The Viall Files - E693 Reality Recap - Clayton, Payroll Husbands, and Housewives with Reality TV Star Gabby Windey

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! Today we are joined by Gabby Windey to talk about all things reality TV. First, we talk about Gabby’s thoughts on the Clayton paternity scandal and his recent episode with us. Then, we talk about some recent Vanderpump Rules headlines, and the women on the View telling Taylor Swift to smile. Then, we talk about Housewives - Salt Lake City, Beverly Hills, and Miami. We finish by talking about Natalie’s pregnancy, wedding updates, and their honeymoon.  “It’s worse case scenario after worst case scenario.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Brooklinen - So start the year off right by investing in yourself with Brooklinen’s sleep and self-care essentials.  Visit in-store or online at https://www.Brooklinen.com and use code VIALL for $20 off your order of $100 or more. Drizly - Is your January looking dry? Download the Drizly app or go to https://www.Drizly.com  Drizly is the go-to app for alcohol delivery. Must be 21+, not available in all locations. Hinge - Manifest the dating experience you want this year - Download Hinge and find someone worth deleting the app for. Grammarly - Start being more productive at work. Go to https://www.grammarly.com/PODCAST to download for FREE today. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @gabby.windey @nnataliejjoy @alison.vandam @dereklanerussell   

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yes who is it this week which baby mama is it this week fiance and our very special guest you've heard her laugh. She returns, friend of show. You know her.

You love her. Gabby. You're like, this is my walk-up song. Oh, my God. I know. He really draws out the first name. And I think it's because he has to think about how to pronounce the last name. There's some truth to that.

Totally. Siri pronounces it Wenday. Wenday. I love. Same. Which I'd like to request. And it's windy. Not Wendy, right? It's windy. Yeah, like the wind. Windy, yeah. It's kind of confusing. Wenday to you.

Okay, Wenday, baby. We should have our guests run in WWE style from the ropes. And start beating each other up. Yeah. I'll be Dutch. I'll take that one out. You're on the floor like, say uncle.

Gabby, how are you? I'm good. I'm in dry Jan. I have a lot of energy. She just got a sweater from the flea market that she's wearing. I'm telling everyone it's Bodie. I feel like this is $900. Just kidding.

I feel like it's vintage Chanel. Honestly, I would believe you. Right? What flea market was it from? Because some of them are expensive, so you could have been paying that price. No, it was $38. I like bragging about the $38 deals rather than... Same.

I feel a bit foolish. I like to brag about both $38 deals rather than... Same. I feel a bit foolish. I like to brag about both. I would agree. If I'm being honest. No, this was a... No, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't spend that much on a sweater. How about a...

What was it in Paris? That little... Ooh. What was that? Ooh. It was cute. Very... The blue?

A vintage Dior corset. Yes. A vintage Dior corset. Yes. A vintage Dior corset. How much would you spend on a vintage Dior corset? Oh, my God. Well, vintage anything. Speaking my language, I feel. It depends on how much money is in the bank and who's paying.

Currently, Nick was paying at that time. Yeah. So. Yeah. The cap goes up and up and up. Yeah. How much was it? It was like $900 dollars did you get it yeah of course i haven't worn it in a while you know yeah we've got some other things going on you're like trying to squeeze into it baby do you have like outfits that you're just like waiting and

waiting to jump into oh my god praying i smell them every day like what which one my jeans mostly just because i haven't been able to wear a tight, high-waisted... She's fitting really well into my jeans these days. Yeah. Yeah. Are we editing that out? Nope. Sorry.

I'll die. No, they don't even button, so... It's fine. You're going to drop it so fast, though. I feel you're so young, and like... Everyone says that, and I think're are um putting it out there and then the universe is gonna be like sorry but also who gives a fuck like you're literally give like well my wedding is um very quickly after so you give a fuck yeah which like i'm totally giving

life but also like it's my wedding day totally which is definitely a me problem but they say like breastfeeding your metabolism goes up so high. And the uterus shrinks faster. Make the baby feed all day, every day. All day, every day. Just give her that nip. Yeah. Yeah.

Even when she's not hungry. Eat! Seconds? Truly. Yeah. Truly. Gabby, we are very excited to have you. We didn't really even have a reality recap episode last week.

Last week was just a crazy week for us here at the Vow Files Gypsy Rose, Clayton Eckerd do you know? scandalous well it was more the Clayton story of it all yeah wow I watched it on

the TV, I got the visual you got the visuals because you wanted to see the receipts I mean I don't know but I was sucked in i was floored it's devastating to me what's so fascinating about that clayton story is that it's to me it's really a story about a guy okay once upon a time who you know just foolishly had a one one night stand with someone he was working with. It wasn't a one night stand. They just grinded. Well, what do you call it?

Yeah. We even call it. Is it that? So it's not a one night. It had a random one night hookup. Yeah. Yeah. And then.

A one night blowjob. Yeah. There was two. All the details he gave. I was fully dead. the crusty clayton's well what is he no yeah i felt like he was he gave every detail possible even the details that didn't want him in a flattering light right he is honest like he will i think he said that he was like suzy's said something like he's a lot of things, but not but he's not a liar.

Like, he's really honest. I feel like that's why he's good TV. This is the first time I'm watching him on anything like objectively. You're not personally. Victim to. But but I can understand like how he's good TV because he's like, he's just really like sometimes too honest. Yeah. But yeah.

But the story is really just about a guy who then found out that he was allegedly the father and has had a hell of a time trying to verify it since. I mean, that's really the story because when we did the interview, he was like, you know, if this person ends up being pregnant, I'll,

I will be the father, you know, but person ends up being pregnant i'll i will be the father you know but i just don't think she is and i can't prove it you know totally it was a story about a guy trying to prove paternity it's like worst case scenario after worst case scenario and like the receipts he brought was crazy like i like no other woman is going to give you a chance to like say you want to abortion no other one is going to give you a chance to like, say you want to abortion. No other one is going to do that. And like, I'll only do that if you date me.

Right. It was like so backwards. I know. Yeah. But like, if we stay together, the math wasn't math. No,

no, I know. And so he was stuck in, in between like a rock and a hard place. Cause it's like, he couldn't fully prove anything because she wasn't compliant well since then this person has come out saying she's not pregnant yeah yeah very carefully yeah just stating that they're currently not pregnant but to me it's really just about

clayton and no one was like even like disputing like his details it was just about one person saying i'm pregnant the other person being like can you prove it i do feel terrible for him like i feel like the financial cost i think honestly it's just really a sad story it is really sad yeah you know it doesn't it's yeah i think it's a sad story and do yeah that is my question to you do you feel bad like where is your empathy for clayton okay okay i know i was gonna be trapped here and i came skipping in mind you i'm like here i go but um i think it's like obviously he even talked about it like you brought it up and it's like listening i went in because i didn't know anything about the case it's like i have like other things going on. Sorry.

Sorry. I'm buying my 17th rug for my house. Literally. Sorry. I'm still decorating my place like nine months later. I'm busy on Facebook Marketplace. But it's like I didn't say all I said was his tone was like not matching. And I feel.

And we addressed it on the show. His I am the father Maury Povich video was out of touch and weird. And we addressed it on the show. Right. And I feel like I. His I am the father Maury Povich video was. Right. Out of touch and weird and like. And even him coming on the podcast, me doubling down, proving my point that nobody cares about. But it's like the podcast was very serious. Like the tone was really heavy. This is the first time he talked about it. So I was like, OK, well, you're further kind of proving my point.

It's like if this is this is your first time speaking about it and it is really heavy, there's really no lightness in it. As we're like witch cackle laughing. No, I mean, I think he was able to make some light, too. It seems like it's eight months in the past and he has a new girlfriend and a perm. Like, I think he's he's doing a new girlfriend. He's got a perm. Animal. Yeah.

I don't know. I was on his TikTok last time just doing some light reading yeah literally knocking the ex I was catching up

but I think there's some video maybe it was his dance teacher but um I feel like I do commend him one because he has

gone through such a mental health journey and I feel like he really is coming out on top this motherfucker's been through a lot literally as the bachelor yeah like i can't see any positive that's come out of his experience yeah and he's like it's it's made me stronger i'm glad it's happened

i'm like oh my god this is actually like like good for you to like kind of have some meaning in it you know um but yeah i don't know he doesn't listen he's a guy who i think he's admitted on the show that he's incredibly stubborn yeah i think his stubbornness in my experience working with him has is what's caught got him into some of these particular situations yeah what he thinks he knows the answers when he might not. And I think some of it is this dumb luck, that whole thing, that girl on TikTok who claimed to have hooked up with him when he was halfway across the country. Yeah. I don't know how this guy gets himself in these unlucky situations. But I do think in the past, Clayton, you could say was guilty of just not making good decisions. You know, harmless, maybe, you know, like not malicious, but like.

You said it, not me. Yeah. I'm not saying anything. He was definitely. No, I know. I'm hoping there's a turn here as The Bachelor, you know, obviously you experienced some of his poor decision making. Yeah.

I don't think he was led down a right path. And I think other people in his position as The Bachelor are maybe were more capable of making decisions for themselves better than he was but yeah it's been quite the journey for him yeah totally i know he's been through a lot so hopefully this is like the last thing and he can like it's only up from here babe right because it yeah he's got a good spirit and you know it's uh but I hope this story ends. I hope it's over for him. I don't know. I know.

What's the deal now? What are the next steps? It's just really just, I know there was some stuff with Clayton. He was still going through something because it's like he wanted to hold, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's like he, I think he has a chance to walk away at this point. And the big question is, is she going to do the same?

OK, so I do, Clayton, if you're listening. I'm sure someone's going to send it to you. Yeah. I think there's a way because I feel like the financial burden is like really that like when he was like, my legal fees are close to one hundred thousand dollars. I was like, holy fees are close to a hundred thousand dollars i was like holy shit that is crazy so i think a way to make money take this yeah yeah yeah and like whoever's listening um it's like a documentary don't fuck with cats meet anna delvey because it really is the reddit army behind him that i feel like is like helping his case and help bring like brought it to light and if anyone's seen don't fuck with cats it was anna delvey because it really is the reddit army behind him that i feel like is like helping his

case and help bring like brought it to light and if anyone's seen don't fuck with cats it was like largely kind of based on yeah like the internet army is her name is she the one who spearheaded it love her she was great yeah yeah literally so it's like they could do a whole like i would watch a documentary about that and like he has a he has a name. It's, like, kind of so tragic. Take it and run with it. Pay off those lawyer fees. Yeah. I don't need any credit, honestly.

