The Viall Files - E918 - Coachella, Liza Treyger, Million Dollar Secret w/ Cara, Kenya v Brit, Summer House & SNL v Aimee Lou

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  We’ve got another jam packed episode today as we’re joined by the hilarious Liza Treyger to get into Summer House, RHOA, crazy customer service experiences, fighting for her life in the comments, and more! Later, the winner of Million Dollar Secret, Cara Kies, joins us to tell us about her life post-show. Meanwhile, we give thoughts on Coachella instagram posts, Aimee Lou Wood’s beef with SNL, Katy Perry going to space, and more! You will definitely want to listen

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Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and we didn't go to Coachella this weekend. We did not. I didn't have any ounce of FOMO, I'll be honest. Me neither. Nope. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I really didn't.

It was interesting because we were there last year. We were there last year. We brought the whole team, right? We took a little team field trip. We got to meet Swartz's new girlfriend. Are they still hanging out? Are they together? As far as I know, yes. As of a couple months ago,

yeah, they were still together. Okay, all right, yeah. Well, we interviewed Swartz and his new girlfriend. Yeah, it was a fun weekend, but yeah, it was like, it's really crazy to think how much changes in a year. Truly. How much, like, just's really crazy to think how much change is in a year. Truly. How much, like, just thinking about this time last year. And we even had, like, we had River.

So it wasn't like, oh my God, like, now we have a child. But like, River, that's when she learned, it made me think about, that's when we discovered the pack and play, remember? Not the pack and play, it was the kick and play. What's the difference? The Fisher price. Where she laid on her back and she could kick the piano. Yeah, that was game changing.

That was game changing. She loved it. I do have a gripe with everyone at Coachella this year, though, I will say. Everyone. Well, everyone that I follow, because they don't stop with the Instagram story posts. They don't stop, which is fine. Post your content, I get it.

I want to see it. I'm sitting in bed, I'm scrolling. But you're going to record Lady Gaga's hit song, Alejandro, and only post the intro? Like these people are only posting like the most random clips of these songs. And it's like, if you're gonna post someone's set on Instagram, you better put the chorus.

You better put the most banging part of the song. Yeah. Because if I'm trying to sing it, I'm in bed, I'm trying to sing along, and it cuts off right before the beat drops, I'm pissed. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I'm thinking now, I'm pretty sure I've definitely never given that any thought.

Well. I'm definitely up there just recording, not really thinking about the type of song. If I'm posting from a concert, I'm so specific about exactly which clip I'm gonna post from the concert. Same. Yeah, in reality,

nobody really wants to see your shaky concert video, so it's like, you're just saying you're there. So you really want it to be a good part of the song and try to get good quality if you're trying to. The live streams do exist for a reason. Exactly. I will say, I did watch the Brad live stream. What if it's just like the entrance, like, you know, when the artist comes out for the first time.

That's fine, but you have to then post again them singing like an iconic song. You know? If you're going to post, I want to see Gaga with the skeleton singing Zombie Boy. Yes, of course. This started when I saw friend of show, Kelsey Anderson post Lady Gaga intro to Alejandro. And it's like- You coming for Kelsey?

Well, that's what made me think of it. And then the more I kept scrolling, she was my first person on my Instagram stories. The more I kept going, everyone was doing it. And I was like, no, what is happening? All Kelsey posted was that, I never wanna feel like this anymore, Alejandro. And then was doing it. And I was like, no, what is happening? All Kelsey posted was that, I never wanna feel like this anymore, Alejandro. And then that was it, and her story was over.

And it went to like a picture of the clouds. And I was like, no, Kelsey, keep going. She wanted you to increase that FOMO, you know? It didn't give me FOMO, that's the thing. I had 0% FOMO, I just wanted to like be in bed, be cozy, have my skincare done, be breathing like fresh air, right? And be able to just like sing along and like do a little shoulder shrug in bed.

And I couldn't do that. I'm with Kelsey. What? You're against me? Because here's the thing. If you want, no, not against you, against the concept. Because if you want the performance, that's what the livestream is for.

These people want to experience the actual climax of the song themselves. So they're giving you a moment and they're experiencing it. They're edging. They are content creators. But have you seen the clips even from the audience? Like when I was going to Coachella, everyone was dancing, having fun, laying in the grass. Everybody's just standing there with their phones up.

So it's like, what are you recording? Like I said, watch the live stream, let them live in the moment. An incredible performance. Who's filming the live stream? I wouldn't even know where to access the live stream. I watch the live stream, YouTube. YouTube.

You can see all the performances. But who records the live stream? Is it just someone in the audience, or is it like a professional? Professional, HD. Yeah, they're up on a scaffolding recording. All angles, better it just someone in the audience or is it like a professional? Professional, HD. Yeah. Yeah, they're like up on a scaffolding, like recording. All angles, better angles than being in the audience. Yeah.

But even though, remember they didn't do one for Frank Ocean that one year? Well, he came out like 40 minutes later. Didn't he mail it in? Then he quit or something. So funny. Yeah, he was like supposed to have like an ice skating rink and whatnot on his performance.

And then like, it didn't work out. At Macy and Madeline's event in New York, the SYNC show, we met someone who works for Frank Ocean and I was like, oh, that's so cool. And he was like, yeah, he hasn't done anything in a while. I'm like, he really hasn't. Like, what actually, what do you do for him if you work for him?

What are you doing? Cause he's not doing much. He's still on the payroll? I guess, I don't know. Hmm, okay. But when Frank Ocean does do something, boy does he do it. Boy does he do it, that is very true.

But I guess... Also, Natalie, you wouldn't have FOMO if you saw people waiting three hours for a shower, 12 hours to get into their campsite. Like fireworks blowing up in the artist area. Like this is too much. I don't care how aesthetic you make your tent. There's no world in which I can sit for 10 hours to get into a camping spot, to go to a festival all day.

And it was 113 degrees the first day. Power doesn't work either. First of all, I forget that people camp at Coachella because it is like the most thing I would never wanna do. I mean, camping in general. I've never wanna do it ever in my life, but to do it at Coachella with all that dust, in that heat, with all those people.

You're bringing your stuff there. How do you lock up your tent? Are you not concerned about people stealing things? I read somewhere that they're just concerned to try to just afford the tickets in the first place. Some crazy number, I don't know, maybe, Leia, you can look this up, but 60 or 70 or a large percentage of people who bought their Coachella tickets bought them bottom, like on layaway, like on credit.

65 to 70%. 65%, like they didn't like just like, here's. How much is your standard GA Coachella ticket? It's around like 400, right? I was gonna say, it used to be 375 back when I was going. Oh my God. 400 bucks for every day. General admission starts around $600.

General admission. Yeah, general admission 600, VIP 1200. 65% of people are going can't afford it and they're paying unpaid plans. I doubt that they're gonna get it for 700. I'm sure that as people do for this stuff, they'll resale the ticket masters of it all buy them all out from Coachella comm and then resell them for so much more Maybe think when was the last when was the last time you bought something?

Where you like truly couldn't afford it like you were just like I want this so fucking bad And I I'm just gonna buy it and I have no business buying this right now. Do you remember? What did you say, Lea? Yesterday. Yesterday? I bought a Dyson Airwrap yesterday. No business. Is that why your hair looks so flippy? It was on sale.

Lea, I bought Nellie the Dyson Airwrap like three or four years ago. She hasn't used it once. Well, maybe that's not true. She used it once after I bought it for her, after I just it for her, after I just scoured the heavens and the earth because this was at a time where everyone was buying it

and you couldn't find it. Listen, there's an art to it. They're hard to figure out how to work. And my hair does not look good with a lot of volume. I know someone, a troll once told me my hair was super flat. Well, guess what? I like it that way. And it looks beautiful.

No, I mean, I spent 700 bucks on it and then went home. I was all excited to use it. And I was like, wait, my hair looks horrible. I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, I'm gonna have to go watch a bunch of YouTube videos. You look like a woman from the 1950s. I don't know if that's my right hair. Are you gonna keep it?

I'll teach you how to use it. Please teach me. Well, I'm gonna keep it. I monogrammed it. Who was the last time you bought something? They monogrammed it? They crammed it? I monogrammed it. You monogrammed it. When was the last time you bought something you couldn't afford? They monogrammed it? They crammed it? I monogrammed it.

You monogrammed your air wrap? What did you put on there? Yeah. Just my name. Was this to make sure you couldn't return it? I went to support because it was on sale. How much did that? Leia.

You know what? Like to make sure no one is still there. It was pretty monogrammed. There's a thing like this is my air wrap. No one's gonna get confused. Well, your hair looks great, Leia. It was great. Thank you. Did you do it this morning?

Aw, yesterday. Okay, sure. It is extra flippy. I carried. It's like, it's like day old. You also got a haircut. I did. That's crazy that you went from like,

yeah, let me chop my hair off and like, oh, I also need a Dyson Airwrap to curl this short hair. Yeah, that's what I told Sierra. I was like- I don't know how many people look good with a Dyson Airwrap short bob. I don't know, maybe it's like. I don't know how many people look good with a Dyson Airwrap short bob. I don't know. Maybe it's just because I don't know how to do it.

No, no, that's exactly where I went wrong. Yeah, that was a crazy decision. If it makes you feel any better, I didn't notice anything. I don't know if that makes me feel better. Danny didn't either. Well, in case you don't like the outcome, I'm just here to say you look great.

Do we think Katie? Wait, Natalie, what's something that you thought? The first time I ever went to LA, I went with my sister and my niece and a family friend. Our family friend works with animals on sets, movie sets, make sure the animals are being properly cared for and whatever. Oh.

Yeah, so she was working in LA on some set of something and me, my sister, and my niece all came to visit her. I was fresh out of a relationship of two years and was broke, had zero money to my name. And we went to LA and my sister usually like would take care of me, pay for everything, whatever. But we go to Rodeo Drive and I was like, well, I have to buy something. Like I want Rodeo Drive. So I buy a Gucci purse. Well, I try to buy something. Like I'm on Rodeo Drive. So I buy a Gucci purse.

Well, I try to buy a Gucci purse. I still have it. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it just because it's like, this is my first. And I went to swipe my card and she was like, oh, it's declining. And so I like looked at my bank account and I was $200 short.

So I like text my ex-boyfriend at the time. And I'm like, hey, I need $200 trying to So I like text my ex boyfriend at the time and I'm like, Hey, $200 trying to buy this purse. And he's like at work. I'm like calling them. Like you have to take a break because I'm at the checkout. Like they're waiting on me. I have a line behind me. I need $200. I have to get this purse. He's like, Natalie, we broke up. I'm like, I don't care. I need it. And he sends me $200 and I had four different forms of payment and bought this Gucci purse.

And the rest of the time my sister was like, she got a purse with no money in it. I was like, you're right. I was so lucky. Do you still have that purse? Yeah, I do, I'll never get rid of it. Mine was when I was in college. It was my, my last year of college, my fifth year.

