The Viall Files - E839 - SNL w/ Ego Nwodim, Brianna LaPaglia and Zach Bryan, RHOC Reunion, RHOSLC, & the Grammy Nominations

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Ego Nwodim joins us to talk about Saturday Night Live, being a comedian, and what she’s currently watching. Meanwhile, we discuss waiting in lines on the plane, Bronwyn Newport vs Lisa Barlow on RHOSLC, Katie Ginella vs Emily Simpson on RHOC, and Brianna LaPaglia addressing Zach Bryan. “I always try to make at least one person laugh.” OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Wonderful Pistachios - Thank you Wonderful Pistachios for sponsoring this segment of The Viall Files! Visit https://www.WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more Shopify - Upgrade your business and get the same checkout we use for Viall Files Merch. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at https://www.shopify.com/viall  Helix Sleep  - Helix is offering 25% off sitewide and 2 free dream pillows with any mattress purchase! Go to https://www.HelixSleep.com/Viall  Dreamland Baby - Go to https://www.dreamlandbabyco.com and enter my code VIALL at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide + free shipping. Cymbiotika - Go to https://cymbiotika.com/viall for 20% off your order + free shipping today. Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @eggyboom @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @the_mare_bare @dereklanerussell  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 09:42 - Vibes Or Knowledge 12:34 - Household Headlines 40:25 - Ego Nwodim Joins 01:39:24 - RHOSLC 01:52:45 - RHOC 02:11:51 - Outro  

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pop culture moms, find it wherever you get your podcasts. You're crazy. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the show. I'm your host, Kareem. And I'm your host, Kareem. And I'm your host, Kareem. What's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the Valfalse reality recap edition I'm your host Nick and boy we got a lot to get into Sierra said I looked tired this morning.

Really? Yeah. I did ask her I was like was that an intrusive thought like did you mean to say that? She's like hi and then she goes you look tired I was like, I'm tired this morning. Really? Yeah. I did ask her, I was like, was that an intrusive thought? Like, did you mean to say that? She's like, hi. And then she goes, you look tired. I was like, well, fuck me. It was actually way worse than that because I started talking about my weekend

and then he just like looked up but like looked a little tired and I was just like, I'm not used to it. So it just, it jarred me and I was like. It's very early right now. You look really tired. And I was like, oh my God. Not nice.

Most people are not up by now. It's the same time as it always is when we record. But most people are not up by eight o'clock. Who are most people? Most Americans that I talk to outside the store. Okay. I just don't know about that. Well, we do, I mean, Nick gets up early with River.

She wakes up, she starts yapping in her crib at like 5 a.m. Thank you, Nana. Yeah, thank you, Nana, and we listen to it and. She plays by herself in the crib now? And you can hear her talk to herself. Does she sleep with toys or is it like a mobile? I like to put a new stuffed animal in her crib every night so when she wakes up it's like surprise,

there's a different stuffed animal. So she's in the stuffed animal phase. Does she have a favorite? We're entering it. She does have a favorite and it's so funny because. Is it the avocado one? No, she does not love the avocado one. She's not an LA girly.

No, thank God. But she does love this giraffe that I got her in Nashville and I was like, River, do you want this? And she paid zero attention to it. And my sister was like, she does want it. And so actually my sister bought it, not me. But Amanda got her the stuffed animal and she could not care less about this giraffe at all.

Hated it, would not look at it, would not play with it and now obsessed. Giraffes aren't easy to find like kid subject, if that makes sense. Like, cause when I was a little kid, I loved dinosaurs and you could not find it anywhere. But giraffes you can find everywhere. So that's a good thing.

Really? Now you can find dinosaurs, but back then you couldn't. Oh, interesting. From my experience anyways. From my experience. Okay, interesting. But no, I'm so sorry you went through that. Thank you. But giraffes are easy to find.

Like any zoo, giraffe teddy bear. No? Perfect. Yes. Maybe. Do I look tired? I don't think so. I don't think you look tired.

You've woken up since. Oh. Yeah. Sarah's like, after I put that concealer under your eyes, you look great. A little hyaluronic acid, you're a good girl. Yeah, no, like Sierra did a whole makeup routine after she showed me some eyeliner. You're welcome. Well, we did have a crazy Saturday night

because we took Joan's advice, and we are now doing Saturday night date nights. Cute. Every Saturday night, regardless. We're two for two. We are two for two. Who made the reservation? Well, cute story. Cute. Every Saturday night. We're two for two. We are two for two.

Who made the reservation? Well, cute story. Cute story, cute, cute story. Because last week we were like, let's do this. And then Natalie and I are not good planners. Neither of us. Usually you want to marry someone who's like, the things you're not good at,

they are, and vice versa. And we've gotten pretty lucky with some of that stuff, but when it comes to planning, Natalie and I, neither of us, big planners. Anyways some of that stuff, but when it comes to planning, Natalie and I, neither of us big planners. Anyways, so last week, we're like, it was like Saturday at five, we're like, we should do this.

And then we're like, oh, where do we go? And then we didn't really have reservations and we still had a great night. We stood around for like, maybe close to two hours. Yeah, anyways. At the bar, but we were drinking. Yeah. So you just rolled up.

We just rolled up. We rolled up. We were like, what's the wait like for two? They're like, that's gonna be two hours. Wait, where did you go? South Beverly Grill. Oh, maybe you said that. It's in Beverly Hills.

Name them. Anyways, so this week, Nia was like, we have to start taking turns. Planning. Planning. Yeah. And I said, okay. It's a surprise every other. We did not designate which person's turn it was.

And so I got done with work. I said, we have an 8.30 reservation. And she goes, I got us a nine o'clock reservation. Oh, you both got reservations. We both got reservations. We both took the initiative. And so I canceled the nine o'clock. That's way too late to eat dinner.

But my favorite trick is you still make a reservation no matter what time it is. And then you go to the restaurant at- Show up early. And you're like, we have a reservation at nine, but we just got here a little early. Can you squeeze a stand? I have to get back to my child, she's sleeping.

Yeah, and listen, back in my hostess days, I would have set you. Would you? I would have, yes. Do you skip lines ever? What do you mean skip lines? Have you ever, do you skip lines? Do I skip lines?

Define skip lines. Like at a park? Line at a park? To board a plane? Like a theme park. Oh, okay. Like as a mother, you're saying. No, just as a human being. This just came out of nowhere, this question of like,

skipping, we're, cause we were talking about- Well, I saw this not even, we didn't even have this in household headlines, but apparently the airlines are testing a new system to sound an alarm if you board before your designated group. I thought they do that already. No, they don't. No, they don't.

They scare you into it. Yeah, I agree with you. I love that. I do too. Southwest will do this. Southwest does it if you try to go up early, they'll be like, no, no, no, no, it's not your turn. And you have to wait till the next cycle.

Yeah, they were like, you are paying $25 for early bird check-in or we will kill you. Yeah. It's honestly one of my bigger pet peeves. There is nothing that makes me happier than somebody getting caught doing something else. Why? What I mean, that's fine. But like listen It's the Karen in you. We are we are guy priority. I'm just saying like this is an elitist rule I don't think so. It's the one of the most irritating

Oh really trying to get on the plane and then everybody gets up and is just standing in front of the plane It's because in an airport everybody acts as if their brain has magically exited their body. That is true. It's a lawless land. Do you stand up? Who here stands up? Absolutely not.

No, no, I am sitting my ass down until it is my turn to get up. Wait a second. I'm not dumb. Wait a second. Wait a second. If you are on the aisle, you immediately get the fuck up. Immediately stand up because we've been sitting for forever

I need space. You've got to get up. You have to get away from me. What are we? Before we get off, yeah And no and then we get to the gate. Oh, I'm up. You guys are unhinged. You stand up for no reason. I stand up. Can you do this? Yes. I'm standing. No, no, no, no, no. If you're window or middle, you can't stand.

Here's what I do. I typically fly the cheapest possible option possible. And usually that means I am in the back of the plane and sometimes I'll be in the middle, sometimes, you know. Sure. Who's the same? Let go and let go, you know? And so what happens is that everybody is standing up,

I'm sitting there chilling, but there is an event where if I'm in the aisle, I can scoot out. And if I can scoot out, I'll scoot out and then just let it go. But in general, no, I'm sitting. And people get really intense and it's like, what can you do? You are truly in a place where you have no power

whatsoever, just let that wash over you. People that stand are creating the stress in the plane. Yeah. Because you guys are like being like, we need to go, we need to go. Let me stand. It's like take a second. And then they take 20 minutes to get their stupid carry-on bag into the aisle. Oh my god.

And I'm like, you need to have an exit strategy. If you don't go out of a plane with an exit strategy, you're dead to me. But we've been sitting for five hours. You know those people whose luggage is like not where they sat to and they just cause mayhem on the airplane? They force their way through just to get back and out. Well, kind of, I mean, but like there's no, the flow always goes forward and if you got stuck,

if like the flight attendant just took your bag and threw it 20 rows back, you're kind of panicked. But isn't that your fault for coming late? You just have to wait for everybody else to get off the plane and then you go back your bag like a normal person if you came early your but your thing would be above your head right we're all inherently victims on a plane no I know that's what I'm saying I think it's great the hip you know I'm just saying like unless you're in first class

also one of the smarter things that I've seen somebody do is while they were going through the front of the plane they're like hey can I put my bag on, like just putting the bag up towards the front of the plane as you go backwards and then when you're coming off the plane, grab your bag as you're leaving. That's a ripple effect for a disaster. Why? Because then everybody in the front doesn't have a spot.

That's not true. Everybody's already seated in the front, so whatever's open in the overhead compartment is available. But the rules of an airline or just air travel in general is definitely like an elitist thing to do. 100%. It's like an elitist class. I think it causes the biggest arguments in,

I think it's honestly worse than politics. It's class. You get people going about what they do on airplanes and people get riled up. It's like the Titanic, all the rich people, like early exit, your early entrance, they get catered. You ever fly to Delta One in LA? You're like, you're dealing,

like you're treated like the king and queen. And then like all the normies are just like hurting. No, I've never flown Delta One in LA. Well, someday you will, Mary. I'm flying Spirit. Someday you will. Delta One has its own entrance. I'm flying Spirit that you don't have to go through.

Is that normal security? Is this normal Delta? And I'm just saying, I think it's hilarious for all the, when they start like the alarms going off for the people who just want to get on a little bit early so their bags aren't thrown in the back and like, and everyone wants to shame them. I think it's kind of- I am doing Delta for the first time in two weeks for Thanksgiving. Thanks to you guys.

Yeah. Because you guys- We love Delta. You love Delta. We love Delta. I made it sound like you were paying for it. I have gone Delta now that- We do pay for our flights.

I realized that I wasn't saving that much money by flying Southwest to Florida, so now I've started, because I have to do connecting flights in Southwest, but I can get a direct flight through Delta. Delta, you can choose your seat. I found that out, because Southwest, it's a free-fraw.

Yeah. I just like the two free bags The only airline that does free is expensive free is expensive You know we can argue about this for hours. I know well later this episode We got the hilarious ego Wodim from SNL can't wait to talk with her alright now It's time for vibes versus stats But before we get to our scores you got to remember that this vibes or stats segment of The Vile Files is brought to you by Wonderful Pistachios. Wonderful Pistachios, no shells, flavors come in a variety of flavors including chili roasted,

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We picked the Cowboys? Yeah. We did pick the Cowboys. Someone did DM me and they were like, you have to stop picking the Cowboys. Like, you have to pick them every time and you have to stop. It's the dancers. It's almost as if I have been trying to manipulate everybody

into hating the Cowboys as much as me this entire time. Is that you that DM'd me? I have burners. Is that your Pensa? I have burners. Yeah, so we lost that in vibes. I told you guys. Eagles did demolish the Cowboys like 34 to six.

Yeah. But we won the other one. We did. The Vikings did beat the Jaguars. So it's one and one. Vibes is currently at... We don't need to say it. Seven and 13.

Thank you. I think we need to hear it. And Knowledge is 11 and eight. Yeah. So. Seven and 13, that's not too bad. You know, speaking of vibes though, we can give a shout out for this weekend's Super Vibe hero, Ricky Purcell, I believe I'm saying his name correctly. I apologize, Ricky, if I'm not.

Do you know who Ricky Purcell is? Ricky is a rookie for the San Francisco 49ers. Okay, Rook. Yeah, and like three weeks before the season started, I don't know, maybe like a week, somewhere before the season started, Ricky was walking the streets of San Francisco and encountered a crime.

He intervened in said crime. He intervened. And was shot twice. What? Whoa. The rookie was? Through the chest. In the heart?

No. He survived and he scored his first touchdown over the weekend. After getting shot. He came back, he's a hero. Wait. We should get Ricky on the show. He got shot and then still.

Twice, I believe twice, definitely once, yes. Yeah, look it up, it's crazy. If I got shot, I'd take the ear off. Good for him. He literally was, he's a literal hero, got shot, recovered, and is now backscoring touchdowns for the San Francisco Fire. Wow.

He was shot through the chest and. Through the chest. And shot in the arm. And the arm, twice. That's tough. Do you think. He's got that dog in him. Do you think the arm he used to make the touchdown

was the shot arm? I don't know. That's some next level human. That's some next level vibes. Ricky, don't lose that number. Let's give it, yeah, there we go. Can we get into some household headlines? Yes, please.

What's going on in the news? Did you see Reagan is not retiring? Who? Reagan, the Australian break dancer. Australian break dancer, Reagan, who scammed her way into the Olympics. Because last week it was a headline. Who never was break dancing?

Well, she was. But now she's not not break dancing. Well, she said she's gonna still do community jams. I'm still gonna get down. But in terms of those elite competitions and the Olympics, which by the way, breaking's not even in the Olympics. I don't really see- Not anymore. Because of her.

I don't really see myself competing. It's not me that's retiring. It's Ray Hadley. And for context, last week, we talked about this on Pop, but last week there was a headline of Ray Guns retiring. And the whole bit has been she's got breakdancing removed from the Olympics. That's not a bit, it's true.

It's facts. That's what happened. She gave it a lot of publicity. She also made it kind of laughable. Which I feel like that's one thing you don't wanna do to an Olympic sport is make a mockery of it. And there's all these videos of Australian kids like being awesome at break dancing

who will never be able to pursue their dream because Ray Gun, thought of Ray Gun. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Well, Whoopi Goldberg also announced she has plans to launch an all-women sports network. All right, pop off. Whoopi, thank you, mama.

I need a Sister Act Three before this happens. Again, Sister Act Three will be held on the court. The nuns are playing basketball. I want a team of just nuns. That I would watch. The WNBA could do it. They're that powerful. Yeah, yeah.

They would raise a lot of money. Sister act one or two, which one's better? Who? Who is your favorite sister growing up? I grew up around a lot of nuns. I know, who's your favorite? Sister Teresa. Really?

