The Viall Files - E952 - Love Island USA w/ Cely Vazquez, Erika Priscilla & Scott + Traitors Cast, RHOM & Father’s Day

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  So, Love Island USA just Popped Off and we, of course, have thoughts. And welcoming the iconic Cely Vazquez to the show, we get into everything under the gorgeous, messy, Fiji sun! Also, Traitors cast dropped, and friends of show Erika Priscilla and Scott stop by to get into it all as well as headlines. Grant and Juliana split? JoJo Siwa and Chris have a new reality show? All discussed. Plus, RHOM is back and better than ever! You will not want to miss this.  “I’m so excited to kiki with ya’ll because what was that??” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: [e-mail] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Revolve - For a limited time, you can shop a curated selection our favorite styles at https://revolve.com/viall and receive 15% off your first order with code VIALL. Offer ends July 1st so don’t miss out! Grammarly - Let Grammarly take the buswork off your plate so you can focus on high-impact work. Download Grammarly for free at https://grammarly.com/podcast  FirstLeaf- Enjoy the fresh vibes of spring with wines you’ll love from Firstleaf. Go to https://tryfirstleaf.com/viall to sign up and you’ll get your first SIX handpicked bottles for just $44.95. ASPCA - To explore coverage, visit https://aspcapetinsurance.com/viall Addyi - Go to https://addyi.com to learn more and get back to feeling like yourself. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:45) - Father’s Day (08:43) - Household Headlines (12:48) - RHOM (16:29) - Transition To Love Island (20:51) - Cely Interview (47:03) - Erika and Scott Join (01:10:45) - New Shows (01:12:47) - Traitors Cast (01:15:50) - Outro Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @cely @erikapriscilla @scottycorizzi @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell  

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Offer ends July 1st, so don't miss out. You're crazy. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the VIALL. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon.

I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. I'm your host, Brandon. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vyphiles Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host Nick and boy, gee whiz, Love Island is popping off. Sunday's elimination was wild and we have a lot to talk about. We have Selly from Seasons 2 Love Island USA. She is hanging out in Fiji. She's like the unofficial host of After Sun.

She's also their social media girl there. So she is on the ground in Fiji with the inside scoop. We talk with her. Also this episode, Erika Priscilla, you know her, you love her. She's all over TikTok. Many of you are huge fans. Also her husband Scott, they're dear friends of ours

and they joined us because they're also Big Love Island fans and they are also with us to break down all the Love Island action. Also, Shug is with us again. Hi. She is back, back visiting. I have to say, I'm so excited about the guests today to break down the show.

All very funny people. Really? Very funny people. Really? Yeah. Erica and Scott are some of my favorite friends of yours, I will say. They're some of our favorite friends too.

Yeah. Yeah. How was your father's day, Nick? It was great. I was going to say wonderful and grand all at the same time. Oh my God, it was that good. First of all, I got the most amazing gift. Natalie had a piece of artwork commissioned for me.

It was lovely, it is lovely. It was lovely, not anymore. It was lovely, it was, like an hour ago. Yeah, now that I'm looking at it. It's really beautiful. I'm big into abstract artwork, and Natalie got some. What's fucked up about it though,

is that I have been like obviously having this artist, her name is Sarah York, she's been working on it for months. Now I've had this in the works for quite some time and I've obviously been like, oh my God Nick, are you like, your present, your present, you're so excited and he's kind of the whole time been like, is it stainless steel, like, caraway pots and pans?

And I was like, no, but like, sure, yeah, keep that in your head, you know? Like, expect pots and pans. Nellie's a very good gift giver, and I know she pays attention to like, things that I say I want and need. And that's the one thing I've mentioned that like, I need another set for another location.

So Father's Day obviously was Sunday, and we had, we went shopping the, you know, before Father's Day, Friday, Saturday, and he bought two pieces of artwork while we were out. And I was like, can you stop with the artwork before you get your Father's Day present? You can't have too much artwork. Like this is a, like you're getting,

you're building up your tolerance for artwork. Now you're gonna see mine and be like, oh, I've seen so much artwork. I'm exhausted of artwork. No, no, no, no. This has very sentimental aspects of it. Yes, tell us more about the piece. Can you share?

Yes, it's abstract, but within, if you look closely, you can see River's name in it. It also has two wings that symbolize our babies who are no longer with us, but Natalie miscarried and had unfortunately two miscarriages, so obviously it's very sad. But they are memorialized also in the artwork. It's very beautiful and I love it.

Now it was a great day and we just spent time as a family. Natalie gave me the whole like, it's Father's Day, what do you wanna do? Nick said he didn't wanna change one poopy diaper. I was like, okay. Honestly, I'm definitely not one of those dads who like wants time away from his family on Father's Day. Talk to me in 10 years and maybe we'll have like an army

of kids and maybe then I'll need a break, but I'm definitely not there yet. But I was like, yeah, sure. I guess maybe no poopy diapers. I was just like, throw it in there for fun. Somehow, some way on Father's Day, I don't understand how this happened. I ended up at Target.

I honestly, when we got out of the car at the Target parking lot, I was like, this is crazy. Yeah, that was, what's the equivalent of me ending up at Target on Father's Day? No, that honestly is really wild. We just needed some household products. But I went.

That's how much I love my wife. I know, and we were like, let's run some errands, we gotta go to the grocery store. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna spend time with my wife, with Father's Day. Did you have kind of a to the grocery store. I was like, you know what, I wanna spend time with my wife, which father's doing. Did you have kind of a fun time at Target? I powered through.

Okay. I was like, it's time, and Nellie said, okay, because any other day, she would've, she's like, I have some more lanes to go down. Well, I don't enjoy it with him, it gives me anxiety. I can't like stroll the aisles, I can't like look at what I wanna look at. It's like, I feel like I'm like, if I walk down,

it's like, what are you going down the shower head aisle for? We don't need shower heads. And it's like, I just wanna. I'm like, you don't know what's down there. She's like, she just no Target? I'm like, for what? She's like, I just, you know. Yeah, no, I do know.

I understand that sentiment totally. That makes sense. I'm like, yeah. Sorry. Anyway, somehow I ended up in Target. I'm not in Target on Father's Day. Did you see Taylor, Frankie Paul's comment under my Father's Day post for you?

I did. What did she say?'s Day post for you? I did. What did she say? How much I love you. What did she say? That her and her mom talk about how much I love you. Love your family. That was really sweet. That's nice.

I know. Nick, we actually have a little gift from you from the household. Oh boy. Oh. For Father's Day. Is it more art? Cause I don't think Natalie liked that.

Yeah. Can you wait? It's a, let's just say it's a little pick me up. Oh, yeah. Are you ready? I'm ready God no Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh don't stop it. You're ruining it for me. Don't stop it.

Oh my god. I can't. I can't. That is the worst thing I've ever seen. So we will send that to you. Oh my god. That's amazing. So bad.

Well done. That's bad news. So bad. Put it to the last frame. Put it to the pointing at the end. It's really fucking scary. Oh, I don't know what's worse. Is it me doing the dance or am I the braids in the bathroom?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. to the last frame, but the pointing at the end. It's really fucking scary. Oh, I don't know what's worse, this, me doing the dance or the braids in the bathroom? The point is crazy. For all of you listening to this,

you have to go check out the YouTube. It's the Whitney hospital video, but with Nick's face on it. You're a big fan of Whitney. You love Whitney. I, Whitney's, other than Taylor, Frankie, Paul, might be the only irreplaceable person on that cast. I mean, they're all special women and they all. This is all just good and fun.

