The Viall Files - E847 - Jeff Lewis, RHOC Reunion, RHOSLC, the Wicked Movie, RHOBH Premiere, and Fake Crying

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Bravo is in their podcast era, and Mr Messy himself, Jeff Lewis, joins to stir the pot! We talk about it all… RHOC Reunion Part 3, Shannon Beador’s Settlement, RHOSLC, Meredith Marks’ Bangs, Delta Airlines having Shake Shack, the Wicked movie, and fake crying. “Shannon earned her bonus." OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Wonderful Pistachios - Learn more at https://www.WonderfulPistachios.com  Cymbiotika - You guys need to get your hands on these products while their Black Friday Sale lasts for a limited time! Head over to https://www.Cymbiotika.com right now for 25% off + Free Shipping sitewide. Draft Kings - Grab some TDs with DraftKings Sportsbook – they’re on sale from Thanksgiving through Cyber Monday! Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code VIALL to opt in.  Uncommon Goods - To get 15% off your next gift, go to https://www.uncommongoods.com/viall. Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary. Quince - Gift luxury this holiday season, without the luxury price tag. Go to https://www.Quince.com/viall for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order!  Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @jljefflewis @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @the_mare_bare @dereklanerussell  Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 05:19 - Light Show Recap 10:38 - Vibes Or Knowledge 13:36 - Household Headlines 43:11 - Jeff Lewis Interview 01:57:18 - Outro  

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Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. You're crazy. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to our podcast. We're back with another episode of Reclaimed. And we're gonna be talking about the lifeblood of Navajo Nation. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Valfalse Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host Nick.

Happy holidays to you all. Whatever you guys are doing this Thanksgiving, hope you're traveling. We're very excited to be with you. We got a great episode for you. The one and only Jeff Lewis is with us later this episode to talk about all things Bravo, babe. We talked about this on Vi-Fi Plus last week. Shake Shack is now on Delta flights.

That's iconic. Except that this sucks for me. Why? Because I'm not a sauce girly. Oh, they're definitely not. They're definitely not, yeah. We talked about this. The team feels like they're gonna somehow give us

the packets of sauce on the side. And as someone who has been, as I said, oppressed by the people who put sauces on burgers, I know they're not going to. No, it's gonna be like just the Shaq burger is gonna come with lettuce, tomato, Shaq sauce. How they make it. It's gonna come with a soggy. You think so?

It's gonna come with a soggy. What are they gonna do? Question, what are they gonna do about the soggy lettuce and the soggy tomato? That's kind of what I'm thinking. That's a good question. That's why I think that they would do a side sauce packet or like when you fill out your what do you want to eat,

you can do like a preference. I mean, people do have allergies. So like maybe they are assembling, you know, in the galley. Cause it just one sauce. Did the flight attendants have time to put sauce on everyone's burgers? They're busy.

Those burgers, if they're just sitting there waiting for time to eat, they're gonna be disgusting by the time, where I'm like, at least if they're not sauced up, they'll still have pulled their shape. Here's the thing, when you order a salad, the salad doesn't come with the dressing on it unless you're at a salad place, right?

So they're gonna give it to you with the sauce on the side. They do that on the plane too. As someone who has had to deal with this burden my whole life, I promise you. You have no faith. I have no faith. I have absolutely no faith. Well, we are going to New York in December,

so maybe we will get. Well, are we gonna get the John and Vinny's or are we gonna get the Shake Shack? How do they decide? You can get John and Vinny's, I'll get Shake Shack, and then we'll see. And then Cher. Are they giving us the option? Because we will be flying Delta War. Well, there is sauce on pasta. What are we gonna get the John and Vinny's or are we gonna get the Shake Shack? How do they decide? You can get John and Vinny's, I'll get Shake Shack and then we'll see. As a share. Are they giving us the option?

Cause we will be flying Delta War. Well there is sauce on pasta. Wait so they're gonna have John and Vinny's and Shake Shack? Yeah. You think they're gonna cut? That would be kind of messed up. I thought they were replacing it.

No. Sounds like they have a full kitchen on deck. Yeah, I'm not, yeah it's a marinara sauce. I like barbecue sauce. He doesn't like mayonnaise. So a, it's a, no, a marinara sauce. I like barbecue sauce. He doesn't like mayonnaise. So anything that's made with mayonnaise. Like a cream based sauce. A creamy, yeah.

He honestly doesn't even like Alfredo. An egg white base. Yeah. Or milk base. Well, isn't mayonnaise made with egg whites? You don't like Alfredo? Fuck that. And you worked at Olive Garden? That wasn't a prerequisite.

It wasn't like, eat this Alfredo sauce right now. Yeah. You're not touring all of Italy. But isn't most of their dishes like Alfredo? Although that was my first Olive Garden dish, the tour. Yeah. Yikes. You even know what the tour is? Don't you like get all the?

Get a little slice of lasagna, which I've never really liked lasagna. I think chicken parm. You do get a chicken parm. And a pasta of some kind? No. You get an Alfredo. Yuck.

Isn't there another one in there? Alfredo and lasagna and chicken parm. Yeah, it's the tour of Italy. It's a lot. They're gonna give you a little bit of everything. I definitely substituted the, why did I ever get the tour of Italy? Why did you?

The only thing I liked about it. You don't like Alfredo and you don't like lasagna. If you were friends, you know, you can be friends with the cooks in the kitchen and be like, hey man, you know. The way that whenever I was a server, I would constantly beg for free food back there. I'd be like, hey. You should.

I'd be like, hey. It's the one trade off you should get. Is it that part of the deal? Yeah. I used to, when I was a busser in high school, I used to like order, cause we couldn't technically get free food. I would order a side of onion rings

with my employee discount. And then the line cooks would give me the full plate of onion rings. Wow. And just be like, we didn't see. There is no one who's gonna compliment you more than the line cook. So true.

So there's that. Except the drunk guy at the bar. Or someone at a gas station. Yeah. To be a woman. But the bar and the gas station are creepy and the line cook is like, Hey mama.

Yeah, mama. Call me mama. Yeah. That is a great time to remind you that this heated debate gets in much, much greater detail on Vile Files Plus. And because it's Thanksgiving and everyone else in the world is offering in sales, so are we.

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If you listen to Ask Nick, all the updates that you desire, they're so fun. Plus we do pop extra every week, all those pop cults topics we didn't talk about. Plus Vanderpump recap, we're in the middle of season five. Also, this is the last episode with this fall decor. Goodbye. Goodbye. We're done the middle of season five. Also, this is the last episode with this fall decor. Goodbye. Goodbye.

We're done with the pumpkins. We're done with the fall leaves. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So many great shows that we get to talk about later this episode, especially with Jeff. We got the reunion part three. That wasn't very giving, reunion part three for O.C. It was definitely the fuck Alexis episode.

Hell yeah. She's dead. That's what I feel like that last scene, that last scene was an Alexis burial. I've never watched a more disgusting, gross human being on television. The audience is saying she's still alive. She has been decimated on the show

during the third part of the reunion. That was a housewife execution. Yeah. Her storyline is done. Solidified. Her body remains in the trash can. wasn't a housewife execution. Yeah. Her storyline is done. Solidified. Her body remains in the trash can. I've been on TV for 15 years, that's not anymore.

Where? But also never again. 15 not 16. Shannon posted her settlement. Sounds like she paid $60,000. Honestly, money well spent. Yep. And the full settlement was 11, 21, 24.

Doesn't Bravo do like bonuses or whatever? Bravo, I hope Bravo, I hope Shannon, Shannon earned her bonus. Absolutely earned this bonus. Her bonus should be 60,000. No, it should be more than 60,000. Well more, but I'm saying it should cover. They should add an additional,

they should line item it, calling it for the emotional, caring this episode. Thank you, John. Yeah. Do you get workers comp for caring? You should. You should, because you know her back hurts. Her back does hurt, for sure.

She was a goddamn delight. She was. Salt Lake City was really good too. It was. And don't ever touch my phone is all I have to say. I think my favorite- What is on the phone? What?

She said don't swipe. Don't touch my phone. I'm in the business of defending Whitney usually over Meredith, but she did grab her phone. She did grab her phone. I'm still defending Whitney. I just think it was iconic, but she chose the kindergarten storyline

of don't touch my phone. If you grabbed my phone like that, I definitely would have been like, I wouldn't have reacted like Meredith, but. If someone's dangling it in your face. Yeah, I wouldn't have grabbed it. If I can't hear it and you're throwing it in my face, I would say, can you turn it up, it like Meredith, but. Exactly. If someone's dangling it in your face. Yeah, I wouldn't have grabbed it. If I can't hear it and you're throwing it in my face, turn it up. I would say,

can you turn it up, please? Yeah, well. My favorite line of the episode was Brittany saying at the end, what about me? Okay, but I actually, embarrassing, but I was also like, you know what, good for you, good for you, because she started that conversation, everybody ignored it, then I will say,

she said one sentence after and was like, I really needed this conversation, guys. Then I will say, she said one sentence after and was like, I really needed this conversation guys. And I was like, that's embarrassing. That's so relatable though. You made a scene to not make a scene. And then everyone being like, well then you should apologize to Bronwyn. And she's like, Bronwyn, I am so sorry.

When she was doubling down like 10 minutes prior, she was like, nope, yep, I did say that. Nope, yep, yep. No, it was more like, Bronwyn, I'm finally ready to apologize for some of the things that I have acknowledged, some of which I disagree, you know, it's like, okay. What about Meredith saying,

if you wanna talk about the past, that's not gonna be pretty. And then everybody was like, are you threatening me? She's like, I never said anything about the past. No, I said I didn't want to. I don't wanna talk about the past. And it's like, but you're the one who said it. Yeah, I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone.

I did not understand. She's a drama queen this episode for sure. She said she didn't want to talk about the past. She was just making sure that people knew that it would be bad if she had to talk about the past because she didn't want to. Mary, as the president of the Meredith fan club. As the Meredith fan club president,

she did nothing wrong. What did you think of her hair? Awful. But in the best way, it was giving Courtney Cox in Scream 3, which is one of the most iconic haircuts you could ever have. It was like, if a-

She tried, she tried. She tried, she committed to the Audrey Hepburn of it all. She definitely was giving like middle school costume. Upset. Well, she's dead. She did more than Heather. She's rolling in her grave after seeing that. Yeah, but Bronwyn slid. Bronwyn's clip in bangs.

Yeah. The whole look. I think Meredith just needed to like snap the bangs a little lower. That was her issue. They were all the way back here. What was Brittany wearing? She looked like a rock star.

She didn't get the memo. She had like a silk button up on. Well, she got invited late, so she might've not been told about the theme. Mary said she got the same invitation. Oh, okay. Very poor. Angie Kay though, she might have not been told about the theme. Mary said she got the same invitation. Oh, okay. For sure.

Angie Kay, though, she's my queen. Especially after this episode. And then also, we finally did watch Beverly Hills premiere. We did. We didn't get enough of a boss. Is it boss? How does she pronounce her name? They went straight to nickname.

It's Boseman. Boseman. Boseman. I didn't like that they waited like half the episode to introduce her. More than half. Well that's typical for her, because you don't want to start the new season

with someone we don't know. You want to start it with the cast and then introduce them. And how we would meet them casually at a party. Because then it'd be like, wait, is this Beverly Hills? Yeah, wait, who is this? And why is everyone shitting on Dorit's hat

when they're all in antlers? I'm like, I don't get that at all. I actually, that's what I thought. Well, two things. One, they're just bullies to Dorit. They're mean, they're mean. That being said, they're mean to my girl. No, I'm just saying.

But she definitely in classic Dorit style like didn't do the assignment and did her own fashion, fashion, fashion thing. I don't think any of them really did the assignment. No. Isn't it like a Salvador Dali? They all were just creatures of the garden. I think Erika was the closest to surrealism.

Erika was, she had the eyes referencing a dolly anyway. Yeah. But they are mean. Erica's outfit kind of reminded me of all real monsters. Does anybody remember that? It's a bodysuit with eyes on it. This Vibes versus Stats segment of the Vibe Files is brought to you by Wonderful Pistachios.

We obviously are recording this before the game starts, so we can't give you the final score. So in lieu of giving you the results of the games that we picked, we are gonna go over things you should say to your professional football watchers at Thanksgiving. Did he get both feet down? Number one.

When they catch a ball on the sidelines. Yeah, anytime they catch a ball, ask did they get both feet down? Number two, don't you think the touchback rule when they fumble is stupid? Anytime there is a sack, this is when the quarterback is tackled before he has a chance to throw the ball, say he has to see the pressure coming pre-snap and get theumble is stupid. Anytime there is a sack, this is when the quarterback is tackled before he has a chance to throw the ball.

Say, he has to see the pressure coming pre-snap and get the ball out quick. He has to see the pressure coming. And I want you to perform. I want this to be an Oscar performance. When the offense gets a first down and they're past the 50 yard line, but outside field goal range,

don't worry about knowing field goal range because the big red line showing it say, this could be for down territory. What are you reading this from? This is how to fake football like a pro. Carmen Rose and Carmen Rose. I have, I feel like kind of stole the analysis. But this was three years ago.

Oh, no, maybe you stole Carmen's idea. I never, I never saw it. And what I did is I would go on Twitter and search hashtag packers. Cause I know Nick does that all the time. And I would see like some of the tweets and be like, oh, that's niche. And I would text it to Nick and he'd be like, oh my God. You're so wonderful and amazing.

And cool, funny and amazing. I'm quirky, I'm different. I like football. Yes, of course. Just say good hustle. Good hustle. Those reps suck. Bonus, this is always safe to say before half time,

but can also apply to the end of the game. When there's a little over two minutes left on the clock, you can say, you can't forget they have the two minute warning. So true. That's good. So true. Oh, anytime the ref, this is one of my own,

anytime the ref throws a flag down, I immediately say, pass interference. Pass interference. Yeah. False start, pass interference. Pass interference. False start. False start. Offside. Offside. Those are just some words you should throw out. No, you should say,

God, I hate those pre-snap penalties. Say that. Oh, that's good. Those revs are paid off. That's a favorite. Those are some good ones, everyone. So take out your notes app, write those down, and while the game is going, read them off.

