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and pleased to announce that the US government appears to be amenable to freedom cities,
corporate run cities with laxer laws. And you guys have heard us talk before about Linus Town.
This might be just the opportunity to get it started up. And Luke, Luke, you're going to be
the first resident, right? Of course, of course, of course.
Heck yeah. In other news, MSI has announced yet another variation of the RTX 5070 that you can't
buy, bringing their total to 19 different RTX 5070s you can't buy. So we're going to be talking a little bit about what exactly it is that inspires board
makers to continue releasing more models that rely on a supply constrained part.
Like, yeah, what else we got this week?
Pokemon Go has been sold to the Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund and
Microsoft teases copilot for gaming which is like probably the last thing I wanted to hear about from AI
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What do we want to get into first here?
Whoever prepared this Freedom Cities topic, boy, did they ever put in the work.
And that's probably a good thing because it's a bit of a prickly topic and certainly a little
polarizing.
So why don't we just go through the notes and then we can talk about Freedom Cities.
Sound pretty good?
Sound pretty good. Yeah.
Lobby groups in the United States representing
startup nations are drafting congressional legislation
that is aimed at creating what they call freedom cities.
Okay, we're going off script already.
Isn't this just company towns?
Yeah, isn't it? That's immediately what I thought. I haven't dove into this
enough. I actually got really excited when I saw all these notes, because
again, whoever did this, like great, because I haven't done the time to
research this properly, but I'm happy that somebody did. But yeah, I
immediately Company Towns, I saw comments on it that were immediately
calling out Company Towns. Those were a massive failure in America.
saw comments on it that were immediately calling out Company Towns, those were a massive failure in America.
So like...
Like, if my...
Yeah.
If these notes don't have...
What is it?
Oh my soul to the company store.
If that's not in here, then that's a major swing and a miss.
Yeah.
For those of you who are not familiar with the history, Company Towns were, well, pretty much this. They were areas with looser
regulation, pretty much nothing in terms of workers' rights, and one of the biggest
grifts or biggest scams in company towns was that they would pay you with credits
that could only be used at the company store. Some even went as
far as to only allow the person who was issued the credits to spend them so they
couldn't even be traded to someone outside of the company to use it in the
company store. It was only usable by you and then because you know the company
town controls who's allowed to have a store in it, only they were allowed to only usable by you and then because you know the company town
Controls who's allowed to have a store in it only they were allowed to have the store They jacked up the price and essentially put you in a position
Where you were completely at their mercy and couldn't save any money
Okay, sorry sorry sorry I'm coming back I'm coming back to the notes here so
They imagine that these freedom cities, okay
So that's how we're gonna distinguish when we're talking about the historical side of it
We're gonna talk about company towns and when we talk about the current version
We're gonna call them freedom cities and I use my air quotes here
extremely
Air-quoty. Okay, so these Freedom Cities should be free of
certain restrictive federal regulations that impede innovation, they will be
governed by corporations, and in some instances should pay less in tax.
According to one of the groups that is lobbying for these,
named the Freedom Cities Coalition, Freedom Cities are a once-in-a-generation
opportunity to solve the housing crisis, bring American manufacturing home, and
unleash the full potential of American entrepreneurs through the creation of special
districts called prosperity zones.
Seriously, this is like, sorry, we're going off script again.
This is like, this is like straight out of freaking Bioshock, you know, like this is,
this has literally existed many times in literature and
Exists in literature because it has existed many times in reality and we all know how it ends
Yeah, so it's like it's it's like relatable to write fiction about because it's not that fiction
Whoa?
According to wired the goal of these cities is ostensibly to create
safe havens for anti-aging clinical trials, nuclear power startups,
manufacturing hubs, and shipbuilding ports, and basically avoid scrutiny from
agencies like the Food and Drug Administration,
Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and Environmental Protection Agency.
Nuclear Regulatory Commission? Man, so they want to do unregulated drug
testing is basically like the main thing that I'm reading from this. We want to
experiment on humans and we don't want to get in trouble for it.
Yeah, and don't forget that they want to experiment on humans and we don't want to get in trouble for it Yeah, and don't forget that they want to experiment on nuclear reactors and don't want anybody looking at it nice
And don't forget that they want to do whatever they want to the environment and not have anybody look at it
Yeah, see that's just that's the thing about like the environment is that you know, it's the environment
Like it affects, you know, everyone around you.
You see that wild thing where, what's their nuts,
like blocked a river from running into a rock?
Like, if you nuclear something,
or you, you know, extinct a species or whatever,
that actually impacts everyone.
So, yeah, that's why you have it everywhere.
Cool. Anyway, Trey Goff, the chief of staff of the
Startup Nation slash Freedom City Prospera.
Man, that is such a, like, honestly, I don't think I could come up with a more dystopian
sounding name for a company town than Prospera.
I completely agree, but why does it sound so dystopian?
Is it like 1950s, like American dream, like Bioshock stuff?
Like is it Bioshock?
Are we thinking Bioshock stuff? Like, is it Bioshock? Are we thinking Bioshock?
Oh, well, Bioshock was already, like, super derivative. So it's just the most modern gamer
culture example that I could think of.
1950s fascist romanticism, said War Weasel.
I think Neet Naitoh Han in floatplane chat nailed it.
It sounds propagandistic, propagandist, whatever.
It sounds like propaganda.
And yeah, that's exactly it.
It immediately gives me the ick because if something causes prosperity,
you don't have to call it that. You know?
The New York Stock Exchange isn't called the New York Prosperity Exchange because by calling
it a stock exchange, you acknowledge that it doesn't just go up.
You know?
Whereas Prospera, it just makes it sound like everyone prospers.
I mean, I think it's, well, we could talk about it in a little more detail later, but
I pretty much promise you that the people who are being subject to these, you know,
human drug trials are not the ones that are going to be prospering from all of this. They may make some financial gains, but the irony of seeing the groups that are
the proponents of this and the groups that are sort of generally against things like
vaccinations, being the same people is sort of funny to me, I guess.
I don't know.
Good luck, everybody.
What else we got going on here?
So, anyway, Trey Goff.
Josie, Josie, hopefully I'm saying that right.
Mayday in full point chat said China has them.
They're called special economic zones and have contributed significantly to Chinese dominance in manufacturing,
which to me sounds like...
Yeah, that's just another way of saying that you can have forced labor there.
Forced labor is a really good, really good way to dominate manufacturing.
That's true. Very effective.
High amount of effectiveness. really good way to dominate manufacturing. That's true. Very effective.
High amount of effectiveness. Yeah, it's effective, but it's the kind of thing
that as someone who might end up living
in Prospera at some point, or in a prosperity city,
or freedom city, or whatever,
you shouldn't be voting for this
if you are not in the billionaire
class, like 100%. Okay, so anyway, Trey Goff, chief of staff of the startup
nation slash Freedom City Prospera, says that he and others from his company
working under a lobbying group called the Freedom Cities Coalition have been
meeting with the Trump administration about the idea recently and says that the administration has been very receptive.
Prospera hopes to create as many of these zones as the market can handle and hope to
have drafted legislation ready by the end of the year.
Now here's the thing though, Prospera is not like coming out of nowhere here.
They actually have a Freedom City already. Prospera opened on the Honduran island of Roatan,
pardon me if I said the name wrong, but whatever, it doesn't change the facts, in 2020.
They have attracted tech workers and startups with the promise of lower taxes, fewer regulations and a corporate
governing body. Startup nations or freedom cities like this outside the US have relied
on the creation of special economic zones where standard business regulations are waived in order to attract foreign investment.
Notably, the current Honduran government considers Prospera's special economic status to be illegal, despite the previous president giving them a permanent charter to operate on their own terms.
Many Honduran citizens opposed Prospera, arguing that it increased poverty and worsened biodiversity
in the area.
And in 2022, Honduran Congress repealed the law that allowed for the creation of these
special economic zones and in future to abolish existing special economic zones, classifying the law as a violation of national sovereignty.
The Honduran government is currently being sued for $11 billion by Prospera
over this reversal of their policy.
Oh, man.
The Freedom Cities coalition was created by
Neway capital LLC, which owns several trademarks
for Prospera and is in part financed by, uh,
Pronomos capital, a VC firm backed by former
PayPal CEO, Peter Thiel, um, Mark Andreessen and
Coinbase.
Yep.
Makes sense.
There are other groups that are lobbying for freedom cities in the US, including the Frontier Foundation and the Charter Cities Institute.
And Wired obtained a memo from 2025 in which the Frontier Foundation argues that domestic innovation and production has been significantly impeded for decades by outdated and unnecessarily restrictive federal regulation. Some of these groups are pushing to use federal land to build
these cities so they basically want the federal government to give them like I
mean I guess in Canada we call it crown land so yeah federal government land. Or maybe they want to buy it?
Oh, man.
This is wild.
Companies are already taking advantage of startup nations,
like MiniCircle, a biotech company that
focuses on gene therapy treatments designed
to extend human lifespans. They have an office in Prospera. And co-founder Mac Davis says their recent gene therapy treatments designed to extend human lifespans. They
have an office in Prospera and co-founder Mac Davis says their recent
gene therapy clinical trial on the protein follistatin, which he claims
increases muscle mass without side effects and has life-extending benefits
in mice, was only possible in Prospera. Davis added that he could imagine other
companies benefiting from freedom cities like SpaceX, which has been working on incorporating its own city around their Texas Starship factory
in Spaceport.
Oh!
Opinion.
This is hilarious.
It is unlikely that deregulation will benefit anyone outside of Freedom City's wealthy
backers.
Gil Durin, former political consultant and author of Substack
newsletter NerdRike claims these are going to be cities without democracy.
These are going to be cities without workers rights. These are going to be
cities where the owners of the city, the corporations, the billionaires have all
the power and everyone else has no power. That is what's so attractive about these
sovereign entities to these people is that they will actually be anti-freedom cities.
So it's time for us to
talk about this.
It's hilarious
that we can make these kinds of arguments and that anyone takes them seriously when
history has shown so clearly and so obviously
and so repeatedly that it's a terrible, terrible idea and basically works out to be feudalism
without any of the good things about feudalism like the copious amounts of vacation time? Yeah, I don't really have a lot to say. I know a long time ago, and we even got approached
for it at one point, but I think it was Sweden was doing like a startup city thing where
they had, they had an old Millet. I might get some of this wrong. I might get a decent
amount of this wrong. It's just been too long. If I remember correctly, they had an old military base
So they had decent power and decent networking and some of the old barracks and stuff like that
But like not like barracks like basically an extended tent with bunks like barracks it was like
An apartment building effectively. Yeah, and they just they they retrofitted, did a bunch of renovations and stuff and basically turned it into a town.
Um, and they were like, well, it's got
fantastic internet.
It's got fantastic power and we turned it into a
town.
So we're, we want to populate this area.
So we're going to make it like a startup town and
we'll give funding to startup companies and
we'll make the housing really cheap and stuff.
And we'll like basically see the population here by making it really good
for business by giving them tax breaks, making it easy for people to move here.
So if you want to start up, well,
your people that you're probably paying through stock or whatever can get
relatively cheap housing. You have good internet,
there's good business support, stuff like that. And as far as,
yeah, sending goes, it like worked and they're able to effectively set up a new city and you know, natural infrastructure shows up around that. And as far as my understanding goes, it like worked and they're able to effectively
set up a new city and you know, natural infrastructure shows up around that. If you have
a few, if you have a few thousand people in an area, a little restaurant will pop up there,
whatever else will start happening. And then it just grew over time. Yeah, for sure. So there are
ways to sort of do some of the benefits that you're looking for from this. But you know, not the
from this, but you know, not the complete deregulation stuff.
It's just wild to me that they're being so transparent
about what it is that they want
and that we're not kind of going, whoa, red flag, red flag, red flag.
It's like, yeah, we want to do,
we want to do human drug trials
without any regulatory scrutiny. Yeah, but
like, that's the part that you, you know, that's the part that
you gotcha later. That's the, that's the part that you, you
know, that's the the fog boiling, you know, you don't say
upfront, like, yeah, we want to do human drug trials without anyone paying any attention.
So, I am going to say something that is, I want to make very clear,
is me playing devil's advocate here because I do not believe that the complete removal of
regulations that are designed to keep everyday citizens safe
is a good idea.
I think that's an experiment that we've run enough times to know that we don't need to
run this experiment again.
But here's what I will say. You made an argument a little while back with regards to AI, where you basically said, okay,
well from the whole look at the look on his face, I think he knows where I'm going, but
he's not going to cut me off for a change.
You made an argument about AI recently, where you were like, well, well okay the horse is out of the stable you
know every other country that has no copyright is going to train their AI's
on copyrighted materials so we either just say okay screw it we don't worry
about copyrighted materials goodbye laws or we lose we lose the AI race and
Here here is what I will say
Is that not?
Fundamentally the exact same argument that these guys are making
We are losing in manufacturing
We are losing in manufacturing. We are losing in drug development. We are losing in private sector nuclear innovation.
We just need to yolo the same way that our competitors are yoloing because you know that in the Middle East they're going to yolo. You know China's going
to yolo. That appears to be their argument. And if we draw the parallel to your AI argument,
where we basically go, yeah, our laws that are in many cases, good laws meant to protect people,
meant to protect whether it's rights
holders in the case of copyright from having their works used to train AIs that will ultimately
steal their jobs, or whether it's to protect people from turning into nightmare science
experiments because of unregulated drug testing or whatever.
Are these laws going to hold back America?
I'm sure in some ways they will, but I also think deregulating nuclear might hold back America pretty dramatically as well.
As much as breaking copyright is like horrible for lots of people. I think the impact of just allowing
slave labor in the states, if that's what making manufacturing better is, or deregulating
nuclear has much more negative potential impact than the admittedly really brutal impact of
just everyone's copyright being effectively meaningless
moving forward. But yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting one. I feel like they are trying to
be blatant about what they're trying to do so that when somebody goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
and tries to turn this around after they've already been established, they can sue the crap out of the country.
That feels like the reason for them being blatant to me.
I could be wrong, but I'm not sure.
You could be right.
They have much more ground to stand on if they were very clear about their intentions
the entire time.
Also I think they're really pushing the manufacturing thing in order to appeal to
the current administration who has been talking about bringing manufacturing back to the states.
But I suspect due to how quickly they shifted off of manufacturing and started going, yeah,
but all this other like cool stuff would happen too.
That really the focus would be on unregulated testing.
So drug testing on humans, nuclear development, stuff like that. And I think there's,
I don't know. I don't know enough about those arenas. I know more about the AI stuff. So
I feel like saying anything there would be
a problem because I don't, I don't know enough about it, but I'm not like certain that we are
or we that Americans are falling behind in that regard. Like I think American pharmaceutical
companies are still running most things. There's the, um, the weight loss stuff that as far as
my understanding goes, they're not doing the best at right now. I think the Dutch or something have the
fancy one that everybody likes. I don't remember the name of it. Whatever. But
the Dutch is still pretty the West in terms of like clinical trial
regulations. That's the one. Is that Sweden? I don't know. I don't know much
about it but I know that one's like not American or something
So, okay, maybe they lost that race but like they seem to win most when it comes to pharmaceutical stuff
So I don't know that that's necessarily happening
and then nuclear like I
Don't know I don't feel like you need to deregulate it like I I don't know. I don't feel like you need to deregulate it. Like I, I, I don't know that America is necessarily leading nuclear, but like you almost never hear America talk about nuclear.
So maybe you should like care about it more and then you do fine. Probably. Um,
dude, I think the main issue is that I don't know, dude, I said, I didn't know, leave me alone. I
don't know who it is. I don't care about his F.A. Whatever. Anyways, the main issue is that I don't know dude I said I didn't know leave me alone I don't know who it is I don't care about his FB whatever anyway so the main issue is that
it's there's no real alignment right like the on the one hand it's like yeah
more cool let's bring bring back coal make it great and then on the other hand
it's like yeah but there's too much regulatory crap around nuclear it's like
what nuclear I thought you wanted I thought you wanted more clean coal like There's too much regulatory crap around nuclear. It's like what?
Nuclear I thought you wanted I thought you wanted more clean coal like what what are we doing here exactly?
It seems a little unfocused
To put it mildly
Yeah, and this thing is much it's like it's a crazy boy like I would feel
Okay to be clear. I'm not saying I would feel comfortable I'm saying I would feel more comfortable if it was if they were specific I think
And like one at a time was approved if they were like, you know, we're gonna pick this one area
Where in the desert like we have before?