We, you know, it's definitely no. I don't think Whitney appreciates it though. This is not her. This is Nick. This is Nick. It's not even Whitney appreciates it though. This is not her, this is Nick. This is Nick. It's not even Whitney, it's me. Just curious, did she have braids in her video? Oh she did, okay.

This is everything about this video except it's my face perfectly. It's really scary. It's really good. It's so bad, so bad. But yeah, no, it was a great Father's Day from beginning to end. I got to cook. He got to cook. He got to cook, I benefited, I flew in Father's Day from beginning to end. Yeah, I got to cook.

He got to cook. He got to cook. I benefited. I flew in. And as did I benefit. Yeah. That was just like another day of me being Cinderella. He cooks, he cleans. I was a good little housewife today.

You loved every second of it. I had a great Father's Day. It was wonderful. We really enjoyed it. Headlines, give it to us, Leia. Jojo Siwa and Chris Hughes are in talks for a reality TV spinoff series on ITV. That's great. In talks.

Like what is a reality TV show about? It would be a fly on the wall show following the pair and what they've been up to since they met on Big Brother to air later this year. Is this a British show or is this an American show? Well, it's on ITV, so I feel like it's in the UK. Honestly, that makes it more interesting to me immediately. I mean, we had Robin, Girlbosstown on, who was like,

JoJo Siwa is for the Brits. Like, she is, they accept, like, I feel like America kind of doesn't accept JoJo for who she is. And they poke fun at her, but like. Don't appreciate the way they should be. The UK loves JoJo. Sometime over the pond for JoJo, we'll do her good. Blake Lively subpoenaed Scooter Braun

amid ongoing legal battle with Justin Baldoin. Scooter Braun cannot catch a break. I mean, this man, honestly, he doesn't need one. Don't give him a break. Let's keep going. Who else? Does it say why? I came in kinda out of left field.

While a federal judge has dismissed Baldoni's $400 million defamation and extortion lawsuit against Lively, her original suit against the director and co-star remains set for trial. Oh, that's right. No, because Scooter Braun owns the comp, that's right, no, because Scooter Braun owns the, that's right, I forgot about that. He owns, apparently, the company that does the, like,

the astroturfing, the social media that goes after people. He owns that company, that's right, I forgot about that. Holy shit, yeah, that makes so much sense. How do people not think that's a real thing, then, if Scooter Braun's behind all of it? Like, the scum of all scum, really? We're like shocked that, oh that's crazy. So she, what did she do with him now that we all understand?

She subpoenaed him. She subpoenaed him, oh okay. So that, like he allegedly owns a company that allegedly like bullies people online and like does the whole like social media manipulation and boosts you know trolls and all that. Do we feel like maybe he's behind everything that everyone's saying about Justin Bieber right now?

I hate to drop that on ya. Good for thought. Harvey Weinstein found guilty of sexual assault. Duh. Thank God. Duh. A couple more stories in the news. We have a couple Bachelor Nation breakups. Grant and Juliana have split.

Quicker than I thought. It was honestly not as a surprise. I mean, that's not shade. It's just like, you know, the odds are stacked against every Bachelor couple, but this was, they seemed like they were pretty into each other and like it was only been a couple months. You know, you're out in the real world.

Yeah. With your bulletin boards. What was the other one? Yeah. Well, half Bachelor Nation, half Dancing with the Stars, I guess, Jen Tran and Sasha Farber have split as well. That's devastating. I feel like that was maybe a show mance.

How are we feeling? I agree. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I just felt it was weird that they would never confirm or deny the relationship. It was always just like this cheeky, like, I don't know, are we together?

It's like, I mean, okay. If you don't wanna claim your man, babe, don't claim your man. Well, he's still wiggling his hips on Instagram. His hips do not stop. That man is Shakira. You know who else is wiggling his hips on TV? Tom Sandoval and the most extras are auditioning

for America's Got Talent. Oh boy. That man does not stop. He's got no quit in him. He needs to be on TV is what he says. He's got no quit in him. I respect it now. Trader's really torn, gave him a new shot.

Let's see what he does. He's on House of Villains. Oh yeah. He might come back for the valley. He's auditioning for the valley. Well before we get to our guest, Celia Vesquez who was previously on Love Island USA and is at the villa as we speak.

She is there doing the Lord's work, running social media, she's on Aftersun, she is on the ground getting all the tea from Love Island. She joined just momentarily along with our friends, the hilarious Erica Priscilla and her husband Scott, equally hilarious, dear friends of ours, they joined us as well. They're also big Love Island fans that break it all down.

But before, Real Housewives of Miami is now on the air. We're giving it a shot, we're trying it out. It seems promising. What is the quote from, just because, no, what is the quote from Marisol? What did she say? Sometimes what's right for the whole

is not right for the soul. Honestly, it feels like something someone would have tattooed on them that they thought was really cool at one point. Where would you put that tattoo? Right under the belt line? I feel like it would probably be, no, it would be a wrap around the thigh.

Oh yeah. Where it would look kinda cool and be like, ooh, what does that say? And then it's like what's right for the whole isn't always right for the soul. Yeah, so we have some potential messy divorces going on this season. Lisa, Alexia, Larsa still has drama with Marcus,

Michael Jordan's son. I will say the picture of that man doing cocaine is a crazy photo. I don't, I mean, if you're gonna be a nepo kid, don't be a loser. You don't have to be awesome, you don't have to do what dad did or whatever, you don't have to, but just be nice and normal.

I know, I just think it's very hard for someone. Look at sweet Chet Hanks. You know, he's pulled it together. He's coming back. But he's been right back around. He's back in that Kate Hudson basketball and he's great in it. He's pulled it, he's coming back. He's been cast. He's back in that Kate Hudson basketball and he's great in it. Very, very good in it.

Very good. Yeah, Chad's on the bouncing back. Yeah, because he's a true Neppo baby because he's a deep star. That boy is a star talented through and through. So if you are a true talent. Yeah, I feel like it might be a little bit different for athletes.

Well, yeah. You know? Yeah, an athlete, it might be a little bit different for athletes. Well, yeah. You know? Yeah, an athlete, yeah, that's a different standard. That's harder. You can't really like- That's harder. You can't lash out. But you also can't like, you know, have your dad just like talk to whoever

to get you in a movie, you know, or like what, you know, like you actually have to be good. You have to play. For sure. You have to like, you know, score, block. Yeah, but there's a lot of things he could do. He could like work for, he could run like a front office or something. He could do things other than play basketball

more than just doing lines of cocaine. Is he good at basketball? He played in college, you know, like, I'm sure he was better than most people for sure. Is he better at basketball when he does cocaine? I doubt it. Good question. I'd be very fast.

Anyways, he's not living up to dad. Yeah, that's a bummer. The sweet angel. You know, he'll go through this and hopefully come out on the other side. Well, we'll see. What did you think, Leia? This is my first time watching the show. I haven't seen the previous season,

so I'm coming in pretty fresh. So it was a lot of me trying to like figure out who the players are and who they were talking about. But I mean, the fight with Lisa and Larsa at the party was definitely spicy. Like Lisa kicking Larsa out of the house and then Larsa staying, and then Lisa kicking her out again.

I can tell that this is gonna be a good season, just based off of that. It's really interesting that it's like Miami or New York. You would think some of these more iconic cities would be like shoe-ins for great Housewife franchises. I think Miami has a lot of potential going in, but like Potomac is like by many people's opinions, like a top franchise.

Salt Lake City is obviously one of our favorites. Like some of these smaller cities have like more entertaining group of women. Stephanie wasn't even in this episode, right? The new housewife. If she was, she didn't leave an impression. Anyways, you know, it's got potential. We'll see where it goes.