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Thank you, Wonderful Pistachios, for sponsoring this segment of the Vile Files visit wonderful pistachios.com to learn more. Uh anyways lots to get into with Mr. Jeff Lewis later this episode. Mary can you explain to me I like there's something everyone's talking about Nicole Kidman accused of lying about some meme about Tom Cruise. I forgot they were married, they've been divorced for so long. They've had like a couple marriages in between. I mean, Tom Cruise had a whole Katie Holmes kid. He did. In between.

So why do people care? Okay, well, thank you for asking because this is what I've been building up for my entire life. Okay, so Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman married for a while, married while they were making Ice White. Shut, they get a divorce. There is this very famous-

And also, what's the movie, the car movie? Days of Thunder. Yeah, Days of Thunder. They were in Days of Thunder. Maybe like Cars? Yeah, he was a NASCAR driver and she was like- Tom Cruise, Lightning McQueen. Commator.

You know it. Nicole Kidman, Sally. You know it. We love it. Yeah, she got that dump truck. Days ofman Sally. You know it. We love it. She got that dumped on. Anyway. Okay. But so Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise get a divorce.

It was rumored to be a very, very toxic ending because of a certain thing that Tom Cruise associates himself with. Scientology. Yes. And so they're going through all of that. Nicole Kidman's leaving and she, there's this very famous photo of her that we will put up that. I've never seen this photo.

You haven't? I haven't seen it either. I will. What? That's crazy. It's iconic. You're on social media. Am I though?

You get the photo. I always love it when people tell me to ignore the hate and I'm always like, well, I didn't know we got hate until you told me to ignore it. So basically the photo of Nicole Kidman is very, very famous. I used it after I left my last job. And this photo was a photo of her when... It's becoming free. It is rumored to be and widely accepted to be her leaving the court

after her divorce was finalized from Tom Cruise and she was just so hot that she got to be free. leaving the court after her divorce was finalized from Tom Cruise and she was just so, that she got to be free and it's just this like image of freedom that people on the internet use all the time because we love Nicole Kidman. And then she goes and does this interview. Nicole Kidman loves to say things and that don't quite make sense. Like she was tired of orgasming, orgasming,

Yes. You had it right kind of the first time. One time she, orgasming. Words are hard. Yeah, pearls are hard as well. One time she had this quote where she asked Reese Witherspoon, Reese, do you ever think about dying?

On the set of Big Little Lies. So she loves to run her mouth. And she said that it was not actually from her divorce hearing, it was from a movie. But the Nicole Kidman gays did their research and were like, this does not add up. There was no movie in which you were wearing that costume and were filming at that time.

So what- It was only Nicole Kidman gays? There were no straight people? There were probably some straights, but I would say the general people obsessed with Nicole Kidman are gay? There were no straight people? There were probably some straights, but I would say the general people obsessed with Nicole Kidman are gay people. The fans. Yeah.

Nicole, the Kidman heads. Anyway, they said she's lying. They're accusing- Their queen. Their queen. Of lying. They're accusing the mother of movies to be a liar, and I kind of agree.

I think she's being like, that wasn't for my divorce, but it totally was. And that's what's going on. I feel like you all don't wanna let go of. I don't know. I've seen many Nicole Kidman movie and I never remember her wearing that outfit. That is a very distinct outfit.

Yeah. It's a nuggly outfit as well. It's a nuggly outfit. It's ugly and it's- Weren't you like a film major? Yeah. Don't you know that like they sometimes film scenes that like never make it in the movies?

He's attacking your education. Yes, but that's not as- He's literally coming for your throne. Okay, he doesn't know how well I did in school. Um. That is true. Yeah. I'm just saying as an accounting major

who doesn't know shit about shit. They do have cut scenes. Some theorize that it may be a cut scene from Practical Magic, however, she had a blowout in Practical Magic, a lot of it. So I don't think that that's true. I don't think she was curly that whole movie, was she?

No, she was not. Maybe she was doing a short film for a friend. Oh, that never got released? About a divorce? Yeah, maybe. About anything. I don't know, or maybe she's lying, just to have fun. Maybe she really doesn't remember.

And she's like, I don't think that's true. And now it's causing a stir. That is, she definitely could be lying. She could be lying. Yeah. I wonder what Nicole Kidman thinks about AMC issuing a warning that there will be no singing during the wicked movies. Thank God. I honestly thank God.

Yeah. You know, you're ruining it. Like stuff your mouth with popcorn. But also like, why not? No, concert, you sing along. Movie, shut up. Yeah. Unless it's a sing along. Movie, shut up. Unless it's a sing along version of the film.

You're there to watch. Unless you're at the Taylor Swift era's concert movie. Right, then it was designed to do that. It'll be on streaming in four weeks. Exactly, you can sing at the top of your lungs in your living room over the weekend. I don't know, can you not laugh at a comedy? Not the same.

Not the same. It's a short bit. It's wicked. Or like a horror movie, you're screaming during the horror movie. It's a short bit. Or like a horror movie, you're screaming during the horror movie. Not the same. Yeah, it's a short bit. It's a moment in time.

A natural verbal reaction to the moment? What if your natural verbal reaction to, ah, is to do that? Is to say it. Then you should get the fuck out. The entire theater's just gonna sound like a bad Tarzan moment. Oh no.

And is that not a beautiful cinema going moment to bond your friends? Not if I pay to see, listen to Broadway Gold. No. You think that you are entitled to sing in public But this is for theater kids who are entitled and narcissists I love that. Rent out the theater for your whole theater group. If you have a good voice go for it No, no, just like turn the volume down a little bit so I don't hear you This is so funny to argue. I don't care about this at all.

I think they should be able to sing. Or like wait three weeks when everybody's seen it and you have a whole theater to yourself and pop off. But just not while it's a full theater. Nobody wants to hear you over Ariana Grande and Cynthia Riva. I'll tell you what though, I will not be going to see Wicked in the Theater.

Oh, I'm going on Sunday night. Sunday night, 11.15. Really? Justin and I have to get tickets. And I will be saying, what is it? So, I felt this moment I laid out on you. And no one else will hear me, but I will be doing it. Okay, but question.

And that's fine. I wouldn't know the fuck out of your mouth. It's just someone there whispering. Yeah, somebody has like sensory ottery. I'll be around like-minded people. Okay, but question though, because I went to a concert last night and everybody was like sitting in front and like kind of behind me and like to my point I'm like, but if you

pay for the ticket, do what you want, no? It's a concert. But like in the movie, like if they're paying for the ticket, they technically do have the right to sing. No, they don't. No. It's a little bit different. I feel like a concert you expect people to sing along and the artist is so loud that

it doesn't really matter and everybody's in the vibe. Yeah. And a movie like shut up. Do you sing at musicals if you go on Broadway? No. Could you imagine? I don't, but I don't have a good voice.

No. But do people? No. You will be removed from the theater. Yeah, that's true. But if Cynthia Riva was next to me. Hey, I don't have a response. What would Ariana say at Chicago?

She'd appreciate it. She wouldn't. Did you see that Anne Hathaway will star in the upcoming film adaptation of Colleen Huber's bestselling novel, Verity? I wonder if there's gonna be some crazy Anne Hathaway versus someone else. Is Justin Beltoni gonna ruin that one too?

I don't know. I don't know who, they haven't announced who else is casted. So I don't know who else will be starring alongside Anne, but she is a great, yes, yes, I've read. She's a great cast for this movie and I am curious to see who else will be plugged. I have seen like People's Dream and it involves Theo James, it involves Jamie Dorman,

it involves Rosamund Pike. Love. Which are all great, great, great. Great choices. So we'll see. I love an Anne Hathaway moment. Why do people pick on her? Because they're,

cause she got set up at the Oscars one time with James Franco and it was like really awkward and embarrassing and everybody just blamed her at the moment and so there's a lot of residual hate. A lot of hate and halfway conversations out there. Recently specifically they're hating on the fact that she might have Botox work done. Okay, well it looks good as hell.

It does, I'm not saying that I'm part of that. Who doesn't in Hollywood, are you joking? It's because there was a scene from some recent movie this past year where she was crying, and someone put a comparison of her crying now to a comparison of Princess Diaries or something, and they were like, this is before and after Botox. That was like 10 years ago. Yeah, well, yeah. And I don't know if Princess Diaries was the movie,

but that's why people right now have been kind of hating on her. I don't know. Anne Hathaway, you've never done anything like that. I love her. If it was anything like Angie Kay's crying, then I would see. Don't come for Angie Kay. Oh my God, Anne Hathaway as Angie Kay. That crying was not good.

I don't think that was like fake tears for the camera. She was talking about her mother that passed away when she was eight. No, I don't think it was fake tears for the camera. I don't think she was able to muster up the tears and was struggling. What would you call this? I don't doubt when Angie talks about her mother around her dad that that content makes her sad,

but I think that she leaned into her feelings and got herself to cry in that moment while sitting in front of her dad on camera on film and she tried to cry. She leaned into her emotions. What would you call that, fake or real? I think it's real if it's your emotions. If you're leaning into the emotion you're feeling.

It's different if you're like, I don't feel this, but I'm gonna fake cry for the camera. Okay, fine, but I think she tried to cry. I don't think so. I do. I think the only difference was the ITM versus sitting in front of her father. There were two different.

Well, and I will say, she said this whole situation, she's like, I felt empty about something I shouldn't feel empty about. So I think she's already like, should I cry, should I not cry? So I think her brain is kind of just between. She feels like she should cry, so she's trying to make herself cry,

but it's like, doesn't come naturally. But also is something so deep that you would be crying about your mother passing away. There's a scene in my season of The Bachelor, I don't know if I ever said this publicly out loud, but there was a moment in the middle of the season where I was going to quit the show. You've never said this before? I don't know. Breaking news. Breaking news.

And I walked into a room with Vanessa and Rachel and Corinne and Raven and Danielle I think was still there. I was still there. I was sobbing, sobbing, sobbing. He's a performer. And were you leaning into that? Oh my God, yes. I walked out of the room and I said, how was that?

What's the score of the Packer Bears game? Oh, shut up. Oh my gosh. Cast him in Verity, everyone. Just because you're fake doesn't mean Angie Kate is. Oh, who? Shots fired. No, shucks, fire! No, that's true.

Do not call the mother of electric cats and they was fake. I'm sorry. Don't call the father of River Rose fake. And I was sad and I was stressed. I felt bad. I just leaned into the emotions. But yeah, they were faked tears. And then all the ladies were just crying because I was crying, everyone's crying,

but yeah, it was all bullshit. It wasn't eye drops that you used to make yourself cry. No, it was your real tears. Real tears, I was sobbing, sobbing. Have you ever done that with me? No, really, no. Then like, I didn't really wanna watch football all weekend and smoke all the weed possible, please.

You've never done that? No, but I faked that scene. Wow. You were method acting. I was, I was method acting. He was method. Yeah. Oh my God, you're so talented.

Thank you. You're a girl. All I'm just saying, I'm just saying, let's just, I feel like we'll have a tear and I think these women are professionals and I just think Angie knew the assignment. Oh, she always does. Yeah, and I just think she was like,

let's figure out how to get some tears. I don't, you know, so like, fake crying is real crying, but it's not like organic crying. It wasn't organic, that's what I was trying to say. Maybe not, okay. I could be wrong. And maybe I'm projecting, maybe I'm projecting because I was not organic crying either.

That's what I wanna call it, or not organic crying. No GM's what I want to call it. Or not organic crying. No GMOs. No. It was a Thursday night. It was a vegan cry. It was a vegan cry. Yeah. Packers were playing the Bears on Thursday night football.

They're wearing their all whites. And I believe that. Those are next favorite uniforms. The all whites. And yeah, they were. Yeah, they beat the Bears that night and they had all their running backs were hurt. I remember this. This is when I was supposed to be really crying inside

because I was gonna quit the show. And then they had to film this whole scene with Chris Harris in the next day. You're supposed to keep crying? Wait. And I was supposed to be still unsure if I was gonna quit. I was like, guys, we're milking this. I'm not going anywhere.

You were gonna quit because of the Packers game? No. I was like, wait, wait. You're so stressed. You haven't decided. I had just sent a Danielle home. Between so many women. I was like, wait, wait. You're getting so stressed. I have just sent a Danielle home. Between so many women. I wasn't, oh, this wasn't working for me.

And I wasn't sure if I could keep going. And I wasn't sure if my wife was in the room. Deep down you knew she wasn't, yeah. Yeah, deep down, yeah. Period, he knew she was on Instagram. Yeah. That is funny. Question for Nick and Natalie.

Would you buy a $6.2 million duct tape banana for your house? Is that even a question? Yeah, I think so. Unfortunately in this world, yes. A duct tape what? Duct tape banana. So it's an artwork.

And so like, you know what Sotheby's is, right? So it's like one of the major like, they do real estate, but also like, artworks are the auctions that they do as well. Auction for the rich. Essentially, yeah, basically. So at their contemporary art auction, like they do real estate, but also like our works are the auctions that they do as well. Auction for the rich. Essentially. Yeah, basically. So at their contemporary art auction, they sold a piece by Maurizio Cotillon called

the comedian made in 2019. And I looked up the background and just give it to you. So Maurizio is an Italian visual artist known for hyper realistic sculptures and installations. There's three editions of this banana artwork. It's a piece consisting of a fresh banana duct taped to a wall and it comes with a certificate of authenticity and an installation instructions for owners to replace the banana if they wish whenever it rots. So basically this past week it sold for 6.2 million dollars. I hope the person who spent 6.2 million dollars at some

point in their life regrets that decision. Well so he said, the person who bought it, that it represents a cultural phenomenon that bridges the worlds of art, memes, and the cryptocurrency community. For sure, and I do hope that in a few years that they do regret that decision and that excuse. He was filming himself during the bid, and it was like 1.3 that he put it up.

