The Viall Files - E837 - Nobody Wants This w/ Jackie Tohn, RHONY, Vasectomies, and Tom Brady’s Instagram

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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pop culture moms, find it wherever you get your podcasts. You're crazy. What's going on everybody? What's going on? Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Kirsten. And I'm your host, Kirsten. And I'm your host, Kirsten. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vox House Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by the household and babe, I know we're going to work out.

I know we are going to make it forever, but if for some reason we don't- Oh my God, are you divorcing me? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But do you think- I think this is the time. He's if for some reason we don't. Oh my God, are you divorcing me? Absolutely not, absolutely not. But do you think- I think this is the time, he's like, I think we're done. I can wait. No, all right, so like, we have three or four kids,

we're done having kids, and then I don't, I die, I die, because I would never leave you. What the hell is going on? Well, what's better, me leaving you or me dying? This is an intrusive thought. Yeah, this is an intrusive thought. Manifest it, say thank you for coming into my head, but it's not gonna happen.

Knock on wood. Later on this episode, we got the amazing Jackie Tone from the new hit show, Nobody Wants This. If you haven't watched it on Netflix, I don't know what you're doing, because it's truly amazing, but she's with us and she's so much fun. Get ready to laugh out loud.

Would you only date men with a vasectomy? Honestly, yeah. Okay. She said we have three or four kids, yope. My dad has a vasectomy. Okay, good to know. It's a real thing. It's a real thing.

They actually do the procedure. I don't know if that would be like a first date question. I don't know if that would be something that I would like. You wouldn't put it on your dating bio? I wouldn't put it on the bio. Like must have vasectomy. Is Kristin Cavallari putting on her dating bio? She put it out in the like. You wouldn't put it on your dating bio? I wouldn't put it on the bio. Like, must have vasectomy. Is Kristin Cavallari putting it on her dating bio? She put it out in the universe.

Yeah, she put it out in the world. Was it like funny, ha ha ha ha, or is she dead serious? She said, you wanna know what else is a deal breaker for me? I want someone who's had a vasectomy. I don't wanna have to worry about ha ha shit. But like, she was dating the hot 22-year-old, like, and I'm gonna go ahead and assume that. No, he said he wanted go ahead and assume that.

The reason I- No, he said he wanted to have kids with her. So I think maybe- The reason I hesitated is because it is kind of somewhat jokingly, but it's also, I think, she's being serious in a sense, you know? I get it. Like the contrast has to be serious

if she's throwing it out there. It is interesting how she went from like, I remember when she had him on her podcast and she was like, you know, people wanna know what's our end game? And he was like, definitely marriage, and she was like, you know, people wanna know like what's our end game? And he was like, definitely like marriage. And she was like, kids, you can say it. He was like, yeah, kids for sure.

I think they broke up like a week later. Yeah, I think that. Well now we know why. Yeah, I think that's the, I think she's jokey ha ha. But also I think she's like letting everyone know that she's like not in the market for more children. And she's also saying that she's not gonna date another 23 year old.

She later confessed her perfect guy would be a man who is 44, successful, and has two kids going off to college, vasectomy. You know who didn't get a vasectomy? Who? Giselle's new boyfriend. Who? Absolutely not.

And Tom Brady, he's tweeting like a teenage girl. Wait, did you say you know who did it? He really did. That was Mary's joke, sorry, I saw it from Mary. It's okay. She was really quiet earlier. Wait, so who got the vasectomy? Giselle. Giselle's boyfriend. No was Mary's joke, sorry, I saw it from Mary. It's okay. She was really quiet earlier. Wait, so who got the vasectomy? Gisele.

Gisele's boyfriend. No, Gisele, I don't think it works that way. No, I know, I know. Did your mom also get one? No. I was thinking about what side of the Brady drama got it. Gisele's boyfriend does not have a vasectomy? Well, she's pregnant.

Correct. Yeah. Wow, the joke kinda went down a- That was Nick's transition. Yeah. That was Nick's transition. Sorry. That was Nick's transition. Sorry guys. Tom Brady is posting like,

a teenage girl. He is literally listening to Lana Del Rey. He is like posting like really deep quotes. Tom Brady is experiencing the emotions that literally a 13 year old girl figures out just now. I respect it. I love it. Yeah.

What are some of the things Tom Brady posted? He's posting through it. He definitely shouldn't be doing this. What was his first post? Wasn't it like a Fleetwood Mac? It was a sunset with the chicks cover of Landslide. Landslide. Oh yes.

Which is the most like, Yeah. He's going through the seven stages of grief. I just saw him at a McDonald's with another girl. You know what I mean? Yeah. I love this for him. I love it for him too.

I think he's tapping into his sensitive era. Yeah, it shows he's mean? Yeah. I love this for him. I love it for him too. This is the first time I've ever liked him. I think he's tapping into his sensitive arrow. Yeah, it shows he's human. Yeah. The first time I've ever had any empathy for him. How would you feel if you divorced me and then you were like, I'm gonna go date a bunch of models and fuck this bitch.

And then I was like. Where you see him in T-style. Yeah, and then I was like, oh, well I'm pregnant by my hot new, is he hot? Do we know what he looks like? I think, I'm pregnant by like my like hot new. Is he hot? Do we know what he looks like? I think isn't the assumption that there was a bit of an overlap with Giselle and Mr. Karate? Oh, is this him? Yeah, the jujitsu guy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they yeah, there's everybody always says there is an overlap

So so if you left and she left him she filed for divorce. Oh, well, I guess I don't know much about it But he's posting through it. But if if you did leave me for a karate guy, I would definitely. Post Landside. Yeah and then. Yeah. And talk about Roosevelt. Mario Lansky, Mario?

Mir? Mar? Mauricio. I'd mow it. Wait, does everybody have a heartbreak song? Well it used to be John Mayer. John Mayer really got me through some breakups. What would you post, Leia? I would post Smallest Man Alive

by Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards. Could y'all imagine? Brand new song. It's pretty fire. Wait, say Connor breaks up with you, Sierra, and Nick is like, Justin, let's do a diss track. How would you feel about that? I mean, if he did to me what Zach did,

then yeah, I'd be like, I respect it. Thank you for loving me and showing me support and fuck that guy. Zach Ryan is posting like she never existed. It's wild. His whole career is- He's posting like a teenage boy. His whole career is subtle, distractive woman.

Yeah. Yeah. That is true. So it's like, if he can do it, we can do it. Is he the Taylor Swift of country men? Yeah, kind of in a way, yeah. It is crazy because he has been kind of like teasing his new songs that he's writing and they're very much clearly like a heartbreak,

like I'm waiting by the phone for a call that will never happen, whatever the lyrics are. But it's like- They might not land. No, it's landing. People are like, hell fucking yeah, like Zack is back. It's landing. Like heartbreak, yeah, it's landing. People love a heartbreak song.

People love the artist. They do. And honestly, I think that's why he did it. I think he was like, I need like heartbreak. I need to feel something and I need to write a new album. I mean, this diss track, I will say, I went to look for it on Spotify and this morning it's disabled.

So you can find it, but you can't play it. But it's still on TikTok. Isn't that like censorship or something? There's a lot of that. There's can find it, but you can't play it. But it's still on TikTok. Isn't that like censorship or something? There's a lot of that. There's gotta be something going on in the process, yeah. He's like, you can't play that. How much power does Zach Brian have at Spotify?

Is it on YouTube? I don't know, but it's a good song. The music video is on YouTube. We have it linked if you wanna watch it. It's definitely not a good song. Like it's not like, I love it. I don't know if I'd characterize it as like... I've listened to it so many times.

When I say good song, I don't mean like, oh, it's gonna win a Grammy. I mean like it's catchy and like, you know. I said diss track for a reason. Yeah. It's no not like us. They got their girls back. It's funny, it's silly and it's goofy

and they're talking shit in a very creative way. I'm a sucker for audit too and I kinda like it. Kind of giving like old school YouTube beef. Yeah. You know. Which I love. I was gonna say, I'm kind of... I'm a sucker for audit too and I kinda like that. Kind of giving like old school YouTube beef. Yeah. You know? Which I love. I was gonna say, I'm kind of. Yeah.

I'm gonna repeat all day. Throw it back. Can we just do a silly one? Yeah, like a silly little diss track. What is the last diss track you remember? Cause I think of like. I mean I. Jake Paul.

I would probably just say like Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Okay. That just went back. Well that's recent. Yeah. Do you think Gypsy Rose's ex Ryan should make a diss track? Cause they be messy right now. That's a good transition. And it's so, listen, I, I, I, you know.

I still give her a pass. I don't know. She's been saying like, listen, like I need him to move on. I want him to be happy. And then he's like smacking a girl's ass and she's like, well, he is my husband, still, and we are still married. So it's like, you're pregnant with another man's baby.

He smacks a girl's ass, and it's like, absolutely the fuck not. I kind of respect the hypocrisy and delusion, and just full force. Yeah, I don't. Well, and he's not the one posting all of these videos, too. Like, some of the women that are around Ryan are the ones posting it.

And Gypsy's commenting on the women's posts. Yes. She's how many months pregnant? She's like, in her third trimester. Maybe she's just, you know, maybe she's feeling a certain sort of way, her body's alienating her. This is not the place she needs to be putting her energy in this last trimester of pregnancy.

Gypsy, I'll always have your back. Imagine that you're the girl that's like dating Ryan and your ideal clout chasing is Gypsy Rose's ex's Ryan. You know what I mean? Like that's crazy. That kind of is crazy. You're saying the girls are clout chasing by dating Ryan? If they're like posting about it.

Or they like him? Sure, maybe. That man has fire deep. No, no, no. These are not like, these are my boyfriend. This is like, we're at a bonfire in the middle of nowhere. Oh, Ryan Anderson is there. Let's post a catchy TikTok.

You know, and like- Lea did make a point that Ryan is kind of just stiff body standing there while they're talking. He was, and then she was twerking on him and he was like, fuck it, I was my graph. Yeah. It's gonna be on my face. Would you guys twerk on Ryan?

For how much? That's a quick answer. One million views on TikTok. A million views. I'd probably do it for 50 bucks. Okay. Twerk on him? Okay, I will Venmo you right now. I'm literally just bending over, what, shaking my ass? Yeah.

And he has to smack it. For $50? I'll be honest, I'd do it for free. I don't like to dare. I'm not like- That's true, I would do it too. I'm not afraid. What is going to happen?

I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm't like, I'd dare, like I'm not like. That's true, I would do it too. I'm not afraid, like what is gonna happen?

Hey. Not only space right now. To be clear, my pants are still on in this scenario. Like. Well, you'd make an enemy out of Gypsy probably. Yeah, Gypsy would be commenting on you. That's true. This is about to be a weekly headline.

Nick said no one has to pay me to shake my ass. Nick's gonna twerk on Ryan, wants to twerk on Ryan Anderson for $50. Breaking news, he wants to, I'm just saying. He said I'll do it, I'll do it for $50 for free. Breaking news, Nick Vile wants to twerk on Ryan? Gypsy's gonna get in the comments of this video and she's just gonna be like, Nick, I thought we were friends.

My man wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole. Would you like to preemptively, publicly apologize to Gypsy Rose? Gypsy, where's my camera? I'm just kidding, I'm sorry. I always have your back. She did release her paternity results and it is Ken, the father.

So we have that answered. Honestly. Why did she have to release them? I mean, she kind of did at this point. Cause people suck. But also like if we're still going after Ryan, it's like, why are we going after him? Is there a reason?

Is it because he's a father of Richard? Is there some underlying, what's going on there? I would have some questions. Kind of feels like getting the test was like there was some uncertainty. No, a lot of people were saying that there was crossover because by the time that she broke up with Ryan or ended their marriage and whatnot,

but at the same time. Also remember the laws about if you're legally married, you can't divorce within a period. And then they at the same time, like. Also remember the laws about like, if you're legally married, you can't divorce within a period. Or like the. They became the father on the certificate. So I think she just had to. To shut everybody up. Yeah.

Do you think Roger Rabbit ever had to do a paternity test? Because Jessica Rabbit was so hot. Did they have kids? I was gonna say, did she have kids? I don't know, but Robert Zemeckis said. They give dinks. Sorry. Jessica Rabbit is just too damn sexy for modern Disney. Well, so the director of like the original films basically was asked if there's going

to be another film and he said, here's what you have to know and you know this, the current Disney would never make Roger Rabbit today. They can't make a movie with Jessica in it. She's too sexy, essentially. So, I mean, which cartoon character would you wanna fuck? I feel like we've answered this before. Yeah, I don't remember my answer, though. Aladdin, Hercules.

Who is the, uh... Disney adult. Who's the... Oh, yeah, I forgot what the Disney crisis is. Lion King, who's the... Simba? Mufasa Scar? Scar. She's in the furry. Do you remember in The Lion King 2, that Simba Simba Mufasa scar scar she's in the

Do you remember in the Lion King to that like emo guy? That's not what's no way did she in sleep no that's No snow I did she slept share in the glass area Apple Ariel has a mermaid not as a human tell me how that works. Tell me how that works. Exactly. You know what Snow White can boss men around. So if you're like submissive. That's true.

Snow White is a dom, she's giving dom. Jasmine takes no shit. Are you submissive? Jasmine. No. Shigo from Kim Possible. Not you asking now. Shigo.

Kim Possible's cute. I thought this was the episode where we're like getting all of our questions out. Like if I die, if I divorce, psychedomy. Suddenly this is Steven answering his kinks. Suddenly. That goth girl from

Teen Titans, remember her? A raven? Yeah. She has a hot Halloween costume. She has a hot Halloween costume. Our enomatics, Jimmy Fallon and Chloe Bailey are going to headline Macy's Thanksgiving parade. She just really officially made it. Our enomatics, Jimmy Fallon and Chloe Bailey are gonna headline Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. She's really officially made it. Yeah. She really has. I forgot this existed, first of all.

Not in an offensive way, but I feel like when I was little, the Thanksgiving Parade was like the thing. Yeah. Oh my God. It's on our TV every Thanksgiving. Okay, so you're watching it. And then right after the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Dog show. Dog show, thank you. She's on a float with Jimmy Kimmel by herself.

Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon. Don't be tall. I'd get them mixed Fallon. Don't let me tell you. I get the mix up too. How dare you? I'm sorry, Kimmel. There's a white man with brown hair that hosts a show. How dare you?

I'll apologize to Kimmel for that. But I mean, kind of a big deal. Like post-Vanderpump, by herself, like not as a member of Vanderpump, just as Ariana Maddox. Well, I wonder if she's- It's not Ariana Maddox, it's Vanderpump. It'll be for Broadway.

I was gonna say, the Chicago- Are we gonna get Ariana? Yeah, they are. They take like the most popular people from Broadway and they put them on flow. She's sure, but I'm just saying. Annie did it before. You're still right. Why are you trying to talk shit about Ariana?

Wait, are we gonna see Ariana Maddox sing like Cell Block Tang, like from Chicago? Yeah, maybe. Is she part of that song? No. No, she's not. That was Catherine Zeta-Jones big moment. Yeah, that's incredible. Wait, I'm gonna be there.

Charlie D'Amelio will also make an appearance, which is interesting. Cause I forgot that D'Amelio's were kind of like in the spotlight. Cause I feel like they fizzled out a little bit. As Addison Rae took over. Yeah. Yeah. No one saw that coming.

No, yeah. Addison made a switch up. Yeah. Hmm. What are you thinking about, Natalie? Oh, I just didn't made a switch up. Yeah. Hmm. What are you thinking about, Natalie? Oh, I was thinking about Lala Ken's three-year-old Ocean cutting her own hair, and what I would do if I ever cut her own hair.

I would be proud. That also did happen. She wants to be in hair silence. You would be upset? No, I'm being for real. I think my hair was so bad as a kid because I just wouldn't stop cutting it. And I think Ocean found the small,

they weren't even, did you see the scissors that she used? Was it a nail clipper kind of one? I think Ocean found the like, they weren't even, like did you see the scissors that she used? Wasn't it like nail clipper kind of ones? Yes, it was the smallest, and you know she was just in there like, really like she had to be going at it. I would be so proud of River's initiative. I will say, I think she did a kind of good job. She gave herself a nice little curtain bang,

she didn't go too close to the scalp. Definitely wouldn't ruin my day, that's for sure. She definitely, I think just like as a mom, it's like, oh honey, no. That's what I took. I think it's a right of passage. I cut my own hair. Yeah.

Well, now I'm just excited she got invited to Lala Kent's. Which is today. Is it, oh. How you going? Is it after this? It is, I'm leaving here. Are you gonna say hi?

Do you think Lala Kent knows you're coming or do you think you got invited as an influencer? I think I just got invited. You're just on the invite. Yeah, because I feel like if she, then maybe she would have responded to my DM already. Is that something I bring up? Am I like, hey girl, are you going to respond to my DM?

How are you going to feel if she acts like she just doesn't know you exist? And I'll be like, hi, I'm Natalie. There's like a nine out of 10. No, I'll introduce myself and I'll be like, yeah. I don't expect everyone to know who I am. You already met. We have? Yeah. When? At Lisa Vanderpump's event.

Wow, Natalie's doing it. Wow. Well, too famous to remember. Okay, but she's not responding to my DM, so. What do you do though? You should bring a pair of professional hair cutting scissors to the event and see what she does. What do you do in the instance though if someone acts like they don't know you, but you know

you know each other? This has happened to me recently. Because this happened to me recently and I'm like, the person that acted like she didn't know me is coming to our friends' gifts. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, oh my god.

I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, you know each other This is this happened to me recently and I'm like she's the person that acted like she didn't know me is coming to her friends Giving and I'm certain she knew you I gave her job advice and then when someone asked her do you know this person? And she's like I've never heard of that Then I when you saw them at Thanksgiving thing, I'd be like, it's so great to meet you What was the advice genuine like this is how you should do it We were friends before she was on my Finsta in college when I had it. I's great. So like, what was the advice? What was the advice? Genuine, like, this is how you should do it. We were friends before. She was on my Finsta in college when I had it.

I'm like, this girl knew who I was. She was on your Finsta and she pretended not to know who you are. That's the thing. So I'm like, to that point, it's like, what do you do? Why do you think she did that? I don't know. No, I think you just act like you also don't know her.

So I don't know what to do. So you should do that to Lala if she doesn't recognize you. No, Justin, you should say, no, we've met. I gave you job advice and obviously it didn't work because you're dumb. Okay. Well, I'm not that petty. Yeah, that's what I would say.

Mary Tres Violins. Yeah. Do you hold grudges, Mary? Honestly, like, no, I just like to say things. Okay. Do you think that Heather Gay held a grudge against Monica for making her pay? For sure. Yeah.

For sure. She's at Monica Garcia is ordered to pay Heather Gay's beauty lab $35,000 after failing to pay her lip all that. For sure, for sure. Monica Garcia is ordered to pay Heather Gay's Beauty Lab $35,000 after failing to pay her lip injection bill. Remember this was like the ending storyline of last season. And it was like, it was like five grand, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. As long as she has to pay her legal bills.

It was 2,000 for her service with a prejudgment interest rate of 18% from 2020 to 2024. But because Heather's attorney fees are $31,550, Monica is now responsible for covering that as well. Has Monica spoken about it? She did post a very long story on her Instagram today this morning. What did she say?

Let me pull it up. Which wig was Monica wearing when she didn't pay this is my question. Here's the thing too, because we never really got that answer, because remember it was like, there was two separate names. And then it was like, she had used like her father's name in one of them and then use her own name in the other. But then she never said why

there was still two separate accounts. What did Monica say about it when she was here? I found it if you want me to read it. I didn't feel it appropriate to even comment on the situation yesterday, considering what was happening in our country. The things that actually matter. However, waking up this morning I still don't find it appropriate but wow the fact that this

lawsuit was even news on a day like yesterday says a lot. I'm in shock this morning. There is so much going on around us right now. There is so much happening in our country and world and it's astounding to me that a lawsuit is even on anyone's radar but here we are. My lawyers have made comments to the outlets reaching out to them and I find it so convenient that they aren't being shared. This was a shocking and bad decision. We have every intention of appealing and are confident in the outcome moving forward. I would say that I was surprised by the disgusting hateful comments online rejoicing in my downfall but after

seeing the decisions happening around us I'm not surprised at all. Hate, discrimination, the desire to destroy and glorify in people's pain has absolutely taken over this nation. My girls are healthy. I stay so grateful and blessed for every opportunity I've been given. There's so much in my life happening

that I have to be thankful for and that I'm so excited about. At the end of the day, being sued by someone is minuscule in the grand scheme of things. I am not the first housewife slash Bravo Liberty to be in this situation nor will I be the last. Believe me when I say we have so much more to worry about. Hoping that all those around our country

that are feeling fearful, devastated, shaken, anxious, or lost know that you are not alone. Damn. I honestly do love when people are like, there's bigger things to focus about right now. She's so right. Sure, but they're saying there's bigger things to focus about right now Sure, but they're saying there's bigger things to focus on while she's not focusing on the bigger thing I mean she's playing and you know, she could have just not posted about it. Yeah. Yeah It's a bit of a contradiction. He was like, you know, hey stop focusing on my lawsuit

Didn't you know there were other things happening right now? I mean, that's kind of the- Well, no, it's like, there are other things happening right now and I didn't want to have to talk about it, but here I am, I have to talk about it. Yeah, I guess. But she didn't have to talk about it. Also, what is she gonna say?

You're right, you already saw the court document, and it's like- Yeah. She could have been like, I will be back. What if Heather came out and was like, actually nothing is more important than this lawsuit right now? Well, that would be a choice. That would be a choice, this lawsuit right now. Well. That would be a choice.

That would be a choice. That would be a choice. That would definitely be a choice. Did you see that Sutton Strack and Lisa Barlow were in an MTV interview and they shaded Dorit? I did. I'm more shocked about Sutton, not shocked at Lisa did that.

Okay, I mean, Lisa was kind of the peace guard in this. So basically they were playing a guess who game and Sutton was holding the card that had Doree's face. Lisa Barlow gave her the clue saying she lives way above her means. Sutton responded, Doree, and said, have I ever been good with Doree? I said, let the mouse go with that woman.

I don't think she's ever let the mouse go. Lady can't get a hint. Lisa said, she's pretty though. Sutton responded, well, when you've had enough surgery, anybody can be pretty. Oh my God, dang. That's great. Woke up and chose violence.

She chose violence with a. That's awesome. I mean, it's also not technically true. I mean, a lot of people have surgery and. And botch, yeah. Yeah. Didn't go the way they went, you know. I mean, there is the theory that it's,

you're not ugly, you're just poor. Yeah. Yeah, that is a theory. It's like second. I actually disagree with that. You can be better looking if you're rich, but like some people it's just kind of like, you don't got it.

Is that one guy that's always trying to like morph himself with like all of these and. Oh, the one that's trying to age backwards. Yeah. I don't know his name. He literally looks like a brick. No, it's the twins who one of them is dating the weekend. They used to be like best friends.

Simi and Hayes. Like they're, I think a lot of people like refer to their glow up because that was just like so drastic and a lot of people were like, no, no, no, like you're not ugly, you're just poor. Bella Hadid. Even their brother, even their brother Fi I think was, but. I do think it applies though, like if you're ugly.

I think it applies too. You can find like the best surgeon ever and they can give you like. You can do M sculpt instead of going to the gym five times a week. Who are these two? Can I see a performing group? I think it's like, if you're rich,

you don't have to be ugly. Or you just. And if you are, that's a choice. Exactly. Yeah. You have access to things that are shortcuts that other people don't. If you meet a rich person.

And they're ugly. You just kind of look at them and go, wow, you must be very confident. Yeah. Like you're really wasting your wealth on things that you shouldn't be. Or like super philanthropic. Yeah.

Get a facelift. Yeah, that's definitely a glow up. Yeah. What's his name? Barry Corrigan wants you to know. Yogan. He has a huge cock. He also wants you to know that he's not a deadbeat dad. Is he a dad? Yeah, he's a son. He also wants you to know he has a huge cock. He also wants you to know that he's not a deadbeat dad.

Is he a dad? Yeah, he's a son. He also wants you to know that's me a special. Wait, how is he not a deadbeat dad? Well, I think just because he's not posting his son all the time, people are like, you're never with him, and it's like he probably just doesn't share. Because the kid and the mom are in a different country

as well, right? Sorry, bear. Yeah. It is interesting though. What? I said Nick kinda came for him. He didn't like Soutburn. I didn't. He didn't like Soutburn. He didn't finish it.

I didn't like Soutburn either. I liked it. It's like when everyone tells me it's the most amazing movie and then it's just like. Artistically, yes. Yeah, but don't, but lead with that. They did. And everyone was just like, it's. You have to see it.

It's the best movie ever. I hate that kind of hype too, because then I'm like disappointed. It was like pretending that it have to see it. It's the best movie ever I hate that kind of hype too cuz then I'm like Disappointed it was like pretending that it was like elevated Yeah, and I was like this is just gorgeous horny trash and can it not just be that why does it have to be smart? I thought it was elevated you have a way with words Mary It is interesting though that a lot of men are doing this whole like it wasn't a prosthetic thing Have you noticed that cuz even the monsters actor did it on watch what happens live? Yeah I think I really wanted people to know you think so because even the monsters actor did it on watch what happens live? Yeah, I think I really wanted people to know

You think so? I saw the clip Yeah, I didn't take it that way cuz Andy was like well the elephant in the room like he's like in the room. It's real That's well. He did answer fast, but yeah Well, what didn't you if like your huge dick is like on screen people like it's a prosthetic you'd be like no no no It's real. I know I think I'd play coy keep them guessing You'd be like, no, no, no, it's real. I know, I'd think I'd play coy. Keep them guessing. Yeah.

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slash vi all with helix better sleep starts now can we get into bachelor it I mean yeah there was a reunion do we like Charles dyed hair yeah I do we do he looks. He dyed his hair. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he said it was the food he was eating. Yeah, I know, he's cute. He has to be the next Golden Batch, right? I don't think he will be. They literally had a whole person speak out,

say, we want you on the behalf of Batch donation to be the next one. It's possible. That's giving, we're testing it out at least. Oh, they're definitely testing. Yeah. They're definitely testing. Would you, Pascal or Charles?

Charles. I just feel like if your last edit for Pascal was I'm not ready, I don't think the next edit is I'm ready. Yeah, definitely testing. Would you, Pascal or Charles? Charles. I just feel like if your last edit for Pascal was I'm not ready, I don't think the next edit is I'm ready. Yeah, definitely Charles. Okay, you would edit out Pascal? Yeah. Pascal's fun. I feel like Charles' season would be really cute

but very tame where I feel like Pascal would be like, let's jump off a building, let's go. The drama. He's just like, he's fun. I think Charles is really endearing and charming and great when it's always a small bit of the whole episode. But yeah, I don't know if it carries a whole season.

Yeah. I don't know. And I feel like we know Pascale's background. Pascale might be a little messy. Yeah. And we know where he comes from. Pascale's messy for sure. And Charles didn't make it that far, so it's like we didn't get to meet his family and

all that. I don't know. I just feel like there's a little bit of like- Here's the thing though. Because the last Golden Batch had a messier ending, it's like we didn't get to meet his family and all I don't know I just feel like there's kind of a little bit of like here's the thing though because the last golden batch kind of had like a messier ending I feel like we need wholesome to like prove that this is like a formula that works yeah it does feel like Charles is gonna be like best friends with all the ladies and I'm not sure if he's gonna like fall in love with all the ladies you know like move romantically wasn't that everybody like isn't every lead they you

say they know by the first night the top four. Yeah, but they, you know. How are we feeling about Dan? I feel like Dan should be our next. You love him. She loves Dan. I had to wait while they were announcing everyone.

I was like, which one's Dan? Which one's Dan? Well, that's a thing too. It's just like Joan wasn't in the top four. Like they definitely don't have to go like kind of what they usually do, like pick the top. I think especially with the golden franchises that people love all of them.

So it's like, it is pretty easy to pick someone. Well, it's not gonna be Jonathan cause he's seeing someone now. I know, we took him out of the running. Do you think it was his new girlfriend who made him wear the Ascot or scarf thing that he tucked in? Ascot? Wait, is that what it's called?

