The Viall Files - E991 - Love Island Reunion w/ Austin Shepard, Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Engaged & 1,000th Episode Plans

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Well, the Love Island Reunion has finally aired and we’re so excited to have Austin Shepard on the show to get into all the drama, messiness, and find out what exactly was going on in his brain during it all! Meanwhile, Susie Evans comes to hang out again and talk about Taylor and Travis getting engaged, Spotify adding DM’s, Bachelor in Paradise, spitball about what we should do for our 1,000th episode and more! You won’t want to miss it :) “In the past, I was 100% a ghoster.” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  We’ve partnered with Mint Mobile to open a hot takes hotline to hear your scorching hot opinions! Give us your hot takes, thoughts and theories and we’ll read and react to the best ones on an upcoming Reality Recap episode! All you have to do is call 1-855-MINT-TLK or, if you prefer the numbers, that’s 1-855-646-8855 and leave us a message. Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [e-mail] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [e-mail] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: [e-mail] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Cymbiotika- Go to https://cymbiotika.com/viall to get 20% off plus free shipping. Cook Unity - Go to https://cookunity.com/viallfree or enter code viallfree before checkout for free premium meals for life. Cozy Earth - Head to https://cozyearth.com and use code VIALL for up to 40% off! Happy Thursday - Weekend vibes all summer long. To find out more and find a Happy Thursday near you visit https://drinkhappythursday.com/viall  Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (10:48) - Household Headlines (21:09) - Breaking News (26:36) - Bachelor In Paradise (33:05) - Austin Interview (01:17:15) - Outro Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @austin_shepard3 @susiecevans @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell @the_mare_bare

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Go to symbiotica.com slash V-I-A-L to get 20% off plus free shipping. That's C-Y-M-B-I-O-T-I-A.com slash V-I-A-L for 20% off plus free shipping. You're crazy. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the, All Files, I'm your host, Nick, joined by my gorgeous, lovely, lovely, fantastic, sexy, beautiful, gorgeous, amazing, funny, spectacular, kind, great wife, Natalie Joy, joined by the rest of the household. Susie Evan returns. Evan, just one.

Just one Evan. Well, she is becoming a member of the household. Susie Evans is becoming a member of the household. Is it Evan or Evans? Evans. Evans. We fooled you, okay. Can I say Evans?

You said Evans. No, you said Evan. He probably said Evan, but like in his brain added the S and then we corrected him and then he was confused. I'm a dumb, dumb guys. He's just got a couple. His elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor. No. Sometimes I need a reboot like Austin Shepard did at the reunion.

Who is our guest this episode? Excited to have him on. Austin seems like a little troublemaker, you know? You know, he seems like he has some beef. I feel like maybe he wasn't in the right mind set at the reunion. And I feel like we've got him on a good one-on-one. Want to make him feel comfortable, cozy. Seven-on-one.

Do we just have Austin sit in my chair since we're not in L.A. at the moment? Sure. It looks cozy over there. Yeah. No, we want them behind the vowel file sign. Well, we have a lot to get into. Guys, I don't know if you realize this. We are closing in on our 1,000 episode, which is unfortunate because I have a hard time with my THs.

I have a hard time saying 1,000 1,000 1,000 Anyways, I literally have a speech class You all have bullied him into a speech class Whoa, no way Speech coach I'm working on my articulations

The haters have bullied him into his marble mouth Fixing his marble mouth Wow I just listen you always got to fine tune Your skill set It was constructive criticism Well it's something I've always wanted to work on And I just think I could be I could work on some of my weaknesses

I think I think you know a little vulnerability goes a long way anyways you guys bullied me have you guys ever seen that tweet that's like sometimes the haters are right this is a win for the haters this is a win for the haters and honestly they're going to hate us even more

because then what are they going to have to like criticize Nick on what's going to happen when I'm perfect literally right anyways you know we've been doing this show for since 2019 we are approaching that episode number.

1,000 episodes. And we got some big things coming up. We're going to be upgrading studios. That's going to be fun. We obviously want to have an exciting celebration for our 1,000 episode. Now, kind of like, we don't know when we're going to celebrate it. It might be on number 1,000. It might be a little bit after because we want to make sure that episode is special.

And we're bouncing around and we're really busy. Maybe we celebrate it on our 106th episode. I don't know. A thousandth and six. A thousandth and six? Thousandth. Thousands and tenths. I don't know.

Sometimes your birthday is on a Monday. And it's just like, why would you have a party on a Monday? Exactly. You celebrate it on a Saturday. So maybe our thousandth episode falls on a Tuesday. Well, that's reality. I don't know. We don't know.

But we would love to, we're going to celebrate it. We would love to brainstorm ideas with you guys about who would be some exciting guests to celebrate number 1,000. So who do y'all want to see for our thousandth episode? Like, who would be fun? Who would be fun? I say Andy Cohen. Wow. Andy Cohen would be fun.

I say Jen Shaw from prison. Oh, yeah. Oh, that would be an iconic. Yeah. In her jump suit. Maybe Elizabeth Holmes makes a cameo. Yeah. Gislein, not allowed.

How are we going to get some of these guests? Do you think? We're putting it out there right now. Yeah. Putting it out there now, willing it into existence. Yeah. I mean. If Travis Kelsey can get a whole ass wife from shooting me shot on a podcast.

Yeah. so true we're shooting our shot right now we can get a guess just for just for that celebration just for the thousandth episode nick gets divorces me and marry someone else I will offer our thousand thousand and he has and he and he no longer has a marble melt so he's like here's my whenever we celebrate our thousand thousandth episode I'm going to be able to say one thousand empathy. That's going to be your goal that you go in with. Yeah, we're not celebrating it

until I can say the word. Fine, that's fair. That's fair. So you'll know when we celebrate is not because of the guest, it's because it's when Nick is ready to say it. His articulations have improved. That it is our thousands.

We're just celebrating that Nick can finally speak again. Give me some more names, guys. And if you're listening, feel free to say I'm out loud in your car. Or DMS. Or comment below. Yeah. Katie Perry. From space.

Maybe very interesting. In space. What? In space. In space. I don't want to go to that though. I don't know, Nick. Let's figure out like who we could get through like your connections.

Like six degrees of separation. Yeah. I'm a very connected man. He's been around for a while. Yeah. You've been on The Bachelor. You've been on dancing with the stars. You've been on special forces.

Should we like Kevin Bacon? Yeah. Kevin Bacon. Yes. Let's Kevin Bacon it. Okay. So who do we who do we have? Wait, do Kevin Bacon.

Kevin Bacon. Oh, Kevin Bacon. So what are you doing, Leah? You're just, like, plugging this into... Yeah, I'm going to plug it into our friend AI. Six degrees of separation from Nick Byall to Kevin Bacon. Is this a thing? But you can ask, like, how you're connected to somebody through chat, GPT?

I guess so. Okay. Are you ready? Nick Byall starred on The Bachelor and later appeared on Dancing with the Stars in 2017. On Dancing with the Stars, Nick competed against Simone Biles. Simone Biles was the subject of Simone versus... herself, a docu series produced by Facebook Watch, which also featured Ali Raisman. Ali Raisman appears in the documentary at the heart of gold inside the USA Gymnastic

Scandal in 2019. That documentary was produced by HBO, which also produced the following starring Kevin Bacon. Is that 17 degrees? Wow, that's that's five. Sounds like an easy get. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Simone Biles, Ali Raisman, Kevin Bacon. HBO? I mean, we have to go to watch. HB. HB.O. I mean, we have to go to watch. They've heard just literally everyone. I don't even know what Facebook watch is. If Dancing with the Stars in HBO are, you got to, can you ask AI to eliminate Dancing with the Stars is an obvious?

