The Viall Files - E800 - Men Tell All w/ Isaac & Allison - Jax and Brittany’s Divorce, RHOC, and Armie Hammer Selling His Car

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Our 800th Episode!!!! This is an exciting episode for our football lovers, as Isaac Rochell and Allison Kuch join us to discuss the Bachelorette’s Men Tell All. Meanwhile, we talk about the Real Housewives of Orange County, Shannon Beador, planning birthday gifts, Armie Hammer potentially hitting rock bottom, and Jax and Brittany’s initial divorce papers.  “He’s back, and he's exactly the same.” Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Huggies - Learn More At https://www.Huggies.com  Seatgeek - No matter how many times you’ve bought tickets using SeatGeek before, Open the app and use code VIALL10 to get you 10% off your next order! Ibotta - Right now, Ibotta is offering our listeners $5 when you download the Ibotta app and use code VIALL when you register. Greenchef - Go to https://www.greenchef.com/viallfilesclass for 50% off your first box + 50 FREE Credits with ClassPass! Lume - As a special offer for listeners, new customers GET 15% off ALL Lume products when you use our exclusive code VIALL at https://www.LumeDeodorant.com  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @allisonkuch @isaacrochell @ciaracrobinson@justinkaphillips @dereklanerussell  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 10:09 - Household Headlines 10:28 - Armie Hammer 14:45 - Laundry 17:50 - Biggest21:50 - Corporate Cubicle 24:53 - Vanderpump 28:20 - Jax Divorce 33:52 - RHOC 51:44 - Welcome 54:05 - Dating 01:00:03 - NFL 01:06:27 - Social Media 01:13:46 - Football Drama 01:26:28 - Bachelorette Recap 01:48:59 - Game Time 02:12:01 - Outro

What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Rally Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by the household and this is episode number 800 That's pretty crazy it is the 800 episodes 800 episodes I've been here for all of them It is your show 800 yeah, I mean, you know, we don't make too much of a fuss about these actually numbers and you, you weren't. You were here for 799. That's true. Oh. Shout out to the Girls Gotta Eat,

who did cover for us not too long ago. And do we count in person? Because you were at the Lake House a couple times. Yes, we do count that. Yeah, I think we do count. Okay. We do count that. But there was one episode that I was absent from. That's embarrassing.

Just kidding, that was our wedding weekend. I'm glad you were present and not recording the podcast. Yeah, Ashley and Reyna did graciously cover for us. So thank you again to the ladies at Girls Gonna Eat for the one episode that I missed. Anyways, we do appreciate you guys for tuning in, listening, whether you just joined us, whether you're a new member of the household

or you've been with us since the beginning, we appreciate you and we look forward to 800 more. I did look up the meaning of the number eight and it represents achievement, abundance, and is known as a power number. Oh, please. There you go. Wait, what about 800?

100 times power. 100 times power. There you go. There you go. There you go. Perfect. Most podcasts don't get past episode, I believe, eight. What's the average number of podcasts out there, Justin? Of just that exists?

No, like the average number of podcast episodes per show. That's a niche Google search. Yeah. Not getting results. What's the... When I started this podcast, I was told most shows don't get to episode eight. No, I believe that.

And look at you now. I've seen it. 800. 800. I will be honest, I did think this was about me when I saw the balloons. I was like, oh my God, they decorated for my birthday. Don't spoil the surprise. I do love that it's for 800 and not for my birthday,

because I was like, it's a little soon. And also like, you know, we are recording Fridays. Like, what do we do Friday? But this, that Friday's episode that we're recording is coming out after your birthday. Your birthday will be over. Oh my God. So this is for my birthday also.

Yes. It's for mine and Sierra's birthday. Happy birthday to both of you. We're turning 800. Yay. I have a birthday coming up as well. Natalie. Well, not really.

Coming up? In a month. Okay. She's like, please don't steal my thunder right now. Yeah, like, okay. But she was like, we've made plans to potentially go to a Packer game. We've made plans.

Natalie made the plans because of a friend situation, we got invited to go to a football game. That's exciting. Yeah, love, love, love. Right? Love, love, love. And now they're like. No, no, again, no, no.

They didn't invite us. I was like, let's just, okay, good friend, friend of show Victoria Fuller, is dating quarterback Will Levis of the Tennessee Titans. Pretty iconic. She's like, oh my gosh, you have to come to a game at some point in your life. And I was like, no, yeah, for sure.

And then I was like, let me look up their schedule, because I wonder where they play the Packers. And so I googled their schedule and I was like, oh my god, they play the Packers on the 22nd. Nick's birthday is September 28. We could like do a trip for his birthday and go to the Packer game. And she was like, oh my gosh, yeah, I can like get us tickets from Will and like we can all go to the football game. and she was like, oh my gosh, yeah, I can get us tickets from Will and we can all go to the football game. Amazing. And so I planned that for Nick's birthday.

When did you plan this? Oh, like. Yesterday? No, like a month ago maybe. Look at you. So thoughtful. So prepared. And by plan she means, she went,

babe, do you think we should go to this game? I'll be in New York earlier that week, and so we will rendezvous in the great city of Nashville, Tennessee. And then last night she goes, should this be for your birthday? And I said, I would love that. And I go, wait, what part of this is my birthday present?

She goes, like me having the idea of going to the game and planning it. And I was like, well, how did you plan it? And she goes, well, I just did. That's what you do. You just like plan something and you're like, this is like for, like if you were like, hey, I planned us.

To be clear, I'm happy for this to be my birthday present. As you should, it's your favorite thing, isn't it? Literally, it's like, I would never go to, I would never like do this for myself. I'm like, I know. Maybe I'm actually gonna go to the Packers game. Can you watch River? Literally, and to make it,

and make things like even crazier is that I would be flying from LA to Nashville with River by myself. So like, and I would do that for your birthday and for your birthday only. I wouldn't do that for anything else. Okay, yeah, sure. You're kind of seeming like you don't love this birthday gift.

No, I love, I just, it seems like. No, I feel like you are scared because I kind of one-upped you and like you're nervous for my birthday this weekend. What it feels like is you benefited from the timing of said game and I feel like we would have gone anyways because your friend is dating the quarterback. So you're saying it's a gift from the universe, not Natalie?

Kinda, yeah. Well Natalie is arguably your universe. True. And I do wanna be clear, I don't give a fuck about my birthday or what my present is, with Natalie's birthday quickly approaching. Quickly. Yeah. Tomorrow. Not tomorrow. I know.

I'm just trying to set expectations. How can I benefit from the universe? Well, he's already been like, I said something, I'm going to get lunch with some of my friends today. And I know And no, no, you didn't know. And he's like, and I was like, what time? I was like, what time are you done recording? So that maybe like you could help with River. So I could like go and he was like, Oh, I kind of a long day.

And I was like, oh, okay. Well, you know, I can like take her, I guess. I don't know, but I'm going to go get lunch. He was like, yeah, no, I know. Because I was going to plan a birthday dinner with all of them, but they're going to be out of town. And I was like, oh, okay. He wanted his birthday gift to be plan a birthday dinner with all of them, but they're gonna be out of town." And I was like, oh, okay. I reached out to...

It's like, he wanted his birthday gift to be this birthday dinner that he was gonna plan, but... No, I did not, that was not the birthday gift. That was just me trying to plan some birthday events for you to enjoy. And I did reach out to the friends, and I was like, we should have a dinner. They're like, we're gonna be out of town.

They're like, well, how about we go early in the week? They're like, great. And then we were gonna have dinner, and they're like, sorry, how's lunch? I go, well, I can't make lunch, but I'm sure Natalie can and would love that. And then I didn't hear from them again. And then all of a sudden you're like,

I'm going to go to get lunch with the gals. And yeah, I wanted some cred. You think you planned the lunch? I didn't plan the lunch, but like the little bit I got going for me is being pulled out of the, pulled from underneath me. It does sound like Nick initiated that plan. No, because I was-

It may have happened regardless. I don't want to take anything away from the friendship. I don't know, but I did initiate. I did initiate. I'll tell you right now, no, because I was with them a month ago and they were like, your birthday's coming up. And I was like, it is.

And they were like, we should do something. And I was like, yeah, what should we do? They're like, let's do a dinner or lunch or something. I get to go to the Packer game because of Natalie. Which is amazing. That's amazing. Is that not like Connor? If you were like Connor, I got us tickets to go see,

what is it? Who's his team? He's a college football guide. No, I know, but Gators, Florida G see, what is it, who's his team? I don't think Connor has a team. He's a college football guide. No, I know, but Gators, Florida Gators, right? Yeah, Florida State. If you were like, I got us tickets to go to the Florida State game,

he would be like, holy fucking shit. Yeah, yeah, because I would never step foot at a football game, so she'd be like, wow, you really do love me. But now I would. Only for you. And I said, though, if this is, in fact, my birthday present, because I think we are planning

to go out to dinner with the newly happy couple. And I said, well, make sure to let Mr. Will Levis know that it's my birthday dinner. So if he loses the game, I don't give a fuck. It's my birthday dinner. I get to pout. No, I'm just kidding.

The guy who actually played the game, like can't be upset because- He can't be upset. Well, Nick's like, yay, my favorite team won. You're the best. No, Victoria and I were laughing because we're like, we're really setting like one of us up for failure

because like one of us mans is gonna be in a bad mood. Yeah. I can be an adult. I can recognize this is my Dungeons and Dragons and this is his job. So I feel like I could take one for the team. Not Dungeons and Dragons. It is my, you know, it's my, it's my, it's my getaway.

I'm just excited for us to just spend the weekend together for my birthday. And like, I'm really, I'm not expecting anything crazy. I'm just expecting family time and. Oh, yeah. I need to be family time. Great. All I want. Natalie, what's your version of the Packers? My version? Let's brainstorm.

Thank you, Jess. Yeah, what are your favorite things? Like what is something that, yeah, Packers. Like what is your Dungeons and Dragons? What is your Dungeons and Dragons? Oh, what is my Packers? Yeah. Nick's Packers, what is mine?

I don't know. What do you think my Packers is? Probably my daughter. So maybe you're surrounding around. I don't know. So you wanna wake up early and spend more time with her? Yeah, I'd love to. On your birthday, for sure.

I'll sleep in and you'll get out. I'll throw them out right now. Please, thank you. Shut your mouth. We do have an amazing show lined up for you today. The very charming couple of Alison Cooch and Isaac Rochelle is with us later to talk about some Batch the Rat. Mr. Devin does not go home.

I think we all suspected Devin might go home. Turns out- Fan favorite, got nothing. I think Devin's gotta win. I was pissed. I think he's gotta win. We'll get into that later. Yeah.

They are with us later this episode. What else, we got some household headlines going on. Travis Kelsey bought a horse. Yay, he's a horse girl. No, it makes sense. Did he actually buy the horse itself or did he just buy the like? I think he has an ownership stake.

Part owner. Yeah, and it's like Swift, what's the name of the horse? Swift Delivery. Yeah, like hello, duh, no brainer. Hors the name of the horse with delivery? Yeah, like hello duh, no-brainer horses make money, too Do from whatever army hammer? First of all, he's like come out of the woodworks and did did y'all see that interview? He did with Pierce Morgan. You know what? Bill Maher as well. Oh, did he? Well, the one with Pierce Morgan was absolutely crazy because Pierce is just like so and

Did you eat her like did and did you eat her? Are you a cannibal? And he's like, no, I'm not a cannibal. I have some crazy kinks, okay? It was really bizarre. But now he's selling his truck because he cannot afford gas in LA. And like, wasn't he a very successful actor?

He was. And don't royalties exist? Yeah, he was in. Like a lot. Yeah. You also, Justin thinks this is like some sort of bit. I think it has to be. Like a PR stunt?

I don't. This guy was on top not too long ago and now he is selling his car to CarMax and he seems like he's having a little bit of a breakdown. That is an interesting thing to be like one of the first things you share with your audience after like all of the allegations that have come out against you. You move to the Grand Cayman and selling insurance, comes back to LA, does all of these major

interviews sit down, and then he's like, I have to get, I can't afford gas. Like I think it's a little- Like garnering public sympathy. Yeah. I think he's going to come forward and promote a hybrid car because he doubles on after going, I'm going to just little like garnering public sympathy. Yeah. I think he's gonna come forward and promote a hybrid car because he doubles on after going, I'm gonna just get like a hybrid car. It's tiny and only pay like $10 in gas.

You think he can get a brand deal? I was about to say, I don't know if he can get a brand deal. Maybe not, but I was like, this is giving what's the car next and you're the face of it. I think it's giving a bit out of touch and a bit of hitting rock bottom. And we are seeing this is a rock bottom video.

Yeah. I don't know, it feels a little performative for me. It could still be performative in him hitting rock bottom. Isn't his family rich though? I think his family used to have wealth. I mean, there's been some documentaries about his dark family history. He's a family that ran out of money, or he got cut off.

I think he's broke, I think he's broke. I think that's true, I think he has no money. The shit he did was so fucked. I don't know if it was talked about enough. Yeah. I mean, I remember Paige Lorenz put out this whole YouTube video and showed where he branded her with his initial, and then he tried to deny that.

It's like, what? It's fucking scary. That's what I think I saw from the Piers Morgan interviews where it seemed like he was trying to revise history, but it was screenshots of his text messages and whatnot. And it's like, you can't now all of a sudden act like none of that stuff came out. And the videos of the woman tied up on his bed,

there was a lot of really sick things that were happening. So you made your bed, unfortunately it got exposed. So now it's go back to insurance And now like we don't care that you can't afford gas. I'm like happy you can't afford gas like you he's Psychologically fucked up quite a few people. So I'll say this how though if he is broke It's really sad because he has children. Yeah, and so that's really sad that like you've done all of this You've made your bed now you're lying in it, and you've got, what, three kids that he has to take care of?

Thank God, his ex-wife. He did reference his kids in the video, child memories with the car, and I did think about what happens when your kids get older and Google you? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then the confusing dynamic of,

is he divorced now or in the process of separating? Because she's on a TV show that's all about opulence and wealth called Grand Cayman. Which was weird because when that show came out, I forgot that it's out. It seemed like to be an interesting premise. We're talking about some, what is it called? Cayman Island.

The Cayman Islands. It's called Grand Cayman. This is called Grand Cayman? It's just about people who basically exiled to the Cayman Islands and they all come from some kind of money, they're all from some kind of money. They're all kind of running from something. There's less taxes.

There's less taxes, but like, you know, a la like very Beverly Hills, or just housewife-esque in terms of like out of touch rich people kind of thing. And Ari's ex-wife seemingly was the main character of the show. And the promo opened up with her referencing Armie Hammer scandal, and we never heard about it again. Now I'm like, fuck, do I have to go watch this now?

No, we were gonna interview her, but she didn't wanna talk about the show. She didn't wanna make the main thing the main thing? She didn't wanna make the main thing the main thing. Oh my God, brutal. Nice, nicely done. She did not wanna make the main thing the main thing, and now no one seems to be watching that show.

Do you think that I know just how much you hate doing laundry, do you think you would pull Channing Tatum? You would. Oh my God, yeah. So Channing Tatum has bought enough new t-shirts for an entire year to avoid doing laundry. He has or he did? He did. He did.

