The WAN Show - Amazon (AWS) Broke The Internet - WAN Show October 24, 2025

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

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What is up, everybody, and welcome to the WAN show coming to you live from behind the great firewall. We've got a fantastic show lined up for you guys today. What do we want to talk about? Oh, I don't know. How about the fact that an Amazon snafu broke the flippin' internet affecting it in ways that I don't think pretty much anyone could have seen coming. Like, seriously, major services, banks, heated beds, we're not operating correctly, and we're going to get into the impact. We're also going to be talking about, oh, I don't know. How about the CS2 skins market losing a casual 2 billion.

dollars in value because of a change that Valve made but here's the thing guys Valve can't rugpole if they never told you guys to buy this stuff we'll get into that what else we got this week. They're using jet engines to supplement power for growing

AI data centers that's cool and not a problem also actually kind of cool YouTube's likeness detection tech has officially launched what does that mean? It means good things as far as I can tell we'll talk about that later oh I can't do it I can I can't do the button I can't do the button I can't do the

I did it are you can do the things I can do the things I can do the timing oh dude much dbrand rap partner dell laptop partner secret lab chair partner wait he's not here what you're gonna you're messing with my stuff oh well you can't no you can't do that got that's illegal yours was actually right side up which was weird i did that before the show someone was messing with me already mine was upside out so i fixed mine all right why don't we jump right into our big headline topic this week. A major outage of Amazon web services rendered large parts of the internet

unusable earlier this week breaking hundreds of apps, websites, and games that rely on the service. Brace yourselves, guys, because here is a non-comprehensive list of, I don't know, pretty small web services you might have heard of that were impacted. Alexa, ring.

Okay, that all makes sense. those are Amazon services, Reddit, Snapchat, Wordle, Roblox, Amazon, okay, that one, many major banks, Ring Robin Hood, HBO Max, Venmo Epic Games, McDonald's, Fortnite, Lyft, Hulu, Disney, plus Roku, Signal, Stream, Reddit, Zoom, Pokemon, Go, PlayStation Network, AI services such as perplexity and services from AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile, along with many others around the world. As much as a third of internet sites and services rely in some way on Amazon Web Services. services, better known as AWS.

Now, Luke, can we take a moment to just kind of pause from this and talk about how bat crap crazy that is? Not because we are giving an American mega corporation so much power and putting them in a position where they are the keystone of the entire freaking online lives that we live. Well, combine it with Cloudflare, and it's like even crazier. But because Amazon is really expensive. Yeah.

How is the third of the internet using AWS? It's so expensive. As much as it's really expensive, nobody got fired for using AWS. Also, AWS is really expensive for mostly specifically the use case that we had. And it's less expensive for that now. It's still really expensive, though. So if you're doing small transaction-y kind of things on it and you're doing it efficiently, it can be kind of all right.

It's also expensive to have engineers on staff managing your own servers. Like how things are expensive is questionable. Someone said Amazon is a new IBM. It's like kind of. A lot of places just do that by default. a lot of these services as well like one part of it would work on AWS it wouldn't be like their entire thing is on AWS

um like we actually technically this stream for float plane is coming through AWS heavens no yeah so like it's but but the vast majority of our service is not literally only that portion uh because IVS their their whole like Twitch thing um is is pretty easy to use

so yeah so in a nutshell a ws does provide a legitimately good service that can be affordable and i mean honestly i still i still remember when we were first starting up float plane and even in the years preceding that what a big deal it was to be a ws certified which basically as far as you know from my conversations with you basically meant that people went to a amazon was pretty much making it so affordable and so easy to develop services with AWS that being a WS certified pretty much meant that you know you could you could color in a coloring book compared to you know the old way and uh you I remember you not really caring very much about that when people were applying um it was just so much easier to get than than many other things and like

it's there's a big gap between someone who can build things in AWS and someone who can build things in AWS efficiently and that is like incredibly important. Right. And then and then I remember you saying like this is basically Amazon's power play to have everybody certified in spending money at Amazon. Yeah. And it's going to kill like the and and there's there's certainly something to be said for standards. You know, Standards are good, but it's going to kill the just like boutique website, boutique hosting and data serving businesses and skills. It's going to kill those skills. And we're going to be left with this world where everything just runs on AWS because it was so, even then, it wasn't affordable in all cases, but in many cases it was very affordable.

and the people getting certified and the people implementing these services weren't the ones spending the money. So for the things that were expensive or once they ramped up the pricing, there'd be no incentive for the people who maintain these services to move off of AWS, especially if it's the only thing that they know. And it feels like this outage is pretty much the doomsday scenario, or at least a hint of what a doomsday scenario like you imagined might look like. Is that kind of fair to say? I mean, this is a, like, literally 10-year-old conversation at this point.

Yeah, I mean, this is pretty much exactly it. I actually thought it was going to be even more. I think, like, more recently, over the last few years, some places have been going back to their own managed stuff, which I don't know if I... It's hard to remember back then, but I think I would have expected that to not be happening. No, we did talk about that.

We both wanted it. We both didn't understand why on-prem was not to, it wasn't just not really use as much. It was like looked down upon. Oh, yeah. It was shunned. Yeah. Like, I got crapped on.

Why are you doing it the stupid old way? Archival storage. Yeah, exactly. Are you a caveman? Yeah. You know, and so I think we both. wanted on-prem to be a thing, but I don't think either of us had hope.

No, no, I don't think so at all. And I'm happy that it is kind of coming back. And I don't think this outage is like why it's coming back to be clear. No. I think it's to do with money. Rare case outage is not, yeah, is not what people are running away from.

I think it's money. I think it's control. Privacy. Exactly. Privacy, stuff like that. It's, yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, this outage was, was crazy. Yeah, one interesting loop is, if I remember correctly, when Pokemon Go first, because

that was one of the things mentioned in this list, when Pokemon Go first went live, their server struggled, and AWS, like, tweeted or something, and it was like, hey, we can, like, help you with that. Yep. So I guess they figured something out there, because I didn't actually know they had started NCIX's weekly specials during major events like boxing day which for those of you not in Canada or the UK or Australia is was kind of Canada's Black Friday until Black Friday kind of made its way into the international space like every boxing day our site would just be completely unusable like sometimes for for a very long period of time. I remember and oh yeah yeah I wasn't I wasn't saying it for you I know I know I just I found some packed like you know we've been my house has been we've been moving stuff around constantly

get out of the way of certain types of work and whatnot and I found a few boxes that had NCX barcode labels on them and I was like hell yeah we're back anyway so we we like one year like magically solved it and when I found out that our solution was to use AWS I was like losing my mind because I was sitting here going like if this is not a sign of the end times, I don't know what is. We are literally hiring like paying large amounts of money because this is during, you know, peak hours and we were using more than just, you know, hosting. I think we were using like DDoS protection services from them and stuff like that. like basically it was a whole AWS package that we were buying to to in a desperate attempt to keep our website up and I was like we are cooked because like yes obviously part of being a retailer is having the right the right stock right having the right pricing having the relationship with the customer you know the email newsletter list you know all those things that that make you a retailer but part of being an online retailer is having a modern tech deployment

that allows you to be competitive in the modern space. And, you know, at this time, you know, not only am I sitting reading about, you know, Amazon's super advanced mega warehouses and prime and whatever, right? Remember, this is relatively early days. They were just kind of moving into Canada. But now I'm sitting here going, our infrastructure, our web infrastructure,

which is our whole thing. nobody can access us without it is so bad it's so outdated so broken that we're literally hiring the competitor that is going to move in and eat our lunch to desperately keep our website alive for just a little bit longer i just it it was it was such a moment for me is it's like like what could i dude what could i what could i what could i compare that to it would be like freaking you know sam Club having to lease floor space in Costco in order to sell bulk pianos or whatever

you know like trying to I'm trying to you get what I mean though right? No for sure it's I mean it's the it's one of the weirdest things with kick for me right is it's like it would be like Lowe's buying their inventory from Home Depot like it's what is happening right now effectively their entire site from Amazon yeah it's it's so It's so interesting to me because they're the same business model, basically.

Like, it's not exactly, but it's so similar. Yeah. And then you know that Twitch is basically not making money. So it's like, what's happening? I can guarantee you IVS is making money, which is Amazon's like live streaming thing. And then I believe they're also getting other services from Amazon as well. So like, you know, they're definitely making money off of like, I have, I have speculating. And I used to have a bunch of friends at Twitch, and they all retired now because they made that Amazon stock money.

But if I had someone to talk to, I would ask them this. But at a certain point, the whole Twitch doesn't make money thing. I almost wonder if it, like, doesn't really matter because that's what they're using to keep the tech stack nice and fresh to sell to other people anyways. So like, whatever. This is our own internal test vehicle. Yeah. And every once in a while, there's a random scandal. over a hot tub nip slip or uh sure you know a little bit of you know messaging people in discord

that probably shouldn't have been done and we can just kind of blinders it on ignore this thing and yeah test our technology and if it ultimately doesn't work out then i guess whatever i i yeah because like i don't think it's a terrible hypothesis they still need a thing to hold up and go like look we can do a lot of this and really well. And them having that in their own control is like the best advertisement they could have. And then when people talk about Twitch, they still talk about Twitch as its own island. It's very rare for like the news cycle to be like, Amazon's Twitch.

Oh, yeah. Has this so-and-so scandal? They just say Twitch. So they're still pretty insulated from the scandals. And it's an incredible advertisement for a very expensive service. Like hear hear me out on this. would William Osmond have done

Sauce Plus with us if we didn't have float plane? Yeah, no. And I think, yeah, you got, the answer's obvious. Well, I don't think so. Oh, I don't think so. It would have been really weird.

I wouldn't have believed that we had the credibility to do it if we didn't have our own test vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. we got about 20% of the way through the notes on this topic,

so I'm going to keep going. Amazon's subsequent investigation into the outage determined that it impacted customer applications over three distinct periods. So starting just before midnight, Pacific Times, Sunday, Amazon Web Services began experiencing increased DynamoDB API error rates in the U.S. East

one region. DynamoDB is a serverless, fully managed, no-SQL database that powers many high-traffic Amazon properties, including Alexa, Amazon.com, and all Amazon fulfillment centers. It also serves AWS customers, and when it's functional, routinely handles more than one billion requests per hour. Yeah, the root cause was found to be a latent defect in the service's automatic DNS management. I was about to say exactly what Jordan wrote. in the nose. It's always DNS. Like I can, I can practically picture Seinfeld being like,

like Newman, DNS, you know, my arch rival DNS issues. Sometimes it can even be intentional DNS issues. I, okay, we're going on another side track here, going on the side quest. So I have this issue when I fly where I don't, I like to use multiple devices. on the internet. You know, sometimes I have my laptop up and I want to play a game with my controller and my bigger screen and I just, I need to be able to validate that Steam's online because I forgot to launch it before I took off. Whatever. That doesn't matter. The point is I might also want to have my phone texting on WhatsApp with my wife at the same time. But what I don't like to do is pay for two separate internet connections on the same flight. It's like, bro, you already got my

$18 or whatever for like four hours of internet that is that is not something I'm going to do two times doesn't matter how much I could afford it it doesn't matter if I was literally a billionaire I would not pay for internet twice on one flight I simply won't it's the principle of the thing so Windows actually has and I don't know when they when they added this or at least when it got so convenient. But Windows has a feature to use your laptop as a mobile hotspot. And what's really cool about it is my understanding is there is a way to do this on Android as well, because I've talked about this before and someone pointed out you can do it on Android as well. But I certainly haven't found a very convenient way to do it, where you can share a Wi-Fi connection over Wi-Fi.

So on Windows, you can have your Wi-Fi internet connection shared over Wi-Fi. Like, Internet connection sharing has been a thing like Five-Ever. If you had a wired connection, you could share it over Wi-Fi, or if you had a wireless connection, you could share it over. I think you could do, like, Bluetooth and even, like, infrared back in the day. There's, there's all kinds of stuff. But anyway, the point is, I've been using this for years. So I would, like, plug my laptop, when I didn't even want to use my laptop at all,

because I would buy Internet. for my laptop, I would like turn off sleep when closing the lid, plug it into the power outlet by my seat, and just like put it on the floor and then keep using the internet off of my laptop hotspot, then pull it up when I want to use my laptop. So I could use it to have a whole hotspot for me and my homies on the plane. It's been great. But over the last, I don't know, and it depends on the airline. Some of them caught onto it pretty quick, and some of them seem to have caught onto it a little slower. Over the last couple of years, maybe,

they have started to wise up. And they've been doing something, something to make it so that the, and I'm going to get the terminology wrong here, because I only had to look this up because I was trying to solve this problem on a stupid flight. But basically, you know the little internet status indicator in the system tray on Windows? Okay. Yeah.

Like the little, the little, you know, globe or the little, the little, like, Wi-Fi thing. Okay. They were doing something to make that status indicator not detect that you have an internet connection. And when they do that, a whole bunch of stuff doesn't work. So WhatsApp, like the Windows, WhatsApp client doesn't work. Windows update obviously doesn't work I can totally understand why they wouldn't want anybody performing Windows updates on a plane

and maybe that was a big part of their motivation for implementing this but any service that requires that requires your computer to know that it is online doesn't work. A web browser works you can be online all you want but if the computer doesn't know it

there's certain services that won't work and mobile hotspot is one of them So I spent probably, and this is really dumb, but one of the, a previous flight that I was on, I spent probably an hour of my like three hour flight pass just trying to overcome this obstacle because it just had become kind of an interesting challenge. Sure. And I didn't manage to do it because my Google Fu simply wasn't strong enough. But on this last flight, I managed to do it with a little bit of help from some old. friends, David Pancratz, who hasn't appeared on camera too much. He was in the, um, the Forte, uh, VR headset video recently, but, uh, yeah, he's super cool

guy, very technical. Scrapard Wars, if you want to see a bunch of him. Oh, yeah, right. Obviously, he was, uh, he was on my team in Scrapyard Wars. Anyway, David's super cool. And, uh, he pinged me, he sent me in the right direction. He's like, can you get here by any chance? www.MSF-T-N-C-S-I dot com slash ncSI.T-T-X-T.

So I had already found this weird GitHub that I had linked in my Reddit post asking people to kind of help me with this, that claimed to bypass this issue by setting up like a local server, essentially, that runs on your own machine and tricks windows into pinging that to check for connectivity. So it'll just always think it's connected because you can always be connected to yourself. But David sort of linked me up with the terminology. And as soon as I tried to go to that URL, it redirected to the airline's captive portal sign-in page. And I was like, ah, DNS. So basically, they're doing some funky stuff with DNS that makes it so that you can't access the,

the NC NCSI network connection whatever whatever the whatever the service is called and long story short I finally managed to fix it and if you guys ever run into this what you have to do is you have to switch over to passive mode so normally the default for Windows is to actively ping that specific URL. And I don't, I'm sure there's a really good technical reason why you would want to ping a specific URL in order to determine if your internet is on versus just more broadly sort of recognizing that the internet is on by just, you know, seeing if there's internet traffic coming in. Like I remember back in the day, like you probably remember this too, Luke, you'd run into situations all the time where the indicator looks great right it's like you're connected to the

internet but you just totally wouldn't have an internet connection yeah yeah but i but i was reminded but i but i was reminded of this topic because i was thinking like dude what would happen if that service went down if microsoft ncSI went down like oh oh and everyone's computers just were connected to the internet but didn't know they were connected to the internet dude that would be that would be wild okay so hold on i found my post on reddit where i explained the fix um so yeah you need to disable active probing which and it's always a registry hack is just a single registry value that you switch off for active probing and it switches on passive probing which does exactly what I would have intuited is the better way to do this,

where it just kind of monitors for internet traffic once in a while. And if it detects it, it goes, yep, you're connected to the internet. And then turns on the little icon that says you're connected to the internet and allows you to use whatever services you want. So that was a really, it's very early and I'm in another time zone and my brain's not really functioning correctly, meandering way of telling the story of I can now use my mobile hotspot on the plane. And also, if that service for Microsoft ever goes down, I'm good.

Yeah. Yeah. You can hit it with a cool story, bro. I think I deserve it. It's a little bit of a cool story, bro. That is interesting, though. Like, it is, it is, this is like one of the twigs at the bottom of the pile of things that's keeping the internet alive right now. And we saw one of the twigs break for a small.

period of time and the impact of that there are other ones i mentioned cloud flare earlier this sounds like kind of in a different vein but one of them um but it's it's just it's interesting how fragile this thing that like an enormous percentage of a lot of people's lives uh relies on it's it's pretty wild yeah um people uh have some comments on the whole probing thing. Panda says they're doing something similar with cruise lines too. Yep, that totally makes sense.

Addo says some apps don't use the Windows API and do their own check, but many do use the Microsoft method. Yep. So a lot of things work. A lot of things flippin don't. Oh man, Steam had a bug for a little while. I think they fixed it maybe about a month ago for me,

but it was driving me absolutely crazy. where Steam wouldn't know that it was connected to the internet unless I was in desktop mode like it wouldn't know in big picture so I went a span of like at least a month without not being in big picture on my on my ally and so I didn't get an update to a new version of the tape to tape like pre beta like the the feedback build that I was on and so I kept giving them feedback that was like based on an old build and I had no idea because my Steam just like wasn't connected to the internet for over a month and what the heck I didn't know there were any updates to the game and then the second I flipped out into desktop mode it updated and I was like oh crap this it's on sorry guys this is embarrassing but I've been running an ancient build while I've been like sending all of these these feedback that would have turned me nuts dude

dude I know I know I I felt so bad I felt so bad but I just I didn't know I had no idea I can't reproduce this problem And then I looked it up And it was a thing Like people People just They're like oh yeah

The fixes just to switch to desktop mode I'm like that that is That is so dumb Why would being in big picture mode Make it so that Steam doesn't know That it's connected to the internet That is weird That's wild

Yeah I don't know Yeah If anyone has any insight Into why that would have been That wow would love to would love to hear about it I just immediately jumped to like

was that the easiest way for them to just make it so that you don't download in the background it shouldn't be they have other ways to handle that value you mean yeah there's no way

oh off brand law says I work with an engineer who worked on big picture I'll get back to you next week cool okay yeah like i would i would love i'd love to know why it seems i'd love to know why but i like seriously i looked it up this was not just me this was a thing sorry i shall continue and we shall actually get through this topic at some point the nine or db issue also impacted ec2 amazon's on-demand computing service resulting in increased API errors increased latency and failure to launch new instances in the U.S. East One region.

