The Viall Files - E99 Property Brother Drew Scott and Linda Phan on Love and Work

Episode Date: February 26, 2020

Property Brother Drew Scott and his wife Linda join us to talk about working with your spouse. Nick and Drew trade thoughts on Dancing with the Stars, Drew and Linda share the story of how they met, and we discuss what to do when a sibling dates someone we don’t like. “Where’d you get that water?” Get your ViFi merch at http://shop.viallfiles.com. Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: BETTERHELP: betterhelp.com/viall ETTITUDE: text FILES To 64-000 HELIX SLEEP: https://helixsleep.com/viall See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I've had too much coffee this morning. Mr. Drew Scott and his adorable and loving, charming wife, Linda, join us on the episode.

You might know him from the Property Brothers. You might know him from the Property Brothers. These guys are a big deal. My mom has never been more excited about anything I've ever done. They're such a fascinating pair for so many reasons. But it was really fun getting to know Drew and his wife.

And he's talking about their life, their business. They're very impressive people, very interesting and very charming. And certainly when you meet them, there's no secret and surprise of the success that they've, they've had. Yeah. Truly fascinating. Do you ever want to work like with your wife? That's the thing.

And we talk a little bit about that. They, you know, Linda and Drew are, you know, obviously married and they, they work together and, you know,

they're, she's part of the kind of the family business and they're doing more and more projects together it's a challenge to work with your significant other i don't know sometimes you need some free time yeah um but we talk about a little a little bit about that and how it works for them and some things they do and just a fun conversation with them and i really enjoyed them taking the time so i think you will enjoy that didn't something happen like in the crystal and oh the first bachelor divorce divorce well it's not officially divorced it's just a separation right now oh it is it they're not divorced have they talking about

crystal have they left the door open for uh a rekindling it kind of sounded like that from crystal's instagram but he moved away what's what are your thoughts on it i don't i mean i don't know them uh at all you don't know them at all no i mean i've met him a few times but i don't i don't know them well enough to have an opinion about their relationship yeah they're doing a conscious separation what the hell is that in quotes i think it's similar to what um they broke up like a goop thing they're getting divorced you think yeah what it is is the first step to a divorce chris is moving to florida and she's still in san diego okay so they're getting divorced uh it's the only it's the first

uh up until this point they had this track record of a lot of failed engagements yeah but no no separation after after marriage and yeah they broke the uh they broke the seal do you think now that they've broken the seal more couples will do it uh no i mean listen i i don't know again chris and crystal it seemed to be um rushed if you will okay uh they're yeah um quite honestly it's kind of fascinating i mean like jade and tanner were like the last couple to you know get engaged and get married that quickly yeah which was at the time seemed like kind of an insane thing obviously they've seemed to be doing great and working out and um but you at the time seemed like kind of an insane thing obviously they've seemed to be doing great and working out and um but you at the time were like wow this seems fast you knew that i think they were like okay looking back you asked them they were kind of like wow you know they're probably surprised it's worked out as well as it has i mean they clearly loved each other but in that world

it all happened so fast is it because of the bachelor they have to get ready that fast because they want to film it they probably had't have to. They probably had an opportunity, you know, they were probably presented, they had this, it was like the 20, big 20 year season with Bette and they wanted to do something big and they wanted to have a wedding. So it's like,

I think they gave Jade and Tanner like the opportunity to do this. And I think they kind of said, let's do it. And I mean, listen, it was a great wedding and they have a great relationship

and they're dear friends. But my guess is at the time they were like, wow, this is kind of insane. They're just kind of going with it. Right. And so, yeah, I guess bummer for, for Groose and Crystal. I wish them the best conscious breakup. Conscious separation. I don't know what that means.

It's what we do now. Because what? When you, before you had a separation and you were unaware? I guess it's just like they're trying to do it in a very intentional, loving way instead of like a spiteful.

Yeah, my guess is it's probably like any other breakup. And there's a lot of resentment on one end. Yeah, I hope not.

Listen, that's okay. I mean, life happens. Yeah. Anyways, we wish them the very best. Yeah. I hope not. Listen, that's okay. I mean, life happens. Yeah. Anyways, we wish them the very best. Yes.

And I hope that they're, that this is the best decision for both of them and in a good six to 12 months, I hope they look back and think whatever decisions they made, that they're better off for it.

Yeah. Should we get to Drew and Linda? Yeah. Great. Well, guys, thanks for listening. I hope you enjoy it don't forget to send your questions at ask nick at cast me.com cast with a k i really hope you enjoy this episode next week we have the lady gang joining us uh what a fun and lovely bunch of women though i laughed so hard um and then also you know don't forget to join us on Mondays for Ask Nick. Anything else while we're at it? No.

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Drew and Linda Scott, thank you for joining. Thanks for having us. Thank you so much. I forgot to tell you, I go by Linda's last name. So it's Linda and Drew Pham. Very 2020 of you. I go by Drew's middle name, Alfred. I don't tell people that.

I was Batman's butler. Drew from the Property Brothers. We figured we'd only have the good-looking brother come. Oh. You know. I knew you were my favorite. Yeah. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Yeah. We actually find it was funny. We did like People Magazine just had us on the cover. And I always make fun that Jonathan and I together make one like sexiest person when they have us on the sexiest list because on my own, I can't do that. So they'll use like his smile or his hair. They'll use like my ass. Just kind of combine it together.

And your thumb. Jonathan wanted to come on, but it's like we only allow really handsome people on. So then we asked Linda to join us. Yeah. And I'm just her side piece. Yeah, and I'm just her side piece. I wanted to get to know Linda more because I feel like you try to take all the attention from this loving couple.

Every single day. Everyone wants to know more about the better half of the half of the Property Brothers. No one cares about me. I'm leaving. I'm the lower half. I hold them on my shoulders. You're the sexier half uh but thanks

for coming guys it's uh i'm really excited to have you and uh you know chat a little bit you guys are you're so busy uh we were talking a little bit before about all the things uh you and jonathan have coming on and then you and linda have your podcast out so thanks for taking the time of course i mean we we love just sitting down and and chatting with awesome peeps and we kind of see each other in passing all the time random places like it was it the comedy club comedy club um where um i attempted a pitiful stand-up oh i'm sure it was no better than ours i mean i just heard we were no better than yours we were sad mine did not go particularly well i don't think it was supposed to go well that's what i told him exactly yeah that's the fun of it i didn't like one of my ear pieces didn't work so that i'm doing this the whole

time you know like trying to lean in thinking i'm gonna hear it better and then the one then you literally look like you have tourettes on on stage. And so I tried repeating it, but it was a lot of fun. So we talked there and then we ran into each other. Dancing with the Stars. Dancing with the Stars. You said I was your favorite dancer, right? I think that's what I remember hearing. I will say I did.

I attended the episode where you and Jonathan came out together. Oh, right. That was fun. And I got to say, I out together. Oh, right. That was fun. And I got to say, I was impressed. Oh, thank you. No bullshit is that I remember when I was on it, I wish I could do it again because I got so nervous. And you guys are so good at just having fun

with whatever it is you're doing. And I remember watching it and I thought to myself, these guys are having fun. You know, it's funny for, I was a little nervous the first time I went up, but I don't typically get nervous. I mean, I've done a lot in front of, you know, people before on stage and stuff like that. But dancing is a new thing that was a new thing to me. And I had never done any dancing before.

