The Viall Files - E93 Pilot Pete on Tattoos, Love Languages and Sex Toys

Episode Date: February 12, 2020

The Bachelor himself Peter Weber joins Nick in the studio to commiserate on the struggle of dating 30 women at once. Peter shares his enneagram number, tells us a “crazy” story about his first heartbreak, and bonds with Nick over their relationship with their moms.  Then we play a game with Peter and find out if he’s ever totaled a car or used a sex toy. "12/20/14 - NO RAGRETS!" Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: EMBARK DNA: http://embarkvet.com/ CODE: VIALL REMRISE: https://getremrise.com/viall  BETTERHELP: https://www.betterhelp.com/viall See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

what is going on everybody happy wednesday hope you're having a great week big episode today as you all know we have amazing guests on this show. And then sometimes we have The Bachelor. And I don't mean me because, hey. No longer. The current Bachelor, Peter Weber, will join us today. Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete. Ready for takeoff.

We are. We're going to really get to know Pete this episode. Get to know his heart. Get to know his heart. His truth. Why does he make the decisions that he makes? Why does he love girls that cry?

Why does he love girls that cry? But no, we'll have some fun. We'll get to know Pete. Hopefully, we'll have conversations with Pete

that he hasn't been asked 30,000 times yet. Yeah. He's everywhere. And been asked questions that quite honestly doesn't really, doesn't have the ability

to probably be totally honest right or even answer right what other what other people do but not

he doesn't get to have a conversation with many people who have been in the exact same circumstances he's in right now I hope you guys enjoy

what is sure to be an incredible episode well it's episodes like these we like to remind people who no doubt are tuning in to listen to Pete and we're probably getting some new audience people check us out. We are here three days a week. We are doing bachelor recaps that drop after the episodes we are doing on

Monday's episodes. We do our ass Nick episodes where our audience members will call in, share some of their dating stories life stories uh very intimate stories we do appreciate the the people who do call in and we uh i tell them what to do it's incredible i don't know they seem to listen but um uh but honestly there are people seem to enjoy it So check us out. We appreciate you doing that. But other than that, yeah. Should we just get to Pete? I can't wait.

Let's do it. Peter Weber, how are you? I am good, man. I'm surviving. Thanks for coming. Yeah. You seem a little stressed. Yeah, I'm not going to lie.

Definitely a little bit stressed. However, why, Peter? I don't know. Anything going on in your life these days? stressed however why i don't know just anything going on in your life these days whoo it's uh i don't think i ever expected to i guess have this many opinions about my love life i knew i was going to go on to be the bachelor people gonna have opinions but this is this is insane it's uh it's a very hard job it is and you can't like i mean i remember asking you for advice and you gave me great advice as ben i asked colton but unless you actually go through it yourself and do it,

it's like a whole new world that you really ever can't completely prepare for. I remember, you know, well, it was probably Ben too. Chris Soules, I remember before I was a bachelor. And before I was a bachelor, I was, you know, I got, I took second twice. I had very traumatic experiences and I felt like I've gone, you know, I felt like, oh, yeah, I had very traumatic experiences and, and I felt like I've gone, you know, I felt like, oh yeah,

I really, boy, it's really hard for me. And then anytime like Chris or Ben would be like, yeah, but like, dude, you don't know like being the bachelor.

And I was, and I'd always be like, yeah, no, you don't know what it's like for me. And then I was a bachelor. Like, this is impossible.

It is literally impossible. Like it's never a good idea to date 30 women at once. And it just, it doesn't get easier. And the emotion, like literally for me, the physical turmoil I had to go through as well. Yeah. And then I'm pretty sure I told you, well, I'm glad you finished that impossible task, but going through it while it's airing is also equally as impossible. Is it living up to its expectations? It's actually a lot harder watching this back for me. It was easier going through it because there was so much I didn't know. And there was so much information I just was not privy to.

Watching it back for me has actually been way harder than I ever thought it'd be. Really? Yeah. Why? I mean, I'm sure you remember from your experience. There are just as legit so many conversations and interactions between the women that, you know, I'm making decisions in the moment based off the information I have, and I'm not making dumb decisions on purpose. And I know everyone thinks I am, and everyone

thinks I'm just being indecisive. And yeah, there was a lot of indecision, but that's what you get when you date so many women at once. Look, I've gone on record for the life of me. I have no idea why anyone, especially the women in the house were mad about the alea situation yeah you're no one else that was really that was tough for me no one else has to get engaged but you right right i mean not that you have to but no one has the expectation of picking someone they can all leave whenever it's all fine so well and to be completely fair like i i they didn't show this part necessarily in the show but i i made it very clear like the women didn't have to be there you know like when they kind of confronted me in cleveland about bringing alea back you know and

again i totally understand their frustration i'm not trying to be naive to that i totally get it but i'm here having a very difficult task of having to make these decisions and you know yes they were expressing their frustration with me but you know if they didn't want to be there i didn't want them there and i only want someone here that actually wants to pursue something with me and um you know if i were to piss someone off to the point they didn't want to be there then like i'm not holding here you can you can leave you know and um that was just a tough a tough week for me for sure yeah very difficult i i i bet did you ever when you watch it back do you uh are there um do you have different points of view

of some of the women um and what you got to know in person versus watching it back and seeing some of the conversations you they had with each other that like as a bachelor you're not privy to yeah um you know, what conversation really didn't sit well with me was, uh, the stuff between Tammy and Kelsey and seeing that kind of interaction go back and forth. Uh, when I canceled that cocktail party in Costa Rica, that, that was BS to be honest. Like I don't stand for that at all. And Tammy calling out Kelsey that way and, um, accusing her of that kind of stuff. I, I don't stand for. And, you know, I definitely I remember my interactions with Tammy. I enjoyed them. I thought, you know, I definitely admired

her and I still do. You know, she's a super hardworking person, has a lot of amazing qualities. But seeing her the way she kind of attacked Kelsey and attacked, you know, talk with Sydney, that's stuff I didn't like. I felt like she was unraveling a little bit yeah i don't she seemed like up into the point she seemed like a pretty cool hang you know maybe not your person yeah and then all of a sudden out of nowhere she was just like looking for things we're just like you didn't button up your shirt i'm telling peter you uh you're telling peter i know like what you didn't pack i don't chill out yeah it. I just feel like she was like on the attack mode a little bit. And so we have remaining Kelsey, Hannah Ann, Victoria F., and Madison.

