, even though we're supposed to be not talking about that anymore. Even the name of your podcast. Like, you know. What is it?

Rachel Goes Rogue. You already went rogue. She did. Yep. Again? Rachel Goes Rogue Part 2. or Rachel goes rogue part two and Rachel goes rogue doesn't sound like a title like that's focused on mental health betterment right of yourself no it sounds sloppy no listen I love a messy title I mean I love a mess like especially in the podcast space from a marketing standpoint

I get it but to your point it doesn't align with what she is also trying to come across and make herself out to be the victim. Rachel certainly tried that on Bethany's podcast with the help of Bethany. Nice to see you. But yeah, no, Sheena and Lala, to me, have been kind of the two people more than anyone who tried to monetize this experience well and la la too where i'm like obviously bust your heart i know that she went through a really tough year with her split from her awful ex yeah i'm just like but at the same time i feel like there's a lot of like jealousy that kind of came into it being that her moment kind of got stolen by scandaval because she wanted to

use uh banner pump rules to be able to talk about the divorce and they had the new york times piece come out and the hulu specials and all of that and she said like all of her stuff pretty much got cut once skandaval dropped um so i feel like she's gonna do that again this year and like we're still talking about the i keep wanting to call it a divorce but they were never married so yeah the whole randall of it all but yeah no nobody cared at the time be interesting interesting to see how lala tries to thread that needle right you know because she also had that line in the trailer about you know she's never met anyone who got cheated on and then became god yeah or something like that and is that big question is is that just a overly hyped sizzle that's maybe somewhat taking it out of context or is that a moment where lala is at her wits end with the attention that ariana is

getting and the it's all bottled up to her like yeah i mean deep down i you know behind closed doors you got to wonder how frustrated lala is you know thinking about because you could make an argument for lala that what she went through was arguably worse and there's a child involved yeah you know and somebody who has a lot of power and a lot of money in this town like and scary yeah with and they had to get lawyers involved and there was a lot more red tape and bullshit and and fears that lala had to do deal with over ariana that's that's a pretty easy argument to make a thousand percent and yet and even then the same like cheating scenario has already gone down on two different seasons of this show so I'm like the

exact same way that Jax cheated on Stassi lied about it maybe it wasn't the best friend oh actually Kristen hi so I'm like even then where I'm just like Stassi was the one that was villainized for how she reacted to the cheating and everything and wasn't given this platform but I was like after 10 years well let's say Ariana was on for like eight seasons so like after eight years of like watching this relationship I think that's why it blew up the way that it did was because we all were invested with the parasocial relationship of being like oh we watch this go from Kristen being crazy or whatever to them getting together to like oh I believe in true love to being like he would never cheat with the best friend that's why it blew up the way that it did was because we were already

like a part of that relationship but for all the other ones it was like year one year three like we were like people get cheated on every day all the time lala if randall was actually on the show like actually and not just like a guest star every once in a while, I feel like even then that would have had a different reaction. Also, I feel like people looked at Lala and Randall and immediately were like, just let us know when it doesn't work out. Yeah. I think that was the overwhelming perception of that relationship was just let me know

when they file for divorce. Well, and she kind of like led us to believe that like everything was OK up until it wasn't. You know what I mean? Sure. But I don't know if anyone ever really warmed up to Lala and Randall as a couple. You know what I'm saying? No one was like rooting for them. No.

Well, I mean, everybody kind of saw it for what it. Sure. What it looked like. It didn't have the best optics to start with. And it was already it was wrapped up in scandal when it began yeah he was married yeah so you know i think unfortunately for lala she wasn't able to capture on an overwhelming amount of empathy and support whether that's fair or not right you know but that there's that's why scandal all took off and her situation never really did. Faded to the background. But she was able to monetize Scandival. Honey got a

house in Palm Springs. They're all thriving for it. She's doing great. They're all doing great. Let's be serious. Still waiting for the sandwich shop to be opened. Well, we'll find out from Katie. Is she coming on? Yeah. This Thursday. I'm going deeper. With a big announcement massive announcement Katie has a big announcement oh I can't wait you guys

I love this show so much going on speaking of Katie Katie's what do you want to see from Katie this Katie's one of my favorites I'm not gonna lie yeah I am team Katie all the way I loved watching her gain her independence

and demand respect I love seeing her just not a part of a team right now you know what I mean and I like that I like that she's always a girl's girl she backs up her friends till the end but her just like telling Tom Schwartz the truth after they broke up I was just like

I love her so much. I want the best for her. I'm like, I don't really think I have a comment on it. I love that. She's experimenting. I saw the whole, like there's a girl that's hooking up with both of them.

