The Viall Files - E948 - Love Island USA w/ GirlBossTown, Jim Jefferies, Summer House, Not So Golden Bachelor, and The Valley

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

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Welcome back to another episode of the Vy'L Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host Nick and boy do we have a lot to get into today. We have a great episode for you. The very hilarious Jim Jefferies joins us later this episode along with his wife, Taisy. Can't wait for you to hear from them. I do also have a story in a way. Also we have Girlboss Town joining us momentarily,

also known as Robin Del Monte, your internet big sister. I don't know, she's like trendsetter. She returns the Vow Files, we love it when Robin's on. She always has a lot of great insight on all things pop culture, and she will be joining us to break down some love island, which is heating up. Quick thoughts, are we enjoying it so far, relative to last season?

I'm enjoying it, not as much as I was season six, but like, you know, it's a hard act to follow. I struggle with some of the characters. Me too. I think we forget just how many episodes there are and like how we felt about season six when it first started. Like we didn't think about Leah and Rob

the same way we did at the end. Who was Jenae with originally? I'm just saying, yeah, so I'm saying it's so much. Connor. You struggled for a while. Connor. Yeah, wow, that's crazy. I think if you're going in, wanting to feel exactly

about these characters, you know, in the beginning as you did at the end, like that's apples and oranges. I don't know, I think it's promising. I'm a Love Island virgin, this is my first season. And I'm enjoying, like I thought I would. That's fun and silly. Yeah, I thought I would fun and silly yeah I thought I would be really annoyed at the everyday aspect of it but now I'm

finding myself being like oh it's out and then like turning it on it's really I'm enjoying I'm locked in well not only is Nick the host of the Vile Files he's also the host of secret lives of Mormon wives reunion well obviously why would you do a reunion for season one we're don't know, just, you know. We're gonna go back in time. You need to explain things to people. Anyway, it's very honored, very excited to be hosting this reunion with these incredible women.

They make the job easy. They are very giving and excited for you guys to watch it. It's a wild episode. The episode is in the bank, so to speak. I can't wait for you guys to see it. A lot to unpack. I know't wait for you guys to see it. A lot to unpack. I know a lot of people have some feelings about Demi not being listed as amongst the group of women

that attended the reunion. I will say that in a way, she is very much a part of the reunion and in a way makes an appearance at the reunion. She's definitely not forgotten. And in a way there. But she's also definitely not on the couch. No, she's not physically on that couch.

Hologram? Yes, a hologram. Yes, yes. An AI version of Demi did, they had AI come in and have Demi say, I'm the star of this show. But if you have questions about Demi's participation in season two, that itch will be scratched very much so. July 1st, right?

July 1st, July 1st. So we will be kicking off your Fourth of July weekend with some major fireworks, I can promise you that. I'm so excited, really good. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll get the edge of your seat. Do you know what else airs in July is Bachelor in Paradise? And apparently you guys have some Bachelor Nation tea to spill?

Well, many of you guys have known that ABC slash Hulu has not picked up The Bachelor, their flagship show. The Warner Brothers, The Bachelor Nation, the entity that is Bachelor Nation that's owned by Warner Brothers is obviously has been in the news in all the wrong reasons. A lot of disarray going on there. They don't know who's gonna be running the show. And Hulu slash ABC is like, they're doing great things. They got Mormon Wives crushing it,

they're producing other shows. They don't need The Bachelor like they used to need The Bachelor. This is my understanding of what's going on. And so now ABC is kind of like, figure it out, let us know. Could this be the end of an era? No, I think they have every intention of bringing it back. I mean, the next Bachelor season

will be the 30th Bachelor season. That's a big deal. 30th anniversary. And I think they have every hope and intention of bringing it back, but until Warner Brothers figures it out, about who's running it, who's show running it, what the concept is, they need to rebrand,

they need to refresh. Make changes. Personally, I think if we're talking Bachelor, there's a huge opportunity here to really modernize the show. Let's stop with tropes of the pressure that all these cast members have to have this sad story when some of them just aren't that sad.

I think they need to make it modern day dating. If I were running that show, I would cast 60 women. I would. I would announce the women. I would announce the women. Nick's like, I wish I would have had 60 women. I would. I would announce the women. I would announce the women. Nick's like, I wish I would have had more women. No, no, no. From my season.

He's like 20, 29 wasn't enough for me. It's not about that. It's not about that. But I do think they need to have the lead be somehow in some way a part of the quote unquote casting process. They need to give more shits about their lead liking more people on the show. I. They need to give more shits about their lead,

liking more people on the show. I think they need to modernize the show in a way that's like gives 2025, right? And when I say cast 60 some, they're already casting that many people that go through that final stage of the process. I think they need to announce these people much sooner than when it airs.

I'll put them out there, let them get messy online, and let them make TikToks, let the bachelor somehow interact via text messages. I think they should allow The Bachelor to bring a phone, not necessarily their phone, but like a phone. Like Love Island. In a way, right? Where the show has access to all the text messages

that are sent. So like the women could like text The Bachelor. Like send a little nude from the mansion bathroom. Maybe send a tinnilating photo or send a text when they're on a date. Maybe they can actually eat their dinner. Maybe, like you know how Bravo style where they go out and like engage with society?

Why can't the bachelor do something like that? You know what I'm saying? Instead of the like concerts with no one else there. It's like dancing to a performance. Like stop making the limo exits or reveals like the main focus at the beginning of the show. They can still do a funny thing, but like allow the conversations to start happening.

Like get these people invested in these characters far earlier than they do. They could modernize the show in the coolest way that would make it really popular. I don't know if Warner Brothers is, right? They're so precious about like the success they've had in their flagship show. They don't know if Warner Brothers is, right? They're so precious about the success they've had in their flagship show. They're so precious they have fallen behind

because they haven't had any competition for 20 plus years and now that they have competition, they have fallen so far behind. They have put all their eggs into the Golden franchise because it was such a major hit, the first season with Gary, Jerry Gary. Anyways, Joan season was obviously, everyone I think loved Joan, but now we have the new-

Joan Rockstar. We have the new Golden Bachelor, his name's Mel Owens. He was like a- Former? Former NFL player. Football player. Football player. He is 66 years old, and he went and did this random podcast

that like had nothing to do with Golden Bachelor. He was talking football. Like I don't even think anyone. I think he went to Michigan. So he did this random Michigan football obscure podcast. This wasn't like sanctioned, clearly wasn't sanctioned by like anything ABC or Hulu or Warner Brothers.

He just was a guy who's had a life outside of the bachelor, right? He's a football guy. And he went on this like Michigan football podcast to talk football. But now he's since been announced in cast as the golden bachelor. They clearly asked him about that.

So they said, when asked about his preferences and a partner, age was the first thing Mel referenced. I just said 45 to 60, just being honest, right? The former football player admitted. And then the process went and I was selected. Then we had lunch with the executive producer and I said, if they're over 60, I'm cutting them, says a 66 year old man.

Then he says, he says, oh no, this is not the silver bachelor. This is the golden bachelor, but they're going to be hot. Don't worry about it, don't worry about it, he goes. You can't use the word cut, I go that's an NFL term. Mel said he doesn't know anything about the women who will appear on his season, which films later this year, but said he knows they're going to be beautiful. As for other qualities he's looking for, the dad of two added they got to be fit because I stay in shape and I told producers try to stay away from the artificial hips and the wigs that kind

of stuff. Oh no. This is your golden bachelor? Oh no. What a nightmare. This this this Warner Brothers cannot get out of their own way. Well interestingly enough we talked to someone on the ABC side of thing and they were like when they were like excited the thing, and they were like, when they were like excited about the casting, and they were saying how they talked to Mel, and they thought, you know, I don't know, this guy, you know, he looks great for his age.

He could definitely date younger if he wanted to. So they had concerns, like, you know, listen, The Bachelor is, it's a very specific show. The Bachelor is, in a way, kind of also an extension of The Host. It's not just about you, you're there to tell other people's stories. There's other shows for that per se, right?

Like there's nothing wrong with an age gap. There's nothing wrong with if you wanna date younger at 66, do that. But like this isn't the show for that. You know what I'm saying? And so they had concerns about his ability to be interested and I was told that he specifically said to those people that he wanted to date women.

He wasn't interested in dating younger. He wanted to date women his age, so that he lied to those people to get this job, and now he's going on this other, like, Michigan State football podcast. Like, I don't know, bro. Like, just the bros. Just the guys.

Well, it's like, we're like, think about being selected and being excited to go, and then finding this information out and being like, great, so I'm cut night one, I'm 65. Again, Mel, good for you. If you wanna date younger, go and date younger. That's your life, you should do that. But like, if you wanna accept this role,

this role is about helping other people tell their stories, making these women feel comfortable, not shaming them for having a replacement surgery. Or extensions, like what? Or maybe like experiencing some hair loss later in life and like, you know, investing in a great wig and having them feel sexy about it. Like this is your golden bachelor?

I do fear that when, before obviously, I worked here and do anything about the bachelor, I found out about the golden bachelor and my friend and I decided to watch it because we were like, well, this is gonna be insane because what's gonna happen is you're casting an old man and there's only, you know, much love to hold the old man out there, but there's only so much you can expect of an old man and certain opinions on

things. So we were like, this is going to be insane. And then it ended up being very sweet. And then Gary ended up being Gary, but it's just kind of like this is kind of the core issue with The Golden Bachelor, right? Is like sometimes old men have antiquated views on women. At least Gary, you know? And it's like what can you do? Well at least Gary, he was great on camera. I've heard Mel's stiff. So not only is he antiquated, he's's not he's an old football guy He's not sure you expect him to be like oh, yes, I love

It's a mess you can't have him talking this way about her most precious entity It's the only thing they have left and it's so wholesome like that's what I love What exactly? Yeah wholesome like that's what I love about it. What? Exactly. I'm not watching. Yeah. All right well up next Robin Del Monte also known as Girl Boss Town joins us to talk some Love Island and then we'll get into Paige. We got some Summer House Shake Up. I want to also recast the Valley since we're talking about recasting Bravo shows. We have a new Beverly Hills Housewives. A lot to get into and later on Jim Jeffries returns to the Vile Files

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Third time's a charm. So I'm very excited. I don't feel like I've been. What's been your favorite? I wasn't here for either of them. Right? Well, I mean, we had the iconic Peter moment where he came in for the interview so sweaty and.

Oh, you were there that day? Yes, I was there. Oh my God. Peter from Vanderpump, Peter. Yes, during the Scandal. Oh. During the Scandal. And he was out there just ripping shots at 10ump, Peter. Yes, during the Scandal Ball. During the Scandal Ball, and he was out there

just ripping shots at 10 a.m. Yes, and then came in and just let it go, and I was like, okay, here we are. And I'm a VPR girlie, and now I see him at the Grove a lot. I don't go up and say anything. Sorry for putting you in that position. But it's so funny, because everybody in the room was kind of like, okay, this is happening,

but we can't say anything, and then he left me. We were like, okay, I think a producer came over with wet wipes and was like wiping down the microphone. I was like, okay, let's, it was great entertainment. Nothing, no hate to Peter. I mean, it was, he really let it all out. Um, so I think that was my favorite, but going into this and speaking about Love Island, I'm a Love Island girly, so I'll be excited to see how this one comes out as well. Well, you're like known as the internet's big sister. You made a name for yourself for the people who don't know, just making just wildly accurate predictions

about all things pop culture. Was your most recent one confirmed the Labooboo's? Labooboo, I predicted Labooboo's and Addison Rae in 2021 in the same week. And then both of those kind of came true within the same week, which I think you can say is trend cycling. But you know what, I'll give my prediction ability.

I mean, it's funny, I was actually talking to Natalie this weekend about Addison Rae, I'd be like, how did she do it? Back in the pandemic, you had this wave of TikTok stars, you know, it was like all these TikTok stars, they had just millions of followers, but like it ended up being kind of almost, for most of them, kind of worthless, you know?

And now most of them have just disappeared. These massive creators, but Addison Rae is one of the few who have made a phenomenal music career out of it. Yeah, and I was an Addison fan from the start. And obviously a lot of those TikTok creators who became big in 2020, became big half from tweens, but half from hate, you know what I mean? I feel like everybody was like,

what is this dancing on the internet? So the hate really boosted their stardom, which I mean is smart. But I was an OG Addison Gurley and she knew it. So she's like taking me out to dinner and we have like been in contact this whole time. And the whole time I was like, she's gonna be a star. Just when we'd walk into like Tower Bar,

which is like an old Hollywood establishment, the energy would just shift. Eyes would just shift, and I'd be like, this girl's a star. I know it. And so I'm so happy for her success. And I think her working with Lexi Smith, who's kind of like her muse, her best friend, her dancer,

really just helped create it, but it's insane. I also think Charli D'Amelio, everybody's talking about the Addison Rae Renaissance. I think Charli being on Broadway and doing what she's doing is like so admirable, so perfect for her. She seems so happy. So yeah, the 2020 girlies who like rose above

Addison and Charli, I'm happy for them. But yeah, it's crazy. I feel like Addison's gonna be, and it is massive. I say the same thing about my wife, about she's a star when I walk in her room. Yes, exactly. But you can tell what- She is a star.

That type of energy. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, pop star? You're feeling it. You're feeling the pop star energy. People don't know yet, but she's doing big things that I'm excited for people to find out about. Well, she is.

Yes. I do want to ask you, what do you make of Justin Bieber right now? It's giving a little Britney Spears dancing with knives. Okay. So another thing I don't know if you guys know, my Instagram started as like a Justin Bieber fan account. I don't think a lot of people know this,

like back, back, back in the day. And we are also just, you know, big fans. We were at a big Christmas party. I think I've heard you speak of this. What was your name? Was it different? Like, did you have like a- I won't say the name of what it was.

Okay, okay, okay. Because Bieber, Hart. I'm like, I love Bieber 24 7. No, but I was like there from Common Denominator. I was there from Mall Tour. Like I was an OG Bieber girly. My first time in New York, I was 28 years old. And my girlfriend and I at the time, we got David Letterman tickets.

We were true tourists because we stayed in Times Square. We got offered David Letterman tickets. We went there and I was like, who's the musical guest? They're like, well, yesterday it was Michael Buble. I was like, bum. And they're like, well, it's this guy named Justin Bieber. He was like 16 at the time, came out, Ben Stiller was like the main host.

And Bieber came out and I was like, this motherfucker can perform. And I was a fan since then. And then a couple of years ago, now that I went to a Christmas party that he was at and he was so lovely, complimented my sweater. I asked where I got it, was just an absolute sweetheart. Hugs goodbye was so kind.

