The Viall Files - E981 - Bach in Paradise w/ Andrew, RHOC w/ the Sklar Brothers, RHOM, Dorit’s Hermes Bags & Claire’s Closing

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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What's going on, everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wife, Natalie, and boy, do we have a great episode. Great week lined up for you. So it's so great. The coming in hot this episode. episode. We got Jason and Randy Sclar, the Sclar brothers, you probably, you've seen them around. They've been everywhere. They're, they were in entourage. They were in like better call

Saul. They've, they're everywhere. You've, you've seen them, you know them, you love them. Turns out they're also big, a real housewives of O.C. fans. And they're coming in to break some Bravo housewives down with us. Get ready to laugh. A couple of funny guys. A couple of funny guys. We're excited to have them. Honestly, they're iconic and it's always fun. I always like the ironic Bravo fans, the ones you least expect. It's always fun. Following that, Andrew Spencer, Bachelor Nation star. Star. He is here joining us.

He texts me yesterday. He has some shit to talk to talk shit. I love when people talk shit. Apparently, he didn't like the episode. He has a lot to get off his chest. We'll see if he delivers. I'm not a good look for him or anyone else. Honestly, that was the craziest response I've ever seen.

That was a weird response for everyone. Do we think it was the edit? Everyone was so worried about people like talking shit about like themselves. they were like, hey, just don't. And alien, her feelings. It was like, mind your fucking business. Mind your fucking business because if you're a narc, you're out.

And the way that Alex is able to convince herself that what she did was like the right thing to do, not telling her friend. We'll get into it. We will get into it. We also, just so you know, have a jam-packed week. Tomorrow, it's not necessarily going deeper. It's another reality recap.

We have a jam-packed lineup. Lisa Hoxton from Real Housewives of Miami joins us for a nice little sit-up. It's a media interview talking about everything that's going on with Real Housewives of Miami. Most importantly, her very public and a little messy divorce, we will get into the weeds with her about that. Lots to talk about with Lisa. Also, we have Freddie, fan favorite Freddie from Perfect Match. Who he just posted a little picture on his Instagram and everyone could tell that there was a shadow of a woman taking said photo.

So I'll have to ask him who he's hanging out with. Maybe. I don't know if we're allowed. We'll see. he doesn't have to answer but yeah he is posting shit I don't know Brian will also join us this week to find out what his favorite color is

finally we'll get answers the internet has been dying to find out Real Housewives of Beverly Hills seems to be I'm excited already for this filming We've seen Denise Richards out there filming Obviously very sad about her divorce Very messy life But when it comes to real housewives

We just want to thank Bravo for at least giving her an opportunity to film and she seems to be taking advantage of that opportunity. When I hear this conversation, when I hear this divorce run back, I want to hear it with Sutton and Erica sitting there.

Like I want their commentary as well. I need it. There have been pictures of Doreet floating around on the internet shopping. Now this picture is creating a lot of buzz because you see Doreet with two, is it Hermes? Hermes.

Hermes. Hermes. She seems to be shopping in Beverly Hills. She seems to also be surrounded by production. So she's doing a scene or maybe like an intro package of some kind. A lot of speculation on the internet about the bags itself. They seem there are some crinkles.

Wrinkles. Crinkle wrinkles in the bag. And people are speculating that these are. The Aramez bags are a little bent up. They're little reused. God forbid a woman is environmentally conscious. Literally. It's like you go to the grocery store and the cashier of the baggers like

scold you when they're like, do you have your own bags? You're like, no, I don't. They're like, really? Dorek comes in to Hermes. And she's like, don't worry. I have my own. I have my own. She's a repeat customer.

If anything, she's more of it. This is a great rebrand. Yeah, actually. Great revan. She helps the economy. She recycles. She does. Greta Thunberg.

It's one of the toughest, one of the toughest jobs out there is to be an environmentally conscious housewife. That is. To pretend to be rich. It's so hard. Do you think she is to pretend? Yeah. Does she still have the house?

Think about it. Let's do some basic math here. Like, right, like, all right. So let's assume, well, PK is not even in the picture. They're getting divorced. Let's, I don't even, I doubt she is. But let's say Dorit's making a million dollars a year from being a housewife. Let's, let's assume, all right?

Off the bat, cut that at half, half a million dollars. Take 10% from that. You're at $400,000. Well, maybe you could take the $10,000 of, you know, when I'm going to be involved. She's standing with like $400,000,000. Divide that by 12. She's looking at $37,500 per month in disposable income. How much of the Hermes scar for bag?

Hermes. Starting at like $10,000 to $20,000 for like a... Then she's doing glam. Every time she's doing glam, that's what? She's dropping $3,000 or $4,000. That shit goes fast, people. I mean, if you make a million dollars a year, you're only rich if you still drive a Toyota.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't up your spending. I think she has like a G-Wagon, doesn't she? And a mansion? Yes, exactly. smoking her sags in that G-Wagon down Laurel Canyon. Her mortgage 20K. And those cigarettes aren't cheap anymore with all the taxes.

Cigards are not cheap. Yeah. P.K's got to be responsible for something, though, right? It's, it's... He provides just the cigarette money. Yeah. It's the least he can do. Do we think they're fake bags?

Do we care? Listen, if she's filming just like an intro bit, then they're like, hey, like, we just need you, like, with some bags. Then she's like, okay, sure, I've got a couple. But we know she's going to do a divorce. a scene and it's like let's go into Hermes and then act like we bought a bunch of stuff and like come out walking with all of our bags I think it's awesome. Don't all celebrities do this

anyways like the Kardashians do giveaways all the time and it's just empty bags like people know that. I don't know it makes me get about the Kardashians are rich rich. Yeah but still those bags are not like we know the bags are just staged you know it makes me think of that have you guys seen the

girly pop Ocean's 8 movie no well it's the perfect thing to watch on a plane because it's not good but it's also amazing no but it's like when I say movie's not good it's one of the best movies ever oh okay clarification thank you it's not winning any Oscars but like I will

turn it on anytime I feel and I will it's a phone down movie it's a phone down movie to see Sandra Bullock come in with those bags and do that scheme to this day I'm convinced I could do it I mean she does have every brand under the sun on in this photo though what brand we've got Celine sunglasses

we've got Chanel jewelry We've got Hermaz bags We've got So what is she potentially holding? How much? I don't know I've said I don't think Doree gets dressed for less than 10,000 a day

Like But that's what I'm saying? No, she doesn't have that kind of money. She didn't know. I mean closed last And P.K. still Managing boy George. He's still wearing velour track suit.

So he's diving. He is saving for her to spend. Do you know how often people listen to the song Karma Chameleon? That's got to be at least like $10 a month. Oh, he's definitely getting really good ads. Yeah, he's getting some good ads. You know, commercials, like Wagovi commercials, I bet Karma Chameleon's in there.

It's so true. He's getting some ad sense. Rivers new favorite word, or my favorite word that River says, because one of the first words she learned was no. But it was, nah. Nah. Yeah, she goes, nah. That's cute.

Nah. Nah. It was like, oh, okay, do you want to do this? Nah. Now it's, no. And it's the cutest, it's the best. No, no. She does.

And yesterday out of nowhere, she just went, no, da-da. Like, stuck her finger out. I was like, no, da-da. And I was like, oh, my God, say it over and over and over again. That's awesome. Don't stop. It's really the best. I mean, River's childhood isn't going to be as great as everyone else is because Claire's has filed for bankruptcy.

And she's not going to get the mall experience that we all got. Claire, not a person, the jewelry company. Yeah, we all know. Yeah. I will say. time I did hear this weird out loud, though, I did think it was Claire from like The Bachelor at first. I was like, declared bankruptcy. What was she doing? Why are you shitting on Claire? Why you don't think she's like good with her finances? That was just the first Claire that popped

into my head because I was watching Bachelor in Paradise, you know? It's devastating. No, it's, there's an apostrophe S on it. Oh, Clares. Yes. No, but this is like heartbreaking. Like, I'm going to have to take River to a tattoo parlor to get her ears pierced. That's kind of palm. That's, that's, that's, ooh. You would. No, she doesn't get the experience of the $50 cleansing bottle that they force you to buy and then sit in that chair and like everyone in the who's shopping is like watching you get your ears pierced.

It's honestly like part of childhood. It's also like one of the first times where you see like a cool teenage girl like working. Yes. You're like, oh, she's like getting money by piercing my ears. Yeah. She's the coolest girl you've ever seen. What was your dream job when you were, like, in middle school?

Middle school? You know, well, yeah, because, like, to that point, when you were in middle school, like, that was a type of job, you're like, I want to work there. Thanks to a Mary Kate Nashley movie, Holiday in the Sun, I wanted to move to the Bahamas and trained dolphins. Do you ever see Empire Records? Have you seen it? Yes, of course. I've seen Empire Records. It's one of the great movies about the core and love of rock and roll and friendship.

Like, I wanted to work at a record store. I wanted to be. Wouldn't that be, like, the most amazing job? Yes. I, my dream job still to this day is to be, like, a radio DJ and a small town that, like, has a secret. There's still hope. That's a secret. Yeah.

Like, it's a small town. Yeah. And I'm like, like, the distrakey. Like, there's some mystery. Like, a bad, like a bad minister priest situation. Like, he was in jail or, like, there's a monster. Maybe a monster. I see myself, honestly, like, truly fully thriving in the Scooby-Doo universe.

Like, in the way. I see that too. Right? Yeah, zoinks in the way that, like, I'm a DJ. Freddie said that on perfect match. Fred's a man named Freddie said zoinks? They were talking about Scooby-Doo. Guys.

Scooby-Doo is the best. Anyway, that's my dream job. I wanted to be on roller skates. You wanted to be on roller skates? That's it? Like one of those people who work in, like, those diners on roller skates. Oh, hell yeah. That looks like fun too.

My sister worked at Sonic when I was, you know, in my primal years, and she had to roller skate around. around the outdoor thing. They don't do it anymore. They don't do it anymore. They don't get it's a lot of it is. Yeah. Nobody wants to work anymore.

When Paris and Nicole did it on Simple Life. It's like, do you want it in your car or outside your car? Yeah. It's like I can't do two things at once. I can't pat my head and stop. You want me to roll and stop? The scarletters here. They are here.

All right. Well, let's just get into O.C. Then we'll, after they leave, we'll get into a little Miami seating chart. Bring on Andrew. We're already kicking things off. This episode is up and running. Let's bring on the Sclar brothers. Randy, Jason, welcome to the Vile Files.

