The Viall Files - E86 Crying on the Roof with Meghan King Edmonds

Episode Date: January 29, 2020

Today, Meghan King Edmonds of the OC Housewives comes into the studio to talk life after divorce, how she deals with overwhelming emotions, and whether or not she will be going back on reality tv. Plus, hear the surprising things she’s looking for in a future husband. Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: IQ BARS: text FILES to 2-9-0-7-1 SKREWBALL WHISKEY: https://www.skrewballwhiskey.com EMBARK: https://embarkvet.com/ CODE: VIALL BETTERHELP: https://www.betterhelp.com/viall See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What is going on everybody welcome to another episode of Vow Files joined by my trusty producer Rochelle. Hello. How you doing? You were great on Lights with david spade i just watched that was not but thank you for being nice why do you say that i i didn't think it was that great some of the critics were particularly harsh what did david spade say i think he said he tried dot dot dot did he yeah yeah so it sounds like david even thought it was terrible well okay so can you tell people what the premise is if they didn't see it? The premise is, is David and a guest usually will come up with some jokes, usually kind of based off of your character, my character being I was on The Bachelor.

Yeah. And then you walk into a room and the audience doesn't know that you are in fact being fed jokes by David and his guest my guest being Courtney Cox David's guest

that was very cool and then you have you have two earpieces in your ear and you're supposed to they're both supposed to work yeah and they feed you jokes

and then you know they feed you the setup you know and then you say the setup and then they feed you the punchline yeah that's so hard well I one earpiece didn't work which one you the setup you know and then then you say the setup and then they feed you the punchline yeah that's so hard well i one earpiece didn't work which one i had one working earpiece so it was

hard to hear left or right i don't know and then the crowd was all dudes like you walked in you're like none of these guys watch the bachelor and it was just all bachelor jokes yeah um but uh in the right audience it was still a lot of fun and I appreciate them having me. And. I think it's cool you did it. That's a scary thing to do. Probably not my calling. No, that's not what it is.

That's like, obviously they put you in a very precarious position because it's funny to see, you know, someone fail. You know what I mean? I'm glad. I don't think that you failed. I thought you were really funny. I'm glad I could have made that happen. No, I thought you were really funny.'m glad I could have made that happen no

I thought you were really funny well uh it was a lot of fun and I do appreciate David having me and you guys should check out his show Lights Out it's uh

it's a lot of fun uh we have a great episode today Megan King Edmond joins us she's been uh all over the news

yeah she has did I not say Edmond's right I think you said Edmond. Yeah, well, whatever. He's gone. He's gone. But we met her at the podcast. We met her at the podcast awards.

And we're like, Megan, come on our podcast. She has a new podcast that is out. But she's a lot of fun. I didn't know much about her. I certainly recognized her. I certainly had heard of her. I don't watch Real Housewives. But obviously obviously she's

been in the news a lot when it comes to obviously her divorce and she's been very honest and open about it and i think a breath of fresh air to a lot of her fans and um she was kind enough to join us and uh talk with us a little bit yeah i'm a real uh real housewives of orange county fan so i was extremely excited to meet her. Was very excited. And she, yeah, it was just a lot of fun. And she's on this new journey of her life and which can be scary and tumultuous.

Tumultuous? Tumultuous? Wow. Do you know what I mean? Anyways, sometimes not fun for people. And we thought there, a lot of people might be able to relate trying to start a new chapter in your life. And Megan was kind enough to join us.

Yeah. So before she left, she was like, there's a celebrity psychic that read your aura and she read my aura and then she read it out loud to us. When I met Megan, she told me she has a friend who's a celebrity psychic who reads auras. psychic that read your aura and she read my aura and then she read it out loud when i when i met megan she told me she has a friend who's a celebrity psychic who reads oras mikaela uh i'm a bit of a skeptic when it comes to uh psychics or readings apparently you can have a color yeah uh and you're able to certain people her psychic friend is able to sense

these colors and give people readings without even necessarily having to have met them yeah sounds fishy to me I'm a bit of a skeptic but she

just sent the reading that her friend gave to myself and Vanessa right after we broke up. I thought. And Megan shared

it with us. It was interesting. I'm going to just read it really quick because I feel like you guys will like it. But this is what she wrote. I'm not surprised to hear that Nick and Vanessa broke up. With Nick's green and purple aura, he's extremely complicated and has a hard time settling in life. Vanessa being indigo and purple is

able to see and perceive any slight changes in the atmosphere of the emotional relationship. Nick is highly intelligent and constantly needs to be poked and prodded in a relationship in order to continue to maintain its chemistry. When Nick isn't feeling challenged, he can put a wall up. Vanessa can take this wall and interpret it as rejection. In order to keep the relationship alive alive Drama is an effective tool to be used In order to get Nick's attention again I feel like it was a toxic cycle And although it's sad they couldn't figure it out

I feel like it's probably for the best Love should never be a struggle It wasn't entirely off Nick was like started like Getting this weird look on his face When he read it for the first time it was uh she's better than I thought yeah she she was so props to her a psychic friend who um is doing something right I guess I don't know her it's only she had the inside information but

yeah it uh there there was a bit of a an unfortunate cycle in our relationship. Yeah. Wow. So apparently I'm complicated. So Megan King at Edmonds joins us. She's delightful. I really enjoyed getting to know her. And I hope that you do too.

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I'm doing well, thanks for asking. That name just rolls right off the tongue. We were talking before we started about people keeping their married names after divorce. Yes. It is. I just was curious about that. And I figured,

Hey, let's just start this episode. The name, the name game. With the name. And that's like, that's something that people, when they get divorced,

especially, I mean, women specifically have to, another decision they have to make. Yeah. I mean, maybe if you, I mean, women specifically, have to, another decision they have to make. Yeah, I mean, maybe if you, if considering, you know, maybe that woman didn't take their husband's name. There's that too now. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, actually, when I got married, I didn't want to take his name. I thought my name was King. Why would I? It's a great name. Hell yeah.

Yeah, isn't it? It's a good name. It's a strong name. It was my name for many years. would I? It's a great name. Hell yeah. Yeah, isn't it? It's a good name. It's a strong name. It was my name for many years. And he wanted me to take his name, which I also understand. And so we compromised. And I said,

if and when we have a child, I will change my name so that I have the same name as the baby. And I did. And so. So you were Megan King. And then when you had your first kid, you went Megan King Edmonds. Or did you just go your first kid, you went Megan King Edmonds,

or did you just go by Megan Edmonds? Megan King Edmonds. Okay. But King is my middle name, officially. Also, I named- Did you change it to your middle name? I did. Okay.

I added it. Cool. I just added it. I didn't change it. Why not? I just added it in. It's a great name. Thanks.

I love it. I feel like my mom downgraded when she got married. What was her? I mean- What was her middle name? Parker. Oh, that's a cool name solid i could have been nick parker yeah but now you can take that name and name it name one of your kids parker oh that's cool no i mean if i ever have a kid i want my first kid's name to be parker yeah boy or girl that boy i would prefer a boy you'd prefer a boy boy for the name Parker or for your child? Both.

