The Viall Files - E946 - Love Island USA IS BACK w/ Trey Kennedy, The Valley, Next Gen NYC Premiere, and Vrbo Horror Stories

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  LOVE ISLAND USA IS BACK BABY!!! And we could not be more excited. We welcome comedian, Trey Kennedy, to get into bombshells entering the villa, steamy... makeouts, and more! Meanwhile, we get into the most recent episode of The Valley where Nick shares his experience of Jasmine on his season of The Bachelor, and the premiere of Next Gen NYC. Is it the next Vanderpump Rules? The spiritual successor to HBO’s Girls, even? We discuss. Also, Nick and Natalie start off the episode with their nightmare experience with Vrbo. You certainly will not want to miss this one…  “It feels like summer is here when the islanders show up!” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Mack Weldon - Give your closet a breath of fresh air for spring. Go to https://mackweldon.com and get 25% off your first order of $125 or more, with promo code VIALL. Wayfair - Don’t wait! Make your outdoor space your dream oasis TODAY with Wayfair, and enjoy it all summer long. Head to https://wayfair.com right now to shop a huge outdoor selection. Mint Mobile - This year, skip breaking a sweat AND breaking the bank. Get your summer savings and shop premium wireless plans at https://mintmobile.com/viall Tonal - For a limited time, go to https://tonal.com to get FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS OFF your Tonal purchase plus a FREE FOUR-YEAR WARRANTY. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (10:20) - Horror Story (20:43) - Daily Dilemma (27:39) - Household Headlines (38:31) - Mormon Wives Takes with Trey (43:28) - Love Island Recap (01:07:43) - The Valley (01:26:15) - Next Gen NYC (01:30:50) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @treynkennedy @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell       

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Starting point is 00:01:20 Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and we are back in Vancouver. Natalie is asleep. Sorry, we had a crazy night last night. We're drama. Drama follows us. Yeah, we're drama. We want to be so simple and meek. And it just doesn't allow for us. We just want to be easy to be around, easy to work with, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:44 which I feel like we are. I't know some people would disagree. Yeah. Well, we finished our we finished our our work day yesterday A busy day. We finished a little late. So we were we were going from Whistler to Vancouver We had my mom we had River Nick and I it's like a two hour drive, hour and 45 minute drive. Well, we have to set the stage a little bit. We were planning on coming and making the commute earlier, but a last minute work dinner got scheduled. And it was important for us to be there. And so we made the executive decision to delay our commute,
Starting point is 00:02:21 which by the way, it just reminds me, I think I've told you this story before, but like I just- The butterfly effect. No, not that one. Okay. to delay our commute, which by the way, it just reminds me, I think I've told you this story before. But like I just- The butterfly effect. No, not that one. Okay. But. The other one.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I just like, you know, and when we tell the story- Next quickly changing a story, not that one. Yeah. Sorry, you know, I'm on like no, I'm on no sleep. Anyways, I'm just, I'm glad I get to do life with you and I'm glad that we work together. And we do everything together. I mean, that's, I don't know, that sounds...
Starting point is 00:02:50 We do everything together. We do everything together. But, you know, listen, when I remember being a young man, I was in my early 20s, and one of my uncles is a very successful businessman, right? And he was kind of like my professional role model. And my first girlfriend, drama, drama, drama, we broke up, got back together.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And one of our breakups, I was like sulking and my aunt came up to me and she was like trying to basically like talk shit about her in the nicest possible way and trying to convince me to like move on. And she knew I was like, aspired to be successful in business and be like my uncle and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she was just like, listen,
Starting point is 00:03:28 you're gonna need a partner who can be by your side at very important dinners. She's like, if you wanna be successful in business, you're gonna, it's a lot about networking, it's about you're gonna go to events and you're gonna need a partner to do business with type of thing. And I was like, yeah, but she's great, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And she was trying to tell me my current girlfriend was just not it. Anyways, we were at this dinner last night and it was an important dinner. And it was cool to have Natalie there because she's such a boss. And it really is true. You don't know sometimes who you end up with or who you marry, and you don't know how they're gonna handle themselves in certain environments with certain people.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And to be able to have you just kick ass in that type of environment is something I really appreciate. I feel like it's probably because I'm just like... Amazing. Well, no, I'm just like an old soul. You know, I'm just like mature for my age. I'm just like so mature for my age.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Like, I feel like that's probably why. Anyway, so we got done with the dinner. No, wait, wait, wait. We were at work and we brought my mom and River to work because we're like, we're just gonna jet straight from work to Vancouver because it's an hour and a half drive. We have like this Airbnb we gotta check into. We wanna like maybe run to the grocery store
Starting point is 00:04:56 to get a couple things, you know. We have to be here at the studio recording this episode kinda early. So we were like, that's our plan. And then they were like, hey, do you wanna come to dinner? We were like, oh, we really should do that. So we go back to our hotel, order room service for my mom and River.
Starting point is 00:05:12 My mom puts River to bed. We go to dinner. We're there for like two and a half hours. It's fun, it's charming. Natalie's making everyone laugh. I'm talking to people. Nick's being relatable. I'm being business like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:27 we're talking strategy. Yeah. And now it's like 9.40, it's like 9.30. And we're like, oh, we gotta go. So we go back to the hotel. Nick picks up River. She's dead asleep. He's carrying her through the hotel, down the elevator.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Me and my mom get the rest of the bags. We get down to the car. we put River in the car seat, we pull out of the garage. We were trying to figure out the maps and Nick's like, oh my God, we have no gas. Like where's the gas station? Yeah, we have like- Oh no.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, and well, if you're familiar with Whistler, it's an out of season ski town. And apparently, gas stations close at 10. It was 9.56. When you realize that we had no gas. When I realized we had 10 kilometers of gas left. And for all you Americans out there, 10 kilometers is like, I don't know, five miles, maybe maybe of gas.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Not gonna get you very far. Not gonna get you very far. That won't get you to Vancouver. Immediately gonna panic. I got my entire family with me, a full car, and it's like, you know, where do we get gas? So Nick pulls up the closest Chevron and he's like, oh my God, it closes.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And like, it closes at 10, so in like three minutes in like three minutes and I'm, we're six minutes away. We're six minutes away. I'm like, well, the inside closes, not the pumps. Like they don't turn off the pumps. Like you can still like pump your gas. So we go to that one. Nope. All the lights off.
Starting point is 00:06:55 No, no, no, no, no. We pull up. The lights are on. We pull into the driveway lights turn off. No, every, every, every screen on the pump goes, sorry, pump not available. Sorry, pump not available. And we were like.
Starting point is 00:07:10 There wasn't like an attendant there who like could just run the rules for you. There was a woman inside. And my mom was like, there's someone inside. So Nick like gets out of the car. He like goes to the doors. He's like waving his hands. She has her purse on.
Starting point is 00:07:22 She like goes out the back. Like she's like, I'm like, I'm clocked out, like I'm not helping you. I'm like, all right, so we get back in the car, I call some people, I'm like, I don't even know if we have enough gas to make it back to our hotel that we were staying at at Whistler, you know, and I'm like, I guess we're gonna have to wake up
Starting point is 00:07:38 really early to get to Vancouver, I don't fucking know, I'm kind of freaking out, but my main concern is I can't run out of gas with my entire family in this car in the middle of fucking nowhere. And just to get a mild complaint, Whistler, I get it. I'm new to your town, you guys have been a very charming, very successful city for a long time, so fuck me. But Whistler, even if it's off season,
Starting point is 00:08:01 is a very busy tourist city. There's like dirt biking and stuff. You know, it's not the middle of nowhere. You need gas for that. You know, there's traffic, you know, pretty regular traffic even at 10 o'clock at night. Do like, does no one need gas? It was crazy that they turned off the gas pumps. I've never seen that before. There's no open gas station in 20 miles, at least.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Anyways. And then there's this one that I look up and I'm like, okay, this one is two miles away. So we go to this one and it's like, this is like some construction site. Like, I don't know what the hell this is, but like, this isn't a gas station. Like lights are off, it's pitch black.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm like, I'm not getting out of the car here. Did y'all ever feel like you were in a horror movie while, oh my God, yes. Oh my God, this isn't a gas station. Like lights are off, it's pitch black. I'm like, I'm not getting out of the car here. Did y'all ever feel like you were in a horror movie while, oh my God, yes. Oh my God, this was a horror movie. This was absolutely horror. Slasher was gonna come out of the woods. I'm on the edge of my seat. I'm like prepared for a jump scare.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Oh, it gets worse. And so, this is just the beginning of our night. And so then, we are, I'm like, Nick, we'll just like, we're sitting at this like stop sign, like be like, what the fuck do we do? And I'm like, Nick, we'll just like, we're sitting at this like stop sign, like be like, what the fuck do we do? And I'm like, we're just sitting here. Like we gotta, let's just go back to the hotel. We'll sleep tonight.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We'll get up at four o'clock in the morning, drag the whole family to Vancouver, whatever. So we're go back to the hotel. As we're about to pull into the hotel, we get a call from someone who was trying to help us. And they're like, so there's this gas station and they give us the exact address to the place we were just at
Starting point is 00:09:28 that looked like a closed construction zone. And we were like, no, no, no, we were just there. Like, it's not that. She was like, no, this tow person told me that this is where they get gas when people run out of gas on the side of the road. Like it's a pump, it's a pump your own. Like it's like an old school gas pump oh my god
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm like do I have to siphon it out of the pump like what are you like okay like are we you have a thing in your mouth like a fish tank he's pulling it from the ground but we had already driven back to the hotel, so at this point, no fucking gas. And I'm literally thinking, do I go to this place that we were just at that didn't look like a gas station? On foot? Because we're not, if we go there and it doesn't work out,
Starting point is 00:10:18 we're not getting back to the hotel. But I call, so I called the tow truck place and they're like, yes, it's there. And I'm like, all right, well, I might be calling you if it's not, because I'm gonna need a tow. So we go there and sure as shit, like there were pumps there and it was definitely- In the dark.
Starting point is 00:10:37 In the dark. Just like, wait guys, I need a timestamp. What time is it now? It is 10.45, no, it's it's like 1020, 1030 at night. All you guys want to do is watch Love Island. So yeah, it's like, you know, and so I was like, all right, well, you know, it's going to be, we'll, we'll fine. We're going to get in at like 1215. Fill up the car with gas. All right. I had finally gotten River back asleep. So she was back asleep.
