The WAN Show - Breaking My Silence - WAN Show January 17, 2025

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Get groceries delivered across the GTA from real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Hey everyone. Before we start our pre-WanShow topic today, I'd like to acknowledge a couple folks. I'd like to acknowledge our team who work so hard to deliver outstanding content to our community. And second, I'd like to

acknowledge our community. No one's perfect. Yes, even us. And for as long as Linus Media Group has existed, you guys have been there to help us. You've held us accountable when we've gone astray, and you've also supported us when an attack against us is unfair and it's time for someone else to be held accountable. Earlier this week, Gamers Nexus took us out of context again. And I can't keep ignoring this sort of thing. Linus recently in a WAN show episode said the following regarding why they did not make a video when they found out about the way Honey works years ago in

response to how he believed that he might be perceived if he had raised awareness to Honey's actions when his team discovered them. Everyone's mad at me. It's that simple. I'm spreading the word for the smaller creators. That argument doesn't save me there, and it's not going to save me if I tell people to uninstall this extension that gets them a better deal so that smaller creators can get their affiliate revenue. Are you kidding me? There is just no way that I make that

video and I don't end up hanging from the nearest tree. Well that's the video we're making right now and if that were to result in backlash like he thinks it would then so be it. Even if we ignore how disingenuous it is to compare the climate today and what we know today to the climate years ago, when we originally dropped our honey sponsorship, our regular viewers will know that I provided additional context that dramatically changes the meaning of that quote. dramatically changes the meaning of that quote. I mean, I don't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint. It's very clear that not everybody does, but what I do expect is for it to be fairly represented, and this particular instance of misquoting is bad enough that many from Steve's own community have used words to describe it like disappointing, misleading, disingenuous, and strawman. To my knowledge, no retraction has been issued, even though I believe it is unlikely

that the volume of comments about this went unnoticed by Steve and his team. You guys may remember another video Steve made about us back in August of 2023, but what you might have missed is that his treatment of us then was part of the same pattern of poor ethics and misrepresentation. To be clear, many points in his video were valid, but many others were not, and it was due to fundamental flaws in his approach. Not careless or sloppy flaws, but objectively unethical, unjournalistic flaws. You shouldn't take my word for that. While I do often report on things and I do my best to act in the community's interest, I'm not a journalist. So why don't we instead look at ethicsandjournalism.org? They have some good articles on subjects like bad news bias and right to respond. Or maybe we could look to the BBC. You can pick

your poison. The point is that while not every publication has exactly the same rules, there are plenty of helpful resources out there that outline the generally accepted standards and ethical responsibilities of a journalist. It's clear reading any of them that Steve's approach in recent years falls short in numerous ways. If you prefer a video summary, here's a convenient one from Dr Ian Cutress of More Than More. The story Gamers Nexus provides is one specifically about Linus Media Group, which changes the

nature of such a topic. For example, one part of ethical investigative journalism is, unless it's uncovering an explicit crime or break of the law, reaching out to get a formal response in advance. Gamers Nexus did it with principle technologies and that blew up. Gamers Nexus did it with Newegg and that blew up. Somehow those companies got special treatment, but Linus Media Group did not. This isn't me sticking up for Linus Media Group here, but I'd be interested to hear the reason for the disparity.

Steve in his update video explicitly states he doesn't have to ask for permission, but that's not the point here. Reaching out to Linus Media Group wouldn't stop you from posting your video, just like it didn't stop him posting the Princi the principal technologies or new egg videos. The precedent set for the last 20 years of tech journalism and 100 plus years of investigative journalism is that you at least reach out. Ian's critique was carefully worded and I don't blame him given the climate at the time, but it was both extremely valid and it was pointed enough that Steve felt compelled to respond to it. Ironically, with a

rushed late-night ramble fest that was so poorly received that he pulled it down before I even got a chance to finish watching it back then. Thankfully, there are reuploads of the video if you look for them, but in a nutshell Steve spent about 20 minutes rationalizing that decades of journalistic best practices around right to reply simply don't apply to him. It felt a little ironic coming from someone who has accused me of gaslighting in the past. Now he did issue a sort of retraction via a community post that you can still find on the channel where he committed to republish that video at a future date, but he said that it would be within a broader channel update, so I'm not actually sure if that ever happened.

And either way, what he didn't do is retract his flawed arguments, only the video where he made them. I say this because you can still find many of these arguments on his secondary GN Mini site in the Ethics Statements section. Now obviously there are some valid policies in here, but many of the others pretty much secondary GN minisite in the ethics statements section. Now obviously there are some valid policies in here, but many of the others pretty much boil down to Steve's personal moral code rather than the standard journalistic code, and I'll expand on that a bit later.

But the short version is that no reputable journalist would validate his arbitrary justification for his own conflicts of interest or his convoluted no-contact policy that he used to justify his failure to reach out to us for comment as part of our right to respond. Now some folks don't seem to understand why this is so important. I have seen lots of speculation that Linus was just upset because Steve Cleverly

didn't give him a chance to weasel out of legitimate criticism. But that is not the case. We have proven over the years, again and again, we welcome constructive criticism, and we go out of our way to maintain open communication channels with our community, like through our sponsor concern section of our forum and through our incredible ECC squad, who lends us their expertise at multiple stages

of our production pipeline. No. Right to respond matters because of the impact that it can have on your accuracy. By taking a single source and for his own reasons, refusing to fact check their misrepresentations, Steve made multiple critical errors in his coverage of the Billet Lab situation. Now look, I know this example is from two years ago, but

it's one that I'm obviously familiar with. And it very clearly illustrates the way that Steve believed and still believes that he should be allowed to just avoid inconvenient data sources when he crafts his narratives. First up, Steve missed that Billett originally gifted the block to us. We were under no obligation to return it. He missed that they told us explicitly that it should work with a 4090 before we attempted it. He missed that Billett told us they were comfortable with us publishing the underperforming results, as long as we put it in context.

And finally, Steve missed that the block only went into our charity auction because of an internal miscommunication that left the block marked as keeper, a mistake that I took action on within literal minutes of finding out. Now, I acknowledge that I didn't handle the situation perfectly, but I think it is undeniable that these omissions and errors are significant, and that they have done significant, possibly irreparable damage to my reputation, to my company, and to my finances. To be clear, I'm only pointing out the finances because it's such an important factor in cases

of libel and defamation. As I stated recently when I was discussing the Honey Class action, I'm not a litigious person. I have no intention of filing any kind of suit because a. it's really hard to say if the line to defamation has been clearly crossed and b. it would be a giant waste of time and money for everyone involved. I only bring it up to underscore the gravity of the situation. The thing is, words mean what they mean. And while morality is a personal judgment, journalistic ethics is not. It's determined by collaboration and consensus between peers in the industry. Look, if Steve wants to do his own thing and call himself a YouTuber with strong moral fiber, that's his opinion, and he's entitled to it, and you're entitled to agree or disagree.

But if he wants to use words like ethics or investigative journalism, then there are objective standards that he needs to uphold, and he doesn't get to decide when they're important and when they're not. Now I believe that Steve is aware of these distinctions, which suggest that he is either ignoring his knowledge because he has failed to properly understand it, or because he is dishonest. I have no evidence to suggest that he is not smart enough to understand these principles. What I do have experience with personally is his dishonesty. The misquote of me in the Honey lawsuit video that forced me to address this is self-evident, but it's the rationalization for not reaching

out about Billett that paints a more complete picture. For starters, he asserts that the information presented in his The Problem with Linus Media Group video was already public knowledge. Some of it was. Some of it clearly wasn't. Billett Labs' representations of our private communication were not public knowledge, and as we demonstrated in our response, they were not provided in good faith or with the appropriate context. Had he reached out for clarification, I feel it would have been clear, both to himself and to his audience, that the events that led to the block being auctioned were an honest accident

caused by a miscommunication. I think it also would have been obvious that any perception that I behaved like a thief or a liar is not supported by the facts. It also would have been clear that some retractions and corrections were required in order to address the information that I provided. To my knowledge, no such action has been taken and the original video is still up. Since we're at this, I would also be very curious to see receipts for the claims that we have a history of failure to resolve issues or unprofessionalism in prior communications. Okay, G.N. further writes, we previously had non-public contact with this organization, LMG here, about similar matters that were not resolved satisfactorily or wherein we

sometimes were the recipients of aggressive messaging pertaining to review top topics. Sorry topics That is an extraordinary claim that I believe requires extraordinary evidence I'm not gonna deny I've had my fair share of cranky days in my life It is possible also that he could be referring to another individual who worked here But I dug through every DM and email that I could find with Steve. I probably don't have all of them. I have switched phones many times in my life. But I can't find any evidence to support this. I'm not perfect, so I want to make it upfront right here and say that if I acted unprofessionally or aggressively at any point, that was not my intention and I'm

truly sorry. But also, the whole thing just doesn't make any sense. Like if you stop and think about it, if he reached out for comment, and I actually responded in the manner that he alleges I might, with dishonesty or aggression, publishing that response, right? That would be great supporting material for his expose. So even if the argument that he doesn't need to reach out because I could be rude in return held up ethically, which it doesn't, it also doesn't hold up logically. And the same goes for his claims that I could somehow turn it into an opportunity to mislead.

Mislead who? Assuming his evidence and conclusions are solid, any deceptive action that I took in public would again give him further ammunition to make his case, and unless he's afraid that I could somehow bamboozle him in private, the most that I could do there is offer an explanation or context, both of which could only help him, if his intent was truly to provide an accurate account. Unfortunately, as many of you have come to realize after the latest honey thing, I don't believe that that was ever the intent. Now look, I know that the first criticism of this segment is going to be, there goes Linus again, all emotional defensive. But what would you do? What would you have me do? I apologized for the errors that we've made, and I kept my mouth shut about this stuff for ages, in the interest of moving past this. It's not working. And like, this isn't some random comment on Reddit, guys. This is an influencer

with massive reach, misrepresenting me on an ongoing basis. How long should I stay silent to atone for my real sins? And how many times should I be unfairly attacked before I'm allowed to get defensive? Thing is, if I allow myself to be misrepresented, that opens the door for someone else to be misrepresented. At some point, I'm sure you guys can agree, it becomes necessary to stand up for yourself. I am not saying I'm perfect. Spoiler, I'm super not. But there are numerous conflicts of interest around Gamers Nexus covering us in any way, which he well knows because he lists them on his website. And a token gesture like forgoing the AdSense revenue on one video falls a little

flat when you compare what can be gained through subscriber growth, AdSense revenue on future videos, not to mention from elevating one's own reputation and brand at the cost of a competitor. Over the last year and a half, I've made sometimes quite difficult efforts to put aside my personal feelings and move on. In spite of my well-founded concerns about Steve's impartiality, not to mention the painful personal history, some of which I just laid out. We, including me personally, have made an active effort to just go back to normal, start shouting out Gamers Nexus. We've done it multiple times for their stories of reporting,

and so we should. When people do good work, we as an industry should praise it, but that should be a two-way street. The honest truth is I don't actually know what Steve's issue with me is today. My last message to him was on the day he published the expose and I never got a response. I will read it here so we can all be on the same page. A journalist might have reached out for comment to get valuable context first, but we both know that, once again, this wasn't about making the most accurate video. Your glass house is showing. Here I'm referring, of course, to the analogy of throwing stones in a glass house.

Scaling beyond a few dudes is a big challenge, and I really hope that one day you get there. One, I still think that even if your judgment is clouded right now by the giant conflict of interest you have around reporting on us, your heart's in the right place and that it would be good for the industry. Two, I think it'll be good for your content and for your audience for you to have a broader perspective. I'll be moving forward as normal and won't be participating in any kind of nonsense public sniping. It'd be good for views or whatever, but I'm pretty focused on growing the company and our test capabilities and our team. You're still welcome at future LTX events, and we'd be happy to resume working together in good faith if you ever decide again that working together as press is good for the industry. Until then, Linus.

What I said holds true today, including the part at the end. I want to move forward, but that's going to take some work from both parties, not just me. So I'm going to shift gears and the next part will be directed to Steve, who was sent an advance copy of my letter today, which he has responded to, kind of, along with a request for comment on his apparent personal challenges around covering us objectively. Steve, on WAN Show today I'll be doing a segment outlining some of the ethical and journalistic issues with your content that I've observed personally and that I have seen raised by the community. I will be especially focused on how they have impacted your coverage of me and my company

because I am most familiar with the relevant facts, but these issues appear to run deeper and I believe they could be impacting your ability to be objective overall, something I know the community values greatly. There will be a particular focus on your stance around right of reply, since it affects accuracy so much, and there will also be some discussion around misquoting, as in the recent Honey video, as well as your inability to address your clear conflicts of interest when it comes to covering an entity that you have chosen to view as a direct competitor rather than as a collaborator or peer as you did in the past.

If you have some comments and evidence on what breakdowns caused your inaccurate coverage of us in the past, why you seem to find it so challenging to cover us objectively, and what steps you plan to make to rectify these issues in the future, I would be happy to include your thoughts in this segment. The segment will also include the following letter that is addressed to you. Steve, we do our best around here to do what we believe is right and to stand up for the consumer. That leads to us doing journalistic things sometimes, and I understand basic journalistic principles, but I'm not a journalist and I've never claimed to be. The reason I'm sending this to you then is not because I'm some journalist reaching

out for comment, but out of respect, and because I was once a collaborator and supporter and I hope to be again someday. For that to happen though, I do have some requests. Everyone is human and we all make mistakes, but I believe that for you to become the journalist you aspire to be, there are some errors in both your approach and in your coverage that are large enough to merit correction. Obviously, not everything needs to be pulled. Your methods aside, it's clear you were right about a lot of things in August of 23. But it's also clear that between the conjecture, editorialization, and what I hope are simply errors rather than lies, a number of retractions are in order, both on that piece and in your other coverage.

This isn't just for me, but also for your community who looks to you to do the right thing. As for the personal side of things, I can't ask you to like me. You clearly disagree on a personal, moral basis with some things I do. Which of them are real and which of them are performative, I'm actually not sure anymore. But it doesn't matter. That's your personal compass and you've got to follow it. What does matter is treating others in the industry with respect and being prepared to be held accountable the same way you hold others accountable. Traditional journalism, while a competitive battlefield, has no absolute authority and is quite often a brotherhood with shared goals that hold each other accountable to mutually agreed upon standards. It's not a brutal free-for-all. So as part of being a contributing member of the tech brotherhood, I expect you to be open to critique in the same way that you expect others to be open to critique. I also expect that if you cover us publicly in the future, you do so with

honesty, impartiality, and proper disclosure of your numerous conflicts of interest. With that said, regardless of your motives in 23, your actions did serve as a wake-up call for us to supercharge the changes that we were slow rolling, and for that I'm thankful. Now it's time for your wake-up call, should you choose to accept it. If you can't, put your biases aside. Simply recusing yourself is an option, but it might require some further retractions, since you've claimed in the past that covering us is so very important because of our business's relevance to the tech industry. Well, if that's no longer the case, then any Snipes that relied on that for justification probably need to go too. I understand you may not want to rebuild this

bridge. But I still want you to know that while Gamers Nexus LLC is every bit as much of a for-profit business as Linus Media Group, Inc., I, Linus Sebastian the Individual, still see you, Steven Burke the Individual, as a colleague and potential future collaborator. Because the reality of it is, personal feelings aside, we both fight for the same team, the consumers and the community. A community that is stronger if we just cut the tribalism and work together. I've always said that a rising tide lifts all ships and that we all benefit from more interest in our hobby and more contributors to our community.

I have always encouraged our viewers to follow multiple outlets and get multiple perspectives, including yours. You used to tell me that you agreed with those things. I hope you can again, because this is going to be especially important as we navigate the weirdness around benchmarking machine learning-assisted cards like the upcoming 50 series. So in summary, I welcome valid, constructive, good faith, two-way feedback, but when I told you a year ago that I had no interest in public sniping matches, that

was the truth. Our community in tech used to stand out as one that embraced collaboration and rejected beef. I would like that again. I chose to make my statement as a segment on WAN Show and a clip on our clips channels rather than a dedicated video in hopes of finding a balance between sharing my side finally and igniting drama for views. So can we forget the past and move forward? See you at Computex Linus. Now, I'd like to come back to addressing you all. For once, in the history of online communities. Guys, I beg of you. This is not, ooh, shots fired. Do not get into a mudslinging match over this.

Continue the good work you do, holding creators accountable, but this is not and it should never be, LTT versus GN, us versus them. Some folks are going to insist on interpreting it that way, but I believe that the majority, the rational viewers, should be able to see the truth of what I'm saying, even if they don't always agree with the source, and see the importance of moving on. As for the ones that can't do that, look, if their viewpoint is closed, we gain nothing by arguing with them, except wasting our energy. Energy we need to power our TX 5090s. So let's rise

above it. So with that in mind then, funny memes in bounds. I like humor as much as anyone, but if Steve wants to move on, then I would like to respectfully request an end to the GN bashing posts, for that matter, any other publication in our various community gathering places, YouTube comments, Discord, Reddit, and the LTT Forum, and any that I haven't thought of. I'd like us to be the change we want to see in the world. Thank you, you guys. One last note. I know that we did announce that we were going to launch our ModMat this week. A project, by the way, that we kicked off long before the August controversy, and that was created in collaboration with ModRWrite, the owner of the Mod-Mat patent who's been making them since before anyone in the creator

space got the idea. But even though our Mod-Mat has nothing to do with Steve, I felt it would be tacky for us to have a long discussion about an important topic like this, then immediately pitch to a sales pitch, or pivot to a sales pitch for a product that competes with one of his. So we're pushing the launch to next week. Now, with that unpleasant business out of the way, welcome to the LAN show. We've got a great show for you guys this week. I went on the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon. So I'm going to be talking about that. I had, dude, I had the time of my life.

I, I'm, I, I honestly know very little about it and I'm just as interested as probably they are to hear about it. I am stoked. We're also going to be talking about a perception that I've seen in the community, that review embargoes are bad. Let's talk about that. What else we got this week? Nintendo officially announced the Switch 2, and goodbye TikTok. And what's happening in the world of apps because of that I was prepared look at that wow what year is it dude The show is brought to you today by honey, oh, Vessi And rocket money and of course by our rap partner D brand and our chair partner secret lab

And he's dead got him I knew about most of this I didn't know know about that. I just made that up. Oh my goodness! I was feeling irreverent. Lift the tension! Do we wanna...what are we doing? What are we doing? Are we doing Fallon? Are we doing one of mine? What's the plan?

I wanna talk about the Tonight Show. Okay. On Wednesday! So what this would be... Okay, how annoying is it that you click the thing down here and the calendar doesn't pop up anymore? So on Wednesday the eighth, I got an email that was like, hey, so like CES, right man?