See where it goes. We'll see where it goes. Up next, all right, we break down Love Island. Sunday night's episode was wild. Obviously, the show comes out almost every night. Probably many of you listening to it who are watching in real time like we are, already know what happens Monday night,

the fallout of Huda not being kicked off, and then Ace saying what he said. We'll break it all down. I'm very excited to watch Monday night's episode, but obviously we'll get into all that on Thursday's episode of Reality Recap. Paige DeSorbaugh was in this episode of Little Island. That was cool.

Maybe that was like Bravo's way of saying, sorry for cutting out interesting scenes in the season that you guys all would have been very interested in watching and putting it in like the, like why do they have, why do they even have this bonus episode? Why don't, you know, it's just, I guess it's because maybe it's on Bravo.

I keep forgetting that it's like a Bravo show and not a Peacock show, you know, where they're like, you know, Love Island can be like, tonight's episode's an hour and 22 minutes, fuck it. You know? Totally. You know, where like on Bravo, it's like, well, you know, we have to keep it to 44, you know.

That's very true. Every episode has to be 41 minutes. There's your answer. That's why they're forced to cut good scenes. Anyways, they brought Paige back, the host of DATE. All right, let's break down Love Island, starting with Sally. Gramerly, if you can't spell like me

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We're ready? Yes, oh my God, I'm so excited to kiki with y'all because what the fuck was that? Oh, Sally, oh my God, that was crazy, crazy. What was that? I don't even know where to start. I mean, I feel like obviously we want to get into like the ending, the elimination. We haven't been talked, we haven't, it's been, we're three episodes now we haven't talked

about, right? Like since we last recapped it. You're asking the wrong person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three episodes, nine, 10 and 11. Where do you want to start? Where do you want? Okay.

Should we start with the bombshells? No, we have to start with the elimination. Oh my God. It's too burning. It's burning. It's burning. All right, Sally, my first question actually, and I was wondering, when there's a day off for us when we're watching After Sun and we take a break

from Love Island because there's no episode, what's the cast doing? Do you guys get any time off? Are they still falling in love? Are they still making avocado toast? Or is it like, do you guys get any time off? Are they still like falling in love? Are they still like making avocado toast? Or is it like, can you reveal those secrets? They're kind of good about making sure that, like for continuation purposes,

that we don't miss anything. A lot of times they separate them or they make them watch movies or they have like down days. Okay. So yeah, they make sure that there's nothing that we are missing. And they always have like a days. Okay. So yeah, they make sure that there's nothing that we are missing. And they always have like a chaperone with them,

making sure if they like chat about anything, that should be a part of the show. They like shut that shit down. So they're not letting Huda and Jeremiah sleep together and have her whisper in his ear, like asking if he will allow her to like follow his location. They shouldn't be. Yeah, no, that should not be happening.

All right, all right. Follow his location. They said at me. Yeah. No that should not be happening Alright, alright, Sally what were you aligned with America in terms of who they voted for? Those were my exact the bows actually my my You're like I am America The only one I I wanted well I didn't anticipate the Charlie and Hannah love affair, but I've been team Charlie since he showed up. I do not, I don't fucking get it.

He's a great looking guy, he's got a sexy British accent, he seems nice, he's self-aware, he seems like he's aware of the ick, so to speak. He understands, a lot of guys don't even know that it's possible for them to like turn off women by like simply like, you know, being too light or whatever it is. But like Charlie knows and like these women,

like the women, like I didn't get it. I don't understand. No, I agree. I'm right there with you. Charlie was literally my pick from the beginning. Like when they posted them as bombshells, him and Ciara, I was like, they are both so fine. Like, and so many, there was like an uproar on the internet

being like, this isn't what we asked for. I'm like, what are we even talking about? Like they're fine as hell, especially him. Like he would have been my pick if I was in there 1000% that man is fine as hell. And he has such a good personality. Like I will say, I did vote to put Hannah and Bette together But only because I saw like Hannah was like mounting this man. I was like, okay, she wants it a little bit

So I was like, let's just see what's here not thinking that they would have ever voted Charlie out and now I'm devastated Apparently like her making out with Pepe. Is it Pepe or how do you pronounce his name? Pepe Pepe Pepe I guess it Pepe or how do you pronounce his name? Pepe? Pepe? Pepe? Um I guess that was just like an appetizer for Hannah. She was just like I don't know like. No one has any take on why Charlie is not liked by the women? I don't. Nothing? Have you heard? Like you're in VG. I have no idea. I'm I'm sat there confused as well because I'm like why are not all right these girls not going fucking? Have you met the cast in person?

Not the ones that are currently in there. I get to see them as soon as they like come out and I have like a little moment. So I've met Charlie, he's incredible. He's just, he's finer in person. Like how tall is he? Because like my only guess, because like I feel like women like stature, you know?

And it's like sometimes it's a great-looking guy And it's like I don't know maybe he's like five ten a buck seventy and he's no man's is tall I was like, ah, what the fuck then? I don't get it. I don't get it either. I really don't get it Like maybe it was just the long-distance thing. Maybe these maybe there's all practical women and they're just like Yeah, maybe he smells, we can't, you know, that's the one sense we don't get. No, no, I will shut that narrative down, that man does not smell. Okay, great.

There's nothing wrong with him. I would think maybe that it could be something like, I will say there's like a barrier between like the way that they speak and the way that they express themselves, like even me just like hanging out with Callum, it took me a while to like understand his l lingo and really understand a lot of the shit, half the shit that's coming out of his mouth. I'm like, what are you even on about? But maybe it is a UK, the way they speak type

thing. I don't know. Just a little disconnect. Yeah. Because even when I saw Hannah and Bepa talking, I was like, oh, she seems like she's into this, but like only probably because they're right here with like language wise and the way that they speak, you know what I mean? I don't know. I guess. I see that. Who do you blame the most on the elimination? Do you blame Austin or Amaya? Do I blame Austin or Amaya? I blame Maya. She pissed me off because I'm like, how are you going to be crashing out crying about the fact that like Hannah is your really good friend? And then he had, he had a moment to, uh, Charlie had a moment to be like, yo, we had this conversation. Please don't vote me out.

And she still voted him out. Like I was so confused. I didn't understand. Yeah. Right. I don't know. What do you all think? No, I was expecting Hannah.

Like you would think that Hannah would give a mile like a look be like hey Like I'm sure like, you know, I know how this shit works in reality TV Like what we saw voting it like was I don't know like a ten minutes I'm sure that shit took forever the elimination, you know, like they had time they were giving each other signals You know what I'm saying? They had time to communicate Somehow some way. And I don't know. My conspiracy theory is that Hannah maybe faked her interest in Charlie

because if Amaya is really her girl and she's really interested in Charlie, I don't know how Hannah doesn't get that through to Amaya in time for her to vote. I will say, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but I'm gonna tell y'all. When we have votes like that, you're right. It fucking is like eons long. And we see like two seconds of it, right? They when they like stop, as soon as they tell them, like y'all are gonna vote, they put each person into the farthest parts of the villa away from each other. There's no making looks at each other. There's no like, who are you voting for?

Like, I remember when I was on games, like I would always try to like, look for my best friend, Justine, and no, they would make sure to like, no looks, no whispers, nothing. You're fully like, those are your own choices. Damn. Yeah, that's a good BTS. Thank you. That is because it's like probably the last thing that Amaya knew was that like she was feeling, that Hannah was feeling Pepe and that here Charlie is like trying to find

a different connection, like scrambling just because he wants to stay on the show. And so she, that was probably her last thought. No, I mean, yeah, as soon as it was down to Amaya, I knew it was Charlie. And then I was like in split, in real time, I was like, oh, well, maybe she's gonna, because of Hannah, but-

But he did have that speech. Charlie did give this whole, we just had a moment, we've connected never before. Yeah, but it was one sided though. But maybe he's just pressing to stay. At that point, you don't know if he's fighting for his life or is he fighting for Hannah, you know what I'm saying? What do you have to say?

