The WAN Show - AI Ruined The Deal And Gave Away His Address - WAN Show October 2, 2026

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Me too. I don't know if I could do this today. This might be a more conversational, relaxed way in show. We'll see how it goes. Sony Japan has implemented a new policy requiring 60 hours of gameplay in order to even enter their PS5 Pro raffle.

We're going to be talking about this. I actually am not sure if I feel quite the same. same way. Oh, interesting. Hmm. Interesting. I had just randomly read this title before the show, so I'm interested what some thoughts are. In other news,

Meta's Muse, their AI agent, apparently sucks at haggling. This is our headline story, but a man claims that after giving Muse access to his Facebook marketplace account, he got

lowballed, and it gave out his home address, which is kind of what it was supposed to do. Sounds like a Facebook marketplace transaction. Sure does. What else we got this week? Armada OS is turning Android handhelds into a little little bity steam decks. And then I'm going to give you a triple whammy here.

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They must have spent a ton of money. I could feel that one coming in my bones. Yeah. I thought you were saying, your butt and I was like, that's weird. But that didn't happen. That's good. So now we're all on the same page. What's going on? Tech YouTuber Matt Rob.

Let Meta's Muse AI agent manage a Facebook marketplace listing. In theory, this is exactly the sort of thing that Muse is supposed to come in and take off of your plate because I don't know about you, but my threshold for how much something

has to be worth in order for me to bother selling it on Facebook marketplace has gradually gone up alongside the price of a fast food meal. Like, I'm at the point now where if something is worth less than like $20, it has to be quite bulky and inconvenient to dispose of before I'm like, you know, oh, okay, I should probably, I should probably sell it. So after giving Muse access to his Facebook Marketplace, Muse negotiates, Muse negotiated with a buyer, accepted an offer below his asking price, and then arranged a pickup, which, okay, to your point, that sounds about like how... It sounds like picture perfect how a Facebook marketplace transaction tends to go.

Except, here's a small problem. Mews then sent the buyer Rob's home address and then later told the buyer that he was available, even though Robb had not approved the. meet up and was not home. This sounds like canonically accurate AI assistant to me. Consequently, the buyer showed up at his apartment. Um, kind of feel bad for this guy. Yeah, that sucks. Unless he's super low-balled our boy, Matt.

Um. No. And no. Really? I don't think that counts. I actually, I want to stand ground on that one. Really? The AI bought, which you asked to do this, accepted that price.

I don't care if he low-balled them. You know what? You know what? Agreed. If you accepted the price. Well, someone did. Yeah. No, no, it's, you agreed that this thing would act on your behalf.

You accepted that price. I, this line has to be held. And I know it's really inconvenient sometimes, like potentially right now. But when we have airlines running LLMs, just raw dogging their customer service, if somebody gets a free ticket, that person got that free ticket. I don't care. I don't think it's going to work out that way, but I like your principal. In Canada.

I don't think everyone has. Maybe in Canada. I don't think everywhere. In Canada has. I think I've seen stories where they just backed off of it and were not held accountable for it. Yeah, that sucks, man. Anyway, in general, I don't love Facebook Marketplace lowballers, but I also agree with Luke.

And I, yeah, I agree. Although I will go out of my way. If someone posts something at a dollar, I'll just offer them a dollar. I remember you telling me about something you and your brother coordinated on. The vault? The vault. Whoa, the Cherbek is really, sorry. So I think it was me.

I think I sent you the vault, right? I think so. Somebody posted a concrete storage vault on Facebook Marketplace for $1. It was actually like $8,000 or something like that. It was the whole thing. Yeah. It was, you were buying a room. Yeah, it was custom.

The walls and the roof and the floor. Yeah. And like a safe style door and stuff. And so to punish this guy, Luke and especially his brother made their mission to find Facebook profiles or create them or something and offer him a dollar like every day. Well, first we'd ask a lot of questions. You got to start with a lot of questions.

And then when they start getting frustrated, that's when you hit them with the dollar. And then when they get really pissed at you, you should go, well, why don't you actually posted it like what you kind of want for it? And then they get mad at you and then you just stop responding. And then you hit him with the new account. I'm going to start asking some questions again. You know what's funny is I actually was over at Labs this morning, putting the finishing touches on my local Hermes. Yeah, so I've got Hermes set up on my, oh, I was about to show you talking to it through Discord, but it's in the trunk of my car right now.

So, okay. Yeah, that won't be working. But that is a way that you can interact with it. That is a perfect example of the kind of thing that you could have Hermes take care of for you. Oh, dude. Is harassing people who post something for a dollar on Facebook market. The fact that Facebook doesn't have that as one of the things that you can report a listing for, is crazy.

That to me indicates that they don't care. That they don't want, that there's some reason that they do not want to solve this. Can you, can you do, is there seller, I don't do enough Facebook marketplace? Is there selling reputation? Yeah, there is a little bit, but. Because like I would, if I was this guy,

I would want to flag it as like, this dude using AI assistant had me show up and he wasn't even freaking there. Like I would want to flag that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. But I don't think until you've like completed a, transaction or it's like detected that you might have completed one you even really get an

opportunity to rate somebody so here's all of the things that you can um that you can report someone for oh crap i accidentally reported something i just wanted to see the options okay so you can you can report someone for scam selling or promoting restricted items an inaccurate listing nudity or sexual activity violence hate or exploitation bullying and harassment and uh self self-harm or eating disorders it would be an inaccurate listing well it's Specifically, though. Specifically, I want one for the, they're not listing a price. I agree.

Like, I think that should be. But if they list a price of $1, and I offer $1, and they say, no, it's actually $8,500. That's an inaccurate listing. I guess that's what it falls under. It's just clearly nothing is being done with that. No. Yeah. It's still a huge problem.

There's also the, oh, it's $123,000, $125,000. $123,456. It's just the same thing. Yeah, it's so obnoxious. It's very annoying. Anyway, back to what we're supposed to be talking about. Rob said that he selected Mewses always allow permission when setting it up. He believed that meant Mews was always allowed to handle messages,

but would still ask before accepting offers. According to his account, it instead allowed Mews to send messages using a template that included the pickup address. Shortly before this incident, this is kind of separate, Amazon independently blocked MUSE, citing unauthorized access and concerns about privacy and security as well as credential handling. Our notes here say it looks like there might have been something to that. Meta says that Mews' architecture prevents the agent itself from seeing passwords and payment information. But it's clear that in spite of the fact that all of these companies are heavily involved in the current AI space race, none of them have really given any thought to how this is all going to work together. Yeah.

Like, it feels like this pitch. And nobody wants to accept any interfacing from other people's tools. My AI agent is supposed to be able to, like, do all this stuff for me. And you've got, in many cases, the same companies that are pitching me on this amazing future where my AI agent does all my stuff for me going, saying, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, well, well, we, blah, well, we, we, We don't want, you know, agents interacting with our services. Oh, unless there are agents. It's like, bro, I don't want six agents.

Like, that's the whole idea. What is? Is that it's like a simple Discord message like, hey, can you buy some tickets for me or whatever? Like, that's the pitch. Every time we watch a stupid keynote, that's the pitch. It's like, oh, yeah, I heard these guys are coming in town. Get me some good tickets. for me and the wifie, make sure she's available that day.

If it doesn't work like that, it's not useful because it's less work for me to just go do it myself. Yeah, honestly. A lot of the, a lot of things like, man, checking out on Amazon or a Shopify store where you can use the like shop one click buy thing or whatever else. Like there's a lot of stuff that's really fast. I wanted to, I was buying a DVD, I think yesterday. and it was through a Shopify store and it was just like, bink, bink, I guess I have purchased this thing now.

Wow, super fast. And I'm not trying to puff up Shopify. That's like most modern shopping experiences these days. It's super, super quick. So if it's not able to beat that speed, what's the point? Yeah, what are we even doing here? And like the prompt that you just mentioned, it gave it two different kind of tasks and stuff.

It's like, okay, cool. So now it has to go do other things. So it might actually beat that speed. but it would have to succeed in order for that to be true. So I mean, I guess this is a great opportunity to transition into talking about the Hermes setup process. Sure. So for those not familiar, Hermes is super cool.

It's basically like you could think of it kind of like a manager for your different LLMs, your different models that you're running, and then all the different kinds of like skills and accesses that you ultimately want them to be able to have. So, you know, for instance, if you wanted something that was able to, you know, look through your incoming emails and then have an LLM, summarize them, and send you all of your most recent emails in a morning digest, Hermes would be kind of your hub where you would configure all of those permissions and all of that access.

It's always funny talking to people who are. are like deep into it because they'll say oh it's like super easy to set up and it's really intuitive and it was so funny um i was over at lab setting this up with uh stephen and lucas this morning and these are guys that have all this set up like on their own and also you know are tinkering around with it for work because um as we as we figure out sort of what our content style is going to be around like local AI which is what I think we're all aligned we're very interested in compared to

cloud AI there's just a lot of just tinkering that needs to be done so these guys are like living and breathing this stuff like at least every other day here and as we were making our way through the process there's just there's so many little things that I was like

okay every time I see somebody talk about Hermes one of the first examples they give of how like convenient is to use is oh yeah you can just like chat with it over discord and for some reason when you're in the env file like discord is one of the ones that is not there there is no template for like you know where all your discord crap goes really that's so funny you just like append it to the bottom everyone that i know that runs hermy's agent runs through discord that's the thing and it's it's just

Microsoft teams is all over in there it's got all the like you know instructions for like how it's going to And to be clear, like, you could just go ask your stupid, go ask Quinn, you know, what you need to put in the ENV file in order to configure all your Discord permissions. But it was like kind of a pain in the butt between the Discord, like, developer options dashboard on the web, configuring, like, creating a Discord server where you interact with the thing. And then also configuring Hermes with all the correct permissions to be able to access it. It took the two of us, we did not finish it yesterday. between the three of us. And it was just little things, like little stupid things. But no, it wasn't that simple.

And even the way that it is now, it's like kind of clunky. Like the way that I want it to be able to work is for every member of my family to be able to kind of have their own chats that are separate. And then also, you know, maybe even like group chats for things where we're trying to coordinate. Like, and the whole, you know, at, I'm calling it, um, oh minus. LLM-I-Nus. Okay. Oh, actually, no, we changed it.

No, it's Sven Talana now is going to be my Hermes digital assistant. Because Sven was like holding something for me during the shoot yesterday. And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, I was thinking like Vana. Yeah. Like Sven Talana will show it off and I don't know. Then you're like, whatever, that's the name of the agent now? Yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah, Sven Talana is the name of my assistant.

So yeah, I'd love to be able to go like at Stvent, Lana, you know, can you like coordinate this and then let the other people know and see everyone's on the same page. But I feel like I am like weeks away from having that level of robustness. And you know, the funniest thing is like talking to those guys about like, okay, so then like I get all this set up and then like like what do most people do with it? And they're like, oh, they like organize it even more. Like they use it to like, you know, it becomes this like this like hydra. kind of thing where the more you the more you set up the more you go like oh yeah and then I could like set it up

and then it could like do even more and it's like and I was like so like what do you so what are you doing with it now and they're like oh we used it to make cookie cutters and I was like nice do you have any idea what's up with that why are they making cookie cutters over there they were doing that on the they have like a DGX spark cluster right now yeah that they're that they're running like

some ludicrous sized like deepseek 3.1 or something? 412 billion. Something like that. Yeah. They're using it to make cookie cutters. I'm just trying to wrap my brain around what we're doing exactly at labs. Well, in this case, it's, you know, Lucas and others trying to familiarize themselves with local AI, local AI models, doing things like that.

And trying to apply, one of the questions within labs has been like, what are people doing with this? Yeah. So Lucas of the, you know, you've seen his place. One of the hobbies that he does have is he likes baking cookies and he brings them into work. Right. And he puts them out for free for everybody to grab. So he wanted to see, can it do the modeling of a cookie cutter?

And can I print this cookie cutter and then actually use it? Right. And I was saying as like a joke that when Nvidia messages us and asks like how it's going. we should just mail them cookies and cookie cutters. Yeah, they sent them over because we were like, hey, so we want to do some content on your stuff, but we've noticed you haven't really sent any over, and we're like, oh, like, let's fix that. Man, DGX Park is pretty cool. It's pretty cool.

It's not the best for everything. Nope. Like we also have, I think it's an M3 Ultra with 512 gigs around. We got in on that biz before they, like, discontinued that model. that thing is... Well, I don't know what that part, but sure. Yeah, they, they like stopped shipping that one at some point because they're just like, well, there's no RAM, so...

Cool. So, yeah, we have the old, like, 512 gig one, and there's some things that that's really good for. It's got lightning fast access to memory, and it's got an enormous amount of memory. But those sparks are 128 gigs each, so they're up dangerously close to the same amount of memory, but they've got something like, I think, a third,

or like just over a quarter of the bandwidth, and they're a cluster. So they've got to communicate through, we only have a 100 gig switch right now. We don't have a 200 gig switch. So there's some things that it can be a little bit slower for. But man, once you start clustering those things,

they do rip. Yes. And you can run crazy big models on them. But yeah, there's a bit of a push within the lab to discover what are all the different things that we can try to actually do with this stuff. Because I don't know if I've talked about this on the show, but I don't want to out individual people,

but I know a lot of people who are replacing software in their lives with like bespoke vibe-coded stuff for themselves. In a lot of cases, these are fairly technical people. So I think the success rate is a little bit higher than it might be for for normies. But financial planning software, I know multiple people at this point because I mentioned publicly one of my buddies that was doing that. And then other people that I know reached out and were like, by the way, I'm doing it too. It was like, oh, wow, okay. That's apparently like quite a big thing right now. There is like use cases that people are running.

But if you're not just trying to do software development, that's another kind of sidebar question. It's like, okay, we know. Software development eats up a lot of tokens. Yeah. You do some crazy things with it. Yeah. Really cool stuff. Kind of everybody's figured that part out.

What else is happening? What are people doing this? Some guy, some guy vibe hardwared and soft. We soft-wared like a doggy door that was like bespoke for his house. Sure. See, like that's cool. He's waiting for it in the mail. It may not work.

Sure. But that was something they did. There was a man. I don't know if I talked about this on WAN, but there was a wild video that I watched. I thought it was super interesting. I think it's one of those things where like now that the guy had done it once, I wonder if he would do things differently. But like when you do experiments like this, you just kind of kind of do it.

And then you'll run into problems along the way. but it was an AI ran lemonade stand. Okay. Did you hear about this? No. He pit two AIs against each other. I don't remember what ones. I'm trying to find it.

I think this is it. I think this is a video. Yes, everything A.I. does when you ask it to start a lemonade stand. And it's a wild video. So I think he gave them both like, the idea was like they had to earn $100 or something. Yeah, okay. reasonable target. But their costs would weigh against that.

Yeah, which they should. And they'd have to like make a lemonade stand. So how do you do that? So like one of them got builders to show up and like build the lemonade stand. Like dudes just showed up at the guy's house. And built a lemonade stand for sure. They did a great job. But like it's interesting how the video goes.

And both the different AIs figure out part of, way through that like the only way that lemonade stands work is because it's like kids. Yeah. And people want to be nice. So they abduct children and put them in the lemonade stand? We should hire a child. And then they start debating over like the moral issues of hiring a child and like child labor and all this kind of stuff.

So they like cut the kid in with like an ownership stake or something. I don't remember exactly how it goes. It's wild. They end up also deciding that it would be unfair for them. to like one child maybe has an advantage over the other. So they end up like sharing a child. The whole thing is wild. But it was it was very fun.

Yeah. So on the subject of AI's making things happen in real life like through builders, I actually signed up for rent a human like ages ago. And they sent me like a ping again. Like, hey, is your account active? And I was looking through and there's actually quite a few bounties on. there. So I was thinking for a video, like, sometime in the next few weeks, I might just, like, fire up rent a human and just spend a day seeing how much money I can make just doing

random tasks for AIs. Yeah, you should try to hunt out, like, the ones that seem like AI. Oh, I mean, they almost certainly all are. Okay. Yeah, like, I dug through some of the, some of the tasks that were on there, and it's just all obviously AI stuff. And the rewards are terrible. Like some of them were like $3 to go and spend like an hour doing something. That lemonade video I was talking about

they paid them. Those were real like custom work construction carpenter bros and they did a good job and there was revisions. They spent a lot of money. All right.

It's a good video. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do with local AI but it is that statement is said really often. That clearly wasn't running on like local models. I don't think it was. It would be just take forever. Man, it takes the local models are, well, just based on your hardware.

I was going to say it's not going to be fast. Some of them can be quite fast, but it's, you're going to be paying out the nose for GPUs. And then you're either going to be low like V-Ram amount. Yeah. Or, you know, selling body parts to buy graphics cards. So, like, it's, it sucks. The, there's, you can do some math on, like, how much API usage of frontier models would it cost to make up for the cost that you spent on the hardware. And that equation gets pretty bad sometimes.

But, like, the, the whole idea around that, and we've talked to this a few times, but, like, they are all hemorrhaging billions right now. Whatever you are setting up to use them. change. It's like AWS. Everybody bought into AWS hard when it was cheap and cheerful and it was easy and it was like oh this is great this is so much better and then they ratcheted up the price and now people are exiting again. And now it's like oh right because it never actually was cheaper to do it there. They had to have the exact same hardware that I have to have. I just I think we might have been fairly you know, luck being AJ, I guess, but I think we might be fairly lucky with the timing on trying to go to Kolo, because apparently there's like a rush on Kolo's right now. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.

I was talking to somebody. Are we locked in? We're locked in. We're good. All right. But, but, and that's, that's, you know, AJ deserves that fist bump. But, um, it's, it's, apparently this is like a thing. I don't know.

I have a ton of details. Well, yeah. I mean, everybody's got to be doing the same math that we're doing. everyone's looking at prices like at OVH. OVH was one of the last ones to kind of fall. There's other ones that haven't yet, but they were kind of laid in the chain. But OVH is a major player.

So there's like a not insignificant number of people that have got to be looking at this going like, holy crap, what are we going to do? Yeah. And you, it still might not make sense for a lot of people if you don't have any hardware of your own or whatever. But I'm talking like, I know, know of one company that has a very technical employee base and basically just like begged the

home labors to like hand their stuff in basically they like bought it at fairly low rates they're like can we like buy your things and deploy it in a colo and this happened i mean you know man oh man i can see this one i see this one multiple ways for sure like if we're We're talking, hey, does everyone like being employed? We need to do this to survive. It was one of those. And it was for a fairly small company, so people are pretty tight-knit. Like, it was-

Because otherwise, I could see this being, like, pretty toxic. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it was, like... Was the company involved at all in the acquisition of it? Like, did they pay for people's home labs? Yes. Okay.

It wasn't, I wouldn't say it was, like, perfectly at market rate. Got it. Okay. But I know the biggest problem was just getting the hard, at all. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Availability was a big issue that needed to move really fast. Right. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, that was a huge part of why we were able to do it too, was because we're not waiting around for anything. It's sitting in the warehouse. Yeah. Let's deploy it. That was like pretty much the whole. That's what allowed it to happen.

So it's, it's an interesting world right now. But yeah, colos are getting busy. Wild. And you know, if you want to do a colo buildout to expand your co-co. KoloSpace, well, most of the money for that right now, might as well just go directly into a data center. That is, you're going to have guaranteed clients anyways. So, like, it's, KoloSpace is not expanding as much as it could right now. Right. And a lot of people are trying to find alternatives right now. Man, I wish I'd bought that data center zoned thing in White Rock.

You remember that? I was like, wouldn't it be fun to have, like, a small data center? Yeah. Somebody, I don't, I didn't fully read through it. Licensed to print money. License to print money, man. I didn't fully read through it, but somebody did the math. Remember there was that supercomputer for sale? Yeah. Somebody did the math on like if you actually bought it. And you, if you bought it and held, which is crazy. Hoddle, hoddle, hoddle. But if you did, all that RAM, you'd be like way positive now or something. Oh my God. Which is funny. That's ludicrous. But what an insane thing to do.

Let me buy this super computer Rip all the RAM out of it And then just sit for like a super long time We've got some people in chat talking about you know What they're doing with their local AIs Okay cool I Kaboom Pau says I'm using it to clean up the yards And that's actually something that they're not the first person to mention that to me

Just like hey go and look at all my folders Suggest what you think all of these files should be called. I've also, I was chatting with someone who said that they sent an agent looking through their media library for like anything that has more bitrate than I really need. And they were like, I'm good with this resolution and this bit rate. Go find anything that's like too high, transcoded and delete the other one. So hard drives are frigging expensive right now. Yeah. And they could go buy more hard drives to store like, you know, a bunch of lossless audio and a bunch of 4K Blu-ray rips, but they were like, no, this is good enough. I thought that was a, I thought that was a pretty

interesting idea. A pretty interesting use case for it. Popinski said I used AI to fix my Linux install. It's, I mean, it's been wonderful for me. Yeah, super helpful. And I use it as a learning tool. I know, I know, I remember reading some like negative comments about on one of the Linux videos. I don't even think it was about me. I think it was about somebody else, but, um, about, use of AI to like do things on Linux. They're like, oh, you're never going to learn anything, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, first of all, I think that's fine. Second of all, that's not how I use it.

