The Viall Files - E997 - Bravo Spill Sesh w/ Justin Sylvester, The Paper w/ Ramona Young, Philly Baseball Karen, RHOC & RHOM

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:15 natalie what natalie natalie i don't know if that was that hard for you beforehand or well we welcome all of you to the show hope you had a great week and i had a fantastic week and fall is in the air the seasons are changing if uh in most parts of this country uh in the parts that we were in it was a delightful brisky 50 degrees out in the morning and football season is upon us our my green midpackers are really really good very exciting mary your erin rogers looked pretty good yeah i got a i got to i was a little hesitant It feels very odd to have Aaron Rogers be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but not mad at it.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah. Not mad at it whatsoever. It's really exciting. I'm living my best life. My brewers, I don't know who listening cares, but I'm excited. My wife watches sports with me. It's really, it's really great. It's one of my favorite things.
Starting point is 00:03:14 One of my two favorite things about Natalie, of many, but just one of two. Again, that she enjoys, she enjoys spending the time with me. She doesn't fake her interest. Like, she's not one of those. who like pretends to be like a major sports fan but she just enjoys the energy and also the way she can nurse an alcoholic drink is incredible. I made a I made a some we made with brazed short rib tacos so I got it all cooked up and to break make some braised short ribs you have you use some wine so I opened up some wine poured it in Natalie decided to feel frisky cleaning the house at like
Starting point is 00:03:48 noon. Here's an open bottle of wine. Yeah, pot herself a glass of wine. She finished that seven hours later. Awesome. It was really, really attractive. I was also cleaning in between and taking care of a child and, you know, so I didn't really have the time to like gulp. But yes, I do nurse a drink. I do also think some people won't agree with you that fall is in the air. Like, I feel like a lot of people say that fall doesn't start until October. Well, in our house, it starts as soon as Natalie goes to Target and buy some Halloween decor, which is all over. I went to Home Goods this year because Target had nothing, slim pickens. And home goods, honestly, like, it's just the place to go for holiday decor. First of all, it's, like, not expensive. You know, it's not crazy expensive.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Their prices have actually kind of gone up recently. But you can find, like, the fun things for kids. They have, like, you know, rivers obsessed with cats. And so I could, I found a cat in a witch's hat and she's like, loves it. She's like, meow, meow. She loves it. And so it was just, like, fun to finally decorate for, I feel like once you become a mom to decorate for holiday, It's just, like, so much fun. Yeah. Because you can just, like, go crazy. Anyway, my Packers looking good.
Starting point is 00:04:57 RIP to Detroit Lions fans out there, I feel like you missed your window. And ladies out there, if you're in the Michigan area and you're, if your man or brother or whoever in your life, maybe it's you. I don't know. As a fan of Detroit Lions, ask them if they're worried if they missed their window. Because I think they did. Someone actually messaged me the last time we did this. I wish I could find her name if you're listening to this. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But she was like, this did not work. Whenever Nick was like, text your man, this, she like sent me a screenshot of her texting her boyfriend or husband or partner or whatever. And he literally was like, what are you even saying? Like, shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. And she was like, wait, this backfired. She had to sell it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 No, he just, he sounds like a dick. He sounds like a dick. No, I just don't think he, like, believed that she was, like, committed to the bit. Yeah. I feel like he probably thought she heard it. He probably thought she heard it on a podcast. He probably was like, what guys have you been hanging out with? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Two have you been around? She's like, hey, this backfired. So now he thinks of cheating and he broke up with me. Who here was a Land Before Time fan? I was. Yeah. So sad, though. Very sad.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Very emotional movie. I introduced it to the river last night. She's into it. Oh. Tree stars, the Great Valley. Long necks and three horns. Oh, my God. Wait, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Wait, what is everyone's favorite dinosaur? Go. Tricerat. Huge. Yep. Yeah, probably a triceratops. You know, I don't have one. I don't know, I don't either, but I love this.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I like, I love a brontosaurus. You know, that's seen in Jurassic Park where Laura Derns, he's that brontosaurus die. It's very impactful for me. What's the one with the long neck? That's a bronthosaurus. Or bronchosaurus? Broncosaurus and brontosaurus. Oh my God, wait, this is reminding me of this crazy TikTok.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So I saw this TikTok of this mom sitting with her four-year-old daughter. And the four-year-old daughter has like a baby. in her mouth or something. And the mom is like, since y'all wanted to come for me for my almost four-year-old, like, still having a pacifier and, like, saying that her speech is going to be messed up for the rest of her life. Like, I'm here to prove to y'all that she speaks better than most 30-year-olds. And so then she's like, what's your name? And she starts, like, interviewing the little girl to, like, get her to speak for the camera. Her daughter. And then the, yeah, her daughter is, like, getting a little shy. You know, she's not really
Starting point is 00:07:13 answering many questions. And she's like, don't be shy. No one can see you. Like, this is just a camera. She's like, what are your favorite dinosaurs? Triceratops? And the girl, like, nods her head. She's like, okay, can you say triceratops? And it's just like the most, like, you shouldn't have post that. Like, that did not prove your point at all. And like, when the girl did speak. And, like, Ritter has it too, you know, the little binky mouth. I think it's actually kind of cute. The teeth, whatever. Like, we're all going to get braces or Invisaline one day or veneers, you know. Yeah. So, like, who cares? But she, like, definitely, like, everyone in the comments is like, no babe like her speech is fucked up
Starting point is 00:07:50 okay but like what are you doing trying to prove your point of like it was just the saddest video ever she's like coaching her through everything she's like okay now your turn to say it did you guys see the Karen from hell at the Philadelphia Marlins game that's gone super
Starting point is 00:08:07 viral I just saw that this morning and I'm like speaking of backfiring I mean like this is like the definition of horrible people out there For those of you who don't know or who have been offline this weekend, at a, at a, at a, it was in, it was in Florida. So the Philadelphia Phillies were playing the Florida Marlins. And apparently in Miami, there are some Philadelphia fans. And a young family brought their son to the game. Apparently it was his birthday. And they were in the outfield hoping to catch a home run, which, which for any parent or kid out there, like if you're going to a baseball game, you bring your glove in the hopes that you can catch. a fall ball. I've never in my life caught a fall ball as a kid. It was, it's a moment for any kid out there. It's truly a magical moment. Philadelphia Phillies were batting and wouldn't you know it, they hit a home run. And it, you know, so the rules of it's like sports etiquette, it's like
Starting point is 00:09:06 it's a free for all, right? And so this ball lands in the row in front of this Karen, you know, this like, I don't know how old she was, but north of 50, Corrella DeVille. haircut, had the whole like umbra, like silver on top, black on the bottom. She had the Karen glasses on. The ball lands in front of her. Do we have a video of this, Justin? We do. In case you're, if you're watching, if you're listening, go out and check out the YouTube. Well, you've probably seen it. Just like just literally Google Karen and she's the number one trending Karen online. The ball lands right in front of her play. And pause it. So now if you see like it lands right in front like it's it's it's not in this woman's row it's a free for all this
Starting point is 00:09:52 dad runs over from his seat now he had to go about 20 feet from his seat the ball landed closer to karen's seat than dad's seat anyways he got it he's excited press play he picks it up gives it to his son it's his birthday hugs his son Karen runs over grabs the dad now pause it in this moment I don't know what you're thinking, what you're feeling. Maybe she's mad that another middle-aged man stole the ball from her and she thinks she's entitled to it. But in this moment where she sees the dad give the ball to the boy, any human being with half a soul would have been like, you know what, not my day.
Starting point is 00:10:31 You know what? Happy birthday to this kid. But no, she proceeds to, like, argue with this guy, get in his face. There's other angles of her just being like, you stole it from me. It's my ball. Right in front of this little kid, finally this dad's like, you know what? I don't want to deal with your energy. And he takes the ball from his son and gives it to the Karen who like storms off like a fucking like gallum from Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like, rush, it's got the ball. Anyways, then like everyone around is booing her. Everyone just like knows how horrific this is. Most of the time, you know one of the most heart roaming videos out there and you can find it anywhere are moments where these balls, home run balls, fall balls, whatever, at baseball, baseballs go into the stands and like grown men catch the ball and they're excited. And then they look around to find a kid and then give it to the kid and like make their day magical.
Starting point is 00:11:31 But this fucking Karen is so horrific that she just didn't care. And then she starts flipping off people in the stand who are like, lady, you're a horrible, wretched person and she like didn't back down. Meanwhile, now she's the most hated person in America. But don't worry, this little boy, he's okay because like the Marlins, they saw this. They came to him, someone who worked for the team. They gave him a bunch of baseballs. And the Philadelphia Phillies found out about it. And the very player who hit the home run met the kid's entire family, gave a kid a sign bat, a baseball. He's since been invited to the World Series by MLB all because of this
Starting point is 00:12:13 just wretched person. And we just had the dad speak out, right? Oh my God. It's just like you don't have a soul. This is the kid getting a bag of like memorabilia from the Marlins. It's just like oh my God. Like what kind of horrible
Starting point is 00:12:29 person do you have to be? Wait, what did the dad say? The dad said I was already ecstatic. Like got Bader's home run ball and I get to put it in my son's glove and that was, it was already enough. You know, and then, then here she comes. Something touched my, something touched my arm.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And then she just screamed in my ear. That's my ball. Like, so loud. There's kind of a fork in the road. Like, I'm going to go one direction and then probably regret or go this direction and do something in front of my kids that, you know, like a teaching moment. So I guess he was trying to be the bigger person. Some assholes online were criticizing the dad.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But, like, no, I think the dad handled it great. Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely a teachable moment. about like how to not to be just a wretched soulless horrible person yeah honestly like it's your like it's but the thing that was like shocking me is like she's there with we're assuming her husband you know a male friend a male someone close to her that she went to this game with and they're just like watching her not even just approach this man and his son who got the ball but then like go scream in several other people's faces and it's like how are you with that person
Starting point is 00:13:40 I would like the way that I would hold on to Nick's hand and like keep him in a seat and be like don't you dare get up and the way that he's just like sure go yell at them I guess like she did this up the raise game yeah I don't think this is her first defense yeah also on Marlins game crazy again I Nick made me I was trying to read my book the other night and he made me watch 900 videos of people giving their ball away to the kids And I was like, oh, it's heartwarming. He's like, oh, wait, no, this is the one. I'm like, okay. Natalie, he wanted to make sure that he was never put in the position where he has to sit there while you steal balls in face. Literally. I just like, don't ever be.
