The WAN Show - Go F Yourself dbrand - WAN Show December 1, 2023

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

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What is up everybody and welcome to the WAN Show! Honestly, it's not really that big of a story, but it is absolutely hilarious. Elon Musk told his... told his sponsors to go f*** themselves. That's one way to get him back. Yeah, I mean... You gotta play hard to get. Yeah, yeah, I tried that with my ex.

Note that I called her ex. No, actually, I never tried that. Anyway, it was a great title. So what are you going to do? In other news, Dbrand. There's a Dbrand and Casetify update. Oh, yeah, right. I remember how I was going to segue between them.

I was going to be like, speaking of our sponsors, and go f*** yourself. Dbrand. Anyway, we're going to give you guys the update on what's going on with Casetify. Don't worry, we still love D dbrand what else we got going on here uh I'm not prepared at all

you had so much time I honestly did I had an incredible amount of time I'm so late today you didn't even look at the doc and you didn't even take a topic that I wanted to shout out it's remarkable

I'll just take a drink of water um there was a there was an there was a tech conference that had fake uh female speakers no yeah that was almost the title of the video today but luke was afraid that people would just see the title and we would get canceled again yeah so i thought it was a great title it was like fake women are a problem in tech yeah yeah but it's but people would have clicked it they sure would have clicked it but no no it's that they were actually fake fabricated yeah made up they were lied about so we're gonna talk about that because it's yeah terrible it's actually really lame like yeah so we'll yeah we'll yeah but we won't talk about that with that as the title okay yes yeah um okay what what is this viewer sent metal screwdriver and mining

backpack oh that must be why tynan's here oh all right let's roll that intro oh that's sick that's great all right why don't we jump into not really that big of a topic but let's get it out of the way uh earlier this week uh following major advertisers leaving the ex formerly twitter platform due to musk endorsing a tweet that honestly i am not even going to repeat musk did a video interview with the New York Times where he was briefly contrite, calling it perhaps one of his worst posts, then declared,

don't advertise. If someone's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go f*** yourself. The f*** was repeated several times. So are they in a relationship now? I'm sorry. Including, at one point,

Hey Bob, an apparent reference to Disney's Bob Iger, quote, What this advertising boycott is going to do is, it is going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company ceo linda yaccarino was apparently sitting stone-faced in the front row for the interview wow let me tell you as someone who has gone through some stuff, you know, after bringing someone on to help me in a leadership role quite recently.

I don't think this is how you do it. I don't think you're giving Ms. Yaccarino a lot of options, a lot of ammo. Well, I was going to say, I don't think you're exactly tossing her a layup, but it's more like I don't think you're even givings yaccarino um a lot of options a lot of ammo well i was gonna say i don't think you're exactly tossing her a layup but it's more like i don't think you're even giving her a ball you like kicked it out of the stadium go get it and then while she was gone you burned it to the ground and no i don't think that the majority of people are going to blame disney for the downfall twitter i mean even the people who love twitter love that it is a flaming pile of absolute garbage it is it is a dumpster fire and

it can go itself i think is sort of the mentality i think that while there are absolutely things that are valuable about twitter like i haven't found a replacement for example creator messaging for how to no i wasn't even going to say that we've talked about that in the past but i haven't found a replacement for staying up to date on my like juicy creator scandals and for me that's not just a guilty pleasure there's definitely a little bit of it but it's also just being in tune with what the heck is going on in my industry like i should i should probably have some idea you know like there's gotta be an option like like live stream fails or i don't know you can you can like go to dexerto or something like that like they well

yeah well that's what i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about you're not gonna go to live stream fails that's not gonna have everything there yeah i don't do that that's fair enough yeah exactly so i mean come on guys let let me know like is there is there a viable alternative because it's tailored enough for me at this point that it knows that i'm probably going to click on you know someone who is under fire for selling eight dollar cookies or whatever else um which to be clear i think some people kind of misinterpreted what i said about that i i am not taking a stance on that i have not done any research into the whole like pokemain cookies thing which i think is mostly blown over at this point but i i seemed like it seemed like some people thought that i was like taking a side in