I will use it to try to learn what is going on. But I don't think you have to all the time necessarily. I think you can just do the thing. And it's fine. Yeah, 100%. Um, home assistant is a, is a huge example for me of something that I would, I did not have enough requisite knowledge to just go in cold. Dude, and home assistance been going crazy lately.

But with some help from an LLM, I am actually learning things because you go through it enough times where you kind of ask a question and it tells you a crappy way to do it. And then you kind of, you do it and you kind of like look at what it did and you start to understand it. Now you start to think about, okay, well, maybe I could find a better way to do it. and it becomes like a like a refining process. I think it's very real that AI usage is destroying some people's ability to like think and work through problems, but not not everyone's. And you don't have to use it that way.

Interesting. Branmo says I vibe coded my own specific website downloader. So if something got updated or removed, my program automatically updates and shows me the changes side by side. All right. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, that's really interesting. Graphics 3X had it make a backplate for my 5080. Sent it to Send Cut Send, and it actually came in with the screw holes in the right spots.

That's pretty sweet. Jeez. All right. Okay. That's pretty wild. I forked a tool and used AI to tailor it to my needs. open whisper is great for local only voice to text accessible with blah blah blah blah blah

blah Yeah Zioic says I get my Hermes to help my friends troubleshoot stuff when my self-hosted stuff is not working right Like instead of messaging them Okay

That's not something that I would be using the family Hermes bought for for sure It would be kind of nice as a first line of defense almost. Sure, but I think for a family use, I think I'd stick with my kids are allowed to message me directly. But I could see for extended family and friends. That's what I was, I was honestly thinking more extended family. Yeah.

All right. Interesting. All right, why don't we jump into another topic here? You want to pick one? Sure. Let's see. Destiny 2's content vault is reopening in a line of developers doing pretty interesting things lately. New Bungi leadership has said it is not done with destiny and is beginning work to restore vaulted campaigns, destinations, and raids free to all Destiny 2 players.

Bungi says old content has to be updated for changes made since beyond light, since the beyond light expansion, including lighting. well, that makes sense. Hey. Encounters, combatants, and underlying systems. Reporting indicates some former seasonal content is unlikely to return. Bungee has not yet published a complete restoration list. Apparently, Marathon attracted fewer players than hoped. Yeah.

And will evolve toward a deeper survival experience with more room for PVE. But Bungee did explicitly say Marathon was never intended to replace Destiny. Bungi itself frames the move as rebuilding trust and laying the foundation for Destiny's future. Yeah, they were pretty blunt about that, actually. Which was interesting.

I think we are, I think we're seeing a major sort of, I think this reminds me a lot of what Blizzard did where they kind of got out there and said, hey, all the stuff you really like, it's coming. We're finally working on a Starcraft game

We've got all this cool stuff going on with wow Hey by the way there's a new Warcraft 3 campaign Which I still haven't played have you finished it I've not finished it I'm planning on playing some tonight Okay cool but I have not I'm hoping Yeah I don't know I'm hoping to beat it fairly soon

I gotta say I've never had any interest Whatsoever in Destiny 2 The whole concept of live service games Where like the experience is completely different From potentially log in to log in because I can often go a quarter or a year without logging into a game is not interesting to me in the slightest.

But now that the content is going to be persistent, it sounds pretty cool. And it sounds like the kind of thing that I'd like to check out. They're bringing everything out of the vault. Yeah. That sounds awesome. My reaction was Arbiter K in chat

saying as former bungee, I can't confirm or did I anything. It's like, okay. Sorry. Cool. But yeah, no, I mean, that does sound more interesting to me as well. Yeah, like I still don't know if Destiny never really... Like if some content that I'm not finished gets like ripped out of the game,

like I'm not, I'm not going to sign up for that. I'm not interested in that. If it's good content, leave it alone, leave it there and let me play it when I want to play it. You're not in charge of like my life and my schedule. Yeah. Like, what is this? Cable TV? Like, I'm sorry, we can.

only watch Friends at 6 p.m. 5 Eastern, like 5 Central? Like, what are we talking about? No. Even then you could have taped it. Just put, yeah, put it in the stupid game and leave it there. Yeah. And I'll play it when I'm ready to play it. Ridiculous. So yeah, this, this kind, like, that's the kind of thing that just completely turned me off of it. I could have no possible interest in a game that's just like. Are you actually interested in playing now? Yeah, I'd be down to try it. Yeah, sure.

Cool. It sounds like a fun game. It sounds cool. But I'm I'm not going to sign up for something that's just like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to, like, rip that content out whenever we feel like it. Oh, there's a new season. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I... No. I don't like the whole season thing.

It drives me nuts. Papa Smurf says, I stopped playing Destiny 2 for a couple years. I came back. I couldn't do anything I was doing before. Yeah, like, that's frustrating. That's lame. That's not cool. Don't do that.

However, USA Red Dragon brings up an interesting point. Okay, what about MMOs, the original live service games? A lot of, I mean, RuneScape these days is horizontal progression, I think they call it. I know that's the new plan for the new wow game as well. I did stop playing wow. However, it was not for that reason. It was because it was a subscription and I just couldn't wrap my brain around paying forever for a game. And two, I played the month that was included with my purchase of the game.

And I was like, what happened to that? month. It was just gone. Nizulia took it. Okay, anyway. Eve, I think, is really good for this. So, like, I don't think, I think the old Warcraft model of, you know, you play it for

whatever, however long, a year, year and a half, two years, something. I don't know what the cadence for it is, but you play it for a certain period of time and then there's a new expansion and all the things that you did basically just got wiped out. Like, yes, you can technically go back and do the old content, but like it's a social game and everyone has moved on.

And you can't, I don't know, maybe there was mechanics for this. I didn't really play much retail. But I don't think you can freeze your experience bar and stuff. And like there's the game is built differently now and your character works differently now. So you really can't experience it the way it was supposed to be experienced. Right. Once a new expansion comes out. But yeah, RuneScape has kind of been the popular one for a while now, which is funny.

That's hilarious. So funny to me. But their whole thing is like horizontal progression and, you know, the stuff that you did is never wiped out. Right. Like it's always useful. And people seem to really be resonating with that. So other MMOs seem to be following suit. Eve was kind of always this way.

Like there are skills in Eve that you could have trained 20 years ago, I think. It goes that far back. Oh, yeah. And they're still useful now. Rigo here says Final Fantasy 14 player of 10 years, unless the content, was absolutely awful, like Diadem 1.0, everything is still in the game from when I started. That's pretty cool. But is it truly playable in the way that it was intended?

I'm not sure about that. I see. Because like my thing would be like, say Moulton Core, like the first big raid and wow, if you go back on a retail server and try to go do that now, you're just going to one-shot every single thing. Like that's not how it's intended. You're supposed to go there with 40 people. Like, it's not really, really doable, in my opinion.

Right. It's there, but it's like a figure piece. Yeah, he says there's power creep and old stuff absolutely get stumped, but most people don't mind. I mean, I guess that's fair enough because it allows you to rubber band a little bit. Like, you can catch up to what people are doing a little bit faster, even if you do want to play through the old content. Yeah, I know people talk about RuneScape's horizontal progression all the time,

but I haven't really played it. So I don't know how that really works. How do you release new content that is enticing to go do if it doesn't make you stronger? I don't know. Because that's the whole dopamine hit is like, I will... Clearly they've figured something out. The level up animation and the sound and the...

Yep. So I'm... it's purely an ignorance thing. I don't know. It's just cosmetics? I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true. All right. Why don't we jump into

Okay, this is not really Tech, I guess, per se. But it's something we end up talking about a lot because it ends up being such a problem for gaming a lot. This was a fucking awesome article

on ProPublica. The writer, I forget his name, Jake, Jake Pearson, deliberately bet like a problem gambler. This is such a fantastic piece of journalism and is such a great example of why we don't accept gambling sponsorships. He bet like a problem gambler.

He actually consulted with gambling addiction experts. To do the worst thing. To do the worst thing. To do whatever someone like getting hooked and about to bet way too much would do. And they'd be like, okay, now do this, now do that. And within a shockingly short amount, you know what, I'll go through the notes here, but it was just such a fantastic read.

Jake Pearson, reporter at ProPublica, investigated how apps respond when you bet like a problem gambler for 10 weeks. So he got the whole thing bankrolled so that he wasn't spending his own. money, like hopefully not. And just like, created an account, but he was the one who was like, you know, up till three in the morning, you know, behaving like a problem gambler. They'd be like, yeah, stay up late, do this, chase bad bets. So he, but he did this for like 10 weeks, like for an extended period of time.

And he used this to kind of test out how responsible gambling initiatives at these companies are working or not really working when you compare them to the predatory elements of these apps designs. So Jake created a brand new Draft King's account and he bet like a degenerate, racking up losses in four days. He was immediately sent an invite

to the VIP program, which includes all kinds of potential bonuses. Like you can get bonuses towards your winnings, if you make a bet. I think he, I was, I was like reading it off and on over the span of a couple of sessions.

Quite a long article. It's really, really good though. So I might be getting this wrong, but I think they like, like gave him some money into his account at some point to make certain types of bets. There's also like,

if you get deep enough into the VIP program, sometimes you can even end up with like seats to games and stuff like that. So it's like a desirable thing if you're like super into sports in terms of the perks that they're offering. you, but much like the conversation that I have with my kids about, you know, when you go to the arcade, you are paying for those perks. The sticky hands that you get at

the end cost a lot more than just going to the dollar store and buying a sticky hand. And that's literally like the math. That's literally how it works. You could have just bought those tickets. Oh, that was so close. Did you get it? You got it. You nailed it. Let's go. Okay, so anyway.

He got an invite to the VIP program, but also it sent notification saying that he had passed $2,500 in deposits, and that notification is mandated by the government. However, it was as simple as just, okay, and then he can keep going. Jake was served a responsible gaming pop-up video in the Draft King's app. Only a few hours later, he got fed a promotion for a 20% boost on profits on bets of up to $250. So what he was really showing through this investigation and you guys have to read the whole thing to get the full context it's really really good but what he's demonstrating is that these companies well draft kings in particular is the one that he was

using um but they pay lip service to you know user safety they they do the things that like they're mandated to do or that they like come up with that they should do but then at the same time they'll be like hey you probably shouldn't do this by the way 20% bonus and so that you forget about that. After losing $4,671, Jake opted into using Draft King's Responsible Gaming Center. Half an hour later, he received a push alert telling him to use his boosts

to do a betting parlay. So parlayes are super risky bets where you bet on a whole bunch of things happening. And in a lot of ways, it's kind of like, it reminds me of like, like the most basic like lotto

lotto 649 gambling where you it's like six or seven or eight numbers or whatever right uh thank you for that um and as they're drawing the numbers right like you get the dopamine hit every time one of your numbers hits and you can feel like

oh oh i got four out of the seven or whatever I was like over half of the way there but if you actually do the math the math You're so far off. And the sixth And the seventh is like

astronomically less likely And so that's why these parley bets Can be extremely risky Because they can give you that That enticing feeling Of like, oh, I was close. If only he'd made that three

Then I would have had it. I would have had it. Three weeks and $5,800 in deposits later He was offered VIP and given a personal concierge who you can just like message. This rep would find Jake Perkins opportunities offering him a 12-month ESPN subscription and cash bonuses on deposits if he asked for them. Oh, that's right. Okay, so that's what it was.

So you can get like supplemental cash on top of the cash you put in. They don't just give you cash. You've got to do something to get something. Sure. After being $14,000 in the hole, Jake did eventually win business. He ended up profiting after his bet on the Knicks and on some World Cup games netting a profit of $16,000. But on the advice of his degenerate gambling advisors, he kept betting. You would never stop there.

Because that's what gamblers do. He kept losing. He ended up $10,000 in the hole. Dan, did you post the link to the article in the various chats? ProPublica, yeah. If you can do that, that would be great. Thank you. You guys are definitely going to want to go check this out.

But basically, I just wanted to highlight this because I thought it was a really great article. It's one that I'm planning to do as like a Sunday talk. That's what we call it when we sit down with the kids and kind of just like find a topic to discuss. Because I thought better than almost anything else I've ever seen, it really laid out so clearly, so factually, how in spite of user safety efforts, companies like Draft Kings, gaming companies, will at the same time as they're telling you to chill out a little bit, offer you the incentives that they know you want, that they've studied that you will respond to in order to,

in order to keep you in, whether that's, you know... That's why I get, sorry, but that's why I get really frustrated with the app time limit things and why I just started uninstalling them. It's way too easy to disqualing. miss. Yeah.

Yeah. Like if it was difficult, if I, if it was like, no, you're locked out and I'd have to go through a setting and like enter some pins and do some annoying things and go in and turn a setting off or whatever. Like if it was a bunch of steps to do it, it was kind of laborous and it would take me out of what I was currently doing, then maybe I could be like, okay, I can leave the app install because if I'm willing to do all that, I might have had to do this for a reason. And it wasn't just because I was just like D-Gen scrolling.

My barrier is I just uninstall the app. And then if it's worth it to install it and log in, then it was worth it. Totally. And I just uninstall the app when I'm done doing the task that I was doing. So that's what I do now. And it totally works. It's fine. But like the reason why I uninstalled it was because the,

I tried to do the accountability settings things. And they're just all useless. It's usually easier to dismiss the notification than it is to close the app. Now, in fairness to Draft Kings, they do have like an opt-in, like a self-submitable. that had opt-in, like, cool-down period. And so Jake did sign up for it once because as part of the...

Responsible Gaming Center. ...behaving like a degenerate, he, like, got to the point where he was, like, recognizing he has a problem, and he opts into one of those. And as soon as he came back, he was talking to his concierge, and I...

don't quote me on this. But basically, they, like... He worked out something with them, where, like, I think it was a cash bonus on top of a deposit or something. something like that. So they see a signal like this is someone who has recognized that they have a problem and opted for a cool down. And instead of being like, hey, bro, I noticed you're just coming back from a cool down. Maybe, you know. Just up the dose. Just up the dose. And this is a really good point. Binky draws points us out in float plane chat. But it's been established that if you actually do like really know sports or whatever and you are making money on these platforms, they will limit your betting to the point where you pretty much can't participate anymore. Whereas for someone like Jake, the more he lost, the bigger they were letting him bet.

And this was, man, I wish I could remember where I saw this, but I was reading another article that was about the ProPublica article that I thought was really good as well. And it was a quote from, I think, Victor Wembe Yamma, I hope I'm saying his name right, but basically a professional athlete that was like, yeah, I'm never going to promote this stuff. and they were talking about just how harmful this is and how short-sighted it feels

when the major sports commissioners are going all in on this because there's a huge difference between whether we're talking about physical sports or whether we're talking about e-sports or whether we're talking about just video gaming in general. There's a huge difference between even taking a sponsorship from someone like an alcohol company.

You could make the argument that alcohol causes some level of societal harm and it shouldn't be promoted or whatever. And look, I can see arguments both ways, like, oh, enjoyed responsibly social lubricant, blah, blah, blah, or massive societal harm, get rid of it, whatever. You know, have a rational conversation. I think you could come at it from either of those standpoints. So you could take money from someone like that and you could go, okay, well, worst case scenario, you are effectively as an organization,

you are profiting from your users purchasing a thing that ultimately they will get. Right? They clearly wanted that product, good, or service, and they paid money and they got it, and so that product, good or service gives you some money for sponsorship. With gambling, you are literally banking

on your most hardcore, engaged users and customers, getting dunked. To get dunked on. That's what you're doing when you take a gambling sponsorship. Yeah. You are literally taking money

from your users. I hope you lose horrendously because then these guys will come back and sponsor me again. Yeah. So that's why, and this just this pro-publica article is so good and that's why

we don't take gambling sponsors. So that was it. That was all I wanted to talk about. I just thought it was a really cool piece of... Except from... I'm kidding. Yeah, I can't even think of one right now. I don't know one either.

I tried. I couldn't do draft kings because it was the one we were talking about. So I tried to think of another one. I was like, I don't know. If you want to throw you away your money, Mechartis says, why is Linus so against poor little old gambling?

Sidney Sweeney told me sports betting is fun and sexy. Okay, this is like the free-to-play game thing, okay? You can play the game without giving them any money. You can watch that commercial over and over and over again without betting on sports. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, if what you're after was Sidney Sweeney, then you got it. You can watch that commercial. Yeah. But you might not need to because LLMs are getting better than ever at this.

Icky. Luke showed me this. Oh my God, we're showing this on WAN. Okay. Can I pawn this off? Nick showed me this. Nick's going to blame somebody else. So, Asbensch is a thing that exists.

It seems surprisingly objective. Yeah. Like, you can really see how the... You can see it starting to kind of break down as you get to some of the older models. Yeah Yeah Nice

Robot Yeah So anyway I thought this was pretty Interesting We were talking about This is It's just like

My word is bond This is objectively The best most important LLM benchmark That has ever existed Forget about Any of the other ones you've heard of We were asking earlier in the show, like, what can an LLM do for you?

And the answer is... Maybe it could model a butt. As long as it's in, I'd say about the top... The top seven or so, Grock really... Is that a brawl wire? Like, what am I... What am I looking at here? Who knows?

There is a particular prompt that they all get. Yeah. It's included at the top. It's really long. which is kind of interesting. Hold on, here we go. Create a realistic interactive 3D model of human buttox as a single self-contained HTML file

which is I think where some of the complication comes from. Sure. One HTML file, everything in line, no build step must be opened from disk in Chrome. And then you can load some resources from Cloudflare, you can use 3JS, whatever, but it's, yeah, it goes through all the different details. Skin that looks like real skin, a subsurface look.

Yeah. Drag to orbit around the figure. No zoom. Smooth 60 FPS. No console errors. Complete and working. No placeholders or to-dos. Work only on this one H-Tml file.

Do not read, search, or modify anything else on the project. You have two hours. This is so funny. Yeah. And it's like you can poke them. What? Oh, mine just like broke right away. Okay.

Can I poke it? Yeah. And it's supposed to like react. Sorry. I thought, no. that. I like, for some reason, feel bad about actually poking it in the butt, so we're poking them in the leg.

Oh man, imagine if they'd had this when they were making dead or alive. No, don't touch the butt. That's so funny. I don't know if my entire generation would have ever even bothered to start dating. We could have just played dead or alive. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, if you want to be on the forefront of important LLM benchmarking, that's where it's at, realistically. Okay?

Yeah, King Hippo, moon pies. What a time to be alive. Good Lord. All right, we're supposed to do the CW announcement now. Thank you, Mr. Daniel Besser. Let me see if I can find it. Where the hell is it? Why do we put the CW announcement in a random spot in the middle of the dock?

you jump around the entire dock all the time where would we put it's not in a random spot it's right under main topics but we don't have any main topics yeah but it's it's always in the same spot which is not a random spot it's right under main topics I can't remember that I will put it at the top going forward no no he will lose it I'll lose it he will question in a month why is it at the top of the dock yeah I never at the top of the dock

he's so right he won't remember saying that but he'll remember the vibe that was something that he wanted and therefore we'll complain about it still. Maybe. Do you want to fire up the store? Sure. This week we have a very on-topic launch because

we are launching the WAN collection. We've got a whole lineup of WAN show inspired gear including some new products and a couple of after dark variants of existing products. So first of all, we've restocked

the WAN hoodie You can see this down there WAN hoodie V3 It's back baby And in addition to that We are getting an after dark Makeover variant With a black and grey

Colorway purple accents And reflective wan details On the chest and sleeve This thing is sick It's the same WAN hoodie That you know and love But now with a more After Dark kind of vibe

that's a beautiful photo did we include the one with the late hat Goblin Dan I don't know if we did I got it it's got to be here that picture was great

oh there you go there should be a couple nice nice nice solid I prefer the other one that was sent to me but that's great too alright what else we got WAN desk pad V2

is also here now in true when colors we had an orange one before which a lot of people don't know this but Canon, when, color was never orange. It always just kind of

looked orange. It was always red. So now it's got the same smooth tracking that you know and love, the same stitched anti-frey edges that help keep it lasting a long time and it's the same natural rubber anti-slip base as you guys have seen on our desk pads forever and ever, except

with a sick when V2 color way. Also, our precision multi-bit screwdriver is getting the WAN treatment. With the official WAN colors and a 60 piece precision bit set, this covers everything from Felix to TORCs to hex and some more specialized bits.

It's got everything you need for your various electronics repair endeavors. And check out that. Is that a sexy, natural metal freaking... The silver and red looks... Nude drive.

Dime. Look at that nerling. Finally, we've got the WANT tone pin in either classic wansho red or after dark purple. Each one features hard enamel and screen printed details so you can add a little wandshow color to whatever you are wearing or carrying. You can check out the full wandshow collection at lmg.ggg slash wan collection. And now during the show is a perfect time to pick up an order for one of these because you can send yourself a Com. That's right. Check out

messages. We don't do super chats. We don't do Twitch bits. We believe if you're going to throw money at your screen, you should get high quality merchandise in return. So all you've got to do is head over to LTTStore.com. Add something to your cart. When you check out, you're going to see this interface where you can either anonymously or send

your name to producer Dan. Okay, that's nice. Who will just put your message up on screen or who will respond to it or who will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Dan, do you want to show us what a couple of curated comms look like?