He didn't get it, obviously, but. I feel like that was Leo knowing. We've been to some, is it fundraisers or foundations and Yeah, there's an auction usually of some kind and there is a there's definitely people who who bid on items knowing They're not gonna get it, but they want to be part of the action I think about it all the time when I go to them and I'm like

I just want to raise it once and I'm like I know I'm gonna get stuck with it and be like I can't do 16,000 for this villa in Mexico. I mean listen, Leo clearly has it. Yeah. Yeah I want to be the one that people fight with but then ultimately I'm like I'm so upset but I just got them up to $47,000. Here's the thing though for this is we all know Andy Warhol now his pieces sell for like millions millions like it's essentially the same thing as Banana tape to wall. Yeah, you want a canvas of a Campbell soup? Yeah over a banana tape to wall. Can I just make the duct tape banana myself? I think the fact that you have to change out the banana is like fucked up. Well it's an installation, but it's an installation.

It's a commentary on consumer. You're giving me work and not only do I have to spend 6.2 million, I now have to buy bananas for the rest of my life to replace my art piece. It's a living, breathing piece of art. I aspire to be able to waste my money on such things. We would never. Justin, how does this relate to Dadaism? I'm sorry, the burrito person's spamming me right now.

Can I answer you? Please. The burrito person? I needed a burrito. Hello? Can I ask him? Is it The burrito person. I needed a burrito. Hello? Can I ask him? Please. Is it the burrito that we like? Are you outside or are you inside the hallway?

You would love it. No. It doesn't have any sauce in it. You would love it, it's really good. I need some orange juice. Well. That's my snobby. You can't have a bite without the orange juice.

Once you go cold pressed. No, Nick will spend $20 on a little tiny jar or freshly squeezed orange juice. Freshly squeezed, baby. If that's what tickles your fancy, let it in. No, Nick will spend $20 on a little tiny jar or freshly squeezed orange juice. If that's what tickles your fancy, what it is. I don't think a navel orange from California is ever gonna truly tickle my fancy for orange juice. I don't know if it's from California, but I just- Then how is it freshly squeezed

if it's not from California? You couldn't put an orange on a plane and then squeeze that orange. Fair enough, but it's not local, Nick. Well, it is. I didn't say it was locally squeezed. Just saying. Is there a straw?

Thank you. Here's my beef with those types of straws. The cup is so small, yet the straw is so long. Why not make a smaller straw for a strawler cup? It just feels awkward. I want plastic straws. I'm just gonna put it out there. Feel that, that's not paper.

Not plastic. It's plant-based, it's vegan. It's amazing. Is it vegan? It's gonna melt. It's vegan straw. Where we keep referring to vegan because I am wearing a vegan leather jacket from Gap. Which is another name for fake leather coat.

Genius. But marketing it as vegan leather is genius. I just love it, we love it when corporate America takes advantage of moral virtue. Yeah. Yeah. It's soy based. Is all faux leather vegan though?

Yes. Is it though? Like think about it. It's not real leather. But faux leather vegan though? Yes. Is it though? Like think about it. It's not real leather. But some practices may involve like horse or animal to like produce. But then it wouldn't be vegan. It wouldn't be vegan.

Well like, well some people that consider like quality vegan. Quality vegan? Like if this is vegan, like to some people, to some considerations, like if you use, let's say this is very like extreme, but like a cow to transport the faux leather, then that's no longer vegan, you know? Okay, vegan leather is made from polyurethane.

I'm guessing Gap did not, you can't fully verify in Google if this coat was made without inconveniencing any animals. Right, well I'm saying this is vegan, but I don't think every faux leather is vegan. Is glue still made from horses? No, but that's- Like stuff like that, that's what I'm saying, like there's some processes that involve-

But I guarantee you the gap is not- Oh, this is vegan, I agree. No. It's not vegan? Well, I think we're saying the same thing, but- What's happening? Well, you're saying not every faux leather is vegan, and I'm saying yes, it is.

I'm saying they decided to market. Maybe. They're just calling it vegan leather because it's not real leather, and they're hoping for all the suckers who will feel better about it being Vegan that they're gonna buy it because it's vegan. I agree with this Yeah Yeah, I think but also leather isn't vegan based on what like there's some

Ingredients and like let's say like glue or whatever that made of all animal products I'd be willing to bet that's just fake leather and that's why they're calling it vegan leather. It's a on here fake leather Yeah, yes, all faux leather is vegan, meaning it's made without animal products. Well there you go, I'm proven wrong. Yeah, easy answer to Google something. But I bet they could have used glue. I bet you're right and they're still calling it

vegan leather. Is Elmer's glue vegan or is Elmer a horse? Elmer's does not use a horse. Oh thank God. I can sleep. Did you see that John Stamos kind of responded to the whole like bald cap? I did, yeah.

And I hate that for him. I hate that he had to feel like he had to do that. He was just trying to do a funny little bit with his friends. Yeah. This is after Dave already spoke up about it. Sure. Also I hate that he had to waste any emotional or mental energy while fighting cancer,

dealing with internet trolls who like are so bored with their lives, they need to like shit on this moment. Yeah. Well, and John specifically said, "'He wanted me to come shave his head. "'I knew before so I brought the ball cap from the studio, "'flew across the country to be with my brother. "'Regardless, I'm so shocked. "'First, I'll say, I'm just embarrassed,

"'and they're embarrassing. "'But when I started seeing this blowback, "'I'm just like, what? "'I couldn't figure it all out. "'I still don't know 100% what they should be doing "'instead of making silly little videos.'" Nothing, John. No, he's saying, what they should be doing instead of making silly little videos. Nothing, John. No, he's saying what they should be doing

instead of making silly little videos or doing comments, they should call their doctor, make an appointment. I think that's the whole point of all of this. It's been Dave's message. Thank you for finishing that, Joe. You're welcome. Toys R Us is developing a new reality competition series at Fox that will see families competing inside

a larger than life toy store that will integrate a range of nostalgic and popular toys and games from classic toy brands. I feel like it's giving like old school Black Friday maniac, you know, like chaos. Where everyone's like, I need that 70 inch TV. It's a, what's that one game show? Supermarket Sweep.

They remade it recently, but like the OG one that was like really big. Guy's Grocery Games? Yeah. Is the giraffe from Toys R Us going to be in the show? He has to be. He has to be. He's the star.

Does River have Toys R Us toys? No. Didn't it go bankrupt? But it still exists in like Target. Toys R Us when I was a kid was like this mythical place that my parents couldn't afford anything to. Same. I never went to it either.

Expensive. When my grandma would take me it was like, ah, as the sliding doors opened up and it was just like, what aisle do we start on? You would have loved Baby's RS though. My niece, who honestly could have anything in the entire world, she's, and she's been to Toys R Us. The place that she freaks out about is Walmart, the toy aisle at Walmart.

It is big. If her mom is like, we're gonna go to Walmart, she's like, seriously? Yeah, freaks out. Great value. God, a subway and a Walmart has gotten me through so many tough times. Subway and value. God, a Subway and a Walmart has gotten me through so many tough times. Subway and a Walmart?

Yeah. The Subway and the Walmart? The Subway and the Walmart? That's where you went when you were depressed? No, it's like your grocery shopping and like, oh, I'm hungry now, might as well get a footlong. The Subway and a Walmart or a Starbucks and a Target?

You know, I'm from Subway and a Walmart culture, so. I mean, I like a Pizza Hut and Target, that's me. What? Pizza Hut and a Target. And a Target, those are. I mean, I like a Pizza Hut and Target, that's me. What? Pizza Hut and Target. Those are good. They taste better than real Pizza Hut. Ooh, cookie dough from a 7-Eleven. That got me through college. I don't know about that one, but.

I didn't know about that one. Hot dog from a. I'll eat a hot dog from anywhere. Tukitos from a 7-Eleven. Tukitos from a 7-Eleven. Ew, that is diarrhea immediately. They are, but they're worth it. They're worth it for the one time.

It's a hot dog. I love a hot dog. You were talking to someone that DoorDash Taco Bell last night. You mean to tell me the hot dog from the stadium is in better condition than the 7-Eleven? You DoorDashed a Crunchwrap Supreme last night? And a Doritos taco while watching

the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Love a Doritos Locos. Doritos Locos tacos nacho cheese or Cool Ranch? Nacho cheese. Wait, wait, Doritos, Dorit Kemsley-dos tacos? Wait, a Dorito. That's a sponsorship we need. Doritos. Dorit Kemsley-itos tacos. That's a sponsorship we need. Doritos.

Doritos. Yeah, we're a Doritos. She would wear it beautifully as a hat. She would. That little triangle, that's fashion, fashion, fashion. More like a latex Doritos bag dress. Yes. Have we heard anything from Dorit or Dorit fans

about our confession? Nick's like, does she want to or no? Your confession or our confession? Is she down? Yeah, is she down? I'm sure she is. Will Mom Talk ever recover? That was good, that was good.

Well, speaking of Housewives, so I've started binging Potomac to catch up. I know Sierra has been watching it. I just want to propose this idea because it's interesting watching Reunion part three of OC that Karen Huger, which is the Grand Dame. The Grand Dame, what do you mean? That's just her name.

She's the Grand Dame of like, kind of like the Countess. Of Potomac, yes. The fact that she has that name. Iconic. And Shannon has one, of Duchess of Carmel. Thank you. Yes.

Yes. Grand Dame, she got a DUI as well. She's part of Potomac, she's been there for a while. Was it a hit and run sitch? A tree. She had a tree, but I don't think she ran. I think she's, did she run? I she's been there for a while. Was it a hit and run sitch? A tree. She hit a tree, but I don't think she ran. I think she's, did she run? I guess we don't, well we don't know,

because every time they bring it up on the show or she's questioned, she's like, I'm not gonna talk about it, I'm not talking about it. Wait for the court, wait for the court. But then every time someone brings up the court, she's like, why are you talking about it? Why would you do that? So she's not taking accountability on TV?

Well, it seems like she's trying to pose it as like, my accountability is that. I'm handling it, I'm dealing with it, you guys don't need to talk about it, but like this is the shadiest cast. With a smidge of like, I'm innocent. Yeah. The truth will come out.

Yeah. But we can't speculate, but like they'll throw parties and whatnot and be like, oh, Karen, we got you a non-alcoholic drink named after yourself, or like bring up the fact that she like, butt dialed them while intoxicated, like throwing a lot of stones at her while she's pretty much saying don't talk about it.

There were two housewives that were giggling being like, we need to take her to rehab. Now they want to eat a burrito. The egg's gonna be cold, guys, and eggs cold is not good. Have you ever had a cold egg? I have. You enjoy? Go eat your burrito.

No. Go eat your burrito. Y'all continue talking about Potomac, and I'll be right back with Jeff Lewis. That was good, that was good. Yummy, yummy, yummy. Anyways, so the reason I thought about this is because Ashley Darby just like filed for the divorce and that's also a storyline.

Like Karen Hooger to me is the bigger storyline of Potomac that I feel like. So she's taking a not a Shannon Bedor approach. Not a Shannon Bedor approach, no. She's not going into the season being like, I did that shit, I was wrong, working on myself, healing, trying. Opposite, yeah. She's pretending it didn't happen. Well, she's not pretending into the season being like, I did that shit, I was wrong, working on myself, healing, trying. Opposite, yeah.

She's pretending it didn't happen. Well, she's not pretending it didn't happen. She's more like, I'm not gonna talk about it until the courts talk about it. Exactly. Until she's trying to fight it, and she doesn't wanna implicate herself. Exactly. Well, she keeps saying

the truth will come out, and that's where it's like, it's giving a little Erika Jayne, I'm the victim, I'm innocent, because she's a repeat offender. Well, I mean, she is. Yes. Oh my God, yuck.

Yeah, it's messy. But I love Karen. Do you though? I don't. I do. Can't say that I do. She's good outside of the DUI context. Truly is.

Was this Shannon's first DUI? Yes. Yes. If Shannon gets another DUI, I will be the end of Team Shannon. We should have made some Team Shannon t-shirts that we wore. Only if there was a Team Joel one for me. We'll get you one. Sorry.

We'll get you one. Representation. Thank you. It matters. When we cover these shows, we should start making the merch of our respective positions. Okay. Like you should get a Team Meredith.

I need Team Bronwyn. Oh, you guys, I have very sad news about the Meredith Marks bath bomb. Wait, breaking news. Yeah. But you go I have very sad news about the Meredith marks bath bomb wait breaking news Yeah, but you go. This is the breaking news. Okay, my friend Andra. I love you went to the Century City Lush To see if they're running Meredith marks bath bombs and they were all sold out and apparently it was a single time limited release So the breaking news was that so we know the whole bath bomb drama drama of it all Meredith marks like four days ago, so a week ago, she posted like her holding a snowflake,

but it's like glitched out, and she was like, coming soon, and I immediately ran to Mary, and I was like, look at this. Look at this, and we both started freaking out. And then you go to the next slide, and it's like click link, and it's lush. So she released a snowflake lush bath bomb in response to the whole bath bomb drama of it all.

But then it was only, for what? Like a limited run. Yeah. And it's so sad. She made it for me. Just so she could say she sold out. I had this whole idea I was gonna get one for myself, my friend was gonna get one,

and then we were gonna get one for the show, and then they were completely gone. Make a DM to Meredith and ask for... Meredith, I have been nothing but kind to you. I can get them online. You can get them online? Snowplace like Salt Lake. I thought when I clicked they were not available.

Oh, that's not bad. Wait, they're available. 3.3 ounce. The ice cream was $12 a pint, so that's a good price. And it has a quotation, a quote from Meredith saying, everyone knows baths are my thing. $12 a pint seems like a lot. It was a lot, but it's housewives.