I'm kidding. I'm mostly kidding. I kind of don't think you're kidding. I have nieces and nephews. I've always wanted a son. And like, I just, when my nephews come around, I just, I like them more. That's okay. That's okay.

I love my nieces. I just, if I'm lucky enough to have a daughter, I'm sure I'll feel, you know, different. Of course, I mean, you would love your child. I connect with my nephews and I don't know. I mean, that's fair. Something I've always fantasized about having a son. Yeah, I think that's totally fair. What do you want me to say?

Yeah. But yes, a parker would. That's cute. That's cute. I like that's totally fair. What do you want me to say? Yeah. But yes, Parker Wood. That's cute. That's cute. I like that. For a girl. Well, so my maiden name, King, is all three of my kids' middle name. So they're all Aspen King Edmonds, Hayes King Edmonds, Hart King Edmonds.

Cute. Clever. And so you plan on keeping the Edmonds? I think so for now I mean um because I kind of made like this name for myself like on on Instagram Megan King Edmonds and it what are we gonna do I mean I would want to change my name sometimes like you know I got into acting and just like you know but you're stuck with when you what you sign up for SAG, you're just like, well, now you got to pick your name.

Oh, yeah. And now it's just like, well, I can't pick a different name. I'm Instagram. I know, right? That's terrible. Or is it? Instagram rules are decision making. And like my name was so long on Instagram,

I couldn't even add the King in there. It has to go Megan K. Edmonds. Oh. But you could. Have you looked for Megan K. Edmonds. Oh. Huh. But you could, have you looked for Megan King? Is it even available? Yeah, I've looked. I've looked.

I really want Megan. I wrote to the person who has Megan. I asked her for that, but she didn't respond. She has like 20 posts. Like that's not, she's not active. Wow.

And when was the last time she used it? I don't know. I don't even know if she's read my message. She's sitting on a goldmine, right? We can talk offline, but there might be a way we can get you. He knows Mr. Instagram. Oh. If they have it, we'll make sure you get on this before Wednesday, before this episode

drops. But if they haven't used it in a while and it's not an active account um and they'll look they can look into that it might be something you can do really if you can change the your instagram to megan will that completely change your decision on keeping your uh married last name i i don't know i mean i definitely would change my Instagram to just Megan. But no, I mean, I don't think so. But my idea is that I will kind of phase it out, Edmonds out, and just go by Megan King. But I think MKE looks really cool and sounds cool. For sure.

You think so? I mean, I think it looks like King Edmonds. Yeah. I just do. Yeah, it kind of flows. It's just an interesting, I mean, obviously we're talking about Instagram and branding, but just like the identity. We were talking about my grandmother, Phyllis.

We all know and love her. She got divorced from my grandfather, I don't know, like in the 60s-ish, maybe early 70s, I don't know. It was a long effing time ago. And she's always just kept Viall as her last name. I mean, makes sense if it's your identity, right? And it's interesting how that goes into women's decisions when they get divorced. I mean, for ones who decided to take their husband's last name. Right.

And which actually brings up another thought of why don't men take the woman's last name? I mean, King is a great name. King is a great name. I dated. And Parker is a great name. Your mom's made it.

It is. I dated a girl who with the last name Fury once. That's strong. F-U-R-E, great name. And she tried to convince me to take that. I mean, there's an identity, and I get it, right?

The pass on the father's name and kind of a traditional aspect of it. I mean, I will say when I was younger, it was, you know, for all my girlfriends that I had in my twenties and, you know, you'd think about, you'd talk about marriage or whatever. And there'd always be this discussion. And I didn't realize that I didn't have the best last name until I started dating. You know, when I was growing up, I was just like, oh, Viall, you know, whatever. And then I started having girlfriends. They're like, it's not the best, you know?

Oh, like they're thinking about it already? I mean, maybe. I feel like that's kind of like what you do when you're on The Bachelor or The Bachelorette. You're thinking about marriage and taking on somebody's last name, right? It was long before The Bachelor, but yes. you were you were getting groomed i was yes i was i was getting groomed um and i remember it would be like these little fights you have but like you know i was

like oh no i have to and i you know and it was more about them like you wouldn't take my last name you know and i was like offended by that because you know you're i don't think vial's that bad of a last name it's fine but i i'm just saying like i i was i don't really still maria vial yeah your sister well she works probably you know she has a she it she's taken his last name oh secretly no but like in life but you know before you know she she she's a strong local presence and with her wellness and in her business. So like for that purpose, she hasn't changed it. What I guess what I'm saying is, yeah, if I got married now, I don't think I would really

care. Oh, really? Yeah. So you wouldn't care if you got married and your wife and you have a baby and then that baby does, doesn't have the same last name as your wife or what? have a baby and then that baby doesn't have the same last name as your wife? Or what? If I got married and

she was like, I really want to keep my maiden name, that's not a fight I would pick. I just don't care anymore. Now if we had kids, if we had kids, yes, I would want them to have my last name. That might pick a fight there.

The hyphenatingating i don't really care i know the hyphenation thing like it's a lot it's a long i that's how i feel yeah that's why i gave my my maiden name to my kids middle name so it's like it's not as long they can use it if they want but it's not a legal name. Hyphens are hard. Okay, so my middle name is O'Toole. There's an apostrophe. And it's kind of a pain in the ass. Your middle name is O'Toole? That's my mom's maiden name.

So I just continued the trend. Easier on your kids, King being easier than O'Toole. Yeah, I mean, apostrophes, like on some things, they don't allow apostrophes. And then also I have, it's capital O, apostrophe capital T. And on some forms, they don't allow two uppercase letters.

It's just annoying. So just don't do the hyphen. You know, I've gotten to say yes to the dress recently. So I've been watching old seasons and I saw you the other day. Wait, you were on Say Yes to the Grass uh huh

a billion years ago I've seen that show I dated a girl who watched it it's a fun show I remember getting into it like it was a Saturday afternoon she's watching it I was like what are you watching it was that your first reality TV I think so

I think so I did something in St. Louis. It was Resale Royalty. Yeah, it was. I don't even remember what. What's that about? It was about a secondhand store. And I worked there. I was an employee there on the secondhand show.

But in reality, I worked five days a week selling medical software in Dallas. And then I would fly back to St. Louis on the weekends. That was my home base anyways. And pretend like I worked at the store. To be on the show. Right. Like it was just like a fun experience. They didn't pay me or anything.

You know, I love the store. I love shopping resale. And so it was kind of like an organic fit but i i didn't work there that was just like a fun thing that was your kind of start in oh my gosh is this a clip that's a great photo of me thank you for choosing that what's a yes to the dress no that's the resale i mean megan looking at old photos of me from tv is is maybe the worst exercise oh my gosh oh yeah this is you from say yes to the dress yes and then that was for your that was for your the wedding that was like you're really shopping for a dress yeah and that's the one i chose but

i ended up not getting it and then um i decided to get it and then i was like you know what no i'm not gonna get it and we were gonna get married in bora bora but then turned out to be this nightmare with like paperwork and stuff and so we didn't get married in bora bora so that dress like really didn't wasn't fitting yeah the the place where we got married which was just in st louis reality tv it's all a lie but like it wasn't a lie. Like I didn't think at the time. It's like it's all the truth. It's like sometimes details

are just you don't need to know everything. Right? I mean, I felt like when I was on The Real Housewives, it was very real. All of it. I don't know.