Starting point is 00:11:04 We're like, let's hit the ground running. We get in the car. We're going. Every time there's this crisis and every time the car stops, the River wakes up, she starts crying. So when you're feeling panicked and your baby starts crying,
Starting point is 00:11:14 the emotional stress that's creates is just, it's a lot. It's unlike any other. So anyways, crisis averted. All right, we got gas. We're heading to Vancouver. We are meant to stay. In a verbo. In a verbo.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's not a real word. It's not a real word. For those of you, it's not an Airbnb. It's like an Airbnb. It's like not a hotel. Yeah, you're like renting someone's apartment or something. And after we had been in obviously a hotel for two weeks, we were like, we'd really love to like have a kitchen
Starting point is 00:11:44 and be able to cook our daughter breakfast and lunch. So we ended up not going for a hotel for two weeks, we were like, we'd really love to like have a kitchen and be able to cook our daughter breakfast and lunch. And so we ended up not going for a hotel and going for this rental house. I'm already nervous because my team sends me like photographs, a QR code, all like pages of instructions of like, and it's, you know, I'm like, we're going to be getting there at 1230 AM. And I'm already like, this're gonna be getting there at 1230 a.m.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And I'm already like, this is gonna be a problem. The photos have like arrows of like which street to turn down, it's like this is gonna, yeah, we're in for a doozy. No, that's never good. When they have to send you pages of instructions, I'm not booking. And anytime there's a QR code,
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm like, I don't trust a QR code, give me some digits, give me a password trust a QR code. Give me some digits. Give me a password. Yeah. Give me a lockbox with a key. I want an old fashioned lock. I want a key. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Well, that's the problem when you have, when you become bougie and you have a team and people working for you, not you guys. I'm not, I'm talking as, you know, you guys are lovely. My other team, I guess, is that you rely on them to get shit done and then you don't pay attention to the things you like, you know, you guys are lovely. My other team, I guess, is that you rely on them to get shit done and then you don't pay attention to the things you, like, you know, like, I was just like, oh, where do we go? And they send me all the information.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So the first time we're even looking at any of this shit is like 12, 20 a.m. That's definitely our bad. We were so busy with work and dinner and river and driving that we just like never got a chance to study up on the instructions to get into this place. We didn't do a whole like pre-show plan of how to check into our Verbo. So whenever I go to log into the Verbo account to like, okay, we don't even know like the building number, right? Like we have the address, but it doesn't say what unit. We know the
Starting point is 00:13:24 garage in which to park, but we don't know what unit. We know the garage in which to park, but we don't know like how do we get the keys. So we go to log into the account and it says, the email account that it's under is Nick's team. And so it's like, please put in the verification code sent to your email. Oh no. The email we don't have.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Perfect, so we're like calling everyone on Nexteam at 1230. Everyone has their phone on Do Not Disturb. No one is picking up. We're sitting now River has woken up. River's woken up and she's like, I'm ready to get the fuck out of my car seat. She thinks it's 6 a.m. She's in a great she's in a mix of great mood. As soon as she is disrupted, it's like all hell.
Starting point is 00:14:04 All hell. Yeah. And she's going in waves of, hey, it's 6 for the day. As soon as she's disrupted, it's like all hell. And she's going in waves of, hey, it's 6 a.m. I'm in a great mood to, screaming like she's never screamed before. Yeah, so we finally get a hold of someone on Nick's team named Amanda, God bless her sweet soul. She, I guess, had woken up to one of our calls. Technically, she's my manager.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So obviously my manager would answer because she's amazing. She was definitely the most helpful of the group. Shout out Amanda. She said she woke up, she answered our call, she saw our pleas and she was like, oh I have the code, okay here's the code, this is what you need, use this QR code to get into the garage, we find the garage,
Starting point is 00:14:40 we're scanning this QR code and it's not working. Not working. To get into the garage. Aww, the QR code. Those never work. That's the thing. It never works, Leia. Thankfully someone is coming out of the garage, so we are able to get in the garage.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm like, okay, I don't know, maybe it was just the outside. Well, to get into the building requires the same QR code, and that thing did not work. So now it's 1 a.m. and we're standing scanning this QR code 20 minutes over and over and over and it's just flashing red lights. So he's on the phone with Amanda. He's like this isn't working. She's like I'm getting a hold of someone at
Starting point is 00:15:15 Verbo. Like I have to call you back. No she's not. She's on hold. No one's picking up that for about everyone is asleep. So finally I'm like we've just got to find a. Like at this point it's 1 a.m. River's getting like, she's done, she's over it. We have an early morning, like let's just find a hotel. So Nick finds, we were staying at the Fairmont Whistler. So he's like, okay, here's a Fairmont Vancouver. Let's just go there.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So we go there, all the doors are shut. It's all black. They have like signs in front of the doors. We're like, what? This is a hotel, right? Like, I don't. You can't shut the doors. Like what if we went out for dinner?
Starting point is 00:15:46 How do we get back in? So finally we find like the back parking lot and all the doors are locked and it has a big sign that says, at this time only registered guests can enter the hotel. They're like, press a button for the doorman. He comes out. He's like, yeah, I'm sorry, we're sold out.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You're crazy. So then I call every hotel in the city of Vancouver and every hotel is booked up. Vancouver, you're popping off. Popping off. You are booked and busy, the weather is nice, people are coming to Vancouver, congratulations to the Tourism Board of Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Truly. You're crushing it. Truly. You're absolutely crushing it. You guys are in a much better mood than I would be in. I think we're honestly it. Truly. You're absolutely crushing it. You guys are in a much better mood than I would be in. I think we're honestly a little delusional at this point. So I'm in the backseat, River's awake, fully awake at this point.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And we have my mom. So we're like, we either need like two beds or two rooms or like we need something. And every hotel is like, so sorry. Yeah, booked up, booked up, booked up, booked up. I call one, he's like, we have one room with two beds. Two double beds. Two double beds. That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Or the penthouse suite for 15,000 or something. And we were like, okay. I was like, let me call around a little bit more. I'll call you right back. I'm like, let's just see if there's anything else. Nothing else. I call him back. And when I call him back,
Starting point is 00:17:06 River's now screaming at this point, scream crying. And I'm like, I just called about that room. We're coming. He's like, okay, okay. We'll see you soon. Don't worry. And so we drive to this hotel and thank God
Starting point is 00:17:19 we get into our room. All four of you in the same room. All four of us, and I slept with my mom, Nick and River shared a bed. The Wedgewood in Vancouver, just a really delightful staff. This really very charming, very helpful. They did the best they could. So finally it's 2.30 in the morning
Starting point is 00:17:37 and we're in our room and River is like, the scream that she had going from that one hotel to the Wedgewood. It's terrifying. And I'm just, I'm sobbing, holding, like, like laying on her being like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Like, I'm sure you were just like,
Starting point is 00:17:56 what the fuck is going on? And it was a cry I've never heard before in my life. And it was awful. I mean, we were all so delusional. We were all just exhausted and like fed up. Nothing was awful. I mean, we were all so delusional. We were all just exhausted and like fed up. Nothing was working. So we finally got in that double bed and fell asleep and now we're here.
Starting point is 00:18:14 But I, you know, again, like I was trying, I was, Gryver was freaking out. I'm trying to calm her down. And like our whole like honeymoon debacle, we will remember this night, you know? There are so many nights, even like honeymoon debacle, we will remember this night. There are so many nights. Even like we talk about raising our daughter and all these memorable moments,
Starting point is 00:18:31 but the truth is, I don't know, do you guys remember three weeks ago on a Wednesday what you did? I don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, we don't remember most days of our life. You know what I'm saying? We are gonna remember this night
Starting point is 00:18:44 and we're gonna remember as a family. Like we like stepped up. Like you know, when you're driving and crisis is happening and all you have is each other, it really makes you appreciate what you have and like doing shit together. I don't, you know, there's definitely that element of it. Like that's definitely how I get through these crises
Starting point is 00:19:01 is like this is gonna be a moment that I cherish someday. Right now, I'm losing my fucking mind. Yeah. Wait, are you gonna get into this Verbo, or are we like done with this Verbo? No. We're so done with that place. I agree for the record.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. No, that's crazy. And it was a keypad. There was an option for an access code, and they just decided to give us this QR code that didn't work. And then no one wanted to pick up the phone. And it's like, we have a baby.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's still one again. And again, our bad for showing up in the middle of the night, but isn't that the point of when you travel? I wanted to get ahold of the man who owned that apartment building. That's who I wanted to pick up my phone call at 1 a.m. In the morning not some like worker for Virbo I wanted the man who owned who decided to give us this QR code that didn't work Anyways, you guys are stronger than the Marines. Yeah, Virbos and us we have each other
Starting point is 00:20:01 It's a really weird trippy thing when your child it goes You know We have each other. It's a really weird trippy thing when your child goes, you know, because like River was like also being super cute in moments and you're like freaking out and it like does calm you down for a moment. But you're also mad and you're like laughing at your child in the middle of a crisis. It's it's it's a wild experience. Anyways, that was our weird. We're just drama and no one's fault. I mean, Verbo, I guess the only person we can really be mad at is Verbo
Starting point is 00:20:26 and like that gas station who closed it down. No, it's not really their bad. I mean, like, you know, it just doesn't really make sense why Whistler shuts down. I mean, we can't be the first people who need it. Like, people drive through Whistler. It's like. I will say, I got a text from Natalie at 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:20:39 and I was like, uh-oh, what is going on? Did you get a refund for the rental? Working on it. You get a refund for the rental, right, so you didn't even use it. Okay. Yeah. Working on it. Working on it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They right now have a no refund policy. Well, of course. Oh, so. You would imagine they'd also have an access policy. We allow our guests into their rental policy, but they don't have that. Oh, by the way, we check into our hotel in this crisis, and like, I'm trying to like, We allow our guests into their rental policy, but they don't have that. 100% guaranteed. Oh, by the way, we check into our hotel in this crisis,
Starting point is 00:21:08 and I'm trying to, I almost feel like I have to explain to the guy why we're in this pickle. Am I just a bad dad? Did we not plan for this? How did we just show up and be in a panic and need a hotel room in the middle of the fucking night? So I'm like, we couldn't get into our, our, our Verbo. He's like, yeah, that's a thing here.