Or Monica, I don't know. There was a sister Monica. I grew up on, I can't remember. Are you making names up? Yeah. Okay. But I your favorite? Sister Teresa. Really? More Monica. I don't know. There was a sister Monica. I grew up on. Are you making names up? Yeah. Okay.

But I don't remember their names. Sister, one is a classic. There should be a Housewives with nuns. They could never though. I know. Secret lives of nun white. Well it's like, secret lives of sister nuns.

I mean they made the sound of music. So. Have you seen it? Who hasn't seen the sound of music? I've seen sound of music. Edelweiss. I've seen sound of music so that's have you seen it who has seen the sound of music? I've seen sound of music Going on 30. Yeah, 16 going on something. Yeah, gotta watch sound of music. Yeah, but sister act who Gwyneth Paltrow Transitioning us here needs to watch sister act because so she had her like intermittent fasting diet that like took the world of like bone Broth and apples or whatever it was.

Yes, that's her daughter's name. Bone broth? Apple. Bone broth would be such a beautiful name for a baby girl. I was like which one? Could have been either one with Gwyneth Paltrow. The thing is she's making headlines now because she was seen in New York City chowing down on a steak and ice cream.

Good for her. Off of she like took the world being like only eat this. But it wasn't it was like know, it was a diet. Diets are meant to be broken, you know? It was a intermittent fasting. Well, but didn't you think your body can't handle, this is my own brain, she's eating nothing and she's going to eating a steak?

She might have a little bit of a tummy ache. It's a Wagyu French Dip Sandwich. Ooh. Classic sea salt fries and a Samoa sundae. I mean, it sounds fantastic. Do you think Gwen and Paltrow would go to Cantor's with me? What's Cantor's? Oh my God, it's Cantor's?

Deli? What? Wait, we tried Cantor's on the way back from Coachella when we shot. Sorry. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. Wait, what's Cantor's?

I don't know what Cantor's is. I don't know what Cantor's is. Down on Fairfax. Cantor's is a place on Fairfax. It's delicious. It's an old school diner. You gotta try it. Is it the one across the street from John and Vinny's?

Kind of, yeah. Yes. Oh. Yeah, it's by the complex. That's here. Which is devastating. Or is it just famous? Is it more good than famous?

I love it. It's a place you gotta go. Do they have breakfast? Yes. Cause the diner was breakfast. I was there on Friday. Motzabelle soup is delicious there. I got the pastrami dip, I had a great time.

All right, all right. I do wanna smell Gwyneth P I had a great time. I do want to smell Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina candle. Well her vagina is what it's supposed to smell like. Hers? Personally? The whole thing was it was her vagina. Wow. Like what? I don't know. My own curiosity. And it was exploding and that's why like people stopped buying it. It was exploding? You didn't know this? She was literally popping her you said that pussy fire That's crazy Honestly, what do you want for Christmas? Like my own vagina candle

Sure Oh my god Do I know of your vagina no, I was hoping Gwyneth Who's like, of your vagina? No, I was hoping Gwyneth's. I had nothing to do with the rest. Could I win with that reaction? Could you win in any reaction? Yeah.

Oh my God, that's all I ever wanted. I'm like, oh, you're gross. I don't know. Maybe. I'm just saying. Just try it. Maybe. Would we light your vagina candle after date night?

I think we'd probably light it. What's the occasion? I feel like it's like an all around, like you're having coffee, like light it up. Christmas apple cider with the vagina. Dinner party. Obviously. Well, it obviously depends on what scent we're going with.

Right, and when your mom's in town. Is it how balance is my pH? Yeah. Which time of the month? Is she balanced? There's like a slight irony. There's like an irony. What if there's a candle that like changes scents throughout the month? Is she balanced? There's like a slight irony. There's like an irony. What if there's a candle that like changes

the sentence throughout the month? I have no response. There's just like a layer of like red and then you're like wait a little bit. You light it, you're like woo, it's time. Okay, wait. Also on like a weird scenario. So the official Mattel Wicked dolls, have you seen this?

No. So they had like, and this is like the Barbie doll versions of Glinda and Alphaba. They released the dolls and on the packaging it says, visit www.wicked.com. When you visit wicked.com, it takes you to a porn site. And these are kids' toys. And the actual website is wickedmovie.com.

But on the packaging it doesn't say that. How do you fuck that up? I don't know. I feel like that's not, I feel like that's not. How many fucking decision makers, you know what one thing I know about corporate America? They have a lot of meetings and often they have more meetings than they even need.

And there's usually like a several approval steps. Right. Like, so how does something like this get by without it being intentional? Well, don't they usually say less people, don't they say less people like actually approve it than you think do? Maybe so. Like we think it's five, but it's actually two or whatever. I don't they usually say less people actually approve it than you think do? Maybe so.

Like we think it's five, but it's actually two or whatever. I don't know. Still, nobody thought to type that in. No one looked. Or maybe someone did. Or maybe someone did. This happens pretty often where kid toys are like, there was that one kid toy like two years ago where it was like moaning and like saying sexual stuff.

Like now we have this. Yeah. It is interesting for these dolls though, cause it's like, you would think they would have just scrapped all of the dolls or just bought the domain so that you couldn't go to a porn site. Yeah, you'd think so. And they haven't done anything? No, I looked it up last night.

I was like, let me see if I'm still. Kids are still. How was the rest of your night? Yeah, was it like good? I didn't watch anything. Was it a good site? It wasn't my kind of content. Yeah, oh, okay.

It's women on women movies. Oh, that's my kind of shit. That makes sense for Wicked. Oh, yeah, that sure does. Fun thing. It says something. So intentional? Something has changed within me.

Yeah. Something is not the same. Yeah. So are you saying it was a... I'm not that girl. Are we starting a conspiracy? They did make a statement and it says, toy manufacturer Mattel has said it deeply regrets

a misprint on packaging for dolls inspired by the Wicked movie. And they have recommended that you throw away the packaging for the dolls. Yes, throw it away. It was, we deeply regret this unfortunate error and are taking immediate action to remedy this. I will say anytime that I did get a Barbie,

I mean, the packaging was immediately ripped. And I was not looking, Barbie, I mean the packaging was immediately ripped and and I was not I was not Looking reading every word on the packaging. I was getting the Barbie out Yes, the thing also do the kids even look up website domains anymore. They're just going to the app this this website You can tell is for like a Karen like if there's a case where Karen's complaining about the doll to your point But imagine the Karen going to now this porn site That's what she deserves. Maybe so, is it the website there to calm Karen down?

Maybe, it's like a derail her. Yeah, like Karen. And she forgets. Like, oh. Hey, maybe try chilling out. Speaking of content, did you see that Paul Mescal? So he was in Normal People and now he's in Gladiator 2. He basically compared content and like films to two different things.

Basically saying, over the last few years people have been talking about films as content. That's a filthy word. It's not content. It's fucking work. Well, work is content. And basically he's kind of drawing the dichotomy between like Instagram influencers and like actors. I don't think it's an elitist to value art as art. Yeah, but who is to decide what is art or work? Because he's not even talking about art. He's talking about work. He's just being snobby is what it is, because it's like you're saying that Instagram

art or like art that's not in a theater is not art. Well, he calls it a filthy word. Yeah, there's people that make really great quality content that might as well be in theaters on social media. And that's pretty much saying that because they do it at home or because they're not like that. And they are getting paid to do it, it is their job. So I'm like, however, like, I don't know, I don't think you can compare what is content versus,

because the way that he's saying it, he's talking about like, get ready with me, or like something as if like trying to cheapen it, where I'm like, there are people who make amazing content that like you're never gonna see in a movie theater. Also the meaning of content has drastically changed over the past year or two. I mean, just like the way we are creating content

and making content and we as a people, people can now have more ownership in their content. You can make whatever they want. Before you weren't able to do that. You would never be able to make your own content. You'd have to be approved by a corporation or like a studio or now you don't need a studio's permission to create content.

Like this show, for example. I'm also like, you can consider whatever you do art and nobody can take that from you just because their terminology of content versus yours is art that it's all the same thing. I just want you guys to know that when I was taking my shirt off and making Bob Ross photos and paintings and roller skating That was fucking work

It was work. It was art. It was both art and work I think we should move on to what has taken the internet by absolute storm Which is Zach Bryan and Brianna La Paglia. This is the crazy. I mean like her her Her speaking out about this, first of all, props to her. Give her like an applause. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's one thing to talk to your friends and your family,

but to go on a massive platform and to share your experience about someone that a lot of people love, and you know you're gonna get a lot of backlash for it is incredibly strong, it's incredibly brave, and I know you're gonna get a lot of backlash for it, is incredibly strong, it's incredibly brave, and I do just wanna like hats off to Brianna for being able to do that, because that's scary. Give them the details of the story, babe.

So Brianna finally opens up about her relationship with Zach, and kinda starts it off by saying that he, well I guess Dave Portnoy really is the one who outed the number, but he wanted her to sign an NDA, and he was going to, over the span of several years, give her $12 million. $12 million. To sign this NDA.

And she went back and forth. Obviously, that's life-changing money. That's, you know, that is hard. That's that is hard to, that's a lot of money. And, you know, and I think she said, you know, even Dave Portnoy, who is an incredible businessman, I mean, hello, he was like, maybe you should take the money. And she finally decided that she wasn't going to,

she got on her podcast and explained a lot of stuff that happened in their relationship. A few things being, you know, he had issues with a dress she wore to the Golden Globes. He would tell her, you know, she can't wear stuff like that. She needed to change. He didn't like it. But then he would post on social media the photo of her and be like, God, she's so beautiful. So Brianna sitting at home being like, I thought you were mad at me, I thought you hated this, but then no, you're telling the world you like it. So it was a lot of back and forth. She said he would really build her up super, super high

just to tear her down immediately. Did he unfollow her after that too? He unfollowed her after that. He unfollowed a bunch of- It was just one of those, the more she talked, the more she painted a very clear picture of a very kind of, I think sadly, a classic story. Unfortunately, everybody I think, while you're watching it,

a name pops up in your head that's like, mm. The very toxic, jealous kind of partner who is very emotionally abusive and just kind of like, What I remember is that she said he would throw her phone across the room and that's why it was shattered. And then she did use the word abuse. Yes, she said that he emotionally abused her.

Well, when you, if anyone's seen a picture of the dress she wore to the Golden Globes, I mean, she looked lovely. It was a very, I mean, everyone has an opinion on what is conservative or scandalous or provocative, but I think for the average person, it was just a lovely gown that she was wearing. And then you hear her talk about how he, essentially slut-shaming her,

telling her what type of energy he thinks she's putting off by wearing said dress. And then again, the kind of the psychological, he's like an emotional terrorist. When you like you tell her she's doing one thing and then he does another thing public facing. It's just like you don't know how to be around these types of people because they're just constantly fucking with your mind and your emotions.

Robbing you of your joy when she was talking about the tour and how she was on tour with him for months at a time. They scheduled her podcast tour. She was like, I was isolated alone. I had no friends. I didn't know these people. But staying by her dude,

the second that she gets her podcast tour up and going, he's sending her text messages, breaking up or not responding to her, booking a pop-up show, just to like fuck with her and then breaks up with her while she's trying to work. So she's devastated on the other side of the country. And it's like, you can't pick up your phone. You can't FaceTime. You can't, but he's playing a game.

It's also like she went through so much of this while being trapped on a tour bus. It feels so sad and so scary that like she just never knew what version of her boyfriend was gonna like walk into her tiny tour bus. She had no idea what version she was going to get. You know, I think the last time she saw him, he was like, I gotta go back home.

Like, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go. And she was like, okay, I get it. You know, can I have a hug? And he was like, no, and left and she hasn't seen him since. And then when all of this, they broke up, he was like, listen, like whatever you need. She was like, I want a week to just process this before like we have to, before the world finds out and I have to deal with it with the world. And then he gets caught on Raya and so he posts a statement saying that they're broken up so he didn't come off as a cheater

and she said that she called him and was like, dude, seriously, you made a dating account? And he said, I didn't make a dating account, I reactivated it. Which just pissed me off so bad that like that was his response. It's like, that's what you have to say when like, I don't know, it's just so sad. And then I feel like the part that really breaks my heart is in this entire podcast, the TikTok she's made following, she makes it a very large point to take fault.

And she's very much like, you know, I stayed in this relationship and I stuck around and I blame myself for this. And I think that is what's so sad because so many of us in those situations blame ourselves and take the fall. And I think we're wired to do that because our partner, nothing's ever their fault, right? And it's like, you work so hard and you fight so hard to stay in a relationship because you have to like fight our partner, nothing's ever their fault, right? And it's like, you work so hard and you fight so hard

to stay in a relationship because you have to like, fight for every inch of validation and every inch of like, love from this person that when it gets bad, you're like, I should leave, but then you're like, well, fuck, I've fought so hard. Like, why would I just give this up? Like, I've done everything. And so I think her blaming herself is just so heartbreaking.

And like, if anyone is in those situations, it's not your fault. And like, while those things may be true, while she might've stayed when she shouldn't have, whatever, I think we can all say that we've done that. It's like, it's not your fault. It's the abuser's fault. It's the person who isn't treating you right's fault.

And it just, it like makes me sad that these women are just like blaming themselves. But also thank God that she is saying something because at the end of the day, like you are letting us know something about somebody who the next girl would be so excited to fill your shoes. Totally. And it's like, that is something that like

we need to do to protect each other. And I also want to like the women before him, I've seen them get so much hate right now because they're like, why would they take the money? You've gotta talk about this. And it's like, I don't know what he offered his previous relationships. I don't know what he's offered.

I've seen some people be like, I signed to NDA for nothing. Like what the, I'm a clown. And it's like, Brianna is in a position where she is lucky enough to say no to this money. And she said that herself. And it's like, to bash these women for taking money because they're not like, not going to.

Yeah. What's, what's their choice between a million dollars or seven figures or being hated on by his entire audience. It's like, I could tell the truth and then no one could believe me and his entire fan base can crucify me. Or I can just take an amount of money. I may never see my entire life and have peace of mind and then go get therapy.

And then people wanna judge people for that? Fuck you. You know? Like it is, yeah. Well and the interesting part too is that people started claiming then that Brianna was paid 10 million by Dave Portnoy to like do a tell-all.

And she's already come out and been like, that's not fucking true. Yeah and it's just like, there's no winning in that situation. But even if that were true, good for Dave. Yeah. Yeah, well yeah. He's worth an ungodly amount of money.