I love Ascot. Ascot's are cute, just throw it back. Add a little spice. You might look like a flight attendant, but neither here nor there. We're done with Mark. We don't have Jonathan. But I'm done with Mark being like Mark's taken. So who else was in the running?

It's the one that's dating another Golden Bachelor. Jordan. Jordan, he's taken. Did they confirm that? We don't know if they're dating. But he was also like, I don't know if it would be so interesting. We'll find out. I wonder when they might announce that.

They are casting in December. It has to be by the next episode, right? Because in the next episode where they reveal it? No. Or that's just the last couple seasons they did that. I feel like if they were going to reveal it, it would be either on the men tell all or after the final rose, or it'll be like announced outside of the show.

They'll do it during Grant's season or something like that. Cause Grant was announced before, wasn't Jen announced before? And wasn't Joan announced before? Before what? Before the final rose. No, Joan wasn't.

Or like after the final rose. Joan was announced like some random Tuesday or something. Yeah, but Joan, like they brought her out during final rose being like, this is your next. So like she had to have been announced before. Final rose of? Of Jen's. Sure, of Jen's maybe, but I'm just saying it won't happen this season of the Golden Bachelorette. Oh's like she had to have been in the final rows of of Jen's. Sure. Of Jen's maybe.

But I'm just saying it won't happen this season of the Golden Bachelorette. Oh, they might do it for the next bachelor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. Yeah. Because like it's not going to air for like another year. It seems like they're they're going to have one like a Golden Bachelor, then a Golden Bachelorette for the regular show. It's like in the same year, they'll have each one. Bachelor, bachelor, golden.

But I think they're alternating years. Okay. Yeah. How do you make your burgers? On the grill. And do you put anything on the burgers? Or is it just straight meat? Salt and pepper.

Lawry's. Lawry's. Oh, Lawry's. Some Lawry's. Substitute salt with Lawry. Okay, so you would hate it if they threw barbecue sauce. Little bud, little butter. Absolutely disgusting.

Who's putting barbecue sauce on there? It was Christopher. Well, it was him and Keith and Keith was like, you don't do that. You need to taste the meat, which is just salt and pepper. And he was like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. if they threw barbecue sauce. Absolutely disgusting. Who was putting barbecue sauce on there? It was Christopher. Well, it was him and Keith, and Keith was like, you don't do that.

You need to taste the meat, which is just salt and whatever seasoning, garlic, he said. Barbecue sauce doesn't pair well for a burger. Your dad likes barbecue sauce on his burger. He does? That's crazy. Putting it on the burger on the grill is insane. Because don't you put sauce on the meat

after it's off the grill? Yeah, but you could, I guess, it works as like a marinade, you know, so to speak, you could, you know, people marinate their meat, season their meat, meat, meat, meat, meat, meat. Next meat. Roanie.

Yeah. Okay. Do any of y'all like mezcal? Hate it. I hate it. I love mezcal. I can't believe Erin thinks she's bringing mezcal to America. That was wild.

She just believes in her business. Yeah, listen, she is confident in her. She's bringing Mezcal to America. That was why I will. She just believes in her business. Yeah, listen, she is confident in her. She's bringing it to the East Coast. I mean, isn't it the... MetLife Stadium is like, we want you to be our only Mezcal. That's kind of the big deal. I'm not knocking her business.

Like, I'm treating Erin really well. You hate Erin. You know? Hey, I think Erin. Who's Erin? Exactly. Are you joking? Roni? Roni? Oh, Erin, not hey, I'm Aaron Aaron. Who's Aaron? Roni Oh Aaron not Aaron. I was thinking Aaron Rodgers. I don't know why you got that spelling wrong in your head I know it's like Anyways, but yeah Aaron's mezcal like girl the way she was talking about the mezcal was that she

Discovered me she's an interesting character too because remember that episode where she's like, I'm a city girl, don't get it wrong. Yeah. I'm a city person. City person, and I'm like, what's the vibe we're going for here? Not a Manhattanite, not like. Because she's supposed to be like, uber wealth rich, but then the second you say she is,

she's saying she's not that. But she's also saying that she, Christopher Columbus Mezgal. This is also an episode of like, I created this, like with Brynn with her app. Yeah. Do we need another dating app? No.

What is different about it? Revolutionize the dating world where I was like, okay, how many times? She didn't really say much about it either. No. Mm-mm. I just think these women are- I think they're overproduced

and I think Bravo is leaning into it. I think they're like showing parts that they typically wouldn't show where like, remember when Brynn told Rebecca about like, the, you need to like fight back, you need to say like, bitch I have a clothing line. And then the whole like- You showed up wearing this?

Yeah, yeah, and then the whole, what happened with Erin and her husband? Oh, the mushroom, the mushroom thing, where she was like, don't talk about mushrooms. And then they showed her talking about mushrooms. So it's like, I feel like they are just very much leaning into the fact that these women do not have any real drama, and they're just trying to produce

and make it seem like they all hate each other, and Bravo's like, let's just show them, talking about how they're gonna have a fight later on in the evening. Watching Salt Lake City and then Rony, it's like they're not both the same. It's like you're watching a dress rehearsal for Housewives when you're watching Rony.

Maybe. Yeah, you're watching a bunch of understudies. Like practice. Yeah. They're trying to figure out how to be housewives. Yeah, and on Salt Lake City, we get like the husbands not parallel parking and then having like their own fight. I mean, it's like, and then like Brittany,

for all of you know, our commentary on here, she is excellent television. I look forward to Brittany every week. She is an interesting discussion. But, and like with Salt Lake City, you're like, these women fucking hate each other. And with this, you're like, you can tell they're all like friends. Yeah, that's true.

Because even the basic bitch comment was like, we're really trying to make it like super aggressive. It's like that. And it was like, OK, snarky, like, OK, basic bitch. Yeah. She's like, don't call me basic bitch. But she's not mad about it. Yeah. Yeah. So like, we're. Britney's a friend of on Salt Lake City and she's like carrying episodes. And then you get Rebecca Minkoff just like kinda sitting there looking polite, looking nice, smiling.

I like her. You know, a giggle here and there. Yeah, they all, again, I would be friends with all of them. They all seem like, you know, and with Salt Lake City, it's just like, I would be afraid to be friends with some of them. Like, I would. I did kinda feel this way about Povit and Jessel

when they were talking. When they sat down at dinner and they were like doing the IVF, having another child, the presents. Cause it was kind of like a, Povet's kind of like a character. Like he's playing the character, but like also is it real? But then Jessel's hyping it up to seem like it's like bad, but she's not really mad about it.

No, but Jessel was on Watch What Happens Live and Andy asked her, what did he get her for her birthday? And she said nothing. So it's like, it's not a bit. I think he genuinely feels that way. And it's just kind of frustrating watching like somebody trying to express something that's really important to her. And then him be like, but let me get a picture of this chicken. But even the couples therapy part where she's like,

let's go to couples therapy. And he's like, how much is it? Oh, no, no, no, no. I got a guy. I got a guy. And she's like, who? And he's like, well, just some anyone that will get us on a couch, like cheaper. And I'm like, there's no way he's acting like that on camera thinking he's gonna get a good at it No, like that's my biggest pet peeve too. Like sometimes like I'll be like talking about something or Connor will ask me a question and I start answering it and then he'll like

Be like another she'll start talking to the dog or something and it's like serious here. Are you joking? Yeah, like why am I wasting my breath? So it makes me that's one of my biggest pet peeves like don't ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer to it It's also like when they're sitting at that table and they're talking about how Uba's like mad at Brynn again for what, you know, and they're like, it's not that deep. It felt very much like them trying to be like this Uba trying to like make something bigger.

And then the girl's being like, wait, it's actually like not that deep. It's like, it really was not that big of a deal. And like, I know you're trying to make a fight out of it so we can have a scene right now, but it really wasn't that big of a deal. It does feel like practice. You guys are right about that.

The whole, like, Aaron saying something about Jenna with the Uber and the money. Out of nowhere, she was like, I can never trust her. And it's like, wait, did we miss an episode? And then Aaron's like, yeah, well, Jenna's been texting me a lot, so it's okay. Would it piss you off if your friend was like, wouldn't stop talking to your dad

and they've over and over and over talked about how they fucked dads? That would be uncomfortable. She does that with everybody though. Like she does it with your husband, she does it with your friends, your brother. I feel like that would bother me more if you do it with my husband and my dad.

But if I'm like, that's who she is. Yeah. And my brother, like, Jesus. Is there anyone left? If she's a flirt, then she's who she is. Yeah, my brother like if she's anyone left if she's a flirt Then she's not a threat right or is that maybe she is more of a threat actually I don't know. Do you think she's actually gonna? Actually that would make for TV. She made me sure the whole storyline is she flirts with everybody Aaron's family Yeah, yeah, and Aaron's dad is rich. Can you imagine? Oh, you want to make this show more interesting? Plot twist, the sugar daddy that Aaron was talking about on Jeff Lewis was her dad. That's crazy.

That would be crazy. That's alleged rumor. That's a season. Justin just started that. Just started that rumor. It just feels like Roni right now is just like a Jenna Lines fan cam and they're trying to create drama around it.

It is, but I will say Raquel and Mel's kind of conversations, that seemed authentic to me. Yeah. Like them at the art dealer and her being like- Yeah, Raquel feels the most authentic. And her just being like, I was with my ex, I built my art empire with my ex, and the second we divorced and I went with Mel,

people were choosing the side of the ex and saying that Mel was an affair essentially. And it's like, that seemed pretty real. And then her being like, my mom didn't support, she supported my marriage with the husband but not with my past wife. And now I don't know if she's gonna support Mel. I love Mel so much.

Mel's the coolest. Well, and Erin on Watch What Happens Live said that Abe loves Mel. So it's like, I think Mel is just like, authentic as well. Mel called Abe something this episode, and it was so cute. Like, Abe-licious or something. Like, she's got like a cute little pet name. Abe was giving Mel advice for the engagement. I'm like, this is, that's what we need.

That's like an authentic relationship. Yeah. Mr. Calling as a lesbian wedding planner? Well, and that's where they're catering to like the Jenna Lyons fan cam. Yeah. Did you also see on Watch What Happens Live for Halloween that Povit dressed up as Dory?

He's buying into, he did this before too, where he was like traveling and trying seafood restaurants with Dory, and he'd be like, eating Dory's friend, octopus. Eating Dory's friend, he did this before too, where he was like traveling and trying seafood restaurants with Dory. And he'd be like, eating Dory's friend octopus, eating Dory's friend cod. So silly. And that was like his bit. So he's buying, that's why I think he's a character for sure.

Yeah, Povit's really trying to like become a food influencer. I gotta respect the hustle. And what's his stage on? I think it's in tech, right? So he's like made his money. And now he's just looking for a hobby. That's what it appears to be.

Okay. I like him. He's a former financier and businessman. Okay. That's what it is. Investment banker, project leader, management consultant. Okay. All right. I will say Brynn's comment about Becca Minkoff kind of irritated me. Why? What was it?

Where Rebecca left early to go get an award for like, just her clothing and fashion, whatever. And she goes, Oh, I didn't know Nordstrom racks gives out awards We're in continuous. I was like first of all, where did that come from second of all? Why are we a talk attacking? Kind of trying to be messy. Yeah, that's really she's trying to carry the show So you didn't know Nordstrom rack gave awards like when I watch Roni, I'm just watching a bunch of friends hanging out I'm having a good time I'm still kind of interested

as to why we casted Rebecca though, because she really doesn't give anything, like no disrespect to her, but she doesn't really add to any episodes and has like maybe like a one line moment or like one scene. But in fairness to her, like at least with Brittany, she walks into this group of women

who are like willing and able to be messy. And it's just like, you're expecting Rebecca to come in with this classy, unproblematic group and be like chaos. Well, that's the part too of like a personality. Brittany's getting paid front contract carrying a season of a storyline versus Rebecca's getting paid front contract making one offs. Doing nothing. I mean, she does something for me.

She's like in the background. That's kind of my point where I'm like, if she doesn't get asked back next season, I wouldn't be surprised. But she's fitting in with the group. This is my of my point where I'm like, if she doesn't get asked back next season, I wouldn't be surprised. But she's fitting in with the group, is my point. There's gotta be more to it. Like part of me thinks that somewhere later in the season, she's gonna like address the Scientology and that's why they were like, we need that.

Yeah. Maybe it's just like the little like mid-season lull. We're not even mid-season yet. We're not even mid-season, babe. We're like six episodes. Yeah. I wanna like this show more than I do. I know, I know, same.

All right, well it is time for vibes versus stats, and then we got the incredible Jackie Tone. She is with us coming up shortly. All right, let's get into it. Here's why I thought Aaron Rodgers. Is he not a football player? He is. Yeah. Well done, Justin.

Vibes has broken my brain, vibes or stats. Okay, what do we got, Mare? This week, you know, I really enjoyed doing like the dance theme last week. So I wanted to lean more into themes. So this week, I really wanted to focus on like fan culture and the vibe match of this is going to be like which fan base you would want to like hang out

in tailgate with is what the vibe is. And I wanna start off with the Eagles versus the Cowboys. Okay. So this is a famously nasty fan matchup. They don't like each other. Their rivalry goes all the way back to the beginning in 1960. Their divisional rivals. The beginning of time.

The beginning of time, 1960. Basically Eagles fans have a chip on their shoulder because they're like the working class underdogs in Philly and the Cowboys fans are quote-unquote America's team and they think they're like better. They're definitely not. They're not. So yeah, so the Eagles hate that the Cowboys think this and then the Cowboys hate that the Eagles are mean. The Eagles are more blue collar. Yeah, it's very much like it's giving, you know. Blue collar.

It's giving class. Cowboy fans are a little arrogant. Yeah. So we have to, so us making a decision right now is like an elitism thing. I mean. We're choosing between like. Yeah, if you want to go for the common man, you go Eagles. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, so here are some Eagles fans. The Cowboys are the richest franchise in sports. Yes. This is Eagles. Not football, sports. These are richest franchise in sports. Yes. This is Eagles. Not football, sports. These are some- Sports, wow. Yeah.

