The Viall Files - E773 RR - Love Island Exclusive w/ Casa Amor Insider Sydney, The Bachelorette, and Everything Showers

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

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Unfortunately vacation is over, I miss the lake. I am so sad. I am having a lake withdrawals. It was so nice. Baby, we had such a good time. No, it was so nice. It was also nice to be back with your own stuff. I took the longest everything shower last night.

What is an everything shower? You do everything. You shave the leg, you shave, you do a body scrub, a hair mask, a face. This is common with the women. Yes, every Sunday. I do it too. I do an everything shower.

I feel like I do an everything shower too, every time I shower. You take a five minute shower every morning. How long is your everything shower? Oh long. Like an hour? I love to save water, and I love that I'm saving water in California

because we are in a drought, but kind of long. So there's a lot of stuff I have to do. We have all the appropriate green stuff, but also it's long. We're eco-friendly, but it is long. But that's what an everything shower is. Exactly, that's why you do it once a week. You get it all out of the way,

and then the rest of them are short. And sometimes the water's not running the whole time. You turn the shower? Sometimes. My roommate does that. I turn off the water sometimes. To be eco-friendly for Mother Earth? No, just like when I'm shaving,

I turn off the water for a second. But how do you get that seen? How do you rinse off the water? Do you not just get a shiver of coldness? No, I just take like a break and then I turn it back on. It is proven to save a lot of water actually. Oh, I do not doubt it does that. Yeah.

But when you turn it back on. No, it's definitely smart. But when you turn it back on, is it cold? For like a second. Yeah, there's a disruption in your. Yeah, I feel like this is ruining the like spa like. Yeah, spa like. But otherwise the hot water runs out. Runs out? Huh? I don't know. Where do you live? Yeah, I feel like this is ruining the like spa like.

But otherwise the hot water runs out. Runs out? I don't know. Where do you live? No, like if it. The water tower. I do need to change the water valves. You guys, I've been living in my new place

for over a month now and our water valves still need to be replaced and my shower doesn't get hot. Oh no. Well that's convenient for the summer though. No. So you turning off the shower is a new thing. Sorry. No, I've always done that.

You don't use hot water in the summer? I feel like I use it less. Like I value a cold shower in the summer. Are you taking cold showers when you're hot? Well after a run, for sure. You wake up and cold shower that shit? Absolutely not. But it is good for you to do that.

It definitely is. Yeah. Oh, the cold bath plunge guys out there, I'm like, yeah, cold. As much bath plunge guys out there, I'm gonna be like, cold. As much as I crave a cold shower when I'm hot, there's nothing that is gonna make me take a cold shower. Amen. Yeah. I'll skip.

But you will turn the water off while you're in the shower. Yeah, no, but when I turn it back on, I'm not standing in the cold. I'm just standing on the side, I wait for it to get hot again. The fact that you have to get out of the way and like, just so you don't get the blast of cold.

It feels like more work than just leaving it on. Leonardo DiCaprio would be proud of you. He would. For saving this earth and water. You are a saint to mother earth. Well, I don't know. How's your unborn child doing? Huge.

Listen, they said River was huge too. How did, what did they say? I think they said she was gonna be like eight and a half pounds. We thought we were maybe having an alien. Well, they also were like, her head is massive. They're like, she's a huge bitch. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

I am, I, at my last appointment, they were like, this baby is weighing in the 99th percentile for weight. 99. They said, they said River's head was like, everyone said it was massive. And then it turned out to be like average. But also I do look at it at certain angles and I'm like, maybe it is a little large.

But it is Nick's head. So of course he's gonna, you know. No, I was a big baby. So I was expecting this, but he's already seven pounds. See, they said River was eight and she showed up at six. And you're getting induced. So I feel like it'll be- Well, that's why. Because he's, yeah.

Because he's huge. Yeah, yeah. She's like, I'm gonna, we're gonna go early. I'm like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. So wait, wait, back to everything showers. Other than shaving, what is another thing you shower?

I just said, it's a hair mask, a body scrub. You do all your face, you're exfoliating, you shave everything, you do body, like it's just, you do everything. And you're everything showers, Justin? The same, like exfoliate. Abs fucking literally. Near the bottom, because I don't shave down there.

Afraid of that. You what? You what? Do like a hair mask. You near down there. I near down there. You do? Yeah, I know it's ballsy,

but like sensitive near won't burn you if you do it. You're afraid of shaving down there? Putting a razor down there? That's not absolutely not. Manscaped bro, like what's up? That's true, I don't have one of them, but like a blade down there is scary. Just wax.

Even scarier. The Reed Whacker 5.0? Yeah, the lawnmower. Manscaped. All right, well, what, wait, household headlines, all right. How did we get here? Because we were talking about the lake

and I was saying, I was happy to get home and take my everything shower and do my full skincare routine and like put my pajamas on and get in the bed, you know, get in our Helix mattress. We got, yeah, we got a Helix. With our Brooklyn and sheets. We did, we got two Cento Lake.

It was also great though, we actually had like a lot of friends come up. I felt like Nellie and I were, we were like family shopping in a way. Oh, what does that mean? Well, we have River. She's great. We've obviously talked about having more kids some day.

What does it look like? I don't know. We just started becoming parents. A lot has to do with Natalie's choices. When she's ready, if she's ready, yada, yada, yada. She did throw it out there that she was open to the idea over break. But then-

I just saw a video of a woman with her newborn twins and I was like, wait, she was literally, it was like right after the delivery. And I was like, oh my God, I kind of missed that. Like, should we have another? I was like, babe. Whoa. Whoa.

But my friend, I have a lot of hometown friends, they've had some kids already. And so like one of them has three kids, one of them has two boys, and they're a little bit older. And so it was like, do we want two kids? What is three kids like? They have one family, they're all this is a girl, they have two boys afterwards,

and they kinda had them all at once. And it was more like, we were asked a lot of questions about like, how long did you wait, what was it like? Yeah, we were kinda like family shopping in terms of like, how long did you wait? What was it like? Yeah, we were like, kind of like family shopping in terms of like, how do we want our family to be? Well, yeah, because it's like, what's the ideal age gap for siblings? Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, well, yeah, I mean, you want them to be close in age, ideally if you want them to be close and then you don't know like, you know, the gender and if that will make impact on how close they are. Also one of my friends, I'm really proud of him, he showed up, Viori, head to toe. I wore a lot of Viori at the lake. Also guys, if you're listening,

buy some Viori for the lake if you're showing up. Seriously, he shows up, he's a Viori king. So much that his kids are like, notice that he wears Viori. And then he was like, oh, I forgot my gooder glasses. He has gooder glasses. He definitely listens to the show. I was gonna say, does he listen?

We got a Helix Max, he had something else. Bubbly. Oh yeah, he was drinking bubbly. I was gonna say, does he listen? We got a helix of action. He had something else. Bubbly. Oh yeah, he was drinking bubbly. I'm so proud of you. What is going on? He looked great though. I gotta say, he looked great in the VRE and the gooder glasses at the lake.

And he was well hydrated. This outfit is brought to you by the Vilephiles. It really was. Anyways, Lindsay Hubbard's pregnant. Congratulations. Congratulations Lindsay Hubbard. Yeah, all right, we Hubbard's pregnant. Congratulations. Congratulations to Lindsay Hubbard. Yeah, all right, we're starting household headlines. Yeah, household headlines.

Household headlines, Lindsay Hubbard is pregnant. Can I say I called this a month ago? Justin did call this, Justin. We're not one for rumors. No, not at all. On this show, obviously, because a lot of rumors can be true. A lot of rumors can be false.

Justin came in guns a blazing when, well, like a, well, you tell the story. It's like a month ago. Cause like, I don't believe in spreading rumors either, but this rumor was like too good not to be true, you know? So basically they announced the traders cast and we saw that Sierra was on it. So a lot of people were like, this is random. Why Sierra? Like the summer house representation.

I didn't understand that by the way. I felt like I was like, she's as good as anyone. I don't, but I- Like her and Wes, that was like massive. But I get it in comparison of like Lindsay and Karl or Kyle and Amanda, they're like longer running and they're bigger. She wasn't as an OG.

Yeah, exactly. And you thought as a first summer house cast representative of- So they're like Lindsay or Amanda or Kyle in it. So basically these rumors were widespread. I still think Sierra's a star. were widespread. Sierra's a star. Go ahead. She is a star.

Um, so basically there was these widespread rumors on Bravo blogs that Dorinda from New York Housewives told the producers that Lindsay was pregnant. She got kicked off the show and then they replaced her with Sierra. So those are rumors. A Bravo source came out and was like, there's absolutely no truth to that. Then Lindsay commented on a post of one of the rumors saying this was awful, super disappointing and sad. So basically-

Confirming. What is Dorinda have to gain from telling producers that she pregnant? That's the thing. So a lot of people are like, it was random that Dorinda was in the mix, but then- I don't think Dorinda did it out of spite. Dorinda is just a talker.

She's a New York upstate girly that's just like, mwah, mwah, mwah, mwah, mwah. So I can see her being like, oh, you guys put Lindsay on here, but I heard Lindsay's pregnant, like, and that dropping the bomb, but not like. Yeah, so Bravo is like, that's not true. Lindsay kind of cooperates that it's true. Then she's in Paris at like this restaurant

and drinking a drink, and the Bravo Sphere found out that they went to the restaurant, found the restaurant, went on the menu. The only drink that looks like the drink she was drinking was a mocktail. That is, that is some. That is some sleuthing. So everybody was like, okay, these rumors came out,

she made this comment and she's drinking a mocktail, she's pregnant. That's gnarly. And then she was on the Skinny But Not Fat podcast and she addressed the rumors denying everything. She's like, I'm not pregnant, it's not me. Well, that's weird. Which is kind of valid though,

if she was earlier in the pregnancy. Was she asked directly by Amanda? Well, it was eluded, it's not me. She lied. Which is kind of valid though, if she was earlier in the pregnancy. Was she asked directly by Amanda? Well, it was eluded. It was like, there's rumors of someone being pregnant on your cast. If she's not ready to announce, you have to lie. So that's valid. But she's pregnant.

I gotta say though, Lindsay is nothing, Lindsay is a professional TV maker. It's not a coincidence that her announcement of said pregnancy is coinciding with the beginning of the filming of Summer House. Like she didn't bury, she didn't waste the lead on anything other than her show. That's a professional, good for her.

And then what, she had a quote, his feelings are no longer my responsibility when talking about Carl. I can't wait to see her, because I know my hormones made me bat shit crazy and like a little angry. And I just like cannot wait to see her even more. Activated pregnant limit.

And then her be like, sorry, I'm pregnant. And they can't say anything about it. Nothing, you really can't. I mean, they'll try. No, yesterday, Danny, we were supposed to go to Art's deli for lunch and then he changed the plan and I started bawling. Yeah, no, absolutely not.

I was like, what's wrong with me? You had that in your head, you were prepared. You were like, this is what I'm like. Thinking about the sandwich. Yeah, no, absolutely not. I was like, what's wrong with me? You had that in your head, you were prepared, you were like, this is what I'm like. Thinking about the sandwich. Yeah, I just started bawling. That first bite. I lost it and he's like, what's wrong? I'm like, I really don't know why I'm crying.

That's funny. I was trying to think of things that I got super upset over while pregnant. You really weren't though. You asked me that the other week about things that, like that would be a perfect example. You asked me that the other week about things that, like that would be a perfect example. You never did that. Like you definitely had emotions, I guess,

but there was never a moment where like, oh my God, what is going on? Where it was like, and you're like, I don't know. I'm just, like, there was never really, you never really had that. I do remember, I think you said something one time, like a little snappy and I was like, why are you being mean to me? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Like you're just so sensitive and everything's like but that that may have made sense

Because I probably was maybe a little short or snappy and you know And most of the time you might not have thought anything of it, but it wasn't like hey, should we go to McDonald's instead? I haven't thought anything of it, but it wasn't like, hey, should we go to McDonald's instead? No! My favorite actually, I'll never forget the story of y'all in New York and you wanted a donut. Oh my. And you were like sitting at a table

and you were just like, I don't know, I'm hot. There's a bee that won't leave me alone. You won't feed me. This is the funniest rant. We were at the rooftop of restoration hardware. She's like, I just want a fucking donut. And the service was not, you know, it was fun. They were so slow.

It was one of those where like, you're like, I have been sitting here with my napkin on my plate for hours, where are you? And all I wanted was a donut. I was so ready to leave. And you're in New York and I went on Instagram, is there any good donut? We ended up at Dunkin' Donuts.

She's like, this donut is shit. I was pissed. And they used it something, like it was like, that it's hard to find a good donut in New York City. And I was like, how? Yeah. That's what I was shocked. Literally how?

But there wasn't a- Go to a bagel shop, a cookie shop. We were looking them up. We were sitting there, we were reading reviews because I was like, I don't want to be let down. Like I want a good donut. And then I was let down anyway. So like we should have just gone to the bakery.

The only thing that was close was Dunkin' Donuts. This was when she was sick, you know, when she was nauseous and it was, we didn't have time to get into a cab or an Uber or walk or a subway 15 minutes for a donut. No, we needed one immediately. It was the funniest rant. I forgot about the bee, there was a bee

that like wouldn't leave and I was like this fucking, I was like, Nick, you have to kill this bee because I will not survive. Oh yeah, that was fun. Anyways, that's gonna be great. Like professional, she's showing up, Summer House. How does that work though? Cause it's always drinking and partying.

