The Viall Files - E82 Bachelor Recap - Ep 3: Defending Alayah with Betsy Sodaro

Episode Date: January 21, 2020

Today we have comedian and actress Betsy Sodaro on to talk about episode three of Pilot Pete’s season of The Bachelor. We talk some more about Champagne Gate, Nick defends Alayah’s actions, and they discuss the backstory of Victoria P.   Leave a review and you could win free merch! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: ECHELON: https://echelonfit.com/viall HUNT A KILLER: https://www.huntakiller.com/viall See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

happy tuesday everybody or actually it might be monday night yeah it might be monday night because whatever screw it we're just gonna we're gonna drop batch of the recap as soon as you are ready to listen. Another great episode so far. Fun season. Fun season. Really enjoying it. You are enjoying it? Sure.

No, I do think it's pretty entertaining. I do too. There's a natural playbook, obviously. Yeah. We get into it, obviously, a little bit more when we recap the episode with Betsy Sedaro, a good friend, a wonderfully funny person, and huge Bachelor fan. Yes. Listen, sometimes I am getting a little just exhausted by, like, it's early on.

This is the type of drama we want. But it's like, we talk about this in the episode, like the influencer world in this, like it really seems to have taken over. Where like the Kellys and Sarahs of the world who seem like just ultra normal in other seasons, they would be like a place for them. And now it seems so out of place.

I thought that they were going to start trying to get more real, in quotation marks, people and start trying to get away from the influencer world. What do you mean you thought? I don't know. I heard that they were.

They probably said that knowing that they casted a bunch of influencers. I mean, it's what? I don't know. I heard that they were. They probably said that knowing that they casted a bunch of influencers. I mean, it's tough. I don't know. This is the world we live in, you know? Yeah. And it's not to shit on some of these. I mean, this is, I mean, you know, we've talked about it.

It's a younger cast. Fine. Whatever. And that's what they kind of grew up on in a sense, you know? So this is, here we are. But sometimes it's just a little, the Kellys of the world are a breath of fresh air. You think Kelly and Andy are similar

or Andy is more of a firecracker? Because they're brunette lawyers? Yeah, I don't know. The parallels sometimes people take on the show are overly simplistic. I don't know. I've never met Kelly. I doubt her and andy are that

similar yeah i'm i would bet the field so to speak on uh if if they have brunette hair and their lawyers that there's probably a bunch of other differences um anyways but do you think andy was more of a normal person who got far instead of like the influencer type? I get it. I think there was no, when Andy was on Juan Pablo season, I don't even think the word influencer was a word in the context of that it is now. And it certainly wasn't a mainstream word. I mean, nowadays you could go anywhere in the country, say the word influencer and someone's going to know what you're referring to and

literally five years ago if someone were to say hey do you think andy dorfman's a influencer most people would be like i don't what do you what yeah uh-huh yeah you know so no i don't i don't think that was the same more importantly d are are brad and and jenn finally going to get together? Because it seems like that's what everyone's saying. The SAG Awards were last night. People took some pictures of them. I feel bad. Why? The pressure these two must feel.

So you can have some empathy for them, right? Because you're similar situation. To some degree, sure. not the entire world freaking out if i simply were to you know hang out with an ex or whatever uh slightly i guess i can relate but no no not in the way i mean imagine here are two people who were married yeah uh they didn't work out yeah it's been years have passed and I don't know anything about their relationship. But imagine wanting to be able to show some sweetness or just, you know, like as Brad did, you know, stop to watch Jennifer Aniston give a speech, which is just in general kind of a polite thing to do for anyone, you know. Jennifer Aniston gave a speech,

which is just in general kind of a polite thing to do for anyone you know. And then it just, it's turned into this massive thing. What if either of them are actually dating someone right now? You know? What if Brad met a girl not too long ago? They've been on a few dates, had a nice time. He's excited about the possibility. And then she wakes up to like the literal world, They've been on a few dates, had a nice time. He's excited about the possibility.

And then she wakes up to like the literal world of, especially certainly America, freaking out over Brad and Jen having a moment, which again, I'll admit it's cute. It's like you want to work out why do people do that? Why do people, why do we obsess over past relationships that we were fans of? I saw a funny tweet.

They're like, you guys just like them because they have the same low lights. That's so funny. The same low lights? Yeah. What is that? The same hair dye color. Well, why do we do that? We do that a lot.

Well, I think a lot of us, we don't like to see divorce. You know what I mean? Still in our culture, like we wanna believe in true love and romance and we really believed in it with them for whatever reason and. America's sweetheart and America's captain, so to speak, I guess.

Yeah. I don't know. We love a good story. People, I mean, it's like people lost their shit and that and that it was over nothing it was yeah he simply watched her give a speech and then you know it's a still shot but like he it looked like he was like grabbing her grabbing her and didn't want her to leave i mean whoever took that photo bravovo. Because like, and truly who knows what that moment was really like, but they really. What do you think?

Do you agree with that idea of like true love and will find itself back? No, not at all. Do I think Brad and Jennifer are like a real life notebook thing? Is that what you're asking? Or do you like fall prey to that feeling of like, oh,

I just wish they could get back together type of romantic. As a fan, I get that. Like, yes, as a fan, like, I will admit that if,

if Brad and Jennifer got together, not that it would affect my life at all, but would I like have a moment and go, that's neat, you know? Good for them. Of course I would. Yeah, I totally would. I've always been a huge Brad Pitt fan.

I've always liked Jennifer Aniston. And yeah, I'll admit, it's like it's fun to see them together. I remember as a kid, I wanted for some reason, I don't know why, Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears to... You did?

Like when i was a kid it was almost as you know because i you know i was in high school when they were mainstream yeah it's it not only did i want them to get together it didn't i couldn't understand how they couldn't be you know like when i'm young it, I mean, it's just, she's the pop queen and he's, and like, how are they not to, it was so simple. And then as you get older, you're like, yeah, she was just a girl. And God only knows like if they even got along and yet fans are just like, you have to date, you have to date, you have to date.

I remember, you know. It's the same with bachelor people. It's just wild. It's wild to me that we kind of forget that these are like people and like, they may not get a log. And again, like they were married and it didn't end. And who knows what the relationship was like and,

and, and all these other like real life situations. They're still real people who have real, it's, it is funny. It's funny how we are. Yeah. But,

uh, I saw, um, Joe and Kendall haven't really been posting of each other the past week. There's some thoughts that maybe they're breaking on the rocks. I heard someone talk about that. You did? Who? There was an iHeart concert this weekend. Yeah, she didn't go.