I've met him and Hailey, and the kindest, sweetest, nicest people, when it comes to what's currently going on with Justin, I think that there's two aspects to it. I think that he is a creative genius, and he literally was playing the drums at age two. Like his brain works differently than everybody else. I truly believe that.

And I think when you are so talented, you see the world very differently. And then to go through all of that at a young age, you're going to have a lot on your brain mentally going through it. And I think that right now, what he is going through is definitely a lot, but I'm not gonna point fingers and be like,

oh, I think it's this, I think it's this, I think it's this, because I'm not in any place to do it. But I do think that in like five years, we will have the Renaissance of Free Britney, where people are gonna be like, wait, I feel bad, we shouldn't have been doing that. Like, you know what I mean? So.

He's been. I mean, he dropped Drew House, right? And now he has Skylarc. Even like the Scooter Braun of it all, like that man, in a sense, helped to like race him in so many ways. And then he fell apart with that. And then the Drew House of it all. And now he's with Skylarc and he's working closely with Eddie Benjamin, who is another like creative genius.

He dated Maddie Ziegler. He's an artist. And I just feel like he's going through a lot of spiritual awakenings, so we're letting that happen. But I'll always love him, I'll always be a fan. Meanwhile, his wife's a new billionaire. Yes, I mean that's also, yeah. Everything's gonna be okay.

But I will say, like when he posts on Instagram, I'm kind of like, okay, like I maybe we should put the phone down right now. You know what I mean? But we all go through those moments. You see me tomorrow having all my stories. Yeah. We're like, Robin, put the phone down. You put the phone down.

But you're right, I mean, as a creative genius, I don't know, there's certain things that like, it always reminded me when my first time I was on The Bachelor. You know, we expect a different from a reality TV star as than our major musician, creative geniuses. Like, we don't want our reality TV stars to be trendsetters.

No, you know. Like, we don't want them showing up taking fashion risks. Of course. It's like, what the fuck are you doing? I tried that. People are like, absolutely not. When it comes to like, hairy styles, they're like, oh, yeah, pop off, King.

Let's try that off. It's like a completely different, you know, we have to let our stars yeah, pop off, King. Let's try that off. It's like a completely, you know, we have to let our stars take risks. Yes, exactly. I also think when your creativity turns into a career and there's pressure on it, it shifts things. So it's like everybody's expecting so much of him and he's just kind of wanting to go through

this own journey. So we'll see, I will predict in five years, there's gonna be like a free Britney Renaissance being like, oh my God, like I can't believe we were that hard on him, especially after everything he's gone through. Any other kind of pop culture things that you're really focusing on right now or things out there that people

should start paying attention to? Okay, so a lot of people come to me as creative, predicting all these things, but I'm also just like a normal pop culture girlie. I love Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. I love all the reality TV shows like Love Island that we're about to speak about. But I will say with Secret Lives and Mormon Wives,

I've been like looking at it at a more granular level. And I think that Taylor, Frankie, Paul, did you hear what the producer, the director said about her? He has like Kardashian, oh, Snoi, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, reality TV people come and go, but I think that she is a star. She is 100% a star. She is gonna be like a Snooki, like a Kim,

where it's like exudes beyond this reality TV level. I can tell you because she's both a star and a professional. I said this before they announced that I was hosting the reunion, but like. Which is amazing. And everybody, I'm not sure, don't read the comments, everybody was like, this is so right for you to host that reunion.

I think it's so smart because reunions sometimes are just like to blow smoke up people's asks and you'll ask the questions. I appreciate it, I'm very excited. It's been a dream of mine. But before we recorded the reunion, and I've interviewed a lot of different people on the show or whatever, and reality TV stars, obviously it can be nerve wracking.

You know, it's like, you wanna make a TV, but you don't wanna be called out for your behavior, and Taylor came up to me and she's like, challenge us, push us. Like, you know, that was, no one's, like there's no reality TV star that I've ever interviewed other than Taylor, Frankie Paul, has ever like said that to me.

Because she understands like the assignment. She's not afraid, she can be authentic, she knows that she can be a little toxic and messy, she can be accountable for her decisions, and she's an absolute star. And like she's one of the very few reality TV stars I ever met with that type of quality. Yeah, no, I'm obsessed with her and I love how on the show,

it's weird because it's like, like you said, she can be messy, she can be drama, but you can't hate her. Which I think is like so- Because she owns it. Yeah, exactly. So many other stars will be messy and kind of like, and pretend that we're the ones who are delusional as fans.

And it's like, you're like, what? And Taylor's like, no, I'm just gonna, this is who I am and this is what you asked of me and I'm giving it to you and just, but she- It's her full transparency. I feel like a lot of the times housewives come on and it's like they have a persona that they wanna put out there

and things that they don't want to get exposed. Where I'm like, Taylor specifically, I feel like it's just like, well, here's my baggage, here's my drama, here's what's happening today. And like, she's not sugarcoating anything or trying to hide anything, which makes it that much more endearing. Because I also feel like a lot of housewives

have husbands who have reputations and it's kind of like, don't you go on there and like, aerodriid laundry. Yeah, and I also think that like, there could be a college course, there are speaking about reality TV and perception. Because it's like, at first people went on reality TV and they were authentically themselves,

like the Jersey Shore, it blew up. We loved them for being messy. Then there came the 2016 Renaissance where influencer marketing came into the picture. So it's like, okay, not only do I wanna be myself and get a following, but I also wanna be perceived as somebody who can like get brand deals,

who can work, who can turn mainstream. So they were aware of their perception. Then it kinda went in the opposite way where they're like, the messier, more chaotic I am, the better. So it's like, once perception came into the picture with reality TV, it shifted things and it became very difficult to actually be yourself

and be marketable at the same time, and she has that. Which I think might be the problem with Love Island USA, but we'll go into that when we talk about it. I would say most of her, Taylor's definitely top of her game, but to the credit to the rest of the women as well, I think as a collective that group shares that sentiment. I think Taylor might be the best at it,

but I think a lot of the women have learned from her, and to that point, they found a group of women who understand their job first is to be reality TV stars. And that's why most internet personalities, TikTokers, they've tried to make a lot of internet stars reality TV stars and have fallen flat. And these women are the exception to the rule. And their exception to the rule is because

there's so much personality behind them and they're willing to show it was where, you know, you go online, you can make a 15 second TikTok. You don't have to have that much personality. You just have to have the ability to like re-record it to get it right, so to speak. And then one last thing. So have you interviewed Brooke Snyder?

No. Okay, so when we were at that event that I saw you guys at, I interviewed her and her sisters and they have like a sister reality TV show coming out, to your point. So many people try to come out with these shows. The producers that I was working with after they left the room was like,

I think there's something there. And I 100% agree. And like, I didn't really necessarily watch Dancing with the Stars. I know that she was an influencer. I know that she was in that relationship. She's gorgeous. The sisters when they walked in had such

OG Kardashian sister energy. Like they were bickering during the interview in a way that was like so real. And like I'm one of four sisters too. And I was like, okay, I feel like everybody thinks this show isn't gonna do something. But I weirdly got energy of like, if this is done right, I think there's something here.

That makes sense. So I wanna put that on camera because it was literally, like they were, the way they were bickering during the interview was like, are you wearing my shirt? Like, you know the sister energy, but it was real. And I was like, okay, I think if they capture this right, I think we might be good. That's the point, right?

Because so many reality TV stars right now will not do that. They'll show up to the venue and be like, don't talk, I'm not here. And then they'll do some kind of forced scene. It feels forced and it's just like, that's what we're getting from the Valley right now. It's just like, what are we doing? Is this a scene?

I don't fucking know. So if that's- The Valley is a social experience. If they're really trying to do that, then you're right. Yeah, I literally was like, okay, I wanna put that out there. I mean, I feel like people don't have

the highest of hopes for it, but I literally, even the producers that I was with We're like, okay, that was energy. Like I don't know what that was, but that was energy Do you watch a valley? I do watch the valley. I think I love the concept. I think they recast most of the people What is your most most controversial valley opinion? I think most of them are losers, but isn't that what made Vanderpump rules amazing? No, because what van Vanderpump was a bunch of young people who like, it was the Hollywood dream story and we gave them grace because they were like,

now they're parents. They're like 21, 22 year old, be loud enough to fuck up. And when I say loser, I don't mean like, Kristen's on that show. I don't think she's a loser at all. We love Kristen Doty. She is the best.

Because we've watched Kristen grow up on TV and we've watched her be vulnerable. We've watched her account for her mistakes. Now she is about to give birth to her first baby. Her partner Luke is a stand-up guy, a good guy. We've seen growth, right? Jax and Brittany, they're losers. And I say that because it's the same shit over and over.

There's no growth, it's just the same darkness. Especially because it's recorded of no growth. It's like we have watched you for 12 years. Like every reunion it became the joke of being like, well I'm working on myself now. And Andy would be like, okay. And I'm like, here we go. Like the Kardashians, like Kardashians will show you messy,

they'll show you drama, but they are aspirational. They are not losers, you know what I'm saying? They show you the drama and the fun and the messiness, but you also want to be them. There's nothing about Brooks or Jacks or Jessie Lali that is aspirational. It's just like a sad, it's just sad people who can't get out of their own way.

I think especially with the men on Bravo. I mean, I think there's going to be a whole dissertation about this. I mean, Lexi not getting asked back to Summer House, I know people have different opinions on that. We love her. I like Lexi. I feel like, by the way, like in 2016, when I moved to LA before I moved back home,

I feel like I used to like see her out in the clubs and stuff like that. Like I specifically like remember her and I remember being like, that girl's like stunning. I liked her on Summerhouse. I love all the Summerhouse girls. I'm close with Paige, but it's like her not being asked back. It's like, okay, I'm not a producer.

I don't get this. But the men that just continue to get asked back on Bravo, I'm like, I don't wanna start the like Andy favors men rhetoric, but it's kind of like, why are we putting all these men in Bravo in such a position of power? And then being like, oh my God, I can't believe they did that to their wives in Bravo.

Yeah, yeah. Just like we're putting them there by the way guys. Like we're literally putting them in this position. And I think, especially when it comes to the Valley, it's like, no, no, no, like they're old and they're still doing this and we're eating it up, question mark. Like, I agree.

I think it's weird, but I love Kristen. She's like a Taylor, Frankie, Paul. Like where it's like, I'm gonna be messy and like literally be messy, but then it's somewhat weirdly lovable. Cause she has a good heart, you know? And she always has, and she always has, I agree. I would put Lala back on the Valley.

She has an interesting backstory. She's definitely not a loser. Lala right now, yeah, her like living in this, what she calls like her pod with her mom and her brother, like raising her two children is like such a cool dynamic. She shows growth. She might make mistakes, she might like fuck up, but like she, you know, there's just.

I need someone who can put somebody in their place on that show. Yeah. And I feel like Lala's the only one that can do that. And they're having like Brittany do that, and it's like, this is not. It's too heightened, it's too emotional. Every time she speaks up and calls someone out,

I'm like, deal with your shit first. I don't like, you're too tragic to like call anyone out. And like I give grace too, it's like, I've had addiction in my family, I can't even imagine dealing with that, but it's exactly, it's like let's maybe turn inward and kind of just figure this out. Because it's like, you feel bad for her, but then she says things like,

I kind of wanted him to fight for me. It's like, babe, fight for you. No, I know. You gotta get out of there. Like you're shocked he didn't pay rent? Yeah. Who, who, who? And I think there's ways to show addiction on Bravo

and to show kind of like dysfunctional, like Mary Cosby, I don't know if you guys watch it. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Like Mary Cosby and her son, like that was- That was so brave. Genuinely, it's close to home, to me and my family's situation.

I was like, this is such a respectful way of doing this, but also letting the audience in, which is like so vulnerable. And like, I respect how that whole situation was like, this is such a respectful way of doing this, but also letting the audience in, which is so vulnerable. And I respect how that whole situation was done, but now it's being used as, not Utah, but the Valley, it's being used as a drama indicator. And it's like, that shouldn't be pointed at as like, oh my God, this drama next week.

It's like, no, that should be like, that's sad. Let's not do that. You know what I mean? I don't know. I completely agree with you. But props to Paige, I mean I love someone who leaves out on top. The best and Paige, I did a long, long audition process

with her for something for like a year and we had a bunch of chemistry reads and she is somebody that is completely herself and the cameras are on, off, she has the it factor, I think that her PJ line, Daphne, like I obviously when influencers or creators come out with lines, we're like, oh, it's another one. I think it's gonna be very big.

Like a base, like a road. I think she's business savvy. I love her and I love somebody who goes out on top. I love it. Cause you have to know. And she didn't make it like, this is my last season. The whole season, she was kind of like, okay, so I did that and I'm leaving. And it makes sense,

because it's like she wants to sit in bed, like I fucking do too. Like, I'm not gonna go to a party house. You know what I mean? Right, right. But where does Summerhouse go from here? Like, Carl did not leave. There was like a fake announcement.

I was actually happy for Carl when I saw the fake announcement. After watching the Lexi and Jesse of it all wrap up of part one and bled it into part two, there wasn't like, I wasn't that interested in the rest of part two. There's no Amanda and Kyle, like will they, won't they have a kid someday?

Again, that's just, I've been, you know. Yeah, I think that, I heard, I saw on Brianna Chicken Fry's TikTok or story that she was talking to Summer house people at one point. But I think there's a way in which, I think Danny Pellegrino said it, have a Sex in the City-like show with the people in the city during the week,

running businesses, having drama. I would watch that. Whenever they're in the city, they're doing more than when they're in the Hamptons, and they can film more places, and then do a separate summer house that's kind of like more of a love Island audience, like a not younger, but like a, I want to go out and be messy, which is like hooked up with people and then stop and go for the

other guy in the house. Right, right, right. I think it needs to be that. I think it's okay to also say younger too, because I'm like, we grew up with the cast, it's what, 10 seasons, nine seasons in, and then I'm like, they're all well in their 30s, they're established, they're having kids, they're getting married, they're starting businesses,

that I'm like, that's the real stuff that we would wanna be seeing in our demographic, but I feel like when I started watching the show, I was in their age demographic, and I was like, yes, party, the mess, the making out in the pantry. And I've never been to the Hamptons, but I watch the Hamptons every weekend

on my Instagram stories from every influencer. So it's like, there's an audience out there who's doing that stuff. 100%. You know what I mean? Surf Lodge is pumping. I know Surf Lodge has those chicken tender towers. I've never been there.

Because I watch it on my stories. I've never been to the Hamptons either. I haven't either. We should all take a trip to the Hamptons. I hate waiting in line, and not in a pretentious way, but in a way where it's like, okay, waiting in line for two hours and then you go and stand in a room and you're like, okay, well, what am I really doing? And then I hear everything's really far away.