Parting gifts. Maybe a little. Yeah. From an ex. Right. You're welcome. Don't ever accuse Gabby of not caring. Literally.

I'm a lesbian now. What do you care? Tea. Clip that. Yeah. accuse Gabby of not caring. Literally, I'm a lesbian now. What do you care? T. Clip that. Yeah, crazy. Have you watched Traitors? No. I've heard about it, though. We're obsessed.

Oh my god, are you? It's actually so good. This is the second season, right? Yes. This is the second season. Ari, former Bachelor Nation, was on the first season. I think he did well. Are you familiar with the show at all? A little bit. Ari, former Bachelor Nation, was on the first season. I think he did well. Are you familiar with the show at all? A little bit.

Yeah, we dove into it this season, you know, almost accidentally. Now, Peter Weber's on it. Okay, yes. My friend Max is on there. Max, Dancing with the Stars. But it's great. It's like a murder mystery. All these characters, they're either the faithful, they refer to them, or the traitors.

And a couple people get to be selected traitors. Spoiler alert, by the way, we are three episodes deep, Gabby. How many are out? Only three. They dropped the first three at once. Now that I binged right through them. Oh, I love a binge. So yeah, you got Johnny Bananas from the challenge. He's constantly staying relevant.

How is Johnny Bananas still a thing? Because I think he's doing every single show possible. Yeah, it's working for him. He's been doing The Challenge, and then you got CT. Tamara Judge. There's a handful of housewives. There's a cash prize at the end, up to a quarter of a million dollars. But they do these challenges to build up the piggy bank of the challenges.

And then they all basically... Well, the best part is they literally talk about murdering each other like if you want to watch a show where you have a bunch of reality tv stars saying things like should we kill them today or like i think we should murder that person and like it's like amazing soundbites like they they take it they're very earnest about murdering people it's not like eliminating no they, they're like full on. We should kill this person. Let's kill them. I think it's really fun because they all like how the murders get chosen is like they all sit like blindfolded and it's like they get like tapped on the shoulder.

You know, it's very. And they're wearing like cloaks and stuff. It's so spooky. And Alan Cumming is the host and he has all these like amazing outfits and he's very fun. The production value looks insane. It's incredible. It's on Peacock? It's on Peacock. Okay.ock okay uh stream yeah peacock and nbc uh so you can watch it stream it johnny bananas by

the way spoiler goes home the first episode but they basically choose murderers the traitors and then you have to like it's it's fun because you as the audience know who the traitors are but no one else does so you just like watch people try to guess like, oh, their body language is weird. Oh, they said something like you're a traitor, you're a traitor. And they can vote people off. Oh, my God. And the murders stay the same throughout the season. Yes.

And they can add to it. They can like choose to add a traitor. Oh, my God. It's so good. So who are the traitors right now? Can you say? Phaedra and Dan. Yeah.

And Dan's won like two Big Brother seasons. So he's like. Oh, he's good. Very, yeah. Very good at the whole like social dynamic. At Kinsu? Yes. Oh my God, I love her.

Yes. She's on it. And then you have Michael Jordan's son who's dating. Larsa Pippen. Larsa Pippen. Oh, yeah. What do we think about that? Do you guys watch Real Housewives of Miami?

We haven't gotten into that one you guys have to start it we gotta get into the Mr. Jordan and Larsa Pippen I love Real Housewives of Miami because they're having sex five times a day

allegedly that is what I heard I wonder if they had sex at the Traders five times a day Trishel oh you know what she's sneaking in

Trishel that's the girl oh I remember she was from Real world las vegas i remember this was like when i was in like back in the day when i was like young and i remember her and like the two guys from real housewives came to some club it was club rain club in milwaukee must have been a while ago it was forever ago she's like a mom now she was like she looks amazing yeah i know okay slay trishel but uh yeah i remember her she was like she looks amazing yeah i know okay slay trish but uh yeah i remember her

she was like when i this was long before i was uh in reality tv so she's iconic she's she's been it for a while yeah still in the game i can't believe eckin sue's on there and peter weber don't forget peppermint it's really good you should watch it i want to watch it only because i love her did you guys watch her season of love Island? No. Oh, it's so good. She's great TV. She was like a soap star. She's kind of been a little quiet on Traitors. Maybe she'll pop up.

It's only the first three episodes. Sometimes you have to let it warm up to it. It's like Special Forces. Nick was barely in it for the first six episodes. Ah, we love an underdog. But it's like if you love... Me. Me.

we love an underdog but it's like if you love uh if you love uh kind of like you know being strategic and figuring out how to like uh yeah you know and it's kind of fun watching some of your favorite reality tv like totally in like a different way like being a villain yeah would would you go on uh they actually asked me to do this but i was right up for special forces so i was like too like sorry i'm too buff for this sorry sorry if it doesn't include push-ups yeah of the reality tv competition shows out there i'd be the most interested yeah like they did for me because like people had been asking me if i had seen it last season um where it was like half celebrity half not not, I think. And now that it's full celebrity, I feel like it's just drawn more interest.

Well, we're in. We'll be talking about it a little bit each episode just because it's it's that you really get to. It's captivating. It's very captivating. Yeah. We'll be watching it. There's new episodes 9 p.m. Eastern every week.

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vanderpump say it well it's just like first of all you're wrong yeah you know like sheena is mad at us but we didn't even say it it was charlie who said that she was a payroll husband it wasn't even us oh she's mad at you guys i love the goss what's the hot goss what did she say I don't know the exact quote but she basically was just like

calling Nick that's the thing that I don't understand a handful of episodes ago a few weeks ago like a month or two maybe a month maybe

we had Charlie Burnett on a returning guest is she on this season of BPR is she gonna do the other one the Villages I think

I don't know I don't think so I think she's just not doing reality TV. But we really enjoyed Charlie the first time. She was a very generous guest. You know, like, the first time we had Charlie on the show, it was like no one's ever, it was as if no one ever asked her opinion about Vanderpump.

And then we did. And then she was just like. Wow, she's been keeping tabs. And then the second time we had her on, it no one's asked her since wow she had a lot to say yeah she's got to get out more she's a generous guest and in that episode i'm dead when you say generous i'm like did she bring you presents but you're like no generous with the tea. She ate the tea. And in that episode, she brought up Sheena and Brock and referred to Brock as a payroll husband. As in, like, he is married to her for...

The money. The fame. The clout. The clout show. Which we had no comment on. I'm friends with Sheena. I like Sheena. Yeah.

Also, same, we just saw them at Kathy Hilton's party, and it was like a nice... Oh, my God, you went to Kathy Hilton's party? Yeah it was like a nice. You went to Kathy Hilton's party. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. I got into her bed. I'm lying. Oh my God.

I'm like to do what? I just want to sleep a little. You're like Kathy. I just want to lay my head on her bed. Gabby the lesbian was very into this story. Literally I'm like where's Paris? Also in the bed. It's everyone's bed.

Anyways, we had Katie and Dana on. And Nick, again, was just like, oh, Charlie referred to Brock as payroll husband. Like, what are your thoughts? And Sheena decided to bring it up. Because she was triggered by it. Today. I get it. I mean, last week or something.

She made a clip. What'd she say? Well, she just was like, I, you know, I'm naive because I thought Nick and I were friends. We are. We are. Yeah. We weren't saying we didn't say that. Right.

Charlie said that, who I believe y'all are not friends. Right. That would make sense. It tracks. It tracks. And then she called Nick misogynistic because she took it as Nick critiquing her as being the breadwinner in the family and providing for her family and not the man. So I think she just didn't understand what payroll husband meant.

Yeah. She was just a little confused. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, that's not actually what it means. And Nick's not misogynist. So, yeah. And then she went on to say his fiance is literally on the payroll, which she says

that as if she's writing checks. Like, I'm only here because it's fun. I enjoy hanging out with my fiance, not for a check, you know? Yeah. Like, I don't do this for anything other than like, let's love. Yeah. And it's like, who cares? It's not that serious. Right. It's not. It's really not that serious. So you guys are like

beefing? I wouldn't say we're I mean, I guess she got offended. I don't know if she listened to the episode. I doubt it. I doubt she did. Because things get taken out of context all the time on this. Like I made headlines on Us Weekly or something. I was like, what the fuck? For what? I what i don't know saying something about clayton i guess saying like my tone was wrong people are like she just wants to be relevant and i'm like that's why i went on the

view no i'm just kidding yeah yeah yeah and it's like what you said it's like it's just everything's just like not that deep we just like need shit to talk about. We run in like the same thing. So it's like. And like we, again, we didn't say it. Right. It was your person who's not a friend of yours. But whatever. I don't know.

Whatever. Yeah. Not that serious. Right. Anyway, so that's VPR. That's it. That's what's going on with VPR. I don't think there's anything in pop culture that's really like that pressing.

I will say that Chelsea Handler hosted the. How was it? And, you know, her ex, Joe Coy, did the Golden Globes. Yeah. Absolutely. Like shit show fire bomb dumpster fire. Thought he was so funny and absolutely was not. Did not make one funny joke.

And to say the least. And then blamed his writers for all of his shitty jokes which yeah didn't we just get over a writer's strike like you're gonna throw him under the bus right and it's like my thing is like don't you have time to prepare he's like i only had 10 days i'm like i don't give a fuck this is like a huge opportunity 10 days is enough right and you would you're like a professional you should go over your material and work. I wouldn't be getting any sleep. No. It's fine.

Sleep after. Exactly. Because who cares? It's like the Golden Globes. It's not two. Right. Ten days. Do you believe the ladies on The View told Taylor Swift to just smile at the joke?

Yeah, that was nuts. I don't think we should be going after Taylor Swift right now. She's on top of the world. She could be president any day. Also, how fucking annoying is that statement in general? Right. To tell women like you should smile more. Yeah. Or anyone.

I'm sorry. If you have a joke about me, that's fine. A lot of people do. Oh, okay. But like, I don't, it's not my, you know, I do not need to appease your joke by making sure I smile to make you feel good about your joke. Right. You can tell it.