This is giving broccoli. It is giving broccoli. So Eagles fans- No, it's giving the Grinch as a football fan. Grinch as well, yeah. Beetlejuice. Ooh, that looks dirty. Yeah.

So Eagles fans have been called the worst fan base in the NFL, but that's coming from outsiders. Again, they do have a courthouse in the stadium during games. They do. They've also been known to boo Santa, throw snowballs at opponents, have head coaches put bounties out

to encourage maiming other teams. Listen, I have issues with fanbases who fight nasty because as an Auburn fan, an Alabama fan, poisoned our like 100 and 100 and 100 year old oak tree and yeah a fan like literally poison it. Girl global warming exists we can't be doing that. Yeah dead-ass poisoned it the oak tree who had been alive and we rolled it with with toilet paper every time we won it killed the tree. Karma's a bitch. And he got arrested and like some famous Alabama guy bailed him out anyways.

So I have an issue with fans who behave badly and so I'm already like already against the Eagles. Okay but after losing the Super Bowl to the Chiefs in 2023, fans rioted in the show. Yeah. But cops did grease the poles on the street in Philly to keep people from climbing on them And then it didn't work see why are we giving why are we making the cops do more work like Reaching poles when they could be like fighting crime. Yeah fighting crime. They're greasing poles instead Yeah, these crazy fans. Well, I think that's like Philly culture like Philly knows that it's gonna Riot after a game. He's wearing wings and he's not flying, it's giving fake news next.

Okay. Well, Natalie clearly wants to go Cowboy. Okay, well let's talk about America's team. This is an old man with a helmet on, he's cute. According to the 2019 study, the Cowboys supposedly have the quote unquote best fans in the NFL, but this was done based off of fan equity, which focuses on how much fans are willing to spend on the team. So like oil money. Yeah. Bad on the team. So like oil money, bad for the environment.

So they're rich. So I don't know, it's kind of giving cops versus robbers. And this is the, they have the cheerleaders right? Cowboys have the cheerleaders. It's giving capitalism versus the Robin Hood. Yeah, this is the kind of back tattoos the Cowboys have. Yes, let's tattoo your own body, let's not tattoo the town. You know what I'm saying? So like love that he took that and did it to himself and is not pushing it on to other people. I feel like you don't think that's a little that's a little that's going to affect other people.

No, you don't think that's going to stop traffic. If somebody sees that, I think that could cause a car accident. Hopefully it keeps your shirt on. I don't think with a back tattoo like that you're giving your shirt on very much. I've seen the grown men of like the Cowboys fan base recreate the cheerleaders dances. So to me that's enough for me to be. They're dancing not attacking. But if the Eagles weren't so crazy Silver Linings playbook would have never been made.

That's right. That's true. So chaos breeds fun movies that won Oscars. Who won their last game, Eagle or Dallas? The Cowboys are in a slump. Okay, did we choose the score, did we choose the fan base? Well, we're Vibes, we don't go off of stats, we go off of Vibes.

So I think we go off of the fact that, yeah, Dallas. What about you, Nick? I just want the Vibes group to note Mary's objection. She's riding hard for the Eagles. I hate the Cowboys. You can jump. I hate the Cowboys. I'm gonna go eagles. I'm gonna go eagles. Okay. Okay. What do we got game two? Game two we have the Vikings

versus the Jaguars. So the Vikings they call themselves Skull Nation. Um, lots of horns. A horny group. Just a bunch of tobacco chewing Lots of horns a horny group just a bunch of tobacco chewing Mongrels. Yeah, I will say everyone I know that's from Minnesota is very very cool and kind. That is true Yeah, you know, it's a pleasant group, but I just their football team I can't I just the color schemes the idea we talked about purple purple is not a good color Yeah, giving Thor meets the Lorax. Yeah, the Thor app. But also Bob Dylan, Prince, all from Minnesota.

So, and Prince makes purple cool. I mean, let's be real though, and then the Jaguars, they barely even have a fan base. Like, as someone from Florida, I have never met a Jaguars fan in my entire life Like that's why they're probably gonna be the first London team. Yeah Jackson Jackson they're gonna move to London. I'm not even sure Jacksonville is real. It is real. It's like two hours from Savannah And I know my sister It is a very

It's kind of like a ghost town like Like you drive through and you're like, do people like live here? Yeah. Like is it like, Jacksonville is a very, I mean, in the way that Florida is insane, Jacksonville makes no sense to me. Cause it's like North Florida, which is hard for me to conceptualize.

It's like if it be in Florida, you might as well be near water. Jacksonville is near water. Is it? Yeah. Wait, I am curious though. So you said- In the North though. You said that they're going to leave to London?

Yeah. Well that's a lot of speculation. They haven't played games? The NFL is trying to expand globally. They've played a lot of games in London. And then that would count for the Super Bowl? Yeah. They may play at the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I could see the Super Bowl. Yeah, the Super Bowl will definitely one day be in London for sure. That looks like a man from London town. I mean the cat ears are cute. Yeah. Honestly, I don't love Cheetah Print. Well, Cheetah Print is back. I cheetah print. Well cheetah print is back I was gonna say. Cheetah print over the thorax. I just bought a cute maxi skirt so say nothing when I wear it

You know I mean this is a man that's like this is a man that's confident with who he is. This is yellow cheetah print. Agreed. So not yellow cheetah print. Yeah purple face goldilocks. Yeah, he's got that barbed wire tattoo. Yeah, yeah chain mail Sierra you make the call. I do love the necklace of the that necklace is kind of serving in the name of the Auburn Oak tree Let's choose the thorax. So the Vikings. All right, I'll go Jaguars. Okay. All right Up next Jackie Tone Symbiotica is a supplement brand that we love, giving us access to a wide variety of different options.

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Welcome back to the show. Wait, you've been on before? She was one of my first guests ever. Ever. And you wanna hear such a fun story? Yeah. It's kind of fun, but it's kind of, and obviously Nick already knows this.

My friend texted me and was like, do you wanna be on this podcast? I was on Glow at the time and I was like, sure, I didn't look up Nick. I didn't look up the podcast. I didn't look up anything, idiot. No, I did the same before I met him. Had I looked him up, I would have been like, sure,

but I didn't look him up or anything. And she texted me beforehand like, oh, do you want to like, they have a segment where they talk about The Bachelor up top, do you want to do that? And I wrote back like, in no universe, do I want to talk about The Bachelor up top, do you wanna do that? And I wrote back like, in no universe do I wanna talk about The Bachelor, da da da. I gave some sort of very boring, snarky,

hot takes about The Bachelor, and then she was like, okay, no stress, like all good. And then Nick and I were texting about coming on and he, I guess, didn't get that message from her. And he was like, so did you wanna be part of like The Bachelor segment or whatever? And I just copy pasted. And it was then I learned Nick was a bachelor.

But I don't take myself that seriously. No, you're an angel about it. I'll tell you something. I have told that story, but because I don't get embarrassed, it's not a thing I feel generally. Honestly, same. I felt fucking embarrassed.

I was like, we're so lovely, dude. I don't, what? And you came for him. Just do your research. And when someone who was on a show, I just don't, what? And you came for him. Just do your research. And when someone who was on a show, just don't be an idiot. And in that instance, I was a class A. Clown. Clown.

I thought we had a great show. We had a great show. Despite my idiocy right before we started. I mean, I could probably find that text. It was like, I went in on The Bachelor. You were like, and that one from that one season, what season were you on? He fucking sucked.

The one who was runner up twice. Yeah, fuck that guy. Wish didn't, and that one from that one season. What season were you on? He fucking sucked. The one who was runner up twice. Yeah, fuck that guy. Wish didn't even watch enough to have even said that. But now. You do watch. No way. Well, I watched Golden.

And I watched Bachelorette. Was that you studying for your character? Because everyone on that show's a big reality TV fan. A big reality TV fan. I wish it was, it wasn't. I just years later got into it. I had a boyfriend at the time whose whole family was into it and it became so fun for it to be a family

affair and everybody like hop on a FaceTime group call after and be like, can you fucking believe? Wow, that is awesome. Well, I just want to say thank you for helping me make this show. You were a big part of it. Oh, that's crazy and you lie. But this place is so nice.

This upgrade, I'm sure it's been years. We've come a long way. Dude, it's fabulous. How has the success of the new show been for you? Crazy. She's everywhere. So good. I can't, I just shut down my throat.

Well, it's been answered. It's been answered, honestly, in my dreams. In my actual dreams. Yeah, I'm swallowing, sorry. Well, YB, we did it. We're engaged. It's been so cool and so exciting. I've never been part of something

that would be called a cultural juggernaut before, as this is being called all the time. And it's crazy, man. It's so cool. And like, yeah, it's really cool. It's definitely a different level for me. It's like, uh, it feels cool. I feel it. I feel the difference as a person being on this show and being out in the world. I feel the difference.

It's kind of crazy. You're Jewish, right? I feel like you did not have to act at all in that. Like, I feel like this person sitting here today was that person I watched in the show. That's right, my queen. And the only difference between our personalities, because they're both like very mouthy and opinionated and Jewish and strong,

I wouldn't do, I was just gonna say, I wouldn't do most of what she does. Cut to me texting Nick about how the bachelor is fucking for Mark Loser pieces of shit. Like I went in, but I was doing it in a joking way. I mean, listen, I've gotten tougher feedback. Apparently people said he looked like a serial killer. Yeah, yeah, that was something.

That is one hot fucking serial killer. Cheers, Queen. Let's go. Kind of giving Jeff Dom. Oh. Jeff Dom wishes. I am from Milwaukee. Jeff Dom wishes.

Jeff Dom could never. No, but like, how can I say this? The show is- Am I the third I say this? The show is. Am I the third host of this? This is cool. I think so, join in. The show is just like shockingly good. And not shocking, like I just feel like most of the shows

that like specifically like drops the rom-coms, it's always like kind of cute and fine and nice and like whatever, but like we turned it on after the craze. We're like, all right, we'll give it a shot. And it was just like, that was so fucking good. We're laughing out loud the whole way. We're binging through. We finished it like in a day and a half. It is such a, we're like, all right, we'll give it a shot. And it was just like, that was so fucking good. We're laughing out loud the hallway, we're binging through, we finished it like in a day and a half.

It is such a nice feeling when like, cause I'm a similar TV watcher where I'm like, okay, I'll begrudgingly get on board with what every single person has told me to watch. And I'm often like, I mean, I get it. It's like, it's not with this show, especially it often like, I mean, I get it. You know, it's like, it's not with this show, especially it's like, there's too many demos that are loving it.

It's really like, I'm sort of hesitant. I keep catching myself, because like, I guess it's weird to be on the thing and be like, I know, right? But that's how I feel kind of, it's crazy. Did you, when you guys were making it, where you're like, this is really good material, or you're like, we'll see, I don't know.

That, absolutely the second one. Absolutely the second one, because it was a first season show. They had started the writers room before the strike. I didn't even audition, and I'm close with Kristin, and so I knew that she was working on this thing. But like, you know, it just in talks. Like everyone in LA is like in talks forever.

And then like so much of the stuff doesn't come out or comes out and just sort of comes and goes. And so then the whole strike happened, multiple strikes. And then finally, at the very end of the year, when nothing else was happening, because they were like, let's just let the year die and start everything next year, this show picked back up. And they were like, no, we're doing it. We're casting it. So I was like, ha, ba, ba, ba. And so the time was crazy. And then while we were doing it, it was great and everyone loved each other. But you're never, you got, it's

so dangerous to work on a show and be looking at your castmates going, we got it, bro. This is it. It's like, not only is it dangerous, you wouldn't do that. You're not in that head space because you're in the minutia of like, I don't know about that line. Would my character do that? As it was, you know, you're so in it.

And then it comes out and you're like, oh, goodness gracious. Did you ultimately audition for Sister-in-Law? I did, but they initially wanted me to audition. I just got from my agent, I just got this audition for the Rebecca role, the Adams Noah's ex. And then I was on a hike with Kristin one day,

I was about to make my tape and I was like, oh, I got an audition, cause you never want to make it weird and be like, hi, I would love my health insurance this year. So it was like, that's where I was at. Like after GLOW 2021, I lost my health insurance. I was like on a hitch. It's like this business is crazy. I love Glow by the way. Thank you.

Loved it. Thank you so much. I want to get back to that because I have a thought about it I want to share. But, this is fun. That with nobody wants it. With Kristin, I was like, I have an audition for your show for the ex-girlfriend. And she was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. She was like, I have an audition for your show for the ex-girlfriend. And she was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. She was like, if anything, you're like way more right for the sister-in-law, but they're not looking for like, typical New York Jews, they're looking for more

sort of West Coast Brentwood money Russian Jews. And I was like, well, I am who I am and hopefully they like that. And then was like, well, I am who I am, and hopefully they like that. And then, yeah, then I auditioned. I didn't find out for like a month, like five weeks. What were you doing for that five weeks? Honestly, it was like a Christmas Hanukkah vacation, and New Year's, and then like early in the year,

my manager was like asking me, he's like, you got to hear anything? And I was like, well, I'm not gonna. Is that your job? Well, yes, but of course, which he was trying to find out, but he wasn't hearing anything. So he was like trying to go, you know, around the corner. And I was like, no, dude, no, no, no, no.

You're like, and Kristen's not hiking with me anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what's happening. I got a text from her that says, I hate you, but I'm still optimistic. How does it work when you're friends with someone who's so involved in the show, but also being professional, you wanna like go through proper channels,

like how do you tiptoe around that? Basically, how I've just described, like we would kick it and like I would, neither of us would say anything. Like, or one time when I was at her house, her daughter was like, your tape was the best tape for, I saw, oh, am I allowed to say that, that her kids saw them?

Yeah, probably. But she just watched the like screen test or whatever. And she was like, Lincoln was like, I loved your audition. And I was like, thanks, Link, that means a lot to me. And then like nothing more. And then you're like, I shouldn't have what you think. But you know, yeah, hey, Kristen, Anne, tell me your name one more time.

I'm so sorry, I'm blanking. When I was, this is actually crazy, when we did Jennifer Hudson a couple weeks ago and I learned something, which is that Jennifer said to Kristen, like, so how did that work with Jackie? You know, did you basically, and Kristen was like, oh, I was completely hands off.