It's Hannah's fault. Right, because she was kissing that one guy. I say it's Hannah's fault. Well, cause Charlie got up and he was like, just so you guys know, Hannah and I had a really special connection just now and Hannah said nothing. Mm, that is true. And maybe if she had said something, they would have said.

Yeah, we don't know if maybe she did say something. I don't know, from my perspective, I thought it was one from Amaya. Like I just thought that's a weird one. Cause I'm like putting myself in her shoes and I'm like't know, from my perspective, I thought it was one from Amaya. I just thought, that's a weird one, because I'm putting myself in her shoes, and I'm like, if that was my friend, even if I knew my friend was maybe still teetering on both, you're gonna call that your best friend in the villa,

and then vote out a man that she's kind of still, like, I don't know, I'm just like, it's so weird, it's weird. When Austin immediately said, I fucked up, I fucked up, what do you think he meant? I don't know. I feel like Having been in eliminations like that. You just never there's no right choice Especially because everyone's so bonded like you're there in their own little bubble. I feel like he probably

He probably knew he still would have picked Charlie, but I think for him It's probably hard having two of his boys up there. I think he picked, he's the one who picked Taylor, right? Oh sorry, yeah, he picked Taylor. Yeah. But I feel like it was probably, he probably was like, fuck, should I have picked, I don't know. I actually don't know. Austin just be talking a lot too, so.

I feel like, didn't all the men but Austin vote for Amaya? I mean, Huda? I think so. Well, how many did she get in the end? I mean, Huda? I think so. Well, how many did she get in the end? She got two. Yeah. You got two.

Well, Ace and... Ace and Ike. Ace came for Huda. Like, I was, Ace was kinda getting on my nerves, but like, I will say this about Ace, he speaks his mind, but that was like, when Ace was talking, and like everyone knew he was about to say Huda, I was like,

you know what, honestly, that was the one silver lining of Huda staying, is like now. The drama. Like the drama that is definitely gonna follow because he pulled no punches. But good for him, somebody had to say it. Do you feel like even though Jeremiah and Iris are coupled, is that really gonna change Jeremiah and Huda's relationship?

Like, aren't they just, they're not gonna sleep together or where they could, I guess, go to soul ties together, right? I mean. Yeah, that's a tough one. Cause it's like they have had this entire time and they seem pretty like set on each other. Although I feel like it's fraudulent from Jeremiah.

I don't know if this is actually gonna do anything. Or maybe if there's like a big enough like blow up in this next episode like if Ace really does end up like speaking all of his truth then like really puts it all out there. I mean now it's kind of like they're they voted Huda in her face like they can't hide you know their feelings about her anymore and I feel like every time the boys tell Jeremiah how they feel about Huda it makes him him spiral a little. So maybe if they like tell him enough, he'll be like, maybe I should see something with Iris. But I felt like he got, I felt he got a little bold with her tonight when he was like, yeah, I kissed her. Like he started

to feel a little defensive, which makes me think that maybe Jeremiah is turning on her. Yeah, I mean, listen, Hoda's got nothing but notes for that man. Everything he does, she is correcting him. And when, I mean, it's just like, yeah, I mean, listen, I've only dated women with strong personalities, but there is a spectrum of strong personalities. And there is like, you know, my wonderful wife Natalie,

who is like just, just walks in a room and she sparkles. And then there's like, I've dated women where it's just like, hey, I'm gonna take a quick 10 minute shower. And they're like, came out like that was 20. You know, like you said 10, you know? And that's given hood up. Like I feel like she just has a lot to work on herself. Like she's like such an anxious attachment style.

And we're watching that, like with an avoidant. And it's just like, it's gonna break it down. Yeah. No, totally. Love language 911. Yeah, for sure. How did you feel about her telling Nick that she's a mommy? I'm so sorry. I'm obsessed with Nick. Oh, God. Unfortunately, everything that that man does would work on me. He is so fine. And in that moment, I literally just could not stop focusing on how fucking hilarious he is. Like a what? A dog? This is so heavy. It's just like, you know, and why I just don't like, why is it a big secret?

Like your man knows the ladies know,, like what are we doing here? Just like, why are we keeping your daughter a secret? Yeah. I just feel like I don't really understand the type of reaction that she's expecting for people to have. Like I will let my hats off to a single mother all day, every day.

Like that's incredible. But like, what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to be like throwing a party every time this woman announces that she's a mother? Like, but the thing is, is that she says it in a way where it's like, I'm a mom, not like I have a daughter. It's like, you know, which it's it, which feels different to me for her to be like, it feels like she's trying to seem like it's more about her and less about her daughter, you know, which feels like weird to me having a daughter myself.

Yeah, I share that same sentiment. Yeah, I'm just a little like confused by it because I'm like, you're on this show. I feel like it's such an incredible moment to have like a representation for young mothers and young single mothers at that. And like, it's just it's unfortunate. This is like she's delivering like I'm a mommy. I'm a mommy. Instead of like, I'm, I'm, I'm, Mamacita? I'm the, literally, she's like, instead of being like, I have this wonderful daughter who is my

entire universe and like, she's so great or like, I'm the mom of this really great four-year-old. She's just like, I'm a mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Call me mommy. I'm a like, I'm a mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Call me mommy. I'm a mommy. I'm a mommy. And then Nick's like to dogs.

It's just crazy. I'm a dog. What are we talking about here? And what makes Nick so hot? Because he's obviously attractive, but like all the women are into him. Have you, but you haven't met him in person? Mm-mm.

Okay. I think he has a really great personality. He seems really funny. Yeah, he's a funny dude. He just seems like very authentically himself. Like, and he has some pretty good takes. Like I agree with a lot of some of the shit that he says. And I'm like, and he's just, yeah, he's just, I mean, he, he started the hudda vote and he had some guts because like she, yeah, that's her eyes being bloodshot. Just like staring at these men. Her lashes like gluing as she cries. No, it was like simultaneous like what from like a few people

when they said her or his name. I was like, Oh my God. You really did feel like they were genuinely shocked. No, that was just insane I literally felt like we were I felt like I was watching an episode of black mirror Like I was like what is happening right now? Like it was so nuts But like even when they asked when ariana asked her like why do you think America would vote Jeremiah? And she's like, oh probably cuz Iris like showed some interest like to me It's kind of like is there there no self-awareness here? Or it just baffles me.

I don't know. It's also the way that we can see just the hypocrisy of the way she holds Jeremiah to this incredibly high standard, but yet not herself at all. We'll throw ass, we'll throw tongue, anything in a challenge. and then if he does one thing, it's like, I'm watching you, the fuck you doing, you better lock it up,

take that tongue out of that mouth, it's like, it's just, again, I just keep telling myself, it's like we're eight days in, what, two weeks, right? Like, how can, how, I don't know. I'm curious, I mean, like, I'm so fascinated by this show, like for so many reasons, but you guys are all becoming famous in real time. You know, you're in this bubble, we're all watching you essentially live, right? And then whenever you leave, you know, the villa, like you have, you know,

it's like most other reality TV shows, you film it, you get done filming, you wait like six months, a couple months a year, whatever, you like go back to your shows, you film it, you get done filming, you wait like six months, a couple months, a year, whatever, you go back to your normal life and then it errs and it's like a whole nother thing. Do you think there's a chance Huda watches it back and sees a different version of herself? Or do you think she will just be like,

yeah, this is who I am? I don't know, from what I've seen in the past, a lot of people will try to like blame the edit. And that's a hard that's a hard one because it's like, yes, it is true that we only see one hour out of their 24. But at the same time, because it is semi live, there's no cutting and tasting like I'll see some takes online of people being like, oh, this is so edited in a way and I'm like, no, but you guys don't understand. There's no time for them to edit anything that's not actually happening or to edit one conversation into another. What you see is basically what is happening.