And I'm like, yeah, I'm a little busy. I'm like, you know, covering CES. I'm there right now, yeah. I'm literally there right now, but yeah, CES. And they're like, do you wanna be on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon? I'm like, I gotta be honest with you. I knew my answer, but immediately I was like, I gotta trust, I don't want to just trust myself on this one.

It's a huge stage, and on the one hand, I I could nail it but on the other hand I could bomb it Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I have that I have dude. I have bombed things It's also like as much as honestly, I think the viewership across both. I googled what the viewership Yeah, that show is I think it's like honestly fairly similar. Okay, we can talk about that more later Whether that's true or not. I have no idea, but it's just a totally different thing that more later. Whether that's true or not I have no idea but it's just a totally different thing. It's not the way I show this is like a home turf advantage you know like there's the sets, there's things that we're used to you've done show coverage for a decade. I'm with my shooters who I can riff with and stuff like that.

Like there's things that you're used to and then there's just completely like whatever the heck that experience was. I can't even imagine. Okay so anyway what the first thing I did was I fired off an email to I think Colton, Yvonne, Chewy who's our community manager and I think I included Taryn as well. I'm like what do you think should I do this? And they were basically like oh yeah and James James. Because it would disrupt our production schedule a little bit. Like it basically cost three days because of the timing.

I had to fly in the day before, I had to do the show, oh wait, did I fly in the day before? Or no, I did a red eye. I did a red eye the night of, and then did the show, and then I had to fly out the next day. And the show's not at night. I thought it was live this whole time. It's, I mean, I haven't. It's live to tape. I thought it was live this whole time. It's it's I mean I haven't it's live to tape

So in terms of the actual filming experience it functionally might as well be live because they're doing live camera switching But it actually like if you've ever attended it in person Which which you can do and it was a packed house because like bad bunny was on the show you can do and it was a packed house because like bad bunny was on the show. It's actually a few hours before the actual the airing of the episode so they have time to you know bleep any make minor really bad cuss words and I thought it was like a like a 15 second buffer or something so they had time to bleep and and like block things out and that's it. No but what I will say is that the taping experience is really not paced from what I saw that differently than if it was live. I think if I was to guess I would say the liveness or the I would say the

live to tape rather than liveness is more about making sure that it's that it's really smooth and really clean and less about that they couldn't do it live if they really wanted to. They clearly could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That team was so pro. We'll get to that in a second, though. So anyway, they basically gave me the green light. We figured out the travel arrangements. I promised myself, do you remember when this happened? I promised myself, like, nine years ago, 10 years ago, that I would never do a trip immediately after CES again. Do you remember when I did that? No, but I'm pretty sure we've talked about it.

I was at CES and Ford reached out wanting to sponsor a trip to the New York International Auto Show. I literally came back from Las Vegas, had a meal with my family in the airport, and then got on my plane going to the next trip. It was horrible. I told myself, I would never do it again. Well, I did it again. And I am so glad that I did. Dude, okay, so back to it being different. I've done live before.

I think the first time I ever performed live, and I don't mean like when I was in a choir recital when I was a kid or whatever. The first time I ever performed live, and I don't mean like when I was in a choir recital when I was a kid or whatever, the first time I ever had to like work the crowd was at the NCIX Tech Fair at Aberdeen Mall. That's the same one I was going to say. So what happened then, and this is really funny, was Microsoft, I believe, was one of the main sponsors of the event, But realistically, do you think Microsoft actually has the time of day? For it was like a weird little thing in the courtyard of this

mall, like a shopping mall. It was odd. They just set up like tables and like down one of the hallways by the NCIX store, and then vendors were just like sitting behind their tables. I, I, I, I, whatever, like a couple, I think like a couple of case brands had some cases on their tables. Whatever, like a couple, I think like a couple case brands had some cases on their tables and stuff. It was super weird, super jank. Anyway, Microsoft didn't have the time of day for this, but they sponsored it because the way that

sponsorship dollars work for retailers is typically through MDF, or Marketing Development Funds, I think is what it's short for. And essentially, rather than being a negotiation where I go, hey, Luke, I want to do a video on your water bottle. Give me some money and we'll do the video. The way it actually works is I'm a store and I sell these water bottles that Luke's company makes and a percentage of my sales revenue gets rebated back to me for approved marketing activities. So realistically what happened was NCIX was just looking

for a way to spend some MDF and Microsoft was like, fine, screw it, who cares. So we did this weird tech expo thing in Aberdeen Mall. At some point, they're like, hey, we need you to go on the stage and do, I think it was like a giveaway or something. I don't even remember what it was. But it was one of the most awkward things that I had ever done in my life because it really makes sense. I had no idea what the point of

anything I was doing was. I had no experience with like crowd work or addressing a live audience. It's really at that point, I was already making videos. I'm pretty sure yeah, because Luke was in the picture. So it's obvious. I've been making videos for a while, but talking to a camera is different. I think that must have that must have been 2012. I can, I can perform for the camera without even thinking about it. It's second nature to me now. Live is different. Like when you make a joke live,

like I think the waifu one didn't land in person. Oh, bro. It landed in different ways. That was so good. The waifu one did not land in person. Dude, the kind of mortification that you feel like when a joke doesn't land with you guys, it's just like I shake it off. But the silence is deafening.

It's deafening silence. And I could tell immediately that I did something wrong. Not wrong, like they were mad at me or anything wrong, but when I was like, I'm on real TV. Do you know how many times someone has probably said that on the show? Oh, tons. For regular viewers, like come on.

I feel like that's like, man, what would that be like? It'd be like walking up to a beloved TV actor and asking them to do their catchphrase. You know? Like it's just, ugh, ugh, it's played up. So I did that, which immediately got me like, oh I did that, I can't believe I did the thing in the movie. And then, you know, obviously I have some idea what they want to talk to me about, but it is very much, uh, and I gotta say, It is very much, and I gotta say, Fallon gets a really bad rap for like, I don't know, overreacting or fake reacting to things.

Dude, what are you talking about? He actually, they told me he went out of his way because I respectfully asked. I said, look, I value genuineness in people's reactions to things. I would respectfully ask that while you explain everything so that he, like, you know, knows what it is, that you not have him put the glasses on, not show him the color changing, and have it be fresh, fresh, fresh.

And they're like, yeah, of course. And you know what's funny is, you know how he, like gets a bunch of flack online for like over laughing at things? Sure, honestly, I have no idea. I don't I don't watch any form of TV. It's not it's not against his show. I don't watch. Yeah, no. Well, he does sometimes because I kind of like looked up, you know, what to expect, you know, from the church, because I've watched clips from time to time.

But I also don't have a TV subscription. So, like, I watch clips on YouTube, right? Like, that's about it. Sure. And, and, and I was, so I've read through a lot of the comments on ours, and the flip side is there's people saying he looked so uninterested. No, what he looked like to me, as a person who was actually there, who was actually sitting on the couch across from him, was someone who was listening to me talk about things

and genuinely experiencing them. I thought he was great! And he was such, dude, bad bunny is the most effortlessly cool person that I have ever met. No, no, I'm serious. I barely even interacted with him. Did you see him put on the glasses? I swear to God that guy could put on a milk crate and it would look cool. Pull the what's-her-name she put on the potato sack? Sure. Yeah. In fact, I bet a lot of people didn't notice this but he was wearing for his belt. He was wearing a rope. With his like slick outfit. He just just had a rope tied around his waist. That's probably some fashionable thing. Because when you're that cool, anything you do is cool.

Anything you touch is cool, and anything you say is cool. Also, that was hilarious when he was like, nudes. Yeah. Let me put it. I was kinda surprised they left that in. Let me put it this way, sir. You probably get nudes. I don't Have you ever?

I have all my DMs turned off. Yeah, so I don't know maybe at some point, but yeah There's no way that I there's no way that I yeah did bad bunnies steal the glasses and come on guys He's a professional and do you think he can't afford glasses if he really wants them? Like, the brand immediately responded, saying they would send him glasses. Like, he doesn't need to do that. Those ones are pre, those are development samples, probably. Those-

It's pretty cool. They came back, have you seen them? Not in person. Oh, do you? I never, I had, when you were talking about bringing out glasses, I thought you were, you were going to do the screen ones. Big screen beyond or whatever. Oh, like a whole VR headset. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of setup. Here, here you go. Okay. All right, we're doing the demo again. We're doing the demo again. Let's go, boys.

So how do I, it's somewhere over here. Yeah, somewhere over there, a little bit further back. Oh! That is actually pretty wild while you're raining. That's pretty cool, right? That's crazy. We have a short. I'm not sure if we've published it yet. So you know how on the show he asked how it works and I was like, magic, don't worry about it, right? Wow. Whoops. Okay, I see how they charge too. They're not that like bulky for having electronics in them. No, they're super cool. So I know on the show, I kind of hand waved it away because I knew my segment wasn't super long.

And I was like, magic. But we do know how they work. And we shot a short when I got back that looks like it hasn't gone up yet, but we'll be going up very soon, explaining exactly how they work. So stay tuned for that on the LTT channel channel they're super cool. Man what else is there for me to talk about with it? It was so surreal like

they did they did a walkthrough with me so that I'd be familiar with the like the stage layout and stuff like they wouldn't just shove me out there and be like go so they did a walkthrough where they just had stand-ins at the desk for Bad Bunny and Jimmy and then they like open the curtain So they did a walkthrough where they just had stand-ins at the desk for Bad Bunny and Jimmy. And then they like open the curtain and they say, okay, go. And so, you know, they show me how to do the walk up and shake hands and shake hands and sit down. Oh my God, the way I sat down, I was so awkward.

I don't even think I noticed. And like I let my pants get hiked up like this high. I did notice that. No! I thought that was on purpose. No! Okay, question, were those your darn tough socks or did you sneak the LTT prototype socks on? Almost everything on my person was LTT.

Was I the only one that noticed the socks? Nope. Okay, okay. No, no, no, the community loved it. They saw the commuter bag. You know what's funny? I noticed the commuter bag for sure. It was actually their team that was that kind of hinted that or that kind of started the idea

rolling that like I'd have a bag of tricks you know and I was like oh that's perfect I have a backpack and that works for me and to be clear I fully disclosed to them like that it was my backpack and I saw a lot of people speculating that oh they they wouldn't have they wouldn't let him say LTT store, or they wouldn't let him pimp it or whatever. That did not happen. I could not say a negative word about the Tonight Show team. If I tried. That's cool. They were professional, responsive, so accommodating. I mean, I guess they have to be used to like, actual famous people and stars and I mean, I guess they have to be used to like, actual famous people and stars and stuff.

Where's the, they're like tripping over themselves, like, can we bring you one of these? Can we get you some of this? Are you comfortable? I'm like, I'm good. They're like, can we close the door of your green room? I'm like, I mean, the door's right there. I could close it.

Yeah, like they were, they were so, so accommodating. Loved me. Oh, here's another thing that I think people don't necessarily appreciate about s-tier personalities like I Consider myself an a-tier personality. I think I'm I think I'm pretty darn good on camera for the most part I screw up sometimes and you guys could obviously tell I was pretty nervous on the tonight show segment for the first part of it I said this in the pre-show and you told me to shut up which is fair because this should have held it for this segment but yeah absolutely you did lock in though I had the whole time you were sitting there talking I was like man stop like stop talking about yourself and start talking about tech crap because the second you start talking about tech crap, you'll be fine

and then you finally did and immediately locked in I was like, ah, we're good That's my boy! Yeah, he's got it, man Jayden's in chat, mine just seemed so nervous I know him IRL, duh and it was so weird to see him like that it was endearing though, thanks like that. It was endearing though. Thanks, Jason.

You did totally lock in though. Oh, thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah, J2134 in full plain chat said the lock in was crazy. But yeah, but okay, Jimmy, S tier, right? Like Ludwig, S tier. You know, you encounter people that you just you look at and you go, I could practice my whole life

And I will never make it look as easy as you do Like the the whole the whole um dick joke thing with the laptop Do you not think he knew where he knew something was coming? I mean how maybe not that maybe not that something was coming. I mean, how, maybe not that, maybe not that. But there's no way that he didn't know something's coming, right? The way I set it up and I'm like,

and I'm like, ooh, a laptop. I was a little concerned when you did that, not gonna lie. And then it worked out great. That means I did good, that means I did good. Anyway, the guy's such a pro. He just, he walked into it for me. When he needed to talk to help slow me down

or calm my nerves or just get us to move on when I'm being boring, he did it. Gently. He was a good orchestrator. Yes. And when it was time to let me talk and respond sparingly. He did that. He did that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, dude, I had a heck of a time. I met him for like five minutes before the show and oh, I was so stoked because I feel like production teams can be very protective of their talent. Sure. And they should be, right? Because that the entire show rides on the talent delivering night after night, you know, so they can be very protective.

So when I said what they told me Jimmy's favorite game, because they kind of wanted the game on the on the X-Ray glasses to be something that he was deeply familiar with. They told me it's Zelda. My relationship with Nintendo, my confidence that I could go on network, or sorry, not network, broadcast, broadcast TV. What's the difference?

I forget, but there's a difference. One's free, one's something, whatever. Sure. If I go on TV, okay Yeah, and use Nintendo gameplay my confidence level Pretty low. So I'm sitting there. I'm racking my brain. I look down and I see my what would Luke do bracelet And I was like How did I not think to just give him Baldur's Gate 3?

Yeah. Same control schema, because all I needed to do with him to do was walk around a little bit and just be like, whoa. Yeah. He had a 162 inch screen in front of him, right? That's all I needed him to do. So all I did, so in the pre-show,

it's on the pre-brief, I was like, okay, look, your team like, your team's like, oh, make sure that you, you know, go through this with that. I'm like, okay, so it uses standard dual stick control. He's like, oh, make sure that you, you know, go through this with that. I'm like, okay, so it uses, it uses standard dual stick control. He's like, okay, yeah. Yeah. But yeah. He'll be fine.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like, ah, dude, he would, I don't know. He was, he was super cool. Yeah. And you didn't need, like, he didn't need to get in a fight or anything. He just needs to see that he could see the screen in his glasses. That was all that really needed to happen.

Yeah. And, and, uh, and I was very sure that Larian wouldn't go after us, so that was one of the other reasons that I went with that. Yeah, they're pretty chill. Anyway, yeah, they made the experience completely unforgettable for me. I shared them with Luke, but they're technically not for commercial use, so I'm not going to put them on the show right now, but they sent over a nice little photo album for me. Oh, yeah. That included like a cool black and white shot. Those were cool. Of the back of Jimmy's head and me standing in the green room

shaking his hand and like a nice wide of me on the set during the show and the big Tonight Show logo and stuff. That was genuinely very cool, yeah. It was really different. I've never really done traditional media before. Oh, what? I didn't know that. What's up? Sven, the CEO of Larian, apparently tweeted the clip out. Oh, that's super cool. Of course he did. So I want to talk about the difference between a view on TV and a view on YouTube. Because I gotta say, on the one hand, I was so excited, like elated to have this experience and to get to do this and to have it be so cool

for me personally. But on the other hand, a small part of me couldn't help being like, okay, why isn't everybody this excited and impressed when we get five million views like all the time? Right, like why is it that- Well, no, I think it was comparative because you look at, like they upload a lot to that channel. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

I don't mean that. I mean like on LTT. On a very regular basis, we upload a video that gets a couple million views. I don't have people crawling out of the woodwork from all parts of my past being like, yo, I saw you on Fallen. But that's the thing, is even though it's only,

because I saw a lot of people being like, oh, it was so gracious of Linus to support up and coming creators like Jimmy Fallon, which is a meme format. They don't mean any disrespect. And while we get a lot of views and stuff, what I've discovered is that even though, obviously I'm new media in and out, all the way through to my core,

a view on traditional media just plain isn't the same as a view on new media. It just plain doesn't hit as hard. Whether it's the kind of the glamour and the spectacle, whether it's the polishedness of the production, whether it's the just whether it's just the perception. Dude, everyone and their dog reached out to me about it. Like people I haven't talked to in years, people Like people I haven't talked to in years, people Yvonne hadn't talked to in years were reaching out to her being like,

yo, I saw Linus on Fallon. There's definitely, yeah, there's definitely a prestige perspective on it. Yeah, and you know what? When I was there, sitting in the studio, You got it, you got the vibe. Seeing the production, it's a vibe. It's a vibe, It was so cool.

Let me see what else I've got. Oh, Sammy has some notes on the experience. So this is great. If you guys are, hold on a second, I'm just gonna open this in a new tab. If you guys are subscribed to Float Plane, Sammy actually came with me on the trip for the express purpose of creating this behind the scenes vlog of getting to and appearing on the Tonight Show. So if you guys want to check that out, Sammy came along for the ride and he actually has some notes in here as well. He says, they, oh, no, no, that one. They says, he says, bringing Yvonne was an excellent call. I actually wasn't going gonna bring her until five hours before my departure Why well because she has like we have a lot of stuff going on with the kids

Yeah, but and like I'm assuming she wanted to we have a life. She she wanted to be supportive You know how she is. She wants to be there doing whatever is the single most productive useful there doing whatever is the single most productive useful thing. And she puts aside a lot of her own feelings to do the right thing, to drive things forward. And so if the right thing was to make sure that, you know, the kids all get to their stuff and whatever else, she was down to do that and watch from home. if the right thing was to make sure that I don't blow a flipping gasket Freaking out about this thing then she was down to come with me And Sammy said bringing Yvonne was an excellent call a lot of praise warranted He has has that bolded for keeping your nerves

For keeping your nerves like 5% was caught on camera in terms of nervousness and Yvonne making you calm down. If it was just you and me, all I would have been able to do is give you a thumbs up and say you got this, and the shoot potentially would have gone way worse. Oh. Alright. Merch plug missing. How do- Oh! Yeah, man! All right. Merch plug missing. How'd, oh, yeah, man.

I gotta, can I, can I please, for maybe the final time, ask the community not to speculate. Speculation is bad. It's bad, and if you don't know, don't say anything. X-Rail is using footage from Linus on the Tonight Show and their ads. Not saying this is good or bad, just notice it while scrolling. It's great promotional content for the classes, so it makes sense to use it.

Quite honestly, I won't be surprised if the items he chose to take to the show are sponsors. That's exactly how it works. No. It isn't. If you don't know, don't say anything. That's actually not our footage. Yeah, that I don't know anything about that, but I would say it's their footage.

Yeah, whether they have the rights or not, X-Real wise, that I don't know. I know nothing about that. What I do know is that X-Real did not give us a dime for the appearance. What happened was we got the call on Wednesday and we went holy crapicles. Just for reference, CES functionally closes on Thursday. So we got the call, we went holy crapicles, we spent the rest of Wednesday deciding to do it and then compiling a hit list.

