The Viall Files - E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

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We did say next year, we were like, next year, our captions will be jokey. We went heavy. We went heavy and serious and sentimental. So much love. Honestly, the night before. Honestly, after our second post, we were both kind of disgusted with each other's love. It was just like, oh God, get over yourselves. I thought the truth behind it is that Nick was like,

do you wanna have a competition? And I was like, oh, with what? And he was like, who can? Cause we got massages, but we had to go one at a time. So he was like, while the other person's in the massage, let's see who can make the best anniversary post. Who can win the anniversary post competition? Like who can find the best photos

and who can write the best caption? It was a competition, who do you think won? First I wanna know who went first. I went first. Nick went first. Of course. Natalie was the black and white photo first. Natalie definitely was always gonna win

the photo department because she's better at curating said photos and she is more just generally present and mindful about those things in general and saves them. I spent more time on the message and then I kinda whipped through my photo book and I was like, these are fine. I went through my favorites.

That was like- You're like, this is literary. Yeah. He's a poet. You're a poet. He's a poet. It was grammatically correct and spelled correctly. Yeah, it was.

Some of it. I mean, what I read. I saw a couple. I saw. I tried. There are some spelling mistakes. There's some spacing. I was like, I kind of wish we had done this.

I was sweating in an infrared sauna while writing that. And I may or may not have also just been very chilled and very relaxed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thinking of what you're putting down. Who do you all think won? Who had the most comments? I think Natalie won the photo department

and I think Nick won the caption department. So we're both winners. Was it us? Yeah. We were both winners. I said after we left, I said, so who do you think won the Instagram war? And it goes, war?

This was just like a fun, friendly little like challenge. I believe they say war is fair in love and war. They do. It was a very fun, very enjoyable anniversary weekend, but it was like, it was interesting because you don't really know. And I was like, all right. And she was like, okay you don't really know. And they're like, all right.

And she's like, okay. Haven't heard this word yet. You didn't feel a lot of almost in a way self-induced pressure for your anniversary. It's like, it's your first wedding anniversary. It's like, you've had it. I'm old enough to know that birthdays aren't that big of a deal.

To not get that excited about my birthday, because I have my wife's birthday to worry about these days. And I have now Mother's Day and Father's, well, I don't have Father's Day, but like, and then Mother's Day is like two weeks away. Valentine's Day. Yeah, Valentine's Day, you know what I'm saying? But your first wedding anniversary,

you know, you wanna, it's that balance between doing what you enjoy the most, but making sure that you are making this weekend or day feel meaningful, like feel unique, you know? And I think there was a mix of us figuring out what that was in real time. I feel like you guys did a lot this weekend. We did, we went to Stagecoach on Friday.

We met with our friends Tyler and Tate and spent time with them at Stagecoach. And then it got like really windy and cold and we saw Lana which was great and we saw George Burge who's joining us on Wednesday came out and performed live with Lana that was very cool and we saw Zach Warren again, which like I know like bad boyfriend, good musician.

Did you see Mom Talk? At Stagecoach we did not. They were all over there. But like, you know, it's one of those things, like Stagecoach, Coachella, same thing, festival, like it's fun, but incredibly like inconvenient. It got incredibly cold. Like it's a lot of things where you just have to be like,

we're having fun, we're having fun, while you're freezing the whole time, being like, we chose to do this on our anniversary. You know what I'm saying? Which also, I find it very confusing that they rearrange the festival every year. We weren't there last year. Yeah, the last time we went, they've rearranged it.

So when we, I just memorized like where everything was and I get there and it's like, nope, jumbled it up. Like try to figure out where your station is now. Stagecoach, if you're listening, we don't like the new layout. If you care what we think, we're just saying, you know, the two years ago, the layout, much better. That happened to my Trader Joe's recently. It's really upsetting. It's frustrating, right?

You just memorized where everything is. Is it the same as Coachella's setup? It was two years ago, different this time. So Man's Day is a different place. I don't know. Don't even want to get into it. It's not really the point. Then we came back.

We woke up Saturday morning in the desert, bright and sunny. Hot, beautiful. People were laying up at full at 8 a.m. Natalie did a lot of planning. Natalie did more planning for our anniversary than I did. I just wanna give my wife credit. Wait, have you seen the TikTok trend?

That it's like, I'm Sierra and I've made the plans and then you would be like. I'm Natalie and I, yeah. I'm Nick, I'm Natalie and've got the rings for our anniversary I'm Nick and I'm Natalie and I drove everywhere this weekend I'm Nick and I got high anyways yeah so we left sunny Palm Springs Saturday morning and Natalie did not know this at the time but when Natalie made our anniversary plans, she in her mind had a vision of sweating her ass off

in a bikini poolside getting sun. Ooh, yeah. Sounds like a fun weekend. Doesn't that scream anniversary? It screams honeymoon, it screams anniversary, it screams like vacation. This is a really good vacation. I felt it.

But then we woke up and had to leave the desert based on the plans that my wife and our party planning person planned for us. Turns out the weather in LA, even though two and a half hours away from Palm Spring, different. Oh my God. The pouring rain.

Freezing and pouring rain. So Natalie is in her mind thinking, this is not what I had, this is not what I planned, this is not what I planned, this is not what I planned, this is not what I planned, this is not what I planned! And then- I had to recalibrate my wife's mood. As we're driving home, we're driving in the rain,

we're like, oh, like how crazy would it be if like the place we're staying at was like sold out of massages for the weekend? That would be crazy. And then we're like, hmm, maybe we should call and book one. So Nick calls and they're like, sold out. Sorry, we have some Monday afternoon. We're like, oh, not gonna work.

And honestly, our whole reason for going is just to get rubbed on. Yeah. We love a massage. Okay. Well. That's great. I would say you were happy.

A professional one. Yes. Professionally rub one on. No Jesse Solomon. That's great. I would say you were happy. A professional one. Yes. Professionally rub one on. No like Jesse Solomon. No Jesse Solomon. 37 minutes in a room. No, no, no, no, like his porn search or whatever it was. He loves a good massage.

Massage. Oh, no tan lines. No, that was Carl. No, that was Carl. And I gotta say, I just wanna stand up for Carl here. I just like, like. He's honest. He's honest.

Well, it's also niche, but like. You're into tan lines? No, I'm just saying why is Jesse and Kyle making fun of Carl's tan line when Jesse's like, well, I like massage porn. I feel like massage porn's a little bit weirder than a girl with some tan lines. Yeah, what fantasy, Jesse, are you trying to elicit

or invoke? Did you ask for a foot massage, and that's how the toe ended up in her mouth? You freak. Yeah, I don't. Anyways, so there's someone out of massages. So I'm in a bad mood because it's pouring rain and there's no massages for the weekend.

So I'm like, oh my God, like the whole weekend is just like ruined. It's ruined in my mind. But then I stepped in and I found another hotel in Malibu because that's where we were staying at a different hotel in Malibu, and I'm like, hey, do you guys have some massages available?

And they're like, yes, we do, back to back. Oh, lovely. Can't do couples, but we can do back to back. I was like, right, we just wanna be rubbed on inside. Which gave us room for our Instagram war. Absolutely. Competition. Y'all were driving. But then, the place we were staying called us back

and said, hey, something just opened up. Couples Massage is available for you, and it is an hour and a half after our singles massage. And I was like, book them all. Let's just do them all. Stop it. Did you really? Oh my God.

I love that for you guys. I just wanna get rubbed down all day. I'm jealous. So we woke up, now I got a massage while I poured my heart out on Instagram. Yeah. And had very few grammatical errors, which I'm very proud of.

Um, I am. You should be. Natalie went, and while I got massaged, and then we scurried over to the place we were staying and got a couples massage. We thought so. Wow. It was really great. And then, but we were supposed to stay last night

at this place. And then we ended our staycation because we wanted to see our daughter. And it felt like we were wasting money. Yeah. You are like 45 minutes away. Yeah, you would have had to wake up super were wasting money. Yeah. You are like 45 minutes away. Yeah, you would have had to wake up super early this morning.

Yeah. Well, it just like, that's what I meant when I started talking about the weekend where it was just like, again, like there's that balance between like, it's our first wedding anniversary. We wanted to make it feel special and unique. We didn't like, we obviously were very busy.

We didn't have time to like, you know, do some crazy trip. We did a staycation, which we don't really do a lot of. And we're also people who just really love being home, being comfortable. So it's like this weird thing. We went to a very beautiful place. It was wonderful. It was great.

But it wasn't our house. And our house is 45 minutes away. So was our daughter. And it's like we- I think it's you guys having a baby too, that it's just kind of like, how do you fully relax when you're like, I could be home and doing this. Yeah, it was like, I'm watching the baby monitor

as like my mom's trying to put her to sleep and she's like kind of fighting it and crying. And I'm like, should we just go? Let's just go home, right? We should just put her to bed. We'll be home in 45 minutes. I can rock her. I'll put her to bed.

Everything's fine. And so yeah, we ended our staycation early. And honestly, we had a great time last night. We had a great time. Being at home with our family. I have the craziest story to tell y'all though. Please. The other day, I leave the studio.

Should we talk about our gifts first though? Oh, sure. Yeah, as another thing I was like, you can't do that to us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was my idea, you did it. The gifts or they're leaving the studio. Gifts, so, all right, so our anniversary is weeks away

and then I'm like, fuck, another fucking thing. I have to get a fucking gift for it. What's going on in my head? You gotta make this part of your love language now. Truly, he's got to. It ain't changing, he's got to. So my sneaky ass was like, I honestly think this is a really good idea.

Cause like, I don't like what, I'm supposed to buy you a fucking gift, like and then you buy me a gift on the anniversary. And so what we get like stuff. But it's your one year anniversary. I know, because who I said, let's do a gift together. Let's do a gift that we can share. Yeah, it's like he's being sneaky.

Like I knew what he was doing the whole time. I have no idea where this is going. We got matching rings. So he was like, what should we do? Should we like, like a trip? And I was like, well, I already booked our staycation on my credit card. So I feel like I've already given a gift to us.

And he was like, yeah, no, but like I paid for that too. And I was like, well, not really. Cause it was on my personal credit card. And so then he tried to take credit for that, which I wasn't allowing him to. And so he's like, what if we did like, I don't know, I'm like, is there like a Percy one? And he's like, no. Is there a Percy one to see me in?

No. Are you dying to see me in like a new product? You want YSL from head to toe? So then finally I'm like, what if we found like a matching piece of jewelry? I, no, it was my idea. Whatever. And so it's like, we can do like bracelets

and necklace or ring. So I reach out to my friend at Real Fine Studio. She owns this really cute like boutique fine jewelry. I got my like signet ring for River, the little birthstone for River from her. I was like, do you have anything? She sent me these rings. They have two diamonds on them,

which immediately as we all know, like things in twos have become very significant and special to us because of the miscarriages. So I was like, oh, that's so sweet. Like it's kind of like both of our babies that we lost within the year, the first year of us being married. So I was like, let's engrave April 27th, 2024 on the inside of the band. She's like, do you want to put Rivers Burstone in there? I'm like, no, she happened before the marriage. We're going to keep this strictly first year of marriage lover, but like, no.

She's a bastard. Yeah. I'm like, no, yeah. Which someone did comment on our wedding video and be like, wearing a full length veil after fully birthing a child seems ironic. I'm like, all right slut-shamer. That's not outrageous.

Okay, so you hate fashion. Sorry, sorry. But anyway, so we got these rings and they're very special and they're very beautiful and now we're matching. Yeah, so. Beautiful. So my crazy story.

I'm leaving the studio and we're about to head off for this weekend of events. So I was like, I need to go to the grocery store and get like my mom and River fully stocked for the weekend. So I go to Whole Foods, pushing the cart around in the produce. I'm figuring out what like plan and all the Rivers meals in my heads and then in my heads, my multiple heads.

And then I go to the meats and I'm getting her some meat. And this man looks at me and he goes, excuse me, were you just over there? And I was like, what? I mean, probably. Yeah, he's like, were you just over there with all the fruit? And I was like, oh yeah. What did you do? I was. And he was like, I just, sorry. I just felt like every time I looked up, I only saw you. And I was like, oh. And he was like, sorry if that's you. And I was like, oh, he was like, sorry if that's weird.

And I was like, no, yeah, it's crazy. Can I get a half a pound of beef? And so then I'm like, anyways, so I take my meat, I go down the baby aisle, I get some diapers, I get some snacks for River. And then I go down the next, I'm literally, I'm going down each aisle, right? And I go down the beans or whatever it is and he's coming down. And so I'm like, ha ha,

hey, you know, like what a coincidence. See each other again, how funny. And I keep it moving and he's like, as he's walking past me, he goes, next time I'm going to ask for your name. I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. So then I go down the next aisle, he follows me down that aisle and he's like, what a coincidence. Like this is truly fate. Oh no. What does this guy look like? He is a short European like French man.

So accent? I would say an accent. Yes, I cannot do a French, so I won't be trying. But he's like late thirties, early forties, probably. Irrelevant regardless. Irrelevant, but yes, short little French man. And so he's like, what a coincidence, this is such fate. And I was like, oh, or you just like watched me go down

this aisle and you followed me down here, but sure. And he goes, what is your name? I said, Natalie. And then he goes to write in his calendar with an H. I said, no, not with an H. What? The American way. He goes, and number. Like he was taking a reservation. Literally, like he's booking me and I go, oh no, I'm married and I have children.

He goes, what? You look way too young. Sorry, you just look too young. And I was like, well, thank you. With the diapers in the car. No. And so we keep going and he goes, next time, Natalie with no age. And I was like, there won't be one.

I'm going to do different whole foods. For sure. Thanks. So then I'm like, I finish. I'm like, what a fucking freak. So then I finished going around. There's one aisle open and he's in the fucking checkout. And I'm like, nope, I'm taking another lap.

And it was just like the way that this man was trying to sell this as like, what a coincidence. We're just, it's just such fate. Meanwhile, he's stalking you in the grocery store. Like you're literally watching what aisle I go down and then following me and being like, oh. I like to think he's sitting at one end of the hallway going one, two, three, okay. And like runs down to the end. Is there a world though's like, ah-hoo-hoo! I like to think he's sitting at one end of the hallway going one, two, three, okay, and runs down to the end of it all.

Is there a world though where, I mean, okay, let's say you set the stage, you're a single person, and there's a guy who tries this, clearly a move. There's no world in which you're charmed by it. No. Oh, I would take it. I feel like, especially grocery stores, I've had that happen in a Target,

and you're just kind of like, I'm here running errands. You know what I think his flaw is? What? He was too confident at the point in which she asked for the number. Because like, all right, let's, you know how everyone's always saying like, I just wanna meet someone at the grocery store, you know?