So I don't know if she would watch it and take accountability for the way that she behaved. Because I've just seen a lot of people don't. Yeah, I can see her blaming the edit. Yeah. Big time. Do you think there's any chance she uses this as a wake up call going forward?

Because I think basically, Ace and Nick's point where it's just like, you're kind of killing the vibe, right, like this is, you know, it's so early, we're what, 11 days in, that's like, we're not even a third of the way done, and like by day two, she was calling dibs, she was just kind of ruining Jeremiah's experience, and this is both an experience and a chance to find love,

and it's just identifying herself as the mom of the house. It's just a little too much for everyone, and I wonder if she will just maybe use this as an opportunity opportunity because I think it's different when the House votes versus America votes. And there's no, like Iris being matched with Jeremiah wasn't based on anything other than America being fed up with Huda.

It wasn't the connection. America was being petty. Yeah, America was being petty. You know? Like we saw basically six seconds of virus being like, yeah, I came, like I'm hot for Jeremiah. We're being so diva, that's crazy. If you really think about it, that's like so messy of us. I know, I know, but I kind of love us.

I love us. I know. I love us too. kind of love it. I love us. I know. I love us too. But that was crazy. I don't think Amaya and Austin understand the weight that's on their shoulders, because America was just begging, begging. Yeah.

I kind of love it though. I love having this much control. Not control, but like, it's just fun. It's fun. Yeah, it's fun to feel like you did something you know yeah but we also need to see that we need to see the fallout from this like Huda needed to stay because we need to see what happens next like she's good TV and this is I mean I also feel like she makes the

bombshells uncomfortable like you know when they come in it's not it's not a welcoming environment it's not like have environment. It's not like, have fun at the challenges. But like, when we get back, let me tell you what's up. And like, she was like, that's a horrible person. Oh, my god, I almost forgot about that. And then the fucking exorcism backbend that she's like, she literally like, broke her back telling this woman to get off of her man. Meanwhile, she was just sucking face like five minutes ago.

No, dogging that man down. It was crazy. Oh my God. But I will say though, how much is Jeremiah at fault too though? Cause it's like this man does not speak up. It's also him kind of playing the game and not saying,

yo, this is crazy, I'm gonna go explore other things. Every time his boys try to tell him anything about Huda, he's like, okay, yeah, ask me, but also, what do y'all want me to do? I like her. So it's also kinda like he's right there too. You know what I mean? Do you think?

Well, there was, I think we forget, because early, it was episode two, and Jeremiah, he was the one who was like, if we win, right? Then he kind of corrected himself. He's like, but if we end up together. And early on, Hooda just obsessed with Jeremiah and I think a lot of people are wondering, is Jeremiah just like, Ace understands the show.

Ace knows that this is, play the long game. So much so that I was getting annoyed, be like, just date fucking Shelley and just like, just do it. And I was like, he's maneuvering almost too much, where Jeremiah was like, you know, he was like, oh I'm just gonna lock in to Huda, and thinking like this is how I'm gonna win,

not realizing like they have so long to go. And do you think there's any chance that like, Jeremiah is faking his intensity with Huda rather than like it being the real deal? Yes, 100%. That's why I'm like, I understand like, yes, Huda has like this weird manipulative like thing going on, but it's also like,

Jeremiah is not really a victim in my eyes. Like he's also very much playing the game and I feel like he's doing what he thinks America would want him to do, which is to stay with the woman who's a mother because he's a good guy. But I don't know, I feel like it's both of them being fraudulent and that's why they've been together this whole time.

Well, now he knows that America wants him to break up. Yeah, I wonder what that'll do to his the way he starts playing the game strategy. Yeah, strategy. I can't wait to see the fallout. Who do you think is going to be the first to crack and cost more? Oh, I love this question. Honestly, all of them are actually locked in like Nick.

That's a blur. I feel like he's going to be like a kid in a candy store. I feel like Jeremiah probably by then will probably want to explore as well. Ace is going to be going crazy. Austin's going to be going. I feel like all of them. I feel like Charlie probably would have been the only one who wouldn't have. I know. I'm so mad. I love Charlie. I just justice for Charlie. I love him too. I know I'm so sad. Although selfishly I'm happy I get to have him on after son. Are we gonna, are you gonna make some moves maybe? Like Sally and Charlie?

No, you know, I actually met him the other day and I just felt so bad. He was so sad. Like there was just no capitalizing off of that. I was like, take your time to process. All right, well his DMs I was like, take your time to process. You see what's up. All right, well those DMs I'm sure are open, Sally. Yeah.

Oh my God. Sally, thanks so much for your time. We gotta let you go, but it's been a pleasure chatting with you. Can you please let my audience know where they can follow you, find you, all that fun stuff? Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I'm actually such a big fan of all y'all,

so this was so much fun. Well, please come back. We're a lot, we'll be covering it a lot going forward. So let's make this happen again as the as the season unfolds. I'm literally so down. I'm always ready for a yapp session. All right. Well, yeah. So like we're going to be a fun way. Yeah.

Yeah. Plug away. Yeah. You guys can just search my name, I guess. So you ask us, C.E.L.Y. I'm at Sally on Instagram and. Sally Vasquez, C-E-L-Y. I'm at Sally on Instagram, and then Sally Vasquez on everything else. All right, Sally, appreciate you. We'll talk soon. Thank you guys. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Really enjoyed Sally. We're gonna have to bring her back. I feel like we're getting like, you know, on the ground information. I definitely need like, I definitely need the like, in the villa,

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including boxed morning, at addie.com slash PI. Guys, welcome to the show. Thank you for having us. Were you one of America who voted for Iris and Jeremiah? 20 minutes late. We were. We were a little late. And you know what? I feel better that we didn't vote. You wouldn't have voted them?

Well, I didn't want to be responsible for this. You know what I mean? So I feel a little better. You didn't want blood on your hands? Yeah, exactly. Do you like Huda? I think that's a multi-level answer. Yeah, I think honestly, she's okay. I just think she's like playing the game wildly. And so is Jeremiah. You know, I have like so many thoughts, like a lot of people are like going after her, but it's like, really he is as responsible. You know what I mean? Like, I think because so many thoughts, like a lot of people are like going after her, but it's like, really, he is as responsible, you know what I mean? Like, I think because she

says the just the most, the cringiest, like, you know, everything she says is turned into a sound. You let me follow your location. Yeah, that was crazy. She whispered it like, you didn't even have to why talk about it now. Like you don't even have a cell phone number. She just wanted to start a fight so that she can make up with like you didn't even have to, why talk about it now? Like you don't even have his cell phone number. Like you don't even have his number. She just wanted to start a fight

so that she could make up with him by like giving him another hand job. Yeah, I don't know. And they say they made love. They fucked. They made love. Yo, that's crazy. Actually Scott and I were thinking about that.

We were like, I don't know what the fuck would happen like in a room like that. I don't know how they do that. It has got to be like absolutely pitch fucking black in that room. I actually was thinking about that. I'm like, I'm sure it's pitch black because people would be like, what? Like, you know, but actually, if you look at how close the beds are to one another, they are extremely close to each other.