I was one college, it was my, my last year of college, my fifth year. Yeah, I was one of those guys. My fifth year of college, this is gonna date me, but I bought a high definition television, a 50 inch high definition television, but this is a flip phone era. Keep in mind, flip phones exist at this point, not Apple phones. But like, and I spent my entire-

I don't wanna live in that world. What? I don't wanna live in that world. I? I don't wanna live in that world. Yeah, and I spent my entire like semester of student aid on this TV. I decided to just get a high definition TV, which was when those TVs were like big houses, you know, that it was like a whole,

like you know what I'm saying, it was like, it wasn't like a lightweight thin TV, it was basically a whole box. And we drove down to Chicago to pay for it. And I was so obsessed with this TV that, again, because I didn't have an iPhone, I remember being in class in college with printouts of my TV that I was gonna buy,

just looking at the printout of my TV in some English class. That is so embarrassing, what? And this is before, and then I bought the TV only to then realize that even though I bought a high definition TV, most things back then weren't broadcasted in high definition. So I spent my entire.

To still watch some grainy ass TV. So it wasn't even broadcasted in high definition. Did not know this at the time, but I was very excited. But I think this, you know, I think it's because of the trauma I had around TVs, because my freshman year of college, mine and my roommate's TV was so, like I don't even know where we got the TV,

we like found it, someone would like got rid of it, and neither of us had a TV, because usually back then it was like, well, do you have a TV? I have a toaster, and it's like, yeah, do you have a TV? I have a toaster. And it's like, yeah, sure. I'll bring my toaster, we'll use your TV. Well, neither of us had TVs.

And we got the shitty tube TV, like, you know, this big walkie, like it was from like the seventies or whatever. And it was so shitty that we couldn't turn it off. So we left it on in our dorm room all semester long and put like a blanket over it. To go to bed? Just so we could go to bed.

And at the end of the semester, we threw it out the window and broke it. We did also have, we forgot to mention this, my brother and sister-in-law with their two dogs came to visit us to, my brother is like a woodworker and does like construction type stuff. So he helped with some house projects two dogs came to visit us to, my brother is like a woodworker and does like construction type stuff. So he helped with some house projects

and they brought their two dogs. One of which was the dog that I got with an ex-boyfriend. Same ex-boyfriend. The same ex-boyfriend who came in the $200. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We also got a dog together. We got a mini Australian Shepherd. His name is Leo and beautiful, beautiful, right?

And he like held him hostage when we broke up. It was this whole thing. You know, we all had a nasty relationship, you know, I've talked about it before. Anyways, well, when I finally got out of the relationship, I lived in my car for a while. So I didn't take Leo, cause I was like, I'm living in my car.

Like, I can't take this dog. He also wouldn't allow me to take the dog. So then I was so sick, I went to go see my brother-in-law, who's a doctor, and he was like, whoa, you're like, you're skinny as hell, baby, why you look like this? That's how he talks. And I was like, I was like, I'm going through a breakup, and he was like, you're coming to live with us.

So I moved in with my sister, Amanda, on her farm, and she was like, bring Leo here, like he'll be fine. So I bring him here, long, long, longest story ever. He ends up in the care of my brother and my sister-in-law. Longest story ever. We don't need to shade anybody, but that is where he is now, currently in the hands of my brother and sister-in-law.

Well, River is now, she met him at Thanksgiving, but now she's like, loves dogs. She knows how to like pet dogs the right way. She knows how to play with dogs. And to see the two of them together was so sweet. It was like my first baby and my first baby, you know? Like it was really sweet. Like I have a video of them where he's just sitting

and he's just sitting and he's like looking at me and she just is going up to him and like hugging him and like leaning in and giving him kisses. It was so sweet. And she actually can say, we call him Lily. And she was saying Lily. It was really cool.

It's really sweet. They're really in our nesting era right now. We're just, we're just, we're nesting all over but we are nesting for sure. Why are we nesting? What do you mean? You nest when you're like pregnant and you're like about to have a baby.

Oops. I just feel like we're staying at home a lot. You're chilling. Chilling. I feel that. That's how I felt when I found out that Coachella was this weekend. I genuinely had no idea.

And I was sitting there on the couch on Friday being like, what did, this weekend? Traffic's so chill. Missed nothing, yes. It's beautiful. Missed nothing. Happy to sit's beautiful. Missed nothing. Happy to sit at home on my couch and be like, nah, I don't really need to watch any of your hotel content.

Did it feel- I watched old Beverly Hills Housewives. Did River not feel like your first born in that moment? I mean- Did you feel like you birthed Leo? I do feel like I birthed Leo. I feel like he's like my child who I like had to, you know, I was too young.

I had to put him up for adoption, you know? And like I finally find him again and like we reunite. And it like, he doesn't forget me, which is so, anyone who thinks like dogs forget them, they don't. He like, it's so excited when we see each other and he- He definitely confirmed that. He definitely remembers Natalie for sure. It's so sweet, so.

A sweet reunion. It was a sweet reunion. Did y'all see Katy Perry finally went to space? Like this morning, I heard like a woohoo. Is she backall see Katy Perry finally went to space? Like this morning. I heard like a woohoo. Is she back? It lasted 11 minutes. She's back.

And Gail King. Okay, Gail. I just feel like people are forgetting Gail. The photo shoots they had going into space, I was like crazy. Gail looked like. Face tuned, but like in a good way. Gail looked like she was regretting her decision

to go on that flight. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I would be super excited up until they're like, all right, get on the rocket. And I'm like, I think I'm good. It's just crazy. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's just crazy to me that they really did that

in the morning show. Wait, wait, wait, let me think about it. It's like you're about to like skydive. Like wait, wait, I need a countdown. I can't do it. Yeah. Start over, start over. It's crazy that they literally-

I think I'd rather go to Coachella. Do you think Katy Perry knew? Do you think she knew that the flight takeoff was the same weekend as Coachella 1? And do you think she was like, fuck. That's why she didn't show up. Oh. Yeah, she had a one-up.

She had a one-up. Because it's a, there's a lot of, were there any fun celebrity sightings? I don't, Justin Bieber went. I did see that- He seemed to be all right. I did see Stormi Webster was there watching her dad, Travis Scott, set, which was really cool. She was on the shoulders of someone watching her dad,

which I think is so cool. Patrick Schwarzenegger was there supporting his co-star. Lisa. Lisa. She a DJ? No, she's part of Blackpink, but she was doing her solo. She's a solo artist. She was doing her solo. Trixie Mattel DJed. We saw Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet. Did you get DJ? No, she's part of Blackpink, but she was doing her solo. She's a solo artist. She was doing her solo.

Trixie Mattel DJed. We saw Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet. People were criticizing Hailey Baldwin for driving Justin Bieber and his friends around. Did you see that? I did see that. What do you mean driving? She was driving a golf cart.

Like, God. But she was in the frenzy by her- Leave this person alone. It's like, you know, as soon as I see a golf cart, I'm like, I'm driving. Yeah. Me too. That's what I was gonna say.

Who doesn't fight for that scene? Yeah? First of all, they're fun. Second of all, she recently had a child, not sure what her drinking situation is. She definitely could just be not drinking while everyone else is having fun. Or Justin's with his friends. So she's like, you sit in the back with your friends and I'll drive.

The way people just harass this woman is un-fucking-believable. It's crazy. Just leave her alone. You know what we also need? Amy Lou Wood, her teeth, leave her alone. I've been saying that. I agree.

Mary, what's with this lazy writing from your SNL people? I don't know, sometimes it's bad. That happens a lot. SNL did a skit trying to like, called The White POTUS. I think they're, you know, hop on the train of the White Lotus hype and stuff and made it about Donald Trump and his family. Yeah, they basically played the, what's his?

The Ratliff family. Ratliff family or whatever. Anyways, but Amy Lou Wood responded to Sarah Sherman's portrayal of her and described it as mean and unfunny. And so I was like, oh, I wonder, I usually find like SNL funny, let me go watch it. And it literally was so unfunny that I was like,

no, she's right. The portrayal of Amy Lee Wood is basically what like, you would say if you went to like a fourth grader and said, hey, can you mimic this person? And you showed a picture, like you showed a scene from Amy and White Lotus, they did like what a fourth grader would do, where they did the whole like, showed the picture, like you showed a scene from Amy and White Lotus, they did like what a fourth grader would do, where they did the whole like,

showed the teeth and like, that was it. That was like, it was six seconds of just like, mocking her teeth. That was it. Yeah, it also just conceptually didn't make sense for the sketch, because everyone, every single character, like John Hamm was Rick as RFK, so it would have made sense if Sarah Sherman

was Amy Lou as like Cheryl Hines, which would have been funny, but then it wasn't. But then also Amy Lou Wood said that her issue was with like the writing of SNL and did say she didn't blame Sarah Sherman. But. But it's also like it's just not funny and it wasn't smart. No, yeah, I agree.

If you have to wear prosthetics to make a joke out of someone, I feel like it's harmful. Have we figured out whether Amy Lou Wood and Walton are still not confirmed? Is there still drama going on there? We think there's still I don't know Jason Isaacs has been really cagey about the whole thing and then he was like, I'm not saying any drama and it's like girl You started saying all of this. Yeah, so all that's still confirmed is that somebody is blocked and That the tag is not coming up and the comments are still not coming up on Walton's page.

He doesn't follow her on Instagram as of now. Yeah. Allegedly, that's not confirmed. Her tag does not come up and her comments are still. True, but. That's usually the sign of blocking, but allegedly. Did you see Jason Isaac's interview on NBC, some news channel where he's getting interviewed about,

she's like trying to talk to him about the robe scene. He was like, would you ask Margaret Qualley or Mikey Madison if like those are her actual parts? Like, no, you wouldn't. So stop asking men if like those are prosthetics or their actual parts. The interviewer was like, yeah, I would, I would ask them what those women is like, no, you wouldn't. You would not ask and be like, are those your boobs or prosthetics? Was that your actual vagina that I saw on, like, no. You would never ask a woman that. So like, I was like, was that for him? Was that for him

for standing up for like that of himself? He's like, I'm not talking about my penis on television. Yeah. I agree with that. Do you think Erawan has the right to not talk about the cockroaches? Do you think they're gonna make us a notes app or a black screen apology? Yeah, well, people eat cockroaches. They'll find a way to like elevate it and overcharge you.

They did make an apology already though. They did say we deeply regret that a roach was found in our tonic bar and we sincerely apologize for this lapse in our standards. It also wasn't a single roach. It was two live roaches and one dead one. And that's rough. That's a village.

Where there's three, there's a family. Yeah. There's a small community and it was under their coffee machine.. And that's rough. That's a village. Where there's three, there's a family. Yeah. Yeah. There's a small community and it was under their coffee machine. Well, that's where you're mistaken because one of them was for the smoothies,

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Do we just start? Hi. Missing you. So excited to be here. Lisa, how are you? We're so excited to have you. I'm so pumped. I'm always in your comment section fighting for my life. Are you?

What? So excited to be, oh yeah. I'm always defending the girls, I swear. Oh, you're fighting with me? Are you arguing with me? Are you arguing with my audience? No. No, just truly anyone that will argue back with me.

Oh, okay. Well, thanks for, honestly, thanks for the engagement. No worries. I really appreciate it. I wanted to start, Liza, by letting you know that I too also am truly obsessed with pressure washing, rug cleaning content, and hooves cleaning content.