What if this was just like a guy who just like wasn't paying attention to her ring finger or what's in her cart, whatever. And he was just like, thought she was cute and maybe he's just trying to make a move. But like her version is like, he's fucking stalking. I'm just saying what if he just saw a person and then was thinking, I gotta get the guts,

I gotta build up the courage to finally make the move. So like by the time he did that, he was like, end number? Like he's done it a million times as opposed to like awkwardly being like, all right, the other five times I chickened out, but now I'm gonna finally like just be like, hi and introduce myself. He lacked a little bit of awkwardness and nervousness,

I feel like in his game. It was less meet cute more. More like I've done this 30 times. More like I wanna sign you up for our subscription service. Yeah. I'm gonna ask for your email next. Yeah. It was very-

More do you wanna become your own boss? Number? Yeah. Yeah, very culty. I'm just not into that. I'm like, hit on me in a place where, not now, but when I was single, I'm like, hit on me in a place where it would be expected.

Most likely I ran here with no makeup on. I'm just trying to get some errands done. I'm not looking for a date at 12, 30 p.m. in the afternoon. I'm just not. Speaking of date, recently, or not too recently, a few months ago, Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively went out to dinner

and they seemed like friends. And this morning, I know we haven't really covered this story too much lately because it's still toxic and whatever, our position, ours are our position. But Travis Kelce unfollowed Ryan Reynolds, according to TMZ. Which is like a statement. Listen, it doesn't change, everyone's gonna be like,

oh my God, maybe Travis Kelsey feels a certain way towards Ryan, I don't know, maybe, it doesn't seem like an accident, Travis follows like 1300 people. My big thing is like at this point, despite them doing a double date not too long ago, despite the connection and friendship between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively, at this point the only thing that has been

coming out is like you know friends of or speculation more or less rumors but like you know Travis has his own massive show and podcast with his brother he's obviously a very public figure and he's like going out in the limelight like why at this point involve like now he's involving himself in a story that you would think he's got everything about that's coming out of like Taylor Swift camp has suggested that like, you know, who knows what's true or not,

but like she didn't appreciate being brought into this like messy conflict between Justin and Blake. And then- It's like no one has mentioned Travis Kelsey's name at all. No one's mentioned Travis Kelsey. I was not thinking about him in regards to this whatsoever. He was even dating Taylor during this whole thing. Well, maybe that's the whole thing.

Maybe he wants perhaps. Maybe, but it doesn't seem weird, like regardless of why he did it or. He could have muted her. Like, yeah, you know, he's dating the most famous, like has been through this world, knows every trick of the trade, knows what's gonna get pressed, what's not gonna get pressed.

Like him unfollowing is going, like he could have just been like, you know what, I don't wanna see his stuff anymore, like mute. But no, he wants to be part of the story, which I find crazy. It's up, it's petty. So the, well, the headline is that he unfollowed

Ryan Reynolds specifically. So Ryan Reynolds still follows Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey has like 1,600 people that he's following. So Blake Lively doesn't follow Travis Kelsey, but that's like a separate. But she may have never. She may have never, yeah, that was never part of the headline. Yeah.

But it's just like. He's being like roped into it now because you chose to like publicly unfollow. For example, obviously you guys know I've been very critical of James Kennedy since his arrest with Ali, right? And then when that came out, we came on the show and I had very strong opinions about James

and his character and things like that. The last thing I thought about in that moment was like, oh, I need to unfollow James Kennedy. And so I followed him for I think a bit of time. People did start to notice. And then I was like, yeah, I need to unfollow James Kennedy. And so I followed him for, I think, a bit of time. People did start to notice, and then I was like, yeah, I shouldn't follow this guy. And they were like, I really don't wanna follow him. But it just wasn't top of mind, you know what I'm saying?

It was more like, oh, yeah, I guess so. But at this point, if it is, maybe Travis feels a certain way about Ryan, about, who knows? I'm just saying, it is like no one asked for it, no one was paying attention to it, and that was a choice he made. It just seems like almost a really weird, petty move to insert yourself in a story that you,

everything about their actions has been, we don't wanna be involved. Honestly, I don't know what's happening going on, but, and again, it's just me. I'm in the position of my life right now where I can afford to be my friends' friends when they really need a friend. That's kind of how I look at it, you know?

Especially when people are like, you know, when I feel like I can be the only one to have their back. Like I can take the shrapnel, I can take the criticism, you know, like I'm good. And it seems like everything about, that's coming from Taylor's camp is like, this is too, I don't, I don't really want to is too much. I don't really want to part. I'm just too busy being, you know, Aira's tour. Like this is messy and I don't want this. And I guess that's a choice. I mean, again,

and maybe she has a certain strong opinion. It's just a weird move. I don't know. It's just why Travis wants to be a part of the story by doing something so trivial as to unfollow Instagram is a choice. It's a choice. It's a choice. It also was a choice for you to say that my forehead was big. I was going to say. Armani. We listen and we don't judge.

Armani. Well, you have an exceptionally small forehead, which is ironic since you have this fear of your forehead. And I just had no real good digs that I could come up with. So I just like, I went with the low hanging fruit, which is your obnox of your forehead. And I just had no real good digs that I could come up with. So I just like, I went with the low-hanging fruit. Which is your obnoxiously large forehead. Nick was scrambling. You were reading him to Filth and he was just like, well, your forehead's big.

Yeah. Like, I don't think we're talking about real things that I annoyed you about. Like... He's like, that haircut was a good haircut. Literally. You loved it. Would you rather a three head?

No, honestly I am. I've gotten to a point now where like, I think seeing River have my chin has made me love my chin, you know, because it's like, and I've, I've hated my chin my whole life and it's crazy because I got my chin from my mother and I know that my mother used to always be like, sorry, honey, like that was me, you know? And so I've, I was bullied for it for a lot of years. And so like, finally I got to a point where I look at my daughter and I see my chin

and I'm like, no, wait, it looks so cute on her. Like, I love it. I gave her that chin. And I think that same thing about my forehead now. You've always had a great forehead. But people were in the comments being like, oh, they're definitely fucking getting divorced. Wow. You've always had a great forehead. But people were in the comments being like, oh, they're definitely fucking getting divorced.

Wow, like Nick talked about her body parts. No, it's like the real fans always show up first. You're right or die. They're like, oh my God, we love you, couple goals. Oh, I love how you guys make fun of each other. Oh my God. So silly, so funny. So silly, so funny.

And then the haters kind of show up. Be like, oh, what's this? You guys are fighting? Oh, trouble in paradise. So, all right, no, that felt personal. No, there was- Oh, no, they hate each other. Yeah, there was truth behind that pain.

Oh. Yeah. I'm like, thank God for you somewhere. It's someone in the middle of nowhere for clarifying that I am not happy here, I guess, and I'm not happy in my marriage. I forgot that you sitting in your small town of Roanoke, know what's going on.

Specific. That's a real case. Know what's going on at our home. Bad things happened in Roanoke. Yeah. Sorry. I've never been. Oh, American Horror Story. I hear it's lovely.

American Horror Story. Well, I did take Justin to the MRT party a couple weeks ago. Oh yeah. I did, it was cute. Did you feel like an employee or did you feel like my friend? You did address me as a friend, which is nice, but then I also held your back for the photo shoot. So I mean, I played both parts.

Oh, Alex. The photographer's like, can you hold that? Or can you scoot out of the way? I was like, yeah. No, yeah, for sure. Out of the shot. But I enjoyed it. I appreciated it. How was the party? It was a lot of fun.

Leslie Bibb was there. Who else was who else? Who played her friend? Brenda Song, Allie and AJ. Star Static Cast. Did you talk to anybody, Justin? I did. Yeah. Bailey Madison was there. Love her. Yeah. Bailey Madison. And the whole time she started, she was like, Cece, Cece. Yeah, Cece talks about you.

And I was like, who is Cece? And then I eventually was like, oh, CC. Yeah, CC talks about you. And I was like, who is CC? And then eventually I was like, oh, Sierra. Should we be calling you CC? No, that's just like my nickname for, well, it's always been my nickname since I was a kid, but like, uh, Caitlin, her sister, her daughters call me CC since they were little. And so all the little kids can't say Sierra, obviously.

So we start off with CC and then it just sticks. Okay. Yeah. It was a good event though, it was one of those events where they like pass around like the food you can eat, but it's literally the size of a penny. Or derbs.

Yeah, but it's like smaller than an order. It's very passing. Although the serving staff are hot models. Of course, of course. Like do you wanna- Struggling actors. Do you wanna goat cheese with balsamic on it? Like fuck yeah I do.

Sure. I didn't, but now the way that you said that. Let me try it. Well, speaking of, speaking of eating, Gwyneth Paltrow is eating carbs and cheese again. Woo! Welcome back, Gwyn. I don't know, I'm kind of upset about it.

I'm like, is this giving end to the world? It's kind of, it's apocalyptic time. If Gwyneth Paltrow is at the point in her life where she needs to eat carbs, what hope is there for any of us? Listen, I just think she hasn't had like a stomach ache in a while, and she was like, I need a little dare. She's like, I've heard all about these hot girls

with their hot tummy issues. And I kinda wanna be part of that. Guys, can I give a little update on my 2025 diet? Oh, your water fast? Well, it started with a water fast, but I'm happy to report that I've been pretty good about like almost no sugar. And I haven't worked out that much in the past six weeks.

And I've never been more. Svelte. I'm just saying like. Snatched. I've had a couple cheat days. I tried my mom's homemade chocolate chip cookies. I also, I crushed some Tic Tac Chewy's that are delicious. And I figured we're more than worth it.

But other than a couple just moments, like I've completely cut out like, just like, you know, like Arnold Palmer's, I would go to like a restaurant and crush four Arnold Palmer's. You know how much sugar that is in a lemonade? A lot. A lot. I haven't had a single chocolate croissant in 2025.

No donuts, no desserts, no popsicles. The problem was I ended 2024 eating like I imagined I could eat when I was 12, when I became an adult. The way I imagined I'd would, oh, when I can buy my own goddamn know, like the way I imagine I'd would, oh, like when I can buy my own goddamn food, I'm gonna, you know what I'm saying? That's how I was, that's how I wrapped up 2024.

I would eat dinner and then I'd crush a box of Cocoa Pebbles and I'd top it off with a Popsicle. That was nuts. And when it comes to bread, I'm mostly sourdough. Nice. That's good for you. Love sourdough. Got healthy.

Yes, and I'm, again, I haven't ran, I haven't worked out, and I've never been leaner and less puffy. I'm just saying if, you know. One Gwyneth dies, another returns. You don't need Gwyneth, you just follow this guy. Exactly, Nick is the new Gwyneth Paltrow. You can eat meat, you can even eat breads.

All I have changed is I have cut out the Arnold Palmer's and desserts from my diet. What about coffee? Lots of fruit, I'm back on coffee big time. the Arnold Palmer's and desserts from my diet. What about coffee? Lots of fruit. I'm back on coffee with big time. Yeah. Big time. Eject that shit.

A lot of fruits at night, a lot of grapes have been come my new candy. Oh, those are good. Do you put them in the freezer? I was gonna say. Frozen grapes. Oh, frozen grapes are so good. Frozen mango, little bit of tahini.

I don't eat mango. I will say grapes have a lot of sugar in it though, so you have to be careful. It's natural. It's natural. Well, some of them are. If you're you have to be careful. It's natural, it's natural. Well, some of them are. If you're getting the cotton candy grapes. Not those GMOs.

No, I'm buying fruit. Cotton candy grapes are technically good. Yeah. It's the fruit they sell in the South. They're not like injecting cotton candy. I'm just saying all I'm- What did you think that was? All I'm saying is I'm not eating simple sugars.

I'm proud of you. Thank you, Sierra. I would never. So I'm very proud of you. Yeah. We have. I would never, so I'm very proud of you. We have a great episode lined up for you. Later this episode, Georgia Hasarati returns the Vile Fowl. She's in the new hit Netflix show Battle Camp, which is now streaming and crushing it on Netflix,

if you want to join. But she returns. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Lots of fun talking to Georgia. She's always fun and a little messy. It's always really enjoyable. And coming up shortly, Kelsey Anderson is coming solo.

We didn't invite Joey. Okay. No, I didn't. I was like, you know what, Kelsey, she's out there. She's making moves. She's potentially getting invites at Coachella. We don't know. So we said, Kelsey, come, we don't want Joey.

But Kelsey Anderson is joining us shortly. But before she does, let's talk a little Summer House. This was a fun episode. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. Schwartz. Schwartz was there, Schwartz came. Schwartz is like the guy who's like,

he's trying to find his like Marvel show he wants to be on. You know, it's just like which superhero iteration does he want to be a part of? And he's like right now just kind of scouring the Bravo universe. He's trying to find out. He's part of the multiverse right now. Yeah, which Spider-Man is,

which Spider-Man would Schwartz be? Is he Tom Holland? Is he Andrew Garfield? Is he Tobey Maguire? I don't know, but I kinda wanted to see him make a quick cameo on Love Hotel. I think he's Tobey Maguire. Yeah.

He's Tobey Maguire, because you'll just never forget him. Exactly, yeah. And he's so cute. And he always looks a version of 12. Yeah, sometimes a baby girl can be an adult man. And he's one of those faces that you see and you're just like, ah.

You know, you just like immediately smile. You're like, ah, Schwarzie. He's always smiling. Even when he does like really bad things, you're all like, mm. Yeah, you just wanna like, ah. Not a great episode for Jesse. Fantastic episode for Lexi. Yeah, I'm crushed.... Not a great episode for Jesse, fantastic episode for Lexi.

Yeah. Does Jesse still get his cancer pass after this episode? I know. Dropped the cancer pass. Jesse, look what you've done. I can't control what my idiot friends say. Like, girl, yes you can. So you just want me to be a robot?

Yeah. Every line in the book. Every line. Well, I was gonna ask you to be my girlfriend at the end of the weekend. But now after this. Now I mean I know we met each other's parents but. It was like one after the other.

It was the fuck boy playbook of excuses. Like we were all just getting PTSD being like, oh, fired, shots fired. Lexi was good though, she held her ground. She was incredible. She said robot, no, I never said that. A star is born. She was incredible.

I think anyone watching, men, ladies, whatever, whoever you are, whoever you are dating, if you wanna know how to handle yourself in conflict, especially in early stages of a situationship of what this is, just look at Lexi. Number one, most important trait, calm. She remained incredibly calm when being faced with a different version of her reality,

which would trigger most of us. She remained incredibly calm. And then she articulated herself so fantastically in a way where she was like, yeah, I mean, like, I guess that's a version, but here's like a different version of that story, which made incredible sense. It was wild, because, I guess that's a version, but here's like a different version of that story, which made incredible sense. Absolutely. It was wild, because it's a classic case

where you hear Jessie's version and you're like, oh my God, yeah, that is crazy to like, early on you wanna date someone, but man, like two weeks in, you're just like, I'm demanding they don't follow any women on Instagram. That seems a little hasty. And then you hear Alexi's version and she's like, well, I don't know, maybe just not follow 15 new women

since we've been hanging out, which is like, no that's a totally different story. Like. And when he was like, I can't control what my friends say or something like that and she was like, but your actions are making your friends feel icky. That was an absolute mic drop. Mic drop.

Oh my God, when she hit him with the, yeah, like, wait, it's not your friends acting a certain way, you're doing things, they feel a way about it, and they're communicating it with me, and it makes him feel icky, which is like, nothing any man wants to hear from a lady. And then for him to immediately throw all of his friends under the bus.