What's up? It's so good to be with you. Natalie, great to see you. How are you guys? We're great. How are you guys? Fantastic. Good.

I mean, a little rattled after the last episode of... When they take the show down, when the Orange County Gals go down to New Orleans, it does affect you. They take it to a real city. Yeah. then the big easy wasn't so easy was it how are they going to get everybody down in first class and i don't know we got to take shifts got to go shifts who knows how to have them don't

open their suitcases the point is we're happy to be here to talk about yes to dig into it before we get into oc sure well we're brig fans you guys have been around for a while been around been doing stand-up and been doing tv shows tv shows entourage better call saul you guys your credits are those are some of my favorites i love to see you guys you guys your credits are those are some of my favorites I love seeing you guys in, so I don't know any of those shows. All right, so I'm going to speak to you directly. I know, I'm joking. Gray's Anatomy.

Oh, yeah. Randy and I were the conjoined twins who were in love with the same woman and then got separated. Oh, that's beautiful to see you two separated. Did you go method for that? Did you guys like live in the same pants for a day? Okay. I love that you said that. So they made a prosthetic for us to get into and like there's a whole.

There's like a separate leg and then there's a shared leg. Look at the distance. I hate touching him. I will not touch him. I do not want to touch him. So they made it and the director who had just directed a great episode of The Wire, I'm sure you remember watching. Young, cool director, this guy, like, he's not six, six dreads, thin black dude who had, like,

just the coolest looking guy ever. And he was a great director because he would come in and whisper like a little bit of direction in my ear so he couldn't hear it. And then I would play something in the scene. He'd do the same to Randy. And he was great. And he's like, look, I just want to make sure you guys understand how uncomfortable this situation is.

It's like, I want to see that on your face. We're like, I don't want to be touching him right now. So, like, that's an easy thing to do it. It's like, if you're a fall to sleep on your arm and you wake up. Every night. You wake up. I honestly think I have a problem. Well, no, you wake up and you feel like you're paralyzed because you can't feel like

it's part of your body. And you bang it against the wall a few times. Every night. Right? That's what it feels like when I touch Randy. It's like touching my own cold, dead self. And so I'm explaining that to it's giving me too much credit. I'm explaining to him.

Being with Randy is lonier than being alone. Okay. I explain it. I didn't need that. We're not married. It's okay. So we, we, I explain that to him. The guy's like, oh, you got it.

Oh, you got it. It's like, oh, you guys have this. The best is that our dad, who's no longer alive, but when this episode aired, he's a funny guy. He was like, you guys, after it aired. So the Elhold episode is we're both in love of the same woman. We decide, spoiler alert, this is 20 years old. We're spoiling a few.

If you haven't watched it by now, sorry. If you haven't re-streamed it on Netflix, screw you. So we separate, we get the surgery to separate to find out which, who she's going to end up with just so she could be with one of us and not both and we can settle this like this love triangle and then we decide that we don't want this woman to break up our friendship and our friendship and our relationship and so we decide to get not get rid of her but to neither of us are going to salvage this relationship over everything and it's a beautiful episode it was great and we got to be in like seven or eight scenes and we got to watch katherine higle have a meltdown

because mcdreamy got to leave early one night it was great oh that's a little bt yes oh yeah you what's behind the scenes. So we were in a massive scene. We'll get to all this. I know we're spilling so much tea right out the gates. Oh my God, Jay. We're in a massive scene. We're with like, they're all,

all the doctors come in to look at us because we're like this crazy freak show. Freak show of a thing. And so everyone's in it, which means every single actor has to have their coverage. You need your single shot. They should have a master shot in a scene,

which is everybody. And then they start going down the line and picking off everyone. Just so you can get, everybody's like, what's that? And they're lines. And Patrick Dempsey early on says to the director, and it is a young director.

He's like, hey, I have this benefit dinner that I have to be at tonight, that I'm the featured person out. They want me there. Is there any way to shoot my stuff out early? Whether he's saying the truth or not, I don't know, but he seems sincere. No way to verify.

Right. I'm sure he does a lot of charity work. It is Patrick Dempsey at the height of his McDreamy. At the height of his deadsiness. He's the most McDreamy on earth. This is never, he's never been more Dempsey in the moment. Yeah, he's so McDreams. No, this is the week after Isaiah Washington.

Is it Isaiah Washington? Yeah, I think so. He had the homophobic slur. And he wasn't in the episode. And there's like extra eyes on this thing. I mean, there were 27 million people watched this episode that we were in. And when it aired initially, it was so popular that they, when we went and audition, we auditioned with dummy sides.

They weren't even the script because they didn't want people walking out of the thing telling like TMZ or whoever that's what it's about. I even know if TMZ was a thing back then, it was 2005. Anyway, so Dempsey's out. They shoot him first. And Catherine Hago finds out that he gets to leave early. She goes into her trailer and will not come out. Locks in for like, now I'm stuck to this asshole in, like in this prosthetic.

We're like, can we get out of this? Objectively doesn't make sense, Catherine. Yeah, exactly. But she is trying to make a point, Natalie. Like I. She's stubborn. Right. This is me.

I'm going to hold up the whole production if you don't. Like, I'm going to make it so that everyone is upset. So it everyone goes to her trailer. We can't leave because we're in this prosthetic because they're like, If we get them back right away, we want to go right away. We don't want you guys to get out of it and then have to get back. You're on standby as conjoined twins. Just sitting in a stairwell.

Touching my cold dead self. I'm like, oh my God. When you walk, did you have to kind of like hop? Yeah, we had to like three-legged race it across the room. So our dad coming back to that, he was a, he watched the episode. And he would never watch any episode of Gray's Night. Imagine your dad watching The Real Housewives of Orange County. Probably not.

No, he was not. so he watches and he's like calls us afterwards and he's like you guys need to call shonda rhymes we're like we'll get right on it yeah sure sure she's in our phone call shonda rhymes and tell her you want to come back on the show next week and get sewn back up together which we're like that is the dumbest idea ever and then we're like no holy shit that is the most crazy anatomy story ever can you imagine are you shodd around two two conjoined twins get separated realized they They miss it. It's like being in jail and not knowing how to live out in the real world. It's like in Shawshank when he does know how to do it. He has to go back to jail. So it's like, so is back up. Do you all know the conjoined twins that are?

And in Minneapolis. We've tried. They're the ones who once a country music star and the other ones in a wheelbarrow. No. Oh, no. No. Abbey and Brittany, they like had a TLC show. It's two, yeah, it's two heads. Two heads.

One body. But they just, they went to college and they had to pay separate tuition. F that. But then they had to. job and they only got one salary. It's like us. What do we say? Y'all understand. We get it. We get it. It's fun getting paid like

one person. Do you get? Who's the Danny DeVito and who's the Arnold Schwarzenegger? So, um, just in terms of aura and Riz I like Schwarzenegger. I think we're both, a little bit of both. A little bit of Schwarzenegger. Although I will say that we did, it's always sunny in Philadelphia and

DeVito is the coolest. You gotta love that guy's career comes out of the gates with taxi then he does all these great movies he's fantastic and you're like what else does he need to do then he jumps in on arguably one of the best comedies of all time and is just brilliant off the hook can hang with the young comedy he is such an unhinged character when we were shooting that show like there's you know the set is what it is and it's a bar it's a bar and then there's an office like there's the his office and they're shooting a bunch of stuff out in the and he's just like hanging out in his office like just do it out of his office right and he's just not even in the scene so he's like instead of going back to his trailer he knows he's got to work he's just hangs out right there so opposite of katherine high going exactly he's ready to go with the drop of a hat who's the legend in the business who's the legend who's the person we all don't throw so much shade but the point is i don't throw so much shit at kathman the point is i like 23 out of the 27 of her dresses right i'm being nice so we walk into his offices they're just setting up a shot or something they're real lighting it or whatnot walking to his office and we just sit down and we just start chatting with him

he was so nice like he could have been like you guys i need some time to myself was that like the most iconic person you've worked with oh my god no we worked on we did wild hogs so we worked with uh chan travolta tim allen bill macy ray leota may he rest in peace and uh and marissa tome craziest moment on that but like for us on that movie bt s like crazy moment is we're hanging out Martin Lawrence to I mean great great so Martin Lawrence had an assistant named Sean was it Sean

Sean was assistant and who was the other woman Denise we never saw Sean was constantly turning and yelling to a person we never saw yeah Denise Denise we need some where are you Denise I've never seen Denise would it show up no it just for the so the best so one of the best moments is

we're sitting in the area where all the you know producers everybody say it's called video village they have like the two video screens of whatever we're in the studio you know you guys know i'm just explaining for your fans who for audience there's an area where the people and i know they don't know i know you know but there's an area for people to know it's called video village where you if you're an actor in the next scene you sit in these like chairs and producers sit there and anyone else who's on the set the writer and so we're sitting there just waiting because our next scene is up and like marissa tomey is right here and academy award winner marissa toa two rows above

in front of us is Travolta who was very nice and very just incredibly open and just he was very very cool and uh martin lawrence walks over with his daughter who was probably about 14 or 15 years old at the time this is years ago and uh he just nudges john we watched this whole thing happen it's like between scenes again they're setting up there's a lot of downtime on the set and he nudges john he's like do it john to do it for her we do it for her is my daughter and john's so nice and John Travolta sitting in a director's chair sings like full-throated voice I got chills

all the way through it's electrifying so we're like just sitting there like I can't believe this shit is happening right now and Mrs. Tomey gets up and screams like she's at a slumber party and she's a school girl I was like I cannot this is the guy who sang that song

he was in greasy What was the reaction from Martin Lawrence's daughter? She loved it. She loved it as much as Marissa Tomey. She was like a typical 14-year-old girl. It was like, yeah, cool, okay, very. It was better in the movie. Whatever.

I mean, it just was, I mean, so we have had the distinct pleasure. See, that's the opposite of my, like, so like one, right after I was, one of the times I was on the bash shirt, I went to do, like, the press tour. And Mario Lopez was supposed to interview me. He rests in peace. I know he's not dead I just want to get a good night's sleep That's it But I was told before I interviewed him

He needs his 8 to 10 Do not ask him about saved by the bell Don't Why? You made your bones on that brother That's like telling a kid Don't look at the mark On the guy's face

I was like You can't say that I dressed up as you for Halloween I cut the sleeves off of so many shirts Because of you bro And I can't talk about it I think he's mad Meanwhile John's singing

I mean, Mario Lopez, first of all, can we just say looks great at whatever age? Has an aged. He's incredible. So I give him. I mean, I think we look great. We don't look like Mario Lopez. No, Mario Lopez looks phenomenal, number one. Number two, congratulations on having working all this time.