So she's just there and then her mystery boyfriend is a part of it. Yeah, he is mystery, right? We just saw his hands in the pit. Well, I think it's like a perfect match for her too because it says that he's a high powered profession. He's a doctor that invested in bio energy, I think it's like a perfect match for her too, because it says that he's a high-powered profession. He's a doctor that invested in bioenergy, I want to say. OK.

And he doesn't want to be in the limelight, so I'm like, biotech investing. This is like perfect for Lindsay. Perfect for her. You know, so much compatibility. Yeah. You know, I will get into it later when we get into Love Island USA, the new best show on television.

It's so fucking good. I love the new best show on television. It's so fucking good. It's so, I'm not trying to get ahead. Justin was like, I can't believe it's every single day. Like that is insane. And I was like, I fucking love it. I didn't know. Thank God. I hate you.

It's a little too much. You know what you're watching. It's not too much for me though. I thought it was too much too. And then I was like, I can't wait for the next episode. Oh, it's out tonight. Oh, there's one out tomorrow. Oh, yay, yay. Like it's not too much to me though. I thought it was too much too. And then I was like, I can't wait for the next episode. Oh, it's out tonight. Oh, there's one out tomorrow. Oh, yay, yay.

Like it's one thing to binge, but when you have to keep actively like re-binging, re-binging, I'm like, oh my God. No, and once you- It's addicting though. It's addicting. It is very addicting. And no, like objectively, it is a lot,

given how much TV we watch in general. And for something like that, it's fucking crazy. But, but not to jump ahead. But competitive, like Lindsay should never. But not to jump ahead. But compatible, like, Lindsay should never have been dating a Carl. Again, Lindsay needed a finished product, she needed a guy who was good, he wasn't figuring his shit out,

he's made his investments, whatever, maybe a little older, I don't know if his age was the important part, but yeah, and Carl, good for him. Figure himself out, start an alcohol-free bar, fail, start again. Maybe Carl just has a lot more trying and failing before he finds his thing.

We all have to trial and fail. And Lindsay just didn't have the appetite for that. I also love that her announcement was a clear blue brand deal. I peep that too. Keep it consistent. She waited specifically. Get your bag.

She's like, who can I? Get your bag. An absolute professional. Yeah. Yeah. I think Carl needs a Hawk to a. I think that looks solid his way. He probably does.

I love Justin's transitions. He probably does. He probably hasn't had that ever. No. Are you guys familiar with Hot 2? Everyone's familiar with Hot 2. Everyone knows. For those who don't know though, who is she?

She was a lady in Nashville doing some man in the street work. Well, someone else. I don't know who did the man in the street. a show, a podcast, some guy, a comedian, whatever, she was interviewed, how do you turn a guy on or something? So basically the interviewer asked her what's your best sex advice or tip, and she basically said, you gotta hock to it on it.

Gotta hock to it on that thing. And spit on that thing. Maybe I bet you can do it with a good impression of it. You're something else. I think- There's a chambliss, you got chambliss to call it. We do need chambliss to do it. He thinks-

Natalie's best friend, bridesmaid, maid of honor, looks almost identical to the Haq Tua girl and kind of looks and sounds like her. She does sound like her. If we could bring her on the show and say it's the Haq Tua girl and 70% of our audience would believe it. I wonder, let me call her

and see if she'll say it real quick. Yes, hello, yes. We are currently live on the podcast and I was calling to see if you could give me an impression of Ms. Hawk Tua. Oh God. She's like, oh, you gotta give him that Hawk Tua and spin on that thing, you get me? You do sound just like her.

Thanks, Shama. Okay, call you later, love you, bye. Bye. Anyways, yeah, she's gone, like the world's gone bonkers over this girl. Yeah, she's making appearances and selling her. I am shocked. I mean, like, cute, funny. Shocked. I just, I didn't, the way it's blown up as much as it is, I mean, good for her. I feel like this always happens, like once every couple of months, there's like some random

meme interview of something that goes absolutely nuts viral. What do you think it is about this? I think people love like a really thick southern accent. I think they're like. For sure. Entertained by that. I think she's really pretty. I think she's like, you know, she's saying to spit on that thing.

And I think the guys were like, hell yeah, spit on that thing. Well, apparently she rakes in 30K for New York appearances. That's nuts if it's true. Which is crazy. Like, is she charging at the door? She must have a team, a man. She has someone behind her.

She signed by the penthouse. That's her firm. She signed with the penthouse. She signed with somebody. The magazine. And they're getting her some real deals. Yeah, well, Zach Brian brought her on stage. Shaquille O'Neal is giving her advice

on how to deal with fame. I mean, she's living the life. That is pretty crazy. How did she run into Shaq? You ran into Shaq, didn't you? Did you run into Shaq? I've literally never run into him once in my life. Remember when we went to Craig's

Victoria Super Bowl weekend? Oh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Did he say like Shaq sat down at your table when I was in the back talking to? Oh yeah he didn't sit down at the table. Oh you just sat down? Yeah no he just sat down. Of course it was Craig's. How do you forget meeting Shaq? I don't know I guess it just yeah I don't know. I found out I pronounced his name wrong. How are you saying it? I've been saying shock my whole life. Oh, and no one's corrected you? Yeah.

Like Shaquille O'Neal, Shaq. What, you just pronounced his last name wrong. I know Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Shaquille O'Neal. But then shock, and then Sierra was like, why are you making him French?

No, truly, why are you making him French? I watch his speech about Kobe too many times. How's my ass taste? No, no, no, no, the one after Kobe died. Different. Very different. Very different. But she did say she is not making an OnlyFans, which I feel like I'm sure there are so many,

because you know all those like catfisher people who will like make an OnlyFans or make an Instagram account of like you and be like, here's my OnlyFans, like, you know, and it'll be like, here's my only fans, and it'll be like your spare page. I'm sure she has so many people doing that right now. Yeah, and a lot of weird guys.

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan Anderson. Oh, that sweet soul. He's finding it difficult to stay respectful. And I feel like, have we been keeping up with our show, Love After Lockdown? What's it called? We've watched a few episodes. I'm behind on an episode,

but I feel like the online presence has increased, which. Ryan? Yeah, I feel like it always gets so, Ryan says, Ken, don't let her fool you. She called me last Saturday talking about how she missed me and a lot of other things too, but I'm not gonna go there because I wanna be respectful. That's right, you can't But I'm not going to go there because I want to be respectful. It's like you can't, you can't, if you want to be respectful,

you're just going to have to be respectful and not say you're going to be respectful. That happens a lot. You can't say just, yeah, it's like releasing the, like posting screenshots of text messages on your stories or like doing stuff like that. It's like he says, she called me last Saturday talking about how she missed me.

Okay, well, you're already saying what the conversation was. You put it out there. So that's, you're already being disrespectful. Right, like he's saying he has receipts, but he's gonna be respectful and not share. He's only gonna give a little bit of the receipts. He's only gonna say that she missed him,

but none of the other stuff. That's the part about that's just like, she like that validates him. Yeah. She called me, she showed me pics, she loves me. I mean, I feel bad. I mean, he was thrusted into the limelight, didn't ask for this shit, unless you think he's, you think he's in it for the fame.

I'm just saying, I'm not saying that like, oh, he asked for what's coming, that's what came with it, but I'm also kind of like, it's a choice to start a relationship with somebody while in prison for a pretty big deal of a crime, you know? And knowing that there's documentaries, TV shows, everything else made about her, and you're not exactly naive to what comes with

being in a relationship with her. Also, has he released any receipts? Because he's been saying for a minute, I got receipts, but I haven't seen that. I think he's been saying, like, just wait for the show. I think a lot of it unfolds on the show. Got it, okay. He's staying respectful. Well, he's also going on lives for hours.

Maybe he's just being respectful to lifetime. Oh. Yeah. His contract. Yeah, respectful to his contract. He's respecting his contract, but like other than that. I do know that they said though, he's not gonna be on the rest of the show because it's gonna be focusing on her with Ken.

So there's no purpose in them following him. So I'm wondering if he wants to release his own information because he's like, oh, as the story unfolds I'm gonna tell you what actually happened or like narrate from my point of view. Yeah. Well, did y'all see that Kevin Bacon, love and adore Kevin Bacon.

Loves being famous. Loves being famous. He was like, you know what? I wanna be normal for a day. So he goes and gets prosthetics, right? He gets like- Do we have a picture of what he looked like? Remember when Courtney, Kim and Chloe did this? Absolutely.

Like, first of all, they look really scary. I don't know why they don't turn them into just like regular looking people. They like make them like, and like the people that you would avoid. Yeah. I think he went to the Grove though. He did, no.

He went to the Grove. That is definitely, you're gonna get noticed. But my favorite is him saying, nobody recognized me. I had to wait in line to, I don't know, buy a fucking coffee or whatever. Was like, this sucks, I wanna go back to being famous. Jesus. Valid. We love a self-aware person.

Yeah. It's valid. Who doesn't even wanna wait in line? Yeah, no, why would you? He want to wait in line? Yeah, no. Why would you? He's never waited in line once in his life. Kevin just walks up into a Starbucks, walks up to the front and says, sorry, pulls on his glasses, looks into their eyes,

and it's assumed to be like, oh, it's Kevin Bacon. Well, he does have a really recognizable face. So that was his whole point. For sure. You ever heard of like six degrees or seven degrees of Kevin Bacon? Yep. No. Yeah, it's basically, he's been in so many movies,

you probably do with multiple actors, but like it only, you can get to any actor who's been in a movie of Kevin Bacon? Yep. No. Yeah, it's basically, he's been in so many movies, he probably do it with multiple actors, but like it only, you can get to any actor who's been in a movie with Kevin Bacon through like seven different chances or something. And I also guarantee you that Kevin Bacon probably has his own little boutique coffee shop that as soon as he walks in, the barista's like, oh, I've got your order, hi Kevin.

Like, you know what I mean? Where it's like, oh, don't recognize you and I have to wait in line. And you don't know my order, I have to order from you. And I have to pay, no I'm just kidding. What is one privilege you would want as the assumption you're a celebrity that a common thing like waiting in line

or that you would never want to have to do again or like that's worth being a celebrity? For me, it would be free stuff. For me, it would be someone like stores coming to your house and bringing like all the, a bunch of clothes for you to just like shop from your house. So you don't have to like go into the store. Yes.

You know? I'd never drive again. Oh yeah. I'll have a personal chauffeur. Personal chef. Personal chef. Oh, that's a good one too. Whatever, I'd have a personal chef or a driver.

I kind of like driving. I like driving and like, no., I don't have a personal chef or a. I kind of like driving. I'm with a chauffeur. I like driving and like, no. I wanna sit in the back seat. Parking, I wanna be like. Parking. Oh, the parking for sure. I like to drive, but I hate finding parking.

Same. So you want someone who just rides in the back seat with you and it's ready to park. They're like, all right, I got it. And you just drop off. And then they bring it back to the front and y'all switch and yeah. It's kind of like a ballet.

No, not kind of, you literally just wanna have your own personal ballet. My own personal ballet. And then they bring it back to the front and y'all switch and you They have to sit in the car with you you can't like ever be alone in your car and like jam out like they're They drive separate they tail me wherever I go Their car and then they get they walk to me They leave their car in the middle of the street. They park mine and then walk back to theirs Okay I have a good answer They leave their car in the middle of the street, they park mine and then they can walk back to theirs. I have a good answer. AC, like I want people to know I'm coming

so that they turn the AC on the highest they can. So I walk into a courtroom. Okay. Oh, interesting. Someone's thought about being famous in a love. I was like, okay, diva. That is specific. It's hot out here.

Can we acknowledge Justin's hair? Oh yeah. Justin has blonde hair. Justin went blonde. Am I sweeter now? Do I look sweeter? Do blondes have more fun? Sweeter? Yeah, I look sweeter? Do blondes have more fun? Yeah, like with blonde.

Do blondes have more fun? Does he get an extra sweet? I've been obsessed with Camila Cabello and she's blonde right now. Did you like my comment? I saw your comment on my post. I love it, I love it. But basically I was like, crisis,

do I shave my head or dye it a different color? And I don't look good with a shaved head. So I was like, well. Why were those the only two options? You wanted something different. Because I've been a brunette for what, 23 years of my life. I think you went with a good choice.

Thank you. This is the obvious, it would have been foolish if you would have shaved it first, because you could always shave it if you didn't like the blonde. Exactly. Did Joe do it? No.

And it doesn't look bright, right? No. Oh, she hesitated. Yeah, you did hesitate. She's the him. It kind of does give like shorts when shorts went blonde. Yeah, I mean, his color is kind of what I wanted. Like I didn't want blonde platinum.

I wanted like yellow blonde. Yeah. Did you take his picture to your hairdresser? Absolutely not. Did you do it yourself or did you go somewhere? Hairdresser, oh my God. No, cause I had to bleach it twice and then tone it like twice.

Good, good. It's like never bleach your hair by yourself. Never. No. All right, our last household headline is new Illinois law passed requires family influencers to pay children 15% of earnings if they appear in 30% of content. I feel like this is good in theory,

but also kind of like weird and what's the point? Like why, Illinois? Why is Illinois? Chicago, I guess, has like a bunch of- Natalie reminded us that Chicago is in Illinois. I still knew Chicago was Illinois when I had. You lived in Chicago, right? Yeah.

