The Viall Files - E850 - Holiday Recipes w Katie Lee, The Ultimatum, Crystal Minkoff Christmas Dinner, Spotify Wrapped & RHOBH

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

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["You're Crazy"] What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Vox Files. That was weird. That was weird. Reality recap edition. I don't know. I just wanna play around with new intros.

Do people like the what's going on? One day five years ago I did it and then I just kept doing it and I'm not honestly convinced it's good. I think it's great. I think it's your calling card. Yeah, it's gonna be a brand new. Does it mean it's good, but I think if you were like hello everyone it would be When we just turn it on and we're like balls deep into a conversation that was a little aggressive

How was the party last night everyone if you don't remember wait actually no, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm not too much going on in my head, too much going on. Natalie went to Kristal Minkoff's Christmas dinner party ladies only-ish. Found out that some husband showed up at the end. That was a little disappointing to find out. Sorry, I had plans.

I had a man date last night. It was cool. But I think we need to address the elephant in the room. We need to address Vicky, how do you say her last name again? Gunvul. Gunvulsen. I'm not even trying to be a dick how do you say her last name again? Gunvulson. Gunvulson, I'm not even trying to be a dick, Gunvul, because I thought it was Gundulson.

Gun-bul. Also, Nick can't pronounce anything. And it can't pronounce anything. So it's also like, no disrespect to our queen. Yeah, of course. We made some waves, Vicki made some waves, it seems as though. Let's also just put it out there,

we like to have fun, we like to be messy, but we do like to respect the talent who does show up on our show. We did Greenlight keeping in that hot mic moment with Vicky. So we asked her permission. We were like, hey, by the way, this happened. We think it's funny. Are you cool with us leaving it in?

Vicky, the queen that she is, was more than happy to allow it in and play ball because say what you want about Vicky. She is real. She is authentic. She is real. A little messy, you know, but like real. She is who she is on TV.

She is who she is. We were so thankful to have her. She's a star. It was great. We had so much fun with her. We appreciate her playing along. I was a little like, yeah, I was, it was a wild story. Like she's a star.

She's just like, she needs to be back on a, if nothing else, what we learned is, put her back on TV. But anyways, the point is, we love Vicky, and we can't wait to have her back on, hopefully in person next time. She's a queen. And we are very grateful for Vicky for playing along and letting us keep that moment.

And she is nothing if not a star. I hope she is enjoying her vacation. Speaking of the Vicky episode, everyone at Crystal's party was like, oh my God, that Vicky episode was wild. Natalie, if you don't tell me every detail about this Crystal's dinner right now, I'm gonna lose it.

First of all, I was weird. Well, I don't know where you guys were, but last night I was on my mandate. We were, me and my friend Peter, we went to watch Adam Ray's Dr. Phil show and we were getting play by play from Natalie. So does. And I was like in a comedy show checking my phone

to be like, what's going on at the party? I need to open it up with, Crystal Minkoff is Oprah. She gave away diamonds. Oh my God. So we all walked away with Takori diamonds, which I will be at the next dinner. I think I'm hopefully the next one is like,

you get an Aspen house, you get a Tulum house, and like, you know, hopefully we get a beach house or something. But Crystal Minkoff is the new Oprah and I'm loving that for her. First of all, I need to say that she should have had valet. She didn't have valet. She did not have valet. She had diamonds but no valet.

She had diamonds but no valet. And there was a strict- Did you tell her that? Or is it, is she gonna find your critique out from this show? No, no, no, me, who else? Me and MJ and maybe Sheena were all saying how we're gonna talk about how she did not have valet on the podcast because we all three struggled

with the parking situation. And I think all of the other women were Ubering, which definitely smart. Definitely smart. She lives up in the canyon, you know? Not a lot of service, not a lot of parking. You know, there's not parking meters, there's not, we're in neighborhoods,

it's two-way streets, you know what I'm saying. So I pull into the driveway, I ring the bell. Or if not a valet, a clear instruction of where to park. You should probably These side streets. Right. Parking is a struggle. Right, right, right, right.

Right. So I pull into the driveway, I ring the bell. Her housekeeper, Lucy, comes out. She's like, can't pull into the driveway, I ring the bell. Her housekeeper Lucy comes out. She's like, can't pull into the driveway. You gotta find parking. And I'm like, well, it's dark out here. There's a lot of traffic. Do you know where I could go?

She's like to the left. I'm like, okay. So I back out of the driveway. I'm like stopping traffic and I go to the left. And the amount of no parking signs that were to the left was jarring. It was very clear I was not allowed to park anywhere to the left. So then as I'm going down everyone this, the longest line of traffic and I'm like, I don't,

okay. I then called Nick. Nick's like, why are you calling me? Call Crystal, which then triggers a little bit of a breakdown. And I do start to cry just a little bit. I made you cry? You did. Just a little bit. Just because I had really bad anxiety and I was like, I don't know where to park. I don't know where I am. I can't see. I have no service. Like I'm in

these new high heels that I just bought. I spent too much money on. I probably should return them, but I can't hitchhike. So I'm like, where? Okay. It is the scariest thing in the world to like be alone trying to park somewhere in LA. It's like, I always make a friend come with me. I like will not do it, cause I will cry. I do want to be clear though, when Nellie called me out by my man to eat at dinner, she was like, I'm at Crystal's gate, how do I get in?

I'm like, I've never been to Crystal's house. I don't know, we should probably call Crystal. Like, I don't know. So I did hang up on Nick immediately because that was clearly no help. So I did text Crystal when I was at her gate before all of this had started. I was like, hey girl, I had text Crystal when I was at her gate before all of this had started. I was like, Hey girl, I had to drive.

I'm at your gate. No response. Obviously she's hosting a party, not on her phone. Anyways, so then I find parking. I hitchhiked my way in and I'm like, who am I going to see walking in here? Like, I don't know anyone. I only know Crystal. Like, so I walk in and I'm like

Okay, okay. Oh, there's Crystal. I'm gonna walk to her Tamra judge Heather Dubrow are talking to Crystal and her husband Rob Obviously no Rob give him a hug reach over you have Crystal hug She introduces me to Tamra Heather's like, oh so great to see you. I'm like you too. We all three start check She's like Heather's like let's get champagne. I'm like, you too. We all three start chatting. She's like, Heather's like, let's get champagne. I'm like, let's go get champagne. So we go- Are you a little bit afraid of Tamarith as well, man? I'm a little just on edge because I'm like, I don't know.

You know, we've run into some people who we have talked about their characters on TV shows. And so I'm always a little of like, I wonder if they've heard, I wonder what they think. Do they, are they like, you know, fuck this bitch? So I'm always a little on edge. And sometimes it's just like, oh, I don't give a fuck. I understand the assignment, I'm a professional TV maker.

And other times you're like, you know. You were mean to me and it's like, well. Yeah, and then they start saying the craziest fucking shit in retaliation. It's like, holy shit, man. Just someone else on my show made a joke. Yep. I'm okay.

45 minute episode. Right, right. That's just what I came up with. It wasn't even me! I didn't even say it! So, me and then the photographer's like, let's get some photos of the three of you. So then me and Tamara and Heather are taking photos by the Christmas tree.

And then we run into Kristen from Rony. She was there, and I was like, she looks so familiar. She looks a lot like Molly Sims, which Molly Sims is gorgeous. So I was like, is that Molly? No, I don't think so. And I said, like, you look so familiar. And she did the whole like scared, you know,

like didn't want to say what she was like, oh yeah, I don't know. And I was like, okay, awkward. And so then I looked to Heather and I'm like, Heather, who is this blonde? And she was like, she hugged me, but not long enough. So it's like, we know each other, but not well. And I'm like, Heather, who is this blonde? And she was like, she hugged me, but not long enough. So it's like, we know each other, but not well. And I was like, okay.

So Heather. Yeah, I was like, okay, that helps. Thank you. Perfect, perfect. No name. Measuring if I remember, what is my relationship to this person based off the pressure of their hug?

I wonder what like the seconds are for her. Like, is it like a six to eight? She doesn't remember you, but you know, I wonder what her their hug is. I wonder what the seconds are for her. Like, is it like a six to eight? She doesn't remember you, but you know, I wonder what her time frame is. I know, I was wondering that as well. So we're all, me, Kristen, Tamara, we're chatting and they're like, oh my God, the Vicky episode. And I was like, it's crazy.

And Tamara's like, that bitch. And I'm like, yeah, well, yep. And I'm like, you know, and then, oh, MJ walks in. And- From, uh, from Traders. Shaw's of Sunset. But also Shaw's of Sunset, yes. And so I'm like, oh my God, I watched you on Traders.

And she's like, oh my God, I love your show. I like was just listening to the Vicky episode. I loved how Justin, the guy who sits beside you said that the girls, the women of OC don't know how to hang up a phone. I was like listening to the Vicky episode. I loved how Justin, the guy who sits beside you, said that the girls, the women of OC, don't know how to hang up a phone. I was like, yeah. She was quoting episodes and like, no, I love you. We are now probably best friends.

She is great. She brought a money tree. I did not bring a gift at all. I know, but I did make it clear to Crystal that it was left on our dining room table when nothing was on our dining room table. We're all learning. I went to dinner with Peter and I was like,

he's like, what's Natalie doing? I'm like, this is kind of a big moment for Natalie. Also, when we went home for Thanksgiving, Savannah, nothing makes me more excited and proud when we watch the streets. Every time we go to Savannah, there's one or two moments we'll be walking in Savannah and Natalie will run into someone she knows from her past,

like you're in school, bartending, whatever. And it always looks like someone who's like a local. And there's always like a, you made it girl. Like Natalie is like, Natalie's there like sweet home Alabama. And I fucking love it. It makes me really proud of my wife. Of like, cause they, like some of these people,

and don't get me wrong, Natalie's got her critics from back home. But the point is, they love her, they hate her, they care about her, they're paying attention to her, and I think it's, these people look at her like, we all wanted to do what you did, and you did it, and it makes me quite proud. But anyways, I'm thinking, my wife, who I met

when she was bartending in Savannah, is now at a party with Paula Abdul, by the way she was there, and a bunch of housewives. My babe made it. So anyways, we don't know that we're supposed to bring expensive gifts. We didn't know. I didn't know.

I thought about it as soon as I pulled out of my neighborhood and I was like, should I go and pick up a bottle of wine? And then I was like, oh my God, I can't just pick up a bottle. I would have to be the nicest bottle of wine. You're like, let me go to Trader Joe's. Let me get her some Josh. The most basic bitch fucking wine

because it's like a $30 price point that is like, I think that's kind of like nice. But like, do you drink barefoot? I was like, I don't need to. Josh? I get her boxed wine. I'm like, this is fun. Bona box, it's nice, it's bouchey.

So I was like, then that's too much pressure. I can't do all of that. And then I'm like, I'll just tell her like new baby forgot it on, you know, it's fine. It's a white lie, doesn't matter the color of it, it's still a lie. Anyways, so then me and MJ, MJ walks in and she's like, oh my God, the Vicky episode.

That's where I was. So everyone's talking about the Vicky episode. It's so funny. Then Sheena comes in, we're all, me and MJ are like, are Gippin and Gabin, you know, we're trying to figure out like, what's in the drawers of Krystal Minkoff's house. And so then they're like, okay, dinner is now served.

If everyone could please make their way outside the backyard, which is lit with like tall candles, flowers everywhere, diamonds everywhere. I'm like, no, perfect. And I take a seat at my table with my embroidered napkin and I look to my right, Paula Abdul, I look to my left, Tamara Judge. I look to my left, Tamara Judge. I'm like, no, well of course.

