The Viall Files - E928 - RHOA’s Angela Oakley, Tucker Wetmore, The Valley Reunion, Summer House & Nat's Last Minute Farm Trip

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Last night was a jaw-dropping episode of RHOA… literally! Angela Oakley joins us to explain the tea, throw some shade, and hit us with another iconic one-liner. Meanwhile, Tucker Wetmore joins to discuss his experience at Stagecoach and sliding into a mystery celebrity’s DMs. “If you say this to me, I’m gonna put some juice on it!” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896   Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/    Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: [e-mail] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles     THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Hero Bread  - Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to https://www.hero.co  and use code VIALL at checkout. Mack Weldon - Give your closet a breath of fresh air for spring. Go to https://www.mackweldon.com and get 25% off your first order of $125 or more, with promo code VIALL. Rosetta Stone - Grab Rosetta Stone’s LIFETIME Membership for 50% OFF! That’s unlimited access to 25 language courses for life! Visit https://www.rosettastone.com/viall to get started and claim your 50% off TODAY! Car Gurus - Buy or sell your next car today with Car Gurus at https://www.cargurus.com Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (08:47) - Programming Notes (10:42) - The Valley and Household Headlines (26:20) - Angela Oakley Joins (46:16) - More RHOA Thoughts (50:07) - Summer House (01:06:48) - Tucker Wetmore Talks DMs (01:10:38) - TikTok (01:12:49) - Life After Fame (01:16:55) - Dating Life (01:22:41) - Getting Into Music (01:27:39) - Movies (01:30:33) - Reactions To Success and Sports (01:34:50) - Outro   Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @angelaoakley34 @tuckerwetmore @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell   

What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the VyLFiles. I am your host, Nick, and it's good to be back with you. The Met Gala was last night. Well, it's tonight for us when we're recording, but it's last night for y'all. So we don't even know what happens. I do someday wanna go. I do.

Yes, of course. I think we're closer than we were last year. We're inching our way, for sure. For sure. Do you not wanna go? I would love to go. I feel like maybe like 20, 20,

52 will be our year. 2052, oh my God. How old will you be then? Dead. 2052. I'll be dead. How many years have I been back? That's like almost 20 years. It's 20, 27 years. Oh my God, I'll be like in my prime 40s.

Period. Period. You won't be dead. You'll be close, but not yet. On the brink. I feel like science is going in the right direction. I was asked about my age over the weekend and there was shock and amazement. There was.

Was there performance as well? Or do you feel like it was genuine? No, it felt very genuine. Yeah. No, you, you, you. Someone fell off their chair. How old did they think you were? One person said 28.

I thought that was a little crazy, but I'll take early thirties. She wanted to suck your dick. It was a early 30s. She wanted to suck your dick. It was a he. Perfect, he wanted to suck your dick as well. This is the first time I was hearing this story. Well, no, me and Nick, we were away from each other for four days.

I was still a little mom-ing. Nick was working. I was working. Then we went to the farm where we got married. I did, I went to the farm. I was talking to my sister Friday night. Nick left us Thursday, and then Friday night, I went to the farm. I was talking to my sister Friday night. Nick left us Thursday. And then Friday night, me and River were eating supper

and I was on the phone with my sister and she was talking about like, oh yeah, we're doing this tomorrow. We're kinda just hanging out at the farm. I've got two litters of bunnies and a new puppy and new baby goat. She was just telling me all the new animals that were there and River's very much in her animal phase.

Loves animals. Loves animals. Loves animals, knows the names of them, knows what they say, like very much in her animal era. And she's 15 months. Does that make her a genius? I don't know, you tell me, she's all we have to go by. Yeah, and so I'm like, you know what? Nick's gone, it's just me and Riv.

Like, what if we just came? And she was like, I'll pick you up. Now I got adventurous. I got adventurous, I got spontaneous. And I booked a flight for the next morning and we went for, I don't know. 24 hours. 24 hours. And had the best time.

She had so much fun. We got there and she, we like immediately saw the bunnies and she was like, like her face, she just like lit up. She also, you know, we're teaching gentle and we're teaching soft hands and they're very, two hard things to teach a toddler. And so she kept wanting to pick the bunnies up by their ears. And that was not good. Well, because they probably, she probably, she probably thinks they're stuffed animals.

Yeah, no, yeah. She does pick up her stuffed animals. How was your first time flying solo with River? That was my first time playing solo. That's right. Yeah, but like she was just a little bean back then. She was younger. Honestly, the flight there, she was asleep.

We flew Southwest and I made friends with the gay agent. And so she was like, come on, baby, it's your turn. Come on. And I was definitely like B57. Like it was definitely not my turn, but she let me and River get on with the A's. And then there was a flight attendant standing in the front row and it was not a full flight so they really wanted everyone to spread out, like they were like not, you can't all get in the front of the plane, like

everyone's got to spread out. And so I was like, could we sit here? And she was like, I'm only allowing two people to sit here, so if you have a family of three it's not gonna work. And I was like, no, it's just me and the baby. And she was like, could we sit here? And she was like, I'm only allowing two people to sit here. So if you have a family of three, it's not gonna work. And I was like, no, it's just me and the baby. And she was like, come on in. And so we got the whole front row to ourselves and River knocked out before we even took off. Front row?

Front row. You had B50, whatever the fuck, and you ended up in the front row. Because she let me go with the A's because I made friends with her and River was smiling at her. And she fell asleep before we even took off, which thank God, slept the whole flight. The man in front of me was this very old man and I could see his text. And that, let me tell you, that is my favorite thing to do on a flight,

is to eavesdrop and read some text and keep it in front of me. And I honestly wish that I had not. This man was asking who I'm hoping is his wife He He said something about like you want to get that ass with winky face tongue I'm like was getting real dirty and she was like, yeah, baby I do and I was like I've got to stop but I could not take my eyes off I'll be locked in at that point I would be thanking and the Lord that he like gave me that in-flight entertainment

I know. Because usually Wi-Fi is just never working. And that's what he said. He said, I tried out the free Wi-Fi and so I figured I'd text you. That was his first text to her. And honestly, I will- This is definitely not his wife. Well, she texted Nick.

She sent very much like, yeah, nice, okay, cool, until he started talking dirty. And then she was like, emoji, emoji, emoji. Yes, yes, yes, daddy, crazy, crazy. And then he would like look kind of like over, I think maybe he was looking at River cause obviously she was asleep, but I had to act. So like, I'm not staring at your phone. I was like looking out the window, I'd close my eyes.

I would act like I was doing absolutely anything but reading this man's text. Wait, and you said there's an older couple? He was an older man just by himself. Like how old? Late 60s probably. Good for him. Yeah.

And them. He was working on it. He's working, he's working. And anyways, I have never felt stronger in my arms than this trip with River. First of all, I mowed the lawn the day before. Let's just get that out in the air. I mowed the lawn, the front yard,

and then there was a thunderstorm rolling in. So I was like, oh my God, I have to finish or else we're gonna like be fucked. And River was asleep for the front lawn. And then she wakes up as soon as I start the back. And I was like, you gotta do this with me, honey. We got, we gotta finish. So I bring her outside.

She's just like standing there watching me for a while. We're playing peek-a-boo. I'm like, where's mommy going? To the side of the house. And they're like, peek-a-boo, I'm back. Is that why there's a couple like patches that were just like that? Yes, yes, yes. Okay.

And then she was like chasing me. It was a whole thing. Like we were really trying to get it done. We were a team for sure. Did you start the lawnmower by yourself? It's electric. It's electric, yes. But there-

Oh, okay. Press the button. But there are a lot of buttons that would have made my life easier had I had known about them. She definitely figured it out on her own. There was no tutorial. And what honestly made it a little worse for me is as I'm like killing myself on the front lawn, landscapers drive by and they do the lawn next to me with a writing mower. And I have never felt more watched and judged in my entire life, I will be honest with you. They're probably just checking you out. I think they were probably looking at all the missing

patches or in all this, you know, I'm just. Well, they didn't come over and offer you a card or anything. What an opportunity to get new business. No, they were like, she's got it handled. Anyway, so I was really sore from doing all that. So then now I'm going to the airport, I've got River's car seat, I've got our suitcase with both of our stuff in it

and I have like the diaper bag and I have River. I can't put her down to walk because she'll end up like not going the- Running. Yeah, we're going the wrong direction, right? She's not heading the right way so i'm holding her the whole time and when i landed in savannah my sister picked me up and we got in the car and as we drove off there was a bomb threat in the savannah airport and everyone

had to evacuate like people couldn't take their things like stuff was being left on flights like they were like this is going to take pretty much a whole day to get everything back on schedule. Like they were so behind people, like they had to find their luggage after they all came back in just nightmare. So terrifying praying for the bath, everybody. Well thankfully you got back in time because you like you came back the next day. I did.

But we, but she had so much fun at the farm and she was just running around and seeing all the animals and was just like, it was so cute and she she had so much fun at the farm and she was just running around and seeing all the animals and was just like, it was so cute and she loved it so much. And it's like so fun to start seeing now she's at an age and Leah, you'll get there soon of like, where you start to see them like experience things through their eyes and you're like, oh no, that's so cool. Like they think this is the greatest thing ever

and it's something you've seen a million times. I was away from her for three days. I think that's the longest I've ever been away from her and it honestly felt like she developed and evolved. Like it was it was not fun. I mean I enjoyed missing her. I do feel like she missed me so that was a new experience that was fun. But I thought I might have to leave her for like five weeks and end up not having to leave her for like for work and I honestly couldn't imagine what that would have been like. No, she would have been a completely different baby. Yeah, so, I don't know, that's crazy. Well, we have an amazing show lined up for you today.

And not too long, Angela Oakley from The Real Housewives of Atlanta will be joining us after an explosive episode last night where she got, she was boxing with everyone. She said stretch marks around your lips. Her mouth got mouths. She said that mouth got miles on it, honey. That was crazy. If you do get, you know, you see people with,

who go a little nuts with those injections and you get those stretch marks. You've never seen that? I don't think she was referring to filler though. She was talking about like sucking it. Oh, she definitely wasn't. No. Yeah. Well, I was just like,. Oh, she definitely wasn't. No. Yeah.