Yeah. He both. What kind of t-shirts were they? I know it says- Just plain white t-shirts. Yeah, it says the year was either 1999 or 2000 and he called it the year of the fresh white tee. So he was just buying like packs of t-shirts.

But my question is, was this an H&M $4 t-shirt or was this like a Kellow and Klein $30 t-shirt? How poppin' was Channing Tatum in 1999 or 2000? Not. He was just a, wasn't he a stripper and dancer? This was before like Magic Mike and stuff had come out or what is it, dance step up? His like breakout movie with step up.

I don't know, but I'm just saying like an ancient empty, like for four bucks, you get one wear out of it. And for one wear, pretty solid. If you wash it once, different story. He's avoiding laundry. I'm just curious as to how much was the t-shirts. This is giving pre-fame. And for me, I like that even more

because then I feel like he was like going to like TJ Maxx and buying like the five pack of like fruit of the loom t-shirts. And honestly, I said this to my boyfriend literally yesterday because I have a pile of laundry sitting on the bench in front of our bed. And I was like, I think I might hire someone to just come and do laundry, because I hate it. I feel like I'm always doing it. Whatever I need, needs to. Now I'm like making another load. Sometimes I leave it in the fucking washer

and then I have to re-load. Like, it's just, it's so tedious. Folding, the whole thing, it's one, like, I respect this a lot. If I could throw away clothes, I would. Just kind of do laundry at all? Yeah, but like, Connor's like a minimalist. So I'm like, his laundry loads are like one of mine for all of his clothes. And for me, I'm like six loads deep being like.

Nick is the complete opposite. Nick wears something once and then it's on the, it's in the hamper. That's me too. He'll wear it for an hour and then he'll be like, oh, this needs to be washed. If I try it on, it's on the floor. It's on the floor.

And so are towels. He uses towels once oh, this needs to be washed. If I try it on, it's on the floor. It's on the floor. And so are towels. He uses towels once and then they need to be washed. And I'm like, you have got to, this is a three use towel. Like body towels or like hand towels? Yes, you're getting out of the shower, you're clean. You're just wiping off and then it dries. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm on the next side. I use a towel one time. That's crazy. How many towels do you have? I've got a set, I got a set. I will say I don't, like white. That's crazy. How many towels do you have? I've got a set. I will say I don't, like white shirts now are expensive. Right? Well, again, that was my point.

A good white t-shirt. It just depends on what the shirt is. Well, so I did the math. If you're not doing laundry, go get a $4 t-shirt. But if you paid $5 for each shirt and then you had one shirt per day, for a whole year, that's $1,825. Pretty expensive.

Yeah. It is, but laundry, you know? Yeah. How much is it tag to do a load of laundry? It's free for me. I do my own laundry. I know, but you don't use any detergent. Well, the Tide Pods are what?

Like $20? Water. Water's free, but I'm in an apartment, so. But what if Shaning lived in a place that you had to go to a laundry man? Like $2 per load. Like $2 per load. $2 per load. I feel like he needs to give us more insight into this. What was your life like in 1999?

Can you remember, sir? So apparently the man with the world's largest penis is in this room. I'm just kidding. Ah! That lack. Oh my God, it was a joke. You're such a...

The man with the world's largest penis reveals the hardest thing about his daily life. His penis measures in at 14.2 inches long. It's a huge dick. Nobody does that. That is truly terrifying. He's the author of the upcoming autobiography, A Long Story, Life with One of the World's Biggest Penises.

Who, like, who's buying? But who's buying? Who is seeing that book on the shelves in Barnes and Noble and being like, I need that. The plight of a huge cock? I need that. Maybe a middle-aged woman. You think?

Like in like Bridgerton, but like modern. No, I feel like we're scared of that. We're scared of 14 inch long penises. But some people like horror films. That is true, but this isn't a horror film, this is a horror book. And it feels. Y some people like horror films. That's true. That is true, but this isn't a horror film, this is a horror book. And it feels. Y'all like your true crime.

Listen to some of his struggles with this world's largest penis. When he gets erect, he gets lightheaded. Oh, it takes too much blood. His clothes never fit. He is forced to buy a size up and use a belt. The travesty. Yes, he's a belt. You know, I wore a belt for the first time with jeans in a long time.

I hate belts. Because of your... No, because the jeans were too big. Oh. He's been barred from a yoga class due to his size being a distraction. Poor guy. And he's had stalkers and people send

creepy messages to him. Can I see this penis, please? I would like to see his face. And also, how does he know that his is the biggest? Well, apparently he is- No, I'm so sorry. There's just absolutely no fucking way.

That's him. This man has the world's largest penis? He could. You never know. Well, I mean, do you think God would give the world's biggest penis? He could. You never know. I mean, do you think God would give the world's biggest penis a beautiful face? I will say Greek sculptures, the guys had small penises

because that meant they had more knowledge, a bigger brain. Really? So that was considered like a gift from God. And the sculptors would always make the penises smaller so it would, yeah, to like show the human body and how beautiful it was outside of the appendage. I did kind of spiral down this because it was like 14 inches is excessively large. Too large.

Because, well no, because I looked it up, I was like, assuming that he engages in straight sex, I was like, how deep, and my Google searches are a little wild, how far can a penis go into the vagina is what I searched. And the average vagina is about two to five inches deep when not sexually aroused, but it can stretch to four to eight inches when aroused. Vagina stretches? Oh. Vaginas get boners? When aroused, will you relax?

How do you think the baby came out of me? Yeah, but during childbirth, but I didn't realize. So basically a lady boner is like the runway just kind of opening up for the plane. Relaxing. Oh boy. That's a lady boner? Some people have not gone to sex ed in seventh grade and it shows.

Is that what you learn in sex ed? Where the babies come from, how the body works. Sure, like fallopian tubes, the cervix, yeah, you learn about that. But what you learn most of all, what I learned is that you don't have sex before marriage or you'll die. Yes, Coach Carr. Really? I don't have sex before marriage or you'll die. Yes, Coach Carr. Really?

I don't know that. But that was generally a problem. Me and Sierra are on the exact same page today and you boys are like absolutely on one. Yay boys. Like this is crazy. Anyway, so what else did you Google? Just that.

And I was like, you know, this is enough for the end of the day. But in my head, I was like, the ratio isn't mapping. So it's like 14 inches and eight inches. Make that make sense. How? That's the max of like, going around. That's the largest a woman's vagina will stretch during sex.

On average, I'm assuming. On average. But like- I bet there's that 14 inch vagina out there somewhere. Everyone's got their person. Not you making it like a lifetime special. He's like, somewhere out there, there's a woman with a 14 inch. They call it the Grand Canyon. Waiting's got their person. Not you making it like a lifetime special. He's like somewhere out there as a woman

with a 14 inch. They call it the Grand Canyon. Waiting for you, sir. On a separate note, Natalie, I found this one for you. So basically a viral video of a mother claimed that her kid likes to play corporate America cubicle instead of unicorns and superheroes. That was me. You're the unicorn and superheroes.

Absolutely not. You're the cubicle? I was clocked in. Natalie wanted to be a mailman. I was fucking working. You're the unicorn in Super Heroes. Absolutely not. You're the cubicle? I was clocked in. Now I wanted to be a mailman. I was fucking working. You were a teacher though, not an American corporate cubicle. No, but it was like kind of the same vibe. Like I wanted to have like manila folders

with like my kids, like file paperwork. And like, that's what I wanted to do. Okay. With my students teaching in my basement. And would you make your mom like sign papers and like do homework? I don't know if I in my basement. And would you make your mom sign papers and do homework? I don't know if I involved my mother. I feel like it was very much just me and invisible people. Okay, so this- Show them, show Nellie the video.

My boyfriend's nieces, when I would go over there and they were like, let's say four and eight, I was very much forced to sit down at a restaurant and they would make a menu with their little chicken scratch. And it's like, do you want tomato soup or ice cream? Eight dollars, they would give me money and then they would bring the food there. I have to pretend to eat it.

And then I had to pay my check before I left. It's called imagination. I had a Barbie register and I used to play that I worked at the airport. So I thought that was fascinating. I had a cash register and I was at the grocery store and I was checking the groceries and bagging them. This goes a step further though,

because in the video she said during snack time he wrote his name on paperwork and taped it to his yogurt and put it in the fridge. That's really cute. No, but she was like, this is not an office fridge. No. Who was eating her yogurt? That's so cute though. Yeah. That's cute.

That's like either you saw that in a movie or like a show that they're watching and they're like, okay, cool. This is what daddy does when he goes to work. I think kid got it from mom or dad. For sure. He saw it somewhere. And the mom's like, okay, where did he get this from?

This is so crazy. And it's like, he showed him how to do it. No, I don't think so at all. You're such a cynic. I think that he saw it on a TV show or heard, yeah, the dad came home and was like, can you believe Karen put her name on that nasty granola bar in the fridge?

No one's gonna eat that nasty bar. And then the kid's like, name of it. And there's snacks in the fridge. And then he did it. Like that's how kids operate. I believe it. And I honestly wish I would have played American corporate. Cubicle. Cubicle.

Yeah. Kind of sounds fun. Like house, like, I feel like those are also games that kids play, like that stereotypically young, you play house, you're like five years old saying, this is my husband. Yeah. He's five and doesn't know he's my husband.

He's a stuffed bear. He made me a ring pup, he made me unmarried. Like, you know, that's what kids do. I get the mom's statement though, when she said, I was playing unicorns all day, here we're playing, fill out this paperwork or your animal dies. Like that's a little like next level, like you know what you're signing the papers for.

Why is my animal dying? That's funny, I love that, that's really funny. I can't wait for her to see River's imagination and like what game she wants to play. Natalie's like, okay, so today we're playing lawyer, tomorrow we will play banker. See what you vibe with. Yes, that sounds fun.

Saturday we're playing my birthday. On Saturday, we're having a job fair. Saturday, we're having a birthday. Go. You know who's celebrating Schwartz's birthday? Jo. Oh my God. Maybe not her birthday,

but the birthdays they celebrated together a year ago. What is she doing now? She's posting a montage of their relationship. Wait. Like two days ago. No, it's actually quite, I mean, that's what's so crazy about it, is it does like, it has a soundtrack.

But is he still? Yes. He's still in a relationship. He's still with Sophia. She is still blocked. Joe is still blocked. By shorts. According, yeah.

According to the text message that she read on her life. What is she doing? And she captioned it, it took me months to post this, but it's so sweet. I wanted the world to see and know how wonderful whatever this was. Wait, wait, wait. Guys, this is giving Halle and Sophia.

A little bit. Like to talk about someone else while they're in a relationship and like romanticize what y'all had together is the weirdest fucking thing someone can do. Or not even romanticizing together is the weirdest fucking thing someone can do. Or not even romanticizing it is the weirdest thing you can do, but just talking extensively about your ex

when they're in a relationship, even if it's negative is kind of weird. No. Posting about it, talk to your friends, talk to your therapist. Absolutely, I think talking about your ex publicly once they've moved on. Yeah, short of them doing something terrible to you and you just need the world to know.

But the romanticizing part where it's like what Sophia did being like, oh God, and the way he kissed me and then Joe being like, watch all these moments of us together. It's like, you are fucking delusional. You are literally living in this weird la la land. Like this man is in a full on new relationship. He has like respect, his relationship,

respect like the other woman. It's like, what are you doing? I don't know. I don't know, I need to watch this video. I do wonder if she's securing her spot on the next season. That may or may not happen. Yeah, it's giving Cloud Chaser. A little bit.

What else is happening? If they're, probably. Probably. This is really strange. The way, like imagine if like somebody that, like interesting, like if this happened with my boyfriend, for example, the comments that I would be leaving being like, are you joking? What's her Instagram?

Joe my gosh. I guess it would be, if we knew there wasn't romantic feelings from Joe, if we knew that like it was feelings from Joe, if we knew that like it was just a full on friendship and that they are still friends today and it is like his birthday, like, okay, that's like, and you're friends with his girlfriend and it's all just like a happy thing. Was this on his birthday?

No, I just made that up. Oh, but like that's okay. I don't know if that makes it later or not. No, that's, I think that would be okay to. Like a friend posting just like a bunch of funny videos of y'all together, more okay. But knowing that you are obsessed with him, knowing that he's in a relationship, knowing that his relationship like doesn't appreciate you

continuously talking about him and them, and you're just like gonna make this video. Yeah, it would have made sense during Vanderpump, like while it was airing. If anything in my head, I kind of sometimes want to defend her. And I'm like, okay, post it then, but like, now that no one's talking about it.

Yeah, I was like, that's like six months ago now. No one's talking about shorts. No one's talking about his relationship. Reunion's done. Like why now? That's really weird. It's reminding me a little bit of even like the Ice Spice Madeline Klein when Ice Spice made that video

and Madeline commented on it just like, why? Madeline Argy. Argy, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, she commented on Ice Spice's video being like, why? And it's like, that's what I would be like to Joe, like, why? Literally why.

Why now? Why do you hate me? Like, what have I done to you? Brittany Carrite files for divorce from Jax. And I said this to Nick yesterday where it must be What have I done to you? Brittany Carrite files for divorce from Jax. And I said this to Nick yesterday where it must be just like a strange feeling to have the world instead of being like,

oh, damn, like that sucks. You know, I was really like rooting for them or I really liked them to be like, everyone is like, thank fucking God. Finally, hell yes. Like everyone is so happy that you're filing for divorce from your husband, because he's awful. Did he get out of wherever he was in?

Allegedly. Yeah. Allegedly that she filed after he came out and returned back to the Valley. So I don't, it's alluding to a Rochelle, if you will, a rocky moment that like she's not very healed after coming back. He's moment that he's not very healed after coming out.

He's back and he's exactly the same kind of thing. And then in the divorce petition, she asked for full custody of their son, Cruz, with Jax having some visitation rights, and then she didn't ask for spousal support. Yeah, so spousal support was not requested. We'll see. Because I was like, Brittany was the breadwinner

for like a long period of time, so I feel like she'll be fine post. I can see Jax asking for a spell. Yeah, he definitely will. And just to make it as difficult as possible for her to leave. I mean, if he doesn't, I would, maybe he did learn something in his facility,

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but I've been seeing bangs all over TikTok, all over Instagram and like, should I get it? And then she captioned the post saying, please tell me to help myself and tell me not to cut bangs. Thank you in advance for your help. I think bangs, bangs are tricky. Listen, not everyone can do them and it takes a while for them to grow out and they go through a lot of awkward stages. Although I thought she looked pretty good in her little, uh, Photoshop. Although, I thought she looked pretty good in her little Photoshop moment. So she did.

I was gonna say, she needs to order some fake ones off Amazon, clip them in for a moment, and see how she feels. So she Photoshopped herself and posted it with Betty bangs, so the shortest of the shortest bangs. Well, that's actually a really good point, Natalie. I feel like wigs and accessories or clip-ons or extensions have become incredibly socially acceptable

for the ladies out there. So why would anyone Get bangs rather than just maybe just buying some bangs for the night Well, cuz some try well Yeah I guess if she didn't if if she wanted them for more than the night out and they they saw, you know I guess maybe there's some nicer ones more expensive ones But like the ones on Amazon are definitely like they're not the greatest, you know? You can definitely, there's a big clip on the top. Well, she kicked out her boyfriend

to spend less money on him, so she should be able to afford some pretty good extension and some fake bangs. I'm sure she knows a stylist or two. I'm sure Jen has a reference. Who can give her some really nice bangs to try out as a demo for a couple weeks. Yeah, listen. Why doesn't she do that?