I did like one like drop in hip hop class. And so I was getting into the groove. I was getting a little more coordinated, but I was still a tall, skinny guy, tall white guy dancing. And I was not as coordinated as Jordan Fisher and Lindsey Stirling. But then I said to Jonathan, they're really interested in having you on the show, want to come do a dance. And I taught him or my partner Emma taught him the first however many steps. And Jonathan was super nervous. And we did it really slow so he could get it. And he's like, I don't know if I can handle all these moves. And Emma was like, that's only the first quarter of what you're going to be doing and you'll be doing it three times faster. And so when he got out there, he crushed it. And then at the very end, you know, they do the recap

and they bring all the best dances. They want them done again. And so Jonathan thought this hell was over. He didn't have to do it again. And then I'm like, oh, the producers want to bring you back. Did he have more fun the second time? He did. He definitely did because it was already sort of in have to do it again and then i'm like oh the producers want to bring you back did he have more fun the second time yeah he did he definitely did because it was already sort of in the system of it but you know we memorized very fast i mean it's just we've always been good at that it's the the flair that the finishing moves that you know the tilt of the wrist and

whatever i sucked at that so in the end i look very stilted but i knew every move yeah i thought it was really great you looked good when you were out there. I did okay. I think I did. I think I had the benefit of, and maybe you felt the same way, is people don't expect a lot from white guys. If you're over 6'2", they don't expect that. Right.

That's very low expectations. Done enough. And so I'm a decent enough dancer where it was like oh he's not awful and so i think i i beat expectations there the judges have it out for you like lynn had it out for me they were okay with me i definitely knew i wasn't one of their favorites and they knew I wanted to do well and they knew I was nervous and they smelled blood. They smell your fear. Julianne was kind to me

and Bruno loved me. I mean, Bruno, I think. You were sexy. If I go now and I see Bruno, I'm usually in the front row and between commercial break, we'll blow each other kisses. Well, I'm glad you the front row. And between commercial break, we'll blow each other kisses. Well, I'm glad you finished that sentence.

Kisses. Nick. Kisses. Love your dance. Actually, I will say I loved Bruno when I was there too because they all have their characters they need to play. All the judges. We didn't have Julianne.

I think she came once as a guest. But Bruno actually came off camera at one point and he gave me uh just a bit of advice about loosening up a little bit and uh just enjoying the experience it'll come through a little more and i'm very analytical and so it's funny in the first bunch of dances you really see in my face like i'm making this resting bitch face we were the same yeah and uh i anyway so i loosened up a little bit it got better but they had a thing for frankie muniz like he and he's an awesome guy but there was one dance i remember my partner and i were watching and frankie i can't remember if it was he fell or

he just stopped on stage they totally forgot he even admitted he totally forgot everything but they still gave him two of them gave him tens i'm like what do i have to do to get a 10 because i've been crushing it i thought and then i looks. I'm like, what do I have to do to get a 10? Because I've been crushing it, I thought. And then I look back afterwards. I'm like, no, I still look like a tall white guy. Doing a long division in your head. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I struggled with that too.

I'm analytical. And yes, it was very much, I could just, I couldn't just dance. I was thinking about the steps. But Linda learned everything while I was dancing too. Did you make him? I tried to learn everything. But yeah, I made him practice whenever he was not with emma it was tough like like we were filming three of my shows at the same time one in uh in la and then two in toronto so what i would have to do is emma was on the road with me and then and then we had our book tour that

we were doing for part of the show too so we were so freaking busy i would fly in do the live show and then i would red eye right after the flight out again so i was only getting for about that 11 weeks i was getting about four to five hours sleep filming all day dancing four to five hours a day i lost 34 pounds whoa it was scary he was disappearing that's not good on set i was i was so exhausted i couldn't even stand up Like they had, one of our PAs had a chair. And so we're walking around like doing a house tour. I'm like, oh, look at this kitchen. We could do this. We could do that.

And then like, okay, cut. And then I literally would collapse into the chair. I had no energy at all. Oh my gosh. If I wasn't doing anything else, I would come back for like the all-star version. But if I was filming anything else, I wouldn't want to do it. Do you ever get jealous of him like dancing with Emma? No.

I don't know how that feels. No. Honestly, the Dancing with the Stars family is really a family. And there was never any hesitation there. I was just so excited for him to dance and have so much fun. And Drew was talking about never being nervous or not really ever being nervous. And I wanted him to be nervous because it's such a huge thing.

You don't get nervous? He hardly... Not a lot. Every now and then, like if it's the first time, I remember the very first dance on Dance with the Stars, it's the first time I've ever danced like a full routine and so I was a little nervous.

So when you are nervous, I get really excited for you because it means you're doing something. It means I'm human. Yeah. She sees human emotion in me. Why are you not nervous? I'm not dating a sociopath.

Married to one. Okay, good. But you know, when I first applied for the show, Dancing with the Stars wanted both Jonathan and me to come on the show. And they kept asking us for like six seasons or something like that. And one, Jonathan, they were like, well, we both shouldn't do it because we're dividing our audience. They're going to either go for you or me.

So just one of them. So analytical. But anyway um i was the one who had more availability to do it there and but my one concern linda and i were about to get married um just shortly after the show and my thought is i'm like is this one of those shows where the producers try to create drama oh is drew sleeping with his dancer or whatever else and i'm like linda and i are not even sleeping they're dancing no we're dancing yeah but we're not dramatic people like We're so chill.

And that was my big concern. But it turns out they are amazing, the producers. They literally want everyone who's there to have the best experience. And they even were asking, who would you want to dance with? Emma was our favorite because we've watched the show for years. And she's so funny and just down to earth. And her now husband was one of the dancers too, Sasha. So I got...

He gave me tips because he was in the troupe at that time. He didn't have his own partner. And then, so I got his perspective. I got hers. And so it was actually pretty great. And they actually choreographed our first dance. Oh, for our wedding. So that's why we did it.

I only did the show because I'm like, I want to do this if it's going to teach me how to dance for my first dance. Cute. And it did. And we went all out. We did a mashup of five songs. So we did like some Charleston.

We did the song Sing, Sing, Sing. We did um pony by by genuine um happy yeah so it was it was epic yeah that's great yeah they are they're a great family and they're really it's it's fun when i when i did it um it was right after obviously a few scenes of the bachelor and so certainly yeah technically it's reality tv but you know some of the the dancers you know there are a few times where you know they might ask an annoying question or two and with dancing with the stars you're getting a lot of celebrities who aren't used to reality tv and i would just be like this is nothing compared to like what they're asking or what they're pushing

or you know the frustration like producing but it's a really manipulation of the bachelor it's different they might yeah the bachelor pushes you a little bit more where i'm just like what a lovely group of people you know like they're so nice and chill and kind i mean i love my bachelor people but they're it's a different show yeah they're plotting your demise behind your back a little bit so i just they're gonna bring you to the point where your life might be ruined and then not ruin it. So kind. Yeah, they're lovely.

So you guys, we talk a lot about relationships on here. How long have you guys been together? Since 2010? Yes. No, 2010. We met. So we met late 2010.

It was during Fashion Week. I'll tell you the truth, then she'll lie about how this is how it went. Is it a cute meet cute? It's a meet cute. Yeah. Honestly, same. It's a classic romantic comedy thing where... Yeah, but grammatically doesn't...

I'm totally with you. I didn't even know that was a thing. I thought you messed up. I learned it on the movie The Holiday. Oh, really? Yeah. You know when you drop the papers and you both reach down to pick it up and you touch hands and you lock eyes?

They call it a meet cute. I totally get it. It makes no sense. Why don't they just say, hey, you met in a cute way? Yes. Well, we met in a sexy way. Here it comes. So meet sex.

No, that doesn't work. That sounds like something different. That sounds like a fetish. How'd you meet sex? So So meet sex. No, that doesn't work. That sounds like something different. That sounds like a fetish. How'd you meet sex? So we meet sex. It was during Fashion Week. We were in Toronto. So we were out there filming.

