The Viall Files - E83 Don’t Waste Your Pain with Tammin Sursok and Roxy Manning

Episode Date: January 22, 2020

Celebrity actress Tammin Sursok and entertainment host Roxy Manning of the Women on Top podcast join Nick in the studio to talk about love and romance while being a working mom. They talk about the spontaneous ways they have sex with their husbands, Tammin opens up about her eating disorder, and they joke about how to navigate having more kids. Leave a review for your chance to win free merch! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: RITUAL: https://ritual.com/viall MANSCAPED: https://www.manscaped.com CODE: VIALL NOOM: https://www.noom.com/viall SKREWBALL WHISKEY: https://www.skrewballwhiskey.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What is up everybody happy Wednesday if you are in fact tuning in Wednesday should we should I say happy Wednesday I don't know people might come back and listen I don't I think it's nice I feel like like I'm applying some little peer pressure. To listen right on the day. On the day. Even though it might be Thursday. Yeah. It might be Friday.

Maybe you have nothing to do on a Saturday night. In which case, thanks for hanging out with us. Chances are, I'm just like watching a movie. Me too. Not really doing anything. Yep. You know? Yeah. Although tonight we're

going to the iHeart Podcast Awards. We are. Yeah. That'll be fun. We're not nominated for anything. Darn it. Which I think is a lot of crap. Me too. Rigged. Rigged awards. There's no way we weren't nominated. We're real sore losers.

We're like the best show ever. Yeah. So, what else? What's going on, Rochelle? You dating these days? No, I'm not, okay? I'm not. Okay. I'm not really either. I don't think.

What does that mean? You are, aren't you? No. Why do you say it? Not sure. I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud. No, no.

You know, I have friends. I have friends. What? Do you have friends? No, I don't. Not the same ones you're talking about. You're not? No. No sexual activity?

No. Sorry, Mom. Dormant. That's, no. No sexual activity? No. Sorry mom. Dormant. That's fine. Is it? Do you have any big goals or upcoming events that you have coming up other than, you know, we're gonna hopefully do like a live show

sometime this year. Yeah. Rochelle's working on a musical. That's great. I think it's awesome. You do? Spend a lot of time doing musical things. Yeah,

I'm working on a musical so my focus is there and I'm like, you know, someone's gonna see me up on that stage. They're gonna think, wow,

she's special and then boom, it happens. Do you wanna be more of a Broadway performer or a stand-up comedian or an actor? If you had your

dream great. You know what my dream is? You know these people who have careers and then they let them do Broadway because people already kind of know them? Sure. That's what I'm hoping. Backdoor to Broadway.

So your passion's Broadway, but it doesn't pay. Broadway pays. Oh, it does? Yeah. Well? I mean, decently. Why do you want Broadway to be the backdoor? Because I don't think I can get in the front door. You know what I mean decently why do you want they're not on the street why do you want Broadway to be the back door because I don't think

I can get in the front door you know what I mean why knock knock knock on the back I don't I don't know much about Broadway

why don't you think you just have to be like the best of the best of the best to get on Broadway like singing why yeah I think you're

a pretty good singer I don't know anything about music well I wish you luck that if if you make it if you make it bigger you just are you gonna I think you're a pretty good singer. I don't know anything about music. Well, I wish you luck. That if you make it bigger, are you gonna not be my producer? Probably not.

That makes sense. I don't pay her that much. Find some other schmuck. Well, I wish you all the luck. Like in a year. A year. A year? I don't want you to make it quite yet. Anyways, great episode for you guys.

We have Tamin... Sursak. Sir? Sursak. That's how she instructed us how to say her name. From Pretty Little Liars. Formerly of Pretty Little Liars. Has a lot of great things coming up

and a part of the hit podcast Women on Top and her co-host Roxy Manning yeah they just had Molly Sims on their podcast

they did Roxy Roxy Manning Roxy Red Carpet Roxy I didn't ask is that you think Roxy's her given

maiden name or not maiden name yeah like her given birth name I think so I said I loved her name and i said i wish thanks yeah so i feel like she would have said do you think so yeah i don't know she seems like i wish i would have asked i wish i would have asked how she ended up interviewing people on the red carpet that seems like the funnest job ever she's going to the oscars i'm like how do you end up doing that? I mean, I don't know. You can kind of go out there.

You put yourself in that. I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's, yeah. You can figure out how you end up doing that. You know, it's a career path.

It's a cool job. It's a cool job. Working the red carpet at the Oscars. Yeah. Anyways, it's a great episode. A couple of working moms, married moms,

who have been married for a long time and are very open about marriage and kids and sex and marriage. And I know I learned a lot. They, we get into it. Nick and I were just like, whoa. Wow, okay. It's very interesting.

So I hope you guys enjoy it. You know, we try to mix it up here. You know, single people, married whoa. Wow. Okay. It's very interesting. So I hope you guys enjoy it. You know, we try to mix it up here. You know, single people, married people. Yeah. All sorts of people. Yeah. So you will love it. Thanks for listening, guys.

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Thanks for having us, Meg. Ladies from Women on Top. Or the bottom of the side. Whatever we feel like that day. i heard the title of your podcast is like i have to have these women on um we have a lot of of people on the show who are in various uh aspects of their life and dating situations you are both married and you're both mothers. Yes. We checked. Bowls and chains. And it seems to have a big part of your lives.

And I think recently we had my good friend Tanya and we talked a lot about being single. Yeah. A lot of opinions on being single and dating. And here we are. Yeah, we get a lot of people writing in saying, you need a married woman's perspective more. So here we are.

I don't even know what it's like to be single. It's been 13 years. It's been over a decade. I don't even know what it's like to. I think I'd be a terrible dater now because there's so many different ways to date, especially on apps, that I'd probably be on those weird apps

like the farm farm boy. You know, just like weird. Yeah, just weird things. Because like, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I want to do the like match.com. Did you know that when I started dating my husband, there was no texting? Texting wasn't even like around yet.

Yeah, I have a big BlackBerry. Right? Is there even BlackBerry? You can actually call on the phone there are people who break up with people because they're bad texters no i text too much in our relationship my husband says that we cannot have our entire relationship on text and i'm like but i don't want to talk to you because i've just seen you he wants to talk he's 12 years older than me and he definitely wants more of that interface and for me it's just like i don't need to talk to you about the the this the poo in the diaper like i

don't need to talk about it let's just text about it we don't have to have a conversation have you ever text your husband while in the same house many times he sleeps downstairs because he i know he sleeps downstairs because we have two children one of the children my oldest one is in the bed with me and then the youngest one is next to my husband's room and he does the nights right now so because i've been working so much so he gets up with the baby which is great for a marriage so if we have to find sexy time we have to do it like in the garage or something i was just gonna say like for sexy time because sometimes you have to take that moment and go with it because, you know, like our daughter will be playing like in the,

in the living room or whatever, like safely away. Yeah. And he's like, are you ready? I'm like, yeah, I'm in the bedroom.