Starting point is 00:14:21 No, anytime we watch something or there's a story that comes out of like a wife turning crazy, Nick's always like, please don't. How do you feel about this behavior and like, don't? Well, listen, I get like all the ladies, you know, you got to have that mama line energy, you know, for the right time. You know, Natalie has it inside of her, and I really appreciate it that it's there. But, like, you know how to, you need to know how to turn it off. This, like, again, I get that. No, I would have marched over there.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I mean, like, you took my, and then if he was like, if I watched him give it to his son, I would have been like, oh, it's for the kid. Oh, never. Well, first of all, baseball etiquette, like, she just doesn't know. Like, she was not entitled to it. Just because it landed closer to her than anyone else, hey, you got to be quick on your feet. You got to go get that ball. Like, I think she said you took it out of my hand.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But he literally did it. Like, she bent over. and he snatched it from her and it was it dropped in the row in front of her. Wait, if you snatched it from her or did not take it out of her hand? I didn't look like he took it out of her hand. It looked like she was the closest to it. She thought it was hers. It was right there.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And then he came and took it before she could grab it. There's also like multiple people reaching for this ball, which is how it goes. Whoever leaves with it gets it. Have you guys ever seen 30 Rock? Anyone? Yes. This is very Liz Lemon coded. Like this seems like something that would happen to Tina Fey's Liz Lemon.
Starting point is 00:15:35 where she would really try to get that ball and then she would become the most hated person in the world because of it. You think Liz Lemon would have been, it was Liz Lemon a Karen? Yes. Ugh. Yeah, rewatch 30.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I mean, it's in a very funny way, but she's always getting herself into these situations where she's like, based on a technicality, I'm in the right, and everyone was like, you suck. That's kind of the thesis of 30 Rock. Do you all think Kyle's mom is okay? Yeah, by the way, Kyle's mom, Karen,
Starting point is 00:16:03 we love you and this is not about you. I saw something kind of funny the other day where Madison LaCroix from Southern Charm, she posted a video from her ring camera of the FedEx people. She ordered like some huge box, fragile. And she shows them just like kicking the box over and just like leaving it like feet in front of her house. And so she posted about it and she said FedEx made contact after I unleashed my inner Janet. And I think it's funny she's taking back Karen and changing it to Janet like the valley. Well, did you notice when Katie was on. our reality recap last week. She goes, there's another person and didn't name her. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:39 Janet. Crazy. Damn it. Janet. See, I don't think that's, I don't think that's being a Karen or a Janet, whatever you want to call it. Like, sometimes, you know, like, listen, if you are, if you're a solicitor, do not show up at our door. Because Nally will destroy you. Yeah. I will. Yeah. If River's napping, she'll destroy you. And unfortunately, one got through the other day, and he knocked on the door. And I thought it was my brother-in-law. And so I was, like, excited, you know, like ran to the door, opened it. And I was like, oh. And he was like, hey, I'm not here to pitch you.
Starting point is 00:17:12 They always say that. And then they continue to pitch you. And I was like, oh, yeah, sorry. And then River escapes through the front door. And she's out now. She's outside. And I was like, oh, no, sorry. And I, like, went to go get River.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And then she was, like, running away from me. And so then I was, like, stuck out there with this solicitor who wouldn't, like, stop pitching while I'm, like, chasing River. Do you have home insurance? And he's like, the pest control. So, yeah, like, we'll get all the spiders, all the mosquitoes for only $150 a year. And I'm like, oh, that sounds so cool. Like, sure, yeah, come by tomorrow. He's like, all right, is it going to be credit or debit?
Starting point is 00:17:47 And I'm like, well, wait a second. I'm not giving you any card info. What? And it was, yeah, so he caught me because it's not a good price of all. Invade someone's personal space or their home. Sometimes you've got to defend your family. And then what I love so much is that our neighborhood has a group chat. And so I got to text the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:18:04 it was finally my turn to text them and say solicitor coming around about fast control. And I can't work. The neighborhood watch. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Anyway. Oh, wait, did you guys hear White Lotus season four location announced? And it is France.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I can't wait. Okay. It's giving season two. Somewhere in France. You know, he likes a warm climate. It says the French Riviera. I'm sure they'll do some things in the city too. It's always a four seasons, right?
Starting point is 00:18:34 right? So it has to be anywhere. It's always a white lotus. Captain Luck or whatever, the big one. They're based on four seasons. I was just kind of continuing the idea of the show. You know, I was in the world. I wonder if Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles are dating and are planning a vacation to France. Aren't they in Europe somewhere? Canoelling?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Somewhere, yeah. Probably. She's really on a heater. She's what? She's a, now she's dating Mary Style. She was hanging out with. with her co-star. No. Her roster, Channing Tatum,
Starting point is 00:19:08 Austin Butler, Harry Styles. Penn Badgley. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, yeah. Wait, yeah, yeah. My dream date. Cute. Wait, let's see.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I looked up Zoe Kravitz's roster and it showed me her acting position. No, we don't care about her acting. Zoe Kravitz body count. Let's see. This is Drake, A-Sap Rocky. Carl Glassman. Chris Pine.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Chris Pine? Sometimes I just feel like, people be putting things online because they were standing next to each other? Wait, no, I feel like it's more recent. No, there was someone else that was recent, right? Yeah. Carl Gussman was beautiful. Channing Tatum.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Here's the thing. When you're Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonnet's daughter, she's doing the work of her. Yeah, like, that's what she should be doing is dating all of these. What do you think a bad day it looks like for her? When more than one man texts her? A bad day.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Honestly, a bad day for her is probably the best show in the world, which was Hulu's High Fidelity series starring Zoe Kravitz got canceled. And I'm still really sad about it, and I think Hulu should bring it back. Michael Fassbender? Michael Fassbender?
Starting point is 00:20:16 That's a crazy man. He's hot, too. Penn Badgley, Chris Pine, Carl Gussman, Channing Tatum, and Harry Stiles are all the people that she's rumored to have, like, a relationship. And the thing about Channing Tatum is he got hotter when he started dating. Obviously. Yes. I respected. She's hot.
Starting point is 00:20:31 They all do. It's powerful. Anyway, yeah. I was like, even Harry Styles looks a little better to me with her. Zoe Kravitz's boyfriend's list is trending on TikTok. I mean, she's impressive. Yeah. And think about the people that, like, she didn't even actually, like, commit to being out in public with. And she also just, like, looks so, like, obviously these men are hot.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Obviously, Zoe Kravitz is hot. But, like, she just looks so cool all the time. She's on the back of a motorcycle with Chaney Tatum. She's, like, she's just such a cool chick. I know. Do I need a motorcycle? No. No.
Starting point is 00:21:05 No. So I should stick with the roller skates? Yes. We love that for you. Those are my wheels. I'm like Natalie Joy looked so badass on the back of the Knicks roller skis. Like I'm pulling her. Yeah, you need to be on roller skates and just like holding on to Nick's like belt.
Starting point is 00:21:23 That's kind of cute though. It's cute. Wait, you guys, if you could be one like random famous person for a day, who would it be? I think mine's either Zoe Kraviss or Duolupia. Dula Pete? Wait, who was my options? Well, those are just my two. If you could be any like random,
Starting point is 00:21:39 not even just like any random person for a day. I'm Duelipa for sure. She's like living the like wishless lifestyle. Yeah, you're just on vacation and beautiful with a hot boyfriend. Yeah. I'd probably pick Harry Styles. I think like the the excitement of like performing on stage and having the crowd lose your mind when you come out.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I don't think there's very few cooler moments. as someone who knows what it's like to like 1% of that experiencing 1% of that as like the Bachelor when you like walk out into like a local crowd and there's 50 people cheering even that kind of exciting I couldn't imagine what it would be like to have an entire like arena
Starting point is 00:22:15 losing your mind as you perform and sing and people are just like ah like that's got to feel pretty fucking cool also knowing when you open your mouth that something great's going to come out like sounding yeah did you guys see the video of Harry Sell trying to park a car like a couple weeks ago and then he couldn't parallel park it for the fan,
Starting point is 00:22:32 so he just gave up. Oh my God, he's like John Barlow. Yeah. Wait, he was helping. He was trying to. They were struggling to parallel parks.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Then he was like, I got it. Like, I got you. And then he tried to do it. And then couldn't do it. And then he was like, well,
Starting point is 00:22:43 I tried. And then they walked away. Wait, I want to name mine because I want to be either Sarah Jessica Parker for a day because, like, fashion icon and like amazing New Yorker and Carrie Broadshaw. Or it would be Andy Cohen.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Because like, hello. I have every housewife's number. I can ask any question I want. And he's mega rich. any question he's this more like hey do he could make them do anything he's a puppet master
Starting point is 00:23:06 and he's also hanging out with Sarah Jessica Parker but I'm just thinking he could just pick up the phone and be like hey and get like any answer right then and there versus like having to like research or watch the show or like get dinner with them or drinks of them exactly he also did a random thing he did an interview
Starting point is 00:23:23 recently where he said that he just takes car rides from anybody so like if he can't get a like a cab in time he'll just like a fan will see him on the street and he'll be like well like can you take me that's how you use fame but also that's kind of maybe how I started reading misery
Starting point is 00:23:38 the Stephen King book I'm like that's how that starts literally that's okay pitch for a reboot of misery it's Andy Cohen and someone's car he gets into in a Bravo super fan if Andy Cohen ever goes missing I feel like we know he was kidnapped
Starting point is 00:23:53 do you remember when people were just hitchhike that's crazy I did it once it is crazy it's even crazier knowing that it was like it's actually probably safer to do it now than it was back in the day. I know, but no one does it. Yeah. All the predators are on love.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Did any of you ever try to run away? I know Nick didn't. He was such an age. One time I like, I like was like, I'm going to run away. And then I went like a block down in my gated neighborhood. And I was like, it's too scary.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And then I went back home. I made it to my aunt's house, but she was a snitch. And I love her. I didn't even have a bad day. I just wanted to be like dramatic and emo. I let I ran away. And I, like, went up the street and got tired.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So I sat on the curb. And then I had sat in an ant pile. Oh, no. And you had to go back. I'd be like, Mom, there's ants everywhere. I also can confirm that this year that Andy Cohen on Colbert did say that he will accept a ride from a stranger. There have been many times I've been looking for a cab unsuccessfully. And people have pulled over and said, Andy Cohen, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:24:55 And I'm, like, 23rd Street. And they say, hop in. Don't you? Kathy Bates has one role left in her career and it's the misery reboot starring Andy Cohen and her Has he ever documented this?
