The WAN Show - Gamers Overwhelmingly Prefer Fake Resolution - WAN Show February 20, 2026

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Welcome to the Wax Show! It's the year of the horse, baby, and we got a great show for you guys today. There's big changes at Xbox after nearly 40 years. Phil Spencer is out at Microsoft. So we'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about how gamers
Starting point is 00:00:27 apparently overwhelmingly prefer DLSS over FSR and in some cases over native? Is that? Could that be right? What else we got today? If you didn't like GPUs being up, if you didn't like RAM being up, well, you're not going to like hard drives being up. Hard drive capacity for Western Digital is sold out for 2026.
Starting point is 00:00:52 That's more sold out than Linus from Linus Tech Tips. Got them. I don't know. Oh, come on. Come on. There's no way Colton's team has everything sold out through the end of 2028. Wouldn't be surprised if they're close. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Don't make me call them. And speaking, no, I don't have a transition for this. Google suddenly carries about IP theft. When it applies to them, I guess. And no one else. The show is brought to you today by our WAN takeover partner, Thoram. Do I just say their name more times? Thorum?
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Starting point is 00:02:12 No, no Speaking of removals Yeah Big changes at Xbox Yeah After nearly 40 years with Microsoft, including 12 years leading the company's gaming efforts, Xbox Chief Phil Spencer is retiring. Now, before we go any further, Luke, I think, asked the big question on all of our
Starting point is 00:02:36 minds before the show started, and I wasn't sure what to say. I don't remember how I phrased it, but like, what do we think about this? Is this good? Is this bad? Are we mad? Are we happy? I mean, 12 years at Xbox oversaw a lot of Xbox, a lot of Xbox. A lot of a really good and a lot of really bad a lot of really really really not good unfortunately mostly really bad well especially if we factor in like the recency bias of it yeah things haven't been that's that's the thing that i'm struggling with yeah things haven't been good lately but what halo game came out 12 years ago but give me a second here give me a second here because as much as things have been kind of bad for the last little while
Starting point is 00:03:22 things might get worse. So let's get through the rest of the notes here. CEO Satchinadella announced to the departure in a memo to all staff earlier today, thanking Phil for his extraordinary leadership and partnership. Phil Spencer will remain an advisory role through the summer to support the transition, and Spencer's time at Microsoft saw him working on everything from Enkarta. Now, that's a name I've not heard in a while. Remember, the Encyclopedia on CD-ROM?
Starting point is 00:03:51 and MS works in the early years to the two and a half billion dollar purchase of Mojang Studios in 2014, which seemed crazy at the time, but ended up being like the smartest thing maybe ever. And there's $75 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard in 2023. Xbox president Sarah Bond is also leaving the software giant to begin a new chapter, according to Spencer. Asha Sharma, current president of the core A-I. product will be taking over as CEO of Microsoft Gaming. The look on your face is priceless. You look like you smell a turd.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You look like somebody smeared dog shit on your microphone and you just caught a whiff of it. It's just Sharma left a marketing role at Microsoft in 2013, returning in 2024 and away from Microsoft spent time as Meta's VP of Product and Engineering. and later as Instacart's C-O-O. The Verge notes that Sharma is not a gamer, like Phil Spencer, but does have consumer experience that should help with leading
Starting point is 00:05:04 such a large division of Microsoft. Okay, the memo, okay, just calm down, come down. I'm reading the internal memo. In an internal memo, let me read the memo. You don't read so good. That is rude. In a Tinturnal
Starting point is 00:05:26 Emno Sharma stated Sorry, I'm trying to do it like you. In an internal memo Sharma stated I got it I got it
Starting point is 00:05:41 We will celebrate our roots With a renewed commitment to Xbox Starting with console Which has shaped who we are I assume the console It connects us to the players And fans who invest in Xbox
Starting point is 00:05:53 and to the developers who build ambitious experiences for it. Microsoft's video game revenue dropped by about 10% year to year in the December quarter compared to a 17% increase company-wide, but it doesn't appear that Sharma will be pushing for a short-term fix, stating, as monetization and AI evolve and influence this future, we will not chase short-term efficiency or flood our ecosystem with soulless AI Slop. Games are and always will be art,
Starting point is 00:06:28 crafted by humans, and created with the most innovative technology provided by us. Matt Booty, previously head of Microsoft's gaming studios, has been promoted to executive vice president and chief content officer under Charma. So, huge AI background.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I always liked that Phil Spencer was legitimately a gamer. Yeah. I thought it was good. While I did think there was a lot of missteps, the naming of the consoles was actually so insanely bad that I think it genuinely significantly negatively impacted sales. And the brand.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It just makes you look like incompetent dunderheads. Yeah. And like we knew this from Wii you when like a massive percentage of people thought it was just like some add-on thing for the Wii and didn't realize it was a new console. Like you actually need to name things properly. and they just didn't forever, which was crazy. The wildest part is whether it's within the same vertical
Starting point is 00:07:32 or even sometimes within the same company, when it's so clear by the overwhelming, incredible success of simply named products that are easy to understand their positioning within the product stack, C, PlayStation, one, two, three, four, five. Simple. iPhone.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay. There's been a little bit of confusion in there, but generally speaking... For the most part, they've stayed true. Yeah, we've got the 3GS in there, and we got the X10, whatever you want to call that. There's been the odd, weird one. They would deviate a little bit here or there, but they'd come back. But in general, we come back to higher number, more better, easy to understand. And then you'll have Microsoft with just the most Bass-Ackwords naming scheme that I think probably exists
Starting point is 00:08:24 in technology, and then Apple themselves, where you have this completely indecipherable iPad naming scheme, for instance, where we start getting into like AJ 129 model year, just put a number on it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 My God, just put a number on it. Please, just tell me what generation of product this is. And, yeah, sorry, I hijacked your point. So there's been missteps, right? There's been a considerable amount of missteps. but at the same time it would be really reassuring when you'd hear that story
Starting point is 00:09:01 of people that were like trying to camp him in fallout 76 and he'd just like fight back like he was like okay I could kind of feel like he's one of us yeah a little bit and it did feel like while there were missteps
Starting point is 00:09:18 he was probably trying to steer in the right direction I think maybe I mean, there's been some big... There's been some really big missteps. Really big missteps. I mean, I don't think GamePass is ultimately turning into what we were sold.
Starting point is 00:09:37 We were sold an incredible value. And I think what we're getting is you'll own nothing and be happy. Can I make a really weird take here? I mean... I don't think Microsoft intended Game Pass to be what it is now. I think they wanted it to stay cheaper. I think they wanted it to... to do a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And I think user behavior wasn't exactly what they expected. I think developer behavior wasn't exactly what they expected. And I think their franchises didn't do what they expected. That's fair. I think they thought. See Starfield. Starfield. Like I looked into, you know, what game released the year Phil Spencer took over?
Starting point is 00:10:23 It was Master Chief Collection. So it's like, okay, that's not really fair. It's terrible, horrible, legendarily bad launch, but the same year he joined. I don't know. The next one was Halo 5 Guardians. It's like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I played that here. I don't know if you remember that, but I had to do a controller review of like the first elite controller, I think. Oh, okay, yeah. So I went to Willow and I rented it and then used some Xbox we had here
Starting point is 00:10:50 and I played it up in the conference room upstairs over like a weekend just to like play the heck out of the controller. and I remember finishing that campaign and just being like, oh, as like a massive fan of the first three games. Halo died because Bunchy left, not Phil Spencer, IMO. Sure, if you look back at the history of what happened there, they hired people that didn't like Halo intentionally.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, it's kind of like, I mean, and I hate to beat this dead horse, but it's kind of like what happened to Star Wars. It's almost exactly like what happened to Star Wars because Star Wars did the same thing. They intentionally hired people that did not like the franchise. They did that because they're like, we're trying to make something different. You can make something different
Starting point is 00:11:41 while hiring people that like the franchise. Here's my worry here. So, I mean, Phil Spencer's legacy is absolutely complicated. Very complicated. He oversaw incredible innovation. I mean, like let's not overlook some of the really cool stuff that Microsoft did. They were at the cutting edge when it came to accessible technology for gaming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Like genuinely really amazing controllers. Wow. I mean we I cannot sing Microsoft's praises loud enough for what they did to make gaming more accessible for people with physical disabilities and and other challenges. And they really, they really pushed the envelope in a way that couldn't possibly have paid off in in, in in money. Maybe it was, you know, the cynic in me goes, well, maybe they only did it because, you know, they were hoping for the positive press around the brand or whatever. But I don't actually think so, because it seemed like a genuine earnest effort to make gaming for everyone. And I just, I thought that was so incredibly cool. So, so based. I don't want to take anything away. And that costs a lot of
Starting point is 00:12:51 money. Oh, real money. Actual real money. Yeah. But then there's no question that they just couldn't. It's like they had a... They cooked multiple franchises. They closed studios that made amazing games. It's like the, it's like the driver was using one of their controllers with drift. And they just couldn't aim anywhere but down at their own feet sometimes. You know, like you just, they couldn't stop themselves from owning themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm genuinely not confident that I could get the Xbox models in the right order right now. Really? I'm not 100% confident that I could. I mean, that's not, that's not that hard. You've got Xbox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Xbox 360. Yeah. Xbox 1. Okay. Okay. And then what? Xbox 1X. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:13:40 And Xbox 1S. Okay. Yeah. And then is it series? And then you've got Xbox Series S and series X. Yeah. Okay. I think, did I get them all?
Starting point is 00:13:50 I think I got them all. I would have forgotten Xbox one. But I mean, if I saw the names, I think I would have gotten that in order if that was correct. Yeah, like it's comically stupid, but I mean, um, anyway, so back to your point. As complicated as his legacy is for exactly the same reason that, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:10 I don't love non-Star Wars people being in charge of Star Wars. Yeah, this is, and I don't love non-silican people being in charge of Intel. Yeah. I don't love non-gaming people being in charge of gaming. And I'm not saying there's no chance. I'm just concerned. Well, it's extremely concerning. I do really appreciate that one line.
Starting point is 00:14:31 We're not going to fill it with AI slot. Coming from the AI side of things, they needed to say that. Okay. They probably got some PR thing that was like, hey, you need to say this. But hear me out. In that same sentence, right in that same sentence. As monetization and AI evolve and influence this future. No, no, no, hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, no, just this sentence. Games aren't always will be art crafted by humans. okay doing really good here and created with the most innovative technology provided by us what innovative technology okay hear me out you know I've noticed a problem
Starting point is 00:15:21 I like watching a bunch of YouTube and I that one's for the millennials yeah yeah that was pretty good I like watching a bunch of YouTube and I've noticed that especially a lot of history videos have started a lot of AI slop showing up. AI generated picture slideshows with an AI voice
Starting point is 00:15:43 and I'll notice like a few minutes in I'll be like, hmm, there's not really breaks between sentences and like, I'm starting to get a little suss because AI voices are pretty good when they're really tuned in. And I'll scroll down into the comments and you try to search like, did anyone else kind of pick this up and you control f for AI and you get 10 trillion responses because it's like part of different words and stuff it's uh i feel like it's convenient that it's just AI I uh I ended up on
Starting point is 00:16:18 tech talk TikTok tech uh for the first time in several years because we're doing another trying TikTok hacks like you saw it like like I saw TikToks yeah that's what I'm saying Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what you're saying? What, what? Are you saying that you appeared on there or you looked at it? No, no, I was looking at it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was, we were doing another reacting to TikTok tech hacks. And so Adam curated a bunch of like shockingly large popular creators, shockingly popular pieces of content that are just either AI slop. with like tens of thousands of hearts, but like bad, like wrong advice that you should never follow or people who seem to be just
Starting point is 00:17:16 as an agent, as a human agent for their AI puppet master, regurgitating AI garbage that is stuff that no one should do. And then like, I can't believe how, how much of it goes to, to your point, unchallenged or is not easy to tell that it's fake and that it's just garbage. An interesting thing, too, is there was a thread on the Reddit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Where somebody was like, is this true? I think you've got to say the subreddit. Otherwise, you're at risk of sounding like you consulted the Google. Sure. Yeah. I don't read it that often. The subreddit. I only go to ours and it's not even ours and that's confusing and blah blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:18:05 whatever. Old Manneils at Cloud. Nice. But I went to the subreddit and there was a thread of somebody who saw some article that was like, I don't remember, I'm going to misquote it, but like HP abandons windows or something like that. And they're like, is this true? And it was like, or it was a video or something? I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:18:24 But it was like very clearly AI generated junk. It was not true. and the comments like roasted him for it. And I feel like we're falling... He's doing the right thing. I feel like we're falling back into shaming people for falling for scams. No. He did the right thing to ask.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. This is the worst memory recollection of all time. Oh, you haven't seen nothing. This man can... Tell me what happened then. Tell me what happened, huh? Huh? Link it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 We should get a... doesn't remember. No, I'm good. Don't touch it. I like this one. I like this one. I like doesn't know. But yeah, no, we need to,
Starting point is 00:19:08 we need to support each other rather than attack each other for seeking truth in a sea of AI slop. So let's all, let's all form an alliance. We'll make a pact that that's how we're going to respond to people asking about AI with kindness and with, um, compassion okay cool good chat why don't we jump into another topic we are we done with this one the
Starting point is 00:19:36 conclusion is basically just i have no idea we'll see how it goes but i don't have it honestly there's no okay okay no you know what we're not done because to me the frustrating part of bringing in a non-gamer is not that i think there's it's a guarantee that they'll do a bad job yeah um i'm not a fashionista but i think that i have done a good job of of trusting the team at Creator Warehouse to do a good job of that part of it, while also providing the financial backing and creating an environment
Starting point is 00:20:07 that gives them the resources to create quality products. See, I'm more focused on, like, how long does it last? Can I throw it in the tumble dryer? You know, these things that I know matter to our customers, and then their job is make sure
Starting point is 00:20:22 it looks cool and is not going to, you know, it looks professional, at the office and addresses the little details that I would overlook because that's from my background. But Phil being a gamer theoretically helps him understand what our customers want. You being dialed in with the audience helps you understand what our customers want. Yeah. I don't know that she is dialed. Maybe she is. I have no idea. But her not being a gamer makes me question if she's dialed into that audience. So I'm not saying, I'm not saying that. they're going to screw it up.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm just saying, would it have been that hard to find a leader who was a gamer? It doesn't feel like it. Like everyone games now. Would it have been that hard? To me, the main reason why I cringed when it said like,
Starting point is 00:21:15 oh, she came from an AI area in Microsoft, is that just seems to be the path now? Like, if you're a corporate jockey in Microsoft, you're just getting yourself into some form of AI something, because that seems to be the path to everywhere right now,
Starting point is 00:21:31 which doesn't seem good. And, you know, maybe this is a pattern recognizing when there is no pattern, but... I mean, it seems kind of like a pattern. It seems likely. All right. Let's jump right into our next topic here. A sponsor read, actually. You got to do the sponsor read now.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We can do whatever you want. Where is it? Down, down, down to the sponsor reads. All right. The show... Oh. No way. Oh, wait.
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Starting point is 00:23:11 I was just handed a thing. This is a thorum box. This is extremely confusing to me right now. I see DMS is here. What do you think is happening right now? I think you're getting married. You're such an observant person. I'm so proud of you.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Are you getting married? to me? I mean, I wasn't originally thinking that. Okay. This has never happened on Land Show before. Nobody told me I'm so underdressed. Where do I go? What do I do?
Starting point is 00:23:51 If you guys just scoot your chairs back a bit. I can do that. Okay. Watch out with her officiant. She's pretty critical to the process. Yeah, okay. We need the efficient. Because otherwise it wouldn't
Starting point is 00:24:03 be efficient. You not being aware of what was happening was pretty critical to the process, but your business team is amazing. I'll go here? Yes. Okay, out of here. Does anyone need this? Well, I figured you guys are going to hold onto those for a minute. Here, join us in the middle here. Okay, who? Here. Trying to make some space. A little bit of shuffling. Beautiful. Yeah, surprise, you're a legal witness. Last for words. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Welcome everybody to the marriage today. I see it's quite a bit of a surprise. Oh exciting. But we're gathered at this place to witness formal joining in the legal state of matrimony of this couple, according to order and custom prevailing and under the authority given and provided by me by the province. I charge with you both in the presence of these witnesses that that if either of you do not know of any legal impediment to this marriage, you do now reveal the same. So let DMS repeat after me.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I solemnly declare. I solemnly declare that I do not know. That I do not know. Of any lawful impediment. Why I. DMS. DMS. May not be joined.