Starting point is 00:21:29 We get a lot of those. Right? See, this is why you need a company with a real name. You got to use a word that exists or else it's not going to work. What is Verbo? So true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So anyways, other than that, we do have a great episode lined up for y'all today. Trey Kennedy is with us. You may follow him online. He's a pretty funny dude. Anyways, he loves reality TV and he's gonna break down episode one of Love Island. It's good to be back, Islanders.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It really is. There is a something. Summer has begun. It really takes me back. I talked about this the other day on my TikTok of like nostalgia and that feeling. And honestly, like watching Love Island takes me back to the lake house in that room that we'd stay in with that massive TV
Starting point is 00:22:13 that like your parents took from some other room and put in there. And we would, it was like summer and it was hot outside and we would get in bed and watch Love Island and you'd fall asleep and I'd keep going. Like it took me back and I'd keep going. It took me back and I'm excited to be back. Obviously, the intros are really fun.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I don't know what they spend on all these licensing for music, but I'm so appreciative that Peacock makes that investment because it just makes it fun when you have all these mixes and soundtracks tied to these cast members. Obviously, it's episode one, so you're like, you're 40 minutes in and you're still like getting to know people. But like boy, once they get going, they get going.
Starting point is 00:22:49 It's just like, oh, and we're making out. Yes, this is great. We'll get into more later. We got any headlines? Wait, I'm screaming at this daily dilemma that Justin thinks. What do we got here? Yes, okay, can we talk about this? Because Justin and I got into,
Starting point is 00:23:10 you know somebody the other day thought that Justin and I were brother and sister? Aw. I mean, I love that. Look nothing alike. It's because we act like brother and sister. You brunettes and have a very intense dynamic. Y'all kind of see it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 We act like it. They have brown hair? Yeah, y'all looked more like now versus when Justin had like that purple hair. Oh, I remember that. Or the blonde era. Or the blonde. Justin, you always look good.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Okay, so talk about it. We were fighting about this. Okay, I have a belief that if your airplane flight is less than five hours, there's only three reasons you're using the bathroom on the plane. And these are the reasons. One, to take a nude. Two, you have an only fans. Three, you have really bad ideas.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Isn't that one B? There's no other reason. You can't just have to pee. You can hold it. Honestly? You can pee before the flight. I'm like, what is the reason? I agree.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Nicotine addiction. I agree. I don't use the airplane bathroom I go before I go after I can't get in there. Well, I will say if you are a Dad to change a diaper There is that Nellie wouldn't know I you know Nellie again mother of the year. She does So much for River there are the finer details of motherhood that I should know and I don't. For example, yesterday, before we went to dinner, River was upset, Nally is calming River down,
Starting point is 00:24:34 and she's like, can you order room service for dinner for River? And I'm like, what the fuck should I order? I don't know. She's like, figure it the fuck out. And I was like, I don't. I. He was like, what does she eat?
Starting point is 00:24:46 He's like, can I get the steak medium rare? No, I mean, I know what she eats, but I just know Nellie is very particular. And I just was like, I'm going to order something. And then she's going to be like, what the fuck is this? And it was, she got a grilled cheese. Nick ordered her grilled cheese and fries. And then I was like, what did you get? He's like grilled cheese and fries. And I'm like, fruit, a grilled cheese. Nick ordered her grilled cheese and fries. And then I was like, what did you get?
Starting point is 00:25:05 He's like, grilled cheese and fries. And I'm like, fruit, sweet potato fries. Did you get the tomato soup with the two in the grilled cheese bowl? Anything? Anyways, as a dad who looks for ways to help out my wife parenting her child. Changing the diaper on the airplane.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm the airplane diaper changer. And honestly, I don't mind it because every time I do it, I look like a fucking hero to the rest of the people on the airplane. I'm the airplane diaper changer. And honestly, I don't mind it because every time I do it, I look like a fucking hero to the rest of the people on a plane. It's just like, everyone looks up and like, that's a good dad, that's a great father. And I'm like, yeah. He does it from the ego boost.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Are you holding her like Simba? Yeah. I changed the diaper. It's really all about me. Can you smell that? Nothing. Yeah, for sure. So there is that. I will, has anyone pooped on a plane?
Starting point is 00:25:49 No. No. Yes. I threw up on a plane once. Oh, I've thrown up on a plane. But that's because I like, I got sick on a plane. But it was, it was a flight to London. So it was like a long flight.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Longer than five hours. So that's not longer than five hours and I threw up. Holding your pee to not use the bathroom is crazy. I'm sorry. Like it's not that bad to pee. Especially- So it's holding you to shit. It's only gonna make you constipated. For the boys, for the ladies, I totally understand it.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I would never, I would never, I would hold it. And go before the flight, after the flight. Oh, for sure. Don't drink water on the flight. I do feel like for men though, it might be difficult because of the turbulence to like keep it steady. No, that's why it's disgusting. That's why if you do use the bathroom,
Starting point is 00:26:26 you have to do it right when you board because it's like, if you go mid-flight, there's... It's disgusting. But if you have a morning flight and you're trying to drink some coffee, coffee is like a natural laxative. So you have shit on a plane? No, but even like, it makes you pee more too.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So you might pee right before the flight and not realize that you've had two cups of water and a coffee and you know, once you break the seal, like 20 minutes later, your body's like, I'm sorry, we didn't get it all up, you know? And I ain't holding that pee. If you're getting up during a flight and it's less than five hours, I'm giving you side eye.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm like, you're going in there to do something. Listen, I actually like disagree with all of you. You're going in there to hit that baby. I'm peeing. I'm not only, I am not only going to the bathroom once, I'm going to the bathroom at least twice on a five hour. I'm sorry. Am I crazy that I'm like, why would I get up to take a nude in an airplane bathroom? It's already uncomfortable enough to go in there
Starting point is 00:27:17 with the amount of space you have. I'm taking clothes off and taking a photo. People are doing that. I will say, Nally sent me a handful of airplane nudes, which I appreciate. Oh. Yeah. So you are taking nudes on the airplane.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I told you. Yes, that's the only thing you're supposed to do in there. The people who are doing their makeup or their skincare in the bathroom of the airplane deserve to be locked away in prison. You know, this makes sense, getting another team. And I say this with love to both of you. This is not meant to be anything but love.
Starting point is 00:27:46 There are four of us in the room. Leia and Justin. Because I think Leia has by far and away the least amount of shame on this team. So the fact that she's with her doesn't make sense. And Justin probably has the most shame. I take. Climb Cringe Mountain, mama.
Starting point is 00:28:03 No, I'm with Justin on this for sure. It's the best time to go. It's loud, nobody can hear you. I'm never gonna see any of these people again. What's the face you make when the person's standing in line? You're like, sorry. When you open that door.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Oh, I'm also, I'm really fast. TMI, but I'm fast. Okay. Yikes. There's an episode of the other two about taking a nude on the plane and then realize sending it to somebody, realizing it's a live photo. And then like it causes a bunch of chaos. I was just talking about live photos the other day and how they're terrifying.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You really got to be careful with your live photos. Wait, speaking of planes, did you see the Delta airline flight where the girl was singing Moana? Oh, my God. To quote Wendy Williams, how would you guys feel you see the Delta airline flight where the girl was singing Moana? Oh my God. To quote Wendy Williams. How would you guys feel if a little kid got up in the middle of like a delay? She was not little, she was like 14. Oh yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:28:53 She was grown. Well she was elementary school. And her mom was standing next to her? She was old enough to know that she shouldn't do that. That's terrible parenting. I'm texting about that kid, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You can't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Okay. Roll reversal. Y'all, someone DMed me and they were like, oh, I didn't ask me anything the other day. And someone asked, are you still getting crucified for your airplane tech story? I'm like, was I getting crucified?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Oh, no. For anyone who doesn't have a kid, they hated you. And they're like, are you getting slammed by the internet? Was I? For anyone who doesn't have a kid, they hated you. And they're like, are you getting slammed by the internet? I'm like, was I? Every once in a while, Nellie gets some DM being like, I don't know why you get all the hate that you do,
Starting point is 00:29:34 but I love you. I don't know why everyone hates you and talks so much shit about you nonstop and does this and does that, but I am here to say, I'm a fan. I'm like, okay. That's so weird to say. I'm like, okay. That's so weird to say. I'm like, okay, I actually won't sleep tonight.
Starting point is 00:29:49 It's mostly my fault because that was definitely, that was how people complimented me early in my bachelor days. Cause like people wanted to let them know that like, I'm the one fan that you have. You know, I wrote for you Nick. I'm sorry the world hates you. You should respond to my DM because I am loyal.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I will say shout out to all the people who came up to us in Whistler and said hi, who listened to the podcast and introduced yourself. It was lovely to meet you all. Thank you for saying hi. It was so funny, this grandma to a little boy who'd made of been around River's age, we were at the playground in the village of Whistler.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And she comes up to me and she was like, I had like said something to her son. He was like playing with River and then her grandson. And then she walks over to me and she was like, I just have to say your wedding photos, gorgeous. And I was like, oh, thank you. And she's like, sorry, that sounds so weird. And I was like, and she was like, oh, and I-
Starting point is 00:30:40 Yeah, little. And I loved, she said, and I loved something else that I did recently. And I was like, oh no, I'm the same way. If like people I follow that I see going on trips or doing something, the next time I see them in person, I'm like, oh my God, how was that trip with your grandma? And they're like, what?
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'm like, you posted about it. Remember? And so I'm like, no, no, no, it's not that weird. I do that to people all the time. But anyways. Couple of headlines before we jump into Love Island with our friend Trey. Jojo confirms she's in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, how do we feel about that? I thought she was supposed to do that here. She lied to me. I wanna say this very carefully because I love Jojo. I'm happy she's happy. She told me about it last week. My response to her, I was just like, are you happy? She's like, very, and then I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I guess this Chris guy, JoJo has nothing but lovely things to say about him. I don't know anything about him other than what is on the internet. His ex-girlfriend, what did she say? I think she just said like, she's really, JoJo's really famous. Which again, might just be, might be just be a bitter ex.
Starting point is 00:31:42 An ex-girlfriend saying something. Yeah, just an ex being an ex. The ex is exing. But you know, JoJo is like a little sister to me. And JoJo is 22 years old. You know, I mean, I don't know. Like, I remember being 22 and falling in love and having romantic feelings
Starting point is 00:32:00 and having people who cared about me. Like, you know, I hope Chris is everything that JoJo thinks he is today, because love can be blind, and I look forward to meeting him. And I hope, how old is Chris? Not Nick being like the dad of JoJo. Like, how old is this young man?