Yeah. I believe her and Tom share are fighting over a lady. Like give it, give it. She got her haircut. She was like, I'm coming back. The boss. Actually, she came over to our house, give it. Give it. She got her hair cut. She was like, I'm coming back. The boss. Actually, she came over to our house

like the weekend that happened and told us all about it. Oh. Yeah. I want the tea. No, I love her. Katie can do no wrong to me. As I said, all I want is the sandwich shop open.

I want her to thrive. Do you think James and Allie will work out? I do. I think she's so great for him. I'd like to see more Allie this season. Yeah. I'd like to have her have a more prominent role. I always get concerned because I'm like, she's just so nice. You know

what I mean? That I'm just like, this is a tough group, I think, to ride with all the drama. But somehow, I mean, she keeps her mouth shut. She's way more articulate and smarter in person than I think she is. Then she comes off on the show. Yeah. I think she's edited down to being kind of a quiet and like almost young, you know, demure girl. And I did not. That's not the impression I got from her when I've met her a handful of times in person.

Yeah. Like she really seems like she is a good influence on James and like she has no problem kind of like letting him know. When he's wrong. I think she has more control in that relationship in a good way than the show portrays them to. I think that was also kind of clear the beach day when she was just like, you're embarrassing yourself. Sit down.

Like it was just like, but not in a way to where wanting a bigger reaction. It was just very much like, hey, like, yeah, I'm checking. I'm talking to you. Yeah. Simmer down. So I'm like, I really like her. I think she's got her her ducks in a row. And I'm excited to do you give her any amount of criticism for up until Scandaval acting somewhat indifferent about infidelity when it didn't have to affect, when it didn't have to do with her? So I had a weird thought about this this morning, actually, because I'm like, I do think that everybody has like paths in life. Right. And when you're kind of going down the wrong one, I think the universe kind of steps in and is like, like, I know that you feel comfortable. I know. And like complacency, comfortability is great, but complacency, not so much. And I think that clearly her journey was meant for so much more that unfortunately, it had to blow up the way that it did. Because I think that maybe she was meant for all of the stuff that's been coming for her, you know what I mean? But she was never going to actually experience that being in Tom Sandoval's shadow, you know, or the number one supporter.

Like she's like, cool, I have a nice house. I can hang out with my friends all day. I film. But it's like, no, get out there and like live your life the way that it's supposed to go down. So that's where I'm like, I don't really have. I just hope that she's not. Like, I hope it hasn't all gone to her head. You know what I mean?

I hope that she doesn't go on there and is diva-esque or just like, well, this is my side gig now. Because, I mean, homegirls ricking it in. Yeah, it'll be really interesting how she... Because they also thought that she had a superiority complex. That's what Stassi said on a season, was saying that her and Tom think very highly of themselves so I'd be interested to see her a in the new relationship and be just

like yeah how she's handling everything uh post Scandival with you know she's guest starred she's Dancing with the Stars all that stuff was actually I think Dancing with the Stars came after filming no yeah yeah it came after filming so I'm like yeah just want, I'm curious to see if it's changed her personality, if it humbled her, if it, if she's just exactly the same. I don't know. I would imagine,

I mean, I haven't really talked to her, but I would imagine she's probably mostly the same. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, when you go from living with a man that does karaoke 24-7 and just like hanging out with your friends,

watching love Island, it's a little different than all of a sudden being out in the world, dating somebody in New York, like going on all of these shows and guest starring and everything. So I'm just like, I think it's just interesting to see if that's affected her at all, or if it's just kind of like, I own this,

you know, like it's finally like my turn, but it doesn't change me. Cause that's what she wanted to do to begin with. Have you seen the preview of Lisa's new show on H hulu no it's like a new vanderpump rule vanderpump villa or something yeah she's opening up a restaurant in paris is it is it paris employees is it a bunch of paris kids or is it a bunch of american transplants it's her house right ali at her french yeah home i believe in a chateau in France. It's a house.