Where we're gonna do maybe not not
regulated but less regulated nuclear testing or something like that or maybe
it's not less regulated but they have people from the nuclear whatever thing
like on site all the time yeah they can like yes so they can fast track stuff
fast track approvals do whatever like have a like rapid development zone basically
Where it's like an area that is made for that and you have government officials like on-site that are able to look at things
And approve things more quickly and keep keep the wheels of progress moving like that
That sounds like interesting to me, but just a blanket like yeah
We're gonna build as many of these cities as we possibly can and who knows knows? I don't know, maybe company store, maybe slave labor, maybe
drug practices, maybe nuclear stuff. I don't know. Like that, that's just, it's too, it's
too wild to me. I think there's ways to accomplish the goal here. That isn't just giving people
the blanket ability to not have laws. Um, I don't know. And like, I want to make this very clear that from a business owner standpoint,
I find the, um, land zoning and building code and regulatory hurdles that we have
in place here, um, very stifling.
Yep.
And I'm sure they are in the, I'm honestly, I doubt they're very stifling. Yep. And I'm sure they are, and I'm honestly I doubt they're as stifling, but I'm sure they're also very very annoying to deal with in the states. Yep, and so
here I'll give an example. In the in the badminton center, okay, if you guys remember any of the
tours that we've done, there's a wall down the middle between the two halves. Okay, so one half is gonna be always badminton all the time.
The other half is wired up for LAN parties
like e-sports, gaming events, that sort of thing.
So it's got all the power and networking and everything.
We have four doors in between the two sides
because under normal circumstances,
people need to be able to cross over
if their group is split across courts on two sides,
or if we have a tournament or something that's using the whole facility and someone has their bag like over here,
we don't want them to have to hike all the way around to the one door to get to the other side.
So at our expense, we put a bunch of doors in that wall so people could cross through. Again, at our expense, we put access control on all of those doors, like unify scanners
so that if you have a wristband or something, you can boop yourself in to an unauthorized
area, whether it's the gym upstairs or whether it's the other side of the courts or whatever.
So we've got these scanners everywhere. All right.
As part of our temporary use permit approval
to use this building for e-sports and LAN gaming events,
we had to have an engineer re-look
at our Fire Egress safety evacuation plan. And they basically came
to us and they said, hey all those doors down the middle they need push bars now.
And we kind of went, sorry what? They need push bars because they need people on
the one side, the badminton side, need to be able to access this this mandor
that's halfway down the side of the building on the land side because you're going to have more
people in there and I'm like brother all the additional people are going to be on the land
side and they're like yeah but it's a it's a regulatory thing from any point it has to be
regulatory thing from any point, it has to be no more than X number of meters to the nearest exit. And there's like this place right here needs to go out that way. And I'm
like, my brother in Christ, these were two separate units. I put these doors here. And
they're like, yeah, but you're going to have more people there. I'm like, my brother in Christ, the people will not be on that side.
They will be on the side that has the door. Is there anything we can do about this?
And they go, well, there is, you know, the original door for this unit at the front
of the building, but you guys put this half wall in place so now it's not a direct path
and I'm going okay so just so I understand this correctly because to get
out I would have to go this much to the side to get around this little half wall
and then walk around it I can't lock the it, I can't lock the doors between my LAN event
and badminton.
That is a major security issue because we can't have randoms going into a LAN event.
You have to have the doors locked. So the point is we are
working on it but this is the kind of
arbitrary bull crap that you deal with
when you're when when you have over
regulation. And that's 10 of 0. It wasn't
a direct path in the first place anyway.
Don't don't overthink it.
Trust me the story is as stupid as I am making it sound.
Like, OK, Luke, here's another good one.
Do you remember when we built the mezzanine in unit 101,
where the lounge and the tech-linked green screen set
are?
Yeah.
OK.
You know how there's two stairwells up to that?
That's because the building code in Surrey at that time required two stairwells up to
every mezzanine.
Oh, yeah.
That building code only existed for like a few years before everyone kind of went, oh
yeah, this is really stupid. This is like ridiculous because you are using a ton of floor space and a ton of the
upper floor space for these multiple landings for like a tiny little like
1,500 square foot mezzanine. Yes, oh my god, I know that fire egress is no joke for the love of God guys
Calm down. There's a mandor at the back
There's a mandor at the front and we've got to use some common sense. It is an empty box
There is nothing to burn. It's a badminton center
There is nothing to burn. It's a badminton center.
We are not using common sense here.
If it was a warehouse with racking to the ceiling and it was a fabric warehouse, okay?
Sure. Let's talk about it. Fabric warehouse, okay? Sure
Let's talk about it
But guys it is an empty
building It will have at maximum like 40 people in it and there's a
Emergency exit door at the one end and an emergency exit door at the other end and you literally have to step around as much
As I just showed you it's a big big... Guys... effectively a box... Calm down... an empty box...
But what if it's filled with the poison gas or something? Z-Quest says air is
flammable. That's a pretty good point. Pretty good point. Yeah, I think about that one. So anyway, the point is that this is the kind of regulatory burden where we're not using
common sense, right?
We aren't applying a common sense filter.
And I do understand that basically every regulation exists because somebody died at some point,
right?
But if we're looking at it going, okay, I think this is something that could very easily
be overcome if they just say, yeah, okay, that totally makes sense that you're only
going to have that maximum like 30 or 40 people in this area. The bulk of the people are going to be in
the other area
And you're not going to have any racking. You're not going to have any obstructions. Yeah, that's fine
So it's like we'll approve the TUP provisionally based on that that continues to be the case. That's easy
That's easy, but the issue is that
That's easy. But the issue is that people are either not empowered
or they are not savvy enough
to make these kinds of calls on their own.
And so you end up having to escalate and escalate
and jump through hoops and red tape.
And so from a business,
and I'm not even trying to do anything complicated.
All I am trying to do is put some desks in a warehouse.
Ironically, we're zoned for bingo, right?
You can be a bingo hall here.
And part of my argument to the city that actually got the ball rolling in the first
place is like, land gaming is just bingo from a logistical standpoint.
You've got like someone at the knock or the, you know, the rolly ball wheel thing, right?
They pull out the balls and then you've got all the players sitting at their desks with
their peripherals, whether it's a bingo stamper or whether it's a keyboard mouse, what difference
does it make?
From a layout standpoint, from a density standpoint,
it is the exact same thing.
The only difference is that someone who ran a bingo hall,
40 years ago or whatever, greased the palt
of someone in city hall and got an exemption.
That's the only difference
right
We should play you should just there's your solution
You just play one game of like online bingo at the start of the land everyone has to play bingo
Easy We want to do things properly we I
Easy. Um, we want to do things properly.
We I don't even know why.
I kind of alluded to this anyways.
It's like most of the reasons why these rules can be super annoying is because there will
be a small handful of people that will ruin it for everyone.
Because there's going to be people that will try to use worming around the letter of the
law to get bull chat, bull crap made. Um,
and that makes it so that things have to be worded in really annoying ways that
end up resulting in these really annoying situations for people that are trying
to follow the rules. Um, bull chat. Yeah, I don't know. I'm out of it. I'm sorry.
Um, um, but yeah, I mean,
I that's where a lot of regulation comes from. Like, uh from. Like you run into this when moderating communities, right?
Like people, you have to start putting in these like super annoying rules because people
are going to try to skirt around them and then you put another rule in place and they
try to skirt around that.
Then you put another rule in place and now you have all this trail of rules in place
because these people trying to get around everything and this trail of rules are really annoying for everyone else.
Let's just try to have a good faith conversation.
It's really annoying.
I had a conversation with a city staffer at one point.
I won't say which city because I don't want to identify them, but they basically said,
okay, what do you need from us?
And my response in typical business owner fashion was, I want for you to get out of
my way.
I don't actually want anything from you.
I just want to get things done.
I want to do things.
And so I guess the reason I'm bringing this up is because I want to make it clear that
from a business owner perspective, I understand
where businesses are coming from when they complain about burdensome regulation.
Not being able to lock the room for a LAN party against random badminton players coming
in and potentially stealing things is a major user issue.
It's not that I object, I don't care.
I could bolt my computer to the desk
if I really felt like it, I own the place.
But from a user standpoint, that is really important.
I would hate that as a land goer,
that would annoy the heck out of me.
Yeah, of course.
And common sense, there's absolutely no reason
that we need to be able,
that we need to keep the doors unlocked
because the occupancy of the one side
will always be the same as it is now.
And I'm the one who put those doors there.
If it was good enough before I put the doors there,
then it's good enough if the doors are locked. Period. But
no. But no. That's not...
One of the problems too though is like you'll go around every once in a while and you'll
find something that is like clearly unsafe because someone didn't follow regulations
and you know that they just like have somehow dodged inspections or whatever.
And it's, it's, it's frustrating because it's this, yeah, this small group of people ruins
it for everybody.
So yeah, anyways, back to what I was saying before, I can understand the idea of like
special rapid development zones, but I don't agree with the no regulation.
I think you have representatives there supporting these
companies trying to get things pushed through quickly and their job is to try to not slow them
down as much as possible, but while keeping safety minimums in place. So, I mean, that's hard to do,
especially when like we ran into a big challenge with the lighting, where it
took us three attempts to get an engineer that would sign off on our suspended lights
in the ceiling, because it's their liability.
A lot of the time, these regulations are not even, strictly speaking, regulations, but
what they are is just whether it's a firm or whether it's an individual, it's someone covering
their own butt.
Pete Slauson Who's liable.
Jared Slauson It's someone, and that, there's a good reason
that you have, like a liability chain, that you have liability because it makes people
strongly incentivized to do a good job. And to be clear, it's not that we didn't do a good job of seismically fastening the lights to the ceiling.
It's just that engineers tend to want things overbuilt for x.
You know?
And we were like, okay, we're fine to overbuild for x,
but it needs to be done in a way that doesn't have you know wire cables hanging over the courts because they will interfere with the
with the with the shuttle being hit and
so
Finally we made our way to one that would allow us to just add
I think it was like half a dozen more cables to every light fixture but have them go straight up. We're like, okay, thank you
but that's the thing is just because
you have that person on site,
doesn't mean that they're gonna sign off
on your nuclear test.
And they shouldn't necessarily.
Because if it's their liability.
To be clear.
Exactly, because if it's their liability,
then it's their butt.
And to me-
I think it's like an exposure thing.
Like if you're there working on this type of stuff
all the time, maybe that would help. And if you have maybe less total overall work to do, you're able to focus on
pushing approvals through for individual things faster, maybe. I don't know. I don't know what
that job is like. I could just be completely incorrect. But...
completely incorrect but
I'm just saying I think I like I I sincerely
doubt that the major hurdle for things like human trials is
Well, I don't know it could be it could be the major hurdle could be that it's just impossible to get anyone to
To to look at it and say that's okay I mean I had some someone posted in in the chat earlier
Let me bring this up bot said hey if there's informed consent and the people are terminal
Why shouldn't they be able to agree to a risky trial Linus? My understanding though is well, there's two things there
My understanding is for terminal patients
It's it is pretty common for them to participate
in risky trials, like that is already a thing.
As for the informed consent, that's where I have a bit of an issue.
Because I don't know if you've ever met the average person or anyone below that average
point informing them, people can very easily be taken advantage of
and be convinced to informally participate in something or they can be
coerced. People can also just be really desperate. Yeah. And if they haven't been able to find work in a year and
they can't make ends meet and you're like, Hey, I'll give you I'll give you 10 grand
if you shove this needle in your arm. And then I get to watch you for a week and maybe
you die. Who knows?
Neospris says they can absolutely do it. But the problem is that companies don't want to
report deaths in their studies,
and they have to report studies
when they're used during compassionate care trials.
Tom had said, isn't that the plot of Squid Games?
Yeah, kinda.
I think.
I haven't actually watched it.
I don't know, man.
I see this whole issue from both sides.
It is very clear to me as someone who's trying to run a business and can't just get common
sense stuff done that there are problems.
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
With our current system.
And that if we want to be competitive, like the fact that I can't even, it takes me like
a year to open a stupid badminton center.
It's just a box.
My God, it's just a box my god
It's just a box with some lights like who cares
You know even getting something like that done. It took me five years to find something with the right zoning
Are both sides open yet? Oh
Yeah
Both sides run the floor is done on both sides
You better believe it the new floors
Yeah, the only thing we're waiting on now
is your stupid 2 and 1 half pound weights for the gym
equipment.
And then we're also waiting on the temporary use
permit for LEN Esports gaming events.
So would you say at that point?
Open in March 2025?
No, it was open already it's it's been both floors
have been done since it was either late January or early February. Nice I think you
win prices right though Dan. Oh I didn't go over. Oh yeah no Dan you're you're definitely the closest you're
definitely the closest. Yeah. We haven strictly speaking, done our grand opening event yet, so that's
something.
I think maybe that's what I was aiming for, yeah.
We are absolutely taking people's money now.
Well now he's just talking to do it in this March.
In this March.
Well no, we can't do it in March anyway. I don't think it's going to happen until like
the summer, because we're coordinating with
Badmintology BC.
They're like a local group that's been running tournaments for like 15 years or something
like that.
And we're like, yeah, we could run our grand opening tournament or hear me out.
We could bring in people with a decade and a half of experience.
And why not?
Just yeah, they have to pay like exorbitant rates for courts. So we're like, okay
Well, why don't they make money on their event for a change? We just
Sponsored them the court time we co-brand it and then we get the benefit of them running a great tournament
And they get the benefit of actually like making money instead of just doing this for fun for a change
So yes, the yeah, I think it's a good win-win.
I'm all about win-wins.
Oh, would they crank the prizes because of that?
I don't know.
I think that I'd love to see them do that,
but I wouldn't want to tell them they have to do that.
Like if part of the whole thing is, you know,
that we're getting the benefit of promotion
for our facility, yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm all about however many Ws you can stack
is like my favorite kind of deal.
Stack the Ws.
Talking about stacking Ws,
how about some announcements and some merge messages?
Oh yeah, I guess we should do that.
What a guy.
No, we have one more discussion question
that I wanted to answer.
Okay, I gotta get some water then.
Good luck. Is
there, Luke, is there any corporation that you would trust to actually make a
good freedom city that you would be willing to commit to live there for a
year? This is a really good discussion question from the writer for this
topic, who I think was Jake based on that he was making little changes to it as we
were going through it before.
Don't look at chat that's cheating.
They said I won't say it but they said such a good one.
There was one in there that was sick.
I won't say it though.
I'm not going to say it.
I'll say it afterwards.
I'll save it.
I wanted to like throw a mildly obscure joke out there and say solar cities, but I'll stick away from that.
Even though, okay, yeah.
Company.
Company.
They have to be a company.
In fact, I'm even gonna make it worse.
They have to be publicly traded.
Publicly trade, Oh my God.
Yeah. They have to have enough integrity in their DNA.
I don't even know like what company I'm not a stock bro.
I don't know what companies are publicly traded.
Most of them are. If you can think of them, they're probably publicly traded.
Most of them are. If you can think of them, they're probably publicly traded. Oh man. So many of the things that I can think of are just going to sound so lame if I try to throw it out there.
I think I've got one.
I've got one. I don't think it's very good though.
Okay. Alright, you want to go first? I've got I've got one. I don't think it's very good though
Okay, all right you want to go first. I don't like mine, but I can go first
Okay I'll do two. I don't like either of them. Okay. All right framework and valve
Framework, okay valves not public. I just framework. So yeah you
Bring it in this on both parts. Well, you told me they'd all be and I
found two that weren't okay look at me being a special boy I would live in I
would I would I would consider investment disclosure I would consider
living in framework city yeah I feel like they'd have a good framework framework I Should be set up. Um, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Royal Caribbean
Not because I think that everything that they do would be like
Amazing in any way that doesn't feel fair
Like boy, they ever like international waters. Isn't that aren't they just effectively doing that?
No, they're governed by laws but it's complicated but yeah I feel like I feel
like I just feel like whatever their city would be would probably be I don't
know if they'd get a lot of work done or whatever but they would it would be
comfortable it'd be comfortable.
It'd be very comfortable.
I think I could live there for a year.
But yeah, no, chat definitely had the best one.
Costco is definitely the best answer.
I would live in Costco city.
Yeah, the second I saw Costco, I was like, ah, of course.
They already have Kirkland clothing.
Yeah, yeah.
100%.
$1.50 policies, dude.
I would just, I would unironically shop at the company store.
Always.
You know what, I'm just gonna break it right now.
The, you wanna know what, glizzies, you wanna know what the labs voted as the quarterly
activity that they wanna do this quarter?
Do you know what they voted it to be?
