The Viall Files - E775 - Love Island w/ Cazzie David, Bachelorette Casting, Gypsy Rose Pregnancy, and Parenting Bloopers

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

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skin throughout potty training. Learn more at Huggies.com. Once again, head to huggies.com to learn more. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host Nick, we got the household here. God, I love Love Island, it's so fucking good. I feel like it's my passion now. To make- It's a hobby. Well no, it's my passion, like my goal,

I'm watching Love Island and all I can think about is I need everyone in America. It should be a Super Bowl event. The Love Island finale should be like a Super Bowl event. What even is a Love Island finale? Is it like just as dramatic? Yeah. It is, okay. Is it? It's fun, it's fun.

It's actually more cute than dramatic. Cause like perfect match finale, honestly a little, you know. Now lackluster, I think you have final four couples or three couples. Yeah and they all dress up like it's prom. Yeah. That's where they drop the ball right? And like whoever like if they try, okay. There's no ball drop.

There's no ball drop. I was like I was gonna say. This isn't Times Square. Where we're going. Well and like if they like it's isn't it like if one of them drops the ball then they don't trust each other? I think they do that once. No they have, no, they have done.

Like a trustful test. No, no, they do like, so the winner, and I don't think anybody, correct me if I'm wrong, everyone, but I don't think anybody has ever done this, but they do give you the option to either share the money or take it yourself. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yes.

Like choose love or choose the money kind of thing. Is it like a la bachelor pad, where if you both choose to keep it, then you get none. And if you both choose to share it, you share it. I honestly feel like it's a woman's choice. I've never seen anybody not share. Not share. So this is what I'm talking about.

The clip I saw was like a gold ball and then one of them dropped it and it shattered. So then she chose the money over the guy. Are you sure that wasn't Bachelor Pad? No, no, no, no. That wasn't even a lot. Sarah was, I think the host, Are you sure that wasn't Bachelor Pad? No, no, no. That wasn't even a lie. Sarah was, I think, the host, maybe. That was crazy on Bachelor Pad, where one person.

Yeah, one person did it. Was it the twin? His name was Nick. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yes, yes. I remember this now. It was an iconic moment in Bachelor Nation history.

That's the first time I experienced hate. I'm excited for, it was a smart move on his part. True. What would it cost you to be hated by the entire internet? Ooh, that's a good question. Cause it was a $250,000 he won, I believe it was. I don't remember, but that's a good question. Listen, you can be canceled all you want,

but all you have to do is hold down this button on the side of your phone and then your phone turns off. And then you're just like, it's a normal life. You know? You're not wrong. To answer your question though, I'd probably 500k? Period, half a mil.

500k, wow, you're expensive. I'm really, I have a really thin skin. Really sensitive over here. Real sensitive. Speaking of nothing, I just want to share, I, we have merch. Well, it's not out yet, but I have designed it and it is ready to be released. And let me just say, it's really good. It's really good.

It's like really good. Oh, I can't wait to see it. Nali put her exquisite taste. We've been like, you know, we have merch available. It's like, whatever, if we're being honest. We really didn't invest our energy and time, but we wanted to put out high quality, cool things that you'd wanna wear, you'd wanna put on your body.

Anyways, that was the goal. If there are three words describe the new revamp, what are they? I would say comfy one, cool. Cool. I would say cool, comfy. Okay, cool, comfy and. Cute.

Hmm. You going for the alliteration? Yeah, cool, comfy, cute. Snap. I mean, it is definitely all of the above, but it's like I teamed up with my good friend, Rachel Ritt, who is a graphic designer. She's incredibly talented

and we have some good stuff coming out. Yeah, so be on the lookout for that soon. We're excited. We are. I'm excited. But speaking of perfect match, Jess Vestal is with us. We dropped the going big, going deeper episode yesterday. Everyone's talking about it. If you've been a fan of Jess, obviously if you or weren't a fan of Jess and you were maybe

critics critical of her choices on Perfect Match or had some burning questions about what really happened with her and Harry following the show, all of those questions are answered and so much more. So be sure to check that out. Yeah, I feel like there was a lot of unanswered questions after the show and it did everything I needed it to. It was so giving. Anyways, I'm very excited about talking about Love Island. Again, I think it needs to be event.

This is coming from someone who, like many of you, who are reality TV fans and who maybe didn't jump on the Love Island band. Yes, when you hear that it's almost every day. Well, how many episodes of Love Island USA have there been 27? 26? Yeah, we're like close to 30. It sounds like a lot.

It really does, but there's something about it where it's just so easy to watch. It's so good. I don't know what it is. So if you've been afraid to commit to Love Island, hear me now, give it a shot, you won't regret it. It's so good. It's so fucking good.

Anyways, we have Kazzie David on with us later this episode to talk with us all about Love Island. We'll get into some Bachelorette kind of fallout from the episode. Everyone's mad that the, what's his name, Brett? Brett? Brett? Went away?

I'm personally really upset about it. Anyways, I don't know why. I mean, I know why. I know why everyone's upset, but there's only one reason why. And I think why does he want to be known as that guy? We'll get into it. We'll get into it.

Anyways, plus we got some New Jersey Housewives drama to get into, but before we get into all of that, we got Household Headlines and Gypsy Rose is pregnant. Woo. That's a long way away from her coming on this podcast with Ryan. Ryan. Boy, it's just like, we forgot he.

Well, it's just like two, it's like. It's been seven months. We're instantly. Natalie was so pregnant. No, I was, I was about to pop. That was our baby moon. I emailed Gypsy and congratulated her. Emailed.

Well, because she DM'd me on TikTok to congratulate us on our marriage, but she doesn't seem to be receiving TikTok DMs, which, smart, I'm sure Gypsy shut that down. She emailed us a while back, so I emailed her and said, congratulations. Having her back yet? I'm sure she is. I say it's an email. Yeah. I don't have any other direct contact information. I'm just trying to imagine Gypsy being like

waking up in the morning, drinking a shell of coffee and being like, I gotta check my emails. And she's like. She emailed how we have her email cause she emailed us. She's like American Eagle, Tarja. The bell bells. Oh, Nick.

I'm like an eagle, Tarja. Oh, Nick. Anyways, what do we think about Gypsy being pregnant? I mean, she's moving quickly. How old is she? 30? I mean, listen, I think it's a beautiful thing. Having a child, I mean, listen, hard work. It's the best thing ever.

She's 32. She said it was completely unexpected, but that she's very excited. Yeah, it's truly the best thing ever. Yeah, I think she said when we interviewed her that she's very excited. Yeah, it's truly the best thing ever. Yeah, I think she said on, when we interviewed her, that she really did wanna be a mom. She was like really excited to not do what her mother did. I think she'll be a great mom.

Yeah, she asked us to come into the living room and watch. No, I'm kidding. Oh my God, I was like, that's, whoa. Yeah, I was like, I don't know. And you're emailing her? I'll be there. Did she ask you over email? Over email. She actually sent that in the mail,

the letter, the snow mail. That was a joke. Didn't happen, didn't happen. She says she's craving orange juice and praised Ken for being very gracious and very forgiving as he deals with crazy mood swings. Did you have crazy mood swings? No, the whole time I didn't until last week

when my lunch plans were changed. Totally changed, yeah. And I lost my shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you? I didn't until last week when my lunch plans were changed and I lost my shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you? I don't think so. I, yeah, I don't really think so. What is crazy is that, and you will soon experience this, but like, and this might be a little

TMI, very, very sorry, but I did get my period back. And that is hell. That was an event. No, it's like- Natalie's like, Nick! What? We got to the lake. but I did get my period back, and that is hell. That was an event. No, it's like. Natalie's like, Nick, what? We got to the lake, she's like, I mean, TMI. Oh, of course, at the lake.

No, of course. As soon as we got there. No, literally, of course. So yeah, then I had to ask my mom for stuff. I literally felt 15 again. I was like, I don't know anything. She pulled me aside, she's like, I'm bleeding. You can say it.

I can't say it. Are'm bleeding. You can say it. Can I say it? Are you excited? You can say it. No. She made it seem like maybe something's wrong. Well, I didn't know. I haven't had a period in over a year.

So I was like, oh God, what do I, and then I was like, do I use, okay, wait, how does this work? If you were a teenage girl. No, I literally was. And then I was like, Nick, I'm nervous. Can you ask your mom if she has anything? Because I don't know what to do.

And it was really scary, but we got through it. I have a question. Yeah. Is it like double strong? I was fine. You haven't had it for like how many months? Oh yeah, it was incredibly, yeah. It was gnarly.

And I was like, the floodgates opened and I was like, I don't know. Like I feel like, have I been shot? Am I losing blood somewhere? Like it was a little intense. But I say all that because now I was talking to my sister about it and she said, now like my hormones, everything's working for me now

and like not river anymore, which is really sad because I haven't even stopped breastfeeding. So I don't know like why I got my period because I thought like it was just a very, I was like, what is happening? I'll do whatever it takes to make this go, I'll go another month. Literally like I will do anything.

I'm not ready for this. Is that why you text me saying, do you think we should have another baby? Because you're like skip the period. No, that is very interesting because it's like for the last many, many, many months, what is it, like 12, almost a year now, your body has not been for you.

No, I know. It's crazy. For nine months, it wasn't for me. And then for the last five months, it's been- Still not for you. It's still not for me. So like every vitamin that I'm taking is going to river. And so my sister was like, well now they're going to you.

And like, she was like, your hair will start growing back. Like your skin will start getting, she was like, everything's gonna start like working for yourself again. No, my skin is honestly the best it's ever been currently in this moment, I will say. I will say it is the best it has ever been. Is that why you had the phantom kicks?

Because you lost your period. Phantom kicks. Okay. Wait a fucking second. No, it's a cramp. No. They're cramps? No.

I need to hear this. Okay, I didn't know this was a thing. I've seen it on TikTok. I had heard people talk about it, but it's basically like after you give birth and like couple months later, you will like feel what feels like a baby kicking inside of your belly.

It literally feels like. It a hundred percent feels River is still kicking me. Is it comforting? I don't, like the first time I was like, this is, it kind of scared me, it really made me nervous, and then I was like, wait, kind of is. Like, it's kind of sad, but it's really crazy.

And then I asked Nick's mom about it, because Nick was like, I don't know, it's a real thing. And so I was like, Mary. I think so. So I was like, Mary, I think so. So I was like, Mary, did- That's exactly what you sound like. I was like, Mary, did you have Phantom kicks? And she was like, what is that?

It's like when you feel it, and she was like, oh God, yeah, absolutely. Crazy. Wow. Yeah. Do you want to talk about building baby stuff? Oh my God. Just a heads up for all the dads out there or the moms,

when it comes to baby equipment, car seats, strollers, play things, whatever, I know you men out there and those ladies tell your men this because, read their instructions. Search the YouTube. It is, you know, just watch a simple YouTube. Every single baby piece of equipment, I think every guy's just like, I can figure this out.

It's like whatever, it's intuitive, whatever. I don't have to read this. It's your most annoying quality, to be honest. I build everything myself, because I go, I can't sit here and watch this. Are you saying men in general? Just yeah, the whole like, I got this, I don't need directions.

And it's like, it's literally lettered out. All of the things take, put A to B. It's a very wrong book. It hurts my brain. Anyway, so Danny. It's already wrong. It hurts my brain. Anyway, also. Danny was in cabinet yesterday and it's completely lopsided.

I'm just like. Also, don't do this right before you need to use it. Like don't open it for the first time when you're like about to use the car seat or the stroller and you're running late because you will have a fucking meltdown. A bitch fit. A BS.

Truly, Nally's mom was there when I first got out her stroller and she's like, calm down, just let me do it. Because it makes no sense. At the same time, it's so simple and every time, you can spend hours trying to figure it out, like where's the fucking button? There must be a button somewhere and it's gonna be by where the thing is gonna unlatch.