And then there were multiple options for the segment. There was a possibility that if we didn't find anything, I would have sat on the couch, done a terrible segment, and never been invited to TV ever again. But I wanted to go for gold on this because I was pretty excited about it. I mean, it's a cool milestone. Even if it only happens once, might as well send it.

And so I told them, look, I told the team, look, here's what we should try to do. We should try to bring CES to the Tonight Show. So we spent Thursday, part of the team, massive shout out procurement, massive shout out, the man in the chair, James, who was coordinating a lot of CES stuff from back here at Homebase, massive shout out to the writing team

that was actually at CES. I hope I'm not missing anybody, but massive shout out, massive shout out to our team for getting that together so fast. So on Thursday, we went around to our hit list items and we basically were like, hey, here's the opportunity. Nothing is guaranteed because we have no way we're going to pitch it. It may or may not make it. You know, nothing's guaranteed.

This is the op. Are you interested? And we scraped them together. The way X-Real happened was I was shooting that VR... Did you watch the VR headset side by side that I did? No. Okay, so I did a VR headset side by side with Pimax and... Oh shoot, that really cool lightweight OLED one, or micro OLED one. Oh, I'm so sorry.

Anyway, someone's going to tell me in the chat and that's going to make it easier. Anyway, I did this VR thing and next to them was X-Real and I'd seen a couple articles, but they weren't actually on our hit list at that time. So I went over to X-Real with Andrew, I think it was, who was shooting with me, Megan EX, that's the one, Shift-Alt. So I went over to X-Real and I got in line for a demo. And it was actually kind of a long line, and we were kind of thinking of leaving.

And then one of the reps came like scurrying over and was like, hi, what would you like to see? And I was like, oh, I actually don't have a lot of time. I was thinking I might actually go. She's like, no, no, no, no, I got you, I got you, I got you. So clearly she figured out who we were. And at that point, I just wanted to try it out because I had read some good things about it at the show.

But I had, I've never been a big fan of the wearable display thing. Yeah. I think I remember doing a video with you a while back. Where we kind of trashed it. Where we used, it wasn't, I don't think that was an X-ray one. I think it was someone else.

No. But either way, the technology, A, wasn't there don't think that was an X real one. I think it was someone else But either way the the technology a wasn't there wasn't there and B Just didn't seem compelling to me in at least that you know weight and form factor and and donglage situation And I think we were pretty much on the same page there So I you know, I don't know. I was like I'll try it sure Anyway, I try it. Blows my freaking mind. Cause it's really good.

The darkening, the chromatic, chromatic, the extra chromatic, whatever, the darkening lenses, man, they're really good. They block out so much. Conveniently for X-Real, they had a super bright obnoxious neighbor. Oh, almost convenient for them. Exactly where their demo was set up,

it was like right there shining into your eyes and you go, and you can see it. But when you're focused on your content, you can totally ignore it. So I was sitting there playing Switch games, I'm like, I wanna take this to the next. So this is such a, it's such a like wow moment. Cause that's what you want for that, like that tight.

It needs to be visual too. That tight format. And I knew it wasn't going to be that, but I knew we had other things that could be more visual and more engaging for the audience. His reaction was quite visual though. I think I was telling Linus about this too. When he didn't get it for a while,

that almost made it so much better. And to be clear, he wasn't faking anything. He could see the projected screen. Just, it seemed like it was like, it didn't change the experience that much. But when you can be like, Yeah, yeah. It's more comfortable.

Then your brain starts spinning on like, okay, what ways could I use this? Yeah, exactly. It gets a lot more interesting when you look away from it. Didn't Luke try them last week? Yeah, I was going along with this segment, don't worry about it. A week before last week, I think.

Right, so anyway, we were there and I'm like, wow, this is really cool. Their CEO and founder walks past, was having a meeting with someone at the booth, which they tend to do. A lot of the time at the booth, which they tend to do. A lot of the time, the really big wigs tend to not. They have actual meeting rooms. A lot of the time, they tend to not do the meetings

on the show floor though. In light of recent events involving CEOs getting gunned down in the streets. Oh yeah. CES had a, I would say a tighter approach to security than in the past. I'd still say there's a lot of gaps, but anyway. There's certainly been some conversations around,

you know, CEOs and security. Yeah. I don't know if I can say it. Yeah, that's probably fine. There's like an incredibly easy way to get through security, but I'll just leave. Don't worry about it. I'll just leave it.

Don't worry about it. Anyway, but he happened to be there because they did have a meeting room in their booth and he was like, yo! And so I was so I so I basically I got to pitch to him personally, hey, here's this op, I really like this product. Can I take it with me right now? And they weren't able to give it to me right now right now. But we I think we sent procurement back like two hours later and that product I think is not coming out for a while Like that's not out yet. Yeah, but they were like, yeah, we got you. We got you with everything They sent a rep with us to the tonight show Oh to like make sure that everyone was briefed and everything was cool

They gave me a briefing there on the show if that was my company like yeah Well, yeah, especially if it's that pre-release like just have them there for like technical support Make sure nothing's gonna go wrong last and you had an extra pair. Yeah, just in case stuff goes wrong with release hardware. Yeah, um, but no No, X-reel didn't pay a dime to me or to the Tonight Show for their appearance there like not everything Which is fine. Not everything is a conspiracy theory, and you know what, I don't doubt for a second that some things do involve payment. 100%. 100%.

But that doesn't mean that it always is. The other assumption that I saw here is Linus is doing loads of interviews so that he can go on more talks, industry events, be a speaker, et cetera. That sounds like probably the thing that Linus would hate most. So, guys, I've talked publicly already

about why we went down to California. We haven't done any collabs in a while. Colin and Samir have wanted to do something with us forever. And Colton lined up the Anthony Padilla assumptions Is it a podcast? Kind of what is it? Interview? Whatever thing? Because we were down there talking to Colin and Samir anyway So that was back in December?

November? I don't know. It was back. It was back last year as For the Tonight Show appearance, completely random, totally unrelated, there's a bunch of speculation in here that I was down there for a Tonight Show and therefore I hooked up with Colin and Samir and Anthony Padilla as well. They're not even on the same coast, right? Like come on guys, sometimes things just happen. We've been in the mood to do some more collabs, we've also collabed with Mighty Car Mods,

we've also collabed with Doug DiMuro. Just relax, guys. Relax, guys. It's okay. It's okay. What else we got here? Man, it was so fun. Next topic?

Do we move on? Yeah, I think so. I've got a lot of people asking, would you go again? I would like to formally say, I would love to. Yeah. Honestly, the second it was announced as an idea on like Wednesday or whatever when it was going around internally, my brain immediately jumped to like CES guy, just like you know do a thing every year or I mean maybe more often who knows well I don't know but like it was it was a cool segment and I think tech has gotten more

boring over the years but clearly it's not like nothing's happening. Yeah and it's not like there aren't people who are five years out of the loop that I could show industries that have been developing for years and years and years. This is a non-standard audience. Like wearable displays, you know? Be like, okay, yeah, but we're at the point now

where it's like, wow, cool. Like, a lot of mainstream people, if Apple doesn't announce one, they don't know what it is. And even Apple, like, dude, do you know how easy it would be to find an Apple person who like doesn't know anything about the Vision Pro because who cares about the Vision Pro?

Hold on, I'm trying to find the outreach. Someone asked what I put in my rider and so I wanna find my response email to them because I basically just said, response email to them because I basically just said I Said can you send me an example of a previous segment that would give me some idea of what format and what I should expect And then I said I'm thighs deep in CES stuff right now, but I'll get back to you today, and then I said Thighs deep I don't know that's an expression, right? I Know Taylor says that all the time

Hold on where did I where did I say yes, cuz I basically was like Hold on hold on hold on Basically nothing yeah here. We're just talking like Basically nothing. Yeah. Here we're just talking like... Okay, I think I missed it. It must have been like a one-liner or something. But yeah, I had nothing in my writer. I had no idea what to expect. I've never done this before. It felt pretty cool to get the tap. You know? I'd love to know. We actually haven't gotten a lot of those.

No. And you know what? I kind of to know. We actually haven't gotten a lot of those. No, and you know what? I kinda get it. Like I'm not really TV ready, you know? You did good by the end. You did very good by the end. I mean in other ways though. Like I literally, I saw a couple people that were like, yo Linus, you gotta respect the dress code.

Where's your suit? And I'm like, yo, I't even like own a suit that fits yeah Okay, I could probably I could probably buy one, but like that's never been me. That's never been My thing it's fine like the there was a there was a commenter that compared it to like animal handlers going on On these types of life. I would love you're like tech Bro, I would love to be animal handler tech guy I don't necessarily I wouldn't necessarily want to be like like pigeon hold like I wouldn't know like at some point

You know, I would want to develop and and I don't I don't know how this works and I haven't Look, I don't know but I'm just kind of talking out loud here. You know, at some point I would love to... I don't know. Well, whatever. I'll be tech bro guy to start. Because I gotta know my role, right? So you wanted to like co-host at some time or something? Oh, heavens no. You don't want to be Bad Bunny? Oh no.

Bad Linus. Yeah, you do. No hosting the Tonight Show. I do not. Look how cool Yeah, you do. No, hosting the 10 night show. I do not. Look how cool I am when I put these glasses on. Uh-uh. Whoa, I have a rope belt. Uh-uh.

I made it myself. I'm good. I went to Home Depot. I am gonna need a way different hairstyle if I'm gonna be as effortlessly cool as Bad Bunny. I'll tell you that much. Oh, Luke could dye it again for you. Dude.

Yeah, I got you. I totally accidentally flattened my hair too much. I looked like you that much. Oh, Luca died again for you. Hahaha! Dude. Yeah, I got you. I totally accidentally flattened my hair too much. I looked like such a nerd. Oh, it was perfect. That fits the, that fits the theme. You're adorable. It's okay. No, I'm gonna have better hair next time, I promise.

Oh my goodness. Perm, yeah, I like that idea, brickpaint. Oh. Anyway. So, um, yeah yeah it was honestly it was an amazing week. Did you know that during CES we hit our all-time highest reviews in a day? We're like reviews in a day. We're like killing it. Yeah hell yeah. I was on flipping TV. It was okay basically I am

I'm still kind of riding the high to be honest with you it has definitely been a week of all time yes one of one of the weeks it has definitely been a week what would I wear next time because you know it's got to be from creator warehouse dude we have some stuff coming that is very cool. I don't even know. Should I go cool? Or should I go like our professional, like our nine to five line? But what do you think?

Giant logos. I don't, I don't think you need to start going professional on it. Well, okay. If you want to get out of the tech bro niche, then maybe you should. I don't even think I'm like tech bro with my style. I'm just like, I'm more like, yeah, the guy who works on your cabling. Like, I'm not really- Yeah, it's definitely geeky though. Yeah, fair enough. If you want to get out of the like, I am geek person, I come on here to be geek person.

Flowplane wants RGB for a coat. Okay, that is not happening. That would be cool, if you want to be cool, I'd be pretty safe. RGB fur coat. You could have a little RGB cane made out of memory, rope belt, dad hat. Wouldn't have to see your terrible hair, I mean flat hair, I mean good hair. I didn't get the middle finger. Their crew is so much nicer than mine. Yeah, but we do it because we love you. Oh man. Yeah, I don't know.

I think it depends on the vibe of the episode that you're doing. If you're tech handler, then I don't know, we're geeky stuff. We're cool stuff. If you're trying to like, I am- You know what? I think I, if, if, if I get the tap again, I am, I think what I want to do for now is just do what they ask. Because realistically, I know my world, and if they wanted to like come do a YouTube video

about technology, I'm sure that they would ask for guidance from me And so if if they want to do a TV segment, then I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing which is Hey, how do you want me to do this? You know, where's the edge in terms of humor? Where's the edge in terms of like, you know roasting the host? Where's because I asked a lot of questions in the lead-up which is part of I think why I was so nervous because I was trying to- Pete Slauson Remember the answers to everything? Jared Slauson Hold in my head because I just, I don't know

the vibe. I don't know what the proper etiquette is. And like I said, they were so gracious and so helpful and so accommodating. Pete Slauson Okay. Jared Slauson Jared Slauson Yeah, very cool. Pete Slauson Let's move on though. New topic. Yeah, what do you want to talk about?

Uh, ba-ba-ba, the Switch? Do we talk about the Switch? Let's talk about the Switch! It's... We have a full video coming tomorrow as soon as possible. So it's going to be taking our Saturday release slot, but it will maybe come sooner, depending on when the reviews are done. And, like, we're going to kind to step on the WAN show's normal window

to sit and get views with our Switch 2 video as soon as it's ready. But David put it together because, of course, it was David who wrote it. And he tried to make it a little bit more in-depth than just, here's a summary of what Nintendo said in the announcement, because you can't really make an eight minute video but a two minute 22 second teaser. And instead, what he did was he put together a compilation of both what we know from the announcement and also what we probably know in sort of like

a decreasing order of confidence. If that makes sense. And so he managed to paint what I think is a really, in sort of like a decreasing order of confidence. Interesting, okay. If that makes sense. Yeah, I like that. And so he managed to paint what I think is a really, not complete because we don't know for sure. And we don't normally report on rumor mill stuff, but what we can see is sources that were somewhat validated by Nintendo's video.

So if they say, yeah, it's gonna have this, it's gonna have this, it's gonna have this, it's gonna have this, we see all that in the teaser, and they say, oh, by the way, also this, this, this, and this, that adds credibility versus the sources that got a bunch of stuff wrong compared to Nintendo's teaser, if that makes sense. First question, or is there, oh, sorry, sorry, are we supposed to do like a summary? Okay, do you want to read the thing? Sure, read the thing.

Sure, yeah. In a very chill YouTube video, Nintendo officially announced the successor to the uber-successful hybrid console coming out this year. Their Switch One shipped 146 million units. It was the third best-selling console of all time, behind in first place the PlayStation 2 and in second place the DS. They showed off the new grown-up aesthetic, I don't know what that means, it looked really similar to me, new Joy-Cons, two USB-C ports, interesting, backwards compatibility for the most part, and a new Mario Kart game. They also gave us April 2nd, 2025 as the date for the Direct, not the release date, but the direct where we will get more details.

We're going to have our in-depth take with a breakdown of both the video and the rumors, then announcement, blah, blah, blah, everything Linus was just saying. And then there's discussion questions. So- Discussion question. Yeah.

Will you buy one? Probably. Okay. So this, I have a bone to pick with you. I saw that coming. You talk a big game about thinking handheld PCs are cool. You never buy one. Nintendo releases something and you're like,

please daddy, take my money. Please, can you take my money? I think with the Switch, there isn't gonna be a new one for like what I don't know six years so with the steam deck has had a Three year life so far four years when the steam deck yeah, but then there's been the ally and there's been all these other things Nintendo is a long life. Oh, but you know it's not long because Sega might make a handheld again What are you even talking about?

I also, to a certain degree, like the idea that it's different stuff Okay If I can play all the things that are gonna be on one of the other handhelds on my PC I mean Nintendo might And I will do that most of the time About three and a half years for Steam Deck by the way Nintendo might not like me acknowledging this, but you could certainly play Lots of stuff

on a handheld PC. I also don't do this. I mean, I actually don't. I own two switches. I also own a switch, and it's just a better experience. Well, yeah, okay, this is fair. I only have a first-gen ally, though, and the battery life kinda sucks so much

that I'd honestly kinda rather play on the Switch. I also have the rare switch that can do the thing, which I haven't done. But I do have the key that I made. Moving on. Those rare ones, are those like the really early ones? Yeah, those are the ones. Nice, I probably have one too. Luke's not done yet though.

Okay. I probably have so looks not done yet though. Okay Depends on how much it costs. I might just not buy one because the thing I was most excited about Wait this cost money you offer latest thing I offer zero I don't know. It depends. There was a bunch of things that got me excited in the video. You know, I'm happy with a bigger screen. I'm especially happy about bigger controllers.

My goodness. That was my biggest problem with the original Switch. The controller is just too... I felt like I was doing this the whole time. It was too small. So, happy about both of those things. But honestly, the main thing that I was like, Oh, good, nice, was when they announced backwards compatibility, because I still

have a bunch of Switch games I haven't played. So like, at that point, do I just wait until I've played those, and then get whatever I don't know, they'll have some like cool version or an upgraded version or something down the line. Maybe I get that like, I don't I don't know that I'll get it on release. I think I think I have a backlog of like three different Switch games that I still need to play. So I don't know that I'll get it on release I think I think I have a backlog of like three different switch games that I still need to play so I don't know I'm in no rush Wow Luke being like I have a backlog of three games as though that's gonna impress you guys

Come on What's your unplayed what's your unplayed you look like you have to just give the switch one Because I've way more than that on PC. You can't list, someone said 700 games. You can't list every game you have in Steam. Cause you're not gonna play all of those. You have to be real with yourself when it comes to your backlog. Are you actually going to play this?

If not, get it out of there. You're so passionate. Don't lie to yourself. Why are you so passionate about this? No you don't. You don't have a 700 game backlog. Prove it. Prove it now. That's fair.

That's fair. I can't do that. Prove it. All right. Are you gonna play that game that you got on a humble bundle code literally like 15 years ago? I don't think so. I'm buying one too.

Yeah, of course. The screen honestly looks kind of too big though. Too big. Look at my hands. Oh no, do we have the wrong pro- what do you think about the controllers? I think the controllers are still going to be okay because even I found the original switch kind of crampy. You know what I realized though is I bought an original switch when I had my bottom wisdom

teeth out. It had just come. No way! Oh, it's not gonna line up. The timing's not quite right. I was so close. I got an original Switch and I started Breath of the Wild when I had my bottom wisdom teeth out

because I knew that I was going to be stuck in bed with absolutely nowhere to go and nothing to do. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna get a Switch and I'm gonna play Breath of the Wild. I am having my top wisdom teeth out on Sunday or Monday and Switch 2 announcement, but we were so close. We were very close. We were so close to me playing Switch 2

when I got my top ones out. So Nintendo releases new game consoles on a schedule that is approximately aligned with whenever Linus needs a major tooth extraction Man if you don't get another one, they're just never gonna release another console. I Did I ever send you a picture of what I did during my wisdom teeth thing cuz I got bored I Don't know. I remember you doing too much. Yeah. Because you're Luke.

Yeah. As a given. Got your thumbs on. I had, uh, Emma helped me with this actually, but she, she wanted me to keep it just so I wouldn't have to like hold it there in bed. But we had like a scarf basically that we had put around my head to keep the ice packs in place. Looking like the old lady with the... Yeah, so I just did like a better version strapping it to my head essentially, and then I found a way that my headphones could fit over it.