Starting point is 00:25:29 May not be joined. In matrimony. In matrimony. To mochi. To mochi. Let Mochi repeat after me. I solemnly declare that I do not know of any lawful impediment why I, why I, Mochi, may not be joined in matrimony, may not be joined in matrimony
Starting point is 00:25:50 to DMS. To DMS. All right, the I do's. Do you DMS? Take Mochi to be your lawfully wedded wife to undertake and to afford the love of your person, the comfort of your comfort of your person, the comfort of your companionship and the patience of your understanding. Oh, I very much do. Do you Mochi? Take DMS to be your lawfully wedded husband, to undertake to afford the love of the person, the comfort of your companionship, the patience of your understanding. Hell yes. Now you want to join
Starting point is 00:26:34 hands. Repeat after me. DMS, I call on those present. I call on those present. To witness. To witness that I. To witness that I. DMS. DMS. Take. MOTCHI. To be my lawfully wedded wife.
Starting point is 00:26:54 To be my lawfully wedded wife. To have and to hold. To have and to hold. From this day forward. From this day forward. In whatever circumstances. In whatever circumstances. Or experience.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Or experience. Life may hold for us. Life may hold for us. Can't mochi repeat after me. I call on those present. I call on those present. To witness that I. To witness that I.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Mochi. Mochi. Take DMS. To be my lawfully what it has been. To be my lawfully what it husband. To happen to hold. To have and to hold. From this day forward.
Starting point is 00:27:23 From this day forward. In whatever circumstances. In whatever circumstances. Or experience. Or experience. Life may hold for us. Life may hold for us. Great.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And as much of you have made this declaration of bows concerning one another. Let's get the ring, shall be. And the very important rings. Yes. All right. So let... We need to switch because that one's... All good.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Let DMS place the ring on the third finger of Mochi's left hand. Repeat after me. With this ring. With this ring. As a token and pledge. As a token and pledge. Of the vows and covenant. Of the vows and covenant.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Of my word. Of my word. I call upon those present. I call upon those present. To witness that I. To witness that I. DMS. DMS.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Do take thee. Do take thee. Mochi. Mochi. To be my lawfully weded wife. to be my lawfully wedded wife. All right. Let's do.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Okay. Let Mochi place the ring on the third finger of DMS left end. With this ring. With this ring. As a token and pledge. As a token and pledge. Of the vow and covenant. Of the vow and covenant.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Of my word. I call upon those present. I call upon those present. To witness that I. To witness that I. Mochi. Mochi. Do take thee.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Do take thee. DMS. DMS. To be my lawfully wedded husband. to be my lawfully-wetted husband. I'd like to just look at one another and repeat both of you at the same time. In receiving this ring.
Starting point is 00:29:03 In receiving this ring. I promise and give. I promise and give. To you. To you. The truth. The truth. The unfaithfulness.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And faithfulness. Of my life and marriage. Of my life and marriage. Now for as much as DMS and Mochi have consented in legal wedlock, have declared your solemn intentions from the company before these witnesses, and in my presence, I've exchanged these rings
Starting point is 00:29:27 as a pleasant of your bows and each other. Now upon the authority vested in me by the province, I pronounce you as duly buried. You may kiss your bride. Congratulations. Yeah. We just met, but congratulations. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yes, a surprise, dude. Thank you. Thank you. Good. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Congrats. And to the witnesses. Thank you. You're welcome. We'll get out of your hair. We'll let you resume the show. All right. Congrats you guys.
Starting point is 00:30:12 All right. I'm just squeeze around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're good. Oh, I'm taking my box. For sure. Yeah. Give me that.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Actually, sorry. I can't quote everybody there. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Okay, here, let me get the chair out of the way. All right, Sam, you wait to go. Sorry, and we'll get mad at me. Okay, here, I'll go here. I'll go here.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Sorry, guys. All right, three, one, two. Thank you. Fantastic. All right, congrats. Congratulations. Oh. Well, that's the thing that's never had.
Starting point is 00:31:01 That's the thing that's never happened before. Does that mean we're all invited to the reception? I think that means you're all witnesses. Wow. Just so we're clear. Like, that was very real. Oh, that was 100% real. Yeah, yeah, legally blinding.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah, we both just fully attended a wedding. Yeah, that was a real wedding. And so did Dan, and so did all of you. Yeah, everybody here. Yeah. First on Wancho. That, um... There has got to be a story here.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It was so hard to not laugh the whole time because I looked over at you. I could watch your brain as every step progressed. You'd just be like, really? And then I saw at one point in time, you were like, wait, this is really long for like a bit. And then you're like, wait, does that mean it's real? And then like some step happened, I saw your face just go like, no way. I was watching this like all this computation happened in Linus's head. And that was so entertaining the whole time.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Wow, that's so cool. I'm very, very honored. I wish I had dressed up a little bit, but nobody told me. That was the whole point. Okay. Yeah. I was supposed to have a dress. dress shirt under my jacket. But then I left it buttoned on the hanger. And I, and I only had the
Starting point is 00:32:39 ad spot to try to get it on. So I was like trying to unbutton it the whole time, ran out of the time just through the jacket. So this is my undershirt. All I saw, I saw Sammy come in. I saw Luke start changing his clothes. And I was reading about husband and wife, Caleb and Steph and whatever. And I thought maybe there was like a funny thing that Luke was going to do that involved him being dressed up. Then I saw Dan whip the Zoom for the main camera and I was like okay
Starting point is 00:33:08 what are we doing? I had so many cues to hit in like five seconds. Did you not notice it? Was it you on the boom mic Dan or was someone else back there? That was uh, that was Jordan. That was, sorry, Jordan Block. Yeah. Nice. Solid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Did you not notice anything about me? I mean, I noticed you changing. Oh, you're like wearing fancy shoes even. I have cologne on. Yeah, I would never in a thousand years notice something like that. I thought you would have actually, because I'd never wear it. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No. I thought I was going to give it away the whole time. In the pre-show? You kept looking over here. Yeah. So that was something, but you occasionally do that. Sometimes I do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I didn't think the hair was going to get away. Every once in a while, it happens. Yeah. I didn't think the beard less often, especially not at the same time. That should have been a clue. Sometimes he'll clean up. the beard, sometimes he'll clean up the hair. Very rarely on the same week.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. I was trying to hide. I had like color matched a bunch of things. The jacket was hanging there the whole time. I thought, oh, are they still here? I think they're busy. I have wedding gifts. Yeah, and I didn't get them anything.
Starting point is 00:34:24 What the heck? Get back to minus. Oh man. I can't believe that just happened. I thought this was Chinese New Year That's good That's good Was that the scam?
Starting point is 00:34:42 I don't think so Like was that what people Because when is Chinese New Year It's soon right? I think it was this week Hold on What is Chinese New Year
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh yeah Yeah It was three days ago It's right now Perfect Like it's totally It's totally Chinese New Year Right now
Starting point is 00:35:01 I think Right Blah blah blah Tuesday February 17th 26 and that's the beginning of the year of the firehorse which lasts until february 5th 2027 celebrations including lantern festival typically run for 16 days ending on march 3rd 2026 so i was like yeah this this totally checked out i just didn't understand so this is why
Starting point is 00:35:22 you guys are meming earlier because i was all like so you you said something to sammy about how like yeah didn't you set it up and i was like yo he's korean what the heck Anyway. So does that mean? I actually didn't know that it was Chinese New Year. I just assumed that we just had these. I know the red and white was intentional, but the rest of it, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Well, I thought the red was because it's Chinese New Year. Like, that's the thing. That's the thing. That's probably both, yeah. I think that's very funny. So did Thorham sponsor the wedding? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's cool. Yeah. That's why it's a full takeover. said your business team did a good job. Yeah. Because there's actually been like a bunch people in the loop on this for like a while. What? Taryn knows.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I think probably like the whole business team knows. Not everybody at the company. Yeah. Chewy says this may actually be the most genuine that Linus has been pranked on camera. Every prank on me on camera was genuine. So it's just whether, you know, it came across. in the edit or not is basically what it comes down to. Like when Dennis was living in my house multiple times, I did not know.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I would never fake a prank. That is, that is, that should be a crime. That should, that you should go to YouTube jail for faking a prank. Except it's like most pranks. Yeah, that's not okay. All right. He's still there? I couldn't find him.
Starting point is 00:37:02 All right. If you guys want to do another topic, I'll go have a look. Listen, I will never deny getting teary-eyed at a wedding. It's a very emotional time, and I cannot help but be happy for super cool people starting a life together. That's, it's exciting and it's happy, and anyone who thinks men shouldn't cry at weddings can go f*** themselves. Yeah, I don't know how much we can or should say, but I'm very happy for them. I think it's their story.
Starting point is 00:37:34 We'll let them tell the story in the way that they deem best. Yeah. Once they have figured out, you know, whatever it is that, you know, they're doing for, for right now that is not in the public eye. No, that's not. Stop it. No, no, no. You immediately smiled and looked at me. No, because I realized.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You immediately smiled and looked at me. Because I realized, I just meant whatever they, whatever they, they can talk publicly about their personal lives when they're good and ready. That's what I'm trying to say. Stop it. Yeah, sure, man. That's why they left so fast. They're just really excited to go talk about the rest of their personal lives.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Anyway. Flo, plain exclusive. I mean, it wouldn't violate any rules of the platform. Technically, no. All, they'd have to think about it. They'd have to make it artistic. No, no. Why are we talking?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Because the payment processors. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So that's why, lore for some people, that's why for a long time, adult content creators on Patreon would do cosplay.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That's why that was so popular for a really long time was because it was considered art if they could put it under the cosplay category. Oh, there is. There's, I have things for you. Yeah, I'm gonna come and see you guys.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Okay. Yeah. Congrats, dude. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. Definitely a surprise. Here, let me, yeah, one's right.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Okay, they're off doing stuff over there. While they're doing that, why don't I talk through the Cat Patch hoodie or something? Or what should I do? Did we do the gamers DLSS topic yet? We did not. Did we do anything yet? Just the Xbox one.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Okay, why don't I do like a couple of rapid fire things while they, while they chit-chat? Steam deck is getting pretty hard to get right now. Valve has added a note to the Steam Deck page saying that the handheld will be intermittently available in some regions due to memory and storage shortages. I knew that memory shortages were already having a significant impact on pricing and I knew that storage shortages were coming
Starting point is 00:40:01 but I didn't know how hard the storage shortages were going to hit and how suddenly they were going to hit. Yeah. We're working on a $1,000 build video, and Plouf, ploof did something that made me very upset that, you know, I worked with him and tried to resolve and couldn't resolve. He used a SAT SSD in a build. I think that's the first time we've recommended a SATSSD for any reason that,
Starting point is 00:40:36 in five years maybe because there's no reason why it should be cheaper even because the part that costs more is the NAND flash but just I guess because the demand is a little lower and the stock is lagging the increases in price
Starting point is 00:40:54 or whatever right now SATASDs are anywhere from like 15 to like $35 cheaper than M.S.2. Absolutely see it making sense. And for gaming it doesn't really matter. So our $1,000 build
Starting point is 00:41:10 that's coming soon is going to use a SATA SSD. And to be clear, when I say that it made me upset, I don't mean like ploof made me upset. I mean, he did something. The reality of the situation. Made me upset because we shouldn't be in that position. And yet here we are.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Crazy. Yeah, for a boot drive. Yes, Scrappy DP, for a boot drive. And I looked at the config with him, and I was like, you nailed everything else. And we've got a budget. That's the reality. In a perfect world, would I love to spend another $35 and have an NVME drive?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, but, and I've talked about this before, that's a slippery slope logic that takes your $1,000 computer and makes it $1,200. If you spend another $30 on every single component, you're not adhering to a budget. And when does that stop? And real people have budgets, and that's just the way it is. So we have to act like we have a fixed budget, so that's what we're going to do. It's still not quite $1,000. It's like $1,012 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:07 But a thousand twelve is $1,000. A thousand forty? Yeah, not really. Yeah, it doesn't feel... That's a thousand fifty. That's not... Yeah. That's not a thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if it was over 15, it starts to feel a little weird. Oh, yeah. I think 15 is probably the line. I think you could get away with 15. I think you'd get away with it, but it starts to feel weird. 18. I think 12 is like an automatic, yeah?
Starting point is 00:42:34 When you hit 20, it's like, come on, man. Yeah. Come on. It starts to get rough. Because that's like, that's like a real bill. You know? Like a $20 bill is like, no, no, I'm not going to put that in my pocket. That one goes in my wallet.
Starting point is 00:42:50 You know what I mean? Like $5 bill, like, yeah, that could be in my pocket. I might even put that in with the change drawer. You know, $10 bill, we're getting sketchy. $20? Right in the wallet. No question. No question.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Um, yeah, $20 is lunch, for sure. Is this financial device? No, not financial device. Five goes in the car, 20 goes in the wallet. I mean, yeah, sure, maybe in the 90s. Five does nothing for the car now. No, I think they mean like, oh, I thought like to fill your gas tank. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I read that comment for one, but for two, I think they mean like in the, in the like, you know, I get it in the change pouch. Yeah, yeah, no, I thought, like, I remember. when money was tight, my dad putting five bucks in the gas tank, and I was like, dude, that was in like 1993. Not so much anymore. Yeah, sure, on a motorcycle, chewy, but that's not what we're talking about. Our discussion question for this is, do you think the steam machine and or the frame could be delayed beyond
Starting point is 00:43:56 Valve's current target of the first half of the year? I heard the steam machine was. No, no. So it was supposed to be early in the first half of the year. but they never actually promised anything other than first half of the year. And yeah, I do think that's possible. If they can't even get enough stock to make Steam Deck right now, how are they supposed to launch a new product?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Because you're kind of damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. If you delay it, people are going to be upset because you delayed it. But if you launch it and there's no stock and it's a whole scalping situation where, let's say the launch price is $9.99. And they're going for $2,500 on. on eBay because you know at the beginning they will. Because to someone for whom money is no object, there is nothing exactly like the steam machine.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Tell me something that completely fulfills the function of the steam machine. Go, I'll wait. Not that I'm aware of. You could do it. You could make it yourself. Sure. You're going to go get an IR receiver and you're going to go get some relay system that's going to turn on your TV and your PC and everything all the same.
Starting point is 00:45:04 time you're going to go you're going to make your own uh steam controller with the touch pads with um controller yeah what's uh what was buddy's name we did that collab with recently he i mean he made his own steam controller alike with touch pads he made his own touch pads is the controller tied to the yeah i guess the launch of that probably is mm-hmm are you gonna are you gonna work out a way to remotely power on and power off uh all of the stuff from the controller like there's a bunch of work that Valve did on the integration side of things that is completely separate from just how many FPS does it get? And sure, you could just roll an Xbox or a PlayStation instead, but then you don't have Steam. You don't have, no offense, Microsoft and Sony, but you don't have
Starting point is 00:45:51 good pricing on games. So to me, no, there is absolutely nothing that is what the Steam machine is. It's completely unique in the market. And I think that regardless of the performance, there are people who are not going to be playing the most demanding games that just plain fucking want one and just have more money than cents and are just like, whatever, it doesn't matter. Or I shouldn't even say more money than sense.
Starting point is 00:46:14 They might just have more money than they care about. And they're just like, forget it. I don't care. I will just buy it. I mean, I've bought stuff that's a bad value before. The work that I'm doing on my motorbike is a terrible value. Yeah. I could have bought a brand new motorbike
Starting point is 00:46:28 and instead I'm going to be riding around on a, 2003 with a paint job. That's insane. It is, objectively. It's crazy. Yeah, kind of. But I love the look of it. I have a lot of memories on that bike.
Starting point is 00:46:40 It's my first bike. It's still enough for me. It's 650cc. It's really comfortable. And I did the paint job myself, which I think is super cool. So I'll be like ripping around on my own paint job.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Tommy B. It's Tommy B who did that team control. Super cool. So, sucks. All right. You want to talk about next? Should we do the other big headline topic?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah, let's hit it. Let's do it. Let's do it. You guys might not like to hear this, okay? But I need you for one moment to just, just here. Just grab that and just... A chill pill? Just take it and calm down.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Go ahead. Gamers overwhelm... See, I don't even know... We'll get into it. We'll get into it. But just listen to the title. gamers overwhelmingly prefer DLSS over FSR. In a three-way blind test over six games,
Starting point is 00:47:38 German tech publication computer bases readers overwhelmingly found DLSS 4.5 upscaling to have the best picture quality over FSR or native rendering. And that last one, that's the bombshell. The native rendering is the, ooh. The games used for this test was Anna 117, Ark Raiders, Cyberpunk 2077, Horizon Forbidden West,
Starting point is 00:48:01 Satisfactory and The Last of Us Part 2. Now that is also another huge bombshell. These are not just like Ashes of the Benchmark or like, or even cyberpunk, like games that are just overwhelmingly optimized for because they're the traditional showcase games. And these are showcasing games, beautiful games, pretty much across the board other than maybe satisfactory. But these are real games that people are playing. This is not like contrived. Yeah, and all those real games are ran at 4K resolution with upscaling set to quality. Videos were played to readers in Nvidia's ICAT player showing game clips rendered in DLSS 4.5 FSR and natively side by side.