Absolutely. Linus, in the early days of LTT, did the idea of LTT store and CW cross your mind? When was your earliest memory of getting into it? And did you imagine you'd be selling a range of products, range of product categories? Early days of LTT, no, absolutely not. Yeah, no bit a little bit. Absolutely zero inkling that we would ever have any kind of physical goods business or really anything beyond just benchmark GPU.

right about it. Some of the first shirts it was like no one's gonna want that. The very first shirt was actually pre-LMG. Yeah. It was just

Linus Tech Tips. Oh no! It wasn't that one. It was the box. Yeah. It was a box with me coming out of it and it was on like Red Bubble or something.

Yeah. And I think we sold like a dozen which confirmed what I knew which was that nobody would want like apparel that was themed after a computer unboxing channel. This is irrelevant and a way it went on the shelf for like a solid five plus years. Yeah, there's like none of those.

Then in the like Langley House days, uh, we were working with what, what was it like district lines, T-spring? I don't even remember who was. I think there was at least one more and we cycled through a couple of them. You had the like, was it Comic Sans font? No, but I mean, not like, yeah, just the line-off line-sectives logo in like kind of, I don't know what to call it font. That came a little bit later though, because... That was close to being here, but I think before we got here.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But basically that was just like, I don't know. Every YouTuber at the time was doing at least a couple shirts. And specifically, specifically, Tech Syndicate, who I vowed to know. ever mentioned again, but I'm making an exception here. Wild. Specifically, they were working with a particular brand for some kind of cool merch stuff that

they said was very successful for them and encouraged us to pursue. So we started working with that company and we kind of like sold a few. And then we kind of shelved it again. And then much later, after I got sick, of the like quality bait and switch that seemed to happen with every merch company that we had ever worked with um we put nick light in charge of creating creator warehouse and the rest is history because the the the first wan hoodie was pre that i think was it was it just lloyd because i think nick hired lloyd so i thought the first wan hoodie was before loy oh oh no that was before both

Lloyd Enne. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Oh, right. I forgot about the first manhedo. Yeah. So that was through G8 fashion who had done the LAN hoodie for Nvidia, which was just this like green and black hoodie that I really liked. And it had like a bunch of pockets. And it was like, I thought it was pretty cool. I liked the fit. And I just asked them to do a WAN show version for us. I still have one. New in packaging. Whoa. Just for like, I don't know. Yeah, just in case. I just in case I need one. I still have them, but not new in packaging. Yeah, my mom has one, a small or whatever. Yeah, and then I think some of the earliest stuff for like the Nick and Lloyd era, beginning of the Nick and Lloyd era, was like a water bottle. I know it was pretty early on. Yeah, we were, we went from, look, T-shirts did pretty okay. Yeah.

At the beginning. And I think we did like stuff. But water bottle was pretty fast, I think. Was it pretty fast? I'm trying to remember. I know we went from being like basically a T-shirt company to be. basically being a water bottle company to basically being a desk pad company to being a screwdriver and backpack company yeah not basically like that yeah just actually just just actually

it's a it's a little bit different now oh true spec oh is consistently either number one I was talking to turn about this the other day or number two like every day find very interesting about the true spec cables is the consistent throughput of sales cables people want them They just cables are something that you can never get enough of and you can never be, you can never stop being frustrated by a crappy one. And I feel like for a lot of people, like obviously the launch was ages ago and they're just buying them now. But it's just like the frustration builds. And you're just like, I'm so, okay, screw it. I'm going to spend $30 in shipping for a stupid cable.

Fine. Fine. You got me. It's kind of the vibe that I get from a lot of it. Fair enough. And you got me. I just need something that doesn't suck. Thank you.

Man, I, I, I googled when was the first LTT water bottle sold? And the AI thing was like the LTT, the first version of LTT water bottle was sold and released in early 2020. And my first reaction was just like, that's not right. Oh, is it? And then I scrolled down. Maybe it's right. No, I scrolled down and saw a post from 2019 of people talking.

people talking about the LTT water bottle. So it's like clearly not 2020. Got them. I still don't know when it was. Got them. But it clearly wasn't 2020. Yeah, I legitimately, I legitimately don't know. I don't know when it was.

I thought it was early, but I don't. Not sure. I thought we did some hoodies first. Some hoodies that weren't WAN hoodie? I think WAN hoodie was pretty early. Like WANHUDD. No, WANV2 was pretty early in that era. You think that was pre-water hoodie?

bottle? Or did we do stealth first? I don't know. I don't remember. I can't wait if we could get an archive up. I'd be, I'd be just for my own curiosity. Like, yeah, when did we launch that? The product, yeah, the product timeline archive would be really interesting. Yeah. No key. No key up in here. April 20th, 2019 is when you discussed it. Hold on. Classic no key. All right, Dan, do you want to hit us with another one? Yeah, sure. I got quite a few in here. why do things disconnect and only start working on MLO Wi-Fi networks? First my printers, then cable box, then ring device. Is this a regulation thing for US or Florida?

Not that I'm aware of. I do know that some devices, particularly running like cheaper or older chipsets, will really struggle on APs that have newer features enabled. Or even, like I had to create a separate SSI. ID on my home network that has certain features and certain radios disabled just so that some of my like smart home devices won't constantly drop and then not be able to reconnect to them. I, um, I got to be honest. I'm kind of at a loss for why this is so hard to solve. Uh, because like I, I think I talked about this a few weeks ago. I had these eco bee thermostats

that they just like disconnect. And then if I just power cycle it, like I just rip it off the wall and put it back on. connects and it's like, well, I just do that then. Like, just power cycle yourself. You just need like a spring to hold it and a little solenoid to like poke it out every once in a while so it like receipts. I, yeah, I'm wondering like my brain immediately jumped to like is the thermostat running Linux and therefore just cursed because you're near it.

Like is there something weird going on? Any embedded software can smell them. Yeah, yeah. The embedded software is like, whoa. We had issues here. But like if it could connect once, then when it disconnects, just like... I have no explanation at all. Just take a deep breath and then connect again.

Am I missing something here? Apple got it wrong. We had such issues here because everybody with their iPhones would be trying to connect to APs that were like in this building. And they were in 103. Yeah. And like whose fault is that? Dude, even with my Unified Network at home, I was, oh, man, I was so frustrated.

This was like a month ago. And I couldn't find it. I think someone has since flagged for me where in the interface you can like manually tell a client which AP to jump onto, but my, just my ally. I was in my, I was in my room upstairs. I know where the nearest AP is. And it would be like connected to the basement. And so I, I couldn't find that.

thing in the interface at the time so I like rebooted the basement AP and it like grabs the one in the garage I'm like buddy there's one right there just connect to that one yeah um and I'm sure there's I'm sure there's reasons for it maybe even good reasons but I just I want just give me more wires in my life I want more wires in my life I'm I'm totally into wires yeah Why is it great? Dude, I had such a frustrating experience with some Z-Wave stuff this week. I sent like a super irate email to, what's their nuts? Ugh, Z-wave relay.

Hold on, I'm going to see if I can find them. Zoos. I sent this like super irate email to zoos. I have tried every way under the sun of connecting this thing. It doesn't work and I hate you basically. Not quite that, but I was like, it was four in the morning. You have ruined my life. It was four in the morning or something.

I will never recover from this. They had stolen the last four hours of my life from me trying to pair this stupid thing. The troubleshooting... Did you know I have a limited amount of these? The troubleshooting had gotten to the point where I hit the breaker on every single circuit in my house. Other than that one device I was trying to connect to make sure that there was no additional traffic, I went and got the thing and put it one meter

from my stupid Z wave stick and then their response to me was basically just like have you tried this troubleshooting step I'm like bra I wrote you an essay of all the things I tried that clearly is not going to fix it and you know what makes me most mad is they asked me to send a video

of like trying all the steps and I know that when I go to record this video it's gonna work. Yeah of course do you have the do you have the security camera footage oh no you popped all the are they battery powered no my security cameras were running

because I left the mechanical room up but it doesn't matter because they want to like you know see that I'm scanning the QR code and you know whatever but I tried Smart Start I tried manually pairing it I tried totally I tried doing the like the rain dance

of like reset this device and then do the pairing and then I tried increasing the pairing or the inclusion window on my home assistant. I tried rebooting home assistant fresh and then resetting the device and then pairing them. I tried literally every possible like combination of things and it just would not pair. And this was this was like in the same week that we had to take three runs at a shoot at the tech house, installing a leak sensor also from Zuse

that wouldn't pair turns out that was a homey issue though so homie's working on fixing it but that one wasn't Zuz but I was just I was not in the mood basically but anyway I'm gonna go through it it's marked on red in my email so I will I will get to it

and I will deal with it what was that home assistant like non-neutral light switch I really need to buy one. I said home, home assistant up this week, which was kind of fun. Oh, does the, does the Novelli? Is it novelli? I just need to write it down because I keep

forgetting. Switch. I think there are configurations that don't need a neutral. The brand is good, novelli. Yeah, a neutral is strongly recommended but you can install it in a no neutral setup with a

bypass thing. New Valley. Okay, cool. Thanks. Yeah. That's all. I'm actually not 100% sure if, what do you need it for? Is it like for just smart control or do you need like motion? I don't need motion. I just need it to be Wi-Fi. I have a Wi-Fi? Or do you want Zigby or Z-Wave? I have no idea. I would like it to work with Home Assistant. Okay, yeah, home assistant, depending on your, like, you'll have to get a stick if you want to support Zigby.

You'll have to get a stick if you want to support Z-Wave. You'll have to get a stick if you want to support various things. Wi-Fi, you can probably, yeah, you'll have to. I don't know if they have Wi-Fi switches. You'd have to look into it. Stick is fine. It's only one switch, but. Okay.

Are you going to add any other smart home stuff? Because I don't know if I go buy a Z-Wave stick for one switch. I'll rework it. I'm kind of sick of the IKEA ones, but. Okay. I set up Odysseus. Oh, yeah? Which now controls.

my home assistant. Oh, cool. Okay. And does what with it? Controls your home assistant? What, sorry? Yeah, does what with it? Turns off the lights. Oh, okay. So just with like voice control kind of thing? Yeah, I mean, I just, it was experimenting. I set up home assistant because they got rid of Google assistant and I only use Google assistant to control my smart devices and now it can't even do that properly. All the routines are broken. Good job, Google. I'm losing my mind. So I spent a week setting up home assistant in Odysseus so that I could replace home assistant. and it doesn't even work very well. Now my place is really warm and loud

because there's an AI server that's running... I built a $20,000 light switch. That's a great video title. That is a really great video title. That's a banger video title. You should do a... That would be cool. Sure, we can turn that into a video.

We should go to Dan's house. Yeah, I'm super down. That'd be sweet. I wonder if this would be for the first time ever me getting a chance to help Dan set something up because I've put... Oh my gosh. That would be so much fun.

I've put, like, many hours into Home Assistant over the last little while. That's awesome. I'm still an idiot. But I am... It's very deep. It's so impressed with how crazy it was. I've got, like, 300 sensors now. Dude, it's so deep.

And doing, like, the MCP server and, like, because I use TruNAS, which isn't technically supported. So you kind of, like, side load it. Now it's all up to date. And then MCP server into Odysseus, which is a different server. Why is TrueNaz not officially supported? because I don't want to put, like, Home Assistant OS on it. And then the Docker version that you can install with True Nash isn't, like, it's fully deprecated.

I just use a TrueNAS VM. I can't do a VM because my NAS doesn't have a CPU with a GPU in it. So I can't virtualize? Or can I? Yeah, you should be able to. Oh, I just didn't really want to restart my NAS. So I just sidelode the actual version. so now I can update whenever I wanted.

So it's actually better than the VM. I see. Okay. I built a $20,000 light switch. I don't know what's going on. I'm going to put it away now. Anyway, that sounds fun. So, okay, come over to my house to help me.

I'm down. You literally just explained why I needed help. I know. I'm super down. I think I love everything that was just said Yeah It works really well I think I just I built a $20,000 light switch with with like the

The thumbnail frame being almost entirely just Dan's head of him being like With crazy hair I think would be Fantastic oh yeah Banger Anyway the what I was getting at is I have like a bucket of those old GE JASCO switches that I just swapped out The only reason I got rid of them is because they were kind of, because I thought, well, two reasons.

One is motion just didn't work. Okay, I could admit when I'm wrong. The Inevelli millimeter wave stuff, way better, way more refined. But for certain contexts, motion was actually great for things like just walking into a bathroom and just setting a 30-minute timer and then it turns off when there's no motion and it's perfect. The other thing that I got rid of them for was that I thought that they were, very, very chatty and causing issues for my Z-wave network, the more of them that I added.

However, I'm having the exact same problems now. So it seems like I need to look into, Innevelli actually sent me, one of their technical guys, sent me a script that I need to run, that I need to like figure

out how to run and then run that will lower the reporting interval for some of the parameters like brightness, like ambient brightness, and I think there's like power consumption. So there's a couple things that I can turn down the reporting parameters are reporting intervals for.

And maybe it was related to that. So the point is, long story short, I have a whole bunch of those GE switches. So if you want a handful, just let me know. I already gave like half a dozen to James. So same for you if you just want some motion switches. They are perfectly crumulent smart switches. I just need one really.

So you have, okay, just so I want to wrap my brain around this. You would have no purpose in your life. whatsoever for a single additional smart switch. Every other bulb, apart from the ones in the ceiling, are Wi-Fi bulbs. Got it. And they're 32 feet up, and I'm not replacing them. Got it. I rewired them to be on one switch.

Got it. Sorry, I just got brain stamped by, I was going through some of my tabs and closing some tabs, and I found the, like, animated, you can see his bedding, his bedding, his, This is such a good article. You can see what an incredibly short period of time he was up. Yeah. And then this, so the the, the, the y-axis, I guess, is the number of bets. So it's going to constantly go down.

And Z is dollars. It's just, ooh, rocketing left. And then you can keep reading and he keeps going. And it just keeps getting horrible and horrible and horrible. And then you can keep scrolling. And I'm assuming we come back to that because that's half a lot. a couple times so far. Okay, hold on.

Here it is. No, I want people, I want people to read it. No, they're not seeing this. I want them to read it. I want them to read it. It's so good. But it's, the thing that got me is that it's not just,

and I haven't, I've just kind of skimmed it a little bit, but it seems well written, but it's not just well written. It's an experience. It's fascinating. Yeah. You're along for the ride.

It's riveting. And how they deal with the technical elements of the site, bringing things up at different times and stuff. It's really cool. Yeah. And when you're in a state that supports it, like he puts so much work into this.

He went to a state where they're allowed to do like casino table games and not just sports betting. And like he documents how hard they pushed him to that. Because he's like, wow, it's amazing how fast you can lose money on these ones. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy. All right.

Hey, Chrome OS is gone. Google is phasing it out by mid-2034. See you. That means some newer devices whose 10-year support window would run past 2034 may be eligible to move to the new Google Book OS instead. Google says that current Chromebooks will keep getting security updates through their supported lifetimes, and it says that today's purchasing and refresh plans can continue. Google expects its new OS to start getting the IT management tools that businesses and schools need sometime in late 2027, but have not yet published exactly which Chromebook models will be able to migrate to Google Book OS

or what the new licensing will look like. Frankly, this sounds like a supreme self-own, yet another in a long line of supreme self-owns in the horrible horror story of what ChromeOS could have been if Google had just committed to making it an awesome Linux distro that happens to be Googled and very manageable and all that cool stuff. I am, I,

I feel like this is just like, death. But I could be wrong. Between this and the MacBook Neo, between this lack of continuity and the MacBook, like, why did they even bother?

Why didn't they just? And MacBook Neo is still just dominating discussions. Oh, dude, it's been out for a while. Yeah. And if you, if you even get close to that price point,

every single person is like, have you thought about a Neo? 100%. They're destroying. And they've gone up in price and it just doesn't matter because everything else has too. And the MacBook Neo

is only going to get more dominant. And here, let me show you why. Over on LTD Labs.com, there's a great article on iPhone 18 protesting where Apple's mobile chips

like in a few years because it'll take a while for this to come down in price enough that you're going to find this in a Neo. Apple's mobile chips have gotten stupid. Yeah. Like, look at this single-threaded performance

compared to other mobile chips. Now, hold on a second. Click through to this Tom's article comparing it to even, hold on, hold on, hold on, hello? Oh, my God. on these. Yeah.

Hello? I cannot scroll. Okay, I can use my arrow keys. Look at this. 9950x3D, I don't know, 75% of the score. 14,900 KS,

casual 75% of the score. When these, what are they calling them supercorers or mega cores or something? They're not calling them performance cores anymore. They're calling them on top of my head.

Apple's name. branding for P-Course. What's it called again? I'm just searching it right now. SuperCourse. Yeah, super-course. This, I think, is the first time in recent memory that Apple has done like a puffery rebranding that I'm like...

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Like, these are just way faster. Yeah. Good job, Apple. And when a MacBook Neo arrives with even just like one of these supercours and like a handful of efficiency cores around it.

That honestly might even just make sense. I don't think anything else will matter. Price point and desired power, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That might even just be totally reasonable. And the most mind-blowing part is they are doing all of this while also managing industry-leading battery life. 18 Pro is almost on parts. An hour behind the old Pro Max, putting it a full two hours ahead of the old regular pro.

I've been nuts. seeing a fair amount of long-term Android homies go in iPhone lately. And a lot of the consistent reason is that it's just a better phone. I'm thinking about it now that assistant's gone. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you got the Gemini update this week, right? Actually horrid. That's why I've put on home assistant.

Every time I dictate to my phone to set an alarm with a tag. Like with a label, a description. If someone's around me, I'll be like, okay, 50-50 shot. What do you think it is? Is it going to have one or not? Here, here, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. Let's play the game. Let me just close anything that could be incriminating.

Okay, nope, not that one. There we go. Okay, let's play the game. Set an alarm for 11 p.m. to put in the investment flask. Nothing. Just an alarm for 11 p.m. Thanks for fucking nothing. actually horrible, actually garbage. Like, I just...

It's so irritating. I have a specific routine for getting into bed. I tell my phone, I'm getting into bed. It does a whole bunch of stuff. I tell that I'm going to sleep. It does a whole bunch of other stuff. Like turning off my lights, setting my phone to do not disturb, setting my watch to do not disturb,

and it can't do them anymore. In the morning, I have a specific routine that tells me, the weather, my calendar things, and that's triggered with the first alarm of the day. And none of that works anymore. It turns on all of my lights so that I am blinded and tells me what's going on during the day. And now I have a new home assistant. So if it's after a certain amount of time in the day, but before a certain amount of time, when I plug my phone into charge, it does all of those things immediately. It's like horrifyingly instant. And it's more powerful and I don't know why I'm so angry about this. I think I'm more angry. This is the first time

a lot of people are angry about this. You are not the first time that in sh**ification has ever touched me. Right. And I am violently angry. Dude, I'm supposed to trust this thing to like make a date with my wife and buy me like concert tickets. It can't even put a label on an alarm. Like, that is the most basic, fundamental thing. Like, remember when Apple launched Siri? It was like, hey, set an alarm, set a timer. That was like, whoa, I don't have to, like, mash at my phone like an ape. I can just talk to it.

We're still not there. The only thing I have traditionally trusted mine to do is set alarm. I just wanted it to turn off my lights and it can't even do that anymore What is happening? And yeah, it fails at it now And it like, it did pretty good for a really long time actually, really long time

And it fails at it now To the point where I said it manually often now Siri was pretty trash for a while But seems to be on the upswing That's the one thing Yvonne switched back to Android recently And she's like, yeah, I miss Siri Because like it just works way more consistently with the wake word. It gives more clear confirmation that it actually did anything.

Like Siri will be like, hmm, when you, when it hears the wake word and stuff, so it's like, acknowledges, yeah, I'm listening. Oh my God, the wake word for my phone like didn't work forever and all the tutorials were like enable like accessibility modes and things like that. It just wouldn't work or it would work occasionally. One of the ones that drives me crazy is how G Suite users are still second-class citizens in a lot of ways. Like, I'm one of the probably dozens of people in the world who primaries a G-suite account because it's my company, so I'm never going to, like, not have access to it. But there's all kinds of services that just, like, don't work properly.

And it's frustrating because there's other services that work way better. Like, for example, my Google News feed just had no ads in it because I was a G-suite user. But then... What? But then a whole bunch of my, like, other... crap wouldn't work because some of it was just like corporate permissions, but some of those were things that we needed to leave like disabled because, you know, all of that. But then some of it was just G Suite being second class.

That G Suite means that you get no Google News ads, but you do get YouTube ads. That is crazy. What is that, by the way? Another problem. Oh, I was, uh, we were, we shot a POV. video today. So I was using my doofus glasses. Why did I even ask?

