The Viall Files - E876 - Heidi Montag & Spencer Pratt, Olivia Holt, Rachael Speaks, Bachelor Grant’s Music & 6min Voice Memos

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Today we are joined by The One… The Only… Global Pop Music Superstar Heidi Montag and her number one supporter Spencer Pratt! They drop a new remix of “I’ll Do It” with Pitbull LIVE ON AIR, discuss their experience with the fires, and more! Also, Olivia Holt joins us for a game of Reality TV Would You Rather. You do not want to miss!  “Hi, this is Heidi Montag and you’re listening to my new exclusive track!” Watch/stream Heidi’s single “I’ll Do It” over and over and over at the links below! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3RpCFxfsccNPDTWd3ALMaB?si=41c1b2f1665748dc Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/ill-do-it/348940801?i=348940815 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37tJCV4Vma4  Shop Superficial Merch and More At: https://prattdaddy.com Watch the trailer for Olivia Holt’s new movie, Heart Eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cRzZcMlJh8  OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [e-mail] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles  THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Brooklinen - Shop award-winners and fan-faves in-store or online at https://brooklinen.com Get 15% off your first order today! Helix Sleep - Through February 2nd, Helix is offering 20% off sitewide plus 2 FREE Dream Pillows with all mattress orders! Go to https://helixsleep.com/viall  Robinhood - The new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at https://robinhood.com/gold  Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (00:48) - Household Headlines (30:57) - Daily Dilemma (36:52) - Oliva Joins (53:47) - Would You Rather? Reality TV Edition (01:07:21) - Heidi and Spencer Join (02:00:30) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @olivia_holt @spencerpratt @heidimontag @ciaracrobinson@justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell   

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What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host Nick and I hope everyone's having a really great Thursday. Yeah, that's how I want to start. Well, I also just want to start by thanking everyone for their well wishes that they sent Nellie and I. Obviously we dropped that very personal episode about the miscarriage Nellie experienced not too long ago. So I just wanna say thank you. I've been pretty much staying offline,

but I know Nellie's got a lot of nice lovely messages. And if you sent me something, I appreciate it. I'm trying not to read anything. Grant Ellis is, I did not know is in the music biz. Did any of you know? Did he? I feel like that was his whole bit was like that he- Did he talk about that when we were here?

A rapper on Jen's? A rapper, yeah. Wasn't that his whole bit was like that he, did he talk about that when we were here? A rapper on Gens? A rapper, yeah. Wasn't that his whole thing? He did beatbox for us. Yeah, he did. And he was quite good. I just thought that was like a, hey, like party trick.

Well, we did see in the previews for this season that he was gonna be singing and playing piano and stuff. No, no, again, talent, yeah, but. Yeah, we just thought it was like a hobby. Yeah, I just, yeah. Like, oh, I found out one day I could beatbox, so now that's what I bust out of my party trick. We didn we just thought it was like a hobby. Yeah, I just, yeah. Like, oh, I found out one day I could beatbox, so now that's what I bust out of my party trick. We didn't know that it was like, oh, you are an artist.

Now, I'm hearing that, I'm not surprised, but is Bachelor Nation coming for him? It seems so. What are they saying? Not here for the right reasons. Oh, God, God forbid. I mean. I just wanna say, if someone needs to be the president and founder of the grant

Alice musical fan club, I will carry that mantle. I'll be VP. Okay, you're gonna go Spencer Pratt on it. Yeah. You know, should I should I just start making threats to people? Yeah, we can't pass Heidi. Yeah, we can only do number two. Yeah, I'll be like, guys, I don't want to pass Heidi. She needs a new house. Trying to make this the number two.

We're trying to make this the number two song on Spotify and all the billboards. It's a good song too. It is a good song. It's called Party Girl. Oh my God, it's so good. I want to listen to this at the club. It's so good. I want to go to the club. Can we put this on? I don't have TikTok on my phone anymore. I can work that out for you. My team has access to the TikTok that I don't. I can't get on my own TikTok. I lost access to mine as well.

So if they post any weird shit, guys, I was definitely hacked. I did find a solution to this, by the way. Really? We buy Sierra a new phone and then you can have Sierra's old phone for TikTok. I don't want, I mean, I'm actually quite pleased. I don't need to be on that shit.

It's great. I just find it to be a little like, well, what if I want to? I'm not mad at Justin trying to get me a new phone though. Oh yeah. It's a thing. People are buying old phones right now. That's fucking crazy.

I know, they're selling them for like $50,000 or something. It's giving Flappy Bird craze. To be able to be on TikTok for an extra 73 days? I guess. Is that why? T minus, yeah. 50,000 for 73 days is crazy. That's crazy.

Addiction. That's insane. It's real. It's even more insane than Bachelor Nation not wanting to support an up and coming artist. It's so weird. Guys, they casted an influencer. They casted many influencers.

Yeah, they're all influencers. They're all influencers. Every one of their bio was like, I wanna be famous, is basically what all of them said. How dare you go on TV and not wanna be famous? Didn't one of them want a New York billboard? A Times Square billboard? Yeah, Chloe wants to be in Times Square.

She's not even hiding it. And she should be. But also, the fact of the matter is he came on the show as a contestant and didn't release any songs while he was a contestant. So let him as the Bachelor release his song. Yeah.

He definitely got it talking to, I'm guessing from the producers for sure. Let the man live, express himself through art. Listen, I would be just as pissed as Bachelor Nation if it sucked. Like if it was a shitty song, I'd be like, are you for real? Like you're trying to promote this shitty ass song. No.

It's not good. No, I would be like, come on for real. Like you're trying to promote this shitty ass song. It's not good. No, I would be like, come on, for real. But because it's so good, it's like. I wouldn't, you would be mad. I would be, I would, I would be. I would roll my eyes a lot. I would be disappointed in Grant for the lack of self-awareness

for him to like put himself on blast for not dropping an absolute hit. But it's a smash. I wonder what the pop star Heidi Montag thinks about it. We will find out later this episode because Heidi and Spencer will be in studio. Finally we get to talk to the icons that are Heidi and Spencer.

I, and truly again, I love this couple. I love the story. I love the way they're writing for each other. Wait, so has Grant said anything about people hating on him? Or is he just like? Probably not. He's kind of like not allowed to speak

for himself publicly. Oh, he's got a muzzle on him? Or is he just like? Probably not. He's kind of like, not allowed to speak for himself publicly. Oh, he's got a muzzle on. Probably. I don't know, like maybe, he's already gone rogue. So, where is it charting at all? I don't know, let me check. But don't worry, Nick texted him

or some other Grant we don't know. Grant, no last name, and Nick's phone received a text message. I'm not good at saving numbers, and I did get a new phone, so like usually I refer to like, I go to received a text message. I'm not good at saving numbers, and I didn't get a new phone. So usually I go to the text threads. There have been people who have texted me this morning, given obviously the news that we dropped yesterday.

Some people I'm like, no idea who this is. And I just respond back with a heart. I like the idea that you might've texted your old accountant or something, just like, love the song, loved the episode. I said, love the episode, love the song, with a music emoji, didn't say it was from Nick. Your accountant's like, oh my God,

you listen to my SoundCloud? Nick Vile listens to my SoundCloud? It could be a grant from 20 years ago. It really could be. The song, and I know that Spotify takes a few days to update accurately, but as of when it was released, it has 8,914 plays on Spotify. Get those numbers up.

Only 8,000? And I'm probably 25 of those. Only 8,000. He's an indie artist. I feel like that was probably before he released it, before the episode, right? Guys, that's an absolute banger. Yeah.

It looks like he released it the night of the premiere, and then the same day there's a Rolling Stones headline that says the new Bachelor says he's open to therapy since filming the reality show. What does that have to do with his smash hit? A musician who would go to therapy, that's actually news. Yeah, that's hot.

He's healthy. We need to talk about that. Wow. Well, I just, I mean, I'll never understand the internet trolls. If you are trolling online, you need therapy. Yeah, like let people enjoy their lives. Anyways, Team Grant, like let's make sure

we're writing for this song, let's make sure we're dancing to this song on all platforms. Playing it on Spotify right now on Silent As We Speak. Is it on, can we upload it to TikTok and Instagram? Can we do that? Can we be the first one who tries to get this music going? Original audio and then it shows your face. Yeah, Grant's probably gonna be like,

wait a second. How do you do that? We can do an original audio. He might've already uploaded it, I don't know. We have to make a viral dance or like moment and then use his audio and then just have like that. Has he loaded it or has his handlers already gotten their claws into him?

Oh, it's on there. You can take a minute. On the reel? Yeah. Oh my God, I know what I'm doing later today. Hell yeah. Mm, mm, mm. Okay, filming a TikTok on my phone.

Do you think Meryl Streep would listen to Grant Ellis' song? If she has taste. That's so, well, Meryl does famously have taste. She does. You know what else happened to her? Tell me, Mary. Well, she was forced to cut a car-sized hole in her fence to flee LA wildfires.

What is her fence made of? What did she use to cut it? Wire cutters, this big old- She has a wire fence. Really? She went to her neighbors, and I guess it's the fence. She has wire cutters? Yeah, so basically, Abe Streep, her nephew, spoke out to New York Magazine saying, My Aunt Meryl Streep received an order to evacuate on January 8th, but when she tried to leave,

she discovered that a large tree had fallen over her driveway, blocking her only exit. Determined to make it out, she borrowed wire cutters from a neighbor, cut a car-sized hole in the fence she shared with the neighbors on the other side, and drove through the yard to escape. That's what she learned on set of Mamma Mia while running that hotel. What an iconic line, my Aunt Meryl Streep, right? Where was Martin Short? Has one sentence there. He's probably running shotgun,

being like, hurry Meryl! You missed one! Yeah. So the car size hole for Martin was a bus size hole. I'm just more shocked that she has a wire fence. She said it was the fence she shares with her neighbors. Maybe it was her neighbor's fence. I'm not doubting Meryl.

I just wanna see this fence fence also the wire cutters I'll reach out to Merrill shall we jump into the mat and Rachel Vidal? Sure, what did she say? Leah? Do you want to go for it our historian? Yes. Okay, so Rachel and Matt break up. It's devastating. But what happened is even more devastating Basically, they are food bloggers, as we know, I watch all their videos. Is she also a food blogger? Or is she planning on to continue to food blog? Are they now competing food bloggers? She's involved in the content. I mean, so what happened was she was looking for a restaurant to go to, and it didn't live up to

expectations. She was stressed about it. Anyway, it blows over, they get over it. The next day she felt like he was annoyed with her. So she asked, are you annoyed at me? And then it kind of snowballed into a conversation about how she doesn't have qualities that he wants in a wife. He's not sure if he'll ever propose to her. Basically doesn't want to waste more time of hers.

Then he breaks up with her as she is getting on a plane. When you say as she's getting on a plane, like he dropped her off at the airport and said, by the way, we're broken up or? I believe this all happened while they were on the trip to Japan. So maybe I think they're getting on separate flights. What's crazy is that she, uh, he goes Instagram official while she's on this flight.

Some of her friends and family members found out about the breakup while she was on this flight. Anyway, I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, it definitely lacks tact. After four years, this would be a very frustrating way to be broken up with. And I'm sorry, but like saying, I don't want to waste your time after four years of... I'll say this in slight defensive, Matt. It's just like, listen, there's no good way of breaking up with someone. You're always going to be the bad guy.

People are allowed to like not have feelings. Like clearly, the per Rachel's version of the story, it lacks tact and sensitivity and empathy and care. And it definitely gives Rachel every reason to be angry and hate Matt, for sure. I do always say, like when you break up with someone, sometimes the most selfless thing, I don't think Matt was trying to be selfless. I think he was being selfish and like he didn't know what to say. So he just did it this way. But like when you break up with someone, if you give them a lot of reasons to hate you early on it's definitely easy for them To move on I don't think Matt deserves any medals for this

But like have you ever heard of someone breaking someone's heart and they go yeah, they did it in a really great way That was really that was awesome. Wow, you deserve a medal for the way you sensitively broke up with me No, like the nicer the things that you're saying like no Yeah, you're an amazing person you deserve the world and I that you're saying. Know your differences. You're an amazing person, you deserve the world, it's just not with me. And I love you so much, and you'll always be in my heart, and I'll always care for you, and I'll always love you. Then why are we breaking up?

Then I'm gonna jump out a window. It sounds like you love me. So there's just no good way, and yeah, I mean, the fact that he posted while she was in a plane is wild behavior, for sure. But he's definitely cutting the cord. He said, this is what I said. And in case you didn't know, now your whole family does.

Definitely lacking tact and sensitivity, but you know, I don't know. Not evil. He didn't commit a crime. Setting her up for bigger and better. Also, she says that a few days before they were talking about how he feels so lucky to have her as a partner. So, and he said like there are so many qualities

that he loves about her. Clearly he made up this reason as to why he wanted to break up with her because. What are you supposed to say to someone? Like when I, you know, it's like, and you know, and every time someone wants to have the talk and I always tell people who call it and I literally talk about it

and don't text your ex happy birthday. It was just like going and having one more conversation is just like asking the person who already told you they don't wanna be with you to find more reasons to tell you why they're not interested in being with you. You know what I'm saying? Like there's just like, there's just no good way. Either way, when you break someone's heart

after certainly a period of time, especially if it's a long relationship, especially if there were like conversations about the future, you're always gonna feel like that person stabbed you in the back, like they lied to you, like they didn't follow through with whatever promises you guys made as a couple when things were good, I mean.

