The Viall Files - E96 Fortune Feimster on Not Being Angry

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

Fortune Feimster joins Nick in the studio to talk about growing up gay in the South. She shares some hilarious stories about her love for Hooters, how her mom reacted to her coming out, and how she met her fiancé at a pride parade.  Don’t swallow poison and hope the other person dies! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS:  LENDING CLUB: lendingclub.com/viall ETTITUDE SHEETS: Text F-I-L-E-S to 64-000 ATHLETIC GREENS: athleticgreens.com/viall WANTABLE: wantable.com/viall See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Credit only applicable to federal filing fees with TurboTax full service. Offer can be modified or terminated at any time. You're crazy. What is going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of The Vow Files. I'm your host Nick, joined by my producer Rochelle. Hello. Hi. I'm very excited for this episode. Me too.

Fortune Feimster. I'm going to say this is my favorite interview you've done. Really? Yeah. I just thought it was really good. favorite interview you've done oh really yeah i just thought it was really good um for those of you who don't know who fortune feimster is you're going i mean she i'm really like i feel like we got fortune right before she was way too big to come on the show yeah that's where i think you're wrong i think she's already huge she's already a big deal yeah but i think she's gonna be even bigger stratosphere yeah i think she's gonna be

like one top 10 comedian in the world yeah i could see it she's so nice and normal and grounded and yeah she's been around for a while and yeah she's had a very successful career chelsea lately but i think she's she's she's so funny yeah um and she's just a great person. Yeah. You'll hear in the interview, just kind of talking about her life. And she is charismatic. And you just, she just has a great soul and a great perspective. You just love her.

I do. I truly love her. She's so great. And so I really appreciate her coming and doing this podcast with us. And has some great stories and shares a lot of wisdom, wisdom and perspective about life.

Obviously she talks about her, her standup special, which in her standup special, she talks about coming out as gay and what that was like. And that experience, especially growing up and in the South and, and people can be a little bit more conservative in that part of the country. Um, and then obviously that was personal to me as my young sister, Olivia, um, you know,

came out and we grew up in a very conservative family as well. And so I thought it was just kind of a beautiful story and with a lot of laughs and, and, and fun. So I do hope you guys enjoy this episode. Yeah. And if you like her, check out her sweet and salty special on Netflix. Yeah. Uh, what's new with you,chelle me oh nothing nothing no what why are you looking at me like that nothing is new so i have a couple friends trying to set me up and i've been resistant but

i'm like why because i've gotten set up in the past and then gotten to dinner and then be like, why would you think I would ever like this person? When you get set up, do they offer you pictures? No. They refuse. Yeah. They want it to be like. What the fuck?

Because have you watched that new show? Love is blind on Netflix? I know I haven't, but I heard people really like it. Yeah. I actually really liked it too uh sadly but yeah there's an idea that like it shouldn't be about looks you know whose idea is this i don't know what do you mean it shouldn't be about looks i don't understand that like give someone a chance looks are a part of it but i think they're like you have been unsuccessful so far so maybe try something different.

Well, that's fair for all of us in terms of we have a way of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. But this idea that you have to go and spend your time, of which neither of us lives are that important. Exactly.

We don't have a free Wednesday night, but whatever. And then you have to go and date with someone you might not even be remotely physically attracted to. And yes, I empathize with you because setups, just because someone, well, why aren't you dating them? Exactly. Why are they so great?

Why are you setting them up? And I'm sure they might be fine, but they're refusing to show you a picture. It seems a little sketch. Yeah. Sketch. Yeah. But I'm like,

it's, it's 2020, you know, I'm going to force myself to do it just to like, so you're going to go. Yeah. Without a picture. Yeah.

Report back. Wow. You know what? I will say, well, I do think it's bullshit. I am proud of you. Thank you. I think if nothing else, I am proud of you. Thank you.

I think if nothing else, it's good for you for trying something new and getting all your comforts out. Yeah. And at least my friends think that I'm dateable, which is also good. It's also really great for the show because it will probably go terrible. And then we get to hear about it. Thanks, Nick. No, who knows?

What do they say? Did they give you anything about this person no nothing no qualities and i'm 33 i got a big list of do not move forwards you know what i mean big list of yeah no i'm aware i don't know what's on your list i can only assume yeah it's like um you know nothing about him. Right. Not even like a personality? Two. I'm getting set up by two different friends.

And you know nothing other than we think you should go out. Yeah. Who's running this? Is this part of some sort of show? Is this an experiment? Why do I feel like, are you on a reality TV show? Did you sign an NDA? I wish.

I'm excited. When I ask what's new, and next time you say nothing, I'll remind myself to keep digging a little deeper. I'm not, I wouldn't do that. I definitely would not do what you're doing. You're in a different echelon.

I'm proud of you though. I say that is, I think that's cool that you're doing it. Thanks, dude. Anyways, should we get to 14 fortune i can't wait yeah uh again i i think you guys are really gonna enjoy this one i know i did we we want to thank fortune for coming on uh don't forget to check out her new netflix special uh don't forget to

send your questions at ask nick at cast media.com for our ask nick episodes certainly appreciate you guys listening to that and uh next wed, we have another exciting episode for you. Mr. Drew Scott of the Property Brothers and his lovely wife, Linda. They got some new projects coming up, but they were so gracious to come and spend some time with us and talk about their relationship and how they met and what it's like to work and be in love. Yeah. And spend all your time together. I really enjoyed that one as well. So, you know, check us out then.

We got some great stuff coming up for you guys. So, that is a, I think that's about it. We should probably just get to it now. They're probably like wrap it up, Nick. Anyways, Fortune Fe it up, Nick. Anyways, Fortune Feimster, everybody. Lending Club.

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I appreciate it. But I'm really excited for you. You're blowing up right now. I mean, I have a Netflix special out. You do? And people seem to be watching it. So I like that. You're doing all

these press tours i know that you really saved the best for last and you were listen i love you right after you did jimmy fallon and and kirk uh colbert colbert you're like no but i really want to do my podcast i have been following you uh in your love quest for a while. I'm glad you say love quest. Because at this point, actually, I was doing some press yesterday. And it's just like no one really cares about me other than if I found someone. It's all they want to know. It's all they want to know.

And so I just start fucking around in interviews. But one time, it's like I remember not to do that because it was like a People magazine interview. And they're like, so are you dating? And I'm like, I remember not to do that because I was, it was like a people magazine interview and they're like, so have you, are you dating? And I'm like, my quest for love continues. And they just, that was the headline. I'm like, you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. But yeah, they, I, it's funny cause you were like the bad guy and then you became the good

guy. And then they, uh, and then they were just like, well, we don't know if he's in it for love or not. Let's just make it for sure. But you seem happily single, in my opinion. You're having a good time. I'm doing okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm all right. It really depends on the day. I wouldn't mind a Valentine. I wouldn't. Okay. He's got a few. Yeah, I'm sure. Right.