Great picks. Yeah. You know, I'm a fan of them all. And this is why I like Kelsey. Yeah. But these four, I feel very good about. And this is also like people that they were like, oh, he's so indecisive. But I kind of knew, you know, there was a good chance they're going to be my top four.

Peter might not be able to say this, but you really care about your top four. And you probably have a pretty good idea who your top four is for most of the time. Not always. It can be variable. So, but to that point, you're very protective of that. And some of the other things that happen, eh, whatever, let's just go with it. But I don't even think anyone,

like anyone that's being realistic and watching this show shouldn't be confused or surprised by that. Any human being is obviously not gonna be all in on all 30 people. You know, you're gonna hopefully give everyone a chance, but anyone's attracted to a smaller group of possibly 30 30 and so i'm i'm not afraid to admit that i'll fully admit that and that's why i wasn't worried about a lot of the drama going through um bark still still one of the more fascinating friends of show yeah test your dog test your dog? Your dog's DNA. Find out more. We are big advocates of rescuing dogs.

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winless battle being some the bachelor sometimes yeah this indecisiveness i think is coming from this you truly seem to be open and giving a lot of these relationships a fair shot where other leads, especially myself, you lock into a couple early on and you're like, yeah, this is my person. And you're basing your decisions off of that. So I did my best, yeah, to truly give everyone a chance.

And I can honestly say that, but me also just being honest, I also did have my top front runners that maybe interchanged a couple of times, you know, in the top four, five, six, but. And like you said, that's totally human. That's human. No one can complex a truth.

Also in a short period of time, you want that to be true. Right. To the point where for all the reasons that you might be getting criticism now about indecisiveness, it's like you need to have a pretty good idea to be true right to the point where for all the reasons you might be getting criticism now about indecisiveness it's like you need to have a pretty good idea pretty early on of who your favorites are yeah i mean this is only it's a two-month experience you can't if you kind of don't have

that idea early on you know how can realistically can this really work you know well peter i think you're doing a bang-up job was uh victoria p ever one of those top four in your mind yes oh actually yeah and again that's why i'm saying like it wasn't maybe till week four or five that they kind of really started to solidify for me but man i had that first one on with victoria p and i was i was like wow this girl has got me right here you seem yeah you seem very into her i was and it was that was super unfortunate with all the just the Alea stuff, her and Victoria P. And I still never really got to the bottom of it, you know?

I really loved it. Sorry. Me neither. I mean, to a detriment to you, you're like, I hear her talking. I see what she's saying. You're just like so confused. And I'm like, it's called lying. But like, why?

Why not just be honest and tell me you guys know each other? Why are you hiding that? The previous season, Hannah and Caitlin knew each other. Maybe you can add some clarity because here's what I didn't understand. Back to that fight. Is that it seemed like Alea got sent home. It seemed like all the girls were basically picking on her. And the final straw that broke the kennel back and you're like i don't know what alea was it seemed like victoria p accused her of lying about those

two knowing each other right right right and then all of a sudden the next episode it was alea's like no we fucking know each other and victoria p was like yeah but barely and then it's like it would seem like it switched were you as confused as i was when that was going down i had a conversation with victoria p outside of the pool party she's like i've known alea for 15 minutes those are her exact words to me i we met one time at a pageant uh beauty pageant um competition we know each other for 15 minutes that's it you know and that's the truth yeah and and then i go back and i find out from alaya that they had gone to vegas together and that they all over the internet

yeah i'm like guys i don't care about that just be honest like it's not a big deal like yeah like who cares who knew each other you guys are friends it's great like i'm all about it but you know what it's a good thing it happened because you were very into uh vp i was and and you know i'm sure she's a fine person but in that moment she revealed herself to be not super honest in a situation that she should have easily be honest to your point like it's weird when people lie about things they have no real reason to lie about because that makes you think well shit this is gonna be the easy part right right like if you want to kind of be gonna be the easy part right right like if you want to kind of be dishonest about this type of situation like what could you be dishonest about

in the future you know yeah so totally well i figured we'd spend some time trying to get to know peter because we have four women left we don't know who's gonna pick i gotta say thank you for being right so far that no one's going to spoil it i'm really i'm personally enjoying not knowing yeah i have my i've decided who i i think you're going to pick okay uh can we get that on record here yeah for sure let's let's we i had peter take some personality tests i'm convinced and we've now discovered by watching the show uh it's clear to me that your love language is words of affirmation, which you didn't agree with.

I actually didn't agree with that, no. What did you think it was? I've always been a very firm believer that I was physical touch and quality time. And my chest... You can be... You don't have to be just one. So you probably do... Probably a mix of... Yeah.