Yeah, because it's just like, and also who's competed on Dancing with the Stars is everyone. It'd be nice if I could just like go through your email and your followers. Well, here we go. Nick Viol appeared on the Vile Files podcast. Yes, I did. So many celebrity guests. One of his notable guests was Olivia Wilde. Nope.

What? When did that happen? Thank God for Chad GPT. What would we do without it? All right. We're doing a different one, Lana Del Rey. Why did chat GPT think I had Olivia Wild? Should I, we DM Olivia Wild?

The internet says you've already appeared on the show. Would you like to be our 1,000 episode guest? We DM Olivia and we're like, we'd love to have you back on. We had so much. fun with you before and then she's like oh I guess I already did it so might as well do it again she just gaslight Olivia Wilde into thinking she's already I've thought about doing that before where instead of sending like a pitch to a guest I just send a confirmation letter with the date time and a calendar invite yeah you're going to get an assistant fired leo okay here's a plausible six degrees of separation from Nick Viall to Lana del Rey Nick Viall appeared on

the Bachelor and has been on podcasts with reality TV personalities. Chris Harrison hosted the Bachelor and he appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show. Ellen DeGeneres has interviewed. I appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show. So we're down a degree. Well, don't worry because Ellen interviewed Gwen Stefani who collaborated with Lana Del Rey. Okay. Let's do another one. I remember when I first I don't know if Alan's going to be up for that intro. Yeah. I remember when I first met Nick and he wore the Ellen DeGeneres. underwear. And I was like, oh, this guy's cool. He's been around the block. Did you? Yeah, because I remember seeing like Ellen only gave them to like the people who like the hot guys who came

on her show. Oh. So then I was like, no. I was like, oh, period. He must have. Like I doubt he bought those off of like Ellen DeGeneres.com. Could you imagine that I was watching Ellen and I saw Ellen give like Zach Efron underwear and then I went to her merch store to buy underwear and I only wore it when and girls came over. What? Wow. Wait, really? That's maybe the most pathetic thing anyone could ever do.

Well, speaking of sliding in DMs, did you see that Spotify has added a place where you can, like, DM people? Oh, yes, I have. No. Yeah. They have already added or they're adding. I think they're introducing in-app direct messages, and I think they're rolling it out this week in select markets.

For people 16-plus. Well, if you're listening to this podcast on Spotify, go ahead. and DM your friends, tell them about us. Also, like, you know, throw out your suggestions. Well, I have another suggestion. Okay. Taylor Swift. Oh, yes.

I'm sure she's free and available. Taylor Swift and her new fiancé. Yeah, she had such a good time on her first podcast appearance. She's itching to do another one, I'm sure. How am I? Well, I've, Taylor Swift gave me a ride home once. What? So we don't need six degrees of separation.

We have a mutual friend. And that friend asked me to go to a wedding, crashing a wedding. Taylor was there. Jared and I went. She was very nice. And basically her, you know, we car, like, it wasn't just me. It was a group of people. She wasn't behind the wheel.

She was not behind her wheel. Her security was. And they did not drop us off at our house. It was like they dropped us off at our car, I think, somewhere. I don't know. We left the party with Taylor. Anyways, I'm not trying to, you know, it's about Taylor and Travis right now. No, please.

Tell us more. I'm like, what was she like? Was she super cool? She's very nice. Actually, the most endearing moment is the end of the wedding. And she spent the whole night dancing and entertaining this very sweet, like, I don't know, 12-year-old girl. She was like so nice. And then one of Taylor's songs came on and the wedding, everyone was done.

And Taylor was like a little sad. No one was dancing. And it was like the most humanizing thing. I thought it was so endearing. And like I just noticed it. She was, I mean, she was this a normal person in the, in the best. best possible way. Jared was talking to her about their Rhode Island connections. It was a, it was a cool moment. I love that. That is very endearing. I feel like the podcast, New Heights, as well,

I was like, oh, she's like, she's just like us. She felt very normal. She's like, she's just a normie, like, trapped in a billionaire body with, like, a genius brain. Yeah. Truly genius. Like, where is, where does Travis Kelsey's dad, like, give all these, like, insights into their. I was wondering where that came from? And was that allowed? Is he in trouble now? Right. Travis Kelsey's dad. Ed Kelsey reveals that Travis proposed to Taylor nearly two weeks ago. He also said something else, right? Oh yeah. He mentioned, I think he said that they were going to dinner. And then he was like, oh, let's go out for a, let's go out back for a drink. I think that's what happened. Or that's what he said happened. And then that's when he proposed, according to the dad. Anyways. But yeah, how, I mean, like, is his dad just like getting on his Instagram stories and like writing like details? He spoke to News 5 Cleveland. Oh, that's a very dad thing to do. Dad revealed Travis and Taylor's proposal took place two weeks ago at...

Shout out to News 5, Cleveland. Ed shared how he told he encouraged Travis to plan a modest roadside proposal, but claimed that Travis wanted a grand special event. Roadside. Roadside. He told the news channel he was going to put her off till this week to, you know, make some grand thing to make it a big special event. And I told him repeatedly, you know, you could do it on the side of the road,

do it any place and make it a special event. when you get down on one knee and ask her to marry you. Respectfully, Ed. Side of the road. I mean, I'm just like, why is Taylor lived on the side of a highway getting proposed to? That's a man who loves his son. He was like, you know what, as long as you mean it, you can do no wrong. He shared that he's known of Travis's plan to propose for months, and he even expected his son to ask the question during the last football season.

Ten carrots. You know, our second year anniversary is coming up. I'll be very meat of 10 carrots. I won't mind. I have to learn how to say 1,000 first. You'll know my birthday is Sunday and Nick, which is in how many days from today when this airs? Two? I have.

Nick this morning goes, just like out of your, so you haven't like updated your wish list and like, oh. Oh, no. I was like, oh, two days beforehand. I've been busy doing other stuff for your birthday. And also, how's this work, guys? Can I, can I just, Natalie and I, we've been making a lot of meaningful investments in our lives. We've, we've had some, we've had an exciting year of big moments and big purchases.

You guys all know the lakehouse is about to be done. Not cheap. And Natalie, a few weeks ago, Graciously, it was like, you know what, let, and my birthday is coming up, like a month later. She was like, not really coming up. Let's not, she's like, let's, like, we're not going to. you gifts, you know? I didn't say about yours. I just said you don't have to get me a gift because I haven't been spending so much.

And I was like, you don't have to get me a gift. And I was like, this is a trap. True question. Right. This is officially a test. This is a. You better pass. She's set it.

She's either setting me up for success or failure. Listen, she's just being gracious because she offered that you didn't have to get her a gift. But like, if you don't. But I cannot take her up on said offer. I'm expecting the gift to be inside. I'm exciting my reaction to be like, but babe, I told you you didn't have to get me anything.

My heart wants to be like, oh my God, what a cool wife. I don't, honestly, great. Say less. No gifts. I'm good. Because I don't need a gift for my birthday ever.

I honestly, if I never got a gift for the rest of my life, wouldn't care. It's not my love language. Natalie noted. I know. But I don't operate that way. No.