Two of my absolute favorites on the internet. I felt very seen watching your special last night. It really just, I don't know. Has that been in your heart for a long time? How long have you been a member of these clubs? I'm like a sucker for the edit and the algorithm. I don't have any more of my own opinions or thoughts. Whatever is given to me is what I'm into.

So right now it's like little gay boys singing My Heart Will Go On in public. That's my explore page. And it's so cute and sweet, and they're so earnest and talented. And then Moodang took over my life and I still haven't let her go. Really? I feel like that hasn't come and gone

off your for you page? Absolutely not, no. And she did for a little bit and I was your for you page. Absolutely not. No. And she did for a little bit and I was a little bit. And so they brought it back. Has she grown? Yeah, she's like nine months now. Yeah. Oh, is this the hippo?

Yeah. I was like, yeah. Is this the hippo? She's forever captured in my mind. It's just like a tiny little thing. How long have you been into Bravo? 2006, honestly, the first episode of the Housewives of Orange County. Yeah. The first moments of like the what is it?

Ducato. Caracada. No, what was the why am I forgetting the cul de sac? They all love them. Oh, none of them can afford to live in now. Yeah. No, I've been watching since the beginning and probably even before. Like James Lipton, the Actors Studio. Like I've been a Bravo head even before, like the Andy rain. Cotto de Casa, Cotto de Casa.

Yeah. What is your favorite like show on Bravo? Real Housewives of New York. I think what? Not not right now, but in terms of history, like that's that has always been a big part of my life. And I quote it the most. I would say I quote it the most. Did you see Ramona's picture on Instagram? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, what a loony tune. I don't get why her daughter won't help her. Yeah, right. Avery's too busy with her business. She's like throwing bachelorette parties. She's like, I don't have time, mom, to help you with this. Has she commented on the Photoshop or is she just kind of out there pretending everything's fine?

It's not her first rodeo. All the housewives who do this were, they fustoon one image but not the other one. So I don't think they care. Yeah, but wasn't there one daughter that helped her mom? There was someone that posted a crazy photo and the daughter was like... She blamed the daughter. No, the daughter went, take this down, mom. And then it happened posted a crazy photo and the daughter was like. She blamed the daughter. No, the daughter went take this down mom and then it happened, but I forgot which person it was.

The single ally in the group. The comments under Ramona's like, she looks like a newborn baby. I mean, I don't get it. Cause it's like, who was it? The millionaire matchmaker went on, watch what happens live. And Andy goes, you look good.

Why are you doing this to your face? Like that's- Oh goes, you look good. Why are you doing this to your face? Like that's how you do it. Yeah. That's just your guy. She was promoting the show I did with her. Oh my God, yeah. And Andy was like, you look good. Why are you fucking up your face on the internet?

No, it was like, yeah. It was like, Patty was out there promoting it, and I'm just like, what is she doing? And then finally, yeah, Andy asked her about it. It was like a totally different person. But Pat, when I promote, when I posted for it, I posted the photo and then Patty DM'd me and she told me that CW corporate wanted me

to delete that photo and put it up because it wasn't approved, like the one I posted quote unquote wasn't approved by corporate. And I definitely did not believe her. So I just left it up. It just like wasn't edited of her. She's like, so actually the network doesn't want this photo out there. You need to remove it immediately. so actually the network doesn't want this photo out there,

you need to remove it immediately. What, the network wants a AI Photoshopped version that doesn't look anything like you? Like, I don't know about that, Patty. I love the, I love the lie. Yeah, it's a commit. No, yeah, stick to it. Commitment to the bit, for sure.

Yeah, no, she was fully committed to it. So are you watching a little Summer House right now? Yeah, no, like, now I understand what you're saying is like, right now what I'm into for sure, the Summer House right now? Yeah, no. Now I understand what you're saying is like right now what I'm into for sure, The Summer House, The Break Up, I think it's all very compelling. How are you, where are you sitting with like the Lexi-Jesse relationship?

Oh, it's like humiliating. I don't know what happens in that house where these like girls get so into, but they're also love bombing and lying to these women. So I mean it's diabolical. I would say it's diabolical. And you know he didn't just get his toe sucked, it's crazy. 37 minutes, I don't know.

We need to get Jesse on and just break down each minute of these 37 minutes. Like well what was going on in minute six? Like cause you can't, you know like at that point, you're still watching, you're just looking? When will he start telling the truth? That's, I guess you could watch, but he must have jerked off in the corner while watching.

There's no way he was just in there with none of it. And there's just no answer that I'm not pissed about. At the end of the day, it was a threesome, and there was naked body parts, and you were watching the naked body parts, and I'm not interested in that. No, and it's totally okay if you're into that. Why are you tricking this woman into being boyfriend and girlfriend and like that's what I don't understand. You could just be a single tall

sexy man in the house. No, Liza. What's crazy is the like switch up from his confessionals to like what he's saying in front of her. Like he knows they're gonna put that seconds after. He knows how the show works. And he just has no shame in his confessionals. I think he's just kind of trying out what it feels like to have a girlfriend. He just fought cancer. I just feel like Jesse gets a free pass

for at least a year or two. The cancer pass, I agree. I don't know. You're right. Why lie? Why lie? That's what I'm saying. You're already tall. People already expect it from you. Why are you pretending you want to be in a relationship

when you literally could have the freedom to do whatever and nobody could get mad at you because you're not putting labels on it? Yeah, and Lexi probably would have by the end still been into it. But she also really wants it too, you know? Yeah, I know, but that's like agreeing to do something. That's like saying, I'm going to not eat sugar for a week, knowing that I just bought a bunch of cookies, candy, whatever.

Like you're going to Summer House. You're going to go be at parties every weekend, getting hammered off of your face. Like, why not wait till the summer's over and get a girlfriend for the city? Like, you can have fun and flirt. That's like why we enjoy the show. There's a way to flirt without full blown lying.

You know, Lexi confronting Sierra about the like flirting. She's like, I just like know y'all are brother and sister. And she's like, face, face. I mean like she's too Canadian. For brother and sister. I mean they're definitely not brother and sister. You know? No.

Even Sierra's face when she was saying it was just kind of like, okay that's an interesting take on that. Yeah. And this is like dark, but if you're over 18, like incest is legal. Like it's frowned upon and we don't like it, but it's not like this whole thing of like brother

and sister, it's like, I don't know, I could, you know. They're white lotus. Some people are really, yeah. Some people really. It is legal. But Lexi, it's just so immature. The following, like I kind of miss that era of life too. I don't know, I don't see who people follow or like,

like that's not part of my life. I wouldn't even know how to like look it up. I really appreciated the whole meeting the parents bit because I think meeting someone's parents is the most overrated like milestone in an early relationship that that everyone freaks out about and acts like it's the biggest deal in the world. And I kinda love that Lexi was just like,

and somewhat fairness to Jesse, minus the fact that he also beat cancer, which I kinda give him a pass, but she's just like, I wanna try to make this man my boyfriend. I wanna make this former fuck boy, I wanna lock him up, and I'm gonna insist that I meet his parents.

She kinda owned that it was of her doing. Jessie was like, this is way faster than I would introduce anyone to my parents, but whatever, she wants to, so I guess it's just like, sure, I can introduce her to my parents, because it really doesn't mean anything. But people always freak out about the milestones

of meeting parents. I just kind of loved it. It kind of showed just how like, unserious it is. Even for a guy who even says that like, if he had it his way, he would have waited much longer. But she was like, yeah, I guess if you really want to, we can go ahead and meet Terry and Jill.

Now he's having a coughing attack, so we're just gonna let her deal with that. I feel you. I have no opinion about the parent thing, I don't know. I just, I don't care. I think it's weird. What's more weird, that she wanted to meet the parents or that Jesse-

Yeah. That it's such a because she does. She has such a weird. She has a different relationship with her parents, right? They're clubbing. They're vacationing. Like, you can't assume everyone else has that relationship with their parents. Mm hmm. It was actually like a non thing. But like, I don't know.

I was I kind of loved it. Well, sure. After they did it, Jessie was like, this is a maniac. Don't worry about this. Like, I don't know. You know, I'm sure off camera he was like, you know, maniac, don't worry about this. Like, I don't, you know, I'm sure off camera he was like, you don't, you'll never see this woman again. My favorite part was that they're not boyfriend and girlfriend, but they are exclusive and they have met each other's parents.

But he's like, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend. Or maybe Lexi said that, I forget, but it's like the most insane thing in the world. And then Carl was like, congrats, I heard. Yeah. It's like, is it that big of a deal, but it is. Yeah, I don't get the sub-level of exclusive versus boyfriend and girlfriend either.

The dimensions of dating these days. Yeah, I don't understand the exclusive, but not boyfriend and girlfriend. It's so hard to see dogs on a screen and not be able to touch them. Have y'all ever had that, a coughing, like where you are so embarrassed, you're like, it's a little tickle in your throat

and you're like, this is gonna be, and everyone's gonna ask you if you're okay because you're gonna look, you're like, it's a little tickle in your throat and you're like, this is gonna be, and everyone's gonna ask you if you're okay, cause you're gonna look like you're dying. Yeah. Yes. Been there? I've done it on this couch. Glad I'm in a safe space.

No, I have a disgusting cough cause I've been sick, but then I, I'm better, but I won't stop smoking weed for the life of me. And so the cough stays forever. I hear you girl. Oh really? Cool. And we were like, what about edibles and drinks? I'm like, it's not the same.

It's not the same. I wanna join. It's definitely not the same. Yeah, I don't have 45 minutes just to sit there and wait for that sweet release to kick in. I don't like. He's trying to economize. I think it's kicking in, nope.

Yeah, right? That's where I'm taking another one and then being like, oh shit. And you really don't know it's kicked in till like after Yeah, right. That's where I'm taking another one. And then being like, oh, shit. And you really don't know it's kicked in to like after you're kind of like, you know, yeah. And it took you 20 more minutes to realize that you've been high for 20 minutes. Yes. It's only good like if you're at a pool all day. That's an edible day. OK.

Because then you're just floating and you're like, oh, nice. But other than that, I need it down to the business. I want it to burn. I wish there was more potheads on Bravo. Do you know that they're all smoking weed at Summer House and it's all on TikTok? No, I didn't know that. There's a video of Amanda and she's,

maybe West or Jessie posted it, but she's wearing the parrot head and she's just smoking a joint through it and they're all just like, keeking before they go outside to the party. But yeah, they're all vaccinated. Amanda gives huge pothead. Oh, yeah.

And I say that with love, Amanda, if you're listening and you feel judged. I relate. It's like, do I have to leave my apartment? Why? I have everything I need right here. She's like Jennifer Aniston to me. You know, just delicate little jewelry, cute outfits, fun, likable. I like her a lot.

As I said, Paige is known for the fashionista, but like Amanda has such great day-to-day style that nobody recognizes it, but she is a little fashionista herself. Yeah, and she could dress so casual and still look so elevated and chic. You wanna wear what she's wearing, where Paige is like, that's a moment,

where Amanda's like, can I just have your clothes? I know, Paige was wearing a broader dress just at the barbecue. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. She's doing well. Especially around barbecue sauce, you know? Yeah, you're not worried. They're cracking seafood, like butter.