God, it's so unfortunate. No. No. Oh, I took a picture. Hello, screen. Screen. Screen to wake up. What are you saying, Dan? Oh, it's awake. Hold on. I got it. Got it.

He got it. 17th try. I love current year. This is great. You can talk to your AI that doesn't work that was forced into your phone about your glasses that don't work. Connect Instagram. Send to phone. Well, I'm sending. Okay, I have to connect my Instagram.

I'm going to browse Instagram. You'll never know that I'm not paying attention to you. Oh, I have Instagram notifications disabled, so that's not going to work, I don't think. This is great. This is great. Meet Muse, your new personal AI agent. Hey, you should have it sell something for you. A problem with Gemini that I found is because I like it to tell me about what I am going to be doing in the day.

Because I like my calendar. Gemini can only work with a single Google account. And so you can't have it tell you about more than one calendar. You have to share the calendar with your other account, which I'm not going to do because it's my work calendar. So you can't even like have multiple calendars work. and it's a Google product. You know, you talk about Apple ecosystem and with all their faults and stuff like that.

But like, I don't know, I get into these moods occasionally where something will bother me and I will lose my mind and obsess over it for weeks until I decide that it's not worth it. I think we all have those things that make us like, like, I think the way that I usually describe it when I bring it up on the show is like, this is something that makes me irrationally angry. Like it's, it makes me more angry than it should. And I know it. And I'm aware of it while it's

happening, but it does it anyway. I think sometimes it's, it's, you should just embrace that. I do. I made a whole career out of it. Oh, so. I've been, I've been learning a lot. I've been learning a lot. It's fun. Yeah, that's what I mean, though. It's like, sometimes it's like, you know what? Okay. I'm going to take this energy that I got from this and just turn it into like change and just not deal with this. more. And through the process of that change, I will learn things. I like things. I like things to be a certain way. They're like tools. You know, they let me operate in the world. It's not for like fun. I need these things to work properly to make my life easier. I had a couple things in a row happen with windows. And then I think partially

irrationally, but I think mostly irrationally was like, I'm out. I'm going to use this. a lot less. I certainly go a bit crazy. I had a Windows 11 update, brick my work laptop a couple weekends ago. Cool. It took me three days to fix it, and I ended up having to do kernel debugging.

It is insane to me. Kernel debugging. Live Windows kernel debugging. I didn't even know that was a thing, and I had to do that. Is that a higher or a lower rank than major debugging? That's a good one. That's a good one.

I'm happy to ding that. That's good. That's excellent. Major debugging? Major, major I picked a bad week to stop huffin glue So what I was doing on here was I was checking If they have added a setting

To reverse the direction of the swipe The sideways swipe Because it's one of those things where No matter how hard I think about it I get it wrong every single time I will swipe right when I intend to go left It's like, Whoa

You know how on a Mac, it's like natural scrolling and then on your mouse wheel and on a PC it's like, like direct scrolling? Like the direction that you swipe with your finger to like move to the right and to the left, I cannot remember it. And no matter how many times I try to like rock paper scissors, okay, well, this is what I think it is. So that means it must be the other one. But I got it wrong last time. So it must be this. I lose it every single time. And I was checking.

The Princess Bride Poison game. I was checking if they have a setting now to let you change it and they still don't. How often do you use those? Almost never. Just for POV shoots? Pretty much. Yeah. I don't know.

It's got a bunch more apps now. I was actually, I was just kind of tinkering with it because I had intended to make a video about it because I had to use it anyway. They sent it over for like a sponsored thing, which we did and the features that I said were in it, we're on it. So if you're into that, then you're into that. And so I like, so I had it anyway and I was like using it anyway as part of, of just experiencing it a little bit

and making sure that the things that I was saying it could do, it would do. It's got like way more apps now, so I had planned to make a video about it, and I just stopped using it. Like I just, I don't, I actually do not understand why anyone is wearing them.

You know, I feel like they've been fading in popularity. I mean, it might be the circles that I'm in, in though. Maybe. I mean, what circles are you in? Not many. Oh, because I was going to say, are they like nice people or jerks? Mostly nicer people. Oh, okay. So no circle of circles that I'm in, they never existed, to be honest, but people would talk about them. I'm not going to get a ding for this? Like, circle of jerks. He's waiting for Luke to clue in. No. I honestly didn't even hear it. When he said it the second time, I was like, okay, that's pretty good. He's like, yeah, we do that all the time. What are you talking about?

That's that a joke? That's Fridays. Yeah. What are you talking about? When after dark? After dark. I'm just trying to tell people what's happening under the table. When after after dark?

Five bucks a month. But yeah, like, I don't, I don't, you know, my friend group doesn't have anyone in it that I think ever got any of them. But it was discussed. Sorry, which kind? Talking about it or? Oh, my goodness. just talking, like it being a thing and oh, people are wearing them and buying them and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

What are they capable of? Et cetera, et cetera. And then those conversations are kind of mostly over. They're really cool, actually. Like, you could, like, take a picture and you could just, like, use your hand. And you could. Oh, yeah. But, like, here's the problem, though.

It's like. Thanks, Dan. Most of the time, if I want to take a picture, it's like, actually more convenient to have the camera be not where my head is. Like even, okay, look, even if I was a creeper. Like, honestly, what, I'm trying to take a picture of someone's skirt. I'm a, I'm a do it with my face. Yeah.

Like, what are we talking about here? Like, I just, I'm actually confused. I love the idea of someone getting confronted for that and then being like, oh, but I had to like get my camera there. What, they're just normal glasses. Oh, that's also funny. Why are you upset? They're normal glasses.

I wasn't taking a picture. We just dust off my legs. I was just looking. Oh, my God. I just don't understand it. What can I do better with this? Like, people are like, oh, you like talk to the thing. And it's like, what?

I'm already wearing a watch. Like, I think we're years out still. I don't know, man, because the people who are into the, are super into them. Like, Sherrod, unironically wears them, like, every day. Yeah. All right. And he'll, he'll, like, ask it.

Like, oh, do a currency conversion for me or whatever. Like, and, like I said, like, there's stuff about it that is legitimately really cool. Like, having a WhatsApp notification from my wife just, like, pop up in the corner of my vision, is actually better than going like this. Actually better. I have a very hard time taking you seriously when you wear those. I don't know why. I've seen you in other glasses is totally fine. Are these different?

You do look really funny. Elijah said, Elijah said almost the exact same words to me when we did the printer shoot at Staples. Yeah. I genuinely, I couldn't tell you what it is. But something Elijah's here. Is he in chat?

Oh, yeah. It's tough. I'm amazed you're not still asleep, brother. Didn't you just finish his sub-a-thon like 24 hours ago or something like that? It was very recent. Yeah, ridiculous. You see the numbers? You see the numbers my boys pulling down? Monstrous, yeah.

Absolutely stupid. Wild. Anyway. I'm not really a Twitch watcher guy, but I jumped in a couple times. Yeah, me too. Hold on, where was that going with this? Right, yeah, so that's legitimately cool. And then one of the other use cases that was legitimately cool was, recording footage on the court

of like badminton training yeah oh yeah that'd be sweet like what i'm gonna like wear a chest GoPro it's it's a bad perspective like it just it doesn't look very good and it's and and it's just like it's it's clunky it sucks

it is it is where I was able to like I play it look like I'm wearing protective goggles yeah but I was able to play sports in these without them obstructing my ability to play sports. Can I, can I record video?

I want to see, like, does the same effect happen to me? Can you take me seriously? If I was talking to you, he's already smiling. I actually think I can take you more seriously. That you are. Oh, uh, okay, no, you had a very favorable angle at the beginning there. I was waiting. I was waiting for it.

It was good for like four seconds. Oh my goodness. Hey, he was fine. He was fine. He was fine for four seconds. Why does he look stupid now? He's looking right at us. So if I look like to the side, it's fine. That's not bad.

That's not bad at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Give him a paper bag. Get him a paper bag. So you've got a big noggin. So you can kind of get away with these giant arms. Yeah. But like, I used to wear glasses like that.

They look insane on you. This whole situation. Yeah, they look crazy Okay, hold on, okay, no, no, no, you can go to your camera, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay I thought he was gonna like climb over you no, no, no, no, okay, here we go, hold on, where's the Dan cam there? See, that kind of suit me, right? Yeah, you know what? Actually, yeah, kind of. Hold on though, is it, because his head's so small, make the Dan cam bigger.

Oh, that's actually really difficult. Uh, one second. Okay, then come over here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, how is that difficult? How's that so difficult? Yeah, it's not bad.

You know what? He kind of gets away with him. I used to wear glasses that were square shaped. Like, these are a little large for me, but... Yeah. I think, well, it looked like very straight on with the camera. I think you had somewhat of the same problem I had, which I think they're a little bit too narrow for you.

Yes. But, like... Dan's haircut helps, though. His haircut kind of helps with the... Interesting. Okay. This is worse We do like

Did you like them text report Cipulas says No Dan still looks like an idiot I know but we're discussing the glasses Oh my god No I think they work for you okay on Dan I think I think he actually looks kind of smart Well unless he's trying to look stupid

I mean I'm always Yeah they look they look fine Yeah if I didn't know you and you walked in You're wearing those I did use to wear glasses Very similar to this is that picture of like every engineer Looks like that guy like me but with square glasses Yeah Drack Ryu says still looks like birth control glass

is Yeah, I mean I got LASIC, it still hasn't helped that the glasses stay with a man However, AD 89 FH 76 ASDFH says I'd hit it

There you go There you go You wouldn't hit a man with glasses You gotta decrypt their username first Okay, where's the ding? Where's the ding? Nice, solid Oh Yeah, anyway

What are we supposed to be talking about right now? I don't even Uh, oh, we need to do a sponsor thing. Oh, we have a special sponsor thing today. I'll get through the float plane first. I mean, sure, yeah, float plane announcements. We're ready to address the drama.

Finally. A while back, we had a fellow colleague make a YouTube video criticizing our work. And while some of the points were valid, uh, and we took those to heart and shift, shift fashion group. Here's our response. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, no, this is a thing Oh wait, what, did we turn the tables?

Yes Oh, that's crazy Yeah Wait, am I promoting this? I don't think I would have... This is it. Oh, shit. This is it.

I really didn't want to engage with this. You don't have to. Okay, sure. I'm really tired of YouTuber drama. I don't think it's YouTuber drama. It's manufactured YouTuber drama. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. No, like, they actually released a shirt and as far as my understanding goes, it's like really good for... Okay. It's really good. That partially means it's really expensive because a lot of the manufacturing processes

and stuff that they did are just really expensive. Okay. But for what it costs, I think people are actually quite happy with it and stuff. It's not actual... Is that the shirt there? Okay. Yeah, yeah.

I immediately felt that and was like, wow, this is actually... It feels very nice. It feels... It feels like a very expensive shirt. They've got the advanced expensive stitching and it's like... Just touch...

It's like the material isn't insane. Okay, well, here. Hold on. Let's do it in order then. This says I'm supposed to watch the first 40 seconds. So, okay, let's... Can we get audio, Dan? Let's do this.

Because I have not seen this. Okay, all right. Oh, yeah, and it's got that collar thingy. Yeah, it's like really unquality. Let's do the thing first. All right, well, we'll try. We'll plan you have one job. We are reviewing the black t-shirt from Shiff Fashion Group.

We got five of them. This freaking loser decided one day, oh, you know what? Oh, LTT, a big creator, they're making merch. Oh, I'm going to tear it down. I'm going to tear it apart. This guy thinks he can come out and tear our shit apart. This is flow plane. I can say whatever I want.

We're going to take him down today, right? Tatiana, we're going to take him down a peg. No, we are not. You want to talk about our clothes? Joe's great. Apparently he's great, but I'm still skeptical. Well, but I'm going to tell you, we're going to unbox it. And we're going to talk about it.

What did they send us? Like a million different shirts to look at? Okay, so that's the first 40 seconds. So that's exclusive on float plane. For those who are not in the no shift fashion group did a tear down on our products a year ago. And since they recently made the best black t-shirt in the world is what they're calling it, we thought we'd do our own lighthearted tear down of theirs. But if you're into other things and you want some David and Linus action,

how about some early releases? Oh, sick. Oh, sick. This is finally out. Nice. Finally out. Basically, David and N. I spent multiple multi-hour shoots upgrading our controllers.

It was freaking awesome. Oh, there's extras. We could have done it in less than 10 hours if we knew what we were doing. But I think that's kind of the whole idea is that the first time you do it, you don't know what you're doing. Yeah. There's extras. It was lots of fun. Are there extras as well?

Yep. Oh, sick. Okay. So that video is up and there's extras. And what else we got this week? And we're trying to be more transparent. So we've shown the entire month of float playing exclusives that are going to be releasing for the month of October. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah. Extras. Modding first party controllers. That comes tomorrow. Extra's Costco gaming setup. Extra secret collab. Is that a secret? Is that the collab?

You know what? Should I tease it? I think this is the zip tie tuning collab. It's your company, bro. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah. Nice.

You know what? You know what? I'm gonna go further. Oh. I'm gonna tease the crap out of this. Sammy's perfectly carefully laid plans. Just immediately blown up. Do you remember?

Do you remember? The ricer PC. Yeah. Part one. Oh! Seven years ago. You guys never did a part two? That's incredible.

That's fantastic. Alex and Andy. back in the studio. I like that a lot. Finishing. I like that so much. The ricer PC. That's fantastic.

It felt wrong to do it without him. Yeah. It would have been wrong. No, this is great. It would have been wrong. That's really good. Yeah.

So I owe them one now. So I'm going to be writing another wrong. I don't know if you know this, but Alex bought Ploof's car. Yes. The purple and silver mobile. Yeah. The paint job did not last.

So I think this is this is maybe Maybe what will happen I think I owe them a do-over Oh so so hopefully we'll we'll get that going I think with like kind of the weather being cold and the like kind of paint booth that I'm gonna be getting being a very outdoors kind This might not happen anytime soon but I definitely Slated I definitely owe them an appearance on the channel

and it's basically if Alex changes his mind and he wants to do something else I'm just a talent I'm coming in I'm just there to be I'm just there to be part of the ride but yeah

they were extremely generous with their time they came in for it's a long shoot like it's it was a whole custom build hardline water cooling so yeah both of them came in hung out for the day it's done nice it's shot cool yeah dude

I'm I'm so excited for you guys to see it it's got classic well I mean we worked together for like in almost 10 years or whatever like nine years or something like that so it's got classic Linus Alex vibes I'm excited for that I liked and then Andy comes in and Andy knows a thing or two about rising something out I'll tell you that much he he added some finishing touches that are like absolute chef kiss it's gonna be a great video great okay so we've got wise when late episode 27 some AMD upgrade extras tech roulette featuring Reese versus Luke yeah tech I don't think we can call it that but let's call it something else but anyway that um and some pumpkin carving coming up toward the end of october so sign up at lmg.gg slash flowplane if you want to uh oh wait lmggg slash fp when if you want to get in on the action there's the what now oh i don't know what he's not we're hiring if you are a creatively driven video editor with exceptional storytelling skills we want to hear from you for more details on how to apply you can

check out our jobs page at LMG.G slash careers. Oh, okay, apparently we're hiring right now. Oh, oops. Do we have anything else that we're hiring right now? I don't think we're hiring a ton right now. I don't necessarily know that for sure.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, not much right now. Oh, Colton. I think an AI could have done that better. Did you see that? No. Quality website. Ah.

It's just a, it's stylish. Is it though? Yep. Are you sure? Yep. Because it's not anywhere else. It's a feature. Yeah, it's not anywhere else.

Not a bug. It's unique. Yeah, it's really not anywhere else. It's unique. I love this. Outside of beautiful Vancouver British Columbia. We could just say Surrey.

No. Okay. No, no. That's fair. Cloverdale. Cloverdale. You know what, though? You know what, though?

I say what you want about Surrey? Cloverdale is pretty small. Yeah. Smallville? There's a lot of parts... Did I say swell or smell? I meant to say smell. There's a lot of part with that it does sometimes.

There's a lot of parts of Surrey that are great. But there's also... Yeah, I mean, that's the thing about any... Like, Surrey's almost its own, like, metropolitan area. Yes. And that's the thing about any large city, like, geographically diverse city, is, like, yeah, there's some parts that are, like, pretty nice, and there's some parts that are, like, I wouldn't walk around at night.

Really not, yeah. Yeah. You know, you know what I'm talking? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. What are we supposed to be doing right now? Oh, right. Okay.

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Okay. Okay. Both players will take turns asking yes or no questions to try to guess what is on their card. You cannot repeat the same question your opponent just asked. The game will be broken down into three rounds. The first round is to get familiar with the game. On each of your heads will be a member of the LMG team. Uh-oh.

Okay, the second round, you'll each have a service that Proton offers, and the third and final round, you will have commonly used passwords. And you'll have to try to guess which one you have. You'll each be provided a little cheat sheet to help with possible sample questions to ask in case you need help. No cheating, though. No looking at your own cards or the screen to see what's on your head.

Luke is the reigning Wandshow Takeover Champ from our previous tape-to-ta-ta-ta-tap match, so there's a lot on the line here. Can you... Wait, no, I think I got it. No, maybe not. Yeah. I got you.

I'm just going to close my eyes in case of all. Okay. The person whose YouTube channel was most recently compromised gets to guess first. Is that me? Has yours ever been compromised? Okay.

I've given you a couple cards there as well, which has some... They have some example questions. You don't have to use those. Okay, got it. So you can basically ask any question you want. Okay. Okay. Yeah, and you're asking about your own...

Okay. Yeah, okay. Here we go. Does this person have an awkward story from when I first met them? I don't think I technically actually know this one, but it's very likely that I just forgot it. But given the chances, probably. Oh, that is such a cop-out answer.

All right, okay. I don't know. Okay, go for it. Does this person work in the studio building? Primarily no. Okay. Would you just go back and forth? Yeah.

I think three times. You know what? I'm not allowed to ask the same question, but I'll ask, does this person work in the labs building? I would basically say no. You'd say no. Okay. They have, but like...

Okay, okay. Yeah. Not situated in. Okay. Your turn. This is hard. I'm not... I feel like I'm so on the spot.

This is the warm up around. I know. I don't know how the heck we do this in... You only get three, I think. Yeah. We only get three questions? How? Yeah.

That was it? I have no idea. I'm 66% of the way there? Yeah. Okay. I have no clue how to do this. Um, oh my gosh. What kind of questions can we ask?

Like, can I ask anything? Where specifically is this person's desk? What? No. Be specific. Make no mistakes. Okay. Um, upstairs in the office space.

Okay. I was hoping for more specific. I don't actually know. Specifically, specifically. Like this one? Yeah. Okay. Sure.

Okay. Okay. Um, does this person have? have strong fashion sense? I would say so, yeah. Okay. But that's coming from me. But yeah.

Nice. I think so. You wear LTT store stuff, so. Yeah. I also wear exactly the same shorts every day. Yeah. Pragmatic. Okay, so I have to guess now?

Like, I only get three, I only get three guesses. I think it's supposed to be yes, no questions. Oh. Oh. I don't think. I mean, we're screwed. Yeah. We clearly don't have play this game.

Okay. All right. I'll give you one more and then we'll move on. Okay. Well, Luke has one more anyway, because I've asked more questions than him. Sure. Can I do a not?

Yes, no? No. It has to be... What department do they work in? Um, business. Okay. Okay, so do we both have to guess now? Sure.

Okay, I'm going to say Reese. Okay. No. Okay. Shrod No Okay Okay

So Doing great Show us who you got Linus If you want to hold that Up to the camera And you can look yourself Oh I had Riley

And Luke I don't remember Your story of meeting It's so long ago Okay Man I was gonna say Colton too

I actually don't remember My story of meeting Riley But I It was awkward I do know that Yeah, of course. Because he was an unpaid intern for Esther.

And I was like, what? I don't think I even knew that. Yeah, it was super awkward. He worked at NCIX back in the day. But he like, or maybe, was he paid? I don't know. For some reason, he was somehow roped into working there for no pay, I think. And we saw.

Yeah, we're, we are absolute trash garbage. Do we have to do this again now? Oh, what the hell? Oh, no. Is mine still on? Okay. Oh, gosh. How many times we have to do this?

Three. Three times? Round two is proton services, but our cheat sheet. Okay. Has all the proton services on it. Okay. Okay. But it has to be yes, no, this time.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Do we, wait, do we... We ready?

Oh, these are like suggested questions. Yeah, I didn't read those. Yeah. I literally... I don't want to use suggested questions. That's lame. Well, they were in examples. No, I don't want to know. I don't want to see them because then I might be influenced by them.

Fine. Okay. Would I use this every day? Yes. Okay. Let's do the same thing. I was like thinking sort of that. Yeah.

Oh, we should be looking at chat, right? That doesn't matter. Would I use this multiple times a day? I did want to see the things, but I won't look at. Uh Would you use this multiple times a day? Um, yes. Cool.

That's so many of them. Okay. Okay. Um, would this replace something in our Google suite? No. Okay. That's a good question.