This is wonderful. If I saw him, I'd be like, this is great. Look what you built out of the, I think he's mad that he had to do like a ballet. I wish I was the guy in every hotel room in the world, maybe, certainly in America. Yeah. Maybe. I would love to be good in one hotel room. I don't have to be in all the other than I like to be the superstar in one hotel. Well, is there any reality TV show that y'all would like love to make a cameo in?

Yeah, Jay, you, I mean, you, I feel like I could appear on Vanderpump. Now that the new cast is coming, we don't know who's, too. Jay likes a couple extra pumps on the old pumper. Okay. I'll tell you why, because, and I think I was, we were talking about this with you and we hung the other day, which was, there is a British documentary series called 7 up, 7 up, 14 up, 21 up, 28 up. They take these kids and they look at them every seven years and they put it all together in a thing.

It's a, it's a, there's been like, it's fascinating. I think they're up to 70. I think these people are in their 70s now, started in like the 1960s. It is so fascinating. And when I started watching Vanderpump, I'm like, oh my God, if they keep going for like 10 or 12 years, they're basically doing it without the seven year breaks. we're watching these people age in real time. We're watching them go from crazy young partiers

in their early 20s to starting to have relationships to then breaking up from their relationships to then getting married to then starting to have kids and you're like, oh, this is the cycle of adult life that we're watching through these like nine people or eight people's lives. What would you do if you came onto that show? I don't know.

I mean, I would let you have that one. Pick a fight with like Jacks? No. Yeah, would you take your shirt off and pick a fight? by basically rubbing each other's nipples against each other. That would be.

That happened, season one. That happened season one. What would you just, like, make a pump tini and like? Yeah, a pump tini. Yeah, what if I'm just suddenly behind the bar at time time? Would you go to Hawaii and steal sunglasses from the 7-Eleven? Maybe I'd be a P-I and try to get all the information on, is it Rachel or Raquel? Like, I want to know who's saying it right.

I want to, because they're like, they were all just assuming it's Raquel. You don't would be great is if you did collect all that information and then we came on one episode and gathered everyone together. You could cut it and like totally out of it. And we break the news as to what it is. And we go off on all the people who've been doing it wrong. Didn't we do a short film, a short thing with Ariana? Yeah, we did.

We did before when she was like acting. When she was, well, she tried to do comedy. She tried to do stand-up. She takes comedy very seriously. I don't know if you do that about her. I mean, apparently we did not. We did not. We were still in the comedy world.

Yeah, no. I mean, we were in a little. a short film that our friends did I think it's you know she came in at the end it was the assistant

we watched I watched the bachelor this past bachelor Grant and that was fascinating

and interesting and you know cool I was I kept waiting for Grant to not be who he was but I think I was like

there's got to be another shoe to drop here but they're no longer together so I think there's like a little bit of

maybe some tea out there yeah there's I think there's something we don't know. There's something we don't know. Right? Like what? Were you feeling that too a little bit like in him like because I'm like he can't be this

great. I was feeling like Julie. No, I was feeling like Juliana was like the safe like the type of girls he's always dated. And Latia was maybe like a little bit more mature than him. She was like ready to settle down. Yes. But also had like a weird religious kind of lane that she was in that was like this is who she is.

This is like how hardcore do I have to get? to be with you. Right. And how much of myself do I have to change in order to fit into this thing? It was unclear. It was unclear. Do I have to become LDS? LDS?

Yeah, like, do I have to go down that road? And I'm like, I don't know if you can. Does he have to stop drinking coffee? Right. Can he do coffee in a month? Can you get two more wives? Yeah. Do we not have sex?

And I just, someone jump on the bed while I'm, like, near you. And then like, then we. Soaking. What is it? Soking. Well, we do have a rapid recap of the most recent episode of Real House of Orange County. Let's go. So, can we just, and the truth is, like, we're huge sports fans, too.

We did a show on ESPN for four years that ran for a decade. And we guest hosts, like, Jim Rome's radio show, all this stuff. So, like, we are deeply entrenched in the sports world as well. Watch a lot of sports. Love it. But we also watch the reality. Yeah, so I feel like the Real Housewives at times and can be more competitive and more intense than, like, the craziest sporting event you've ever seen.

No, I talk about these, the characters, the women in the show, like, fan like my fantasy football team yeah i do there are moments where i'm like ooh katie had a good week yeah she only got called out for lying once or she got one call out this week for videotape which i thought was a good joke it was a good joke solid jokes she likes to she like unexpected shannon she likes to record things i'm like shannon how'd you come up with that joke and you can't open up your suitcase it's so good and in that moment we're like all right that's a good dig but how did she and she took it well so like in those ways Katie took it well in that moment.

Were you surprised that she took it well? Did you feel like she could have? It's almost like when a receiver gets hit coming over the middle and then gets right up. And it's like, okay, okay, okay, okay. I felt like she took it. I felt like she was, you know, like, you know what? I walked right into that.

You can have it. She really did. Yeah, she walked right into it. But like, I don't know, I'm sorry. So you didn't mean interrupt. But that's how we, so if we discuss it in those terms, that's how we sometimes view it. You get it.

Yeah, I get it. All right. Here is our rapid recap. If you didn't catch this week's episode of the Real House Wives of Orange County. Gina finally moved and she has a pantry. Huge news, but her man's ex is still an issue. Routing for your girl, Gina, not the ex. Tamara found a fatty photo of gin and showed everyone, which is a word that is somehow. Stop sharing the fatty photo. Jesus Christ. What the hell. Also, not that hell. Also, not like a flowy shirt is suddenly fat.

Apparently, if I gain five pounds, that's a fatty photo. It's a puffy shirt. Let's not, like, let's not call the player the, let's not say that the player is the uniform. Right. Like, just because you're wearing a puffy red. It was a little. Oversized. Little oversized, sure. We're not suddenly going to question. It looked like a morning after drinking. Thank you.

It looked like she was just chilling and hanging out in her big jeans. It was like when people this summer started going after Patrick Mahomes for having a dad bod on the beach. It's like the guy's insane. Let him be who he is. Let him cook. We know who he is at the end of the season. We don't need to start going after her for an old pick. We don't.

But it was the fatty pick that was heard around the world. But it also, Tamara's the one who called it fatty. And then everyone's like no one. He said fatty. No one put fatty in quotes. Everyone was just like, it's a fatty photo. They're like, yeah, no, she does look fat there. Yeah, that is.

Whoa. This is the alleged fatty photo we've been talking about. This is. But don't worry, the fat shaming is part of a new type of therapy Tamara is doing where you don't change your behavior whatsoever, but use it as an excuse for work purposes. Genius. I'm in therapy. Guys, guys, I'm just having a really difficult time.

She's just having a really difficult time. Heather cannot see Tamara's perspective, but she can see one's perspective on fat shaming, which leads Jen to think that Heather is bamboozled, which is a work. that should be back in the cultural lexicon, even if she did not use it 100% correctly. Also, Gretchen calls Tamara delusional, which is a correct way to use a word, so points to her.

Then we've got Jens X still not paying his child support, blah, blah, blah, but the girls are going to New Orleans. Will this trip hold up to the Vanderpup Rules New Orleans trip? Only time will tell. Slade should do drag. Already we're doing... Slade and drag, oh my God. Slade and drag.

Although he wouldn't fully commit to it because he's not fully... He's not married to her. Life partner. So true. You want to talk about... We talk about that in terms of sports. It's like, give her a full, give her a 10-year contract.

Like at this point, you're making every year a contract here. She's got to like hustle. You have to prove it every year? There's no signing bonus. She breaks his dick and I'm like, this is over. Remember she broke it. This now. Yeah, what is he good for that?

Why are we not? Captain Hook. Already we're doing great, though, because no one knew they were on the Mississippi River. The girls think every log is a gator and Shannon's going full frontal with her coot-coot out. Amazing, no-no. That, can we just like talk about that? I was like, there was... She just let it breathe.

Also, yeah. She did not make an attempt to, like, cover it up. No. She actually... And why would she? She kept it open. And I'm like, there was enough. She kept the mouth of the Mississippi open. It's the old Delta. Camera's front and center. I'm just saying there was... A lot of cargo. A lot of cargo. We're going to drop a barge in there.

Plus, it's revealed Terry wears lifts. Jacks Taylor, you are not alone. Incredible business idea. Y2K platforms for short kings available only at Big and Tall. But if you're a short king, you can only go to big and tall if you purchase the lifts. We are open to brand deals here at the Vow Files. Then Jen says her vagina doesn't work.

The episode ends peacefully, but I don't imagine it will stay that way for long. Overall, is Gretchen secretly the invisible man in the detective outfit. Will Shannon be able to battle voodoo magic? Find out next week on the Real House. I'm glad we have two, three men in this room for an episode that talks about a vagina. Not working. It works still. Let's be honest.

Well, only the tip. Only the tip. They made it tighter. I can't even, I can't begin to participate in this conversation. I also, I don't really understand. Apparently, she got pelvic floor. She got her pelvic floor worked on. Worked on.

Which I will, not like maybe like TMI, but after Natalie had her, our first child, our doctor gave us, doctor gave me a high five. Yeah. Oh, really? Based on her pelvic floor status. Oh, it was good. My pelvic floor status. Yeah. It was good or bad.

Apparently it was game changing. Game changing. It was MVP. It was MVP. The kegles do wonders. I don't know what that means, Doc. The pelvic floor, your pelvic ceiling is true. So I feel like maybe that's what Jen.

Jen, maybe the children. She does have a lot of children, although some of them have been adopted. Wait, does Jen have a lot of children? And the craziest thing is the adopted children affected the pelvic floor. Somehow more than the other ones. Is that like having a garage with a gravel floor? Yeah, that's like, we got a, we got a, this is decomposed granite down here. It might have some runoff if it rains too much.

Let's, can we breathe? Run off on her pelvic floor. It's not something you want to talk about. And we're back to the Mississippi River, guys. Them saying that her mouth is tired, a hunt, I mean, there's no way, Ryan. No. He, that, you can tell him by his face. He loves a, he loves a good homer.