So either way, you're you're hearing you're hearing ruffling. You're you're definitely hearing the sex Also, it sounds like she didn't get up to pee afterwards and I feel like she has a UTI No condom are they providing condoms there They're definitely providing condoms They're not providing condoms because the herpes that is going around on these people's faces They're not providing condoms because the herpes that is going around on these people's faces Today at the campfire Nick definitely has something that was well like and then like they don't care they're all making out I guess you know what I've had a cold sore before like it's not that crazy

It's just that for a show like this. It's like it is wild to see one I don't know that I've ever seen one and And now I'm just like basing. A little BTS for reality TV. Type two will get you the boot. You won't, they test for both, but like type one. They let that one slide. A nurse once told me they wouldn't have a show if they didn't let people with type one not come on the show.

You know, listen, they're normalizing Mousores. It's fine. They might almost be encouraging it because they were having Nick make out with a lot of people. Everyone. Like it's your time. No one hesitated. I've been wound. They're like put it on me. No one hesitated. Justice for Charlie or? Are you happy? Like, what do... I'm just like, I have kind of a man crush on Charlie. I just, I don't understand why the women didn't like him.

I think it was his overall vibe. Like, yes or no, is his walk not crazy? He has like, it's crazy. It's crazy. I think Charlie just... Is this a little, like, what is... The walk is... Yo, where is he going?

Like every time like you're just going to get some breakfast. I'm serious. That's so true. You know what? Now I'm thinking about it. I think so too. I think Candice did him dirty the last like little bit and I think America saw that at the worst time. Yeah.

Amaya. I feel like everyone's a little mad at Amaya. I actually blame Austin a little bit more because I felt like the, it was band of brothers. I think all the guys were like, hey, we're voting for Huda. Yes, I think he realized that immediately because didn't he say he was like, I fucked up? Yeah.

He sat down and said it like. Yeah. Because he threw his vote away. Like. Yeah. Okay. I feel like Amaya is getting a bad rap on this show I mean, she's stunning. I think she's got a good hand on her shoulders Go ahead on your take on a Maya Erica

I had one no actually I have many notes that I was writing down throughout that episode I think you got cut off. Go ahead on your take on Amaya. Erica. I had one note. Actually, I have many notes that I was writing down throughout that episode. And one of them was, why is she crying? I could not understand. When her and Charlie were talking, there was no reason to cry. What did I miss? Wait, don't you just, wasn't she just like uncomfortable because he was putting her in that situation?

All he was was like, hey, I just want to chat. My girl's making out with another dude. It's Love Island. Can we just have a chat? And apparently- He clearly was uncomfortable enough to save his ass for her girl though. I think that.

Also she was like, yo, like my morals, I'm such a good friend, but I have to get rid of your man. I'm like, that's... It makes no sense. No, the moral check-in is crazy to do right seconds before you kick her man off. In a normal conversation, you could add on account. I would do anything for my friend.

My morals are elite. Sorry, You gotta go But do you think she might not have known do you think there's any chance that she just wasn't aware of I know he had Like Charlie had his plea but like it just for me. No Hannah told her what? Hannah told her didn't Hannah have a whole conversation with Amaya where she was like, I'm gonna pick Charlie? And then Amaya sends him home. It was crazy.

Wait, I missed that. Wait, that's even more fucked. I think they definitely had a heart to heart where Amaya was like, yeah, I just couldn't do it and stuff like that. She was like, he came on to me basically. Yeah, but I think she. That was before though, yeah. Like stuff like that. She was like, he came on to me. Yeah. Yeah. But I think like she that was before though. Yeah. Yeah. That was before they had the second conversation, right?

That was before Hannah went to go talk to Charlie. But I think that's what made her realize that she wanted Charlie was because of like the way that he like started. It's unclear whether after Charlie and Hannah had their like, I think we love each other, Chad chat that like Hannah communicated that to anyone. And that's why Charlie gave his little speech was like, hey, yo, just before you got before you vote, we love each other. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, no, that is because I knew he was going to be gone. And I was like, the fact that he's like pleading for like, I felt really bad. Yeah, that's why Leah said it earlier. I kind of I mean, I feel like Hannah should have said something to his girl. I feel like they didn't give them. Yeah, I was actually shocked because I didn't realize that no one was able to like I thought usually they all like, you know what I mean? Like they all vote within the group for someone. So I wasn't I don't

think they had enough time like to. I think they wanted to throw them off. Also, I kind of was getting a feeling like Charlie was like going to sacrifice himself for us. That's what I I thought at first. I was like, yes. I swear, I was like, don't I was like, no. Now, for a second, that was crazy. That was like the response from that cast was like guys like no one's actually gonna die

like It's good. It is though. They're they always do that. It's like it's if somebody's funeral every time Yeah, I was like gone too soon even her it's been So I we feel like this this season's been pretty incredible, I think, so far. Right, like this episode was great. Also, just like the amount, the adding that US got to choose the recoupling

adds like questions from everyone. I know, I feel like- But they don't really know. I feel like it confirmed what everyone was thinking in the house about Huda and Jeremiah. No, Ace read the room. He's like, America's got my back. He's like, I'm coming for you, Huda. He laughed loud as hell. I would have fucking slapped the shit. I would have slapped the shit. Everyone, whenever, no, whenever Iris, when they were like, Iris

with Jeremiah, they all were kind of laughing besides other they were all like, holy fuck. This is crazy as Put up with her bloodshot eyes has never been more scary and then she like kind of Like sat by Nick like to be comforted and then he voted for her. That's what I call Like she moved over like like her hand on Nick as a friend because she also confides. Because she was like, I'm a mama. I'm a mummy. I do have to know. That's the whole dialogue.

I'm a masita. That was so uncomfortable. Yeah. I think people just, it's a weird way that she, I don't know, I'm not a mom. Maybe Natalie, you can speak to it, but it's like the way that she speaks about being a mom is I've just seen some discourse online about Do you feel connected to Amaya because you're both Dominican? Well, you know what, I knew immediately. Here's the thing about Dominicans is you know, immediately when someone is

Dominican, even Scott, we've been dating for 11 years now he has now I've learned I acquired the gift. It's like a superpower. He's like, definitely. Like, we'll pass by people in a supermarket. He'll be like, Dominican, right? I'm like, yeah.

I knew Amaya upon arrival was Dominican. But when she tried to Spanish, I was like, hang on. I didn't even call it. Because I was like, wait. I was like, my flow sounds a little bit better. I was going to ask you. You've been working on your on your accent. Haven't you? But yeah,

I thought that. Well, yeah, but I do feel connected to Maya. I just feel bad that I don't know whether or not she will find a connection in there. What did you think of Ace and her? You're lucky. Witch Up was actually wild. I was so shocked by the way he switched up. Because up until that point, I loved Ace. I thought he was really funny.

But he had a whole switch of personality. It was kind of scary. And now I just don't really fuck with his vibe. He's very evil. He's there for the game. He's game playing. I loved him this episode, but he's definitely he's he studied this shit. He absolutely the traitors. And I think he knows, like, that's why he keeps saying

they're playing a game so much like how to in Jeremiah because he's playing a game like he's like, I know one when I saw I would have done that. Like if I connected with someone day one, like I feel like he he he says what he thinks and feels. I love that. He's like, yeah, he's very dramatic. I'll say that much. So what's been your favorite challenge so far? Not really. I had to know about this. Why are the challenges so random? They could not be more random. Like, what the fuck are we doing?

Honestly. Are we on a wet log, like slipping? Like, what is... There's only one problem to chop. It's obvious. These producers must be having so much fun. Be like, all right, how do we just get as much ass on as many faces as possible?