This guy. This guy over here. I don't know Okay. He's got a few. Yeah, I'm sure. Right. This guy. This guy over here. I don't know. We will see. I just love that The Bachelor keeps putting 25-year-olds on the show. 25? That would be old. They're like, this 21-year-old is dying to find their future partner.

Her whole life she's been searching. I'm 22. She's like partner her whole life she's been searching like kind of 22 she's like i my whole life i've she's like i've been waiting for this person for a year 21 come on you still live at home i just want to yeah i want to see the whenever they have a 30 like two-year-old everyone treats them like they're the grandma of the house and you're like oh my god you know it's like when a like a 35 year old woman gets pregnant and she goes to the doctor doctor's like all right well you know we you're a geriatric pregnancy here yeah they treat women who are like over 26 the same way on the bachelor yes and the 32 year olds are always like

the ones that all the girls go to advice for they're like i know he doesn't like you so can you help me out you're just in for the free vacation you're basically the hired therapist yes you're friends with all the girls and the guys just like she's cute she has a nice personality it's like the badger will go up and be like hey I really need to tell you something so should I pick McKenna what do you think about Angela but yeah I love your new Netflix special

I like to think I'm not a cheap laugh I'm not and I was watching your special when I DM'd you and asked you to come on yeah lying in bed by myself oh that sounds sexy and i was crying laughing watching your special you were i really was oh my god i love that usually when i watch stand-up like i love watching stand-up and if i think something's funny and especially when i'm by myself i'm just like right right and that to me is a nice laugh yeah i was crying oh

that feels so good thank you it's really good you're it's i don't know it's a you're a great storyteller it's very relatable i appreciate it i worked hard on it i toured that version of that set for like two and a half years really yeah and then and then i wrote like three jokes like three weeks before the show so it was a combo of things you know but it was a very autobiographical and yeah and uh i was hoping people could relate to it from different all different backgrounds it really was i mean i loved just how obviously you tell your story about coming out and realizing you were gay. And there was so much about that. Obviously, it's relatable to the LGBTQ community. But even just anyone who's ever felt like

they had to find themselves or just any 20-year-old who's just like, I'm not sure what I want to do with my life. It was all just very relatable in terms of if you ever felt like you didn't fit in yeah you know and it was always it just came from a great lovable place it was it was it was funny and i thought both beautiful oh i love that that means so much thank you yeah i was i'm i just wanted to obviously make people laugh but i thought you know if i could get in a couple meaningful things here and there uh and trick people with heart yeah then uh maybe it will you know because it's it's kind of dark times right now yeah you turn on the internet

it's always negative and i just wanted a little a little happy moment for people and you really did that it was it was really great um you know i have a sister who was on my podcast with my parents who she's 18 now, who came out as gay. And I grew up in a very traditional Catholic family. You grew up in the South, obviously, very traditional community. Obviously, you tell a lot of stories about that. So it's not relatable for me, but it was really cool to hear your story about coming out and how your family accepted you. And I think of people like my sister who, fortunately now there seems to be more representation

like you talked about, but it must have been how harder it was back then for you. Yeah, I mean, it really makes a difference. I think nowadays people have no idea because there's so much more representation. You can, like I say, go on youtube and there's like a bunch of gay youtubers talking about their lives and talking with their partners and and you see that so it feels normal but you know growing up in a town of 10 000 people and not knowing anyone who was gay and not being able to turn the TV on and seeing that, you know,

you just, you don't really even understand what gay is. And somebody, somebody was like, uh, I don't know what she's talking about. Representation, uh,

wasn't there. Ellen came out and I'm like, you're naming one person. You're naming one person who didn't work for them. Yeah. When Ellen came out, she got shelved for four years i'm like so you're only proving my point that it you know it didn't exist and i'm not saying like oh let's go back in time and you can't change it that was what it was but

that is what uh molded me into you know trying all these other things i'm gonna try to be this person and this person because i think it's what my mom wants or what society wants but and then the humor comes in me failing at doing those things because that's obviously not who i am yeah did you really realize you were gay by watching a lifetime movie yes that's a true story all the whole special is all true there is creative license with certain parts sure uh but everything is based on uh truth but that was very true i mean it was bubbling up for me i was living in la at that point uh so come to jesus moment happened then it happened then I was I was all by myself and really did watch a Lifetime movie about a young girl coming out and said at the end of it out loud.

Oh my God, I'm gay. Thank you Lifetime. And I never told that story for years because I was too embarrassed. Oh, Sebastian. I thought what a lame coming out story like everybody else is like i made out with this hot chick at this party and i'm like i watched a lifetime movie so the com luckily the comic in me started mining it for uh that is for laughs that is so good you talk a lot about in your special obviously your upbringing where you came. We have a ton of people listening to this podcast who are from the South. A ton of people who are religious, both proud about their faith and still continue to be faithful. And a lot of people who, you know, Rochelle and I talk a lot about it. You know, we grew up very religious and we've kind of expanded our points of view.

And sometimes, you know, when you shame, like Catholic guilts, we joke about that, or just shame from religion. It's like the struggle we have as we grow up outside of how we were raised. And, you know, you talk a little bit about it on your special, but like, is that something that you tried to work with or you interact with people or your family still to this day and

yeah i mean i made a uh conscious choice to put religion in there because i think that people assume like well if you're you're either one or the other yeah you can't you can't believe in something or be religious and also be this other thing and uh and and i i grew up like you like it was a part of your everyday life going to church was like you know going to the grocery store it was so common and i didn't want to ignore that part of my past so i uh not only talk about church but i film in a theater that also serves as a church. And it was, you know, stained glass windows and stuff. And so I wanted to embrace that part of who I was, but also be like, you know, this was a part of my past and it's a part of the culture that still exists in my hometown. But also also like look at us they these people go to

church but they still like me and i can offer something to them and they can offer something to me and i didn't want to be the the person that's like well now that i'm gay i religion has no part in my world i'm like i believe in god and i you know i want to be a have good morals and try to do the right thing if you don't believe in god that's fine too i'm not here to tell you what to do but i'm going to tell you how it played a part in my life and i might not go to church now but i still want to be a good person totally and uh and i love that you said that too where it's just it's always funny how like we sometimes as religious people have a tendency of picking and choosing uh what we like will shame and to say like well if you're this you can't necessarily well you go

