The Viall Files - E765 RR - Perfect Match w/ Stevan, Brian Baumgartner, Love Island, Gypsy Rose, & Justin Timberlake Arrest

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the VyloFiles Reality Recap Edition. That's right, it's Thursday and it's Reality Recap because we have so many things that we wanted to talk about. It just made more sense to do a Reality Recap. But yeah, we're making some minor adjustments to the VyloFiles formatting because you, the audience, we want to listen to you. With that being said, next week is another banger week. We got two reality recaps both Tuesday and Thursday, but don't you worry, we do have a Going Deeper sandwiched in between the reality recaps on Wednesday. And we have an amazing guest,

Micah from Perfect Match will be joining us. Obviously a lot to go over. The finale of Perfect Match is dropping, I think this weekend on Netflix, and lots to get into. It's a juicy, juicy ending for sure. So next week is Ask Nick on Monday, Reality Recap on Tuesday. Going deeper, and it's just a going deeper. It's just the interview with the texting office hour that is a smash hit.

And then reality recap on Thursday. So you do not miss it all. Lots to get into. And well this episode of reality recap we got some great guests. We have Brian Baumgartner, you know him as Kevin from the office, we'll be joining us later as well along with Stevan from Perfect Match.

Like does he think that Harry and Melinda kissed? We don't know, you know? He was certainly defending Harry and suggesting that Melinda was, in fact, there for her 15 minutes. So I wonder if he still feels the same. A lot to get into with Stevan, but that's for later in the show.

It's now time for Household Headlines. Household Headlines. Household Headlines, that's right. What do we have? Oh, Justin Tim Household headlines, that's right. What do we have? Oh, Justin Timberlake, he got arrested. DWI. What's the difference between a DWI and a DUI?

So I looked it up. DUI stands for driving under the influence. DWI stands for driving while intoxicated. Is it a state by state thing? It's a state by state definition. It's just a title thing. But ultimately the same thing? You're fucked up behind the wheel?

Yeah, the officer said the defendant was operating said vehicle in an intoxicated condition and that his eyes were bloodshot and glassy. A strong odor of an alcoholic beverage was emanating from his breath. He was unable to divide attention. He had slow speech. He was unsteady a foot and he performed poorly

on all standardized field sobriety tests. I thought he was gonna be like, he performed poorly on his his dance routine or something. I'm sure that's part of it too. I've seen videos. Dancing the line. That's a hell of a mugshot though. Here's his mugshot.

He did slay the mugshot. No, I mean, his eyes are fucked. For sure, yeah, no. That skin is glowing though. Someone who maybe smoked weed. No officer lied in that case. His eyes are bloodshot, his eyes are glassy. I saw a thing that was like,

Justin Timberlake, judge, like when am I gonna be free? And then I was like, gonna be mad. Oh no. Terrible. So the funny thing with this is that the officer who arrested Justin did not recognize him. And then basically the whole time- How old was the officer?

Do we know? We don't know, but he was Gen Z. We know that for sure. That's what the internet is like. So it was like a mid-20s. Mid-20s, yeah. So he didn't know- but he was Gen Z. We know that for sure. That's what the internet is like. So it was like mid-20s. Mid-20s, yeah. So he didn't know. It could have been like a 50 year old guy

who doesn't know who Justin Timberlake is. That is possible. That's true. I wonder if he's more upset about his DWI or the fact that the officer didn't know who he was. I think Justin's, like, has it been not recognized before? I would say probably the DWI. I feel like that's a little, like, that's a little like. It's a bad level. That's a bad.

At some point, when will people stop driving drunk? It's like. Take the Uber. Just stop doing it. Ubers are so easy. You have so much money. So much money. You have a driver.

Exactly, you could literally call somebody, they would come and pick up your car. It's the most selfish thing that you could do. If I had Justin Timberlake money, and I'm not familiar with his finances, but it sounds like he's got a lot of cash. He's done well for himself. I would just hire a driver.

I would never drive a day in my life. A day in my life. Also, they have self-driving cars now. I took one. There's that too. What does Jessica Beale say? Could we ask her what she thinks of his actions? Probably not great. Do you think she got a lecture?

What would you say to me if I got a DWI? Oh my God, I'm sure I would have like. What would it be the last, what, yeah. I don't know my script currently in this moment, but I definitely like making either. Would I have to like go in the corner or like what. Just holding up your baby. Yeah, I don't know what I would do.

I'd probably make you like sleep outside. There's a, like I know we always talk about how shame is kind of a bad thing these days, especially when it comes to parenting, but is there an appropriate time for shame? I believe there is. I think this is an appropriate time for shame. Yeah, I think Justin Timberlake deserves to be shamed

by not only his wife, but all of us a little bit. I will say, I think he was shamed in the moment because when he was arrested, he allegedly muttered, this is going to ruin the world tour. And the officer was like, what tour? And he was like, the world tour. And he's like, you're drunk. Shut the fuck up.

He's lucky it didn't ruin someone's life. Yeah. Well, Britney's thriving. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Justin needs a conservatorship. Maybe he does. He's still making music.

He's going on a world tour. Well, maybe not. Well, when this first came out, I thought maybe this was Justin Timberlake trying to get on Housewives. Because as Justin has suggested in the past, his theory is that to get on or stay on Housewives, you have to partake in a little bit of criminal activity.

Commonplace. And what seems to be a fan favorite amongst the Housewives is a little DWI or DUI, which is not, is a disgusting reason to get out. We do not condone this. To be clear, we think that's wrong. No, no, no. Do you really think that's?

So many Housewives and Bravo people have done it. Well, maybe they're just problematic. Yeah, I don't know, Sierra, what's your take on this? I don't know, I like when they shoot a little bigger with a little mortgage fraud, a little. When they shoot a little bigger. I like tax evasion. Exactly, I'm like, give me, oh, your husband robbed a bunch of older people, like, and now you're doing it.

Your husband was a drug dealer, love. Mafia. We want white collar crime, like anyone can get a DUI. I will say, do you think Bravo's cracking down and now you're denying it. Your husband was a drug dealer, love. Mafia. Yes. We want white collar crime. Like anyone can get a DUI. I will say, I do think Bravo's cracking down on like the drinking that housewives are doing. So, should be coming to an end.

But it's not honestly something we should be laughing about. It's not cool, Justin. So do better. Well, you know who's ready to get back to work, work, work. Finally. Finally. Is that okay for me to say? I know she's been like moming. It's ready to get back to work, work, work, work, work. Finally. Finally. Is that OK for me to say? I know she's been like moming. It's OK to say, but I do know Rihanna was offended at one point

that people were demanding she make music. Which fine. Fair. Like we supported it all. The makeup brands, the lingerie, the fashion shows, like whatever. But I'm like, give the people what they want. It's been years. It's almost been a decade. I also feel like this there has been there have been many fake outs here. Yes.

Yeah, is this real? Because I thought she was- She's exclusively said this. She said that from her mouth. Yeah. Because the fake outs before were just like singles or like Black Panther music or fashion shows. Features.

Also she's been supporting the things that we love like reality TV. So let's just calm down on forcing her. She needs to be a housewife. Yes. I would love that. She can do whatever she wants. She doesn't need to release an album let's just calm down. I'm forcing her. She needs to be at housework. Yes. I would love that. She can do whatever she wants. She doesn't need to release an album.

We just want one. Yeah. We just love her music that much. Isn't she a billionaire? Yeah. Yeah. In my head she is. She's definitely.

I'll be honest, if I were a billionaire, I would not be making new music for y'all. Exactly, it's exactly what she did. She's like, now I'm ready. Fine. Twist my arm. If you were a billionaire, would you stop working? No, I don't think so.

I think there's something to be said about needing a purpose in life. I think we, I was thinking about this last night. I was thinking about being a billionaire last night. I think about it every day. I think we drastically underestimate our need to be or feel useful. Work is often an easy way to feel useful

or have a purpose. I don't know if, like, I think what I do for work might change, yeah. I would definitely. The office looks a little different. Yeah. Yeah. Studios, studios a little bit nicer.

You guys would definitely, you guys would definitely make the same. We're on an island in a penthouse. Studio is a little bit nicer. You guys would definitely make the same. We're on an island in a penthouse. Well, if I'm going to be a billionaire, I can't pay you more. How else am I going to save a billion dollars? I'm just kidding. A billion dollars is like so much money. You could shed a million and not even notice.

You could shed a million and not even notice. You could literally, yeah. Well, speaking of having a lot of money, Wall Street Journal article suggests that stay-at-home girlfriends are having a moment. What is a stay-at-home girlfriend? A stay-at-home girlfriend is a young woman who, in the apartment at 8 a.m., makes the bed and cooks pancakes for her boyfriend before he goes to work. After green juice, it's time for self-care, a private Pilates reformer session, and a microcurrent facial.

Then she has a lunch with a girlfriend at a local hot spa, goes for a long walk, and listens to a podcast before it's time to get ready for our date night. Hopefully file files. Okay, sounds fun. Yeah, I don't know. It sounds great, but this also sounds like it was somebody's made up, like,

get ready with me for the day. Yeah. This is what I do in a day. I wake up at 6 a.m. and I cook my boyfriend pancakes. Well, I see these everywhere and they're all lying. That's not what they do every single day. What do you think they do?

They wake up around like 11, they like roll out of bed, they door dash like a burrito from somewhere. They're like definitely not drinking a fucking green juice. They're like chugging their- They're taking one sip and spitting it out. No, they're chugging their Celsius from last night. That's like on their nightstand. All of that is a lie.

Nothing on Instagram is real. If anyone wanted to know, I'm here to break it to you. It's all fake. They're spending a lot of time putting their phone up, like walking back and forth, getting out of bed like 800 times, checking to make sure it was the right. That is one of my favorite things to do

is when I see these like get readies with me or like spend the morning with me. And it's like, I know how many times you just like put on your slippers because you didn't get the right shot. You know what nobody does when they first get up in the morning is this like long body stretch, little turn to the side. And then they're like, oh, let me open my curtains.

I've never open my curtains. But it's at a different angle. I've never opened my curtains right after getting out of bed. You don't even have curtains. I do it, I do it, yeah. When I do it, it's like, meh. Do you stretch?

I do a little butt stretch. Every single morning, you do a- You have to wake up the body. What is that stretch? You gotta just stretch your body. I do. You hug yourself? Like whatever position, and then I just kinda like,

I don't know. No, I do a big stretch. No, I do a, and it's so funny, I don't know if I do. You hug yourself? Like whatever position and then I just kind of like, no I do a big stretch. No, I do a, and it's so funny. I don't know if I do it anymore, but I remember I was a kid and I did it. And my mom was like, your dad does the exact same thing. And he would like scratch his side like this. And I did it. And my mom was like, no, that is your father.

Wait, your dad does the exact same thing. You just scratch your side every morning? Not every morning, but like when you wake up, it's just like, it came right here. But like that's the movement. There are like body movements, I guess, that I now do that I'm like, oh, my fucking dad does that. Or like when I get emotional, I'll touch,

like I'll scratch my neck or something like that. And I definitely realized I got that from my dad. Are there things that you picked up from your parents? My corn tooth. Oh your corn tooth? What's a corn tooth? Genetics. My tooth right here that's like a little crook it's my corn tooth but like my dad has it in all seven of his children have it. Oh interesting. Same tooth same exact tooth crooked just a little bit. Pretty crazy. Well, it's just like looking like your dad.

A tooth, Nick? Every single tooth? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Maybe, did you forget to tickle your side this morning? I did, I didn't have my green juice. Are the blinds still closed? I didn't make pancakes. Nick left the kitchen extremely dirty.

Our dog tried to take some stuff off the counter, then got in a fight with Shug's dog, our babysitter's dog. It was just like a thing, you know? Mm. Had a great morning. Welcome. Yeah, River. Good. Yeah, which included allowing my wife to sleep in

while I took care of our daughter. Very nice. I didn't get anything from my parents. Oh, are you? But I wasn't raised by my parents. What? Oh my god, this is... What? Wait, what? Yeah, it got dark now. Yeah. I didn't get anything from my parents. But I wasn't raised by my parents. What? Oh my God, this is-

What? Wait, what? Yeah, I got dark, no. Your grandma. I don't know my father. My mom, my grandma raised me. My boyfriend, however, I will say something that was kind of like the first like little minor ick

I ever had was he was sitting on the couch with his dad and his dad like kicks up up his ankles on the table, which I just hate feet on a coffee table to begin with. And then Connor did it and I was like, oh, you are your father's son. Which I love you Mike, I know you're not listening, but it was an ick. What's stronger?

What has more influence, an ick or great sex? Great sex? An ick could turn you off from having sex with someone. Oh, this is true. Yeah, I think an ick. I think an ick because to find good sex, like find sex is fine. No, great sex.

Like, I don't know. Like you're just like, I love. You can change an ick. I love that dick. You can't always change sex though, right? But wouldn't a better comparison be like, like great companionship or an ick? Because I'm like, there's sometimes where I'm like,

so you love somebody so much, you're like, I will overlook that. Yeah, that's a different question. But like being dikmyktized, as they say. I don't know. No, I think if you can get an ick from someone, then they're not your person. That's not true. You can change an ick, though. Like, sex you can't always change.