You know, it was this, listen, it was also the same episode where she constantly just reminded us that between her and Craig, she makes way, way, way more money than him. So she was just like, I don't even care if I get a stain, I'm whatever, I'm wearing Prada. I'll buy it again. I'll buy it again. I make more money than Craig.

It's fine. She makes more money than everybody. She said she was gonna buy Loverboy and sell it if Kyle didn't get his act together. God, that was so cool. It was such a good comeback. Well, that's the one thing in the comments that I have to get a life,

but the audience doesn't get how much more successful she is than him. Really? Yeah, they're like, yeah, a lot of the Bravo accounts are like, God, she's so cocky. Oh, she's delusional. She's this. And I'm like, she was on Jimmy Fallon.

She has a Tressamay ad, you guys. Like there's no way these pillows are competing. Yeah, I don't know. She's got that Tressamay money. Kroger. Lisa, what are they saying about her, about Paige in that context? Like she needs to go back to Craig because like she won't be able to take care of herself?

Or what are they saying? So this was the Vaulters upset posted. That was, that's like the, I mean, yeah, I'm like deep. I gotta read a book, but basically people think that she's out of line and delusional and there's no way that she's more successful than Craig and that comment was out of line, that she was the breadwinner.

It's giving Southern term fans. Yeah, and it was very much like, ugh, that tour, that's a once in a what, I'm like, selling out Radio City Musical. Three times in a row? Is truly, I don't know how they're trying to like, make it seem not as amazing as it is. Right.

Or just their pod. Paige is really rich. The Amazon Live. Her apartment. Her apartment, I was like, okay, this is a set from Sex and the City. She has like a shoe eye. She's got a chandelier, she's got a foyer.

She's Carrie fucking Bradshaw. No, she's Charlotte York. She is Charlotte. I still don't think Craig needed to defend her during one of those rumors, but she definitely does make way more money than him. No, he didn't have to, but then to act like, I'm just a little good boy when you're alluding

to these rumors is annoying. I don't like the way he's trying to frame himself as some victim of something. Well, yeah, they're both definitely trying to win the breakup that they both told us was totally amicable and very chill. And I remember being like, I don't know, I feel like it's gonna get messy.

And it did, it was fun. It did. What did you make of Lindsay being like, well, your little girlfriend, the home wrecking whore, like that whole scene at the Shavott dinner. I'm a Lindsay Hubbard apologist. I have been for years. I really like the TV she brings for me.

And I'm loving that Paige and her have this new little, like, friendship. Yeah. And I love Paige's take of like, yeah, Lindsay is wrong, doesn't care, was like, I guess I'm wrong, and continued, like, no shame. She, it's beautiful to watch. She was like, Lindsay Hubbard raised me.

And it was just like remembering them fighting, like, seasons apart. And she's like, Lindsay Hubbard raised me. And it was just like remembering them fighting like seasons apart. And she's like, no, that woman, I love her. I will say it was so funny to watch like Paige have that moment in the beginning where she's like, listen, Lindsay Hubbard does not admit when she's wrong. And then to have her be like,

you were saying this bitch where we were talking, prove it, prove it. And then he proves it. She's like, but still you need to tell her, you know. It's like she couldn't be like, all right, I fucked up. It was like we literally talked on it. You're talking to your girlfriend to get her timeline straight.

I really appreciated Lindsay because it felt a bit performative in a sense, but like honestly to me it's just like put this woman on Roni. Like, I think Lindsay knew. She's just like, I've been hanging out in this bedroom while people go out every fucking night. I need to get in some of this action. I'm protecting my peace too much.

You know what, I'm gonna fucking just make Carl's life a living hell for one more night. And I think she absolutely knew, but it was an amazing performance and it was really quite lovely. And honestly, it made me miss Lindsay this whole season because she's been really chilling. She really can deliver at a moment's notice.

And she let kind of Carl get a burn-in on her. this whole season, because she's been really chilling. Like, she really can deliver at a moment's notice. And she let kind of Carl get a burn-in on her. And it did, like, with the, you have a bad taste in people. And he was like, yeah, clearly. Like, kind of gave him that. It was, but wasn't offended. Yeah, she was there to riff. It was just fun and fighting

without the aftermath of darkness. Yes, over Shabbat. What is your reaction to your ex-boyfriend saying he prays for you? Anyone saying that is like, I would hit him in his neck like that. I would be so upset. It's like, bless your heart, you know, it's like so rude. What if he topped it off by calling you ma'am? Ma'am, I'll pray for you.

Would you be okay? We're done. I would be pissed, I would be pissed, I'll pray for you. Wow, thanks. Would you be okay? We're done. I would be pissed, I would be pissed. I would break a glass. I can't drop it. I would be so mad. Please, I can't drop ma'am, sir, I can't, I won't. Oh, you love it, you can't get rid of it.

I love it so much. She is from the South though. It's just so insulting to me. I'm like, I'm still in my head like a young girl. I don't think it means you're old. It just means that like that I respect you. Oh yeah. I don't know, like a 23 year old dude was like,

yes ma'am, I'd be like, all right, gonna go make an appointment at the plastic surgery. I'm done here, done in church. Get that Ramona. You wouldn't be like, oh that's kind. He's respecting me. He's just being like, I'm gonna be like, how old do you think I am?

You think sir also means someone's old? I don't know if I've ever said sir to anyone unless I'm like, I'm gonna be like, how old do you think I am? You think sir is also means like someone's old? I don't know if I've ever said sir to anyone unless I'm like, I'm being a bitch. Yeah, sir is condescending to me. I'll tell you the last time I said sir, this is a wild story, this happened five years ago. I remember this so well, but I ordered Postmates home state. And when I went outside to meet the delivery driver,

he was feeding the taco to a German shepherd that was on the sidewalk. Shut the fuck up. And I said to him, sir, I think that's my food. I think that's the last time I said sir. I was like, what? Oh, the other time was when my Uber driver fell asleep in Salt Lake City on the highway

when I was veering into the medium. I went, sir, wake up, wake up. Like, that's how I use. Sir. We have so many questions about your taco with the German shepherd. I can't. I we went back and forth for a little bit. His excuse to me was I thought you lived in this other house. That's what that was his response when I said, I think you're feeding my food to this dog. He's like, I thought it was your dog. I thought you sent the dog out because he was hungry.

He said, if this was your dog, you'd be happy. I'm doing this right. Like taking care of it. I'm like, no, you shouldn't feed dogs cheese and sour cream either. Like, I'm also hungry stray. I would help. But Postmates called me back immediately. I've never had customer service like call so fast when it was like my my food's been fed to a dog, I don't know. Yeah, I bet they were like,

oh my goodness, throw on the phone right now. It's crazy. They only offered me $5. I was like, you gotta, I need a little bit more of a credit, please. That's a TikTok video, Buzzfeed would have picked that up instantly. I should have more on top of it, yeah.

Did you see the Kyle Richards and Teddy Mellencamp video over the weekend that she got into a fight with a dog walker and she's like, it looks almost like Kyle instigated it. Can someone show us? What was it? You haven't seen this? I do wish the best for Teddy.

I'm glad she's out. Well, Teddy was there and then Kyle was hiding behind her while she's filming this woman. I think Kyle and then Kyle was like hiding behind her. Like while she's like filming this woman. I think Kyle got mad at the woman for her dogs. There's a second of the dog kind of being dragged a little bit, but there's also a context of they were recording them for a lot longer than what we see. The recordings were, because in my head, if I get in, I live in New York, so whatever, bumping happens.

And then sometimes you realize like, oh, this person might hit me and then I would leave. I don't get continuing to talk to someone that is clearly gonna hit you and can hit you. If you need to hide behind someone, walk away. And your friend has brain cancer. If you keep like running away from this person, but not leaving the vicinity, there's an issue here. She just keeps like running in circles. No, there's an issue here. She just keeps running in circles.

Kyle does. No, there's recently happened, I bumped in with this guy, we were both yelling at each other, and then I was like, oh, I don't wanna get hit. I don't need the last word here. I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. I do need Kyle or Teddy or someone to come out on their Instagram stories and give us some context.

But you saw that woman, right? When someone calls me ma'am, that's what I think they think I am. Like that woman fighting. That's how I feel when I get her. Do you think when she threw off the, whatever she threw off, that was the moment Kyle called her ma'am?

Absolutely. She said, what did you call me? What's crazy is that morning, I watched Teddy post a story being like, I'm getting out, I'm on a walk with my girls. And it's like the beginning of that walk. And she's with Kyle and she's with the other woman and she's like, happy to be outside, happy to be on a walk.

And it's like, well, this is how it ended. I need some context. It's like the plot of an Agnes Varda movie. Yeah, hopefully they'll go on a live soon. I need a live. Did you see the end of the video where a security movie. Yeah, hopefully they'll go on a live soon. I need a live, yeah. Did you see the end of the video where a security guard does show up and they let the woman go. So I think it was like a diffusion of like,

Kyle and them following her. I hope they would let her go. Like what would they, detain her? I think Kyle and them, whatever reason they thought they were on the right, that's where they were recording. So, I mean. That's always the best when someone records and posts it

and then everyone's like, you're wrong. It's like the Jersey Mike situation. Yes. I bet Kyle's been a Karen out in the wild. Oh, yeah. I definitely see that happening. She's asked for a manager. You've missed the mark today.

Do you know who my family is? I feel like she's done the do you know who I am? Yeah. Oh, she has ruined a Hilton employee's life. That's actually my flaw as a person too. If my hotel room's not ready in time, I do get more upset than I'd like. Oh, I've been fighting with people on the phone

for far too long about deliveries. We're supposed to get a rug delivered, which first of all, why they set this up this way, they set it up for like a white glove delivery. Like I don't need someone to bring this in. It's a rug. First of all, why they set this up this way, they set it up for like a white glove delivery. Like I don't need someone to bring this in. It's a rug, leave it on my doorstep. Like I'll roll it out whenever I feel like rolling you out.

But they're, they delivered it to like a third party delivery center. And they are, they've like pushed my delivery date four times now. And now they're like, oh, like, oh, it's too busy. Like they can't put it on the truck. And I was like, well, can I come pick it up? And they're like, oh, it's too busy, they can't put it on the truck. And I was like, well, can I come pick it up? And they're like, well, you have to get confirmation

from the sender and I'm like, well, put them on the phone, call them right now, well, three way. He's like, no, they gotta send an email. I'm like, I don't even want you to do this. I just wanted it UPS, dropped off at my door, I didn't sign up for this and I've been yelling at people for so long. I was pretty impressed though. She really didn't care.

I'm enraged for you. Fighting the fight. Did they get it? No. Still not here. No. I'm feeling they lost it. And they're like, sorry.

No, literally. He said, ma'am, it's not gonna be that hard to like get you your rug. And I said, well, if it's not gonna be that hard, I need you to drive, get in your car hard I need you to drive get in your car I need you to drive to the warehouse I need you to put my rug in your personal car and then drive it to my house he's like this and I'm like well how can I make sure that I never ever let a package that I'm having delivered be delivered to your

warehouse he's like I don't understand the question I don't know how I can make it any clearer. I never wanna work with you people again. That was really impressed. It wasn't the craziest customer service experience we had a little late recently. We were flying back to LA with our daughter. Cute. We've flown with her, I don't know, how many times?