to church and yeah and you're like not not so much now but back in the day you go to church but it's like well you you lie and yeah church you what's it on your wife exactly well, you lie and you go to church. You cheated on your wife and you go to church. And I think that was my biggest problem with religion growing up was seeing some of the hypocrisy of it. They would be so anti this, but then cheat on their wife or do whatever. You're like, what sin is bigger? In the grand scheme, I think they're all kind of the same so why not we not judge people truth is we don't really know we'll find out you know i know what if we're totally wrong

you know and and god just really you know he has he has a really pet peeve with people who are late he's like oh i really hate i really hate that so much you're going to hell um but that's that's your big that's your big issue but also like i wanted to like i've never tried to be the type of comic that only appeals to one type of person i never wanted to be like just a gay comic or just a female comic or just this i wanted to uh i want people who are uh on the more conservative side to watch my special and hope that they get something positive out of it. If you are conservative, you should watch it. And if you are a guy, like that's it. And that's when I was watching, I felt that.

And like so much of your story is about being from the South, being gay. I'm not from the South. I'm not gay. But like it's still incredibly relatable and it just it just it's a story from a person who talks about their experiences and their struggle through life and with a comedic element to it yeah because i think of a conservative people uh who are i had i have had a lot of conservative people watch it and reach out to me and i think it's something that would be very helpful to them in sort of understanding things a little bit better because you know i am not hitting anyone

over the head with anything i don't talk about politics i'm very that's a conscious decision because it's real divided yeah but i do make jokes that uh are on the lighter side but in the bigger scheme i'm saying to you uh being gay is not a choice but i'm telling you that story in a way that's like so obvious right you know where but i don't have to say to you hey listen up you bastard it's not a choice i'm saying here's a funny story yeah i want to tell you, I came out watching a Lifetime movie. People used to say you can't let gay people watch gay content. It'll make them gay. And now it did. Look what happened.

They were right. And you kind of expose the ridiculous argument. Obviously, a Lifetime movie didn't make me gay uh but uh that's the fun part right through yeah no it's so good i mean i can't i can't sing your praises and you're special enough i thought it was really really great and like i said i'm not a cheap laugh and i'm in bed just by myself probably feeling fairly depressed i'm just like crying with laughter. I'm like, this is so good. I do like picturing you in your bed sliding into my DM.

I was. Shirt off. I was shirt off. Yes. Looking pretty good. I did some push-ups before. I'm just like, I am going to slide. That's my bachelor dream.

I don't even care if I just heard her talk about her fiance. Yeah, her fiance is over in the corner shaking her head right now. She knows I love me some bachelors, so that was a fun DM to get. Actually, we met for the first time when we both did Heather's podcast. Heather, yeah. You literally, I met you. Heather who? McDonald.

McDonald. Oh, nice. Just use the scoop. And Fortune walks in and immediately heather's running and jumping in my arm yeah because i don't know this person is but uh i'm about to go do this heather likes the uh the bachelor um the the quintessential run and jump into the bachelor's arms so good toddler so like nick's trying to leave and heather's jumping in his arms she's like we gotta do this one again he's like okay i know i was gonna offer to jump in your

arms but i thought we just met i'd save it we'll see how this one goes all of a sudden nick's leaving with his back hurting nonsense i i do have a bone to pick with you i know uh i don't like hooters food that's okay like is it is it nostalgia at this point or do you truly believe that they have quality food i only eat their wings so i can't... I mean, I don't think it's probably... Is it as good as other places? But when you're growing up, the cuisine in Belmont, North Carolina is pretty limited. We had restaurants where they're known for their potato salad. That's what the cuisine was like in my hometown.

So for me, Hooters was pretty tasty i mean nowadays i know enough there's uh probably better wings elsewhere but it is more than the nostalgia of it because i don't i don't even know like how is hooters doing we don't know are they do they i feel like not as well going there a lot i don't know i don't know because i wonder certainly not like in bigger cities i don't think it's as much of a job but i think maybe it's still at other places well because it was popular when um porn wasn't as accessible right you know you couldn't or like dirty pictures you couldn't go on the internet back then and type in hot chick titties and see and see them so if you wanted the boobies you had to go to hooters was like so scandalous like whoa they're wearing tight shorts and pantyhose

how old were you when you guys started going to Hooters? Back that I can remember, maybe like 10. I think, I'm sure it was before then, but I can remember from 10 on. But it wasn't, it was never a sexual thing for me. But for my brothers, it was, to them, it was a big deal. Like, whoa, we're going gonna eat at your brother's older yeah so they were like teenagers yeah they were teenagers so dream hooters was like so awesome and i'm just like shoving tater tots and wings in my face being like oh

at that my sexual awakening hadn't happened but my my love of food had always been there and then to consummate you coming out to your mom she decided to take you yeah well i tell her i tell her and this was also a true story i told her i was gay at my favorite Chinese restaurant over some crab rangoons. And then it culminated in her. I really didn't know what she was going to say because my mom's very chatty. And for the first time in my life, she was silent and looked upset. And, like, eyes were watered. And then she obviously didn't say in that moment, let's go to Hooters.

That was the comic in me that brought it full circle. Okay. But she told me that she loved and accepted me. And I thought, well, what better way than going to hooters i think we did end up going to hooters like a week later uh but we didn't leave the chinese restaurant to go she immediately responded like that yeah take some time she she let it sink in for a little bit while i kind of we stared at each other for a little while and for for her, she said, she didn't just say like right out the gate, like, cool, that's great.

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and uh and for a little bit there was a like are you sure but but then ultimately she accepted it and and now she is the president of my hometown p flag so she's very gay friendly and and she's like the the gay advocate back home like people call her email her when like there's a kid like there was a trans kid over christmas that got kicked out of their house and she helped find them housing like she's kind of the um the the liaison there in that area you're really proud yeah i mean i never would have imagined i never would have guessed that i could have never thought that would be her path but she just sort of uh she she found it and and like i joked in the special she's like this is my thing

she's taking over that's great yeah i mean i remember when my sister came out i think that you kind of you said my my reaction from my parents was just a very protective feeling of processing okay we need to make sure that you are loved and okay and what are other people going to say is that fear of that protective parent like like when your kid is six or eight you don't really know how people are going to treat your kids and i think there's that fear did you know like did you have an idea growing when your sister's growing up that she never thought about i mean she's much younger right so i've been out like i well when she was i was always out of the house when she was born right we never lived together

it was um so i didn't didn't see her on a day-to-day basis. When she came out, it was kind of like, yeah, okay. Yeah. But I, I never wondered,

you know what I'm saying? It wasn't like, oh, I wonder if she is, or I wonder, I think maybe I need to have a talk and just say, hey, no matter what,

