The Viall Files - E789 - RHONJ Finale, The Olympics, RHOC, Sonic Drive-ins, and My Grandparents' Love Letters

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Today is 888, and we’re manifesting a fun episode… Join us to talk about the crazy RHONJ Finale, Heather Dubrow’s paparazzi photos, Paris Hilton a...nd Nicole Richie at the Sonic Drive-Ins, sending physical love letters, as well as the Olympics.  “I think babies make you appreciate older people.”  Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Quince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to https://www.Quince.com/viall for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Apostrophe - We have a special deal for our audience: Get your first visit for only $5 at https://www.Apostrophe.com/VIALL when you use our code: VIALL. Huggies - Learn More At https://www.Huggies.com  Life360 - Stay connected with those who matter most with Life360. Visit https://www.Life360.com or download the app today and use code VIALL to get one month of the gold package for free, plus 15% off all Tiles. Helix Sleep - Helix is offering up to 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to https://www.HelixSleep.com/Viall  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @dereklanerussell  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 14:25 - Makeup 20:27 - Olympics 30:41 - Clocks 36:42 - Simple Life 43:35 - Gen Alpha 49:02 - Love Island 50:05 - Vanderpump 51:31 - Andy Cohen 57:19 - Zara 01:00:23 - Grocery Store 01:02:55 - Teeth Whitening 01:07:37 - RHOC01:21:29 - RHONJ 01:32:53 - Outro

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wife Natalie, they got the household in LA, we're at the lake, life couldn't be sweeter. How's everyone doing? Fantastic. How was your travel day? Travel day was pretty great. We got to interview Carly Pearce,
Starting point is 00:00:34 which was super exciting, out next Wednesday for an episode of Going Deeper you will not wanna miss. Big fans of her. No, yeah, I'm definitely, I put Nick on for sure. I love her, I think her music is really, really good and so when we got the opportunity to interview her, I was like, absolutely. And so interesting and definitely.
Starting point is 00:00:59 She's been through it. Yeah, and wanted to open up and wanted, very, just a really real, authentic and very incredibly talented person who has got amazing music. And then we hopped on a plane. I traveled. That was it's getting like harder. I don't know about harder. It's giving like me more anxiety to travel now that River's older.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And like she doesn't sleep the whole time. She feeds just a little bean. And it was just like we just had to, it was like traveling with an egg. You know, it's like, hey, you're gonna go through a lot, but you gotta make sure this egg, this unboiled egg gets to, you know, point A to point B without you breaking it. Unboiled.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Well, you know, if you drop a boiled egg, it bounces. It bounces. But it's fine. If you drop an unboiled egg, it's game over. It's just interesting that you had to clarify that it was not just an egg. That's just how my brain works, I don't know. For sure, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Useless information. Well, because now she talks, right? So she can be screaming on the plane and you have them there. Oh my God. She's reading paragraphs for sure, yeah. She's walking and talking. Yeah, no, but she's for sure, she's vocal. And people on the plane are like, "'Oh my gosh, she's so cute,' and I'm like, "'thank you,' and they're like, is she good?' And I'm like, sure, she's vocal. And people on the plane are like,
Starting point is 00:02:05 oh my gosh, she's so cute. And I'm like, thank you. And they're like, is she good? And I'm like, well, we'll see. Don't know. I hope so. We hope. She is very charming though.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Like she laughs at people. She has a pretty good personality. She makes friends. She makes friends. When we got off the plane, my dad hasn't seen River in a month. He did say, ugh. If any of your siblings and or nieces and nephews.
Starting point is 00:02:27 He just said like, maybe I'm biased, but that might be the cutest baby I've ever seen. Oh, I agree. My dad has 11 kids of his own. And what, 12 grandchildren? How many grandchildren? I think 12. And maybe he says that to everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:41 But like. It felt sincere. It felt sincere. Anyways, I think, you know, our, I think the passengers are delighted by the laughing cute baby. Yeah. And she thinks Jeff is-
Starting point is 00:02:52 I sound like such a dad who's just like, why are you making that kid do some math? She also thinks- She was just chucking things at people. Yeah. Maybe he convinced. It's like she, she would start start to cry and then one of like, and it was so funny, it was always like these older men
Starting point is 00:03:09 that you know have like had kids and have grandkids, you know? Yeah. And they were smiling at her, waving at her, and she'd try to cry and then she'd just start laughing at them and it's like, you're making friends. I see what you're doing here. I will say, I think babies make you appreciate
Starting point is 00:03:25 older people than you. I think we live in a world where everyone, we're heads down on our phones, we just don't say hi to people. And then when strangers come up to us, we're like, fuck you, get the fuck out. What, why are you talking to me, stranger? Everyone's stranger danger.
Starting point is 00:03:41 But having a kid, a lot of people will come up to you and especially if it's someone who's like older than you, you can see the look in their eyes of like, you know, sometimes it's always like, oh, well, you know, enjoy a wild last and like some people are kind of obnoxious and some people like will look at you. Like when we did the team outing, when we went bowling
Starting point is 00:04:02 and when we, before we walked in, this older man, he stopped and he looked at us and at first we're like, can we help you? And then he just kind of was just like, hey man, this is a really incredible time, congratulations to you both, and he's, he was 81 years old. And I was like, what's your name? And he was like, John.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And like, you could see like in his eyes, him like going back in his brain about the life he lived with his family and his kids. And it's just like- Because he was saying it goes by fast. Yeah, and it wasn't like a someone being, it was a person who saw us and sincerely wanted to pass down wisdom, whether we wanted to take it or not.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And that's how it felt. It felt like he had angel energy, you know, like where it was just like, you could tell he wanted to, like he wanted to connect and he wanted to like pass down this wisdom because like he was literally looking at his life and it was sad and like in missing it. Anyways, it was one of those things where it makes you like, wanna like, you know, it's a little things
Starting point is 00:05:05 when you travel with your baby, like the way people connect with her is kind of fascinating and it makes us like realize certain things and it's opened up more like doors to like, you know, be aware of at least someone like me who is like, can not be present at times. It's also just, I think all- Sierra laughs.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I think all moms have this like connection, you know, when you see another mom with a baby or a pregnant woman or something, and you're just, you have that connection with each other and it's like, you know what each other's been through. And so, yeah, I feel like it is this like, we've been there, we know, or we're gonna be there. And it's just this, it's human beings connecting and it's just so lovely. We owe it to our daughter. She's basically an angel.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I did see a video though that it's like babies are a life hack to like an airport if you have multiple carry-ons and what it was was this mother had her baby in the stroller and then what I learned from River is babies have grip. Like strong grip. So the mother was, she was pushing the stroller and on both sides, the baby was holding the carry-ons. So like she was pushing the stroller and the baby was just pulling the carry-ons on the side. And she was just like going down the terminal
Starting point is 00:06:16 with like everything. Oh, cause they like roll really easy. Yeah, that's pretty great. Yeah. Life hack. Anyways, we're at the lake. We're having a great time. Also, not to keep it about us. Anyways, we're at the lake, we're having a great time. Also, not to keep it about us,
Starting point is 00:06:27 last time we were at the lake, we discovered Nally and I these old letters. And we were like, what are these? And my mom was like, oh, those are letters that my parents wrote to each other when they were dating. Mostly from my grandfather to my grandmother. Some correspondence back from- Y'all already know my response
Starting point is 00:06:45 when we started reading these. Mother Teresa. Why don't you write me letters? Right, bring back the physical letter. We did say that though, we were like, getting a love letter, like waiting for that? Love isn't real unless it's a physical letter. There's like 30 of these,
Starting point is 00:06:58 and I don't know if we should do anything. Dated January 25th, 1945. Wow. He writes Friday. It's crazy. And it's wonderful like- Handwriting. Handwriting.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah. He titles it, My Darling. I'm just waiting for my dinner. And then my pal and I are gonna go to the lake and ice skating. My pal. I'm great. It's hard to read.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Did you read this before? I was gonna say- Anyways, it's very beautiful. It's a very great cursive, you know? Yeah, and we've seen other letters, like it's my grandfather, he's like 21, literally just to set the stage. He just got back from the Pacific fighting in World War II. Wow, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:07:39 He's like still, I think he still might be in the military and this is like he's getting out and he's planning his entire life. You know, and this is what they- They haven't met each other's parents yet. Like in a lot of her letters, she's like, I can't wait for you to meet my mom. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And so yeah, it's them courting. It's like when they just met. And there's like, I saw one letter where he talks about the man he wants to grow up to be and the family he wants to grow up to be and the family he wants. And it's crazy to be his grandson and to be reading that with my daughter in a weird, and it's charming.
Starting point is 00:08:15 My grandma writes him back, his name is Roland, she calls him Rolly. It really takes you back into a- You can read the love, it's really sweet. And just like how genuine people used to be. Yeah. You know, they fought a lot, too. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I'm just saying, like, drop the situation ships and bring back courting. Oh, my God. How much was the stamp act then? Three cents. Three cents. Like now it's like twenty dollars for a book. And I love how every letter he dates that he dates it with the day of the week. It was a Friday.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And then there's ones where like, he writes a letter the next day. It's not like he did this to like, what should I do to stop my girlfriend from breaking up with me? And I'm like, I'll write her a letter that she's been asking me to do 31 times. He just writes her every day.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Well, you know. It's giving the notebook. He didn't have, like, listen, trust and trust. He says, I just can't wait until I see you again, darling. I think of you so much. I only hope you think of me once in a while. Time to eat dinner. I really must close my eyes for now.
Starting point is 00:09:17 All my love, yours, Roly. Oh, I love that. I'm unwell. No, they're literally written as if you, yeah, an old fashioned love note. Anyways, so- So I haven't dropped it at all. And I'm like, where are my letters?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Because River needs to read these one day. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Next time I can tell my list of things to do, I'll get there. River's just gonna be like, hold on, look at these screenshots my mom sent me one time of me texting the dad. Our love is well documented, sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:09:46 No, for sure, but not in things like this. That's funny. It would be screenshots. By the way, we do have our full length wedding video and it is glorious and is spectacular. And we shared so much, we probably should share it at some point. How do you share it?
Starting point is 00:10:00 Do we just put it on the- Well, it's like six minutes, so I think we have to- On your YouTube? Drop it on the main page. On the YouTube channel. We can post it on TikTok. Drop it on YouTube. Throw some ads on there.