It is sad to see, it's sad, I mean you can see in Rachel's face just how heartbroken she is, and I feel for her. Yeah, I mean, I feel for her about the breakup. I still go back to what we said when we first heard the announcement. I think what Rachel had to experience going through the show itself and that whole ordeal,

she made a mistake and she was martyred. I do think we're in the era of people should just not be on their Instagram accounts. First Matt, now Shed Media. Have you been seeing this? No. So Shed Media is the production company that produces Salt Lake City and Rony.

And Rony. But basically they have a casting Instagram account that's followed by Jenna Lyons and another other like. So it's a real casting account. that's followed by Jenna Lyons and another other like. So it's a real casting account. It's like the Bachelor casting has their own Instagram. Sure. So first, right after the premiere airs,

which it kind of did pick up after a season of flopping, the casting account posted rony casting calls. So basically they cast a new woman, Reunion still hasn't aired yet, so it's kind of weird. And they also don't usually cast Housewives on an Instagram post. Like, it's not open casting. Then, whoever's running this account is going crazy. So on their stories, they start posting multiple slides.

Do not come at me with your complaints, insults, or ridiculous comments. In all caps, you will be blocked. Also, in all caps, I only have time for Roni. Save your other topics for another time. Another slide. Also, in all caps, please be real with yourself. If you're interested in submitting, do you actually see yourself with this cast?

Like this person is taking this, like it's their personal Instagram. Like, we don't know who you are. It'd be like if Mary went on the Vodafil's Instagram and just started like going off. And I was like, if you have anything mean to say about anyone that I like, shut your fucking mouth. Wait, so no one has been like-

We would have a coaching opportunity. We'd have a PR session. Do you want me to hand it over? It might go really well, who knows? I mean, everyone's talking about this. I mean, yeah, maybe. Do you think it's a stunt? Maybe it's brilliant. It has to be.

It has to be. They've been taken down and like, I don't know if like it was an intern or like someone posted on their normal account, but then it happened to be, but then they're clearly responding to the people. They meant it for close friends. I mean, the amount of times Sierra tags me in a video

and then it's deleted, I'm like, well, she has wrong account. It's the most mortifying moment of my life. And Justin and Leia can attest, I'm literally like well, she has wrong account. It's the most mortifying moment of my life. And Justin and like I can attest, I'm literally like, fuck, fuck, fuck, shit. And it's like all like loading and I'm trying to like stop it. You have to wait for it to post fully before you can delete it too. No, one time I posted my own personal story on the Vilephiles account and Nick's because we were doing labs.

Well, that was another account I'm not logged into. Well, R, we had a design meeting yesterday for the Lake House, and Nick sent them our episode from yesterday. And he was like, please don't, wait, don't listen to that, wait, hold on, I'm trying to send you a Pinterest link. Oh no.

They were like, okay. Fuck you, Pinterest. Every time you say copy link, it doesn't ever work the first time. So for anyone out there sending a Pinterest link, make sure it says From your laptop. Copied link. No.

It needs to say copied link because it never works. Also a heads up when you send the link, if you wait a couple of seconds, it will like make a bubble so you can see exactly what you're sending. Well, because it just gave me the code and I didn't know what the... Say it, forget it, write it, regret it. I'm shocked with your lack of tech skills. Is your remote still talking? It's not a lack of tech skills.

It is. He has yet to fix that. My what? YouTube it. The TV's still talking every time we... I haven't figured that one out. I'm actually pretty tech savvy. It's just like at this point in my life,

I really, it's just a matter of do I need it, do I not need it? And I cleanse my, you know, it's like the water cleanse. I just I just do I need good internet back here Do I just want Natalie to keep yelling at me every time the TVs buffering 24 25 26 turn that channel YouTube TV Bama mama and like back. Have you ever accidentally sent a voice note? How do you accidentally? Yeah, I probably have but it definitely was just like possible How do you accidentally sent the voice note? Yeah, I probably have, but it definitely was just like, ruffling.

Oh, yeah, no, like absolutely, actually, every time, like I have my phone, it's like it starts recording some bullshit. Yeah. Okay, Brittany. I accidentally sent a voice note of myself peeing to my boss at my last company. Oh, my God.

And just say that last part out loud? My last company. There you go. Not to Nick, but it was horrible. I literally was like immediately, like do not play that. And then everyone saved it. It was a group message.

I rushed out of a dinner cause I thought I was missing a producer call Friday night cause somebody pocket butt dialed. I butt dialed the group chat the other day. You pocket FaceTimed. Yes, did I pocket FaceTimed the whole. Here's a question for Apple, by the way, still pissed at you guys, fuck you. Did he pocket FaceTime? Yes, did he pocket FaceTime to the whole... Here's a question for Apple, by the way,

I'm still pissed at you guys, fuck you. Why can't you have some sort of butt dial prevention feature? Yeah, like you have to hit the button to make sure that you actually wanna call. If the iPhone can read every metric in your body... It's giving ass print versus fingerprint, let's not do that. How hard could it be to be like, your phone is clearly in a pocket,

we're not trying to call anyone. They do have it for the emergency call button. It gives you three seconds with the loudest alarm you could ever think. Yeah, so why can't they do it when your phone's in your pocket? You're about to send a voice memo to someone you haven't talked to in a long time.

You're telling me Apple is gonna communicate with Spotify to recommend me Grant's new song the next time I go on Spotify, but they cannot. But it doesn't know when your phone's in your butt. Yeah. Does doesn't know when your phone's in your butt. Yeah. Does it ever happen when your phone is in your butt, or is it like when you're holding your.

Not in your butt. No, obviously not in your butt, but like how often does your phone call someone when it's actually in your pocket? No, but now that Lea brings it up, like shockingly I'll take out my phone, and it's like there's a voice memo recording. Which cheek do you prefer when it's in your butt?

Usually my right, but sometimes my left. Okay, good to know. Which one betrays you the most? I'm ambidextrous with my butt. I did have a Britney moment yesterday in the interview we shot where I looked down and I had three minutes of the interview recorded on my phone and I was like.

I feel like majority of the time my flashlight is on and people think I'm recording or something, but it's just I've turned my flashlight on. That too. Maybe that's what happened with Brittany in Salt Lake City. Also Siri, when no one's talking to you, that's when you decide to pop up. Does anybody notice that?

Yeah. Call a big booty husband, big dick husband. Heart, heart, eggplant, eggplant, Nick. It's like, boy. Relax, Nick. It's like, relax girl. Sarah. And then it calls some random person from like your past. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah.

And then they call. It just calls them. It's not even like, are you sure you want to call that person? It just calls them. And then they call me back and I'm like, fuck, I haven't spoken to this person in years. Oh no. My Siri is broken and I actually feel very, very comfortable. I've never used Siri.

Do you guys use Siri? Yeah, all the time. Hey Siri. She's my bestie. Hey Siri, shut the fuck up baby. That's my take on it. You know what I didn't know that you could do though? Is send a six and a half minute voice note.

That was the scariest fucking voice note I've ever heard in my life. That's giving voice memo. It like not even because it's Justin Baldoni, if I heard it from anyone, if I heard it from my own husband, like I'm calling the police, that was very scary. It sounded like he had just jacked off for two hours. The like heavy breathing, the like, it was just the most uncomfortable thing I've ever

heard. Yeah. Well, sad to say we are still in the minority. That's fucking crazy. Like the fact that people are like, what? He literally just said that like, I'm sure you have a baby on your boob Like what's the problem with that? It's like I'm fucking sorry if any other man besides my husband is like hey

I'm sure there's a baby on your boob right now like you could say maybe you're nursing I'm sorry like you might be nursing right nursing That's the only word you're allowed to say as a man who's not my husband is nursing If I get a voice note at 2 a.m. from my boss, I'm quitting. Yeah, that's also fucked up. Yeah. I'm sure you're asleep, but I'm going to send a six and a half minute voice note anyways. I will say that Justin stands, I saw some of the headlines and they were very offended.

There was an E-news headline that said Justin Justin Baldoni sends 2 a.m. voice note talking about Blake's boob, which. True. He did. Accurate, accurate reporting. There are other headlines saying, Justin Baldoni sends 2 a.m. voice note, him apologizing, I guess he could go either way. Justin's reporters were very offended by that headline,

and then in the comments they pointed out that allegedly was following a very long text from Blake at 1.50 a.m. And I was like, huh, how do they know this? Where are they getting this from? If you look at some of the many screenshots, like Justin had a variety of screenshots and then the extraction thing.

But if it's a response, he's literally saying like. Well, exactly. So there was a text message from Blake and there was a timestamp. I mean, it's debated whether some things are altered or not. Who knows? I don't want to get into that, but this one does say 149 in some seconds. And according to some other ones, they had used army time.

So that would suggest that at some point, blank lively sent a 1 50 AM text message. But yeah, this wasn't in response to that. I mean, like, let's play it started. Hey, Blake, two in the morning. Um, hopefully's play it, start it. Hey, Blake. It is 2 in the morning. Hopefully this does not wake you up. He says, sorry if this wakes you up. Like, he wouldn't say that if they were just texting five minutes beforehand. Yeah.

Continue. We can FaceTime or see each other in person soon and get to talk more. But I'm just going to send you a few thoughts and hopefully it's not going to be more than a few minutes, but that'll have the best track record. I don't think either one of us have the best track record for our voice memos. I want to start with an apology. Man, I... Man, that's hard to do.

Reading the second part of your message, my heart's... Yeah, play the boob comment. You probably have kids all over you and a baby on your boob and you're listening to me ramble at 2 in the morning. I hope you're feeling better. I just don't think anyone talks like that. But it's also, there's also in there like, I get all of Blake Lively, our chemistry, or the stuff he's saying is like not stuff I would want my husband sending someone he works with.

Like that's just- People disagree. I know, but it's like, that is just the scariest. I don't know how anyone can listen to that and think there's no way that this is a man who can make someone feel uncomfortable or who is like hyper aware of like a woman's boundaries. And I only point that out because again, this is a guy who claims to be someone who like makes

being hyper aware of women's boundary his entire identity. So I don't know. That's why for me, it just, I don't know. I don't know how you listen to that and go, yeah, definitely no way he can be creepy. Can someone put like 70s porno music under it and see what would happen and what the tone of it would be? And that's, well, it's interesting enough.

Like listen, if you have the hots for Justin Abodoni and you listen to that, like a lot of women are saying. Oh my God, the TikToks are insane. Yeah, they think he has a sexy voice and they're like getting off on it. And I guess if you think he's hot, that makes sense. But what if, I don't know for the ladies out there, if an man has ever made you feel creepy,

think about that person sending you this message. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. You guys have your opinion, we have ours. Apparently it's a new court date. We're gonna have to wait till March of next year to figure out, well, I mean, I don't know how long this trial will last. We don't even know if it's actually going to happen and I might get pushed back.

Well, it could get pushed back. They could settle. Like, I'm of the belief in the opinion that like Justin and his team very much want to continue to release information as they've stated. And that's why I don't get like, is it even debated that Justin has employed this very sophisticated like team that like smears people online? I think Justin and his team very much want to try to get them to settle. I think they want to make this exhausting and keep releasing personal information after

personal information and have this be like so just have everyone online like not agree with them so that they just get fatigued. I do feel like it's gonna be hard if they continue to release footage of like how are they gonna pick a jury for this trial? If like they're just constantly. Well they do have a court order in February to decide whether Justin's lawyer can continue to keep doing what he's doing or not do that.

So we'll see what happens. And I think that's like early February or something. But the actual trial. I think it's a day after my birthday. Oh, okay. I volunteer as tribute. I'll be on the jury. I'm unbiased. We are not unbiased.

Speak for yourself. We clearly have an opinion. I'm just like everybody on the jury is going to have to be somewhere between like 60 and 90. That like doesn't have social media. But then that's going to be biased in itself because they're going to hate women. And those are the same people that are watching like daytime television. So you know that there's been a story

on Good Morning America. And you also love a young man with long hair and muscles. Your grandmother is gonna be like, that's a nice boy. That's a nice boy, I don't like the tone in her voice. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. Clearly great looking men get away with a lot. Ugly men get away with stuff too.

Sure. Yeah, let's be clear. But, doesn't hurt when they're, hi, hi, hi, hi, Leia. Why was he kinda giving Lisa a bar one of that? Good job. Leia just quit. Damn it, Nick.

That's what I'm saying. Did y'all see that Logan Paul and Jake Paul are now gonna fight each other? At least someone's gonna lose. Yeah. I hope they both lose. It'll be a draw. Yeah, literally.