She got an ick from her long time life partner boyfriend. And I've given, we've well documented the ick, or icks, I've given Natalie. And I do love my boyfriend very much, seven years. But I think it's like when you first meet someone and you experience an ick and you're like, oh my God. Or maybe you had sex with them, you're like this is the best sex ever

and then they do something that's an ick and you're like I just cannot move past it. That was fucking gross. Even if the sex is really good, I think the ick could be stronger. something that's an ick and you're like I just cannot move past it like that was fucking gross Even if the sex is really good I think the it could be stronger depending on what the ick is Justin like it's gonna turn me off like I'm not gonna Have sex with you. I'm gonna be like it was really good. But like that thing was really weird and gross There's a question for you because like I don't think I'm at least straight men experience It's the way women describe X do gay men

Experience X in a way that women describe X? Gay men are judgmental, so I guess so. Wait, you don't experience X? Yeah, but the way y'all talk about X is if this is like this- Like deal breakers? Yeah, these little things that you just can't get over. And I just don't, yeah, I don't think men notice stuff like that, or if they do, it doesn't really bother them.

For me personally, icks are, you can change that. Or like, icks are minor, they're not deal breakers. I think icks are like kind of funny and like, aw, I don't know, like they're endearing if you love the person. They are turn-off to y'all. No, like if it was a true, true ick, like I wouldn't be with the person,

I would not be able to get over it. Like there are a lot of things Danny does, and I'm like, oh, ick. But I say it in a loving, endearing way. But a different person would it be? Yeah, we're not talking about your lifelong partner. We're talking about you're out at a bar, you hook up with a guy, you're like,

oh my god, best sex ever. And then you're like, okay, fine, we'll do it again. And then you're at his place and you see something, he does something that's really fucking icky. And you're like, oh my God, do you leave? Do you have sex with him again? Lose my number. Goodbye.

But is that an ick or a red flag? Well, depends on what the ick is. Okay, so there. It sounds like- Icks to me are minor, red flags are like deal breakers. I don't know. It depends what the ick is. Okay, say he...

I think it's like the like, somebody that's a little too old to be having like liquor bottles, like old empty liquor bottles, like store it up as if it's decor. That's an act. Like movie posters? If I walked into your place and it's like,

mm, beer pong, like, oh, we drink a lot of handles. I'm like, yeah, no, thank you. Or like a very messy bathroom. Still clubbing at like, older. Yeah, no, that gives me an ick. At older. At older. I think it would have to be something

that they did in front of me. Like, I don't know. I'm like trying to think of like all the stuff that you do now that it's like now we're married. So like it's fine. But like if you would have done it on our first date, I'm like, would I have like stayed? I don't know.

That is true. The timing of when the ick presents is so crucial. No, very crucial. Well, that's of when the ick presents is so crucial. No, very crucial. Well that's like asking if ick is stronger than love, which it is not, because love is the greatest thing in the world. But yeah, I'm talking about, you only have, it's all you have is the great sex,

not the emotional connection, and the ick. I think the ick's stronger. Okay. I don't know. There's no emotional connection. Let us know in the comments. What else we got going on, Lea? All right, in some Bravo news,

we've got Kyle Richards and Dorit were spotted feuding during filming. You called it. You called it. Yeah. Confirms your point. I'm just glad they're filming. Yeah.

I'm really excited, honestly, to see single Dorit. Because, right, isn't she separated from PK? Well, it's implied that they're working on themselves for their children. I want to see Dorit date on Beverly Hills Housewives. That's what I want to see. I do too. Yeah.

I think that'd be fun. I don't know if we will. We shall see. I don't need a whole season of her whining about her marriage with Dorit. That was last season. That's typically what it is. Word of the town is she's been separated for years.

So. Great. And I want to see that on Beverly Hills Housewives and I want to see her date. Yeah. We shall see. That's just a request that I have. Well, we'll see if it gets granted. In other news, we've got Craig mentions

that he wouldn't tell anyone when he was going to propose to Paige. Curious to know, Nick, how long did you have the ring before you proposed and did you tell anyone that you were going to propose? Well, I planned a party and I had some help. So obviously, yeah, I mean, everyone knew.

Sierra, you knew? I was there. Well, there was a whole party. Not at the engagement after party. So I wasn't like, hey, I'm having a surprise party. Not gonna tell you what it's about. Surprise for you guys too. So I guess everyone knew.

Sure, yeah. So, okay. It was not a secret, other than for Natalie. That being said, but that was based off a request from Natalie. She was just like, hey, if and when you propose, these are what I want. I would like a party following and I'd like it documented. Those were the two requests that she had.

I was like done and done. I can do that, simple. When did you get the ring and like how long were you holding onto it before you proposed? And where did you hide it? It was at Cindy's house. Okay. Yeah, so I definitely did not trust Natalie.

Oh my God, no. I was looking through everything. You were tearing apart the drawer. And I was, yes I was. It's like what happened to this, I don't know, Steve. I don't know. I believe I only had it for like a week. We got broken in two.

And it took nothing. Definitely less than two weeks. Unless there was something here for them to take, then they might have taken that thing that you didn't want anyone to find. Would it be, where was it? Was there something here? Why are you so nervous? But that being said,

if it had Natalie not requested a party, I wouldn't have told anyone. How long did you have the ring for before? Less than two weeks. Less than two weeks. Maybe even less than a week. Wow, okay. I can't imagine people who like,

will propose to somebody in another state or something and fly with it. Oh my God, the anxiety. Yeah. Yeah. I can't imagine that. I agree. Or like doing it at a sporting event,

walking through security. First of all, why are you doing it? Or like proposing at a baseball game? It's when people do like on top of a mountain and like next to a waterfall. And I'm like, what? No. On a boat.

My anxiety is peaking. Cause you think it's gonna fall or what? Yeah, or that they will. Somebody that I know, her husband was an Olympic athlete. So, and they're like very like outdoorsy people. He put the ring in the ocean for when they went scuba diving and to like go down and find it.

And I was like, what if like a fish ate it? What if like, you know, just like, what if just something, that is something that is uncontrollable. I'm happy it worked out for you, but the amount of anxiety I would have. It was probably in some sort of special, secure world. It was tied down to a rock or something,

but still it's like, that's very risky. Yeah, you can't trust the ocean. Exactly. There's currents down there, the sand moves, tsunami. There's fish and sharks and crabs. Nellie are definitely not that adventurous. Oh my God. If Nellie was like, we're gonna do this,

I'd be like, I'm not going. You'd be like, no, no, no, you have to. I'm like, no, I don't want to. Or like when people put it in like food and things like that where I'm like, why would you wanna bite into a... That's the same with gender reveals. Sorry if anyone's done this.

Imagine all the people listening to me like, oh. I know. Shoot, I have to change my engagement plans. It's the cake that tells you what it, or like when you take a bite of a, no, no, no. The cake's cute. It's when you take a bite of a cupcake and it's on the center and then you like can't talk.

You can't kiss. You're like, I did that. You just gotta chew up the cupcake. You did that? I did the cupcake. No, Leia. Okay, well, listen. How did you celebrate with Danny?

You're literally like, hold on. Like, it was just the two of us first, and we just bit into the same cupcake. Did you do it like Lady and the Tramp? Like, yeah. Can I be honest? I don't hate the cupcake. That's because you love fucking sweets, you're 10.

We definitely were chewing while we hugged each other though. The idea of a delicious cupcake. I don't really care about like what's blue, pink, like I didn't want the cupcake. What's the icing flavor? I will say, I was like looking forward to that cupcake all day. I was like so hungry.

I walked in the door, it was there and I was like, I don't even care what the gender is, I just want this cupcake. I'm just hungry. Was your mouth blue after? Because I saw a video where everybody's mouth was dyed the color. Absolutely.

No, we did the balloon and it was perfect. The balloon is cute. Do you think we'll always do the balloon? Oh, that could be a cute little tradition. I don't know. I don't want to do the cupcake. We will always do it alone. Yeah, I don't want to do don't wanna do the cupcake. We will always do it alone. Yeah, I don't wanna do it part of part.

Nick did whenever we were like, okay, what should we do? Like, what are some, he was like, what if we have Cindy find out what it is and then she goes to the grocery store and gets flowers in either pink or blue and sets them on the counter and we come in and see. I was crowds, it was just, and we come in and see that. That was crowds, it was just, it was common. It's cute.

There's no bad idea in brainstorming. This is the start though, right? Yeah, that was the first idea. That was the first idea. There's a symbolism there. Flowers are like positivity, so. Thank you, thank you, Justin. And beauty.

Forever. There's thought. What was your other idea? I don't know. I think I stopped giving ideas after that. No, there was one more that I was like, are you okay? It's just like logistically, this is just not it. Never done a gender reveal before. What are you doing?

It's like you want the suspense, you want the buildup. And he's like, what if we just have it like under like a piece of paper and we flip the paper and read it? Little UNO card. At that point, you might as well just read the email together. Literally. It's like, what if we just have it under a piece of paper and we flip the paper and read it? Little Uno card. Yeah, what are you doing? At that point, you might as well just read the email

together literally. What if we just have the doctor call us? And then we'll guess. All right, what else we got? Another headline, 90 Day Fiancé star Angela Deem had sex with boyfriend 37 times in two weeks. I love this show so much. Same. Same?

I think we counted. Yeah. For sure. Same. Like what do you guys do? Do you just have the little tally marks on the wall? Yeah, we have a chalkboard. In the room.

Yeah, why do you start? Two weeks is a weird time period. Time frame? Yeah. Like how many times in a day, I suppose. Like did after two weeks, were you like, done? Do not come near me. Well, I think they were like long distance or something and they had like a two week when,

I'm not entirely sure, they had like a two week when they were. What is 37 divided by 14? 2.64. You are asking the wrong household. That's not unreasonable. I pulled up a calculator, so yeah. Three times a day. Two and a half. Two to three times a day. What's not unreasonable. I pulled up a calculator, so yeah. Three times a day. Two and a half.

Two to three times a day. What's the half like? It's a little low-y. Yeah, it's two to three times a day. A little oral, not to completion. When you put it in those terms, that's not that unreasonable for a new relationship. No, not at all.

It's not a new relationship. 90 day fiance. They've been on the show for five years. That show's insane, I don't understand. How old is this person? She's not young. She's like, I wanna say 50s, 60s. Oh my God.

But she got like plastic surgery, she got her glow up and her husband wasn't allowed in the country for five years. For those of you who don't watch 90 Day Fiance, it's a good one. It's intriguing to say the least. This is a really good show. Are you familiar with his character? Yes character. She is 58 oh

And she's having sex three times a day for two weeks. She's the stamina. I'd be like, please get away from me And then the question is like how long is the sex because Because you are having sex that long, at least from a man's point of view, like it's longer and longer. How old is her fiance, husband by now? What are we? I wanna say he's in his early 40s, late 30s. He's younger. That third time of the day,

you're, boy, you really have to focus. You really have to spread it out. When am I running my errands or doing my skincare three times a day? When am I doing my green juice, my body? Making your pancakes. Opening the curtains. They have a 22 year age difference.

Yeah. God bless. So he's 35. Okay, well that answers a few questions. I've been really good at this. Did you hear about Bill Belichick? Not the transition. Who?

No. Bill Belichick. No, what? Apparently has a 24 year old girlfriend. How old is he? Former, 72. Imagine taking Bill home to meet the parents. Yikes.

Also red hot chili peppers brought man 61, I wanna say, and his girlfriend's 19. Maybe bring him home to meet your grandparents. Okay, that's weird. You know. Now he's like, no judgment. I'm like, I his girlfriend's 19. Maybe bring them home to meet your grandparents. Okay, that's weird. You know. Now he's like, no judgment. I'm like, I cannot speak about that.

I cannot. Because my husband's... My husband's... He's hot, remember? My husband's hot. That's how you answer it. My husband's age is hot. So, yeah.

Gypsy Rose, the new show is out on Lifetime. I'm watching it. We need to catch up. I'm watching it. We need to catch up. I'm loving it. Y'all were all over this last episode. There was a nice chunk of Good Morning America and a nice chunk of the interview. Why didn't you send me a picture of me on Lifetime?

Because I was just so consumed in awe. And I was like, wait, this is also kind of weird. Very meta. Yeah, like very much like watching, like and I was like, wait, am I at the desk right now or am I on my couch? Do we need to watch? Is it good? Yeah, yes. Big takeaway. The first two episodes are kind was like, wait, am I at the desk right now or am I on my couch? Do we need to watch? Is it good? Yeah, yes. Big takeaway.

First two episodes are kind of like, Matt, the third episode is a week after she gets out of prison. So she's doing the press tours and it's like being recognized, being followed by media. I kind of had a little, like I've always had a little sympathy for Ryan. And then this episode definitely swayed

my opinion a little bit. Okay. He seems very into the celebrity of it all. He was very happy to be like, no, no, no, no pictures, please. Like, okay, you can get a selfie, but hurry up. And it's like very like... That's not being like a protective partner, no?

It wasn't reading that way, because he's just like, I don't know. As I said, you kind of have to watch it and have your own perspective. But for me, it was like, I can kind of see, like he's stressing her out with traveling. This girl just got out of prison, has never been on a plane, and she's calmer

about getting to the airport than this man is, like he's genuinely stressing her out. And then they show the clip of you guys talking about Ken coming in, so I think that's where they're bringing him in to the next episode of the conversation. So it's like getting juicy, the first two episodes were just like her getting out of prison and being with her family and whatnot so

they're still together at this point yeah Ryan and gypsy Ryan and gypsy so the whole next episode is Ken coming into the picture I believe he reached out to the stepmom okay I really want to know like when the restraining orders happened and why I would assuming it's coming up, but yeah, I think she, cause she ends this season, I believe with Ken, so. Yeah, but she doesn't, we don't want her around anymore. There she is, no more around anymore. Okay, well.