Wow. Well of course. I can't take my seat. I'll take my seat right here. The vibe-ology of that. Truly, also what is draped over my chair is this mink robe. Oh.

Because it's a little chilly out. Yeah. You know? She was thinking of everyone. This is first class. Yeah, I don't know if it was mink chilly out. Yeah, you know, she was thinking about she was thinking of everyone Yeah, I don't know if it was me. I didn't test the fur, but it felt like you're going because of mink off exactly Thank you very much so the thoughtfulness the thoughtfulness thing Yeah, truly. So then I turn and I'm like Paula. How are you like we've known each other

I have a picture of me and Paula. Really? I don't have a photo because I was best friends. Cool. You know? No, no, you acted. I wasn't a fan. No, no, absolutely. You said cool. So I'm like Paula.

Work baby. How are you? So good to see you. She's like, oh, so great to see you. I'm good, I'm very injured. Like injured? What do you mean? She's like, I've got a torn rotator cuff.

I've got a stretched hamstring. I've got a hip and I'm like, you What do you mean? She's like, I've got a torn rotator cuff. I've got a stretched hamstring. I've got a hip. And I'm like, you're wearing 10 inch heels and fishnets. How are you this injured in this like? She's a professional. I know, it was a stupid question. And she was like, she was like, I'm just, I don't.

And we started getting into like our favorite bra vote. She loves the Salt Lake City. Hell yeah. She's gotta come on and talk about it. I know. Sitting beside her is Miss Jennifer Tilly. Legend. Which now they blew my mind.

I did. Well, a little birdie blew my mind at that dinner when they told me that she is like probably close to a billionaire. And I was like, oh my God, how? And they were like, you don't know how she got her money. And I'm like, I don't know how she got her money from Chucky. She's like, no.

No. My liar. Found Stuart Little. And she's like, she was married to the creator of the Simpsons, got a divorce. He died. He divorce, he died. He had no heirs, so everything went to his most recent ex-wife. Holy.

So she's just getting the Simpson residuals. She cannot spend enough of money. Truly. There's dump trucks of cash, I mean, metaphorically, backing up into her bank account on a daily basis. She could try to burn through her money. She could never do it. Did she attach money to the money tree that she brought?

You know, I was trying to get the invite into her next party because I am curious as to what her gift will be. Fair, fair. Oh my God. We need to get Gentil on. And she is a hoot. She is just, she gives her opinion on everyone.

She doesn't care who's listening. Should we make a podcast with Jennifer Tilly? Absolutely, absolutely. And then I turned to my right or my left and Tamara is like, and Shannon this and Vicky this. And I was like, whoa, okay. And I had to put on my, like, I'm a friend, not a podcast host.

So I was like, I'm not like looking for tea. I'm just here to be a listening ear while you vent about everyone. And you know, Tamara, Tamara's- But they all knew who you were, like- Yes. You weren't cloak and daggering it. No, no, no, no, no.

Tamara was like, Nick's podcast is huge. Like this, like the fact that Vicky didn't know who he was, like come the fuck on. It was like- I absolutely believe Vicky didn't know who I was, like come the fuck on. It was like. I absolutely believe Vicky. I think Vicky's in her own universe. Yeah. Yeah. But then Tamera was like,

I think I was supposed to come on with Teddy a while back, but I got super sick and couldn't come on. And I was like, yeah, well, we need to have you back on. She was like, honestly, I'm kind of boring right now because I'm under Bravo's like contract. So. You appreciate the honesty. I do appreciate the honesty.

And then I was like, listen, I'll be honest. Like we might've been a little hard on you this season. I don't know if you've heard. She was like, listen, I, we do the same thing on my show. I tell everyone they're only as good as this week's episode. And I was like, I love you. Yeah. That is how you handle this type of stuff.

And I said, you know what? We preface every episode. We don't know these people. We reserve the right to be wrong. We understand there's an edit. And I said, but now I have a real life experience with you, so that will play in part of when I watch you on TV, because it's like, oh, this is her on TV.

And I have- But if she acts a fool, we're gonna still call it out. No, 100%. But it sounds like she's okay with that. Yes, she is okay with that. She's cash, those checks are cashing. A thousand percent. Yeah. The checks are cashing.

She's a professional. They Those checks are cashing. A thousand percent. Yeah. The checks are cashing. She's a professional. They served the most amazing meal. I mean, this chef that Crystal had, he was amazing. Made up for the lack of LA. They made up for the, yes, they did. The first thing they served was like a shaved Brussels sprout salad. Thank you.

Shaved, not chopped. Shaved, nope, it was shaved. It was shaven. And then some eggplants, some squash, we'll do all that. Then. Thank you. Shaved, not chopped. Shaved, nope, it was shaved. It was shaven. And then some eggplants, some squash, we're not gonna do all that. Then some vodka pasta. Ooh. Some salmon.

Was it better than mine? It was very good, it was not better than yours, nothing is better than yours. Okay, thank you. Some salmon, some chickens, the chicken had pomegranate seeds on it. Pomegranate? Pomegranate seeds.

Now she's making it even fancier. It's literally, and then before the dessert came, Crystal stood up. She gave a little speech thanking everyone for coming, how she is the new Oprah. She's giving diamonds to everyone. We all squealed. And then she said dessert is now served. And it was a poached pear with Turkish delight.

No, I'll tell you exactly what it was, because honestly- What's that from? Turkish delight. No, I'll tell you exactly what it was, because honestly. What's that from? Turkish delight. Harry Potter? Narnia. The witch in the wardrobe. Lion, the witch in the wardrobe.

Oh, it's a dish. No, I know, but it's like. Oh yeah, they do be eating Turkish delight in Narnia. Yeah. It's a poached pear with, what do you think this is? Angel hair. Like the actual hair. Is it furry?

Can I see that? Yeah. What do you think that is? Girl, no clue. Because I was a little scared. Scared. Me and Tamar both were. We were like, is this a bird?

It looks like something that grows on something that's expired. It looks like asbestos. Yeah expired. It looks like asbestos. Yeah, it does look like asbestos. Like something that you would stuff on a... It looks like you could get Mesothiomyoma and might be entitled for financial compensation for your meal. Yeah, I'm not rich enough to know what this is.

Exactly. Just eat it. I looked back at the menu and it is called Turkish Fairy Floss. Of course. Which is an ingredient in the substance. How many fairies had to die for you guys to- That's a great question. And then I was like, floss?

I don't love that name for a food. Is it hard? And then the server was like, it's a lot like cotton candy. I said yes. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting. So me and Tamara do a little taste test. We record it, of course, and it is incredibly feathery, but melts in your mouth and has like a graham cracker taste. Wasn't mad about it was definitely a little it stuck to my lip gloss. Yeah, I'm saying Yeah, would you rather have eaten that or graham cracker? Oh, what would you rather be honest? I think I would I think I would have liked like a warm graham cracker. Be honest. I think I would have liked a warm graham cracker.

I don't need the crunch of it, but a warm, maybe a little soft graham cracker could be fun. But the presentation and the experience exquisite. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, of course. And then sitting along the table was a massive nine-carat diamond ring that me and Tamara might've put in our shoe

once or twice to walk out with, but we did return it. And I think that should be a Christmas gift. Oh my god, ideas for sure. Yeah. So just going to throw that out there. It was nine carats. It was absolutely massive. And it was stunning. And Crystal's daughter also was like, dad, I want this. And I was like, you got good taste. Why was a nine carat diamond ring on the table? Oh, because there was just diamonds everywhere.

There was tennis necklaces, there was earrings, there was- Were these up for purchase? And you know, I asked, um, and it was like a, we're getting diamonds as a gift. This is to show like what else to core. It was the brand to Corey has to offer. Which, you know, I was like, I mean, we're getting diamonds as a gift. This is to show like what else to core is the brand to Corey has to offer. Oh, which, you know, I was like, I mean, we're we've been name dropping them like crazy. I only said this is the one time I said it.

But I think that's worth a diamond. I think that's nine carats. Right. Right. I would love to Corey. I like the nine carat. Yeah, to Corey, do your job. So we are. Vicky has told you how big our show is, let's just be clear.

So like, I'm expecting that nine carat diamond to be delivered promptly to our address. To Natalie from Nick. Yes, yes. Of course, from Santa. From your husband. From my husband. Yes, Takori, if you're listening, please,

I am a size four and a half? Couldn't tell you. Anyways, perfect. So then dinner wraps, me and MJ go to the bathroom, do a little photo shoot session. Brock shows up to pick up Sheena because she had to park 10 miles away and everyone's kind of leaving. Then me, Crystal, Rob, and Zoe Deschanel are all chatting at the end. They're talking about their chefs. I'm talking about the chick-fil-a I had for lunch yesterday.

You know, we're just on different spectrums of life. But Zoe's also a huge fan. She is boycotting Beverly Hills because of Crystal, which honestly, I respect. Yeah, good friend. And then I left with several bags of things that I don't really know what's in there. A bottle of wine and some skincare

and like a Monopoly board or something, I don't know. And that was it. And then Crystal sent me a photo today of me and Tamara at the dinner table chit chatting. What? A lovely night. Really. So much fun. 29 minutes of that.

Hope you enjoyed it. Do you think someday you will be hosting parties like this? Well, Crystal did say like, Rob, I am so sorry for the cost of this one. Next one will be cheaper. So. But he got that Disney money. Yeah.

I don't think they're worried. I don't think they're worried either. Lion King was super successful. Yeah. Yeah. He could make Stuart Little three. I'm sure there's a tax write-off somewhere in that event. Yeah.

There's gotta be. Also, like, the Lion King that everyone likes. You know, no tea, no shade to the live action reboots. Also, I think shade is welcomed. Oh, I can be honest. I hate them. Oh my god. The live actions? Yeah. Yeah.

No. It's a classic. Rob Minkoff, you're a goat for the live game. Also, I have to say, I felt like, I was like, you know, this is a big dinner. I like, should, I need, I don't have a closed toed pointed black heel. Oh, I don't have one. Don't own one.

So I was like, I should- To dress to impress. I should go and find one that I like. Well, I, you know- Is that the bag you posted? Oh, I should. She dressed to impress. I should go and find one that I like. Well, I, you know. Is that the bag you posted? Oh my girl. This bag I posted and I was like, I've had these shoes.

I posted a bag of, you know, Nick. Where it came from. Nick doesn't watch my Instagram stories. Isn't that crazy? He doesn't watch them. Do you watch anyone's stories? I try to stay off long guys. I'm protecting my mental health.

He is, yeah. But sometimes I'm like, did you see what Rivi was doing today? And he's like, no. And I'm like, that would be so, you know, you could have been, she was on the slide. She was wearing her cute little striped outfit with her two little pigtails. I would love to come home and have my wife tell me

about how her and my daughter's day was. And not me being like, go look at my story. Maybe it's a good thing he's not looking at your story. Like in the club and you can see how your daughter's doing. True, true. And so I was like, I've had these shoes screen shot out on my phone for some time now since then. He's not looking at your stories first. Like in the book of hope. And you can see how your daughter's doing. True, true. And so I was like, I've had these shoes screenshot out on my phone for some time now since they released.