I mean, I can't speak for everyone else, but my experience was very authentic. Rochelle would know more about your experience. I mean, I can't speak for everyone else, but my experience was very authentic. Rochelle would know more about your experience than I would, but do you, do you, you get a lot of questions about that?

Like, is it real? It's real. But when you say you can't speak for other people, do you feel like other people weren't as authentic as you are? I don't. Or were? I don't know. I don't think so necessarily but i think maybe they might have produced their their stuff because sometimes yeah yeah sure you know

yeah people do that they kind of almost kind of self-edit right right right uh and again i don't watch real housewives but uh i've gotten to know you a little bit or just obviously you've been in the news a lot. And the biggest thing that comes across of you is like, you just seem to be unapologetically yourself and super authentic and just honest with what's going on. I think people find that really refreshing. Thanks. I appreciate that. But you kind of, that's how you were on the Real Housewives. I was. And that's why I probably like why I'm saying

that my experience was very authentic. I really don't know how to do an authentic. So that's kind of makes it easy for me. Yeah. You either like me or you don't like, I can't really fake it either way, but yeah. So that's probably why I really enjoyed like doing the Housewives as much as I did

because it just was easy. How many seasons were it? Three. Yeah, three. Yeah, I was on three. And she like detailed your fertility stuff where you like showed yourself like. Yeah, giving myself injections.

Yeah, that was really interesting to watch. So you were, it wasn't easy to conceive? Well, my husband at the time had a vasectomy, but he had frozen sperm. And so the only way for me to get pregnant with that was to do IVF. So I went through this IVF journey. Because he had thought he was done, right?

Yeah. Having kids. Did he have kids before? Yeah, four. Four children before kids. Did he have kids before? Yeah, four. Four children before ours. And you have three now. Yeah, so he has seven. Oh, wow.

Mm-hmm. So you did the same with the twins then? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I know. It was a lot. But it was kind of weird. Driving up here, I was thinking about how I went through IVF.

And it feels like so long ago. It feels like, yeah, I did it. And it's a part of my experience, my human experience. But also, it feels like a blip. Like, maybe it's just because I'm going through so much right now. Like, the whole IVF thing is like, oh, yeah, that happened. Like, it's no big deal. Whereas for, I think, most people, it it's no big deal. Whereas for I think most people,

it's a huge defining moment. Yeah. But I think that's in life. A lot of times we don't do stuff because we think it's going to be so hard or take up so much time. And then it's like, it's over fast. And then you, yeah. Everything's relative.

Definitely. And then obviously the more you have going on, obviously it makes other things in the past like seem at least a distant memory because there's just so much you're dealing with. I mean, and with you, all the things that you're dealing with right now, I mean, a lot of people listening, I'm sure can relate

to obviously just having stresses in their life. I mean, do you find that you're doing certain things to keep yourself active? I mean, a lot of people are get divorced right a lot of we yeah we have callers every day at our ethnic episodes of like being single moms like what are things that you're doing to kind of keep on going and dealing with the ups and the downs of all the things that kind of go with it um i'm trying to, so I guess first and foremost, focus on my kids and trying to be present in the moment with them, which is so hard because they're so little and needy and I really

can't do anything else when I'm with them. But like, if I'm having to respond to an email or something, it's hard to come back to myself and say, no, like, just give your kids this attention. The email can wait kind of thing. Because working from home, I think, is next to impossible, especially with three little kids running around. But so that's been important for me. But then also trying to actually deal with my emotions because there's so many distractions in my life right now with, like, the new podcast that we're doing. My son is in therapy, physical therapy right now. I'm going through a divorce and it's so easy to stay distracted. But I have to try to force myself to deal with the emotions. And if I'm feeling anger or sadness or pain or basically just allow myself to feel the trauma

and all the feels because I think that by denying myself those feelings, I'm either A, going to miss out on a self growth opportunity if I'm not like learning from that or asking myself why I'm feeling this way. And second of all, I really think that by bottling up emotions we make ourselves sick and i need to release that that's that's people do that a lot but that's a lot of work to release those emotions you seem so good at it though i feel like people thanks well would think that, again, being that honest and vulnerable person to just kind of get it out. I mean, I'm not going to like release anger and sadness necessarily like on an Instagram video.

But I think there's certain things that probably should you just go through life. You just go through life and, you know, sometimes I literally go up to my rooftop and I'll just get some fresh air and I will like cry or just say I'm angry at this. But then I always try to like wrap it up with I'm thankful for this because I really do. I do have a wonderful life full of joy and I really want to focus on that but without denying myself the like the human egotistical emotions that i feel like um i'm angry about xyz or you know whatever that might be but yeah that's that's like such a vulnerable moment i'm not gonna post that on social media but i do it i'll talk about it yeah do you get when people um come up to you or recognize you? I mean, what are some of the, do you get a lot of women who thank you for being so open and honest and kind of like

sharing your story? Because I just feel like we don't, we don't see that a lot, especially like, you know, sometimes even with women, you know, they're like always be polite, be proper. Don't, you know, guys when they're younger will be polite, be proper. Guys when they're younger will, especially with their buddies, talk about all the things they're doing and it's just like cool or whatever. Girls aren't supposed to do that because they don't wanna be judged or anything like that.

And yet you've been so open and honest about sharing your stories and I gotta assume a lot of women find that refreshing. Yeah, and they do. And so, yeah, when people come up to assume a lot of women find that refreshing. Yeah. And they do. And so yeah, when people come up to me a lot of times and even in my DMS, they'll say, thank you for sharing or they'll come up to me in person and say, thank you for sharing. You've inspired me. And that inspires me because I'm just being myself and just to, to be able to inspire other women by being myself is so freaking cool. And also a little bit sad because I think that we all should be able to feel who we are and just be who we are.

But it's not that easy. No. Well, because it's not that easy because I think, you know, every time you're honest about something, whether you're a public figure or you're not, there's always someone who's going to be critical or judgmental or have an opinion. Every time. Every time I like am honest about something that is not really that talked about, I just want to like crawl into like a little hole and curl up in a ball and disappear. I get so scared. And then it's like i peek out and nothing's happening like everything is such a bigger deal to me than it is to anybody else

it's very true i mean it's interesting because a lot of people don't have that awareness to say that the people i've met who uh you know the public guy public eye or even the new bachelor contestant honestly though truly that's kind of everyone everyone I mean everything's relative I don't care if you were

on the bachelor or on the public eye or on Real Housewives everyone kind of just feels like their world is the most important yeah and so

you know it's not common for people to just you know have that awareness to be like, honestly, I just like nobody.

No one cares about me. And I, and sometimes again, when I give advice to people, it sounds like the best. Sometimes the advice I give to people is no one cares about you. Nobody. And I say that because no one cares about me,

you know? And like when, and it's not, it's, I'm only hurting your ego when i say that but in reality it's kind of refreshing because i know think about all the things that we panic about it's freedom we all we all worry about what people think of us or oh god are they gonna think that and they're gonna think this and if also i do no one care that'd be so nice everybody else is doing it too

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mbarkvet.com and use promo code v i a l l to save would you ever do uh go back on real housewives i know you were on this past season for an episode on the train i did i did and you know what i was annoyed by that because i love theme parties and I dressed up like a train conductor. You dressed up and I loved your hat. Nobody else did. Why were you annoyed? That was the one episode they didn't dress up. No, we know.