No, she went. She went, but he didn't go. Yeah. You noticed. Someone's pointed it out to me i don't always know these things but hopefully you can go to your concert by yourself exactly exactly there's nothing wrong with space in a relationship there's nothing wrong with space so hopefully it's just that are you worried yeah a little i mean that's a cute couple it is a cute couple, exactly. I mean, if Joe and Kendall break up, will we be allowed to believe in bachelor love anymore?

Guess not. We still have Dean and Kaylin. I will tell you what, Dean and Kaylin. Right? They're growing on me. I saw, I got to catch up with Dean over the weekend. Yeah. After his accident.

Wow, glad he's alive. Yeah. They're doing great. They are. They're very cute together. I didn't think I would be this much of a fan of Caitlin, especially when it was the Hannah.

I never would have thought I would have the thoughts I have now going in that I did early in that season. Who would have thought? You know what? Sometimes your first impressions aren't always right. Very true. Sometimes true love does

exist, right? Right, Nick? I don't believe in it because it doesn't believe in me. I'm a cynic. I'm a cynic. What do you want me to say? Well, we have a great episode for you Betsy Sedaro hysterical lovely

we talk a little bit bachelor I gotta say on unpopular take but I think I think I got a bad beat and I think if anyone got bullied this episode it it was Alea. Ooh.

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I'm so good. I'm so nice to have you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so pumped. I am as well. For those of you who don't know,

Betsy is an extremely funny comedian, talented actor, improv extraordinaire. Thank you. I met Betsy. She's one of the first people I met when I came to LA. That's so cool. She befriended me early.

She's a very nice person. As a lost guy roaming around in LA, clearly not knowing what I'm doing. Yeah, I saw you at Birds and I was a fan and I in LA, clearly not knowing what I'm doing. Yeah, I saw you at Bird's, and I was a fan, and I was like, oh. And I pounded a couple of beers, and I was like, I gotta go be like, come do our show. And then it all worked out.

Betsy is part of an incredible improv group called Bangarang, and they perform every Friday night. Yeah, at UCB Franklin, 8 o'clock. Nick came on and told stories and played with us. I did. Oh, you improvised with them too? Yeah. Nice.

They're like a pros pro team. Yeah. So I just yesed and my way out of it. Hey. You did great. And it was a lot of fun. It was really great. And also, you know, Betsy's also a huge Bachelor fan.

Big time. When did you start watching? I think it, wait, what's, Andy was your first season? She was. I think it was the one before that. I can't remember the dude. Oh, Juan Pablo. Juan Pablo.

Juan, no, then it was before that. Because I remember him, and I was really rooting for him in the other one. Yeah. He fooled us all. The Bachelorette one. Yeah. Yeah. And then it was like, oof.

He got like five seconds of air time on him. Yeah, but he looked good. Everybody was like, whoa, he's like mysterious. Let's get some diversity in here. Get a guy from South America. Yes. I was in 100% on Juan Pablo and then like two episodes into his season,

I was like, oh man. But he was fun to watch. It was a great season. It was a great season. It was a fun season. So yes, okay. And then, yeah. So I think the one before Juan Pablo.

Yeah. Who was that? Do we remember? Wasn't that, that was Sean. It was Sean. The virgin Sean Lowe. Oh. Is it not?

No, no, before, it would be a woman before Juan Pablo. Well, sure, the bachelorette, well, the bachelorette was Desiree. Oh, Desiree. Oh my God, Desiree. Desiree. And then Sean was before Desiree. So I must have watched Desiree's. Whoa, I don't remember it.

I don't remember it either. You have it all memorized, right? From season one to- From Sean, kind of from Sean on, I do. Just Sean wasn't that much before me. And then I watched Desiree's season in preparation for Andy's. And then Juan Pablo's season was airing while I was going through the casting process.

Oh my God. Okay. From then on, I've kind of seen all. But before that, I know Emily Maynard was there. Yeah, I watched that one. There's a two-time Bachelor. So I certainly have heard of plenty of them. I've never watched any of those seasons.

I've seen a couple clips of Emily Maynard's season. So they're putting old seasons on Netflix now? Wait, are they? I've always wanted to see season one. Oh, they should do that. Jason, they have Jason. Do you think they'll ever put yours on? I feel like you'd have a resurgence of like.

I'm rooting for it. I want that Netflix clout. Gotta get that Netflix clout. Gotta get that Netflix clout. Get worldwide. Yes. That's exciting. I know. I'm going to watch all of it.

I would rather have my season of Paradise and Bachelor. I'd take that. I'd rather have them not put Andy's or Caitlin's season on. Oh, but that's where we fell in love with you. Maybe you, Betsy. I did for sure. I was into you. I hope that doesn't creep you out.

Not at all. I mean, now there's 13. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, I love this show so much. Yeah. How are we liking this season so far? I'm here for it.

That champagne debacle, that's good television. They play that clip nonstop and honestly, I don't hate them for it. I don't,

and I hope it lasts the entire season. I hope that girl has to keep being like, I'm not a champagne thief. I would never do that. I would never do that. I would never.

Do you think she knew? No. I know never do that. I would never do that. I would never. Do you think she knew? No. I know me neither, but I wish. I mean, I agree with Hannah Ann when she's crying. Just like, why would I do that? Yeah, it makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense. It makes no sense.

But you know what, Kelsey, turns out, not even a fan of champagne. Yeah, that blew my mind. That was funny, yeah. That blew my mind. That was funny. Yeah. That blew my mind. Oh, Kelsey. I mean, Hannah Ann, we can agree,

kind of destroyed Kelsey in the game of wits during that conversation, right? Absolutely. Hannah Ann's a savage. She's top four for me. She's going all the way. You think she's Peter's top four

or she's your top four? There's a difference. My top four,'s peter's top four or she's your top four there's my top four but also peter's top four yeah she uh she's smart i mean she's well i mean i don't know what she would do it on the sat or whatever but she's clever those don't determine that's true i ate shit on my essay uh i went in very hungover oh. I didn't do so well in the English section. I can't read fast. Oh, yeah. That'll get you. Yeah.

Math got me. English, everything got me. I did well in the math and science. Oh, my God. Okay. But they were like, I got the result. They're like, we're not sure if you can read. Oh, man.

That's huge. But you're pretty good at math. Hey, there you go. It wasn't that quite. It wasn't good. I still got into college. Oh, okay. So you do know how to read.