Starting point is 00:25:10 No, but I'm sure the fans have. There's got to be like Get out alive, you know? I bet so many people have like dropped him off after the fact and thought to themselves like how the fuck did I not take a video being like because they're so like oh my God this is actually happening.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Well, they're driving. Right, they're driving. But it's also like this is happening where it's like usually when you see somebody on the street or something they would like ask for a and keep it moving where it's like, no, no one's going to believe that I gave Andy Cohen a ride to work. Also, he's waiting for a cab. Isn't what Uber Black is for? Andy Cohen doesn't have like a driver?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Right. Yeah. But New Yorkers are different. That's true. They love a cab. They're cool. True, I guess. Well, we have a great episode lined up for you.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Moments from now, Justin Sylvester will be joining us returning to the Vial Files and talk all things. Bravo. I imagine Justin was at Kyle and Maricio's daughter's wedding. Oh, yeah. probably right it must have been there's no way he wasn't invited he's like kiles bestie anyways maybe we'll get some tea about the the bravo royal wedding really plus all we'll get into some real housewives of oc and miami with just and sevester also we have joining the show later this episode from the new hit show the paper we got romani young
Starting point is 00:26:21 joins us to talk about the paper the new uh let's the office spin off it's really funny uh and she is with us to talk about that experience, what it was like to be part of what is sure to be a new hit show on Peacock. That is all coming up. Before we get into that, though, they did release the promo of the new golden women who will be vying for the heart of the guy who wants to date 40-year-olds. I wonder how many of them are 40. So we get to see all the women that they, that I guess, really kind of made it over
Starting point is 00:26:54 your mom. Truly. Whoa. is this the promo yeah is this all the women or some of them i would assume it's all of them because it says meet the women okay here we go that was so cute it was really cute they looked great it looks like a really great cast well what's his name of the golden bachelor mel mel mel we don't care about him yeah mel owens i don't care about him i'm here for the divas i mean there's 158 year old, most of them seem to be in their 60s. You have a couple early 70s. I wonder
Starting point is 00:27:27 I did that on purpose. He's like, I won't date anyone. If they're over than 60, they're cut. And they're like, okay, well, can you're cut off her? Any favorites off that video? I mean, my favorite part about the golden woman is that I feel like they know who they are. Yeah. It's like, they come in being like, I can diffuse a bomb versus like when you watch a normal bachelor, it's like a girl being like, you know, I love a man that does this. Like, I love gummy bear. Yeah, like, they're like more cutesy and like, but the golden women are coming with like, I know who I am. Life experience. I have done shit. I am not scared of this.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I feel like the golden... Like golden bachelorette didn't really land as much for me because like the beauty of the golden franchise is just watching like a lot of older women just like live their lives and become friends. And that's what I loved about the first season of Golden Bachelor. I was like I don't care about what was his name.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Carrie. I also just love a mom. Well, it looks like some great women. We'll see how they interact with Mel. I'm really curious how it's... I mean, I just, like, I can't believe they didn't replace them, to be honest with you. It's kind of crazy that, like, the only thing that came about that was him, didn't he have some, like, bullshit PR statement?
Starting point is 00:28:33 And that was, like, it? Did he? I don't even think he did that. I mean... There was something that came out, whether it was from Bachelor or from him. Jesse Palmer made a comment about, like, well, definitely have to talk to a mod when we start filming. So they're like, which is almost even dumber to awkwardly address it. I don't know how you...
Starting point is 00:28:49 Also, like, his, I mean, his ex-wife's... like my age who said like good luck i don't want anything part of any part of it it's just a weird you know for for this franchise it's just a weird casting but the women look great they seem great excited to see how they come across on uh end of september so we'll see how that goes coming up next justin sylvester returns of the show to talk about all things bravo i'm assuming he was in attendance at alexia omanski's the daughter of kyle and maricio who got married, I think over the weekend or recently. It's certainly a
Starting point is 00:29:25 Bravo Royal Wedding and we're excited to hear about that. Plus get into the Real Housewives of O.C. and Miami with Justin following our dynamic interview with Katie that was well received by Bravo Nation. I think she really acquitted herself quite well and I think
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Starting point is 00:32:17 Thank you for having me back. You miss you. No need to thank us. Thank you for coming back. You're always a delight. By the way, I thought you only had like white ladies from Hulu on here now. I thought you were like exclusively white ladies from Hulu. I keep on seeing them pop up here.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Well, you know. We do love them as well. We love them as well. Yeah. And they feel safe. Our heart is big. But now we are a Netflix family. Now, Natalie and I are a host of the new Netflix.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Age of Attraction. Age of Attraction. Age of Attraction. So stop. We got stalled. Yeah. Shut up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But we got, we got, we got, we got networks fighting for us and Netflix took over. Damn. Yeah, Netflix one. I can't wait for, like, Hulu to get in a gay game. Like, it is going to be, when Hulu realizes that a gay black man could ask any question he wants to anyone at any time at any place. Yeah. Because that's why Wendy Williams really worked. She was gay man.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And you can't really go after a gay man. What are you doing? Exactly. It's true. Exactly. Clap if you think she should suffer. Exactly. Sometimes I want to ask a question and I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I'm like, Justin, ask this. 100%. I'm telling you, that's why we're here. We're here to ask the questions, you guys don't know. You're uncancellable. We really all. We've been through too much. You all have.
Starting point is 00:33:34 The trauma is real. The trauma is real. I don't know if we could get rid of away with that bit. There's like a slightly uncomfortable question. You're like, all right, all right. Justin, can you just come in here? please and just yeah one thousand percent i mean listen that's how i started my career i think i got all of the interviews that i wanted when i first started working at e because people were afraid
Starting point is 00:33:56 to ask questions and there is a finesse to fucking getting into people's business right okay like you have to finesse it you got to smooth it over and i think women especially actresses felt really comfortable with me because they had gay hairdressers. They had gay makeup artists. They had the gays in the arsenal. So they were used to, you know, us nosy trying to clock it gays. And that's really how I got my jump off. And he has to stop. Yeah. I just ask the questions anyways and then I just stay offline and don't take the heat. Smart. It's really smart. It's like if they're saying something, I don't know. It's so interesting because when I want, these reunion shows and I got to give hats off to you I watch Mormon wise reunion
Starting point is 00:34:47 and it's a hard job to do hosting a reunion it is yeah but I was like fuck he is moving this shit along like it is happening we are get going there oh shit the one thing I wish you had done better was fucking ride Macy's ass for for five more seconds Macy or oh no no Macy what no what's the one who's the one who's the one who's the one hates Whitney. Michaela. No, I love Michaela. No, I love Michaela. Don't.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I just wanted you to ride her for like five more minutes. It just didn't make the edit. Okay. I need the uncut version. Sadly, though, I won't be hosting the season three reunion. I'm sad because I love those women. I love that show and it was great to be a part of it. But working with my wife with Netflix, you know, they...
Starting point is 00:35:31 He chose me over the... We had to pick, yeah. Now, how is it working together? I mean, we do it here. So it's like so much fun to... to just continue it. And obviously, this is like a bigger, I mean, it's Netflix.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It's like, I've never been on a real set like that before. Like, that was so cool. And having them like, you know, like talk in your ear and give you lines and you're like talking the same time they're speaking to you. It's a crazy way to do things. It was so much fun. It was so cool. The show was going to be so good.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Justin, you're going to be obsessed. Oh, I'm into this shit. Because, you know, like when I was, you know, your age, like, if a man wasn't 47 plus, I wasn't checking for him. Like, I liked a young, I liked an older man when I was younger. I didn't mind it Where are you at now? Are you going to say what about now? You know what? No, no, not as old.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Okay. I feel like my daddy issues have like come down. You know what I mean? I'm not chronically, you know, full of daddy issues. You've healed a little. Well, now you've matured and now like you, you know, you, you are the adult. Yeah, I'm an uncle. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I'm an uncle. Yeah. At this point. You can heal someone else's daddy issues. I just love. I just like I always say this. I just think Natalie's a star. So I just think she's being discovered.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I'm just along for the ride. I'm hoping to set off into the sunset, you know, just, you know, and have Natalie take over when I'm too old to do this shit. And by the way, once you're in with the network, you're in. So Natalie, don't get comfortable
Starting point is 00:36:51 because they're going to be working your ass to the bone. Just know that. You know, I have a child to pay for and she has expensive taste. She's really expensive taste. And by she has expensive taste. It means like Nallie uses river and his excuse to buy things.
Starting point is 00:37:06 She's always like, now he's always looking around the house. Like, what corner can I feel this? I'm like, I would love like a nice armoire right here, you know, like somewhere. Oh, you're a pack rat. No. I am not a pack rat. I am a collectible. Okay. I'm a collector. I like to collect.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Isn't it so funny. Are you a minimalist, Nick? Because I feel like this is very minimal. If I haven't, if I haven't used it, I'm not sentimental. Stuff is stuff. And if I haven't used it in five days, get the fuck out of it. I like that. Straight men are so... I'm a curator.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Meanwhile, there's still that, like, shampoo bottle that you might use, that oliplex that you had from, like, nine years ago when you dyed your hair that you might use again in case you get highlights, so you don't want to throw it away, even though it's a curdling on the side. So true. So true. Wait, Justin, I hear you've been. tracking Brooks Nader's relationships and like as have I. Bitch, I should be Brooks Nader's OBGYN. The way I know about this bitch's life right now is wild.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I just love a pretty bitch who curses. Yeah, yeah, me too. Like Jennifer Lopez, if you ever in your life get a chance, when she drops a F-bomb, I ovulate. It's powerful. And she does it. She does it very slyly. It happens once a year. It's at Groundhogs Day.
Starting point is 00:38:40 If you're there when she says the F word, it fucking sets me off. The rest of your year is great. 100%. I know it's going to be a good year. It's like the one F bomb you get in a PG-13 movie. Exactly. It's so good. Now, are you only aware of Brooks's public roster or do you know her private roster?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Because it's impressive. I don't think I can know the private roster because I would become obsessed with it. It's pretty good, Justin. It's pretty good. You know, we're from the same city. Wait, y'all grew up in the same city? She grew up 30 minutes away from where I grew up. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:12 But I went to college in Baton Rouge at LSU, and she and I have mutual friends. So every Christmas, for years, I would see her at our mutual friends' house and we'd always hang out. She's a doll. She's in the big leagues. Really big league. Yeah. I really hope she gets Victoria's Secret. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:39:32 That would really set her off. Yeah. Yeah. If she's in that fashion show, if they're smart, this girl is like not above playing the game. No, no, no. Yeah, she's great. That's what I like about her. I like that she knows that there's this public interest about her, that she is like, B, about to be A.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And she is willing to do whatever the fuck it takes to get to A and stay there. And she will do it. And if Victoria's Secret Smart, they'll put her in that fashion show and they'll use. use that to their advantage. She deserves her wings. I really do think so. I mean, it would be a good mark for her. She did S.I.