No. Anyway, you need to go ahead and update that wish list. Yeah. Because the Celine bag that I haven't gotten you that's on that list, no longer available. Oh. Okay. I'll look back at my wish list. Oh, my God.

Wait, wait, wait, you guys. Did you hear about the Katie OC drama? No. There's more. There's more. What happened? So basically, she just went on. She slept over at a blogger's house.

Yeah, she hooked up with a blogger. No, I'm just kidding. She is a blogger. She is a blogger. She did the Scooby-Dude. They pulled off the mask. I am the blogger. I'm the blogger.

Yeah, Katie Janella is actually reality, Vantis. No, basically she did an interview and she was saying that she wasn't invited to the OC cast trip to Amsterdam, but it was because production was trying to protect her. I don't feel like that's how you... Honest. Film a show. Yeah. Also, don't you get paid more when you go on the cast trip? Yeah.

Yeah. She's missing out of money. Also, aren't cast trips like four episodes of a season? Yeah. It's the main event. This year they did too. Yeah. Do we believe her?

So basically, she was like, in my opinion, they did me a favor. Right. Yeah. That is not the same as Bravo told me. babe, you shouldn't go, they're out for you, like, protect your mental health, stay home with your kids. This is giving, yeah. This is more like, hey, he hasn't called yet and the girl he's rally around and be like, I think,

he's obsessed with you. He's like just too busy. He literally wants to marry him. He's planning a proposal on the roadside. Not the roadside. I will be pissed if Katie's gone. I mean, I, you know, there's been a lot of obviously discussion and discourse around Katie. And for that reason, we want Katie.

I mean, like, Katie's been carrying, like, if Katie's gone, it's going to give very Monica Garcia, you know, and whether you like Katie or don't like Katie or believe Katie or don't believe Katie, she has given us a lot of, like, great content and great discussion points. And it's just like, I mean, what are we doing here when we like, you can't just bring on news housewives just because like a bunch of OG housewives are kind of just. over fighting with each other and don't want to like give it their all so they bring someone in new just basically to like beat up on and spit out like what's that's not fun are they you know like I would that would be very not cool of of Bravo no I agree I'm like I feel like every

housewife has to go through their hazing unfortunately and their rough seasons but then after while everybody has to like leave them alone but I've been seeing that a lot where it's like these OG casts will bring in a new person. And then it's like they bully them off the show essentially. And it's like, okay, because you guys didn't have storylines. Like, if you guys are actually friends and become a cast, next season could be great. Who knows? You know, because people want to watch that.

You want to watch people fall apart, but you also want to watch them come back together. Right, the redemption. I also feel like she wants to be there is what it sounds like. And she's like, oh, I wanted to make amends whether that's true or not. She wanted to be a part of it. So it feels like she's getting pushed out. Yeah, it's like stronger woman than me because I don't know how many times I could apologize and be like, I just want to.

go and piss people off right that's when you turn into camera yeah i also definitely want to see katie not with like the blogger drama like i want to see what else there is there behind because this feels a little like pulling teeth so i want to see like i don't know like different drama with katie who is kat who's katie is she cool with anyone i guess jen a little bit but maybe not anymore yeah i thought jen and gretchen and than when I just saw, like, Gretton talking about her basically being like, I was wrong. I should have. You know what?

You know what? Tamara just recently came out in an interview, practically, like, defending Katie and saying that, like, the girl, like, that Shannon went too hard on her and just needs to, like, leave it alone. Like, it was actually kind of surprising. See, that's why I like Tamara, because I think Tamara, she gets the bigger picture. Well, I think with Tamara, with that, it's kind of like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. with Gretchen and Shannon and Shannon yeah yeah she said it was like a cast pile on and it's backfiring because the fans love Katie so and these are her direct words yeah but also girl you were

part of that pylon wait guys breaking news it looks like ace did a podcast and he's throwing nick under the bus really you guys have to see his nick not me Nick his Nick not you all right let's see the I'm sure he's thrown you under the bus I'm sure he's done that too but let's let's see the clip okay hold on one second. Do you feel like O'Landria and Nick's relationship is real? Silence

is real. That's wild. Yeah. Well, why doesn't it to say something? Or is this your answer? I'm going to assume that that's your answer.

Is that tough for you because O'Landria? is someone that you consider to be a close friend? Yeah. Yeah, it really is tough for me because, again, we just... So is he saying he's not close friends with Nick anymore? Time together at the club, and we all kicking and shit like that.

So I have a lot of respect for Alanger. But, again, from the last conversation that I've had with, you know, Nick, it was a matter of it's not a romantic spark. They just, you know what I'm saying? They find each other attractive. Nick and Alangia's relationship you've expressed your insides? you've expressed your opinions on that. Do you think that the other relationships

that have come from Love Island are real? Yeah, Taylor and Clark. I know that's for sure real. And the other ones, not so much, or... You know what this reminds me of, like, being 18 when, like, you know, you would have a girlfriend and your buddy would have a girlfriend, but you wanted to be the most in love couple.

It's giving kind of petty and jealous. I mean, also, Isn't there like a less jealous way of answering that question? Do we know if he were filmed this before or after the reunion? I don't know when this was recorded. I mean, we've all had our doubts on their relationship, but like he's supposed to be your boy. And it's just like. Yeah, I mean, I also think that like we can't like they have to deal with that enough from the public.

And also like, aren't they giving each other a chance to like maybe grow into a relationship? I don't fault him for trying to see if there's something there. Yeah. We also have Louis chiming in, responding to Andy Cohen. I think this is wild. I mean, first of all, I think this is really an embarrassing look on Louis's part. No, I agree. You want me to – I'm going to pull that one up, too,

just so that everyone can see what we're talking about. Well, you tell Netflix that we have the number one streaming show. Shut up. Nobody tells Andy Cohen to – Just shut up. First of all, he's from, like, the UK, and he has a British accent. But it looks so awkward that it almost sounded like a fake British accent in a weird way. Yeah.

Well, maybe he's trying to do an American accent. I don't know. But, like, yeah, you don't tell anyone to show up. Also, what is, like, Annie's right. And also, your girl embarrassed herself by lying the way she did out that answer. These two are just like, they are very into, they're very into themselves. It is crazy that they feel. like that like somehow that's a state secret and he hoodish shouldn't be answering that question or somehow

that like andy is out of pocket for asking this question and the way hood of responded by accusing andy of like pressuring her to answer this question is it is crazy she did also allude to the fact that uh that they cut a lot of apparently like the questions out like how many times she was pressured asking pressured like you you don't only get asked repeatedly because you refuse to ask a basic obvious question. You're literally doing red carpets with this man. If you don't want people to know about your relationship, stay inside. They're literally doing lives constantly with each other. And you're not going to speak on this relationship. I mean, like, get over yourself. It's like. I also believe they knew when

this reunion was going to be dropping. And she must have known that like the Netflix, like, the perfect match finale was going to air before this. I didn't like how she responded to Alandria being upset about her not standing up for her when it came to the racism. So that was wild. I mean, like, when, yeah, when Alandria talked about that, I mean, like, Huda clearly knows how to weaponize her audience. So she clearly is aware of the influence and power how aggressive her audience is. And the fact that, like, Alandria talked about some of these disgusting, racist things that she's had to deal with and these message. she's gotten and the fact that like huda goes basically what about me and tried to like literally

said like she's had to deal with those types of comments too it's like that not the same but then also even then you know how it feels why wouldn't you stand up for your friend yeah no it's specifically asked you to no i mean listen like i think hoda the more you're i've you i want i've tried to defend her in the past i've you know i don't know she's these two are i don't know yeah i was definitely, I felt for Elandria a lot in that moment because I was just like, it's just like, if you're really her friend, you're going to stand up against racism. Like, yeah, that was wild. Susie, did you, uh, did you watch Badger in Paradise this week?