The problems with EC2 impacted the network load balancer and all services that use network load balancer due to failing node health checks. All these issues, of course, caused problems for other dependent Amazon services with operations only returning to fully normal by about 4 a.m. Tuesday. Tuesday. If you enjoy massive walls of tiny text, you can check out Amazon's post-event summary. Again, if you want to throw that in the chat, that'd be kind of cool. CNN business reported

that the financial impact of this outage could be in the hundreds of billions Okay, that Yeah I don't know about that That seems like it might just be one of those Like an AI could Gain sentience and take over the world

Like yeah, maybe But also like we're never going to be able to measure this You know, it could have been more than $100 million Yeah It could have been It could have been some of the less serious impacts owners of eight sleep smart beds were unable to change position or temperature of their beds which is ridiculous and something that luke and i have talked about on the wancho before there is

no reason whatsoever that two devices on the same wi-fi should have to relay through a cloud server to talk to each other when they are both just devices devices you flipping own. The only possible reason is an excess of control from the company that you bought it from. Don't forget about an excess of data collection, Luke. You've forgotten the other possible reason. Yeah, true. Maybe both.

I think in this case it's both. Anyway, in response, 8Sleep has added an outage mode to their beds, which should just be the default operating mode. But whatever, I guess this is progress. some Slack users found themselves unable to leave audio conversations that's potentially really awkward but also pretty funny I had that problem it was actually totally fine because everyone else was able to leave but yeah so you just uh does slack does slack give you that forever alone message like discord does hey it appears you're in this voice chat by yourself um that's pretty sad also we're

going to turn off our servers now. We're going to disconnect. No, but it plays, it plays like lobby music. And it's like actually pretty great lobby music. So it was pretty chill, to be honest. Cool, cool. Premier League's soccer officials were forced to manually confirm offside calls when their AWS-based semi-automited offside technology was unavailable.

Oh, that's funny. Starbucks users were forced to talk to a human to order. their drinks. That's probably the worst outage out of all them. And Wordle and Duolingo lost their minds about broken streaks. It looks like the streaks were maintained by the respective devs, though.

Or it looks, yeah. So, yeah. Cool. Oh, the discussion question is the first thing I said, basically. Yeah, so we can move on. Sure. Yes, we are dependent on

a small handful of services, and yes, it's a terrible, terrible terrible thing and and to to give the discussion questions some some credit the the a ws plus cloud flare combo is a particularly devastating uh you know two support beams to just shop right at the knees if you wanted to hurt the internet all right you want to pick uh next topic for us i can't see games messages so i don't know what we're supposed to be doing you let's talk about this one because it's just, it's interesting to me. The Counter Strike 2 market cap for skins

dropped by almost $2 billion. Billion. Oh my God. Counterstrike pushed an update this week that affected the way certain items can now be combined to create rarer ones, often much harder to achieve through the game's loot box mechanics.

If I remember correctly, this combining of things to get a new one was a mechanic back in TF2 at a certain point I could be wrong you're forgetting the full history here okay you're forgetting the full history here okay okay

this combining mechanic okay was first implemented by carnies at carnivals you walk up you see the shiny big bear you play the game you get a tiny plastic trinket

you're totally right you trade up plastic to be clear I actually do think that overall, in the long run, this is probably a healthier thing for making CS2 gambling on skins less of a thing, maybe, hopefully, possibly. Hopefully. But it still has its roots in grift games. Okay, I've got a theory. I've got a theory here.

This hurts the market, but the market is. A lot of it is gray market, right? People are trading off platform, trading cash off platform, and then trading the items in game. That's a lot of the movement. This, in my opinion, will not reduce the amount of activity that Valve sees. Oh, if anything, I think it's going to increase it. Exactly. I suspect this will increase valves like touch points because you might be more incentivized

to buy a loopbox if you're like, I can. just trade up. I'm not losing any value because I can just trade up and get something better later. But the unobtainium of things might have actually scared people off a little bit. Very interesting, very interesting. Also, more lower value items, I think increases the chance that people are going to trade through the Valve marketplace instead of these off platform marketplaces. So yeah, if anything, I think this is Valve just being like, we're going to change the playing field a little bit. make a lot more money. One knife was sold for about $14,000 just before this update, and it is now valued at about half of that. The person who sold that is stoked. While some of the more common

items known as Reds, which are used to create these rare items, saw an increase in as much as 10 times of the market value. That makes sense. This brought the estimated $6 billion market. what down to just under 4.3 billion? So O Nameless in floatplain chat says China uses it as kind of a pseudo financial market investment vehicle because of government limitations on what they can invest in. And they're all running away at the moment because Valve disrupted it. And that's why it's crashing way harder than it should. which I thought is an interesting perspective

I don't know much about CS2 skins in China but it kind of makes sense yeah some people got lucky one Reddit user apparently had their worthless inventory skyrocket to about 4.4 million US dollars

yeah And the real winners are Valve. Since they get a 5% Steam transaction fee and a 10% counterstrike 2 fee, which basically means Valve gets a 15% cut on any panic buying and selling. Except for me's done off platform. But yeah, still crazy. Do you think this counts as market manipulation? No.

Seeing as how at any moment Valve or other game companies can profit off. from these changes yeah which is why you probably shouldn't use it as a store of value yeah these i mean that's the whole that's the whole thing that's it's not market manipulation if it's not a market it's not supposed to be a market people like if like this is like saying this is like calling the lego company a market manipulator if they decide to reprint a bunch of mini figures like that's totally within their rights to do you can't that that's the reason why actual financial markets are regulated or are supposed to be regulated properly because it prevents this kind of thing but like yeah low inverse says ah yes magic the gathering exactly like you can't rely on a corporation

whose interests are completely opposed to your own to behave as some sort of, like, weird, benevolent protector of your little sort of pseudo-financial market. Like, that's not how they work. What are you smoking if the... Trust me, bro guy. I mean, even if we were to go back to the backpack warranty thing, it was a completely separate argument. My argument was that it would be devastating for my brand if I didn't take care of things.

Which... It is in my best interest to take care of things. Our interests are aligned. While true wasn't a great argument, but... No, but it's a very true one. Look what happened. Sure. Sure. the negative result of me pointing out like literally proved my point luke that's really funny uh euro blue

said euro blue tagged me and said what are you smoking if the market shrinks in value uh valve also makes less money they made it to make knives more accessible if if transactions ramp like crazy because people think knives are more accessible valve will make a bunch of money a lot of these extremely high value transactions were happening off platform, meaning Valve was not getting a cut from it. They want more smaller stuff to happen because there's a higher chance that happens on platform, and then they do get a cut from it. Also, everything I'm saying is speculation. But I think that's what's going on. I have a pretty strong assumption. That's what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hobbs is saying that Valve gets 100% on key purchases to open crates.

you're more willing to open a crate now because you can see value in it because you can just roll upwards, then they're getting money from the key. And as you, if you trade skins on platform, they're getting money from that as well. They want to sell keys and they want transactions between players to stay on platform as much as possible because then they're pulling 15%. They win when you try to throw your ball in Jennifer Love Hewitt's mouth. They win again. if you do happen to, you know, win a few little, you know, crappy plastic keychains. They win again if you trade those crappy plastic keychains up for Terrence and Philip dolls. They win again.

If you sell your Terrence and Philip doll, like it's shenanigans, man. It's pure shenanigans. Yeah. A couple people got the reference. Maybe, but I never had a knife. And now I have one. I'm happy. Thanks, Valve. Cool, dude. That's totally fine. All right. Can I just suggest, can I just suggest that if you really want a knife, okay? If you want a knife that badly, okay, you can just head

over to Kickstarter. Okay, I'm going to post this link in the chat for you. Okay, you can head over to Kickstarter where the hacksmith is selling his incredible 21-1 titanium, tool okay um you can you can get it for hold on okay what's what's the lowest pledge that you buy it yet available uh hold on hold on hold on hold on well no i don't think they're i don't think they're i don't think they're shipping yet uh the point is i don't think you do any of these oh man man is he's is it because i'm not taking orders is it because i'm not signed in or is it over whatever the point is find something way to give a real person real actual money for a real actual knife okay there that's it i thought

you're going to troll me with the with the uh the hammer then start saving up because it's an expensive knife you can save up and then when it's available you can buy it don't buy it don't buy a digital knife because this is what happens someday CS2 might not exist someday you know gave men or the stewards of Valve that he apparently has like kind of worked out so that valve will still be chill as he passes or whatever apparently apparently huh um but someday this might not be the way that it is right now and this is not this is not a good sustainable forever thing okay cool good chat not financial advice Yeah, some people have made incredible amounts of money, like a wild amounts of money on CS skins.

I find anytime it's like tangential stuff like this, I know people that have made multiple generational fortunes on coins. I know not directly, but I know of people who have made similar amounts of money on CS skins. I saw somebody post, like, if you invested, I don't know, like $1,000 in C.S. skins when they first started being a thing compared to now, you would have, like, absolutely destroyed the stock market, which is hilarious. Like, I don't know. But if you're going to do those things, you need to know what you're doing. You need to be paying a lot of attention. You need to live it and breathe it. And even if you're paying attention.

You might still get ripped. Yep. It's actually more likely that you'll still get ripped. But some people will make it. I don't know. It is what it is. The world is crazy. I ain't judging, but be ready.

It's gambling. It's gambling. Yeah. It do be gambling. All right. Luke, you're sort of in charge because I don't have the schedule. Okay. We have 10 minutes to do another topic.

We can do a short one. Want to do this. Jet engines used to supplement power for growing AI data centers. While some U.S. data center operators have been having troubles getting increased grid power allotted, they've turned to

arrow derivative gas turbines. Effectively retired commercial aircraft engines bolted into trailers for supplemental power. There are facilities... Can we pause? Can we pause for a second? I saw this headline.

What a name. I saw this that is the most ridiculous euphemism that I think I have ever heard aeros derivative gas turbines they're not arrow derivative you insincere

pieces they are literally they are literally based on the GE CF6 ADC2 and LM6000 literally the turbines

used on Boeing 767's and Airbus 310s these are are their jet engines from actual jets what are what are what timeline are we on now i have completely lost all ability to follow what is going on in the world how does this make any sense okay luke my favorite part is that this might mean that when when probably a ton of boom the audience asked their version of chat gpt if there was a sea horse emoji that was powered by jet engines it literally went burr luke yeah yeah exactly it's just at a certain point

you just have to laugh man like some of the some of the stuff like you're looking at meta and open ai and all these companies releasing these like slop scrolling apps and those are powered by And she's like, whoa, what are we doing? What's wrong with us, man? It's like everyone's mad at my girl, Taylor Swift, for flying around in her private plane. But everybody's basically flying jets all the time. At least she's bringing music to the people. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, your chat GPT thing just output wrong seahorse emojis. At least she's like doing. a task and then flying home and then doing a task and then flying home. But anyways, those turbine cores that Linus mentioned, can deliver up to 48 megawatts of power apiece. Okay. We need to make PK7's comment and float plane chat a thing. I need the official new mascot.

I'm sorry, Luke. Your buggies are out. The Wancho has a new bird mascot. The ability to can. We're going to make a bird We're going to make a bird And sometimes So the bird's going to be like our

It's going to be our canary Okay And whenever something just Too ridiculous happens Our bird goes away And I've lost my ability to can I just can't anymore I like it

I'm serious right now I want this to be a thing I want the ability to can I think it's pretty safe We need an emoji for that then Because then people can spam it in chat All right we're going to need it we're going to need it yeah um i was okay were you surprised at how much

power a jet turbine yeah actually it's like i yeah i thought a lot of it would be wasted yeah but i thought i thought by just strapping it to a trailer um that there would be a just a wild amount of waste and i'm sure there still is but 48 megawatts is a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah really got to bolt that thing down. I'm going to go back to this, but you see the supports? Oh, okay. Hold on. I haven't actually looked at the pictures yet. I need to see the pictures. It's pretty nuts.

Okay, hit me with this. Hit me with this. Oh, my God. I don't know if he's reacting to that. Oh, okay, yeah. Luke, a real actual engineer was given the task, okay, to build a rig

that prevents a jet engine from doing the one literal thing that it's supposed to do move yeah yeah yeah yeah

also that I can generate what you're doing with your life also that I can generate an AI video of S van pouring milk into a cargo shorts pocket that's

that's what's going on that's this is important this is good I'm happy we did this there's that whole thing about how like civilization basically progresses by its ability to harness more and more power um maybe we needed this dyson sphere baby yeah maybe this is maybe this is one continual step towards a dyson sphere fantastic i just man do you know how much it costs

like to run one of these engines let's see lm 6,000 um like i can i can tell you right now one of those planes would cost potentially you know 20 grand an hour in the air i don't know how much of that is the engines and how much of that is other stuff but like easily the fuel cost of an lm 6 000 is 2905 u.s dollars per hour or at least that's what the a i summary overview powered by the jet engine told me i thought i thought it would make sense if if i if I use the jet engine powered output to say what the jet engine took in regards to fuel. Normally I would skip over that section. The Not So Bright says, imagine the cost of fuel.

How is this cost effective compared to diesel engines? Yeah, like, why are we using jet fuel? Is jet fuel not more expensive than actually, I mean, diesel's gotten expensive. Like, it was in my lifetime that diesel was cheaper because it's like lower grade or whatever. steel beams to attach it to the trailer and jet fuel can't melt steel beams so they so they thought it would be structurally sound do i dig a 9-11 joke they thought no i'm gonna do it they thought it would hold together a second ding has hit the joke I'm done I'm out the land show is going too far I can no longer be party to this

I'm sorry I can't I can't help myself Oh man Okay Oh my god you guys Consumption no okay Anyway apparently jet A is basically kerosene Says someone in chat

And it doesn't look that expensive According to the AI overview The average price Is about $5.63 a gallon What's what's diesel how much is diesel i haven't bought diesel in forever okay way cheaper but then i have no idea what the energy density of of diesel and jet a are and i have no idea what the efficiency of it i would think a diesel a diesel engine would be the most efficient right but maybe there's a long lead time on

large diesel generators i think there is like like data center scale ones i think there is Ybalrid says jet fuel is not taxed the same and is surprisingly cheap for what it is. Yeah, see, that's the whole thing. Like I alluded to earlier, in my lifetime, diesel has gone from being like kind of a cheap byproduct fuel of the gasoline that drives the petroleum industry to being the more to being having the price driven up by demand from like cargo ships and industrial. vehicles to the point where even though the diesel is like the lower grade like crappier product it's it's the it's the more expensive is is race fuel more expensive than jet fuel i don't know i don't even know what race fuel is wait super people in china telling me that jet a is diesel you got to be kidding me yeah race fuel is apparently significantly more expensive than

jet fuel that's that's well race fuel is super pure or something, right? I'm not a fuel expert, guys, at all. I just find it kind of interesting that race fuel is lead. Oh, wow. Yeah, no, it's just super, super high octane. Oh, interesting. Casper Explorer says diesel is not crappy.

And DanLydeFle says it contains more energy than gasoline. I've thought that about diesel, to be honest. I thought it contained more energy than gasoline. Diesel needs to be compressed, not ignited. And jet A needs something volatile because it's got the burnery things that ignite it. But I would expect the power out of it. Here we go. We're only using AI for the rest of this topic. We have to turn the jet engines.

We have to power the jet engines. Jet fuel and diesel are both kerosene-based distillates, but differ in additives, sulfur content, and performance characteristics. Jet fuel has less lubricity and higher sulfur content, making it unsuitable for modern diesel engines. which require lubricity additives and have low sulfur requirements. Conversely, diesel fuel is oilier, has a higher freezing point than some jet fuels, and is not ideal for jet engines. Okay.

Nice. Good to... We should find ways to work them harder. We should just keep AI searching things the whole show. Oh, my God. I love this so much. Oh, my God. I'm posting this in chat.

Dan, if you want to switch this over. In the meantime, Bryce 2113 says, My brother works for one of leading providers of data center and hospital generators. They're diesel, and they take at least a year to get. The major players get priority, and they're shipped to them by the dozens, but human labor can only go so fast, and there's limited skilled talent these days. Also keep in mind, they're usually sold as entire enclosures. Transit is difficult, too, since they're massive.

Yeah, we saw these. When we did the tour at Equinix, they had their whole diesel generator room, and they're just huge. And yes, a jet engine is huge, but these diesel generators are absolutely enormous. So it makes sense that if you're just desperate for power right now and you're in this AI development arms race that is just a money printing and money burning machine at the same time, a circular money jerk of sorts, then it makes sense that you would just be looking for whatever is the fastest way to get more power and what could be faster than a jet engine.

Yeah. Dan, do you want to throw that on screen? Building 7's fall rate. Explain CW announced and explain two merch messages. Oh, no, I want to see the thing first I'm just saying that's what's next You don't have to do it this second Oh, I see, I see, I see

I think we were supposed to buy them time though Weren't we, Dan? Have you heard from them? What, no, what, what? You wanted something in chat? I can't hear Dan. Yeah, yeah, I posted a link in chat Oh, you wanted me to show that? Yeah, it's hilarious.

Aviation thing? Yeah. Oh, okay, I just shared it in the other chat. That's my bad. One moment. Yeah. Yeah, throw it up. It's funny.

It's hilarious. I don't even know if I can do whipy. I can share it. I got it. I don't know. Can you? Thank you. I'm done.

There it is. Very funny. This is awesome. Getting it done. You'll love to see it. Oh. Oh. That's pretty sick.

I'm sure it's right, but it looks so wrong. Oh, yeah, yeah. Raden 428 in chat says, hey, Linus, maybe go visit marineturbo.com. Luke, do you want to fire that up? Sure, honor. For a special, super interesting something. As a biker, you might like their 273 mile per hour helicopter turbine powered bike. There's a whole industry around timed out aviation engines.

MarineTurbo.com Maybe dot us No Dot com I don't think is a thing Power generation Airboats and special projects I'm on the site right now It was linked by Raiden 428

MTT MTT commissions its latest monster airboat configuration do you mean dot co dot UK I mean exactly what I'm saying

marine turbo.com rated in 428 has it in the chat so marine turbine turbine turbine turbine turbine jeez dude sorry sorry sorry my bad my bad okay I will share it now

nice sorry guys listen I am very many time zones off and it is very early in the morning which means that it is the evening and my brain should be functioning correctly and yet it's not

I was like bruh this is definitely not a website I don't know what you're talking about I don't even understand I don't know we're looking at what are we looking at so go to go to okay

yeah what an adrenaline rush like none other on the planet turbine motorcycles if you go to Fifi airboats and special projects and click on airboats and workboats

there's what looks like a giant hovercraft to carry excavators what that's sick I don't know cool Imagine this being your business.

