The Viall Files - Monét X Change & Daria Berenato Talk Traitors, The Valley: Persian Style, RHOBH & Blake/Taylor Texts

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

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going on everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vial Files reality recap edition also from a hotel edition. Yeah. How do I sound by the way? Good. Actually pretty good. Yeah. Not bad? Okay. I am your host, Nick, not joined by my wonderful, sexy, gorgeous, talented, stunning emotional support system for me in our family. Natalie Joy, because she is. a home with the family. Like many people in this country, we have been a part of the epic snowstorm that has really just affected millions and millions of people and thousands and thousands of home, people without power. We are one of those people, sadly, without power. So this morning, got in the car and drove to the nearest town that had occupancy in a hotel so I could get internet, so I could talk with y'all. The show must go on. as they say and not even a winter blizzard will affect me from showing up and doing my job,

which I'm sure many of you are very excited about. Anyways, I'm here. We have the household here, Sierra, Leah, Justin, Mary are all with us. We have a very exciting episode lined up for you today and some exciting announcements. A lot going on, obviously in the reality TV world, the pop culture world, kicking things off. Daria Baranado for all you W.W.E. fans. She joins us. Sadly, recently, she just

left the W.W.E. world and is joining its competitor, and she's here to talk with us all about that. She also has a story, scary story. Had like a stalker and it was like really dark and dangerous. She's also a huge Traders fan and she's willing to be breaking down this last episode

with us, including all the behind the scenes drama that's going on with the cast, the cyber bowling. It's a really, it's a dark situation going on right now. Also, from the Traders' cast, we have Monet with us to get his perspective of what is going on in and out of the castle. By the way, guys, if you haven't heard, we are a part of the Netflix is a joke festival.

If you've been like saying, why don't you guys do a live show? Well, now's your chance to see us live. On May 6 at 9.45 p.m. Nally and I, and members, of the household will be joined by the cast of Temptation Island. The upcoming season, the season you haven't seen. I hear it's incredibly sexy, fun, scandalous, full of drama. Our showrunner for Age of Attraction is the same showrunner for Temptation Island. So we get the inside scoop into you.

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and see as there. Also, Viile Files Plus is available. It's ad free for all of you people who don't want to listen to us talk about ads, which I don't know why you wouldn't want to hear us inform you of some amazing things that change our lives for the better. But if that's one of you, Vial Fow Plus is ad free. In addition to all the great content we are putting out on Vodafel Plus, including your deep dives, which is us breaking down even deeper into the shows that you love watching and we love talking about. Also, your pop extra round up all your juicy pop culture topics we didn't get to talk about this week and our update plus special where we update you on some of your favorite ass Nick callers. Anyways, did you guys have any bad weather out in L.A.? It's like I wish I don't know why we weren't in L.A. I poorly planned. I don't mean to laugh at you, but no, no, we did it. It was actually like a really nice, beautiful.

It was sunny. In the mid-70s. Oh my God. I had like, I had an improv show and then afterwards my friends and I, we sat outside. I'd had some more. How did your improv show go, Mary? Did anyone from the household come and support and watch you? Susie, homie, Susie Evan showed up. Everyone else fucking hates me and doesn't like to see me.

I would have been there, Mary, if I had better planned to be in L.A. that weekend. No, you just don't care. That's fine. I'm shocked that Sierra, Leia, and Justin did not come to support you. I was so close to going, but I had. So close. Really bad sinus infection. Leah did specifically text me.

You thought about it really hard. No, no, I texted Mary. I was planning on going, but I have this, have had this sinus infection for over a week now. And I am. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I literally would have been just snorting all the whole time. Blah, blah. That's what you sound like to me right now.

You know when you're like stifling a cough or a sneeze or like something and you just start sweating and it's like the worst feeling ever? Uh-huh. I was, I, I, I. Wait, you sweat from a sneeze? No, when you're trying to stifling a sneeze. It's full it in. You know what would have helped with that?

So not sneezing makes you break out and sweats? Improvised comedy from people with barely any experience. When I'm in a situation where I like, I got a cough or a sneeze coming and I know it's inappropriate to let that out. I start profusely sweating and I feel very anxious and it's awful. Well, that's how I felt on stage. You're an improver's dream, Leah. They just be like, what, give me a word and you'll like sneeze and sweat. I would have been the butt of the joke.

They all would have been like, who's this person who won't stop sneezing. You're a content rich. audience member. Mm-hmm. I think you would have brought a lot of energy to the audience. Well, it would have distracted from me, which is the idea. It went fun. Mary, I think you did amazing.

And I would have loved to know more than a day before. I did kind of procrastinate, shocker. And Leah and I were there every day encouraging you to go to the actual classes when you said you didn't want to go. So we're very proud of you. Well, everyone, Natalie does say hi and wishes she could be with you all. but she is home with her mom and our daughter. We're one of the lucky ones.

We have, thankfully, we have natural gas stoves and like a natural gas fireplace. So that's been cranking. So we have some heat to stay warm. A lot of people affected by the snowstorm do not have those things. And yeah, it's scary out there. So stay safe, stay warm. If you have been affected by the snow storm,

do you guys want to talk about Chrissy Tegan? never pooping in front of John Legend. And I always want to talk about poop. Well, I also have a poll because... Why? I have a poll. It's at the top of my mind at this moment in time. Yes.

I got into an argument with Danny this weekend because he put Louis, by the way, is starting to go to the bathroom on a big boy toilet. What? I know. The other day, he looked at us, 18 months. The other day he looked at Danny and he said, Pooh, poo, poo. And Danny was like, you have a poo? And he looked in his diaper and there was nothing

there. And he was like, do you need to go poopoo? And Louie said, poopo, poop. And Danny took him to the toilet and put him down and he pooped in the toilet. Oh my God. And he did it again this morning. Sweet so we bought him a little toilet. You have a boy genius. He's potty training himself. I don't know what to say.

I'm shocked. I wasn't ready. He is a genius. I love that kid. That's impressive. Boss baby. Boss baby on the toilet. He kind of looks like the boss baby. He kind of does. Anyway, so we got into an argument because we were in a public restroom and Danny put

Louis bare butt on the toilet. And I just about had a panic attack. And I said, why are you putting my baby's pure, beautiful butt on a public toilet seat where everybody else puts their butt? And then Danny said, well, I've never used a toilet seat cover. And I said, excuse me? What do you mean? Divorce.

I've never used a toilet seat cover. I've never used a toilet seat cover. We've talked about this. Do whatever I can to not use a public restroom in certain situations that would necessitate a toilet. But if you had to, you would just go bare bottom. Yeah. If you really had to go, the shits have hit. Yeah, you have no time to make it to a private toilet.

Clearly, I don't have time to lay down. Yes, you do. Yes, you always have time. I don't know. It takes two seconds. Guys, I don't know. I think that's a bit unnecessary. Have you ever put your hand?

You know when you're at the airport? That's even worse! Do you know when you're at the airport and you know the tracks that kind of help you walk faster? Do you ever put your hand on the rail while you're doing that? Do you actually walking? Like, do I put my hand on an escalator? My hands exist in my pockets at airports because I like to look suspicious. But have you ever put your hand on like a rail?

Well, sometimes because if I'm weighing out my options and falling. Most of the people's thighs are sitting on the toilet cover seat while other people's hands. are like transferring like I'm just saying objectively speaking it's more gross to put your hand you shake other people's hands when you meet them you don't bump butts hey Leah you know how you have had a sinus infection and I'm being getting sick a lot maybe it's because you use a toilet seat cover and like you yeah your body isn't fully like you know stable it's too it's too hygienic yeah I think you need to rub a little dirt in it no Leah I'm with you I'm with you I think the germs that you guys are exposing yourself with her hands is totally different than the germs on a toilet seat the fact that y'all aren't getting UTIs on a day-to-day basis. No, I've been fine. How with that? Listen, I am no doctor, but I don't think that's how you get a UTI.

For the ladies in the room. But you're not. That's how it's a toilet seat? Fine, fine, then worms. You're not like worms. Worms, yeah. Bud pimples. I butt pimples.

Where exactly are you, I don't, I'm getting into the weeds here. But like, how, again, you're putting your, if you're, think about when you sit on a toilet seat. Yes. What exactly touches the toilet seat? Your outer thigh? My butt. No, no.

Your butt literally shouldn't be. Are you pooping on the seat itself? I don't poop. Are you keen on the seat? Layas never actually... It goes on the hole. It splashes. Well, it may splash, Justin.

I mean, that's between you and your digestive system, but I'm just simply saying the toilet seat cover ain't helping you with the splash. I'm unwell. I just feel like... I agree with you, Nick. Oh, not the splash. All right, let's move on.

The reason we're talking... So, Paul, let us know in the comments. Do you use a toilet seat cover or not? Let us settle this debate. Should I divorce my husband? Lay and Sarah, I do get very irritated when you try to put the cover down and it, like, activates the, like, automatic flush. And then you have to redo it, and it's like, bro.

And then, like, you have, like, static hands, and it, like, sticks to your hand, and you're just like, then you end up touching... That's never happened to me. You guys, you know what, how many times I've touched a toilet seat... a public toilet seat cover with my bare hands, zero, because I'm not dumb enough to be like, how do I put this thing on a toilet seat? Okay. Anyway, why did we even bring this up?

The reason I bring this up is because Chrissy Teigen and John Legend tell us how they keep their 12 years spark alive. And it's because she doesn't fart or poop in front of him. As she jokingly put it, for all he knows, I have never farted or pooped. You got to keep the sexy and preserve the sex. sexy in a little bit of ways. I won't say that John necessarily does that all the time, but I make sure that I do. This sounds like a nightmare. This sounds like a lot of work. Once you put a ring on it. This sounds like a lot of bloating. I mean, if this is a lot of work to you, then how are you going to get through a marriage? I mean, I never said I was built that way. Well, I get through my marriage by pooping in front of my husband. In front? Well, sure. If he needs to like get in there. If you guys ever seen those like his and hers little like tandem toilets? What do you mean if he needs? What do you mean if he needs? needs to go in there.