I did. I did. I watched it. Yeah. How about you guys? Yeah. I mean, we watched it every week. I mean, like, it wasn't a ton going on there.

I wanted to remind people, uh, Dr. Laura Berman made an appearance this week. And Justin, your mom is a, is a, is she a, psychotherapist. He's a psychologist. Psychologist. Dr. Laura Berman, for those of you don't know, was introduced on Bachelor in Paradise as a psychotherapist, I believe. Well, she was brought on as a love expert therapist, and I'm just here to remind you that I wrote a wonderful book about dating in relationships called Don't Text Your Ex, Happy Birthday. And, oh, look here. It says Dr. Laura Berman right here. Let me read what she wrote. No way. Dr. Laura Berman says Nick has hard and well-earned wisdom to share from his own journey,

from heartbreak to healing to discovering real and lasting love. In his usual, compassionate, and humorous voice, he offers great advice, like an older brother who is way cooler and wiser than you. Period, Dr. Lauer. I also love the part on the episode where she was talking to Andrew and Alex. and was basically like you guys don't look like you want to have like you don't have any chemistry and then she basically described chemistry is like the desire to when you meet someone that you immediately want to have sex right and the way that Andrew and Alex look was like I

we don't want to have sex at all they're abstinent there is but I feel like Andrew and Alex are like a different brand do you know what I mean like they're a very specific You said they're friends. Have we ever seen them maybe give more than like a pack? I don't know. Well, he was trying to. He was going tongue first. They were during the camp thing.

They were all like straddling each other and doing. Yeah. I just feel like they're like quirky, cute. Like I don't think they're like sexy hot. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like they're like, oh my God, like quirky fun. We're goofy together and then like maybe laugh while we have sex. Yeah.

Oh, I like that. You know? Yeah. Have you ever laughed while you had sex? Absolutely. I've made so many jokes and whatnot, and I think it's so fun. I've gotten in trouble for like cracking jokes in the bedroom. Like, why not?

This is not the time. That's why I said, that's all I know he's my partner. Right. Like, you have fun with me? This should be fun. I'm like, shh during sex from a cow. I've never gotten to shh, but I've definitely gotten,

definitely gotten in trouble. Sometimes committing to the bed is the sexiest thing you can do. Literally. I love a bit. And it carries over. Even in the sack. Yes, and. Yes, and.

And yes. Exactly. Do you know who would make you laugh during sex? Probably Austin, right? Probably Austin Shepard. Yeah, and I think he's here. So up next, Austin Shepard, we're going to talk to him from Love Island. From Love Island, USA.

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We're excited to have you, man, fresh off the reunion. I guess let's just start there like what are you a little bit more zoned in here than you were there okay it was such a long day and so imagine imagine being at something for 15 hours that you aren't really like that press to be at and then you have to listen to everybody talk about their stuff and you're just like man I I just don't know if I really care all too much to like pay attention this whole entire time. So it was like, yeah, my, like, I was just so, I was out of it. I was out of it.

By the end of the day, like, we got there so early. We didn't start filming until, like, way later on. And, yeah, I was out of it. I was zoned the fuck out 100%. Like, I was, I was not there. I was so checked out. It felt like Jeremiah, like, needed you in that moment where Ace was coming out from. And I was like, well, Austin, you know him the best.

And you're like, I got nothing. I know. I know. I felt so bad because. that's my boy and I was like man afterwards I was like dude I'm sorry I wasn't I wasn't sharp there and he's like you're good man he's like

I understand he seems like a really chill oh yeah great guy I can speak from experience those reunions I mean you know what what ended up being a two hour show is like a 12 hour filming event literally I think ours was like 15 or 16 hours 16 hours well yeah that makes sense

because obviously your cast was massive and there was like, you know, 30-some-odd episodes, a lot to get to. And now, you know, you have all your peers coming out and being like, well, they edit out my conversation with this and they edited out this. Oh, yeah, maybe that's a great place to start. The Veal files, according to Shelley. Nick Veal. I think she said Veil.

Oh, yeah. I think she said Veal. Yeah. But Vanna really threw us under the bus. I want you to know, Austin. We don't edit anything out unless. uh our guests require if they if they say something they're just like hey man that might ruin my life we're not here to ruin anyone's day uh we will certainly take a note but like vana's like

no they edit out all the good stuff as if like vana implied that she spent an hour singing shelly's praises and we edited that all out and only kept in like her talking shit which definitely did not happen yeah no i think um you know in the reunion i think a lot of people are very very PR'd up. That's not me. It's very hard for me to be PR and I just can't do that that well. And yeah, once people started getting called out for what they were saying on podcast, it was

like, oh, well, I didn't say that or you know, that wasn't completely, it's like hey, just say, just say, yeah, I said it. Just say, yeah, you know, like, yeah, you know what, I said it, I'm sorry, we're here now, whatever, but like, you know, it's on recording. Yeah, it's like to next point. Like this isn't a 45 minute episode where we're trying to fit in like the juiciest stuff like as our listeners know we put out

two hour long episodes and like we don't we're not vana we're not cutting you short if you didn't say what you needed to say that's on you girl but like her being like I had to clear that up on my live that they cut out me saying like nope you just didn't say it here that's what I've always enjoyed about you Austin I was a fan of you from the beginning I've always appreciate authentic characters you know there's certain people you can tell who edit themselves there's a lot of people who you know talk like they're authentic and like claim to be constantly and then there's people who just are because like you can tell they sometimes step in it or they sometimes say you know it doesn't come out quite right you know so to speak and you've always come across to me as someone

who is like can't help but be themselves and you've 100% you've gotten criticism you face criticism you've owned, you know, the criticism you've had. You're an imperfect person like the rest of us. So I've always appreciated that about you. So, and I find those people on TV the most interesting characters. So thanks for being interesting. Well, thank you for being interested. Yeah, no, like at the end of the day, you know,

because Love Island does their best to cast people that are like just normal people. And then even before, like, of course I knew what Love Island was, like, you know, know of it but you don't really you're so disconnected from everything while on the actual show so you don't understand how big of a lens you're actually under and then so like when you come out it's like holy shit like you don't really realize like okay actually everything i do now like people are are going to be looking at and uh yeah as a very unserious person that just kind of let shit fly like it was like oh man anything i say it's like damned if i do damned if i don't be used against you.

You know the feeling. Have there been moments where you have had to be like, not what I meant, sorry. Yeah, definitely. But, like, I feel like in my head, I'm like, oh, man, that's not what I meant. But it's like, either way, even if you come back to it and say, like, that's not what I meant, people are going to be like, oh, well, this, that, this, that. So it's like, you just like, whatever, you know, I've got, if it's, if it's too crazy, then, like, you know, then say something.

But if it's like whatever, it's like, I'm just not going to touch that. Which I think leads into the Jeremiah Taylor, Ace, Nick, that whole drama where it was very much like Ace trying to say that Jeremiah had said all of these things about the money or about the show or whatever. And that's one of my biggest pet peeves is when you are with your friends and you are joking about something. And then they try to take that where you're like, oh my God, I would kill you. And then they're like, you made me feel so uncomfortable. You said you could kill me. And like, I'm scared to be around you. And so I totally understood Jeremiah being like, don't villainize that.