So I was like, gotta pay what you gotta pay. Yeah. Wait. Did the Lush employee lie to my friend? Well, this is online, so there's more stuff. I was gonna say, I'm able to order five, and I just did. They're the Lush employee with a trunk full of snowflake bath bombs. Guys, this is the best.

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and then I get kind of a headache, you know? I see, okay, well maybe they're too tight. They probably are too tight or I just have a really small head. Do you guys clean the mics and the headphones when you're done? We do. No. That's like a thing for me at the radio.

You're like, get rid of it. Because sometimes I- You don't do it or you do do it? I make them do it, but sometimes there's been a few times where I'm like- You smell it on the mic? No. Yeah, there was a few times where I smell it. I'm like, you guys need to clean this. Do you, was there a guy-

I was like, do you remember? Who left the strongest odor? Well, it used to, I don't know who it was, but it used to be Radio Andy's, the same studio. And we have, I feel like we have less people now than we did. So I feel like there was two shows before me or something, but yeah. Or, you know what? It was probably the same studio. And we have, I feel like we have less people now than we did. So I feel like there was two shows before me or something, but yeah, or, or you know what? It was probably the night before. Yeah. I think your smells okay.

That would be Natalie. Oh no. Oh no. You have good breath. Okay. Thank you. We did clean it also, so you shouldn't. You have really nice breath. Okay.

Okay. Thank God. Welcome to the show, Jeff. Thank you. Good to be with you. Oh, we already started? Yeah, we already started. This will be in the episode for sure. Okay. Jeff Lewis, everybody.

Jeff Lewis. Wow. I'm sorry, I thought we were off the air. I've been waiting to have you on my show for a while. Are you serious? Well, I don't know what took so long. You're a big deal. Yeah, you are a big deal.

You know what, I wasn't doing podcasts, actually, now that I think about it. I wasn't doing any podcasts. I really wasn't doing a lot of radio shows, but I have recently decided to do the bigger ones. Congratulations. Because they're good hits for me. But I think the problem was is that,

you know, press will pick up things I say and I know that they do that on my show. I could not agree more. Than on your show now, sorry. No, no, don't apologize at all. I'm quite particular which other ones I do just because it's kind of like, well, yeah, why don't I just say this shit on my show? Yeah, so I'm gonna particular which other ones I do just because it's kind of like, well, yeah, why don't I just say this shit on my show?

Yeah, so I'm gonna wait till Monday. Perfect, he's gonna sit here in silence and not speak. But you guys can talk. Every once in a while. Lala, I think I'm gonna do Lala's soon. Oh yeah, she's great. She reached out and I was like, yeah. I love Lala.

Okay, fine, I'll do Lala's. Did it take Lisa Barlow calling us the podcast for you to come on? No, I'll do Lala's. Did it take Lisa Barlow calling us the podcast for you to come on? No, I heard of you guys before. I did two tees, which isn't under your umbrella? No, no. I thought you guys were associated. We have Humble Braque.

Yeah, we have Humble Braque, which we just launched with Cynthia and Crystal. And who knew that that would be so successful? I love them, they're both on my show a lot, but I would never really pair them together, and it was such a great pairing. And I think I just read they were like the top 10 new podcasts or something.

Yeah, we love that for them. Congratulations. So you guys are, you both are getting a big cut of that? Well, I don't know if I am. Oh, look at that ring. Oh, well, yes, it's the Instagram brand deals. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's where it's going, Jeff.

Oh my God. Yeah. Wow, that's gorgeous. That's what combo brag is paying for. I need a podcast network like you guys have. It's nowhere near Jen's, but you know. Oh, Ped's gorgeous. That's what combo brag is paying for. I need a podcast network like you guys have. It's nowhere near Jen's, but you know. Oh, Pedranti? Yes.

Yes, it's beautiful. Was she on your, was she on the podcast? We haven't had her. We have not had Jen. Can I tell you? Yeah. You're gonna love her. You're gonna love her.

She's very different really than what is perceived, I think, on the show. I, she's been on twice. My listeners love her. She's great with Katie. I think they're both the two of the best housewives, newest housewives we've seen in a while. Really?

Yeah, but I also like Bronwyn. Okay, we're very high on Bronwyn. But I do not like Todd. I don't love him either. I do not like Todd. I don't. I invited us to go to dinner with Todd and Bronwyn. Oh, great. So, I think Todd, he's fun. Hopefully invited us to go to dinner with Todd and Brawn. Oh, great.

So I think Todd, he's fine. Hopefully you're driving yourself and you're not relying on them for transportation. We will make sure we have our own ride home for sure. They're like, we'll put you in a city cab on the way home. My theory is she's planning her escape. Brawn. I think she's becoming,

my theory is that she is creating financial independence and she's gonna bail. That's my prediction. But she doesn't need financial independence. She doesn't have a prenum. Oh, she doesn't? No. That's like all Heather will fucking talk about.

Well, I think she's on her way out. Who wouldn't be? I don't know. We had her in here last week and she spoke very highly. She seemed very in love. Of her. Yeah. She's in love.

She seemed. She seemed pretty in love. Not. She seemed. She seemed pretty in love. Not by the last few episodes. I would agree. I think, and I think she's been like, you should watch this back. And he's like, what's wrong with that? My only criticism of Jen Pedantry, is that missing her last name right?

That's fine. It's fine. Jen from OC, is that she's just a bad judge of character with some people. She seems lovely. She seems like a really nice, sweet, cool hang. It's just like, you know. Why, are you talking about Ryan?

Yeah. Have you met him? I have met Ryan. What do you think? I liked Ryan. I thought he was very personable and very friendly. And I mean, I don't know. I mean, you gotta respect somebody

that takes in five kids and supports them. That is true. You know, and he opened up his home when she lost her home. Gave her his car? I don't know, you gotta give a guy respect. I just wanna make sure that that home's not going anywhere. Well, I mean, look, I don't know what's happening. I have no idea.

But I really appreciate the context around Jen because we haven't met her and it's always nice to hear people who have met the people we sometimes talk about on the show. Well, I don't like, you know, they make her sound dumb. Like I don't think she's a dumb person, meaning the castmates will refer to her as dumb. And I don't like that because, you know, I've met her and I find, I found her to

be very bright. I think you guys will too. Tell us more about Katie. I think Katie is extremely bright, articulate. Um, I think she's no nonsense, you know, in regards to the Orange County, did she make a few mistakes? Well, she's a rookie. Of course she's going to make a few mistakes, but you know, I think she's no nonsense. You know, in regards to the Orange County, did she make a few mistakes? She's a rookie, of course she's gonna make a few mistakes. But you know, I think what you should be talking about

is this craziness that happened on the reunion last night, Vosi. Which I don't know if you know, but I was kind of involved in all of this, like Shannon Bedor and you know, the night of the DUI, I obviously was privy to all of that information because we're close friends, but I'm the one that said to Shannon two weeks after the accident, I said, I don't see, I was kind of piecing it all together and I'm like, I don't see how he

didn't hear the accident because, and I brought this up before on my show, but I've been to that house and the front door, so it's on the water and the garage is on the street. And then you walk all the way down the side of the house to get to the front door. So I was going through the timeline in my head because Shannon said the accident happened right away. They got into an argument on the driveway. The accident happened almost immediately. And I was like, Shannon, I was thinking about this.

I don't think he was in the house. I think he was still outside when it happened. And that would have been a very, very loud crash. And the fact that he didn't, I said, I don't see how he didn't hear that. And I said, but I don't know for certain. Right. But it's possible he could have gotten to the home before the crash. If he ran. That's what I said today. I'm like, unless, you know, if he ran, I guess he could have gotten to the home quickly. But then is the house so quiet

that you wouldn't hear a big accident outside? Like I hear a car door shut in my house, you know, from outside. So it's like a car crash. True, I hear like every neighbor's dog barking, everything. So I'm the one that brought that up. And you know, they wanted me to go on OC Housewives and talk about it.

Why didn't you? But they wouldn't, because Bravo would not indemnify me. And I was worried because John Janssen is obviously clearly so litigious. And I'm very careful with my words. I don't know. I don't know if he heard it or didn't hear it. Well, at the time, I didn't know if he heard it

or didn't hear it and whatever. I just didn't understand how he couldn't and how he got to the front door so quickly. So it turns out that as, if you watch the third part of the reunion, I didn't even see this. Shane told me this morning on the way to work and I was like, no fucking way,

where he apparently, allegedly, we didn't hear this out of his mouth, but he allegedly admitted to Heather and Tamara that he heard the accident. So I feel a little vindicated because we've been talking about this for months and months and months and months. And oh, so I didn't go on OC Housewives because Bravo would not indemnify me and justifiably so because, you know, right afterwards he had sued her for the, you know,

the alleged loan, which now has been settled. What correct my timeline because were they, was the bridesmaids dresses party that they went out to dinner after and John Jansen told them this, allegedly told them that he heard the crash. Did they go to London after that? I don't know because Shane's shaking his head no. I haven't. Okay. After the finale.

Yeah, remember they were all talking in the cars. Okay, but then Shannon found out after the reunion, right? Okay, it's insane. I mean, I just, because I just found out this morning and my head is still spinning. And so I call, that's why I called Shannon. Like I fucking write this whole time. I knew it. I knew we heard it. And then, but it's still, okay. Now we know they were outside. Okay. So that apparently they were both on the driveway.

Now I know exactly where, which house, which was only like three houses over to the right. And apparently he sends, he hears this big crash and allegedly sends his daughter to go investigate. I don't know. We were talking about this today. I, you know. And apparently he's so traumatized by Shannon almost hitting his daughter.

Allegedly. Allegedly. That's in his ring camera videos. That he can't possibly get over what Shannon did. I see. Yeah. The videos, the videos. The videos. They kept talking about the videos.

And I'm like, I don't give a fuck what's on the video. I just think if you're dating anyone, I think if you witnessed, well, because I had that accident, there was that accident in Laurel Canyon that I just kept going. But there is, I think in more normal circumstances, if any of you, if I witness, you know,

a car accident out front that you were involved in, I would go and help someone, even if they were my enemies. I know you're gonna bring up the Laurel Canyon, that's Shane. He was my assistant, but he changed his title to Chief of Staff, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Do I need Chief of Staff?

Yeah, he's my Chief of Staff. He's presidential. You keep bringing up Laurel Canyon because I did witness an accident on Laurel Canyon. There was a guy on a scooter. He did crash on Laurel Canyon and I just felt like it was too dangerous for me to stop. Yeah, Laurel Canyon is a very windy-

You shouldn't be stopping. Two-lane, you know, canyon hill. It's windy. People are gonna hit me. Yeah, people are gonna hit you. And they're driving too fast. Way too fast. Way too fast. On their phones, down the hill. And by. Yeah, people are gonna hit you. And they're driving too fast. Way too fast.

Way too fast. On their phones, down the hill. And by the way, this guy on the scooter, he hit a pothole and then like crashed to the right. Like a lime scooter type of thing or like a moped? You know what, I'm embarrassed for him because I think he actually owned it. Oh.

Yeah, I think he actually owns the scooter and rides it on the regular. That's unfortunate. Yeah, you know, I kind of felt sorry for him. No, of course. And so you're telling people that you saw this wreck and didn't stop. I made the mistake of telling it on radio

that I witnessed the wreck, but someone else pulled over. So I knew that he was taken care of. Did you catch heat? You know what, it happened so fast and I would have to like pull over and yes, I would have to pull over and back up on Laurel Canyon. Then maybe you could possibly get hit and then that's two accidents.

And I just got my car and it's like... And you were hungry, you hadn't had lunch yet, you needed to get to the restaurant. It was just washing. Well, my car is like the first edition and I waited a year for it. And I'm like, I can't risk someone hitting it. Exactly. No, it all makes sense. I love that car. I watched you on Watch What Happens Live when you were absolutely roasted Roni

because I feel the exact same way that it sucks, it's terrible, they need to end it. It feels so overproduced. Do you still stand by that watching more episodes? So I love Real Housewives of New York City because I can see its potential. Ah. And so, because people are like,

you, that's your favorite. When are they gonna reach it? Yeah, well, it might take a little longer. Okay. I just, you know, I think they're amazing characters and very interesting women. I completely agree with that. They seem like sophisticated.

I wanna be friends with all of them. I don't know about all of them, but I'm friends with a few. But they seem like, they're just not messy enough and they're just not problematic. Because they're too self edited. Yeah. They are messy. They're all messy, and they're just not problematic. It's just like- Because they're too self edited. Yeah.

They are messy. They're all messy. I promise you. They're all messy. As a person, Lisa Barlow, not my fave. I don't never met her, but as she projects on the TV screen. She's one of my absolute, she's pretty much our queen. Don't you think, Shane?

Top tier. As a housewife or as a human being? Both. Yeah, I love Lisa Barlow. We need to meet her. We need to meet her. We need to have her on. You're actually gonna really like her.

Honestly, that happens all the time. Every time you meet someone, you're like, oh, I love you. She pitched herself to come on the show and then was like, but I don't wanna talk about the show. And we're like, well, then we don't want you. What she can talk about, Tequila. Yeah, exactly.

She'll talk about the show. She talked about the show with us, didn't she? Yeah. At length. At length, she'll talk about the show. That's funny. I would have her on. At length, she'll talk about the show. That's funny. I would have her on. Well, Lisa, you're welcome to come. Yeah, I don't know if she will now

since everything has transpired with Whitney and all of that. But anyways, back to Roni, how do you feel about this whole prank thing that Rebecca started, the rumor? I'm not okay with it at all, at all, with the pranks. I think it just, it kind of sent us like, on a tailspin for like what, two episodes?

And then it turned out, and I was, I'm invested. So I'm invested. So then now I'm like, oh my God. And then it's, you just feel like the rug got pulled out from underneath you and then now I don't trust them. And now how do I know that in episode nine, whatever they're talking about even is real because you already pranked us once.