Basically redneck engineering for a living. If you're going to embed it like that, just link it on YouTube or something. That sucks that these are gone. Oh, this one's here. I mean, sure. Yeah, I mean, those aren't jet engines or anything, but still. Big old turbines. Those aren't jet engines or anything, but.

Dude, that thing's... Big old turbines. Those aren't... Those aren't genetic. All right. Well, anyway, we can move on. Didn't expect we'd be pulling that up today. Okay.

CW. Nounce, Dan, are they ready? Or should we buy them time? Have they messaged you? Seems to be updated. Nice. All right, CW announce. No, it doesn't. What are you talking about?

Oh, you got rid of the line. Oh, but weren't we supposed to buy them time so they could put it back? And didn't they remove it just in case? Can you check on that? Can you message the guy and we can do a topic real quick? Okay, nice. Samsung launched the first Android XR headset. After nearly a year since Google initially revealed their operating system for headsets,

Samsung's Galaxy XR is the first mixed reality headset powered by Android XR for $1,800 US dollars. Half of the Apple Vision Pro, that's terrifying. The Galaxy XR sports the new Snapdragon XR2 Plus Gen 2 chip, micro-o-led display, full-handed eye tracking, 256 keys of storage, and camera-enabled AI. The goal of Galaxy XR's integration with AI is to be more proactive. in situations that require awareness of our apps and what we're seeing in the real world simultaneously. Google's Samir Samat did mention that you can choose which apps are visible to AI,

which is relatively important unless it decides to look at other ones and also for now, like Linuset. The UiUX reportedly looks very similar to both the Apple Vision Pro and the MetaQuest, which makes complete sense, to be honest. CNET, there's an image of the UI on a demo, Kate, that is very generic and normal and kind of boring and bubbly. Okay, sounds good. While you can access- I mean, would you want something super black-a-doodle necessarily? Not for that screen, not particularly. Cool.

It just is what it is. While you can access- It looks like a Chrome browser. Yeah, everything's going to the bubblyness now. That I don't know how I feel about it. Like YouTube controls are all bubbly now. Oh, dude, right? I feel like we're doing the equal but opposite move of the Windows 8,

everything no matter what has to be a square. Now it's like everything no matter what has to be a bubble. And it's like, we didn't need either of these. We could have just chilled out in the middle. And that would have been totally fine forever. Thank you very much. Anyways. That's not how trendiness works.

Unfortunately, you are very correct. while you can access any app from Google Play out of the box Google reworked apps like Maps, YouTube and more specifically for XR for example but not their own for example

Google Photos you can turn your existing library of 2D photos into 3D so you can step into your memories sounds like a black mirror there is the comment left and I don't entirely disagree but not quite yes

sounds kind of cool, though. It does sound pretty neat. I would definitely try that with a couple. Google also ensured support for OpenXR, WebXR, and Unity, so there will be more new apps and experiences to come in the future. Samsung's CEO Juan Ju Choy did mention that they aren't aiming to replace smartphones with the release of new XR tech, but he believes they will complement and provide experiences people wouldn't have gotten with smartphones.

Well, I'm really glad he wasn't intending to replace smartphones because... That was never going to happen. Well, okay. With this release, that was never going to happen. In the very long term, do you think smart glasses have a shot? Sure, I've been wearing the clear meta glasses. I super do. I don't think these ones do.

uh well that's not going to happen yeah so yeah he's been wearing the oakley um transparent ones yeah on this trip and he commented last night that he's like really impressed with them so far and i was like oh yeah how come and he goes i've been using them all day i've been wearing them all day and uh i got back to the hotel room just now they were at like 30% battery i pop on the charger and in just like a few minutes they were charged back up and now my battery life's great and this is like right before we went out for dinner

and I was like okay but like other than being powered what have you done with them? And he's like, oh man like I can use them I can ask meta to do currency conversion for me and I was like I've been with you all day

you did that one time and it would have been just as fast you literally keep your phone in your chest pocket like it would have been just as fast to use your phone he's like ah but this is cooler but he's a trendy guy though he is no no to be clear to be clear no but what I'm saying is if he likes them

they might take off to be clear he's also taking the piss a little bit but he also pointed out that he used them to listen to music um when we were on the when we were in a shuttle and I was like, yes, I noticed that. Artie's in chat going, they're great as discreet headphones, lull. Artie, I'm sad to be the one who has to inform you that they're not that discreet.

I was able to clearly hear everything that Sherrod was listening to. So make of that what you will. If you're comfortable with people hearing what you're listening to, that's totally fine. It wasn't super obnoxious. It wasn't any worse than like an open back headphone or anything like that. But no, very much, very much listenable. so yeah he used them as headphones and as um and as uh a currency conversion one time and and to check a currency conversion

um he also did discreetly take a picture when people didn't realize he was taking a picture so he took a picture of us having a group picture taken of us and it was funny because um One of the brands that we worked with while we were here had they asked us if they could do like a behind the scenes of our video shoot for their own, their own channels. And we were like, oh, yeah, that kind of sounds okay. Like, it's going to be pretty small, right? They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a crew of, I kid you not. It felt like 10 people following us around the whole day.

So this like picture that they're taking, Sherrod has a picture of the. giant crew that was taking the picture so it's just it's so it's pretty funny that's kind of cool actually okay artie i know you love your meta glasses i'm not saying they're completely useless he points out they're amazing for recording roller coaster povs i'm not saying they don't have any use i'm just saying clearly we are very very far away from replacing a smartphone and honestly luke i don't know if ever it is just not more efficient to use natural language instruction compared to tapping on a screen

for a lot of things. Like this is kind of like that conversation we have recently where... Ever is going to be incorrect for sure. You're definitely wrong. I can say ever. Hold on. And I'm going to say ever. You definitely wrong.

Give me a second. Because we recently had this conversation yet again when some Microsoft executive said that the keyboard and mouse was going away and we're like, no, it's not. Because it's just always going to be faster to move something this far wait to move something this far and have that translated to something this far on a screen then moving your whole hand that far literally by definition

that will always be faster that's not the argument and in the same and it so it well the argument is that you won't need the other thing anymore right yeah and there is always going to be okay tell tell me this tell me this let's use let's use a use case that tech companies love to use because the people who work on their use case examples and the people who work on these presentations have money to travel they're always talking about travel even though most people don't travel and certainly don't travel regularly okay let's talk about travel you are researching flights on your screen whether that screen is attached to your eye holes or attached to your pocket computer

or attached to your laptop or desktop there are some flight options what will always be the fastest way to select the one that you want are you talking what device or physically how I would do it clicking on it I don't know eye tracking could

get us there but we're always going to have to have a way to indicate that that because we can't just have things randomly click on when we look at them. Yes, you need the selection. So there's always, there's always going to have to be a gesture

or an eye blink or a neural thing that we're going to have to train ourselves to do. Like there's going to have, there's going to have to be something. And in that time, it will always have been faster to move my finger and go like this always

I don't think so so that's that's the point well how will it be faster that's my question neural links like you were mentioning not eye tracking because like you said the confirmation of input

is the issue with eye tracking I mean you confirmation of input is yeah the NIA was from freaking OCZ and like 20 years ago I get it and you're saying ever

so if we're talking a hundred years in the future, you think we're still going to be using computer mice? Yeah, I actually, yeah, I think so. A hundred years in the future. Dude, Japan still, Japan is phasing out floppy disks. We're not talking about Japan. No, we're not talking about Japan.

Japan will absolutely still be using computer mice. Okay, that was a very bad faith argument. Japan might be using fax machines 100 years from now. That was a bad faith argument. But I think, I know, and we, and we, technically you're saying forever, so it could be 700 years from now if the Earth still exists and we haven't nuked humanity into non-existence. I think at some point in time, the computing as a whole will dramatically change. And I think it's going to be because

neural input and output is going to be a very wild thing. I do not think we are even sort of close. I don't know if we're going to see that in our lifetimes. It's saying forever is crazy, I think. There's no way we see that in our lifetime, man. Like, I'm trying to think of what the, like, what would be the infrastructure involved in neural interfaces that are so ubiquitous that you could, you could make a good faith argument that we have moved on from, from tapping on things, from using our hands, from using the, from using the, multi-million-year evolutionary marvels. Oh, it's going to get weird. And maybe this is my lack of imagination, right?

But I'm having a hard time imagining a technology that would allow us to non-invasively read the mind. Oh, it'll be invasively for sure. So if it's going to be invasive, I'm having a hard time imagining with us. People aren't going to do it? No, no, I'm not saying people won't do it. I'm just saying that we are, we're squishy and imperfect and messy and we're all a little different.

And I'm having a hard time imagining something that is commodity enough to invasively be implanted in the mind that will work, that will stay functional over the span of like, like aging and injury and sickness and all the things that happen. in our messy, messy, messy bodies. I, um, yeah, I don't know, man. It's going to be, it's going to be pretty wild. When bingo says, uh, eye tracking and then training everybody to wiggle their ears from a young age. Ear wiggle. It could be a great click method for smart glasses.

Ear wiggles. Yeah. Dragon Tamer says the neuralink input guy has talked about not missing in games. He doesn't miss. I mean, look, I'd be excited for neural inputs to get super good and super affordable. I just, I don't know, dude, it's going to be, I have a hard time imagine it being relaxing. Maybe that's, maybe that's what I'm getting kind of hung up on. So give us, so give us just a little bit, just give us a little bit.

It was like 600-ish years. We'll figure it out. The printing press was like... That's a pretty cool today. Mind-blowing. Like, you wouldn't have conceived of the printing press as like a person who wasn't trying to invent it. Maybe part of my problem is I'm just a little pessimistic right now.

I think it's easy to be. Like, I'm glad you brought up the printing press because I don't know if you know this, but like Western literacy rates are falling at an alarming rate. Oh, yeah. Right now. And so like I'm sitting here going, okay, let's say we do figure this out,

a device that we put on in the morning and it has like a wireless, it has a wireless charging interface on one side and just uses our body heat for power so we don't have to worry about batteries. And then it has like a close proximity high speed data link on the other. side that interfaces with like a brain wiring thing that's set up inside our mind or whatever yeah so we so we put on this thing or let's go even let's go even further to the to the hypothetical future and let's say they're their contact lenses or whatever there's been a lot of talk about that yeah so i i do what i scroll generated slop videos that are literally

created by tapping into my own subconscious mind to give me a drip feed of whatever it is that I most want to see and experience in the entire world. And I just sit there in my chair. Is this really, am I getting, have I reached old man yells at cloud? This future doesn't look like the future. Can we stop now? That doesn't mean you're right about keyboards. Dude, I don't know I don't think you're wrong But you can definitely scroll With a neural interface

Oh yeah No no And this is what people want Yeah with the Yeah Oh God Yeah I mean

Oh Lordy The Yeah Yeah Oh my brain hurts Um Yeah, man, can you imagine when they figure out how to tap into the part of your brain that lucid dreams, and you can just press, you can just open up the lucid dream app on your freaking neural interface thing,

and you can just like start lucid dreaming. You can, uh, dream about, we don't need a holodeck. Dream about, but that's going to be the way to do it. Arby's, you know, do it with brain drugs. new burger on available stores coming soon I don't even think so need to just inject advertisements right into your lucid dreams oh yeah yeah

uh yeah like like have you ever jumped of a phone Linus have you ever had a phone in one of your dreams have you heard about this? Have I ever had a phone in a dream? Have you heard about this idea? I have yeah I don't think I have you have is really interesting

you're the first person I've ever asked that to that has said yes yeah I had a dream once that the office was like invaded and so I was using my phone to type

like security code words and stuff interesting yeah I just needed it so it's it's like it's very much the same reason that I have a phone in real life that I have a phone in my dream because I need to do stuff with it

yeah yeah sorry i wish it was a more interesting answer um it's interesting that it's as a tool though so that that might make a little bit more sense i never i was not using it i wasn't like like recreationally using it i don't think i've ever dreamed of recreationally playing a video game i don't think i've ever dreamed of recreationally recreationally using my phone for sure no Dude, I can't wait until the apps on your frickin smart glasses are just things like lucid dream now and just like dopamine hit now. Because it's all just going to be, it's all just going to be wired up and it's going to give you like an electrical impulse in your brain.

And you can just be like, it's freaking, it's going to be like opioid addiction on steroids and on opium. You'll just be like dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, dopid, dopid, dopamine, like faster than you can think it. you'll be able to just like hit the dopamine button dude this is going to be wild and then they're going to monetize it yep yep every WAN show

it's amazing how we reach a new level of this is all just going to be dystopia blundetto says just press the nut button they're going to make special underwear yeah for sure we're gonna we're gonna have man pads

I think it'll just auto-evacuate all right should we do the CW announcement do you want me to do it I can do it Yeah, just, yeah, just... Introducing... I can do it if you want to put up the screen cap.

Sure. Or the screen, whatever. I got you. Sorry, I'm sad right now. You're good. I still don't see it in the collection, Dan. Oh, God. I thought you said it's there. What do you mean?

The thing? Good. I have no idea what they're talking about right now, so I'm just going to sit here and... Stahl for time I check the global one and it's there I check the US one and it's not there That's what it says in the note I think you guys are talking about the desk pad

I didn't check the note I didn't know it was only in one of them Okay I found it we're good Introducing the Glitch collection We've got three new items launching on LTT store today including the Glitch T-shirt featuring a unique hem pattern

at the bottom of the shirt that's a very boring description for it basically Lisa did a cool design that was sort of inspired by like a like a smashed broken LCD panel with the oh like with the yeah that is really cool yeah so it's supposed to be a little bit of smash broken panel a little bit of like GPU memory artifacting um and it's it's just meant to to kind of, you know, inspire memories of push that overclock too hard or dropped my laptop, you know?

I think it's awesome. I think it's pretty cool. The, me saying this is going to immediately make it not that. So I'm sorry, but I think it's like kind of the swagiest shirt we've released. I think it's like actually just raw, cool. It just looks cool. And like so many of our designs over the years, it's meant to be like if you know you know tech inspired yeah just genuinely cool and you can

actually wear it there is no logo is there uh there's one inside the inside the back of the nape of the neck yeah i mean like uh visible on the outside of the shirt yeah i mean we've we've taken a pretty light branding approach for many years now i think i can say multiple multiple years now and it's always baffling to me and people say I love the LTT store stuff but there's just too much branding on it's like bro you got no idea what branding looks like we're pretty

we take a pretty light touch when it comes to branding I don't think this one has a logo on it I don't think so I think it looks really cool though we also have a lenticular pin that changes depending on where you view it from as part of the glitch collection and we've got this design on a brand new desk pad the desk pad is on the global site now

so that's Canada plus worldwide and we'll be available on the US site shortly they just haven't arrived at our US warehouse yet so if you're from the US and you want to purchase a glitch desk pad maybe hold off on your purchase until they are available shop now at LMG.g.g.g slash glitch I actually kind of wonder if this is one of those cases where we should have just set up back orders. I didn't I haven't been in town so I didn't really have a chance to talk to the team about it in general. I'm very opposed to pre-orders and back orders, but if it's something where it's just like, yeah, the truck is like 10 blocks away, then maybe, I don't know. The trade situation with the U.S.

did literally just change. Is there another one? I've been out of the loop, man. I've been out of the loop. What is it now? Within the last, I think, 24 hours, Trump said trade talks are off with Canada. why this time he's he's saying no he's saying it's because an advertisement that was being

ran inside of Canada by some level of government saying that tariffs are bad um but a lot of the speculation that I'm seeing is that it's actually because uh Canada is in trade talks with China right now about strengthening our trade relations oh we should keep doing that yeah um merch messages you want to explain it and i'll try to be the guide um or i can i just thought it would be funny to do it this way if you guys uh if you guys want to uh interact with the show we don't want you to just throw money at the screen because we think that when you throw money at your screen you should get quality merchandise in return instead of just an acknowledgement from a streamer or whatever I actually thought oh crap I'm gonna get it wrong it was it was one of the it was

one of the like like no life reaction to everything streamers I can't remember which one but someone someone recently yeah yeah yeah it was one of them I'm so what did he do what did they do basically they were like hey yeah don't donate to me I'm rich enough and I thought that was super cool was that moist Uh, didn't that happen a while ago? I think he's done it multiple times. Yeah,

apparently it was most critical. Yeah, cool. Pretty sure he's done that before. It was recently regarding the whole YouTube members only content thing. When we turned off our members only content, um, anyway, the point is,

uh, yeah, he was, he was like, yeah, don't, don't donate to me. You shouldn't be donating to me.

We have felt that way for a very, very, very long time, which is why we created merch, messages. So instead of donating, you should just like get high quality merchandise if you want to support the show. Obviously, that's not as profitable for us as just taking your money. But we take pride in what the creator warehouse team creates, like the glitch desk pad that you guys are looking at right there. And we think that we make quality products that last a long time. And we think

it's just a way cooler, healthier way for us to to grow and to support our team. And and also for you guys to get great high-quality products. So all you got to do to send a merch message to interact with the show is add something to your cart on LTTStore.com. When we're live, you're going to see a little box that's going to give you an opportunity to fill out your merch message. That'll go to producer Dan. Hey, there he is.

You can pick your color for your merch message. You can anonymize your name or you can have your name show up. And then Dan will either pop it up on the screen with like a little acknowledgement. You could be like, hey, what's up, mom? how you doing, Jerry? Or you can ask a question, and if your question is something that Dan can answer, or even if it's something that he can't,

he might just reply to you and say something irrelevant, or he might answer it, or he might forward it to someone who can get back to you, or he might curate it. And then it'll go to me and Luke, and we will talk about your merch message. That's right. We've got a few in already.

We've got a couple here. Also, if you allow your email to be shared, then I can also send you over to support if you have something that might be relevant for our team to follow up with. Got one here from Jonathan. Hey, DLO. No, it is not Luke and I. Sorry, hold on. We're having an argument about grammar.

Oh, I love semantics. The way to tell if it's Luke and I or me and Luke is which one of those words would have applied properly to you. So Luke and I went to the store. because I went to the store. Dan is really mean to me and Luke because Dan is really mean to me. It's that easy.

And nobody knows that, which is like crazy because like when I was in school, nobody ever explained that to me. I had to figure that out on my own. I was like, how do I figure out these rules? And I like, I kind of like came up with that. And then I looked it up and it was like, That's totally a thing.

But no teacher ever explained that to me, which drove me crazy. So knowing how easy it is, it drives me even more nuts when people do it wrong because it's actually that easy. Isn't that crazy? Anyway, sorry, Dan. Go ahead. Chat, trying to grammar Nazi, the grammar Nazi is a battle to behold. Me fail, English? That's impossible.