He loves a good homer. He's like, you got to give me something. Yeah, he, he should, I showed up with a broken knee. Right. And I'm going up and down the stairs to show you dresses. Also, don't make him go up and down the stairs. Just show you dresses and then go to parties. Also, can we just like, I know you mentioned this at the beginning, like, is

Gina's house big? I don't think it's that big. Everyone walked in is like, it is, you know, I know, I know where it's low. Okay, David. So nice. Shannon's saying it's nice. It's like a dig. That's literally a dig. Like she said it eight times. Like, do you think it's nice? Well, one's opinion. One would we think that it is. So let's get back to her for a second. Heather, talking about the lifts that her husband has. Okay. Her, she has a lot of money. Like she's clearly perhaps the most wealthy. Like she's the Jerry Jones of the whole thing. Like she's got the cash. She could bankroll the whole trip and she wanted to. And then she's complaining about lifts from China. Like what does that mean? The lifts are. so expensive that those are the last shoes he's ever going to buy. Lifts is ever going to buy? Like, it sounds like you can afford tons of lifts and everything from China's cheap. So,

I don't understand that whole logic started going down a weird road. She's very like, how is this presented? Like, Heather, I'm sure, has a ruler. You know how like we do for our kids as they grew up? Like, there's the linen closet. We opened the door and we mark their height as they, we marked that as they've grown up.

You guys ever was one ever taller than the other growing up? Now, we're about the same. We're about the same. But Jay, Jay, you have those Sakai's. Oh, I have these Japanese shoes. I didn't wear them today. These Japanese Sakai, Nike, like, collabs. And they make me like an inch and a half tall.

And your kids just do so much shit about it. When I put them on to go do comedy, my 11-year-old daughter and my wife start roasting me. Are you going to put on your high-heel shoes to go do comedy? You're going to put on your high-hue shoes. I'm like, hey, if anything, they're wedges. Thank you. And then I high-five, no one.

Because they are more like wedges. So I'm sure, like, Heather has like a closet door that you open up and like she marks her height versus Terry's height. For sure. You'd think that Terry would have like a Dior or you know like some sort of name brand. Terry's too high to care. He's like three joints in her right. I think Terry would like

perform surgery on his like knees or something. Yeah, can't he extend? Get the extended. Lengthen your calves, Ter. Why can he do that? Didn't he have a show? He had a TV show like a plastic surgery show. Votched. Votched. So maybe he botched his height. That's the problem with that show is like if it does go off the air, you're like, yeah. Someone

screw that up. You don't want to make the name of your show a mistake. Right. What's the name of your plastic surgery show? Canceled. No. No. They fucked it up. They were fixing everyone. I know. They were fixers. They were fixers. It was like fixer upper. Right. The HGTV show. It's like instead of flip this house, it was flip this bitch. Exactly. Flip her face. Why can't he fix Jen's vagina? Get in there and open it up. So true. Open it up, Terry. That is a good point. Is that a cosmetic

procedure? I don't know if insurance would cover. What are the chances Jen is just faking this because she doesn't want to have sex with her boyfriend? I think they're so obsessed with each other. She definitely want to have sex with her. He is. I can't say that she's obsessed with her. They always call each other. They're like, you're so hot, God, you're so sexy. It's just, you're so hot. Yeah, but we all know that when you say that a lot, when you say that a lot, it's always. I never tell my wife she looks good. And I think she's, no, Nick's like, you look nice. James Dorson. What are you? What are you?

Gina's house? Nice today. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, but I do not think, and correct me of my mind, I'm not like here to say, you know, you go see these shows and you're like, these houses should be enormous. Okay, if you're living down in Orange County, Heather's house is enormous. Everyone else is dealing with like a divorce. You know, Jen can't pay rent.

She reminded us that she got evicted this episode. Right. Listen, Heather is getting on top. Heather is the most like. active athlete in this bitch she is she is although jenn is like in the best shape of everybody in the whole thing well you know tamra wants her tummy tuck that you know like the Tamara used to do fitness competitions we saw that a couple episodes back then gin also

wanted to do fitness competitions so now so do we think jenn is trying to white single female this shit well we did interview tamra last week you did oh yeah baby for going deeper if you haven't listened to it it's a full 70 minutes of unplugged Tamara. How is she, was she just like spilling tea left and right and just giving opinions? She's an whole back. She doesn't all back. She is cool.

I buy that. She is very much herself. Yeah. Well, she showed up where this is like a job and I kind of respected it. It's just like, I don't really. She knows what she has to do. Like I might be in therapy, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to like deliver like great one liners and snark to my cast. I'm going to ask this.

Do you think for real? Do you think she's happy? Tamara? Yeah. I honestly don't think the show. I think she was happier when she was like put on pause. She was just doing her podcast with Teddy and she was like not

I think the show I mean it makes yeah I mean you have to create drama right or people are coming at you her friend dealing with obviously that's terrible cancer horrible if I had to guess I would say Tamara is one of the happier housewives in this universe because she

comes across as someone who can just who doesn't live in her character she seems like she can actually separate the two where she shows up for work there's some drama yeah she understands the assignment if I want to be a part of this world people are going to talk their shit

I got to dig in I got to dig in you're going to certainly deal with many unsavory rumors I feel like even last over the weekend Tamara was like addressing some like hateful like Facebook rumors that weren't true whatever but that aside she seems like she doesn't live inside her character shoes

where it seems like other people in Bravo there really is There's no disconnect. They're like, this is who I am and I have to play up to that, which, by the way, is like being in your own sort of like prison because you can't get out of that. Do we think, I have a crazy off topic question. Do we think Emily hasn't had her moment on this, in this season yet? I feel like she's been kind of stuff.

I think a kid who won't eat food is her like storyline of the season and her short husband, Shane. And her ass. And her ass. That was a random like, hey, she's like here. Just my ass. It's a great ass. But it was a random, like, pull up my dress. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's, I mean, that was a, that was a beauty shot. Yeah. That was a, that was a Shannon. Are we going to look at this? I'm not pulling this down. Yeah. Yeah, Emily's never really been like a star, you know, or. No, she's not a, she's not a, but she's not a potster and she's not a, like there are

potsters and there are people who make the piece. She feels like someone who makes the piece. She tries to make the piece and do you think that that hurts her in this, in this scenario. Like, I can never see. I mean, yeah. she did come with Gina to the coffee to ambush Katie if you like that was

Katie shows up here's a sports analogy Katie shows up thinking she's going to play man on man it's one-on-one then all of a sudden two people show up and she's like oh shit I got to run zone now I got to cover a whole area I got to take shots over here like what am I doing right now when do I pick up the ball? My favorite is like when

a subject is done and then they keep bringing it back up like they keep coming back at it three episodes later Three episodes like, I was like, didn't we solve this at the weird Japanese restaurant where you had to get your food from like a 7-11? No, they never saw it. But back to your question, do we think that Jen's really single white female Tamara?

Do we have, I want to play a clip for Randy and Jason to see what they think about what Tamara is. I'm curious to hear what Tamara. Because I think on the show, she says, yes, she is. She is coming from.

And according to Heather, she doesn't necessarily believe Tamara's version, but one could. One could. One could. That's such a very good people on all sides. She literally is saying, I 100% believe that. Yeah.

It's like there's a fatty picture. Tamara thinks you're obsessed with her, like all this stuff. Okay, so I'll take it back. So Jen started coming to my gym, like, I don't know, 2019, maybe. And she wanted to do a fitness competition. And, you know, she wanted to open up a gym, a yoga studio. And so I didn't know her. I didn't know her at all.

And some of the people in my studio are like, be careful of her. She's obsessed with getting on the housewives. I go, what do you mean? She's so sweet. She has busters animals and adopts kids. Like, she's the sweetest girl ever because she, like her, like, innocent game is strong. So she came with receipts from other people that weren't just her. Like that was, that's what makes that clip interesting because she's like, other people told me, like, I didn't.

Someone sent her the scouting report. I do think that every woman around these women's age in Orange County wants to be a housewife. Totally. And every woman wants to have that. Okay. What is being a housewife mean in Newport Beach if I'm in my brain? If you're not a house, if you're not a real housewife of the OC, then you are one of many who shows up at restaurants and has to wait for your tables who has no one coming up to them being like, I saw you in. Like, you live the life of Clark Kent.

We did a comedy show at the Pendry Hotel down in Newport Beach, which is a beautiful hotel and really cool. And they have this, like, club and a back room. And, I mean, we did it for these people there. We came out just to get our cars and, like, drive back up to L.A. The scene there. To get into the Pendry. At the valet stand.

But it was the bar spilling out there. They love a celebrity sighting. So, so they love a celebrity site. down there more than anything. And if you can be that celebrity that everyone is talking about, and if you're the coolest person in that whole bar scene on that night in Saturday night. Who wouldn't want that? That's right.

Who wouldn't want that? Orch County is a small town. It is. Without having to go through the paces of building an entire, like, acting career or whatever career, if you can just jump in and just spill a bunch of tea and be that person in this series. And you're like, I'm attracted. So, yeah.

So if someone starts coming around and being like, I want to open my gym and starts asking a lot of questions to Tamara. Like, I love that Tamara's receptors weren't even up that, like, this person could be angling to be on. Right. I feel like that's a little bit, like, uh... Like, you gotta be, you gotta be aware that this is happening. But I kind of totally get in that world

because so much of that world has, like, is about bloggers and fans interacting with Bravo celebrities. That's right. That's true. And who is the, who's angling for it and who's just being a fan? Yeah. And it, like, and there's a lot of, like, not respecting personal brown injuries because fans are like

hey we pay your salary type of thing also we know you in most we see so much of your personal life so I can see why I got OG like Tamara feels uncomforty what the idea of someone who gets casted who presented as like a fan first so the big thing for me which is really interesting is like the the one thing that most housewives really want certainly this season is they want people to own up to their past shit that's like the thing it's like I want her to admit that she said

some mean stuff a long time ago she has to take responsibility for what she said that's a big thing if someone doesn't take responsibility for what they said to a blogger about this or what they said about my kids and the custody everyone's got custody issues everyone's got custody issues

FBI's been called to two houses yeah but like if people don't own up to what they did which is why Katie is such like gets so much heat all the time because she seems to never say it. Well, going back to Emily, we learned just, Gina went on Watch What Happens Live and dropped the bomb that,

I don't know if y'all watched, but last reunion, there was this whole, you know, Emily revealed all of this. Well, Katie, you went in this crazy custody battle and you had to, like, give your kids up to your ex-husband. She had to go to a facility in Atlanta. And turns out all of that really came from Heather Dubrow.