And it won by like, I literally don't know if anyone voted for it for any other
I I think literally every single person voted for this. I think he's unanimous
They just want to go to Costco
What?
And do what likes eat the sample food just
Just just be at Costco. I guess Costco poutine is
cheap hot dogs
Just a bucket of hot dogs
Okay, that sounds
You need one membership for every two people, okay, I didn't know that we were we were literally trying to to, because they won. I was like, now we have to plan this. So like I was talking to Nick today about
like, how do we deal with, because like accounting wants the expenses for the quarter activities on
one card. So I was like, can I buy whatever everyone wants to buy on one card at Costco?
When there's like a bunch of us, like, work are you allowed to do that with memberships I don't know you'll see a gift card can get you in
so I'd have to I'd have to buy a bunch of gift cards it may be work yeah they
just wanted to go to Costco because like it's funny it's kind of funny it's pretty funny
People could buy snacks I guess for the labs
I'm pretty sure we get the company snacks from Costco already. Yeah, we do
They want more of those lucky charm cookies
Pretty sure this breaks quarterly rules. Wow, There goes Elijah being a complete party pooper.
How does that break quarterly rules?
Also I don't know actually.
Because just buying stuff is not what the quarterly event.
Well the writers Elijah went to Safeway or whatever and bought groceries.
So how is it that different if we buy snacks?
The experience is going to Costco together.
Yeah, and getting lizies together.
Like if you're a couple, that's a thing.
That's like dangerous.
It's like going to Ikea.
Sounds like an event to me.
I'm gonna leave this to...
I'll find a way.
It doesn't...
See, this is the problem with regulations, like we were just talking about earlier.
I will find a way to make it follow the regulations that labs can go to Costco.
The problem is that it's not my regulation. It's the CRA's regulation.
That's fine. Oh, I see. So I'll read their regulations and I'll find a way.
You're going to read the entire Canadian tax code?
Yeah. Well, I'll get, I'll get chat GPT to do it or something.
Canadian tax code yeah well I'll get I'll get chat GPT to do it or something because we just if it's an event it's like okay so we just need to find a
thing that we need to do at Costco or something to do with Costco that makes
it an event that's fine we can make it an event the only thing labs requested
is that we go to Costco outside of that I can I can craft your event outage is
to find the cheapest snacks at
Costco it's like a game it's like a no like I feel in your hunt because I mean
I have a hot on his own face palm so I'll have to I'll have to come up with
something like pretty good but I think there's a way to do it you have to eat
everything you buy in the Costco parking lot it It's a competition. Interesting.
Actually eating contests are against company policy as well.
Okay. Yeah. But where I thought there was a CRA policy.
Well, no, now we have layered policies.
Yeah. Eating and drinking competitions are against company policy because they can be dangerous.
I like that.
It's extremely reasonable.
Yeah.
It's all about liability. It's all about liability
Do not play hide-and-seek in Costco. Ignore what shade Slayer said in the chat. I
Forbid it
No, I forbid it. I
Have forbade it
Luke no, no, not hide-and-seek. No, no, no, I'm trying to think of other things. We're trying to think of other things see
Can we try to like test all the TVs?
Can we do like field testing?
Don't be a nuisance.
Oh, yeah, you're going to you're going to Costco for market research. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure we can find that.
Then that's not an event.
That's what is that non-event.
You're not supposed to be working during the quarterly events. You're supposed to be having fun. Who can? There's our labs people. That's not fun
No, it's not. We'll find a way
Overnight Costco challenge? No. Correct the wi-fi? No
Secret shop? No, but see he just said it can't be worked and you guys are now picking work
stuff so it has to be not work stuff.
We'll find a way though.
It's all right.
We just see in order to find a way you have to know the rules in order to know the rules
you have to almost break them and then it's fine.
So we're doing good.
We're progressing.
Yeah, it's like tax evasion.
Sorry, tax avoidance. Yeah, it's like tax evasion. Sorry, tax avoidance.
Yeah.
Don't do crimes on company time.
Okay.
We'll find a way.
Speaking of crimes, how about some announcements?
I don't know, I'm getting worse at these segues.
The earlier one was pretty good.
That one was...
Yeah, you only get one.
Rough.
Yeah.
Okay, what are we supposed to be doing now?
Crimes?
I mean, announcements.
Oh, right.
Okay, let's do that.
What if we went to Costco to acquire stuff that makes their area cooler
So they like their workspace more
You are basically just copying my think geek order idea from like ten years ago
Well, no, why don't you just go back? Yeah, but the lounge and play games or this was Nick's idea where he was considering
We changed the event from going to Costco to going to Home Depot
But I was like, ah, but everyone voted for Costco, so we got to find a way for that to work.
But Costco could still work for that. It might not be as good.
I literally stepped down as CEO so that I wouldn't have to do this anymore.
And I found a way.
So that I wouldn't have to deal with this kind of slippery slope bullcrap anymore. So that I wouldn't have to deal with this kind of slippery slope bull crap anymore.
Because the second you guys go to Costco, someone else is like, okay, well then we should be allowed
to go to Safeway again. Because you went to Safeway that we had to make this rule in the first place. Every rule exists because someone tried to abuse it
And
Literally, it is for your protection
It is for your protection that we have these rules because if you go and you spend
$200 of company money at Costco you owe somewhere between
50 and 80
dollars depending on your tax bracket an income tax on it and I know company money at Costco, you owe somewhere between 50 and $80,
depending on your tax bracket, an income tax on it.
And I know you ain't going to pay it.
So this is very meta.
Check your phone.
I bet Taryn's calling you.
I bet Taryn thinks this is funny.
I bet he does.
But I bet Taryn also takes his job of making sure we're
doing things properly, seriously. No, I agree. To the point where I will either find a way
that we can do this legitimately or we won't. Like I'm not gonna actually just
like do it wrong, but I do find, thank you, I do find the idea of like trying to
find a way to do this legitimately to be fun and entertaining
and cool.
I'm just admitting that.
But I mean, yeah, if we can't do it, we can't do it.
It's funny.
It's because in most cases, our company policy is because we have explored and exhausted
every possible option.
We have wanted to do things like giant you know, giant gas gift cards,
as whether it's like prizes or incentives or bonuses or whatever. And what we've run up
against every time is that the CRA has seen this grift and is wise to it because the only reason
to do it this way would be so that you can use pre-personal income tax money
for the employee for them to get a benefit that would normally be post-income tax, right?
So if someone is going to Costco for a company outing and just like buys a blender and the
company event is buying a blender, the CRA is gonna look at this,
it's gonna be like, okay,
so I'm in need income tax payments
from all y'all on your blender purchases.
So we have these policies so that
you guys don't get bent over by the tax man after the fact.
It's so that we're making sure we're doing everything
on the up and up in the first place, and we don't run into trouble after the fact. It's so that we're making sure we're doing everything on the up and up in the first place
and we don't run into trouble after the fact because once you have interest on it and potential
penalties it's a lot worse.
I have rules because I care.
Why don't we do some announcements?
And I will attempt to get us to Costco because I care.
I think Luke just buys snacks for an event at the lounge.
I will leave it to you guys to figure out.
Introducing the hooded task jacket.
These have a fun story to them.
We ordered a whole bunch of this twill woven material which was supposed to be
used for our tech pants which we were developing years ago. Well they didn't
end up being the right choice for pants but they were perfect for a jacket that
is perfect for getting stuff done.
It's built for those awkward spring days when it's still too chilly for a t-shirt,
but too warm for a jacket, and you can either layer it over a sweater
or rock it solo with the inner lining feeling great on your skin if you're just wearing a t-shirt underneath.
And, of course, in classic LTTT fashion it's loaded up with three
zippered pockets to secure all your stuff, an embroidered LTT logo on the
sleeve, and custom LTT cord locks. It's available now at LMG.GG
slash task jacket. And Luke if you want to show some of the fun photos at that
link on your screen that would be great. And Dan, you're also wearing one, right? Sorry, your guys' preview window is extremely small for me.
It's very comfy.
I'm excited to do tasks in this.
Do you wanna show the website pictures?
Luke, do you wanna pull that up?
Sure, give me one second.
Yeah, this is great.
Look, W. Calderini, who says,
"'Jackets, just in time for summer
We release products when they're ready. That's what people say they want
So whatever
Not at Costco yet, unfortunately
But it's actually an epic photo
He's doing tasks.
They're doing tasks guys, okay?
This is how you get tasks done.
I understand you need to have a
black version of everything.
And the black version looks great.
Like I like it, but it feels like the like cannon color
for this jacket is the brown.
Like the brown looks so good the
black is solid but the brown looks so good
heck yeah all right in other announcements LTT X Larian Studios back plus
giveaway
Alright, do we get if you might have noticed should we get them on the table?
Yeah, I guess so some of you might have noticed on Twitter or reddit that user Cromwell
Posted Larian Studios new backpack. Actually, do you want to bring it? Do you want to bring up the post first? Sure
new backpack. Actually, do you want to bring up the post first? Sure.
We partnered with Larian Studios, makers of Baldur's Gate III, to produce about 800 of
these bags for their entire staff, featuring a custom design on the front pouch, a Larian
Studios patch on the side pocket and a
Custom interior lining let's go back to the wide of Luke and he can show off the patch
beautiful and the custom lining
There's all you have to do to get one. It's kind of multiple parts to the custom lining. So sure go
First off in the in the big like pocket of holding area there's another
it's a little hard to show but there's another like badge and then the the
printing you could switch to the Luke can Luke just an idea
huh nice questionable levels of success there's also a lot of boxes in the way now.
Maybe we can...
Okay, well, it's a black screen for me, so you might want to just go back to the live.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh!
So, that's the loot camp right now.
Very helpful.
Nice.
That's the minus camp.
Nice.
Great job, everyone.
Show it this way.
There we go. Nice. Back to the loot camp. Okay, great job everyone. Show it this way. There we go. Nice.
Back to the loot cam.
Okay, hold on.
No, no, that was good.
Professional production company, everyone.
Okay.
There we go.
Fine.
There's, so there's the inside.
So you've got another Larian badge.
It's like this gray instead of the orange.
And these logos in the background,
you might notice they're not all the same
as the standard badge one. And that's because it's their localized studios logos so
they have studios all over the world and these are the logos for the individual
studios which is super cool another cool secret of the inside of the bag is the
what I'm gonna call the combined works logo but I don't know what you would
want to actually call this but it looks so sick I don't know why it's so
simple but I just like it a lot look at that
isn't it just sick it's just LTX Larian but I think it looks great
it's beautiful and all you have to do to get one is go back in time and get a job at Larian.
This is embossed. And work on Baldur's Gate three.
Uh, I think you mean embroidered.
Embroidered, that is what I mean.
I say the wrong words often.
Yep, that's fine.
I know.
Um, or you can be Luke who gets one of the
backpacks, um, wait, who gets 11 backpacks?
Haha.
Uh, Luke?
I don't think you need 11 backpacks.
So I'll make you a deal.
You can keep one and we'll give away the other 10.
So if you guys are feeling lucky, there may be something on LTTstore.com that will take you where
you need to go to enter this giveaway. Maybe near something that has your back.
We're gonna be drawing winners next Friday so make sure to keep your eyes
out and enter before then. Pretty exciting.
And I would just like to say thank you, Larry and studios, for your patience on this project.
Because of some of our issues with backpack suppliers and backpack production, it took
a very long time to deliver these backpacks.
But I had an idea, Luke.
I pitched this to Taryn.
I was thinking that if we ever wanted them to work with us again, maybe what we could
do is we could document a start date and come up with an idea for something and then send
them a timeline.
Basically, send it to them unsolicited.
Be like, okay, here's a thing that we made.
Here was the entire timeline from concept to sending you these units.
If this is acceptable, let us know and maybe we'll work together again.
They were spectacularly patient and amazing to work with.
They were very patient, yeah.
Yes.
But basically the final backpacks that they got
are not from the same supplier
that the sample backpacks were from
because it was no longer possible
to get them from the original supplier.
But that does also mean
that they have a nice dual layer bottoms
and they have the corrected carabiners
and all that kind of stuff
Yeah, they're they're in a good state
Bots asks our custom backpacks a possibility if we order that many. I mean anything's a possibility if you order enough
800 bags was enough for us to make something happen here And I think we could get it done a lot faster if we were to do it again
We have a much larger, much more engaged partner on the backpack manufacturing side right now.
With that said, there are going to be some challenges with all of the tariff situations
that are going on in the world right now.
So who knows?
You know, the world's world right now. So who knows, you know, the world's the world's wild right now.
Like I was talking to a PC case company that was like, yeah, we're trying to get some cases
over here before some new tariffs get applied to them. And what we realized is that even
if we could get an order in, there's no way we could get it in in time because everybody thought of that and the ports are like swamped.
Absolutely mired in shipments right now.
This is from a single source, so take it for what it is,
but logistics right now, apparently very challenging.
Yeah, makes sense.
All right, what are we supposed to be talking about?
Luke, you want to pick a topic?
Now we got to do some merch messages
Yeah, okay. I'm gonna have to rely on you guys to kind of do that because I didn't remember to set up the dashboard so
cool
Yeah, well, let's see I
Think I've got one here for a mr. Luke
Hi para social friends. I recently got promoted here for Mr. Luke. Hi, Power Social Friends.
I recently got promoted to lead software engineer.
I want to build an awesome team,
but my DRs are all over the world.
Got any advice on how to build a strong team remotely?
DRs, oh, direct reports.
I don't know why, but I don't think people have shortened
that when talking to me before, but I get it, direct reports.
It can be really complicated if you cross certain time zones. I find for our group we have
all of North America and we have Europe and that works pretty well because you set most of your crossover meeting times to be
right at like around 9am because if i remember correctly that's like
four ish pm for like uk area and then it's a little bit
Dang speed typing
How fast do you type Linus have you tested yourself
What?
It's very loud law in
Sorry typing on the left
Sorry about that. Earthquake simulator. Okay. I, uh, I'm done. I was just
sending Dan a quick message. What was I, that completely dominated my, my brain functions.
Um, Oh right. Yeah. Yeah. So you meet at 9 AM and it works pretty well for, for most European areas and works pretty well for your North American areas as well.
Other than that, like, I don't know, you're going to have to get pretty used to handoffs
and check-ins.
Ideally you are hiring and working with a team of people that are pretty good at working alone,
unless your team is pretty big, because it's often beneficial to have mixtures of disciplines
across the time zones.
Like one benefit that we have is that, you know, if you need someone of a certain, if
you have a large enough team and you need someone of a certain discipline, there's like kind of always someone online, which is nice. But that also means that those people
aren't working with each other all the time. So sharing knowledge between those people
and making sure that everyone's kind of staying same page can be more difficult. But like for,
for instance, my team, we meet twice a week for an hour.
We very rarely use the whole hour.
I pick a part of the meeting where like,
once certain things have been accomplished,
I say a generic phrase like,
have a good rest of your week or whatever.
So everyone knows that like, it's cool if they leave now.
And then some teams, one of my teams,
everyone just hangs up immediately. Another one of my teams, nobody leaves and everyone just hangs
out in chats for the rest of the meeting time. Another one of my teams, everyone very formally
says goodbye. Every team is very unique, but you can like allow for some space for people to hang
out and talk so that you can have that team building stuff.
I find that is more likely with remote teams that they will do that with local teams are like, I don't care. I'm going to see you in 10 seconds anyways.
I don't know. None of that was super specific advice, but find meeting times that everyone
can actually do have multiple meetings per week, sync up often. And if you're having it where one
person is working
on something and then they have to hand off
to the other person, standardize how that procedure works.
Make a certain level of documentation required
for the handoff and make a certain level of documentation
or certain level of actually reading the documentation
required for when they pick it up as well.
Yeah, there you go.
All right.
And there's apparently announcement here for Float Plane that we're supposed to read after
the first merch message.
Oh.
I just threw it in.
I don't see it.
It's in the announcements section.
Yep.
Oh.
Some of you had a keen eye on our AMD GPU review video, which, yes, was partially shot
at the Texas Landhouse.
Luke, do you want to screen share the Texas Landhouse?
Sure.
Nope.
We're apparently supposed to go to Float Plane and click around in the video while doing
talking points.
So the Texas Landhouse went kind of viral on Reddit.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
Isn't that the same thing? I'm supposed to show that, right?
If we're clicking around the video, we're supposed to show it?
Yeah, the link's there.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I had meant show the viral Reddit post initially,
but yeah, no, you should show the video.
So we did a tour of it,
and we've got an early sneak peek up on Float Plane right now.