It kind of reminds me of a stagecoach or a Coachella where the parties are an hour away where it's like, okay, this is, I like my bed, I like the comfort. Inconvenient fun. Yeah, inconvenient fun. Or it's like, the pregame is always more fun than the event. Yeah. Because then you're like in the Uber on the way there

and you're like, so very much fun. Sobering up. Like, you know what I mean? You're just like, yeah. And then you get there and you're like, what am I doing? Did anyone watch Sirens? Yes, I did. Oh my god, we just finished it last night.

We just finished it last night. I think it was so, also the- The second to last episode was awesome. I didn't love the ending though. The actress from the UK who was in House of the Dragon, she's the younger sister. Her name's Simone. Simone, yeah.

I don't know if you see it in her interviews. She's British. She's British, yeah. And she's also like the complete opposite of her character. She's so, like in interviews, somebody will be like, when you signed up for House of the Dragon, do you think it's gonna be like Game of Thrones? She's like not really like I Did anybody say we were trying to be like that? I don't know like whatever she's so not media trained in the best way She's definitely gonna and she's gonna she's playing Supergirl. I'm not into Marvel or those like superhero movies

But I think she's gonna have like a big Jennifer Lawrence I'm relatable on a carpet and I'm a good actress. Rice, the fame. And I'm here for that for her. I like her. Did you just see, they just posted a Harris Dickinson doing the road mist spray campaign. No!

Oh my God, I didn't see that. I like him. I like him too. Is he gonna be in the new Beatles movie, I believe? I believe so. I actually, yeah. Which I'm so excited for, because I'm a Paul Mezcal girlie.

The freestyle. And speaking of the UK, and speaking of Love Island, I literally want, I wanna move to the UK more than anything. I love it there. I try to go as much as I can. And I think JoJo Siwa being a UK TV personality

makes the most sense of anything I've ever seen in my life. The Chris Hughes of it all, I'm sure you guys will hang out with Chris Hughes or have met him. I was an OG Chris Hughes fan. I watched Love Island season three live. So what do you think of this relationship? Okay, so I just-

His ex came out and said she's really famous. That was her response. Olivia was Olivia the ex- Probably, so I love Olivia. I'm an OG Love Island UK girl, so his season, I don't know if you guys have watched it, you need to go and watch it, so if you get like, have surgery or get your tonsils out,

it's a good one where you can sit and just watch the whole thing. It shifted the tone of Love Island forever in a positive way, it's so good. I think the relationship is a little weird, but I'm happy because I think she belongs in the UK, especially from a media perspective I feel like in the UK being weird and quirky and yourself and creative and changing all the time is like people eat that up Like yeah, yeah, it's not looked up as like oh my god, like that's weird. They're like, okay, cool

Anyways, let's go to the pub. Like I don't really give a shit, but this is entertaining Like you know what I mean? They went like dive into like she wore that that that that uh, um So I'm happy for her I do think it's a little weird just cuz like I love dance moms and I love love Island UK You know what I mean? They went like dive into like, she wore that, that, that, that, that. So I'm happy for her. I do think it's a little weird just cause like, I love dance moms and I love Love Island UK. And I'm thinking at the times that those came out, I'm like, I would have literally never in a million years

put this together, but I'm happy. I think that it's so smart and not that it was planned. You know what I mean? For her to be a big UK TV personality, but it makes so much sense. Yeah. So much sense. She seems really happy. And I don't blame her for wanting to be there.

She does seem happy, yeah. Yeah, I, it's just. I look forward to meeting him. You guys need to watch Love Island season three. No, yeah, we do. It shifted everything, because before that, Love Island was a raunchy, raunchy show. People would hook up on top of the beds

and everybody would stand around and watch. Like it was so raunchy. What? And they would drink, they would drink all day, smoke cigarettes. And then Love Island season three became so big because of the cast. The cast from that all became household names,

major media stars. Chris's ex is like a huge, huge, huge TV personality. So they changed the age, like level or grade of the TV show. So more families could watch it after that season because it became so big, and that's why they can't smoke cigarettes on screen anymore over there, and don't drink as much, because that season was so big.

But watch it, it's incredible. Well, this is a great segue to get into Love Island. So obviously we have the beginning of season seven. Season six was an absolute behemoth. What are you thinking so far? Do you think it's living up to the hope and hype? It's more hope, I guess, than hype, just obviously because season six was such an anomaly.

I'm watching it early on, pretty optimistic, and I'm trying to have patience, because one, there's so many episodes. I think we forget how much time it takes for some character arcs to happen. We didn't think of Leah and Rob in the beginning of the season of season six as we thought of them at the end of season six.

There was a lot of who are these people, I'm not sure, Rob caught some heat from jumping in the pool, yada, yada, yada, it took some time. What are your thoughts? So as a Love Island enthusiast, I've watched all of UK, all of Australia, now US. I got flown to Fiji in 2023 when they were really trying to push Love Island USA. I went to the villa, I talked to the showrunners, I saw how the sauce was made, and I gave my

point of view of what I think could happen or should be done, and then Love Island USA exploded. I'm happy for it. But my point to that is there's a formula to Love Island. And I think audiences from the USA aren't used to that. So they're like, wait, why isn't this like last season? Like, there's a formula. You have to wait it out.

Seasons, I mean, weeks three and four always pop off. They cast out more of it all. So although it's you can't and you also can't compare seasons. Like Love Island UK is every season is different for a reason, but that's what makes it great. I will say when I tell people in the UK, I love Love Island, they're like, oh, that's yeah, I watch it too, but it's kind of like a Jersey shorts,

still kind of seen as like not trashy, but like, oh, that's like reality TV, which is what makes it good. Cause the people who go on aren't like, I'm a brand. Yeah. And I think the USA is already turning into people coming on being like, I'm a brand, which is my biggest critique. I mean, Ace is a YouTube star. Yeah.

And they did pick people for the most part who have like lower following, but you could tell they're all, I'm a star already, which is like my biggest critique about USA. I think it'll be good. I'm always like Love Island USA, not a hater, but like I'm very critical and I tell everybody, I'm like, please watch UK and then watch USA

to really understand it and take it in. But I think there's stuff there. I think there's meat there. And I think the first, I liked the first week and like, I'm kind of like a hater when it comes to USA and I was enjoying it. I mean, I thought the first elimination had way more stakes than I was expecting.

Like usually the first couple eliminations, you're like, nah, yeah, it was kind of obvious. But between Beldasha. Beldasha. Beldasha. She had star potential. I have something to say about Beldasha. Her thing on Instagram is Isabelle Anne.

So I'm like, is the A? Rebrand. Rebrand. She's rebranding. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, was that purposeful? Here's what's going to happen with Beldasha. And you can literally put millions of dollars on it.

She's going to come back as a Casa Amor girl. It's going to be, this week they're going to bring in something, somebody for Sierra. That's going to like be like, Oh, so his name's Nick, right? They're going to, somebody for Sierra that's gonna like be like, Oh, so what is his name? Nick, right? They're gonna make Nick's now gonna be like, well, I know what I put you through and I really do want to be with you

and she's like, well, you didn't pick me right away. So I have to explore my options. She's gonna have a guy she's gonna pick him at the end. Then the third new guy, Nick, the third week is gonna be them. Okay, now we can finally be together now that we don't have two other people in the picture. Fourth week is going to be Casa Moore.

They're going to bring in Beldasha. That's what's going to happen. Mark my words. Clip this. Put it on Instagram. You're welcome. That's pretty good. That is what's going to happen. It's happened on Love Island, UK before. We're like kind of somebody with a lot of potential gets eliminated. Is it Molly? The first week. What?

Is it Molly? Yeah. But I didn't like that they brought her back. I didn't expect that to happen. But yeah, that's gonna happen. But I loved her. I thought she was so cute. I struggled with her in the first couple episodes. I mean, she spoke TikTok.

She made me feel like I was a boomer. I mean, the amount of stuff that she was saying. Well, everybody did. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what works though. It's like it's weird. Delulu and Halulu. I'm like, what?

Where are we? It's unique, it's different. You're like, you think you hated it at first and then you're like, there's something there and you're like, I can't believe she's gone because either way, we talked about her. You know what I'm saying? While we watched her, we paid attention to Beldasha.

It's like she spoke in Morse code though. Yes, well I think I watched Love Island UK and I'm like, oh, the way they speak their lingo is like, I think like that's just UK lingo. But then in my head I'm like, oh, is that their version of like Gen Z lingo? Cause when I'm watching this, I'm like, I'm 31. And but I'm with the kids, I'm on TikTok,

like you know what I mean? And I'm like, what are they saying? That is me. But it's in a way where it's like, that's where I think it's a little ombring, because they'll be like, girl, they'll say it as it's like a slogan. I'm like, are they trying to make a TikTok sound out of this?

Like, don't you feel like sometimes they're trying to make a TikTok sound out of it? I'm like, okay, but. Do you think Shelly and Ace are playing the long game? No, so I, by the way, Shelly looks like Halle Bailey. Gorgeous, all the girls this season. Stunning. Literally, I'm like, what the hell, like breathtaking.

I think, I predict that Ace is gonna find his girl in Casa Amor. I think they're gonna play this little long game here and there up until then. But I think he has Casa Amor girlie written all over him in a way that's gonna work out in the end, not like he's gonna leave and then come back. I feel like it seems very calculated, you know what I mean? But I feel like, I don't know, am I the only one who doesn't see them together?

I think it's too perfect. It's too like, oh my God, invisible string. Everybody wants them together. And everybody in the comments I see on Instagram is like, why didn't he pick her or whatever, blah, blah, blah. But I'm not the biggest, I'm not really rooting for them. I don't know. Really?

I just feel like they make- You rooting for them? They seem to be the two smartest people in the group. In what way? There's some of the other conversations like between, they're just a little, it's more, like who's the girl that Ace picked? Amaya.

Amaya, and then who's the Florida boy? Austin. Austin. When they talk, it's like I get these people. They just laugh, they goof. It seemed like Shelly and Ace would have deeper conversations and they seemed to enjoy that about each other and it seemed like they could really

have an emotional relationship that I don't feel like I see with Ace and Amaya. Yeah, do you ever put on your producer hat though? have an emotional relationship that I don't feel like I see with Ace and Amaya. Do you ever put on your producer hat though? Like sometimes I have a producer lens on when I'm looking at it and I'm like, the producers saw the audience, cause this is filmed in real time

and posted in like real time essentially, they saw, oh my God, they knew each other on the outside world. Let's tap into this. The audience loves this. So we're going to show them having this deep, these deep conversations, because we want to push that narrative and whether they get together or they don't, that's going to cause drama. Cause I was pissed when he didn't pick.

Exactly. So I think that, but the Austin is, why do I weirdly like not hate Austin? I don't know. Like, I think that like that he's so weird. I can't understand him, so maybe that's why I'm like, I can't hate him because I don't understand him. I'm like, this is just bizarre. And I weirdly think, maybe it's because I like Shelly

and Shelly still kind of likes him, so I'm like, is there something there? I don't know, it's weird. Someone said he looks like someone drew Justin Hartley from memory. Well, and that 1000%. And Nick is like the Walter Goggins. He also looks like Walton.

Walton. He did that pimple patch. Oh my God, I'm like, none of these girls can cover him with a star-faced pimple patch. Because he's gay and evil. I know! I know! Literally, I was like-

I'm like, these girls are fighting over this man with his pimple, it's crazy! Literally, literally. But speaking of him, okay, this is controversial. I know everybody who's mad at him for not picking Belle-Dashay. Oh, I wanna know who picked Ciara. But I also like, I think it is a little bit of like,

it's week one, and like he was put in that position. I don't necessarily, and this is not picked me because trust me, I fucking hate men, like hear me out. But like, I don't. Safe face, is not pick me because trust me, I fucking hate men, like hear me out. But like, I don't. Safe face, I hate men. Safe face. But I don't think he's like a bad guy or like an asshole. Like I think like.

I think it was a little manipulative on the side of like, you know she wasn't here to kiss. And then you took her up to soul ties and you were like, let's run back forth base. Like you got her to kiss you again. And then giving that speech, she's like that whole we shared that special moment, pause. She's like, and he goes, in the photo booth, crush her. There is this one thing I noticed

with young men on dating shows, and I think Faya, like Jesse Seligman did a little bit, the way they fuck up and do these women dirty, and then immediately forgive the women for something. Taylor, he was like after... This pissed me off. Yeah, he goes, well, I forgive you to our Alandria. You know, she talked to him, he came up to her afterward and he was like, yeah, no, I

forgive you for how you... It's like, why you forgive her for what? Nick said this, some version of that to, I think either Sierraara or Beldasha, where it's like these guys immediately like turnin' on these women. It's like these women did something wrong. And I'm like, what the fuck? This is also what I think USA lacks. I feel like in UK, the male friendships

and the men that go on that show are likable. And I feel like on USA, the men are villainized right off the bat because they're doing stupid shit. And I'm like, I hate you already. Like, I don't even like you. Like, what are youized right off the bat because they're doing stupid shit. And I'm like, oh, I hate you already. Like, I don't even like you. Like, what are you doing? And like, especially like when they were like,

when a challenger band together, they all sit up and left all the girls on the couch. I'm like, they're not really likable. And like, maybe they think that doing that is gonna like give them a story arc or like maybe the producers think that that's what we wanna see. But I'm also kinda like, yeah,

it never paints them in a good light. I don't think they know what they're doing. But then when they do sweet things, I'm like, oh, they're only doing this because they wanna look like the good guy. So I'm like, I can't win as an audience member. Why don't the women like Charlie Moore? I feel like he's hot as fuck.

She's my number one. She's my number one. Yeah, I'm so good at it. He's got a great voice, like and the women's my number one. Yeah. He's my number one. He's got a great voice. Like, and the women just ignore this guy. Like. He gave them the edge. No, he is my number one.

Also the girl that he's with, is her name Hannah? Yeah. People say on tech, people keep tagging me on her tech talks and say that we look alike a little bit. I think it's cause we like both kind of have like a little bit of a list

and like talk out of the side of our mouth. I think that they're going to go far. Like I think they're gonna grow into something. I love them. Girls, if you go on Love Island in the future, I always say pick the underdog, pick the underdog. There's a reason why everybody's going for the assholes at first and the guys who are in the back,

it's like those are the slow burns. Those are the ones that are good. I have no idea why nobody liked him. And they all were putting him on first base or not picking him. Like, you don't wanna make out with this man. Like, he has an accent. He's like, what is happening?

Yeah, and he seems like the most level headed. And after the game he's like, I think I gave all the girls the ick. I was like, you gave all the girls the ick? I was so nervous about that. So that's just him being self-aware, just knowing what the ick is, just like conscious that like he might do something.