And Heather Dubrow just, like, gave Emily Gina was like Heather Yeah Gina was definitely nervous to say it was Heather who did the digging

but Emily was the one who delivered and she honestly she delivered without having to be like wait Heather what was it that happened I don't remember everything you told me like she was she clocked at all

she did it all Do you think she should have said that wait god no I think it was awful but as to have you think she should have said Heather I mean that would have been the ultimate The ultimate is she goes in hard like hard in the paint on on katy about the losing your kid and having to be a facility and then just to the very last detail i'm sorry Heather what what you're telling me to say this to her did i get all the things you told me right would have been the best turn how great would that turn of being in there just turn the screw on her because you know Heather would probably been like um I I didn't not me but one yeah one would think that's yeah that's exactly what one would say one could have said something also how

It's about like they're at the, they're in this like enormous room with a little table eating in New Orleans. That's supposedly haunted. Supposedly haunted. What happened there? Who, she got water spilled on her back? No, it was a chocolatini like a espresso martini. And then they tried to say that it was the ghost. It was definitely like the waiter who just like spilled it up.

I watched it too. Accidentally the waiter like maybe the ghost maneuvered the waiter's hand. Was the ghost telling them to lay down and and pretend like they're having sex from behind? Well, that was an interesting moment. They all talked about their favorite positions. That was like, also just one little side note is like I do think it is great that you at your party, Heather, have the do the shot, throw it at a gong. Definitely do not. The party that no one was at.

Part of the no one was at. Definitely don't have Katie be the first one to throw a glass at a gong. Also feels like a slipping hazard. I don't know. Ice everywhere. Yeah, they're not quick to clean it up. So there's broken glass on the ground. I think it's all ice.

It's like frozen ice. Oh, it's like slipping. Oh, it's ice. Okay. Still, still. Ice melts. Ice melts, it becomes water, it becomes a hazard, and it's a problem. And I doubt they had the yellow, like, slipping signs.

Caution, Cudado. Do you think Terry was just like, I'm just going to start smoking joints as soon as I get there? Oh, when Terry shows up high. Hi, Terry's like, got there, smoked it. Wait, where's my weed? What happened to it? Where's my weed? We watched you smoke it down, bro.

Yeah, bro. Please tell me you're not high as you're doing your. I think he has to get hot. That's how you botched stuff. That's literally how you botched though. He's the fixer. Randy, Jason, thanks so much for Coven.

Yeah, loved it, so much fun, man. Where can people find you, follow you? I know you guys are on tour. Tell them all the things. All right.

So you guys have fans in Phoenix. I'm sure you have lots of fans in Phoenix. We have shows coming at, live shows. Come support live comedy. It's so much fun. Our show is a blast. Great date night.

It's a great date night. It's a desert ridge improv, which is kind of near Scottsdale. How come there isn't a real house housewives of Scottsdale? that's got to happen that should happen immediately we'll be there at the desert rid of jambrov one show Thursday two Friday two Saturday super fun stuff 14 15 16 yeah that's the end of this week that's this week that's this week holy crap so we'll be there this week and that's cool spontaneous if you have nothing going on this

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and they've been in some cool, cool stuff over the years. Don't forget tomorrow's reality recap. We have Lisa Hoxton with us to get into all things Miami, but specifically her very public, very messy divorce. We are talking with her tomorrow. Plus we have Brian joining us tomorrow from Bachelor in Paradise

to tell us his favorite color. Give his side of the story why he decided to do what he did tell Jeremy down the river so to speak. And Freddie from perfect match. And we'll get into a lot of perfect match tomorrow. because today was so jam-packed heavy with some other shows.

We'll get into episode 7, 8, and probably 9. Maybe we'll save 9 for Thursday because Sandy joins us on Thursday for an episode of reality recap. It's a jam-packed week full of your favorite reality TV stars all week long. But before we get to Andrew, who is up next, we got a little rapid recap of Real Housewives of Miami before we get into Andrew. Well, if you didn't catch last week's episode of The Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap. We started this episode out strong with a trip to a high-end doggy brothel, where Adriana is taking her dog, Baskiat for one night of pleasure before he gets clipped. And people say Florida has no culture. Then we get a Dr. Jackie from Mary to Medicine cameo to hype Gertie up.

It turns out Julia's daughters aren't loving that Julia and Martina adopted two baby boys without really communicating with them that they plan to adopt two baby boys. So maybe Gertie really didn't piss Julia off and she's just like that. But who's to say? Most importantly, though, Marisol is having a preppy luncheon and the LaCost is lacosting, mama. Gertie's take on preppy was much more Avrilavine core, which is, of course, putting a tie on a normal outfit. And Larsa didn't dress preppy, she dressed slutty. This makes sense because preppy and slutty are actually the only two legal style options for rich women in South Florida. If she and Lisa could only realize that they are slut allies, two sides of the same slut coin, perhaps one day.

God, I want to be called a slut, so bad. Can you be my slow ally? I would love to be your sly ally. We can make it happen. That is so chic. Slot ally. Anyway, Adriana is getting her master's in psychology from Harvard online. So she wore a Harvard sweatshirt.

Marisol is not impressed by this, as she also has a Harvard sweatshirt that she got the airport in Boston. Right. Gertie and Julia seem to make up, but we don't believe it. Stephanie and Alexia debate one Rottweiler versus 100 Chihuahuas. And finally, Alexia turns down an offer to fly on Stephanie's private plane because she is a woman of the people. Doesn't like Stephanie. Overall, do we think Basquat got the other dog pregnant? Why do we want to wear Lacost now?

Who will ride in Stephanie Soj's Jet? Find out next week on the Real Housewives of Miami. A couple observations this episode specifically around Julia, one, she's a stunner. Julia. Yeah, she is. She is hot. Those flashback photos, I mean, just like, let's just give her prop. She's an absolute babe.

Also, I didn't know her wife was like. Martina Navakalova. I did not realize that. I just didn't. I just thought she was just another wife. Can I have a little lore drop? Not about me. but about the show at the L Word.

If anyone is familiar with it? I'm familiar with the L Word. You're familiar with the L Word? Love that for you. It's a popular show in HBO. Popular show from the 2000s. And if you were a person that was watching Showtime in the 2000s or just a gay person, you would probably watch the Elwood.

Yeah, it was Showtime. Anyway, the character Dana, who was a tennis player, they reference Martina Navakilova all the time in earlier seasons because she was like the only gay tennis player and I think they based her character on it a lot and then when I was watching Miami and saw that the real life, Martina Navaclova is married to Julia

from the Real Housewives of Miami, it broke my brain and it was a crossover that like I didn't know. It kind of broke my last night. But also just like, we said this a few weeks ago but like talking about her daughters, we were right. The introduction of her adopted children has been the most bizarre revelation

or just kind of, I don't, disclosure or just feature i don't yeah but her own children are kind of like what what's going we're confused what's like we have brothers cool it's a weird thing yeah it's a weird thing it's interesting also just like in general like watching housewives it's just like and now it being new parents like there's a lot of housewives out there whose children aren't talking to them and i think a lot of times we want to like i think as people like judge that but you never know i hope her daughter always talks to us but yeah next always like listen she could be pissed at you for like you not letting her have those gummies and she could like carry that grudge for years yeah yeah i just you know what if maybe maybe we can't help it maybe kids don't want to

talk to their parents i don't know i think it's tough to be a kid of a reality tv star yeah an active reality tv star in their 50s i can't imagine you know what i mean like it was like trying to save the exclusive for the tv show so they don't tell the kids the daughters that they also have a new sibling like that would be hard it's not even the whole storyline of the cruise ship that happened a year like it's just kind of like you just never know like I just feel like no one is safe in the immediate realms of a reality TV star especially a Bravo housewife yeah unless they like purposefully set up those boundaries but a lot of the times when you don't you're off the show because you either need to make everyone else's drama your drama or you got to show with something so we

quickly talk about the seating chart of Miami the Rami reunion filmed over this past week yeah Allegedly people are pissed about Stephanie Sojay's being first chair next to Andy. Why are people pissed? Sorry she ate down this season. Thank you. I was like for a newcomer, honestly, whoever is doing the casting for these housewife shows. Wait, Julia's second chair. Why are we even, why don't we just call it what it is Andy's favorites?

Gertie is Gertie and Julia. Wait, the one that I'm looking at is Stephanie Soj and Alexia. There was two sitting charts that were released. So one of these are fake? I didn't look. fake scene i didn't look into it so i don't know whether it was like one was fake or one was just like publicity but stephanie responded to the one that had her first chair also monica garcia was first chair her season of solid city that's what i'm saying i'm like these new housewives

if they come on and they're able to not only keep up with the o g cast but also it's like stand on their own two feet and not being like bullied and ran over they deserve a first chair all up to Stephanie. It would make the most logistical sense, though, to have Gertie and Julia for chair because I do, I mean, obviously, I don't know how the rest of the season plays out, but it seems as if the big through line of the season is their drama. If their drama is the cruise ship and they got first seats because of the fucking cruise ship that happened to seven years ago, it's like, that's interesting. I'm so, yeah, like, I'm taught, like, I might be alone here, but I was like, it's not a hot take because you agree

with me clearly. I'm so sick of this storyline. I'm, if I have to watch them sit down and have another apology conversation one more time either at the end of the day it's not like something crazy happened on this cruise ship one of you better big punched there was literally like there was a miscommunication and then someone said it's like it's really not that big of the deal and the one the one who was uh not allowed to come to dinner is the one who didn't bring this to cameras and then you're the one that's over here with your with your publicist on this cruise ship you didn't need gertie there in the first place yeah so like why are we continue like like i completely agree with that I don't, like, it's not like I want that drama to be the main thing we talk about at the reunion, but Stephanie very easily can be first chair and I'm totally fine with it.

Okay, this is what's on Bravo TV and it's the one with Stephanie StoJ, first chair with Alexia. Yeah, Lexia. That's great. Then Lisa and Larsa, Gertie, Julia, Adriana, Marisol, and then Kiki. What does you think of Larsa's recent face? Her PRP? Yeah, her PRP. I mean, I've done a PRP. and it didn't do that, but she did say that it was, like, swollen.

And I will say in her video from 10 miles away from the mirror. There was two. She posted two. Did she post, like, selfie style of her face? She did. Yes. With a filter. Yeah.

So that was kind of the, like. I mean, that picture that came out of her was crazy. And I'm also kind of like, that's the thing too where I'm like, I never trust anything that I see with, like, awful photos. Because I'm also kind of like how easy it is for a paparazzi or for someone to turn up, like, Like the contrast. Yeah, she does look good there. She does have a filter on there.