Did you feel like the guys like took a lot of what he said and tried to make it bad? I think they knew he was joking. It was just trying to justify a reason behind it of like why they moved the way they did. Because like, it was, it was so obviously a joke. And, like, when we were talking about the followers stuff, like, when he was, like, we were all sit. Like, I remember we had two conversations about this. Once when we all came in and then once when all the CASA people came in. It was just like, oh, how did you guys get discovered?

Like, did you have a following before this? And it was like, oh, no, I only had this amount. I only had this amount. Like, oh, man, that's crazy. And, like, that was like end of conversation. So it was like, there was no, like, oh, man, like, I can't wait to get this amount of, like, followers. I can't wait for this, this opportunity. like there was never that talk so that's why i was super confused because like it was like obviously

like we were just like bullshit and i'm like how we got there because there's times like you can't you don't want you don't want to talk about love island all the time like you're already on the show like it's like sometimes you just want to bullshit with your friends and just talk about whatever and like you know like we just go off on different tangents but yeah it was so surprising that like a lot of that got like i guess villainized weaponized but like it is what it is what it is. Like, it, it's just, I don't think, I don't think they actually thought that way. I really enjoyed watching Ace most this season. I think, you know, he made a lot of great points often. But one thing he always talked about, whether it was in, in the villa or post

villa, he always, like, talks about how he wants everyone to stand on business, right? Like, kind of, like, self-identifying himself is, like, the real one. But, like, speaking to that and then calling Jeremiah out for followers, it's just like, he wanted, like, the rest of the world to ignore, but of all the people coming into the villa, this guy, like, had close to a million followers already, was already an influencer, like, knew how to monetize, which is all great. I mean, like, pop off king, you know? Yeah. But it's just like, why are you calling this guy out for something you were literally already doing and making it seem like anyone else who's like, you know, like, you all went on a TV show. Of course you're excited to like get followers. And like,

of course you're excited to be famous. Like, that, why else would you come on? and risk the entire world criticizing everything about everything you say, if not for some of the benefits that come with it. 100%. Yeah, 100%. That's why, like, you know, and some people are, you know, don't hate the player, hate the game. You know what I mean? Like, that's like, that's a good attestment right there.

Like, you know, you can't hate on one person. Like, it's part of the game. Like, you guys all realize, like, yes, it's a day and show you're here to find love, but some people are better at playing the game than others. Yeah, that's just how it goes. And you can't hate on someone for playing the game better than you. Speaking of Ace, there was a moment where the two of you were kind of going back and forth. And it shot to a backstage moment where I think it was Jaden who was like, yeah, they have real beef.

What did you make of that? I think it's definitely blown out of proportion a lot more than it actually is. I don't think Ace and I really have beef. I mean, we talked after the reunion. Even on the Stand Your Business Challenge, we talked like 10 minutes afterwards. And it was like water under the bridge. I think we're more like, I think guys are more just like, yeah, whatever, you know, move on. Like, it is what it is, you know.

And like, you're just not each other's ride or dies. Yeah, 100%. Like, we're, we're, like, how I've explained it, like, we're all family, you have family members you don't like and family members you do like, but at the end of day, like, you're still family and you're still connected. Like, I always will wish him nothing but the best and nothing but success from like here on now. I just, you know, we just won't hang out. You know what I mean? Speaking of Jaden, obviously that was a topic that came up in a moment where you kind of blanked a little bit. Now that you're here, the pressure's off.

Do you want to speak to like just, you know, post villa you guys left? I thought you guys, you know what, I think what a lot of- You never put her on that yacht. Yeah. You need to get a yacht for her. But like you guys seem like, I think America was like, yeah, these guys work. Because like you, she kind of seems like unsirious. in the best possible way where it's just like you know what man life's too short you guys seem

like a really great couple but could you are you know kind of give some inside or behind baseball like just how things went down post you guys leaving the villa and yeah just kind of clear the air if if if you need to um one suck sorry got to take a sip of water for this i need some water for this getting serious take a minute to think about it um so jaden jaden's an awesome girl I do agree. Her and I are definitely, like, our wavelengths are similar. It's just, it is, at the end of the day, we are in the villa together for no more than like two weeks. Going out of the villa, like, 100% I should have, I should have communicated with her. That is 100% on me. I should have been transparent, should have communicated with her. But there was, I still wanted to get to know her. Like, once we left the villa. And then we were, we got, she was talking about the house party thing where I was coming, where I was going there to come break up with her some shit, which was crazy. Vanna brought that out of note. Vana was saying that, I don't know why Vana. I mean, I know why Vanna was saying that, but Vana was trying to just cause drama.

Just trying to stir the pot. Yeah. I never was going there to do that. I was just going to the party just to go to the party. And then Jaden came up to me. She was like drinking a little bit. And yeah, and she was just saying some stuff that it just turned me off. It just turned me off from wanting to really get to know her and she was very much like in her feels in that moment and honestly I am so bad at talking about relationship things like that I'm uncomfortable like that I don't want to continue like in the past I was 100% a ghoster I am working on it I'm trying to work on it but it's like man sometimes I just don't want to have that conversation like it's like I just don't want to have the conversation with you and you know if

i respect her so it's like i should have given her the respect to have that conversation but i also think she blew it way or out of because she's had the chance multiple times like we've been doing events together we've seen each other she has my number like she can call me anytime none of that energy that she had like in the reunion i never saw any of that previously so if it was actually bugging you as much as it was like you like if it was bugging me that much i would have called you i would have reached on i'd have been like hey this is bothering me but that's what the reunions for so like you know i was gonna say get it out yeah get it out of your system then and but yeah i mean at the end of day i should have been more transparent with her i feel bad but um but yeah it's just it was

hard to come out of that show especially when we're on opposite sides of the country it's just it's hard for me to be serious right now about someone just plain and simple like i i went into the show very much wanting a relationship and then kind of going through it like going through and like actually like date like like like being vulnerable and dating it was like man like i i might need like a little bit time to myself and uh still work on some things so is it a combination of working on things like not ghosting people oh yeah yeah yeah No, like, and I'm getting better at that. It's just, it's not even, yeah, yeah.

Okay. How do you work on not ghosting someone? Just being more in communication, you know, find your integrity, be in integrity and be like, you know, I need to be more communicative. Jaden mentioned, I guess, her saying like, hey, if you want to fuck other people, like, just tell me, so I'm not embarrassed. And then, I guess, made it seem like that's not what you did. Yeah, no, that wasn't that, like, that was a crazy statement by her.