Like everyone knew all the tapes were coming in. Also you consider, I mean, how many friends and people she knows, she can't like just give her friends every part, that'd be whack. Cause every person at the top, Erin Foster could do the same thing. Well, I have someone for that, right?

This is all what it is. And so she sat on Jennifer Hudson that my role was one that she stepped back completely from. Everyone knew her opinion. She was like, well, I think it's Jackie, but there's the network, there's the studio, there's all the executives, there's the creative team. And they were like, you know where I stand and let's,

and so then they watched all the tapes and they did all the aud, there's the creative team. And they were like, you know where I stand and let's, and so then they watched all the tapes and they did all the auditions. And luckily all the other people were like, that's our Jew. That's right. What was your intro into Jennifer Hudson? Can't Touch This!

Wow. MC Hammer. I'm gonna do da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Was that you? This is so cute. Hammer time. What was our entrance when you came in? Oh, I think someone looked at me and was like, oh, the bathroom. Yeah, wrong door.

The bathroom is that way. And I was like, I'm not looking for the bathroom. I'm on Nick. They're like, excuse me, can we help you? Yeah. While you're here? And I was like, I'm on Nick's show. And they were like, no.

So that was my, it was nice though. Oh, thank God. But they were playing, my heart will go on on their cell phone, but I don't think that was for me. I think it's just what they were playing. You guys, not to take anything away from Kristen, but you guys kind of steal some of the scenes.

You and your TV husband. I won't tell her. Don't tell her, don't shh, don't tell her. You guys are very funny. Ah, I love it. It's such a joy. I mean, going back to that whole, I mean, I don't want to punch it in the face too many times,

but like, what a joy and a shock it is to be in this business for 30 something years. And then just you do something and people care. It's like you're on a show that you don't have to tell people to watch. They're just watching. It's like, this is novel. Wow. It's wacky.

It's so rare, especially with the like, this is a word I'm gonna teach you guys. It's gonna be added into Webster's 2025, the spread outedness. Ooh, I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The spread outedness of content right now and all the streamers and all the networks like, and things aren't on once a week.

So to have anything to talk, it's just like. Good things get lost in the shuffle. Yeah. I mean, always. I don't... I know like three other people that watch Severance. I think it's one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Four, you know, five, four. We can have a watch party, Jackie. We were actually looking for it. When does it come out? Because we were like... It's soon.

Yeah, it's soon. I think even January, maybe, but I have to check. Severance Season Two is coming out soon. But you're right. It's like kind of niche, you know? Like most people... It is staggering. January maybe, but I have to check. Severance season two is coming out soon. But you're right, it's like kind of niche, you know? Like most people, it is staggering. I can't wait to rewatch season one so I can be prepared for season two, but it's like, it's wild.

And that's the other thing with Nobody Wants This, we got picked up too, too weak. Like immediately, yeah. Instantly. No, those numbers must have been huge. On GLOW, they used to always pretend we were on the bubble. And then we found out after the numbers came out that like 19 million people watched Glow,

but they were like, we just don't have the numbers. We don't know if we're gonna do another season. But I don't know what the bit was, but then that's why I was ready with nobody wants us for there to be like, okay, we're gonna wait six months and then they're gonna tell us maybe and then it's gonna be.

No, they fit it into the end of the season. Yeah, it's insane. Are you getting noticed more? I am. It's really interesting. I used to always, like when, for other things, people would be like, are you on that show? And I'd be like, oh yeah, hey, what's up?

But this I'm getting like, are you Jackie Tones? Which is my first, this is my first are you Jackie Tones? Which is so- What do you say usually? I go, no, no, not a fan. Not a fan. She seems like she might be grating. I haven't met her in person, but it seems like there's something grating going on

that I wouldn't love. But yeah, it's so cool and fun. I mean, the famous people that can't go places, that's never been the goal. I didn't ever wanted that and I don't want that now. Like are you headed to Craig's? Do you know about Craig's? My Craig story?

No, what is your best story? Oh, that's why I thought you asked. No. This is such, you're like setting me, you're like late night setting me up. Like when Jay Leno's like, I heard this one story. And it's like, you're doing that, but without even having heard the story.

Sorry, Jay Leno. Okay, I live. He's fine. So years ago, my friend was like, do you want to come to Craig's? For those who don't know, Craig's is a very seedy restaurant in Los Angeles. Pop rocks, you will get packed.

People get packed. It's like living outside. It's like a steakhouse, right? Yeah. You always see a celebrity or two because they want to be seen. It is good food and it is a nice vibe, but a lot of people show up

for the pops to be seen. And what happened to me was similar to when I was on this podcast for the first time, I had no idea what Craig's was. And to me it sounded like, like the keep these like nebbish-y Jewish kids I went to elementary school with, like Craig, Craig Rosenthal.

I'm like, Craig's isn't a fancy, I don't know what that is. But my agent was like, you wanna go to dinner at Craig's? And I was like, okay. So I show up looking like someone's kid brother with greasy hair. I look like the derp. Okay. I go into Craig's, no one's looking for me. I go into Craig's, I see Jennifer Lopez and A-Rod at one table. That's what year this is. And then I see all of Maroon 5 at another table. And I'm like, okay, what is this place? This is obviously not Craig Rosenthal's restaurant from elementary school. Don't think he went into the restaurant business. And I'm like, this is fucking crazy. And then as I'm leaving, oh, before I leave, I'm like,

oh, yes, I will take my vegan chicken parm to go. And my agent was like, oh, I got this and I got this and pasta, something else. He was like, I'm not taking mine. I'm like, I'll take yours. I took my agents, my agent's dads and mine, and they had this incredible vegan ice cream. So I was like, I think I could eat it on the way home. I'm not starving yet. Four Craig's to go bags. Oh my God.

Cause I don't give a, what do I, this is fancy food, I want it. Is there a paparazzi picture of you? There's about 20 of them. Can we look this up? So the first time I ever got papped was walking out of Craig's. You look like a hoarder.

With five, I look like a, I look, God bless, I look like a hoarder. There it is, there it is, there it is! Your face, you're like, ah, no! Okay, first of all, you look great. But let me tell you the reason why it's two bags. There's a bag in each bag of like a separate, it was four bags and I consolidated. bag in each bag of like a separate,

it was four bags and I consolidated. Wow. Yeah, you look shocked. I look great. You look nice outfit though. You do look really hot. You guys are so full of shit. I have no makeup on, my bangs are greasy.

I love a jean, you know, jacket. Yeah, I love a. Yeah, I love them. I love a denim. Oh! What was your initial? Look at that one, I've never seen that one. denim. Oh! Or were you, what was your initial? Look at that one! I've never seen that one! You're like, aw, shucks.

What, what, what, what, did you say anything? Is there a video maybe where you're like? Of course, my mouth is open. I always say something. My mouth is open in every single, fuck, you could not. You could not. My mouth is open in every photo because I'm going, oh, no, why, oh, and then finally I went. Like, I just submitted and like smiled and was like, come on.

Wow, you really loved the food, didn't you, doggy? I was like, honestly, I did, not even that. I just was like, free food, I'm taking it home. I love a leftover. Are you vegan? I'm not, I'm pescatarian. But I don't eat like red meat or chicken. Those guys are all my pretty good friends,

so I don't really, am I interested in that? Because I have my pretty good friends. So I don't really, I'm not interested in that because I have a dog named Glen and every animal is Glen, it turned out. Yeah, I've seen some fricking chickens that are Glen. Yeah, in my heart, everyone's Glen. We have dogs named Jeff and Steve. Jeff and Steve. It's such cute names and they're so delicious.

Glen is the best rat that's ever walked the face of the earth. Here he is now. Can I see Glen? Here he is now. Wow. Does his breath smell good? Yeah, I think you're being mean and I think you're being pointed. Glenn is the best rat that's ever walked the face of the earth. Here he is now. Can I see Glenn? Here he is now. Wow. Does his breath smell good? Yeah, I think you're being mean

and I think you're being pointed. And I think that- This is a good question. Does your dog's breath smell good? No, awful. It's awful. Glenn's birth father is one of my best friends, Jacob. And when I was shooting, when I first got Glenn,

Jake lived up the street and so he would be like his dad. It was the greatest. And he would text me things that Glenn smelled like. Oh, no. And one of my favorites, there's a couple favorites, but he'd be like, loving having my son here. He does, however, smell like a thrift store that was only donated coats people died in.

Yes. And then I would get another text from him that's like, oh my God, he's so cute. He does smell like fish tank rocks, but I absolutely adore having him here. Can we put a perfume on him or something? Is there like a shampoo maybe? He is a delicate, thank you.

He is a delicate rat and we gave him like a smelly conditioner once out of grooming and like his fucking skin fell off. It was like, yeah. And then now we have to give him like doctor prescribed soap. Oh my God. Yeah. So could you imagine?

He's a high maintenance. He is, but he's also like kind of the easiest, nicest dog. He's silent. Does he sleep in your bed? Yeah, next to me curled, curled of a croissant, tiny. Oh my God. Jeff sleeps on my head.

Shh. Steve's in a kennel though. It's because he's only in a kennel because he's so bad. He's very naughty. Yeah, kennels are okay. He's opening up drawers and ripping things to shreds. Steve ate through his first two kennels? Yes, he did.

So we had to get a medal one. Yes. We had to put him in jail. Actually, after I had my baby who was nine months old, that like weeks after. You had a baby nine months ago? I did, weeks after. Not for you.

Yeah. No, I'm happy about your bounce back. I don't wanna kill myself. I am 25. I think it's. Oh my God, I'm 26. Sorry. Sorry.

Are you actually 26? I am actually 26. And you had a baby. I want you to see a picture. Is it boy or girl? Oh my God, a girl. She's absolutely delicious. You're gonna die.

Let me ask you something. Look at her. Look at her right now. No, I know. I know you weren't ready for that. You actually were not ready for that. That me ask you something. Look at her. Look at her right now. Let me. No, I know. I know you weren't ready for that. You actually were not ready for that. That's Ashley.

That's Ashley, sweet angel baby for Halloween. Look at her, look at her. She was, oh, you wanna see her for Halloween? Yeah, of course. What do you think this is? No, you're right. Why do you think I came here today? You're right.

You're right. All my kids are frozen in a cryo lab in Encino. Shut up. I know. You freaking put her in this costume with those freaking brown socks, tight on her calves. It was like she came out of the dirt,

like you plucked her from the dirt. She's a strawberry. And should I, and I shouldn't throw the phone or I shouldn't put it under my shoe and squinch it because it makes me angry? No. Okay. You can eat it though.

Oh, what's her name? River. This is rude. Are there people at home mad at us right now? Are they like, fucking who cares about your kid? Cause I do. They love our kids. Okay, good.

Cause you know how some people are like, everyone talks about their babies. I'm this, I want a baby so bad that all I want to do is look at these socks and the way that they're too tight on her calves. Okay, you don't have to say they're too tight. You don't have to be like, people are gonna like,

mom shame you for like putting like too tight of like socks. Oh, those people can fuck all the way off. We're talking about like how babies like, their wrists've rolls and like they look like there's a rubber band What is crazy though? Britney Spears posted a video and said I am River Rose and that is our daughter's name the other day and people were like Britney did change her name. Yeah her Instagram bio to River Rose. It's longer than that. Let me pull it up. Yeah It's mine too and my husband is allergic to it that's not true Let me pull it up. Yeah. No, no, no. I love it. Physical touch is my dream. Physical touch is my dream. Physical touch is my dream. It's mine too and my husband is allergic to it.

That's not true. It's just like. He's like, I'm smothered. I just can't. You're too close. My boyfriend's not that into it either. He's not against it. Yeah, but when you jump on me and then.

Oh, I wanna be in. If I could be inside. You wanna wear a skin suit. Yes. You wanna wear Nick's skin suit. I do. I can't. I understand.

I understand. I want it. I tell my. I'm. I can't, I understand. Thank God, someone like me. I understand. I wanna, I tell my- I'm claustrophobic. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, you're a good time, huh? Yeah. Sometimes I wake up in-

No, I'm not. Sometimes I wake up in the morning and I tell my boyfriend the ways that as I was falling asleep, the ways I thought about how I could kill him in his sleep, cause of cute. Yes. Yeah, I'm like, what if I punt you

by the rib cage to the moon? What if I wallowed you whole? Correct. Yes. It's like I bite my teeth and I grind. Me too, I grind. It's too much. Oh, I feel the same way.

Did you see River Rose on Britney Spears' account? Did you see that? I didn't, but I see her name is Zyla Marie River Red. River Red? No, she goes- Zyla Marie? No, no, no. Isn't that Grimes' kid's name, where it's just fucking letters?

Yeah, I feel like she went to a website. What a headache. And like, Googled and put her. She's like, ZylaMarieRiverRed.com. She said, my name is River Rose, nice to meet you. Oh, so she has multiple names now. You know, I don't approve of the conservatorship, obviously. This is a woman that I am worried about.

I mean, not as worried for her as I am for the rest of the country, but really, like it's the knife dancing and the whole thing. It's so concerning. What if she's trolling us? You know what it's, no, no, no, you know what's crazy? Oh, that would be so sick. You know what's crazy?

That would be so sick. You wanna hear what's crazy? Do you know who Kristin Cavallari is? It's okay, you don't have to answer. Yes. You do, great, amazing. So she said on her podcast, she thinks Britney Spears is a clone. And then Britney Spears wanted her number

and Britney Spears texted her and said, I'm not a clone. Really? I didn't see the actual text and I didn't listen to the podcast. I saw her talk about it in like a clip and it was like, listen to the episode to hear the actual text.

But it was, she said that the text was giving like- Quick, say something about Britney Spears. Britney Spears is a clone. Well, something- Britney Spears, you're not River Rose. Ooh, yes. Britney Spears doesn't know magic. Prove it to Britney Spears.

Britney's name is not Xylitol Splenda Marie. Britney Spears' name is not Stevia Trovia Gillespie. She's gonna fucking call me as I leave here. Yes, my name is Stevia Truvia Gillespie. Can you put on speaker on your way out? She's fucking knives. Yeah, I worry about her. I know, and I do too.