Starting point is 00:10:06 No. Listen, we're parents. Gotta pay for our wedding. We're parents. Yeah, seriously. Anyways, let us know in the comments. Maybe this is of interest to no one, but maybe we should do some with these letters.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I don't know. We could like set the mood and have like a- Oh my gosh. A dramatic meeting. We could hire actors or something to play. We can make a movie out of it. We can make a podcast movie out of it. Instead of drunk history, it's love history.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Or we could just read a letter a week or nothing. Maybe it's a stupid fucking idea. We can call Randall Emmett and he can produce. Oh my God. Doesn't he produce like what? Lala's ex? Yeah, doesn't he do like B? Why would you disparage my grandparents name
Starting point is 00:10:46 by getting Randall M to produce this movie? No, God no. You were saying like, we should like do, you were saying how we should hire. No, dig out of the hole. No, keep. Shonda Rhimes, that's who we need. I was just thinking of a producer
Starting point is 00:11:02 who does kind of like more lower budget films. Oh, me? That's where it was coming from. For sure, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Obviously, I think, you know. No, no, no, we're not making a movie. Low budget, huh? Not yet, not yet. Maybe Nicholas Sparks could do it, actually.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It needs to be, we need to make a, no, it's an audio love story. Y'all are all over the place right now. What is happening? Yeah, I'm just gonna take a step back. We could do violence. The lake does have fresh air. It revigorates you.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We get in late, because we found the perfect flight. Anyways, it's a half a day's travel. I feel like I wound Nick up this morning on a little weep, weep, weep, on my Instagram. If you look, there's a shoot, I caught it right at the end, a shooting star. Anyways, the, I really did, babe, look. I saw, I saw, I saw.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It's not as cool as I think? No, no, no, it is cool. It really just gets, it's so fast. No, well, it happened just at the end, but it was so much more amazing. But did you see it on the phone later or did you see it in real life? Here's a gripe, Here's a gripe.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Here's a gripe. Alright. Apple, Google, or just the camera industry in general. Well, no, no, no, not the camera industry. I don't know enough about cameras to know that maybe there is a solution that doesn't cost 50, whatever, thousand or a hundred dollars. But an iPhone or the phone people out there, every version, it's just like every year they come out with a new phone
Starting point is 00:12:25 and it's always like, why is this different? And they're always like, the camera's better, at some version of the camera being that much better. But when it's a full moon or the stars are starring, like you ever see a giant full moon and it takes up half the sky, you're like, oh my God, you whip out your phone, you gotta capture that.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And it's like a little fucking dot of sand. Yeah. Isn't that? Yeah. This is not irritating. You guys are so hard. No, no, no, no. I just was wondering.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That was just like, okay, gripe of the week, sorry. No, no, no. That's a very valid gripe. And that's very true. There's, how many? No, you're right. You are right. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Did you see the shooting star in real life or did you see it later on when you were writing on your Instagram story? No, no, I really saw it in real life. Okay. It was a good question though. Did you make a wish? Did you make a wish?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I didn't. Oh. Was I supposed to? Oh my God. It was a shooting star. You wasted your one, yes. That's like the luckiest moment you'll ever come across. I paid it forward.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I do believe that when wishes go unwished, that there's some little kid out there, you know, saying a little prayer and having a wish. And that wish has passed forward onto that little child. And I believe that's what I did. Was that in a movie? Period. Can someone insert the crickets?
Starting point is 00:13:35 No, that's cute, that's cute. That's cute. No, that is sweet. I'm so- I'll go hug myself. No, no, no, he just pulled that straight out of his ass. But that was so sweet, honey. And I'm so glad that you're paying it forward to that sweet little kid who needed that wish wait. I will say
Starting point is 00:13:49 No, no, I will say tomorrow tomorrow and numerology is 888 So if you're gonna make a wish make a wish August 8th, 2024, so that adds up to 888 Wow When you have to start doing math, it's less cool Yeah You know my birthday's coming up. When you're like, well, if you add them together, divide by three and carry the two, it's all eights. What do you have in store for my birthday?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Anxiety. Good answer. Okay, perfect, yes of course. I can't wait too, it's also gonna get me excited. Did y'all see my series the other night of me asking Nick to take my makeup off and him not doing it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yes, I did. I saw it, I feel like I saw it on TikTok. I did, I also did post it on TikTok. I was like, babe, you're funny. You should post it on TikTok. And then like TikTok was like, it's okay. It didn't do that bad. Well, also, we didn't's okay. It didn't do that bad. Well also, we don't think-
Starting point is 00:14:47 It wasn't for the views. It was to share our love. Yeah, that's true. Why did it take you so long to get the washcloth? Why did it take you so long to get the washcloth? Because I don't wanna get up. The amount of people who were like, I thought that Nick was gonna do it,
Starting point is 00:14:59 and then you didn't, it was like, they were shut. I get up a lot. And then that moment, it just wasn't my time. Wasn't his time, even though I did push his child out. That's actually not true. That's actually not true. She wasn't asking me, like I did get up and go get her water as I do every night, so much so it's not like,
Starting point is 00:15:19 oh, baby, you got me water. It's, did you get my water? Well, I do need to drink. Now I was like, which I was happy to do and I love. I'm an acts of service. Like it's as much for me as it is for Natalie because I love to show love through acts of service. Anyway, Natalie wasn't asking me to go get her nightly water
Starting point is 00:15:39 and close the house down and, you know, do what all, you know, whatever we do as a family. But she was like, no, I want you to remove my makeup and do my night routine in bed. To which I replied, no, thank you. And- Catch me later, I'll do it later. And then at the very end, she's like,
Starting point is 00:15:56 well, when you get up and get me my water, can you at least get me a warm cloth? And I was like, I can do that, no problem. And then I got her one. That's how that happened. Didn't want to do the 15 steps. He didn't feel like he didn't feel like rubbing in the serums and doing the eye creams and honestly just the thought of it gives me I I'm not good at my at doing my nightly that I'm reboot. I'm not I'm not good at doing my nightly routine.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I see it. How many steps is your nightly routine, Nick? Oh my God, it's literally like rubbing a dish detergent on his face. I don't know why. I rub lotion on my face, you have to pound it in. I'm not like- Oh, it's the most aggressive thing ever. Everyone else is just gently doing this,
Starting point is 00:16:49 and I'm just like, squishing. I don't know why I do that. I don't know. I think that's a man thing. I do do that. I think that's a man thing, because we are like, you have to go up, because if you go down, you create wrinkles and gravity,
Starting point is 00:17:02 and so you go up and you go up. And I'm like, I have to do this as fast as I can because every moment I have to do this gives me anxiety. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. Do you think Ryan Reynolds or Brad Pitt thinks that way or George Clooney maybe?
Starting point is 00:17:14 I don't know. Oh. They put it on time. Does Nick have the tsunami of water after he washes his face? Like the thing where some people, the sink is covered in water after they do their skincare. Oh my God, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. Yeah. No, some there, Nally showed me a TikTok or a reel of a woman who like, you know, played her husband for the day and it was, I think everything I've ever done. It's like, as soon as you walk in the door, the shoes are- Like you just kick them anywhere. You leave things anywhere. Just right for anyone to trip over,
Starting point is 00:17:42 the hand on the pants. It, you look, I mean, she played essentially a six-year-old boy and I felt an utter shame. I'm like, nope, yeah, I've done that. You guys mature in so many different ways, but the cleaning up after yourself. He's kind of like that too. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I'll take the emotional intelligence, but like for fuck's sake, just pick up the shoes. Justin, are of like that too. Yeah, he is. I'll take the emotional intelligence, but like for fuck's sake, just pick up the shoes. Justin, are you like that? Pick up your shoes. Are you? I'm a clean person in that sense. I believe you are. I used to joke that I was Cinderella of the family
Starting point is 00:18:16 because like I was just always clean. Like it needs to be clean for me to exist. So in that sense. Actual question. I feel like most of my gay friends are very Meticulous and tidy and clean. I've had some messy gay roommates. You okay? That's what you some of them just don't clean I had a roommate that literally like when we moved in we were like, okay
Starting point is 00:18:37 Who's gonna clean this day who's gonna clean that day and he literally goes I don't clean Okay, huh? Yeah, well, it's good. That's right. Well, it's good to hear because- It's good to hear that we're all the same when it comes down to it. Be who you are. I don't like that I am this way. It's embarrassing, like when I saw that video.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Oh, because there's nothing you could do to change it. Yeah. Well, it's strength in numbers. No, Sierra, nothing he can do to change it. He's like, this is just, it's who I am. And apparently it's all men. It's me. You know what, no, I said that,
Starting point is 00:19:10 I think that's one of the benefits of getting older is there are certain aspects, I don't know if you guys notice anyone, as employees and as my life partner, I make a genuine attempt every day to try to work on things, improve things, be a better version of myself to some degree, check in. I genuinely do.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But as you get older, you learn, it's just like, oh, I am this way. This is who I am. And I just need to start accepting it. That's the self-love part. So then once you start doing that, when you meet someone, you're like, hey, heads up, I'll do my best.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But full disclosure, I'm just never going to be fucking good at this. You know? So like, I'm just going to tell you now and like, right. There's this, it's like, yeah, it's just like the cupboards open the forget. It's just like the bad habits. You're just like, I don't know why I'm like this, you know, and everyone has some vert, sorry, bless you. I say bless you 95% of the time.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Why do I feel like I'm on trial right now? No, it wasn't even you. Natalie Shock took so much. No one's coming for you. No one's coming for you at all. There's just so much going on and I'm just talking. No, it's fine. You're doing great.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Have we said I love you yet today? I love you. Household headlines, what's going on in the world? I don't know what's going on. Olympics. Gymnastics team has a dog. A therapy dog. It's still the Olympics. I feel like we have been...
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's like a two week thing. Oh, but I think we have until like mid to end of August. I think it's like two three weeks. Three day event, 36 hours, and an entire city transforms, which it takes a four year process? To be fair, I did. I did think it was three days. You did?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Like a couple, I thought it was all simultaneously, like the 20, 30 different events, done, okay, let's go. You're about to learn. It's happening in LA, you're about to learn. So question, question, is this a signal that these Olympics have been more popular than recent? Because like, Sierra, did you grow up watching the Olympics as a kid with your family?
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yes. Like it was such a thing. Whether I wanted to or not, it was on television. Sure, yeah. We never did. I mean, also less options, you know, like network television, people actually. I don't think we had cable.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Same, yeah. Again, it wasn't on cable, it was, like network television, people actually. I don't think we had cable. Same, yeah. Again, it wasn't on cable, it was like on network television. So you did have access to it. Like channels one through 20. You definitely had might to get out an antenna or two. Get out an antenna, I wasn't getting out an antenna. You could have had your brother hold like aluminum foil. All for the Olympics, no I wasn't doing that.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I was teaching. Have you learned nothing from me? No, I know, but I'm just like, is this a generational thing? Did we give up? Was there a 10 year period where people were just like, no, we just don't do this? People were watching it. I think it just depends family to family. Yeah. Yeah. And depends on what you're into. It is more popular now. And I think it's like TikTok and Peacock because you can stream it. But also we have it like short form. Is Gen Z watching the Olympics? Oh, for sure. Yes. Because people are like thirst trapping, like swim athletes, gymnastics, whoever else, yeah. At the Olympics back.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because I feel like no one paid attention to Tokyo. And certainly like Tokyo is an amazing city. Like, you know. I will be honest, I didn't really watch those. You know, sometimes there's a draw. Why didn't you? Like Paris has a charm to it. Cause I don't live with my family.
Starting point is 00:22:24 It wasn't on the television. She moved out by then. Y'all I'm 33. I haven't live with my family. It wasn't on the television. She moved out by then. Y'all, I'm 33. I haven't lived with my family for a while. I'm just saying, it wasn't something that I would do free choice versus doing something else. Now I'm settled in my relationship. What are we gonna do?