And I was like, I'm just gonna try them on, you know, whatever. So I go into Saint Laurent on Rodeo Drive and I, you know, store's a little empty, not a lot of people in there. All the workers are on their phones. And I'm like, okay, this is a good environment for me to step into. And I'm like, I would like to try those on

in a size 38, please. He's like, we don't have that. And I'm like, okay, what do you have? He's like, we have a 40, which is the size 10, which is not my size, I'm an eight. And so I was like, I'll try it on, you know? I'll just see, stuff it with some tissues. So I try on the 10 and I'm like, it's beautiful.

It is absolutely massive on me though, but it is beautiful. And he, I'm like looking at the other shoes and like, let me try those on. I then come to find out I'm an eight and a half in these shoes. So I have on an eight and a half in one and the 10 of the shoe that I really like on the other. And I'm standing in the mirror and I'm like looking

and I'm trying to decide, you know, like do I really like these, whatever, whatever. A couple walks in, which I realized this is the biggest pet peeve of mine. And I hate it so much and it might be a hot take, but, and I'm looking in the mirror for quite some time and she goes, I like the black. Okay, buy them.

Why are you telling me what you like? I don't need a stranger giving me their opinion. People did that to me when I was trying on wedding dresses and I'm like, ma'am, you are not sitting on this couch with the bridesmaids and the mother of the bride. I don't need you to tell me which one you like. Big mistake. Is that why you called me? Yes, it was.

Because she got in your head? She got in my head. She FaceTimes me and she's like, which ones? I'm like, the fuck if I know. Which ones do you like? I didn't even know at this point. We were talking about shoes that did and did not fit her. Yeah. And listen, my wife makes her own money.

She doesn't need my permission, but we are a married couple with big dreams and aspirations and we like to like talk about big expenditures. But like she is going to this party and like my baby deserves to treat herself to go and dress for impress. She said, thanks, Apollo, I'm dual. Sweet, yep. And so I'm like, thanks, yeah, the bucks, classic.

Okay, anyway, so then the sales associate comes out and he's like, I found a nine. I can run and get it right now. And I'm like, well, this eight and a half fits perfectly. Let's try the nine, the nine and like the actual shoe that I wanted, right? He's like, I'm gonna run, I'll be right back. And I'm like, okay.

So he runs, he comes back, he's definitely breathing heavy and there's a little bit of sweat. So I'm like, he was working. And you know, like pointed toe heels, you always got toe cleavage. You know what I'm talking about? Yuck, not a fan, don't like. Top of feet fat?

Yes, it's not a good look for anyone. I don't know why they're making those shorter and shorter. I don't know. It's like who knew the top of your feet could give you a muffin top? Exactly, yeah. Like no one needs to see all those creases. You know what I'm saying?

And so the eight and a half was heavy on the toe cleavage. The nine like hit it a little bit better because there was a little extra room up there, you know? So I was like, they kind of fit. No, here's what's up. She's trying to convince herself that it's okay to overspend on these shoes that don't fit her.

Well, they fit. There was like a centimeter behind my heel. And so I'm like asking them, I'm asking the man. If they fit, then why did I scotch tape the bottoms? Well, I haven't gotten there yet. And you're jumping through the story. I just want to know.

So I'm like, there's a centimeter behind and I'm asking the man, which he's a man, like, what the fuck does he know? You know, nothing. He's like, I don't think they look fine. I'm like, he's just trying to make his commission. So two women walk in and they're, and this I'm asking their opinion, right? And they're looking and they're chatting and they're, they're giving chic. And I'm like, do these look too big on me? And the girl's like, no. And I'm like, do they? And she was like, walk around, walk. And I'm like, okay, so I'm walking, I'm taking laps. She's like, no.

I mean, like, if you, like, you took my eye to it, if I just saw you on the street, I'd be like, oh, cute shoes. I wouldn't be like, oh my God, that girl's wearing too big of shoes. So I was like, okay, okay, I appreciate that. And so then I look at the guy and I'm like, let's get him. So he's like, I don't know where this party is in like the house.

And I'm like, it's in someone's backyard. He's like, you could like tape the bottom of them. I was like, oh, interesting. He's like, if they're not scuffed, you could exchange for the eight and a half. And I was like, he wants that commission so bad. I'm like, is this illegal? I literally was like, is this illegal? Is this a scam?

No, that's a good salesman. Good salesman. I felt safe. Yeah. I'm like, is this illegal? Love that for him. I literally was like, is this illegal? Is this a scam? No, that's a good salesman. Good salesman. I felt safe. I was like, ugh. He's not going to see you wrong. No. And I was like, that is a great idea. I will tape the bottom of them.

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I care. I care deeply. You do? Yeah. Yeah, Spotify wrapped is like my Christmas. You're like, oh my god, Benjamin, listen to Kodak Black nonstop. Like, you care? Yeah, I care. Every time someone posts a playlist, if they post a song, if they post whatever, I'm like, I care about this so much because you care about it. And also when I post my playlist, this is an album release for me. You know what I mean?

I'm like, this is very important. I also don't care about, we don't when I post my playlist, this is an album release for me. You know what I mean? I'm like, this is very important. I also don't care about, we don't need to be resharing our happy birthdays. I don't need to see everyone in your life post a photo of you for your birthday. I don't care about birthdays. We don't need a self promotion there, but like selfishly, I do like it when our household

lets people know her favorite show. Of course. That's what you're telling us, shut the fuck up. She only likes it when you post the vile files as your number one most listened podcast. Yes, of course. If we're in the top three, you can share. Top three.

I feel like four. If we're four, like, honestly, keep it to yourself. Like, oh my god, Jax was on top. He was on top. You know, like, I don't need to see, yeah, I don't need to see all these people who are above us. I gotta be honest, like, the podcast, I'm not really paying attention to.

I wanna know the music. Well, Taylor Swift is the number one most listened to artist of the year, not shocking. Was she in Anyone Here's Rap? I don't know how to look. You just go on Spotify. I know what's on my rap. It's called a podcast called Blue 80.

Packers podcast? Yeah. Okay. You should look at your Spotify. It's got like six reviews. I'm one of four listeners. Let's go. I listen to it on a 1.2 speed and I will listen to episodes two to three times. Like the same one? Yeah. That's dedication. No, it's because his voice is so soothing. It's just, it brings me peace. Is it Blue 58?

Blue 58, yeah. Do you fall asleep to it? Sometimes, yeah. Rock my daughter to it, you know? River's like, I was hoping for like classical music and it's like, well, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar,

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She is single. She is single. A word to a source from people. I forgot the name of the song. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't even know. She is single. Please, please, please. She is single. She is single. According to a source from People.

I forgot that her and Barry were dating, to be honest. I honestly thought they broke up a while back. They broke up, but I think they were like super public while they were together. And then they broke up publicly, then they got back together, low key, and then you just didn't see them together. I guess she was on tour, he was over here.

But I guess according to a source, they have broken up again. Wow. All right. She's gonna miss that huge D, maybe. didn't see them together. I guess she was on tour. He was over here, but I guess according to a source, they have broken up again. Wow. All right. She's gonna miss that huge D, maybe. I don't know. So long.

Is that okay for me to say? I mean, he's out there being like, that was my cock. Yeah. So. I mean, I think it's well within your right to say, you know? I think it's also well within your right to say. Yeah, I don't think he would be mad at you

saying he is a big dick. That's a true observation, right? Yeah. Yeah. They'll both be fine, I think is the takeaway. And she's like literally serving every night. I mean, I see her everywhere. Literally.

Her Juneau positions, it's like I wake up and I'm like, what was the new position? I need to know. The one of her, have you ever tried? Yes. Do you think she's as much of a freak her, have you ever tried? Yes. Do you think she's as much of a freak as she pretends to be? No. No.

We're all pretending to be freaks. I think it's great marketing. Have you guys seen, there was like, it was like Stan Twitter or something. And it was this like teenager that was like, people were getting mad that Sabrina Carpenter wasn't a good like role model for kids. And this like kid on Twitter was like,

I'm 17 and afraid of Sabrina Carpenter. And everyone's just like clowning this kid on Twitter. And now it's like, I think they made hats. It's crazy that her show is very sexual. She's in lingerie and yet it's like not for men at all. No, it's for the girls. You know, it just shows that like. It's like, we're being sexy to be sexy.

We're being sexy to be sexy. We're being sexy to be sexy. It's like not male gaze-y at all. She's doing drag. Have you ever tried this one? It's my favorite thing ever. Shout out Sabrina. You're gonna be fine. You don't need Barry.

Okay. She doesn't need Barry. Mattel sued over Wicked Dolls. Oh, as they should be. I can't believe they put a porn site on, like come on, protect your children. What the fuck are you doing, Mattel? Wicked. Whose fault is it? Is it wicked or is it Mattel's?

Who sued them? Mattel is getting sued by a South Carolina resident who's launching a class action lawsuit, basically claiming that they didn't offer a refund and believe she and her child suffered emotional distress. And she specifically said... Her? No. Her children? She said, these scenes were hardcore, full on nude pornographic images depicting actual intercourse.

Plaintiff's minor daughter immediately showed her mother the photographs and both were horrified by what they saw. For those who don't know, these Mattel Wicked dolls on the box have like Wicked.com and turns out Wicked.com is a porn site and the Wicked movie. It was supposed to be WickedMovie.com. Something, just not Wicked.com, I don't know the wicked movie. It was supposed to be wickedmovie.com.

Something like just not wicked.com. I don't know. But anyways, apparently Mattel doesn't have enough of employees to like fact check or do like a quick like www like is this a porn site.com. I swear nobody proofreads anymore. No. It's because Chachi BT is writing this copy.

There had to have been some man or someone's husband who was like, I know the site. Yeah. I've been on the site. When it says, it says Mattel pulled this, like from the shelves, pulled all the dolls from the shelves and then issued that statement that we read like weeks ago. So. I'm honestly shocked. There's not more lawsuits coming for that.

I feel like there's a lot of Sue happy people in this world. And like this would have been. This one is actually deserving. Yeah. But this is like such an opportunity for people to be like, oh my god, it killed, it hurt my family. Pornography is destroyed, yeah. It's a class action, so it invites other people to join.

Ooh. And it's also Mattel. Mattel and Universal both declined to comment, so. Yeah, what are they gonna say? Sorry your kid, like, my thing is like, obviously it's bad, but these kids can find Wicked.com no matter what, you know what I mean? Like, they can get born online.

Yeah, but they shouldn't be like, informed. Yes, I agree with that. Hey, in case you haven't heard. Maybe it's just me, but I was like, as a kid, like, I just ripped the doll out of the box. Like, who's reading the back of the box? That's not the point. I know, I know, I know. I'm totally against it.

All I'm saying is I'm just like, who's going to the website the parents The parents are seeing it the kids aren't actually you know what I mean also kids do not know what? WWW dot means if it was an app sure It's not the point. I know yeah, but it's just so fun. What is this only fans top earner is a virgin in a devout Christian Yep, I'm good. She holden $43 million. Sophie Rain says she's a virgin. And a flirty Floridian.

Why is that like, why is this new? She made $43 million. She made $43 million in one year on the website, but she didn't have sex. Is she not posting nudes? I don't think a lot of them are having sex. Just to clarify, I can confirm that she posts nudes. What was that, Zach?

That is Zach, a member of the household. Did you do research? Yeah, Zach, huh? How was your night last night? This story caught my eye when we were... Oh, you're right. You recognized her name? So I did some research and yes, I can confirm,

no porn, but yes nudes. Okay, all right. And how are yes nudes. Okay. All right And now are the nudes are they were they good were they giving forty three million forty three forty three million worth I mean why I use the company credit card The vile files is the number one business expense But so if there are there are later then when I saw when I saw this headline then I was just like, oh my God. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. But so there are new. Okay, so we can all check it out later then. When I saw this headline, then I was just like, oh, she's a virgin, she's a virgin.