I love you. Uh-huh. No. And she just, and I was like, oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah. I wasn't surprised, but I, I didn't expect it if that makes sense yeah yeah i feel like siblings are kind of more like yeah whatever it's some some of the old school parents are more like i don't know and you're how how was it in your community when when it for when you first came out well i didn't come out uh until i was living in la okay so i never experienced it like what it was like uh growing up in a small town in the south um being out i don't know that story because once i um uh once i came out i'd been in la a few years i was doing

stand-up and people were super accepting and uh and very much like we love you no matter what and then there's this fun like gay loophole uh once you get on tv where uh people in your hometown are just stoked you're on tv and they don't care that you're gay i know that person i was always supportive it's like an ellen loophole we love ellen she dances right you're like well you know oh so you're cool with her being gay no what she's gay they just don't think about it because they like her and they like that she what she does that it's sort of this interesting loophole that that you can get away with uh which i'll take yeah how do you i mean how do you i i don't i'm not I mean, obviously I have a sister who's gay.

I have friends who are gay. But I mean, to be honest, I'm not that in touch or connected with the gay community in terms of how progress is going. How do you feel as a whole, as a country, when you travel? Do you see the progress more and more? Or do you feel like we still have a decent way to go i mean definitely there has been lots of progress you know gay marriage was a huge one uh though

sometimes people get nervous that that could go away i think every gay person is like we have it for now like hopefully you know so that's a real fear. Yeah, I think so. I think people, we just assumed anything could get taken away at any point. Only because these are newer things that we were given and they happened under a progressive administration. So once, you know, things start leaning more conservative, you don't know. Like, can that be taken away? Yeah, I mean, you definitely see more representation in the media, which is nice. But I, as a stand-up, do travel all over the U.S. And there are places, for sure, we've experienced it recently, where we got kind of nervous.

And they were in places you wouldn't expect. And we were like, you wouldn't expect. And we were like, oh, I didn't really, like it almost reminded us, like we have gotten further, but there's still that thing there. And there were a couple, like after shows, there were a couple bars. We were like, we probably should leave. was like do like outwardly doing anything to us but you it's just a feeling you feel and then uh well one woman was kind of uh she was so we went to this one place and she was so nice to jacks and i was sitting down and because my uh fiance's

on the feminine side and this lady was so nice, so helpful. And then, um, uh, Jack sat down. I had to go to the bathroom and I walked through and I asked, I didn't even realize they had interacted. I asked that same lady a question and she was so rude to me and like, not nice. And I was like, Oh,

that was really weird. And I didn't say anything to, I didn't say anything to Jax about it. And we, we ate. And then as we were checking out, out, we were together paying our bill. And now she was not nice to Jax, who was now with me. And I go, oh.

And then we kind of compared notes leaving. I go, oh, she has a problem. You know, clearly realized we were gay. And so I go, oh, my God. Like, I can't believe that's still a thing so it's just those little reminders that you think okay we're getting better but we still got some ways to go yeah that must be a lot to process i mean i i can't imagine and it's to get excited and to have the progress and then be reminded i mean i guess it's a good sometimes we are reminded not to take things

for granted yeah like wow it's wow you just want to you know you just kind of remember to be diligent and not sort of just uh not that it's like i'm out there fighting you know every day it's just like i all i can do is be myself and represent who i am and and hope that that helps in some way uh make it less of a scary thing for people like oh well you know if she's living this life she seemed like a good person her partner seems like a good person like if they're good maybe this thing isn't so bad you know if that's if that's my contribution sure i'll take it how do you not like get angry about that like because you seem such like a even like with religion how do you not get about that i mean i think there's things we could all get angry about and any any of us uh and and

what good does that do uh for ourselves you know it's that old saying like yeah uh drinking poison and hoping the other person gets sick yeah uh i've never heard that that's so good it's that was with resentment i think is the that's so true yeah it's like what good does it does nothing for you and so you just have to live your life drinking poison hoping the other person i'm gonna steal that there you go it's an old saying, I think. That's basically resentment is that. And I just think you have to try to find positivity wherever you can because life is hard. And to let things bog you down.

Of course, I get frustrated at times. But in the grand scheme of life, have a life i get to do what i love people are um allowing me to to be a comedian and and have a good comfortable life doing that that blows my mind so for me to like get worked up that things aren't a hundred percent perfect you just you i don't know you'd wake up angry every day and uh and so i just try to uh be grateful for the things we do have and hope that uh you know it changes and gets keeps getting better for everybody anybody that's an other yeah i mean you're you're really doing great things that help help make that happen too so thank you you you talk a lot in your special i mean through jokes about growing up and how

again you didn't come out until later in life or even just process that you might be gay and so you were kind of trying all these things and kind of jokes about it and i read that and you i think you even said in the special you went to an all girl college yeah was that like do you look back and go okay i've realized maybe i was like why did i pick this school over yeah a non-all girl school or do you do you kind of think about that or and was that experience what's that like it's funny because uh you i think when you hear all girls school you just assume like everyone's gay in and out just like everyone's scissoring everywhere i but i as what i assume is parents are still like very like you need to like they're still not accepting that their kids might have sex that's what i assume oh really uh i guess my fantasy was different but i'm down for the cinder i went there because uh it i got a i got a scholar a big scholarship

there so what uh for academics uh and uh you're a smarty pants i'm a secret smart. I graduated summa cum laude. I don't want to brag. But yeah, I'm a secret smart person that talks like I'm dumb. That's a superpower. Yeah, right? And I went there for the scholarship. So it wasn't even, I didn't even go because it was all girls. That really played no part in it. It's good for the stand-up. It is. It is. But it was fairly, it was an girls that really played no part in it it is a stand-up it is it is but it was fairly

it was a awesome school and i loved it and i'm so glad i went there but it was um a little more on the conservative side it was a presbyterian college um and uh not a lot of like only one out person that i know of my entire four years of college and um really she was not it was not the place for her and she transferred after a year uh and you kind of i think i probably a part of me saw that and i don't know if i consciously realized it but i internalized some part of like oh that person came out this was a hard place for her and she left and uh pushed something a little even further down um so for me college was you know whereas college for a lot of people was a party time and like hooking up time i was such a nerd i was like hitting the books hitting the books i played