Starting point is 00:22:37 We're gonna watch the Olympics tonight. Now we don't have to decide a show to watch. So four years ago, you were not down to watch Tokyo. Four years ago, yeah, Connor and I were still like out, not sitting on the couch together. You were partying. Yeah, you were partying. We were out. Got it. It's been really good.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And maybe the only one who cares. Sorry. Oh my God. Sorry, he's puking. Just a little indigestion. Yeah. I'm a little, that's a leaning forward. Are you gonna burp your mother, baby? Natalie? Jesus, yeah, yeah, yeah,'m a little, that's a leaning forward. Are you gonna birth your brother, baby Natalie? Jesus, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, blip. Oh, by the way, any other parents out there just rock constantly, even when they're not holding their child because they're used to rocking their child? I think that's the most relatable thing, parents. Yeah, I feel like I see- I'm at the airport just doing this.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yes, and I'll see other parents who like, maybe don't have, or I'm just assuming their parents, cause they're all so swaying. I'm like, oh, we're all in this together. Anyways, what were we talking about? Jinks, by my code. Therapy dog, Olympics. Oh, it's gonna be in the LA in four years.
Starting point is 00:23:37 The next Summer Olympics is LA. It is? It's not what we were talking about. Zach, what were we talking about? I just told you, you were saying that nobody watched the Tokyo Olympics. I said that we started talking about? I just told you, you were saying that nobody watched the Tokyo Olympics, I said, then we started talking about Connor and not watching it. That was three minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Cause then you got indigestion, my dude. No, but in the moment I got indigestion. Oh, I don't know what the thought was, cause you burped. I was in the middle of a thought. We don't know what it was. You hadn't let anything out yet, it was just the middle of a thought. We don't know what it was. The burp killed it. Can't let anything out yet. It was just the burp. Just the burp.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It was a glitch in the system. Yes, the Olympics are coming to LA and that's why you will know in the next four years because traffic is about to be atrocious. We better work in a moment. Oh my gosh. Or I will live in here. Come to the valley.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I will live here for a month. Yeah, depending on where we live at that point in the greater LA area. But there's an argument to be made. Either we go to the valley. I will live here for a month. Yeah, depending on where we live at that point in the greater LA area. But there's an argument to be made, either we go to the Olympics or we go to the lake. You know what I'm saying? Or we don't go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But we, no, we are a media company. We're gonna cover that shit left and fucking right. Who only knows what the VOW files is gonna be in four years? We're gonna be hosting the Olympics. Hell fucking yeah. I don't know sports, but I'll be there. It's gonna be on Envy Media, not Peacock. It's a streaming channel.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah. Period. Start the bids now. What was I gonna say? I think it's probably already taken care of. Oh, how often is it that the Olympics is in your city? I feel like we have to go. We can't escape that.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, no, that is incredible. Yeah, what am I talking about? I did see people were saying the opening ceremony should be down and up the 405. Like how LA would it be if it's not the 405? Screaming. Is it the 405 or the 101? That's so true.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Oh, it could be 101. California, here we come. The 101 to the 10. I remember my thought. The 1,500 meters, America and the men's won gold and bronze and the man who won gold, I believe, that was a total underdog. Justin Kiyo Google their names so I can stop
Starting point is 00:25:29 just preferring to them as man A and man B. But congratulations to them. That's an incredible feat. Americans generally dominate the sprints. Any way from the one to two, their hurdles up to the 400. What is it, 15,000 meter? 1,500 meters. 1,500. 15,000. 15,000. They've been running,000. There are hurdles up to the 400. What is it? 15,000 meter? 1,500 meters. 1,500.
Starting point is 00:25:45 15,000. They've been running, honey. There's a 10,000 meter race. How fast did you run in 10,000? Oh my God, never. I was terrible. Sea hawker. Is his name? Sea hawker? Gold from U.S.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Well, that's abbreviated. What a bad ass name. Cole hawker. Are you okay? Cole hawker. Cole hawker. Cole. Cole hawker. Hawker. Cole Hawker. Are you okay? Cole Hawker. Cole Hawker. Cole. C-O-L-E. Hawker.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Cool fucking name. For the 1500 meter was gold and then silver was Josh Kerr from Britain. Anyways, incredible. Also, like I didn't realize Britain. So the two Americans and a Brit. That's usually, that hasn't happened in a long time in the 1500 meter. So I thought it was pretty cool. Anyways, I love the track and field. Oh, what else did you do?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Because you were state champion? What? Because you were state champion? Is that why you love it? Because I was a state, high school. You were high school state champion. You hate that. I know, this whole time I thought
Starting point is 00:26:38 it was college state champion. I thought it was college state, he was D1 athlete college. There's no college state champion, babe. Well, I wouldn't there be? These are valid questions, by the way. It's beyond the state. It's beyond the state.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Beyond the state. Country champion. Well, there was only two D1 colleges in the state of Wisconsin. So like to be, I guess, the state champion in Wisconsin. Is there any video footage of your track? There was in high school and I probably got lost. Lost in.
Starting point is 00:27:06 How convenient. Oh, I would love. I would love to. It's like I'm the state champion. I ran a four to one, whatever the hell that means, but there is not one single video footage. No, I wish, like, listen, like CRD ever feel this way where it's just like, you guys are gonna grow up
Starting point is 00:27:22 with so much like river, probably too much, but like her whole life is gonna be documented. It's true. In ways that like ours aren't, you know, and like that would be kind of cool. Like it is cool now, like, you know, it's sometimes it can be a little crazy, you know, teach their own, but like our wedding videos,
Starting point is 00:27:38 our wedding video, we'll always have that. And like, you know, not everyone has always done that back in the day. Like my parents, it's not like we can go like pop in our parents' wedding video. And if it was, it would be like some VHS and like, you know, whatever. Home videos.
Starting point is 00:27:52 No, it's a, there is, definitely I'm envious of the people who- Did you ever win a medal? Oh my God, so many. So many. So where are they? Yeah. They're sewed to my leather jacket.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They had all the medals on both sides. It was too heavy to wear. Where's your leather jacket? Literally. I need are they? Yeah. They're sewed to my leather jacket. They had all the metals on both sides. It was too heavy to wear. Where's your leather jacket? Literally. I need to see this artifact. Where is my leather jacket? Hey, Mary. Well, ask my mom.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Natalie does the laundry, ask her. I'll take a picture of it. It's probably in the fucking attic. So the rest of household headlines. What's going on? What else is going on? Ariana Ramsey from the USA rugby team did post an Instagram video saying her shock at the amenities
Starting point is 00:28:26 and she said she got free food free dental free health care and even got a pap smear and Has eye appointment scheduled for the next week and the Olympic Village in the Olympic Village? Yeah It's just nice that like it's clearly like very convenient like it's a village. Yeah, I was like dang give that to everybody There's something about booking a doctor's appointment and then scheduling it, because it's always in the middle of a fucking day. It's never convenient. You're just like, you always put it off, just because going to the doctor,
Starting point is 00:28:53 I don't know what it is, maybe I'm alone here, but if it was down the hall and they're like, hey, just pop in and give some blood. Do y'all think the village has like a coffee shop? For sure. They do, yeah, cause then they have bars. It's like a cute little village. Oh my God, it's a whole village.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It's a literal village. Literal, literal village. It's a literal village. Oh! I can't. Look at cute, I'd love to see some like, some pics of the village. Speaking of village, there was an Olympic athlete.
Starting point is 00:29:24 What's her name? She was like allegedly kicked out for inappropriate behavior. She, I think she's like goes to college in America, but she like, I don't even, she might even be American, but she was competing for Paraguay, which is interesting about the Olympics. Like some people have dual citizenships and like, will compete, like they've grown up in America,
Starting point is 00:29:42 but will compete for a different country or vice versa. That is always kind of fascinating. She's a swimmer, Luanne Alonso from Paraguay. Yeah, what was the story? I saw something on E! News about it, like she got kicked out or. It says for creating an inappropriate environment. What was that?
Starting point is 00:29:57 And then she was like denying it or something? She did deny it. But she got kicked off the Olympic team. Like what do you have to do for your country to be like, yeah, I don't care that you trained 24 seven for four years. Like you're off the team. Like we don't, we don't want you representing us. Clearly not be a convicted. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. Yeah. There's the, the, that terrible human of a man who committed that atrocity who's competing, but this girl is what? Like kicked off the team. I don't even know what what is it what does she have to do I don't even know I don't think we know as of now it's just alleged that she was booted and I was like in a she created an inappropriate atmosphere keeps being repeated but they're not saying exactly what it was
Starting point is 00:30:38 that she did to create said atmosphere okay on a separate note Adrian bylon from the real she basically this clip is going viral, she can't read a clock, like a physical clock. She's like, I have it on my watch, but like, I don't know what it says. Who is this? Adrienne Bylon, Adrienne. That makes sense, that's the direction we're going.
Starting point is 00:30:56 She's a host on The Talk, I believe, and then she was also a Cheetah Girl. Yeah. She dated Rob Kardashian. Oh, she's on The Real. Yes, of course, yes, of course. On The Real, sorry. Think about it, like, you it, these letters that I showed,
Starting point is 00:31:06 it's cursive, how many people? I learned it. They discontinued it the year after. I still write in it. I don't think they teach it in schools anymore. That's what I'm saying. So everything's digital. The only time you see analog now is when you watch movies.
Starting point is 00:31:23 The most recent Mission Impossible is a whole lot like this AI entity taking over the world or that other movie with Sandra Bullock where the world ends because someone hacks the system and all our cars and computers and everything that we have is that is all connected to shuts down and we don't have control over anything. But analog works.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So like in this, but like a clock would still work, right? An analog clock. So like in this, but like a clock would still work, right? An analog clock. But other than that, we have, we have basically discontinued the need for it. So as crazy as that sounds, but like that's, it's not even that crazy, which is crazy. I mean, there is, so I mean, you have a good point with like phones controlling
Starting point is 00:31:58 everything, cause there's a scam going on right now where people will send free packages to other people. And then they include a QR code that says like, scan QR code to see who sent this and basically gives them access to your phone and then they wipe your bank accounts and they control everything on your phone. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:32:14 People are awful. Yeah. If you don't recognize numbers, do not open shit. Nope. If it ever comes to you as a new thread, spam. Delete. Yep. Nope, I don't even open nails. The IRS will never call you.