this i've never tried the cookies i've never tried the cookies that they are allegedly very similar to i i they're cookies i have a lot of questions about buying cookies online in general that's sort of why are you shopping for cookies on the internet i didn't i didn't even make it all the way to the internet is for digital cookies only okay oh my goodness no physical all right thanks it's been a great show oh man um anyway the point is like i i wouldn't know about stuff like that. And over the course of my career, I have... How do I put it?

I have made at least one questionable choice when it came to deciding on people to collab with. At least one, eh? That's all I'm saying, because otherwise I might end up identifying someone. I don't want... Look, I've told you this a hundred times my life is a drama free zone i sometimes violate my policy but it is my goal it is an aspirational statement okay

and the point is if i had stayed up to date on some of this stuff I may have made different decisions at least once yeah yeah yeah there's yeah I'm not gonna go into that further yeah it's great because no one in the chat seems to agree about who I'm talking about which is telling it of itself yeah yeah that's amazing oh okay no okay, okay. I completely misread someone's thing there. So, okay. You know what, though? Maybe there's room for another interpretation here. Do you think that there is a group of people that would blame advertisers for the downfall of Twitter

because they don't realize that Twitter was never profitable before and that making it worse and getting in a bunch of legal trouble is probably not going to help it survive i guarantee you at least some people would uh is it just as simple as as that elon said it or would they have come up with that on their own uh both i think to be honest i think there's more because elon said it but i think i think some people because people were already on this train this is not a new train now hold on a second then tell me this then yeah if if d brand okay or msi for that matter both of whom i have told to go f**k themselves tonight if if either of them were to stop advertising with us i feel like i feel like doing that to d brand makes them want to advertise a few more but msi i'm not sure about

actually there's definitely people at msi that i have definitely told to go themselves just you know light-hearted banter yeah but not everyone i don't have a personal relationship with everyone there um so good luck me we'll see yeah but okay let's let's say i didn't directly attack them if i if i said something okay okay okay here's a controversial issue let's take let's take the issue of um taiwan versus um what it was roc or um that's taiwan yeah yeah i i forget i forget what the yeah whatever the two i think roc is taiwan and poc is china i'm sorry i i don't remember but the the point is that there's there's some debate over the name of that island so why don't we just why don't we leave it there sure and and i could see for example um a certain brand

kind of going okay yeah that was a red that was a red line uh you know linus took a stance he called it taiwan uh he doesn't even know the other name for it so whatever right the point is you know someone could someone could hear that and go okay yeah red line if all of a sudden you know ltd doesn't survive anymore whose fault is it? I think... Yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of it depends on viewpoint. Because I think it's going to depend on what you think of the initial statement. I guess so. But like, from just a... I don't know, just like almost like a free will standpoint.

Advertisers are not obligated to advertise on a particular platform. I also feel like, at least for me, I'm sure there's people. I don't follow that logic. I'm sure there's people. Oh, yeah. No, I completely. That's really stupid. Obviously.

Yeah. Agreed. But I also, I'm sure some people care i've never understood the like we're gonna pull advertising on like even this type of content because advertising on it means we endorse it whatever like when you're taking the shotgun approach and just advertising on everything like who cares i've never seen a brand um have like a automated pre-roll ad on something that i didn't like or agree with and be like i must cancel all affiliation with this brand like i just i'm assuming they're taking a shotgun approach and i just don't care you also understand how online advertising works to a degree