Yes. Thank God. That was a joke. No, it wasn't. No, Hannah Ann's super, she's clever. First of all, she totally, she destroyed Kelsey, right? Yeah. Yeah, and not in a mean way of just kind of like, okay, I hear you. she's clever most like first of all she totally just she destroyed kelsey right yeah yeah and not in a mean way of just kind of like okay i hear you like we should talk about it and kelsey's like

fuck you she's very poised and like yeah every time she gave kelsey an opportunity to speak she just let kelsey kind of oh yeah dig herself absolutely she's like okay continue talking you and then she just simply pointed something out that you know she said well she's like okay continue talking you and then she just simply pointed something out that you know she said well she's like listen it's weird but like because the bully oh what do you think of the bully um the i thought that was a little extreme where it's like she's kelsey's just pissed man she's not bullying you like she wasn't she's just straight up mad at you it's a word wildly overused in that world and i feel anxiety like bullying and then every one of them is like oh i'm having anxiety attack and it's like

you would know you aren't no you are you're still i have those a lot yeah like yeah yeah you're anxious yeah that's fine yeah but like yeah they throw that around a lot or like panic attack and it's like no panic attacks they'll fuck you up like they uh but vanessa and and rachel uh had a fight on my season and and bowling was used then that just wasn't shown oh yeah wait who was right oh yeah yeah what did rachel do that she said was bullying they just didn't oh vanessa thought rachel was the bully yeah what did she do nothing i don't know they didn't like each other that's in the end they just didn't like each other and to kelsey's point uh you know kelsey didn't say i mean kelsey's right she's like just because i said some

it's weird because what she said sounds like she's proving hannah ann's point because she's like well just because i said mean words to you yeah doesn't mean i'm a bully and i'm thinking well that's kind of what a bully does yeah but but it wasn't but just because you say something unpleasant doesn't mean you are bullying them right right it just means you're upset with them. Yeah. Like bullying, I feel it would have had to have been kind of more consistent up even before the champagne or like. Yeah.

You know who I think got bullied this episode and we'll get to this in a bit. Aaliyah. Oh. I think. Nick is team Aaliyah, everybody. No, I'm team. No, I. We'll get into that. Yeah, we'll I think it's team Alay. Everybody. No, I'm team. No, I will get into that. Yeah, we'll get into it.

But if anyone got bullied this episode, it was Alay. She got annihilated by the entire house. Yeah. They were all just like, let's fucking see. Ship Alay a hard man. Like where it was just like, whoa, chill out, everyone. I understand it. I feel like she's the worst.

Based on, you also would be in the camp of, I just don't like her. Yeah. But that doesn't make anyone right about her. What do you mean? Well, you cannot like someone's person. In terms of not liking them. For example, what Sydney said, I wouldn't hang out with her. Yeah.

She's not my favorite. Not my vibe. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay to say. Those are all true things. But they, especially in that world, what Sydney, and it sounds like maybe you are equating that to like, that makes her wrong and her bad.

And yeah, like that doesn't make her. And for Peter, where it's like. Like you're not right for Peter. Like, no. Like that doesn't make her. And for Peter. Fake. Where it's like. Like you're not right for Peter. Like no, you just don't like her. Yeah. Like we don't know.

Well, you know the line they always say, if you're into her, then you couldn't be into me. Also might be true. That's just a manipulation. Everyone always says that. And it's a line. Well, yeah. They put, it's a kind of manipulation tactic to put the bachelor or bachelorette on the spot.

They're like, your taste is bad? Yeah. Yeah, your picker's off, man. Yeah, come on. If you're into her, you can't at all be into me. It's like, no, anybody can be into anybody. From a guy's point of view, it's like, no, no, no. I don't want to have sex with both of you.

But yeah, where it's like there's 30 hot ladies coming at you. That must have felt crazy, right? It sucks. But in the past, that's happened, and they have been bad people, and they don't ever listen. What do you mean by bad people? That's also good television. It is good television.

What do you mean by bad people? Okay, so well, Jed. Well, actually, people didn't know. Luke. Everyone came at her and told her Luke was bad and she didn't listen. He was wild. See? He terrified me. He is terrifying.

Yeah, I mean. But also it was good television. It was great television. And Jake Pavelta, he ended up with the villain of his season because he didn't listen to anyone. I mean, Luke particularly, I don't know if he's a bad guy or not I've never met him in person I'm a little careful about like that's fair he certainly demonstrated on TV some toxic masculinity and certainly yeah a lot of toxic behavior again I am reluctant to define people as human beings based off what you see very bachelor

but yes i mean he he certainly maybe showed some signs because there's a lot of people who look great on the show and they're terrible people and people who don't look particularly great where you're like you're kind of you're cool man You're cool, man. Yeah. You're a totally cool person. It's got to be the wildest thing to do. It's got to make you feel nuts. Right? Being on the show. Being on that show. Right?

Right. Does it make you feel nuts? Watching it, it makes me feel nuts. Does it make you feel, are you allowed to like read books and stuff while you're on it you know those read those rules are are loose some people like sometimes people bring books okay it seems like i feel like sometimes that they are tougher with cast okay uh and others it kind of just depends on i think every season in terms of how uh the cast is assimilating with the atmosphere yeah okay in terms of like are they kind of buying into the atmosphere?

And by buying into it, I just mean like, yeah, listen, you signed up for this show. So this is what, how we're, so like, do you want to be here or do you not? Like it's not, it's not anything other than that, right? Because some people will show up and be like, pointing out cameras and saying this is stupid. And it's just like, well, then go.

That's so funny. You don't want to be here. Yeah, why did you show up? You knew what this was going to be. So, I don't know. What do you think about the thing about her manipulating Victoria by telling her not to say they knew each other? Oh, so like, are we just, that's a discussion.

Should we just get to the... Oh, yeah. Are we missing... Well, I'll sit real quick with Victoria P. Victoria P is the first one-on-one. First one-on-one. Holy shit. Right?

Yeah, sad. Holy shit, sad. And it felt like Peter was just kind of like, you're the- Yeah, you're it. Oh, really? You think so? I got some vibe from that.