But even Chicago isn't like the Mecca of influencer. I'm not saying there aren't influencer parents in Illinois. I'm sure there's influencer parents everywhere, but it's why did Illinois take up this mantle? And also why 15%? Especially when they have the percentages of like, if you generate more than 30% of revenue

from using your kid's likeness, you have to pay them 15%? That's barely a commission over what your manager would get. Well, and I'm also wondering, is there like contingencies where it said 15% in 30%? So does it go up to 30% if they're in 50% of the content? Or what if they're in 100% of the content? Is it still only 15%?

Well, it's also interesting because it's like what about like friends who are recurring characters in your videos? No, I think it's not about like, you know, for example, we put like, you know We were posting our lesson lesson post in the back of her head We're still like, you know, they're trying to figure out what our comfort level is But like, you know, it's a lot of just like showing our day We talk about being parents. There are parents out there who have like five, six year olds. When you see a kid like being funny or doing a bit online,

how many, like looking, everyone, anyone listening, including us, vain all people, go into your camera roll and look how many selfies you have. You'll make me take 30 selfies before you're like, that's the one I'm gonna post, you know? Like we all have. You know, it's crazy. I don't post, you know? Like we all have. You know, it's crazy.

I don't know if any of y'all ever saw this video, but there was this video that went viral of I think it was the YouTube, like a YouTuber family, and it was a mom and her son, I believe, and they were in the car and they were talking about maybe like their dog died. I don't know, it was something sad. And she's like talking about it.

And she left the footage in, she didn't cut it out. And she's basically telling her son like, cry more, no, cry more. No, you have to like be more sad. And then they're like taking a thumbnail and she's like, okay, no, sadder. Okay, put your head down on me. Like she's directing him to like four clicks

and to like cry and be sad over. Did she accidentally leave it in? She accidentally left it in. That's, see, that's, but that's the shit. That's the shit I'm talking about. You like, think about how many times, how many takes you do, and we obviously put stuff on the internet,

like every once in a while, especially if it's a bit, like we might have to do it a couple times. Imagine like making your kid do 25 fucking takes of shit like that. That shit is happening all the time when you have kids who are toddlers, like being funny, they're not being funny, they're being told to be funny. You know how hard is it to capture it in the moment?

You get lucky if you do that. And all of a sudden you have a kid who's magically coming up with a, they're being filmed so that their parents always catching them being clever or sarcastic. It is kind of, I mean, I'm glad they're doing things like that, but this law doesn't really seem to make much sense. I think it does. I mean, this is the first state in things like that, but like this law doesn't really seem to make much sense.

I think it does. I mean, this is the first state in the country to enact such of a law. And it also says that the adults are required to set aside those funds to be put into a trust that the minor can access when they turn 18, which is essentially the same thing as like a Kugen fund for child actors out here,

where it's like all of their money is supposed to go straight into a fund that they can access. But all of their money. Yeah, but their parents are not supposed to have any access to it. That doesn't prevent parents from doing it though. But why are, yeah, that's one, I don't get the 15%. That's pennies. I mean, I'm sure that there's a way that they have to validate it, but I'm like even the mom

that just got arrested in Utah where the kids, yeah, were like taped up to the bed and all that stuff, where it's like, there has to be some form of regulation to it because it's a difference between capturing a cute moment or a little bit versus exploiting your kids to having a full-time job without. On set, they have studio teachers and they have hours required. Yeah, exactly. That's why they used to have twins.

Well, that's when just crazy directors were taking advantage of kids. These are people's parents. And I think that's why it used to have twins. Well, that's when like, just like crazy directors were like taking advantage of kids. These are people's parents. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's why it gets a little scarier the more where it's like Illinois, Utah, cause that other mom is in Utah. So it's like where there's not really an entertainment or guidelines for the entertainment industry out there.

I'm like, I feel like people get very green-eyed when they see the money. And then they're like, okay, now you're gonna wake up and you're gonna do this. And it's just like, that's not fair for the kids. So I're like, okay, now you're gonna wake up and you're gonna do this and it's just like, that's not fair for the kids. So I'm like, I don't know if that's supposed to give incentive, I don't know how they're gonna regulate it or like proof.

Maybe it's just a good start they're actually doing this, but like I don't get the 15%. I don't either. I don't understand why. I wonder if like we could start a thing of like when you post something on Instagram to then post like your camera roll and like how many takes it took. Ooh, like a challenge?

Yeah, like a- People would obviously lie about that, but yeah, that's a good idea. And like one and done. No, like I just posted- Just never one and done. I just posted a selfie this morning and I took it in the car on the way here

and I took one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine. Not bad. Did you post it on your story or on- I put it on my story. Not bad. That's not bad though. Yeah.

It could be 70. But I also was like in my car. So like wasn't trying to like have a full on photo shoot. It was just trying to like get a little self. But even that like nine, it took nine times. Imagine making kids do that. Fuck, it's crazy. All right, anyways, we love.

Love Ili. Love Ili. But before we do, obviously we got it's Jen's premiere. The, I see episode one. It's, it's, I will say it is tough going from Casa more to episode one of Bachelorette. It's just the, the drama is, it's not comparable. You know, I, it is a little tougher. I don't know.

Before we do, we do have a couple of housekeeping notes. We have an amazing going deeper episode this week for you. I'm not even gonna announce who yet. We'll announce it tomorrow. It drops Wednesday. This week, Reality Recap today, well, obviously you're listening to it. We got Going Deeper tomorrow.

It's just the Going Deeper. We're doing this new thing with Going Deeper so you haven't noticed. We're gonna do Reality Recaps. We're gonna test it out, see how you people like it. Tuesdays and Thursdays every week. And when we have a going deeper, it'll normally drop Wednesdays sandwich in between.

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She was the blonde from Casa Amor. She was hooked up with Kenny. Kenny, she slept with Rob. Anyways, we're gonna bring her out because we wanna know like what happened. It's our Casa Amor insider. Did some more happen with Cordell and Erin? Or is Cordell and Erin constantly keep saying,

you know, it was taken out of context. You only saw a minute 30, you only saw a minute, you only saw two minutes. Which one is it Erin? Well, we'll find out. Did they dry hump? Did they dry hump? They definitely dry humped.

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All right, Love Island, here we go. Justin, you're finally watching. I am, and I started at the best time because I started at the end of Casa Amor and the recoupling. So I was jaw dropped. Oh, that was a good time to wait. Did you go back and start or did you start in the middle?

You started at the end of Casa Amor? Yeah, which made sense though, because they gave me the perfect flashbacks. Then I saw After Sun, which gave me more flashbacks. And then I saw the clips of the hot dog and sauce competition and whatever that was, which was disgusting. You didn't mean to watch that. No, that was enough.

They do that all every season? They do it on UK. Why, why? They do food challenges, and it's the worst episodes for me. Would you do that with each other? No. No. Listen, the hot dog one was fine.

The ketchup? No. For those of you who don't know what we're talking about, one of the challenges is they had to fill a bowl of food, anything from hot dogs to ketchup to pulled pork. It was 4th of July theme. 4th of July, great. And they had to only use their mouth,

so they had to transfer ketchup from mouth to mouth. Disgusting. Six people down and put it into a bowl. I watched one where they did cocktails, and so it's like you had to fill the glass on the other end, and so it's like what, six people just, like, freaking burning liquid with spit and everything. Oh, so much spit.

Why do these people care about winning the challenges so much? I don't know. They don't win anything. It's care about winning the challenges so much? I don't know. They don't win anything. It's not even like they get a date. I don't know. They didn't win that video from this, no. No.

Yeah, yeah, they don't win anything. Love Island, we were talking about earlier, it's just like the entire nation should be tuning in together every night. Yeah. That's how I feel about Love Island. I agree. It is, it's an event.

It's like the presidential debate. Oh my God. We didn't even talk about that last week. That was fucking nuts. No, no, but it's just like, that's how I feel relevant Love Island USA is. It's my Olympics. You are cool.

Oh, there you go. It's the Olympics. There it is. There's a different thing happening every day. Yes, it's the Olympics. It's so good. You know what's so good about Love Island? You know it's really good television?

Because usually normally what makes great reality TV television is the stakes. Like that's why The Bachelor has been so popular for so long, because despite its format, every fucking season being exactly the same, every fucking season, you're like, two people are gonna probably get engaged in this, and that's fucking crazy.

And then Love Island, and then Love is Blind, they're like, we people are gonna probably get engaged in any of this, and that's fucking crazy. And then Love Island, and then Love is Blind, they're like, we're gonna one up that, we're just gonna have people get fucking married, and that just makes it fucking crazy because the stakes are so fucking high. But what's crazy about Love Island, there's kinda no stakes. No, no, they win money at the end.

Like a hundred thousand, right? In the UK, it's different. I think they split a hundred thousand. I'm not trying, okay, that's a decent amount of money, but they don't really talk about it. That's not why these people are there. In the grand scheme of things, if any, like whoever finishes or like, I mean, it is,

like the grand scheme of things, whoever goes long enough to be a main character is gonna be able to make more than that through social media and appearances and haktua and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you know what I'm saying? Like that's not why people are watching. You kind of forget, they don't even bring it up.

They don't like remind the audience. Like there's no, that's what I'm saying. But yet despite all that, you're just like every fucking episode. I'm so invested in these characters. I also just love, I generally, it's the first time I'm watching a show where I just really, I like everybody.

Like, you know, yeah, we get mad at some people, but that's generally like a good group of people. I really quite like them. I mean, I'm rooting for them. I like them. I don't know. It just warms my heart. I just think of them all the time.

I fucking love this show. Are you team Serena or Cadell? Serena. Serena. Yeah, okay. That's whatell? Serena. Serena. Serena. Yeah, okay. Definitely. That's what I thought. I see both sides. I do.

I do. Why? Because I think Cordell should have had the allowance to test his relationship or to like see what else is out there. He's been following around the same girl the entire time. That's kind of been like touch and go. I have a question though. What does it mean to need a test for your relationship?

Well, cause that's what the bombshells are. The bombshells are supposed to be tests for the relationships, how strong it is. Somebody walks in and it's like, oh, will their head be turned? Yes or no? It's like the whole dynamic of it. So I'm like, Kasa Amor is the elevated,

your partner is not within sight for four days. Will you stay loyal? Are you gonna test the waters and see what else is out there? Which is a very common thing in real relationships. They go on boys trip or girls trips or whatever the fucking things happen. So it's like, if it's a new relationship and also these people have only been together for what, a couple of weeks? So a couple of days, a couple of days.

Some a couple of days. So I'm like the fact that we get mad at some people being like, you're not loyal to this person, like they were dating for two days. I don't think that's the argument. I think the argument of team Serena team Cordell. She was like she went on a date Mm-hmm. She's like you can go to Casa Amor be open explore whatever we said We're open that was that was all kosher between them, too, right? I think it was because how he did it It was the disrespectfulness. It was her on top of him grinding on the bed, driving, being like, I think it was all of that stuff that is like the divide.

And that's why I said I can see both sides, where I'm like, I totally agree with her as well, but however, I'm like, it's not typical you get sent a video being like, here's a snippet of what could have happened, you know what I mean? So she reacted accordingly, it's fair. It was pretty, like how do you, how do you say that that was anything but what it was?

That's why the guys were just like acting as like, they kept saying, it was just like, well, that was just taking out of context. Right. And like we- I love that they didn't even see the video too. And they were like, it's taken out of context. It's, oh, and then it was like, what did you see?

And they wouldn't answer. And they was like, we weren't dry humping. It's like- No, you weren't. You were. Like we saw the video. I thought they were having sex. I thought they were having sex. I do.

That's what I was gonna say. I was like, interesting that you went to dry humping because in my mind, they were having full blown sex. 1000%. That's why I was like, is that what we're questioning here when they're like, no, we weren't dry humping. And I was like, oh, cause you were really humping. Yeah.

Yeah. No, like to me, it's just like, I found it really fascinating because for a while, like it seemed like the guys who clearly had a different expectation of what Casa Amora was versus the girls, you know, the whole like, it's about testing, man. Like you have to test the relationship

to your question layout. Like I don't, is that, again, I'm a Love Island rookie. So is that normal like vocab on Love Island? And is it like, but it seems still like bullshit. Like. I agree. I think it's bullshit because it's like, I mean, I guess in real relationships,

yeah, they go to a bar. It's like, how would they be on the outside? But in my mind, I'm just like, have I ever like needed a test to make sure. But Nellie makes a great point, right? Like Cordell or Erin, you know, they could have gone, first of all, they didn't have to go to Cosmo more. They had the option not to go.

And that's not normal. No, that's not normal, by the way. Usually, like, they just go. Okay, but they did have the option. Clearly, they were never not going to go, fine, all right. But like, the women had the right to be upset about that. Right? Yeah. Then they go, fine, test the relationship.

Whatever, if you need a test, test. If you want to get to know people, get to know people. These guys say the word test is if like, I need to know how my dick tingles around this person. That's all it is. They're just like, I need to test it. So like, I need to know how I feel. I need to see who's a better kisser.

Yeah, it's all about, it's all physical. It's like these guys like, could have gotten to know these women. Yep. They don't even get to know any of them. They just go sit on a fucking futon and stare into each other's eyes

and talk about how hard it is not to make out. That's all they fucking did. And then they make out. And there it is like, I had to test my relationship. Look, that's not testing shit. No, you're right. I don't understand that. Like, but there are all these, what No, you're right. I don't understand that.