Starting point is 00:48:48 This is the, it's a video. It is, but if anything to me, that is a disadvantage to DLSS. It could be. Because DLSS, when you're actually using it, remember, we're talking DLSS upscaling, not DLSS frame gen, right? So there's no latency drawback of DLSS upscaling. If anything, the latency will be better because you will be running it more FPS, because you're rendering at a lower resolution, then upscaling it through machine learning. It's just a weird note.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It is. Respondents could indicate whether they preferred. or answer equivalent. So they could be like, ah, they're all the same. DLSS one in every game with an overall result of 48% of votes from a pool of 6,700 and 47.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Native rendering was also preferred over FSR in every game with 24% of the overall vote to FSR is 15. That doesn't... So 15% of people preferred FSR, or 15% of votes. were for FSR, 24% of votes were for
Starting point is 00:50:07 native and 48%. Oh, there it is. 12.8% of the responses were equivalent between the three categories. So just done care. One out of eight gamers was like, eh, whatever. Whatever, dude. Responses weren't ranked. Respondents only voted
Starting point is 00:50:22 on what they thought was the best video. Now, if these were closer, okay, if it was like, you know, 20... Yeah, the 4th. 48 to 24% gap. 25 and 25.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Like, I'm looking at it going like, okay, well, you've obviously got a bunch of normies who literally can't tell the difference, and then a bunch of other normies who literally can't tell that FSR doesn't look as good as native. Right? I'd be ready to be pretty dismissive of it. But the sheer volume of voting
Starting point is 00:50:54 and the overwhelming preference for DLSS is kind of mind-fif. right now. Like, seriously. There is a lot of variables that hold. It was a video that was played, all that kind of stuff. But are you surprised by the results? No.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah, that's the spicy part of this I was waiting for. We can nitpick how the, like, you know, how the thing was done. We can nitpick the science. And I'm sure there's lots to be done there, as there is with everything ever. But I'm not particularly surprised by the result. Have you tried it yet?
Starting point is 00:51:40 No, 4.5? No. No. No. No. It is up and running, but I've not tried 4.5. You're on 4,000 series, right? Yes. Yeah, so you can run it. I think you have a 4080. Yes. Yeah. Okay. You should try it. Like immediately.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Oh. Are you afraid to like it? A little bit. I was too. But not because of like external perceptions. Like it's kind of like the first time that you, you know, try it with it. No. How?
Starting point is 00:52:15 No, I don't think at all. My thing is that I'm worried about. I guess you knew you'd like that. Yeah. My thing that I'm worried about is what this will do to multiple industries. Oh, which industries? That's more what I'm worried about. Hit me.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Hit me. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I mean, the hardware, it's already happened. Like, Nvidia set this course years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Not just when they launched the 20 series. They set this course when they started developing the 20 series. So this was like eight years ago or like nine years ago or something. That's really fast for this level of impact.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It is? Yeah. Eight or nine years for this level of impact is wild. like it's actually very wild you look at almost any other comparative industry however it's also like damn near clairvoyant when it comes to seeing where the winds are blowing
Starting point is 00:53:18 within the tech industry and getting it this right when it was in such early stages of development at that time when the hardware didn't exist when the software tools didn't exist when it hadn't been embraced by game developers. You gotta give them credit. They nailed it, and now everyone else is playing catch up.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Whether you like fake frames, whether you don't like fake frames, AMD and Intel are all in on upscaling and frame gen now. The warden is kind of getting to my point. How are you fellows going to pivot when consumer computing is completely gone in five years? This is kind of what I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:54:01 talking about is like the, and it's not even just the work, right? We can actually do a lot of different things. Oh, yeah. Where's a lot of the revenue coming from these days? That stuff. So like, you know, that's, of course, that's a little bit of it. But I'm worried about the hobby I've had for literally my entire, the memories that I have of my entire life is being interested in this hobby.
Starting point is 00:54:27 From before I was interested in this hobby, I don't remember anything. Like there's there's like it's been forever and then there's what this will continue to do the gaming industry um gaming industry is in a really weird spot right now and I think this doesn't necessarily help so hear me out we've had this conversation before but it always felt kind of like eh sci-fi and maybe someday and blah blah blah blah blah blah and it always seemed kind of easy to dismiss but I feel like it's time to have it again if someone, say Microsoft, built a gaming experience that simply wasn't possible with many clients all over the world
Starting point is 00:55:13 connecting to a central server to exchange game data, if they built a gaming experience that could only run on the big iron and that you remote into and it beams frames to you, like a like I know we've had massively multiplayer worlds right but I'm talking like a massively multiplayer world where it's just it's just not even possible to run it on the client's side anymore could you be convinced in this in this hypothetical you know universe scale game uh where you know everything is physics based and everything's persistent what happened of physics in video games anyways that's a different topic but different topic but but let's say let's say let's say
Starting point is 00:55:57 That by having, like, enormous banks of AI servers and crap, they could model and simulate the world in a way that just wasn't possible to render locally. I mean, the more interesting part to me is the anti-cheating that comes with that. Yeah. Could you be convinced to cloud game to play that? Like, let's say it was, it was a game that had a moment like Arc Raiders is having right now. Would you just be like, let's go? Would you be sad? Like, tell me.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So far, I've resisted. I haven't joined any of the subscription things. I haven't joined. Oh, because you know it'd be a subscription. Yeah, oh, yeah. Because you're running on their hardware at that point. Yeah, it'd like have to be. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So, yeah, I haven't joined Xbox Game Pass or the Ubisoft service or EA's thing or anything like that. Even when it like probably made sense when I'd be like, okay, there's some new shooter coming out. Yep. Maybe it doesn't even have a single player or I don't really care. about the single player for this one. Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And, you know, I know my friends are only going to play for like two weeks. So like, whatever. Really? Every single time, if I'm going to play that game, I've bought it. I have not joined the subscription services. I don't know at a certain point when there is no longer an option, which is the reality you're describing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I don't know necessarily what I do there. I think there's definitely a lot of interesting aspects. The anti-cheat is very interesting. Would you still be able to cheat? Absolutely. but the level of cheating would decrease and at least at the beginning the barrier of entry would increase
Starting point is 00:57:34 like using machine vision to read a screen and literally a robot arm to move a mouse and operate a keyboard oh you can still digitally send inputs there's nothing I just mean that's sort of the that's sort of the ridiculous
Starting point is 00:57:51 lengths to which we could go and people have and people have gone to make something that is completely undetectable by software. But you could say, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because you can still read a screen and then snap to a head.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Exactly. But then like you said, still detectable by things, et cetera. Yeah. So like you will never be able to completely eliminate people who are determined not to play the video games that they pay for. But I think it would make it so that it's not like one per freaking lobby like some
Starting point is 00:58:18 games are right now. Yeah. So like that's, that is kind of exciting. But I, I don't think I'm romanticized. sizing this, I think I'm always going to have a computer. There's like, I spent the, it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:58:38 During the Renno, I spent the longest period of time in my life since I touched a desktop without touching a desktop. Because at work, I had a laptop. Yep. And I would take that laptop home to, I mean, most of the time continue working, but also like if I play games or whatever, anything I did on a computer was on a laptop for a while. Yeah. And then I got my desktop back.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And it like shouldn't matter when you're connecting. it to a dock? Like it does and I don't know why. It just kind of does. They're just not that fast. I don't know like what it is. I daily a laptop right now for work. I don't have a work desktop right now and I haven't for like six months.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And there's just. There's just something about it like I went to be in a big box on a desk and I don't know why. No, they're just, I don't know. They just, Yvonne. That stuff just feel like they work better. Yvonne always would talk to me about this. And I kept telling her it was her imagination because it doesn't make any sense. you'd be like, yeah, no laptops wear out.
Starting point is 00:59:32 They just, like, don't work as good after a while. And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense because... But anecdotally... It's, like, it just kind of seems to happen, whether it's the way that these mobile chips have a tendency to be very bursty in their performance or whatever it is. Like, they just... Ah, man, I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I don't get it. Right now, it's an Elite Book X? Yeah. An Elite Book X G1A. It's a Strix Halo. So it's like a $4,000 laptop. that I would never buy because there's like things about it
Starting point is 01:00:07 that are like broken level of stupid like it has by default the screen ships at 40 hertz I know right you can turn it up to 60 what is it an engineering laptop or something or like what like an engineering sample you mean?
Starting point is 01:00:23 No why would it have a Strix Halo in a 40 hertz screen is it? It's a works It's considered like a workstation Yeah okay because it can be configured with up to 128 gigs of RAM like Strix Halo you know tends to
Starting point is 01:00:33 do. Yeah. I was trying to figure out like what, what, what configuration ever would someone buy that thing in when it's 40 hertz? And then I was like, okay, maybe it's just for CAD or something. And maybe they don't care. I'm not sure. Maybe they do care.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Like, I feel like if I was an engineer, I'd be kind of annoyed that my screen's running at 40 yards. It can do 60. Yeah. But it's like super dim. Like it's not, like you compare this to like a top top end MacBook right now. And you're like, but. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Not good. Not good. But man, that's strict. But yeah, I feel like I'm always going to have a desktop. And if I'm the dude running a desktop off, I can only keep it alive through secondhand hardware because literally no one makes this stuff anymore. I feel like I'm going to be that guy. And does that mean I'm just aging poorly or whatever? Maybe. Maybe when I'm 70 and I'm still keeping my desktop alive, I will be seen as aging poorly. But I don't think I care. I like my spot.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I like having a desktop. I like how it works. And if that's the equivalent of having a Windows 98 machine now, I think that's still fine, because I think having a Windows 98 machine now is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to go away, go away, because you're not going to be the only millennial left in, you know, 30 years from now.
Starting point is 01:01:57 So... I won't be 70, 30 years from now. Well, I will. Right there, buddy. Yeah, like I don't I don't I'm just saying like and I'm giving a theoretical scenario right and there's and there's happens or not and I and I think that especially with how diverse the game development industry is even now and I think we'll become I mean that's something you've talked about a fair bit this this splintering off that's happening right now from the big studios you're going to have a lot of people who in much the same way that game developers are spreading up who are in. nostalgic for the rich single player like pixel art RPG experiences of their youth
Starting point is 01:02:39 or whatever it is, right? And are trying to make that but better and more modern. I think you're going to have people making games that are designed to be played from the client side. There's always the indie space. Yeah, but and and by and always yeah sure always is a huge word
Starting point is 01:02:54 very loaded. Maybe it won't always but in our lifetimes I don't see the desktop completely going away. It might take on a different form. the kind that we use now might not make sense anymore. We're already seeing soldered memory make its way to the desktop, not because it's being crammed down our throats, but because it runs faster.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Like the fact that framework went that route was pretty mind-blowing to me, and the first thing I told them was like, hey, like, this is not that modular. And they're like, look, AMD literally, like, worked with us on. this, you cannot build Strix Halo with memory modules and maintain the performance. And it's not that it needs it for the CPU. It needs it for the GPU. And the GPU is becoming integrated the way they are. In a really weird way?
Starting point is 01:03:48 That happened. We went from that conversation, right, where Intel started talking about, you know, the IGPU on the CPU becoming like very powerful and an important part. And AMD with their fusion way back in the day. the CPU and the GPU becoming integrated and we all went, yeah, but IGPUs are so crap, they're so bad. I feel like it just kind of, everyone was talking about it and it like definitely wasn't going to happen. And then there was a period of kind of quiet and then it just happened. Happened.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Here's a really, how fine is the soldering on sauntered RAM? That's not that bad. Yeah, BGA, BGA RAM can be upgraded. A lot of the time, the issue around both that and nand comes down to like firmware handling the firmware but no one is going to build a motherboard that is designed to have the RAM desoldered and re-soddered onto
Starting point is 01:04:44 it willy-nilly and so because of that you're never going to get friendly firmware even from companies that do have the best intentions and you can make there are boards that allow BGA chips to just be like like bolted onto them but they're for engineering
Starting point is 01:05:00 it's not practical the interface is way too expensive and bulky. Just trying to think, like, is it possible? That's the return of like repair shops, basically. Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. It might not even be upgrading, but it might be replacing, fixing, fixing stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yep. Oh, 100%. Right. The other thing I was going to say is, I think Strix Halo is just the beginning too. Because one of the things that was most exciting to me about Panther Lake was not. And this is why I think our, Panther Lake coverage back at CES was so different from everyone else's because I was
Starting point is 01:05:38 moderately excited to see Intel return to competition in terms of battery life, put out a really good IGPU. Okay, no, I was more than moderately excited for the IGPU. Moderately excited for the performance gains and they moved some caches around and all that kind of stuff that they tend to do as they make a new chip. But what I was really excited about was the modularity of the underlying platform. Like, they've got all of this stuff that they were talking about for years, like Fovaros,
Starting point is 01:06:09 is like working. It's in shipping silicon right now. We can just, like, take out, and they talked about using third-party vendor IP. So the idea, like, holy crap, of getting something like the SOC on the Nintendo Switch, right, with like an enviourable. video, but like an x86 CPU, and then like some custom, you know, AI Tomfoolery over here and whatever they want over there and having like a mega chip on something like a framework desktop, like a really compact desktop form factor. That's, that's exciting. That's cool. And if
Starting point is 01:06:55 they're able to do that, not on a monolithic dye, right, but through packaging, then the yields might actually not suck and the performance benefit of having it all tightly integrated might be worth the cost. Maybe. Here's an interesting comment from
Starting point is 01:07:14 fart muncher 69 420 in floodplain chat. Fartmuncher 69 underscore 420 says, I think enthusiasts will change to running servers inside their house instead of desktops in my opinion, this is a really interesting comment because...
Starting point is 01:07:34 We've talked about that before. First of all, we have. Second of all, in my opinion, if you look at like tech media, what is the only thing that like really feels like it's growing right now? Building like local AI crap. Homebrew. Yeah. Or home lab.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. I don't know why I said homebrew, but yeah, home lab. And doing things like that. And that's a big part of the reason why I think it's growing. But also people are looking at like, Oh, man, like, I've been mulling over this, this, this particular thought in my head for a while now. It's, it's this like, you know, I'm not trying to be a, I'm not trying to be a gray man. I'm not trying to.
Starting point is 01:08:11 A gray man? Is that a thing? Gray man? Yeah, where you like, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you can't, like, you're, you're all tactical, but people can't tell. I'm not trying to do that. I'm not trying to, like, hide from the government, whatever, blah. But there's also like, you know, I don't take a picture of my junk every time I go to the washroom
Starting point is 01:08:32 and send it to you. So why should I share all my private things with Google and everybody else? Right, right. So, like, there's people that are like, all right, there's a certain level of invasion of my privacy that is just like, dang, dude, maybe back off a little bit. So I think people are trying to split off from certain major services, not out of, again, like. Paranoia.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, my God, I need to be ultra-tactical. But it's just like, whoa. Like, this is actually too much. I should probably own a little bit more of my data. I think these two things are happening at the same. time. We did an AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade. I guess we shot it a couple of weeks ago for
Starting point is 01:09:08 Nate, one of our guys at Creator Warehouse. Did I talk about this last week? I don't think so. Okay. So we shot an AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade, and one of the things that he wanted was a NAS, which is like, yeah. Sure. That's a thing that comes up on these AMD
Starting point is 01:09:24 ultimate tech upgrades. But the difference is that Nate doesn't really do any video editing. doesn't really want a Plex server. He doesn't do the stuff that we typically think of people wanting NASS for. And this was really cool and very exciting investment disclosure in Eshtech. But they have gotten to the point where what he was after was quite literally a matter of like, maybe 10 clicks?