Like what, there's no, how many bathrooms do you have to live? Well, I don't poop, but if I did, I have two bathrooms, but now one of them has a baby toilet on it,

which can easily come off, but I'm too lazy to do it. Okay, but again, well, if Danny needs to use the restroom and you're in the restroom, doesn't he have to wait his turn anyways?

Well, I'm just saying, I'm just running, what's a situation where he can't possibly wait where he needs to walk in while you're sitting on the can. Well,

let's reverse this for him. second if he's on the toilet and I need to like grab something from the bathroom and I'm late to work I'll run in there grab my stuff and leave Natalie never talks about it she's very she's very chrisie teak and coded um and the you just don't talk about it when I use the restroom if I have to pee it's like I got I got to go pee and then otherwise it's like I need to use the restroom and then now right now they'll try to like out me she's like yeah yeah yeah you know and I'm like are you What are you talking about? I've never done that.

We play done. We pretend it doesn't exist. I think that's a good way to do it because it's like you're still able. Yeah, it's like you're still able to process what you need to process internally, biologically, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But you do get to be a little tongue in cheek about it and keep that spark alive. But then, River outed me. We are in an area where a fart was heard. She's right there.

I won't say by whom. And River was like, da-da. It wasn't me. That's when you say River. But River basically was like, hey, when Dad and I wake up in the morning, he makes coffee and feeds me breakfast, apparently he's, you know, it's like, River's the tree in the woods that you think no one's listening. And my daughter was and she told the world.

And then you just told even more of the world right now. I will say, though, kids and dogs are great scapegoats. Mozart. Come on. Someone tell you're evil, Leah. Yeah. Do you guys know what else is going on? What else is going on, Mary? I'm sure you've heard that Blake Lively and Taylor Swift's texts have been released. I'm sure everyone here has thoughts on it.

All of these text messages are just wild. You know, sometimes... But by the way, if my texts with my best friend were revealed, I would be... I would have to, like... I would go to jail. I would go to jail. I thought these texts were, like, quite sweet and endearing. I know. They're lucky. You had Blake lively, you know, have we ever not felt like you got, you know, a little disconnected for whatever reason from your friend? And it's, I mean, I don't think we need to read all the texts or out there. Many of you have read them. But it was like basically Blake reaching out to Taylor being like, hey, listen, I feel a little disconnect between us. I know I've had a lot going on referencing the Justin Beldonie drama of it all and acknowledging that she's kind of probably like been a little focused on her personal drama, which like, how many of us wish we had friends who.

would recognize when they were kind of like going through it and you know it's like because often when we have like drama in our life that's really like weighing us down we often like feel justified to like kind of like center our own emotions and feelings and forget about the people around us which is like very human and common to do but like then she goes and recognizes it brings it up and then taylor like her response was very like yeah you've kind of been like that but i can like i empathize because I've been there before. At no point, are they like scheming as all the Justin Baldoni trolls and stands? It was like somehow they've turned this narrative into like, you know, basically trying to

pit Taylor and Blake against each other and all this trauma. And you have this kind of very sweet exchange between two friends, one of them going through it, the other person, like, you know, recognizing that and just like having like an honor conversation. It was like kind of endearing in a way that I don't think most people appreciate. The one thing I really want to say about this is that if it is wrong to text your girl and call a man a bitch, arrest me. Literally. Because I'm doing much, I'm doing much worse than that. I mean, listen, again, like the Justin, the Justin Bononi stands and trolls are like cherry picking stuff. It's like, well, Taylor called Justin a bitch. Like, okay. Like, maybe he was being a

jerk. It was like, oh, allegedly Ryan Reynolds made fun of just. mocked Justin Bildonia's movie. It's like, what would you do if someone your wife was working with was making her feel uncomfortable and creepy and then launched a online PR smear campaign, which Justin has pointed out several times, like isn't even like debated at this point. Like the company tag, they, the company that Scooter Braun, I think it is either owns or associated with, allegedly, I'm not, you know, don't quote me on that scoot. Scoot, scoot.

As like, that same PR company has now been linked to other smear campaigns around the globe. It was just like, again, I keep saying this because I think it's so scary that, like, people can do this. And people can create inorganic smear campaigns against regular people or against their competitors. And the fact that, like, you know, we've seen the traders PR obviously release that statement. we'll get into it shortly. But I think it's just like the world of online bullying and the way these smear campaigns get created and the way it's all very inorganics. And it's just so easy how narratives can be changed online.

And when you actually have companies that specialize in doing this, it should, it should scare all of us. But anyways, it was kind of cool to see those two friends like hash out a disconnect in a way that I think all of us can relate to. I will say we did discuss. us in depth on Plus, so please listen if you're not. But I will say these texts do confirm that it was kind of premeditated for Taylor to be in the room for that one. So what?

They referenced. That being said, like, I think that doesn't negate the whole conversation of retaliation and the fact that Blake was in a position that she needed. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't, why is that even like something that's like, oh, Ryan Reynolds made fun of Justin Beldoni? It's just like, okay, yeah. So a friend was there to support her friend at a time where she was like. from a guy who like often made her feel uncomfortable. My big thing with this case is just like, why is it,

I think we should be pro when some guy is being really fucking weird and gross to every single woman he's around, making fun of them. Yeah, also Melissa Nathan saying that she's, that Perez Hilton is in her circle of BF trust. Yikes. I feel like that says a lot within itself, but we can leave that there. Well, yeah, I mean, like, again, it's like, it's, The world of these crisis PRs, it's a dirty, dirty world.

And like a lot of like the public figures who have been pro Justin, they're all associated with his lawyer. Every single one of them. And it's those same people who are out there like alleging that like it's that everything they're accusing Blake of is literally what they're doing for Justin. It's kind of crazy. Our next guest is Daria Baranado. And she has a very fascinating story for all you WWE fans. out there, you certainly know the name. She has recently left the WWE and is now with TNA continuing her wrestling career. And I think there's a lot of speculation as to why she left

WWE. She also has a absolutely insane story that trigger warning has a little bit of darkness to it. It does involve a stalker. But she's very open about what happened with that experience and was gracious enough to share her very insane story with us and kind of the fallout and give a little insight of what it's like to be on that end of that situation. She's also a huge fan of this season of The Traders. So we get into episode six with her and talk about some of our favorite things from the past episode. Also, we have a very exciting going deeper this Wednesday. Seth Rollins and his wife, Becky Lynch, another professional wrestler. Join us to talk about the world of professional wrestling. It's honestly, it's like the OG reality.

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Thanks to Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode. Dario, welcome to the show. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Super excited to have you. Lots to get into. both with your journey in the professional resting space,

and obviously I know you're watching Traders, so I'm really curious about what you have to say about the world of the traders, both on the show and, like, a lot of the discourse that is happening outside the show with, like, the cyberbullying and the comments that Traders USA has made and things like that. I'm very fascinated with the world of WW.

I kind of refer it to as, like, the original reality TV when I was a kid growing up watching it in the days of, like, macho man, Randy Savage, and Jake the Snake Roberts and people like that. It was like we kind of knew it was fake, but they wouldn't really talk about it, you know, in a sense. It was like it was real. Yeah.

And I feel like reality TV, when it originated, it was like, you know, it was real, but like no one wanted to talk about some of the inauthenticity of reality TV and how it worked. And it's kind of fascinating now that in the W and the wrestling, people talk about like the word like heel, right? You're a villain in that space and like fans know about it. Have you been or were you a heel? Have you gone back and forth in your space?

So many things to say. First of all, I'm so hooked on traders right now. It's disturbing. I'm currently watching three of the seasons simultaneously, which, whoa. Yeah, it wasn't the greatest idea. I started the newest season. And then I caught up and I was upset that I couldn't watch anymore since last Thursday. And then I started season three. And then my manager wanted to watch with me. So I started. started season two with him. And so now I'm like scattered all over the board. But to answer your other question, I was a heel and am a heel my entire career. Oh, your entire career. My entire career, all 10 and a half years of it. And I have never been a baby face and I don't care to be. It's so much more fun to be hated than it is to attempt to be liked. Like that sounds horrifying to me. It's like

stand-up comedy. Like let me get up there and try to make you like me and laugh. That sounds horrifying. So I'm curious. How do fans in that space? engage with you because like you know for example in my world right like I went out you know a long time I was the bat I went on the bachelor I was the villain didn't I didn't try to be didn't want to be and you go into this space like you know kind of just hoping people don't hate your fucking guts oh right and then people are like I hate your fucking guts and like they're just like tearing you to shreds and it really obviously can affect your mental health I mean over the years I've gotten much better at like you know like I've I disconnect I just check out I go

to my family, I do my thing. But like, it's hard. But like, I guess as a heel, is a villain in wrestling, are fans engaging with you as the bad person and you just have gotten good like myself at disconnecting from that reality? Or are fans like, do they root for you and like you as a bad guy or is a little bit of both?

So it's very 50-50 in the wrestling world. You have the fans who truly believe you're a piece of shit and they're going to hate you. And, you know, I've gotten death threats. I've gotten, you know, hate mail. And then there's the other 50% that appreciate the good acting and, you know, enjoy booing you out of the building. And so it's very 50-50.

And like I said, I've never been a good guy. And I had this really weird moment. I just re-debued in the wrestling company TNA two weeks ago now. And I did this thing where I came out pretending to be a good guy for the first time. ever and I didn't know if the fans were going to buy it and they bought it and they were cheering for me and then like 30 seconds into me cutting a promo I turned on them again and it was the weirdest 30 seconds of my life because I was like oh my god this is what it feels like to be like so like it's so unrelatable for me and then when I turned on them and they were all booing me I was like yeah

this is what I like but it is very different from what you experienced because that was like them hating your natural like you. Whereas, well, yeah, or like the, or the you that the TV, the me that the networks decided to show their version of, so to speak.

And I've dealt with that. You know, I did total divas and tough enough. I did reality TV. And I dealt with that too where it's like, oh, they really are disliking this version of me that has been put out there and that can be different. But yeah, with wrestling, no, I embrace the hate. Well, for all the W.W.E. fans who are sad

to see you leave that world, I know there's been a lot of like discourse and speculation on why you left WWE to join TNA. And I was just curious, like, do you have any like theories feelings or is it just more like a business decision and it is what it is? Well, so I was with WWE for like nine and a half years and my contract was coming to an end and we were in negotiations to resign. I was under the impression that we were resigning. And I was told that. And then at the ninth hour, I got a call. And they were like, hey, we decided we're not going to do that anymore.