20 times? 100. 100 times. I'm not even gonna name the airline because not even the airline's fault. And we got to, we were checking in and if you fly with like an infant under two, they just like, you have to just call them up and be like,

hey, I got a infant under two, here's their birthday, you know, they're our child. And they're like, great, you're ready to go. And we didn't do that when we booked the flight. So a couple of times we've done this before, you go up to the front desk, you're like, hi, we have our child is confirming just at Amman. And this person, this lady was just like,

well, can I see your birth certificate? We're like, excuse me, huh? And like, they're like, yeah, no, we're gonna need a birth certificate. And I'm like. And then she says, or a record of her shots. I was like, I'm sorry, you think I got her from the pound? Like a record of her shots. I was like, I'm sorry, you think I got her from the pound? Like a record of her shots.

And we were just like kind of startled and like our flight was like, you know, we had like an hour to go. So a little panicked and she's like, yeah, I'm just gonna need to see something. I'm like, we've flown with her for like several times. We've never been asked for this. Then she says, well, do you have a photo

of her in the hospital? Like, ma'am, are you just trying to see pictures of my baby as a newborn? And in kind of a panic, I'm scrolling through my phone and I'm looking at like literally delivery photos of like Natalie and River. Like he's about to show her the video of me giving birth. Because like all I'm thinking is like, I'm certainly,

we need to get home, certainly not gonna leave my kid. And this person is literally pretending. Like what was crazy is we finally figured out that she had no idea what she was talking about, and she's just like making up documents that she thought we should have. And then finally, I literally showed her a photo of Natalie in the hospital bed holding River.

She's like, oh, okay, she's like, well, you know, you really should. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't think we need this. And she's like, well, you know, you really should. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't think we need this. And she's like, well, you know, you really should just like bring, you know, some extra documentation just in case, basically she was like, just in case you meet someone like me, who is just gonna randomly ask for documents

that you don't need. And then she's like, you never know who you could trust. As if she like just got done, like watching some kind of like dark web documentary on like child trafficking. Like she definitely had just got done watching that, was making sure that our child was ours. But it was just kind of freaky to think about how this person who's working the front counter at the airline was just making up random rules for the airline, in terms of whether they could allow

an infant child on the flight or not. It was kind of slightly terrifying. And we literally had to show her a photo of not having a child on the flight, and. It was kind of slightly terrifying, and we literally had to show her a photo of Natalie in a hospital bed to get our daughter on an airline. It was crazy.

And it's not like the baby fresh born looks like your baby now. It could be any random baby too if you were trafficking. Babies do look the same. That's exactly what I said, and she was like, well, there's no photos on a birth certificate. And she was like, well, there's no photos on a birth certificate. And I'm like, no, I get that.

But you just switched what your ask was. It started with birth certificate. And then do you have any photos of her in the hospital? Yeah. And in between sandwiched in between shot records, like, huh? I hope it was like a fun prank that the employees were doing. Like go ask to do that.

Yeah, they meet in the break room and they're like, oh, my God, I got the best people. Yeah. I literally saw a vagina. I had a customer service thing wildly yesterday, so I know Drybar is always going to have not great service. It's kind of. But I landed yesterday. I wanted to look good. I wanted my blowout for today. So I made an appointment for five o'clock. They called me two days ago going,

can you actually come at 4.30, we're closing early. I go, okay, show up at 4.30. They do not take me until 5.25. That's insane, bro. I got out of my blow dry at 6.17. I got there at 4.30. No, did you say anything? Well, once the woman was done, finally with her blowout,

this, her other client, she comes and goes, I actually have to take my legally state mandated break. I go, what? She goes, I have to take a break. It's the law. So either my break or if he finishes first, he'll take you. And I went, okay, I just, if I came at five, I wouldn't be that mad.

But you guys asked me to come early. She goes, I'll bring you champagne. I go, fine. The bottle. I'll take the bottle. But then I didn't have anywhere to go, so I couldn't be that mad. I didn't have any plans. Yeah, but now you're just like stuck. Yeah, I don't know. I smoked a joint, I drank champagne, I read a town and country. It wasn't that bad. Have you ever been convinced to order a particular piece

of whatever it is, like in store? Like you go to a store and like, oh, we don't have that, we can order it for you. You're like, no, it's okay. They're like, but it'll be free shipping. And you're like, okay, like, sure, I guess. Like I just spent 10 minutes searching our back shipment for this size of shirt and we don't have it,

so you might as well just order it because I spent so much time, and you're like, okay, sure, let's order it. We did that in a store where we ordered it in person because the girl, and I was gonna order it online, the girl really was pushing it. I'm like, she really wants that commission. She wants that commission really bad.

And then it has, I haven't gotten any notification about like, oh, it's shipped, it's on the way, nothing. So we go into the store yesterday and Nick's like, it's almost like we gave you our money for nothing. She was like, oh, well, let me just get right on that right now. No, did you guys get the coffee table? I go, no, it's almost like we didn't actually buy

but still give you money. We still don't have it. Are you getting the table? We hope so, we haven't gotten any updates, so we'll see. Are you watching Housewives of Atlanta? I am, I am. Where do you stand on the nudes? I didn't know how I was gonna feel

because the photos did exist, but I also think that's pretty gross, and then watching it was so dark. So dark. Watching it was upsetting, it felt like Kenya was in a trance. The rage I saw on her face was blinding her to this huge event for her.

She wants this for her daughter, this salon, and to do that, and big misstep, and it sucks she messed up this season and career. I don't know, it's really a bummer. And then when they showed the footage of the original accusation of the claim that Brent made the threat, it honestly was way more watered down than I anticipated.

I don't know what you thought, but when she's like, well, I have whips, I have pistols, she didn't even say gun, she said pistols, and then afterwards, I'm pretty sure I heard Kenya in the background explaining to someone that pistols means the same as guns as if even in that moment she was like, wait, did you hear what she said? And she said pistols as if it was like,

I guess maybe she technically shouldn't have said that, but I don't know, it really kind of gave me, it gave me the same energy of Ben Stiller on Meet the Parents when he's saying ba-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb-a-bomb. It was like, is this really a threat or is she saying something she probably It gave me the same energy of Ben Stiller on Meet the Parents when he's saying, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. It was like, is this really a threat? Or is she saying something she probably shouldn't have said, she probably should apologize for?

It wasn't like, I'm gonna kill you. I have a gun, you better not be back when I get here, I'm gonna blow you away. That's the energy Kenya is acting like. Britt threw her way, and it was this kind of a nothing statement, and then she pulls out her way. And it was this like kind of a nothing statement. And then she pulls out the poster boards. It was it was so dark.

And Brit came to apologize. She brought the bouquet. She said she was ready to apologize. So for Kenya to like continue on that journey with the photos is pretty. Yeah. Never finding out that like from this episode, it was photos when Brit refers herself as a teenager. And then I think Portia is the one now claiming that it's when she was underage.

It's unclear if that's true. Now who's making, Justin, can you catch us up here? Who's making the claim that someone else from the cast sourced these photos? Basically, Portia posted a video where it was teasing an interview she was doing, and she basically was like, well, here's the tea. Someone from this cast that's currently on Atlanta gave Kenya the videos. Kenya commented on that post saying

absolutely no one on the show gave me anything, stop using my situation as clickbait. Twitch Portia responded to her comment saying that's a lie, we talked day and night and I personally went to network slash production and fought for you before you showed her underage explosive picks. I also went after as well because I was hurt you had to leave, underage explicit pics. I also went after, as well, because I was hurt. You had to leave. I checked on you because I cared and care." Basically, she was just like, this is a lie. Someone gave it to you. You also shared it. It was underage.

So that's what Portia's claiming. But if somebody gave it to her, like, why would Kenya deny that? Yeah, that's the part where... Because that's kind of like where it's like, now it's either somebody gave it to you and said that this was a good idea and encouraged this to happen, or you went and dug it up yourself, posted it out. I wanna know who printed it on the foam core. Who went to the house?

That's what I wanna know. Yeah, because I think that like, contradicts her claim of being like, it's not revenge porn, it's all over the internet. Like all I had to do was just search her name, and if someone gave it to her, then that means like it was a little bit more under the table. Got you.

Well, I think it depends on which cast member you're asking, because I know some cast members out on Atlanta are saying, like, revenge porn's a loaded term, like, it was wrong, but also it might be something else. You have, admitting that she was wrong on Watch What Happens Live, like, I think the story is still developing, for sure. Well, what do you mean by it's a loaded term?

It's pornographic content, and it was used in a form of revenge. Well, for sure. Well, what do you mean by it's a loaded term? It's a it's pornographic content and it was used in a. Well, it's actually the porn. The definition of porn is it's too consensual people. And so a lot of times with revenge porn, if someone's taping something and it wasn't meant for other things, it's not porn because it's not consenting. And revenge makes it seem like someone deserved them being leaked. So in like government and criminal terms, they try to change the language of it because revenge means you deserved it and porn means it was consented upon.

So that's why, like, for getting ready, why the language is for child stuff, it's child sex abuse images. I forget the adult term of like, but it's it's just that's why that term is fucked up Yeah, I'm like, I don't know if in the context of This because if it was a consensual thing, but yeah, that's what it sounds like It's like her her boyfriend at the time filmed an act But I don't know about the like displaying it or where it went like did Britt know that it was being displayed or like Did this person

put it on the internet and make money off of it without her consent, that I don't know. Yeah, but even Britt was saying how she, when she was younger, she did some only-fan content, or she was webcam stuff. She was like a cam girl for a little while. Even if she, again, let's say she was an only-fans model for a period of time, and then decided not to do it anymore.

Just because it's out there doesn't allow someone to go out there and then try to weaponize it against you in a public forum and shame you and try to embarrass you and ruin your reputation amongst your peers. Just because you agreed to be an OnlyFans model for a period of time, that doesn't make it okay. King is out there acting like the world agrees that somehow this is a wrong for her to do,

but she just chose to put it out there and it's fair game, which is bonkers. No, that's what some of my, before the episode aired, those were discussions I was having out and about with other comics or just with some friends and they're like, well, it was already out and then watching it, it just was dark and uncomfortable and wrong.

She went in with an intention of apologizing and I think it was expected that a scene was gonna happen to where it would make whatever happened next with Kenya make sense, but unfortunately, where it's like, Britt, not unfortunately, but just like the actuality of it was Britt left and then you still chose to move forward with that. I wonder how she felt right after the party.

Like, everyone leaves, your best friends leave, the vibe is wrong. Like I wonder when it hit her that she messed up. Kenya? I don't think she feels like she's in the wrong though. You're saying Kenya? Yeah. I mean she definitely got a call

from production being like girl. By then, but production must have known those photos are coming out. Like that's the thing with production. I saw something that said production did it now. That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me is this like the whole printing out on the poster board, bringing the poster board to the event space that they had.