So this is before our shows had sort of taken off. And we were asked to be the celebrity models at this fashion event. And so Jonathan and I came and did that. I'm getting emotional over this uh and then Linda was asked by the DJ was what was her best friend so I asked her to come and help out at the event so I saw her backstage at the event and I'm like wow she's beautiful she's talking to some people and you could see her fun energy and I'm like I need to think of a way to get in there and talk to this girl and so I was just standing I was eating a piece of pizza and she was holding a bottle of water and so i just my big pickup line was where'd you get that water and i was like oh my gosh that's

the smoothest thing i've ever heard i was so smooth her response was where'd you get that pizza and then we had sex no i'm just joking uh no so we just hit it off and we just started chatting over pizza and water and uh and she was telling us where to go in the city for sushi. And I love volleyball. There's beach volleyball. There's a chocolate place that was downtown. So our first date was actually we went to this hot chocolate place and then sushi. And then she was supposed to split off for her best friend's birthday.

Birthday party at a karaoke bar. And I was like, all right, see you. Have a good night. And he's like, oh, yeah, I'll come too. I invited myself along. I was like, you weren't invited ya, have a good night. And he's like, oh yeah, I'll come too. I invited myself along. I was like, you weren't invited. See, in my mind,

I crush it at karaoke. And so I said, if I can get in a room with her for karaoke, she's melting in my hands. What song did you sing? I sang, I'm on a boat.

You know the song? Yeah. By Lonely Island. Lonely Island. Lonely Island? It's not an appropriate song to sing in front of your parents

but it was the first time I'd ever tried it and the funny thing is her friend he got so drunk he went to the wrong karaoke place so it ended up

just being Linda and me for an hour on her own and I'm like I'm in there I got this and we sang Summer Nights when I do the Olivia

I did the Olivia Newton-John Disney songs. Oh, yeah. Wow. I know I read or listened to somewhere or heard that you weren't always super confident and charming with girls, but you studied up and then became quite the pickup artist. Quite the annoying person. Yeah.

So Jonathan, whenever he tells that story, he makes it sound like I was the biggest douchebag you've ever seen. And I became very confident, but I never liked hitting. And actually, that was the biggest thing I learned. You didn't like hitting chicks? Hitting on, hitting on. But the thing I learned when I was reading up on it, and again, I'm very analytical. What did you read? I can't remember the exact books, but I read like anything I could find or articles or things I would read read and um anyway the biggest thing i learned is you don't hit on someone so whenever a guy goes to hit on a girl automatically their defense goes up and so the the biggest thing is like the water line it's not very threatening

to go up and say to somebody where'd you get that water oh and then you get into conversation so that's that's really what i learned just be yourself more have fun and i was so bad when i was younger like the moment i would try and talk to a girl i i was i probably looked so well i would try but i would be so stilted and awkward that they probably like this guy is a psycho and then they would run away murder me and then what was it that you got made fun of that inspired you to want to build up that confidence or did you just know no and you know the funny thing is growing up too this in our high school days jonathan and our best friend pedro they were overconfident like they literally they were a numbers game thing to them when they were

younger they would just go and flirt with everybody hi hi hi hi hi and slap slap slap anyway um no that was when they hit on a girl they slap him yeah you know this happens i'm gonna slap you yeah years ago years ago no the girl slaps jonathan oh yeah oh yeah he says hi and they get slapped he moves on yeah i was like what are you thinking no but the way you told it we were i was thinking butt slaps no oh no no no we never did that jonathan got slapped we were never jerks pedro and jonathan got slapped um, but we would, so they would be out there doing that. And I was always embarrassed. And I always used to play off that, you know, oh, no, it's rude to hit on a girl or to flirt with them.

But that was my insecurity talking that I just wasn't good at it. And no, but our friends were fine. They just didn't bug me about it. They just would go off and do their own thing. And then I realized, I'm like, I don't want to be the 40-year-old virgin. I want to actually meet somebody. And so that's why i tried to improve myself a little bit and then i got very confident with it and and then jonathan got jealous and well there were a couple of times where there's somebody he was like dibs or or he wants to go and talk to somebody and i'm

like well how about we just have conversation with whoever it is and if they seem to like you then great and several times they started talking to me more and he was getting so mad the guys do that they'll let's see a group of girls and call dibs and i find that so annoying and that's the thing is i'm sure i'm sure on the girls side too i'm sure sometimes you know girls will be like oh i like that guy well i'm gonna be the one to talk to him and it's the dibs in their own right but to me it's kind of dumb i'm like why don't we all just have good conversation to be ourselves and see who gravitates towards who? It is dumb because how do you even know? I mean, I'll admit I have done that

and said that when you're younger. One time I remember I saw this group of girls and I'm like dibs. My buddy goes, all of them? Like I just said, like, and I mean, I was just saying it out loud, but you're right. Like, how do we even know? And people, friends will do that sometimes.

But like, I decided I like him. And then all of a sudden this group will start talking. There's clearly a connection with two other people. You're like, but I said I liked them. I'm like, you didn't even know who they were. And then friends will fight over like this random. No, we had a written rule. And we have one friend in our group and I wanted to strangle him.

It was so annoying. He literally would always call dibs. As soon as he's in somewhere, he would find the cutest girls and dib, dib, dib. And we're like, why are you doing that? And then he also, he would say to all of us all the time, you know, guys, I'm the best looking guy in this group. I just got to be honest. I'm the best looking guy, so I should get first dibs.

Was he kidding or serious? No. gotta i gotta be honest i'm i'm the best looking guy so i should get first dibs i'm like was he kidding or serious no he in his mind i think he thought if he said it out loud it would become true and so it was just annoying to us and so we uh we said okay first off shut up you sound like an idiot and secondly every time you call dibs then you try to talk someone and it doesn't work out and then you get mad when somebody else talks to them so no more dibs yeah we cut dibs in our group i had a we had a friend like that in our early 20s and he he was a bit of romantic too so it it didn't come from a place of confidence it came from a place of like i think i really like her and it'd always be this very earnest but he's ultimately calling dibs and he didn't know her. And he certainly had no idea if she had any interest in him.

Meanwhile, she would inevitably like have an interest in another guy in the group. And then he would always get mad at us being like, Pro code. Pro code, man. I called dibs. I'm like, you didn't even know who she was. And why are you mad at me? That like, it happened all the time.

And so that's one of the things that always bugs me too is you know you you'll find somebody who says no we connect really well it's not but in reality they're calling dibs on a physical attraction so you literally have no idea you don't know their personality you don't know anything else you don't know if there's going to be anything more than just that physical attraction so to base a whole relationship just on that and think that that's where things should start from than just that physical attraction. So to base a whole relationship just on that and think that that's where things should start from, I always didn't like. I like to get to know someone first

because I find someone would be more, they become more attractive once you get to connect via their personality. When I started to see Linda across the room, I started talking to people, I was already seeing her personality before we even spoke. And that's what I started stalking. That's a nice

way of saying he you know was talking and then i followed her home actually she let us drive her home we jonathan i drove her sister home no so you oh yeah thank you that's my next question so you he hits on you he crashes your karaoke party at what point do you realize here's this tall guy he has this identical twin, also he's renovating houses. What was that like to be kind of inundated to his very obviously large world and crazy world? Well, at that point, the world wasn't as crazy.

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was Jonathan there with you? No. When we first met Jonathan. Yeah. So we were both there and it was Linda and her sister had come. So they were fashion police at the event. So she was giving tickets to people for bad fashion. Very serious job. No, it's just like a fun goofy thing but we so jonathan i met her and her sister

pretty much at the same time um and then we let them drive us home and i remember specifically saying to my sister i'm so glad we were not murdered i don't know why we just did that let two strangers drive they seem nice and char knows them so they must be good guys but that was the so our in the like our show hadn't taken off yet. So we had just been filming season one. Okay. I think the show might have. It was a pilot season, I think.