We went on a train. It was like a train party. Sure. We were on Amtrak. They had this stupid comment that someone was pulling a train, which was the dumb, you know. Like a sex thing. A sex thing.

Have you heard of that? Pulling a train? No. It's not a thing. Do you think it's a thing? I don't know have you heard of that pulling a train no it's not a thing do you think it's a i don't know yeah i don't know i don't know but so they went on a train you know and you were a conductor yeah so i dressed up like a conductor and nobody else did and so yeah a bit of what i don't care it was fun and yeah i loved going back for that and kind of hanging out with the girls again but i i saw there was a lot of drama that night and it reminded me that i don't need to be a part of the trauma but it was fun i don't know i miss reality tv and i often think about going back but i don't know how that would look because i don't want to look i'm not living in

orange county like i don't know like where it would be logistically well logistically it wouldn't be orange county but maybe beverly hills yeah i wish you could call on beverly hills how's that work can we can we can we come on andy yeah i don't know like they've never had they've never had a housewife switch cities i guess people move people move yeah come on life change i know that's like so i don't know i would think they would want you seem like a big hit on it well thanks i don't know for someone who doesn't watch real housewives i've fully aware of who you are and i'm not fully aware of a lot of the people on that show. Would you go back on reality TV? I mean, I don't have any plans on it,

but I wouldn't say there's no situation when I would never go back on. Did you enjoy it? At times. So not always? Like it wasn't your thing? The Bachelor is different because there's always a focus and that focus is the pressure of having to find love or kind of thing so like it sounds like a lot of pressure you know

and it's just so it's like it's i don't know what it's like to go on real housewives but i'm assuming the general premise is you're kind of going about your life yeah and it's obviously dramatic and stressful at times but if you're not feeling it, you don't have to date, right? And so like going on The Bachelors, it's hard that way because there's a lot of pressure about that specific thing. So it's like, it's mentally taxing and heavy?

Yeah, yes. Yeah, and probably really time consuming as well. Well, I mean, it's different again, also like you stop your life, right? It's not like, it's not like a different again also like you stop your life right it's not like it's not like that is your life that you you basically like stop living your life and go do that thing right yeah so so it is different so now that you are kind of in this transitional period in your life right now you're single you're uh you have young kids what's that like

for you i mean there does it make you nervous, excited, all of the above? Are you out there dating? Are you going to take a time out? I mean, I've asked you like five questions before you answered any, but like, where are you at? Like, what can people expect from Megan

and her love life going forward? I don't know. I don't know. So right now, i'm i'm um yes i'm scared and i'm i'm anxious to see kind of where everything's gonna go my the custody's in the air the divorce is in the air that everything's in the air and while i'm trying to really pursue my career more than ever because i just launched a podcast with brooke bur Lila DeVille called Intimate Knowledge. And so I put a lot of energy into that. And it's kind of scary to start a new project right as my life is in this massive transition. And so I'm really just

pouring my energy into my kids and my job while I transition through this like energetically weird space in my life but as far as dating goes I'm not seeking it out but like I wouldn't say no if it hit me I'm just trying to go with the flow and I'm just trying to like be in the moment and so yeah, yeah. Do you find that you, a lot of your friends are trying to set you up with stuff? No. You're not. Does that bother you? I don't, I never thought about that until you just asked me.

So thanks. Yeah, it does bother me. What, why, why don't they want to set me up? No, I'm kidding.

No, no. I, what I've noticed is that my female single friends like to be set up and will be bothered if their friends don't and i feel like a lot of guys and myself included i being set up gives me anxiety yeah no i think it gives me anxiety too because i'm thinking about it what if my girlfriend called me and said hey i want to hook you up this purse i don't know there's a lot of pressure that. Can't we just hang out as a group

and nobody talks about being set up? Yeah. Well, I don't know, but as a guy- Does that happen? Like, I don't even know how this works. Dating. How long are you married for? Five years.

Okay. So you haven't been out of the game that long. How long were you dating before you got married? A year and a half. Okay. So like six, you've been out of the game for almost seven- But I'm a relationship person. I'm like always in a half. Okay, so like six, you've been out of the game for almost seven. But I'm a relationship person. I'm like always in a relationship.

But maybe we need to not be for a minute. Maybe you're right. You know? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Well, that's why I got to learn about dating. Yeah. Yeah.

So what do you feel like you need to learn? Like do you go out in a group? Do you go on dates? How do you meet people? Actually, we were just talking about this on my podcast the other day how do you meet people you can meet people all different ways right you can get set up you can go on dating apps do you think you could ever go on a dating app yeah yeah i mean that's you seem uh very open obviously in a lot of different ways but you you don't say no to a lot of things and i mean that in a great way where like a lot of different ways, but you don't say no to a lot of things. And I mean that in a great way

where like a lot of people, especially as we get older, we get comfortable and we get closed off. You know, a lot of people are like, do we get on dating apps? No, I don't believe in that. Like there's a belief system that goes in the dating apps.

You know? Like a religion. Yeah, but you seem so kind of open about it. So yeah, you can go on a dating app. You can get set up by friends. You could go to the grocery store. You can go to game night same grocery store yeah everyone says grocery store or coffee shop that's everyone's dream have you met anyone at a grocery store i'm sure i have

i don't remember the last time like you've gone on it like you met somebody at a grocery store and then went on a date with that person i don't know if i have i'm trying to think i met a guy so this is so funny i met a guy in a grocery store recently like a married guy like not a romantic thing but like it happened I was with my how did you meet him

so I was with my son and he was like carrying his baby like in a little holder so you're you're just with child he's with child yeah

and the kids liked each other like the kids were like oh we're using the kids alright smart but no it wasn't a dating thing like this guy was married it wasn't romantic how do you know i saw his ring i look okay uh was there a friendly banter i mean like we talked about chocolate chips in the baking section

but that was it i mean it was just very friendly you looked for the ring i did okay so he was married so let's assume in the scenario okay he doesn't have a ring was he a handsome guy yeah you looked for a reason you looked because you were curious right i was curious and had he not had a wedding ring on do you think you would have had the courage to no make yourself available no i don't think so okay also he had a baby and that's as hypocritical at the risk of sounding extremely hypocritical i'm not really into dating a guy with kids interesting but also there's a flip side to it okay why um and that's totally fine there's nothing wrong with like so okay there's two sides to it. You get three of your own.

Right. I mean, I love kids and I loved being a stepmom, but I don't know. I feel, I don't know. It's just like a lot of baggage. Gut feeling. Oh, baggage. No, it's bad. And I hate to call kids baggage, but it's just like i mean kids are lifelong commitment and you didn't

have any input into like creating this child and it's just hard i've been a stepmom it's difficult so yeah so like he didn't have any like this this guy this imaginary new boyfriend okay he didn't have you're saying he didn't have any input so it's like no no i'm saying like i wouldn't like if i were to go into that relationship and then you know be kind of like a stepmom or you know that kind of idea it's hard i know it's hard and i'm but on the flip side a man with children understands what i'm going through because he has children do you think it would matter if this guy, like in this particular Grishner scenario, he had a kid.