These other guys can't even comprehend they might turn off women. Yeah. Literally. And every time they fuck over a girl, like when the guy was like, and they're back to 50-50, all the guys were like, yeah!

It's like, what are we doing here? I completely agree, I have no idea. Then that also was like, I think he brought it up, which is another self-aware point. He's like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in middle school. Like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in high school, because our cultures are different.

So they're not like seeing me right away and being like, oh my God, you know, just because he's different. But yeah, I am like, why is nobody after him? I have no idea. This might be controversial, but I hate the way Huda went about telling Jeremiah that she's a mom. It felt so, if I'm her child,

it's giving you're embarrassed of me. It's giving you don't wanna share. Like, if God forbid this ever happens, Nick and I get a divorce. And you're on Love Island USA. And I am on Love Island USA. Yeah, of course. Which I don't know if I'd ever do, I have to leave my child for two on Love Island USA. And I am on Love Island USA. Of course. Which I don't know if I'd ever do have to leave my child

for two months with no contact. Sorry, not interested. But like I'm leading with that, right? Like I don't even want to entertain the possibility of someone who's not like going to love my daughter. So like, why would I even like hide that for a moment? She told the women immediately, like open the door with being like,

hey, my name's Huda and I'm a mother. So if you don't have the mature responsibility to deal with that, then don't even try to fucking talk to me. I wanna give her grace, but after hearing Natalie's take while watching it, I feel like it's giving, I wanna stay on the show. I have a theory. Give it.

Jessica, love is blind. Hiding that she, not hiding, or like not saying that she had kids, then saying she had kids, big reality TV moment, everybody was talking about it, the you will choke, everything. I think maybe either producer saw that or she saw that, and during her interview process of Love Island,

she's like, I'm a mom, I'm nervous to come on and tell people, and they were like, you know what? Like, this is your show, like, this is your opportunity. Like, you don't have to tell everybody right away. Maybe tell the girl, I think there might be a little producer of it all, because she came and she's like, I'm a mom. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and then her not telling them,

I think there might be some sort of producer in her ear being like, I would wait to tell somebody until it's real. Like, you know what I mean? Or she could just be saying that and like, I'm not a mom. So I don't get it. But I also, and this might be controversial, but I think that telling somebody from the start not only is like a sign of respect,

but it's like, this is who I am. Like that's gonna be a massive mess apart. Obviously you don't introduce the kid until you're comfortable and like figure that out. is like a sign of respect, but it's like, this is who I am. Like that's gonna be a massive mess apart. Obviously you don't introduce the kid until you're comfortable and like figure that out, but I do think that that was a little weird and his reaction was completely okay, cause I would be like, oh my God.

Because when you date somebody who has a child already, I come from a family, my mom was divorced twice by the age of nine, I met boyfriends, I had step dads. When you date somebody with a child, you are not dating and gonna be newlyweds and have that time alone. There's somebody else in the picture.

It's a different relationship. Different relationship, different relationship. So it's like, I understood his reaction. But then it felt like she was trying to sell her dog. She's like, she's just like me. She loves arcade, she loves this, she's so cool, she's so like me. She loves arcade. She loves this. She's so cool. She's so this. And it was like, you don't have to do all that.

Like you don't have to try to like make her sound. Like he'll love her. Yeah. What are your thoughts on them in general? Hey, it's four days in bitch. Like you cannot, she was so mean to that new bombshell. Oh yeah. So mean.

I don't know what it is about her, but she's dirty. She's messy. It's like, huh, you just met her. Like she was playing a game. Yeah, also going back to like the kid thing, I also think it was how she led into it with the whole, like I have a second bedroom. Like say you have an office,

like if you don't want to like talk about your kid, but it's like you're setting it up. Like there's this big scary secret. Even the lead up to that whole conversation on the dock where it was like, I just have to tell you something. It was like, this could be STD. I murdered someone. Like the, we're a mom and they're just,

they're not playing the long game. And there, I think there's gonna burn out way too early. Well, I think did every, I haven't really seen the narrative online about this, but we goes, but if we go all the way and win. That, that I texted Leia literally was like, did you catch something that was a giant red flag? That was obviously, and he's like,

well I mean like make it to the end. And he like corrected himself. Now in my head, I'm a producer, like by the way I've never produced anything in my life. This is just this lens that I have. Some people are just born with it. Yes. Literally.

You have the genes. Yeah, maybe it's because I always say like, the TV raised me, like the TV was my babysitter. Amen. Now, from this point, if anybody comes in and tries to date her or pursue her, they're going on to be the good guy. To have that role on the show of like,

you know what, like, I'm gonna come in and like be the guy that like, takes it well that she has kids. And if they stay together, in his head he's like, I'm gonna win the show because I'm gonna be the guy that she deserves and we're gonna have this family and that's gonna make people root for us. I feel like she is set up for failure,

no matter what, which sucks. But I think that if they ever break up, the next guy who comes in, who tries to be with her, it's gonna be for a reason, which might be why she was kind of like, hesitant to say she had kids to begin with, but like, I just think that like, there is no way, shape or form where she's going to leave this happy,

which will be good for the show and might be good for her socially or like career wise, but I just think that like, it I just think that it's gonna explode. There's no way. But I will say, maybe I've been working on my emotional maturity, I'm in a healthy relationship now, I'm in therapy, and I totally think that she approached the situation wrong,

but maybe it's just because I'm not approved, but if I saw the guy that I really liked doing that with all these girls, maybe it's because I didn't date a lot, I would be like, oh prude, but like I saw the guy that I really liked doing that with all these girls Maybe it's cuz I like didn't date a lot. I would kind of be like, oh my god, like that hurts me like that upsets me I wouldn't react every right. Yeah, like have her feelings hurt Yeah, like I think it's hard to see any of these girls like, you know for Elandria to watch like Taylor make out with I think it probably like there's a moment in her head where she was like damn that kind of sucks Yeah, whatever, but I think the fact that she was like death staring this man to the point where he felt

so uncomfortable, he couldn't even participate in the fucking game. He was like, I didn't even kiss her back. My hands weren't on her. Like he was- He was whipped in four days. He was very, it seems, it's giving like he is scared of her. I also think the thing with Love Island that makes it great and like horrible for the people,

which is all reality TV, is since there's no phones, no books, no nothing, you literally have nothing, all of their attention. Energy, all their energy. Energy goes to the person they're pursuing. So from a girl's perspective, they're like, this is what I've always wanted. Look, a man is giving me all of his attention.

This is love. And guys are like, well, I'm bored. Like, I'm just gonna, yeah, I guess this is really all I have to do. You wanna have another chat? Yeah, so in their heads, they're like, even though it's been four days, they're like, no, like, this is like 100% real.

Like, he's giving me everything. I've always wanted his full attention. But it's like, it's been four days. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I do wish some of the women would check Huda, like, Aceded of him being like, we're four days in. She's like, I don't care. It's like, I wish some of these women would be like,

babe, you can't be pissed off at this bombshell. She's doing her job. And she also can't say, well, because I have a kid and I told him, then like, he needs to take me more serious because 1000%, if I was her, I'd be like, yeah, like, I need you to take me more serious because 1000%, if I was trying to be like, yeah, I need you to take me more seriously, I have a child, but from his perspective, he's like, well, I came on this dating show.

I don't know if I wanna have a kid, you know what I mean? You can't be taken seriously when you're on Love Island squirting ketchup and swallowing popsicles. You're just not gonna be taken seriously. And you didn't lead with I have a kid. And I can still think in her head, it's 100% feasible for her to be like, well, I want the guy who's with me to like respect me

and like wanna be with me, like I just told him I have a kid, but it's like, yeah, we're on Love Island though, and like, that's not what- That's the bachelor. Yeah, he didn't sign up for that. It's early, but who amongst this cast do you think has the biggest star potential outside of Love Island? Do you think there's the PPG element possible

with this group of cast? Is there a Rob, so to speak? I think this is a very, even though they're focusing on the men, I think this is a girl heavy season in the sense of personalities. I mean, none of the guy's personalities really like blew me out of the water at all.

I think it's really early to tell, but I say, I think that Sierra is gonna be a big fashion influencer girly after. Isn't she kind of already somebody in Arizona? Yeah, I follow a girl who is good friends with her, and I think she's kind of like a fashion influencer girly, but I think they're not really showing much of her personality right now because of the storyline.

I think she might come out as a leader of the trio of the friend group. I think she's gonna have a big story arc. And I also think, Elandria, I think she's gonna be a big person. She's stunning. Stunning. Wait, her body during the challenge. Also the way that she checked Jeremiah being like,

are you not scared that he's like, possessed? Yeah, I think though, I think Elandria is gonna have a big story arc. I think she's gonna get hurt and then maybe have a happy ending. And I think that Charlie and Hannah, is that her name? They're quiet right now. I don't ever think they'll bring drama,

but I think they like might be. The couple? I think they might last very, very long. And like he might stay faithful to her and Cassey more. Like I have faith for them, but listen, next week it literally Might be like him like making out with every girl in the house But she did when he walked in which I also thought was like what the hell did you see Austin take a shower and then smell

His underwear and wipe his face with it. I didn't okay. I didn't I wish I didn't or the IUD that fell out Oh my god people are so fucking stupid. You know whether all that was crazy. You know what the IUD means no everyone Everyone was talking about that. You know what that means? What? All that means is that they're the biggest show on reality TV right now. That's how Bachelor Nation was for a while.

When its fans are doing deep dive in these people's lives, when they would just look, they would break down every scene of every show. All that means is you're number one. Yeah. The fan base gets so intense, so like, they just, they want to find anything to talk about when they like, will screenshot an IUD and make such a big deal about it.

It was a piece of it. Whatever it was, like, just whatever it was. They don't just fall out. That's going to be a brand partnership. But I'm just saying, it just, it just, it shows the success of the show and it's hype because of just the interest. They're paying that much attention to the show. They're looking for anything to make something.

Who do you think is gonna be, not the underdog, or somebody who's gonna come up and have a moment? I don't know. I mean, I truly think Shelly is the most loved right now. Gorgeous. I think because she's bisexual, she kind of like gives that. Do you think she'll ever go for a girl? That's what I want.

That's happened in the UK. Has it? I kind of want for her to go for a girl. I mean, what, Sierra walked in and was like, I kissed all the guys, now it's time for me to kiss all of you. I think Sierra's a star. I think she's a star.

I think she's gorgeous. Yeah. I like her. I don't think they've showed her personality yet, but I think she's gonna maybe this week have a moment where she pops off a little bit in a good way. I was a little bummed, and maybe as a show, but when Nick went back with Beldasha,

I was a little bummed that Sierra didn't make moves. It's just like, he's too beneath you to get all kind of desperate about it. I hated that. I hated how, and this is props to her, I just hate how in the conventional she was like, actually it's like kind of pissing me off that he can't pick somebody, but then to his face she's like, you know what, this is your journey. Take your time. And like, I respect it. I encourage it. I wanted her to pull Charlie. that was very like, pick me. And I don't think that's who she is at her core.

And I don't blame her for playing that because she's like, I want him to pick me. Obviously, like literally being on the show and being a pick me is the show. Like you want them to pick you. Yeah, I hated that. I was like, what are we doing? Cause sometimes the guys like it when they're like,

okay, well like if you're confused, then like that's my answer. So. Nick forgot that Belladasha existed until she started getting attention from some of the other men. He even said it, he's like, I like when somebody's not into me.

I was like, oh, well, I mean, there we go. But there's the formula. There's the show, yeah. I thought there was a second he was gonna pick Belladasha just because it was like, because he's with Ciara this week. I think he would've picked Belladasha if it wasn't an elimination. I think he would have picked Beldasha

if it wasn't an elimination. I can see that, I can see that, because he wanted to see how that would pan out. Keep it going. Yeah, I think, but also it's like next week they're gonna come in so guy heavy. They're gonna bring in like two bombshells, because it's all been girls,

and that's kind of how the formula goes. They flip week to week of like. I would love for them to bring in, I think Jeremiah said that he was like attracted to Hispanic Latina women. Like I would love for them to bring in a bombshell Latina woman and just see if Jeremiah will just lean any sort of way because it's,

I wanna test this relationship. The audience is reacting that way. They're like, we want Jeremiah's head to turn where I'm like, oh my God. He's gorgeous. Gorgeous. I'm actually so sorry. Every time he's on camera, I'm like, Jesus Christ. No, he's striking. Yeah, he he is like, he looks like an actor or somebody.

I couldn't put my finger on it, but yeah, he's absolutely good. Do you guys do you think he's actually a good guy? He seems like he is, which is. There's no reason to think he's not yet. I mean, the fact that he didn't kiss her back, the fact that he sat down and had that conversation with Amaya and was like, I'm gonna go. Like he didn't flirt, he didn't lean in any sort of way.

I don't think, I don't think bad guys would have looked as uncomfortable as he looked at home base playing that game, or he really looked like he was trying not to kiss one of the bombshells. And I feel like the scummy guys would have been at a minimum. They would have leaned in and been like, it was a game.

It was a challenge. What about like a wolf in sheep's clothing where it's like saying all the right things? Like for me, I'm like, he's very possessive. He clearly like has. How is he possessive? They both are. They're very much like,

you're not gonna talk to anybody else. It's day two and you're on Love Island. It seems more like her driving that show. I think he started it a little bit and then once she got wind that he was possessive, she was like, oh, I like this. Anything's possible. My only worry is, look up what happened with Scandival.

It was a literal national news story. Men know if I go on TV and fuck over a girl who people think is a fan favorite, I am more than done. The thing that is great about Love Island until they bring in the games where they show the public's comments, you don't know who's a fan favorite because like it's life. Like you know what I mean?

So in his head he might think, okay, like she is a mom. She's a fan favorite. What if after he finds out that she's not, he's like. So, but I also am with you guys. I'm like, you guys seem like a good guy, but like you said, anything's possible. I think they also, one more thing I wanted to talk about when the sense of the game with the suitcases,

with the answers, I think they definitely asked those questions during casting. For sure. Because that's why I think Austin's answers were so crazy, because he was probably like, I'm gonna say all this shit to get on the show. He's like, do you know what I mean? Because some of the answers for all of them didn't add up, I'm like, this was definitely

casting questions, and people played it safe, or went completely outside of the box to get on the show. 100% Nick being confused, being like, wait, no, I for sure cheated. Like I've never seen someone out themselves. Also not his ex being like, that was about me. And I knew he told me he didn't cheat on me. It was like, how do you know it was you?