Um, hey, DELO, love this show. A question for Linus. How is the LTT bit case coming along? Oh, good. Yeah, I've got one with me right now. Uh, oh, I am tethered, but... I mean, they've seen it on the show before. You have showed it off a couple times, yeah.

Yeah, but not everyone has. You assume everyone watches every video. They do. Every single person does. Every show viewer comes back every week, because the ones that I interact with are full-plane chat, and a lot of them actually do. You mean to tell me people don't watch every week? Disgusting.

What is it? He's just, we've seen it like so many times. He didn't need to go. I want to show people my travel loadout. Oh, cool. Okay, that's kind of neat. All right, that adds a spin to it. Yeah, he's okay with it.

This is my way of carrying everything that I need, I'm traveling without having anything that looks too suspicious so in my in one bag because I'll usually have my my my roller bag might like my carry-on size roller bag and then I'll have a personal item I'll have a backpack so in one bag I will keep my stubby screwdriver so this is well under the limit of every customs and security authority that I have ever encountered I think I figured out where you're going with this in there okay then I'll carry my LTT bit case.

I lost one, so CW made me a new one that has my name printed on it. Thank you, CW. Appreciate you. I think it was probably Tynan. And then I've got all the bits that I will generally need in there that are not part of like the standard bit set. So I got my torques. I've got my imperial hex, my metric hex, and then I have a couple specialty ones. This is kind of my load out for this.

So I keep those together. And then separately in my other bag, I will keep a. shaft extension so then I can convert my stubby screwdriver into so you can still use the nerling and everything and then I've got my bit set because I could see getting a precision set taken just because it's so obviously extremely sharp and pointy and like it just looks really weird in the scanner but this and this alone without the shaft extension is just like yeah it's a little it's a short tool which you're allowed to have and then the shaft extension on its own is nothing it's just a metal it's a metal shaft you were like i put the stubby in this

bag i was like i know exactly what he's doing yeah so this is this is my travel kit that i can uh yeah it ex and derestrick says i had an i fix it screwdriver taken in sydney that doesn't surprise me at all whereas this and to be clear this is not advice i'm not this is not advice if you take your stubby screwdriver and if all your stuff gets taken i'm not liable i'm not responsible it's always kind of up to them i i have not had trouble with this in the past but you never know when you're going to run into a tsa agent who's having a bad day or whatever and at the end of the day it's it's their judgment call so um i've had good luck with it but your mileage may vary i forget what the question was did i answer it bit when when when when

when arriving bitcase. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Why don't you move on to the next one while I look that up then? Okay, sure. How are you gentlemen? It's not a question. It's just got exclamation points.

Don't answer. All your base belong to us. Ever. I lost a bunch. You have no way to survive. Make your time. I can't handle this man. You have no chance to survive.

Damn. Oh, nearly. I lost a bunch of weight this year and I'm reloading on newer, smaller shirts. Are any of you working on any long-term personal goals right now? And if so, how are those going? My house not being a mess. That's the only thing.

Sorry, Dan. Nope, no, we're not able to talk about that yet. I didn't think so. That is not nearly as important as this. Dan, you need to show this to the stream. I will ask no questions. This is tremendously important. Give me one second.

Come on. Come on, here we go. Uh, okay, is everybody ready? Luke, is you ready? So, I hope so. I don't know. Luke. Sir, ability to Ken, has already been created by the illustrious Sarah Butt.

Oh, he's so cute. Apparently she was watching. Oh, my God. How is this possible? It's so adorable. What? Her, her message to me simply says, uh, hold on. Let me see if I can find this.

Yeah, here we go. I don't know why, but he feels like he needs a top hat. That's awesome. There we go. It could be our friend for this show. I like that. Okay, I'm sorry. Dan, you were saying.

You're doing any long-term goals? Oh, right. Sorry, yes, Luke. I'd love to hear your long-term goals. No, just my house not being screwed up. I haven't been doing like anything else. I've been going to work and working on that. So I don't know.

And then once, I don't know, for the first half of November, I'm just gone again. So like I've been out of the gym for a long time. But I've been doing physical things. I've been working on the house. So like, I don't know. I feel mostly okay. But I'll get back on the wagon when my house is not completely screwed

and I am in the country. Those things are decently important. Sometimes I do work out on the road, but it's kind of hard to find some gyms are really expensive for drop-in, and usually I'm really busy with whatever reason I'm on the road for. So yeah, I can't remember if Linus answered. Sorry, I did not. I haven't. I actually have a doc. This is my, this is my, like, everything from my ADD brain dump dock. It's like 17 pages of just wall of text. of like random business ideas I've had over the years sometimes it's just like like a line that I'm like that be funny that would be funny like I uh oh man do I still

do I still oh okay yeah yeah I have a section called script ideas that I never really like ended up using it using but I had these I have these two funny things that I never remember because I never really use it I only remember it when I'm not actually writing but I have these two ideas in here. So I have this one, trying to do something by scowling at it

and then scowling at it harder with like a hat on or something. I don't know, but it'd be funny. Like basically, okay, look, it's a, it's only partially baked, okay? The point is that like. It sounds like a line. Yeah, right? Like I was trying to get my, I was trying to get my iPhone, transfer wizard

to work properly Apple wasn't helpful so I tried like scowling at it that didn't work so I scowled at it harder and unfortunately that didn't work either so all my messages are still on my Android phone oh my god he's back kind of

what is he called how I would integrate what's the two cans name Linus I've lost the ability to two can his yeah yeah ability too can but I think with his distinguished top hat he needs to be sir ability to can sir ability to can

to can. Yeah, and whenever I can't anymore, I lose him. Now he's on the hand. Yeah, he's perched on your hand. I like that. Yep, sir, ability to can. Do you have any other examples from your doc? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's your oldest video idea in your doc? Okay, so oldest video idea? Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got another joke. I got another joke idea. I need to joke about how, like, some color, like, like it's like an RGB joke like a joke about how this

this color needs more R and more B to be the right color like I'm playing around with like a slider and then like R and B music starts playing or like I take away all the G and then just like music turns on like just oh if you take away if it's rap music and you take a while the G and it stops being rap music

I actually kind of like that So I don't know man It's just like it's my doc Did you just get it? I already dinged it I think Oh okay okay Yeah he dinged it he dinged it So I do I do oh so you want an old video idea Okay no the video idea doc is a different

Doc I think oh I might have purged it Oh no no I still have it oh dude I still have it Oh my god This is a terrible idea entire archive. So here's the Luke. Here's the Luke section of video ideas. I knew I had seen this doc.

Oh, no. Oh, no. This is old. Yeah, Pizza Warmer PC Part 2 is in here, so I can delete that. We've done that now. Nice. Let's get rid of that. And then I've got 771 to 775 sticker conversion.

So that idea is obviously old enough that wanting to use an LGA 775 processor was valid. Ultimate Gamer PC with a PS4, Xbox 1 and a Wii U inside. We've done it now. I can delete that. Dude, wow, we've actually done some of this stuff.

Here's one that is a terrible idea. Fireplace mod. Put a TV in an old fireplace with speakers and play the LTTULog video. Why would we do that?

Why would I even write that down? That's an entire video That sounds like a me idea Yeah that's the whole video idea Yeah it sounds cool I like that It sounds like it could be easy to shoot too Yeah

What computer out of one inch blocks What does that even mean Is that the whole title One inch blocks Yeah I don't know what that means I have one that says ready for VR I have like six R's Is bullspit

Remember that VR ready badge Yeah okay so that was a very timely thing as well that's gone now iMac mod this just says iMac mod okay no that makes sense says balls to the wall web server that i bet you that was probably we were trying to get something for flow plane that's my guess oh probably yeah it's a link to my inbox so i'm clicking and i think it's pulling this off of tape um balls to the wall web server i don't know what i don't know what any of this is okay forget it this is garbage uh some of this we could still do full screen versus borderless window input leg slash fps that was from a

that's still not a bad idea that's still not a bad idea yeah because you know we could do fan filters affect airflow that's another good one from alex 91 underscore c why do you know about the latency introducer box thing the Labs has? I do. I do. What if we figured out the input lag gap

between windowed and borderless and then forced the windowed one sorry, forced the yeah, windowed mode on borderless, figured out that gap and then forced it with the input box and then tried to see if people could tell. Can you tell the difference

between windowed mode and borderless? I think I can tell you the answer to that already I don't think people will be a lot of people think they can though interesting well okay but but part of why a lot of people think they can might be because the implementation on some games was really bad like I think it was CSGO that if you were in borderless and then you alt tabbed and went back in the game it was trash and we found this out because we were doing something

and it was a problem for us because normally you wouldn't alt-tab out of your full-screen video game and then go back into it but like that's fixed now so I don't know there might be some games where it's still a problem

but I sincerely doubt that it's most of them okay keep going what else we got oh no oh yeah more more video ideas from him not topics for you, Dan. Oh, we're very, okay.

Sure. Oh, dude, the USBC versus MicroB durability test is under James. We made that video. That was one of the first videos he worked on. So the last time I used my to-do list for your guys' video ideas was probably when I did that wave of hiring

when we hired Emily, James, and Alex. That makes sense. We actually did some of the Alex ones, too. Ultimate Air Cooled PC, giant industrial fan thing. We did it. Actual single slot mod with hacked off stock cooler

and rear mounted 120 millimeter fan. We did that too. That's crazy. That is crazy. Make a heat sink for like $10 with a hacksaw and a chunk of metal. Bench against a stock cooler.

We did that too. Yeah, so unlike Luke, Alex actually like did all the work that was assigned to him before he wasn't working here anymore. I guess he still got time though. I did a ton of it. There's things we removed off the because they were done my goodness because I know someone else did it Jordan did your pizza

warming PC I could have done that if you wanted I'll do version three and I'll make it worse yeah I was going to say I make it I DX 12 and Vulcan was on that dock I'm pretty sure and it just got done so it was removed off oh no that was on a different dock we had a we I we created a different dock later this one's older um oh Okay, so right, right, right. I remember how we got on this subject. I was supposed to talk about goals. So this is where I put goals.

So one of my goals is to fix my calendars. My calendars are a mess. I have like a billion calendars. And then do you remember that sponsored video we did on that, that like conference room booking tablet thing? Yes, actually. Does anyone remember this? Yes, I do.

Yeah. So some of, as part of that video, one of my calendars got, exposed publicly and so for years I had just like spam events that would pop up on my phone because the calendar was like bound to a work account

that was shared to my other account and then my personal account was that I could it took me a while to figure out like how they were all intertwined and they're still kind of messed up my calendars are kind of a mess so I need to fix my calendars

why don't you just have you have a person for this um yeah I am probably you're the worst at using an assistant yes that is exactly what I was about to say

because if it's really easy I might as well do it and if it's hard I need to do it so I just end up my flow chart is like no matter what screw it I'll just do it Oh man To be clear This is not a knock against Vance

Vance is awesome He actually does a lot For me But just not that Like travel for instance Like Vance checks me into all my flights Dude he's getting fast So like

Not the check in So he has Oh like bookings and stuff Yeah We worked through something this week And it was zooming That might be why but yeah like he he he definitely like helps me with with very useful stuff or just like if I'm if I'm like

oh crap I need to follow up on that I'll be like Vance can you follow up on that he'll he'll get it he'll get it he'll get it going for me so yeah like it's great but no I'm I'm not good at delegating oh I have fixed my kids password managers I need to do that my kids still don't have password managers and they're like making their way into their teens at this point and it is becoming a problem especially because um one of my kids has a password manager so we've been really inconsistent about where the other kids passwords go sometimes they're in my password manager sometimes there and sometimes they're in my eldest and there's no consistency there so we need to kind of deal with all that and we're not even all using the same password manager so just sharing

folders is not straightforward either you have the thing now though right i know i know but it's that's what i'm telling you it's on my list to to deal with fans could do that too for my goals i have right counting computers that's at the top of my goals so that's supposed to be the follow-up to the abcs of gaming which came out five years ago so i haven't done that nice um Not Jesus says, you're truly the perfect example of a dude with ADHD. Desperately in need of an assistant, but utterly incapable of utilizing one. Yes. Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah. Oh, I have my eldest daughter drill something. We were at a family event and using a drill came up and she was like, I don't like drills. So that's something we need to get over. I decided very early on in parenting that no daughter of mine will not be able to throw a ball properly or be able to drill a hole in a wall properly and use basic tools. That's just not acceptable. I thought this might happen.

We apparently used to just email each other. Like I found an email thread from 2014 where we're just, you're just like spamming emails. like you emailed me just the word free nass the thread is the thread is just called tasks and then you just emailed me free nass so the first email is voiceover guide for DIYAA

node 804 case um pf sense router guide overclock and guide preparation fix up our cabling situation here um by extension cords, wall amount power bars, etc.

And then you responded to that one just saying free NAS and then you responded to that one just saying Wancho set and then you started to that one saying calendar spot for ball pit and then I responded saying notes for myself, find new ad partner for the forum. And no I have no

idea what calendar spot for ball pit means. So this explains why I got an email from Linus with just a picture and 4 Wancho on it. This is just how you guys operate? All right, that makes so much more sense. Everybody gets a pass.

I mean, email is just text messaging. Pretty much. Except it's less likely to get lost. Oh, shoot. Osiris in the chat says, when is the bit case coming out, Linus? Yeah, I searched for CW in my inbox, and then I meant to actually click on any of the things that come up.

Okay, this is from the weekly CW huddle October 21st meeting. NPI's or new product introductions. Let's see. On 1024, we will be introducing the Glitch T-shirt, glitch desk pad, and glitch pins. I guess you guys knew that already. Available now, LTTStore.com. Okay, what else we got here?

Thermochromic Jacket, something, something. NPI December is apparently going to be the bit case. So it is green in the finalized launch date thing. So I'm pretty sure, yeah, I'm pretty sure it should come in December sometime. But nothing is launched until it is actually launched, as we know very well, from our mod mat okay what are we supposed to be doing

I just I found I was really random I found my will which was apparently in my work email I was trying to find tasks and it came yeah that was an interesting read

that's pretty old surprisingly still relevant no why would I give you How'd I give you things? You don't need anything. Let me see, just in case. A will is not just about stuff. Isn't it?

It's about sharing bird and... Mine is. What is it? Pugboy says, okay, but do the birds get anything? Oh, wait. Actually, Mm. You are in it.

But it's not about stuff. But is it mean? No. Tell them I always. hated him? No, it's not, it's not mean. Tell my always, I mean, oh my God. Honestly,

I would laugh. I would actually think it's pretty funny. My whole life, I was resentful of everything. Oh my God. The whole relationship was toxic and I hated every moment of it. It's like already been almost half my life, that would be intense.

Oh my God. Dude, I would, there's no way that even for a second, I would believe it. So I would think it's pretty damn funny. I had a conversation with someone the other day. They, I'm not going to get into the reasons why. We were talking about, like, if I, yeah, I won't talk about why, but I was like, if I can't, I, I won't talk about why, but I was like, if I got diagnosed with cancer, I would tell Linus on Wancho. Oh, that's so base.

Sorry, what? That's so obese. Oh, that's amazing. I don't. This is not me doing that, by the way. Surprise, Linus. I was like, we've had this, like, thing forever that, like, if you died, we would monetize your, like, death of a funeral.

It was supposed to be a joke. But I was like, yeah, I mean, I got to tell them somehow. Linus would probably be like, no, no, no, I save them for the show anyway. if you tried not to I feel really important you say it for the show save it for the show you just send you an email

to him that just says death and nothing else coming soon subject death death question mark sorry subject tasks but

oh man casket oh my god oh it's great oh man Um Okay Anywho

Oh dude Oh my god Speaking of monetizing my death Oh go ahead You go first So the thing The reason why I'll just say it I don't know if people are going to like this or not

They might dislike it But you know what? I am who I am In my will And the person who wrote it for me Made it very clear That there was no expectation That this could happen

they were not entirely comfortable with writing it in. But in my will is there's a certain amount of funds that should be put aside to rent a boat and buy a smaller boat and go out into international waters and then put me in a wooden boat and push me away and then shoot it with a flaming arrow. And that's how I want my...

And I'm probably the one person that you could imagine would even have any means, the means and the will to do it. Thanks, man. Okay. I understand why I'm in there now. See, that's what I'm saying. It's not just material stuff in the will. That's my point exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that that is actually legitimately in my will. I don't think that's legal.

International waters. This is an important part. It has to be international waters. I would still have to, I would still have to obtain your human remains in Canada. There is issues getting my, yeah, remains. offshore. That's why I was, you're going to have to pay a captain a lot, I think, is the situation. Or you just have to... I think I know a guy. Yeah. Or you just have to buy the boat yourself. I think I, no, I think I could find a guy. I got, I got, I got some. Yeah, okay. Where there's a wilderness away. Oh yeah. But I wrote this like, you don't have to be dead if you want this would have been i think this would have been like 20 yeah it'd be a lot easier to get him

out there if he's not dead yet well he would be afterwards but you know yeah but that's that's later yeah yeah unique username wrote you're gonna be a pain in the ass even when you're dead the lawyer person literally said effectively that they're like you can't really expect people to like do this much work like even if we figure out the legality problems like this is a lot of like Hoops to jump. I think what we could do. I think we could honor the spirit of the request. I think that we could get your ashes.

And then we could get like, I think what we could do. And I think, I think you'd approve of this. I think you'd approve of this. I think we could get, do you remember Slender Man? That like weird cloth dummy that we obtained many years ago?

Or like, or like, or we could use, you know, our skeleton, like Steve, like we could use an iconic piece of LMG or something, right?

And then we could like, put your ashes like in its heart or something like that you know we get them all like this on the thing we get a little robot no i think you're picking up what i'm throwing down yeah yeah yeah yeah i think you're picking up what i'm throwing down so we put the ashes that are legally obtained we get like we get some some iconic we get some like man if we could obtain like an xbox 360 or o g xbox it have to be an ogy xbox we get an ogy xbox we get your pc we get some like we get some of Luke's life okay kind of like

Egyptian this is part of the plan this is part of the plan yeah but not maybe your wives or whatever you know no no no no and and then we put them we put them all in the boat and then we do the arrow

okay it realistically none of us are archers it might take a few shots so the plan I don't have the whole thing in here because it's my notes for it but the plan is that if I remember correctly it was supposed to be all of the so like if my if say my dad and my brother brother your brother your dad is that happened knock on wood it's a line of yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and i

imagine we'd have to bring a lot of arrows because like probably any of us are archery whizzes and and like realistically we can't just shoot right at it that's not the way no you got you have to arch you have to arc yeah so we'd have to we'd have to arc it yeah um so this could like take a while and then i would imagine that you'd want it to like as much as possible like be an event oh yeah so it would have to be like the boat there'd have to be like music like we'd need like kind of Nordic music kind of thing and like there should be food and it should kind of culminate in this moment when we put you out to sea and we like and we we arc the flaming arrows onto the boat and we watch it burn yeah hell yeah like am i kind of am i kind of picking up the right vibe here that wasn't exactly what i was

imagining but it sounds fantastic so hell yeah okay okay yeah that's like i think the like side details weren't honestly a lot of what I was trying to get across. No, it's the spirit. Yes. It's the spirit of the request. I think we could handle it. Yeah, yeah. I think we could handle it. Yeah. Yeah, but I realistically, you're younger than me, so I'd ideally like for that to not have it. Yeah, so far I'm doing all right, but that is, that is in there. Yeah. I insisted that it was important. They really didn't want to keep it in there, and I insisted that it was important. You're such a pain in the And the fact that I'm thinking about this now is good. This is why it's important to talk about this stuff, right?