okay i don't think that you know your your your your great aunt mabel necessarily understands that this is a hypothetical person just don't worry about it i hope i have a great and in the and in the past traditionally that was the case advertisers would select television programs that were somewhat in alignment with at the very least the demographics they were trying to reach because it was all so much more manual back then and they would they would tailor the messaging to who they thought they were talking to and yeah obviously the way that that works is very different now and i think that you know with the rise of the internet um people can be into a lot of stuff that wasn't necessarily on cable TV, you know, in the 80s in North America, for example. And so these were decisions that brands were never faced with before is, are we, you know, are we willing to take the small hits against us from the people who still think that we have anything to do with the choice

of, you know, wear our stuff. And you know what? Actually, that's not even true because you do still control it to a degree. Like if you're, let's say, on a pornographic website and you saw an advertiser there. Okay, let's say you saw Crest White Strips, you know, advertising like,

do you like white teeth? So tell me tell me you wouldn't do this time and do you hear this tell me you wouldn't have an association there Maybe you also like mouthwash oh wow oh man that would probably see good sales that would be hilarious i i sure man especially the second example there i just would think would be so funny i would probably buy their product i honestly it might drive sales gorilla marketing this someone oh my god i would respect them so much okay but now let's go let's go one more degree of separation we gotta talk no we won already how long has the show been running for what i don't know not even that long remember he was like i'm gonna try to not respond to... Oh yeah, we got him. We got him.

No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I meant at all. No. No, like... Gold post moving. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

Whatever. Exactly. Whatever. Whatever. Get rekt. Scrub. Anyway, the point is, let's go one degree of separation further though. Okay.

And let's hear about... Or let's put ourselves in the mind of the person who reads about this scandalous behavior from, I don't even know who markets, Procter & Gamble or something, probably. I don't even know. Maybe it's 3M. It's probably thermal paste in there anyway. I'm just kidding. Sorry, sorry.

My great-grandmother brushed her teeth with baking soda her whole life, which I didn't realize was an option, even though the best toothpastes are the ones that are with baking soda. So I could just get a box of... Really? Anyway, she never had a cavity in her life, and I'm just like, that's cool. The year is now insert year.

I think I'll just use a baking soda toothpaste. It's minty. It makes my mouth taste nice. It takes some mint flavor. Yeah, but that's pretty cool. I don't remember how I got onto this subject. like a baking soda toothpaste it's minty it makes my mouth taste mint flavor yeah yeah but like um but that's pretty cool i don't remember how i got onto this subject the point is that we're a degree of separation removed and someone reads about but i just like this scandalous okay so my biggest my biggest thing here and they go how could they support that

how could they support that industry my biggest thing here is i it's it's not a the website itself the idea of the website itself because you were describing one where the idea of the website is potentially contentious the idea of twitter is not really contentious it's text and i mean the interaction yes and no but it's it's by that logic it's actions and comments of the ceo by that logic this is a video site and this is also a video but it's a video site for a very specific content which is contentious sure but i think what's contentious for that content but i think what's contentious about it is supporting that industry if you want to really boil it down and so specifically comments from the CEO.

I know. So it comes down to not wanting to support, but plenty of people use this site that openly viciously hate that person. But it's the, but it's the risk. It's the risk of having your brand message next to something that is highly controversial and or offensive. If that's

true they should have been off twitter years ago which is i think the the point that i was digging for in all of this yeah that is the most valid take the fact that they are turning this into an opportunity to to posture or virtue signal or whatever else it is is it just comes across disingenuous to me it's like if you if you don't support you know having your advertising next to content you find offensive then honestly speaking you might as well remove it from the internet yeah you shouldn't be advertising on reddit that's for sure no not youtube i don't know if reddit allows advertisers to select specific subreddits or specific genres probably probably as an advertiser you can say look i don't

want any nsfw subreddits or something like that probably your only two flags though i i i'd be surprised i'm sure reddit likes wants to offer more tailored advertising like if i'm if i'm in the ltt subreddit it's always full of like tech ads or gaming ads and stuff like that like i don't get anything for shoes gonna have to sign up mind you that could be just because they know i never buy shoes why would i it's it does it does say target your audience reach customers where they're the most passionate and engaged so you can probably yeah pick like a style of subreddit or something like that question what's up is it time to start an x days until twitter dies pool and yes i did that on purpose you know what it didn't even phase me because i didn't even think about it as x