tennis and soccer uh i was in the student body president uh yeah so i was like nerd were you popular i was i but it was a small school it was almost like a three giant sororities put together that was like class like people went to class in their pajamas yeah it was a whole like places like that don't exist in the world anymore but i also but also it was they didn't let you get away with anything uh because jackson went to a big school in michigan and like her teachers never knew if she was there i had a teacher track me down once uh at lunch because i missed class and yeah and it was because they knew like these it's like high school yeah but these i've been lucky with teachers my whole life they always kind of saw something in me or like cared a little more so i had a lot of teachers throughout my life be like

you need to do this you gotta step this up you like they were always championing me by making me work harder and i really appreciated that yeah i had a lot of teachers pull me aside in my lifetime you're fucking it up yeah like now now that i think about it i've never really processed that before but yeah i had a lot of teachers have like heart to hearts with me they all saw potential i guess so but that's kind of crazy and and now i'm i'm engaged to a teacher she is a teacher well she's a kindergarten teacher which is perfect for me yeah you me you're happily engaged i am how'd you guys meet we met at chicago pride the gayest place of all i love chicago pride i've been to it once yeah when i lived in

chicago yeah i was i had friends there and my best friend from who i lived with for seven years in la was living there at the time so he went time to time would be like come stay with me and so i went to pride and we met like right away who made the first move who who saw her her friend wanted a picture uh because it uh yeah uh because the gays knew me from chelsea lately oh yeah and jacks didn't care who I was. But her friend was too shy to go up to me by herself. And so I took a picture with them. And I was like, this blondie over there is real cute.

But I assumed that they were together. And then they came back 15 minutes later and said their picture was bad. I go, sure it was. said their picture was bad i go sure it was and uh and so i i uh normally didn't have a lot of confidence with women but it gave me a a false sense of confidence that uh you just told yourself it wasn't a bad picture meanwhile it's totally this girl wants me yeah it turned out it was like the worst picture ever uh so it i we just like chatted and she'd been drinking a little bit and uh we kept running into each other all night and then you know that's all she wrote yeah and then you convinced her to move out here yeah we were long distance for a year a year a do you we get a lot of questions from

people calling about really since you uh it's hard it's hard it's very hard we were exhausted at the end of the year what were some of the things i mean because obviously like to your point eventually you gotta you gotta do you gotta end the long distance but a whole year a whole year what were your some of your best things you guys did to make that that year last we traveled we usually one of us traveled to the other one every couple weeks and uh we tried to make each other's place comfortable for the person we would have stuff in a closet so it didn't feel like you were always in a suitcase. And I guess it forced us to really like work on our relationship in a way that you might not your first year. Like you get to know each other more.

You talk about more serious things. Because at some point you have to, without really knowing what it's like to be together all the time, you have to make a decision. Are we going to break up or are we taking it to the next level and you have to make this really big decision and one person has to make a sacrifice the real big sacrifice uh to move and change a lot of their life and you have to know that that's what you want to do and it's scary for both people

especially the person moving uh when you don't have anything to base it on as far as day-to-day like you said no you can't there's no real knowledge of how yeah that's going to change it doesn't matter yeah uh how much times you guys traveled or facetimed living with each other on a day-to-day basis drastically changed the dynamic so yeah for sure and i think there's fear for both parties uh fear the fear for me was oh my god what if what if i'm ruining this person's life what if they make this that's sweet of you huge thing yeah because you're like uh because she loves chicago loves her job and i think god what if i'm really just screwing up her life by by doing this and um and and it wasn't as much like what if we like don't clean the house the same it was the bigger thing you know and her fear obviously was

even greater what if i'm leaving all this stuff and it doesn't work out yeah and uh so we drove her car and i think the whole time we were that whole trip we both internally were freaking out we we knew that we were freaking out once we had a big fight over a meatball sub oh no uh that's when you know that you're freaking out we're fighting over a meatball sub and um where'd you get the meatballs it was in oklahoma and uh it was almost the sub that almost broke us up uh but you don't realize that what the fight is really about is this much deeper scary fear it's never about the meatballs never about the meatballs but we got to my we got to la and and went to bed and that and then that next day woke up and it felt it felt peaceful and i i think that then we were like okay we we're gonna be good and then it's

been great it's been uh you've been out here four four years now and almost it'll be four years this summer she will have been out here and um we luckily like it worked out great we really blended in well together but she did ultimately have to make all these a lot more sacrifices and and so i'm very lucky that she did that. Thanks, boo-boo. I mean, hey, listen, it sounds like you are aware enough to know that. I think sometimes people in relationships, they make that big mistake of not appreciating the selflessness of their partners. And you seem to be very aware of that and appreciative of that. I try to be. She's definitely the one that has to do a lot and i uh i need to step up my my my game i mean i'm she's in the room and i'm looking at her

it's not as if we're saying that she's like rolling her eyes being like you're full of shit like you know she's pretty awesome i i hit the jackpot with her and uh and i you know i gosh sometimes i get i've always been so focused on this crazy career and i've known for so long that this is my passion and what i want to do and and i'm driven driven i'm very driven to the point where i i wasn't sure i'd ever get married or have a partner because i just didn't think you could have both. I really didn't. A career and a... Yeah, at least be like, you know, keep getting to the level of just, you know,

growing your comedy and your audience and still get to have a healthy relationship. audience and still get to have a healthy relationship and so you know the challenge for me is to uh keep trying to work on taking the blinders off a little bit and you know recognizing my partner's needs and uh not being so like this it's comedy comedy comedy do you do you like that uh jacks is kind of out of the entertainment business? I mean, it's nice that she's not an actress, you know, because I think it's a business that you're always being told no and there's so many rejections and you're always like hustling for the thing. And if we both were like in a constant state of,

oh, my God, this business, it would be hard. But she's the calm one. But she's been around it enough now that she understands it. And so she gives me a lot of advice, and she tours with me. And so she's become very savvy in the biz, which is helpful. grounds you so yeah but then you know she's not like going to an audition at you know yeah they aren't competing for the same roles oh yeah could you imagine i'll take you down woman and you are you're you're have a very successful acting career as well that that is only blossoming even more.

When I reached out, you were filming a movie. Yeah, that's pretty cool. What can people expect from you in that department? Yeah, I started after Chelsea lately. I did my own sitcom with Tina Fey. And that sort of opened up a lot of doors. It didn't get picked up, but it opened a lot of doors as far as acting. The Mindy Project then came.