I would encourage a watch that's on Lifetime A&E, wherever you stream that, but it's phenomenal, not gonna lie, it's a good watch. Clayton is, his trial was. The court sides with Clayton Eckert. In the paternity trial. So did we throw that out? Did the court was like, listen, this is getting too much.

Is this finally resolved? Because I feel like there's, I mean, he obviously came on here, told his story, obviously team Clayton, we are, but is this done done finally? According to this doc, the docs, this person knowingly presented a false claim, knowingly violated a court order compelling disclosure or discovery such that an award of attorney

fees and costs is appropriate. Okay, so she has to pay all of his attorney fees? Well, then it's further order that the court having determined that this person has a pattern of similar if not identical behavior and court involvement, referring this matter to the county attorney's office for review of their actions. So basically there's further investigations going into this person.

Yeah, this was a very crazy story. And if you have not listened to the episode with Clayton O'Cart, you should definitely go listen to it. It's definitely a very Gone Girl-esque. Like it's, I mean, not even, minus the murder. Like, yeah, of course. That we know of. Yeah, of course. That we know of.

Yeah, there was no murders that we are aware of, but there was definitely a lot of craziness going on. Oh, listen, this was a very tough moment for Clayton. All jokes aside, like, he really struggled for this, and I'm sure it was a very scary time. So very glad that he seems to be out of this and hopefully he can move on with his life. Because it's like one of those, I think he's been so obviously fixated on clearing his name, which is totally understandable, but I really hope that now he can move on.

I wouldn't be surprised if he like almost like stays in this lane and tries to like advocate for like similar people who have. But like I kind of hope for him that he just kind of moves on from this and moves forward. Yeah, what's interesting is that there's a lot of discourse right now I've seen where like people are getting upset that other bachelor, past bachelor and bachelor at contestants aren't like speaking out about it.

Well, I feel like we have or they haven't, certainly we had them on the show, we've done our part. Oh, not us, not us. our part. But, but like. But also what are people supposed to be saying? We're not upset, like we don't all follow each other. And if we do, we all don't give a shit and say attention to each other. It's more of a courtesy sometimes.

And some of the people we're friends with, some of the people we're not, but also to the point of the Clinton, like there was this whole like Maury Povich moment where he's like, I am not the father. And I think a lot of people at that point thought that was it. Obviously this has been ongoing.

So I feel like a variety of people who have. But I think the main takeaway is for some of the contestants you see on The Bachelor, the people who are also on the show aren't as always as obsessed with these storylines or these people as some of the fans are, which is okay. However, they're not obligated to speak on it. There's nothing really left to say.

Yeah. I agree. Congrats. I feel like do what you want with your platform. Really? Yeah. We also don't like, yeah, live online. At least some of us don't. When you become aware of a story, it might take someone else three days.

Vlog around the news. Yeah, and like some podcasts are released weekly, this just happened, like give them some time to edit the episode. Give some time for the story to get out, you know? Leia, are you watching Love Island? Yes, absolutely. Love Island UK or Love Island USA? Both.

Which is better? UK. Well, okay, normally I am a UK, Australia girlie, but I gave USA a chance. Are those one of the same or are those two different shows? Two different shows. Two different shows. There's UK, there's Australia. South Africa, there's a whole franchise.

There's a whole franchise. Germany, yeah. But UK and Australia. UK and Australia are my favorites. UK is the ultimate winner, but USA is good. This year? I am enjoying it. Oh, in general? I am enjoying it. I have only watched this season.

I will not lie, Ariana drew me in and I'm loving it. I mean, I think like the first couple of episodes were very interesting because I was like, the girls are actually more toxic than the men on this show. And like everybody just seemed like not as mature as they do on the Love Island UK series. And so I was getting a little bit frustrated and annoyed watching them.

I was just like, oh my God, these people. But I'm hooked now. In the last episode, it was drama. It was such good drama. So basically I'll paint the picture for you guys. I was like, what happened? Here we go. Okay, so Rob and Leah are together.

This is episode eight. Not me. No. This guy for me is an ick. So many icks. Anyway, so on episode eight, Rob and Leah, they've been going strong the whole season. They've had like bumps in the road,

a bombshell came in and stole Rob, but they got back together. Everybody always loves when that happens. They're strong. Rob is like, I really like you. They're hooking up at night. They are together. Then two bombshells come in at the end of episode seven. Question, are bombshells everyone or bombshells only women?

Everyone. Everyone's a bombshell. So every week they're like, men come in as bombshells everyone or bombshells only women? Everyone. Everyone's a bombshell. So every week they're like, men come in as bombshells, women come in as bombshells. This week it was women coming in as bombshells and two women came in and everybody on the cast was either blindfolded or handcuffed to a wall or they were just, I don't really know why

that had to be a thing, but the girls come in and one of them kisses Rob. They get to pick two men that they want to kiss. One of the bombshells kisses Rob. Rob reassures Leah, I'm into you. I'll let you know if anything changes. Don't worry. I like you. The bombshell chooses Rob to go on a date and on this date they kiss. Rob again, he's like, first thing, he like presents as such a gentleman. He's like, I need to tell Leah, like, she's the first person I need to tell. He obviously waits, like, she finds out from the girl. She's really chill about it, but hears him out. And then she's like, no wait, I'm kind of pissed about this. So they have another conversation.

And this is after he's reassured her so many times that like, I will tell you if anything changes. He's like, I do like this girl. I want to give her a chance, but like you're, I still really like you. And she's like, so she confronts him about how she's feeling. And he has the biggest temper tantrum I have ever seen in my life. So a very hairy, a la hairy. It's so a la hairy. I'll show you a-

So like he, can you cheat on a reality TV dating show where you're like- On Love Island, they do give the option to like be exclusive or like to be closed off to other people. So I'm like, there is that element of- Commitment? Yeah, commitment or like we're sticking to it. So in that case, yes, but on a dating show,

like perfect match and whatnot, like I don't really consider that cheating if your whole objective is to be matching with other people. It's amazing how some of these guys really like victimize themselves after getting caught. I don't know what I would do if I was like having an argument with someone and I was explaining why I feel like they cheated on me

or I felt like wronged. And then they threw a temper, here, watch this. It's the pencil dive into the pool. You know what this looks like? He has a full blown temper tantrum, he's curled up in a ball. And then he does this, he jumps into a pool and hides underneath this ledge here.

What the fuck? This is giving like sharks and fucking minnows. Like this man's playing a pool game, like hiding. Like literally, I used to do this as a child, like with my siblings where we would hide from each other in the pool. It reminds me of High School Musical Two when Zac Efron Choi like is like throwing his body

and like running through the golf course. And he's singing where he's throwing his fit. He's like, she doesn't love me. But it's that man thing where they throw their body to make a tantrum. It is very interesting what you say, though, because with all of these reality shows, they have these games where you have a choice to either kiss your partner or kiss someone else.

And in the last batch of episodes that I watched, there was this episode where all the last batch of episodes that I watched, there was this episode where all the women, except for two of them, basically chose to kiss other people rather than the person that they were coupled with. And the men were all pissed about it. Cause they were specifically Aaron,

who's in a match with this woman, Kayla. And he was like really upset and hurt by the fact that she chose to kiss someone else. And so like that's when I was feeling like the women were then being like, oh, why are you upset and crying about it? But then the men completely flipped the script. These two new bombshells come in, Aaron and Rob. Aaron and Rob both are all of a sudden into these women.

I felt like Aaron was using Kailor's previous kiss to like kind of give him the green light to explore new connections. But I mean, I just, I don't know. It's an interesting question where it's like they've known each other for only a couple of weeks. None of them are officially dating. So like, and the whole purpose of the game

is to explore other connections. The whole purpose of the game is to explore other connections. The whole purpose of the show is to explore other connections. I don't think you can cheat, but you can lead someone on. I think that's my take on it. Yeah, because he was telling her, like, I got you, I like you, I'll tell you if anything changes. And then at the recoupling ceremony, he just kind of like, Ariana tells everybody, if you're open to recoupling with one of these two new bombshells, like stand up and come here.

And so three other guys get up, there's this like dramatic pause, and then Rob kind of turns to Leah, he's like, I'm sorry. And he gets up and he stands up there. Alert, alert. Okay, wow. All right, well, Love Island USA, maybe we'll have to take a peek bit.

I don't have the time, but yeah, that sounds amazing. Oh my God, wow. What a yes, but I don't I don't have time but yeah, that sounds like It's an incredible commitment we can just have a layup give us rundowns Well, I'm watching it no matter what and UK is like UK is pretty good also this season but US surprise. How do you have the time? Yeah? Truly, I really don't know. I'm watching UK and it is a commitment. That's it for household headlines. It's now time for Brian Baumgartner.

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It's great to have you. It didn't feel genuine to me. You want me to start over? No, I- Do it again, take two. I prefer- Yeah, take two. We'll definitely play both things.

But like, Brian, so good to have you back to the Vile Files. Like, holy shit, I can't believe you're here. It's so good to see you. Yeah, it's so good to see you. It's so good to see you. How you been, man. Holy shit, I can't believe you're here. It's so good to see you. It's so good to see you. How you been, man? Hi, guys. Hi.

Hi. See, that's how you do it. Okay, sorry. That's lessons from me. That felt very genuine. Yep, it did, right? I was channeling Kevin. I felt like Kevin was more of a low, hey guys.

This is how it seemed. Hey, Nick, great to see you again. We have a book here. No, fuck me. You're fired. Brian. Yeah. It's really, where'd you get those shoes? Where did I get them?

Oh, look at those. Are those like alligator? I don't know, is alligator canceled? Good question. Actually, as soon as I said that, I was like, oh fuck, alligators. I don't know. Here comes PETA.

I don't remember what they are. They look good. Fake, they're fake. They look good. Do we own these? They're not fake. They're not fake me. Here comes PETA. I don't remember what they are. They look good. They're fake. They look good. Do we want to do? They're not fake. He's a celebrity people. Give me a break.

Please. They're not fake. I mean, I wish I could tell you exactly who they were, but I actually bought them myself. So why would I shout them out? There you go. Yeah. Period.

What else is new? I'm here. You have a new studio. I don't know if you noticed that. I do. Yeah. You have a new studio. I haven't been here before. Yeah. Period. What else is new? I'm here. You have a new studio. I don't know if you noticed that. I do, yeah. You have a new studio. What do you think compared to the old studio?

I haven't been here before. I think the couch is low. I think that the environment is inviting. Okay. Great. Brian was at our first studio. This is an upgrade. This is like a wood desk.

It's like, it's a fake wood desk. Well, actually it's a wood desk. It's a fake wood desk. Well actually, it's a wood desk. It's reclaimed, right? Reclaimed wood. Restoration hardware. Cobbled together, is it? It's a couple two by fours, mount and then a TV built inside of it,

and then that's like paper that looks like wood. It's like a poster board. You should see it from the other side. You remember when I said that it was an upgrade? Hollywood is an illusion. I'm I said that it was an upgrade? Hollywood is an illusion. I'm no longer sure it's an upgrade. But you do have a TV screen. I don't have a TV screen that just has my name on it.

I don't have that. In case people forget to show that on. It's great to be here on the Vile Files. Yeah. He can read. Nailed it. Anyway. That joke didn't work. All right, here we go. Here can read. Nailed it. Anyway. That joke didn't work.

All right, here we go. Here we go. No one gets my last name. Vile, no, I was pretending to read. That was the joke. I wasn't mispronouncing your last name. I was pretending to read because it's there. You gotta stay with me.

Yeah. Yeah, but a lot of people get my last name wrong. No, I get anxious every time I say your last name. Yeah. Vile, right? Vile. That's what I said. Sure.

I say vial, am I wrong? Vial, like a vial of... It's more vial. Vial. Vial. But if you say it fast enough, it just sounds like vial. What's my last name? Yeah, does anyone miss...

What is it? Oh my God, now I have anxiety. Didn't I? Brian Baumgartner. Brian Baumgartner. You're definitely missing one letter He's rushing through the end of it on purpose Gartner

Yeah, I don't remember what was he miss he was missing something Rushing through the end of it cuz I think he didn't know if it was a T or a D Oh, but that didn't even felt there we go. It's a T, right? Baumgartner, yeah. Gartner. Gartner. Baumgartner. Baumgartner. What is it? Ryan Baumgartner.

He's getting it. You're getting closer. He's close enough. I can't read or speak. But it's a pleasure to have me here. Yeah, but I do have a podcast. You do have an amazing book out. Thank you.

Another cookbook. Another cookbook. Another cookbook. Which is, you are my inspiration for cooking. Because when there's too many cookbooks you open up today and you're just like, I would never eat this. Right. This doesn't look good. Hey, thank you.

Every page looks delicious. I'm telling you, they really, really are. And that is, I know it sounds like a sales pitch, but it's truly part of the reason that I put this together and included so many recipes that I think the barbecue and slow cooking intimidates people. They're like, oh, I can't, I don't know, I'm gonna, you know. But so it's got not just recipes, but some, ooh.

We're gonna have green sauce. Smoked, but some, some, ooh. We're gonna have green sauce. Smoked pork belly tuck, I'm sorry. No, no, no, but stuff that is really achievable to make that doesn't necessarily take your entire day. Now there are recipes in there that will take your entire day, but really walks you through it so that, so that, yeah, you feel comfortable.