like it's just it's such a weird um is it time to like are we within the sort of 180 day like it's got to be it's gonna be so really yeah do you think he'll put more money in because i don't think a third party i don't i don't think an outside investor is gonna after what happened to the last ones they'd have to be idiots i mean the last ones i i don't no offense man see how am i going to maintain my drama free zone when i say things like no offense but if you invested billions of dollars in twitter you're a fucking idiot um i'm sorry if your goal was getting a financial return out of it yeah yeah i mean that's true if your goal was getting a financial return out of it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's true. If your goal was something else, if your goal was, you know, cozying up to Musk or...

Or whatever. Or the fellow investor. I don't know. I don't know what your goal was. If your goal was something else and that helps you sleep at night or whatever, then you know what? You've made a good decision.

But if your goal was the primary goal of investing... Which is to make money. I'm so sorry. That's an oomph yeah um yeah yeah i don't know i i like oh no i i offended dozens of billionaires i i think i'll be okay without them you know i go off of the dms page on twitter sometimes and just go like what's happening out there not that often but i'll poke around and it's insane yeah i like my comment of like they should have left a long time ago i don't feel like the whatever the home button page is i don't know what it's called for you or something yeah i don't know i don't whatever page that is has been just complete chaos and debauchery forever and it still is

like that's just i don't know like captain slip says uh i don't think they're dying anytime soon every social network insert i see in the news about anything is always an embedded tweet never mastered on, never threads. It's still happening on Twitter first and foremost. And you know what? I don't deny that. It is. Their momentum.

The problem is the money. They're not a public company anymore. They have to be funded somehow. They can't just take money from the world. And like he was saying, unless because it's not a public company to gain money, he either needs to inject it himself uh which as far as i know the only thing he has been willing to put on the line is shares no dollar dollars um no i think he i think he's gonna have to get more he sold shares for cash to make the purchase yeah

yeah if i recall correctly i thought he put the shares up as like collateral or something you know what uh okay i'm not gonna lie i don't remember when it passed past mortgages and like basic buy stock it go up make money it go down lose money it's not my world it's it's it's it's one of those things where i i would probably need more than the fingers on both of my hands to count the number of times I've had to look up exactly how shorting a stock works. Fundamentally, I kind of understand it. You're committing to buy later, but at a lower price.

So if it goes down, then you make money. Okay. But then the number of times that i've like landed on wikipedia read through it gone okay this is exactly the mechanism and then promptly forgotten about it and then it's come up in the news again i'm like man this is so frustrating i knew how this worked i get okay okay how does it work i'm sorry uh tprnl says the for you tab is totally based on who you follow i don't believe that uh just remove the rotten apples in who you follow yeah okay it's like a bunch of tech people there's people i follow for work there used to be people that i followed that would just straight up like just porn

and it would show up in my feed and i'd be like what are you doing like do you know that this like shows to everyone that you've done this i don't know yeah like i'm not gonna go i'm not gonna dm a grown man and be like bt dubs hey why are you horny on maine everyone sees what you're into and i really didn't follow you for that and i would prefer if you didn't um i don't know it's a funny thing because the way that i was raised was honestly pretty open about that like when i was when i was but you're effectively posting it to everyone else no hold on hold on no when i was young okay i i have family members friends and even my own house that would have okay more on the artful side but definitely have large very nude prints you know in their houses um you know i i i visited like family friends who definitely just had pinups literally pinned up like you know in