But when you filled it out, you were... Came back. Yeah. Quality words is what I said. Quality words. Which is obvious to me because you're watching it back peter you really you love a crier and you really yeah i yeah i do you know what i do that's fine that's totally fine and but all jokes aside you can tell when you're going through this you have this uh real uh sincere fear which every does, but in your way like of wanting this to work

and having it not work. And you need validation from the women that you're falling for. And when they say it, you light up like a Christmas tree and it really makes you feel good. And that's how you feel. It's so obvious. It's just so funny.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember, I guess with Kelsey, that date in Cleveland and we like, I remember with Kelsey was such a, it was a unique development of our relationship. We almost, we hit on the emotional part right off the bat on that first date

and almost, we had fun, but it wasn't like the normal progression of a relationship where you guys flirt and it's all, it's just cute. And just, you guys have, it's a very lighthearted, good time. We kind of just, we took off right from the bat and like connected emotionally and very deep. And in a weird way that i love that and that's a that's a huge reason of why

i connect with her so quickly and so early on um so i guess you're right i i have yeah a soft spot in my heart for words of affirmation there's nothing wrong with that peter you seem like you want it to be something else i want to hear that i'm loved i guess yeah you're right i'm uh i'm uh i took it i'm like uh i'm pretty even with uh words of affirmation quality time and physical touch okay and then like the other two i forget what they are i'm like a zero acts of service and receiving gifts yeah i don't i'm not a gift person at all i'm not a gift person cool but i don't really need you to do anything for me i really don't need anything for christmas well we're gonna get to what you want for valentine's day in a second um but uh also we had you take the enneagram and you are a seven yes rochelle

what is a seven the enthusiast the busy variety seeking type spontaneous versatile acquisitive and scattered scattered maybe, that's very appropriate. Everyone listening is like, oh, well, now we know. Why you split his head open? Can't blame me, okay? Very spontaneous, yeah, I relate. What else we got here? Basic fear is being deprived and in pain.

That's what this says. I don't know what that's. Basic desire to be satisfied and content to have your needs fulfilled. Yeah. Okay. You want your freedom needs fulfilled. Yeah. Okay. So. Okay. You want your freedom and happiness.

Yeah. Well, he's a pilot. Needs to spread those wings if you will. Spread my wings. Wind beneath my wings. I love it. So with this new information, and then you were something else. You took some other personality test, some spiritual one. Oh, what was the five?

What was that five in? Life path five. I don't even know what that means though. What is that, Julie? Julie missed the person behind the curtain. Path number five. I think with this information, we're going to figure out who. So what are you for your-

Five is the number of freedom and change, and those with a life path of five tend to seek freedom above all else. Uh-oh. They are adventurers having a restless nature and being on the go constantly seeking change and variety. Yeah. Uh-oh. Right on, Peter.

Catch me if you can. Definitely on the go. That's my catchphrase. Catch me if you can. That's spot on. I am a life path five. I'm a number seven enneagram and i love quality words there that's there you know you seem really bugged about this quality words

part like it's words of affirmation or words of affirmation like you you seem bugged that that's that's what you i know i mean i guess the science doesn't lie i just legit i i love quality time i more than anything like just you know with my girl i if i more than anything, like just, you know, with my girl, I, if I could do anything, it'd just be to come home on like a Friday, Saturday, whatever night and just get cozy and just on the couch and just watch a movie. And that's literally what I love more than anything. So nice. I think that's great. You know, I know you talked a lot, uh, to him, like a big part of, uh, your first one I'm on with-one with Hannah Ann was about being in love before and having dating experience.

I'd love to learn a little bit about the first time you were in love and the first time you got your heart broken. Yeah, that's, so I was always a very, very shy kid growing up. And I still have like a lot of that shyness in me. For some reason, people don't believe me when I say that, but I really am.

And I, like, so my first girlfriend, I remember I was in my senior year of high school and I could not talk to girls in high school. And it was my, so my senior year, I was going to try out for a musical, Thoroughly Modern Millie. And we did the tryout. It was the end of the fall semester

and we were going to start rehearsals during winter break and he's gonna go into the spring. And I go in and I sing Amazing Grace for my auditions. I can't sing to save my life, but I just wanted to do it for the fun of it and do a little bit of dancing. And so I somehow made it through the Amazing Grace song. And this girl, Kristen Randall,

she was my first girl from, standing outside at the water fountain. And I could have had a crush on her, but I could never say anything to her. And I go out and she kind of like breaks the ice and finally talks to me for the first time and asks, she's like, hey, how was your song? Like, you know, how was your audition?

And like, I didn't, like, I like froze up real quick. I didn't know how to respond. I'm like, dude, just be normal, Peter, be normal. And I, we just started talking. And that was kind of like my first, first love, like puppy dog love, you know, like you kind of, I was, I was a year above her in high school. I graduated a year before and it's, it was like that first, you know, real tough decision I was ever faced with like, shoot, do I like pick a school kind of close back to home for

her? Do I kind of like, you know, get out of state and whatnot and um yeah that was kind of my first love and kind of first heartbreak that i ever had to feel for you know like legit heartbreak why'd you feel heartbreak from that just because when i when i invest like i go 100 all in and that's i'm proud of that like i love that quality about me. But it's just, man, when it doesn't work, it destroys me. Is that the only time you've been in love before the show? No. I've been in love with Kristen and then pre-Hannah Brown. Yeah, pre-Hannah Brown.

Two other times after that. What was the longest relationship you had uh about three years oh okay but that was on and off sure that was on and off and um you want to hear a crazy story man i do this is gonna this is gonna for sure uh solidify number seven or something you guys are not gonna believe this so can't believe i'm saying this right now but yes screw it whatever um give you a little taste of who peter is how crazy and spontaneous peter is so this girl i thought i was gonna marry okay all right i was all about her and i kid you not we i officially asked her out on december 20th 2014 she fucked you up like you know dates well you're gonna understand why i know that date here just give me a little bit so i asked her out december 20th 2014

and 15 days later we uh we're just hanging out and um like hey what do you want to do today i've never had a tattoo she's never had a tattoo or she she actually she had gotten a tattoo um like a couple weeks ago and we're like you want to get tattoos or she said that i was like yeah why not she's like what should we do i love you we'll be together forever this is amazing this is 15 days after we started dating and we go to this tattoo shop and we decided to get the date that I asked her to be my girlfriend tattooed. No. How old are you?

I guess like 20. You're an adult. Yeah, I'm an adult. Sure. Yeah. And I get the tattoo 12-20-14 tattooed on our right hip. Both of us matching tattoos. I'm like, we're going to be together forever.