Come meet me. And it's like, yeah, you have to like do it and like get it done. It's that spun. It's so hot. It's so hot. And it's normally two.

No, let's be one and a half minutes. Yeah. It's normally like one to like one and a half minutes. What? Yeah. It's normally like one to like one and a half to two minutes. Because he finishes in a minute and a half?

No, you both do. It's just like, you just get it over with. Not over with, it's lovely. It's about two minutes, right? Yeah, it's about two minutes. Maybe four.

Right, because inevitably you sometimes hear like the pitter patter of the little feet like coming down the hallway and you're like, oh God. Same with you.

Yes. You're finding that when you have sex with your husband, less than two minutes. minutes i mean i could probably do one but i want to give him what he needs you know um but yeah it's just you have to just you have stuff to do i have things to do yeah i mean i get it does your husband not masturbate when he's like traveling so the only time he's climaxing is when you're having sex well i'm the problem i only ask is can we get a lot of callers who like call in my husband's

jerking off watching porn no this is the difference i wish he would roxy and i are available so like they don't have to watch porn and masturbate because he knows that he could be with me i mean he could be with a woman you know what i mean so like that to him is more fun so he doesn't i mean sometimes i'm like let's have sex he's like again so i mean i think he's just tired which if you found out your husband was uh masturbating in the shower would you be offended you know what i think my husband does masturbate in the shower i think so i so yeah i don't know your husband never met him i barely knew you were married i am certain they masturbate more than you think i yeah i promise you but maybe not because this whole minute and a half

thing is blowing my mind i promise you that because i would say like have you and he says not like he's not a liar. So he would just tell me. You know what I mean? The minute and a half thing blows my mind. Because his age, I don't know how old he is, but he said he's 12 years older. So he's not 20. No.

Right? But I don't. You know what? That's an incredible. Unless you're young. I think it's just because you know what you like you're you're turned on and you don't have much time you gotta just you gotta get your mind in the game you know what i mean like you can't be farting around here like you got nothing you should ever bring farting and talking

about this in the same conversation but you don't have a lot of like you don't have a lot of time that's it and we also have things to do like Like as moms, like we're working moms. We want to work. We want to, you know, make our own money. We want to be with our husbands. We want to like be there for our kids. We want to create. We don't have that much time for like a 30, 30 minute session. Can I ask why you sleep with your daughter in, in your bed? I don't really have to, but I just, it's, I wrote this post on my Instagram about how time moves so fast and how as moms, we always feel like we're rushing, you know, like rushing to like have a moment to ourselves. And, and then all of a sudden you look back and you're like, wow, they've grown into people and I missed it. So like, for me, she loves to sleep in the bed and I have a great

sexual relationship with my husband. So I'm not missing other than he's snoring. Like it was nothing really that I'm missing. And to like watch them sleep is like nothing. I mean, mom's out there, know how this feels. It's like nothing you've ever experienced before. It's like pure, it's complete purity, you know? And I just, I love it. And I love the connection that we have. And, and at some point it's going to be over she's not going to need me and it goes so fast i can imagine all the women listening you're just husbands getting the boot tonight for one and a half minutes it's not your choice sometimes because sometimes they come in the bed with you and like for us i know we wake up some mornings and there she is like in the bed i'm like how did that happen you know you i you asked

me when i was on your podcast uh if i think uh more women want to have sex more than than men now as you guys have been married for a while now has that changed for you guys do you feel like you're wanting it more than your husband always wanted it more always so it's not like a necessarily an age or time thing i think there's a misconception that men are like Randy. Because I once read the statistic that men want sex every three minutes. They think about it every three minutes. Yeah, there's a difference. I don't believe that.

I think that men are way more complex than women give them credit for. And they have a lot more going on than we think. And I don't think it's just like food kill sex masturbate like i don't think it's that i think they're much more complex and women are a lot have a lot more of a desire to have sexual activity than we talk about and that's why our podcast women on top is great i think it's because we get women and we talk about what women actually think but no one's really talking about and i think women have a higher sexual drive than men think right especially as a mom like you're really not supposed to talk about sex when you become a mom because you're supposed to be this pure right you're supposed to be this like pure figure that like

doesn't talk about sex and you know but the reality is we'd want it and we do talk about it and that's why you know and why is it so dirty like it's funny because in america especially i'm from australia um you know you see like someone being blown up on your tv screen or like they'll say like sensitive content and you'll see like dead bodies literally like sloan over like all over the floor but yet you like can't show a nipple which is like what is a nipple for it's to actually feed your children like nudity in the states is so taboo but yet in so many other places and parts of the world it's beautiful and it's like vulnerability and it's connection and it's it's it's stunning but we don't consider it like that in the United States.

You know, back to your question, though, about- I know we should change this. Why? Well, there's more boobs all over. It's more that, you know, America was founded on a Puritan culture, and it's just a little different, I guess. It's weird, that mentality, I feel, though. Like, why is it dirty to have connection?

Like, it's not dirty. And my husband would always say, like, oh, I'm so worried about when my girls grow up and have sex. But you got to have a reasonable, responsible conversation around sex that it's okay to enjoy it. And it's okay to talk about it. But just know your limits and know what you're being forced into

and be safe and be careful. And without those types of conversations, women get into these situations that aren't good. Such as? Getting pregnant young, getting STDs, being forced into sex, rape. There's so many things when you don't know your boundaries that is why so much of this has happened. And you have two daughters. a daughter you have no no sons yeah no sons all girls i do want a son though but i don't know if that'll happen and do you as you know as you kind of alluded to do you you think about you know your daughters you're they're both all

everyone's really young but are you already started kind of thinking about how you're going to talk about uh sex and relationships with your daughter specifically i think it it depends on the stages, too, that they're at. Like right now, we have kids who are in kindergarten. So for us, she has sort of asked, where did I come from? Where does a baby come from? And the way we sort of explain it is very different than I think when she asks us in a few years, even like third and fourth grade. We just say, I think we said something like you

know you were this kind of beautiful seed that was growing in mommy's tummy and and you came out and you know very very basic you know you're like you're vague kind of like yeah very bad i just don't want to lie to her i mean obviously i don't want to ruin that you know santa claus isn't real but um you know when you say like a stalk comes in it's like that starts to confuse them when they start to get older so it's kind of a version of the truth that then becomes the truth that doesn't scare them in the future, which is kind of like,

hey, you know, mommies and daddies get together and we have babies. The problem is now she's got two friends and she's like, I'm having babies with Falcon. I'm having babies. I'm like,

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What are some of the craziest things you've heard some of your friends? The stork. The stalk, stork, stork, whatever. The bird. Stork, stork. The bird. Stork story. Stork, stork, stork.