her that definitely wasn't like what she said like oh you can go fuck other people and like I don't that that like wasn't like ever How do you make that call anyways? Hey by the way I'm so I do want to fuck other people like I thought you should know. I support it no I support

that I'm like I feel like that's a fair thing if she's I don't know how she said it but I'm like if she's saying like hey I'm cool with whatever but like just tell me I feel like you could have just said that Yeah no 100% And, but like, if she did say that, like, it would have been like, you know, like, okay, but like, we weren't even at like a stage of where we were like, you know, dating. Yes, we were a love island couple and we left the show off as a couple. But we still left the show very much like, oh, yeah, we're still just getting to know each other. Was it like beating around the bush around the conversation instead of her being as direct as like, oh, if you want to have sex with other people, maybe she like said a few things that she was alluding to the. that yeah but maybe it wasn't as i mean it was it was just like like we're dating around we just

got out it wasn't even like because i i feel like we weren't even serious enough to have like a conversation like that you know what i mean like there wasn't yeah like it just we were there wasn't we weren't serious enough to be having a conversation of like oh like this is what you can do these are my expectations because like it was just like we were still just getting to know each other you know that's why i was so off guard when she was it a weird transition because obviously the show, right? Like, I mean, the show starts with literally them saying, all right, you're going to couple up with someone, right? And then by by the show definition, you're coupled up, whatever that means. And it's weird because like, I'm curious,

like from your perception, is that kind of what you're talking about? Where it's just like, yeah, in the villa, there's these rules of you're coupled up, your, you're exclusive, you're not exclusive. But when you're not, when you leave the villa, it's like you're in the real world is like what is what is coupled up mean in the real world so to 100% and especially if we like if we defined what we were and set our expectations of like leaving and like you know started talking about plans of what we were going to do and how we are going to how we were going to do stuff like how we were going to make the location work and everything and like when we were going to see each other then 100% I get having that conversation

and like you know being a couple of like literally we were just like at the stage of like where you're like going on your first couple dates with someone just getting to know them like because there was so much about jaden that she really wasn't comfortable with talking about on camera and on national tv which completely respect that understand that so there was still a whole side of her that like i didn't like even like really know to an extent like yeah i mean like she she was very she used to be like an investigator so it's like she couldn't talk about her work or anything like she was very mysterious in that way so it was like so there was still like I still didn't know like 50% of you so it's like we're still getting to know each other and there was

that night at that house party and it was just weird it was just weird we just had a weird conversation and it just like really turned me off and in the moment I should have been like you know what this just isn't this just isn't what I see for us like I don't think there's something here for us and let's just move on I didn't say that but what did you do um I was just like you know what we'll talk about this another time you seem you seem like we just need to talk about this another time yeah then you never talked about another time yeah no then i avoided it yeah yeah right okay that part time in addition to working on it right i mean like i guess if we're if we are keeping it real um when you guys leave the villa you guys i mean i don't know what you're what you

thought or what what you thought like going on love island would bring you but it gives you a lot of attention and you're i'm assuming your dms are open Is there a part of you that, like, doesn't want to have a girlfriend because you want to, you know, like, I think a lot of men, you know, and I don't know what you've heard or what you want to say or not say about some of the unfollowing or the rumors circulating about some of the couples that left the villa. But it's a lot of pressure to, you know, leave the villa famous and then have all these women, you know, or men, depending on who you are, like just falling all over you, sliding your DMs, flirting with you, trying to tempt you, and is there a party that's like, I don't want to go for right now because, like, I don't know, I just want to, I don't want to worry about that. And I, I don't want to do something to hurt someone in the long run. And I just want to, like, have fun and meet women and go to parties and, like, not worry about, you know, fucking with someone's

emotions or cheating on them or et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, 100%. You know, there's, there's that. And, like, yes, you know, you want to, I vote. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, said this because it is so different even as an attractive guy even like without the like even before this any of us any of the guys that were on there even as an attractive guy you are still approaching you're still approaching women you're still the approacher beforehand if you're out and you're out and about like you're the you go up to girls and like you know you're trying to pick them up even as an attractive guy you know there's there's like the odd ones out where some will like you know approach you but usually you're on the approach and then so afterwards coming out of that

and then like you are literally just being approaching you like don't have to like really like put in a crazy amount of work like that's that's something that's like crazy to like deal with and I think every single guy that is on the show is kind of like holy shit like that's it is insane that being said i am 26 i do want a family i do like i want kids i want i want all that like so i think it just takes a really special person for me to settle down like at this moment like you know kind of like yes enjoy it but like also and i feel like when you're not specifically looking to get in a relationship that's when something special finds you and um so yeah i'm kind of just living right now. Okay. How much have you added onto your body count since being out of

their love? Not as much as people would think. Not as much as people would think. Was that a real number? Or were you just like answering this questionnaire and just fucking around and just throwing out whatever? I said anywhere from like 90 to 110. It was like yeah, it was like around there. And I think they put an exact number on it. They're like we're going to go with the high one. We're rounding up for sure yeah that yeah but i think um dude i think i think charler and i were the only two that were like fully honest on that whole question there i will say that we had to speak of charlie we had an opportunity to interview him when he got off the show and we were huge fans of him he seemed i've never met him in person yet seems like a great looking guy has a beautiful

british accent what is with it was like the women just on love island do not seem to be interested in that guy. Do you have any idea why that is? I see, I don't know. Like I like I like are you talking about the girls on the show? Yeah. It's like yeah. Even like at the reunion. Hannah was at you know, she was like, yeah, I don't think there's a it's a no for me. And it was like what I seems like really respectable. Like I he again, I haven't met him in person, but the energy he gave is like kind and thoughtful. I'm just like trying to figure out why he's not a hot commodity with with the women of the cast? I'm I don't share on the women of the cast, but they don't, I mean, I know they all find him attractive. I just don't think they find him their attractive, their personal

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you didn't necessarily think it was that funny and you didn't think it wasn't a big deal but yeah you know i think kind of to what andy cohen said like you know how much growing can you do in a month and a half and I mean I know for me I wasn't the most popular person to come off the show Huda was one of the more popular persons and I've had a full schedule so I've not had time

for therapy so I definitely don't know how you have had time for therapy in the last month and a half and have done all this growing but if she has more power to her I mean at the end of day I do like Huda I do like her she's just you know she's been crazy

you know but who doesn't love you know who doesn't love a bit crazy, you know? I, you know, like, like you, what I loved about hood of watching this is she seems to keep it real. And I don't think anyone can take that away from her is that, at least on Love Island, she kept it 100. I don't think she kept it very 100 at the reunion when asked about her relationship and was clearly lying. And then making up all these excuses. If it's like, Netflix definitely isn't stopping her from speaking on her reunion. What did you think of that? We all know that Louis, the guy she is now dating, is on another dating reality TV show.

Which is over. Which is done filming, but it hasn't aired yet. Oh, that one. Yeah, but what did you think of all that? Did you want more accountability in general from Huda? And did you find it as ridiculous as I think everyone did, that she, you know, acted as if, like, she was above it all? And then she posted something later on. It's just like she felt pressured from Ariana and Andy.

they asked several times it's just like she didn't want to speak on her relationship and so like you guys like this show did make you all famous like I hope you guys remember that so to speak as if and now but now she's like too good to like speak about her relationship on the show I don't know what did you think about all that

you know I thought the Netflix comment was for sure you know a little strange for sure but I mean at the end of day if she doesn't want to speak on it she doesn't have to but To the point that you are making, we were on a dating show.

People are interested in your love life. And that guy, I don't know who he is, but he was on a dating show too. So it's like people are interested in his love life as well. So it's like you can't go into something expecting not to be asked about it. I feel like it was just like the lie of it all. It's like, and clearly Netflix is kind of poking fun and being like, don't add us. Like we don't know what's going on. For an employer, Netflix, we can verify.

They will not stop you from speaking about your personal life. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't pay it too much mind. Definitely didn't pay it too much mind. But it's just like, you know, she was pretty PR'd up during the whole thing, I think. I mean, I think that's a pretty fair consensus. And it's not like a shade thing. She just, she was very careful with how she was answering everything.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And yeah. So, I mean, that doesn't make. for too much fun. I think we were all expecting a little more. Okay. You recently came out and said some things weren't shown from like what Amaya has said. Is there anything that you can kind of clear up about that statement?