Well, I guess I just like can't trust my friends. Okay. Jesse, be fucking for real. At least he has West. West is in there and is like. But even West was like. But West was sitting with on the bed with the two of them kind of like feeding into it too. He was like, dude, we were in the car and he called her and then was like, all right, I'll call you in a bit.

It's like, we're going gonna be there in an hour. That's why I said, I think he was at first trying to defend Jessie. No, but he also took a west-side of the bus. And then that's what he said, yeah, he literally went, no, Jessie actually was on the phone and is actually needy and I'm like, he's the one creating all of this chaos

because he's not ready to commit, but he needs to make it so if he bails at any time, everybody knows she was crazy. He very is interested, he's very interested in the having a girlfriend. He's like the perks of a girlfriend. He's like, this is nice. She's pretty, I get to hang out with her.

I get the emotional support constantly every day. I get to call this person whenever I'm bothered. We also get to have some sex. It's a lot of fun. And then all of a sudden she was like, hey, listen, great. Here's some requests I need for as a boyfriend. He's like, a sudden she was like, hey, listen, great. Here's some requests I need for her as a boyfriend. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I did not know that this went both ways. I can't talk to women? This is crazy. What do you want me to do with my taste? I can't flirt with my very hot friend Sierra all the time. I just have to treat her like a human being. Are you kidding me? The way his brain couldn't process Sierra being like,

fine, you wanna throw me under the bus and act like I'm doing something to you, this is what it's like to not have me around. And then he's immediately like, Sierra's acting weird. Sierra's being like really weird towards me. I don't know what's going on. I do think she is acting weird. I don't think she's, I think she's playing into it too.

I'm just saying. Sure, I think my biggest issue with Jesse is like, he seems like a great guy. Like he seems like a good person to be friends with, but however, I have an issue where like, where a lot of men have this relationship with women that they are quote unquote friends with, but they are never friends with them. They see them as a potential, as potential. Are we talking about Jesse or are we talking about Jessie and Sierra? Jessie and Sierra. And it's like, you cannot actually be friends with a woman

when your only interest in them is like, whether they may not, whether they may wanna have sex with you. You know what the test is? This is real from a perspective of a man. If Sierra were to get naked in front of Jessie, Jessie would not look away. Yeah.

You're not friends. You know what I'm saying? I would say look away. Yeah. You're not friends. You know what I'm saying? I would say crazy going. Jesse wouldn't be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah, if I had my women friends that are like straight and I'm straight and we hang out, there could be another universe or version

where like maybe we dated. And I'm like, hey, we're just friends. If I walked into a room and like they are a close-up, I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Oh my God, Jesse would not. Just so we'd go, whoa! Is this an invitation? Yeah, he'd go, whoa!

And he would try to linger and keep talking, trying not to make it work. You look good. Yeah, he'd be like, oh my God, great tits. Yeah, they're like, Jesse, get the fuck out! Can you turn around really quick? It pisses me off, because then he's gonna be like, no, she's just my friend.

I'm like, no, you don't see her as a person. You see her as a potential, like, interest, and that is all she is to you. It's like, it just, it really infuriates me. Sorry to go back to the tan line porn, but I honestly thought that that was very wholesome of Carl. I did too. I love Carl.

You love Carl too much, though. No, I just, I think he's made a lot of growth, and I think that just like, that's such a wholesome thing versus incest. Yeah, he wasn't like, oh, I wanna see fucking schoolgirl. It was definitely no less or more weird than massage porn from Jesse. Or whatever the fuck West said.

They had him bleeped and all out. He's like, I can't even go back to normal porn. West is like, let me give all my subcategories. But you know what, he's honest. I agree, though, with you, though. In West, I. He's like, I can't even go back to normal boring. Let me give all my subcategories. But you know what? He's honest. Yeah, that was. I agree though with you though.

In West, Jesse and West are like, yeah, they're not, they're the fuck boy who someday is gonna be a husband. We watched Lady and the Tramp last night. Was there a daughter? Beautiful. It is. It also holds up by the way. What a transition.

Live action or animated? Animated, live action. Thank God. Thank God. Thank what? Animated only. We only show her movies from the 1920s. Yeah. Hey retro.

Didn't it come out like 1930 or something? No. 55, 1955. It's really old. All I knew is that it was really fucking old. 1955, yeah. That's crazy. It's historically accurate.

No, Lady and the Tramp. There's a whole, like the Tramp in the male dog is basically, they're slut shaming the male dog. And the whole version of it is just like, he's a dog. And he's just gonna be a dog until someone settles him down. And honestly, that's West and Jesse, which is like, as much as we're talking shit on them,

as much as West got his, basically,, as much as like West got his like, basically he got crucified last season. Crucified? Jesse, West did a little bit. He said the dramatics. No, I love it, I'm here for this. They didn't stop them from them doing them. You know what I'm saying?

Because they can get away with it. Because like we roll our eyes and criticize like shitty behaviors for men, but at the end of the day, like there always will be another lady who's gonna fall for their bullshit. And until that stops happening, they're just gonna do them.

Well, the internet- So it's our fault. Yes. No. It's just like they're not gonna stop. The internet used a photo of the two of them on the bed with their legs crossed, and they said, this is who greets you in the situationship gates of hell. And it was Jesse and Wes. Very, very true.

Sierra, what do you think of Carl kind of hitting on Sierra? That was brutal. Again, yeah, it hurts, but it was just, he's just so wholesome and he was like innocent and he was just like, maybe I'll shoot my shot. He was like, let me have a sit down conversation and just tell her how I feel and see what happens. Carl is the type of man that I think Sierra should go for

that she never will. Yeah, some people referred to him as like, I can't remember if he was in the show or like if he was outside, but they referred to him as the Mr. Rogers of Summer House. And I was just like, it's so true. But also like Sierra would be an idiot to go for Carl because like Lindsay would literally.

It doesn't work. Forget about Lindsay and whatever in the dynamic and then it was probably was just like a show romance. But like Carl is the type of guy that I think Sierra is not going for. That she should be going for. That like is willing to just, you know, that's not like Karl's a bit of a swog.

The difference between Karl and Jessie is Karl sees Sierra as a person and is attracted to that person, and Jessie thinks she's hot, and is purely going off of it. Well, and Karl's willing to lead with, hey, I'm into you. Like, I have a crush.

Where Jessie wants to be like, Damn, that leg's turning me on right now. Or like, you know, just be like, oh, that was kind of a stupid joke. No, Jessie's gonna like make fun of Sierra for a while before he gives her any like attention and she's gonna eat that up. Sierra did react to Carl saying,

I love Carl, but I was not expecting that, but I get it, no, I'm just kidding. And then she said, she referred to the friendship as a special relationship and revealed, we did have a lot of quality time this summer and it was so great to get to know him in a different light. So she's friend zoning him. And they did have like a little bit of chemistry

her first season, I think it was season six, where it was just like, we don't know where she's gonna go, but then she was talking to Luke, so it was wasted. And then Carl's brother passed and everything, but they had a very, very, very sweet relationship even from the start of meeting. So I think it's like friendship. Yeah.

Mom very invested in the rest of Lexi and Jessie's relationship, especially after a while, she and Lexi just absolutely dominated. I mean, it was really great. And if I'm not invited to the next snoozefest, I'm gonna fuck with her rampage. Yeah, hey, summer house, can you send us the party full link? Can I put myself on a list next snooze fest. I'm gonna buckle my rampage. Yeah, hey, summer house. Can you send us the party full link?

Can I put myself on a list please? Thank you. I'm also curious about Amanda's storyline the rest of the season, because the reunion seating chart was released and she's first chair. So I'm like, what happens with Amanda? What did you do to deserve that?

Yeah. And maybe not, maybe she deserves it anyways. When was the last time she was first chair? I don't think she ever was first chair. And if so, it would have been probably like the season that Kyle cheated or something like season two or three. But like, she doesn't really have a lot besides like launching, she's just kind of like,

just like the fun friend that's there and like Kyle's partner but like clearly something has to happen cause it's Paige and Amanda flanking him. But she also responded to it saying like, she was also shocked by the seating chart. So we're all just like, what? I'm not saying this with a judgment, more an amazement because again, as a, I'm a person who got married later in life, like I've certainly had my fun in my thirties, you know, yada,

yada, but the level of partying these men do, uh, when they were showing that scene, like this is how boys hang out at night when they come home from the bars and it's like three in the morning and they're like microwaving chicken nuggets and fries all at the same time. Again, I've had my fun, I've been selfish. Me and my wife even went to stagecoach this weekend.

You know what I'm saying? We're not above still having fun. But we were in bed by 11.30 on Friday. Tyler and Tate, Texas, like hey, you still at Stagecoach? I'm like, in bed, you know. Yeah, boots off. I don't remember the last time.

I think I was like 26, 27 when I would go out to the barge with my friends and come back and play video games and eat food late night. And the fact that they're still doing it is just impressive all at the same time but crazy. We were at stagecoach and we were talking we were talking to some people and they were like oh you guys going to the parties afterwards and I'm like I've I don't do cocaine and I didn't realize

this because like a aloof Nick sometimes doesn't pay attention to the surroundings but this I found out that this particular person just got done doing cocaine after I said I don't do cocaine but I found out that this particular person just got done doing cocaine after I said I don't do cocaine, but I didn't see them do cocaine. And now he was like, did you say that on purpose? I'm like, no, they were doing, huh? And there was-

I'm like, yes. Anyway, so there's a whole world of drugs out there that we're not privy to, but I just don't get how you stay up that late as an adult. Cocaine. Pasta. Yeah, pasta. Babies. If it's 3 a.m. and you're partying that late as an adult? Cocaine. Cocaine. Pasta. Yeah, pasta. Babies.

If it's 3 a.m. and you're partying and you're an adult. Four loco and a line. How do you do it? The people do it. I'm not saying anyone's doing anything. Some people are not, but that person was. I was gonna say, I stay up late with my best friend, but we sing Disney show tunes wasted off of Rose

until like three in the morning. Yeah. It's pretty wholesome. That's cute. Pretty wholesome. See, that's another explanation other than drugs. Or drugs at least. Yeah, Disney keeps us going.

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and start getting your best sleep tonight. Kelsey, welcome back to The Vile Files. Yay, I'm happy to be back. I'm happy to have you. I was just like, you know what, we need to have Kelsey on the show, we don't want Joey. And then we ran into Joey and we're like, sorry, Joey. We're only having Kelsey.

He's like, honestly, she's better without me. We're like, okay, great. No, I feel like at the beginning, it was always nice having him as like my emotional support, like, you know, person, because I was always so nervous. But now I feel like I kind of, you know, I can talk on my own now. I have my own voice.

I have my own person now. For like how long into into your engagement being public, did you, because I think people don't talk, not that I'm trying to have some sort of therapy session with you or nothing, but people don't talk a lot about how the winner, regardless of which season, is one of the worst positions to be in while it's airing and filming,

because I think the winner does not get a very similar experience than the rest of the people in the cast because they all feel like they get to be friends and they all have one thing in common against you that none of them do is that like he picked you and he broke up with all of them. And then you get to hang out.

It's like this weird kind of dynamic and like some of the women are able to still make friends with the other women. Sometimes there's a little bit of tension. We recently talked to Juliana who, you know, kind of echoed that same sentiment about feeling a little like isolated from the rest of the women.

But like, what has that experience been like for you? Did you relate to it and how did you and Joey, you know, eventually kind of work through it to like find your voice, to like feel, did you guys talk about it? Did you have to say, I kind of want to do my own interviews because, you know, at first it's just like Joey and Kelsey, let's bring them on together. Like, it's like, as a pair, you guys talk about it? Did you have to say, I kind of want to do my own interviews because you know, At first it's just like Joey and Kelsey. Let's bring them on together Like it's like as a pair you guys are like, we always want to see the couple

Does it does it get annoying? Um, honestly, no, I mean like I always told Joey I was like I love being your fiance But I also want us to always be like our individual selves and a lot of it was like Kelsey from the bachelor like Kelsey joey's, you know So I feel like that was hard at the beginning And a lot of it was like Kelsey from The Bachelor, like Kelsey Joey's, you know. So I feel like that was hard at the beginning, but now I feel like we've kind of been able to like find our own paths.

And I think that social media has helped me with that a lot, like being on TikTok and like posting videos and stuff and showing more of my personality. Cause I feel like the show, you know, they only want to show really like the love story. They didn't really show like who I was, I think fully, which is fine. You know, there's a lot of things that they were recorded. But I also feel like I just lucked out in the end because I'm friends

with like, pretty much all of the girls. Like, I don't know, I feel like Joey season maybe was an anomaly, like where it's just, I don't know, like all the girls like I'm still really close with I hung hang out with Daisy and Rachel a lot because they live here and Leah. And yeah, I don't know, I feel like we've been able to figure it out after. But at the beginning I was kind of like, I felt like I was his just like sidekick. Yeah. That makes sense.

Yeah. That's tough. And you were a stage coach this weekend. Yes, I was. Do you have fun? Yeah, I had fun. When'd you get back? I got back at 2 a.m.

Well, I left at 2 a.m. Last night? Yeah, last night. That's impressive. Do you often stay up late? Are you a night owl? Honestly, I feel like I don't get the best sleep in general. Like I just don't sleep a lot.

I can like run on no sleep. Yeah. Oh my God. Joey is not like that. You're gonna be such a powerhouse if you ever wanna become a mom. You're gonna be like crushing. Joey, I feel like would be struggling.

I will be the one that can definitely stay up later. I don't know, I'm really good at just surviving off minimal sleep. Wow. It's a talent Yeah, did you get in any like fights with anyone? No, it's funny things you were funny No, I said that I did not know who the person was like, I obviously know who Alex is I follow her on social media I've met her a couple times. She's super sweet. But yeah, I did not know who the person was. I obviously know who Alex is. I follow her on social media. I've met her a couple of times. She's super sweet.

But yeah, I don't know. They took two scenarios of what she was talking about than what I was talking about, which were definitely different scenarios, and then somehow put it together. And Joey sent it to me and was like, "'Did you see this?' And I was like, what the heck?

I was like, you weren't talking about her, right? I was like, no, I was like, you were there. You would have realized. Yeah. I think she also commented under something, being like, I was not talking about Kelsey. I was talking about a woman that was in her 40s or 50s. Like a grown woman.

Yeah. Ew. Yeah. No, and I was talking, I don't know who it was. I was not talking about a little girl. Yeah, just a little baby. A little skinny, perfect, cute, blonde, silly, funny, talented. Super talented, famous girl.

No, no. You did recently open up about your BBL that you got. Yeah. And how are you feeling post-search? No, when I tell you... No, I didn't get BBL. Like, have I been missing this? No, no, no. Wait, you didn't notice when I tell you, no, I didn't get it. Like what have I been missing? You didn't notice when I walked in the wobble?