What are some of the craziest things your other women friends have said to their kids? Like, you're like, what are you saying? Or like the one where like the baby gets dropped off. And I'm like, no, that's abuse. Like, what? Like, yeah, babies get dropped to your doorstep. the one where like the baby gets dropped off and i'm like no that that's abuse like what like babies get dropped to your doorstep and it's funny because well this is a sensitive conversation but we lost a baby really quite far in and my daughter was in the actual appointment when we lost her and so yeah like we i learned about the miscarriage of the baby's heart and stopped

while while i was with my daughter because we're so far in that we didn't even think that it was a possibility. I was hysterical. I like dropped to the floor like I didn't even notice that she was I didn't even notice that she was in the room. She doesn't really understand it. So at some point we have to have those conversations as she gets older. And then she's been through a pregnancy. She's been through me growing, having a baby, birthing a baby. Now it's her sister. So it's sensitive. Do you remember your parents explaining it to you?

Because I don't. Mine didn't. Mine never did. I remember sex ed. I learned about it from- You learned in sex ed? Sex. That's like 12 years old? Yeah, 12 probably i learned

from a friend's older brother when i was like well my parents tell me that my my my my my neighbor friend his name was brian told me but my parents were like all pissed and devastated but i don't like the point is i don't remember any of this you know what i'm saying yeah yeah i don't really don't remember when did you first have sex? 17. You're relatively for, yeah. 17. Average. I wasn't like a late bloomer, but I certainly wasn't older.

First in line, yeah. It probably would have been earlier if it weren't for the Catholic guilt that I was living with. Oh, well, you should tell them your theory. No, I think I'm good. Tell them your theory, Kermit. I just had sex different ways. Oh, you have a theory about Catholic guilt? No, no, no. I just had sex different ways. you have a theory about Catholic guilt? No, I just had sex different ways. Holding on to your virginity.

Holding on to my virginity. Oh, I believe you mentioned this to me off the old other hole. No, let's not. Let's not. But I was a virgin for a long time, okay, mom? Years, years. Years. But that's what they do.

Nope, that you weren't. Didn't get pregnant. Didn't get pregnant. Pregnant at the back door no why are we talking about this was that a really good thing I just didn't want to lose my virginity

I was like holding on to it for what I have no idea and I lost it on the stairs of my parents house the stairs I don't know why the stairs it just felt like sexy front porch

or like no just the stairs up to the bedroom and now every time I because we're still in the same house my parents are still in the same house every time I walk past those stairs were they home there's still that a little bit of a stain just kidding i haven't changed the carpets i'm like uh that's kind of gross mom i

think it's time to change the carpets because i never really told her but i just always remember those stairs and it was not the best experience it was never it's not supposed to well i mean other i mean i hope it was but like in general your first time you're losing, it's not a magical moment. Yeah, and kind of for women, it takes like a lot of times to actually be having sex. You know what I mean? Like you do it once, you do it twice, you do it three times. It's always awkward. Like the fifth time, you're like, okay, now we're actually having sex.

It's awkward usually. usually unless i mean unless your first time having sex with someone who's you know if you let's say like you if you're a woman you've waited you know uh and you and you you're 26 27 generally you might have sex with someone who's had a decent amount of sex and so that's a whole different type of awkwardness potentially but hopefully he's making you feel more comfortable but usually like a you know 17 18 19, everyone's kind of new at all this. So no one's really good and it's often awkward. Yeah. And I don't know if I waited.

I just don't think anyone wanted to have sex with me. No. Oh yeah. I had braces, fuzzy hair. I was about 210 pounds. And I just never, the first guy who I thought was interested in me was 14 and he threw a rock at me and I was like,

that means he likes me. Isn't it funny what we tell our children? And then he said, you need to go to Jenny Craig. I remember. He said that? He said, you need to go to Jenny Craig. And actually his comments changed my life because I started exercising, eating well, healthily. And I lost 100 pounds.

Almost. Like you appreciate his comment? Well, now I do. But it was so mortifying that I was like, I don't want to live like this anymore. People say like, how were you overweight? And it was just we'd immigrated from South Africa and we just didn't feel like we were really settling. So when you feel unsettled, you turn to something. And for me, it was food.

So I turned to food and I was just overeating because I didn't feel settled or safe or whatever. My parents were amazing, but we just kept moving around. And so I just gained weight. How old were you when you like. Lost the weight? Yeah, it had this transformation. So I lost the weight at 15

and then I got a job on a TV show, which was the biggest TV show in Australia and like around Europe called Home and Away. And I got the job when I was 15 and a half. So it was like a mind fuck. So you went from like feeling like I'm an overweight teenager. To like the ingenue.

Yeah, on the cover of the magazine. And you always think that you're that girl. Like it never goes away. Does it still bother you to this day in terms of do you have body image? So I had an eating disorder for about four. No, from about eating disorder for about 10 years. Like a bad one. How old when it started?

From four, from five, well, from like 17 to about 25. from about eating sort of about 10 years like a bad one how old when it's from four from fifth well from like 17 to about 25 um bad eating disorder and then i met my husband at 24 20 well no 23 i can't remember early 20s and it was still going on a little bit and then i just stopped because i realized it's funny when you just your brain it's like when people talk about drugs because I've never taken drugs. They say when you're just done, you're done. And I was done with feeling like crap. I was done with feeling sick. I was done with making it control my entire life that I just woke up one day and I said to my husband.

It wasn't my husband at the time we were dating. I was like, I'm done. Like, I'm done. Did he suspect that you had an issue before you acknowledged it? Oh yeah. So I had bulimia for a good 10, well, good five years. So it was like, I stopped eating and then weird eating stuff and then like bulimia for a good four or five years. And then it was very rare with him though. It wasn't like a day to day thing when I met him, like it was kind of on the outs. And then I just- And did you just went cold turkey or did you have to like get help?