Well, I was just like, you know, good point, you know, like be very cautious with those, those, those injections. But anyways, you know, either way, I'm glad we got to the bottom of it. She will be joining us as well. Also Tucker Wetmore is joining us fresh off of his appearance at Stagecoach. He's like one of the hottest new country artists

in country music today. And we got to hang out with him for a bit. He slid into someone's DMs, where I really appreciated the swing, at least. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone's like, seems to be swinging. I found them to be surprisingly wholesome. How many DM slides do you think

this particular lady gets every day? Thousands. So many. I can't even think of the number. Yeah. Also this week on Going Deeper, Lexi Wood will be joining us to talk about Thousands. So many. I can't even think of the number. Yeah. Also this week on Going Deeper, Lexi Wood will be joining us to talk about

her relationship with Jessie. Why, how she ended up on the show in the first place. It'll be a great chance to actually get to know Lexi Wood. She has a very interesting past. She dated Brooklyn Beckham. So I'm curious how she felt like that transition from Brooklyn to Jessie was. Anyways, we'll be talking with her.

So that should be a very interesting episode. I really appreciate how she's been handling herself this season. It's been fun to watch. I've been pretty impressed with Lexi. I think she surprised lots of us with just how she kind of showed up this season. So it would be great to get to know her.

I was really surprised with the Valley reunion seating chart, because what is that? Because like Michelle and Jesse are like my two favorite in terms of following on the show. Jesse's getting a front seat, but Michelle, she's at the end. Do you think it's maybe because they're just so toxic and hate each other so much that they just have to be

the furthest distance apart from each other? I mean, even if that is the case, I would have preferred to have Michelle sitting second seat and Jesse, like, so far toward the end that he's not even on camera. I know, obviously, in terms of, like, we assume the people closest to Andy are probably gonna get, like, the most air time,

but are there other aspects of the seating chart in terms of how they determine it? What's this fan speculation? I mean, I did see someone aspects of the seating chart in terms of how they determine it? What's this fan speculation? I mean, I did see someone comment on the seating chart saying like, funny that Michelle is like the prime storylines, but she's the last seat. And then Sheena commented on that comment saying like, don't worry, I've been there too, or whatever, I don't know, something. So I think it's just like, whoever they think is going to be the most relevant come the

reunion time goes first and second seat. And then from there you separate them based off like who's friends, but who who can't talk to who. And it's also like a color coordinated thing as well. They're sent colors to like match their placements where they are. So maybe she just wore the wrong outfit, you know?

I think it's just that there's more diabolical shit coming from Jesse this season that there's a lot more to talk to Jesse about than there is Michelle. I guess, but I feel like anything diabolical he'd have to do would have to do with Michelle. So it's like, why not have Brittany, Jax, Michelle, Jesse, then Kristen, Luke, Nina, Danny, Jasmine, and Zach?

Because I get they want to keep the couples together, so why not put the couples kind of closer to the end and the two toxic divorcees at the top? I have questions. Maybe Nix got onto something and she's like, I don't wanna have to stare at him the whole time. And they're like, cool, then you can sit at the end. And she's like, okay.

I guess maybe a fit was pitched. Well, Jax Taylor doesn't think he was ever supposed to get married. Okay. Yeah. What a weird thing to say, I guess, just like having a kid, which I guess like the kid came after marriage, right? Yeah, and I think that like everybody in Vanderpump

was like growing up and settling down and whatnot. So he just kind of felt like this was his next step. I don't know that he ever really should have gotten married to be honest, just like his behavior didn't really change that much. And as we've seen from The Valley, it's not like he's matured or tried to like really work on his marriage.

So I'm like, I just don't think it's something that he ever wanted to do. And then I think it was something that he felt he should do because he was with Brittany and she wanted to get married. But- I know Jax will never come on this show because I think I'm still blocked. So I think that's probably a non-starter.

But Jesse had put in a very similar category in terms of how, in different ways, this comes across as an emotional terrorist to women. Again, Jax, I think there literally is some kind of mental health crisis going on there. Jesse seems of sound mind and sound body. He seems like a rational person. And I can't, I just, how does he watch this stuff?

And just be comfortable leaning in, you know? Like it's, you see people in other shows and other seasons like have like, you know, maybe a bad edit or whatever, because they're just kind of messy and they're going for it and fighting with friends. But like, again, when it comes to like this show, and that's why I love it, and so real,

it's just like like we're talking about the most intimate interpersonal relationships husband and wife dad parent, you know things like that and specifically around these men and how they Talk to treat women and it's it's one thing to be Jesse and West and be kind of like Unserious fuck boys who just like need to grow up and like, maybe look a little embarrassing because like, they're in their early 30s like, partying at 4 a.m. Like, it's another thing to look like you're, you're, you're dangerous to women or that you're like, emotionally, you're

an emotional terrorist. And I just, I want to know why, like, if they're comfortable, like, just being known as that on TV. And like, Jesse ended season one, had an opportunity to watch it and no notes, you know what I'm saying? He's come in just as toxic, just as terrible. And just as truly must be who he is. And again, this is how Michelle talks about him in this manner. So it just, I don't know, it still blows my mind

that he had a thing with Anna Nicole Smith. I mean, you know what, she was kind of in some ways, in some ways, maybe not the best comparison. But in terms of the internet's girlfriend of every man's dream, like Sydney Sweeney is today, Anna Nicole Smith kind of was that back then. And the fact that he had a conversation with her, let alone like maybe some kind of dating relationship,

maybe that just like fucked him up forever. Like maybe he just like, he just thought he was like God's gift to human beings, that like it justified him acting this way. I don't know, I'm mesmerized by it, but it's something. I mean, Jesse and Jax are the type of men to just copy someone else's merch line. As we saw, Jax copied Kristin's merch line. That was kind of crazy. It's like screenshots.

I texted Kristin and I was like, I need you to post Jax's response to your text. Literally. But she didn't respond. But I would, and I'm assuming he probably didn't respond. I feel like that's the type of thing Jax would just like ignore. But that was so funny person to be like, Jax, this is a complete like replica. It's an exact rip off and it's photos from her, from her website. It's crazy. It's crazy.

But are we surprised? No. Did you see that Katie from Real Housewives of OC might not be like on next season or there's like a feud happening right now? Have you even seen this? I feel like I just asked Alex Vascon about her and he was like, love, what was happening? She wasn't invited on the cast trip. She starts posting on her own and then a source spoke out and basically said, Katie wanted

to go on the trip, but she was not allowed to. Let's just say her future on Real Housewives of Orange County is not looking bright. What do you mean not allowed to. Let's just say her future on Real Housewives of Orange County is not looking bright. What do you mean not allowed to? I don't know. I'm assuming it was a cast trip hosted by whoever she's feuding with. Do you think Alex Baskin would lie to us?

Yes. Well, and the source also said, she got into a major altercation with Gretchen Rossi and Emily Simpson without saying too much. A major announcement will be coming soon regarding her status on the show. Emily has not liked her since last season. So she-

Gretchen? That's- T. Yeah, season. So Gretchen, that's T. Yeah, it's like Gretchen's new, unless she knows her from before. Definitely will be watching. Alan Cummings says reality stars are constantly begging him to join Traders. He says, I have constant barrages of reality stars now in my DMS and in my life asking me to be on the Traders.

That makes sense. They think he's casting. You know, hottest reality TV show on TV right now with probably the lowest risk of looking bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's really no villains, I guess besides Danielle, but there's really no villains.

And even then, I don't think she was a villain more so than people were just upset with her gameplay. Yeah. You know what I mean? People don't take it personally the way they do in reality TV where it's like, I have a villain and I have a favorite. It's like Traders, you're like, well a favorite. It's like, traders are like, well, I would do things differently,

but like, I don't hate her. I mean, it's interesting how broad of a net they cast in terms of like what shows, you know, obviously you have all of Bravo, Bachelor Nation, you know, all the years of Bachelor alum and Bravo alum. And then you have the gamers. If you've popped in any, just in reality TV in general, plus now I've heard they're trying to elevate it a little bit,

maybe get more athletes or an actor or whatever. So I think it's not gonna just be reality TV stars, things like that. Because they've always, like the past two seasons, they've had some British, they had Parliament the season before, then you had Royalty last season. So I think you're gonna see them sprinkle in

other cast people other than reality TV stars. But I would love to know who's DM'd Alan trying to get on and wondering if they really have a shot or not. I'm guessing if you're DMing, you have no shot. I mean, I don't think Alan is like your way in. Yeah, Alan's not the way in. He's just the host. He has nothing to do.

I mean, I suppose if he really, really was passionate about someone, I guess he could call in a favor and he could certainly put him in the front of the line. But yeah, I feel like if you're DMing Alan and not like calling him or like seeing him when y'all hang out and asking, maybe you aren't close enough to get like put on that way. Unless you recently popped.

Recently in the past 18 months at the maximum and you've popped in some crazy way and maybe you don't have a manager or an agent or you don't like, you know what I'm saying? But most of these reality TV stars that they're casting at this point have been in the business long enough that they have representation of some kind.

So I'm guessing that would be the person you would go through. I've seen some rumors that Love Island people from season six will be. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Peacock. It would be crazy if it's not. Wait, but aren't they filming the spinoff? These bitches are booked and busy.

Well, that's probably. I would not be surprised. Maybe that's why. Rob. Rob and Cordell. I would not be surprised. Maybe that's why. Rob and Cordell. Cordell. Didn't they say Cordell was doing another show or another job?

It's Traders. But he said it wasn't Traders. He said it was scripted. Well, he said it was scripted. But also he could be lying because he doesn't want anybody to know he's gonna be on Traders. Let's not realize people lying.

I feel like that's fair. I mean, I guess he could have just not said anything, you know, if it was true. Someone probably asked them though. Oh, like, yeah. Is it traitors? That's the obvious guess. And I think people are trying to put a negative spin

on him not being a part of the cast, like him and Rob. And then Serena was the one that came out and been like, my baby is booked and busy, that's why he's not in there, but he'll be on there supporting me. So I think that she kind of led into it. And then he obviously got interviewed by TMZ and was like, no, I'm on something. It's a scripted show.