Then you know it's bullshit. We tied. Yeah. We hit each other the exact same amount of times. I mean, I feel like all the critics of Jake Paul is just like, you seem like you're really good, but can you fight an actual boxer? If that's his lane of boxing,

why won't you fight an actual like leading ranked boxer? In their prime, yeah, ranked at some level at your weight class. Like clearly him fighting his brother. You guys have been doing this since grade school, come on now. I mean, listen, I think they're in it for the money and they're making a lot of it.

I mean, they put this on Max. They got to deal with Max to air this. Do you think that like no other like legitimate boxer I think they're in it for the money and they're making a lot of it. I mean, they put this on Max. They gotta deal with Max to air this. Do you think that like no other like legitimate boxer wanted to do this after Mike Tyson because they were like, I'm not gonna sacrifice my title. Well, because obviously there's probably an agreement

in the contract. I have no idea what these contracts, but like say, but like you, there's no denying that these guys are making a ton of money. And if you're willing to fight or get the opportunity to fight Jake or his brother, you're gonna make some money.

I'm just saying if you don't need the money and you care about your title as a boxer, you're probably not gonna fight him if it's in a clause that like you have to lose. I'm not like that in the know of the boxing industry, but I don't think the money is there for a lot of up and comers and it's not what it even used to be

for the top tier people. So like the type of money that Jake and his brother can make you, I think is far more than anything a regular boxer is making these days. So I really don't think it's a lack of boxers being willing to beat the shit out of the Paul brothers. Yeah, Paul brothers. I can't tell what two first names, I always forget.

I think it's like them being very careful who they pick. Right. As to who can, who they wanna. I wish I didn't know who they were. I think it would be a much more peaceful, beautiful world filled with flowers and roses if the Paul brothers were not famous. I have made them richer.

I have paid to try to see them get their beat up. I have and lost. So I do wonder who is keeping these people in business. Us. You. I don't like violence. Speaking of another famous Paul, Taylor Frankie Paul not only confirmed that Mormon Wives returns May 2025, but also the moms of MomTalk are fighting. Thank God. May 2025, but also the moms of MomTalk are fighting.

And Jesse and Demi have now unfollowed each other on Instagram and they were like the packaged pair. Hair stylists. They are working. They look the same. Hair stylists and fruity pebbles. Jesse and Demi? Yeah, they seem like some of them.

I think it's Demi. Demi. Demi. As in like more, yeah. Demi. Yeah. I think these are professionals who take their craft very seriously

and I have the utmost respect for them. The excitement I get every time I open up TikTok and Taylor Frankie Paul is crying on my feed, I'm just like, what happened now? And I'm in another rabbit hole. So they are always providing entertainment. I'm obsessed with her TikTok. It's so messy.

I can't look away. So entertaining. What's gonna happen in 73 days? How will mom Talk survive? What if she breaks her phone? I honestly think what if they just make an app called Mom Talk? And then it's just Mom Talk.

I would subscribe. Why aren't you on Mom Talk? You're a mom, you talk. You know, I think it's more the dancing and I feel like I exceeded my TikTok trend dancing in COVID. Yeah. I feel like I pushed it too far in COVID and I won't be returning back to that version of myself.

Fair enough. Cause I watch them back and it's honestly the cringiest thing I've ever seen. So we all have those moments. You're afraid of River getting sick and you just needing to like dance through? In front of her, in her. I need to watch that at some point. It really brings like me joy.

Can we put, can you find it? No, no, no, no. So good. Oh, one last insane thing, not related to mom talk, but Jill Zarin's daughter, Ali Shapiro is dating Leo from Love is Blind. Who and who? Jill Zarin. She's a OG New York is dating Leo from Love is Blind. Who and who? Jill Zarin. She's a OG New York housewife,

like back with the Ramona. She was, yeah. Her daughter, Ali, is dating Leo from Love is Blind. The art dealer. The art dealer. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's blowing my mind.

And she posted a photo with him captioning it. Can I see who these people, I mean, I remember what Jeremy looks like. Leo? Leo, sorry. He looks like a Jeremy to me. He does look like a Jeremy. It's not Jeremy It's Jeremy the way his brain just like picks a name out of the air and is like that's who he said, right? I love just looks like he would get kicked off of a golf course for being drunk But remember his whole thing was I hear he's a nice fellow. Yeah

Yeah, I said he looks like I didn't say is. And he's dating somebody he's never gonna have to be concerned about. Wants him for his money. But before we move on with household headlines, we have Olivia Holt coming up shortly. Talk about her new movie, Heart Eyes, if you are into that thriller, scary movie type of thing, which I know many of you are.

We are excited to talk to Olivia coming up very shortly. What's our daily dilemma? Okay, so this is a, am I the asshole story that people reported on. Man disinvited from his sister's baby shower after planning an entire event from the man's perspective. All right, so he's the one asking if he's the asshole.

Yes. All right. The man's youngest sister announced her pregnancy after a long journey to conceive. Excited for her, he and his other sister offered to assist with the baby shower. However, the gesture soon led to unexpected complications. For some reason, she took that as, my brother said he would pay for the baby shower and drafted a guest list of 120 people. In an effort to get plans rolling, he created the digital invites and registration site, booked the venue, offered to make centerpieces, and agreed to pick up the food on the day of the event.

He even committed to purchasing a stroller as a gift. His husband also volunteered to organize games for the shower. Things began to change when the pregnant sister became increasingly demanding. The final straw was when she sent him a text message criticizing his efforts, stating, "'I'm disappointed by how much work

"'you've put into this shower.'" The situation further escalated after the pregnant sister began to complain to other family members about the lack of support she was receiving. She even questioned their mother about her contribution to the shower. My 70-year-old retired mother was taken aback by that comment and offered to cook food for 120 people. Following the argument between the expectant mother and her family, she took drastic measures

and disinvited her brother. She's been so ungrateful throughout this entire process and has since uninvited me to her shower and sarcastically said, enjoy your 40th and remove me from my sibling group chat. I feel like there's more to the story. It reads very harsh. It's definitely giving the brother is writing this. I'm confused about is that it just sounds like

the brother did a lot, that his partner also contributed to the baby shower, the mom is contributing to the baby shower, so I'm confused by, I'm disappointed by how much work you've put into the shower because it sounds like a lot of work. Yeah, it sounds like he's put a lot of work into the shower. If someone offers to help you out, I guess for anything,

I'm definitely just appreciative of whatever help they can give. I don't start like assuming that it's their job and responsibility and it's everything's on them. I definitely wanna hear the other side of the story because this seems so like, this is writing like, am I the asshole

because I'm definitely not the asshole. And I wanna talk shit on my sister and make her look bad because like nothing about this story suggests that it's a debate. If someone's offering to help, I definitely don't, it doesn't turn into their job. I would also be offended too if I offered help and then I ended up paying for everything,

doing everything and then I was disinvited from the event. So if that is the truth, then I would also be like, so I did all this work for you to then scapegoat me and say I can't go. But it seems hard to believe that that's all the information. I mean, Jenshaw did it to Angie Katzeneves. Fair, period.

Say that. It happens very often. Housewives history. Housewives history. All right, well up next, Olivia Holt. Well, we love Brooklyn, and we've been talking about Brooklyn since we've been starting this show back in 2019 because I've often

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Maybe just one or two, but I'm good. You're crushing. Thanks, y'all. We were in bed last night watching Beverly Hills Housewives. I love that. And the art. The Hard Eyes trailer came on. We're like, oh, it's Olivia!

Oh, my fun! That's exciting. It looks really good. Thank you. It looks spooky, scary. How did you perfect the scream? Like what was your homework? I mean, Shelley DeVall.

Duh. Like the ultimate icon of, she's the OG scream queen, I feel like. Did you actually like at home practice? Like in America? I feel like you have to, right? Or does it just come instinctively when you're doing the scene?

A little bit of both. I don't think I fully honed in on like the blood curdling scream at home. I think I probably would get a lot of calls. The police would probably show up at my house. Something's going on in apartment B9. Exactly. Screaming down.

Just make sure I'm definitely not here and wherever I am, there are witnesses. So true, it's so true. But it happens in the scene naturally, I feel like. Like when you're on set doing these scary movies, is the vibe a little spooky or does that help? Yeah, yeah and I feel like everyone kind of creates that environment for you.

And I think especially with us, we obviously have a killer who's wearing a mask. And I know who's under the mask. And the second that they put the mask on, like the whole vibe changes. And you do, you feel like this like scary energy throughout the scene. I feel like a mask really does scary energy throughout the scene. That is... I feel like a mask really does... It does its job.

Yeah. Honestly, like, I... Like, I feel like I've... This is so random, but like, have you ever driven past, I don't know, a car or a truck, an 18-wheeler, and they, like, for some reason have a scary mask, like, hanging in there? I don't know why. Can't say I've experienced that. I see those all the time.

Do you know what I'm talking about, Justin? It's either the mask in the car or the feet out the back, you know, like the fake feet. Yeah. I've seen the fake feet. Oh, okay. Hate those people. Yeah.

For why? Why? Why are we doing that? You know, those truck drivers have a sick sense of humor. They're on the road a lot. Yeah, they gotta mix that shit up. They're always in their head thinking about the craziest shit. That's so true.

They wanna get a little, you know they don't get those anymore. Yeah, they don't. They don't? No, I watched a- Always used to like- Yeah, I watched some 18-wheeler truck drivers were telling a story or doing some interview or something

and they were like, whenever we get a kid who does that, it's a big deal. We talk about it with everyone and we're like, we finally got a kid to like get us to honk. Did you do that as a kid? Yeah, of course I did. Did you do that as a kid? Absolutely.

I guess kids aren't doing it anymore. Especially like school bus drivers. That seemed like a, did you? I once got ran off the road by an 18-wheeler, so. You stopped doing it. So you're like, I stay clear. I don't try to connect with them bitches at all. Not for me.

Not for me. Not for me. Why did parents stop doing this? I don't know if it's the parents or, yeah, I feel like maybe kids are just talking on iPads. There's no way any kid, like if you're a child, like when River gets old enough and we're like, hey, do this, and she'll be ecstatic. Like, it's the parents' fault.

It's gotta be the parents' fault. But I feel like kids just aren't looking out the window as much as we were. Yeah, I think that's a good theory. I think the parents thought, hey, look at the big fucking truck and get off the phone. I guess. I mean, I won't say it like that to be clear to everyone.

Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. But I've never seen a truck driver with a mask. You will now, and it will honestly spook you out probably just as much as being in a room with someone. I actually hope I do.

I hope I experience that in my life. I hope you do too. What is more difficult, performing on Broadway or acting as if you're about to get absolutely murdered by a scary monster wearing a mask? I feel kind of stupid acting like I'm about to get murdered. Like I feel like it's such a funny environment to be in. Cause you know, you're with a whole crew on set

and sometimes you're like on the floor and you're like backing up and- And now being the verge of death. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then they all cut and you're like backing up and... And now be on the verge of death. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then they all cut and you're like, -"Okay." -"All right." What do you think of that? That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, I don't know, but Broadway is just a whole different beast to tackle. Did you enjoy the experience? It was the time of my life. Okay, so maybe in the future you'll return? I hope so. I hope so. You played a very iconic character of which some people, and we love Bravo Nation,

have also tried to, and when I say tried I don't mean that disrespectfully, I have not seen their performances, but Ariana played Roxy also. Didn't Erika Jayne? Erika Jayne. Right now. I think she's on right now.

Have you seen their performances? I have not, no. Any notes? Well, I think that they're iconic in themselves, so they're probably crushing it. And it's such a fun role to play too. And I really love that every actress that goes and plays Roxy,

they kind of put like their own personal flair on her. I think that's why the show is, it's one of the longest running shows on Broadway. I think that's why it's been on for so long, because they just, they're constantly keeping it fresh with these incredible actresses who just come on and play around with the role. Do you have a dream Broadway role?

I don't know. I've always said if I go back to Broadway, it would be really fun to make something original. Because there's so many incredible shows on Broadway. And I, I mean, I really, I think I saw Cabaret. I saw Cabaret for the first time. And to play Sally Bowles would be like a, be like a dream.

Yeah. But I think it would be really fun to create a character from scratch. Get that Tony. Yeah. Fingers crossed. One of these days. What has been the most like surreal moment

of your career thus far? I think right now. Yeah. Fingers crossed. One of these days. What has been the most, like, surreal moment of your career thus far? I think right now. Yeah. I think right now. I've started off in sitcom and did that for the majority of my teenage life. And then I moved on to doing episodics. And then I kind of started dabbling into the world of making movies. And this is my first theatrical release, which has been a dream of mine since I was a kid.

I went to the movies every single weekend with my family growing up. Like that was like our family thing. Friday, family movie nights, sometimes football. But it was always we had to go to the movies. We had to see something new that was coming out. And the experience of going to the theater, there's nothing like it. And I went to go see a movie the other night

and the Hard Eyes poster is outside of the AMC. And it just... It's pretty cool. Yeah, there's nothing like that. It just, it's the world of... It's like what everyone thinks of when they think of Hollywood. It's very surreal. So it does feel like a little pinch me right now

because I've never experienced anything like this. Like I've had incredible jobs that I'm proud of that have come out, but this is territory I haven't really stepped in for. Yeah, but the billboard, when I was the bachelor a long time ago, when we got dim sum at the Americana, like my photo was like on all the ones in the mall

and that's definitely trippy. So it's very cool. Yeah, it is, it's really cool. There's a lot of online chatter about people wanting you to play Brittany in a biopic. Yeah, there is. How do you, sitting with you here now, I'm like, I see it. I see it.