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's 32. I'm, you know, JoJo is- He's 32. Okay, that's fine. I mean, JoJo, let JoJo, you know, Jojo is- He's 32. Okay. That's fine. I mean, Jojo, let Jojo, you know, one of the things I loved when I met Jojo is like, you know, I met her on special forces, as you guys know, and, you know, there was a cast full of people,
Starting point is 00:32:35 you know, professional football players, NBA players, you know, Bodie Miller, Olympic skier, who was like, you know, Jojo was a leader in that group. She is, she is a very mature, very self-confident, she's a badass, you know? She's also 22, you know? And so like, in some ways of life, JoJo, she would make me feel safe in certain situations.
Starting point is 00:32:58 She knows how to handle herself. So I have no doubt about JoJo, but like again, love fucks us all up. And I'm, you know, Chris, I'm just saying, fucks us all up and I'm you know, Chris I'm just saying just treat her right around Be the guy you are presenting you are today Happy she's happy. Did you see Kylie Jenner give us the definition of girlhood? No, I did see her give us her CCS of girlhood. No, I did see her give us her CCs. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Which is a definition of girlhood. That is exactly what I, this is girlhood. This is what it's like to be a girl's girl. So this content creator, Rachel Leary posted on TikTok being like, Kylie Jenner, this is for you. We need to know what you asked for, for your boobs. Or if they're natural, like pop off. But if you got them done, like, please give us the details.
Starting point is 00:33:44 What did you ask for? What are they? We need to know. And Kylie did her comp- Like what's the recipe? What's the recipe? Which honestly, working in plastic surgery, there is such a recipe and like,
Starting point is 00:33:54 there's a lot of ways that you can do a breast augmentation. There's a lot of options. There's a lot of ways. There's a lot of like, you, you, and she gave us the details. She responded to this this to Rachel's TikTok and she wrote 445 CC moderate profile half under the muscle, silicone Garth Fisher, hope this helps, LOL.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Which was just like. Hope this helps, LOL. They gave me her doctor. Hope this helps is like so good. Like get ready world for a lot of. Get ready Dr. Garth Fisher because you're about to be real much busy. Did you guys see her suitcase leave it? So so obviously dating Timothy Chalamet, New York guy, huge Knicks fan.
Starting point is 00:34:39 They've been going to all of like the semi-semi-final games. And she posted a picture of her suitcase, which was like NYX colored lingerie. Period. Anyway, that really made me feel very supportive. Yeah. All of New York just deemed Kylie Jenner a new, a good luck charm. Yeah. They're like, she's in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:35:00 We're going to win. She would never come to Indiana. Like this is a, and unfortunately they lost. She also reposted a Kim Cattrall meme of her, from Sex and the City of Samantha being like, the Knicks lost, I'm not gonna have sex tonight. All right, coming up in a moment, Trey, Kennedy to talk a little Love Island,
Starting point is 00:35:18 and then following Trey, we'll get into the Valley. I wanna talk also just, we didn't want, we're gonna talk Summerhouse Thursday. I know many of you probably watched the episode last night, but I do, there's a lot of speculation about like, next season, what's the cast gonna look like? Who should stay, who should go? We're gonna talk about who we think of the current cast
Starting point is 00:35:42 should stay, should go. If you were the casting director for Summer House, what would that cast look like for you? If you haven't listened to the Going Deeper episode from yesterday, Dakota is on, and oh boy, is it a doozy. Obviously, one of the most talked about men on The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Also, can't really talk about it today,
Starting point is 00:36:03 but there is a big announcement coming out tomorrow that I will just say, I'm super happy and very cool to be a part of it. Many of you who are listening now know what I'm talking about. And yeah, it's gonna, I will say, we promise you fireworks for the 4th of July weekend. And there's extra fireworks probably for 4th of July weekend. Oh my God, so many extra fireworks. So many fireworks in the sky for 4th of July. But it was an honor to be a part of this project. So is Trey ready to go? Trey is ready to go. Well, it's the time of year where the weather is unpredictable.
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Starting point is 00:39:35 Thank you for having me. I'm honored to be here. Let's talk. Look at this setup that you're in. You're it's very red room. I think they say red is a color of aggression. Are you angry? That's true, yeah, you know, a little set up I am. I got some opinions and I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me on.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Thanks for requiring me to watch Love Island and I'm in. Oh my God. Is this your first time? We discovered Trey. We discovered Trey, We discovered Trey. He's very, very funny and social. Discovered does a lot of a lot of bits for reality TV. It seems to be also a big Love is Blind fan.
Starting point is 00:40:15 All right. Yes. Love is Blind. Longtime fan of that. And then, yeah, I made the Mormon Mormon wives. That bit. Yes. Man, that one was good. Yeah, we are. We are deep, deep wives that bit. Yes. Man, I, yeah, we played on that show. That one was good. Yeah, we are deep, deep into that show. Oh, you played a Mormon wife quite well.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Thank you. I think that's a compliment. I had my first swig, whatever that is, that like you put cream in your soda and all sorts of stuff. What did you get? A little bit of diabetes? I did, Texas tab.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I guess that's a popular one. I don't know what's in it. Perfect. But it was wild. How have you been feeling since your Texas tab? Pretty good. I have, my heart skips every night out of the now. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:41:03 You know, I just just crash but it was worth it I got my we yeah the Mormon I did the reading created their intro so I'm like in a pond in a dress and I live in Kansas so it's like a buddy of mine's like country friend I'm using this pond before we get in the love island let's say, since we have you, and since you watch a lot of Mormon wives, do you have any hot takes, faves? People, you'd love to stick around people
Starting point is 00:41:32 you don't understand. Give us some Mormon wives hot takes, Trey. Listen, now I feel like they're my friends, right? They saw the video they commented, so I'm basically part of the group. And I'm not that in the group, if you know what I mean. But I am a big fan, really of all of them.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I think it's interesting when they flip the villains on us because Demi, let's say you have to say it like that, which you see her real name is Demetria. They should have, they've glossed over that. I caught that. Need to know more of that name. First time I interviewed Demi. I was calling her Demi and then Brett, her husband graciously explained to me.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Well, her name is Demetria. And he's like, if you sound it out, it's that's why that's how we get. I'm like, no, I get it. I'm sorry. You know, so say your name right, bro. Yeah. In your face like that. He's a big dude. He is. He's a large man. I saw he was in the NFL. He was he a large man. I saw he was in the NFL. He was he played in the NFL unless I was he was in the NFL for a couple of seasons.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I saw it on TikTok. Is that accurate? Can we do a quick Google search? Someone like Google fact check try. But I think my favorite I love. Listen, I'm kind of a Whitney Stan. I'm sorry, but she wins me over. He was a quarter. He was a quarter. Quarterback or cornerback? Definitely quarter. The internet says he was a quarterback for the Oakland Raiders. I don't think he has the agility. He was a quarterback. For who? The Oakland Raiders from 2003 to 2005. Hey, I'm just here to educate. What? No, he was a quarterback at BYU and then after his college career ended, he became a free agent with the Oakland Raiders who are now the Las Vegas Raiders from 2003 to
Starting point is 00:43:11 2005. That's still pretty impressive. It sounds like he didn't like he had a cup of coffee with the Oakland Raiders, but still that's a big deal. Was he playing? Was it up? Was it his mission? Or was he on the team? That's something we got to look into. But I- Yeah, maybe he like- He checked out the locker room. Yeah, he showed up at the stadium trying to get him to convert to Mormonism
Starting point is 00:43:32 and they signed him instead. Yeah, I too, Trey, am a big Whitney fan. Are you equally as obsessed with her hospital video? You're familiar with that, correct? Oh. Oh, Nick, I'm very familiar. And yeah, I've watched that many times and you got to get a credit to go from to where she's at now. It's a miracle.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. It's a miracle. I have as discussed people we did have a very long night. I do need that pick me up, Justin, if you can go ahead and play that for us. This is a rite of passage for us, Trey. I think we could get into the violin, no? Why, but I wanna play this shit. I know, honey, but I just don't know
Starting point is 00:44:10 if it's in your cards for right now. Can you think of it and play it in your head? I'll do the heart for you. I could use the motivation to point to the baby at the end. Boop, that's my boo. She's like, and if you didn't see him, just so you know. All right. Love Island.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So you are new to the island world. Are you not a little bit? I've dipped my toes this first couple of seasons. You know, I really haven't since. And so if I'm going to come on the show, I better be up. Yeah. My wife, Katie, which by the way, what what's peacock doing? Would it take 45 minutes? I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I was sitting there refreshing peacock like I felt crazy. I was on Reddit. I was on Twitter. I was like following everybody else. I was like, somebody let me know when this is up. Well, there's an earthquake. I was going crazy, but it came out and my wife, Katie, I was like, hey, let's watch this. She's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And she immediately, she's like, what are we watching? And then like an hour later, she's like, Oh, yeah. I was just like, all right, I guess we're in, we're in. Yeah, we're trying to get everyone converted. I mean, last season was the first season for us. So like, it's, you know, everyone's welcome to jump on whenever they're ready.
Starting point is 00:45:24 It's just, it feels like summer is here when the islanders show up. And you know, I'm gonna give Peacock a pass. It's episode one, they're filming in Fiji. They got a quick turnaround. You know, technology is hard. Do you have the bandwidth tray for the 72 episodes a week that they release?
Starting point is 00:45:38 Okay, so that was, that alarmed me at the end. They're like, tomorrow night. My goodness. How many episodes? Are they all two hours as well? No. Are they? No, they're not that long.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They kind of change. Like sometimes they're 50 minutes. Other times they're going to be an hour and 10, an hour 15. It just kind of depends. It depends if they want to show us 25 minutes of glamour shots. Yeah. The slow motion videos take a minute. They hit us with a lot of B-roll man, but it was I because I watched an early season
Starting point is 00:46:10 because we had like a friend of a friend on so I was like oh we got to watch this. Uh huh. That's all I've done and she was she's kind of like in and out so you're like that's a bummer if you I'm sure you've known friends on reality show you're like oh and then you realize they're like a little too normal so they just quit early and you're like oh come on with everyone it's fun yeah i was very intimidated i mean that's why we didn't start love getting into love island until last year because i was like i don't have the bandwidth i just can't i can't do it but i don't know what it was but there was something about like as soon as it got done, I was like, I'm ready for tomorrow night.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And then you start, if you really get into a tray, you're gonna be like, oh, this show is filming right now. Like most other shows, right? It's like, they filmed this shit a year ago. Are they even still together? What's going on? And you start thinking about like, what are those little guys doing?