And then instead of spending it all on bed, I just like sat at the computer and played games with this contraption strapped to my head. And it was awesome. You are such a brilliant idiot. It was great. Imagine having such great mental capacity and using it for that. Much innovation. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Our other question is, what do you think the C button is for? I've seen, what are some of the... Camera is something that it stood for on previous Nintendo consoles. It could be connecting, like if they have like a Wii U type feature where you can remotely stream it. I would love, I would love if they bring back streaming. And there is one somewhat credible, seems pretty credible actually.

There's one credible rumor that would seem to suggest that they might, because it looks like- It's not a C-Stick guys. because it looks like it's not a c-stick guys. It'll no yes Not it looks like the ampere Generation GPU that it allegedly might allegedly have is not equipped with an ampere generation media encoder It has a newer one. Oh, and so the only reason that I could think of why you would bother with that Yeah, is for either locally recording gameplay,

which I don't know, man, that seems kind of far-fetched to me, or streaming, streaming wirelessly. I'd be pretty cool, I'd be into that. Interesting. We've got a comment from dot Justin in the float plane chat. Linus, get Sammy to vlog your wisdom teeth We are so far ahead of you. We have

Really really guys. Oh, you don't even know it. We can't even say really What huh? Is there something I don't know about all right? No, I think I don't know. I'm just gonna stop I don't know how much I can say without getting in trouble from somebody from somewhere. So I'm just gonna stop. Well, anyway, yeah, so Sammy is apparently doing a vlog of me getting my wisdom teeth out. And there's a major hardware release that I will not be able to be involved in.

And my understanding is that Sammy will also be getting a clip of me participating in the only way that I can with my mouth all like swollen and disgusting. That's what I was avoiding saying. Oh yeah, no, no, no, it'll be, I won't get say any more than that. It'll be, basically, it'll be really funny. Don't miss our video.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we will avoid making it actually just gross. So. No, Sammy says in chat, are you leaking about me? Sammy? Yes. Sammy?

Yes. Yeah, thank you. Okay, what else we got? TikTok. Sponsors. Sorry, what does he want to do? You want to do sponsors? Sponsors.

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give you something in return. So you go to LTTstore.com, add something to the cart, and you'll see a little box pop up for a merch message. It'll go to producer Dan, there he is, who will reply reply to you pop your message up down there or curate it For me and Luke to respond to I do that every week You set a record okay Compilation of Dan doing the merch miss message wave when hand airspeed record yeah Yeah, I wanna see you come through. Get out of here, get out of here.

He's too fast. He's gonna take off. He's too fast. Oh. Oh. Sorry, I lost the plot. Where was I? Do you want a merch message?

My hand's shaking. You know what? Why don't I do the announcements first? Yes, that's what's actually happening. For those of you who weren't tuned in at the beginning of the show, we have delayed the launch of our mod mat, not because it's not ready,

but because of stuff I said previously on the show, earlier on the show. So we've gone with our backup launch, which is this pin. Here, hold on, Linus cam. There we go, look at that. We heard you guys like backpacks. So we made a backpack so you can put it on your backpack

while you backpack. That, you could do that. But yeah, you could do that. I mean, technically you could put it on anything. It was designed by the one and only Sarah Butt and it can be yours for the low, low price, not including the Wann corkboard here, of $249.99. As part of our generous offer, we are also including... Oh. an LTT backpack with your purchase of the pin. That makes sense. Get it now at LMG.GG slash backpack pin. And just in case that went over anyone else's head,

not just Luke, it's a free exclusive pin with purchase of an OG backpack while supplies last. Oh! Oh, finally. Our retro monitor pet caves are finally back. Our first stock, I forget how many was in our first order. I wanna say like 400 units or something. I don't know, it was gone in like a day. Oh, it was more than that. It was like four grand or more. What, units?

Yeah, it was a lot. No, no. I thought we went pretty low on that order. Oh, maybe it was the second one. No, I think we went conservative. on that order. Oh, maybe it was the second one. No, I think we went conservative. Anyway, they sold out. 500 apparently. They sold out super fast.

And then we went to reorder them, and the top of production sample that we got back from the factory was unrecognizable. It looked nothing like the first order. And that is why you do a top of production sample before you do the mass production. So we have new ones in that look great. They are up to the standards of quality from the original one,

which my cats absolutely love. Mine too. It's got the same awesome pillow inside that has either a fuzzy side, if you prefer softness, or an easier to clean sleeker side, if you prefer it being easier to clean. And we hedged, we hedged and for the sides, we went with the easier to clean material.

That goes inside. It has little dudes on the bottom to make it so it doesn't slip around as easily. I mean, realistically, if your pet dives into it, it's still gonna move or whatever. And it's designed to look like a retro CRT monitor. It's so cute, it's available on the store. A it's designed to look like a retro CRT monitor it's so cute It's available in the store Minor minor potential problem with the backpack pin

We have pin collectors that try to get all the pins that come up on the store a lot of those pin collectors already own the backpack Do they have any friends who need a backpack? I Don't know how to deal with that. Maybe we could hold some in, tell you what. I have no idea. Maybe just something to think about.

I offer, we hold a handful of them in reserve for the next pin drop. You offer acceptance of that? Is that acceptable? Could we do that? I'll have to wait for okay for the Pinton people to yeah Dan can you maybe can you maybe throw that a message at me like Nick or something like that could we maybe throw that at Nick maybe we hold hold back like some and then we make them go to already for

that oh I don't know if we can because when I announced it I said exclusive so if I if I if that's the So if that's the commitment, then that's the commitment. I don't know guys. I gotta let that team- Yeah, maybe just somebody consider it- I gotta let that team do their strat. I know the pin collectors can get pretty serious about pin collecting. I know. I gotta let that team do their strat.

They don't care a lot about their pins. Okay. Sheesh their pins. Okay Sheesh geez Okay, cool. Let's uh merch massage One person had an idea that if someone has a backpack they could send proof of purchase and then we could make the pin available for purchase independently The problem is that I guarantee you we would sell out all of the pins to the people who already bought backpacks

and I know the idea behind this was that it's like an exclusive pin if you buy a backpack. Let me let the, let's pitch them the ideas and let's let the team make their decision, okay? I can't involve myself in every decision anymore and I can't just like step on their toes. I wasn't trying to get a solution immediately, just maybe somebody. Cool. Nurturtle says what about just for me?

It says every pin collector. What do you want to talk about? A merch message? Right a curated merch message Damn, hey, they're a little strange tonight. Let's see. What's your favorite reptile? Oh Frog Wait for it No, it's not a reptile no, it's an amphibian Lizard I'm just I'm waiting for reddit to correct me Let me think.

No, not dinosaur, they're birds. We think, we're not sure. Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He doesn't do anymore. He got the 2.0 update. That's true. This is true. He hired a brand consultant finally. Yeah. And they even. I should ask who this is and get his contact. This is true. He hired a brand consultant, finally. Yeah. And they even...

I should ask who it is and get his contact. Next time I appear on Tonight Show, if I get a chance. Why would Mark be your favorite? Because it's a funny answer. Sometimes we give you guys a serious answer. Sometimes we just think of the most outlandish thing we can say and blurt it out. And I'll let you guys sort out which one is which. I don't know. I'm looking into what I, I, I Googled reptiles and one of the

things that came up with was birds. You Googled reptiles? Yeah. I wanted to see a bunch of different examples. Why do you gotta Google reptiles? Snake, iguana, turtle? I know some of them, but I was like, what are, what are some like random off the wall ones that I wouldn't necessarily think of? I gotta say, I'm not really a reptile guy. This is why I Googled it. Yeah. I was like, what are some random off the wall ones that I wouldn't necessarily think of? I gotta say, I'm not really a reptile guy. This is why I Googled it. Yeah, I... Again, I know some examples. Like, I think they're cool, which is cool.

I had an iguana when I was a kid. We just ended up with one by accident. Like someone was rehoming one because that's what tends to happen with them. And they don't, they don't like, they don't have like a mammal or like an avian brain. Like they're, like the social, they don't have a, they don't have an instinct to socialize with humans. They just, I mean, yeah, they're cold-blooded, you know?

They're not really very interactive from my experience. Although, I mean, you hear snake owners that are super happy. They love their snakes and stuff. Mr. Dankpots. All right, MikeD78. Linus isn't really a reptile guy. Does that mean he has a reptile dysfunction? Hit the thing.

Can I ding other people? I think you can. I think when it's that good, you can ding the other thing. You can ding the thing. You gotta ding other people? I think you can. I think when it's that good you can ding the other thing. You can ding the thing. You gotta do it. All right. Very good, very good, very good. I'll go with sea turtles. Skink. Okay. Okay. That's a pretty That's a pretty uncontroversial take. Yeah, I'm gonna go with especially the the ones from Finding Nemo.

take. I'm gonna go with... Especially the the ones from Finding Nemo. So the ones that are like surfer dudes? Yeah man. Let's go. Fine. Alright I'm gonna go with Red-eared slider. I'm gonna go with a much smaller turtle. Cool okay. Yeah I actually also had a few turtles when I was a kid. Looking back, man what didn't you have? We went through a lot of pets. I've heard a lot of stories of pets, I've never heard of that one. I don't know what happened to them. Like I just don't remember. You don't eat them. Like it's, this was at my dad's house when I was younger. This wasn't like on the farm where I had a pet goat and was tricked into eating it. No, that was a completely different thing. You don't eat the good one. Yeah, so we had we had Shelly and I want to say like Igor or something because I don't know he

had like a weird... Was Shelly the turtle? Anyway, I think there were either two or three and what I liked about them was we think of turtles as slow or at least tortoises anyway. Oh yeah, dude they can... They frickin' rip. You ever seen a goldfish like swim kind of fast? You ever seen a turtle reach out, bite down on it, and then have the tail and head fall down on both sides of the mouth? No. I have.

Wow. Yeah, they go, dude. They go. They frickin' go. What was the goldfish's name? No, no, they were feeder fish. Goldie? No, no, they're feeder fish.

You don't name a feeder fish. What's your problem? What's wrong with you? That would be terrible. Someone probably does it. Next one? Sure. Hey, Linus, I'm new to PC building, and I instantly fell in love does it. Next one? Sure. Hey Linus, I'm new to PC building and I instantly fell in love with it but I want to actually understand how the

parts work and I'm struggling to find good sources. Any recommendations for learning? Oh, ballsack. What's that channel that has those really cool animated deep breaths? Luke and I were talking about that the other week. I don't remember. I'm looking. It's pretty cool though. Branch education. That's the one. Yeah, go check out branch education.

Really, really good, but still accessible, pretty long form videos on the like. Very cool. On the how does it actually work? Cause we'll give you a very high level what you need to know in order to select the right thing for your build. They get into like, no really, like, how does it?

How do they bin a 3090? It's great. Very cool, yeah, go check out Branch Education. Pretty cool channel. Honestly, just all their stuff is sick. Yeah, really cool. Question for Linus. Did anyone behind the scenes try to talk you out of wearing socks and sandals on network television? On the contrary. I was 50-50. I would have had to

replace my... so the only two pairs of footwork... footwork... sorry, badminton on the brain... the only two pairs of footwear that I own, other than my badminton shoes and my like rain boots and my hiking boots. You know, like like utility shoes Sorry, I have some badminton on the brain. The only two pairs of footwear that I own, other than my badminton shoes, and my rain boots and my hiking boots. You know, like utility shoes. I have a pair of dress shoes, but they're super basic. Are my Vessi's. So I have my sandals and I have my Vessi's.

Those are the only two daily driver footwear's that I have. But my Vessi's are scuffed. You've had them for a long time. Yup, yup. Are those the ones you wore to Tiffany's? This is primer. Probably. Yes, I wore these to Tiffany's.

All right, we didn't get to see them when you were talking about that. That's paint, oh no, that's primer. This is from priming James', like writing lead James' kitchen cabinets. He asked very nicely to use my new fancy sprayer James's, like writing lead James's kitchen cabinets. He asked very nicely to use my new fancy sprayer and my spray booth, and then I ended up, I didn't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

he did most of it after the first day, but I showed him how it works, and I was like, see you later, he's like, oh, okay, okay, I guess I'm helping get things going. But that's fine, you know what, you know what? It was actually fun because people don't ask me. People never ask me to like help them move or like do guy stuff together,

like when they have a project that needs to be done. Even you don't do it. I don't need much. Okay, that's true Anyway, oh man these things these things are terrible look at the bottom I am fairly certain that it used to say Vessi somewhere on the bottom I Can't even imagine where I Don't see it at all. Oh here it is. Oh Wow, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can tell it cuz the triangles aren't there that makes sense

Yeah, that used to say that used to say Vessi just looked particularly more worn than the rest Yeah, you can really see you can really see my I'm sure I'm sure man Every time I get like I get medical analysis of like anything that I taught I'm sure that the foot experts out there are definitely are sending me sending me DMs on the forum right now. You should get some. Well, you probably don't actually have this problem that much because of your sandal usage, but I've been trying to look into like wide toe box shoes. Anyways, that's a whole lot.

Anyway, I was on the fence. I was 50-50. I was like, there's no way I can wear these on the show. I don't have time to get new ones. So I'd have to just like go get something the morning of. You don't want to do that to Vesey to be honest. Yeah right. Yeah it's not really fair. And then I was like but realistically like I don't know it's kind of part of the shtick it's kind of part of the character to do the socks and sandals thing because I unironically do really like that style of footwear. Well I don't like the style what I like is the comfort. You know they're're comfortable, they're warm enough, but super breathable. Nothing beats the breathability of a completely open shoe. And then it was actually Nick Light. The creative warehouse Nick, who was like, if you don't do it, I'll riot.

Okay, all right. Let's go Nick. And then obviously I wanted to put on the prototype socks, so that they're really good. I don't know if they're done done, but they're... We're getting there? They aren't the same as my Darn Toughs, but what they are is also extremely good in slightly different ways. Sure. And I'm pretty excited. Are you going with the like, it has to not be worse?

Yeah, I don't expect to beat them. Darn Tough makes outstanding socks and I would never say a negative thing about the quality of their product, period, regardless of whether we're a competitor or whatever. Right now we're not, but we'd like to be. But that doesn't change the fact that they make a darn good sock.

And tough. Do it. It applies to him too. Give me Dan. Holy schnikes, are there ever a lot of merch messages today? I think we're doing another one too. What the heck are you people buying? Are they all pins? Yeah, lots of pins.

Oh, alright, that makes sense. You want another one? People like pins. I can see that. People also like precision screwdrivers and bitcases. And Northern Lights desk pads. Wow, actually there's a lot of variety today. Interesting. Oh, pet caves. Yeah, pet caves. Get them pet caves. Couch potato hoodies. Okay, yeah, I'm just curious. Alright, next up. Okay, Dan, hit me. Hey, LLD, last week you mentioned we're

moving away from common GPU framework that all vendors could use. Would an open standard that could make use of NVIDIA Tensor and AMD Intel cores be possible? Well, I think, like we've seen in the past, we're going to start with, like we saw with G-Sync, for instance. We're going to start with vendor proprietary implementations, and then over time, we're going to watch the rest of the industry play catch- up, and at such point as they play catch up well enough, the proprietary standard will become meaningless and go away.

That is kind of our best case scenario. It's like with a lot of this stuff, right? Like AI right now, everybody's talking about AI all the time to the point where it gets incredibly exhausting and annoying. Eventually that will just be part of the product. Like I don't think every single thing is called smart anymore.

Because it's like just kind of assumed. Okay, I did a retake on a video recently because I referred to my phone as a smartphone. And I was like, what am I talking about? What is a not smartphone? Sorry, let's redo the clip. I didn't even think about it until that very moment, which was I think in the last week or two.

So it's funny that we're talking about this so close to it. But it's pretty interesting. Yeah, you don't say smart TV. You don't say smartphone. Well, and I've been seeing, you know, you see ads, especially coming off of CES, you see all these things that are claiming like, now with AI features, meh.

And it's like, this will be really cool when that goes away and it like will because eventually that's not gonna be exciting Yeah, it's not gonna be a selling point because you're all gonna have the same baseline level of that Junk and then you're gonna have to find something else to be the selling point and everyone will move on You know what I figured out though is in a way I Actually, I think I get it a bit more get what the inclusion of that AI. Yeah, it's got AI It's got AI. It's with AI now. It makes sense. Well Even even even if the AI like doesn't really do that much because you know what it does is

It tells you at a glance that this is the new one mmm, if Everyone is calling their latest product this AI, then if you throw AI on your latest model name, you don't have to rely on everyday average consumer to know if the ThinkPad X2695 Mark IV is the latest thing. You just need to know, oh, it's the new AI one. That's all you need to know. And I guess from just like a completely normy

branding standpoint, I get it. That's rough. Even if it irritates me, the like, tell me how many stream processes are in it and how much cash it has guy, doesn't really care about that The worst version of that was when everything was called one That's not over I didn't like X

Pissed me off. Yeah, it's a lot of people skipped nine to go to And then they expect you to say ten yeah,, I refuse. One is still a thing though. Like Dan, what's your phone called? Mine is the one five. And they just know it's the one V because the second part of the numbers in the Roman numerals but they also have the five. So it's the five five and the five's the bad one.

Sony man, get it together. What are they doing? Get it together Sony with your Xperia phones. We got, Gressy99 asking, badminton hall update when? Actually, big news. Oh?

The replacement floor has arrived on the 16th. So yesterday, yesterday. What's the ETA on them being in then? I don't know. But, I would like to, I would like- Is it March. I would like to get a shout out Why what's happening in March? I think I've called this for like a year and a half

Dad's been saying it's gonna be March this year bastard for like at least a year I think when we started last year in January. Yeah, I would like to call out shout January. I would like to call out, shout out, I would like to shout out Calibre Sports Systems. These guys are the installer for our floor. We obviously had the quality issue with the initial product. But I have had so many contractors make that my problem over the years. And these guys, to their credit,

have not breathed a word about any kind of additional labor charge in spite of the enormous amount of extra work that it's gonna be to uninstall one of their things and then reinstall some other product that we ordered separately. They gave me a very fair credit for the material that we weren't using.

And they're not done yet, but they have acted in such good faith that I just wanted to, I just wanted to shout them out as one of the first like contractor companies that I have encountered here in the lower mainland that does not seem to f*** around. So yeah, thanks guys. Shout out, appreciate you. They've been so communicative and about like getting on site and coordinating with the delivery of the of the new flooring material and everything. So we're really excited to be open open. We we launched our memberships on the 14th. So memberships are active. We have I don't know if I should. We have a lot of members immediately, which is pretty exciting. We did a

founding membership deal at a discount and just to get some momentum and I'm very excited about it. It's gonna be awesome. All right. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Riafellou says, why is the backpack and ammo pin $250? Oh no, they figured it out, they figured it out. Ugh. Linus, you should know better. Comes with a backpack. Okay. What are we supposed to be doing right now?