So she looked good in the Photoshop? The Photoshop, but I think- I thought she looked good. But the audience was like, girl, no. They told her no. They told her no. Well, she did ask the audience to bully her out of doing it. Essentially, yeah. Yeah, that's, I've made that mistake before

of asking for strangers' opinions online, and then quickly you're like, nope, shouldn't have done that. Yeah, I do respect the self-awareness of being like, this haircut's not for me, but I still want it. Cause that's me with shaving my head. Like I look like a rat with a shaved head, but like I would love to shave my head.

Yeah. I would love to like do a real chop chop, but I would never. I actually can't. What's a chop chop? Just like very chopped. Yeah. I would love, I would love,

but I don't have it in me. I'm not brave enough. You should get away. She has my support. Yeah, Nick is like, you should shave your head. I'm like. He loves you that much. He does.

You can blow that one off. I don't think she should shave her head. But if she went real short. So maybe not that much. I don't love her that much. A pixie cut? Yeah. A little rosemary's baby. I'd still love her, for sure. I'd still love her. I'd I don't love her that much. A pixie cut? Yeah. A little rosemary's baby? Really?

I'd still love her, for sure. I'd still love her. I'd be into it. Okay, interesting. I don't know, I think I did like lower eyeliner on like my lower line and then my hair was really straight. Like, you know how sometimes you do your makeup and you're like, oh, this just is not,

like you do it the same as you do it every day, but sometimes it just doesn't lay right. And you're like, this looks off. Yep. So that happened to me recently. And I was like, I just like something about me is just, I don't look like me. And I just made a little story on Instagram being like,

I just feel like I don't look like myself. Like that's so crazy. Anyone else ever feel like this? And the amount of DMs being like, oh my God, it's this. It's because you did this to yourself. It's because you did that to yourself. And I'm like, okay, perfect. I actually wasn't asking, but thank you so much for telling me.

So you got a bunch of people pointing out different various flaws they thought you had on. Yeah, they're like, okay, perfect. I actually wasn't asking, but thank you so much for telling me. So you got a bunch of people pointing out different various flaws they thought you had on mind. Yes, they're like, oh my God, it's because your teeth are crooked. And I'm like, oh, they're crooked every day. Yeah. So. Not that one.

Can't be that, but thanks, I guess. Do you know what Bobby, the one that does the podcast in the bed and talks to people. Bobby Altaf. Yes. She posted a video talking about this specifically cause I guess she was getting a bunch of comments

saying that like her cheek filler was awful and all this stuff. And she just got up, she was like in her car and was just like, I'm just gonna say this one time. And then I won't say it again. But I haven't had filler in my cheeks. The way that you guys are just ready to like talk shit about a person you don't know

and telling me what I've done wrong and what I need to dissolve, all I've had is a little bit of filler in my lip and guess what? If I didn't put the filler in my lip, then you guys would just be talking shit about how thin my lips are. Dude, there's no pleasing you guys and she's like, you know, it's really weird that you're sitting around just like commenting the shit on somebody's profile. Do what normal people do, send it to the group chat, send it to your friends and talk shit about me. You don't need to say it on my fucking page. And I'm like, thank you.

No, that's very true. Thank you. That's very true. So good for you, Bobby. Where would we be without our fanatics, you know? Not getting plastic surgery to like alter what you actually look like in hopes to make other people happy.

Well, that would be crazy to do that. But people do it. No, even the stuff like what pisses me off is the people who claim they're professionals. I don't know if they actually are, but they're like plastic surgeons or they're this. And they're like trying to get a following on social media. And so they'll post like a picture of Kendall Jenner

and be like, this is all the work Kendall Jenner has had done. And it's like, what the fuck do you know? And they'll like show a photo of her when she was 12 and then a photo of her today at like 29. And it's like, no, I think that's just puberty and growing up, I don't know. It's not where they guess the ages.

They'll pull a picture and be like, she's 50, and she's like 28. Yeah, I always find that to be crazy. No, it is crazy. It's crazy, yeah. And it's fucked up that they think that they know what they've done behind closed doors, and they're just spewing out false.

And it's something you don't know. Someone who's not your client. It's something you quite literally do not fucking know. For a fact, no. No. It's wild. Not to mention that like basically every photo or video out there can be altered or changed through a filter.

And so like, even if it was just like, they're using a filter. Yeah, the shit people can do like on Facetune, it's shucking, shucking. It's not filler, it's just a $10 monthly subscription. That's all. Thank you. Yeah.

I mean, going back to O.C., I feel for Shannon so much. Same. So hard. What is happening to Shannon is disgusting. I feel like it's beyond the normal kind of drama and shenanigans that the housewives deal and the inner fighting of drama and shenanigans that the housewives deal and the kind of the inner fighting of the groups.

Like what is happening to her, I think is just truly horrific and foul. Yeah. Like what do we think of Alexis? And obviously we don't know what that conversation was and why she was so upset and like crying. She's just always been a drama queen and like lives for it. So that's also kind of where it's just a major eye roll.

You've met this man, you've been dating for a few months. Why are you adopting all of his problems as your own? Why are you attacking his ex? Why are you on a show that his ex has been on for years and then claiming that this woman is ruining your life? For anyone who isn't watching Real Housewives of Orange County, so Shannon was dating this man and she was in a relationship with him.

As often is the case, people buy things for each other in relationships, especially if your love language is like, you know, gifts. And then it sounds like something happened. I don't know. This guy is claiming that Shannon ruined his life. I don't know. I don't know what she could or should have done.

It doesn't really matter. Is it sort of her murdering someone? I don't know. So she was the breadwinner of the relationship at first. And then like towards the end of it, he had more of the money, is what it's kind of alleging now. So then he paid for a facelift. Okay.

And if there's- No, you paid for or he like, he bought her a gift or got her a car. If there is not a sheet of paper on a post-it note or a piece of copy paper or a notebook paper that says, I owe him $70,000 for my facelift, heart Shannon Bedor. Yeah, or I'm paying for this for you

and you need to pay me back. There's no talk of any conversation like this. This is like a guy who was in a relationship, says I got you, babe, gave her a gift, decided to pay for it. I'm assuming got things in return. Nothing's free in this world, you know what I'm saying? And so even if it was just the love of Shannon, he gave it under the guise of being a boyfriend

in a relationship like an act of gift giving, like a literal love language. And now that their relationship has fallen out of favor, he has basically given her a bill. That's crazy. A very expensive bill. And it seems like all his motivation is to try to ruin her life. He's emotionally bullying her.

Then meanwhile, you have Alexis, who is like joining forces with this guy, and doubling down and doing all these things, and I am just wondering, why is Tamara seeming to be in alignment with Alexis? I don't even care what Shannon did. What he is doing is spite in its revenge. and the camera seemed to be in alignment with Alexis. I don't even care what Shannon did. What he is doing is spite in its revenge.

And maybe Shannon has to apologize for something. Maybe Shannon did something wrong, but it is gross that everything he is doing is out of spite and revenge and trying to disparage her. And it just seems ugly and gross. Because she offered a settlement, and he was like, no, I need the monthly payment of the full $75,000.

And then Alexis now is saying, well, there's a video. A video what? I don't care. What could the video be? Alleging out of like the night of the DUI. She's like, there's a video, there's a video. And like, she's like, I don't even know what this video is. And then everybody's like, what is the video? But she's not showing the video.

What she did was wrong. The DUI, you know, she shouldn't have driven drunk. She obviously made a mistake. She seems to be wanting to like do the work to get better. It is not her ex-boyfriend's responsibility to hold her morally accountable and punish her. It's not his fucking job. And what he is doing is, I think, just fucking gross.

Well, it also said that, allegedly, the video's from the night that Shannon got her DUI, which it's ring camera footage. I don't know if it's like handheld phone footage, but regardless, I'm like, does that not make you an even shittier person that I'm like in the process of knowing that she was wasted and her getting in her car instead you're having videos or taking videos of her versus, I don't know, telling her not to drive or standing like, you know what I mean? Like we're just like keys. Yeah. You're sitting here being like, look at what a fuck up she is, but at the end of the day,

I'm like, you're the one that's trying to expose her for it, and then you're also adding legal trouble on top of that. Like, you want to see this woman's downfall, and it's sickening. And call back to Lisa Rinna, like when you don't show the video or say what it is, we're assuming the worst of it. Yeah, that was it.

Like, what's happening in this? And then you have Tamra sitting down with Shannon, like seemingly lecturing her about her behavior. The audacity. I don't know if you get to like lecture someone else about their life choices just because you've, you know, haven't been in a DUI. It just seems a little hypocritical.

No, I mean I think that's actually really fair and I'm also like Tamra has a history of just, you know, throwing her friends under the bus and just saying and doing the most awful things to them. So it's kind of like, I don't know, maybe like those in those in glass houses, like you're sitting here trying to like say that Shannon's so messed up, but exactly kind of what you said, her family's standing behind her. She's getting support elsewhere. She realizes that she made a mistake, recovery or, you know, trying to rehabilitate mistakes that you've made in the past

don't always look the same for each person. She doesn't feel like she has a drinking problem. Why are you so fixated on how many drinks she's having? If you don't wanna be her friend, leave her alone. But you clearly just want the drama, you want the air time, you want the camera time, and that's all it gives, because you don't really care about the wellbeing

of anybody or the weight of your words. Yeah, and it feels real gross, because we're seeing Shannon, you're just witnessing someone on the show. It just feels different than other housewife drama where you feel like she's being emotionally bullied by some of her peers and her ex and it's just icky. And her ex's new girlfriend.

Ex's new girlfriend and what could have Shannon done to feel like they're justified for treating her like this? Because it's not the DUI. Like again, they're not the police, they're not the moral cops, you know? Like they've, who are they to sit there and lecture her about her behavior? It's giving like bruised ego to me,

like from like his perspective or just like having things be talked about or maybe his like financial situations of her like paying for everything, that it like seems like this is his way of like retaliation, you know, or being like, I've done everything or now you owe me this and it's like the only way to like publicly embarrass her because she obviously isn't keeping receipts being like, well, I took you and she did say she's like, I paid for this trip, I paid for the birthday I took all of your kids and I didn't have to do that but I'm not sitting here being

like, okay, tit for tat, you owe me 10,000, so let's take off this from what I owe you. You know what I mean? Why are you complicating the situation? If I gave my exes receipts being like, all right, you owe me this because now it didn't work out, and I think I'm entitled to that money back, that makes zero fucking sense.

So why does she, do we know anything about the court case? Why does she even have to pay them? I mean, I know if he has more money than her, a lot more money, he could just sue her, regardless of whether he can win or not, he could ruin her by just legal fees and legal costs, and he could maybe just afford to do that. That is definitely.

But it sounds like he's not doing very well himself. So it's like, how do you have all this money to pay? Yeah, that is the question. And again, if it goes to like the courts, why would the courts agree to say he is entitled to any of this money? That doesn't seem right, you know, unless he has some kind of written agreement between the two of them. But it doesn't seem like there is.

Do you think that would get brought up? I don't think that they have any proof of anything outside of just like, I said I paid $75,000 for a facelift. She, I don't think is entitled to pay that back if that's what happened during your relationship. If you didn't have a problem paying for it then and you didn't put anything in writing, why are you coming back with your new girlfriend

being like, you owe us 75 grand? I think it's one of the cheesiest and sleaziest moves anyone can do in a relationship to seemingly buy something for your partner and then come back and say, you pay me, you owe me this money because your feelings about this person change. It is one of the slimmiest things you can do

because again, nothing's free. You didn't give this facelift to Shannon out of the kindness of your heart. You wanted something in return. Don't know what that was, even if it was just her affection. You wanted something in return. And now, since your minds changed,

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She won't. Welcome guys, how are you? But back to group chats. Yeah. Sorry. Didn't want to interrupt. All is well. We're happy that we were on time today. Yeah, I'm actually very impressed,

but we lied to ourselves to get us here on time, or anywhere on time. I mean, you guys are in the kid grind. You're never on time for anything. You're always like, okay, if we leave by this time, we'll get there on time. And then you're like, oh my God, wait, where is the diaper bag? Do we have enough pinkies? Wait, okay, if we leave by this time, we'll get there on time. And then you're like, oh my God, wait, where is the diaper bag?

Do we have enough binkies? Wait, okay, we need the milk. We need, and then you're just- And then you're like, wait, oh God, we have to change your diaper. Nevermind. Oh yeah, no exactly. Like redo all of it.

What do you call the pacifier? What do you call the pacifier? Passy? I say Passy, but growing up, I called it an uh-oh. We called it a nook. A nook? I always called it a bink. A binks?

Binky, binks. Binks is like kind of cool. Isn't it kind of cute? It's like a street name. It binks? Binks is like kinda cool. Isn't it kinda cute? It reminds me of the cat in Hocus Pocus. Who's the cat? Yeah, yeah. Binks. Yeah.

Yeah, we haven't really came up with an official name. I grew up calling it an uh-oh, because every time I dropped it, I'd be like, uh-oh, but I feel like that doesn't really roll off the tongue. Like binks. Where's her uh-oh? Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like pasties is easy. It's unique though. Where's her uh-oh? No. Yeah. I feel like pasties is easy. It's unique though. We do call a bottle a ba-ba though. That's like. You call it a ba-ba. Yeah, like.

She'll be like, can you give me ba-bas? She'll eventually be like, ba-ba. I'm just like walking around like, ba-bas, ba-bas. Yeah, but we make it plural. More, ba-bas, more. Yeah. Being a parent is so wild. Yeah, it is, it's so crazy.

So this is obviously y'all's first child. She's eight months, right? Yeah, she's turning nine months in like a week. My gosh. Okay, her name is Scotty. Yes. Oh my gosh. How long have y'all been married?

Three and a half years. I'm like, are we serious? Are we married? No, we've been married three and a half years, but we've been together 10. So it's kind of like, you know, what is... Yeah, what is marriage? I, we've been married three and a half years, but we've been together 10, so it's kind of like, you know, what is, I think we've been married for a long time.

I mean, we haven't, but it feels like we have been. Yeah, like legally married, we actually eloped on a beach in like 2020. So I'm like, do we count that as our wedding date? That's like four years feels intense. Yeah. Nick and I are four years. Whoa Really? Yeah, so like or no like just being together

Marriage I was like I swear I don't know when you have a kid you're like wait, what is the concept of time? Yeah, we've been we've been together for four years, but married for a couple months. Well, congrats. That's five years ago. So that's making 10 years feel like a really long, like we were 19. Yeah, we were 19.

I couldn't even drink. You were 19. Yeah, babies. So you were with him through college. Everything. The NFL draft. Yep. You really paid your dues.

I know. That's why I, when people are like, why are you talking about the NFL, you're in it? I'm like, I basically am. You're like, boy, I do this. He wouldn't be here without me. Like, you could have got Russell Wilson. I know.