But there are all these, what's so fascinating is that although I am team Serena, like Cordell truly looked confused. You know what I'm saying? Like he really was like, I really admit I didn't. But he's still bringing both of them breakfast. That's what I don't understand, like these guys kinda act like, maybe it's the youth,

maybe it's like that, you know, Cordell's only like 22. He's 22, yeah. Yeah, so is it a young person thing? I'm also watching it thinking, I don't know, man, this is like, in a world where situationships is the most like common relationship status these days in dating culture, you know, any 21, 22, 23 year old, like a commitment nowadays is like, holy fucking shit.

You know, like it's so, and then you have Cordell. Like I empathize with all the guys were like, well, finally he had a girl who like gave him attention and that's valid to a certain degree. Even Remy Bader DM me, she's like, well, yeah, but like, you know, Serena strung him along the whole time. And it's just like, she waited three days to be like, I don't know if I wanna hump your brains right away.

And this is why. I feel like she didn't string him along. That's no. She waited. She had boundaries. She said, I'm a slow burn. We saw her go on another date. Up from expectation.

She also didn't kiss him. So she stood on that, I am a slow burn. Then she is like, okay, maybe like it's not there, maybe we just stay friends, that's being open. She's being open, she's talking to other people. He's like, all right, cool, we'll be open. He's talking to other people. And then she's like, you know what, no,

like I wanna be with you, I don't wanna be friends. Like let's, and then they had that talk and they had that talk about like, I like you, I like, let's be vulnerable, let's do this. And then they go to Casa Amor. I'm like, in what world did she string him along? Yeah, I don't know. You know what?

She didn't like tickle his balls day one. She did it differently than the other people. Yeah, no, well, Dayo like fresh off, she was like all over. Not to mention, the whole point of the bombshells in Casa Amor is to be like seductive and temptress. They're trying to get on. They don't have a lot of time.

Their whole motivation is to basically throw themselves at these people. So how do you trust their intentions? Yeah. Right. No. And you know what's crazy to me, going back to what you said earlier about like the world of situationships and all that,

is that like you have Kayla and Erin telling each other that they're falling in love before they've become boyfriend and girlfriend, and then they're still staying open, it's just backwards. It doesn't make sense, but Erin is talking about like testing a relationship as if it's his like, he owes it to himself, you know? Here's Rob being like, yeah man, you really have to do this.

It's like the idea of a bachelor party where it's like, this is my last chance. This is my last time before you get married. I'm never gonna get to sleep with another girl again. So let's go to the strip club and like hook up with a stripper because you might not ever get to do this again. Have you been doing this our whole relationship? I'm only gonna have sex with one girl

for the rest of my life, I have to get this in. What about the past five years? Yeah. I love Serena. Like I think she's one of them. I think, you know, she's just such a unique reality TV character, cause she's not the norm. Because I think it's very hard to go into that atmosphere

where things move fast. You're incentivized to be physical and things like that. And to like state your boundaries out of fear that you might get passed by in a world where things happen so rapidly. I think it's tough. She stands her ground. She stands her ground.

And it's clear how the other women feel about her ability to demonstrate that self-respect. It is difficult. Honestly, standards gives you scars. It really does. No matter what, any standard you ever have, eventually people will disappoint you. Standards? Like, standards require expectations, and as soon as you have expectations of people,

often people don't meet those expectations. And they definitely, like she talks so much about how hard it is to have these standards. And she really does. A lot of people talk about having standards, and they just like blow bulldoze through them all the time. But I think she's like so fantastic about how she like communicates.

And I was so shocked by enough, a bunch of people in the comments, in my DMs, talking about how, oh, I was like, Team Serena, and a lot of people were just like, not after tonight. I don't know why, because she got mad at all the guys? People were- Yeah, also, she's valid. The guys were full on fucking lying to her.

Yeah. Yeah, I actually, I think that we need an insider's opinion here because the guys have been so, like, they seem to have some sort of pact with each other where they were like, we are gonna come back and say the bare minimum of what happened over there. We are not gonna open our mouths.

We're gonna play both sides. We love the OGs, but we also have been rooting for the Casa girls. And I just, I'm curious to know what actually happened at Casa. All right, let's bring her on. Insider from Casa Amor. Welcome to the show, how you doing?

I'm good, how are you? We're great. So we were so happy to be talking with you. Obviously you were an insider at Casa Amor. And there's, after last night's episode, there's a lot of back and forth between Aaron and Rob, Cordell and Miguel, all the boys. And Kendall.

And they're all kind of coming back being like, we're not gonna lie, we're gonna tell you the truth. There's this video floating out there, but we're getting like, it feels like 80, 90% of the truth, you know, and things like that. And we know that like, how long were you guys all at Casa Amor, four days, three days? They always say like three or four days.

Like which one is it? So it was three nights, but four days. Okay. But honestly, when you're in there, it feels like a week. Five weeks. Sure. Honestly, it felt like five weeks. I was like, what day is it?

Like, what's going on? That makes sense. So I guess my big question for you is, like, what didn't we get to see? We obviously didn't see four days and three nights worth of material. We know that's how reality TV works. Well, we got to see a lot of Cordell and Dea.

Like, I thought they were having sex at one point. But I guess my big question to you is, if you got to go back in the villa, what side would you be on? Are you more on, there's a lot you didn't get to see, and boy, because if I am, if I am Kailer, and I'm watching this back after hearing Erin's truth, I would not, that's not, he downplayed it.

He absolutely downplayed. Yeah, that was downplayed. And honestly, like I love Danielle. She was one of my closest girlfriends in there. But the fact that she fully lied to her, I was like, no, yeah, no, because they were cuddling the first night. They were 100 percent. And listen, I get it where she was also coming from.

Like that's Aaron's place to tell her, not really hers. But I also give like props to Diah, because she literally like told Serena like everything that happened. She was like, that's not true because they were doing the exact same thing, saying the exact same stuff to me, because the boys were literally like, yeah, like he's never been like this before. We're so happy for him. Like kudos to you.

But then they're also like saying the same thing about Serena when the girls like from the villa were not even really brought up about, if that makes sense. Like Janaye was not brought up. Serena really wasn't. The only one that really brought up like anyone was probably Kendall about Nicole. Wow. Really?

So it was the first night that Daniela woke up and was like, he was kissing me about Nicole. Really? So it was the first night that Daniella woke up and was like, he was kissing me all over. Like first night he's trying to get in my pants and like she left all that out. They left. Yeah, she fully left that out. And I was like, no. Yeah, cause when she was telling Kendall that,

I was like, did they like have oral sex or like? No, they didn't have sex. But like, I remember when we were all getting ready, she was like, yeah, like he started putting his like hand towards my pants. And then he was like, oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were a killer. Like, no, you didn't. I love you. But no, you didn't. What? Oh, I didn't know that.

But why would he know? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Sorry. No, please. This is what I. take this is what we brought you on. Sorry, insider scoop. You tell us what happened in there. We needed to know the truth. Honestly, like I went in there, like I was like, I'm going to stir the pot. Like, let's go. Like, honestly, Aaron was like my pick at first, but then I'm sitting back.

I'm sipping my water bottle, like it's some tea and I'm like watching everything go down. I'm like, okay, cool. This is this is something else. The boys were like as if they were on like a Vegas trip 110%. Yeah, it gave like it was insane. I was like these boys like they don't give a fuck. They were just going like balls to the walls guns blazing. But honestly,

as they should, it's Casa Amor. You're supposed to experience like, like everything else that's like not happening like in the villa because you need to see like if your connections are actually bigger than they like seem. No, I don't know. I get that it's a show. And I get that that's the point of Casa Amor. I think we were just saying before you popped on, it's just like that you don't know. I get that it's a show, right? And I didn't get that that's the point of Casa Amor. I think we were just saying before you popped on, it's just like, you don't get to know someone by basically dry humping them and talking about how it's hard to kiss them.

You get to know them by having conversation. And all these people do is like, the only conversation they're having is just like, ah, I don't really wanna kiss you right now, but I should. I wanna fuck you. You're dangerous. You're trouble. I wanna kiss you. It's just like, what did you learn about each other? I learned that they want to kiss you right now, but I should. You're dangerous. You're trouble. I'm gonna kiss you. It's just like, what did you learn about each other?

I learned that they wanted to kiss me, but it was like really hard for them not to. Who do you think was like the most surprising out of the men? Like obviously y'all watch before you come in, right? Yeah. Well, what do you mean by like surprising? Like who like really?

Who really went for it that you were like, they probably will be like a little bit more reserved cause their connection. And then they're like, hopefully, but guess not. I think like Aaron and Kayla 100 percent like, I keep saying like 110 percent. I don't know what's going on with me. I learned some verbiage while I was in there. I'm like on repeat. Like it's like literally a never ending like song at this point. But I think Aaron and Taylor were definitely the couple that I thought were the strongest. I didn't think he was going to go that hard. But like the connection he had with Daniela was

very new to him, I guess. And like they were, they had a lot of similarities. They wanted to, the whole like fostering thing. They really connected on that level. And they like seemed like they were in like in love. Like from Aaron and Danielle. Yeah, Aaron and Danielle. We thought they were like in love because they were like talking nonstop and they weren't just kissing. Like yeah, they had a lot of like frisky business going on, but like they were actually having like genuine like conversations. I think they were like talking for like three hours one day and then like she comes back out of the woodworks.

I go where the fuck have you been? I'm like, I missed you, but where were you? She's like, oh, I was talking to Aaron the entire time. I was like, oh shit. So we do have connections. Could you imagine if Aaron was actually been like, well, there was a time where we talked for three hours nonstop and the first night we cuddled

and basically rolled around in bed all night and I tried to like, I put my hand, he's like, I did bring you up. Like right when I tried to almost- Finger her. Finger her. I brought you up. So he like- And I thought it was you. He leaves that part out.

He's like, I brought your name up every fucking time I tried to make out with her. It was so bad. No, it's like- And then when I broke up with her, I almost kissed her walking away. What was that? Yeah, but that was crazy. So like right after like we heard like the whole like scream from the villa. And now like, let me tell you like, they're far apart. So like, the way she was

screaming was really loud. Like the fact that I heard at the fire pit when we were like, mid conversing about like, something we want to do, like when we're before like we pass away one day, like we were having like deep conversations and I heard that I go, why are they screaming? And then all of a sudden Rob was like, they got the video, Erin. And then next thing you know, Erin and Rob go into their little corner to chit chat,

have a real moment. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, this is, I wanna make sure we understand. This is great, thank you. She said oh too much. No, no, no, again. Sorry. No such thing, we so appreciate you being here with us.

But for the people who don't realize what you're talking about. So at one point you all and Casa Amor heard Kailer scream out, fuck Erin. Yeah, I think it was like fuck Casa and then fuck you Erin. Okay, they heard that. And so you're telling me they knew,

or at least Rob knew that it had to do with the video. It wasn't like, cause I think some people were speculating that maybe Erin thought she's saying fuck Casa, fuck, fuck Erin, because like maybe she was hooking up with another guy or something and he was blaming her. They knew about the video?

I think because Rob has gone down this rodeo before, since he was in Casa. He put the two and two together and he was like, they got a video. And then everyone was like, well, why didn't we get a video? And then he was like, he's really hot. Because they're not doing shit over there as a film.

They're not doing shit outside. Like, Kayla was crying over how much she misses Erin. Like honestly, talking to some of the boys that got booted off after, they were like, I'm going to hear, I miss Erin in my nightmares. I go, do you want a shot? Like we're at the airport now. Like I'll give you one if you need one.

Like they were like, that girl was nonstop about Erin. And I do feel really bad for her because like, if you're that like into a guy and then you get a video of him like going balls to the wall with some girl that like you've never seen before. I mean that would hurt me too. But then she went right back to him. I was like really pop. So question when, I'm curious,

when Rob told the guys and more specifically Erin, oh they got a video, is that when Erin's behavior changed? At what point did you notice Erin being like, oh I miss Kayla? And you know, on the show, it presents as, you know, hey, I had to make out with her. I had to do it, it was the only way I was gonna realize it, you're my girl, but you think maybe it had to do

with the video, that maybe Erin realized that he was in some shit, and that's probably why he changed his behavior? That's like, in my opinion, that's what I think happened because they were literally together all three days. And then like the last night he was still like next to her. They were talking like they were being like all like a lot of da like in love land.

And then right when like everything like went down and then Rob was like, I think like they got the video. That's when he was like, Oh no, like I'm feeling guilty. And then you could tell like on his face he was feeling guilty because right, like, because he got caught, you know what I mean? Like once you get caught, like you'd be like shit and you're like, oh my God, like what did I do?

But then he then pulled her aside and this is Danielle. So he pulled Danielle aside and basically was like, listen, I did like have a connection with you, but I feel like it's on a friend level. And then she agreed and he was like, I really think you should go pursue Rob. But I will say this though, right when Daniella started connecting with Aaron, she didn't really like talk to any other guy because she got the intention or like she like thought like every guy was like saying like, oh, it's Aaron's girl, like hands off now.

So she was thinking that too in the beginning because she was like, oh, like now that like I'm like talking and connecting with Erin, none of the guys wanna talk to me. So all the guys were fully supporting, borderline encouraging Erin to pursue this relationship. That's fascinating. If you got to stay and Kayla brought you aside, like she brought all the other women,

what specifically would you want Kayla to know? For me, I think I would just be like, there's always three sides to the story. His side hurts her side and then the truth. And girly pop, I would take a heavy, heavy pour of that wine at movie night, because you're going to need it. Yes. I would 110% heavy, heavy pour of that wine at movie night, because you're gonna need it. Yes.