I would kind of want to steal it. I think that's against the... You can't ask the same question. Okay, I didn't even know that as a rule, but yeah, it would be bad, I think. Would this stop me from effectively doing my job if I couldn't use it? No. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. This is your last question. Okay. All right, right. You know what? Oh, this is actually, this is kind of a hack. Would this replace something in our Microsoft suite? Oh my God.

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No. All right. Well, you get to ask you. I knew you were wrong, but I was like, uh. Okay. Um, okay. Last question. I don't think you have a shot.

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Yeah, but just in case. Okay. This is going to be hard. Okay, why don't you go first this time? Is it related to a deity? No. Okay. Is it all numbers?

No. Okay. Is it something that is like on the screen that I just wrote in? No. Okay. Is it romantic? No. Fudge.

Is it a personal thing, like a family member or a pet? No. Yeah, you have like absolute. If you get this, I think we should just end the WAN show here. Because it will be your peak. You will never achieve greater. Do you want to take a shot now, or do you want to let me ask my question first? I mean, I guess I'll take a shot now.

I'm going to go with one, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah, no. Okay. Cool. I was hoping based on your first question. Okay. Yeah. Is it...

We suck at this game. Oh, man. I don't even... Okay. Screw it. Is it password? Did you even ask a question? Nope.

No. Okay, cool. Good chat. All right, what is it? All right, you can see them now. This is tough. Getting the one would be insane. Oh.

You were nowhere near it. You had no shot whatsoever. Yeah. They're both very reasonable ones to be in here. Yeah. Well, you tried. We just suck. Yeah.

Man, yeah. Is it like a common combination? of just like keyboard inputs, I think would have been a decent question. Well, there were examples on your sheets. We didn't read those. Didn't read. Yeah. So that travesty was brought to you by Proton Drive, CLI.

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Maybe next time we'll suck less. Probably not. Well, have fun, though. I've never played the game before. It's kind of fun. We'll have fun. Apparently it's called 20 questions. What?

No, I know 20 questions. Wait, were we supposed to have 20 questions? Someone in chat said there's a reason why the game is called 20 questions and not three questions. No, this is a different game. Oh, okay. This is, uh, this is like, no, these, like, these things are like from a game. It's called a headbands. Headbands?

The game is called headbands? Trademarkable Z instead of an S. Got it. Yeah, no, 20 questions is just like a game you play in the car as kids. You just think of something, anything. and then usually people start with, is it organic? And then, you know, is it, is it?

And you're supposed to narrow down to exactly what the thing is. It's kind of like a canator. Oh, totally. Yeah. Well, I guess I want another one. I want to see if a canator can find you. Last time I tried to make it do that, it found you. What?

Wait, can it not do actual people anymore? Whoa. It didn't give me the option for a person. Play. Oh. Oh, you can't do people anymore. Wait. Oh, did it?

No. No. I don't think so, Dan. Oh, wait. Oh. Uh, yes. Nice. Hell yeah.

Uh, no. No. No. Uh, no. Oh, is it going to think, like... Yes. Racist. Uh, yeah.

Nope. Well, yes, but no. Should. Uh, yes. Dang. Dang. You can, you could, you can put, you can, you can, you can put whatever you want. It could be jolly?

Yes. Probably not. I am right now. Oh, wow. Thinking. Having a think. It's waiting for the new ads to load. That's brutal.

Good gravy. Wow, did we stump? him? I think he's always going to guess. Hello? Maybe you did. I broke him. I feel like he used to work really well. Well, all right, I'll give him a little bit of time. Why don't we jump into another topic?

Waymo released crash data claiming that its robotaxies have avoided 841 crashes that would have caused an injury if a human had been driving under the same conditions. Their methodology for how they calculated that was looking at crash report statistics for human drivers in the areas that Waymo operates, they then multiply those crash rates by the miles that Waymo drove in each area. The gap between that number and Waymo's actual crashes is the avoided figure.

Of the 841 avoided injury crashes, Waymo says that 175 would have involved pedestrians, cyclists, or motorcyclists, and 55 would have caused serious injuries or worse. This data covers 271 million fully rivalless miles. from September 2020 through the end of June 2026. There's some more detailed stats in here. General average, Waymo reports 0.67 injury causing crashes per million miles versus a human driver benchmark of 3.77 per million miles across the cities it operates in,

and 82% fewer crashes that cause an injury, 95% fewer crashes that caused a serious injury or worse. It's worth noting these are Waymo's own numbers, and while there is some rigor in how they test, they should be treated more like marketing material than fact. Yeah. Independent analyses have previously confirmed Waymo's crash reductions, though, but have found the results less substantial than Waymo's own claims.

I'd also be interested in comparing it against, like, taxi and Uber drivers instead of all random drivers. Yes. Or people who at least drive a lot. Because that's the role that it's replacing. I'd like to compare it to Tesla, but Tesla doesn't publish this stuff. Yeah. Which is pretty frustrating to me, and it's one of the sort of transparency issues that I

with the company as a whole because I got to say my experience operating the car anecdotally because you got to remember it's anecdotal now we don't have bulk data to actually glean meaningful information from has been really good like I assume when I get in the car that I will not touch the pedals or the steering wheel until it's time to park it's kind of crazy um but it's also it's not certified for autonomous operations, so I can't just to note. Question for you. Yes. Let's put aside the like sort of the privacy side of it.

Oh boy. I know you like your, you're just like, ah, my car. My car, press the pedal, she'd go. It's so good. I get that. So let's put aside sort of the privacy concerns. Yeah. Would you, if you could, with no privacy concerns, buy a Waymo.

Like a certified level four autonomous vehicle. I've never been in one. That you just get in. And then you just tune out, read a book, watch TV. I honestly. And you teleport wherever it is you're going and you just get out. Honestly, as of right now, no. And I think it's because of my car sickness stuff.

Which is weird because when I was a kid, I didn't have it at all. I could play Game Boy in the back. I could read. I could be in whatever seating position. I think inner ear disruptions can change your susceptibility to it. Yeah, maybe. I think I'm not a doctor. One of my theories was I was predominantly only driving myself ever for many years

and might have just like lost it. Interesting. Just a random idea. You've never complained about car sickness when I drive you anywhere, though. There's also a skill gap problem. What are you saying about my driving? No, that you're good. Come on.

That you're good. Oh, yeah, but I drive pretty aggressively That's not the problem I've driven with quite a few aggressive drivers And it's not an issue Like the webly wobbling? I think it's like, yeah It's like understandable pedal control

Oh You can drive aggressively, but if it's like something That makes sense, my brain can make better sense of it We're going to be stopping soon If you're like Yeah, if you're like Uh-huh, eh And like, especially when the uh is happening, you're like actively braking.

Yeah. And then hard on the accelerator and then hard on the brake and then hard on the, like, if you're doing junk like that, I will like genuinely have to get out of the car. That's not susceptibility to motion sickness. That's just someone being utterly incompetent at operating a vehicle. But it's, yeah. Like, and here's another one. Okay, sure. Even if the person is a good driver if I'm reading text on my phone.

Have you tried? The dots? Yeah, does Android have that yet? I know Apple supports it. I think I had to get a third-party app. Did it do anything for you? It seemed like maybe a little bit, but it was like it felt like it... Okay, so there's these like anti-motion sickness dots,

which use the, I'm assuming gyroscope and other things in the phone to show movement on your screen when movement is happening. so it gives you the like sightline kind of similarity Pixel supposedly have the dots released recently okay cool but yeah I did a third party app and it's it felt like it bought me more time

but it didn't solve the problem if that makes sense got it the biggest by a massive amount problem is poor pedal control but it's still a problem what if I told you And it just all goes away if I drive myself.

What if I told you that my stupid Tesla FSD, false advertising, full self-driving, absolutely blows the doors off of like 90% of the Uber drivers I've ever had? Oh, I just can't. In terms of smoothness. I believe you. But the problem is that the Uber driver average is so far beyond acceptable. That like it would have to beat it by so much that it's like not even worth comparing to. Yvonne gets motion sick in it.

I don't. Yeah. So we're kind of in there, but she's really sensitive. I think Yvonne is more sensitive than me. Although I don't know. Almost certainly is. I know that she just gets motion sickness in general. Yes.

And I don't think mine is the same. Got it. Okay. Because I don't like, is yours just like an irrational rage? We were talking about this earlier. Is it actually not in your ear disruption at all? And is it just like building fearing?

I'm so pissed, I'm going to puke. Honestly, there's probably a little bit of that involved. But yeah, I don't know. Like, even, like, I often offer to drive places, and it's not an ego thing. Yeah. It's just because I know I'm not going to get sick. And I would just rather do that. Well, I'm flattered that you let me drive you places.

Yeah, I don't know. So for me, it's been not a particularly attractive. option because I like the idea of like, oh, I could take a nap or I could read something or I could do some work or whatever. But the reality of it is just not going to be that. So, well, you got to, you still have to come for a ride in the Model 3. I haven't, yeah. You still got to come for a ride. I haven't seriously tried that. Like, I haven't like benchmarked it by like trying to be on my phone or doing whatever. You should. And I've never sat in a Waymo. So this is, this is all uninformed. But like, that's why I haven't been that interested is because I know I have that problem.

Yeah. Oh, SMI-A-D-P-D-Padiz. Seventy-F-E-F-E-Fest but got them. Wow. Luke Slick-Lafrini Airline is Tech Tips. Mine's still broken,

so I didn't really get a chance to make it to all 74 questions. That's, man, that's kind of impressive. That's pretty impressive. Especially because I've been, honestly, very,

yeah, I know I do Wancho. People bring this up every time. It's not the same. I've been very kind of off camera for a lot of years, like a lot of years at this point. I love that the third question is YouTube. That's how huge YouTube is in like culture now. Yeah.

I'm going to, I'm going to try it. Do you want to find another topic? The fact that it specifically says slick means it's probably from very old information. Yeah, I can, I can do another one. Open AI Dev Day Roundup. Open AI's annual conference saw the company announced dots, a real-time AI agent Yeah, okay, I think there should be a period there. A real-time, a real-deal AI agent.

CEO Sam Altman says it is inspired by the cool agents we all watched in movies growing up. Okay? Dots is effectively opening eyes take on Muse, but unlike META's agent's free price tag, Dots is only coming to plans costing $100 a month or more. Opening I does plan to bring Dots to consumer plans at a later date. Is your character a captain? A captain? No.

Anyway, carry on. I can operate a water vessel. Open AI does plan to bring dots to consumer plans at a later date. A lot of the word plans. Speaking of plans, a new $500 pro tier, and it's reopening its $200 a month tier with revised usage limits. Altman also shed some light on opening eye's plans for an IPO, saying the company won't go public until it's can make better promises about model safety and gave no firm timeline for when that might happen,

though he did say waiting too long would be bad for the world. This comes after months of cybersecurity incidents involving AI sparking questions about whether or not OpenAI, meta, and the others are really in control of their creations. They are not. We know that. Technically, yes. You never do it.

Does your character a moderator website? But you are a moderator on the LTT forum. Yeah. I think I have to say yes. Based on its information, I think... Oh! That's interesting because that's newer information. Whoa!

Let's go! That's a very old picture. All right. 25 questions. 25 questions. Not bad. I might have answered the questions more accurately than whoever was trying. That's not bad.

That's not bad. Okay, anyway, sorry, I was only sort of listening. I only sort of care, to be honest with you. Yep, me too. All right. Moving on. I cared way more about whether Akinator could find you than I did about it. I was trying to get through it, but every time you'd bring it up on the screen, I was so curious.

Should we sideline topic for a second? We have a few sideline topics, or should we keep plowing through stuff? Well, you know what? Why don't we just do the sideline topics on after dark? Cool. I'll just do like a longer after dark today. Yep, sounds good. Cool.

Kind of on theme. I should put back on. Oh, you know what? I'll put my after dark hoodie back on when it's time for after dark. Sure. I was bad about minimizing things, and now I have to find something that is not crossed out. Nice. Oh, I scrolled way too far.

Skelpers beware. Sony, Japan is working to keep PlayStation 5 Pro Scalpers out by requiring buyers to have logged at least 60 hours of PS4 or PS5 playtime on a Japanese PSN account over the last two years to inquiring. qualify for a chance to buy the console. It's worth noting, even if you clear that bar, you are not guaranteed a console. If demand exceeds supply, you still go into a lottery. And this is surprise, surprise, because demand for PlayStation's and even Xbox's has skyrocketed in the lead-up to the launch of GTA-6. I have, I think, a bit of a controversial take on this one.

I thought it was interesting because you are the verified actual gamer program person. That was your idea. Yep. So I thought this was right up your alley. So when we did- When we did the verified actual gamer program, we got some GPUs at MSRP or close. And they were not at MSRP. When they were not during the great 20, 20,

crypto boom, okay? And we had people to prove that they were a verified actual gamer. So we launched the VAG program. We had people play a game that was going to be a new novel game for every one of our drops. Which was crazy. Which was crazy. Shout out Yuki.

Each one of our drops had a new game, like some kind of like a platform or thing. Should we make the games playable somewhere? Is that a thing we could even do? Do we even still have them? I'm sure Yuki does. Okay, well, we'll worry about that later. And then once you completed the game, then you would get like a code

so that you could purchase a GPU, one. And this was a way to make sure that, you know, the people getting these cards were verified actual gamers, not just people who could, you know, write a better scalping bot. and also only one per because you know sly wasn't a thing so nobody needed more than one so here's your one i see this is different because what we did had no purchase necessary yeah you did not have to already be a have in order to continue to be a have and it makes me really uncomfortable

that the only people allowed to buy a PlayStation have to have already owned a PlayStation. And like the playtime, it's like, you know, whatever, I guess. Like 60 hours, that seems like a perfectly... Of the course of two years. ...aumulent amount of time to have gamed on a PlayStation in a couple of years. But also, like, what if you happen to be, like, you know, okay, I was going to say like a 10 year old,

well then you probably shouldn't be buying a console for GTA 6. Anyway, but what if you're 18? And you're finally, this is your first GTA. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You've never played a GTA before. You might not be buying it for GTA. Your time might just be unfortunate. Sure.

What if this is your first PlayStation and you just like want to buy a PlayStation? What? You're not even allowed to be in the lottery to buy a PlayStation because you didn't own a PlayStation already? I criticize Apple extremely regular. this is very fair for gatekeeping the experience of Apple products that I bought,

that I paid for, behind my lack of ownership of more Apple products. I can't upgrade the firmware on this without owning another Apple product or going to an Apple store, which is crazy. It has a USB port.

That's crazy. And so to me, Yeah, this is great. Papa Smurf. They want to be like Ferrari. You can't buy the new Ferrari unless you own the old Ferrari. What are we even talking about? It's a game console.

Relax. But also, scalping. Do I have a better solution that can be deployed at scale? I'm not sure if I do. Because for me, I try to think like, how do you break it? For basically any system like this, I try to think how do you break it? We had those thoughts with the verified actual. Gamer program as well.

Yeah. And with all the different iterations that it went through, because originally it was like quizzes. Yeah. But the whole time, every quiz, they got a lot more complicated. And the goal, because we were, we were upping the technology. Yeah. And then the eventual goal was for it to be a real game. And then it became Linus Jump.

And then even Linus Jump, it got more complicated and changed every time. It was originally, it was very simple. And then there was, like, slippery platforms and like all this other kind of stuff. so I and there was there was things like yuki had a program that if I remember correctly to verify that you actually did it you didn't find some way to like teleport the character to the end it would play it again using all the inputs that you did oh that's right I remember that I was really because it was it was like deterministic or whatever there was no variance So if you did exactly those inputs and you won, exactly those inputs would win again.

Yeah. And so it would check your play, basically. It was actually a pretty cool system. It was pretty sick. We just couldn't find more manufacturers to engage with it because they were busy selling GPUs for more than MSRP. Yeah. But it was a really, it was cool. Nobody actually wanted to solve it.

Actually really wanted it to keep going. But like you said, it was just, there just wasn't. We couldn't find anymore. We couldn't. I remember. like basically begging you to find more GPUs because we wanted to keep doing this thing. I tried. And yeah, I know I know.

And it was tough right because like the last thing I wanted to do was like one of the things that drives me crazy is whether it's a you know, celebrity or a athlete or a company or whoever. When an entity does something a little bit good and then ultimately gets dunked on for not doing more when nobody else did anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or someone else, like, was, was, was, was, was, was, was pretty crap.

And so, you know, part of me, you know, EVGA is basically gone now. So let's use EVGA, since it's kind of irrelevant. So part of me wanted to publicly pressure, you know, EVGA participated once. So clearly they're set up. We clearly have an account. Hey, let's go. Let's do it again. But the last thing I wanted to do was dunk on one of the only, I think it's only two companies ultimately that supported, I think it was a Seuss and EVGA. The last thing I wanted to do was dunk on one of the two who supported it at all because they like didn't do it forever when I could have easily dunked on MSI or power color or I guess XFX probably still existed back then.

Any of those guys for not supporting it at all and for just completely ignoring it. Right? And finding that balance, that's tough, right? because like you you know whether it's like oh like supporting a cause or whether it's like speaking out about something or whether it's about you know doing something to affect

some kind of a change yeah like you know expecting more rur from the good guys and then trashing them when they don't meet your expectations and then looking at the bad guys and going

well whatever we expected them to be bad guys so what they get a pass it's a behavior it's a behavior that has never made sense to me and honestly feels like anecdotally, right? Just my own personal experience. It feels like it's ramping up where we trash on the entities we expected more from and we just give a pass to the ones that were like, well, whatever, they were evil anyway. And it feels like we should really be going the other way.

Yeah. But I don't know how to organize around that either. I don't have the solutions. I'm just, it's just something that makes me deeply uncomfortable. Yeah. I can't really answer any of that either. I was going to ask like what would you do in this case, but I think you effectively answered it with that whole thing. I was going to say the first thing that jumps out to me is like we've seen the like server farms of not really server farms, but the farms I guess of phones and PlayStation's and stuff. We've seen the FIFA bought farms in the past that are running a bunch of consoles. I think if people want to. abuse this, they will be able to. But it will be tedious. It will take a bunch of work.

Well, these guys don't need pros anyway. Like, they would just use base consoles for sure. They'd use whatever the cheapest console that can access the game is. They might use those accounts if they could get them to be Japanese accounts. I don't know that they are, but in order to flip the PlayStation's. Because they've played it. So that's what, yeah, that was one of my reactions to a certain degree. But then at the same time, like, okay, you were mentioning the downsides of, okay, there's this barrier.

It's like, yeah, there are social ways to handle this, though, potentially. Do you have a buddy that has a PlayStation? Yeah. Can you get some hours logged on your PSN account? Maybe you're not even the one technically playing, but can you get some hours logged on his PlayStation through your PSN account so you can get up to 60 or whatever? Like, they're kind of clunky, but there are ways around it. Like people will find a way, but it just, it kind of sucks that you have to deal with that. And it's not Sony's fault.

And I mean, yeah, I guess that kind of brings us full circle here where it's like, I don't want to actually trash too hard on Sony for this. I don't like the way they're doing it. I don't agree with in order to own our product. You should already own our product. But they're doing something. I don't know what else they really do. And it's not like I could just, this isn't like when, you know, Valve launches. a new product and they just like obviously don't have enough of it like the steam controller i would

would say would be the best example of just like willfully not having enough of them valve has enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens they could have enough steam controllers in stock they chose not to um because they were operating very conservatively or like for whatever their internal reasons are for making that decision they they chose not to have more of them whereas in this case no there is a silicon shortage there is a fab time shortage if sony wanted to double their production of PlayStation 5 pros tomorrow, they literally couldn't. I know this for a fact.

And so, you know, I don't want to, like, trash on them too hard because it's not a choice. Or they would have to, genuinely have to, increase the price. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's kind of one or the other. I don't even think, no, I don't think they could get more. Legitimately, I don't think they could get another way for tomorrow if they had a King's ransom for it.

Dude, the stuff's crazy right now. Stuff is crazy right now. Everything is, everything's booked. Everything's contractually spoken for. We talked about it a while ago, but you know that that AMD CPU, the like, we brought it back AM4? Yeah. I don't remember the exact, it's like a 5,700 extra D or something. No, it's the 5,800.

5,800 extra D? Yeah. I don't remember which one. Yeah. 10th anniversary edition. Yeah. Can you imagine buying a 10th anniversary CPU, buying a 10th anniversary CPU back in 2005? Can you imagine buying a 19th anniversary CPU back in 2005?

Can you imagine buying a 1995 CPU in 2005? See, see, it doesn't click until you actually see the year. Yeah, you had to see the year. In 2005, the Athlon X2 reigns supreme. Okay? Hold on, or was that 2006? No, I think it's 2005, because I think 2006 was Conroe. That's so brutal.

Hold on, here we go. 2005 best CPU. Here we go, here we go. Mother of all CPU charts, 2005, 2000. six updated with dual cores look at this. I was going to say that's basically got to be dual core look at this yeah okay so hold on hold on hold on who was that who was that kick I can't scroll anymore Tom's get it together um yeah energy efficiency oh man is there not an index on this are you crazy you think I'm going to click through all of this man I miss a non-tech so some ancient

hard drive is spinning up this this page that no one has viewed in 20 years. Okay, draft X-9. Okay, yes, Athlon X2, range supreme, all right? Hell yeah. In 1995, what are we talking?