And so I was as surprised as anybody else was. But that being said, I'm very like, everything happens for a reason. And I know it sounds like cliche or whatever. But I really do believe that. And so I was like, okay, it wasn't meant to be. I have so many dreams, so many things I want to do. And being with TNA, we just got a TV deal. We're on AMC every Thursday night now for TNA impact.

And I can also do so many other things. I have the freedom time-wise and also contractually that I can still act and do my podcast and do all the other things I enjoy doing. So it's kind of like best of both worlds right now. It's a good spot for me. Well, that's, yeah, a lot of more flexibility and freedom. And what's different about the TNA world and the WW world other than a lot more freedom for you to pursue other endeavors? Yeah, I mean, TNA's been around since like 2002.

So it's one of like the longest standing wrestling companies there is. So, like, there's people that have been there for a decade, decades, and they just got this big TV deal. So it's kind of like a really hungry environment. Everyone's like, we effing did this. And I'm kind of coming in as the new guy now. I mean, obviously having my tenure somewhere else. But it's exciting. It's a lot of people from WWE that are there that I knew from our time together before.

And then it's a lot of new people that I've never met before. So it's interesting. But it's like everyone's trying to, like, make it. It's like a fire in the locker room. You have this very crazy, dark story of this stalker. Are you comfortable talking about that? Yeah, yeah, that's fine. He's in jail.

Well, yeah, you had this crazy situation. I mean, like, it's one thing, you know, to have like an online stalker and that can make you feel really uncomfortable. But you had literally someone, is, am I reading this? Like, break into your house? Yeah. Like, can you shed some light? on that and how that all went to be. And like, I guess, like, what, was there any lesson that you

learn from that experience? Get a dog and get a gun. Yeah, I mean, no, I'm kidding, but, but not really. But, yeah, I was in my house in Tampa. My best friend Mandy, who was also part of the WB roster at the time, was sleeping over. Thank God, I wasn't alone. And yeah, it's really creepy. We were, we were hanging out on the couch watching Bates Motel for hours, which, if that doesn't That's the vibe. Oh my God, I know. I look back at that and I'm like, I'll never watch that show again. But anyway, so we're just like hanging out, having a good night, like almost like an eerily good night.

And we were falling asleep on the couch. It was like midnight maybe. And I was going to just let us sleep on my couch. And then I was like, you know what, no, let's go to bed. So I was like, Mandy, get up. Come on, go in the guest bedroom. And I went in my bedroom. And it's so funny because I always sleep with the TV on.

But that night I was like so tired. I was like, oh, I don't need the TV on. But I did grab my phone and go to my ADT app and set my alarm, which I'd been lazy some nights and not done that. Sure. Yeah. So I set my alarm. Then I threw my phone in my bed and it's pitch black and I go to sleep. And then two hours later, the alarm's going off.

And, you know, it's like that blaring alarm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I immediately pop out of bed and I'm like, what the hell? And it's dark and I can't find my phone. And so I run to the ADT panel on the wall. and it says living room door open. And I'm like, oh, Mandy must have gone outside to talk to. Or maybe I didn't fully close it completely or something.

Right. Or the wind or like something. But they're sliding glass doors and whatever. So the first thing I do is run to Mandy's room to make sure it's her that's outside. And I'm like, Mandy, Mandy, Mandy. And she's like, what? And she's half asleep in bed. And I'm like, holy shit. I'm like, stay here.

Someone's in the house. And so I just then had that instinct. So I run to the kitchen, I turn on all the lights, and there's blinds drawn across the two doors that it could be. They're both sliding glass doors. They're perpendicular to each other. And they both have curtains drawn on them. So I can't see which one is open. So I don't know why this was my instinct, but I go to the doors to lock them or make sure they're locked.

Because surely anyone that's there will now have ran because the alarm system is going off is what I'm thinking. And so I peel back the curtain to the door that I always. use and I'm like making sure the lock is pushed up and I look up and he's a man is right there on the other side of sliding glass door. Oh my God. So I'm like holy shit. So I just start like yelling towards him thinking like obviously it's a robbery. He hears the alarm going off. He now sees the homeowner like surely he's going to run and he walks one step toward me and there's the glass door in between us and I'm like holy shit this is not a robbery. So I really run. I had indoor cameras. So if you go on YouTube, you can find this video. There's a video. When I run, the other door was the one he had open. So he just crosses through the curtains and comes in after me. But that one second of blind spot that he had crossed through the curtain, he thought I ran up the staircase, but I had ran right behind the staircase to grab Mandy and run out the garage. So five seconds later when the cops,

basket there. He's standing at the bottom of the staircase with a knife in one hand and pepper spray in the other hand looking up. They fucking tackle him. We're outside of my car. You know, I like peeled out of the driveway in my car. Went around the block came back. Cops are guns drawn in my garage. They're like, is this your house? And I'm like, yeah, they're like, stay the fuck back. And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm still not like understanding what's happening. So long story short, two seconds later, we're sitting in my car watching my house with the headlights, pointed on my front yard and they come out with a man like wiggling in handcuffs. And I'm like, what the hell is going on?

The cops go right into the police car and I guess start just like giving him basic questions trying to figure out what happened. And they come back to us 10 minutes later and they're like, what do you guys do for a living? Oh, we wrestle at WWB and they're like, and the guy's like, oh, I don't really know what that is. And I'm like, oh, the rock, John Cena. And he's like, oh, okay. He's like, well, he's saying you guys are friends, but he keeps bringing up wrestling. And I'm like, what is this guy's name?

First thing, I'm like, what is this guy's name? Let me look him up in my Instagram. Long story short, he had been messaging me for like four years. And then essentially it led to his last message we found was, I'm finally here. I'm on your back patio. Oh, my God. I'm going to see you soon and I'm going to kill that bitch. side with you. So, and if you go back to read the messages chronologically, as I of course had to do for

the cops and everything later, you see that he had been telling me in my messages for years. I'm coming. He drove down from South Carolina. He worked at Applebee's. He saved up money for gas to get from South Carolina to Florida. He parked in a church a mile from my house. Army crawled behind the wetlands through my gated because it was a gated community but the wetlands weren't gated. So we army crawled through the wetlands. Oh my God. Cut a hole in my screened in Lanai. I mean like it was very premeditated, very planned out. And did I mean what what, what, do you know what happened with this guy? Oh yeah. Of course. We, um, we were about to go to trial, uh, two, years ago now. And then he took like the highest plea my team gave him, which we, we just threw

it out there as like a man, if he takes this, this, this, will be great, but if not, let's go to trial. He's guilty as all hell. It'll be easy. But he took a 15-year deal. So he's in jail for 15 years. Jeez. That's literally like my way. Well, I'm so sorry that happened to you, first of all. But like how does a, you know, my wife, who obviously couldn't be here today, but like she, you're just the idea there. You know, like people talk about intruder syndrome. And, you know, I've had friends, you know, obviously who live at L.A., who've had their house broken into. Thankfully, when they're not there, you know, just like a And just that feeling of like someone kind of knowing you live and being willing to do that obviously can truly, you know, affect your psyche and mental health. How did you work through that trauma that, that obviously must have been very debilitating and scary? Yeah, I don't know that I'm very good at like that. I don't know that I really like sat and worked through it. But organically, the process for me was yeah, like initially I was paranoid as hell for like the first year after. I would like sleep. I went and got my right to carry.

in Florida and I would sleep like gun in hand every single night. I wouldn't go to sleep until the sun came up. And I lived like that for a long time. And then I got really exhausted and was like, okay, I can't sustain this. And so then I got my Rottweiler. And, you know, I got a roommate, which was kind of like really important to me at that point. Like I was like, I don't think I can live alone for a minute. Just, yeah, just being in a house alone just was the thing that kind of freaked me out. And so yeah, and then, you know, I just woke up one day and I just was kind of over it. And I was like, you know what? I'm really friggin lucky. So many women and people in general get stalked for years. And it's very hard to prosecute a stalker until they kind of cross that threshold that gets into

the legalities. And so I consider myself lucky that this dude was dumb enough to go for it and thankfully failed. And now he's in jail. So I look at myself as like one of the best case scenarios, whereas people deal with stalkers, like putting shit in their mailbox showing up on their property for years and can't prosecute them because they didn't make a threat to their lives. Right. And I think the laws around that need to change as well because it's a bunch of bullshit. I fully agree. Yeah. That's a crazy story.

Yeah, it's wild. But yeah, to your point, I think it's, yeah, we, you know, it's something you hear about but not know much about. And that last part is fascinating because, yeah, I mean, I think it does happen where people, experience similar behaviors against them and don't feel safe knowing that the person who did that to them is still out there. Yeah. I mean, the laws are wacky. It's like you can't get a restraining order against someone unless you're in a relationship with them. At least that's how it works in the state of New Jersey. And so what? And then you have to get this VASPA order, but then when you give the VASPA order, it'll come from your hometown court. So then if they don't know

exactly where you live, like now they will. And so, yeah, there's just a lot of stuff. I've been speaking with officials and law enforcement for a while now trying to work on some of this. But that's to come in the future, hopefully. Like, how are you able to compartmentalize? Because your job, right, where you're saying that you're used to people kind of associating you with being a villain. Right. And then you have an experience like that where it's like, but you're also a public figure where your job is to be very out there. Like, how do you compartmentalize your mental health and your safety plus how you interact with fans? Yeah, I don't know that I'm the best example of this.

I really, like, I look at that as a one-off experience. I look at that as, like, that's the bad apple. And I don't just lump all fans. Like, I love my fans. And I'm still the schmuck that, like, at the airport, if 10 of them would come up to me, like, I'm signing all of their autographs. And a lot of people frown upon that. Or some people don't do it or they hate it. And I do understand, like, yeah, when I'm, like, eyes crusted shut at 6 a.m. at the airport, do I want to stop and take pictures?

No, but I still will. And so I really don't have any kind of like jaded animosity towards fans. You know, it's one bad apple. And, you know, I won't lie. I've had situations since that were creepy and stalkerish. And yeah, I hate those motherfuckers. But I'm not going to like out my entire fan base because of a few bad ones. You know, there's great fans that have supported me since day one.