Yeah, there's a lot of- I mean, if I can do it, anyone can do it, right? I never thought about that. There's a lot of- Is that what I'm saying? That's a good title, you feel comfortable. Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, if I can do it, anyone can do it, right? I never thought about that. There's a lot of- Is that what I'm saying? That's a good title by the way. If I can do it, anyone can do it. Yeah, well.

Georgia gold chicken. Georgia gold. There you go. I think I've made that three times in the last two weeks. Ooh. It's delicious, yes. 30 minute cook time. 30 minutes.

You can have this in 30 minutes. Okay. Yeah, it's delicious. I'm up to the challenge. You are? Yeah. All right. I'm notoriously a particular eater. Okay.

I don't wanna say picky. Why? I would eat every page of this book. What are you particular about? I'm particular with my sauces. And I find that- I just had this discussion yesterday. I find that Americans, my wife included,

she's a sauce girl, it doesn't really matter what she eats as long as there's a tasty sauce. I'm on the, it's included, she's a sauce girl, it doesn't really matter what she eats as long as there's a tasty sauce. I'm on the, it's just like, a sauce is fine, some sauces are good, but I want the meal to be good. It's very interesting that you say that, and this was not set up, but that is part of what I talk about in this book.

So like, I'm not gonna name any specific chain restaurants, typically chain, it could be any restaurant, where you go to a barbecue place, and I believe that really means sauce. Sauce place. Yeah. Because when they leave, they're selling the sauce, and they're like, well, isn't the sauce so delicious?

And everybody's talking about the sauce. Meanwhile, it's like a shoe leather covered in said sauce. Sauce, yeah. Any like Smashburger anywhere, it's a sauce. Sauce. It's a a shoe leather covered in said sauce. Sauce, yeah. Any like smash burger anywhere, it's a sauce. Sauce burger. Sauce burger. But with part of what I talk about in here, which I really want to encourage people to do,

A, because it's the right thing to do, and B, it actually tastes so much better. Know where the meat that you're buying is coming from and buy high quality meat that is responsibly raised because because it is again, the right thing to do, but B it just tastes better. There's actually stuff there that is tasty. Don't over-sauce. Use a rub, a spice rub.

There's a lot of recipes in there or, uh, yeah, recipes in there for, uh, different rubs and stuff that you can use. And then, yeah, if you want to add a little sauce, your wife is a sauce person, like let her add some sauce, put a little sauce on it. There's nothing wrong with sauce. There's recipes for sauce too, but don't drench it in sauce. Yeah. That's very important.

Thank you. I'm glad that we are aligned. Yeah. And that, yeah, I mean, I'm not a sauce hater like you are. So like, do you eat someone? I talked to you yesterday, eat zero sauce. No, no, there's plenty of sauces I like. Like a barbecue sauce.

I will say one time he came in with a sandwich and he didn't finish it. And so Alison ate the other half and she took one bite and she's like, this is pretty bland. I have been trying to eat a bland sandwich for sure. Dry also. She was like. I like to sauce up my sandwiches with bacon.

Okay. The grease. Not technically a sauce. Oh, the just bacon grease. That's not what you want to do. That's as saucy as it might be. Maybe an Italian, maybe an olive oil. I'll put an olive oil on there.

Do you do the like oil and vinegar stuff? No vinegar, just the oil. Yeah, see, I don't like that. Then that's soggy. I'm just, personal taste, preference. Well, when do you apply the sauce? What? Well, what do you mean? I'm saying, I don't like it wet. You eat it as soon as you put the oil on.

I don't like the oil and vinegar. If I'm getting a sandwich to go, oil on the side, sauce on the side. Apply the sauce right before you eat. True. Maximum freshness. But see, I don't like the oil and vinegar like I'm getting a sandwich to go oil on the side sauce on the side Apply the sauce right before you eat true maximum freshness, but see I love Tomatoes great fresh tomato love to no issue. I'm not Please the tomato farmers. I'm not saying a

tomato on a sandwich horrendous Instantly and Makes it wet instantly. And it doesn't add that much in flavor. The downside in terms of texture and wetness, we keep saying wet, but the wetness is horrible. I won't do it ever. And it's always gonna get on your shirt. Don't even get me started on cut fruit.

I won't eat fruit that's not cut by me or vegetables. The freshness, it's all about freshness. Oh, the freshness, yes. Like, do you like warm fruit? No, I don't, I just want, I want it cut. Right. If it's going to be cut, I'm cutting it or it needs to be cut in front of me.

Right. Or I'm just going to eat it uncut. I'm very clear on this point. Do you like warm fruit? Warm, why would I eat warm fruit? I was just thinking that. If it's in a pie or like in a, like. I don you like warm fruit? Why would I eat warm fruit? If it's in a pie or like in a- I don't like warm fruit.

Generally no. Oh no. I love hot fruit. If I want pie, I want chocolate pie. I'm not an apple. I'm not a pie. Chocolate pie or chocolate cake? Chocolate cake, well either.

Really. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a cherry pie guy. What about fruit soup? Oh, what? That's a thing. That is a thing. It's a thing.

What is that? I've never heard of that. What is that? Fruit soup? Am I the only one who's had fruit soup? That's a juice, you mean? That fruit soup is a juice. Like in between a smoothie.

A what? In between a smoothie? It's like in between a smoothie and like a juice, I guess. Is it hot? You get your smoothie in your morning, you don't finish it, you warm it up on the stove and have a soup or something. It's cold, it's cold.

It's cold. It's a juice. What fruit specifically is this? It's like strawberries. By the way, you just freaked me out three times. Where is this voice coming from in the dark over there? Jesus. The voices in your head.

Whatever it is, it's either people or something. It's like this low, like, yeah. What kind of fruit specifically are we talking about? Should I serenade? Like, where is this, who's talking? Sweet boy Justin. Why don't you put him in the dark? We put him all over, but.

Okay. He's like a sauce. All right. Spread me out. What? Oh, this is, wow. This took a turn. Sauce on the side. I think you're making up fruit.

Soup. Soup. I think that's a juice. You've had it. Brian, we have some games that are household prepared for you. Games? Yeah, do you like games? I love games.

First one's, it's a primer.'s a warm you up this is a warm me up this is a warm you up game this is a get to know you okay it's called uh getting grilled with brian oh i like them getting getting grilled with brian bomb gartner there you go gartner he said it a little awkwardly but he did i was just enunciating do you have a middle name yes what is it what do you Guess what is it? Smith. I wanted to. Actually, wait, let me help you.

What does it start with? A B. Correct. A B. Bill. Hold on, Brian? Bob? No.

It's short for William. Oh, good. Brian. That is short for Robert. Why is Bob short for William? Can somebody explain? That's a whole episode. I thought Bill was short for William? Can somebody explain? That's a whole, that's a whole episode. I thought Bill was short for William.

You are 100% right. What is Bob short for? Robert. Robert. Robert. And Bill is William. Yeah. It still doesn't make much sense.

Will, Willie, Bill, Billy. Those are all William. What are some B names? Brandon? No. Oh my God, what are the names? Two Margo's. Yes.

Is it really? Nailed it. Stop it. Nailed it. Nailed it. Two guesses. The weird thing is, in this, because I do play golf, as you know,

and sometimes play golf on television, the most famous, well, if you don't know, I'm not famous, the most accomplished, there we go. Nailed it. Wrestler, like, but not like WWE, like, like Olympic wrestler. His name is Bruce Baumgartner. And so when I'm like Dan Hicks or like gymnasts or like whatever, when I'm on TV for like years, they were like, we're going to go to the 18th hole with Bruce

Baumgartner because their brain is taking Brian, putting Bruce because they know that. Sure, like the alliteration kind of thing. The alliteration, yeah. Ah, damn, that story went nowhere either. All right, I'm gonna work on it, but yes, you nailed Bruce. Thank you.

That's a great story. And now we all know that Bruce Baumgartner, really good wrestler. Really good wrestler. Not the fake wrestling, the real one. Right, like, you know what I mean, like an Olympic wrestler. Yeah good wrestler. Not the fake wrestling, the real one. Right, you know what I mean, like an Olympic wrestler. Like real wrestling. Real wrestling, yeah.

No fold out tables. People you wouldn't want to get in a fight with at a bar. Correct. If you see that cauliflower there, you just keep on walking. That's right. Yeah. Before we get to our game, I have a question

I've been trying out on you guys. Getting grilled, okay. Yeah, this is before the game. Okay, okay. What is the craziest thing you believe? Oh Question it is a good question. That's a good question. It can go That's a kind of question that any direction you want that's the kind of question though That is doesn't make for great because I would need to think about that for a second. What is the craziest thing?

that I believe in I Mean I'm sort of like that I believe in. I mean, I'm sort of like medium ish on a lot of things that I know people feel passionately about, meaning like ghosts or like UFOs or things like that. I am not, here's the thing that I'm not, I'm, I'm more talking cause I'm trying to think of an answer, but I'm not a big conspiracy guy. I'm not a big conspiracy guy because I feel like people do not keep secrets. And so like, especially a lot of like deep, heavy government stuff, I'm like, someone would have talked by now. We're talking about, yeah, like you can't keep a secret.

Someone is going to try to profit in this capitalist system by revealing said secret. That being said, I don't know, I don't know. What about you? Again, Stalin. Mm, craziest thing I believe. Mm, I should come with like a. I have one.

Yeah, you're gonna ask. Oh, you have one? Yeah, I think that we're all aliens. We're all aliens. Yeah, like I think that like. You think the human species was not of this earth. She's growing something in her stomach that's gonna turn into a person.

How much more alien does that get? That's pretty freaky. But isn't the word alien just mean other than what you're saying is like we there's us in different universes, us on different planets. And instead of being this green goblin has weird eyes. Yeah, I think we just look like aliens. Like we are the aliens. We were brought.

We were we were brought to the planet Earth and we multiplied. Yeah. But but do you think that, oh, that's interesting. Do you think that, but the whole green eye thing, like I don't have an opinion about that. E.T. was a great movie. But I don't know that I would think that other, yeah, I think it is a little bit nuts to think

that we're all that exist in throughout the universe and perpetuity. Yes. I agree with you on that, but I don't know that everybody looks like we look. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but I'm like, I feel like a lot of the times it's, you can see people that like look similar to each other. Obviously there's twins. I've yet to see my doppelganger if that exists.

Right. Those are crazy. But that's what I'm saying is that I'm like, no two people actually really look like, even the twins don't really look alike, but I'm like, it's still two eyes, a nose, a mouth, and it's the entire race of this planet. People are going to have the same form on all different countries, so why would it be any different on any other planet? Didn't know I was sharing that today.

Okay, I'm gonna talk science. I think it has to do with adapting to your environment. Okay. And actually it goes to your point, like people around the world look generally the same, but they do look different based on environmental things or whatever. So like if there's say a planet somewhere that has a crazy amount of oxygen that might alter, however, does that my phone? No, someone's being unprofessional, God. What happened?

I've never had my phone not on vibrate. It's not me. It's fine. It's fine. I think it's Brian. I don't think my phone, my phone isn't even in the room. Is your phone, are you a person who has their phone on vibrate or sound?

Always on silent. Always. Always on silent. Yeah. You? No, no, but my mom, on the other hand, always on loud. Oh, always on loud, yeah. Yeah.

That's a very mom thing. I didn't answer your question. I have one. Okay. I don't even think it's that crazy, but I think, you know, like the movie Terminator 2 and all the machines are gonna take over the world? I think that's already happened. I think we're being run by algorithms and a machine.

It's just like in the form of our phone. That's what I believe. I was having this conversation with somebody yesterday about this is great news for me. I will, and this also sounds very old manny of me, but just, just stay with me for a second. The businesses who are cashless, I don't want to, I don't want to support them because from a business perspective on a pragmatic level, they are losing money by doing that because there are credit card fees that they have to pay

So if they are collecting ten dollars, they're not really collecting ten dollars, right? Mm-hmm. They're capturing your information and your credit card and That that I don't know. Maybe this is my thing that I believe that's crazy that I really don't think it's crazy They are capturing that. There's the, you know, when you talk sometimes and then suddenly you get an ad on your thing or you search for something and you go to a totally different platform and those ads. I mean, we know that exists. Yeah.

They are taking your information. So like, and this, I will talk about it because I really am not happy with them. Blue bottle, great coffee, right? Blue bottle cash list. I don't sign up for anything. I'm not a subscriber. I Blue bottle, great coffee, right? Blue bottle, cashless. I don't sign up for anything. I'm not a subscriber. I went in, I bought coffee and the next day I got an email from them. How are they getting my email by me?

You paid cash? By no, it was cashless. So, so, so now I'm getting an email by paying with my credit card. Now you have access to my email and you can sell it. You can distribute it. You can distribute it. You can tell the world that I like coffee and what I like to drink and all that makes me crazy. So the person told me yesterday in the California legislature.

Wow. Has said that that is now illegal and that it is going to change because we please that is our, that is our, that is our currency. You can't deny someone the ability to pay with what our currency is. And I'm all for it. Are you using cash everywhere? Everywhere, everywhere.