I've been lucky to be doing a lot of steady acting work since. I just filmed a couple movies. One was with Jennifer Garner. It's called Yes Day. She was awesome. She was really, really cool. She's that type of person that has this huge platform and really uses it yeah you know and uh we'd be on set and she'd

be like yeah I gotta go for a second like where you're going she's like I got I'm facetiming a elementary school in West West Virginia i'm like i'm going to get a granola bar and uh so i was very impressed with how she uh you know is using what she has and uh yeah it's a family movie we did that will be on netflix it's based on a very popular like a not children i don't know if it's a children's book but family oriented book and then i filmed a movie in puerto rico uh it's called chick fight and it's kind of like a it it's not based on fight club but it is a fight club yes for women yes so that was pretty that's i'm already in that was crazy we were filming uh in abandoned warehouses in puerto rico where it was just because they wanted to look very gritty sure and it was it was gritty we all

came home with like black lung because we were no we were like they were pumping in smoke in every scene and uh i'm sure there was mold and asbestos uh everywhere and so we were all like and then fighting so uh but it was cool it's almost like any special training you have for that i mean they send us videos of people fighting but you're like that's it that's it we each got to do like uh molly knockerman stars in it and she did a lot most of the training uh the rest of us had to learn like one fight and i was like i can learn one fight it's all like uh sure just moves you know and it's all based off of like gritty fighting anyways like even in fight club it's not as if they're doing right any type of ninjutsu or something it's just kind of yeah and they had like

uh six stunt women uh who were doing the bulk of the fighting and they were like blow your mind they were like jumping off of things they had a taekwondo champion doing all these moves like their fights are you're like amazing and i hate that they won't get credit for it like you know some it's been some actress being like showing their face like that was me and uh and i'm sure there will be you know i i don't know if people will take credit for those fights or if they'll if they'll give it up to their stunt double but those stunt doubles were amazing there was yeah i don't yeah hopefully the movie is you never know how a movie will turn out hopefully it comes together because those fight scenes could be super cool to watch

yeah you never you never know yeah i know like hey wow i did my part yeah um what uh when's the the big wedding day are you guys planning a big wedding small wedding we keep we should figure that out everyone always asks us we think may that's our plan may everyone's like you know it's february already that's so soon yeah may yeah but we think we're just going to have like a party. I don't think it would be like a traditional wedding. I am not. I mean, I say this as a single person with no dating life, but I'm not the wedding industry. Not a fan.

You're not? Well, it's just such a waste of. Yeah. It's so expensive. Yeah. I mean, to me, I hope if I meet someone, they're down for something chill. You wouldn't film it?

No. Come on, Nick. ABC. I don't even have. The quest for love. I'm not even in a relationship. No, I would rather prefer something chill. Something chill.

Backyard, low-key, friends and family. Are you still hanging out with all the bachelor people i have friends yeah like it's like anything else it's you know being a part of that world it's like any job you've ever had right you know jack like i'm sure jack's you were friends with a couple teachers and the and they're a bunch of like i would love not to see you after work um and it's a lot like that so i have a tight group of friends and um and then you know you meet a lot of people and a lot of its acquaintances and you know sometimes i try to give advice to the newbies who are you know losing their minds on social media i love following all of the bachelor stuff

and y'all's interconnected worlds and everyone's selling hello fresh. It's real fun. Yeah, they're a friend of our podcast, yeah. I love HelloFresh. Do you have any favorite Bachelor people besides Nick? Besides Nick. Found it insincere? No, it was very sincere. I have followed your whole journey.

Dean, I obviously, y'all are buddies right Is he okay by the way Didn't he like Crash into a mountain He had a serious accident I saw him a few weeks ago He is fine

He thinks he will fully recover In terms of like not having a limp Oh man He's in Physical therapy right now. Dean's a, I love Dean. He's an interesting guy. He takes a little too many risks.

He's a risk taker. I think he just kind of, this is who he is. He kind of grew up doing that and it's in his nature. Well, he needs to be careful. That one guy from The Bachelor did die from hang gliding. He was another adventure guy. He was on my season. Oh, yeah.

Eric. Yeah, I like Caitlin, too. You guys made up, right? Yeah. She's on my podcast. That's right. We're best friends. Y'all talked about what happened.

What happened. What happened. She was finally allowed to talk to me. Right, right. Oh. Yeah, because she broke up. what happened what happened what happened she was finally allowed to talk to me right right yeah because they she broke up uh she's still going strong with the jason great guy yeah he seems cool super cool yeah and um uh who else do i like do do do do do do rachel she was fun great do you like grocery store jail? Yeah, I do like him. Rochelle has a big crush on Rochelle. Oh, do you?

Is he still with them? He's newly single. They broke up? Yeah. Rochelle's not sad. That's not that surprising. Really? I mean, they lasted longer than I thought they would. But on Bachelor in Paradise I was like, this ain't working out. Only because they seem to have very

different lives well on the show they actually seem more or less disinterested in each other only to like be like we should date i don't know everyone else is getting more followers i wonder if we know but i think they really had a they had a real relationship but he's not is he staying in chicago uh no he moved back uh i think that might have played a a role he moved back to chicago he did yeah i think chicago to your point different lives and it seemed like um they both had lives they weren't necessarily willing to give up exactly i mean that thing the thing is like once people get just finish the show, they're getting all this attention. And you think in your head, like, oh, I should move to L.A. Because now I'm part of this thing.

I'm famous. And then as time goes on, you go, oh, I don't know if I like L.A. And this isn't that great. And I could do the opportunities that come my way wherever I was. Well, that's the thing too. It's like, what am I doing here? Exactly. If you don't want to be in the business,

then it's not the best place. Yeah, you have to immerse yourself. And Kendall's from here. So she has family here. So that's a little different. But yeah, it is a challenge. I mean, I joke about it, but the truth is like

it's hard to know like that's a problem sometimes with that world it's hard to know your own sincerity right I've said this before even when I

in my first season where you go on there I'm highly competitive and I like to be self-aware but there was this moment of like I know I like her right

but I don't know how much is just solely based off her or i just want my ego wants to know that she likes me more than right i really couldn't i didn't i couldn't honestly know for sure because you were immersed in this atmosphere and now even when you're out of that atmosphere you you know the followers and the people love you guys and every time you post a picture that atmosphere you you know the followers and the people love you guys and every time you post a picture with your partner you get like three times as many likes is this like oh it's just you it's just like well if i break up with you what's no one's gonna like me they only like us it's kind of a really messed up thing yeah i think people are some yeah some people probably

feed into that more like it becomes a um more of a business than it is a relationship yeah i believe that all the people in relationships it's they're not faking it you know what i'm saying they they yeah because they still have to live with that person every day but i think there's a challenge especially in that first year to know what is why am i really what why what's why why am i feeling why am i feeling the way i'm feeling right um and this is right for me and you're in a bubble while you're on the show and so i can't imagine the pressure of like uh they're like okay well you know at the end of the show you gotta propose and i'm sure that you're just like oh my god like i what do i do like millions of people are watching and expecting me to propose i mean it's a crazy social experiment i'll always have this vivid memory i'm sure i've said this

right before andy showed up at my door to break up with me. Yeah. I thought she was going to pick me. I was like, I'm pretty sure she's going to pick me. And like, but no, I remember I was in Dominican Republic and I was in the, in the, I was peeing.