No, but it is real simple. The button's somewhere else. It's not where you would think it would be. And like, you will lose your mind spending hours trying to figure out like how this works. You watch a simple video, all of a sudden you're like, yeah, the button's right there. And you're like, oh, that was so fucking simple.

Like the whole thing collapses. The whole thing just like, it shrinks. Have you seen the TikTok of that where it's this one man trying to close a stroller outside of his trunk and he is like flipping it upside down. An older man comes and tries to help him. It's two men working on it. Another man comes up, it's three men working on it.

Then a woman just walks up and just grabs the button on the handle and it just. Yes, yes. Just watch the video. Watch the video, save yourself like the mental pain and energy and anguish. You'll figure other things out. But they definitely, the engineers of baby equipment stuff

decided to fuck with men. Absolutely. We're just gonna fuck with dads. We're gonna just make their life miserable. Moms are having phantom kicks and all this other shit. We're just gonna fuck with their mental health by making it so fucking confusing. And they have to read the directions.

Equality. But the engineers was like, how should we build this? Like we decided no matter what, it is required for you to read the directions or you will never figure it out. And that's how they start. That was their starting point of making car seats and strollers.

I believe that sincerely. What's harder, IKEA furniture or baby strollers? Oh, IKEA furniture. Because again, all you have to do is read the, you just have to watch the video. It's a picture. It's a picture. Yeah, there's no instructions.

It says A over the large screws. Do this. B over the smaller screws. I will say sometimes it says like AA, BB, ABAC, and I'm like, girl. And then it's like, this is AA. Double AA. The baby stuff is not hard to do. You just have to like watch the video

and then again, it's usually one or two buttons or steps. Ikea furniture, the smartest, like prodigy children couldn't figure it out. Yeah, except for Sarah. And I will flex on that. We should do it. Are you good with IKEA furniture? Absolutely. I'm good with any furniture because I read the directions.

No, but the directions are so bad. The directions on IKEA furniture are vague. They're like suggestions. They're just like, and they're these little pictures of these tools. They're like, it's, it's, it's. They're just pictures. When, when the direction is just pictures.

And you get one tool. Yeah. And it's one tool. It's one Allen wrench. And that's it. Danny and I built the crib the other day and I gave him the wrong screws because yeah, it was, it said A and I gave him the double A screws very early on.

Oh no. This is a reading error. And then. Not a direction error. Yeah. And then we get to the end and I'm like, oh no. Because then we needed the A screws. Double A and you're like. Or what, yeah. and I'm like, oh no. Cause then we needed the A screws. Double A and you're like.

Or what, yeah and I was like. Did you fuck up the threads? Oh, we used them. They didn't give it to us in the box. And I was like, oh no, please tell me you didn't tighten those really tight. And then do you keep that Allen wrench in your toolbox for years?

Oh yes, do you know how many Allen wrenches of all sizes I have? One comes in every order. And you're like, I will use this for something so serious. My toolbox is just Allen wrench. Nothing else. So many Allen wrenches. Someone's like, excuse me, do you have a screwdriver? You're like, what about this Allen wrench?

I have 200 Allen wrenches of all sizes. Which one do you need? And then you're building something and you need an Allen wrench and you try every single one and none of them fit. And I'm just like, why do I have 50 of these and none of them fit this hole? Absolutely brutal. Ah, building furniture. Anyway. Well, Halle Berry and Glenn Close were joining Kim Kardashian in a new Ryan Murphy Hulu legal

drama. Joining Kim Kardashian. I agree. Two iconic actors. Oscar-winning, Oscar-nominated actresses. I believe they both won. Halle Berry did for sure. Halle Berry and Glenn Close.

Glenn Close has been in the game for five decades. They're literally both icons. I met Halle. I interviewed Halle. Good for you. I think Ryan Murphy is really good friends with Kim and they're like, Yeah. Watch this.

I bet she's also like frontin' some on executive producers. For sure. She's cast in on American Horror Story last season. Two seasons. They're both two seasons. Yeah, they did two seasons. She was on SNL. They're also sharing a network with Hulu, so I'm like, there's already like kind of

a little sweetheart deal going on there, I'm assuming too. Like it's staying in the network. My take is Ryan Murphy's becoming more campy. So he's losing his like mainstream television grappled. So then he's like, okay, Kim is like a campy figure to use. So now she's her muse. I also think it brings a lot of, I mean, viewers. Yeah, for sure. Because people wanna see Kim Kardashian act. She's pretty decent. I also think it brings a lot of, I mean, viewers.

Because people wanna see Kim Kardashian act. She's pretty decent. She's good as an agent. She's good as an agent. I liked her on this one. I mean, props to her, but she's doing it. She is a lawyer too. She puts in the, you cannot deny Kim Kardashian's work ethic.

Not at all, no. And if you work hard at anything, you can be decent. Absolutely, that and her strategy, or the Ryan Murphy strategy where it's like, okay, first casted as Kim Kardashian, now we're gonna like shoulder her, flank her with two Oscar-winning actresses. She's like, well, here's your Emmy nomination. Like, walk to the park.

I still think she owes Taylor a sincere apology, but that's neither here nor there. Will Kim Kardashian win an Oscar in her lifetime? Absolutely. This does raise an interesting conversation because she said in the Kardashians that the Botox affects her way of giving emotion. And right now there's two clips of Van Hathaway crying

and it's her 20 years ago and her now crying. And you can tell that she doesn't have as much movement in her face while crying. Granted, it's two separate versions of crying, but like- And her Botox cry was amazing. These's two separate versions of crying, but like. And her Botox cry was amazing. These are two side by side still pictures. Yeah, videos.

Videos, yeah. Videos? Yeah, I don't like that either. Maybe the videos, but I hate. I don't like that. I don't like comparing the age. I hate still. I don't either, yeah.

But still photos are so misleading and if you're getting a snapshot of a moment, you can find the most attractive person in the world, put them on TV and take a picture of them on TV and they can look like the ugliest people in the world. Like mid facial expression or something like that. Something about their mouth looking funny. And it's just like, I know this,

well I'm not calling myself good looking, but when I was on The Bachelorette, people used to do this all the time, and I'm like, I am hideous. I am the most disgusting person in the world because people would just be like screenshotting like their TV screen. They're like zooming in on the background.

And I would always be this unfortunate face I was making because apparently I make a lot of them. Reality TV specifically does this. That's why in the Bravo spirit, your second season is always the Botox season because you see yourself the first season and you don't like how you look from random angles, so you fix it.

Or that's why on the tell-alls or the reunions. They look different? Not, yeah, they just look- Snatched. They look like they've been in Hollywood. I'm not saying not everyone's getting Botox, but maybe it's just like a little bit more aware. Like I remember, well, on season one,

I just drank a lot of red wine. So in every scene I had like stained red teeth. George Washington, wood teeth. Literally. So you're washing it back. Well, I'm never gonna do that again. I'll then whiten my teeth. You know, you just, you get like little notes

about like how you look on camera because you don't know any of this shit the first time you do it. Well, that's what's unfortunate too is that people get work done for on camera and then it's jarring in person. Off camera. Yeah.

Have you guys heard the term eyebrow blindness? Yeah. That's a big thing right now, right? It's a big thing right now where people are looking back at old photos of themselves, where their eyebrows are either incredibly big or very thin. Because in 2009, you had the pencil thin. Then in 2014, you had the blocky, not even blended.

And then now you have natural look. So the concept is now they're looking back and being like, oof. I think it's gonna be an everything blindness. Yeah, it is, yeah. I was like, I have ex-boyfriend blindness. Does that count? When I look back and I go, oof, I have bangs blindness. Bang was like, I have ex-boyfriend blindness. Does that count? Yeah. Where I look back and I go, oof.

I have bangs blindness. Shoulda listened. Bangs blindness, I've seen that one. Everyone has ex-blindness. Yeah. I'm like, why did I fight for that? I have outfit blindness. Nope.

Like that wasn't me. Oh, yeah. I don't know who that bitch was, that was not me. You were experimenting. No, I was held at gunpoint to wear that outfit. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

So on my first day of high school, I wore just all green. Including my outfit. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. So on my first day of high school, I wore just all green. Including my shoes. Oh. That I designed myself on allstar.com. That's kind of cool. Color blocking. Nope.

Okay. What was the most expensive thing you spent at the grocery store? You know is too expensive, but you buy it anyway at a grocery store? Anything at Arowan. True. Literally anything. True.

Yeah. Nick, it's $20 orange juice at Whole Foods. You do. And then you bring it here and it has like three sips out of it. This is not about calling me out. It does look good. She asked a question. It's great.

No, it is the best orange juice ever. It's definitely like, it's $20. It's inflation, it's not me. No, I agree, but I'm saying like, you know how when you eat something or something's really expensive, but it's better have gold in it, you know, it's so expensive, like that orange juice

definitely has gold in it. It is good orange juice. It's fresh squeezed. Well, so a man tried to reorder groceries from a 2022 purchase. So you know how on apps, Like Instapart or whatever. Yeah, you can reorder a purchase. So you know how on apps, on food apps, yeah, you can reorder a purchase.

So he decided to reorder a purchase that he made in 2022. He had 45 items in his cart. In 2022, his receipt was $126. He reordered it and his receipt was $414. Scam. It's crazy. No, and I love to Instacart because I hate going to the grocery store. And I will say that I'll be like,

I put like 18 items in my cart. How is it this much? Where I'm like back in 2022 when I was doing it, I was like, 35, 40 items and under budget. No, everything is crazy. Like when I lived in Georgia, I used to eat Chick-fil-A probably. Too much.

Every day. It was sickening. But it was like $6.72 for 12 count chicken nuggets, a large fry and a sweet tea, okay? Now when I order it, you got all these extra fines. It'll be close to $40 for one meal. Do you think that's LA specifically though? Cause when I moved here, it was like NorCal,

groceries are at least like a dollar cheaper per item than in LA. That's wild. Maybe. The real problem is the cost of food being four times higher than two years ago. Like four times in two years. That's the type of inflation that happens

over like 20 or 30 years, you would think. Not two. Like how much are a carton of eggs? Like it's like seven, eight dollars. Eight dollars? It used to be 99 cents. Well, it depends which store you're at. Cause if you're at Ralph's, it's like,

it could be like $9 and then at Trader Joe's, it's like five. When I was little, eggs are the food that people bought if they didn't have money. But now it's like, you can't afford eggs. Milk too. Yeah. No, it's like you can't afford eggs. Milk too. Yeah. No, it's fucking crazy.

Sickman capitalism. In reality TV land, we've got Phaedra Parks negotiating her return to Real Housewives of Atlanta, Cynthia Bailey filming more and more. So this is following Kenya Moore being officially suspended from the show. When is she gonna be officially fired? Well, she is officially fired, technically.

Like she's not filming it. They're replacing her, so she's not like, she's suspended. No, no, no, no. And then Cynthia was already a friend of the show, so now she's just filming more to like, fill in. But then fans are basically like, if you get rid of one OG,

you need to bring back another OG. And that's potentially Phaedra. I mean, I love Phaedra on Traders, so. Yeah. Well, Phaedra's exit from the show was the candy drama. But now that candy's gone. But now that candy's gone, it's like she can come back, yeah. I mean, I love Phaedra on Traders, so... Yeah. Well, Phaedra's exit from the show was the candy drama. But now that candy's gone. But now that candy's gone, it's like she can come back, yeah.