For real. But I- I love how that's a verb, Russell Wilson. It's crazy though, cause when we first started dating, cause I went to Notre Dame, and I wasn't even starting at Notre Dame. I was barely playing. That's why when people are like,

oh, you knew he was going to the NFL, I was like, no offense, but he wasn't that good. Yeah, I was, I mean, you know, I was decent. But either way. I was like, okay, not good is strong. First of all, it's Notre Dame, it is a premier college program. And there's a lot of people who won't play

their first two years and still go in their first round because they're, you know, the players above them are also that good as well. So it's not like being like the top player at Wichita State. This is Norder fucking Dame we're talking about. Okay, okay. But I knew he was gonna be smart.

Like if you didn't go to the NFL, I was like, oh, he's still smart. Not that. He's put together. That is true, because I did hear Notre Dame, they don't fuck around with their academics. They don't care that you can run a 440 and be 270 pounds. You also need to know math, right?

Absolutely, yeah, math at a minimum. And other schools definitely, people don't really talk about it, they will do your work. Guys are taken care of from an academic standpoint. Notre Dame, you're in the fire. Like, our first date, like, remember I was studying for... You're like, I can't, I gotta study for Portuguese.

Like, how lame is that? I'm like, finally, she went to Michigan State. I'm finally meeting a girl, like, Michigan State girl, looks good. And I'm like, I gotta study for my Portuguese exam. Or am I? Do you speak any Portuguese? No. A little bit, a little bit. I don't. Where am I? Do you speak any Portuguese? No. No.

A little bit, a little bit. I don't even know how to say a little bit in Portuguese, so I would have been cool. So did you pass the class? I didn't, I found a way. I found a way, but we got it done. But yeah, that's crazy. 10 years ago, that's like, that's a lifetime.

That is a decade. Yeah, oh my God. It's crazy. I feel old. You might've had like a couple of followers. Yeah. I'm like, you knew I was going to be TikTok famous. That's probably why you- Yeah, then you became the famous one.

I know. Which I actually, that was like my paper plate award in high school. Yeah, no, I love it. I love it. So you guys, give us the origin story. Four years, five years ago. I slid into his DMs. Love a good DM slide.

Five years ago. And yeah, and we like met in New York a few weeks later and kind of started talking every now and then. And I'd come out to LA and did that for like 10 or so months. And then I was like, I want to date you. And he said no. And so I was like, okay, then I'm out of here. And he was like, wait, no, I love you.

And then he's like, I want to date you and he said no. And so I was like, okay, then I'm out of here. And he was like, wait, no, I love you. And then he's like, I wanna date you. And we started being exclusive. And I moved out here like two months later and moved in with him. Wow. A modern love story. Truly a modern love story. The DMs and then like, I like you.

Like, I don't like you, but I love you. No, literally. And then him being like, well, now that we're dating, do you wanna move in with me? And I'm like, yeah, I do. Which is also, it's very like modern too. Cause like rent prices, you're like, well, now that we're dating, do you want to move in with me? And I'm like, yeah, I do. Which is also, it's very like modern too, because like rent prices, you're like, why would we both pay? Well, I was also living in.

No, literally. Let's move in. I was living in Savannah, Georgia. So I'm like, I have my apartment here. I'm from Georgia. Side note. Where? McDonough. You don't know McDonough, but continue. It's a farm. OK, OK.

It's a farm. There's a farm. Yeah. And so I was like, well, I'm gonna keep my apartment in Savannah, but I'm not, I need to get an apartment in LA, and then I was like, I don't need to pay that. I only know you. I'll be at your house every day.

Yeah, like I'm moving in. You're right, no, I'm moving in. Bad space. I had something very critical which I appreciated. On a first date, I'm sure you appreciate, like all I need is the insincere attempt about like paying for the bill. Okay.

You know, on a first date, like I need the. Oh, for sure. The old reads. No, Isaac's kind of all about that. No, no, I just don't like, I really hate it though, like. No, but Isaac goes a step further and will let you actually pay because I paid rent up until he got engaged

And I'm splitting rent 50-50 I'm like wait this doesn't calculate Yeah girls are like why are you like continuing college? Like, you're getting married to Isaac. And I'm like, because I have to split rent. That was crazy. Like, I don't, I'm not proud of that. Like, I feel like I'm gonna have to do a public apology. But mine. So like, I know.

You like made her, made her? So. Or like, it just happened. No, it was a conversation before we moved in together. It was a conversation. Yes. So my career has been weird. Let me give some context here. So when I first got in the NFL, I got released immediately.

And then went on to have very consistent years, but early on I was like, yeah, I'm barely in the NFL. You were starting that year. Hold on. I'm gonna have Isaac's back here. It is a day, I'm a big NF. I love, I'm a fan. Talk to him.

Talk to him. It is cut down day. Oh, yesterday was cut down day. They had a lot of players and like, yeah, rookie contracts, like, you know, when players who aren't drafted and then they sign as street free agents, you know how much money they make?

Like a thousand bucks, some of them. It's crazy. Like make no fucking money. They're poor as fuck. They are poor. If you're drafted in like the seventh round, yeah, them. It's crazy. Like make no fucking money. They're poor as fuck. They are poor. And on rookie, if you're drafted in like the seventh round, Yeah, like. Yeah, you got a little bit of money,

but then you're paying an agent, you're paying all these people. Like, yeah. And then you can be broke real fast. You could be. I'll give numbers. So my, I signed, my rookie contract was $465,000. Didn't make that that year.

So like, that's just information. Is that per year or is that how many years? That's for that year. For that5,000. Didn't make that that year. So like that's just information. That's for that year. For that year, okay. So then I got released immediately and got put on practice squad. Again, ended up playing, but when I was put on practice squad, I was making seven grand every two weeks.

And that's only during the season, which is 16 weeks at the time. And are taxes taken out before or after? That was post tax. So like I'm making seven grand every two weeks. For a third at the time. Are taxes taken out before or after? That was post tax. So like I'm making seven grand every two weeks. For a third of the year. Yeah, and I'm like, why would I be paying rent?

Wait, okay, hold on. We didn't even live together though, so it didn't matter. I'm just saying, in defense of Isaac, at first, like just being in the NFL, doesn't always, it's not the same for everybody. It's not. No, it's not.

You see all the big contracts, but there are a lot of guys trying to get by with their future very unguaranteed. Now, yes, but things have changed. Rookie minimum now is almost 800 grand. So it's changed. It goes up every year. And that's one year.

So it's changed. And now NIL, you didn't have NIL. Yeah, but I don't know if I would've made it. I wasn't. But when Nally and I met and she moved out here, she did like the, I don't know if it was insincere. I mean, actually I never really asked her, but she was like, she was like,

she sent me like some apartments. I'm thinking like, where should I get an apartment? I don't really know, L.A. Big penthouse, you're like. I was barking. You're like, this looks lonely know. I was like, let's be real here. Like you don't really know anyone here. And I was, and I'm always telling people like, you don't really need a rush to move in.

So like here I am giving advice on the show. And then I feel like I'm being a hypocrite, but I was just like, listen, it's a risk. This is crazy. But like, what's the point of you getting your own place and be stressed out about money? I just bought this house, I need to fill it up. I don't-

He's like, I'm falling, I need someone in here. I'm doing just fine, I don't need your money. But I really appreciated Natalie not assuming that I would just front the bill. It was like- Yeah. When, how far into a relationship do you think you can stop doing that?

Like do you think I should be married like acting like I'm pulling out my credit card? Well now you're married, now you're sharing expenses. So you think marriage is, like what if. Yeah, what is the cutoff? That's a good question. I think if you're not married and you wanna split shit,

you have the right to ask. I like it. And I have the, I guess I have the right to decline. Be like fuck no, I'm not doing that. Yeah, but I don't, yeah. In 2024 with marriage being what it is, kind of like not what it used to be. Yeah. Yeah.

Anything goes these days. I think you're not entitled to anyone else's money. I don't know. I helped him get to the NFL. I feel like I'm a little entitled. You're a part of it. Yeah, we used to go out to the field, do drills together. No. No, that's not true. She was watching tape to go out to the field, do drills together. Yeah.

No, that's not true. She was watching tape. No? I was like, what is he talking about? She didn't know I had been watching tape. I feel like he's lying. No, that's not true. I feel like you're right.

Yeah, marriage, or like you're right, marriage is definitely the point. We split, I was petty though, but you did stop. We split dinners. She got to the point. You guys, we split everything, okay? Dinners is crazy. Yeah, unless you asked me out on a date cards on the bill and you're dating. No, I was big Venmo request

I'm in bed like Did you add the sense so publicly you Were you're like hey look at that Venmo request Three days later hey following up on the Venmo I'm over-question. Yeah, I'm like. He texts me three days later, hey, following up on the Venmo. Let's send him a reminder.

I'm joking about it, but I definitely, I was petty. I went through a time in my life where I was petty. But I also had my own job, so it's not like I was annoyed. Yeah, you were independent. I just said that if you wanted us to go out to a nice dinner, like after a game with all your teammates,

I'm not paying half the bill at Mastro's. All your teammates are throwing in, and I'm just throwing in too. But one could argue maybe that's why you became TikTok famous because you're like, Isaac motivated you, because someday you might need to make that bag. I made that bag because of Isaac.

It's all my success. If you got him to be an NFL, maybe he got you into TikTok. Okay. It cuts both ways. Yang and a yang. Isaac hated social media. I mean, my God, I'm out here getting torts.

I did. So when I first came out of high school, I mean, literally, like I'm day in the life now, but like. Day in the life now. No, I saw you at that John Legend event. You were recording, honey. But I was getting it for her. You were working.

Working. But yeah, getting it for her. You were working, working. Working for her. But yeah, when we first started talking, I was just like, social media's fake, which all this stuff is still true, but social media's fake, people spend too much time on it. So I didn't have anything. I was pretty anti. I mean, obviously things change,

because there's a way to utilize it. None of this would exist without it. But yeah, I was like, I was weird about it. Yeah, but look at us now. So you were like, hey, I wanna start just like, recording stuff. Oh no, I just started. Oh, perfect. She was vlogging. Oh no, I think I privated the video.

There's like a YouTube vlog, and it's of you and I in Vancouver. And it's like the typical no copyright music, like way too loud in the background. And me being like, hey, we're gonna go and walk around, and then you show me walking around, and then, okay, now I think we're gonna go back to the hotel. It's really cringe.

Yeah, this is 2014. Yeah. Wow. Like you've been cooking. You've been cooking for a minute. I gotta make money somehow. No one's paying my rent. Yeah, that's crazy to think about though.

Yeah, and now we're here. When did you guys get started with social media? And what was the point where it was like? I was doing this when we met. So I was kinda in the game, following the Bachelor. I had a lot of trial and error. I was roller skating. There was a time when Nellie and I were hanging out

and I clearly did not think that we'd end up together because I asked her to record me roller skating. Babe, the fact that I'm here today. Was it like a cringe? Like you're like, this is bad. He's like moonwalking on roller skates. It's like in the middle of Venice. You put the phone down and you're like,

this is pandemic. I made a mistake. I'm like, you'reates. It's like in the middle of Venice. You put the phone down, you're like, I made a mistake. I'm like, man, you're here, and I need to post some stupid funny shit or whatever. Yeah, because you were the tripod, so like, literally, and I'm like, so much. I'm taking you to the airport tomorrow, I'll probably never see you again. Can you film this?

Wait, I didn't see this rollerblading phase. First of all, it's roller skating, it's quads. Oh, yeah, don't find disrespect. Whoa. No, he's serious about things. Oh wow. You know, after the, you just, you don't know what's gonna stick. The Bob Ross face. That wouldn't have been on my bingo card. I was gonna say, that's what you do in your 20s.

Were you in your 20s? No. In my 30s, yeah. I don't know how old you are. Isn't that a rude question to ask somebody how old they are? Yeah, fuck off. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s.

I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s.

I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. Were you in your 20s? No. My 30s, yeah. I don't know how old you are. Isn't that a rude question to ask somebody how old they are? Yeah, fuck off. We just hired a new assistant, Isaac yesterday was like,

so how old are you? I'm like, Isaac, you're not allowed to ask a woman her age. I feel like if you're, if I could guess that you're below like 25, it's like super chill to ask. You think? Yeah, cause then it's like, how old are you? Okay, you're probably like 23, 24. Okay, that's chill.

Isaacson hasn't been in the professional arena ever in his life, so he doesn't really know. That's true. I'm super curious though, post-Bachelor, people's like journeys post-Bachelor, they're all over the place. A lot of people do different things, but it is like crazy how people just blow up

from doing the Bachelor. They can, for sure. Yeah. It's a grind. I feel like it's definitely been how people just blow up from doing The Bachelor. They can, for sure. Yeah. It's a grind. I feel like it's definitely been less and less. Yeah. Who was the last season that had like a pop? Was it like Colton?

Well, Joey. Joey now, but I'm like in that lull, I feel like Colton was like the last like big talked about season. No, Peter was after Colton. Okay. Peters was crossed pilot Peter. Oh my God, I feel like Peter.

Than Peter, yeah. Hannah and Peter, I think Peter was the last big season. I feel like all those girls kind of. And ever since after Peter, it wasn't until Joey, until you had something where the audience was really excited about, you had several popular women from that respective season. It was all over social media, but yeah,

it's been, they haven't exactly done a good job of selecting their fan favorites as the leads. Yeah. Well, just from the social media perspective too, like I feel like people get on and they assume they're gonna blow up, so then they're doing like these like cringey TikToks and you're like, honestly, like,

we don't need to see you rollerblading like. We don't. We're skating. Oh. It was intentional guys. No, I know, no, I know. But like see you rollerblading. We don't. We're skating. It was intentional, guys. No, I know, no, I know. But you know what I mean? I think what it is, though, is it's different. I don't know if you just kind of started from scratch

and you were doing some videos and a couple popped. I'm guessing that's probably what started. But I think when you come off. Just a couple popped. When you come off reality TV, you're literally given this platform and there's a sense of like, I should do something with this.

Well, I feel like you don't work for it, no offense. You don't have to. Nothing I worked for. No, I'm saying when you get this instant fan base, they're kind of like, oh, what is he gonna do next? And what you do next is gonna tell a lot about how successful you're gonna be. But I feel like going from zero

and having to work every single follower, it's, I don't know, I feel like I look at it differently. Well, and you master the process of like, what your audience wants, how to curate the content, how to speak to your audience. Well, because, you know, if you come off The Bachelor or any reality TV competition show, like Love Island recently is the new hit show.

It's like people are, they're not following you. Like, you know, people follow you probably, they like your content, they like your mom content, they like how you are. They said they like your mom. I was like, I don't show her. Like Sally's cool. But they've discovered you and then followed you

based off of what you were giving them as opposed to people following people on reality TV because like, yeah, maybe they they wanna follow their love story, but they also just are fascinated with them or they relate to them based off a perception of who they are and they come off the show and people want to then show who they really are. There's usually some resistance there from the audience.

Some people also just watch as like, to just like, you're a spectacle to them. And then sometimes you start posting what you wanna post and then your audience is like, like, eh, un-follow. And then people panic. And it's a real, it's a whole kind of very fascinating life cycle.