Starting point is 01:09:59 to get image set up on his, remember, hexOS is based on TruNAS. So the underlying, the underlying system is TruNAS, ZFS. Good stuff. And he was able to get it set up with their pretty dashboard, get image installed and sinking from his phone in like, I kid you not about 10 minutes. Nice. With no trial and error and no BS.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And that was what he wanted it for. He had a kid recently. And he just doesn't want to upload to a cloud service. Yeah. Because there's a freaking limit. Yeah. Like it's really not, um, it's not edgy. Like, like, you hear these stories.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's, oh man, this is going to make conspiracy theorists like so, I'm not going to say the word for it. But, uh, wet in the panties? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Did I help? But it's not, it's not, uh, why, why are they feeling like that? It's not fear of the unknown, it's knowledge. Did they see someone who's pro-consumer? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Jesus can't help you where we're going, brother. It's not fear of the unknown. It's knowledge of what's happening widely. Right? Like, this is an old story, but you hear about the Tesla stuff where they were like sharing videos from inside of people's cars for fun on their slack. Like, this is happening. We have accepted that even if a company is like morally perfect.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Well, they're going to get hacked anyways. Like, if your data is, is, is just publicly out there, people are going to get it. People you don't want to have it will have it eventually. And it's just like, okay. Realistically, most people probably not that important. Yeah. But, but, but it kind of doesn't matter. Maybe I still don't want someone seeing it.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Maybe that just sucks. Yeah. Maybe that's actually an irrelevant part of this conversation. And maybe we could just not that. Because I know that gets brought up too. And it's just like, dude, whatever. That doesn't mean I want, yeah, I don't know. Just owning your own stuff, I think is shifting from paranoid people and hyper-enthusious
Starting point is 01:12:23 land to normies. This is actually just kind of normal now. Dude, I think that as cool as it was, investing in framework and as many good business decisions as I've made for LMG and mistakes. The investment in Eshtack and the timing for hexOS is going to end up seeming like clairvoyant when they get their product out of pre-release and like, dude, the timing. Like I think they're aiming for... Sorry, I'm going to jump in while you find that.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Dark guy said AI being trained on your junk for AI porn. See, this is part of my problem, though, is like, you hear stuff like that, and it's like, okay, maybe. I think he's probably joking. But I've heard more recently that apparently one of the ways that they prey on women is they look for when you delete a bunch of selfies. Because it shows like a low self-esteem moment. And then they'll target you with ads for like makeup and cosmetic surgeries and stuff like that. Seriously. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:13:30 That is so fucked up. Maybe I'm just going to host my own photos and you can actually just don't actually want you involved with this at all. So there's a certain level where it's like, yeah, you're doing stuff with this information that is just not okay. And like, like that's, you know, self-esteem issues in men and women are a problem. But I think it's pretty well known that like negative emotions and negative thoughts and self-esteem issues like that are much more heavily present. with women and it's just like, I don't know, get out of here. So if I can help solve that by like hosting it myself, yeah, okay, maybe I'm going to do that now because I'm tired of this stuff and I think a lot of other people are tired of this too.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I think Instagram was doing that too. Yeah, I don't necessarily know. So here it is Q1 of 2026. By March 31st, 2026, we will have 1.0 of hexOS, which will include the local UI that people were rightly upset wasn't initially planned for the launch, Q1 of this year. Yeah, and like that's awesome. And if you don't want to go that route, there's tons of other routes as well.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yes, lots of other options. What I love about this one is the philosophy of making difficult and secure and robust, simple. But if you decide you're going down this route regardless, you can go that. route and skip the steps or there's a massive extremely vibrant community around doing it for free as well. Yes. Level 1 forums is really good for it. Yep. There's stuff on, I mean, there's stuff on the line of executives forum. Lots. There's stuff on Reddit everywhere. There's tons of YouTube creators. There's tons of people all over the place that would be more than happy
Starting point is 01:15:21 to help you solve these things. The Discord air age verification thing, people are posting about that as well. Like this is, yeah, this is just another example of like this, this, to me is very clearly uh, within the law, mass data harvesting. And it's, it's just everywhere now and it's just too much.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Just tired of it. I think, uh, I don't have much more to say on top of that. I think, I think having your own NAS is going to go from a thing that weird pirates do to a thing that just is like a normal thing that people should do if they care about the privacy at all.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe I'm being too in our own bubble about this. But I wouldn't be surprised if in a certain amount of time, it's like weird if you don't have some form of your own owned large storage. I mean, it's going to get hard with what was it? What was it? Was it WD who said all of their, hold on. 26, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Hard drive. Yeah. Okay. You know what? Let's jump right into this topic then. Hard drive capacity for Western Digital is sold out for 2026. WD's CEO revealed during a company earnings call that they're pretty much sold out of HDD production capacity for all of this calendar year with firm purchase orders from their top seven customers. WD has also signed long-term agreements, LTAs, with two customers that extend into 2027 and one into 2028.
Starting point is 01:17:01 This demand is driven almost entirely by AI data centers. Cloud revenue now accounts for 89% of WD's total revenue, while consumer revenue has shrunk to just 5%. Let's take a moment and wrap our brains around that. And obviously it doesn't quite work like this. But at the Western Digital Factory, okay, as the drives are rolling along the conveyor and dropping into the bucket at the end of the conveyor.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Those drives, they're all done now. One out of 20 is destined for a consumer. What? 19 out of those 20. So for every hard drive you see in a consumer system shipping today, 19 more are going elsewhere. with 18 of them headed to the data center,
Starting point is 01:18:10 to the cloud. Hard drive prices have already surged nearly 50% in the last five months, according to Tom's hardware, following a similar pattern to RAM and NAND, which are also in shortage because of the current AI buildout. Yeah, I figured this out unintentionally. I was trying to help someone configure a build, and the performance, like, was not,
Starting point is 01:18:37 very important. So I actually recommended the core most important thing was hard drive. So I recommended to get a hard drive. We check the use market because of course. And I was like, oh, everything's really high. I feel like these are just like people expecting too much value. Because like the use market around here is I know what I got. Is not, yeah. The use market around here is not always super vibrant for everything. So it's like, okay, let's let's jump on stores. Because I've seen literally, during Scrapyard Wars, where it's actually cheaper to just buy a new drive sometimes, which is whack. But like, that has happened.
Starting point is 01:19:13 It's a thing. So like, okay, let's just jump on the stores. Then I was like, what is going? Like, why are the hard drives so expensive? And then I started diving into things and I was like, oh, no, it's coming again, isn't it? I found three WD greens, two terabytes each from, just to give you some idea of how old they are. They have archived footage from when we were at the Langley House on them.
Starting point is 01:19:35 They were the old cold store. drives. Yeah. So each of them only has, I think, around a few dozen power on and off cycles and like a couple hundred power on hours. I bet those are worth close today to what they were worth then. Which is so messed up. Completely whack-a-doodle.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Dan, chime up. Say it. Yeah, sure. I didn't want to interrupt. No, but... Yeah, my... My NASS is they're nearing their five-year kind of scary age. No!
Starting point is 01:20:14 And I have five, 15 terabytes in there. Oof. I'm gonna be poor. How much is that gonna run you right now? Oh my God, Luke. Please check. Luke. I'm working on it.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I have a... A W.D. Green is worth 80 bucks for a 2 terabyte. That's nuts. Okay, so no, they're not as bad as they would have been like 12 years ago or whatever. but that's too much to be paying for a two terabyte drive. You said 15 terabytes, Dan? Sea Gate Baracuda is what I have in there right now. Or Excellus, something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Oh, God. They might be the same. Xoses were, like, kind of cheap for a bit. Okay, okay. In fairness, four terabyte drives are around the same price. Here's one from Seagate for 90 bucks. No, he needs 15s. No, no, I know.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Sorry, I'm just talking about those stupid greens. Is this a phase where you would expect to upgrade? Are you looking for 20s? If there's 20s, I didn't do the math recently because power on hours weren't getting too crazy, but like, I got to think about it. I was looking at SSDs and remorgeting my left kidney. Yeah, that's, uh, hmm.
Starting point is 01:21:23 So, yeah, 18s for like a red pro NAS drive is $400. That's probably cheaper than it used to be. I'm seeing, I'm seeing four to $400 depending on the models. Yeah, that sounds. About the same. But I'm also not seeing 15s. The sweet spot seems to be a little higher than 15 right now. Yeah, it's about 20.
Starting point is 01:21:44 The 20 terabyte is 420. Nice. Okay, so I'm fine then. Sick. You're fine. Yeah. Oh, really? You're buying 15.
Starting point is 01:21:52 How many of them? Five. Five of those. I mean, that's still. That's still two grand. And this is US dollars, sir. Oh, okay. That's, because I remember paying about 400 bucks a drive five years ago.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Yeah, sorry. Canadian. I'm seeing, on the Canadian site, I'm seeing, Ironwolf Pro 20 terabytes for 600 bucks. Okay, that's not that far off. He's getting 30% more capacity for about 30% more. It's not better. It's not like it used to be.
Starting point is 01:22:21 It's not like it used to be. The price was always the same. Where the price would always go down per gigabyte. But we talked about this. It keeps coming back to that bloody video I made where I was like YouTube premium should cost more money or whatever. What did I? What was the premise of that? title. But basically I was like, hey, look, you got to understand. Mour's Law is dead. The law of
Starting point is 01:22:42 storage being cheaper is dead. This platform costs more and more and more and more to maintain the more people use it. Something's got to give. Well, it looks like I'm not as homeless as I thought it was going to be, just a little bit. John McGee, 1996 asks, is this going to get worse or is there any indication of balancing out type of situation? Hold on. Just give me one second. You can't see it, but this is just going to polish my... a ball here. I'm going to gaze into it. Consult the orb.
Starting point is 01:23:22 We're going full gaze here. I don't know. I thought you were going to give some whole impassioned speech about trying to tell the future and stuff. I don't know. That was good. And the thing is I, like obviously
Starting point is 01:23:46 I was kicking myself for not just stockpiling a bunch of DRAM. Right? But I've been in this industry for so long. Do you know how many times I've heard, DRAM's going up, it's going up and like what, for a month or two, it'll trend up for a little bit,
Starting point is 01:24:02 maybe for a quarter or two. But it always comes back down because at the end of the day, you know, it's people who, you know, they earn their money, working on all the forecasting for all this crap years in advance that mostly have done a pretty good job
Starting point is 01:24:19 over the years of predicting where demand and supply is going to go and make, making sure that they're striking a balance between maintaining the profitability of their fabs and also not oversupplying or not undersupplying the market making sure that they can supply all their big customers including direct to consumers and i don't think there is a precedent for them fission it up this badly nobody saw this boom coming and there is no quick fix there's no like oh well let's just uh you know i'm trying to think of a game where you were
Starting point is 01:24:53 built, yeah, ano. There's no ano just plopping down a new fab and then you just run a little road to it and now the supply chain is fixed. It just doesn't work like that. So, I don't know because the bubble could pop. And if the bubble pops,
Starting point is 01:25:11 all these purchase orders just be sitting there. They, as far as I can tell, they, like, what are you going to do? Like, what's that, um, what's that famous, saying if you owe the bank a thousand dollars you have a problem if if you if you if you owe the bank if you if you have a loan from the bank for 20 thousand dollars that's a you problem if you have a loan
Starting point is 01:25:34 from the bank for 20 billion dollars that's the bank's problem yeah and so it's not the exact quote but something like something along those lines and in the same way like if if this whole thing just crashes there's literally going to be no one to you know fulfill this one trillion dollar ram order or whatever magic on paper money has been exchanged in advance or whatever commitments have been made. So if anything, there will be a huge crash in the pricing of this stuff and it'll be a free ram for all. But when that will happen, I have no way of knowing.
Starting point is 01:26:16 From my point of view, and I'm just, I'm not a finance guy, right? Like I'm a tech nuts and bolts guy. From my point of view, we should have all figured out that this is not going to result in the kind of revenue generation that would justify the investment that's going into it ages ago. We should already be there. So I'm just sitting here going, well, can I stay solvent longer than the market can stay irrational? The answer is no. Yeah, Dan, check your email. Full point chat's cooking.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Are they finding them deals? I think I might actually just need four, which is kind of nice. Sick. Oh, get shucked. Sounds like a great idea. Mega Kuel asks, hey, question, are tariffs responsible for this consumer hardware shortage at all? Or is it really just because of stupid AI? Just AI.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Tariffs aren't helping. Yeah, but it's a shortage globally. Yes. So like... Tariffs are not helping. No. I can tell you that much. But the shortage is a much more macro problem that is not to do with a tantrum that a particular world leader is having at a particular moment.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Does this affect you guys as a channel? Absolutely. In like so many ways. Constantly. And every day. This hobby has never been more difficult to get into? No, I actually wouldn't say that. That doesn't ring true.
Starting point is 01:27:58 It's never been more frustrating to. participate in. Yes. I'll say that. Yeah. It was definitely a lot more difficult to get into in the much more further past. In the AT days. Yeah. Like where would you find resources to learn to build? And I mean, there was laptops that were $3,000 in like the early 90s and stuff. Yeah, you go way back to like the hobbyist days. Yeah. And I mean...
Starting point is 01:28:20 So never mind. Ignore that part. Even from a pricing standpoint. But it sucks right now. You can still buy a sick game. I mean, I told you we've got that $1,000 gaming PC video coming. You can still buy a sick gaming PC for $1,000. We went to, David and I, this video is coming out really soon. I talked about this one. We went to Costco, and we bought a great computer for like $12.50 US or something like that. Very capable little gaming machine. Am5, like modern platform gaming machine with, what was a 9600, I think it was the, I think it was the XT. 9600 XT.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Perfectly cromulent gaming card. I played some Expedition 33 on it, and I was like, yep, this is a gaming PC. and that's really great it's really amazing that you can get into it like that but it's also really
Starting point is 01:29:06 frustrating that we had it so good for so long and it's been it feels like it's been torn out of our fingers
Starting point is 01:29:15 and the reason the reason is the hard part like if Moore's law was just dead and everyone was doing their earnest best to overcome it
Starting point is 01:29:27 and the answer was fake frames. I think everyone would go, okay, sure. But not everyone, but I, yeah. Not everyone, but I, yeah. Not everyone, but you, I think you get what I mean. Yeah, yeah. But if the reason that this stuff is not affordable, and the reason that we're going the direction that we're going is because, you know, I don't know, fuck you, Sam Altman needs more RAM, then I think that's a lot harder to swallow. It's a lot harder to be passionate about, to get excited about. I also think that, I mean, if,
Starting point is 01:30:02 you know, if companies like WD are having 5% of their revenue be consumer and you see more patterns like what Micron did happening where these, where these traditionally known in the Western market brands, that's how I'll say it, start kind of exiting. I'm not saying Western Digital's exiting, but Micron did for reasons that Western Digital is experiencing. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to see other brands do a similar thing. I think maybe in a really weird way, one of the saviors of the desktop PC market might be China. Oh. Because there is a consumer market. Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. So like if certain brands are just going, well, all the monies in data center, well, that's not true. It's just there's a crazy amount of money in data.
Starting point is 01:31:04 data center. So like, I don't know. Somebody's going to step in. And there's a lot of very hungry Chinese companies trying to get into computer components. So like,
Starting point is 01:31:18 I think it was a hardware unboxed that made a video on one of the Chinese DRAM companies. Uh, but, but, but,
Starting point is 01:31:28 but, but, hardware, unboxed, a CM, our CX rather Hold on CXMT XMT YMTC
Starting point is 01:31:42 I think one of them did a Yeah 32 gig King Bank KFRW DDR 56000 CL36 Soar Blade CXMT review Hardware en boxed And it was like
Starting point is 01:31:58 Fine I guess That could help But I don't think they have a ton of capacity, at least not right now. Not right now. Not right now.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'm not talking about right now. But that's the thing about China is how how long did it take them to build hospitals during COVID? Like days or something. Um, China builds hospital in 10 days. That was nuts. That is nuts. That is nuts. That is nuts. And this is a different type of scaling and a different type of building and all that kind of stuff. But like, if there's opportunity there, somebody's going to chase it. And if the traditional brands are going data center, that doesn't mean consumers are out of the market, right?
Starting point is 01:32:46 Like, it's, we're still here. There's still a big market. We're still hungry. We're interested in things. There's still billions of dollars to be made selling to consumers. And I think consumers are probably less loyal than data center is. If data center uses something and it works. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:33:03 That's where you have all those quotes of like nobody was fired for. buying IBM. Yeah, dude, AMD has been, well, okay, it's not as cut and dried as AMD has been better than Intel in server for years. But they've been a very compelling option compared to Intel for years and years now. And how slowly that market share shifts compared to consumers who seem to be able to are willing to pivot a lot faster. It's less relationship and contract forecasting driven.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It's more like I go and I see what's good. right now. It's like recommended by my enthusiast buddy. I want more FPS, you know, like it's a very different decision-making process. Superwisk says how long until Nvidia just gives up on G-Force. I don't think they will, and my reason for that is largely geopolitical. Really? I think they are much more geopolitical than a lot of the other brands. I think, in my opinion, Invidia is extremely invested in Taiwan's market dominance and wants to hold themselves there. But why do they need gaming for that? Because I think they would take anything they can.