Awesome. And it was like 15 days and everyone thought we were crazy. We're like, no like we're gonna be together forever awesome and um it was but it's like 15 days and everyone thought we were crazy or like no we're not crazy at all and uh we it lasts like about a year just over a year i'm like we're like this is working and uh and then we break up and that sucked but we didn't we both didn't get it removed and we get back together like thank god we didn't get it removed this is gonna work we're gonna make it happen and then we get we break up a second time she gets hers covered up it's not the tattoo anymore it's like she makes like a flower thing out of it and then i start getting like the first laser removal done and it like that hurt like so much and uh then we get back a third time so now

this like it's just messed up so it was never gonna work and we break up the final third time and it's for good and then i had to go through seven sessions of laser removal to get this tattoo i will never get a tattoo ever again of a matching tattoo with a girl probably unless unless maybe my wife it's it's well you know but oh yeah uh crazy crazy that's the kind of guy i am i'm very passionate um so you broke up three times with this person yeah how many times uh i'm gonna guess that she broke up with you twice then you ended it at the end holy shit you're good yeah that's exactly how it went well and i never thought it'd be that way because i was so in there like my heart was so invested in her and i the third time like thank god i got the strength to

like actually just realize no this is not working. I need to move on. I'm surprised you got that. Did you have to... Was there another girl that you met that made you think there was... No. Okay. No. And it's funny.

I actually... I met... Who were we with yesterday in New York? The love guru guy, Matthew Hasse or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know who he is? He used to... I haven't met him, but he used to date Camila...

Cabella. Yeah. Cabella. Matthew Hussey? Hussey. That's who it is. Yeah i haven't met him but he used to date uh camellia camilla those things yeah yeah i actually met him super cool dude um i i was so bad this i was so heartbroken through this i couldn't really talk to anyone like think of a girl for like four or five months after and when you ended it yeah when i ended it but i was still heartbroken sure and i i'm such a dork man i i would literally from my house, whenever I'd go fly a trip out of LAX, it's about a 45 minute to an hour commute. I'd put his podcast on how to get over heartbreak.

And I just listened to them on repeat. And like, that's what got me through it. But it took me forever. And I just, it takes me a lot, like a long time to get over stuff. But yeah. He's a sweetheart. Yeah.

I mean, we've had similar paths that way especially when you're younger I now I I don't I have nothing left inside no heart

but I used to be that way yeah oh god your future I hope this works out Peter I hope it does too yeah there he is that's great that guy is a genius yeah have you ever seen

the movie forgetting sarah marshall of course yeah great breakup movie yeah i've resonated with the guy his name is peter in the movie there you go it is yeah um and all right so that had she reached out to you since you became the bachelor is she like like, oh, I messed up? I've run it. So we kind of live in the same area. I've run into her, honestly, only like maybe once or twice. And it's just been, you know, cordial. More importantly, I'm curious, like how do you, I'm assuming, like when you look back, remembering how heartbroken you were about that relationship.

Yeah. And then thinking about her now or even seeing her now i'm guessing completely different feeling about it oh it is and i again i was on that person that when you're i'm feeling that heartbreak it's like and i i'm so bad i like i lean on my family my friends like crazy and i like just will talk to them for hours about the same things and i'll repeat it over and over i had one breakup peter where i called my mom every morning for six months oh that makes me feel so much better yeah okay so you know what i'm talking about every our mom on my way to work and my mom god bless her she loved it because i'm calling her every morning i'm the exact same way my My dad was like, dude, you gotta stop. Mom's like, no, don't.

Every morning. It was insane. And it's like, it's honestly love to me. And that's why I was so grateful for to have this opportunity. Like I truly, I love, love so much. And it's the greatest feeling in the world. I feel like anyone can feel. But when it doesn't work out, it's just, it's one of the most miserable feelings of having to get over that. You truly feel like it's never going to get better

until that day that it does. And sure. But now that you've gone through it and like, you've seen this girl, like she's in your community. Right. It was completely different. You know, like, listen, I wish you the best. I hope that you have found someone. I hope you're with someone and I hope this works out right but if god forbid you have to at any point in your life deal with heartbreak again yeah do you think that it will be easier for you knowing that you've gone you've you've survived it once already yeah i know i think it definitely and it has been easier for me i mean she wasn't my last heartbreak i had to you know deal with stuff with with hannah brown too I think, yeah, you just get more and more resilient.

That's just part of growing up and becoming more mature with relationships in your love life. I don't think I've ever necessarily felt that kind of pain again that I felt with her, the one from the three years. I've had amazing relationships since then, but yeah, I think you just get more resilient. Better help. They're doing great things, helping people with their mental health and making that

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that same thought of, I don't think I'll get over this, but that the only difference is, but I know I will. I don't know when, it still hurts as much, maybe even worse, but you just, you have a sense that you'll get over it yeah and just to clear it like clear it up because that the three-year one that was like the worst one i had felt it with the girl from high school but it was nothing like the the three-year you fall hard peter i gotta say because when i when i came when you invited me the blunt bank and you were yeah you were we were talking a little bit about the season i i didn't think

you were that into hannah at the time you know and you're just like yeah you know and it was such it was so sincere and so like earnest it was like you could tell you were at the time really uh affected by it i mean why why you didn't reach out to her believe me i wanted to and i thought about it and honestly um again everything happens for a reason but it's honestly just like i just was following the rules that's literally all that i was doing like and maybe i shouldn't have honestly like i'm just being honest yeah that's true that's that's that's that's how it works also in you know i'll defense to peter like there was a bunch of other shit going on in her life

that even the rules weren't there, man, man, that would be pretty like, it wasn't like, imagine minus the show of falling for someone. And then knowing there's like two other people in the picture, you don't know what's going on.