And according to Lovebee Scott, who was the first to report the news, the current contract with Bravo's Married to Medicine is the biggest holdup. Well, just a little insider baseball when it comes to contracts, you would think that there wouldn't be a holdup because they're both on Bravo, like a Bravo network, but when it comes to how they make these shows, there's the production company and then there's the network. And most of the time, or maybe in my experience,

it's the contracts that the talent have are with the production companies. And so Bravo works with multiple production companies to produce all their shows. Different production companies produce, Vanderpump versus certain Housewives. I mean, some of the production companies, like I think Beverly Hills, Housewives, and Vanderpump,

at least they were the same at one point. Either way, like, so, Married to Medicine might be a different production company than Atlanta, and that's what my guess is, because the production companies have different interests in the networks at times. And both shows are both filmed in Atlanta. Yeah.

But they are two different productions. But I'm just regarding, like, the production company might be like, hey, well, we have Phaedra on Married to Medicine, and networks at times. And both shows are both filmed in Atlanta. Yeah. But they are two different countries. But I'm just regarding that, that production company might be like, hey, well we have Phaedra on Married to Medicine and it's a conflict of interest and she's our talent, not your talent. So they're probably going back and forth and negotiating.

I will say, Sierra, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anybody on Bravo has been on two shows at the same time. Not as a full-time member now. Not that I know of. Other than like a cameo. Yeah, not like a guest star or like, yeah, featured role, walking on whatever you wanna call it

for reality TV. I say bring her back. I agree. She was iconic on Traders. Oh, just you wait. Well, and then OC is starting back up, Real Housewives, and Alex Bellinio is saying that she's looking for engagement rings.

And this is, who's ex-wife, ex-husband? Shannon Bedor dated this man, I can't remember his name off the top of my head, last season. Obviously not together anymore. And then Alexis, before she was casted, was photographed with this guy. And so then that started headlines the next thing you know,

she's back on the show. And they're getting engaged? And they're getting engaged and they're getting engaged Yeah, this is the guy that She was like like the on-and-off again and like they were like dating and it was the whole storyline for her like last season Was like are you guys together? Are you not is he dangling you like what is he using you for and the next thing? You know, I think he also paid off her like legal situation. I don't know that fact when she got her DUI. So very heavily invested in Shannon's life.

The husbands are messy. Cause remember when we interviewed Whitney Rose, we had a texting office hours call in and it was like someone who was talking to one of the husbands while he was still with the person. So husbands in OC are messy. Yeah, who was the guy, was that who you were talking about

who owns like the fitness thing and he was dating? No, isn't that Tamra's? That's Tamra and Eddie, Eddie owns the gyms. Oh, Tamra, okay. But they shut down last season. They all shut down? Yeah, he had to close down his gym in Orange County. Oh.

Mm-hmm, so we'll see what's next for them this season. I'm excited to watch it. I love all the housewives franchises. So yeah, Orange County. Which one's your favorite? I mean, Beverly Hills for sure. And I miss like old housewives of New York. The old cast was like Luanne, Sonya. They were just wild.

I did see something recently that Sonya was like, she just sold her house, her townhouse, and she's moving, but she had koi fish in a pond. So like the movers came and she was like, can y'all like move this? And they looked at her like. The pond or the koi fish in a pond. So like the movers came and she was like, can y'all like move this? And they looked at her like. The pond or the koi fish? They looked at her like, we have boxes. She must not have chose roadway movers.

Oh, here we go. Because those roadway movers, as we see on Instagram, they be packing everything. They be doing it all. They bring your trash. I don't know, I've never used them. I just see influencers being like, they did everything. I sat here on my They'd be doing it all. They'd bring your trash. I don't know, I've never used them. I just see influencers being like, they did everything.

I sat here on my butt and they did it all. Thank you so much, Roadway. She'd have Sonia did not get Roadway. Will you be using them for your next move? If we ever move, I will be using Roadway. You will see a post of me being like, thank you very much, Roach. I did nothing.

When you do move and you use these moving companies, throw out your trash before they come. They'll move the trash. Because they will pack your trash and bring it with them. Well, they're not fucking around. I feel like that is- Everything really means everything.

Yes, I had Roach traps under my sink and they brought the Roach trap with the roach, dead roach inside to my new place. They transferred a roach infestation. Yes, and my mom was helping me unpack and she picked it up and all of a sudden I hear her yell and throw something across the room and she's like, what did I just touch?

And I look at it and I'm like, oh no. I can't with the roaches. And there was a dead roach inside. Remember when we had a cockroach infestation in our house? Ooh. We can't. This is the thing in LA. Like I've never experienced a cockroach infest

until moving here. It's a nightmare. It's a six month process. Like for two, we, you know, like also just clean your kitchen after dinner. Yeah, always. Do not, we, you know, before we had a child and we were just adult children,

we would make dinner and we'd be like, fuck it, let's just watch some TV. And we'd let dinner kinda like sit out on the stove and we're just like, we'd binge and I fuck it, I'll just clean it in the morning. I did that for like, I don't know how long. Well, that's how you get cockroaches because it just takes one and they eat on food and shit.

They're big too. No, they weren't big. They were the small ones. Oh, you're lucky. That's even worse. Yeah. And yeah, we- We also leave our back,

we have like a big sliding back door. Do you have a screen? No, it's like a big pocket. Like it goes into the wall and Nick leaves every door open in the house. And it was like, please cockroaches, join in. Come on in, you wanna stay for dinner? Come on, we'll save you some leftovers.

Every two weeks we had to like have a staycation. Absolutely not. And we lived out of boxes for like six months because you have to pack up everything. It would fucking suck. I had to vacuum up a big roach the other day. And I kid you not, it was like this big. I picked up something under the sink

and it ran out across my hand. I threw it and I was like, We had German cockroaches. No. What's a German cockroach? The skinnest of all ones. We're gonna speak German. Yeah.

No. Yeah, we're disgusting people. Well, I'm glad you don't deal with that problem anymore. Now we're clean people. Yeah, now we clean right after dinner all the time. Do you think they get roaches at the Love Island Villa? I don't know, I feel like the food they have there is kind of like shit.

I have a question. What is the temperature? Because it's Fiji. It's actually kind of cold. Let me check. Because they're wearing jackets all the time. They're wearing jackets, yeah. They're wearing long sleeves and they're not sweating.

But then they also look shiny, so they are sweating at some points. I went last summer during the day, it's nice, but at night it actually gets really cold, because I don't know if it's just because it's surrounded by ocean, whatever it is. So you got to go to the villa? I did get to go to the villa.

And it's- Her best friend was the host. It was fucking crazy. No, I know it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. But yeah, no, it's cold at night, very cold. And they're up filming those, what are the, fire pit? They're like coupling up.

When they couple up, like that stuff's happening at like midnight to two in the morning. And it's still light? Oh no, it's dark. It's dark out, it's dark and it's cold. Yeah, a lot of them are wearing jackets and I'm like, you're in Fiji. I think a lot of people,

because myself included, think that Fiji is Bally or a different climate, and it's not a climate that you're used to. I just feel like a lot is very inaccessible. I thought when I went to Fiji that, like, everywhere I would go would be, like, a smoothie stop and, like, fresh fruit, and it's not like that. It's 72 degrees there right now.

Yeah. So what's the loafer tonight? And it's 19 hours ahead. Um, 68. So. Like, right now. But it's going to be in the 80s. Right now, Erin and Kahler could be fighting or making up.

It's like, right, they're at the villa right now. That's what I love about it. It's fucking real time. What are they doing right now? Who's crying? Who's making who breakfast? What's the avocado toast taste like? Right now, it's Thursday, 4 a.m. They're sleeping. They're sleeping.

Or they're not, cause like, They just finished filming. They wake them up at like whatever time and they don't know what time it is ever. I think they usually wake them up during the day. It's like seven. But when the sun comes up, I think it's pretty early though.

I don't think it's four in the morning. What's sunrise in Fiji? The sun is not up yet. The sun will be up at seven a.m. I'm sure they get an eight hours of sleep. I don't think they could. Yeah, it's gonna be a cloudy day for them. Listen, the man who narrates Love Island is like.

Ian Sterling. He's like after eight hours. What does Ian Sterling look like? I'll tell you, you might be surprised. Yeah, actually, he's just like a little comedian guy. Some of his stuff is funny. Oh wow. That's who it is.

Yeah, it's not who he is. I was expecting like an old Brit. I think he's Irish. That's who it is. That's him. He is, I think he is Irish. He's so funny though. Can we get him on?

He's going on tour. Let's get him on. He also narrates UK as well. Yeah. Yeah, he's booked. Booked and busy. You know? Interesting. Wow. But yeah, no, they don't know what time. I think and busy. You know? Interesting. Wow.

But yeah, no, they don't know what time, I think it's like seven or eight a.m. and that's why a lot of the times they would wear sunglasses when they would be woken up because if they didn't go to bed till late, it's just like curtains up and you're up and going because you know, it's not a lot of people nap and when they do, they like kind of call it out.

Yeah. Have you guys noticed the clickety-clackety sounds of their nails while filming? Yeah. The random B-roll. I really haven't. Christina Applegate called us out and she said, I have beef with the producers.

Can you please stop making weird sounds with your water bottles, like holding straws in your mouth and chewing and not sipping? Or girls with long nails making clickety-clackety sounds? They do this. Why do this? But also, why does that bother her? I don't know. Like anytime I have a straw, like I'm fucking with it.

It's like, it's chewed up to pieces. It's constantly in my mouth. Like it's just. It's something to do with your hands too. Yeah, it's like, I don't. And she also like called them out. She also tweeted further on their hygiene and she said,

white deodorant on the armpits and the heat is gross. Now you all are very detractive people. Please use clear deodorant. The white pus looking shit in the folds is no bueno. This is just me helping you be the best version of you. Like, thank God they're fucking wearing anything. I haven't noticed the deodorant. She's been an actor her whole life.

She's had a stylist and a grooming team and all these things, all these accommodations that reality TV stars are not afforded. Again, for the majority of these, other than Rob, this is, well, I can't speak, maybe there's some other people who have done some TV appearances. But for the vast majority of these people, it's their first time on TV.

And again, you're not gonna know how you look or all these little, I guess, tips and tricks about being on TV and how your makeup looks. All these people are just coming to, all the ladies are doing their makeup how they normally do the makeup without necessarily the experience of how that looks on camera with certain lighting.

Christina Applegate has had a whole lighting team when she's on set to make her look her best. And then they do what, 50 scenes or whatever of whatever scene and they'll pick the scene where she, again, looks the best. It's like, I don't know if three ITV stars were afforded this type of accommodations. In fact, quite the opposite.

Usually it's just like, oh, armpit stain. Definitely show that shit. Use that shit. But the water bottles and then the tapping can be distracting, I suppose. I do notice it. It doesn't necessarily bother me, but I do notice that whenever they're talking,

they're always just like. It's a fidgeting thing. ASMR, yeah. There was a clip in one of the recent episodes where it was Leah and Miguel. They were hugging and could hear their heartbeat through the mics. So those mics are like-

You can always hear their movements. Their mics are picking up everything. Well, yeah, because you wanna hear those when all those people are like, all right, okay, we gotta go and talk to you. As if it can still hear you. Can they take off their mics? No, right?

They can to sleep, but if they start talking in the morning or something, a producer will come over the God mic and be like, you gotta say that again and put your mic back on. Yeah, and probably when they go to the bathroom. Kendall and Nicole like holding their mics in the hot tub when they're in the hot tub. Yeah.

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checkout. What's up Kazzie. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Um, no, it's like, I watched so much love Island, so it's good to be able to actually do something with it. It really goes to nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. Every once in a while while I'll get a random text from Kazzie, even when she's like deep into a show and being like, I need to come on and get it off my chest. And so we are always happy to be the show to help Kazzie facilitate her reality TV. It's like sports commentary. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Thank you.