It is very hard to believe that no one saw these posters or no one was like, hey, what are these things, these props that you're bringing? That's very hard to believe that no one saw those. That's the part that's missing for me. Because wasn't Portia defending it a little where it's like, or maybe I'm mixing things up, but it's like, if production knew they used her

for this story and then to boot her off is like, mm-hmm, messed up. Well, because Portia also did imply that Kenya, she said she didn't know, but if Kenya comes back next season. So it's a lot of like, and Kenya said she's still on the payroll when she did Tamron Hall, so it's like, there's so many details to the story that we don't fully know.

Well, and with Bravo, it's always hard, because it's like, what is the line? Because, you know, the pulling of the pony, like, in Jersey, like, there's all these things, and they're never consistent with what they decide to punish people with. Jennifer Aiden smashed a glass on Danielle's face last season, and there was like, let's continue,

or the other way around, but like, let's continue filming. Yeah. And then a threat. So it's kind of hard, yeah, to see where the line is when it comes to Bravo pulling people. It's even interesting, cause like in like season one of Beverly Hills, you have the morally corrupt Faye Resnick.

And it's like, they don't show anything, but they're actively talking about like Camille's like playboy spread and Faye's playboy spread and that's just like used, you know what I mean? It's just such a different time now and I think Bravo's still trying to figure out what is Okay, and like not okay It's it's interesting even in VPR did that the roast of Jack's and they showed the picture of like Jack's is dick pic But it was also Jack's so So it's just that's where Kenya and her fan base has been operating on like a double standard

Critique of like and that's where I think we just don't know the whole story. Yeah, I mean that's but like If Bravo is wrong in this story, maybe so, and maybe there's things we haven't learned, but the way Kenya's acting is like, if Bravo's wrong, then that somehow makes her look a little better. I don't see that. I think she can be both completely wrong, and if Bravo in any way is complicit,

or there's a producer who should be fired or something like that, I don't think that in any way is complicit or there's a producer who like, you know, should be fired or something like that. I don't think that in any way lets Kenya off the hook. No. She just hasn't accomplished. It was uncomfortable to watch. It was bad to watch and that's what I'm going off of. But I did want to say, Britt did one of my least favorite things.

I don't like when a housewife is new and comes in too hard with her preconceived notions. She really, Kenya wasn't even that mean to her. It really, I don't like what she did there. She did instigate that there was more of an issue there than just like pull her aside. Oh, that was a side hug, not a real hug. Like get a life. He commented on my ring, he commented on my marriage and it's just like, it's a huge ring.

She's just asking if that's the first one you've ever gotten. Yeah, I like Shemia. I'm just glad Shemia's there. You know who I'm tired of though? Drew. I'm like tired of the Drew Sedora. I'm tired of Dennis. I'm like, I don't understand why we're playing dumb.

Yet you say something to put your foot in your mouth every episode and then be like, no, but I'm a girl's girl. No, she's just like my stars and my moon and my sun and he's just giving me a new life. But like, I'm not doing anything weird. And it's like, no, but I'm a girls girl. No, she's just like my stars and my moon and my sun and he's just giving me a new life, but like I'm not doing anything weird. And it's like, stop it. Stop it immediately. But I think this season more than others,

I'm seeing Portia's kind of a hater. I'm sure Portia. She's one of my favorites. I loved her on girls trip. Like I want to float in a pool with her. Like I love Portia. She's one of the most beautiful, I think, of all the women. And like, I don't know.

Being like, oh, is that your voice? This is your best friend from childhood. That was crazy. Showing up to your best friend's birthday so late. I don't know. It's like hard to watch Portia be such a hater. Portia's the Craig to Paige, the hater boyfriend, the hater best friend. She's like, that's what you see? That was true. That's another thing why I'm in, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on?

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Was that never just a thing? Because I don't think he would wanna be the plus one. She thought he was going to, and then he was kind of like, well, what's the plan? Like, if you're gonna be leaving, like, what about me? And she's like, wait, I thought that there was a we, not a you versus I. So he kind of created the wedge that happened there

with like this insecurity that didn't need to be there. The more he keeps saying- Did you enjoy your time with West on Watch What Happens Live? Yes, I couldn't believe it. I was planning all day to be a little sassy to him, and then he was just so charming and kind, and it was awesome.

Were you, I'm guessing you were team Sierra last season? Oh, of course, of course. I don't like the love bombing and the lying. And the parents, like, I guess maybe I'm older. I do think if you're taking someone as a date to a wedding and to meet your parents and you're doing, I don't know, apple picking, seems like she's gonna fall in love with you.

And then you being like, but I didn't actually say I wanted to be exclusive. It's like, okay, but she's allowed to fall for you in that way and be hurt and upset. Absolutely. But it is embarrassing that she still wants to make out with him. Yeah.

We've all been there. But also so real. Yeah. So real. He is weirdly charming. Like there is something about him that you just cannot dislike him. I think you saw it.

Oh, the one funny thing. And we went out till two in the morning, but I have to stop going out with younger people. I was laying on my floor. I was wrecked. I heard the Taco Bell get delivered and I couldn't even move to go get it. Like I was out by two in the morning,

but he was awesome. But then we went out after, and I think it's cause I'm from the former, so he was like, I thought they brought us on to talk about Ukraine. I go on, Watch what happens. I thought they were going to talk about the war. No, it was.

But he DM me in the day watching my special. He's like, what are we going to drink tonight? And then I sent him a photo watching the reunion from last year. And he's like, please, God, can you watch anything else? But I wanted to prep and he brought Jen Fessler. It was just a dream. I couldn't believe I got to play the game and win and do a shots. I mean, it was.

Have you met Andy before? I bartended. OK, OK. So I bartended once. I was in the audience twice. And then I finally. But that was his third taping of the day, you know, he's a busy guy. He's a busy guy, but he's everything.

They'll do multiple tapings a day. Oh, I didn't know that. Sometimes they're not all live anymore just because he's so busy. I don't think they've been live for a long time. I mean, they're live. But ours was live. They're live where they have

like a live studio audience live, you know, it's always like, it always feels live. No, ours was live. They're live where they have like a live studio audience live. You know, it's always like, it always feels live. No, ours was live. Yours was live live. Ours was live live. Let's go. Yours was live live. Ours was live live and one of my good friends from LA flew it.

Like it was just a huge moment for the group chats, the friend groups, like everything. But then also the bartender was from Top Chef. It was Chef Eric from season 16. So that was even huge. You're just having a time. Huge. Yeah, it was exciting.

I just wish I wasn't taking shot after shot after shot. And I wish I was meaner to him a little bit, but. But he is great. I liked him. Yeah. He's got that charisma. And he's taller than you'd think too. I think.

He's around all these tall guys. He did play, he was like a full football player, right? Yeah, he was a college football player. Man. He's a tall guy. What's your relationship with Andy? I mean, I've, in what way? I don't like have a relationship.

I don't know, just. Secret, secret lovers. Yes, no? I mean, I'm a huge fan of his. I mean, I got to meet him a long time ago. I was on Watch What Happens Live for the first time when I was the bachelor, which was really a cool moment. And so, I'm a big fan of his.

I look up to him as someone who's very good at his job, doing what we do here. But when we see each other, he says hi. But that's the extent of our relationship. I wish we were best friends, but that hasn't happened. I know, I wanna get stoned with him and Sarah Jessica Parker and Amy Sedaris. Oh my God.

Up in his couch room that we saw. But he is so good at his job, and I wish he was more in the conversation when people talk about late night talk show hosts and stuff. It's annoying he's not, because he is so good. He's the closest thing we have to Debra Vance in real life. Yeah. I haven't watched the new season. It's really good. I can't wait.

It's really good. You've already talked about Walton Goggins and Amy Liu and the Instagram stuff. Do you have more knowledge? No, I was going to ask you guys for Inside Scoop. What do you guys think it is? It's like the one thing I'm like so obsessed with. I want to know. I just want to know what I think. I? It's like the one thing I'm like so. Obsessed with right now. I wanna know.

I just wanna know what. I think he's got a wife. I think he's got a wife. Yeah. And I think his wife was just like, I think she did something that irritated her. I think boundaries or some sort of line was crossed. I think, yeah, my personal belief is there's like,

there's an onset world for the relationship and then maybe once that ends, then the communication ends, is my theory. I said, allegedly. Somebody on Walton's side blocked Amy because her comments no longer show up under his photos. They're not following each other and the tags, she's not tagged in any photo, but he's tagged every cast member in like a 20 carousel slide. Damn. With Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac in the background. So.

Okay. There's a lot going on. I just wanted to ask, I just, yeah. Yeah, I wish you knew some, because like, yeah, we don't know any more than anyone else, right? No, I just want an audition for season four. That's what everyone wants.

Let's put it out there right now season four. That's what everyone wants. Let's put it out there right now. Yeah. You have your special out Night Owl streaming now on Netflix. It's hilarious. It's a lot of fun. Everyone should check it out. Can you plug anything else that you want to put out there? Thank you.

I have a podcast that's messed up, an SVU podcast. And we recap SVU. We deep dive into the true crimes and we interview the actors. Love. Loved SVU. Yeah, every Tuesday. So yeah, that's what I have. I'm on season two of Survival of the Thickest as well.

Out and about. And I'm glitter cheese on the internet. If I've ever fought with you in the comments. Well, thank you for trolling in ours. We appreciate it. Stay there. I will. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much, Lisa. Am I saying it right, Lisa? You are. You are. You are. Thank God. Nailed it. Lisa, it's been so much fun. Please come back anytime you're in LA. We love your takes, love your special,

and always great to have a Bravo superfan join us anytime. Yay, wow, thank you. I'm like blushing, that was nice. Not that we're shocked, but Lisa, a ton of fun. Love her. We need to get her back on more and more, especially as Bravo continues. Yeah, she was so much fun.

I was like dying of laughter back here. Did you guys experience an earthquake when we were there? Yeah, yeah. That was, Justin got an alert on his phone and then my phone is always very delayed and I got it late after the earthquake had already happened. Not to brag, but my phone always gets it the earliest. No matter who I'm with, I always get it. Is that because like other areas are having earthquakes

and they send out an alert or something? Yeah, it's not near us. I looked it up. But we all swore we felt it. I think it was in San Diego. Yeah. You know what is interesting though yesterday, because it was really, really hot on Saturday. And then yesterday it was really like overcast.

And I told Danny, I was like, I think there's going to be an earthquake. And alas. Well, nice. Wait,as. Well, nice. Wait, well, with that predictability, Leia, maybe you should buy a lottery ticket. I did, actually. Look, I won.

Did you? Or. I did, yeah. Leia, you need to go on a million dollar secret. There you go. Yeah, with that intuition, maybe, do you think you can compete with Kara? No, I think her acting that quickly There you go. Yeah, with that intuition, do you think you can compete with Kara?

No, I think her acting that quickly and saying that she only had one sister, I would never think that best. You should lie, you should not tell a single truth about your background. The only thing that you have to be careful about is getting caught in the lie. That's the only thing that you have to-

Right, you have to keep track of your lies. Well, anyways, we do have Kara, the winner of Million Dollar Secret out on Netflix. She is with us. She just won a million dollars. The former In-N-Out Burger employee, now millionaire, joins us next. Have you picked out a birthday gift

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So excited. Thank you so much. Thank you. It's so awesome being here. Have you gotten your money yet? I know Gabby Wendy, winner of Traders, was bitching about not getting her money immediately. I hear it's on the way from the bank.