Like that would take some guts to be like, by the way, I'm just going to put myself out there. I don't really know. At number three, I don't know who necessarily like in their sane mind would think that's a good idea like you actually i don't know if i was if number two maybe yeah but i don't know i just i didn't and it is what it is at this point you know no regrets uh tattoo that on yourself no regrets no regrets r-a-g-r-e-t-s uh that's that's that's uh it's been a crazy year though it's like insane to

think back like about a year ago is when all this started yeah it's insane all that's happened since last year and who knows what you know it's only the beginning for you peter yeah i do have one question left okay sydney what the fuck i mean i i'm not questioning why you sent her home but that was bizarre is there a story there that we didn't get to see because first she's uh the best kisser you have this very hot one-on-one and then usually if you have a one-on-one you get sent home like v even vp there's like this breakup there's like this conversation but it like, it was if it was week two and you're just like, see ya.

And she was also coincidentally like, bye. And then God. And I was, huh? What's going on? Like also, you know, Natasha, good for her. She made it further than anyone who's never got a one-on-one before. You know, anything there that we didn't get to see

or what happened there? Honestly, yeah. I know that probably confused a lot of people, but no, I mean, there's really nothing that I guess anyone really missed. It was just, you know, I know the comments I made about, yeah, best kisser and people like thought that was weird that I said that and she was. And so that's why I said it. That's not weird. Honestly, the best kisser from my season was a girl I sent home like week two. Who?

Forgot her name. But I remember I was like, I wasn't really that into her and we kissed and I was like, you are a great kisser. You know what it was? I think is I think where I was better at was I was better in the one-on-one environment than the group date environments.

And- That's because you're a human being, Peter. I guess so. And I like, I remember getting myself, I felt like I was getting myself into trouble because I would go on one, one-on-one. I'm like, oh wow, that was amazing. And then I go on another one.

That was amazing. And I would keep thinking they were, like they just kept getting better and better. And I'm like- He's the perfect bachelor. No, but it didn't help me out. It got, it just got harder and harder towards the end. And, you know, I went on that one-on-one with Sydney and we were in Costa Rica and I had an amazing time with her. We had a great dinner. She opened up

about something. My heart really fell for her. And like, I was like, words of affirmation. Okay, there you go. And you know, I gave her the rose cause I really wanted to give her the rose, but I should, it was just a point where at that point it's just a numbers game. And I had more women that I felt stronger for than Sydney. And that's all it was. Yeah. And then sometimes. But I get it. Honestly, I'm not proud of necessarily how like I had to say bite her.

I guess. What do you mean? You didn't do anything wrong. I'm just curious. No, but I agree. Like it's, you know, it's, it did kind of seem, and I, I've thought about that since it did kind of seem like it was a week two breakup and it wasn't, you know, we were a lot closer than just that.

I think it was honestly just, I don't know, I guess not one of my proudest moments. Okay, well, I think you're being really hard on yourself. Yeah. But you're a sweetheart. I think you're allowed, that's literally, you're allowed to just not give him a rose. Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously that's what happens.

It's totally fine. Valentine's Day is coming up, Peter. Right. You can't say whether you're, are you even allowed to say whether you're okay you can't say you're in love or not right it's always different i wasn't allowed to say i was always pissed about it i'm like everyone it's fine i'm okay i won't be shortly thereafter but i'm fine now um oh nick but uh if you were in love yeah uh what's the best valentine's day present you've ever gotten you don't like gifts i don't i because we had this debate going on the show that guys don't really care about valentine's day present no i or presents yeah but i care about that well because you're a giver yeah no but for you

would you want no we found an article uh about what guys might want or don't want for valentine's day and sexual acts is apparently number one yeah and then i love this article closely behind our cards cards cards and i'm pretty sure that if you pull 10 guys would you like a blow job or a hallmark card for valentine's day i'm how is this like six to four i am very shocked by that too show me the guy be like you know what could you write something nice actually you might you might if you say something really nice about me no i'm not that weird. Okay, stop. That's ridiculous. Not at all. Oh, man.

I had some crazy Valentine's Days before, though. What's the best gift you've ever given a lady? You guys are going to think I'm crazy for this one as well. Yes. So it's the same girl, this three-year relationship. You don't have to apologize. Yeah, but you guys are going to actually think I'm crazy. I was flying a trip i came from uh somewhere in new york for our airport into uh idaho twin falls idaho

and this was for the weekend of valentine's day i got in on friday i wasn't going to fly out till monday and so i had the weekend off and the girl i was seeing it was going to be her birthday was on the 13th valentine's day obviously the day. And I didn't have jump seat privileges at this point, which means I couldn't just fly on an airline. I was flying private jets. So I couldn't, you know, I could only fly on that jet. And so I ended up getting out on Friday and I got it. I rented a car at 8 p.m. I remember this. And I drove from Twin Falls, Idaho to Phoenix arizona where she was having a horse competition over valentine's day and for her birthday and i was gonna i communicate with her best friend i was gonna surprise her and so i drove this is insane that's far 14 hours

throughout the night from 8 p.m got in at 10 a.m i stopped at one point i don't remember where in the country to sleep for 30 minutes at a truck stop i needed i was so exhausted i'd taken three five-hour energy bottles to get me through it i was was so tired. Oh my gosh. I get to Phoenix. I'm an absolute wreck. Her, her like best friend sneaks me into her room. I get under the covers. Her best friend has her like something for some reason, go up into the room and I like surprise her like out of like from the bed and she like loses her mind and like can't, you know, can't believe that I was there. Um, and I, and I, I told my mom the next day what I did. She got so mad at me that I drove that, you know, so dangerous.

And she like made me buy a ticket on the airplane and, you know, go home the next day. I was like, I get it. But yeah, I, I, that was probably the craziest gift I ever gave someone for Valentine's Day. Literally risking my life probably to go spend time with her. Appreciative. Oh, super appreciative she she loved it it was it was great it was it was an amazing time um but i don't think i'd ever do that again i know i hope that you are in love and that your fiance or girlfriend is listening

to this and being like, what the fuck? You got to do this for me now. You got to do this for me now. Screwing myself. No, you're totally fine. You're a genuinely, charmingly honest guy. And that's why we love you. And honestly, that's why you get yourself a little bit of trouble.