So they've lost my trust. They pulled the curtain back almost. Yeah, but I think that's a producer error. But it was also like, they had this idea of let's find the mole, which was like, could be kind of a good idea, but then you told everyone it was a prank. And then they all acted like it wasn't a prank.

So you see its potential, paint us the picture of Roni at its peak. What does that look like? Who's doing what? I have changed my mind about bringing in a few OGs. I think maybe, what if we brought in, what if we got rid of a couple and then we brought in a couple OGs to shake it up?

Who are we killing? Quote, unquote. And who are we bringing back? We have to get rid of Rebecca, right? We have to. I mean, I'm sure she's a nice person. She seems lovely. Yeah.

But she doesn't wanna talk about Scientology unless she wants to promote it. And it's like, eh. Actually, she's, okay, so I'm friends with Erin and Sai and yeah, Ube just came on the show. So they're three, but she's also very self edited, Rebecca. And she has, I mean, I get it. She's got a big business, a lot to protect.

What the fuck are you doing on Housewives? Yeah. And I don't get that. I just, I, cause I've been around for a long time. I know I look young, but I've been around for a long time and they, I always, I'm always perplexed by the people that have money and they just want to do this for fame.

Most of us are hustling to make a buck. Yeah. And that's why we do this. I could give a shit about fame. And actually I, when flipping out originally started, I remember my, my business part partner at the time, you know, we would have these discussions. I'm like, do you think I want to be the front man? Like I'd love to be you. I'd love to be you and come in for a few scenes here and there.

Cause I was taking all the heat and then, and take 50% of the earnings. That's what was happening with my business partner. But he actually, we, he ended up wanting the fame. Um, but I just, I just wanted money. That's all I really want is money. The only reason I'm even going back to Bravo. The only reason I'm going back to Bravo is for the platform, the platform, which by the way will hopefully bring people, listeners, to the radio, subscribers to SiriusXM. It's a commercial for the radio.

That's why I'm doing it. This title is so beautiful. Jeff Lewis needs your money. Jeff Lewis, yes. We need your money, all of us, all of us. But Rebecca. Rebecca doesn't need our money. Rebecca doesn't need our money.

Well, I think she does need us to buy her purses. She says it's a $100 million business. What more? Yeah. After $100 million, I'm out. I mean, I can't imagine them bringing you back. I mean, there were times where she would show up in a scene. I'm like, oh yeah, she's on the show.

That's not a good sign. Yeah, that's not. That's not. So Rebecca would go, do you like Brynn? Okay, here's the thing. There's, I personally don't like Brynn, but I can separate myself, right? I can be like, okay, I'm a viewer

and I really kind of enjoy hating this person. And I think I would miss hating this person as a viewer. So I personally don't like her, but I'm not gonna eliminate her because of how I feel personally. What did she do to you? I think you have to have a villain. Yeah.

I think you have to have a villain. Have to, at least one. Right, and I think she's become a villain. What did she do? Why do you hate her? Do you not watch the show? Your show? Not my show, don't care about it.

New York? New York, are you watching it? We're watching it. I mean, I have checked out before. She's two-faced, she's lying left and right, she's exaggerating, she's completely divisive. Spitting stories. She's spitting stories, she's taking,

she's doing damage to what are good relationships. And I don't like that, she's purposely coming in between friends. And I don't like that kind of behavior. Although I do it every day on the radio. I don't like it when other people do it. I can do it. What's the difference between that and what Lisa does?

Oh, you think Lisa's divisive? It's never Lisa's fault. I've never seen Lisa ever been like- She has an accountability issue, for sure. For sure. Like, Browen, it's just like she shows up and she's kind of like, yeah, whatever, fuck it, I say shit.

It's never Lisa's fault, ever, ever. That is true. And the whole like, I don't fly coach is not impressive. Okay, but all right. I don't. You don't fly coach. If I have to. No, no, say it.

If I have to. No, I will, but like, you're not. On a short flight. Sure. On a short flight if I have to. Well, you don't love it, but Lisa puts on this performance as if it's beneath her and she won't possibly do it. And it's all seems to be an act to project her wealth.

I wanna go home. So for me, like I don't wanna fly to LA and spend the night in LA. And you know, if I were her, like I wanna go home. I don't care, like put me in row 45. Am I gonna love it? No, but I wanna go home. So I'll, you know, my preference is when I book a flight

that I get business or first, but if I can't and I really need to get home or I really need to get someplace and I've got to take, you know, that particular flight, then I'll fly coach. Just fortunately it doesn't happen very often. But I feel like, what would you say to me saying Brynn seems like the only one working? Is she working?

Well, it seems like I don't saying Brynn seems like the only one working? Is she working? Well, it seems like I don't know. She is stirring the pot. It seems like she is trying to create the drama that we're all missing. Oh, I thought you were talking about working, like. Like clunking into her nine to five. I am, yeah.

That's what I'm confused about, but yes. You're right, because it seems like you're right. You're right about all those things about Brynn. She's doing all these things, and I just feel like, you know, it's like an improv. It's like you make a joke, and then you want your partner to yes and you. And like, no one's yes anding feel like, you know, it's like an improv, it's like you make a joke and then you want your partner to yes and you and like no one's yes anding Brynn, you know,

cause she's messy and everyone's just kind of like, yeah, well we don't wanna be messy. That's why I'm not getting rid of her. Yeah. That's why I said I'm not getting rid of her. I'm leaving her. Okay. I actually don't think Jenna's adding a lot,

but people do. She's just so cool. I like- Jessel? I would keep Jessel. I love Jessel. I'm keeping Erin, I'm keeping Uba, I'm keeping Sai, I'm keeping Jessel, I'm probably getting rid of Jenna.

I'm gonna leave Bryn just so we can have a villain. Sure. And I do think if you brought in an OG like Dorinda, I think she would just devour her in one, in the very first scene. And I kinda wanna see the carnage. Yeah, that'd be good. That would be so good.

So maybe I'm bringing back back Dorinda and the Countess and one other. I'm not sure which one. Because I don't think it would be Sonia. No. I just find her to be very messy and a liability. What about the Countess, Luanne? Yes, she's on my list.

Countess for sure. Countess and Dorinda, maybe I'm bringing back three OGs. Okay. And getting rid of two or three. Have you pitched this idea to Bravo and they're like, we're not doing that or? No, Andy and I were actually talking about it because I was on Watch What Happens last week.

We were talking about it and he said, I'll be honest with you, he said, he goes, a lot of people are missing the OGs. I just don't know how that works. Ramona lives in Florida. Sonia lives in Florida. Logistically, how do we do this? You could ask him to move.

But he also loves the new cast, and I think he's like me, where you can only fake it for so long. For me, it lasted literally two weeks. Literally two weeks. I was trying so hard to protect myself, and it's exhausting thinking. It's exhausting thinking about what you're gonna say

before you say it. Oh yeah, I couldn't have had this. It takes a lot of brain power. And I found you say it. Oh yeah, I couldn't. It takes a lot of brain power. And I found myself very tired. So finally I was like, after two weeks, I was like, fuck it, I don't care. Do you remember season one when all they thought about was the cheese?

Yes, I do remember that. Like, I just need them to like hate each other a little bit more. I'm not ready to pull the plug on them. Okay. I'm not ready. Okay. Are you ready to pull the plug on Alexis Bellino?

Have you met her? Yes, actually, it's a shame because Alexis and I were friendly and actually she attended one of my live events and we like hung out backstage. This was pre, pre, pre everything. And I actually really liked Alexis and it's a shame because I had to choose sides, you know,

and I hate being in that position, but I had to choose sides. And I'm very close with Shannon and I actually didn't like the situation either. So even if they were both really like good friends, I don't like the situation. It feels like part three was like the death of Alexis Bolino on Bravo. All right, so I'm not gonna criticize anyone,

but I noticed that you have a lot of people working here and not one person brought water that I had. Right there. Oh, I'm sorry, okay. Never mind. Wow. I'm sorry. Oh, you're getting a little,

oh, you're getting a little taste of what it's like to work for me. Messy. Thank you for the water who ever brought that. Do you need anything else? I'm good, I'm good, thank you, Meg. I'm really good now, thank you. I did fan Luanne while she was here. Yes, you did.

Did you really? I love her, she's such a great time. She's actually, she made a big impact on my life. Say more. I've had her on my show a few times, and after the show, I was in New York, and I said, let's go to lunch. And we had, I wouldn't say it was a boozy lunch.

What constitutes boozy? I had two drinks. Is that boozy? I don't think two drinks is boozy, but whatever. I think if you don't finish the first one, not boozy. It's a business lunch. Sure, tax write off. It's two drinks.

Did you feel lighter after lunch? I started talking to her, cause you know about her life and you know about her life and you know her perspective on things now. I mean, she's all about, this is the second half of my life. This is, you know, I'm just gonna have fun. I'm not gonna do anything I don't wanna do.

And living in the moment, taking all these opportunities. And I'm like, I need to like take a page out of that handbook. And I really have been consciously doing things that I don't really wanna do, but I do it, I'm like, God, I had fun. Or I'm really trying to create more balance in my life. Are you saying yes more?

I'm saying yes more. I do feel like every adult at some point in their life enters in like a curmudgeon-y stage, where you just kind of get grumpier. That was the first part of my life. Yeah. And then you realize that maybe I could be a little less grumpy.

Yeah, I could be more fun. I'm less stressed than I was. I think a lot of it had to do, I was a young kid, well I thought I was young, but I was in my mid-30s and I had the weight of the world on my shoulders and I had so much stress that no one that age should have. I had all these employees and all of these contractors and subcontractors that were relying on me.

I had multiple homes. I had investors. I had bank loans and it was almost a little, it was probably a shell game really, where I needed the money out of this house to then put in the second house and the third house. It was so much pressure and stress. And I think that had a lot to do with how I behaved. And so now, you know, financially things are calmer and I always talk about this

too, I think to chase that, let's just say someone's making 50,000 a year, and that was never enough for me. Like I always wanted more and more and more. And I would take on things that I really shouldn't do to make another five or 10 grand. And I realized to make that other five or 10 grand, it was killing me. And in the end, it really didn't change my life.

Making that extra 10% didn't change my life. And I had no balance whatsoever. And that is really truly the reason why my, my long-term relationship failed is because we weren't investing in the relationship. It was all about chasing work, chasing money. And I think we both had a little fear of scarcity. And I came from a family that was somewhat affluent, but there was a lot of, my dad was an entrepreneur and there was a lot of ups and downs.

And so it wasn't like consistent and with him, I think it was the same. So we were always afraid to turn down business, but when we did that, we took on too much and at the toll of our relationship and And honestly, not just our relationship, friendships, family relationships, you just weren't investing at all. And that was probably one of the biggest mistakes that I have made. And so now it's hard for me though,

I turn things down a lot, much like this podcast. I turn things down. You wouldn't leave me alone about so if I... Right. So I think that's been my biggest mistake in the past. And I also wasn't, I didn't have the emotional tools to deal with anxiety and stress. So I would act out, obviously there's 11 seasons of it.

I would act out every which way on every person and innocent people, some were not innocent, but a lot were. And I remember my reactions were so big because I just was like, I was already on the brink ready to explode. So I don't know, I bet this next show is gonna be boring. I mean, I'm still a little eccentric,

but I don't blow up like I used to. I think it shows growth. I think it's kind of weird when we see, I think TV, they made TV different back in the early 2000s. And if you're gonna come on TV now and act the same way, it's kind of like. Well, I will say too, I worry, because I'm good friends with Patti Stanger.

I don't feel like she has evolved. And I think. I work with has evolved. And I think- I work with her too. I love Patty. I love Patty and I love her character on TV. Yeah. But people aren't that way anymore. You can't, I mean, I used to do it.

Don't get me wrong, but- But you would like Patty? No, you know, I would kind of mistreat people. I would speak to people, you know, it was not very favorable how I spoke to people and I will say I mistreated people. And- How would you have asked for that water before?

Like you were like, I just will say, you have a lot of people working for you and like no one brought me the water. But see, isn't that passive aggressive and bitchy? It was a little, but like I feel like it was definitely nicer than being like where the fuck. It's better than where's my fucking water. Yeah, like where's the water asked for?

What the fuck? You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. Patty would do that. But I'd be like, how many times I have to better than where's my fucking water? Yeah, like where's the water asked for? What the fuck? You know what I mean? Patty would do that. But I'd be like, how many times I have to ask for water? You know, yeah, whatever, Patty would do that. You know, Nick hosted her revamp of- I know, I was on it. I didn't film with him there.

Oh, oh. But I do remember filming with Patty and apologizing to a lot of people. I did nothing to for Patty. Yeah, yeah. So I think you, you know, we got rewarded for that behavior back then. Yeah.

And it's a different time. And you can't get away with that stuff anymore. You just can't. You have to evolve. And you know, I think she probably, again, dear friend of mine, I think she has a big heart. She's always been good to me, but I think there needs to be some evolving.

Fair. We'll leave it at that. Yeah. And do you think Alexis Bellino is evolving? I think she's blindly defending, I hate saying Johnny Jay, cause I know him as John Jensen. Yeah.

Cause I know- But I feel like Johnny Jay is, he can't see you cause it's Johnny Jay, you know? Oh. Right? It's the way around it, no? No, I think he- Well, anyone can sue anyone for anything, so.

But I just- We weren't talking about him. And honestly- The old guy in the- This thing that, he looks good though. He does look good. I think he looks pretty good. His new teeth look pretty good.

I mean, I have to give him that. He does physically look good in some of those confessionals. Again, I don't agree with the situation. I don't, if he did indeed hear the accident, which we didn't hear this from him though, that's the way to be careful about. So this is just hearsay. So we're gonna be careful about that.