Thinking about this now when I can bounce ideas off of him and I can kind of read the body language and we can have a back and forth conversation. It's not an easy conversation, but it's good because if I was blindsided with this, dude, dude. I do think you're right at the same time, though. I think between like you and my brother and whoever else I think you guys would have got it I think so too I just I do I do agree with what you're saying though

I do agree with what you say have you heard of daughter from California syndrome what I learned it I was yesterday years old when I learned about daughter from California syndrome um what I think that's what it's called let me double check yeah daughter from California California Syndrome. It has a

Wikipedia page and everything and it's a phrase used in the American medical profession. I'm just reading this off of Wikipedia to describe a hitherto disengaged relative who challenges the care of a dying elderly patient and

insists that the medical team pursue aggressive measures to prolong the patient's life. So basically it's like how it's the behavior of someone who's been uninvolved with a dying patient. And suddenly wants to be involved

but there's no real chance now. And this is the way that their brain just like this is a switch that flips in their brain that they have to keep this person alive and that's the way that they can show they care. And we need to spend a ton of money and we need to be really aggressive with the medical

professionals who are doing their best and kind of trying to tell you look, palliative care is the way now. And yeah, daughter from California syndrome. And so, you know, I've gone through a couple of family losses, you know, in my life, and it's such a thing. It's so much of a thing, man. Yeah, KSU Wildcat in Floplane Chat says literally my sister, when my mom had been in hospice for over 18 months.

Yeah, exactly. And so it's, and to be clear, I'm not like attacking these people for their behavior because it's probably part of their grieving process. Yeah. it sucks for everyone else and you need to not do that also but like I understand that they're not in a great headspace right um but like you never know who's going to show up and who's going to be in a not great headspace at the time of someone's passing and when these instructions are not explicit and when they're not discussed ahead of time then there's a lot more room for ambiguity and and it can it can be really stressful um like it was it was really stressful going through some of this stuff when my sister passed um my family is not the least fragmented family of all time i mean i think i've been pretty open that my parents split when i was i don't even know if i was one yet um and there's been that that was the beginning not the end of that story and so um

There was a lot of, you know, there was a lot of disagreement about, you know, what should be done. And it was, it was tough, man. It was really tough. I feel like I've been relatively fortunate in that regard, both with my brother, because I don't imagine it will be even sort of an issue between the two of us. and also the relatives that were closer to me that passed, there was no real, none of those complications. There were some that I know of, but they weren't super, yeah, yeah, they were. That involved, like, creating a lot of work for especially your dad.

Yeah. That was not cool. Yeah, I know the thing you're, I know the thing. Yeah. My dad is surprisingly good at tanking stuff, so he was able to handle. He's a de-escalator. Yes. So.

Yeah. So he was able to handle that, which was good. But that shouldn't have happened. No, I agree. And I think, I think something people who are grieving forget is everyone else is grieving to. It's like really not the time for fights. And I can understand like if.

And it's really not the time to make it about yourself. If you, you know, you might be genuinely getting screwed over by someone who is just being a huge jerk. And like, you might need to kind of defend yourself to a certain degree. but like, man, it's crazy that this is like kind of a default in most scenarios. Like most, most conversations have had with people about someone passing. There is a lot of disagreements on a lot of fights. It's just kind of sad.

Yeah. And I think that's, I don't remember because it's been quite a while since I wrote it, but I think that was one of my motivations for my thing because it's so like crazy and grandiose that either you do it or I don't care, man, just do whatever. And if you do it, then, like, sick. And whatever interpretation you have of that, sick. Yeah. Memorable.

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Two more topics. I mean, maybe we should get through the float plane thing too? No. Nope, we should do some more topics. Android box manufacturer soft locks devices sold below official minimum price. Scummy actions. Android box manufacturer, Superbox, is locking consumer devices to get back at retailers. If a retailer is delinquent in their debts, really?

Or sells a device below the official minimum price set by us. Superbox will soft lock consumers' devices and instructs end users to contact the retailer as the fastest way to resolve the issue. Dude, this is some mafia level stuff here. Superbox advertises the set tops. So I'm, so I'm super box, okay? I sell you 10 super boxes. You're a retailer.

You're having a hard time moving them. So you discount them. You sell your 10 super boxes. Okay, a bunch of our WAN show viewers. Uh, let's say, uh, here, I'm going to name some, uh, currently pooping, Ann M. White, Pone Crackers, PK7, Crystal, PCmaster, Rays, uh, unique username, David K, Booger, Flinger, and Nipolis Cage, okay? These are actual float plane users, all of them. You guys truly are the float goats. So, they all buy these boxes, right? at a discount I found out

that you sold them at a discount I soft lock their devices so they stop working and I tell them they've got to go back to you so you can compensate me for selling them at a discount how flipping

wild is that imagine imagine living in the brain of the person who is a big enough a hole to do this crazy Crazy. Superbox advertises the set tops as IPTV boxes.

The brand doesn't appear to sell direct to consumer or advertise its MSRPs even or even authorized resellers. Yeah, rough. So customers would be hard pressed to avoid suspiciously low prices as Superbox advises were they even aware it was a possibility. Unfortunately, the practice of setting a minimum advertised price or map. or minimum resale price MRP of a price maintenance and and of price maintenance are all legal in the US and Canada what is price maintenance wild I've actually never heard of price maintenance I've heard the other ones I haven't heard of price maintenance yeah I'm gonna have to click on this our link is from the price maintenance may occur when a supplier

prevents a customer from selling a product below a minimum price okay it may also occur when a supplier refuses to supply a customer or otherwise discriminates against them because of their low pricing policy okay it's illegal only in certain circumstances however the part where you brick the consumers box i almost certainly has to be illegal however these are essentially pirate streaming boxes as far as i can tell so they're already operating and in a completely nebulous legal area and it shouldn't surprise you that people who run sort of morally ambiguous businesses participate in morally ambiguous business practices um this just felt like the single most egregious case of you no longer own the products that you buy that i had

yet seen it went kind of viral on the subreddit and i just couldn't believe it i wanted to flag this if you guys know anyone in your life who is considering a super box make sure they know not to buy this this is mind blowing to to use my ability to use my device as leverage against the seller who sold it to me what Yeah, Lowell Inverse says the worst you've seen so far. I mean, I get, honestly, I don't even know. Would this be illegal? Hold on a second.

Because if it's legal to just turn off the service of a device that you ordered for no reason whatsoever. Like, is this any worse? Like, yeah, it's more insidious. Like, it's like worse in a sense, I guess. The outcome is the same. The device you paid for doesn't work anymore. Too far gone says put them in the flaming wood. I think this makes me more uncomfortable if the box wouldn't normally rely on a service, if that makes sense.

I think it does, though, because they're probably running their own pirate streaming, which is probably a big part of why they don't have a reseller list and they don't have an MSRP. Because they're just trying to stay as under the radar as possible. Yeah, this was a really good idea if you wanted to stay under the radar. I know, right? Stupid. Anyway, all right, we can... Moving on.

Open AI unveils its chromium-based chat GPT web browser, Atlas, as a tool for vibe-lifing. The same week, Microsoft launches co-pilot mode in Edge and introduces Miko, the new Clippy. I would have been actually totally down for them to just bring Clippy back, not whatever Miko is. Atlas, chat GPD's thing, looks and functions like a traditional web browser, but it adds chat GPD functions and features throughout. Opening a new tab lets you either enter a URL or ask chat GPD a question, which is just Googling things these days. Browser memory is an optional tool that tracks the pages and topics you've explored so

Atlas can suggest related content, help you revisit past research, and automate repetitive tasks. Hey, it's recall. And now you're asking for it. Hey, let's go. Vibe-lifing. We believe we can start in the long run to have an amazing tool for vibe-lifing. Will Ellsworth, the research lead for Agent Mode in Atlas, said during the live stream. So delegating all kinds of tasks

both in your personal and professional life to the agent in Atlas is apparently vibe-lifing. Okay. Microsoft's Edge copilot mode does really similar stuff to Atlas with co-pilot actions performing simple tasks for you and the journeys feature remembering your past

right. Okay, so it's the same thing. Both browsers claim to, and they're both chromium. Hooray. Both browsers claim to care about your privacy. Coughcough, they definitely need. don't, and they need permissions to take actions on sensitive sites such as financial institutions. They probably actually don't want to do that because of the liability, so they might actually care about that.

Microsoft introduced Miko or Microsoft co-pilot. Miko? Yeah, okay, maybe it is Miko if it's Microsoft co-pilot. Yeah. Okay, I don't know anymore. Who knows? I think it's probably whatever you want it to be. A new visual presence slash mascot.

It listens, reacts, and even changes colors to reflect your interactions. It's a mood sensing ring. Everybody's just comparing it to Clippy, although I can't show you because they don't have access to the dock where apparently everybody's doing that. Remember when Cortana was supposed to be this? Yeah. At least that was cool because it was like Xbox and Halo and like if Cortana just didn't

just like royally suck. It would have been all right. Yeah. I didn't mind the general implementation of Cortana. I actually thought the idea was cool it was just terrible at everything that it tried to do charged nuclei 8 D300

says it was never cool you take that back the branding was cool the branding was awesome it was cool that they paid the actual Cortana voice actress that was cool yeah the the like functionality of Cortana

was not as interesting the functionality was the entire problem And it's not the functionality, like, they decided it would do the wrong things and I wanted to do other things. The things that it could theoretically do were often actually kind of neat. It just couldn't do them very well. That was the problem. Clippy comes up if you click on Mikeo too much from Satya. Really?

What do you mean clipy comes up? Imagine being aware enough that it's just Clippy and that people are kind of nostalgic for Clippy to do that, but not being. aware enough to just make the mascot clipy. Oh, Miko is so generic and boring too. Oh, no. Oh, that sucks. You should just be able to, I mean, I'm sure

eventually you'll be able to buy skins. Yeah. Wow, this is such a... Okay, what am I supposed to click on here? Clicky comparisons, okay. It's just going to be, okay. This is it. that's that's that's miko i like our two can better yeah micho's just a blob you can't offend anybody if it's not anything i guess i don't know i don't know those colors

seem yeah that's true um distinctly like they could be too human or maybe they'd seem like they're not human enough that's true that one looks like a sour peach yeah I'm trying here but yeah apparently if you I didn't even see what he's doing dang I missed out

making him spin along with him someone linked it uh man somebody linked it turning into clipy here we go here we go hold on if you tap on it a bunch of times and come on there

clipy Which immediately looks so much cooler. Can we just have clipy? Can I just say that? Just instantaneously look so much cooler. Unique username says, oh, I've seen this rolled out to me, definitely designed by committee, zero character.

Oh, I'm sure. That's been really, um, I shouldn't say eye opening because I've noticed it before, but being in Japan and China recently, like mascots are so much more of a thing here still. Remember when mascots were everywhere? Remember when Mr. Clean was like more than just a picture on the bottle?

Actually, they might still use Mr. Clean. Mr. Steel your girl, man. They probably do. Do the chat. Dude, everything has a mascot here. And I kind of love it. I love it. Oh.

All right. I did like that in Japan, too, I would say. It was very cool. apparently Mr. Clean is still in the commercials and is CGI now I just haven't seen a TV commercial in yeah I'm not surprised all right what's this Linus search picture from Linus

for Wanshow last week I think this is this is probably safe to just screen oh hold on hold on hold on you I'm gonna double check and sanitize for you no no no hold on I need to see the

uh reliance with the phone dependent that's just a good good thing uh okay uh yeah let can you just cut out the um the search

the the start menu yeah part because this is this is notes from the fab tour that I was that I was recently on so I got some cool content for y'all

there you go nice what I'm doing what I'm doing overseas wait what the heck Don't worry about it Don't worry about it Don't worry about it Don't uncrop it

I guess That looks safe to me Don't uncrop it Don't me to share screen It looks like it's been solved Oh okay Yeah I'll tell the people What I'm doing here later

What? Okay There you go Just got really too careful Sorry Virus Replace the paint logo With

Last week Remember I was talking about Windows search being a giant piece of garbage, and then I couldn't replicate it on stream. And this time you typed in PIN and it came up with paint. Dude. Was there something- Changing my PIN, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Changing my PIN, which is what I was trying to do, is the 8th result. The eighth result, Luke.

Now I understand what they're trying to do Because the next time I did it The next time I did it after I clicked pin And like after I clicked that eighth result And then I tried to replicate this again It searched for pin So it's using user behavior But this shouldn't be the default

This is almost a brand new Windows install because that's why I was trying to set up the pin because I inherited this machine from someone who was working on labs testing for it or something like that so like this is not based on user behavior because they wouldn't have been using paint or pin P-I-N

and it didn't just like go here for a second and then like flip over you know how it'll do that sometimes where it's like it just hasn't caught up and it's changing no I typed P-I-N in search and it's like do you mean paint? Do you mean

Pinterest? Do you mean lots of slots casino games? Even command prompts is crazy. What are you talking about? Cash Frenzy? What is that? Why are cash

frenzy and lots of slots casino games above set up a pin why is anything from the store above a relatively close match from your apps or settings or files

just saying it's crazy and like look at all the wasted space on the right this gigantic paint icon in just a void of emptiness if you want to have a bunch

of ads put it there Don't put it anywhere It's actually unacceptable anywhere And that's fine That's a completely valid take And I agree But if you're going to have them Which they clearly are

Yeah Yeah Don't put them in the search results Put cash frenzy somewhere else And yes guys I am aware of open shell I'm aware But I genuinely

like to use windows in its in its stock form yeah we're trying to correct the stock experience which is the experience that the incredibly vast majority will have which is the problem that thing he said and we need to experience it in order to feel the righteous fury yes that we do right now yes it's important to experience it in that way it's also important that you as a power user don't have to that is cool i appreciate that that is awesome um but we need to not so that yeah everything that he said um okay the bionic eye we're kind of getting there we could maybe do the floping announcements now i think that'll be fine sure whatever you want all right oh wait was i going to tease what i'm doing here what are you doing there

what am i doing here do you know what oh like in the country yeah i do yeah go for it it, yeah, do it. That isn't the flip plane announcements, but just do it. I, I, oh, it's in floatplane announcements? It is, is, is in, is not. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. So I was in Japan for three days doing one of the coolest factory tours that I have ever done. This has been in the works for many months. I'm pretty jelly. And it will, it will probably be in the works for more months yet. There's certain things that we shot that I am hoping are going to make their way through the approvals process. It got all the way to the C.O. apparently, some of the stuff that we wanted to see. But we were in Keoxia's cutting edge fab, and we saw some stuff.

We filmed some stuff. We are working on a video. actually sponsored the video so it is very much they are this is actually a little bit of like 4d chess here doing these factory tours in a sponsored capacity is actually a powerful motivator for the brands to open up more and find a way when it comes to disclosing all the stuff I operate in exactly the same way that I would for a normal facility tour except that I will have like

like I do, I'll have my chunks where we kind of suck off the brand a little bit to make sure we get some talking points in there but in terms of the actual body of the content like I'll include stuff that I wouldn't normally care about you know like founded in this year like you guys don't care you want to see a cutting edge

fat you know what i'm saying but i but i worked that in i go found it in this year whatever right uh because that's how you get that's how you get into these places um you just got to you got to get on your knees a little bit that's all i'm saying and guys it was absolutely flipping incredible like have you ever seen luke like i think fundamentally you understand the concept of like dye stacking, right? Okay. But have you ever actually seen them? No.

Stacked and wired together. Did you even know that they use wire? No. Because the second you said wired together, I was like, hmm? See, I assumed that it'd be like some kind of through silicon, something. But no, no, the dyes are manufactured. and then they're stacked in a staircase structure so that one edge is exposed on all of them

and then they are wired down to the substrate individually. It blew my flipping mind, Luke. That's pretty wild. It blew my flipping mind. Yeah, like I just, yeah, wire bonding. Thank you, Batchelor gun. I had just never thought about it. Fundamentally, understood the concept of die stacking.

Yeah. but never really like never looked at a at a microscope picture of it never looked at the machinery that does it the gold wire was so thin that you could barely see it hanging down dude wire bonding is flipping wild um anyway so making these sponsored is a great way to get the brand just as invested as i am in getting the video over the line Um, like we went through this with, uh, with Intel back in the day where there, there was like, what, a three month, two month, three month gap between me doing the tour. Could a while. And us releasing the video. Yeah. As it made its way through all the approvals and all the, the challenges that go on with showing some of the most secretive and secure facilities on earth, right? And so, um, I have no doubt. And it's nothing against Intel. It's nothing against Keoxia. These are, these are big secrets. And these are very important.

you know, details that need to be worked out. So I have no doubt that it's going to take some time. But I also have no doubt that we are going to get this video out there for you guys and you're going to absolutely have your minds flipping blown. I'm so excited. And yeah, this is the best system that we've kind of found for doing these facility tours and getting everyone aligned on our goal of making the best possible, most comprehensive possible video.

Because I'll like, I'll turn it around on the, brand when I'm probably being too open right now because if anyone watches this they're going to recognize my strats right but I'll like I'll turn it around on the brand when we're working on approval to see something I actually pulled this move yesterday with a different brand where they basically go well we can't show that and I go well why am I here then what did you pay me for to to to show they're like well that's too cutting edge that's too that's too secret and I'm basically like right but the whole point of this like let's go back to the brief right the whole point of this was you guys wanted to show off your

cutting edge technology so why are you taking the cuttingest edges of it and you're telling me i can't shoot it in the i can't put it in the video this doesn't make any sense we need to escalate this right now like help me help you tell the story the best that that you can't you're you're smiling because you've probably heard me do it i've done it myself too but i i distinctly remember because the first experiences of this for me, which it might have been for you, I'm not sure, was Cherry and then Sennheiser. It's always the same, man. Yeah, I remember learning that there and then having to reapply it over and over again.