Or I mean, for the people who are listening, who might be struggling, like in terms of like advice you might offer to them. For me, living was better than dying. Something just happened. I woke up and I was really sick. And I was just like, I chose life. And I go to therapy for other reasons

that are not eating related, just about feeling good enough or whatever. But the eating stuff completely stopped one day. And my husband said to me, because it's been almost nine years or something, and he said to me, he was like, I'm so proud that you just stopped. And I did. Like, I don't think about it. Yes, we all think like, oh, I wish I didn't have excess skin or I wish my boobs were higher being moms or I wish I didn't have like a turkey neck or whatever you think. But that part of my life was over. And I didn't want to talk about it. I felt so ashamed of it for so long because I was like, what are the headlines going to be like,

you know, famine, blah, blah, blah. You know how they like misconstrue everything. And I was like, you know why I have to talk about it is because if I can save someone's life and if I can help someone right now and every time I talk about it then my job is done do you I mean you've shown me the picture when you were a child is that on your social yeah okay well no not the bikini one it's not on my social I don't know where that's from but that other ones are yeah yeah no I mean it's it's it's a lot of people would be surprised to see these photos and in some ways it must be inspirational for someone who's... Yeah.

I mean, it was the best thing that ever happened to me because it gave me empathy and it gave me understanding of other people. And I've never thought of myself in a realm of like, oh, you're better because you got on a TV show when you were young. I've always cared about other people. And I'm not saying that you can't if you're not overweight. But I think it just gave me a different empathy that I didn't know that I would have had. How come? I was just gonna say so you wouldn't have traded it like you wouldn't have traded like being like thin, no, your whole life for what

you've already gone. My best quote is don't waste your pain. And because of that pain, I think it's transformed me into the person that I want to become and are becoming because I've been through so much. And at the time you hate it because you're like, why is this happening to me? And it wasn't meant to happen a different way. Like it was meant, this was meant to happen. I was meant to be bullied. I was meant to have miscarriages. I was meant to, to suffer so that in some way it could help like i think it's don't waste your pain like the best the best art is through pain yeah it's true you know are you conscious about your diet now yes and no just like give a general healthy

lifestyle to be healthy i love green juices and stir fries i don don't eat meat. That's just because I don't, I think right now where we are with our environment, that's more about the environment in a way and my children's like future. So I don't eat meat, but I try to just eat really well. I like to feel good. It makes me feel sexy.

It makes me like feel not like outwardly sexy, internally sexy, if that makes sense. I like to just sleep well i like to not be a bitch but it's like wait meat meat makes you yeah meat makes me bitchy but not sean's meat so you you've been married how long oh god we've been together 13 we're married nine and roxy you've been married how long? Oh, God. I like this question. I'm trying to calculate.

Hold on. We met in 2003. We got married in 2005. So we're going on 15 years. That's 15 years ago. That's so sad. No. What does your husband do, Roxy?

So he works also in entertainment. He's an events producer and does entertainment marketing. His company is called A-List Communications. Name David. This one goes out and she's like, when she walks in a room, she sparkles so much.

She has like no social anxiety. She walks in and she loves it. Like for me, I'm at the back of the room, like hiding, like don't talk to me, don't talk to me, don't talk to me.

I'm like, we're so opposite in so many ways and yet we love each other so much. So much. So much. So much. It's a track. So what's, what do you, I mean,

you know, obviously we get a lot of people who are married and a lot, lots of times it's, you know, four or five years go by seven, you know, a lot of people, the itch comes in,

people are getting divorced, get bored, complacent, sex lives go down, uh, et cetera, et cetera. I mean,

you guys seem happily married. Uh, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, you guys seem happily married. Do you, A, find that your relationships are non-traditional? And if either way, what are some reasons why you are in the position you are still thriving in these marriages? I mean, I think for me, we have a very

non-traditional marriage because we're both, we both work. He has six wives. Yeah, explain. And he's married to me as well. What do you mean by non-traditional marriage because we're both we both work wives yeah yeah explain seventh one what do you mean by non-traditional married to tammy yeah um i've seen my boobs though yeah but i think all girls do that yeah yeah i mean why not why not check them out yeah um we're non-traditional in the sense that we both work we're both entrepreneurs we both take care of our daughter i mean it does fall more upon me i think at times it just it just does parenting parenting yeah parenting taking care of the you know the little one and stuff like that but i think we try to have a balance about it it doesn't

always work it doesn't always work but it was interesting your question before about the sex not to go back to sex like i always do not. Not to go back to sex, but please, let's do it. But please. You were asking about do women want to have more sex than men. And I think in our marriage, it was interesting because he wanted to have sex at the beginning more when we first got married. But now it's changed because he's gotten older. I've gotten older. I'm hornier, I I think now than he is you know and it's like

and I think it's like that because he my husband too is older you know almost a decade older than me so um I think in that sense we're not matching up a little bit you know it's like we were sort of two ships you have to work on it you really have to make time for it um so yeah that's kind of like where we're at in our marriage you know know? It's funny because I once heard that this quote, not a quote, sorry, I was in therapy. I think therapy is great for individuals. I don't, we don't go to marriage therapy, but I said to my, my therapist, like a couple of years ago, it's like, how do people, why do people break up and why do people stay together? And she said that when you first meet, there's like a three to four year period where you're just obsessed with each other. And then after about four years, it's about money and kids and jobs and sexual

differences. And so you split apart. And then to reconnect, which is why some marriages work and some marriages don't, is you have to keep falling in love. And if you don't keep falling in love, then all of a sudden that separation just gets larger and larger and larger. And that's why people divorce. You have to find out and figure out what made you fall in love in the first place and keep connecting. That's why for me, my husband and I once a month go away to Santa Barbara. for a day and a half, we have sex, we laugh, and we keep reconnecting and we keep falling in love. And that's the only way that marriages last because you do, you find there's like a huge distance and then you can't seem to come back together. Well, you have to keep dating each other.

That's the thing. You can't get lazy about it, right? So you have to like dress up a little bit and you have to like go on those date nights and make an effort and like show your affection, you know, right? Have you ever had moments where you had to like you know either metaphorically or physically like kick your husband in the ass because you felt

like he was kind of being lazy or vice versa he's a very he's very attentive but what happened which i wasn't ready for is that by having children because he's so attentive he's so attentive on the children so now i'm like well where do i fit in you know because all of a sudden he's so attentive, he's so attentive on the children. So now I'm like, well, where do I fit in? You know, because all of a sudden he's so like helpful with the children. So I just have to remind him like, hey, I'm here too, which he is aware of, but like he has a full-time job

and he's got the kids and he's trying to help me out. So it's just like, you don't have that much energy and time within the day to like, also like be fawning over your wife, but you kind of have to because women still want that they still want attention and that's what a lot of it is women just want to feel loved in some way and desired to you know does that happen a lot with when with married couples having kids and they almost get jealous of the attention from

their kids yeah you're not jealous of your kid but you're jealous of the attention i think so i mean i've heard a lot of men feel that with the women that we just need here yeah yeah i mean it must be both ways yeah because uh mike just has a touring show that's just about that right yeah yeah it's so good it's so good but it's basically about his wife becoming obsessed with the baby and he's like what about me yeah yeah well especially in those first couple years when you have a baby you have you mean you don't really have a choice right it's like yeah they need you so much they depend on you you're feeding them you know a lot of the time it's like you have to be on that it's like they're my boobs yeah exactly but my husband do 50 we do 50 50 of the work like we 50 50 work 50 50 do the kids 50 50 i mean he changes just as much diapers