But there's a lot of trial and error. Yeah, and it can be very difficult. And it is, and you do have a lot of people with like, who were on years ago, who have a few hundred thousand followers, but they're kind of worthless. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. In the nicest way.

It's also crazy because like, the bachelor, bachelorette scene, you know how like there were like content houses, do you remember those? Yeah. Like I feel like that's, there's like a version of that with bachelor and bachelorette people. Cause like, I feel like we'll go to events

and like they're always together and they like travel in packs. I mean, you wouldn't, is that, am I right or? No, yeah, because it does, I think it does a lived experience. There's familiarity, you go to a party, you don't know anyone. It's like sorority. Yeah, it's like, you know.

Yeah, that's a good point. You know, I would imagine NFL players show up at a party and they're gonna hang out together in the same way we like TV stars to. Yeah, that's a great comparison. Who is, can you name drop an NFL player that we're friends with or that we talk to on a daily basis? Travis Kelsey, is he one of them?

Like some of my homies? Who do you, I mean, I'm trying to think of somebody that people would know. One of your friends? Yeah, like NFL homies. I mean, Joey Bosa. Yeah, people would know. Like one of your friends? Yeah, like NFL homies. I mean, Joey Bosa. Yeah, people would know him. Yeah, he's a homie.

A lot of people know Joey. I feel like a lot of people know who that is. Yeah, well, I've been on, let's see, four teams. You just kind of accumulate like a bunch of friends. So what teams have you been on? So Chargers, then I went to the Colts, the Browns, and the Raiders last year. Favorite, I'll just go ahead and, what was your favorite? Chargers, then I went to the Colts, the Browns, and the Raiders last year. Favorite, I'll just go ahead and,

what was your favorite? Chargers. Yeah, there's some about being here. Also, like she mentioned Georgia Farm, like I actually grew up on a farm in Georgia, and then went to Notre Dame, just straight corn fields, and then like got drafted out here. So when I got out here, I'm like, I'm in the NFL,

I'm living in Orange County. Like it was crazy. So I think for us, just that wow factor, that experiencing that wow factor. I think we were also here for four years. So like in four years, fresh out of college is when you make a lot of friends as adults. It's like, you start to learn yourself as more of like, okay, I'm not just a student.

So I feel like that's why, and just like us being here was so concrete, we weren't worried about you getting cut, even though you did. But I feel like it was more concrete, and then like I liked all of our phases in different cities in the NFL. Like Cleveland was fun, cults were fun,

Vegas, obviously fun, but I was pregnant, so I couldn't really take advantage of that. But yeah, Chargers, I just feel like. Yeah, it's been fun though. I got a question for you, very similar to what you had for me. And I ask this because there's some drama going on. Did you guys watch Love, Violin, USA?

No. We watched Bits and Pieces, but we haven't been able to deep dive. Okay, there is a bit of a drama going on at the end. There was a finale, whatever. And then there's, for those of you don't know, there's the bombshells and there's the OG people. So the OG people are there early on from beginning to end

and then the bombshells come in and try to stir shit up. And very much, even on Bachelor World, there's people who go all the way to hometowns. And then there's people who leave week two or three. And then at the finale, you have this drama between this bombshell named Deya, who really didn't, the host, Ariana, accused her

of being a mean girl because she showed up to the reunion expecting to be asked a lot of questions and there was other drama going on for some of the more important characters on the show. And now Deya's out there accusing the host, Ariana, of being a mean girl and being like, I had a lot to say and like asked me this, you didn't ask me that. And like, I understand where the Dejas are coming from, but it's also like, this is a

TV show and you're not a star. And I am curious for you, I feel like in the NFL, it's a very interesting sport because you wear helmets. Right. And no, no, but seriously, I think there's a lot of NFL players who go to the league, right? And you're a professional football player and you have some money and you're on TV.

And I think there's an expectation of being famous and being known, but a lot of people don't know who you guys are, especially if you're not. And then you have your upper echelon players, your stars, who everyone knows. And I got to wonder, because in reality TV world, it can be very catty, it can be very high school-ish,

it can be very petty, we see it on these reality TV shows. But I feel like in the NFL, there's a lot of this as well that doesn't get talked about. Is there a lot of hierarchies in terms of who the It girls are? You know what I'm saying? From a wives' perspective, for sure. I was gonna say, there's two different worlds,

where it's like wives and then the actual guys on the field. Well, you can give wives, because that's juicier, but I'll give them. But I feel like players could be pretty, too. I feel like for players... You start with wives. You wanna think about your answer? Yeah, I feel like it has varied team to team.

But if you think of any group of 53 girls in a room, you're not gonna get along with every single one of them. You're gonna gravitate towards different girls, whatever. But there have been teams that you've played for where girls won't even give you the time of day unless your husband has a certain contract size. Or if he's a veteran. And I think I saw it more earlier on in your career.

It hasn't really been like. Well now you get to teams and they're like, oh that's Alison Coutts. They know who she is. I don't think people give a shit about that. They for sure do. Isaac, I feel like once I cried on the internet, people, I lost my credibility.

You cried on the internet? Oh yeah. What did you cry about? Did you film it? Oh yeah. Yeah did you cry about? Did you film it? Oh yeah. Yeah, she's one of those. Just, no, no, not like that. I'm joking, I'm joking.

I love it. Explain this to me because I am a bit critical of people who cry, pause, pull out the phone, press play, and then continue the cry. It's like if you're having a meltdown, have a meltdown. I made a video, literally, no, I made a video, I feel like that was a few years ago where I was like,

hold on, I have to get this footage of me crying. No, it was when you got cut. It was two weeks before I gave birth and he loses his job and we have to move. That's scary. And I literally pulled out the camera and I was like, so we're moving. We're like, the people need this.

I'm like, Ali, get the camera out. I'm like, this is fucking good. Yeah, like what are we doing? I feel like you'll do get the camera out. I'm like, this is fucking good. What are we doing? I feel like you'll do it, but it's, like you'll put like a joking text over it. Like it's not like serious. No, I don't.

I think if you see someone crying on the internet, I never try to evoke that someone's gonna feel bad for me. I'm always just like, ha ha. I think it's the meltdowns that I'm critical of where someone is like allegedly having a panic attack and they're crying and I'm, wait, hold on, this is being filmed by you. You're like, you clicked play.

You know what, I hate to say this, but the people who put the camera down on their bathroom floor and then go over and sit on the bathroom floor and then put their hand. I understand, and I've seen people, some people have argued that there's an art to social media but I'm like, if I've seen people, some people have argued that there's like an art to social media, but I'm like, if I'm upset, I don't know that I'm gonna record it like that.

Maybe I'll record like my like puffy face after and be like, hard day. It is crazy when you think about like what you're watching on TikToks and then you think about, oh no, wait, they set the camera up and then press, put the timer on, ran over to the curtains, oh wait, no, wait, they set the camera up and then put the timer on, ran over to the curtains. Wait, no, fix their hair. Oh, press 10 second and then open the curtains

and then put it in this like, you just woke up and you opened your curtains and you- Like my life does not look like that even if I tried. No one's ever just like taken a selfie, click, and that be the one they post. No. No, there's a 40 in that. Oh, 40, that's low, right?

40 is a good day. Yeah, it is crazy, especially the day in the lives. People do these voiceovers, and I'm like, right, I wish there was a behind the scenes of you setting up your camera. Yeah, it's wild. I've tried setting up the camera, putting my groceries in the car,

and then you close the trunk, and I did that, and I was like, that was so fucking stupid. Yeah car and then you close the trunk and I did that And I was like that was so fucking stupid And then you open the truck grab your phone People are looking at you like you shut your phone in there, but people don't think about it I'm like I'll go to the comment section like expecting people to be like this idiot like what are they doing and then people are like No, oh my god. Love your content I'm like but like I also like I love watching them too because it is so they're They're very satisfying. And you're like, oh yeah, that is like, wow, what a great day you had.

Yeah, I need one of those. Yeah, I'm like, wait, I need to do that. And then I try to do it and I'm like, what the fuck? No, I just need to put these groceries in the fridge. No, Lou. I was gonna say that's actually my favorite is the ones from inside the refrigerator and then opening it up.

And it's like, you literally put your phone in, close the door and opened it back up. Yeah, it's impressive. No, I'm not gonna lie. I've definitely forgot my phone in a fridge before. And I'm like, why the fuck is my phone? Isaac, what'd you do with my phone?

But we'll back to the drama thing on Teams. I think it exists with players too. It's not as bad, I think guys are chill, but there's just such a difference in how much people make that it's hard not to have that be a thing. I mean, millions of dollars. Yeah, like. But hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yeah, your teammate could be making 30 times what you make. I mean. More than that. I mean, like, CD Lamb just signed a new contract. He's making like 30 mil a year, and there's rookie receivers on the team making, I don't know. What did Jordan Love just sign?

Crazy, it's like over. 60 million. So if you've got a guy making 60 million a year, he's making $4 million a game. And then you got me, remember this story, $7,000 every two weeks. He doesn't care about me. There's no way, like just if he's really worried

about winning and he's competing, like he's not worried about Isaac on practice squad his rookie year So you're making like 3500 a game. I will a prank. I mean, you know, I wasn't playing but Yes, which I mean it obviously changed like my career totally changed that year it got way better But yeah, there's a huge I remember like when I first got in the league they used to hand out checks So like you'd go to your locker and your check's sitting there. Guys would open it up. And I remember just looking at the guy next to me, my check was seven grand and his was like 120.

And I'm like, bro, we just did the same 14 day period. Like you didn't do that much more than me. Yeah, because he wasn't playing. There's like inactive actives on game day and this guy literally was not playing. So we did the exact same thing, and he was making that much more than me. So. I feel like because that differentiation between salaries,

it kinda makes sense. Like the girls who don't wanna be friends with me because your contract's not that high, I kinda understand it's like you're living in this place, every single football season, you're experiencing a very different NFL. So we don't have that much in common. Yeah, yeah.

Whereas I feel like me hanging out with the girls who are new to the team or their husband was on practice squad last year, now he's on a 53 man run. I feel like you have more in common. I think it's good, yeah. Almost like high school, you have to almost pay your dues.

And then once you get to be the senior in high school, you're like, I used to be a freshman. I used to get hazed. No, actually. I used to have to do this your dues. And then once you get to be the senior in high school, you're like, I used to be a freshman, I used to get hazed. I used to have to do this stuff. So it feels like there's a little bit of that. It's a little high school-y. But also, you're saying with just people coming and going, my locker, I've had years where my locker's next

kinda like the transaction locker, right? Where they'll bring a guy in for two weeks. And you kinda know this dude's not gonna be here in two weeks. I've been that guy before. I signed with the Raiders two years ago. I was there for two weeks. Like you are just really cautious about making like

these crazy friendships. It's just not like, we're not gonna even be together in a week, I don't know. So there's that too. You try your best, but it's just crazy. Yeah, it's cutthroat. You hate and love the NFL. Yeah, are you officially retired?

No, I mean, I've listened. If anybody listening, I'm ready. But as you get older, because I've done seven seasons, this will be year eight. I've been a bubble guy the last couple years. And bubble guy meaning, will he make the bubble guy meaning will he make the team, will he not make the team. So sometimes it just takes longer.

It's super frustrating though, because I see guys and you're like, I know for a fact that I'm objective. Like this guy will never play. You will never have him play. He doesn't contribute to your locker room. He's not a leader, he's whatever. But they're always betting on the next guy.

He doesn't have a famous wife. Well yeah, now you're a veteran. You cost a certain amount. Yeah, more expensive. They're betting on the next guy. Does he have a famous wife? Yeah. Well yeah, now you're a veteran, you cost a certain amount. Yeah, more expensive. You're betting on the future. But I get it. What do you do to stay in the game if you're not? In the game. No, yeah.

What is your day to day look like? Missed training camp, you got to miss training camp. Yeah, that's, I mean I'm not mad about missing training camp. Assuming I play, training camp is horrible. What am I doing to stay in the game? What do you think? Everything, I mean, you work out every single day, you eat super healthy, is, like,

are you talking about that stuff? Yeah, I'm like, these guys who are in training camp aren't carrying around a 20 pound weight all day. Like, I'm carrying around a baby all day. We have our own training camp at home. It just involves a child instead of a problem. And no sleep. Like, you know, I'm, my mind is ready.

You're grinding. I'm ready. Yeah. No, he's ready to leave the house and to have an excuse to not wake up in the middle of the night. I would say I would sleep more. So he's ready more. Can you show yourself more of a three, four

or four, three DN? Uh, I, I'm four, three for sure, but I can do both. And again, that's why. Packers are running a four, three now. I'm just curious. You're a Packers do both and again. That's why I was running a four three now I'm just curious your Packers guy. Oh, so that's a Jordan love Yeah, I mean the gaudy green we'll see you think they'll be good this year we don't have to go deep Our house has a gold wall Our house has a gold wall. Oh wow. It just happened to have one.

This is pre or post you moving in. Oh no, he bought the house. Was that selling point for you, Beyond? Oh, it already had it. I was like, oh, it's a great gold wall. Then I bought a green chair. It looks good. Oh look, getting gold.

Look at that. I know. Yeah, now it's all. I'm like, wow, everything's running gold. I still have question marks on Jordan Love. I know, I know. Yeah, I just, I just. Yeah, now it's all, I'm like, wow, everything's written in gold. I don't, I still have question marks on Jordan Love. Uh-oh. I, that's, people-

Good for you. No. People don't, people wouldn't agree with me. I'm just not like, we'll see. Well, I mean, sure, anything, anything's possible. It's a small sample. Were you surprised last season? By him?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Especially just cause like what he had done. I mean, we'll see. We'll see. They paid him a lot. Also when you pay a guy like that a lot,

and again, we don't have to deep dive on it. A lot of pressure, but your salary cap is only so big. You have 200 mil, or a little bit more per year you can spend on guys. He's a fourth of your cap. How can you build a team? So how are you gonna build a team with like 150? Well all their receivers are first and second year players

and they're really good. Yeah, but still, I'm just talking about longevity. They kinda have to hit the lottery in a perfect sweet spot to win a Super Bowl. Same thing with the Chargers. I was gonna say the 49ers, they don't have to pay their quarterback right now, but one day they will.

I mean he'll be the highest paid. He's gonna sign a crazy contract just for the game. But like the Chargers are a great example too. Like they're, Herbert's making bank. Yeah, he's like 18% of their entire cap. Yeah, so again, there's a lot of teams like that and that's why the Chiefs are so good. Because Mahomes isn't, he's not taking up a fourth year cap.

Mahomes is a team player. He's got a favorable deal. He cares. Yeah. Yeah. We can talk about it for days. Anyways, the Bachelorette. Yeah. You guys are watching this season?

Yes. Were you guys shocked by Devin going home? Jonathan. No, I was like, I was like. Are you shocked by Jonathan going home? I was like, Devin. I was like, wait, Devin. I was like, Devin didn't go home.

I think Devin's gonna win. I'm like, Devin's gonna win the fight. I was like, I'm shocked right now. No, I am too. Did we watch the same thing? I was like, wait, Devon? I was like, Devon didn't go home. I think Devon's gonna win. I was like, I'm shocked right now. No, I am too. Do we watch the same thing? I was like, that's weird. I know, I was convinced that Devon was gonna go home. No, I know, I think we all were.