Starting point is 00:40:13 She did Maxim. And now she's doing this. I don't think we've seen a super model. I'm going to call her super light. I've not seen a super light model do this like personality thing since like a Tyra or when Heidi Kloom started to be in more personality and putting herself out there. And I think we need it because like I don't know what G. Hadid's voice sounds like
Starting point is 00:40:36 anymore. I don't know if Bella could even like, you know, I don't even know. And even to be fair, I think they got their kickstarts because we got to see them on reality television. Yeah, inspiring too. And then we're like, let's follow. Yeah. Oh, G. Kendi, eat an almond, baby. I can't have cake. You have a shoot. Eat an almond. He's an almond, honey. She's like, I'm going to pass out, mom.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh, my God. I'm on their first season on Beverly, like, I'm watching all the Beverly Hills right now and I'm like on the first season with Yolanda. And it's so insane. to see the Hadid's as baby girls. It's a beautiful, beautiful moment. Justin, did you watch Love Vinerator? I know.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I am. I'm stuck in it. What do you think of the sisters? I like the one who's like Courtney. The youngest one is like very dry and doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, Ther Jane. Listen, I know this show has like zero nutrition of value. Like, I get it. But at the end of the day, I just want to watch the four of them fucking fight about a dude
Starting point is 00:41:34 who their sister, you know, it's the same shit, but I love it. It's like an easy watch. Yes, but that's what I'm saying. I feel like reality TV kind of has to go back there because it's like even the Kardashians. Like, we don't know what we were watching when it started, but somehow you're just fascinated by like an actual day-to-day life versus like, all right, here's the storyline for this episode and then we're going to go into the next one. It's like, no, I just want to see live your lives.
Starting point is 00:41:54 100%. Yeah. And that's what people do on YouTube all the time. I saw a TikTok of someone talking about the whole like Gleb, the Uber, the car and the Uber and her going through the text and, like, finding out that he was cheating on her having threesomes and Joshua Tree, whatever it was. Of all places. Of all places.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Joshua Tree and the dirt and the sand? Exactly. That's what I was thinking. But they were like, how did he get on the plane if he didn't have his phone? Like, how did he board? That's hilarious. That this generation has no idea that you can go to a kios and put in your fucking confirmation number. Like, this is why I fucking hate Jin Z sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I'm really sorry. You know his confirmation number if he didn't have it in his phone. Bitch, you have to go with an ID anyway. You scan your ID at the goddamn kiosk and you get on the plane, okay? Or crazier concept. You go to the desk and talk to someone. Oh, my God. Talk to someone?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Are you fucking serious? You have to talk to someone? Can I just text them? I don't know. By the way, I'm guessing that Nick is the parent who has the passports, the itineraries, and all the immunization forms in his passport. Hell fucking no. This man forgets everything all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Loses his shit. I will say that what makes Nali and I work really well is like I think together as a combo we make a really good trad wife. Yeah. Good. Yes. Like I'm so good at ironing. I'm a whiz in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Nallie married a gourmet chef. I don't do laundry. I don't clean. I don't pick up after myself. But I am really good in the kitchen. He doesn't wipe his ass. I do that too. Nope, that's gross.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Honey, get him a toto. I change diapers. I put her river down for naps. I like I take care of Nali so Nalli can take care of River. By the way, I'm not mad at that. No, not at all. Like if a man is giving 25% I will take it. It sounds like you're giving 50, but I tell all my girlfriends, if your man's given 20 to 25, take it and run.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Because I have some friends who's, I'm like, girl, I don't know how you're doing this right now. My favorite thing is it's like so many people are in relationships don't know that they're single. Literally. They're literally doing everything and they're like little passenger princesses like, oh, wait, you want me to get a door for you? It's my famous ass Nick line. He wants a girlfriend but doesn't want to be a boyfriend, you know? There you go. Speaking of relationships, what were you doing on Saturday?
Starting point is 00:44:25 I went to a wedding. Yeah, we thought so. I went to a wedding. Who's wedding? Oh my God. So Kyle Richards, who's one of my best friends, worked for her as an assistant for five years. Her second oldest daughter got married. And it was wild.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Was it? Tell us about it. Yeah. It was kind of like a Bravo royal wedding, it seemed like. It really was. You know, those girls have grown up on TV. And I think people are just really excited to see them have happy endings. I mean, I got to tell you, I don't know how you guys are going to do this in, you know, 20, 30 years.
Starting point is 00:45:00 but I cried like a baby. I pre-cry. When I know I'm going to be a mess, I like to get it out first. So I make like a nice little playlist. I go to the gym. I run on the treadmill and I let it out. And thank God, the maintenance guy at Equinox,
Starting point is 00:45:17 like literally took me aside and asked me if I was going to be okay. Should he call somebody for me? Because, you know, I've known her since she was 13 years old. And she was just a beautiful bride. And I'm so happy. That's so sweet. Yeah. She's dated the guy since she was like, you know, 20.
Starting point is 00:45:32 They've known each other since they were in third grade. It's really wild. Can you like maybe like drop some like who was there? Oh, you've seen it in People magazine. You know, Lisa Redo was there. Erica Jane was there. You had some of the Love Island people there. It was a nice little time.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Love Island people. Did Erica wear a certain kind of earrings? No, she did not. She looked hot though. She always looked hot. She looked hot. What love island people were there? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I just heard chirping. I got drunk. I'm not going to lie. I was fucked up right before they, like, he stuffed on that glass. Mama was having a cocktail. So I was three sheets to the goddamn win by the time, like, I got to the reception.
Starting point is 00:46:13 That's why you were crying so much. Babbling, like a fool. I don't know what's going on with this beautiful. Babling. Justin, I'm assuming you're watching OC, correct? I'm watching OC. We recently had Katie on the show. and it made some waves.
Starting point is 00:46:30 She's making waves. I'm like, what are you making of this whole season? What seems to be the entire cast trying to take down Katie. Are you friends with Kiki Monique? Yeah, do you? No, I don't know who Kiki Monique is, by the way. Okay. I just got introduced to Kiki Monique recently from the show.
Starting point is 00:46:48 From the show. Okay. But what are you making of this season? We thought Katie really came on and answered all of our burning questions, and I think she answered him quite well where she made a lot of sense where it really seems like the rest of the cast is trying to take her down the most recent episode. We were on top of it before it got revealed in the episode. But Justin, being the Bravo historian that he is, knew that this lie detector test seemed to be a bit fraudulent from the get. And that this person has been, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:21 he's a pay for play type of person. Katie also, I don't know if she got tipped off. but she mentioned in the interview. And it really didn't seem like it registered with Jen, you know, when she was trying to, like, explain to, Katie was trying to explain to Jen that, like, hey, they hired a paid actor. Yeah. And then, Heather's response was like, oh, well, Terry is also on TV, but he's also a plastic surgeon, as if that somehow made the lie detector test more valid, quite get that comparison. But anyways, what are you making of this whole scenario?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Are you team, Katie? Are you team the rest of the women? Like, what's your take on all this? What I think happened was Gretchen was talking shit about Tamara to Katie said, oh, my God, at the naked wasted party, like, I should have went to the hospital. And, you know, somebody was like, why? And she was like, I probably was drugged. And she didn't say A plus B, you know, equal C. She probably said A plus D and they filled in the middle part.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And Katie strung it together. But there was that clip of Gretchen in the back seat telling Tamara to her says that she did go to the hospital. So that's where I was like, maybe she did say and I went to the hospital after. Exactly. But apparently she forgot that she fell asleep at Gretchen's house that night. Yeah. So I think something was said at that table. I think Katie went to Jen to get that backup and Jen didn't give it to her because Jen doesn't want to be on the other side of Tamara.
Starting point is 00:48:52 What happens, I think, with somebody like Katie, is you have to have at least one person that has your back. And unfortunately for her, no one was there for her. Jen was supposed to be that person and Jen was not that person. Also, Katie Connor repeated something, but that's the game. It's housewives. Yeah. She repeated something that she heard. And now people are trying to, I think, protect Tamara.
Starting point is 00:49:22 because, you know, we've seen in the past, if you say that someone tried to drug someone else, it's a Fadra Park situation. Yeah. So I think that Katie was like, someone helped me out here and everyone was like, we don't want to touch that, but attempt the poll.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Right. Yeah, but now you also have Tamara seemingly coming to Katie's defense in the comment. So what do you make of all that? I think Tamara's smart. I think Tamara knows that when they get to that reunion, she's looking at everybody on that couch, And she's like, all right, I do have Heather Dubrow.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But this girl is the lowest man on the toll and pole. For any housewife, if you want to get in on the action, you have to kind of sort of defend that one person. Like you could either say, because they will defend you back at the same time. So you always make a little bit of an alliance there. And I think Tamara and Gretchen, no matter how they're skipping on the beach, no matter how much they said they're going to put it behind them, those two are out for blood. Thank you. No matter what, those two are out for fucking blood. We watched this for like nine years straight and like we're still not learning our lesson.