I mean, I'm defending Peter here, but I think you're doing a great job. And mid-seasons, it's tough managing all these I think you're doing a great job. And mid seasons, it's, it's tough managing all these, all these things. You're a guy who leads with his heart. Right. And sometimes leading with your heart gets a little sloppy. It does. And I'm learning that I should have put my foot down a little bit more in some cases. Do you regret that? You know, you almost want to, but then I'm like, I know the kind of person I am. And I'm someone that I give people the benefit of the doubt. I want to see the good in people. And so it's like when at one point, do you kind of like change who you are to help this kind of process work a

little bit more smoothly or not? So I made mistakes, but I like to say I don't have the regrets because it's just, it's mistakes that I'm learning from and in them do you think you're a people pleaser yeah oh yeah and again I think that's a flaw of mine that I like to I like to please too many people um for sure but that's who I am so yeah I mean I I don't think it's only a problem when it gets in the way of like changing who you are, right? And you seem to be pretty true to that. Like the only time it's really a problem if you're a people pleaser,

when you start pleasing people at the detriment to yourself or other people around you. When you can't, like you have to be able to say no to someone because, and like that's, it makes sense why you're getting in trouble as the bachelor because in what other world do you have a bunch of people you're openly dating it's being recorded and they all have different needs and your goal and your desire is to please all of them all while pleasing yourself and this is what we get it's fun It's very complicated. But that's totally fine.

Yeah. All right. So we'll break down the final four. Okay. Kelsey, Hannah Ann, Madison, and Victoria F. Yes. So I think Madison. You think it's with Madison? Well, every time you're always giving her extra stuff,

like you've thought a lot about her, like you're thinking about her when you're with the other. You seem the most comfortable, at least this point. Early on, there seemed to be the most natural connection with Madison. Yeah. Where it was so early and every time you were with Madison, you just wanted to like chill with Madison because you were dealing with so much stress that you felt early on.

It seemed obvious that you could be the most comfortable. You could be yourself around Madison and you didn't feel like you had to be the bachelor. So I think there's strong connection there. I can see that. Um, his face giving it away. Peter's been practicing. I mean mean that's just a lot of times

i honestly thought kelsey was gonna be your your pick okay uh especially after her one-on-one i think she probably isn't your pick why is that i think she's sweet but i think she is a little as much as you love a crier the first thing that came up when I googled Kelsey drunk well I think there no I think it might be a little too uh I don't want to say too much but I think you desire a little bit more stability right and I think well I thought you might have picked Kelsey after a one-on-one because the way you responded to her when she opened up about her story and then it connected, it reminded you of your parents.

I think it's obvious that you really admire your parents, not only them as people, but their relationship. And it was like, ooh, I think Peter sees a chance to be like, to have the same type of relationship he has with kelsey as he has his parents have that's a good point and like is that is she someone that your opinion changed after watching the episodes um i mean i guess with the champagne gate uh i didn't realize how long that kind of went on for after i was kind of i I dealt with it with her for a little bit. Um, it went on a little bit longer, but no, I mean like our first, our one-on-one was amazing.

And then honestly, my heart really, it went out to her even more seeing her have to deal with that stuff. Like I didn't, I was kind of the idiot there when I gave her the rose, when she came to see me in Costa Rica, I truly, I was not thinking that far in advance. I was just thinking like this girl really means a lot to me i'm gonna let her know right now so i'm gonna give her a rose i don't need a ceremony to know that you're so earnest which is you're just like you need to have this and but her reaction just means my love that's but that's what i was thinking and her reaction was just like thanks she realized it's like like i can tell she appreciated it and she loved it but now she's got to go back to the house she's already been dealing with all this shit it was if you gave

someone like this pill means i love you it also might kill you so you know go nuts yeah i i watched that back i'm like dude maybe you shouldn't have done that um but i did and i felt it in the moment um but what i didn't like you know seeing her take on that stuff i guess it was partly my fault it just made me feel a little bit bad about that you know but um i promise you she that girl is she's a great girl yeah i i uh i like kelsey i've said this even after you know she seems to me if nothing else a cool person oh yeah like romantically may not necessarily be me for me or whatever but i think i would be friends with kelsey i think i do think she is genuine and real i don't i don't think kelsey can be anything but kelsey she cannot hide her emotions yeah you get what you and you know but that's such a beautiful quality a little nuts sometimes but like i think she's probably very loyal oh and i bet she is like a pal and a very

good friend and i also liked when when tammy was uh going after mckenna kelsey was very quick to defend her when i there's i you know having gone through that before a lot of people don't back up other people and you're like well dude i was there for you and all of a sudden you just left me fucking hanging yeah she was very quick to defend mckenna no uh so i still don't think you pick her all right tell me who you think who's the third one uh victoria f uh victoria f emotionally i think you need those words of information she doesn't seem to be very good at doing that okay um honestly what's your opinion about the the date there in peru at the dinner portion when she kind of walks up well i mean you walked up after hannah ann which by the way i don't like

everyone's walking out of dates to that episode yeah that's true i guess uh no i'll be right back to the walkouts the dramatic you're fine you're fine here there's no food you can really eat it's super cold down and eat your dinner what did i think that uh i i don't think victoria s she doesn't seem to be good in the moment about processing her processing her emotions right like it takes a little bit of time it takes her some time uh what she seems like maybe is someone who has realized that about herself because i actually i think they did her a favor by airing you know when like i don't know who she was talking to her producer and like you didn't really see her but you you heard her saying it and she was just like i don't know why i do this he doesn't deserve this etc etc yeah i think they did her a favor by showing that because at least showed a self-awareness sure and and again i'm