It's always the same. And like I get where they're coming from, but they're wrong. Yes. Like I remember Sennheiser specifically didn't want us to show the failed bins for their drivers. We were like, no, this shows that, like, you care that the product is going to be good and work. So it's going to show up appropriately. That matters and is going to resonate with the audience. They're like, no, but it looks bad because we like didn't do it perfectly every time.

We're like, no, that's not. Come on. That's not the point. I actually told that story yesterday. Yeah. I'm not surprised. No, I told that story a few days ago. I told that story a few days ago.

I had to tell a different story yesterday. But it is, they're real stories based on our very real experiences. Yeah. And the thing that I always remind these brands is you guys booked us. You guys booked us based on the factory tours you saw. You wanted us to tell your story the way we tell the story where we go in and we get into the grit and we talk about the real processes that are involved in building your products. We help people appreciate the challenge. that go into building these things, that go into creating the technology that we all love.

You brought me here. You paid good money for me to be here because you saw that. Well, guess what? When I made those videos, I went through all the same stuff that we're talking about right now. That video wouldn't get made if I wasn't having the same battles then that I'm having it with you right now. I need to film this step. It's literally every time, too. Like, it's, It's quite literally every single time. Yeah. And so I'm not singling anybody out because I totally understand it. It's everyone.

I mean, this is a, this is, it makes sense. Like, this is your business. This is your livelihood. Yeah. This is, that's what you're protecting, right? Like, the stakes are huge. I get it. It's like, it's like, it's like, watching someone jump off a diving,

board and do a really cool dive. You're like, I want to do that. And then you get up to the diving board, and you're like, uh, yeah, and then Linus has to convince you to jump and then it's fine. Yeah. And then you do it and then, you know, the viewers love it. Yeah. And at the end of the day, I mean, and this is one of the ones that I can, I have to go

through this one every time too, right? It's like, uh, especially when it comes to like, um, like blurring logos on machinery is always a funny one to me. Cause I'm like, brother, you know, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a widget Matron, right? The people on earth who even know what a widget matron, who have even heard of the company whose brand you're covering up, can recognize that machine from its profile and the positioning of the dials anyway. And the people who don't know what that brand is are not going to build a competing semiconductor fab. So what are we even talking about here?

Yep. And that's, that wouldn't be necessarily applicable to like a, to like a, to like a semiconductor machine because there's a high level of like customization that goes on in them. But for certain things, I did have to have this conversation very recently around something that was more of like a piece of scientific equipment where it is an off-the-shelf thing. And it's just like, well, it's a trade secret who makes that? I'm like, bro, in the scientific community where they know what these things are, how many people even make those things, for one thing? and then how hard would it be to go okay yeah it's that one from the product catalog

you're not you're not hiding anything from anybody um from anybody who would be able to do anything with the knowledge you're hiding it from people who wouldn't be able to do anything with the knowledge that you'd be arming them with by telling them the manufacturer of this of this piece of scientific equipment um and and and and like another funny one is like, you know, guys, people talk. And it's not me. It's not me talking. The industry is so inbred. People move around between companies all the time. Like if you imagine for a second, and I'm going to use an example that like isn't a real one. So I'm not calling anybody out here. But like if you imagine for a second, your special, you know, idea for a bracket to cable

manage a tube is like not in everybody else's fab that they're all. also keeping super secret from you. You gotta be kidding yourself. Like it's, I'm sorry. Like it's the basic stuff like that. Like the actual details, you know, the proprietary chemical mixtures and stuff like that, totally understand.

Yeah, don't tell me that. I don't even wanna know that. I don't wanna be armed with knowledge that could be so damaging to your business. Yeah. But some of the, some of the little details, like the way we position that warning label. It's like, bro, come on, man.

got to be kidding me right now and and the funny thing is a lot of the time it's it's not even on them like it's not keoxia's fault some of the things that you know they need to get legal approval for sometimes it's their partners being yeah it's their partners being totally irrational it's like you're you're not allowed to disclose that we use a you know a hex head on our bolts to secure this piece of equipment there there were details and i'm not throwing them under the bus like genuinely uh i think they were just doing exactly what they needed to do on the intel tour there was details that we were not allowed to share about the tour that we did because of the brand partners that they were working with and then Lucas found videos from those brand

partners on YouTube that had those details in them we're just like wait what like what are you talking about oh man oh well and it's just you know I don't know PR people going to PR. Yeah, and it's easier to say no. Yep. So I totally get that. It's lower friction internally. Nobody ever got fired for saying, no, you can't disclose that. Right? Yeah. But, you know, we don't achieve anything that way, right? And so I'm just, and so I just, I want to take a moment here after my ranting, right, to appreciate the companies that try, that that try to open up the doors and and give us this insight into into what they're doing like i i was i'm hugely respectful even though it's pulling teeth every time i i have enormous respect for companies like

keogsia and intel and cherry and anyone else that we kind of named and didn't shame we're not shaming them here for trying to do this in the best way that they possibly can it's super cool and it's something that otherwise, just a small hands full of people on earth would ever get a chance to see and experience. And you know, as someone who just believes in the sharing of knowledge and education,

I appreciate that they are trying to do better. So I'm super cool. And I'm really excited for you guys to see that facility tour. I was blown away by yesterday. So yesterday was high sense.

when i when we got the invite and i was like okay but like is it like a panel fab do you guys do your own like panel technology and they're like no it's not panels it's just like the tv itself i was like eh is that going to be that interesting luke don't miss this video High Sense Factory Tour There were a couple things that unfortunately No matter how hard I pushed I wasn't able to get them to show you And one of them is not going to sound that cool

It basically It's like in real time A computer animation With like kind of transparency and stuff Of the entire production line I'm allowed to describe it But I wasn't allowed to shoot it that shows all the machines, all the automations on this over 70% automated factory line that takes the TV from constituent parts, from the screws and cables and panel and backhousing and glue, like all of all the constituent parts and assembles them, had them all operating in real time with various efficiencies and operational telemetric data.

so that they can proactively perform maintenance so cool and that kind of like factory automation yeah that's really cool toolkit stuff is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily expect someone who's more just like nuts and bolts hardware to care about but it was like mind blowing

a lot of stuff that's it's incredibly important to them because you have to keep margins down right up but yes yeah that one and and efficiency was such a major story they had this machine

that automated like a glue application step that they were boasting saved them 9% on glue and I was like right at the volume you guys are operating at the volume you guys are operating at

even if it's a dollar worth of glue that's nine cents a unit just like that boom that machine pays for itself dude the level the level of automation on this thing oh PC master raise says how the heck is an automated line profitable for a specific model of display you're going to love this video dude it really puts some perspective the volume of consumer electronics that are being shipped because yes the entire line

that we are watching running the way that it is is one model of TV that's being produced right now And the automation of it is absolutely incredible. Like, it wasn't that long ago that I was here in China touring the One Plus factory and them telling me, yeah, screws are still too hard. Dude, almost nothing is too hard now. Like, it's 70% now, 71% now. And there were multiple steps that still had humans working on them, that they were like, yeah.

And we are in active development automation. this as well and not only does it save cost but they're like yeah the quality is dramatically better um like like markedly better it's it's going to be it's going to be a pretty it's going to be a pretty cool video that's there was something else i was going to say but oh yeah right right right yeah mew mew actually nailed it so we finally find out how TVs are getting cheaper yeah like we're gonna get to see how deep a company like high sense is digging to find the savings to make TVs like the one of the only categories of consumer product right now that is seemingly inflation proof somehow you guys will get to see it and it will blow your

flipping mind that's i'm i'm jenny really quite excited. I love the like, man, I wish how it's made was still a thing. And I know there's like some sort of derivatives, but there was, there was something pure about how it's made that was just so great. But I love seeing that type of stuff. I'm very into it. Oh, I was using a LED factory kind of how it's made type thing, no music, no talking as test audio for today's show. Oh, really? There's like so much cool stuff on YouTube that's like, even better than how it's made. And a lot of it comes out of these hyper-automated factories.

It's super awesome. Maybe I just need to go find those. Yeah, it's a different algorithm. One battle, speaking of automation, that I had to have with High Sense, was showing the human steps. They didn't want to show the human steps. And I was like, bruh, no, we're showing the human steps. Because this video is, it's not how it's made, the TM, but it's how it's made.

We want to, we can't, I can't walk into, I can't do the intro of this video, say it's 71% automated and then not show a single human working. I'm so much more interested if I see the human steps too because I know that the people there are heavily incentivized to automate things. So then, then I'm trying to think and go, okay, how would they automate this still remaining step? And why is it so difficult? Because if they're making a whole thing to save 9% of glue, then they clearly would love to, but it's, it's so. difficult. So, like, it's, it's, that makes it so much more interesting. Yeah, PC Master Rays says didn't turn up for 71% of a TV. And that's exactly, like, that's exactly the line that, that I'll, that I'll pull with these guys. It's like, I wouldn't

have flown here if you weren't going to show me the whole thing. You got to understand. We're, we're doing the whole thing. And you just, you got to be, you got to be, you got to be firm. Because at the end of the day, it's, it's for their own good. But, but I understand, you know, I understand why it's so tough. And it's just, it's part of the content creation process, man. It's just part of, uh, it's part of learning how to work together, learning how to move forward. And again, massive, massive credit to everyone we're working with on this trip.

So we hit Kyoxia already. We hit high sense already yesterday. And then we're going to do Huawei in a couple of days. And, um, actually, Luke, you might be kind of into the lab that we're going to there. I was not a hundred percent sold on it because I know that like health Tech is not always what resonates the most with our audience. But, dude, the health tech lab they have, I don't even care if it gets like 300,000 views or whatever. I just wanted to see it.

They have like an like a like an, they have like an in place swimming pool. They have a bike track apparently that like goes around their facility. Like they. Did you get to do the tests? I haven't gone yet, but I'm going to. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. So I'm going to actually, like, get hooked up.

Dude, benchmarking Linus? Yeah, use the health lab that they use to, like, create the sensors for, like, smart wearables and stuff. Like, it's going to be, I got benchmarks. I'm really excited. I'm so excited, dude. It's going to be awesome. In, I was going to make an insolviate Russia joke, but, yeah, in somewhere, benchmark, benchmarks you or something. Yeah, anyways.

Exactly. Um, okay Can't wait Okay, what were we supposed to be doing? Oh, hey, whoa, uh, if you want, if you don't want spoilers, because you're, you're TiVoing the game or whatever, then don't, um, don't listen to me for the next, uh, five seconds,

but, um, hey, Jay's win. Game one, let's go. Oh, hey! Nice. Yeah. I've actually got a merch message about that. Maybe we do that now. Sure.

Uh, hello DLL, game one of the world. series just started any baseball fans here also this new t-shirt design is incredible please continue with designs like this um i the last time i followed baseball for real john olorood played for the blue jays and Ken Griffey Jr. was like the league superstar. I have a peripheral interest in most major sports enough to kind of know who, you know, the people are. I know the rules of baseball pretty well. I played baseball as a kid.

But I haven't really like followed, followed since the last time the Jays were contenders. They're Canada's only team. Yeah, Canada is big bad wagging right now. most i know almost no canadians that watch or care about baseball pretty much at all some people like lina said might know some of the players names and like we'll watch a game here or there if there's nothing else really on and i'm sure people from like the local city care uh but most of canada is not that tuned in except for for sure right now like everybody is in

which is fun whatever sometimes it's neat to jump on a bandwagon it is what it is you know what and i think it's i think it's good i think it's good for i think it's good for the sport too because probably like think about it they've been calling this the world series for all this time and there's only one team that's not from that's not from america so i think it makes sense that you have to have a team from another country win it every once in a while otherwise you're just going to have to change the name yeah well no you can't call it the world series they just need to compete they wouldn't have to win they just need to compete i guess that's true Well, for a long time, they didn't compete, and now they are.

Yeah. So, no, it looks like fun. I got to say, baseball is probably my favorite sport to watch. I'm maybe not favorite, but among. It's, like, very high. I don't like watching, I can't watch a baseball game. It's too long, and there's too much downtime for me to, to, like, be focused on it. But highlights.

I love baseball highlights. It's, like, one of my favorite sports to just binge highlights of because... Some of them are great. It feels like the athleticism, like they are, because of the pay in baseball, like, oh, man, what's his name, Shohei, got like a $700 million contract or whatever it was. That's wild. By the way, that guy just looks like if you genetically engineered, like, Chad, human. Yeah, wild. Anyway, the point is, these are some of the best athletes in the world because the money's there, right?

So if you are, if you are literally a world-class athlete that can. could play any game you want. Baseball would be a super high candidate. But they spend most of the time standing or like sitting in a dugout. So when they do move, man, wow. Everything we got. It's easy to look at a baseball game in progress where 95% of the players are literally not doing anything and go like, you know, this is boring. You know, any, any fat white dude could do this.

you know why why why can't my uncle just my uncle could have thrown a better pitch than that you know it's easy to to couch you know what what what what are they called just like couch warrior it or whatever right but then the things they do damn incredible love it love it okay speaking of loving the things that they do let's do armchair quarterback that's the one let's do the full pay announcement Dan, do you have the doc? I do. I don't understand this at all. I've read it like four times, and I think either AI did this or Sammy just derped.

I believe you have to guess the prompt. Not me, though. Linus. Right, but then how is it a competition? I don't know. If I can guess it, I win, and if I can't guess it, you win. But there's like points and stuff. I don't know.

I don't know what we're talking about. Anyway, Riley and I, as in me directly, tried out the new SORAT2 app and discovered just AI content, and discovered just AI content affecting social media on Tuesday. The video is now out, but I thought we'd play a fun game with Linus. You're going to watch the video and guess the prompt. Dan will decide if you're close enough for the point. The winner, bragging rights as in every competition. Dan, please play video one.

Okay. Okay, just a second. I'm trying to keep these lanes clear. Thank you. Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic, but it's for a reason. Our neighborhood's only public badminton courts are about to get turned into a parking lot. These games built. What do you think the prompt was? I'm supposed to guess the prompt? Yeah. Okay. Um, okay. Protester. Protester at Rally. to save our community's badminton courts get support from Mark Cuban I will say I mean Pretty pretty close actually Yeah I mean I would give that to him I would also give that to him maybe I'll give him a ding

I will so I will I will also say I think like pretty much every time The person is named I would still give that to you But pretty much every time we tried to name the person Oh This time I will say it gave us a like We can't recreate

them so I just reference like effectively who they were so it could guess it pretty easily but the person is supposed to be specific you knew Mark Cuban that one was made old who was the okay can I see the other one I didn't notice the other one was a person was it Sam Holman again

mm-hmm just a second I'm trying to I don't think you'll get this yeah I'm that guy stopping traffic but it's for a reason our neighborhood's only public badminton courts no I don't know who that is I didn't think you would because that was supposed to be you I originally typed

Linus Sebastian and then it was like we can't do that we can't recreate that person so I said the main host from Linus Media Group and it it spat out that okay so question for you and we're going to go off topic a little bit here I think sure but it's sort of on topic yeah because you have to opt in as an influencer yeah to have your yourself should I opt in no no I want to I want, to be clear, I haven't opted in, obviously. Do you want the argument? Is that what you said? Yeah, I want to have the conversation.

Because some people are, right? Yeah, we have some of them in here. We, I won't name them. I almost just did. I mean, Mark Cuban is one though. Yeah. And you kind of like get something. Like if you notice, Dan, if you go to the end of that clip,

if you can bring it back up and go to the, go to like the very end. Yeah. He got that included. So there's like a little URL. I, I don't know if it's. if it's a condition or what played again i couldn't posit on it sure folks just a second i'm trying to keep these plants thank you yeah i'm that guy stopping traffic but it's for a reason our neighborhoods only

public badminton courts are sorrah pretty quick no no no no right there it's come yeah right there plus drugs got it right so that's part of his thing and as far as my understanding goes you can get like a thing that comes along with your likeness and that's his thing other people have other So you could do like LTT store. Maybe. Right. But I mean, we just got him protesting for badminton courts. So you might, people could make you do things so you don't necessarily want to do.

Do you want to promote people doing that? Because like when we were doing this, I didn't actually intend for him to be in that at all. I accidentally fat fingered. Mark Cuban. Yeah. I accidentally fat fingered his, there's like tags above the input field. And I was trying to do something else and I accidentally bumped it. And then when we watched the video and he was in it, we were like, what?

And then we looked back at the. prompt and we saw that he was tagged in it. So it's like, it promotes you using these people that have given their likeness over to the app. That's pretty wild. I just, I think, especially right now, until we get better things figured out over like the laws around likeness and stuff, it's better to just hold on to it for now. Well, see, me, I feel like this is quite short-sighted.

I mean, I'm not going to claim to have a better long-term, vision than Mark Cuban. He's obviously been very successful. Let's hear. Let's finish watching some of these before you keep commenting. Hold on. Let me just finish this one thought. But I feel like I feel like right now the strongest argument that I could come up with for allowing it would be, it's pretty obvious that it's still fake, so it doesn't really matter. I don't think anyone's, hold on, I'm going to get there. Like, I

I don't think it, I don't think anyone would actually think that, you know, Linus is promoting cat and dog breeding. You know, let's let's go with like, you know, an end times thing. Sure, sure, sure, sure. The cats are mating with the dogs, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one would actually think that. So, so maybe, maybe it doesn't matter.

And all publicity is good publicity. That's the best argument that I could think of. And then that coupled with, well, people are going to make it anyway, so I might as well, I might as well, I might as well, I might as well have a hand in controlling my destiny that people are going to do this anyway. Like, not even that. I just mean like, like, I might as well, it's better to be complicit in your own being used than fighting it and, no, no, no, I'm not saying these are good arguments. I'm saying these are probably the best. I hear you. Devil's advocate arguments that I could come up with. But the problem is that both of them are kind of easy to...

I think it's just relevance. I think it's just relevance. I think you... This cultural relevance is the biggest argument? I think you want your likeness to be on that scrollable thing right on top of the prompt all the time being relevant to everyone. And like the one of the Paul brothers or maybe both of them, them were on there.