Wow. Absolutely. It started from a very, I feel like, responsible, pragmatic place, which myself, like a lot of people, got in credit card debt. Like years ago, got in credit card debt. I had big credit cards and I'm like paying off and it's accruing all this stuff. And I eventually became an adult and I started making money

and I paid off the credit card. I cut them in half. I didn't have for probably, I don't know, like a really long time, like 10 years, didn't have a credit card. I had an ATM card and probably the reason I changed was renting a car. You can't rent a car without a credit card.

And so I finally was like, okay. It became a little, I now have to become actually an adult again and get a credit card. So I do have a credit card. See, when I pay for things in cash, I feel like I'm not spending money. Same. It is a little dangerous that way.

Yeah. It feels like reefing money. What do you mean? I just feel like it's already gone. Well, if you become a credit card kid, if you're like a credit card kid, when you get like a, yeah, you break a hundred for something, you get change,

it feels like funny money. Cause you- It's just, I can't see it. It's just like, I got a couple of 20s in my pocket. I don't know what to do with it. It's like, yeah, I'll pay for dinner. It's cash. No, it's fucking crazy.

The opposite is true. What are you talking about? I know, it's fucking crazy. I It's cash. No, it's fucking crazy. The opposite is true. What are you talking about? I know, it's fucking crazy. I literally want to do that. No, it's not logical, but it's true. No, I didn't. On a card, you're literally exchanging nothing and you're like, I'll,

It feels so much more real. I'll deal with it later. I know. I'll deal with it later. It's not real money. I'll deal with it later. This is how Las Vegas was built. Not using money.

We'll give you these things. Call them chips and you can spend them. And you're like, Oh, this is just chips. Let's spend. And then eventually you're like, Oh, I just lost a lot of money because that was actually worth something. Yeah. How does cash make you feel like it's not?

It's crazy. Cause it's already out of the ATM. It's like, it's gone. Like if I'm sitting down to eat, it's like, yeah, I have a hundred dollars in my pocket. I'll get the whole thing. It's like, I'm going to lose this in a couple of days anyway, so I need to spend it now.

I want it gone immediately. Then it doesn't count. It's fucked up, Brian. Yeah, it's already out. It's fucked up. The world is going in the wrong direction. I've already lost track of it. That's why. It's already gone. The world is going in the wrong direction. I've already lost track of it, that's why.

It's already gone. It's time for Getting Grilled with Brian. Woo! All right, ready? This is rapid fire, Brian. Okay, rapid fire? No stalling. The opposite of what you just did.

Yeah. Did I answer the question? I think eventually I did, I do believe that. That wasn't a rapid fire though. No, I was allowed to take time. Yes, that requires some depth and some, you know, introspective listening. Oh, so this does it?

No, this is fast. Hopefully not, number one, or letter A. What is your first job? No, wait, what? What was your first job? See, I was trying to be rapid. He's stalling. I was trying to get, no I'm not.

What was my first job? What was your first job? My first job, I was a host in a restaurant. What would you change your name to, and what would it be? If you, sorry, I can't read What was my first job? What was your first job? My first job, I was a host in a restaurant. What would you change your name to and what would it be? If you, sorry, I can't read. Wow, rapid fire? I'm dyslexic. If you could change your name, what would it be?

I would not. You would not? Never. What is your favorite episode of The Office? Stress Relief. What's your hidden talent? Golf, if that's hidden, golf. I mean, you do it on TV.

What? It's the opposite of hidden. Oh, okay. Oh. Did you know that I played golf? Yeah, cause you do it on TV. What? It's the opposite of hidden. Oh, okay. How? Did you know that I played golf? Yeah, cause you told us right before. You said on the 18th hole, it was Bruce Bromgaard. Yeah, no, okay.

I meant before the conversation. So that was a hidden talent. Now we know though. It becomes a hidden talent, right? I'm not even stalling. What is a hidden talent? Cooking. Okay, there you go.

I have a cookbook coming up. What's the last text you sent? I'm guessing to Megan. It was to Megan saying, Your publishers. I'm here. Oh, I'm here. Who is the last person you called? Uh,

Megan. I'm here, I'm still here. Yeah. What's your favorite? How did you get in the building? You walk around the left side? That was what happened. What's your favorite office blooper?

Me sitting on Michael's lap while he's dressed as Santa. Okay. Who would you want to write your obituary? Who would I want to write my obituary? So someone close to me? I don't get the question. Like who would I want to write it? Or okay, Arthur Miller.

Arthur Miller. That's a great answer. Great, I don't know who he is, but sounds important. Oh boy. Who's Arthur Miller? Famous. That's a great answer. Great, I don't know who he is, but sounds important. Oh boy. Who's Arthur Miller? Famous author, just keep going. Death of a Salesman, greatest American. You've read a lot of his books in high school.

Yeah, okay. It's our failed American school system, not me. What's your favorite meal of the day? Breakfast, lunch, or dinner? Dinner. What's your favorite actor or actress? I mean, it just popped into my head because I'm just really excited about the movie

about to come out, Walking Phoenix. Oh, had you ever worked in an office before on The Office? Yes, I served as a paralegal when I was doing theater at times. Okay, well, your favorite line you came up with on The Office, like you guys improvised a lot. Yeah, my favorite line that I came up with, the one that makes me laugh still, which didn't really come up with it.

But when, uh, doing employee, whatever you call it, like judging how good employees are employee valuations. And they set beans out. There was a question from Kevin that, cause he didn't have very many beans, which was what does a bean mean? And I continued to repeat that over and over and over, including the very end of the scene where you hear me shouting, what does a bean mean?

That makes me personally laugh. That was a good episode. What's your favorite movie? All Time, Godfather, boring. What's your favorite recipe from your barbecue cookbook? Grilled chicken with a Lebanese inspired whipped garlic sauce that I probably eat once a week for sure. What's the cook time on that?

Total cook time? If you have a gas grill, it's probably 30 minutes. What's your favorite time of the day? Midnight. Whoa. I like night. That's kind of a trick answer because that's, I Midnight. Whoa. I like night. That's kind of a trick answer because that's...

I'm stupid. It's a different day. Oh, it's morning and night. Nailed it. Nailed it. What are three things you can't live without? Television, and I mean that because I do love the art of making and watching television, golf and the beach.

What's one ingredient you put on everything? Or most things. Salt and pepper, yeah, I don't know. Nick. That's what I thought. No, that's what I was gonna say. I feel like we have similar palates and like salt is necessary.

Me and you have or you two? No. No, definitely not, you and I. Why? Fruit soup. I never said I liked fruit soup. I just said I've had it. The fact that you know it exists, or I'm sorry, the fact that someone has convinced you that it exists.

I have tasted it. But I'm a good ingredient person, and if you have good ingredients like good meat, the only thing you need is salt, maybe pepper. In terms of have to have on everything. I got a great Father's Day gift. This is probably coming out after Father's Day, but I'm going to tell you. There's no endorsement.

There is a product out there that I absolutely love. Speaking of cook, I think I mentioned in the cookbook that I was introduced to. It's called black rain white, and there's now white rain, which is salt and pepper. Like very heavy, high quality mills, right? But it's electric. Now you think, oh, you're so lazy, you can't grind your thing. No, but when you're cooking, you can pick it up with one hand and you hit the button on the top and a light comes out so you can actually see the salt and the pepper come out in your.

This is like my new favorite tool. They're not cheap. I'm going to tell you, but if you want to buy a nice gift for someone who cooks, this is, this is not my product. I have nothing to do with this. I am not selling it except to say it's a really great thing. What's it called? Black rain.

Okay. Well, someone looked that up. Black. Yeah. Black rain pepper. There's I think the whole company is black rain, but then they have white rain, someone looked that up. Black, yeah, black rain, pepper. There's, I think the whole company is black rain, but then they have white rain, which is for salt. And it's like a blue light, right?

I don't know if it's blue, but it, yeah, it's genius because sometimes, and especially like on the grill or outside, or if you have a dark kitchen, you can't see, it's like, is salt coming out? Yeah. But it shines down and you see it. I'm telling you, it's great, great. coming out? But it shines down on it and you see it. I'm telling you, it's great, great. Putting it on my wishlist.

Yep, there you go. What's your current TV obsession? Oh shit, it's supposed to be rapid fire. I'm rewatching The Sopranos, so that is it, but I also will mention, because I did really get into Baby Reindeer. I couldn't finish it. Yeah, it's just really disturbing.

Yeah, it got dark. And I was like, I need a break. I'm still on a break. Yeah. If you were not cast as Kevin on The Office, what other character would you have wanted to play? From The Office. Oh, from The Office?

Dwight. Favorite app. Well, now it's TikTok. I'm a new TikTok star. Yay! I actually hate TikTok. I think it is. I know a lot of your viewers like Yeah. I actually hate TikTok. I think it is.

I know a lot of your viewers like, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. Can we talk about that? Okay, sorry. Keep rapid firing. Instagram is the real, that's probably my.

Okay. Superpower you would want. Teleporting, teleporting. Same. Teleporting, 100%. Teleporting. Dark chocolate or milk chocolate? Milk, sorry.

Thanks for that. You are stuck in an island, you can pick one food to eat forever without getting tired of it. What would you eat? Without getting tired of, wouldn't you get tired of everything though? That's the thing Brian. I know, I know.

You don't in this mythical world. In this world, you would not get tired of my grilled chicken. Okay. Paige. Double down. Yeah. Summer or winter? Summer.

Favorite smell? The ocean. Sweet or savory? Sweet. Song you can listen to on repeat? Anything by Willie Nelson, okay or weirdly No, no, I don't know I don't know if this is lame Maybe you guys can tell me cuz I love you by Liz. Oh in the car really loud

I think her voice is unbelievable. I don't even know if it is canceled. I don't know anything about her I just I think she has an unbelievable. I don't even know if she's canceled. I don't know anything about her. I just, I think she has an amazing voice. Period. Hugs or kisses? The audience wants to know. Coffee or tea? Final question.

Coffee, a hundred percent. And that is getting grilled with Brian. All right. That was fun. All right. That was so, that was a great game. Now, but I do want to talk about TikTok. Very brilliant. Okay. And not specifically,

but I know I may alienate people here, but here, this is, I know that in general, the same people, and maybe you migrate, maybe you're more one or the other, but in general, not, not even specific people, but the general population is the same across Twitter slash X Instagram, tick tock the messages, the messages that you receive on tick tock are fucking crazy. They're just in there a whole other level of insane. And I feel like my brain tells me, you know, Robert Johnson sent replied to

me on Instagram and had a totally different tone feeling than on TikTok. It's all very weirdly aggressive and even more than any other act and I'm new to it. I will admit that just like they'll say anything and nobody cares. Are you with me on this? People are active on TikTok. Yeah, it's nuts. It's nuts. I can't even look at it.

I don't. Yeah. All right. I stay off. There we go. I'm just a lurker. So does it affect me? I have like a very like nobody follows me.

Yep. Just lurking in the corner. Eating fruit too. All right, Brian, that was that that that game was an appetizer for you. Okay. We know that- He's really with the puns with this. Was that written for you?

Nope. Okay. Nope. She's crushing it. Just a seasoned professional. Nailed it. Ayyyy. Ba dum pssh.

Oh, we did it again. I didn't realize that one. We are big reality TV fans here. Oh, I know. On this show. I know you are. No worries if you are not. But are you?

Do you think I am? No, no. We assumed that you were not. Yeah, this whole game is. But you are gonna help. Do we have a name for this game? Build Your Burger with Brian Bruce Baumgarter. Build Your Burger,

build your reality TV burger with Brian Bruce Baumgarter. Okay. You are gonna help us make a new reality TV show. You don't have to know anything other than you're gonna build a burger. Okay, I'm gonna build a burger. You're gonna pick ingredients. That I don't know.

Well, no, here's how it's gonna work. It's white bun equals Jack's Taylor. You don't need to know who Jack's Taylor is. Don't. All right, doesn't matter. But when you're gonna pick your bun, you're gonna pick your protein, you're gonna pick your cheese,

you're gonna pick your condiment, you're gonna pick your sauce. Okay. What's the difference between condiment and sauce? We've been talking about this all day. It's the same thing essentially, right? Anyways, more ingredients. Condiment? Well, a pickle is a condiment to a burger.

Yeah, and then the sauce are the juicy things. Okay, all right, fair enough. The liquid. The liquid. The liquid. The wet stuff. We're gonna get Brian the... Condiment and sauce would be like ranch or mustard or ketchup. Yes.

So there you answered the question. Okay. Yeah. But wouldn't ketchup and mustard also be considered condiments? Yes. Okay. But they're also sauces. But for the sake of this game, there's sauce. There's different.

Why does she have on pink gloves? Well, why don't we bring unpicked gloves? We'll see. Why don't we bring in the food? Oh, I get it. We're health, we're abiding by California State. So you're just gonna pick the ingredients. Okay. And while you pick the ingredients,

that's going to turn into an ensemble cast of reality TV stars. Do I know, do I, am I told in advance who the people are? We'll run through them. Sure. But I don't know who they are probably. Yeah, we'll can tell you. Wow. Those are the condiments. I mean, let me just say this, a lot of work was done for this game. It was. There's a, there's a lot of little flags with faces. This is how we combine our love interests with yours, Brian. Okay. All right, ready, so we're gonna start with, build your reality TV burger with Brian Baumgarter.

We're gonna start with the bun choice. We have the white bun, also known as Jax Taylor. Okay. Currently of the Valley, the wheat bun, Lindsay Hubbard of Summerhouse. We got an Onion Bun, Lisa Vanderpump. You may or may not have heard about her. No, yeah.