It's her house. Yeah, it's like her housekeepers and the butlers. Yeah, I was like, I remember seeing the casting call for that because I think they're going to have guests come to the house. So they're constantly like, almost like Vanderpump Rules, but it's like below deck as well. Yeah. So. Isn't it interesting that it's on Hulu though and not Bravo?

Or Peacock, yeah. Yeah, like. Yeah, that is weird.? Or Peacock, yeah. Yeah. Like. Yeah, that is weird. Maybe her contract's up with Bravo. No. It's kind of. You would think.

Yeah. Or like just Peacock original. Yeah. But it's on Hulu. I don't know. I couldn't tell you about that one. We'd have to ask her. Yeah.

But that looks good though. And do we know, is it French people or is it American transplants? Do we know? I think it's just her villa. Her chateau. Yeah. Why do you think it has anything to do with Paris or French people or is it American transplants do we know I think it's just I think it's just her villa her chateau yeah why do you think it has anything to do with Paris or French people

oh chateau oh I thought they were filming it in Paris it is it's not I don't think it's in Paris necessarily but it's in France

it's in like the French like off the French coast or something it's not her Casa de Lisa oh Villa Rosa

Villa Rosa um yeah ever been have I been to Villa Rosa nice It's not her Casa de Lisa. Villarosa. Villarosa. Yeah. Ever been? Have I been to Villarosa? Yeah, it's nice. You kill me. Yeah, no, no. Haven't gotten that invite yet, but Lisa, I'm waiting.

Truly. She's a very nice host. I bet. Did you see her mini horses? She gave me the whole tour. Why were you there? I was a guest in our very first podcast episode that no longer exists. Nick.

R.I.P. Jealousy. Seething. She had too many things going on. I want to go on her. I don't think it's a show anymore, but she had that show that was like the dinner party where like everyone would come to her house and she'd cook dinner and just get them drunk and have a time. I was a guest on that. you kidding yeah i'm done with you you've met my

hero and i'm glad she lives up to it because they say don't meet your heroes oh lisa yeah i love her love her she's uh she's pretty on right i don't think she'd disappoint you i don't think so either i think i would just want to pick her brain and learn everything. I'm like, that is an entrepreneur right there. I really enjoyed her company. Yeah. In person, yeah. She's intelligent.

She's funny. She's beautiful. Ageless. Ageless. Timeless. Classy. You know? Anything else we want to talk about before we let Ciara go?

Anything else you just want to get off your chest? No, I'm just happy to be here. Get chest no i'm i'm just happy to be here i am just happy to be here i'm ready for my shows to pick up this week we've got kyle and sutton and then yeah what are the what are the housewives like scandals that you're that that are you're in mid form that you need answers to like your your housewives burning questions that you are excited for-form that you need answers to. Your housewives burning questions that you are excited for clarity. Everything with Monica.

Everything with Monica while the castmates hate her. I need to know if... Kyle and Morgan and tattooing her initial on her body and everything. I'm just like, why are we so secretive about what's going on there? Do you think they're just best friends? Well, actually, that just reminded me. We didn't even talk about Mauricio and Aspen with that pop star.

And then fast forward to Christmas, New Year's week, Rihanna and Kyle and A$AP Rocky and Mauricio like were out shopping in Aspen together off the heels of him like pop, literally popping bottles at some sort of shirtless with ski goggles. I mean, living truly his best life. Truly.