To see your point, you're protecting others in the future by coming out and saying something, so. I was like, Zach Bryan, how stupid are you? He's so bad and so like, I mean, this man didn't even think, knowing he has a history of this type of behavior, he's already allegedly had exes signed and NDAs, so he has a history of this type of behavior. He's already allegedly had exes sign an NDA,

so he has a history of knowing that he's dating, you know, he does, he's like, his thing apparently is to date women, be fucking shitty, and then get them to sign this NDA. And then he decided to date Brianna Chickenfry, who's like best friend and co-host, is Dave Portnoy. He's saying a lot of things about Dave Portnoy, but he likes to protect his friends.

And then Zach Brian, just like the way he, it's just like how sloppy and stupid, I don't know. He thinks he's untouchable. Yeah, I mean, it's how arrogant do you think you are? I also do think, and she, you know, when you're in these relationships, and I can speak from experience, I think a lot of women can speak from experience

of where it's just, and Brianna said it, it's like she wasn't herself. And I think, you know, she got a lot of women can speak from experience of where it's just, and Brianna said it's like she wasn't herself. And I think you know, she got a lot of hate for a lot of things she said recently and it's clear she was going through a lot. It's clear she was under a lot of pressure. And it's like while I don't make excuses for those things, it's clear there was something going on that where she wasn't in her right mind and she wasn't thinking clearly. And it's like a lot of people turned on her to then find out that like, oh, this is what was happening behind the scenes. Like,

I think she even said it was projection. Yeah. She was like, I was clearly projecting. Yeah. And I think also the 12 million, you know, I don't know. She said they recorded each other a lot. You know, I don't know if that is what he's trying to protect of like, I don't want these videos to get out. I honestly think he cares more about people not knowing the truth behind his songs. Thank you, yeah. Like I think that people,

he cares more about people being able to like, sing his songs and relate to his songs and not know anything that's gone on behind the scenes and just be like, oh, he's such a magical writer. So when he sings songs like, I'm gonna let you down and I'm gonna act a certain way, when you listen to the song, it's more like, oh, you know, he's trying his best to be a good guy, but he's just gonna let you down.

And boy, ain't that the truth, you know? Just the flawed humor. What a guy, oh, shucks, you know? He's just gonna drink a little too much and we listen to it being like, oh, we so relatable, you know? But the truth is, he's a monster, you know? Yeah.

Well, I mean, and to give the listeners more context, there was something that Breonna said where she was singing a Morgan Wallen song, and then he wouldn't talk to her. I think that just shows. And I think- Another piece of shit, by the way. A lot of these guys are horrible fucking people.

And there's, yeah, chances are your favorite celebrity, 50% they're monsters. Some of them are great people and a lot of them aren't. But also I think that speaks to like just how weak of a man he is because it's like, he refuses to consider himself as country. He's like, I am not a country artist. I am not a country singer.

He thinks it's disrespectful to him. I don't know. And so it's like to not even allow your partner to listen to anyone other than you, it's like how weak, how small of a man do you have to be? It's just- No, that's giving very small dick energy. Tee-bee-tee-bee-bee.

This is about as small as it gets. It's definitely a take. He's continuing to post as if nothing's going on. Didn't he release music too in those two elements? No, no. Which is, it's now like top five, I think, in the world. I mean, it's like, at the same time that all of this is happening,

it is bringing so much more attention to Zach Brian and his music. And you know, they're saying like, Pink Skies was written about Brianna's co-host, Grace. And it's like, she, Brianna said that she drug Zach to Grace's grandmother's funeral. And he was pissed and he screamed at her and it was a huge fight.

And then he ended up writing that song, which became a massive smash hit. And it's like, you know, I think that he's, he's just going about it as like, my name's in your mouth, I'm gonna keep releasing music, you're gonna keep listening to my stuff, because you're gonna keep wanting to find out little things that I've written about. And he's just getting bigger and bigger.

I think as a society, we should start devaluing the tortured man. Mm-hmm. It's also like, this is what happens when we make ugly people famous. Literally, I don't think I had ever actually seen a picture of Zach Brian before. He's got balls when you consider these five foot, nothing, balding, 27 year old. And he is an, listen.

Talent is very sexy. He is very talented, he's an incredible writer. He is a shit human, he's a shit boyfriend, he's a shit partner, he's a shit boyfriend. He's a shit partner. He's a shit friend. His bandmate, bandmate, someone who he considers his brother, he talks about he's had his bandmates for his whole life, released a song a few days ago, Zach releases his High Road the exact same day

and says nothing about his bandmate releasing his own single song. Says nothing, posts nothing about it. He just releases his own to like what one up it. It's like- Really? Yes. His bandmate released a song

and he basically overshadowed him? Yes, RJ released a song. I did see, I did look to see if Zach responded to any of this like podcast stuff. And I guess he reposted two days ago on his story. One of someone else's posts, but the quote said on the post, I didn't know what to say.

I felt like crying. "'God damn it, everybody in the world wants an explanation "'for your acts and for your very beginning.'" And that's like a Jack Kerouac quote. I know, he's gotta plan the victim. So it's like he is trying to- He's posting a Jack Kerouac quote after- Kerouac, yeah.

So it's like he's reposting stuff to respond, but not being direct to your point, Natalie. Yeah, Jack Kerouac, another tortured artist that was awful to everyone around him, and everyone's like, he's so talented though. He also, Zach responds to everything. Anytime he is caught, when the whole Taylor Swift tweets happen,

he immediately posted a tweet being like, I did this, this, I'm sorry, I was doing this, I'm deleting Twitter. And when he got arrested? When he arrested, he made a public post. So it is interesting that now he's just deciding to like not say anything when he's responded to every questionable negative attention he's ever gotten.

And Walker Hayes, country singer, wrote the first diss track against Zach Brian. Is it good? No. But it doesn't matter. He did, he called out Zach Bryan, basically. Before this all happened? Oh yeah, this is a while back.

It basically is because Zach Bryan got on Twitter and like talked shit about one of the songs that Tyler Childers got like nominated for an award for and Walker Haze was like, whoa, like. Jesus didn't fight so that I could be for Zach Bryan. Literally. Insane. All right, well. Well, I love Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards.

Distract, it's stuck in my head right now as I'm looking at you. Send your love to Brianna. Literally. How does it go? Right. Now that she's free. To be.

To be. To be. Yes, it's good. Okay. They're defending their friend. Well, up next we have the hilarious Ego Wodim from SNL to talk about Grammy nominations and her love for reality TV.

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We're so excited to have you. Thank you. Happy to be here. Well, we couldn't be more happy. How has life been for you these days? Not great, but we're gonna, we're pushing through nonetheless. I know I'm supposed to say good,

and then we can keep the pushing. You can say whatever you want. I prefer honesty. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I prefer honesty in general as a rule. So how's it been for you? You know, we're surviving over here, you know, just trying to give the people an escape from whatever it is that might be bugging them out, you know? Yeah, yeah, respect. And I'm happy to be here and be part of that. I feel like that is what SNL does too. They're like you know what we're gonna make everything that's going on in the world that is stressing people out we're gonna make it funny and we're gonna make you

laugh at it. Yes that is that is a big giant part of the goal. I got a text from someone last night who lives in LA pretty late last night and they were like hey hope you're doing well I want you to know that the cold open made me laugh and I haven't laughed in days So thank you for that. It's just like and that's why we do it. Yeah, that's why we do it Yeah, it was it is funny when you guys can nail the we don't talk any politics on this show But when you guys get into it and kind of get both sides so to speak to begrudgingly laugh I think we can all agree that if nothing else

It's all kind of nuts and crazy when you guys bring some humor into it. It makes everyone feel at least a little better, I guess. Yeah, I didn't know how the writers were gonna pull it off, but they did. They did, and at least one human being told me they love laugh, and so I'm job mission accomplished. I'm always trying to make at least one person feel joy. That's my whole thing. We make more than one.

Yeah. So I think we can do that. I love very much of that. It was really great. Thank you. Thank you guys. Mary over here is a huge, huge, huge fan of S&L and you as well.

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Yeah. Huge fan. Oh man, thank you. Yeah. I did love the cold out there. We heard you're a big fan of the Grammys. Well, I don't know if I'm a big fan of the Grammys. I'm very invested.

Do you want to say thank you to Beyonce right now? I would love to thank Beyonce. I am there are a few things that pop up in the news, specifically in pop culture and entertainment news that I go, oh, I need to see what's up with that. I was at work and the Grammy Noms list came out and I was like, I got to find the list and I got to see who's on it because I was very invested in music

this year. I mean, I like music a lot in general, which is not a unique fun thing. So what are your big takeaways? Are we going to go chapel or is it Serena? Are they going head to head? Serena, Serena, Serena, Serena, Serena or chapel. You know, they might, they, I think this is going to be a tough year because there were some real bops this year and some real hits. And if we're going based on popularity, some people really broke

through this year. I'm guessing Sabrina. Sabrina had this mainstream appeal in a way that I'm like, you couldn't get espresso out of your head even if you tried, even if you didn't know the words. I posted a video to my Instagram story or a series of videos to my Instagram story last year asking all my castmates to sing the lyrics of Espresso, just the chorus. It was the week Sabrina was the musical guest at SNL and basically no one knew the words. So, but we all knew the melody. So I feel like Sabrina, it might be Sabrina, but I was really curious to see who was gonna get record of the year in terms of,

I was big fan of Kendrick's, the way Kendrick approached this beef. He really brought rap beef back and I wanna see him win something. I wanna see the man win something. Like how do we think Drake is feeling about Kendrick absolutely eating him up? He's not okay. You know, I don to see the man when feeling about like Kendrick absolutely eating him up. He's not okay You know, I don't think he's okay. I think he's good. Okay, but I don't think he's okay

He couldn't possibly be um, what am I? He couldn't possibly be okay after that. I wouldn't be okay, but he is taking selfies still so that's something That's something he's's got that feeling. Indication, proof of life. It isn't proof of life in anything. If people are talking shit about you and all you're doing is taking silent selfies, just to let you know you're wrong.

I don't think SNL helped espresso because I think it, I honestly made it worse with, I mean that, I think. Domingo. Yes, yes, that one I think was also stuck in everyone's head for weeks Domingo but that's the thing I'm like I think that's gonna there are people I feel like that discovered espresso via bridesmaids sketch and the Domingo of it all because I'd see comments like what

fill me in on what what's so funny here and part of it is that we're singing made-up lyrics but very I think that might actually you I forgot about that and that's how quickly the week before at work is erased from my memory I forgot we even did that I forgot that was mere weeks ago I think that that's gonna be the thing that sends I think that's gonna be the thing that gets espresso espresso an award I'm sorry I think that that's gonna be the thing that sends I think that's gonna be the thing that gets espresso Espresso an award. I think so too. It has to be I mean Domingo. Do you think we'll ever meet Domingo? We did we did he came out Yeah, I think he came out at the end

I didn't get there I just I just I think I turned it off. I think I turned it off because I was like this I this is literally replaying in my head. I have to get it out quick. That's many people's, I will say, favorite part of that sketch is when Domingo appears at the wedding and he's like, Kelsey's like my sis, but we did hook up though. That was so funny.

I have to go back. It's great. It's a really good sketch. It's awesome. Do you realize, I guess, in the moment when you're doing these sketches, like, oh, this is gonna be huge. Like, or are you like, I don't in the moment when you're doing these sketches, like, oh, this is gonna be huge? Or are you like, I don't know, maybe it'll land.

I'm more like, I don't know. I feel like whenever we do a sketch, there's no telling for us how an audience is gonna respond to it because there are things that our table read that absolutely kill, destroy, have us all erupting in laughter, applauding our cast mates, and then we put it up at dress rehearsal and the

audience is like, the fuck and so we have no real gauge on what people are going to like and how people are going to respond to it, let alone whether it's going to like pop off and blow up. And so that was one I couldn't have anticipated that. But then I go, I guess it is kind of like an earworm. I can like Monday morning, like what do they say about football? Monday morning quarterback? Cool, I'm just getting into sports now guys. Yeah, that's true.

Monday morning quarterback, okay. Monday morning quarterback it and go, oh, I see this is why this might've gone viral. But otherwise we're like, we don't know. And we're rehearsing it. Like one of the writers took a video of us rehearsing that sketch and doing the dance rehearsal. And I'm like, if I'd known this sketch was gonna be

such a big deal, I might've put makeup on for rehearsal and I might've wore a different outfit. I didn't know you were gonna post that video. You get to meet obviously a lot of different high profile celebrities. Have there been any ones that you kind of got more excited than others or felt like a surreal moment? Or you just kind of desensitized now that you get to meet

so many different people? Good question. I mean, I was very, I feel like I did like a double take and kind of like, oh my gosh, he's here when Eddie Murphy came to host. That was a huge one for me. Grew up watching him. It's obviously such a huge fan of his.

Amy Poehler was in the hall last week, and I was like, oh my God, Amy, because I think she's so immensely talented and also so incredibly kind and just such a jovial spirit. So that was very exciting. But by and large, at a certain point, I'm like, of course, I'm going to meet everyone. But there are people I want to meet that I haven't met. So I don't wanna act like I'm so chill about it. Do we have, can you wanna put out a vibe

just to put it out there who maybe you're hoping for? I've put it out a lot. I've put it out a lot. Jay-Z, I would love to meet. I wanna meet Jay-Z. I had a moment on SNL. Has he hosted ever? He was the musical guest of the premiere episode

this season before I got hired. Oh. Yeah, exactly. Can you even believe? Can you even believe? I go, what is this? But we have the big 50th coming up. And so maybe Hov will make an appearance there.

Maybe, maybe not. But that's somebody. I also, I mean, if I could meet Barack Obama and Michelle Obama, that would be pretty tight to say I did that. I was in the same room as Michelle Obama this summer. I know, hi. And I was so close. Babylonteller.

Yeah, I've met Barack. I did. I met him. I did. I met him. We went to this. I don't remember the exact. I think it was getting creators to vote or I don't know,

but there was like no plan of Barack being there. It was like not mentioned at all. They were just like, we need everyone in the back room. We're going to do like a toast. And it was like, I have to pee. And they're like, no, no, no, no one can go to the bathroom. And we're like, okay. And he walks in like so suave and he's just like, oh my God.

And he was like, it's so great to meet you. He like reached through a crowd and shook my hand. It has been, I haven't washed my hands. No, it was truly, it was magical. It was very magical. And he said that he wanted to meet you. I was like, that's a weird time to bring her up. Okay, cool.

That's so crazy. How long ago? And then the year was like 2016 before I was ever on. That's a few months ago. This is a few months ago. This is, yeah. And he was like, I'm obsessed with you. And I was like, okay, I mean, I want to talk about me,

but sure, I guess we can talk about her. Yeah. Have you always been- I wish that were true. It's true, it's true. Have you always been so great at impressions or is this something that has come later on in life? Thank you for saying that.

That is a kind of compliment. I think I started with me doing impressions of my mom and my aunts and uncles. I would just mimic the way they spoke. I'm first generation Nigerian American, and so I would mimic the way they spoke if they said something, and then they'd all laugh at me mimicking them.