Yeah. And there was this little, like, like this little window. Thank you for that. Just trying to give you a really, I want you to be in the room with me. Where was Nick when this happened? And there's this like little window, like as if you to be in the room with me where was nick when this

and there's this like little window like as if you were like in a jail like looking out and i just remember just like zoning out and just thought to myself would it just be easier if she picks joss because i was just like how am i gonna tell my friends i did this like how like how am i gonna go back and be like i'm love. Like I'm engaged and not have to like, how do I explain? I'm not insane. You've been gone for three weeks. What do you mean?

And I do remember when she showed up at my door, right? Like she showed up and I instantly knew. And I, for about a millisecond, I felt relief followed by total heartbreak and shame. But I remember being like, I felt relief followed by total heartbreak and shame. But I remember being like,

I don't have to try to explain why I'm crazy. I do remember like, it's a vivid memory of kind of this out of body experience. Do you have any regrets from? No, I mean, every day, but also, like I'm pot committed to this life I've built for myself. myself there's no going back no i mean all serious it's like um it's it's giving me a lot of opportunities and incredible access and it's allowed me to do a lot of things i'm doing and without the platform the bachelor gave me i probably wouldn't be doing this and it gave me uh the courage to take risks you know i

was selling software and i had a great job, but I never felt like that's what I should have been doing. And quite honestly, I've been able to tap into a lot of the creative aspects that I had when I was younger that I kind of stopped doing because I thought I should just work. And it's been a lot of fun and I've worked hard to do this and it's had its ups and downs. But yeah, but I don't fun, and I've worked hard to do this, and it's had its ups and downs. Yeah.

Yeah. But I don't necessarily, like I always say this, I don't wear it with a badge of honor. I'm not proud I did it, but I'm not ashamed. Yeah, you shouldn't be. Yeah. Why hasn't Ben Higgins gotten engaged? Why hasn't he found love? He's in love. No, he is?

He's in love? I thought he would have been married a long time ago. I think he's found his person. It's around the corner, if you will. She's nice and normal. She's like the female version of Ben. She's delight. He's got the politician's blood.

She's got the politician's wife blood. There you go. She's a sweetheart. I thought he'd be married a long time ago. He kind of liked these riskier women, I thought. Like Lauren. Like on the show? Yeah.

That doesn't count. You don't really know. Look at that picture of you and Andy. You guys were cute together. You were. I'm just saying. That was a great day. I had a great day.

I grew up. I woke up that morning with food poisoning. Throwing up all morning. I can see it in your face. Do you guys still, are you guys still friendly? Yeah, we're friendly. We talk. I mean, Andy's Andy and she's always like, I never really know with her, but we are very

cool. And for whatever reason, we might text each other for something. It was our five-year anniversary of me calling her out on tv not too long ago and she uh sent me a photo of it and she made a good laugh and that brought a smile to my face and she had a happy anniversary you definitely don't hold back on uh your interviews which i appreciate i'm gonna take that as a compliment everybody's very like proper yeah trying to say the right thing and you're just like no this happened and uh what the fuck yeah I don't know how to process

this I don't is this um do you uh obviously don't think it would have worked out with Andy or Caitlin like it all happened for a reason yeah I mean, it worked out the way it should have. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have any regrets. And there's not a person that I've dated, while I've dated great women throughout my life, there's no real like someone got away. Right.

And if someone got away, I never really got a chance to date them. Gotcha. But yeah, I'm content with my past relationships having not worked out i just needed my sounded cryptic i just needed if someone got away who are you talking like you didn't date long enough is that what you mean i mean there's people in my life that there was like a connection um and for whatever reason we never dated yeah but i always you know what i'm saying i always it's like i could allow myself to think um they were the one that got away. But sometimes we glorify things that we've never really got to experience.

The truth is I don't really know. And there's probably a reason why we never dated. But when we were talking or hanging out or felt the connection and maybe they were dating someone or I was dating someone or we're timing, it's easy to glorify like, why can't we just be together or something like that. Do you have some of these other Bachelor chicks sliding into your DMs? Not like the ones that were the Bachelorette, but like part of the... I have actively decided that I really don't want to tap into that. I'm friends with a lot of the women.

I'm happy to help. I have not had any physical interaction with any girl from Baton Rouge since Vanessa and I broke up. Oh, okay. And that's been a conscious choice of mine. Oh my God, how did I forget about Vanessa? You're Montreal lady.

Yeah. R.I.P. It's fine. It's because you didn't speak French. Forgot to. You did not. I'm just kidding. I'm still a little bitter.

Yeah. That was an interesting match. It was. You two. I was like, I don't know about this. You didn't believe in it? I didn't believe in it. But, you know, you guys had something at some point.

I was very into her. Yeah. And I was very drawn to her and uh she well she was different from everybody else and she she was i have a i have a bad picker and nothing against vanessa or the women i've dated but i you know i think i have a type that's not necessarily great for me right right and we probably fell into that kind of bucket so right well you know i like to be like like everybody in America where we judge your relationship and decide what's best for you without us actually knowing.

Yeah. You know, I don't think my person showed up on that. That's a nice picture of us. Yeah. You guys were a beautiful couple as well. Happier times. But, you know. Not happy? guys were a beautiful couple as well happier times uh no but you know it wasn't not happy you are you you knew that early on like this isn't gonna work there were some uh early signs

yeah uh shortly after that i i had some concerns yeah uh about our compatibility right but i mean every every bachelor it's a it's a tough time mean, every bachelor, it's a tough time. That's a tough, yeah. It's a tough time. It's not a best way to start a relationship. Right. Yeah. A lot of added tension that most couples don't have to do.

Well, and you're being talked about everywhere. You're in magazines. Everyone's dissecting everything. It's tough. That's why Jackson and I are keeping it low key. There you go. It's tough. That's why Jackson and I are keeping it low key. There you go. America's hottest couple. Guys, guys,

no more questions. We're just trying to be normal. I love that. Before I let you go, you want to get up for playing a little game with us? Let's do it.

It's called Do You Know Me? Real simple. Okay. Rochelle and I are going to guess who knows you better. The random questions that Rochelle picked out. All right. Through a game called Do You Know Me?