Got a few timestamps for Luke to show you guys
I'm ready. Whatever
Starting at 617 which is the adult?
playroom throw it over there
Do you want to hear it I
Don't know
Let's go. No. Okay at
1358
My son and Kenton open up the DDR gaming station. We talked about how Yvonne wants one
I think the the the final video that goes up on YouTube will be more of just like a tight scripted tour
Yeah, whereas we got a ton of behind-the-scenes of just you can't showing us around. It's pretty cool
So there's four DDR pads built into the floor
1921
Shows the server rack full of gaming computers
hmm, oh
You'll find it went to went to 2020. My bad. So many gaming computers. Yeah, those are all full like desktops, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but crazy. They thought about using virtualization, but I think ran into a lot of the same challenges that I have in the past. Yeah, anti cheatcheat doesn't like it at all. Yeah
3521 says actual GPU shooting. I don't know what that means. Yeah, hold on 35
shooting oh
The shooting of the GPU review video. Oh
Yeah, okay and then at
3822 I Oh yeah, okay. And then at 38 22,
I, having played DDR only like two or three times
before in my life, played DDR versus Kenton.
I did not do well.
You're not even pressing the, oh perfect, great.
Perfect, perfect, great.
Yeah, but look at how basic mine is compared to his
I'm playing on like super easy new mode. Yeah, you don't have a bar. The bar does make it like wildly easier
Apparently doesn't like the bar
Interesting not a bar guy. Hmm
Yeah
So we're gonna be doing a video showcasing the full house and Andy our camera operator
filmed this behind the scenes and mini vlog about our trip to the house. It's not coming
out till early April so if you want a sneak preview of what's to come you can check it
out at LMG.GG slash Float Plane or if you're feeling lazy you can just subscribe to our
YouTube channel as a channel member. Huge shout out to Kenton and Jade,
who graciously let us film there,
both doing the tour of their house
as well as shooting our 97D review video.
Yeah.
I got one more merch message here before we move on.
Good evening, Sebby, Laffey, and Bessie.
I have yet to lose a video game to my 14-year-old son,
but that day is coming.
Linus, what games can you confidently say you'll never lose to yours?
Oh, I don't know. He's pretty good. Yeah, like he,
He... You're gonna take those out and I'm just gonna push them.
Like he can beat me in like Ultimate Chicken Horse, like it's close.
So for like 2D platforming, it's really, really close.
Is there a game that you actively play as much as he does?
Uh...
Cause like there's gonna be games he can beat you in for sure that he plays all the time.
I mean he's old enough now that he has his own preferences, right?
Like he doesn't just play whatever dad plays.
So like I'm better than him at tape to tape,
but he picked it up really fast, especially-
He was a lot better last time.
Not naming any names,
compared to some of the other people
that we've brought into the crew.
Whoa, bar!
Yeah. Something that I've noticed with him though is that like,
I swear it's within like the last year or two at most,
there's been a huge spike in like his ability
to perform in games.
Yeah, no, he's like good.
Like if we, like I was standing over him and he like one fortnight and I was like
Do you do this regularly?
and
He was like, I don't know like once out of every some amount less than ten. I was like, oh, okay
so he's like
Oh, okay. So he's like
Yeah, and he was just like mowing down human players and like you can you can tell from the usernames I think it was I looked it up at the time
But they were like definitely human players and I'm like, okay. Well, I guess that's something look at this, right?
Little man's not super little anymore. Oh heck no.
Yeah.
Nope that nickname has become less and less appropriate over the years.
Yeah.
Um I don't know how long we're gonna we're gonna keep it up anyway but um yeah I know
he's uh he's very much just like a slightly...
Oh, like the nickname.
Oh.
Because it sort of seems like it's getting unnecessary, but...
It's kind of up to him, I assume?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that should be a decision he makes.
He's getting old enough that he can kind of make decisions for himself.
Yeah, I'm still trying to think.
Like, FPS, he's probably on my level so it
would come down to what game we're playing. If we played something that he has a ton of
hours in, he would have a huge advantage. If we played something that I have a ton of hours
in, I would have a huge advantage. In a lot of ways, knowing the map, knowing the weapons,
knowing the meta is way more important than just like raw FPS skills unless you're playing like quake arena or something right um
i'd beat him at an rts like very easily
just because he hasn't really played yeah but i think if we picked up a brand new game
uh he would probably be like on par immediately and then he'd probably beat me in a very short amount of time. I
Mean just like basic
Biology stuff like reflex level he's just gonna kill you
Yep, every day. I was about this. I'm just like every day, you know
I get older dumber and slower and weaker and every day you get well older but also
Like smarter faster and stronger so
yeah yeah yeah that's just that's just the way it is that's the way it is and i think i think my
like oh the last one or two years thing i think it's just those curves have started getting a lot
closer like two years ago if we played a game, like it's like, okay, time to carry
Little Man, which was more than fine, you know? Like no problem whatsoever, but it
was like the goal is carrying Little Man, and now it's like the goal is trying to
not lose as much as possible to Little Man's the mission has shifted
Yeah, no, he beat me for the first time
I think the first game he ever beat me at was towerfall and it was like years ago
Like he's he's pretty good and towerfall like has pretty robust rubber banding
Like it's it's inherent to the game and he got a little lucky that first time, but still I was like, damn.
Yeah, for sure.
Because I had gotten from being able to win a round anytime I wanted to legitimately losing
sometimes.
Oh, yeah, like I, I mean, I haven't, I pointed this out probably too many times, but I was
frustrated about it.
I haven't played Mario Kart in forever.
Yeah, you know, the more advantageousous sightline all these other kind of things
But there is something that is fairly undeniable in Mario Kart, which is when you consistently get first
It's like oh
Because when you're playing against bots, you'll often get like item dumped
Yes, so like if you get first in literally every single
dumped. Yes. So like if you get first in literally every single map on a circuit it's like, oh yeah, you're like, you know what you're doing, you're pretty good.
And he, I think he did that to us at least once if not every time. He did that to us a few times in one Grand Prix.
Yeah, which is like, okay. Now our advancing age did make that split screen on the switch pretty tough to deal
with.
That was tough.
I don't know how much realistic competition we were going to be.
So we were trying to play on a switch in an airplane.
So like, I mean, neither of our eyes are amazing and we're like leaning over trying to see
it properly and stuff.
But the reason why I mentioned the AIs is because he did that against 150cc AIs.
And people are going to say like, oh, it's not that hard.
The hard part that I'm pointing out is the consistency.
And also, it's a gap.
It's a change compared to one or two years ago.
And neither Luke nor I are like completely unversed in the Mario Kart arc.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's not like we were, even though it was hard to see and there was a bit of joystick drift to contend with, it's not like we weren't there.
No.
You know, causing trouble.
Like the problem I had was I literally could not see bananas.
So like I remember I was in first and in one lap I hit five.
It was just like, I guess I lose now.
Like there's just, there was no, there was no way to recover. Cause I hit five bananas in one lap I hit five. It was just like, I guess I lose now. Like there's just, there was no, there was no way to recover. Cause I hit five bananas in one lap.
I could not dodge them. Um, so that was a little bit unique, but it, it,
what I'm kind of pointing out is that our performance as much as we sucked, um,
isn't even super relevant to the observation that he was really good. Um,
so I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting.
Should we move into another topic here?
No, let's do some sponsors.
I'm sorry.
Oh, what?
We should do one more topic.
Yeah. OK.
Overruled.
Pokemon Go sold to Saudi Arabia in public investment.
Fine.
We can do something else if you want. I was gonna do MSI announces the 19th. That's our other major topic let's do it. Fine. Yeah okay yeah.
Okay MSI announced the Shadow 2X and Shadow 2X OC a dual fan design for the RTX 5070.
It appears to be the smallest 5070 from any manufacturer, at least according to PC Part
Picker, being only 231 millimeters in length.
But here's my issue with this, and I've seen this a lot of times is why does MSI need 19 I kid you
not 19 versions of the RTX 5070 when they don't appear to be able to
consistently ship any of them at MSRP what is actually going on here? I and I legitimately would like the answer some of those I legitimately
Don't know what is the point of creating more and more and more versions of?
of this GPU
When you can't fulfill orders for your earlier
GPUs that you already released.
Some of them are so similar to you.
Somebody. Okay, hold on a second. So, Ed Zelm says MSRP is too low. Yes, that is one of
the reasons. So you stop shipping your MSRP card that you released and you go, oh, I don't
know what you're talking about. We have an MSRP card. We just don't have that one right
now. We have the more expensive one. But in a lot of cases, that's not even the defense, because it's
not just always a new higher price one, it's just another one. And Made in Canada says
because money, but it's like no, you're not making more money by developing yet another
board and yet another cooler. If anything, you're just adding cost.
Spider Murphy says shareholders like big numbers of products.
That's not even true.
Shareholders like a well-understood product line
that sells well.
There is no way on this green earth
that MSI releasing another version of 5070
could possibly impact their sales version of 5070 could possibly
impact their sales of RTX 5070. Their allocation of GPUs from Nvidia is fixed
at this time. So yes they could be more competitive you know in a particular
like oh it's a smaller one or whatever. Like this particular card could be more interesting or whatever.
But at the end of the day, they will sell 100%
of the 5070 GPUs that Nvidia ships them.
So what are we doing here?
What is the point of this?
Does anybody know?
I wanna know, legitimately.
I have no idea.
Luke, do you know? I can't even guess to be honest. It seems very weird to me
But it's something that I've seen time and time again
You'll have this product that's under allocation and you'll have these brands releasing more and more versions of it
For what purpose? Yeah, Mr. Wizard 2k said market capture like is it just
your your like news stuffing kind of maybe but from to what end I'm just
getting your name you've been the news that give me the news that you have it
in stock yeah I hear that but like you know Google News feed if it if I if I
scroll to my feed and I see oh MSI released a new 5070 or something like
Yeah, they're just I guess it's making us talk about it. Is there any yeah, is there any stock of any of this stuff like?
Jake message saying that in Canada, there's some 50 series cards that are in stock at memex, but apparently in America
It's still really tough right now
cards that are in stock at MemEx, but apparently in America it's still really tough right now. Mighty Mike asks, do they get extra allocation for each product line?
Not that I'm aware of, but Bent Bob has a good theory.
More SKUs means more listings in store pages even if they're out of stock and therefore
more brand awareness. But this is, yeah, this is kinda.
That's an idea.
Yeah.
What else are we looking for?
Yeah, more search results.
Maybe it's that.
Man, GPU prices are so broken.
I don't even know.
Like, I just, I went on Amazon, and I looked for MSI Nvidia 5070.
Like what am I even looking at?
Raiden428 says, Zotac are being legends.
Their Discord is a great place to get cards.
That's pretty cool to see them engaging directly with the gaming
community like that.
The same day that MSI released this card, Nvidia claimed it has shipped twice as many
RTX 50 series GPUs compared to the RTX 40 series five weeks after launch.
However, it is worth noting that the RTX 4090 was the only RTX 40 series card for the first
five weeks after its launch and it also suffered from stock issues.
So that's something.
So they actually have like four times as many SKUs, many of which are at much lower prices
and have only shipped twice as many GPUs.
Meanwhile, AMD Vice President David McAfee said in a podcast that demand for the RX 9070
and 9070 XT has been, quote, unprecedented and that the company's number one priority
is restocking GPUs, particularly at MSRP. Do you remember the MSRP for the 9070?
Or XD? In CAD? Oh in CAD I have no idea but 549 USD and 599 USD to can It's a 790 and this is Amazon right now
like man
Come on
$1,200 cards that are supposed to be 790 like please I wish I had the power to say hey guys
Just don't buy it if it's not at or at least near
MSRP.
And this is the thing that I feel like I talk about a lot and people kind of get frustrated
at me for talking about it.
But the reason I talk about it is because there seems to be a significant number of
people that feel like it's the reviewer's fault for not going hard enough at these companies for
Pricing if you there is nothing that I can do about it buying so many of them that they're sold out constantly
All you're doing is teaching these companies that honestly they're underpriced
Like yes, that's it
Yes, a hundred blind demand and they're clearly isn't enough supply so price can go up.
Like we talked about recently where we compared the total addressable market for GPUs and
gaming, PC gaming, with the kind of viewership that tech review channels get, I reach this tiny fraction of gamers.
At the end of the day, I don't even see the point from Nvidia and AMD's perspective.
I don't even see the point in engaging with reviewers anymore.
Why?
Why Bokken?
I still think it matters.
I know your Doomer view on this, but I still think it matters, to be completely honest. I think there's? I still think it matters. I know your, your Doomer view on this, but I, I still think it matters to be completely
honest.
I think there's a-
But it matters.
We're still gonna cover it.
I think there's an opinion zeitgeist that can kind of happen where like if, if enough
enthusiasts condemn a product, um, and the price in my opinion almost never results in
anything, uh, especially for products like this that
are just constantly sold out it's it's gonna become irrelevant to people but if
people are like this thing just sucks it's buggy it doesn't work whatever it
it won't sell like that word will get out to the people that don't watch your
channel but I mean we're talking about very mature companies with very mature product lines.
Yeah.
But like I...
Okay, no.
No.
Here.
Find me a 50-90 founders in stock then, because that thing literally can light on fire.
And everyone's talking about it.
How many of them though?
I'm just saying what we say is not going to impact how many they can sell. So why do they care?
Why bother to engage with us at all? Because theoretically, right?
Yeah, but I didn't say that what you say matters all the time. I said that if you say that something
is really bad, you're not saying it's really bad.
You're saying it's very performant to put my light on fire.
And then they can decide that for themselves.
But you can say don't pre-order things and nobody's going to listen and they're going
to pre-order in crazier amounts than you've ever heard of.
And you're going to say, don't do microtransactions.
And people are going to buy microtransactions of like 80% plus of people. But if something is actually
just a piece of junk and, and undesirable because of that, people will not buy it. There
are some things that people won't listen to. They'll let their greed override certain desires.
So like if it's, if it's really expensive, but it's like cool, they're just going to
buy it anyways. If they just want it really bad, they'll preorder it. They'll do whatever. Like those things,
those aren't going to stop people. Oh, I shouldn't buy microtransactions, but
this guy just killed me in this game and I would prefer to be able to kill him. So I'm going to
buy this microtransaction to become stronger and then beat him anyways. That type of thing is very
easy to prey on with people.
But if you're like, this thing is actually just junk, then I think people won't buy it.
But if you're like, this is great, but so overpriced that at this price, it is basically
junk, I think people will still buy it. Because what they heard is is it's great. But that's the thing is like anything is anything almost anything like the humane
pin is junk at any price but almost anything is not junk when it's at the
right price especially when you've got like mature companies with pretty mature
testing processes mostly churning out products that are not complete junk and
so with that in mind I think there's very few opportunities for us to really like
stop consumers from getting scammed.
All we can really do is say, hey, here's what's a good value.
Here's what's not a good value.
And it just feels like they're not, we don't have enough reach.
I think junk is too inflammatory anyway. But like look at the market share that Intel had that they have lost right like that
Didn't just happen from random people that have never looked at any tech reviewers
Just randomly deciding to buy AMD for the first time in a decade like no that information came out
That information came from somewhere it got into people's minds and it spread.
You have people testing things, those people are informing people on Build a PC or PC part
picker or whatever, these other various sites that are recommending recommendation engines
of some sort, the Build a PC section of the forum, whatever it is.
And then that spreads out and spreads out and spreads out and then word of mouth and
word of mouth and word of mouth and now AMD CPUs are super cool.
It takes time, but you can saturate this information, you can still get it out.
There's no like, tech reviewers are not irrelevant.
It's just saying that you don't hit even a majority of the market share.
It doesn't mean that you're irrelevant. It
just means that a lot of people aren't going to be very actively listening.
Yeah I guess I just am... I don't know I guess it's just surprising to me because
I live in my bubble where anytime that I buy a tech product, I look at reviews for it.
From my point of view, there's a lot of products that have sold really well that anyone who
read a review for it shouldn't buy and yet they do.
I'm sure that someone will see me with my power tool or whatever and go,
oh my God, there was a model for 30% less that has doubled the battery life and that idiot.
And it's more compact and whatever. And I'm just kind of sitting here going,
yeah, I screw a drywall anchor into my wall every once in a while. I just don't really care.
And I'm sure they feel the exact same way.
Yeah, I play Fortnite. I just don't really care. And I'm sure they feel the exact same way. Yeah.
I play Fortnite is like, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know.
I'm not a pro gamer.
I get 60 FPS.
Who cares?
Yeah.