Of course, I had no idea, even into adulthood, early adulthood, had any idea that that would be translated into my career and work at all. But that's when it started, I would say. I feel like I could do an impression of many people for like 10 seconds maximum. And then when we start to get into like, I think Jamie Foxx is like a master impressionist

and I'm obsessed with the way he approaches impressions, I could never do what he does. But it started with, thankfully, my family being good sports, but I'm making fun of them. Um, yeah, that's where they were. They were very good sports. And I have to say, another person that was surreal to me

is freaking Dionne Warwick, who is an impression I've done on the show. Dionne, Miss Dionne, Miss Dionne, she's incredible. Um, that was really, really special. And then to sing a duet with her, I was like, what is even happening? Pinch me. Yeah, how is that to do impressions of someone

and then to meet them? Are they like, you know, I didn't think I sounded like that. Or are they like, you crushed this? Well, you know what? Okay, so my friend printed this out for me and framed it. But it's right after I did the Dionne Warwick talk show for the very first time, the next morning Dionne tweeted, like, you did a wonderful job, baby, you're a star.

And my friend printed that tweet for me. It's on my vanity in my bedroom. So I was so grateful that she embraced the impression. But I get the sense every once in a while, and not with me, because I don't do a ton of impressions, but I get the sense every once in a while that I'm like, someone doesn't acknowledge the impression that was done of them on the show and is like, oh, they hated it.

But I don't know that that's true. Maybe they just don't give a fuck. But in my mind, I'm like, if they don't acknowledge it, they kind of hated it. But I don't worry too much because I don't do too many impressions. And thankfully, that was one where I was like, I hope she knows this is done purely out of love. And she was being very funny on Twitter at the time. It was of the moment in that way.

Do you still have to do impressions for your SNL audition? You can do whatever you want with that SNL audition. They give you five minutes and it's your you can like a lot of the people in the cast who are standups did like five minutes to stand up. What did you do? I did not do stand up. I did not do stand up. I did characters. I did an impression of my mom, of course, and her having a meltdown about me saying I wanted to be an actor. I did at the time LeBron James,

I promised schools were in the news big time. And so I did a character, an original character that was a mom who was in the principal's office and basically like, hey, I've been trying to get my son in trouble so I can meet principal King James. When does King James get involved? Because basically she's a groupie. And then I did a 911 operator who was telling everybody's business. So she'd take the 911 call and then be like, okay, hold on. And then call a friend on her cell phone and be like, so they have in trouble. And then girl, girl, I just called up to the girl. I just got a gun.

Basically that I've done that on the show. I would love to. But then I did. God, what else was a thing? I'm blanking. I did my angel. Because also my angel is like my impression of Maya Angelou informed, I hope this isn't offensive, I've said it a few times but I hope it's not offensive, informed my impression of Dionne Warwick because I think they have like, they share a tone. I'm rubbing my fingers together. But there's like they share, they share some musicality in their voices.

So the five minutes also flew by. People were like, did you see Lorne? People ask all the time, they're like, did you see Lorne? Did you see who was in your audition? I was like, nope, didn't look over at them one time. They're like, not in front of you, they're off to the side and they're like taping your audition.

So yeah, no standup for me, but shout out to those guys because I feel like that's incredibly brave as well. How long do they make you wait before you get feedback? Did you feel good about your audition? Did you kind of have to sit for a few days and wait? What was that like? I was in an incredibly anxious place just generally in life and I was, I had moved out of my apartment in LA very abruptly like weeks before because there was a roach in my apartment. And so I moved, which is what a normal person does. To New York. It's crazy.

I was more like, I want to sign a lease. I want to get an apartment, but I can't get an apartment because I'm waiting to hear about this thing. And so basically right after the audition, I felt good. I heard laughs, but I was like more like, just someone tell me I'm not getting this job so I can sign a lease. I'm like couch surfing right now and I'm not enjoying it. So then I got a call after or a text maybe, maybe it was probably a call that was like, the producers want to like

grab a drink with you. So then we arrive at these drinks and we see who else got invited to drinks and it was like maybe four other people like Bowen, Chloe, there's another girl who later got hired as well, Lauren. We got drinks with the producers and then after that was a waiting period, if I'm not mistaken. I think I went back to LA and then I was couch surfing still and I was like, anyone just call me today and tell me I'm not getting it so I can go get this apartment in Studio City. So arbitrarily decided I want to live in Studio City, by the way,

I was like, I think I'm a Studio City gal now. I think I've graduated, but it was like weeks after because then they were SNL was producing to Emmys that year. So they were consumer that not worried about who they were going to hire weeks long limbo. And then I think I found out I got the job on like a Wednesday and I moved on Thursday. And then I went on on Friday to get an idea and then work started Monday. And so it was very, very, what a shock to us to your system. It was very abrupt. I was truly, I kid you not worried about signing a lease for an apartment because I was tired of being on my friend's couch. When you went into this drinks with producers, was there an I mean, I obviously you are just

naturally funny, but is there a underlying pressure of like, I got to make these fuckers laugh so hard? You know, no, so I know, because I think in general, um, I don't try to be funny. And in fact, when I'm like, if I'm going to like ghosts, if I'm going to go like get a drink with someone, I'm going to go to dinner with someone. I am not the comedy person who's like, and I'm here to crack you up. I'm more like, what are you scared of?

And tell me what's going on here. And so I'm not. And when I being out with comedians, sometimes I'm like, OK, people, we understand everyone's funny. Can we just be for real for a second? So no, I was not trying to make anyone laugh. And again, cannot you ever been so anxious that you're just kind of out of body? I was the couch surfing was really getting to me. I was so anxious that I was like, someone's telling me to go to drinks.

No problem. I'm going to go to drinks. You're like, can I sleep on the couch in the restaurant tonight also? Yeah, since it's a restaurant, I still have a couch for me and maybe I can get some of my things out of storage. And so I was not, I feel like I was not fully present. I think I turned to Chloe at one point and I was like, do you really want this job? And she was like, yeah.

And then she's like, you? And I was like, yeah. But I was like, I'm thinking about the cow. So anyway, I saw I was I was so I don't I was not trying to make them laugh I'm like you just got to go be yourself and in general I do try to Especially just having one-on-ones or intimate if I'm not performing if I'm not on a stage or I'm not being asked to perform I'm generally just trying to be a person who then I guess maybe makes people laugh sometimes, but definitely not going for it.

It's so funny that you say this. I would love to hear your take on the Ryan Reynolds, Martha Stewart, where she was like, he was my neighbor, he's not funny. And I was like, he's not performing as your neighbor, he's taking out the trash. I believe her. He was taking out his, he's trying to live his life.

That's Funny okay. I just started watching the Martha doc last night Well past my bedtime. It's like guys. It's like 1 30 a.m. I was supposed to go to sleep at 11 p.m but then I found myself just like Being an adult is fascinating cuz I'm like I guess I'm supposed to put myself to bed because I know I need to wake up At a certain time, but I can never rarely can I do it or it's 50-50 And so last night it was like not happening and I was like I'm gonna start the Martha Stewart

Documentary at a at 1 15 a.m. And started I'm gonna watch How far did you go? I'm sick. I think I got I got to the point where am I allowed like I don't know timestamp but I can tell you it was like after she what I remember is like cheating on her new husband and the producer asked about her and she's like, whatever. Did I do that? Whatever. I can't. Yeah. After like, yeah, was it fun or infidelity? And she was like, it was neither or no, it was like it was an infidelity or another thing. And. After like, yeah, was it fun or infidelity? And she was like, it was neither or no, it was like it was an infidelity or another thing. And she was like, neither.

It wasn't infidelity. It was a moment everyone should have. I think she says that's what she said. God, I love her. I was like, I didn't know Martha was such a bad bitch. I had no idea. I was like, whoa, Martha. And then her quote about,

okay, if you wanna be happy for a year, get married. If you wanna be happy for 10 years. I woke up this morning, could not remember what the 10 years was. And then if you wanna be happy for a lifetime, you gotta get a garden. But what was the 10 years? I don't, anyway.

I think it was a dog. A dog, maybe. It was a dog. A dog, a dog. It was get a dog. It was get a dog. It was a little morbid. Did she lie though?

No, Martha is a baddie. It was get a dog more busy. Did she lie though? No Martha is a baddie she was like Dominating like the New York like Wall Street before she got into like bake goods It was kind of insider trading never hurt nobody. She was wrong Yeah, that's some bullshit But also if you I bet if you ask her when I saw the thing about the infidelity and her going like no That's not what that was. It was a moment. Everyone should have I was again. That's how far I got in the dock kind of fell asleep I was like can't wait to hear them ask her about the insider trading because I'm sure she

Everybody insider trade once in a while everyone is but I think people do isn't that the word on the street don't don't they? Insider trade I yeah, but aren't people? I don't know. They all do. Yeah, but aren't people doing it? It seems like a lot of people in power get away with it a lot. I think they teach you how to do that when you become rich. That's like the first thing they do. Yeah, that's what I thought.

So I'm like, she's not wrong in that way, maybe. When you're not watching a Martha Stewart documentary, what are some other guilty pleasures you enjoy binging? Okay, I'm an OG love is blind girl. I like watching a Martha Stewart documentary. What are some other guilty pleasures you enjoy binging? Okay, I'm an OG love is blind girl, but I know it's now just, I think, or I'm understanding from friends that it might just be a bunch of people

who wanna get on TV now, but I missed the experiment. Cameron and Lauren, they are the one success rate, or maybe there's like two or three but If you know love is blind, I've been going to the movies lately, which I haven't done in a very long time like years We're talking gears. I have not like really been on a movie kick. And so I saw my old ass Nora and smile too Yeah, and I weirdly my friend it was for my friend's birthday smile too And he like rented out a theater and he's like we're all gonna see smile, too

He's like you didn't have to see smile one it you'll be fine And then as a person who really felt like I haven't been to the movies in any meaningful way in years I was like wait should I did see smile one I saw smile one and the whole time I was thinking about how I'll still see bacon is my friend Jenna's friend It was very distracting I was was like, I didn't realize I was like Jenna's friend the whole time. So anyway, movies, I'm I'm into movies now, but also I'm kind of boring in that. In my free time, I like to read like what I'm entering my reading era. And what what what type of books do you like to read?

What what are you into? Erotic, erotic thrillers? No, you wish it were. It would be far more exciting if it was. I read, okay, there's this priest who runs the largest gang rehabilitation center in the world, certainly in Los Angeles. Father Gregory Boyle.

I read lots of his books because the way he sees life is really beautiful to me. And then I read books about how I should rest and what rest looks like and why it's important. I mean, I don't wanna be this girl. I wanna tell you I'm reading trash. Do you also like practice gratitude? Low key, I try.

I try to, but also I used to try to, well, I did used to journal. It helped me a lot and then I stopped because I was like, this also I used to try to, well, I did use to journal. It helped me a lot. And then I stopped because I was like, this is becoming tedious to me and feels like very dutiful as opposed to like soothing, if you will. It feels like a thing I have to do. And I don't like when things start to feel like things I have to do. I'm like, I'm, I'm out.

What are you currently reading? I have found an erotic thriller that I have to take breaks from because I can only read it once he's fallen asleep. And so it's very much and then I'm like, I either need to like immediately find something or I need to close my eyes and go to sleep because I understand it's a little crazy. You should find something and then go to sleep. It's lulls you right into sleep. Honestly, you're right, I should.

Yeah, next time, next time you read a chapter, I encourage you. Thank you so much. To find something. Treat yourself, you know? You know what, I should treat myself. Treat yourself. Well, wake him up, wake him up.

How late is it, how late, how late, how late? Yeah, what time, what time? What time is it? Are you a go to sleep early kind of man? Yeah, what time, what time? Are you a go to sleep early kind of man? Oh, as soon as his head hits the pillow, I'm like, let's watch a movie, and as soon as he's in the bed, he's asleep.

Like, I'll smoke that weed around eight, and then, you know. He's done, he's absolutely done. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You know what, I respect this. So, girl, you gotta find something.

You're gonna find something tonight, you're gonna read a chapter. I'm gonna get in the bathtub, I'm it. So you gotta, girl, you gotta find something. You're gonna find something tonight. You're gonna read a chapter. I'm gonna get in the bathtub. I'm gonna use the bathtub faucet, like back in the old days. Okay. What, going back to SNL, have there been any sketches that you loved

that have just been rejected or that have not made it, that you're like, fuck, please? Yes, one of them I did with Cecily Strong, I think twice or maybe once it was with Cecily once it was with the host. But is two door women at a club who are in charge of letting people in, but they can't read. So when you say your name, they're like, how do you? They ask you how to spell it.

And then because they don't really know letters either, they're like, OK, but like, what are the shapes of those like, okay. What do they smell like? Yeah, what do they smell like? Like, can you do them like YMCA style or whatever, but that has not worked for one reason or another. I love it. There's also this this girl who I was walking, basically I got in character for a pre tape

sketch. It was like one about, I don't know about a subway stop, I feel like two years ago or last year. And they gave me really long nails and I had like a crop top and like trashy sweats on. And I kept walking around while we were waiting to rehearse or waiting to shoot and say, pretending to be like an SNL super fan. And I was like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, it's my solo, Oh my God, how do you go? Whatever. And so Mikey and I ended like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, it's my solo, Janendo, oh my God, how do you got it? Whatever. And so Mikey and I ended up writing a sketch of that woman who was like super gullible and goes to see a medium who's getting everything.

He's saying the basics and I'm just like, oh my God, like I have a grandmother, oh my God, yeah, I got a dad too, oh my God. And so I would love to do her, but I don't know that it's gonna happen, but that was a very fun one. Then I'm like, we should let her live. Her name was LaTricycle.

Is there like, is it kind of like games of thrones in terms of like whose like sketches get picked up? Is there politicking or is it just funniest laugh wins? It's not funniest laugh. Yeah, no, biggest laugh does not win. There is politics involved. And so I guess, and I guess that's like to be expected if you're making a network television show

for a gigantic audience. So they have to take into consideration a lot of things. So there's some sketches I've seen at table that are like some of the funniest things I've ever seen that will never see the light of day on SNL. But our writing staff's very talented in that way. But yeah, no, there's a lot of consideration in terms of like, is this going to be

offensive to this group of people? And they don't let us in on that. You just kind of like over time, like we're not in the producer meeting after our table read going, like hearing why they picked a thing versus another thing or why they didn't pick the funniest thing at table today. But after some time you start to discern like, oh, I'm getting the sense like,

this sort of thing is too crass for them or this thing only like one person is funny and everyone else is kind of not, you know? And over this week, they need to like showcase this cast member because they kind of have been pretty know, and over this week, they need to like showcase this cast member because they kind of have been pretty blank the last few weeks. So yeah, there's a number of things

that go into deciding the show, but it is not solely the funniest thing, though that would be an interesting week. I'd be curious to see what a week like that on the show would be like, if it was like the 10, the whatever five funniest things are what's in the pie. Or they could like, you could just start like a late, late Saturday night, like a mixed sketches

that you guys put out like online. That's like stuff that didn't make the cut. Yeah. That'd be great. That would be, listen, they post-cut for time, but if they could like produce some of the funny ones, some of the funniest ones we've seen at the table read and turn them into, I don't know, like the SNL uncut. Can you guys ever see BT uncut?