Right. Would you be more willing to date a guy who, like, well, no, you said you want a guy, a single guy, but yeah. Well, we saw in Orange County the struggle with the stepkids that was difficult.

It was. Yeah. Do you still talk to them or no no that's hard i know you got close with them and then not so much now i mean we're in a tumultuous time so you know time will tell what happens but um but yeah i mean like the and then and then there's the the thought of if you go or if I were to go into a relationship with a guy with kids, would I want the kid to be little or older? I mean, this is assuming that I have any decision-making power in this respect at all. I'm just going to create an avatar and they're going to pop up.

Oh, boy. But it's good to ask ourselves these questions. I think the answer is I don't know what the F I want. Okay. That's fine. But I know. But you're open to it. I mean, I know the values that I'm looking for, but I don't know.

What are the values? Well, loyalty. Okay. We have some guys listen to this podcast. You never know. they might be out there being like yep loyalty check your dms or what else we got loyalty all right uh oh they're sliding in too it is it is oh my god season they coming in hot oh they are they are let's get to that let's first talk about megan megan's list loyalty loyalty um i would say solid family upbringing a solid family

solid upbringing okay um career like solid career i want somebody who works like i don't want any kind of like seems reasonable yeah well i don't want like a trust fund person well you can have a trust fund that's totally fine with me but you need, but you also need to work. Sure. Honestly, there's not a lot of trust fund people out there. And so unless you're shopping in a specific store, I don't think you have to worry about that. Okay. Okay. Right? What is that like?

I feel like I meet a lot of people that are still living off their parents. Yes, it's a lay. Not okay. Not okay. But we, it's not a very relatable problem no i mean i don't have a trust fund but um i don't want an athlete um professional college is fine but he could have been athletic that's fine yes but not like that i don't want that to have been how you made your living yeah um been there done that okay what else um i feel like you're describing nick oh well nick uh is that why you're asking nick are you checking off the boxes in your mind what do you want me to

say here i was thought maybe we our audience members uh or our people listening might be well you haven't slid into my dms i can vouch for that i have i have not uh let's talk about your dms are hot right now what are we looking i don't know i wouldn't go so far as to say that they're hot but the dms are hot the dms are hot yeah they're coming they're coming in hot they are it's so funny it's a wide variety uh i don't yeah i think so like there's literally people asking for me to go out in boston and san francisco they're so these are honest attempts these are like hey you're nice will you go out with me these aren't like just dick pics i haven't gotten any no dick pics no wow what gentleman she's a mother yes are you offended that you have not gotten any god no oh i don't know i i feel like you

always hear from girls you just always get these i can't wait to get a dick pic so i can send a dick pic back uh have you responded to any no i haven't even allowed them into my no sure yeah you can see them i can see them yeah yeah and then i'll like look at them have that yeah have any of them intrigued you have you thought have you remotely thought i've been like no he's kind of handsome no i have not no one no not one that's how it's going usually you know but like i can't see much and then i don't want to follow them they have private accounts not always not always but like i don't know blows my mind you someone slides into a dm and they're like hi and they have a private account and they have all their like

their little tiny avatar it's just like right let's say like again i'm not saying that i want people i'm not saying i want people to be sliding and i'm like relying on that but to your point like if you're gonna shoot your shot go ahead and shoot it, shooter. Right. I'm going to reply back, hi, to basically a total, I don't even know if this is a real person. And then I'll get some that are like, hi, with hearts or something. Well, what do I do with that? But some are like real attempts.

Hey, I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I would love to be there for you. Would you like to get lunch sometime? I would love to be there for you is kind of a weird thing to say for a guy. The whole thing is weird. Yeah, I mean, sliding into someone's DM is fine. Like, keep it simple.

Knowing, sliding into your DM and then admitting to you that they know a lot about your story and want to be there for you is a little much. I know, it feels almost like violating. Yeah, a little bit, right? Like they know too much or they're more fans than like potential like suitors.

You know, we need a guy who like slides into your DM who's just like- Normal. His page is public it seems normal uh he makes some sort of witty comment on one of your photos that makes you chuckle yeah but then you have to find that comment what do you mean that's hard to find right no well i have a lot of followers like i don't i don't know like where the comment would be because there's a lot of no no no but he no, no, no. But he would slide into your DM and then like comment.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, okay, okay. Got it, I'm following. Here's the trick. Like bring up Megan's Instagram. Okay. Let's slide into Megan's DM. Okay, let's see how this works.

All right, we're scrolling. We're scrolling. So the first trick is to, well, you have kids in there. So if if i'm a guy i'm avoiding the kids ones because not that it's just like right that's too personal totally i don't need to like you know go there and then i would avoid any like overtly thirst traps like that's like a sexy pic yeah kind of thing okay because that's too obvious because like you know guys you know the the thirst traps there's clear you're getting a bunch of like heart eye emojis and you're so hot yeah and it's yeah too easy yeah thirst which what'd you call a thirst trap okay

right and so there here we go click you click on that's an instagram tv so that's a video there. Keep going. Keep going. Is that a thirst trap? The selfies? No. Okay. I mean, you look very nice, but none of these, you look like you're,

like I've posted, like it's obvious. It's like, hey, I'm feeling hot today. I want to share it with the world. Yeah. We know what this is. And so, all right. So like the Halloween one, or, we know what this is and so all right so like the

halloween one or you know there we go the selfie the selfie one right there very simple it's like you just pick a normal one and then you find something else in the photo and you comment on that i slid on uh um a slid into a girl's dm once and like in the back of her photo there was like a blender of some sort and I was just like hey honest question just like wondering where you found this like it was obviously that it wasn't a question

I made it a joke like one time I made a joke about like hey do you still have your like promo code because it was clearly an ad or something it was like it was that's funny it was obviously that I was like fucking around and like making conversation, but it wasn't

like, oh, you're so hot. Did it work? Yeah. They usually get a response. Yeah. And then where'd it go from there? Nowhere. But it doesn't, you know, I mean.

That's funny though. But like, that's, that's how you, that's how you would, you know, you see an average photo and then you go in for all the guys listening. I'm expecting you to get a, just, yeah, we'll see. It's just like,

in that way, like you might, you probably won't like, it doesn't, that doesn't mean they won't respond, but if they want to respond, then you're, you're,

you're giving them something to work with. Right. Yeah. Because then like you have immediately, they've asked a question. Now you can, now you can answer, you can answer the question.

You can even, maybe there actually is a promo code or maybe you just make something up. Right, yeah. Imagine all the different promo codes you can make up. Yeah, right. I'm excited about your dating life going forward now. Me too. I'm feeling inspired.