Starting point is 00:46:59 What are they doing right now? Like, is it avocado toast time? Like, you really start thinking about them. Oh, I didn't realize, how quick's the turnaround? Like is it avocado toast time? Like you really start thinking about them. Oh I didn't realize, how quick's the turnaround? Like 24 hours, 48 hours? Really? Yeah. Oh that does, see that makes it pretty exciting.
Starting point is 00:47:14 That's wild, I didn't realize that. No and that's what's crazy is like, being on reality TV is a bizarre experience but like you'll go usually, you're in your bubble, you film that shit, you come out, and then you're bizarrely back to your normal life, no one knows who the fuck you are. You're like, it just feels like you went on
Starting point is 00:47:31 this really crazy summer camp experience. And then it airs, and then that's a whole different another experience. These people, especially last season, when they got world fucking famous, they get out and everyone knows who they are. It's actually, it's kind of fucked up how. Like last season they had a challenge
Starting point is 00:47:50 where they read like tweets about people and so they were like learning what people on the outside were saying about them, which was like a crazy just, cause they have like no idea. It's like who does anyone, does people like me? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:04 It's a crazy concept But I do have to say that I think my favorite so far is probably Shelley. Oh, yeah easy, right? Yeah, I did like her and Bella first of all the spelling of her name is one of a kind no Bella Situated where there was gonna be a Bella be any Bell be any second situation where there was going to be a bell be any bell be any second. It's just bell up. But I noticed no one would kiss her. I guess she made it known. I guess that's within the rules of the game.
Starting point is 00:48:32 You'd be like, hey, don't just assault me with a blindfold on. I would prefer to take a minute. I guess that is allowed. I mean, her saying her saying that she doesn't kiss on the first date, Nick, was like, this is Love Island. Sorry, you have to kiss on the first date. Nick was like, this is Love Island. Sorry, you have to kiss on the first date. What are you doing? What are we?
Starting point is 00:48:48 They're behind the camera like, who got her? What is this? In her intro, she's like, I'm mature beyond my years. Or I'm I'm so mature for my age. I was like, all right. What does that mean? You know, like I'm an old soul. Oh, that's what she said. I'm an old soul. Oh, that's what she said, I'm an old soul.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. She likes old movies. I'm just shocked at the age. Several of them were 22. Well, I don't know, I guess when you get older, you just can't believe that. You're like, oh my gosh. They can't get anyone older to make out.
Starting point is 00:49:21 You're not casting 35-year-olds and saying, make out with two people five minutes into the show now. You know, like that's not happening. I'm requesting medical records. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna know your dental history. When was the last time you got a cleaning?
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'm not as carefree as I was at 23. That's literally why I almost never got casted on The Bachelorette because I was 33 at the time and they're like, this guy's gonna be fucking boring. And I was like, try me. Well, do we have any like men favorites? I feel like Ace is just loved by every woman there. He's a-
Starting point is 00:49:59 Ace and Taylor. Taylor. I like Nick. Nope. I'm a Taylor guy, because I'm an Oklahoma boy. So I'm all I'm very interested where he is from exactly. I think it was Oklahoma City, if I'm remembering correctly. Well, he's got to be something he's got horses. This can't be going to be somewhere outside the city. Do you think any of these ladies are aware of ace's Instagram following doesn't he have like
Starting point is 00:50:26 couple mills easy easy is very he does one show yeah He's a youtuber. He's this is not his first rodeo Shelly knows because even though she saw him out at a club or something I'm like for sure like they've they've DMed and whatnot so she knows how many followers yes Yeah, it was giving. That's true. This guy could help me be famous. Yeah, he has 797,000 followers. No, on TikTok, he has like millions on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He's like a TikToker. Oh wow, I'm on his Instagram. I mean, that's a lot for Instagram. I like him, and I like the love triangles that are already starting to form between Shelly, Ace, who else is part of that? Is Ulyssa with Ace right now? Yeah, she stole him.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, but you know he's not really with her. That's kind of the genius of the show where they like immediately make, it's like, all right, you're a couple, you know? Not knowing anything about them, literally at all. But like now that you're a couple, it immediately puts you in a position to look shitty, you know, because as soon as you start looking around
Starting point is 00:51:26 and have an interest in another person, you have to figure out, you know, what do I say to my girlfriend who I forgot her last name or first name? It's like, what is it? Um, you know, is it Tampa? Like, no, no, or um. Tampa.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Orlando. The names aren't easy, are they? Yeah. The names are not easy. Yeah. I couldn't believe the names. They gotta be stage they? Yeah. The names are not easy. Yeah. I couldn't believe the names. They gotta be stage names. Yeah, the stage names.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm like, where's the Sarah and the Aaron and the... Where's the name? We need like the name. Remember when we thought Kailer was rare? Yeah. Oh my God. I do already miss, fuck. Like what's gonna be our new, fuck. I'm really looking forward to figuring out what that's gonna be our new fuck?
Starting point is 00:52:05 I'm really looking forward to figuring out what that's gonna be. I don't know, I do feel like I kind of had the same like feeling watching the first one of like, oh, okay, like are these people gonna give and then obviously like learn to fall in love with them. I feel like that's probably gonna happen as the time goes on.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But I have to say Austin looks nothing like his photo, his little cast photo they put out. When he popped up on my screen, I was a little bit of a jump scare. Am I gonna good or bad way? In a bad way. Agreed, agreed, agreed. And then his voice only made it worse.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah, also you live in Florida and you're scared of bugs, grow up. That's all I have to say. Oh my God. Yeah, I was not a fan of his. I love Elandria though. That's my girl. I'm really rooting for Elandria and Taylor
Starting point is 00:52:53 and I've decided if anything happens to them, I'm going to be deeply, deeply upset. Trey, how do you think Ulissa, who else didn't get kissed in that last challenge? Nick, oh no, he kissed someone. Bella, like all the people who they were like, okay, you can kiss whoever you want and we'll block. No one will know.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And then they didn't get kissed at all. How do you feel like they are feeling? Oh man, well, that's like the media part for me when they stood them up and you can kind of, you know, even as a dude, I'm like, all right, those two dudes are, you know, those are hot guys. And that one maybe, and they're like, pick one. And I'm like, all right, those two dudes are, you know, those are hot guys and that one maybe. And they're like, pick one.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And I'm like, surely they had to tell him like some little kiss the cowboy. Okay. Because he can't just stand here all night. It's mean. And then at the end, it was, it was an Austin. He hardly got kissed, right? Unless I'm wrong. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I didn't know you're right. Did Nick get kissed at all? I feel like the ladies don't seem to be into Nick. I know he made out with someone. I'm into Nick. Also Florida guy. Just two feet from me, you just hear. No, literally.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's like, I feel like I would feel the air, you know? Like of my man getting up and moving past me. And then to hear, it's gotta be dead silent out there. Yeah. Also like the people's body odor. I'm imagining, you know, these women are gonna be like start with it. Was it you?
Starting point is 00:54:08 You know? You think they're sniffing them up? Blindfolds. You're not fooling anyone. Like, you know who you're getting kissed by. No, I feel like you would know when it's your person you're sitting next to. They should have put earplugs on them at least.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yeah, they would have. We should ask the Mormons. They did it. They did it. Ask them next time they're on. Could you tell? Because, yeah, I feel like you'd be able to. That's why I had that thought too. I guess they really, you know, we've all had blindfolds on for something as a kid.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You kind of peek, you cheat. I guess they just got an honor system. Like really, hey, don't look down at the shoes. I don't know. Those were like industrial goggles. Yeah, they're good ones. And they bring in the people at the end. And just new bombshells.
Starting point is 00:54:37 They kissed. I guess they sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. They sign up. I don't know. Those were like industrial goggles. Yeah, they're good ones.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And then he's bringing in the people at the end. The two new bombshells. I guess they sign a contract to make that legal. And that's funny. The bombshells are bombing. They're a couple of hotties. You know, we got a Brit, sexy voice. He's like a good looking guy.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And then who's the lady from Arizona? Charlie and Sierra. I feel like Arizona is like the West Coast, Florida You know, it's just like it's his a reputation for a little bit of trash. Is that is that fair unfair? Sorry Accurate. Yeah, it's like what's like the state with the highest STD rate I feel like it's got to be like Arizona and Florida like I would know the answer to that Definitely not Oklahoma. No.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Mississippi. Yeah, it's Mississippi. What? Has the highest rate of sexually transmitted diseases in the United States. Sorry, Arizona. In 2022. No, probably not. The 10 highest states, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alaska, South Dakota, Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Alaska? Those people can see? I thought it was like dark 98% of the time. Maybe it's highest rate, so it's percentage of like, you know. Right, so there are only like 10 people there, so it's like one of them has to be. They all got it.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Well, maybe in the Bible Belt, they're just like not practicing safe sex. Maybe that's, you know, maybe that's why. Maybe Arizona might be promiscuous, but they're also safe. Well, I am excited for this season of Love Island. I like where we're heading, you know, I like that they start off with the challenges, the messy challenges. I think both these bombshells are here to stay.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I agree. Yeah, I really liked that Charlie kissed Bella on the cheek when he came in and started making out with everybody while they were blindfolded. He must have seen their original intros where she only wanted to kiss the man on the cheek because when he kissed her on the cheek, I was like, okay, that's really nice that you clocked that that's her vibe
Starting point is 00:56:37 and you respected it. Respect poking. Trey, you're married, so you're in love. So let's say you meet your wife, you fall in love, you're early in a relationship. What breakfast are you making her to seal the deal? Oh, I'd go, I make a nice homemade pancake. So pancake over medium eggs.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Done this many times. A little sweet, a little safe. Yep, yep. Little, you can have some hot sauce in there and then a nice, I can pull a nice shot of espresso maker Americano. Oh my God, wow. It's the classic.