Five years later. It could be like a high school girlfriend, a middle school girlfriend. And like the bodies of it all being like, how many people have you slept with? Like, I mean, obviously like maybe I'm just like old, but I was kind of like and I'm all for everybody but I'm like to say that on national TV like with your family

watching and stuff like that like I don't even have a good relationship with my family I was just like this is like TV's crazy yes like nothing is crazy like it's like okay so she okay yeah she slept with 18 18 it's like what's going on like this is like actually fucking crazy like And maybe I'm just like old now, but I was like, wow, like I mean, and good for them. Like I'm not judging anybody's numbers, but I was like, the fact that like, this is what we are watching is entertainment

and we're like loving it. I was like, we're crazy. It played into the stereotype of how like men always like lie and they add numbers to their roster and women tend to like, you know, leave a couple. Keep it safe. Keep it safe. Do you think it was a little risky of the producers

to throw in the nude question, given the controversy they had last season? The nudes question. The way these fans like start like looking and. I mean, for it, yeah, for Austin to be like thousands of nudes, that's just literally giving the audience like a chance to be like, hit thousands of his nudes are out there, I should go and look for some.

My producer goggles were not on for that one. And you guys make an incredible point. I, that has to be the scare. That's and I, you know, who here has had controversial tweets? Like controversial tweets. Like it's like 1000 years. Like, all right, let's go find them.

Yeah. Someone who, who, who was born in reality TV. I have so much empathy for just how difficult it can be to come off these shows, and it is infinitely more challenging coming out of Love Island because it's one thing to film a show, have the show rap, go live your life,

anticipate the show airing three to 12 months later. These people become famous off the grid. And that is... And like walk out to it. Yeah. And it's not right. It's kind of, it's weird. And it's just like, it's scary.

It's almost, it's cool for them how popular this show is, but it's potentially very scary. Cause it's, there's so many like clout chasers out there. All the exes, you know, everyone wants their moment. They didn't do this on USA, but in UK last year, they, you aren't allowed to post on your social media while you're in the house. So you know, like now they have friends like running it

so you can gain followers and stuff like that. In the UK, they stopped allowing people to post on their social media pages during the show because it was getting like so much bullying and stuff like that. But then also I was like, that's interesting because then they'll come out inevitably with less opportunity.

I don't know, it was interesting that they did that and I wonder if they'll ever get to a point in the USA where they do that. Yeah, because I wonder if they're, maybe Hoda's getting a lot of shit right now, but say she makes it to the end and everyone loves her. It's like she comes out and she had no idea that there was all that hate

and she just comes to like a bunch of love. And also's like she comes out and she had no idea that there was all that hate and she just comes to like a bunch of love. And also like the hate can get like, like you said like insane, insane. And you walk out and you're like, okay I was a waitress last week and now I'm literally like being the most hated woman on the internet. It's also really early.

I think people forget that Lea caught early heat last season, season six and she became 1000% a huge fan favorite. So it's so early. It's the formula, it's so early. It's the formula, it's the formula. Did you ever watch Bachelor? So I watched Bachelor, Emily Maynard season.

I watched like early Bachelor. I watched your season because of the toast. They fucking hated me then. Yeah, you were in the basket of like, if people hated then you had your redemption arc. You know what's so funny, speaking of the toast to Nick, is I reminded, this came off my For You page. And it's Nick, I guess he has Claudia on,

I gotta tell Claudia, remind Claudia about this. It was during the pandemic. During the pandemic, he had like Claudia on, it was via Zoom, whatever, and Nick was like, he like asked her like something about their friendship, like yeah, like our friendship, something, and she was like, it means so much to me, like I honestly, like it has changed my worldly view, like I don't think I've ever had a friendship something. And she was like, it means so much to me. Like, I honestly, like, it has changed my worldly view.

Like, I don't think I've ever had a friendship like this before in my life. And I just, like, can't believe that we're friends. And Nick was like, yeah, I mean, I feel the same way. And it was, like, so clear that she was being sarcastic. And Nick was like, yeah. It was the pandemic. It was this practicing gratitude.

I thought we all could die, you know? Yeah. It's weird because, like, I'm the biggest reality TV person. And, like, I, like, don't really watch The Bachelorette. I'm very good friends with Gabby Wendy. We work together a lot. I love her so much. I went on her podcast.

I had no idea she was The Bachelorette. I had no idea. I thought she was on the show and then I was like, so did you go on that show wanting to get married or whatever? She's like, I literally was The Bachelorette. I was like, oh, I literally had no idea. Only reason why I asked is because they are going She's like, I literally was. I was like, oh, I literally had no idea. But, um.

The only reason why I ask is because they are going through a bit of a potential rebrand. They haven't been picked up. They have their 30th. How would you modernize the show? So I don't know if I can say, I'm pretty sure I can say this. A couple years back, I met with people about this in the sense of it was like for an interview with some people from like ABC being like, what, like, what do you think the show needs essentially? And I think I have a TikTok some people from like ABC being like what like what do you think the show needs essentially?

And I think I have a tick tock about it from like four years ago I was deep in my love Island phase so I was like I think you need to bring a little bit of a live aspect to it in the sense of like my Idea was so you know how sometimes they show like the first three people that are gonna be on the show once they announce The Bachelorette they like show the audience people that are gonna be on the show once they announce the bachelorette, they like show the audience people who are gonna be on the next season or whatever. I think that there should be some sort of thing where the person who's the bachelor or bachelorette

gets like a Tinder almost and so does the audience. It's like an app and you like swipe left or right. There's a little bio to say like who you want to be on the show or not. And then the person does that. And then like three weeks into the show, they bring in some of the people that the Bachelorette said that they wanted,

or add some of the people that the audience wanted to see that wasn't there originally. Like I think there needs to be some sort of live aspect to it, but at the same time, it's like you could try to rebrand and reinvent the Bachelor Bachelorette. And people have said that it's needed it for so long, obviously, but then it's also like,

will that really still be the Bachelor Bachelorette if it's fully rebranded? I think it could, and we were on the same page where we were talking about it an hour ago. It's kind of like let a dead dog lie though, you know? That's sometimes how I feel about it. Well, they're gonna try. We were talking about it about an hour before you showed up.

I think the lead needs to have some kind of involvement in the casting. I think the lead should have a phone throughout the season that's not their phone. It's a show phone, it's controlled by the phone. When you're not on the date, someone could text them, modernize it in a way instead of showing up at the door. Ooh, I like that, yeah.

Yeah, and the lead has some say. I think they should cast 60, not 30, and allow these women to go online and start being characters online before they even show up so the audience gets invested in them. I agree that's I said that for a minute too because it's like you should have a little bit of a say it doesn't need to be a full shock factor you know what I mean yeah. We have a little bit of breaking news. Justin Baldoni's 400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds

has been dismissed by the judge. Pop off. Kind of crazy. That's insane. The judge threw it up. Are you guys? Very much team Blake and team Ryan. Yeah.

So I am not as deep in it as somebody might think that I would be. See, I am so bad with like propaganda, which is probably not like a good thing to say. But like when I'm on TikTok and I see one TikTok on one person's side, it's giving all the facts. I'm like, wow, you know what? That's crazy.

And then I see the next deep dive and I'm like, oh my God, yes, literally. So it's so hard. It's also a very- Especially like PR agencies getting involved, like to specifically trash other people's images. I'm like, I have no idea what I'm seeing is real or not. It's also a very toxic subject.

We've left it alone for a while because people are very, very opinionated on it and it's just been not worth it. We've been like, y'all know our stance. I mean, my stance started when I interviewed Justin years ago and he's probably the, well, he's the only guest I ever had that I had a very visceral negative experience where I just felt like this it was a

fraudulent person it was just my my opinion my take and yeah just wasn't surprised and and and then just I think people are just ignoring like I've said before the claim was always sexual harassment not sexual assault and you can making someone feel uncomfortable the workplace is obviously can is there's a spectrum of that but I think the real crime that people are completely ignoring was his his response to that which was the online the team that he hired to go out and and hire and have this very organized smear campaign that I think is a just a very elaborate

and very kind of scary thing about like how people can go after their accusers. And the same way that, you know, that's a playbook of all this time, but now it's just an elevated playbook using the power of the internet, which I think is very scary, and you saw him do that,

and I think everyone's kind of ignoring that. I wanna know, I don't know if it would be a documentary or like a scandal type show, where they show the inner workings of those agencies doing that. Like that is just, and it exists. And everybody in the industry knows this exists, but the consumer is so blind to it,

which is like another thing that like, I find extremely fascinating, especially ever since being in the public eye and kind of being on the back end of it is like, and having my best friends from home who grew up in New Hampshire and Boston, when they speak about celebrities and bring things up, I'm like, Oh, you, you don't get it. Like you don't you read what the internet's like you get what their PR team is trying to put out there. I'm like, it's just so interesting. I mean, I have not dove into the whole case fully. But I am interested to learn more about those techniques and that agency

and how that works. Because imagine being the person who works on a PR team like that. How does one feel about themself? I mean, that would would be an interesting like kind of like how the studio has done this like deep dive in like how you make you know, like how that industry is if there was some sort of show about yeah Yeah, that's a big win for Ryan and Blake And I think once this thing finally goes to court on the other side of thing I still think that you're gonna the witnesses that are included in the original claim, I think a lot more will come forward and glad I was on that side and the things from the beginning. Robin, always fun and always a pleasure to have you. Thanks for coming on. Where can people find you? It's so funny. When I started Girlbostown, I never

thought that I would be professionally known as a girl boss. It's like literally the most cringey thing ever, but you know what, I'm owning it. So it's at Girlbostown on TikTok and Instagram, giving my pop culture commentary, my predictions. I also do creative consulting on the back end as well. Should we hire you? I feel like maybe we need you.

Guys, I'm here. Here it is. But I have so much fun whenever I come on here. You guys speak my language, so thank you so much So fun to pick your love island range. It's an honor to have you back up next We have the very hilarious Jim Jeffries and his wife Well all you busy workers out there If you feel like you are buried under non-stop meetings and struggle to remember what was discussed or agree next steps Fireflies is your AI teammate that keeps track of it all.

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His wife, Taisy, came with. She's a big reality TV fan. We're like, do you want to sit on the couch and talk some reality TV with us? She came and she sat and we had a great conversation. Somehow, someway, Taisy's father's name got brought up. His name is Derek. We were just talking names. About their kids. About their kids. Sadly, I've talked with Taisy

and asked if it was okay to share the story, but we found out after they left that Taisy's father Derek died of a heart attack while we were recording that show. And I only bring it up because it just reminds you just how short life is. Thoughts and prayers go to Taisy's family and her father. We love them and we love their family

and just hug the ones they love because you just, you never know. Jim Jefferies. Jim, welcome back. Thanks for having me. And you brought your lovely wife with you, Taisy. My wife is a big fan of all things that you talk about in this show. So she wasn't going to be in the air.

She just wanted to come and watch. So, well, yeah, and we were just like, well, sit on the couch. We, you said, do you want to sit on the couch? And she, she took it like that. She was like, yeah. And we were just like, well, sit on the couch. We, you said, do you want to sit on the couch? And she, she took it like that. She was like, yes. And she was down. See, but is there anyone who's passionate about what we're passionate about? We, we, we love to bring them on. And obviously you've been on before recapping the bachelor with us. Was it your wife who got you into the bachelor franchise?

Me and the wife got into the bachelor. It's weird. Cause I had a joke about the bachelor and I started saying to my wife, I started saying, oh, my wife got me into The Bachelor. It's weird because I had a joke about The Bachelor and I started saying to my wife, I started saying, oh, my wife got me into The Bachelor. Neither of us watched it, but I had a joke because I'd watched one episode. And then, and my wife was like, why are you dragging me down with this trashy TV? How dare you make me blah, blah, blah. Then COVID happened and we watched like every season. We find off ironically. Yeah, ironically. That's how I ended up going on the show. Making fun of my, my buddy's wife who was watching it. And I was like, why are you watching the stupid show?

And she's like, shut up. I'm going to sign you up. And I was like, ha ha ha ha ha. And then it changed my life. And now we're, now we're upset. No, we're, we've watched all the seasons. Sometimes if we have no TV to watch, we will go on Hulu and go, what season haven't we seen? And we like season six, 2008, you know, and we'll watch it.

It's in black and white. No, they're better those episodes because no one wants to get followers. No one, like there's no podcast to be had or anything like that. Everyone's legitimately looking for love. It's weird. It's kind of creepy. Yeah, it's definitely not as fun. Psychotic.

Yeah. Well, you are here because you are hosting a new reality TV show called The Snake on Fox, which premieres tonight at 9. It does. Very excited about that. Obviously, we're going to talk to you about some other reality TV in general.

But let's, uh. I think, look, I was doing another game show in Australia and I got the phone call and they said, Fox wants you to host a game show in America that's going to film in Argentina in six days time. And I was finishing and I said, look, I don't finish here for eight days. And then they went, all right, you can come out in eight days. So I flew out to Argentina. I really just think that I got the job because the show's called The Snake and this accent.

Has there ever been another Australian game show host in American TV history? Honestly, I don't think Americans can say the word snake. I had to go, who's going to be the snake this week? Who's going to be the this this week? And all that type of stuff, right? It couldn't be an American. And I think they thought that maybe I had a little bit of the Steve Irwin's about me. That I could just pick him up and go, I've got a snake.

That I'm as scared of snakes as anyone else. Was that like a letdown for them? Did they find that out later? We don't. There are physical snakes in the show occasionally. They're not common. It's not every episode with a snake. The idea of the show is that there's a snake medallion.

You want to be the snake. The snake isn't the bad person. The snake changes each week. And so you win competitions to become the snake. The snake isn't the bad person. The snake changes each week. And so you win competitions to become the snake and then the snake has extra voting power and extra control. So it's a social game. So if you're the snake,

all the other housemates start sucking up to you that week because you have to be nice to the snake. If you're on the bad side of the snake, you're out of the show. So the snake is like a bit of false friendship. They wield all the power. They wield all the power. They wield all the power. The snake wields all the power.

And I have to give people the medallion. I have to hold them a day. I got this medallion that I hold up and go, who wants this? I really take it very seriously. I've seen the promo. I haven't seen the first episode, but I really, what really drew me is like, uh, the show seems to lean into like, like old school, like tropes of characters, like how bachelor when they had the cast, it was like the pilot, the engineer.

You guys have a pastor. We have a pastor who, who's wearing the outfit. Where's the collar? Where's the collar? We have a cop who's, who's wearing like a bulletproof vest all the time. Like she comes out, like not when they're in the house, but when they're doing contestant games, we have an only fans creator. She's just wearing nothing.

Yeah. Yeah. She's like, no, no, she's so we have an only fans creator. She's just wearing nothing. She's like, no, no, she's. So we have an only fans creator. We have a cop. We have a detective. I'd say the detective, uh, look, look, I'm a heterosexual fella, but, uh, something for the mums. I'll tell you, handsome fella called Derek.