if not more than i do um he takes the kids to school. I pick them up. I'm all day working, doing my job. Tomorrow he's doing his. We just try to balance it. I'll shoot a movie. He won't take a movie. Then he'll shoot a movie. I won't take a movie. We just try to do it literally down the middle. Is that to come naturally for you guys or that's something you're making a conscious effort to do or both? I think it comes naturally because we both met when we're we both met in this business and in this business you have to figure out your schedules and try to make it work and sometimes i do have a movie that i'm doing and he has a movie that he's doing so you just have to discuss it and be open to having that type of communication i think too like, like with my husband, like he sort of

knew what he was getting into when he married me because he knows the person that I am, you know, that I am. No, I mean, but everyone can say that, right? Like everyone has a certain personality. Like if you're, you know, for me, I think like if you're like, I'm a very opinionated person. No, I know. It's weird. It's weird. I don't come from a traditional, you know, sort of background. You know, I come from like a multicultural background. You know, I went to a very like, college preparatory school, we were, you know, taught to like, always want for your own, you don't, you know, rely on men, that kind of a thing. So I think like all those things that I expressed to him, like at the beginning,

he knew what he was getting into. Like if we ever had kids down the road, which we did, you know, like he knew that's the thing. How long did you guys wait till you had kids? So we, we were almost 10 years married when we had the child,

because here's the thing. I didn't want kids. You didn't want kids? No. Did he want children? He did. Okay. He did very badly.

He's one of six kids, also Catholic. Why doesn't he want the second child? No, it's so's so weird wait now you want a second kid and he doesn't now i want the second kid and he doesn't and he's one of six kids he's like the baby boy of like six kids and it's that's what i'm trying to do and you're are you actually trying to think of ways to impregnate yourself trying to steal his sperm i have um I just say get a turkey baster. Yeah. Just like use a condom

and then just run for the hills. Is that something couples are constantly discussing about like having kids, not having kids? How many should we have? Yes, because in also different stages of your marriage,

you might have a different answer, right? Like maybe you wanted more at the beginning. So that's like what's happened to us. I think I want one more too. Yeah. My husband does not. Seriously,'s like what's happened to us. I think I want one more too. Yeah. My husband does not. Seriously,

you're trying to actively get pregnant. I have been known to do so. I've been known to try to steal a sperm. Can I? I mean, come on, you tell us.

But why do you have to steal sperm if you're having sex? Because he pulls out. Because he tries to pull out. Oh, he pulls out. Yeah. Oh, I missed that. So what she does

is like she like folds on top of him like right at the end and she just like gets him like really close and then just he's like, I'm sorry. And then just literally So what she does is she folds on top of him right at the end. And she just gets him really close. And then just, he's like, I'm sorry. And then just literally puts him on. Do you just bear hug him? Yeah.

I just bear. She just falls on top of him and just like, see what happens. You're not going anywhere. But he seems to be able to flip her over and just run. I think last time you said he ran. He ran from her. He ran from me. Wait.

So have you. Ran. You're trying to not pull out. I tried to make him not pull out. Yeah, yeah. And you haven't been able to do that yet? I mean, I kind of have. Like, there's been like maybe...

No, he always does. He always... He's really good about... Are you watching? I don't know. I know everything about her sex life. I have her on FaceTime, okay? And I'm like, Tama, does this happen?

I'm like, just run, just run. You've got an in. You can get out the door. You've got space. You've got room. Go. He is really good about knowing, like, when he will, like, pull out, like, a good. Poor David does not like to be talked about.

I know. Oh, my God. He does not like to be talked about. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, babe. I'm sorry. I don't. He knows how to time it.

I'm not saying the pull-out method. I'm not here to campaign. Is it a safe sex method? But, like, yeah. As a guy like it's not that safe my second that's how my second child was conceived what yeah so we had had all these miscarriages and so we were told by the doctor to wait a year so i was like cool we'll just have sex on my period and we'll do it this way as protection and i something happened or it was the postman and

I got pregnant. Okay, noted. There's probably a lot of girls out there with your kids. Oh no. Right? Well, at this point, whatever, fuck it. You would be happy to find a child that was yours.

If some girl called you up and said, Nick, remember like two years ago when we, you know. And this is your you would say i need a dna test well i mean especially that story i would i would it would bother me because i would feel like i really missed out on two years that would really i'd really you can look after my child anytime i would love a break come on over yeah come on over. Come on over, babe. So what's your next plan? Are we still just going to... So I guess...

I mean, is this like a serious thing your husband... It's a serious thing. No, it's like for real. Like, it's for real. He's literally like... What are his reasons not to want to have a... Well, he's like... Okay, so he's 10 years older than me.

So now he's like, oh, I'm just like, I feel like I'm too old. It's like so much energy. I feel like that'll make him feel younger. Right? That's what my husband's thing is too. He's like, I'm too old to have a third child. I'll be, I'll be a grandpa by the time they hit college. The thing is when you're younger, cause we're 10 years and I'm 12 years, I still have a good decade to have children. I still, I can still have children for another 10 years. And so I don't know if I'm done. I don't know if I'm ready for my body to be done yet. And then there's a whole psychological thing

that goes with that too. It's like, okay, so now I'm not having kids. Okay, so then are we done here? Like, are we done with the whole period kid thing? Who's we? Me and my ovaries. Me and my eggs. And we start repairing the damage, right?

Are we done? Are my ovaries and me done with reproduction? Are we breaking up? Are we breaking up? Because then I'm'm like if we're not having kids and i don't want a period i'm done i'm out do you think you're gonna win this battle no i don't think i'm gonna win the battle because ultimately it's like his like i i'm kind of dependent on his hardware so if he is so like not in that mode and he knows how to time it and like does it like that he just went okay tell me tell me tell me what what if you think in the shower something's going on okay put a camera in there okay okay and find out and then you need to be

watching the monitor when he's showering because and then there's probably something in the shower huh but will it be washed down the drain? But maybe it won't be. You know what I mean? Let's just be hopeful. Yeah? Yeah. That's true. Let's just be hopeful.

I'll try it. I'll try it. I don't mean to burst your bubble. I don't know. Oh my gosh. I feel so bad. Yes, yes. Let's talk about the meaning of life or something.