Right. And it's not Taylor's job to laugh, be polite, to acknowledge it. She can do whatever the fuck she wants and she can look annoyed as she did. Literally, she's always a punching bag. It's like, especially at award shows, like, lay off of her.

She probably has drama. Truly. At award shows. Yeah. Leave Taylor alone! And then you have NFL like coming at her because like they're tired of her supporting her man and chiefs games again yeah why what is going on there like what that she is in no way bothering you like what's but also it's just not in her control she's not controlling the cameras she's not asking to be put on tv like this is not her fault so no it's capitalism and clearly it's benefiting our society she's

single-handedly saved the economy truly i don't know if it's saved but i know but she's been great for us she's been great for the nfl she's been great for literally anybody and everybody yeah kyle uschek nfl player his his wife is the one who made Taylor's coat. Oh, and did she pop off? Yeah, she was popping off. She just made Taylor Lautner's. Taylor Lautner, she made him a coat for the Lions game. Oh, sick. I'm trying to get one. Yeah, who's your team?

Oh, the Packers. The Packers, who play the Niners. So she probably won't make me one for this week, I'm guessing. And it's like a one-week turnaround. Yeah, probably not. Like, I need it. Didn't they dominate it yesterday? She is a fan of the Vow Files. Oh, nice. Hey, babe.

If you love me. We had some questions. We wanted to find out how this all came to be. Right now, the story is not available to be told. Wait, what story are we talking about again? How Taylor ended up wearing her coat. Maybe there's a Taylor-Lottner connection. Taylor and Taylor. Maybe something there because Taylor wearing her coat. Maybe there's a Taylor Lautner connection. Taylor and Taylor, you know.

Maybe something there because Taylor got a coat. Lautner. The Taylors. Yeah, it's all very confusing. Lautner. Lautner. Wendy and Lautner. Wendy.

Wendy. Jesus Christ. Vile. But anyways, yeah. Yeah. She's, to your point. Yeah. She's making everyone rich and famous

right and it's like isn't that what we want like people just want money like we're she's not even a monster like she does good she pays her employees well and gives them health benefits

and she also like pays like in the suites of the chief she's like giving them hundred dollar bills like the servers like yeah

I fucking hate someone like that anyways Jo Koy you're not fucking funny Chelsea Handler. Was she funny? Hilarious. Oh, my God. Absolutely crushed it.

And it's just like so because, you know, how men love to say that women aren't funny. Love. Love. Yeah. I love to prove them wrong because we're absolutely hilarious. I think so. And like for Chelsea Handler to absolutely shit on her ex-boyfriend the way she did. Oh, yeah.

No, we knew she was going to come up on top. I don't know. She ate. Was she? She ate. Seven plus one. Four plus four. Oh, yeah. No, we knew she was going to come up on top. I don't know. She ate. Was she? She ate. Seven plus one. Damn. Four plus four. Seven plus one. Six plus two. I can do math. Eight. Eight minus zero.

I want to kill myself. Eight. Good job. Thank you. Eight divided by one. Eight. Is that true? I don don't know i'm nervous now okay well i'm not gonna math so oh my god i'm not either i failed four times did you say eight times zero is eight no that's zero zero yeah you're like no i didn't say that you're trying to catch her in a bad math problem no i just want to make sure. You are misogynist. You're sick.

Girls can't do math and they're funny. I'm pregnant. With your child. Oh my god. Did you watch finale of Salt Lake City? Twice. Thank god. I took notes. I know you hated it. Loved. Oh, the reunion. Hated. Oh. You liked the reunion? Part one? I mean, i mean no i mean i just watched it twice

because i didn't i was gonna talk about it it was so boring they're gonna save all the count like vante's stuff to the third one it's just like we're all acting like that wasn't that didn't happen quite yet you know and that's what's like frustrating like we're talking about these other problems that don't fucking matter and literally we haven't thought of since Reality Von Teese has been exposed. Right. Why do they always have to do three-part reunions? They don't. For Housewives, they usually don't.

But for this, they are. So it's usually two. But basically, they're saying we have a lot of tea. Wait till two and three. I feel like they, I don't know. Yeah, I know. They got, like, extra episodes or something. Because I think New York's reunion was three parts too.

I feel like nothing happened on that season. New York's was three parts? I could be lying. I'm so full of shit all the time. Please, I feel like I need to make a disclaimer. People take me so serious. Don't take me serious. I know nothing about what I'm saying.

I know nothing. But I act like I do. But the finale was so, yeah, was so good. The finale was iconic. I didn't watch it on the day it came out and Twitter was like, this is so dumb. And I'm like, no, this is actually not dumb. This is like so good. The reunion or the finale?

The finale. How could anyone call that dumb? They're like, the drama is like not that serious. I'm like, no, it's actually really. As a reality TV star yourself, as someone who- Oh, I love that one. Oh, sorry.

I have to tell you a story about Ekansu. Did that hurt? No, I love it. No, she just orgasmed over here. One time, which please cut this. I feel like I have to tell you. Do you have to cut it? Well, I don't know.

You don't have to, but it's like, maybe one of like top, I'm like, leave it in. We're like, oh, that's boring. You cut it out. I know it's a twerk. No, but like I just like whatever is so embarrassing. I was in a hotel. We were about to film Rachel's breakup with Tino.

So I had just gotten off a plane and I was like at a hotel bar by myself. You know how hotel bars are like a trap. It's like you think the alcohol doesn't count. So I was like by myself, like getting kind of drunk. And I just watched Ekansu's season of Love Island. And I loved her because she brought the drama. She was like, I'm an actress. She has so many good one liners.

And they're these British people sitting next to me. So naturally, I think they're all like Love Island. So I like kind of fangirled over them. They were like 18. And I was like, Oh my God, I love Love Island. I love your accent. Me having no idea what to say to British people. And they're like, you kind of look like I can sue. And I was like, drunk. I was, you know, I was like, I am a reality TV star myself. No, it's so embarrassing. What did they say? I i don't know but they took the bait left no they loved it one still follows me on instagram i'm like why would i do that but i was in like a like a different dimension and i i was just like really feeling myself i was alone i was trying

something different and then the next morning i woke up and i ashamed riddled with shame and like a producer picked me up with rachel and was like, you guys, I'm the most embarrassing person on the planet. I have to tell you what happened. So now Rachel gives me shit all the time. But I like it when somebody else says it. If you call me a reality TV star, it's fine. So, as a reality TV star. Thank you.

Did you have any specific feelings or emotions on the Monica running a trolling account? You know, because in our world, we have been all of us. I mean, I don't know any personal stories, but I'm assuming you've been victimized by some victim, some anonymous bachelor account. I know you're a fan favorite in general, but they all thank you. account i know you're a fan favorite in general but they all thank you and to find out like imagine finding out some bachelor fan account is run by people on the inside yeah like a yeah like if it was yeah or uh like dan yeah i know i don't who else could it be you have to say a

different name you guys. I know. Yeah. Why? Because she's like down bad right now. Because she's called Nick a misogynist. Oh, come on, Nick. Come on. Stop being a misogynist.

It's ran by Clayton. Okay. Yeah. It could be run. Yeah. It's run by Clayton. I think like, yeah, if it was a man, I could easily hate her. But I think there's something about like being a woman that I just naturally want to empathize with.

But Monica. Yeah, I know. I'm not really you guys. Come on. Let me hear me out. Like it's a little too much of a feminist. Yeah, literally. No wrong.

But OK, this is insane. OK, so on Bachelor, whatever, you're like after night one, taking a van to the mansion for the first day. Like it's kind of when you get to meet the other girls. And there is some girls on the bus who were like, I've been watching The Bachelor forever. I know how to win. Like I know what to do. Like kind of saying I'm like me. I'm just like blacked out my own anxiety. You know, I'm like, the fuck is happening? And like I had never really watched the show before before so I didn't wasn't really like taking it in and I'm like oh god this is kind of crazy so I feel like there are people like that like on The Bachelor but they kind of get found out pretty quickly because if you're like not genuine and you are trying to play a game I think like the camera is a mirror so it comes out but I guess that's different because it's like she wasn't like these people weren't trying to like like would attack me or like dragged me online personally

you know and like kind of was a source of pain I guess but I guess moving forward it's like how could anyone trust her so I don't know what casting is going to be like but I wouldn't I'm like she's down bad she's obviously like needs she's looking for somewhere to fit in she was like excommunicated from the church and then tried so hard to get back in and is like so emotional around it so this just kind of screams like she wants

a place to fit in and she's going about it the complete wrong way like I feel like she's just kind of naive do you think she's going about it the complete wrong way. Like, I feel like she's just kind of naive. Do you think she's naive? In the world. Yeah. Just in life.

Yeah, just in life. I wouldn't call her naive. I would call her smart and clever. I don't think she's smart. Well, Heather accuses her of, like, becoming Jen Shaw's assistant just to get on the show. Well, she admitted it on that voice memo. So she has some forward thinking.

Yeah, but it's like, who would actually do that? It's like anybody who's kind of successful in their own career, you don't rest on other people. You're like, this is what I want to do. This is how I can do it. I'm going to make my own money. Like her kind of giving up on her business. It's like, she's just not committed

to one thing as a person. And she wants this fame and fortune. Everybody does. And being in Salt Lake City, it's like, what else is there? So I'm sure she's kind of just enamored with it and a fangirl. Yeah, she's an obsessed fan. Yeah. Who got access to this world and used her mentals to get on the show rather than...

I just think she's just a girl. She's just a girl. She's just a girl. But no, I hear you. I think she has some... I'm like, she just needs therapy. Because my dream, not really dream. I know like the other cast members probably like cannot trust her.

I don't know what her future is. I don't like think I think what she did is obviously fucked up. But it's like if she has a story arc and can grow from this probably no chance outside of the show. That would be my hope for her. There's no way she's coming back for season five. Do you, do you don't think she's like, she's leaning into the whole,

I know photo shoots. Now her Instagram is like unhinged. It's like, who are your people? I'm always like, who's your team? Your team is letting you might be coming back though. So I think I was telling you,

so Whitney, one thing, Whitney, Meredith and Mary all followed her back after the reunion. So it's like there's speculation that she's going to form an alliance with those three and then come back season five. Why would Whitney... We don't know.