I'm a cynic. I'm just like, oh, that's a great bachelorette performance. It's a really great audition. Oh, shit. Okay. I'm sure, like. Okay. You know, it's like, whenever, when people start crying and they kind of look up into

the air. Oh. And start, like. Yeah. It's like, where's, find your light. Yeah, get your light. Listen, I, obviously, it's a, I'm sure a very true story. It has kind of hints of Christina from my season

in a very tough and traumatic childhood. Yeah. Which, hey, listen, that's very unfortunate. Yeah. Very sad. Yeah. You know, and especially for myself, someone who's had a very happy childhood,

like it's, you know, you'll hear that. I can't relate. Yeah. So it very happy childhood like it's you know you'll hear that i can't relate so it's easy to but you know listen peter handled himself well those are just uncomfortable sometimes it's so early it's got a great day bye are you ready are you ready but but i'm gonna tell it he was like i hope she opens up to me and she did that's the job of your one your first one-on-one is to tell your story. Oh, yes, of course. And your story might be, I'm good at basketball and I'm really happy to be here.

Or it might be, my dad died when I was two. My mom started drinking and I had to find food for my sister. Yeah. See, and I heard that and I was like winner right winner or bachelorette she that's a good call for bachelorette for next season what a story yeah could you watch

a whole season of victoria p she's a bit of a crier she's cried a lot so far and i get why maybe totally sad story like i understand i, I'm not sure. Maybe. There's a lot of crying so far. I mean, crying is good. I mean, I cry, don't get me wrong. I mean, I guess the pot calling the kettle black here, but. Hannah B cries all the time. Oh yeah.

I felt like Hannah B's, I don't know what it is. Sometimes when you watch the show, some crying seems, I don't know, less. Yeah, you're saying. No, listen, clearly her crying is justified. I am not saying that Victoria P should suck it in. And like she doesn't have a reason to cry. No, I mean, obviously she does. Okay.

She cries a lot. Yeah. But I guess I get why. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it was a nice date. It was a nice date. Peter.

Oh, I mean, except for I have to give her some shit, but apparently her big test of qualifying Peter for her love is drinking red wine. Red wine. Yeah. Come on. Red wine. That was a wild reaction to him saying red wine. Red wine. Yeah. Come on. Red wine. That was a wild...

You passed the test. That was a wild reaction to him saying red wine. I was like, wait, what? Are you red wine? Because I have a feeling if he said white,

she'd be like, oh, yeah, me too, man. It was so strange. No, I do believe that she would have, you know, I don't think it was disingenuous, but she probably would have said something just as outrageous of, well know i don't think it was disingenuous but she probably would have said

something just as outrageous of well i don't know about you mister you know wow you and your white wine yeah okay okay i guess i'll have to try to get over this date uh no i she like she uh flew up into my rankings after this date. You liked, that was a strong date for Victoria P. Yeah, when they were like, oh, have fun on your one-on-one. I was like, who's that? And then I was like, okay, she's going far. Yeah.

I mean, I'll be honest. Up until this date, I thought Kelsey and Victoria P were the same person. That's fair enough. Fair, fair. They look exactly alike. But very different people, turns out. Turns out, but they were both, well, Victoria P cried in our hometown package,

and then Kelsey was then crying about the champagne bottle. So it was just crying pretty blind. And I was like, oh, I literally thought, I didn't know there was a difference, turns out. Now I know. There's a difference.'s a difference now that's fair enough i feel the first like 10 episodes of every season i'm like wait who is that oh yeah it's just oh that's not that other person okay let's go but then victoria p kind of to back to your question we're. We're jumping all over. Yeah. Kind of threw Aaliyah under the bus. Oh, yeah, she did.

But reluctantly. Yeah. I don't think it was that reluctant. Yeah, she didn't want to have to do that. Yeah. Really forced it on her. Well, I just... I'm only going to say this, Peter,

because you're asking me and I don't want to lie to you. Is that a thing of like they could get disqualified for knowing each other? No, that's not a thing. I didn't think so. I like they could get disqualified for knowing each other i didn't think so i was like don't other people know each other yeah but it doesn't make alea a terrible person certainly and barely even a liar because here's what alea was thinking going in no she's seen the show a million times she saw last season she saw the anna b and that one and kaylin yes you know controversy

and so she's you know they all are afraid they're just afraid so she probably just floated it to to victoria she's like let's just not let's not say we have she didn't have malicious intentions she just was hoping like she just didn't probably want that to be used against her thinking i don't know these producers i don't trust them and it was silly that she said that, but like totally understandable. But isn't that manipulation? They're manipulating. They all are. They all are.

Oh, man. I mean, everybody. Yeah. You don't think there's a pure soul in the bunch? Not one. No, no. I do. I do.

I do. Her name's Sarah and she went home. I do. I do. Her name's Sarah and she went home. Sarah's like this babe who's like always sitting next to Peter, getting her ass kicked in a pillow fight. Doesn't say a word. She's stunning.

They keep flashing her and she's like clearly like, this is way too nuts for me. He said Sarah at one point. I was like, who's Sarah? I'm trying to pull up a picture. What's her last name? I don't know. I'll find it. I'll find it.

Sarah Coffin. Very pretty girl. Doesn't say a word. They're just like, you're too normal. You got to go. You don't want to be a part of this. Too well adjusted. Is it me or does it seem like we're truly in the uh the season of the

influencer if you're not a young if you're not a young overly catty play the game influencer you got no place on the show even kelly kelly's super normal the lawyer she seems rad she she clearly is this like her only reason she's still there is because she got to know Peter and there's a comfort level. And if it weren't for that, she would have been long gone because she's also too normal for this group. She would have absolutely been like,

I need to leave. This is too much for me. This is insane. But yeah, it is like, oh, you've already hung out with him. These girls are losing their shit over champagne. There's crying it is like and i've been seeing this um also in rupaul's drag race of that like influencer world

now taking over reality tv where it is like people are so scared or are so aware of everything that like, we don't get those really fun, real moments as much as we want. Like, and people are afraid to be a bad guy. Question it. Right. Like even again, even the Victoria P like clearly I'm assuming that'd be the biggest

scandal in the world. If she made that story up, but clearly that's a sad story and you know, she's doing it and it just it it does kind of come across as like you know again she has all she's also a pageant girl you know got everything you know i feel like i never thought i'd watch this episode and feel like i need to stand up for the pageant community because i felt like they really got shit on. You're doing it. Why are you standing up for them? Because, okay, let's just, the breaking

down, it's Aaliyah, right? It's a Sydney fight. Oh, yeah. Again, watching it, Aaliyah's not my cup of tea per se in terms of like personality wise of girl I might hang out with or find attractive. I'm more Sydney in terms of personality.