But in all seriousness, you hope to convince him to want to have a child and you probably won't. That's kind of where it seems like it's going. Like I ultimately would love to have a second child. I'd love for my daughter to have a close sibling. Like I'm close with my sisters. I would hope for her to have that same relationship, but it kind of doesn't look like it's going

in that way. And there's no vasectomies going on here. So you're both of your husbands are capable of in theory yeah i mean yeah i mean i guess as you said maybe you'll get lucky like i'm wondering i'm wondering if i stop bringing it up and just kind of like don't say anything and then let it go and see maybe you think it lacks yeah exactly he won't think i'm like after sperm that she wants it though she said she wants it and then she had a scare the other day and she was sweating bullets and she was like oh my god what am i gonna do so like i feel like she thinks that she wants a child then she sees how much i would just went through like literally i had a baby a year ago i was like

i felt like i was high for a good seven months like i i left my key i left my car running like three times i went to yoga and the car was literally on. I invited people to the wrong address, like 25 people to the wrong house. I left my phone in the fridge for a day. Did you know you were pregnant then? No, this was after baby. After baby postpartum is such a real thing

that I think Roxy saw how batshit crazy I was. And she was like, eh, maybe on second thoughts. There is something kind of like scary because we did have like not a scare. Yeah. But like maybe I thought I was pregnant. And I started thinking about going back into that stage, you know, of like being in the weeds and like the diapers and the sleepless nights and the throw up and the shit all over you. And it's like. No one's prepared for it.

It's so funny because I know a few people who are pregnant and um and they're just like oh this baby and and i'm just the whole time and it's all moms the first child and all moms feel this way they're just like smiling inside because they're like you have no fucking idea because for me i was that too like i brought lingerie to the hospital i i left the hospital in a diaper in a literal diaper from front to back that you're in for like because after c-sections too you still you still have to wear a diaper i was in a diaper for like a week and a half bleeding like profusely i can't believe i didn't die because you're like how does this much blood happen and you don't die you can't even walk you're just you're waking up every hour. It is the most intense, beautiful, miserable, depressing euphoria that you've ever been in.

And you can't explain that to anyone, especially pregnant people, because I think it's just going to be I just think it's going to be all beautiful. And it's it's so intense. Like your nipples have been bitten on so much that they become so red. They start to bleed like no one talks about that. They start to crust. I remember just crying in the shower. My boobs were crusting over. Like the nipples were crusted, right? Because, and then you have to let her latch onto the crust, which is so painful.

And a scab on the scab. I would cry. I think breastfeeding was harder than actually giving birth. Yes, no, especially when you have a C-section and when your milk drops, it feels like you have like fire coming out of your breasts it's like it is just it's so painful and then like when you have a c-section like my husband sold my intestines literally be removed from my entire body because

they have to make way i think you're gonna pass out um they like move the intestines and take your baby out and you're just kind of out of it like people think that c-section you feel totally alert you do not wait or i did not i felt like when you have a c-section are you yeah you are alert you're awake blanket right they just give you a spinal so you're you're you can't feel anything from your neck down yeah pretty much yeah and it's the weirdest feeling like you'll see your legs move but you don't think it's your legs so it looks like your legs yeah and you start freaking out you're like can somebody move my leg because like oh i know i can't freak out anything and then i told them not to put morphine in it because with my first they

put morphine in the drip and i would shake and the baby would shake so i was like don't put morphine in the second and i was so afraid to not feel my feet and then the minute my feet started to feel back i'm like yay i can feel my feet i can feel my feet i'm like holy fuck i just feel like my stomach has been cut open and i'm like can i have some And they're like, I don't think Advil's gonna work. I'm like, just give me something! It was so intense. No, it's intense.

It's awful. So now, do you still want to have a child? I mean... She's like, eh, maybe she'll have another one for me.

I'll have a surrogate, I think. Yeah? I mean, the surrogate's not a bad idea. Have you had discussions with your husbands about vasectomies?

I have not. And you have. I have, yeah. And how does he feel about that? I think he would do it, but I don't think he's ready. It's funny. I don't think he's ready to throw in the towel just yet. It's weird because I feel like we're in it.

We're in the first year, which is so intense. And now we're out of the first year. Yeah, like your second's only a year old. I know, which is a year tomorrow. I feel like it's too soon to really, especially in his case, or probably either of you, to really know if you really are. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do it to my body again because I've had complications.

You've had scary complications too. Yeah, and I've got like a split in my abs. It hurts my back. And so there's so many painful things. And I also, the second baby almost ruptured through my scar scar a lot of people don't talk about uterine ruptures because they want to have a v-back which is a vaginal birth after delivery a c-section and so i really wanted a v-back of vaginal delivery so where does that mean like you have a c-section but first time the second time you want to try because yeah because most people don't they don't

want a c-section you don't want to if you have a c-. They don't want a C-section. If you have a C-section. You have to do a C-section. No, you don't actually have to. You can do a V-back. And I wanted to do a V-back. And for some reason, two days before I had the C-section with my second, I just woke up and I was like, something's wrong. I was like, I have to have a C-section.

When they did the C-section, my daughter's face was so close to rupturing through my scar and so what happens when that happens is she ends up in my stomach and then the only way to know if that happens is death there is no sign you don't know if the baby's both of both so he said that i was like a day away from like not surviving so so for example if we have a third kid i'd have to have the baby so early and i don't want to do that so i'd probably have a surrogate roxy i meant if it's the only way i get number two who gets the kid i know right everything else right split it yeah we'd get more sleep that way i Totally. I could do nights because you like to go out and do your red carpet thing.

Yeah. So I'll do nights and I hate going out because I have social anxiety. So I'll just do, I'll do nights, you do days. Yeah, okay, that works. Good schedule.

We're good. Yeah, figured it out. Wow. Thank you, Nick. God. I'm glad I could really talk this through, you guys. Before I let you guys go,

or you ladies go, rather, we play this game called Do You Know Me? It's real simple. I ask you guys some simple questions. They're pre-selected. Don't answer right away. Rochelle and I are going to guess. Yeah.

Oh, okay. If Rochelle and I and our listeners at home. Who knows Roxy and Tammin better? It's all about kind of listening to what we've talked about. Yeah. Just kind of reading body language. It's about being a good listener. Being a good listener. You ladies ready?

Okay, let's go. Okay. Question number one. Number one, has Tam and Roxy seen someone naked, not including their children. Or husband? Not including their children. Oh, okay. In the last 24 hours.

Yes, what kind of question is that? Her husband, who knows, could be traveling. He sleeps in the basement. Poor the baby. I'm simply saying. What about porn or picture online? Does that count? That definitely includes.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We're women on top. Come on. Women on top. Well, Roxy has given herself away. She definitely has. Timon. She didn't sit down.