I would want 110, like, see, I said it again, 110%. I can't stop saying it, it's like insane. But I would honestly say like, yeah, you'll need a heavy pour, because there's three sides, his, hers, and the truth, and movie night's gonna break your heart. Even Daniela going to Kendall and being like, yeah, you know, Kendall asking about, you know,

has he brought up his situation back at the villa? And she's like, yeah, he keeps saying he wants to respect Kayla, but his actions say different. Well, then why didn't you tell Kayla that? From watching it like last night, I could see like those girls were going like guns blazing at like the boys and the Casa girls. It was giving off like they were pissed, pissed

because like that video was a lot. So I think the Casa girls were a little bit scared to like really confront them about it because like they literally were just put in there. It was all of a sudden, like everyone's asking me everything. And I think like they were a little overwhelmed because when we were in Casa, it was like we were in the clouds. Like it was love, it was happiness, positive energy. And then you go to the villa and it's like, you're at the gates of hell. Like get ready, like you're fucked.

So I think like it was just like a awakening moment for them. Do you think Cordell disrespected Serena? I like Serena. I mean, I love her from watching the show. She's been great. But because of how like wishy washy she was, and I get like everyone's like, oh, she's a slow burner. You're in this show.

Like you can't be that much of a slow burner. So I think like when he met Deja, they were just like talking and like connecting. I do think like from watching the episodes, it was a lot of drive humping, but I think it was more of she was trying to be like, I will give you the world, I will treat you right. I'm just giving you a little piece of it right now

because once you get me and you have me as yours and I am your girl, you'll have the world. I don't fault her at all. That's literally your all job is to make is to get, to make a connection. You only had three or four days. You have to come in hot. Like I don't follow y'all women at all. Like, yeah, she was begging all of us to like talk to him too.

She was like, if you think you have a connection with him, go talk to him. I was like, say, I love you. But like, I'm like your child. Like it's like, for now was dad day. It was mom and I was the child. Like I was like the third wheel of like their relationship. I was dad day I was mom and I was the child like I was like the third feel of like their relationship I was loving it like during the raunchy races like when I had to like kiss Cordell she was egging it on cheering it on. She's like, all right now go to the bedroom

Go to the bedroom and he fucking booked it Like literally I said like I was the fucking football and he was trying to make his brother proud like So like kudos to him for that and like kudos to her because everyone's just so supportive but like They did have a lot of conversations together, and I think they did have a good connection But it definitely was like from like the outsiders point of view it was definitely like pound town from like those videos I didn't even see them dry humps so like the fact that everyone saw that I'm watching I go wait What where was this? None of us saw that.

You watched it back though, didn't you? And then, yeah. Yeah. And I was shocked, I was like, oh shit. I know you didn't really know, cause you didn't really get to know Serena in person, right? Cause you were basically at Casa Amor the whole time and you came in to say your goodbyes. And then Kayla as well,

let's assume these are both your girls in real life and you know what you know. and then Kayla as well. Let's assume these are both your girls in real life and you know what you know. Would you tell them to stay together or work it out or would you tell them that, I love how Kayla kept saying, if you move this way, which I love how she said that. I'm gonna start using that, it was great.

But you would recommend that they don't work on it. I don't know, I feel bad, but they went into Casa and it was like, I don't know. I just, I feel bad, but like they went into Casa and it was like Serena who Taylor who. So it's like, I don't know if that, if those were my girlfriends, I'd be like, they went in there, they did what they did. And because they got caught, that's why they're acting this way. And they're trying to be so sympathetic with you. I think I'm like, don't do it because they're just like feeling like shit because they made you feel sad.

And it's like, who knows? Like when you guys get in the outside world, like what are the odds they're gonna do it again? Probably again. Well it's also like stand on business too. Like you're gonna come in and say that you did this. Don't be like, oh, but I didn't know. Like no, say why you did it.

Cordell walking in with his head to the ground. So yeah, I mean, I love Cordell so much, but like, I didn't, I'm not, I love him. Like I love all the cast, I really do. Everyone's endearing, but, and I don't mean this to say be a dick, but Cordell gives kind of boy energy and he's young and he's like, he gives this kind of energy where I get it, like, listen, every man does wanna

get validated, you know, I get that Cordell, you know, likes the idea that, you know, Deoo is just making him feel appreciated and loved, and everyone appreciates that, but that's still kind of giving Boy, where Serena needs, she's very clear with her expectations, she wants the guy who knows what he wants and doesn't need that instant validation because that's what Serena wants and needs.

And for Cordell to use that as an excuse, it's like it's fine, but clearly you are not what Serena wants and needs. And for Cardell to use that as an excuse, it's like it's fine, but clearly you are not what Serena needs. Serena needs that guy who- Yeah, that's why I just end it at that point. Because if that's not who he is, then I don't think she should still pursue that. Because if it's not her expectations,

why are you still going for it then? Yeah, specifically Erin and Cardell. Sweet, fun, charming, but they just give very much like they don't understand dating or relationships or women bringing both these women breakfast. In what world did you think that Serena was going to be like, you know what? Thanks. That was fucking crazy.

I'm going to be honest. When I was watching that last night, I'm like sitting there with my aunt and I go oh shit. Oh shit. Like this is not good I already know something I go I know something fucks about to happen and that's three it takes it goes Nope, it puts it on him. I'm like I like valid like what? That's okay, yeah like why do you like the cops are definitely like shit themselves when they watch that because like they were in there to day I was in there and she's like I would fucking so here is like eating her breakfast like Here's a question for you like Miguel did it Mike Miguel's just like I actually love Miguel cuz he's so transparent

That he's such a soul fucking funny. Yeah, it's just like this is who I am I'm a fuckboy player or whatever you want to call it. There are no illusions about who Miguel is. I fucking love it. But he's so funny. But like when he brought in his lady, Sierra, and he was like, hey, man, like whatever. But like these guys all acted like they didn't think that bringing in new women

and then they show up and like, oh, no, no, no. I'm like, I'm still down to get to know you. I'm like, what? Even Kenny though, I appreciate Miguel being like, listen, like we connected for two days. Like I still want to get to know you. And then like, even when he pulled Leah aside, he did say that and he's like, listen, I have two connections.

I want to see which one like gets, I feel more connected with. We had two days, I had four days with her I just want to like vibe out like I'm not trying to disrespect you, but I'm not gonna cut you off I really like fuck with Miguel for saying that because like he is like og for that. No, I love his honesty transparency I love that. He walked in with his head just held high like this is what I'm doing That's yeah, but I'm more curious about when I don't know where you were where you were when the men were deciding what to do, but did anyone, did you ladies, or did you think

when you thought, oh, I'm gonna bring these ladies in? I thought I was going in. Oh, you thought you were going in? Who did you think was Kenny? No, yeah, Kenny. Well, made you think that. Kenny was basically in a love square. So it was himself, a girl in the villa, which was Janae, and then Catherine, and then myself.

So he was like, like the first day we got there, he tracked me out up and down. Then we started talking. We really connected because he's from the Bronx. I moved to the city. We were like connecting off of like what we like to do in the Bronx. I moved to the city. We were like connecting off of like what we like to do in the city, like when we're there. And then I thought it was going really, really well. Later that night, I pulled him for a chat and I was like, Hey, like since like we did really like hit it off, like I was just wondering like, what's the

bed situation tonight? Like, do you want to share? And then he goes, well, Katherine B, two, it two seconds ago. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, wait a minute, what the fuck? I'm like, Katherine, cause like Katherine was like, I'm into Kendall. So then I was like, okay, so now I'm in a love triangle. As the time went on, I started realizing every question he initially asked me the first day, he started asking her the next day. And then when I said, Where's your head at? Like, who were you coupled up with? At the villa the first day, he said, Oh, I coupled up with today. But it was only three days. So there's nothing really there. But now you're going to be crying about her after the recoupling because she's like, what the fuck is this? And then he's like, I really like how like,

you're about your family. Like I'm so appreciative that you opened up about like your mom passing away and like how close you are with like your cousins, your aunt, your grandma and all of this. So as we're at like, we had our own little like mini recoupling. So as we're standing there, he's like little like mini recoupling so as we're standing there

He's like I really like this girl because she like pushes me to like do what I want like to better myself in life She's all about family I'm like in my mind. I'm like shitting my pants. I'm like wow like he actually like listen to me Then all of a sudden it was Katherine. I'm like wait what and then looking at all the videos and stuff She was just trying so hard to get in there. And I'm sorry, I'm not a persuasive essay. I'm not gonna say pick me, choose me, love me. Either you like me or you don't. Period.

Otherwise, like, go away. So like, when I all back go down yesterday, and like how like, she was like kissing him and begging him. I was like, okay, so she just really like, was just trying to be like desperate and like go for him. And he just like thought with his dick, not his head. That was the most awkward kiss I've ever seen in my entire life. When I watched it, I was like,

I was like shitting myself. I was like, this is so awkward. I go, I didn't even beg him to kiss me and he fucking went for it. Like that's actually pathetic. Yeah, that was really bad. He sucked my toes, okay? Like she was begging for a kiss while he was sucking my toes.

Can he suck your toes? Like, okay. Yeah, can he suck my toes? okay? Like she was begging for a kiss while he was sucking my toes. Can he suck your toes? Do we see that? Yeah, can he suck my toes? Do people like that? I just can't wait for movie night. Like you guys are gonna love it. I was throwing around like a rag doll for Raunchy Races and I can't wait for you guys to see it.

I got battle scars. I'm really like, I feel like you're such a delight to talk to and you're funny and charming. Why do we get to see this version of you on Love Island? You know what's crazy? Like as I'm leaving, I started crying because I didn't want to leave them. All the boys were like, I'm going to be honest, that girl's funny as fuck. She was the best, everything. They were like, I wish we made a book about all the verbiage and her little abbreviations that she had because that girl just was a rocket. But I think it was honestly because like,

it was like so like different for me because I wasn't really used to it. And so it was like, I didn't want to be like too much to like the people, but like the guys loved me. I think it was more of like friendship with them, if that makes sense. But Kenny really fucked me over there.

That was bullshit. That is fair. Yeah, you did. He is such a player. You spent the night with Rob, and the night before he was making out with. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny, yeah.

He's making moves. Yeah, what was your impression of Rob? I think with him, he was just so drained at the fact that like every single person that he was coupled up with just kept getting fucking sent home. Like the Andrea thing, I'm sorry, I was team Andrea for her.

Like that was fucked up with just kept getting fucking sent home. Like the Andrea thing, I'm sorry, I was team Andrea for her. Like that was fucked up in my opinion. And then he like gets coupled up with, what's her name, Cassie? Cass, yeah. Yeah, and then she goes home. And he was like, listen, I got the Rob curse.

Like either you're gonna love it or you're gonna hate it. And I was like, I mean, if you bring me with you and I get fooded off, I'll go see my cat faster. So that's okay with me. From what you've seen so far since Andrea left, if you're Andrea, would you consider taking Rob back? Honestly, yeah, I would. Because how he was like in casa,

he really wasn't a player. He was very like laid back. Yeah, he was talking to Destiny. Yeah, they did like share a bed and they did make out that night. But the rest of the time, he really wasn't doing anything crazy. Like, honestly, I think he was the only one that was not sucking face every single time he could get like a chance to. He was only doing stuff during the challenges. He was literally the only single one and he was the only one acting like he was in a relationship. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say acting like in a

relationship, but he was just like, I don't give a fuck. He's like, let the boys be boys. And he literally sat back and like ate popcorn with it. Were you shocked by the Daniela, like, switch up with Rob? Did that feel forced? Did that feel like it was for the drama? Yeah, I felt it was definitely forced a little bit because like she really was into Aaron,

but she also was really stressed out about the whole Taylor situation like really stressed like she was like saying like I don't know what to do like I don't like this feeling right now and I was like what is the feeling like if you're being caught or you liking someone who has strong connection to someone else too and she's like I don't know I just don't like this feeling and like I was like listen like you gotta stop like second guessing I'm like you gotta I just don't like this feeling. And like, I was like, listen, like, you got to stop like second guessing. I'm like, you got to not think about the other girl in the villa. Like you got to think about yourself.

Like you want to be happy or do you want to be miserable? So she was like very wishy washy. But then like when the whole like Rob thing happened, I'm trying to ask her questions. I'm like, wait, what's going on? Like now we're with Rob. Like, how are you feeling with that? She really wasn't giving me like answers. And I was like, I'm trying to pull it out of her. I'm like, can you just tell me, what's going on? Like now we're with Rob, like how are you feeling with that? She really wasn't giving me like answers.

And I was like, I'm trying to pull it out of her. I'm like, can you just tell me like what's going on? Like, are you into him or not? Because I just shared a bed with him last night. So. She couldn't answer it. Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn. Do you think Daniella will like try anything

with Erin back at the villa? Or do you think it's like done? I mean, I did make bets with some people that my girly pop is definitely gonna end up back with Aaron. And honestly, I've even told multiple people, like I am kind of like shipping like team Aaron and Daniela. Really? Okay. Interesting. But like, if it doesn't happen, like, Kayla fans don't kill me, please. I just, I don't know, I kinda liked it. They were speaking Spanish, they were going,

yeah, it's Spanish. Erin is not being totally honest with Kailer, isn't that? Yeah, no. And like, she wants to know the truth. Like she's giving him every opportunity, she wants to forgive this guy. She still likes him, and it is. It's Kasa Amor, it's Love Island, we get it.