But at the same time, I'm like, she's also not smiling. I do feel like when you smile, obviously, like your cheeks go up. And I feel like that's what made that photo looked so insane because it looked like she had so much cheek filler. Do you ever see those like Instagram pages that are like dedicated to like fake in reality? And then it's like the reality photo. It's like somebody like Kendall Jenner on the red carpet. And then it's like her reality photo and they're like zoomed into her pores and like clearly contrasted it. when she was like 16 versus like that really in the second video Larsa claims the photo that's circulating is edited well and that's the thing

she got the PRP for the reunion and they just filmed it so I'm like you're gonna see her real face no matter what yeah but I'm like it's crazy what's PRP standard for plasma something would like they like take your blood and put it into I think we need to normalize that sometimes you get a photo taken and you look a little busted sometimes and that's fine that's every picture of me on the internet. It's me eating a sandwich. It's literally stupid, you know. Platelet rich plasma. So it's putting your own blood to rejuvenate your skin. And I lied.

I did not do this. I've done PRX. Not PRP. Yeah. But not so I was supposed to say too. I'm like, did you see that Gertie and Kiki unfollowed each other? And then Gertie responded. And it was like, I never unfollowed her.

This is news to my ears. I must be blocked. So something happened to where Kiki now is blocked Gertie. Oh my God. So maybe we need to move Kiki up on the couch. Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe we find out at the reunion. Maybe Gertie's just making sure she's back next season.

Crazy. She would have had to block. If Kiki, maybe Kiki's making sure she's back. Kiki's so great. Fans and housewives across the border are behind Gertie. I'm team Gertie. I am too. I mean, when it comes to, like, her and Julia.

Yeah. I'm like, I would love for Gertie to be able to talk about something that's not Julia. Yeah. But I'm team Gertie. Did we get a response from Heather regarding the Gina revelation? on Watch What Happens Live. We did.

Sierra, do you want to read it? Yes. Heather responded in the comment section of a blog. Let's set the record straight. That's the way to do it. It's just so sad. Let's set the record straight inside the comments. First of all, I do not research anyone.

That is not my MO. I do not have time or interest to try to dig up something on other people. For the reunion last year, there were a lot of stories in the media circling around Katie and some of us were sending them to each other because it was overwhelming and crazy. I did in fact send the article about Katie's custody to Emily. I did nothing more than that. would never have brought this up at the reunion. I actually went up to Katie during the commercial break and said to her,

this must have been very difficult time for you. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I never would have brought this up. Kids and careers are off limits. Not really sure why Gina chose to include me in her response on the show or make it sound salacious, but it was not. And just to the reminder for me in the audience, what exactly is she addressing in terms of the reunion last year?

The whole custody thing. The whole, like, you had to give your kids to you couldn't like take care of your and Emily went in hard of like you must have done something. It's very hard for women to lose custody Katie was living in her car. And Heather did just what? She just told Heather said she did not research anything

but she did send Emily the thing. Like whatever Emily chose to do said article. One does Yes, as one does. She said I'm uneducated but did send I didn't read all that. I do feel like her and Emily tag teamed that because I remember being upset with Heather during that reunion of like, Heather, don't love this.

One of them shared a story about her, like, chasing down somebody in her car. And then the other one was about her custody. So it was like, you're an awful person across the board and we don't want to be associated with you because of these things. And it just didn't hit because it's like, this wasn't related. This is actually really dirty what you guys were doing. And it just made me want to defend Katie because, like, ew, how dare you to? That was Katie.

I talked to a blogger too. You pull that shit. You guys are digging up records with people's children. What is, I didn't research, but I sent the link. That's what I'm saying is that I'm like, Emily had like a full dissertation of like all of the things that Katie was doing wrong in the process of and like what she should have done. She's like, I didn't research. I have a team. It's hard for me to believe that like Emily just found out about that information walking out on stage for a reunion.

Like she just read a like OK magazine article before walking out. And Emily is a lawyer. I just don't see Emily like just spewing out random information if it's not like. properly sourced or you know or if it's just like some link that she doesn't know where she got it from no she has too much information on that couch coming at katy to be like i just found out about this emily the lawyer gets a link from heather and she's like you know what fuck it let's just go with this i don't even know what's in this link i'm just going to open it up and start talking u.s son i trust it as a lawyer yeah i do feel like heather was upset with katy last season like i don't

Katie yeah yeah paparazzi photos she was upset the photo of them at the at the gala or whatever and it was of emily's phone looking at katie's instagram yes oh yeah like they were obsessed never forget yeah yeah living wrench free in the mutins of the OC housewives god forgot about that one i kind of hope she doesn't not come back next season like i don't know where the season's gonna go yeah i just really hope that she does come back yeah me too please kat i feel like she's just finding like her footing with these women well the fact that just like monica just like for all these women to be so rattled by Katie. It makes me want Katie on more. Even more. Yeah. And I'm like, at the end of the day, I'm like, yeah, she talked to a blogger.

You all do it. So I don't know why you guys are acting like what she did was the worst thing. I'm like the Katie recording Shannon. I can't really know if that one's showing it to Alexa. But Alexia? What's Alex? We'll talk to him. We will not go to their wedding. That's it. I think what it is. I think not to be friends with them. I think that's the thing of like, I think Katie's just like, yeah, I'm friends with the bloggers. And they're like, you don't actually say that. That's what it is. She's breaking the code of like the, the, like, she's bringing the fourth wall of the fact that they're all friends with bloggers.

Yeah, it was the same thing with Monica. It was Meredith being like, how dare you? And it's like, girl. Come on. Lisa Vanderpump. And she's like, literally radar online. All right. Well, a lot of more housewives to get into tomorrow when we have Lisa Hawkestein joins us.

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in our friend Andrew Spencer, who told me yesterday, he has a lot to say because last night episode was a little crazy, not sure what's going on on the beaches of paradise, but apparently do not tell anyone your shit, keep your business to yourself, don't call out anyone. I was team Brian. I don't know if anyone else wasn't. I was team Brian, but maybe Andrew has maybe some information for us that we're not privy to. So let's bring on Andrew To let us know His point of view

Oh my God, he's gone He quit He left I hate when you think you have time To do something He's a vampire He's like fuck this I gotta go

Oh there is Yay He needed a cup of coffee Oh wait Do you want to talk about the Chicago Cubs Andrew And the fact that the Brewers Are six games ahead of them right now

or what's up with that? Everyone, everyone goes on a run every once in a while. You know, we'll see what it happens when it gets stocked over. Okay, Nick? Right, right, right, right.

All right, anyways, we're not here to talk baseball and why the Cubs can't win a pennant race. But we are here to talk about why was everyone shitting on Brian when he was the only one who did the right thing? Who did the right thing?

It's just like, just to like recap, if Jeremy's big defense was, well, I didn't think, it would be that upsetting to Bailey. Okay, fair enough. Turns out he was wrong. It was, in fact, upsetting to Bailey. And since that he was wrong

and it was, in fact, upsetting to Bailey, then he doesn't get to be upset with Brian because, well... He thought it was no big deal. Because he thought it was no big deal. Yeah, I think the biggest thing that everyone's not really seeing is how long he knew about this knowledge

and why, and like the timing in which he brought it up to Bailey. Brian, you mean? How long? The money and, like, the competition became a thing. Oh, I think this is a good time for me to tell Bailey. That doesn't make any sense to me. I think that was, it was in bad faith. It wasn't in good faith.

So at that point, I mean, like, Brian has never talked to Bailey on the beach. Like, never had it. You just never saw them have a conversation. That's interesting information because Brian, Brian sells it as he, I think he said he loves Bailey. Yeah. You never see them talk. In that retrospect, I was just like, this is. This is odd.

This is not how it's supposed to be. Jeremy and Brian, they hang out every day. Like, Jeremy's on the beach. They work out together. Brian's always in Jeremy's room, like, hanging out. Like, you just, it was just so odd. And, like, everyone's just starting to focus on their own relationship in a way. And he decides to pull this, like, rabbit out of a hat.

Because everyone's starting to see, like, their relationship's starting to, like, there's a lot of stuff starting to happen in their relationship. And I don't think at all. it's just in my in my stance i've always been the person to never be in someone else and i think that's where i had a problem with um and if you're going to be friends and be around jeremy all the time like at least tell him he needs to go tell her like hey i think it's time for you to tell her instead of going behind i definitely agree with you there right like he definitely from i think most of the audience's point of view and apparently wells as well um like bailey had the right

to know but he should have definitely told he should have gone to his boy Germany and be like hey dude you got to you got to tell her like you she should know like she's going to be upset like there's no good time to deliver bad news so just go ahead and deliver the bad news and also like we don't get to see his ITMs like we're seeing the same things as you guys are for the first time right now first time he told me was right after I had a date with Bailey he's like hey man I'm not mad at you um you know it's just tough like I thought we were going on me and her like going on strong and you know I had to call Susie to see if she you'd come back. I was like, bro, really? You called Susie? And I'm just like, okay, I get it.

You're mad. Like, out of spite. Like, you want to, like, it happens. People have moments of laps. I didn't see his conversation with Susie. So we don't know how aggressive or how it was portrayed. In my head, I was just like, I get it. This dude's, you know, he had a moment of lapse. Like, he's, like, a little bit mad that I went on a date with a girl. He, like, picked over another girl. That makes sense. But, like, as we're starting to watch and go on, like everyone's like well why are you guys we don't know the extent of the conversations that he's having oh so now that you've seen it though does it oh when i see it it looks bad it looks really bad yeah it was really bad i didn't know he was saying that to brian you know what i mean

i never heard him say anything about susy since that but in your head so in your head you're thinking he just was like hey susy like you know if you're done you're still here yeah like she's chilling you know just like no biggie like if you're still around you're still around you know i mean i'm would love to give it a shot between us, you know, if you would willing be coming back. Like, that's what I'm thinking. Okay. You know, I did not think he was like, hey, like I, like, please tell me you're coming back. Like, I would love to see you come back.

You get here. Like, I'd post you. I don't know any of that. It was more so the like, before the conversation when he's like, we got to call Susie. Someone call Susie. Call Susie now. Where's the phone? Call Susie.

And they're like, are you serious? And he's like, I'm dead serious. He wasn't living serious. He was dead serious. He was dead. Crazy. And like, and my thing is, is also is like, he has to know they're going to put that eye. Like, the eye in the sky doesn't lie.

Like, it's all being filmed. So, like, everyone's like, well, why didn't you tell Bailey? Well, what do you mean? It's, it's all being filmed at this point. Like, why am I going to focus on someone else's relationship? I'm trying to build my own. Yeah. If it's in the outside world, I understand.