And so, yeah, I just think people in general can be shitty. Right, right. You know? Can't hold one accountable. Well, speaking of shitty. people. Unfortunately, the cast of Traders is under some crazy fire and there's some online bullying and cyber bullying going on. I just need to point out my favorite part of Traders this season

because we talked about the cast a little bit. Lisa fucking Renna is my favorite person in the entire world. A, well, she's iconic. We know that. But like, I love that she knows she's iconic. Yeah. And I'm fucking Renna. Lisa fucking Renna. Harry Hamlet Like She's so Former sexiest man alive People magazine

I know I know Yeah no She's amazing She makes the show for me I love Rob What's his name Roush

Snake guy Rob Roush He's handsome He's charming He's playing it so well Like I think he's great Did you see Lisa's commentary On Rob Or she was like

His charm doesn't work on me Because I'm married to Harry Hamlet I feel She's so good She's so good And she's so right Like I love it

Yeah And like, what's his rap report? Yep. Michael. Listen, you know this. In reality shows you need the polarizing characters. Even if they annoy the crap out of you or if they're obnoxious, like, you need them. And I think sprinkling them in there is great for the show.

And, you know, of course he wasn't going to make it very far. I think you made a lot of enemies really quick. One of the funniest things is the shoveling the food off the plate. It gets me like. doubled over. Like, I can't handle it. It's so great. It's one of my favorite things ever.

What was another funny bit? Oh, when Rob corrects him for not knowing the right definition of commiserate. And then Michael's like, no, it's not. And it's like, bro. Rob said it was such conviction that the second time Michael was like, all right, maybe I should back off.

He probably does know what it means more than I do. But, like, moments like that, like, that's reality TV gold. Yes. So, like, you know, you need the baby faces. need the heels. And so, you know, I think all in good fun, it's, this season is amazing for me. When Underwood went up to Renna and was like, you know, he's, he's out there just throwing accusations at every single person without like much behind it. So I don't think he gets much props for actually guessing Renna right because it's like all his other. It's like eventually

you're going to get to someone who's a traitor. If you just go down the list and like kill them all, You know, what's the saying of broken clock is right twice a day. And like, you know, he's playing the broken clock strategy. And which is why like it's, you know, like I think most people when they go, if they imagine the opportunity to go on traders would like to like you, what's the goal? Right. If you're a faithful, you hope to figure out who the traders are, right? And then you shouldn't tell anyone, right?

Like you should try to make alliances with these people, but not tell them. And Renna was right for not believing him because, like, he was already lying because he had already told how many other people that he thought Renno was a traitor. And then he goes up to Renna and approaches her like, hey, listen, I figured it out. Don't tell anyone. But like, let's make alliances. Yeah. I think he's trying to be slick and like do something on never been done before and be innovative and all this stuff. And, you know.

But if he actually knew she was a traitor and really believed it and actually had like real. evidence and a real conviction, then I don't think he would have gone up to anyone else and told them Renna was a traitor. I think he would have just like just make alliances with Renna rather than playing both sides to the camera. Well, there is there is the vantage point of, you know, when you publicly say you think someone's a traitor, you're kind of safe that next murder because they're afraid to murder you because it's too obvious, right? That's a whole like strategy. I don't know. I don't know. But I think I'd fucking kill it as a faithful. I don't, I wouldn't want to be a traitor. Yeah, I'd want to be a faithful. And like, you know, you see people go on every season and their whole claim to fame of why they're going to win is I'm such a good judge of character, but then like, you see them be like the worst judge of character. And you see them like, I mean, like, like Tom Sandival like in his season, he was like so adamant about so many people. And he's like kind of always wrong until the end. They were like, all right, sweetie. They just sit down. I mean, that was some of the funniest. Oh my God, that was some of the funniest TV as well. But no, like I'm actually a. A.

wild good judge of character and I feel like I'd fuck up the traitor. I feel like I'd just be able to pick them out. You recognize a heel. I'd want to be a faithful. You'd want to be a faithful, right? Being a traitor, there's too much lying. I feel like I'm just a really, you know, I think I'm a bad liar. I think, you know, like, I think, well, whether I'm a faithful or traitor, I think if like I'm getting accused, I think I would just look guilty. I just don't think I'm, right? It's like, what do you say? It's like, how do I deny that I'm not something? How do I deny something I can't prove? 100%.

And I, when I get nervous, I, like, will laugh. Yeah. And so if someone's, like, really pressing me and I'll be a faithful, they're like, you're a traitor. I'd be like, I just start awkwardly laughing. And then I would look guilty as hell and I would get banished. Well, even with the whole thing that happened with Ron, that was kind of crazy where it was like, he was like, I'm a faithful. And then he was like, I'm not going to waste my time defending myself. I'm going to go down and tell each of you, like, what I loved about being on this experience.

I love that he did that. I thought it was so charming. I love Ron. And the fact that they still were like, they were like, he has to be a faithful. No traitor would do this. And then they still vote him out and he's a faithful. And I'm like, you guys. No, and that's what I don't get.

It's like, yeah, how did Ron get kicked off? Because I get it. He had like a bad rap how I don't know leading up to, you know, that turret. Right. The turrette. The roundtable, yeah. And the episodes started with Johnny Rear kind of like building a coalition against Colton. I think they got too scared to get Colton.

I agree. By whose standards? You know what? I want to see on Traders one day. What? And I feel like they could have done it with Michael, which they kind of did it with Michael. But for like more, it was less strategic. They did it because they just like hated them.

Yeah, yeah. It was personal. It was personal for sure. It was less strategic. But with Colton, I want someone to be like, yo, to be honest, I don't think you're a faithful. But what I think you are is a huge distraction. to the faithful and you don't work with the faithfuls and I think if I were a traitor I would want to keep you around by how you're going around accusing a bunch of people so I think us faithful should

vote your ass out because like you're not you're you're just you only think about yourself and I would I want to see that I want to see them not like because I and I think sometimes they get wrapped up because like I don't think Colton's playing like a traitor traders aren't usually that aggressive. You know what I'm saying? They're late more. And I think he's just, he's just kind of bullying and dominating the house with his big personality. I think it's going to happen. So I think you're right. And I think

they're on to that. And I think it's going to happen. But there's something about this game when there's low hanging fruit. You kind of got to just pick it. Because it's a numbers game. Right. And it's like, there can't be. But I, yeah, but I'm just confused. How was Colin able to get that many votes for Lisa? And then where was Johnny in his coalition. Did anyone vote for Colton? No. They fell apart. I mean, that's why when they make the

promises earlier in the day, I'm like, yeah, we'll see what happens when you get to the roundtable. Because I think the round table is like the strong persevere. We see it time and time again. Whoever has the strongest personality, because a lot of people sitting at that table, they don't want to be the outlier. They don't want to be the dick that says, I think it's this random person we never spoke about, because then they get shit on. And I think a lot of what this game comes down to, and another reason I think I'd be great at it, is because everyone is so. Everyone is so. so scared to say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing or look like the asshole, except for the couple that, like, want to look like the asshole. But like, most people don't want to stand out

at the roundtable. They kind of want to be like, what does everyone else think? And so I think there's something to when they get to the roundtable, whoever speaks first kind of rules the vote. When you watch what happens, too, is because the entire roundtable backfires, heaven forbid, you are the one leading the crusade and you're wrong. Like Ron, you will hold on to that forever, unless you are a likable personable person that people kind of like give you a pass. Uh-huh. And you know what's weird about this game to me too that I was watching at first? Like now I get it.

It gets like borderline like really personal and like they can get really mean. And I'm sitting here watching going it's a game. Just have fun. You know, and I get it that makes good TV. But like I do think sometimes it gets a little too like catty. Well, it's interesting for like someone like Ron versus Rob, right? Because they're both like quiet kind of keep to themselves personalities. But there's something about Ron that rubs everybody their own.

way that he's suspicious, but he's just saying, when I have a conviction, I say what I say, or else I kind of stay back. But because he was so adamant at that first roundtable, they never let that go. But then Rob doesn't really make any strong convictions. He's friendly with everybody, and no one's like, hmm, he doesn't blame anybody. Everybody likes him. When he be a good traitor? I know. I think the only person who kind of thought that was Ron when he told him while they're playing chess, I kind of think you would be a great traitor. I know. And Rob's like, I want to save you. By the way, Rob saying the cringe in my body when Rob goes, does anyone said my name yet? Does anyone think of it?

And I was like, no, you've been playing such a strong game up into this point. And that is like the one comment. And I know he, like, trusted Ron so he thought he could just say it to Ron. But watching as a viewer from home, I'm like, why would you say that? And even when Rob voted for Lisa, my jaw dropped. Yeah. Like I was literally like staring at the TV like, I didn't expect it. But honestly, it was a smart move.

It was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was. I mean, he kind of had to. I think Rob was playing a perfect game. And I think it was a smart move and his explanation made a lot of sense. The big question is, will Candace and Renna get it? Get it, right?

Will they be able to, you know, because how many, listen, and this happens every roundtable, right? You know, sometimes like a Ron situation, it's like, okay, they catch a couple, they catch some strays, they get some heat. And there's like a buildup to like, all right, he's finally going home. Right. And also, that's be real. Like this is like it's reality TV is always very high school. There's a lot of like, you know, social dynamics at play. And I think Ron wasn't, you know, more introverted.

You know, he, he made, he wasn't the popular person in the house. He made some, he made lesser meaningful relationships like with Rob. And maybe I think he was friends with Donna Kelsey. Donna. Yeah. But like, you know, it's like, hey, I made, I made two quality of friends from his experience, that's a win for me. I'm going to go home with two more friends

as opposed to like working on and trying to be the most popular person in the house. And I think again, like Rob's popular for whatever reason and Ron is this like has kept to himself and is a little like sassy and snarky. And like it was just easier to vote Ron home. But my, I guess my point of saying all this is that like it does happen a lot where someone's name

gets brought up. And then like somehow they get completely like the the accusation shift, right? Like, it's like, remember two weeks ago when we thought like Eric was the traitor and like we've all kind of dropped at? So I think Rob can, like, he's thinking, all right, I'm just going to say Renna. And then he can like, if they're strategic about it, and it'll be interesting to see how he goes about it and if he's able to pull it off to like be like, yeah, you know, I've, yeah, Colton made some accusations for Renna. But like, I'm not so sure anymore, you know? And to his point, maybe he can change how much he trust or not trust Colton and things like that.