That being said, nothing that I saw about Alea was inauthentic or disingenuous. She's kind of genuinely like this, right? That's what I thought. Cause like even the editing was trying to show her being like, well, yeah yeah sometimes i put up a facade or whatever but that's just kind of how i do it that's what i've done my whole life

and all i heard there was the truth yeah i heard a girl admitting fault or like being honest about she was admitting something that could be used against her and she did it anyways yeah but do you think there's something to be said for her her two-facedness of like when she's sitting on the counter in her bikini top being like everyone thinks i'm this pretty little nice girl but i'm not and then the way she talks to peter she's like i'm just that's the pageant community i mean like hannah b like it's like everyone in pageant community, you've seen, like they, as Alayah said, they are literally coached to when you are, you know, front and center, on stage, on camera, not offend. I mean, shit, like the alternative to that

would be like a robot your whole life. Could you imagine having to do that 24 seven? If someone did that that you would be really criticized them thank god like once in a while you see the hannah beast come out which is like her alter ego of the print and proper so fun to hang out with i want to party with hannah b so bad uh but it's also i think a very human thing especially when i feel you're trying to impress a dude or something where it is like yeah i'm gonna kind of be wild but now i'm in front of him and i want to kind of give him my

best self um and then we'll get to those parts where i get to be that like red wine chugging yeah i mean clearly yeah the stuff you're seeing early on, Alea got a little drunk. You're seeing drunk Alea early on where she's like on the table and like. I'm a pilot's wife. She got a little sauced, you know, she maximized that two drink minimum per hour, you know, and she probably only took two red wine glasses and an empty stomach. And she's out there like even Victoria P. What you saw was very polished victoria p yeah i hope that there's another side of victoria p that is a lot like what we saw alea which is the kind of sassy

dark side especially if she got a little drunk a little you know that's yeah that's what it's like to be human yeah and i think especially in this situation where it's like, yeah, of course, I'm of course, I'm going to act a little different in front of the person I'm playing a game for and for the cameras, especially with this whole influencer world where it's like, oh, I want to. Yeah. And again, I the the Leia personality is not my cup. I prefer the Sydney who more regularly can just be herself because she wasn't trained to do that.

I prefer that person. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not going, like that is who Alea is, or quite honestly probably is who Victoria P is. I've seen Hannah turn turn it on i've seen hannah be normal yeah but that's just a pageant world that's literally what they're trained to do their whole life and like mauls will flame you just throughout the entire episode alayas is getting absolutely like character assassinated like editing during that pool

party was so funny like every single girl just be like, I love her, but here's this, this, this, and this. Like every single girl. She can turn it on and off. It's like, but everybody is doing that though. Like as much as you don't want to admit it, like, and I don't't know the situation but i have been in front of cameras a lot and i've been interviewed and stuff and it is like yeah you get like i'm turning it on for this like you you yeah you want to be on as a comedian are you always telling jokes god no i would kill myself right yeah i couldn't handle that uh i do love what said i

mean when sydney i get to that point i do when when sydney lawyered the shit out of a layout when she's like so do you have a job that was so funny i thought that was mean the job part was mean the job that was catty but then she kind of set her up. So she led her down this path. So you would say that you turn it on for people. That was very funny. You would say you're not good at being yourself. I was like, bravo, Sydney. It did feel like kind of like an interrogation in a true crime documentary. Right.

Like, what did you say? Yeah. Like, oh. Oh, it was great. She's getting her to incriminate herself. Yeah. I was very turned on By the brain power You saw it coming

And you just knew that Alea Had no idea it was going on And then you saw the Oh you got me Pretty bitch Touche Why Wait so are we just kind of jumping around?

Yeah. Why did they take a rose away? I mean. Drama. Just for drama. I mean, interestingly, I don't know. No rules. Well, yeah, obviously for TV, but we saw a preview of She Comes Back.

Yeah, so he obviously likes her nonetheless. And isn't that what matters on the show? He's what Peter wants. I mean, like he likes her. He says he likes her. It's pretty early, you know. He can't like her that much because he let her go. I only say that because.

True. You know, there's a difference between liking someone and thinking they're attractive and saying she's in my top four or five. Yeah. Right. And maybe, maybe she was. Yeah. Maybe she was. But I doubt that.

I doubt that she was ever really in Peter's top four. I say that because if she was, I don't know. Like, listen, again, what the producers are good at letting things play out sometimes they can like what happened with Alea is we can all agree was ridiculous it was just one girl not liking another

girl and team Sydney was a larger camp so to speak right and it was just louder and a little bit more smartly executed yeah but the producers let that play out you know yeah which was what they almost normally do yeah but let's say uh let's say sydney didn't like madison you know i don't see definitely i don't see that like being that i don't see that like i I don't see Sidney's hate for Madison

cannibalizing the entire pool party. Yeah. And probably Peter not asking people for their thoughts. No, because if Peter has a real concern about someone, I guess he's going to ask. Yeah. You know, he might,

I'm going to say they might let it play out. They might, producers could say i mean i wouldn't worry about that peter yeah consider the source you know but like if of course if they're not what i'm saying is like my guess is he likes alea yeah he thinks she's cool. Yep. He's willing to get her to know her. Yep. And again, it's so early, so he doesn't really know anyone, but I don't think she was in her like her top.

I think there's like four or five women that Peter's really excited about. And she's like right there. Yeah. She's right below that. Right. And he likes her and all of he's saying is true but like she's she's a she's available as most of the women are to be the sacrificial lamb yeah so if another girl doesn't like you it's like oh well that's enough for me to let's just see how this plays out and again i don't think the

producers created this i don't think they they just let it go they just let it go as opposed to saying like, yeah, I don't know if I would, you know, let's not focus on the Madden syndrome. So you don't think it's parallel to what Hannah and Luke did where she really liked him and that's why she keep letting him come back?

Well, again, what we're kind of debating here is a bunch of nothing, like cattiness of like people not liking each other. And like Luke demonstrated over and over a bunch of nothing like cattiness of like people not liking each other and like luke oh demonstrated over and over yeah yes behavior that was like you couldn't ignore it yes right and every and guys really didn't like him they got to know him and you even saw periods of time throughout the season of the guys being like i wanted to give you a shot, man, but fuck, you suck. Yeah. And I'm like, these girls don't know.

We didn't even know who Aaliyah was. Yeah. All of a sudden, the show, you clearly start something like, oh, I guess we're talking about Aaliyah. Yeah. Right? All episodes. And these women have been around her for three days.