Yes. Ever stumbled upon that by accident as a young person? Yes. Then watch it every night on purpose after that because you're fascinated. That was me. Have you ever seen the music video for Tip Drill, Nelly? No. What is it? Okay. So before you pick up your erotic book tonight, just watch, or maybe after, watch

the tip drill video, Nellie's tip drill video. It is fascinating. And I remember, like, it's another, you stay up too late and you put on BT and just you're like, Oh, I'm going to put on this channel. You go, Whoa, what's happening after hours here? It's fascinating. Watch. I encourage it. I just encourage everyone to watch. I'll do it. I'm gonna put on this channel you go whoa what's happening after hours here It's fascinating watch I encourage it. I just encourage everyone. I'll do it. I'll do it What is it like to work with Steph Curry on mr. Throwback? Oh the shit steps amazing. He truly is He's so he's so funny and down to play and I feel like such a fan of comedy

He was able to hang with me and Adam. He was on his shit and I loved getting to work with him. It was super fun. He also, so I was supposed to, I don't, I can't remember if they took this out, but I was supposed to have had a basketball career myself, my character, but like Adam's character ruined my basketball career with his shenanigans. And after I got the job, they're like, do you know how to play basketball? And I was like, not even a little bit. Like, can't I played on a basketball league? I told this story on Fallon, but I played on a basketball league. I was like the one black girl on this team.

And I was by far the worst. I was so bad. I didn't realize all the rules of basketball. I know what traveling is. I've heard. I know what that is. But I'm like the rest of it. I was out of my depth. I have to tell you the story when I, I played basketball and my dad was. The coach for like our rec league.

And yeah, I was like, well, I'm obviously the best. My dad's a coach. Like I'm the best there is. And, um, we were playing and it was like super tight game and. I got the ball and I shot in the wrong. You know, you switch, apparently you switched. I forgot about that. How you switched baskets halfway through.

And so like the winning shot, I shot in the wrong and the other team won and my dad like benched me and it was the saddest moment probably of my childhood. Oh, devastating. It was devastating. How old were you? I was probably nine years old. Maybe. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Scar for life. At least you can shoot though because I can't I can't shoot. Steph taught me how to shoot. Basically they realized like I couldn't

they like she can't play basketball. I think they took it out of my character because I was like oh no no I don't even know how to pretend. And they did keep in a scene which I thought was savage of them and I hadn't realized until I saw it on the internet. Oh, they kept this in. Me shooting air straight up air balls. We're not even close, right? And so Steph taught me how to shoot on the Today Show. And I was like, there's no way this man can teach me to shoot. And all these people around you and there's like an audience watching the Today Show when you guys were outside on the courtyard. He taught me how to shoot and I was like, I feel like someone's going to get hurt here because I'm actually really, really bad.

I don't even say that to be self-deprecating because it's funny. I'm actually remarkably bad. I want people to believe me. All the people who were sitting out there understood that immediately. But Steph was able to teach me to shoot and everyone's like, Oh, of course he's the greatest shooter. Like, of course he could teach you to shoot. I'm like, no, no, I'm genuinely that bad. And he was able to do it. I took four shots. He, there's a whole method, obviously, you know, cause you played, but I'm like, it's a, it's a thing and I was doing it so

wrong, but I got it. I made a basket. Have you played since? And so no, of course not. Why would you do that? Why would you keep up? Of course not. Why would I ever try? Yeah, exactly. I'm like, that's, it's like Jordan. I want to retire while I'm on top of the game. And so, no, I didn't. I was like, I'm good on, I'm good on playing basketball. Any reports on a season two for Mr. Throwback? We haven't heard yet, but we're hoping to hear very soon. We're hoping to hear very soon. I hear from Adam and the Libmans who are the creators

from time to time and they're like, we're creeping. We're creeping and hopefully any day now. So I would have loved to tell you guys first, but I don't even know. Had to ask. Is there anything you do want to tell us first? Yeah, anything you want to tell us first. SNL 50.

Poker face? I don't know. Even SNL 50 is happening in February. There's no real tea. I'm trying to think if there's something in my personal life I want to tell you first. Be the first friends to find out. I go from my apartment to work while we're in season. And so people ask me all the time, they're like, oh, how do you like living in New York?

And I'm like, no idea. I work in New York and that's it. I don't know what New York is, but no, there's no two. The 50th is in February. I don't even know who they're bringing, but I just imagine that's why I'm like, I hope Daisy's coming. Maybe Barack Obama will come and Michelle as well. I don't know who it, but yeah, they're planning a huge thing and they're not telling us, so.

If Barack does come, do you feel like there's like a party that wants to ask him about me at all or no? I will, absolutely, I'll be, absolutely. I'm gonna ask him about you and he'll remember. He also turned her down for a selfie though. He did turn me down for a selfie. After he shook my hand, I was like, I would love to take a you and he'll remember. He also turned her down for a selfie though. He did turn me down for a selfie. After he shook my hand, I was like, I would love to take a selfie.

And he was like, I can't do that. And I was like, okay, well, perfect. Now no one will ever believe me, ever. Wow. Yeah, but in fairness to him, he had to say no because he was gonna get mobbed afterwards. So like it was definitely. Yes, if he takes one selfie,

he has to take a hundred selfies. Self preservation, yeah. Yes, fair enough takes one selfie, he has to take a self preservation. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fair, fair enough. Fair enough. I'll get I'll get a selfie with him if he comes for you. We will Photoshop your face onto my body. I don't know if that's doing you a favor or not, but let's let's play on that.

You're so kind. Please. Thank you. You're so kind. Please. I'll just start posting your your body my face on your body. You're so kind. Yeah, please, thank you. You're so kind. Please. I'll just start posting your body, my face on your body. I'll just try that.

You're very kind. Do you know after the bridesmaids sketch, by the way, I got a couple of messages that were like, are you pregnant? And I was like, well, damn. And why would you say that? Was I giving hormonal? She's giving gut. She's giving guts.

She's giving guts. She's giving guts. She's giving Olivia Rodrigo guts. She's giving guts. And I was like, this dress, I had other things underneath that to get ready for the next sketch. And I was like, also, this dress is not built for that. I think I got to try on every one of those bridesmaids dresses in the sketch before the costumer,

I was the first one to go to my fitting and he's like, because you're first, you get first dibs. And the thing is none of them looked right on me. And so I just kind of was like, F it, let's take whatever this is. But I feel like that's also in true bridesmaids fashion. Like the bride is always gonna pick the ugliest shit for her friends to wear.

Yeah, they're all gonna look pretty atrocious. And velvet is not for doing. Did you do that? Wait, did you do that at your wedding? No, of course not. Lies. No, I said, you know what? I said, y'all pick, I was gonna go with a pale yellow,

and then I said, that's fucked up of me to ask people to wear pale yellow. So I did tell them they could wear any dress in black. Okay, any dress in black, okay. Which is like pretty given. And how did they show up? Were you pleased? Were you pleased with how the girlies look?

I was pleased. I had to have a serious talking to with my sister who exclusively only shops on Amazon. And I was like, unfortunately you cannot wear this dress that is from Amazon to my wedding. You're gonna have to like go into a store and like try some on and actually put some effort into this. Emily.

Yeah. So that is how that went. But I've been in several weddings where I'm like, you fucking hate me. Why am I in, why am I standing beside you? I know, you know what, well, here's my thing. Don't you want, I've never had a wedding, I've been in weddings, I've never planned a wedding, but I'm like, don't you want, I've never had a wedding, I've been in weddings, I've never planned a wedding,

but I'm like, don't you want everyone to just look bomb.com or not like, I'm gonna look bomb.com in my white dress, you're gonna look bomb in your, like, isn't that cool? I don't get that. But I had a friend, she was cool, she let us all pick our own dresses,

but it was like color palette. We got the color palette assignment. It wasn't like one color, but in this world. And that was nice, because it was like, great. I got a dress that I will presumably wear again. But those dresses were for the bridesmaid sketch, I think a particular kind of hideous. It was like, these are fucked.

How do you think Lisa from Temecula would do as a bridesmaid? Do you think she would be into it? I think Lisa from Temecula. So we did a sketch where she goes to a wedding as a guest. Oh yeah. I was like for this one, because she's at a wedding, can she make, can she turn her current sweater into a dress? And so we made that sweater, her iconic sweater

into a dress, like put a skirt. And I think she'd wear that to someone's wedding as well. I think she'd wear that outfit in white to her own wedding. It's like the sweater with the- She knows her shape. She's really good at everything. Yeah. And she, yeah.

Convinced. She's my look. She's convinced in the year 2024 that that is the look and that is the vibe. She knows what she wants. Yeah, she can. She can do whatever she wants. Can you please show us your dog?

Can you pick up your dog and show me your dog? Yes, I actually want to show you. You know I want to do it because he's chewing something he's not supposed to. Oh, but guys, I'm going to be happy for 10 years or at least nine more. This is Chief. Oh, my. Oh my gosh. This is my buffs. This is Chief. This is Chief. He's chewing. What was he doing? He went in his toy basket. He I put up, I brought his toy basket down for him. I was like, he should be able to take whatever he wants out of here. I shouldn't police that. But what he wants is one of his little shoes that is not in fact a toy.

And he was just ripping that apart. He does want to let you know that he hates the shoes. Yes, he does. He does hate the shoes, by the way. That is a real thing, which is why they were in there. And I forgot they were in there because I tried to be like, do you guys have a dog? We have two. Two dogs. They get to sleep in the bed with you.

Jeff does, Steve's in the kennel. Okay, why is Steve in the kennel? Because he's so fucking bad, no, he is so bad. He, in the middle of the night, he is pulling out my makeup drawer and chewing up my mascara. But he's also, because he's still one years old, but lately we've left the door open

and he stays in the kennel. So we're opening it up for him to be freed. But we spoiled him at first because Jeff, our first dog was so good. He never did anything bad. And then baby Steve, we kind of let baby Steve do whatever he want and he quickly turned into a monster. So we had to backtrack, kettle train,

and now he's kind of a mom. I do need, I had a baby nine months ago, track, kettle train, and now he's kind of a mom. I do need, I had a baby nine months ago, and after you have a baby, you are in the most, the biggest, largest pairs of underwear you'll ever see in your entire life. And he had thrown up so many times, and I was like, oh my God, I have to take him to the vet.

And I took him to the vet, and the vet was like, what has he thrown up? And I called my mom, who was staying with with us and I was like yeah can you find that thing that he threw up this morning and send me a photo of it and she rolled it out and it was my large pair of panty that I had to then show the vet. And I was like and I will let you know I don't wear these usually. I'll explain it to you right now as to why he had this. I want you to know my underwear is actually quite attractive. Sexy, it's so sexy. It's all little tiny thongs.

This one. Wait, did you guys get a trainer for Jeff or Jeff was just good? But mostly he was just good. He was mostly good, but we had a trainer give us tips and tricks. Gotcha. And then with Steve trainer before trainer

We sent him to yeah, okay, okay? Okay, okay. Well I Chief is very good and so chief is chief is chief is a very good boy I want to let him sleep in the bed with me, but we live in New York and New York is Disgusting so that's where the shoes came. I was like well, maybe if you wear shoes sleep in the bed with me, but we live in New York and New York is disgusting. So that's where the shoes came. I was like, well, maybe if you wear shoes or like little, the little I can justify, but he fucking hates them.

And so that's out the window. But I do neurotically wipe his paws before he gets to run around. I mean, because it's nasty. Maybe you could put like a you could put like a dog blanket at the bottom of your bed and he could like stay on the dog blanket. So guess what? This week I tried to do that because this week was particularly rough. I go, I'm letting chief sleep in the bed with me tonight and I put a blanket.

It's actually the barefoot, you know, the barefoot dreams blanket. It's a nice blanket. I put the barefoot dreams blanket on my bed at the foot of the bed and I was like, you stay on here. And he stayed on for exactly five seconds. He's like, no, honey, I want to be on the duvet. Like this is, I want to be on the pillowcase. Yes, exactly. And he's like, it's not, it's not happening. So anyway, he doesn't get to, he doesn't get to sleep in the bed with me, but he's fine. He's like he's kennel trained and all and all the things. And honestly, I don't even know that he thinks being on my bed that exciting.

So I tried. My mom says that too. She's like, put him on the. And also, do you feel like he should get a friend? Maybe you guys can advise me here. Should he have a second dog? No, Nick got Steve when I was like seven months pregnant and was like, we have to have, Jeff has to have a friend because we're gonna have a baby and we're gonna neglect him. And definitely best thing for Jeff, worst thing for me.

And I have never gone through so many periods of my life where I'm like, I hate this dog and then he's good. life where I'm like, I hate this dog. And then he's good. And then I'm like, I love you so much. But it's like the way he's able to jump up on the counter and pull the stick of butter that is so far away with like his tongue or his nail is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

That's why, what kind of dog is Steve? They're like golden doodles, you know? And it's just rotten. Okay, Okay. I understand. I understand. I can't tell if I'm projecting on him because every time I look at Chief, I'll be like, is he bored? Sad? Like he feels so deep. And I'm like, are you okay? Is everything doing is are you do? Do I suck as the owner? Yeah. Maybe he should start journaling. What's that? He should start journaling.

Journaling. He should do a gratitude practice. A gratitude practice, yeah. Does Chief watch TV? Chief does watch TV. So I don't really watch a lot of TV, but I just was telling my mom this yesterday. I had a friend come stay with me a couple weeks ago, and I was at work on a Saturday, and she sends me a picture of her and Chief watching TV. He He's just posted up next to her and they are watching TV and does

not look like one of those pictures you take of the dog where it's like, well, they're still for 30 seconds. Like, let me try to grab this. It was like, no, they're chilling hard. And I was like, that's what's missing from his life. Honestly, that I don't sit and watch the TV. I'm like, I'm a weirdo. I wanna watch like the Martha Stewart thing I watched on my laptop. I have a big old TV and I was like, I'm gonna watch it on my laptop in my bed. Is that, are you, is that's insane?

People have told me that's crazy that I do that. I think you're not alone. I don't think you're as alone as your friends wanna make you feel. I do that all the time. The laptop just feels safer, I don't know. It feels more intimate. Yeah, it just feels cozy. Yeah, something about it feels cozy.