Like a lot of people aren't necessarily going to care, but then at the same time,
if they hear from their enthusiast friend who watched one of your videos or one of
anyone else's videos or read some article or whatever else that hey you should you should buy AMD next time or or something
else that will shift purchasing patterns over time such big purchases I think
that's the thing that kind of kills me about it I mean and I excessively
research things before I buy them and so so do you, but not everybody's like that,
and that's okay.
Like house, car, computer are probably
the three most important things in my life,
and probably a lot of you guys.
Yeah, and you see people make 30 minute decisions
or less on houses.
People buy, sight unseen.
People are crazy. I don't understand at all
I don't even like cars absolutely no sense to me like like a like high
pre yeah high pressure sales you know exists in cars and that people will like
make a snap decision like at my personal, if I'm buying something like a car, anything that requires financing
is I have my conversation with them,
I go home and sleep.
Like, there's absolutely no way on this earth
that I purchase a car without going home and sleeping.
Yeah, sweet.
But people 100% do it.
Binky Draws says, any house I can get in this economy is worth it. Yeah, so I get that. But like there was, I remember when I was looking for my apartment,
I remember I went to a new construction where they had like a demo unit of an apartment built,
but the tower wasn't up yet and you
could you could walk through it and stuff and I remember talking to one of
the salespeople that were there and I mentioned that like I was kind of
surprised because the salespeople that were there were pretty chill they
weren't really doing sales as it were they were just kind of like hanging out
and giving people snacks and
stuff and they were like oh yeah i mean this is our first showing but pretty much the entire
inventory of the building is sold and i was like what they're like yeah we have like two units left
we're building like four towers there it's all gone um i was like okay like how did that even
happen if this is your first showing and they're like,
oh, people saw some pictures online and just bought all of it.
It was just renders.
Like, okay.
It's crazy.
Well, if you're buying it as an investment
and you're not even gonna live in it,
then you don't care anyway, I guess, right?
Yeah.
Because you're just gonna stick your tenant in it.
And if the, you
know, fridge can only be opened 70% of the way before it whacks into something
or whatever, you know, the kind of issue that you would only notice it like
walking through a place and touching everything. Opening stuff up, you know,
whatever. It's not gonna be your problems, what do you care? Yeah. I guess Yeah
Conrad said the the BC housing market is looking really good lately
It's do it seems to be doing better things, but I mean, we'll see how
By looking good. We mean going down. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's looking good up here to be very clear
Yeah, I'm still rooting for it Luke even though. Oh, yeah a
Significant amount of my net worth is tied up in BC real estate. I am still
Still rooting for it. You'll be fine
I've taken a bit of a bath sir. I've taken a bit of a bath, but you know what I feel clean I feel cleansed I
Just yeah, I don't know I wonder where this oh man. Oh, do I even say this?
I really don't want to get into this topic on when
Is he muted no, I just stopped
It looked like your mouth is still moving that was weird. Oh, it's the delay. Ah, yeah, probably
Do it no balls, you know Oh, it's the delay. Ah, yeah, probably. Chat says do it.
Say it, no balls.
You know, we're in an extremely active, extremely erratic trade war right now.
So we'll see what happens to housing in all of Canada, to be honest.
Who knows?
Yeah.
We've never been in this situation.
Yeah.
Ever.
But hey, I mean, it was for a really good reason. Like I know there's a lot of
fentanyl going over the border from Canada and it's really, it was really wise. It was
wise and measured to put these. Stable. Yeah. It was stable. You could even say a genius
move to put these measures in place.
Dead anti-social and full-plane chat said, say your bull chat, which is a fantastic deep cut.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Whatever.
Yeah. Good luck, everybody. It all makes a ton of sense. Everything makes sense right now and good reason is driving actions.
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Yeah, I think all right should we talk about Pokemon go being sold to the Saudis
Yeah, I
Know you're a big Pokemon go fans So how does this make you feel before we even get actually no let's do that
I'll do the read first and then you can talk about how it makes you feel.
Sure.
Niantic, developer of Pokemon Go and Pokemon Go clones, Monster Hunter Now and Pikmin Bloom,
seriously, this company has made one game over and over for like 15 years, has been
acquired by Scopely, a subsidiary of Savvy Games Group, a multinational game investment
fund group backed by Saudi Arabia's public investment fund. Niantic's AI
mapping business, Niantic Spatial, is supposedly being spun off as a separate
entity but is also receiving a 50 million dollar investment from Scopely as
well, which brings questions about what player data, including geolocation and AR scans of locations where they play the game,
will be shared and used for by these parent companies.
A blog post on Pokemon Go's website states that the entire Pokemon Go team is staying together through this partnership,
and that this partnership will help improve the game and ensure longer-term support." Never heard that before. We've never
heard that everyone's staying together until there's layoffs in like six months
to a year. We've never heard that. That didn't happen at
Microsoft recently. No, definitely not. Definitely not. Definitely not. Definitely
not. This is, it's interesting. I mean Tencent's been buying at least part of like every game
for quite a while now.
I guess the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund just went a little harder and just bought
a whole game.
Because Tencent seems to usually buy parts.
Different strategy. This is rough. This is rough. I expect even
worse microtransactions. Funny enough, see, I have some unpopular takes on Pokemon Go.
Being a Pokemon Go enjoyer, I actually think it is a bad game. And the only reason why
I like it is because it gets me out walking I think things like remote raid passes are bad
Just in general
I
Don't mind using other people for it because there's a method where you can use an app to let people add
because there's a method where you can use an app to let people add you to their friends list and then you can
Invite them and then they can remote into the raid that you are standing at
So I'll go walk around and then call people in to like
Fight the raid with me so I can do more difficult things
But I don't think you as an individual should use remote raid passes But that is not a popular pain unless you have like a disability sure whatever. Yeah, there's there's
there are
Situations where it makes sense sure but for most people want to Rand says read the Pokemon go privacy policy
This isn't an issue for players at all. Yeah, it's already really bad
My is the thing about?
Privacy policies though is that they are only as bad as they are until
they're worse.
Nothing actually prevents a company from just updating their privacy policy and then you're
going to get a notification that the privacy policy was updated.
Most people aren't going to read it.
Or coming back to my point about people not paying attention to reviews of GPUs, people won't pay attention to community backlash around a privacy policy update in
general and it will just stay what it is because people are going to desperately need their
new Pokemon and then it is what it is.
You know, okay, I'm going to counter a little bit.
You said the like, okay, remote raid raid passes are it's good for people with disabilities and
Some full plane chat said okay, but or jacob and full plane set said or you just don't live in a city
I think my counter for this is what I said right before that which is it's not a good game
Like if these things are true, I are
Pokemon go just sucks like it's a it's a bad game. The only benefit is that it gets you out walking.
So if you can't, or if you live in an area where there's nothing to do by doing that, then honestly,
I just think it's a bad game, and I wouldn't recommend playing it at all.
I wouldn't recommend paying egregious amounts of money to be able to play it in a less effective manner. No,
I just would recommend not playing it. It's not a good game. Don't go spend your time doing something
more fun and engaging. I don't know. I don't. So that's, I think that's my defense for it is it
just sucks. So you shouldn't go out of your way to spend more money playing a game that isn't very good from your couch instead of going out and walking, which makes the game good. Um, anyways,
so I got that out of the way. I suspect the biggest win that they can have with the community
and the biggest financial win that they can have is uncapping the amount of remote raid passes that
you can use. Cause I think right now it's capped at like three per day or something
Yeah, and the crazy thing to me is they caught I don't know how much they cost
But I think they cost like more than a dollar each and people rejoice when for special events
They lift they I don't think they lift the cap that they raise the cap to some higher amount
I'm gonna say like 20 or something and people get stoke wild
so like I think they are going to
Do something that community wants and
Lift the cap on remote raids and they're gonna make tons of money. I
Don't even think and I think it's good. It's the point. It's got to be it's got to be the data Because that from my understanding was the entire point of ingress and Pokemon go and all this stuff
Crazy, there's benefits to mapping
Routinely do AR scans or different areas like what is possibly the point of that unless you're trying to harvest some form of data
It's interesting to me that it's worth that much
harvest some form of data. It's interesting to me that it's worth that much. Dude, the valuations of things in general are sort of baffling to me.
Yeah. I don't think we actually said how much the deal was for. I thought it was
300 million though.
I'm not sure. I don't think it's...
No, sorry, excuse me, three and a half billion Sorry, I was off by by a decimal place
Yeah, I mean there are still a half billion dollars there are still a crazy amount of Pokemon go players and I
guarantee you that that game makes
monster money
Just crazy amounts of money
Because like it's it's I think generally easier for people to justify okay the
people that will go out and walk I think it's easier for them to justify because
they're like oh okay this is I don't know I'm gonna buy an event pass for
this cool event day thing it cost me like six dollars I'm gonna walk and do
and whatever you compound that by enough people that's a ton of money and then
you have the the people that will just sit and remote raid by enough people that's a ton of money and then you have the
The people that will just sit in remote raid like crazy and that's
Wild amounts of money
Interestingly they kept ingress
So it's not like they're not still maintaining game code, huh?
So it's not like they're just like yeah, we don't want to like make games anymore or something. So they only sold Pokemon Go, Monster Hunter Now and Pikmin Bloom.
That's weird. I wonder how people even play Ingress still. I like, um...
Whoa, WhiskeyNerd88 says, I met my ex playing Pokemon Go.
Last time I checked, I spent about $6,000 in the game,
but have not spent any money on the game in years.
Wow.
And due to the nature of the game,
if he hasn't played in years,
his Pokemon probably aren't even that good anymore.
Because there's constant power creep, right?
Friends who still play Ingress?
I know people play it.
I just, I wonder how many.
Because you never really hear about it.
As far as my understanding goes, the Ingress community is like, probably not shrinking
much anymore.
Because they, you get to that point where it's like, these people are just going to play forever. the Ingress community is like probably not shrinking much anymore because they
you get to that point where it's like these people are just gonna play forever
but I wonder how many are left because like I played ping Ingress back in like
2013 or something and for the same reason then that I like Pokemon Go now
right like I liked the idea I would walk around a city using Ingress as my guide.
Um, because like it would bring you to interesting, like the statues or whatever else.
Like you can use it to kind of bring you around the city.
Um, I don't know, man.
It's, uh, it's interesting.
I don't think they're going to make the game better for players like me. If they make any changes, I they're gonna make the game better for players like me if they make any changes
I think they will make the game better for
Players that are not like me, but we'll see our discussion questions here are pretty interesting
I mean is savvy games group essentially just publicly funded private equity
Yes, I mean you got to remember that in
in the Middle East like
I mean, you got to remember that in the Middle East, public funds are kind of like private funds.
Is it not?
I genuinely don't know anything about it.
It's not like the Norwegian investment thing?
I'm not convinced that the citizens get any benefit from this in the same way that the
Norwegian one does. What I do wonder though is if North America is
kind of behind the eight ball on the whole public private equity thing.
There's been some talks about that from America I think recently. Not Canada I don't think,
but America. I think getting some public investment funds that
raise money off of natural resources makes a lot of sense.
There are things that are kind of similar. I know some of the teachers unions in Canada, for
instance, invest their... Yeah, these pension funds are pretty big and that's effectively public.
It's all public servants who work for these unions, right?
So it's kind of public funding.
So like sort of, except that it's private, like it's clear that this is not just
like a black and white thing.
Is it private funding or is it public funding?
There's kind of a spectrum here, but.
I know you literally just said it, but I'm going to clarify because it is so
insane and I'm not necessarily sure you meant this directly
Do you know about the on the Ontario teachers fund having 250 billion dollars in net assets? I
Didn't know it was that much but they like own an airport and stuff not even in Canada
Like they're they are wild
Getting teachers, okay
Ontario teachers pension plan
Airport apparently it's that new Tano says it's the biggest pension fund in the world. It's crazy
I don't know what they've just been popping off
Wow all right popping off. Wow. All right. Okay. It's not an airport. It's many airports. The Ontario
teachers investment fund owns a substantial portfolio of infrastructure assets, including
stakes in okay, fair enough. Birmingham airport, Bristol airport, Copenhagen airport and London
City airport, as well as international water and power utilities.
Like they are not chilling. They are going hard.
All right. Wild.
All good on them. And yeah, someone posted, this seems like the Saudis diversifying from
oil and that is absolutely what they're doing. They're taking that oil money and they're putting it into stuff that will
continue to grow as the world continues to electrify. 100%. Now our next question
here is how do you feel about the sale of more and more art slash games slash
culture to investment companies? Deadmau5 just sold his catalog and label for
55 million. And it's like on the one hand, like get the bag. But on the other hand, Adam writes,
I prefer companies investing in artists, not just like owning the art. And that's a really good
point. And what I'll say is that the, you know that from the time that we got an offer for our company and our IP, the
only real way that that happens is with these large private equity or union-funded funds.
They're the only ones that can afford what this stuff is worth, so that's the only
real option to sell. I actually had another topic in here that was sort of to... Oh man.
Shoot, I forget. Well, I was going to get into it somehow, that it's really hard for Canadian companies to not get acquired by US companies.
And the same thing looks like it's starting to happen to Western companies.
Oh yeah, I was going to talk about it in this topic.
The same thing seems to be happening to Western companies getting acquired by Saudi wealth funds.
And this is often not hostile.
Yeah.
Like there's...
Like it's agreed upon.
I don't know, I haven't done enough research.
The whole world's been on fire.
It's been hard to properly stay on top of everything.
So I don't know if this is true or not.
But as far as my understanding goes,
there's substantial evidence that our new prime minister up here in Canada, um, when I think it was when Trump took office,
took significant steps to move an investment firm down to the States for tax breaks. Um,
and now he's running our country, uh, whether that happened or not, I don't fully know. Well,
I know that it happened, but I don't know if he was actually involved because there's some people
saying that he had left before, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know. But like, this is a thing. I mean, the Canadian brain drain is something
that has been known about for a long time. You grow up here, you go to school here, you
get a good education, you go get a job in the States because you make way more money.
Yep. And it seems like-
Even a strategy where people will do that and then move back.
Because you make more money and the cost of living is lower, so you can save a bunch of
money and then you save a bunch of money and move back to Canada.
For the healthcare and for the retirement.
But it's not just people, it's like entire companies and entire art catalogs now.
And it sort of looks like it's starting to happen to the US now as well, where things
are just getting acquired and stripped out.
And you talked about Tencent basically owning a piece of everything, like every gaming IP,
every gaming company.
How do you compete with that?
It's economic warfare at a certain point.
I think it actually is, yeah.
Good luck everybody.
What I will say is there was no way that we were going to get the same offer for LMG from a Canadian
investor or from a Canadian company that we got from a US based company. And these days,
I kind of doubt that we would get the same offer from a US company that we could get
from a Saudi backed company or a Chinese backed
company. There's a question. There's a question. What if a Saudi backed company
offered a hundred and fifty? So far I have not even traveled there and it's
not that it hasn't come up. What if what if you wouldn't have to travel there?
It's no problem. Well no it's not about the travel. come up. What if you wouldn't have to travel there? It's no problem.
Well, no, it's not about the travel.
I'm saying so far we have had zero engagement.
Got it.
I mean, look, I'm not going to pretend that I'm some kind of paragon of perfection.
I think every man has a price and I think that if you were to say anything other than that
every man has a price that's I just don't think it's honest with that said
with that said there are there are still good people Cory is the name says and
this is in floatplane chat my dad is selling his architecture firm to like a
dozen plus of his employees and is taking a huge loss compared to offers. He received from bigger fish
I think that's super cool. I think I've told the story already on the show about
my uncle's vet friend who owned a veterinary practice and
Could have sold to the like predator
That that's been buying up all the vet practices and then hiking the prices in the lower mainland and instead sold to my friend who is running it now,
Dr. Duff at Fraser Heights Animal Hospital.
She is an amazing human being
and deserved to get a good deal.
She paid a fair price.
It wasn't that she was asking for handouts,
but it was just that these equity backed companies can afford to pay three times
Two or three times a fair price and then they're just playing along. It's
Yeah, so they're not as worried about EBITDA. They're worried about owning every single option you can go to
Yes, exactly
Gremlin injector says your channel isn't the kind of business a pension fund would want to deal with managing. Your mistake is calling it a channel. The channel is less
than half of our revenue now. We're going to have an updated version of how does LMG
make money pretty quick here, but I think you'll be surprised to discover that we are running a company
over here.
It's very interesting to see people's sort of perspective on what it is that LMG is exactly.
We are absolutely the kind of thing that investors buy.