But for something even more stupid. All right, Kazzie, you were like, I have so many things to say. So the floor is yours. Why don't you kick off this conversation then we'll get into all the mess that is Love Island. I couldn't possibly pick off the conversation. That's way too much pressure.

Oh, sorry, yeah, you're right. I probably shouldn't do that. What did you think of Movie Night? I was surprised by Movie Night. First of all, I didn't like that they didn't have the names in the titles of the movies this time. Oh. They kept it vague, yeah.

Yeah, they kept it super vague. And I like when they kind of target who they wanna see the clip of. It was almost misleading this time because they made it super vague. And I like when they kind of target who they want to see the clip of. It was almost misleading this time because they made it seem like one clip was going to be like anti-Rob and it ended up being anti-Leah. Which I think really upset a lot of people it seemed like. Yeah, I mean, we could start with Rob.

Let's start with Rob. Let's go. Do you like him or do you hate him? Do you know what? I really like him as a character. I don't know how I feel about him as a person quite yet. I'm actually been surprised by the advice he's been giving Aaron.

I feel like it's very good advice. And it's interesting considering how he did talk to Leah that one time. Yeah. I am, I know we're all upset about what Leah said in that moment, but the crying, whether it was intended to be manipulative or not, was super manipulative. She was hurt, and then he keeps being like,

you're making it about yourself, you can't, you can only make it about yourself while he's making the entire thing about himself when it really should have been about her. So I'm kind of on her side with that. I'm actually completely on her side. I thought Rob was kind of being a little bit of a bitch about it.

It's just like, Leah was upset. You just broke up with her, you ended the relationship. Yeah, she went off. That's literally her job. And he's just acting all hurt over it. And listen, if you're hurt, you're hurt. Don't be like, listen, it's cool, it's fine. But, and then you go on this whole montage

of why he's just like so just beside himself and he just can't get over it. It's just like, she didn't even say anything that bad and he just played the whole victim. It was just kind of nauseous. Totally, and she has so much remorse. She really does seem like a good person. I don't think she, you know, she can admit when she's wrong.

Yes. Which, you know, not a lot of people on this show can sometimes. I actually do really like all of the girls on the show. I think they're all great. But yeah, I found that really upsetting and that they keep blaming her for this moment when it was so... he so gaslit her in a crazy way, whether he intended to or not. And the whole thing really upset me. But now he seems like he's kind of evolving or he's able to talk to Aaron the way

he should have really been talking to himself in that situation. So I find that interesting. Yeah, totally. Nellie and I were watching it last night. I'm like, wait, this is shockingly solid advice. You know, he was trying to be the friend to Erin and not like coming at him, but kind of being like,

hey man, like if you really put yourself in her shoes, she's not totally wrong. You know, and he found that middle ground. I'm like, that's- Yeah, and he's like, you have to validate the fact that she's been hurt. It's like, why can't you do that? Yeah.

Yeah, because you can't do teach. Yeah. What do you think of Rob's style? I mean, again, he's such a character. Like he's just really like a brooding cartoon, you know? Yeah. No, he is amazing television. I don't know how much I'm paying attention to his style.

The insects, like this spot, which I feel like that's definitely Cordell's diamond spider necklace. But then there's a snake belt buckle and like he really plays into his part. He's connected, he's like into the bit. Shirtless over like. The move of putting the bugs on these women,

like as his like pick up line and that they all are so desperate to impress and that they're like, I don't know about this, and then they do it. It's like, none of you want to be doing that. None of you want to do that shit. No one's cool with that. He's like, why don't you put it in your mouth?

And they're like, okay, sure. I'll do that, I'm a little hungry, I guess. They're like, he's cute actually, the bug. Yeah, I love him. You cannot deny Rob's game. Like he's got great game, which is basically to stand there, look quiet, aloof, and say nothing,

act like you hate all the women, and eventually just put a bug on their forehead and they seem to fall in love. It's quite shocking. It's that easy. What I will say about this season, why I think it's so good and better than most Love Island seasons that I've seen,

is that really nobody is like trying to start drama. Like nobody's saying something and then is that really nobody is trying to start drama. Nobody's saying something and then going to repeat it to try and start drama. There's just genuinely so much drama that comes from a real authentic place. They just keep getting themselves into actual drama. That's actually a great point. This is my first time watching Love Island,

but just reality TV in general. This is a group of people, especially the OG cast, you can tell they're close. They really care about each other. So there's actually, it's the opposite. You see the sincerity, but to your point, Kazzie, the drama's happening and they can't help but fight about the things that are really triggering to them

and it's just so fucking good. It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's why I love the show so much, because there's like, you can tell there's real feelings involved and it's not put on. Especially when you're enclosed in that kind of environment for such a long time, of course you develop like real, you know, emotions for these people.

Nali asked me last night if she thought, if I, she asked me if I thought if Kailer and Taylor, Aaron and Kailer would make it. And I said, I hope not. Cause I'm kind of getting over them. And then she asked me about Serena and Cordell. And I think they won't make it, but I hope they would. Like I really want, I think they're so cute,

but ultimately as much as like I want them to be together, I think in the real world, Serena would eventually just be like, this is not my guy. Like he's just too much of a boy, you know? And he's a sweet and genuine boy. I disagree what you said about Cordell being a boy. I think he's young for sure, but at this rate, I think like as he gets older,

he's gonna be a really mature young man. I mean, the way he's handled all of this stuff, even his like, you know, his fuck up, and I totally get the disrespect of it all and why she's so upset. I really root for them hard. Like they were my favorite. And when he got into CASA, I was like devastated.

I love them so much. But I do think the, I really didn't like her throwing the plate on him. I thought that was very, I thought that was mean and kind of humiliating. Yeah, for sure. She definitely should apologize for it,

but like he brought two breakfasts in. It's just like, she was gonna be mad. I think it's all about intention though. Like, you know he's a decent guy. Like, you know he's coming from a place where he really means well. I really trust that he's a good person. Aaron, I think Cordell and Aaron going into CASA

were two different things, even though they both fucked up. Aaron didn't try at all. Like, he didn't even attempt to, like, be... to not hurt Kayla, you know? And it wasn't like, Cordell where it was like this girl, again, whether she intended to manipulate him or not, really went for, you know, I'm gonna treat you right, she didn't treat you right.

And that can be very manipulative. And he's then thinking, maybe, you know, I should be treated like this. Yeah, I deserve this, you know, this is something I've been missing for sure, 100%. Yeah. Daniela, I don't even recall going for Erin that hard. I think, I feel like he just pursued her super hard.

I feel like Rob told Erin or Danielle to go for it. Like I don't believe in producer plans, but there are definitely producer pets. And Rob is definitely a producer pet. Like you can tell he knows how the game works. And I feel like he's definitely willing to have conversations that will like lead to drama and it seems pretty obvious to me. It definitely seemed like, I don't know how Danielle and Aaron got paired up, but it just

kind of felt like people were being pushed maybe in a direction because then there was the flip-flop, I don't know. That was really bad. The Aaron stuff is bad. Yeah. It's really bad. And it just keeps getting worse. For us to find out what we heard from Sydney, the whole, oh sorry, I thought this was Kayla.

And then the shout, him being like, the shower comment, it was a joke, it was a joke, and then they play it movie night. That was not a joke. Well now he's telling Kayla that he loves her. Oh, but they both are. Yeah. Cordell and Aaron are both like,

by the way, I love you. Cordell did it a little different. Cordell was more like, I'm feeling these feelings of love. And maybe it was the same intent, but Aaron was basically like, I know you're mad, but I love you. So, and it was his get out of jail free card.

Aaron's a child. Aaron's a child. Yeah. He is a 15 year old boy. He's like, I don't know how to make you not be mad at me. So I love you. Maybe. Yeah. Does that work? Yeah.. He's like, I don't know how to make you not be mad at me. So I love you. Maybe.

Yeah, does that work? Yeah, and he's like stomping off, like he's just not getting his way. For me, it's the movie night where Kayla is clearly upset from the handshake, all of these things. And he just sits there, just stone-faced eating popcorn, acting like, you shouldn't be bothered by this. We've already talked about that.

Rob gets the tiniest bit of heat and he is ready to jump and fight any of these girls that will talk to Rob about that. Oh yeah, Rob gave like a 15 minute performance on why he was so hurt and the Kailer-Erin drama was just like a 30 second conversation because like- Because he was like, it was just a lock, it was just a pinky promise lock,

that's all that was the same. He downplays everything. I do find there's some kind of inter, like it's either some deep internal shame that is making him kind of just really close off to the idea of him hurting someone or doing anything wrong. I think he just, he can't handle the fact

that he did something wrong. I mean, it's such a front. Cause you can see him stewing as he's eating this popcorn. Yeah. And then he made a comment at the beginning of the episode to Rob where he said, she either needs to drop it or drop me.

I was just like, ew. It's so ridiculous. It is very gaslighty. It's just as soon as he, it seems like the thing all the men do, it's like as soon as they're getting lectured or scolded, they have about like a 30 second attention span and they're finally like, I can't do this anymore.

I can't believe, I'm so upset they start crying as if they're just being tortured. No one's told you no before or that you did something wrong. They either cry or say I love you and just hope that it'll all be better. And by the way, if you just hang in there for one more day, they'll drop it.

Like just hang on a little bit longer. Yeah. What did you think of the day us switch up the, no, I need to talk to you. Well, no, no, no, no, I was gonna pull you. I was so, I was pretty cringed out by that, I have to say. It's like, we see the reality of the situation. You're not the one who did it first.

So just fucking go with it. You have to take the L like this is what's up. We're watching it. Who's buying it? Whether he's, she's like shutting him up at the first word. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, please let me. Yeah, no, it's just that I'm moving on. If you actually make the decision first

to protect yourself, that's a different story. But like you did not make the decision first. No. And then she goes to Serena and she's like, well, someone must have tipped him off because now he's trying to talk to me first. It's like nobody's buying that at all. And then her going to Serena being like, he's yours.

He's disrespectful as fuck. He's, yeah. Like you were the one saying that acting like that was immature and now you've totally, yeah, you're totally doing it. But that's what makes Serena so badass is because she didn't even play into it. But that's what makes Serena so badass is because she didn't even play into it.

She kind of just lied there and she was like, okay. She almost made Deya think that she was on her side, but she could have easily got into it with her. Serena could have been like, no, you didn't. I know what you did. Don't try to do this. But she's like, fuck it. You're about to go home.

And so she just let her just kind of do her thing. No, Serena's amazing. She's my favorite character. And from the first episode, I was like, oh, these two, they look just so gorgeous together. Like they really just feel like they're meant to be in somewhat, in a love island way, at least. Well, yeah, they're inside jokes, they're laugh.

They're great. They're so great. When Cordell was hanging with Deya, it was just like, I don't care about this. They were just like making out. Yeah. It's like. Nothing, there was no laughing. As I said, she really just,

she was able to say the things he needed to hear in order to do that. And, you know, like, we all saw before he went into CASA that Serena was like, you know, I'm starting to like you. But before that, I didn't know how much they had actually progressed. Like I felt like still, you know, she had left him on the dance floor,

which was just really sad. Yeah. He handled it so well. And then I don't remember them actually, like I remember her turning a little bit, she was like, I'm starting to get there, but I don't remember her actually being like, I like you and only you, and I, you know, I don't know.

Like when he went into Casa, what was, how did you feel like they had left off? It seemed like they left off pretty strong, and Serena kinda said that it almost seemed like that was their best day or best night ever and then all of a sudden, of course, Casa Amor happens the next day, but they seem to be on pretty good terms.

But to your point, it was only one day and Cardell definitely had way more of a reason to test a relationship as opposed to Aaron and Kahler where it's just like, bro, he like talked his like right of testing the relationship into existence as if it was like, it's his birthright to like, before I commit to this relationship. His rum springing?