Starting point is 01:34:22 And if they can take data center and gaming and anything else, I think they'll grab it and hold on to it. I think they will continue to make gaming GPUs, but for a different reason. I think that for many years, the gaming R&D fueled the data center products, and now we're seeing that kind of flip around, where the data center R&D on things like machine learning is fueling advancements on the gaming side. But I think it's less about geopolitics, and I think it's less about Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:35:02 on and for me I think it's more about tradition. I think there's at least as long as Nvidia's leadership remains as it is. I think there's a lot of ego and a lot of pride. And I don't necessarily even mean those in really negative ways. I think that G-Force dominates gaming is a point of personal pride. Oh, absolutely. And part of the origin story of invidia such that if this is definitely part if not the majority of it if anyone were to challenge invidia in what has been traditionally for the longest period their stomping ground i think invidia sees the gaming market as essentially their birthright at this point and fuck anyone who tries to take it from them i think they would i think they would cut open their money bags and bleed it rather than lose their
Starting point is 01:35:56 dominant market sharing gaming, quite frankly, because we've seen them do it. When AMD was competitive, they were willing to do anything. Sometimes it wasn't even just to sell more G-Force. It was to just f***g over anyone who tries to dare sell a graphics card. And I don't even necessarily, again, I don't even necessarily mean that in like a negative way. I mean that in a highly competitive way. They've done stuff that I would describe as anti-competitive, but what I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:36:25 right now is the competitive spirit of Nvidia. And sometimes that competitive spirit can lead them to do things that are anti-competitive. But it's not what I'm talking about right now. It also feels like, yeah, I mean, I think this is fair. It feels like they have more of that than a lot of companies. Nvidia feels very raw, raw. Oh yeah. I mean, I think Jensen takes it personally when like he loses market share.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Yeah. Like actually. And that kind of passion is important from a leader. It's probably not a small part of NVIDIA's ongoing success. I mean, point at a company that has executed so consistently for 20 plus years. When was NVIDIA founded? It was like 1996.
Starting point is 01:37:11 People also like notoriously don't quit. And like they have this internal culture of like, uh, reeducation and internal classes that you can take and stuff because they feel. Yeah. It's all very interesting. I don't want to glaze Nvidia too much when they do a lot of things I don't like.
Starting point is 01:37:32 But, yeah. I mean, you can't deny that they're winners. Yeah. Speaking of winners, you can be a winner by learning about checkout messages or comm. Sorry, it took me a second to remember what they're called.
Starting point is 01:37:55 The way to interact with... The mark of a great name. The way to interact with the WAN show is, of course, not through super chats, not through Twitch bits, but through checkout messages. We believe that when you throw money at your screen, you should get something in return. And in our case, it's high-quality merchandise from LTTStore.com. And the product we're launching this week is kind of a funny story. Do you want to bring up the page on the site? This is called the Schrodinger's Cat Patch
Starting point is 01:38:26 hoodie. Shout out to Matthew on the fashion team for coming up with the name because it's kind genius, there may or there may not be an LTX logo under the cat patch. You can't see it, which means it's in a state of superposition until someone does something to test that theory, which we would strongly advise against because it would mean that your cat patch is no longer on your hoodie. If you've been around since the LTX days, you will recognize the tie-dye base of this particular hoodie. This is officially the last of those. finally were done and for anyone newer it's our 100% French terry cotton hoodie soft breathable structured and now featuring this Schrodinger's cat patch on top you can find it live now at
Starting point is 01:39:15 at lmg. gg slash cat patch hoodie so the reason for these is that our first batch of LTCX 23 hoodies had the LTX logo crooked it was aligned to and you know what seriously our printer has done so many perfect prints for us over the years that I don't even I don't even blame him because it was aligned to something but then something about the way the garment fit meant that when you wore it it was like angled it was angled off the relative to the floor and so we had to reprint all of the hoodies for the show like I think it was like three or five days before or something like that I can't remember the exact timeline but we had to reprint the hoodies And then we spent years trying to figure out what the heck to do with those hoodies. No, the logo was not sewn on. It was silk screened. So the cat patch being sewn on is new. It's an upgrade.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Look at this quality cat patch. I think this was Lisa's handiwork. Isn't it adorable? Anyway, it took us until now to figure out what to do with them. So this is your last chance to get the tie-dye hoodie, and it has a cute little cat patch on it. and Luke showed you guys how to find it on the site. And next he's going to show you guys how to send a merch message.
Starting point is 01:40:39 He won't. He won't do that. I'm sorry, he will not do that. Oh, crap. He will show you how to send a comm, a checkout message. Bloody hell. Okay, all you got to do is add anything to your cart. Say, for example, the off-site laptop bag in a small size.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Cool, neat. View cart. And there it is, the checkout message interface. That will go to producer Dan. who will put it up on stream, or he will respond to it, or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Dan, should we show them a couple checkout messages
Starting point is 01:41:17 and show them how it works? Yeah, I've got a couple here. Let's have a look. Hey, DLL, question for Linus. Do you guys have a product list from oldest to newest? Would be useful for my project. We are launching a new version of the site. I believe in Q2.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I think that's the current roadmap. And then once that's done, we're going to be working on a product archive. And once that's done, we're going to be working on a way to allow people to kind of vote maybe once a quarter or a couple times a year
Starting point is 01:41:49 on the top products they'd like to see us bring back. Because I know it's been an ongoing problem with LTT store that we're always moving forward. Never restocking things. that are gone. And I think that's something, that would be a way for us to kind of meet in the middle
Starting point is 01:42:07 because we can't carry every product that we ever made that's not really realistic. But we can bring back some if there's enough demand for them. Luke Nukem. That's a... Is that the whole... The shirt.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Oh! That one's not coming back. No. You should have gotten one when you had the chance. I wear mine actually quite regularly on weekends. So like not every product will be available to vote on then. Uh, oh, I mean, you're super special ones.
Starting point is 01:42:35 It would be there, but that's never going to win. It's not going to get enough of it. Yeah, we did not. We saw the sales numbers. We did not sell many of those. Yeah. Hey, Luke, Linus, and Dan. Hello from Adelaide, Australia.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Uh, what do you think of the new Pokemon fire red, leaf green release for Switch and Switch 2 news that dropped in the last 24ers? Did they seriously not put a space between two different words? Fred. So this is the Colton Edition. And that's just a good joke. And Leaf Green, yeah. I don't know. What are they?
Starting point is 01:43:16 Are they games? Are they the same game again? Pokemon Fire Red version? Capture Wild Pokemon and recapture the nostalgic feel of the Game Boy Advance system. When the Pokemon Fire Red version and Leaf Green version games returned for the first time in over 20 years on the Nintendo Switch. Also playable on Switch 2 just in time for Pokemon Day. There's a lot to unpack here. In these Nintendo Switch versions of the 2004 remakes of the first Pokemon games, red and Pokemon green.
Starting point is 01:43:46 So this is, sorry, sorry, these are, just so I understand. We're halfway to Skyrim right now. For your toaster. These are remakes of remakes. It's a $20 GBA game, and every language is a unique listing on the e-shop. So you really do have to catch them all Emulators win again I guess There's like no way this is not
Starting point is 01:44:10 One of the most easily emulatable games ever Um I don't know man I never done it but I have to imagine it's like Brain dead easy Pokemon Blue Master Race That's all I have to say about that Never cared about red or green
Starting point is 01:44:29 Sorry There's another Pokemon comment here somewhere Green it wasn't wasn't like Like, you're talking about the previous era. Oh, I'm talking about like original Game Boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't green, like, not a North American thing? I thought it was like Japan only or something.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Maybe. All I know is Pokemon Blue. Is that a weird rumor? Is that a only Pokemon game I ever played? And from every conversation that I've had with a Pokemon fan about it, that was right choice. They were like, yep, you had the experience. Yep, good job.
Starting point is 01:44:58 And I played it on a Game Boy color emulator. So I, like, got to see it in color, I think. Or was it? I don't know. It doesn't really matter. You don't even need... My nostalgia glasses say it was in color. Sure.
Starting point is 01:45:14 It might not have been. You're right. Green was Japan only. Yeah, okay. Cool. So for us, it was just... It was just red and blue. And then yellow came out
Starting point is 01:45:22 and that was like weird and... Yeah. Grellwing says real Chad's played yellow. But like, yellow wasn't out yet, so I was just too OG for yellow. That's why I said it was weird. Red and blue were first. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:45:35 I still have my cartridge of blue. Nice. Solid blue homies. Yeah. I've got to follow a Pokemon question for you both. Seriously? I think. Yeah, well, I mean, might as well have two. Everybody seems to be care about Pokemon today. Yeah, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:45:50 Luke, do you like Pokemon? I think you like Pokemon. Yeah. Okay. Hi, Wancho. Question for Luke. What is your favorite Pokemon? Are you looking forward to any potential announcements for the series 30th anniversary? No, I'm not looking forward to any... I know that might suck, but like, I don't tend to like the mainline games anymore. I actually don't even like the game that I play.
Starting point is 01:46:17 I think Pokemon Go is just like objectively a pretty bad game other than the fact that it tends to usually incentivize going outside. And there's so few things that do that on your phone. And I think that is super, super cool. Gameifying going outside is fantastic. you finish this up, I got to go use water gun. Sounds good. But the concepts around how the
Starting point is 01:46:45 PVP works, I think are terrible. I think the rating system is in a lot of ways really bad. I think the max battle system is terrible. I think how they deal with catching, especially things that you technically paid money for in some way, is horrible.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I think their event management is just trash. Like in so many ways, it's a terrible, terrible game that sucks. It's one of the reasons why when people are like, oh, you have to have remote rating because of like people who are immobilized. It's like, okay, I would highly recommend playing anything else because it's a terrible game. I guess I'm supposed to look over here. Sorry. If you're stuck at home, there's like near infinite other things that you could play that are just better.
Starting point is 01:47:33 like ah you don't need to spend money an extra amount of money to be able to play from your couch to be able to play a bad game from your couch um the the only good thing about Pokemon Go is that it gets you outside and then it gets you moving so if you can't do one or either of those things just play a better game I'd highly recommend playing just a definitely better game um that that's my main stance there. The mainline Pokemon games, I bought whatever it's called, Scarlet or something. Oh, man. Because I bought it, I've been kind of like forced myself to play when I play on my switch. It's starting to get better. The beginning was really, really slow and it's starting to get a little bit better, but still, it's like, I don't know. It, uh, it is different. It's an
Starting point is 01:48:28 open world game in a more real way than the original Pokemon was. I don't think they're that great. Hot take, I love Z.A. I haven't played those ones. I haven't played a ton of them. I don't have really great takes on it. But anyways, in terms of announcements, I'm not particularly excited. I think people in the indie scene that are making semi-rip-off things are doing a much better
Starting point is 01:49:00 job with the Pokemon IP than Pokemon is. I think that game, Poca-MMO or whatever that was a long time ago where you could play in your browser and it was like an MMO of Fire Red or something. And you could see all these trainers around on the map. I'm wondering if, if Fliplin chat is going to correct me on the name. But there was a, there was a pixel art game of Pokemon that was an MMO that I believe was in your browser. and it was that was like super cool and really fun and really hype and then Pokemon killed it. Powell World was like a really interesting take on Pokemon that was actually really fun.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Multiplayer in the same world. Wow. How is that not really been a thing? Having your Pokemon be able to like work with you to build things like super cool. I think an actually official one for Pokemon would have been way better and not having the guns and stuff. I think eventually would have legitimately been better. I think Powell World needed to do stuff like that in order to not infringe too much.
Starting point is 01:50:04 So, hooray, that was definitely the right choice. But I would prefer to just play a first party one that was actually well made. But none of them exist. But yeah, people are saying poca-em-mo. So, yeah, apparently that. Let me see if I can find it. Poca-MMO. I wonder if there's still more.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Oh, they have a website still. What the heck? Are they still alive? wild I thought they got like banned off of the everything um but yeah
Starting point is 01:50:37 like these these experiences made by others um have been better so no I'm not particularly interested in about announcements favorite Pokemon cadaver
Starting point is 01:50:51 um my reason for that was I never traded back in the day when I had my my Pokemon blue um I think I like we didn't have a link cave or something, I don't remember, but never really traded.
Starting point is 01:51:05 And I remember above Misty's gym, you cross the bridge, you go to the left, and then you come back down, there's this patch of grass. And if you go up and up and up and up and up, up and down, up and down, up and down, up and my brother told me you could catch an ABRA in there. So I would go do that and I would finally catch an ABRA. And then if you do the old brutal EXP trip, trick where you have to send the ABRA out first and then swap out to something that can tank it and you eventually get a cadabra,
Starting point is 01:51:31 that cadabra will just hard carry you for like the entire game. Cadabra is sick in those old games. I found a lot of the Pokemon that you either needed to trade to evolve or that you had to get in weird ways or some of my favorite ones. Like Garidos, getting that magic harp
Starting point is 01:51:48 from the guy who thinks he's scamming you and then you turn into a magicarp, fantastic Pokemon. Cadabra, Machoke, um, Graveler Why do you keep going for like mid-tier evolutions of these?
Starting point is 01:52:04 I was just explaining because I think we didn't have a link cable or something so we couldn't trade to Those ones required a trade to evolve Oh, is the only way to do it Well, you could get him a champ
Starting point is 01:52:15 No I don't think so Am I wrong? I could I'm pretty sure I thought you had to trade it By the way, weren't you gonna ask me
Starting point is 01:52:23 If it was very effective? Was it very effective? It was very effective Super effective even Very good, very good Um He went Am I wrong?
Starting point is 01:52:32 They were trade only? Trade only. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, I must just remember fighting them or something.
Starting point is 01:52:38 In fairness to me, this was like 25 years ago or something. You would have fought them. I think there's a gym leader that has them or something. Yeah, okay. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:52:47 Machoke, you needed to trade in order to get them a champ. But then it would just give them a champ to the other person. Yeah, you could trade it back. But like, I don't know. Cadabra, in order to get Alecazam, you had to trade.
Starting point is 01:52:58 In order to get Golem, you had to trade a Graveller. Those are the three that I really remember. Yeah, the other really cool one. Oh, yeah, Gengar. That's why Haunter is my favorite one out of that chain. Is because to get Gengar, you had to trade. So I always really liked Haunter. That's why my one laptop was called Haunter and not Gengar.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Because Haunter is my favorite one because I was never able to trade up. And Haunter is also incredibly powerful in those games because Ghost is just like immune to a ton of attacks, which is crazy. It wasn't a particularly balanced game. No, not at all. It was more about selling toys. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:43 But yeah, Cadabra has always been my favorite one. He's my hard carry. Yeah, Sammy's favorite Pokemon is Gengar, which is pretty sick. Solid. It's so common for people to be like, oh, Charzard, or whatever. It's like, okay. Pikachu. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Yeah, Pikachu, EV, whatever. It's like, all right. Okay, hold on. What's your favorite Pokemon? When did the EV obsession show up? Because, like, when I... It's more modern. Is it?
Starting point is 01:54:08 Okay, does EV feature really prominently in, like, modern shows and stuff or something? Or, like... I don't know, but I know they pushed it a lot more. Like, there's a ton more EV evolutions now. Oh, dude. And, like, when I, um, like, I got this, like, Pokemon find and seek, like, book for my kids. Some, I don't know, some relative gave it to us or something. It was all like Evie.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I was like Evie, who cares about Evie? I thought it's all Pikachu and like Charmander and Charzar and whatnot. There's also like communities that kind of form behind different Evies. Tumblr says Crystal. Well, Tumblr, I think, was largely because Sylvion is a lot of people in the trans community because Sylvian has the trans colors have bannered behind Sylvian. Oh. But then like similarly, there's like other Pokemon for reasons.
Starting point is 01:54:57 people like Vaporion. There's other stuff going on. Yeah, but Evie got more popular, like, way later on. Okay. I would need to be reminded. Yeah, original Sprites. Let's go. I need to be reminded of all the original Pokemon before I could pick a favorite.
Starting point is 01:55:15 I also really like Pigeotto, Pigeot. I was about to say I low-key loved my Pigeot. They're actually awesome. Yeah, by late-game Pigeot is actually pretty, pretty solid. I actually kind of loved my radicate. I like that.
Starting point is 01:55:33 I don't like radicate, but I like that you like radicate. I think that's cool. The nittos are pretty sweet. Mm-hmm. Cadabra! Let's go! I was a huge fan of GeoDood.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Did not love this. Catch an early GeoDudes. Yeah, me either. Not really. Didn't care about that. GeoDude is sick. when you first recruit him. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Like, he just will one hit basically anything. Just, he hits so hard. And he'll take so little damage from so many things. Okay, I love horses, so therefore I immediately love Ponita, but I just didn't really need it because by the time you get this, I think you have like a pretty solid. Is that even in blue? I thought we had growlith.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Maybe not. I don't remember which one. Don't remember which one. There's some Pokemon that you have to trade for them. I think you can do, maybe you might fight a trainer or something that has it. You definitely do. There's the gamblers that have them. There's the old guys.