But I'm like, that would also be a good way to divert. TMZ who he told this, yeah. I mean, if I'm him, I'm lying. I'm like, yeah, it was an interview like on the streets that I saw. I feel like Serena said it wasn't Traders. Maybe it's not, I don't know. She just said she's her baby's book did this year.

It'd be crazy if they didn't cast someone from last season on Traders, given like the synergy of Peacock and Love Island. That would be kind of nuts. Honestly, wouldn't Rob have been a good contender for Traders? Because he's kind of straight-faced. Quiet, unassuming, mysterious, hard to read. Can cry randomly.

He'll probably get that... Offer? I'm sure he'll get an offer, but the you know, he'll probably get that, uh... Offer. I'm sure he'll get an offer, but, you know, the Peter Weber, the Dylan kind of role, I could see Rob coasting pretty far, just being quiet and good-looking. I mean, or just like Sam, just like Sam did. I would be shocked if there's, that would be crazy to not have someone from that cast

on the next season of Traders. Agreed. I mean, I wouldn't complain to see them on my screen. This is a housewife I want to see on Traders. Stephanie Sojay from the upcoming Miami Housewives. Oh, a new housewife. She's new. And I know that doesn't apply to Traders,

but there's a line in the trailer where it's like Alexia and her, so an OG versus her going off. And she might have been from the original cast. But she goes, oh, I'm Alexia, and like mocks her. And I was like, huh? Because Alexia always throws her name out there, like that's one of the people she is on the cast. And I just feel like it's going to be a good season in Miami.

I'm so excited. I want updates on Lisa Hoxton. I want to know what Alexia Alexia is no longer with. What's his Peter or no, Peter's her son. I don't even remember. Yeah. What's his name? I'd love to see a single Alexia again. Like Alexia, when you say she throws her name out there,

like third person. No, like, you know who I, you don't, do you know who I am? Yeah, so like in the thing, she's like, don't talk to me that way, I'm Alexia, Napola or whatever. And she goes, oh, I'm Alexia. And like mocks her and I'm like, oh. No, but she mocks Alexia.

Has anyone ever done that? Like said, I'm, I'm Leia. Well, that's embarrassing. No, never. Yeah. No, never. Yeah, no, never. We have this thing called humility. Have you? No, I refuse.

He hesitated. You never walked into a room and said, I'm Nick. And I demand this. I don't know if I ever really like say my name. I've never referred to myself in third person. Yeah, I don't think I ever have either. See, I would want to snap. But Yeah, I don't think I ever have either. See if it wants a snack. But what if someone did? I think we're all in agreement. It's a very embarrassing thing for someone to do.

And yet there's plenty of people who do it. Lala used to do that all the time. Technically, Nick does it every day. Think about it. Every episode. How do we open the show? Welcome back to the Vilephiles. That's so different that's introducing yourself. Thank you very much. No, but Lala used to do that all the time on Vanderpump rules.

She'd be like, you want Lala to pop off? Yeah, true. Is Lala in the room with us? Do you wanna get popped or are you trying to get along? Well, I don't wanna get popped. All right, well up next, Angela Oakley from the Real Housewives of Atlanta joins us and following that we'll break down last week's episode of Summer House.

I kind of already, I've teased a little bit, but I've like, Jesse and West have given me like a revelation about like dating in general. And excited to break it all down with you after Angela, but she is with us right now. So let's bring her on. I'm a bread girl. And that is why I love Hero Bread, because I'm not the only bread girl out there. With Hero Bread, you can focus on your health goals

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That's spelled M-A-C-K-W-E-L-D-O-N.com promo code V-I-A-L-L. Hi, Angela. How are you? Hello. How are you guys? Great. Welcome to the show. Thank you. You look stunning. how are you? Hello, how are you guys? Welcome to the show. Thank you. You look stunning, what are you doing? Girl, I did my own makeup. You did? Trying to make money.

See, we respect that, yeah. I feel like, how many housewives do you feel like do their own glam before a show? I'm very impressed because I feel like housewives maybe are the most in demand of glam. Yeah, but it's so early. I didn't have anyone to call. We're in Miami right now.

Hence, we're at the faena, little background, bedroom set. Well, you look stunning. We would have never known. How you are enjoying your rookie season on the cast of Real Housewives of Atlanta? Is it everything you imagined or? No, it's not. It's not and they say you get upset three times

when it happens, when you see it and then at the reunion. So I'm on my second time getting upset about what I'm seeing. But overall, I feel like we're doing okay. Okay, well, last night's episode was definitely Angela heavy in the best possible way. We really enjoyed it. But what did you think about what you saw?

Yeah, you kind of referred to it was a little bit upsetting. Was it just being triggered and brought back to that moment? What did you find that was maybe the most upsetting for you? I feel like a lot of it was, you know, unnecessary. I didn't feel like we had to get that far, but as I'm watching it back, I see why it was necessary. You know, I was like,

oh, you've been talking about me this whole time in relation to one of the castmates when I thought we were friends, when I thought we had moved on, but clearly that wasn't the case. So once it got, you know, once it hit a head, I was just like, you know what, let me nail this head all the way in or so it don't come back out. Don't grow hairs, don't sprout nothing.

I want to see remnants of you again. Tired of. Was it frustrating for you to kind of see like with the with the Portia and Charles accusations her deny it to you and then in her confessionals admit to it No, I didn't think she would you know admit to it Her say because she had the opportunity to admit to it when I went downstairs That night. Yeah, you know that and that was the perfect time to say hey, I did say it You know, so I didn't wait. say, hey, I did say it, you know?

So I didn't wait. I went directly to the source when I heard it and just to see what she meant, you know, what she said, why she said what she said. And you still haven't really gotten an answer. No, I know she said it. She said she said it. She said she said it.

I think we're beyond her saying it. Okay. It's just a matter of, you know, why would you say something like that? Well, Angela, I've been a big fan of your husband for a long time. I mean, shoot, like, since he was rocking and rolling with the Knicks, been a big fan.

But what does he think about this whole Housewives experience? Is he been as triggered as you have? Is he going through the three stages alongside with you or is he kind of checked out? Well, he initially was checked out. You can see that on screen. He's like, I don't care, whatever, whatever.

He initially just, but now he has clasped in. He was like, they don't even know me. Why are they saying this about me? So he is fully immersed in this experience. And I need him, you know, I need him with me because it's like 20 versus one right now. Yeah, it was that, that the Cynthia Bailey barbecue was the Bailey. I had a ball since they put on a great barbecue. The food was good. I just had to do a little housekeeping, but I had a ball. We had a good. I just had to do a little housekeeping,

but I had them all. We had them all. I really respected the barbecue sauce and the pitcher. Yeah. Like very easy distribution. Cause usually, you know, you have to, the spoon and you're there in line and it's like scoop, scoop, you know,

you're holding the line up. You could just pour it. It's very, I really respect that. Cynthia always has a great idea about how to make something work. Speaking of food, why won't Charles eat your food? Nick won't eat my food either, so it's okay. You know what? I think I'm a very good cook.

He's just so particular, but let me be clear. I'm not trying to wrestle him out of the kitchen. By all means, if you want to cook, my kids don't even eat it. They don't eat your food or they don't eat Charles's food? They don't eat my food. Oh no. We have the same thing going on in our household too. Who cooks? Who does the cooking? Him.

I cook. He's very particular. Yeah. This is the right way to cook and then there cooking? Him. I cook. He's very particular, yeah. This is the right way to cook and then there's the wrong way to cook. That's all. And there's the easy way to let you cook. Yes, I will step out of the kitchen.

I enjoy cooking. I enjoy doing it. I really do. I feel at home in the kitchen. So I'm not complaining at all. I imagine Charles feels the same way. I imagine he enjoys being in there. He prefers me to get out of the kitchen

and I adore that. I love, I get mad when I have to cook. Like when he travels, I'm like, wait, so what are we gonna eat? Me too. I'm like, oh God, I gotta order something. Yeah. One thing I'm kind of always astounded by

and fascinated by this show, it's why when Nell and I get approached about ever talking about being on these types of shows, I'm like no fuck, no way. Because the way cast just platforms the dirtiest and nastiest of rumors about people as part of getting the drama, which can be very damaging to real relationships.

So how did you feel about Portia just doing that to you? Brit initially is the one who threw it out. Who threw out the Wendy Williams story. You know what, that story keeps circulating, but I will say, I don't know if that story is not. I think the story is the reason I was asked the way. Because I feel like it just gives so much drama. But that's not the case.

Charles did not have a side baby. We can clear that. His son is of age. I don't know if it's time for me to tell his true age, but I initially said it. Wendy Williams and I had a conversation that just went left. I gave her some unsolicited advice. You know, are you able to share what that advice was? I told her, you know, maybe she should stay with her husband. And I know he had a baby on her, but I just thought I was the biggest Wendy, Wendy fan. And I felt like now's my chance. I saw her in a private event and I just went up to her. If Charles knew I did this ahead of time, he would have just kicked me out the party.

Because me and my big mouth, you know, so I was like, now's my time. I snuck over to her and I was just like, Wendy, you know, it's just a baby. And she went off. That's why I'm like, Wendy, you know, it's just a baby. And she went off. That's why I'm like, the fans are defending Wendy. Wendy went off on me herself. So it wasn't like Wendy was just sitting there.

She was like, you know, get the F away from me. And she was just like, has that ever happened to you? Oh, Wendy went off and she had her manager right by her. And I'm like. What did you say? Just that it's just a baby. And I felt like, look, I'm sorry. I have not lived this day down in my life.

This is one of my worst moments because now I'm thinking back. I'm like, that was Wendy Williams. Who the heck do you think you are to give her unsolicited advice? What was Charles' reaction when you told him you did that? Well, he didn't know. He only got the reaction of me just being just, oh my God, Wendy just cussed me out.