There's a show, I think it's on Disney Plus, and it's for babies, but they made it essentially for dogs as well because the only colors that the show is in are colors that dogs can see. And so it's like, yes, and I'm trying to figure out the name of it and I can't find it right now. But it's like we put it on for Jeff and he's obsessed with it. Like it's maybe Chief, if you like leave for a moment, maybe he'd love to watch TV. Maybe get on with his app.

Genuinely, when I get off of this record with you guys, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna go find, I'm gonna go find out what this show is. No, you need to. And put it on for him and see what it is. And see, do you guys watch this trash TV? All the time. Yeah.

What's your favorite poison? Well, we just finished recently Love is Blind. We really got into Love Island over the summer. We're big Housewives fans. Yeah, Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is the best show. Is Salt Lake City the star right now? Because when I was like cities. OK. It is Salt Lake City, the star right now, because when I was an OG.

OK, I was OG Housewives big time, like my favorite. So I was watching Atlanta. I was watching Jersey, a little bit of New York. I was obsessed with Jersey, obsessed, obsessed. We're talking to the judachay or is it judice now or is it OK? Teresa doesn't know her own pronunciation. Oh, she does. She's admitted it.

It's like five different ways. That's right. Yeah. OK. Great. Great. I obsessed and then I felt very bad. I stopped watching because I felt so bad that Teresa's family was falling apart. And so I stopped watching because I was like, I feel so, so bad. Like, I think it's because of this show. And so I felt guilty and like I was part of it.

But now I want to pick back up because I do hear Salt Lake is where it's at. I've also heard Potomac is. I've heard Potomac is very good. Potomac is so good this season. Yeah. Rihanna's favorite is Salt Lake City. Yeah. I think Salt Lake is one of the best shows to ever make.

Like I think it's like the best show ever. It's perfect. Do I need Salt Lake is one of the best shows ever made. Like, I think it's like a show ever. It's perfect. Do I need to start season one? So I start. So a few years when Salt Lake was first starting, I did start watching because people at work were talking a bunch about it. I was like, I want to I can probably return to the housewives. That was so fun.

And I remember someone smelled like hospital. Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, I guess someone smelled like hospital. Yeah. It smells like hospital. It smells like hospital. I think for me, I like to start my Bravo, like when I introduce myself to a new Bravo show, I like to start wherever it's at. Because Bravo's also famous for their flashbacks.

So you can start wherever, and then if you wanna add context, whatever drama they're having, they either have a flashback, or you can go back and binge on Peacock or whatever it is. I like doing that rather than starting from the beginning. This season specifically too, there's like new characters and we're not really doing callbacks to like past stuff,

so I think starting at this current season, you'll be completely fine. Yeah, you'll be totally fine. So at Lake City you start at season three because you have to see Jen Shaw flee the FBI, which is season two. Yeah, Jen Shaw's FBI are incredible television. Yeah.

Yeah, okay, okay, great. There's also only five seasons, so it's like not that much to watch. It's not too much. Here's the thing. Shout out to the Housewives, though, who are committing federal crimes and on television, it's like their own volition.

Literally. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm deeply fascinated by that. I feel like this could be a sketch. It's like they, right, and they're like on TV and they're like just bragging about all their diamonds and their massive house and all their Chanel, and it's like, yeah. They're like, I swear about all their diamonds and their massive house and all their Chanel. And it's like, yeah. I swear I pay my taxes.

Yeah, I just like, what is, I remember, do you guys remember, gosh, Teresa buying the house but then they couldn't furnish it because of whatever was going on with whatever federal charges she and Joe, Joe's deported, right? Yes. He lives in Italy. Yeah, he lives in Italy.

Not a bad place to get deported. Not one of the words. And then Teresa got to take a picture with Taylor Swift. So, you know, is it all worth it? Is it all worth it? I think maybe it is. She got super ripped in prison. She did or Joe did?

She became a bodybuilder. For a minute. She did. Oh my gosh, Teresa. I got to do Watch What Happens live with her and I was a little starstruck. I was a little like, I can't believe I'm getting to meet her. And I think I felt like Teresa had a little bit of stranger danger up top because I was a little like, I can't believe I'm getting to meet her. And I think I felt like Teresa had a little bit of stranger danger up top. Because I was like so out of the loop on what was going on with the housewives at the time

I did this episode with her was like a couple years ago. And it wasn't until after I was like, oh, I think a lot of people seemingly don't fuck with her. And I didn't maybe she was like guarded because she was like, am I one of those ones who don't? But I'm like, I don't know the latest. But yeah, I got to do that with her and it was a dream. I was like, I can't believe I'm getting to do this with freaking Teresa herself, who flipped the table.

Prostitution whore. It's changing. If you love Teresa, she's on this current season of House of Villains and her and I love New York, Tiffany Pollard are about to go toe to toe in the next episode, I'm obsessed. Okay, okay, I will have to watch. I will have to watch,

cause I was a big I love New York fan. Yes. Truly. Do you guys see that? Every time I see the meme of her on the bed with her arms crossed and pouting, Tiffany, I'm like, it's always perfect every single time.

Yes, it encompasses the mood perfectly. There's no misuse of that name. Yeah, she is an icon and she is a legend. No, ever. Okay, I need to see those two go toe to toe because I'm like, I don't know who's going to win that battle because Teresa's savage and she'll never let you forget she's from Paterson, New Jersey, which meant nothing to me until she said it so much. I'm like, that must be the hood.

But I'm scared of Patterson, New Jersey. I was like, I all of a sudden know I should be scared of Patterson, New Jersey. I'm going to watch. Thank you very much. I'm watch Martha talk her shit tonight and put on bluey. It's bluey Bluey bluey people talk about like adults talk about bluey all the time like adults who don't have children It's a thing for their dogs having a moment, but I Think I know I'm not I'm I'm not necessarily I'm not an animated girl. I love my like I that's why I do I did love the house of clubs because I am very like let me see what's actually happening in people's lives whether it's a little scripted or not I'm like let's see what's going more staged

than scripted I feel more staged correct yeah did you guys I used to I mean this my love affair that I've since fallen off from with reality TV did start with Laguna Beach. Yes. That was my... That's where I started too. That was Laguna Beach was it for me. Man, I was obsessed. Elsie, Kristen. Elsie. I remember, I can't remember.

Stephen. Whitney was the Hills. Yes. What was, gosh, I'm trying to remember the time. I thought this was so funny. It's probably so wrong now. So bear with me and meaning wrong. But someone like somebody's boyfriend and then was like apologizing for it. And then in the apology, whoever they were apologizing was like, say you're a slut.

Say you're a slut. Say you're a slut. MTV reality. For just one episode of something, I want them to go back and I want them to just do what we used to do in the early 2000s and just see what happens. Just see what happens. Put it out there. Yeah. Get the jersey to her lisp. We used to really let some shit fly, I will say. It's true.

I'm like, there are so many things we were just like, wow, that's crazy and laugh about it. And now we're like, that's terrible. But I just thought that that was wild. I was like, well, she's apologizing already, in which I feel like it takes. Yeah, say your slut. Say your slut.

She's like, I don't wanna say I'm a slut. I'm saying I'm a slut. She's like, I'm practicing gratitude. I cannot say that I'm a slut. I'm a slut. I'm working on myself. But yeah, anyway, I'm going to guys, you got me. I'm going to, I'm going to get it. You have work to do. I have work to do. Can you believe? And a journal to journal in. I want to journal to journal in I want to know what happens I need to know what happens in your book And after or before you watch tip. I just need to know what your typical experiences. Let me know I don't know. I'll keep you updated for sure. I'll send videos or pictures

voice memos or something No No, I voice memo worse to me? I go no, no, not a voice memo. Please no. It's always like you can always like hear. Do you say hi first? No, it's always like, okay. Like you're out of breath for some reason for doing the like voice memo and it's like, why are you so out of breath? Why are you breathing so hard? It is true. Just walking and doing a voice memo always. It like sorry. I'm just I'm just walking down there I'm just like why does it sound like it's very serial killer every time it's always very

Keeps it you're like why'd you keep that yeah, you know I know I love to keep a voice memo to stress someone out It's awesome. I keep them too. I've kept them someone were like I'm not even particularly close to you're about to do a job and They were talking about someone it wasn't even bad it was basically like we're getting a lot of money to do this job like let's rob this like air quote rob this bank and I was like I kept the note and then I immediately was like, oh my god, we're not that close I just like keep the notes. I just I do this. I always do it's a default reaction I'm not gonna like play this for anyone while you while you basically say this job I

Need your reaction to just save it, but I do say it into I never play them back I don't know I save all of them. I keep all of them They delete themselves and I think you never know if you get to it right away, whether it's gonna go away or not. And I feel like that created the habit of people saving it because they were like, you weren't sure how much time you had to listen to said note.

So I just like, it created a lot of uncertainty. And now everyone has blackmail on each other. Everybody has blackmail. But yeah, never leave a paper trail, but now we're just like leaving the girl voice evidence of ourselves. We're all basically wearing wires Yeah, what is the Dorinda quote she's like say it forget it write it regret it isn't what she said Something yeah An up that's the's the updated, the updated like, gangsters.

We had so much fun chatting with you and we hope that you'll wanna come back and after you do your homework obviously and give us some more hot takes. I will, I will do my, guys, you're setting me down a path and I'm here for it. Yeah, yeah, that's what we're here for. I had some trouble with you guys.

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and they get to tell me their tea. I don't have a relationship with my dad, it's born of this idea, and so they get to be my dad for a day. It's cute. Then I'm on SNL, and Saturdays at night, Pacific 8.30 PM, I believe. Yeah.

Eastern. Eastern. That's us. 11.30 PM. So yeah, those are. Yeah, Eastern. That's us. 11.30 PM. And so, yeah, those are the places and maybe in the streets of Brooklyn going to work. Yeah. All right, well, thank you so much.

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I'm glad we got Ego watching Salt Lake City. Yeah, I feel like I should publish my master sheet because I made you one for Salt Lake City way back when. And I'm sure you didn't look at it. But it has every episode that anybody should watch. I think it could change lives. Yeah, why don't you post it? But basically because season three is the best launching pad, like I said, but there are like little bits before.

So just for the audience, explain what you made. So basically, before when we first started talking about season four last year, I sent Nicholas, I was like, just in case you ever want to watch Solid City, here's, I think it was like six episodes to watch. When you were trying to get me to get into it. I was trying to get you to get into it, and it was like six episodes pre-season four to like make you want to watch it. And we got there. You did, I just had to pick up season four.

Yeah, neither of us have watched before season four. I have never seen Jen Shah get arrested. Season three is like the best season, but then season two has her being arrested. To watch Jensha get arrested on television and then spend an entire next season victimizing herself and just screaming at everyone is like the best television in the entire world.

Like she is evil. If you could ask Jensha one question, what would you ask her? Girl. What were you thinking? How question, what would you ask her? Girl. What were you thinking? How dare you? Do you feel bad? I would air-coder already here.

I would be like, do you feel bad for the people that you scammed? The victims. The victims. And then she'll probably victimize herself. That's the thing. I know if she goes back on Salt Lake City, she's gonna be like, I.

She'd be like, but do they feel bad for me? I'm a prison. Yeah, she's gonna find a way to victimize herself. She's gonna go back on Salt Lake City. Yeah, you think so? I think she has to. She's gonna be like, I. She'll be like, but do they feel bad for me? I need to prison. Yeah, she's gonna find a way to victimize herself. She's gonna go back on Salt Lake City. Yeah, you think so? I think she has to. She's gonna be like, you guys all betrayed me. She like, love everybody on the current season,

but it's like she made Salt Lake City the show that it was because she dominated the cast so much. I know, but I don't think we need to go back to that. Exactly, I think we're done. It's so toxic. I think we're done. It is, but like, good TV. I love Bronwyn. That was really good TV.

Do you want her back or do you think she'll come back? I think she'll come back too. I think she's gonna, but like good TV. I love Bronwyn. That was really good TV. Do you want her back or do you think she'll come back? I think she'll come back too. I think she's gonna Teresa Giudice it. I don't know. Or Erika Gerardi, Erika Jane, she's still on Beverly Hills and people love her. Not to get no what Teresa did, but I think it's a lot different

stealing from the government and stealing from old people. Yeah. For sure. And Jen is a criminal. In terms of like the audience's appetite for forgiveness. I also don't think there is anyone she could replace that we would be okay with. I mean, Bronwyn carried this episode.

I love her. The fight between her and Lisa was so petty, but also she ate, yep. Yeah. When Bronwyn specifically said, she was like, "'Heather's saying Bronwyn said this, "'you're saying Bronwyn said that, well Bronwyn says.'" Yeah.

And I was like, eight? And it was like whenever she came back from the bathroom and caught Lisa calling Heather, it was like she caught her child trying to sneak candy at it. You know, it was like the way that Lisa- Shopping at her credit card or something. Yeah, and the way that Lisa was like, oh no, I was just calling to say that I missed her. And it's like, that's not why you called. You called because y'all were arguing about why she wasn't there.

And it was, right? Like, let's rest the case. That was a vindictive move. 1000% because- Lisa Barlow was being vindictive? All she had to do was go to her room, bring Meredith with her and call Heather. She wanted to do something.

Exactly. Lisa's infamous for like testing people's like tolerance. It's iconic. And seeing what she can get away with. But then also acting like I did nothing and you're accusing me and that's- The switch up was wild. Cause then she goes, I don't't wanna be in the middle of this.

And it's like- You started it. Don't you start the argument we're talking about. I also will say I love Bronwyn. I love everything we've seen of her, her relationship, her family, her dynamic, everything so far. I didn't love the conversation that she had with Todd

post Lisa fight. It felt very like dad getting on to, like it was like he was scolding her, she wasn't, like she was looking down. It was a conversation, yeah, it wasn't a conversation, it was just him being like, I'm not putting up with this, this has to end, like I'm done, she's like, okay. It was the night in Shining Asshole situation.

I will give him credit in the sense that I am like, they just paid what, for a private jet, a $20,000 a night place, and you're coming here starting drama on our wedding anniversary? He was somewhere else right before too. He flew here just to fly with you guys. Yeah, she had to put on a whole costume to go pick them up at the airport. Now they're at the mess.

He also said, he said before, he was like, I don't want anything to go down on this trip. If it does, they're leaving or I'm leaving. Okay. So he made the ground rules. I love it. We're filming a TV show. We're filming a TV show. I love it.

That's one of my favorite parts of Housewives is when people are like, we're not gonna fight on this trip. If there's any fighting, you're leaving. It's incredible. I think he's a good house husband because I think him being like, she needs to leave or stop. And then he went in front of the camera to talk to John to be like, you need to tell her.