But, like. Playing Brian's advocate, what if he saw Bailey and Jeremy start to, like, really get serious? And he's like, he still hasn't fucking told her that, like, he was going to be. going to propose to Susie three days ago and like she needs to know before she starts falling more for him like he's not going to tell her I just got to get it off my chest my conscience is bad like I got to tell her that's super valid because I think that's all we were all seeing like their feelings for each other began to get really really strong so in that I'm just like oh well they smoothed it over I don't think it's he doesn't he doesn't think it's a big like big deal

they look they look like a really strong couple right now so in our eyes like why would we mess that up. Like, I don't know what he's told her. Like, if they hash it out or whatever the case may be, like, that just has nothing to do with me. I don't want to be a part of it. So I think Brian took it upon himself to just insert himself in there in a way to try to get Jeremy eliminated and Bailey eliminated. So I don't think it was out of good faith. He's known this for so long about like, you know what I mean? Everyone knew it to an extent, but we just didn't know how bad it was. I think Brian, who it worse than anyone else, In defense to Brian, though, like, shouldn't he get, you know, we agree that he should have, he should have gone to Jeremy. He should have said, hey, you need to tell her. Okay. That aside, Jeremy didn't tell her. He was supposed to tell her. It's like, fine. You know, I'm going to tell her. I'm going to tell her. And the birds, the Birds of Paradise Challenge where he like was like, I'll tell you when your mic packs off. Like, it was like, it did feel very like to Brian directly that I'm like, he got the like the brunt of it where it's like, it's on camera of Jeremy telling you this. And you're still. not saying. And it's just like, and then now you do introduce a half a million dollars. And I, I don't know. Like, if you're Brian, you're just like, why does this guy potentially get to stick around? He's leading this woman on. He's telling everyone he's going to tell her. I don't know. Like, it just, the way everyone came at him for that just seemed a bit like, I get what you're saying. The timing was. It was just, it was the timing was bad. I think everything was was really bad because at the same time, he's dog in his relationship. Like him and Parisa are, not doing well i and and what they don't show in the episode is not only do i go at him for going for jeremy i'd call him out for the way his tone is and how he's talking to parisa but they wouldn't put that on there oh yeah well that's see that's that's that's disappointed because yeah brian i have a dick he was he was he was a very aggressive person and like i feel like he wasn't

involving paris in anything like they would have these little small arguments you'd walk away from it was just like certain instances where i was just like all right where this is coming from like One thing, you have to focus on your relationship because you guys are not doing well. They had just lost that challenge. They didn't know anything about each other. Like, it was awkward. Like, it was very awkward.

It feels like coming out of, like, left field to try to, you know, make up for something so, like, he can get to the next round. So it was weird to me. I guess, do you have a different opinion? Obviously, you were there, so you were only, like, privy to certain information versus watching it back as a viewer,

watching what the rest of the audience sees? Do you have a different opinion? opinion on just like everything that went down now i do yeah i think uh i think not knowing how harsh uh jeremy was with with his words and you know seeing bailey react the way she did like i also he didn't get to see that you know it's heartbreaking i hate to see someone go through that and i wish i had knew more i wish i was told more um and also like it's like the the boy in sheep's cold like Brian like you just think he's lying because he's just like he doesn't come off as a good guy so like for him to tell even if he's telling the truth how do you know for sure he's telling the truth

if you weren't in that that room that's in well to that point what was really weird about Brian is I had no problem with him telling Bailey because from our point of view is someone's got to tell this girl and it's just like it just feels like icky or an ickyer every episode that goes by where she doesn't know but then Brian like acted like he lied to everyone about I just stand on business just be like yeah I told her because none of you fuckers would so why he's like I don't know maybe one of the

girls told her like what that's what I'm telling you it was easy it was like and then like he gets he gets out of there and he's like oh I feel really bad like it didn't go the way I thought it would go yeah you just broken up some kind of relationship like you didn't even think it through

and then when he's talking to Jeremy he's like yeah Bailey came up to me and she was like hey brought up Susie and asked like if there was anything that she would watch back on to he had this whole drawn out story he goes yeah I was talking to Bailey about Prisa about Prisa of course

Bailey asked me about Susie and so what none of that happened but like just tell the truth Brian I don't yeah that part he lost me yeah because it was so awkward when he came back to the group and it was like how long did it take for everybody to actually figure out that he did tell her because it was just like all of these side conversations of like maybe he did.

Then you have Dale believing him that he didn't talk to her about it. It seemed like the next day was when everybody figured out that like for a fact, Brian told her. It was so weird because Jeremy and Brian were close. That's why it's like and I didn't know that they had those conversations about him like staying. Like that was weird to me. I'm like seeing this for the first time. I'm like, oh, wow, I didn't know Jeremy talked to him that way.

Like those are things that are new. And obviously Jeremy's personality. very dark humor he's got like dry but funny humor um so a lot of things might be taken out of context in a way because that's just the way he is he's not like being serious for a lot of things he said but like and like same thing like everyone was just more more closer to jeremy and we just were just like man you just need to tell her that's on you like you're grown man you're like you're 30 there should be no sneak rounds going on right now omitting the truth is worse than lying almost sometimes so like what was your opinion on obviously like oh there was a lot of like guy code

guy code he should have gone to jeremy first that's guy code what is your opinion on your girl Alex who knew about this was the first person to check on Bailey but still like defended her reasoning for not coming to Bailey and being like yeah i got to tell you um it's it's a tough situation Alex was friends with Jeremy way before the show even started and she told him multiple times, like, hey, you need to tell her. And, you know, at that point, like, it's a tough situation. Like, she had just became friends with Bailey just there on the show. Like, they weren't friends before. Um, but she, like, they grew a really good friendship at that point. And, you know, I know she, she's taking it pretty hard. Uh, I, like, it's, it's, it's not

an easy thing to be, you know, to be in. Like, it's, that's a very tough situation to be it. Um, not that tough, Andrew. I mean, just like, why? I think when people, people watching it, we're just like, just, yeah, like make, if you're that close of friends with Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. It just sounds like she's saying Jeremy. Yeah, his little Midwestern accent. Anyways, if you're that close with Jay, yeah, you just be like, no, go tell her now. Like the whole, if you don't tell her, I'm going to. This like, I agree with that, you know, I agree with that. But at the same time, it goes back to you, we don't know all that was set. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, yeah, but you say, did you tell her?

You're right. And like, to me, it's not a huge deal. Like, oh, I called Susie. That's fair. I don't know how phone call went. And like, seeing it back, I'm like, oh, you needed to tell her right in the year, just how that phone call. And that's fair because obviously Brian was the only one who heard him say, like, if Susie came back, I'd propose to her right now. No one else heard him say that. So that's the only person that heard it in that type of malicious way. You know what I mean? So we all heard it. just like oh I just gave her a call and we were still like oh you should just tell her it's not a big deal like tell her and we didn't know how deep it was and it was obviously very deep one thing that troubled me the whole episode was why the fuck was jeremy sleeping the whole time like what is what is that editing is what what's going why is he in bed that was so random I don't know why he went to sleep nobody knows why he went to sleep um it was very very random I think even Alex was going to

go tell him to tell Bailey but he was sleeping before so it was like everyone knew like something was brewing it was weird like Brian was pacing around it was just it was very eerie like that day it was such a weird time knowing what you know now about how regardless of how Brian moved but how Jeremy moved would you feel comfortable with Jeremy dating your best friend's sister or your sister or like a woman that you cared about how would you feel about Jeremy dating her and communicates important things um what i mean i'm going to give grace to everyone i think uh i think this was really bad for him like it's a bad spot um but i think that everyone deserves to you know it's a learning moment at this point you can't you just got to move on and you got to do better uh obviously

from that you know those clips i wouldn't be the happiest about it but you know if someone if people love each other and you know they really want to make something work it's not my decision to tell them that you know what i mean i just i would just hope that he's uh he's a better man for it and he's learned and he's going to change his perspective on how he communicates what was your opinion on um when bailey got the rendezvous message from brian and preisa's like who was it like can you just tell me who it was and she refuses to tell parisa who it was and that's the same thing like she didn't want to tell parisa the same reason we didn't want to tell bailey you know what i mean so like that's true literally the same guys are begging for her to

it's the same thing that's what i'm saying it's like you just don't want to create drama you don't want to be a part of it like for alex does not want to be a part of drama like that is just like how we operate and also i told her multiple times like it's just not our it's not our place like but but why is that i mean this is reality tv Andrew why is the collective group have this like unspoken rule which is basically like mind your business i don't want to have a bad like is it because everyone's afraid of a bad edit or everyone's afraid of looking bad that there's like this kind of like cast code? I know honestly like I think my relationship I was just I was so like locked in like we were

just like we were just all just hanging out with our person like it was just it was so nice like the beach was smooth like everyone was having a good time and like I'm even watching this back and I didn't even know half the things in Dale and Cat was going on because in my eyes I thought they were super solid so I'm like watching everything like priest and Brian I thought they were good for a moment until like this week right before this week I was like what is have what's actually going on here so like it was very weird for me seeing it back that all these people were you know having all these issues and problems and i think the people aren't being shown is we're just we were vibed we were having a good time like is we were like on vacation

almost and uh just actually just trying to fall in love i think that's what it was uh that's where i was trying to find out good i don't do that yeah did you vote for brian to go home i didn't that's also i didn't that's because i had me and brian had a heart to heart i was like man you're focus on the wrong things. You need to focus on your girl. She's right here. Like, you guys have a good thing going. Like, this is all the thing that matters. And I was like, and then also Alex was like, hey, I don't, I want to have integrity with this thing. I don't want to vote people out because of, you know, this, this or that. Like, I believe that Brian and Prey's have a good relationship stronger than what the Golden's had. And I was like,

all right, if that's how we're going to vote, then I'm voting when you want to vote. Like, she led team captain on that one. In the preview for the next, I don't know if it's next episode or like the next coming episodes, it seems like people get a little irritated with Sean. What's your take on Sean? I mean, I'm going to tell you guys, that is, that, that is where shit goes. Wow. It's crazy. It's the most insane. Sean, Sean might be the greatest Bachelor in Paradise villain level. Oh my God. Whoa. Are you friends with Sean? It was unexpected. It was unexpected. I didn't see. Do you fuck with Sean? I don't have a problem with Sean. I don't have a problem with anyone. Like, I don't have a problem with anyone. But do you fuck with Sean? Would you invite him to Chicago for like a guy's weekend to stay at your place? I wouldn't invite him. But if he's in Chicago, I would hang out with him. Like if we're in the same, like, I wouldn't have a problem like hanging out. If he reached out to you and said I'm here, you would get meet him for a beer. Oh yeah. I'll grab a beer or whatever the case. I wouldn't like shun him. No. Like the first time I met him was a couple of seasons ago.