I tend not to look. No, of course. I wore the baggy clothes on purpose. Those are baggy jeans. No, I made a video like joking about it. That I was like, oh, someone thought that I got my ears pinned back. And I was like, why am I getting ears pinned back allegations? Like I'd rather BBL or a Zempic allegations.

And then it like blew up somehow. Now I'm telling you, like people come up to me every single day and they're like, how's the BBL? And stuff like this. And I'm like, oh, I did not expect it to blow up. Like it's on any of my comments section. It's like, there's always at least a couple of comments about BBL. And I'm like, I think that people think that it's for real.

Some people. You do have a funny way of like, I feel like a lot of people in the public world will either like ignore comments, not read comments, not like acknowledge comments. And then some people get like mad and like fight back and argue with people. And then I feel like there's you who just like makes such a light and just like

goes with the joke kind of. When did you like start realizing that you were comfortable being like part of the joke? Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, I don't know. I like to use humor to like get through things that I feel like at first, whenever I got off the show, I would like read comments and they would hurt my feelings. And then Joey and I just started joking about them.

And then I was like, you know what? Let me just make a video about this. This is funny. And it's my humor. And I, for whatever reason, people liked it. And so I was like, this is fun. It's a fun way to kind of cope and just be like, eh, this is stupid.

You know? Yeah. Now that you've been out of it for a year. Out of Fashion Nation for a while, and you're kind of settling into what you're doing, Now that you've been out of it for a while, and you're kind of settling into what you're doing, what does Kelsey want to do? I don't know, honestly, I still feel so new to this space,

and I feel like navigating it is like, you could go so many different directions, you know? I know that Joey, I feel like, has kind of found his. I think I'm still searching for it. I really like, I don't know, working with nonprofits, and I like giving back to my community, but I really like I don't know working with nonprofits and I like, you know giving back to my community But I also I don't know. I feel like I do enjoy being you know on camera Honestly when you're like I love volunteering giving back I was like

and again because it's like, I, We obviously. It's obviously very important, but the, especially Thatcher Nation people are just so like programmed to like, not talk about anything they wanna do as an individual, to like take advantage of the opportunity they were given by going on this show, and to pretend they only wanna do

is find love and volunteer is just a little nauseating. Right. No, she said also be on TV. Yeah, I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna lie, guys. I enjoyed it. A lot of competition shows out there.

Yeah, yeah. I think that I definitely, and I talked to Joey, Joey and I talked about this recently where it's like, I feel like he kind of, not that like, I hate being associated with the Bachelor franchise. I feel like he kind of not that like I hate being associated with the bachelor franchise like I feel like they you know gave me so much like Joey and I um you know he gave me they gave me Joey um but I just feel like Joey was able to separate himself slightly from it and be like his own individual self through Dancing with the Stars and I was like I kind of

want to be able to do the same thing where it's like kind of separate myself Maybe show myself a little bit more in a different setting on a different TV show So I think that that is something that I would like to do is like go on a different show Yeah, I had a rumor that Joey might be going down traders. Oh, did you? Do we think that he would be a traitor or a faithful Oh, she's not answering. I don't know, I don't think that he is. But maybe he is. Maybe he isn't totally a optimist. She's like, I'm engaged to him,

but I don't know what's going on in his life. It's fine. I feel like he would probably be a faithful. Yeah. I think he, well, he had better be careful because he's definitely Mr. Like, well, Mr. Popular, Mr. Joey. And I think a lot of people might be like,

oh, he would make the perfect traitor. That's how I feel like people get in trouble. People get in trouble. Just being nice. Just being nice. Right. It's like either being nice or like not being nice. And then people be like, well, you were talking to everybody,

but you weren't really talking to me. And that makes me think you're a trader. All right. I feel like you could play it, like whichever way you play it, somebody can just go for you. You know what I mean? It's like, everyone's a target. But the golden retriever does very well on Traitors.

Peter Weber, Dylan, and Joey's very golden retriever. Yes, he is. Yeah, little sweetie boy. If you're a dog, what kind of dog are you? Oh, actually, we talked about this recently. I'm a boxer. Interesting. Very allergic to them. Oh, no. Oh, well.

Say more. No, they're to them. Oh no. Oh well. Say more. No, they're just like dorky animals, but like they're kind of cute, but they're just like very like clumsy and like spastic. And I feel like that's definitely me. Nick, do you feel like you are Jeff? Jeff kind of. Our dog Jeff.

Oh, okay, okay. A little prickly, sensitive. Grumpy a little bit. A little grumpy, but all in all a little bit. A little grumpy. But all in all, like a pretty good dog. But like he's a damn good dog. He's a loyal, like he loves you and he is a damn good dog, but he's a little like, ugh.

Yeah. When you come near him, you know, he's like, not again. Like, Jeff hates our daughter. Oh really? Yeah. Does he like growl at her? Steve loves our daughter. Jeff is first, he's just like, oh, so nervous. Every time she comes near him, he gets up and moves. Like, don't even think about coming next to me.

And then Steve is just like, we'll sit there and let her like crawl over him and it's so sweet. But you know, Jeff is definitely Nick. How old is Jeff? He's like almost four. Three, four, three and a half. So he's not like a great grandpa like Grumpy Dog.

He's just like. Yeah, he's just like, I don't, he's Nick. He's like a point, yeah. He's keeping tabs on you guys. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, It did make me understand Jeff a little bit more. Truly, honestly, Lady and the Tramp Act and our callback, very accurate. In terms of the owner dog relationship when they have a dog, it's just like when we got Jeff, he was really our baby. And it was like, we got Jeff early in our relationship, it was my first dog.

I really connected with Jeff in a way that I just didn't think I would with a dog. And it was just like this special relationship. But as soon as you find out you're having a baby and the baby shows up, I mean, I'm still obsessed with Jeff and we're very lucky to have our dogs. But for the first time in Jeff's life, he was a dog.

Yeah. Yeah. As opposed to being like, you're just a little furry man. You're just like, you're just like. It was like, shut up! Stop barking. And Lady and the Tramp really encapsulizes

like that transition. How do y'all deal with, cause y'all travel a decent amount. Well, maybe not so much now with River, but like how was that having a dog and like traveling? Cause Joey and I want to get a dog so bad, but we're like, we just can't yet. Cause we travel so much.

I mean, it depends on what kind of dog you get. Some you can like bring with you. Yeah. Do you bring Jeff around? We do. We usually bring Jeff and Steve with us. It was a lot easier. A lot of training.

Yeah. A lot of training. It was a lot easier before River. Obviously, we only have two hands. So we will have to like bring my mom to help with River. There's a lot of moving parts. You know what I'm saying? But it's not doable. Yeah. So we, we will have to like bring my mom to help with river. You know, there's a lot of moving parts, you know what I'm saying? But it's not, not doable. Okay.

It requires resources. It does. Yeah. Yeah. If you guys are on the like Miss Independent tour, I wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Good. Noted. And you're definitely headlining Miss Independent. I'm like, that's not going to be on his birthday list. And not're definitely headlining him. That's not gonna be on his birthday list. Was that on his before 30, need to get a dog list? No, thank goodness, no. But he was like, oh maybe I want a dog for my birthday. Because I'm always like, what do you want for your birthday?

Because I've got my own ideas of lists and stuff, but at the same time I'm like, is there anything you want? Yeah. But. Has Joey's bucket list ever like gotten annoying? I think that he realized like, oh, this is a lot. Like, oh, we've got a lot of things to do. We're going to Japan I think in two weeks. So yeah, for like five days.

So we're in it. How long is that flight? Don't. Four days. Literally. No, I think we're literally losing a day going in and coming back. Wow. Okay, happy birthday.

I've heard nothing but amazing things about you. No, yeah, we're really excited, but it was so funny, it was like, maybe we should golf one of the days. I was like, Joey, we're gonna be there for five days. Do you really wanna use the whole- We don't time for 18 fucking holes. I was like, do you really wanna use the whole day for golf?

I was like, this is your birthday thing, so. Is Joey big into golf? Oh my God, this is your birthday thing. So yeah. Is Joey big into golf? Oh my God, yes. He's like obsessed. Joey is a big golfer. We've been going to like a bunch of golf events and he got me like my own clubs.

So. Wow. He's like, listen, you can come with. I got you those clubs. Yeah. So, you know, we're a golf couple. Yeah. I just like kind of plug it, you know?

I'm like, ah, let me just hit that over there. No, that's so fun. How's dad's love life? Still in love? Yes, still in love. I saw your dad and his girlfriend. Yes, girlfriend. They're like official, yeah. At that Hulu event.

That they go through the, we're dating but not boyfriend and girlfriend stage, like seems to be the case nowadays in dating culture. I don't think so. I feel like they are pretty, you know, old school, I think he asked. She's not my girlfriend, but we are definitely exclusive. No, actually, we were at like a lunch or something.

No, we went to dinner with like Barb's daughters and it was like Joey and I and my dad, we were at dinner and he was like, so I asked Barbara to be my girlfriend and announced it in front of everybody. I was like, that is wonderful. That's beautiful, now can we get the lobster? Yeah, I was like, oh.

We're debating whether we want Natalie's mom to go on to go to the bachelor. Oh my gosh, really? Yeah. Yeah. We're debating, she's in the process now where it's like she's done all the interviews and stuff and now it's like waiting.

Not at all. She's just like waiting to hear what's going on. Right. You know, and she said that she was like, should I just message them and be like, hey, would love an update or else like, would love to do something else with my summer, like, you know, would love to make plans.

And she said that they responded being like, hey, thank you so much for reaching out. We don't know. Yeah. She was like, okay. She's like, we fired everybody, but I. Right. Yeah, so not sure what we're doing, but like stay in touch.

Well, what did y'all think about, did she think that the golden bachelor was cute? She said to me, I would have dated him in high school. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. So I do think she's cute. She loves a big, burly athlete.

Yeah. But I feel like I'm just, I don't, I feel like the public got, you know. Straight up, straight up. Did your dad in any way at all just become ever just the slightest diva. Diva. Where you were just like, ugh.

You know, or just like, as I said to Nellie's mom, like you know what it's like, this shit is not normal. It fucking changes you. It just changes your brain chemistry. And most of it is understandable. Like the shit, like the way people interact with you, treat you, it's weird. And you have to change your behavior

because of how people change your behavior towards you. At the same time, like it's hard to like not have it change you a little bit. So it was just more like, ugh, do I wanna deal with my mother-in-law? Right, becoming a little diva? Being diva, not, she's a wonderful person, but I'm just curious, your dad seems down to earth and normal

and we've heard nothing but good things, but like son, like father, daughter, like was there ever like, oh God, feeling himself? Honestly, no, I feel like it's, he's like kind of awkward with it. Like he's like very like, oh my gosh, like they wanted a picture with me, like still like he's like, oh my gosh,

that's so embarrassing. So it's like endearing, like it's sweet. But sometimes I'm like, yeah, just take the picture, come on, let's move on. I gotta go, give me a moment. I'm like, come on. No, I'm like, yeah, just take the picture. Come on, let's move on. We gotta go, give a moment. I'm like, come on. No, I feel like he's more just slightly uncomfortable, but also thinks it's kind of fun.

Yeah. Did Barbara slide into his DMs? Or how did they come? Yes. And did he know who she was when? I don't think he ever watched the show. I didn't, one of my sisters did, so she knew who she was. But I think that her manager reached out to my dad, actually.

I think she saw him actually on My Season with Joey and saw him at our hometowns, My Season, at our hometowns. And yeah, I think that she was like, wait, I wanna talk to that man. Cary you. Yeah. And how did he react to that? They would like talk on the phone for a while. Then he came into LA and they went on a date.

And yeah, I think he thought she was cute, but. They're a cute couple. I know. I will say. Speaking of how people met, have you, you probably haven't. I've been following the story. It was the NFL draft this weekend as well,

in addition to our anniversary. Missed that one. Have you followed Bill Belichick's? Do you even know who Bill Belichick is? Yes, he's dating the 25 year old girl. She's engulfed in football. I mean, she's, we've got Joey with Packers. You're like a big Vikings fan, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's inducted. Yeah, I'm like, you know, I dabble in it. Well, our first year anniversary was on Sunday and on Sunday also there was a CBS Good Morning News report, like Bill Belichick sat down in an interview with CBS this morning and it was, let's just say like, no correlation, no connection between us,

but like it just was like they did, they do not represent age gaps in the way we would like people to represent age gaps. What way would you like people to represent age gaps? Well with like, you know, hope. And just like positivity. Yeah. Not, we're not talking about this. Normal And just like- Positivity. We're not talking about this.

Normalizing just like the healthy ones. Yeah, okay. Fair. You know, Bill Belichick, for those of you who don't know, he's arguably the most, the best NFL coach ever in the history of coaching. He's won the most Super Bowls, I believe. He's up there, you know, second most games in general.

And throughout his career, he famously has made journalists and other beat reporters who follow his teams scared to even ask questions. He's a very intimidating interview. And he's sitting down with this interviewer and the guy gets into talking about his new relationship and they pull back and then he's like, how did you guys meet?

And in the background, his new girlfriend is like, we're not answering that question. It's just like, you're answering for Bill Belichick in a way that's just like, why can't you answer that question of how you met? Just like, just say at a bar. Yeah. Mutual friends. Mutual friends.

You can be very broad. We're not talking about this. It does make us wonder why you're not talking about it. But then they brought up the Instagram post where it's like him laying down on the beach and she's on top of his legs and whatnot. It's like you guys are doing very Instagram couple-y things. Why would you not wanna talk about your relationship?

You don't have to put it out there. But the way she's in charge of that aspect of their, as she's running a PR, I couldn't imagine. I'm not even Bill Belichick. If Nellie and I in the first couple months of us dating, I was doing interviews and then Nellie was in the background being like, we're not answering that question. Next question, don't ask it again.

It's like what high end escort service did you reach out to to meet your girlfriend? Because that's what now the entire internet is speculating being like why don't you wanna answer that question? It's not even like a hard, like okay, you're dating, there's an age gap, whatever, like fine, you know, like we like to think that looks matter, but like. Right, he very much looks his age.

And at the right age of 77. Is he 77? How old is he? I don't know, he's up. He's up. She's 24. Four, four, okay. But like very much. He's up. She's 24. She's 24. Four, okay.

But like very much. 73. 73. Yeah. Maybe she just want, you know, listen, a lot of what we say. A lot of it depends on looks, age gaps. Well, also like where you are in your time of life.

Yes, of course. And like, do you feel like you're each other's equals? Can you give the same energy? Look, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. No, for sure, she was saying that next. I was also, I was gonna go into that next,

but it does. I feel like a lot of it does matter on where you are. And maybe she's like, listen, I don't want any of that at all. I just like want, you know, kind of like Dave Portnoy's girlfriend. Like he's made it very clear he's not having children and he's not remarrying, you know, like, I think he's still currently married

to his first wife. And it's like why him and Silvana broke up and now he just has gone like public with his new girlfriend who's a young blonde. And it's like, listen, if she's not looking to like get married and have kids right now, then like have fun. Yeah.

You know? Here. Anyways, next time someone asks how you met, at least lie. Yeah. No, sometimes. He's so friends. So many easy options. I know, I'm gonna be like.