Aaron gives boy energy, but now that he's lying about it, he is, I don't know, we'll get to see from Kayla how many chances she's gonna give this guy. Well, she folded so fast. I'm sitting here and I'm like, you just stood your ground so well. You're like, I'm staying single, I'm really disappointed in what you said, and now all of a sudden, you're like, you just stood your ground so well. You're like, I'm staying single. I'm really disappointed in what you said.

And now all of a sudden you're like, okay, I'm gonna like, sit and solitize with you, but I don't want any funny business. And then you're gonna like give him a chance again. I'm like, come on. It was very nice. Have you ever been cheated on and like you went back to him?

I'm confused. Yeah, I just. Like I was like, what? I understand. I get why. I don't fault her at all for that just because she can get mad. And then it's just like, she's not sure what,

like what's so evident in this universe is that like there's no rules. There's these suggestions. All of a sudden we're in the middle of the season. It's a lot of like, did you make out with them outside of a game? Because like a game doesn't necessarily matter. So like I get where you're coming from, Cindy,

when it comes to Kailer, but like I empathize with why it's very easy for her to wanna forgive this guy. And he did. He comes back single, right? So even Serena, as much as she was mad at Cordell and fuck this guy, him coming back with that was such a fuck you. You know, it like changes the game. So he comes back single,

which like gives her the whole idea like, well, finally he still chose me. He did dump her. I think obviously if she knew this information, it might change the game. Yeah, but then also Rob brings her back, like, come on. Which is so. Now let's think about that.

And it's so. And she was like, was clapping it up for Rob, she was like, yeah, and they're like, no, it's Daniella. I'm just saying, I'm not faulting her for wanting to forget him. When I was standing there, I was shitting my pants. I was like, damn. It's so fucked that I think Aaron, like, pushed Daniella and Rob because he knew

that Rob was gonna bring someone back. And then to like do that to Kahler. You know, it's like Rob did have, he was, had a connection with you. He had a connection with Destiny. And it's like for him to, it felt like slimy in a way. Erin pitched Rob. It was like, bro.

It's like, why do you wanna bring, why do you want like your girl, like Kahler to like have to, that was like really weird for me. No, and I agree with that. That's why when that whole thing went down and like when I saw Rob and Danielle like talking like in the corner while we're still at the fire pit, I'm like literally looking at them from like a little distance. And I'm like, I'm like, all right, who pushed who? I'm like, let me know.

And then like you realize that after it's like, oh no, like Aaron and him had a chat right after the whole like screaming let me know. And then you realize after it's like, oh no, Aaron and him had a chat right after the whole screaming little scenario happened. Even to your point, it's like, let, yes, Aaron is coming back for you, Kayla, but also make him work for it a little bit. You didn't have to sleep outside with him. You could sleep in the bed and be like, no,

you're in soul ties and you can freaking kiss the ground I walk on all day tomorrow. I think she just missed him so much. Like I do think she just was like, it's down bad for the four days. I think she might, I think she's gonna leave right when movie night happens. If they put what happened, like during movie night,

I think she's gonna leave. I really do. So good. I'm so excited. Or she's just gonna like cut them off for good and then go on to someone else. I really, I hope she does. If people who go on Love Island are fans of Love Island,

they know the beats, right? They know a video gets sent. They know there's movie night. Like why fucking do it? Yeah. When he was saying like, he's like, I know like I really like love her and I want her to be my girlfriend.

I don't know why I did it. I'm like, because you're fucking horny. Like they put all, I'm sorry, in my opinion, I think they put all the baddest girls right into Costa and they were like, ooh, hot bitches, you're fucked. And then like put these guys in and the girls were like, they're like children. Yeah, yeah, they definitely, it wasn't an evening play.

No, the guys, I, the guys talk like boys and they talk like guys who've never been around women. I get it's like the whole two, like Cordell looks genuinely confused. Like I- So did Kenny. Yeah, Kenny. Kenny was crying.

Kenny looked genuinely confused. Kenny was a broken record. He was a fucking broken record. Like with the whole asking, he literally asked me first day, what's your short term and long term goals? And then like the next day I'm asking Catherine, I go, oh, what did he ask you? Like when you guys went to for a chat, he goes, oh, he asked me what my long term and short term goals are.

It's like, oh, he couldn't come up with any new questions. Yeah. And then he kept saying, like, I'm his top girl. I'm his top girl. And that when I asked about Janay, it was the whole, oh, we only were like with each other for four days. Like it's something like serious. And I go, okay, like, well, who like, who caught your eyes here? And he goes, obviously you like your eye candy any day of the week. But okay, but you go for Katherine.

I'm like, okay. I can't with you. It was like, okay, all right. I'm like, see ya. Like, I can't with you. It was like, what is it? Nails on a chalkboard with him. I swear to God. I put it. You've been such a generous guest. We really appreciate you coming on.

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That was great. That was great. That was very giving. Yeah. Not the sorry I thought this was Kailer. Oh man. But do we buy Aaron, like Aaron gives off in the best charming lovable way, like boy. And it's kind of his get out of jail free card.

I mean, like the more we're hearing it, is this like, is this just like young boyish stupidity or is this more Machiavellian and like this whole idea, when he goes in for the kiss, oh, I'm sorry, you were Kailer. Sydney is describing Erin basically trying to finger her. Yeah. And apologize and says, oh, I thought you were Kailer. Who says that to either Daniela or about, like, who says that?

It's fucked for both. I think it's the stupidity, because him walking into the recoupling, like, super excited after clearly hearing fuck Aaron, like, he doesn't see the weight of his decisions is what it is. Yeah, no. I do have a question, though.

Would you, because we were talking earlier about how, like, these boys are, their vision of a test is a physical test. It's not necessarily an emotional one. Like the way that they're getting to know these women is by kissing on them and dry humping them in bed. Which would hurt more for you to find out that they had a really strong emotional connection

with someone or that they were hooking up with someone else the whole time? Well, I think the name of the game is like, have chats and like be open and be vulnerable and talk to these people and see who you connect with. So I think that's like the name of the game. I think the physical part is like the fuck you. Like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

In this universe, I mean, like I get what you're saying in the grand scheme of things, like an emotional cheat might be more harder to accept than a physical cheat. And I think everyone's different, you know, I think it's a very situational. I think for Love Island, how strong of an emotional connection can you make in three or four days

with anyone, anywhere? I don't care if it's, you know, and so the physical is just so like in your face. But to that point, it's like had Cordell or Erin, right, gone, and that's what I was saying before, had they gone to Casa Amor and said, all right, I'm gonna test this relationship. It's all about testing the relationship. And let's say he like saying before, had they gone to Casa Amor and said, all right, I'm gonna test this relationship.

It's all about tests of relationship. And let's say he like really talked to, you know, Dea for three hours or they talked, he talked to Daniela for three hours. Okay, fine. And just like Serena, when she went on her date, you know, she's like, listen, let's talk, let's get to know each other.

Let's find what things we have compatible, what we have in common. If Cordell did that, was this like, I really want to get to know you, I'm physically attracted to you, you're gorgeous. And she's like, I want to show you how I'm going to treat you. He could have come back and like, I'm sure it would have been hard for Serena

to handle anything. I mean, bring her back was just to fuck you. But let's say he didn't bring her back. And he was like, truthfully, he was like, listen, I spent a lot of time with this girl and she was beautiful. And if I'm just going to be totally transparent, there was a connection.

There was things that she honestly made me feel that I wanna feel with you. But at the end of the day, I thought our connection was stronger and I wanna focus on that. Like, he could have done that, right? And honestly, he would have been a king. We would have like, Love Island,

Nation would have loved him for it. I don't even think him bringing her back would have hurt Serena that bad because they were open. I think it's because he was so physical and it was so much interface and it was so disrespectful and then to bring her back. But if none of the physical stuff happened, if it was just like chats and talks and whatever,

and he was like, I'm gonna bring her back because I still wanna get to know her, I don't know. And he's like, listen, Serena, we never kissed out of a challenge, but I find her so interesting, I'm so into her, I wanna get to know her more, but also I have this strong connection with you. I feel like Serena would have been like, listen, Serena, we never kissed out of a challenge, but I find her so interesting. I'm so into her. I just, I want to get to know her more, but also I have this strong connection with you. I feel like Serena would've been like, okay, sure, we're open, let's do it.

Definitely maybe. But what did she call it when she came back and gave her a whole speech and whatnot, and she was like, you got your little petal, petal wetter. Pecker wetter. Like whatever she called it, I was dying laughing. No, she delivered that speech so great. In the middle finger. When she licked it and then dying laughing. No, she delivered that speech so great.

When she licked it. Yeah. She, yeah. But I agree with you Natalie fully that I was like if there wasn't the physical aspects of it, I do think that she would be a little bit more reasonable about him bringing somebody back. I think she's definitely pissed at first

because she's very much about the disrespect and I think bringing a girl back is a bit disrespectful. But I do think it would have been easier for her to get over because even Serena, that's why she gets so fucking pissed at the guys. You know why she's pissed is because even as mad as Serena is, she still likes the guys, she's still crying. She, like, you know, when you're in these situations,

you saw it with a Kailor first. Like, you know, she wants to forgive them. You know what I'm saying? When you're hurt by someone you care about, your instinct is to wanna figure out, how do I forgive him? Fine, I'm mad, my instant reaction is embarrassment, hurt, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But once I calm down, is there a path forward?

And these guys were feeding Serena all this bullshit, and she was like, maybe, all right, maybe. She wasn't gonna do the whole K-Other thing where she's like, I'm gonna pretend to give you a hard time but sleep with you the first night. Serena was gonna make fucking Cordell pay for it. I have no doubt. But there was a path forward.

You could tell she was seeing a path forward and only to find out these guys were feeding her fucking bullshit. And that's why she lost her fucking shit because they made her doubt herself. They were cast lighting her. Yeah, they were lying to her and making her think something wasn't real

and then she started, her instinct was to move on but her heart said no, listen to these guys, give them a shot, maybe he didn't mean it and only to find out that it was all fucking bullshit, that's why she fucking lost it. And rightfully so and I don't know why anyone watching this shit is supposed to think that like, she owes him anything, like the opportunity to hump around

and fucking do, and especially after talking to Sydney, by the way, I don't even know what movie night is. Oh, get ready. It's like watching the video that they got times 100. They all get dressed up, they sit down, they have to pick a category at each team has to, like they either do competitions where they have to answer questions.

Does Erin not know about this? I don't know why anybody would go on Love Island having not seen it before. I genuinely don't. All these guys are lying. Yeah, no, and so what they do for movie night is they have the girls and the boys separated, like all together, but sitting on one side of the lawn and the other side, and they have like little competitions

where it's like a race, and then whichever side wins gets to pick a movie clip, and they're titled something different that like, so it'd be like Erin's feet massage or something, and then they would, the girls would decide we wanna watch that clip, and it would be the whole clip of him kissing her. I wonder if it's all, or maybe I can answer this. Is it stuff that we also, as the audience haven't seen?

Or is it the same? Maybe. I think it's just extended versions. So maybe if we just saw like that tiny clip, they'll show us the whole conversation that was happening. Are we gonna see, I'm sorry, this was Kayla when they're in bed snuggling.

I hope so. Like, you gotta show that. This is why it's on fucking Peacock. You know, so they can show all the X-rated shit that they couldn't show on CBS. No, I hope so. ABC. That would, I mean. Well, it wasn't originally on CBS, Love Island USA.

But also, segue to Bachelorette. Yeah, no, it's fucking crazy. I cannot wait, it's such a great show. Movie night is so, it's the best episode. Yep. Question before we move on to Bachelorette. I am fascinated by these guys, and I just wonder, is it because we now live in a world

where like, situationship is the most common like, relationship status? I know men throughout history have not seemed to demonstrate that they understand women in general, and I'm not here to act like I fucking know everything, but over the years I've learned a thing or two, and that is not to share in front of a woman's face. Here's a story, Nellie knows.

We have a friend, and this friend, very good with the ladies, and he started hanging out with someone, really cared about them. And they moved in, they were like moved in. They've been hanging out, but they're still kind of officially unofficial, even though they're like moving in.

Pretty official to me. And our friend was just like, well, their friend has, this person has to go out of town for a period of time. And so he was like genuinely like, I think I'm just gonna tell her to spread her wings and try things out. Like date other people.

Date other people. And Nellie and I were laughing at him being like, You live together. Do you think that sounds like a favor to her? You're living non-girlfriend girlfriend? You think she's gonna say, thank you so much? You know what, you want me to date other people? You want me to spread my wings?

Do I come back to this apartment after? Yeah, yeah. That's wild. I think he said I'm straight, but my point is, and this is a guy who is, again, comfortable around women. He's suave, he's got the riz, as they say, but he gave a, like, he was being, he was being genuine to us about, like, talking through his feelings.

And I'm like, do you, what, do you not know that this is not gonna go well for you? And it's like, he had no idea. And it was kind of crazy to me that, like, how, is it just because, like, with situationships, all these guys act like, you know, everyone just wants to fuck around and figure it out. Right, it's like until you have a label, all rules are gone.