just guessing here but if if neither of them are ideal but if the alternative of uh of of giving getting up and just removing yourself from a situation you don't know how to be poised in is to uh fight back and get defensive and potentially be mean and i've dated people like that um i think it's a mature thing to just know like i just need a moment too heated and go away yeah so like do i think that's ideal and do i think that's what you like to see per se no but if i was nitpicking victoria f in that situation it's like the lesser of two evils, you know? Yeah. Um,

and I would personally like my, I've dated a lot of people where they, they, if they get defensive, they get mean, then they apologize after the fight. And I'd rather have someone been like, I just need to,

can you just give me a moment? And that's not easy for me because I need a communicator, but. This guy's good at analyzing people. Damn. All right. What was your thoughts watching that date um i mean that was it was tough for me victoria you know f was just definitely someone that you know obviously she she ran hot a lot of the times but i knew like deep down there was there was i felt like a reason for that and um and you guys will see that reason

and i knew that i knew that if i just if i kept digging long enough i'd kind of understand and so you know i'm happy i did good okay yeah that's a little tease there what our appetite um i don't think you end up with victoria f okay he thinks uh you end up with victoria f okay he thinks uh you say madison i don't think madison uh i think she's sweet i've been hard on madison for the genuine and real instagram snafu yeah i i've said this i've sympathized with her i understand where it comes from but i think she should have owned up to it and i think she's big too selfful i think she's she's at her core very sweet and nice person she seems i mean her her so the top two my top two are hannah ann and and madison yeah uh both very sweet both young you know i know the storyline is that hannah ann has been

young but i gotta say hannah ann man and i think you you pick Hannah Ann. Hannah Ann, I like that she showed bite early on. Everyone thought episode one or two she was the villain of the season. I was like, you should have. Shut up. But at least that showed that side of her.

Like my favorite part of Madison so far is the four seconds where she looks super pissed she tied in a football game. That's right. This sucks. I'm like, yeah, yeah, Madison. I love that about Maddie.

She's so competitive in that. And I want to see more of that. I want to see. Oh, you will. I want to see the very unflattering side of Madison. But I think she, again. It's not unflattering. Yeah.

Honestly, I love that quality about her. But I think you have you have again a bunch of these women who are taught to be proper and say the right thing and be very nice and show restraint and again like we're victoria f you know the sloppiness of getting up and going out but that is or kelsey right that's that's their authentic selves and sometimes uh madison is almost a little too like nice. I want to see that other side, right? And I got to see that from Hannah Ann a little bit.

So yeah, I totally hear what you're saying. I kind of though resonate a little bit with Madison because she reminds me of how I kind of was with Hannah's season. I was never a drama starter. I was never someone that wanted to get into it so much. I and that's how she definitely is on on this season he's defending madison um so yeah what does that mean i don't know um um but i hear you sam i so i i think uh if i had to guess hannah and those are my top two okay if i had to guess i'm gonna say hannah and uh i think i totally knew everyone's perspective you mentioned that she is the most goofy and playful

yeah uh i think i've seen the most layers from her i think you're very physically attracted to her and i think you eventually get her to like open up and and then she starts giving you the worst affirmation that you need the words and here come the words and uh i think you you uh end up with medicine i mean no so fruity and slip there huh um those are not there those are my top two for sure yeah hannah and that she yeah she's probably one of the sweetest people you'll ever meet so you guys the top four are i say you're making me rethink my guess because i don't know if you're just deliberately trying to throw me off he's good he's good he's practiced because he's defending manson a little bit and kind of be like

i'll just say yeah with the top four it's it gets very very difficult very very difficult for me well i mean i'm glad that you are as confident and as happy with your top four it's it gets very very difficult very very difficult for me well i mean i i'm glad that you are as confident and as happy with your top four as you are because that's really not not to take anything away from the other women that's all that really matters right um and the fact that you have to hopefully get engaged in such a short period of time you you should feel as good as you do about your your top. Yeah, and this is, I guess, kind of where I'm okay being a little bit indecisive with the top four because they are such four, such amazing women.

Really hard decisions, like extremely hard. It sounds weird, but I wish I had a harder time picking. Really? I mean, again, I say that. No, you don't. I say this knowing that. He's like, no, you don't. Yeah, but like, listen, Vanessa, we all knowing that like no you don't yeah but like listen Vanessa

we all know that Vanessa and I didn't work out right so not to take anything away from her but uh I just was really focused on her and there was and I've said this before there was a time and it was pretty early on that after like my first one-on-one I like I was like it's it's gonna be I think it's gonna be her And I really tried to give Raven and Rachel, and I really had connections with them. And I thought very strongly about them, but Vanessa was always way ahead. And there was a fear for me of like, what if Vanessa leaves? And I felt like I was on The Bachelorette again. And again, I say this, I have the benefit of hindsight knowing that Vanessa didn't work out, but I just, maybe I don't want that, but I kind of wish I would have struggled a little,

a little bit more. And hope maybe I would have had a, been in a relationship, but that's, that's selfishly. So I know it was hard, but maybe, maybe,

maybe there's a silver lining, but before we let you go, we're almost going to wrap up. We're going to play this game called. Do you know me? It's real simple. Okay. We're still out. I'm going to guess who knows Peter Weber better. All right. Real simple questions. gonna wrap up i'm gonna play this game called do you know me it's real simple okay we're sure

and i'm gonna guess who knows peter weber better all right real simple questions uh feel free to share an anecdote if one uh if you're reminded of one don't don't answer right away i'll ask the question well sean i will guess and then you'll give your answer. Perfect. Ready? Let's do it. Question number one. Has Peter ever totaled a vehicle? Well, we know he likes high speeds, right? Because he's a pilot. Thrill. Need for speed. Need for speed.

Catch him if you can. I think he has. I think he's totaled a car. So just to clarify, totaled a vehicle means he got in an accident and it needed to go to the shop for more than like a week or even or total or like it. No, they just total, right? Total.