I'm just chilling out there. Nice guy. I'll tell you what I liked all the contestants in the end. To begin with, there's such a distance between being the host and the contestants where you don't really see them. They all hang out with each other. You see them at the challenges and the voting ceremonies and what we call it the saving ceremony in this show.

And, but over the course of the weeks of the show, I actually got quite fond of all of them. So there wasn't any one that you were rooting for to win? Ah, yeah, there's people I wanted to, look, I had me favorites, but I wouldn't say it. I'm not my mother. Oh, go ahead. No.

I'm not gonna tell you in front of your brothers. What did you think of the pastor? Cause I saw that and I immediately, like my spidey senses go up because I think like men, women of God, like they wield so much power because in their communities, people look to those people as, you know, therapists sometimes like, like they're, they're like the closest

connection between themselves and God, you know? And so I'm like a pastor who wants to be famous. Like at first I had the initial, and I said this to him, I said, I have a repulsion towards people wearing that outfit. I'm not, I'm an atheist. Um, I just don't like priests and stuff like that. I find it creepy. And also we all know what's going on in the Catholic church and all that type of stuff. New Pope. So I have an initial like, uh, to the whole situation. And I said it to him. I said, I said, mate, I said, I said, ordinarily, I don't really like people like you or I avoid people like you, but I think you're a really nice guy. He was a really sweet guy.

And me and him connected on the same level. We're both dads. He's got a two-year-old daughter. I've got a three-year-old son. You know what I mean? So we sort of talked on that face level. Is your kid watching Bluey? You know what I mean?

And then once we got to that level, I just chatted to him. He was a solid-ass dude, man. He's a good guy. Pastor Jacob, I vouch for Pastor Jacob. Pastor Jacob's solid. Pastor Jacob's a solid-ass dude. How did he get along with the OnlyFans? Any kind of sit-down?

Oh, they were shagging the whole time. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of bloopers. There's a lot of stuff. A lot of blurred images. So much. It is weird because the show has an aspect of the big brotherness of people living in a house.

You go into a room and there's, you know, you know, from the bachelor's, like, must be 80 screens, 80 cameras that are all playing at the same time. I'm in Argentina. The only TV is Spanish speaking television and stuff like that. That became my TV each day. I'd wake up in the morning and I'd text one of the producers, what happened last night? Are they all getting along? Who's not getting along? Did they resolve that conflict? I got really into the gossip of all these people and how they were all getting along and all that type of stuff. And you know, there's a little bit of not to ruin anything, but there's a bit of romance that goes on in the show. There's a little bit of that. There's a bit of romance and there's a bit of competitive, there's a bit of skullduggery. There's a little bit of that. There's a bit of romance in there. There's a bit of competitive. There's a bit of skullduggery. There's a bit of underhandedness because it's a tagline for the show is it's a show about

making friends and faking friends. You have to get along. If you don't get along with everyone, you're not getting through. So there was certain elements of the show that I didn't get to see. So I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. Taisey, are you going to watch too or? I will watch. I was just thinking that when he said that you have to pretend to like people.

It's like our marriage. It's like our marriage. But also you wouldn't be good at that at all. And I wouldn't be good at that at all. I showed disdain very easily. I can't hide it on my face. If there's drama, I'll watch it. Yeah.

There'll be a bit of drama. There's a bit of competition. There's like, uh, there's, there's like, there's tough people who turn out to be pussies in certain situations and there's people who you think are weak, who turn out to be strong in other situations. Like those are sort of, um, challenges where maybe you have to eat something or there's some, you know, you have to do something gross, that sort of fear factory type of thing.

You can tell a lot about people during those moments. Taisy, is there a show you'd like to see Jim on as a contestant of reality? Oh, as a contestant. Okay. I don't know much about contestant shows is more just, Oh my God. I always say to him, I want him to be on the bachelor. I'm like, just go on the bachelor. You have a free pass to kiss some ladies.

I just want to watch you on it and see you like, make jokes. I'm too old for the bachelor and too young for the golden. Golden bachelor. I'm too young for the golden. How are they going to go on the golden? They can make a middle ground bachelor. What about traders? You guys watch traders?

Oh my God. I'd love to be on traders. I want to be on traders. We're big trader watches, love traders. We watch the British version and the Australian version and the American version. The British celebrity version coming out right now, cause you know, you have a, the reality stars in the American. But the English one doesn't have celebrities.

No, but there's an English celebrity one that's coming out. They've just announced the celebrities and they're massive British celebrities. These aren't like B list in Britain. These are A list celebrities who are doing, who are doing the British one. I think they're trying to elevate the American version. Don't elevate it too much. I could possibly get into this one. They make it too big.

I can't get into it. Well, I need to just get in this one, but they don't really have comedians and stuff. And I don't know why, because they always want to put like, you know, the Boston Robs of this world, the good game plays and stuff in the British one. They're having like Jonathan Ross, who's the equivalent of David Letterman in, in Britain. He's the number one tonight show host he's doing, Alan Carr and all these other different British celebrities who British people would know. Big guy, big deal.

But big deal type of people. But, but I think we've told you this before we're friends with Lisa Vanderpump. Right. I would like to do, and I met her through a podcast and we've become close friends. We go over to their house to have Villa Rosa for dinner and she comes to my shows. She comes to my shows and just shows up and just watches the gigs.

You know, her and Ken just show up. So would you want to do traders with her? I would like to do something with Lisa on TV. I would like to do, I always say that Lisa's the Martha Stewart to my Snoop Dogg. Or maybe I'm the Snoop Dogg to, I'm the Martha Stewart to her Snoop Dogg. But we I'm the Snoop Dogg to, I'm the Martha Stewart to her Snoop Dogg. But we're an unlikely pairing.

Maybe she could put you in the revamp of Vanderpump. Oh yeah. You could be like a busboy. You could be like the bartender who gives sage advice. The Australian bartender, or in England all bartenders are Australian. That's not such a thing here, right? Yeah, yeah, well it's not a thing here.

Very racist of you to put it out. Sorry, sorry, that was very rude. But yeah, I could do, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's not a thing here. Yeah. Very racist of you to put it out. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I could do, I could, I don't know what would I do? Would that feel like kind of. Yeah. I told you the story about Jackson, all that, that happened to me on band of pump rules. Say it again. Okay.

So this is before I met my lovely wife. This is many years ago. Um, I was in, there was, I was in the improv comedy club and I was drunk. I was still drinking back then. So I was drunk and, um, I was standing at the bar drunk and, uh, they had Jackson, someone else and two other people. And one of the friends of theirs was doing standup for the first time. And that was the episode that they were going to be watching standup type of thing.

Right. They were in the bar section of the improv and they were having a conversation. But every time they sort of, you know, had the conversation, everyone in the bar had to be quiet because you know what I mean? And so, so all those comics were sort of staying at the bar. Like they were coming into our fucking territory and I was drunk and belligerent about the whole thing. Right. And so, uh, so I said, I don't want to be on camera in the background because I could see the camera was on me and the guy was like, don't worry about it, you're not on camera. I'm like, I know what it looks like to be on camera.

That camera is pointing right at me. I said, I don't want to be in this thing. Right. So I could have moved out of the way and they go, you're not on camera. I said, okay, great. So I turned back to the bar and I dropped my pants. So my ass was showing in the background of the shot. And I just had my ass hanging out.

I just stand at the bar having a drink with my ass hanging out like this. Right. And then Jax was like this, can we get this guy out of here? Please. Can we get this guy out of here? And I'm like, ah, dude, he's one to talk. He's known for constantly showing his ass on television. Oh man.

Did he kick you out? No, you can't. I'm the only person who gets me kicked out of comedy clubs. Yeah. I'm a comedian. You can't. You can't kick a comedian out. You can't kick a comedian out of the improv.

Right? And so the whole production thing shut out. We got into a big fight and they had, they had to leave the improv. The scene never happened. They got kicked out because I went, and then I had to apologize to the improv like that. Sorry for causing you trouble and I shouldn't have been an asshole and the thing. I was so, so I was in trouble, but they backed me up, which was very nice of them. But I was being a dickhead.

Wow. Have you seen Jackson's? No, but I told Lisa that story. I think she found the footage. She had someone actually go through it. This is how me and Lisa became mates. I told her this story and I don't think she was that fond of Jacks at the time. And I think so she was happy.

She thought I was cool. Look, she liked, you know, Lisa, she likes a bit of, she likes troublemakers. She's a troublemaker. She's a troublemaker. So me and troublemakers. She's a troublemaker. So me and her, get a kick out of each other. Would you do special forces? Man, I watch you, I contacted you afterwards, right? I was so impressed by you dude.

Oh, thank you. I was so impressed by you on that show. And the answer is no. No. I don't have the mental fortitude for that. I don't, I just don't, I'm not fit. I'm not yet, like I looked at the people my age doing it. Right, I'm a bit older than you, right?

Who was it, the guy off Beverly Hills 902, Brian Austin Gregg, right? And he was just like, ugh. First day he's like, I'm fucking out of here. Yeah, I think I'm too old. I think I'm too old to go through it. Would you do it again in 10 years? I would like to think I'm too old to go through it. Would you do it again in 10 years? I would, I would like to think I look in 10 years, maybe I would try because like

I did it this time. One, my wife was like, I think it would be sexy. And I was like, okay. All right. Would it be sexy if I did it or embarrassing now or in 10 years? No, no, I'm not doing it in 10 years. I'm dead in 10 years. I would find it hard, you doing like,

a jumping off a helicopter. I just found out Nellie was pregnant with our daughter, and I used it as kind of like, can I still do this shit? I used to compete in athletics back in the day, and I haven't done shit like that. So in 10 years, I'll wonder again, what do I still got? Because it's really not about physical.

I mean, it is to a certain extent, but it's about like not quitting. I think I could do the not quitting-ness of it, but I don't think being dunked in water, you know, I would panic, there was things I'd panic in. But I was so impressed. We watched the whole thing. We were, it was a good show. Yeah, it was a good show. And, uh, I look, I don't know about who's the guy that had the affair.

Sandoval. I think he's an all right dude. And she sits there like that going, Oh, no, I never, but, but saying that we watched him in traders after that. Right. Did you still think he was an all right dude in trade? I just thought he was sticking traders. I still think he's a good dude. But I think, he was sticking traders. I still think he's a good dude, but I think anytime. He's, he's, he's a weirdo. He's eccentric. We disagree on a lot of like, you know, he has a moral compass.

I have a different one, but like, here's a moral compass. I have none. Well, his is very, his is very unique. You know, I think most people don't subscribe to his way of life, so to speak You know what you're getting with him and he's not clever enough to be that calculated Right, and it's just like that's what I was saying. I maybe think was a harsh term, right? What I meant was when he was on the show traders he was

He was he was like, oh, I think it's that person Yeah, if he said it you think it was that person was never that person. He was never on the right scent, not once. Yeah. Yeah, so he's not the devil that he was, he made a terrible mistake, he did a bad thing, he had a hard time taking accountability. I've met worse people and I would, you could do far worse than him, I think, as a friend.

It was my take meeting him. All right, we'll be friends. What does thick mean? Dumb, stupid. I think thick, as a friend. It's my take meeting him. All right, we'll be friends. We'll be best mates. What does thick mean? Dumb. Stupid. Thick, thick, thick, dumb, dumb. Little ditzy. Thick. Thick, yeah, thick as a brick.

Thick as a brick. Thick as a brick is the term, yeah. You're friends with the Valley. I am, I'm a little behind, though. That's okay. I want it on a high level. We don't have to get into the play-by-play of the episodes, but speaking of who I think you could do worse by,

Jax obviously, but Jesse right now. Jesse, to me, he seems like an emotional terrorist to his ex-wife, Michelle. Yeah, that's a real tricky one. And watch What Happens Live, Andy was like, would you rather be divorcing Jax or Jesse? And everyone's like, oh, I'd rather be divorcing Jesse, but he does seem like a tricky guy to be getting divorced to.

He wants to emotionally torture the mother of his child in a way that like Jackson. So does Jax. The text he sends Brittany, like he doesn't stop. That man is constantly. Yeah, I think they're both terrible options. It's like, would you rather have someone shit on your face or like rub it all over your body?

All over your body, you get conjunctivitis in the face. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? He's like, easy answer. Nothing with holes, nothing with holes. I would rather be divorcing Jesse. I think he would be an easier option. But yeah, I think he still loves her

and it's all because he's still in love with her. Don't you think? Or you think he just is? Like his ego is so shot that she moved on so fast. It just romanticizes in a way, I don't wanna give him that. Okay, we won't do that, we won't do that. But I think, or his ego is just really, really hurt

that she left him and therefore he's making his way. I think Michelle would say if he loved me so much, why did he treat me so shitty while we were married and never gave me attention or acted as if I was invisible. And now that she doesn't wanna be with him, yeah, now he loves her. Okay, yeah, so you're right. It's not love, it's just he still wants her.

He wants to be on his terms if they end it or not. Yeah, it's gotta be brutal though. I've been co-parenting with a young child, you know, and starting to date other people. Yeah, oh my God. And then you have to know your child's around someone else. And they both seem to be used. We do that, we do that now a lot.

Yeah, but we got lucky. We have like, the mother of your first child is a wonderful human being. We got really lucky. Well, that's the thing. They seem to be using their people, their dating as a way to piss off the other person. It's like everyone deserves to move on

and find love again, but it gives, it's like an icky feeling watching them. It's like you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy. No, no, no, no. That type of divorce with a young child. It's tough. And same with Jax and Brittany. You wouldn't wish that divorce on anyone else. The stuff that Jax is able to just say is the most mind boggling thing. I mean, when they were like, Jax, you've called her fat, you've called her this. He's like, listen,

what do you mean fat? I'm attracted to that type of body type. It's like, what? It's just like that type of body type. Like so clearly it's something that like, okay. He's just, he's so toxic. It's for, do you guys get into Love Island at all? Not really. I, an English. Maybe like the UK, you know,

cause it started in the UK. I know, so an English version from forever ago, which Molly May was on, I watched and I was so into, but since then I haven't. My 83 year old father watches the Australian love Island or the American one or something. He watches one of them. We were with him for Christmas and he goes, Oh no, no, no. Put the, leave that show on now.

It's because my dad can't access the internet. So this is the closest he gets to porn. And it is very close to porn. It is very close. Very close. He's found this show with girls in bikinis, right? And he's all over it. He hit his 80s and he goes,

oh no, that one's all right. She's all right. But this one gives this one the ick. Okay. And I'm like, someone's learned some words. Yeah. It's also on like every single night. So he constantly has something to watch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet he loves it. Yeah. There's like wet slow motion, slip and slide scenes and like laugh dances. Dirty old man TV all day, all day. That's funny. Did he give you like the breakdown, like his favorites, his... No, he literally was like, I'll just leave this one on.