their bathroom or in their house or whatever you know calendars uh openly on display yep my um one of my parental units i'm just not going to name them just to make it easier um so that i don't have to answer questions about this later because i can just say oh no i was referring to the other one um one of my one of my parental units had a deck of playboy playing cards uh or either playboy or penthouse like like some i don't think playboy because it was not that classy so it must have been like penthouse or hustler or something but like i i had access to those at you know eight or nine and yet i'm actually hyper conservative about that sort of thing like i i i i i i see people

just who are like and and so like what i'm trying to explain is i grew up with it just being normal to just like have pornography in your house and but to me the idea of broadcasting that on twitter internet to these people that follow you for tech content or whatever i mean at the at the very least i i would i i would personally if i felt if i felt compelled to share it, and you know what? I'm not judging the kinds of shared experiences that people want to have. I actually am not. Sure.

But I just, maybe an alt account. Have an alt. And you can link to it and say, like, this is the not safe for work alt, whatever. That's fine. But put it behind, you know. Make me take another step. Or indicate really, really really really early on that this is like something that you do on there or something i don't know hi aj bye aj

are you looking for it you need hold on luke this is breaking news yes um clickbait works works that's right experts agree also deep random language yeah okay yeah this is a Christian minecraft server mean they can't they said a mean word to us that's not okay yeah yeah yeah we only implied a mean word anywho oh boy actually i i haven't even looked at what viewership is like for the stream overall. Did this work on everybody? Whoa, okay, it's pretty good. Usually it's not that much this early in the show. Man, we should say that every week.

Yeah, cool. We should just find a sponsor and just be like, yeah, I'll f*** you and f*** you. I mean, it won't last long, but boy, will it ever be a wild ride. Wansha will do slightly better for a few weeks hey maybe they'll make it up in like screwdrivers hey yeah should be fine or uh hoodies hoodies Jacob S got the hoodie hey nice oh yeah I'm gonna get the laptop bag later hey speaking of creator warehouse stuff why don't we jump into our next topic which is apparently um that tynan is gonna be joining us do you have like a microphone or like how does this even work he's just been he's been he's been skulking i love that word and i love using it he's been skulking over

there and he's got a box he does he's been skulking, which sounds way dirtier than it is. It really does, especially with the previous topics. He's a box skulker. So what is this? I don't know, but it's apparently an emergency. Oh. Got that EMS tape right on there. Yeah.

That's a courier, right? I don't know. Let me see. It sounds... Don't shake it too much Okay Whatever's in there is marching He just said don't shake it

Well yeah he didn't define too much This doesn't seem like too much to me Okay hold on Usually I would interpret that as like Don't shake it any more than absolutely required Coward Okay Would you like to do the care and handling instructions? Yeah It's not like you're going would you like to do the Karen handling instructions yeah

okay it's not like you're gonna pay attention to them so yeah well one of these things I think I figured out what it's for you should just ceremoniously drop oh you should just ceremoniously drop it uh okay uh i don't know where i'm supposed to oh my gosh that looks really long i don't definitely don't have to read all of that there was like there it's it's in like a thing which opens backwards and then they didn't use the inside of it to type okay so basically it looks

like my daughter's made it this is advanced difficulty um brass brass will naturally develop a patina over time giving it a dull finish the very tip of the brass screwdriver is brass the very tip of what now uh the the brass plated screwdriver now might be a good time to look at the pieces on the inside of the boxes okay i feel like whoa whoa hello buddy hold on hold on hold on a second okay what's happening we're gonna do the oh wow that's an interesting framing for the linus cam no no it might actually be very convenient yeah it's perfect dan oh uh well it was perfect and then i ruined it no no you're good you're good it's behind the banner

lift it up i'm trying this is your first time i'm lifting it up what are you doing and then this thing came down two You have two hands? Use them. Oh my god. Jeez. Alright, I'm using one of them. Yeah, you like that? I show up and all chaos unfolds. Glorious. It's always like this. Oh no.

I think the chaos is exponentially proportional to the number of people here. Yeah, that sounds about right. What can I say? I just like when people watch. I get excited. Oh, man.