Thank you. How do you feel about that belief in the- Honored, oh, I'm honored that I would love to. I think- Great, let's make it happen. I would love to make that happen. I think she's, I mean, she, she, I grew up on Britney. Like, there was, there was no one else

that I was obsessed with except for her. Like my, I have so many photos of me as a child, like posing like this because that's how she's posed. And I had like a Britney Spears watch, like every hour she would like do like a dance. Oh my God. Who are other people suggesting? Who's your competition?

Who are people out there? I've actually only ever seen your name for that. So I wanna, yeah. Who else? I think Sabrina Carpenter's name is thrown out there, but she's just blonde. No offense, Sabrina. I mean, so, but they're all so talented.

But I think for you, it's like you're very grateful to be in that pool of women that people are speculating or. But I mean, Brittany's from. Louisiana. Louisiana. And Kentwood. You're from Tennessee. There's like that Southern roots.

I don't know. I feel like you would totally crush that. Have you practiced her like speaking voice? No. I don't wanna put you on the spot. I'm scared, I'm scared. Well, I was gonna say sitting next to you, I know my Southern accent is gonna pop out every now and then.

That's how I feel anytime we have like a country road. It's like, how y'all doing? I know, it's so easy to like fall back into it. I'm like, who are you? Who are you? Do you, it comes out, so. Yeah, yeah. Oh no, you can't hear it.

Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Did you have to take, I mean, I did too and I obviously regret it now, but did you take dialect classes to, yeah. Yeah, I moved out here to do a show so young,

so it was still kind of there. And kind of, like everyone on the show was like, like our producers, they were like, what is this accent? And so yeah, I had to take dialect lessons. But I also kind of like leaning into it. I think it kind of creates like my own little flair and thing, but now I feel like I just talk like this.

Like it's just such a straight way of talking. But I love when I just talk like this. Like it's just such a straight way of talking. Yeah, I feel the same. I like, I had a manager who was like, you're not gonna do anything in life if you have this. I mean, it was like a thick, I was very redneck and they were like, you're not gonna make it anywhere with this. And so, but now I feel like, yeah, it's a part of me

that like when I'm around other people from the South or my family or I just call someone who has a slight accent and it comes out and I'm so grateful that it does because I'm like, yes, you're still in me. Exactly, exactly. I'm curious if someone said that because I feel like a lot of people are very drawn to that accent.

It was in the time of like, you have to sound like a news anchor. They weren't gonna, I don't know why that was. I mean, I guess it's just... Like Reese Witherspoon. Like, I feel like young Reese Witherspoon was always like... She always had that accent. ...throwing out that Southern accent. Also, give me a shot of tequila and I'm back in the South.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. I'm right back there. If I get a little drunk, I am also, yeah. It's game over. It's game over. Everyone, yeah, everyone's asking, who are you? I'm like, I am also, yeah. Game over, game over. Everyone's asking, who are you? I'm like, I don't even know.

I don't even know right now. So what are you doing with your free time these days, if you have any? I have a lot of free time. I don't know. I kind of like to keep it low key because during times like these, you're always so busy and you can't even catch a moment to doom scroll

or do anything that feels so removed. Have you been affected by the TikTok ban? Yeah, I'm a scroller though. I don't make them really, so it was really rough for me. Yeah, you were like, oh, I get a break. Well, I haven't been on for a while as a consumer and then I dropped my phone and broke it. Oh, very good.

And now he cannot. Now it's off my phone. Oh yeah, you're done for. I, as soon as I went to TikTok, and it was like, everyone was like posting their, where it was like, you cannot access, and everyone was posting that. So I wanted to see if it was for myself too.

And then when it was, it was like, oh, guess I'll delete TikTok. Like if it's gone. You too. And I deleted the app and now I can, like it's not, that app is not in the app store. I can't associate with you guys anymore. You won't be seeing me on TikTok anymore.

Our mental health has never been better. Yeah. That's so true though. It's so true. I'm like reading my book at night and not like scrolling constantly. It makes such a difference. I'm actually like with my daughter while my book at night and not like scrolling constantly. It makes such a difference. I'm actually like with my daughter

while she's learning things and not like watching. Incredible, incredible. Yeah, yeah. I've never been more present. So is that your main form of entertainment, just the scrolling? No, it's not. I don't mean like a bad thing.

I actually think I have a really- We watched Trash TV. I mean that too. Are you watching Severance? Yes. We just finished, don't spoil, because we just finished rewatching, well I finished rewatching episode one,

which honestly I didn't realize, I don't think I, I thought, I think I ended watching season one, spoiler for anyone who hasn't watched season one, earmuffs, I thought the end of season one was when you found out. His wife. Miss, Miss.

Casey. Miss Casey was... And then it continued on and he was like, what is this? I'm like, this is still season one. I'm like, did you just stop watching and think that was like season finale? What happened? There's like three more episodes after that.

Oh, cause that was like season, like it was like episode. He thought it was like the season finale was that finding out that that was his wife. No, it got better. No, it got wild. It got really wild. Where are you in season two? I'm caught up.

Oh my God. I'm on, yeah, I think episode three comes out shortly. How good is it so far? It's, I mean, it's so great. I love the story building. I always get a little annoyed when people are like, it's so slow, which shows can be, but I love, you have to like create the world,

you have to care about the characters, you have to understand, like it's, and sometimes there are episodes where you're like, they could have given me something. Give me some condense that a little bit, yeah. But if you're like that, and this is what Nellie and I do, when something like Severance comes out,

that's like a weekly drop, we just But I- But if you're like that, this is what Nellie and I do, when something like Severance comes out, that's like a weekly drop, we just will wait three or four weeks so that we can binge- 100%. The first couple episodes, rather than like watching one episode and being like, what did I just watch?

I'm not really sure who's who, I'm a little confused by the characters, we haven't really gotten into the story. And that way- No, that's true, that's actually a really great way of doing it. Thank you. Yeah, respect. I like that. I'm glad that's true. That's actually a really great way of doing it. Thank you. Yeah, respect.

I like that. I'm glad that we didn't start season one until season two is out, because when we finished season one, I was like, can you imagine waiting two years plus for the next season to come out? That's crazy. Are you into reality TV?

I feel like, yeah, you are, right? What is your go-to? I don't know, actually. I feel like I'm kind of all over the place with it. It used to be, well, it used to be Selling Sunset. I was really into Selling Sunset for a while, but now they're on like season 27 and I don't know how I feel about it anymore.

Yeah, they've gone really far. I feel like season one was so, like, cause it was COVID time and it was like, anything that came out during COVID was the best thing you've ever seen in your life. Also, that's when I got into reality TV, was during the pandemic and I hadn't really, I didn't like, I hadn't binged a reality show like that.

And Selling Sunset was, that was, yeah, I was full on binge mode in that. Are you Salt Lake City Real Housewives? No, do I need to be? You should be. Oh my God. It's so good. Fine, twist my arm.

Love Island? Love Island I love. Love is blind? Love is blind, yes. I'm not caught up on the newest season of Love is Blind. I feel like a lot of actors love Love is Blind. Why do you think that is? I don't know why that is.

What does that say about us? I think a lot of actors like reality TV in general because it's, you know, when you watch a movie or a TV show being on set and you know how the sausage is made, I think sometimes, you know, I'm sure a lot of actors enjoy a lot of scripted programming, but I think there's an element of reality TV that is very fascinating to a lot of actors.

I actually, hearing you say that, I think I just came up with a theory in my head. It's because we love human behavior. And we're watching so many different forms of the way people are wired in elements that they're not necessarily the most comfy in. Who did we have on, from the lioness? Genesis.

Genesis Rodriguez. Yes, and she's a big Bravo fan and Genesis was telling us that like, she studied some of the housewives for doing some character work. Yeah. For some of her roles. I mean, it makes so much sense.

You wanna know what an affluent person that lives in New York acts like or Salt Lake City? Exactly. It's different. It's very different. Affluent, maybe. That's what I said. It's very different. Affluent, maybe. That's what I said. No, I know.

I know why you said that. Okay. You don't think they're affluent? What's affluent mean? Rich, wealthy. Rich, wealthy. Of the above. Influence.

Okay, yeah. Fuck me. That's okay. What did you think it meant? I don't know. Bilingual. Like fluent in English. Oh, I thought it meant something like classy.

Oh yeah. I think that's under a roll. Sure, but I, you know, that's where I was like, I don't know. Trying to throw you a bone here, guy. We have a game for you, Olivia. Oh, I love games. Sierra made it.

Is it an emotional game? Cause I can't do that. Not at all. No, this is mindless. I can't do that. It's a would you rather? Bravo edition. Oh fun.

Reality TV. Oh, Reality TV. You don't need to have watched anything to have played this game. Oh, okay. Can I also play? Oh, we can all play. 100%.

You will know maybe a little bit, like you'll know where some of the questions come from. You'll know the backstory, but these are all things that have actually happened on Reality TV. I didn't make these up. So what do you call this game? Would you rather?

Would you rather? Reality TV edition. Olivia Holt. With Olivia Holt. Would you rather be told that you have bad bangs or be told that you have a high body count hair? I know my answer. I think high body count hair.

Yeah, because you can't, it takes so long to fix the bangs. Yeah. And I say like, thanks. That's gonna take forever to grow out long to fix the bangs. Yeah. And honestly, like, that's awesome. That's going to take forever to grow out. Thank you so much. Whoa.

It's like, you fuck. Yeah. But bangs, it's like, what are you going to do? You can only like, you have forever to think about that until they grow out. The fact that, like, I think most women are agreeing with you is awesome. Would you rather go to prison for toxivation or go to prison for frauding the elderly? Toxivation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything with the elderly is like you just don't you can't mess it up. Don't do it. Would you rather be called basic or be called boring? Basic. Yeah, basic. Do you want to contribute?

Oh, I'd rather be called boring. Really? Really? Everyone's basic. We're all a little basic. But boring, that cuts deeper than like, oh my God, you love Starbucks and fall and like football. I am who I am.

Okay. You know? Boring. I'm not here to entertain you. Would you rather attend a pizza party at Chuck E. Cheese or a 53 year old's Butt Mitzvah? Oh, this one's hard. It is not hard.

I'm going to the Butt Mitzvah. I think Butt Mitzvah. Butt Mitzvah. Well, I love Chuck E. Cheese. You do? No. I love it. I love Chuck E. Cheese.

Justin looks us with their pizza. I am too. Not Skee Ball. I had, you don't like E Cheese. Justin looks us with their pizza. I am too. Not Skee-Ball. I had, you don't like the Skee-Ball? I never said that. I've never heard you talk about the Skee-Ball, but I have heard- I'm a Skee-Ball on one hand,

pizza on the other. Justin ordered Chuck E Cheese pizza here. Yeah. Like to go. In honor of the show we were watching. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. No, that's called an excuse to order the pizza you like. Yeah.

That's like watching a commercial. We were doing research. Okay. No one here was like, I wonder what it tastes like. Would you rather be brought on an all expense paid trip to Palm Springs, but you have to fly back 17C coach or be the only single person invited on a couples trip? How many couples are we talking about?

Say five. That's a lot of couples. That's how many couples are on the trip? No, I understand. Definitely. But like, I think everyone, I think some people take pride in being like a good third or fifth wheel, you know, like someone who can like- Yeah, I feel like camp counselor.

Yeah. I'd be like, all right, you guys, let's go. Let's rally the troops. I'm the judge for the volleyball competition. Yeah. I would just force everybody to play games. Yeah. And you could be like, you could just watch all the couples argue and be like,

all right, well now I'm gonna go like drink wine in the hot tubs. See you guys later. That's so true. Or I'd have the glass of wine and mediate the whole thing. Yeah. No one likes it when I do that. So I actually don't know.

Are you a mediator? No. No. I would like to think in my head I am, but I'm not that. I feel like Olivia, shut up. We don't want to hear from you right now. They don't. No one wants to hear.

Yeah, it'd be the 18th wheel or 17th wheel and just like. I think, yeah. I was like, am I the only person that's down to go on an all-expense paid trip and fly home coach? Yeah, we're constantly in coach, Nick. Why do you feel like you wouldn't want to do that? I would want an all-expense paid trip. I don't care where I'm sitting on the way home.

You know what? You're so right. We're going to go with that one. This isn't even a question. I don't know why we sussed that one out. We're good. We don't need to. I would love to just play therapist with all of them and poke holes. I don't know if you guys are getting along. Oh my God.