Starting point is 00:57:09 It's very talented. You don't go box pancakes, you go homemade, you go scratch. I do. Okay, good for you. And I'm a big advocate for that because it's really only like five or six ingredients. It's just a couple more steps.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's actually really easy. It's worth it. I like to throw one extra egg in there. Do you go also baking soda and baking powder? Yep, a little both. Yeah, he knows what he's done. Cinnamon, I gotta have a little cinnamon in there. That's a little.
Starting point is 00:57:31 They don't do the cinnamon. That's a little. Okay. It's just a little flavor. Yeah, listen, like there's a lot of cinnamon people out there. I'm assuming you do that the same way with your French toast.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Oh, of course. You don't put cinnamon on your French toast? No, no, no. It's. Wait, you're a new dad, right? I have a little over two year old, and then an eight month old. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Congratulations. Boy, girl. Thank you. Boy, girl. Wow. Do y'all have a little one, right? You have one. We have one girl.
Starting point is 00:57:58 One girl, love it. Girl, dad, girl, dad. Who's your favorite currently? My favorite? Yeah. Uh, probably the girl oh but the boy he's a little over two he's so fun but you know eight month girl it's just she just sits there and smiles the cutest thing ever right yeah she's
Starting point is 00:58:17 what she's probably what two with three or four months away from saying data that's gonna be solid mm-hmm that. That's, yeah, it's pretty unreal. And that's the material that was really talk. It's pretty amazing to be like, I, it was randomly to be like, like this morning he walked up to Katie's like, you look cute today, mommy. Like, this is unbelievable. Yeah. Wow. How'd you meet your wife?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Instagram. We love that. Who slid? We love it. Is that how y'all did it? Yeah. How'd you do it? Yeah, I slid. I love that. Who slid? We love it. Is that how y'all did it? Yeah. How'd you do it? Yeah, Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I slid. Ooh, I slid. She really wants me to say that because everyone assumes, but no, she had no clue who I was. This is seven years ago. So I had a little bit of a following, but still building. Wow, seven years ago.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah. She gave me a chance. I asked her out. I was in Atlanta where she lived, asked her out to dinner. And we just, it was one of those like eight hour date, hit it off. Oh my God. You go to Bucktown?
Starting point is 00:59:13 Is that one of those things? Is that where you go in Atlanta? Buckhead. Buckhead. Buckhead. Buckhead. You go to Bucktown? Yeah, I was trying to seem like a world traveler, you know? I've been there a while.
Starting point is 00:59:24 For sure. You went to Butttown, dude? You took her to Pound Town. I was trying to seem like a world traveler, you know. Maybe in there a while. For sure. You took her to Butt Town, dude? You took her to Pound Town? Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't ask him to close the deal on the first date. It sounded like you did. You take her to Butt Town?
Starting point is 00:59:41 I'm sorry, I don't know if that sounds right. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't know. We both made out with several people that night just to be sure. Yeah, you're like, who was the best? Who's love island coded? Where's Katie now? Is she taking care of the kids? She is, yeah. She was just taking our oldest to a little local little kids gym. That's what you do. It's so cute. He's working, he's learning how to play. But it's great.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah, I'm like, we have a studio in our house. I'll go up, have lunch. It's the best. So it's good. I gotta get the time while I can before I go hit the road and I'm gone a lot. Are you going on tour? Yeah, I am going on tour starting in August about.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Going to like 30 cities. So come see. Where can people get tickets, Trey? That's cool. tr 30 cities. So come see. Or can people get tickets to it? Traykina.com, easy. I imagine it's in your Instagram bio. Oh yeah, Linktree. You'll follow me, you'll post about it, sticker link. He'll click his links, follow those ads, use that code,
Starting point is 01:00:41 send his kids to college. The last year of the year is in Atlanta. Bucktown, hell yeah. Bucktown. I have two questions for the room. So in Jeremiah's intro video, he says that he's three out of four a good guy. How would you guys rate yourselves out of four? Why out of four?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. I don't know. He just said I'm a three out of four. Well, I feel like there's a huge discrepancy then between three and four or two and three. Those are small numbers. I didn't make up the scale. I kind of hate the good guy.
Starting point is 01:01:13 What is like, you know, like any self-proclaimed good guy usually isn't. It's like, no. Agree. Good guy's three-fourths less. No, I think he says he's three-fourths of a good guy. What's the difference? It's average, right?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Someone's like, I'd like to think I'm eight out of ten. Four out of five. That means he's not looking for a relationship. It's giving fuck, boy. I'm gonna go nine, just to be true. You think you're nine out of ten? Nine out of four.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Nine out of four. Yeah, nine out of four. Who's the one who likes, does Ace like toes? No, someone likes doesn't. No, someone likes, doesn't. No, one of them hates toes. Taylor doesn't like ugly feet. Doesn't like ugly feet. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Fair. Trey, do you have a, what is it? Not Wikipedia, Toepedia, whatever? I am on, I'm on Foot Finder, I believe. WikiFeet. Last I checked, one of those, yeah, yeah, maybe that's it. Last time I checked, I had a really good score. Can we look up Trey's, can we look up his score?
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yeah, let's. Actually share the screen, share it with the class, show everyone. I had a really good score. Can we look up Trey's, can we look up his score? I'm proud of him. Yeah, let's. Actually share the screen, share it with the class, show everyone. Some people like that. 4.9 out of five, I'll say check. Ooh, wow. How often do you check?
Starting point is 01:02:16 More than you. You wear slides a lot. You wear slides a lot, it's crazy. Oh God. Oh my gosh. What's my score? Gorgeous feet they say. Gorgeous feet, but where's the rating?
Starting point is 01:02:29 Gorgeous feet? Shoe size 10. What do I got? Shoe size. 62 votes, nice. Shoe size 10, they know your shoe size. It's 11. I don't want that shit.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Oh yes, of course. 4.95. So is gorgeous feet perfect for that? But Trace says gorgeous feet next to his. Mine's like unclear or something. Whoa, yep, yep, yep. That just looks like five stars, period, across the board. I don't know if I would be on there,
Starting point is 01:02:59 but if I would be, I would be curious. Let's see. Natalie, you're gonna have to wear more open-toed shoes if you wanna end up. Oh my God, I'm so scared. Let's see. Natalie, you're going to have to wear more open-toed shoes if you want to end up. Oh my God, I'm so scared. Yeah, okay, good. I purposefully cover them. No, I don't have an account.
Starting point is 01:03:12 They don't fuck with me like that, Trey. That's wild. That's like a recent photo of them. I didn't know people saw it. You're hunting my... Hey. They're watching. They sure are.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Trey, other than your website and for you people can buy tickets, where can people find you? Plug away, tell the good people where they can enjoy your content. Sure, thanks again for having me. Y'all, I appreciate it. Trey Kennedy's my name.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That's where I'm on all the things. TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. People sleep on Facebook. You'll just find it honestly on your For You page if you scroll. Yeah, scroll and the Treykinder.com. Yeah, I'm coming all across the country on tour. My third tour now.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Are you coming to LA? We will eventually. That's not on the current list of dates, but we'll do more in the 20th. Trey, thanks for coming, man. Glad to have you. Please come back anytime. Go check out Trey, buy some tickets, see his show. We'll see you soon, Trey, thanks for coming, man. Glad to have you. Please come back anytime. Go check out Trey, buy some tickets, see his show.
Starting point is 01:04:07 We'll see you soon, Trey. Thanks for coming on, buddy. Thank you all so much. Great to see all y'all. Appreciate it. Bye. Bye-bye. You know what doesn't belong in your epic summer plans?
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Starting point is 01:07:08 So one of them was, Huda has a daughter and she hasn't told Jeremiah about it, but she did tell him that she has a two bedroom apartment and he was like, well, what do you use the other bedroom for? And she was being really sketchy about what she uses the other bedroom for. And he was like, what do you use the other bedroom for?
Starting point is 01:07:25 Like, just tell me. Honestly, we thought it was like something like sexually dark. I did too. I forgot that she was the one who was the mom, and I was like, what are you using the other bedroom for? And then it cut to her interview, and she was like, I don't want to tell him yet that I have a daughter. I'm just like, what do you guys think?
Starting point is 01:07:41 Well, first of all, I mean, I think a lot of people who live alone have two bedrooms. I don't think it's that crazy to be like, what's your other bedroom for? Like, I don't know. Storage. She's crushing life. My shit, my stuff, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:53 A guest room? Yeah, you know. That was kind of weird that he was pressing her on it. It's not that strange, yeah. Calm the fuck down. As far as her not telling people, I think she has every right to keep that to herself. People are judgmental,
Starting point is 01:08:10 and they have a lot of different opinions. It's her kids. I think moms, parents, have full discretion in how and when they disclose that. Sure, eventually, minus it being Love Island, if you're dating someone in the real world, sure eventually if you're on like date four or Five like you might want to like tell people you have kids But I think if you're not comfortable with that like that's your call, you know
Starting point is 01:08:33 I don't know I give parents a lot of especially single moms out there I give them a lot of runway to disclose that that type of stuff. So I'm done. I'm cool with it I have no problem with it. Well getting getting into The Valley, I have a couple of thoughts. I think this was a performance from Jasmine. The like, you're a Karen and your vibes suck. And this was like, I need to stay on the show. I need to give them a scene. It felt very produced and like not genuine at all.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I feel like that's kind of why most people are not enjoying Jasmine on this show, because it just feels like everything that comes out of her mouth feels performative. It feels like I need a storyline. Well, 100%. But also, and they didn't touch on this episode, but of course they show us the preview for next episode,
Starting point is 01:09:20 and she's bringing up Dark Danny again, and it's like, at some point, like we've gotta move. Like this man has apologized several times. Him and Nia have gone to therapy over this. Like at some point you do have to move on. Like if you call this person your friend, like him and his wife, your friends, like you don't just like drag out this thing that he did.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I mean, what month are we in? This was in like last October. This is the ugly side of reality TV, which is why I feel like people don't think Jasmine's a good reality TV character, because it feels very performative. It feels like I'm saying this to be on TV. I mean, say what you want about Janet,
Starting point is 01:09:58 say what you want about Jesse, like, that's who they are. That like, you know, like them, hate them, like, they're great reality TV characters. The fact that Jesse obsessively wants to look like a good guy and he shows up and does what he does is like, that's what makes him a great reality TV character. Janet, like her hater, I like that she is on this show. She is a compelling character.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Nothing that comes out of Jasmine's mouth feels authentic. It feels performative. And then that's the ugly side of reality TV. For her to be bringing this topic up, something that didn't even happen on camera and trying to destroy this man's character for the sake of a storyline is crazy behavior. I was gonna say too, I think a good reality TV star,
Starting point is 01:10:42 their storyline is about themselves. They might be involved in other people's storylines, but it's like, I know why I'm following you. A bad reality TV star points fingers and makes their entire storyline about other people because it's like, we don't know anything else going on in Jasmine's life, but we know that she hates Danny right now.