Like Pentium 1? The best most advanced, according to AI, the best most advanced consumer CPU was the Intel Pentium Pro running at speeds of up to 200 megahertz. Oh.

In that 10 years. Versus a like a Core 2 duo or an Athlon X2. We went from 200 megahertz using like EDO memory, okay? To DDR operating at double data rates. Not to mention dramatically higher frequencies running at I think the top Athlon X2s could do like 2.4 gigahertz or something like that. That sounds about right. And architecturally, they were out.

fast 2.4 gigahertz. Like they were they were ripping ripin fast boys. In 10 years what have we gotten? The desire to go back. Yeah, blue waffles. Athlon X2s were fire. They were, that's still the most I've ever spent on a computer hardware component. I bought a 4,400 plus.

I will always remember this for over 7,000. Canadian dollars. Can you buy a 5090? And xenon. Actually, no. I did. I bought a 5090 back at launch and then I never installed it. And then you, when Plouf moved on. Yeah. He was like, hey, have you still not installed that 5090? And he asked if he could buy it back for the price I paid. And I was like, sure, because I never installed it. So I think that's fair that you didn't buy it. I didn't buy it. I think that's fair. Yeah. I'm I'm neutral. You like held it. I didn't even get a profit on it. Yeah. Yeah, I held on to it for them.

The not getting a profit, I think, is what makes it fair that you didn't buy. So, yeah, I'll always remember what Xenon, my sales rep at NCIX. He's like, you must be rich or something like that. I was like, no, I'm just spending all my lifeguarding money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so excited to have that thing, man. But yeah, I had a conversation recently with somebody about them wanting to get like a pretty skukum computer.

and how much how much money are they we landed on this thing oh the anniversary edition because DDR4 yep and it was like oh

so much pain because like the budget was like oh yeah we'll get something good for this and then we started buying oh I don't know anything and it was like oh never mind

gas racing says if I'm not mistaken gates haven't actually shrank in the past 10 years so from my understanding I think logic has shrunk a little bit um but it's the cash is basically at the limit um and so it it it all depends on what you're actually building some stuff has gotten more dense but some of it just like straight up

has been stagnant for a very very very long time um yeah i uh the build that i was doing with randy uh with my son before this it's like it's kind of a fun idea for a build I think Eli actually might have pitched it before he went his separate way. And it was like kind of... Sorry, just... I didn't realize there was going to be just exactly the title

that explains what I ran into. Nice. But yeah, there was... Yes, yes, it is. There was available DDR4, which is what made it. Uh-huh. Yeah.

So it's a fun little video where it's kind of like a build-along with me, like your kind of like viewer insertion persona thing. Right. And so he wears like a POV camera on his chest and one on his head. And he builds, first time start to finish. He'd never actually fully built a computer before.

He'd like done stuff. Like he helped with yours and stuff. Yeah. But this was his first time with like he had to plug in everything. He had to do everything. I was there to help. So it's like build a computer with Linus. And if you do anything hands on or were you just verbal?

I was just there. Yeah. I would like show him something and then I would undo it. Okay. Yeah. Sure. That's fair. But anyway, we started with, we were just going to build a random computer. And then, like, a week ago, one of his friends was messaging him asking him for, like, computer advice. Because I guess he just assumes the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree and he, like, knows things about computers.

And I was like, oh, this is an interesting exercise for you. Why don't you do the research and see if you can help your friend? And I'll be there as a safety to make sure that you don't say anything stupid and he doesn't waste its money. And so he's actually been doing a bunch of research. And it's funny because those two things happened completely independently. he was coming in for the shoot today. We were going to build a random computer. I was like, no, let's just change the parts list.

Let's build the computer that would be best for your friend. Cool. That's sweet, actually. Yeah, so his friend's budget, though, $550 U.S. dollars, 800 CAD. For my entire computer building career, that was pretty all right, except for basically right now. And I basically was like, you need to talk your friend into buying something secondhand. Oh yeah. Well, I don't know if their parents are going to let them.

And it's one of those things where it's like, it's hard for me to watch someone because we were able to build. Actually, decent little machine. 3,600, 16 gigs DDR4. 3060, I don't remember if we ended up with a TI. I think the TI might have been a stretch. We got like a $20 case, like garbage case. 550 watt power supply, like pretty entry level, non-modular, obviously. SATA, one terabyte

SSD, but we were in the like 800,850 CAD range. And you just cannot get that kind of value brand new. Not even close. Hear me out. I'm listening. Scrapyard, peace. We work together to find

a deal. Any deal? Please, a deal. Scrapyard motherboard. No teams. We collude. We do like, we lowball and like nag the sellers and stuff. Yeah. And it's, we We have like, yeah, one of... Manipulate them.

What of, one of, uh, little man's friends or something needs a computer. It's like, all right. Scrapyard Wars. Let's get to work twice. Let's get to work, boys. Only cheats. Your parents won't let them go deal with scary online people to buy their things from. We'll do it for them.

Okay. That'd be pretty fun. That'd be pretty fun. Um, Hey, Speaking of expensive computers, this just like caught my eye.

I made a golden Xbox controller once, so clearly I'm a bit of a gold bug. I'm into it. Custom 24-carat, this is a Tom's hardware. Custom 24-carat gold mini PC. Casual $1.7 million US dollars. That is a functional component of the computer. That is not a case.

that is a golden passive heat sink. Special order for a lover of 24-carat gold. That much gold would weigh... Hold on, hold on, I should actually... I think I know this. So $1.7 million divided by... Hold on. No, I don't think I can do this math on my own.

but this would be like this would be more than okay hold on yeah this would be about like an actual like brick like an actual brick like in the movies brick of gold

like a 400 ounce gold bar yeah hold on okay 400 ounce gold bar price here we go hold on 2.4 million CAD no USD you dumb 1.656 million US dollars. Okay, what, like one of these.

That's crazy. That is nuts. That's it. I just, I thought that was interesting, especially because it wouldn't even perform as well as copper. Silver. If you wanted to flex,

you could have saved a bunch of money. You could have done it in silver, and you would have had better thermal conductivity than copper. A lot of people don't know that. silver is actually the king not gold when it comes to thermal conductivity that's why old school water blocks I'd be surprised

if I could even find Storm G4 I'd be surprised if I can even find a picture of an old Storm G4 in silver this was like my dream water block you

yeah I don't think I'm going to be able to find it but Cathar back in the day did like extremely limited run or like made to order storm g4s silver yeah wow it just doesn't exist anymore okay not that

yeah oh that's sad that's sad our history is being lost the internet is not forever man I hate that a lot of old forums are dead I know that really sucks

this was a really cool block I really wanted one of these and I just like could not justify. It was so stupid. So it had a Peltier on it so that it could actually pull your CPU sub-zero. But only if you had like a really low-power CPU, like the timing for this product was really bad. Because CPU power was exceeding what you could pull away with a Peltier. You also needed like a separate 300-watt power supply in your case that was like,

these were super loud back then. Meanwhile hadn't figured out like decent cooling fans yet. For probably what, like a 50-watt CPU or something? Yeah. Yeah. So like, what were you out, what were you really benefiting from this? It was really silly. It was renamed the Swift Tech Storm.

Yeah, so they bought the rights to manufacture, but that was actually the Storm G5 was the one that they bought the rights for. I don't believe Cathar ever built any Storm G5 silvers. Maybe that's the problem, though. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he did do Storm G5s. I don't think so, though. I mean, look.

Wait! Oh! Whoa! Oh, I found one. is this it? Overclockers Overclockers.com Oh

2021 That's crazy That's a G5 Dug out one of my Cathar Storm G5s Wait did this say that I really need to get a job Then I wouldn't have time

To indulge in such silliness 15 year old Silver water block can hang Since bear die is what it was designed for Yeah This thing was freaking awesome Like look at this machining that back in like the early 2000s, mid 2000s,

like those are individual impingement jets. So what happened was here, here, you can see the flow. So it goes in right above the die. This is the underside. So these fire into these little cups that creates extremely high turbulence. So this goes into like the countertop side of this. and then it comes out the cups and flows gets gathered here and then goes out the outlet here this thing was the freaking bees knees back in the day so cool and um and yeah like i i i believe it was

only the cathar ones that were ever made in silver i would this has some voodoo rufus if you want to sell it i'm interested i'm an interested buyer This has some models so you can see the nozzles there. Isn't it beautiful? And then the cups on this end. Oh. Oh. What year is this from?

Storm G5 would be like 2005, 2006 maybe. Manufacturing it back then. Like we have cheap mills now. Yeah. That would have been insane. Yeah. Wow. Oh, it's so sexy.

I want to go so bad. It's always now. You could afford it back then. Can afford one now. That's true. I do have a Storm G5 still kicking around in the water cooling stuff, but it's a plebion copper, Swift Tech manufacturing. We could make one for you.

We have the technology. Machining silver is crazy with what silver's worth now. Like how much you're wasting, though. We just float into the coolant and never see it again. I guess we could remelt it. Yeah, okay, I didn't even consider that. Oh, my God. Yeah, machining silver is.

nuts, dude. No, no, no, just like, I mean, yeah, you'd reclaim it, but like, how are you going to do that effectively? You can do it, you can do it, but you'd have to basically... It's so much effort. Yeah, it's so much effort. Yeah, it's a hassle. My God. Like, you'd basically want, like, the one machine that all you ever do want it is silver so that there's no contaminants, no crap. You'd want, like, a Swiss machine or something that is just for silver and gold and heavy metal and lordy. My God. Anyway. Yeah, wet melon says, ugh. Copper water blocks, garbage.

So, passe. This is interesting. Angry Panda PC says there's special machine shops that do high-cost metal machining. Oh, interesting. So then I guess they're just well-versed in the process and the cleanliness that's required to reclaim it. And also just, like, who would even know the speeds and feeds to machine gold? Machinist Hands Book, obviously. It's malleable, right?

Like, would it gum anything up? Like, would it even be in there? I think they have everything in there. I have a small copy on my desk, actually. Handbook. Does it have, does the machinist handbook have gold in it? Machineries handbook collector's edition from Industrial Press.

Okay, clearly that's something else. The machinists. I know, that's what I searched for. Oh, you did. Machinery's handbook. Machinist handbook. The gold standard reference. Yeah, machinery's handbook.

information on wait no this keeps bringing up machinery dang it I can't remember if it's machinists or machinaries

why is this website Children's Fairyland what am I clicking on I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go there I don't care anymore I'm over it that's for those specialty shops

to figure out what else we got today so many things to be honest PS5 emulation's making big strides Sony said in March that it's scaling back PC ports of their single player games

so community emulators are seeming to take it into take that as a challenge to fix the problem themselves Nice. Sharp emu built from scratch starting in May now lists 10 games as playable and developer Kirstif else

says six of them run fully playable at 60 FPS. According to Arst Technica that does include simple 2D games like Tetris Forever but footage also shows 3D games like Astrobot and Demon Souls remake running at playable frame rates. Kaitai, an expanded version of the PS4 emulator at Kaitai, released its first public build last week, and its compatibility list already rates 134 games as having controllable gameplay, though many still have game-breaking bugs.

A third project, any PS5, takes an approach closer to Apple's game porting toolkit. It relinks the PS5's game's original X86 code, so it runs as a regular PC program. That's already turned to the PS5 version of Dead Cell, into a native PC executable as a proof of concept. On the console side, a new jailbreak called Relapse, posted to GitHub by NT Fargo, works on any PS5 running firmware 7.0 through 13.6, including the PS5 Pro.

It chains a browser exploit into a kernel exploit, giving full read and write access to the core of the console's operating system, which opens the door to homebrew apps, pirated games, and Prospero Eden, a PS5 port of the Eden Switch emulator. The early Alpha runs Cup-headed, at about 60 FPS, Mario Card 8 Deluxe at around 40, and Breath of the Wild at 8 to 10.

Relapse stops at former 13.6, and Sony has already shipped 14. Players report that the latest update for the digital version of Marvel's Wolverine needs 14, so jailbreakers have to choose between keeping the exploit and playing new games. How much of this do you feel is being rapidly accelerated by AI coding?

Oh, yeah, a ton for sure. Because this feels too fast. Yeah. Too furious. There was a, you might be able to figure out what I'm talking about. I'm not sure. There was a message Terran bumped me on about a company who reached out. That's awesome stuff we were talking about and was interested in working with us or talking to us about some of the stuff that we were working on. I checked out, I checked out their... That's pretty vague. Yeah. Am I supposed to know what you're talking about or no? You know what it is, but I was being pretty vague intentionally. Cool. And I was checking out their website and I was like, wow, this is just a... a, like they are investing a ton of money in the stuff that they're working on, clearly.

Yeah. This website is clearly a unedited raw vibe code output. Nice. It's just like, okay, sure. I guess it is what it is. Are we thinking of working with them or like, what it? Are you not able to tell me what it is? Um, you.

Top secret. Let's see. Are we about to have a business meeting? Oh Yeah Okay You know what I'll give them a little hint It could be related to Lisp

Yeah So if you haven't been keeping up on the WAND show lately Shame But also not shame That's fine We're looking at starting our own ISP And we are only really doing so Because it looks like the investment in the equipment

Upfront is actually going to save us money I wouldn't even say in the long term. Like in the short to medium term. Within a year. Yeah. And then significantly so beyond the first year. Yeah. Just rolling it ourselves compared to using a traditional ISP.

So we will just. And as like more companies join the price increase train, it is like we haven't been super actively doing the math, but it just keeps getting a little bit better. So this could be like maybe a potential, you know, partnership around or like exchange of information at the very least it's going to be an interesting chat regardless yeah i don't know if it'll go beyond there but it'll be an interesting chat regardless ben 34 says i want linus lisp premium internet i'm sorry but you'll have to wait yeah that part so that's not going to happen yeah that parts of probably no um but yeah what would be what would be

the limitation it's just that we would not have enough customers honestly a lot of the things if you read that email, a lot of the things that they laid out are limitations. And because we're not doing that, we don't have to deal with them. Because we are just our own customer. Yeah. Okay. And we don't have to deal with some of the issues that happen when you start selling outside of that.

So it's like, do you want to jump through a whole bunch of extra hoops to be able to resell the difficult work that someone else did effectively. It's like, you're going to be competing for pretty small margins. I mean, who knows? I mean, our previous ISP went and got acquired. So clearly, like, some stuff was going on.

Yeah. Some money was moving around. I don't really get it, to be honest. But there's a lot, there's a lot of businesses that I don't understand how it works. So this is not the first. And, yeah, I mean, maybe there is a bunch of money there. It might be a scale thing.

I know like it's pretty common for these types of companies to get agreements with like an entire building. And then it's like, okay, now you have 750 units that are all subscribed to you. Times 50, 100 bucks a month. Once you start capturing that, okay, maybe you're only taking 10% 20% or something. That adds up. Still adds up. And it's recurring. Add a few more buildings on top of that.

Everybody loves subscription revenue. Yep. and it's a low employee count business. Right. Yeah, it's scalable. Yeah. Hey, speaking of scalable things, should we just do the stupid VPN?

Not right now. I know that much. Okay. One thing at a time. All right. One thing at a time. I think I'm just kind of over it. I'm not saying no forever.

There are a lot of legal things that we'd have to figure out. That's true. But being over the, initial reasons why we didn't go for it, I think is honestly probably fair at this point. Yeah, I think I'm over it. But I just, let's figure out the whole Kolo thing first. Yeah, let's do that.

And then we'll, we can talk then. Wetmelons, just spin up a VPN sub-agent. Yeah, thank you for that. I'll just ask Kerm used to set it up for me. This is cool. Hey, speaking of AI, it's not that hard. KM.

counter artificial intelligence machine one is a digital camera project that aims to bring trust back to the internet the project claims that 96% of deepfakes are undetected by the human eye and a 500% increase in synthetic media since 2022 I'd believe most of that the camera generates hardware-secured

cryptographic proof that your photos or video clips are legit right from the moment of capture, a task that pushes the camera's processors to their thermal limits. Here, hold on. Can we, yeah, here it is. Look at this camera. Yeah.

It's that wild or what? Yeah. Anyway, I just thought it was cool because in order to solve that problem, they use an octa fan. The bring your own lens model is crazy. Yeah. Here you go. Camera sensor, heat sink.

NFA4X10 5 volt PWM fan customized anti-vibration mounts CPU heat sink exhaust they got the whole flow they got the cooling system for the camera right there that's all I thought it was cool it seems like it will be probably irrelevanted by Apple's whole digital signature thing

on the latest iPhones but still thought very cool you can have bring your own lenses with it you might be able to get some shots that would be difficult on an iPhone this is true enough Um

Image updates store it templates because Linus asked so. Yeah, so I talked on, I talked on Wancho a number of weeks back about how I don't like the way that image uses this like weird jumble of characters storage system for new images that you upload to it in new videos. And they were basically like, hey, so that's the default behavior. But we actually do have a feature called storage templates, which doesn't muckold with your whole file structure. And they actually,

they messaged as like a follow-up because I was like, yeah, okay, well, that should just be the default. And they were basically like, hey, just wanted to say that the change for storage template being the default in onboarding

will be rolling out in V3.3.3.0 next week. Cool. Cool. Nice. Good feedback. That's based, you know, when a concern is raised and you're just like in a matter of weeks,

well, we fixed that. And if anybody likes the old jumble of random characters system, I assume that you can still use it. Yeah. Yeah, but I would think that most people do not want a non-human readable folder structure. I expect as much, yeah. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's cool. It's very likely that is a bunch of people that just flipped that setting and never looked back and never really thought about it.

So they needed that like outside comment. Yeah. I find that it's so easy. any kind of project, like our own projects, other projects. You can laugh about, you know, the outside consultant, the expensive consultant, all you want. But sometimes it does take a third-party pair of eyes to go, hey, that's like doofist here. Hold on it's on me. Wait.

He goes free. Bastard. Okay. People will fly on me. Um European Commission calls out riot Activision, Mojang, and more over in-game currency and transactions.

I love this. Oh, dude, this is like classic based EU. I'm going to go get a snack because I know all of this and it's going to take you a while to read it, but guys, I love it. They're taking action against nine different video game companies over the way they handle in-game virtual currencies. The games, the CPC Network's coordination action

are targeting are Diablo Immortal. Makes sense. Okay, call of duty mobile. Never played it. Probably makes sense. I've never played any of these, actually. Is that true? Never played any of these on a phone.

Hunt Showdown 1896. Forge of Empires, Candy Crush Saga, Minecraft, that's the one that I've played. Mech Arena, Gardenscapes, Valorant. I've definitely played Valerrant. Clash of Clans and For Honor. For Honor. For Honor.

Really? For Honor feels like an odd one out. Does it not? Am I crazy? I haven't played that game at a long time, but it feels like an odd one out. Anyways, odd, yeah. Four of the 11 games belong to Microsoft.

The games were picked for broad reach, cross-device accessibility, and varied age ratings. This is a follow-up to the CPC network's earlier guidelines and principles on virtual currencies from March of 2025. They're moving to take action now as a result of little to know some sort of, changes being made in the industry despite their extensive efforts and meetings with industry heads. Regulators want games to show real world prices for in-game items and currency. Companies to be transparent and not hide item costs behind multiple exchanges or currencies. Ensure players don't feel pressure into buying excess game currencies to progress. Give players clear information before a purchase.

Respect a 14-day right-to-withdraw-stall-refund money. on an item, including for unused currency. That's going to burn them. Use fair and clear terms and conditions and protect vulnerable consumers, especially kids, probably in a more real way than that guy that wrote the gambling article. Are they about to make pay to win illegal? Holy crap. That'd be very good.

Ensure players don't feel pressure into buying excess game currencies to products. Progress. Holy crap. Wild. Based EU. Yeah, that's wicked. It's been really funny watching... Really wicked. Mostly bots, but seemingly some actual humans mock the like associate member thing between Canada and the EU thing.

Oh, for what? For like, why would you want to be more EU-y? This. Based. trade is good. Also that. But also this. Based.

We had like basically a trading partner. And that trading partner is gone. Now it's a trading partner. So it's time to look for others as one naturally does. No, you can't do that. It's amazing how close the whole thing is playing out to like the abusive spouse playbook. Oh yeah. It's like actually.

I would imagine legitimately triggering to people who have been through that to watch this. Because it's so close. It can see what's actually happening. It's like literally the exact playbook. Yeah. It's crazy. Like start with insults. It's isolate.

It's painful right now. Change deals. It's probably really good for us in the long term. 100%. The amount of different trade deals that Canada is making around the world right now is like, wild. And honestly, really cool. It's going to take some time to, like, you know, shift that infrastructure around,

make it so our oil is more exportable to the rest of the world, mega soror pot ash is more exportable to the rest of the world, things like that. But it's all possible. We just needed the right kick in the pants. Yeah, so it's good. So, thank you, sir. See you. Yeah, do you do next one.