Total. I'm going to say no. He's a responsible. He's a pilot for one. I don't even know if he had total the car or how that would affect his ability to fly. I think Peter's probably an excellent driver. He calls his car his baby okay uh i'm not coming back now extra protection in the last season that's fine i'm

gonna say he has not what's the answer the answer is i have not oh i yeah i like to think of myself as a very self-driver it's actually funny my whole life because i've always wanted to become an airline pilot they're very critical about safety and driving records and whatnot so ever since i got my license i knew that i was being watched and every and you knew since you were that young you wanted to be a pilot i knew since i was like four years old oh but i got my license i'm like i am being watched now and so i can't say i've never got a ticket but the one ticket i got i i did get was a cell phone ticket i was on my phone but i've never got a ticket, but the one ticket I got, I did get was a cell phone ticket. It was on my phone, but I've never gotten a driving ticket. Never?

That's insane. Wow. Question number two. Does Peter Weber have a LinkedIn account? I thought this was a funny question. Yeah. He works for Delta, but doesn't mean he always has to work for Delta. If he has a LinkedIn account, he's getting asked out a lot on linkedin uh delta for life i

think i i think i'm i i think i still have one i haven't logged in and like you probably have a lot of people asking you out on like it's the new dating app is it right uh i think he has i don't know i think he has he but he he he created an account he knew since he was four he's gonna be a pilot he doesn't need LinkedIn, bro. He has the sky. I'm going to stick to my guns. I'm not as confident on this one

as I have been on others. Okay, what's the answer? You know what? I actually do have a LinkedIn account. Fuck yeah. But it's actually it was from a while ago.

My first job flying for MC Aviation and I saw it. Actually, someone tagged me in a picture recently. It showed Peter Weber MC Aviation pilot. I'm like,

I've never logged into that once. I don't remember creating it but technically I do. Oh, MC Aviation. picture recently it showed peter weber mc aviation pilot i'm like i've never logged into that once i don't remember creating it but technically i do oh mc aviation that was what we called a softball oh boy question number three the curveball has peter you complete the fifth weber ever used a sex toy with himself or a partner. Is that what it says? I changed it. You changed it. I like what it says better.

I don't think he owns a Texas. Of course he's used a sex toy. Of course. Are you kidding me? Well. Too obvious. It's not like illegal to like talk about this, right? I'm thinking for like employers though.

Okay. We're sex positive on this show, Peter. And I know as you are as well. It's not illegal to use a sex toy. Yeah. You want to change it to own? Yes yes she doesn't own a sex toy yes he does the way he lifts those girls on tables all right you don't like my lips all right i'm gonna i'm gonna say no he had he doesn't own it but he has used one uh and he might even have a favorite well i think he owns it but

he's not gonna cop up to it so i i promise you i i would i would cop up to that right now okay uh nick really seems to know me really well because yeah i i do not own one but yes i i have used one and uh yeah i was in uh yeah do you want to elaborate i don't i don't it was in the windmill no it's not the windmill i promise nope has peter river ever been in an open relationship absolutely not he is a one woman man he couldn't maybe this this tattoo on the hip girl though she was like i'll stay with you if we open it and then he did it reluctantly so i'm gonna say yes maybe he broke that's when he broke up her i'm gonna say this guy is a one woman man it would destroy him to have any thought of uh of that well does hannah count as an open relationship no okay no i i could never do that i could never be in an open relationship and i'm

really losing you're like oh for four right now do you not know me come on now i thought i did has peter ever been in more than two wedding parties in the past in the past have you ever been in more than two wedding more than two um i think he's 28 it has to do with his friends i know he's still in the place he grew up i mean he's connected to that community yeah la people getting married later in life oh i say yes for sure he's a friendly guy he is friendly i would want peter on my wedding party i would too definitely fun and responsible yeah um answer is no i haven't guessed yet oh okay have you been in more than two. Have you been in more than two? Yeah, you've been in more than two. Okay, we guessed the same thing.

Yeah, you guys are right. Thomas Johnson, Doug DeVries, and Ryan Neely. Three. Good job. You're a good friend. Last question.

I got good friends. Does Peter Weber own a power drill? And I mean an actual drill. Do I own a power drill but he lives at home so I feel like there's gotta be one

sitting around that home his dad owns a power drill yeah Peter does not Peter does not own a power drill that's correct my dad owns it

it's not mine Peter thanks so much for coming we really appreciate it it's been a ton of fun I hope people at home enjoy listening to you and i hope that you realize just how lovable and charming peter weber really is so take it easy on the guy on on twitter and i say take it easy on yourself

you're so hard on yourself and you're doing a great job and we're all loving it if you see peter on the street, with his permission, give him a hug. Okay, guys, I'm okay. I'm not depressed here. No, he's doing just fine. The guy was just living it up at the Super Bowl.

Yeah, life's good. His head's healing. Any final thoughts, Peter? Anything you want to share with the people on this open platform? I mean, honestly, I guess on that note,

just try to spread some love, like more love than hate. Like we all, I know this probably gets said over and over again from all the contestants and the leads coming onto this, but no one's coming onto this type of environment to do bad and to do anyone dirty. You know, people are lucky enough to get an opportunity to have an awesome experience and possibly go find love. And there's a lot of hate out there that I'm reading in comments for not just me, for everyone, for a lot of the women involved. And I honestly, I don't think anyone deserves that. And I think for everyone involved, for the people that are giving the hateful comments and everyone that's receiving them, it does better for everyone just to focus more on love than hate.

All right. Very nicely said. uh not you're you're seeing a character that's who they are but that's you know you're seeing a sliver of who they are so if you want if you insist on snarking and that's fine we all snark sometimes but just don't walk up to them and say you know say nice things yeah I agree it's very nice Peter we really appreciate it Rochelle any final thoughts December 14 2014 never forget December 20 2014 Peter won't

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