Yeah, I need to like have sex with someone else before I can actually know that I like this person. It's like, wait. It didn't even feel like he was that tempted. It just felt like he was doing it to do it. Yeah. For no reason at all. It was like, I'm here, this girl's hot.

She's down to make out. Like, let's just, I'll make out with her. It's not like it was this, like his dream woman who came in and like said everything he needed to hear. It just didn't, it was like, there was no, there was really no reason for him to do it at all. And then for him to push her and Rob, like knowing she would be in the house with Kayla,

knowing Kayla would have to, it felt so weird. Rob could have just as easily gone to Erin, because like Rob's clearly the big brother. And he could have been like, hey man, like now that you know you're with your girl, like would you mind, I had my eye on her, I wanted to like give give you your moment, but if you're cool with it,

I wanna go have a chat with her. That's how it should've played out. I would've been a lot less weird for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then Rob could've been like, hey, this is on me, I brought her in because I'm interested only to find out

that Aaron pitched it. That's the thing, there's another movie night and they're gonna show more Aaron and Kahler, but I don't think they could show all the little things, like that, just the fact that he pitched her on it. I feel like they might. I hope so, because I feel like- When we were watching it, he was just like,

you should go for Rob, and I'm like, they're gonna probably show those clips being like- I want them to show the breakup scene where he almost kisses her after breaking up with her. And then we heard, we heard. Oh my God. What the fuck. That's what I wanna see.

That's crazy. I think that's all in the same conversation and it was one of the tweets, remember, from the game. So I'm like, they'll for sure play it. I wonder if they're gonna play the thing that Sydney told us about where basically they are in bed and he was like, his hands were going down south and said her name and called her Kaylor there too.

I feel like they don't have that on because they were like in bed. There was probably like in the middle of the night, she probably like whispered it in her ear. Like I definitely don't think that they have the footage of that, but they do have the footage of Daniela being like, he was like all kissing me all down here.

And then her saying, I'm surprised they didn't show when she was talking to Kendall, they showed like the beginning of that conversation, but not her being like, he's saying he wants to respect Kayla, but his actions say different. Like why didn't they show Daniela saying that? Maybe because it was all about Kendall being the fucking white man, I guess, I don't know.

Now that I'm thinking about it, you know what's kind of fucked, like why, instead of showing the conversation that Rob had with Liv and Kayla, why didn't they just show how those women came to decision to say- Why aren't they showing that moment? They actually showed it. Like- Because I wanna know.

Yeah, well, like let us decide for ourselves who did what and let them decide. The actual footage. Cause I wanna know. Yeah, let us decide for ourselves who did what and let them decide. Let them decide. Yeah. I mean, I remember it. She did say something where I was like, oh, like, you know, this is a little bit too far. Like you should be taking maybe a little bit more

of a backseat, but you didn't take more of a backseat. Like nobody else, you know, everyone had a say in that obviously. Yeah, and that was just like a sound bite. Like they just chose to air Leah saying that and they didn't show what all the other women said. So like they all, to Leah's point, all could have mentioned that.

They just kind of made it seem like- And I don't think Leah- I wanna see that. I don't think Leah ever like outright lied. I think she definitely like messed with the truth a little bit in order to like sway Rob's opinion of her obviously at that moment. But I don't like that they keep saying like,

she's a liar, she lies about everything. Like she didn't actually like say an outright lie. I also, and like, correct me if y'all heard wrong, but I'm pretty sure she said to Rob, I never talked bad about you to Andrea. And then he made it, she said she never talked bad about you to Andrea. And then he made it, she said she never talked bad about me. Or Andrea, which isn't like what happened at all. It's not what she said.

Yeah, I feel like that. And then for them to show her going in on Rob, it's him being like, well, you're a liar because you told me you never talked shit about me. And it's like, I'm pretty sure he said that. They should be vindicating her in that movie night rather than kind of, yeah. the most annoying part about movie night is that it felt all misdirected.

And I know that it's not over and that we'll see more of it in the next episode, but it felt very directed at like Leah and Liv and the girls and like, I wanna see the boys fucking up more. But they kept losing the surveys. I know. The videos kept playing of the girls. But it's the categories too, but I'm also like,

even Kendall's was probably the worst out of any of the guys, but the same way that we were talking about earlier, where it was like Rob's was the devil in overall. So you're like, great, we're gonna see Rob be exposed. And then it was like, nope, Leah, you're the bad person. And it was like, wait, what? Yeah, another thing I love about the show is just like the character arcs, you're the bad person. And it was like, wait, what? Yeah, another thing I love about the show is just like the character arcs,

because especially you don't know them early on, you know who these people are, you jump to like first impressions. But Leah has like proven to be not as like manipulative. Like at first you're like, who's this girl? Is she kind of a mean girl? But like the more we see her, she's one of the realest people.

Like Cassie said, she can admit when she's wrong. Sure, she's messy, she's dramatic, she owns that, but she doesn't come across as that petty or that catty. And like, yeah, it's just- And she also has a really good sense of humor. Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't take herself that seriously. She can totally laugh at herself, yeah.

Did you also feel like they did her a little dirty in the Twitter competition? They did everyone dirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that was way too harsh, especially considering the history of Love Island and these emotional issues afterwards. I don't know, I felt like they went a little bit too hard on everyone with that.

Yeah, I honestly don't really love the whole Twitter game. I don't love that they bring internet bullying into the villa. Yeah, it's wrong, it's wrong. And then the day I won, it seems like that wasn't even real. That was bullshit. It's certainly not verified.

And like, it's- But don't you think Love Island would have made sure that she did comment on OBJ's post before like putting that into the universe? And even a comment, what does that really mean? It was super vague. And obviously it had its intended purpose which is to like create doubt and I don't know. But Daya did have like a story.

She's like, well my ex went to dinner with him and posted a photo. I was thinking like if that's a fake story, that's a great fake story. Yeah. But she's. Did a really good job with that. I bought her story which is one of those things

where you get accused of something that you don't remember doing, and you're thinking, well, I mean, kinda like, did I? And she, I don't think she, yeah, to your point, I don't think she made it up, like her ex or something, so there was a connection. So then she's thinking, well, maybe I did.

But it doesn't sound like she, they made it seem like she was like Jersey hopping and like sliding into his DMs and like she was basically taking the leftover brother instead. That is not, it doesn't seem like that was what was happening and I think it's just kind of fucked. I do think if they're gonna do this Twitter challenge,

the tweets need to be things that like, that feel true or like are a strong, good opinion about a couple. It can't be just a random ass tweet from a random person with a bad opinion. Yeah. Like I think the one about poor Kayla, she doesn't even know the worst of it. I think that was a good example of,

because it's like, well, what's the worst of it? And it's not like, Kayla's a piece of shit, she should, you know, it's not. Yeah, and it's true. There is, there is worse that he hasn't seen. Yeah. So much worse. Did Kendall annoy you this last episode

as much as he annoyed me? You know, I kind of, I find him, I find him kind of inoffensive to me. Like he's a little annoying, sure, but he's fine enough. And sometimes I'll even just like fast forward through and never see him. Yeah, I kind of feel-

If anything, like that's how much I don't care. Well, that's the thing, I just, and I feel bad, but I really don't care about Kendall and Nicole. Yeah, yeah, me neither. Well, I also feel like on every, like they do this on UK, Australia, all the Love Island shows. There's always at Casa Amor, the one guy who is like, I'm in the strong relationship and I'm gonna egg on

all of my friends to fuck shit up in their relationship. And I'm gonna come out looking clean. And then they look, they don't look clean because they look like an asshole telling all their friends to like, do it. And I'm saying, learn. He's like, I can't, but you should. Also, why does everyone in the villa think

Kendall's good at giving advice? He seems to give the worst fucking advice, which is basically like, you deserve this, go do this shit, don't worry about the consequences, man. It's just like, huh? And I did not like when he was talking to Serena. Yeah, that was kind of weird when he got up in her face. Yeah.

But I, he do think he's harmless. Yeah, he's harmless. He's like a 6'1' Carlton. Yeah, that one time I was like, whoa, when he like did something to Rob during the challenge. And then afterwards, when he was apologizing to Rob, it was like, whoa, he's so scared of Rob. Like, he like thinks Rob's like unstable.

He's scared, like that's the level of scared he is of Rob when he was apologizing to him. Does anyone remember that? Yeah, I do. When he said he lied or was untrustworthy. He was like, that was so fucked up, man. Like, I can't even believe I did that. Like, I'm so, so sorry.

Like, that was really silly. Yeah, especially since they all had to pick someone. No matter what, they all had to, yeah, you're the person who does this. Everyone did that to someone else, and Kendall was the only one who had to profusely apologize to Rob. Rob is not dumb at all. He definitely plays this aloof kind of membo,

but like he is, he knows what he's doing. Like he's, he's good at manipulating, honestly. Yeah. And rolling his eyes. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I wonder what else we're going to see in movie night. It felt like there wasn't, I really hope there's not going to be more of Cordell

because I feel like he's gotten it really rough and I just want to see them make it is not gonna be more of Cordell because I feel like he's gotten it really rough and I just wanna see them make it and they're getting so close to being past it that it would just really be a bummer to have that be wrecked. I want the show to do what they can to preserve that relationship

and I want them to do whatever they can to break up Kailer and Erin. What is it that she keeps saying? She's like, fuck Erin! That was so good. That's a good impersonation. And then you just see Erin's face, like he just makes this face the whole time. Yeah, what's that, stupid thing, or you see his?

I got a picture. That's good, yeah. Well, did you see for the previews for next week that he's gonna like pull a colt and like take off his mic Storm out of the villa. So Mike I can't take the heat. He really can't take the heat. Yeah, I'm really over him I actually am too. I think he he has a good heart and deep down is a good person I don't know it does seem like Rob and Aaron are kind of like the the Tom and Tom of Love Island universe like Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz like the Tom and Tom of Love Island universe,

like Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz. The way Aaron came after the women in Rob's defense was unbelievable. Where was this coming from? Where is that energy in your relationship? And that's when Serena or somebody was like, Rob's a grown man, he can speak for himself. And then that's when Rob did his like monologue,

but like you're over here being shown kissing other women. Your girlfriend is clearly very upset and you can't say a word, one word against Rob. And he's like, that's my best friend. And if my best friend's upset, it's like, why are you here? The only person Aaron truly loves is Rob. Is Rob. Yeah, he dies for Rob.

He dies. He definitely dies for Rob. If Rob left with Andrea, I for Rob. He dies. He dies for Rob. If Rob left with Andrea, I have kind of a feeling Aaron would have left too. He would have been like, that's my guy. Sorry, Kailer. Did you guys ever for one second think Rob was gonna leave with Andrea?

No. No. This is the biggest performance ever. And now you've sent three people home. That's okay. That was really interesting because it had felt like they had never watched Love Island before and how those eliminations do work. It's like there's a history of people, of islanders, you know, eliminating someone,

one of the girls, and they never do it like that. They always do the girl that like doesn't have the connection. And I never really see them actually save their friend even, you know, if they don't have a connect, if they doesn't have the connection. I never really see them actually save their friend even, if they don't have a connection, if they haven't had a connection with me. It really proved to be an amazing decision, because no shade against Andrea, but the friendships of the main women

are carrying the show. The way they ride for each other, and just, it's the main group that we love, like and their connections. I also love Jenae and I'm so glad she didn't go home. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I love Jenae too. I love all the girls.

I did not like how Jenae handled the Kenny situation when she came home. It felt like she was almost like jealous of the other girls for getting to like be emotional hurt, and she wanted in. That was the level of dramatics. No, she's definitely a bit dramatic, but at the end of the day, I would wanna be good friends with Jaday.