But now I am- Doesn't keep me up at night. I can't lie to you, but you know- What does keep you up at night? Oh, very little. I get so tired. Do you? Oh, do I get tired?

I get so tired. I just, I'm such an ADHD energizer bunny the whole day. And I'm realizing now in my forties, like when I was a kid, people were like, oh, she's always on, huh? And it's like, you think it's exhausting? Imagine living in my fucking head. You can go home.

This is what it always is. So by the time the night- That's how I feel. Yeah, so by the time the night happens, I'm like, oh, it's seven already? Lights out. Do you just close your eyes and go to sleep dark room or TV book, what are we doing? Anything?

Oh, I love this question because the answer is so embarrassing and I love saying embarrassing things and it's that I wear an eye mask, earplugs and a night guard. La la la la. Natalie's reading. I'm reading a sex book, an erotic thriller. Are you?

I am and it's- Does it turn you on right before bed? In bed next to me. No, no, no, I only start reading it once. I'm reading a murder book, The Silent Patient. I'm reading that. And then when Nick rolls over and goes to bed, I switch immediately to my erotic thriller.

Why? Tell me more. That's kind of like me watching porn next to you in bed when you go to bed. Well, I wouldn't, I'm not, it's not visual. It is not visual. Where'd you guys meet? I'm sure you've said it on the pod a hundred times. Did you actually? Yeah, it's not visual. It's only in my head. It's not visual. Where'd you guys meet? I'm sure you've said it on the pod a hundred times.

Did you actually? Yeah, I did. I did. I was just a normal girl living in Georgia and I was like, this guy's kind of hot. Like, hey. Kind of, could you imagine? No, I know.

Let me ask you this. What was your job in Georgia? I was surgical technologist. What's your job here? Well, I still am a surgical technologist. Are you actually? Yes, I am. What does that involve?

Is it a work from home? Assisting surgeons in the operating room. No, it is an in surgery operating room. Scalpel, here you go. You're fucking lying to me. Stitching things up, holding things open, assisting the surgeon. Would you like to continue doing that

or would you like to be a television personality who's very hot and smart? Oh my God. Am I hot and smart as a surgical technologist too or am I ugly and dumb? Of course. I'm just, no, yeah, you're fucking useless. This one doctor you work with told me he asked for a scalpel and you handed him a spatula.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck, okay. It was a nightmare. Fuck. Is there a world where I can do both or no? I don't think so. I don't think we're going back into surgical tech-nil- She did it. Technolitions.

Two weeks ago. I did. Wait a minute, this is like a one-off? No, no, no, no, no. Well, before she got pregnant, she was working full-time. I was working full-time. And then her surgeon loves her. She's regular at her job.

Who wouldn't? And so he keeps sexing her when she can come back, when she can come back. And so like she has a day. And now it's like a whenever. And she's like, you know, he takes her when she can. He can get her, yeah, wow. It's like someone's sick or someone goes on vacation,

like I'm the call, which is great. But are you planning on, I mean, whatever. No. Okay. I just find you to be a very shiny person and I find that to be an infant child. You know what I'm saying? And I find that to be, and I'm not throwing that around. Do you feel like your character on Nobody Wants This

needs a sister type of thing or no? Yeah, you're about as Jewish as me. I'm gonna. My socks. Are those Velcro shoes? You know it. They're Chloe. They're Chloe. Oh.

They're Kristin's. They're not mine. Oh my God. They're not mine. Does she know? Yeah. No, I took them from her house. She didn't know we went on a hike

and then she suddenly couldn't find her Chloe's. No, she has a couple of them and I was like, do you fuck with these Velcro ones? Can I borrow? And we do this thing where we call it keeping it in the family. So she's like, yeah, just don't get rid of them. But like, if I ever want them back or think of them,

like I'll borrow her cowboy. She was like worried you might give them to someone else? Yes, or well, this is actually kind of funny. So years ago, I used to have an eBay, oh God, I'm really saying all the things today. I used to have an eBay business called, oh God, it just was called Famous People Stuff and that's not easy to say out loud, okay?

You were selling Famous People Stuff. They knew, but yes, it wasn't like I was sneaking it. Yeah, stuff they don't need, it's a good business. It was a great, but this was before the real real and before there was like all this like amazing, this is truly like early 2000s. You were the innovator. I wasn't not.

And I was like, Kim K. I was like cleaning out famous people's closets and then selling their stuff online. Did you label it with their names? Like was it like somebody's? No, no, no, no, I was never allowed to do that but. Did you have to share the profits or did you? Yes, very much.

In fact, I only got like a small percentage, but a small percentage of like a clothes, I mean a Chanel bag or something at the time was like, that was my full job. And then, so I think she obviously doesn't have to say this anymore because I don't have a business and haven't for a long time, but it's like she also gives me so much clothes

and random hand-me-downs. She does it, they're called Bell-Me-Downs and she gives them to everybody she knows. And so when I'm the recipient of them, that's obviously, but she was like being very clear, they're like, these aren't bell-me-downs, like don't get rid of them. Right, right, right.

If you don't want them. This is like you can wear them for a few times, but if I want them back, give them back. Yeah, like sometimes she'll be like, do you have my gray trench? And I'm like, never saw it, don't know her name. Yeah, do you like deliberately not wear them over to her house now, you're hoping that she'll come.

Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? I used to do that. It's the move. When I wasn't a woman of means, I literally was like, oh, she gave me these Jordans. I'm not gonna wear them at the house. She'll be like, that's where those Jordans are.

Yes. But now it's like, you want those Velcro shoes back? Get the Velcro shoes back. How many times have you worn them since she gave them to you? So fucking many. Are you starting to get more free stuff now that you're super famous? It is such a joy. It is.

I think in Jewish the word is bachinim. My mom just taught it for me. And it means like for nothing. Like you're getting, and she'll go like, bachinim for no less. Like you got it for free no less." I got... This is actually funny. I got an All Saints jacket, because I went to an event of theirs, and then they dress you head to toe for the event.

This fit was so fire, I felt like a million bucks. And then Kristen wanted the jacket. And you had to get set. Well, of course. It's like, after all these years, another one from them? But like, of course, it's like, it's in the works. She was like, oh, can I take your All Saints jacket away for the weekend?

And I was like, of course, no. I will always write back, what have you ever done for me? And then I'll go drop it off. Is that like a rudder passage, if you have like a more famous friend that like, if they like something you're wearing, you kind of have to give it to them? Kind of, only because, I mean,

only if that famous friend has given you everything over the years. Like if you're just randomly friends with someone and they never, no. That would have been kind of hilarious. Be like, actually, I really like that shirt. Yeah, and you're just like, oh, probably taking it off. I will say, because I'm such a thrifter and a vintage picker, often she will spot something of mine

and I'll have to like decide. And then I'm like, okay, the light blue Mickey Mouse vintage sweatshirt that you literally can't get, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna give it to her. Yeah, I'm a real hero. Have you ever said no? I took something back once.

But in my defense, we were keeping them in the family and I didn't give them to her. And they were my fucking velvet multicolor Doc Martens that I bought at Patricia Field in 1995. Oh shit. She grabbed them and ran out of the house and didn't even say goodbye. I had a rocket shoes on and I just zoomed right out. Because she was, I was like, oh, I'd been thinking about those Docs.

And she was like, that kind of kills me, but you can take them back. I was like, great. Thank you. I will. But I fuck with them and I wear them all the time. Oh my gosh. You know who someone I wanna meet? Your mom.

Right? She is amazing. The best, she is not to be believed. She's the cool, she's really like the funniest cool person. Is she in New York? She's in Florida now, cause my parents got, oh my God, how horrible. Rebel.

Wow, that's really disgusting. They live in Florida, because it's nice and warm down there and they're in like a 55 and over community and they're the cutest and they love it. And they were in New York, like what were they gonna continue to shovel the driveway? Like they're all. How often do you visit?

To Florida, I go, honestly, what's funny is I realized that the only reason I was ever going to New York was for them, and so now I just go to Florida. And they're really cute, they do like, Teatro, which is the Bellagio 55 and over community developments musical theater cabaret stop. And it's called like Theater Works. And they had to change the name from Teatro

because people didn't know, they didn't know that that was theater in Italian. Because also the old Jews, they're like, Teatro. It's like, okay, well, when you say it like that, I don't understand. We added a couple of letters in there. Yeah, a couple of vowels, maybe a C-H. I thought a Y.

Yeah, yeah, honestly, a couple Y. But they do the shows. Last year, my mom was in Chicago and they did the like, he had it coming. And they, and they, it's called Black Tango. And they like all the old, the old, the ladies came out with their like little own jail. So I'll show you the video.

It was beyond. And the part where the woman speaks in Hungarian about how she got caught, my mom did that part. But in Yiddish. I love it. Stop. It's a jack of all trades. A jack of all trades.

Truly. Jack of all trades. What's dad doing these days? Dad's the best. Dad's in multiple singing groups. Dad taught me how to, of course, he's in his group with his friends that called Old Things New, but his friends live in Pennsylvania

and so he doesn't see them as much. Aw. But his best friend, Gene Miner, was his student at Springfield Gardens in Brooklyn. Is he a musical kind of guy? In the 70s. Gene Miner. Honestly, isn't that amazing? He is, but it's just a lucky name. was his student at Springfield Gardens in Brooklyn. Was he a musical kind of guy? G minor? Honestly, isn't that amazing?

He is, but it's just a lucky name, but he's super musical. And then when Gene graduated, he and my dad ran back into each other many years later and started singing together. And now they are old men. And my dad was his teacher in Brooklyn. And now they-

The E teacher, right? Uh-huh. Wow. Yes, fucking research homework. Oh my God. So you love K. And now they- The E teacher, right? Uh-huh. Wow. Yes, fucking research homework. Oh my God. So you love PE. Both of my parents, excuse me. Both of my parents were gym teachers.

What? And I don't know how to kick, catch- Your parents were gym teachers? Gym teachers, they both were incredible athletes. My mom was like incredible. I don't know if she was like all state field hockey, but she was like a beast field hockey player. My dad played everything, coached all my brother's sports.

Both, my dad was the head of the phys ed department in Bushwick High School at like the height of when Bushwick was suck hairy, scary, scary. And it was like all the, it was one of the first schools in the country to have metal detectors, that kind of thing. So it was gnarly, but now Bushwick is like, you can't afford a one-bedroom. Yeah.

Wait, so your parents are both, like, artistically gifted, but they both were never, like, actors or singers? Well, my dad was a background singer in a band called, with these guys in a band called Veto and the Salutations in the 60s, and then he had his own band called the American Flyers. Love them. That was him. Stop.

Um, and I'm in love with you. And then he just kept singing, but then by the time me and my brothers were born, it was like, you know, he had a real job. He was like sending his songs to get copyrighted, you know, copyrighted at the copyright office and doing the whole thing my whole life. And he would always like get really affected,

brilliant piano player and singer and songwriter. And when any big thing would happen, like when I moved to LA, I'll send you guys the YouTube video, but he wrote a song, it's so Schmaltz and so Broadway, but called, Who Am I To Stop Your Dream? And it's a duet. Oh my God.

Cause who am I to stop your dream? And it's my dad singing, playing piano, we duet and we harmonize. Oh my God. Cause who am I to stop your dream? And it's my dad singing, playing piano, we do it and we harmonize. I died for him. And then my dad's now like grown into this man who's like, there's too much pepper in the soup. Like that's, he's a comment on everything that's ever been. Oh boy.

Oh, it's the greatest. Does this come with age? I will say as I get older, I get grumpier. Of course. Which is why it's so great to have a partner and I would also say a kid, because when left to our own devices, and when we're single and getting older,

it is so easy to get crotchety. If you don't have someone being like, it's all right. And not that your partner has to be like a fucking ray of sunshine every day, because that's a lot of heaviness to deal with those karmadjis. But it's like, it's just so nice to have someone to bounce off of,

because you can see that you're being a certain way when there's someone else there. When you're alone, you're like, well, fuck this, this is, you know. Right before I got, right before I met Natalie, I think my friends were a little worried that I was. Were you single for a while? Yeah, seven, eight years.

Yeah, cobwebs. Yeah, I met Natalie and I just felt like, wow, he's just a little lighter on his feet. I really found out I was a real grumpy guy. Yes, but you can't tell because you're just there by yourself. I thought I was just being honest. I thought I was like.

I have the same thing where I'm like, I'm just being honest and it was like, okay, but do we need like, again, we come back to, did we need the bachelor text? We didn't need it. And I've aged out of that maybe behavior. Have you? No.

Did you see Dax was like so shocked by the way Kisten was, Kisten? That's cute. But when Kristen kissed? Yes. Dax was so shocked by the way Kisten kissed. He was, wasn't he? He was, he was so into it.

It's so cute. He was so into it. It's the cutest thing. He was like, I he? He was, he was so into it. It's so cute. He was so into it. It's the cutest thing. He was like, I'm watching it again. I'm watching it again. It's so, I remember- Like, because they're like, it's bad, but it was okay, because it wasn't wrong, but it's hot.

Yeah, but exactly. And it's like, also it's like, they're at work and both of them are obsessed with their partners. And so it's just like, it's just sweet and cute and a TV show. And I feel like we talked, cause did you see the Nicole Kidman's baby girl, her erotic thriller that she's in. And she was like, I'm so sick and tired of orgasming.

Like I just, yeah, anymore. Like I just need a break. What are we talking? What Nicole Kidman's newest movie that comes out on Christmas day is an erotic thriller called baby girl. And she was like, I have to take breaks because I get so tired of orgasming. There's a lot of sex scenes.

But she was like, but she wasn't real orgasming. I don't know that she implied that she was. How do you, and then I was like, Keith Urban is very much like if you would just tell me where the clit is, I could also do the end sex scene. I could of course. I mean, just make me a tiny treasure map. If you show me, just map it out for me. I'm gonna give you this Sharpie and a paper towel.