Starting point is 00:32:29 They will show up at your door and they'll knock. I almost fell for that once. Really? And I was like, wait, almost, almost. And then I was like, wait. And then I regretted it. Then I just kind of didn't call him back. What I wanted to do is like keep him on the phone for like an hour and just like talk to him and make,
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Starting point is 00:35:43 And the one that I feel the most comfortable and safe making is using huggies for our daughter River. I always tell Nick that when River's crying she's trying to tell us something and that's the case with most babies. They express it through cries and so we've turned to huggies. The new Huggies Skin Essentials are here. A brand new dermatologist approved line of diapers, wipes, and pull-ups training pants that are all designed with baby sensitive skin in mind. Their wipes are so thick and pH balanced to help maintain healthy skin. Their wipes have zero harsh ingredients for a great gentle clean. The Skin Essential Diapers features the Skin
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Starting point is 00:36:47 Which I love. Are they going to be roller skating? Do they roller skate at Sonic? Sonic no longer roller skates because it's a liability, I will say. They just figured that out? I think it's been a while. It's been a while, but I'm sure they do at some of them. The ocean water and mozzarella sticks from Sonic is a household staple mess up sonic ocean water
Starting point is 00:37:07 That's the blue slushy. I don't drink it, but I'm a gosh. I just know they're famous for a cherry lime aid That's all I know we've become a no fun society We can't even roller skate anymore because everyone's afraid of being sued my sister used to work at sonic and she would roller skate to the car We just have so many more laws and rules and they're like whether it's misdemeanor or you know federal crimes, federal crimes or whatever, there's just so many more things that we're saying, no, can't do that. Nope. Can't do that. Nope. Can't. Sonic not rollerskating really set you off. That was a no, it's just like a slippery slope. To be fair, though, it starts with roller skates. Okay. Well, starts with my freedoms. To be fair, if I felt players can dance and celebrate touchdowns, no fun, no fun.
Starting point is 00:37:45 If I was if I was serving, I would not want to be on roller skates, though. That's a setup. Not on me. Well, you don't take the job if you can't roller skate. But I can roller skate and I would never take that job. I'm like, that's a setup for me to spill the food on me. Someone's filming me next thing you know, on viral. I'm like, OK, no. Yeah, maybe it's not a job for you, Justin, but for the people who can,
Starting point is 00:38:04 who do feel comfortable, yeah. You don't go to Sonic and have someone roller skate and twirl while bringing your food and not give them a little bit of a tip. Like the expectation is they're gonna make a little bit more. Do you feel so passionately about this because you're a professional roller skater? Is that what's happening right now?
Starting point is 00:38:21 He can skate backwards, I can't. I think it's a beautiful sport. Yeah, you're the only one that's qualified for this job right now? He can skate backwards, I can't. I think it's a beautiful sport. Yeah, you're the only one that's qualified for this job right now. You know what, this reminds me, I have- Nick one time made me, when we were just like, secretly seeing each other, and I flew to Venice, he made me record him roller skating.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I think I saw the video. That's when I was like- The videos are cool. I was still in the, like, I'm probably never, this is probably gonna be the last time I'm gonna see her again. You're gonna be just like, I was still in the like, I'm probably never, this is probably gonna be the last time I'm gonna see her again. This is who I am. And I'm like, I need to post some shit. I haven't posted it yet.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm like, can you film it? You were in your skinny jeans era too. That's confidence right there. Do you remember when? Like I pulled that shit off. I made her film me roller skating. And look who's your wife now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Hey, well, no, do you remember when I was in your apartment in Venice, and this was like one of like the first few times we were seeing each other. This was in the middle of COVID, and Nick was doing some like workout video with GMA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ginger Z asked me like, he's like, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:23 it was like even GMA was like, what the fuck do we do for programming? And so it was some kind of live stream, I don't even know, it was some GMA related, Ginger Z was doing it, and I had worked out with a GMA team once when I did a bit for them in New York, and we did like a Orange Theory class or whatever, and I was posting workout videos, so Ginger's like, will you do a live with like with GMA?
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm like, okay, sure. But fuck it. And like, I would just like did high knees and jumping jacks for 15 minutes or whatever. And Nick was like, you have to hide in my bedroom because like, obviously- I was living in this really small bungalow on Venice beach and like, there was no fucking space and like-
Starting point is 00:39:59 So he's like hide in the bedroom and don't come out. I'm like, okay, cool. Like fine. So I was in the bedroom. Well then turns out Nick has had mirrors behind him. And I was like moving around in the bedroom and the door was open and people were like, who the fuck is in his bedroom?
Starting point is 00:40:15 And it was me. The reveal. I wonder if you could ever find that. The reveal. We should find that. That's true. We should find that. I had a tipping epiff in the other week, which reminds me.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You know how nowadays, I think a lot of people, including myself, were like, what the fuck is going on? We're like, you go grocery shopping, you get a cup of coffee, you literally go anywhere, and all of these credit card machines
Starting point is 00:40:37 just immediately ask for a tip. Some of them are pre-programmed to make you not tip them. The default is 20% or whatever, and you have to say, no, you didn't do anything, no tip. And I think there's a lot of social anxiety around a lot of people being like, I wanna tip people who deserve a tip,
Starting point is 00:40:59 but damn, everyone's just asking for a tip. But you know what I've decided? I think that's, I say good for them. I really do. I have changed my mind. I have switched teams. I've gone from like, why is everyone asking for a tip? This is like kind of like ridiculous to like,
Starting point is 00:41:13 why the fuck not? It is like our job not to feel uncomfortable when someone is just like willing to ask for a tip. Hey, listen, we're always telling people to shoot their shot. All you can do is ask. And this is all people are just asking. Whether it's a barista or whether it's
Starting point is 00:41:26 your, it's whether it's your grocer at a grocery store, if they want to make your experience more delightful, where you feel like, you know what, I will, you know, fuck it. Hell yeah. 20%. Like given that they, now everyone has an opportunity to earn more and whether we want to give them more or not, like that's entirely up to us. It's like, it just comes down to down to whether there's an expectation or not.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I do think it's ridiculous, but I also think that- I say good for them. I don't, but I also think that it's like, there is so much anxiety with clicking no tip, because you're like, oh my God, are they gonna not make my drink as good as they possibly could, because they see no tip. They are, and that gives me anxiety
Starting point is 00:42:04 when they turn that thing and they're like this. See, I have decided like that's on us, the consumer, to like, that's just setting a boundary. That's being comfortable with like not everyone thinking you're the greatest person of all time. That's just a thought. Just a thought. I'm glad you're pro NIFA, baby. You're pro tip, tip, tip, tip.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And? No, they... Most of the time I say no. Really? I mean, I always take my- So you want them to shoot their shot, but you're always gonna say no. I always tip my weight or 20%, often more. Like, even if you're shitty, it's like, all right, fine, I guess you get 20%.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. You brought me my food. But like, I'm not always gonna tip my cashier at a grocery store. But the machine's welcome to ask, but every once in a while, I'm like, you know what? I don't know why, but you are delightful. You get like a wild hair up your ass. Yeah, and I just wanna, maybe they got me out of my funk,
Starting point is 00:42:59 maybe they asked me how my day was, they tried to make a connection, who fucking knows? But like, I was like, you know what, tip. And I say good for them for having the opportunity. And like, for some people are just like, I don't know, I didn't sign up to fucking be a connector. I signed up to fucking like take people's money. That's one person's perception of their job.
Starting point is 00:43:17 The other person would be like, well, fuck, if I can earn tips, I'm gonna fucking do a dance. But do you think they get that, or do you think they share it between the 40 people they have working? To each their own. Yeah, that's another question. They're carrying it all.
Starting point is 00:43:29 They probably share it. What if they have to share it with the cheese person who, you know. So you're saying that a tip is not a phantom tax? I think if you want to earn a tip, you have every right to earn a tip and I say good for you for earning it. I do wonder, what is Gen Alpha? What is their minimum wage? Because they're carrying slang on their back,
Starting point is 00:43:51 creating new words that I'm like, y'all deserve a tip at this point. Just so you know. Gen Alpha. Gen Alpha. Not even me, Gen Alpha below me. Gen Alpha says that stealing is now called a phantom tax. The phantom tax.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Interesting. A phantom tax, apparently. How did, in what age is Jen Alpha? When does Gen Z stop? I think they're below 10. Who is Jen Alpha? Below 10, why do you? Who is Jen Alpha?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Jen Z is 1997 to 2000, oh sorry, yeah right, Jen Alpha. Sorry. Jen Alpha's 2000. I'm so sorry, I thought we were talking about a woman named Jennifer Alpha. I am so sorry, this whole time I'm like, is she a housewife? I was so confused. Really? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah, okay, good to know. All right, Jennifer Alpha's 2010 to 2024. All right, so River. Yeah, River. And these children are saying that stealing, these children know about tax? What's crazy is that 10 year olds have their own slang. It's just like, and that is,
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'm gonna sound like the old curmudgeon-y guy who is just like everything. And maybe that's it, maybe I'm just getting fucking older and just like when I was younger, I was like why are these people older? They just not wanna adapt to things changing. There's a little bit of that, but it's more about the 10,
Starting point is 00:45:01 why are 10 year olds, 10 year olds, are coming up with their own slang because 10 year olds are connecting with other 10 year olds online? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is that a good thing? As a Gen Z person, I look at some of these and I'm like, I don't know who made that up where you got this. But I mean, y'all are creative.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They're using because they're 10 because like drunk elephants giving them something. That's for sure. I'm kind of shocked that Jen Alpha. She's so sweet and I love her, but I'm so shocked that they're stealing. I thought that was definitely... Yeah, why is Jen Alpha stealing? Right? That feels like old school. Don't they all just have credit cards by now? Oh no, they're just referring to, instead of saying stealing, where I was asking,
Starting point is 00:45:40 do you think that asking for a tip would be considered a phantom tax? Do you think it's stealing and getting a little extra on the side? that's that's what Jen office says these days And like basically there was this Instagram influencer who posted a video with her son who is Jen alpha and she Go ahead, please. I just but that seems fucked. I mean, okay. I'm gonna like I'm like ten-year-olds. This is crazy We realize what you're saying. We'll go back to Phantom tax So basically she posted the video and she would say like a millennial term that's slaying in her words, and then he would say the gen alpha version of it. So, Siri, you can read the millennial ones.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'll do the gen alpha. Loser. Ohio. Not cool. Wait, why is why is why is the entire state of Ohio now the new name for loser? I have no idea. But I said I was like, from my emo days in high school, Ohio was for lovers. Because Wisconsin is too hard to say. And now it means loser. Not cool.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Negative aura. Acting weird. Tweaking. Trying to look good. Mewing. Someone you don't like. Op. Something that's really good.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Podium. Someone who's liked by everyone. Infinite aura. Weak. Beta. A girl who just posts good. Podium. Someone who's liked by everyone. Infinite aura. Weak. Beta. A girl who just posts selfies. Bop. Stealing.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Phantom tax. What? Phantom tax. Can we talk about, I think they're saying stealing is good. I think they are too. Cause I think they- Cause like if you steal something, like Phantom tax.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Can we pull up millennial to Gen Z words? I think Natalie, you and I can create them. So, Sierra, like read these terms and then we'll say what it is. Loser. Boof. Boof? Boof, like you're a boof.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Like stop being boof. Oh, I've never heard that one before. Loser, I think I would say. Loser. Whack. I feel like loser is like. Whack, maybe? Oh, whack is.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Okay. I feel like loser's. Loser stands on his own... Okay. I feel like Losers... Loser stands on its own. Yeah, I feel like it's a timeless. It's like a Navy suit. It's pretty timeless, yeah. Or a bliff. Not cool.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Weird. Not cool, they're not... Funny, weird. Cool. Maybe you're just not... Maybe I'm just not with the... You're not a cultural innovator. You for sure have one for the next one.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I'm not. Acting weird. Jen Alpha says, tweakin'. I think think Jenzy says ew. Ew, yeah. Ew. Maybe I think there's a lot of words I'm forgetting, but I think there's probably an article somewhere that breaks this down. For sure, that's not fun.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I would say acting weird is off. Like you're acting off, like you seem off. That sounds like a millennial. That's what I'm saying, I'm the millennial. That's giving millennial, yeah, yeah. I just can fuck myself. I am a millennial. It's gotta I'm saying, I'm the millennial. That's giving millennial, yeah, yeah. I just give a fuck myself.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I am a millennial. It's gotta be cooler. It's gotta be like, what's one? Acting weird? Ew, yuck. An ick. They're an ick. I don't know. Trying to look good.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Looks maxing. Maxing? Oh my gosh. Posing. I know, see, that's millennial. I think that's what we were saying in middle school. We're such a poser. Either way. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Do you wanna keep going? Well, I will say for the one where someone who likes, who, what? Someone who's liked by everyone. They said infinite aura. Why are we getting spiritual? Look at that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 What does that mean? And do they even know how to spell aura because it's a little confusing. Like is the popular just not that good anymore? I guess not. Are you only popular? Just say pick me. Right? Pick me.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. Everyone who's liked by anyone, you know, like someone that someone's going to hate in two years. That was stupid. Yeah. I just think it's too literal. I wonder if Androia with the finger guns is a Gen Alpha. Like I wonder if she saw a Gen Alpha
Starting point is 00:49:06 and was like, yes, that's it. But did you see Leah and Cassie both made the same video? Before she did it, right? They mocking, were they mocking her? Yeah. I'm all for it as long as everyone's actually having fun. Well, Andrea posted another one and it was like, please, it was in quotes, like, like please stop posting and then she did spin and
Starting point is 00:49:27 Finger guns and said no which I love for her. Yeah, and it got like zillion Views and likes and like, you know, I say good for her Like she has found a way to be a part of the conversation Even after the shit show has ended and clearly she seems to be wanting to do that. A lot of people trolling her though. Might say good for her. Yeah, she's gonna have a time at the reunion.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah. So, interesting to see what's gonna happen. Do we know if Kane and Sierra are gonna be at the reunion? They have to at this point, right? I mean, the way that they've been yapping. I don't think they're gonna reward that type of behavior. Yeah, they probably wouldn't. I guess Kane doesn't have a storyline, too.