And you're just probably so antsy to do anything where it's like, I gotta focus gotta focus and we have it and sydney what did sydney like point out anything really specific because here's what i love what alayah did she was just like well tell me what i'm doing and it was just like they basically said well you you're a pageant girl you turn it on and off that you know sure and she admits to that but like again that's not that doesn't make you luke p yeah yeah that's very true it is a lot of just kind of like generalized like wait what are we talking about yeah so we don't like her because why yeah she makes her voice higher at some points so kind of what i was saying like like this so early right the producers are just kind of letting things play out but luke p's different because it was just so

because it was like starting to get dangerous kind of with some of the dudes where it's like, he just body slammed that guy. Oh, yeah. And the difference is Luke was Hannah's, I mean, number one for most of the season. Yeah. Where, you know, I think it was just, it was...

And again, you might have saw a very different season had Hannah picked Luke P. You know, it might... Yeah. We may not have been able to see all that. Yes, of course. But who knows? He was so bad that sometimes you're just like, hey, you know, Courtney. You know, Courtney, she was like a,

did you watch the Courtney? She was like the biggest villain of all time. Courtney Robinson. Thank you. What season is that? She won. She won. Ben.

My understanding is like she was just, she was. They had sex in the ocean. It was like the Luke P, right? Where it was just such a, she dominated the season. She was all the other women we're talking about. It's just like, well, this is the story. This is the only story we have to go with. So this is what we're showing.

Yeah. You know. Courtney, I forgot about her. She won? Yeah. Well, I don't remember much about that season. They never got married. How long ago was that? Too long. Like Ben.

You did? Yeah, well, he had a winery. That sounded cool. That's rad. Yeah. Yeah. That's rad. I loved how,

have you heard about the Madison scandal? The real and genuine? No. What? This Madison? Yeah. Oh man, she's in my top four. What's the scandal?

I mean, she had, apparently, the rumor is she has a Finster account, fake Instagram. And she accidentally commented. Yes, I did see that. She commented on.

Madison, you're so real and genuine. Yeah, you're so real and genuine. Oh, that poor girl. It's a, come on. It's okay. How great was it that the only, she only got, you know, the only screen time she got today was Peter saying, Madison's so genuine. And it's like, see Madison, you don, the only screen time she got today was Peter saying, Madison's so genuine.

And it's like, see, Madison, you don't need to let people know. Other people will say it. Peter's got you. Peter's got you. That first date you had was like a huge one. No, he clearly. You're fine. He clearly likes her. Yeah.

And like, that's the thing. Like, this wasn't the episode for Madison. She got the one-on-one. She's getting, you know, she got that magic date. And now it's just like, that was just a beat to remember. Yeah. Peter Super and Madison. Yeah.

Because like, they barely even talk. Hey, she's real and genuine. And it's like, Madison was the one calming force in the episode of Peter having to find, you know, all the drama and and you know deal with all this like madison is his his port in the storm yes yeah and which is like yeah be that be that during this like oh and she will be all she will be all season absolutely yeah she'll she's going far she's going very I mean, it seems like she's the winner. Okay.

Why? I mean, she already met the family, and his mom cries a bunch. I mean, you know, you look back on, like, you know, you watch Ben and Lauren's season. Yeah. Yes. If you look back, it was just like, any time Ben was with Lauren, it was like, okay, this is a little different. Yeah.

Or when I was with Vanessa, it was like, okay, this is a little different. Or when I was with Vanessa, it was like, okay, this is a little different. And so far, Madison, he just like, that's the thing when you are the bachelor, right? It is exhausting. It sucks. You're just like, you're asking these questions to these girls. My guess is Peter doesn't really care

if Alayah's real or not. You know, he's doing his job. Is that true? What do you mean? He doesn't really care? Again, I don't know this to be true. But if let's say Alaya's his sixth favorite. Yeah, he's still

got five. It's about the end of the world. You know what I'm saying? And there was a moment where Peter I don't, Like, and there was a moment where Peter, I don't, Peter, she's just, Alea was just like,

oh, what a day after the, the, after the pillow fight. Yeah. Peter's response was basically like, yeah, that was neat. You know,

like it was this kind of, it just said, you know, he was trying to be nice. It seemed like he was trying to be nice. And then when you see him with Madison, there's this moment of, it looks like Peter is just like, for like the five minutes he's going to get to talk to Madison because it's not

really her time right now. Yeah. He seems to just be like, you know, just, I'm just going to enjoy these few minutes with you. I can be myself. And I'm not going to talk about anything else. I just want to like, I just want to, can I just, can I put my head on your shoulder? Yeah.

And just, you know, and like that clearly, you know, he clearly feels the most comfortable and that can change, right? Like there might be a two or three people he feels that way. Kelly, but like there's clearly that with Madison. Yeah, there absolutely is where it does feel like he's like, I don't want to talk about shit. I don't want to talk about anything. Let's hang out. Yeah. yeah you know this is nuts he's just like he wants to be like these these women

are nuts right like right this is crazy what are we doing here uh what else pillow fight what do we think of the pillow fight are we into the pillow fight i just think it's funny that they're like you know we're harkening back to like youthful childhood i'm like no girl actually does pillow fights like that's definitely like soft core porn territory you know what i mean yeah we're not sitting at sleepovers doing pillow fights and also there were a lot of moments where it was like the pillow had nothing to do with it they were straight up just like wrestling yeah they really shit they really went for it they were going nuts they were definitely it was it was very cat fight ish yeah where it was like we're gonna we're gonna pillow fight a little bit and then and then just like tackle each other right

yeah and they just were just almost at any moment you You really thought a real like claw. I thought Tammy might snap a leg. I was ready for Tammy to just be like, God. Yeah. Yeah. Why did she get disqualified? I don't know. Cause I feel other people were doing just as much as she was in the ring or whatever.

Bad, bad beat for, for, for now. I have a question where champagne and killer and Killer from a pillow wrestling league? Is that a thing? Great question. That should be a thing, right?

You would think it would be, because they have leagues for everything out in LA. Yeah. But I got the impression that was a bit. A bit. Yeah, must have been. Yeah. Although they look tough, man.

They did. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah they would kill you who gets to come up with the dates just someone producers right yeah it's so much planning goes into this yeah you don't just you know like demi didn't come up with it i mean i don't yeah demi didn't hit them up. I want to help my friend Peter. Listen, within the date, they probably asked Demi to show up. They might even have asked Demi some of her opinions about creative.

And like, again, it's, I've said this, it's not, it's staged, not scripted. Yes. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the date's staged. And then, you know, Demi's one-liners and the name. Who knows? That could have been all Demi's idea.

It would be so fun to just come up with dates. I mean, I don't know of a saloon in LA that's outfitted for a pillow fight. Yeah. You know, so clearly that had to be set up. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I just think it would be so fun to just be like, oh, yeah, I just come up with the dates

for the bachelor and bachelor. That's my job. Probably a fun job for them. It's gotta be so fun. Yeah. Have you been on a date since that is at par to bachelor style date? Like as an alumni, like Demi?