Toxic. Yeah. Would you rather catch your boyfriend cheating with two girls at his apartment, or find out that your boyfriend is having an affair with your best friend? Jesus. Where did these happen on? Southern Charm, when Madison was dating Austin, she walked in on him in his apartment with two girls

and then filmed it, like, yeah. She filmed it? Oh my God. She like said it, like, yeah. So Austin had two girls over from the bar, and she like came in and like... He was hanging with threesome? He wasn't having a threesome. She didn't catch him like in the act,

but there was two girls that were not dressed fully and he was in his underwear and there's a video of him being like, Madison, what the fuck? Like whatever, so that didn't happen. They were smooching. They were smooching. Oh my God. He brought two girls home from the bar

and then Vanderpump rules. What happened to so much charm? Tom Sandiball and Ariana. We are not getting that quality programming this season. That's what I said. It's like I'm bummed that I've gassed this show up so bad because I'm like, it used to be crazy, but catch your boyfriend cheating with two girls at his apartment or find out that your boyfriend

is having an affair with your best friend. I think the two girls at the apartment. That's what I would think. Yeah. It's like the two random girls is a dagger, and then the other one is the dagger and the twist and the twist right? That's so true. And also I feel like because They weren't in the act yet You know, like maybe it would have been different if like you saw them all having sex and then like that's an image that's scarred into

Your brain, but yeah, they were all just hanging out and they're on their own. They were all, yeah, it was, uh, it was, it was adults. The game. What's the game strip? They were hot. Twister strip twister. They were playing strip twister. Yeah.

Uh, would you rather be the bachelorette or compete for the bachelor? I would rather be the bachelorette. I don't know if I can handle 20 women. Yeah. If you're talking filming, I'll say from personal experience, no one would want to be the lead. If we're talking strictly filming and not like the opportunities you get from, like, you know, because clearly like being the lead.

Experience. You're the lead. Right. The filming process, so much worse being the lead. That makes sense. You have to hang out with your friends most of the time, every once in a while you maybe get to talk to someone you like.

The other time you have to like make out with a bunch of people you do not wanna make out with and entertain a bunch of people you don't like and have awkward conversations with a bunch of people who don't know how to talk. Am I like getting eliminated first episode? Yeah, of course. You're final four. Yeah.

You're along for the ride. You're along for the ride. Okay, that's, I mean, this is a really tricky. I don't wanna make out with a bunch of people I don't wanna make out with. Yeah, my reason for wanting to be the Bachelorette is because I don't have to deal with the like drama, the nonsense of the house.

To that extent, because obviously you don't have. You have to deal with the like drama, the nonsense of the house. To that extent, cause obviously you have. You have to deal with it all. Well, then what, then I don't know. It's a lose-lose. I don't know. I take myself out of this one. Can we choose neither?

I know. Olivia and I are, Olivia and I are in, I mean it is just a game. We're in hard eyes. I know. I'm like sweating in stress. Olivia Hull, we'd rather not be the bachelorette. Yeah.

Would you rather get engaged to someone you've never met before or have your significant other give you an ultimatum to get married or break up? These keep getting harder. They do. I definitely am the ultimatum. I cannot marry someone that I have not seen or get engaged to someone that I have not seen. I'm with you.

That is fucking hard. I mean, shit, like, is that, you know, shit or get off the pot, you know? That's, yeah. I think I agree. That is fucking hard. I mean shit, I guess that, you know, shit'll get off the pot, you know? That's, yeah. I think I agree. Right? Yeah. They would, in part of this process, in your decision-making process,

have to live with someone else for three weeks. True. Okay. I think I might change my answer. You're going get engaged to someone you haven't seen. Well, because, well, if we're talking about Love is Blind, like at least I get to know their personality. And I'm not really, like, I don't have like a looks thing, like I'm not a physical, like I-

You'll date a rock. Well, what does that mean? You'll date a rock. No, no, no, not the personality of a rock, but they could look like a rock. You gotta have a great personality. A funny, charming, yes. Yeah, okay, rock.

All right, would you rather be investigated by the FBI or be investigated by your friends who hired a PI? Definitely my friends. Oh my God, friends who hired a PI, like the FBI, sorry. Well, what, why am I on their radar? But I guess that's true too. I was like, I don't know, but I feel like having your friends investigate you

and go into like your background behind your back, like that's- No, I'll take friends. I'll take friends. For like the federal government being like, we need to investigate you. They don't lose cases. What if it was mistaken identity?

I don't know. Okay, would you rather hook up with a man who dresses up as a pirate or a man who calls himself Johnny Bottles? Tough one. That is tough. Likes to dress up as a pirate. Yeah, I'm gonna go with, yeah.

Because like everyone, everyone can be a goofball. Every once in a while. We love a goofball. But if he's coming to you and being like, you only can call me Johnny Bottles, not Johnny. You know, it's like, fuck, I can't do that. Yeah, a self-proclaimed nickname. You're one of the worst humans in the world.

Would you rather be broken up with after fantasy suites or after hometowns. So after you fuck or after you meet your family? Or on a flight back when your ex announces it to the world before you tell your family. But also fantasy suites is after both. Fantasy suites is after us but hometowns. They've met your family and you fuck,

so I gotta go after you meet my family. I'd rather you just like, instead of going through all of that. What was all that? You feel like your stroke game is weak? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like I'd rather you break up with me after you like meet my crazy aunt versus like after you meet my crazy aunt and then we have sex.

I can assure you, the farther you go, the worse it is. Unpacking drama. Yeah, do you want to talk about it? Yeah, are you okay, honey? Are you okay? These are triggering for Nick. Can we get a new game? You're triggering my husband. Okay, one last one.

I'm fine. I'm fine, single tear. He's sweating. Would you rather have a guy you like bring a hot new girl you've never heard of on a group vacation, or have a guy you don't like follow you around like a puppy on a group vacation? Where are these from?

Summer House, our introduction to Sierra was Hannah Berner was dating Luke, and then it's the COVID season. Luke's late coming and he brings Sierra with him, but nobody knew that he was bringing her until like he calls on the way there. So she thought that she was hooking up with Luke the whole time and then he's bringing this hot new girl. And then this other is Taylor and JT

when they go on vacation in the Bahamas last season and JT was just like, I'm here for you. I love your fine champagne. I would do anything to not have to go on vacation with JT. Yeah. So you would rather watch your crush, your lady with somebody else for an entire vacation? Well, first of all, Natalie loves me.

Well, yeah, it's hypothetical. I'm not a liar. I'm not like you. Congrats. But for this hypothetical situation. Anything but JT. Yeah, I don't know if I want to be followed by someone I am like, I don't like. I feel to be like followed by someone I am like, I don't like.

I feel like I could tolerate that more though than watching somebody I like with somebody else. That's how that is true. Yeah, but then if you saw you talk to a guy, he would come up to me like, you know what, you know about this guy, he's like, I one time I saw him like not tip away transcend or something stupid, he would bring something up. Nick does not like JT. Fucking hate that guy. Well, that wraps it up for Would You Rather?

With Rihanna TV Edition. Yay! Love, that was fun, y'all. Thanks for playing. Thank you. I feel like we learned so much about you from that. Really? Yeah, I feel like we learned that you don't care about looks.

All you care about is personality. Funny rocks. Okay, I do care about looks. But you'll marry a funny rock. Sure. I'm gonna make that my Instagram bio. We personality. Funny rocks. Okay, I do care about love. But you'll marry a funny rock. Sure. I'm gonna make that my Instagram bio. Will marry funny rock. Will marry funny rock.

You do love is blind over the ultimatum. Can we bring up Olivia's heart eyes trailer and hear that scream one more time as we send her on her way? Hey, you good? Yeah. I'm pretty. There it is. Oh, it's so good.

That was a real scream. That was a real machete. Oh my God. What a great date night, Valentine's Day movie. Out February 7th, by the way, everybody. Honestly, because I can get kind of steaming, you know? Like you watch that movie, you get scared. It's like, oh, we could get killed.

Oh my God. We'd have to do it one more time because we could get killed tonight. All right, grab your loved ones, go to the movies out February 7th. Olivia, it's been so much fun. Thanks for coming. Thank you.

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Well, none of the pants they sent fit. I've gained 30 pounds emotional eating, so they did send me some beautiful pants that they don't fit and these shorts are adjustable. But they did send this beautiful jacket that I got some ash on yesterday, which I feel like it makes it more vintage.

Is that also Hugo Boss? I don't know if you're supposed to say Hugo Boss or Boss. I've also been very confused because they have two accounts. They have two different brands. Yeah, and they're like, I was DMing and tagging Hugo Boss a lot, and they kept on being like,

I think you're trying to get at boss. And so did you give them both? Did you give them like some feedback? Because honestly, it's been very confusing for me. I just realized this morning that I've been because like, I even want to buy a suit. It's like, it's a boss or a boss for now. And toxic matter.

Yeah, it's just funny because I jokingly spent all this money on sale for my friend's wedding before the fires because I needed a suit, a dress rehearsal. So I needed three looks and I spent two weeks going back and forth to Boss in Century City and I was so happy and I kept putting them all on. I kept tagging them joking like, hey, can I be your new influencer model? I know you got the tennis player, but you want somebody more humble, relatable. And obviously they never responded. Emphasis on humble.

Yeah. So they never responded. And then all these boxes hit the house. Once the house burned down, they're like, oh, you can influence for us now. So that was great. It's been wild, man. Psycho. We're excited to have you finally here. Listen, you're a literal international pop star now. Like we operate on your account. Thank you, wow, truly. Can we just?

I work, it's a different, this is a different Heidi and Spencer than what we, when was that, like a year ago? I mean, we've had some performers on, but like I don't think we've ever had a performer on, like yourself, at the height of their career. So this is a first for us. Well, I feel like it's a joint pop collaboration at this point. It's like, yeah, it's myself,

but I feel like the enthusiasm and support is like for both of us. I feel like people are loving the music in lieu of support. So I feel like it is a pop star, but it's like, he's your school. I know he in some circles, depending on like, you know, the Swifties and all, but like, I know he's like persona non grano, but like his management skills, scooter brawn can't be. What is happening? I don't know. I mean,

Are you comparing him to who? No, we hate that. I mean, I can't, I can't go into that. That's a whole different, I have enough issues. We get what you're saying. He's asking for a manager. He's a great manager. Whoever the greatest.

I get what you're saying. We can delete that. So what's your take on Blake and Justin? I did just do a TikTok because I had to be clear that I was bought off. Mr. Ryan Reynolds put us- Well, we did a Mint Mobile ad, so we've also apparently-

So once you pay me, it's very hard to get me to turn on you. So I listen to that seven minute voice memo and if anybody leaves me a seven minute voice memo, they're criminals. So I truly, I don't need a deep dive of the case anymore. Who left who a voicemail? You haven't heard it? And Heidi does not have time for that.

Which one must she make a music? She is not meeting her schedule. But Spence, we're in the minority. There's a baby probably in your boob right now. What? He said that to her? That can't be a thing. No, but he was, listen, no one agrees with us. Everyone's like, no, she was breastfeeding. What's the big deal?

He talked about her boob. He said he was sorry. At three in the morning. Not even should be. And then he called her at three in the morning. Voice memo. Seven minutes on and it sounds like a romance, like sex novel.

Is Pitbull texting you right now? I have Pitbull's number. Pitbull talks like he raps. Like if you think I talk fast, Heidi was like, she really made me step in my life. She got off phone, she's like, oh, you're nothing compared to Pitbull. I just said, you think you talk fast.

It's like he had Spencer in Fast Forward. It was- 2X speed, 3 talk fast. It's like he had Spencer and fast forward. It was, it was incredible. And it was the most concise, like conversation blown away, inspired, blown. I was like, who did I just talk to an alien? That was unbelievable. It was that good. He was like, mama Sita, I got you.

And God is going to put us together for a reason. And we're going to help the world. And yeah, the whole thing. And he's like, I got you. Don't worry. We're going to help other people and I can't wait. And I always wanna, you know, it's part of my life. Blah, blah, blah, to always help.

And anyways, the way he said it was like so unbelievable. I like was like, bye. And hung up and started like crying. I'm like, that was like the best conversation I've ever had. I think I probably said, yeah, sure, great. Okay, yeah. Yeah. That's amazing.

Well, I mean, I'm so glad you guys are here. And I just wanna start by saying, I hate what happened to you guys. Obviously, that's a tragedy. But the way you two have responded, maybe I'm just in my husband, dad era, but the way you two have come together in this tragedy, the way Spencer has supported you,

and the way that you guys are a family riding for each other. I was talking with a friend about you guys, and it's just like, we love reality TV, we watch it, I've come from reality TV, you guys do, but when it comes to relationships in reality TV, it's oil and vinegar, they don't mix. Going on a reality TV show is like a fucking nail

in a coffin for any relationship, and you guys have always been the exception, and just the way, no one can deny that no matter what you guys do in the public eye, reality TV, your ability to stay connected shows that you guys have always been each other's top priority. I love that about you guys and the way that you guys demonstrate that facing this tragedy,

I really think is incredibly inspirational. That's why I think so many people have rallied around you guys. And I just, I just fucking love it. I think it's amazing. Thank you. Oh my God, he's speechless. We made Spencer Pratt speechless. I mean, because anytime I think about it, like, fuck,

we still don't have our town and the house. So it's like, it's like, like, yeah, he's so poppin'. But it's like, it's just the weirdest. Like, like we were saying yesterday, we were doing things where I had to answer questions and I just didn't have an answer. And usually, somebody asks you for beats, you're like, oh, what?