You should probably do the rest of your topics. Oh, topics, yes. And then we'll do merch messages after that. Okay, so I have a Bamboo Labs printer. Other than mistakes that I have made that have made it not work as well, it has been fairly reliable. So basically what I'm trying to say is

I've spent a lot of time fixing it, but it's mostly on me. I have my setup locked in right now and my kids love it, especially my eldest daughter. She is constantly on the bamboo printer. Her latest thing is printing out things to paint. Oh, that's cool Yeah, super cool. That's actually I don't think I've seen a ton of examples That's such a good idea. That makes a ton of sense. Yes, it's thanks So she'll she'll print out things that she'll so she she printed out a bunch of flexi cats and painted them like all of our cats Oh that with Yvonne and her sister anyway anyway she's having a blast with it oh my

god can she paint our birds I don't see why not yeah sure yeah message my son you have him on on social well not now, but like, I just mean whenever. My brain is a sieve, I will forget this. Well, it's not that important. I'm sending you a scheduled message. Oh, thanks Dan. So Bamboo. Dan, it was me. Bamboo, this is not cool.

I just wanna shout out Nick Johnson in the Bamboo Lab subreddit, who put together what I think is such a succinct, thorough, respectful post about what a big deal it is that bamboo labs is removing third-party printer access. If... What's that? What does that mean? Basically what it means is that you will not have the ability to use third-party software such as orcaslicer or panda touch. It will not have the ability to use third party software, such as OrcaSlicer or PandaTouch. It will not be able to connect directly to your printer. That's icky.

This is, well, it's icky and it's also, according to Bamboo Labs, to help with authentication on the printer to avoid any kind of remote access by a malicious third party to the camera, for instance, or to print to your printer. This seems like they could have implemented it better if they weren't rushing and in such a way that it doesn't break this compatibility but what

what Nick Johnson encourages people to do and this is why I like his post so much is he doesn't just whine. I can't believe I'm on Reddit right now. What you can do about it. Don't update your printer's firmware. They will likely be tracking installation counts. Make it clear you won't run this firmware. Contact Bamboo Labs. Politely express your concerns using their support portal and he actually provides some templates for you to copy paste what your concerns are. Vote with your wallet. Stop buying bamboo labs consumables

and consider alternatives until they reverse course. Withdraw your support on MakerWorld and spread the word. So professional. Yeah. What person working communication? I don't know, but shout out and I agree I will not be updating my printer because I love having convenient unauthenticated remote access and it sits in a room where I Quite frankly couldn't care less if somebody's looking at the camera of what I'm printing

So that's that's my that's my stance on it. I don't believe they can force an update I just hope my kids don't accidentally do it. I'll have to after mind them about that That's how I ended up with Windows 11 on my VR PC. And like it broke a bunch of driver stuff. Like thank you Microsoft for your update freaking dark patterns. Anyway, so yeah, I wanted to get that one out there. That was just a quick random mention. What else we got today? Ooh, do you want to get into like a main topic? Oh my goodness, we have so many topics left, Luke. What are we going to do? Yeah, sure. Goodbye, TikTok. Today, January 17th, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld the federal ban of TikTok starting Sunday the 19th. It's coming

very soon. Since it failed to be sold to an American based company, the origin of the ban was concerns over security risks due to its ties to China. Well, sorry, with White House press secretary, ooh, Karine Jean-Pierre, saying TikTok should remain available to Americans, but simply under American ownership or other ownership that addresses the national security concerns identified by Congress in developing this law.

President-elect Donald Trump has expressed interest in looking into this and possibly reverting the ban once he takes office. The app also will not be deleted from phones similar to, this is a side note, but similar to Flappy Bird back in the day. Yeah, remember if you had a phone that had Flappy Bird. Yeah, it was like worth more money on eBay. Yeah, you could sell it. Like an old iPod or whatever you could. Yeah, we might literally have that again, which is kind of wild, but we'll see. So yeah, it won't be deleted from phones,

but it will be removed from app stores, receive no more updates, and the US-based servers and connections will be, oh, whoa. The US-based servers and connections will be disconnected on January 19th. Okay, interesting. I don't know how much that's gonna matter. It's probably fine. Canadian data server is gonna go hard. It's gonna go hard. Burr.

Yeah. Anyways, as a result in the last week, Hua Zhao Hong Xu? Red Note. AKA Red Note. Skyrocketed to number one on the US app store as TikTok users migrated over in preparation for the TikTok ban.

So I wanna jump in with a little insert here. I was talking to Andy from our team who's been on Red Note for a while, and he absolutely loves it. He showed me a bunch of really cool features. The browse functionality is honestly really cool. You can browse by interests and stuff like that up at the top level. You can post more than just videos. you can post videos, but you can live stream, uh, you can post text along with your video, you can post pictures, like you can kind of post anything on it. Um, and the discussion, uh, the discussion functionality under the posts is

really rich. You can interact with other people's posts, you can post pictures. Oh wow, in the discussion. Yeah, and there's thread, like thread-based discussions. That's pretty much it. It looks very interactive. If only the end user license agreement didn't basically... wasn't much worse than TikTok. I was reading through a summary of it, and it's like... basically you just yield everything to the to the Chinese Communist Party like okay sure excuse me Communist Party of China sorry

President Xi sorry anyway carry on. I saw some some some joke about the North American users ignoring the TOS for Red Note. Just like, oh well. Anyways. Okay, let's see. Yeah, as TikTok users migrated over in preparation with the TikTok band, with some people even making a joke

about moving to an even more Chinese app, saying things like, I signed up specifically so the CCP can get their data. Elijah says, my favorite comment on this so far was, realistically, TikTok hasn't had my SIN, phone number, address, email, bank details, or insurance details leak. Whereas every American app has! So as far as I'm concerned, the CCP can have it. At least they're taking better care of it. That's funny, but actually I don't support that attitude. It is funny though.

We're making hee-hee-hahas. Unfortunately, this migration has bothered some of the existing user base. Okay, I'm gonna add some editorialization to this in a second, but unfortunately, I'm gonna say what it says. Unfortunately, the migration has bothered some of the existing user base, with Red Note even releasing an update to allow filtering of IPs,

which could block off Chinese Americans from trying to connect back home with family or friends. I have also heard that it's actually been super wholesome as well. There's been a lot of like, friendly bonding over it. I'm sure, I'm 100% certain some people are bothered. They just, I'm sure, I'm 100% certain some people are bothered. They just, this community of people that used an app just got plowed over by this massive wave of people diving and be like, what is this? What's happening here? What's going on?

And that's gonna be fun for some people, it's not gonna be fun for other people. But there was like, there was Americans helping Chinese people with their English homework. There was like all this like, just asking questions back and forth, like really interesting conversation. Don't ask me how I know, but orphaned communities can often be very warmly received by the users

of the orphanage, of the absorbing community. Like for instance, I have heard tell that private trackers that get shut down will sometimes be adopted by other private tracker communities. I don't know, it's like a weird Linux thing that I don't really know anything about. Sharing ISOs and yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, American social media apps want users though,

with Substack even offering a $25,000 tick-tock liberation prize to users who post the best TikTok to inspire people to join sub stack sure. I don't think that's gonna happen, bruh But anyways nice try There's a lot of discussion questions here, but realistically, I don't think we're gonna get into does banning a communication app go against the whole point of the First Amendment? We'll let the Americans sort that out. Good luck, America. That's not even our country, so have fun.

See you later. We have enough problems of our own right now. Should I run? Should I run for prime minister? Well, I just unplugged myself, but yeah, do it. Do it. Do it! Then you can sign Linus Town into law. No, Canada will just become Linus Town. Our currency isn't going to be worth anything anyways pretty soon, so you can just... Linus Coin can just take over the CAD.

Okay. The great white tips. Okay. Hear me out. Great white tips. Okay, hear me out. Great white north. If, if the US proposal for absorbing us, hold on, hold on. If the, just, hold on, listen to me. If the US proposal for absorbing us, because realistically, I mean-

Trade deal mode. I mean, most of the states seem to operate like their own bloody countries anyway. Yeah, is that the point? So if we were if we were formally all individual states Okay, so we're the 51st 52nd 53rd, etc. If we were all individual states hold on hold on hold on With our own state constitutions. Are they actually numbered started? No, I don't think so

Is there an order? Is there an official order? I don't know. I'm not an American geography major. Okay, hold on, hear me out, hear me out. So if we were all individual states with our own state constitutions, like they have, okay? Yep. And the deal was, hey, if you don't do a rebellion very much, we will trade your Canadian dollars one to one for US dollars as part of making you formally American. Rate your warmth about the idea on a scale of one to ten.

For myself, like, I'm fine. So, zero. That would probably be really good for a lot of people though. Like genuinely Canada's economy is in the disgusting dumps. Like it's really bad. And basically every indicator we have is that it's probably going to get worse before it gets better. For quite a few years. And we have no indication of what could be coming in the future that will make it better. None.

Like it's horrible. We're propped up by real estate in much the same way that the Chinese economy was for a long time. And we just have nothing else going for it though. Yeah. Like they did. Yeah. They were the world's shopping mall, right?

Everyone buys things from China. Yeah, I don't, I'm not going to go into all that, but it would, it would honestly save like a lot of people. I don't know. I've had this same thought, but kind of different. Like have you, have you seen, he's kind of posture to everything that's near him right now. So that he's looking at Greenland, Canada, Mexico, right? Just, I don't know, if I just spin around in a circle, what do my arms hit? And... Cuba! Have you looked at the... No, not us again! Please! We're finally left out. Population of... I mean, that's sort of their whole issue. Greenland. Why can't I type? Yeah, so I looked this up. Greenland. Why can't I type? Yeah, so I looked this up.

What is this Google Trends? A population of Greenland. Greenland is growing like crazy. Oh no, it's flat. No, it's really flat. Oh no, it's super flat. Sorry, I didn't realize the time scale I was looking at. There's also- I thought I was looking at like the last couple years. Wait, there's only 56,000 people in Greenland. It's the whole place. So- Okay, it's not as big as it looks on your flat map though. That is something to consider. Canada also isn't either, but Greenland gets that real hard. When you scale Greenland down, it's not as big.

It's not as big as you think. But still, 56,000 people. He could, if it came, I don't think it would, really. Because it's Denmark, right? But if it came I don't think it would really yeah Because it's Denmark right, but if it came down to a vote of people in Greenland Not in Denmark you could definitely just like hard by everyone There's only 56,000 of them you could like how much would it cost to make all of the millionaires? Probably thousand million dollars and what you would expect to buy a country.

Yeah, I mean, I guess. But I mean, buying countries and stuff like was a thing. It's not like the US didn't buy a lot of the land that is now currently the United States of America. Yeah, however legit those deals were. Well, that's all. That's all. Not a US geography and also not a US history major.

So yeah, maybe don't listen to us. But yeah, I just I think it's there's really not that many people. Like there's more people in there's way more people in Langley. I know you haven't done the math. So how much money do you actually think that is to make every person in Greenland a millionaire? Don't know. What were you what would did you have in mind? 5.6? So it's 56 billion. That's a lot of money One factor off. I mean realistically is it for the states? I mean is money even real? American like yearly is money even real for America? That's uh times what Jeff Bezos made in 2024.

See, that's why I'm going to the gold standard with my personal finances. Oh, you won my vote. I will no longer be dealing in paper money from here on out. Oh, you're just gonna gold brick people It's right up. I need to buy my land plane Anyways yeah federal but what's funny for 2022 was six point five six point seven five trillion Okay, they'll probably handle it. I think they'd be I think they could buy that a million dollars You know what's funny one of the Porsche dealerships that I was talking to when I bought my Taycan told me that they like

regularly deal in all kinds of Like like really not legal tender things. Whoa, like like yeah You could if you brought in if you could have the assayed value proven or whatever Like they'd basically take anything for payment. I was like, what? Or was it Porsche or was it another brand? I don't remember, but yeah, I did encounter a car dealership once that like brought up,

unprompted, that they would take gold for payment. I was like, are you kidding me? So I could buy a car with doubloons? People are yelling at me about American things. I don't know dude I don't care we're Canadians so it's like look at the American debt clock I don't even know it's crazy you don't know what

the debt clock is oh this thing's crazy hold on hold on the debt clock we trust me guys we have so many so many problems up here real time we're gonna look at ourselves for a little while real time Kevin's got some work to do okay here we go this is money gained value. Okay, I don't know. I don't know what can I make this go away? I just want to see the debt clock.

It looks like you installed all the browser parts. Okay, whatever. The point is here. So you can watch the debt per citizen and you can watch the US national debt go up. So that just ticked over a million dollars. just ticked over a million dollars. Whoa. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha. Let's just wait for the rest of this million. So we've done half a million dollars

since I said a million dollars. Like they do have some challenges as well. They do have some challenges as well. There you go, there's another million dollars. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah, good luck America. But at that point, what's 56 billion more?

It's just by a whole country. Can you imagine the amount of minerals that are under that huge punk of rock? Maybe there's some, ah! I don't know. I don't know, maybe it's me. Don't say it. Maybe.

They'll hear you. Don't say it. Maybe there's some oil in there. No! No! No! Let's go! Open up! I'll hear you You guys do know what he's doing right this is all a distraction so they don't come for Canada No rats, that's it it's just mountains and And and then less mountainous areas. Yeah, this is you want to know interesting Canada facts

map map of Rats in the world is second. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the best Canada fact. Oh, dude. Yeah, here Luke laptop global rat distribution There's just So where it's completely freezing cold, there's no rats and then randomly There's just... So where it's completely freezing cold there's no rats and then randomly there's just this little thing there because for some reason one of our provinces just doesn't... they

eradicated rats. They went hard. They went super hard. They did the like Australian Emu War but they did it against rats and they won. Yeah, they actually eliminated rats. They won. From the province of Alberta, which is hilarious. Insane. So while you guys are busy like-

It's a cool story. It's a cool rabbit hole. A rat hole. In American things. A rat hole sounds like a way worse thing than a rabbit hole. Yeah. Have you heard of it? What is it called? The Rat King? No. Yeah, those are sad. Rat King?

A Rat King. Yeah, you don't. Rat king. Rat king. Yeah. You don't actually want to like show this on screen. A rat king is a collection of mice or rats whose tails are intertwined and bound together in some way. They get like stuck and they're like climbing over each other or whatever. Their tails get tied together and then they get stuck and they can't work out of it. And it's like actually horrible. They just die. Yeah.

Oh. So you end up finding this like- Why are you being such a downer? Bundle of, I don't know. This is why we have to get rid of them. Yeah. Okay. Alberta cured the world. Alberta led the way.

They led the way. Yeah. Linus Media Group has started posting our internal 3D printing designs. Oh, that's good news. That's a good idea. Yeah, let's go with that. So I asked for this like over a year ago.

Anyway, it takes time. It takes time for us to compile things and have someone take the lead. This is not a revenue generating activity. So just because I asked for it, doesn't mean that people are like, I will immediately work on this because it's the most valuable thing I can do.

I get it. People prioritize, but it is something that I have followed up on sometimes because we design all this cool stuff, CPU holders, screwdriver holders, all kinds of stuff and I... Someone said rat kings are a myth, I'm gonna decide that is a fact and just move on. Okay cool, so we design all kinds of cool stuff and then we just we just sit on it, we do nothing with it, we have no like universal repository for it to make, even for us internally to make it easier to find all of these design files.

Hey, where's the rest of our stuff? We're working on it. Okay. So anyway, it's finally there. Printables.com at Linus Tech Tips. So we've got the magnetic cable management power bar screwdriver holder. So it's got the, basically it's got the little keyhole in the back so that you can put our magnetic cable management on it and you can just attach your screwdriver to anything metal yeah which is pretty cool we've got the desk pad tester I mean yeah sure why why not our hot air

rework station tip rack we've got our Sonos connect amp wall mount that was a damn good that one I'm very proud of that. We've got our fiber insulation wall mounting plates. These are super cool. These are from Jake's video where we acoustically treated the server room. Those are sick. It'd be kind of cool for us to include. Oh yeah, so there you can see.

It's driven into the stud behind it. And then it holds the insulation onto the wall. And then we put duvetyne. And then we have this metal plate here. So you just put a ring magnet on it to hold the duvetyne, and then we have this metal plate here, so you just put a ring magnet on it to hold the duvetyne or to hold the fabric in place over top of it. That was from before we launched MCM, so we just had buckets and buckets of ring magnets.

Oh, that makes sense. So we have a bunch more stuff that we're gonna be adding over time. People are already remixing them, which is super exciting for me. I think that's super cool. I want us to be part of that part of that culture you know I want us to contribute yeah I'll source a bunch of lab stuff so we do

this to that's cool Spurger and full plane chat said there's more there is more I know of at least a few I have so many yeah because we have the the CPU trays the CPU trays they're all, because we have the the CPU trays. The CPU trays, they're all individualized We have the RAM trays. We've got all the random garbage I've done I bet you they're trying to figure out how to do things like the individualized stuff. I don't know. No, no They're all like, you know, just SDLs Yeah, but like Filing them nicely, I guess. Maybe, I mean, you just like name them.

Name them, yeah, maybe that's enough. I don't know. Dang it, I'm just trying to figure out why they wouldn't be up, but. I'm trying to find a. Effort. Unfair. Would you want me spending a few hours uploading everything?

No, no. There you go. So you didn't do this, right? There we go. Took me a while to find it because this may surprise you but the subreddit is Pretty active a little busy. Yeah, they're doing stuff check this out They've been cordial somebody already remixed it to go on the the Ikea wall now thing. Oh nice That's awesome a lot of people have those so that's probably good

Yeah, so I want to I want to see more of that kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm like yeah I don't know it's cool. It's ever since I remember I think I was I think I was sitting in the Creator Warehouse engineering area and I was looking at someone had created like a really cool holder for I don't even think it was for a finished product it was for like keeping track of the parts for an in-progress project and I was like we designed so much cool like 3d printed crap and I know you designed that there's no way that you downloaded something specifically like and and they're like oh yeah it doesn't take that long and I'm like right but it takes a long time for people who aren't you so we should release this stuff this

would be so cool so we're finally freaking doing it and I'm really excited about it yeah that's it okay what else are we about? What you want to talk about next? Oh It says we plan to publish a new model at least once a quarter so the next one would be sometime in March Oh, we could do them faster than you guys send it Well, okay, well I will advocate internally for us to hurry our butts up and get more stuff up there, okay Send it. I want the CPU holders up there. People have asked for them so many times. Send it. Is anyone watching from whoever's working on this?