Allegedly. How did you feel about Heather twisting the Shannon on your show talking about the whole, did she hear the crash and making it? Well, I was upset for Shannon because, did tell her that in confidence and then she leaked it to the rest of the group, but then the rest of the group saying that they already knew about it. There's always gossip and leaks and you can never really trust them at all, not to repeat

things. But I think what really bothers me, which has sent me reeling today, and this is why I called Shannon because apparently you know Heather and Tamron had this information for months and they just did a three part reunion. Why was this not brought up and why like what was the goal and the motive of of omitting that information? Yeah it is weird. Especially when the whole season is about it. The whole season. And now you get, you have the smoking gun. You got the smoking gun and you choose not to say anything, even during the reunion.

And then the only reason that they, you know, Shannon found out because she ran into them at a restaurant afterwards. Did you know about this? Oh, after they filmed the reunion. They filmed the reunion. She goes to steak 48 with a couple of people and they run into, I think John Jansen was there, Alexis was there, Heather was there, Tamara was there. And I guess Heather, she spoke to Heather

and then Heather spelled it. Took it in the middle of the restaurant. Pretty much. Wow. Like it was nothing. Yeah. And then I don't know if I'm allowed to say how it all goes down,

but they ended up picking cameras back up. Yeah. Someone called somebody. Somebody called somebody. Yeah. And notified them. Somebody called somebody. Yeah. And notified them. And then they were like, what the fuck? Like we gotta-

Set a scene. We gotta do this. I don't know why you would not- Yeah, do you trust Tamra after- It puts me in a bad, this puts me in a difficult position because I'm friends with Tamra. But I mean, I'm gonna ask her,

like I'm gonna hear out, why would you not repeat this information? I mean, I think they gave the whole, we just didn't ever know when to bring it up, it was just such a big bomb. Well, you could have brought it up in part one, part two, or part three of the reunion. That would have been a good time.

Or at the finale, that would have been a good time too. Or the episode before that. It felt like Tamara, especially given her performance all season long, that she just was almost decided she wasn't gonna participate at the reunion. And Noah was almost kinda like, didn't know what to say, so she said nothing at all. She was pretty mute the whole reunion.

Yeah, well I heard a rumor. It's like she heard the feedback. I heard a rumor she was on Xanax. So she wouldn't. That she wouldn't. React, and I'm gonna start doing that. Honestly. You should've given me a Xanax before she wouldn't react. And I'm gonna start doing that. You should have given me a Xanax where I walked in. Yeah.

She was like, oh, I got a hug and everyone's crying cause I did something right, great. Yeah, cause she was an unusually calm Tamara. Do you think they're all gonna come back next season or you think Alexis is gonna be? I don't see how her storyline continues. So as a viewer, I kind of want to keep them. Yeah.

But it's like, I mean, I feel like I'm betraying my friend, but again, I can separate. There's, I'm friends with them off camera and then I'm also an avid viewer fan. So I kind of like hating them. You need someone to hate. You do need someone to hate. Do you think Shannon's-

We can go back to hating Heather. I was gonna say. I did that for years. But then we made up, but now I don't know. Like now I wanna know, why didn't you help out our friend here? And why did you bring up something from 10 years ago for Katie?

Yeah, that was weird. Heather's miscast on OC. You think? It's hard for me to watch someone tour their mansion, talk about their money, and then have Heather listen to Jen talk about not being able to afford rent. It just puts, it makes Heather look bad.

And I don't expect Heather to pay for Jen's rent, but it's like, you shouldn't be hanging out with poor people if you're so rich. I kind of like seeing the opposite extremes. Sure, but it just always puts Heather in a bad light. Heather puts Heather in a bad light. Okay, say more. No, I don't wanna cause any problems

because we're good. But look, I'm responsible for the things I do and say, and I own it, and I get dragged every fucking day of the week, and I'm used to it. I piss off somebody every single day, and I'm responsible. But we get, you know, I'm immune to it at this point. I was trained for this. I mean, there is literally nothing you can say about me

that hasn't been said. Do you read or listen or go looking for what people say? Or you are like kind of- I live in a bubble. Yeah. And it is a, and I talk about this all the time. It is a very happy place, my bubble. So I don't, I'll read my Instagram comments,

but I don't go, I will stay, I stay away. We have all these like fan, you know, pages and things like that. I stay away from all of them. I don't read Reddit. I don't even wanna I will stay, I stay away. We have all these like fan, you know, pages and things like that. I stay away from all of them. I don't read Reddit. I don't even wanna fucking hear about it. So I do just live in a bubble. And it's really, it's a very nice place

if you wanna visit. I would love to visit. When is it available? We're not concerned about what happens outside the bubble. I love that. I love that. We have a similar bubble. We do have a similar bubble. I love that. I love that. We have a similar bubble. We do have a similar bubble.

You have to. It's just us and our daughter. Well, I think when you're public people and you have a big platform, I think you're gonna be open to more criticism and trolls and all of that. I also can own what I do. Sometimes people are wrong,

but sometimes I might get a negative comment and I'm like, well, yeah, you might be right. You know what I mean? But I don't want to give them the satisfaction. But yeah, I'm like, well, okay. I could be a little of that. Yeah. You're just an entertainer. Yeah. I don't let it ruin my day, my life, my, you know, I just don't, I don't let it do that. Cause you, you know, if you really go down that road, the Reddit is awful. But you could just ruin your whole day weekend. I've seen it ruin people's lives.

But I've said this over and over. It's the best advice Andy Cohen gave me. It was within the first two weeks of flipping out, airing, and people misunderstood me, or they probably understood me. And it was a lot of negative and Andy's like, stop, stop reading. Don't believe the good, don't believe the bad.

And ever since then, it's been a nice. Bliss. Yeah. It handcuffs you creatively. I have no idea what's going on outside this wall. So there you go. Nothing. No.

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returns. Quinn's.com slash viall. How are you feeling about Bev Hills, episode one? I'm feeling good about it. Nick wants to invite Dereet to have a threesome with us. That's not true. It's a very interesting conversation that happened on air for the first time. I just have a small crush on her.

She's so hot. But you think she'd be good in bed? I haven't gotten that far in fantasy. You haven't thought about it? Yeah, no. He asked, he thought about if they would be compatible or not, so. I'm thinking no.

I don't know. Well, she has been dealing with PK. So I can't imagine he is anything. And she's letting loose, lighting up the cigarettes. To write home about. Like, she might be a good time now. She might be a good time now.

She's not my favorite. Again, I like watching her. lighten up the cigarettes. Like she might be a good time now. She might be a good time now. She's not my favorite. Again, I like watching her. Who is your favorite on Beville's? Okay, name that there's, I like Kyle. I like Kyle a lot. Sutton, Garcelle. I love Sutton, I love Garcelle.

Erica. I like Erica. I don't know Erica very well. I feel like I could like her, but I don't know her very well. I do hang out. I probably hang out the most with Sutton. And Kyle, Kyle I see frequently.

Well, kind of somewhat frequently. And then who else is on there? Doreet and Marcel, Erica and the new one, Bozeman. I like Kathy. Yeah, that's kind of it really. Again, I don't really love Doreet personally, but I like watching Doreet. Have you met her personally? Yes, she's kind of it really. Again, I don't really love Dorit personally, but I like watching Dorit. Have you met her personally?

Yes, she's blocked me on Instagram. I don't know what I said. I don't know what I said, but yeah, she's blocked me. I hate that, doesn't make me like her. I don't really care. I kind of wish you remembered what you said. You probably didn't even know. I tried to invite her to a party

and then I'm like, it's not going through. And then I'm like, she blocked me. Why did she block me? And then I ran into her BravoCon. I'm like, hey, she was walking really fast like to her next event. And I was like walking behind her. And I said, hey, Dre, you blocked me on Instagram.

She's like, yeah, I probably did because you probably said something shitty. And then she kept, and I laughed and then she kept walking away. That was it. Kind of iconic. It was kind of. That's better than, yeah, because I was like then she kept walking away. That was it. Kind of iconic though. It was kind of. That's better than, yeah.

Cause I was like, yeah, I probably did. I'm kind of impressed by her response. Cause a lot of people in her position, I would have been like, did I? And like play dumb. Yeah, no. My sister did. She liked to don't remember.

She knew it. She probably knows exactly what I said too. But yeah, that was kind of a funny exchange. That is funny. I have a house project for you at our house, if you wanna. Where do you guys live? We're here in the Valley.

How many kids, one? One. How old? Nine months. Ooh, baby, baby, baby. Baby, baby. What's your daughter's name? Monroe. Beautiful.

Thank you. Wow. She's, when did she just turn? She's turned eight, just turned eight. Is she, what's her personality like? Sassy, quiet? She's sweet with me. She's good at school.

She's very good at school. She's stubborn. She's strong, very strong, very stubborn, very opinionated. Does she get that from you? Has no issue with conflict with me. Has no problem, like taking me on. And she did yesterday over,

and tell me if there's something wrong. So I understand, I keep calling myself a new parent, but it's been eight years. So I can't really use that excuse anymore, but I'm still trying to figure out, like I've never had an eight year old. That's what I'm saying. Every year, every day is new.

So I am kind of a new parent that way. So on Sunday, she was not behaving well. I don't say, because I made the mistake before on the radio of saying she was being a little bitch and people got really mad at me. So now I don't say that anymore. So I'm gonna say that she was misbehaving. She wasn't listening.

She was not cooperative. And all I did was I said, look, today wasn't great for you. I said, I'm gonna rate you a five out of 10. And she was so mad. She's like, well, no one's perfect. And that is average. I said, actually it's not average. I said, you got five out of 10, which is 50%,

which is an F. I said, you did not pass. And so, but then we start arguing about it. She's like, well, I don't, I mean, what did I do? What did I do this and that? And so she's still so mad at me about raiding her. But this is what happened last yesterday. So I pick her up, we go to the new house, we have a house under construction, and then we go to a Puyo Loco, which I love. She didn't seem to love it, but I loved it. And I just wanna say, so I dropped her off at her other dads and I said, hey, and by the way, she's been really pissed

about me rating her. She's like, I can't believe that. As a parent, you would rate me and who does that? Who rates? She's shamed you. She's eight, yeah. And I'm like, is this really that bad? Like to rate, I'm like, I'm rating her behavior.

And so after all of this, cause she came, I picked her up from her dad's, he probably coaches her cause he hates me. So she probably went home and said, dad called me a five. Yeah. And by the way, he texted me about it. And I'm like, to be clear, I was not rating her appearance because she's fucking gorgeous.

Like she's a 10. I said, I was rating her behavior. And I don gorgeous. Like she's a 10. I said I was rating her behavior and I don't see anything wrong with rating your behavior. So she came in hot when I picked her up yesterday and she immediately starts with the rating again. I'm like, we're having this conversation again? And then, but when I dropped her off, I'm like, hey, I had a lot of fun with you.

I said, I'm gonna rate you a 10 out of 10. And she's like, thanks daddy. So as long as I rate her well, we're good. She just doesn't want a bad grade. Listen, she's studious. But do you think there's anything wrong with that? Am I like- No, I don't at all. Rating your kid's behavior.

Yes, it's like, listen, you were bad today, you get an F. Well, my ex sent me a not so nice text about it. And then he put us on a group text with her therapist. Oh boy. She's apparently shaming me. Oh my God. Is a therapist like we need to- What I love about her, she doesn't even respond because she's like, she's probably like,

I'm not your fucking marriage counselor. Like I talk to your kid once a week. You know what I mean? And I was like, think why the hell are you putting us on a group text and complaining about me to our child's therapist? Get your own therapist. Truly.

Yeah. It's co-parenting, that must be tough. It's called parallel parenting. There's no co-parenting happening between he and I. Nothing, yeah. But yeah, so he tries to suck her in, but she doesn't respond. So are you the favorite? I don't know. I really nothing, yeah. But yeah, so he tries to suck her in, but she doesn't respond. So are you the favorite?

I don't know, I really don't know. I don't think, honestly, I think she dislikes both of us. I mean, and I understand why, I do. I get it. Yeah, we're both like fucking nightmares. That's funny. Do you think Kyle's gonna be more open about her life this season?

Are we gonna have to still do the whole like? You're not a lesbian? Yeah. Oh, fuck. No, I don't wanna, like we're friends and I sent her an orchid when I called her a lesbian. I mean, it was a joke. An orchid.

Yeah, that's my thing. I send orchids or now books, books.com. It's real easy, it's inexpensive. So you go to your friend's house, like what did Jeff say about you now? I send a lot of flowers. You see a bunch of orchids. Yeah.

I send a lot of flowers, because I'm finding that I do- Is that what we should do? I apologize a lot, but flowers tend to do it. Okay, are you apologizing on air, or are you like texting them, being like, sorry, I said this? And do you know for sure if they are listening to your show,

because I find what happens more often than not. I know what you're gonna say. As you will say, I don't know, something kind of benign. Maybe there's a small criticism baked in with a bunch of praise, but some annoying fan who wants to protect whoever the fuck, let's say it's Dorit in this case,

well then DM Dorit and say, do you know what Jeff Lewis said about you? It's a shit-stirring care. And you're absolutely right. And it gets people all fired up. And now I just respond, it's probably Brynn. And I now respond, did you actually hear the show? No, I didn't hear it, but I heard from blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, well, this is what I said. And I encourage you to actually listen to what I said. Cause this has been exaggerated and twisted. I don't know how many texts I respond to a week where I'm like, did you hear the show? Wow, you piss a lot of people off, huh? Yes, I do.

But sometimes it's, I think like the criticism is unwarranted because they didn't hear it. Right. And that's not what I said. You said it with love also. Also, no, but not, no, I don't even think he said it. He said some out some context version. We need a support group for podcasters.

You know what, we should get on a group text with Monroe's therapist. It's called long form tears. This week we'll talk about the rating. Next week, can we talk about how people don't listen to the actual show and they just send highlights to people. Just listen to clips.

Why don't you listen to a whole episode? Yeah, but that happens all the time. But I do send a lot of, sometimes I do say, yeah. A lot of times it is me and then I apologize. Have you ever responded, you're welcome for talking about you? No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't do that.