Starting point is 01:56:33 They like their ponidus. Um, why. Man, well, man, there's, there's more than I remember their being.
Starting point is 01:56:40 There's a Rihorn and Choier in, in chat, that's based. That's a, that's a based favorite Pokemon. These fighting guys are pretty cool, but I never really bothered with them. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I just really liked the design for this one. I don't know if, I don't think I ever had one. They're cool. Man, I wish they did more with Dido over the years. And you'd have to be like, you'd have to have a heart of stone to not love to relax.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Yeah, very true. Yeah, you know what, if I had to pick. I really dislike a lot of the modern systems. I've often talked about how a lot of the modern Pokemon systems just make it feel like Digimon. to me.
Starting point is 01:57:35 I don't even know what Digimon is. Go Mega mode EX. I don't like it. But I do think Gigantamax norlax is awesome. The fact that he just still sleeping on the road and just
Starting point is 01:57:52 stuff grew on him. hilarious. But then they do stuff that's like you might actually like this. Gigandamax meowth is just he's just like buildings tall it's all very power rangersy to me i think that was probably my first exposure to like japanese style fighting media
Starting point is 01:58:24 where the fight has three stages every time you fight the putties and then you fight the boss and then you both level up and you fight again and all of the foreplay was completely unnecessary. Yeah, that's totally, yeah. Now there's megas and all this other junk. It gets a little ridiculous. And like, okay, I know anytime you make it compare,
Starting point is 01:58:52 like you look at new Pokemon and you're like, why is there keys, why is a set of keys of Pokemon? And people go, yeah, well, you can look at Gen 1 and there's like some silly garbage as well. Is there, though? Porrigon. What's Poragon? He's, he's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I don't, sorry, what's it called? Porrigan? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't think that's Gen 1. Uh, yeah, yes. How do I spell it? P-O-R-Y-G-O-N. 100% Gen 1.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Oh, this. What is this? This is my point. He's just like, Oh, he's a duck. He's just like, some shapes. No, he's a duck. He's a racist duck.
Starting point is 01:59:35 What are some other silly Gen 1 Pokemon? There aren't really that many. I mean, I think... But my thing is, like, for the most part, it was like, this is a mouse, except it's electric. Hooray! Yeah. I mean, yeah, Machoke is just, like, a jacked guy. He's a jacked, like, kind of...
Starting point is 01:59:55 Well, okay. Mr. Mime is just a creepy guy. Yeah. And, like, the gas one is, like, so that we could have, like, a gaseous thing, obviously. I have no problem with gassily, personally. I thought Didda was kind of like random. Magnamite is just magnets. What's the one that's like...
Starting point is 02:00:18 Magnetone is just a lot of magnets. Yeah. Yeah. But I think like I am very cool with things like Onyx. It's a bunch of rocks in a row. Neat. Geo dude. It's a single rock.
Starting point is 02:00:31 It has arms for some reason. I don't care. Neat. I like stuff like that. I don't like... This is a space demon. like I don't want that I'm just glad we're all passionate about it
Starting point is 02:00:43 yeah I'm glad people have things to be excited about like what is that why is that a Pokemon I think it's a lobster um what are these clothes lobster eagle scorpion
Starting point is 02:01:01 does that does that as a Gen 1 only or does that feel like it belongs in Pokemon no Yeah, exactly. That's my problem with some of the new stuff. And I will always be a Gen 1 onlyer because I'm sorry, but I just cannot be arst to collect them all more than 151 things. So many more. Nope.
Starting point is 02:01:21 How many Pokemon are they total? They just don't exist to me. There's 151 Pokemon. You're welcome. So for the delusional people that think there's more than 151, there's apparently 1,025. That's crazy. It makes no sense. That is crazy. There's 121. 51.
Starting point is 02:01:38 151. No, you know what? Forget it. There's a hundred and twenty-one. We're chopping 30 of them off. Anything I had to trade for, does we count? Oh, man. Okay, how many people did we just bother?
Starting point is 02:01:53 152, Massigno. I like that. Oh, that's no. I like that. No, no, the glitch doesn't count. I like that. Glitch, please. My delusion is that there's 152.
Starting point is 02:02:06 All righty then. What's next? First, Apple... We had a wedding, we fought about Pokemon. First, Apple adopts RCS. Now it tests end-to-end encryption. In the latest iOS 26.4 beta build, Apple explains that it is now rolling out testing
Starting point is 02:02:23 end-to-end encryption in RCS messaging on iPhone. Currently, not shipping on certain devices and carriers, but the big news about this was that it is only testing the RCS encryption between iPhones, not between Android's. They're not saying, that they will never support it on Android, but while other people are super negative about this,
Starting point is 02:02:43 saying, well, isn't the point of RCS end-to-end encryption so that you can have encryption when you're texting with an Android acquaintance, I personally am choosing to believe that this will, this is just the start, and they will roll into end encryption to Android friends at some point, and so that's why I cared to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:03:06 I'm in good, faith, believing that Apple is going to continue to do the right thing and continue to move RCS forward. Oh, speaking of good things that I'm super excite about, Android, finally, after all these years, finally, f***ing did it. Really? Finally. Android, not like Samsung or something?
Starting point is 02:03:35 Apparently. R-slash pixel phones, Android 17, by the way. Whoa. Works for me. Pixel 10 Pro Android 17. If it's in mainline Android, because I don't care about running a pixel, but what I do care about is I want a Sony.
Starting point is 02:03:55 I want an Experia. I expect it won't have it yet. It's probably going to take a little bit. But when that propagates, I am like first in line. I'm going to import an Experia from Japan, and I'm so ready. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 02:04:12 they're so good yes I know Samsung had this for so many years but what if I wanted something other than Samsung One Plus does it I believe nothing supports it there are vendors that support it but Google themselves hasn't supported it and Samsung or excuse me
Starting point is 02:04:32 Samsung and Sony to my knowledge just kind of sticks as close to stock Android as as possible and has not supported it so I am super super excited. I'm on 16 right now and it's not here. So if it's 17, then I'll be getting it soon and I'll let you know and then you can buy one too. Yeah, there was commenters on the Reddit throw that was saying it specifically Android 17. And I still haven't wiped my old one for you to play with Luke. That's
Starting point is 02:05:02 okay. Yovo Azito asks, remind me, which side is the right side linus? You can always tell because the left hand makes an L. So this is the right. But if you meant correct side, the answer is that there is no correct side, which is why we need a choice. Depending on whether you're left or right-handed, depending on whether you prefer the task switching button being closer when you're holding it in your right hand or being closer when you're holding it in your left hand, that is completely personal preference and there should never have been any reason that you should have had to choose. This is good. This is a win for user choice. All right. What else we got?
Starting point is 02:05:47 Uh, let's see here. What is this? You want more good news? Why charge when you can use Y charge? Yeah. Y charge, a company that has been pioneering wireless charging has announced their second batch for their wireless power kit. Huh. So I did a short circuit on this thing a little while ago.
Starting point is 02:06:11 And the difference and the reason I wanted to highlight it again is that it's way cheaper now. It was like a commercial only solution not that long ago, and now they have support for the Schlage Encode, which is, from my understanding, a much more popular smart lock. So you just take out the battery cover, put on the receiver module, boom, you never ever charge your smart lock again. You don't put a battery in. You don't like have it just randomly die at an inopportune time and you have to use a key. It just has power forever. I've been using my like commercial one with the Alfred Smart Lock at my house. It just is always charged and will always be charged forever.
Starting point is 02:06:55 It's super cool. We first covered these guys at Computex like 10 years ago and it took them five ever to whether it was funding or partnerships or development to get this technology rolling and it's finally happening. So they just seem like cool people who are finally catching a break. and I just wanted to highlight that. Good stuff. Oh, this one's less fun. The registry from Save the Life, a pet microchip company,
Starting point is 02:07:30 became inaccessible when the company went out of business in January 2024. For those unfamiliar, pet microchips are simple RFID chips that produce a unique string of numbers when scanned. Databases like Save the Life link that identifier to pet information that vets can access.
Starting point is 02:07:48 There was apparently, very little notice of the shutdown leaving many pets unknowingly unidentifiable to vets and shelters. Cincinnati Animal Care says it's found 65 dogs with useless chips only about half of their owners
Starting point is 02:08:03 were found. Pets registered to save the life should re-register their chips number with another microchip company which is usually free. This whole thing raised a whole bunch of questions for me, namely what was the fucking point of putting a microchip in my
Starting point is 02:08:19 pets. I've microchipped every one of my pets that I've ever had thinking that like the idea was that they scanned it and the information was just there, readable in plain text, which I don't actually mind if somebody has my cat because I want it back. I thought it was too. So this was insane to me. I kind of understand like the privacy potentially of like an animal is roadkill and you go and you scan the microchip and what you get you get a girl's phone number that way like come on man like i i if if it's a if it's an alternative to a collar or a tattoo probably plain text would have been fine what was the point of this yikes so frustrating i hate that on like multiple levels like i i had i had hope you know that when i when the bengel cats escape
Starting point is 02:09:17 that someone would find them and they would eventually, even if someone stole them, they would eventually make their way to a vet, eventually get scanned, and I would eventually be contacted. But this whole ecosystem is just more stupid and fragmented than I could have realized.
Starting point is 02:09:34 I guess I could have looked it up. I could have found this out. But, I mean, nowadays, we tattoo and microchip are animals and we don't let them outside under any circumstances, so it hasn't been as much of a problem. The Bengals were all. also just escape artists.
Starting point is 02:09:49 They just really wanted to get out. Rumble was able to jump up and hang off of the door handle to open the door. Just like, really? And when we had little kids and we had people like coming in and out and then yeah, anyway,
Starting point is 02:10:01 that's history at this point. And it's a lot easier now. All of our cats that we have right now started their lives outdoors. And they are like, don't want to be. Soaked to be inside. None of them try to get out.
Starting point is 02:10:17 We accidentally, one of the kids left the door open for half an hour, like a few weekends ago. And we were like, ah, panic, cat check, everyone find all the cats. No one went anywhere near it. Especially the boys, Brownie and Noodle, are, like, they lived outside until they were, like, old enough that I was worried that they would be difficult to socialize. And didn't the vet even have a concern about that? I thought there was something. No, our vet was pretty chill about it. No, that was that was to do with whether they had feline HIV.
Starting point is 02:10:56 We had to, I knew there was some concern. Yeah, we had to isolate them from the other cats for quite a while before we could be sure that they didn't have like a dormant infection that could get the other cats or whatever. Got it. But, but yeah, they were outdoor cats for quite a while and we caught them with like a live trap. and brought them in and tried to socialize them. I shouldn't say tried. Socialized.
Starting point is 02:11:21 With brownie especially, very much socialized. Noodle is still a little bit skitterish. He was, you know, he was a wild thing at some point. And those guys especially are just like, nope. They hunted. They hunted for their food when they were just little boys. And they are not into it. Did they go particularly away from it?
Starting point is 02:11:45 from the door yeah no but they they do they're like not interested yeah yeah i meant when it was left open whereas like some of the the other ones the the the two newer ones they were just like little they were born in like a shed
Starting point is 02:12:01 so they've never really been they've never really had to hunt for anything because the family found them and fed them and took care of them and everything um so they'll like they'll like and haven't been hunted they'll sniff they'll sniff the outside and they'll be like kind of interested in it or had the concern of being hunted. No, they've never had to deal with that.
Starting point is 02:12:21 Corey is the name in full-page chat said, My cat is terrified of the concept of an outside existing. Nice. It's a lot easier to take care of them that way. Hey, do you want to talk about Zillow? Yeah. Yeah. Zillow launches a wow-themed microsite as a marketing,
Starting point is 02:12:38 okay, as a marketing stunt. I saw this in my Google News and went, hmm, and then kept scrolling because I was like, there's no way that's actually real. The experience coincides with Wow introducing player housing for the first time tied to the upcoming midnight expansion. The microsite features both player-created homes and Blizzard-built homes, some with 3D tours.
Starting point is 02:13:01 In a move that can only be described as savagely realistic, you can't interface with this. You can't actually buy the houses, but users can hilariously claim a free in-game Zillow-inspired door mat. The listings are written in character with fictional Zillow real estate agents. Given the current affordability and housing crisis, does this seem tone deaf on the part of Zillow and Blizzard? Is it just fun? It's definitely just fun. I mean, I don't care about it at all, but I'm sure it's fun for someone. But I don't think they're being tone deaf, dude. People are
Starting point is 02:13:48 buying houses. It's just not most people. And like, no, I don't think they're just going to give you an entire house in the game for free. So a doormat is a collectible item that's still neat as a free thing, part of it just a fun, random promotional campaign.
Starting point is 02:14:08 I think, I think just don't think about it too much. Okay, the site's responsive again for me now. Oh, dang it. Stopped working again. What the heck? okay well whatever that's kind of what it looks like good enough this heights working fine for me that's weird oh here I'll go to Luke's laptop
Starting point is 02:14:29 sure there you go rugged rustic these are actually like resor wind shores it's funny because the the photos and the videos that I'm seeing for these are actually a lot better than most of the photos and videos that I see from realtors of actual homes so that's kind of funny and kind of sad where's the HDR yeah really um bektar don't Hamar that's actually awesome uh wow it even wow this is so much
Starting point is 02:14:59 there's a floor plan this we are destroying most realtor posted homes oh my goodness anything that lacks a floor plan is so annoying to me all right meet the owner that's not very normal neat fun
Starting point is 02:15:17 oh speaking of neat and fun we should talk about what's neat and fun we should talk about what's neat and fun on flow plane Yes FB announcement Please read all the way through Before going off topic What?
Starting point is 02:15:32 What? I don't think we Let's specifically go on off topic now What? That's not That wasn't the problem last time The problem last time Was that they put
Starting point is 02:15:40 Information that you needed At the beginning at the end Yeah This week's theme is How many resources Can Sammy steal from the company Before being fired? Hmm
Starting point is 02:15:51 We got a deep look inside what a week at LMG looks like with some LTT leaks sorry not sorry Sammy vlogged his entire week showcasing things like how production shoots are scheduled, the behind the scenes on set our camera setups
Starting point is 02:16:07 merging our videos which is what we call it when we like do packaging so title thumbnail that kind of thing it also includes a ton of insider info including leaking an entire month of LTT content in the first minute
Starting point is 02:16:22 okay so that's this video oh wow people are loving this video all right well I'm glad that it was for something we also have a refreshed meet the team with Mr. David Pancratz the technical production assistant
Starting point is 02:16:44 Sammy made Pancratz fix his PC in this video because if it's for content you're allowed to make not IT fix your things okay that's good to know as well I think he means his personal computer what? Sammy
Starting point is 02:17:04 I think that's what he means yeah that is not a workstation that we provide to our employees it doesn't look like he just fixed it it looks like he upgraded it oh yeah that's the case that's from inventory right okay where are the lines here? Oh I see it's signed out to lost
Starting point is 02:17:28 we also took in viewer questions which we're looking for more questions featuring our new writer Sean Frey we took in viewer questions which we're looking for more I have no idea what he's talking about and we're looking for more sure finally we also have an early LTT video
Starting point is 02:17:50 that went up a few days ago showcasing the fluke I-I-915 and you would have known this if you were a float plane subscriber keep an eye out for more early release like this one which will release right now. Oh! Oh, we're releasing the Costco video! Oh, that's not David's best on nail fit.
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Starting point is 02:18:30 to fill your weekend with fun content also we'll have a behind the scenes of DMS's wedding sometime next week seriously? All right Sammy is like the embodiment of anything for the content seriously
Starting point is 02:18:45 good stuff want to pick a topic do we talk about DLSS again there's two DLSS topics it sounds similar DLSS is too good now YouTube two, we've talked about this guy before.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Two clicks, Philip, yeah. Two clicks Philip posted a video seeing how far they could push DLSS while still having a, oh, I've seen this for sure. A quick recap for those who don't know, DLSS really, we're going into that. DLSS or deep learning super sampling
Starting point is 02:19:17 is NVIDIA's, okay, yeah, Nvidia's image generation algorithm that allows gamers to render their games at lower resolutions, which are then upscaled to a more playable resolution while we're maintaining high frame rates. The YouTuber tested Kingdom Come deliverance 2 at 20% render for 4K, meaning 764 by 430,
Starting point is 02:19:39 all the way down to 1% scale or 38 by 22. Just 38 by 22. Pixels. That's it. And it's impressive how well DLSS works now. And we have maybe a short thing, but you should go watch the video. This is mind blowing. The fact that that you can kind of, you could totally play that is nuts.