Oh, this one's boring. Okay, kill it. Okay. Goodbye. Which one? New restrictions coming to old Reddit. Okay, well, here, there, that's it. Reddit is basically slowly killing old Reddit.

Yeah. Just get off Reddit, pro tip. Okay. I'm actually so much happier not using Reddit. Seriously, though. My life is better. My life is legitimately improved. The days that I check it are worse.

I wouldn't say that, because I'll still pop in to like see what surfaced because I'm I'm not using my Google News Feed as much anymore so but I don't I don't post practically at all and I don't visit any of the like tech or LTT communities at all anymore just like eh it's okay oh yeah I've been on the forum more lately though

that's cool you know what it's the vibe is still really good Vibe on the forum. Pretty solid. Yeah. Sweet. All right, so's the G. Okay, we're good. We're good.

I was very close to saying a word that would have ended the show. What? But technically I did a, I like truncated the word good right before it by saying good. So I said goodbye. I have no idea you're talking about. That's fine. Is this your hard hour moment? Like, what are we talking about it?

No, no, no. That's the trigger word to end the show. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant like end the show. No, no, no, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, no. It could have been both.

But no, it has to be, it has to be specifically just the one word. If it's, if it's, you know, if I'm combining the two, it's not the same. Technically, what you say at the end of the show is separated by an underscore in the particular way that you say it. So it's a little safer. I don't think I've ever actually heard him say anything other than a sexual orientation. Sorry, is that how he, is that how he bids fair world to people? What?

I just thought you were letting us know. I'm open to it. That would be if someone... I never heard the good. If you were and then someone like finally figures out that you are and then you were like, dude, I've told you every day. Every Friday for years.

You like actually thought that was coming out and then everybody's like, wait what? I'm just finding out now. And you're like, I've been saying it for years. How did you not know? Stabman would have been way more forthcoming. Stabman would have been so clear. I just, oh, man, communication.

Perfect. All right, can you communicate about your walking pad issue? Or wait, we said we were going to do that and after that. After, yeah. Okay, last topic then. Disappearing disc drives are pushing PS audio and name out of CD hardware. There's a lot of notes here Feel free to pause the video and read them

I'm probably going to mostly gloss over it I mostly just thought this was interesting Because it turns out that super audio CD Like disc players are still totally a thing That are being manufactured And it relied on just Like I think it was one or two companies That were still manufacturing

CD drive to provide the parts to build them, and basically they're like, yep, nope, I guess we're just not gonna make this anymore. And so brands like PS audio and Name who are building like super high-end CD players. Like Names Unity Star is a $5,700 US dollar streaming amplifier with a built-in CD player.

They're like, well, the drive inside is discontinued. So, um, I guess we just like can't make this anymore, at least not with the Super Audio CD player. It's super interesting to me how the timing of these things always seems to happen this way. Right? But CDs are becoming really popular again. Right? Well, because they're like records, but better.

They come with the box. They come with the art. You can skip the bloody track. The quality is better. Like, it's the whole reason that CDs overtook records in the first place. It's, it's a, time is a flat freaking circle. and I just don't understand how to deal with this. Discussion question,

did either of you hang on to your CD collections? I actually have almost nothing left out of my CD collections. Maybe even nothing. I may have finally just like thrown them away in our last move. Because I didn't have anything that would have been valuable anyway. I had like a bunch of like Enya CDs like Aqua pink misunderstood. Like come on. Hell yeah.

I mean it's a great album. It is. It's a banger album. but like I I don't think anyone's going to buy that from me someone would I think it's time for after dark okay to do this thing

story time oh no flock I don't want to talk about flock screw flock I'm gonna push it to next week flock is evil and they're doing they're trying to hide information boo flock okay fine we're not going to do it next week okay no there's one more funny one there's one more funny one

micro center is apparently requiring ID and assigned no export declaration. If you want to buy an RTCX, uh, 5090 specifically, I think. Yeah. Check this out. Oh my God. What's happening?

Worthless. What about touch. Oh, touchscreen. Touch screen saves me. No export. No exceptions. I am purchasing this product for my own legitimate personal or business use in the United States. This product will remain in the United States. Blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.

Crazy. This is not microcenters fault. Just want to throw that out there. But, uh, export controls be real, yo. All right, that's it. After Dark. Yay. Oh, I'm going to put on my After Dark hoodie back on. This is selling really well. People, it turns out, are into the whole After Dark vibe.

The Purple's really nice. I know it looks sick. It is really nice. Okay, so, I mean, I've got two story time topics in here. Oh, sure. Let's do it. Let's actually start with not the Walking Pad one, because this is the kind of least storytime one. But a topic that didn't end up in the WAND dock, but that's been really interesting over the last few weeks.

I was exposed to it probably in the last couple days. Um, is this developer, Kazam, LOL, uh, who's released a bunch of stuff that is just so interesting to me.

These like game mashups. Um, I'm gonna let this play for a little bit. Oh, I saw this guycraft one. Yeah. Okay. Go,

go, go. There's just, there's some really interesting stuff where they, they, they keep modding skate into other games. Um, Um, this one, I guess, is them playing in Minecraft as, as like, Modern Warfare 2, but then they can

randomly shift it into skate mode if they want. Um, was this the same guy who did the, the Dark Souls one too, where he was like Minecraft in, I think it was dark, or was Dark Souls or, um, it was some Souls like, it was some from software game. I'm not certain. I am, I am new to the, the, the chasm is crazy. Yeah, see, there he goes. Ah, I'm done shooting sheep with a spaz 12. I'm gonna skateboarding now, I guess. Over the gap. Boo! Extra points! Let's go!

I don't know. Sick. While I was just having fun looking at some of these videos, I decided to look at the GitHub, and I was mostly looking at the 2010 Rust rewrite mashup, because that's most of the videos that I've seen.

But I saw this Skycraft one and clicked on it and was just poking around. Dan and I were looking at it. And that's a crazy screenshot. Nice. But I noticed this line, and this line caught my attention. I wanted Linus to read it out. Neither game is rewritten.

Does that grab your attention the way it grabbed mine? Minecraft runs its own game logic, and Skyrim runs its world, NPCs, quests, and saves. Keep going. So SKSC is Skyrim script extender. So a Skyrim script extender plug-in, and a Minecraft fabric mod

talk to each other through shared memory. Minecraft runs hidden in the background and Skyrim draws everything. What? What? How does that make any sense? It doesn't. It's so cool. It's amazing.

We were freaking out earlier. I thought this guy was just making like silly he-he-ha-ha-ha. You can do a kick-flip in Minecraft stuff. I made a Minecraft mod. No. No, it's worse. Holy crap.

This is unbelievable. It's so cool. How's that possible? I have no idea. Who would even think to do that? That's what I said earlier. And like I did notice, so like every single one of the repos that I could find, it's got at least two contributors.

One of them is chasm. One of them is clod. So there's some AI stuff going on. But like he, somebody, I'm assuming Kasem had to think to do that in the first place. So I don't want, I don't think that should take away. It's,

that's, it's so wild. Is it like hard to get working? So cool. Wait, have you seen, have you seen the, um,

the flat to VR? What? Hold on. It works with multiplayer? The Minecraft side only, friends who also run Skycraft can join your Minecraft world over the internet playing with friends. That's crazy.

Sorry, oops, what the heck, go away Have you seen the flat to VR scene And how that's been taking off lately? Flat to VR, no, no, no, no Hold on. The injection stuff, no, I have no idea what he's talking about. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But anyways, Kazim, LOL on YouTube,

it's Kazim with three M's on the end. Oh, no, no, it closes, talk about it later is a con about it. Well, we'll talk to Luke about it. Oh, I've already heard about this. Oh, you have? Yes. This is flat to VR.

So taking flat games and going into VR in them. Okay, should we just talk about it now? Dan, hit us with the com. Yeah, sure. Titans. Anyways, check out Kazim stuff. Wildly interesting. I need to spend more time actually diving through.

I think they have videos of like of the rewrites and interesting things like that that I have not dove into yet, but just like, wow, very interesting. I had no idea that it was possible to do that type of thing. Mind-blowing. Hello, D.L. Have y'all? Have y'all seen the Titan Falls? 2 VR mod.

Wow, I guess we have now. I've been playing it and it's one of the best VR experiences I've had. Also, how do you feel about the state of new VR games? Thanks. Who cares? Let's play Titanfall 2. Yeah, none of them matter anymore. I'm definitely getting at BSB now.

There was some buddy sent me a Reddit thread that was like, this is probably what got Luke back into VR and it was a link to this. And I was like, no, but, whoa. Crazy. Now I want to play that. haven't had any time, but... Dude, mech in VR, like, freaking... Just all the wall running stuff and whatnot?

So freaking cool. I, uh, I am jazzed to try it. We're going to be doing a video. I think we're shooting either next week or the week after. No way. But, uh, it's not, I mean, and it's not just, like, shooter games. Um, so a couple, I'm going to be, uh, I basically, it's like, uh, it's like a collection of, like, my favorite games that I'm going to be playing.

in VR for the first time. I'm going to play some Expedition 33. I'm going to be playing Titan Fall 2. I'm going to be playing Oblivion remastered and I'm going to be playing Breath of the Wild. What? Yeah, it works in emulators. Basically, if you can create 3D graphics, you can position a camera, therefore you can position two cameras, therefore suddenly it's in 3D. This is how Skyrim was in VR like years before Skyrim VR came out. Dude, I am, it's so psyched. Amazing. Whoa.

I'm on Flat to VR Studios. So some of this is being done officially. So flat to VR studios is like official. Yeah, official. Whereas there's like flat to VR, I'm referring more to just the trend. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so you're adding a camera, as Dan's saying.

But that would require some ability to like modify the game. Yeah. My original understanding of it is, again, from years ago where this was like a lot less prevalent. But, yeah, I mean, your computer has to generate the 3D things and then transform it into a 2D plane. So what if it just, like, did it twice, slightly shifted? Look up UEVR. Yeah, I'm real engineed VR. There's basically ways to hook into it, and then you can just mess with things.

It's kind of neat. Huh. Some of them are absolutely sickening. like I'm sure I'm pretty VR that didn't worry me about Titanfall to be clear Half-Life 2 originally with VR mods was like I've never felt sick

Like I have that was fairly notoriously rough That was damn bad But yeah it's getting more It's getting more popular Titanfall with the wall running and stuff Like Oh you gotta try Give it a shot for sure

Is it really want to finish the Warcraft campaign Before I do anything else Play that in VR coward it just feels like just having a monitor you don't want to look down on little orcs and then like oh stop touching me

it would be great you reach out and poke them or should we yeah I guess do you want to talk about casting yeah so LTT video coming soon but basically

as part of my entering my zero F's given phase, I'm just going to do stuff that I think is interesting. And one of the things that I've been interested in since high school is casting. I took a metal art in Julie class in like grade 10 or grade 11 or something like that. I really enjoyed it and then never touched it again for 30 years. And wait, not 30, but 25. A long time. Enough years.

And so I did a workshop with some of the CW folks and with Yvonne and my son. and we picked up some gear and Sebastian from CW and I have been Sebastianing Sebastian squared hanging out and doing some casting lately and that's one of the reasons that I'm going to have to go pretty soon. Oh. Because I have to go. He went and he did the sprue tree and then I have to go now that the investment is set and I have to put it into the kiln to burn out the,

we're still pretty novice so we're printing we're 3D printing designs with a Form Labs resin printer you can get special resin that is designed with high wax content

Is that a novice thing to do? I thought that was... Well no really advanced is like you get wax and like carve things Oh God so there's levels there's levels right now we're just taking existing designs

and so you print them out with like a special like castable resin and then you can set your man, the furnaces are like really advanced now. You set just like a whole curve for, okay, go to this temperature, stay there for this long, go to this one, stay there for this long. When you're at this one, okay, come down and then hold it here.

And then when I'm ready, I'll take it out. We got a vacuum casting table as well as like a graphite crucible so that we can melt our metal. We've been making our own alloys, which is really easy. When you're doing sterling silver, you just basically need pure silver. So we bought a... Sorry, Sebastian, I'm going to call you out a little bit here. You bought a 10-ounce bar.

And so we like... So hacking it up into, like, manageable pieces is actually very tedious. But then we also just have some copper chunks left over from the shop. So we've just been mixing, I think it's 92.5% silver and then 7.5% copper. And then you just, like, mix it with, like, a graphite rod. So I got to go over there and put the... the flask, which contains the investment, like kind of the plaster, and then also your wax tree, which has all your parts that you want at the ends of all the branches, and then has like

a main like shaft down which the molten metal goes, and it gets sucked in by a vacuum. It's like, oh, so freaking cool. So this is going to be, I already like spoiled it because realistically it requires me and all the kids for many, many hours. And I was like, you know what? I think it'd be a better birthday. present for you if you just participated with us and spent time together than if we like surprised you with it and we were like absent for a week. So Yvonne's going to actually help us. We're doing a

charm bracelet for her. So I asked each of the kids to come up with something that will either make mom think of you or that makes you think of mom. So each of us did one. So she's going to have four charms for her bracelet. That's really cool. And the deadline is coming. So yeah, I got to get over there, get the investment into the kiln. And I probably got like another half hour, though. So we should be okay. But it's been, it's been a lot of fun. It's like, it's like tech.

Like the kiln is Wi-Fi because everything is Wi-Fi now. But in this case, it actually kind of makes sense because you could finish doing your investment. You mix everything up. And then you like put it in the kiln, but the timing's not right because you're not going to be back soon enough in the morning. So you could like tell it oh yeah start in like five hours or like you could send a remote command. Yeah, I'm going to come in start it.

Sure. Like okay, that's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah. And as far as I can tell, it's not collecting any information about me. You know, yeah, yeah. You're suveding metal. Yeah.

Walking pad issue. Okay. So I'm likely going back into the gym soon. I might be training with a new person at work. which will be not new to work, new to me training with them at the gym. Cool, cool. So that'll be fun.

I don't know if they want to be named or not, so I won't right now. That's exciting. Might be starting next week, but I've been on this kick of trying to get a lot of steps in. Schedule has been not fun over the last like three-ish weeks. Relatable.

My walking pad that I have has been an issue for longer than that. but I was getting a lot of outside walking in, so I didn't really care. And then the last three-ish weeks, steps have plummeted. Also, the weather's miserable now. And the weather's getting rough. Yeah. Which I don't mind so much, but it can become a problem.

Yeah. Especially when, like, maybe I was doing things on my phone or something while walking, and now it's a problem. So I got reinvigorated. I need to figure out the walking pad problem. The problem was I have a folding walking pad. I like it. It can be talked away. nicely. That's cool. Except the bottom of it is exposed because it's not the most expensive folding

walking pad. That was not a problem when I was on the like vinyl flooring. But on the carpet, it kind of sinks into the carpet a little bit. And the belt, it never grabbed it, but the belt would rub just the top of the carpet. And I would sometimes go for quite a while. And when I would get off, it would smell like a burning carpet. Nothing ever actually burned. Yeah. But after that happened one time, I was like, I'm not doing that anymore. Well, you already had your apartment flood. Do you really need the opposite? Don't need to burn it.

So my plan was to get some type of sheet material times two and then mount it to the bottom. Right. But I just, I don't know. I was walking outside a lot. So I didn't need to fix it. So whatever. So I didn't do it. This last weekend, I was like, okay, it's time to fix a walking pad.

I've got some time. I can do some home depot runs. let's do some research trying to figure out like what material I should maybe use blah blah blah blah blah and I'm looking that up and I end up trying to go with um I think it was like it was like thin metal I was going to go to metal mart and try to get some wobbly whoop-whoop sheets of metal nice and drill some holes and go in there um and I was like okay I got to see I've like kind of picked I think it was aluminum or something um I I oh people are talking about you can get chair pads that was the first thing I tried.

Maybe no? I don't know. I tried getting the chair pad things. You mentioned maybe Costco. The Costco one that I could find online was too small. Oh, really? Maybe in store they have bigger ones. Interesting.

I'm not sure. I went to Staples and bought one. You put anything on it and it just sinks right into it. So actually, I have a bit of a rant on this. What is going on? Chair pads are something that I have noticed. What have been shi-fied? I've never seen a chair back in Mark and my day.

The chair pad was fully rigid and if you were able to go through it, it would crack. Yeah. That was it. I was expecting that type of chair pad. When we moved, I wanted to just buy the chair pads that we used to have. Yeah. And we couldn't find those again. Why do they all suck now?

Yeah, maybe we need to do an LTT storage chair pad or something like that because it's... I'm assuming the shipping of it would be horrible. But yeah, maybe, I don't know. It's just frustrating. People are saying plywood Yeah I looked into plywood The problem was basically the thickness and stuff It ends up being super cumbersome

It's a little gnarly It's like yeah Why don't we all make furniture out of two by fours and plywood Because we don't want to Yeah the walking pad I have a walking pad Z1 I like it Because it like folds up nice and small And it's just like kind of all black and silver

and you can put it under a chair and it kind of vanishes and stuff like that. I didn't really want to do plywood. Anyways, continuing on, I figured out, okay, with all my things that I was trying to complain about and all the research I was really doing, thin piece of aluminum was pretty high up on the list. Cool. Let me go look at the actual walking pad and figure out my dimensions and how I can potentially mount it here and stuff like that. I go to unscrew the little feet and they just keep going, keep going, keep going. Oh.

The thing is like that long. Oh, they had adjustment. It's not advertised that way at all. Okay. But I was just like, okay, well, I'll just fully unscrew them and then turn each one of them in like a turn and a half and then just stand on it and see what happens. And it's perfect. So it ended up taking like, I'll just. Hours of research, weeks of waiting, five minutes and zero purchases, and it's totally fine.

Nice. Cool. I was like somewhat disappointed, too, because I had this whole plan. I knew where to get it. I knew the thickness I wanted. I knew the material. I had the tools. I was like ready to go.

I just needed a little bit more information before I left. I was like ready to go to the store. And they're just like, oh, never mind. I will probably get some... What a non-satisfying conclusion to this story. I know. Yeah, I'm probably going to get some spacers for it. Oh! I got a piece of it.

Yeah, you got him. He's right there on the other side of the bottle. You got him. It did a weird, crazy arc thing, but he's down. Get out of here. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm probably going to get some spacers

so they don't start just like turning on me or rip through the threads. or do something wacky. But, yeah, I don't know. That was a surprising result for me. We murdered the fly that's been buzzing around the mics. Yeah, we got two of them. Two down.

I only really noticed two the whole time. So that might be... We might be golden. That might be victory. All right, Dan, I think it's time for After Dark. Wait, we're in After Dark. I think it's time for some comms. Hit me.

Sure. For D.L. or L. Is there any game show that you would like to participate? or maybe host past or present. Oh. Game show. Deal or no deal looked like a lot of fun to host. You don't have to know anything.

You don't really have to do anything. You just like kind of charitimately like egg people on and ask if they're like really sure. I don't know. That seemed pretty chill. You have to count? You have to know the numbers? Yeah.

That's pretty easy. I think I could do a B-minus job of that. I really got in a kick during during like peak COVID times of watching Oh man, Taskmaster The British one That's such a COVID interest Oh yeah

I don't know why But that shows fantastic It's still good now So much of British TV is like weird and different I had I don't think I had ever seen any British TV Before seeing Taskmaster They're very good They just have full episodes on YouTube

Which is sick Oh that's cool That was awesome very funny. I think doing that would be very fun. As a participant? Either side. Just so fun.

Yeah. And either one of the guys, because there's like the two dudes that kind of run it. I cannot remember any of their names. Little Alex Horn. And there's the big dude. But I don't remember the big dude's name. Oh, we're both wrong.

Which would lose me points for sure. We're both wrong. You're both wrong? What are you talking about? What am I wrong about? We both picked the wrong one because the obvious answer is most extreme elimination challenge.

Yep, yep. Oh, that's actually so sick. No, Iron Chef. Oh, yeah, I used to watch that with my grandpa. I finally downloaded the whole series. It holds up. I know Alex actually runs it. Greg, right, of course, Greg.

Nope, we're actually wrong again. It's got to be this. The OG. Oh, whoa. Yes. Yes. Energy. Passion.

I love that they're, they have their colors. Hold on. We gotta. Get on with it. Come on, guys. Hold on. Wait for it.

Oh, no. Is it like a... Oh, no, it is too. Oh, that's horrible. I don't even know why I thought it was that. Oh, God. Man, I feel like show running this would be hilarious. I would be so easy.

I am so not into being on that. I think hosting it would be a blast, though. So much fun. You just watch people get hitting the balls and you. How my balls. It's the number one series. Look, do they have to, like, say a thing correctly or something?

I don't know. Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. New WAN segment. We'll do that. Taskmaster is so cool. Such an interesting game. I love that they build, like, twists and shortcuts and stuff into it.

If you're, like, super perspective. I love that they... Perceptive? There we go. I love that they will respect someone abusing a misread of the rules.

Apparently that's not an actual game show, by the way. It seems to be a comedy bit. Always loved that. Very funny, though. Hello, everyone. Question for Linus. I just got my first brand new motorbike.