No, I don't see anyone in chat. Okay, cool. Linus' A plus certification was ripped right directly out of his hands. He was holding onto it and he went, no! Denied. Three months after our video on CompTIA's A-plus exam was removed from YouTube and Flowplane, Linus' A-plus certification was finally revoked.

We received an email from Pearson View's credly digital credential service late last week and confirmed it via CompTIA's verification website. We can check for ourselves live on the show if you guys would like here we go We will do now. Watch it be reinstated, it'll be genuinely funny. Okay. FMKV7. Are you a robot? Uh, oh. What the type of code? Oh, oh. Oh balls. Well, there's your problem. No robot could be this stupid, so I'm sure this will work.

This certificate... Oh! No longer valid oh the tonight show is going to be embarrassed bringing on a tech guy a tech person on who doesn't even have who doesn't even have a plus certification from on certified from Comtea non certified fail absolute failure that's

rough well hey we are coming up on the five-year of the I'm Thinking of Retiring stream, so... It's over now. Maybe I only needed to think about it for just five years. Unfortunately, it was forced. And then I'll be right- you know what? Sorry, I'm coming back to this night show again because I gotta say... I feel actually kind of invigorated by it. actually kind of invigorated by it. I feel like it's an opportunity for us to get, for us to share that like, like real, real tech shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With a completely new audience. And I find that really exciting. That's cool. Yeah, anyway. Nice. I'm thinking of doing a five year update stream or five year update video.

I've been kind of putting it off. I've had a lot on my mind lately. You don't say. Yeah. Sammy wanted me to do it as a short. I'm like, Sammy. No, dude. I'm like, Sammy, how am I supposed to do this as a short?

He's like, don't worry, I'll cut it down. I'm like, Sammy, if I do like how I've been feeling for the last five years, you're not gonna be able to cut it down to three minutes. He's like, I could do it. I'm like, Sammy, no, we're not shooting this today. He tried to get me to shoot it today, right before Wensha. Sammy, I love you, dude, but.

He's trying to hit his quotas, man. Yeah, yeah, no, no, he's, dude, dude's a hustler. I had to talk to him at CES about not biting off too much sometimes. He's a hustler, he's a hustler. Yeah. He's a hustler. And he works hard for the Float Playing community. He really does. I think he genuinely like cares about the floater. He does. A lot. I see him in the comments all the time. Yep. Yep. No, no. Love Sammy. There was, I was, I was looking through the comments on one of my show tour videos, which I had actually a lot of fun filming. Oh, yeah, that's uh, these are hilarious dude.

You watched it? I was watching, I watched this, this is probably my, when I left off, someone sent me this. Sammy just bashing that robot was so funny. Okay, that was a good one, wait for it. Yeah, that's the one that you did. Wait for it, wait for it. Boom! for it yeah that's the one that you did wait for it wait for it what's this robot worth I think it's a hundred grand beat it but yeah in that video I was going through the comments and I saw this like disparaging comment

about Sam yeah so I was about to respond to it to be like hey like what the heck and then I realized it was Sammy Yeah, he's got a very he's got a very self-deprecating yeah self-deprecating sense of humor Okay, so my A plus certification has been revoked this is cool, man. I love it when this kind of thing happens Also also spotted on the subreddit... Audient? This seems like the kind of thing Dan would have heard of. Dan, do you know Audient? Oh my goodness, I'm on the wrong audio output. It sounded cool though. Yeah, that definitely got my attention. So they did a promotional video for a new audio interface

with a lot of inputs and a lot of outputs. Yeah, are they still relevant? I don't know. They're relevant to me, check this out. Wait for it, wait for it. All this in one URAC space. Whoa, what's that? Yo! Yo!

Let's go. Cause you know, you know that these guys are not a big enough company that they like went and sourced an LTT backpack to specifically feature it. Probably just like the guys there, one of them just has the LTT bag and was like, I have a backpack that it will fit in. I got this cool like backpack that fits all the tech stuff.

Why don't we put it in? Ah, I love it! Very cool. I think I have a bunch of their vintage gear. Very cool. So I don't know much about their products or anything. I don't do that world very much, but definitely appreciated Mr. RubberDucky99 for spotting that in their ID48 audio interface promotional video.

I used to use their microphone preamps. They make some amazing stuff. So you could spot the extra riveted top handle as well as of course the orange internals. Yeah, very cool. Should we do our review embargo's bad thing? First we should do discussion question. How's it feel to see CW slash LTT products

just popping up in unexpected places? It's so cool, I love it. And- CW slash LTT products just popping up in unexpected places? It's so cool I love it and usually end up seeing the screwdriver. I don't like is also cool I don't know why it surprises me that much like we've sold Literally, I mean this in a literal sense hundreds of thousands of screwdrivers at this point like they are out there We have sold tens of thousands of backpacks at this point. They're out there But it still tickles me because I'm just like No way

You know, it's cool. I watch a bunch of like DIY content and stuff on YouTube I mentioned earlier. I don't watch TV. I do watch a heckin YouTube for sure And every once in a while You know, they'll pull one out and I'll just be like, oh! And you can tell like, it's worn. Yeah. It's like nice. That's what I like to see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, all right, you've actually used this a bunch. Yeah, because you got it and you're just like, damn. Damn. Damn. He's nice. I love it. You say, our Buffalo says,

does it make you feel like a real company? Yeah, in a big way. Because between like doing the sponsorships and stuff like that, where we've actually like sponsored creators, between seeing people just in the real world, just fricking using it. One of my favorite posts that I see is,

I am a X technician. Here's my driver with ex-thing that I work, that I'm working on right now in the background. And we see people posting planes and boats and all manner of machinery. And it's super cool, it's super cool. What? Mempokon said more screwdrivers than people in Greenland.

Oh, by a long shot. We might have sold about as many backpacks as people in Greenland. So we could have equipped the entire country of Greenland. But no, not quite. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we count the commuter bag, I think we've sold enough backpacks to equip everyone in Greenland. Nice.

We're not going to do that because I'm not the American government and I can't just print money, but well, I guess. The Canadian government and I can't just print money, but. Well, I guess. Well, Canadian government can. I guess I could. And does. Nice. Our printer works very well as well.

Both countries have fantastic printers. It's not worth as much. So all things considered, we have to overclock our printer by about 44%. Extremely high performance printer. In. Our review embargo is bad. Okay so I saw or rather not I saw but I have observed a trend. A trend that seems to be picking up steam. And I noticed a lot in our coverage at CES this year of people feeling like and expressing their feeling that review embargoes or basically literally anything other than all the information all at once is like unethical. like it's scummy, it's awful.

And so I guess what I wanna talk about is why information embargoes do exist and the pros and cons for all of the various parties involved. There are definitely cons, and I think they are sometimes abused by companies. So it depends on, as we go through this, one of the nuances to keep in mind is how they're used. Absolutely.

The idea of one embargo for one product is not always how it goes. It's actually, depending on what company it is, sometimes that's very far from the reality. Yeah, we've had, we've called out Nvidia in the past for taking one GPU and saying, okay, here's the embargo for the announcement it exists. Here's the embargo.

And I'm exaggerating a little bit. Okay, I'm gonna add some extras, but multiple embargoes for one product. So I'm not gonna say Nvidia anymore. I'm just gonna say we have had companies, hit us with variations of, Dan are we okay? Sorry, just saying a screen cap. Hit us with variations of here's the embargo for that it exists at all. Here's the embargo for the basic specs

Here's the embargo for some new technology that it supports or a deeper dive Here's the embargo for the unboxing. Here's the embargo for performance analysis It's like okay, that's clearly because you're trying to milk content. Yes, you're trying to extend the news cycle as long as possible, essentially asking the media to do free advertising for you. Because a lot of that stuff is not really asking them

to do any, like, input anything. They're just repeating what you've told them because that's like input anything they're just repeating what you've told them because that's the only information they have however that doesn't always mean that that's a bad thing a lot of the time what happens with a show like CES because it happens on these days is that companies aren't fully ready yet this may surprise you but companies are made up of people who, like you, stayed up late playing video games sometimes and missed a deadline sometimes,

or ran into a challenging problem sometimes. And you know what? The one that they have at CES on those days might be held together by wood screws and duct tape, and it might not be ready to be benchmarked. Honestly, I was kind of taken aback when Nvidia allowed us to game on the 5090 at all. Yeah.

Under any circumstances, when AMD allowed us to game on the Ryzen AI Max Plus, at all, the fact that AMD let me pick the game. Yeah, that was pretty wild. I was blown away. That's not normal. None of that is normal. That was pretty cool of them to take this- Usually you can't even open the settings screen, let alone change settings, let alone change the game, et cetera.

To take this pre-release, not fully ready for consumer prime time stuff and let us show it early demonstrates a lot of confidence and actually a relatively high degree of openness. And then to kind of see this, I don't know, this sentiment that was pervasive in the comments that they were scummy for not letting us do more. It's not a performance review. And even if they did let me do everything that I could possibly want to, I don't have time. Like, I've got maybe an hour. Especially to have proper rigor. Well, yeah, exactly. So, I don't know. And realistically, they gave us enough that we were able to give you guys something, you know, especially the

Ryzen AI Max. The fact that we could play that game at all. And like, don't go conspiracy theory, guys. I saw people being like, yeah, that scene, they picked that scene because it's relatively light. No, I picked that scene because I haven't actually played Black Myth Wukong yet. And I just bought it. I bought it in AMD's booth.

And that's the beginning of the game. That's why I just bought it. I bought it in AMD's booth and that's the beginning of the game. That's why I ran that scene. And the reason that we picked Black Muth Wukong was because it's a really demanding game and I wanted to see can this thing do console level graphics in a thin like tablet like device and that happened to be the game that MSI in the next booth over had on a drive. Guys, sometimes it ain't that deep. Yeah. And so yeah, I thought that was really cool.

I think it's a really exciting chip. That was genuinely pretty awesome. Anyway, so we've got a kind of a summary from the writing team that they put together and of the pros and cons. So pros, from a brand perspective, you have time to communicate your message and your product details to reviewers.

Because otherwise, think about it, you can't brief everybody at once on a new product. You could do a Zoom call, but people are gonna have questions, they'll have follow-ups. You need time to disseminate information. So having a gap between when you first start doing that and when everyone can go public with it buys you time. The brand also has time to address potential

issues before public release of the information and even potentially public release of the product. We have seen problems that have been found by reviewers that have been fixed by the time the product hits the product. We have seen problems that have been found by reviewers that have been fixed by the time the product hits the public. Now, should brands be using reviewers as beta testers? No, probably not. And does that create a huge amount of extra burden

in some cases, because you have to redo all your testing once they patch it? Yeah, and that's not cool and that's not fair, but is that way better than a buggy product hitting consumers? Absolutely. Of course. Cons. You can lose buzz around the launch if reviews are delayed, especially if the details leak early. I think there are exceptions to this. I don't think Nintendo has lost any Switch 2 buzz because of all the leaks, if anything. Dude, did you see the views on that video?

That's one thing I don't think we actually talked about. Number one trending. Yeah, I checked the views on the Steam Deck and it beat the views on the Steam Deck in two hours. Yeah, yeah. All time Steam Deck. All Nintendo would have to do to be the top YouTuber in the world

is release new console every day. It's already at 16 million views. That's wild. That's gonna be interesting. Okay, so another con. It could be seen as an attempt to control the narrative or limit transparency. And in some cases, we have seen that. For reviewers, a pro is that it gives all the reviewers a shared deadline and takes away the some of the sort of feeling that you can have that you like need to rush in order to in order to

like support yourself in your livelihood and hit the content earlier because there is a strong financial, not to mention just like dopamine incentive to publishing something that gets a lot of views. You might still have- That's very human. A very considerable amount of pressure. Absolutely.

Because maybe the deadline versus when you get the thing- Oh, sure. Are not really that far away from each other. So I am going through this list as like a sort of in good faith if everything's working properly manner. If that makes sense. If everyone has a shared deadline and some people get two weeks with it

and some people get three days, well, you kind of still have the same problem, don't you? But if a real good faith effort is made to get everyone the product at the same time, get everyone the briefing have the same problem, don't you? But if a real good faith effort is made to get everyone the product at the same time, get everyone the briefing at the same time, and then have everybody release the information at the same time so that we get these multiple perspectives, but people have time to do their work,

that can be a benefit. Another pro is that it can give reviewers the ability to plan and allocate resources to cover multiple products. During times like around CES, around Computex, Tectober, there can be a lot of launches. And if we have embargo dates communicated to us ahead of time, it allows us to plan our production. For instance, we made the call to not do a full review of the ArcB570. We knew it was going to be Arc B580,

but like slower and cheaper. I thought the livestream was a really cool idea. Yeah, the livestream was cool, but we didn't actually use the B570 in the livestream. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, we used the B580 because- I was working. Because basically what we built was a strategy

to address the two major questions that we had outstanding. How much of a, how much of, the opposite of uplift, downfall, not downfall, but anyway, how much performance loss was there compared to the B580? And we were able to do that with a little bit of light labs testing in a short circuit. So there's the B570, kind of what we, we said what we need to say about it.

The other major thing that we've wanted to look at for Arc is how's the game compatibility on Battlemage? And then that's where the stream came in, where we let viewers submit their suggestions for games that we could try side by side against an RTX 4060. Another, but cons for reviewers, brands can seriously hamper the review process, like Luke said, by delaying access to the product.

It restricts our ability sometimes to cover products in a timely manner. Like if we, okay, I don't know if it restricts our ability to cover things. There can be pressure to have your review published the moment the embargo lifts, because otherwise no one's gonna watch it or read it. And it's in a way forcing you to kind of play the game,

right, to work with companies and agree to these embargoes to get early access to the products, to support yourself, to have your livelihood, right? Like it puts you at company's mercy a little bit, but the reality of it is, is that's just how it works. You can just source products yourself. We do it for Apple, for instance, Apple has zero working relationship with us. And we I think we still manage to cover their products.

But it is definitely, it is definitely beneficial to have a product explained by the people who built it. Not just beneficial for us, but beneficial for the viewer. So let's get into the benefits for the viewer. You get more comprehensive, well-researched reviews that include multiple perspectives. Our personal perspective, we can get perspectives from outsiders, we can get perspectives from the brand, and build the most complete picture that we can.

It also helps build trust in the review process because if everything's just kind of coming out in leaks and dribbles and drabs and people are rushing things because there's no time and they're just trying to get things up as quick as possible, I think that can erode trust. But the con is consumers may perceive cooperation with embargoes as the reviewer being influenced

by the brand. I think that basically just comes down to how influenced you are by it. And in some cases, I think some people are. I think some people are very not influenced by it. There's a lot of publications that if they, you know, got a briefing on a product and they got shipped a GPU, I'd be like, yeah, and? Like what, is someone going to say that hardware unboxed is going to, like,

give better coverage to a GPU? Or Wendell from Level One Text is gonna give better coverage to a GPU because NVIDIA sent it to him? Please, if Wendell was for sale for the price of a GPU, I'd be the first one in line to buy him. You'd have to, yeah, I don't know about that. I get that pretty quick. Yeah, I'm right, that's what I'm talking about.

All right, what else we got today what do you want to do Luke we can do the John Deere thing yeah I think we can kind of get just go through that one pretty quick fire it through the US Federal Trade Commission along with the Attorney's General of Illinois and Minnesota sued tractor and agricultural manufacturer John Deere on Wednesday alleging that Deere has monopoly power over the repair market. Oh, let's go. Okay. FTC chair and extremely based person Lena Kahn stated that Deere has, in quotes, has allegedly restricted the ability of farmers and independent technicians to repair Deere equipment, including tractors

and combines. John Deere has responded saying that the suit, in quotes, ignores the company's long-standing commitment to customer self-repair and the... sure... and the consistent progress and innovation we have made over time, end quote. 404 Media's article notes that deer has become notorious for cornering the repair market on its machines by introducing software locks to prevent farmers from fixing the equipment that they buy without the authorization of John Deere. Being forced to wait for authorized repair personnel can mean significant delays in repairing machines during the critical planting and harvesting seasons, which can result in lost harvest and dying crops. In October of 2024, US Senator

Elizabeth Warren said that deer was not honoring a memorandum of understanding that would have made it possible for farmers to make some repairs on their own. The current FTC suit states that the MOU was designed to kill right to repair legislation and repair regulation against the company. I saw some dudes wearing John Deere hats down at CES that I was relatively certain were just like employees of John Deere and it took a significant amount not to just roast them about right to repair. I'm not even kidding. I don't even know this was happening. It's just, John Deere has been the only agricultural company that has consistently showed up on Wanshow for just being trash.

I'm sure their products are good, but the right to repair issues are brutal. And farmers of honestly anyone have been known for maintaining and keeping things going on their own historically forever and taking that away from them is ridiculous and stupid. And drives up the price of food. Yeah. Which is like... You should all be mad.

Not good. Yeah. Def Con had a talk about John Deere. Yeah, and it was sick. Based LineCon. Based LineCon. Please run for Prime Minister Deere. Yeah, and it was sick. Based Lena Con. Based Lena Con. Please run for Prime Minister of Canada. Yeah, come up here.

Please. It'd be great. Can, does someone know her? Okay, like how many people, how many people are watching right now? We got 23,000 people watching on YouTube. We probably got a few thousand more on Flowplain, like 25 people on Facebook.

Okay. The six degrees of separation thing. Okay, does anyone know anyone who knows anyone who knows Lena Cahn? Can you just formally request that she come to Canada and run for prime minister? I will personally be her biggest cheerleader. I don't think she's announced what she's doing next. I'm genuinely interested. Hopefully, whatever it is, she's able to have a similar impact.

I don't know. Yeah. Anyways. To be clear, I am kidding. If you weren't born in Canada, can you be Prime Minister? I have no idea. I know in America you have to be born in... Do you have to be born in... That argument constantly comes up in American politics.

I've never heard it for Canadians. Four of Canada's Prime Min ministers have been born outside Canada. Oh well, okay, some of them like the very early ones. Alexander McKenzie, John A. Macdonald. You kind of need to be. Literally every white dude was an immigrant. Here's our new prime minister. There are five. They'll grow up. All right, hey. Can't be much worse. There's a little rapid fire HexOS update. Oh, okay.

This is from John from HexOS. We have been absolutely blown away by the response from both the LTT and the home server community. The sheer number of people who have reached out to offer support, apply for jobs, offer out potential for partnerships, has been incredible. Special thanks to Mawson, Dylan, Ubergeek, Mobius, and Theo from the HexOS forums. These guys have been amazing, helping our community immensely. Just to catch you guys up, HexOS is the NAS software that is being developed under the leadership of a couple former Unraid guys who go way back to helping me with 7Gamers1CPU that basically split off and were like, we need startup funding.