Starting point is 01:10:58 That's a really good call because it's like, I would love to see Jasmine's relationship with her girlfriend. I would love to like see more of that side of her, but it is, I don't know if it's the editor, if it's just Jasmine, but it's every time we see Jasmine on our screen, it's her stirring shit or spreading rumors.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I feel like she's just a Lisa Rinna character. You need the person that's making other people's business themselves. And yes, they're crossing the line. That's disrespectful, Lisa Rinna. Well, that is what she did on TV. She's also not a housewife anymore because people got tired of it.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Right, exactly. It's like, show us what's going on with you and Harry. We don't care for you to tell us these details that we don't know if you're not gonna tell us the full story. I will say to be, I guess, the Jasmine defender in the room. I mean, I didn't watch the first season of The Valley. This is my first season, so I don't know,
Starting point is 01:11:44 I don't know what her role was in season one. It was the Danny storyline. It was the Danny. Okay. I will say like as far because this is the first I'm hearing of it. Like I think her and like the previous, I think it was the last episode, the one before when she was just like talking about her position as like a queer woman in a relationship. Like I appreciated that, like hearing that on TV, because I don't think that's something that gets talked about on reality TV a lot, and it is like a very specific experience
Starting point is 01:12:09 for like a community. Yeah, so I appreciated that, as far as like, interest in her, in like the drama of the show, I don't know. I just wish that would come up not in a way of like throwing her friend under the bus and seeking a fourth apology for something that he's already apologized for multiple times
Starting point is 01:12:28 and then on camera saying, you know, I thought I was over it, but like, I don't know, maybe I'm not, as if she's deciding not to be over it, just for storyline. Like, yeah, we would love to hear about your relationship and we would love, you know, the representation. It just, she's going about in a way
Starting point is 01:12:43 that just feels inauthentic and performative. And it's also kind of like, and that's it. I agree with Mary where I'm like, I wanna know about you as the person or your relationship and what else you've got going on. But I'm like, it seems like what's the ultimate goal here is like to ruin Danny and Nia's relationship. They just, they have four kids under four.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Like I'm like, why are we harping on this person to where it's like trying to be like, you're not the person that everybody thinks you are. But I'm like, why are we harping on this person to where it's like trying to be like, you're not the person that everybody thinks you are, but I'm like, then just don't fuck with him. Right, and I appreciated that she did have that conversation with Danny where she expressed like, That's what's so crazy. That they're all still friends with Jax.
Starting point is 01:13:19 It's like, they're sitting here being like, Danny who's got four little babies, then he's trying to have a healthy relationship with his wife, he blacks out, I don't condone that behavior, I think it's icky. However, I'm just like, you guys are friends with Jax. And yet we're sitting here being like, Danny is the devil, you guys are friends with Jessie.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Read the messages that he sends Brittany. I mean, on the topic of Jasmine, a video that is definitely resurfacing is her choking Nick Viall on the bachelor. We definitely talked about it. You know, we've touched on it a couple of times because first of all, I think it was like, oh, that's funny that she was on Nick Season
Starting point is 01:13:53 and now she's on the Valley. Like that was the correlation. And then now it's getting a little like, you're really pushing this like dark Danny, he touched me without my consent narrative, which may all be true, but then it's just like interesting because you did do the same thing to my husband when you were on his show and like.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Well, there's a clip going around of people being like, this is the same Jasmine from Nick's season. And like, you know, a bunch of people have sent it to me and like Jasmine's in the comments being like, this is iconic. And it's like, oh, well, since we're like Jasmine's in the comments being like, this is iconic. And it's like, oh, well, since we're just like not getting over shit, like why is this iconic? The truth is like, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:31 I know Jasmine didn't appreciate, you know, she got into her backstory. Like I did not appreciate the way the show like sexualized me on that show. So that's not necessarily the fault of the women. But like there was a great deal of the people on that cast that like leaned into that narrative. And the truth is like the way that like boundaries I had set communicated were like laughed at, ignored. Like if I told you like the
Starting point is 01:14:56 specific details of some of the shit that went down that I had to like put up with and go through in ways I was made uncomfortable, like Jaws would be on the floor. And I'm not here like you, bring up old shit for other people to deal with it. Like it's, it's a crazy environment. But like Jasmine was blackout drunk from like week four until she went home. And like so much so that after week four in Wisconsin, like she got so drunk and like did some shit that like I asked to like have her sent home and for whatever reason was told I had to wait a couple of weeks. In week five five when we got to New Orleans, I was like, hey, what did she have to say to what she did?
Starting point is 01:15:30 And I was told she doesn't remember. So I avoided her in New Orleans. And when we got to the Virgin Islands, when she choked me, after she got blackout drunk again on the volleyball date, and I was just so fed up with her behavior. reality is like the stuff that she is accusing Danny of her behavior and the way she made me uncomfortable was infinitely worse. And like, have I since like laughed it off or choose to let it go for sure?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Like, again, like I give all those people grace in that environment because like there's just a lot of, you know, who knows? I don't know why they chose to act the way they did but like again like in this performative behavior regardless of how I felt about her behavior you know or the fact that like I have decided to get over it the behavior itself was insanely inappropriate and for her to like push this narrative on this person who again we all know has apologized multiple times and she's accepted his apology multiple times and for her to keep bringing it up while simultaneously joking that what she did to me was iconic feels kind of messed up. There was also a video that I saw of her
Starting point is 01:16:39 like trying to pull you for like I guess it was like a cocktail party or something and you were with someone else and she was like can I take you you? And you're like, oh, she just like asked for me. And she was like, well, no, I wanted to. And it was like, you could visibly see you being like, I don't want to go with this person. There were several people in that cast who again, like didn't give a fuck about any boundaries I set or communicated. and Jasmine was one of the biggest offenders of that. And like, again, whatever I have moved on, I'm over it. But like to see her go after Danny in this manner while completely dismissing her behavior is fucking wild.
Starting point is 01:17:17 It also is just crazy to see her like, I mean, she's been friends with Jason for this long. And like, for her to act that way towards Jason and towards his wife was just like something I would never do to someone I call a friend. Like that's just like not the way I would approach a friend. It's not the way I would behave. It's not the way I would like speak to my friend's wife. I mean, that was like on all sides of the board
Starting point is 01:17:41 inappropriate. And like, I mean, I felt for Jana and Jason in that moment of just like, who the fuck is this person? Like, it was literally like they were like, oh, this person's our friend. And then they turned a switch and like created this scene and they were both like, who the fuck? It was like they were both rattled as hell.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Jason literally was like, he kind of almost called it out. He's like, this is fake, you know? And I know what it's like to be on reality TV and you realize someone's doing a scene. In Bachelor World, you feel it a lot. Where you're like, what the fuck is going, what are you doing? But I think definitely, maybe Bachelor World,
Starting point is 01:18:12 but you don't really know those people that well. Jason's been friends with Jasmine for seven years. It makes it even crazier. She's trying very hard to stay on the show. I mean, it is just crazy, as you were saying before, all of these people enable Jax Taylor and they're all like okay with the way that he speaks to Brittany and the stuff that he does.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And like, I haven't seen one of these people, granted like he's been in therapy this whole time or lack thereof, rehab or whatever he's at, but like no one, and I hope that we see it soon, no one has stood up to Jax the way that they like, quote unquote, wanna stand up to Danny and Mia and be like, your husband's so fucked, he's an alcoholic, he's this, he's that,
Starting point is 01:18:55 my ex did drugs and alcohol and I'm comparing him to, I feel like no one, everyone is like blowing Danny out of proportion while we have like Jax Taylor who is over and over and over again shown as he's a bad guy. Danny who has four kids under four, who's like, again, like his behavior was inappropriate and not okay, but like the way they are going after this guy.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Jax had to go to a facility because of an incident that occurred right before cameras were picked up. Talk about not being able to keep it in the box. He's throwing chairs, putting holes in walls, and then we're all just like, okay, well, I hope you're doing well in rehab. But Danny, father of four, he got drunk one night and got handsy where, again, I'm not excusing the behavior, but I'm just like the parallels that like we treat Jax who has even admitted this episode of how abusive he is to his wife and that he's just got used to treating her like shit.
Starting point is 01:19:49 We are okay with this person coming back into the group or giving excuses and allowances because he checked himself into a facility for a couple weeks, but we don't have grace for a working father of four trying to like maintain his marriage, provide for his family, got too drunk. At least he didn't actually do something that would be crazy, like I'm just like, he did. He put his hands on somebody, not okay, but I'm like, the way that we're making this out is as if he assaulted someone.
Starting point is 01:20:13 But it's also the constant talking behind Danny and Nia's back. It's like, I feel like a lot of people on this cast, and Jasmine is one of these people, do a lot of these, like, the drama happens behind people's back and not to their faces. And it's like, Danny woke up from a nap and was like, oh, everyone's mad at me?
Starting point is 01:20:31 Yeah, it's like, you brought this up to Danny, he apologized, and then you realized, oh, it's actually, like, I actually had a problem with something deeper than that. You brought it up again, which I appreciated, great. Yeah, it's like, it was a one-time offense that Danny did, and these people have watched Jax Taylor over and over and over again. Even the first season, the way he treated her at the lake house,
Starting point is 01:20:48 when they were all together, no one said anything. Like, they all just allowed him to act that way and to treat her this way. And so it's like now for them to like, for Jasmine to hold Danny to this fire of like, you put your hands on me and you made me call you daddy or whatever the hell happened is like not okay. He has apologized several times. Him and his wife have gone to therapy to work on it. Seemingly, he hasn't like acted that way again.