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, bitch. This was a 13 year. Somebody is a Scorpio in there. Yeah. Because this Vendetta goes back to 1990, motherfucker nine. Okay? That's some good shit there. So I think what's going to happen, Tamara is aligning herself with Katie because Tamara's going to go for Gretchen and all the flip-flopping that Gretchen has done over the season.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Do you like the addition of Gretchen? Gretchen bringing her back this season? I fucking love it. Yes. I also think that I, Gretchen needs at least two seasons to warm up. She was thrown back into this group. She didn't know her place. She was afraid to get in there and go head to head with Tamara.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I think most housewives need at least two seasons. Because the first season, you're like, holy shit, that happened. And then you watch it back and you're ready. Yep. You understand. You come in second season probably with a little glow up. too and you're like ready to battle oh no no you get a hair and makeup team you know you've read the twitter the stylus the stylus all the things yes but a lot of housewives do things for the audience
Starting point is 00:51:33 you know they don't want to piss the audience off too much they don't want to be the villain but sometimes like i'll take this i'll say this if you watch the scene on the on the beach gretchen says to tamra yo you brought joe here to piss me the fuck off right that's low-hanging fruit All Tamara had to say was, you know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe I, maybe, yes, I'm sorry. I'm human. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I wanted to pitch you off. I shouldn't have done that. Sometimes you just got to take accountability for something. Right. You know what I mean? And it's hard for them because they're afraid of that edit. They're afraid of what people are going to say about them. But I think Gretchen will come back next season and she'll come back harder.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Do you think there's any concern for Katie to return? We head her on. She says she definitely wants to come back. She definitely, she seemed to make it clear. that if she's not there, it is not because she decided not to come back. We need Katie. Yes. You need crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:28 You know what I mean? You need somebody who is so, and we haven't had that in a very long time, having somebody who splits the audience into, because as you said, you believe everything that Katie says, there is somebody down the street who probably does not. Like you need that divisive character on a show. It's really hard to say. I mean, I think when we head her on at first, it seemed like definitely watching. it, to me, it seemed like Katie's a bit of a gossip. Maybe she tells the white lie here or there.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But then when we hit her on, I thought she was very articulate, very decisive with her responses. And I don't think she's any more of a liar than any of these other women after talking to her. I think it's all semantics. And I think Katie really has her version and the other women have theirs. But the way, they weigh the rest of the women are painting her out to be this compulsive liar who just has a laundry list of, lies. I just, that I don't buy. And I think it's this very convoluted and the way they're being, the way they're teaming up on Katie. I mean, again, like it's, we, we know now, I think we, I feel confident saying Heather definitely called the paparazzi on herself. And that's fine. No judgment. Yeah. But like, at Disneyland? You think Heather called the paparazzi at Disneyland?
Starting point is 00:53:46 I think, I think she calls the pop on her. I think she's definitely capable of calling them. Yeah. Maybe Terry called. No one's thought that Terry might have called. Here's the jam. In L.A., if you want to be seen, you know the three places to go. Sure. Craig's.
Starting point is 00:54:02 George Obaldy. Craigs. Catch. It used to be the catch. Sometimes Jones. Yeah, sometimes Jones. People know the places to go. I don't think you're calling the paparazzi to come to, you know, Disney World to pay that $300 ticket.
Starting point is 00:54:19 But do you really think Katie just made that up? out of thin air? I think somebody said it to Katie and then Katie ingest and then Katie repeated it. Well, did y'all hear that Teddy Malencamp said that Sheena Shea was the one that told Kiki Monique about Gretchen being corrupt. Oh, shit. That's a plot twist. Right? Okay, but hold on.
Starting point is 00:54:42 This is for the ladies out there. Did anyone see Gina's ex-husband? No. The one who had the heart attack. Hot. Hot. no wonder Gina has six kids for that man thank you Natalie
Starting point is 00:54:54 thank you I didn't think Gina could do it yeah oh yeah yeah bro I'm like holy shit Gina bag that what the fuck Gina come over let's talk
Starting point is 00:55:06 Gina why didn't you lead with that why didn't you start with that oh he's fine yeah he was really cute how would you feel would you want if you got divorce and your partner remarriage
Starting point is 00:55:19 Would you want them to look like you or nothing like you? Nothing like. You know what I need? If they could just be one, I would love to be, you know, hey, I want to like your partner. Just make sure she's just one below me. Like you know what I mean? Yeah. Not quite as hot.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah. Like if I'm like L.A., like seven, can you make her six? If you want to stay on good terms during co-parenting. Please. Please. It's like, or if she's hot, like make her have bad style. make her like something. And isn't this the woman who's kind of made her life
Starting point is 00:55:54 kind of a living? No, that's her boyfriend's partner. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I kind of find it a little creepy when people have a bunch of exes that look exactly the same. Yeah. I'm like, try something different. Yeah, it's weird. It's the reason why it doesn't work out. It is kind of weird. You know what I mean? Yeah. Have some range. Right. Some people have a type, Nick. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Let's talk about that. I like what I like. You know. let's talk about that he was a very picky eater in general too right so he has the specific things he he enjoys you know i i often say this about celebrities they get into this thing where they date almost the same type of person in the same situation and it never works out and the minute they take a step outside of their comfort zone they find the love of their lives like i'm watching zoe cravitz fucking date all these actors and i'm like girl it's never going to motherfucking work like you cannot date another man who wants to fit in your jeans so you don't think her and harry styles are in game
Starting point is 00:56:52 no they're not in game she can't in game with that he dated her friend who's how she was staying at that's so true that's so true who's the friend taylor taylor swive oh my god she was staying at taylor swive's house yes sleeping with her ex-wayfront exactly yeah iconic oh god when did taylor and harry's date oh my god you've got that james dean she wrote her whole song about it yeah there's a rumor that they like committed vehicular manslaughter together. It's not true. Crazy. It's what dark web
Starting point is 00:57:21 you are on. It's one of like the crazy Swifty conspiracy theories that style is about a hit and run. Holy shit. That was crazy. Wow. The Swifties will know what I'm talking. I don't think they will actually.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I don't think they'll like that. Guys in the audience please. You're really feeling loose with Justin sent next to you. I'm like, I don't want to be here. Cut me out of this episode. Oh my God. Sorry. I went too darned. I'm trying to get invited to the wedding.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Literally, I did not say that. I have gotten in trouble so many times for other people saying shit. I am not taking this one for you. He did not say that. I said that. I said that. It's so crazy. I have a, I'm doing a podcast now called The Yesterday's.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And I have a podcast co-host. His name is Blake Lee Thornton. And it's, he's got no filter and he has no parent company and he got nobody to quote nothing to lose nothing to lose and that fucking tongue is loose and every week I'm like I get a text I'm like here it is here's my weekly tech because I also don't want to cut things out or say oh you can't say that because this is his platform too right and he does make sense on some of the shit but man you're really testing those boundaries the customer care I'm doing right now for this podcast is crazy
Starting point is 00:58:42 And disclaimer added, that is not my thoughts. I do not share said sentiments. I say it every time. Keep it rolling. I'm like, that did not. Wrong black eye here. Wait, wait. I forget.
Starting point is 00:58:51 On OC, what was the procedure that Gretchen and, was it Gina? The thing in the butt that's supposed to give on the pellets. What was that? Testosterone. Testosterone. You can get any kind of, like, let's say you're taking testosterone, TRT. You know, most men take it when they get over 45 or 50. Not me.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I just got my blood work done, and my testosterone is high, apparently. I'm sure you have a 25-year-old fucking wife. It better be popping. 27. She's 27. I'm 27 now. You can put the testosterone in a pellet that releases every day for you. Oh, damn. And it makes your ass big?
Starting point is 00:59:31 No, no. You just put the testosterone in there instead of taking the shot every day. Have you done this? No, not yet, but I will. Yeah. Yeah, I'm big on vitamins and vitamins. You love our supplements. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's for post-menopausal women. It helps with like their exercise, their metabolism, balancing their diet and sleep. So it's like when our levels are low, that's when we're all like, I'm reading from the internet as to why one would take testosterone. I stand with women. Women's stories matter. I don't care of Holland Taylor sitting right next to me. I don't know shit about menopause, okay? Ruth Bade-Ginsberg.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I don't know if you went through menopause. I don't, I don't care. I don't care. I'm not asking that question. You would offer them a pad if they need it. Oh, I would have a tampon ready. Yes. Wait, speaking of menopause, are you watching Real Housewives of Miami?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Bitch. Yeah. Miami's kind of sort of, I hate to say it, one of my favorites. Yes. It's my second favorite to Salt Lake City. Miami fucks it up every time. Why? And you know what?
Starting point is 01:00:33 The friends are in there too. I think it's because Miami's like a whole other world we don't know shit about. Yes. And like things that go on in my. We don't know the ends and outs of. And there's also like those crazy accents, like, and the Latin heat. And all the weird stuff, though, it's like so normal to them. And I'm over here like, okay, so we do what now?
Starting point is 01:00:51 No, no. It's like the first time, like, I remember vividly watching Real Housewives of New Jersey. And they're sitting on like this couch. I can remember it. And the whole time it was like, your mother's a whore. Your daughter's going to be a fucking prostitute. Your husband's gay. And no one would get upset.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And Teresa was like, go scratch. And then it was like, you said, go scratch. Like, it was like, I didn't understand it. But apparently in New Jersey, if you tell somebody to go scratch, that's it. Final straw. Like, you're fucking done. Yes. Like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I don't understand the language. I don't understand it. But I'm here for it. Yeah. No, that is how I feel when I watch Miami. I'll be halfway through an episode. I'm like, I'm not entirely sure what I'm watching. Do you like Stephanie?