Was it the last minute, like when he went in the... No, I think she, here's the, no one's changing. That's the thing. The crowd was shocked. At that stage in the game, the lead knows what they're doing. You know what I'm saying? They know by now. The I love you more was crazy on Jen.

Yeah. She has to pick them. No, she said I love you more. But okay, they do this every single Bachelor season where they're like, oh, there's no ending like this before. What does that mean? Probably nothing. They're trying to, they try and gas it up

every single year, I'm just like, okay. And then it happens and you're like, didn't that happen? I'm also like Colton hopping the fence. Like that wasn't that it is intense. They built that up like from episode one. They did, they're like, bachelor does parkour. Right, you're like, whoa, what the fuck?

Well, Colton jumping the fence was kind of, it kind of lived up to the moment. I'm sure there was a button near that he didn't need to hop the fence. Oh no, it was definitely. Yeah, there was clearly a gate, open gate. Performative. Yeah, the gate's open, he's like, excuse me, hold on.

I can jump. He's like, I'll go around. They're like, do that again. Jump over the fence. But it was kind of crazy. Yeah, The Bachelor, it is fascinating to me, and Bachelor, because you're right, at the end they definitely know,

I mean, I don't know how it works, but there's gotta be a piece where it's like, hey, we have two more episodes. Like even though you know who you're gonna choose. But I mean, last season Daisy was like, I know you don't love me as much as you love Kelsey. Daisy was a real one. That was different, that was unique.

But Devin, I think one, like that was his intention of saying, but in reality he was just like, you haven't said this to me, and so therefore. And she was like, oh my God, you dumb idiot. No, I love you. What do you mean? You stupid fucking idiot.

You piece of fucking shit. You piece of fucking shit. I love you. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, and then the I love you more. She has to pick Devin. She has to. I mean, at the rose ceremony, Devinvin. She has to. She has to.

I mean, at the rose ceremony, Devin was looking real smug and real kind of like. He was. He had a little smile on his face. He had a little smile on his face. As he should. Yeah. Well, he's like, you're not gonna tell me you love me more.

More. And then send me home. That's crazy. We've seen crazy. I mean, it's not like impossible. That was a different level of affirmation from Jen. That was like, it very much felt like when you are, when you're in her shoes and you know who you wanna pick,

you are in fact very worried that that person you want is going to leave. Because you're like, holy fuck. Because I mean, it is, the engagement is real. I mean, you know. Wait, this is super juicy to me. I think feelings are real. Why? Okay. I mean, it's as real. I mean, you know. This is super juicy to me. Isaac, feelings are real. Why, okay.

I mean, it's as real as you wanna make it, but like, yeah, it's a real thing. And yeah, some couples get re-engaged once they get to know each other. But like when you're in it, you're like, I'm gonna be in a real relationship with this person. They're gonna like, you know, I don't wanna be with her or him,

whoever they, who your second choice is. You can't tell me that you don't kind of get the ick sometimes from people on, like, if you're the Bachelorette, I definitely feel like I would look at the room and be like, please do not kiss me, please don't. Oh no. That happens. No, being the lead is about survival.

It is surviving. So, the show should be on Animal Planet. All you wanna do is send everyone home as soon as you can. I feel like it's extra hard. And you're just waiting for the green light. So when they say the rose ceremony is really hard, you're like, no, I actually have been looking forward to it. Best part of... I feel like it's harder for...

You don't get a rose! You don't get a rose! I feel like it's harder for the men because if they were to say like, oh, no, I don't think we should kiss, like then you're like embarrassing this woman. And it's like you would like the bachelor would look bad. But then when a woman does it, it's like empower, you know, it's like it's like girl power. Hell fucking yeah, because we're always like held to this. Ask for consent. Yes, literally, please. And so I think when and and that happens. Literally please.

Literally please, we're all, we're begging his ass for consent. And I feel like with Sam in that, when he was like, I think, she's like, you know. That was hard to watch. And I don't usually, I love a good cringey moment. It was hard. The whole him confessing his love to that,

it was like, ah. How did you feel about Sam M when he was like, she's like, well, how do you think I'm selfless? And he's like, I love you. Yeah, I'm like, I don't think he actually has listened to a word she said. No, God, no. I think he's just like, I wanna make it

to the fantasy suites. No, absolutely, and I feel like she. Always goes back to fantasy suites. They had a lot of sexual chemistry, you could tell. For sure. But like, were you listening to the words coming out of her mouth? God, chemistry, you could tell. For sure. But like, were you listening to the words coming out of her mouth? God no, God no.

And I do feel like she, I fear Jen cooked and ate him alive at the Nutella. She did, but she definitely prepared for that speech. And as would I. Oh yeah. As would I. She really crushed it. Don't you think rewatching the show, it kind of fuels you up? Ooh yeah. Right?

Like all the shit that you didn't actually see, so you have all the feelings already, and then you're like, wait, he did what? Yeah, watching the show, boy. Well also because, like, as the audience judges the leads for their choices, even if it's not really their choices, you know, and so I think with Genge, I think she did really like him.

And I think Sam Man made her look like a fool. Yeah. And I think she felt foolish at times, And I think Sam M. made her look like a fool. And I think she felt foolish at times. And I think the audience was very critical of her bringing him along. So this was an opportunity for her to like, to put that to bed, so to speak, and stand up for herself in a way that she probably wishes she would have done in real time with Sam.

Also, do y'all feel like, obviously we heard Sam say, keep the main thing the main thing nine million times. That's a strong phrase. Just keep the main thing the main thing. No, and while he was keeping the main thing the main thing, all he said at AFR was truthfully. Truthfully. That's all he said.

Truthfully, well truthfully. And it's like, do you, why? You're a fucking liar. But yeah, like why are we like, shouldn't everything you say just be truth? Like can't we all just argue and say your supposed to not? Can I be honest for the first time in our conversation today?

No. Can I be honest? I thought you were gonna do that now. I was like, can you even lie the whole time? Yeah, I was like, I'm like, lean in, I'm ready. And I'm gonna finally be honest. It was compelling. The truthfully is great.

He's a phrase, he's like your phrase bro. Like he's one of the bro bros, like, you know, just like, bro, like truthfully, like the way I feel is like, you know, he's one of those. It's amazing, amazing, and that phrase bro, like he's one of the bro bros like, you know, just bro, like truthfully like the way I feel is like What did he say you bother me you bother me did you ever see the choice It's like an Nicholas Sparks niche Nicholas Yes, and the guy the main character in the choice tells the girl like you bother me And it was like this whole thing and And then when he proposes, like, bother me for the rest of your life.

Like, I want you to bother me. And it was like, really, it was like, oh my God, I want someone to tell me I bother them. And it was like Sam. I think it's kind of a red flag. Kind of a red flag. Scary. It's like, it's giving, like,

oh, I just got engaged to this person and I'm gonna give you a four paragraph all about our ups and downs and we've been through so much. I'm like, tell me you've had problems with that tongue of yours. No, literally. Are you upset that Jonathan went home?

I am, I'm just upset because Jen really threw us for a loop, she's great at her job as being the Bachelorette because she came on this show and she was like, we were like, what does the life look like with this person? And with Jonathan, she said kids. It was the only person she said kids with. And so we were like, oh my God, it's Jonathan.

Like him. It's literally Jonathan and- If you're Devin. No, I feel like she's like, listen, I had to throw America for a loop. They all thought Jonathan was winning. Well, the truth is- So now we all know who now is winning.

Their ability to stay together will be Devin's emotional maturity and not let shit like that bother him. Yeah. And that shit like that happens all the fucking time. That's what I was gonna say, like watching it back, I feel like if I'm a contestant and I quote unquote win, which is really just being in a relationship.

Yeah, that's a crazy thing. I'm like, are you really winning? But I feel like at the end, yeah, rewatching it back and seeing her say something to him that she didn't say to you, that would bother the fuck out of me. Yeah, that would hurt. But you gotta let it go.

I don't know if I would be able to. Yeah, but do you? You don't have to. And it's definitely your get out of jail free card. If you don't want to, you can definitely, there's plenty of opportunities to pick a fight. Do the people watch together? Some do, some don't watch at all.

You're saying like watch parties. I was gonna say, I wouldn't be able to watch at all. No. I wouldn't survive. I mean, and I haven't watched any of, like I have not sat down and watched any of Nick Seasons. I don't know if, like I don't's seasons. I don't know if, yeah. Like I don't need to.

I don't think you do. Do you think your daughter's gonna wanna watch? Oh, I'm sure. And she's gonna be like, dad, why are you kissing this girl that's not mommy? And I'm gonna be like, yeah, why are you kissing that girl that's not mommy? That's funny, I didn't see that episode.

That's so crazy actually. Wait, what is he doing? Kat Stickler just posted about rewatching his season being like, that was weird. Yeah, she's like, why are you kissing? Yeah, I can. Yeah. She's like, why are you kissing? She's like, why am I hurting my own feelings? Sarah's devastated that Jonathan went home. Oh, I'm absolutely livid.

Why are you mad? I don't understand why you're mad. Why you don't understand, I don't get. I just, it's like my sports team losing. The Packers just lost a Super Bowl. Exactly, like that was my winner. He's no longer winning. And they asked him to be on Bachelor in Paradise.

So I'm not even gonna probably get like an Ari, well, I made a mistake. So now I wanna choose this person. So now I'm just like, okay, my guy is out and I'm not a fan of the other two. So there were. Wait, you're going at the Ari situation. That was crazy that they're like,

hey, in seven years, we're gonna do a Bachelor in Paradise and you are our first one that's invited, are you coming? And it's like, he's now have to like turn down every possible relationship. They almost certainly put him on the spot right then and there and just asked him. Oh, for sure. Almost certainly.

But like that's a long time until they film that, what he's just like not, like what if he falls in love with someone? Then he's like, sorry, I promised on national television I would go to this. When you say you want him to win, is it because you think Jonathan and Jen would be a good couple, or you just want him to win?

Both. What's the thing that- I think that they were the most compatible. They both do lacrosse. They both, where he lives was a nice place for her to go. I think that they were on the same page. But you get, yeah, he's just a solid guy. He's just a solid dude.

And maybe not meant for reality TV. I'm just like, cause he seems stable. He seems a great guy. He's very caring man. He's too stable. He didn't cry cause she didn't say, I love you. He also didn't have a meltdown being like, I don't know if I'm ready for this.

He was just an even keel guy. Grant Ellis, our new bachelor seems like a great guy. We had an opportunity to interview him. If you haven't listened to it, go check it out. And he really seems like a great guy. He really seems like a man. I love his emotional intelligence. He really is like, for all the things

that we've been frustrated at bachelors in the past, like Grant seems to have that, but also so does Jonathan. And Jonathan did go farther and Jonathan did, we're more invested in Jonathan's love story, so I am curious as to why Jonathan wasn't even really considered for that role. Also, by the way, our night one guy. Brett carried.

Carried. He's so funny. He's a stud. You guys, I love him. Why is he not the Bachelor? I honestly, when they called me up and said, hey, we're not gonna tell you who the bachelor is, but we're announcing him next week

and would you like to interview him? And we were again, very gracious for the opportunity. We love him. Thank you bachelor. I honestly thought it was Brett. I was convinced it was Brett. I was like, here they are. We're in this Jason Kelsey era of like lovingly.

No actually. No, you're super right. I didn't even think about the Jason. They kind of missed the mark on that. And then when we interviewed him here on the show via Zoom, he was like very charming and funny and he kind of- Charming, confident. And he kind of carried jokes and it was like, wow,

like I could really see them. Like why did they cast this guy if they just were to send him home night one? It doesn't even matter if Jen doesn't like him. Fine, Jen doesn't like him. There's 30 other guys that Jen doesn't like, you know? Yeah. You can carry Corinne.

Final four, nothing carry Corinne. Final four, nothing against Corinne. There was no remote, if it was about just love, she goes home night one, but she had a nanny. And I had two women that I was like, it's either, it's one of them. So who gives a fuck? Who else goes to hometown?

Let's make some TV. Yeah, do you think that, did you have a talk with the producers like hey? I want to make better TV. Are they like hey we Suggest you're not allowed to answer that no I can answer that oh Great TV, and I want I wanted to find I was very serious about like I was 35 at the time They asked me yeah, very like I really was like I only cared about who they cast it I wanted to work I was like this would be great if I could actually meet someone I think casted. I wanted to work. I was like, this would be great

if I could actually meet someone. I thought you meant like you wanted to work. Yeah, but I also knew how they cast. They don't cast for me. They're casting for a TV show. So I was hoping that I could meet someone and then make good TV and go to a bar. And any night, I'm just saying any night you go to a bar.

And have a drink. It's full of people. You don't leave, it know, it's like, just because there's 40 guys doesn't mean like you're destined to find your partner, you know? It's just like, they're casting 30 people. That's true. You know, it's just like, so once I decided who I was into,

which is, it's always less than four for every person, then you don't really give a fuck after that. So why, why Brett wasn't brought along, I don't understand. I think he was a great guy. Did she talk to him night one? He did the splits. I feel like I didn't even like,

I didn't even really like remember Brett a ton, and then he just came back in my mind from the reunion. But that was like, he's had so, he's had very little moments, and every time he's had a moment, he's made a mark. Social media has loved him. Like he clearly has like the it factor. He has some kind of star quality

that I don't know what the people making the show aren't seeing. Well, I feel like that's a great way to get people back interested in like Bachelor, Bachelor, if it is really falling off, which I don't know that it is. I feel like people always come back. But I feel like he would have been a great addition. I think that's your turn.

No, I was gonna say, yeah, I'm like. I'm just like acting, you're it's your turn. No, I was gonna say. I'm just like acting you're not here. So Brett though, I was telling her on the way up here, guys like myself, guys that are bigger, you have to have a little bit of swag. Like you're not relying on just being the six pack, I'm saying you gotta have a little game. But seriously though, that's why he's smooth. got a little game. But you have, seriously though, like he's,

that's why he's smooth. He's got game, like. He's got personality. He's a beast. I feel like they have never, and correct me if I'm wrong, my bachelor veterans over here. I feel like there's never been someone funny, no? I mean like Brett, like the way he's just able to like,

Yeah, he's got quick wit. Their third bachelor ever, I believe his name was Bob, and he was also like not your washboard stomach type of guy, and he was funny and charming, and honestly, I think that's the last time. Are you a bachelor at history buff? No, but I've been in the franchise long enough to have met some of these people and know,

I didn't start watching it until I was on it. Yeah. I'm always fascinated, because she was asking about talking with the producers and is it kind of curated. It has to be curated. I feel like there's- It's staged, not scripted.

So the environment is staged, the situations are controlled, but the conversations are very real. Did you ever- That's like Gen's ex coming. Yeah, that was, I'm like, what are we doing? There's no way this guy just was like, oh, I wanna go, whatever.