A lot of them are not doing this. We need to all be on OnlyFans. A lot of them are not having sex on OnlyFans. We need to all be on OnlyFans. I think so. I think every member of this household should start an OnlyFans account. You don't have to ask me twice.

Yeah. Hey guys, comment who's Only OnlyFans you want to see. Oh God. It's all free, right? Like, let's just see what we can do. Yeah. If I can come close to 43 million. How is Tom Sandoval not on OnlyFans yet?

Because, because as this girl would agree, God exists and is keeping people safe. Yeah, I think that like, like I'm a devout Christian, like probably leans into some sort of kink. Fetish. Definitely. And good for her for like, for letting go, letting God. God forgives. He does. He does, yeah.

Larsa Pippen said that she made six figures just doing foot photos. Yeah. You know who is not. You want that nine carat ring? I do want that nine carat ring, but I feel like maybe I could do a couple of different avenues before I hit OnlyFans. I don't know. Maybe no nudes, for sure. with that nine-carat ring, but I feel like maybe I could do a couple different avenues

before I hit OnlyFans, I don't know. Maybe no nudes, for sure. Just like me smiling? Like what are we wanting, what are we thinking to sell? Honestly, I think there's a market for literally anything. I don't think we're gonna make 43 mil. Right. But she says this job makes dating difficult.

Yeah, probably. She expresses frustration with suitors who are just trying to date her for her body, not for who she is as a person, which has to be upsetting. That does have to be upsetting. But 43 million may make that a little bit less upsetting. Cause at least you're like crying in a nice pillow. That's true.

Yeah, rather be crying in a Bentley than on a bike. You're already married, so that's not an issue. That's true. You know who's not a virgin? Barbara Corcoran. Okay. Corcoran, she has short sex with her husband and she is not afraid to scream it from the rooftops. She- I think it's good for her still having sex. Well, yeah, I don't know how much they do have because she admitted that she and her husband, who got married in 1988, do that math, I cannot, they do sleep in separate bedrooms.

And she joked that that ensures that sex is a quote unquote, short thing. And this is so funny because she says her idea of a special night with her husband is a good game of Scrabble. He'll often say to me, S or S. And I'll say Scrabble because the first S means sex. So I say no, Scrabble.

So S or S. I aspire to have that level of communication. Yeah, that is good. Yeah, that is good s or s Yeah, I love beating him at Scrabble and he loves beating me at Scrabble and that's a great night Honestly, that would be that's really relatable the horny Scrabble Yeah, that's what I make it Scrabble. They can Scrabble strip Scrabble. Make and Scrabble. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Make and Scrabble. Make and Scrabble. Strip Scrabble. So what is this? Andy Cohen is basically explaining and justifying the Vanderpump reboot, similar to the Rony reboot.

How is that a good thing? Yeah, I mean, he basically said to dumb it down, he said it was the right timing, it was the right thing to do it. Season 11 set it up for like the closing period. And then he said, well, we did it with Roni. Well, and it failed with Roni. But everyone's pissed. Not the flex you think it is.

Paula Abdul hates Roni. So that tells you anything. I'm team Paula. Always have been. Ever since American Idol. It's not good. It's not good. Let's just call it a spade a spade.

I'm still watching it in hopes. Like last night's episode was okay, but I'm like, again, we need more drama than all of you talking shit about each other and who said what. And that's not even real shit. That's what I'm saying, it's not even like, yeah, it's not even real drama being talked about.

I just want Jenna Lyons to have her own show. Like that's the only reason I'm watching at that point is for my like, Jenna Lyons content. I know you love her and all, but like, and as a human being, I aspire to be her friend. Yeah. But she's not a good housewife. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I think they should reboot likeboot like Project Runway with Jenna Lyons. I'm there for that. I want her to like read these kids to Phil, which is what I want. She's too nice. I think she's too nice. Not if she was hosting Project Runway.

I think she could lean in. I don't know. She was eating a salad during her sale and got up to hug strangers. I was like, that's something. She's going to be too nice. She's a good person. She's a nice person.

She's the best. I love you. Rebecca Minkoff did say that. She's a good person. She's a nice person, 100%. She's the best. I love you. Rebecca Minkoff did say that the prank was a big mistake. Good, I'm glad she's acknowledging that. She's backtracking on that. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, Rebecca.

And I am sorry, but it is too late. Yeah. Your sock already ruined it. Yeah, you single-handedly bombed the show with two episodes of a prank that wasn't funny. Maybe it's a big thing, maybe Scientology didn't want Roni to continue. This Bryn Ritfield's giving us a real problem.

Scientology was like, the S word was like, sex is trouble. They were like, we are gonna end this show because you cannot be on it, so why don't you do this? Yeah, and she was like, okay. Ariana Manix reacts to claims of cramping? What did she say, did she admit to it or not admit to it? So she did her goodbye post for Vanderpump Reboot.

So last week it was announced that they are doing this reboot, and then you had all the cast of Vanderpump posting their goodbyes. I think my favorite was James Kennedy, where he was typing about how he's like, I'm crying. He said, I'm holding back tears. I'm holding back, when people talk about crying in's like, I'm crying. Like when people are- He said, I'm holding back tears.

I'm holding back, like when people talk about crying in their messages, I was finding it's like, it's right next to like the whole like recording herself crying. Anyways, but Ariana posted some very curated photos of herself and some of her besties and excluding some obvious members of the cast to which people reacted to.

Yeah. And what did she say? Well, so Lala, Sandoval and Jaxx were the ones that didn't ever make an appearance. And in Ariana's post? In Ariana's post. And it was like 10 slides and there was, it was a collage. So there was probably around like 20 to 30 images in the 10 slides. So she responded to comments.

So one comment was living for this carefully curated photo selection. She responded, I wish I could do more slides. I had a lot more things, maybe another post. Another comment said, just here for all the cropped photos and thanking everyone, but the cast. Cause a lot of the photos had like crew members and producers and everybody else. And she responded, that's what the pictures are for. Pookie.

Why are you just running Ariana? Yeah. Like, you know, just stand by your move. Yeah. So why are you just Pookie? You know, when you acknowledge trolls, you validate trolls. Like as soon as you start communicating with people in the comments, you're validating their opinions.

I don't know how to understand. Why just be petty? Yeah, it's like if you don't fuck with these people, don't fuck with these people. Don't fuck with them. Don't have to explain it. I don't know. Certainly not pooky.

And I also think people should understand her not wanting to post her ex, no? Or Jacks. Or Jacks. Or anyone, quite frankly. People she doesn't get along with. People she's not friends with. Sorry, I'm not posting pictures of people

I'm not friends with, that's weird. Yeah, she's trying to post about the best days of her lives and they probably weren't in those. They did not help create them. We all got paid. I don't need to thank them for co-starring with me. Fuck, man. The fans could thank them.

Go look at their post. They could want to see their photos. Imagine thanking, like, oh, coming off The Bachelor. I'm so thankful, making sure I post every person I was ever on the show with as if, like, I need to thank them. No, you're also posting the pictures that you look the hottest in. That's all I'm posting. Yeah.

And also, like, crop exists for a reason, and I think not using it is, like, worse than not cropping. I think it's really great when you crop not enough to, like, you let people know you are cropping and then you show just a little bit of the person that they can figure out who you're cropping. But it's, you know, that's the best, that is, that is. And that's kind of what she was doing. Yeah, this is amazing.

So own your pettiness, Ariana, just lean in. Well, I think she was trying to do the petty with using the word pookie, but I don't know. Yeah, but you know, I'm sorry. Once you engage with trolls, you lose. You give the power to the trolls. There is no good comeback to the internet. You are lowering yourself to their level.

But you know who else is petty, being trying to be petty right now? Brittany from Salt Lake City, because she claims to have got the same Saint Laurent heart jacket, but I will say hers looks a little flimsy. Thank you. She also, she didn't claim,

she was just wearing it at a YSL store. Her TikTok? She's wearing it outside of the YSL. Like she went to the mall and she's wearing a red fur shawl. So she had her friend sew it and then showed up to a YSL. It is a little flat.

I love it. It's giving, it's, yeah, it's a little flat. It's a little floppy. It's- Giving DIY or? No, I think it's still a Y flat. I love it. It's giving, it's, yeah, it's a little flat, it's a little floppy, it's... Giving DIY or? No, I think it's still a YSL. DIY. DIY, yeah. I think it's still a YSL piece, but the ones that her, Rihanna, have are like big and structured.

Raquel on Rony wore the same one that Brittany had in this week's episode, and it's very much like flimsy, does not hold the same shape. So I do think that Bronwyn's not lying about them being like three of that type of structure. Yeah, three heart structures, millions of shawls. Heart shawls, yeah. Red fur shawls. I don't know, her tic, Britney's tic-toc has been like popping off though.

It's the funniest thing in the world. Her dressing up green. She's on fire right now. Dressing up green in the streets and singing Wicked in the streets and singing wicked the streets of Vegas the streets of Vegas I need Bronwyn to respond and be like babe. We both know that is not the same But it's perfect for Brittany. I love her character is now I could be friends with brow in but I I love Brittany so much as a housewife I don't you know, I could be friendly with Brittany, you know

I could definitely offer some advice. As long as you don't put Bronwyn and Brittany in the same sentence, you're good. Well, according to Bronwyn. But I am, I absolutely love them both. And I just, I think they both deserve all of our love and affection and respect and credit because I think these were huge shoes to fill

and they have filled them amazing. I mean, for Brittany to be off a couple episodes and for us to feel that, I missed her so much. It was just like, oh, thank God she's back on my TV screen. Every time she opens her mouth, I'm stunned by what comes out of it. It's incredible. It's so good.

It's so good. What about me? You know it's perfect. I love her. What about you, girl? Girl, what about you? Well, speaking of talking more about Bravo, we got obviously to get into the Ultimatum, which just, girl? Girl, what about you? Well, speaking of talking more about Bravo,

we got, obviously, to get into the Ultimatum, which just released, we're gonna talk about the first episode, and we got the wonderful Katie Lee, an American cookbook author, also former ex-wife of Billy Joel, but more importantly, reality TV fan, Infinatic, and she is up next to talk about all things reality TV with us.

Before we get to that, so many topics I actually wish we had a chance to talk about all things reality TV with us. Before we get to that, so many topics I actually wish we had a chance to talk about. We will be talking about it this Friday on Pop Extra, your Vile Files plus pop culture topic that we drop every week and talk about your favorite topics we didn't get to talk about on Reality Recap. Some of the topics are, Claire Kardashian claims her therapist leaked

private information from her session to a tabloid. That is insane and so crazy. I cannot believe that happened. Eminem's half brother Nate reacts to his mom's death in a scathing post. Traitor season three trailer new cast of Sold on SLC. It's giving another thing, Mormon wives, Salt Lake City. We know we love Salt Lake City.