Yeah, no. But you are. I'm not, I'm actually, look, if I'm trying to like make amends, that's probably not a good idea. Yeah, sure. And I've always, I get, you know, callers. I disagree with you, you did this. I really, I try to listen to, do you guys say-

Oh, that's great. You don't take callers. He does. Not on our reality TV type of stuff. So we do take callers and some people are mad at me about what I said or did and I listen and sometimes I agree with them and sometimes I don't agree but I don't like go after people.

I'm very calm about it and listen because I have respect for my listeners. So I'm never gonna like berate somebody publicly because you disagree with me. Well, we invite people to disagree. I do too. I always take those. That's the point of the show.

You're right. Whenever I see, because we have screeners and they like type, they'll type what they're calling about. If they're ever mad at me, I always take that call. I just want them to care. I actually love it. I just want them to care. I just want them to care.

That's kind of my favorite part about the show. Are the hate calls. Really? You're brave. Usually people like that, that call in really angry, they kind of hang themselves. Do you know what I'm saying? Like sometimes you just give people a rope.

Like if you just kind of sit back and like are calm, you kind of give them rope and they just kind of hang themselves. They can't possibly be angry at you. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing. It's a projection of something else. Right, right, right.

Well, sometimes they can be, but sometimes it has nothing to do with me and's a projection of something else. Right, right, right. Well, sometimes they can be, but sometimes it has nothing to do with me and they're mad about something else. So I don't know what happened yesterday. I do know what happened. Somebody had sent me a text because it was a funny bit that we were doing on the show where we gave an eighth grade spelling bee

to somebody who like really, like really failed, really failed. And so we thought it was so funny. And then like some guy was calling me like, you're a motherfucker, you're a douche, you're this, how could you do that? And then, so today I got a text during it and someone was like, oh my God,

I'm gonna throw myself off a bridge, bridge B-R-I-D-G-E, cause we were doing Spelling Bee. And I thought it was funny, so I read it. And then today I had a call which I did not take, which is like, don't make fun of suicide. Like, you know, and it was funny, so I read it. And then today I had a call, which I did not take, which is like, don't make fun of suicide. Like, you know, and I was like, I'm not gonna take that call

because I already know what's gonna happen. They had some sort of personal story and that joke, and it was a joke, no one's jumping off a bridge, but they were gonna make it personal. And I just was like, okay, that's, I'm not gonna take that call. Can't do it. No. Did you take Meredith Tiffany's bangs personal?

Cause I did. Meredith. Audrey Hepburn. Her Audrey Hepburn, breakfast at Tiffany's, Salt Lake City, real housewives of Salt Lake City in Utah. Did you keep up? Are you on?

They're currently, they were at Mary's house having a breakfast at Tiffany's. I'm behind, that was this week. Really? I catch up on the weekends. Can we bring up Mary's bangs? You have to see Meredith's bangs. They are- Wait, they're not real though, right? They're not. They catch up on the weekends. Can we bring up Mary's bangs? You have to see Meredith's bangs. They are-

Wait, they're not real though, right? They're not. They got them all off Amazon. Bronwyn participated as well. Well, Bronwyn killed it. The bangs. Bangs are tricky in general. Not a lot of people can carry off bangs.

Very, very, very few people can do it. I've seen it done. That it's most people cannot do bangs. I agree. I could. I agree. I'm just kidding. I, but you're like, but you couldn't, I couldn't,

Nick couldn't, I had them when I was a child. You have a very pretty face. Well, thank you. I'm just trying to think how bangs would look on you. Ugly. She would make anything look good. Yeah, that's a good answer. How long you guys been together?

Five years. Oh wow, it's working. Yeah, it's a good answer. How long you guys been together? Five years. Oh wow, it's working. It's working. We have an age gap. Oh, how old are you, Kinaas? I'm 26. Okay, how old are you? 24.

Oh, that's not that big of a deal. Thank you. I had a date last night. Shane's not happy about this. He thinks there's too much of an age gap. I had a date last night and he is, I'm 54. He's 26. Hot.

He was a little young. Little young. Little young, and I was like, even going into it, I was like, this is never gonna work. What'd you guys talk about? He's actually a very bright guy, a very bright, mature guy, graduated SC, executive at NBC, Okay. Okay.

Well traveled from New York. And honestly, you know what I thought? My last- You should be calling him daddy. Yeah, what's the problem? My ex was 43. And I was thinking to myself as this guy was talking, I was like, you are smarter, more mature,

and more successful than my ex who is in his 40s. That's what I was thinking to myself. Right, of course. So is there a second date or? I think there might be a second date. Despite Shane. Shane thinks he's too, well, cause he's younger than Shane.

I said your stepdad's gonna be younger than you. Cause Shane's like my son. He's been with me for four and a half years. But we're extremely close. He's my right-hand man. We became close because I hired him and he moved out here. And two weeks later we were shut down because of COVID and he had to move in with me because really at that point,

the sources of income dried up. So I had to continue, made sure we do radio. We were actually lucky because we could still do construction, but not every client wanted me in their house. So I was gonna say that most clients were like, no COVID, we don't want you in my house. But there were a few that were like, no, we wanna get don't want you in my house. But there were

a few that were like, no, we want to get this house done. So I had still had that source of income, but radio was important. So I was so afraid. I didn't know what was going to happen. I'm like, Shane, I don't know how to work any of this equipment. I'm like, you got to move in because we never knew what was going to happen. But fortunately, the house was big and you lived on the other side, but we did, you know, we, we went grocery shopping together. We went to the dry cleaners. We went to the liquor store a lot. Baby, you forgot to ask Jeff about the advice we need for the house.

Oh yeah, so I took you off course. You did, you were interested. If you're not interested, just say that. No, no, I am interested. I have severe ADHD. So we have a wall in our living room. Anyway. All right.

So you have a wall in your living room. We have a wall in our living room. How come I take a look at your house? You will? Yeah. Will you stay for dinner? your living room. We have a wall in our living room. I'll come by and take a look at your house. You will? Yeah. Will you stay for dinner? I mean, let's take it slow. Let's take it slow here.

I feel like I'd like you, but we don't really. You're not sure yet. You know, it's more him than you. Oh. Yeah, no, I feel like you and I have a long grade. I think we would too. No, I'm kidding. I'll come by anytime.

Okay, so we have a wall with a TV on it, right? Big wall. Huge massive wall. It's, I don't know, how tall are the ceilings in there? 20 feet. Something massive. It's a new build? It was.

Yeah, it was new. It was a new remodel, like five, six years ago. Oh, a new remodel, okay. It has this heinous gold wallpaper on it. Disgusting. And by heinous, I mean, I like it. Okay. So it's extra ugly.

And there's just an 80 inch TV and a built in fireplace. 85 inches. Oh, 85 inch TV. Jesus, that's a big TV. Because it's a massive wall. Okay. We have no storage, not one closet, not nothing. Not a linen closet, cold closet.

So you wanna do a whole like built in cabinet wall and all of that. Yes, so I'm like, how can I make this a storage, but still, I don't need more like shelves to put more shit on necessarily. More like a cabinetry and all of that. Okay, so we just, I have design clients now, similar situation, we did a very long lower cabinet,

but we're not gonna go the whole wall to wall because it looks stupid. And then we did this beautiful marble top with an edge detail and it looks stupid. But, and then we did this beautiful marble top with this, with an edge detail. And it looks really nice. So we, because she needed storage also. We also upstairs, we did do a built in whole bookshelf thing, but you don't want bookshelves.

You don't need that. Are you, no, because we have like right next to it is our kitchen and we have three shelves there that are like styled with plates and cookbooks and whatever. So it's like more. Yeah, so you don't need any more of those kind of shelves. I have a great cabinet person. Do you have a cabinet guy?

No. Okay, so I'm happy to come by and I'll refer my cabinet guy and I'll kind of give you ideas. I'm happy to do it. Great, amazing. I'm in the Valley all the time because I have a couple of clients out here. Oh, great.

Yeah. Do you like games? What kind of games? What are you talking about? This is why you wanted me to stay for dinner? We're like, Dureet will be there. Yeah. Justin made a game for us.

It sounds like I'm gonna have to- oh we're playing a game right now. We're playing a game right now. Oh okay. Let's try this again. Do you like games? Do you want me to stay for dinner? No, yeah of course. Yes I do like games. No I fucking hate games, but it's okay I'll play. Yikes. I think we're more similar than. I think y'all are too.

I think y'all are too. Yeah. All right, it's called Iconic or doing too much? Question mark. Iconic or doing too much. Okay, got it. All right. Just two words, okay.

Meredith Marks and her bangs, which you just saw. Oh, is there a third answer like I don't really care? No. No, it has to be one or the other. Okay, I'll say iconic then. Nice. Interesting. It kind of is iconic at this point. Jared Osmond sliding into Mary Cosby's DMs.

Oh, that's right. We did not. See, I didn't know that. I haven't seen that. You guys are ruined it for me. Oh my God. You can't ask any Salt Lake City. I'm sorry.

We're keeping it up. I was gonna catch up this weekend. Well, it's good. Have you seen Beverly Hills? Yes, that I stayed up. Kathy Hilton taking out her extensions at the party. Oh, that's, so what's my choices? Well, let's just rewind a little bit.

Let's just kind of talk about the fact that, what's his name? Jared Osmond, Slyndon and Mary Krasby's DMs. Do you find Jared Osmond kind of hot? No, disgusting. Not at all. I don't know why, but I guess. No, he's an attractive guy.

He's a disgusting human. I found him somewhat hot. I just couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. Yeah. I guess. No, he's an attractive guy. He's a disgusting human. I found him somewhat hot. I just couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. Yeah. I guess I kind of see it. Interesting.

Yeah. You like him toxic? Usually, yeah, I do. And I would think that she's, I think she's dignitized, to be honest with you. I think he's big. I mean, there's got to be something keeping her around, because it's definitely not his charm.

Absolutely. Not the self respect. He is also related to Mormon royalty. Brittany Bateman needing everything to be about her at dinner. She's so behind on that. I'm behind on all that. I'm sorry.

Doreet smoking a cigarette, driving through Bel Air. Iconic or doing too much? That hands down was iconic. That was iconic. That is Dore, breaking character. Yeah. You know, I mean, look, I think she is one of those people that's been very edited for years.

Very concerned about what other people think. I mean, obviously look at the lifestyle they lead that it seems to me. A bit fake. It seems to me that they're living beyond their means based on alleged tax liens and notice of defaults. Or the fact that his only job that we're actually aware of is that he's the manager of Boy George

and that can't be paying all that much money these days. I don't know. I hope for them that Boy George is working and he's taking his 20%. But I lost my train of thought. Oh, I love that she was like, fuck it. Like she broke character. And she showed us the real her.

Do you think she's been smoking cigarettes behind the scenes? Oh yeah, since day one. I wanna see her dating. I wanna see her. And if like they, I mean, if they need someone with a reality TV experience or anything like that. I'm a little bit team.

They'd probably go for someone not married with children, but I don't know, it's just my day. I'm a little bit team PK, and I'll tell you why. What? Because I have insider information that he had a real prob, I know that we're trying to blame it all on his alcoholism. Which she's changed. That was weird.

Every scene, did you know PK's an alcoholic? Yeah, full-blown alcoholic, alcoholic, I really don't know the status of his drinking, but I will say, I did hear that he felt like she has changed since the show and that the show has become a major priority. And, uh, I think over he felt, and I'm not speaking for him, I'm just telling you what I heard is marriage and his family. Now, again, I'm sure she's gone to the park with her kids, but look, I don't always go to the park with my kid. In fact, I go once in a while. Most

often my nanny takes my daughter. But when I've been, and also my nanny's been, never seen to read with those kids. That doesn't mean anything. I mean, she could be a good mother, behind closed doors, but she was just never, never been there as far as I've never seen her there. And either it's my nanny. What if she's like, if I'm gonna take the kids, we have to go to like a park and like,

Well, this is Beverly Hills Park. This is all like, yeah, this is the Beverly Hills Park. This is Coldwater Park. So yeah, everybody goes there. I don't know, I kind of believe it. I just kind of believe it. Because I've seen it. I mean, I've been around for a long time.

I started this and I think the show first aired in 2008. And I've watched people change from these shows. Who stayed the same, do you think? I find myself drawn to people with similar goals that I have, which is we, I honestly, I don't, I really, I truly, and you tell me if I'm wrong, Shane, I truly don't think the fame has affected me.

I'm very focused on creating streams of income and financial security for my family. And that is my, that is my focus. This is how I happen to be doing it, but that is my focus. I really, I'm not, I have, you know, I always say, I have Jomo, I don't give a shit about parties or red carpets, I don't feel like the need, you know, and I'm the first person, like if I walk out of Craig's,

I'm hiding, I don't want, I don't care, I don't care, I don't wanna be photographed, I don't, but there are people that literally will hover outside of Craig's waiting to be photographed, I don't. But there are people that literally will hover outside of Craig's waiting to be photographed. Why? It's weird to me. So to answer your question, I always liked Tabitha Coffee.

I've always respected the people that were there building businesses and versus there just to be famous. Yeah, that makes sense. Even if they're promoting products and things like that. Did you, who's? Who's changed and hasn't? Sure.

My co-star changed, Jenny. She changed a lot. We used to be very good friends. And then I do think the notoriety affected her. And I think a lot of them, and I've talked about this, where you hire an agent, a manager, and a publicist, and you have this whole team, and these people are designed, they just, you know, they just blow smoke up your ass all day. And it really does affect your psyche.

And you start to think you're someone you're not, or you're bigger than you are, better than other people. And I think then you make very bad decisions. And so I've always been, I've been lucky because I've grounded by the people around me, which is my family and my friends and people that I'm dating and that kind of thing. I've been very grounded

and I've stayed very kind of true to my goals. My goals of doing this in the first place. And I, I made money from day one only because I had a production company that was somewhat new to the game and they fucked up and they sold the show before they had a deal with me. And then at that point, Bravo and the production company wanted the show. So they had come to me with like a very, very, very low offer.