We have just made the decision not to sell. The only
difference with that one offer was that it was to a group that we
were willing to hear out because they seemed not that crappy and so it's the
first time we ever actually got a number for the company because everyone else
we've just kind of not even gotten that far with yeah Rod Rosenberg says LMG is a tool company we
aren't not a tool company I'll tell you that much for sure
yeah offers are an interesting experience to go through even with zero
intent to entertain because it's interesting to see like what people put value on
um like what like what that's an interesting conversation do you want to talk about that like
what what were they largely placing value on when they were buying? A lot of it was Creator Warehouse. Yeah.
A lot of it was the institutional knowledge
on the content creation side as well.
They wanted our people in leadership positions
at some of their other IPs.
They wanted our IPs to continue ticking and they wanted our
our experience and our expertise diversifying our revenue from
traditional creator revenue streams like AdSense and Patreon to building our own
site like Floatplane although that sorry was a smaller part of it and especially expanding
into merch.
Like that but that that experience is is interesting even if you're not willing to entertain the
offer.
Oh definitely definitely seeing what other people value about your company a hundred
percent and when it's a purchasing offer it's one of the few times that it's like
probably going to be legit. Yeah and not just based on it's not a job offer for me at that
point like I think I had a two-year clause that I had to stay with the company but that was it two
years yeah which would be expired by now if we had taken it. Top Gear 1224 says, did you see the Mr. Beast
business breakdown for the investment request? Yeah, I did see that. I am very surprised that
Jimmy is still in hyper growth lose money mode. Not because I don't think he's doing bigger and
bigger things every time. And that's a big part of why you need to keep taking money and you keep losing money is because you kind of try to use the capital you have to do something even bigger, and you lose money is just sort of part of that process.
But because I would think that he would at some point just go, okay, I'm worth a billion dollars at this point.
Maybe this is big enough, but he doesn't seem to have a limit to what he wants to build over there. And it looks like Beast Games was an absolutely enormous success for his company.
So I think he's shopping another two seasons right now at the rumored price of $150 million a season.
So good for him. Which is really fantastic for new media, to be completely honest.
100%.
Completely regardless of what you think of him or his company or anything like that,
that is a very big step for new media because there's a certain layer of like,
the big heads never took us seriously even though we can take as many of their views as we want
We can take as much of their money money as they want etc
but we were never taken seriously as actual professional people who can perform and
Clearly it worked extremely well
And clearly it worked extremely well. So now it sounds like the rumblings that I'm seeing
is that there's a shift there now.
And they're looking actually specifically
for content creators, I believe mostly specifically YouTubers,
but I'm sure content creators in general.
I think, I bet you would be YouTubers and streamers
just because short format probably
isn't going to transfer.
YouTube is the closest thing to what they already do. And it's the easiest to understand.
Yeah.
I mean, in a lot of ways we are, we are set up not that differently from the other, the
other creator companies.
You look at stuff like Dude Perfect,
you look at stuff like MrBeast.
We're just operating at a much smaller scale.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
For sure.
Top Gear says, yeah, his YouTube videos are still a loss,
but Chocolate is making money.
The chocolate made less than I anticipated, like his net profit on it.
It was on the lower side of what I would have expected.
But my approach to business building has always been almost like anti-growth like it's been very
bootstrap make sure it's sustainable at every stage and that's not the way to
achieve hyper growth whereas he is just like he's like all in every time I think
he's raised what was it like 450 million dollars or something Unbelievable like that we've raised zero dollars
I'll give you a dollar oh
I'll raise you a dollar
Is it really an investment though if previously your doll I gave you the dollar in the first place yeah
I'll give you I'll give you back a dollar
Thank you all the CRA
Don't tell the CRA. Crap.
What was I going to say?
Yeah, it's something to say.
Oh, do you think a lot of that profit, because I mean, we've talked about this before, you
think a lot of that less profit than you'd expect is just because he's like selling through
places like Walmart, and everybody's going to take their cut.
So the distributor is taking their cut, Walmart is taking their cut, et cetera.
Yeah.
We bring everything in-house, which improves the sustainability of it from a business standpoint
because we're vertically integrated.
We control our costs directly.
But massively reduces your growth.
He like hires a team and pays a lot of people and middle persons and pays for a lot of infrastructure
that achieves scale but doesn't achieve necessarily the same profitability for his company.
Like man, being in Walmart is insane.
But think about this.
Hold on.
Hold on.
How many Walmart stores in America? Walmart is insane. But think about this. Hold on, hold on.
How many Walmart stores in America?
I was talking to someone about this recently because it was a really interesting perspective
change for me.
When I was talking to someone about like, this is back when I was at NCIX.
I think I was talking to not Taryn, but my other boss about like, you know, who cares
if this brand is in, you know, Best Buy or they have their keyboard in Walmart.
Like the stuff's not selling.
I go in there and like the shelf like display socks and this and that.
And he's like, okay, Linus, look, Walmart has at this time, according to the AI overview, so take it for what it is, Walmart has
4,615 stores in the United States, including their
super centers, discount stores, and
neighborhood markets.
If you have your product in Walmart, okay, so
let's even take something as cheap as a chocolate
bar.
What's a feastable bar?
Like two bucks?
Something like that?
No idea. Sure. Okay. as a chocolate bar what's a feastable bar like two bucks something like that no idea sure okay so if every one of
those stores sold just one feastable bar
per day which I think is pretty
reasonable so in chat responded a little
bit too quickly with a dollar fifty a
dollar fifty okay all right, I have no idea.
Times point, you know what? I'm going with $2. I'm trusting my instincts, okay? So that's
$92.30, okay? Times $3.65. I think it's pretty fair to say that any Walmart would probably
manage to sell one Feastable bar a day, and if it didn't, it wouldn't be on the shelf.
Times 365 means that if every Walmart location sold just one of these chocolate bars a day,
it's a $3.3 million business.
It is insane the scale at which companies like this operate because as soon as you go, okay
Yeah, they could probably sell ten chocolate bars a day
Okay now it's a 33 million dollar business
Probably they could sell more than ten
So just being in Walmart just being in Walmart at all to be specific locations where that ten is a joke
There's gonna be other locations where that 10 is a joke.
There's going to be other locations where 10 might be a struggle, but like, yeah.
Yeah.
You are almost immediately, just by merit of having your product in Walmart stores,
going to be a bigger company than LMG and Creator Warehouse and Float Plane.
Like assuming your product costs, let's say, you know, 10 bucks or 20 bucks.
Obviously, Walmart is taking a significant amount of that margin. But in terms of just the the sheer amount of revenue like it is
dude
Absolutely wild
Yeah
So, good luck, yeah, good luck, Jimmy. I forget what topic we're even on right now.
Who knows?
Who knows?
That's not the point.
iRobot, iRobot, more like die robot.
Roomba Maker, iRobot claims that it is unclear if the company will be able to survive for
the next 12 months.
Amazon was set to take over the company for $1.7 billion but pulled out after scrutiny
from both US and European regulators.
After Amazon abandoned the acquisition, the company cut more than 50% of its workforce, reduced inventory, and reorganized, but still posted a net loss of $146 million in 2024, and ended the year with $134 million in cash.
iRobot just launched eight new vacuums. This is exactly why I didn't want to buy that robot sweeper thing for the badminton center.
Remember the one that had a subscription and didn't work at all without the app and the subscription?
Because I don't care how well your company is doing today.
If you can be a market leader and then
All of a sudden be in a position where it's unclear if you'll be able to survive the next 12 months
It can happen to anyone
Our discussion question here is
Competitors seem to have overtaken Roomba in terms of price and innovation.
How can big established players stay nimble to keep competitors from overtaking them?
I mean, that's the innovator's dilemma, right?
Is you don't want to cannibalize your own product line, so you don't, and then someone
comes in and disrupts you.
It's one of the things you've got to listen to Steve Jobs on, man.
Just do it. There's, yeah, there's almost, there's almost no companies that survive a hundred years, man.
Like that's one of the reasons that I look at cryogenic freezing, like preservation,
and I'm like, dude, you understand that you are basically just like freezing your body
in a freezer of a company that literally won't exist by the time any theoretical technology
could exist to resurrect you.
Anyway, that's a whole other thing.
I guess that's about it, guys.
I don't know.
I only daily to Roomba for a very short period of time,
because it was at my old house that had a sunken living room,
so it just wasn't that useful for me, because they couldn't do stairs yet.
Does a Roomba really work without the app,
or are we just going to have millions and millions and millions of
e-waste vacuum robots out there that just don't do anything after this?
I have no idea, man.
Anyone got a Roomba?
Huh?
Anyone got a Roomba?
I don't.
I'm just confused,
because to me it just doesn't seem like
the market should be that big for these things.
Harris83 says,
you can manually press the clean button
and it will zombie around for a while
and then return to base
It does but it loses all its smart functionality. Well, at least it's still
Haven says you can control an iRobot locally, especially with home assistant to okay. That's pretty cool
Yeah, the old ones definitely work without an app
Yeah. The old ones definitely work without an app.
Okay, I connect locally to my Home Assistant.
Okay, quite a few people talking about Home Assistant in here.
But can it, yeah, can, what about all the mapping and stuff?
Like does any of that work?
Yeah, like if you're telling it to engage with the internet, it's not engaging with
the internet.
Yeah, getting new parts is going to be an issue weasel.
With that said, I think the ecosystem for these iRobots out there is going to be big
enough that it'll be in someone's best interest to produce replacement parts for them no
offline maps okay hmm interesting yeah Jake heat Micro Center says all the parts
I buy from our room business from Aliexpress already anyway well maybe
you're part of the problem you ever think of that how will I robot survive I
mean that is that is why the American companies are dying.
Is this just all these?
It's a bunch of Chinese companies just completely dominating robot vacuums.
As far as my understanding goes.
Oh, yeah, a hundred percent.
I'm just I'm just confused.
Like we get a ton of like sponsor offers for robot vacuums and stuff
And I'm just confused are that many people buying them. I
Don't see that many people with them
Like I just every time and it's been a while in in fairness, but
Every time I tried to daily one. I just found that it was more work
manually faffing about with it than it would be to,
but I have a built-in vac, so maybe that's part of it,
but it was more work to faff about with the robot
than to just grab the vacuum hose and do a quick vacuum.
What are you doing faffing about with a robot?
Like I want one at the Christmas party.
You don't have to do anything.
Getting it unstuck on the fluffy carpet we had, like I don't know the Christmas party. You don't have to do anything. Getting it unstuck on like the the fluffy carpet
We had like I don't know just stuff
like going and fixing the parts that it like doesn't reach or dust bunnies accumulate
These days are living in apartments that don't even really have carpeted areas.
I mean, yeah, fair enough. I mean the early ones didn't
Really like handle going under chairs and around chair legs
and stuff very well.
So there was just, there was a lot of manual cleaning
leftover afterward.
It just didn't really save me much time.
But like I said, it's been a while.
The one that I won from the Christmas party
has saved tons of time for us to be honest,
because the whole birds are really messy thing.
They're really messy, but they're also
It's a contain. Yeah, it's not an incredible like it's not disgusting It's just a lot of like little poofs of feather or dandruff or whatever else
Little budgie poops that are just like dots of very easy to vacuum up whatever
So it's very easy for it to do, but if you don't deal with it, it's
like kind of gross and builds up.
But if you just have the vacuum just run by every day, it's like, that's fine.
Uh, yeah, I don't know.
They're really expensive though.
Like I, my theory on the whole robot vacuum sponsor thing was just
that they were so profitable.
Like I just looked up best vacuum cleaner and there's some verge article and the top one is 40% off.
Yeah, it's for over a thousand dollars.
We have a whole video coming on that very soon, just like listicles and affiliate revenue and how that whole big discounts,
how that whole thing works.
I also think here, let's see what ratings says,
cause doesn't, I think ratings does robot vacuums
and I'd trust them, but I don't trust the listicles.
Robot vacuums, okay.
Did they also say Roborock is the best?
Let's see
Yep, okay fair enough
Cuz like I well they do for best vacuum for pet hair The first one that came up was Roborock s8 Pro ultra
I was thinking like I see Roborock everywhere like is this are they just buying position or what?
Did dude?
I've got this is huge. Sorry. I just saw this
Microsoft teases copilot for gaming
I heard Dan laugh in the background. Yeah
You got me too. I
Yeah. You got me too. Yesterday, Microsoft announced that they are preparing to add AI to their gaming platforms in the form of Copilot for Gaming,
which they call the ultimate gaming sidekick.
They then showed off some potential use cases, like what to do next in Minecraft,
a recap of a player's previous progress in Age of Empires IV, and bringing up a strategy guide to defeat a boss.
This is a quote,
Gaming is the only form of entertainment where you can get stuck.
Wait, and they seem to think their AI companion can help with that.
Microsoft also showed off an admittedly pretty cool demo where a co-pilot for gaming told a player what character to choose in Overwatch 2,
and then offered advice after they died like, You pushed up too far, consider falling back to your teammates.
If the final product manages to actually do this, it could be interesting, but we'll have
to wait to see how it actually performs in the real world.
Video game publications were quick to ask the question, hey, how exactly is it getting
its information, and from where?
This is from Polygon. Voicing concerns that Microsoft has just sifted through all of the guides that they made and through that info
into an LLM
This is an Alex probably dead
In the official Xbox podcast about this there were multiple times for the hosts said things like
My mom has been getting really into gaming
So I think so many times Co-Pilot could just
answer this question for her.
It's like, bro, your mom probably is just using games
as a way to connect with you and AI assistant sounds like
it would make it a lonelier experience for her.
Yeah.
Yeah, thanks Alex.
Oh, that's the whole reason I don't like this.
So great, perfect way to lay it out, Alex. I appreciate that.
Thanks for playing with me, Mom. Actually, I don't want to explain this to you. Can you just ask the AI?
This is the same like...
I don't know it's planned to be available to insiders this April but our
discussion question forget about what it can do here
what would you like a gaming AI companion to do in single-player games yes it could be fun if there were more dynamic and lively AI
buddies I guess like something I thought about is if you were playing like a squad based combat game of some sort and sure you
didn't have those six yeah and but you didn't have to do keyboard commands or
whatever to like you know okay I have to walk up to the door then I have to look
at the left side of the door and be like okay you guys stack up here and then go
they went in the wrong order so I need to get this guy out get this good and
there's you're sitting there doing all these keyboard commands
in front of the door and then finally, okay.
And then you press whatever button
and then things don't go properly.
It's really annoying.
I find a lot of times when you have multi unit control
in a single player games,
things can get a little tedious.
And if you could just voice command.
Built into games.
It'd be sweet.
This is co-pilot.
Yeah, I don't want that at all.
I don't want co-pilot even a little bit. I think mr. Wizard and floatplane chat has a good one
All right AI
That was a six-shot bro. Want me to throw that clip on a timeline for you
That's pretty good
That's a use case. I probably want it to shut the hell up because if I just made a six shot
I'm probably trying to make another one and I want to be able to listen.
Don't talk to me right now.
I'm trying to focus.
I just got my clip and I would like to try to get another shot.
And then when I'm done,
I can go bump a dump and get my clip myself because it just recorded the last
20 minutes because I have shadow play enabled because why not?
Okay, okay. I do not anyone else has anything sick shot bro in the chat stick on the chat
Hey Xbox clip that
Yeah, they've got nothing else man
Yeah, there isn't anything else because it's just there's this like there's this whole concept of
And I don't remember who popularized it or whatever, but there's this whole concept that
When when a medium
gets surpassed its flaws will be romanticized and will be
immediate almost immediately emulated.
So like if somebody didn't like something about a certain medium, if somebody didn't like that,
there was very limited range in eight bit music, people will go back and try to make it or film
grain or something like that. We are currently living in an era where people are trying to find retro cameras because they like the feeling that the retro cameras
are able to create. When you lose this, you lose like, perfection is in some ways a loss
of character. Like you lose like these interesting tidbits of this thing that you made. So I, I, this is something that I constantly complain about.
Like I, I've talked about how, you know, when, when computer stuff was more
volatile, when it was more difficult, when parts failed more often, when we had
liquid caps and he had to try to fix that.
And when things went wrong all the time and it was kind of hard, it was more interesting.
It was more engaging.
It was a better hobby, in my opinion, objectively.
It's still cool, but in my opinion, it was just better.
SLI was like kind of junk, but it was interesting.
It was fun, it was unique.
It was weird.
And maybe better is a strong word,
but we could say more interesting.
More interesting, more enjoyable.
To someone with my interests and my personality, better.
Maybe not better for everyone, but better for me at least.
You have this like marching forward where things get worse.
Internet gets better, land parties are almost killed.
Because why bother?
Yeah, we're going to bring them back, Luke.
Luke, we're bringing them back.