Starting point is 01:01:39 I feel like at this point, we need to make her jet a friend of or an original household. I mean, it's like insane how much that bitch gets brought up. That jet should be a full-time fucking friend. That jet should have a, what does Miami have? A seashell? No, I'm pretty positive. It's a martini. It's either margarito or a martini.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I'm glad she brought her other super rich friend on. No, I really love it. By the way, I feel like Stephanie knows exactly what's happening. She's like, I'm going to go for Alexia. Everyone seems to be scared of her. I'm the HBIC in my life. But then she started crying like a punk bitch on that trip. But I liked it.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I liked the other side of her. Who was the one who's like, girl, there's no safe space is here? And she's like, this is my safe space. And she was like, what face space? This is housewife. My favorite part was when they split them up. And then Stephanie is being her alter ego nautical stuff. And she's like, well, I'm nautical step.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I was just like, well, don't do drugs. And she just keeps saying, like, no drugs. Should we read the rapid recaps before we break any more down? Sure. Well, if you missed this past episode of the Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid recap. We meet Stephanie Sojay's alter ego, nautical staff, and Julia's alter ego, Judy Garland, performing the trolley song. Kiki's dad helped her out with her family stuff and they're moving forward together.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Lisa is in her Nicole Kidman in that one photo after she left Tom Cruise era, divorced. But low key, her finger feels bare. and she lets Jody know this. Stephanie Sojay is friends with Anastasia from Setting Spray fame. She's also in her struggling stand-up era and working on her delivery. But anyway, the girls get rockin on Richer the Virgin Airlines guys' crews. Adriana is having that girl moment when it's your birthday, so therefore you want to die. Gertie is so best friends to her about it, though, and it's so cutie.com.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But everyone still hates each other, so they get split up. Marisol tells Stephanie Sojay, no drugs. Lisa is on time for the first time in her life and tries to talk shit. Not on girly pop, Larsa does a bunch of shots. and flashes the girls on FaceTime, and it's honestly cute. Marisol tells Nautical Steph's twin sister, Jane Fonda, workout tape, Steph, that she's not a safe space for her, but they're maybe going to have a new start. However, it doesn't look like it's going to go well.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That lunch with Kiki's dad, it's kind of dark. It always blows my mind when a housewife brings, like, a parent or like a relative to talk about some dark past trauma, and I just can't get past knowing that, like, the ambush, which her dad called out, like, how many cameras are around and why are we talking about this right here right now? it always just blows my mind when they go really dark and really deep on childhood traumas. It just, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:04:13 it blows my mind. I think it's crazy because we always see her so jovial and having a good time and, you know, she's a friend so she shows up when she wants and, like, she's in hair and makeup and she's always so positive. And then what happens is that person kind of throws something out
Starting point is 01:04:29 at a left field, which she did when they were in Spain. Right. And then you have the follow up to that. You know what I mean? Like, but the story wasn't like, there wasn't like a slow roll to it. It was like, this is actually happening in her life and her dad's there, so let's talk about it. But it
Starting point is 01:04:45 is kind of jarring. What's also drawing is that baby girl told Jody she's ready to get married again. That was crazy. The ink isn't even dry on the divorce papers. The papers hadn't even been delivered. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I would be like, wait, his face. As I was to say, his reaction was perfect. The man was lost for words. like okay yeah you do like being a missis don't you it was crazy it was wild in the same breath of i don't think i'm ready to feel married again but my finger does feel really bare as she wears her ring that lennie gave her yes i will say i've never thought twice about being a miss or a miss yeah i forgot that that was a thing honestly like watching this episode reminded me that like there's a difference between miss and misses have you ever been referred to it
Starting point is 01:05:37 is a missus ever yeah himself so yeah mrs you're an MRS yeah you're an MRS you're an MRS you're MRS do you watch gilded age yes here's the thing yeah I think the gilded age is Miami but in different costumes yeah because if you think about it those women are in their 40s and 50s and we're talking about being divorcees and we're talking about not feeling like oh I'm a whole woman because no one wants to marry me. Adriana's going through it. Lisa's going through it already. The only person who is divorced and not going through it.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And actually, Alexi is going through it. She didn't want to let Todd go because she doesn't, yeah. She does not want to be single. Yeah. The only person that's enjoying single life is fucking Larsa. Yeah. Because she's pulling some hot trade.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. And the one that is like very married. We don't know her husband. How many housewives are on Only fans? I think there's only like two. Are we including Denise in that? I think Denise, Brandy and. And Larsa.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Do you think Brandy's still working after the parasite? I think Brandy's definitely still working. Bernie's always working. Listen, there's always a cake out there. Thank you. Thank you. And we're not shaming anyone's king. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:51 If I could sell a dirty tampon, honey, I would. Right? My bath water. You don't want my bath water. Yeah. It is bathing. I feel like some, but the thing is, somebody out there probably does. And you deserve to get paid for that.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Thank you so much. Yeah. It's so crazy. I want lack of a dry and a candle. What housewife or Bravo celebrity do you think is missing out the most by not being on only fans? Ooh. Give me a city. Salt Lake.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Ooh, you know, I think fucking Angie's hot. Yeah. I think Angie's kind of hot. And I think Angie's husband would let her do whatever she would. Like if she wanted to pose a few. He's taking the photos. Make a few million. He did her hair for the shoot.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Exactly. High body count hair. High body count hair. Give me another. the city. Potomac. Oh, who's in Potomac? Who's in Potomac?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Jazele. Single? Yeah. She would eat. Her eyes. Her eyes, that booty, she would eat. That hells. Erica Jane.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. Yeah. Erica fucking Jane. Pretty mess. Would pretty mess would kill. Honestly, why hasn't she done it? Honestly, because she could really rebound. She needs, I mean, she needs the cash flow.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Like, she made a lot during Savage Ex-Exvention. to you when she did those clubs she made a lot she made a lot which I think she's going to be back for that again thank God yeah yeah but she's southern like me we're scared yeah Atlanta oh Portia William duh
Starting point is 01:08:20 another ass from the gods and I've seen that ass in person it is wild or Kelly oh new girl Kelly yeah oh yeah for sure yeah for sure for sure yeah new girl Kelly could do it Britt Edie would probably make a lot of money Brit Edie would also make a lot of money she has She probably is making money.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Am I wrong for saying Drew? I feel like Drew would make a lot of money. On all the only fans? She would not make good money in only fans. She has her music career. She's over there. I still think Tom Sandoval would make an absolute killing. By the way, Tom Sandoval.
Starting point is 01:08:54 You can do it. It's coming out next. Has he not taking your idea about this? No. He hasn't. I feel like Tom Sandoval would make a fucking killing. He makes so much money. He could buy that house back from.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Ariana and then another house. Yeah. I think if you did it for like a month and said, listen, I'm just going to be sending out exclusive content and like you're going to see my dick once and once only 30 days, let's go, 4599, bitches would run. Yeah, they would. There's so much. He would make so much money.
Starting point is 01:09:26 He would make a killing. The Hawthorne made, I think, $5 million in the first month she was doing it. He would make a million dollars just from the haters who wanted to like sign. up just to shame him and that's not even counting all the people who are fans of him who want to watch and like and enjoy the body he's been working so hard on but like just the haters alone would pay him over a million dollars i would pay 45 yeah i would do it research purposes yeah yeah by the way i'm dying to know what's in there because apparently all these bitches were clamoring over him it must be something nice right yeah did you see anna kendrick recently be like if tom sandival has no
Starting point is 01:10:06 I'm dead. Yeah. The fact that that guy, and I'm like, you know, it sucks. What happened was terrible. The fact that all of the world thought you were the scum of the earth is a horrible, horrible thing to go to. But I get a sense, a little bit of relief when I see him on Fox. So do I.
Starting point is 01:10:29 When I see. Just like, okay, you could do it. Like, you could make a comeback. Everyone deserves a second chance. Like, what he did was terrible? terrible. He did not deserve the vitrile he got. And like, there are just worse people in the world out there than Tom Sandival. I'm not saying that he asked for it or anything, but in his first season, first episode, he does say he does want fame and he wants Michael Jackson level
Starting point is 01:10:50 of fame. Oh, well, be careful what you wish for because he was on the banner of CNN.com talking about his private business. And now he's, he is a household name. Literally. Same with infamy. Well, yeah. You know, some people will take the same thing. I was going to say it's one in the same nowadays. It's one and the same. There's no Billy the kids in entertainment.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Except that I don't know how much money Tom is making and there's no point in being famous if you're not rich. And I don't know Tom's finances
Starting point is 01:11:16 but I think he needs a sign up for only fans. By the way, I would do it if I were in. Yeah. Are we watching Gretchen from O.C. Or Jen?
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh, you think from O.C.? Who would make the most money? On Only fans? Jen. Who are we watching? I think Jim would make the most money.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah. Gretchen, sorry, Mama. Also, did you see the moment where Jen's daughter was like, I don't know if I want you to marry Ryan. Yeah. And if I were Jen, I'd be like, bitch, we wouldn't have somewhere to live if I don't marry, like, if I don't marry Ryan, we're fucked.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Baby, do you want a house over your head? We don't have a choice here. We don't have a choice. Mama's going to marry his man. I realized Jen follows me. So I DM'd her last week. I was like, we got to finally get you on. She didn't respond to that.
Starting point is 01:12:01 But then she just responded to my Instagram story of me posting a picture of the lake. It was like, this is what it's all about, ignoring my request to come on. I think she's definitely to come on. I don't think she saw that message. I think she was just on stories. It was definitely giving, I don't understand Instagram and less of a. Yeah. I did DM Britney Bateman and she'll be coming on eventually for sure.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And she sent me a three second voice note in response. I am here. Was she singing? Play it. You have to play it. I am here. When she gets here, I'm fucking here. It was so great.
Starting point is 01:12:36 It was so great. I love her. I'm going to be working the sound like this motherfucker over here. I didn't even want to be on camera. You said tap in Justin for Justin. I just want to be here. This message to go, hey, Brittany, huge fan. We're excited to finally have you on this season.
Starting point is 01:12:49 We were in talks last season. Timing didn't work out with our schedules. I think it's going to happen this season. She responded with this. Oh my gosh. That's so nice. Thank you. I mean, just perfect.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Her voice. No, no. Her voice. Love it. She's one of the best. I really didn't think, like, people could make up for Monica Garcia's exit. But the way Brittany and Browen have, have, I mean, they're both incredibly fantastic. Is Britney going to get her snowflake?
Starting point is 01:13:23 He's a friend of the season. That's disgusting. By the way, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everybody thinks that being a friend of is a bad guy. gig and it's kind of the fucking best yeah bailey always says she loves the fact that she's a friend of she and i and i can say this she called me and she was like oh they want me to be a friend of i don't know it feels like a demotion i sat with this bitch for five minutes on the phone i said don't interrupt
Starting point is 01:13:48 just let me give you the key points and she was like i think you're right i think i'm going to do it and then she said it was the best decision of her life people sleep on friend of's but it is one of the best jobs in reality TV. I was like she practically narrated this last season. She was the star. She was awesome this last season. I'm telling you right now, anyone who can find, if you're a woman out there and they ask you be a housewife, always say just a friend of.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yeah. The pressure's off your back. If a season's bad, no one ever says, oh, the friends were bad. Yeah. They say the housewives are bad. They blame it on the producers. If you don't want to show up somewhere, you don't have to show up somewhere. If you don't want to go on a cash trip, you don't have to go on a cash trip.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Right. You get to be fabulous. You get to push your shit. But most importantly, you get to jump in when you think you want to. And it's just less pressure. I would literally, I've been trying to talk everyone into it. Being a friend is the jam. No, no.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Justin, this is so much fun, man. Please come back soon. Plug away. Tell us where we can find you, all that fun stuff. You guys, the Yestergays podcast, it's really funny. It's out of control. It drops every Tuesday, wherever you get your podcast and on YouTube. It's with Blakely Thornton, and we're live, and we're coming to you, and you don't want to miss it.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And you can find me on Instagram at Justin A. Sylvester. I love you guys. I love you. Up next, we have Ramone Young from the new hit show, The Paper, streaming now on Peacock. It's hilarious, especially if you are a fan of the office, which I know many of you are. She's on it. She's starring on it. She's hilarious.
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Starting point is 01:17:38 and connect with top talent ready to help your business grow. That's Upwork, UPWRK.com, Upwork.com. Ramona Young, welcome to the show. Thanks. So excited to have you. We are so excited to have you. Also, congratulations, because today, I mean, we're renewed for a second season two. Before you guys even started.