Well, just like, you know, I think during that stand on business challenge, there was, yes, definitely could have changed my tone. But they didn't show things leading up to thing. Like every time that Zach or I would talk, she'd be like, you fucking pussy, pussy, ass bitch. And so it's like, eventually like, holy shit, stop coming at me. Like, let me talk. And, yeah, so, like, that's like the only thing. But, like, you know, it's water under the bridge. Like, I talked to Amaya the other day.

Like, we're all cool now. But, yeah, like, I mean, there was just, there was a lot that wasn't shown in that, uh, stand on business. chump but it was it was so funny being there oh my gosh but yeah there was a lot not sure are you close with brian at all i'm not that close with brian like we're friends not super like i don't talk to them that often i haven't talked to him yes i don't really know what's going on there did you see the clip of them doing some interview all together and i think it landed on brian of like who was the most attractive family member that came in and he went like on and on and on about hooda sister like sitting right next to a

really i think i did see something about like am i was like some of the rumor was like amaya got rubbed the wrong way for it like bro just plead the fifth yeah yeah you could have like nick's mom you know not to beat a dead horse about the standing on business but you know when it happened i gave you in a lot of the other men's shit because it felt like at least with what we saw that like you guys were piling on amaya where it was like here's this girl crying and you guys were like and this and you did this and I don't know why you do that like can you like shed some light as like did it did it play out a different way or was where you caught up in the moment or like why did it feel like the guys like took that opportunity

to just really let Amaya know all your little ticks and icks about her okay so I think the the reason why I took so long to tell Amaya because I saw how things were went with Ace and then I saw the fallout of that afterwards now everybody has their own experiences everybody goes about things differently so maybe you know it would have happened differently if I would have said like hey you know what like I'm just not feeling this and like you know this that but I was so like it just looked like Ace was going through so much drama after he told Amaya like hey this is what I'm not comfortable with and stuff so then that's why I didn't say anything. And then I feel like, okay, there was the deflection at the reunion,

you know, onto Amaya. Definitely, you know, I think a lot of it was the side. They didn't show a lot of the side comments because any time, like Ace, me or Zach were talking, it was, it was just like, you're a fucking pussy. Like, it just kept going. And it just kept going, like egging on egging on egging on so I think that's why like it one after one thing went out on Amaya everyone was like oh man like I can also say this because if she's gonna get if she's gonna be mad she'll just be mad at all of us so I think like that's kind of how like it went because it was like I like because I truly do I I I love Amaya I really do romantically we do not gel we do not gel but I think

think she is so she's one of the funniest fucking people i've ever met oh my god every single day she was making me laugh my ass off but she does if every single if every guy is saying that you're moving too fast i don't think it's every single every everyone else and i do think and i think she just has a lot of love in her and she saw you know shelly and a she saw nick and sierra when you know Sierra was in the thing and she saw like how strong of a bond they had and like the time you know she saw the bond they had but was kind of forgetting the time it took to get there and wanted just wanted it right away. She wanted like latch on right away and she wanted you guys like and it's like not everybody can do that. I like I mean I know I can't do that and um but yeah

so then I mean yes definitely it was not it was not a good look of us going at Amaya and we shouldn't have gone at her. But there was also a lot not shown of, and it made us look a lot worse than probably if the full thing was shown, it'd be like, oh, like, they're still dicks, but like I see how you got to that point. Like before it was like, okay, you just didn't see how we got to that point, if that makes sense.

Yeah, yeah. When you got sent home, Elandria was the only one who had your back, which I thought was just a really charming moment. And it's those moments where you maybe there's a bond or a friendship revealed that we didn't really get to see as much. And so it clearly, I mean, the fact that O'Andrea had your back, there was clearly a bond in her friendship. Can you speak to that friendship that you guys developed in the villa? And is that something you've been able to maintain outside of the villa now that Nick and O'Andrea are a thing and I'm sure focusing on their relationship?

Yeah. So O'Landria was the first person in the villa that I opened up to. too. Because I went in, Jeremiah Ace, Nick, all of them have done acting, modeling, social media, some of that stuff before where they've been in front of a camera. Like, I watched my first episode and I haven't watched anything else because I was so, like, cringed out by myself. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I just looked like I was deer in headlights. And so I was having such a hard time connecting with those guys at first. And, like, just because, like, we just came from two different worlds. Like, I mean, I was working a blue collar.

job and so it was just it was so weird at first and then so i talked to elangia and like she just she got like we just got each other to open up so easily like she's just she's such a great friend and she's super understanding and uh she gives great advice too but yeah i mean her and i had so many like conversations that i guess weren't shown of like just like you know always being there for each other always checking in on each other making sure each other's okay like i mean and And she was the one, she, like, told the guys, like, she was like, Austin's a good guy. You guys better, like, pick him feel out. She was going to ride. She was riding for me when I wasn't even, like, around there. It was like, it just, it shows, like, just who she is. She's such an

awesome, awesome, awesome woman. Yeah. So then, when she stood behind me, it meant so much. Like, it was, it was super cool. One thing that people don't know, I did it, like, because there was a few guys that were going to stay behind me. I wanted to go home so bad. I was so ready to go home. I wanted to leave so, so, so bad. And yeah, just because all my friends kept leaving, I was just kind of done. And if Jaden wasn't going to be there, then it was like only one of us were going to stay. So then if Jaden was going to leave, then or like I was going to like, I wouldn't want to be there like without even having a connection. The one connection I finally did find left. And then it'd be like, okay, I wouldn't want to be here anyways. Yeah. So yeah, before we were going, I was like, if it comes

down to a vote, please none of you guys stand behind. Please, none of you. Yeah. So that's why people are like oh see none of the guy stood behind austin for this that reason none of them was still behind me because i fucking asked them not to stand behind me because zach was fighting me on a tooth and nail and i was like please do not and uh like i was thinking about the pasta bowl nays as soon as i figured out as soon as i figured out that like okay this is going to be down to a vote i was like oh posta boulnays at the hotel god i can't wait to sleep in like oh my gosh i can't wait to get back maybe smoke a little weed or something and um like that i just i got so excited excited for what was to come. I was like, oh, my God. Thank God. And, uh, yeah. So, but yeah,

having O'Landria stand behind me, though, oh, fucking A. Like that, it felt, it felt so cool. It was a great moment. Yeah. I just, you know, and thanks for shedding that light and that and giving us that behind the scenes. But yeah, it just, I think Alandra has been a fan favorite for, she's been a huge favorite of ours, America's, but like, I just always love, especially in reality TV, and I've said this as someone who's been on it before and talking about Love Island. It's such a high school environment where it's just like the bully is the house. It's the majority. It's, it's so scary to be an outsider. You know, it's so scary to like, you know, see the majority go one way and to think differently the majority and stand on your own. And I think that represented

like Olandria's like braveness and who she is. And it was just a cool moment to see. And I'm glad we got to see it even though you wanted to go home and smoke a little weed and eat some pasta. Yeah, yeah. Is there any light you could shed on the unfollowing of Iris and Pepe or, you know, T.J's been kind of trolling us with some. Oh, my God. Fingernails that look shockingly similar to Iris's. Did you see the TJ's TikTok where you didn't, like, put any caption on it? The wing?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was iconic. That was great. I was like, what's that audio? That was great. Yeah. It was great. But, yeah, I mean, and then, like, it was iconic.