But like, I thought Rob was really smart to say, like, this is, you know, we're not, this is not the last week of this game. Yeah. So let's think a few moves ahead. It'll be really interesting to see if they could pull it off. I do feel like, do you guys, anyone else think that like Renna's kind of cracking a little bit with the heat being on her? Or do you think that's clever editing? No. So I think she has a bold personality.

and I think if she was a faithful, she should react that way too. So, like, I don't know that she's, like, giving herself up. But fuck, I would hate to be a traitor where someone the heats on me. Because, like, how the fuck do you? You're like, no. Like, how do you deny it sincerely? And, like, what does the denial of actual faithful look like compared to a traitor?

It's like so much thinking kind of hurts my brain. A lot of spinning because, like, that's what I would think. Like, if I were in run a situation, how can I spin this Colton situation to where I don't look like a traitor? but I would be like he tried to, you've seen him blame me as a traitor, right? That he sat me aside and tried to be in cohoots with me. 100%. And then I'd be like, I'd try to be like, even if he's not a traitor, he's clearly somebody who would work with the traders and you can't be trusted. So like, let's vote him out.

Great. But that's what I'm saying, like, you have to turn the tables on Colton. 100%. But it's like, I just don't know if she's in that position where she can see outside of herself because like I would be nervous. And she has to do the killing in plain sight. Y'all. She agreed to that before all of this went down. Who do you think they kill?

I hope it's Colton. It's not going to be Colton. It's not going to be. I wish that she could get Colton out either during a roundtable or during this killing in plain sight because that's the only way that it doesn't put pinpoint her as the traitor. But aren't they going to then think it's her? Because he's been saying her name. No, I think they made the mistake about giving Renna the jewel that, you know, the weapon, so to speak. But it happened beforehand.

It should have been it should have been Candice who takes the jewel. and then to Sierra's point, they should like put Renna in a different room. Yeah. You know? And then when Candace kills Colton, the heat won't be on Renna. Rana been like I literally wasn't there.

It happened out of sequential order. Like she got the, they decided on her getting the jewel before all the heat was on her. Oh, to that extent. So like, in hindsight, yet she shouldn't,

but she was like, I would wear the brooch because I wear extravagant outfits, which like valid. I was like, so does Candice. Yeah, so is Candice. That's very fair. But now in hindsight.

Candace could have pulled that shit off. I know. I did love the moment, though, when they were presented with that. And it was like, well, Rob, you can't do it. And we're like, no fucking shit. Obviously. So if you're the traitors and you can't kill Colton, who do you think makes the most sense? Oh.

Oh, fuck. I feel like, unfortunately, it's going to be somebody like Johnny or somebody who, like, would be drawn to, like, touching the brooch on their own versus, like, Renna being like, oh, have you seen this? I got it. Harry Hamlin gave it to me. Let me put it on you. What if Durinda touches the brooch, though? I mean, that's kind of where Lisa's going to have to bring it up casually. Yeah. To someone. Durinda's not a bad. But isn't Durinda on to Lisa a little? Or does she think Lisa? Who's telling her that Colton's telling her.

So it's basically either she's kind of going along with it to keep alliances with Colton or she kind of believes it. I mean, I think, yeah, Derinda would be a no crew on. Maybe. is it Tara Lepensky? Tara Lipinski. Tara Lipinski. Like one of the girls, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I was like, it's going to have to be somebody that, like, would engage in a conversation about that. You know, Colton's made some bold fashion choices this season.

And that's why I'm hoping. And that's why I'm hoping. Bruch? Brooch? Brooch. He would. He would. And he's like kind of annoying to Lisa in that way where he would be like, hey, diva.

Look at that beautiful brooch you have on. Honestly. I mean, she probably wouldn't have to be that obvious. I think you're right. The most organic move would be Colton. Yeah. Yeah. Let him walk into it himself.

Exactly. Fly too close to the sun. He doesn't think a magical jewel can kill him, I don't think. They've done that on previous seasons? No. It always kind of switch it up. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. We're going to find out on Thursday. I'm addicted. It's great. I can't get over. It's so awesome. Well, Daria, we appreciate you taking the time and talk. talking of it with some traders with us as well as sharing your your story. Good luck on TNA.

Where can people follow you, follow you, watch all the great stuff that you're doing and support you in your career. Yeah. I'm on TNA on AMC every single Thursday. You guys can check me out there being a real bitch. And then all over social media at the Daria Ray Baranado. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. Thanks for chatting with us. Super fun. Thank you. It's the best. Come back soon. Yeah. Well, you know, we've been on our health kick journey, Nali and I for a while now. We've both been soda drinkers in the past, and that's why we are so grateful. Nally, introduce me to Alipop.

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And it's also available in soda aisles and in the chilled beverages at thousands of retailers nationwide, including Walmart and Target. I got to say, man, that wrestling world is something I'm very, very fascinated with. And if you're fascinated, too, do not forget we do have South Rollins and his wife, Becky lynch on Wednesday's going deeper. It's just honestly really fascinating what these guys do for living. And I'm really fascinated how they actually like lean into like accepting the villain role and things like that. I wish I wish like almost reality TV could do that in a way. Danielle Reyes actually made a comment. Yeah. And listen, like props to her. And I and I've talked about

this too. Like, I feel fortunate that when I first went on reality, I was in my early 30s. And I had, you know, a little lived experience and things like that. And working in corporate America kind of, honestly, can be very cutthroat and prepares you. And just like being a little older that I, and being the villain first, really prepared me for this world. Because for a lot of people who go into this world, who maybe get a little love and attention right away. And then they go back and, and and people turn on them as often as the case in these, it's very difficult for these people to handle that flip. And their mental health can spiral.

And it's just like, it can get really dark fast. But anyway, I thought it was interesting what Danielle had to say. Because like after Peacock released a statement, which was essentially like, please stop bullying our cast or human beings. Yeah. We do have Danielle's statement if you would like to hear it. Yeah, what did she say. So Danielle posted on Instagram after trade.

made their official comment, and she said, Let me share some inside information. The producers and the wellness team were very supportive of me during the airing of season three. They reached out several times to check in and make sure I was okay. I let them know there was no need to worry. This was not my first rodeo, circa 2002 Big Brother. For a little more inside info, when I sat down with Alan and gave my mafia pitch to become a traitor, I told him they're either going to love to hate me or hate to love me.

I understood the assignment as a traitor. To be clear, I did not plan my moves in advance. Everything I did in the game was organic. I knew I needed thick skin to play this game, and I also knew that murdering or turning on a fan favorite would not be taken kindly by viewers. I fully understood there was a possibility I would be hated. The point of this post is that it was not necessary for me. If the producers felt my mental health was ever in jeopardy, I am confident they would have addressed it directly and extended the same message themselves. So basically, she's like, nice that they issued that statement. I didn't need that shit, though. I'm built different.

which respect. I mean, she, but she, you know, props to her, she is built different. And I think, you know, again, she's, she's done this before and she's a gamer and clearly has thick skin, which some of us do, but not everyone does. Well, we're excited to talk to Monet coming up shortly. But what else do we have going on in the reality TV drama world? It's been a very crazy weekend, but in like the best way possible for anybody watching reality TV. Obviously, we have Secret Lives and Mormon Wives Season 4 announced March 12th. Finally. Coming, coming.

Then we also, we've seen all of the fallout that's already, it's confusing, obviously, to see whether this is Fallout for, like, season four or if this is fallout that they're filming for season. Five or six or whatever season run. That's always the confusion with this show. Yeah, we just finished season three. But I love it. Like, I'm like, I kind of, I personally enjoy the confusion of, like, I don't know when

I'm going to get it, but I kind of know what's happening. We do know that, like, season four is going to have the Demi and Lost Suits and Marciano. Pretty Pebblesgate. Whatever they're filming right now. Season 5 probably. No, wouldn't that be maybe end of season 4? I thought DeMei wasn't in season 4. So, and then also Marciano was spotted at whatever event they were filming recently, that also Latia from the Bachelors also at?

Well, it's insane. Is DeMei for sure not in season 4? Because there was speculation. I don't know for sure. I thought she was done. It's my understanding from people who are in very much the know that the Marciano's story and Demi's story actually was. will be carried over and resolved in Vanderpump Villa. But he's not even on that show anymore.

He got fired. I don't know. But apparently, if you are interested, when I have lost interest in that storyline, that more will be revealed in Van der Pum Villa. They have the tape. Don't worry. I will do the Lord's work. Yeah.

I will be watching. Honestly, because I want to see the storyline through. Listen, I've been told by people I trust and people who I think know what they're doing that that show gets better. So maybe we'll be talking about Vanderpumvilla. Listen, I need to close. I need to see this story through. And that's just my own.

I thought to me quit after this next season that's coming out because they've already been filming. Again, hard to say, hard to confirm. It's crazy that the Mormon wives basically somehow did invent time travel with the way that this show is filmed. I do always feel like I'm looking back into the past. and into the future at the same time when I'm watching. She isn't in the walking montage that they do.

So she isn't in the one for the trailer they release. Okay. Technically she also wasn't in the last season either. But then she still was. I don't know, you guys. Regardless, it's crazy. Apparently Latia from Bachelor is she confirmed filming? She has been spotted filming with her and Chase's ex-Kate.

Well, and then also Chase has, does Chase have a new girl or it's Dakota's new girl that's also part of filming? Dakota's new girl is part of filming too Emma yeah because then also We'll find out in two years I will be very interested to see how Latia does if she joins this cast because and I don't know I've never met Latia I don't know much about her but she

she struck me as your kind of typical bachelor at cast member which was you know unproblematic very demure very generally safe and very brand and conscious about her public persona. And from what I know about the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, as they are, to use that phrase, built different, they are, they are reality TV professionals and hyper good at being

incredibly raw, real and authentic in a way that like, I don't know, maybe Latia's got it. I don't, you know, clearly like I think that the, you know, Jeff Jenkins and Russell Jay, the producer, of this show and creators. They know what they're doing and they certainly know how to cast. So maybe Latia is, you know, maybe there's a different side to her that we got to see her on The Bachelor.