Angela, I just want to say, first of all, thank you for sharing that story. Second of all, we all have a story in our life about just like, I don't know, just kind of being out of body and doing something where we were like, what the fuck was that? But walking up to Wendy Williams and saying it's just a baby was a crazy thing to say. And they grew legs.

Then I'm sitting at home eating my bonbons and she she's on her show. Like I saw Charles and I'm just flabbergasted because here I am just a regular civilian and my name is splashed on her show and you know what she did what I would have done too like if you're bold enough to say this to me I'm gonna put some juice on it I'm gonna put some sauce on it I'm gonna make it juicy because you done lost your mind. And that's what Wendy did. So she gave me what I deserved.

She added that I said he had a baby on me. It was not Charles Oakley. No, it was my oldest daughter's father who, you know. Is that kind of why whenever Brit brought it up at Cynthia's party that you were kind of like, what, like you kind of didn't really have this like, oh my god. You better have receipts. Yeah.

Yeah. Wear your receipts, because we're not going to bring rumors to the table, because there's enough to go around for everybody. Yeah. So I was just like, you better have receipts. And of course, the only receipt they're going to pull up is the Wendy Williams video.

Watching that scene back, did you regret anything you said or do you stand by everything you said to Brit? It took me too long to get to that point to have a regret. I was slow walking it. Now I don't have a regret. I'm sorry. I took my time with you. I thought we were friends in Nashville.

I thought we were friends when we saw each other and even Marcus I thought we had moved forward just based on me asking you a simple question With regards to her license, I thought we can move past it But apparently we didn't and so I was like now and I apologize to her 15 times. Yeah, I was tired and that was the result of just saying, you know what, it is what it is. That mouth got miles on it. Wretch marks around the lips.

Hey, I'm just throwing rocks and you get hit holla. Angela, do you ever practice your zingers, your one liners as a new housewife? Because like we've heard different things that like some housewives are just like that witty, other housewives we've heard rumors like they hire comedy writers or writers that come up with lines for shows. Are you just naturally like that or do you have to like

think about it, you know, going into some moments where you know there's gonna be some drama? You don't have time to think about it. Like I didn't know she was going to invite me to her mouth. You know what I mean? Like why would, that's what all of the content is. Like, why would you invite me to your mouth when she said, read the words that are coming?

What? Your mouth, let's talk about it. No, you, you don't have time to really, because you're, you're a murk. Like you're in it. And no, I've heard that as well that some you know that people have writers and our family is just naturally sarcastic naturally and me and charles

go at it all day what are your thoughts on kelly you know what i will say after this episode i was a little disappointed in kelly because i just i just want her to plant her flag and just be like, this is what it is. And sometimes I feel like she kind of, you know, goes wherever the wind blows, but I just didn't have an ally. And I was, you know, looking around like, Oh, so it's all of y'all. Did you kind of feel like Drew left you hanging? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause there was that little clip of her being like, I'm not going over there. I'm staying over here. And then I look back, I'm like, where were you? You know, I don't that, you know, we didn't see that. But like, where are you? And then I was like, in Nashville, I kind of felt like, where are you? You know? Yeah. And then again, I feel like Drew could only assist me. Her help would have been minimal because I felt like I got this. Drew, sit down.

I got this. You have had her back for, you know? So it's like, yeah, where was she when you needed her? Yeah, she was not around. But I don't think her not being around affected much with the outcome because has she been around or whatever they're saying, you know, you would have gotten what you got. Have you seen Kelly's dog?

I have. What are your thoughts on her spending $1,000 a month on coloring this dog? I mean, that's her baby and she treats her dog like her baby, like baby. And so, you know, she spoils her dog and I think that makes her feel good. I mean, if, you know, like you can't spoil a dog, right? Like too much, like, you know, with River, we're always like, okay, well, you know, we, you know, it's exciting to be able to give your kid things

and have them see that, you see that excitement on their face, but at some point you have to pull it back out of fear that they might turn into something. But with a dog, you get to feel good all day long. Her dog's glam is better than mine. Can you see her dog with lashes? It's crazy. Her dog is beat. So I think her dog may be used to a little, you know.

Dogs know, dogs know when they're supposed to be glamorous. I think Kelly's dog knows. Well, Angela, it's not just your first season. It's gonna be your first reunion as well. And just like you said, like there's filming the season and watching it, but the reunion is a whole nother beast. Going into it, who in your cast do you want to address the most

or get to the bottom of anything? And is there also someone in your cast that you're worried that might be coming for you? I think all of them are gonna come for me. I don't feel like I have any allies. I hope that I'm wrong, with the exception of Drew. I hope that I'm wrong. I just, I don't see any inroads to saying, hey, Angela may have been right. Like, I don't see any inroads to support.

And so I don't know where that, if that's going to show up. However, I only have my intentions on clearing up some things that happen at the finale. And that happens with Phaedra when she comes. So they can come for me. I'll just be plopping and blah, blah, blah, blah. Because you and Portia ended on a good note at Cynthia's party. So something else happens in the second half of the season. I feel like she tagged in hell.

OK. That's just what it is. Do you feel like it's a little bit of rookie hazing? Well, it's more than one rookie. You know what I mean? Like, why do I need all the hazing? It's more than one rookie. I was, I thought I was walking into a group of, I don't know, I guess I thought we was

going to have tea and go shopping and talk about our children, talk about our marriages and our businesses. But no. So you see me slow walking and learning at the same time, like, oh, this is what we're doing. I thought it took me a while to catch up, but once I found out what we were doing, I was ready. Okay. So it's safe to say that despite it not being

what you expected and it being a little tougher, no regrets, and if they'll ask you, you'll come back for season two? We have seven more episodes to go. Let's see what happens in these episodes. Are Kelly and Britt gonna beef at all? Because we see a little something in the trailer. Their beef was so good.

It was so funny. I was just three, four, like, I love it. Give me more. Whose side were you on? And I'm not just, you know, it was just good to me. I mean, enough of me. Let's talk about Kelly and Britt. So they, it surprised me, but I will say it was very entertaining.

Did you, were you on a side, Britt or Kelly's? Of course I was on a side, Brett or Kelly's? Of course I was on a side. Okay. Kelly, you did so wrong. Kelly, I love you. Last question before we let you go, Angela. I'll ask Cynthia when I see her next, but I didn't know prophets were a thing.

I thought that was something like you read in a Bible. Or is that the same as like a psychic or a tarot card reader? Like what's, did you believe in that stuff? No, I mean, no, no, no. I mean, do you guys remember Ms. Cleo or is that before your time? I can't, no, that rings a bell. She was like a tarot card reader who a car reader who could tell you her future

and it was just like this big scam. But I won't talk about the, you know, because Cynthia adores her. But for me, I'm like, okay, right. You're telling me to be sexy for my husband. Okay, like what else we have? What about these bills? Can we talk about these bills?

Can we talk about these, like Can we talk about stuff that matters? I forgot who she told, but she was like, you just need to slow down. Shamia. I think. Slow down? She was like, you need to just, yeah, yeah. It was like. It's your year to make money and sometimes doing nothing is doing something.

And it's like, okay. I don't know. It's just like. Speaking of Shamia, why did you text her after Nashville? I was pissed. So you guys, you don't play with your spouse, right? I don't care who he is, what he's done. But I thought I was walking into a circle.

Okay, I see some married women, so we're gonna align on that. You don't have to like me, you can talk about me, but on our house, we're gonna align and we're gonna stay fine. So when I saw that Shemeah just did not stand up to Portia in that moment, I was like, not you. You know what I mean?

Like, come on, I thought we had something. And she explained that she doesn't take on Portia's beat and she allows, which is not true, but she allows, you know, she allowed Portia to kiki and laugh, but you don't play about, that's just something I take serious. I don't play about my house, my kids.

Yeah. And so to see other women like that, even in the housewives sphere is, you know, it's different. I respect that. What did your text really say to Shamiah? Cause they really made it out like, you know. Yeah, it was like, big, big, and you know what, big, big. And then it was like, fast forward, da, da, da, da.

It was the longest message ever. It was laced with just disappointment. And it was more so just letting her know. And I thought it would reach her in a way that it did not reach her. It did not land. She did not care. Because I've never seen women,

especially of a certain age, just vie for the attention of one woman. And it was an audition, I'm sorry. It was just horses standing and all of these women in her face just dragging me. And I'm like, well, where's the individuality? Where's the independence? Where is the, I don't know.

I just didn't see. Who on the cast has disappointed you the most? Her. Yeah. Her. I walked in with high hopes for her and I hate to give, you know, put high hopes or anything on anyone.

But I'm like, okay, we're married, boom. We gotta protect our house, boom. And we're tourists, you know, zodiac thing. And that didn't happen. And so, once I saw Shamiah for what she was in that moment, I just like, you know what, we got, let's play our game. Well, Angela, it's been awesome to talk with you. Thanks for answering all our questions,

sharing your stories. Good luck the rest of the way. We're to talk with you. Thanks for answering all our questions, sharing your stories. Good luck the rest away. We're definitely rooting for you. Really enjoying you so far. So thank you again and enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you. Bye you guys. Bye.

She's the best. What a queen. All of the Atlanta housewives are just like so iconic. Even though it's her first season, I feel like she's iconic. Oh, she's great. Yeah, unafraid, just she showed up today. Angela's also so iconic in Nashville

when she filmed the girls and then she played back the tape and you literally hear nothing. And she's like, it clearly happened. You're like, ah. Yeah, she's like, and I recorded him and here's the proof and he's like. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, listen, it's single moms out there. Like you deserve all of the praise. It is incredibly hard to, I mean,

and I can't even imagine with more children, but like it's hard. And I guess I realized how much you do. Oh, really? Thanks, that's all I was gonna say. That wasn't even a setup, I wasn't expecting it. Oh, well, you do, yeah, you do a lot. And it's hard when you like don't have anyone else to be like,

hey, can you take her for a moment so I can shower? It was like me and River were taking a shower together. We're going to bed at the same time. Do you think, I mean, both tough situations, do you think it'd be tougher single moms or deadbeat, like in a marriage with deadbeat dads, just like absolutely no help? Definitely deadbeat dads, just like absolutely no help. Definitely deadbeat dads,

because then you gotta like take care of them as well. And it's like, you know, like then they also want like attention from you or like sex from you. And it's like, you don't even, yeah, definitely deadbeat dad. But I will say when Nick got home, he was like, all right, I'm gonna go to the grocery store. And I was like, okay, well you take River. And he was like, well, how would I grocery shop

and take River? I'm like, bitch, I was just doing this for five fucking days. I didn't say how. You did. You were like, and how would I take her to the grocery store and grocery shop? But like, so you- You put her in the buggy and you walk around the store.