So it's alluding that something in part two and three happens that they sympathize or who knows what. Which I feel like that's not surprising to me of Whitney. It is of Meredith because I feel like she doesn't trust anyone and like mary just is like yeah she wasn't married like why why why isn't mary on the full reunion i don't understand why would they because she cannot stick to a schedule i'm sure she's just probably hard to work with she ditched the last reunion that she was supposed to be a part of she just didn't show she didn't want to because i think she was like under a lot of flack so she's like i don't want to be part of it so i think

they're just like well you can get one part then imagine like that's the bravo goal yeah so well financially independent which i'm assuming mary is uh and so kind of the lulu and like out like just in your own fucking world that like you just come and go as you fucking please you skip scenes go to the drive-thru at mcdonald's no literally and bravo is just like and i'll take it's worth it we'll take what we can get i'm and i'm as as an audience member i'll take what i can get of mary too it's like honestly less is more for her i would agree she's good yeah yeah she is good tv that's really i mean she's the ultimate Bravo character. She's almost untouchable. Yeah.

Did you watch Beverly Hills? Yeah. The most recent episode? Yeah. It was fun. It was slow. Very slow. The past couple episodes have been kind of like.

Yeah, it's like the same drama, which isn't really drama. It's like, you know, they're going to make up. But it's also like the game they played at the wine tasting. Yeah. I'm like, what? Like, first of all, Sutton, why are you like licking Kyle's foot and then putting your tongue down Dorit's mouth? But then you have a problem with Kyle asking if she would ever date a woman. It's like, yeah, it has to be on Sutton's terms.

Like if it's not her idea, she doesn't want to do it. It has to be on Sutton's terms. Yeah. Do you think her and Morgan Wade had a little moment? I think that Kyle, I feel like Kyle's fun. And I feel like she's kind of maybe having a midlife crisis with like, not even a crisis, but I feel like she's open-minded. Stuff is going on.

Like I gave it to you with Mauricio. She, she's always kind of like put people on it's like um Justin I forget his last name yes her who's been on the beginning now he's a host on e she he was her assistant she's always kind of like been down with like I feel like helping people so I feel like she made a friend in Morgan and and she's like naturally when you have like a friend who bats for the other team, you're like curious about it. Speaking from experience. So I think it's like just kind of opening up her mind a little bit. And like the age difference between Morgan and Kyle is like jarring.

Morgan's in her like late 20s. Yeah, I know. So I don't know. How old is Kyle? 55. I think Morgan's in her like late 20s. Yeah, I know. So I don't know.

How old's Kyle? 55. So like, I don't think they're like actually a thing, but I think they're definitely teasing it as such. But I feel like Kyle's just kind of like found a friend in her and is like putting her on because obviously Morgan's getting paid to be on the show. You'd have to be. Right. Has to be.

Yeah. And also, I feel like it's definitely lifted her career. Totally. Being talked about so much with Kyle Richards. Yeah. For sure, richards yeah yeah so i don't think it's that deep it's like i would love an ally especially in kyle rich like kyle richards like a rich hot housewife truly who like don't take no shit to be a lesbian but it's like oh i just don't think it's in the stars for us what did you think of um pk telling dore telling Dorit that her PTSD is sometimes delusional? It's like, just don't go there, PK.

Like, can you not? It's like her house was broken into. You were gone. A gun was out. Like, with her kids in the house. Sorry, but how do you recover? Right. And he's like always in London still.

Always traveling. It's like always in london still he's traveling it's like are you actually okay like i'm watching those scenes and i'm thinking he must be like hating that he has to do any of this yeah but like secretly loves it because he shows up in a sweater like i'm here for her couples therapy yeah why do they even those couples therapies annoy the shit out of me because they're're clearly not real. No, like my therapist is a grandma. And she acts as such. And I love her for that. A therapist wouldn't be allowed to have a therapy session.

On the show. On the show. Unless it's couples therapy. Have you guys seen it? On Showtime? No. It's so good. Really?

Yeah, it's so good. Is that real? Yeah. Is that real? It's reality TV, bitch. Yeah, well, it's on Showtime. And it's more like docu, kind of docu. I followed the first season's the best, obviously,

because nobody knew what they were getting themselves into. Right. So, like, I'm sure they sign waivers and HIPAA and stuff, but the, the therapist is insane. Incredible. And I would say my therapist is better. And she's like 80 years old.

Wow. She's not that old. Sorry. I hope she doesn't listen. You're my girl though. I know. Dr. Revan.

Oh my God. Doctor. Yeah. Wow. She's. Oh my God. Doctor. Yeah. Wow. She's legit. But it's like, that's how I like my therapist to be not like some like housewife adjacent. You know,

ours is so Nick and I have the same therapist, Darlene. And then our couples therapist is her husband. Oh my God. I love that. So we're like, I wonder if they talk about us at dinner. A hundred percent.

Yeah. I'm like, we love them. They're our favorite couple. We invited him to our wedding. Oh my God, I love that. So we're like, I wonder if they talk about us at dinner. A hundred percent. Yeah. I'm like, we love them. They're our favorite couple. We invited them to our wedding. Oh my God, did you? Well, yeah, of course. No, obviously. We had to.

Because it's like, they know you in such an intimate sense. They're like the puppet masters of our lives, to be honest. Yeah. Truly. No, I love that. Yeah, I do too. But yeah, no, I think that was pretty fucked up of PK. Yeah, I would agree

I'm not the biggest fan of him yeah what do you think about him and Kyle being so close PK and Kyle yeah

do you think there's something no I just know like if Robbie should not be texting any of my friends point blank

period ever ever don't even think about it unless you're arranging a birthday cake or a ring bitch literally yeah unless i'm the subject you guys shouldn't be texting i think

they're just like friends whatever who knows it's like it's so incestual but no i don't think there's anything there were rumors last season that mauricio and pk were wife swapping oh dead they like shut it down, but yeah. Well, it's like Mauricio's so hot that it's like Kyle can't go to PK, sorry, but it's like his personality. He's a personality hire. Funny. I kind of hate that they're divorcing, but whatever.

Are they divorcing? I don't know. She said that on the red carpet. What a way to drop a bomb. She slipped up. She's like... But then and then she slipped up what a way to drop a bomb she like slipped up she's like but then they kind of were recently hanging out in Aspen

well I think they spend holidays together I'm sure for the kids you know they seem like a very like put the kids first yeah I feel like that's why

they were together for so long yeah but he is Mauricio? Mo is Mo is a good looking cat yeah do you guys want to talk about it no no no we don't need to talk about it um but kyle did talk about how he likes and follows back every woman on social media

oh yeah that's problematic problematic follows anyone follows them and well if they're like i mean not anyone like a, why are you following back strangers and why are you liking their photos? What are you doing? Boys are so stupid with that. No, it's like the easiest way to find them out. They sell themselves out. You just go to their following and it's all Insta models. It's like,

literally, what are you doing? Right. Just don't follow them and at least just search by their name. And then delete that you searched their name. Right. Yeah. Like, don't leave any evidence. Like, I'm on your team. I just don't want to see. Are you stupid?

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I mean, I think it might be a better season than the rest just because I think Joey is actually giving Bachelor. Yeah. I think the girls are going to go feral for him. Yeah, he's actually cute and charismatic and charming and I think

he'll be great, but I don't know how good TV he'll be. What fascinated me is there are two sisters this season. Not twins though, but sisters? Sisters. They've done the twins thing before. I've got before. Who are the sisters? Well, the first one was at the top of the list.

So it's Allison and Lauren from Philadelphia. Oh, let's see. Can we get our sister? Do they look alike? Oh, they do look alike. Okay, so Lauren's older. How old's Joey? Allison's sister.

It's like, what's the point, though? Of having sisters? Yeah. So it's 20 and 26? Allison's sister it's like what's the point though of having sisters? yeah so it's 28 and 26 Allison's 26 I mean I guess the point is the no 26 and 28 cause like one why would the sisters kind of want to go on and compete for the same guy and two

okay done period yeah but the twins on our season ended devastatingly And two. Okay. Done. Period. Yeah. But the twins on our season ended devastatingly quickly. You had twins on your season? You guys. Yeah. They went home on the first night.

Both of them? Yes. Because they were so, like, their identity was, like, being twins. They were like, we can read each other's minds. Guys, you remember this because it was first night. I know. I don't remember. And he was looking at Gabby.

Yeah. And he was like, gabby yeah and he was like you you and rachel probably have the same like telepathy that we do and gabby was like well we're not twins so i was like we didn't share a womb and then they made it into a meme but they like photoshopped a gun into my can we bring up their image i don't remember them like at all no because they went home on the first night but They went to paradise. Yeah. They did? Huh? Yeah.

The baby twins, guys. They're from New Jersey. They're like 21. Oh. I forget their names. I thought you were talking about when you were the bachelorette. I was. This is when she was the bachelorette.

I thought you met on Clayton season. But when she was the bachelorette, those two little Italian. Sorry. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant the guys yeah i remember joey and justin yes yes those guys yeah i was thinking it's like production was like oh we'll really get them with the twins yeah like one will date one it's like no not really it just feels way too incestual and not, I feel like you can't break out of like the sister romance, like relationship

to then progress into romance. But maybe it's like Freudian. I'm super into both of them. Yeah. It's like all of his wildest like dreams coming true. He takes both of them to the fantasy suite. No, this is giving a little bit like, yeah. Do you think the two sisters would go or do you think they would?

Oh, for sure. I'm dead. For sure. If you and your sister were out, do you have sisters? Yes, I do. And if you were on The Bachelor? Yeah. No, no, no.

You would send yourself home. I'd send her home. No, but if your sister was just like, no, I'm into them. Like, I'm going all the way. And you were in the final. It's top six. Week before hometowns. But then, say he does go to Fantasy Suites.

And then he sends your sister home. But then he fucked your sister. Right. Yuck. I bet you'd be like, yuck. Saves on travel costs for hometowns. Yeah. A twofer.

A twofer. I don't know. This is all getting very Freudian. As a bachelorette, you probably would have enjoyed saving a week of hometowns filming. What do you mean? Oh, yeah. No, because I did. I only took three for that.

Yeah. I was like, you guys are going to be blacked out during your season. No, please. No, that's okay. It's all the same. So long ago.