And I'm asking that you just... I thought we were acting. I don't know. I know. That's the... We did a sex scene on Glow, and it was the most... technical, calculated, least sexy. Like, after doing that... I mean, then there's like also the Chloe Seven years where there's like, was it that movie Brown Bunny

or something where there was like an actual blowjob. And so that's obviously a very different- It's called porn. It's called porn, honestly. And that's a very different story than like on glow, the amount of layers that were between our parts. Like there was nothing. And then the second they call cut, you're like in a robe and like disgusted by yourself

and your partner. It's like, it's not hot. You're not like, this is like school. So it's like, cause they, in some of these movies, they're showing like what, I mean, I'm like, is that your vagina? Maybe not. But it's like, there's just like thick layers of something

that's like right in front of your vagina. That's what's happening here. So a lot of things happen. So on the very bottom, there's something called a whale tail. And I believe it's like a thong that you wear. And it's a sticker. So you take the sticker off and then it's a V,

covers your bush, goes in between your legs, like kind of goes over your taint. And then there's another little sticker that goes like at the very bottom, bottom, bottom of your ass crack. So you just go like, boop. And so if you're standing in front of someone, you look, like for your butt, you look completely naked.

And from your front, only, you're completely naked, but your bush is covered by a nude colored sticker. And like this. You look like a Barbie doll. You look like a Barbie, totally. You're giving Barbie. And then for your actual physical coverage, then they cut a yoga mat into like that same shape

that I then like put between my legs. And I believe he had on something covering his junk. Excuse me, and then there was one other layer in between us. I can't remember what that was, but there was so many layers between us that it was like completely, and the yoga mat was one of those thickies. And so it was just like when he is grinding,

there's you feel nothing. Kind of a shame. It is kind of a shame, you're not kidding. No, but it was also like, you know, it's, there's the crew is, I mean, they keep it very light, but like the crew is there and everyone's. So when you take the sticker off, are we like ripping pubes out?

Like are we in pain? No, it goes above. Oh, thank God. It goes above, right. But also like I'm a girl, I'm all lasered now. But when I was a hair person, it goes above. Oh, thank God. It goes above, right. But also like I'm a girl, I'm all lasered now, but when I was a hair person, I was like waxing all the time

and people would be like, how do you do it? And I was like, I don't know if I have a high pain tolerance, but I was like, it's fine. Wasn't great, it wasn't a cake walk. It's either there or it's not. Right, I wasn't just like, yeah, I wasn't just like, oh, I love this, but I wasn't like, I could never do that again.

Do you feel like you like shared like some deep secrets with your waxer? Cause I feel like, oh, I love this, but I wasn't like, I could never do that again. Do you feel like you shared some deep secrets with your waxer? Because I feel like that's what I did. Oh my God. I mean, if the secrets are the shape and size of my asshole, then yes. Other than that, not especially, no. Were you kind of shocked when they were like,

turn over and spread your cheeks? Or were you like, all right? The first time. The first time. I was like, oh my God, butthole. Okay, cute. And it turns out it's the least painful part. Oh my god, some might say enjoyable.

Some might say. Some might say, did I not. Some might say, do it again. Oops, was I supposed to hate this? No hair in here. Oh, was I supposed to hate this, yes. Isn't your G-spot in your asshole? You might love it.

Or mine, yeah. Is it? Nope. Oh my god. Justin Speaks. Justin Speaks. From experience. Hello.

Can't tell a lie. You wanted to tell Justin something about GLOW. GLOW, yes. I was just talking to someone the other day and this is about that, not recycling of content, but the idea that GLOW was on. There's so many great shows and young people, because Glow stopped in 2020, this is almost five years ago, don't know it.

And I feel like... I was in high school. I feel like Gen Zers, is that you? I'm Gen Z, yeah. Like I feel like Gen Zers would love Glow, but it just wasn't on at that... Like I feel like these... Give it like five more years,

when people are looking for content and then someone's gonna go on TikTok and be like, -"You know what I just watched?" And then it's gonna have a whole new... Especially season three. ...trending back on Netflix or something. Yeah, because I did have this moment of like, oh, it's so different with streamers than it ever was with network because we, with network, feel like things get talked about longer,

maybe that's not true, I don't know. But maybe it's just the oversaturation of maybe that's not true, I don't know. But maybe it's just the oversaturation of content that it's like, well, the young people have this new shit to watch, they're not gonna like go back and watch this random show on Netflix from 2017 to 2020. But it's kind of, Suits kind of came back recently. Yeah, I'm like, how does Glow get,

I mean, I don't even really. Once the 80s fashion makes its like, recycle that's when Glow will like find its way. It's just interesting to me that it's like, how does glow get, I mean, I don't even really. Once the 80s fashion makes its like recycle, that's when glow will like pop up. It's just interesting to me that it's like, oh yeah, we don't, things just come and go. Like this is also so mega random, but I'm caffeinated. Like the random British dramas,

like cop dramas people suggest to me, when I tell you these motherfuckers can make a TV show, there's one called Broadchurch, It's done, been done for ages. But similar to this, where I'm like, someone suggested it. They were like, if you're really looking for something to watch, it was during COVID. This show is insane.

There's another one in England called Happy Valley. Bonkers, like two of the best shows I've ever seen. And they're just like these random cop dramas. I forget where I even found them at the time. Maybe they were streaming, maybe, but illegally. No. Like that Flixxer Peacock or somebody. They were somewhere when I was,

and I was like, it's just fascinating to me, I guess, that like these amazing, without being too dramatic, like these amazing works of art exist. And it's just like, well, you never heard of it. Which what makes nobody wants this that much cooler. This is exactly the point where it's like you've been doing this long enough and you're like, so this one hit?

Like, okay, I'm so down. When are you guys gonna pick up the cameras again? I think the writers room has been going for a minute now, like over a month, maybe more. And so I think February they're saying that will go broke. I don't know for sure. They haven't told me, but. Who do you think is funnier, Erin or Sarah?

Oh, I don't know. I actually don't know. You're trying to get her fired? They're both so, yeah. Oh. Yeah, like I would never say. No, no, no, of course not. If I had an opinion on that, I would never say it.

I mean, now you won't know if this is the truth, but the truth is they're both like, so sort of witty and funny and just, it's just like, it's not fair. And they're like gorgeous and like just, also like the fact that they're actually talented and smart, you're like, ugh. It's like even more annoying.

Come on. Yeah, I do have like a really dying, burning question. How did your parents feel when you went on American Idol? Were they like, hell fucking yeah? Or were they like, this is a disgrace? No. My parents are very much a hell yeah group of people. Love that about them.

I knew that about them. She went to see my finals. Yeah. I was in top 36, which was the only year there was ever a 36. Wait, so you're a reality TV star and a real star? I suppose so. I mean, I don't even know that I'm either. But for this instance, I'll say yes.

Um, it's so fucking cool. Idol was such a weird, charmed experience until it wasn't. Um, but yeah, that was like this really weird year where instead of picking 24, they were like changing the format. They added Cara Di Aguarte. So it was Simon Paula. Remember that whole thing, Randy? It was that decade or that era.

And then they added Cara and then they were just changing it up. And so they did a top 36 and then 24 people got eliminated immediately. And it went from 36 to 12. So many of us just got the hatchet. What was your audition song? Well, I initially tried out for not me and Barney. I went to Heidi Klum's Halloween party and walked the carpet. Yeah. And walked the carpet with Barney.

There we are. There I am. Look at me go. Wow. Oh my God. Dordens. Were those? No, those are actually mine. For what it's worth, I got hurt. So what was yours? My American Idol experience was so interesting and bizarre, but it was fun. Would you do it again?

No, she's a real star now. Well, obviously, but if they were like, oh, like an all star, like. No, like I think if they're. You and Carrie Underwood back. That's right, that's it. And Kelly. And she would, both of them would wipe the floor with me.

I'm a very different singer. Those girls are like, yeah, I'm more of a style singer than like those girls are, I mean, I could sing, but those girls are like two of the best, idol or not. They're just machines, unbelievable. But yeah, it was cool, but that top 36 fucked us because not to, you can never say, but if I was gonna, if there was a 24 and then it was like two off per week, I would have, I have very, in very good faith feel I would have made the top 24

and then I wouldn't have been gone so quickly. So it was such a weird thing. They were just like, sayonara 24 of you. And like for what? Like, I don't know. Yeah, well, slash some other time. No, well I'll get there. And so then I guess I was like,

I'll get quote unquote against the rules. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Was smithers, I hear. No, well, I'll get to it. And I would have been the same. And so then I guess I was like, oh, get quote unquote against the rules. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Was this in Simon's like nice era? No, when was Simon ever nice? Well, I think he's kind of entering his nice one and people are like, fuck you. Oh, he is nice now?

Oh, that's so funny. He is so boring, yeah. No, he was a complete. Dude, was there something that stuck out that he said to you, maybe like? Well, I think one of the major reasons I got eliminated was because he just like ripped me to shreds after that. What was really weird is, it was so charmed that I was like,

is this what reality TV is? Like, everyone was cool with me, everyone was lovely with me. Paula went on late night and Jay Leno, speaking of the devil, asked her, I haven't said the name Jay Leno in about 12 years, I've said it twice in the last 45 minutes, Jay Leno was like, so, what was your favorite? And she just was like, I can't say. And then 45 minutes. Jaylenna was like, "'So, what was your favorite?' And she just was like,

"'I can't say.'" And then looked at the camera and was like, "'It's Jackie Tone.'" So I remember being like, "'I'm about to win American Idol.'" Then the top 36 enters, and they sort of made me sing the song that I sang, which was Little S Conversation by Elvis Presley,

which I had never heard in my life. But at the time that- They were setting you up. That Fat Boy Slim version of Little S Conversation, it was like a DJ remix, was a hit. And then somebody years ago had like won with the song and they were like, you're high energy, we want you to put on a show.

And I was like, can I play my guitar and do like- This is before they let you use instruments. And they were like, there was so much, like obviously it's never rigged, cause that's illegal and they would never fuck with that, but there was so much producing that at like borderline, it was what it was. It was like.

Like it's not rigged, but they do what they want. And they picked my song, like I didn't pick that song. I mean, I had to agree to it at some point and then learn it, but the songs on my list were like. Poggaful of Sunshine. You know, Pocketful of Sunshine or other songs by Lit. What's that name of that band? Pocketful of Sunshine band?

Lim? Lem. I was thinking Colby Hele. Oh, it wasn't that. Lem. Len, isn't it? Len. Okay, but what's that song?

Walking on Sunshine? No. If only you had a computer one millimeter from the tips of your fingers. Who's, I've never even heard of Lynn. Well, cause you're 19. L-Y-N-N, like a Lynn? No.

26. L-E-N-C. Still my sunshine. Still my sunshine. Still my sunshine. Still my sunshine. Still my sunshine. It's a good song.

Oh, it's fine. I mean, it was a hit and it was fine, but it was like, the songs I put on my list were like, you got me begging you for mercy. Yeah. And like Amy Winehouse, and like Carole King, and Aerosmith, and Pink, and they didn't approve any of them, none.

They were like, we can't get these approved. And it's like, you can't? And then like this girl a week later did my whole song. I was like, wait, did I write her song list? You know, I was like, weird, it was weird. But- You know what they thought? They were just like, this person's actually, she song list? You know, I was like, weird, it was weird. But- You know what they thought, they were just like, this person's actually, she's gonna be a real,

there's a different path for her. You could have been pigeonholed as a reality TV star, you wouldn't have wanted that. It's true, and you know what's really interesting? The number of people I met on American Idol who have come back later in my life and affected my life or changed my life for the better is actually a large number.

Like, there's a guy named Toby Gorman, who was a segment producer on American Idol. I mean, he wasn't a high level guy. And I went to take a meeting over at the Magical Elves, which is best in class reality production company, created Top Chef, Project Runway, they're beasts, they're amazing. And I had a meeting over there.

Apparently, Netflix was doing a cooking show called Best Leftovers Ever, by the way, full circle. Those Craig's pictures genuinely maybe got me the job. Because I was like, you have your other comics coming and claiming they like leftovers, let me introduce you to my Getty images of my greasy bangs. So I go into this meeting at Magical Elves

for this thing, they were looking for like a woman who was on Netflix, who was a comic. Those were the three things. And so they made a list and I came in and I walk in the room and this guy like jokingly introduces himself to me, I try and place him, put him right away. He was this guy, Toby Gorman.

He's now running the magical elves. And he was like, I wanted to meet you first on this because I remember when you were on Idol, we all thought to ourselves, I mean, it's weird to say out loud, but this is what he said. He was like, this girl's a star, but what are we gonna do with her here?

Oh my God. Like what are we gonna do with this personality and this person on America? Like it's like, this isn't really it for her. And he was like, and then I watched you get glow and I was like, she's fucking doing, I've chills. Then he's like, she's fucking doing it. And then I went into Magical Elves and he was like,

dude, we want you to do this show, like let's go. And now he's like the head of alternative programming at NBC and he's like, yeah, he's a big guy. And he's a wonderful person, but like he was this guy from England doing some segment producing with the contestants on American Idol in 2008. That's why people say be nice to everyone because one day they could be your boss.

People change jobs, don't burn bridges, play long game. That's a crazy, yeah. So much full circle stuff for me and so much weird Idol stuff came back around. It's weird. And not winning. Do you want to take your shoe off? To your point. No. What size are they?

I want to play with the soul. Seven. What size are you? Eight. Oh yeah, no, these are seven. Are you sure? What, do you want to try? Well, I mean.

I mean, you can try. You're going to stretch. Don't stretch them. No, no, no, I don't want to stretch them. She's got huge feet. I was going to say, there's nothing worse, like for a girl to say to another girl. Where it's like, you can try on my sweater, don't stretch it.

You're like, what the fuck did you just say? No, literally, I'm huge. Yeah, it's like you're debating nine months ago, you look like an absolute smoke show. Well, I think the pressures for women to get back into shape after babies is so terrifying. We got married three months after she had a baby. Two months, thank you.

And yeah, that was the pressure for me. Are you breastfeeding? I was, and my milk dried up at four months. Heartbreaking, it was. Okay. Yeah, but it's okay. We got through it. You did what you could. Now we're formula, baby. So at the end of the day,

she'll eat the goldfish off the car floor, so it'll be fine. So will Glenn. Yeah. Oh, my Glenn. I knew Glenn was that kind of guy. Glenn, you could offer Glenn any old thing and he'll eat it. Does he have all his teeth? That's a really, you've been asking so many cute questions.