Fair, and I might've said that, but also I was partly just like, well, you were home and I'm home and it just seems unnecessary. Also, you guys have to understand that River, we might be bonding more and more every day and I did feel like my daughter missed me, but the way River loves Natalie

is honestly special and awesome and it's really something. And it's just like, I get a fraction of like, I just like, hey, Dada, like just the fact that like my daughter knows my name and like refers to me is like pretty great. It's like, it's pretty exciting as a dad. But like she freaks out.

Like if she's not with her mom for 10 minutes and then her mom pops around the corner, River is just like, ah! It's really the best. So I was just a little nervous, you know, because honestly, sometimes when, you know, most of the time when we drive with River, well, you're usually driving and I'm usually in back, like keeping River preoccupied. So like she wasn't going to be preoccupied, but she was well behaved. She was great. We

played, River's really into music. I don't, maybe that's another thing where I feel like, I've told Natalie several times, I feel like River has like a music bone of some kind. She likes to dance, she just enjoys music. Someone in the bathroom at the airport, she was changing River's diaper and she was just kinda like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah was like, okay, period. No, but she really seems into it. So anyways, I went on Spotify and played like the greatest driving hits of all time,

which started with some Fleawood Mac. And we had a nice little two 10 minute car rides and went to a little grocery shopping. When Nellie asked, she was just like, I've been with her for three days. And I was like, that's a good point. So we went and had a good day. So it was a moment for us.

We made a good team. People who are still figuring out if they can be a good team with babies are Kyle and Amanda. I was surprised by how that ended. I mean, that was a real conversation. It was really interesting to see and I get both of their answers, but I am curious. I wonder how much of that was like them willing

to have that conversation for like TV purposes or like is that something that she, like to drop that bomb three years into a marriage and to say you've been thinking about it for a year is, it's a lot to process. Like it's, there's a little bit of like you didn't tell me, why didn't you tell me? And then it's, there's some sensitivity bit of like you didn't tell me, why didn't you tell me? And then there's some sensitivity in that conversation.

She makes a good point of being like, you're not bringing up a kid every day and you're still coming home at 5 a.m. hammered and you're showing zero signs of ready to not doing that stuff. That's a great point. And it kind of like I said, watching the past two weeks of Summer House,

I had this kind of epiphany for all the people who listen to Ask Nick and we talk about situationships and dating and dating culture. When the Swartz, and then I love Swartz, he's a great guy, but when Swartz and Kyle are talking about being good dads, and I'm sure, yeah, they seem like good people and Swartz has a great heart.

But like and again, maybe this is his TV. But like they, the boyishness of like the way these guys, like Jesse specifically with Lexi, how entitled they are to make sure they have fun at a party or on a Saturday night and how like to ask them to give that up, they kind of stomp their feet and throw a little bit of a fit about,

well, I'm just trying to have fun. And it made me think about, listen, if you're out there, ladies, or I'd say this to anyone, I guess, but I think it's more, if you're in your mid-20s, early-30s, and you're dating someone and you're in a situationship, like ask yourself, are these serious people?

He's like, you know, Jesse and, I've never met Jesse, I've met West, he's funny, he's likable, he's affable, but like he is, he's kind of an unserious guy right now. So much of his life is unserious, you know, like Jesse, it's like the way they live their life is a bit unserious. Like they kind of act like adult things are just kind of like a waste of their time.

And if you're out there and you're like dating someone and like their lifestyle is very unserious, like they're not gonna wanna date you, especially if you're in a situationship. Like think about it,, defining a relationship, that's a serious conversation, being a boyfriend. There's some serious news to it, but these are a bunch of guys who just don't,

who gets on a fucking trampoline in the middle of the night to watch Zootopia on a laptop with four of your bros? That's just a very unserious thing. I mean, I guess they're fun and all, but that's just a very unserious thing. I guess they're fun and all, but that's not, none of, I guess Kyle is married, but these are people who just,

they don't wanna have the responsibility of being a partner or a dad, you know what I'm saying? It's just too much for them. And if you're dating someone who's just unserious about being an adult, they're just not gonna, I wouldn't date them. No, I mean, yeah, Jesse caring more about

having fun at the party than checking in on Lexi just proves. Wes seems like at least two or three years away from maybe being in a relationship. Nothing about his lifestyle says, I want someone saying, Let's go to bed. Yeah, can we do something else? Yeah, let's, I wanna do this, I wanna do that.

Can you not do this so we can do that? But I will say, I think like the one thing that I would encourage for like a healthy relationship for any two people is like to go to bed at the same time. Like I think that's so important for us. I guess I just take that for granted. Yeah, right. Like I think that's so important for us. It's like- You can say to take that for granted. Yeah, right?

Like I thought about it while you were away of like I get in the bed and like you're right there. It's not like you're staying out in the living room and like watching a movie on your own or like doing like playing video games or like doing, like we get in the bed at the same time. I don't think there's ever a night that we went to bed. Separately, right?

Ever in the five years we've been together. We've never like. I've never been like, yeah, I'm just gonna stay up and watch a movie. It's crazy, and people do that. And I think that like causes, like, and I think it causes disconnection. What about you guys?

Not to put you on the spot, but like, I'm sure we're the exception in terms of every night, but how often do you guys go to bed at the same time? Assuming you're in the same house, assuming like, obviously you're both with partners who travel a lot. We're usually in bed like by nine, 9.30-ish.

And if I am like, I'll feed Louie and then come into bed. If I'm coming to bed and Danny's already asleep, I'm pissed. Yeah, yeah. Like so mad. So valid. I'm just like, how dare you go to sleep before I get into bed. No, that's so mad. So valid. I'm just like, how dare you go to sleep before I get into bed. No, that's so valid.

So yeah, I agree. But I can go to bed before him. That's allowed. Yes, of course. No, no, there's a, well one day we should make a list of all the things that you ladies like, assume doesn't count for you.

It's a long list. Sierra, what about you? No, we never go to sleep at the same time. It's a long list. Sierra, what about you? No, we never go to sleep at the same time. He's more of a night owl and I am asleep on the couch. If I watch something with him starting at 8.30, I wake up at 9.30 pissed off on the couch and like trudged to bed.

Well, you guys have been together for how long? So you guys are clearly exceptions to our rule. So we can go fuck ourselves. Sorry. No, I just don't want to, I don't want to be like calling you and Connor out. Like, well, fuck that relationship. I mean, people have different things

that work for their relationship. I'm just saying if you're feeling a disconnection in your relationship and y'all do that, maybe try going to bed together. Everyone does definitely do your thing, but you don't have the relationship that we have if you don't do it. You know what my favorite-

In the same way, Sarah. We're allowed to do it, but you're not allowed to do it thing is? What? Is mess. Like my mess is okay, but if Danny leaves a sock on the floor or anything, nope, not allowed, but my mess is okay.

I will say though because Nally is a fairly messy people we're worse person we're similar in that regard sorry if that offends you neither of us are filthy but we're both a little messy but Nally's not Nally's pretty good in that in that very specific department about not being a hypocrite. Weird. Meaning she just doesn't get upset with you for your mess? I just don't feel like she nags at me about my mess. And I do leave a trail.

I get pissed at Connor because he cooks. He cooks in our house for us, but he is such a messy cook that you can literally see all of the ingredients, what went into it, where he did what. And that drives me crazy, but it's also like hypocritical because I don't do the dishes either, cause I don't cook. So I'm like, I can't really say anything,

but I walk into the kitchen and I'm like, how did you do this? Like I have to ask a question. That's something I really need to work on. Actually, Natalie, I need, for the longest time, I didn't wear an apron and Natalie's mom got me one for, I think, my Christmas or something, whatever, and I was like, wow, this is genius.

Because I have so many fucking, I have so many oil stains on like every fucking shirt. There's an oil stain on this shirt. It's like on every fucking shirt. It's really, and it never dawned on me that I could wear an apron. And I need to cook way more efficiently and cleaner. I do.

I will say I really appreciate with Natalie is that like we have a handful of individual bad habits. For example, Natalie. I don't think we need examples. This, if I don't take this, this is a half-drinking matcha. This will sit here for weeks, weeks. Yes, the collection of cups. Oh my God, there's just half-drinking cups everywhere,

but every time I point it out, she'll, I don't know, she'll bring up one of my several bad habits, and then we're both kind of like, touche, and then we kind of- All right, there. That's one of the worst things ever, is being called out on like something that you do. And then it's just like, fuck, you're right.

I honestly kind of find it helpful because I know I do that shit. And then I will get irritated at Natalie for the cups. And then when she brings it up, I'm like, okay, well, I probably should be less irritated about the cups. Like last night in bed, I said something about how, I'm like, Nick makes something so well. And he was like, I'm gonna be honest,

you gotta learn like how to cook right. Like you've got it. And I was like, whoa, first of all, I'm like, Nick makes something so well. And he was like, I'm going to be honest, you got to learn like how to cook right. Like you've got it. And I was like, Whoa, first of all, I just said- Shut the fuck up. I was with your daughter for three days. Four days without you and survived. We had three meals a day.

Who do you think cooked them? Me. Who do you think ate well? Us. I was like, we're good buddy. I shut the fuck up. I shut the fuck up. Yeah.

Not the time. I mean, I- It was crazy. It came out of left field. I was like, holy fuck. Like, okay. I put River to bed and when I got, like Natalie was like asleep on the chair, like as if she passed out just like seconds later. You were, you were clearly exhausted. Yeah.