Love that. So I am waiting, yes. Those things usually come fast, right? And they wire, and the wires, I don't know. I don't know, it was the first time for me, so. What a cool show. We were actually, we were interviewing Jordan Davis, country music star, last week, and he was like, we were like, what are you watching?

And he's like, I'm super in to The Million Dollar Secret. We're like, what is this? He's like, it sounds a lot like Traders, and we spent all week and binging it. We're like, we need to get Kara on the show, she won. I'm like, what? So thanks for coming on such short notice. We're so excited to have you.

No, thank you. I'm so happy you guys got to thanks for coming on such short notice. We're so excited to have you. No, thank you. I'm so happy you guys got to watch and I hope you enjoyed it. Yes, it was so good. What was the experience like for you? Oh, it was incredible.

Just the fact that I got the opportunity to be on a show. I'm such a fan of games. And when this came literally magically into my lap, I was like, of course I'm doing it. There's just no way I can't. And then when I figured out I was really good at playing, I thought it was really awesome. And then, yeah, now we're here.

How did you get on the show in the first place? I actually did a game show like 10 years ago, and I had this contact. And she just always would message me, I think the last time was like four years ago asking if I was Interested in a dating show. So I don't know sorry I'm married and then that was the last I heard from her until she just randomly texted me the info about this show She's like hey, I have an opportunity

Would you be willing to do it and it was something I had been praying for a week before. I had just sent in an audition tape for Big Brother. So I was like finally putting myself out there and then all of a sudden I get this text and I just couldn't believe it. I'm like, yeah, of course I'll do it. Like, let's go. That's incredible. And did you have any idea, like, I mean, like,

I know you mentioned, cause it sounds like you got asked to maybe do some like, you know, relationship or dating, you know, type shows and like you said you were married, but like how much about the show did you know before you said yes? Nothing really. It was a game about lies, being deceptive, and a million dollars.

I was like, okay, well I can't lie, and I feel like I'd be a really good person, and I can't be deceitful, but the million dollars, sign me up. I'm not gonna lie, while I was watching, I was like, oh, maybe this is a show I could do because it's not like super physical. And then when it was the running with the dogs

as I kept them out, that's where I get injured. And that's me too. I am so clumsy and I fall all the time. And what you didn't see is I cut open both my legs on the first episode, yes. And I'm like, no, this is so something I would do and now I can't look weak, otherwise they're gonna vote me out.

And I joked with the medics and I was like, well, this could be a million dollar scar. And yeah, now it is. And if you continue to get hurt, it's gonna be like, so it's a secret agenda. Exactly, exactly. It seemed like a lot of your peers underestimated you early.

Maybe that was the edit, I don't know, but you were pretty quiet the first couple episodes watching it back. Did you feel like that was more like an edit and just them kind of telling a story? Or was that going on in reality where it seemed like your peers were just kind of not noticing you and you were kind of flying under the radar?

It was a little of both because watching these games growing up, you can come out and you can say exactly what's on your mind and that doesn't always work out. So when I first realized it was Phil, I could go and tell everybody, but if nobody else is thinking him, it just puts a target on my back.

So I just really went into there knowing that I need to play this game carefully. And I did call shots. I also was building a whole alliance with people. I had an alliance with almost every single person on that show. And that was me behind the scenes doing that work and figuring out how they lie as a person

and who can I really trust to get to the end with. So I was still working behind the scenes. It just wasn't vocally announced. Yeah, but you were so on your game too. Like when Sam asked you about the siblings and you like knew to say one, like how did you know to say one? I actually really terrified the producers with that one.

It was a whole thing. So when I had opened my box that morning, I put on my cross and I knew I was getting the money. I just, when I tell you guys, my intuition is wild. It is, and now people understand, but I just knew I was getting the money. And when I had opened the box, I just knew I was getting the money and when I had opened the box I said I knew it and then now I took a second to

myself I said okay someone's getting a clue about me what is it gonna be and the first two things that popped in my head was my middle name is Lydia and there was Lydia on the show so someone could be asking me about that or my sisters and I have brothers too and that didn't come to my mind it was about my sisters and I was like it's gonna be about my sisters and And I have brothers too, and that didn't come to my mind. It was about my sisters. And I was like, it's going to be about my sisters. And Sam was the first person I actually spoke to when I got out of the room. I know how editing works, but she was the first one I talked to. And when she asked me that, I know it shows a pause, but if you watch it at like the end of the episode eight, it shows no pause. And I had

no pause when I had answered her. I said one. And I'm looking behind her at the producers and they're like looking at each other like, and it's confusing me. I'm like, Oh shoot, did I mess up? Like, I don't know what happened. And we cut and Sam goes and talks to the rest of the contestants and I go to do interviews and the producer almost fell to the floor. She's like, I thought you said you had two sisters when you entered this. I was like, I do. I was like, this is a game. I'm supposed to be lying, right?

She was like on her mic, like, I'm not getting fired. We did the right research. She does have two sisters. So it's a whole thing. Yeah. That tells me that they are almost like trying to set you up in a way to almost kind of get you kicked off. Did it feel like that?

No. No, it's just a game. no, the thing is with these games is that they had to pick these agendas, these clues months before we got there. And they actually picked out of a hat who was getting the money all randomly. They have lawyers there, it's all on camera. Nothing is set up for certain people.

Or yeah, I didn't get an easy clue. I didn't get any of those things. And it is supposed to set up because she was the millionaire. So the clue is supposed to relate to you, but you're so clever. And then your intuition kicking off with the trading of the boxes, like chills.

Yes. Full body chills. Thank you. Did you, like at the end, what was your confidence level that the million dollars was in your box? Deep down, I felt like it was, but then you always have those what ifs that creep in. And I knew if I was this entire show,

if I had the what ifs creeps in, then I'm gonna go home. That's just how it works. You have to be confident. You have to know that that money's in that box. You're going home with it. So as much as I thought a little bit it could happen, I was like, no, it's mine. I'm taking this home.

What was harder, the secret agendas or the challenges? Ooh, that's a great question. For me, the challenges, like if I wanted to win, I could try, but I didn't wanna be like the quiet one that also wins and draw a target on my back, but also the agendas could get you in trouble. If you go in to the trophy room and you get a clue or you get anything like that, I realized from the start,

because I was in there on the first challenge and it wasn't all butterflies and rainbows. Like people were mad that people were saying different people's names in the trophy room. So I realized I don't really wanna be in there. It's not, other people really want to be in there. I didn't. Did you clock anybody's secret agenda before you knew that it was like a secret? Did you, you know, like Lauren being like, oh, cry me a river. Were you like, that's definitely

something but didn't say anything? Sydney's a hundred percent. The falling. What was her again? As soon as that girl walked. Yes. For her immunity, as soon as she walked out of that room and she did this fall down the stairs, I was like, girl, what was that? Come on.

Like, we gotta sign you up for some acting lessons or something because that was really, really bad. And then it got me thinking, I was like, oh, she got immunity right in my head. Yeah, definitely wasn't good acting like the way that she was falling. It's hard to fake fall. I guess, but, cause you don't really wanna hurt yourself.

But yeah, the way that she was falling is fair. I mean, I think Sam called it, but her being like, she cleared both of those steps and then fell. Who do you think made like, in your mind, if maybe you didn't even notice, but was there a point where someone like, really made a mistake and you thought, wow, what a, like I wouldn't have done that.

I think it was Phil with his scream. Oh, the scream. I was gonna say Phil for a different reason, but yeah, tell me more. I think he waited a little bit too long to complete it because we're only given a specific amount of time and then it's done, like you ran out of time. And I think maybe he could have taken the direction

of they won the challenge. So he could have like been screaming with his partners that he won, or he could have scared the girls and said that there was a bug in their hair. I think he could have done a different route. Instead, he had the whole house hear him screaming. Cause everyone's involved at that point.

But it's funny, I didn't know you'd say that, but I honestly thought his bigger mistake was when he made the mistake before by not changing his vote during the elimination, when they had to re-vote between, I think it was. Lauren and Sid, yes. Yes, that's another big one. Yeah, because like at that point,

and they said like the millionaire will have the deciding vote. And one thing you learn pretty quickly watching the show is that like, if you're the millionaire, just information about you can obviously be used against you, especially if you're the millionaire. And so here they are saying, the millionaire will be the deciding vote.

It was already a tie. The last thing you the millionaire will be the deciding vote. It was already a tie. The last thing you want is to be the deciding vote so they can do the very thing they did to Phil, which is be like, all right, well, who was the person who voted? So he should have immediately changed his vote. So like eliminating any chance that it will be a tie. And then I don't even think that other thing happens.

Maybe, because like the first time he spent, prior to that, he didn't do the challenge, and going into that one, he completely fell out of the radar. I mean, that was the vote where everyone was like, hey, we're not gonna get the millionaire, so let's just kick out someone that we think is a threat. And he went from opting out of the secret challenge to kind of being

forced to almost do it, it seemed like. But yeah, I was curious what you thought. Yeah, that's a good one too. What did you think of Se Young's emotional response to the, where were you sitting at breakfast question? I felt so bad for her because what you didn't see on camera was she actually came in that morning for breakfast and she was telling us that she was really upset last night and she almost went home because of how much she misses her kid and her partner and it was just getting a lot for her.

And so she was already in an emotional state and coming to the dinner or the breakfast and being asked those questions where her mind just wasn't even focused on gameplay and then she got hit of not being prepared with gameplay. I was just, I felt really bad for her because I could understand where she was coming from. And- That makes a lot more sense than the random tears because I was like, when you have a kid,

I don't know, do you have any kids? I don't, not yet. You don't? Yeah, but like I couldn't imagine what it'd be like to, I don't know, do you have any kids? I don't, not yet. Yeah, but like I couldn't imagine what it'd be like to, I don't know what I was thinking about. How long were you filming for really quick? Three weeks. Okay, three weeks. And you have no phones, right?

No phones, no communication, nothing. But yeah, it would be very difficult for anyone to like leave their child for that period of time. So I empathize with any child, especially any mom that had to leave their kid. And not knowing that context makes a ton of sense why she was hyper emotional. Yes, she didn't just come out with tears.

You are, I think famously now work at In-N-Out. Is that, you still work there? You did work there? I do work at In-N-Out. I'm not a lying burger flipper. I definitely work at In-N-Out. Is that your job now? I just quit.

Congrats. Yay. Yes, I came back from the show, still flipping burgers, no one knew. What did your coworkers, did they know that you were on the show when you came back that you'd won a million dollars? No, no one knew I left.

It was really funny. I was there the day the trailer came out, and so everybody was watching it, and then walking in like, Cara, are you gonna tell us something or what? Yeah, so it was really funny. How long did you work there for? Almost eight years.

Wow. Mm-hmm. I'm a certified burger flipper. So you're a fan of In-N-Out's french fries or? They are the cleanest on the market. Okay. Okay, that's good to know. I don't love, yes, they are very, Like in and out French fries or? They are the cleanest on the market. Okay, that's good to know. I don't love, yes, they are very, everything there is very clean and high quality for sure.