The infamous Hot Dog Bun, a classic. Our dear friend, Katie Maloney. So which bun do you want on your TV show? It's white, what is it? White Wheat, Onion, or hot dog? White wheat, onion, or hot dog? Yeah. Wheat.

Okay, we're gonna write the Wheat Bun. So Lindsay Hubbard is our first cast of this unnamed show. Okay. All right, now with our protein. Okay. The burger patty. Okay.

Mr. Tom Sandoval. Okay. Have you heard of that name? Yes. Okay. Chicken. I knew two out of the four. protein, the burger patty, Mr. Tom Sandoval. Have you heard of that name? Yes. Okay. Chicken. I knew two out of the four. Oh, you did?

I mean, by name. Lisa Vanderfaer? I bet you knew. Yeah. I'm not an onion bun guy, I'll be honest with you. Who is? Okay. Then why did you put her on the onion bun?

That seems like some bias. I don't even know this game or what we're talking about. Okay, well, here we go. She would have been a brioche, let's be on it, okay. All right So we got Tom's animal is the burger. Yeah chicken would be Carl Radke Okay of summer house hot dog would be Kristen Doty and fish fillet Gary the Golden Bachelor So burger chicken hot dog or fish fillet. Well, so here's the problem I mean if we're building,

what are we building, the perfect burger? The hot dog is now... We can cut up the hot dog. I know that seems weird. Or do we make it weird? It's your... Do we make it weird? Do we make it weird?

Oh, it's mine? Right, this is your sandwich. Whatever you want it to be, that's the point. I'm just making a sandwich. So the people are totally irrelevant, right? Yeah, well, the finished product won't be irrelevant But you know, it's your I'll go you're the muse. It's your stomach. Okay, I'll that will be the perfect TV show I'll go with the

I'll go with Burger the burger Okay, so we've got Lindsey and Tom so far. Okay. That's so far I'm watching. Yeah, we're off to a good start. Yeah, that's, it won't be without drama. All right, now for our cheese. Swiss, yours truly, Nick Vile. Okay.

Greer, Stassi Schroeder, currently unemployed in the reality TV world. Both of us, both me and Stacey are not currently. Well that's not true, I gotta show up. We'd be bringing him back. Cheddar, Monica Garcia. Also unemployed. Also unemployed.

Okay. In the reality TV space. Okay, so the cheeses are unemployed? If I may, I think you got some heavy hitters in the cheese department. American Cheese, Denise Richards, I know you know that is. Coming back to reality. You've seen Wild Things.

She's coming back to reality. Yeah, it's called Denise Richards and the Wild Things. Okay, yeah, I've heard about that. And then Mozzarella, Jesse from the Valley. Okay, I mean, look, I don't even remember who you said or what that person does. What's your cheese? Doesn't matter.

Typically would be cheddar, but that's boring for this game at this point because you're Swiss, so let's go with you. Cheddar wasn't even a word. And you need a job for sure. Yeah, for sure. All right, Swiss cheese. All right, so we got Swiss. We've got Nick in the cast.

So it's Tom Sandoval, Lindsay Hubbard, and yours truly me. Okay. Condiments, you're allowed to pick two. Okay. Because it's zero, one, or two. Okay. Condiments, you're allowed to pick two. Okay. Because, zero, one, or two, it's up to you. Okay, zero, one, or two. You can put as many as you want.

Oh, zero? Oh, okay. I mean, it's condiments. Okay, the condiments might change now that we chose Swiss, by the way. Okay, all right. Pickles, Paige, DeSorbo, Summerhouse. Onions, Andy Cohen. Tomatoes, that you typically don't like, Lala Kent.

Lettuce, Jen, the current Bachelorette. And then pineapple slices, Phaedra Parks, formerly of Atlanta Housewives and Traders. I mean, pineapple is a no. I already told you already, so again, I don't remember what you said about the tomatoes. No, tomato. That's a no.

I mean, it's kind of gotta be pickles and onions, right? All right, we got Paige DeCerbo and Andy Cohen. Okay. You're not a lettuce guy? What? No lettuce? I think it's with the Swiss, I would want like some more heavier flavors. Okay.

I was told two, right? I could do two and only two. You can do whatever you want to your sandwich. Yeah, all right. And we have Lindsay Hubbard. Why, you want the lettuce guy in there? No. Or gal? I'm a lettuce person. I could do two and only two. You can do whatever you want to a sandwich. Yeah, all right. And we have Lindsay Hubbard. Why, you want the lettuce guy in there? No. Or gal?

I'm a lettuce person. Now Andy Cohen and Paige Asherbo are two solid. Those are solid. Yeah, we got Lindsay Hubbard, Tom Sandoval, Nick Vial, Paige Asherbo, and Andy Cohen. And to finalize our cast, we have a sauce. Mayonnaise is Harry Jowsey. Ketchup is Jessica Vestal, both a perfect match.

Dijon mustard, Chinochet. Relish, Kyle Cook. Barbecue sauce is Teresa Judice. She's the housewife. Yep. Okay. Inmate. Yellow mustard, Tyler Cameron. Okay. Heartthrob.

He's a heartthrob? Yeah, he's sexy. Okay. Which isrob. He's a heartthrob? He's a heartthrob? Yeah, he's sexy. Okay. Which is interesting. Oh, well, we're done? Yeah, that's it? So mayonnaise, barbecue, Dijon mustard, relish,

barbecue sauce, and all American yellow mustard. There wasn't ketchup there? Ketchup is here. There's ketchup. Ketchup is there, yeah. Oh, who's ketchup? Her name's Jess. Okay.

Currently on Perfect Match. I'm gonna, I don't know, okay. I don't even know what that is. Ketchup and, I mean, with the Swiss and the burger, it's, you tell me, either, I mean, I know it's mine. It's either- I think ketchup is strong here. Ketchup, ketchup.

Or Trisha. Ketchup is good. I'm gonna say, so for me- But do you ever eat better, barbecues and ketchup at the same time? No. Okay. No. I'm not a barbecue sauce on Burger Guy also. eat better barbecue than ketchup at the same time? No. Okay. No, I'm not a barbecue sauce on burger guy also.

Either of mine. Yeah, it's actually true. For me, there would be some mayo or the yellow mustard. Do we have a preference? Can someone leave me one or the other? Harry Jowsey and Tyler Cameron. Let's put both. Let's put both then.

Let's sauce it up for Natalie. It's a dude heavy, I will say. It's, we have Paige De Sorbo and Lindsay Hubbard. Are they the only two women? Yeah. Let's put in one more sauce for fun. I think we just gave three, didn't we? What was our third?

One more sauce to make sure it's a girl. What was we got? Ketchup, mayonnaise, and yellow mustard. Oh, Jess, Jess Festo. Oh, we have Jess. So we have Harry Jowy, Jessica from Perfect Magic, and Tyler. Okay, wow.

All right, that's a show. That's a show. Lindsay Hubbard, Tom Sandoval, Nick Vile, Paige Deserbo, Andy Cohen, Harry Jousey, Jessica Vestal, and one and only Tyler Cameron. What's this show look like? Let's see, let's take a look. I don't know, but that burger,

that's way too much sauce. We had a whole discussion about sauce. That looks like drama right there. Then you asked, oh my god. All right, are you going to eat it? No. No, are you serious? Oh, is that what we were doing?

No, way too much sauce. Would you watch this show? I watch the show? I mean, I absolutely would eat this show. I would eat my sauce. That's one hot mess. That is a real hot God. That's one hot mess. That is a real hot mess. That's one hot mess.

All right, where is our show taking place and what's it called? Sauce. Saucy, getting saucy. Hot sauces. Saucy, hot saucy. I like where you're going with this. Hot summer of sauce.

Hot summer of, yep, I was gonna go there. Hot summer of sauce. Is Andy part of the cast or is he just hosting this thing? No, no, no, no, no. I chose him specifically because he now has to be in it. He's in it. Oh. Turn the tables. I'm hosting. Okay.

Hosted by Brian Baumgartner. Hot Summer of Sauce hosted by Brian Baumgartner. Here's the question though. If I'm hosting it, does that mean I have to watch it? Probably. No, no. No mean I have to watch it? Probably. No, no. No, I actually never watch anything. If you're hosting the reunion.

If I'm hosting the reunion, I would have to. There's for sure going to be a reunion with this. Yeah. You would have to watch our mess. So you would, so you can ask the appropriate questions. Right. Okay. You'd want to watch this though.

Yeah. Is there, is there a, well, or I could just, oh, or I could just listen to your show. There you go. And then, boom, don't need to watch it. I could do your job for you, which I feel like I do for many hosts out there. Yeah.

Yeah. So you don't want a bite? I mean, there's so much sauce. I kind of didn't know if we were doing that. Are we doing that? You do not have to. Okay, yeah. It much sauce. I kind of didn't know if we were doing that. Are we doing that? You do not have to. Okay, yeah. It also seems like a lot of picks

that would be very dangerous to eat around. There are a lot of holes in it. Wow. Either way, that's a TV show. Wait, so let's recap who's on our show. Lindsay Hubbard. Lindsay Hubbard. Tom Sandoval, Nick Vile, Paige DeSorbo, Barry Jowsey, Jessica Vestal, and Tyler Cameron and Andy Cohen. Hot summer of sauce. Hot summer of sauce.

Hot summer of sauce. Hosted by Brian Baumgartner. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that. Yeah. Who would be your, who would you bet on? I would see, I think. This is a competition. Are so I'm gonna win something. I mean, I see your clips occasionally, you know, we're besties. Are you ever mean to people? Depends on who you ask.

I see snark out of you sometimes, but for me, not enough. People, when they act stupid, you gotta call them out for being stupid. We like to think so. That's why I would be different than all the other hosts. You would be snarkier. Yeah, but not put on. That wouldn't be like,

I would be more like Simon Cowell, I guess. Just like tell it how it is. That's feel like what we do here. Okay, well then that's, yeah. We do sometimes make some people sad about the things we say about them. We don't mean to be mean, but people are sensitive. Well, reality TV people can be sensitive.

But we're talking about their characters on the show. Yeah, we don't know him as real people. So are they characters? Some would say so. We recognize that they are edited and we don't get the full scope of the things that they're doing. It may not be the most authentic moment on television,

but yet here we are. They signed up for it, so we have commentary. Got it. So when you speak to them, are you speaking to them? I'm actually, this is, I'm genuinely curious. It's like we cover it like football. Right, but are you, but are you associating that, are you acknowledging that that character

is something that is created for television, or does it becomes them, right? We acknowledge it's a TV show that's edited, and we are giving our opinions on the things that we see on TV, and we reserve to be wrong about who they are as people in the world. Correct.

I will say with the addition of people having their own podcasts and posting on social media, the lines have gotten a little more blurred. Blurred, yeah. What do you mean? Well, the said TV characters also have podcasts that will go on and and either defend or

further articulate the things that happened or things they get criticized for Which is fair game on the show, right? It's very interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting. It's a whole universe. It's very a la to like NFL players play on the field We have commentary they have podcasts now. They disagree with sports commentators. We Monday morning quarterback the shows. But I think there is a very distinct difference, right? Which the distinct difference is if I am playing a character, let's call it Bob Newhart. I don't know why I said that. I'm playing a character and I do some horrible things. Let's not call it Bob Newhart.

Are you acting or are you on a reality TV show? No, I'm acting. Okay, yeah. No one would ever associate that with me, correct? I think in most cases, I think there's some crazy fans, like the Walking Dead, you hear about like actors being treated like their characters. Right, oh, and some people.

I'm sure you get, Kevin's coming! Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Actually, occasionally someone will say that, and now in the world, someone else will say, it's Brian, and they will continue to yell Kevin at me. Like they are forcing that thing. That is a very forcing that thing.

That is a very interesting psychological thing. To me, here's the difference with where I'm going with reality television. I think if there are actions that happen that you don't have to do on that show, which then does say something about them personally. Yeah. But then it's up for debate. Like a lot of people, a lot of TV characters will say, well, that wasn't my idea. Producer fed me that line.

To which we say, you're an adult. Yep. Right. Gun wasn't to your head. Very interesting. Yeah, and then we all debate about it and the audiences will agree or disagree with us. And it's a whole fun thing, you know?

Because just like sports, they care very deeply about the people they ride for and ride against. Right, because that's what it's about, right? You're rooting for people and against other people. Yeah, we like to use the term team, like we're team. Right. And then some people are like, why do you have to be anyone's team?

It's like, this is fucking TV. We're just like, shut the fuck up. This is our sport. Right, because we're dumb. Brian, this has been so fun. Thank you. We played two games today. Yeah, thanks for coming.

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Thanks man, I appreciate it. Savory. Thank you. It's a really good cookbook. I will be cooking. There's a little bit of everything in it, that's for sure. So good, cowboy bread bowl brisket stew. That's better than fruit soup.

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I love a kebab. Will you do the audio book for me? Do you want to sign up? Like every, every page. Now that looks good. Where else can people find you, Brian? Me, personally. Promote away.

Be, be, bomb gardener. With a T. With a T. Yeah, you know, I think it's changed now, right? I think it was Twitter back in the day. My name wouldn't fit. So that's why it's BB Baumgartner. Cause Brian Baumgartner didn't fit. Brian Bruce.

Yeah. I'll never forget it. Now we know, and now we know why. Or not why, but. How? What? Nevermind. All right.