She doesn't stop. Anything else we have to talk about from Summerhouse? I do. Sierra and I were talking about this earlier about Summerhouse, just about how like it kind of is starting to feel like two completely different shows. Say more. Like you have Lindsay and Carl and Kyle and Amanda and Paige, and it just feels like their problems and what they're dealing with is like more adult.

And then you have Lexi and Jesse and West and it's like more of that like young 20s drama. And it really all- Well, I wouldn't say just young 20s, Jesse's in his late 20s, early 30s. But I will say, yeah, the dating drama, less established, haven't figured it out yet, totally, yeah. And when it really- Seeing Kyle- Yeah, the dating drama, less established, haven't figured it out yet, totally, yeah.

And when it really- Seeing Kyle- Yeah, seeing Kyle being in the kitchen and like Lexi and Jessie are having this public argument. And normally Kyle would be like, "'Fuck yeah, we're in a public fight going on here, "'like I'm living for this.'" And he's just sitting there so bored and he's like,

"'Do you guys have to be doing this in public? "'Can you go get a room? Yeah, that was kind of weird that he tried to shut that down. It just made me feel like these are two different shows now. They couldn't care less about Lexi and Jessie's drama. It's like, I'm 42 and I wanna have a kid and I don't know if Amanda wants one.

And you guys have been together for less than a month and you're fighting. Yeah, it's like, I don't think we'll ever see Paige making out with someone on this show again or hooking up, we're past that with Paige, she's not doing that anymore. She's packing to-go home outfits. As she should.

Yeah. Oh my God, I love that. That's where her mental energy is going as to like looking like a boss queen as she like leaves the weekend of debauchery. But that's kind of like what I thought of like, you know, oh, how funny was it that like she like made out with Carl in the pantry and like whatever. And then it's like, that will never have,

like we'll never see that from Paige again. And it's just because like that's not who she is. Like she's not that version of herself anymore. And I think, yeah, we need a, not a revamp of Summerhouse, but maybe just, yeah, making it, taking the older cast and giving them a new show and making Summerhouse the younger craziness where we do get more of that party house.

Does Kyle have any kind of producer credit? We all kind of infer that Kyle started this, but how much, if any, control does he have over Summer House? Is it his? Can they fire him? I mean, Lindsay has said that her, Carl, and Kyle created the show so that they know,

they set the standards, but I don't think they have a producer credit. Yeah, he is not a producer on the show. To be honest, like they set the standards, but I don't think they have a producer credit. Yeah, he is not a producer on the show. Well, to be honest, I'm more invested in their drama. Like I know that it's in Kyle, Amanda, Oh, I'm more invested in Jessie and Lexi for sure. Really? But that's why we're like, we kind of need two shows.

I think you're right though, because I mean, Lindsay Hubbard also, she's picture of a Jessel this weekend too. So I think we know there's like a shakeup with Summer House coming. I just want, yeah, the older people, I will follow Paige doing her Amazon Live. I'll follow Amanda doing her bathing suit line

and then coming home to dealing with her DJ boyfriend in her apartment. Like I would rather see that than, I personally like, I'm not really invested. But also the point of bringing Jessi and Wes in last season, I think was to like, Shake it up. Make it young. I honestly feel like at this point for Paige,

I feel like going on this show is like a net negative. I don't feel like it's helping her career outside of Summerhouse. I mean, she's thriving, you know, like, you know, her business partner, essentially, I don't, I mean, like Hannah Berner, they're both thriving equally. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not like, you know, Hannah hasn't, I mean, like Hannah Berner, they're both thriving equally, like, you know what I'm saying? It's not like Hannah hasn't been on Summer House.

I just don't feel like Paige needs it at this point. I don't know if it's really helping her at this point, other than just being kind of a headache to have to film, watch it back, give people who are not you the control of your edit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm Paige, I don't know what she's making or what they're paying her,

so maybe it's just like a really nice paycheck that's like tough to just let go. But I feel like she doesn't need it. She's a big part of Summer House though. I was gonna say yeah. I'm sure they're paying her a good amount. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I mean, she probably has more value to them

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That was great. What'd you think? How'd I do? You're pretty talented. Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. You got some music chops. I try. Yeah.

Every once in a while. Yeah. How was Stagecoach for you? It was something. It was fun. It was a long weekend. Luckily I played on Friday, so I wasn't too beat by the time Showtime hit,

but it was a fun weekend. We did a lot of partying for sure. It was a full crowd. And you were at what, like five o'clock? Four, five, something like that. I feel like a lot of people usually don't get to the concert until later, but I knew I wanted to see you.

I knew that we needed to be there at prime three o'clock to get a good spot. It was a full- It felt good. People showed up for Tucker. People showed up for Tucker. Yeah. Someone's gotta- As someone who is a brunette, there's no recognition for us.

You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of like, everyone loves blondondes we get it yeah we're over it we got a recognition all you really had was and you don't even have brown like that my brown eyed girl what's that song yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I guess any girl's brown eyes was like this is my song But which they also felt safe. Yeah. So thank you for the representation. Time has passed. Truly.

Have you felt like there's been a wave of like brunettes who are flocking to you now because they feel like you want them? I don't know about flocking, but like definitely the DMs are pretty pretty swarmed with some brunettes. Do you read DMs? Do you respond to DMs? Uh, not often.

I mean it's how I met my wife. Really? I did. I slid into his DMs? Do you respond to DMs? Uh, not often. Yeah. I mean, it's how I met my wife. Really? I did. I slid into his DMs. Really? I mean, I check him every once in a while, but... You might be interested. I'm just saying. This last weekend, I was pretty tuned up on like Saturday night or something like that, and somebody came to the house, I threw a party at the house, and somebody goes, dude, Sydney Sweeney's here this weekend.

I go, oh, I'm DMing her. I was pretty confident. But she's blonde this weekend. I go, oh, I'm DMing her. I was pretty confident. But she's blonde. Yeah. So which one is it? No comment. I didn't get a DM back, but I'll make it clear.

What was the message? Hi, Sydney. That's it? That's it. I was chuckling too. I was like, huh? Honestly, we've come to the conclusion that like, it doesn't have to be clever.

And I think a lot of people feel like, I think it depends what direction the DMS are going. What do you mean? Well, when you DM me, yeah, I don't, you just had to say hi. What did you say? I said, you're unreal. I don't know. And it worked.

Yeah. I looked at her pictures and I was like, yeah, absolutely. For sure. You are too. I'm in. But yeah, I think the ladies are a little more cautiously, they dig a little deeper. A little bit, yeah.

And you seem like a funny, charming, talented guy. Ladies are bold, man. Yeah. Especially in the DM world, they're bold. They say some wild things sometimes. Oh yeah. I'm like, all right. You ever felt violated by reading one?

Yeah, a couple of times. Have you ever gotten like nudes in the DMs? No, I don't have it so like people can send me pictures and stuff like that. I filter all that out. Do not send nude. That's not really my forte. No.

I'm not interested in nudes. He got real serious. He did, he got really serious. I'm a man of God. He's, yeah. I try to stay straight. Was there a brunette that kind of fucked you up a little bit and that's why you?

No, it's a blonde that fucked him up and that's why now he's onto brunettes. Oh. Because he wants nothing that reminds him of the blondes. That's right. And then Sydney. She shows up, he's like, oh, I'm back. And then I got drunk and heard Sydney Sweeney

was in the same town. So I was like, all right. Yeah, yeah. Forgot all about it. I have a guilty pleasure and that is watching TikTok lives. And I don't like ever join them, right? Like I'll just watch them. So maybe that's like cheating

because I'm not giving them like, I don't like tap in and like give them likes or whatever. I don't know, but I just like to watch them. And you used to come up on my TikTok live algorithm. Quite a lot. And I think it was before you had released any music. Like this was like, or maybe you had released some, nothing had popped yet, but like I thought you were just

this random guy who would like sing a little bit while like cooking. Yeah, I did that quite a bit. And then what was your, was 321 your first, what was your, no, no, no. Wine and whiskey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like last February.

Yes, yes, wine and whiskey. And I was like singing to it on the radio. And I was like, I knew every word. I like loved the song. And then I don't know if I like saw a picture or what, but I'm like, is this the fucking TikTok guy? That's that dude. I'm like, what is he doing here?

That's that idiot that sits in his kitchen. He actually can't, like most people, you know, will just like sing on TikTok, but like you have made, you're like famous, you're real. And it was like a crazy correlation. Every once in a while now, they will show me the people she's watching on TikTok lives. And I never thought any of them would make it.

She didn't show me you, but I gotta say. She didn't get me included. She did not show me, you're a handsome fellow. You know, but like, you know, there's some interesting people on there. It was such a nice surprise to be like, oh my God, no. One of my people made it. My people have made it, yes, there you are.

I know this guy. There you are. Is that kind of how your success started off TikTok? Yeah, kind of. So, I mean, I was writing songs in Nashville, or not, you know, still, but for like three or four years before dropping my first song.

And, you know, we finally got to the point where, we're like, hey, let's start teasing some of these things on TikTok, see what happens, and then wine and whiskey happen, and then wine and missing you happen, and then the rest is history for me. It's honestly been like one after the other, I feel like you haven't really hit a dull moment.

I hope not. I mean, I mean. I hope I don't get there. I'm having too much fun. Yeah, well of course. Yeah, of course, of course. What is like your life looking like right now? Crazy.

I mean, I'm in a new city every day. Sometimes even a new state every day. Playing shows for sold out crowds. Playing stagecoach. That was sick. Just dropped my first album. That's insane. Yeah, I mean, my life has changed more than I ever thought

it could in the last year. It's been, yeah. Is it more like just absolutely surreal, like pinch me? Or is there a little bit of like, you know, I fucking knew this day would come. I know. You know, like. Yeah, it's definitely pinched me. You know, I feel knew this day would come. I know. Like. Yeah, it's definitely pinched me.

You know, I feel like everything was happening so fast in the last like, you know, year and couple months that I didn't really have a chance to like sit down for the first six months and realize what was going on. I was just so go, go, go. But lately it's been pretty surreal. Like I feel like I'm waking up every day and be like, is this really happening? You know? How was playing for Jimmy Kimmel Live? It was sick.