Starting point is 02:20:06 You could. Not well. No. But you could. Here is 136 by 76. So this is what, like 3% or something? Or no, because it's probably not linear because that's actually a much larger. It's like 3% in each dimension.
Starting point is 02:20:23 But you guys should definitely check out this video. It's got like half a million views because it's awesome. Here, hold on. When did this come out? Because I feel like I saw this a bit ago. Yeah, here you go. So this is, this is showing the difference between...
Starting point is 02:20:36 Yeah, this is three weeks old. Yeah. So this is original versus the upscaled one. It's genuinely pretty fascinating. How it can take that and turn it into that, this, and turn it into this, genuinely incredible. Like there's a lot going on over here
Starting point is 02:21:03 where I would have a hard time telling if this is a, like my human eyes, if this is a path leading off this way or if it's a shadow of this tree or like what the crap this is supposed to be. How it managed to resolve any additional detail in the grass over here, mind blowing. The way it kind of reconstructed the shadows
Starting point is 02:21:26 and the lighting and the bark here based on this, again, mind-blowing. Pretty impressive. That was it. Just wanted to highlight that. Go watch Two Clicks, Phillips. A super cool video. I knew I was like, man, I thought this was from a bit ago.
Starting point is 02:21:41 But yeah, three weeks ago. Yep. I watched that a while ago. Yeah, we never kind of talked about it. So guys, go, go check it out. Really, really, really cool. No key just threw the link in the chat. So did Dan.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Nice. Bookmark that for later, because you're not done watching the Lenshow. I wouldn't have thought to put that in the chat. dock, but that was awesome. There's been a new world record set for the tiniest QR code. This source, this time is Tom's hardware. This is kind of incredible. You want to do the story?
Starting point is 02:22:10 Sure. With a pixel size of 49 nanometers, the smaller than a bacteria QR codes were created as a collaboration between Vienna University of Technology and Data Storage Company Sarabi. Serabi? Serabi. Sure. The codes are less than half the same.
Starting point is 02:22:27 size of the previous record and require an electron microscope to read. The achievement will enable greater densities in cerebytes. Yeah, serabyte makes more sense. I've heard of cerebite before. Cerebites ceramic storage, which they claim could enable very long-term storage with capacities up to 100 petabytes by 2030. And no, I actually didn't dyslexia of that. There's just a typo.
Starting point is 02:22:53 Discussion question. How much storage do you really need at home, you know, for all those Linux isos. Well, there's been a lot of very musically focused Linux distros recently.
Starting point is 02:23:09 How big is that even though? Not 100 petabytes. Yeah, like the Spotify rip was I thought it was like... About a petabyte. Yeah. A hundred petabytes. I mean, recalling this data
Starting point is 02:23:23 is extremely challenging. This is meant for like, my understanding is like a very long-term resilient storage, like mass amounts of storage. And for that, we need a lot, but only if we care to preserve everything that's being created right now, but so much of it is slop that I kind of... So much of it, I don't, I don't want. Wonder if we don't really need to archive it. Oh, really? I thought it was a petabyte. 300 terabytes.
Starting point is 02:23:55 That sounds right to me. I had in my brain 30 terabytes. And then I was like, yeah, it can't be enough, but I thought there was a three in it. Anyway, I thought this was cool. That's all. No notes for this one. Well, they put a few notes. Unreal Engine Tournament, Unreal Tournament 2004. Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Who's responsible for calling it Unreal Engine Tournament? You know what? It doesn't matter. We're not going to name and shame. The point is it was not called that. It was called Unreal Tournament. Unreal Tournament 2004 is now available for free. Thanks to community collaboration.
Starting point is 02:24:39 UT 2004, one of the greatest shooters of all time, just received its first public patch in over 20 years. This was made possible by Old Unreal, a community support project dedicated to keeping early Epic titles alive. This patch includes support for Windows, Linux, and MacOS, along with various quality of life updates. Epic has given permission for them to host the original files, so they have an easy-to-use installer available.
Starting point is 02:25:02 super cool shout out epic love to see it that's all i have to say about that yeah i found just for people wondering it's definitely 300 terabytes i found some very early articles that seem to just be kind of making up part of the story that said a petabyte but it was confirmed for sure a lot of times that is 300 terabytes all right meta wants to oh yeah oh me meta wants to make your grandma immortal. A patent, granted late in December, outlines the use of an LLM to simulate a person's social media activity when the user takes a long break or is deceased. The document states that the impact on the users is much more severe and permanent if that user is deceased and can never return to the platform. No, shit. Your new AI Nana could like, comment, and respond to DMs from
Starting point is 02:26:03 beyond the grave, potentially even joining audio and video calls. Meta says that technology would be great for influencers who want to take a break from social media without giving up income. Get rid of it, Dan. Thank you. One of the crazy things is I saw this in my Google news feed probably 10 minutes after seeing somebody on Facebook. So I was jump on Facebook, go to Marketplace.
Starting point is 02:26:32 There's also somebody on Facebook who's definitely passed away. that you know, worked here. And that was like, you know, a sad moment to see them. I'm pretty happy that I didn't have a new message from them. I have some relatives that are getting pretty close to the end. And the last thing that I want is fake real conversations with them. I'm instead taking time now.
Starting point is 02:27:11 to talk to them well I still can and that's what we should do if possible and if it's not possible this is not the answer cool hey but in other news the Netherlands Defense Secretary
Starting point is 02:27:29 said on a podcast that the F-35 like the warplane can be jailbroken just like an iPhone implying that European forces could maintain the aircraft software without US and Lockheed Martin's support.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Currently, the F-35 software is managed through Lockheed Martin's Autonomic Logistics Information System, which pushes updates to the fleet every year or two. European countries own the physical planes, but the U.S. controls the software and update pipeline. Israel is currently the only country that is negotiated to deal with Lockheed Martin, allowing it to run its own software on the F-35 fleet. The comments came amid broader European fears that the U.S. could remotely disable F-35, fleets. Oh boy.
Starting point is 02:28:15 I'm going to picture this. Joachim Schradzhofer, head of comms at German defense contractor, Hensselt, previously said the idea of a remote kill switch was more than just a rumor. I got to say, the main reason that I flagged this for the WAN show was that while I realized that this was a problem on a telephone, and I realized that it was a problem on a tractor. I did not realize that this was a problem on a military jet. Oh, yeah. For how much you pay for them, you've got to be fucking kidding me that you can't just...
Starting point is 02:28:54 Oh, I thought you meant the remote kill switch. Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah, that part, yeah. That's insane. Yeah. How did we all, like even at that level, except that this is okay? Can you make an F-35? No.
Starting point is 02:29:10 That's why. There are alternatives. There's not a ton and they would all have probably a similar problem. That's insane. Yeah. I mean, yes and no. I bet if everyone got together and boycott basically just said, no, we will literally not buy any if you don't deal with this. How long do you think Lockheed would hold out?
Starting point is 02:29:28 I feel like they'd just try to hide it. Ugh. I mean, that's a very military thing to do. In other German news, Acer and Aesus have been blocked from selling PCs in Germany. They could also just say, no, have fun being not superior. Right. Another angle they could take. A German court has granted Nokia an injunction against the two firms selling desktops and laptops.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Stock that's already in the country can still be sold. Nokia claims Acer Asus and TV maker Highsense are infringing on three patents related to the high efficiency video codec, HVC, aka H265. Hysense decided to enter a licensing agreement with Nokia in January, but Acer and Asus continue to fight the allegations in court. HVC is considered a standard essential patent due to its widespread use, which means special rules apply to ensure the technology is broadly available, while the patent holder is still fairly compensated. And that's it. That's why HVC never really took off because of stuff like this, which blows.
Starting point is 02:30:34 In other news, Google suddenly cares about IP theft. This is hilarious. Yeah. Where are we at? Where is that one? Top. Yeah, I think we've kind of talked about this one before. I don't know how all this is, but Google is accusing commercially motivated actors of trying to clone the proprietary logic behind Gemini AI.
Starting point is 02:30:59 In other news, the entire world is accusing Google of slurping up proprietary. Yeah, yeah. Google says distillation attacks have agents querying Gemini up to 100,000 times to try to extract the underlying model. That's hilarious. This is also a thing that has been happening for a long time and has happened to other people as well. Most notably Open AI.
Starting point is 02:31:22 Model distillation, ah, hey, hey, okay. Model distillation tax aren't a new thing. In early 2025, OpenAI suggested that Chinese startup DeepSeek had distilled OpenAI's models to create their own cheaper, more efficient model, which as far as my understanding goes, is like effectively confirmed. but I don't actually know that. Where's the Bib, Bib, Bip, Bip. Nice.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Yeah, where's the line? How much does your company need to be worth to ignore the law? I just think this is hilarious because IP theft matters immediately when it's their IP theft. And it doesn't matter that what underpins it was mass theft on a scale that I don't think the world has ever seen before. Yeah. Yeah, crazy. Last topic. Harmful chemicals may be in your headphones.
Starting point is 02:32:15 An EU environmental advocacy group called Talks Free Life for All released a study that tested 81 pairs of headphones and supposedly found hazardous substances in all of them. Do you be careful? The substances included known endocrine disruptors, which led to some highly sensationalized pieces suggesting that speakers would be better for your health compared to headphones if you are trying to avoid. cancer. The study actually does seem to have some validity to it, but it mainly aimed to address companies that circumvent regulations with equally bad alternatives since these chemicals are handled on a substance-by-substance basis.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Not to mention that these chemicals are only an issue from cumulative long-term exposure across many kinds of plastics. Products like Apple AirPods Pro 2s and Sony W.H. 1000XM-5s were rated safe. The real problems were knockoffs from marketplaces like Temu. That's not surprising, but it's also like, dang, the ones that are safe are really expensive. Also, Riley sent me another kind of summary of this that I had sort of expected to be in the summary that was in the Wancho Dock. But basically, he was kind of saying that a lot of this is sort of extrapolating what made.
Starting point is 02:33:39 be a concern. So commenters have connected the headlines of that they might be using alternative chemicals that are less regulated and that some of these chemicals still need to be like studied and turned it into, connected these dots and gone like, oh no, all headphones are poisonous. And then meanwhile, the other side has gone completely other side of the pendulum swing and gone, that's such an overreaction that it must be completely safe and there is no problem. But as usual, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Dan, I think it's time for after dark.
Starting point is 02:34:17 I've got one more. Chat really wants me to talk about this one, or us, really. We've really kind of two more, I guess. YouTube went down. People wanted our comments on this. Oh, that's bad. I think we're both like, dang. Whoops.
Starting point is 02:34:31 They should not do that. Yeah. For me, it was really interesting for some people to see how compartmentalize certain systems are because people were like, oh, like with direct links, I can still play videos, but like the home page is down and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yeah, these systems are really fascinating. But anyways, moving on from that. There's also this.
Starting point is 02:34:54 We talked about a little bit in the pre-show. Hackers exposed Discord age verification system issue after persona front-end code was left for wide open. We don't have topic notes on this, but this is, I think what I said in the pre-show was like, whoever did this, I want to shake your hand. Um, great work. Congratulations. You made your point.
Starting point is 02:35:14 And that's such a good point to make. And such important timing that you nailed it so fast. This is why this is a problem. Way to go. Thank you. Um, but. Yeah. This just goes to show that we need them to not collect data like this because it's just
Starting point is 02:35:36 going to go out there. Um, yeah. And again, just like we were talking last week, try some alternatives. Have a fun random day with your friends where you're like, let's play three different games
Starting point is 02:35:50 and each time let's try a different voice chat service just for fun. And see how it goes. And even if you end up having both or something like that, at least start legitimizing alternatives. One of the biggest issues when you have markets like the voice chat market
Starting point is 02:36:09 is there is only one thing that matters right now. And that sucks. and if we can even make it so that there's two that is such a massive gain. If we start legitimizing and make it normalize that there's other ones that people use, then Discord's Market Show will fall quickly. And that's a good idea. The whole 3D printed guns thing is continuing to evolve. California bill would restrict 3D printer sales to state-approved models to prevent printing gun parts,
Starting point is 02:36:37 joins Washington and New York on legal offensive. Yeah, that's not going to work. So first of all, it won't work. Second of all, rough. Because now there's, now there's all this insider collusion of companies bribing people to be on the approved list. And there's already an incredible amount of corruption in every single government everywhere. So that's definitely going to happen.
Starting point is 02:36:57 I don't even calling out America. That's just the world. If this was in Canada, the same thing would be a problem. Especially BC. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. After dark?
Starting point is 02:37:16 Yes. After dark. Button. Button. Button. There we go. All right. Up first.
Starting point is 02:37:27 Hey, LLD and Future Me. Always watch Vod on Saturday mornings. What's the scariest thing about starting your own business? And how did you deal with that fear? The scariest thing is not having money to eat and to pay the people who work for you and your mortgage and how did you deal with that fear? Work harder so that that doesn't happen. I mean, it's just, it's a tale as old as time, right?
Starting point is 02:38:01 There are advantages to entrepreneurship and there are advantages to employment, hitching your cart to a horse that has been walking, for a long time and seems to have a lot of road out ahead of it offers security while entrepreneurship can offer incredible opportunity. But I forget what percentage of businesses that fail in the first five years. But it's a lot. So it's not a guarantee. And it's not right for everyone, but it was right for me. And I'm glad it worked out the way that it did. Oh, I accidentally just archived the site. No, I didn't. Nope. That was me. Nice. Hi, Linus and Luke. My grade school kids love gaming and learning about PC parts thanks to Astrobot.
Starting point is 02:38:48 But Windows feels complex versus consoles slash tablitch slash Chromebooks. Any tips for teaching them a quote unquote real operating system? You said they love learning, just maybe try to make it fun. Yeah, and I mean, realistically, I was kind of blown away by some of the stuff that my son was doing so that he could mod Minecraft and stuff. They just have to have to have a reason to learn it. Otherwise, they're not going to bother. Windows is not that complicated these days
Starting point is 02:39:21 if you are sufficiently motivated to do it. And kids' brains are so malleable. I was see... Do you see that kid that, like, destroyed the sub-three-second solve on a 3-3 Rubik's Cube recently? Kids, like, seven or something? I don't know how old he is. Seven-year-olds with chess
Starting point is 02:39:40 or Rubik's cubes are terrifying. Yeah, hold on. What's this kid's name? Teodor Zadjadjadir, 2.76 seconds. 2.76 seconds. That's absurd. Seven years ago, this was a question.
Starting point is 02:40:02 Will there ever be a sub three? Sub three, I could see as the very edge of possibility with an absurd solve. Well, 2.76. Like, obliterated. Abliterated the record. That's a, yeah, when you're getting down into that such a small amount of total time, that's an insane amount of time to chop off.
Starting point is 02:40:30 Blah, blah, blah, blah. This isn't it. Yeah, there we go. It would have to be, like, at an event. So it gets 15 seconds to look at it. Is that wild or wild? Like... Wow.
Starting point is 02:40:59 I'm not a moron. But... It'll never do that. I will never do that. No matter how hard I tried, no matter how long I worked at it. Doesn't matter. Yep. I saw a video age ago, which was like a six-sided CNC machine attached to a Rubik's cube,
Starting point is 02:41:15 and it did it in like one second. It's like twice as fast as a computer-controlled robot. Mind-blowing. Catalyst says I can solve in five minutes. Yeah, exactly. Scrappy DP, you'll also never kickflip. 100%. So give your kids credit. Don't baby them.
Starting point is 02:41:36 They can figure it out. They just have to be sufficiently motivated. My project. It's like people say learn programming by making a calculator. No, find a problem. Do something more interesting. Yeah. My gang, thinking about...
Starting point is 02:41:50 Automate something around your house. Yeah. Thinking about age verification, who do you think would be able to reliably figure out and implement safe age verification. Maybe Steam, maybe a DEFCon. Well, that's the whole point, is that you can't. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 02:42:07 And we need to stop, like, chasing this weird dragon. The only solution is for someone who already is tracking all of this, like the government, except I don't trust them to keep it safe. No. No. Well, that's what I'm saying, though. No, I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying no.
Starting point is 02:42:30 Except I don't trust them to keep it safe any more than I would, even less, I'd say, than I would trust a corporate entity. So since we can't do it safely, we need to just not do it. It's like asking, like... And what's it all for? Like, who could figure out
Starting point is 02:42:47 how to reliably make it so that I can enjoy my crystal meth? How about we just don't, crystal meth? Yeah. It's, the thing is, like, it's going to be circumvented anyways obviously okay this is pretty funny Mick Bain says Leisure Suit Larry
Starting point is 02:43:09 solved that 35 years ago do you know what the age check was for Leisure Suit Larry just asked you questions that only older people would know the answer to it wouldn't work in the age of Google and like chat GPT or whatever but here here here here here here um maybe you have to like
Starting point is 02:43:26 control plain and simple yeah I mean we've been control and data collection but my thing is like if you try to think of it positively what is what is the gain and the gain effectively doesn't exist because it's so it's so la la land it's like okay we can keep
Starting point is 02:43:46 the kids from doing these bad things like yeah if they care they're going to go around it like it's you have let's play a game tiptoe through the tulips was required reported by. It plays a ukulele,
Starting point is 02:44:05 uh, very tall, very high voice. I wouldn't be able to play this game. I'm looking at some of the questions. I would not be able to play this game. I mean, you would know probably this one.