And I'm like, it's just like, you're like, well, what now? I'm like, I don't fucking know. It's so horrible. It is interesting, though, because we did an interview with ET after, and they came up to Santa Barbara, and they're like, has this made you closer? And we're both kind of like, no, because we've been through so much and we always are so

close and we, you know what I mean? So it doesn't really make us closer. Like this is just another obstacle that we move through with this foundation that we've had. I think we've faced more opposition and criticism and negativity than most couples. And so we've had to really navigate through a lot of things. And this is obviously way more devastating and a different level of that. But it is interesting what you're saying. You would think that something like this is like, oh, well, we gotta bond together.

It's like, frick, this is just one more sink or swim moment. It's kind of my point. I was like, let people do something. It's like, what does this teach you? Is this a, is you've had some sort of epiphany now. And like, you guys that have a history of being a team, you know, like this, like exactly what you said.

I mean, this must be an experience unlike anything you've ever experienced But like that's them you guys are here your stories that you guys talked about Back in the day the shit you face when doing the hills like I just don't think we Acknowledge when couples like yourselves demonstrate their ability to fight through difficult times You know we we love to celebrate breakups And we love to like talk about ourselves talk about ourselves and all you need is yourself. But you guys, I think, have been incredibly inspirational for couples out there.

Thank you. And show why it's so important to have each other's back. Yeah. I can't imagine how difficult the situation would be if you weren't a team. That's what's so scary. I know the pandemic and COVID, you heard about so many breakups and stuff because now it's like you're really tested. So it's scary to think about all the relationships and families that were affected by this that aren't built like Heidi and I that I, you know, even hopefully my parents can survive in the apartment together. So yeah, it's a lot.

Did your parents? Oh, my parents has burned down also. Oh my God. So they're now very close contact, which they used to, my dad snores really loud, I don't. So it's just now it's just a different marriage that even they've now have, because they had a house that like could separate each other.

And where are you guys staying right now? We're in Santa Barbara. My parents are in Santa Monica. It's my dad's still a dentist working. Correct me if I'm wrong. So your house had burned down and then you went to your parents' house or correct? And then their house, you had to leave their house as well?

The fire, so we lived at the top of the Palisades where the fire we thought was coming down. We didn't know, because we weren't watching the news because Heidi wouldn't change the channel because we had a sick kid with 104 degree temperature just locked into Blippi or whatever. And she's like, I'm not turning on the news. I'm like, turn on the news,

which if we had turned on the news, we would have known the fire was coming up from Temescal Canyon, like going towards my parents' house, but we just thought it was behind our house. So she evacuated with the kids to my parents' house to be safe. And then when she got there, like took everything out, my older sister called like, what are you doing there? You're not watching the news. The fire is about to hit like mom and dad's house. So yeah, that was a, you know, pack up there too. Yeah. So she doubled packed up solo with sick kids. Because I'm trying to tear my dad away from a mountain of fire.

Because he was like in this trance, like, like would not leave him like, you're going to die. Like he's like, I'm going to stay and, and fight the fire. I did it in Malibu in the 70s. I'm like, this is a forest fire. You're gonna die. So I had to like, took me two hours to get him in a car and I finally drove him away. And then I watched on our security cameras,

he snuck back. So now I'm watching my dad with this little garden hose as just a mound of flames is coming down the street. And I'm like, he's not picking up his phone. So the hardest part about the whole thing was watching and not having my dad pick up his phone. And I was like, my dad's going to die. And like, Heidi's like, you got to leave, you got to leave. And I'm like, I got to go back. So thankfully, it took my mind off the fact we're losing everything

because I was so concerned about my dad dying, which he fully should have, because then he went from my house to his house and wasn't picking up the phone. I kept calling and calling and finally he picked up and he sounded, I had him on speaker, he sounded like he had brain poisoning or something from the smoke. And he's like, I'm doing well in here.

All the houses around are on fire, but I'm doing a good job. I'm like, you're gonna die. He's like, I'll just jump in the pool. I'm like, oh, he is like. We called 911 to have someone go check on him and they're like, you're gonna die. He's like, I'll just jump in the pool. I'm like, oh, he is like. We called 911 to have someone go check on him and they're like, absolutely not. No one is going there.

Those roads are inaccessible. Whatever he is doing is taking his own life at risk. We are not sending anyone to go check on him. They're like, how does he eventually get out? He said, like, finally, like I probably call realistically 700 times, like just like that for two hours. Finally, he's like, yeah, I probably call realistically 700 times, like, just like that for two hours. Finally, he's like, yeah, I gotta go.

And he's like, I'm gonna get out of here. And he did say as he was driving, cars were just blowing up next to him, trash cans were just on fire, blowing and hitting the car. So he admits that he's very lucky. And you know, he went to the hospital with like, smoke inhalation, poisoning, whatever. And he can barely talk now. So that was like good and bad. Cause it really took my mind off of like watching our own house burning down on

the security cameras. So it was like, at least my dad got out of there. And then I was just like, so mad for so long. Like, why would he have added, I didn't need this extra, but he clearly, you know, once our house burned down, he's like, I can't lose two, you know, the family needs one house. So I get it. But this was not a normal situation. That's crazy. Oh, it's, I mean, it's beyond crazy because it's also, like I always say, like I've been born and raised in the Palisades, every single one of my friends and their parents, everyone's house burned down.

So it's not like, oh, my, our house and my family, like my group chats. And my, like every, our whole world. So I just keep saying to Heidi when I'm like, I just feel like we got jacked. Like our lives were just stolen from us. Like everything I've ever known. And the hardest part is like, we have our iPhones. Like we take a lot of photos, a lot I've ever known. And the hardest part is like we have our iPhones,

like we take a lot of photos, a lot of Snapchats. So I have a bunch of content, but my entire pre-iPhone life was at my parents' house, curated in my time capsule room, all my drawers, every trophy, every, like stuff I want to show my parents, my kids, like my grandpa's stuff, his newspaper clippings, my dad's new, everything just being gone. Like that hurts the most.

Cause my parents didn't get one thing out. Wow. Zero. Not even like a bag with clothes. That's heartbreaking. It's insane. But he's a global pop star. So, you know, like, you know, what a he's.

How are your boys? Thankfully, Gutter has this new friend at school that's very sweet that loves dinosaurs. And this little angel is, you know, they're having a playdate today. That's why we're able to come here and they're gonna do crystals and minerals. So thank God there is this one just like him that's so sweet.

And the school we already got him in had, you know, counselors and principal. And they were all really, like, aware of his situation. So he transitioned really well. It was horrific the other day, just randomly. He had a stick, and he was just drying in the sand, like, his house and, like, his town. Heidi's like, say something.

Like, what am I going to say, Heidi? Like, it's just, like, I don't want to start crying in front of him. Like, I not grown up enough to like, do something. He needs a hug. Sometimes you don't need to say anything. You just need to like, you just need to hold him and validate his feelings, you know? And so we're definitely, you know, dealing with that. So he missed a lot of the trauma, thankfully, he was really sick. And we had him home from school and the school had to evacuate.

And I heard that was really traumatic for a lot of kids because parents were screaming and, you know, having to get their kids and like, let's go. And it was like, really hectic. So at least he missed that. But he misses his life and his school and his friends. And you know, he loved to go, we had the hiking trail and I always made a big deal and he would catch lizards every day. Right? Like that was our

thing. And I always, I'm very big on taking my boys outside. So we had like this private hiking trail that I think he misses the most. And he's worried about all his animal friends and we saw this coyote that we saw every day. I know it's dangerous, but we love this coyote. We didn't feed it. Yeah, Spencer wanted to. I was like, they're rabid.

They will bite. Like what are you? No. A sweet little baby coyote. I didn't feed it. Yeah. So it's interesting with kids because you don't want to like project your feelings on them, but you want to allow him space to have his

and kind of when it's time. And I encourage him to talk to like a new babysitter about it and like, Oh yeah, well, how does that make you feel? Or, you know, just people he can casually bring it up to, you know, and talk about it. But it's definitely really difficult and he's doing a good job transitioning and stuff. But it's a lot for everybody. I'm sure it's hard for him to grasp of just the like, that there's just like his room's gone, all of his toys, I just can't imagine what's going through his head. How old is he? Seven. Seven, yeah.

And it must be just even coming in and obviously having fun and like the excitement about your song and your music and these stories about talking to Pitbull, like, and then reflecting on the tragedy that happened, is it just like an emotional fucking roller coaster of just like insane highs and then insane lows? I mean, like, how do how are you guys managing that emotional roller coaster? Well, I've learned what crashing out means. OK, you know, I always saw it a lot on TikTok.

So I've been crashing out daily. Also, spiraling. I've been spiraling also. So I just feel like it's waves. Like you'll get three emails that'll make you just so like this is our life is so good. And then I'm in a group chat with all my neighbors and they're like, like literally yelling at me, you haven't filled out the debris thing. I'm like, I'm trying to make money to buy a house.

Like I don't care about debris. And they're like, well, we can't clear the debris unless all the things like you can't even comprehend how many neighbors are on these chats. And I'm like the bad guy because I haven't submitted all these forms and codes and this I'm like, why do I need debris move? Why do I have money to build on that? But so it's just this like, oh, it's so exciting. And then rock bottom, just gutter energy. And we have dealt with it differently, like together, but differently. So like Spencer's been on such a high and like high energy and trying to like really rally everyone. He did such an incredible job. And I think that was really

like therapeutic for him to be able to be proactive and provide. And like I hunkered in a little bit more and like was trying to do my part too, but like focusing on the kids and the house and getting them in school and like trying to convince Spencer to sleep. So I haven't been on as high of the highs as Spencer. You know, I'm just more of like, okay, it's exciting and great. And like when things translate into money, I can be more excited, but like not,

I haven't, you know what I mean? So like, yeah, and I get sad and then I'll like pray about it and like let myself go through the emotions, I think a little more from the beginning than Spencer did. So I think for me, I'm actually like able to slowly move forward where I feel like for Spencer now you're feeling it a little more like emotionally than in the beginning, you know, because it's like when you're blocking it out and you're working and you're like digging yourself into work it's like a distraction now it's like uh it just like sets it a little harder. I definitely relate to that we not to make it about us but like we recently now experience a miscarriage. Oh so sorry. And like obviously very emotional for both of us but she like I've been very disconnected and again, trying to just work

and like we talked about it in an episode yesterday and like, I don't like even like, there have been moments where I just feel like it's like hit me, you know, like talking about it where I feel like she's processed it on a more like steady path, you know, where it's just like I've avoided it, I avoid it and I got a message being like, thanks for sharing

and it's just like, like, fuck, it gets to message being like thanks for sharing and it's just like like fuck it gets to you so I get what you're saying you know I'm so sorry you guys no thank you no but anyways about you guys yeah yeah yeah man that's a lot you mentioned Pitbull was a wild conversation you're gonna play it no I just to check and see if I got the new. Yeah, the hard thing with tragedy and being in the spotlight is for me, the reason I've always been open and wanted to share it is because you're going through that pain and there's no right or wrong way to cope with it, but maybe to be able to help someone else not feel so alone in that situation. And like, you guys have each other and we have each other, but some people don't. And so to like, be able to,

sometimes it just helps to hear someone else's story. Right. So it's so hard to do. And I feel like it's really important work if you're willing and like wanting and able to share that because you never know whose life you're really touching. So for you guys anyways, and I can't imagine how hard to share, but you never know who. It was very therapeutic to talk about with each other and like you said, just having each other makes it all the difference in the world. Yeah, that's what I always liked makes it all the difference in the world. Yeah, you know, that's what I always liked about reality TV. And even like yesterday

when we were filming something, I just always felt like it was kind of therapeutic because maybe you're not going to like sit down and have these moments with no phones with no anything and just like sit there and look at someone and be like, okay, and same with like a podcast, it forces kind of these conversations that maybe you're not even realizing each other's feeling, you know, like how I've been feeling. And I haven't been able to really tell Spencer. It's like, it is so sad and devastating, but like my home is Spencer. And like, that's where I feel like happy and comfortable and confident. And like, so wherever Spencer is, that's where I feel like safe and happy. And I was able to like sit down and articulate that to him. And I was like, okay,

yeah, it's so sub. I love our home also so much because that's like where we live and love and raise our family and obviously all the things in and we work so hard. But like my home is Spencer, you know, like that's how I feel. That's how I feel too. Exactly. Same home. Same home. Same roof.

Love you guys. There's no other. But the music's been awesome. Yeah, and you know, I'm starting to finally like actually be more excited about it too because I just had so much going on and you just, you know, things are, the audience is so fickle. And so it just feels like, okay, great.