Salt Lake City is dominating. Is that the new Hollywood Salt Lake City? It's a new Hollywood. La La Kent is whitening her three-year-old's teeth And she is defending it in the back down. She's not backing down She is editing her three-year-old's photos, and she doesn't care what you think about it I'm sorry when you say she's whitening her teeth you mean like online or literally in her photos in an app and people are Caring why because because people just have issues with everything Kyle and Amanda tease

There will be a threesome in the upcoming season and it's not them That's it. Okay, and so much more. It's now time for vibes versus stats Okay, you guys Over Thanksgiving break I was really holding space and I was reflecting on what I've learned about football in my time as the Viopal's resident sports analyst Thank you. And you know what? I realized I don't really like I've learned about football in my time as the Viopal's resident sports analyst. And you know what I realized? I don't really like, I can't really get into men playing sports that much, but you know what I can get into?

Powerful woman. Okay, so this week I think we should play a game called Who's Cooler and Why Is It Always The Woman? In which I will read off some stats about each member of a football couple and you will tell me who is cooler. And they're not gonna be leading. These are genuine reactions. Starting off with our first matchup,

the Detroit Lions versus the Green Bay Packers. The game is tonight and for the Lions, we have quarterback Jared Goff who, as I said last week, does look like he thinks salt is spicy and his wife, Christian Harper, who is a Sports Illustrated model and actress. So who's cooler? Jared Goff, who completed 21 of 34 passes for 220 yards, scoring two touchdowns in a game last week, or Christian Harper, who made it to the final 15 of the 2021 Annual Sports

Illustrated Swimsuit Model Search and selected as one of six models to appear in the magazine, and was also in a short film called Seven's Eleven when she was 11 about a group of kids who have a candy heist To steal all the candy from a 7-eleven whose cooler. Oh my Christian by far. Yeah definitely a movie about A short film about taking over a 7-eleven honestly. And he was what 21 for 33 you said? 21 of 34 for 21. 14 points, that's all he got.

So he missed 13 passes, terrible. Oh my God, yeah. I think we're definitely. ESPN's saying. She definitely is cooler. She's definitely cooler. Okay, so woman won. All right, next up Packers quarterback Jordan Love,

who I will not joke about because I really like my job. And his fiance, Veronica Stone, who is a professional volleyball player. But who's cooler? Jordan Love, who's ranked number 17 in fantasy football quarterbacks, or Veronica Stone, who led the Pro Volleyball Federation in hitting percentage as the middle blocker of the San Diego Mojo? A female athlete. Let's be clear, Veronica Stone is an amazing name.

Incredible name. Yes. Is it a community? Veronica Stone, volleyball player for the San Diego Mojo. Mojo. Mojo. You heard it here first. Definitely her. Yeah. 17 on fantasy football? It's not good. Who's number one? Doesn't matter. 17 is crazy. I think it fluctuates, right? Not good. I don't know. That's what ESPN was saying yesterday. Okay. So Veronica? I think it fluctuates. Not good. I don't know. That's what ESPN was saying yesterday. Okay. I think we have to go Veronica Stone. She sounds like a superhero. Yeah.

Truly. All right. Here comes the hard part. Oh my God. So to pick this game, you're gonna have to pick who you would rather hang out with, Christian Harper or Veronica Stone. I have to go Veronica Stone.

I have to go Veronica Stone. So we're going Packers? I think we have to go Packers. Yeah. Sorry, you're gonna have to vote for the Lions this time. No, I'm gonna go with the Lions. We're all going Packers. We love the Packers. We love the Packers. We love the Packers. We would never say anything bad about the Packers. Yeah, sorry, you're gonna have to vote for the Lions this time. No, I'm gonna go for the Lions. We're all going Packers. We love the Packers.

We love the Packers. We love the Packers. We would never say anything bad about the Packers. Go Pack Go. Also, the number one Fantasy Football quarterback is Josh Allen, which got his 14. He got his 14 points on one play. That doesn't make sense.

Yeah, happily married to another very successful, very cool woman. I was gonna say, just kidding. It's actually Jaylen Hurts as of this week. So, my bad, my bad. Josh Allen's number it's actually Jalen Hurts as of this week. Josh on the number two. Well let's get into the number two. Game two our next matchup the Los Angeles Vans versus the Buffalo Bills. For the Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford who is from Tampa Florida and went to the University of Georgia. Love that. And his wife Kelly Stafford who has a football podcast so is a woman in STEM. Who's cooler Matthew Stafford who has a football podcast, so is a woman in STEM. Who's cooler? Matthew Stafford, who suffered a lateral ankle sprain last week but is powering through. Or Kelly Stafford,

who revealed on her podcast that she one time dated one of Matthew's backup quarterbacks in college to make him jealous. Honestly, like that's kind of iconic. Kind of iconic. Yeah. To be like happily married with children and be like, yeah, but like. In college. I did this to him. Exactly. I dated his roommate. He probably deserved it. No, his backup quarterback. Oh my God.

To make him jealous. His backup quarterback is crazy. Honestly. It's a power move. It's a power move. And I respect her being like, I'll tell it right now. Exactly. I'll say it.

I'll say it. Yeah. She did end up apologizing to the backup quarterback's family though. Yeah, that is fucked up. Because then people started talking about, which like, she was just telling a story. She wasn't saying anything about that. But like, he's happily married. He's happily married.

Oh yeah. That's a little messy. Little messy. A little messy, Kelly. I do like that Matthew is powering through his injury. He is powering through his injury. His injury from his wife's embarrassment or the ankle? Walk it off.

Probably both, I would imagine. The streets are saying. Matthew Stafford did throw me a pass when I was at the Rams-Packer game. Okay, that's cool. And did catch the football. And the streets are saying his ankle is going to be fine and he's going to play in this game. And then we have the Buffalo Bills, who is the recently engaged Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld. Who's cooler?

Josh Allen, who's the front runner for League MVP this year. Or Hailee Steinfeld, who nominated for an Oscar for True Grunt at 13, was in Pitch Perfect 2, the bad blood music video Bumblebee, the Spider-Verse movie, and played renowned poet and famous lesbian Emily Dickinson in a television show that was very unappreciated and canceled too soon.

I think the answer is quite obvious, Hailee. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go Josh Allen. I'm just kidding. I think the answer is quite obvious. Yeah I'm getting no. Yeah, definitely Haley's sorry. Yeah, sorry Josh, but now who would you rather hang out within the stands? So Bill's it is I'll go Rams. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I like it. All right. Well, that's it for Vise Versus Stats. Up next, the incomparable celebrity chef, Katie Lee.

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How are you? Great, how are you guys? So good, thanks for joining. Excited to have you. Oh, thanks for having me. First of all, your kitchen looks beautiful. I was just gonna come in. Well, thank you.

You all look very festive there. Oh, thank you. That's Justin very festive there. Oh, thank you. That's Justin decorated for us. We're in the spirit. Did a good job. Producer slash interior designer of the show. Are you cooking something right now or is that like just a piece that sits on top of the stove?

Can you give us some kitchen decor advice? It just sits there looking pretty. Okay. I like to have my Lucreux pots. I usually put one on the stove because I think they just look nice. Thank you for saying that. The correct way I've been calling it, the Le Crust.

So I do appreciate the correct terminology of that. And I- We have the same one in orange. Is it orange? I think it's orange. I don't think it would look as good on our- The white's pretty good. The white is pretty.

I would love to- I love those pots. I would love to know, what would you put in a secret sauce? A secret sauce. Like a tangy, like, you know, like a burger sauce, or, you know, everyone has like their own. Oh, a burger sauce. Well, the burger sauce is usually just mayonnaise and ketchup

with some pickle relish in there. I think if you want to take it up just a little bit, put about a tablespoon of the pickled brine in it, and that'll just enhance the flavor, and it gives a little bit more acid and a little more salt. Love that. Try that. Wow, I will try that out.

My go-to, and I'd love to know your take on it, is mayo, sweet Thai chili sauce, hot sauce, and honey. And a little chili. I mean, what could be bad about that? That sounds delicious. Delish. sweet Thai chili sauce, hot sauce, and honey. And a little chili. I mean, what could be bad about that? That sounds delicious. Delish. Okay, I just wanted to put it on.

I don't eat it, but I know how to make it for her. He does. I put it on everything, like a breakfast sandwich. I make these chicken bowls. I'll put it on taco. I'll drink it out of the container. Up for anyone can do what they want. It's pretty good.

I love mayonnaise, period. Yeah, mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise too. Nick is an anti-mayonnaise. I'm anti-mayonnaise, yeah. I'm an anti-manti. Yeah. Do you like ketchup?

Not really, no. Only with fries. What? Yeah, I definitely was not a ketchup kid, for sure. Wow. I was a mustard kid, I know. Olive oil and mustard, that's really. Olive oil. That's so different. So where did you grow up?

Wisconsin. Yeah, no, it's not a product of my environment, it's a product of my dysfunctional brain. Yeah, like it's my eating habits. My whole family. Are you a picky eater? Particular, yeah, I like things a certain way, Katie, for sure.

Okay, okay. There's just some things I don't eat, you know. I'm picky, I find a bit of a picky eater? Particular, yeah, I like things a certain way, Katie, for sure, yeah. Okay, okay. There's just some things I don't eat, you know? Picky, I find to be a bit triggering of a word and a little judgmental, if I'm being honest. I learned- It is, isn't it?

I learned this about him the incredibly hard way when he came to visit me in- The first time. In Georgia for the first time. And I was like, he's got a late flight, I'll cook him dinner. That's fun. I did a grilled chicken, I did sweet potatoes,

I did Brussels sprouts with goat cheese and balsamic vinegar. Oh my God, I was chefing. And he comes into the house and makes a plate with like one Brussels sprout, a sliver of a sweet potato, and I'm like, what's going on here? And he's like, I actually hate sweet potatoes. And I like brussel sprouts with just the brussel sprouts, nothing else on them. Nothing on them. No, no, butter and salt. That's a little olive oil. You don't like both sometimes? Well, sometimes you have to just eat it, even if you don't really want to because she was cooking for you.

That's where my flaws start coming. He can't choke down. I tried to. There was this whole Thanksgiving episode with meatballs and turkey that really, you know, yeah, we don't want to waste your time, Katie, telling you that story. You're watching Bev Hills? Oh, I love Bev Hills. Bev Hills and Salt Lake City are my two number ones.

I am having problems with Roni right now. No, that's because it sucks balls, Katie. Yeah, we all are. We tried our hardest to cover it. For a while, we pretended it was good, even when we knew it wasn't. Now we're not lying anymore. We're just-

It's just not. And like the way that they spent the whole episode on the prank, like there's that little happening on the show that they have to devote a whole episode to something that didn't even happen. Yeah. Yeah, meanwhile, then you turn on Salt Lake City and Lisa Barlow is refusing to get on an airplane

because she refuses to fly anything other than first class. And she's not fucking around. You know she's dead serious. And that is the authenticity that we love and appreciate. See, the thing about Salt Lake City is that every episode would be a season finale of another franchise. Yes!

Salt Lake City is one of the best shows on television. Ever. That's a great way to put it. I'm going tonight to hear Heather Gay at the 92nd Street Y. Salt Lake City is one of the best shows on television ever I'm going tonight to hear Heather gay at the 92nd Street why she's doing live She's doing a live but Brynn is interviewing Oh, I kind of wish that they gotten somebody I mean nothing against Brynn But you know, I'm just not like big on Roni right now. And I'm going to see Heather right after this. I'm interviewing her for my podcast and I'm dying. I like stalked her to get this.

Tell her we said hi. Definitely. And tell her to stop being such a chicken shit for coming on this show. No, tell her that. Oh my gosh. Well, you don't have to say those words. Why wouldn't she?