It was. I'm washed up and I'm trying to stay relevant. I'm washed up and lesbian. Now, what do you want from me? Sorry. Who else do we have on this roster? I mean,

what are like, I think. Are there 30? Whoever's doing their headshots are doing great there's 32 holy shit wow why why is the number going up my favorite is autumn autumn's fun facts so she's number two on the list her fun facts spontaneously got a lip tattoo at a music festival autumn doesn't understand why going through TSA takes so long. Autumn loves to get rowdy while watching college football.

It's like, are these writers who are doing the biographies, like, trying to make women sound dumb on purpose? Right? Like, you don't understand why TSA is so long because they're checking for guns and bombs. And drugs up your butt. Drugs up your butt. So get PreCheck and smuggle. That's not a writer writing that. She must have said it.

No, the producers, they're like, what do you want? And then they write it. But even like Chandler's, the next one. Chandler once gave herself bangs. Chandler loves a good Sunday fun day. Yeah, it's like, are we regressing? Chandler is seriously afraid of lightning. We're regressing as a society.

Once gave herself bangs is one of her like, who hasn't? The ones up here. One time Megan played with a rubber band. You know, it's like, okay. Right, I know. It's like, come on. And we know that on The Bachelor seasons,

the women carry the season. Like our cast on Clayton's season, they were so smart, so acclaimed. RMBSM, baby. I'm unregistered now. Marlena was an Olympian.

It's like, we're not stupid. Why are they trying to do this? But whatever. That's interesting. What was your facts? You remember? I think I'm afraid of humpback whales or something. trying to do this but whatever that's interesting what was your facts you remember uh yeah probably i think like i'm afraid of humpback whales or something so like yeah this may be way before my time how does what do they do now in like the leading up like they they just kind of ask you like what you're what you want your bio to be and then you type up something and then send it in and

they put it in this like bulleted form it's like i would have it i have gabby's okay yeah let's hear it gabby is much more than meets the eye not only is she beautiful but she also has a lot of substance emotional depth and a wealth of lived experiences gabby's a lesbian now with quiet confidence and she doesn't have a physical type but says that if he doesn't have a personality that it's a hard pass her ideal man will challenge her communicate his feelings and work hard to equally carry the weight of the relationship why i'm dating girls now gabby whatever man captures gabby's heart must also have room in her life for her four-legged friend because she and her golden doodle le are a package deal. Which we're not. I would ditch his ass in a second. While Gabby would love to find a man,

she isn't the type to lose herself in a relationship. She's hoping to find a man who will love her for the independent woman she is. Wait, so that's pretty good. Yeah, see, that was good. It sounds like you do have creative control over what is said. But where are your facts? Where are your, like, afraid of humpback? Oh, they're right here.

Okay. Gabby is terrified of humpback here okay gabby is terrified of humpback whales but would love to see one in person from a safe distance literally for good reason to write cards stopping grapes in italy is at the top of gabby's bucket list which i did it in france so when you say you're afraid of humpback whales like i would be afraid of one if i was swimming next to them because they're massive creatures they're literally as old as dinosaurs and they're so fucking big and can swallow you whole. It's like everybody should be afraid of humpback whales.

They're phenomenal. Yeah, if you're in like... I'm afraid of butterflies. Pussy? Pussy? I got a pussy. I am a pussy, bitch. No, I am. Have you ever seen that Spongebob episode no oh my god this is gonna age me i'm so old spongebob episode you know okay traumas and fears start at a young age

yeah obviously childhood psychologist doctor Dr. Natalie. And I was watching a SpongeBob episode, and it was where they had the caterpillar, and then obviously turned into a butterfly, and it took over the bikini bottom, because they're like, what the fuck is this butterfly underwater? And they showed a face, the close-up of this butterfly's face.

And have you ever seen a close-up of a butterfly? No, but I think they're meant to be seen from a distance on purpose. I like hearing a close-up of a butterfly. I was going to pull it up. A butterfly's face, their wings. Terrifying. Oh, my God. Ew.

Terrifying. So I'll let y'all look at that. And good luck with the fear for the rest of your life. Oh, stop. Scary. Oh, you stop. What's up? It looks like a fly. That, stop. Scary. Oh, you stop. What's up with that?

It looks like a fly. That's creepy. It's getting alien. Also, trypophobia. Trypophobia. What's that? Clusters of holes. Trypophobia.

You guys figure this out. I'm going to pee. Trypophobia. Okay. We just take over the rest of the episode. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. What else?

Welcome to our pod. I'd just like to apologize for everything I said in the past and everything in the future. I'm sorry for who I am as a person. I hope you can forgive me. Please. I mean, no harm. What are your other fears? Like everything.

Men. Literally men. Like, please. I know you're looking at me funny listen i moved to new york at 15 shut up myself and natalie she has a past oh my god and listen who let you go by yourself my mother okay and to this, she'll be like, no, so I lived in Harlem myself at 15. Natalie, what the fuck? And I had never left the South before. And so no one told me that, like, when you get cat called by men, you don't.

So what are you saying? Thank you. Thank you so much. I hope you have the best day. I'm like, we're going to rob that bitch. And that's why I got mugged so many times you got mugged? a lot of times because I just was like oh they're being so nice

like I'll be nice back you're like what you want I'm like oh my house is down here if you want to come in and I use the bathroom you're like keeping the robbers afloat. You're like their friend. Yeah.

I remember they stole my purse one time and I was like, I have no money on those cards. Literally. You're like, I've maxed them out for you. Sure. You're not going to get anything.

No. Oh my God. That's, wait, how did you live there when you were 15? I lived in, I was, I moved there to be a model.

Okay. So I dropped out of high school hot chic chic and get robbed every five seconds it's funny around i have to come home because i have literally no money left yeah it's been like wait how long were you there two years did you have like like um you know somebody to take care of you like an agent mama i had like uh an agency and a manager like a mother okay and then i a mother agency and i lived in a models ish apartment but it was just a studio apartment in harlem and we had a futon them putting you in harlem is so fucking ridiculous 141st in amsterdam it was honestly so scary oh my god you drive past that place

actually I want to go back all the time me and Nick go to New York all the time and I'm like we should go back but then it's so far up it's a long way

you're like actually wait have you seen the supermodels on Apple TV no go home and watch it go home

what is that it's like you would really relate what is it it's about all the top supermodels of the 90s um christy turlington naomi campbell uh cindy crawford and linda evangelista and like their whatever kind of coming into themselves coming to fame how they were treated in the night yeah yeah it's sick and disturbing and i was definitely me and naomi campbell are pretty close neck and neck oh yeah in our career you are naomi in our career yeah are you watching miami housewives yes i love uh miami people have

said maybe is that's like the next step oh so i'm like Potomac is what people are saying is the next Salt Lake. Do you watch Potomac? No, but I would. Well, I want to like I want to go back. So I like watching the old I'm like all caught up in Miami. So now I'm going back to the old seasons because they have quite a history. I love a mob history like New Jersey. So they like husbands were like in jail for doing the drug thing and like all this sketchy shit their

original seasons were like seven eight years ago miami's yeah so it's all new cast no because then they came back and like you see larsa before larsa was og um larsa marisol lexia maybe yeah i think she came in later uh her mark is up the article about her and her Marcus talking about having sex? It was something she said like at a reunion and now people are running with it. I think it was. Oh, she said it. This isn't even like current news. No, they're just now relating it to her boyfriend. Which like, what do you guys think about that?

Five times a day. I mean, it's weird. I don't know about her dating. Well, so she used to be. And is her last name still Pippin? Yeah. So she's kept Scotty's last name. Which who wouldn't?

Same. Yeah. Claim to fame. And then left him for Michael Jordan's son. Did she leave him for? I don't know if she left him for it. But now she's dating Michael Jordan's son. Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippin famously played for each other.

And now they're. They don't seem to be friends now. I don't Scottie Pippen famously played for each other. And now they're right. You don't seem to be friends now. I don't know if it has anything to do with that part. Well, well. So on Watch What Happens Live, she said, I also have sex probably five times a night with the love of my life. Way more than three times. Well, it's not way more. It's just two more.

No, she's saying she has five times a night more than she has sex three times a night is how I read that. So I have sex probably. I think she's literally counting the amount of times she has sex, she has five times a night more than she has sex three times a night. Is how I read that. So I have sex probably. I think she's literally counting the amount of times she has sex, which is five times. Yeah. But we know Larsa. Yeah. She embellishes. She also said that her her butt was real on a reunion.

Andy Cohen was like, so you're denying all anything like you were given. And then it does a flashback to her original season where she has like a pancake ass. She's got her own blast. I know Bravo's dirty like that. So dirty. Don't lie on reality. That's the number one golden rule of reality TV is do not lie

on camera. That's the one thing. I feel like I'm missing like, I don't know, New Jersey's. Do you watch New Jersey? We watch a little bit. I love, like, I don't know, New Jersey's. Do you watch New Jersey? We watch a little bit. I love, well, I don't love her, but Jennifer, Jen, you know, I feel like she will call herself out in her interviews. Like when she's caught in a lie, she'll admit it.

And it's funny to like kind of have an in. Are you saying the new season? No, I think last season. Jen Fessler? Yes. Okay. Yeah, which she's messy and like whatever. But I want more of that.

Like I want them to be a little more honest in their interviews about the times that they've like fucked up or are lying for no reason. Because they know they're going to get a rewind black and white play of what you did four years ago, what you said four years ago. Totally. Just be like, I just kind of lied. Sorry. I thought I was going to get away with it.

It's like that's like the premise of the show. Kyle Richards said that's a years ago. Totally. Just be like, I just kind of lied. Sorry. I thought I was going to get away with it. It's like, that's like the premise of the show. Kyle Richards said, that's a rookie mistake. Yeah. I mean, her and Teresa still going strong as like the two OG from season one. Oh yeah.

Haven't stopped. Teresa, yeah. Literally. Pretty iconic. I was on Dancing with the Stars with Teresa. She didn't give a fuck about me. Really?