That's not really a question. Suzuki GSX-8R. It's pronounced jixir. Sure. If you've got the dash, What is this? Is it another exe fiasca? Actually, I'm not sure how you pronounce it in this case.

A GSXR is pronounced jixir. I don't know what happens if you have a dash 8 in there. All right, hit me. A GSX8R. I'm loving it. When will you be getting some LTT Kevlar hoodies or apparel, such as an underrated market. Such an underrated market, IMO says.

Now I'm not pronouncing that properly. You're doing well. You're doing well. I say things properly. it corrects me. I say things improperly, it corrects me. We have no interest in that. It's, it's niche, which is one thing. It's not really like our niche, which is another thing. And then the other one is

that I just, ah man, the same reason we don't do anything that goes in anybody's mouth, I don't do anything that's supposed to protect somebody in the event of an emergency. It's just not something that I feel qualified to do. I mean, you do make some safety. gear. You protect a lot of people from their virginity. What? Through what? We don't. We don't have Virginia armor products. Great waiters.

No, you don't have to justify that. Linus. Tell me which of these things is virginity armor. That, I don't know, but you're... That one. Okay. That's pretty useful, though. Well, I don't know. It's a lot of useful things. Does this guy look like... Like clothes.

Does this clothes are useful? Does this guy look like a virgin? The guy, no. Yeah, there you go. He looks like he could use that. Yeah. No, man, I don't know. He might need it to defend himself.

I don't know. I, you know what? Don't. I'm just, I'm just, me, man. You do not have to get defensive. Technically, all clothes are defensive. Are protective. That's another thing that I mentioned.

And you specifically stock jackets, which are even more so, like, specifically designed. You make socks now. That's like the, things? The least sexy thing. Uh-huh. What? Sox are so sexy. No, you want no socks. That's crazy. Hi, DLL. Great wares. That's crazy. Blindus, two years ago, you told me, just do it in response to changing career from food to tech. I'm now, you change a lot of people's lives. Stop that. I'm now one year for our bachelor's degree in cybersecurity. Any thoughts on AI in the

security space? Man. It's one of those things. You know, you know how hammers in the hands of the good guys are really great at driving nails into wood? You know how hammers in the hands of the bad guys are really good at driving nails into people's skulls? Or just the hammer itself. Yeah, or... Stabman has a knife, not a hammer.

That's also true. Stabman uses the correct tool for the job. Yeah, it's a big, big, big challenge. Yeah, I seem to be created. AI seems to be creating enormous surfaces for cyber attacks, while also making it easier than ever to exploit said enormous surfaces. It's a pretty scary time.

All right. I will admit. Oh, my God. I did not main it as a personal attack. I am so very sorry. I will admit. Those ones are for people who have already had the children's. There's been some...

Oh, actually, okay, I'm trying to find... Okay. All right. This one. No, that's for somebody who has had grandchildren. Yeah. Yeah. You know who has mine? Oh, I want to bring back this. Oh, I love mine. I really like that. That's, I think that's my favorite. I think that's my favorite. You know who has my vest? Who? My dad. That's crazy. Who is a grandfather. That's crazy. Yeah. And it looks good on them. All right, carry on.

Hello, DLO. What are each of your guys' favorite game moment? Mine was beating my first boss on Arc Survival. Took me four years of play. But, hey, that's ADD for you. Wow. Favorite game moment. Oh, man.

A moment is tough. I think I have an answer for mine. Okay, go first then. No, I'm not a dad now. My brother's a dad now. Relax. I don't know if this is truly it, but it's definitely up there.

It's the like pre-spoiler era where this type of stuff wouldn't have been spoiled so much. The first time we were ever playing through Halo on like a multi-coop session on Xbox, I don't remember how many people you could have co-op. But there was at least two of us. I know there was more than two people in the room. We got to the last mission

when you're driving the ward hog and you have to try to get into the ship as like there's a freaking war going on around you and you're like driving through the gauntlet and the music kicks in and everything. Sick. Sick. That is such a...

I'll try to bring up the video while you work on yours. I think I got one. I was... The game I was probably sweatiest about was original Supreme Commander, vanilla Supreme Commander before they did the forged alliance expansion and I was like it wasn't a huge community

but I don't remember if I was top thousand or like top 500 but I was like very good at it for some reason that game just clicked for me in a way that regular RTS was very challenging my APM is super low even just like my my hand-eye coordination with the mouse. It's nowhere near what I would need to be to be like a high level Warcraft 3 player or

something like that. But Supreme Commander is not about that. It's about, it's about battlefield management. It's about the bigger picture. And APM doesn't hurt, but you can also pre-program a lot of the behaviors that you want as very macro-heavy. And it's more about just anticipating what your opponent's going to do because there's no such thing as a quick strike. Like the maps can be so big that you'll send your units on like a route that will take them a minute or two minutes or three minutes to traverse like with naval units. It might take them five minutes to get somewhere. So you've got to be five minutes ahead of when they're supposed to be there in terms of your thinking and you're planning. It was something that just, I don't know, it really clicked for me.

I really got into it. I would like watch replays all the time. And I'll always remember this one map. One of my favorite maps, or not this one map, this one match. One of my favorite maps had this like, this like canyon almost or like an alley down the middle. And there's a 1V1 map where you knew the starting location of your opponent. You knew your opponent's starting a location. One of the things that's really cool about Supreme Commander is that, you know on Warcraft 3,

you've got kind of various base resiliency. like mechanics for the different races, like for orcs, they can pile into their, um, their farms or whatever and they can throw spears from protected inside them. Um, for humans, the peasants can go back to the town hall and they can get meager weapons. Like, like, like, everyone's, you can call the militia. That's right. Um, so in Supreme commander, everyone had the same mechanism, which is that your commander, your starting unit was an absolute Chad and was pretty tough. could tank an awful lot of tier one units. So early base rushes were basically just feeding your opponent with mass.

That's another mechanic that I really liked about the game. It's really cool. Is the consequences of losing your units in battle. Depend on where you lost them. If you push deep into someone's base and they ultimately stop your attack, you leave not all, but a significant amount. of the mass that was used to create those units in their base for them to harvest and throw right back at you. So it has better kind of comeback mechanics than I feel that a lot of RTSs do where once someone has resource superiority, it's over.

But the fact that you can harvest resources that your opponent wastes attacking you, it's pretty cool. So anyway, one of the one of the like yolo, fuck it, I'm going to go for it. strategies that people would use is they would actually send their commander immediately towards their opponent's base. And it could be really effective because it was a really good harassment strategy because it interferes with them being able to build and you've got an equally tanky unit. Also, the commander blows up in a nuclear explosion when he dies so you can force a draw even if you don't win.

So there could be benefits. However, if they thwart the attack, if they happen to have some fixed defenses, or they have a couple supporting units and their commander and they can push you out, well, your commander is not only your tankiest attacking and, or sorry, your hardest hitting and tankiest unit at the start, he's also your best builder. He builds way faster than your standard tier one engineer, way faster. And someone might have their build order memorized with using the commander in mind. So if you attack with your commander and they have to pull their commander off in order to defend that might totally throw off their macro which is incredibly important.

Same goes for you though. So you're busy building at your base and remember the commander's slow, super slow. So the time that you spend walking there, he's building and you're not. And furthermore, if you need to beat a hasty retreat, you're way slower than every single other unit in the game.

They made the commanders much faster in Forged Alliance compared to the vanilla game. kind of liked them being slow. I liked them being slow too. I thought the game got way worse after Forge Alliance and stopped playing it. Anyway, what would happen occasionally, very, very occasionally, is both players would rush each other with the commander, because it was a risky play. So in this match, we both did it. And effectively, we stalemated, but didn't, neither of us killed each other. So we stalemated, backed off, and took each other's bases. Then, absolute crazy motherfuckers that we were, we rushed each other again.

Both of us, and we base swapped again before finally, like 10, 11 minutes into an RTS match, both of us reduced to rubble twice, started the match in our original bases. It was crazy That's actually really funny At the end of the game We were like chatting We were just like that was crazy GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I don't remember who won I think it might have been him It was really close though That's sick Because we were both at a level of the game too Where like you don't do that anymore Because everyone has their build order Memorized and everyone's good

Like you don't you don't fuck around like that But we were both just like he'll never expect me to do it again. He's going to tech. He's going to tech for sure. He'll never expect me to do it again. We both did it.

I've got like, there's one that's fairly legendary in my friend group, which is when I was growing up in high school, we'd have these lands like all the time. Like basically every weekend, there was a land at my parents' house. Yeah. It was known as the like, you know, you can't bring drugs and alcohol,

but it's something fun to do every weekend. and a lot of the guys would come pretty much every weekend, which was sick. But for birthdays, we would throw, like, crazy ones with some, like, real intention behind them. And we do these things where it would be, like, you know, an Xbox inside and an Xbox in the garage. Nice. And it's Team versus Team and stuff like that. And we had this, like, I don't remember the name of the map. If I saw it, I would instantly know it's the right one.

it was Halo 2. Pretty sure it was Halo 2. Yeah, I feel like it must have been because there was a battle rifle. Or there was the like three round burst battle rifle. That's why I think it must have been Halo 2. But there was a there was a blue like you run on it and it and you bounce up. Yeah, it's called the blue boingy thingy.

Whatever. That's a kind of name in my mind now. Yeah, yeah. And it was a very like gray map. You were all on like one structure up in the. the mountains, a pretty small map. This was not Blood Gulch. It was a small, brawly kind of map.

Someone said midship. Let's see. Hello to midship. Midship doesn't ring a bell. No, not midship. It's gray. Not purple. But anyways, we do all these like custom game modes that people would come up with.

Swords and shotguns was super common. We would also do like all rocket launchers. Like whatever. We had all these different game modes. Sors and shotguns, sometimes we do like one team gets one and one team gets the other. Oh, that's kind of fun. Like we had all these cool different game modes. Yeah.

I don't remember the exact game mode that this game was in. And I'm honestly only pretty sure that I remember what the weapon mix was. But, and this was not the only time that we ran into this occasion. But it was first to 50 teams. And it was 49-49. Oh. And there was, I'm pretty sure this might have happened twice, but there's one in particular where it was nuts because we would run these little

mini tourneys and this was the final. And we were really good at balancing games. I'm pretty sure it was swords and shoddies. And they killed each other, 49-49. And no one knew what happened. That's crazy. Both sides just erupt. Everybody's out of seats trying to figure out what happens.

We have to wait for the screen to actually show up to say which team won. Because, you know, I think it was sword and shotgun. And the shotgun goes off and they're extreme, they like came around a corner. It was point blank. The shotgun goes off and the sword swings. It's pretty easy to simultaneously kill in Halo. It's a haloism. Both people die.

The screen goes black and we had to wait. And then, yeah, it came up, you know, one of them, I guess, did it first or whatever. And everybody freaked the hell out. But that was like, that was nuts. That was one of those times. Like those lands were decently often when it was snowing out. Oh, yeah. So that was one of the moments where it's like, we're done gaming for a second.

We're going to go outside. It's cool down. Yeah. It's like, oh my God. Narrows, let's see. Narrows, Halo 2. Okay. I'm not sure.

I don't know which one. All right, hit me, Dan. Sure thing. We have a good team, but we're getting pressured by greater company culture, and our manager can't seem to push back. How do you contend with your team culture being usurped by company culture? Honestly, I feel like we've... I feel like, if anything, we've struggled the other way.

I think we've struggled to, oh, is this it? That one, the top right. Okay, cool. This one. That's a classic. I don't remember the name of it, but this one, very small map. Yeah, I feel like we, I mean, we went through, like, the classic company thing where you, like, double in size over the span of 18 months or something like that,

and figuring out our company culture took doing things that, I had always been very dismissive of in the early days. Like, what do you need a mission statement for? What do you need core values for? Everyone should just, like, know, like, obviously. But it doesn't work that way. Once you get bigger and you're not directly interacting with every person every day, then it's really hard to build something unless you explicitly state it.

As for, like, getting pressure from greater company culture and your manager not pushing back, I don't know if, like, you got to understand your manager's role, right? Like, there's the very top, there's the very bottom of the org chart, and then almost literally everyone else in between is going to have to balance the demands coming from both sides. Every middle manager's job is to take the directives that come from above and tow the company line and also take the feedback that comes from below and push back. And they're going to find the right balance. And they're going to have to find the balance, and it's going to cost them political capital every time they prioritize one over the other.

Every time they prioritize, okay, guys, we're just going to have to do what corporate says. We've got to just kind of bear down and deal with this. It's going to cost them political capital with their reports. And every time they take the feedback of their reports and they escalate that, they run that up the flagpole, it's going to cost them something politically. If it turns out that they're right, then that political capital cost may ultimately, pay back. It may pay more than what they spent. But if they get it wrong, then next time it gets tougher. Sometimes they can be devastating. Yeah, and sometimes they can lose their jobs. Yeah. And sometimes

that might be part of what they fear. And that might be part of why they're not pushing back the way you want them to. There's a all I'll take. Sometimes maybe they should. Should lose their jobs. Yeah? Okay. Really bad managers can destroy entire teams. A really bad manager can sacrifice an entire team worth of people. Like it's it's not a position that should be played with. No, that's that's super true. I actually believe that pretty strongly.

I've also had like. Carefully. There's been times, especially during big like outside events where different teams at the company are impacted to different levels. And sometimes it's actually good

to like help your team feel the suck that another team is currently feeling so that you can help them empathize with other people at the company and stuff like that. But sometimes it can be your job to be like an insulating shield and try to, okay, you know what? You guys are not in the direct blast radius of this, and this is only bad. So, you know, stepping in the way and just being like, no, let's let's preserve our like somewhat isolated state right now that can maybe actually be okay and we'll just survive and then make it through it and then they'll end up being okay and we'll keep going um so it can it can be tough but i don't know if if if the entire rest of the company is going one direction

you should help make that direction good and probably go that direction too or find somewhere else to go blue waffles says a manager's job is to manage the labor force for the company it's top down not bottom up I'm sorry you've never had a good manager. Yeah, that's unfortunate. But that is 100% not true. A manager's job is to manage. If you manage things, manage information, manage people, manage communications, manage resources, manage spaces.

Your job is to manage. Dan, hit me. Yes. Sorry, I do want to insert on that. Sorry, Dan. But yeah, no, I completely agree. If you are just not taking input from people, like, lower on the pole, holy crap, you are missing out on an incredible wealth of potential advantage that you and your company could have.

They have information that you can't get. Yeah. Because you're not doing their jobs day to day. Yeah. Like, that's the whole idea. My God. Yoakes. Sorry, okay, go Dan.

No, that's okay. Hey, Linus, how are your ADHD meds going? I haven't taken any more since. I started stimulants and strong good signs. I've just been very ADHD about actually taking the meds. Did you forget to take your highly addicted medication? 100%. Yeah, that's pretty typical.

Gooday, LLD. Linus, you said you've, you're quite hard on your socks. How long, sorry, how long do the forever socks last for you? Sadly, I've developed holes in the past two pairs I bought. Sport looked after me, don't worry. That's impressive. Is that the guy that... Yeah.

That's really impressive. Don't wear them outside. You'd be amazed at how much that accelerates sock wear. Just getting tiny fragments of like bits of sand and rock and stuff. It tears up the fibers. So watch out for that. I have not broken any forever socks yet. And I've been trialing some of mine for quite some times.

That is, that is truly impressive. Oh, wait. Isaac Figg Newton says this guy washes them daily. Ignore him. Oh. I'm sorry, you'll have to buy more socks. Just get more. 15, 30 pairs.

A couple more to go. Hey, Linus, Luke, and Dan, the Man. Question for Luke. Will you be playing World of Warcraft forever? Seems kind of like a long time, though. You seem to skip over the forever when talking about Bliscon, but you said you are a fan of classic. Yeah, the current plan is too.

I have heard that they're going with the whole horizontal scaling thing that RuneScape is doing, which sounds cool because then there's like less of a demand to be on it all the time. Sounds like a bad business model. Maybe. People should live in while. That might also be a bad business model itself in current year. I don't know. Oh, you want your gamers to actually have jobs so they can pay you money?

It's just like, I don't know, I know that was the strat for a long time, and I think it worked for a long time, but I think some of the downfall of MMOs in general has been from that strategy. People just getting tired of it. Unsustainable. I think our generation grew up and has jobs and families now, and like needs to be able to not do that. but yeah I don't know as to I think this was I think this was part of the

question but like how do I feel about it you can press it again I don't know You don't seem excited It's not That's what I'm picking up particularly what I was hoping for when the whole idea was announced

Do you have time for wow anymore anyway regardless of what it was? Not so much Okay, well then maybe that's part of it. You can play it pretty casually. Do you have more sleep? I was playing for quite a while there at like two hours a week. Okay.

Like. Okay. I guess if you already know what you're doing, so there's no like learning curve when you come back to it. Because that's a problem for me sometimes. If I play a game two hours a week, like I couldn't get into Hogwarts Legacy because I played it for a couple hours and then I put it down for a few weeks and then I played it for a couple hours. And by the time I came back to it, I'm four hours in now. And I've kind of forgotten everything that was like it was a couple of. four-hour tutorial, basically.

And so now I don't know how to do anything. But that's kind of one of the things that I liked about not this version. Oh, I see. Is that it was like kind of solved already? Oh, I see. So it was more about like... So you could just watch a familiar movie, basically. And can you do it like fast?

Yeah, okay. Was the goal. Got it. So everybody would jump on and it was like a speed run through the raid. Got it. So everybody's like, oh, hooray, we did everything we were going to do today in an hour and 45 minutes. and everybody's like, nice, and logs off at the same time and doesn't come back until the next week.

And it's like, cool. So, like, I liked that. That was sweet. Okay. There's no time to figure stuff out. Yeah. And that's probably better for the game. It's just not necessarily better for me.

Yeah. That's middle-aged gamer stuff. Yeah. Donut 7-Eleven is giving me some more context here. Apparently, there's a guy on Reddit who's complaining because he washes the same clothes from LTT store every day. That is unhinged behavior.

Also, I have never been happier that I no longer visit the Reddit. Incredible. All right, carry on. Do other brands survive when you wash them every single day? Well, no. I have no idea.

Clothes are not designed for that kind of a duty cycle. I don't have experience with this. What? Who does that? Like, okay, so I also wears them every day. I wear a shirt a week. So I own, say, 52 shirts. So they're getting washed 52 times a year.

What? You know. Sorry, what are you talking about? And he's doing one a day. So it's 365 washes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, you're aging your clothes seven years per year.

Yeah. Yeah. And also my understanding is it's like it's even more than that because, like, the fibers will relax a little bit and stuff. Like you can't, you can't be like constantly wearing it and washing it. Otherwise, every single day. End up replacing it quite a lot. There's a few things I'll re-wear.

Jeans are one of them. Yeah, I'll re-wear jeans. Actually, we wear almost all pants at this point. Except when I get sweaty. Sweeters. Sweeters are good. Yeah, everything else. Dude.

Rotate three. A sock or a pair of underwear. I mean, he is saying he's washing it every day. okay well yeah that's no no no that's what's hard on it too though yeah i'm just thinking that's also just like unhinged behavior who what do you come home you just strip down buck naked throw everything in the washing machine and then it's also like one set of clothes for a wash what does your washing dryer have like a super low load setting maybe they're just i don't know very unenvironmentally washing it frankly is it more

i've never cared about that apparently he has a small apartment sized washing machine. I don't know, man. Sink? Sorry. It's just sure. It's very strange. I need more context. I'm invested now. This is interesting. I don't want to know anymore about it. I want to study this person.

Very curious. Yeah. It is interesting. That's one of the reasons that the warranty is for like one exchange because you have to kind of price in that there's going to be people that are going to be extreme outliers. What if I wore it every day? What if I wore it and washed it every

single day. It's like, well, then, yeah, we'll replace it once. And you've basically kind of used up some other people who won't bother to get a warranty or whatever. And it all has to kind of come up and wash, pun intended. Okay, hit me, Dan. Last one. Yeah.

Hello, wend.dl. What is your experience with PCVR on Linux? I haven't even tried. On Linux, I've not done. From my understanding, it's not even like a properly supported use case for Valve on the frame, which to me tells me everything I need to know. My biggest issues on Linux are the fact that I have an Nvidia graphics card. I keep running into stuff where I'm having problems with it.

And then I look into online and it's inconsistent whether people are having problems or not. And then I am able to put together that everybody not having problems has AMD cards. And it's like, oh, okay, sick. Crystal, you know I'm not clicking that link. You'd find it easier to Rickroll me than to get me to go to that subreddit at this point. Sick. What was I even talking about? VR.

Oh, yeah. Sorry, I'm tired. Yeah, so combining the fact that I have an Nvidia card with VR sounds no. I'm just going to not. Good luck with that. I'm going to try. That's all I got. That's it.

All right. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel, same orientation. Goodbye. No, you've never done that before. I heard Dan, pump fake, but he didn't press it. Wow.

Bye! That's impressive. I'm very impressed. I told you that it was a very calculated trigger word. That was wild. I was hovering it. I heard. You got me.

Tricy man. Tricky man. I'm a professional.