It was quick. Yeah, it was a lot of prep time for like a two and a half minute song. But I thought we sounded pretty decent. It was fun. Is it just like another check the box of cool things? What is maybe the coolest thing you've done where it was like you really couldn't believe,

like, holy shit, I'm here? Oh gosh, there's been a couple. Late Night, playing Late Night was definitely one of those bucket list items that I checked off last night. I don't know, playing the Opry, that was pretty cool. Stagecoach, Red Rocks, my first number one at the top of the year. That was sick.

Released my first album over the weekend. That was pretty intense. Everything. Everything great is happening, I don't know. All of it. When the album comes out, it comes out at midnight, I would imagine, right? Yeah, it depends on where you're at.

So like on the East Coast, it'll come out at midnight. So here it was like nine or 10. Did you, where were you when the album came out? I was playing a show in Sacramento and we did a whole thing before the show because we were hitting stage at 9.15 and then the album drop was at nine. And so I hopped up on stage, I was like,

hey, this is gonna be a little different show tonight. Usually I don't come out until that first beat drops. But I prayed over the crowd. We were opening a new venue and, um, you know, so it was the first show of the venue and it was like opening night. And then I was drawing my album that night. So I prayed over the venue, I prayed over the crowd, I prayed over the album. You know, the guys up there with me and my whole team was up there and some of

my family and my niece and my mom. And, you know, it was a special moment. So we counted down from 10 and then the album dropped and then I walked off and we rocked out on stage. It was fun. It was sick. You're on tour right now with who? Yourself?

I'm doing a headline right now. You are? Yeah, we got our last weekend this weekend in Texas. Damn. That's crazy as fuck. What was like that call like, like your headline in your own tour? Pretty nuts.

So I did my first, so we're on Waves on a Sunset part two, essentially. And the part one was last fall. And I didn't really know what to expect, if I'm being honest. Because I had opened up for a couple of people, over the summer and like Cameron Marlowe, Luke Bryan, a couple of Jordan Davis for a one-off.

A couple of different people. And I'm like, hey, I think it's time to headline. I was like, all right. So I didn't know what to expect. And then I went, I showed up to the shows and started playing and it was nuts, dude. Like the crowd is, you're like progressively getting crazier and crazier.

But even back then it was, it was insane. What do you look at when you're on stage? The, sometimes the back wall. If I'm trying to focus, sometimes a cute girl up front. Oh, you're scouting? Have you ever, have you ever met someone in the audience? No, not really. No?

We don't really do that. You don't like see someone and then tell like a manager, like, hey, the like blonde in like the front. They point them out. That's great. No, I don't think I've ever done that, if I'm being honest. I feel like you're missing out. Yeah, I feel like you're like missing out

on like your like rock star power of like being able to pull someone from. Oh, that's an abuse of power. I would never do that. They would love it. It would make their life. It says here, happy to talk and chat about all things dating. Do you like talking about dating?

Not really, but I'm down. He didn't write that. He didn't write that. I didn't write that. I sold your team out, sorry guys. Yeah, let's do it, why not? What is your love life like? And non-existent, non-existent. I am so busy that I can't even fathom.

I was just talking to my tour manager last night over dinner and I was like, dude, I couldn't, because we were talking about, you know, I was asking him how his wife's doing, because we don't really get to talk like that too often. We're just so busy. I was asking how his wife's doing. And then I was like, dude, I couldn't even fathom

being on the road right now and doing everything that I'm doing with not a responsibility, but like, you know, a person that I have to take care of. It is a responsibility. It is. Yeah. I couldn't do that. Screw that. If I'm being honest. So maybe rephrase the question,

maybe it's like, how's your sex life? No. Banging. Non-existent. Okay. I'm too busy. Jesus is watching, Jesus is watching. Jesus is watching.

Are you like wanting to date someone in the same sphere as you, or are you wanting a normie? Are you wanting no one? Are you? A normie. I guess I'd be open to both. I'd be kind of skeptical.

There's, I don't know, I've been in a couple relationships where they're in it for the wrong reasons, so now it'd be even more tough, kind of weeding out who's good and who's bad. How did you get a sense of that, that you felt like that it wasn't like you, that they were like dating but more like. The idea.

Yeah, the idea of you. Taking opportunities. Okay. More often than they should, you know, like being opportunistic, you know, obviously I go do your own thing, have, you know, pop being opportunistic, you know, obviously I go do your own thing, have, you know, pop off, queen, you know, do your thing. But it's just a vibe that I got.

That gave you a negative feeling. It did. And then, you know, I lean super heavy on the people around me and, you know, we're always talking and, you know, my family, my friends and they, they wean out the bad ones before I can, you know, because when I love, I love hard.

And that's- Do you fall easy? Yeah, I guess sometimes. Men usually do. Yeah. Well, you didn't with me. Oh, gosh. That's so much.

Oh, shit, all right. You wanna get into it? That's not true. I mean, I should leave. No, it's okay. We do this all the time. You know what? We asked Riley Green this question and his brain exploded. What's your love languages?

What? Yeah, that was Riley Green's response. It was like the Chinese dragon. You don't know what love languages are? Scorpio. He said English. What's your love language? He's a Chinese dragon. You don't know what love languages are? Scorpio, Scorpio. Yeah, he was like, I think I'm a rat or something. He said English. What's your love language?

English? You don't know. Sometimes French. No, I'm just kidding. French. Uh-huh. It sounds kind of silly. It sounds like-

A horoscope made up. But it's like, it's something honestly you should learn about yourself. And it's like the idea, well one, it's how do you receive love? Like so what can someone, your girlfriend do for you that makes you go, ah they like me, this person cares about me, as opposed to like, and then like how do you show love? Like you know, how do you do that? So there's five categories. Okay, what are they? There's acts of service. So like you like, you know,

you like doing things for your partner. That's how I love others. Yeah. I'm a huge act. Like if I feel like I'm taking, yeah, I felt, if I feel like I'm taking care of you and your wellbeing, I feel pretty happy. Yeah. I'm like that. I'm like that. Then there's a, then there's physical touch. You want to be, you know, depends on the time of day. Yeah. Okay. I'm saying, they can get too close, right? What kind of mood did I wake up in? I don't know.

Yeah. It's like, I like to be touched, but it's smothered. You're not looking for someone to like want to be in your back pocket or be like crawl into your skin with you. Not necessarily. No. You're looking for like maybe when it's the right day, right time. Yeah.

Yeah. That seems normal. Like if it's just us, yeah, yeah, let's hang out. Then we got words of affirmation. So like, I love you, you know? Or you look handsome today, you know? I think that's how I like to be loved. Yeah, okay.

Like I'm really proud of you. You're like, wow, you're the best musician ever. Like I'm really cool. That's what I want. Well, I'm not, but like. But like, you know, imagine your partner thinking that and making you believe that, you know? I think that's a musician ever like I'm really cool. That's right. But like you know imagine your partner thinking that and make you believe that you know I think I think that's what I enjoy and then quality time. I think is okay gifts and quality time I'm quality time so like you like just actually hanging out with each other with each other. Yeah, I like that

Yeah, I don't like receiving gifts. I would rather give kids. They were similar We're similar acts of service hate gifts, but he likes to give them. No, I don't. That's what you just said. Yeah, yeah. You like to give them. Oh. That's what you just said. I don't, yeah.

Nick hates to give. He's like fuck Mother's Day. He's like fuck Mother's Day. I've got anxiety. It's just all it is is a problem. Might be a color book page that I worked on at breakfast, but it's a gift. At Cracker Barrel.

Yeah, exactly. A gift is something I survived through. Yeah. It's awful. Gotta change that perspective. He hates to see birthdays coming. Yeah, literally. He's like, we just had our one year wedding anniversary.

Did you like it? Thank God. Oh, congratulations. That's awesome. He was like, what should we do? Do you want to do like a joint gift? And maybe like, you could figure it all out and then we could just get the same thing for each other.

I was like, sure. We should get a side by side. We got matching rings. Something just right. A joint gift. We got matching rings. We got matching rings. That's great. Yeah that's really how you get out of it. That's awesome. Yeah something sentimental. Are you wearing it? Yeah it's right here. So you taught yourself how to play the guitar at 11. Piano. Piano.

Piano, sorry. Piano. And guitar around the same time, but. Because when you got up there and you were playing the piano on Saturday, I was like very, very envious of you. I'm always very envious of people who could do things that I can't do. And I took piano lessons as a kid,

and then they said quit. Yeah. And you got up there and you just, hey, it's all right. Was that something your parents were like, I'm putting you in piano, you're gonna learn, or you were like, I wanna do this? Yeah, I pretty much sat down on piano one day and then didn't get up for years.

Really? And I would come home from practice or from school and throw my backpack in the corner and I'd sit down and clank on the keys until like 10 o'clock at night, every single day until I was like probably 15. What was the first song you learned? Oh gosh.

Doremi fa. I used to play chopsticks a lot and my mom would tell me to stop. I think it might've been chopsticks. That's all I never got asked about. The universal, yeah. Yeah. What was, remind me of the song you played

at Stagecoach on the piano? Oh, there was a couple. You take my, I'm in your rhythm. Oh yeah. What was, remind me of the song you played at Stagecoach on the piano? Oh, there's a couple. You're talking about that, I remember you're about to. Oh yeah. What was that one? Mm, mm, mm, mm, tch tch tch. Oh, yeah, yeah, Ring of Fire. Yeah, goodness gracious.

Great Balls of Fire. Great Balls of Fire, there you go. All right, I did that one and then we did, did I do Bohemian Rhapsody? No, but I do in the other shows. I just didn't have enough time. And then we did some Hank Williams Jr. Then we did Keep Your Hands to Yourself. Yeah, Georgia Satellites. What's been like your, like growing up, who's been kind of the country

artist that you look towards? Oh gosh, there's a couple. I mean, okay, so I kind of grew up a mutt to music, if I'm being honest. I grew up listening to reggae. I come from like a Samoan family on my dad's side. My classic rock, heavy metal, and then my country radio. I love like Jerry Lee Lewis, Elton John, Billy Joel, Queen, Hall of Notes, Jim Croce, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, you know, that's my stuff right there. Did you see any of Creed or like, did you stick around for the rest of the season?