Oh, that one's this one good. This one's a bad person. This one's a good person. Oh, she's all right. They give her a hard time for no reason. There was always one that just leave this one on. Oh, that one's this one good. This one's a bad person. This one's a good person. Oh, she's all right. They give her a hard time for no reason. There was always one that he fancied that they give a hard time for no reason. I think it was an Australian version. I don't know.

Is there an Australian version? Yeah. Australia always always trots out something. I would like to be the host of the Australian bachelor. Cause I've always thought the bachelor is the great, the gay, there's, there's certain game show hosting jobs. So the 1% club, you have to read questions and that type of stuff. And I was telling you off here that I once cost the show a hundred thousand

dollars because I just read a question badly and I had to read it again. And it gave them an extra 10 seconds, which actually made them win the money. Right. Did you get it? Like, did you get a lecture for that? Or did you just, I just was, you know, when you, you stuff up at work and say, you're really helpful, you just walk around like this. Anyone need a coffee?

I'm going to grab one. You're so nice. Yeah. You're so nice to everybody. Hey, you got a new haircut? You know, I love that shirt on you. Yeah. I mean, that's my nightmare because I'm dyslexic too. And like I get hosting opportunities and every time I have to read a teleprompter, I'm always like, guys, just like a heads up. I'm, this won't go. It does get better. Doing the Jim Jeffery show back in the day was like just reading

a teleprompter for 30 minutes. Right. And I would rehearse it through the week and then I'd sit at home the night before and I'd actually go through it. So like a script so that I actually could perform it like stand up. Right. But doing the game show, I can do the chatting thing, doing the audience thing. And then when I have to read the questions, so I always turn around and the questions on the one percent club are always things like, um, if Jane's on a train and it's traveling at four miles an hour and it's four o'clock in the afternoon and that, uh, which country is he in?

Well, she's still in Sydney because these other things are inconsequential. Jane, you know, this type of thing. Right. So, but sometimes you turn around. This is my favorite. You turn around this type of thing. Right. So, but sometimes you turn around. This is my favorite. You turn around to read the question. Okay. And the next question is what number is next in this sequence?

I'm over the moon. And that question comes up once an episode. I'm like, oh, have a break. You have 30 seconds to answer your time starts there. And then when people get the questions wrong, I have to tell them they're stupid. After I've read it wrong in front of them. Yeah. So, so that, that's a harder job. I could never do a show with like a speed round. You have 30 seconds on

the clock, your questions start now. That's over. I'll just be like this, pass. Pass. So deal or no deal. That's a winner. One question, one question, deal or no deal. And just chatting. There's no teleprompter, deal or no deal. That's a killer game to host. Right. Uh, is it cake? Oh yeah. Yeah. I could host. Is it cake? There's a lot of thinking and is it cake?

So I've got, is it cake? Deal or no deal, but the bachelor having to walk out and just go, ladies, um, is one more roast. And then you just sort of duck away. Yeah. You just, uh, yep. I know you all see it. That's the end.

But doing the snake was weird because you did challenges and they were the only bits where I sort of wasn't sort of, um, doing sort of, uh, the company line speech where it's like, you have to hit these marks at this spot during the challenges, you just commentate like you're watching sport, you know, someone's, someone's swimming through fish guts and you're like this, all right, James in the front, oh, Jordan's coming up from behind. It's like a horse race. Fantastic.

That's, that's just a bit of fun doing that. Speaking of the bachelor, they, they on pause last season and Bachelor in Paradise is premiering I think early July, something like that. Why did they put it on pause? What happened? Well, they've had some drama going on internally, I think. And I think also like it just wasn't successful. And I think they wanted to revamp it.

They're shooting it in Costa Rica where they've normally shot it in Mexico. I think they're bringing some of the golden people that, so I think it's going to be different. And I think they're going to maybe, you know, what's the healthcare like in Costa Rico for the golden matchless? That's a great question. You're going to need good insurance for that. Great question. We filmed a snake in Argentina and we were in a place called Iguazu and Iguazu is like,

there's a place called the Iguazu falls and it's where Paraguay, Brazil, and Argentina meet and there's the Parana river. And this is the biggest drug smuggling river on earth because it's international water and those three countries can meet together for the cocaine and get it out into open waters. And so like, we were just like, the locals are like, yeah, that's a drug boat there. There was one time I was just watching the river. There was a bloke just carrying drugs down to the boat. So I bought a big bag and this is how it.

You brought it out. Um, but it's, um, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it was pretty cool, but the waterfalls there, like leave Niagara Falls to shame. They're beautiful, stunning. And the beginning of the show, we start at the waterfalls. Everyone's coming in, in crates and stuff. It's all very fun. It's exciting stuff.

Wow. So visually beautiful as well. Oh, it's visually beautiful. The set we had was unbelievable. It felt like Indiana Jones or something like that. Like it wasn't a set. They'd built like structures in the jungle for the challenges and stuff like that. It was pretty cool.

But if I, if, if I ever eat an epinada again, it will be too soon. built like structures in the jungle for the challenges and stuff like that. It was pretty cool. But if I, if, if I ever eat an epinada again, it will be too soon. I've had, I had so many epinadas. That's the only thing I could eat. This whole idea of Argentinian cuisine. Everyone's like, oh, Argentinian, oh, the food, the food. It's just a sauce, chimichurri. That's all they've got. Have you tried the steak?

Yes. In every country in you tried the steak? Yes. In every country in the world cooks steak. You're not doing anything exciting. So you've sliced it up and it's on a wooden board. You put some chimichurri on the side. It's just a source that it's carrying all the weight of their cuisine. The epinadas are all right, but you can't have too many. Do you ever like when he's doing bits, I've been obviously to Jim stand up. It's incredibly funny.

ever, like when he's doing bits, I've been obviously to Jim stand up. It's incredibly funny. Sometimes he tells a colorful joke that might make some people cringe. Well, about her. He's even put you in the stand up. He says brutal things about me. How does that, how does that work? Does he run these by you? No, he doesn't.

Oh, okay. In my new special, I ask everyone in America, if they see her walking down the street to yell out a racist homophobe. And, and, and we were in Vegas, we were in Vegas last week, last weekend. And he, and he did that bit. So we were walking through the casino and I had a bunch of people shouting racist homophobe. I was like, people are going to think I'm legit.

They were pointing at us. Of course they assume it's me and not the Brown woman. Come on. Okay. I would hope so. They're not going to think that you're the racist. When he's doing his standup, like practicing, you don't comment on any of the material being like, honestly, that one's not that funny.

You should know. Good God, no. And also he runs jokes by me sometimes and I don't laugh. And he's like, you don't get it. She can't see stand up. Uh, if I just tell her a bit, a lot of people can't, a lot of people can't. We normally ring up other comics, but when it's on stage, obviously, yes. Right.

When you go, oh, this is a bit, cause it's not a joke per se. It's a bit. And so I run them past them, but no, but also, also look, when I was younger and single, my standup was about one night stands and taking drugs and revelry, right? And now I'm married with kids. The comedy has to come from somewhere. So we all, we all have to earn a living here.

So I have to, that's why everyone's like my wife jokes or my mother-in-law jokes. Cause where else do the jokes come from? That's true. So you got to go after the person. I'm not offended at all. It doesn't bother me. Like he says really brutal stuff and... And we're still here?

And we're still here. It was true. I did a routine in my last special about when she was pregnant and she said... Actually, no, that did bother me a little bit. The thing is... I think I saw that special. About me looking like ET when I was pregnant and not wanting to fuck me. Am I allowed to say fuck? I wasn't talking about that joke. About me looking like ET when I was pregnant and not wanting to fuck me. I'm allowed to say fuck.

I don't want to talk about that joke. What joke are you talking about? I was talking about the joke when you were pregnant and you were at the baby shower and you said to your friends that you didn't want to have a white baby. You said, I hope the baby's not white. I hope it's a brown baby. But he left out the reason. He left out the reason.

I wanted my baby to be on the brown side. Cause we live in LA where there is a lot of sun and I want some sun care. I don't want to have to worry about that. Yeah. Cause Jim gets burns like a, whatever the sag is for someone that burns quickly. I'm a pale guy. I'm a pale guy. So that was the reasoning behind that.

So did your baby come out white or brown? He's pretty white. White is kid in the reasoning behind that. So is, did your baby come out white or brown? He's pretty white. The whitest kid in the world. Perfect. He came out so white. And I wanted to give him an Indian first name and Jim was like, no, because- You don't have an Indian first name. Why all of a sudden?

I just wanted him to have an Indian first name, but he's super white. So it would have been white. What name did you want to give him? Rozendra. Rozendra. I can't say it properly. It's my dad's middle name. What name did you want to give him? Rochendra. Rochendra. It's my dad's middle name. Then your dad should have had it as a first fucking name. True.

He could have just been Brick. Her father's first name is Derek. True. Okay. Right. And his middle name's Rochendra. And so she wanted to call our kid Rochendra. I went, all right, let's see.

Raj. Baby Raj would have been so cute. What did you go with? Charlie. Very white. Charlie what was his middle name? When you say Charlie, it's very charming. My last name, Dan Raj, my real last name and then his real last name, Nugent.

My real last name is Nugent. I use my middle name as a stage name. And so it got confusing. So I didn't know what to name my kids, whether to give them my real name, because none of the, my wife didn't take my name. So I have different names. So my children have my stage name. I mean, if I, if I wasn't, uh, well, I got famous from going on the bachelor.

And then, so my last name got out, but if I knew I could have a stage name, I definitely wouldn't, I would have changed it for sure. Your last name wouldn't be files. No, it wouldn't be vile. Vile is a good name though. Why? You know, it's fine. You know, sometimes it's vile, but like a lot of time when I'm like, that's so

vile and it's, you know, it's a triggering for me. So your kids didn't get Nugent. They got Jeffries. They got Jeffries. Yeah. Honestly. It's cool. Yeah. They got Jeffries. They got Jeffries, yeah. Honestly, it's cool. Yeah, I feel like you're so famous that like,

if they weren't Nugent, they would be like, your dad's not Jim Jeffries. Your last name's Nugent, you know? They would be like made fun of. Yeah, and also, okay, so my real name is Jeffrey James Nugent and I changed it to Jeffrey James for about three gigs and then I changed it to Jim Jeffries, right? And the first time I ever went on, Jeffrey with a G, right?

The first time I ever went on stage, the guy went, welcome to the stage, Godfrey Nugent. Oh no. The N-U-G-E-N-T, Godfrey Nugent. There's not even a D in my name. Like where did you get Godfrey? Godfrey Nugent. And I thought Godfrey Nugent's not a good stage name. It's not easy to say Godfrey Nugent. So you thought Godfrey Nugent's not a good stage name.

It's not easy to say Godfrey Nugent. So you have a three-year-old son. We have a 15-month-old daughter. What has been your favorite age, like period? Because like our daughter's really getting into like, she's starting to like say words, she's walking. It's really fun. But like, have you had a favorite stage?

I also have the 12-year-old. So I can tell you all the way up to 12, what the favorite stage is. I truly believe the best age with kids is three to five. And you can have a conversation with them. It doesn't matter if they're good at school yet. It doesn't matter because those stresses come. Yeah. Right.

Also, it doesn't matter how they're doing socially because at three, you decide their friends, we're going over to the house and Patty will be there. You know what I mean? Like you make the play dates with your friends and their kids, right? Or they go to preschool and they meet a couple of kids or whatever. So socially, you don't have to worry about him. Education-wise, you don't have to worry about him.

They're still discovering things like our kid is going to Disneyland for his fourth birthday and it's miles away. He won't shut up about it. Right. And that little bit of those little bits of magic don't happen really after six. Right. And also, um, and we all know, you know, like Santa, Santa, Santa's the greatest thing in the world, man, Santa and, and my kids are really into Santa and, and,

and I love it. Both of them? Well, yeah. Yeah. Of course we all believe in Santa man. Santa is important. Santa's important. He is.

I just wondered if the, cause this has happened in my family where like the older siblings think it's cool to like ruin everything for the younger siblings. Oh no, our oldest is like so cute with three year old and like wants to keep that magic alive. He actually did Elf on the Shelf for him last year. Oh fun. Elf on the Shelf is realist. What are you doing?

What are you doing? Elf on the Shelf is very real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. If he's listening. Elf on the Shelf is the best newest thing to come out in the last 20 years, I reckon. What's your elf's name? He hasn't got a name. I don't know, he's just Elf on the Shelf is the best newest thing to come out in the last 20 years, I reckon. What's your elf's name? He hasn't got a name.

I don't know, he's just Elf on the Shelf. You've named him? No, he sneaks into the house. I didn't know you were supposed to name him. I didn't name someone who breaks into my house. Oh my gosh, you're supposed, Charlie's supposed to name him. No, no, he hides in different places. And then it's like, where's Bobby?

Where did Bobby come today? All right, we'll call him. It gets all exciting. We'll call him a Jendra or whatever he's called. Godfrey Nugent. Godfrey Nugent. Healthy Rush. How'd you guys meet?

Raya. Raya, I was like, let's think of something. We both looked at each other to lie. We didn't look at you to lie because it's so uncool. No, we just slid into my DMs. And at first, I don't know what you used to say, but I had to be like, just tell people you slid into my DMs. It's fine. It's what you used to say, but I was just, I had to be like, just tell people you slid into my DMS.

It's fine. It's, you know, cause you want to, it sounds so fucking. Well, it's, it's nice. You, it's nice. Like, you've met each other, like you obviously attracted to him. So you wrote to him and we went on, we went on a date and we actually just lived like 500 meters away from each other. And I think, I think she wouldn't have gone on more dates with me if I wasn't

so accessible because you know, LA traffic, you know, you don't want to drive. That was an equal appeal. Right. So true. Right. Because Santa Monica, because I was local, she was like, I'll give him another go. And, and actually I was very impressed because she hardly drinks and I don't drink it all anymore.

It's coming up to four and a half years now without a drink. And, um, I just finished an episode of the Jim Jefferies show. It was on a Tuesday and I always, that was always my Friday. Right. So I'd always get drunk after the show, do a podcast, get drunk. And then I went out with a few of the crew members. Now I had written to her and, uh, text and we'd organize the date. And then she hadn't written to me forever.

And I like the old man that I am. I always like to have a phone chat before the date. Oh, you like a little check-in? I like to see if you've got some banter, if you can chat, if it's, if it's all prepared texts that you've thought about, whether I can actually vibe with you. And then if I can't, I might cancel the date. You know what I mean?