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So fun, Brian. We love Brian. So fun. What's your favorite office episode? Ooh, the marathon, the rabies walk for whatever, when it's like we finally get to see Pam and Jim together. Oh, and Michael's eating the fettuccine, I'll frame out a car. Andy's taping his nipples. That's a good one. It's a great episode. The Christmas one's good.

The Dundee's is always fun. Yeah, the casino night. I did really like casino night. Casino night's good. I love to go down rabbit holes of bloopers. My favorite is when Christmas and Michael Scott is Santa and Kevin sits on his Santa. Oh my God. Kevin sits on his lap. Oh my God. Also like the one where Andy makes his ringtone

and they hide his phone. Oh yeah. And he has to pull on like a... No, every time Andy loses his mind is... When he punches the wall. Yeah, you think they're like, okay. Who's who in our office? Who's who in our office? Who's who in our office?

Oh, man. I've never seen it, so you can't offend me. What? Oh, no. I've tried way back when, but I'm not a sitcom person. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Do you watch TV before you go to bed? Now, yes. Watch The Office. The morning of it. It's a good unwind. I'll look at it. I feel like by default, you'd have to be Michael Scott. Fine.

But he wasn't in it every season, right? I feel like by default you'd have to be Michael Scott. Yeah. Fine. But he wasn't in it every season, right? No, I want to be Will Ferrell's character. When you remember he had a cameo and he was obsessed with the Southwest motif kind of like vibe. Yeah. Who's Jim and Pam? I feel like that would be me and Nick.

It should be. It should be. Fine, then who's... is Derek Michael Scott? No. No. Who's Michael Scott? No one. Because if you were Michael Scott, that would make you Jan.

No one can match, yeah, I can't be fucking Jan. You're definitely not Jan. I feel like I'm Phyllis. You are Phyllis. I do not Phyllis. Who makes you Phyllis? She's sweet. I don't know, she's like a little aloof sometimes.

Oh, okay. Okay. Do you like a Oh, okay. Okay. Do you like to knit? No. Okay. No. She's a little clumsy. How do you feel about refrigerators?

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If you like to party. If you like to party, get the book. Anyways, all right, it's a perfect match. We got Stevin coming up shortly. Who's your favorite couple? My favorite couple? Mike and Kaz. You know, I oddly like Alara, or not oddly,

but like Alara and Stevin. They're my favorite also. I think you should win. They're the most consistent in my opinion. They definitely should win for sure. They're definitely the perfect match. I just think they're so fun and genuine and neither are each other's conventional type,

whatever that means to these people. I think, yeah, Stevin and Alarra. They have the most charisma. I really did like Elise and Justin. I really do. I really like Elise and Justin. I liked Justin a lot and I feel bad about how that all went down. Yeah.

You know, I feel like you're kind of more introverted guys don't, you know, perform as well on reality TV. Why doesn't anyone like the nice guy? But he also did, like when he did have his moments, he did seem so funny. Yeah, no, for sure. They're just like a slower burn, like Harry being like this like big personality

You're ultra extrovert, you know that it just kind of it reads better on TV You know and like those shows are all about kind of that instant kind of chemistry and excitement in the spark and I think with your Introverted guys, it's they can be a slower burn We don't have time. We've got we've got a month let's go yeah pop it out anyways that we have a lot of questions for steven so let's bring them up hey what's up steven what's up man how we doing good how are you all right getting the day started yeah did you have a late night no actually I just every night's a late night I got like to stay up late, I'm a night owl.

You're a night owl? What do you like to do at night? I'm a DJ professionally. Oh shit, okay, cool. So I do a lot of underground raves, like 4 a.m. set time, shit like that. Oh damn, damn. Yeah, so if you change your sleep schedule

when you're not doing that, then you're kinda screwed for those nights, so I kinda just stay up through the dark hours. Man, all right. Well, we have been enjoying watching you on Perfect Match. What a fun little journey you've been on. Did you enjoy doing the experience? It was wild. It was a good experience. Yeah, I feel like everything, good or bad, it is an experience in some sort of way that's positive if you can learn from it, you know?

But yeah, it was a lot of fun, great people, great house, just being able to kick it with a bunch of homies and so it was a good time. Yeah, what did you learn most from your experience on Perfect Match? Honestly, just kind of be true to me and don't take shit so seriously. When I did Two Out the Handle, it was, you know,

first reality TV show, a lot heavier mentally and like emotionally. You come in for a second one and you kind of, you get the ropes of it and kind of just be yourself, pick back and just let the world take you rather than you try and take over the world. Okay, well, period. Yeah, I've really,

I think we really enjoyed watching you and- Alara. Alara. Did you say Alara ever? Did you ever get it wrong? Cause I get it wrong a lot, but that's just- If I ever thought I was gonna get it wrong? Cause I get it wrong a lot, but that's just me. If I ever thought I was going to get it wrong,

I just said her or she. I stuck myself out of that one. Yeah, exactly. So you had a great time on Perfect Match with her. She was really great. But no, but now seriously, you guys seem like a really great couple. Did you go in having her on your mind?

Were you surprised by your connection? Like what drew you to her? No, to be fair, I don't really watch that much reality TV in general, okay like going in there they were asking like who do you want to see on the show and whatnot and like They really have many options because I don't watch much of it so I kind of just went in like I said open-minded level-headed and you kind of know what's right for you in the moment and so when like the communication was on point and the humor was on point and just like the experience itself kind of got lifted when she came in the house that's just kind of how I knew. That's awesome.

You seemed like watching you, it's been enjoyable because you've been like a breath of fresh air. You've been pretty open about like, obviously you're on Too Hot to Handle. It seems like everyone on Too Hot to Handle like at least has some sort of fuck boy pass, but whatever. But you seem like really committed to like getting to know her, Laura.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think pretty much anyone on any reality show has some sort of past, especially like men that are on these dating shows and stuff like that. A majority of them have a past like that. At the end of the day, I don't think, you know, it's not necessarily a negative. It's just a way of life that was before. For sure. But you, I guess my point is like on this show, you seemed like, like you, you had a

real connection and like, while a lot of other guys were flip-flopping and Cass seemed to like kind of always like Micah but always seemed interested in talking to someone new. Obviously Harry, you know, we'll get into Harry in a little bit but like Harry's Harry, but like you were just always very consistent and you really made, you know, Alara feel very secure. You didn't seem to play a lot of games, was that deliberate, or was that just speaking to your guys' connection? I think a little bit, but I think that's kind of

just the person I've become in age and time, that if I see something that I'm happy with, I try not to fuck it up. Try being the key word, but so on a national platform, I think you try a little bit harder to make sure that you're not perceived in any sort of way. But no, there are definitely definitely a lot of it was just connection and just like the basis that if someone else did come in that had taken my attention away or maybe feel some type of way. Yeah, I would have explored it more. And that just really wasn't the case. I had a good thing going think on. With the whole hairy thing, obviously I feel like y'all became very close friends throughout this experience. Yeah. I mean we have to ask you, did he kiss Melinda? I'm gonna say it again, I plead the fifth. I got no idea. You have no idea? Okay. Wasn't there. I was at the general vicinity. What did you see, yeah, if anything?

Yeah, you know, I try not to look after him too much. He's a grown man. For sure. But sometimes he needs a little bit of overseeing. But yeah, that day I kind of just kicked back. Didn't really pay attention to anyone else. So might've happened, might not have happened. I don't know, I guess you'll just have to wait and see.

Gotcha, gotcha. I don't know. Okay, all right. That being said, you did, I guess, go to Jess in Harry's defense and kind of like double down on Harry's story about like Melinda being there for her 15 minutes. Do you still feel that way or no?

I think everybody that does these shows is there for some sort of 15 minutes. For sure, but I guess Harry kind of singled out Melinda and kind of made it about Harry's fame. I mean, I don't know. I don't want to speak for somebody else. I think at the end of the day, there were a lot of people that Melinda could've went for

and she is only going for Harry in this aftermath and all this. So I really don't know. I don't want to speak for anybody else, but there were a lot of people there that something could have happened and it seemed to only happen with Harry, so. They talked about Harry's success on OnlyFans

and how much he made in one day, but I was checking out your Instagram, hottie that you are. Uh. Okay. And it's a, it's a very tantalizing page that you have. Tantalizing? It's a, you're on OnlyFans a it's a very tantalizing page that you have. Tantalize it.

You're an only fan. That's a big word. That's a good word right there. I think my favorite I think my favorite post was let me let me grab it because you only have so many photos on. Yeah. I keep it. I keep it really

keep it limited. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be I'll be coming back around. I'm just kind of letting letting this whole thing do its thing, but I'll be back there. I think my favorite post was location pound town. Is that the bear? Yeah, you're riding a giant teddy bear. And then the caption is,

if you wanna see everything else the bear got to see, you know where to click. Devil face, devil face. Damn. Do you show your penis on your OnlyFans? Go try and buy it, I guess I'll buy it. Oh yeah, proven salesman. Alright, research.

Are you willing to share, like maybe not the exact number, but like what is like, what is a range, how much can one make on OnlyFans? Like should we be considering? Well we know how much Harry made because they use that as a- Well, just in one day. I don't know if that's consistent. Yeah.

That's when he signed up. I think it's a give and take. Obviously, if you have a bigger following, you're gonna make more. I don't think, a lot of people believe like if you show more, you will make more. I don't think that's the case. I think, you know, if somebody really puts their mind

and looks at this as a job and does their thing, they can make easily six figures a month. But you have to recognize the idea that you've got social platforms, TikTok, Instagram, stuff like that to boost yourself. There's way to market yourself and handle it. So you just have to look at it like anything else that's marketable. But six figures, clean number, I think is pretty acceptable for a lot of people to be able to make.

That's cool. Congratulations. It's pretty acceptable for a lot of people to be able to make. That's cool. Congratulations, Stevan. Thank you. Thank you. Bravo. Let's round of applause. Am I considering quitting? Yeah.

You made a sex work. I gotta do a full-time job here. They've got LFTV. You could do the podcast on there. Shit. Oh, you know what? Okay. Okay.

What do you like to do for fun, Stevan, outside of making great TV? Making music. I got a dog, so me and him just kick it all the time. And I try and keep in touch with homies from back home, but I'm fucking horrible on my phone. So I'll play Call of Duty or something with them to do some sort of connection basis thing. But yeah, really, I just kick it, man.

I watch TV and I work. What is the most surprising thing about you, other than your life? I'm not as much of a douchebag as I see him on the internet Okay, I really I can be a dickhead to people I don't like but really I am a good kid with like a genuine soul I don't think a lot of people I think they're realizing it now as they see the show go on But I'm like a fucking sweetheart on the perfect match. Yeah, but on Instagram, I look like an asshole He made breakfast for a lot and I was like the only guy to the perfect match. Yeah, but on Instagram I look like an asshole. He made breakfast for Alara

and I was like the only guy to do that. You didn't make breakfast. I made breakfast for just about everyone in that house. Yeah, I like to take care of my people. So. How was it with your sleep schedule there? Were you staying up all night? Oh, that was horrible.

I got like four hours of sleep at night. They had to stop giving out Red Bulls on set because I would be up till like six in the morning but not able to sleep. God. They had to stop giving out Red Bulls on set because I would be up till like six in the morning not able to sleep. God. Oh my God. What was your favorite competition that you did? I'm a big physique person

like doing physical competitions and stuff. So I think the one that Laura and I won was like the ball between us running through the water. I think that was fun just cause it was more of a test of like strategy and physical. By the end of it, I was exhausted, on the ground, dead for five minutes. So I like the coming together of the different needs

to do a challenge. What is your stance on Brocode? Do you have, it seems like a lot of the guys subscribe to Bro-Code. And I'm all one for having my buddies back, but I'm kind of a big right is right and wrong is wrong. And sometimes I feel like being a really good friend is sometimes having that tough conversation with your boys,

being like, hey man, you're kind of being a dick, or maybe you should come clean. But I'm curious your thoughts. And also I wanna ask this in the nicest possible way, but why does it seem like on the show the rest of the guys are just riding Harry's dick so hard? Like why does it come across that way? Would that be accurate or like can you elaborate?

I don't think it was necessarily riding dick. I'll answer your second part first. I don't think it was necessarily riding dick. I think he has like a really big like humor around him. So he can make light of a lot of things and just have a good time with it. And so I think that has something to do with it. I will also say that the girls kind of had a crazy

girl code in the house. Okay, which was that? Like they didn't want new girls in. They came up with strategies to make sure that the girls in the house could stay in the house. They were talking about sending the guys on dates with girls that obviously weren't for them so that they wouldn't have to leave. So I think we were kind of cornered into this bro code situation

where like if no one was going to look out for us except for the guys. And so, yeah, I think that had a lot to do with that. I think we kind of just had to stick together as much as possible because they could have torn us apart easy if they tried a little harder. Gotcha. After watching this back, I mean, Harry's been catching a lot of criticism online.

Do you like, has anything surprised you? I know Harry does like seem, his like thing is to try to make light of situations, but like, do you kind of agree with his behavior, disagree? Would you, as a friend, recommend he approach his situation with Jess differently? How do you see it now, having watched it back? Well, so I haven't watched it.