Starting point is 01:17:58 You're booked. You're booked and you're busy. So how does that feel? Well, that doesn't usually happen. Right. That's not a normal thing. Right. Usually you finish a season.
Starting point is 01:18:11 It gets released. People watch it. You twiddle your thumbs for six months. And you're hoping that you have a job after that. You're like calling your cousins. You're like, please did you turn it on and stream it or watch it to add to those numbers? Yeah. Please like just keep it running.
Starting point is 01:18:27 And keep it just nonstop running in your house. So I feel very fortunate. I don't know. It's a good thing. The expectations are high. Yeah. So go, I mean, obviously, like, the office is such an iconic series. Whether it was you or the rest of the cast, like, what conversations were you all having or just with yourself in terms of how much did you guys want to replicate or kind of bring in the essence of the success of the office?
Starting point is 01:18:54 Or was it more like, let's just do our own thing. Let's be our own show. show, and how did you guys strike that balance? I think from the beginning, it was very clear that it was going to be its own thing. I think tonally, it was going to be a little similar. It was going to be made by the same documentary crew, so the style would be similar. But all the characters, I think when Greg Daniels and Michael Komen, they were creating all these wonderful characters, they wanted to make sure that the dynamics were different
Starting point is 01:19:25 and the characters were new and that it was going to be its own new thing. What was the audition process like? How do I even begin? That's such a great question. It was very long. Really? It took months. And it was like an audition that I had never done before in my life.
Starting point is 01:19:45 What about it felt like different? The audition was very mysterious. None of the names were real. None of the sides were real. there was no character description interesting so there was like nothing you were you were basically just left in the dark and so did they not want the like
Starting point is 01:20:07 idea of this like being leaked anywhere is that why they were being so mysterious or that's a great question it really beats me I think a part of it is they just want to see what you do with with very minimal information yeah it was a very long process. It took months. And then there was a chemistry read, which I did with Melvin. And that was interesting. Interesting altogether. Yeah, because you want to feel like you have chemistry with the person. A lot of times
Starting point is 01:20:40 you don't know them. Right. And so in the lobby, everyone's like socializing and trying to like warm up to people and whatnot. And me and Melvin had missed each other. So like I went in when he arrived and then he went in and I was sent back out and so when we read together it was our first time meeting and instant chemistry of course instant spontaneous yeah and um Greg and Michael were in the room and they were like did you guys get a chance to talk or meet each other we were both like no we hadn't hi how are you and they're like well we're just going to leave the room and let you guys socialize and get to know each other and they tiptoed out of the room and they tiptoed out of the room and just, like, press the record button and left.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And it was just me and Melvin sitting there like, so, what do you like to do for fun? What? Yeah. And then they came in, like, a couple minutes later. And then we did, like, a couple versions of the scene. And that was my chemistry read with Melvin. I feel like I would be more awkward when they left, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Because it's like, you know, when they're there, you're like, oh, we're trying to get this job you know we're acting right and I feel like when they leave the room it's kind of that like you just ran into someone maybe you don't necessarily like want to see at the grocery store and you're having this like awkward like what have you been up to lately kind of like awkward conversation it's like a blind date it was like a strange blind date yeah do you think that leaned into kind of like the co-worker aspect of the show how so I feel like the way, especially, I mean, I don't know how long, like, your character and everyone had been, like, working at this paper, but I feel like there definitely is a different way you, like, communicate with your co-workers than you would with, like, your friend that, because you don't necessarily have to have good chemistry with your co-workers. And so, like, and I think a great part about, like, these mockumentaries is kind of like the slight tension between everyone. Yeah, there is definitely tension. And between, like, my character and Melvin's character. on this show, our characters aren't, weren't allowed to speak to each other.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Mm-hmm. So the awkwardness had, it fed into the authenticity of the environment. How much is improvved on this show versus, like, scripted? Because, you know, usually in traditional, like, you know, scripted shows, writers are very like, hey, read what's on the paper. But we've heard, you know, we had Brian Baumgartner on in the past. And they, you know, there's a lot of stories that have come out about the, office since about some pretty iconic moments that were just kind of off the cuff or
Starting point is 01:23:24 improvved. How much improvisation did you guys get to do while filming this? That's a good question. Surprisingly, it's very scripted. Surprisingly, it's very, like, well thought out and planned out. We'll always do, like, Greg Daniels likes to do a lot of takes. And so we'll do, like, a lot of scripted takes. and then he'll also give us a chance to, like, run and play and do different things. And when that happens, the scene never ends. It just keeps going. It's just, yeah, it's just nonstop.
Starting point is 01:24:01 And then we go past lunch and then it gets late. Everyone's on overtime. So there's a lot of that. I don't know how much of that is used, actually. But, yeah, a lot of it is scripted. And I think because of the way it's written, it's hard to tell. It looks very improvised. Did you guys feel a lot of pressure with, I mean, you know, now knowing it's been picked up for a season two, you've been in other, like, popular shows like Santa Clara diet.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Did you have a sense or just was there pressure going in and then while filming it, did you guys feel like this is going to work? Or are you not sure how they're going to cut it so you're just like, I don't know, I'm just going to act. And I hope it turns out. Honestly, yeah, that was me. I can't speak for everyone, but I've done, like, I've done shows where people are like, this is going to be the biggest thing and it's going to change your life and you just watch, kid. And then I do it and I'm back at my day job. Like, hey, nobody's called. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:03 And I've done shows where I've had no expectations. Like I had no idea what was going to happen and then it just blows up. So I learned to just, like, not think about that. That's probably smart. Were there any, like, sitcom characters that you pulled any inspo from to play, Nicole? Or did you kind of just do your own thing? So before we started filming, Melvin, Chelsea, and I, we got to interview some real local newspaper journalists.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Oh, fun. And I had no idea what circulation was or, like, what a circulation person did. And that was one of the people that we got to interview. And Melvin made this comment. She's like this really sweet, older lady, like very tiny, very petite. And he was just like, you seem like such a nice lady. And she's like, oh, but I'm not. And I was like, that's great.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Like, that's great for Nicole. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. So it was like real life. Yeah. Do you think that this woman's going to know that you pulled up from her? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:09 He's going to watch you and be like, I see myself in Nicole. I hope she watches the show and sees herself in my character. Yeah. Did you have a favorite character on The Office? I think I was a gym stand, probably, the level-headed. Why do you make that face? You're like, yeah. I was just thinking, I was a creed.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I love creed. Oh, yeah. That's good. Classic. Kelly? Well, I meet Mindy Kayling. I'd have to love Kelly, love Mindy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Yeah. Did you, because you were in Never Have I Ever, the Mindy Kaling show, did you talk to her at all, like, about doing this? Yeah, it was probably towards the end of filming season one, and she had seen one of the pilot cuts, and we just messaged each other, and she told me how much she loved it and how she couldn't wait to see the rest of it. And she was very stoked, and it was really nice hearing that from Mindy. Yeah. Yeah, that is like legendary. Yeah. Have Mindy, like, compliment you.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Yeah. What was the worst job you've ever had? In real life. Probably, like, a cheese grater salesman. You were a cheese grater salesman. Yeah. It was, like, door to door? So what I would do is drive from, like, grocery stores to, like, grocery stores.
Starting point is 01:27:31 And I would set stuff up. And I would make an announcement and be like, hey, come to aisle five. You'll get a free gift. if you watch this demonstration. And I would have a 15, like, page monologue of demonstration that I would have to memorize, perform meat, grating cheese for 15 minutes, and then clean up for five minutes and then do it again. And that was what I did for, like, what kind of cheese? All types of cheese.
Starting point is 01:28:03 You could grate boiled eggs with it. You could grate cookies if you want to make pie crumble. Do you own the greater? now? I did once upon a time. I don't think I have it anymore. Did you believe in the product? It was all right. It was all right. That's real work. You've really made it. Yeah. It's like prop work. You're really, you're really leading in. Yeah. And what I learned from that job is like the more enthused I seemed about it, the less people bought it. And looking miserable grading cheese really, really sold the product. Yeah. So when I would do it, like I kind of
Starting point is 01:28:39 hated it, people would be like, yeah, I believe this woman. Give me three. That's great. It's going in everyone's Christmas talking. Grading cheese should be hard work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. That's so funny. You're from the LA area. I know you've bounced around all over. But like you mentioned having to go back to your day job. What was the job that you've had to do? Like once you got into acting and, you know, it's a process. Right. You might get a small gig here, a small gig there in between, you know, you never know. But what did you do to make ends of meat while chasing your dreams? Gosh, so much. I bar-backed a little bit. I worked at a bunch of restaurants. What else? I was a substitute teacher. I tutored. I worked at an after-school program. You graded a lot of cheese. Graded a lot of cheese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:39 If any of your other jobs were to become, like, a mockumentary, what do you think would make, like, the best? What do it, okay, can I say something that I hadn't done that I think would make a good mockumentary? Yeah, there's no rules. You can see whatever you want. I just made this question up. Like, maybe clown school. Ooh. Because people take that.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a dramatic art. It's, and it would be dramatic. Like, these clowns would be really serious and sad and fresh. frustrated really intense theater kids in makeup yeah that would be awesome any of the Christopher guys no I'm sorry I don't even know who that is the best in show waiting for guffman waiting for a mighty win a mighty win so what are these things that you two are naming they're movies they're
Starting point is 01:30:28 mockumentary they're improvised like best in shows about the the dog pageant yeah and then yeah waiting for guffman is like regional theater like Eugene levy and Do you have some of, like, your own personal favorite mockumentaries? I mean, I really like what we do in the shadows. Parks and Rec. Is that considered a mockery? Yeah. That was like a first office spinoff in a way.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yeah. And then it became, it got to be its own thing. Much like the paper. Much like the paper. I see. Yeah. Interesting. There was a lot of different opinions out there when they found out that this was all
Starting point is 01:31:07 going to be released at once. I was a big fan of it because I thought about how like the office or Parks and Rec kind of had like, well, certainly Parks and Rec because it went off the air and then it came back. But I feel like sometimes these shows, like it takes a bit to like get into the characters, right? And then like each character you really kind of fall in love with over time. And to me it's like a very bingeable show rather than like, you know, watching one episode, waiting a week, waiting for a cliffhanger.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Like do you agree, disagree? Do you like binging this type of stuff? I think our show in particular builds momentum as you watch it. So I'm actually really glad that it's dropping all at once. I think it gets like exponentially funnier as you keep going. So it's nice that people don't have to wait. What are you most excited for people to watch in paper? Just all the shenanigans we get into.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Because it gets more and more ridiculous and that's really funny. When you're not acting or studying, what are you watching on TV? It's like just a fan of TV. I've been watching one of my favorite shows is Love After Lockup. Have you seen that? No. Have I? I love it.