Okay. I think what I'm looking at are some prototypes. These look very kind of not handcrafted, obviously. These are machined. But it looks like various one-off sort of components very yeah like attempts almost at something like this one has uh two of the flat sides kind of applied to it this looks like oh i think i i think i see what's happening here this looks like a selector ring uh wait hold on. Well, this is obviously one of our ratchet mechanisms and shafts.

I would recognize it anywhere. And there's a whole bunch of other little... You'd recognize your own shaft? Like, this was laved, and this is really good. It's flared out at the tip, so that's safe. The ratchet that was ours may have came from us putting it in the box we put it in there oh okay that particular one okay okay so i think i think we're about to see something here for display purposes the metal can be polished back to a shiny finish the recommended polishing

compound is something something caution please avoid excessive policy oh whatever yeah none of that the ratchet mechanism is based on a readily available screwdriver performance is not on par with the ltd version there's a dead spot in the mechanism for manufacturing mistake there's no cause for concern uh if the certain mechanism feels tight and uneven because it's not ours okay so there are two drivers and there's two drivers you you might want to take it out entirely just in time for the christmas season rudolph the red-nosed reindeer so handle with silver and gold silver and gold i don't think i should even touch them because of how oily my hands are no no you're good that's fine uh dan um that's uh okay good i guess good job wow okay so now hold on a second insane what am i looking at okay that okay

man so the two drivers are quite different oh okay no no i can tell wait recognize that yeah this one's our ratchet mostly yeah oh okay listen to this extras in the package is a grab bag full of a selection of scrap slash prototype parts probably about 500 bucks worth of shiny but equally useless parts wow small insight into the months of manufacturing feel free to keep the grab bag so we are sending back the drivers this one is actually functional that is so cool okay here do you want to check this out i gotta i gotta show them the next one so this one whoa this one weighs um oh yeah no it had yeah yeah i mean it also goes the wrong way yeah this one is not as functional as the other one but this is polished brass gets that gold looking yeah it does that looks flipping incredible and the tip is plated and you can kind of see how it looks different than the

rest of the piece it's crazy wow and this one was the one that was based off of a different mechanism you know what they did a pretty good job of i mean at least as as close as i think you can get um with not using a plastic molded part like having to do with flat surfaces but pretty close to the hand feel of our oh oh tynan has something else for us okay does the person who made these know that they didn't need to do that i mean that's never the point when you're making something like that that's fair but that is pretty true it is this is what we have coming have you seen this yet luke yes actually oh i've snuck a peek that's way less fun um tinen how close is this one to what we are planning to launch surface finishes may be a bit different but other than

that it should be pretty close okay ready so i was i was uh i was playing it up a little bit. I know that polished brass looks a lot like gold because we are going with polished brass because I thought it looked so amazing for the accents on our aluminum driver. Now, obviously, it's not going to look as blingtastic as this, so he definitely did still have to make his own if he wanted something that looked like that. But for the rest of you,

the functionality of this is up to LTT standard. So it's really got that nice, satisfying pop mechanism. The team worked extraordinarily hard. At least that's what they tell me. I don't know. I can never tell. No, just kidding. They worked hard.

Retuning the selector ring and i believe you guys had to make some changes to the ratchet under it is that correct i don't i don't remember no okay so they but they had to play around a lot with the selector ring because the way that the the the sort of one-time um fit works on the plastic one did not work very well for metal and so the earlier ones it was i think one millimeter wider and it was it was very noticeable it i was like oh this this feels wrong um please fix it please fix and they were like oh okay we know you're gonna say that but okay uh our meetings often go quite like that so the person who made the other drivers got around the same problem in a different way oh if you look at the stainless steel driver oh yeah okay here i'm going to your cam luke if you spin it like if you select it you can see that the top piece doesn't move oh yeah no i felt