And that's cool because we are romanticizing the bad parts of something in the past that
created something good that we find endearing, which is great.
And I like that because we're bringing back LAN parties, LAN parties are dope.
But LAN parties started to die when the internet got too good.
But I genuinely think people enjoy playing games together online less than just doing the
lamp. I 100% agree and I think we have to find a... sorry I'll let you finish this
bit but I got to talk to you about something after. No I'm like effectively
done it's just this is this just is is fearful for me because I see this
reducing online co-op gameplay or playing with your friends and like, hey, I want to
pick up this game.
You've been playing it for a while.
Do you want to like watch me play for a bit and help me get better?
Or can we play together so I can learn from you or whatever?
That's going to disappear when people are like, oh, just play with copilot for a while
and then play with me.
I don't want to carry you.
And it's like, man, that sucks.
So I was playing vampire survivors last night and it occurred to me that there's like, there's
one coffin I'm trying to find or something and like I couldn't like find it, I couldn't
figure out how to get over to it and I was like frustrated and when I was reading through
this topic I was like oh yeah that could totally help me with that or it could advise me like
which weapon to take because you know I saw already earlier in this playthrough that its companion one
for the upgrade is one of the ones that's getting rolled, so I should take this one
so it could...
There's things that it could observe, but I've gone out of my way in that game to not
look anything up, so I've been able to kind of discover it as I go and I could look something up and
I just feel like, you know, for me, the voyage of discovery is such a big part of the joy
of playing a game.
But maybe, you know, maybe that's just old fashioned and maybe people are going to look
at-
The like high quality joy, which is I think another somewhat, I'm sure people can make this argument
for previous things as well. But I think this is somewhat of a modern problem where there's like
a lot of low quality dopamine, low quality joy. That weak hit. Yeah. Weak but constant, right?
Like it's that thing that I was just describing with the land party. Like you have to do a lot of work, especially if you're not just going to one. Like if you have to,
if you're just doing one at your buddy's house or whatever, you have to, you know, bring tables over,
bring chairs over, bring your whole computer over, do all these types of things, set everything up,
network everything together. There's all these steps. It's work, but then the hit is strong,
right? Like it's, it's really cool. The heights are really high. You're going to remember this stuff forever.
If you just co-op playing games online or competitive playing games.
That halo round that was like one with a second to spare or whatever.
Never forget it.
Never.
That was crazy.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
Yeah.
But it's like, it's, that exact same scenario could happen purely online and it'd be cool.
But it's not the same.
Yeah, but no one else was there.
It's not the same.
So you lose that social element.
The microphone from the person who's screaming and cheering is getting auto-ganged down.
You're not seeing the physical presence of people.
I think it's like 70% of communication is body language.
You're not seeing any of it.
It's not the same.
You're diluting the experience.
And I just, this type of stuff, just,
it's just dread for me.
It's just like, damn, we're losing another thing.
That's all it feels like.
Okay, so here's something I wanna figure out for Whaleland.
Cause one of the best Experiences for me
Gaming wise is like sitting all together
Having the teams sit together. You know what I mean?
I really like that kind of suck about it
You know Mike bleed or you know, whatever right like you can find issues with it, but
Like I wanted I want to do some team games where we literally go, okay, I know you have all your
stuff set up over there.
Too bad.
Pick up your computer.
The first eight people who have their computers at these desks, at this desk, and the first
eight people that have their computers across from them
We're playing let's go. We're playing Halo CE or we're playing, you know, whatever right?
We're playing words. It's gonna be whatever laptop and Steam Deck users
That just run over and wait immediately. Ah
Okay, whatever we'll have... I like the concept though.
I'm down with the general concept. Yeah. Yeah. I want to not sell every seat. I want to have
like a reserved area. So, um... And I don't care if anyone else cares about it. Because for me,
it's like when someone... When you get someone, I want to be able to stand up and be like,
got him! You know? Like I want wanna be able to look them in the eye
and vice versa.
Like I genuinely, I enjoy the trash talk element
of LAN gaming, whether it's directed at me
or whether it's directed at other people.
It adds so much energy to it.
And so I wanna find a way to have the small LAN experience
where everybody's playing the same game, you're
effectively all packed in a room playing together, within a big LAN that has over 200 people
at it. That's what I want to figure out.
Yeah, I, um, Pax in its LAN Prime, in my opinion, not to, not to pun with the prime thing. They had tournament tables. So they would have, generally it was
five. So they'd have five computers and they did, they did back to back monitors. So you'd
have one, one team on one side, the other team on the other side. So if you stood up,
you're looking at the other team and they'd have a section that was like that, or they
would have a stage and it was five on one side,
five on the other side. So it's all flat, but then there would be like the, the big
screen that shows the like spectator view or the commentators or whatever would be in
the middle and the teams on each side, or you're off on the side and you're, you're
just facing each other. Um, and they used to do that a lot and it was sick. And it was
the, this is all a part of the like, it matters, man. I swear it matters. I know, I know it and it was sick and it was the...
This is all a part of the like, it matters man, I swear it matters. I know it's like weird and seems like romanticized and sensationalized, but I swear it matters.
When it's your team's turn and you and all your buddies that are sitting in one part
all have to stand up and like leave your kit and walk over to this other area.
And now you know, like that team's on the same computers as we are.
They have the same peripherals as us.
We're sitting on a land connection and it's like me and the boys or me and whoever excuses
and like just the walk over is such a psychological moment.
Yeah, like you and your friends you've been playing games with for years or whatever, Walk over is such a psychological moment. Yeah.
Of like you and your friends you've been playing games with
for years or whatever, effectively marching over
to this other side to put it on the line
against these other guys.
In some game you've probably never even played
or haven't played in years.
And these other guys across the table, who knows?
Maybe they have, maybe they haven't.
But like, you're so invested in that moment.
It's so sick. Like I remember just so many of those because
We would sign up for a ton of tournaments all the time just because that part of it was so much fun
I did a minecraft tournament one time. I'm pretty sure I had never even played minecraft before
I remember one of the the tournament people was like do you even know like what you're doing? I was like no
But I just people was like do you even know like what you're doing and I was like no but I just I was like maybe yeah maybe in that situation I was like maybe I can figure it out oftentimes I could do pretty okay in
games with no like actual real practice someone said how I don't remember you
had to like get wheat or something and do some other things it was like you had
to finish a certain list of tasks and I, and I didn't come in last,
but still, um, I don't know. There's, uh, these like steps involved the, when you make things too
easy, you, some, you very often lose the, lose the fun. You lose the quality dopamine. There's
this whole concept of type two fun. And that I think is like almost too extreme.
I think sometimes just, it can still be easy fun, but if you make it too easy,
it's you just lose all the quality.
Yeah.
Anything, uh, anything worth doing is, is work.
Yeah, pretty much.
So I, huh, man, it's the team balance that I want to figure out.
Cause I don't want, I don't want to have like, like if we're doing the whole, the teams
facing each other set up, right?
It's really hard to do team balance.
It's like, okay, yeah, can you guys switch teams?
And it involves like unplugging and moving.
Not necessarily unplugging.
So I hear, I hear what you're saying.
And for our events, it might have to be unplugging but
At PAX they had computers there already
They had setups there already that was
Intel LAN fest or whatever though. Yeah, so it might might not be super possible
But that was that was pretty sick. I mean, I think there's some pretty cool ways.
I don't know. I think there's some pretty cool ways you could make it a spectacle too.
We could also just build computers and just have standardized setups for it.
That way we wouldn't have to deal with like connectivity issues or whatever else.
It would just all already be set up for the games that we really want to do that for.
I might just not even bring a computer I might just hang out there the
whole time you're involved in every tournament game it's like one of the
players no matter what oh it wouldn't be for tournament it would just be for like
head-to-head head-to-head games it's not necessarily which is so sick to be
honest like this is it's the yeah
I don't know. It's practically the state the lower the stakes like the harder. I'll fight. It's almost more fun
Yeah, who cares like that's that's yeah, so yeah a lot of the best land games are games that people don't play all the time
It's um yeah, yeah, okay
There isn't a very many there was some but there weren't very many tournaments where they were games that I actually played that I had a
ton of fun with. Um, yeah, it was mostly games that I didn't really play, but
most other people didn't really play either. So that made it cool.
We got to try to do that. RTS FPS one for you.
Yeah.
Like we got to just, we got to just do do it got to just like draw a line down
the middle of the facility and go okay let's go it's so old now but I would I
would love to do it yeah maybe sweet all right what else we got oh LMG community
member fixes corrupted when vaughn yeah user boy1321 posted on the LTT subreddit that they managed to save roughly 95% of those
corrupted WAN shows between 2012 and 2015.
To get some context, these files became corrupted due to YouTube retroactively re-encoding older
VODs across the platform.
They've made a YouTube channel, LTT Archive, which has most of the recovered videos up right now
if you'd like to go watch Young Luke and Linus.
But, recently, YouTube has also been testing DRM on their videos
as an attempt to circumvent the downloading of YouTube videos,
meaning something like this might not be possible in the future.
So far, the videos that have seen this happen have had this DRM forced upon those videos including some videos that are licensed as creative
comments
So our discussion question here is are we going to sue the hell out of this guy for re-uploading our content? Yeah
No, no what we would do is we would just
Say hey if it's monetized
That's our content and you know we should probably get the monetization for it
however in this case
My this is not a decision that I would make on my own anymore
I want to make that very clear, but my inclination would be to just fully leave it alone just because
It was transformative in a sense
in that it re-transformed back to the original state after the platform that we were on ruined
it and it's not like we were going to make a ton of money from these anyway so um oh they're in
full playtime oh hey look at that okay what's up, look at that. Okay, sup, pugboy.
But this is not a decision that I would make on my own.
It is technically our IP, and I don't know what our IP, not grip, grip and pieces.
It's technically our IP, and I don't know what the implications are if we don't actively
protect it.
I know that with trademarks, for instance, that can be a problem.
So I don't know.
I'm not giving a final answer on that right now, but my inclination is to leave it alone.
And then our other discussion question is,
if YouTube forces DRM, like forces encryption
on media uploaded to the site,
who owns it now that it's uploaded?
I think YouTube's been pretty clear for a long time
that they own the rights for it.
It will still be your content, but it will be basically binary.
You either upload it to the site and it's available on the site, or you delete it from
the site and that's it.
In a way, I could actually see rights holders preferring this system because then nobody else can theoretically
download the content and re-upload it somewhere else.
So it does give you, the owner of that content, the ability to control where it is uploaded
to theoretically.
But I sincerely doubt that this encryption will remain unbroken for any meaningful amount of time.
I found a one of the archives that was recovered or restored.
I'll go with that.
Let's see.
Oh yeah, you and Rich.
Both wearing my Razor comms.
Both were. Yeah, the sponsored by by razor comms was a crazy throwback
Rich being on the channel was a bit of a throwback hasn't been on here a long time
And then we're both wearing like Starcraft fanboy shirts
And then look at the title I
Can't even see it in my preview
We hit we it's probably late enough in the video. I can just say it it in my preview. It's small. It's probably late enough in the
video I can just say it.
League of Legends. Oh my god.
Okay. Oh man.
Good times. Good era. 2013. Good stuff.
Charged Nuclei says encryption can never Good times, good era, 2013, good stuff.
Charged Nuclei says, encryption can never be broken.
No, but it can be leaked.
It can be broken.
And if it isn't broken, it can be leaked.
Yeah, wait, what is that statement?
And because this is video that will have to be played back online, the keys will have
to be owned by someone.
And so yeah yeah at some point
Yeah
Encryption can never be broken. I
Think they might have been slash s-ing but just didn't slash s I just wanted to go get out there and about though, okay
I see
Why Isn't my chromecast working so you hoarded chromecast audios to sell
on eBay since there's still no alternative on the market sorry sorry
sorry one second one second one second have you ever found this jacket no I
never found it again I loved that jacket no I
Don't know what happened to it. Sorry keep going um
So you hoarded chromecast audios to sell on eBay blah blah blah etc
But is your investment compromised because suddenly chromecast gen 2 and chromecast audio devices weren't working this week
Even poor James from our team was affected. He had to chop his veggies in silence.
Google became aware of the issue on Monday,
identified the cause on Tuesday,
and by today had started rolling out updates to devices.
You can force the update by unplugging and plugging back in.
Our discussion question is,
when will you children learn that owning things and storing locally is the only way?
Yeah, it's just not the convenient way.
Warner Brothers DVDs are apparently rotting, but Warner Bros. has acknowledged the problem
and is working with consumers to replace defective discs, although in some cases the affected
titles are no longer in print or the rights have expired, and in those cases, Warner is
offering to exchange the defective discs for other titles of like value. Discussion
question, how would you like to trade that busted old copy of Casablanca for a shiny
new Ernest Goes to Camp? That's about all I have to say about that. That's a rapid fire
topic. And then our last major discussion topic, I think, is after Je's in-car ads glitch, Indian company Mahindra shows ads on the dashboard
screen.
Back in February, the Autopian reported on Jeep vehicles displaying a full-screen ad
for FlexCare Extended Care Premium Plans appearing on some owners' infotainment systems.
They posted a couple of Reddit links from rslashaholdesign with screenshots.
Do you want to show the screenshots, Luke?
Sure.
One of the posters noted that the message appears every time the car stops, even if they hit the OK button.
Eventually, Stellantis responded to inquiries with this official statement.
This was an in-vehicle message designed to inform Jeep customers about Mopar extended vehicle care options.
A temporary software glitch affected the ability to instantly opt out in a few isolated cases,
though instant opt out is the standard for all of our in-vehicle messages.
Our team had already identified and corrected the error,
and we are following up directly with the customer to ensure the matter is fully resolved.
With that said, ads being shown on car touchscreens has been a concern for a while.
Rushlane reported back in November of 2021 that Indian manufacturer Mahindra had an option for
advertisements in their XUV700. And if you fast forward to present day, a Redditor Spartan
underscore Creed YT has posted a picture on r slash Cars India showing their infotainment with
an advertisement for Scotch-Brite with an Amazon Echo Dot saying
Ale XA give me cleaning tips and the Scotch-Brite logo beside it Luke. Do you want to show that reddit post? Yeah, I
am I use ways in my minivan where I don't have Android auto and
When I stop sometimes it pops up ads.
It is ridiculously distracting,
because the human eye, we're predators,
the human eye is attracted to sudden movement,
and they know that.
So when they pop up a thing,
it is absolutely designed to draw your eye.
And while my phone, on its little windshield mount
is not that far off of where I'm supposed to be looking,
and it does pop up only when I am not moving,
it absolutely draws my eyes away from the road.
I hate it.
I would like this to be illegal.
This is one of those cases where- Me too. I think you should be. This is one of those cases where being just militantly anti-regulation is just actually
stupid because if we have no regulation, this is what we get.
Laws exist in many cases for a reason.
I'm not saying that every regulation is good or that we have the right amount right now.
I'm just saying that if you are just 100% opposed to any regulation, you've actually not thought about it enough. Yeah. I have,
you know, I, I've, I've not super knowledgeable about cars,
but I've thought about it enough and I'm relatively certain it's just a battery
and it'll be fine. But, uh, my car didn't start today.
Oh no. Are you going to need a new car?
No, I think it's just battery. I'm pretty sure it's just battery.
I did, I was like, my gut reaction was like, no way it's just battery, I just put in a
new battery.
And then I thought about it, I was like, I put in a new battery at the start of COVID.
I did not just put in a new battery.
It's been a while.
I think it's fine, it might be the battery.
Let's check it after the show.
Oh it's not here.
Oh, your car like did not start.
Yeah.
Oh.
You didn't jump it and then came to work.
Well, yeah, no one was there.
I would have, nobody was there.
I had to take an Uber.
Do you want to ride home?
I might be down.
That would be sweet. Okay.
Thank you.
I'm also sick though.
So I don't know.
Maybe I'll see this in the trunk. Yeah, cool. Perfect. I'm down
I saw someone posting a chat
about the um, apparently google timeline has been deleting people's histories even after agreeing to the new terms back in december
So I was checking mine
Mine's still here. I actually
Care an irrational amount about my Google timeline.
It's like, you know, a history of all the places
that I've gone, which is a few places over the years.
And it has like all of my work trips and stuff.
I'd be super not stoked if my timeline was deleted.
I still have it.
But yeah, apparently some of them have been getting deleted.
That's a bummer.
Because it's like, it's kind of my journal in a way.
Andrew Candy says, yup, my timeline history is completely gone.