And I was like, oh my God, you guys. Okay, sure. And I've talked about this on the WAN Show before. I had no idea if they were gonna succeed, really. I knew they were good guys. I knew they were like good guys. I knew they were super good guys, but this is a big project, it's a big undertaking. But what I knew was that I wanted their product to exist.

An easier DIY NAS software. It's built on TrueNAS and it's got a really pretty interface and it's designed to be TrueNAS rock solid in the foundation and pretty modern, like pretty and modern, not somewhat modern, pretty and modern in the front end anyway fast facts they've sold approximately 28,000 licenses so far so suck it haters basically the number of people that are like there's no what are they doing guys just cuz it's not for you doesn't mean it's not for anybody. Yeah, I was just gonna say, and it not being for you is totally fine.

It's totally fine. Don't use it. Go roll like Baron Trunas and like get in there in the command line. Do it. Do it. There's some people I talk to excitedly about this. There are other people that I would have never brought it up once because it's just not applicable to them at all.

That's fine. Eshtec has more than doubled the team size since the launch with at least three more hires planned in 2025 and Oh, I wish I could tell you what this is, but they have already Reinvested in the community with a six-figure sponsorship of an open source development project to be announced soon It's really cool. Cool game changer The sheer volume again, I can I ask you this is it gonna work with their thing mm-hmm cool Yeah, of course nice, but it'll be open source Nice, which is cool nice the sheer volume of support has made us rethink our development approach for 2025 more info soon once

We have the new team ramped up. I should have time to post some comprehensive updates through blog posts exciting times alright So that's it. I don't want to spend too much time on this is it. Oh, it's And I told you I've been I shifted some of my weightlifting days to movement and flexibility days. Yeah In general, I feel very good There are things that are sore and I'm not used to being sore like your art like your perineum perineum oh come on that's always sore yeah you don't know what it is don don't look it up, it's fine. Jesus. My goodness. I did, I did do.

It's my show episode, come on! I did have to do. If these people sat through two and a half hours of the show already, they're chill, they're easy. So I got a course. For the weightlifting stuff, I didn't do courses, I just learned stuff on my own. For the flexibility stuff, I'm like, this is so far out of my realm, I need somebody to help me.

So I bought a course, It was unlimited lifetime access to this one course, whatever they had a Black Friday sale. Fine. I just started it and I started watching video. I went to the gym and then started watching because it was like, okay, do this movement. Here's a video so you can see what the movement is and then log your stuff and move on to the next one. And they had me, I'm at a public gym. They had me do cat cows. Do you know what cat cows are? Did you just laugh? Do you know what they are? I snorted. Yeah, do you want to demonstrate? There's no shot I'd have to get up on the table that's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening

I'm just gonna it's not happening. I'm not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening. I'm just gonna... I'm just gonna add a picture to the... Oh no. Are you gonna show what it is? No, you guys can just show it on your laptops, of course. Sure. Uh... Cat cow. So I had to... I had to do this in a public gym. Oh yeah. I had to do this in a public gym, dude. So you go... So you start in the one on the right No we know where you're gonna end You start in the one on the right and then you go to a neutral position And then you go to the one on the left, and I just I had a certain point

I just closed my eyes, so it's like I don't want to see people looking at me while I do this I went into the corner Usually I'm like I'm there. I'm working hard. I'm lifting pretty heavy. This is the gym I normally go to I know people there at this point And then out of nowhere new year happens. I go into the corner of the gym, and I just It's like that that great song by to live crew I think it's okay. I don't think it's and I don't think it's embarrassing It was extremely very embarrassing

It was extremely embarrassing Hell yeah get it girl You got this Bron says I call it cat heaving eeeh eeeh Does it make it better or worse? VNG supernova So that's what white people twerking is

It's like slow and clunky Luke's trying to get Linus's thighs but he can't do it It's like slow and clunky. It sounds a little weird. Luke's trying to get Linus' thighs, but he can't do it. But I mean, yeah, like things feel pretty good. But my goodness, I might do those ones at home. We'll see. I think that whole routine- Don't let the birds see you.

They won't respect you anymore. They said you need a bench, but like, I I don't know I could just use a chair for everything I had to do so I can easily do it at home. Yeah Yeah couch, you know Certain kinds Enough bed frame yeah, yeah What are we supposed to be doing right now after dark? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

What are we supposed to be doing right now? After dark. After dark. You want a merch message? It's very after dark this evening. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Sure, hit me, Dan.

Hey, LLD. Last week you mentioned we're moving away from, oh, no, we did that one. I didn't archive it. What advice do you have for somebody moving who wants to put in wired networking from scratch? Currently researching the best setups for access points, cameras, door access, LAN parties, et cetera.

Consider the future and put in conduit. Yeah, but not everywhere though. Like not, okay. If the run is easy, put in one. If the run is hard, run two. You never know. You might, you might pull a Linus and get your get your mirror image

screwed up and miss terminate the same thing six times and use it all up. I did it once. Yvonne had to look at me and go, that's not what you were doing before. I had done all the other ones in the entire installation. This was back in my old house. You could have something chew through the cable.

You could have things happen, basically cable. You could have, things happen, basically is what I'm trying to say. The cable could just be defective in the first place, or it could get damaged while you're running it. So if you run two, cable is not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Running cable can get real expensive depending on where you're going.

So that's a big one for me. I would say for something like access points, now that they're all so pretty and you can do like wireless backhaul with six gigahertz and stuff, I feel like I would go wired backhaul for everything, but I feel like it's less of a big deal if you like miss a spot, but with cameras.

Really get in there with like one camera and just like a hundred meter spool and like really make sure you like the views where you're putting in your cameras. Do that homework because there's a couple that I'm not really happy with and that I wish I had done a little bit differently. What about wireless cameras? I mean then you still have to do with power right? So wireless cameras I've just found them I found them slower I found the quality can be not as good. I don't like anything wireless.

I always prefer, I always prefer wired. And see it's also easier to run, let me do that. It's also easier to run like Cat 5 than it is Power, right? This is true, this is true. So yeah, I do wired when I can, and wireless when I have to, for something like a doorbell camera. You know, I'll go, yeah sure, I'll go wireless

if I need to, that's fine. What else would you consider? Currently researching best apps for access points. I mean, just thoughtfulness is the biggest one. Door access, okay, I got a cool video coming on that soon. Yeah, spend time testing your access point locations before you actually like permanently place them. A lot of good can be had with tape to the ceiling.

Yeah, yeah. And along the wall just to make sure. Land parties. I would say for a land party, almost, I wouldn't even like overthink it. As long as you've got one, you know, cat 6A. Yeah, just toss a switch on the table. Yeah, you got one 10 gig uplink.

Yeah, you know? Like if you're like that couple that built the like LAN game. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, you know, yeah. That's sick. Do it up, right? You're probably not doing that, but that's sick.

But if you're just trying to be ready to run a LAN party once in a while, then yeah, as long as you just have like like run cat 6a to the ones that matter Unlike me do not run cat 6a everywhere If something's only ever gonna need gigabit or two and a half gig you can do two and a half gig on cat 5e over I don't think over the full distance yo Dan. Do you remember how far you can do 2.5 gig on cat 5e? I mean the spec is like 300 feet. I'm looking it up now.

Is the spec 300 feet for 2.5 gig? Come on. I think it's like for everything. Yeah, 100 feet. Yeah, wow. Your mileage may vary. Yes. Because the spec, like we've done 10 gig in the lab and

The spec fails like our testing equipment fails at 300 feet we can still get you know 10 gig, right? Yep, and like you can run 10 gig on cat 5e which it's not rated for if the distance is extremely short Just like you can use like an ancient HDMI 1.4 cable Certified cable if it's a really short one and you can run HDMI 2.1 or whatever, sometimes, sometimes. It's just not a guarantee. That's why these standards exist, for reliability and consistency.

As long as you have the eight conductors. Yes, that. Yeah, what else could we really say? I'd say, I'm moving, who wants to put a more, pick your battles. That's another big one. Like if you don't have to pull off sheetrock, just don't, just run a little thing.

I thought I cared a lot about that when we moved into my current place. And so we like, we pulled off drywall everywhere and put everything behind the drywall. And then when we did the, the one place we didn't was in the family room where we have 5.1 sir are no what even is it five point five point? One point two I forget what it is

But like a surround setup because I never intended to have one there and then my bloody family like never Wanted to go down to the theater and they always wanted just watch them like okay fine screw it Then we're gonna put surround in here And so I had to do it after the fact and I ended up using the little like cable hiders and stuff. And you know what? I never noticed them. I never think about them. So pick your battles.

Like sometimes it's better to just run a little plastic thing. They're so overpriced. Yeah. It kills me giving LeGrand that much money for a little plastic tube. I'm dead. Oh, cable hiders. Hold on. There's 30 print like a trillion smaller ones.

Yeah, and I'm sure there's like cheaper ones. But the last time I shopped for these was years ago, and it was not immediately apparent, you know, what the cheaper ones were and if they were any good. In fact, I think we use some of the cheaper ones when we did the family room. I think Jake sourced them, but these are the ones that I used years before that and I had some left overs. So I used them for some stuff as well. Wiremold cord cover. There you go. Wall hider. There's lots of different names for them, apparently. All right. What else we got Dan? Hello Linus, Jake and Dun. I'm a UPS driver and I love listening to the WAN show VOD at work.

Wondering what your worst package delivery experience has been, any lost damage or stolen packages? I've got a good one for this. Cool, I've got a couple. I, at one point in time, I was really trying to fix my posture. So I did buy an expensive thing. Spoiler alert, I returned it.

But I did buy an expensive thing. I bought a Erman Miller chair. Did you just say Erman? I didn't mean to do that, but I did. I like it. You know what? I'm going to go with that. It's Erman now. Yeah. I mean, you got Er-mez. Yeah. I think it was the Embodier or something. I don't remember what, but But this is when I totally didn't live under the old studio house. And they delivered it. I didn't get a confirmation of the delivery, and they just left it on the lawn in the front. When they deliver those chairs, they're not like, they require no assembly. Right. It's an enormous box. Right. And they just left it on the lawn the like wet lawn super chill in the middle of suburbia with no one home

They didn't get a confirmation signature. That was not a 2.5. K chair just to be clear at that time It was a lot cheaper and I returned it. I think it was about a grand It was a lot. It was a big deal, but I was like I'm gonna you know I spent a lot of time sitting in the chair. My posture's terrible. I'm gonna try to get a good chair. And it showed up. I was pissed that it was just like abandoned in the lawn.

I dragged it inside. I didn't even like it that much. I just returned it. Oh well. I got a couple of good ones. One of them is very similar. So did you ever check out the video we did on the Kluvens scorpion chair?

Oh yeah. When they delivered that, the title was not a lie. The title was, you know, obviously not that descriptive. So you could describe it as kind of click bait in that sense, because we were like, they left this in my driveway, right? Okay. But I personally am fine with that, as long as it is reflective of the reality of the

situation and they did they left it not in my driveway at home but effectively in our driveway at work whatever courier they contracted why is this happening just like why is it chairs a giant friggin crate like essentially in the parking lot at our studio. And I don't blame Cluven's for this to be clear. I think it must have been some kind of miscommunication of some sort. I don't I don't think I can attribute this one to malice. There's got to be there's got to be an error, a wire that got crossed somewhere. But one of my other favorite ones was when we did a But one of my other favorite ones was when we did a Sponsored video project with a pc builder and I think I think they asked us

not to disclose who it was at some point like not or not to not disclose but not to Um, not to address that this had happened in the video because we thought it was hilarious, but they were like Yeah, our stuff being destroyed is just not that like You know on brand for us. We're not we're not into like we're not into like gore, our stuff being destroyed is just not that like, you know, on brand for us. We're not into like, gore of our stuff being destroyed. But this boutique, beautiful gaming system got mangled. Like shattered tempered glass side panel. And what was painful about this was that it was very customized. And that really

sucked. That really sucked. That was like entirely on the shipping company. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was packaged nicely. And I think that was another thing that they had some sensitivity around was they were like, yeah, we really don't want people to think that this is reflective of our packing materials. And I actually support that position for them because it was good. Their packing materials are excellent. But even the best packing materials can succumb to a drop kick. All right, what else we got?

Okay, hi DLL. One of my hard drives on my NAS recently started reporting checksum errors and a colleague suggested running spinrite on it to recover the data. Is that snake oil or does it work? I Have not tried it, but I would say that if you're getting checksum or smart errors, you should replace your drive What if he's doing raid zero then you should stop doing raid zero and then replace your drive. Yeah

People are saying spinrite is so awesome. Okay, maybe I need to familiarize myself with this. Why would this person want to run Spinrite on it instead of just replacing the drive? Maybe this is a drive in, like, help me out chat. Is it a single drive? Originally written as an interleave tool. Okay. Oh no, spinwrights ancient. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay. That's super cool.

I mean, I can't hurt to test it. I don't know. I'm at the point in my life where, if you're running it in raid one, then I would say, yeah, I don't know, run some utility on it and maybe it's fine. You'll have the redundancy still anyway. But I'm at a point in my life where, when it comes to data, if I see a smart error,

if I see a checksum error, I throw it away. I'm sorry. Yeah, people are like, spin rate is legit, says Steve Gibson of Gibson Research, apparently. This is according to OS Dirk in the Float Plane chat. Didn't he make it?

I don't know. Oh, yes. Wait, what? Hey, don't, OS Dirk, what are you doing? What are you trying to do to me? Obama, giving Obama a medal. Yeah, exactly. Good job.

Good job, Obama. Yeah. You guys. I was like, hold Yeah, exactly. Good job. Good job, Obama. Yeah. You guys. I was like, hold on a second. All right. Float plane is amazing. Perfect. The best float plane.

I've had your screwdriver for a year or. Wait, is this true? What? Someone said, are you guys trolling me right now? Hold on, are you guys trolling me right now? Hold on. Are you guys trolling me right now? Fcar dude says you can only download Spinrite on Firefox. There's no way that's true. You guys gotta be, you guys gotta be memeing on me. There's absolutely no way. I wanna go see right now. Why did they troll? No, they're always they're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling.

Okay, I'm ignoring you guys for a little bit. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. It's it's exactly, it is exactly the kind of thing that I could see just some meme ass developer being like, Oh yeah. And doing, I. Oh yeah. We have the call out on the lab site. I know I've said it before on WAN,

so I won't go through it again, but yeah. I've had your screwdriver for a year or so now and love it. And here's a question for Linus. I'm new to having a cat How do you keep these young cats from tearing up furniture and your house? They're strats. You can try yeah that helps You can try like orange scents. I personally haven't found them that effective You can try like Fellaway Like oh man, what's the like pheromone style, like calming things. I personally never found them that effective

and they're really expensive. We've found the most effective thing is to take the spots where they like to scratch stuff and just put something else there. So there's there's spots on the carpet and there's like corners, our house is just full of those cheap little like cardboard scratcher things that you can get on Amazon, the cats love them, They rip them up, but they're cheap. You just get a new one, whatever, and it's cardboard. You just throw it in the recycling, so who cares?

The other big one is double-sided tape. Clear, double-sided clear tape. If you put that on a vertical surface that they go after, it'll grab on the fur on their paws, and they don't like it. They don't like it. It'll get them out of the habit sometimes. Sometimes there are just materials though that are just irresistible to them and you're

just going to have to get a different couch when that one is destroyed. That's just part of break that couch up. Furfino asks, is declawing unethical? As we discussed earlier on the show, ethics and morals, different concepts. I think it is highly immoral. I think it is disgusting. If you understand what you are doing

and you still go forward with it, I don't think we can ever be friends. De-clawing a cat is not like just pulling the fingernail off of a human finger, which would already be bad enough. De-clawing a cat is essentially cutting off their finger at this knuckle. Never do that. I like, I mean, I didn't know that I'm not a capper.

Declying is amputation. Yeah, that's brutal. Yeah. What drives me nuts is when people clip bird wings. Super common. Oh, interesting. Because they don't want them flying around their house, but they want to let them out of the cage and it's easier to

get them to like sit on you if you clip their wings so they can't fly away. So my aunt used to always clip them a little, so they could fly for a while, but then like they couldn't like take off. What would you, what would you say to that? I'm just, I'm curious. I don't know enough about that. It doesn't hurt them just to be clear. It's just, it's more- Guys, I'm not saying it's the same. I'm not saying it's the same. He's not saying it's the same. You're taking an animal that is, you know, you're not, it's a, you're not amputating the wing of the bird or something like that,

but you're taking an animal that is supposed to fly and has instincts to fly and you're not allowing it. That's right. So it'll try and it'll flop over and it won't understand why it can't fly. And that's like, if you understand what's going on when it is confused about why it can't fly. And that's like, if you understand what's going on when it is confused about why it can't fly, like that's depressing, I don't know.

It's not the same thing as cutting a hand off or something like that, but it's like, it's pretty rough. I'm not a fan of it. I do think there are potentially some benefits to wing clipping at the very beginning. So that they get used to like walking around on the floor and stuff and get comfortable with the ground

space so that if they do get like frightened and then fly around for too long and run out of gas before they get to a good landing spot and land on the ground, they're comfortable. That's something a lot of people don't know is birds can't fly for like that long. Yeah. They have like no energy reserves.

Especially indoors when there's no like drafts and stuff to keep them up, when it's just wing power. Yeah, they're gonna gas out for sure. Yeah. Alon asks, what about desexing? Also amputation, right? By desexing, do you mean like fixing and neutering? Spaying and neutering?

I'm assuming. Cause they're... Right now, Miss and Panda are recovering from their spay and neuter operations. I am fully spay and neuter your pets, people. Cats, dude, are literally an invasive species that is a threat to many other species, particularly birds, and we don't need more of them. We have enough of them. Spay and neuter your pets, guys. How now, DLLcow took my commuter bag on its maiden voyage today? When will you offer the titanium carabiners correction kit of the big backpack in the store so I can upgrade my commuter.

Oh, we weren't planning to. That's kind of a cool idea because a lot of people didn't redeem them. So we like have a bunch of them. I think we're using some of them. It's called liability material. So like extras, I think we're using some of our liability carabiners for a cool, like ultra ultra lightweight jacket that stuffs up into one of the pockets and then you zip it and then it has like a carabiner. So you can like slip it onto your backpack or whatever. That's we're making one of those. Yeah, that's, it's really nice. I had one for years and then it should have survived this.