At all. No, no, not your words. Be like, Nick says stop being a chicken shit. Just just really Nick says, come on. Yeah, no, yes, that is the Nick says. Come on. She's aware I want her on. But I met when I met Heather, she pitched herself to come on the show

and then chickened out. So hey, listen, she's got a book to sell. Maybe things are different now. That's true. She is a good time girl. But wish her well, because we listen, she's got a book to sell. Maybe things are different now. That's true. She is a good time girl, but wish her well because we love her. I mean, Sierra doesn't, but I, yeah. Can we go back for one second to Lisa Barlow on the, not getting on the first class plane. Here's what I wanted to know about that whole situation was why did they fly private there?

And then they were flying commercial home. Like, wouldn't you just like the plane would be there for the two days? And then you fly home like what's that just for show because they wanted to look like they're on this big private plane But then they couldn't pay to bring it back. That's a good point And it's also like if you're not gonna fly private, at least be like, hey girls, got you private here, not private back, so like, I can get your tickets, but they will be coach. Yeah, like no surprises. So that tells me that Daddy Starbucks

maybe doesn't quite independently own that plane, but maybe like, it's like a co-op, like they share it together, right? I think it was definitely a charter, but I think that it was like, they probably weren't gonna show that they were flying commercial home, but when the situation happened about having to fly

and coach, then it became a storyline. And that's a professional though, at least. She saw the opportunity and she seized. That's heavy. She'll go the distance. Or Bronwyn just knew she was about to get five million dollars worth of diamonds and was like, yeah, these bitches can take me home.

You can fly your friends home or you can have this necklace. Yeah. Did she get to keep that necklace though? Because remember when they showed her the necklace, she said, well, think about it. And I think that she was borrowing it for the weekend. I think she kept it.

I think we could text her and ask her to prove it. Send this to us. Please. We did ask her. These are the things I want to know. Okay, all right. I won't do it right now, but I will text Browen and being like, is it real?

Can you prove it? Send the photo. I am trying to double date with her and Todd though. I do, I think that would- I don't wanna be there because I don't need- I think he would double date with her and Todd though. I do, I do, I think I would. I don't wanna be there because I don't, I don't need. I think he'd be great. I think he would be like,

I would just maybe be a little nervous. I think he's fine. Maybe be around him. It's like I would say something and he would be like, don't say that, you know? And maybe I would, I don't know how well I would be in that environment. You know?

I think he'd be uncomfortable when he's on the scenes. Like I'm worried that he's gonna like get on her about something. He's just a guy who just like doesn't care or understand these shows. And he's just like happy to let his wife do whatever she wants, but not happy enough

that he won't complain about it. Like that seems like a. I get that. He wasn't made for reality TV. But it's like. He's a business man. You know? made for reality TV. But it's like, no. He's a businessman. She still do it. She's growing and going anywhere.

It's not like he's like, you can't do the show anymore. He's just more like, this is weird. I also appreciate when people don't change their personalities for reality television. And I'm like, he's like, I didn't sign up for this. You did, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing coming out of you from being on a cast with these women, which is also not wrong in my opinion.

I'm like, I think some of them will bring out the worst in you in a social setting. As you see every episode, they're always fighting. Yeah. Yeah. Like for him. What did you, what were your hot takes of this episode of Beverly Hills? Well, there's the whole Kyle DeRite thing going on.

And I feel like the two of them are being very tit for tat. Like, you did this, you did that. And it's kind of like, OK, both of you just apologize to the other one and move on. I think the whole thing with the three, what she said at BravoCon really wasn't a big deal. I think that was a joke and ingest. And Kyle's kind of hanging on it. She's probably in a sensitive place right now. So that's what she's latched onto.

I don't think it was nice what Kyle said about Dorit of the whole bit about we're really not that good of friends. Like that's pretty cutting. So I think we've got to own that and it's time for them both to move on. I hope this isn't the storyline of the season. Oh God, I hope not. Cause it does seem a bit manufactured

and honestly like not that, I just don't. It just seems so clear to everyone else watching that BravoCon thing. That's a joke. It's a joke. Yeah, and I don't think Kyle is that unself aware or dense. I don't, I'm sure she's sensitive, but it's just hard for me to imagine that she doesn't understand, I don't. I'm sure she's sensitive, but it's just hard for me

to imagine that she doesn't understand. I don't know. Well, do you think that Kyle might just be trying to make something else her storyline that isn't Moe? Yeah, but yeah, that's a great, but they're clearly still leaning into the like, are we gonna get back together or not? Like, oh, he only signed a six month lease.

And I'm like watching it, it's just more like, they're almost too civil for a couple that is going through a separation. And I can't help but wonder if they're, if they already have their answer and they're both content with whatever that answer is, and the answer I'm assuming is they're not getting back together.

And this whole like, will they, won't they, is all for the, they're just almost too civil. They're so civil that I still like, every time I see them together, I'm like get back together, please, come on guys. There's too much love and respect here, you're not petty, like just figure it out. But they're clearly not figuring it out.

And it's like it's still. There's a lot of history. Yeah, and it's just, I don't know. So to your point, Mary, if that's the case, then we need Kyle to come up with a new storyline. Yeah, it's like, she's just like, she's just holding back. There's just this wall between Kyle and everyone else

and the audience that is just not, it's just not working for me, because I'm like, she's just like, she just seems very unsure of herself and like floundering and doesn't know what to do. And she just seems really lost. And like, I just want to want her like, be like, do what Dorit's doing and be like, fuck it, this is what's going on.

We need more, we need more airtime for Jennifer Tilly. I feel like what are your thoughts on her, Katie? I'm into Jennifer Tilly. I think she's like fun and adds like a lighthearted moment to the show. I liked her Louis Vuitton boat bag. Absolutely. I think she's good.

Do you know that she's the Simpson air now? What? Yeah, tell her now. How's that? Well, they talked about it in this episode where her ex is Sam Simon. He was like the creator of- Yeah, they kind of floated over it.

Yeah, he's the creator of the Simpsons. They got a divorce. He died and had no heirs. So everything went to his most recent ex-wife, Jennifer Tilly. Whoa. She has a lesser. Right?

Lucky. She's like divorces him like, oh, got nothing, you know? And then- Forget Bronwyn not having a prenup. That's her reality. She's got it. She can't keep up with all the money

pouring into her bank account. Wow. No wonder she had that Louis Vuitton boat bag. Yeah. You can spend money on a boat bag when you've got that much money. I'll tell you what, if I had this with the Simpsons era, I would not be on Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills. I think she's just doing it for fun. I would be out on my boat somewhere, forget the boat bag, but I would be on the yacht. Yeah. That speaks. And that'd be it. That speaks to Jennifer's potential though,

because she clearly doesn't need to be there. She wants to be there. I heard that she just like loves the show and is friends with Sutton who was just like, this would be fun to be on it. I think that's what, she's just like loves the show and his friends with Sutton who's just like this would be fun to be on it I think that's what she's just like there to vibe and that she literally has fuck you money She can say whatever she wants because it doesn't matter because I'm so rich. What are you gonna fire me? Yeah, well you can sue me. I

Like what like please sue me honestly like I have too much money She's got nothing to lose. Oh my God. She's one to watch. I will say I loved Kyle's, God gave you two ears, one mouth, you need to listen. That was a good line. That is a good one.

Because it is true. Who amongst the wives would you want to be friends with, Katie? Oh, well, I wanna be friends with Heather Gay. That's definitely my number one. And then I think on Beverly Hills, I would really like to be friends with Cathy Hilton. Yes.

I've met her a few times and she does not disappoint, but I'd like to be friends. Like I want to be on the trip to Oceanside. I want that hat. I want one of her pillows, the whole thing. She's having a Christmas party next Tuesday in LA that we're going to, it's a lot of fun. Oh, you're going?

She had real snow at her party last year in LA. You should come. I mean, I'm assuming you can come. I'm assuming you can get in. You can definitely invite. No, I mean, you can get yourself in, but like, you know. I will, I mean, we can ask for you. Yeah. I would be on the know, I will, I mean, we can ask for you, yeah.

I would be on the plane, I'd be right there. Did you see Cathy on Watch What Happens Live? Every time she plays that What's in My Bag game, she bombs it every single time. The way that she's like, it's flowers. It's like, we don't get the, it's like this is your fourth time playing, we don't understand the concept yet.

It's like the funniest thing to watch is this woman trying to figure out how to explain what is in this bag. The snow globe, she's like, it's snow inside a glass bottle. Snow globe, you got it. No, Cathy Hillen's Out of Touch is awesome. It's perfect, it's wonderful, it's so authentic.

It's amazing, I never change. And her ring light, her, what was that thing? Her ring that was, she's like, I'm gonna wear this today. And I honestly thought she was probably the first time she ever saw something like that. Yeah. She probably stole it from her grandchild. Yeah, probably.

I just can't get over her intro to the season be literally looking like she was getting the substance injected into her. It was like the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I love her. Would you ever be- Sitting there and glam.

Would you ever be a housewife, Katie? I would not. You definitely have the resume. You could do it. I don't know if that's a compliment or not. It is, it is. I would take it. But no, I wouldn't because I do think it changes your personal life.

And I'm very happily married and I'd like to keep it that way. My husband actually used to be a producer on Rony years ago. He was with the old cast. So, you know, I've gotten great stories from him. Does he have any notes on what they're doing wrong with this season? He hasn't watched and he actually didn't watch when he was a producer. He did that job.

He likes to do like food and travel programming. He was living in L.A. I was living in New York and he wanted an excuse to be in New York. So he took a job on Rooney. So he wasn't as invested as I would have liked him to be in New York, so he took a job on Roni. So he wasn't as invested as I would have liked him to be, but that didn't keep me from like pumping him for details. But he was on the seasons. Remember when they went to Columbia

and the boat almost sank? He was on that season. And he was on a season when they went to Mexico. But I kind of like remember it best by where they were traveling. That's incredible. Do you have any like hot cooking tips for us for the holidays?

Like, what are you recommending? Any like quick hitters or how to impress at your next Christmas party you're invited to? Well, I'm having a Christmas party next week and I'm doing a ham and martini party. I just planned it last night actually and sent out invitations. So I'm just doing a few friends and I'm making a ham and I'm going to do some pre batched martinis. And I think a really good thing

to do, you know, you always find yourself running out of glassware. So get online, find if somebody's having a sale on wine glasses or champagne glasses or martini glasses in this case, when they're like two or three dollars and buy like 50 of them. Keep the boxes and then you can put them back in the box and store them until the next time you're having a party. So like I did that years ago with wine glasses and champagne glasses, I bought 50 of each and every time time I have a party, I get those out. And the other thing that I'm really into this time of year, like speaking of the Le Creuset pot is to make a stew.

So if you're having like six to eight people for dinner, make a big beef bourguignon, get a baguette, make a salad, open a great bottle of red wine and call it a day. That sounds delicious. Oh my god, I'm hungry. Are you the only cooking your family or does your husband like to cook too? My husband's a great cook actually, but I don't really let him cook.

The kitchen is like my territory and I'm a little bitchy when he cooks. Like I kinda like tell him what to do, emboss him around a bit and he doesn't love it. It's something I need to work on. I love to cook, Nally can cook, but I'm less bossy, I'm more judgmental. I'm more like, why'd you do that? Why'd you do it that way?

Like you're doing it wrong. Yeah, he is. He's like, why would you cut him like that? Is that what seasoning did why'd you do that? Why'd you do it that way? Like, you're doing it wrong. Yeah, he is. Absolutely. He's like, why would you cut them like that? Is that what seasoning did you just put on that? That's an interesting choice. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, it's like, I think it needs a little more salt.