And I don't know if I've been on it. Have I said the numbers? Okay, I'll say it now. I want to say that they were saying like, okay, we're going to pay you 3,500 for the pilot and 2,500 per episode. I was like, cool. Okay, yeah, go ahead, pitch it.

Then we had people interested, specifically Bravo, because they wanted to go right to series with six episodes. And they came back to me and they're like, okay, we gotta go, we got a green light here, sign here. I'm like, I can't work for that. And this is in 2007. So in two, I really don't wanna piss off Bravo though right now.

Okay, so I was paid considerably more than that. You can guess if you want. More or less than Kyle Richards. I don't know what she makes, but you have to understand I was a no name. It was in 2007. The show was unproven. Per episode? Per episode.

It was a lot more than what they'd offered me. 10,000 per episode. It was higher than that. Oh my God. It was a lot more than they offered. What, 25,000? Wow. Lower.

Lower. What did you, they did a flashback this episode about the, whose side were you on with the home invasion? Real or staged? Like Garcelle. Are you trying to get me sued? Is that what you guys are doing? You can't use that.

Taking me down. Garcelle's the one who said she thought it was staged. She was like, what home, what robber leaves your phone by the gate? That's what Garcelle's words. I think that there's, it's suspicious. Let's put it that way. I think it's suspicious.

You know, and then when you have public financial problems but then also we're living in a very dangerous, it's a very dangerous time. I know Encino has been hit hard with a lot of invasion robberies. There's like robberies, I mean, multiple a day it feels like. So it is very possible that it was, you know, that there is nothing suspicious around it.

And, you know, it did this, could someone have gone in, robbed them, had a conscience, and, you know, because I know she was pleading and she was crying, and it is very possible they had a conscience. So it's, yes, I think it depends on how you look at it. She also, I mean, I think it's like one thing to be on the show wearing Chanel and flaunting all of your designer pieces.

And then when people, it's like not that unbelievable that someone would be like, oh, they probably have designer things we should break into their house. Yeah, for anyone listening, this is a- Oh, it's a- Vegan leather? That's fake leather?

This is vegan leather, it's from Gap. Yeah, but they could take that ring. They don't know where I hide it. Fake. Is it insured? It's fake. It is. It's fake, it's fake. It's fake, everything's fake leather. This is vegan leather, it's from Gap. Yeah, but they could take that ring. They don't know where I hide it. Fake. Is it insured? It's fake. It is. It's fake, it's fake.

It's fake, everything's fake. I hear you, don't keep anything in the- It's vegan. Don't keep anything in the primary bedroom. We don't. No. Yeah. We don't, our house is bare.

We don't even have a primary bedroom. And do you have cameras? It doesn't matter anymore. Cameras are everywhere. They're unplugging them, it doesn't matter. And they're jamming them. So it doesn't really matter. What were we talking about before? What were we talking about before?

What were we talking about before? Oh, Jareet. I do want to tell you, I did Family Feud. I played against Jareet. I didn't really understand the rules. I know that sounds stupid. What did you think of Steve Harvey? I don't care about anything else.

I loved him. Right? I loved him. I thought he was so fucking funny. Do you think he's hot? Not that way. But I really liked him and I thought he was animated and funny and quick. I actually really liked him. Yeah, me too. But I really liked him and I thought he was animated and funny and quick.

I actually really liked him. But I will say, and this is probably the one nice thing I'll say about Doreen, she's smart and she's witty. And that very rarely do you meet someone where you instantly know this is an intelligent human being. And I got it, I got it right away. She is smart, she is smart. Okay. Is that the only nice thing I've said today?

I think so. I need to say at least one more about somebody. Brynn. No, try again. Heather. She's pretty, she's pretty. Brynn is pretty, I will give her that. She's an attractive.

She's very pretty. Brittany. Oh, she's a mess, but I kind of like watching it. I miss her when she's not on. Me too. I really miss her. They kind of need to keep her and I'm gonna be pissed if they clip her

cause she's a mess, right? She's fun. I hope she doesn't go in. She really needs some therapy. Yeah, she needs a lot of help. But do we want her to get therapy? No. No, no, no, no, we don't.

They're like, if you get therapy, you're out. Yeah, if you become normal. It's kind of a dream cast that SLC. Truly. All right, but can we, cause I can't let this go. No. You guys are, you know, you're doing well in life.

You have money. You invite someone on a trip. You're like, I'm chartering a plane. I'm just assuming that if you both invite me to Palm Springs, which we could take Arrow because they do have these flights now in Palm Springs. But anyway, and you charter a flight, I'm assuming I have a ride home.

And I would assume it would be the same way we got there. I'm assuming that too. And if not, it's cool. Like, hey, we chartered a flight there, we're gonna stay a couple extra days, just say that. And you're gonna have to find your own way home. Okay, no problem, I'll book a flight or whatever. I was a little shocked by that,

letting them know in the morning that they're going to be flying coach. And I mean, again, there's nothing wrong with coach. That's not the point. The point is you should have let me know that this is what was happening. So if I don't want to fly coach, and by the way, it's not a 45 minute flight. It's like two hours. It's two hours. So that's an exaggeration. And also, if you have so much money and you just gifted a four million dollar necklace, which I don't believe that happened, what do you give a shit about another 20 grand to fly them home? Why do you care? You think that was a prop? The necklace? I think it

was either borrowed or I thought it could be lab- diamonds or maybe it's a, I just don't think, look, it's obviously Todd, Todd is a wealthy man. You gotta be pretty wealthy to be okay with dropping $4 million on a necklace. And even if he got it for 2 million, I'm gonna be- I mean, he invented Palm Pilot. That's like, he's probably a billionaire.

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. It could be though. And that's the house, the Charles? And all the, and he might have spent it all on the Starbucks cups, because those are like, what, $42 a pop or something? Did you do the chair installation?

I'm not disputing he's not wealthy. I just, I'm not buying the, I'm not, I don't think that necklace, I don't know. I don't think that happened. I think you're absolutely right about the plan to get home. It's just more like, I just don't think that necklace, I don't know. I don't think that happened. I think you're absolutely right about the plan to get home. It's just more like, I just don't mind Brawn starting a little drama. And then like, Todd and I took the two,

there's four seats in first class. Todd and I took two. And the rest of you guys are in coach. Well, you'll see in this episode, Heather asked her why. Oh, I missed it. No one cares, you know, if like it's not that big of a deal, why did she put herself in first class? And Brahman responds with,

because it was my fucking credit card. Which I kind of loved. Which like. It's still, I still find it, I still find it tacky how it went down. I definitely think she could have let them know like, I'll get your tickets home, but like just to let you know, it is a small plane.

There's only so many first class. So I'll put you all in coach with your husbands. Okay. But also maybe tell me before you invite me that we're just, because look, you have to schedule this charter, right? So just tell me beforehand, like we're, you know, we got you on the way there. And you know, I can either pick up a ticket for you

or you guys. Yes, the option. Just, I'm all about just, you know, communicate. I'll up a ticket for you or you guys. Yes, give you the option. I'm all about just, you know, communicate. I'll figure it out. Thank you so, and by the way, thank you so much for flying us there. I really appreciate that. Thanks for picking up, which we know they did,

we know Brahma did, but thanks for picking up the house. The house was gorgeous, whatever. I'll come from a place of gratitude, but don't surprise me the morning of on the way to the airport. Yeah. I think that was mishandled. It was messy. It was understandable. It was messy. It was messy for sure. And not a classy thing to do. I still really like her. I do too. I just met her at a gay bar in Dallas called the Roundup. Oh, fun. And I was with Crystal Minkoff, who's a

real good time. Real good time, oh my God. Oh, we have, yeah. We produce a show there now. Oh, I'm fucking stupid, that's right. We already talked about that. I was in Dallas, she was there on a speaking engagement. I'm like, hey, meet up with us at the Roundup, which is this big famous gay bar.

You'd love it, Nick. And they have karaoke, they have all these different rooms, drinks are cheap. Do you love Jell-O shots? Love. Oh my God, I feel like I'm in college again. It was so fun. But Crystal met us and I think she came right from the airport and she took a lot of my cash and gave it to the strippers.

And she would like, okay, so we've all, you know, we've all done, we've all, you know, helped out strippers. Sure, we've helped them out. I'm very careful. Like I will roll up the money, I kind of like put it on. Crystal. Neatly put it in.

Crystal had her hand all the way down and just like lingered there. Oh. Just lingered. It stuck to my hand, I can't get it off. I mean, pretty much. And this guy was like Jared, he was well endowed. And so she kept going back to the same dancer.

Another crime. Supposed to say dancer not stripper, but they're stripper. Well, I guess he's not stripper. Entertainers? Performers. Yeah. Performers. And I don't know how many of 20s she went through, but they were all my money, by the way. She went through my 20s. How was your bank account looking today? I need to check it. But I had cash. I don't go to, I try to, it's like when you go to Vegas, like I go with a certain amount of cash and I do not take my 18-card. All I'm spending, yeah. No, no, no, because I'll just keep going.

I'll keep going back. So she owes me a lot of money because she spent many 20s on that server, but she's a real good time. Oh, anyway, forgot to tell you. So then someone comes over and they're like, hey, Bronwyn from Salt Lake City's here. This is what I love about Crystal, because I'm like, oh, oh my God, I'm a big fan So then someone comes over and they're like, hey, Bronwyn from Salt Lake City's here. And this is what I love about Crystal.

Cause I'm like, oh, oh my God, I'm a big fan. Let's go over there. And she's like, no, no, no, no. And she takes my hand and she kind of pushes me back. She's like, let her come to us. And she did. And I'm like, damn, she doesn't play that Crystal. The roundup's real fun.

It's a real good time. Okay, well. I'd have you in the, you know what, you're obviously, you probably feel uncomfortable around the dancers, but there's a whole karaoke room, which is probably where we would leave. I went to a gay bar with my friend, Brad Goreski. You might know him. You know Brad?

I know Brad, yeah. And I was mesmerized by one of those dancers because he was a terrible dancer. And I was just like, why are you up there? You're a terrible dancer. And then like two weeks later, he was my barista. And I was just like, I know you, but you don't know that I saw you at this dance

or you're a terrible dancer. Oh, you knew his secrets. They make a lot of money. I bet they do. When I'm there, they make a lot, and Crystal. And if Crystal's there with you and your money. Well, I get drunk and then I'm like the nicest, happiest, most fun drunk you'll ever meet.

And I'm also very generous. So out comes the cash. Did y'all wanna bring in some tequila over here? Yeah, that sounds good. But yes, you know how there's these, we've seen a few on Housewives, where there's like mean drunks, where people get mean. That's not you?

I'm so glad I'm a really nice, happy drunk. How are you? I'm good too. I don't get drunk. I've never seen Nick get drunk. Oh, that's good. Good for you. You don't want to go out with Crystal.

Honestly? I've been out with Crystal. She is fun. She's a very good time. She's a good wing woman. She was great. Would you ever perform at a strip club? Would you ever be a stripper?

Maybe before being famous. If you weren't famous, would you ever? Just for a night, just to see what was on well. There was probably a window where I could have been. I used to be hot. I know that's hard for you to figure out, but I used to be hot. It's not hard.

I probably could have done it. And if I needed the money, I think if I really needed money, yeah, I'm not opposed to most things. Only fans. Well, only fans is, yeah, that's right now, but. That window I think is closed for me, but it's okay. But I am on wiki feet.

I could make, I could make some money. What's your score? What's my score now? Well, there's a couple of haters that brought it down. Are you serious? Yeah, I was at five for a while. I'm a 4.9. That's great.

Can I see your feet? How big are they? You're big. Yeah, you have nice feet. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a five. Jeff Lewis has a 4.535 out of five. Oh, the haters have been coming for you.

I am so mad because I checked a week ago and it was 4,750. Stop! It's fucking juicy scoopers. They're the ones. Damn it. That is greasy. I am so embarrassed.

I was a five. It's plummeted. Well, I was at a four or five for a while and then I jumped back up to a four, seven, 50 and then somebody brought me back down, assholes. Yeah, Nick's beating you. He's a 4.95. Wow.

Well, actually, according to Jess, I'm a five, so. I'm not in a good mood. Did I say five? You did. You said I had five feet. You said five. They are five. They are five.

Five out of five. How big are they? Huge. No, like 11, 12? 11. Yeah, it's a good size. What about you? 11 and a half. I have wide feet though.

I think if you have really fucked up feet, you can make a lot of money. Oh, they like the weird ones. Yeah. Who has fucked up feet, Shane that we told to get on OnlyFans? We told, yeah, Cynthia Bailey with her bunions. Oh, they love a bunion.

They love a bunion. I told her, I'm like, you are, you are, why are you doing vile files or anything associated with Nick's podcast network? You can make a ton of money on Feet Finder. Don't tell her. Because they, those sickos, they love like deformities. Deformities. On that note. Like love like deformities. Deformities. Well on that note.

Like Cynthia Sponians. Look at her feet next time. Okay, I will ask her to take her shoes off. Jeff, it's been so much fun to have you come back. Would you ever? Come back? Yeah. I think if I was in the neighborhood and I didn't have anything else to do.

If I was drunk, if I had a gun in my head. Yeah, if it was like a holiday. Let my audience know all the great things you're doing. Promote, plug. What am I doing? I don't know. I have a radio show two hours a day, five days a week. It's called Jeff Lewis Live.

It's on the Sirius XM. You can also download the app if you don't have to listen to it live. Who was the last person who showed up late to the show? Todrick Hall yesterday was late. I kind of love him, I'm a fan, so it's okay. It's fine. Yeah, what else?

Jeff Lewis has issues where podcasts are available. You think you do? We drop two a week. Okay. Thanks, Nick. You're welcome. Thank you. Thanks for listening, guys.

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