All of a sudden you're sick. Yeah, I'm busy or whatever. Actually, um... Anyway, but her being a millennial... No, this is not true. This is not true. Okay, she's Generation X. She just aged really well.

Okay, stop. No, this is not true. He's going to say I ghosted his calls and didn't answer because... You didn't answer. No, where I lived in the hill... She had no service. The service, so the texts came through, but I didn't get phone calls through. You still get a missed call, you couldn't call me back for text or something.

No, I really didn't. I really didn't. Did you try to FaceTime audio her? I tried to ring her about four times. It rang out, she didn't answer. I assumed the date wasn't happening. I was like, okay. I've overplayed me hand here, I've her about four times. It rang out. She didn't answer. I assume the date wasn't happening. I was like, okay. I know I've overplayed me hand here. I've rang too many times. I've Yeah.

Four times. It's kind of psychotic. Yeah. But we were chatting and texting and stuff and nothing was happening. And then, so I got drunk. I was out with all the guys from the show, right? A group of blokes, right? And, um, and she's like, Hey, uh, we're still on for this date.

And I'm like, I've been calling you. I haven't been responding. So I assumed that the date wasn't happening. And then she's like, no, I've done my hair and blah, blah, blah. And I went, yeah, I've done my makeup. I've shaved my legs. I am going. Yeah.

I've done my makeup and I've shaved my legs. Right. And I said, well, I'm drunk. I just said, I'm drunk. Right. I'm drunk right now. Honestly. Right. I've been drinking since the middle of the day and I'm drunk. I just said, I'm drunk. Right. I'm drunk right now. Honestly. Right.

I've been drinking since the middle of the day and I'm drunk. Right. And then she went, all right, I'll take a couple of shots of tequila to catch up and I'll meet you and we met at the den on sunset. Oh wow. Right. Where I was drinking with people and I was like, all right. And then we had a little snog at the bar, like 30 minutes into the date.

So it all worked out pretty good. Is that a kiss? Yeah. Yeah. Little snog. Yeah. You know what they call a snog? No., like 30 minutes into the date. So it all worked out pretty good. Is that a kiss? Yeah. Yeah. Little snog. Yeah. You know what they call it? Snog?

No. That's a British, Australia has a term for kissing. That's having a pash. Oh, love that. Yeah. We're having a pash. Pash. Obviously short for passionate.

Of course. But, um, but that, and you get pash rash from the beard. Oh yeah. I even think I heard the term pass in Bluey recently. Wasn't there an episode? Okay. I know. Smoochy kiss.

They say I'm blue. The last gig we all saw each other at was, uh, the Bob Saget benefit. That was a cool gig, man. That was good. Like, like John Mayer was playing and everyone like, like, uh, Jeff Ross, who I adore was up there and he spoke so tenderly of Bob and, uh, Kelly Bob's ex was there. I met her on special forces. That's how I met her.

Right. Yeah. And she's lovely. Lovely. She's lovely. And it's like, uh, you know, it's funny. I never met, I was friends with Bob for years. Bob would, um, even during COVID had come and opened my house a couple of times.

And I knew he had a wife. Um, and we had a dinner plan on the books when Bob died. And so that was like, we were having dinner in a couple of weeks with him and his wife when Bob died. And so that was the first thing we were meant to be having dinner. And she didn't know, but I was like, we did. I can find the texts. I miss Bob.

Bob was a, Bob was a very sweet man, very kind, lovely man. Funny as all balls. I mean, there's my biggest takeaway from the knowing a lot of people who knew them. I never got it. I met him once briefly, but is all balls. I mean, there's some, my biggest takeaway from knowing a lot of people who knew him, I never got to, I met him once briefly, but just in passing, but I hope, I don't think I'll ever be in this case because I think plenty of people have negative things to say about me, but like no one says anything bad about Bob.

He, the only, like, he was- You're like, oh, I can say it once. No, he was always on. Sometimes that irritates people. He was always funny. And some people don't like that. I like that. I like people who are always funny. I mean, if you're, if you're actually funny, it's only annoying when you're not.

I had, I had a sitcom in FX years ago and he was in the episode and Carrie Fisher was in the episode. And I did a scene with Carrie Fisher and Bob Saget, which no one's going to do that again. Cause we're star Wars people. The whole, it was before the me too movement and you can check this episode out, but it was, um, it was from a story. I had a executive in the industry many years ago, slightly me to like do the me too movement to me.

Yeah. Yeah. We're sort of, I, I, I got, I got, I got passed on, not passed on. I got passed that she passed. She made a pass at me. That's what I'm going for. I forgot to add. I forgot to have a talk. Anyway, she made a pass at me. And so I wrote an episode about this whole thing, but Carrie Fisher in this

episode looks at me and says, will you lick my pussy? Right. And she says it four or Carrie Fisher in this episode looks at me and says, will you lick my pussy? Right. And she says it four or five times in the episode. And it's for me to get a TV deal, my character get a TV deal. And I do it in the scene. I get under the table and I was sitting under the table thinking to myself, when I was a kid, Princess Leia, watching Princess Leia in that gold bikini, what I would have done for this moment.

Look at you now. Wow. And she was the coolest, funniest person. I was telling a story about, I was on Jimmy Kimmel and I told a story about my mother getting deep vein thrombosis, right? My mother got deep vein thrombosis on a luxury cruise, right?

Where you're meant to get it on economy seat on a flight. Right. Right? So I go on Jimmy Kimmel and I say, my mother got it on a luxury cruise, right? Were you meant to get it on economy seat on a flight, right? So I go on Jimmy Kimmel and I say, my mother got it on a luxury cruise. Most people get it sitting in economy. Right. I'm on set. I get a phone call from my mother. You have to go back on the Jimmy Kimmel show and tell the American public that you're a liar.

And I'm like, what? She goes, I didn't get it on the cruise. I got diagnosed on the cruise. I actually got it at home. Okay. So my mom's yelling and screaming at me on the phone. I'm in hair and makeup and Carrie Fisher sitting there, right? And I turn on the speakerphone so Carrie Fisher can hear. And then I hang up. And then Carrie Fisher turns to me and goes, your mother and my mother are exactly the same person.

And I'm like, I'll stop you right there, Carrie. Your mother's Debbie Reynolds, who was in, you know, singing in the road, right? Who was a megastar. My mom's a morbidly obese woman in Sydney. He's got deep thangs from bosis. They're vastly different. She's got a DVT.

But she was really, I've just started talking about myself. Let's go back to Jax. Wait, quickly. What is y'all's age gap? 13 and a half. For 18. 13, 18 years apart. Yeah.

She doesn't look that much older than you, man. We have nineties music in common. That's something we bond over. What are you talking about? In the car, we listen to our 90s English music. No, that's the only music that we can listen to the same. That's the only music where we are both fans. Yeah, otherwise, I turn on the,

getting the Tesla and Sabrina Carpenter's on all the bloody time. We've gotten lucky in terms of things things we like that are on now. We both enjoy like we watch the same shows and same stuff and there's more that we have in common that we enjoy than don't. But yeah, there's this like I always want to show her movies from the 90s or the 80s and I make her watch it. Oh, she's I got to show her Back to the Future.

Have you ever seen Back to the Future? I'm sure it was on a list. It was one of my favorite movies of all time. It's the greatest movie that's ever been made. It's the greatest movie on earth. It's all one movie in the same scene. There's the one scene that's on in every movie. It's, it's, it's all one movie.

In a way. In a way. Yeah. It's fantastic. Oh, cause it's all continuous. I tell you what I was at. I bought a ticket to have a photo with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox at Comic-Con with my son. That's a good deal.

And so we lined up, you had to line up forever. And all the nerds that were dressed like Marty McFly waiting to have the photo. Right now, so we're talking about a man in his eighties and a man who's very sick with Parkinson's, right? These are the two people. And so as you get closer to the line, they're like this, please don't touch them. Please leave them alone. Cause you know, like if you give them COVID, they're both done. You know what I mean? Like just, just, just be chill. Just go in there like this.

Keep your hands in your pockets. And my son was, and everyone else was like, like, oh, in scene four, the thing with the thing, you know, all very comic con-y like that. Right. And me and Hank walked in and Hank, don't touch him. Just be cool. Smile, say on he like that. Right. And me and Hank walked in and Hank, don't touch him. Just be cool. Smile, say thank you.

And hello. Right. And Hank comes in and goes, hello. And then stands up to the side and we're like this. And then Michael J. Fox looked at him and he goes, and he actually put his arm around him and pulled him in and put him in and it's the one photo he's got his arm around my son. And that was pretty cool.

And then we had a photo with like Hayden Christians and, and, uh, yeah, Darth Vader, right. And, um, you and McGregor, that was the, the other photo we did. And I walked in and I tried to dress like myself as much as possible. Like I was wearing an outfit from a special because I wanted one of those two to recognize me. Right. So that my son would be impressed. And I walked in and Hayden Christian went, Jim Jefferies. And then you and Regregor went, your dad's a legend.

Made my fucking life. Cool. Made my life. That was the best day ever. That was the most proud my son has ever been of me. Oh, that's sweet. I loved it. That's pretty cool.

I wonder what Rivers will be of us. I hope she never sees The Bachelor. Well, she's gonna watch The Bachelor. Yeah, that'd be great. Look, hope she never sees The Bachelor. Well, she's going to watch The Bachelor. Yeah, that'd be great. Look, man, at least The Bachelor is just you snogging different chicks, right? Sure. Right? Yeah.

My standup is me talking about cocaine, right? And skeletons in my closet. Yeah, but you can be like, I'm a comic and then she's going to be like, is it real? And I'm going to be like, yeah. A lot of the specials, I'm actually on cocaine as well. You're actually doing it on stage in front of everyone. So, yeah, I always worry about that. Like when my kids, my kid just had someone say to him recently, one of the kids at school went, your dad's not funny.

You know, that type of thing. Oh, and then they're going to start watching the clips and then there's jokes that I've made about my child in the clips. It's not easy being a comics family member. It's not easy. What like advice have you given him around that? Like, don't listen to it. Don't, or are you kind of like, oh, he gives a fuck.

I'm just like, man, roll with the punches. People are going to try to find your weak spot in life. That's just what's going to happen. If it's not this, it's going to be something else. Let them tease me. Better than them teasing you. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I don't, I don't care. Like what's the worst thing that you're going to get is like, Oh, my dad was really handsome. He was the bachelor. Like, Oh, that must really hurt to my core. My dad was the most desirable man in America for about three months. Then he went on special forces and was held under water and survived. What a loser.

I'd be more worried about the cowboy boots. Oh, well that's a great place to end it. Huh? The Snake premieres tonight on Fox. You can check it out on Hulu if you're not one of those people who is watching in real time. But it's a great show, check it out, lots of fun. Hosted by yours truly Jim Jefferies. We got the trailer of The Snake

that we're gonna play for the audience. Again, a reminder, it is out tonight, tonight on Fox at nine o'clock. If you don't happen to catch it tonight, it does air on Hulu the next day, so check it out either on Fox or on Hulu. Here is the trailer of The Snake. This is social survival of the fittest.

It's not something I take lightly. I deserve an Oscar for that performance. The Snake is the master class in watching people making friends and faking friends. I will pick you over anyone else. And there's a lot of bluffing in this game. Have I been told I could be manipulative? I am Italian and Puerto Rican. How do you do the math?

These contestants know how to get what they want and stereotypes of their jobs playing to it. As a bounty hunter, you do have to be two steps ahead. I'm a pro poker player. I do this for a living. How do you think being an OnlyFans creator will help you in the game? You'll have to subscribe and find out. Each week they will compete in challenges to become the snake, the most powerful player in the game.

The snake will choose one player to save. Derek. Setting off a chain reaction. Brian. Until there are two left. Leaving the snake with the ultimate decision. She could be a psychopath. Who's lying to my face?

None of us. Ha ha ha. Every act you do in the game has a consequence. Every single person in this entire house lied to me. You have to screw people over. It's just like life. I'm flirting. I'm using Devante.

If you're not the snake next week, Watch your back. Boom. Someone will remember. Shut your mouth. Try to be kind. Try to backstab people. I feel pretty betrayed.

Ah! At the end of the day, it is a game. The games have definitely begun. Somebody's about to get bit. Friendships will be broken up. No one's telling me the truth. You can never underestimate anybody. I'm hooked. I'm in.

Who doesn't want to be involved in that show? Wow. It looks great. How do you prepare for that? You get some like a spray tan, maybe like a little. I was in Australia. I just, I just showed up. No script, no nothing straight in, straight in on the thing.

But, um, oh, well now I can actually, now that I can see the trailer, I could have said so much more. Yeah. So it's a saving ceremony. So one person saves another person saves another person saves another person. So it isn't an actual full vote. So other shows, you know what I mean? So it's snakes down the boat.

It's a very unique show in that respect. So the snake is a play out like a snake. So like I save Nick, Nick can save. Taisy. Taisy can save me, but you got to have a, you got to have a friend in the house. You really got to have two friends. If you don't have two friends, no one's going to save it. Right.

And so, and so people can manipulate like, if you save Nick, Oh, I'll let Taisy save you a lot of alliance stuff. Sure. You know what I mean? But yeah, there was a lot of me just in the middle of a field throwing bugs on people. And that at the beginning, when she says, when I was shocked when I just watched it, when she went, I deserve an Oscar for that performance. I didn't know she wasn't crying. I just found that out there when I was watching the trailer. I remember standing next to her going,

oh, the poor girl's having a terrible time here. I was comforting her. She got you too. After it was over, I was like, you'll be all right. Her name is, uh, Catherine, which is Catherine, if you say it with a New Zealand accent, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine. All right. Well, it looks great. Check it out. It's on tonight or on Hulu tomorrow.

Uh, Jim, so much fun. Please come back. I feel like I took over the bloody podcast and we didn't, we went and talked about what we went to talk about. We talked about the snake. All right. Yeah. I had a great time.

That's what you can have me on here whenever you want. I love being on this show. We love to have you on Tazey. Thanks for coming. Thank you for having me. Every time you come and every time Jim comes, make sure you bring your lovely wife. Yeah. It, uh, we can always.

You're going to come back? Yeah. We didn't get like to real talk about the Valley and Jackson stuff. And I would see next time we'll have you on when it's like to real talk about the valley and Jackson stuff and I would see next time We'll have you on and when it's like real real time like when we can dive deep on an episode We'll definitely bring it back Jim. Thanks for coming buddy. Thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it. Thank you Thanks for listening guys. Thank you to our guests Robin girl boss town Jim Jeffries and his wife Tasey We'll see you back on Thursday. Bye!