But the second I saw her say, come on now, I was like, oh, there's more. I need that. I was like, I liked whatever that was. We did see a little glimpse in the finale. Yeah, but that's when she thought she had the high road with Grant and she thought she was in a position. I don't know. It's just like,

what happens when you're really in the weeds and caught up in drama between Chase and Taylor Frankie Paul and maybe Whitney chimed. And, you know, like, that is a, I don't know, we'll see. It's, um. I mean, she's going from network to streaming. And that does seem to maybe give you a little bit more space to play around if you're not worried about like the ABC brand at large. Right. That is true because you also have to talk about the platform or the company that's

editing this show. Uh-huh. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. I mean... Latia could have been popping off all the time in that mansion. They just got it out. Maybe. You know? We don't know.

Got Miranda's friend, what, Shayla, Shana, that was supposedly slept with Dakota overstage coach. I'm telling you every... Let's go. Like, this is... It wasn't over stage coach. Everybody in that, like, infinity war circle of Mormon Wives, Utah is appearing in the show now. And it's like getting hard to track, but also is very entertaining. Honestly, I'm here for it.

Because, like, the, the, the, the, oh, geez, you know, Taylor's the Bachelorette. I mean, her star keeps blowing up and rising. Whitney's, you know, getting more and more opportunities. The rest is cast. They're becoming legit celebrities. And maybe, you know, again, you know, maybe, like, because they're recording so fast,

maybe they, you know, clearly, maybe are running out of some of those original storyline. So they're just leaning into that universe. I got to tell you what, though, March. March is packed. March is going to be jammed, packed. guys. And we have Taylor is the Bachelorette. Yep. We got Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, all happening at the

same time, which is that, that's going to break my brain. Yeah. I think they do this on purpose. They, literally, time travel. I mean, they do get to dictate when they release their show. So yeah, they are doing it on purpose. Well, you know, I'm pretty positive. They're releasing Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, right? Like, right intentionally the week before. Two weeks or a week before

Bachelor episode. We get all of the episodes and it's like, oh. Is that what they're doing? So it's like right before. So almost like that so yeah that's what we're gonna wrap up Taylor's story and then that way we can watch it'll it'll almost be like a Beverly Hills vander pump handoff right hand off I'm so excited that's what they'll do I can feel the excitement coursing through my veins yeah and then it's my birthday and my and my birthday we also have another season of love is blind we have some temptation island sandwiched in there at some point age of attraction will be coming out in 20206.

Can't say when exactly yet. Summerhouse. Ladies of London. Summerhouse, February 3rd. Everything. Okay, more reality TV headlines before we move on. Carl Rod Kim Venita.

Is it heating up? Running around London together? I think it's cute. I think they're doing a brand deal. They're hot together. No, because at BravoCon, they were, they were catching a vibe. Carlos asked about her and he said that he finds her beautiful

and so entertaining to talk to. I think this is a great, a great pairing. I do too. Well, Meredith Marks met Charlie XX at Sundance, another headline. And she said on Twitter, they were fans of each other. She said on Twitter, I wish that we could have been bumping that Meredith Marks caviar. I mean, if I met Charlie SCX or honestly any like celebrity I'm a fan of, I do like Charlie's music. Did you see that reaction that Charlie had?

It was like a. Yes. Like for Meredith? Like that's, you know, for all the, for all the controversy that Meredith has been wrapped up in this season. To know you have Charlie on your side. And Charlie said, I'm so glad you're DJing now. And honestly, Feather, like, that's a flex. It is.

Mm-hmm. And then Ramona Singer thinking she vented the phrase, sorry not sorry in 2026. That clip was amazing. Awesome. No notes. Last thing that I think we definitely need to talk about. So Ultimate Road Trip is still filming. The amount of like OGs that are popping over this is insane.

Like, Faye was on Beverly Hill. Yes, the morally corrupt Faye. Kemsokia, Nini Links, Marloughampton, Shiree, like everybody. Everyone's here. Did they start off in Beverly Hills, go to Newport, and then now they're in... So I believe they're currently in Miami. Okay. They would be Atlanta as well?

I usually don't let myself spoil housewife things, but I'm like really tapped into this. So they started in Newport, and then they ended up in Beverly Hills, and now we know they're in Miami. So I don't know if they've gone anywhere in between, but like even Mary Cosby, I know she's active, was at one of the events. I saw that it was like Mary Cosby was there, but Nini was there. They ask some Atlanta housewives.

The land flies in on a zip line, apparently, at the white party. Like, with angel wings. I'm like, there's just a lot going on in a lot of different people. That is iconic. Elaine is back. Eileen Davidson is back. It's iconic that they did a 20... Sorry, I love Eileen Davidson.

I grew up on Young and the Restless. Vicki Goempsen is in a black wig. But they did the 20th anniversary of Housewives with Kyle having her white party in the backyard. Like, they knew what they were doing and they're doing it properly. They're bringing, like, all these people back to, like, commemorate. like what House Spice is. It's beautiful. I'm so excited.

And didn't you say they had like a disco-themed party? Like the epic fight that happened in Orange County at the Mexican restaurant over like Bungo? Oh my God. Did you see Cynthia Bailey bringing back 50 cents? I did. Oh my God. Oh my God. She's just yeah.

Fucking epic. I cannot wait for this series to release. When's it come out? Do we know? We don't know. But usually I mean, I would think, I mean, they're actively filming it. So I would assume it's probably later this year, if not mid. I'm excited.

All right. Monet is up next and we are excited to see what Monet thinks about this season of Traders. Obviously, Monet was in the castle not too long ago and had an unceremonious early exit. But Monet is here to let us know about this season. Monet, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. We're super excited to have you. First of all, we just want to say, what the fuck?

Why were you kicked out so early? Between, you had Bob the Drag King last year, you this year. Who? Ever heard of her, Bob? But yeah, I mean, like, you got the early exit, which we were very sad to see. So we are excited to have you on the show and talk little traitors.

Yeah, you know, I think the problem was that I trusted, can I curse on here? Yes, fuck shit, balls, yeah. Oh, I trusted a fucking housewife, and I would never do it again. When Alan deigns it necessary for me to rejoin his castle to play this game, again, it's going to happen. I hired some Etsy witches to cast.

the spouse I will never trust a housewife. I will hunt them all down. And I don't care who it is. I don't care of Mary. Jesus' mother is a housewife in the castle. She's going down. All except Fajer.

Fajer seems like a, she was a loyal housewife. The only loyal one we've ever seen. Okay. All right. Do you feel like that the housewives are putting a target on their back this season? Yeah, I think so.

I think every season they're like, because it's like they have no loyalty even to each other. Like how they killed Caroline and Lisa Rinna with those damn lips. Looked Caroline in her face and said, Caroline's, I guess I'll see your brother called. No, you won't. Cold blooded.

Like, it is cold-blooded, but also such great TV. And, like, I think my problem was, like, I just really trusted Candace. I really trusted Candice. Like, they had five people that I was like, I know these people that are fatefuls. It was Colton, Natalie, Rob Cesterino, Portia, and Candace. I was like, I know. I was like, you cannot tell me if you're not faithfuls. I just thought they were.

And I was right about all of them except for Candice. So I confided in her. And she used that same knowledge to get me out of the game. Which, you know, by the court of public opinion, I was playing a pretty good game. I was flying under the radar, but still a presence and still talking. But I made the fatal mistake of trusting the wrong bitch. But enough about my ex-wife. Other than trusting the wrong person, is there anything you would have done differently in the time that you were there?

that if you did get a chance to come back to the castle, you would maybe approach it differently. I think one thing I would do is maybe say someone's name to more than one person. Like, because I think that was a good point. Lisa brought up in the church. She has Canada. Did anyone else hear it? Candice, like, I don't think so.

Because then you can't link things back to people. So, yeah, I think maybe saying it, saying to more than one person, other than that, I was really happy with the game. I was playing the fashions I was serving. And when they were eulogizing me, how my lovely faithfuls and traitors were all talking about how fabulous my fashion were, and Lisa Rina had the gall, the gumshould be audacity to say one of the best dress. I can't wait to see that bitch in the reunion so we can see who's really the best dress.

When Candace got caught in the lie, what? Michael Rappaport put the coffin in a housewife's grave. Yes, yes. Yes. I watched that back and I was kicking myself. I was like, Mora, because poor. Candace did say that in the car. Mora heard it.

And then when they're at the table and Porsche is asking, her, Mora was like, no, girl, I don't know what she's talking about. And then, so we all thought, you know, we all thought, oh, that was weird. But if Mora would have been forthcoming and instead of covering for Candace for, I don't know what reason, they weren't even that close. If she had not covered for Candace, I think that would have been a big red flag for Candice. And honestly, maybe we would have gone for Candace that night because it would have been such a big lie. Like, why lie about that?

It would have been really strange. And that could have changed the entire trajectory of the game. But that's the thing about traders, you can't say what if, and I wish I did. Because honestly, if that had happened, then it would have been a whole maybe other mess of problem. So it's a game, it's really, it's a game that you can't really say, I wish I would have, oh, if this had happened, this would have happened because you really don't know. Do you think Mora really was just like, I don't know, I don't remember shit? Or do you think that was a strategic play on her part to just be like, you know what, I see no evil, hear no evil. don't, you know, like, I had repeating shit.

You know, you're being so sweet attributing any strategy gameplay to Moran Higgins. Mara did not know what the fuck that was going on the entire time. More had not seen, this is a fact. Mora had not watched a single episode of this show when she got to the game. More than I know what was going on. She was like, she was like, oh, we have to banish people. I was like, Mora, that is a premise of the game, girl. She had no idea what's going on.