And I like fangirled over her because I love well now now she does I'm like I don't make up for it but she loved Val so every time she would talk to me it'd be like to get close to Val and then she'd be like will you take a picture of me and Val and I'm like definitely but now you're like a selfie or yeah right I'm like no but i love you you didn't know who you were i will say that's one of my favorite interactions to see and witness is two reality tv stars where one of the stars knows and is a fan of the other and then the other person hopes or assumes that that person also knows them, but that doesn't happen. And it's such a really

messy, amazing moment to witness because of the ego involved in the reality TV stars who like, like think they, the other person should know them, but if they're just like not a fan or if they don't watch like their programming, it's like an epic. Oh, I automatically assume nobody knows who I am. Sure. That's smart. But i am sure that's smart but a lot of people there's a lot of people in this space who aren't quite right as self-aware yeah i know i was kind of i think we were having a conversation about this last night it's like people just like being in la with like different degrees of like famousness and then people like don't know how to interact with other people like being like oh you should know who i am it's like i don't know did you you didn't win dancing with the stars girl i lost to who to

charlie d'amelio famously it's my whole identity i'm a loser are you second yeah i was second and she won yeah but second nobody cares second's the first loser true yeah yeah but it's like i'm a better loser it's better for my brand it hurt um for a second yeah i like had a breakdown like the press was coming in after and i was like crying but i didn't want to cry on camera so our showrunner came by and i was like literally crying behind his belly and nobody knew what to do val's like come on it's gonna be okay like doesn't know how to comfort me. If you see Charlie, is it awkward? Oh my God, no. I was never going to win.

Everybody who told me I had a chance was literally lying to my face. They were. They were praying for your downfall. Yeah, I know. For so many reasons. One time I had a friend kind of tell me, like, Charlie's answer was really good. I'm like, are you loyal? Like, are you actually okay? I need you to lie to me. Yeah, but then like re-watching it, I'm like, okay, well, that was just like, are you loyal? Or like, are you actually okay? I need you to lie to me.

Yeah. Yeah. But then like rewatching it, I'm like, okay, well, that was just like. You rewatched it? Like, no, just the clips. All of it. Every second. It's my bedtime show.

I love watching myself on TV doing the Samba. What show? What other show would you go on oh i know i don't know because i feel like i am best in a dating space okay period okay so i don't know maybe you could just take a pause in the old relationship yeah oh lesbians don't do that sorry there's no breaks yeah there's no breaks only you halls yeah literally i'm like we're straight to marriage but um but i don't know people have asked me like what i thought about traitors like i've like kind of been asked to go on and i'm like i don't know if i'm as strategic like heaven forbid i'm the murderer i can't keep a secret and you can be

like oh yeah you can see it all over my face oh sorry i killed them at breakfast the next day she's like guys i did something really bad last night okay like i murdered him yeah like still keep me on the island i won't do it again i promise so traitors do special forces fuck no literally hell no never no yeah is there a housewife program that you would want to be a part of like which housewives all of them no but if anyone that could take me um which one would you fit in the most well just well i feel like because new york because they like recast it and there's some young ones on there. But I think like in my 50s, I would like maybe Beverly Hills.

But also that is a different kind of like fame, like having Hilton adjacent like Kyle Richards is like, whoa. So I would probably Miami. They're a little bit like slow to grow and like nobody kind of knows who they are yeah do you have a dream cast for like ultimate girls trip like if you got to pick the girls who would you put together i don't watch ultimate girls trip but i but based on that i think let me see theresa judas jen fessler um i love marisol i love lisa ho Hochstein. Who's my favorite in Beverly Hills? I don't know.

Denise Richards. She's good. Messy. Yeah, she's such good TV. I'm like, she's kind of iconic. Yeah. Because she'll make eye contact with the camera. Like when she's crossfaded. My jacket's upside down. I'm like, okay. Okay, she's staring to my soul yeah what about anybody else my dream beverly hills cast is like camille denise i love camille same kyle um i know kim no kim kim oh yeah kim over kathy t kim over kathy because she's just so like

unhinged i'm watching the second season right now have you seen it a long time ago oh is that that you stole my house or whatever it is no it's like how much maybe this is a sensitive subject but it's the episode where she's like always going into the bathroom. Yikes. Yeah. I'm like, that was a different age in TV. Yeah, no, it was. Yeah. They would just like air that.

But also it's like kind of her personality. Like she's not much different now. No. She's like. Is she sober? Do we know? She went to rehab. Okay.

So I don't think it's commented on anymore. That's kind of the reason she left because she didn't want to have all that spotlighted which i respect that and i love when she comes in like for like a little cameo brandy glanville was fun for what she gave yeah but i don't know if she could give any more yeah Yeah. Isn't she on OC now or no? I'm thinking of someone different now. That's Taylor Armstrong. Okay. Okay.

Taylor, yeah. Brandi's not on anything right now. Well, she could have been, but Ultimate Girl Trip. That got canceled. That got canceled. Or, yeah, that's in the air. Because of her. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Wow. Yeah. So, you're in love. Yes. Oh, my God.

That's so sweet. No, that is so sweet. I love seeing your content together. Oh, my God. Thank you. So y'all live together? Not yet, but we're actively working on it. I know.

Now it's becoming a thing. It's like, okay, she doesn't want to move into my place because it doesn't have a view everybody who walks into my apartment it's like this is so cute i'm like thanks robbie hates it thanks she literally hates yeah she hates it and it's like so cute i've been working so hard on it but she's like we like have to live together because she has a cat and i have a dog so she's just always at my place neglecting the cat and I love the cat but we need does Nardo not love the cat he does a little too much if you know what I mean yeah literally yeah okay so they need to be like introduced and acclimated appropriately

but I feel like it's just going to take so much time so it's like kind of stressful it's like babe I can't keep taking groceries to your house. Like this is getting exhausting. Do you ever stay at her place or is it mostly at your? Mostly she's at mine, but I feel bad because when I go to her place, I'm like, I don't know how you live. Where are your cups? Yeah, literally. There's like clothes like strewn and I'm like, where are your cups? Yeah, literally. There's like clothes like strewn. And I'm like, where have you been?

It's like, you know, I want us to have like a shared space. So we are kind of loosely looking. I know it'll be my third move in a year. I was going to say, you're going to uproot everything you've just put into this. Literally. Because you don't have a view. Because I don't have a view. She's so particular with the view.

What kind of view are we looking for? Over the Silver Lake Res. Oh. Particular. Particular. So we know where we're going. A certain view. Yeah.

I know. So we'll see. But no, it's been fun. Oh my gosh. I love that. So you're getting married. I think so. Okay, perfect.

You're pregnant. I am pregnant. Amazing.'re getting married? I think so. Okay, perfect. You're pregnant? I am pregnant. Amazing. Yeah. Immaculate conception. The gay Virgin Mary. And I might be getting a puppy today. What?

I know. Have you guys heard of Yogi's house? No. Is this like a- Sorry, all I know is Vanderpump dogs. What the fuck is Yogi house? Well, Yogi's house is hot on their heels. They're like whatever on Instagram. And then they post all these reallyump dogs. What the fuck is Yogi House? Well, Yogi's house is hot on their heels. They're like whatever on Instagram. And then they

post all these really cute dogs. And I'm like, I just like want a little black dog. It's coming over at four. Do you have a stop? Yeah. Well, its name is Jagger. So I'm like, gotta get a new one. Yeah. Do you have a photo? Yeah. It's a little black poodle. So it's so okay.

So we're going same-ish breed yeah because i'm familiar with poodles she is gonna flip shit is she full poodle i think so but it's like a rescue i'll literally be a savior is on the euthanasia list i know i know this cute ass dog i'm like what do these euthanasians have a fucking heart? Truly. Clearly not. Clearly not. So what, you just saw him on Instagram and you DMed him and was like, I want this dog. Yeah. I've been thinking about it for a while. And it's like, I work from home, but it's going to be a thing.

I don't know how I'm going to break it to Robbie. She's going to freak out. She's not supportive. We, you know, we got a second dog and it was stopped. I know. Just hello. I know. It's a boy. Yeah. He doesn't say his breath stinks. I know. Just hello. I know. Is it a boy? Yeah.

He looks like his breath stinks. I love stinky breath. I love stinky breath. Is he on dogs or people? Both. Oh, cutie. He's small. I know. I want a small one because I feel like I need a small dog. I know he's kind of

ugly. He needs a face wash. He does he does i know cute yeah so that's really what's going on it's like i think i'm just like you know in a happy relationship so i need to stir it up truly you need some drama yeah i do i kind of think like that sometimes too i'm like wow we're really like happy and healthy right how can i like fuck things up a little i just stir the pot just a little bit sometimes yeah i think it's a thing it's harmless it's harmless like sue me right literally yeah i'm giving this dog a home what are you gonna say now there's reports that taylor and tra are going to get married this summer.

No, they're not. They're not. Why does media keep trying to insist that Taylor and Travis... They're going to break them up. They're putting too much pressure on them. They're going to break them up. I heard from an inside source. Everybody thinks they're an inside source. But I think it's from Kelly, her best friend, Kelly Teller, the one that was at the Golden Globes with her, that they are very serious.

And he's like so in on her and that it's true. And I feel like he was like, I want to have her babies. I'm like, damn. He wants to have her babies. It's true. Well, my source. He's got a uterus. I haven't asked my source about this new marriage engagement rumor

but everything i've heard from my friend is that the feedback is like normal which is they just fucking started dating like everyone needs to chill out the media has been so wrong about them yeah just like even though taylor and travis like aren't normal people because they're ultra celebrities like i think their desire to have a normal relationship, you know, like what they do isn't normal, but they are normal. You know what I'm saying?

They're normal people who like, I think want to have a normal relationship. Yeah. That's what I hear. And like, I'm sure there's an, like an excitement behind them. And I don't doubt that they are really into each other.