No, she's hysterical and such a great, yeah. Why is Kenny dressing like he works at Staples or Best Buy? Like you're in Fiji. He's tucking in his khakis and wearing a belt. I don't understand. I do like them. Yeah.

I do too. He seems to really get her. I like that. You buy them. Yeah. I buy them for Love Island. Like I don't buy them like Serena and Cordell's connection. Like that's a real connection, I feel like.

I think these two have a connection for being in Love Island together, but maybe not on the outside. I did notice that the one prompt or whatever for movie night, there was only one that had a name and it was Leah's. And they haven't chose it yet. But all the others were like, I feel like she's hot enough.

Yeah, I feel like she's hot enough. I feel like Cordell's had enough. I feel bad for Liv, too. I feel like she's pretty underrated as a person on Love Island. Um, and she just, they have not... Like, usually they'll send someone in who's, like, perfect for them at a certain point,

when, like, there's a beloved person there. And they just, like, have not... They've just kind of done her dirty, I feel like. Do they send in more bombshells, or are we done with bombshells? There's two more coming in. There should be. They set it in aftersun yeah. Yeah I do feel like when she was you know she was like I don't even have high standards like no she does she actually doesn't at all you know. Yeah. She's been like so open she's really done everything she's supposed to. No she's great and. And also back to Serena, I think what makes her

and Cordell's relationship seem so authentic is she doesn't put on a show. She's not dramatic for the sake of drama. So when she sat there and listened to Cordell, had her sunglasses on, and she was pretty emotionless, and then he leaves and they show her that single tear dropping where she's trying to hide her emotions. It's like she doesn't wanna be dramatic,

but she cares so much about this situation and she feels so fucked up about it because she wants to forgive him, she knows it's a show, but she just feels so disrespected and rightfully so. You feel her pain and it's just like, I fucking love them. I feel like Cordell maybe didn't even know

how much Serena cared about him until this all happened. Like that's a strong possibility also. Yeah, no, I didn't. I was very surprised, I remember the first night of Kosta when she was like, I miss Cordell. I can't believe it. And I was like, oh my God, yes, she likes him. That was the first time I realized she liked him. She kept saying, like, I'm a slow burn,

I'm a slow burn, and Cordell and the rest of us were like, whatever, you're on Love Island, like, you're just making this shit up. I think we all took it as like her trying to nicely turn him down. But no, turns out she's just being honest and she's a slow fucking burn, and it takes her four days and not two hours

to fall in love in the villa. And like, yeah, she really cares about this guy. And I, why anyone, like it seemed like way too many people online were like blaming Serena for not being obsessed with Cordell right away. As if like you have to like jump their bones to prove your love. It makes no sense.

Yeah. I mean, it was actually the realest kind of, yeah. you know, way a relationship forms I've seen on the show. Yeah, kind of like, hey, I want to get to know you, you seem cool, but I don't know yet. Like we just started talking. Totally.

She's like extremely authentic to herself being on television versus playing up a role because you're on a show. Yes. Because I also like how when Rob and Leah were having that conversation by the fire pit and she was like, what we're not, and Liv and she was like, what we're not gonna do is gang up on somebody if we're gonna have a conversation,

we're gonna break it down and everybody say their sides. But I like that she's like very much like a girl's girl, but also just like true to herself. So it's like, it doesn't feel like put on or like trying to cause drama, she diffuses bombs versus activated. Totally. I also really like how with them,

a lot of people on Love Island, if there's not a spark, they're like, there's not really a spark. Like it's not gonna work. Like sometimes there's not an initial spark. And they never really follow that. They all think they're supposed to have this like insane chemistry from the jump with someone. Like sometimes that's not how the best relationships turn out

and there's not this like immediate spark. And I like that she's kind of showing how that spark can come later or whatever. How awkward was the conversation between Catherine and Kenny where he's like full on gonna break up with her. And she's like, I just have to say, like you make me so happy. I, like, am so, like, glad we're together.

And I just want to wear your heads out. And like, you're like, you love me. And like, let's just like be together. He's like, so I think we do have a great connection as friends. The worst is the way that she started it was she was like, how are you feeling? Well, let me tell you how I'm feeling first. Yeah. Who is your favorite of the new girls?

I think I might be forgetting someone, but I think I like how Sierra's handling her stuff. The Miguel stuff. Her connections, yeah. I like how she handled the Miguel. I'm into the maybe seeing her in Kane for a few days before they get eliminated you know, eliminated. I didn't think I'd love Miguel as much as I do.

I think he's the best guy on the show. I just hope he doesn't turn on Leah now after movie night. Right, I mean, watching him run to Casa was one of the fun, like I laughed out loud in his reaction going there. But he is the most man of these guys. Like a lot of these guys give a lot of young, immature boy energy and like yeah, like Miguel definitely fuck boy player or whatever,

but he keeps it real. He's just like, you know where, like these ladies are saying it over and over, but he is, he's just like, yeah, I wanna keep getting, I just met you, I just met you, like I'm here to date. And now he's, and then he went to, and he was just like, he was the first one to let the other girl know. We're all like, even Cordell's kind of like early on

with Deah just being like, uh, like, I still want to get to know you. It's like, no, you don't, you know? Like, I don't, I thought Deah was way overreacting in terms of like, you led me on or whatever. It's just like- You knew exactly what was happening. She was totally on board to be rejected at some point

if that was what was gonna happen. She just wanted it. She made him like think he was so comfortable to do whatever it is he wanted to explore. And it turned out like that's not the case. No, she thought she was gonna win. Yeah, I was about to say, I think she got embarrassed that he chose. Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Popped off. Ah. Who else is a new Casa girl? We have Catherine, Daniella, Dea, and Sierra. Are you guys buying Robin, Daniella at all? No. No. That is the one thing I will say about Andrea leaving

is that I'm glad Nicole stayed for Kendall. I'm glad Janaye stayed, I love Janae, but he has not found a connection close to as strong as he had with Andrea, whether that comes from a real place, I don't know, with Rob, but that is his strongest connection he's had so far for sure. How many women has Rob made out with in bed? It seems like a lot.

And they kinda just show it and gloss over it. Like. All of them. At least five. Everyone else is sleeping and Rob is making out with them. Like everyone else is like, yeah, I don't really know you. I know we're sharing a bed,

so I'm just gonna roll over. And Rob's kind of like, well, we're here. Also remember when Rob and Liv started something and then that just died? That is exactly what I wanted to talk about. I really wanted to see that go somewhere. Same. What happened to that?

He went to Casa. I don't know. He went to Casa. But even now that they're back, she's no longer with Kane. Like, can they start that up, like, a little bit? Like, he obviously, I think, liked to live actually more than Daniela. I agree.

I think maybe he has, you know maybe he has sexual chemistry with Daniela, but he was really starting to like Liv as a person. That's what the producers should do. They should have some sort of send off where they have the cast choose again and they should send Daniela home for the mess that she's a part of with Aaron. Once again, sending another woman home

that Rob is allegedly interested in. I don't, none of us think he is. And finally sending up the Liv and Rob kind of like, you know, home stretch. I feel like the producers, yeah, the producers already tried to set them up by sending home Cass and whoever, but then Casa happened.

And then Casa happened immediately after that. Yeah. I was like, oh, we were so close. Do you guys feel like there's like any one person's getting a more favorable edit than anyone else? Rob. Rob. Why? I mean, I think even at the movie night scene

when they showed all that stuff with Leah and then- But that was more anti Leah than more like pro Rob. Pro Rob. But then Rob had the floor to like say a whole speech and they kept the whole thing in. Yeah, I think you're right, actually. Making Leah look bad though is, you know, is making Rob look good.

It redeems his- That's what it is doing. Yeah, it redeems his most embarrassing scene. Mm-hmm, and it proves his point to where it's like giving him the floor to talk about it and being like, well, look at how she talked about you. You're calling out the fact that it's like, that's not actually what she said,

but for the rest of us, like watching that didn't catch that, even I was kind of like, oh wait, was Rob right? Like, you know what I mean? I feel a little gaslit as an audience member watching it. The producers are gaslighting Leah. Me at home. I will say though, like having watched so many seasons of The Bachelor, knowing how that works

and now watching Love Island USA, like the amount of editing that they're not doing is really refreshing. Like you can, I mean, they can't. Like just a quick turnaround time, they can only do so much. To me, like the good edit on Love Island is more based off of what they choose to show or not show,

which yeah, you can do that in Bachelor World or all these other like reality TV shows, but all the voiceovers and hearing people talk when you see other people doing things in Bachelor World, they can take things that people said like weeks earlier about something completely innocuous and make it seem like they're talking about this situation, completely changing the context

or how you feel about something. Oh, by the way, adding all this music. And it's just like, there's so much less editing and trying to carve a storyline in Love Island versus so many other shows. And I love it so much. If anything, I would give Love Island editors so much credit because I think they have like a two day,

like a 48 hour turnaround. And it's also like they have to go through that footage and it's almost like choose your own adventure with them because it's like they have to go with the storyline that pops out to them and also be able to be like, yeah, well, that's great, but that does nothing for the storyline, unseen bits or whatever else. No, they've done a great job.

What, Kazzie, what do you think of Deya asking Kendall for advice? Oh my God. And then Nicole coming and sitting on his lap and being like, can I just listen for a second? I'm really cold. I'm gonna bite your ear. She's like trying to ask for advice.

It's like, do you know what? I might've seen Nicole and then fast forwarded. I don't remember that. Because it was so fucking rude. It was, yeah, it was extremely awkward and rude. It was like, and then he's just, he doesn't give any advice because he's just like making out with Nicole and Deah's like,

and Deah like just turns around on the island. That's brutal. At a certain point, they need to send these girls home because it's going to be embarrassing that they're all just kind of there. And they're all just talking to each other. They're not even trying to talk to anyone. I saw a tweet, something about just a bunch of girls saying, exactly to each other.

All the Casa girls. All the Casa girls, yeah. That was one of the truest things I've seen. There's something about the fact that like it is live and knowing that like right now as we're talking about them, like there's some shit going on. They're like, what time is it in Fiji right now? It was like 5 a.m.

Well, I think 8 a.m. Or yeah, it was four before, let's see. Let's see what they're up to. I looked up the sleeping schedule. Oh, what is it? Don't ask why. 6 AM? They don't ever know what time it is on Love Island.

Yeah. And they'll turn on the lights to wake up at different times every day, like whatever time they went to sleep. Like if they put them to sleep at 3 AM, they'll make sure they have seven hours, but they don't know that they're going to sleep at 3 AM. Oh, that's crazy. That's kind of insane. Yeah. Well, that's crazy. That's insane. Well, it's 6 a.m. now.

You would go crazy. No, you would go crazy. But it's also just crazy to think that Kayla right now is in the middle of deciding what she should do with Erin, and we don't know what's going, it hasn't happened yet, and every other fucking show that we binge and watch, it's like, we're wondering what happens. Meanwhile, it's like- They're in a whole new relationship.

They're in a whole new relationship. It's 12 months later, like half of these people are engaged with someone else. And it makes it just that much more real. It's like true reality TV. I saw a tweet that was like, thinking about what my little Sims are doing. It's just like, it consumes my brain every day.

What were you gonna say, Kaz? No, I just was gonna say that it is, It consumes my brain every day. What were you gonna say, Kazzy? No, I just was gonna say that it is for me the best reality show on TV. Because it's so relatable where The Bachelor is not. Love Island, it's almost like social media where it's like you break up with someone or someone breaks up with you and you're forced to kind of watch them move on. And it's just like this very exaggerated version of like human life that feels super relatable.