Starting point is 00:50:05 It's Peacock. I do wonder if Schwartz is moving into Sandoval's house. Because Schwartz was posting on his story the other day, like with moving boxes and going onwards and upwards. I don't think moving into Sandoval's would be upwards. If he's moving into Sandoval's house, then there's definitely a season 11 on the horizon. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So maybe it is. And then meanwhile, Bertnie's over here posting on TikTok, the Valley girls, except for Kristen, with a song going, we are back baby. But Kristen was there. Oh, she was there. I was about to say, was Kristen just busy? No, she was there.
Starting point is 00:50:35 She was there. She made sure. Not in the video though. Yeah, not in the video. And then she made Brittany post a story of her at the table being like, and I'm here too. I'm here too. I love Kristen. I do too. We love you, Kristen. Stop being a mean girl to Kristen. too. I'm here too. I love Kristen. I do too. We love you, Kristen.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Stop being a mean girl to Kristen. Honestly. But it was Brittany, so I guess it doesn't make sense for Brittany to be the mean girl. Well, I think it was like Janet's birthday. Maybe it was just a, maybe it wasn't deliberate. Maybe it just. It could have been Janet and Michelle being like,
Starting point is 00:50:57 sorry, there's no room for you, like, not in this frame. Yeah, because they were both at multiple events and not in the same photos at all. I'm less interested in watching if Kristen isn't on. Oh, because they were both at multiple events and not in the same photos at all. So I'm less interested in watching if Kristen isn't on. Oh, Kristen will be there. That's that's what we can. I know. I know. But I'm saying like these people like Janet, like I didn't I'm not
Starting point is 00:51:14 I ain't tuning in for Janet. Yeah. Amen. You know, she's not pregnant either. So she loses that trump card. Free game. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. She does have a kid. I'm just fucking with you. Throw it to I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. She does have a kid. I'm just fucking with you.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I said and she's ready to be eaten alive. No, I'm just kidding. Andy Cohen says his perspective on real housewives have shifted since becoming a dad. Yes, did you see this? So on his Serious XM show he said, my perspective on the housewives have shifted a little bit since becoming a dad. You know, I look at it a little differently, but man, let me tell you something. If someone that I didn't care for invoked either of my children's names, I would go as a mellow yellow as I usually am. That is what I would take for me.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And then he goes, Danielle from, so he's saying like he is a mellow yellow, but like he's gonna like do a 180. If you invoked the name of his child, he will lose it on you. Yeah, and then he goes, Danielle Cabral's button is don't talk about my husband pecs Mine would be if you mention my children in an unfavorable way, like I would go absolutely mental
Starting point is 00:52:12 I would assume that's just very common. Yeah. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense I mean everyone has their thing, you know Which is interesting because he used to egg on the housewives in the drama and now he's like, okay, like I understand Children shouldn't get involved. If the child is involved, like that's hands off. Yeah. The more life you live, in theory, you should be able to experience more with people
Starting point is 00:52:32 and then, or experience life and then therefore like empathize in ways that you maybe weren't able to empathize in the past, you know? Like I've thought about this too. Like I've had the, you know, just for me, I've always wanted to be a dad. I thought I was gonna be a dad in my early to mid-20s. I wasn't, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:46 And I think my desire to be a father was just as passionate back then. And so my effort to be a good dad would have been just as strong in my mid to early 20s. But I think my execution on fatherhood would be drastically different. And I think the biggest reason is like, I think my ability to like understand other people,
Starting point is 00:53:08 understand and empathize or just like, you know, I think I would talk to my children very differently if I was a father 15 years ago for the first time, as opposed to now, you know? And so like, whether it's Andy like having kids or other people having different experiences with other, you know, get married, like yeah, you realize that there are certain boundaries
Starting point is 00:53:27 that you have that you might not have. And part of that is to be able to empathize, you know, and so Andy's able to empathize now with the housewives that he couldn't before because Andy was like a super independent, single, top Hollywood executive, or media mogul, and now he's a family man. Yeah. And so now it's a it's kind of it's charming that way.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah, it changes you for the better. I believe I am trying to picture River as a housewife of Beverly Hills and make being like the grandpa that like has this like like one liners on the side. I could see a world where someday like I would like 20 years from now. You're a housewife. Me? And I'm just and I'm just like there. I would like 20 years from now, you're a housewife. Me? And I'm just and I'm just like there. I would be here for Natalie's housewife era. I'm borderline senile.
Starting point is 00:54:10 No, we would be the the the housewife where you would be like, why the fuck is this bitch a housewife? I thought they had to be like super rich to be a housewife. It had to be Heather DeBros, 60 million. I'm going to be Jen and Gina. Not in like this, not no, no, no. I thought you, no, no. I was like, wait, not Jinsha. I mean, listen, anything's possible. It could all go to shit. But like, you can't pay their rent.
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Starting point is 00:57:14 slash viall with Helix. Better sleep starts now. Zara employees are kind of wild. I went to one and the employee told his manager like, shut the fuck up in front of me and I was like. Employees in LA are a bit meaner than maybe ones in the South, I don't know. They're not there to help. They're not there to help. They're pissed that they're having to work
Starting point is 00:57:37 and they're in a bad mood or maybe they're taking their bad day out on everyone else. I don't fucking know, but we were in Zara and I think I get this side of me from my sister Amanda. But these two employees in Zara were just standing like gossiping to each other, not working, just standing there chit chatting. And we're ready to check out and there's two checkouts. There's one upstairs, there's one downstairs. And I'm like, let's just go to the one right here because I'm sure there's a line downstairs. And my sister's like, excuse me, like, can we check out?
Starting point is 00:58:07 And they were like, yeah. And she was like, okay. And they're like, downstairs. And she was like, where's, okay. And she kind of like looked around like for the escalator. She's never been here. She's never been a foot in this grove before. So she's like, where is it?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Anyway, so then she walks away. I guess they don't realize I'm with her. And the guy turns to the front and he's like, down the stairs, like where the escalator is maybe, I don't know, down the stairs. Like, where do you think that is? Where do we think downstairs is? And I was like, that was unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And he turned to look at me. He was like, his face turns like red. Because he couldn't say it with his chest. He couldn't say it with his chest. And he was like, and I was like, that was just rude and unnecessary thing to say. Well, you also didn't think anyone was listening. Yeah, and he was like, well, I wasn't talking to you.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And I go, but you were talking about my sister. And he was like, no, I wasn't. And I was like, well, I heard you. So, and he's like, well, I don't, but I heard you and it was just unnecessary. And then we go down the elevator and as we go down the elevator and as we go down the elevator, he's coming down the escalator and the door opens, whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And he goes, and I had in the elevator told my sister what he said. Of course. And she was like, oh, I did hear him kind of saying that, but I didn't know it was about me. And so then the door opens and he comes down and he goes, I wasn't talking about your sister. And then my sister was like, well, I did hear you. And he was like, y'all aren't that important.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And then he walks out and my sister goes, you work at Zara. I was like, why are you being such a dick? Like, what the hell is your problem? And I feel like I never was that person before who would be like, call someone out. It's like at the nail salon when you don't like the color and you're like, it's fine. I'll just live with it for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Like, I don't wanna like piss you off or say something. But it's like being able to be like, that was like, why would you say that to someone that's rude? So I'm really proud of myself for sticking up. I will say Zara employees are crazy. Cause mine was a checkout experience too, where it was so busy and it was just one person doing it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And his manager came over to show him whatever button, whatever. And he was like, can you just shut the fuck up for a second to his manager. And I'm sitting there like, I literally looked around and everybody saw and I was like, that is insane. To your manager?