Everyone's excited then next week. You never know how everyone's going to feel, but it does seem more permanent. Does that make sense? Or like more, I don't know. You're a top 53 Billboard debut. You're in the history books. Yes. Yes. See? It's like, I mean, it doesn't matter

what the audience says in the month or year. The proof is there. You did it, it's permanent. You did it. You did it. I don't understand a lick about the music industry. Other than the fact that like, I think it comes with a lot of judgment

and like almost elitism and like, you have to have certain access and you have to know certain people and if you don't like there's just so many talented musicians period that you just never hear of who never make it and It just feels like this terrible tragedy Allowed you guys to like work through all that nasty bullshit where people have been like, this is like a fucking bop. Like this is a fucking song. The remixes people are doing it with, like people making videos and dancing with it. It's like, it's not hard to enjoy this song

that's been around for a while that people just decided to like stick their nose up at because it was like, oh, it's hiding the treasure from the hell or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Not the gays, shout out the gays. They've been here 15 years, riding for us. So, yeah.

Gays are loyal. So, yeah, shout out the gays. They've been here 15 years, riding for us. Yeah, yeah. Gays are loyal. So. L.G.P. Yeah, I mean, the whole community. Yeah, but now we're worldwide. Now we're mainstream. No, no, now I'm just saying, but. Let's give a shout out.

So yeah, we're 15 number ones international here. But the hardest part in the music industry, which now, thank you God, is play listing. Like when we were looking into like trying to get Heidi's music back in the game, you gotta pay 20,000 a month to, is play listing. Like when we were looking into like trying to get Heidi's music back in the game, you gotta pay 20,000 a month to get these play listing people and maybe, you know, like, no, that ain't happening. But now she's on every major Pandora, Spotify,

Apple music, Amazon, like the hardest. And she's the cover photo, which that's Taylor Swift, that's Sabrina, like there's no other, and that was Heidi. So once I feel like, and she has, I try to keep telling her this, but she's like, whatever, I'm like, it doesn't matter. Like you're locked in. The people sending me records now

are the only people that get these records are Taylor Swift. Like the biggest people in the industry are not only waiving their fee and saying we wanna work with you, but they're not getting behind you. So we've had great music. Imagine if the music gets better because they're here for it.

They want to support it. So I have so much faith in the group project, which is the community pushing Heidi on the entire planet earth. So make sure to get the group project merch on PrattDaddy.com. I guess, and make sure to stream superficial, buy it on iTunes. We'll have all of this in the show notes. We'll get a few, we'll do a few notes.

A couple of few show notes. Thank God she spends it. And then, so yeah, another amazing thing, the angel in the music business that right away after the Hallows' Burn Down reached out and came over this crazy cloud and I just can't even get over it, is Avril Lavigne. Oh wow. So the night of, pretty much, she was like,

anything you need, clothes, wine. And I wrote to her jokingly, like, how about a record? And she's like, I'll come over with wine. And I was like, that's fine. I'm like, we live really far away now. She's like, I'll drive. I was like, okay. So Avril Lavigne came over and drank wine with us.

Brought me three purses. Designer. Of my own closet. Nice bag. So. Sunglasses. She's been just the biggest teammate ever. That's awesome. And if you told me three weeks ago, Avril Lavigne would be one of our best friends,

I'd be like, ha ha ha. So, nah, she is. Did you see all of the safe from Spencer Pratt comments on everyone's? That was more directed to people in my immediate life because, you know, I'm a team player for my whole friend world and all these people, they're real estate,

they're, what are their flower shops. I'm always posting for people and do this. So when everything was happening and all these respectfully civilian randos are posting Heidi's music and people I've grown up with and know and close friends can't just throw it in an IG story. I don't need a real, I don't need a TikTok, but you can't throw Heidi's song in an IG

story. I took that so personally. I know some people in the comments, they should be like, you can't expect things from people. It's like, no, you can actually. If you've put your energy and life and support into somebody, you would expect it to be reciprocal. So those are troll demons that write that. But so initially it was non,

and then it graduated past like my, cause I was going through my contact list, like who has it? And I was like really checking. And then people that likes podcasts I've been on or people that are using my content on their YouTube channel and are monetizing it and still can't after mobile text. Now I'm like, oh, so now I don't need like name names

and is what it is, because she, God willing, will be one of the greatest pop superstars in the world. And I'm gonna remember all these people and they're not gonna be allowed to come to Don Antonio's and have skinny Marguerite a night with us. And so. It was just the easiest thing to do that would make such a difference.

I posted a story before it was like even a thing. And then I did a real, it took me a few days. You did a TikTok. I did a TikTok. You know, people are still catching up. Like JLo wasn't on my list and then JLo did it. Did you see JLo? And she followed Heidi back.

And they DM, hope you recognize she wore a spider dress to go with it. I'm like, I didn't catch it, but Heidi did. JLo don't, she don't have time for nothing. I literally was like, she's wearing a spiderweb dress. I was like, I'm totally making this connection myself cause it's personal. But then when they said that, I was like. Yeah, that's all.

And then of like all the megastars that like just yesterday, David Foster, who I did the Princess of Malwa with, who I know is, he's the original Simon Cowell. He's the biggest hater on the planet, but he was the first person to put Heidi in the recording studio, test all her keys and everything. And he would have said like, get the F out of here. And he's like, oh, you got tone, we can do this.

And he got her her first record deal option with Warner Brothers back in the day. We ended up not doing it because they wanted a 360 deal. But for him to do a post yesterday, listening to the music and doing his finger thing, and I've seen him do the finger thing in the studio with Michael Buble and Celine Dion. Like if you get the David Foster finger like...

Gave up. So I saw that I was like oh that's the exercise because I keep seeing signs from God like to keep me from going nuts you know so they're very helpful. That was a big one yesterday I was like oh wow Fos Man. I was like, oh wow, Foz man. Not to put anyone on the spot, but is there someone that hasn't posted something that you're like, that would be so cool if? I reached out to Britney Spears and I did.

I did reach out to Britney Spears' manager. At this point. Yeah, yeah. If J-Lo is making sure she has the right outfit on. I mean, truly. I was like, and she dances a lot. Like, it's like, just she has the right outfit on. I mean, truly. She dances a lot. Like, it's like, just mix it into the playlist here. It could be with nads or without.

Yeah, yeah. And it's all be your blonde tonight. And she has blonde hair a lot of the time. So that one, I was like, oh, OK. So not Brit yet. Who else? I've DMed a lot of people. Obviously emailed Taylor Swift right away.

That was night one. How did you get her email? Well, I mean, this is the email. You have the email. This one is getting read. So it's not getting read. It's getting read. If you don't get a response, that's also a response.

She could have something in the works for you. She's mixing currently. I think she's just gonna have Heidi be involved with Like the rep announcement somehow, you know We can have come out on stage like we'll have an Easter egg for everybody or something So I'm still having given up hope on that one, but that was a big one night one I was like our house just burned down Taylor You have no reason not to dream as big as possible.

So I keep telling you, like I'm at zero and I had a hustle when I had things and I was still like an insane hustler and I had like my jeans and you know, I keep saying all my charging cables, rebuying charging cables is torture. And so expensive. Oh yeah.

The fact that you, if any, I had to go to the Apple store this weekend and my house didn't burn down. I did get an Apple. They're like, here's an Apple. Like, I was like, thank you. 15% off. I was like, I already bought them. Like I need to hustle.

I can't have a dead phone. Yeah. I think that's the misconception. What so many people think it's like we have been in this industry, you know, feast or famine for years and it's mostly been famine, you know, and we like make that last in between and we hustle really hard

and I have like the Chanel bag from 15 years ago or whatever, you know, that I couldn't buy now or whatever, like my one pair of Golden Goose shoes that I bought four years ago, or you know, it's um, they were like the only pair of shoes I grabbed. Uh, but, um, yeah, it's just so many of the things we at this moment can't replace and work so hard to have like the nice knives that we got like once a year, like these little things. We just paid to have them sharpened.

I do like our knife collection. I just paid to have each oneed. I do like, probably like our knife collection, I just paid to have each one sharpened. For the first time in 10 years. I was digging in the rubble yesterday, just looking for like one knife. I was like, could one knife have survived? It's like, they go through the hot fire. It's metal, yeah, come on.

You know, like a sheen, like ting ting ting. I was like, no. At least the blade. And also, for anyone in the Palisades, and you see my content, do not do what I have been doing. Don't go into your rubble in shorts. Do not not wear a mask. Really stupid.

So like don't do it. I've been to wear the white outfit. You see that looks ridiculous. A lot of toxic stuff. My legs have been burning for days now. I said to Spencer yesterday, I'm like, don't go down there or like, and he's like, oh no, the firemen are down here without masks

or whatever. But you don't think of it at first. No, I said it. I literally said it. I was like, don't, just don't do that. Yeah. I was like. Sometimes we can listen.

They had pants on. I was like, all right. It's the shorts. Well, I was not planning on like doing anything where, and then I like stepped on one thing and went like, poof, and like all of it. So I was like, oh no, like out of a horror movie. So that was.

It's weird going back though what I didn't anticipate was not wanting to leave it's like a weird yeah it's like a weird you still see your life there yeah it's all in ash yeah it's weird because it's still like feels like home but it's not so you like don't want to you know? That's why I spent like four hours digging up shattered crystals. Yeah, I see why now. They're all here. I see why, I see how.

You know, cause I was like, man, how are you there? Like, it's so devastating, but you're like, okay, can I like put a tent up there? You know, you just kind of like, it's this weird calling still to you. It's like a part of your soul. Yeah. I mean, we lived like during the hills directly across from the house that burned down, our

house that we lived on in during all of the hills was across the street from the house we ended up at that we... So we technically have two houses of all of our memories that burned down. So when people thought we were living in the Hollywood Hills in that little Kirsten apartment, like we lived in the Palisades and we commute to Hollywood every day because the Palisades has been such part of my life and became Heidi's life. So you walk out of our burnt house

and you look at our burnt house in front of it and it's like two different of our eras, as Taylor would say, is gone. Hey, Taylor. Taylor, email back. I lost all the gifts you sent me. And you guys are fighting back, or is that right? This is my favorite thing, and I don't want to get into it.

But the day this all went down, I'm already getting legal stuff involved. So now, with a new president, now it's like propaganda and it's not political. I don't care who's in the office, what party, da da da da, like I'm gonna sue whoever is responsible for us not having our house and life. So that was the one thing that has been getting a little annoying on social.

People were like attaching this to like. I mean, everything gets pulled out. Yeah, but it's like, no, it's not. We just don't have a house and we want accountability and we want the truth to see if people made mistakes. I mean, it's the thing. It's like, you know, your boy Brody was here and we were talking about it. And it's just like, yes, this is a terrible tragedy.

Sadly fires happen every year in California. And yeah, we understand that those winds that night were terrible, but like it was always going to be bad. But the question is did it need to be as horrific as it was? And there seems to be several examples when you hear stories that maybe it didn't need to be this fucking bad.

We all pay taxes, we know what that check looks like, where's that fucking money going? Why don't we have a fleet of scooper scoopers? We have this shit every year Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, don't get me pumped up So, uh, what's so weird about life is back to the night shopping for that wedding for the hugo boss stuff I was a groomsman in the wedding like a week before and My best friend growing up who in college long story short like I saved his life and his dad friend growing up who in college, long story short, I saved his life and his dad treats me like a son and he's like the smartest lawyer in the world and he just beat Edison for 400

houses in the Woosley case. And I'm talking to him about how Edison had 20 lawyers against him and his small firm, it's just him and whatever, blah, blah, blah. And he put up all of his own money for everyone. It was like 6 million and he risked it, blah, blah, blah. And I jokingly say to Heidi, man, how cool would it be to have Peter McNulty be your lawyer? So a week and a half later, our house burned down and now we're the lead plaintiffs for Peter McNulty as our lawyer because not only that, our next door neighbor is who my friend married the daughter. So it's not just about me, it's like his son's wife's family house

burned down next door to us. Like I was on the hill watching the fire come down with her dad till the last minute. So when people are like, oh, so money, like this is not like a money, this is like, these people are emotionally invested in this outcome, so. Is the goal to try to build back if that's if that's possible

I mean if it doesn't even we don't do we know if it's possible yet or like what's the plan there? I mean if you get on this group chat that's yelling at me about debris removal there They're ready to start building. Okay. I'm holding back the whole block right now. I think everyone is Extremely motivated to rebuild the Palisades as quickly as possible. Every friend I know has lost their house. Everybody is desperate for that community. And you know, it really is. And what Spencer continues to say is like his parents,

all these people, they bought their house 50 years ago, 30 years ago. So the prices just recently increased to be millions of dollars, but they were like, you know, which was still expensive, but like 200,000, 300,000, 50 years ago, 30 years ago. So the prices just recently increased to be millions of dollars, but they were like, which was still expensive, but like 200,000, 300,000. And most of these people can't rebuild. So not only is a settlement for, it's for the town,

it's for people who can't rebuild and can't afford it. At this point, we can't afford to rebuild our house. So we also need to, and that's why we're hustling so hard. It's like, all point, we can't afford to rebuild our house. You know, so we also need to, and that's why we're hustling so hard. It's like, all right, we'll get the debris removed and then see how hard we can hustle and how much of the house we can rebuild. And you know, how are we gonna do that?