Starting point is 01:32:23 There we go. I love it. These people are interesting. Yeah. It's so interesting. Have you followed any of like the recent, like the people who are like, glorified because they're so attractive or not attractive, but they're like arrested and going to prison. Everyone's like, oh my God, I have to be their like pen pal. Yeah. Like I remember the one,
Starting point is 01:32:46 the most recent one that I saw was like Wade Wilson who was like this awful criminal. But he like was covered in tattoos and like when he didn't open his mouth because I think his teeth were rotting out from meth. When he didn't open his mouth, he was like kind of handsome. Yeah. Like you could model. Yeah. He could. And like everyone would be like making these thirst. trap videos of him and I feel like he would be the type that would be on love after lockup yeah you know like just the I feel like there was another guy who like got famous off his mugshot yeah there's a bunch yeah the one guy like became like famous a real like high end fashion model good for him yeah are you into any other like reality TV type of things
Starting point is 01:33:30 I really love like home makeover shows like I love seeing people flip their houses. I love watching say yes to the dress. Makes me cry all the times. She said yes. She said yes. Yeah. So you're like a TLC kind of girl.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Is that even a thing? A TLC girl? I think so. A lot of our always members are. We got dance moms on TLC. Say yes to the dress. Yeah. TLC's thriving.
Starting point is 01:34:06 It's incredible that way. I think the love after lockup might be on TLC. All right. So I feel like it is. All right. Fine. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Welcome it with open arms. Everyone's a Bravo girl. You need more TLC girls. It's so true. Not to give anything away and knowing that there's a season two coming along. Obviously like with the office
Starting point is 01:34:26 thinking back the character arcs that we got to see like Pam and Jim falling in love, getting married, having a kid for your character, Nicole. Uh-huh. What would be your
Starting point is 01:34:35 dream character arc you know fast forwarding this the the papers on for eight 10 seasons oh i don't know i'm almost afraid to say it because i don't want to jinx anything you know what i mean sure i would love to see my character's walls break down a little bit more i kind of want to see what's maybe going on inside like why she locks people in a room yeah exactly amongst other things like she's very guarded so i would love to see like what's underneath all All of that. What would be like nightmare scenario character art? She's killed off the show.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Yeah. She dies. You're out of a job. A journalist down in the line of fire. Have you ever been fired? Yes. Well, not fired. I've been gently let go.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Okay. Gently. What was the worst way you found out that you weren't going to be returning for any type of job? What was the worst way I found out? It was only one time. It would be the only time. The only time. Wait, how did you find out?
Starting point is 01:35:37 I just got a phone call. I said, don't worry about coming in today. Yeah, they were just like, you know, it's not you. Like, you're doing great. It's not you and me. They were just like, this cast is just way too big. It's getting out of hand. So we have to get rid of some characters.
Starting point is 01:35:56 And I was like, I understand. You're like, yeah, I agree. They got to go. They're like, but it's you. You're the one. and I was like emotional and I said something like you know this isn't going to make me quit acting
Starting point is 01:36:10 I'm going to keep going for it you know I said that to them I said that to them I was like I'm going to keep following my dreams everything's going to be okay yeah pretty much
Starting point is 01:36:23 she was like that's wonderful and then the next season they hired like a million more actors to be on that show so I was like It's fine. Well, now look at you. Sure.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I am here. You're on the paper. You're on the paper. Already renewed for second season. I sure am. I bet you that show didn't get automatically renewed for second season. Well, you know, I still love everyone. We love them.
Starting point is 01:36:52 No hard feelings. I get it. Whatever. If Nicole had never worked at The Trutheller, what do you think she would be doing? I think she would be working. on the dark webs, I think she would be hacking into people's computers. Edward Snowden. Yeah, Edward Snowden.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Do you feel like there's anyone who's like Nicole's type who's also, like a coworker who's also her type maybe? Well, she's into married men. So it's very toxic. Her character, not me. She's got some childhood trauma. She's got some drama going. going on.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yeah. Okay. That's exciting. That throws a wrench of the thing. It is what it is. I don't write the scripts. You just act from. Is it more fun to play a character that is a little like dark and different from who you are?
Starting point is 01:37:51 I don't really see Nicole maybe as dark. Maybe she'll get dark moving forward. But it's nice to have a character that's nuanced. Yeah. Was there anyone that you were like kind of? impressed with their performance. Everyone. I feel like everyone's so different, you know?
Starting point is 01:38:10 Yeah. Like, everyone brings something different. It's a really fun ensemble of just, like, a bunch of different kinds of people. And it really... Yeah, I think everyone really has a chance to, like, grow into their characters, and I'm really excited that got renewed. Because I feel like so many sitcoms, like, don't get renewed anymore. And then you see one season, you're like, it was getting to that point of, like,
Starting point is 01:38:31 you know everyone, and you're having so much fun. you're just hanging out with people you like and then it's gone and so it's really excited to see like where everything can go in season two and just to like see more of it have you been able to watch anything back yeah i haven't seen the last episode yet so i don't really know how it ends it could get really dark you don't know yeah you have some idea is there you played in a lot of in a lot of comedies is there like a part of you that wants to like is that your favorite genre to act in or are you thinking like you want to dip your toes into drama or thrillers or anything else i've never really thought of myself as a funny person
Starting point is 01:39:11 yeah and i don't get it still like i don't understand but i'm happy to be here yeah like i'm happy i got invited and we are also happy thanks you're welcome so you don't see yourself you do see yourself in some dramas and some thrillers because you don't think you're that funny i don't I don't know. Yeah, I could see myself in a lot of different things. Can you see yourself doing like the scream, like horror, like? Okay. I said I don't know. I'll draw the line right there. I would love to, but I don't know if I could do it without laughing, like a lot.
Starting point is 01:39:47 But I would love to. That sounds like so much fun. Maybe comedy horror. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mix the two. Well, what were you doing in the shadows is kind of a comedy. Comedy horror, in a way. More comedy less horror. Yeah. Scream also comedy horror.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Is it a comedy? Yeah. The original one? Yeah, the original one is... They're all pretty funny. They're kind of... There's some humor. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I like... My favorite movie is Silence of the Lams and that movie makes me laugh at times. Really? That's dark. I don't feel like that one's that funny. I don't know. Handwell, like, it's kind of a diva.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Yeah. Okay. It just makes me, like, giggle. I don't know. So, yeah, maybe I feel like there's so much. Yeah. I feel like there's so much. There's a lot of comedy and horror.
Starting point is 01:40:31 There is. I think Jordan Peel talks about that. A lot, like the timing and the rhythm. Yeah, I feel like people who are like really, really good at comedy also end up being like really good at horror because you're like hitting that like elevation at the same point. Do you have any dream actors you would like to work with or directors, maybe Jordan Peel? I really love Guillermo del Toro. I just love his work. I don't know if I'll ever get to work with him, but I'm just a big.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Speak it into existence. Yeah. Okay. Take it. I'm just a really big fan. Okay. Yeah. What about you guys? I feel like I'm definitely a...
Starting point is 01:41:11 Scorsese. You're a Marty. I'm a Marty. I'm a Marty. Do you see that for me? And taxi driver maybe? Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:41:21 I could see you in like a Tarantino thing, too. Yeah. Ooh, I could do that. Yeah. I love it. Mary's got a long list, I'm sure. He probably came up with WikiSheet. That's probably,
Starting point is 01:41:33 why am I really going in a dark direction today? You are? She said all her favorite ones are dead. Oh, it's like David Lynch with me off. No, not David Lynch. It just happened so recently it feels like. I don't know, Greta Gerwig. There we go.
Starting point is 01:41:48 A girl. Let's go. Yeah. It could be the lion and the witch or the wardrobe. Is she directing that? Yeah. Burnet plug. You sent me this.
Starting point is 01:41:58 that they canceled the Aristocats Live action movie. They were going to do it. Our daughter's really into Maristakats, so we are pretty excited about that. Do you have a favorite Disney movie? Like OG Disney? I love all like the 90s Disney stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:14 I think that was like peak Disney. Like Little Mermaid. That's like all we've been showing. Aladdin. No, we're into like the 60s and 70s. Okay. Like 101 Dalmatians. That was really that long enough?
Starting point is 01:42:26 I don't know why, but like 60s. Disney is like it's really beautiful aesthetically but it's also there's something like eerie about it for me like the Dalmatians was scary or like it's pretty intense Cinderella was scary yeah yeah that one is scary I like the artistry I definitely because you can see the animation yeah like in the artistry and the older ones it's like an uncanny valley thing of like seeing the animation is like a little freaky maybe it is yeah but I don't know 90s was like my favorite Disney era. Are you a little mermaid or Aladdin?
Starting point is 01:43:03 Aladdin. You recently watched it with her daughter. I didn't feel like it. He didn't like it. Why? Just, I don't know. I was like, I don't know, Jasmine, Aladdin. I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:14 He didn't believe the love. Jeannie? Robin Williams. Robin held up. Yeah. But the rest of the story, I don't know. I don't know what to say to that. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:43:26 What was the last time you watched it? It's been a while. So maybe you'll agree. I don't know. I don't think so. Okay. You're alone and not. Well, Rona, this has been so much fun.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Thank you for coming. Thanks for having. Where can people follow you, all that fun stuff, and watch the paper. Well, the paper's on now. Peacock. All the episodes are now available streaming when you listen to this. Yeah. Check it out.
Starting point is 01:43:48 And then where can people follow you on social? At Ramona, Bish, Young. Love her. Nice. Love that. I love her. What died for her. Love that bish.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Love that bish. I love that bish. Thanks for having me. This was so fun. Thanks for coming. Congratulations on everything. I can't wait to come back when this is like in its eighth season. Well, no, come back.
Starting point is 01:44:09 You don't have to wait eight seasons, but when you're a big, big, huge star. When you've won like 80, good Jillian Emmys, although Julie. Don't forget about us. Yeah. I, thanks. She already forgot about us. Well, sorry, am I. Who are you?
Starting point is 01:44:23 What am I doing here? Well, that will wrap up today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Justin, Sylvester and Ramona Young. We will see you back on Thursday. Thanks for listening. Bye-bye.

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