Oh, was it? So maybe it hadn't even started airing at that point. So you're just like two guys being like, yeah, we're filming this show. And you're being like, yeah, I've heard that story before. Exactly. No, but you said you like volleyball and. Yes. I was talking about all these non-threatening things that would get good conversation going and she wouldn't put up a defensive wall and anyway we laughed over like

what made her connect more with me than my brother because we kind of all met at the same time what made uh you know me attracted to her and not her sister that was there and then i was i thought too what if jonathan and her sister started dating and there you go that's probably good that they did in that might be too much no yeah that would be it would have been way too much oh yeah trust me so you you guys have been together pretty much the entire time you guys have been you know past decade blowing up and you've been part of the whole journey if you will yeah it's it's been fun and it's been the fastest decade ever. It literally flies by. Figure out a way to slow down time.

Yeah. We are workaholics. We like what we do. When you look at our type of shows, we do 45 episodes that we host a year just for our shows. But then we also produce a bunch of other talent on the network and other shows in different genres. But for us hosting, it takes up a lot of a lot of time and um it's it's crazy like our we'll go i'll look at my schedule and we literally don't have a day off because when we're shooting one of the shows will be during the week and then we'll be doing

press on a weekend or we'll be doing appearance or we'll be doing a commercial shoot there's always something or we're doing our scott living like our furniture collection uh an appearance for that or something and so what what we've, the last year, we've really been honing in on the fact that we need to enjoy the journey. And we do. We've had a lot of fun over the years, but we need to get more downtime

where literally we could sit at home and do nothing if we wanted to. And it actually is feeling a lot better and it's been helping Linda and me connect. That's also why we started the podcast. We thought the podcast is a way to force- So that we could do more work. Yeah, do more work.

Yeah. No, it's a way to force ourselves to just sit down and chat and have good conversations. I mean, that's fantastic. What are some of the things that you have? I mean, have you ever, Linda, throughout this process, like, have there been challenges where you've just like enough's enough or you get frustrated? I mean, what is it like to date a twin and all twins always talk about the connection and people are fascinated with twins and we have like do you ever

feel like you're fighting with that kind of bond that they have and is that something you have to adjust to no because for the first five years of our relationship we the three of us lived together on the road so wherever we were filming property brothers it was true jonathan and me and it was it was fun like we were used to him third wheeling us oh everything literally we have pictures of us on like a movie date and he was sitting like next to us or we're out for ice cream and he's behind us but um yeah i mean our family's always been close her family is really close and so it just kind of it made sense for us instead of, you know, us getting a condo when we're filming somewhere for a couple of months and Jonathan doing the same, we would just get a big house and kind of all be together.

And, um, yeah, I mean, we like that, but at some point too, obviously you want more of your own time is same Jonathan's dating and they want their own time. And, um, we sort of Linda and I start to go out now off on our own adventures. And it's exciting. So it's not taking, we talk, the twin dynamic is very true, like what you're saying. Like twins have this connection unlike anyone else. And we'll always have that. But this has created a new connection for me, which has been really exciting to see that flourish. Yeah.

With the third wheel, I take great pride in being a great third or even fifth wheel. Do you, did you like look out for like look out for Jonathan? You guys have this relationship. I know he's in a relationship now, but you guys have only been dating each other. And I'm assuming he's dated a variety of people over the decade where it's just, are you guys, now that you have the stability in your relationship, where is this like trying to get Jonathan to find his kind of perfect match that you have the stability in your relationship. Whereas it's like trying to get Jonathan to find his kind of perfect match that you guys found yours. I feel that with my friends sometimes. They have an unstable relationship

and they're always like, Nick, we gotta make sure you find what we have. I mean, we've always looked out for him in a sense that if we think someone is no good, I think we've made a pact to say something. Oh, okay. How do you do that? How do you do that? It's tough. I leave it to Drew. Drew, you better tell your brother.

I'm the loud mouth. To be honest, I was always the single one, always. Before Linda, I was always single. I had one other girlfriend. I think we were together for six months, but the rest of time was just casually dating here and there. And I was so focused on work. But my older brother, I was just casually dating here and there. And I was so focused on work. But my older brother, JD, and Jonathan, they were always in and out of – they were in longer-term relationships. But it was a bad relationship and then into another one. And it was really annoying. Our older brother, without getting into the long end of it, but our older brother was in a relationship for four years.

And she was not a nice woman. She was actually a very mean, mean woman. And I remember, you know, we never saw JD again because our family was really close. But we would only see him maybe for a birthday, maybe Christmas. I'm like, mean woman. And I remember, you know, we never saw JD again because our family's really close, but we would only see him maybe for a birthday, maybe Christmas. I'm like, this sucks.

Yeah, I'm like, we're so close and we never get to see him. And it's almost like she had the voodoo spell on him because he didn't see it. He just saw this woman that he thought he loved. And anyway, the long story short,

she, I ended up telling him like, I have to tell you after four years, they were engaged. I'm like, I have to tell you, no one else is telling you no one likes your your fiancee they were engaged they were engaged at this point and they were living jonathan i had built a house um and this this house was like a miniature version of our parents ranch it was an investment property and we let her and jd live there for free we're just trying to do something nice for them and i remember you know my mom would still be coming to help like do the gardening and everything for them and stuff and she would

just be like are you done messing with my house to my mom i'm like she's my mom's in her 60s helping you for free to make your place look beautiful anyway i told you the house that's not theirs for the house is not theirs yeah and so i said to jd i was like you know um nobody else is going to tell you this and you may be mad at me never want to talk to me again but i have to tell you because i love you no one likes denise she is not a nice person i don't understand what you see in her and i think you deserve a lot better you deserve somebody who loves you as much as you love them and he didn't want to hear it he was mad at me he didn't talk to me for a few days but it was only a few days after that they were just sitting down watching tv they weren't arguing

or anything like that and out of the blue this is verbatim what he said that she said to him she just goes you know jd if your dad died i wouldn't care i mean what if you were upset i'd be upset um but i could care less if he died unprompted unprompted she literally just said that and that is in a nutshell her personality and it was at that point that he realized this is not a good person yeah and so they split and so i said to all my family after that thank god you planted that seed well yeah i said i'm gonna tell you if you're with somebody who's not great and so i've said the same in the past to jonathan for relationships and we've always wanted i mean it's the same with linda's siblings too we want to see everyone in a relationship

someone with someone they love and my family and her family they're all very giving people and they're very loving people and so now my older brother's married jd got married last halloween to an amazing woman annalee and uh jonathan is now in a relationship with somebody he's really connected with more than he's ever connected with anybody before so it's coming everyone's getting off the market linda's sister april was always a single one she's now in a relationship so you guys have set the example that is really tough though i mean i i think i've said this before but i years ago i was had a short engagement uh we did it for like a year and a

half before i got engaged and then we broke up and that's when my family was like we didn't really like her and i was like thanks for the heads up. But it's hard. And fairness to, you know, you want to not, you don't know. And if you're not kind of the nosy family or friends, and especially when it comes to friends, it's just like, I don't want to upset them. I don't want to like have them push me away. There's always that fear, you know, like even your brother JD,

it's like you knew he was going to be mad and not talk to you. But sometimes you have to like take that bullet, especially if you know it's coming from a good place. And that's exactly the biggest thing. I think for me, at least, everyone communicates in different ways and everyone receives that communication different ways. So it's an ever learning thing for me to remember. If I'm saying something to you, you're not exactly taking it the way I'm intending it to be taken. And that can be very sensitive when you're in a relationship with somebody,

or if it's a sibling or whoever. And so I always try and remember if someone's saying something to me, I know he loves me. I know my brother loves me. He may be mad at me right now, but I'm understanding why. And so I'm trying not to let things take me, hit me the wrong way. And so that's why he's the same. I think afterwards he realized it was out of a place of love that I gave him that information. It wasn't just trying to be mean. And so he appreciated that. Yeah, totally.