No, no, as like you going on a date. Like are we, do you you helicopter rides all the time i'm probably the opposite i'm more boring yeah yeah it's just like i just want to fucking eat some pizza yeah and chill out chill out uh yeah i don't i don't do do you do helicopter rides all the time yeah that's the only date I do. I'll only go out if there's a helicopter. It is. It's really getting me. I'm in the hole, man.

I need help. I gotta get out of this. I gotta get out of this. What else do we need to cover here? Well, can we talk about some of the rumors for the rest of the season? Oh, yes. There's a rumor going around that someone gets pregnant. What?

I'm serious. I mean, I hope that happens. I hope that happens. But that's not the first time there's been that. Is there a specific? Where's this rumor coming from? Let's suss it out here. I don't really even know.

Is this like Life in Style or Star Magazine or something? It's definitely not based on any facts. It's just people thinking based on the videos of the future of the season. Oh, you're basing this off of the trailer? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, then also somebody's an alien. No, I hope somebody gets pregnant.

That'd be great. That would be such good television. It really needs to happen at some point. It has to happen. Yeah. For a big AFR finale. Yeah. Come out like showing already.

Right. Well, the Bachelor has a gap. There's a long enough gap. The Bachelorette, not so much. Of course. Like if the Bachelorette got pregnant by her third choice. Yeah. She'd only be like three months pregnant.

I don't know if she'd be showing. True. But if the Bachelor knocked up one of his girls, she would be like five or six months pregnant by the time they got to AFR. God, that would be good. I hope it happens. Who do we think, okay,

who do we think's gonna get pregnant this season? I don't know. Not Madison, I'm sure. Definitely not Madison. No, I'm saying Victoria P. Possible. I mean, anyone but Madison. Were there any?

Madison's the one who you hear in the trailer about like, he sleeps with someone else. I don't know. It sounds like her voice. Juliet, my friend Juliet, who was a guest last week, kind of played that out. And then I heard it again. And it does sound like Madison. And I think Madison's character is the, you know, God-fearing, you know.

Yeah. I don't know if she's a virgin or not. I mean, that's not a part of her story. But it seems like, you know, she's not here to have sex in windmills. Yeah. Ugh. Madison, come on.

Anyone but Madison. Victoria F. Anyone named Victoria, basically. Oh, yeah. I think it's possible oh man victoria f in the first episode just being like i don't want to be victoria f i just want to be victoria she she i like did she really say that yeah that's i like her and but she's one where i'm like you gotta get of here. This is not a good environment for you.

Why do you say that? I mean, I agree with you. I just, like, that whole fashion show thing of just being like, I want him to see me. And then just being like, okay, like, put on some lingerie and then kiss. Like, it just felt so out of her element for her. I feel like it's only out of her element because she's just so used to being the center of attention with oh okay and because i mean she's a total babe yeah like i just don't buy the i just i'm so uncomfortable okay okay you know but she is surrounded by a

bunch of other beautiful women yes and peter is is, I mean, again, at this point, it doesn't matter if you're Madison or anyone else, like you're not going to get the undivided attention. I don't think she's very used to sharing attention with guys that she's into. I mean, listen, that's kind of everyone who goes to the show. Some people express it more than others.

Because I was for a long, just being like, girl, get out of here. This is not good for you. But I guess i guess yeah i never thought of it like that uh before we get into the victoria f trailer about the the the country singer boyfriend are we covering everything else yeah i think we're i think wait are there any more rumors oh well they show a preview of Victoria. And I actually, I was told by... Oh! I hear it's good. I hear it's good.

I can't wait. Yeah. Victoria F. shows up on a date of which her country singer ex-boyfriend is the obscure country music act. That's good television. That's why we're here. Couldn't she have kept it to herself? I hear it was dumb luck.

Yeah, the news just didn't know. Whoa. When they were casting both, when they were casting both, I hear it was dumb luck, which is brilliant. I mean, that's, and also easy to believe. Yeah, truly. Like if people are living in LA or what, it's easy. Often casting pretty girls from that part of the country.

Yeah. And they're often casting musical artists. And I'm assuming a lot of these up and coming musical country singers are having sex with these cute girls from that part of the country or dating, I mean, not just about sex. So it's not that hard to believe that a pretty girl from Nashville or Tennessee or wherever the hell she's from happens to run into a good looking country singer.

Oh, that's good. Yeah. That is good. Do you like country music? I feel every single person has to like country music who goes on that show. It's not my favorite. Okay. Sorry.

I know. I feel like I might as well say I'm an atheist, which I'm not. But I feel like in this world with my audience, it's sacrilegious. Every band, they're like,

I don't know. Everybody loves it. They're playing to middle America. I don't know. Everybody loves it. Everybody. They're playing to the... Middle America. Yeah. But Peter's a line dancer apparently. Apparently he and his friends go line dancing.

I know. I was going to be like, I'm going to Google that place. When we have Peter on, I want to ask him more questions about where in fact are you line dancing. Oh, we got to do a line dancing game with him. Oh, yeah. That'd him oh yeah he was good

peter's got he's got swag he's got some swag he's got just enough swag who uh who would get your rose for the episode wait you're handing out roses i'm handing out roses not peter um um Moses, not Peter. Victoria P. Yep, that's it. Yep. You fell in love. Madison. Madison gets it? She didn't do anything.

But, oh, I guess I'm looking at that. Oh, for the whole episode. Just the episode. Victoria P., dude. She's winning it now. Show's over. With that date, he was just like, yeah, this is it. This is the one.

This is it. And then, all right, if she wins, she can't be the Bachelorette. Give me your three front runners for next Bachelorette. For Bachelorette. It's early. This is tough because it can go kind of any way. I could see, what's her name? Oh God, this is gonna be tough.

What's her, oh, Hannah Ann. I could see. I heard that. I think that would be awesome. Right now, I don't think so much. Okay. But Hannah B didn't get a good edit in the first half of her season.

Hannah B had a story, though. And the story was she was never the winner. You know, it was always Kaylin. Okay. And Hannah Ann just looks like all she's ever done was win. I did think maybe Kaylin would become the bachelorette. Right. Off of that.

And then it was Hannah. Okay. So Hannah had a little, Hannah B had a little bit more, she had a story. It wasn't like played up like a Victoria P story where it's so obvious and this traumatic event. But I think that would be great.