Starting point is 01:21:14 He like the last time we saw him get drunk, he put himself to bed. So it's like, how is there not growth? How have we not moved on? It is very desperate for a storyline and I am over it. And I wanna be clear, I'm not saying I'm not over what happened on the show. It's just like annoying to see her act this way
Starting point is 01:21:33 and call out this behavior with. Well, it's just hypocritical. And you've Brittany over here putting posted notes on her freaking security cameras because you've got Jax texting her being like, I can hear everything that you're saying. Yeah. She's unsafe. Like this is giving enough.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Yeah. And yet we're like, fuck Danny. But I'm like, Jax is okay. We'll pick up his phone call and FaceTime and say, hope you're doing well, buddy. While his wife, his ex-wife is trying to hide from him. Yeah. We got Jesse spending Michelle's money and being more focused on looking rich
Starting point is 01:22:03 than like providing for his family. We have him trying to veto doctors in the middle of his wife giving birth. But no, let's focus on Danny getting like too drunk. Exactly. It's crazy. But man, Jesse just not present in this show. He was in a little- Was he in this episode?
Starting point is 01:22:25 He was in a little flashback of what they, the cornhole game that they did instead of the beach. Give me more Kristin and Luke. Yeah, the one couple that doesn't make you depressed. Truly. Yeah, Luke's another, also I feel like a pretty stand up guy, I mean like, even Andy Cohen said, like the Valley is the darkest show on Bravo.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Like, I do think it's getting, like, don't get me wrong, love the drama, but like, someone who used to be called Crazy Kristin, who like seems to have done a lot of work, who has been vulnerable, we've seen her mature and grow on TV, like, give me some aspirational shit once in a while here, I'm just tired of the Jack Taylor check-ins where he gives us performative growth.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And it's so performative because we see the FaceTime calls and then we see what he's doing to Britney in the same day. It's like- And we also see what he's doing now in present day. Yeah, post-rehab. But it's also like, Jason kinda pissed me off a little bit with his conversation with Jax where he was like, and I get wanting to support your friend, but then everything we've been saying
Starting point is 01:23:27 of like, at a certain point, I think it's okay to cut someone off. And like, for him to just be like, I'm so happy for you. I'm so proud of you. I'm like, you're talking to Jax Taylor. Like, be fucking for real for a second. He's going to do the same shit when he gets off. Yeah. And then immediately you cut to the Britney thing of like, I can hear you.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And it's like, okay, well. Well, that's kind of what Janet was saying when we interviewed her of like, you know, he would have these calls with Jason and be like, oh, I'm doing so great and this accountability here and this accountability here. And then Janet would go hang out with Britney and she'd come back home and be like, well, Jax was just doing this to Britney and they would like compare notes. And it's yeah, it's like, clearly. Itax was just doing this to Brittany and they would like compare notes and it's, yeah, it's like, what? Clearly, it's just so, it's crazy. I do have to say that I did find it adorable that Luke was having a problem opening up the beach
Starting point is 01:24:14 chair, but it's like, this man is like building. He's like, when the car breaks down, he's able to look under the hood, but he gets this little chair and he's like, and Kristen's like, do you want me to Google how to do it? I just thought that was really cute. It's a stroller. He's just, he's a man. I was surprised. I hope we get Luke changing diapers, season three. Oh, I can't wait. I was surprised we didn't get any lala action at the beach.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Yeah, I didn't even realize that she was there. Oh, and then, and then we have Sheena talking about her hemorrhoids. Oh yeah. She is trying really hard. Did you see, she got obviously some heat from last week's jump in. And she gave, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:24:51 she was like in the comments arguing with people. Well the editors definitely did her dirty. They did. She definitely said something and they just cut it out so it looks like she's just standing there. There was one point where she went, and then it cuts. Maybe they did cut it out,
Starting point is 01:25:02 but it was so good that they cut it out, I doubt it. If it was worthy of TV, they would've kept it in. I don't doubt she said something. I don't doubt she said a lot. But like, you know? Like, I don't think that, no one's there being like, has a bone to pick with anyone, that they're gonna take out good, riveting content.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Because Lala Slade, and I will say, having Lala come back last week, I was like, you know what, put her in this cast. I'm ready for it. Like, do it. I realized I don't need to know that any of these people in this group do anal. Like, I'm good, you know?
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah. I could have lived my life not knowing that. I mean, let's normalize it. No, I get it, but I don't need to picture Sheena and Brock, Sheena getting her hemorrhoids, and then Janet and Jason doing, and then Janet being like, Michelle, what about you and Anal?
Starting point is 01:25:54 It's like, I'm just good. We don't need to put that on TV. Keep it in your friend group. Do we have to talk about everything and normalize it? Listen, whatever you wanna do, people, whoever you are, it's okay. You know what, no judgment zone, be you. If you're an adult and it's consensual,
Starting point is 01:26:11 have a party pop off. Period. I actually think we should normalize hemorrhoids. Don't need to talk about it. Like, again, we all have bodies, we get it, you know? Again, it's just like, T, M, fucking what? Hey, normal get it, you know. Again, it's just like, TM, funky line. Hey, normalize that between you and your doctor. It's between you and your doctor.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Yeah. Yeah, we're all humans. We all have funky shit going on. Let's not be so insecure. We need to blast it on the internet or on TV that we have to have everyone be like, you know what, same, I have an itchy asshole too. Like we don't, like, just assume everyone's butt itches
Starting point is 01:26:51 at some point in the day or online. We all see the wiggle, you know, like it's, you know, like you have jock itch, great, shut the fuck up. You know? You have BV, awesome, I've also been there once or twice in my life. But like we all don't all need to know what your vagina smells like.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Yeah, I'm sorry you're gassy today. You know what? Same. But like shut the fuck up. Okay. You guys. Well, speaking of funky shit, how often do you wash your hands after you go to the bathroom? Every time. So that was crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I'm so sorry. Missing my favorite show. Wait, we've got to preface it. This is Next Gen. Obviously, they premiered this week the new like show on Bravo. All of the kids of famous parents in New York City. I have to say, it kind of felt like it revolved around Brooks Marx. Which is fine. Which is fine. I feel like he definitely was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:46 the Kyle Cook of Summer House, you know? He's a little bit of like the, everyone here is like my friend I've introduced. I've made this like web of people. It felt a little, you know, first episode. First episode. First episode. But yes, one of the cast members, Georgia,
Starting point is 01:28:06 I guess she seems to throw a lot of parties in New York City, claims she's never washed her hands, she loves germs, she eats stuff off the ground in New York City. She's pro-germ. That's disgusting. She's never gotten a clue. And she said, my body, my choice.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I'm obsessed. She said, normalize eating things off the street. No. I have to say, Ariana's boyfriend being the heir of Zaxby's is like the craziest thing I've ever heard being from the South. I mean, all hail our Lord and Savior grace. I'm not familiar with Zaxby's.
Starting point is 01:28:41 It's like raisin canes, pretty much. It's like fried chicken, sauce, toast, fries, crinkle fries, you know? And I was raised on Zaxby's? It's like raisin canes, pretty much. It's like fried chicken, sauce, toast, fries, crinkle fries, you know? And I was raised on Zaxby's. And the fact that he is the heir of it. Also, I did find it very alarming that he's like telling Ariana, like now it's our problem, you sending your mom money.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Like y'all are dating, bro. Like this is not y'all's problem. Like it's her money. Put a ring on it. She already had her parents steal her money. She doesn't need you. Yeah, like it is not y'all's problem. Like it's her money. Put a ring on it. She already had her parents steal her money. She doesn't need you. Yeah, like it's her brand deals. Also Kim Zolciak stealing her daughter's money.
Starting point is 01:29:10 What the fuck. It actually made me kind of sad that she was like, and my mom's doing well and my dad's working. And I was like, oh, it is sad. I didn't realize she'd be so transparent about like parents' struggles. And I'm rooting for her. I mean, her parents, if nothing else, they are giving
Starting point is 01:29:23 when it comes to like having no shame talking about their personal lives. I could not imagine River getting older, starting to do brand deals in her teenage years, getting a boyfriend and then going on a TV show and openly having this fucking boyfriend of hers talk shit about us. We're bad parents if that's what happens. It's our fault.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I just, that's my nightmare. Some's our fault. I just that that that's my nightmare Some fucking guy talking shit about us on TV. I love my mother I I'm proud of the relationship I have with my mother I consider myself to be very close to my mother a bit of a mama's boy. No no shame in that Boy Brooks and Meredith they are close. They are close. That's that photo shoot. But the people love it. The people love it though. The people being me. Give me more.
Starting point is 01:30:09 I do love it too. And a sister. They're like a little tripod. Chloe, oh my God, Charlie, I cannot wait until nine years down the line when this show blows up and Charlie gets canceled. I hate him. Well, the show is the new Vanderpump
Starting point is 01:30:21 and Charlie is potentially the Jax. He's like a Chuck Bass in Gossip Girl. It's just like you say every inflammatory thing. To be a crypto trader that doesn't make money. I love it. Listen, I think I think this show has a lot of potential. Love a New York based reality TV show, especially since Rony is having its struggles, just like whether it's Sex and the City or Next Gen. You give me life in New York, like I'm going to give you a shot, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:44 But let's put respect on Vanderpump's name here. Let's not just call it already the new Vanderpump. Like, you know, these people have a lot to fucking live up to. Do they have potential? Sure, are we down to give them a shot? But like, first of all, we already have Southern hospitality that's, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:01 holding their own in that space. They're doing a decent job. Like, we need to walk before we run. Let's not crown them one episode. I guess they are around the same age. Yeah, you're right. I will say, maybe it's not the next Vanderpump, but I do think...
Starting point is 01:31:15 I hope it is. I've seen a lot of chatter online of like, what is the Gen Z version of Girls, the show Girls? And I think it is next in NYC. Listen, it can be, and maybe it will, and I NYC. Listen, it can be and maybe it will and I'm rooting for them, but to be determined. Well, part of me thinks that Bravo thinks it's the next Vanderpump because they did a cast photo
Starting point is 01:31:32 with like a web and they did that for the first season of Vanderpump Rules. So that's where I'm like, I think they know that this has the potential. I also think Bravo Nepo babies, it's much like sports Nepo babies. I think they just proved themselves on the court and the court in this case being confessional.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And so far, their stats looking good to me. All right, well I think that will do it. If you haven't checked out the Going Deeper episode with Dakota, it is out now. People are talking about, don't be the person, the one person in the world who hasn't listened to it. So much to get into next week. It's gonna be crazy. Thanks for listening. into next week. It's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Thanks for listening. Subscribe, tell your friends, all that fun stuff. We'll see you back on Monday. Bye bye.

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