Because you have no fight in the game per se other than his happiness. Oh, and wanting to see my brother more. Yeah. Well, it's selfishly there, I guess. But still, there's a lot of love for him to be happy. And that is a challenge. I mean, it's tough to do.

Linda, do you, when, do you have tips for our audience people, for the people who spent a lot of time working or with their spouses? Like what are some of the things you do? Like if you guys, I'm sure you don't, but if you ever get sick of each other, like what do you guys do to have your own hobbies, you know, things like that, especially for you guys seeing so connected, not only in your personal lives, but your work lives and things like that. Yeah. And people have asked, you know, don't we get sick of each other because we spend a lot of time together, obviously personally and for work. I think the most important thing is to share each other's

interests like drew is obsessed with coins i will never be as obsessed obsessed with coins as dive into that next but but i'm happy to go to antique stores and look at other stuff and then he can get his coin fix and i'm obsessed with disney and he'll not go to Disney every single week as much as I want to. I love Disney, but not that much. But he'll go like a few times. Are you in Club 33? No, I'm not.

Because we film on the road all the time, so our only fear was you do that, and we're never here to take advantage of it. But we have friends who are. But on top of that, yes, alone time is also nice, but not for the sake of taking time away from each other, but just for ourselves.

Yeah, I mean, that's great. And it's really, really important. And I mean, it's a challenge. I give you guys a lot of credit to be able to do that. And you guys are still fighting ways to spend time together, but like change it up. I think that's pretty neat. Well, I do think, and it's because I was always,

like I said, I was always single. I was never in a long-term relationship. I remember a friend saying back in the day, so him and his wife had been married, I think, for a year or two. And I remember that there's this one moment we were all out. And they're like, hey, I just realized today it's been 764 days that we've been together every day. And we've never been apart. We've slept in the same bed. And so literally for like what two years or whatever they've been together every single day and i remember that point thinking that's hell

i was like why would you why would you want i want alone time and then now here i'm in a relationship and i realized that lynda and i have the same thing we have these long periods where we're always together so we we had come to the conclusion too it is important to have some of that time apart even though we want to be together all the time and whether that's even just going away for a couple of hours to do something or whether i had to go away for work for a couple of days you get a bit of alone time and it makes you really appreciate that time together as well and so it's always it's a learning thing for me since i'd never been in a long-term relationship and i there are things i find I'm constantly loving. We have our, our friction.

We'll have our debates over things. Like she always tries to trick me into leaving the door open when she's peeing. And I'm like, no, shut the frigging door. I want some romance left in this relationship. Is this a real thing?

Yes. Have you ever dealt with that? Wait, but would you, do all women like leaving the door open would you pee with the door open if with your significant other yes yeah what is wrong with that i mean i remember being in college with my first girlfriend and she peed and i took a lot of pride being like this doesn't bother me at the same time i was like you're only peeing, right? Because let's not get nuts.

Well, that's my whole thing. I'm like, I just, there's nothing less romantic than defecating in front of the one that you're interested in. Just say poop. No. Defecating. It's so, no. I just like, I said to Linda, I'm like, we will be married 60 years. We'll be old and shriveling.

And I'm like, go and shut that door when you pee because I still don't want to hear it. That's grumpy old Drew voice. But no, I just have no desire. I have no desire. I get it. I accept the fact. Everyone poops.

I was dating someone once, and it was like a moment. And I was like, okay. And she definitely i've dated women who it's like they really they have a thing for it and by a thing for it they like it's like they want you to know i poop and i need you to know that you love me for it started a weird fetish it's a weird it was a weird thing and i remember the bathroom door was closed and i was like knocking on her what are you doing and she And she just goes, I'm taking a shit. And just the way she said it, I was just like, oh, okay.

I mean, I get it. But like, why do you got to sound like my buddy? It was, she was like testing me. It was like, I need to know you love me even though I do. We sound like we could be friends. Okay. Why do you got to test your love that way? Do you guys want to date?

I'm just because. So here's, this is maybe. I didn't love it. No. Okay, there we go. I'm laughing because within our group of friends, I don't know, the topic of poop always comes up because it's. With your female. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's an important thing. Well, of course, we all do it except for me. I don't. I don't do that. Butterflies yeah but this is it's an important thing well of course we all do it except for me i don't i don't do that um but this is so you know like dude humor when you're like in the locker room playing sports and all that and everyone you know they're they're like you know farting in front of each other all that i've always hated that i've never been one of the like the guy guy like kind of things i always find most of those locker room things just disgusting and

gross anyway then i at one point you know know, just kind of casually dating her. There's this one girl that I met and she was like that dude, like she was that dude. And so I remember we were on like a first date kind of a thing. And then she rips one right next to me and she's like, ah, and she's cracking like one of the guys. Instantly, zero attraction ever for that. And that was the last time what we ever saw that person so for me maybe i was like scarred in some way when i was younger and then that's formed me into this stubborn person i am today that doesn't want to have any of that or doors open for peeing

as an adult it's fun that you test them though i'm i see both sides i'm more like you drew where it's just like i'm to be an adult and accept that and I understand that and I'm not going to pretend it doesn't happen but let's not shove it in my face I do it because

it bugs you yes great way to build a relationship do things to spite me that is basically a relationship what's the worst thing

so on any dates or when you were with someone for you said a year and a half i've had a handful of long yeah long-term relations it's been a while what's one what's something aside from all the poop talk that has been the most annoying thing to you in a relationship whether it was you doing it to them or them doing it to you what's something that you can see being an annoying relationship thing well i i have a bad habit i mean i have a type both physically and more specifically uh personality wise and i always seem to be attracted to someone who

is seemingly confident on the outside but not really on the inside and i have this kind of personality where i'm i can be monotone i like to talk things through and I I'm calm and I'm analytical that way and I'm dating an emotional person who emotes and so my calmness will only trigger their emotions and so they tend to be really mean and it was just like it was always something where it would just you know we'd get in a fight and it would just be something, you know, we weren't fighting. They were just being mean. So they were being mean, but it's because they felt that your monotone way of being mean to them. I would annoy the shit out of them with my like, well, let's just talk, you know.

Seriously, I think you and I are related. Yeah, you're very similar. Yeah. And I'd be like, well, we can figure it out. And then, you know, nothing makes, the only thing that makes me mad, the only thing that really gets under my skin is if I feel like you're doing it to spite me, where I don't feel like you're being productive.