I was like champagne guns. He doesn't give a fuck. They were just going. I will say Kyle came out and said that she said Anita is just a really close friend. best life truly i was like champagne guns he doesn't give a fuck they were just going i will say kyle came out and said that she said anita is just a really close friend whatever that means whatever that means but the fact that mauricio just like optics wise was like you know what i'm gonna take my shirt off i'm gonna wear some fucking goggles i'm gonna be with this like pop star that's i don't know half his age or whatever and yeah yeah very attractive and regardless of what is like kosher

or not with his understanding with what him and uh kyle have going on the fact that he just like i don't know what people say i gotta respect i i'm i'm envious of that amount of gives a fuck yes or lack thereof Or truly just out there. I love how involved Rihanna is in Housewives. Like, remember when she DM'd Heather and at season one reunion, I think, was like, yeah, Rihanna DM'd me and told me to, like, keep it real and whatever. And now she's, like, hanging out with Kyle.

We gotta get Rihanna on here to talk Housewives. A thousand percent. I was like she also oh gosh what did she do um this was like years ago Rihanna I I'm I lost it but you know Rihanna's been a huge fan of like Bravo and the housewives always has something to say and she oh it was when uh it was Vanderpump Rules I believe she had had mentioned something about Kristen needing to get fired after having... Oh, no, it was Lady Gaga. That was Lady Gaga.

That was Lady Gaga. My bad. My bad. Another icon. Another icon. So many icons watch Bravo. Love that. Do you think Gypsy watches reality TV?

I think this is what you need to introduce her to. Bring her into the stratosphere. Give her a list. The world needs to know Gypsy here. Start from season i wonder what she's been consuming right i love how much you think about her he does he thinks about her a lot i mean what is she doing right now the world like life is about making decisions like as a father an expecting father and i think about like how I want to be a dad. Like my only job

is to teach my daughter how to make decisions for herself. That's it. That's, that's honestly, I think the key to being a parent is just like teach them how to make decisions because that's what life is about. You'll be faced with unlimited decisions and how you approach the decisions and decisions you make that affect you and the people around you will be a direct result in terms of how your life turns out, your happiness. And that's regardless of where you come from, the decisions you make. And what's so fascinating about Gypsy is this is a person where her ability to make decisions for herself was absolutely stolen from her her entire life. her entire life. And prison was her first taste of even being able to make some decisions for herself. That was a step in the direction of freedom, was prison for Gypsy Rose.

Right. And now that she's out of prison, she can now make decisions for herself. And what are those decisions going to be? Yes, I am fascinated. Mom, just stay tuned. Watch her life, you know? Oh, we will.

Because you know she'll document it. And it'll get millions and millions of views. You start sending her messages and being like, please post your top five favorite new experiences this week. Hey, me again. What did you watch? What did you eat? Tell me everything.

Have you tried alcohol? there's just so many questions we all are living vicariously through gypsy a thousand percent all right well i think it's time to say goodbye sierra it's been a pleasure thanks for having me come back soon oh i'll live here you'll have me uh we can't appreciate you guys enough it's going to be an incredible year. We're so excited to be kicking off this 2024 with you. Thanks for tuning in on going deeper tomorrow. We have the dynamic duo of Katie Maloney and Dana Kathan with us.

It's going to be a while. They have a major announcement. Be sure to tune in for that. It's going to be a lot of fun with those two. And then don't forget next week, going deeper special episode on Monday, to tune in for that. It's going to be a lot of fun with those two. And then don't forget next week, Going Deeper special episode on Monday, Ask Nick on Tuesday,

and then Going Deeper again on Thursday. Wild. Wild, wild stuff. Can't wait to share it all with you. Sierra? Nick. Once again, thank you.

Can you please let our audience know where they can follow you, find you, all the great stuff you're doing. Plug, plug away. You can find me on TikTok and Instagram at Sierra C. Robinson. And then check out my blog

at SierraCRobinson.com. What are you doing on my blog? Fashion. All of it. Travel. Recommendations. Influencing. Influencing. We'll be influenced by Sierra. all of it travel recommendations influencing influencing

we'll be influenced by Sierra I mean a woman with impeccable taste thank you so much really and great

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