And I don't doubt like, like a lot of happy newly dating couples will do the whole like talk about the future and talk about having kids someday literally me right now we're gonna get my arena yeah but i don't know if they like they're like this idea that they're telling all their friends and each other that they're gonna plan on getting who does that no one's just like yeah we're gonna get we're gonna engage this summer you know like people don't do that and i just don't think taylor and travis are out there doing that with each other and then subsequently telling their friends who are all these sources depressed i i just don't yeah like could they get

engaged this summer i don't know i guess anything's possible but i don't what i don't think is happening is that they are planning on it yeah well you've never been around lesbians what does it have to do with taylor and travis because they're pretty much lesbians and they will be like we are getting engaged this summer you know like it fully is a thing fast and they could be it's like you know you've met couples that are just like like the guys kind of like but the last I heard was like they are whatever long distance

all the time it's like I feel like the season needs to end and they need to spend some actual time together that's probably true it could be good or bad too

right exactly when is the season over when is he done as soon as they lose if they win the Super Bowl it will be like February they're not gonna

14th or 15th probably not I don't think they would and my professional football experience i do not think okay joe buck fire joe berry thank you babe wait what do we think about kylie and timothy chalamet okay did you i'm a famous lip reader oh i don't know if you're not but you love me so much i'm like i don't know no so she and timothy are sitting and they're like it's when they're kissing and

everyone's like oh my god thank you yeah he said i love you i thought so too i care about you oh which matters more the i love you too I care about you oh which matters more the I love you or I care about you oh equally as important I feel like the I feel like the I care about you

is weirdly more special I don't know I feel like you haven't said you care about me in quite some time so is it there you go see

that's why cause like I love you I love you say it Nick say it right now I care about you okay now kiss yeah no it is like I love you okay love you too

yeah but i he's like i know but i care about you yeah you know yeah i love you sure yeah but care about it do you think it's real at first i was like no way because it just doesn't seem like each other's types but then they were i don't think you can fake that chemistry unless chris jenner's in her ear. Impractical jokers. Okay, now look him up and down. Now give him the eyes. Yes, yes. I don't know, but I thought they were really cute.

Have you seen his rap videos? No. Are they old that have resurfaced? What? Now he had a boyfriend who was trying to be a rapper. SoundCloud rapper. Ooh, we've all had one of those it wasn't terrible stuff oh really did he ever rap about you oh yeah oh my god let's hear it oh could you imagine come on terrible yikes i know you remember a line i honestly don't know

if i do if it was on i would be able to like repeat every word because he would be like every time we got in the car i'd'd be like, let's play my music. He'd be like, definitely. I love this, baby. You're so good. You're going places. Apparently, the director for Willy Wonka was like, I know I want Timothee Chalamet. And it was because I've seen videos of him rapping.

I'm fully dead. That's how he got the role. Well, I think it's just just like put him on the map is he rapping oh it's a musical right okay did have you guys seen it i have not okay i heard he's really good in it no i've heard good it's gotten good reviews it's done well yeah musicals like aren't my thing normally neither so is do you think it's because you can't sing so you can't appreciate how do you know i can't sing well just by the tone of your voice yeah you just i just don't feel like you can carry infamous vocal fry

yeah you just don't like talk like someone who can sing you know okay okay okay okay yeah probably that but catch me in the shower or some i can sing where i carry pretty good not here don't make me do you guys know anything about Suki Waterhouse? Love. Obsessed. So hot. She's pregnant. Twitter hates her.

Why? I don't know. Me spreading rumors. I like go down deep into Twitter of Robert Pattinson's like crazy fans. I guess so. Maybe. They used to date? They're dating right now.

She's pregnant and they're engaged. Yeah. Oh, that's his fiancee. No, I think she's so hot. Why do they hate her? I love her music. I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out to see what side I should be on.

Because I love her music. Obviously the woman. Oh, yeah. Duh. Who am I? Me on Monica's side for no reason. Literally, you're like, I love Monica, but Zuki Waterhouse. I know.

I don't know. I see myself in Monica a little bit. Like a little desk. Like a little Dess. Yeah, I'm not seeing anything pressing about why people wouldn't hate her. There was just one photo. I don't know. I'm not really explaining it. It was her and two other girls.

And I don't know. Everybody went in. But you know Twitter. It's like. What were they saying? She's like. I just got the vibe they didn't like her because they were like, we hate her. Listen, I think just anyone who has like Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Zac Efron, the people who like...

Yeah. Have these like cult fan bases. Yeah, of like they were a massive show years ago and now they're like grown up and starting lives. They're like, whoa, who is that wait you guys this might be a touchy subject i don't know if you want to talk about it but like apparently people are turning on gypsy roads too they are twitter you guys gotta get on twitter i can't i'm on twitter okay i don't know everyone's like like i'm not not surprised about that yeah they're more talking about the turning.

And what is it turning about? I think just like now people are more leaning in to like her kind of being an accomplice in a murder. People are just like now realizing. Instead of like a pop culture icon. They're like, wait, no, she actually. Well, why? I don't know. I think what we need to do as people, it's like the good people don't say enough on social media that is the problem and that's why we're like creating this toxic culture

yeah is because only these like the loud I feel like the loudest are just like the most hurtful but also kind of the most unpopular what duh what do you think of the gypsy of it all I think well it's like I've literally taken care of patients with munchausen's by proxy so oh yeah it's insane it's really crazy like you've taken care of the person with munchausen's by proxy or the person who is suffering at the hands of someone with the victim victim yeah after it's been revealed what do you mean well oh right because like yeah before gypsy she was going to the doctor all the time right you know for all these yeah yeah it's like in there's it just takes good social workers good medical team like people

to like really figure out and it's like you can do that in a hospital because you're at the hands of other people who are like okay do you really need this and then you slowly start uncovering things that's like oh wow i know yeah it's really crazy i'm not like whatever criminal justice major so i don't know about like the criminality of it all but like i know munchausen's by proxy is really devastating to me she did her time like i don't think anyone can be in a position where they could unless you you are another victim of Munchausen by proxy, to know what you would have done in that crazy environment. I was a little frustrated watching the act because and that was my first time really hearing about Gypsy's story was through that, which is obviously not a documentary. It's more of a loosely, you know, based on. And that show did make Nick, her boyfriend at the time,

who is autistic or who has Asperger's, made him come across more sympathetic because of autism. But like, they also left a lot of information out. Like it was in the documentary, you find out that Nick admitted to um trigger warning thinking about raping gypsy's mom as part of his plan to murder her you know and just kind of like said that and right so to me do i have sympathy that he has autism yes but clearly this is a

young man who got maybe even caught up in the wrong, maybe porn or whatever it was. But like he turned out to be a very dangerous person. And so do I have sympathy for what, you know, whatever ailment he has or mental disabilities that he has? Sure. But he's still incredibly dangerous. And to Gypsy's point, when she was on the show, here's this person being who's like, one day was like, hey, can you protect me from my mom? Like, could you kill her? And he's just like, yeah, no problem, got you.

And let's think about all the different scenarios as opposed to literally anyone else. And is it tragic that he is who he is? Sure, but he's clearly dangerous and clearly capable of doing very dangerous things. So I don't think he's safe to be in society where Gypsy, she seems pretty safe to me. And she seemed like someone who's put in the work and done her time.

And I, like I said before, I feel like she deserves the benefit of the doubt and at least a chance to show that she can be a part of this society that she was never going to have been a chance to be a part of. Yeah. I think, I mean,

I'm not an expert. Like this is like what up some like sick psychology and like things I've, you know, who knows, like criminal. I don't know. I'm just me. for a conversation to be had on social media. And like, I think more important, we have to talk about like how we are giving her rehab or therapy or like reintegrating her into society. It's like, yeah, she's kind of been popped out of jail and got like all this attention naturally because her case was so high profile. Anybody else that's like, who does her team consist of? She has publicists, but does she have anyone wondering, like, concerning her mental health

and is there, like, plans in place for that? It's like, everybody, we all want to make a buck. Yeah. You know? So, like, naturally, she would try and capitalize, like, on her case

because that's probably what everyone is telling her to do. I actually think it's illegal for her to make money off of her crime. In certain states. Okay, so she's not making any money? She wrote a book. I actually think it's illegal for her to make money off of her crime. In certain states. Okay. So she's not making any money? She wrote a book.

We have not read that book. I don't know what the book is about. It's like an audio book about her reflections, I think. So it's not necessarily about the crime. It's about her almost being in jail. So I don't know those laws very well. Right. It's above all of our heads. I don't know. None think I don't know those laws. Yeah. Very well. Right. It's above all of our heads.

I don't know. None of us are in the criminal justice field. But yeah, I don't know, but it's also not surprising that people are turning, you know, on her. It's just like,

first she's getting out and then it's a sensation. Then we get to hear interview. And then I think people are almost in a way disappointed that she came across as articulate as she did and as grounded as she came across i think people people like a circus well i think they almost wanted her and ryan to say bizarre things or come across in a way that we could you know have fun with but they didn't do that they sounded pretty grounded given the circumstances that they were in

and they sounded like two people who might make it work. The first time that she had a chance to get an education, I don't think her mom really cared about her getting an education before when she was too busy, whatever, munch houses by proxying her.

In prison, we know there's those resources. She got a GED. Her GED. Nice. Weird. She's a smart bitch. Yeah. Wait, you guys do talk about your wedding? Where is it? It's in a private estate in Georgia. Oh my god! Really?

Yeah. With like the peaches? No peaches. Just animals. Cute. Is that where you're from? We didn't invite you. No. Really? That's okay. I don't know. We had some issues with

people receiving their save the date. Several people have called Nick and been like, hey, good question. We never got to save the date. Are we invited? I don't take that shit personally. I'm like, honestly, would love to come, obviously. But it's like less responsibility on me, the better.

But it'll be so fun. Okay, I'm there. Okay, great. And our daughter will be there. Baby girl. Want me to babysit her i mean if you're free wouldn't mind it i just um we just chose our honeymoon spot where turks and cacos fuck yes have you ever been no okay neither of us oh my god are you bringing yes and we're

bringing her mom we have to bring my mom okay Okay, perfect. Because I was like, well, that's in an effort to have alone time. Yeah, right. Yeah. Because it's your honeymoon. Yeah. Yes. So my mom will be joining and she'll get her own room. And then I was like, you can just take her to the pool, to the beach.

Y'all can watch movies. Yeah, you can just get all the quality time. You can spend so much time with her. And my mom's like, you say this, but the second you hold that baby, you're not going to let anyone touch her. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah. Because I do have all these plans of like, I'm leaving. I'm gone, baby.

I'm a pusher out and I got I'm going toher out and I'm going to the gym. I'm going on trips. I'm going to Barry's boot camp. 10.50. I've got stuff to do. And the mom's like, you're going to hold her and you're going to be like, I'm leaving my house. She's mine. She's mine.

So we'll see how I hold up to all that. But fun. Good for you guys for having a honeymoon in place. Well, I definitely just want Nick was like, what if we circle back and do it? And I was like, that just feels like a trip. That doesn't feel like a honeymoon. You're not on the high. I was like, we're going having a honeymoon in place. Well, I definitely just want, Nick was like, what if we circle back and do it? Like, and I was like, that just feels like a trip. That doesn't feel like a honeymoon.