Well, now that you don't work there anymore, are you gonna spend time cooking other foods? Oh goodness, I'm getting in trouble for that one. I know, I genuinely do wanna cook anything but burgers and fries. I don't know why that was so suspicious, but yes. I know that like, I feel like it and outs trends on TikTok go very viral, you know, whatever the Kylie Jenner is eating or how like frustrating or was it frustrating at

all for people to come in and order these like crazy off menu secret menu things? Yes, we're actually not supposed to say no to the customer. But that was the thing with my burger is it's not something you can order. And so when people want me to tell them what it is, I'm like, no, because like, if I took your order, I'd be really frustrated. And we can't say no to you. So yes, it's definitely, it's like, oh my goodness. What's your order? Ask. I'll tie you off, Cameron. What's one thing you'll never miss about working there?

Oh my gosh, my hands hurting. Cause I cook for hours on end since like such a repetitive motion. So I'm excited to end my palace. How'd you get into working there in the first place? My husband works there as well, but that's not how we met or anything. But yeah, we had family, friends, and we just love it.

It's a fun job. Is he still working there? He does. He is still a manager there, and yes. Amazing. I know that you're planning on helping your family, and you have a lot of plans for this money, but what's the extraneous thing that you wanna do

with this million dollars? Really, honestly, I haven't even thought that far. I just wanna make sure. You want a purchase? No. Like a bag? No, I'm not. Everything's from Shein that I buy,

so all the clothes on the show are from Shein. I think just wanting to make sure my family's okay and then my husband and I wanna start a family hopefully in the future soon. So just moving closer to my parents and yeah. That's it. That's so wholesome. I'm like buying an island now.

Have you been able to keep in touch with any of your friends from the show and specifically the finalists. Obviously you guys were close. Have there been any reaching out being like, hey, I'll take like half of that or anyone trying to like guilt you into splitting the money or anything like that?

There is a ton of legal stuff before we even got on the show that we could not do that. We had to sign things. Yeah, so that is not in it, but we all still keep in contact. We have a group message that we all still talk in, and then of course, Corey and Sam are the ones I talk to the most.

Do they ever ask you a question and be like, is that the truth? Yeah, they're definitely still salty sometimes. They're like, well, Kara can pay. Yeah, they joke around. Can you explain to me, because especially early on, like Lauren, right? Lauren was the first millionaire from the Midwest,

very sweet, she struggled with the lying. I definitely think it was a huge mistake by admitting that she was a millionaire. That being said, why was everyone so angry at her for admitting to it, and then like, her for admitting to it and then like, but you lied to us and she was the millionaire. It's just like, were people leaning into that? Why were people getting so upset with people lying?

Because we know why you're lying. This isn't a show about character. This is a show about if you're given a free pass, if you're told that like lying and manipulation's okay in this world, like you're gonna do it. And then like, it seemed to get used against people when everyone was playing the same game. Like what was your read on that?

Yes, I thought that was really funny. Honestly, I would go back into my confessionals. I'm like, is that not the same game that I'm playing here because we are, you're lying, like, but that not the same game that I'm playing here? Because we are, you're lying, but that's the game. So how are you getting mad at her? And then another thing too is when they said they wanted to vote the millionaire off,

but then they wanna vote Lauren off. I'm like, you can't, which one is it? You gotta pick, you know? You can't go back and forth. So yes, it was actually really funny. I was confused. Is there anyone there in your mind that felt like

kinda got screwed over with their exit? What do you mean? I don't know. I just think like some exits that maybe were just more like maybe their clue was, it just felt like they just had some bad luck. It was more bad luck rather than a bad decision. I felt like Phil got himself kicked out cause I think he had some bad luck. It was more bad luck rather than a bad decision. I felt like Phil got himself kicked out

because I think he had some poor game playing where I felt like other people, it was just more bad luck. What about poor Harry in the beginning? Oh yes. He just wanted to pray over lunch and they were like, secret agenda. I know, he was like the sacrificial lamb.

Rest in peace Harry. I felt like he deserved to go. I grew a prayer, like in a room where you're supposed to not stand out or do anything odd, when everyone knows that people have these secret missions and the first thing he does is like, let's all hold hands and pray. It's like, huh, what were you doing?

That's why it's so sad. What a gift he gave. And that's just Harry though. Harry sent us all pineapples just a couple days ago from Hawaii. It's just Harry. So sweet. He got punished for being a sweet guy. Yeah, what game he's coming to play. Do you know if Sydney and Chris are like hanging out? Wasn't that a little bit of their storyline that maybe they were into each other?

They're great friends for sure. I think they do still hang out. Sydney had Jamie and Kyle and Chris come hang out with her in Arizona. So they are still really close, but I think they're just friends. So no showmances? No showmances at all.

Does Chris know that? Well, I was kidding. No, he admires Sid. I'm sure you've been asked, like, what's the thing that, I'm just kidding. No, he admires Sid. I'm sure you've been asked, what's the thing that, I mean, you're not gonna buy any purses or anything like that, but is there something that, I don't know, I guess what did this winning this money mean to you?

Oh, it just meant so much, because it wasn't just for me, it was for my whole family. And it's just to make sure that everybody's okay. That's, I think, what we all want in life is that our family's gonna be okay. And we just have always been hit left and right growing up, one thing after another. So now finally like, ooh, we can see the bright side.

It's awesome. How is your dad doing today? Oh, he's doing really well. He's in remission and yeah, he bawled his eyes out and he's just, he's like, I knew you could do it, I had no doubt and it was really, really sweet. How fast did you binge it or did you try to pace it out and who did you watch it with?

Yeah, we watched it the same time the world did and luckily I had my family. My husband and I watched it at midnight and then the day of my sister and her family threw a party for me, which is really sweet. That's so fun. You seem like you have such a good group of people around you, like really supportive,

very much there for you, a good family, good friends. And that's really beautiful to see. Thank you. I know I count my blessings every day because it's really awesome. You honestly felt like the perfect person to win this prize with your background, and it was kind of fascinating too,

because early on, Sam, she's the cop, and then you had, her name escapes me, the poker player. Lydia, Lydia. Lydia? Yeah, and there seemed to be a lot of people they casted based off of their professions, giving them some kind of angle into reading people, manipulating people, yada yada. And then as you're like, I work at In-N-Out.

And it's like there's nothing specific about your background that would give you a watch out for her, and yet you were the deadliest in the best possible way, player there. Did that give it an extra kind of excitement? Like, and did you even realize that going in? Because like, as when they're, when they're airing it, they're make it seem like everyone was casted based off of the sophisticated background.

And here you are, just like this very innocent, very sweet person who's like, what does Kara do in here? You know, and then you end up winning the whole thing. sweet person who's like, what does Kara do in here? You know, and then you ended up winning the whole thing. I think they were shocked too, because they didn't realize that I was such a big fan of games and when I got in there, I surprised myself. I was like, wow, I could really do this. Like this is something I've studied

and I am just this quiet person naturally, but I can make other game moves to get me to the end. And yeah, it was, I'm just a burger flipper and, you know, I'm talking, lying against a cop here who would have thought. Who's in your Mount Rushmore of game players? Oh, goodness. So many people. There's just like, ah, there's so many good game players, but Suri, Parvati, Boss and Rob,

those are some good ones, but I definitely have a list. Tyson. Those are good. Yeah. Maybe now that you're the winner of this show, maybe we can get you on Traders next. I would love that. That would be so much fun.

I definitely have a different gameplay going into it. But I would always trust my intuition. I know, but that's okay. We can weasel our way out somehow. What was something like during this experience outside of winning that you were like shocked that you were able to accomplish? Like looking back and you're like, wow, I did that.

Oh my gosh, just being on the show. Yeah. Yes. Because I just never really put myself out there and I'm the type of person that just does things for everybody else but myself. And so finally making that decision, my husband gave me the big push. He's like, listen, you're always gonna do things

for everybody else and I need you to take this moment before we have kids and you need to do the dang thing and just put yourself out there. You never know. And that's, I put myself out there with the big brother video. And then a week later, I got a text from for this show. And now you're a millionaire.

So it worked out. It did work out and it was just still so crazy. I feel like I'm dreaming. That's incredible. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. No, it's such a heartwarming story.

It was such a fun show. I'm excited. Thanks to Jordan Davis for giving us the scoop on the show. But it was really fun watching you, Kara. Congratulations. We love an underdog story. You definitely were like a silent assassin. It was like you played a flawless game. It was so exciting and so, you know, just cool to see you win. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I am curious real fast before we let you go, because you watch Big Brother. Are you following the whole Mickey Rourke

and JoJo of it all? A little bit. I saw a couple of things online that I didn't know she was going on the UK celebrity Big Brother. That was news to me. I did, she texted me and told me when she was going, but then she's really made a splash.

Well, some would say Mickey Rourke also made a splash and now he's gone, so. Yeah, he's a- Are we shocked also made a splash and now he's gone. So, yeah, he's a, are we shocked? Like a man of British white man, he's like 70. Oh, well, are we shocked?

This is like the way he's behaving. He's just old and problematic. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't excuse it, but it definitely is like not shocking to me. I do have one question for you. Um, in the show you mentioned, um, he asked you to lie to him and you said, I was never arrested. Thanks for asking this question.

I've never been arrested. Oh my goodness. Thank goodness he gave me a practice one because there you go. I'm not a liar in real life. I actually really struggle with that. And so when he had asked me that, and that came out of my mouth, instead of saying I've been arrested, I said I've never been arrested.

And as soon as it left my mouth and he left the room, I was like, wait, did I just tell him I've been arrested? And I was like, no, they won't show it because I haven't been arrested. And then they show it. I'm like, I've never been arrested, I swear. Your family's like, wait a second, what's going on here? Everybody looked at me like,

you got something to tell me? No, I didn't. But that was my first like lie and I completely messed it up. So at least I got practice before heading out. Was it actually a lie? Cause you told the truth. I, wait, no, I've never been arrested. That is the truth.

Yeah. Yeah, so he was asking me to lie. And I don't know why in my head, I've never been arrested. That is the truth. Yeah. Yeah, so he was asking me to lie and I don't know why in my head I forgot the never. It's okay, lying just doesn't come naturally to you. Exactly, exactly. I really struggle with it. But if you put a million dollars in front of you. That makes sense why you screwed up though.

I get it. They should have put like a little spoiler at the bottom like Cara's never been arrested. Yeah, asterisk. Yeah. Yes. Oh, well thank you for clearing that up, Leia. Great follow up question so we don't think our girl never been arrested. Yeah, asterisk. Yeah. Yes. So thanks for asking. Well, thank you for clearing that up, Leia.

Great follow up question so we don't think our girl is a convicted criminal or a felon. Kara, thanks again for coming on and congratulations. It's such an amazing win. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate you guys for having me. Well, we appreciate you coming on. Thank you.

And thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guests, Kara and Lisa Traeger. Check out her new special Night Owl out on Netflix also and stay on Netflix. And if you haven't watched Million Dollar Secret, spoiler, Kara wins, but it's a fun show and be sure to check it out. We will be back on Thursday. See you then. Bye.