I slid into his DMs. Yeah, I'm like we met at a bar. Yeah, crazy. Grocery store. Sounds believable, honestly. Should we get into Dureet and PK? I know you're not a big fan of reality TV, but Dorit Kimsley, she is a Beverly Hills housewife.

She's going through a little separation and kind of the whole season it was like, are they gonna get back together? Like, are they gonna make it work? What's going on? And PK was seen making out with another blonde reality TV star over the weekend and she looked very similar to his legally wife, Dorit Kimsley,

and which then made her file for divorce. Like the next day. Like saw the photo and was like, and I'm done. Yep, wrap it up. That'll do it. And then he went on Instagram. Yeah, he went on Instagram and made, do we have his? He said, no one plays the victim better

than the one who caused the damage. On a black screen. Mm-hmm. Mysterious. Mysterious. PK does love a notes app. Comic sans. Yeah, yeah.

It was a weird font. It's fair challenge. It was a very weird font. It was like, it was a weird font. He like, you watched him like scroll through the fonts and like play with a couple of them and then he landed on that one. And it was an interesting. He took away his power

by going with that font. It looks like I wrote this myself. Yeah. Good. It took away his power. It really did. Yeah, it was like an old man putting on a shirt that he thought was cool without asking any of his friends

if he should step out. You know? Yeah. And he's always just sending these written statements or like feeling the need to shut down a room or whatever with just like black screen, white font. But the woman he was making out with was on the season 12 of The Amazing Race. And she's also dated Ryan Seacrest in the past.

So I think that they're all just kind of probably in the same circles, but it is shocking how much she looks like you're eating. What same circle is that? Just entertainment in general. In LA, I would feel like. I am curious, what is it about PK that is turning? Yeah, it does make me judge this woman

more than it does make me judge PK, because I am confused at like what. What's he working? What's like what? Like I get, I get Mo. You know I get Mo. I get Mo. Tall, sexy get Mo. I get Mo. Tall, sexy, still got the looks,

seems to be pretty rich still. And then PK is kinda like maybe in debt. Alcoholic, we know that. Yeah, or recovering, not sure. Maybe she's just doesn't know the state of his. Do you know who these people look like? Bring them up. Bring them up, bring them up.

Bring them up side by side. I've been wanting. This is Housewives. I feel like so many of my friends watch Housewives and I'm always like, oh, I need to get into it. But then I just. You do. You do.

Yeah, this is PK. And that's his wife, Dorit. Go to the third photo over. And that is the new woman he was caught making out with. Like where are they? What does it say? Now do we think these are staged pop photos or not? Anytime I see popper out see pictures I always think it's staged. I think it's... Well okay, P.K.'s biggest thing is that he's boy George's manager. No one's stalking him.

Well no, his biggest thing right now is he's the husband of a housewife who's famously kind of messy online and going through a very public divorce. And that would drive a paparazzi to pay attention. Yeah, I don't know. Not everyone is staged. Natalie was outside Chipriani's. Oh yes, of course. If it's a good looking photo of both people,

chances are it's staged. Well, like also he's not trying to hide it if he's at Cipriani's. What's Cipriani's? I'm not familiar. Isn't it like an Italian restaurant? Yeah, an Italian restaurant really popular in New York. I guess we have one in Beverly Hills area, but it's like going to Craig's or something

where it's like you don't think that Paparazzi's gonna be out there. Yeah. Okay. So he wanted to be seen. Whether he called them himself, I don't know, but this is what's jarring to me. Yeah, if he showed up to Craig's with a new lady that's on purpose.

It's the same person. Yeah. Like, and that's his wife. That's crazy. He's trying, he's also publicly posting on his Instagram stories, like dramatic, dramatic things. So he's doing this on purpose. And what do we think his purpose is?

To piss off Duree. To win the divorce? Yeah. Sure, but what is winning the divorce? Looking like you're the most moved on and I guess settled. He's trying to make it seem like she's causing all of this drama where it's just like, you don't have to react to it either.

Well, yeah, if anything he's giving, we're divorced, we've been going through a divorce, whatever she's doing publicly, I've no idea, but in reality, we're getting divorced. Yeah, and you are. Whatever she's doing publicly, I've no idea. But in reality, we're getting divorced. Yeah, and you are following what she's doing. Yeah. I think he doesn't wanna lose his diamond. I think that's what's going on.

That's the thing, he's also very involved in Housewives for a guy who's supposed to not give a shit. He's very petty. He posted on his Instagram stories, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage. Obviously, it'll never happen. What?

It'll never happen. Never. Never. But if, let's say, there was trouble in paradise, who do you think would be the messier of you two in a breakup? I honestly don't think either of us would. Obviously. Well, that's what Paige and Craig said.

No, like, well, I just feel like, I don't know. You can't, you can't put this. I mean, if it was, it'd probably be me. Guess who would make a TikTok and be like. Oh, matter of fact, no, I'm kidding. No, I just feel like neither of us are messy people. I don't know, I don't think that I would ever be publicly messy.

I would maybe say something to my friends if he made me upset, and I'm sure vice versa. Sure, yeah, saying you're friends. Yeah, but I feel like publicly no. the way reality TV stars just can't just yeah just hold it does get crazy not say anything what about Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota over stagecoach I saw that actually cuz I watch well well well that's that that is reality let me tell you season two is an absolute banger.

What? Season two, it's good. It comes out- It's awesome. May 12th? I've seen it. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, it's very good.

But we have what, Dakota blocked Taylor. Yeah. Dakota blocking Taylor, you have Taylor and Macy in a car doing a TikTok being like, if you're done with your ex, move on to the next. And she's like, I guess I'm self-sabotaging their relationship again. And then hours later, here's Taylor posting her and Dakota, Dakota licking her neck. And it's like, wait, what is happening?

But her caption was like, stage coach with my castmates. Like it was like not like. Father of my child. It wasn't like love, it was with my castmates. Yeah. Very business. Well, I'm invested. Oh, I can't wait. I'm excited.

I met all of them. I feel like I get multiple things now and they seem so nice and like, whenever you see them together, you're like, oh, there's no drama, but then you watch the show and you're like, oh my gosh. You like each other. No, it's crazy.

There's a lot of drama brewing. She actually edited her caption and said, I never let my heart go all the way with my castmates and co-parent. Thank you, at Stagecoach for having go all the way with my castmates and co-parent. Thank you at Stagecoach for having us. Oh, with my castmates and co-parent. Co-parent. Okay.

Clarification. Not even baby daddy. Co-parent. Co-parent. Very formal. Like they met in a science lab. It is very formal. It's getting very formal.

Yeah. Co-parent, nothing says co-parent like that. Like a hickeyicking my neck. It is. Like a hickey. Sierra brought up an interesting point earlier with the Mormon wives where it's like, what's the line between their real lives and what they're doing? I don't think they know.

I don't think. I think it's so blurred at this point because it's like, I hate them on the show right now, but I'm actually best friends with them on TikTok. I never hate them on the show. No, I'm saying like them hating each other on the show or it's like you hear all the drama about what's gonna happen in the show and then you get on TikTok and it's like, no, they're literally hanging out together.

Well, I would say and what I love about them is that like they are, well, more real than the average person because I do think like a lot of times people, especially in LA, they just like talk their shit behind your back. You know, it's just like, yeah, yeah, I'm not fucking bitch, I don't fucking hate her. And they say it to each other's faces

and then they move on. You know, they're kind of like, but a lot of, I mean, that's honestly fairly, I'm not saying it's healthy communication, but at least you know where they stand and they kind of get through it. And it's all in the name of honesty of like, hey, we're Mormon, we can't lie,

so like, I think you're up. You know, like, which I kind of love and respect, and it makes for great TV. I mean, they are, I'm having a, like it's. I don't know who's friends, I don't know who's not, I don't know who's pregnant, I don't know who's not. Put it this way, I've seen the whole season, it's awesome, and like, I'm still, like, generally having a hard time keeping up. Are you confused, because I'm still generally

having a hard time keeping up. Are you confused? Because I'm confused. I think the only person I'm clear on is Demi and Whitney are friends. Yes. They did all their press together. All their photos are together.

I think that's their buddies, but the rest I'm confused. And then they all posted to promote Vanderpump Villa. So then I'm seeing like everybody in the photos and I'm like, who is friends with who? What is this about? Wait, did they go to Vander? Did they?

Yeah, a few of them. Okay, that's what I saw. I saw like a little snippet and I was like, oh. And that's out now. So I'll be going home to watch that. They were trying to save that show. Yeah. Let's be honest.

I wonder if it did, honestly. I wonder if it did. Yeah, they had to make some changes to the format because I think it was just so trying to do a below deck situation. So now they've kind of upped the ante with a almost game show aspect of it, where the people that are working at the Villa,

they're now competing for like the top spot as like pretty much employee of the season. And they'll win $30,000 plus contract with Lisa Vanderpump, whether it's like chef or whether it like to work at one of her restaurants. $30,000 to work for Lisa? $30,000 to win the show. Sounds like minimum wage to me.

But then you get an opportunity with Lisa. That sounds like minimum wage. Yeah, it's like you win $30,000 and then you get a job. Minimum wage. There you go. They got nothing season one and it didn't do well. Do we deserve the credit for making Lisa separate herself from James Kennedy?

I feel like that was all our doing. I wouldn't say we should take that, but I will say that maybe she did see a little something and maybe someone asked her on the red carpet. Someone did ask Kristen Doty about our interview on the red carpet. So I don't find it that impossible that someone asked her about the phone call

that she made to Allie Lu, where being like, hey, why would you convince her to go back to her abusive ex boyfriend? That seems toxic. And she was like, oh, I actually don't support him any longer. I'm separating myself from James Kennedy. Yeah, makes sense. But she is hiring someone for $30,000.

She's giving them $30,000, then indebting them with a job. That sounds like a $30,000 job. It's a bonus. Yeah, bonus. Is it a bonus a job. That sounds like a $30,000 job. It's a bonus. Yeah, bonus. It's a bonus. Yeah. It sounds like minimum wage.

And I will say what is interesting about the show is because I did think that Vanderpump Villa was gonna be a set location and that she would try to get people to wanna like go and reserve it or whatever. But last season was in France, this season's in Italy. So it's like just for the show. Like there is no Vanderpump.

There's no standing Villa that you could go visit off season. Vanderpump Villa is not real. It's not. No. What's the point? It's a house they rent. That's what I was confused about.

It's Airbnb. They're at a castle this time, but like it's yeah. Okay. When they're done with the castle, I guess they break it down and pick the next location. Break down the castle. You literally. Whatever they built in there.

Are you saying her entire world is not real and fake? I would never expose somebody in such a way. Yes. That's crazy. Are you saying her entire world is not real and fake? I would never expose somebody in such a way. Yes. Well, Jax Taylor was caught exposing his crotch in public. Um, he's not. Joey would never. Well, he's.

Wait, who is this? Jax Taylor from Vanderpumpables and the Valley. Oh, okay. Yes, yes. He was walking down the street, I guess, going into a grocery store, a paparazzi are there and he decides to lower his pants to scratch deep inside his pants, and paparazzi got it all.

This is, but- Is he wearing underwear? No. It's Jack, so probably not. No. He like full on is like, it's like dig out. It's like a pull down and then a scratch.

That's disgusting. This man has a child. This man has a son. Yes. Do you think that was like on purpose? It's just like, I can't understand whether or not he knew the paparazzi were there. It's just like, why would that ever be an appropriate thing for you to do out in public? Does he think he's like, it's like a fuck you to the paparazzi or something?

I don't know. But it's also like, I think he's crashing out right now because he was on like live and his publicist was like Get off right now. Stop what you're doing in the comments off He was on for like five minutes talking about like how great he's doing how he's been to rehab how he's a change Now Like you have to stop talking about He's like nah, I'm doing actually pretty good. She's like get off

like you have to stop talking about it. He's like, nah, I'm doing actually pretty good. She's like, get off, you're done. Feel like my best self finally for the first day in a while, get the fuck off live. Stop talking publicly right now. And he's no longer doing the podcast with Brittany. So he started a new podcast called In the Mind of a Man podcast.

That's scary. I don't want to log out. That's our nightmare. In the mind of a man. Would never wanna be there. Never would be there. Sounds so dark. We'll not be logging in Yeah, that's your nightmare. In the mind of a man. Would never wanna be there. Never would be there. It sounds so dark. I will not be logging in.

That's my worst nightmare. Don't log us all in with you, Jax. And it should be the mind of Jax. He labeled himself a walking red flag and he's wearing a shirt with it on it. So he's really leaning into this branding. That's all I have to say on that. I guess.

Cheers. That's all I have to say on that. I guess. Cheers. That's so. The way we love her. Sinking ship. I just want to look away, I will say. Have you seen any of the kind of like influencers, not like under fire, cause it's not that big of a deal, but like people kind of giving them hate

for like what they're naming their children. Have you seen any of this? Yeah, I feel like I've seen some. Is there any specific? It's wild. It's gotten to the point. I think someone commented this of like, you're just like, you're just naming objects. These are not children. It's just like some people are like, oh, like here are names that we love,

but we're not using. And it's like for our girl, we're thinking umbrella. And it's like that's OK, we're losing the plot. You've got at some point, we gotta reel it in. 100%. Cities work. Yeah. Baby blue? No.

Some colors work for sure. Wait, is it baby blue? A city, think about it, a city could work. Madison, Memphis. Paris. Paris. Countries? No. Mexico. Paris. Countries? No. Mexico.

Canada. Bangladesh. Chile. Spoon. But like, some things are just objects. Yeah. Bodies of water. Work.

Yeah. River. Atlantic. Lake. No, but ocean, like Pacific. You know, it's like we also all, at some point we're like, Northwest is crazy. Lake? No, but ocean, like Pacific. You know, it's like, we also all, at some point we're like Northwest is crazy to name your daughter.

And now we're kind of like, honestly, it's a vibe. Apple, sorry, Gwen. Apple still got to me. It was always crazy, it's still crazy. How old is Apple? She's an adult. She's gotta be grown by now. But that's the whole point.

I wonder what she thinks about it. When we went into naming River, like you have to think about like, yes, you are naming a cute little like girl with pigtails who's like super cute and baby woozy and like so cute. Then you're naming like a girl who's in high school and then you're naming like a CEO boss bitch who like is heading meetings being like, hello everyone, my name is Mexico Tarantula and I am here to get, it's like, you have to at some point, like, I think at least you need to give them a normal middle name

so that they have the option. 100%. Also, my mom, she would rhyme our names with everything before we were born just to make sure we weren't gonna get made fun of. See, it's thoughtful. So smart. So thoughtful.

Yeah. Kelsey Belsey. Kelsey, yep. She's like, bad, bad. See, thoughtful. So smart. So thoughtful. Kelsey Belsey. Kelsey, yep. She's like, you're bad. Fine. Yeah. Fine. My mom put so much thought into all of our names.

My sister is Taylor, Victoria, and my other sister is Jordan Elizabeth, and both of our names. And then I'm Kelsey Alexandra. So it's two syllable gender neutral first names. And then our middle names are three syllable proper feminine queen names. Yes, of course. I knew it's queens.