Like the next day, Brian and Amaya unfollow each other. There seems to be like a clear division with some of the cast. I mean, what I think is, I think we had the reunion too soon. I don't think it makes sense to have a reunion basically a month after. I mean, because obviously it's been two weeks since the reunion's been filmed and everything has fallen to shit. So, you know what I mean? But do you think they were waiting to film the reunion to then in their relationships? See, I don't know if it was planned like that.

I think it happened like that. But I think the reunion should be like three, four months down the line. Do you know what happened in either of those relationships? I have no idea what happened in either. I haven't talked to Brian or Amaya since that my mom was, my mom's way too on this shit. My mom knows out. What does your mom thing happen? They always do.

My mom was asking me what happened. And I'm like, you're telling me that this happened. I didn't even know what happened. But, yeah, no, I'm not sure on the Brian and Maya thing. I haven't talked to either of them since it happened. I've talked to Iris a little bit. I'm not really sure, you know, what's going down. I'll let her speak on that.

But, yeah, I think the reunion should have waited. I think they should have filmed it, you know, later on. Are you team Pepe or Team Iris currently? Um It's like The information that you know If you had to pick If you had

Yeah If I had to pick I would I would be wearing a team Irish shirt With team Pepe on the pack You're like a parent With like Travis And Jason

Kelci I'm team both of them You know I want the best for both of them But um Yeah but I do You know I don't know what happened there Okay.

Do you feel like they'll be cool or do you feel like there's a little bit of hurt feelings, at least for anyone? I mean, I'm sure everything will, you know, and I'll be all fine. I'm sure, you know, feelings are all over. Iris seems, obviously, we talked to her and she was like very made it very clear that she's not a drama girl. She's like, I don't want to be in drama. I don't like talking about drama. She's just like, that's just not me. So it seems like something that we're not going to get like some big tell.

law from Iris. She's not going to, like, drag this out. I feel like eventually her and Pepe will be cool because she just doesn't need the drama in her life. I very much feel like she's that kind of girl. Yeah, no, I agree. She's definitely, she's definitely one of the least drama people, like ever. She's very... But she's human to human, I really respect, but as a host of a show that has a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what's next for you, Austin? Like, you know, obviously a lot of people go on these shows. There's a whole career that, you know, you know, they unveil, they're doing lives, they're doing deals. I mean, and listen, you're not going to hear from me as someone who's made an entire career

off of going on reality TV because I feel like a lot of times it feels like a loaded question. Like, do you want to be famous, you know? Like, but like you also seem to be like a down-to-earth guy. What do you want to do with this, if anything at all? And what is next for you? I really want to get in comedy. So I, my friends and I, like, growing up, like in high school and stuff, I went to an all-boys boarding school growing up.

So it's like, you know, you're all, boys, when they're all together with just other boys, they come up with really stupid things. But so we'd, like, fake, write these, like, screenplays and stuff and, like, little skits. And so, yeah, I'm going to do with a couple back home buddies, but I want to do just, like, little YouTube skits, stuff like that, again, to, like, some animation, like, yeah, adult animation, like, adult sitcom animation, like, family guy, Rick and Morty type stuff. But yeah, I definitely want to go, like, comedy route. Maybe stand-up.

I just, I don't know. I do, like, storytelling stand-up or something. I don't know. That would be cool. I love that for you. Yeah. Stay in the comedy sector, though, for sure. I'd love to make it in that world.

Who are some of your favorite comics? Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, Ari Sheffir. Oh, we had Ariad. Yeah, I love Ariya. He's super funny. I really want to meet him. Kill Tony, of course. I mean, what he's built is fucking insane.

Yeah, and then Cat Williams is pretty funny. I like him on podcast better than I like his stand-up. I know you're a big Jersey Shore fan. I am. When I first met Natalie, she was a normie. And I brought her to the MTV unscripted awards. And I wasn't a big Jersey Shore fan, but we sat at the table with the entire cast of Jersey Shore.

And I've never seen Natalie freak out so much because she was like, oh, my God, I'm obsessed with these people. And like, I was like, I was like, you know, if you were Jay Wow. We have since become friends with J. Wow. She came to our wedding. But yeah, like you're big fans. Have you got a chance to talk to any of them? I think. So I've talked to Angelina a little bit, DM back and forth to me. I've talked to Polly. I love Pauly D. I am a huge Pauly D fan. I've been a Pauley D fan forever. I think he's, he's iconic. He's the OG reality TV guy. But yeah, I'm trying to do something. with him we're trying to work it out figure our schedules and see if you know we can line something up

but yeah yeah i've talked to him i'd love to talk to mike too mike seems like a really cool guy same of any but um yeah i'm a big polly fan and uh yeah he hit me up after the show and it was i felt i felt pretty cool almost 20 years ago when i lived in milwaukee before i did any of this bullshit i was at a tanning salon um and it was like the middle of winter and i was about to let go on vacation and if you're from wisconsin like that was if you went to florida you would go to the tanning salon and polly d was in there because it was doing some dj set um and like all the women in the tanning salon were like freaking out and uh i just remember being like oh shit that was that was that was a random thing it was like 20 years ago yeah no it's so funny like because even like okay so like even

going out like in the public and stuff like girls speak oh my god it's awesome blah then they're like boyfriend or like brother will be standing you like who the fuck is that you know what i mean it's so funny because like it's like that that definitely like i'm that guy but i'm also that guy that's being holy shitted now so it's kind of crazy i'm bold look at you full circle love island games i don't know if you could tell us if you're on the next season if you're not is that something do you want to come back and do reality tv again are you like one and done and you want to focus maybe on a possible comedy career? I mean, I would do like Survivor or like wipeout or something shit. I don't know about the rain. All right. Well, Austin, really appreciate you taking the time, man. Where can people follow you or

anything you want to plug before we let you go? Yeah, Instagram, Austin underscore Shep 3, TikTok, Scott Dissick, Stan 12, Scott Dissick, I want to meet you, Scott. God, please someone connecting with Scott Dissick. I really want to meet them. And then YouTube I just started at ShepTV3. There we go. Okay. Nice. Well, thank you guys for listening. We want to thank Austin for coming on. Be sure to check out our other episodes this week. We have Love Thy Nader. The Nader's sisters going deeper episode that was out yesterday. Be sure to check that out if you haven't already. Should we play six degrees of separation before we lost it and go with Scott Dissick to see how we can hook up Austin and Scott Dissick? Is that what you want to do, Leah?

Austin Shepard appeared on Love Island, USA. Love Island contestants often attend reality TV after parties with other Bravo slash MTV stars. Larsa Pippin, who also has connections to multiple reality TV events, has attended parties with Love Island cast members. Larsa Pippin is close friends with the Kardashian family. Well, as we know, Larsa had a big falling out with the Kardashians, so this seems to be a little out of date, but maybe they've made amends and I just don't know about it. is part of the Kardashian family circle and regularly appears at events with Larsa. So Larsa Pippen. There you go there.

She's your end. That's your connect. Slide in Larson's DMs. I don't know Larson. She's a housewife. She was a housewife. Isn't she doing other stuff now? She is a housewife.

She's also the ex-wife of Scotty Pippen and then dated Michael Jordan's son. That's what it was. It was on traders. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Larson. Austin, appreciate you coming on, buddy. We wishing you the best of luck with everything you're doing going forward. And we'll hopefully get a chance to meet you in person soon, bud. Yeah, I hope so,

man. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate you guys. Bye, Austin. And by all. We'll see you next week.