You're not on the high. I was like, we're going on a honeymoon. No, totally. We haven't booked yet. So if there's any like cool, uh,

Kirk's and Taiko hotels out there. Kirk's and Taiko. Whatever it's called. I'm dyslexic. Yeah. We haven't selected a hotel yet. Oh my God. Let me know all the recs.

Of anything. I was looking at the Ritz Carlton. Cause I was. Let me know all the recs. Of anything. I was looking at the Ritz Carlton. Because I was like, the Ritz in Turks and Caicos. Literally. This sounds magical. Yeah. And then I was reading the reviews and it was like, this hotel does not give Ritz. It gives Stazen.

And then I was looking at the- It gives Motel 6. I'm like, perfect. My favorite. Yeah. But at the price of a Ritz Carlton so it's like $2,000 a night

no for just like a basic can you imagine it's like what are people up to yeah well I don't even want to stay there

I'm like this sorry boring boring we'll go there and get a massage but yeah

you know are you gonna like snor going to like snorkel? Is it snorkel season? I don't know. But because I was looking at their website and they have where you can view humpback whales. Oh, my God. You're living my dream. And so I was like, Mom, we could do this.

She was like, well, they migrate. So you need to make sure that they're in that. Mom. Perfect. Yeah. So honestly, all we want to do is sit on a beach. Literally. Eat good food.

Literally. Not do a thing. Totally. That's my kind of vacation. Besides. You guys. Because it's been so insane. Like preparing for the baby.

Yeah. Planning a wedding. Yeah. Work. It's just so crazy. Yeah. No time for the baby planning a wedding yeah work it's just so crazy so much yeah no time for the old mom and dad no time to not boot you know what i'm saying not boots not boots darks and cake goes 10 days straight but also we were just saying this might be tmi spill yikes but we were saying like obviously after you give birth you can't have sex for, what, eight weeks? I was gonna, I was, well, I was

concerned more about the snorkeling. I'm like, is she gonna be healed enough to snorkel? But, like, yeah. But also. This kind of snorkel. Yes. Well, now we know what you know bachelor nation's not ready for this

they're not but we were like should we because our wedding is you know not to give timelines or date soon after yeah so it's like do we just wait it out for and make us like born again virgins whoa kind of fun that's some psychological

play you guys are sick right little temptation little like oh yeah whoa how is baby is as she head down she's head down okay um i believe she's dropped she She's in position. Wow. She's ready to go. I am very much ready to go. Are you doing anything to induce labor? I'm drinking raspberry leaf tea. You're like, I'm drinking bottles of wine. I'm drinking tequila. Yeah.

I just got my yoga ball, so I'm going to be bouncing. Fuck yeah. Lots of bouncing. I made dates, but I don't like dates. So I actually opened them up, squirted peanut butter, and then covered them in milk chocolate and put them in the freezer. So now I can eat them by the pound. Come on. You know what induces labor?

I was in midwifery school for a year and a half um that you want to deliver my baby um you don't want to trust me i learned about liability and how expensive it was and i was like peace out girl scout okay perfect yeah but um the nipple stim induces labor really yeah like just twisting my nipple yeah just twisting just twisting. It's like. That's all you gotta do. Yeah. Really? That's something to try. Okay, I'll try that. Give it a shot.

No, I'll try that out. One date, one nipple stim. Switch a room. She's gonna be like. Yes, it's really all that's on my docket. I don't really know of anything else that induces labor. Me either. But we're, you know, I'm on, I'm, I'm.

Not quite there yet. Well, I'm counting down for sure. Yeah. You're never going to be ready. Just like me and the puppy. No, I'm definitely ready. We're ready. Oh, I'm, no, I'm, yeah, I'm ready.

But I, I. We're just like, you know. Yeah. A little early right now. I was just telling Nick last night, I'm like, it is so crazy that she won't be a part of me anymore. It's like right now she's getting everything from me. And then soon she'll just be breathing in here. You're like, rude.

I don't remember where you came from. Literally. He was like, I'm sure I'll have to remind her when she's 10. And I was like, I won't have a problem reminding her where she came from. Yeah, literally. Trust that. But we do have a name picked out and it's,

is it Gabby? Is it Winday? It's Winday. Winday. What's your middle name? Maria. Gabriella. Maria.

Windy. Gabriella. Why don't you go by Gabriella? I tried. I did have a phase. When I was a Broncos cheerleader, it was DBC Gabriella, Maria, Wendy. Gabriella. Why don't you go by Gabriella? I tried. I did have a phase. When I was a Broncos cheerleader, it was DBC Gabriella. But it's like a mouthful. It's like, could you call me Gabriella?

Like, I'm just not sophisticated enough. It's too much. Yeah. It's like Nicholas. It's like, oh, God, so exhausting to say. Yeah. Some people, like, I have a friend, Jefferson. He's not, shout out. I haven't talked to him friend, Jefferson. He's not shout out.

I've been talking to him years, but he's a nurse and he refuses to go by Jeff. Jeffy Jefferson. But that's kind of a sick name. Jefferson. Jefferson. Jefferson. Yeah. We have a dog named Jeff, but he's also a dog. Gabriella. Gabriella.

I know. Robbie doesn't call you that? No. Yeah. gabriella gabriella i know robbie doesn't call you that yeah i know i feel like i would love to be i would love to call nick nicholas but i just i just can't yeah no what do you guys have pet names for each other oh my god oh let's hear them go ahead honey oh honey same with confidence okay let's hear it come on come on sweet pea baby girl go ahead okay what what just say it say it what this is only you did greater this is always the question what's the question if you were asked what what would you say honey bunny he has no clue chicken man chicken What would you say? Honey Bunny. He has no clue. Chicken Man. Chicken Man. I don't know why.

Chicken. It's just funny because I, all of the names for Nick started with Jeff. So like, it was what I called Jeff. Yeah. And then it was like, ah, you know, like dog, boyfriend, husband. They're all the same. Yeah. Interchangeable.

Who am I kissing? Exactly. So like, they're all Muffin Mans. They're all the same. Yeah, interchangeable. Who am I kissing? Exactly. So like they're all muffin mans. They're all chicken mans. Cute. Oh my God. Yeah, they all kind of mesh together. Yeah, I hear that.

What is Robbie's? We don't really, I've tried like baby, honey. She calls me my lovey. Okay, cute. I know, she's really cute with them. So then I just take all of hers and repeat them back. Oh. I'm like, here's your coffee, my lovey okay cute i know she's really cute with them so then i just take all of hers and repeat them back oh i'm like here's your coffee my lovey i can't do it with such confidence yeah i know but i love that one i love a pet name honestly anybody could call me baby and i'll just

like go weak in the knees love at the nail salon i'm like i, I am your baby. Yes, I am. Say it again. Yeah, I like a baby girl. I love a baby girl. I love a baby girl. Makes me feel so... Girl, throw me in your pocket. You know? Come on. Yeah, beat me down. You know what Nick did at brunch the other day? What?

No! No! And went for my chin hair! No, she asked me to no i said do you see this because i can feel it because i can feel it i feel another one actually which is rude i have a long one i see every day in the rearview mirror you said and thick i said can you see it can you get it out and then he and then he put it i could he said, can you just tuck it away for later? Like, yeah, let me just. And I got it later. I got it later. You did get it later.

With your fingers? Yeah, well, I got it with the fingers. Oh, my God. Wow. I can't even. I have like, I run booger heavy. So I have a lot of boogers. Robbie cannot.

Really? Yeah, because I'll just wipe it on anything. Oh, Nick is constantly rolling up a booger. Oh, my God. Constant. I don't use my fingers. What do you use? Like this. like a sheet if we're in bed and she's like go to the sheet yeah the sheet yeah literally i don't know where they go they disappear sorry you don't flick them uh no they just like rolls them up and then throws them i don't roll them up sickening

disgusting animal i know what a great place to end it it's a great place to end it everyone can picture you doing that well uh the bachelor starts uh next week monday we'll be talking about it a little bit uh along with all your other rab Bravo Housewives and pop culture stuff and next week isn't just reality recap we have Kylie Russell in here to talk about her and Avon and the infidelity that took place

in that relationship she is here to spill it all from beginning to end she talks about how the relationship started she shows us a photo she shows us a photo. She shows us a photo of Avon in a not fun situation. That somebody sent her? Yeah.

She came with receipts. Oh, tragic. Yeah. She is here to spill it all, tell us all. That is next Tuesday. This week, Thursday, Going Deeper,

we have the wonderful Alison Holker here for the first time. She hasn't really spoken on Twitch's passing. Her husband, Stephen, who died by suicide about a year ago, very tragically. She has a new book coming out that she wrote with Stephen and just here to talk about that experience in general, what it was like. And we really appreciate her graciously giving us the opportunity to help share her story for the first time. That

is this Wednesday. So you will not want to miss that. And then next week, like I said, we have Kylie Russell to talk about her breakup with Avon, the cheating that went on in their relationship by the hands of Avon. And then following that next week, Thursday on going deeper we have taylor green from southern charm to go if not you know coming off the heels of their reunion obviously she has a lot of thoughts about what happened this season uh her and olivia her and i mean she's got drama with kind of everyone. She's Shep, Olivia, Austin, JT. She addresses it all next week, Thursday on Going Deeper. I think the reunion is the part two reunion is this Thursday. So a week from that, we'll have Taylor on.

And so many more wild interviews lined up for you guys. Get ready to be entertained. Anything you want to plug? No. Please just keep following me on social. I think my TikTok is slept on personally at Gabby.Wendy. That's all. Okay.

Yeah. And my Instagram, obviously. Don't forget it. Gabby.Wendy. Gabby.Wenday. Wend Okay. Yeah. And my Instagram, obviously. Don't forget it. Gabby.Wendy. Gabby.Wenday. Wenday. Yeah. Enjoy.

Any work on getting that dot removed? Who's the Gabby Wendy? Oh, yeah. They did offer me, but I was like, nah. How much did they try to sell it to you for? Free. Yeah. I wasn't interested.

I like things. I like to do things on my own terms okay I like the dot what's wrong with the dot no I don't know Gabby.Wendy Gabby.Wendy

mine and Natalie Joy two insta-jays and everyone's like whoa whoa whoa what just type it in this is Natalie anyways bye thank you What? Just type it in. Yeah. This is Natalie. Anyways. Bye. Bye.

Thank you.