Clearly, Mr. Cuban, some other people, like, there's, I think they're trying to stay in the zeitgeist. That being said, in my opinion, I don't, it doesn't really feel like that many people are using the app. I noticed Sam Altman has 60,000 followers. And a, a video, a SORA video that went omega viral on Twitter and ended up making someone over a grand in like Twitter prime money or whatever that is. Yeah.

had like a few hundred likes on SORA I don't think people actually care It's just a garbage slop app That no one really uses It's just morbid curiosity And then they go away But anyways, should we do number two? PC Master Rays here says

Yeah, but like imagine your brand being associated with some f-d-up AI video And I feel like we're headed into I feel like we're headed into a level of like disconnection from what we're seeing and assumption of things not being real that I don't know if like brand association is even going to be a thing anymore

I don't think if I don't know if it's going to matter I think if everyone just assumes that everything's fake Japan will care it's going to go the way the keyboards it'll go a lot faster than the keyboards all right all right let's do the second one I'm sorry I just thought this was I thought this was an interesting conversation all right so my that's hilarious dan killed dan killed sir um right here no i mean but i can't anymore so he might

have to go oh okay uh he's dead ability to can is uh is no more for the moment yeah you can stay right there okay let the next one so yeah apparently he said so people can volunteer their likeness uh and there are some craters on here if you want to look but i fat fingered mark cuban which is a fun accident. That's my little prompt there. And this one says, Linus, if you get this right, that'd be amazing because it's not what you think. Okay.

Sammy! Are you ready? Yeah, I'll play it. Let's see. That's so good. Perfect amount of sauce. Cheers to whoever made this. I will say. I was pretty impressed at how good that one was, actually.

not at doing what the prompt said but just the video itself was like surprisingly good I think they've really trained of Will Smith Yeah I think they've really trained on spaghetti No no that was my guess

Oh no Okay Because like a kind of nerdy white guy Compared to like a cool less white guy Seems like the opposite of Will Smith Who do you think the nerdy white guy is Oh can I see Do you want to play it again?

Sure Yeah that slurp was unsettling If you can mute the audio, that'd be great. Otherwise, it's... Turn it up. Why would you do that? Why would you do that? It's not a real slur.

It looks like a cross between me and Austin Evans. Watch it again. Watch it again. Play it again. Okay. Play it again. Okay, sorry. I actually need him to listen to it, but not the slurp. So can you crank just when he's talking?

Yeah. control. Just play the slip. I don't care. That's so good. Perfect amount of sauce. Cheers to whoever made this.

Oh, okay. So it's supposed to be my voice, I guess. Okay. What if I told you it's not supposed to be your voice, but everyone immediately flagged it is supposed to be your voice and just kind of done poorly.

But it's also not supposed to be you. Who do you think it is? I don't know. Someone's name was put in, and your voice came out of it. Because I thought this was kind of fascinating. This blew my mind. It's another dude. I have no way of guessing this.

So the prompt was, do I go for it? Yeah, go for it. Do you think he got it? No, I don't know. The prompt was Luke Lafranier eating spaghetti. And my voice came out? Your voice came out. So I'll read the prompt, because this was my theory, but I'll read the prompt.

The theory of why it sounded like Linus is every time I'm Googling you appear. Sammy, what did you write? Every time Sammy Googles Luke. If you Google me, you show up. There you go. I'm going to do this right now. sort of the first four hits are your Twitter profile your LinkedIn your YouTube and your Instagram people also search for you're always number one the like second photo that I see is

you and me fail fist bumping from forever ago what okay my search does not find I switched over to images and it is literally I got shoot okay this is this is this is Is this Joel? Yeah. It's my Twitter, but it's Joel. Yeah. I know what picture you're talking about. I have Joel before I have you.

My entire front page not only does not contain any pictures of me, but it doesn't even contain any pictures of you and me. What the heck? That's weird. Not one. I'm going to send this to you. I'm going to send this to you right now because I feel like I'm saying a thing that people are... Okay, well, I've had this experience before where when I,

when I Google myself for whatever reason, it's pretty common that you or, you know, Linus Media Group or LTT or something like that comes up, right? So I think it tried to grab whatever estimation it could of my voice, but it had so much more training of your voice that it just made your voice. And it doesn't have very good training of what I look like. So it's just generic white dude with a beard. And it just sent it. yeah dude even my second page only has me on it twice and in both cases i am with you in one case i have

my head on your oh no that's what i mean that's what i mean like we we would be together i don't i don't mean it just comes up with just you so this is the first one you sent where is it yeah yeah that joel one comes up all the time for me that's a clean result that is actually and mine was the same i've done it before where where you definitely came up weird maybe something was going on at that time and then this is the second one oh wow like we've got you and me i think that's the scrapyard wars fist bump or something over on the right there i forget the context of that i forget i remember that photo but i don't i don't remember why i think it was specifically something to do with way and show but i don't remember what for

I mean that's that's a decade ago so who knows okay prompt number three are you ready the Sammy's writing says final prompt winner takes all so focus up which is true he had no idea of knowing he had no way of knowing that would be true

but that is true because it's it's tied so far I guess um so yeah Dan play it hey that's my homework you just ate it so that's why I don't have the paper my laptop literally ate it last night your laptop ate it I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it, teeth and everything. That's the first.

Okay, so I-Justine is involved. Yep. So, yeah. You have to try to guess the, yeah, there you go. Why is the pig there? Okay, I want to see it one more time. Okay. I think I can preemptively explain the pig.

Hey, that's my homework. You just ate it. So that's why I don't have the paper. My laptop literally ate it last night. Your laptop ate it? I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it. Teeth and everything. That's the first tree.

Actually, no. I won't explain the pig. Okay, so obviously the prompt is going to involve a student explaining to their teacher that their laptop ate their homework. Their teacher is I Justine. So, okay, okay, student, students, hmm, students' laptop eats their homework. they I don't know

I don't care I mean you got it effectively I'm gonna give you the dopamine for that one yeah I mean I think he got it it's make a realistic depiction of a computer eating a students and then in brackets

Carter PC's homework the student then needs to explain to their teacher I Justine I think there was more text than that but it just ends there that's Carter PC is a shorts creator you don't watch short stuff all good

and then i justine which you guessed make sense they both have their likeness in the app and it recreated both of them quite well just like it recreated mark Cuban quite well um how did the pig figure into it we're pretty sure that that is i justine's inclusion thing ah you know how mark Cuban had the the link

we're pretty sure it's it's her inclusion thing I don't know what to call that but I think she has one of those she does have a pig yeah she has a pig and it's it and it only shows up when she's on screen it doesn't show up when Carter's on screen

so it like it it's it's probably that that's what that's what our speculation is yeah we did more prompts some of them are hilarious uh in my opinion my favorite one isn't even in these three I made all my I made all my videos have a pig in them

ha ha two weeks ago yeah there you go uh so that makes sense i didn't i didn't know that that was like officially true i just it made made a lot of sense um but yeah we we did a bunch of stuff it was with riley i was handed with riley we had a fun time there's a 40 minute video of that on on lmgggg slash flow plane go check that out it's fun we make some fun videos we crash out about the the doom and gloom of the future it's good stuff um and yeah thoughts if i'd like vibe coded yeah i mentioned that the the app felt vibe coded because the app was just so junk. There's a lot of really bad user experience flows and other weird stuff that happen when you try to use it. It's not a very good app. How about some good AI news?

Sure. Yeah. YouTube's likeness detection tech has officially launched. They're rolling this out to eligible creators in the YouTube partner program and the technology is designed to prevent people from having their likeness misused by identifying and managing AI generated content featuring the likeness of creators such as their face and their voice. This process does require

providing a photo ID and a brief selfie video but with the tool creators can view all detected videos and submit a removal request or they can make a copyright request and they can opt out of using the technology at any time. And YouTube will stop scanning for videos 24 hours after they do so um it's not perfect obviously but i've got to give

google credit here for doing something what is the agreement it's taken too long it's taken too long like mr beast hawking you know penis enlargement pills has been happening for far too long with just a i generated slop videos of jimmy and stuff like that but this is is this is something yeah i um oh i was a big fan of this and then hearing you say it out loud raised some warning flags you mentioned the the process requires providing a photo ID in a brief selfie video i don't really understand why they need that if you remember the partner program unless this is also giving them permission to use it well i don't know if i don't know if youtube specifically has given me reason to go that tinfoil hat they haven't

for me either but again why would they need it um it might be easier to train off of it might be a standard duration thing or something yeah i mean we're working on a deep fake thing right now for a a video that they the labs team asked me like even though there's obviously lots of training data for me uh the labs team asked me to like do this and do this and like it does make it easier yeah um are you gonna do it a YouTuber is like me oh I'm gonna do it 100% yeah yeah no question I mean it's it's something the SORA thing is like a hard obvious no in my opinion and this is a pretty obvious. Yes, as long as there isn't anything super freaky

in the turns of service or whatever. Okay, cool. Thank you, YouTube. Coffee table book of iconic phones, huh? Yeah. You've got to carry it from there. There are no notes. Oh, okay.

Hold on, let me just bring up my notes. Okay There you go Phone Arena Reached out Good Lord A minute ago When when was this

Back in March No it must have been earlier than that Hold on Phone Arena Check my emails Blipipipipipip Wow was it really only that long ago

Okay Well apparently it was only in March. Wow, they turned this around really fast. Anyway, phone arena reached out because they wanted to do like a table book of like iconic phone designs.

They didn't really ask for much. They just asked like, you know, hey, oh, in October of 2024, so a year ago. They were like, hey, here's a brief outline of what we want to do. We want to tell the story of some of the most iconic phones

kind of recreate their impact. Um, we have some amazing other creators on board. Do you have some time to chat? Um, I basically said, yeah, I'm not like a huge design nerd, but I did use some of the phones that they had identified as like, iconic. And I'd love to, I'd love to help, you know, in some way if I can. And they basically said, uh, yeah, if you could kind of tell us the story of the phones you selected, um, they asked for just like short little quotes. It took me a really, really. embarrassingly long time to get back to them. I feel really bad about that. Sorry, Yavor. My bad. But they reached out earlier this month to say,

hey, pre-orders for the book are supposed to be going live soon. And if you want a commission link or anything like that, then we can do that. I basically said, I don't really need the money that badly. So you guys can do, you can just kind of do your thing.

Um, but I will, but I'll be happy to promote it anyway. And so that's, that's what we're doing. Uh, there, let me just see if I can find the link. Da da da da da da da da da da da da where, where do I go? Sorry, I'm trying to figure it out because I want to actually, I want to actually find the link. Maybe it's just on the phone arena website. Here, let's have a look. Uh, iconic phones book, news maybe?

I'm going to try news. Oh, I really hope Oh, here it is, here it is, here it is Sign up to get updates And an early bird discount I'll link it I have no idea how much it costs I don't know what all else is in it

It says it ships fall 2025 And It involves quotes and stories And insights from Austin Evans Brandon Butch John Rettinger Linus Tech Tips Max Tech, Mr. Who's the Boss, SuperSaf, and Jerry, Rig, Everything, which I think, I don't know, it's a pretty cool little project. I just thought it was neat, so I wanted to provide what little contribution I could. Dan, if you don't mind copying the link into the other spots, that's it. That's pretty much all I have to say about that. Hopefully it's cool, and you guys appreciate the kind of the photography and the little quotes and stuff, and it's a table book for people who like table books and also like

phones. Speaking of liking things. Sure, yeah, good segue. I love it. Okay, nice. I wasn't sure if you were trying to say someone or not. There's a massive play. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What if, do you like Doritos, Linus? Do I like Doritos? Are you into Doritos? Probably more than I should be. Do you like guns? I try not to eat them. I try not to. Oh

Okay Which one is it I can't tell Do you like Doritos or guns You clearly like one of them That's wild dude I mean Ah wow

Man What a terrifying experience that would be to have Because it's effectively getting swatted So there's a chance that you get unalived because AI mistakes your favorite snack as a firearm. Fun fact. Yeah. I mean, you never know when, and like, you never know when a trigger-happy responding agent is going to. Somebody's going to figure out how to visually hijack AIs, visually trick them into thinking something's happening and make this happen as a.

form of attack i can pretty much guarantee it hasn't happened yet but it will i promise you we don't have a lot of notes here it's just rough pug boy 1321 asks the real question here in floatplane chat would nobody check the footage first before going in armed like how much time do you have is this a school shooting do you want to spend time rewinding the tape and looking for stuff willing spy says apparently it was more on the principal p a l it was flagged by a i turned away by the person in charge

the principal said oh no call the cops oh man cops would have seen the footage there's a Discussion question here with no sources, no topics, no talking points, et cetera. Should LNG become an ad agency? Oh, let's save that for later. All right.

Not talking about that. Xbox wants... Okay, fine, we can just do it now. Colton has discussed on multiple occasions farming out our biz team essentially to other creators. Do you think that there's like a value in that? Yes. I know multiple that would want to join turns out

most people don't start making YouTube videos about things that they're extremely interested in, often autistically interested in, because they want to do business things and they would prefer those things are just handled for them. I don't know, maybe we just should then.

I don't know, going through processes like factory tours, right? instance the perfect example of something that no conventional agency could possibly understand but we have experience with all this kind of stuff you mentioned not even that long ago that a a different form of agency than the agency we would be making mentioned that we are really nice to work with because we like get it and have been doing it forever there is a certain level of experience and expertise that we can bring to the table that some people need does everyone need it no that's fine but there are people out there that we

would love to work with us on this and why deny them it's not like we have to force so here's a question for you here's a question for you and it's one that i don't know if it has a cut and dried answer we have a pretty hard stance for instance on um gambling ads right so what if we're working with a creator that doesn't have a hard stance on gambling ads and that's their that's their personal compass right like i'm um i'm i'm i'm not i'm not generally going to give people a hard time if they need to need to make money and you know that's uh that's within their sort of bounds or whatever i i don't i don't like it um but you know in general i'm not going to just like go on stream blasting other creators for working with better help or working with you know

gambling or or alcohol or whatever right tobacco and alcohol like all the stuff that we kind of have our lines on right um so if that creator if if a brand reaches out to work with a creator that we represent and they're a brand that works in a vertical that we choose not to be involved in um let's go with something more i shouldn't say more socially acceptable because gambling is perfectly socially acceptable at this point these days yeah big time like functionally every adult that I know consumes alcohol in some form or another so um long range high five yeah we we yeah I'm sorry that's I didn't mean we don't like you and me I wasn't going for like a thing I just meant like um but we don't generally advertise that yeah

yeah we don't work with alcohol companies not not generally like we just don't and uh but like I don't I don't have like a moral objection to alcohol. Like, I don't care. Other people can drink alcohol. It's just not interesting to me. And so, you know, where's the line? Because we've made a decision as LMG not to profit from, you know, alcohol, right? But if this agency, if we start up this agency, I don't think we'd be a very good agency.

if we started inserting our own values, if we put our own values in between a legal transaction between two other parties. I mean, this is something we've talked about extensively. Yeah, with like MasterCard and Visa and all those guys. In my opinion, and I've said this on Wancho, like a bazillion times, to be honest, is, you know, there's that whole,

there's no ethical consumption under capitalism thing. There's also, there are too much. many things to fight for. And like, I have my things that I will and won't do, which I think makes the world better, or I vote with my wallet in certain ways. But I don't necessarily expect other people to do the same. And I generally assume that they have their own versions of that, which might be a little bit different than mine. So you say no to gambling. Someone else might say no to animal products. Um, yeah. dead yeah i i admit i love animals and i use animal products and eat animals without really even thinking

about it yeah so like i will say dude i was i was at the mall last night and they had dog they had puppies in cages and i was like my heart was breaking so i have my animal lines too i'm so glad that that's illegal in canada now um yeah anyway sorry but like what i'm saying is it's it's i don't think I deeply respect that we set our own lines and I expect that they would set their own lines and in this case I don't think it's our place really to decide where their lines are for them. That's how I would personally try to approach it.

There are potentially certain things that could be just hard nose. I don't know that I even want to discuss those right now but there there might be certain things where it's just like that's just actually deplorable for anyone at any point any time um we've talked about uh we've talked about like on float plane for instance you know if they're if we ever were approached by like an adult creator for instance um we have firearms creators on float plane and that's something that i know can be a very polarizing yeah uh topic and but it's because we're trying to be a

platform right like it's a it's a yeah it's a different thing but i is it like hold on a second because if we are not saying it's different thing than the business thing i'm saying it's kind of the same thing as business thing i'm saying it's a it's a different thing than us doing it ourselves um yeah yeah like it's uh and we you and i when when we talked about it what we basically settled on is if it is legal in the jurisdictions of everyone involved it's not our place to make a moral judgment on the content of another content creator. And I think this is something that, you know, any normal company would never talk about this on a live stream.

Like that's the thing that I think a lot of people in the chat right now are maybe missing here. We will get crap for this. I promise. Is that if we decide, you know, to go forward, with this with you know this sort of agency work or whatever else if we didn't talk about it today you would never have noticed like name a single advertising agency that linus media group has ever worked with you can't because you don't know you have no way of knowing you know that we've worked with max borges for instance you just would have no way of knowing that the agency has

nothing to do with the the finished product um that you're ultimately going to see on your screen on, you know, some other creators, uh, video, right? Like, it just doesn't work like that. Um, I just thought it was a very interesting conversation and it's something that, um, you know, I was chatting with Colton about. It's something that I've talked to Taryn about. It's something that I wanted to talk to you about and this kind of gives me an opportunity in a forum like this where people can kind of see the thought processes and they can, they can get some insight into how you know how we operate as a business and how businesses and creators operate more broadly um so the agency would work with us and we would have our own lines and

it sounds like what you're saying is basically um you know at the end of the day what's legal is not up to the platform to decide which is a position that we've advocated for publicly multiple times and I really do see that put your money where you mouth is to a certain degree I see the I see the game platform um credit card processing arguments very similarly but I will say that like here's a here's a reason yeah can I be edgy for a sec you can be as edgy as you want I mean it's your uh it's your funeral right what if it's biking funeral specifically what you have you have children what if it's a what if you know you know how there was like uh man what's that is it weird that i'd want to be the one that hits the boat like i would be trying really hard i suspect

you all would be which is like part of why it's so sick uh anyways sorry sorry i got off topic a little bit like it's nothing personal man like i don't you know no that's dope that's like the whole I don't even take that negatively. That's freaking sick. I don't even think of taking that negatively, to be honest, until you said it's nothing personal. Okay, so remember Raid Shadow Legends was like an ad for freaking everyone all the time everywhere for years.

It might even still be. What if there was like a lully game? Are they a thousand years old? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. They're like 10,000-year-old space goddesses or something. Might have to deal with this. Because what I'm saying is there might still be lines,

but they might be pretty far out there. And like where the hell do you draw this line? Like the first thing people started talking about in floatplane chat is Genshin. like no yeah I would take an ad for Genshin impact like but are there absolutely scantily clad ladies that you have to justify as being a thousand years old probably I actually don't know I've not I've not played Genshin Impact

I didn't it's the first thing people said I haven't heard of it as I haven't played it either but I haven't heard of it as one of those types of games the scantily cladness yeah but the them being looking like you Youngens. Oh, well, that one's not scantily clad, though. In the cover art, I'm going to bring up the cover art.