So wait a second, so Nick, you are a particular eater, but you like to cook. Correct, yes. So what's on your no-no list? And like, what do you do? you literally anything? It's just mayonnaise based it's just like you know American society feels like they should put a chipotle mail on every fucking thing and A sauce on every I just that's it like if you short of that, I I eat everything It's really just that stop ruining what about the brussels sprouts and sweet potatoes goat cheese and

To me goat cheese is the balsamic. To me, goat cheese is like, it's like mayonnaise adjacent. It's like anything, anything white and creamy, not for me, like Alfredo sauce, no, no, no. Cream cheese on a bagel? Absolutely not, no, no cream cheese, no cottage cheese, no sour cream, none of those. Yeah, it's crazy.

If it's white, it's not for me. I feel sad for you. I know. I know, yeah. He's missing out on us. But the things I do cook, which are many things, I cook them very well. He does.

Yeah, there's a right way of doing things and then there's a wrong way. And if you can't do them right, get the fuck out of the kitchen. You know, like I just, you know. Katie, do you have like six staples that you do over and over, or do you have like a plethora of just,

you're just, it's something new all the time? I'm always cranking out new recipes because I'm usually developing new recipes for our show, for the kitchen. So I end up doing a lot of recipe testing and writing those new recipes, cooking new things. But then I have my fallbacks that I always do. Like I have an oven fried chicken

that we eat probably once a week. I do a lot of sheet pan suppers because I have a four-year-old. So she's not eating all of the stuff that I'm cooking. So when it comes to like family dinner time, I'm making a lot simpler meals than I used to because I want all of us to be eating the same thing. See, that's like us, we have our six staples

and Nick doesn't like to venture out if there's not enough preparation. He needs to be like, head space needs to know that we're doing a new recipe. It'll be like four in the afternoon. She's like, let's do something different tonight. I'm like, huh? It's four.

I need to like go shopping and process. I gotta read the recipe. How do I cook this thing? I know I can close my eyes and make steak tacos and make them quite well. I get it. I feel like at four o'clock when somebody says, what's for dinner?

And if I haven't planned it out already, it's like I start to sweat and get anxiety. Like I want to know like every Tuesday we're having tacos like I know that that's easy. I do like the old school ground beef my daughter loves it and then every Friday we do pizza Fridays so I know I don't have to cook on Friday night and then usually on the weekend I do something in the slow cooker because we like to like get out and do stuff all day long. And that way I know that dinner's already taken care of. Okay.

That's that is smart. Does there come a point where you're like, I can't do pizza tonight? Yes, I kind of sick of pizza. And I didn't know that that would ever be possible. Right. But I'm like kind of tired of eating it now that I have it once a week. It used to be such a treat. Is that a product of children? Like, yes, yes, I definitely wouldn't

be having it once a week if I didn't have a kid. Does yours like pizza? Well, she actually does like pizza. We've given her pizza. She does love pizza. Have you done the crust like for the how she just choose on the crust? Yes, loves it loves it. So it is fun now that she's eating real food to like give her little bits of what we have and us all sit together at the table and so it is I do think about that when we're like what are we gonna have you know we have Nick makes a great kale salad with like a breaded chicken in it and it's like okay well she's definitely not gonna eat this salt and lemon kale,

like so she can have some of this breaded chicken. And like, it's fun to pull, you know, from our meal for hers. But I think it'll be- That's such a great age, like when they're starting to try things and excited to have it and not picky yet. Yeah.

Well, my favorite one is she like, she goes from one leg taste to another, you know, and her face will kind of be shocked and confused and curious all at the same time. I love it. Oh, it's the best. It's like every little thing you're just excited about. Yeah, I'm definitely not trying to pass my bad traits

onto my daughter, so hopefully. You're gonna pump her with mayo. We give her a lot of, she eats a lot of- Whatever she wants. She eats a lot of- Whatever she wants. She eats a lot of scrambled eggs with goat cheese, so. Oh, I know, I know, that's love. Ooh, I've never put goat cheese in scrambled eggs. That sounds delicious.

It's amazing. Nick, do you eat yogurt? Yeah, absolutely not, no. What about like vanilla ice cream? Yes. Will you have that? Yes, yeah, I love that. Okay, whew, we found something.

That's something along the white and creamy. Whipped cream? Love whipped cream. Love whipped cream? Love whipped cream. Love whipped cream. So you love a cream when there's sugar. Yes, yes. Yeah, okay. Got it, got it, got it, got it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You figured him out. You cracked the code. That's who I am. Yeah. Perfect. Nice ice cream sundae.

What else went on on Roni? They went on a girls trip. Kathy Hilton did Adult Duck Duck Goose. Okay. Oh, the adult Duck Duck Goose was incredible. Oh, and Garcelle's back. Yeah. She made her movie. Garcelle's son signed with LA Models.

The one with the eye tattoo? Jade. No, no, no. No, it's her young son. He's like 13, 14. Oh, okay. He's young, yeah. Maybe a little older than that, maybe like 15, 16. But yeah, he, and honestly, looked like a professional. It looked like he's in his lane that he should be in.

And even going back to the Dorit and Kyle conversation, if that's gonna be their storyline, I have to say it is actually really sad to watch because both of these women are going through pretty similar situations and watching them be at odds with each other instead of working together, helping each other out

with going through the separation. I wanna see them double dating like 28 year olds. Okay. That's what I wanna see. That's the- Twins. I was going more for the women supporting women. Twins, twins, even better. For sure.

Yes, that's how they should support each other. Yeah. Yes. I know. Mo's doing it, why can't Kyle? The two of them should be together. This is like when Stassi and Katie were like not talking in Vanderpump Rules and I was so sad.

That's how I feel about Durie and Kyle. I'm like, I want my, I need my girls to be friends. Yeah, like these, this is not the odds that I want to see this season. I want these two to like band together. I can't handle Wicked coming out and Kyle and Durie not being friends. That's just too much.

Have you seen Wicked yet, Katie? I haven't been, no. I'm afraid to go and have like people singing in the theater. Go to AMC, they make it so that you cannot do that. Well, then that's where I will go. If I ever make it into the movies, I haven't been to a movie in years. Honestly, like wait four weeks,

it'll be on demand then. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's so funny, we talked about it on our last reality recap and Nick was like, I haven't seen it, and then gave his opinion. And I saw people being like, the second Nick said he hadn't seen it, I tuned out. Cause it was like, we don't care.

No, I gave my opinion on the press release, which I've seen a million times, cause it is amazing. Well, we have to hold space. Yeah, we gotta hold space for that. You seem like you've met a lot of famous people. Have you ever been starstruck? I am starstruck every time I'm around Martha Stewart. So I've met her several times,

and I just, like, I always feel like I'm, like, shaking when I'm around her, and that something dumb's gonna come out of my mouth. It's like, I just never know what to say to her. I'm kind of like in awe of her. So Martha's definitely the one that I'm starstruck around. And I've met Paul McCartney a couple of times and that I'm always starstruck with him.

I mean, he's a Beatle. Yeah. Wow, those are two, yeah. I haven't met Paul McCartney, but I have been in the same room as Paul McCartney. But my best friend did propose to his wife on stage of Paul McCartney, because his friend DJs for Paul McCartney, fun fact.

Is there a world in which you'd almost want Martha to kinda yell at you and judge you? Because I feel like it's kind of her stick, where it's just like say something mean to me and make me feel bad. Like I almost- I wouldn't take it. It's like Mary, I want Mary from Salt Lake City

to just like insult me, please. Right, just, oh, yum. Mary's whole storyline with her son, like I feel like I'm watching something I shouldn't be watching with that. Yeah, that is, I mean, well said and very true. I do appreciate though, how she handled it. And I do think she is bringing an awareness

to a very terrible problem our country and our children are facing when it comes to the access that our kids have to these legal drugs that are the equivalent of like heroin. So on the flip side, how they went about it, yada yada. I think there's, yeah, it's like, I don't know if I should be watching it, but I mean, I really appreciated her authenticity

in that moment and the love that she obviously expressed for her child. Tough situation to be in, but yeah, it's definitely a, it's as real as it gets when it comes to like topical conversations. But again, speaks to the authenticity of Salt Lake City. You cut to that real conversation to like the women of New York are playing pickleball.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what, nobody in on the New York show would ever allow somebody to see their cracks like that. No. Yeah. Which I respect because nor there nor would we, nor would you, which is why. Right. Which is why I'm wouldn't be a housewife.

But it's like, you signed up for this, like what are you doing? Right. Come on, deliver. Anyways, any fun Christmas plans? What do you guys do during the holidays? Yeah, so my husband's family is going to come stay with us. We're planning on just having a very cozy holiday, very chill. I, you know, we have a lot of friends who come by during this season. We live in Manhattan,

so it's kind of like, you know, a revolving door friends coming around. And I have my fridge all stocked with lots of different snacks so that I can entertain easily. And I have a lot of wine on hand for the season. Um, I have my own line of wines called kind of wild. That's an organic zero sugar wine. So I've always got a case of red and case of white and bubbles and ready to go. So it can be a party anytime. We'll be in New York in December. I was just hoping that revolving door was still revolving at that time.

Come on over. I'll make a beef bourguignon and we can talk about housewives. Please. I'd love to have you all for dinner. Jackie. So much fun. We would love to be friends.

I don't even know who your husband is, but I aspire to be his friend. And we could talk about making reality TV. Certainly we have a lot in common. And then we could talk about cooking. I think we'd all get along. Yeah. Perfect. I love this. You and I can judge if they try to cook anything. Yes.

And then our daughters will play together. It'll be perfect. My daughter loves babies. So come on over. Let's do it. We'll be there. Can I ask you a small personal question? You can tell me to fuck off. Do you guys ever listen to Billy Joel? No, we don't. But it does seem like you know You go to a department store and it's on in the background or yeah Let's get the fuck out of here He's a good sport

But I do I love Bill's music. It's not like I don't like it like a true ex-wife, yeah. I love that. Iconic. Katie, thanks so much for joining us. So much fun. Can you please plug whatever you love to plug and tell us all the great stuff that you're doing? Well, follow me on Instagram at Katie Lee Beagle.

I'm always posting new recipes there. And check out my wine, kindaawildwines.com. And my podcast is all on the table. You know what, that's what you should come when you're in New York, be on my podcast and we can talk about everything you like and don't like to eat. I'd love to meet up with you guys.

All right, all right, we'll see you then. Get in touch. All right, thanks for having me today. This was a lot of fun. Thanks for coming, so much fun, take care. All right, so much fun, lovely. So much fun. Can't wait to hang out. All right, get in touch. All right, bye Katie. Thanks for having me today. This was a lot of fun. Thanks for coming, so much fun, take care. All right, so much fun, lovely. So much fun. Can't wait to hang out.

I know, same, I can't wait to eat her cooking. All right, it's time to get into the Ultimatum episode one. Guys, if you aren't, like, so for those of you who don't know, the Ultimatum, season three on Netflix, came out last night. I think there's like five episodes for us to watch right now or something like that. I've only seen the first episode.