What am I, a roommate? I live with you, most likely sleep with only you. That makes no sense. It actually frightens me how much emotional intelligence is at an all time rarity, because I'm just like, I feel like if you understood that, hey, we're gonna sign a lease together, I'm only sleeping with you,

I'm assuming you're not bringing other women to your you understood that like, hey, we're gonna sign a lease together, I'm only sleeping with you, I'm assuming you're not bringing other women to your apartment to be like, hey, it's Lucy, it's Lucy's hour, could you vacate the premises? That's your girlfriend. Well, yeah, it's like saying that you're falling in love with someone and then still needing a test. But this is the new norm, like hookup culture and fuck boys

and just this non-committal, this whole like, you can be talking about moving in with someone and still not have a label. Like having your cake and eating it too. Aren't we so glad we're out of the game? Oh, thank God. We're glad we're married. I'm like, it's scary out there and I feel bad for people because I would be, I would just be spinning around in circles. But some of it isn't always like, our friend cares about this person. And it was this like genuinely thinking this was the move. Is he pretty, but not very bright?

No, I mean like- Was it Tom Schwartz? No one you guys know. No one you guys know. He's not an idiot, that's for sure. It was like a genuine- It was like, I'm gonna do this for her, you know? Like she's gonna go out of town for a while.

Like why not? Like, yeah, she should like see other people. And he actually didn't know. Like he had no inkling that he'd be wrong. This person's like in their mid to late 20s. Was he planning on seeing other people too or just giving her the past? It was his way.

It was unclear. And maybe there's an element of like, you know, fuck man, if she's gonna be gone doing this thing. He wants freedom. Whatever. Are we traditionalists for believing in monogamy? But we were like. Fucking pilgrim.

Y'all are living together. Like y'all are together. I'm like, she's not gonna appreciate this. It's a trip. The way my feelings would be so hurt if Connor was like, hey, you're going to New York for a week. Have fun. Maybe you should just like, see other people.

It was a longer trip. I think it was like a month or something fun. Maybe you should just like, see other people. It was a longer trip. I think it was like a month or something. But still, it's so, it's gawked. It's now situationships. I feel like when I was like younger, it was all like exclusive. It's like before you were gonna be boyfriend and girlfriend or like officially dating, it was-

Like the steps. Worked. That's what Nick said to me. We were exclusive before boyfriend and girlfriend. We were. I'm hypocrite. I do think living together is more- I mean, that's better than like, I love you, but we're still gonna-

Well, we were seeing other people and you're like, I think we should be exclusive and stop seeing other people. And I was like, okay, cool. And then- But a week later, I think we were just boyfriend and girlfriend. I was gonna say, how quickly after did the labels come? I don't know if you actually ever like officially were like, will you did the labels come? I don't know if you actually ever officially were like, will you be my girlfriend?

I don't know if it was said like that. Your relationship wasn't official until you were engaged. Did you go from exclusive to engaged? You were never boyfriend and girlfriend? You never asked me? No, hold on. But I do remember.

How did we get engaged? I remember you going to Puerto Rico. I remember losing my mind. But you never were like, hey, will you be my girlfriend? I don't know if I actually did that, but I definitely. You did say I'm in love with you. Yes. And let's be exclusive.

Wait, did you say that you're falling in love with her before you guys were exclusive? No, I was on the phone and I said, I need to tell you something. Uh, and then, uh, she goes, what do you love me? And I said, yes, of course. Oh, breeze over that. Yes, of course. Were you all mousy about it? Like, I have to tell you something.

No, I remember exactly what it was. I was opening my fridge. Oh. I was looking through my fridge when she asked me that question. What were you looking for? I don't remember. He does like to cook.

So you were with his importance. But I was looking through my fridge when I was on the phone with you. But yeah, then I was just like, and then you came out. And then some group, and then- Okay, what? You fucked? And then when you left, we were in a relationship.

Yeah, no, I know how it went down. I'm just saying, like, I don't think the words, like, will you be my girlfriend ever happened. Maybe not. Are we even together? Oh my god. Are we married? It's like we're married, but we're not boyfriend and girlfriend.

We're married, but we've never dated. Yeah. How did we get here? But we live together. But we live together. We live together, yeah. I just wanted you to spread your wings. Oh, no.

It's crazy. Well, I cannot wait for movie night. All right, it's Bachelorette time. All right. It is tough going from fucking Casa Amor to night one. You know, it's like, it's, the biggest drama was a guy claiming that another guy drive his fake car. Well, I have to say, you guys did it wrong

because you can't watch Love Island and then go into Bachelorette. I like binge watched Love Island. And then the next day I was like clear palette. I'll do some Housewives. And then I was like, all right, tonight we're sitting down and we're gonna watch The Bachelorette. And I loved it.

Oh. I loved it. I loved it. What was your favorite part? All of it, all of it. I haven't been this excited. I think Joey's season really got me excited again. And then this season, I don't know, I liked the men. I liked the range of personalities. I liked that I didn't know,

like I was rooting for one guy at one point and then I'd be like, no, I fucking hate him. Who's your favorite? Okay, well, I was actually disappointed with Aaron because that's who I wanted to be like, no, I fucking hate him. Who's your fave? Okay, well I was actually disappointed with Aaron because that's who I wanted to be my fave. Noah's brother. Noah's brother. He was just a little boring.

He didn't have any shtick out of the limo. And then Sam M. I liked in the beginning, I don't really that much. He kind of reminds me of Jordan Rogers. Oh, the guy who had the first impression. The cowboy. He got the first impression. He does get some Jordan Rogers.

Oh, I don't like him at all. He looks like Johnny from Karate Kid dating myself. Maybe you guys watch Culver Cup. No, he does. I love all. He looks like Johnny from Karate Kid, dating myself. Maybe you guys watch Culver Cup. No, he does. I love Karate Kid. I did watch Karate Kid, yeah. He gives like the evil, the villain in 1980s rom-com. Yeah.

As soon as I heard him talk, I was like, he's gonna be the villain. She did say that. I was also like, he's probably gonna win. He did say shot o'clock though. Or be bachelor. They all said shot o'clock. I don't think so.

He has so many range. He could either be villain, he could win, or he could be the next bachelor. That's why he reminded me of Jordan Rogers, because Jordan Rogers was be villain, he could win, or he could be the next Bachelor. That's why you remind me of Jordan Rogers, because Jordan Rogers was the villain and also won. I think he's gonna be the villain. I was the villain and I was eventually the Bachelor.

There you go. So, you know, the villain and the Bachelorette. I think he's gonna be the villain, make it to final two, and then be the Bachelor. I think he's gonna be the villain and not make it to final four. Oh, and not be the Bachelor. I don't know, I just don't, I don't know, maybe.

I feel like I've seen this character before, so that's why I'm like. Yes, he's a very. And we know Bachelor loves to repeat their, loves this character. And the Bachelorette, the Bachelorette first impression rose. It's a big deal. Is usually a huge deal.

Who'd you give your first impression rose to? Rachel Lindsay. Aw. And she made it to final three or four. Final three, and that was like the, one of the worst, you know, based off of getting the first impression rose performance is usually first impression rose wins for the pacharel. Well, and then-

But I don't think that's gonna happen here. I liked the love version. I thought he was cute. The love version. Where he came in going, I'm a virgin of love. I just see that one gave me a little red flag. He rolled up to the wrong villa. I was like, you're not supposed to be here.

But he was cute. Well, then we had eggplant theory be fully exposed on this first episode with the- What? I forgot about the- Eggplant theory with the Jeremy rolling up in the sports car. Yeah, the Corvette. Oh, eggplant theory, yes.

And then he made the joke about his own penis and not overcompensated. You can say penis on the show, we won't believe it. He said, yeah. Why did he say penis? I don't know, out of anything I literally thought he said. I thought he said the C word. Cause that one's actually explicit.

Who says penis anymore? And then we had, what is his name? Brian, who was kind of like quiet douche. And then he comes in with that whole sports car thing. And you made me like Jeremy based off of him not reacting to Brian standing over him in the car with the car keys. That scene was so awkward.

Which one is the aesthetic guy that I said when we were doing bios that I hated him? Oh, the? The guy who loves Botox. Who loves Botox? Who is obnoxious as hell this entire episode. Brian was the aesthetic person. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Okay, so shot of cocks, so that's the asshole. Yeah, the asshole. Because I literally was like, I fucking hate this guy. I literally was like, I fucking hate this guy. I read his files, I fucking hate this guy. Turns out I hate this guy. Accurate, accurate as fuck. Well, he was awful and made me actually feel bad for Jeremy with the sports car.

Why did you feel bad for Jeremy? Because Jeremy's having his moment with Jen and then all of a sudden the alarm keeps going off. So he's already immediately fucking with him and locking the car door. And then he walks up, stands over him, and opens the car door, and it's pretty much like your time's up, buddy.

It acts like it's his car too. Yeah. Which is random. But it's clearly, who's the guy who brought the car? It's Jeremy's car. It's Jeremy's car, that. Is it though? It could be.

Isn't he from New York? He said he shipped it over. Regardless, it's his prop, so call it what it is. I'm like, it's that demanding your authority over this guy, and then saying, get out of the car, it's his prop. So like call it what it is. I'm like, it's that like demanding your like authority over this guy and then saying, get out of the car. It's my turn. And then the guy was like,

can I just get like five more minutes? And he was like, no, you're done, get out. And I was like, this is so awkward. I thought the weird part was him acting like it was his car. That was weirder to me. It's also like a turn off. Oh, for sure.

I would have immediately sent him home. Oh yeah. Feeling like many to like establish their dominance. And I'm like, that's not cute peeing on a hydrant. This isn't cute at all. No. I don't think either of them look good. I didn't mean he didn't look good, but.

You have a point. It might not be his car. It's definitely not his car. It doesn't matter. That's not the point. That's not the point. Yeah, it doesn't matter. That's not what we're arguing.

He brought it as his prop. It's like if someone was eating the peppers. And it's like, oh my God. It's my food, I brought that. Like, what are you doing? Somebody comes out with toilet paper wrapped around their head and being like, me too. But that's the thing, it's not really his.

Jeremy was cute though, because he did it and Jen came in with a go-kart, right? So it's kind of like a call back to like what she did. Sure, yeah, I mean, great entrance, but it's like, I don't know. It's like none of it, it's not. He rented it just to drive here? No, the show, yeah, the show got it for him.

I'm sure he was like, what do you wanna do? It's like, I'd love to drive- Again, it's not about the car. That doesn't matter. Why doesn't that matter? Because it's not just prop. It doesn't matter. Grant came out looking like that.

I know, you said that. It's Brian, it's Brian being like, get out, like get out of this car, it's mine. I'm not arguing that he's not a douchebag for doing what he did. I get that. But it's like we know the guy that comes in in like a horse carriage or on the horseback

didn't ride in on a horse. Obviously that's a part of like who he is or part of his package. It's not like, oh, well, he's a horse farmer so he brought his own horse from Texas. And we'd also say the guy with the horse, the guy, he brought his horse. Like that's, we would say that.

It's his identifier. So is it the, like I get the standing over and like I'm not gonna leave and yada yada, but like let's say he didn't interrupt him. Is it the, like, and he went and brought Jen to Jeremy's car, allegedly, and got into it and fucked around with it? Weird, weird.

That would be weird. It's not his prop, it's weird. Why would you get in someone else's shit? What if he did something funny? I don't, why? He would be weird. It's not his prop, it's weird. Why would you get in someone else's shit? What if he did something funny? I don't, why is it? He's not funny. He's not funny, he's not charming. He has zero, he can't do an expression

and he has so much Botox. I was so mad when he got a rose. Same. I feel like it's gonna, I mean, he's definitely, he's obviously gonna be villain. He's obviously like super outspoken and like not afraid to stir up drama, so he's gonna be around for a while, unfortunately for me.

What were your favorites? I didn't really have any. What do we think of Jonathan? He was the one that came in wrapped with his face and said, it's about not my looks, but my personality. Right, and then they have a conversation for four minutes. I wanted him to be stunning. I thought he was cute.

Super handsome. I wanted Tyler Cameron's face. I wanted like- Model. Right, if you're gonna do that, you gotta be really hot. To be fair, I'm like, I do feel like I was pleasantly surprised, or even then I couldn't rate him on like a one to 10, comparing him to the other guys.

So when he took it off, I was like, okay, here we are. Super attractive guy. I just, I wanted like a halo over his face, where it was this like model. But you could tell that it wasn't, I mean, from the little bits that you could see, I knew I wasn't expecting that much. But if Tyler came and wrapped his face,

you wouldn't, you'd be like, maybe he's good looking, maybe he's not. He's got some really pretty eyes. Okay. Okay, Leia. My favorite was Hakeem. I actually really liked him too. I was, I know he's not gonna win.

He's so awkward in the beginning with the balloons. He's cute and charming and funny. And he's got the best facial expressions. But by the end of it, yeah, no, I was like, when he kept going, I hope my name gets called, I do too. And he commented on the ghost, ghosting comment. He was just like, what the fuck?

Jen's type, it seems very unclear. She also kind of hates maybe, and also they did the whole preview like they did with Joey. I hope there's more drama. It was kind of, you know, she's like, I can't get engaged to you. And then she walks into some other person's hotel room. And then her ex comes back or something.

Oh, that's right. Her ex allegedly comes back. I'm gonna guess that Sam is her type because she liked him from the second that he walked up and then gave him the first impression, Rose, and was like, I was thinking about him all night. So I'm like, something tells me. She did do an interview and spoke about how she, she did comment on the lack of Asian men in the cast.

Did she send home any Asian men first night? No. No. And there was a lot of, there was a lot of clips of one of them. I thought that her first chat with Thomas N was really awesome. Like they really had a lot of clips of one of those. I thought that her first chat with Thomas N was really awesome. They really had a lot in common. About their parents?