I'm pissed. Yeah, I don't I don't blame you. I hasler says I same here. I started doing
the self hosted. Yeah, okay. Apparently, you can use Google takeout to get it as an export
and then import it back in. Oh, that is so annoying. How much? Oh, man, how much work was it for them to hold on to this? Like really?
Hahaha
That blows.
Sort by most visited. What are the places I go to most? Shopping then food and drink then hotels then attractions then sports then culture then airports. Yeah a lot of airports
Let's see, how do I even find this?
Timeline yeah, is it in maps? Oh you go to Google Maps?
Yeah, and then you click on your profile picture
Okay, and then you go to your time. There it is. I've done it before I just didn't remember okay
Where is your how do I find my ranking thing?
Insights I think I had it under places places. Yep
Man I've apparently visited a hundred eighty-five cities. That's crazy.
That is, that is pretty nuts.
Remember too though that like, you know, San Jose and Santa Clara and Sunnyvale all count
as cities. Yeah.
Surrey and Richmond and Vancouver are technically cities like, yeah, sure.
Whatever.
Yeah.
Uh, mine is shopping, food and drink, airports, sports, culture, hotels,
attractions in that order.
A lot of airports.
You're an airport king then.
Yeah.
When the heck was I ever in Calgary?
That must've just been a layover.
Seven years ago. Yeah. I've been to Calgary International Airport, a Shell gas station, and Whitespot.
Oh, that's right! That was from the Banff Workation. I have been to Calgary.
Alright. Why is Banff not on here? Well, okay. Good try everyone.
VP said invest in a jumper pack saved my butt several times. Honestly man, I've thought
about it like so many times. I just never pulled the trigger which...
Jumper pack?
Yeah, you can jump yourself basically.
Oh, oh, oh.
For the car.
Yeah, I have one in my garage. I don't keep it in my car because I'm an idiot Yeah, like I did it's I'm clear when I when I get a new battery this time. I will
Clearly just also get one of those I like I've been aware of it
I just I don't know why I haven't pulled the trigger on that. I'll figure it out
There's clearly a few actual like hey, I work in a shop car people
I've already gotten a good recommendation on a battery. Does someone have a good recommendation on a jumper pack?
Can I just I'm doing that thing from earlier, right? I'm not I'm not I like car stuff
I watch some car YouTube stuff, but I don't I'm not highly knowledgeable of it
They won't they cost money yes, but see
This it can also save money because I had
to get an Uber to get to work today.
And that sucked.
That was a, that was a, I did not like that expensive money.
Whereas a jumper pack can bail me out of bad situations and save me money on Ubers.
Our final topic, Apple's at it again. They have delayed some of their AI-powered personalized
Siri features until later this year, some reports say indefinitely, and some people
within Apple's AI division have reportedly said the features might get cancelled outright.
Apple has pulled the Bella Ramsey video advertising the feature and added a disclaimer to the
iPhone product pages. People are mad and have accused Apple of false advertising.
Our discussion question is, how are you?
I'm proud of you for making it this far on the Lanshow Doc.
I don't really have a discussion question.
I just hope you're having fun.
Love it.
Thank you for that.
Here's my question.
Yes. Here's my question. Yes, we should be mad at Apple for advertising features that they are delivering late or
won't deliver at all.
Who, Tesla?
But when we think about the amount of money involved, where is this outrage from the Tesla
user base?
Seriously though.
Almost got him.
I thought you were just hard ignoring me.
Because you were like, no, I won't be baited.
And then you just dove in.
Like wow.
It is it is mind blowing to me that it is not
Okay, is
Tesla speedrunning going out of business right now
Maybe it kind of seems like it
It kind of seems like it. Oh
Dude, it's already lost all the gains since the election
Apparently today. It's up almost 4%.
Yeah, but-
The one month is down 29%.
Even a dead cat bounces if you throw it at the floor hard enough.
I noticed this a few days ago.
Okay, so the scales are nuts.
And like I am not investment boy, so I'm sure people are gonna be like,
you don't know stuff.
And that's 100%, you're right, I don't.
But look at this, one day, okay, it's up almost four percent five days
Yeah, it's down one percent one month. It's down twenty nine and a half percent six months
It it's it's up ten percent year-to-date down
One year way up
Five years way up. That's kind of obvious, but it's just like yeah. Whoa the fact that it is
up ten percent from six months ago is
Interesting to me did you I did you see the Tesla commercial on the front lawn of the White House sure did the whole
It's all computer it's all computer.
It's all computer.
It's just all computer.
Schraf 2K says Linus gets full credit
for being an early Elon hate adopter.
I don't hate him.
What I don't like is that he lies and misleads.
I don't like that he obviously thinks that he should not have
to answer difficult questions when it comes to the safety of the vehicles or
when it comes to reporters investigating their quality or whatever the case may
be. He thinks it is amusing to reply with a poop emoji to real questions that deserve answers.
These are things that reveal his character.
I don't respect those aspects of his character. I don't hate him.
I literally bought a Model Y for my in-laws because they wanted one.
I have voted with my wallet that if the product is good enough, clearly I'll buy it.
But what I have said for years and years and years is that he has revealed his character.
His character is that he thinks he is beyond being questioned.
His character is that he doesn't believe in the value of worker protections
His character is that he believes that he can just say something and not be held to account for it. That's his character
We wouldn't be friends
But I don't hate him
It's also I've said this on the show before, it's also clear that,
know what?
I'm not going to repeat my previous statement, but what I'll say is this.
I run one company and I have three children.
That is very difficult to balance while being a quality father
to my three children with one wife. What if you had two wife?
What if I had four times as many children?
To imagine for a second that I am quality fathering twelve children across a multitude of wives is laughable because quality being
a father is a ton of work and that work you can't just like do it intensely for a little
bit and then like not do it for a while. It's constant and all of the dads out there watching
this are going to know that and one of the things that I've also talked about is that I think as men, we are not always choosing our role models extremely wisely these days.
And I think at the time back then, I talked about Musk, I talked about Jobs, Steve Jobs, as people who achieved a lot of really great stuff, but who I do not admire for
the way that they treated their partners, their baby mamas, and their children.
I do not think that those are admirable qualities. I don't think that
makes you a good man. I think being a good man means
Taking care of your progeny and doing it properly. Yeah, so I don't respect it the great stuff side is is legit right like
Yeah, you can say he bought Tesla. He didn't invent it. But yeah
best Diablo 4 player
In doing so he popularized electric cars cars which you can see is good or bad the stuff
with spacex is like genuinely insane um i don't even know the catch was like one of the most wild
things i've probably ever seen in my entire life but then everything that linus just said is also
legit so it sucks um one of the things that's been wild for me is the about face that a lot of people do.
Which is interesting.
Where there's like dramatic changes.
So you can like, you know, watch someone or follow someone or read their stuff or whatever
it is.
I don't know.
Watch their tiki-talkies.
And then, you know, in five years, maybe they're a completely different person.
It's like, damn, I don't know.
But he's got to move on. He cares.
And there's so many examples of this, Tufanuk in YouTube chats, like who names their son X.
in YouTube chats, like who names their son X, someone who doesn't respect that that will be
an adult person someday who probably wants to have
a name that isn't stupid and isn't a meme, you know?
Like treating kids like property that you could just
like meme on is so utterly disrespectful
of another human life.
One that you have a responsibility to take to care for and respect
uh... yes it's not cool
uh...
what i think that i'm not saying that just acts i think x is actually kind of
cool
uh...
others another one that is like a like stupider what
archangel
something something something
whatever which is wild uh... kind of sick laughing canadian says entirely
unrelated to musk and his family system and that's one way of putting it
i dislike couples that have like eight plus kids there's zero chance that's
healthy literally cannot raise that many kids properly actually i don't
necessarily believe that's true i was one of five
and when you're all under one roof,
by the time you have an eighth child,
your oldest is like probably at least 15,
and is contributing in a major way.
And I actually think that a hugely beneficial part
of my upbringing experience was being old enough to
remember babies. A huge part of being able to be an effective parent is that
I effectively did some of it when I was younger. I cared for small children and
obviously there weren't eight of us but you we didn't quite need a van, but we sure as
heck filled a minivan.
And there were great, great things that came from the social interactions of living with
people, not just having a sibling and living with your parents, but having to get along and having to share
and having to, you know, fight for things and learning when to yield.
These were all really important aspects of growing up that I think are actually lost
in very small families.
To be clear, I'm not saying having a small family is a wrong choice either. I'm just saying that condemning someone for having, you know, a
very large family because you don't think they can raise the kids properly,
I think overlooks how much raising children will do of each other as long as
there are sufficient checks and balances in place from the adult mentors
and role models.
I'm not talking going full Lord of the Flies here.
Just saying, just saying.
Try not to judge, try not to judge.
Unless you know the exact situation.
Yeah.
Moving on.
Yeah. I think that's it for topics.
I was going to say it's ten. Are we moving on to merch messages?
Yeah, I guess so. Is it after dark time? I think so.
I think it's after dark time.
Oh, yeah. That one.
Oh yeah, I guess my background doesn't change.
Not so dark.
There we go.
All right.
Yeah, I got a few for you here.
Hey, DLL.
I know Linus has the bike paint project.
Dan has the Hayabusa project.
But what is Luke's ongoing side project? Flow plane in the lab?
His second job.
To be honest, yeah, outside of that, I have enough time to hopefully not be hated by my
partner, take care of birds or at least a little bit.
I mean, if she forgets you are and what you look like and what you sound like, she can't
really hate you.
And try to take care of my physical self as much as possible.
But yeah, I mean, lately it's been a lot of work.
We're hiring.
Hey, we're hiring. Help me, help me, help.
Please.
Yeah, that's about it.
Hey Wanshow, with the new Zeus GPU being floated, what are your thoughts on how this will shake up the GPU market if it successfully launches?
I'll believe it when I see it.
I, yeah, I don't, I'm not putting a lot of stock in those claims.
I mean, we saw, what's it, more threads, the Chinese GPU company that managed to build
a functioning GPU, which was more than I expected, but like, come on.
I think it's pretty clear from their efforts and from just what we know,
because we just know that, that building a GPU and hardware is not a hard part.
Look at what Intel did with the ARK.
They built the ARK GPU.
There it is.
It's an ARK GPU.
But even with Intel's literal decades of experience on the software side, it was still an enormous challenge
to get that thing over the line and get it performing half-decent. So
Yeah, sure, whatever. Good luck guys.
Hi, Dan Luke and Linus question for Linus. I have the original carabiners on my backpack.
Not really a question. Wait for Linus. Don't interrupt.
Should I go ahead and replace them with, even though they're okay? It's up to you, man. You could totally
replace them or you could totally not. I replaced the one on mine that broke so my backpack
looks stupid. I can't say I would recommend that. But it's a, I was going to say it's
a free country but I have no idea where you're from but
Do whatever you want
it's your backpack I
Didn't talk about this a lot because I didn't want to dissuade people from doing it
But I think it's been long enough now that I can talk about it
I I use the backpack all the time and I had never had any problems with any of my carabiners
Until and I had never had any problems with any of my carabiners until you're coming back from Disney
and one of the TSA ladies,
like cranked one of the carabiners for no reason.
I don't know, maybe she knew, no, there's no way,
but just and like shoved her thumb through it.
And I was like, what?
And I kind of like grabbed it and
pushed it back and it's fine luckily but I I was like certain it was just gonna get snapped right
off and I tested it a bunch of times it seems okay but I think I was lucky more than anything
it was originally like completely past the post like it was it was out I was just it was probably one or two millimeters further and it would have been permanently broken but yeah outside of
that close call they've all been fine
hi Linus I recently cleared ff7 for the first time and boy it has a lot of
busted exploits do you have a particular exploit or trick for an older Final Fantasy or other game you like to take
advantage of? I don't actually love taking advantage of exploits because I
like to I like to play the game kind of the way that the... I use the term good faith a lot, but it's kind of
like a... it kind of is like a catch-all term for how I like to engage with things and how
I like to be engaged with. So I like to play a game at least the first time around. You
know, obviously it's fun to find broken builds or whatever, right? But I like to play a game at least the first time around. Obviously it's fun to find broken builds or whatever, right?
But I like to play a game the way that the developer kind of intended for it to be played through,
what they thought was supposed to be fun.
So I tend to try to not look up too much.
I tend to rely only on the first party resources that I was supposed to have
if I bought the game and I got the manual, or I read through the store page and played the tutorial or whatever else.
I try not to look too hard for things that are completely broken.
But if there was one that I would say would be kind of fun to exploit broken
stuff in, I guess it would probably be like Final Fantasy Tactics because it can be pretty
fun to build god characters that can't be hit and stuff like that.
But it also takes the challenge out.
I like a big part of gaming for me is feeling like I overcame a challenge.
Otherwise, what am I even doing here?
I don't mind it as much in like tape to tape.
Luke, I was telling you I'm saving a run that I'm in the middle of for the next time we can play together
because wow, is it ever broken.
But what's cool about that is it's just like
this self-contained one hour run.
Whereas like if I'm breaking a game
like Final Fantasy Tactics that's like, you know,
30 plus hours to do a play through,
I'm just, I'm removing the fun challenge
that will be the final boss.
And why am I even playing the rest of it?
I should just watch the cutscenes on YouTube, right?
It just feels kind of pointless to me.
But I'm not, you know, if someone else enjoys a different element at that game, that's totally,
totally for them.
But it's not what I enjoy.
Hi, DLL. I apparently made a mistake ordering a 4x24 gigabyte kit of 8,000 megatransfer RAM on
my new AM5 board, as it can only reach 5,600 megatransfers per second stable.
What's the deal with this generation?
Does everyone just buy two?
Yeah, everyone just buys two sticks.
You're lucky to get 56, that's pretty good.
My preschool-aged daughter is getting into gaming and just beat Astro Bot.
Do you have any recommendations for games that, games like that for her to try next
that involve problem solving?
I had never even heard of Astro Bot.
It's like the PS5 launch title. You're like playing the PlayStation
mascot I think. It's like Mac. But people love it. It's very highly rated. Oh interesting.
Wow five stars. I think it won like game of the year or something. I have no idea. I mean
if you're... It's a medical must miss play if they're playing like it was game early
Adult suitable games. I don't mean like an adult game. I just mean a game that like adults would enjoy
Well, then they could play like any fun platform or game
I actually enjoyed the crap out of Lucky's Tale even though it was just like supposed to be like a crappy showcase title. I thought
You can also give her some retro games, you know some
old-fashioned Super Mario World. My kids loved it in spite of how old it was.
Looking at the game, but I've never played Astro Bot and maybe I'm just
totally wrong here, but looking at some of the gameplay like they might like
some of the Lego games. Hmm.
Ah, I just find them man.
Are they ever unchallenging?
But I guess for fear of preschool, that's fine.
Like I was apparently bringing their game development in house.
Even if it hurts profit, I guess they want to control the quality a little bit.
I've only tried a couple of them, but they seemed very mediocre.
Yeah.
I tried one and was like, I guess I'm not interested in any of these, which if
it's like a little kid game, sure, maybe I guess, but so was Super Mario Bros.
So I don't know.
It doesn't have to be that way.
And last one I got for you here.
Hey Riley, how you doing?
Hi, LLD.
I just bought a physical copy of Baldur's Gate for three Japan. Mr. Luke, as a man of culture yourself, do you think the
censorship will heavily affect the experience with the game? Will I be missing out?
Sorry, which game?
Baldur's Gate 3.
Baldur's Gate 3.
The censorship? Oh.
As a man of culture?
No. Ha ha ha.
How censored is the game in Japan?
It's always fun to me.
Japan's, or funny to me, Japan's like
s-s-sort of schizophrenic
approach to adult content.
Like, one day
they are...
You just gotta put a little line over it.
Yeah, and then the next day
it's just like, yeah, this is the next day is fine. It's like yeah
This is the most outlandish like weirdo stuff ever and I don't I don't know man
Are they just censoring like
Like nudie scenes or are they doing like gore and violence stuff I doubt gore and violence right it's probably just nude
Yeah, then I don't know whatever
It's fine
just nude yeah then I don't know whatever it's fine there's a setting in the game already to do that and like I'm sure a lot of people do that it's
probably just like checked on by default people streamed the heck out of that
game they probably had that stuff turned off yeah yeah yeah it's it's fine I'll enjoy it it's a fantastic game was that
it for Wensho today yeah all right well then I guess we'll see you again next
week same bad time same bad channel bye
someone leaked an escapist magazine article called We Were Spartans that was published
in 2011 that is like perfectly encapsulates how online gaming co-plans and why not.
It's bad.
Oh.
It's a good read.
Where is this?
Okay, maybe text it to me.
I can't see it.
Okay.
Bye.