Starting point is 01:00:09 That's crazy. The word manager, I feel like. Means nothing to people. I don't think it's like a word people you like respect. Maybe, yeah. I don't know. I don't think so. I did when I was at Trader Joe's.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Just saying. Cause you're a sweetheart. You are, you're sweet boy Justin. I took River to the grocery store for the first time. For the first time, I mean, like we've really managed being like only going to the grocery store when one of us is home and like stays with River or like whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:34 She's like, I went to the grocery store for the first time. First time ever. No, and I took River and I've been like obviously scared. I think it's like, there's this like debilitating thing when you have a child of like I'll just stay home all day because that's easier than like loading up the baby and going outside but it's like if you you really got to challenge yourself every single day to like just get out of the house and do something. And so I was like we're going to the grocery store and we went
Starting point is 01:00:59 to the grocery store and I carried her on my hip the whole time and just pushed the buggy and we did it. And I even was able to put my buggy back in the- Return. Return. Buggy return. The buggy return. And when Allie, when she first moved here, went online and expressed her disappointment
Starting point is 01:01:18 with all the people who were too lazy to put their grocery cart back. It's my biggest pet peeve, is pulling into a parking spot and there's a buggy there. You know what I did when I was at Trader Joe's? I would tell people, I'm like, you know it's bad Juju if you don't put it back. Bad.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I'd walk around and like in the register and I'd tell them it's good luck if you do put it back. Because there's that whole like grocery cart theory and it's like you, it's not illegal, you don't get in trouble, you're not breaking any rules, it's just like decent humanity to put it back. And so, but I said this a long time ago, people were like, well, just wait till you're a mom and
Starting point is 01:01:49 you have like a kid and you're trying to like put the kid in the car and the groceries in the car. And that's just so much easier. Yeah. And you just load up the groceries in the car. And then you, I did the same thing. I had her on my hip. I carried her to the thing and then went back to
Starting point is 01:02:03 the car, put her in the car and I Get I'm sure maybe times will be different. Maybe one day she's screaming and I'm like, I just gotta leave this car here Maybe I'll eat my words one day. I don't know but like for that one time It was a case though. Like that's the thing It's just like if you're online and you are triggered by someone like yourself saying hey guys Put the grocery store carts back and you get so triggered to like, but what if you have a kid? You're just using the kid as an excuse.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You know what I'm saying? Cause like, if that one time when River is crying or you just like, for whatever reason, like you just, you couldn't put it back where it belonged. Like you'll probably will feel a little bad. You'll move on. And I don't think- I'll come on this podcast and I'll tell everyone, hey.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And you won't be triggered or feel the need to defend yourself in the comments or in the DMs when someone else is like, why would you ever like not put it away? I think you just kind of outed yourself, whoever you were, person who- Yeah. I also love that people are sending me
Starting point is 01:02:58 teeth whitening ads now. It's like my favorite, it's my favorite thing to see in my DMs now. People are just like nonstop. And sweet Olivia Flowers, we know her, we love her. She sent one. From Southern Charm. She posted the clip from the episode
Starting point is 01:03:15 and then followed it with her ad. Sponsorship. Yeah, and I responded and I was like, this is so funny. Like, love you so much. And she was like, no, I literally saw that as I was mid posting my ad and I was like, fuck. Why do they give themselves away by like stop answering questions?
Starting point is 01:03:30 I don't know. Maybe they just like, they only have to do it for the ad and then like, I don't have time for this shit because that is time consuming. Do a couple more. Just say it and scroll through and answer the question. Yeah, I guess. I don't know, but.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Smallest amount of effort. Just, I guess now that everyone knows you outed them. I did. I did, I'm sorry. But it is, but also some people I think took it a little offensively. Some people were messaging me being like, this is so funny, I'm in the cult.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Some people have veneers and they're doing it. And I'm like, hey. I've never thought about that. Come on. False advertising. I did not know when Natalieellie brought that up to me that you can't stain veneers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:09 If they're done properly. You can't whiten them, you can stain them. So you can't, wait. They can get darker in color, but you can't whiten them. Why not? Or if you can darken them, why can't you whiten them? They're fake. They don't have the same reaction.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's what Nellie said. They're fake as if my response was supposed to be like, oh, okay. It's not enameled, it doesn't respond to the UV lights the way that like your actual teeth do. They're porcelain. But why can't they be whitened? Because they don't have enamel.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Because they don't have enamel. Because they don't respond to the whitener. You made it seem like the whole time I knew that it was the enamel that was being stained or whitened, it was this more like- What did you think was- Teeth. But what are teeth?
Starting point is 01:04:49 I'm not a teeth expert. I don't know my teeth. It does say porcelain and composite veneers can be whitened with professional bleaching treatments, but that may damage the underlying tooth structure if done incorrectly. But definitely not the ones you see on the- Professional treatments are definitely not the ones
Starting point is 01:05:02 on Amazon that are- But you can stain your veneers. So if you have expensive veneers, should you just not drink coffee, period? Or tea? Maybe through straw. I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Well, I would think if you had veneers, you'd have the money to professionally whiten it. Right? I don't know, but it's one of my favorite things to see. So never stop. Because it's even people I don't know, influencers I don't know, and I'm just always like, this is-
Starting point is 01:05:26 Are you positive they have veneers? It's not even always veneers, it's just like the ads in general. But there are a few people who post with the ads and have veneers. Okay, well if it is a cult, you're really in trouble, they're gonna come for you. And I will, and if I turn up dead,
Starting point is 01:05:38 just know who it was. The teeth whitening community. I can't wait to get your first big teeth whitening. I've never done a teeth whitening yet. Cause you have nice teeth. But that's not here or there. It's just. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I've just never done one. Do you think that they want anything to do with me now? They might be like, probably not. Literally fuck this bitch. She's like, come for us. I think I've, you know, yeah, I've just never,
Starting point is 01:05:59 it always seemed like the one thing you didn't want to do. Like it was like the most cliche. Like sugar bear hair gummies? Sugar bear haircare? Remember, remember, what was the tea? The toxic tea? The detox tea? The belly one?
Starting point is 01:06:14 Chloe did it. It was a... Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. It was something, yeah. Was it something to do with your belly? Something, it was a tea. Flat tummy tea? Yes, flat tummy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:25 What happened to them? First of all, like body positivity. No, no more. True. Everyone drink this flat tummy tea and only people with flat tummies can drink the tea. It's like, whoa. It's like the fog out of your tea. I just do a little add in really quick because it's veneers are made of porcelain or
Starting point is 01:06:43 composite resin materials that do not respond to bleaching agents in the same way that natural teeth do. Yeah, so it might not be just the enamel. No, but I'm a fucking idiot for not knowing that. Sorry. No, you're not an idiot at all. You both looked at me like I was the dumbest fucking person. I did not know. You're the smartest person alive. No, not you. You would never, Justin. These two. You're the smartest person. These two. I will say, Natalie, you do have you would never, Justin. You used to. You're the smartest person alive. I will say, Natalie, you do have the best ad read now. I used to think it was a scam.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Oh my God. Until I tried it. That's so true. Get your money. I could be like, guys, I literally was like, this is a cult, it's fake, it's fake, it's fake, but look at my teeth, they're so white. Just know if I ever do a teeth whitening ad,
Starting point is 01:07:24 the check was checking because I would never turn on y'all like that. I am loyal to y'all. Unless we get paid. Unless the check is checking. Then I do have to provide for my child. So mother needs her bag. Speaking of providing for their children, all the housewives of Orange County are popping off. What is Katie's problem? Is this like a just, she just needs to make a mark coming in as a new housewife? It's a continuation from a storyline that flopped last year too, because they talked about the paparazzi being called on Heather, whether or not she stage it. And for me, I'm like, why do we care?
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yes. Doesn't everybody? Orange County, it's been eight months and you're still focused on whether or not she called the paparazzi at Disneyland. Also, her proof is her texting her paparazzi guy. Yeah. Her handler and being like, hey, is there any truth to this? And him saying yes, I believe that part. But where is the proof? Yeah. Where is Heather saying, hey, paparazzi, I'm going to be here. That's proof. This like guy who works screenshot. Like, I'm gonna be here. That's proof. This guy who works for a paparazzi.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Screenshot. What is that? Yeah. Are you telling me that all of these women also don't have a paparazzi contact anytime you guys open up a new gym or needs to get somebody photographed coming out of it? You all do it. So I don't know why all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:08:37 it's like Heather Dubrow doing it is the worst thing that's ever happened. It makes zero sense. It gives fan, it gives desperation. Finding a storyline. Yeah, just not as cool or as good. It's giving Brian Rachel's ex. And the whole like, you were looking at my Instagram and then you turned around and didn't recognize me.
Starting point is 01:08:57 It's like, I had a nickel for every time even hearing a name and then not realizing I'm meeting that person until they're like, oh, so and so, like she could have looked right through you, looked over your head, didn't know it was you and continued on with her life. But it was like, no, you looked me in the eye.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And my husband even remembers this. Yeah, no, I get it. You remember meeting someone you're giant obsessed with and a huge fan of. It's just like, I mean, can't we just ignore people sometimes? Like what is wrong with this being like, I don't wanna talk to you.
Starting point is 01:09:28 What's wrong with being disinterested? Do we all have to validate everyone constantly, every day, in every situation? Like why is everyone entitled to like, just rant about their lived experience? And one of my least favorite things going on in the internet now is just like all the people, like what, like Sheena, Sheena did this to Candice Bure or whatever,
Starting point is 01:09:50 who, I don't know, whatever you wanna think about Candice Bure, but apparently Sheena was like, yeah, I met Candice Bure once and she was rude to me. It's like, who gives a fuck? One day you showed up and maybe you weren't, maybe she doesn't watch fucking Vanderpump. Maybe she honestly thought you were a fan and you were giving fan. I don't know. Maybe she was having a bad day.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah. Maybe she just didn't feel very social. I don't know. Do you have to tell the fucking world? No, I agree with that wholeheartedly because that's one of my least favorite things, too, is when people talk about experiences meeting people and then they'll be like, they were so rude and it's like, OK, well, what was the situation? It's like, well, they're having dinner and I just asked for a photo and they said no. And it's like the whole like Renee rap when they tried to throw her under the bus at Coachella
Starting point is 01:10:29 cause she didn't want to take a photo at like a bar having drinks with her friends. And it's like, let people just enjoy their life. If they say no, it's not a dig against you. They're dealing with other stuff that has nothing to do with you. Also like the, who have ever like, what is it? Cast the first, you know, who is not sin cast the first you like
Starting point is 01:10:45 You've never been fucking rude. You've never been standoffish You've never like been aloof before like also like it's called setting boundaries Nobody owes you anything either just because they're a public figure like or even a non public figure Yeah, it's like the people who are like I saw them at the grocery store and they didn't like hold the door for me It's like okay. Maybe they just don't believe in holding doors store and they didn't like hold the door for me. It's like they- Okay, maybe they just don't believe in holding doors. Or maybe they didn't fucking see you. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Maybe they're on the phone with their lawyer being told some bad news. Like you don't know what's happening in that moment. Just take it so personally. They take everything so personally and you just at some point got to be like, you know what, maybe it's not about me. And even the amount of times I've met people,
Starting point is 01:11:24 like friends of friends, and then like them reintroduce themselves to me after, you know what, maybe it's not about me. And even the amount of times I've met people, like friends of friends, and then like them reintroduce themselves to me after the fact, just say, okay, nice to see you, or nice to meet you and move on. It's when people are like, we've met before. And it's like, am I now entitled to give you an apology because I don't remember, or because you don't remember you owe me an apology?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Nice to meet you, my name's Sierra, move on. Hopefully we have a great interaction and you'll remember me next time. Now, if you meet someone a third time and they don't remember you, then- Or if you've like worked with someone before and then you see them again, you clearly know each other. But yeah, the whole like-
Starting point is 01:11:54 But you still don't need to tell the world. The whole like, you were scrolling through my Instagram and then you saw me in line, a line full of people and you didn't say hello. And what is more believable that Heather Dubrow, busy, rich, life, whatever, even if it's rich and boring, I don't know. But what's more believable,
Starting point is 01:12:13 Heather Dubrow decided to go on Instagram and try to mentally fuck with Katie and then tag her in a photo that she wasn't in and then untag her or like that is weird but what's more believe what's more believable that she did that on purpose or that like Heather probably doesn't really know how to use Instagram and accidentally like tagged the wrong person or the wrong thing that's way more believable that Heather DeBrow isn't an expert in Instagram and accidentally
Starting point is 01:12:43 tagged her not really and, if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong that Heather, in fact, actually decided to wake up one day and chose chaos and just to fuck with Katie, I like that even better. It's just like, I wanna believe that Heather woke up and be like, I'm just gonna fuck with this chick just for no other reason because I can. I wish that were true, but I don't think it's true.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I think she just like didn't realize. But Katie is so fucking obsessed with Heather. Leave Heather alone. And now Heather, you need new friends. Didn't Heather say that it was her assistant that posted it? Yeah, she said she wasn't running her Instagram. And even then I've seen that happen so many times where people have like tagged the wrong person in a photo
Starting point is 01:13:17 just based off of like, oh, that's H for Heather, but it's actually Heather this versus Heather D. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's such an easily explainable mistake that I am like, we're really reaching here that she's playing, what, tactical warfare games with you. Like, like, like I just can't. I do get the vibe that Katie was casted on the wrong housewives, because have you noticed she drops like so many different housewife names
Starting point is 01:13:38 like Garcels and Cynthia? It's like all these people, but it actually see. It actually feels like she's trying to like make herself be known by like, I know Beverly Hills Housewives. That's what I'm saying. Okay, but you're not on Beverly Hills Housewives. So like, why are we trying to take down Heather? Heather did nothing to you.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Sorry, I'm a big Fancy Pants fan. No, I love, yeah. Why is a show coming after its most elegant and their only real housewife? Housewife calling her penthouse the world's most expensive closet. Designed by Roberto Cavalli. Truly.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I wanted to jump through that screen and defend Heather. I was like, leave her alone. Like, what the fuck? And by the way, like honestly, like even if it were true that Heather called the paparazzi on herself, maybe she's just like being efficient. You know what happens when you don't call
Starting point is 01:14:22 the paparazzi on yourself? They take picture of you like mouth wide open stuffing a sandwich in your face. I know this because that happened to me multiple times. Like don't have your favorite sandwich shop. Be a place where paparazzi hang out like Jones on Third because you'll have a real lot of unbecoming photos of you eating lunch.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Like Nick filed down bad at a sandwich shop. No, but Heather's like, you know what? Honestly, like I know'm going to be here. I know paparazzi are there. I'm going to show up at 11. I'll give you a shot. And at least it'll look good. I was like, the reasons why I think they're so focused on it
Starting point is 01:14:52 was from last season. There were rumors that came out about Terry that were proved to be untrue. But they're saying that the follow-up was Heather calling the paparazzi while they were at Disneyland to take photos of them. So what? And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:03 It's like, they're like, even then, if they're trying to put a united front that they're OK, what photos of them. And that's what I'm saying is like, they're like, even then if they're trying to put a united front that they're okay, what's wrong with that? Like that's what I'm saying. It really makes zero sense why these women are so focused on. And to rehash it. It's like, that was like Katie's only storyline.