That was so funny. John was just drinking his Fresco. Do you think the husbands enjoy doing these scenes or do you think they're begrudgingly doing it? They used to film more scenes. They used to have a ton of scenes like almost every other episode. I was just drinking his fresco. Do you think the husbands enjoy doing these scenes or do you think they're begrudgingly doing it? They used to film more scenes. Like they used to have a ton of scenes like almost every other episode of The Husbands.

But even like this episode, like I feel like Todd, no, but like Seth loves. Oh, he loves. Oh, he's typing in the bathroom. The whole bathtub. I absolutely love the broadwin and Todd thought, you know what, we're gonna do some jewelry shopping in front of our friends.

While we're on vacation. And we're gonna buy like a $5 million. It was a flex. And they're so, they're like real rich. This is the type of housewife I want. I don't want Lisa Barlow like 18 different jobs and just hustling people and like, is she in debt or is she rich?

I don't know. I do wanna know. Brawins rich rich. That's a real PJ. They're flying. Who do you think is richer? Her or Heather she rich? I don't know. I do wanna know. Brawn's rich rich. That's a real PJ they're flying. Who do you think is richer, her or Heather Dubrow? Hmm. Brawn. He's tech.

He's tech money. He's a tech daddy. Old tech money too. Old tech money too. Yes, the guy invented Palm Pilots. That's like kind of the person who invented the iPhone in back in the day. He's the Todd father.

Yeah. Todd father. The Todd father. I will say Brawn is getting a little bit of flack after this episode of like, and I don't think so, I love Brahman, but people are saying like she's being elitist and like, cause she had a lot of-

Thank God. That's what the show is. But she had a lot of soundbites of like, well, I'm buying your friendship now, or like, you know, like those different comments of like, you're gonna talk to me when I just paid for you to go on a private jet. It's like valid maybe.

Like is she weighing the money above like someone confronting her? I think she should make them feel poor. I think that these women need to feel poor once in a while in their lives I agree, I love Brahman That's here's the thing like they do need to be humbled be like you're not all shit Lisa Barlow and Brahman's like sweet But she's also direct and whatnot so I'm like it's also all of these Qualities that some of the other women just don't have and you want to flaunt your wealth Yeah, look at Brahman by a 1.5 million dollar

I love it when a rich person has to feel bad about not having as much money as they thought. It's incredible. Also, Bronwyn can still have fun and take herself not too seriously. Somewhere along the line, Lisa Barlow forgot what a joke was. Right. Did y'all understand Seth's comment

of you judge a straight man by their wives? No. I watched it twice. I did watch it back, because then Todd goes, well, I'll double you back. The wives by their wives? No. No. I watched it twice. I did watch it back because I was like, because then Todd goes, well, I'll double you back. Like the wives, something about their coverage. Because they're like, they out-kicked their coverage. And then Todd's like, they out-kicked their coverage.

It's like, of course he's saying that he's a billionaire. Out-kick your coverage is like a very like common thing. What does that mean? It's like we married someone who's hotter than us. Out of your league. Yeah. So it's not the same. That's not the same.

But the, you judge a straight man by their wife. I didn't understand that. The weird part was because also Meredith was the one that started the rumors about Angie Kay's husband being gay. So it was like, are you saying that to just make him feel more comfortable, but then it's also spotlighting him indirectly? And then he's like, cheers. Yeah, but Todd was quick to be like, you know, guys,

I actually am really super rich and you guys. Well, was it Lisa who wanted us to know that her husband's a CEO? Yeah, it was her. It was like, he doesn't care about Justin, whatever, he's a CEO. Like, we'll be fine going to this. It's like, what does that even mean?

This trip because he's a CEO. It's giving Danielle in last season to Summer House and she was like, I created Appness as a CEO. I don't care if she's crying. Right, yeah. I was like, I'm a CEO and it says CEO. I don't care if she's crying. Right, yeah. I was like, I'm a CEO, I watch Housewives. Like what, like. And I don't make people cry, I have a thought.

How do we think Heather, I mean, she wasn't in this episode at all really, besides the like. FaceTime. I missed Mary. I missed Mary too. Thanks for saying that. Yeah, why couldn't Mary come? She's spending the weekend with her son, Questioner?

Her son. Her son lives in the bedroom. Oh my god. That was her and Robert Junior. She did try but with excuse. Yeah, it was. She said it as a question. She was like, I'm spending the weekend with my son.

Yeah. Literally anywhere else but beyond that trip with you guys. Thank you. I do want to know more about Mary's family, though. Yeah. The dynamic now because I feel like it's changed. We don't see Robert Senior on camera. But then the son lives there, but it just stays in the room.

Robert Junior being married, yeah. And then Mary not acknowledging quite that they're married is so interesting to me. When they don't invite a housewife on a trip, like they didn't invite Heather, cause like Mary's just Mary. Yeah. Don't they usually like flash back to like Salt Lake

and like, you know, follow like whatever, like Heather, for example, just being bored. You're right, so in the next episode or two, it's bound maybe to have an episode of Mary and Heather going to lunch, or Heather going to lunch with someone else, to be like, how do you feel about not, with Brittany, there you go.

I watched the after show, and it was really interesting. It's good this season. Heather's obviously like, of course I miss my friends, and I'm so glad that they called me, because I wanted to know if they were thinking about me or just thought that it's okay if I'm not a part of the group. And then they go to Brittany and Brittany's like, I didn't even get a call.

Can I say something? I missed Brittany this episode. Yeah. I love that. I really did. I just felt like I wasn't getting enough of Brittany's terrible life choices, you know, and I really missed that. Give us the drama. Yes.

I feel like there's more to her life. Like the kids and all of that. I wanna know. I need more of's more to her life. Yeah. Like the kids and all of that. I wanna know. I need more of her conducting her friends in a living room. Stop talking. Yeah.

Until right now I didn't know she wasn't in the episode or on the trip. Oh, I admit. I did. I felt halfway through the episode, I was like, what is missing? And I was like, it's Britney. I like Britney.

Yeah. There is nothing more like Mean Girl like then talking about a trip you should go on while also on a trip that you're on when you had Browen setting up this trip She flies him on a PJ and then Lisa's sitting with Meredith and the husbands and they're all like we should go on Where should we go on our trip? That is the most mean girl Bullshit to be on the trip and then talking about a trip where you're clearly not gonna invite the other people

on the trip to this trip. I would have opened that door and then jump out. Can we talk about Lisa's take on Italian food being too fresh? Like what is that even? Who's talking? She doesn't cook. Lisa is Wendy from Wendy's.

She just learned how to use the George Foreman last year. Yeah, but to call, she's like, it's just too fresh for me. She may be baking or something. She can make a microwaved hot dog. I've actually heard from several people that the food in Italy isn't good. I've never been, I'm sure it is absolutely amazing.

It's good. I would crush. I like the pizza better here. If you're talking about people who go to Olive Garden for their Italian food, they will probably tell you that Italian food in Italy is not good. Okay, maybe don't throw Olive Garden astray. Some people have layers.

I've never been. This is Nick was serving up breadsticks. Yeah, I was, I know how the sausage is made at the Olive Garden. We need to talk about this at like sometime. I haven't been back since. I've never been. I do love his family meal.

He also worked at McDonald's. Oh, you did? My mom worked at McDonald's. See, that's character developing. Yeah, but he got fired for eating all the chicken nuggets. Oh, I did. No, that's not true. I did steal the chicken nuggets, but I developing. Yeah. But he got fired for eating all the chicken nuggets. Oh, I did. No. That's real as hell.

That's not true. I did steal the chicken nuggets, but I quit. Yeah. You did it after you quit or quit? No, like every time I would like walk back to go to the bathroom, I'd just like open up that chicken nugget jar and pop in a couple. You know? Do you think they had like security camera footage of you like?

They didn't have cameras back in the day. I want to see Lisa Barlow do one of those things where she like works at a Wendy's for a day. She's got to eventually Yeah, she's the queen of Wendy's sponsorships if you haven't seen so like imagine Lisa Barlow is taking your order I did find out that Seth is the SVP of merchandising and extreme value sourcing at Big Lots That's his job. Is that Meredith's husband Meredith's husband? Yeah, we could connect the dots and maybe think that maybe that's why he left the trip early is some Big Lots liquidation. Yeah, because it's not just Big Lots though. It's like multiple companies that he liquidates his current contract just seems to be under

Big Lots, right? Right, yeah. Interesting. But it is interesting because Meredith and Seth have been on the storyline before where it's like we're separated, you're never there for me, you're always working. And like Meredith at one point was like sleeping with other men maybe, it was unclear. And then now she's saying, well like,

it's feeling like Detroit again or whatever city she said. Yeah. But what's going on in Detroit? She might've said a different city, but like. They separated after they were having termites so that's the whole thing when they come back together in the first season, they kind of talk about their relationship repairing.

Yeah. Is this them introducing like storyline for Meredith? That's what I was thinking, that they might separate or divorce later on. It seems like if they're trying to introduce a storyline for her, that seems like it would be your bat mitzvah versus her marriage. Well, the bat mitzvah is still happening.

Yeah, but Meredith famously does not like people talking about her marriage. Facts. Yeah. Her husband's on the show talking about her marriage. Fact, yeah. So her husband's on the show talking about their marriage. I did think it was like, Seth had to know that he had to leave before the trip happened, right? I feel like he just saved that little bit in peace

for like the cameras once I got there and was like, okay, by the way. It did seem a little bit of like a stage. A stage. It did feel, this episode did feel a little produced, to be honest. I love it though. I was entertained. Is it because the husbands are playing along?

Well, we're not watching Salt Lake City for a real normal, relatable life. We're watching it for the characters and the scenes of you need to leave. I feel like Salt Lake City is almost a parody of Housewives and it's completely self-aware of all of it. That's what makes it so good, is that it's so aware of every single Housewife,

what is it? Tropes. Tropes. Yeah, it's aware of all of the tropes and it's just leaning in in this perfect, funny way that is incredible. I don't know, I'll be honest. I think Reunion, part one of OC was more entertaining than. Oh well, I'll never say that, but it was entertaining.

You'll never say that? Nothing's ever more entertaining than Salt Lake City. I agree. Well, I mean, overall, sure, but they have some slower episodes. For a first part Reunion. They definitely heard Nick on the Vile Files say they're gonna save that for the third part.

They were like. No, rearrange. Yeah, that's what they did. I was confused though, because I'm kind of like, what's gonna be in the- I was curious, like what are we gonna talk about for the rest of the episode? It was a good reunion though, that part.

Well, Lex is talking about that. Because then we had like the Katie of it all, like that was wild. Which I did not like whatsoever. Them coming after Katie for like what, wanting her to admit that at some point in her life, she like wasn't the best version of herself and like had to, like they were trying

to paint her as like this bad mother and it's like, why would you? They wanted to paint her as a Karen. They were equating the paparazzi rumor to like her past. But even then the giant contradiction of Heather bringing up this stuff where she's like, I don't like that people are digging up things on other people.

It's like, even if it's public knowledge, you know we haven't talked about it on the show. Yeah, she's platforming. I didn't even know. I didn't know any of that kind of stuff. She was like, they're talking about it on a blog. A blog? It gets everywhere.

No, it's not. Heather gets updates to her email from this blog because I didn't hear about it at all. And I follow so many Bravo pages. So that's Housewives 101, right? You talk about the rumor on the show and you bring the rumor from the deep internet or the blogs onto the show. And then you just kind of go after your castmates.

It just felt really gross that Emily is breaking down Katie's past and being like, why legal? Like why didn't you have legal custody of your kids? Well like, why didn't you, okay I get physical custody, but why you signed away your rights to your kids? It's like obviously she went through a bunch of shit. And like, she was homeless, she said. And she was not gonna make her kids be homeless too. It's like, why are you making her say all of this and relive this at a reunion?

Like, what are we doing? For me, it was giving that like Heather and Emily sat down and like read through the documents, dug things up just so that they can weaponize it in case something was said. At the reunion, yeah. My issue with like these kinds of reunions is I feel like there's so much stuff

that they're saving for the reunion that would be so much juicier and more fun if they would just say it on the show. Because on a reunion, it's like you say it, Andy's like, wow, anything else to say? They argue for a couple of minutes and then it's like, okay, let's move on. And I'm like, no, I wanna see this fester.

I wanna see this. This is the two episodes. I wanna see this like, I wanna see it go down the gossip chain and become 10 different things and have a big blow up. I don't want it like, you know what I mean? I feel like they're saving it. Yeah, but it felt like Katie really had no idea

this was coming. No. You could tell how uncomfortable she was in the moment. We're like bringing up something from a decade ago. Cause we went from the paparazzi to that. That's where we're saying like they thought it was gonna eat as like the same thing. And then Andy giving Heather and Emily the floor

to tell their side of the story, which was kind of fucking. Heather's like, I read all of the police's, I read, they spoke in the blogs, I read that. So like that's not what they're saying. So the police are lying? Which, I mean, her story, it didn't really make a lot of sense

because when she explained it happened all on the interstate, she pulled off, he got behind the car, and then Heather's like, well, no. It was at his house. It was at his house. And she's like, yeah, that is true, the neighbors. Well, I didn't see any neighbors. And it's like, well, I thought we were on the interstate.

So like, it's definitely confusing, but also who gives a shit? This was 10 years ago. Why are we bringing up something? Like you just need- Because you don't accuse Heather of calling it paparazzi. But it's like this like fake moral high ground

that they have because then in the finale when Tamara's trying to expose Shannon for digging up stuff about Gina and then still puts it on the show anyways, it's like Emily is like, no, you need to tell Gina right now because this is so shitty for her to do. And then you both just sat there

and just unleashed all of this private information about Katie that like wasn't warranted, not necessary. I definitely think Tamra got the hint from the audience that she has been too hard. She's never been this quiet on a reunion. Silent. I forgot she was on the episode. No, she's like, I don't want to be toxic.

Well, once she kept saying like, I'm sorry, I knew. I'm like, I, I. And it was like, she was not really apologizing, but trying to sound like she was apologizing. So one foot forward. I guess. I guess. And I mean, I guess we'll see.

Emily made a good point of being like, Gina was able to forgive you, Shannon, are you able to forgive Tamara? And while I wish Tamara would have been like, listen, I am just sorry. Yeah. She couldn't say those words. So I don't really know what Shannon is forgiving her for.

What is more publicly embarrassing, being caught stalking your rival online or being caught promoting yourself with a Finsta? Do you know any of this? Break it down. So basically on one side, the first thing that Nick said, at an event that Katie wasn't invited to,

but other housewives were, Emily is sitting at this dinner table, her back to the camera, but on her phone, you can see her like- Her back to a fan. A fan. But on Emily's phone, if you zoom in, you can see that she's stalking Katie's page.