And I liked his limo entrance also, yeah. About their immigrant parents. He seems like a sweet guy and I don't think she's interested in him at all. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm really curious who she is into. I really like the Army Ranger, but that's just me. Marcus. Thanks for serving our country. He also had the first lim, but that's just me. Marcus.

Thanks for serving our country. He also had the first limo entrance. Yeah, he did. Which is always important. Like a classic. Well, whoever comes out of the limo first typically is a top four. Yeah. Because keep in mind how they exit the limo in real life isn't how it's aired.

Yeah. The order of it. Right. I liked that they did the truth or dare game. And I wanted to see way more of it than was shown. Yeah. Oh, the order of it. Right. I liked that they did the Truth or Dare game and I wanted to see way more of it than was shown. Yeah, I thought we were getting a little violent. I thought we were, oh yeah, let's get some fucking messy night what? And then it's like some guy did the splits. Then the guy who flashed them got sent home.

Who the biggest, yeah. Brett also got sent home. That underwear he was wearing. He did that for nothing. Oh, also the underwear. The tiger underwear. Like Ethica or whatever it is. Do you think he is like, it's his lucky underwear?

Like what made him night one of the Bachelorette? And keep in mind, when night one of the Bachelorette, like you have three or four days to sit in a fucking hotel room. I literally did this. I literally did this in my hotel room. I practiced sitting in my chair and I practiced getting up and walking to Andy.

And I was like trying to simulate getting out of a car. My point is you have all, you have three fucking days to do nothing but think about getting out of this fucking limo, right? No, you're so right. He bought that in high school. Did you pick your underwear?

And kept it. You think about everything. Really? I like to think. So that man picked out that underwear for that night. He got those from Tillies in high school and he won some basketball game and now he's 24 and he was like, yep, this one. I don't have a pair of lucky underwear.

I was going to say I like the idea of him getting ready before going and he's like listening to like, you're going to hear me roar. And like fighting on the eye of the tiger. You fight eye of the tiger. Wait, does anybody have like a lucky thing that they do or take or put on before a big event? No. Or a ritual? No. No.

Be kind to myself. You've got this girly. Protect my peace. Give Nick a smoocher. There you go. Good luck kiss. Good luck kiss, yeah. No, but he thought of that. That was a choice he made.

Do you think he was embarrassed then when they were like, you got a flash and he was like, Oh no, my underwear. He was considering it. He was like, fuck. a flash and he was like, Oh no, my underwear. He was considering it. He was like, okay, I gotta do it. I gotta do it. Can you imagine if he's like, I'm just gonna like go full. He took off his underwear with his pants because he was too embarrassed to show his underwear.

Honestly, yeah. Who made the creative decision to use the rose instead of a black box and or blur? It was kind of cute. I don't know, I kind of wanted the black box. Yeah, the rose felt like, A little tighty. For kind of wanted the black box. Yeah, the rose felt like. A little tighty. For the gurney patient.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Jonathan. It felt very like, yeah, I don't know, not ABC. So his ass was just out all night. Yeah. That's so bold. Well, if he has a nice one.

It was. Also like why, why, ABC, just if a guy, make him get naked. He clearly wasn't naked. He kept his tiger underwear on and he ran back. For the flashing, yeah. Yeah, they made it seem like him get naked. He clearly wasn't naked. He kept his tiger underwear on and he ran back. For the flashing, yeah. Yeah, they made it seem like he was naked. He clearly wasn't.

There's like new rules and regulations these days too. They're probably like, we can't make him feel uncomfortable and sexually exploit him because he could sue us for harassment. Or make Jen uncomfortable. True. That too. That true. I also don't wanna see a soft penis.

Nobody wants to. I can assure you that they did not care about that when I was the first one. Times were different. Times were different. Times were different. And then you've got Mo's saying that he ghosts women all the time and then just. Yeah, really threw that out there.

Leaving that there. Red flag. Did he get ghosted essentially? The math teacher, he's like, have you ever ghosted anyone? He's like, oh, of course. And he just gets back in the group. All the time.

All the time, for sure. No problem. He went home. He did. Obvious, I mean, I would have sent him home right then and there. So who are our top four? I have no idea.

I think the version makes it far, just for the fact that the teaser at the end is him saying, I love you, and then everybody getting mad, being like, you don't know what love is. Yeah. So he makes it far enough. And that's Sam N.

Yeah. He's kind of a red flag for me, I'm not gonna lie. He is, he definitely is. He's the love version? Yeah. No, he's the one who got cheated on by his girlfriend. No, he's never been in a relationship and he's never been in love, but he's not a virgin virgin.

Which one do you like, Sam N or Sam M? N. Nebraska. Or Pan. Is it Pan? M as in Nancy or M as in Mary? He makes it far though, I think. M is the blonde one and N.

M is the one who got the first impression rose. Yeah, M got the first impression rose. Was Sam N the one that brought puppies? No, that was- Thomas A. Thomas A. Has that ever been done before? Bringing puppies.

Honestly, genius. Yeah, well, he also- Who doesn't love puppies? He's the one who does the pet portraits, right? Oh, yeah, he was. Does anyone else like Spencer? Where do you think you're going? Spencer seems kind of nice.

I liked Spencer. I like Spencer. I don't remember him. He's the mama's boy. Nope. I think they need to hire the people who cast for Love Island for the Bachelorette. I honestly really liked Devin,

but I mean the preview show that he's gonna get into some drama. Previews don't. You don't think so? They take things out of context. For sure. The super tease, which is what we're all referring to, is often very misleading.

Yeah. It's also literally so on script. I mean, it's like, there's, I just have to tell you, there's guys here for the wrong reasons, and then, let's give the speech, if you're here for the wrong reasons, you can go. It's just so like, we've got to, got to give them something new. They're still, well, they're still doing

the never done before thing right now. Cause now she's going to Australia. No, you know what? Maybe, so her ex comes back. They've done that, haven't they? Have they ever ended up with the ex? You better up. Well, I was a runner up.

There you go. But it's also like that we've never done this before. We're shipping you to Australia. Right away. Okay, sucks for whoever gets voted off night two, the long ass night. Right, I was thinking about that too. Would you rather get sent home night one

to Australia. And find out that they could go to Australia or get sent home week two after you basically are there for three fucking days and you don't. You flew for two of them. Yeah, and you get to go on one group date and get no attention from the Bachelorette

and rest assured that's a middle fucking seat they're all sitting in. Australia. Australia. Free snacks on the plane. I was gonna say- Snacks? You do it for-

It depends what airline you're on. First of all, we flew United to the lake house. What the fuck are those snacks? Wait, what were they, the little pretzels? No, Natalie threw Delta and bought the snacks when we got home, she loved the- The honey mustard pretzels. Delta knows what the honey mustard pretzels are so good.

The gummies that Delta has, all of Delta's snacks are top fucking tier. United has some weird pretzel, it's like Chex Mix, but not, you know? Southwest does that too, yeah. And then it's some sort of like quinoa chocolate crisps. Oh, oh yes, I love that. And then like a fruit bar. Airplane snacks are like grandma candy.

You know, it's like the type of candy that you're like, who makes this? And why is this at TJ Maxx? You know, and you're just like, they're buying it at TJ Maxx. 100% It's like those like strawberry candies that are like, oh, like weirdly stale. Why do they make these? Why can't they just get regular candy?

Regular candy is cheap. But you're starving. You're so hungry. And you're starving, you're so hungry, and you're like, I don't have the pretzels, I guess. And they're all stale, and you're just, it's the worst. TJ Maxx has those rice roll things. You don't know if you've had them. It's like the airline industry and grandma figured out,

they're the only people who buy this obscure type of snacks or food that normally no one ever buys ever anywhere for any other purpose. But not Delta. No. I don't, what is Delta's like even, Delta's now like pairing with like John and Vinny's. Yeah, John and Vinny's meatballs.

They had Delta on the way to New York. Great, short rib. But if you're not in first class, what are the snacks? Pistachios, the like green ones like that. Yeah, they give you pistachios. They give you hot chocolate, they give you barbecue chips or some sort of like

sun chip or something like that. Sun chips. It's all brands you recognize. Yeah, you know that shit. Delta for first class, they have that too for long flights. They have like a little front area where you can just go and grab snacks. Where were we going where we were on a flight

and they had that in the middle? That's elite. Because I finished my snacks before we take off. And the way that I have to be like, can I please have two? Like now I sound like a fat ass. Like let me just go up there while no one's looking at me and grab four bags of chips and sit back down.

Would you like a whole can? Yeah. Yeah. I have a question. Okay, if you're flying international or just flying and they're giving a meal, do you wake each other? Like what's the etiquette? You don't fucking eat it.

You don't fucking eat it at all. You don't eat airplane food. Unless it's John and Vinny's meatballs, you do not eat airplane food. I was gonna say, first class Delta. Why don't you eat the food? Because, no you don't, because Delta just put emergency landing,

12 people in the fucking hospital. Because of the food? Yes, they all got fucking food poisoning from the food on the airplane. Are we sure it's Delta? Look it up, Delta. Sorry, Delta, love ya, but what the fuck? Where are they making that food?

The microwave. What do they say about airplane water? You don't drink the airplane coffee because they make it. You can't drink the coffee, yeah. It was Delta. But I do that too. No, when they wake us,

like when we are lucky enough to fly first class, people, they always come before you start the flight, they're like, will you the coffee, yeah. It was Delta. But I do that too. No, when they wake us, like, when we are lucky enough to fly first class, people, they always come before you start to fly, they're like, will you be having, no. Like really? Like absolutely not. The only time I ever ate was the John and Vinny meatballs. You don't eat airplane food. The way people get so excited about their TV dinners.

You don't eat fish. The lobster bisque and the salad with the cookie and cream. It's like that, where did you pull that out of? What cabinet is up there that you're pulling this food out of? Wait, that's what I'm saying. You got these, all these people are spending $2,000 or whatever the bullshit it is to fly first class.

They're probably mostly like executives or whatever. And they get so fucking excited about what is essentially a TV dinner. Just eat before, just eat, like have like on your way time it out where you have a whole meal or or get the snacks. Yes. If you're flying New York, get fucking Shake Shack. We read the article. What is that? How many it was?

They did emergency landing because like people got fucking sick. It says Delta's food safety team has engaged our suppliers to immediately isolate the product and launch a thorough investigation into the incident. This is not the service Delta is known for and we sincerely apologize. Because basically we love Delta and we didn't have this problem because we're smart enough not to eat this fucking food. It says like just I love airplane food. What I do. I also love hospital food. No listen. When a flight heading from Detroit to Amsterdam with 277 passengers on board diverted to New York after crew members learned that some of the meals served in economy passengers were spoiled. That's a two and a half

hour flight and less than two and a half hours they were shitting themselves so much. And allegedly moldy food from the flight the airline has not confirmed those photos and said that they were investigating it. So you think they're giving economy moldy food but first class. Maybe. If it's sandwiches. It's all the same, it's coming from the same place. Nope. It's all coming from the same cabinet. Nope. Up at the front.

When you get your menu for economy flying, you get offered a sandwich. You get offered, like you don't get offered hot food. But where is it all? There is not a kitchen on a flight. No, there's like a yogurt parfait. They have like a thing. It's still TV dinners.

It's TV dinners, yeah. To each their own. I love it. And I love the little bread rolls and the march and the butter. You're adorable. And I did get food poisoning on a 15-hour flight. You did? So there you go. Yeah.

And she said, I'd do it again. Yep. Some really nice man gave me his first policy. The Miracle of Flight is already incredible. We do not need to be serving gourmet meals. We don't. Keep it to snacks. We do not need to be serving gourmet meals. We don't, keep it to snacks. I did find out you can bring full on meals for TSA recently.

Yes, you can bring food, you cannot bring a drink. You can bring a Tupperware. Like a hot meal, yeah. You can, absolutely. So might as well just bring your own food. Yeah, you can bring snacks and stuff. Absolutely, and then have a microwave it. If you fly first class,

just be like, hey, can you warm this up? No, but also airports have great food. Expensive though. And Leia, they do not. I love going to the airport. I go early and I get my food. And then I also eat on the plane. What is going on?

Are we the minority here? Maybe we are. Maybe. I love you. I love when they're portioned out. Nothing ever tastes. And then your little fruit cup. The quality is just like, oh, I was made in an airport.

I've never been on a flight long enough to eat a meal. So. Wow. Well, hold that. Let us know in the fucking comments. Jesus, we gotta go. We will see you tomorrow for what will be a jaw-dropping, going deeper episode.

I cannot wait for you all to hear it. Tune in. I know you wanted to hear from this person for a while. She has a for you all to hear it. Tune in. I know you wanted to hear from this person for a while. She has a lot to say. Ooh, you gave a hint. I gave a hint. Very exciting. You're not gonna wanna miss it.

And then Thursday, more reality recap. We'll be talking more Love, I Love. I'm sure we'll be talking some Bachelorette as well. Housewives. Housewives, some New Jersey. You will not wanna miss it. Plus we'll be continuing to talk about the insanity that is airplane food and Leah's first love.

Oh my God. Also super excited for you to have your babies. You get this hospital food. Oh, so excited. I wouldn't let Natalie eat the hospital food. I got, I went and got every meal. Alex, I left. Nope. She wants it. I eat the hospital food. I went and got every meal. Alex, I left. She wants it.

I want the hospital food. I want the Jell-O. Fuck. You're crazy. Bye. Bye.