Yeah, he's like, he got ahold of one of our producers. I'm like, how do you get ahold of a producer? Okay, where's the number? Yeah, like how did you know their name? I'm like, there's a lot of guys that would have been done that if they could. But like, did they ever have scenes where they were like,

redo that, was there any? Sure. Yeah, so. I mean, you watch the bloopers, and I said this to Nick last night, I'm like, they need to just keep in the bloopers sometimes, because that would make it funny and genuine. But yeah, watching the bloopers,

you see just how many times they redo stuff. It's too formulaic for their own good. I mean, sometimes, like if, for example, if you're in the water having a moment, and let's say the first time you say, I love you to that person is in the water off mic, because that's one of the few places you can have a mic, you might have to redo that.

But they really do try to make it as authentic and as real as possible. And I do think The Bachelor, from my knowledge, is one of the most authentic reality TV dating shows. Interesting. Compared to others out there. Yeah, I think- It is a TV show.

That makes me like it more. Yeah, for sure, because there's definitely just a sentiment that this is not real, or how can people fall in love that fast? But I feel like, kind of what you were saying, you're so in it. Oh, the feelings are real. Yeah, that I feel like you just kind of are like, I'm here, I'm in it, and it just,

you become so a part of it that it is real. We started dating two weeks after we met. So like, feelings have to be, I mean, we're not, these people aren't just getting engaged to get engaged. You have nothing to focus on. Yeah, except love. That's the weird part for me.

Except your feelings and that person in front of you. And then you could be at a bunch of athletes who are loved to compete, and then you put one person for them to compete against. It's a pretty simple training camp. I feel like Jen is having a very authentic, organic experience, but the guys could be like, I just wanna win.

I really just wanna win, and not necessarily think, oh, I wanna be with her for the rest of my life. For sure. Also we were discussing this before we recorded. I could say that winning the Bachelorette is a terrible experience for whoever wins. Wins. Unless it's not.

I hate that word, but I hate that word because I'm like. Well they definitely don't, if they fall in love, great. Yes. But they definitely don't win. No. Because think about it, like who are the winners from previous seasons? Like you don't, if you can engage the Bachelorette,

she's the star. And if that relationship doesn't work out, people are here to prop up their Bachelorette. You are yesterday's fucking news. Like you are, if you had any hopes of a public life outside of the Bachelorette world, you don't want to win the Bachelorette. Wait, that is kind of true. Like, okay, we world. You don't wanna win the bachelor. Wait, that is kinda true.

Like, okay, we have Charity and Dotton still together. Who, by the way, why, love Charity and Dotton, but why did they bring them, last year's couple, here's a free trip to Greece. What? You're like, wait. Where did this come from? Does Jen get a free trip to Greece?

They're just doing their taxes and they're like, we need a write-off somewhere. That was so bizarre. Well, I mean, what successful relationships are there? I think my favorite is JoJo and Jordan. Yeah, but they're also in a relationship and they're married and like, yeah, sure, he won because he's in love.

And his brother's also Aaron Rodgers, so he got a bit of a leg up because now he's doing a little... That's your guy. I mean, you're a fan. Of Aaron. I feel like the whole gang. Yeah, but you know. The lineage. I'm a fan of the Packers. I moved on from Aaron because the Packers moved on from Aaron and I mean you're a fan. Of Aaron. I feel like the whole gang. Yeah, but you know.

The lineage. I'm a fan of the Packers. I moved on from Aaron, because the Packers moved on from Aaron. And I'm a Packer fan, I'm not an Aaron. Oh wow. I'm a team guy. Wow, you're just interesting.

Yeah, when you're on the Packers, bye. Yeah. No, but who was Michelle with? Exactly, Nate. Nate, yeah. And he got, that didn't go well for him in the breakup. He was before Michelle. With Rachel Lindsay and Brian.

Yeah. Yeah. In the shadows, I'm saying they're all in the shadows. Tino and Eric, my God, their lives got worse after they won. Yeah, wow, now I'm like going through it. Like winning the Bachelorette. It's like the Madden curse, you're on the cover. It is a curse. You really, you're on the cover.

It is a curse. You really better be doing it for love. I'm a fan of Joey and Kelsey though. They're great. Yes, but also different, a little different. Yeah, because it's not, yeah, it's bachelor, bachelorette, but still, I'm just thinking of couples in general. That is so crazy though that you say that,

because that is true. It is like every man who has ended up with a bachelorette and is now no longer. Yeah. Well, you're also, I feel like a lot of women get behind the bachelorette. And as the guy, like you said, you're the shadow. And if you try to like be the TikTok star and you're like, I'm famous too. It's like, eh.

I think you're just kind of not winning as a guy. Like, I would have, I was two time runner up. Two time runner up. That's, that's- Which is a whole nother thing. But had I won, I wouldn't be sitting with you here today. I wouldn't have my daughter. I wouldn't have met Natalie.

I wouldn't have been the bachelor. I wouldn't have this show. Yeah, so you actually won. Round of applause for that. But I- Wait, you won. I did. Yeah.

But I would not have won if I won. Yes. Yeah, that is crazy. Yeah. Two time runner up is did. Yeah. But I would not have won if I won. Yes, yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. Two time runner up is crazy. Yeah. What's Jed up to? Exactly.

Is he writing music still? No, his sister married Hannah's brother, right? Jed's sister. Jed's sister married. Hannah's brother. Oh. No, no, no, Jed's ex-girlfriend married Hannah Brown's brother.

Whoa. And she still doesn't follow her. Whoa. I don't think, is that still him? Is that, does he still know? How do you know that? That's an easy search. Because it was a thing we followed on the show for a while.

Because I was- And you were checking Hannah Brown's followers? It matters. I was gary-teeing Hannah Brown in that situation. I really fell for Hannah Brown. Is that what you were doing on your phone? No, she's great. If your ex on the show, no, she got engaged.

Her whole experience was ruined because of Jed. This girl popped in and was like, I was dating Jed. Is it the girl that Mike dropped that is now with Hannah's? Yeah, and then she slid into her brother's DM and then he married her. And like this woman literally infiltrated her whole life. And she has nothing. And is capitalize on all her fame.

And it's- Yeah, that's kind of, I wonder if like, I always wonder what's happening behind the scenes because obviously like we don't show everything in social media. So I always wonder like what conversations have been had? Has she taken accountability? What's the drama?

But I don't think Hannah doesn't follow her. Wait, who? The not following actually matters. That does matter. It's a choice. It's 2024, you'll follow somebody, you meet them or whatever, will follow each other. That's funny, my sister,

I was gonna say my sister canceled her wedding and I'm pretty sure one of the first things I did was block him. Blocked who? Her ex. Yeah, so I'm saying if you follow my following closely. I don't know if maybe she is following her now. That is crazy.

Is there any confirmation? What are these whiteboards that are sitting in front of us? Oh, we have a game for a couple. Oh, wow. Oh my gosh, fun. Do we not get white boards? Laura and I plan, it's like the newlywed game reality TV style.

Oh. Hannah does not follow Lily update. She does not. Wow, she just have a ticker every week. So they got engaged, she went to the wedding, there was probably a shower or two in there, a bachelorette party, they're still married. So there's at least been some success. Wait, did she there, a bachelorette party. They're still married, so there's at least been some success.

Wait, did she go to the bachelorette and did she go to the bridal shower? She definitely was at the wedding. I saw wedding photos. I think that you have to do that as a sister. Like you have to be there for your family or else your parents might be like, okay. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

But she was like, no, I'm still not following her. That is crazy. Like it's now sinking in again. That's crazy they don't follow each other. Should we grab the whiteboards? Should we use the whiteboards since they're here? All right, give us the game. All right, Newlywed's game question number one.

Who is more likely to complain about their edit? If you guys were a reality TV characters. It's the classic Newlywed's game. Ask someone a question about their relationship and see if their partner can guess what they answered. But with the reality TV twist, who is more likely to complain about their edit between the two of you?

And I just write that down, right? So I'm guessing what Allie would put. And yeah, you're guessing what she's gonna. Or, yeah. Yes, you're guessing what you think she wrote down. I'm not guessing what I think I'm guessing. You're guessing what you think Natalie wrote down. Are we answering, are we going?

Is this freestyling? Do we want the girls to turn her over? No, the guys have to give their guess. The guys guess and then, yeah. I think Natalie picked me. Wrong. Yeah, get them right. Wrong.

Because you have been on this shit. So you know how this works. I don't, I'd be like, whoa, what the fuck? That's not what I meant, that's not what I said. And I would get picked. You'd accept your fate. You would accept your fate. You'd be like, hey, she's just like, come on.

She's part of the show. It's like reality. I feel like I don't want to win anyways. Okay, back to Ziff. I think you probably said me. Isaac, come on. Oh my God. I also for sure.

We're giving narcissists. If we record a video ourselves. No, what I feel like is this, I feel like this is us projecting the fact that our wives tease us all the time and criticize us. Yeah. And it was like, who would complain the most? I guess I would,

cause I always fucking complain. Yeah. I think that's where that came from. I thought you were gonna go a different direction with that and be like, well, our wives are perfect. They're just so perfect. I think they are. They are.

They are. It's a mixture, duh. It's weird. So perfect, but we are used to taking the heat. Yeah, we take. They are. For sure. It's a mixture, duh. It's weird. So perfect, but we are used to taking the heat. Yeah, we take some shots. Take the heat, yeah. Well, we've done enough. We've carried the babies.

We've carried the team. We've literally. We've catched trades, that's all I'm saying. Absolutely. How long was your delivery? A C-section planned. She was breech. Right out the belly button.

Honestly, I loved my C-section. I know. Oh my God, okay. Yeah. I would do it again. Normalize C-sections. I didn't have one, but I love that you had a great experience. But yeah, I'm like, now that I have a scar,

I'm like, might as well do it again, like round two, but I'm like, but kind of like want the natural experience. I feel like don't, maybe this has changed. And maybe I think they just prefer you to continue to do C-section. No, it's called a V-back. Well, technically it's like preferred, but you can do a V-back.

It's preferred because you can like blow up. Yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. But my doctor said he sewed me up a certain, he made sure to take care of my incision. Okay. He gave you an extra stitch. Hell yeah. Extra stitch in my an extra stitch. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Extra stitch in my abdomen, yes.

Hell yeah. Okay, next question. Okay, question number two. Who would give the better confessionals? Did you give good confessionals? I feel like you were calculated. I feel like you were smart about it. A lot of people say that.

I was, yeah, and I don't say this with pride, but'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie.

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I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, you're like, ugh. So what are you gonna, what do you think? I'm gonna say Natalie. I had that at first, but I did change it. Not the eraser marks. Okay, I changed it because you are, you are very. No, we get it, I've done reality TV before. No, no, well, yeah, that, but also like you're very, you can be like very emotional and like, you're not afraid to be vulnerable,

and I think I would like try to come off as like some tough bitch, and like where you would just like lean into your feelings and you would like, yeah. And I wouldn't. I think he would be a little stiff at first. He'd be a little guarded. Yeah, a little guarded. But if you were given the opportunity to-

Yeah, you'd be like a stupid fucking piece of shit. It's like, whoa, we're back here? Okay. That's like grocery store Joe, night one, you know, clammed up, was terrible. Turned out to be one of- Grocery store Joe, night one, you know, clammed up, was terrible. Turned out to be one of its biggest stars. So like you might've been a slow burn, but I think your potential is great.

Would shine through. Would shine through, yeah. He's gonna be casting soon. I think you would for sure. Isaac, come on. Oh my God. Oh, that's true, yeah. A couple tequila sodas. Drunk, Isaac? Are you fun?

I might be, yeah, I might be out of control. Well, he just says stuff that, like, he usually has a filter for. Yeah, I do. So, not saying that, like, you're like a messy drunk. You don't really get drunk. I like drama, though. That's the issue.

So, I'd be- Isaac would be in there, stirring the pot and be like, yeah, I think I'm gonna go and, like, send this. And I'd do this. We'd be like, it'd be like episode two, and I'd be like, it's my time. And I'd be like, there's somebody in this house that's not serious about it. Yes, I didn't leave.

That's crazy. Isaac does love the drama, so I think you would give better confessionals. Who is more dramatic between the two of you? Can we just agree that we're equal? Absolutely not. Isaac. I am dramatic.

I'm way more dramatic. I'm dramatic for sure, yeah. I love it. I'm dramatic both in like loving the drama. Like I love a good juicy combo, but then I also will like have a quick meltdown. Like interesting Nick, I feel like, and I, so, okay, so if you go out with the guys

and like there's some like tea maybe with the wives, with the girlfriends or friends of whatever, like do you come home and you're like, Alison, listen to this shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you tell me, I'm telling. No, he'll text me. I'm like, you don't leave out a detail. Nothing.

No, he'll text me like mid day and be like, I have some juicy info. Like remind me when I get home. Fine. I'm like, no, it's fun. But I'm like, I don't like, I have to wait hours. No, yeah, that's fucked up. I'm like, call me. Nick, I'm like, wait, so what happened? He's like, no, it's fun, but I'm like, I have to wait hours? No, yeah, that's fucked up. I'm like, call me. Nick, I'm like, wait, so what happened?

He's like, he said it was nice. And I'm like. You're like, that's not what he said. No, but what else? Yeah. What else? And then what she said. Like, was he happy when he said it? Yeah, what was his body language?

Like, Nick's like. Oh no, Isaac gives all the info. I love it, yeah, I love it. And then he gives his own opinion before asking it. It's like, I love it. No, listen, I'm dramatic, but only when it's about me. Like dramatic telling your own stories or like dramatic situation happens and you're like,

oh my God, this is trash. It's the end of the world. I'm so drama. It's the end of the world, the life is the ding. I've gotten really good in my years of aging and maturity to recognize that I need to not be dramatic and that small things don't matter. So I'm really good at coming across as not dramatic, but my instinct is to lose my shit internally.

Feel that, feel that. Also, I think having a child has changed that a little bit. My God, yeah, that humbles you. Because you're like, okay, none of this really matters. I think you're still a little dramatic. Yeah, for sure. It's always in you. I mean. I feel like having a child brought it a little bit more out.

You're like, I didn't get any sleep last night. I'm like, you literally slept seven hours, you're okay. I can't remember the last seven hour night. Two nights ago, definitely wasn't last night, but. Last night was. Was she up last night? We went to, this is where the drama comes out. We went to sleep at 1 a.m.

So that's, that was our fault. Allie refuses to go to sleep early. So we always it's brutal. I'm tired right now Did she make you watch TV for no reason? Yeah, she's like I just watch Grey's Anatomy before bed and I'm like Like put it on No turn that shit off. I don't want to be a part of it. I put it on. I had to beg. I'm like, so what about the show? And you're like, well, no, I thought we were going to bed. And I'm like, but I was just thinking it could be fun

if we put on a show and you're like, no, I'm already asleep. But I'm like, no, you're talking to me. You're like, you're full on combo. No, your eyes are open. I don't know what you're talking about. He's like, I'm sleep talking, actually. I'm trying. He was trying.

I make Isaac stay up with me. Well, cause I'm pumping still. So if I'm pumping, I feel like he has to give me his sleep cause he can't give me his boobs cause that doesn't do anything. Honestly, respect. So yeah, if I have to do it, you have to, I was going to say watch, that's weird.