Is she stalking Katie's page, or did Katie just post something and she's going through her for you page on Instagram? It could have been anything. She was looking at her content. So I mean, there's a chance that within the five seconds someone took a photo. Maybe Katie called her and that she has, you know,

Katie's picture. Does Emily follow Katie on Instagram? Good question. She bet she does now. She's a quick follower. It is in a call profile though. So someone matched it up to something that Katie had posted. So she was looking at Katie's Instagram account,

whether it was on her feed or whatever. Let's see if she's following. I'm pro-lurking. She could be in a conversation with somebody and somebody was like, oh, so what's going on, or what's happening, da-da-da. And she's like, you have to see this girl that Katie's. You definitely stalk your rivals.

She does not follow Katie. So she somehow went out of her way to see this post. That's real as fuck. I gotta respect the game as a lurker. And the other thing is people are accusing Gina of commenting under her own post. So basically a blog posted a photo of like the OC woman and from Gina's account, we'll leave it at that,

from Gina's account there was a comment left that said, love my gal Gina, best daughter, best mommy, best friend, heart, heart, heart, heart. From her actual account. From her actual verified Instagram account. So she Maddie Pruitt-ed this. Maddie Pruitt-ed this? Is that the verb?

Maddie Pruitt? She famously did that. After her date with Peter, she commented on her page. Like you're so real. Such a genuine and real date. We love your story. Yeah. And yeah. Well, so basically her account commented this, and people were like, oh, she forgot to log out Like you're so real. Such a genuine and real date. We love your story. Yeah. And. Yeah.

Well, so basically her account, her account commented this and people were like, oh, she forgot to log out of her Finsta. So then she commented on posts like kind of that were calling this out, basically saying, if you want the real scoop, I'll give it to you. My dad goes on my account and deletes mean comments when I make posts because he doesn't like the thought of me having to see hurtful things. He forgot to switch back to his account before writing that. I love him for writing this, although in reality

I don't give a fuck what any of you people have to say. But what it doesn't explain is why does she have access to this fan account that she's logged into? No, no. No, it was her own account. She was commenting on a fan posted photo of the cast. You have a point though. So she said, she was saying that her dad is deleting comments.

When she says, what was the last, no, the last part. He forgot to switch back to his account. There you go. So she was saying that he was logged into her account. So he's logged in to his account on her phone? No, no, what is wrong with you? I'm confused. He logs, he.

This is confusing me. We lost the plot. I lost the plot. Explain this to me. It makes sense, it does make sense. It does, he. This is confusing. We lost the plot. I lost the plot. Explain this to me. It makes sense, it does make sense. It does make sense, it makes sense. He logs into her. Gina's dad.

Correct. Allegedly. On his phone, he has his phone and he logs into Gina's account on Instagram. Gina's dad. Gina's dad. Logs in to his famous real housewife daughter's Instagram. Yes, and he deletes negative comments

so that his daughter won't read them. He's protecting his daughter. Because she's lurking through the blog post essentially. And so he's like, I don't want her to see that. I don't want her to see that. I am deleting those. And then he's like, oh, a picture of Gina on this fan. Love my gal Gina.

She's the best daughter and the best mommy. Post, oh, frick, he forgot to best daughter and the best mommy, post, oh frick, he forgot to switch out and get back into his account. But where did the comment that came from the fan account come into the equation? They commented on a fan account post. It was a comment on a fan account post. Her account commented on the fan post.

Gotcha. But the fan post wasn't talking about Gina, so it looks like she forgot to switch out of a Finsta that she would have otherwise been hyping up herself. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I think we should just acknowledge how fun to do that all the time. It looks like she forgot to switch out of a Finsta that she would have otherwise been hyping up herself. That's what I'm saying. I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I think we should just acknowledge that how fun to do that all the time.

What was the caption that her dad? Love Mike, well now that I'm looking at it, it is a little suspect. Love Mike, it is just interesting. How many emojis did dad use? Five. It's so many. It's just red hearts.

It's just red hearts. So many hearts. Just hearts. She said, well her account said, love Mike Algena, best daughter, best mommy, best friend. Heart, heart, heart, heart, heart. I would have loved for Gina in that moment to be like, guys, we all do this shit.

They probably do. I know. I think it's funnier for her to say her dad did it. The only part that is questionable. When they say, you want the scoop and they make up a more unbelievable lie. Yeah, that's the beauty of housewives. The dad's some way.

Maybe they don't always be honest. I want them to lie and be deluded. The only part that's questionable is gal, G-A-L. I feel like that's what- My dad just wouldn't, and maybe we have different dads, but like gal, I don't- But it's like that's an interesting word. That's an older term though.

Is it? Gal. Like my best gal pals, like that's such like an older term. Gal pal means something different now. And the first thing he comments is best daughter. Why would she say about herself on a group picture, I'm the best daughter? She might lead with like best mommy, best friend,

best daughter. That's true. This was written by a dad. This was written by a dad. That is true. You believe Gina? Yeah, okay, I'm believing Gina. Absolutely believe Gina.

This was her dad. Yeah, not a chance. I'm just like, your dad never made this mistake before. You know? There's zero chance her dad has access to Instagram. Wait, wait, wait, I have a question. How many other posts is her dad commenting on? Is there feedback of like,

oh, her dad comments on a bunch of posts, like this is kinda normal. She does not have her dad logged into her Instagram just so he can delete comments. But also, like, she is right. Like, who gives a fuck? This is crazy that this is, like, people are like, oh my God, I can't believe she didn't log out.

That is, that is, that is how, that is the whole purpose of the house-based community is to argue about- Her dad does have an account. It's summa777, so it does look like a fan account, and it's Jean and Susan Archer, her parents. So it's very likely. He has a lot of emojis on his own account.

Zero chance, he's got her username and password to delete comments. Someone responded to her comment saying, your dad is your social media manager, question mark? Come on, guys. Listen, it might be the dad. That's the thing, why would she give her dad her login? Like I would never, guys. It might be the dial. That's the thing is like, why would she give her dad her login? Like I would never, ever.

She's a grown woman with kids. She's not like flirting in the DMs. Cause in the nudie pictures, she doesn't want her dad to see it. Oh my God, can you imagine? I wasn't even going there. I just mean, He's naughty.

I would give my mom my like login and be like, sure, if you wanna like. You would, because you have an amazing relationship with your mom and you're very close and yet you haven't. So she wouldn't. You know, like. I mean, there is. What about if you're a dad?

I have to stop your liability. Would you not give your dad your account if he needed to go on there and fix something? Sure, if I needed to, but the point is, I've never had to. I just feel like my best friend is a better resource. Maybe that's her best, that's her relationship with her dad, you guys don't know. That's true.

Guys, of course, anything's possible. People's families work for them. Hey Gina, we believe you. I did think it was very sad that Emily had to explain what immunity is to Jen. And it just makes me feel like Ryan truly does not tell her anything. It's not sad anymore.

No, it's on Jen. I'm sorry, at some point you have to look in the mirror. I mean, it is also, it's terrifying. Honestly, Jen's a perfect example just how easy it is for us to lie to ourselves and how scary it is. After we lied to ourselves for so long, how committed to the lie we are,

that we'd rather just live the lie rather than face the fact that maybe we were wrong. Yeah, the details also were kind of like, didn't really make sense. He didn't have a BOFA account, but he needed a BOFA account to pull the money out, and then he didn't really know where the millions came from, and it was like.

But what's scary after talking to Emily Baker last week, it's just like, she's not married to this guy right now. And at this point, all she is is just, you know, a naive girlfriend who has got a bad boyfriend. The moment she says, I do, then she's at risk of like becoming a criminal, of going to jail. Gina said it really well, you're putting yourself

in the line of fire to marry this man. But even with the- Literally. With her own comment too, where she was saying that, like she was like taking the blame for Ryan being involved in this case, where it's like Ryan did what he did regardless. It may be more on a platform because you're on a show, but he didn't get busted or need to work with the FBI

because you're on a television show. She's not even willing to consider he did anything. That sounded like something he told her. A thousand percent. It's giving Zach Brian, Brianna LaPaglia, where he's like, well, this was your fault because you're on this TV show, so now eyes are on me. Like if you hadn't been on this TV show, then we probably just would have. And he's given her the everyone's out to get us, no one understands. Us against the world. Us against the world. Bravo doesn't have your best interest in mind. Why would you believe any of them? Bonnie and Clyde. Which like that movie famously ended. It was a good ending though. Yeah, they all died.

Died, yeah. Unfortunately. It's just like sad to see her, like I think it's just sad to see a relationship where it's like you're so willing to like settle for someone that is doing these kinds of things for the sake of love. It's just like, I just wish a lot of people

were able to have an environment around them that allowed them to value themselves more. Nick has a point though, like she kind of blew up her world for this man. So it's like not even like settling. It's like, well, I mean, to a degree it is settling, but like she's- She's gotta see it work, you know?

She's blowing the world up for a man that might not be the right avenue. Well, and that's what's scary though, is she made such a big bet and like she and to face the reality that she did what she did for this man is not something she's seemingly willing to face. I'm hoping that part two, there's more of the Ryan conversation,

because before the reunion, she was like, it's gonna be a bloodbath. And I feel like we still don't have the bloodbath. Well, didn't she tried to offer some bullshit explanation for her even that like- It was the Bofa. Bofa what? Even then I wanna ask Emily about that as well,

because I'm like, it's weird that he needed to use somebody else's bank account versus opening up his own if his business was legit. Well, that's the part where I was like, maybe she doesn't know or she's trying to be careful with speaking, or maybe we just haven't seen all of her explanation. Well, I mean, the girls did make a point too,

because Shannon trying to protect her so much was like, can she even be talking about this? Because I know he has immunity, but does he have full immunity? And if she does say something. I do wonder that actually. Every time that there's an active lawsuit, I'm like. Well, I mean, like Emily said to us last week.

It used in court, everything. Well, that, but you can have immunity from say the federal government, but that doesn't include the state government. And I, you know, I don't know where the IRS is involved in this, but like they tend to want their money if you haven't properly paid them as well. So like you can have immunity with one court, but still be at risk of like all the other legal entities who might come after you for your alleged crimes. And I do love when like housewives try to like throw shade but then it doesn't land.

So when Jen Padranti was randomly was like, well, your husband's family funds your life. And then it went nowhere. Well, it ended. Well, it ended, yeah. Okay, well, I guess we might see more. But like- It was left on a to be continued.

She was also waiting on that. She was like, I have that on my Rolodeck. It is funny when you can tell that they've like really rehearsed the line. Yeah, to like let slip at the reunion. They just done their research for the reunion and they're just coming in prepared with things about each person that they can bring up if they need to. Or taking sharp turns to things that don't matter.

I do respect studiousness and prepping, and that's what I'll give. We do love someone who studies and who works hard and who makes good grades. We do love all of that. Yeah, so- I do wonder how Alexis Bellino is going to bend. Oh, I hope she gets eaten alive. Yeah, she has I do wonder how Alexis Bellino's gonna like, end. Oh, I hope she gets eaten alive. Yeah, she gets to show up.

I hope she gets eaten alive. What does she? I hear it goes badly for her. Good. Yeah. She deserves it. Well, I mean, she's going around saying that like, producers called her to be like,

and this is just like during the season, called her to be like, are you okay? Like, the world doesn't like you, kind of vibe, so. Sucks to suck. I wonder if she's gonna come in and be like more victim I wonder if she's going to come in and be like more victim me or if she's going to come in and be like, guys, I was wrong. No, it's not crazy.

It's her and Johnny J against the world. Yeah. She's still out there basically preaching the same, but she's backtracking on a lot of it. That's where it's like, yeah. What does she backtracking on? Well, she's like, I regret ever bringing up the videos. Like I never plan on like releasing those. Okay. But you did. Sure. But she didn't really I never plan on like releasing those. Okay, but you did sure

Tracking on like saying something she should have said but she's not backtracking on she's like I shouldn't release the videos But we're still writing Jen's and then she's also following Joel can booster. So that's funny. Yeah Yeah, so it's wrong with following Joel can booster. I think I still follow. Yeah, I don't yeah Oh, have you seen loot? Just because you got a little petty. What Mary and Nick are trying to say- no, I'm kidding. No, literally. What me and Joel are trying to say.

They're all anti-Shannon. I think Shannon also handled herself pretty well. So well. Yeah. So well. So far. And Gina also backed her up being like, look, that was in the past. Yeah.

Like, we've fixed that, so why do you care about it? It's insane to watch like Gina and Shannon just like interact with each other like normal human beings and then For whatever reason it's like and it makes sense for our Gina interview where she was like I was not the closest to her but by the end of the season I was the closest to her. Yeah, it was like what's like Gina's just coming in to Shannon with like basic human empathy Which is like something that a lot of the other girls weren't doing. They all definitely think they're better

than Shannon, for sure. Shannon is kind of this adorable person who can be a little messy sometimes and they all make fun of her for it. Especially after meeting Shannon, she's very endearing. Oh, I love her. She's a little kind of like, I don't know,

loose and with, I don't know how to say it, but you can see how snobby, sophisticated housewives would look down on Shannon for being a little whatever, just kind of. She's chill. She's chill. Yeah, not on top of her game, in a way. She's not overproduced. She's not conniving.

Maybe is the way to put it. Yeah, she's just very herself and just maybe a little like, oh, I forgot to do that or whatever, and just like, oh, overproduced. She's not like, conniving. Maybe is the way to put it. Yeah, I mean, she's just kind of very herself and just maybe a little like, oh, I forgot to do that or whatever and just like, oh, no biggie, you know? And you could just see, it's just obvious you can see how she will make it easier for people to make fun of her if they wanna make fun of her and it feels real mean.

Because it's never, like, it just seems very, the thing she does is like harmless or whatever, but it's like something a mean girl would make fun of. Like the enema. Well, they talked about it too. Yeah, I thought that was the most. She's on to get dirty, to your point. She's talking about the enema at the reunion.

The enema was incredible. It's something that I will cherish seeing on my screen for a long time. I thought it was hilarious, and I'm really glad that Shannon brought that up on TV. Well, clean your balls, people. It's good to tell you to have an enema. Eat good. people. It's good, it's healthy to have an enema. Eat good.

On that note, anyways, it's time to wrap up. Thank you guys for listening. We wanna thank our guest, Ego, for joining our show. Be sure to check her out on SNL in the future. Also, we got Garrett and Taylor on for going deeper tomorrow. Be sure to check that out, your healthy couple from Love is Blind. I think the first interesting healthy couple we've had on Love is Blind. You will want to get all the tea from them.

Sit down with us as Natalie and I chat with them. And then on Thursday, we are back talking about a whole host of things. And we got Megan McCann, formerly from The View, who's going to pitch us her new reality TV show idea that she has. We don't talk politics, but we do the great, the great, the great uniter reality TV. And Megan McCain is with us to talk about all things Bravo. So excited for that.

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