I don't think you're like working with me to try to solve whatever problem we have. You're just trying to fuck with me. And that will just really get me. And then of course, those are the women I tend to be attracted to. Like, I love you. We can make this work. Is this going I tend to be attracted to. Like, I love you. We can make this work. Is this going to be-

It's so annoying, but I love you. Yeah. So that's been the big thing. I find, so this is one thing that I've said in the past, which I've learned is not a good thing to say. And because I'm very much the same way. I analyze what's happening. I can be very unemotional in a conversation. So even if it's something that's very heated what's happening i can be very unemotional in a conversation so even if it's something that's very heated or whatever i can be very unemotional and i can look at your point of view my point of view and i can be like okay i understand this is why i'm pissing you off but but that actually just makes the other side more angry totally but i've said this in the past

so i think i might have said it once to linda but i said it to my buddy before my and my brother when he is just out of just in a bad relationship. He's very upset. And I'm just like, have you tried not being upset? Oh. And that doesn't go over well. I'm like, no. But for me, the way my brain works, if I get myself all worked up over something, I literally

just like, oh, I'm upset right now. I can neutralize that. And then I can look at this with a level head. I just try not being upset. And it works. But for every other person who's not a robot on the planet i just look like a complete asshole well at least you realize that's a robotic tool that i relate to you i relate to you a lot and it's like it just comes across as so condescending to your person you're with you're just like just try it

it's super easy and by the way why are you feeling the way you are feeling? That's insane. I'm what? You're just trying to be earnest. I'm trying to be helpful. No, I'm trying to be helpful. No, I really have the best intentions. No, you're being a dick.

That is the one source of a lot of, I guess, disagreement is the tone. Well, it's because I'll talk to Jonathan. Jonathan and I can just talk to each other. There's no sugarcoating. I guess disagreement is the tone well because and it's because I'll talk to Jonathan Jonathan and I can just talk to each other there's no sugar coating we just spit it out

we keep it short and we deal with it I love it because that's the way I like to communicate but I know I can't talk with Linda that way

and I can't talk with a lot of my friends that way I definitely can't talk to my mom that way because she'll automatically think that something like you know

she knows her personalities but no no she's not very sensitive my mom is actually amazing i think we're all normal humans yeah exactly i think they're they're normal i'm just hacked yeah so but you have a shorthand also yeah well that's it i got so used to john i did everything together and we got used to that shorthand as soon as i talked to any normal human being with that i do come across as being short with somebody or I come across being a little bit, well, I'm not really condescending, but just short and rude.

Yeah. Dickish. Yes. Thank you. Dickish. Yeah. I know my kind. But it also doesn't help.

I find sometimes maybe you get this. How tall are you? 6'2". Yeah. So I'm 6'4". Just because of my height and like the size of most people i'm looking down while i'm talking to them and a lot of times with the way i talk some people will think i'm talking down to them like like verbally

talking down to them and i'm like no it's just that i'm tall that's all i my size should not affect the way you're receiving this communication but But no, I had a conversation last night about anxiety and ADD. And I was, you know, it was just like, hey, if you have anxiety, people generally don't see anxiety. They just think you're weird. And if you have ADD, they don't see ADD. They just think you're dumb and forgetful. And I'm like, and then out of that that i'm tall and kind of cute so they

just think i'm a dick you're just like you're constantly just aloof or or short with them and yeah so be i i understand your plight so you're a weirdo freak dickish he's stupid egotistical because you called yourself cute so uh okay okay i okay. I want to see this on your profile. Wait, but you said you guys could be related. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So, Drew, do you have anyone you can set me up with? Yeah. Linda's sister, April, is perfect for you.

Taken. Taken. Yeah, Linda's like, Trump, stop. I have one question. I know, like, is it hard not to get wrapped up when you have one partner who has this huge job and it's so all-consuming to like get wrapped up in everything he's doing? Like how do you keep your own thing going? I think it's hard because I work – because we work together.

Yeah. But because I can see it from the outside, I'm the one who's constantly reminding ourselves we need to take a break or we need to work on a passion project or do we need to say yes to all of these things and the answer is always no um so yeah it is easy to get up uh to get caught up in it when we're so busy and we don't have a second to think about what we're doing but um yeah I think the one the one big thing us, you'll know the same, Nick, with your work and everything that you do. Opportunities, you know, when you've been on TV and stuff, opportunities are always coming at you, things to do that are really cool.

And I found in the early years, we were taking on a lot of these, just, you know, it's good publicity or whatever it might be. But now in our later years and our business has grown a fair bit we have less time available and a lot of these things they'll be there a year from now they'll be there another time and to overload our plate it has to that time has to come from somewhere and so i find in the past what has happened is it never came from another work initiative that time would come out of linda my time together and so we were starting to have no time together, just ourselves. Or when we were together, we were just talking work. And so that's the one big thing that we've noticed is we've had to change our schedule a little bit. We have to align things

better so that we are not taking away from our one-on-one time. That's really great. Non-negotiable. I like that. The non-negotiables. You guys seem to have a good balance, but who's in charge? Who's the boss? Because I feel like I know. That's hard. I would say, well, like with our company, I'm the boss. But this is what I'd say. Linda is like that voice of reason in your head. So everything I do, I always go to that voice of reason to think is this the right thing is this the smartest thing should we do this is this too much on our plate whatever it is so and even literally with everything like even like if i'm dressing to go somewhere or doing an event i'm like she likes men's fashion and she's much better uh than i am does this look okay do i look all right is it uh should i change the color i hope that comes from a positive place. It sounds like I'm really judgmental, right? Oh, no.

No, no. I get the sense. You know, Drew's the big personality, the talker, you know, the boss. But you're like Oz, the quiet, confident, you know. The real boss. At the end of the day, he's always coming. You're the chairman. He's like the CEO, but like you're the chairman.

No one really. She's the puppeteer. Yes. I'm the chairman. He's like the CEO, but like you're the chairman. No one really, like they see. She's the puppeteer. Yes. I'm the puppet. And like, and without the chairman, the CEO,

I mean, where is he really, what can he really do? You know, what I would actually say, the best way to visualize our dynamic though is, so I'm a mover and a shaker. I make things happen.

And so I've always been that way. You're great at connecting. Yeah. I create connections and make things moveaker. I make things happen. And so I've always been that way. You're great at connecting. Yeah, I create connections and make things move forward. And that's one thing, working together over the years, Jonathan and me, we're both kind of this sort of personality,

but I'm the guy that can kind of come into a room and make things happen and move forward. Linda is the most creative person you would ever have met in your life. She's extremely creative artistically, mentally, like coming up with some of our marketing campaigns or new furniture design or new show development. She's in every aspect of our business as a creative director.

But she likes to move at a slower, really sort of methodical rate. I can't move slow. I like to move, move, move. I make decisions. I come up with ideas and I go. So we are constantly, our relationship is constantly pulling each other back and forth.

She slows me down. Then I speed her up. She takes more time on something. I get something done. And I really think it's created this ultimate balance for both of us. I'm very envious of that dynamic. Great. Yeah.

Yeah. No, because I like balance and I like to have someone, people always say in relationships, it's like, well, what are you looking for? It's like, I want someone to make me a better person. I always hate that answer because you can't, no one can make you a better person, but you can find people who help you be your best self in a sense. And so it's just finding someone who, you know, completes you in that kind of cheesy way where like, as you just described, Drew,

you have your strengths. Linda, you have your strengths. And together, you'll really be able to bring out the parts of you that you're not good at. And they bring that up. And that's kind of everyone's dream. I think that,

and that's what a lot of people don't, I think people get into relationships thinking they can change somebody. I mean, I see, you see it all the time, whether it's, you know, some guy that wants a certain something in who they're with or some, some girl who's dating somebody and thinks that, you know, I could make him be more like this. Or they, and people think they wouldn't get in relationships because they can be changed. Yeah.

They can, oh, I'm a shitty person, but I just need to meet someone to stop me from doing this. Yeah. And I mean, the only people that can change you is really yourself. If you, and if it's for the right reasons, like for me, I like being in a relationship that there are things that I've had to change in my lifestyle because now there's somebody else I have to put first as well. It's before when you're on your own, you're only, it's just yourself that you're taking

care of. And I think that's changed me and I've changed me in the right ways in this relationship. And Linda's done the same so that we work better together. And yeah, that's something I learned early, early on is you never want to try to change someone else. Just hopefully they'll want to make certain changes for you. Yeah. If that makes sense. No, it does. It's great. And before we wrap up with our fun game that we play called Do Me Know Me, Do You Know Me? Do Me Know Me? Do You Know Me.