It is not her fault. It like on the website, it says it should survive this, but Emma threw it in the washer and it just whoopsie tootles shredded itself. It was very old. It's super cool. So what it is is the pattern that's printed on it

is the like microscopic structure of some metal. I forget what it is, but it's like a metal that's relevant to like one of our One of our longtime collaborators or something like that I think it might be it might be whatever metal framework uses in their chassis or something like that Like it's I forget that Tatiana would know all the details. I'm sure but it's got a cool pattern But it's got a really cool pattern. It looks really cool It's not gonna be cheap because it's like like really lightweight But still really high performance material and stuff But it's cool

Did you see anything on the technical side when backstage or on set of the jimmy fowlain show that you would like to adopt Or integrate into the production of ltt videos question. What impressed you the most? The thing that impressed me the most was just generally the smoothness. Like there's monitors everywhere. The entire studio area is plumbed with the audio from the show. So everyone knows like what's going on, which is like great for just situational awareness.

Mostly, I'm not gonna lie, I didn't recognize most of the equipment that they were using. They're operating on a completely different level Yeah, and our sets are designed to be quickly modularly dynamically moved around that is a Permanent set they do one thing. Yeah, and they do it real good It's a lot easier to do one thing incredibly well. I'd say the smoothness of everything I was I was just super impressed by the team.

Hi, WAN.DLO. My first LTD video was Luke's great Geodude PC. After the Bulbasaur PC, what would you like to build next? I'm not building another one anytime soon. I'd love to see a magic carp or Gyarados theme in the Thermaltake immersion case. Okay now I'm tempted. Haha told ya Told ya this would get ya. You can't do the immersion thing cuz you don't want the liquid with the birds Yeah, but you can have it at work

No With the IT department doesn't need to deal with that with with my roommate out It could be more viable depending on where we end up situating things But I would still probably want them to be somewhat, I don't know, yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking of upgrading my computer from a Ryzen 7 2700X, but keeping my RTX 3080 since I only do 1440p, or should I go all the marbles

and get the new 50 series? 3080 is still a really decent card. Pretty solid card. Here's an answer that people don't give enough. Try it. How am I supposed to answer that question for you? Upgrade your CPU and your motherboard and oh yeah, and then see if you're happy with it. Because you're gonna get a nice little performance uplift and then if you're not happy with it, well, hey,

this gives you a little bit of time. You can start like it's not usable. You can use your system with the 3080, play some games. And then when you're in a comfortable financial position to upgrade it, go for it. The good news is that with the way things are looking based on the pricing that Nvidia announced for the 50 series, 40 series and 30 series might continue to hold their value pretty okay. So yeah, yeah, go for it. Yeah, honestly 3080s are still beasts.

They're still decent. The only reason that I'm upgrading mine is cause I can, and I really want a new one. Which is fine and fair enough. It's not rational though. Also I have a 480 hertz monitor on my desk right now, or 500, whatever the last ASUS monitor. The only thing that really has me interested

in the 50 series stuff is the AI capabilities for non-gaming things. That's very interesting. But as far as games go, I don't know. Especially if you're turning on the technologies that they want you to, then it's like, I don't know. Yeah, a turning on the technologies that they they want you to Then it's like I don't know. Yeah, 4080 is pretty friggin fast Yeah, turn on like frame gen. Yeah, and even if you don't if you have a 4080 like you're crushing everything anyways I don't know. Yeah, and you're 4080 right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Look, I'll give you compute time on mine

Are you buying one? I would like to. I think this year is the time I get a Founders. Obviously, a completely irrational purchase. I just kind of want one. It's a meme, especially with Nick, but it's a meme with the Labs team that was down at CES. How much I think the dual flow through fans are so freaking cool. And it's a two slot.

I want it because it's a two-slot It's super cool. It's a founders. I want one for the AI stuff. I've already got very many expensive founders is Amazing save loose money riddle me this Dan can have to compute. What are you gonna install in your other PCIe slots? Now that you freed them up Well, I have dual slot really I have seven on the other one. Well, I, and it can't, I can barely fit my NVMe PCI, my card or my USB card. But it does fit. Yeah.

It's like touching the fans. I want a smaller computer. Like I've already said, it's not a reasonable purchase. None of the third parties are gonna do two slots, so yeah. All right. I don't have to defend myself because it's a stupid purchase. That's fair.

I mean, if you take a lot of the wind out of the sails of your detractors, if you're just like, I am making a bad decision. I am doing so knowingly and willfully. I'm doing this for joy, not because it's smart. I just, I think, you know, you know, that thing I was talking to you about like a long time ago when I started laying out predictions for AI stuff. And I was like, companies are going to have effectively like mainframes again.

On prem. Yeah. That's like happening big time right now. again. On-prem. Yeah, that's like happening big time right now. And part of it is like, I don't want to fall behind. So like, what my job is, I like, I know I'm not gonna try to expense one in my personal computer, don't worry about it. Yeah, you aren't. But I, part of me is like, I need to start working with like local AI systems more. I've been very aware of them. Well, maybe what we should do is we should build like a local AI compute machine that

everyone can kind of share time on and we'll just like put it in the lab in the lab server room and like, is this would that be kind of a solution potentially? Yeah, we've been talking about it, especially with like the cool video, whatever it's called digits. Yeah, that was an idea. Like, do we get a digits? I think we should get at least one. Yeah. I'm looking at that. I'm not that convinced for three grand. I'm not that convinced you couldn't just build

a $3,000 tower and put a freaking for 50 90 in it. We try to see which one's more viable. Do you want to play with mine? Yeah. Well, part of it's also the RAM being able to. Yep. Sorry, what was that Dan? Do you want to play with mine as like a test run? Because that's what I built. What a thing to say if we didn't have the context for it. Context really does matter, doesn't it? Nah.

Wait, what do you mean? Well, cause I built- He asked if you want to play with his. You want to play with mine? Do you want to play with his? Do you want to play with Dan's? I built a mule. But I'm talking Blackwell. No, well, I mean, I will, if you want, I'll put the 5090 in it. But I was kind of hoping to. How many, how many, this is one question

I have Dan. How many 5090s? One. Are you sure? Yes. How many 4090s do you have Dan? One. Oh. How many 4090s did you have, Dan? What do you mean, did? Just that's all. Oh, wait, was it 3090s you had a bunch of? Don't ask that. How many 3090s did you have, Dan? Three. Why?

And two 2080TIs. Because you can get them super cheap when they're abused by mining and barely run, and then will continue to be a bruised. What does barely run mean? I don't know What does that even mean in the context of a GPU what the fan is broken like what are we even talking about? Yeah, you're right people keep asking What's digits? It's it's this

Nvidia project digits. It's this little thing right here. Yeah, it's a little like it looks kind of like a Mac Mini Golden because of course it is arm CPUs and and Grace blackwell, so it's a grace black well, sorry grace CPU grace Yeah, yeah cool Yeah, that's what it is. Basically. It's a it's a dev platform AI dev box. Yeah. Yeah But yeah, I mean Nick in the lab has shown a lot of interest in this type dev platform. Yeah, a dev box. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, Nick in the lab

has shown a lot of interest in this type of stuff. It's like clearly where things are kind of headed. And I need to not fall behind. You're welcome to time on my box. That's why I built it. Dan! Holy f*** dude. Well, okay, we shot a video recently and I called it by its actual name, so... Next merch message!

It's BrainCube! We worked on it together when we did a company event. No, it's the naming. It's what you called it. I'm a child, I'm sorry. Longtime listener, first's the naming. It's what you called it. I'm a child, I'm sorry. Longtime listener, first time merch messenger. My work involves optimization for manufacturing and logistics. Can you share any insights on how LMG and CW plans and manages these fields?

Keep being awesome. Nope. And the answer is I just don't know. I don't do much on the operations side these days. And as far as Creator Warehouse, we hired Patrick, who I used to work with at NCIX to be our third-party logistics company. So, you know, Nick, obviously, or like Dave

from the CW team would coordinate with Patrick or whatever. But I only see Patrick every once in a while to be like, how's it going, Crisp High Five? Thanks for your business, you know. Thanks for your partnership. Yeah. Sorry, guys. I don't have much to contribute there.

Linus came across the 10 years of gaming PCs vid. Yeah. I loved how it cataloged the history of each era. Do you think creating a series that contextualizes PC history through each hardware generation is worth it? I think that sounds like an enormous, super cool project, and it's exactly the kind of thing that I would love to put in the LTT tech museum or something like that. I don't want anybody to get excited about this,

but it's on a dock of potential business ideas or potential future ideas. In all likelihood, that is not going anywhere. But it was something that I thought would be really cool because it would both act as a funnel to create ideas for content, and it would be somewhere for us to put some of the stuff that we create for content

where people could actually interact with it and enjoy it. Like, we, oh, we did such a cool video this week. Have you seen the All-in-One Gaming TV? No. Okay. No, well, you are not gonna find it-one gaming TV? No. Okay. No, well, you're not gonna find it. We shot it this week. Oh, yeah, definitely not. All right, let's see if I can find an early version of sort of

taking this idea and doing something with it when we just didn't have the resources or the time to do what we did this week. I'm trying to find it, and it's so hard to search for things on YouTube these days. I will be the first to admit that the way we title our videos doesn't always help, but it is also really, really hard to search for stuff. Anyway, we did a video where we basically said, okay, hear me out. What if TVs didn't really need to be that much thinner?

And what if it would be cooler if we just packed way more features into them? We put giant speakers in them and we integrated all this stuff. So we built it. We bought, you remember those old rear projection TVs from like the mid-2000s we bought one a Sony we ripped everything out we got it in its place we put a brand new OLED panel okay yeah we put a top-of-the-line gaming PC We put a PlayStation 5 we put a Wii U and we put a switch including Exterior access to the switch and in the front the little the little hinge to access like the front video We cut all that out. We put the Wii U there. So you pull down the little thing. There's your Wii U boom disc

The whole thing is completely sealed up. So it's like the sleeper gaming TV. It's So cool. We use underrated Honestly when I saw the bigger switch the first thing I thought was I hope it feels more like the Wii U controller Did because the Wii U controller was like amazing yeah? So it's a great video Alex Justin and Sebastian actually from CW out did themselves. And it is almost looks factory good. Like the TV like the fit. Like it's so oh it's so good. It looks so unnatural and out of place. I recorded a clip I don't know if it's going to make it into the, but I was talking about how it looks,

it looks like it's, it looks like it's screen replaced. Like in real life, it looks like they rotoscoped out whatever was on and like put content in in post. Like it just, it looks unnaturally good, it's so cool. That's pretty wild. Why are we you, asks Black Raven. Because it's amazing. black Raven because it's amazing Yeah, cuz it it's like the ultimate emulation box it can do it natively plays

What is it to? Two generations plus even more with the if you've bought stuff in the in like the retro store Which I forget what it's called the Wii U shop or whatever Plus you can put like homebrew firmware on it and run a whole bunch of other systems as well. It has native support for the GameCube controller. It has, man, it's, dude, it's sick. It's actually a sick console. Also, it does have a PS5 in it as well.

So Switch, Wii U, PS5, and PC. We didn't have an Xbox because we have a PC. So what do you need an Xbox for if you have a, like, sick gaming PC? Yep. Linus, how do you feel about the S2 going back to the LCD screen?

What? Sorry. I think that's the Switch 2. Maybe? Is that true? We didn't talk about that. I don't think, is that finalized? Is that confirmed? Oh, it might be the Galaxy S2? No, what is this must be switched to is this a thing? I don't know see people are saying definitely not confirmed. I'll be disappointed. I'll be disappointed the OLED switch looks

So good so good I Hope not all right. Thank you for you restocking the pet cave So good. I hope not. All right. Thank you for restocking the pet cave. Do your pets have nicknames? My cat's nickname is overtaken and she only gets called by her actual name when she's getting scolded.

Shout out to Melody, AKA the Poot. Yeah, oh definitely. They have so many nicknames. So why don't I start with Dash? Dashie. Doodoo. I start with Dash. Dashie. Doodoo. I think every pet has the nickname of its name, but with E in it.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. My Chunky Girl. She does the thing where she like eats defensively. So she's gotten territorial about the food. So she tries to eat it all. So she's a little on the chunk so she tries to eat it all so she's a little on the she's a little on the chunkier side And then what else we've got?

What are all my cats? Okay? We got Brownie, so we also call him brown boy boo boo So they all have like the first letter of their name ooh Nick names And then we got noodle so he Noodle. Uh, so he has Noonoo, uh, and also Nudes. That's my vet. I blame my vet for that. Okay. Hey Nudes.

Anyway. Uh, and then the new ones, Panda, Pandy, um, Poopoo. My kids call them the, I don't, I don't use those. Um, and then I accidentally call them Oreo every once in a while because that was the other candidate name. And then mischief usually goes by miss or missy or mu mu. If the kids are talking to her. There, all pet nicknames confirmed.

Call my aunt stinky. You call your aunt? Sorry. Cat. Like A-U-I-A-K. Cat. Cat. Our two birds are Scoop and Wally, and then our foundling is Nixie. That's it.

No nicknames? Uh, just variants of that. Nixie's a little hard to do variants of it already sounds like a variant Scoop Scoopy, whatever. I don't know Scoop. Scoop. Who got to choose the Fallon walk-on music? I was as surprised as anyone. Did you notice? No. They played the peanuts theme song Yeah, you could it's a it's an older reference, but it checks out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wonder whose job it is to clear that. So wait, did you have no idea until you were walking out? Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't notice. I only noticed it when I watched it back and someone pointed it out to me. I don't even think I noticed it when I watched it back.

I was like, dude, I was hopped up on so much adrenaline. I had no idea what was going on. I believe it. I can be a stressed out boy sometimes. Yeah. I heard nothing when I walked out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, Linus and Luke. I'm part of a high school robotics club and we're working on getting funding for our team to purchase new machining tools. Do you have any advice on getting tech sponsorships? Dude, it's tough. Like I don't want to tell you to spam anybody, but I do want to tell you to reach out broadly. I want to tell you to-

Maybe some modern tools that can help you with that. Make it personal, you know, lead with... Okay, here's a big one. Demonstrate that there is some chance that you guys are going to do something useful. So show receipts for other really cool stuff that you or your teammates have done. I would say that is a really big one that stands out to us. Cohen Lemon, really good advice.

Start local. Like, actually walk. Knock on doors. That can be a really good idea as well. Any thoughts on the Max Band... Oh, more for money than tech sponsorships, because like, I don't know, Texas Instruments might not be in your town. Okay.

Any thoughts on the max bandwidth that will ever be needed per person? You have discussed this before, but it has only been a couple of years, and I'm wondering if there's anything lately that would drive it up. It's less that I think there's a max bandwidth that we need per person, per se.

Like I know we have talked about how there is kind of a max conceivable bandwidth per person, assuming that, you know, beyond 8K never really happens because it's irrelevant to humans outside of like VR applications where you're like stretching it way over the entire field of view. Like streaming with low latency encoding at extremely high bit rates in the future, like I don't know, conceivably, like more bandwidth. But I think you're talking about internet bandwidth. For me, it's less that I think there's a limit to how much bandwidth we could use.

I wouldn't mind downloading Black Myth Wukong in five seconds. Sure, yeah, I, bring it on. But there are cost and point of diminishing returns points that are practical obstacles to that ever really happening. Like companies that provide the bandwidth that they provide at the speed that they provide it, essentially for free, like Steam, doesn't get paid more for that game you bought if they give you faster download speeds. It's basically- They did get paid 30% for that game though.

Yes, but it's basically- So they'd be making fat stats. It's at their discretion though, how much download bandwidth they determine they wish to give you. And so I just, I haven't seen, other than game downloads, I haven't seen any other big downloads. I haven't really seen a practical use

for much beyond two and a half gig. But I know Jake is amped that one of our local carriers is moving to, I think, five or 10 gig to the whole thing. She just said in chat, I'm getting Telus five gig next week. Yeah, there you go. I'm so jealous. Yeah, there you go.

But I don't know what he's gonna do with it. Okay, I know what he's gonna do with it, but I'm not gonna talk about what he's gonna do with it. All right, what's next? We know, we know. Hey, LLD, Linus, I want to upgrade my first serious badminton gear. What do you have any recommendations or tips with buying shoes, rackets, or shuttlecocks, etc.? As with any time you buy shoes, buy shoes that fit you. That's the most important thing. As for a racket, a lot of places will let you trial them. Whether it's friends or other members in the badminton community, people are super friendly. If you see something you like, say, hey, can I play five points with it? People are often very, very friendly if you are also friendly.

As for shuttles, man are they ever getting affordable. Dude, I should have invested in badminton shuttles. Cause they're getting more affordable? No, cause they're getting more expensive. Oh. Dude, if I just- You just said affordable. No, no, unaffordable, sorry, sorry. I meant to say unaffordable.

Dude, they're wild. They're wild, dude. Try and find something you can afford. Wait, if you're a badminton center now, is that good for you? No. Oh. Our costs go up. Wait, if you're at badminton center now, is that good for you? No. Oh. Our costs go up.

But don't you charge more? Yeah, but like, there's a limit. Like a tube of Yonex AS50s is like 70 Canadian dollars retail now or something like that. Like it's wild. There's 12 shuttles in there. You miss hit one shot and you spent like, what's that? What's that worth? like eight dollars or no? No, not in not eight dollars like five bucks though like 550. That's rough. Yeah, that's crazy

Can we collect Luke's bird feathers and make mini ones? No, wait. No, it's more than that. Hold on. Their feathers are very small. Yeah You play with like spoons. It would also take forever. Ah, that was pretty close. Let's see. Would you guys please consider publishing the source model files like the Fusion or Solidworks for the prints? I can work with the models directly, but having this saves me a bit of time in some cases. That's a good question.

I am not the most experienced when it comes to things like 3D modeling, so I have to assume that the team made the decision that they made for reasons. That is a very reasonable way of asking though, and I would love to... Can we forward that to... Oh, who's on point for this? Okay. I'll discuss it with the team on Monday. Thank you.

Yes. Thanks. Hey Linus, how's the SV650 doing? Great, and how dare you ask me? Not great. I primed a bunch of stuff and I have some runs, so I need to go and send them back down. And then I am so stressed because the fact that I'm having such a hard time putting the primer on evenly really does not bode

well for the translucent for my second attempt at the translucent layer. I'm just... It's hard. And I will do my... it's it's it everything is shaped so funky. If I was painting the hood of a car or something, huh, huh, easy. But there's so many facets and so many different angles and little crevices and ugh. Will the magnetic chest strap for LCD backpack work with the commuter bag? It's an add-on, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, he has both bags here. Do you have one of the magnetic straps? No. You're checking if the attachment points are the same. Yes. They appear to be the same, but I would double check with support. There does not appear to be any reason why you wouldn't be able to put the magnetic chest strap on the commuter bag.

That's all I got? Well then that's all I got. Thank you guys very much, coming back to how we started the show today for your support for being a part of a positive part of this community and We appreciate you all We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad chat Bye I'm gonna go back to the