I don't watch shows that I'm on. Okay, all right. Protecting that mental health. Obviously, I've seen the social media and I know what's going on with all of it. I think at the end of the day, there's rights and wrongs to all of it. I'm not sure if you saw on there, but I did coach him through a lot of like

stop being a dickhead at certain points. We saw that. We appreciated that. Yeah. Yeah, the man. Yeah. So I do believe in right is right and wrong is wrong to some degree. There's obviously a gray area, but I also think at the end of the day, it is reality TV. It is meant to be entertaining. And that's definitely a factor why Harry does get called on to do some of these shows because he will do that, whether it's going to fuck his image up or not,

or make him look like an asshole. He will make a good show. That's true. So I think obviously you have to give and take both of those. I don't think he's always right. I think he could definitely handle things better. But I also think everybody's human. We're still gonna make mistakes and do what we have to do for ourselves and our livelihood.

So. You referred to Micah as a fun sponge. What, what, what is that? The fun sponge is somebody that, you know, will take like a really good situation or like a fun time and kind of just like dull it out a little bit. I think in general, I'm sure she's great. I haven't hung out with her outside the show,

but I'm sure that in general she's great. But in the situation that was with Kaz, Kaz is a very humorous, outspoken, loud person when I've been out with him. But in the house, he was very relaxed, quiet, almost docile. And so I felt like she was kind of just sucking the fun out of him. house he was very relaxed, quiet, almost docile. And so I felt like she was kind of just sucking the fun out of him. I've never heard of fun sponge, but I've used

the phrase energy sucker to describe people. Same thing. Like the energy out of a room. Yeah. To me like an energy sucker is usually someone who just demands everyone's attention over anything else and it's just like no matter what's going on they just suck the energy out of a room or the people. Yeah, I don't I don't think she was as much demanding attention.

I think it was more just like things were a bit more serious to her in moments that didn't need to be. And it made it a little heavier, I think, for Cass. Obviously, I'm speaking for Cass, so don't take my word for it. But you were there. You know, we appreciate your take, yeah, for sure. From the outside perspective, I think he was a lot more fun before they got together. Minus you and Alara. Alara.

Alara, I said it. Alara. Alara. Just use a British accent, it'll help. Alara. There you go. There you go. Who was the strongest couple in the house that you saw?

To be honest, even though I just had my statement, I do think it was Kaz and Micah. Simply for the fact that this is a show where you're meant to date around and find something that's right for you, find your perfect match or whatever. So the fact that you're going through that experience and you're doing it for what it is

and you're still managing to keep each other at the end of it or stick together through it in some degree. I think that's a pretty good quality to have in a relationship. Okay. The boardrooms are, I'm curious about the boardrooms. Are those completely at the discretion of cast? Like, or that really? Okay. Interesting. So production will put on your options because there's so many options outside of the house.

So they'll put on a few and then you pick from that. Okay. But yeah, entirely up to cast of who they wanna be, putting with who, you just have to work through your partner's thought process. They don't show any of this, but I'm assuming or wondering if like before a couple went into the boardroom, were people going up to them either together or separately to try to negotiate like,

hey, don't send me on a date or please send me on a date or things like that or? Yeah, there's definitely some of that going on. I don't think it's as big as you would think it was, but I even did it. When I was with Xanthe, I said, I wanna test if I should stick with her or if someone else would be there.

So if you have the opportunity, feel free to send me on a date. I think it was more people putting themselves as options than begging or pleading for it. But yeah, definitely some sort of behind the scenes there. Okay. You guys did a wife swap at one point in the season. We did a wife swap.

It seemed pretty normal for you guys. Like what was the... How did that come about? Like did that not feel like kind of awkward? Just being like, hey, we're gonna swap. No, that was the craziest day for us. I'm not gonna lie. We...

Essentially Kaz came and talked to me and he said, I don't really think I'm feeling Xanthe. And I said, I don't really think I'm not gonna lie. We, essentially Kaz came and talked to me and he said, I don't really think I'm feeling Zanthi and I said, I don't really think I'm feeling Micah. And he was like, maybe we should like just switch so that we can, you know, like get to know other people and stay in the house or whatever. And we're like, yeah, sure. Like, are you into her?

And he's like, yeah, I'm kind of into her. So we went to go find them and they were coming to us to tell us the same thing. I don't know how it's possible. It was such a wild occurrence that I'm pretty sure Kaz and I just started running around afterwards because it was just such a mind fuck.

Yeah, I don't think you could have planned that or written that as well as it went. Okay. It was just such a funny moment for me. I was like, has this happened before? Yeah, no, no, not personally. I don't know. See the rest on OnlyFans.

Yeah, exactly. So you guys play a lot of games in the house, both in the compatibility challenges and just in the house where you are kissing each other. What's the, what's the thought on that? Like, is that considered cheating? Is that a pass? What what is what you have kissed Holly? What what is that?

You know, we did the kissing challenge, right? I think obviously that's a pass because everybody's involved in it and everybody's got to, you know, totally do something. I think if we're all there together doing it, playing the same game, whatever, I think it's fine. If someone wants to be pissed over it, you have your right to be pissed over it as well. But I think if everybody in the relationship is in the same area playing said game and it happens,

I think it's fine unless, you know, it's not fine. Then don't do it. Then just say no to the challenge. Like that that's that's on you as a man or a woman to say, I'm not gonna do that. I think it's fine, but I was in a stable relationship. I don't know. Who had the bad breath? I can't do him dirty like that.

There's no kiss and tell rule like that. Oh my gosh. He's a gentleman. I'm sorry. Respect. I gotta tell you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that. I don't know why you're so into that.

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My parents made it up. Oh wow. My mom wanted to name me Steve. My dad wanted to name me Evan. I came out and they didn't have it figured out. Compromise. So they were like, let's just put Steve and Evan together and make Stevan.

Love it. Love it, yeah. Great. It fits you. It really does. It seems. One of a kind. Yeah, truly.

You're gonna go with the fuck you're gonna get. Obviously we're excited to see your relationship with Alara unfold on Perfect Match, but regardless of how things play out, what is next for you? Do you plan on maybe doing more TV in the future? Are you gonna retire? Are you focusing on your OnlyFans?

Like what? DJ. DJing, obviously. Yeah, so I'm in production mode right now. I'm making an EP for music. And then I'm retiring from dating shows. Okay. I'm open to, you know, like some sort of survivalist or challenge show or something like that. Like more.

Traitors. Strategy and physique would be fun. Survivor. Yeah, exactly. Amazing race. Shit like that. Open to that. But yeah, really just exactly. Amazing race, shit like that. Open to that. But yeah, really just focusing on music,

focusing on making money so that I don't have to be on international television shirtless showing myself off every day. Okay. There are worse things in the world, you know? There are worse things in the world, but I have to believe there's better ones too. All right, buddy.

Well, we appreciate you taking the time. Best of luck the rest of the way. We are excited to see how your relationship unfolds and how things play out. But other than that, yeah, you want to plug whatever you want to plug? I mean, shit, OF.com, Stevan Ditter, go make your bread up for me.

Make your own bread. Let's do some shit together. All right. I love you all. Go see what that bear's seeing. Yay. Yay. Thank you. to my music, I love you all. Go see what that bear sing. Yay! Thank you guys, I appreciate you. All right, take care, you as well. All right, so Seven.

They definitely had a, the bro code makes sense in the house for sure. The bro code currently to date in this moment where he tends to still, you know, not want to say anything negative about Harry. He didn't watch though. So if we take him at his word, you know, I think he might not be fully aware of Harry's behavior.

Okay, that's true. That's true. Let's pause. Yeah, I wonder if he saw the cream pie comment. I was thinking about that and I was gonna ask him, but if he didn't watch, it's just like, you know, that's almost, I don't wanna keep saying it almost because it's kind of reminding the audience of what,

and like that's, I feel like puts those people who were talked about in a bad light. Yes. And that was Harry's big mouth and not really anyone else's, so I didn't really see the point in bringing that up. Harry did say that today's Harry, 27 year old grown ass man looking back at Harry a year ago,

I would have never done this, talking about his comment about Holly. I guess he's saying who he is today would have never made that comment about Holly. But he is wearing a I love gas lighters t-shirt on his podcast, which just feels wrong. And I oop. I love gaslighting.

I love gaslighting. But 25 year old Harry was saying how 26 year old Harry was here to not do the same things about 25 year old Harry. He does it every year. It's literally like when you make a New Year's resolution and then a month later you're like, I'm just gonna do this again next year. Yeah.

Try again next year. Harry's good at expecting an unlimited amount of chances to not... It's just really crazy to me because people defend his actions and saying, well, he's just so funny and he just makes light of everything. And it's like, okay, well, I guess sure, yeah.

If I'm a bad person, I'm gonna just, if that's the way to like win people over is just like be funny and like the way that he's on his podcast saying, I love the t-shirt and he's like, I was, I'm an Olympic level love bomber. Like I'm such a gas lighter. I'm such a manipulator. It's like.

Yeah, he dismisses it all. He downplays it. Yeah. It's like that. And that's his secret sauce, if you will. I guess it works for some people. I really hope we find out, we get to the bottom of the Melinda Harry situation

in the finale. Oh yeah, I feel like there has to be something somewhere. Has to be. There has to be. There's no way. Because like you're always mic'd and even if you're not on camera, I feel like there's just no way.

There's nowhere to hide. Reality TV loves a hot mic moment. Like that's the thing. It's like, I'm like there's just no way. There's nowhere to hide. Reality TV loves a hot mic moment. That's the thing. And people forget and I just, I don't believe that there's just no way that. Even if it's not a. The question is will they hear it? Well even if it's not a hot mic moment,

give the mic to a producer or a PA. Make them go on mic. You know? You want them to break the fourth wall. I would break it. Okay. I saw everything. We're all the fourth wall. I break it. Okay. I saw everything I feel like we're obviously on the same page here, but I feel like we're all

Team Melinda definitely. Yeah, there was definitely a kiss. We all Believe Okay, well, I guess you'll see what happens. I still think these guys love writing, hear his dick. No, yeah, they absolutely do. Him saying, plea the fifth is him writing the dick, though. Quite literally. Yeah, yeah. Like, just say it. Did they kiss? I plead the fifth. Oh, okay.

All right, well, sounds like not a no. So... But he did say he wasn't around, so. No, he said, I was in the vicinity. He was in the vicinity. But I did not see. I was like, the boy's area was not that big. Right.

Yeah. But another question, because these guys all rode hard for Harry. They also all, like, we've seen the pregnant comment, Melinda saying like, oh yeah, well, he also said, like, he would get me pregnant. He admitted to carrying her to the bathroom because her feet hurt. And then the pregnant comment, Melinda saying like, oh yeah, well he also said like he would get me pregnant. He admitted to carrying her to the bathroom because her feet hurt.

And then- Because her feet hurt. And that's all he said. He was like, I knew it was wrong. I knew it wouldn't look good. Like I wanted to protect you in autumn. Like it's not type of dad, whatever the fuck. And then Melinda, she's like, he told me that,

Jess is like, yeah, he told me that he carried you to the bathroom. And she's like, and that we kissed. And then later on, she's like, also he me that Jess was like, yeah, he told me that he carried you to the bathroom. And she's like, and that we kissed. And then later on, she's like, also he said he wanted to get me pregnant because I'm 30 years old and, and, and, and, and. Okay. Then Stefan goes to Jess and is like, you know,

having Harry's back and is like, you gotta like believe him and whatever, whatever. And it's like, you, someone had to hear that comment. Someone, like it didn't just happen, just Harry and Melinda, this is a small vicinity. They're all up each other's butt. They're all like hanging out together. So it's like, someone heard something, someone saw something.

Or they either saw something or they saw that Harry and Melinda were hiding out somewhere where they couldn't be seen. You know what I'm saying? They either saw something or they saw that Harry and Melinda were hiding out somewhere where they couldn't be seen. You know what I'm saying? It's like either it was either stuff happened in front of them or if nothing else bare minimum. It was, you know, I don't know, but they were like hiding in some bushes for a period of time.

I didn't see it, but we didn't see that. Like talking about Tonelli's point, like either Chris or Stevan, like none of the guys either said like, listen, I was around here the whole time. Like it just didn't happen. I'm just telling you I didn't see that. Like talking about, to Nellie's point, like either Chris or Stevan, like none of the guys either said like, listen, I was around here the whole time, like it just didn't happen. I'm just telling you, I didn't see it. Or they could have said, well, this is what I saw, but like also like they did disappear, like behind the bushes.

Like it's, which one is it? Like either you definitely saw them not doing something, you know, they're not really, the guys aren't talking about what Harry and Melinda did or didn't do. They're just basically gaslighting Melinda and trying to disparage her credibility without even addressing the real issue. I also know why she would,

what would she have to gain to lie about it? And it kind of reminds me of Miami Girl, where it's like, why would she fly across the country to say that we had sex and then you tell me no, we did not? Well, they said for her, they accused her for 15 minutes. And guess what ended up being true. Yeah, let's stop accusing women of getting their 15 minutes. We don't get any like notch on our bell.

They're like notoriety being like, no, I made out with Harry. Why would I lie? Slet shame for it. Why would I lie? Guys get like a fucking, oh yeah, brother is fucking good, but girls like you're literally the biggest lie. Yeah. All right, well, a lot to unpack this weekend.

The finale of Perfect Match does drop this weekend. We'll find out if there is any video evidence or maybe we'll just constantly be wondering for the rest of time what happened between the two, but certainly a lot to unfold. We'll find out who is the perfect match and then so much more. Plus we do have Micah for Going Deeper, a bonus. Going Deeper, so again, next week, Monday Ask Nick, reality recap on Tuesday, a special Going Deeper

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