Really selling the game. Do Me Know Me. Do Me Know Me. Do Me Know Me. You love to take classes for anything. Yes, I do. And I love that about you so much in our world that we talk about it. Like most people, once they finish traditional school they have this sense of i'm done learning i'm done taking risks this is the life i have i don't care

if i'm unhappy or complacent they just don't do much about it you're taking classes for ping pong why you said it in a judgmental way i did i apologize i think it's great but because like you can really if you want to get better at something there's a there's youtube or whatever it is and you fully embrace this ability to why youtube that when you can get a sensei of ping pong to come and teach you his way so what's his name i've had many over the years i i've won one fellow i don't know how to pronounce his name actually but've had many over the years. I have one fellow. I don't know how to pronounce his name, actually. But he played on the Chinese national team. And when you think table tennis, that's the gold globe there.

Yeah. So anyway, my whole philosophy my whole life is I'm a lifelong student. I love learning. And I love experiencing new things. And that's one reason Linda and I really bonded, too, is because we are always up for trying something new and different. And with that, I'm just very competitive. I love competing. And it's not, it's never competing to knock someone else down. Growing up, Jonathan and I were always competing, but we were competing to push each other to do better. And so I think like my philosophy in life is why reinforce bad habits when you can learn to do it right. And so for me, no matter what it is, whether it's guitar, golf, table tennis,

I'll get lessons from someone. And it's not like I take lessons all the time. Like I'll do a random lesson here, a random lesson there, but it's to learn to do it better so I can destroy my friends. Yeah, but I do think that's great. Especially in our adult lives, we have this feeling that if we are

getting into something new or teaching ourselves it's like i can't believe i'm at this point it's like they almost see it as a bad thing you know it's like i never i'm behind because like what what if if you do start something later in life and you take a risk then you start comparing your yourself to people who are experts or pros who have done it at an early age and you get so self-judgmental. And you know what the funny thing is? I saw a stat at some point, I don't know, I can't remember exactly what it was, but if you see people who go back to school later in life and get their degree, a lot of times they excel faster because I think one,

when they're in school, they're less distracted with the socialization. They have a purpose. Exactly. And they're very committed. And I think that's a really great thing. I love seeing people at any point in their life, even like when you retire, if you're 60 or 70 and you go back to school for something, that's phenomenal. And I think as soon as you think you've learned it all or you don't have to learn anymore, then you're lying to yourself. And that was actually a business philosophy that I learned early on too is with clients. When I was a real estate agent, a lot of realtors want you to think that they know everything. There's absolutely nothing that they don't know about this house or whatever else. And you can tell when somebody is lying to you if they don't know all the facts on this house.

So I would be the one that would be honest with my clients. And I would say, I don't know the answer to that right now, but I'm going to find out for you, and I'll make sure to get you an answer. and all clients wanted to know is that i was working for them and i didn't know the answer there you establish trust too you admit you don't know something yeah and they can smell it when something when you're lying to them and you don't know they can smell and then they have some maybe they don't know right up front but subconsciously they have a they know there's something that they don't like about you yeah and that never worked and i think that's one way to establish our the way we've grown all our relationships,

whether it's work or personal, is establishing that trust that I'm never going to just sort of sugarcoat or lie or I'll just be a robot. I think it's great. I think those are all great takeaways. And when I heard that about you, I was like, that's really cool. And I think people need to hear more about that

because people are afraid to take risks after. It's bizarre. We've decided as a society that once we graduate from college, if we went that far, this is the life I'm stuck with. And that just doesn't have to be the case. What's the weirdest thing you've taken lessons for? I am currently in acting, acting improv and stand-up comedy class that's very weird that is not weird that's amazing oh i was like so we i did acting classes

um improv sketch comedy stand-up all before i get into hosting all of that has made me a better host it's made me a better better business owner and it's made me more present with people that we're dealing with having that experience i have different goals with them i've done acting um i do hosting but i also have to that point kind of realistic realistic expectations of uh do i have like big goals with all of them sure but i'm also i have that no matter what i'm doing it's gonna help me in some aspect if If nothing else, it helps me be a better host of the podcast or just helps a gig I might get. I'm also just having fun doing it.

I'm also meeting and connecting people in my life. Who knows, I might meet a girl, you never know. Like I'm- You might have a meet cute. Right, and so, you know, I've done all these things and that it is something as I've gotten older, I've challenged myself to do because 22 and 23 year old me never would have done that.

You know, I never, I would have judged myself too much for, for doing that. So, uh, also acting class is basically a therapy session. It really is.

Yeah. Well, I would, so now in my acting class, I, I've got my teacher to start a group, but before we'd work one-on-one, and the first 20 minutes was really just therapy.

I'd go in, like, should we act, or can I just tell you about, like, my problems? It was great. So before I let you two go, will you play a fun game with us? All right. It's called Do You Know Me? Real simple. I'm going to ask a a question rochelle selected

these questions uh we haven't played it with two people before but i think we can adjust um i'm gonna ask you guys a question has drew and or linda ever done x y or z don't answer right away rochelle and i will guess okay uh and we'll figure out if we know true and linda see you could have cheated because if you looked online i'm sure the answer to every one of these and we'll figure out if we know Drew and Linda. You could have cheated because if you looked online I'm sure the answer to every one of these questions is out there. You might be surprised. We'll see. Let's not assume

Drew. Alright, do you know me with Drew and Linda Scott? Question number one. Can Drew and Linda spell the word millennial I think I think Linda

absolutely can whoa whoa whoa and I question if Drew can me no happy I think they both can I have zero chance I'm looking at it,

how it's spelled and I still might screw it up. I think they both can. Do we do it at the same time? Yeah. I think you have to. You do. Yeah. I will point out

that you're probably somewhat right. She's better with spelling. Oh, I love spelling these. All right, ready? Okay. Can you use it in a sentence? I would like Drew to go first because I just know that.

Okay. All right, let's do it. I got a picture of this. M. I would like Drew to go first because I just know I gotta picture this M am I right so far? killing it so far M-I-L-E-N N-I-A-L-L-E-Z wrong

wow you were so confident she spells it with finger no way she'll write it out on her leg oh no i was so confident now you're don't get in your head don't get in your head m-i-l-e-n-n-i-a-l so close l okay m-i-l-l-e-n-n- n n i a l correct wow that was the first double l you missed the double l so when i was in elementary school the first spelling bee i ever did it was bicycle i had to spell and i i was like b i k l y c k whatever it was and i was out first round and i felt like uh i felt terrible and i've never been good at words since. I lost on grocery.

You're borderline weirding me out. I'm a terrible speller, and in the second grade, I'm almost certain bicycle was the word that got me out. I think we did live the same life. Were you also – I mean, I'm actually just a test tube experiment. Jonathan was a single kid, and they just started cloning him. I don't have a twin that didn't make it

that I know of. He does have 10 siblings. I do have 10 siblings. Oh my God. I didn't know that. Are you the baby? Second oldest. Oh, okay.

Why did you think he was the baby? I don't know. Childish. Just a weird sense of entitlement. Question number two. Does Drew linda have a pair of cargo shorts the fashion police linda does not i don't know drew's he has pink socks i definitely got one deep in his drawer cargo shorts i think he's got one when he's you know doing demolition

sometimes because you do that stuff now i don't want to include he might somewhere in his house have a pair he never wears i'm gonna augment it's part of his active wardrobe no you don't want to i'm still saying yes you can't change it nick you already said no okay go i i'm just i don't think he does i don't think either of them do you have so little like your standards from here are so low. He has pink socks on. I don't have cargo shorts. Excuse me. But we have cargo pants.