Not only does he not have all his teeth, but I'll be pulling my phone back out to show you the one remaining tooth he has left. Oh, one? The one remaining tooth he has left in his head. But if I can tell you something, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, okay, I have to go into my favorites so we can delete all this, but it'll be worth it.

And do you wanna know why? Because his remaining tooth is shaped like Michigan. No way. Yes it is. Yes it is. It's a little fricking fingerless glove shaped of that. And when you see it, you're gonna fricking heart explode. Oh my God, hurry up.

I can, oh. You have to come faster. You can't. Fuck, fuck come faster. You can't. Fuck, fuck, fuck. You can't. Shut. Are you serious? Nick, take the phone. Nick, take the phone.

Do we need to send? That's exactly Michigan. It's Michigan. Well, I'll tell you, or like a really cute tiny ornament of a T-shirt. Oh yeah. Or a baby T-shirt or a fingerless glove. A glove, yes.

Do we need to send it to you so you can put it on the thing? I mean, people need to see. You must be kidding. No, no, no, I might cry. I said, I called the vet. That is the sweetest thing I've ever seen in my life. He got 17 taken out.

And I got him like this supersonic, or whatever they call it, sonic tooth brushing every six months because he's a chihuahua and I was trying to keep him healthy. And then I went back at one point and the vet, the dental vet or whatever they're called was like, we can't give him the sonic thing anymore.

His teeth are like loose and rotting. He needs a bunch of them taken out. So then I went to the vet vet and she was like, yike, does he ever? And I was like, how many? And she was like, well, we won't see until we put him under 17. 17.

And then I called her afterwards and I go, you know. Did you save Michigan? I said, I asked that, well, what's funny is I didn't know Michigan was even in there because I hadn't looked closely enough. And then this wonderful vet, I called her afterwards and she has a good sense of humor. And I was like, did like, was it a bit?

Did you keep Michigan as a joke? Cause why are you gonna keep one tiny, that's not doing anything. It's not biting. And she's like, well, what we do is we keep any, we need any good one. And inexplicably that front Michigan was still good. Could you believe?

So what do you, do you like, blender his food up? Oh my, no, it might bring me to tears. I'm not kidding. I might have a tear fall. It's sick. It's sick. I love this dog so much, it makes me mad every day.

Yeah. Every single day and then one of his, his remaining tooth is Michigan. So. You blender his food. Well, before he even, this is before, you're very intuitive. Before I even got 17 of his teeth taken out,

he was already on sort of like a liquidy, it's not full liquid, but it's like mush. But the reason he was on that was because he ate his kibble so quickly that not even a slow feeder could slow him down. And I would put a quarter cup in the thing, look to my boyfriend to be like, what babe? Look down, gone.

And I'd go, did you put the kibble in the dish? And he's like, I swear to God I did. And I'm like, well, it's a slow feeder and it's gone. There's no proof of it. And you should put him in like a hot dog challenge. As a bear. That's really cute. I should put him in a hot dog costume

and then put him in a hot dog challenge. He'll be the ringer. Yeah. He's freaking win. Oh my God. So he's been on this like porgy shit. So it slows him down slightly, slightly. Cause he's having to like kind of lap it instead of, I don't know.

I don't even know, was he hoovering? Also another thing is he doesn't chew. So that was scaring me cause I'd put his kibble in and he would just gulp it all down. Like her daughter. Oh, I'm gonna bite her. I really will. If I ever saw her knees, she'd be in danger.

It's her feet for me. I like her little toes. And her fricking feet are the tops of her feet. I love them. They're a puppy. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah. I just.

Yeah. And so when they fricking crawl, they have their fricking build-a-bear feet on. I can't. Yeah. I'm so upset now. I'm sorry. How will I do the rest-Bear feet on, I can't. I'm so upset now. How will I do the rest of the vlog? I mean, I'm gonna think about Michigan

for the rest of my life. Oh, I'm texting you too. No, I'm gonna make my wallpaper. I'm replacing my daughter and making it Michigan. Do you feel like people on podcasts are like, we should go on a double date and then it never happens? 100% the amount of people that, I mean, I would, I haven't asked a lot because I only wanna ask you, but.

Cause I'm feeling that right now. Like the four of us would be pigs and shit, but then I'm like, am I gonna be LA, who's like, guys, can I say something? Wait a second, have you guys ever been to Creature Coffee? We have to go. We have to go. We have to go.

And then none of us ever text again until I'm on the show for season two. No, we follow up. Where do you guys live? Are you allowed to say or is that creepy? In the valley, here, where are you? We're in Glendale. Oh, Din Tai Fung. Oh, well, anytime. Fucking do you guys live? Are you allowed to say or is that creepy? In Valley. Oh, here, where are you? Where in Glendale? Oh, Dintyphong.

Oh, well, anytime. Fucking live for Dintyphong. I kind of hate that they moved. The new location sucks. I haven't been to the new location. It's inside the mall, right? It's right next to Victoria's Secret Bath and Body Works. Can you like smell the cucumber mist?

Yeah, no, like inside it's nicer and bigger, but like it's so much. I loved the other Dintyphong. Yeah, it was so convenient. I'm thinking about those chocolate buns that have you ever had those? Never had. Oh my God, you guys don't understand.

Those chocolate buns. Oh my cheeks are very red, just because it's only 210 degrees in here. Really, really quick question. Do you have a guilty pleasure? Ooh. I mean, it's not a guilty pleasure because I don't feel guilty about it, but my obsession is RuPaul's Drag Race.

Ooh. And like to a point where, oh, you'll die. Who is it? It's a reminder to digitize my Bat Mitzvah video. Why am I so me? Why can I? Why is this, this is it?

Why of all days are you supposed to digitize something that you filmed, how long ago? 30 years. I put it in a reminder, I knew I'd be back from New York doing press and I was like, I'll put it in this time because people keep asking me that they wanna see it because I talk about it all the time and it's like on VHS tapes that are probably waterlogged

from Hurricane Sandy. I wish it was New York themed, but you already know it was Hollywood. Oh my God, obviously. You know it was Hollywood, and one table was like, but it was pretentious. It was like one table was like the directors, the producers, the, you wanna know one of the tables. I was 12 years old and I was like,

oh, you're at the cinematographers. Have a nice, boring, boring. It's like, but could you imagine being that pretentious as a child? Precocious, really. Was there an extras table? Oh, so rude. That's fucked up.

Amazing, where I'm like, I'm happy you were able to come, Marissa, you're at the extras. Did you bring Morgan? Marissa, Morgan, you guys are at the extras. Thanks for coming though. Yeah. Did your parents send a gift at the extras table?

I can't believe I never thought of that. Genius. So good. Thanks for coming though. To your parents send a gift at the extras table. I can't believe I never thought of that genius. So good. Just to be like so catty and be like, we ran out of, there were no other careers. Sorry. It's not that I think you're like an absolute loser. It's just because we couldn't fit anyone else

at the directors. You're an extra invite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're an extra. That's awful. I do love that you love RuPaul's Drag Race. I love it so much. I watch it.

My big goal in life is to be a judge on the panel. Just like, you know, they have people... I think we can do something. ...guest judging. I know. I mean, I hope, I really hope so. Maybe season two, I don't know. But it's my absolute dream to sit near Rue and Michelle. Also, my brain works in those little, the jokes that they write when the queens

are coming down the runway and they have all these little comments that they make. It's my dream. Like, I start talking, I start saying them at home. I know you do. And I'm like, but I'm all the way over here. And I love it and I watch, I the way over here. And I love it. And I watch, I have the WoW app

and I watch it in every single country. I mean, it's my very special place. And when Love Island is on, I'm also, I'm huge in Love Island. Yeah, we really got into it this season. It was crazy. The reunion was, I mean, it's a little old now to be talking about it,

but the Love Island US reunion was so concerning. Is everyone okay? Yeah, we actually, Sierra reminded us that they said, and Rob, what was it? That we have a hard-hitting question that America wants to know. Have you retired the overalls? And it was like out of that entire fucking season,

you think that's the question that we're dying here? What about the British one? Miguel? No. Oh, UK and Lebanon. Aaron. After we interviewed him, I would DM him every three days and be like,

are you okay? How are you doing? How is he? I should probably check in on him. Thanks for reminding me. You're welcome because, so what went on there where he gets your first friends with him, we're not allowed to talk about it.

But so he, what was that whole story that he was like mean to Kailer or something? Yeah, he was kind of giving fuck, boy. But the internet is so fucking mean. Right. And they just, I mean, when we interviewed him, he was, I honestly was, I felt bad. I mean, he was kind of in tears.

I think Nick held him like maybe four times. Yeah. He also was on Traders UK and won it. So it's like, he went from having this really great experience on reality TV over there to coming over here and being indiscriminated. And like the fans of Traders are so much different than like the love. So he was on Traders after?

Before. He was on UK Traders before. UK Traders, like not Celebrity UK, like there's like a normie Traders. Wait, you're kidding. Yeah, I thought you meant, I was like, how was he on Celebrity Traders before Love Island? No, there's like a normie version.

There's a normie Traders, he won. And then he got on US Love Island and everyone was like, you're mean to Kailor. Yeah, eviscer to Kailer. Yeah, eviscerated him. Wow, okay. I need to look into more of it. Just listen to our episode with him.

I'm going to. Yeah. Well guys, do you wanna, what are you doing this weekend? The digitizing problem. Digitizing my butt is a video, which by the way, I will press delay on that and it'll come up every single day. This weekend, I think I'm chilling

because it's been crazy and I'm going back to New York next week. So then I'm going, oh, then on the 15th, I'm going to Dallas for the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight. Oh wow. I'm very excited about that. Yeah, that's very cool. Did you get invited? Or did you?

It was so random. Should we try to go? Yeah, please. Should we take our daughter, you think? Is it? Oh my God, she'll love it. We'll have grandma babysit. She'll love it.

Which grandma's here? No grandma's here. Okay, but she comes in? We fly around. Because my boyfriend and I talk about this. We're like, well, what are we gonna, his parents are up North, my parents are in Florida. And like the grandma of it all is invaluable.

Yeah. It's huge. I know it's. Sometimes I put her on FaceTime and I'm like watch her while I pee. Dead, perfect. But you're like, if she's loud enough, she's like, she tipped over. Like that.

She tipped, she's in the couch crease. And then she's like dead, she bit, she spied. To get her to stop crying and it's great. It's the cutest thing ever. She's my good friend with her frickin' dirt socks and her frickin' strawberry costume. I feel like she would love Michigan. Oh my goodness, look what happened to my hands

when I thought about it. They went into frickin' cuffs. They did. I get too upset about babies and dogs. Can we have you back on without recording 800 episodes in between? Oh yeah. 800 episodes in between. Oh, yeah 800 episodes

Dude, that's so great. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, people love you. They love the pod was so cute I told my boyfriend I was coming and he was like, that's awesome. He was like all excited. Oh my god Yeah, I was like, oh, we all love him. Yeah, he's edible Well, that's what those are my that's my final thought Jackie He let the people know where to follow you on social media? It's very, very important. This is all that matters. Yep.

Gotta get that merch. Gotta get that merch. I don't have any merch, but my parents are really funny and they're on my social media all the time. But anyway, it's at Jackie Tone, T-O-H-N on Instagram. And I feel people keep telling me to get into TikTok and I haven't really taken. Could do very well on there.

I know, I mean, I feel that is the case. I feel that it is. It is like work though. It's work, I know I would maybe, I'd have to like hire someone because I can't, I don't have the attention span. It's also a trap once you start scrolling, it's very hard to get out.

I know, well, that's why I don't consume on there, but I would like at least like to, you know. I haven't been on there as a consumer in maybe six months. Oh, it's so hard to get out. I know, well that's why I don't consume on there, but I would like, at least like to, you know. I haven't been on there as a consumer in maybe six months. Oh, it's so good for your mental health. I don't even turn it on. No. I feel like you'd be really good at like hot takes, like just being like, here's a hot take,

but I have to be careful because I'm so opinionated. Yeah. It's like, if I said one one thousandth of the shit that I was thinking, not that I'd be canceled, but I'd have like fucking enemies everywhere. And it's like. It'd be us. Sick.

Or you could be the new Joan Rivers. Oh, that's my dream. That's my dream. That's my dream. I love her. Thank you. I love her so much. Me too. I miss her so much. That was, she was like one of the only,

like when people would cry about losing celebrities, cause we all have these parasocial relationships with them and I would always understand it. But it wouldn't get me like a family member. And then we lost Joan and I was like, oh, I get it now. That's like a person that informed so much for me and how I am as a human.

We named our daughter after her. Really? I was like, well, it makes no sense because her name is River Rose. Joan Rivers. Right, so that's why I said really. But I know someone who named their daughter Joan and it is real.

Oh, that makes sense. I'm sure she had a lot of people. I love that that was so obscene to you that it was like, this is cute. I never saw it till now. It's giving text. It is giving, stop. Text as in a brief is so dumb.

Tech, tech-ish-a-t. Rude. Tech, no, a good dumb. Tech and a brief. It's giving such like text. She passed. I'm so sorry I killed her. We could keep talking, I think for hours.

We're gonna have to kick you out. Love you guys. Bye, thanks for listening. It's so comfortable in here. I never wanna leave. Well, thank you guys for listening. We will see you back on Monday, but don't forget if you haven't checked out

the Going Deeper episode with Ashley from Love is Blind, she gets into all the good details about her relationship with Tyler, the baby mama drama. She comes with receipts. She puts in all the context that you were hoping to get all the answers in terms of why she is happily married and for why maybe people should just kind of listen to the full story before jumping to conclusions.

That is all on the episode of Going Deeper. Plus we have Ramses earlier this week on Tuesday, who faced the fire of us. Obviously we were pretty hard on him, and we give Ramses a lot of credit for coming on the show, but be sure to check that out. We are back next week, our Going Deeper episode, with the very charming and wonderful couple,

Garrett and Taylor. They are with us on Wednesday, and we have a jam-packed week next week as well for Reality Recap. We'll see you then, bye.