It doesn't even make sense to me, like as the viewer. Yeah, I was, I was asking Ali mid challenge, I'm like, what is this, what's the rocking thing? The chopping the wood. How do you win this game? Yeah, I don't understand the challenges. They are just nasty. Paige Dissorbo though.

Doesn't matter because at the end, it causes drama with the making out, like how Hunter was in the bush, like staring. No, that was crazy. In the back bend staring. And then the first one also staring when Jeremiah was so afraid, he was like. The mic.

He's always watching. One thing about her, she's always like. She always got one eye on that man. I wonder what's gonna happen tomorrow night with like... Oh my God, I was praying for him. It looks like Ace and Jeremiah were getting into it from the previews. Cause I bet, well yeah, I bet he's gonna feel some type

of way of like his boys coming after his girl. I think it's fake though. I think Jeremiah secretly like wanna hoot to go and now now that she's there He's gonna like put up a front and like he's got he's got his got his woman's back yada yada yada yada But I don't think he was upset like at all and I also this I I think like the fact that they Jeremiah and and Huda now know that America voted for this is gonna fuck with their minds so much.

Honestly, like that's the only reason why I'm glad Huda's there because like the fallout is gonna be wild. Now they're gonna talk about it. The conversation between her and Nick, I think as well. Jeremiah and Nick. I know. But I told you I was a mummy. But do you think Iris will kiss Jeremiah?

Or do you think Iris will kiss Jeremiah? Or do you think she's too scared? I don't understand their vibe. I don't think, I don't know. I'm not seeing it at all. I think they are both very shocked that this happened. Hannah's gonna sleep on the floor between that bed. No, they're gonna go sleep in soul ties together.

You're gonna get your fucking ass out of that bed. Exactly. She's gonna be like, if you sleep in that bed, I swear to God. Iris is collateral for like what we were trying to do here. Honestly. I think though that she's gonna get, Huda is gonna get into it with the boys. And I think it's gonna be like, I don't know actually.

I don't know if she's gonna be like, Jeremiah, you talk to the boys. Like, why are they feeling like that towards me? I am kind of shocked that none of the other women like Czech could ever. They have. I've peeped that like Shelly does sometimes and even Olandria from the beginning.

She was like, isn't that like a little red flag like saying things in there? But I feel like it's so obvious that the whole villa feels that way towards them. Yeah, but now they have to, now it's the knowledge that America voted for this shit. And there was like, there was nothing about Jeremiah and Iris that said they should be together.

You know what I'm saying? They weren't like, we got to see Iris come in and be like, Jeremiah is hot. I'm going to go for him. But like, that's it. That was this like, that was like, that was all we needed. Yeah, we're like, oh sure, okay fine. America was so petty. Everyone online, they were like,

everyone knows what they have to do, right? Yeah, it was, everyone, they were people aboing each other online, be like, they didn't care about any other vote, it was just to make sure that Iris is matched with Jeremiah. That's all that matters. I wanna see Amaya and Jeremiah together.

I want the Mayas. Oh. No? I don't think so. I don't think their personalities would match at all. I just love Amaya so much. No, Amaya and Austin are needed. We always talk about this, me and Erica were like,

they hooked up on the pier doing yoga. Nobody talked about it. Nobody spoke about it. And Erica's like, why? I was like, I honestly think they forgot. I'm so glad you brought that up. Does one of them have really bad breath or something? What if there's just something you can't see as a viewer? You can't smell them, you don't know their body.

No, we've seen Austin wipe his face with his dirty underwear. We've seen it. It face with his dirty underwear. So we've seen it. Upon arrival. Yeah. Yeah, no, that was crazy. That was funny. That's like kind of an unspoken thing. And I just want to know what the fuck that was about. They never told anyone else, I feel like. I don't think so. I almost I almost thought I was going crazy because I was like that happened right did that not happen and then I'm so glad that you guys just confirmed it because I Convinced myself it didn't happen. Yeah Had a small conversation afterwards like two days later, but like Nobody knows how do y'all feel about

Nobody knows. How do y'all feel about after challenges, everyone remaining in their clothes and stuff? Oh my god, it's brutal. The S&M day, they're all just like in the leather still. Actually, why do they do that? I think it's to get more footage in the comments. But the cake one. What about the pie? No, with all that pie on their face?

The pie? Sorry, the pie is where like Shelly Shelley is sitting. Just wipe it off. Just her eyes are out. Just go to the bathroom. It's coated on her eyelashes. Genuinely need to know what the fuck that's all about. Like, maybe it's a time thing. Like they're like the girls take too long to get ready. Oh yeah could be. But there has to be like my skin could never sensitive as fuck. Sensitive as fuck. I actually need to write this off. It's burning. It's burning. It's burning me. Do you think Alandria and Taylor are donezo? I just don't see the chemistry with them. I am really excited about that kiss though with Nick. Because yeah, that's the first I heard about.

Yeah, everyone also on the TikTok have been like rooting for them low key like Nick and Alandria. And it's kind of like an unspoken thing. And then in today's challenge, they made out and he confirms like I think she's sexy as hell. So like maybe something will happen there. That would be the biggest thing. But Taylor is so funny. Like Taylor might be my favorite character.

I care like it's a movie. Like he's just his back arched. Well, he does like that. He is so goofy. He's so goofy. He definitely has scoliosis. Somebody's like that man needs to stop arching all over the villa.

100%. I can't. He is really fun to watch. He gives me like, he's on a middle school trip. And like, the full time with his friends and like, no, like supervision. You have all these like jacked guys. And he's a guy, Taylor, like he's this Gumby arm.

And they're just kind of. He's doing it for fun, like, out there working out. He's having a blast. He really is. these like jacked guys and he's a guy Taylor Lee's gumby arm and they're just kind of like forgets he has to like come away I'm supposed to like somebody okay that's kind of how I feel about Shelley I'm like Shelley seems to me like she's just on vacation I think Shelley knows that she's kind of like better than everyone yeah she's I think she just wants to say I really like Shelly too and I feel like it's coming from a genuine place. I just think she really is not clicking like really hard with neither Austin or Ace and she's kind of just keeping her options open. I just don't yeah I just don't think she dates men who go on Love Island.

Maybe not she doesn't deserve it honestly she amazing. Yeah, she seems to level it. It's like when you find a hot guy on TikTok and then you're like, wait, they like put their phone up, they recorded this. Yeah, they pressed the button. That's disgusting. I feel like her and Sierra should couple up. Yeah, I'm waiting for her to find one of the women

to take on. Yeah, Sierra and Nick really fizzled out too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ready for that. I'm ready for Charlene's. Yeah, for sure. I know for sure. He's like really fucking ready for that. Like locked in. That's hilarious.

That's what's crazy. How early we are like we just like this time last year when we just started watching, we didn't even start watching this time last year. OK, that's how early like this season is. Oh yeah. Feels like a long time. He's trying to say it's still early days. Yeah, yeah it's early days. Yeah I feel like we didn't have time last season because we watched them all really fast. And so we were like, we didn't have time to build, we were just like, on to the next.

And then it was like, oh, new relationship, new relationship. I'm just saying so much can happen. We're gonna forget that one of these couples ever existed, that they even dated. I know, I was thinking that too. You remember like, Janay and Connor last season? That's crazy. That's crazy.

Right? That's crazy. No, I don't remember. What about Leah and Connor? Yeah, you know what? That's all crazy. There's still so much to happen. Even Leah and Rob, right?

Like there was like a whole bunch of tension between them. Did not forget that one. Yeah. No, the producers wouldn't let you. I said, that was the time. All right, that went deep. All the boomers to the last. We're still crying about it. I apologize. Yeah, yeah.