Don't answer the question out loud. Allow us to guess. Sure. If there's an anecdotal story you want to share to help answer the question, please feel free. All right. Question number one. Does Fortune have a turtleneck sweater? I feel like I've seen a picture of her in a turtleneck.

Now, does she own it? I don't know. I'm going to say yes. I think she owns it ironically. I do have a turtleneck, but it is for costume purposes. I don't. Did you dress up as The Rock one year? Did I make that up?

No, I didn't dress up. I didn't have a Halloween costume once. And I have a big chest of costumes from my days at the Groundlings. And so I pulled out all these costumes. And one was a turtleneck. And it was a bunch of Christmas. It was a Christmas turtleneck. So I dressed as a woman who's ready for it to be Christmas.

Aw. That was my Halloween costume. Nice. That's clearly a lazy costume, but it works. Question number two. Did the last text fortune scent contain an emoji? No, I think she's, I think she's a, she's very sweet and she makes people feel at ease and she cares about how people feel.

So I think she sends a lot of emojis so people can feel okay. You're probably the last person she texted. That's why you know. Well, we DMed. We DMed. I don't. My last. Do I look at my actual last text?

Yeah, no. Oh. No emojis. I use them more on social media because it's too hard to write back to everybody. So occasionally I'll just be like heart or smiley face. I don't use them as much in everyday text. All right. I'm so bad at this.

I usually win. Yeah. Has Fortune ever hooked up with someone 10 years older than her oh i'm gonna think if she was 10 years older oh there's a hint oh wait i didn't let y'all answer it's okay i'm gonna say yes during her chelsea lately days was... Why do you go to that specific time period? Because that's when she was like, you know, fresh out of the gate and people were like,

I'm getting her. It seemed like Chelsea's a bad influence. She is! Just like bringing all these older... Yeah, come on, cougars! Yeah, sure. I really... There was one person that was older, but I don't know how i cannot for the life of

me remember how much older it could have been eight eight to ten it might have been yeah so let's just say yeah was it during your kelsey lately days uh it was right right before it started okay you're feeling yourself has fortune ever gotten a spray tan i'm gonna say yes she what did go to she's from the south she went to debutante school they didn't do i i don't know what goes on in debutante school so i'm taking a leap here but i feel like so many spray like outward appearances and like you know i don, but I feel like... So many spray tans. Like outward appearances and like, you know, I don't know. I feel like it's... Or either that

or somewhere in her acting career in her costume necessitated a darker complexion. I think, no, I think she draws the line at spray tan. She's like, I will not. I will not.

I have never had a spray tan. Yes! Never ever. Have you been offered one? No. Weirdly enough, people look at me and go, I think she's fine. It's plays. They're like, me and my t-shirts.

Does she look like someone who wants to step it up? No. I went to a tanning bed. Oh, you did? Like three times. That's it. When? When you were younger? Back in college. Yeah. Oh, you did? Like three times. That's it. When? When you were younger?

Back in college. Yeah, I did too when I was in college. I was like, I gotta see what this is about. I'm like, this is weird. Yeah, it was weird. I've been to a tanning bed. I can imagine. That checks out.

I grew up in Wisconsin. I had, you know, going to Mexico. It wasn't for vanity. All right. I had, you know, going to Mexico. It wasn't for vanity. All right. I mean, sure. Has Fortune ever been to a nude beach? Not necessarily nude, but have you been? Yeah, sure.

She travels. You know, she's been, she lived in Spain for a year. Can we step it up to see if she's been nude at a nude beach? Sure. I mean, I expect that if she has, she'll tell us. I don't think. I think maybe that would make her feel a little uncomfortable. She stepped foot on a beach where someone was nude is all I'm saying.

Okay. What's the answer? I have been to a nude beach in Greece. Oh, hell yeah. So many old dongs. Lots of old dongs. It's not attractive is no it's never what never great uh i personally was not nude okay this is not a nude body this is a lights off no one look at me that's not true but yeah uh you uh i think that was my only new beach it was in in Greece. And yeah, I just remembered so many old saggy dongs. Yeah.

Because you know those Greek guys, they don't care. They're just like... They're wrinkly, man. They're just eating, I don't know. Olives. Olives. They're eating olives. Eating olives, showing you their olives.

Yes. Yeah. Final question. Has Fortune ever missed a flight? Yeah, she travels a lot. She's on the road. It's happened. I think the only way she's reached it to the top

is by being impeccable with her time. And so she's never missed a flight. I have only missed one flight. But I did miss a flight.'m very because i'm a rule follower yeah i may i drag her to the airport like an hour and a half too early constantly and she's like oh my god like i guess we can sit down for an entire meal um you're those people yeah i missed a flight once traffic in la sucked and uh i got just uh i got stuck uh yeah not getting my luggage checked in on time yeah that's hard i would have made it otherwise the only flight i've ever missed was it was like a 6 a.m flight my alarm didn't go off and i woke up

at five maybe like 4 50 or like five o'clock yeah and i was like fucking i'm still gonna try oh it's early in the morning so there's no traffic but damn it that was like one of the few times i planned on checking a bag it was a longer trip and i and i fucking made it in time but they're like you have to check in 45 maybe yeah and i got through uh security before the flight gate closed. So I was like extra pissed because technically I made it. But they were like, nope, we have to bump you. Yeah, it was the bag.

I was going to Austin for a show. And if I, oh, I remember I tried to get it. I parked my car where you leave it and then you take a shuttle. Yeah. And I thought, man, because, you know, the shuttle stops at everything. Oh, it takes so long. So I tried to get a cab. There was one cab. can you take me he goes no he's like this i'm like isn't that come on job he's like just take the shuttle and the but because i took the shuttle i missed

you know bastard what are you gonna do well fortune i really appreciate you taking the time and coming oh my pleasure if you're listening, check out Fortune's special on Netflix, Sweet and Salty. It's an absolute great special. You won't regret it. Thank you. Oh, and I'm going on a new national tour. I'm going all over the country. Find out, follow Fortune.

Where can people find you on social so they can track you down? At Fortune Feimster or my website's fortunefeimster but I'm pretty much going all the big cities in the US and it'll be a new show that's awesome well you are an absolute delight of a human being

you're the best I really appreciate you coming it's been a lot of fun well I've loved talking to you Nick yeah thanks so much slide into my DMs anytime I will thanks for listening

guys don't forget to send your questions at nick at castmedia.com cast with a k feel free to you know give fortune five stars on our podcast give them mostly because i want them give them to them that's right there you go all right we will see you back on monday