But you have to be there. No, I know. That's how, whenever I would like wake up in the middle of the night in Nurse River, I would wake him up first because I'd be like we're both gonna be away. We're gonna work together Yeah, like then then you're gonna burp her Yeah, and then you're gonna get her to fall back. It's like the assembly line It's like I'm gonna give you the baby. You're gonna change the diaper bring her back to me

I'm gonna feed her and then you're gonna put her back. Yeah, we're going to whirlwind We've done enough. Yeah. Yeah, Isaac. Yeah, no, you guys absolutely have. I was just zoned out, just lack of sleep, I'm sorry. Oh my God. The dramatic comment.

What's our next question? Question number three, what show would your partner most want to do? Reality show. Yeah, like. Reality TV show that you would most want to do. That I would wanna do, so this is to be clear. Is this on any network? What show would your partner would want to do? That I would want to do, so this is to be clear. Is this on any network?

What show would your partner most want to do? Yes. Let's just, yeah, just go anything. Let's see if we can. Wait, I think we need some guidance here. Wait, would I? No, would I? Him. You answered already.

I don't even have an answer yet. Yeah, you already, this is well thought out. This is marinated for a sec. This is, you talked about it. So what show would I be on? Yes. What I want to be on What do you want to? Okay, I'm in it for Natalie's answer because you're excited I mean Hard Knocks is reality TV. Oh

Okay, what would I actually want to be on? I'm a professional athlete. I mean, technically not, but uh No, technically you are. They're still paying our insurance. I think I'd be a good bachelor. I think I'd be good. So I'm gonna go with the bachelor. So the bachelorette. I don't think I'd be good on the bachelorette. Well, then you don't get to be the bachelor.

That works. Yeah, that's true. You're like, this is a starting point. I said, if single, bachelor in paradise. Really? Because I think you would enjoy everybody hooking up with everybody, like an hour after everybody, and you would find that juicy.

But I don't think you would last long, because I think you would leave and be like, you know what, this isn't for me. I'd be like, this dude is tripping. That'd be me in the confessional. This dude is tripping. It's weird to envision your husband slash a person you've been together with for 10 years

on a dating show. I'm like, I don't know you in that capacity. We could have done Naked and Afraid. I've never seen that. Oh my god, it would be him in the woods trying to survive while naked. With another person, but yeah. He would not last.

With another person. Yeah, with another woman. I would also say, thank god it's not Love Island. Because then it's like, oh, you just want to date a bunch of people? Yeah, then it gets, Yeah. Yeah. You want to date a bunch of people?

See, I'm actually not thinking the same way, Alison, I kind of wish that I was, but I was not. I'm curious. You were excited. Oh yeah, now I'm interested. Love Island? Love is blind? Love is blind.

Oh, that would have been a good one. We were watching it last night and every time they proposed, Nick was like, I can't. Every time, it's what I love so much about Love is Blind because every time someone proposes in the fucking pods, it fucking gives me the heebie-jeebies. It's gross.

You're proposing to a fucking wall. And then when they get down, they're like, are you on one knee? I would be, I would be must be perched up here. I'd be like, yeah. It is the most fucking cringe moment. I'll never, it'll never not be cringy.

I'm sorry, but like, I couldn't do Love is Blind. Look, oh, no, looks matter a lot to me. Oh my God, yeah. I'm sorry. And like, and on that show is if you're like, if you're like, what size t-shirts do you wear? You're like the biggest asshole in the fucking world.

Yeah, who's the guy with deep D? Or what was her name? Oh yeah, a Shane. Shane? Oh, Shane. He's like, yeah, like, can I carry you at a festival? No, that was great. Like, wait, what?

Why are those weights too? Like, why, like, there's a lot of things that like, matter more than, certainly as much. Where's your nose in relation to your eyes? Do you have wide set eyes? No, the girl who said she looks like Megan Fox. I actually think she does. I met her and she does.

Right? In person. You don't have to be identical to look like somebody. In person, you're like, every guy has told you this. Yes. Yeah, that was, yeah. They had some interesting scenes. But I couldn't do it.

I would be terrified. I could not, I would. Oh no, I know I would be the villain after, because I would be like, sorry, I'm not interested in you. Every time, I do feel bad, because every time we do watch these shows, I'm like, okay, and Nick, right now,

if you saw me come out of the, when the doors opened, what would you do? Let's reenact. Let's reenact. Okay, and what would your speech be if you had to do this? And what would it be? Quick, tell me! I feel like it has to be people who actually don't care.

Like, I care way too much about height. Would you guys fall in love in the pods? For sure. Yeah. I think we for sure would. Because I think that's why we started dating in the first place. We could talk for hours.

Yeah. No, I think we would. we would fall asleep on the phone Final question. Oh, what is your partner's dream one-on-one date like with who or where like when you're on like bachelor and whatnot You know how you get your one-on-one dates. Yeah. Like, and it's on top of a mountain. Are you guys going to a restaurant? Are you guys, don't have enough fantasy suite? I don't know. But like, what would be your ideal one-on-one?

Oh my God. What would be her ideal one-on-one? Yes. Oh, mine. No, no. What would mine be? His, his. Your guessing line, yeah.

I just kinda wanna hear the answer. Oh, are you writing there? Get it right. This is my dream date. Do you have yours? Do you have yours cooked up? She has it cooked up. Are we boring? Yeah, we like to just like, we honestly want to just sleep for like eight hours. That could be it.

This is my dream date on a reality TV show or today? Well today if you were on a reality TV show. It could be big, it could be small. Go ahead, Allison, what do you think? Yeah, I just wanna hear yours. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. What do you think? For this show, I'll guess.

I feel like we'd be doing like cooking. We do like a cooking class. I said includes food, culture, and good views. Oh my gosh. Cooking with a view. I knew it involved food, that's for sure. It's a big boy season. We just went on a food tour not too long ago

and it was, and I wanna go on a food tour wherever I go. In California? No, in Hawaii. Yeah, random. You're trying to town. I would say walking the streets of New York, drinking endless amounts of cappuccinos and shopping. I said.

That's like super specific by the way. I said no talking, no touching, on Packer Twitter while watching a Packer game while high. That's the happy place. I'm like, is that his happy place? Who didn't ask me a happy place? It's a dream date. No, I absolutely zooted watching football.

Yeah, just- Zooted, not touching. Not talking. I feel like that describes mine, because I don't like talking or touching a lot. That's a vibe for sure. Yeah, she's like, I don't even look at him really. Yeah, that's Nick is out with.

Yeah, I'm like, just kind of chill. What's your sign? I'm a Libra. I talk all day. Who do we know that's a Libra? Is that badge? What month is that? No, he's a Berr. September. that's a Libra? Is that Badge? What month is that now? He's a Burr.

September. He's a Leo. September into October. Oh, my brother's a Libra. If it's mid to late October, he's a Scorpio. That makes sense. He's October 2nd. Yep.

What is his personality like? I feel like he gives similar vibes. He likes to talk a lot. I feel like they have similar vibes. I'm like, if he's watching this. What's your sign? Amateurs. Yep. What are you Virgo? I don't know any Virgos either. Isn't it Virgo right? Wait

What did you give your wife for her birthday? Oh, that's a great fucking question. Oh I mean, do we want a deep dive? I planned a whole staycation at the montage in Laguna Beach I was three weeks postpartum Going to a hotel it was four and a half weeks Postpartum you didn't appreciate it. I had it. I had the I had everything set up though for baby and we're 20 minutes from it. I appreciate the energy you put into it It was a miss shot. It was a miss shot. It was a miss shot. Oh, yeah, I do Well, I don't know what it's like to be

Three four weeks postpartum from a c-section. I also had just gotten re-hospitalized. Oh, wow Comments you weren't you were aiming high for sure. Yeah Yeah, Nick has no plans, so he's been asking all of our guests what they've received. Yeah, what? So he can take some notes. What's your love language? Everything.

All of them. Wow, that's. But I think mainly physical touch. Okay. For sure. I do love gifts and quality time. I feel like surprising, which I mean, it's not a surprise if I recommend this and he does it,

but I feel like surprising with a massage experience, staycation, champagne. Have you ever heard of Kalamiga's Ranch? No. A beautiful place. It's where I'm going with my boyfriend for my birthday. Oh, wow. Her birthday's the day after mine.

Wow. So. Major Vorego interview. Why don't you go to Vegas? Vegas has good food, they have good hotels. I wanted to try the food tour in Vegas. We need to do a food tour in Vegas. Yeah, that sounds nice.

We will. With Viator. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, we actually are doing that. Well, you have some planning to do. Yeah, you guys get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you're like, I need to just be playing.

I'm like, go to Vegas. Oh, like take a helicopter to Vegas? Can you, yeah I guess you could do that. That seems stressful. Why? You get motion sickness from helicopters. Do you? Yeah, I feel like when we went to Catalina,

I was like, this is stressful. You wouldn't know if you were on The Bachelor. Oh yeah, classic Bachelor. Have you ever been on a helicopter? No I could have been you want to go is that like you're you don't have anything else planned A Catalina day date We're gonna have a nice day full day

It's gonna be fun First birthday after having a baby. Ooh, yeah. Birthday. Weekend. Well, it does fall on a Saturday. Did you get her a push present? Yes. He got me an incredibly expensive Louis Vuitton bag

that I was like, I just can't, I can't keep this. Oh. You're like, I just, this is. So you did return it. I did return it and then got a little cousin thing out. Oh, cute. So it was like much, a much. Practical. More practical.

Just a humble coin. I saved him so much money that. You're welcome. No. Actually, he paid for my birthday. It was my first present. It was my first present too. It's time to double down for the birthday.

Time to double down. Time to double down. Time to double down. For the birthday. Yeah, so you have extra money. And it falls on Labor Day weekend, so we have to go. Yeah. Oh, so you can travel, wow. Or we could just have the whole weekend be like,

about the birthday. I'm not gonna lie, if you haven't booked a flight, like it's. Well, real quick, have y'all traveled with your daughter? Oh my God, millions and millions and millions of times. Yeah, we have too. It's a totally different challenge. Yeah, no, yeah, definitely.

First class, like champagne's a little different when you have a baby. Doesn't exist. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, can I just please get a warm, a thing of water, please? I have to warm this bottle up, quick! Like, hurry.

One time the flight attendant took the water and then put airplane water inside it of the breast milk. No. And he brought it back and it was like, the bottle was really full and I was like, what did you do? And he's like, put water in it. I can't imagine, your anxiety, that'd be like.

I'm like, no, it's ruined. I would be like, laying on the fucking plane. Please, you have to. Lay on the fucking plane. Like my titties only have so much to give. Like we gotta do something. I would put on the intercom, does anyone have breast milk currently in their body?

And the worst part was like this like 50 year old dude, so you already knew like, I'm not even gonna bother explaining to him the crisis that just happened. You know, yeah. Like bro, you don't know what you just did. I don't even let Isaac handle it anymore, just from like past experiences of accidentally dropping it.

Well, I'm like, my thing is she's exclusively pumping. There's so much margin for error. Like, putting the pumps together, sterilizing the pumps, bottles, keeping the bottle, or keeping the milk cold. Ally's like, who cares? No excuses. There's so much that can go wrong. It's tough.

It's only good in the fridge for 24 hours. Three days. Oh my God, really? Yeah. It's good out for four hours, just room temperature, and then good in the fridge for four days, and then in the freezer for six months. I feel like we were misinformed.

We were like, we've gotta get rid of this milk. It's been in there for 23 hours. Oh no. It's not like we had milk to spare anyway. We didn't. My body was like, I'm only gonna produce just enough for you to get by. You're like, thanks.

I became obsessed with increasing my milk supply. Oh, I was also, but it just didn't work for me. I was like, I'll eat all these cookies. I'm gonna drink the tea, I'm gonna do, and it was like, oh, they're so cute. You're like nothing. Yeah. I don't know how you guys do it.

Allie pumps every three hours. I'm like, this seems miserable. Those little power pumping on the way here. It is. Yeah, I'm kinda ready to be done. Our next child is. Straight to the boob. Yeah, no pumping included.

That's so, I mean mean I feel like I prioritized Pumping over nursing because I would have this like vision of I need to be in control like I need to know Yeah, how many ounces she's getting and then I felt like my body got used to the pump and not her and so I just Like stop me. That's like where I kind of messed up in the beginning is I didn't know you needed a certain hospital grade pump Because if you do like a portable pump all the time, it doesn't suction enough. I didn't know you needed a certain hospital grade pump. Because if you do like a portable pump all the time, it doesn't suction enough. Didn't know that. So again, so much room for error.

So much room for error. So like, next baby. Why is there not a manual? No, there's not. Everyone's truth is different. And there's just like, you never know what to believe. And it's like, I thought I was doing like what I was supposed to do.

And really it was like hurting me. You know what you did? What? Your best. Thank you. That was cute. Wait, hold on. I say that to do and really it was hurting me. You know what you did? What? Your best. Thank you. Oh, that was cute. Wait, hold on, I say that to you all the time and you'll be, I don't get it.

Oh, you. Well, no, because I'm annoyed. I'll be like, Allie, you're doing your best. You're like, shut the fuck up. I love you so much. I literally go, oh, my best isn't fucking good enough. No, literally. That is so funny.

Thanks so much for coming, guys. You're so much fun. Absolutely, appreciate you guys. Where can the people find you? On the streets. Online. They can find us, Alice and Cooch on all socials, podcasts, Sunday Sports Club podcasts, on wherever you get your podcast.

At Isaac Rochelle. If you find Allie, you'll find me. There you go. Well, I look forward to seeing you on the football field. Yeah. I hope it's with the Green Bay Packers. That'd be great. If not, I'll still root for you. Allie's you'll find me. There you go. Well, I look forward to seeing you on the football field. Yeah. I hope it's with the Green Bay Packers. That'd be great. If not, I'll still root for you.

Allie's like, Green Bay. Would you say no? I'm not trying to move. No, I wouldn't say no, but I'd be here. You'd definitely not say no. I would definitely not. We've got tons of options. I'm just gonna manifest maybe a little bit

of a different route. I just don't like winter jackets, but I'll do it. From a Michiganer. Coming from somebody that's from Michigan. You're from Michigan. Yeah, what are we talking about? Yeah, I'm fake, it's okay. Thanks for listening, guys. Happy 800, thanks for listening.

Whether you've been from the beginning or you just tuned in, we appreciate you. We'll be back on Monday. We'll be back on Monday for Ask Nick Tuesday. We'll be getting into the whole, did you watch the Scott Peterson? Yes. Yes, we, it's juicy.

We'll talk about it on Monday. Do you think he did it? I mean what? but why wouldn't the judge approve for them to look at the DNA in the in the van The blood the human blood that's on a mattress a mile away from our house. Why did the judge deny that weird? That's weird. Did you watch the peacock doc? There's a Netflix stock and watch the Peacock Dock? There's a Netflix Dock and there's a Peacock Dock. No, but I've listened to the crime junkies. I've listened to that.

Why did he sell her car? Weird. If you're cheating and your wife dies, you're guilty. Sorry. I'm not like our court system. You're guilty until proven innocent in my head. Wow. That's...

We're married. I'm scared. Jesus, imagine being married to her. We got the bachelorette finale as well. What else are we talking about? Oh, so love is blind UK. Okay. Oh Next Tuesday on reality recap. So have a happy Labor Day everybody and Wish Nellie. Happy birthday. Oh She's like plan my fucking weekend for my birthday. Thanks.

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