So do you get nervous about how, you're saying you're talking on your podcast, but how else to meet people? Does that make you nervous? Like, what am I gonna go out? How am I gonna meet new people? No, I don't don't think so no i don't think it makes me excited that's good that's encouraging yeah i like i love meeting people and i like hanging out and trying new things and so i think it'll be fun do you have a plan about how you would uh date and introduce a

guy with with young kids because i know there's a lot of moms out there who have certain rules or how quickly they want to introduce or even have to dealing with an ex-husband. Is that something that you think about too much? No, yeah, I have thought about it. I don't know how that would look because my oldest kid is only three,

but she remembers people. And like i i kind of feel like she would pick up on whether or not something was romantic and that i think that should be shielded from her until it's it's like you know i know that it it's might be going somewhere or is going until it is going somewhere but um i don't know. Overall, I don't really know what that's going to look like. Because they're so little and their mom is a single mom. And my life is so non-traditional as it is. We fly between St. Louis and LA. And I'm talking to you right now. It's this crazy kind of life. and i'm this now i'm a single mom who's in the dating world and i talk about it so what does that look like for them

i don't know does that make you nervous like being so open and then for my kids no no no the guys yeah really nervous yeah because your podcast is about sex right yeah that part doesn't make me nervous but like the stuff about my life me like when when i became single i literally like looked at my instagram and i thought holy shit this is not a single woman's instagram this is like a married woman's instagram who talks about kids and life and doesn't wear makeup. And that is scary. That's there forever. Why is it scary? I don't know.

I feel like it should be sexy. But it's an expectation I have in my brain. Then I'm like, whatever, I don't care. I don't know, because you are a mom, right? Yeah, it's weird. So you don't want to give off an an impression of like no of being something that you're not right i mean people do that on instagram all the time but in my head a single woman acts and looks a certain way right i think that's like a normal stereotype that probably a lot of yes i appreciate the stereotype it's a stereotype right and so i am not the stereotype and so that is like

my kind of like knee jerk reaction to becoming single. But yeah, you don't want to do that because you'd only end up attracting a bunch of people you wouldn't want to attract. Right. Right. So your podcast, it's out now. Yeah. About sex. Very open. You, Brooke Burke. And then you also have. Lila Deville. Yes. She's a sex therapist.

She's a sex therapist uh-huh she's sex therapist and so you what do you what are you guys talking about in terms of uh all the different kind of you know things that women are kind of open to about sex that you guys weren't talking about before that main you know in a mainstream world that um is more taboo i guess so so a lot basically everything we talk about is just the things that women are already talking about over coffee with their friends but we're talking about so anything from like i think on the next episode we talk about sex toys and erectile dysfunction we've talked about um like porn and um just oh how we connect with our partners and it's how it's not always about sex and and music and i mean just how do how do you women in your group feel about porn because we get a lot of uh people who have a lot of questions and a lot of opinions about porn both on both sides in terms of whether they think it's good or toxic for their

relationships so we haven't really done a super deep dive into it but i would say the general consensus is that or just with your friends like not necessarily porn is is not um the way that women want to have sex like the the porn as we know it, like the stereotypical porn is not how women are into having sex. Totally. And how that kind of can skew a woman's sexual experience with a man

if they are not in tune to the woman's intimate goals. Yeah. And have you over the years feel like when you're like hooking up with a guy, it's just like, he's watched a lot of porn based off how he acts. A billion percent, a billion percent. I've literally talked to the girls about this,

not on the air yet, but yes, it's crazy. It's like, it's, it's totally a thing. You're like, dude,

come on, just turn off the internet have you ever said anything to any guy you've ever i mean i really haven't been with a lot of people like i said i'm i'm a relationship kind of person but even i i mean so out of the three women believe that believe it or not out of three women on the the show i'm totally the most conservative like by far and um yeah so i'm like learning about stuff from Brooke and Lila. Tell me more. What's it like?

But you have dealt with the feeling that way, but you haven't brought it up to the guys. No, no, I don't know. I don't want to embarrass anybody. Yeah. You can't embarrass them.

People are fragile. Men are fragile. Yeah. I'm not trying to hurt any feelings here. Like if I was in a relationship, okay that would definitely you would in a relationship yeah but you don't get that far because you're just like oh stop well leela says that you need to talk about that and talk about you know your needs and and how to redirect i don't i guess i have two thoughts on that

and I've kind of mentioned, I don't think A, men necessarily are as fragile as they're perceived in that department. I also think who cares? Because like for all the men doing that and who are getting it wrong, as you admit, like these girls are going back and they're talking to their friends about it, right?

So, and also there's a different way there's no bringing it up in a mean way that makes you feel judged or just like kind of what well the thing with sex is that talking about it and bringing it up yeah and anybody who is engaging in a sexual experience with another person is there to please each other and each other yes so like you want pleasure they want pleasure and so if one person isn't getting pleasure then it deserves a conversation because that's not the goal of anybody there yeah no i would so so that basically that's kind of like what we explore some i mean a part of what we explore i mean we, we explore everything. Like last episode, we were talking about Valentine's Day dinner.

You know? What about it? So there's this menu that we talked to the chef about. That's kind of an aphrodisiac menu. There's such a thing? That's kind of what we were talking about. Is there such a thing? And apparently there is, but I think it's kind of a we were talking about. Is there such a thing? And apparently there is,

but I think it's kind of a placebo effect. Probably. Which is a thing. Like the placebo effect is a real thing. And it works. I mean, the power of the mind is very, very convincing. Now, as far as like, you know, the podcast and talking about sex,

you even said you feel like you're the most conservative and talking about sex you even said you're one of your more you feel like you're the most conservative but yet you're very open like so are is that something that's very been comfortable for you when you were younger you weren't as comfortable and you've kind of grown and been more open or like where do you kind of fall in line with that and do you see yourself kind of becoming even more open and growing in that department so i'm totally i've always been open um even ever since i was little but i still well things will be brought up on the show and sometimes i'll say oh my gosh i get like what is this what what is this about i have no idea what they're talking about and other times

i'm like oh god i don't know i don't know if i want to talk about this what are the things that you in terms of like i don't know what give don't know if I want to talk about this. What are the things that you, in terms of like, I don't know if I've done. That give you the most anxiety to talk about? Hmm. I don't know. I would have to think about it for a while. What about past relationships?

Have you ever had been in a relationship where the guy wanted to talk about something and you weren't sure how to like, I don't really want, I'm not into that. No, I think i've i think i've been in a lot of relationships with men who um aren't as communicative as as um my goal avatar man is going to be have you what have you done to try to change that in the relationships or did you just kind of like feeling i guess you don't communicate i don't know like try like i've done it all like go you go to therapy or you like

one-on-one dinner talk about things or you know game night or whatever you want to play speaking of games do you want to play a little game yeah let's do it it's called do you know me okay and it's real simple we're gonna guess i. I think I tend to win these. I feel like Rochelle's going to win this one. Oh, because I know her better than you. Yeah. Because of the housewives. Watch the housewives.

So yeah, it's real simple. Okay. I'm going to say, has Megan, did Megan? Okay. Fill in the blank. Don't answer right away. Think to yourself. All right.

And then we are gonna guess who knows megan better got it and some of rachel pick these questions yeah you don't have to do all of them i got a lot in there so let's figure one yeah these are good all right uh and then if you have like a fun anecdotal story you want to share um that reminds you based off the question, feel free. All right. Question number one. Has Megan ever changed a flat tire? Has Megan ever changed a flat tire? I'm going to say definitely not. Because she said she's always in relationships. I feel like there's always someone

she could call to do it. So. Also, I haven't ever. She's a model. What if she tried once? I don't know. What's your answer, Nick? You're probably right. I want to say no.