Still triggered. Hold on. So we'll see. Has anything else crazy happened on the last couple episodes? About Jeremiah and Hedda. It's stupid. Wait, wait. One day, Taylor and Gabe, I think Taylor, it seemed like that from what they were doing,

was giving everyone haircuts. And then that was like the morning that Huda made the whole pancake ordeal. And that was when his hair wasn't twist. Pancake gate. I was like, I know Jeremiah. It's just like, I just got this fresh ass new cut that I'm trying out.

And you're just not, you're causing a fight. She's like the guy who just cut your hair also just made me breakfast. He's extremely talented. What have you done for me? Nothing. I actually like your other hairstyle, but if she added that, it would have been crazy. She's so funny. But honestly, what are your thoughts on Hannah? I think she fucked over Charlie.

Nick is so hardcore team, Charlie. I haven't thought too much about it. I mean, I think like, I think she's here to have fun. I think she's here to play the game. And then I think she like had to admit that she was up there. Not her taking him to the same place she took Charlie. Not her taking her to the speakeasy. That was her vibe. She's straddling Pepe and the next day she's like, well, he pulled me.

Like he got mad at Charlie. She was mad that Charlie was talking to someone else and then like meanwhile. Charlie said hi to a woman and she was mad at that but she was straddling Pepe. Straddling, oh yeah. Well the thing that was weird about Hannah is that she got really upset that Charlie pulled Iris,

but then she wasn't upset at all that he told Amaya that he wanted to pursue her. She was just like, oh, okay, cool, now I want Charlie. I feel like the way Amaya delivered it, you know? She was like, he's spiraling because his emotions are high and he doesn't know what to do. She wasn't like, your man wants me, like your man's trying to fuck.

It wasn't the way you delivered it., like your man's trying to bug me. Which makes her vote even more weird. Yep. Amaya, does it make sense to me? Weird all around. Weird vibes all around. Anyways, I think Hannah's really cute. I just think that she's there for like, you know.

Well, we'll see how her character develops now. She's a bombshell for a reason. Oh, no, they are characters. Well, they are characters, and they will develop in time. It's not a scripted character. But no, I know. I know. But she was sleeping next to a car, like their photo.

So like she's her. Oh, in the preview. In the preview. He's her. Oh, that's sad. When she was sleeping next to a picture of Trump. Have you ever done that when Erika goes out of town? In the preview, she's like, I don't sleep when I

because you know I've never slept with a picture. It's a really long way of saying no. No. I have. Erica, before we talk the new Traders cast, can we talk about your new show? Yes, guys. So I, thanks so much, guys. Natalie's.

Jesus. I'm so proud. Natalie's like a proud mom, literally. So I am a part of three new shows that Peacock launched. It's like a short series. It's called the Emerging Artist Series. They're like eight. Did you let them come in you?

Excuse me? Did you let them come in you? Wasn't that your line? Not me forgetting, I was like. It was just complete out of context, like crazy live. I will get there. I will get there. Anyways, there's three shows you guys should definitely check them out. The first one is called the council.

I play like the BFF. My name is Alana. That's where I say the infamous line. Thank you so much. I'll leave the second one is with Serena Kerrigan and it's called Older Hotter Wiser. Really fun. I'm playing her manager. Scott is actually in the council. Cameo. Wow.

For a second, he's in the dating scene. The council on Minute First. Power couple. Yes, with Katie Florence. And then Darren's show is People Like Me and it's so, it's such a good watch. It's about therapy. You guys should actually really watch it. You need it for sure, Natalie. That one will mean something. Natalie, that'll change you later.

Perfect. Natalie needs it. I'm so glad you had that tiny ass roll on it. I had a little baby scene in that one. Thank you so much. But yeah, you guys should check it out. It's on Peacock, it's streaming. All of them are on Peacock.

Did you watch it, Natalie? That's so exciting. No, how do you think I know your line? Oh, you guys should check it out. It's on Peacock. It's streaming. No, how do you think I know your line? Oh, you know what? I'm gonna send you a quiz later. Okay. Okay. And it'll be for sight every line that I said, where did I say this? Who did I say this? What minute? What was I wearing when I said this? So Traders just announced their new cast for the new season. Really glad Rob is gonna be there. What is he gonna add? Honestly.

He's gonna play, he's gonna go far. He'll just be super fucking quiet and then be like, you know, he doesn't talk, so you're not a traitor. And he's pretty to look at. And we've got Maura. Oh yeah, Maura from Love Island. That's fine.

Maura from Love Island. I mean, I just don't get the Colton cast. I mean, there's gotta be like so many better bachelor options like Tyler Cameron, Rachel Lindsay. So many. Jason and Travis Kelsey's mom. Yeah. Is that who Donna is?

Yes. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Wow. I that who Donna is? Yes. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Wow. I feel like Steven is a very random. Oh my God, I didn't even notice him. Who's he? Kristen Cavallari's ex.

Oh. Right? Yes. Well, it's a new thing. They're having brother of, mother of, ex of. True. Do you guys watch any Housewives? We do not. We don't.

You know what? I love them on the Traders. I do. It's a pretty solid Housewife cast. They brought Dorinda back who had an early exit last season. Yeah, I was gonna say, she looks familiar. Who's this Ian character? Big brother.

Oh. I mean, Portia's gonna be so much fun to watch. I hope she goes far. Yeah. Also Ron Funches, very funny comedian. He's gonna be fun. I know Eric. He's written some songs with Danny.

Oh really? Mm-hmm. He's a lot of fun. I had Denny's with him at three in the morning one time. Anyways, that's fun guys. Honestly, I feel like it's a little bit of a bust of a cast. I thought it might have been going a little crazier after the last season.

Right? I know. But honestly, to be honest, I don't really know that many cast members, like the past couple of seasons. I've definitely known maybe a little bit. The show is the star. You know what I'm saying? 100%.

It's a way different game. So I think it's still going to be really fun to watch. Yeah. Once we know who the traders are are, then they're gonna be our stars and it's gonna go from there. Exactly. I think it would be a great move to make Rob a traitor. Oh, that would be great. Do you think he'd be good at it or bad at it?

I think he'd be pretty good because he's kind of hard to read. Yeah, exactly. I think people think he's a very quiet guy and I think because he's really good looking, people read that as he's kind of stupid and kind of like there's nothing between the ears and I don't think he's really good looking, people read that as he's stupid and there's nothing between the ears, and I don't think he's stupid at all.

I think it'd be kind of a savage move to make him a traitor. Exciting. I just need another Rob Tantrum. Oh yeah, when he walked off and cried in the bushes. No, jumped in the pool. Oh. And went under the thing. Then he went into the bushes.

Yeah. Thank you. Right, yeah. Yeah, he's had the bushes. Yeah We need him as a trader could then do that think we'll see We'll see you soon. Let's see you guys soon. Thanks so much for having us. Thanks for coming on Go check out Erica show on peacock guys I will send you that pop quiz, Natalie. OK.

Love you guys. Bye. Bye. See you guys. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guests, Erica and Scott and Selly as well. Tomorrow, we have Tyler Cameron and his girlfriend, Tate Madden for a big time going deeper episode.

They talk about their relationship, how they met, really get into it. It's like their first big, you know, public conversation. We had a little double date, Nellie and I and Tate and Tyler and it was wonderful and I hope you all listen to it. I know you will but it's tomorrow and enjoy. Thursday we have Candace King. You know her from Vampire Diaries and she is on the new hit show. We Were Liars. You're gonna want to check that out and we have an amazing conversation with Candace. That is all on Thursday.

Don't miss it. See you then. Bye.