In the cover art, there are scantily clad ones, but this one's not scantily clad. Yeah, hold on. Here, here's a Reddit thread. Dan, do you want to throw this up? Not scantily clad, fortunately, which is the only reason that I'm willing to put this on stream. but definitely young yeah

but if they're like who cares if they're not scantily clad right I think maybe I mean I don't know what you do in the game there's all kinds of ways to sexualize

romance in the game I've no idea I've no idea of the game works I've never played I've never played icky yeah definitely

icky definitely legal there's apparently no romance in the game okay helps a little bit it's not a negative here's the question though

here's the question though because as soon as we start to make a judgment on Genshin then we've drawn our line uh-huh but as a platform it's not about our line it's legal's legal lines yeah because as soon as you take a stance now it's a conversation every single time yep so i think you kind of have to say like we are

we don't think this you know it let's assume the thing we forget genchen forget whatever else let's assume the thing that we're talking about is something that we strongly oppose we could say Let's just go with gambling Sure Let's go with gambling And we do that right So we could say on our platforms

And do often That we don't like gambling And we don't think it should be able to be Promoted in the way that it is at the very least Yeah I mean time in place for everything If you and the boys want to have a poker night or whatever Far be it from me to be involved in that The fact that that used to be illegal is wild

I agree And I've said before that I actually I really respect John Martin's form of gambling because he knew that he had the potential to go too far so would bring a fixed amount of money and he would bring a fixed amount of money that could afford him it would be equivalent of going to like dinner in a show right movie and dinner

and he'd get dinner there probably that the healthiest relationship with gambling absolutely person I've ever made I saw literally zero issue with it and I'm traditionally a person who dislikes gambling because when I worked at the bread factory dudes would get their checks go blow the entire check and not be able to make rent and be homeless when they made enough money to not be homeless because they'd blow it all at the casino,

which was terrible. Yeah. But there's a lot of people that can't moderate themselves when it comes of gambling. So that's where the problems are and my main issues with it is how it's advertised

and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. But we can talk about that on here and we can talk about how we don't like these other things, but when you are the when we're making these decisions for other people, we are effectively deciding law for them. And I don't think that's our place. Okay, well, I'll take that perspective. I'll take the, I'll take the perspective of

chat. There were some really good comments from chat. I think some of them, don't take this the wrong way, guys. I think some of them were a little unrealistic. This is, in this world, it's, it's, It's going to be pretty difficult for you to survive without interacting with any company that does things you disagree with. Yeah. And is that just sort of a defeatist crappy attitude? Sure. I would bet hard cash that you are doing that right now. And I don't even mean by talking to us, I mean the fact that this stream, if you're watching on Twitch, is part of Amazon.

The stream is your talking about. If you're watching on YouTube, is part of Google. Both of those companies are partnered with, like, thousands and thousands of other companies. Like, you can't necessarily get away from this stuff. It is deeply intertwined. Do you have literally anything in your house from Nestle? Likely. Do you even know?

Because there's all the, like, sub-companies and all that kind of stuff. I got caught with cat food. I didn't even know they made cat food. I would have had no idea. Nestle, really? Yeah. Yeah, you've told me about that. Yep.

Bonkers. Um, DJ Spark had a good, had a good comment though, you know, so long as it isn't illegal, we're willing to talk, but we won't force our staff to work with a company for you. So if no one on staff wants to touch it, you might have to look elsewhere for that particular production. I think that's a fair, a fair stance, you know, considering the, I kind of like that. You know, I dig that. Like, I think, I think there's ways that we can be, be more cool about it. We have precedence for that. When we were talking, we at one point in time, we, we were talking to an adult creator about joining float plane and they were they were pretty close to joining and i had to talk with all my staff at the time and it was like if you don't want to interact or deal with their content at all we'll find a way to make sure that you don't have to how do we sequester that how do we cloister this away yeah um and it was it was like figured out oh go ahead that's that's it basically i my pickup is in 15 minutes okay um whops Should we blast merch messages?

We should probably get through, well, okay, the Prima rice-sized bionic eye implant looks really cool. Roughly 200, roughly 22 million people in the United States have age-related macular degeneration, which can affect your vision. The device is 2mm square, and it can be placed beneath the retina during a two-hour procedure. After a month of healing, it can be activated and wirelessly connects to a video. camera mounted on augmented reality glasses that sends visual data to a tiny processor that uses AI to convert images to infrared patterns and can apparently significantly restore vision in more than 80% of 38 trial participants. That sounds really cool.

Incredible cool. Wanted to highlight that. There's some good news tech. And in other news, Xbox wants all your money. This is a follow up on the recent LTT video. Microsoft execs apparently have demanded 30% margin from the Xbox department. so that's 2x the industry average apparently Dev kits just got a 33% price increase

the ROG Xbox Ally X apparently runs better with Linux or I don't know if it's the X or the non-X but whatever and halos apparently coming to PS5 good luck Xbox wish you the best it's been a great run RIP brother let's try it do you want to hit me with a couple merch messages

before I have to go I wonder if there's a way for me to like I wonder if there's a way for me to like carry this around with me or something while I pack because I have not packed. Like, I intentionally tilted this up. So, like, this place is kind of a disaster area right now. You can't really see, like, my mess over there.

You can one-hand it. I believe in you. You can one-hand it. Let's just blast through some of these then. I'm a little tethered to things, you know? Speaking of tethered, are the new cables going to be cat-resistant? And when's the messenger bag coming? They will not be braided.

And from my experience, that's the main issue. It's going to be a huge thing. For cats and cables. Are you planning to use the GPD Win 5? Oh, yeah, a messenger bag. Is that coming? A messenger bag. Are we working on a messenger bag right now?

Ooh, that's a good question for Matthew. Do you mind, do you want to forward that to Matthew? Or is it too late to forward it if you've already curated it? Yeah, it's probably a bit too late now. I know there's people internally that are pushing hard for a messenger style bag. 930. I will make sure that they're aware of that. Are you planning to use the GPD Win 5?

the new game console thing um we have one oh we have one i'm still i'm still traveling with my ally actually got my ogy ally right there with the upgraded battery i haven't actually moved to the x i man i'm really 50 50 on the ergo it's really great for certain situations but it's really not what i'm used to and i'm very comfortable on the ally and i don't need the extra performance right now i'm playing final fantasy tactics so like okay whatever good lead in Chronicles. How is Final Fantasy Tactics? And are Luke and Dan going to play it? Wait, hold on. Win 5? Yes, I'm going to get it. And yes, Luke should play it. Maybe not. I don't know. It's not for everyone. I suspect I would like it actually, but it's very expensive right now. I'm waiting for a discount.

Oh, yeah. I have a lot of queued games in front of it. So I'm in no need of a game right now. I haven't been able to play games in like two months. So like literally at all. Literally wrecked. Yeah. I'm a proud father. Of a, yeah, and wrists. I'm a proud father of a one-month-old girl. What's the first video game you played with your first born, Linus? And have you heard of the Edison Motor now doing a hybrid big rig? Ooh. Yeah, that was my face.

That's super cool. That's awesome. That's a good idea. Are they local? Yeah, they're local. Yeah, they're in BC. Yeah, hell yeah. I still want to do a video with them.

We've got to get that going. Yeah. Um, first game, I played with my kids. Do a maternal election. Yeah, definitely not that. The first one I remember playing with my firstborn, like, not just him sitting in my lap while I played. The first one I remember playing with him was Towerfall. That's funny, because that's the first one I remember playing with him.

Yeah, that was fun. That was, uh, that was a lot of fun playing with you guys. Yeah. What's up, Linus, you talked ages ago about making more tools for the LTT brand, even if they're not innovative as we want LDD branded tools. Any updates? We're working on it. We're building a supplier network.

We're building better processes for bringing products to market in a more timely fashion. The engineering team is hard at work on many, many projects. And I see no reason why we couldn't become – actually, hold on. I see no reason why we couldn't become a tool brand. I think they, I think we're learning a lot. We've made some, we've made some mistakes. I think we're, but yeah, no, I think we've learned a lot. And I think that we can apply what we've learned to,

um, a lot of different categories of tool and make something that's just like really, really great and not outlandishly priced with great support. I think the support is a really key part of it. The trust me bro guarantee. And I think over time, as people's memories of how mad they were about me saying that, fade because we've put our money where our mouth is, that may be branding that we even lean into more and more over time. As I told you guys to trust me, bro, and the ones who did are feeling pretty good about it at this point. And let's keep that train going.

Are we for time? I like really need to go. If there's any more that specifically addressed me, then go. great probably nothing directly i was trying to um yeah i was probably not going to get through these we should be good okay i might have to go so uh wait are we cutting are is that the end of the show then i don't know how you want to handle that it's some for luke if a luke if a luke buys in the forest and i don't hear it does the wands show end yes he is the one that ends the show i had to end it Fair enough.

Before the show started, because he said bye to somebody. Oh, what, Luke, why would you do this? Hey. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay, we'll see again next week then. Same bad time. Same bad channel.

Don't do it. See ya. Wait, or is it not over? Well, I'm assuming I'm finishing merch messages, right? Oh, right, right, right, right. Okay, bye, we can't leave them hanging. But yeah, see you. Okay.

he almost said it I almost did I feel like he baited me but he did he did he did yeah now I gotta like cut him out as well and I also didn't set it to

went after dark it's also frantic we're fine that button we'll be alright Luke cam doesn't have Linus in it but your chairs

you know this frame right here which is Linus's A plus certification has like three spiders living behind it just in the audience I need a new vacuum there's rat stuff everywhere

here too even though I'm surrounded by traps I was I was stuck I had to take a meeting and I was I couldn't get over to the labs which is where my desk is uh desks I guess it was weird but anyways I couldn't get over there in time so I just ran over to the Wansett and took it here because I was like

this would probably be free um I ran into so many spiders and two different mice that's great I was like it's very lively here when we're not around. I feel like they know like Fridays to just like just leave.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't discuss it. Don't come out. All right. Your questions for Luke. Yes. How is the new build of the store coming?

Building a custom theme or based off horizon. We'd love to see the behind some scenes of that process after it goes live. It's still a little bit up in the air. Horizon. Uh, that, is that a specific theme? Shopify. Sounds about right. I don't think we're currently planning on Horizon.

There are a few different ones we're looking at. We're working with an agency. Things are kind of, I don't know. We're a big company now, doing big company stuff. But, yeah, things are not currently set in stone. Yeah, but it's coming. Question for the two Ls. Well, there's only one now.

In your opinion, what is the dumbest thing the other has ever done? Linus doesn't get to defend himself now. Yeah. As an arbiter of the talent, which is the dumbest of all. Linus would... Top of mind for Linus, I think he would say the pizza heater, but I think there's probably something deeper than that that he'd rip me for. For him, this is spicy.

It's either his just, like, stupid. take on the backpack warranty stuff or it's the forum response to Steve I mean it's one of those two I mean sure yeah and I think I win this one

so moving on yeah you do Luke thoughts on the community effort to run the big screen beyond two on Linux really glad to not have to dual boot also thanks for bringing undies back of course mere days after I bought some from Ludwig

I had no idea about the Big Screen Beyond 2 on Linux thing. That sounds amazing. I would be really happy if they got that going. I have still not been able to use it because my house is broken effectively. I'm still waiting for you to use it so that I know if I should spend the effort. Barrow it. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Do it. Yeah, I literally can't use it. I mean, sure. You might as well. I'd have to bring my SIM rig out again. Yeah, sure. I mean, you could hook it up here. Yeah, yeah, I guess.

If you really wanted. I think that, I mean, we have one here that I could play with as well. Fair enough. But it's just like... Yeah, you can like actually take mine home for a bit if you want. Like, it's not going to be super soon that I'd be able to use it. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, but I mean, you might as well profit.

Or not if I like it. That's the major concern. Loss. Yeah. I mean, is it really... I'm really excited. I think it would be really cool. I was so excited for the first one to come out.

And then I procrastinated because I'm like that. Yeah. And now there's a second one, so I think I'll probably just get that one. I saw the first one and was, like, pretty confident that they were going to survive to make a second one. And I was like, I feel like the second one's going to be kind of a banger. And I waited, and I'm happy with my planning on that. Hello, first time merch, messenger, long time viewer. I was wanting to know if Luke has read the Stormlight Archive.

I think you would really enjoy it. I'm pretty sure. Let me look this up really quick. Stormlight Archive. I'm pretty sure this is on. Oh, Brannis Anderson. you know but this is on my list of things to read Brandon Sanderson is awesome

I have a massive backlog of NerdForge has a video on this what we made massive versions of the Store of Night Archive by Brandon Sanderson that's so cool that's really cool they're so cool nerd forge is cool

anyways yeah I will read those at some point that will actually happen my like reading list is not something that just lasts forever and never ever moves forward it moves forward slowly because I read slowly but it does move it does move so I am certain I will read it eventually one of them reached out to maybe do a game jam

one of these days which I think would be a lot of fun huh one of the nerds forge oh yeah yeah that would be incredible I didn't even know they did that me neither that's so cool but yeah terrified

hi do it though yeah I know hell yeah that sounds amazing hi Linus Tuch and tan given the upcoming tectadopamine Disrect pipeline

direct pipeline sorry the words are split what steps do you think we can take as a society to prevent more phone addiction more antisocial behavior it's tough it's tough because it's so easy which is the problem promote within your friend group and your relationships uninstalling certain apps um promote having like timers on your stuff um

um and try to yeah and try to like build habits where you aren't on your phone phone. Like I had some really good old buddies of mine. We had a game night not that long ago where we played the Slayless Spire board game, which is incredibly good, by the way. Like, masterful board game, one of the best board games ever played. And it's four player co-op. And it was fantastic. And no one was ever on their phones the whole time. And it just like felt cool. Everyone was very present. So if you build this like, this like culture within your group of the people that you're spending time with are not just on their phones all the time. It's good. And I have found myself being not good at this before. Pretty often, to be clear. And it's something that I'm

currently actively working on. But yeah, support others in working on it and work on it yourself and just try to be the brightness you want to see in the world. That isn't your phone screen. Have you heard of Arc Raiders? Yeah. that sounds positive yeah i played the beta and it was freaking sick the okay the the problem that i have the mechanics feel great the the droid things i don't know what they're actually called the robots in the in the game people want them to be nerved i strongly disagree i think those need to be terrifying and this is wild the way they are yeah i saw some early builds of this it looks amazing i was like uh new uh but then third person and like it looks like it looks

It looks super fun. It, I had a black... And it's like semi-PVE, right? Semi, it's still definitely PVP, but you can play a good match without interacting with people, but that's also true with Tarkov. Yeah, of course. So if you consider Tarkov semi-PP, which I don't think people would, I think they would just consider it PVP, then it's effectively the same.

my one issue with it and I have not played since their last beta well I guess it's coming out Thursday do they mean next Thursday whatever I don't have a computer right now that like works so I have not been in the loop but yeah single player at Carcalfe okay fine fair enough but I don't suspect I'm going to be able to play this on launch I'm able to play battlefield 6 I'm a little behind right now but the problem that I had in the beta was that the loop

didn't feel great. When you were in the game, things that mechanically felt fantastic. The movement felt really good. A lot of the guns felt really good. The combat, both with droid things and clankers and humans, was quite good. The balance of things seemed pretty good.

But the looting kind of sucked. And the why do I care was pretty extreme. lacking. What is the point? In Tarkov, it's pretty obvious why you're doing what you're doing. The storyline is there. The storyline of Tarkov,

despite being, no one ever reads any of the tasks and all that kind of stuff. The storyline is very straightforward. You're stuck in this, like, quarantine zone. You're fighting to survive, and you need to try to get out. So you're gathering survival supplies,

which include, like, all these little tiny micro gun bits and attachments and stuff in arc raiders it's like i got the the blue hand grip that's awesome i'm excited i can't wait till i get the purple hand grip which is better and it's just it's very boring and feels empty in regards to the looting the progression um so i hope they figure that out and i don't think i'm the only one that feels that way So, yeah, but the feel and stuff is, like, fantastic. And I do suspect that they can figure out the story stuff, so hopefully they do. Hi, Dan, Luke, and Linus.

Well, just us too, I guess. You've spoken previously about contacting Wendell for help with complex technical topics. Yeah, he's our tech support. What's the most obscure technical knowledge Wendell has provided that impressed you? Oh, who does Wendell go to? Steve Banner. himself. Just go to his conscious, ask himself questions, and he answers it.

Linus, sorry, Linus, how do Linux work? Yeah. And he just shrugs. It says, oh, let me call Wendell, and then pauses and looks at his phone, and then has a little cry. I feel like, it's like an animated short. For some reason, I just watched that all happen in my head. Thank you. Yes. I am a creative.

That was fantastic. Most obscure technical knowledge. Dude, I don't know. It's just constant with him. One of the, just, I'm just going to glaze the crap out of Wendell. One of the coolest things about hanging out with Wendell is that you like feel dumb because he's so smart, but then he doesn't make you feel dumb. Does that make any sense?

I sound dumb just saying that. Uh, it's, it's less, I don't think talking to Wendell, you feel dumb. I think when you talk to Wendell, it's like, hey, I don't have this knowledge. Yeah. And then he's like, here, here's the knowledge. And you're like, thanks, Wendell. And come along this interesting journey. I have learned.

Yeah. And he wants to, and he's also interested in learning things himself. Yeah. And he's just, I don't know, he's just such a wholesome, positive dude. Amazing. A source of reason in the world. where there are for you. Wendell's great.

And last one I've got. This one's, I think, mostly for you. How would you like to see a tape-to-tape-tape-vand Shorzie crossover? Certainly think it would be a fruitful collab. A fruitful collab. I think it would be fantastic. I've mentioned this on Wancho before. The reason why I mentioned is because Shorzzi has their own hockey game.

And while it is in early access, I did not enjoy it so much that I, I played for like, I think, 15, 20 minutes and then Alt F Ford and never looked back. And we'll wait for the full release and then try again for sure. But I really wish they just collaborated with tape to tape and made like a team in tape to tape or something or like an alternate campaign that was like Shoresy based. That would be sick. I think two incredibly small indie games, both being hockey games, is a lot to ask, especially with them both being early access at the same time, guys.

Come on. But hey, if it's good, sick. Sounds good. I bought it because I want to support Shoresy because I freaking love that show. It's fantastic. But yeah, wasn't my happiest game purchase ever. Again, it's early access. I can't judge it too hard.

But yeah. And that's all I got. And that's it. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye! You know, I'm going to