Okay, say no then. No, I think she, I'm going to say she has. i think she's attempted i think she's someone taught her i what i'm saying is i don't think she's completely dismissed the possibility yeah i mean she's yeah she's very capable i'm gonna say you have just for fun i certainly have not yes and triple a triple a has done it a lot for me have you had a lot of flat tires in college i did yeah you never once tried i it literally never crossed my mind i know i don't either i mean

triple a but like one okay so my roommate in college did know how to change a flat tire and that was kind of i thought oh people can change their own flat tires. So that was kind of cool to think about the possibility. Like you said, Nick, I wouldn't shut down the possibility, but I haven't done it. I guess when it comes to things like that, we've become not necessarily lazier, but, you know, there's literally AAA. There's a bunch of it's like oh well someone else can and triple a is very nice have you changed the flat tire yeah oh i've but if i have surprisingly handy uh that's convenient i have and i can but if i had triple a yeah i'd

call them yeah yeah question number two has megan ever thrown up in public? Look at that face. I feel like college. We're talking about a crazy college experience. Yeah, in college. I don't remember. You're bleeding the face. You know what? I missed out there.

I should have asked her if she blacks out or pukes. Because you're usually one of the two. Are you a blackout or puker? i mean uh i'm a puker i don't i'm a puker yeah i think i've done both okay i've pro i think there's gotta be a time it could be non-alcohol related it could be have you ever like gotten the stomach flu i don't think i feel like you would remember i feel like you would remember. I feel like in college, there's probably a time where I was at a frat house or something and threw up. Probably.

But you don't remember. It's not really college unless you do that. Right. I went to Ole Miss. It's kind of a prerequisite. Yeah. I was going to say. You went to Ole Miss.

Mm-hmm. Oh. Has Megan ever rushed in a sorority? Yeah. She's a queen. You're the oldest? Yeah. She's the queen of her sorority, probably.

I did. I was a kappa kappa gamma. Oh. But only for one year because I tried to go to a dance with another girl and my sorority thought I was a lesbian. Your sorority thought you were a lesbian? And they asked me if I was and I told them that was none of their business. Hell yeah. And so since I wouldn't say if I was a lesbian or not, they basically kicked me out and then I quit.

What? Good for you. I was so upset. I was only 19 years old. Like all I wanted to do was be in my sorority and have fun but i thought it was horrible that they didn't want lesbians i thought that's very good for you to be like you know not to get super defensive and say no well i got super defensive i'm like i'm going to the dance no but you're like you're like good for you defiantly yeah i think

it was it was wrong wow it was wrong old man. It was wrong of them. Ole Miss. Ole Miss. Letting us down. Turns out they've changed. Oh, good. Girls can go to dances now. Okay, well, good for you, Ole Miss. I mean, it's only been, what, a billion years later? Making strides. Maybe.

Well-behaved women rarely make history, right? There you go. Nicely done. Were you the prom queen and stuff? In high school, no. No? No. I went to so many. I went to an all-? In high school, no. No? No, I like went to so many. I went to an all-girl Catholic high school.

Oh. So it's kind of a different situation. Different vibe. Mm-hmm. Mm. Has Megan gotten a tattoo in the past two years? No, do the recent. Six months?

Do you know something I don't know? No, I'm just saying this is a crazy time for her a lot of stuff's happening that's when you make impulsive decisions okay watch i want to know what impulsive decisions i'm gonna say no i'm gonna say no i'm gonna say yes like i'm thinking like a heart like somewhere kind of hidden or something like that no but i so i have one tattoo it's right here and it's a je and um i do want to get it lasered off so that might that might fall into you know you can make that into something else why do you want to get it why do you want to get lasered off well it's it's big my ex's initials and also you didn didn't catch that? No, I'm up for it.

I guess, yeah. I guess I should have picked up. Because it looks nice. When did you get that? I got it in Tahiti right on our honeymoon. Yeah. Oh. I kind of liked it.

It was cool. I was asleep for the whole thing because I passed out. It also doesn't look like a... J.E.? You passed out from the pain? I see it now, but... I don't like needles, so it scared me. I see it now, but I would like needles so it scared me i see it now but i would never have you know like if you didn't yeah if you didn't tell me i wouldn't i would have said

oh what is that tattoo of right that means something yeah i think you can pass it off as something else does he have one of yours no he never got one oh Oh, dick. Whatever. Whatever. It's coming off anyway. Does Megan know who won the last, well, World Series? Throw a softball? Hey. I mean, well. I don't know. I know.

She doesn't. That's funny. That is really cool. do you know do you know NBA championship or Super Bowl nope staying on brand I like it

that's pretty good I know that Houston was in the World Series but I oh I think the Nationals there you go okay oh she pulled through

but okay so then football go with your gut the giants i don't know way off okay the patriot there you go really okay and then basketball no i just felt you were naming off teams and teams you Well, I was trying to, yeah, for real. Well, because Eli Manning went to Ole Miss, and then, so that's why I thought the Giants. And then the Patriots, I remember my sister lived in Boston,

and so I was like, okay, that's a good one. Yeah, they're good. They're a safe bet. Love sports. Has Megan ever lived abroad? Okay, let's think about this. We kind of know everything she's done. I don't.

I'm going to say no. Did she study abroad in college? Did she study abroad in college? I'm going to say yeah, you studied abroad in college. Kind of. Oh, okay. So I took a semester off of college and i tried to model yeah and i lived in milan tried to i modeled i lived in milan and then i hated modeling and i went back to

college why'd you hate modeling it's just like it's a grind and um like everyone would love it no i'm asking her yeah i'm wondering why i thought i would love it it seemed very glamorous you know but like you you did it like no but i want to know why but why didn't she i just felt very used for the way i look yep i don't like the way they talk to you right i don't like any of it and so and i i was i did well in school academically and so i was like i can do this and so i went back to school what'd you major in marketing okay yeah yeah so i went back to school and graduated early. I was really focused after that, you know, because I kind of learned that I need to use my brain in life.

So you're a little brainiac. A little bit, yeah. A little bit. You graduated early after taking a semester off? Well, I guess on time then. That's still impressive. So semester, yeah. That took five years.

Did you? I did. Did you get a master's? I was a double major. Oh, okay. That took five years. Did you? I did. Did you get a master's? I was a double major. Oh, okay. But still, I still took my time. You took your time. I mean, I can see how you can take your time, for sure.

I mean, yeah, but still very impressive. Thanks. Has Megan bought or received flowers this month? Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. bought or received flowers this month? Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Maybe like a congratulatory flowers on her podcast?

For her podcast. I'm going to say yes. Friend, maybe. I think she gets flowers a lot from just people. I'm going to say no. I have. Yes! I'm killing it. From my oh I know she just got me just because flowers literally wrote me a card and said just because she's a live-in nanny and she's been

really busting her butt and saving me from just like spiraling into like yeah into just chaos because I have so much happening and she got me flowers just for the heck of it sweet and that really still works for the women out there sure does flowers I don't know guys

why doesn't that work for guys does it it doesn't getting flowers for guys? Does it? It doesn't? Getting flowers? You don't like getting flowers? Well, my love language is definitely not gifts. Yeah. So maybe that's just a me thing. Maybe.