What? Doesn't include yourself. Does not include yourself or your kids. She didn't sit down until 1130. I'm going to say Tamin has not seen someone naked in the past 24 hours. 24 hours. That is true because my husband left at 4 this morning. And you are not happy about that?

This morning, but you could have seen him last night. But she didn't. At 11. I'm sure I got a page. Plus he has clothes on when he goes to bed. Does he sleep in clothes? Don't you guys sleep in clothes? I sleep in my underwear.

It's not naked. I'm just answering the question. I sleep in like, oh my god, this is too much information. I just sleep in the top part. Oh, just no bottom? Yeah. That's so weird. I've gotten lazier in life. You just no bottom you're ready you're ready like sometimes like i used to always just sleep in my underwear now it's just like sometimes i'm just like too tired to take my socks off it's like fuck it i'll just

sleep with my socks on the t-shirt on always a t-shirt on t-shirt i'll wake up like why really i slept in this socks and what underwear yeah or just your socks no never just socks oh okay I don't want that would be interesting so for women you don't want like you need

I feel like you need a top on I feel like you need bottoms cause you know stuff leaks out oh no I I love whoa

got to know Rochelle a little bit better we didn't expect that it's just women's anatomy I like and I have a whole bed. In the summertime, I like to sleep naked just because it's hot. I like to sleep with my mom everywhere.

You don't? I never sleep with a bra or anything. I don't sleep with a bra, but I like a t-shirt because I feel like there's just, I don't know. Really? But no. Just cover? Yeah. It's so weird.

Otherwise, you wake up with it on your neck. That's how we sleep, people. Question number two okay and these are all over the board they're not all they're all sex or naked related uh does i i picked a lot of i picked a lot of sex ones because you know women on top you know it could mean career yeah we know i get the I was like, it's a double meaning. Does Tammet and Roxy know what TMZ stands for? TMZ, the T, M, and the Z.

I've been on it. Definitely not. They look very confused. Oh, yeah. The wilder. Definitely not. Yeah. No, I guess not. You look very confused. Oh, yeah. The wilder. Definitely not. Yeah. No, I guess not.

You? I don't. What does it stand for? What does it stand for, Rochelle? Do you think it even stands for anything? Apparently. I'm looking it up. TMZ meaning?

What does it stand for? Do you know what IBM stands for? Or ATM? I bet you know what ATM stands for? Or ATM? I bet you know what ATM stands for. 30 mile zone. The historic studio zone within a 30 mile radius

centered at the intersection of Beverly and La Cienega. All right. Did not know that. The more you know. Something machine. Automated money. Automated teller machine.

Teller. Yeah. Right? Oh, good. I didn't see that up and it was real because that's what it is. Yeah, some of it

we can kind of figure out. What does IBM stand for? I used to know. Ask me anything about politics because I just became a citizen. Yeah, she is. She's American. Thank you. Welcome.

Welcome. Welcome to the club. Yeah. Question number. Not when you got married? No. She was a green card holder before. And I didn't get married for the citizenship.

So I had a green card and then because of acting, I got citizenship. Question number three. Okay. Has Tammen and Roxy ever shoplifted? I'm going to say yes because I feel like in high school, you know, they kind of wanted to be cool and maybe they shoplifted something to look cool. I'm going to say Roxy has. Really?

Anything. Like, for example, I have ordered a bag of chips at a restaurant and then I've taken two bags of chips. Technically, shoplifting. So I've never two bags of chips. Technically shoplifting. So I've never shoplifted but I have accidentally like you get home and you go I didn't pay for that. That's not shoplifting. But no it is because

you know why? No no wait because you go I didn't pay for that but then you don't go back and pay for it. Yeah I guess. But the problem with that is because of what we do Nick you get so much stuff

for free that you have to be careful to like not go well they would have given me this anyway you know what I mean I get stuff for free

I don't go to I don't go to a whole booth and be like you know what I can probably get this for free so it's fine just trust me

I'll just go home with this it's like they're gonna give you two sweaters it's like they probably would give you three you know what I mean what about you Roxy so confession time I have shoplifted I have you look like

trouble I mean it's a little trouble there's a little trouble under there do you remember what it was I do remember what it was I was actually pretty young I was like six yeah it was like a kid shoplifting like and so does that count no my mom made me go back into the store though I was like six. Yeah, it was like a kid shoplifting. Does that count?

No. My mom made me go back into the store though. Why are you saying shoplifting? Because I was wobbling. This is not knowing any better. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to take this pep. No, it's got to be with the intent like I have. Okay, when did you shoplift?

Probably like high school or college. When did you shoplift? I took an extra bag of chips. Oh, the chips i paid for i paid for you felt bad can i get a drink a sandwich and i was just like i want more chips and i'm just like think about the person that had that bag of chips that you just took those chips from yeah yeah by accident i had by accident. All right. Question. Take another one.

Number three. Can Roxy and Tammin name four kinds of dinosaurs? Oh, we have to do that. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I just gave it away.

I thought you were just asking questions. Yeah, well, sometimes with these questions, just a heads up, you'll immediately be like, oh my God, totally. And then you get to three.

Yeah, but together. I feel like together. We share a brain. Join forces. Oh, yeah. So this is together. Yeah. So Brontosaurus.

T-Rex. Raptor. Stegosaurus. Wow, there you go. We have children. And also my child hates dolls or anything girly. She's into like gremlins. She sleeps with a witch.

It's a snake. Does she sleep with that gift that we gave her? Yeah. Oh, the one? Yeah. That cute one. Okay, good. She sleeps with a witch and a snake.

She only wants to be a dragon or she loves, who's the really scary guy with the tongue from Marvel? Oh. Huh? She doesn't like any of the superheroes. Like the villain? Villains. Oh, God.

What's the one with the tongue? I don't know. I don't know. It's daddy because daddy's like. Question number four. Has Tammin and Roxy ever been injured from sex? And let's just clarify what an injury is here. What's an injury?

I mean. Like, oh, I think I may have pulled a muscle. That's not an injury is here. What's an injury? I mean. Like, oh, I think I may have pulled a muscle. That's not an injury. But like, it affected, like, you legit, like, hurt yourself. Well, on their podcast, they shared that crazy story of they ruined a room from sex.

That's not, that's not an injury. I know, but I'm saying if that can happen, I feel like an injury could happen. Sure, yeah. I feel like. Oh, I think they're both capable. They're on. When you're on top. When you're on top. Tamin seems like an exhibitionist.

Oh my god. When you're on top you can injure the penis. Not in life. Easily. I'm like I have social anxiety in life. I'm not exhibitionist in life. Alone with your husband has nothing to do with social anxiety. I say yes. Injured. Injured during sex. Fallen. Heard a penis?