I think you'd have a bunch of guys just losing their shit over Hannah Ann and she certainly can carry a room. I also loved it before we go yeah you notice how Hannah Ann after her obviously her her her crying it was like a crying face off with her and Kelsey yeah like when they realized they weren't gonna ever understand each other they just decided just both cry over each other like let's just cry kind of like apart but also close enough so we can hear each other crying yeah and then we'll be done with this but i just want everyone else to know that i feel victimized by you yes yeah and i feel man everybody in that house just being like yeah okay yep oh, yep. We got it. Yeah, I believe you that you're not stealing that champagne.

Like, just for like three days worth of just like, yeah, yep, she's reacting pretty big. Oh, yeah, that's a bummer that your champagne was popped. But for the rest of the episode, when the other drama was going on, they would show Hannah being right in it and just being like, not saying a thing. And you could tell, you could see the wheels

turning. Smart. Hannah Anna had a lot to say, but she's like, I'm just keeping my mouth shut. This is not about me. I'm just gonna, you know what? I'm gonna take a break. I've been, I'm getting some neg press. And now I'm, she knows. I'm gonna let the,

take the bullet here. it was i'll tell you what hannah and she knows she's uh she's done her she's played the game she's playing the game yes yeah beautifully she's nailing it yeah yeah i was afraid hannah annum would burn out after last week oh yeah i was kind of worried too of like just like too much gonna send kind of both of them on where she's part of too much drama it's just like you know again kind of like a layout it's like i like you but i don't like you enough but see i think he's into her maybe that's just because i'm like she's i think he's very fit like all we've seen is a very strong physical attraction we i we haven't really seen a an actual connection between him and Anna Ann.

Okay. Am I missing? Do I? Do you think there's much there for him to get to know? Not in a mean way. Just like, I don't know if she's had that.

Wow. I don't know. Fell in some passive aggressive dick. I mean, like she hasn't had much. It doesn't seem like obstacles to overcome in her life. You know what I mean?

Very true. That doesn't mean you can't have a connection with someone who hasn't had obstacles yeah you disagree okay no i just mean like you're just young and new to life kind of i mean she worked a lot other than a victoria p who clearly has a sad story and i'm sure there's other sad stories we'll get to hear. Most of these are like all charmed women who grew up, you know, probably getting a lot of attention in terms of attractiveness. So like your argument is a little flat in terms of like, you have to be relatable to fall in love.

I mean, they're all pretty girls who've been, Madison's won nothing but state championships in basketball and like you know like she's clearly like the it girl from her they're also like so young all of them are so young where it is like oh yeah man you don't have to have like i don't yeah it's hard to have a big life story when you're 23. That's a good point. Man, when I got my driver's license a few years ago. I didn't pass the first time. I couldn't believe it. It was like the worst week of my life. Yeah, so then I had to wait a week and then I passed.

Wow, that's an incredible story. Thank you for sharing. Oh, wow, cool. Yeah, yeah. So like, God, us driving in the car today reminded me of that and it really messed me up no i mean yeah they're also yeah we're gonna hear more stories and i can't wait but yeah i mean i get what you're saying we haven't we haven't seen any actual connection between hannah and and pete like there hasn't been this moment yeah maybe it's

just me being like yeah but she hasn't had her one-on-one yet. Yeah. Right? It's so. Have we only had two one-on-ones? I guess it is so early. So early. Yeah.

He clearly likes Kelly. But also he just feels comfortable around Kelly. Yeah. Like, and Kelly's so normal. Yeah, she seems rad. She feels so out of place in such a great way. I love her just being like, wow. I don't want people seeing me.

I will say, even as a viewer it's like a breath of fresh air yeah it's just like oh you know what i need a little bit of normalness and like even when there was a moment in like the first episode where somebody was like calling her out oh for like cheating in that tricycle race or whatever like um getting called out and she was just like okay i don't know what you want me to say and then everybody was kind of like great moving on like rather than right like um well i was just like yeah she handled she didn't start crying and like yeah she was just kind of like what guys come on we were riding a tricycle with wings on it who cares we were riding a tricycle with wings and on that

and uh betsy tell us tell people where they can find you and you are you just finished filming a movie just finished filming a movie called golden arm and it's premiering at south by southwest so gonna go party in Austin. Yeah! What's it about? It's a buddy comedy that takes place in the world of women's arm wrestling. Yeah, so it's kind of like a road trip movie. Is this a real community?

Yeah, there is a real arm wrestling community all over here in LA. To women. Yeah, where people have characters. It's really cool. I'm assuming in preparation for this movie, you've met a few of these people i've met a few watched a lot of videos uh uh dot marie jones is in it she's like from glee and everything and she is like an arm wrestling champion she's so rad and she was like teaching us all this stuff.

And yeah, she like started doing it like arm wrestling sailors for money. Like something like that. She's rad. How good are you at arm wrestling? I'm all right. I'm okay. I'm okay.

I'm all right. I'm all right. If you are in LA, make sure to check out Betsy at- Yeah, come to Bangarang. Yeah, on Friday nights. Friday nights at eight or ASCAT. Fridays and Saturday,

or I mean Saturdays and Sundays. Oh, and also I'm gonna be, I'm in a new Fox animated show called Duncanville coming out February 16th after The Simpsons. Oh my God. Isn't that wild?

Starring Amy Poehler. It's going to be really fun. What kind of character do you play? I play one of, it's about a teen named Duncan and I play one of his best friends named Bex. Oh, cool.

And you'll immediately be able to tell which character i am because it looks exactly like oh they drew it they drew it like exactly i'll show you afterwards they drew it exactly like me i'm like cool man i mean you have a very distinctive distinctive voice but when you do um animation or does voice work, do you ever change your voice? Or is it because you have such a distinct voice already, that's what they're buying? Yeah, it's usually like, just do you. I'm like, oh, great, okay.

Once in a while they'll be like, can you go higher? I'm like, oh, not really. I'll try. I'll blow out my vocal cords. Well, Betsy. Thank you so much for having me. This is always a ton of fun. This is a blast. I really enjoy your perspective on uh on the bachelor i can talk about all day i love this show

uh check us out tomorrow for women on top yeah fun we uh we i learned a lot about uh having sex and babies while married. Oh, something great. I've, I guess I should know. Yeah. Good. But, uh,

they were very funny and very open and very honest. And, it was a delightful conversation. So make sure to check that out tomorrow. And then we'll see you, uh, next Monday after that. Yeah.

Yeah. Thanks for listening guys. See you tomorrow.