But, you know. My brother likes flowers. He likes getting flowers. He's gay though. I don't know if that makes a difference. I don't know. I'm serious. I don't know.

Maybe it does. I don't know. I think serious. I don't know. Maybe it does. I don't know. I think some guys would appreciate the gesture. Because it really is just about the thought, right? Right. Yeah. Like that you just that you're being thought of. Yeah.

Last question. Did Megan ever have an imaginary friend? This is a great question. I feel like you could have. She has a brother that she's close with. Yeah, I think she did. I mean, like when you were six or something. Yeah, I did.

I did. Aw. There are two. I had two? Mm-hmm. Do you remember their names? Yeah, I kind of do. They were like really long, ridiculous names,

like Esmeralda kind of thing. do there were like really long ridiculous names like esmeralda kind of thing and i i think i was inspired by um is it sleeping beauty where there's the fairies oh yeah i think it was something something like that yeah yeah something like that that's cute have you have you straight i have a big imagination yeah do you strike me as someone who in life, do you ever feel like you've been misunderstood? I don't know. Do you think if I, do I strike you like that? Well, I say, I mean, it's a compliment.

I sometimes do. You're, you're obviously very smart and you're a thinker and you're tall and beautiful. And then like people like, well, it's easy to like make snap judgments at certain people. You have kind of like layers to you and different parts of you. So I wonder if people are quick to label you one way where you feel like you're might be,

they don't see other aspects of you that you would like them to see. So yes, yeah, I do. Like even with my friends have said to me something like a new friend has, friends have said to me, well, Oh, your group of friends is different than what I thought.

And I'm like, well, what did you think my group of friends? Well, they thought my group of friends would be like, have all designer clothes and wear fancy shoes and, you know, be perfectly done up where in reality they're all ages from, you know, like 20 to 60 and some wear makeup, some are fancy, some aren't, and they're just everything.

box that I'm a more dynamic than that but I don't feel misunderstood that I can't that that I can't break out of that sure that role but just misunderstood that that's right I mean more like that like where I feel like throughout your life people would make quick judgments that you'd be like well no not not necessarily the friends thing being a perfect example where people would put you as a certain stereotype and certain things and you'd be like well um no and this and right and yeah yeah i don't know yeah no definitely and then and then um i've gotten i i love i'm very girly and i like to to like gossip about pop culture and fun things and be silly and and vapid at. And so I guess because of that, sometimes I get placed in a box of being not very smart.

And actually, I kind of like that because I like to surprise people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I shouldn't say I like it, but it's fun for me because I'm like, oh, well, let's talk about this. It just shows that you're very confident with the fact that you are.

I'd say so. I'm comfortable with who I am. Well, it's like you know that you are smart. You don't need someone to say it. You don't need someone to say it. Right. So some people you meet where it's like, no one thinks I'm smart and it really bothers me.

Well, either A, they don't. Then be smarter. Well, or they don't believe that they are, right? They actually do question. Or say, let's say someone who's struggling with their weight. If someone were to make a comment about their weight, that might bother them as opposed to someone who's not self-conscious about it.

It just says that you're not self-conscious about that and that comes across. Speaking of gossip before we go, do you have any thoughts on the new season of Orange County or Beverly Hills? Are you keeping up

with any of that stuff? No, I really don't. I really don't. Because I mean, people are getting the chop. They say Vicky's getting the chop. Okay, so I've heard that there's rumors,

but there's always rumors. Every year there's rumors. How does it work? Like when do they ask you back? When do you know you're not making the cut? I think, okay, what are we? I feel like they probably know right now, but it's January.

It's January, the middle of January. So I feel like they probably already know. They might even be filming right now, but they also make decisions going into filming. I mean, they can cut at halfway out through the season yeah or they could if they're they feel like it's not rolling smoothly they could always add somebody in early on they do that yeah do you think that vicky like they just don't want to deal with her anymore or i mean i don't want to deal with her ever so okay i mean she's just a hard personality i don't think she would even be offended if i said that

because we just i don't dislike her we just don't mesh right and she's not always the easiest person to work with um with with the housewives but um i mean i feel like that's a lot of people so i don't know but i mean for someone who doesn't watch the show I'm assuming that's what makes the show great Right but I think they're like If everyone was super chill And accommodating I don't think it'd be fun to watch No no so like

You know Be careful what you wish for Like every episode Oh you're just so sweet Well they would always say Like the fans would always say about me, I'm super boring. And I'm like, that is such a compliment because they're saying I'm normal.

But then I'm like, Oh, where's my job security? You know, there is. Yeah. Did you leave or what? I left.

Yeah. But I mean that cancer plot line, that was a great plot line. She was the detective that figured out Brooks. You had the receipts. You had, you know, research. Who's faking cancer? Who's faking cancer? Fucked up. Big time. You found that? was the detective that figured out brooks you had the receipts you had you know research cancer

who's faking cancer was faking cancer fucked up big time found that yeah well i like there was questions in my head and then i i did i sussed it out and i was right yeah do you think vicky knew yeah yeah for sure she was in on it. Yeah. Oh. What was the motive? So that season, she was pushing some kind of juice. So I think, now this is all purely speculation, but I think that had everything gone as planned, this juice might have cured his cancer or something. Oh.

Oh. Also, just money. That's criminal. That's literally that's what well so i struggled with it so that you think you you think that they were developing this storyline that he was going to say this is the reason why i'm i don't okay so i don't think that vicky necessarily started that storyline i think she found out and she was like in deep and just like went along with it at that point but yeah i definitely think that that that happened and um my thing was this guy is going to promote something to a national audience that isn't real and i really struggled with that with the well i mean ethics that go along with that totally hell yeah good for you i mean that's fucked if that is in fact the motive,

that's, I mean, think of all the people. I mean, again, think knock on wood. Stop their chemo for juice. Well,

not only, not only stop, but like the, like the false hope that could come. Yeah. I mean, people are literally going to try anything, right?

Yeah. Of course. Oh my God. Sickening. I mean, that's one thing. If like, if juice,

juice cures you, but it's another thing that when you have an investment in the company in the juice that cures you yeah

well it kind of sounds like the FDA good for you for for sussing it out well it's been an absolute pleasure

getting to know you and having you on where can people find you? You can find me at Megan K. Edmonds for now. For now. Maybe Megan. That's right. Check back, see if we get it.

And then obviously your new podcast. Yes, the new podcast, Intimate Knowledge. You can find it on Instagram at Intimate Knowledge Podcast. And slide into the dms for intimate knowledge and for me and for you guys single men guys but also light on you know be creative be creative don't just say hi and weird and don't tell megan you're gonna like save her i'm gonna screenshot every last one and send it to you and And then, then we'll see what Nick has to say. Okay.

Just keep it simple. It's so weird to be like, I wish I could be there for you. Oh, like, that is so weird. Why don't you just like buy me an ice cream or something? Yeah.

Right. Well, it's been an absolute pleasure. I really, really appreciate it. And yeah, you can check out all new conversations about sex and all the things

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