It's a much watched. If you guys are looking for something to watch over the weekend, catch up on the Ultimatum. We'll get into episode through five on Tuesday's episode of Reality Recap. But like it's delivering. I'm really enjoying. I feel like, you know,

cause this is the same franchise, this love is blind, same creators, same makers, you know, Nick and Lashay or Vanessa, Nick, or whatever the fuck. They're doing their thing. Nick and Lashay. Nick and Lashay. They're doing their thing. Nick and Lashay. Nick and Lashay. They're doing their thing,

they're talking about again their relationship and how they got together and how like whatever the fuck. I don't know. She issued him an ultimatum. Yeah, she issued him an ultimatum. But like, I love, there's not enough of reality TV shows that are exploring like couples and relationships and like the couples who are like,

are they gonna get married or not gonna get married? I'm very excited about the potential of this show. I really, so we had season one that was a while back, and then we had the queer ultimatum. Was that season two? Psychotic and incredible. Heard it was very messy, I did not get to watch it. Well, not get to, I haven't watched it.

I guess apparently, I'm sure it's still available for me to stream, I don't know. Netflix? Netflix, yeah. Anyway, season three is upon us. I'm excited watched it. I'm sure it's still available for me to stream. Netflix? Netflix, yeah. Anyway, season three is upon us. I'm excited. They have six couples. We got Nick and Sandy, Mariah and Kayla, Vanessa and Dave, Chanel, Micah, Scotty and Ariana.

I'm gonna go ahead and throw out that the fact that Dave pointed out who he was interested in within five seconds is insane. And also she didn't like him. Dave is on my shit list. First of all, I was like, I've never seen this show. So this is like mind blowing for me, where I'm like, if Connor looked me in the eye

and said, we're doing this experiment, but just so you know, I might match with somebody during this dating. He goes, I find her interesting. And he goes, and the girl across from us, I find interesting. I'm like, all right, mic's off. I am not getting engaged to you, sir.

And her response was, she's 24. And he goes, I just said she's interesting. And I love how that was supposed to be a deterrent for him. Oh yeah, he's like, double down. He's like, oh my God, I didn't even know that, but now I'm even more interested. So it brought me a lot of joy. It's great.

Who do we think, there's so many interesting like relationship questions that like are revealed from watching this show. Oh my god, yes. Do you judge people's sex ability by their horoscopes? Is that actually a thing? Are people being serious about that? I don't know enough about it.

I think Scorpios are serious about it. But it's- That's clear watching this show. It's also like the only zodiac sign where I feel like that is talked about where it's like Oh, nope, Scorpio's crazy in the sock, but you don't hear about Capricorns or Leos or anything. It's just this yeah It's like marketing for Scorpio's. Libras are also crazy in bed. Really? Yeah, I feel like they can't make a decision. Huge dick. No, they're people pleasers. They're people pleasers.

Yeah, I guess. Libras? Yeah. Nick is a Libra. I'm a Libra rising. But they're people pleasers. They're people pleasers. People pleasers, yeah. Libras? Very, yeah. Nick is a Libra. I'm a Libra rising. But they're so great in business. Also great in business. Yeah. Good fathers, good husbands.

I don't know. When people in these situations talk about astrology, I'm like, I- That was, it was like nine carat, I think, from Tikori. They're so earnest about it. It's just like, I don't like the way I engage with astrology is like when I'm having a tough time I start listening to my astrology podcast. And then when I'm fine, I'm like, I don't need it.

But I like, when I'm like going through it, I'm like, Chani Nicholas saved me. But yeah, astrology for dating, I don't, I don't know. I will say I do not think Nick and Sandy last. I do not, her being Sandy last. I do not. No, they're done. Her being like, JR is so sexy. I am like, she's gone.

I think she hates him. I'm kind of hoping for another Vanessa and Nick. For those two to pair up. We've got Vanessa and Nick, the hosts, but Nick and Vanessa on the cast. Yeah. I'm hoping that they match up. They're into each other.

Yeah, that would be a good mix. Nick and Sandy, yeah. Nick is dating Sandy hoping that's great. They're into each other. Yeah, that would be a good mix. Nick is dating Sandy because she's hot. Yeah. Yes. And he wants to believe there's more than there is to this relationship. Her voice is, I'm finding it difficult to digest right now.

It might change for me. I don't even know how to. She kind of looks like. She looks like Jess from Love is Blind. Oh, she kind of looks like Emily Radikowski. I think Mariah is so stunning. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I. It's a good looking cast, girl.

Like the whole cast. Well, to do, to make, that makes sense. To do this show, you have to be in the same leagues. Yeah. You can't, right? You can't wanna like leave your current for like. It's already hard enough. I mean, like it is crazy because now you have Mark on the end of episode one, the classic,

I think it just happens, well, it happens season one. There's always like one couple, it's like, I don't think we need to be here. This isn't for me, I already got the answer I want. It's always like the one guy who can't make a connection. But in fairness to him, he's got like literally five options. You're talking about Dave? Dave, I'm sorry, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, yeah, yeah.

So like no one likes Dave. Dave's main option that he thought he had the best connection was like, I have no chemistry with you. And then he was all of a sudden like, wait, maybe I should propose, like maybe. And I'm like, oh, drives me fucking nuts. What was the game that they played that like ended in drama

that they all knew and it was basically just like telling. Oh, and it's heads or tails and they all flip heads? It was like a. They all flip heads. It was also like adult telephone. It was like them telling a secret and then if they flipped heads, then they have to share what the secret was and answer it.

I didn't have to just ask the question out loud. No, let's get to it. Right. After watching the episode and looking at all of these couples, none of them are gonna make it. That's my theory. Yeah, it's like, what do you think

the new couples are gonna be? They all seem like they hate each other. They came on the show. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. We could leave now and she's like shut up No, she's like no, I want to be on the show and fuck someone else. It's crazy It definitely like makes you like appreciate what you got, you know, you know It's a good way to like really I guess I don't know. Would you do it? Uh, would I do it? No, absolutely not No, what I would you issue me an ultimatum? I mean, I don't think I won't I don't feel like I didn't issue an ultimatum I was like, I'm out of here. That's true. Yeah, well style

But no you did issue an ultimatum and then you set your boundary Oh, I guess yeah that is an ultimatum to be like I either like we're gonna date or I'm out of here Yeah, yeah to be like, I either like we're gonna date or I'm out of here. Yeah. I didn't know what to make of it. I was like, am I talking about that? But you did it in like a normal way of being like,

let me just talk to my partner about this. Or let's go on a reality show. Yeah. But can we talk about that for a second though while they're playing these games and everything. And I'm just like, you're looking at your ex, but they're still technically your partner because they want you to propose,

but then they're talking about who they would choose if it wasn't you. It's so toxic. It's like you're looking at your ex, but they're still technically your partner because they want you to propose, but then they're talking about who they would choose if it wasn't you. It's so weird. It's so toxic, it's amazing, it's awesome. It's amazing because I've never seen anything like it, I'm surprised that there's not more physical fights. It's like these men hate each other. How many of these people are actually getting off on this?

How many people are, you know, like they're- You know, Sandy's loving every minute of it. Oh yeah. They're kind of open. JR, JR with the arm, the awkward hand on shoulder during the conversation, like they're, you know, Sandy's loving every minute of it. Oh, yeah Jr with the arm like the awkward hand on shoulder during the conversation I was like tell me you're trying to make your ex jealous without telling me You're trying to make your ex jealous. Is a daughter of a pastor? Yeah Do you feel like you have a better connection with JR? Yeah. Well, we both like to put cologne on our balls

Great. Thank you for bringing that up. I for the for the men For the 10 men listening. Do you do that? No. You don't? No, that is, JR, it's a violation of cologne. Like, bro, you do not need that much. First of all, cologne's expensive. You're wasting too much cologne.

You go one, two? Not even, like one spray, and then if you wanna like, you know, if you wanna get other parts of your body, then you just kinda wipe the tip after you spray, get a little residue, put it on your wrist, if you wanna put maybe tops. You definitely don't do this. You're like, you do a three on your neck.

Woo! Called out. Small ones, small ones. Quarter pumps, quarter pumps. Do I wear too much quarter pumps? No, you smell amazing. Delicious. He was showering himself. And then why is he...

His chest was wet afterwards. He doesn't need to say... Puddle. Puddle. What did he... He said... How did he describe it? Balls and butt, butt, behind. He said behind. Balls behind, armpit, armpit, behind the ear.

Just say down there. Behind? Who's smelling your asshole? I don't know. He said behind balls behind armpit armpit behind the ear. Just say down there Who's smelling your asshole? I don't know. I just like know that if you were in an elevator with that man Why does your asshole need cologne? Like do you stink in your asshole? Are you washing your body? Can you just wash your butt? Wash your ass. There's body wash. Yeah, that's why they make it. Yeah. He would literally, if you were in an elevator. No, he's literally telling everyone he does not wash his ass. Wash his ass.

He's like, I don't wash my ass, I just play cologne. You know he was an axe kid. Yeah. He was an axe kid that graduated to cologne. Yeah, JR. He doesn't change his routine. How much cologne do you wear, Justin? One spread on the body, like chest,

and then one on the wrist, but then dab the neck. Yeah, that's the normal amount. So two. I dab on the wrist. You're not paying attention to my routine, baby. You never dab. You're not a dapper. You do not.

I do what? I'm not being seen by you. You sprayed it before we had sex the other night, and you went, three. That's a lot of, you know. It was late. I know, I also was like, we're about to go to bed. Like, why are we like?

Because I'm still putting in the effort. Trying to do the nightly ass. I'm putting in the effort. Trying to do the nightly, yes. Putting in the effort. That's my girl for my girl, you know? Can you say maybe there's a chance tonight? If I smell good? Will you come closer? No, no, no. It was a done deal. I was...

It was a done deal. It was sealed. It was sealed, yeah. Good for you. That's true. It was S. I knew I was getting some, for sure. It was S. There was no scrabble. It was just S. S for S. Yeah. We made love. Oh my God. Okay. We fucked. I'm getting some for sure. It was S, there was no scrabble. It was just a S. S for S. Yeah, yeah.

We made love. Oh my God, okay. We fucked, I'm kidding. Now it's, we're getting, oh my gosh. Okay. So yeah, I think everyone should be watching Ultimatum and it's very good. Yeah, Zaina seems so sweet with JR.

I just don't get that couple. Like I don't understand any of them. None of them make sense together, the original couples. Well, the Scotty and Aria. Ariana hates Scotty. Aria. Aria? They hate each other.

Oh yeah. She's like, what, you want someone to pay attention to you and be nice and actually be your girlfriend? He's like, yeah. He's like, well, that's not who I am. And then she has a mental breakdown when he's talking to, what's her name? Zaina. Zaina.

Zaina. Hold her hand. Yeah. Hold her hand. She's a mean girlfriend. They definitely, when they did the intertwined fingers, though, I was like, and they're all drinking. I was like, that would send any ex-girlfriend up today.

Yeah. By the way. And she's still hoping for a proposal. Yeah, I hate that it's like ex-girlfriend because it's like, you're not's like you're not like we're yeah But he issued the ultimatum and now she's mad, but they're broken up. I know they're broken in the world of the show It's a crazy concept. I really hope everyone is watching. It's insane I am addicted guys if you're looking for something to watch this week and get to work. It's on Netflix

It's the ultimatum I mean, I'm assuming most of you guys are all watching it But like we all know that there's just a limited things out there to watch. And like this is, if you're looking for a competition dating show, this is the one you should be watching. We will be talking about it. It's time for us to go. We'll see you on Thursday.

Well, this is Thursday. We'll see you. Have a great weekend, everybody. Go watch the Ultimatum. We'll see you on Monday. Bye. You