You see a video of like people at like a party and it's like your man or your ex-man making out with a new girl. Yeah, you see a video on Instagram. And watching how people handle those situations is really fascinating. Yeah, yeah, Bachelor, you have like half the men pretending to not care that like, it's all, hey man, like it's your turn. Like you're a good guy. Like, yeah, go talk to her or

something. And it's all based off of that and the trauma dumping. Are you watching Bachelorette this season or have you given up on it? I don't know. I haven't decided yet. I mean, I have two seasons of Love Island right now. Like, I'm getting confused about the characters. How do you feel about UK? I had to pause UK because I... I mean, it's nothing compared to US right now. It's just not even close.

I put it on pause. But I kept watching UK and I was like, where's, you know, like, where's Miguel? And then I'd be like, did Miguel get sent home? Oh, no. I'm just getting really confused. So I had to stop UK for now. Do you think it's because of Peacock?

Do you think because when Peacock took over, they're like, we're better at making this reality TV than say CBS when they first started or who had it before? Yeah, CBS. It was on Hulu. It was streaming on Hulu before I think, but or at some point USA. I think this season of US in particular

is better than the previous ones. I watched all of them. And I think Arianna Maddux is doing an amazing job. Like she's doing great. Why aren't they using her more though? Is that just kind of how they use the hosts? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Like the way that when the recoupling and Erin went to sit beside her and she was like, no. Maybe you should switch. Maybe you should switch. And she like put Kayla beside the girls. Yeah, that was like, no. Maybe you should switch. Maybe you should switch. And she like put Kaylor beside the girls. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, cause you're a professional. You know what's going on.

Before we let you go, Kazzie, any other things you want to get into Love Island? Get off your chest. Get off your chest, vent. I don't know. I'm going to be disappointed at the next movie night and I have so many thoughts for you guys. I mean, just text me.

You're a Zoom call away. Come back. All right, well we'll see what happens. All right, Kazzie. Well, we appreciate you taking the time. Anything you welcome. You're a Zoom call away. Come back. All right, well, we'll see what happens. All right, Kazzie. Well, we appreciate you taking the time. Anything you want to plug, promote? Oh, no, certainly not. Absolutely not.

Nobody even follow me. No, yet, no. Don't follow me on Instagram, please. Don't even put my name on this. Okay. Okay. Always great. Thank you, guys.

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I think he's just promoting his new movie. What did he say? Because I read the article and it was pretty light, but he basically said that Jen Tran made some strong choices during her first night as the Bachelorette, except for sending home his fellow Canadian countryman, Brendan, from Vancouver. He says, Marcus is easy on the eyes,

Grant was a little much, and the day trading thing, but I get it. Yeah. That's pretty much all there. Those seem like real takes. Yeah. Maybe he watched. He watched.

I think he watched it. Will he continue? What is his new movie that he's, does it have something to do with? Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool 3, Deadpool, Wolverine. There was like a commercial during the... Yeah, just a little cross promo.

Trying to get those 18 to 43 aged women. I do think though he is a Bachelor fan. Did y'all see that people are comparing Sam M to look alike Juan Pablo? Ooh, that's a good call. Oh yeah. He looks like Juan Pablo. Wow. Fully. Yeah, do the a good call. Oh yeah. He looks like Juan Pablo. Fully.

Yeah, do the side by side. Wow. That's the same face. Wow. That's copy paste. That is the same person. It's the nose specifically. Juan Pablo's a little better looking.

Like we're getting a Walmart version. Sam is like rugged Juan Pablo. Like tattoos a little bit like. He's country. He's country. He's modern. And Juan Pablo's from Spain, right? No. He's not?

Venezuela or something? Venezuela. I know it's South America. He was the worst bachelor. Truly. Besitos, besitos, besitos. Is that what he said? He would be like, shh, besitos, besitos, besitos.

Like if the girl's trying to cause an issue, he'd be like, no, no, no, shut your mouth, kiss me. He would say like, shh, pasitas, pasitas, pasitas. Like if the girl's trying to cause an issue, he'd be like, no, no, no, shush your mouth, kiss me. He would say shush. He's got a thick accent, he'd just be like, shh, pasitas, pasitas. And I'd be like, ah! I have to go back to Love Island, because we didn't get to talk.

But when they went to the hideaway, Kendall and Nicole, it's crazy to think about how this is all a setup for them to make a porn. The sex dice, the cuffs, the way they are. They have handcuffs a lot of the time. It's all on camera. This is normal though, every superman. Yeah, so in the laundry, like the lingerie. When they did the hideaway, it was like this whole like,

they treated it like an old Irish ceremony. You know, like this rite of passage, you know? We're like, okay, now you're gonna put on the lingerie and all the girls got their lingerie and the guys got out there waiting for them and like they carted them off to hide away. It was weird that she came down in lingerie. In front of everybody else.

Really? Love Island, yeah. I mean, pop off, she looked great, but it was just like, damn, they're really leaning into this. And it's just like, it's their first sleepover. It kind of, it would never remind me of because in paradise it's very obviously paradise like there's the they call it what do they call it they've got the boom boom room the boom room

or something like that. Did you ever go to the boom room? Maybe no. Jinguesh. I went to the tree house. What is the tree house? There's the tree house and the boom boom room and what happens in the tree house? What happens in the same stuff. Yeah, they have a night camera most but like you some people are fucking do you really want no No, it's a Google search away. No, there's nothing on camera. No. Yeah, but The only thing that I wasn't trying to talk about me here I just remember I remember hearing producer stories because like, you know, it's ABC Disney, right?

And even Peacock, you know, they're not gonna show nudity or anything like that. But that being said, like in the control room, like these producers are watching these people fuck all the fucking time. And I've heard so many hilarious stories from producers about like certain bachelor men and how they fuck. And it's fucking hilarious.

And obviously I'm not going to name names or things like that. But just to think that like these TV characters, they get so used to cameras. They're just so desensitized by like being mic'd up or being on camera that they're like, yeah, they're rolling around the sheets, but they definitely have footage

of these people being naked and fucking, and in the control room, these people are just watching it go down. They're making a porno for these producers to watch. And it's fucking crazy. Where do you get dressed on Love Island? In the dressing room, and they see everything. Like in the girls' dressing room and whatnot.

Yeah, all the guys get dressed there, the bathroom, and there's cameras everywhere. Yeah. So like all... That's a good point, because someone has to watch it. Someone has to watch it. Someone. I will say, I mean, I do know that when people

are changing things like that, the camera, people that are in control of the cameras, they'll move the camera. Yeah, for the Bachelor, it's the assistant editors. Yeah, because they watch the entire live feed. So they have like every camera on channels. Oh my God, imagine having that job. Yeah, and if they see something, they'll go for it.

I almost did that straight out of college. You did? Yeah, to like a, I think it was like a editor's assistant or something on the Bachelor. And my job would have been like the night shift. Like I think it was 3 a.m. to 7 a.m. or something like that. And, or seven to three, I don't remember. And my job was just gonna be watching the dailies

and, like, selecting the good stuff and the bad stuff. I thought about this for Summer House. Because when they're in the rooms, they turn around specifically when they undress, but then some of them just, like, don't care and they have full-on sex scenes. Oh, I'm like, editors have seen Kyle Cook's balls, for sure. For sure. Like, jumping on the bed, whatever. And I was like, Kyle's naked Kyle Cook's balls, for sure. For sure. Or even like, oh.

Like jumping on the bed, whatever. And I was like, Kyle's naked more so than he's not. So I'm like. But it is crazy just to think that. That is crazy to think about. Someone's watching it. There's sex tapes filmed every season of Bachelor in Paradise and Love Island

and there's people watching them. Speaking of Kyle Cook, really quick, I got a DM asking if they could send me Loverboy, and I was like, I don't drink and I hate Kyle Cook. Non-alcoholic. Did you really respond to that? Yeah. Oh my God. And she was like, we have non-alcoholic,

but totally understand, we'll not send you anything ever, I swear to God. Oh no, they're scared. Oh my God. No, no, she's a friend of mine. But yeah, yeah, so I was like, like will not send you anything ever. I swear to God. Oh no, they're scared. Oh my God. No, no, she's a friend of mine. But yeah, yeah. So I was like, love you, love that you have like pop off, but I will not.

I don't want lover boy. Thank you. I did see a lover boy in the wild when I was in Big Bear. Someone was drinking one on the lake and I was like. But I mean, it was. It's Kyle's cousin. So everyone's upset about Brett going home. I'm really upset about Brett going home.

Yeah, what's the reason that people are upset? Well, personally, I'm upset because I think he did, all he did was show that he's a fun, good, kind person and he got sent home. Yeah, but a lot of the guys are fun, good and kind and they all get some- Yeah, but he did the splits. He did do the splits.

He was so nice. Agreed, yeah. I think a lot of the audience, which I think this is counterproductive, were attached to him going in because this season has a more diverse cast. And like, it's obvious that, like, producers were choosing specific people to, like, make it more diverse. So him being sent home was, like, a letdown for our audience.

I get that, but kind of... But they... It's counterproductive. Yeah, because if you're him, it's like the only reason, like now you're being labeled as like the bigger guy. Siloed, yeah. You know, siloed, it's just like Bachelor Nation

is making that his whole personality. First of all, he looks like an athlete to me. Yeah, he does. He looks like the guy who wins like the strongman competition. Yeah, he doesn't have the traditional like six pack abs or things like that, but like we're treating this guy as if, you know, he's plus have the traditional like six pack abs or things like that But like we're treating this guy's if you know He's plus size or something like that and it's just like if he's it's his mantle for representation It's just like I don't know it just like like Justin said it seems almost counterproductive

Yeah, and it's not about who he is kind of has an icky feeling to me is like why? Bachelor nation is you know going and this mantle for this guy. It has nothing to do with who he is, it was personality. They just decided he was gonna be a great, lovable, fun guy because of a picture. They also didn't showcase his personality a lot. Like I did see that he could do the splits, but I was like I don't really feel like

you got a lot of one on one time with him to understand why else he would have been chosen. I don't know, to me this is a bit reminiscent of grocery store Joe where where it was like, everyone was really pissed that he went home. They were pissed they went home because they're like, why are you sending home George Clooney? You know, like, this is one of the hottest guys

we've seen and you're just like, you're sending him home? Like, what? You're like, that was a wreck. And he also had a great personality. Whose season was he on? Becca Kufrins. Yeah, Becca Kufrins. Also, no, he didn't have a great, even grocery store Joe, if you ask him about it, it's a great personality. Whose season was he on? Becca Kufrins? Yeah, Becca Kufrins. Also, no, he didn't have a great,

even grocery store Joe, if you ask him about it, it's a hilarious story. He showed up night one and froze. He literally couldn't talk. He just like- Joe? Yeah, he was just- Funny.

You hear him tell the story, he's like, uh, uh, uh, uh. That was his conversation with Becca. It was like, uh, uh, uh. And he's so funny, so it's crazy. And he would point out the camera. Like he was just too like self-aware and he was like, you know, it's like at the end of the day, like that just doesn't work.

And so when he went back for Paradise, the conversations he had with producers, like we really like you, we want you to come on because obviously Bachelor Nation wants to see a second go of you, but like, can you do this? Like there was a real concern of, there's no point in bringing you on if you're just gonna go, uh. Think he got some media training?

He just got a little more comfortable and decided to forget about the cameras and things like that. But I guess this is all to say, if he was actually, say what you want about producers, they know how to make TV. And if they really thought he'd be good TV, he'd still be there.

You know what I'm saying? Because they don't, Jen didn't send him home. The truth is, Jen didn't keep him. See, there's a difference, especially night one. And actually throughout the season, the Bachelor and the Bachelorettes, they keep who they like. They don't really send people home, for the most part.