Starting point is 01:15:17 It's like how she like convinced producers to get her on the show. It was like, well, I have this and I'm like willing to talk about it and I have proof and I'll show the screenshot. Yeah, I was feeling like that's all you got. And also Heather seemingly, maybe Heather is presenting one big fat fucking lie.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I don't fucking know. But she seems to be the only one of the housewives in a loving, healthy relationship with her husband. She seems to be the only one to seem to have like a close and somewhat relative, like every family has drama and every family has problems, but like seemingly a healthy family home and everyone's generally with their kids,
Starting point is 01:15:50 you know, where all the other housewives, it's just like Tamar's daughter seems to fucking hate her. And again, no judgment there. I mean, I look at, at least I do, I look at River every day and I'm just like, I love you, you could do no wrong, but just like, who knows what life's gonna bring, and what River's personality is gonna bring,
Starting point is 01:16:08 and what fights we might get into, and no judgment and having difficulties raising your children. But when River's 18, I hope that River's still a really great kid, and then I'll be judgy as fuck. But until then, I can't really judge. But Heather seems to be doing a great job with her family and her husband and her life.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And it's just like, you guys stop going after someone who like, there's really nothing to go after. Right, it's giving thirsty. Giving desperate. We had a reappearance of Vicky Gunvalson this episode. Yeah, like just put her on. What are we doing? Make her a housewife.
Starting point is 01:16:41 You brought Tamra back, bring Vicky. I love Vicky so much just cause she's so like unhinged. It's like the first thing she says like coming back on screen is like, yeah, I took myself early out of the hospital. I have a staph infection, but I was just very, very busy. And it's like, what? Doing what?
Starting point is 01:16:54 Get that handle. Yeah, like that. Open sore. That can kill you. Literally. Mercer or something. But that's Vicky Gunvalson to a T. Well, and then Shannon got a letter that she owes her ex,
Starting point is 01:17:05 who's now dating Alexis, $75,000. For what? It says a facelift lawsuit, which I'm not really sure if he paid for her facelift. Or the lawsuit. But then Vicky said in the show that Shannon also paid for all the upgrades on flights, clothing, his paraphernalia,
Starting point is 01:17:20 which I'm also not sure what that's referencing. But I think Vicky was trying to make it seem like you both paid for a lot of stuff, so it should be a wash. But I'm also not sure what that's referencing. But I think Vicki was trying to make it seem like you both paid for a lot of stuff, so it should be a wash. But I'm also kind of like, the way that Shannon makes John sound is as if he was kind of a freeloader off of Shannon, but then you have Alexis on the other hand
Starting point is 01:17:35 claiming he's the Don Juan. And he would have paid for me not to go on the show. I would pay your salary if you don't go on. So it's a little conflicting. And then he sends Shannon, his ex, a $75,000 requester of lawsuit per payment. These people are professional sewers. I wonder if Alexa signed that one.
Starting point is 01:17:52 She named on the lawsuit. Oh my God, I wouldn't be shocked. Jen Studio isn't paying their bills either. No one's paying their bills. What is wrong with these people and their finances? Jen felt judged by the group because of her finances, but it's also kind of like, well, one of your friends put you in a house,
Starting point is 01:18:08 so they obviously know your business. You're on a TV show, so everybody knows your business. But I guess Jen's studio has a lawsuit from their new landlord for $133,000. I'm paid rent. Jen can't catch a break, honey. But only she ever pays her bills. She said she doesn't know how. She said.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I'm just a girl. I feel like that would be one of these sensitive things. She just, when she moves in somewhere, she's like, oh, thanks for letting me stay here. I mean, there's like not having experience and then there's common sense. Well, and even Gina said that she was in a similar situation and like, she was like, all right,
Starting point is 01:18:39 I guess I'll get into real estate. I'll figure this out. Right, there's a figure it out stage where it's like, okay, fine. Also, Brian, you could try real estate. Sorry. That was a call back for Rachel Lindsay. I was like, Brian, get your real estate license. Like figure it out. Sell a house.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Truly, you can always get that real estate license. I have one. Everybody can have one. He could literally do anything. Anything. And make more than $1,500 a month. $1,300. $1,300 a month.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Because it was shocking. But yeah, I was like, Genus figured it out. So it's kind of like, I don't know, maybe this is when one of those life coaches come in handy. I'd call a Teddy Mellencamp and ask for some, what does she do, accountability coaching? She is in later this season. But try something where it's not doing anything. Teddy doesn't rest.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I like Teddy. I like Teddy too. I like her as a person, yeah. I miss her as a housewife. T-Rex, I'm not a fan. Um, I also kind of think it's kind of crazy that everybody's so focused on how Jen spends her money though, like, do you think it's weird that they're like,
Starting point is 01:19:34 and I bet she'll have glam and it's like, well, you are filming a TV show. But it also is weird. You think it's weird? If you can't pay your bills. But then you have professional glam when everybody else does it. How do we know she's professional?
Starting point is 01:19:43 How do we know she's not just watching YouTube videos? They cut to her in a chair. It's also not as expensive as you think. Yeah, no. When you stop paying your bills and you start running debt and things like that, and then you still show up with expensive purses or designer outfits or glam that everyone knows costs a few hundred bucks at a min, you know, when you could do your own makeup if, you know, if times were tight.
Starting point is 01:20:08 It shows a certain type of personality. And that personality is like, it's not that you can't, it's that you choose not to. You know, you choose not to be responsible. You choose not to pay your bills. You choose not to grow up. You choose not to hold yourself accountable. You choose to continue to be like,
Starting point is 01:20:23 well, I don't know how to do things, but like you still know how to call your glam and you must be paying them because otherwise they wouldn't keep showing up unless you keep going to different glam people. And your friends see that. Oh yeah, maybe you're doing it for trade. That's true, free.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Could be doing that. But your friends see that type of behavior and it's just kind of like. Or maybe they know you're down, the glam team knows you're down bad and they're like, you know what babe, I get it. Like I'll just do it for free. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:46 We don't know, but that is a consequence of, you know. It's a bad luck. Yeah, it's a bad luck. And again, at what point Jen, I know you're down bad, but she's in her, how old, I don't know. She is old enough to learn and she is old enough to not keep using the excuse of I didn't know better to still be an excuse. Right. Hey, you need to pay your bills. There you go. Yeah. That's just the
Starting point is 01:21:11 rules of monopoly. You can pay on, right, play monopoly. There you go. Pay monopoly. Life? Ever heard of it? Yeah. The game of life. You can pay online. It's so easy these days. I do like Jen though. Some of it's kind of confusing sometimes. No, I get it first. Totally, I get it first. Well, it sounds like her husband's in finances to some degree. So. New Jersey. I'll be honest, this season has been kind of a bust for me, but this finale, it gave me everything I needed.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So what are your thoughts? They truly fucking hate each other. Like, I think there's a lot of scenes in Orange County, especially every time someone cries where it's just like, are these real tears, or are we just like putting on a scene? But you watching the finale of Jersey Housewives, you were like, these people fucking hate each other. Like, it took no seconds for Teresa to be like, you fucking slut, you're a slut, you,
Starting point is 01:22:00 like she was just like. Melissa did say the first thing though. What doesn't matter. She was just like. Melissa did say the first thing, though. What doesn't matter? She was just like immediately activated. It didn't go from like raising your voice a little bit to being like, but you suck. It was like as soon as she thought she was green lit, she was like fucking slut slut slut fucking horse slut fucking whore. Like you just that you could feel just the anger and the hatred in that room.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It was fucking crazy. And who was it? Danielle, Danielle and Jennifer. Just like as soon as she mentioned her husband, she just flew across the table. Yeah, it really activated her saying her husband has boobs, which did you? Also, he's like the best looking guy in the cast. Like, why is that so triggering for her? It's just like at any comment whatsoever about husbands. It's the slob. It's the messy.