No. No. Stop breathing? I don't think they have. No? You have to tell us. Oh, we have to tell you now? Okay.

Yeah, now you can answer. So I may or may not have had a mild concussion. Oh, my gosh. Did he drop you? No, I actually slipped on sperm. Oh, that's right. I remember. Ew.

No, that's when she was trying to steal it. Yeah. This is recently. She's never been the same since. Still got a little fuzzy up there. I have not. You have not? No, because it's massive. No, I'm just kidding. No, I Still got a little fuzzy up there. I have not. You have not? Injured?

No, because it's massive. No, I'm just kidding. No, I've been in pain. It's been painful. That's like, you know. It's just like an everyday Friday night. But it's been painful, but it hasn't been. That's normal wear and tear. Although I lost my tampon once.

It's not. That's just. I had to go to the doctor and they still can't find it. No, I swear. It's gone. Her body like sucked it up. It is just. I have to go to the doctor and they still can't find it. No. I swear. It's gone. Her body like sucked it up. It is gone. I swear to God.

I have toxic shock syndrome and that has been my problem my whole life because it is gone. That counts. I have not found it ever. It does count. It's probably like up to here now. No, I know. It probably just dissolved or I don't know. Or maybe you thought it was in and it wasn't.

I don't know what happened, but it's gone. That would make me so scared. Do you clearly... It's been 10 years. You do an x-ray? It's been 10 years. Well, the guy... I hadn't even had sex yet

and he just checked it and said there's nothing up there and I'm like, it's gone. Yeah, I feel like... How old were you here? 17. Maybe, I think maybe revisionist history. I think...

I went to the doctor, I remember. Wasn't really there. You took it out, you forgot. I don't know. I still wonder about it. I don't doubt that. All right. Next question for the new American citizen.

Ooh. And also Roxy. Can Tamman and Roxy name five states that began with the letter M? I'm pretty good at this. Oh, shit. I'm supposed to tell him. So, yes. I don't know. I'm not. I'm going to say they're

going to fail. Oh. Just for fun. Well, the problem is I know a lot about America. Like, a lot. America counts as one. America. I know a lot about America. The problem is I get a little confused with states and... Maryland. That's one. Maryland. Mississippi. Two. America. I know a lot about America. The problem is I get a little confused with states.

Maryland. That's one. Mississippi. Massachusetts. Maine. Maine. Did they say Maine already? No.

Missouri. You said Missouri already. No. She did not say Missouri. Missouri Missouri Missouri for the win in Missouri for the win say it again what are they Missouri Maryland Missouri Maryland Maine Massachusetts and Missouri no America no no okay hold on hold on You said Mississippi Mississippi Yeah you said Mississippi Okay

There you go Good job I was gonna say I mean You just qualified I feel like That should be on the top Of your

That's it She's American Last question You do Last question You do too Roxy's really good at politics Which is so random

Good memory When I was testing for my test It was 100 questions And I asked her 100 And she got like 92 right Wow Roxy's really good at politics, which is so random. Oh, good memory. When I was testing for my test, it was 100 questions and I asked her 100 and she got like 92 right. Wow, Roxy. And I was like, what? Well done.

Stay in school. Yeah, stay in school. Stay in school, kids. Last question. Do either of you, Tammy and Roxy, have their read receipts on on their texts?

Like you can't read it? No, like, okay. We get a receipt back when they know like when someone when you read your text they people can tell okay you don't even know what that is they don't know what that is when it says seen yeah and it says right well it says right that's your that's instagram but but same same premise on text um you would have to turn it on. So I'm going to say you don't have it. I would never want people to know that I've read their text. So sometimes Roxy will text me and I'll be like, I didn't get your text. No, just kidding.

I never do that to you. It was when people call you and then they text you. If they've seen that you've seen it, then you have to pick up their call. But do you know what? You do have those receipts on your text because I can see when you read them because it pops up as red so when you tell me you haven't seen my text i do i never say i've never seen your dad i know that's true that's true i don't have it yeah yeah you do can you turn it off it's a better use case for single people out there dating yeah can you please turn it off i think you have to turn it off right can you just show me how to

i'm glad you identified this problem. I know. Things we found out. How did I not know that? Because everyone knows you're reading their text and you're not responding. You have to turn it off. Oh my God.

There's one person I always don't respond. Uh-oh. Who is that? What is their name? I'm going to say it. Where can people find you ladies and what are you currently working on that you'd love to share with our audience?

You go first. Okay. So you can find us on Women on Top Official on Instagram. And also Women on Top for our podcast. And yes. iTunes and Spotify. Yes. On iTunes and Spotify.

All of your podcast platforms you can listen to us on Women on Top. My Instagram handle is at Red red carpet roxy with a y very important on my e and yours is mine is tem and sersak and i have a film coming out which i'm super excited about and by the way you guys might know me from pretty little liars i don't know if nick ever said that he's like who's this random person we talked about in the intro yeah jenna um the blind girl on'm full of liars you played a i never saw pretty little lies you played a blind we don't know anything about it honestly i i know plenty i know plenty now yeah you're like i know a lot about it um if you're

in australia and you're listening i actually directed and wrote a tv show called um it's online now and it's called aussie girl which is loosely based on my life about a girl who's successful in one country, comes here and no one gives a shit. So she's selling chicken thighs on Hollywood and Vine, which didn't happen, but it's loosely based on my life. And then the movie Wailing comes out in two months with Tom Felton and Wendy McLennan Covey from the Goldbergs and David Koechner from Anchorman.

He's so funny. My hubby and I wrote it. And I'm in it. So check it out. That's awesome. Check it out. In two months? In two months. Is it going to be in theaters, Netflix?

It's going to be in theaters and Netflix, yeah. Whaling. Be online. Whaling. Actually, no. They changed the name. It's called Breaking for Whales. Breaking for Whales.

They changed it? They changed it because it had to be a B. But that's a whole other story. Things I don't know about. But yeah. So just directing and writing and trying to live a life with husbands

and children and you can also find me on Red Carpet Roxy my website also with a Y where I interview are you going to be

at the Oscars? I will be at the Oscars yes so watch out yes so you can find me on the red carpet and at

Red Carpet Roxy awesome well ladies this has been very enlightening I've learned a lot hopefully the people listening have as well it's been a lot of fun

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anything else Rochelle no this was so fun thank you guys for coming on thank you for having us I feel like we're friends now and then we'll never see you again that's not true I mean now I know how you feel about me. But hey, I thought we were going to be hanging out all the time. It's like now we just spent three hours together.

We actually spent more time than a movie. I was thinking about that today. Yeah, that's an investment. There you go. There you go. We should go. All right. Well, thanks for listening, everyone.

Have a great day. We will see you back on Monday.