He, a couple of years ago, it was, um, Nate's birthday and it was me, Rodney. It was a bunch of black people. Nate, tall Nate? You know how Sean looks super like fratty and like, like, white guy? It was hilarious. Sean's like the waspiest white guy ever. Yeah. Oh, no, like textbook like white guy.

Like that's him. But not, he was, he was chill. But like him on the season compared to that is like night and then. Did he pronounce? alicia's name wrong when giving her the rose or is it pronounced alicia it's alicia i think it is alicia she looks like someone who would go no it's alicia it's kind of giving beldasha i think she's like she's got she's mixed race i think she's i forget what it is but yeah she's got some Andrew how are your how is your french coming along um are we still taking

lesson it's uh it's not good but um i mean you're working problem I like to practice all I just don't think I'm retaining it as well as I should. Was the the game, the challenge, whatever that was, Jesse explaining the rules,

was it as confusing as it was for us to watch it? Because it felt very much like him trying to explain like a card game that he made up with his friends. When Jesse's explaining the rules, I'm just like, just let's just play the game. Let me just see a test run. Let's just play around.

I don't know what the fuck's going on. I still don't know what was going on. Yeah, it was No, it wasn't bad Like you just like You write down the answers And if you match with like someone There was like there was like

A B and C So sometimes like what was the point of the whole Circular thing with head It just seemed Can we just do that all at the pool? Like I just Well like a lot of us went into the circle Like you don't see like there was like

You had like five matches And I went in to see if I wanted to do a Cipermonde And I just was like But knowing you guys, you guys are all afraid of looking like villains. Everyone's like, no, I don't want a rendezvous at this point. Oh, fuck that. No, I just, I don't think, well, I, I'm not even kidding you. I didn't, I wasn't really interested in many other people besides Bailey and Alex.

You know what I mean? Like, most, more than anything, I was more interested in Alex. I just didn't know what she was interested in me. But, yeah, that was just kind of like how it went. How sad were you that you couldn't do this experience with Justin? I think I wouldn't have found someone, at the time if Justin was there because I feel like we'd be broing out a little bit more and you know just trying to hang out and I'm trying to you know make sure he's all right with Susie and everything so you guys kind of cock block each other you say was that say yeah in a way I just feel like you would just been like you'd have been more like go with what was comfortable like no one I wasn't friends with anyone there pulling each other's dicks just goofing around boys I ran in a dale at events like a couple times but we weren't like friends right you know so um I just had to like I just lived I literally hung out with Alex and we just came close.

Speaking to Dale, when Dale thinks you did something wrong, he really has a way of like, so I just know someone was like, good character wouldn't do something like that. But hey, like, you know, do you do you? Like he has a, like, I kind of love it. It was kind of an art. It's real, it's real, like, judgey. No, Dale has like a, like a,

Dale reminds me of Homeland a little bit. Like he has this like superhero presence to him. He wants to do great things. And then boom, you're like, oh, whoa, where'd that come from, Dale? And, like, you get surprised by, like, some of the things that happened. But you'll see Dale, Dale becomes homelander at some point. Have you, did you talk to Jeremy at all while he was in Portugal visiting Bailey? Yeah.

I talked to Jeremy recently. And I was just like, you know, I like send him some of the things people say to, just to like, break it up, make him, like, laugh a little bit. Like, hey, listen. just laugh at the pain at the end of the day like it's it's gonna pass yeah i saw i saw that he was up in people's comments arguing with them in the comments i have i mean i wouldn't do all that for for a cool kilcumber he's not he's pretty he's pretty rattled like he's arguing with fans yeah i mean it's it's such a tough thing to navigate you just like especially if you're new to it like obviously you know being in this for five years like you've had as much cake meal as you

possibly have you understand like you're never going to win what made you want to dabble back in i was single at a time and i was just like this is perfect timing this is like my last go if i'm if there's ever going to be an opportunity i don't know how long this show is going to be running um it just like stars kind of aligned for me i were just like let's do it could could could you could be with with alex right now that'd be great do you have a girlfriend could i are you alex right now yeah am i in love this is crazy what we're doing you know i'm Listen, I'm allowed to ask. I don't know.

Like, hey, I possibly could. Possibly could. I've never met Alex in person. Maybe you can introduce us at a wedding or something. Yeah. You do. Maybe. There's a dull meeting in there somewhere.

There was a little bit of that. Do you remember the last time we saw you in person? Yeah, the Hulu event. Yeah, when you scared River. Oh, I know. Baby River. I'm sorry. But I was super excited.

I was like, oh my God. You screamed. You were like, ah! And she was like, startled. with you screaming in her face and started crying. But then y'all made up. I was super sweet. I just haven't seen her. I don't think that was the first time I've seen her in person.

It was. So I was just like super excited, you know, to take the Instagram pictures and put them in person. It's very exciting feeling. I know. We're excited for you and Alex to have a baby soon. You guys are really pushing the envelope. I love that. Maybe we'll see a little bit more love story from us on the show.

Yeah, we'd love to see it. play out. We're kind of background people, unless it's about me talking about Broca. I mean, that is a really nice apartment you have. Does a half a million dollars go a long way or what's up? Half a million.

Oh, because you want. Because he won. That is, like exposed beams and then industrial. There's nice exposed brick in here. Wow. Wow. Wow. That is a nice player. Yeah.

I do. I do. I do all right. I got, you know, I got a vision a little bit. This is my favorite painting. Yeah. Gorgeous. Anything else while you're here, Andrew, I know you have to get going that you want to share, talk about, unpacked. You said you were ready to talk shit. Like what, the thing that you text me yesterday, did we get that out?

Does that what we, did we talk about whatever? I mean, I think the way your questions went, it just kind of like, it kind of like switched it. So I was just like, oh, well, you guys made me feel more calm about, like, just the way you answered those questions. I was just like, okay. Because I was, I was heated yesterday. Oh, my God. I was like watching it back. I'm like, this is not how the tonality of it, like the conversation that went with me and Brian and Spencer, I was just like, and like the fact that they got me saying brocode, I like hate myself for that because, yeah, it's like a brocode in a way. It's just, it's more so like an honor thing.

Like you can't go behind some, some other man's back who you, who you spend a lot of time with, you hang out with and then like do that to him. I just think that was just kind of shallow. He should have told, he should have, he should have told Jeremy to deal with his. shit that's what Jeremy was sleeping so yeah talk to Jeremy yeah that's true no but I mean like he had ample amount of time to tell Jeremy that like hey you should do this um I just felt like it was just out of place and it was um it was random uh it was like it's calculated maybe he also is a very short fuse with parisa yes and no one talks about that but hey I I call him out for it and no one no one I guess was it as bad not as bad or worse in in real time the

way he talked to Prisa. It was as bad. One thousand percent. Like as bad for sure. Yeah. Okay. That's right. Andrew, it's always good talking to you, buddy. Thanks for coming, man. Yeah, always. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, as a pleasure. You're always happy to be had. Well, I'll be here. I'll be in

LA next week. Oh. Let's hit up Jones. Yeah, that's good a guy, man. Ever since you took me there, man, it's like my favorite place. Well, if there's a lot of drama next week and you want to come in into the studio and unpack it, just let us know. Hey, if there is, for sure, I'll do it. I'm down. All right, pop-off.

Back-to-back episodes. All right, Andrew. Always good to be with you, man. Do you want to plug anything? Oh, no. I'm all good. All right. Plugged out.

I'm all good. Go follow Greg Groop on Instagram and TikTok. Wow. Watch Bachelor of Paradise on Monday nights. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's going to go well for me. So maybe the following Monday, watch. All right, Broca.

Yeah. All right, Andrew, have a good day. All right, buddy. Talk to you later. Bye, guys. Good, have doing. Bye. Anything else we want to unpack on Bachelor in Paradise?

No, I'm just, I'm really enjoying this as this, every episode that comes out, I really am enjoying it more and more. I was just like all of the drama, all the episode. It was just so good. There is so much B-roll still. I mean, like, Nick and I are fast-forwarding through the B-roll. Yeah. Okay, we get it.

Waves are crashing. You did get, you have one golden cup left, so that's less fast-wording for you. Yeah. We've got Keith and Kathy. Again, it's just I, we get the platitudes. It's never too late. I understand. It's kind of sad, though, that they were like, let's send him home.

He's over here with his like EGC or whatever, like machine. Go home, dude. Go home. No, he's fighting through it. Go love. Why send him home? He's like, I got this. I got this thing, this mobile thing.

I can walk around. We can do challenges. It's monitoring my heart. everything's good. But they're like, we'll just send him home because he's got that thing. Not on our watch. You don't need him the captain dying with like 95% humidity down there. But they didn't send him home because of that.

They kept doing like, the Golden's connections aren't that strong. And they're like they're over here like making out in every corner. Also humidity, a lot of the times with people like the reason older people moved to Florida is like the humidity, like the air quality when you're lower to sea level is like better and it's easier to breathe. is like if you have like um breathing problems okay so we should have kept him down there yeah if anything it's dangerous to send him away yeah we've become ages watching bachelor in paradise i think it's a privilege i could never yeah i think it's so cute yeah i want to get old it's gonna be awesome yeah i just because it's there's no drama yeah and then we've got bryan and parisa where it's just like are they a real couple are they not i don't know perisa's in a

real relationship brian's like fuck you again the only time he's showed parisa like any sort of pda's when he felt like he was isolated from the rest of the group and all he had was parisa i know i felt so bad for her when she was like look at these challenges just bringing us closer and i was like he's using you right now he has no one else for a ticket to stay and no one else is coming just think about all the women in real life and relationships like that my heart breaks you know there's a lot i know well we talk it to them often every monday on ask Nick. Yeah, you do.

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Nick gives really good advice, you guys. Thank you, Mary. Definitely. I think that will wrap up this episode. We will see you tomorrow. Don't forget, we do have a bonus reality recap episode for you tomorrow. Do not miss out on it. Brian joins us tomorrow with Freddie and Lisa.

It's a jam-packed episode tomorrow. And then on Thursday, we have Sandy from Perfect Match in studio. She returns, and she is coming in hot. Wasn't it kind of crazy that Louis was the only guy who told the truth? yep but even then none of these men were coming if a d wasn't there none of these men would have come forward with anything yes that was a pact to the end all right well get into a lot of perfect match tomorrow we'll see you then bye bye