Starting point is 01:22:43 It's that there's just certain phrases and things that you don't say in Jersey and think that you're gonna keep your face straight. It's just as simple as that. She said, you talk about my husband, I will lose it, and she did. I guess. An insider did come out and say that
Starting point is 01:22:58 they cut a lot from the finale too. So if you notice Danielle, when she threw the glass picture, you don't see any of that. You see her stand up and then all of a sudden, productions there ending it. So apparently it was a lot more violent in quotation marks. And that's why they were asking Jen Aiden if she was okay
Starting point is 01:23:12 or comfortable if she comes back in. Which is interesting to see because usually you don't see the scene of them being like, can she come back in? I want them to release a but shit we didn't show because I would love to see what happened. Isn't this reunion that they're gonna do, they are gonna show them scenes from this? They show them the finale.
Starting point is 01:23:30 So we know that things were cut because apparently they showed up to this version of the reunion and there was a lot that didn't get shown. They were saying it's more violent than what we saw. The cast. The cast, whoever that may be. So they thought they were doing something
Starting point is 01:23:42 by holding the footage and being like, we're gonna wait to show them that at the reunion. And at the reunion, they were like, it was way worse than this. Yeah, exactly. You do see Teresa jump out like within seconds though of like Danielle trying to throw the glass picture.
Starting point is 01:23:53 So everybody's saying she's a bodyguard. Which I was finding. I also love that they were like, when Jackie revealed. That was a big bomb, I will say. Yeah, no, Jackie revealed. She was like, you know there's gonna be proof. She was like, it wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:24:02 It wasn't me. And she was like, you know there's gonna be proof somewhere. No, Margaret. Margaret revealed Jackie. Yes, out of there's gonna be proof. She was like, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. She was like, you know there's gonna be proof somewhere. She was like. No, Margaret, Margaret revealed Jackie. Yes, out of Jackie. Margaret revealed Jackie and Melissa put the heat on Jackie being like, you might as well just admit it because I'm sure there's proof.
Starting point is 01:24:13 And then she was like, you know what? I did meet up with her. No, but I loved when Teresa was seemingly not mad at Jackie that all the other women were like, yeah, but Teresa, she processes these things slowly and the fact that they all know that like Teresa was gonna go, like Teresa showed up and thought, I'm going to murder Margaret.
Starting point is 01:24:33 And she was just, it was just all Margaret, Margaret, Margaret, Margaret. And then Margaret comes out and like pivots and like introduces Jackie into the equation. And like Teresa couldn't like, I'm here to murder Margaret. So like I can't, she's like, no, Jackie's good. And everyone else around her was like, give it 48 hours. What did Melissa say?
Starting point is 01:24:52 You're not over the sprinkled cookies. You're not over the sprinkled cookies but you're fine with this. But you're fine with this? And that was like season two. Yeah. That was so good. It was like the fact that they know Teresa so well.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Yeah, Teresa's brain is still buffering. She will come to you soon. And you could tell Teresa's kind of sitting there. It's like, no, I'm OK. She's fine. She's fine. You know, Jackie's terrified. And she was scared when she said it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That she was contemplating all life's choices at that moment.
Starting point is 01:25:17 She's like, do I tell her? Do I not tell her? Yeah. OK, I guess I did. OK, I did like Margaret's line where she's like, you subpoenaed the wrong bitch. I was like, oh, period. I did like Margaret's line where she's like, you subpoenaed the wrong bitch. I was like, oh. Period. Only in Jersey over a dinner table. And then-
Starting point is 01:25:29 Jennifer Fester leaving the dinner. Yeah, what was that about? She was like, you guys reached a new level of disgusting. Like, I just can't. Well, honestly, after what you said about like a lot of things being deleted, maybe there's no justification. Cause the way it was aired, it was kind of like,
Starting point is 01:25:41 I mean, this is Jersey house, so I was like, been there, done that. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe it was like when she says new levels of disgusting, maybe in fact it was aired, I was kind of like, I mean, this is Jersey House, so I was like, been there, done that. But maybe it was like when she says new levels of disgusting, maybe in fact it was. Because it seemed like these women were truly out for blood. What did Melissa say to Teresa to activate her so much? Melissa said, they learn from the best white trash. Well, I can see why that activated her.
Starting point is 01:25:59 And then she said, you whore, you whore, like Joe married a whore, my brother married a whore. Yeah. God, boy, that just. But Teresa walked into the room being like, I can't sit across from her. I don't even wanna look at her. So Teresa kind of did instigate him. Teresa started to.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Oh, so it was like a weird thing before that scene where like Teresa was going to Louis, being like, I'm never, like, you can trust me, I'm never gonna like mend fences with my brother, which was kind of like just a weird, and then they kind of showed the same thing with Joe and Melissa, where it was like, why are they convincing their partners that they're never gonna forgive their sibling
Starting point is 01:26:29 while simultaneously doing a callback to their father who has passed, which was kind of a sweet moment where it was like. Where he was like look after, yeah. It was like sad. It was giving like this is the last season or the closing of an era, because they were flashing back like all the iconic like Jersey
Starting point is 01:26:45 Girls in it too because Kim D was in one of the flashbacks I just kind of feel like it just like it was like a little bit dark to what was Louie saying where he was saying Like he's like, I hope they suffer like her son suffers like yeah I hated that yeah, he's usually a peacekeeper too, which is was weird I feel like what we saw there is the actuality of their relationship. Because I don't know if you noticed this, but every time Teresa's in the car filming, she's like, you're on speaker phone
Starting point is 01:27:11 and I'm filming right now. She's like, do not say anything that you'll regret and he has slipped multiple times. He gives me bad vibes. I feel like he's more of the reason for the rift and then he leads on. And there's so many just like questionable things. It's like his name is the only one on the deed to the house.
Starting point is 01:27:27 He's got private investigators looking into people. His veneers are wild. That too. But he wants like people's children to suffer. I'm like that makes. That part was fucked. That was so sick. That, wanting your children to suffer.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yeah. And then what a weird episode for like so many of the cast to have their commercials. Did you notice that? Yes. It was like cut to like a commercial with, well like the spaghetti sauce. What a weird episode for so many of the cast to have their commercials. Did you notice that? Yes. It was cut to a commercial with the spaghetti sauce. Melissa and Joe.
Starting point is 01:27:50 It was really cute commercials, but it was such a juxtaposition to this sweet, cute commercial with family cut to the episode being like, fuck my sister, you know? Jesus fucking Christ. I think that's also what I do love about Bravo. Their marketing is just insane.
Starting point is 01:28:04 They're like, it's fine. You could do a Chiles commercial and we'll air it on our network. Cause we're making money. Wendy's, Clorox, yeah. They're like, yeah, whatever you guys wanna do, that's great. We'll air it on our network and then we're just gonna make more money.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I did watch it on cable and it was funny cause in the finale fight, like every word that Teresa said to Rachel was fucking fuck, fuck something. And like the whole line was like, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. And I was like, I don't know what she's saying. Well, now that Jersey Housewives is coming to an end,
Starting point is 01:28:27 what was your favorite tagline? Cause I really paid attention to them, I think watching it this last episode. Teresa's is really good. Her's is the last one. There's some really bad ones. Can you bring them up? You can't knock down this tree cause that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Cause you know, Teresa her name is Tree, but some of them are just so painful. Okay, I have it here. Yeah, I was like, well, this was about building a bridge or something. I can't burn a bridge That's not bad And above your drama, well, you're taking cheap shots That's the one I really hated whose is that Jennifer Aiden that's Rachel that's Rachel Fuda. Yeah, that one doesn't make any sense If you don't have my back at least have a backbone It's like stand-alone business and if you're not gonna have my back, at least have a backbone. You have to stand on business,
Starting point is 01:29:25 and if you're not gonna have my back, then be able to say it with your chest. Also, still be directed at Jen Fessler. I feel like, as the season approaches, she's like, what's my intro line, what's my intro line? I feel like I've been her before, where you feel like it's at the tip of your tongue, but the deadline approaches,
Starting point is 01:29:39 and you're just handing your homework, and you just know it could have been better. Yeah. You're just like, ah, they're like, nope, pencil's down. I feel like that's Rachel's. Nothing tops Lisa Vanderpump's for me. She's like, feed me to the wolves and I'll come back leading the pack.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Or like, every day can't be diamonds and rosé, but it should be. What is one about dropping the crown? I don't know, but. Those are pretty good. But if you can't have my back, at least have a backbone. I mean, isn't it implied that you don't have a backbone if someone can't have your back?
Starting point is 01:30:08 It's kind of like. That's true. What was Margaret's about the screenshots? Well, you're taking cheap shots. Cheap shots, I'm taking screenshots. She is the woman of screenshots. That's not bad. I love it. That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Cause it's, but that's. There was something, it was Rachel's. I was like, it was, I was listening in the background. I was, I turned it on. What is Jennifer Aiden's? I feel like I didn't like hers. Friends are like bags. Oh, the fake ones are easy to spot.
Starting point is 01:30:30 And that's also not true. They make really good fakes now. Yeah, they do. They really do. And people are really good at faking things, by the way. Like they're your friends, so. Anyways, good luck to all these women if it really is the end of New Jersey Housewife.
Starting point is 01:30:45 It was quite a run and thank you for all the entertainment. But I truly don't see how another season could come with these women. With the same cast. Yeah, it's just, it's done. It's been cut short, they're gonna do a weird finale or reunion, like what are we doing? You can't even have four of these women in the same room together?
Starting point is 01:31:03 Quickly, can we just like talk about the Dolores and Margaret switch up at Margaret's house where she's like, I told you. Yeah, that was weird. She went from zero to 100. Yeah, and Dolores was like, you didn't fucking tell me that. Is it possible that maybe someone just didn't hear someone?
Starting point is 01:31:19 It's very possible. I believe that Margaret didn't invite her and she's like, no, I've said it in passing invite her and she's like, no, I've said it like in passing. And Dolores is like, it probably like hurt Dolores' feelings that she wasn't invited. And so she's like, no, I remember, like you didn't fucking invite me.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Like I remember this. Like you didn't say this to me. I am team Dolores too. Margaret's timeline also doesn't add up. Like we know that besides outing Jackie, it's like everything else she says doesn't like fall into the right continuity. And even what Dolores was saying was that it was like, it seems like you're saying this in front of a camera,
Starting point is 01:31:49 so it looks like I look bad, like I was a bad friend to Teresa, and if I feel like I wasn't invited to that, then why are you saying it to me right now? You know what I mean? Like, almost trying to, like, repaint history. The flower arrangement was pretty badass, though. It was badass. It really knocked Teresa down a peg. Just like, take it home, just get it off my property.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I think being nice, cause just like, will I ever have a moment so petty in my life being like, you know what, fuck you, here's your flat funeral arrangement for your integrity. Like it's just so epic, but like, will I ever get to do that? No, they're drinking someone's face, no. And that's what Bravo's for.
Starting point is 01:32:25 You can throw a drink in my face. You've said that, but I think it's like the intention behind it would be like, you gotta, the tension's gotta be high, it's gotta be like, I just did that, yeah, like, whoa, I just did that. You have to feel shame afterwards. No, I wanna feel like it's like rightfully so, like you said something, you'd get disgusting pig.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Well, I would never. Yeah, I know, so that's what I'm saying. It wouldn't feel good. I feel bad. Yeah, like I'd be like, I'm sorry, Nick. Can I get you a towel? I feel so bad. Well, that about does it for this episode of Reality Recap. We'll see you back on Monday. Bye. You

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