Thoughtful. That is a lot of thought. She's so thoughtful. She's like, I don't want them to be jealous of each other's names either. I was like, one gets a queen and I get a princess. I only have two syllables. Yeah, what the heck?

Wednesday? Remember Wednesday? Adams? No. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking of. Oh, was it tomorrow? What was it yesterday? Afternoon?

Afternoon was Francesca Fargo's, like on her list of we aren't using what we love. Afternoon. And everyone was like, girl, you can keep. Cause I think she was like, I don't want to say this one yet cause we might use it. What did she use? Locket and poetry.

Okay. That's a thing. That's just a thing. You know, and honestly, I don't really give a fuck because it's not my kid's name. I don't have to call you that. Somebody's kid's name is Rumble Honey. Rumble Honey.

There's also Absidy. Have you seen, A, B, C, D, E? No. Yeah. Hello. It's like really good. I think whoever has a kid next, it should name them honestly like mark

Yeah, like the most basic name and then it will be so you know, yeah, you know because everyone's just going bonkers I want I want one of our kids Joey nice kids to like have a super Italian first name Just cuz his last name so Italian like I want him to be like, I don't know like Luigi Luigi might be taken just because his last name's so Italian, like I want him to be like, I don't know, like Luigi. Like Luigi Grazie a Re. Yeah! Luigi might be taken. Oh, okay, okay. Love Giacomo's, Giacomo Gianotti. Oh yeah, Giacomo Gianotti, we put him on it,

like that name. Right, you know? Just a little possess. But he also said he got like very bullied for it. Because he was like, it was very Italian. So I think he went by like Jack. Jack, yeah. I went by Jack.

No, I was really happy to realize that after we named River River, that it's actually a fairly common name this year. A lot of boys are named River, but it's common and it's like, I don't think you wanna be the kid in elementary or middle school or even high school with everyone being like, wow, I've never heard that before. What is your name?

Right. Huh? Yeah. That's you're just setting your kid up for they there's so much pressure to be the coolest kid ever. Or they're just going to have to, you know, learn how to, I don't know, fight, fight. Teachers have to be like the kids that are coming in with these teachers, learning how to pronounce and spell them. You know, they're so nervous. I remember my teachers being like,

okay, everyone, you only have one name to remember, and I have 27. So cut me some slack. And they'd be like going down being like, I'm going to mess this up. So I'm just going to go with your last name. If you could just tell me how to say that. Smith, what is your first name? Okay, got it, thank you. You know, it's like they were all, and now I bet they're like. And now you have like, Opsidy. Yeah, like you're like, this is just letters.

Yeah. Christmas. You will never forget afternoon. You know who has a fun name and is really being talked about right now? Jojo Siwa. Jojo Siwa, your bestie. She is fresh off of Celebrity Brick Brother UK style.

UK? Making waves! It started with her getting Mickey Rourke banished. Yeah. Well, I mean, let's be honest. Which honestly, he got himself. He got himself banished. Compared to what's going on now.

He portrayed in a type of homophobia that we have not seen in years. He was ignorant and giving very old outdated man problematic. Yeah, 80s action movie level terrifying. And then what? Like she she kind of sparked up a romance. Yeah. Got the Internet talking. Well, romance, maybe, maybe, maybe.

We don't know. This is all. Everyone should. They were definitely like very. Chris. Her and Chris were very like. From Love Island UK. Yeah, they were very like, they had a bond. They were holding hands. There was chemistry. They were snuggling, they were like kissing foreheads,

they were, you know, showing affection. And JoJo comes out and says, you know what everyone, I am not lesbian, I'm queer. Which the internet really ran with. But it seemed that that was based off a level of ignorance. Was it not, Mary? I think the biggest thing of this is that, well, it's normal for someone who's like 21

to be figuring out their sexuality. Yeah, JoJo's only 21. JoJo's 21, this is basically her in theater camp figuring stuff out. We're basically watching JoJo go to college on TV Yeah, so like makes sense that you think that you're figuring stuff out I think what gets what gets tricky is when the branding comes into it because now Jojo is kind of branded herself as like Lesbian pop singer and now she's like well queer and everyone's like Jojo, but she's allowed to do whatever she

Reads her former partner of recently a couple days ago. Cath, yes. Is non-binary. Yes, they're non-binary. So like it could, you know, who knows. But Cath, like I guess, sent like a letter, they like all read letters from home and in JoJo's letter from home, her mom writes,

and Cath says they're very keen on seeing you when you get out. And JoJo was like, that's fucking it. You're keen to see me. You don't miss me. You don't love me. You don't like, can't wait to kiss me, nothing. And so then as soon as JoJo exited Big Brother,

there was a breakup with Kath. Yeah, JoJo went to the party, to the after party. Said you were dumped. And dumped them at the after party. And now everyone's like, okay, so what's going on? And now she's playing tennis with Chris. Yeah. So always providing us entertainment.

Jojo Siwa, thank you so much for your service. It's crazy she's 21. It's crazy. She's grown up and like in front of our eyes. Yeah. I haven't talked to her. I FaceTimed her when she got out of the house. She did not answer.

Oh. And playing tennis. I hope to find out the Tee Tee. Yeah. Shortly. Hope to find out the Tee. Yeah, it's like Tee Tee is a little too much. All right.

Okay, sorry. Just a silly girl. He's trying to be hip. I mean that's just me. He's trying to be hip. I think they don't say Tee anymore. They don't? No. Soup? Yeah, they say soup. I think they don't say tea anymore. They don't? Yeah they say soup. What do they say? Spill me the soup!

What do the Gen Zers say? No I'm just fucking with you guys. They say rad. Cool. Dope. Tubular. Kelsey it's been fun. Yay thank you guys. Kelsey Anderson is my Instagram and it's been fun. Yay, thank you guys. Plug. Kelsey Anderson is my Instagram

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So good, I'm so glad to be back. Yeah, last time you were here it was, Depressed. Wow. Depressed. I was going through it. Have you recovered from said drama? Yes, thankfully.

I feel like you have entered this whole new era of your life where it's like, I don't even associate you anymore with Too Hot to Handle or Perfect Match or any of those shows. I feel like you've made such a name for yourself outside of those shows. Have you risen above the people who brought you down?

100%. And a big part of that was moving away. I moved to New York and I was like, wow, there are people here that don't care about this stuff. They're doing stuff outside of social media. And I don't know, it just changed my whole perspective on everything. I was kinda like, why do I care about that?

I know what these people are like. I don't need to tell everyone. I know. And that's good enough. Is there like, I mean, I think this is like a stupid rhetorical question, I suppose, because I feel like you know the answer. But is there like a influence-y group in LA?

Like a circle of- Yeah, definitely. Of try-hards? Yes. And I feel like when I moved here, it was my first experience of this place. So I kind of like, I'd see these people everywhere and I thought they were like real and friends and I kind of learned along the way that it's not many people you can trust in that influence-ery thing. So they all drive nice cars and pay rent? Yeah, literally.

It's like you nailed that. Summed everyone up. No one owns a house, but they all drive G-Wagons. They've all got the fake drip. I'm like, okay. Like, that's enough. That's my favorite thing about them. It's like, you know you're a loser if you don't own a home,

but your car is- Yeah, and you're renting it. If your car payments is much or more than your rent. That's literally, that's a really good indicator. You're a loser. That's everyone in LA. Not everyone. Oh, everyone I know.

I only got introduced to the clicks, you know? Okay. So you see New York has like opened your eyes to like genuine friendships, better people. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's like people are actually doing things outside of what I'm doing and I'm like, wow,

what I'm doing is not the be all end all of everything. I don't have to worry about stuff online. People are doing different shit. Like do you have a friend in purchasing? What do you mean purchasing? Like a normal job? Like an accountant? Everyone, yeah.

Everyone's in finance, everyone's cool. I'm like, this is where I should be. Like sales associates. Yeah. This is the men that I want to surround myself with. You know? Medical sales rep. Yeah. All of the cool stuff.

Yeah. But yeah, no, they're like real down to earth. If they don't like you, they'll tell you. And I'm like, thank you. Like, I just want people to be honest. I'm Australian. I love her. Yes.

Oh my God. I love her. Haven't seen you in so long. and they're like, oh my God, I love her. I haven't seen her in so long and you're like, you were just talking shit about me. Let's get coffee, let's get lunch sometime. Oh, weren't you just sleeping with my ex? That's crazy, good to see you, oh my God. I'm like, that's literally my life.

You know what I heard about that bitch? That's crazy. Literally, and then you have a new show and they're like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they come back out. What is your love life like these days? Non-existent, and I'm loving that, I'm not gonna lie. You need to date a normie.

I did date what I thought was a normie, turned out to not be so normal. What does that mean? I mean, sure, you might just find out there are psychopaths. But he was like, not out of the scene, no one knew who he was, low key, didn't post online, private account, ticked all the boxes. Went by a different name? Yes Low key, didn't post online, private account, love. Tick tock the boxes. Went by like a different name?

Yes. And then I kind of thought that that was like by choice. And then I realized this guy's like, you know, maybe he's hiding some stuff. And I moved to New York and I was like, you know, with him for a while, things were good. And then yeah, not so good. Now I'm like, I dated another person after that. That was the most diabolical person I've ever dated in my life. The most? The most. Like I'm not, I dated another person after that that was the most diabolical person I've ever dated in my life. The most? The most, like we've talked. You've got such a name.

I'm not like, that's crazy. It's like anyone I'm attracted to, I need to like get away from that. You need to not be attracted to your next partner. How do I change that? Do we need to unpack that, Georgia? Yeah, I'm like doing therapy now, so I'm like unpacking that.

I'm like, what's wrong with me? Why do I find these people? Like, it's insane. How were they diabolical? Just like, um, so manipulative can present a whole person that they're not. And you find out a few months later that they're nothing like that. Really controlling gaslighting. The last guy I was seeing literally went through my phone in my sleep,

hacked my iCloud, got my location and had tracked me for five months. I had no idea. When we stopped speaking, it was turning up to places that I was and making out it was a coincidence. Then one night called me and told me, I know you just walked through your front door. And I was like, dude, I'm moving. The people I meet are like next level. What did you think of me when you met me? Like did you think, on the chances he's a psychopath scale, like what were you like thinking?

Well, I mean I think we like went to, on our first date we like went to dinner, like an hour after I had ever met him in person and he was like, so like I could kill you tonight. And I was like, no. Wait, that's hilarious. That's like, I think about that stuff. Not hilarious actually happening, but like, you never know who you date.

You're like, what if I'm a sucker? Literally he's like, so I could like actually kill you. But like, I was judging her for meeting me. Being like, what is wrong with you? Were you that bad? What? Were you that bad? No, I, no, I'm that good. Okay. Yeah Were you that bad? What? Were you that bad?

No, I'm that good. Okay, yeah. I feel like you guys are great, so I wouldn't see. I'm a normal person, but I was doing an abnormal thing, so I was judging her for meeting me, being like, how do you not know I'm not fucking, and also, are you gonna murder me? Yeah, that's my response, it's like, well, what if I?

Oh, I would definitely be afraid of that. I would definitely be afraid of that. I was definitely afraid of that. Because we murder each other. The only person who would do this is someone who's gonna kill me. For the follow up question is how many people know where you are right now? Literally.

I knew why I was doing it. Like, so do you share your location? Is anyone expecting you home later? Could you actually turn off your location services right now? Are you close with your family? Honestly though, but maybe that's kind of what you're not looking for.

Like there was a healthy amount of like awkwardness between Nellie and I and nervousness of both being like, I don't know about you. And yet we were both kind of like, hopefully giving each other like green flags, but like we were like very, there was a, there was like an awkwardness. I feel like I mistake chemistry, like I think I'm connecting with someone and it's actually like a toxic bond forming.

It's someone really manipulative and they're really playing me. And I'm like, Oh my God, this is like, I'm going to marry this person. And then I realized that nothing like that. I'm like, I need to like, stop. Like I need to chill. Yeah. I just like, maybe I'm the only good guy. So wait, how did you, how did you get, you are, how did you get, um, your, his, your location off of his like phone?

So I, I had an inkling something was going on when he kept turning up to places that I was. And I was like calling my mom and I'm like, this sounds really crazy, but there's too many coincidences happening. He keeps turning up to places and she's like, he's tracking you. And I'm like, how would I even see that? So I went through my phone and looked at location was off. I made sure family sharing. I've heard you can do that. Turn that off. I'm like, no, I have to be good. This is in my head.

Then the phone call happened. And I'm like, I go into Apple. They've seen this shit before. So they're like changing all my passwords, like telling me what was probably their likely scenario. And I, I a hundred percent know it. Like I'm a deep sleeper. He knew my password.

I would always fall asleep before him. Sometimes I'd wake up the vibe would be off. I wouldn't know it. Like I'm a deep sleeper. He knew my password. I would always fall asleep before him. Sometimes I'd wake up, the vibe would be off. I wouldn't know why. It was like obvious that he'd been snooping and doing stuff. And he knew things that you could only know if you were in my phone. Like, but I was like, you know, what are the odds of that? Like I just, you just never think it will happen until you have proof. And yeah, I just think like we can bleep this out, but are we talking about... Yes.

Who? I've never met a man like this. This is like... I'm not kidding, he's like possessed. What's all of this? Short. Too short to act like that. I'm such a bitch, bro.

That's the thing, but if like but if he's got a great face. You know, Harry could get away with their height. He's so tall. We made some exceptions, not that. You have to go, oh, you're gonna act like that. No matter how much fucked up a tall man is, he's still tall, and he still doesn't have to overcompensate. Yeah.

And sadly, with the short kings. Yeah. The short kings really swindled me. There's a real, no matter, the problem with the short kings and I love the short kings. I do think the short kings need more representation. I like the short kings too. And I do think the ladies out there

need to be open to like five, 10. But like the problem sometimes with the short kings. There's a true, there's a true like, there's an always constant, like what's the word I'm, imposter syndrome. So no matter how much success they have in their life, they're like, their childhood self and like their high school self will never really believe

that like, you know, obviously you're a beautiful, attractive person and then like, you know, they're just like, they just can't outlive the person they see in the mirror and they become insane. Well, you really hurt that. Be careful of the ultra successful short king. See, that was it, the successful short king. That's crazy.

And when I met this guy, I was like, he's a dream. Like his foreign, cute accent, like we really vibed. He was like, I'm not like, you know, I'm kind of, I don't really care about the sceney stuff. Like, yes. And then I've never met someone that wanted to put me down so bad. Like he very successful. I was always like, you're amazing.

Like you're so great. He was like, your, your career is so embarrassing, can't be seen with you in public. Like, don't walk near me at this event because like we can't be seen together. Why would you accept that? Well, because it was kind of put through in a way that was really like disguised. In the beginning, it was like,

my team says I can't be seen with you. I'm really sorry, but it's a bad look for me. You have to stay private with that. But Georgia, I'm gonna have to push back here where that, that, no. Well, I'm like, you know, I've been on dating shows. Like, I'm like, this comes with a thing. But you did keep me private for a long time.