How is everyone in this town gonna do that? Well, Heidi's going on tour, international tour. That's what Spencer keeps saying, like, I can't take the kids out of school. There's 14 countries they wanna see you because you're number one there. Has Andy Cohen apologized to you? No, I think he did a dismissal of an apology

a few years ago and then he reset it, something else horrific again recently. And I was just like, I've never met you, I don't even know you, I don't talk about you. If I really don't know, like he called you trash or something? Yeah, and then he also said he rather. Which is like one of the worst things you. I don't even know you. I don't talk about you. Yeah, for those who don't know, like he called you trash or something. Yeah, and then he also said he rather. Which is like one of the worst things

you could say to a woman. Right. But you know what, I've seen a few things he's said about other women, and I'm kind of like, who is talking to people like that? How is this allowed, like, publicly and acceptable? He was almost gone, so we'll see how. I've always loved Andy, I got to meet him a few times,

I've always very much respected what he does. I'm sure he would kiss your ass as the Bachelor. I'm sure he's real nice to you. Hello, ABC star. I hope that he writes this wrong. I don't care. I'm not holding my breath, it doesn't matter. It's just like these other people that didn't shout out.

We got JLo, you know. Okay. We're going to the whole new level. I mean, I'm trying to get the new, I'm about to give you the premiere of the Pitbull right here. So is Pitbull making a mix? What is he doing? So they have a remix coming out.

Okay. And I'm waiting for the final master to upload so that it can start streaming. And I'm texting every the final master to upload so that it can start streaming. And I'm texting every second like hurry up. Cause the guy that's mixing it has 17 Grammys. So he isn't in the speed I am obviously. He's operating on his 17 Grammys time. It's like, he doesn't even, I keep calling like hello again

to his voicemail, he's not picking up. But yeah, so that's God willing going to go number one globally. Cause people has 57 million monthly listeners. So like this whole thing about, and he's going to drop it on his. Yeah. It's just going to be a dual, like a primary artist collapse. So it comes through both of this. Like, is this what you were talking about recently where you were like a huge.

No, that's even some different. That's even that's not bigger. Not bigger, but it's different because those are us, a different kind of music. And for them to send a record, that's actually as big or not bigger because people is just a global superstar. And now he's on a high worldwide. There you go. And so he's on a record with the. Worldwide. There you go. And so he's on a record with that,

but the one that was sent, who sent that, and like that's just, no, people will be like, no, that didn't happen. But I can't say, they literally told me, we'll take it away if you say it. Oh my God, I'm read. Okay. I know, it's so hard for Spencer

dealing with all these superstars, and they're like, but you can't talk about it. He's like, oh, you know, because he's so used to like wanting to talk about everything and like, so hiding it. There's two things that I'm, two different things right now that I'm having to keep a secret that are just like.

Well, Pitbull was one of them. For a minute they were like, don't say anything. Yeah, but then his manager texted me and was like, you do whatever you want. You kill it the whole game. Don't listen to any of these labels. Like, he's like, you run in the show. I'm like, so right then I'm at the coffee shop,

Pitbull tees. So you got some for us? I mean, any second, any second, He's like, you runnin' the show. I'm like, so right then I'm at the coffee shop, pit bull tea, sir. Like, 10 seconds. You got something for us? I mean, any second, any second. I'm gonna, let me call him for a plan. Refresh, refresh, refresh. How is parent life for you guys? Awesome.

It's the best. She turns one on Sunday. Oh my gosh. She took her first steps a couple days ago. That's so big. She's starting to walk. Who did she walk to? How did that happen?

She walked to me, my mom was like thank God recording, so we got it on video, which I was always scared to watch. She's pretty obsessed with Natalie. Oh. She likes me fine. We're definitely connecting more and more. Like every time I come home, ta-da! It's pretty great.

Yeah, it is. I feel like she'll see her favorite sound. Yeah, it's the best. But like she is truly obsessed with Natalie and like in the best possible way. It's like she lights. Yeah, it's the best. But she is truly obsessed with Natalie in the best possible way. It's like she lights up. But it's definitely called Baby Steps for a reason because they are very like, eek, eek, eek.

Yeah. Yeah, it's that time where you're like, the table, the this, you know what I'm saying? So you just be like, get rid of all the furniture. I'm like, I'm not getting rid of all the furniture because the baby's learning to walk. We can't do that. Yeah, do you have individual, have you fantasized

about places you would want to perform live? Well, I was offered Madison Square Garden with somebody and I was like, okay, I think I'll do that one. Fuck yeah. Yeah, so I was like, that was definitely a dream to do that. Is that anytime soon? When should we book our tickets? I should look at, it's someone who's going on tour

and it's one of their tour dates. And the person was like, you can take any date that you want. Just please let us know. Okay, okay. We would like to be there. Okay, but I was like, I need to start like practicing. Like that's a lot to rehearse.

When was the last time you sang live? I did it with Mal Forever, like Mike's on with the track a few weeks ago or whatever like few months ago I guess. You got it. You ready to go? How close do I put it? Put it on top? Let's uh how do you want to? Oh let's have the star. Can we announce this? Okay hi this is Heidi Montag and you are listening to my new exclusive track with Pitbull, I'll Do It. Oh my god! Oh, this part's great. Oh Oh my God, it's insane! My jaw's on the floor so good!

It's so good. So Yestray had to go in the studio and do the ad libs. So he's really into charity and he was like, you know, I don't publicly do a lot of things, but I always make sure to, you know, privately, he's like very immersed and you know, a lot of things. So and he's very inspiring. He's a very inspiring human being. That is crazy.

That is so good. He told me how to text Pitbull for approval and stuff. I would have been like, that's what I keep saying to Heidi. If there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel, like if these aren't signs, like we went into a new dimension, it's a very weird upside down world like that Netflix show, you know, like, but there's so much insane positivity that there has to be something so good coming up that we will have the power to help all of our friends and family

have a bigger platform because that's what just keeps me going. There's no way these things aren't happening. Like somebody that told me they were like in a coma, this was like a week ago, they called me, I have another number, like I was in a coma. And when I came out of the coma, I thought, like I'm misquoting them obviously, like why did God do this in their quote or whoever? They were like, God didn't bring you this far to bring you this far. I was like, okay, like let's go, you know? So that's where I'm just like, we just went, you know,

we've been obviously we've been unfamous for a long time, but we were peak famous. The energy that's connected to this is so powerful and loving that it's like, feels like anything is possible. So it's just like a different frequency, like a vibration. We were famous in like a low vibration before, where it's like, now people are like asking for hugs

and like crying on me. Like I'm like, it's crazy. Are you a hugger? I have now, I'm all alone. No, he's not a kisser, hugger, toucher. Now I'm hugging strangers. He's a germaphobe. I don't even care anymore. Contact dermatitis. I'm all in now. He'll never go camping, he needs pristine sheets. I'll hug any hugs. I mean it's really been life-changing. That's what I mean. So it's like, again, you know, it's a hard thing mentally, because you're like, would I trade just to have my lazy boy back and sitting and watching my hummingbirds?

Or, but then I'm like, obviously there's something so much greater that it's gonna take, you know, like. Something else. And a lot of like crystal energy people, I love deep diving them on TikTok. They said, since we had like 2000 crystals in this house and 3000 pound ones that like,

when all the crystals exploded and shatter, like all the like love and energy we put into the house with them, with the magical hummingbirds, like just made like a portal that we went through. I mean, you can get deep dive mics. Yes, yeah, In that portal. So, but I think Heidi is a radio tour pop star herself. But yeah, that's so exciting. That's done. Yeah. That's been a hectic two weeks. Let me tell you, cause dealing with this superstar too.

There's it's a lot more than just me. He's like, I want to ad lib here. So we had to go to the recording studio yesterday, drive it in, like add the ad libs. People wanted in the remix on those, hey, hey. Yeah, and I haven't done those ad libs in so many years. I was actually really nervous about doing them. I was like, what if I'm not as good as I was then? And so then, yeah.

Get the ad libs, honey. I know, I know. So I did, and so I was really happy to be able to, I was just like, that text just took the pressure of my life off. But it is crazy. I'm sure like, eventually you'll be giving this same chance to someone in the future, you know, like you'll be the crazy big pop star superstar that they're having to deal with, you know, like they're waiting on your time.

I hope to God. Please God. Yeah, but it does show you how like when people react towards you, what's so helpful to be able to give something like that back, like you're saying, you know, so it, and we have always been really big on like, helping anyone around us in any capacity. Like Spencer said, our friends, anything, you know? And so it's really been different to like receive that because I feel like for Spencer and I both, we kind of have a hard time receiving. We're both like such, take this and take that and what can we do for you? So it's been really crazy too to like learn to

just like accept help and accept things. It's a weird thing. It sounds like in life, you know, but it is like, okay. All right. The coolest part about this whole experience in the last week is, so like last time we guys talked to you, we were talking about Heidi was being in China and the music was blowing up.

So that's why we started working on new songs. So the best part about all this is all the new songs that just came out on Superficial 2, Heidi Wood, are all the new, youngest, hottest, writer, producers, talented people that took a risk by giving us their best record when Heidi wasn't a global pop superstar. And now they're getting so much attention

and getting playlists that they would never be on. I mean, not right now, maybe in a couple of years, but they're all like 23, 20. Obviously, we could only get the young up and coming top people, but they're getting a lot of eyes on them because they're so talented. So that's been cool because they took a leap of faith. So that's been, it may not be like Heidi's just pop but still that is kind of happening right now and they're so excited and you know posting the screen recordings on their stories in the comment section of just like everyone loving their songs and it just like you guys have become force multipliers you know like there's a lot of really dope people

connected to Heidi which now are gonna like now the amount of records, now everyone's like, like we just got a new song yesterday that they wrote just about the fires for Heidi. And it's, if it doesn't win a Grammy, then I'm gonna agree with some of these other people that may be rigged. So, but I think it will. All right.

I love you guys. Thank you for taking the time. I know life's been crazy for you, obviously both with the tragedy and all the success you guys are experiencing, but it's been so great to catch up with you. Thanks for being inspirational. Thanks for being such a great example

of what a husband and wife should be to each other in a time of need. And really, I love you guys. I love what you guys stand for. And we are here to have you guys back and ride for you guys. And just watch you guys like get love what you guys stand for. And we are here to have you guys back and ride for you guys. And just watch you guys like get all the way to the top. So does that mean,

cause I know we talked about it before, if we get a reality show, you guys will be on it and go on double dates and stuff. I was just about to ask that. All cameo. Not a cameo, reoccurring. Reoccurring, reoccurring. Reoccurring, friend of trust.

We had a horrible commitment. Yeah, last time. Can we just like, like I said, you know, it gets one of those things, like we just, nothing matters more to us than us, you know? So like, if it's for friends supporting friends and you know, we're like... We don't need drama for you guys. This is a fun show, we're talking, imagining. We would love to double date. We would love to support you guys.

We've got to build out a cast here pretty soon. Producer has to answer. I mean, I will say this, I miss being good TV. All right, there we go. You know, it's something deep in you that you can never get rid of. I just know how to do it, you know? I know, it's just in your blood.

Give it to him. I know. Give it to him. It's like riding a bike. Gonna have to make some phone calls after this. Push these networks a little bit. Got a ringer. Got Nick. Got a ringer.

Got a ringer. Well, I love you guys. I wish you nothing but more success and happiness. And please, well, plug, plug. Tell them, like, let's plug. Let's get really serious here. So Heidi right now is in the Billboard charts. And I've learned all this in the last week.

To continue getting to number one in the Billboard charts, it's a journey. And on this journey, we need sales. If you can buy physical music on iTunes Store, that's great. If you can't, that's great too. Use YouTube music if it's free. Stream Heidi's All Do It music video, which Lil Nas just put on his IG story this morning,

and I'm gonna misquote him, but I'm pretty sure he says, "'She's taking everything.'" Something like, it was mage. So he's enjoying the music video, so that was great. Spotify, if you're on a Spotify playlist and you're listening to music, click the three little dots and share it out of the playlist

because that teaches the algorithm that this needs to move up in the playlist. If you're in Apple Music, add to your playlist. So don't just be listening to it, make sure it's added to your library. Deezer, Amazon Music, anything that has music, like Pandora, Shazam, your radio station. If you have a local radio station,

you have all radio matters. So they've been playing high down the radio because people are calling, they're DMing, they're in the comment section and it's making a difference. So if you're on an app, use the reels, use the YouTube short sound, use the TikTok sound. All of this encompasses getting number one on Billboard, which God willing we do, that's a wrap.

I don't know why I didn't video that. That should have been a TikTok. We'll make a video. Okay. We got it. We got you. Uh-uh. There you go.

I mean, I could keep going, but, you know, also buy the vinyl. Spencer's telling everybody buy the music. Buy the music. We'll see you guys next week. We didn't get to Beverly Hills or Southern Hospitality. Honestly, Beverly Hills was kind of slow this week. We'll pick it up guys next week. We didn't get to Beverly Hills or Southern Hospitality. Honestly, Beverly Hills was kind of slow this week. We'll pick it up all next week.

Thank you to our guests, Olivia Holt and Heidi and Spencer. See you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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