Every once in a while, there might be someone, they're like, this person needs to fucking go, I'm over them, yada, yada, yada. But like, producers send people home and the leads keep who they want, you know? So like, when it's night one and there's 25 people, Jen's like, I don't even know half these people's names. I remember Sam, I gave him the first impression,

I was like, I like him. And there's probably like three or four other guys that she's like, I don't know, I'm kind of interested and everyone else is a blur. So when they go in and decide who to go home, the producer's like, all right, Jen, who do you like? Who do you wanna keep? She's like, all right, I think this person,

I think that person. And eventually when she gets to like, I don't know, nine, 10, 11, she's like, what do you guys think? And then it's just like, well, we think this and we think you might have a match with this person. I actually think you might be compatible with them. We, you know, these people give us nothing. And this is based off just like, well, we think this and we think you might have a match with this person. I actually think you might be compatible with them. We, you know, these people give us nothing. And this is based off of like night one.

They're watching these people and who was who tried to have a conversation, who sat in a corner and just kind of like gave up, you know, and who didn't really try to have a conversation and yada, yada, yada. So like, you know, Jen, Jen had nothing to do with sending him home, but Jen could have kept him. And the producers clearly just didn't think he was giving enough. Interesting. And that's kind of how it always happens. It is interesting when you think about like, who goes home night one, and it's just like,

how do you decide that early? That's how it works. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. Anything else, Patrick? I just like Hakeem's face, that's all. He's like the new Justin, Mr. Facial Expression. Yeah, he is.

He's gonna be the one everybody makes a meme of. You know what's crazy? That'll get him at least to like week five or six. And paradise if it ever comes back. Yeah, you know, cause he's giving you something. You know, he's giving you reactions, he's giving the audience something to root for. And if all you can do is the splits,

sorry. By the start of the episode with Hakeem, I was like this guy with the balloons, I was like, he's not gonna make it, he's like, I can't get through the door. By the end of it, I was like, I want him to get a rose, please let him get a rose. Oh, I love him.

So I'm like rooting for him. I love him, and I wanna see his face on my screen every episode, I want to know, like he is giving me the reaction that I'm feeling inside on his face. Housewives of New Jersey. Is it really one of the worst things you can accuse someone of by accusing them

of stealing from a charity? It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I think it's bad, yeah. What would be worse? What are some other like- Stealing from an old person. Stealing from an old person.

Cause stealing from charity is like stealing from someone who like is sick or like needs help, you know? What's even worse about it is because like, I kind of have this theory. If you're under the age of 30 or 40, or just like if you're not incredibly well off with nothing to do and you start your own charity, I call bullshit.

Because you're not starting a charity for the most part. I know this is a broad statement, and I'm sure there's exceptions to every rule, but you're starting a charity for you, in the attention, in the validation, and what people are gonna say about you. Or charities are ripe for scams, that is a fact. A tax write off.

A tax write off, or you can pay yourself a salary, and you can make up what that salary is, and it's a non-profit, so to speak, so like you don't really have to record profits or anything like that. You can take, you know, it is ripe for a fraud. So that is a thing about charity. I will say with like the charity comment,

if you like listened closely, Danielle was more mad about it because Jennifer, the one who accused her of stealing, was mad about the charity because she wanted to bring Laura, who was a friend that started a Melissa cheating rumor, to Danielle's charity, to the VIP section. So it was like a little comment that like Danielle's mad, like you're scapegoating me for saying I'm stealing,

but also like I was, I didn't want you in my VIP because you're bringing the girl that started rumors about my friend. Is it stealing from the charity if you're just reimbursing yourself for the money that you're putting reimbursing yourself for the money that you're putting up for the big party? That was the other thing, yeah. Maybe.

Because I don't think so. No, reimbursing? No. Right. Like if you're running a charity, yes. To have a successful charity, you have to have donations, right? So people will donate their money and time.

And so as someone who runs a charity, yeah, I'm sure you also donate. It doesn't mean that you have to pay for everything out of your pocket to run it. Like, yeah, a charity is a business. Eventually, when it gets to a certain size, it has expenses. It gets into a gray area when you start paying yourself,

right, because you can pay yourself. Maybe there's some rules about this, but I think it's a pretty loose. Because then you're the charity at that point, if you're the one getting the money. Well, if you're like, well, I'm a CEO, every charity has a CEO. That is true.

There's definitely leaps and bounds, and there's also ethics to it as well. It's like somebody who starts a charity, can either sit on the board, but can't have full control, or can't be in charge of a bank account. There's a lot of things that are, I'm not being 100% articulate with it, but I do know that there's a lot of fine lines and like, I'm not being 100% articulate with it,

but I do know that there's a lot of fine lines and like what not to where when you cross it, you get flagged. So I'm like. I think you can fairly easily manipulate those. I'm like, that's the thing that's confusing. You can get friends and you're all in on it, so to speak. When people get confused about it,

cause it's like a nonprofit makes it seem as if nobody profits off of it. But I'm like, at the end of the day, if there's employees and other people that are working for the charity, they also need to get paid and have benefits and whatnot. So it's like a nonprofit is still profitable. Yeah. Well, yeah. Green Bay Packers, they're a nonprofit technically, and they make like $300 million a year. But that is the thing that the grayness, the gray area of the nonprofit, it almost seems like when you accuse someone of that, it could be like a projection of maybe the shady shit

you know that can go down in a charity. And if you know all that shit, now I'm like, that's why I don't have a nonprofit. If I did, I would be like, this motherfucker's up to something. But yeah, I feel like that's where the accusation is coming from. Is her own projection. Yeah, for sure.

How do you feel about Gia getting involved in the drama? I think she's promoting her TV show. No, they might as well just make her a housewife. Well, that's the thing. So Jen and Teresa are talking and they're like, all of the women except for Gia are talking about the drama, but it's like, Gia's the daughter. She's not a cast mate.

Even Melissa was like, why are we talking about this with a child? Regardless of she's 18, 21, however old she is, I'm like, you're talking about 40 year old women's drama and then bringing your daughter as a mouthpiece, but also as like protection to where it's like, if you're going to say what you're going to say to me, you got to say it in front of my kid, which it's like for most people would be like, absolutely not, not going to touch that. So I think it's a very manipulative of Teresa bringing Gia in and sticking her to start something

with somebody else's husband. Yeah, because then Jen, Jennifer Fessler, you didn't like when Jennifer Fessler was saying like, if you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. But Jennifer Fessler is still trying to be like the peacekeeper of the group. She's the one that's getting like yelled at and Rachel's being like, you're obsessed with me. Stop talking about my husband. Stay out of it.

But that's the thing. I'm like, it's a little bit, you know, obviously love it, the drama for a reality TV show, but at the same time as a viewer watching in a real life situation, you're like, yeah, stay out of it, this isn't your shit. Trying to patch together two people that clearly don't wanna be on a mutual understanding and are calling each other's husbands drug dealers

and all these other crazy accusations and names, I'm like, you have no part in this, be Switzerland. Isn't it crazy that there's only two episodes left? I feel like three. So how many episodes is it? It is crazy. So I looked at the last season of Beverly Hills, and it was around 20 episodes,

and last season of Salt Lake City was like 18. So they're gonna be 12 total? Yeah. Well, and then there's, so they announced that on July 15th, they're gonna shoot an alternative reunion. The two sides will watch the finale scene separately. So they're gonna have a reunion now?

Well, like an alternative version. So it's basically BravoCon Part 2, where they have two separate panels talking about. And they're doing like End of Vanderpump rules, where they showed them the last five minutes of the finale. So they're gonna show them either the whole finale. It's giving like they just couldn't come up with new storylines, so they just fucking ended it.

The show's gonna end, or they're gonna recast it, I think. They have to. There's no way forward from here. Honestly, this season's been kind of like, Dolores is starting a electricity company with her boyfriend, like, I don't care. There was something a couple episodes ago that I thought we should have brought up,

where Paul, Dolores's partner now, was like, if you get plastic surgery, I'm gonna leave you. And I thought that was pretty like, whoa. I'll take. Yeah. Paul said that? Yeah, because they were at the gym, and she was like, I don't really wanna be here, like, I'm here for you,." And I thought that was pretty like, well. I'll take. Yeah. Paul said that? Yeah, because they were at the gym and she was like, I don't really want to be here. Like I'm here for you. But he was like, well, like, because she was like, I can just fix

it with plastic surgery. I mean, your body, your choice, but is that like a completely dick move or does your partner have a right to be like, well, if you change your appearance, I might, I might feel a different way about it. Cause he wasn't trying to be a dick, but as an audience member, I was like, is that your choice? It's not his choice, but like it's, he has the right to feel away about it. I suppose.

But it's definitely a, I wouldn't want him to say something like that on TV. I know that one. I think it's the approach. Cause it was like, James Kennedy also got in trouble for that when he was dating Raquel and she was talking about wanting to get another nose job. And he was like, but I'm the one that has to look at it. I think you look fine the way you are. So it's kind of like, it's one thing if you're saying,

I love you the way that you are, and I really don't think you need to change something. And if so, can it not be something so drastic? If you do this, I'll break up with you. But yeah, like not like, yeah, if you do this, I will leave. Like, I doubt it. I fucking doubt it. He just needs to do what Teresa did for Larsa Pippen.

Did you see those? This is so funny. Larsa Pippen's birthday just passed and Teresa basically was like, I didn't have a picture that was good enough of her. Like I was scrambling around. So her solution was to Photoshop a good picture of them onto a beach, but like not clean it up.

What? So it's giving like Kate the royals. So she Photoshopped this. She took two good pictures of each of them. So she didn't have a photo, but she claims that she's super close friends with Arza. When your friend's birthday, you want to post, so it comes around, you try to look for the most recent photo.

It's a photo of them together, like when they were in Mexico, I believe, and then they photo. Look at the blur. I don't know if they were in Mexico. Her assistant, she called her assistant being like, hey, I need you to fix this photo. And her assistant's like, I'm in Mexico right now.

And she goes perfect. Take a picture of the beach. And then Photoshop me in here. There it is. Look, you can see like, it's so bad. It's like a good, it's kind of giving good friends. Well, it's also kind of iconic too, because then it's like,

not only does Teresa play into it and loves it, but then it was like, everybody's taking this photo and Photoshopping them in front of like the pyramids. The- Oh, I love this. Jesus. The power. The... The power. The power. The redeemer. This is great.

It's so funny. I mean, people are having so much fun with it. My favorite part was MJ from the Traders took that photo and Photoshopped herself the meme photo of her just standing there on the bottom. Look at this. Look at this. And then she posted it twice, the same photo.

Oh, this is incredible. People are just having a lot of fun with it. Not Aviva's legs. Yeah, I agree with that. This is kind of giving good friends. It's like, I want to post for my friend. I don't want to reuse something. I mean, it gave her more publicity on her birthday.

This is fucking incredible. Teresa's iconic because she just doesn't care. Yeah. Like, she's too messy to even like try. Truly. I feel like this is the best way to like... Do you think if they recast, they will completely recast or they'll like this Like pick between Melissa or Teresa then go from there. They're gonna pick for sure

Like there is a picture there were insiders that came out like weeks ago that were like it's gonna be Rachel Teresa and like Dolores is like the people that they were quoting as they're keeping but it's not a confirmed But then you know that the first the next season is gonna kind of be a bomb, just like New York was. It's gonna be a lot of manufactured drama and manufactured storylines, and you're gonna have to wait for like season two for anything to really like be real.

Well, Teresa's an OG, and I'm sure she'll probably have like some input on like casting that I'm like, Jersey's pretty small and tight in it, so I feel like they're really good about like bringing actual friends or people, like Jen Fessler and people who are actually involved in the group. Like Dolores and Jen Fessler were on the show

like seasons before, just like appearances. So I'm like, I would think that they would recast knowing that it's like actual relationships and what makes the show work. Yeah. All right, well that about does it for this episode of Reality Recap. We'll be back on Monday for another episode of Ask Nick and on Tuesday,

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