So if you had, thank God you didn't. Because I was obviously very, yeah, I was like, I was. I was like, you know, I get it. I've been on dating shows. It's not the best look, you know? I'm like, I can understand. Like, I'm not like, you know, I get it. I've been on dating shows. It's not the best look, you know? I'm like, I can understand. Like, I'm not like, you know, I get it. I get it.

You're a successful guy. This is probably not, I get it. But eventually this better not be a problem. Right. And then it was like, you know, masks in that he's really proud of me, but whatever. And then we would have arguments. I kid you not, he'd look at me and say, we do not compare. I'm here.

You're here. You need to know that. And I was like, I never said I would just ball. I was like, wait, what the hell? That's so sad. That's so sad. And then he would like snap out of it and be like, I don't know why I said that, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm so proud of you.

And I'm like, are you like, okay? That's what I think. Are we, we need, well, we are recording this. So we are doc, like we need to come up with some key phrases for you. Like when they say, help me. I'm sorry for saying, I don't know why I said that. Yeah, yeah.

In a calm, immediate like. I'm like, it's okay. Oh, you're forgiven. I honestly forgot what you said. If they don't know why they said that, then the answer is they're a psychopath. Literally, I know, but he would be, the atmosphere is so weird.

If they say something crazy and then blackout and go, I don't know why I said that. Literally. Or I'll write this down. Psychopath. I know, I don't know. I need to change that part of me that's too forgiving and accepting

because those things grow and they grew. and I was like, damn, okay, should have paid attention to that. And that happened on my birthday, by the way. It was my birthday when that one happened. What's the relationship with your dad? My dad, yeah, this is where, this is why I've done the research in the emotional trauma. And I think it's because my mom and my dad never got married. They are like really good friends, but my dad's from Sydney in Australia. My mom's from Queensland.

She moved when she was young. So they had like a long distance friendship. My dad worked in Sydney. So there was only times that I could see him. It wasn't like very frequent and he's a great dad. But when I was young, there was a lot of stuff that I missed in that connection. So I feel now I look for emotionally unavailable men because I'm trying to like prove to myself that I can make them stay because I felt when I was

young, I didn't have that, you know what I mean? That didn't choose you. And I love my dad. We get along great now and it's like, he was the best dad he could be. But I feel like that really did something. It is crazy how that. Did something. It did, it did, it did something.

And also my mom has bipolar and her emotions are very, so when I was young, I was always trying to over read her emotions. So now when I'm in a relationship, I'm always like reading into things and like catering to people's emotional needs. But that's all I mean. That must be very difficult.

That's hard. I can imagine, I know very little about bipolar, except the fact that it's incredibly difficult for the person suffering from it and obviously the people and family members. But I can understand why you have an exceptional empathy for people acting out of pocket, maybe a little bit. And emotional fluctuation.

I'm like, oh, I've seen this before. This is fine. My mom's like this. This is normal. I know this. I grew up with this. I'm comfortable with this. I know this.

And my mom's like, get away from them. And I'm like, yeah, true. If they like you, like, yeah, I get it. She's amazing. She's like, that's not okay. You shouldn't be with people like that. But I'm like used to that. So it's a little hard. But I'm very aware is the part.

You are very aware, but I'm really bad at applying that. Unless you're in it. Yeah. When I'm in it, I'm blind. You can DM us. I don't know if you have my number, text Natalie or whatever, but just be like, Hey, a guy just said this to me. Like just wondering if, quick question. Yes, no.

Told me I was a loser five minutes later, said doesn't know why, said that, like is that normal behavior? And I'll be like, get out, run. Okay. Yeah. But wait, he did just take his shirt off. Wait, he is kind of actually looking real good.

Hold on, I'll text you back in a minute. But he's taking me to lunch, so. I'll get back to you after this. We're going on a holiday. He split the bill with me. It was very nice. It was really sweet. Yeah, I probably will do that from now on. I'll take you up on that. So, Battle Camp. Yes, really fun.

Yeah, well, you almost won. How did you feel about your best friend, Lorenzo, winning when you had the odds in your favor? Honestly, so happy. Like, it was, I voted for Lorenzo. I also have won a Netflix show. So I was kind of like, I'm here for the ride. You know, I'm just going to see how far I can go. You didn't need the money. Never thought, I mean like everyone, everyone needs money. I would have loved 250K.

Like I would be like, thank you so much. I could have done a lot with that, but I think Lorenzo was the most deserving plus Lorenzo can do so much more with it than me. I feel like, you know, being on one show hasn't really had his time to like pop into things yet and like start a brand, start a life, you know, work. So I feel like this is going to change his life so much and he's so amazing. And he really like, me and him were very similar in the show. I feel like we were very like neck and neck at a lot of stuff, but he outdid everyone.

So he was the most deserving physically, mentally, emotionally, and also bias-ly. Like he was my best friend. What was the challenge you were most afraid of doing? I mean, going into it, I didn't know it would be this bad, but the submerged one, they make it look so much more chill than it was. Like we were in that ice bath thing for hours. Like they were doing, so they wouldn't tell you how long you're sitting in there. It was just like a battle of your mental strength. So

you're sitting there for like six minutes, 10 minutes in and out, like all day. And none of us are like tapping out. We're all like, no, we've come so far. This is like horrible. We have to win. So they like changed the last round to be, you had to hold your head under the water in the ice and they don't show how bad it was, but like, it was bad. Like I was like forced drowning myself pretty much. Like my body was like seizing and I like breathed water in my mouth and I'm like fighting because I could hear. But like, just to be clear, you were always safe?

We were always safe. We had heart monitors on. There was like a med team on the side. Like we were safe. It was controlled. But you were pushing your bodily limits. Yeah. And I could feel that, but I was like, really competitive. Have you taken an ice bath since? No. Okay.

You did win the first time you did it though. Yes. Yes, I did. I won Okay. You did win the first time you did it though. Yes. Yes, I did. I won. So it was worth the trauma, but like they made me do it again in the final and I was like, you guys are so mean for this because I was like crying after I was like having nightmares about it. It was horrible.

Did you go to a sleepaway camp? What sleepaway camp? Is that an American thing? Like the kids send their, like the parents send their kids off, they're like, bye. No, we don't do that in Australia. The parents actually love their kids taking care of their kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm kidding, that's cute. Or they're too poor. We were too poor. Oh, okay. Is it expensive? Is that an expensive thing? I think so. I never went either. Getting someone else to take care of your kid?

Is it like a summer camp thing? Oh, that's so fun though. That would be cool. Yeah, I mean, I guess a cheap version of sending your kids away to have someone else watch them for a period of time overnight. But like, what a cool thing. Like as a parent, you're just like, bye, and you just get your life back for a little.

It was kind of nice. Maybe like these days I wouldn't do it. I did go to one, I think it was only like a week. Like, I don't think it was that long, but I remember I called my mom every single, like constantly, and she was like, "'Honey, stop calling me, you're at camp." Make some friends, leave me alone.

I am busy. Mom's having fun. So good. I love that. I was like, can I call my mom again? Like, seriously. Like, you gotta stop, get on the horse. Who do you think brought the most drama? Because to me, like, Tony was overreacting.

Brie and Louis, to me, looked like a showman. Yeah, that was really cute. I love Brie and Louis. They were cute. But the drama, they weren't dramatic. I feel like Tony was the most dramatic. They cut a lot of that out. Like, he's very, way more dramatic than that.

So, was his exit more confusing in person? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No good. Can you elaborate? I don't know if I can, but I would love to. But no, he got a great edit.

Yeah. Tony. They love Tony. They love Tony. They love Tony. Who do you love? Who don't you love? I didn't bond that great with probably Morgan.

I feel like she was a different kind of personality to me and I'm not good with people that are like a little more introvert. I take it like the wrong way. I'm like, they don't like me. But I also feel like she didn't like me. So it was on point. Like we ended up voting for each other. I didn't vibe with her that much.

Outside the show, she was really sweet. Spell ecstasy for me. Oh my gosh, sir, I am a really good speller. You are a good speller. I was terrified. I am already going EX, unfortunately. That's what everyone said they would do. I can spell for shit, so I do be clear.

E-C-S-T-A-S-Y, I know that. On the spot. Say it again, spell it again, spell it again, spell it again. I spelled it wrong, T-A-S-Y. You spelled it wrong on here? You spelled it wrong. Ha ha, it's hard. That's right. I'm sorry.

I spelled it wrong on the sheet. I spelled C-Y on the show. Oh, they got it wrong. See? That's how I spelled it because in your head, this is one of those words when you're visualizing it. You've already put a C in the front. You've already put an S.

Did you go like? No, I was too scared because I'm falling off this thing. So I was originally going to ride on my hand, but then I couldn't. I'm holding on for like dear life. I already put a C and an S and I'm like, which is the last one? Is it C-Y-S-Y? As soon as I said it, I was like, no, no, no, it's S-Y. And they're like, no, you've said it, you're just locked in.

One of my absolute favorite things to watch are like high school spelling bees. They're spelling bees in general, I guess. It's awesome. Yeah. I think maybe because like I can't- Can you spell restaurant? That's easy. R-E-S.

You think restaurants easy? T-A-U-R-A-N-T. Toront restaurant. Toront! Toront! No, but it's like the- You know them, you love them! Toront! The intensity was like- We were just being a nerd, now we're just sucked on TV. You know I'm, you love them torrents.

The intensity where they're like. We're just being a nerd now and it's sucked on me. The intensity where they're just, they're like, can we pull up a couple more workings? Can I have it in a sentence, please? Can we spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, spell, a pen and paper, I would have slayed. But like me and the mind, I'm like, my brain was not working like that. And also I have a fear of heights. Polly went before me. She got her word wrong.

They launched her so far in the sky. She landed on her face on the beanbag and she's like swollen. And then they're like, Georgia, you're up. And I'm like, no, I hate heights. I'm so scared. So I'm like begging them to like, if I get it wrong, only use one man. Don't use two men to launch me. And I'm like, no, I hate heights. I'm so scared. So I'm like begging them to like, if I get it wrong, only use one man. Don't use two men to launch me. Like I'm scared. Was there any word in your head that you were like, please don't ask me?

At that point, probably just everything. I was so scared. I'm like, I don't know. You're like my own name. Don't. The first word they gave me was swimmer. And I was like, oh, easy, slay. And then the next one's like ecstasy. And I'm like, okay, I know this word. What do you think the hardest four letter word is to spell? What is this word? Oh, that can be anything. It's got me off the top of my head.

Can you spell foe? Foe? Uh huh. P-H-O. Oh. Can you spell chic? I'm like scared. Don't ask me anything.

Big tech Sydney one time said. No. How do you spell S-H-E-C-K? No, not the sound out. And then he goes, like, stylish. I'm like, she? Wait, that's hilarious. No, I mean.

Like, stylish. I love how you didn't just go for the voice note because that was so crazy to spell it out. It's crazy. Sometimes if you read our text, I sound like the one who's 18 years younger, who's in school still. You're like, hey mom, how do you spell recess? I wouldn't expect that from you. I feel like it's just a brain thing that you just forget sometimes. He texts me all the time, like how do you spell this? My brain is very good at some things.

And really shit about this. Me too. It's just like, you know. That's me. It uses all that energy for. The good stuff. Well, stuff. Wait, so what word were you thinking? The hardest four letter word. I don't know.

It just was that. Oh, you just did that? I'm sure it's out there. I was like, I don't think there is a hard one. F-A-U-X, by the way. Oh, faux. F-A-U-X? Yeah, faux.

It's like faux fur. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But not real. I think you meant fa. You spelled fa. I was like, F-O-E? That's three. Yeah. I think you meant fa. You spelled fa. I was like F-O-E, that's three. Yeah.

I'm saying how to this one. I mean, it's way too smart for us. We gotta get it out of here. Yeah, my brain. Oh my God. Are you watching anything these days? Are you enjoying anything as a fan? Love Black Mirror.

That's not really reality though, but I've been loving Battle Camp, honestly. I know that sounds stupid because I'm on it, but I've watched it like- You're a narcissist. Yes, so I've been loving Battle Camp, honestly. I know that sounds stupid because I'm on it, but I've watched it. Yes. So I love myself a lot. Just the first show that I'm like actually able to watch of mine that I'm not like cringing on repeat and I'm like, this is what I missed out on. Cause I was in the challenge and I didn't see these people doing that stuff.

Now I'm watching them and I'm like, wow, I didn't know that happened. So did it make you want to do like more challenge? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no that heights were gonna be so heavily involved? They asked me, they like alluded to like, I was like, so what kind of challenges were talking? Like, you know, swimming, maybe some like, what are the zip lining? I was like, what kind of heights does that involve? They're like, nothing crazy.

I was like, okay, cause I have a phobia. Like it's not like a- Perfect, we'll add heights to every single challenge we're doing. And I'm like, no, it's not like a, like I actually like have a full panic. I had a panic attack. They cut it all out.

But like the last thing they were making me do. You do understand reality TV, right? Yeah, I know. But it's like, give me some of the, give me some of the credit. You know, you put me up there, like make me look bad. Like I tried. What, what black mirror episode do you think is the most realistic that you're afraid of happening?

Oh, I've definitely, it's happening, but what's it called? Nosedive? The one that's like all about likes and what people think of you. Social media, Brian Stiles Howard. I love it. Same R, I haven't seen that one. Love, you need to watch it. It's pretty much like social currency.

So it's like how people interact with you and they can see looking at you, like how liked you are, how many stars you have, what your rating is. And then it's like people will not associate with you if you're ratings low, you can get it marked for like not doing nice things or like. You won't be able to rent a car at a certain place or like a car. If you don't have a rent, a rating.

Oh my God, like I would not have been able to make it this far. So you, everyone's like super fake and like, oh my God. And then you rate each other. It's like the key to my success. And then you rate each other. And it's like, I like your shirt. Do you want it? Yes. And then that gives you like a mark up.

But if you didn't, like they can be like mark you down. They mark you down, like in front of you. Interesting, cause I honestly feel like part of the key of my success is like just being completely oblivious to how people really feel about me. And then people kind of are like, I don't know how you show up in the world

the way people feel about you. Yeah, so this is like- And then I get this a lot from people in Bachelor Nation, which is like, I wish I didn't care about people hating me, like they hate you. That's just nice back-handed compliment. You really deal with hatred so well. Dude, you're so good at ignoring everyone

that fucking hates you and talks so much shit about you. You're like so good at ignoring me. And you're like, whoa, whoa. People are talking shit about me? Yeah. I wish people were like you and just like not care that people about you, you're like so good at it. You're like, whoa, whoa. People are talking shit about me? Yeah. I wish I could be more like you and just like not care that people hate you. You know? I recently signed a deal and I got a lot of DMs from people being like, man, like that

many more reasons to ignore the haters. And I'm like, what? What? You're haters? That's hilarious. What have you heard? It's so funny because I, like you feel like I'm like a victim to that mentality. I always thought that you're just like, whatever, but like, you just don't realize, I guess.