I missed it. I missed it. I was very tired at that point. I was like, I can't go back to the fairgrounds. But Creed is one of my all-time favorites. With arms wide open all time favorites. Do you, I mean, you know, you obviously play a lot of covers, uh, and young artists obviously do that a lot. Is it really cool to like, you're up there and you start playing your music and you see, you know, the audience, like, you know, just get as excited about your music as the covers. Is that, is that, do you remember the first time you felt that moment?

Yeah, dude, it was actually during, which that's the best feeling in the world, man. It was during CMA Fest, I think, and I was fixing to play the hard rock stage, and it was my first CMA Fest last year. I think it was like last July or something. And I wasn't really knowing what to expect. I had wine and whiskey out. I think I had just dropped Wind Up Missing You, like a month or two before that. And I hadn't really played a lot of live shows that are like anyone

can come kind of thing. And I walked on stage and there was a sea of people in Broadway. There was like 8,500 people. They're closed down Broadway. They had to send out like an amber alert on the CMA app saying, hey Broadway is shut down for Tucker Whitemore set, yada yada. It was nuts. Yeah I wish I had a picture of it. I was about to say you should have screen shot of that and printed it. It was nuts. But everybody was singing every word. Wow was that the first time you realized like holy fuck I've made like a viral, like, I've done it, like, everyone knows my songs. It was a good indicator of what's to come, I'd say.

You know, it was definitely the first time where I was like, damn, I might have a shot. You know, I might be able to do this. That must have been a cool feeling. Best feeling of my life. It was sick, and I get it, you know, almost every night on stage still it's cool What's been your favorite song you've released this far? I

Don't know. That's a tough one. So I just dropped an album with 19 songs and I Got a couple favorites like bad luck looks good on me. That's the one I sang on camel last night It's probably my favorites Drank alone is a good one. Were you able to choose a song that you sing on Kimmel? Yeah, did that you were they tried to they tried to kind of lean me another way, but I was like no I want to do this, you know, yeah, it's my first late night I kind of want to sing something that not that I enjoy singing more than others But sure something that feels good for late night. How was your first late night experience? It was cool. Yeah, it was really cool Yeah, like I was saying earlier was quick. There was a lot of prep time for a very short amount of time.

Does it feel weird like showing up in the afternoon, you know, and thinking, that was for me when the first time I did that, because you think you're watching it late, it's late night, like nighttime, and you're like, yeah, you're showing up at three o'clock. Yeah, exactly. And then you record at five.

Yeah, it was weird. Yeah. On your fun facts, it says, what are you watching? And it says you're more of a movie movie guy and then it says anyone but you Yeah, I love movies. I'm a big Marvel guy, if I'm being honest. Marvel? Yeah.

Okay. Are you gonna see Thunderbolt? Thunderbolt, yeah. Nice that it was rated well. That comes out soon, doesn't it? Yeah. Very high ratings. This is a new character in Marvel?

It's a comic book. Nothing's new. Yeah. Because it's all very old comics. They're bringing people from some of the TV shows, some of the other people from movies who aren't dead, putting them in a new movie. The cinematic universe.

Yeah, that's gonna be sick. It's so exciting. If you were to, if there were to be a biopic about you, who would you want to play you? A biopic, like in a movie? Yeah, like you know we just had Timothee Chalamet do Bob Dylan. Yeah.

Who would you? Oh gosh, I don't know, in a reasonable sense or like a, I'm a huge Ryan Reynolds fan. Okay. I think Ryan Reynolds would be sick. Okay. I think I would wanna do it, honestly. I think I would wanna, you know.

You would crush your own life, you think? I mean, I think I would wanna, you know. You would crush your own life, you think? I mean. I think you would. I would hope so. Can Ryan sing? I don't know. Good question.

Did anyone think Timothy Jallimacket sing? I did. I didn't. And. That movie was sick, I watched it on the plane. It was so good, so did I. Remy Malik didn't have to sing, and he still won an Oscar, so.

For who? Who? Playing a queen. Queen, he sang. I don't think he's, I think he lip-synced a lot of that shit. For who? Who? Yay. Playing Queenie. Queenie sang. I don't think he's, I think he lip-synced a lot of that shit. Did he? I'm pretty sure. She's like stunned.

She's like, I'm gonna Google it. So you played Freddie Mercury. Like, let's find out, Google it. Did he sing? I'm pretty sure he didn't. Rami Malek sing in Bohemian Rhapsody. No. Oh damn what?

Take away that Oscar. That's so stupid just you wore teeth. That's that's it Well, you can argue. I mean like you know, that's you really was acting Yeah, that was a great movie. Nonetheless great. Yeah that scene that you know the ending awesome. Yeah. Yeah if you had a superpower You know, the ending, awesome. Yeah. Yeah. If you had a superpower, what would that superpower be? Nowadays, I wish I could teleport. Cause I'm traveling online. It's always mine. It's always mine.

You're traveling so much, you'll probably just get there. Yeah, and I like to, I like the idea of me snapping my fingers, I'm in Mexico too. Yes, of course, on a beach. That's right. With a beer. That's right, margarita. With a margarita.

That's right. If you could be anywhere but here. Literally. Then we should get the fuck out of here. I'm just gone. He's like, Anne, I'm out. No, absolutely not. That's nuts.

What has been your family's reaction to all your success? I mean, I'm sure they're so happy for you, but like what has been your mom, your dad's reaction to all this? My family's ecstatic. My mom's like my biggest supporter, my biggest fan. I mean, in more ways than giving birth to me. She's probably one of the main reasons

why I'm here and doing this. She was the one that pushed me to kind of do music after football didn't work out in college and stuff like that. Did you play football in college? I did. In Montana. Really, what position?

I was a receiver. Okay. Back in the day. Good, I'm on the team. What's your 40? Oh, it was like a, oh gosh. Like back in the day, it was probably like four, seven. Okay, yeah, pretty great.

Good. Not bad. But yeah, I mean, they're excited. Yeah. My mom's great. My sisters are great. I grew up with four sisters and they're always. Where do you fall in line?

I got three older and then one younger. Okay. Yeah. They are loving all little brother's attention that he's getting right now. Yeah, they don't mind it. He's not that great. Actually, he really can't sing. Didn't West Wilson play for Montana?

I played at Montana Tech. Montana Tech? Yeah, my grades were ass. Montana State? You played at Montana State. Okay. Got you. The Cats.

Are you a Vols fan? I'm an organ fan. So I grew up in the piss of the Northwest, so I'm an organ duck. Where'd you get that slumming twang? I don't know. I'm just talk slow, I guess. I'm stupid. I'm stupid. I'm an organ fan. So I grew up in the Pacific Northwest. So I'm an organ duck. Where'd you get that slow and twang? I don't know.

I'm just talk slow, I guess. I'm stupid. That's stupid. That's about it. I told you my grades weren't good. My grades were not good. That's what they told me. They told me I was too redneck.

I needed to learn how to change my accent or people would think I was just stupid. It's gotta be great to feel like, struggle in school. I mean, I'm assuming there's some level of being serious that your grades weren't good or whatever, I was just stupid. It's gotta be great to feel like, struggle in school. I'm assuming there's some level of being serious that your grades weren't good or whatever, but to be able to do what you're doing now. And I'm sure there were probably teachers back in the day

have been like, you're gonna not do, you're not gonna. Oh, 100%. I'll call them out right now too. Sure, name it. I was kidding. I was just kidding. But did you have teachers doubting you?

There was a couple couple for sure. Most of my teachers were great though. You know, it's not that I sucked at school. I just didn't like homework. You know, that was my thing. I'd rather sit there and play the piano instead of doing my homework and I would go and ace all the tests. Oh, so then you were smart.

No, I wasn't smart. But like, that sounds like a smart person. I didn't have to do homework. I mean, I did all of my tests. I sucked at school. You know, I sucked at homework. But I also sucked at homework. This just seems stupid.

Yeah. Pete, you're on tour right now. Where can people buy tickets? Where can they come and see you? Where are you playing next? Yeah. I guess my website. I don't, that's above my pay grade. I'm being honest.

I'm not in charge of none of that. I'm gonna go ahead. Like tuckerwetmore.com. Yeah, that's it, I think. Is that what it is? Okay, perfect. Tuckerwetmore.com? Is that it?

Yeah, I think so. Okay. Yeah. We can spell it for you guys. It looks like you'll be in Texas through May 2nd through the 7th. That's good. You got Nashville. Everyone in the 21st. Yeah, for the rhyming. Oh, that's huge. Yeah, 2nd through the 7th. That's good. You got Nashville.

Everyone in the 21st. Yeah, for the Ryman. Yes. Oh, that's huge. I'm playing the Ryman. That's huge, that's a really big deal. That's crazy. And for the ladies out there,

if they are interested in reaching out. And maybe they're like laid back, right? Maybe they're chill. They don't need you like 100% of the time. Maybe they also like work remote. Maybe they like can travel with you to shows. How fun could that be? What is a message that would ring true to your heart?

That would you notice? What? Yeah, like a message. What could they write you? Oh, that girl's gonna write me? That would like catch your attention. That would make you respond. Probably just a simple hi.

I'm a simple guy. Just a hi. Just a hey, what's up? How are you? See what happens, I guess. I don't know. Well, this has been fun, Tucker. Thank you so much for coming.

Great, thank you. Wishing nothing but the best, man. It's really fun to see people like rise like you've risen, man. And you obviously are very talented and it seems like you have nowhere to go but up. So it's excited to watch your journey go. Well, thank you guys, I appreciate it.

All right, man, take care. All right, well thank you guys for listening. Appreciate our guests, Angela Oakley and Tucker Wetmore for joining us. We will see you tomorrow for an explosive episode of Going Deeper with Lexi Wood. Do not miss that. And Thursday is also gonna be an incredible episode of reality recap

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