Well, yeah, I guess. There's a difference. But they're more stylish. They're like runway cargo pants. I love cargo pants and shorts. I should get cargo shorts. I love pockets. But I think the ones you're thinking of there are the terrible, terrible ones

that it's usually like someone's dad wears that with flip flops or white socks up in the mid-calf. If you're watching this on YouTube, this is a very fashionable couple. Yes, true. Question number three. Has Drew and Linda eaten at a fast food restaurant in the last week? I like how the English is so bad with it. Has Drew and Linda instead of have Drew and Linda. Well, they're changing it up because we're two people.

That's just because he doesn't. He's low-key making fun of me. We've established him and I are not good with the English language. I'm almost, yeah. Millennials. Millennials. Oh, that's how I should have done it. Millennials.

Shit. Mill. Yeah, mill. See, that makes so much sense, but I wouldn't know how to do that. Okay, so he said I... I usually give up, you know, when I'm typing something, you know, and it's just like... You said autocorrect? Autocorrect.

And then I just pick a different word, Nick. All right. Fast food, past 24... Well, past week. He already gave me a hard time for underestimating him and his taste level. So he has absolutely not had fast food in the past 24 hours. Wait, 24 hours? Is that what you said?

A week. I'm going to say a week. A week? Okay, they haven't. I'm just trying to make up for the cargo shorts. I think Drew has. He's a very busy guy. He tries to eat healthy.

But when he has a craving, he has a craving. And so there is something that he has eaten. And Linda? No, she can follow through better. She won't do it. Whoa! Oh! So you're basically saying she can follow through. Linda always goes all the way, is what you're basically saying she can follow through linda will always goes

all the way is what you're saying yes basically if i'm craving it i will eat it you will so you what have you eaten i'm sure i ate fries like hell yeah but fries aren't really fast food we haven't done any fast food this really no so linda and i switched over six months ago to a vegetarian diet. Really? And we've been trying really hard to stick to it. And we've done a little fish from time to time, but we haven't done any red meat. We haven't done chicken.

We haven't done pork. Don't miss it. I thought I would. I grew up on a ranch. Do you help? Is it nice to do that with someone? Yes. Oh, it's so much easier.

I couldn't do it without having a partner, like literally a teammate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so much easier. Even with us trying to eat healthy, if I order dessert, he's eating it. Yeah. So we have to be in it together.

The only willpower I have is at the grocery store. Yeah. It's just like if I don't buy it. But if it's like at home. Yeah. If it's already there, you're going to take it. You can put crackers and cheese in front of me and I'm done but we we have a chef that makes meals wherever we are too and some people are like oh so foofy no honestly it's because it costs us less to get a customized really healthy

meal instead of the amount of time that it takes to go to the grocery store and then make it and everything else and then there's less it helps us and there's less waste that's how i get past the craving to go do fast food because of our busy schedule is because we have these amazing meals prepped for us. That would, yeah. It's for me when I cheat, it's because I'm like, I'm at that crossroad of being hungry and not knowing what to eat and not having something there. And then you just.

Because I'd rather eat than starve myself. Like I don't want to not eat if I'm hungry. Yeah. It's ideal. Yeah. You realize he's answering all these questions for himself thinking that that will be the right answer for me. I'm projecting.

Yeah. Have Linda and Drew eaten? No, that's have. Did. Did. Did. Did Drew and Linda go to private school? You. I don't remember. Did Drew and Linda go to private school? You finished high school early,

or you did some unique school. Yeah, I think Drew did. I'm going to just guess that Linda went public. I'm going to guess she went, I think they both went private. Is it because she looks rough and tough? Yeah, I'm just guessing. I really have no idea.

Who knows? I'm just guessing. I really have no idea. Who knows? I went to public. I think that's just kind of where you come from, more like opportunity rather than... I'll give you one more hint. Private and public. Okay, so you say I'm private. You think I'm private.

At some point, you did. So we grew up in Canada. So that influences you at all. So everyone goes to public. is that what that means that's a weird hint i don't know anything about canada i am not familiar with canada so okay so we both we call it university yeah exactly we both went to public school but in canada most people think when you compare the u.s school system to canada all public schools are great or most most public schools in Canada are great. They're not as sort of...

Yeah. But there are private schools in Canada. There are private schools. But yes, we both went to public schools. And you did do your research because I did go to a unique school. It was a test school. There were only two in all of Canada, and it was a work-at-your-own-pace, almost more like college.

And so from grade 9 to 12, you work at your own pace. If I was really good at something, I could excel. For example, math. I completed every grade of math in two weeks each because I was like a total math nerd. That's amazing. More than a nerd. It's a product.

Yes, yes. But now I can barely calculate a tip at the end of it. Anyway, yeah. Because you only did it for two weeks, maybe. But I do like to talk like this from time to time so people think I went to private school right Buffy

Buffy I don't know I just want to point out this starts with is but I'm going to change it to are are Drew and Linda smiling in their ID

driver's license this is a good one good question drew yes drew no for me linda no linda yes i'm opposite look at that great smile she's got a great smile if only she could drive oh no she doesn't drive but do you have an id yeah yeah are you smiling in the photo i thought you weren't allowed to in canada i don't think you're allowed to uh originally and then i mean i have a u.s driver's license you can't smile in passport yeah oh is that what it is okay yeah you're right

i am smiling i am smiling oh oh you're oh i'm smiling in mine you don't drive i don't drive linda is the zoolander of drivers she can't turn left like that's anxiety like that puts her anxiety through the roof you can't or you just do you just rather not i'm not i don't love driving i would rather not and i don't have my license anymore just because i've never good for you she would take three three rights before she takes a left i would if it was a crazy road. Or I'm the one who parks far away where it's easier to park. Oh yeah.

And then I would just walk. I love that about you. No, I mean. Like I don't want to hit anyone's car. Not only that, but like I can't how many times I've been driving around with someone and they're just like waiting and waiting for the perfect parking spot.

Like we could have parked. Oh yeah. Two blocks away. I'm just saying, I don't love that. But you have to do the drive-by because if there's a spot, there's a spot. But if you're the person who sits there and waits for 10 minutes for a spot to open up

when you could have literally five seconds driven further, then you're an idiot. Maybe an asshole if the car's behind you. Yeah. Exactly. Maybe a little dickish. Yeah. Thanks so much for coming, guys. Tell us a little bitish yeah yeah uh thanks so much for coming guys let

tell us a little bit about your podcast that people uh can listen to that you guys just recently launched yeah it's called at home with linda and drew scott and we have conversations with awesome people at home so that we can spend more time chilling yeah honestly it was a way for us just to get amazing people together um listen to their stories dig deeper and also for for our fans to dig deeper into our lives because there's only so much we talk about on our shows and so it's really pulling back the curtains and you know linda has a risque life that we really dig into so you'll find out all about the lady of the night crazy craft oh yeah but it's been a lot of fun i know you're going to be sitting down with us as well. If you'll have me.

We will definitely have you. I have a ping pong table in our basement as well. Uh-oh. So that's the other way. I'll beat you with that. Probably. At home, podcast.net

and you can get it wherever you listen to your podcasts. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks, babe. Thank you. Well, thanks so much

for coming, guys. It's been a ton of fun. As always, guys, thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to send your questions at asknickatcastmedcom cast with a k feel free to give us five stars you can save your four threes twos and ones at home i would have given you a six star if i could or ten we both can't spell um thanks so much guys and always guys thank you for listening

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