Well, no, I mean, I, yeah, you're just like, oh, I'm glad I honestly, I didn't want to tell people. I mean, like the one few times I've seen you like, you just so unbothered. I'm like, I love that. No, I don't care. It's literally what you just said. I just said to you. Well, I don't. No, I don't care. It's literally what you just said to the site. I just said to you. Well, I tell the people,

because they're like, well, how do you do it? I'm like, I don't look. I care. Yeah, out of sight, out of mind. I care, of course I care. I'm a human being, but I don't go looking for it. Looking. Hey guys, what do y'all think about me?

Yeah. On Reddit. Like literally. A lot of reality TV stars who tell me they think it's fun to go on Reddit and read about themselves because it's like ha ha ha. And I'm like. You cry yourself to sleep.

Don't lie. Yeah. Reddit's like don't go there. I don't have that. I'm like, I have self-control. Like no one goes on there to compliment people. No, that shit is scary. That's scary.

It's like how to make soups and talk shit. Yeah. So true. Like I came here for a recipe, but by the way, Georgia fucking sucks. I hate her fucking face. She's so annoying. I want her off this show.

Anyways, the tortilla soup is the recipe. Love you guys. That is so accurate. Going back to the Plank situation, you said that you almost had a panic attack or, cause from our point watching it back, it looked like more you were just trying to manipulate chase. So there was a moment I switched that on because I was already crying. So I was like, I don't want to go off this plank.

This is like, I'm going to act my life out right now. And I was already crying, but I've walked out to the plank and I've seen that I'm on a safe one. And I'm like, I already have tears on my face. I need to kind of play into this. So he thinks I'm on a bad one. Otherwise he's going to take my plank. So I for a moment put it on, but as soon as I looked at Chase, I was like,

I'm going to laugh. Like he's just so un-serious. I can't look at him and like, be like acting like this. So yeah, I broke character and yeah, I was very terrified though. The tears were real and then I was like, I'm gonna play into this for a bit for a moment to manipulate Chase, it didn't work.

I respected you, you were like, I'm good. I had to hustle because like, I didn't wanna go off that thing. That's my worst fear. I even like, you know, betrayed Cutie in all honesty. We like made a pact that we wouldn't, before we went on those planks, we were not going to like sell each other out. We're like, we're going to protect each other because we're so scared of heights. It all went out the window. A fighter plane.

Girl, every man for themselves. I'm not going off this plank. And then I was like going anyway. Like Cutie, I'm sorry. Don't hate me. So sorry. It's really, I just had to do what I had to do. So what's next for you? Good question. I'm actually, I'm taking some acting classes off the back of this. I actually want to get into acting.

Turns out I know how to act. Turns out I'm a professional. Dates one. Anyway, no, I actually really want to do acting. I did a short film a while ago and I found it really fun. And now I want to see like, if I can like tap into that a little bit more and like, where it could take me. Like I, Netflix is cool.

Like if you're cool with them, they have a lot of opportunities. If I took it seriously, I could see what, what would be there, you know, see if there's something they could put me in. Maybe, maybe Netflix help, help me out. No, but like, I also want to try, maybe, maybe. Netflix, help, help me out. No, but like, I also want to try like hosting or something. I feel like also want to start a podcast. So many things on my mind.

And I'm like, damn, what do I do? What kind of podcast do you want to start? Like a dating one, I feel. Okay, like tell me one. An advice one. I have so much trauma that you guys know a little bit about. We've touched on, but I have a lot more. And I feel like I really want to like educate girls.

Would you be willing to like talk about your escapades? And I'm a very honest and raw like. For real. Yeah. I feel like I'd give all the tea. Interesting. In a way that like, I'm not going to get sued, but yeah, I'll give the tea. Yeah.

Just come up with like aliases like short king. Yeah, literally. I feel like I could give enough, but not too much, you know? Yeah. It's a lot of stuff that people should know about. You know, I know a place. You do? Yeah.

NVIDIA. Hook me up. Yes. I have a whole deck planned and stuff, so we should talk about it. Yes. I'm taking this serious. I want to do it. That is my number one requirement.

Okay. Perfect. Then I'm good. And you're in. Yes. Like, if you wanna get rich and actually work, then we can talk. And I love talking and I love meeting people

and hearing stories and relating to people and helping people, so I feel like it's something I should try. And you're living in New York? Yeah. Yeah, I love it. New York's great. Favorite New York story you've experienced

since you've been there. Oh, wow. So many crazy ones I'm trying to filter out, Yeah, I love it. New York's great. Favorite New York story you've experienced since you've been there? Wow. So many crazy ones. I'm trying to filter out the ones I probably can't say. Imagine this is your first episode of your podcast. I don't really know. Honestly, this is sad because when I moved there, I was there for a year. I didn't experience anything. I was kind of like on house arrest with this relationship that I was in. So like, I didn't do anything. I was like boring. Now that I'm like single and like experiencing things, I'm like out and

like having fun, but didn't have fun for a long time. It was just work, film the show. Boring. Like I don't really, I don't really have any crazy stories yet. I need to make crazy stories. Okay. Yeah, I know that's so boring. I'm trying to think, you know what's annoying?

I'll leave here and I'll have the best story. I can't think of it right now. Okay. That's okay. Do you have a favorite restaurant or a favorite like? Oh, yes. Yeah, can we get a rec? That's what you might if you tell me yours. Tell me yours first.

Okay, the American bar. Why, I've not been there. Oh my God, the American Bar. Why, I'm not up in there. Oh my God, the American Bar, go on Thursdays. Pretty basic, but good. Okay, go on Thursdays. They have a special of bourbon chicken. Whereabouts is this? West Village.

Oh my God, love West Village, okay, I'm going. Oh yeah, you've got that. So good, they have an amazing martini. Oh my God. They have an amazing Greek chopped salad. And they have an amazing bourbon chicken. Okay, I'm gonna try that. Natalie loves their bourbon chicken so much,

we have flown to New York on a Thursday just to get the bourbon chicken. We've like changed flights, you were like, no, we need to get there earlier so we can get there in time to have dinner at American Bar for the bourbon chicken. That's pretty good. And every time I'm there, and I'm like,

please make this a staple on your menu. Like, please take it off of Thursdays. Oh my God, I'm gonna try, okay, that staple on your menu. Like please take it off of Thursdays. Oh my God. I'm going to try. Okay. That sounds amazing. Okay. What's yours?

I like French food. So I like, um, Pastao I think it's called. I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. Is that it? That's it. That's it. Okay. That one.

That's it. I get everything. I like, um, wait, the chicken, the chicken pie art thing that they have. They have a really good French onion soup. That's my favorite. They have a really good burger. That I haven't tried. I probably need to try that. But yeah, I love French food.

So I'm down on a burger. Is their French fries your favorite? French fries are good. I'm thinking of like, oh yeah, they, you know, their iced tea is really nice. Like everything basic. No, French onion soup is really good. It's really French. And it has a good layer of cheese and stuff.

Is it actually French? Is that why it's called French onion soup? Yeah, I guess. The actual onion is French? That's why it's called French fries? Or is it Frenchies because that's the brand? Is it French because the onion is from France? According to the internet, French onion soup is indeed from France.

Yeah. What about French fries? It was invented by none other than King Louis. King Louis? King Louis? Wow, they're quick on the facts. XV's 14th, the 14th? King Louis? Is that XV's Roman number?

He is 15. XV is 15. XV is like getting into the soup. He's now watering his soup. You think he was on Reddit? He was like, hey guys. He's like, he's my French onion soup. It's just been stolen.

Love that. Love Louie for that. Love Louie for that. I can't. You guys. Turn around to Medieval Times. Never had it. Medieval Times is crazy.

It's a favorite. You wouldn't like French onion soup, I don't think. That's why I've never tried it. You know, I'm not even an onion fan, but it's so good. It's just favorite. You wouldn't like French onion soup, I don't think. That's why I've never tried it. I'm not even an onion fan, but it's so good. It's just like all the cheese on top. That's the best part. That's my part when you pull it and it's like stretching. I'm like, damn.

Do you like a mozzarella stick? Love. But I want it to be like that. It's gotta have the cheese ball. Dry when I get it. Instead of like taking it and then all the cheese falls out. It's just like the wrapper. You need to try. You just get the whole ovid of crust. What's it called? Ruby Rosa. Instead of like taking it and then all the cheese falls out. And it's just like, it's just like a wrapper.

You just get the whole o'bit of crust. What's it called? Ruby Rosa. Ruby Rosa. You've been to Ruby Rosa? No, once. Really good mozzarella sticks. Ruby Rosa?

Yeah. Okay, I'm going there. Really good pizza and mozzarella sticks. Yum. You guys have the regs, right? You need to send me the regs. Where do you go? Just like.

I like rubies. Rubies? It's an Australian-owned place in New York. Little Ruby's Cafe. and they're really good. The food is insanely good. Like, they just opened one near where I live in Williamsburg and it's amazing. They live in my house, that's where we met.

Yeah, what was that? We met in Williamsburg. You met there? Oh my god. That's where we like talked about killing each other. Wait, there's so many people. I get that vibe there, yes. No, that's so funny.

I love Williamsburg, it's great. It's really cute. It's really cute, but yeah, rubies is amazing. Okay, that's so funny. I love Williamsburg. It's great. It's really cute. But yeah, Ruby is amazing. It's good food. It's good to see you, Georgia. I know. It's so good to see you. And so nice to finally meet you. I had so much about you. Did we meet before this or no? No. I think I just know you because I've watched so much of the podcast. Yes, we spoke. Yeah, that's it. And we were like, meaning to hang out. Then I fled the state. You fled the scene. Yeah. Left.

Left the chat. I left this whole place. I got pregnant and you were like, fuck this place. No! That's more of a reason for me to be like, hang out with me. I used to be a midwife. Like, I love that shit. You did?

You used to be a midwife? Yes. Do you want to pull out my next baby? I swear I told you this. When you say, so like you were just delivering babies? Yep. I literally filmed Two Out to Handle season say, so like you were just delivering babies? Yep. I literally filmed Too Hot to Handle season three, then went back to normal life, went back to a hospital job, delivering babies, like three babies one night sometimes.

Literally no one, I had to do a lot. Why don't more people know that about you? I know, because it's not hot, right? Like they want you to be like too hot to handle. That's like not that hot. It's kind of hot. I feel like it's like, it's fun Like they want you to be like too hot to handle. That's like not that hot. It's kind of hot. I feel like it's like, it's fun.

It's great. Hot, I don't know. It's kind of gross. It makes you very- Like it's amazing, but it's like, you know, it's bloody. It makes you very unique in a group of people. Let's email, like reality TV stars, it's a melting pot of various backgrounds,

intelligence and things like that. But like there's not a ton of people in the reality TV space who have something really going for them other than their face. Yes, I think that's what they like to come across as as well. So when I met them, the production, they were like, you're a midwife?

They're like, I don't think anyone here has ever studied. Anyone else on the cast was like, really? No one's read a book. Yeah, like, wait, you're the first person with a degree? Like, that's crazy. I was like, yeah. That's very cool though. It was honestly the best thing I've ever done.

Like, it's amazing. Do you, if I were to like give birth right here, right now, would you know exactly what to do? Or would you be like, no, exactly. I delivered a baby in a car park once. It was amazing. I was literally about to leave my shift and then they were like, I had my bag and everything. They're like, do you want to deliver a baby in a car park once. It was amazing. I was literally about to leave my shift and then they were like, I had my bag and everything.

And they're like, do you want to deliver a baby in the car park? And I was like, are you serious? Yes. And we were just like run down the hallway with an emergency like delivery kit, got outside. She's like in the car giving birth. I'm like catching the baby.

Amazing. It was so sick. That's pretty cool. Yep. It was the sickest. I have so many cool stories about that. Not only is she stunning, but she can deliver babies and she can spell ecstasy. And restaurant.

Yes, okay, love that for me. And restaurant. Your podcast will be called birthing problems. That's a good name. Wait, that's a good name. Like dating problems? I don't know. Birthing problems.

And we can workshop it. People just think I'm like giving birth every other day. Hey, thanks for causing birth-ing problems. It's Georgia, what's your problem? Me just talking to people in the hospital. You're having a baby. Wrong number? That could be fun.

Well, this has been so much fun. This was so fun. Oh my God, I love you guys. We should hang out for a go. You going to stage coach? No, I'm not going to stage coach. I kind of wish I was. Are you going?

Yeah. Maybe I should be. We're just going for Friday night. You should come. I messed up because I went to Coachella and then I flew back to New York and I dumped all my outfits and stuff off. And then I've come here for work.

And I'm like, I should have just gone to stage coach. Everyone's going. Maybe I'll change my mind and come. You should come. Yeah, honestly, Lana Del Rey thing. That's what I want. That's how we're going. Literally, I need to see that.

You do. You can find a pair of cowboy boots somewhere in LA. Yeah, I'll just rent something or like, go to the, yeah. I'll find something. So fun. Go dumpster diving, I'll find something. Yeah, I kind of think I should stay here for a while. It's fun.

I'm having a good time. Do you miss LA at all? I do, but I'm like, in. Yeah, I kind of think I should stay here for a while. It's fun. I'm having a good time. Do you miss LA at all? I do, but I'm like, is that just my brain playing games on me because I'm just visiting and getting the good part of it and like seeing people lightly. Would I love to live back here? I don't know.

I really like the life of New York. It's cool. Yeah, I don't think you would. Yeah. I want to see like different stuff, meet new people time, New York's like that. Here, it's like, I want to see like different stuff, meet new people all the time. New York's like that. Here it's like, I'm going to the same place, the same people, getting bored of that, you know?

That is very true. I like difference. There are the same people everywhere you go. And New York, any night I go out and meet everyone I see is new. I don't ever see the same people. Everyone's cool. Where can they follow you? Find you on social?

On Instagram and TikTok mainly and Snapchat. At Margot Robbie. You're Snapchatting still? Well, I am. I'm getting into it. You know, it's not my vibe. That's where all the fucking content comes from. You would do it too for a check.

How many times are you posting a day? You got to post around like 60. 60? Yep. I tried that for like a week. I did it for a week. I was great. Now I'm shitty.

So I need to figure it back out. But you know, it's better than, you know, a week. I'm like, I'm going to post every day. I'm going to post every day. I'm going to post every day. I'm going to post every day. I'm going to post every day. I tried that for like a week. I did it for a week, I was great. Now I'm shitty, so I need to figure it back out. But you know, it's better than, you know, posting on Instagram stories and it not going anywhere. You could be doing something with it.

That's true. You could be making money off it. So you gotta get into it. Well you can find me on Snapchat as well. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, exactly. We're gonna have a dual account.

Sure, yeah. A link account. We'll do a dual account. Yeah. Yeah. A link account. We'll do a dual account. Yeah, yeah. For our dates. Okay. All right, Georgia, great seeing you. Great to see you guys.

Bye. That's so much fun. Yay! Bye. Well, that'll do it for our show today. We're pretty sure we're back tomorrow for our very special Going Deeper. So hopefully we'll see you tomorrow, bye. You