Starting point is 02:44:17 Yeah. A kid probably wouldn't care at that time. Do you know what a neighbor jacket is? No. No. Where's the beef? Where's the beef? Okay. I wouldn't have got that.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Tiny Tim. Damn. I'm upset. about myself. Does a pair of queens beat three deuses? I don't think so. Three,
Starting point is 02:44:44 twos? Yeah. I assume this is poker? Yes. Oh, in Blackjack. Yes, in Blackjack. Good gravy. Three pair above two pair.
Starting point is 02:44:56 I only know Belasrop. This is multiple choice. Oh, you just have to type them in. This is my banana. still there or not. Have I upgraded my... My card.
Starting point is 02:45:10 Which is non-alcoholic, C. Perrier. Like, this was their solution to age verification, which is pretty based, actually. That's so cool. That's so smart. The result of Watergate was, you know,
Starting point is 02:45:24 back when scandals actually had consequences. Oh yeah, any kid these days would just say nothing. Sorry, there was all too real. We paid them. more money for some reason. All right, dad,
Starting point is 02:45:42 moving on. Hi, DLL. The result of Watergate was someone made a Watergate coin. Oh. Watergate NFTs? Oh my God. This is a real world that we live in. Hi, DL. Would you rather lose 5% of your personal data at random every year?
Starting point is 02:46:03 No backups are allowed. or have 100% of your data perfectly preserved forever, but completely unencrypted and publicly accessible. 5% gone. So yeah. He's trying to calculate how much of it's leaked anyways. 100% of your data. When you say data, you get here, help me out a little bit.
Starting point is 02:46:35 Are we talking digital files? I kind of took this as like your NAS at home. That's how I took it as well. Okay, but do I have a chance to scrub it first? Oh, it's not like today. It's like if you want to store stuff in the future, So I could go through and I could, like, remove any pictures of my passport that I took at some point to, like, send to that so he could book a flight. But they would have to be deleted.
Starting point is 02:46:57 You couldn't have them anywhere else. Yeah. I think you could never store them ever either. I don't think you could take a picture of it. I'd accept that going forward, I would just have to have, like, perfect digital hygiene. But that would mean you could never take a picture under any circumstance of your passport. That's how I'm interpreting. I could message it to someone.
Starting point is 02:47:18 because it's it's the picture is only for convenience my convenience not the recipient too so like honestly it would make me more considerate i think that's not in the spirit of the question it just says personal data i i interpreted as like things i would store on a nas but i think yeah you're maybe going a bit too far taking a photo is is personal data it would be saved on your phone and then it would be publicly accessible yeah so then i wouldn't take that picture anymore is what i'm saying like i could send them text but i wouldn't count that as like that i wouldn't store that on a NAS. So does that count? Because I interpreted it as stored on a NAS, and that's what I'm even remotely considering. If we're talking every message that I ever send to anyone ever forever,
Starting point is 02:48:02 then, then, okay, so which one is it? I leaned more to where it's the NASS side. I think that was maybe a little more easily conceptualizable. Otherwise, everything else is just like, oh, well, I just, let's just not use the internet. You have like your taxes and stuff? I mean, I don't think I keep that on my NAS. I don't do my taxes, so that helps. I was going to say, does your, does your wife? Yeah, but that's not my personal data then. Like, I don't have it.
Starting point is 02:48:32 So I'm just losing 5%, but you might be able to do the Honda. What about you, Dan? I think it was on the NAS, I would. Man, that's just personal data. I don't think you can be like, just only the things I put on my NASDA. They said personal data. Then it's got to be the 5%. and I'll just take five of every picture and hope that
Starting point is 02:48:53 because for me it's all about pictures. Just mathematically game it. Just buy a ton of extra hard drives. Yeah, that's what I would do. There's like, well, no, because I think. 40 million pictures of one parking spot. I don't know. That's your NAS.
Starting point is 02:49:10 If you think about, don't look at my camera roll either. I think maybe more in the spirit of like 5% of like, you know, if you had 40 million of the. same picture, you would lose that picture. Yeah, probably. It's all hash, so if it's the same picture. Disagree. I would, no, I would take, I would just like, you would gamble with it? I'd hit my shutter five times every time.
Starting point is 02:49:32 So they're all slightly different photos. Man, I'd print photos. I think that would actually be a huge part of my, my countermeasures against this, is I would actually print photos. Yeah, I'd just go back. Interesting. Interesting. Because for me, anything else is like replaceable, but photos are not. I think I'm going to do the 100%. you're going to do the 100% and just put it all out there. Because it's stuff that I would not want to lose.
Starting point is 02:49:56 Like there's a lot of stuff that I cloud replicate nightly. You know, it's kind of my super slide data. You can't pirate anything anymore ever again. Not that you do. Well, you can. People will just know. Yeah, so then you can't. Why not?
Starting point is 02:50:11 Because you get sued to oblivion. Oh, come on, not in Canada. There's no obfuscation, though. I think you still would. I'll just slice in some zip bombs. It'll be fine. You can't. can't be sued for pirating anything in Canada.
Starting point is 02:50:23 That doesn't seem right. No, I really don't think so. Someone, not a lawyer, but like I... This would be like an insane haven. Online piracy is a criminal offense in Canada. Yeah, but what's the consequence for it? Like, someone would have to actually pursue it. And is that for downloading or is that for sharing?
Starting point is 02:50:55 I'm trying to look through it. I think, I think just leaching, you can't really get, like hit too hard for in 2022 22.4% of Canadians access pirate services that sounds about right let's go all right
Starting point is 02:51:13 with all the tech prices do you think apparently thousands of Canadians every year are the targets of legal action based on piracy yeah but is that for redistribution because that's my understanding doesn't seem too specific Anyway, sorry, keep going.
Starting point is 02:51:37 With all of the tech prices, do you think Optane or Ready Boost might make a return? Not Optane, because Intel and... Rip Optane. Micron completely divorced over that whole thing. Man, Optane was so cool. But the concept of an SSD cache, I was actually thinking about that earlier as we were talking about hard drive and storage prices. it works really well. It does.
Starting point is 02:52:05 It's kind of a very underrated solution to a problem that became not a problem, but is becoming a problem again. Which is kind of neat, because I thought it was a fun solution as well. I use it on my nest. It's fun. It's cool. It's interesting. It's nifty.
Starting point is 02:52:22 It's neat. I tried to buy an opt-in drive because Linus was talking them up so much. And they were like $250 for a teeny tiny one when I was, looking. And then... Really? Yeah, I think it was like right near the end or something. And yeah, I just got like a hundred and twenty-eight gig SSD for like a dollar at that time. Back in my day.
Starting point is 02:52:46 You can still get the 16 gig ones for like 10 bucks. 20 with delivery. Yeah, I wasn't looking on eBay because I'm stupid. All right. Here's 10 of the 16 gig ones for $53. Stuff like this is always confusing to me, because... Because I really don't think a lot. Obviously people bought them, right?
Starting point is 02:53:10 But like they were never popular that I was aware of. So like they clearly produced them at a volume that like people have this many of them, you know? It's like what? Who was buying these? Where did they come from? Where did they go? Server offloading, I think. But like 16 games for what?
Starting point is 02:53:31 Who put these in anything? What are we even talking about here? No idea. Yeah, right? Wild. Anyway. Where do you see the line between a company's agency and the need to act upon the whims of a consumer base, i.e. why pressure Apple to support AirPods on Android if it's not the vision for the product?
Starting point is 02:53:54 Because they're Bluetooth headphones that benefit from the industry-wide standard that is Bluetooth. and in my mind, a basic part of a product is providing ongoing support, which Apple clearly agrees with, given that they actually do a phenomenal job, generally speaking, of providing ongoing software and firmware support for their products. And I fucking bought it. That's why. I bought it. It's mine. You have an obligation to warranty it and support it. and the fact that I didn't buy another one of your products is just utter arrogance. As for what their vision of the experience is, that's nice,
Starting point is 02:54:42 but my vision of the experience is that when you provide a firmware update, I have a fucking way to apply it without buying another one of your products because I already fucking bought one. It's pretty simple to me. And the fact that anyone will put Apple's dong so far down their throat to defend something like that is mind blowing. They don't know you. They don't know your name.
Starting point is 02:55:11 They don't care about you. Stop defending bad behavior. If Google did the same thing or Samsung did the same thing, I would think it was ridiculous. If you buy the product, you are the customer and you should be supported. Full stop. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. I'm thinking about switching to SteamOS on my main PC, but I have different monitors.
Starting point is 02:55:41 Should I get all the same monitors, or just wing it with the three I have now? Wing it. Wing it. Save that money, son. Yeah. Does it not support mismatch monitors or something? Your bezels, I think they just want their bezels to match.
Starting point is 02:56:01 And like everything would be even and the bases look the same. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. Hey, Hey, LLD, thinking of building a 10-gabit NAS. If I am running Z-FS, Z2 in True NAS, would I benefit from buying SaaS drives with HPA? The X-X-24 SaaS drives are almost the same price with current pricing.
Starting point is 02:56:26 I wouldn't get SaaS drives just because then you're limited to using SaaS-HBAs forever. and for a home user, the benefit of SaaS is just not going to materialize. I would go SAT assuming that the cost is equal. The only way that I would go SaaS as a home user is that if for some reason there was like a lot, like not like a large quantity, like an auction lot, like like a bunch of SaaS drives. and they were an amazing deal, like way cheaper, so much cheaper that I could buy a SaaS HBA and the backup. And that would be all my storage that I needed because... I don't see that happening right now.
Starting point is 02:57:14 Yeah, that's not going to happen right now. But that would be the only way that you would get me to go SaaS. If I was just buying new drives, I would go SETA for sure every time. This is like... Oh, man. If you don't know why you need Sass, you don't need it. So someone was talking earlier, I don't remember why I had this thought, but somebody was talking earlier about like,
Starting point is 02:57:36 oh yeah, like buying new stuff right now sucks, but like the use market's always there. Man, the use market sucks right now. Yeah, it does. The use market is terrible right now. This is great. Crystal's still talking about the Apple firmware update thing. She goes, if you pay for an escort,
Starting point is 02:57:52 you shouldn't be the one doing the deep throating, basically. You are the customer. Assert your rights. Well, it kind of depends, I guess. I mean, if you're into it, I'm not going to yuck your yum or whatever. Some people might be into that with Apple. There are people that are into financial. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:16 Financial abuse kink? Like what? No, that's a thing. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Finn Dom. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:22 That's not like financial. No, it is. What? Yeah, it's a thing. Shut up. Yeah, people might be that way with Apple. Yeah, look at chat. That's okay.
Starting point is 02:58:36 Findom. Oh, I thought you said, Femdom. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can have both. Findom? I think usually it is both. It usually is both, yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:48 Pay-pig. It involves a power dynamic where the sub It would need to. Willingly relinquishes financial control often without any sexual contact, sometimes through online platforms.
Starting point is 02:59:22 The sub will often be insulted using terms like tribute or draining this is wild so maybe people will like that about Apple Avon Fox's line is how are you so online and yet often so not why would I go looking for this
Starting point is 02:59:54 how could I possibly come across this I didn't go looking for this He's already got a wife that does all his taxes and handles all his money You're going to say are you sure to me You think I, of all people, would be into something like that? Are you kidding me? Here's out my money that you won't spend. I don't mean when looking for it to engage in it.
Starting point is 03:00:17 That's like as far away from me as possible. I could see you finding your way through a Wikipedia wormhole of like weird kinks or something. I could see it. Yeah, sure. If you're looking at like, you know those like political spectrum grids? Yeah. If there's like my interests and this, we're. like oh 100% opposite
Starting point is 03:00:36 quarter 100% this is so bizarre to me like I could like I think I don't get it I think I've had a pretty clear stance that like sex work is work and I'm not like as long as everyone's adult and consenting and whatever I think
Starting point is 03:00:51 you know sex acts I'm this is being paid to go shopping whatever is also work whatever works for your relationship just keep the stuff okay whatever works for your relationship you know what I'm not going to, I'm not going to judge. I keep my nose out of your business.
Starting point is 03:01:08 You keep your nose out of mine. Everything's good. Everything's chill. But this is fucked up. I'm going to try to not yuck your yum, but I'm definitely going to go, hmm. Yeah. Okay, let's, yeah. Like, like, could I narrow my eyes enough to express my eye narrowness for this one?
Starting point is 03:01:26 What are you doing? Like, it's like, if you're going to, if you're going to, if you're going to hire a sex worker like it's right in the name in it yeah you're missing part you might as well at least get late but then it would be a glucose guardian situation what the hell's a glucose guardian Gender neutral term for Sugar Daddy. Shut up! No. It's current year.
Starting point is 03:01:59 Is that real? Did you just come up with that? No. No, I did not. Oh my God. You're going to be gender neutral. Come on. It's fine. Oh, man. Oh. Them baby's got to, you know, have love to.
Starting point is 03:02:23 Hmm. I mean, I mean, what? I'm going to turn into a Minecraft villager. All right. I actually had a follow-up question about SaaS drives. Sure, yeah. Maybe just get us out of here.
Starting point is 03:02:50 I have a, I have like a bucket of SaaS interposers at home. Is that also something that could be. experimented with? This is you personally? Yeah, me personally. Because I bought one of those Facebook servers, I think, or something like that. So I've got like, what the hell was it called? I can't remember.
Starting point is 03:03:13 Those are those, they're port multipliers, right? Something like that. It kind of converts SAT drives into SaaS drives and vice versa. Oh. It might only be one direction. It might just be SAT to SAS. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. again that would only be if you have SaaS HBAs or like a SaaS
Starting point is 03:03:33 um might have been j-bought or something but but if they were SATA to SAS drives would that be something to consider if you wanted to like flirt with the idea of SaaS drives I just I wouldn't flirt with SAS drives I just I don't I don't care about them for home NAS use what what now no has some full playing jazz this is the stream DMS's kids will see see when they watch when they see their parents wedding.
Starting point is 03:04:04 They won't watch the whole thing. It'll be fine. We're talking about glucose guardians and Finn Dobb. Hey, it's after dark. I'm sorry. This is also the first inaugural stream on LNG clips.
Starting point is 03:04:31 Yeah. I forgot about that. We never even mentioned that. We're migrating the WAN show to the LMG Clips channel over the next little while. So we're going to be simultaneously streaming on both channels for some amount of time, and then eventually it's going to go LMG Clips exclusive as we migrate it off of the main LTT channel. I've been hanging out with them.
Starting point is 03:04:58 They're super chill. Oh yeah, there's like 350 people watching over there? Yeah, they're really cool. Yeah, so you're going to want to get in the habit of watching over on LM Clips sometimes. over the next little bit. I will open that chat as well. In the future. Kevin says,
Starting point is 03:05:14 oh, please no. What difference would that make? Now, you're watching on float plane, Kevin. It's not going to... This is for YouTube.
Starting point is 03:05:21 Crying out loud. Yeah. Yeah, sorry, just to clarify, this only affects YouTube viewers. Yes, yes. Float plane forever. Relax, everyone.
Starting point is 03:05:30 Okay, well, my brain hurts. Final merch message. Sure. Ah! Calm. Thanks for that. Are you going to read it, Dan? I was just letting a beat play out there.
Starting point is 03:05:48 Thank you. Greetings all. Is there any update on the light switches in Linus's home? Did they get all of the kinks worked out yet? The new ones are here. I haven't installed them yet. I will. But there's just a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 03:06:05 Yes, this is an adequate media thing, David Easy. We need to get the show off of an LMG. owned channel and migrate a channel that's like kind of worthless right now to um adequate media merch message you mean pay pig post i like send me your pepies i don't think it can because you get the product yeah if if you bought it and for some reason linus got it then i think that would make sense what if we just sent them nothing yeah can they just can they just like buy me screwdrivers is that like what do i have to do you Oh no, that's just bits.
Starting point is 03:06:47 I think nothing in this scenario. You sure? I think you can do whatever you want. I don't know, though. What if I want to do really weird stuff with it? Then I think you probably get more people. We'll see you next week. Same bad time.
Starting point is 03:07:01 Same bad channel. Bye!

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