So I don't think she knows any strategy. more was just being more. Mara wanted to wear pretty clothes, which she did. And that was her only goal. I'm curious, as far as we were talking about this earlier, like obviously Colton's playing a very aggressive game in the castle and he seems to just be like making accusations. I almost kind of wish like the faithfuls would come together and be like,

because honestly I don't feel like Colton's playing like a traitor's game. He's playing kind of an aggressive disruptive faithful. but I think he's almost like to the rest of the faithfuls. Like if I'm a faithful, I'm like, yo, I don't think you're a traitor, but what you are is a great distraction for the traders. And if I'm a traitor,

I'm keeping you around. And so like I want to see him getting voted. If I'm a faithful, I would want to see Colton get voted off because I think he's a distraction to actually hunting down the real traitors. I think that in my humble opinion, I think that Colson is playing a good game.

Yes, he's playing aggressively, but I think that Colton is playing a good game. I think that Colton is, I think his strategy to go up to Lisa Rinne and be like, I know you're a traitor. I think that was bold. I think it was a good choice. I think that what Colton could have done differently was at the roundtable, use that information against Run in a different way, or Lisa used that information against Colton to try to get him out.

But I think aggressive game playing the castle can be tricky. But I think Colton's doing. a good job. I really do. Okay. Are there any people that we haven't seen get a ton of airtime that you feel we're kind of are sleeping under the radar and might surprise us going forward? Ooh, I think Natalie, I think in her seasons of, her seasons of Survivor, Natalie's one of my favorite Survivor players because she plays, she's just so good at the game. She's fucking strong as hell. She's like CrossFit like at 5 o'clock in the morning every day. Girl, better than me. And she's just, she's just so good at the game. And she's just so good at the game.

She is like a dope, so she's great at the missions, but she's also like a fateful, faithful. Like I think everyone in the castle know she's a fateful, but the traitors aren't getting rid of her, and which is good, right? It's good that the fatefuls know you are fateful and the traders are scared to get rid of you because you're flying just under the radar enough, but she's still vocal, she's still bringing things up at the round table. She's still contributing. So I think, yeah, I think Natalie's playing a really good game. Okay.

And I can't wait to see what she does for the rest of the season. I think Mary's got some questions for you. I do. I do have some drag race related questions. First question, who of the Traders' cast do you think would be the best and worst guest judges on drag race? Best. I, because honestly, I love this bitch so much. And I think she was the only one giving me competition for the drags.

I think Portia Williams. I think Portia Williams would be an amazing guest judge on drag race. But she knows a drag, honey. I think worst would be I would say Lisa Rina No, I'm kidding I think Lisa actually did judge of a dragger

She's so silly and she's so funny I would say maybe Stephen Coletti I think Stephen Colletti will walk onto the set of dragnery And he would be like What the fuck is going on Although Stephen was very complimentary by drag

I was like Stephen you didn't know me Stephen I'm like Steve ain't you engaged Watch out now Awesome. And then I know you've answered before which drag queens you think should go on traitors, but I am curious which drag queen do you think would be the worst faithful and the worst traitor. A dragon who will be the worst faithful. Oh, my God. A dragon who will be the worst faithful will be Mistress Isabel Brooks. She's a bully. She would bully the entire cast. They would probably eliminate her. Also, Mistress just kind of looks evil. Like she doesn't look like a place. blessed person. Yeah, no.

Mr. just kind of has like a mean grill, so I think she'll be an awful fateful. And he's a worst traitor? Yeah. Who couldn't handle it? Oh, worst traitor would be

Perpiment. Even though she was a pretty bad fateful, I mean, she'd be even worse traitor. Imagine that. Yeah. Because Perpment is truly like a good nature and lovely person. Kind-hearted. And her having to be in that turn.

One time we played Secret Hitler, if you guys know that board game. And she cannot bring it to herself to play the game. I was like, Perraffman, it is a game. I promise no one here is really a fascist. They all live in us in Plainview, Texas. None of us are fashion. It's okay.

And she's like, girl, now I can't. And she just opted out of the game because she's like, I just can't do this. I was like, okay, girl, okay. Too sweet, too kind of heart to be a traitor. Too kind of a heart. Yeah, too kind of heart. She's such a good person. Monet, any final thoughts on this season of the traders

before we let you go. Final thoughts. This is for any future trader players, hunt the housewives. They are the most deleterious. Of course, ooh, they're trying to get my Wi-Fi connection. You saw that?

Yeah. Hunt the housewives. They're the most deleterious people in the world. They should never be last long at this game because they will cut you, slip your throat, stabbing the back, and get you eliminated.

All right. Well, Monet, we really appreciate you taking the time. Where can people follow you? support you and everything that you're doing. You can follow me on all social media, Monet Exchange, M-O-N-E-T, letter X-Word change, and come see me on my stand-up comedy tour, High Hills Bad Knees all this spring and all summer.

Hell yeah. All right, Monat, we appreciate you. Best of luck going forward and maybe we'll see you back in the castle. Who knows? Thank you all so much. Thanks so much. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

Bye. I love her. All right, Beverly Hills. Do we have a rapid recap? We do have a rapid recap. All right. So if you miss the most recent episode of The Real Housewives Beverly Hills, here is your rapid recap. Rachel Zoe's shopping strategy. Money isn't real. Bo's getting her eggs retrieved. She also does not buy Amanda's money-making skills. Der Reit writing a book, honey. Kyle tells Sutton about Jennifer Tilly's comments about her and Garcel.

She doesn't react very well to that. And OMG, Rachel Zoe is throwing a party with a psychic. Kyle hopes this one doesn't have an electronic cigarette and say Maricio isn't going to emotionally fulfill her. But we'll see. So off the back, Amanda brings up that Doret is using a ghostwriter for her book, which is crazy to Amanda because she just sat down and wrote hers all by herself. Sutton then confronted Jennifer Tilly about the comments about Garcel, and they both really just agree that they should be better friends for each other. And it was really wholesome. And then Amanda and Doree have a very tense conversation, and Amanda leaves the party. I enjoy Beverly Hills. I know people say they're not buying into it, but I feel like this whole season, I've enjoyed it.

I enjoy Rachel Zoe. I don't get why fans are not embracing Amanda. I think the women aren't necessarily embracing Amanda. She's a one-upper. She's a one-upper. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But, you know, like nothing she says is wrong. She's self-made.

She's incredibly independently successful. The tragedy in which she talked about was heartbreaking. She's clearly resilient. And like I said, a lot of people have a hard time, sometimes like moving forward. And I don't know how she did it, but she clearly did in a way that she's ultra successful, got herself on one of the most iconic housewives franchises. Like, what's not to like? I mean, she does have the tendency to one up, even though, even if it's not necessarily coming from a negative or vindictive place, I think she just does that to feel relatable to other people. And I think that robs a lot of the women the wrong way because there's this new girl and she's coming in

here kind of pretty bold pretty brash for a new housewife which I think is great as she needs to as she needs to but I think their reaction to that is pretty unified which is hard for her because she can't make a friend an actual friend now because everyone has this sort of preconceived notion of like where they used to be at I think in a housewife's journey is how I read it a little bit which might not be Correct. I think I'm empathetic to Amanda's story and I think it's hard coming into a cast of an already established friendships and women who know each other and being the new person. But I also think that there's a way to come in and like listen to what people are going through and without, I don't know, trying to act as if you are better than people or you have all of the answers. And I think that's something that's rubbing the women the wrong way, whether it's a coffee order or, you know, a book and I wrote mine myself. It's like there's a certain comments that she makes where it just feels like you didn't need to say that, but yet you don't hear why that would rub someone the wrong way. Yeah. I don't think she, listen, I think I don't take it as her trying to one up. She may, it obviously comes across that way. I think she's trying to be

relatable to the other women. I don't, I don't even think it's that. You know what I think it is? I think, listen, I think for her to be able to accomplish what she's accomplished, she's obviously, she seems like a very type A person. I think some things, a lot of things, like just, make sense to her, right? In her mind, it's like, why would you do something any other way? Because this works. And I think when she sees people say or do something

that in her mind just like makes no sense, like she just, she will speak up and she will speak on it. And I think sometimes that comes across is like, you know, obviously the drama that Doret tried to bring up, right? Until like Amanda, you know, shut it down. know, she was like giving feedback that Doreet didn't really want, right? She was giving criticism and critique about like Doreet's divorce. And honestly, probably objective feedback, you know, but like Doret just wasn't having it. But I don't think Amanda did it to like be it to know it all.

I think she was like she heard something. It was like, that doesn't make sense to me. And then she like was honest about what made sense to her. You know, like I just think she, things in her mind. And she's clearly very smart. And she's clearly very smart. And, she does make good decisions. Like, I don't think Amanda would hire her husband to be her manager. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the one moment that Amanda really lost me was the Avi thing from a couple

weeks ago. That's her just being messy. That's, she's being messy. That was a producer being like, hey, ask something about this. Bring up Sutton and Avi. Yeah, but I think it's just like, I think that comment specifically is what put her in this position with the girls because I think beforehand they were kind of like, I don't know about this new girl.

she's kind of annoying to us, whatever. And then she said the thing about Avi and they were like, oh, well, we're obviously not going there. So what the fuck? Why are you trying to bring that up on camera? And I think that kind of put a negative taste in their mouth towards her as a collective unit, which I think sucks for her because it kind of puts her in a bad position to kind of regain genuine relationships with the group because now they're closed off to it, whether or not that's justified or not.

I don't think these women were ever interested in being close with Amanda. and they all kind of approach it as like who's this new girl and like maybe Amanda didn't do herself any favors. But like most people can't be Bose who is this like very polished and very put together and very secure in herself. And this like Bose has the like almost like the, you know, this former Netflix executive where people know the name of like, you know, of Netflix. You're like, oh, you're kind of impressed by the title that Bose has. has had in the past where Amanda being self-made, it's almost like being like, yeah, I have a podcast. And it's like, oh, cool. And that can mean a million different things. You know, Amanda's come in as like, hey, I own my own business. Like, you know, half of the bachelor contests and show up and

be like, I'm a financial advisor or I'm in real estate. And it's like because they got the real estate license where like they have this kind of very vague title that most people, it's kind of bullshit. But Amanda's one of those people who's actually done something with it and made this incredible business. And I think like maybe that's where that kind of one up comes from where like, again, Bose doesn't need to do that. She's like, I'm a former Netflix executive. What's up? And most people are like, oh my God, like, how do you do that? Right. So I think that she has that confidence where like maybe, maybe Amanda has a little bit of insecurity there. But like I'm more impressed with what she's done rather than picking apart the fact that she's proud of what she's done. I think of

everyone that has beef with Amanda, Bose's beef with Amanda is my favorite because her whole thing is just like, where's the actual money? I thought you were going to have actual fiscal advice for me, but your advice is just vibes, which I think is really funny. I mean, yeah, because Bose can speak on that because Bose, like, is also incredibly successful in the space of business where, like, you know, like Sutton or Kyle or Derreet, like, what are they going to say? I was going to say, I kind of think, too, where I'm like, I think the women are also. just not impressed with it because I'm like every season that one of these women who have all been, besides Kyle, uh, like introduced at a different point in these friendship groups have all had to prove themselves. It's like you had Erica coming in married to a lawyer, but is a pop star and Bethany Frankl's shitting on her from like the first episode. It's like Doret came in with the bathing suit lines and, uh, and PK's career and whatnot in people were like, your accent is fake and panty gate with Erica. So I'm just like, I feel like this isn't anything that's not normal for like a

woman coming in and joining this group. But like at the same time, I just feel like building actual relationships versus trying to flex on like what you've accomplished and what you've done goes a lot further like, like, A, as a viewer, but also with the cast that it being like, well, I'm successful. Well, I'll take a 30 minute business call. Like, it's just like, we get it. You work. But what else is interesting about you? What was, um, what was that woman's name from like early season? Beverly, Dana. Deany willpes. Yeah. With the sunglasses? $75,000 sunglasses. $75,000 sunglasses. I think she's trying to fit in. I think you guys nailed it. Maybe it is a little bit of them icing her out, but also she's not helping herself with some of the things she's saying. People hated Doreet when she came in.

She was up against Lisa Renna, Erica, so many people. I mean, did Amanda come in as a friend of anybody? Or was she just kind of like, Amanda? I feel like kind of just like Amanda here. She bought Kyle's house. But like that doesn't mean she was friends with Kyle, right? So I think it's like. It's like loosely Kyle's. She kind of, I think that's also where she was kind of, Brittany came in. No, Brittany was a friend of Heather. So that's what I'm saying. Amanda kind of just got placed there like, hey. And that's kind of who she is on the show where she's kind of just like, hey. Right. And to your point, like with Jennifer Tilly, for example. Or it's like, obviously if you know Jennifer Tilly, you know Jennifer Tilly, but like nobody's seen her dynamics like with a friend.

So it's like you get to see this like, oh, actress Jennifer Tilly, but what she's like with Sutton. And there's something like endearing about it. Or like when we have the housewives crosovers where it's like Sutton going to lunch with Heather Dubrow and whomever else that it's like, oh, like how these people interact with each other outside or like and a camera just happens to be on. them where it's like right now we're giving like it's unnatural because like who who who do we get to see real conversations with and like you criticizing durit's marriage not knowing durit for a minute like yeah and i think your comments yourself you being friends with someone in the group demands respect for you as well so i think she didn't have that set up yeah so that might have been the mess up of the introduction of amanda yeah i'm rooting for her and we'll see i'm a fan

i'm a fan should we uh get to a little valley person style Yeah, we should. I love with the show. I love it. I started Shaw's of Sunset last night from season one. I think Gigi, MJ, and Reza, that's a trio made in the stars. As MJ said, let's go. Exactly. All right. So if you missed the most recent episode of the Valley Persian style, here's what happened. So we pick back up after the reveal that Dennis fuck oneness is friend, but their family and they work together. So it's fine. Reza doesn't think Sky needs another house and she should just stay in the fucking valley. Tommy is not coming with MJ to Palm Springs because he doesn't want to see Reza.

Sky is still pretending to be madical and as if we're smoking weed at her house, but Gigi apologizes anyways. Sky also says that the house in Palm Springs smells immediately after she walks in. Also, there's a medium there, and it's very sweet. And they all learned, like, you don't think it was sweet? No, I'm just thinking the constant themes of having, like, mediums and psychics at these parties. I know. I'm down.

Salt Lake City did it for. Salt Lake City. We should have a party with a medium. He will never emotionally fulfill you. Anyway, so later, Dennis crashes Adam's birthday dinner and everyone is like, what? Dennis, what are you doing here? Even in the entire episode, everyone wanted Gigi and RJ to fuck. And now Reza and MJ hate Dennis and are there to just read them to fill, which Gonesa loves, but she also does still want to have a relationship with Dennis. Anyway, that was the episode.

That, the fight or the conversation, the dinner, the birthday party, whatever you want to call it, was. reality TV goal to me. Perfect. Like it was just one thing after another and like, MJ, when she got, let's go. And I was like, oh my God, they're about to like go down. It was so good. She was giving me like emotional whiplash. Like I was just like, wait, did you invite him here? He just drove two hours to get here.

And now you're like, tell them your side and then I'll tell them mine. But you go first because I don't want you to use what I said. It's a guess or no. I was like, yeah. And I was like, oh my God. And then immediately later, she's like, it's so nice having Dennis here. She's so iconic when she walks out every two seconds and she's like, I need a smoke. I need to punch something.

I need to feel pain. Literally. All I can think about is our resident interview and how much he hates Sky. Yeah. And when he shows up at Sky's house and he's like, girl, how you do? I'm like, he is a good actor.

If I didn't know any better, he sounds like he really enjoys her company. Yeah. He hates her. Yeah. Well, he really does not want her to move to Bel Air. And she really, for some reason, wants to move to her.

That's a nice house. Why does she want to leave so bad? She wants to be Bel Air. She does not want to be in the Valley. But Girlie Pop, you signed a contract to be on the Valley, Persian style. There's like the valley part of Bel Air, like the top of it. The top of Bel Air. The air in Bel Air is the valley.

I mean, you overlook the Valley from Bel Air. Yeah. And the valley sometimes looks over Bel Air. No? I'm confused. I don't think that's how it works. Nick, I have a question for you. Is it more geography?

No, it's about Tommy and MJ and Reza in that whole dynamic. What do you think as a husband and a man with a wife? How do you? Okay. That is the definition of a husband. Yeah. As a husband. It's a definition.

I could have a husband. Okay, got it. Exactly. Thank you. Yeah. As a husband and a man with a wife, how do you feel about Tommy refusing to like go to things with MJ even though she wants him there because of. Yeah. Tommy's a bitch.

I agree. Yeah. I mean, listen, Tommy is, Tommy is standing up. for his own ego. He's not standing up for MJ. Yeah. At the end of the day, like, you know, listen, you can be frustrated. Like, sometimes, you know, your person or whatever might invest in relationships that you don't think serves them. Fine.

You know. But Tommy has made MJ's fight about his own fragile ego and his desire to, like, quote unquote, as he claims, stand up for MJ. And then to go and vandalize Reza's, like, property. like in such an aggressive way. I mean, listen, we had the pleasure of meeting Reza. And maybe I'm, I'm sure he's capable of lot. But he doesn't seem like much of a fighter, you know, and he doesn't seem to be all that physically aggressive as a person.

So for Tommy to come over and be like, he's lucky. I just broke his plant and not his face. It's like, what do you, like for who are you doing that for? I doubt very much MJ asked him to do that. And then, again, like, he doesn't, show up again that's not for mj you're making your wife life's more more difficult right he's he's putting her in difficult situations like he can be high enclosed doors not love the fact that like mj has decided to give people a second chance that he doesn't think they deserve but like

these are his these are mj's relationships that she's trying to preserve and like at the end of the day you just got to support your partner and make life easier for them all tommy's doing is making life more difficult for MJ while protecting his fragile ego. There you go. Thank you. Well, it's also like, MJ has known Reza since she was in high school.

Like, they've been, like, their family at this point. They've been through so much. They, you know, Reza, when he was on the show, was talking about how they really organically off camera just put their relationship back together. And, you know, I just started shots. So obviously, there's a lot. I don't know.

But it's just like, Tommy, what the fuck? Like, you think. Whose voices? supposed to be. Hey, it's called... It's called me. Sorry, it's called Cadence, you guys. I was just, I thought you're impersonating someone. No, that was just all me.

That was just how I felt emotionally about Tommy in that moment. I did feel bad when MJ was like, all I just asked is you can please talk to Reza. And then Tommy was like, I'm going to go watch TV. Yeah. Yeah. He's a selfish partner. Yeah, and it's, he is using MJ's drama

and what's happened in the past is a way to scapegoat himself. of things he doesn't want to be a part of. And hey, hey, listen, I wouldn't want to be, I wouldn't want to show up to a party of someone's house. I decided to go and vandalize. I'm sure Tommy feels really awkward about his outburst. But instead of just like owning that, he's... That's on you. Yeah. Also, can we quickly talk about Amir and Natasha, how beautiful that was? Like, just their relationship in general and like, the medium saying, like, I'm hearing, like, your wife approving of this. And then like their daughter crying. I was like, oh, my God.

You know, as much as I despise the last season of Kristen Doty's The Valley, as the way I described it one time, even though I love you, Kristen Doty, you're the best part of that show. As much as I have strong negative association with that show, this valley feels like a warm hug and just like you're hanging out with friends. And it really feels like what the Valley is supposed to be, which is kind of this post-young show where you're kind of figuring out your life. and now you have, but you still have, like, relationships to figure out. But you're all in it together, but you're all fucking crazy still. Mm-hmm. But you're going to do it in adult terms. This does seem like more actual friends than, like, former cast members.

Yeah. You know what I mean? It seems like a genuine friend group. And like, and again, you put Gigi, MJ, and Reza in front of a camera. I'm locked and loaded. I'm so happy. I'm going to go home and rewatch that final scene right now. Should we start a new spinoff of the valley?

You've just been trying to get on the valley. Valley in any way, shape, or form of the Valley podcast style? The Valley Rent style. The Valley Renters edition. The Valley Rental Renders edition. I would watch that. Well, I will do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Monet Exchange, and Daria Baranado.

Be sure to check out our Going Deeper episode tomorrow with Seth Rollins and his wife, Becky Lynch, from WWE fame. It's a very fascinating episode. You're certainly going to enjoy it, whether you will. watch wrestling or not. If you love a good conversation about a beautiful couple, finding love at work, and working together through adversity, you will love this episode. Other than that, we'll see you tomorrow.