that i felt that already what they did was they threaded it on to the zinc housing right here so they threaded it onto the zinc housing and then loctited it and then have the actual selector be a separate piece that's actually a really good idea so it's hard to see in the camera but right on the edge of my fingernail that's where the seam is that is so cool so they definitely did some development themselves to make these work i i i love it's remarkable these are these are really cool it is i always think nothing could surprise me anymore about just the passion of our community the tech community in general and then i'll say i'll then I'll see Doom running on like a fridge,

you know, or whatever, right? It didn't serve any purpose. It served no purpose other than, well, that's cool shit. And I'm going to do it. I just, man, I love that. I don't think we're going to anything this heavy uh yeah no he likes his heavy one his like stupid 3d printed steel one or whatever but it's fun it's a lot heavier though

it's hard to use heavy it's it's unpleasant i actually find it like unbalances my body heavy like it's not it's not good uh but the aluminum one with the brass accents we found that that was a good compromise you know looking at it under this light time and i'm not 100 sold is this pretty close to the finish that i had said i i preferred i can't remember aluminum finish is going to change still the aluminum finish still gonna okay yeah but we're pretty settled on the shiny brass i think right yeah it's gonna get like this really nice patina over time oh and it's gonna be so much better of a fidget toy too just because oh yeah yeah it's been for a long time is the is the right word inertia or momentum in this case both both because they're basically the same thing functionally right or less okay then i'm not going

to stress about it i want to hear the uh the closing sound it makes nice and close no they have more inertia which gives them more momentum right okay so i do understand it excellent good job linus they're close enough okay sorry what were you gonna say uh dan oh i want to i want to hear it close next to the mic a little bit better because it's just a beautiful sound. Yeah. Love it. Anyway, yeah, that is so cool. Thanks for sending these over to us just to check out and we will get them back to you in. Oh, I just love that it Oh, they look so good together. Okay, so Tynan.

I guess what that means is that for all the product photography for this, we have to do an inverse version just so that we can have that look. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I mean, it's doable. It would be so heavy. It's so much fun seeing the look on his face in person

compared to just seeing him talk in chat. Yeah. Yeah. Had to be here every now and then. All right thank you so much for showing us that oh oh this isn't the only thing no he's got there's another one what about second box it's the mining backpack so we we actually had this as a topic and i guess it's here that's what i think is happening at least yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so the entirety of creator warehouse was looking forward to getting this thing back to look at it yeah so i mean should we give people the uh should we give

people kind of the background for this um oh it first showed up in a post on reddit where um someone was talking about how frasher 11 uh frasher 11 yeah yeah yeah yeah there we go i was talking about how resilient the ltd backpack has been and he demonstrated this by posting his absolutely abused like wrecked looking bag that he had been using for one year and naturally a lot of people's response to that was I'm sorry you're delighted that this bag is at one year and still functioning and it looks like that and he's like whoa whoa whoa hold on I work as a miner but no a real one like underground

and it has been through some shit and he said that his previous bags were destroyed in half the time so he wasn't actually complaining about it and in fact from my understanding genuine he intended to continue to use it yeah but we saw an opportunity and i think it was actually chewy um from the from the social and community team who was like hey how about this can we get that from you why don't we get why don't we get frasher a new bag that he can destroy in a year or a year and a half or however long it takes him because he's apparently a unit and why don't we get that one back so we can get what is essentially um it's only one unit so it's not you know perfectly scientific or anything but but uh but a long-term sort of projection of you know where the wear points might be on our backpack if someone were to use

it for 10 years or 15 years um except frasher did it for us in one so this is my first time seeing it in person yeah um luke do you do you want to van it do you want to do you want to open it no no you can stay there it's just big i here hold on we're gonna i'm gonna switch to the loop cam really like how it looks so far okay hold on show them show them the top of the box wow uh do do it does anyone have i i have the lux bag right now does anyone have a a regular ltd backpack just for just for color comparison because it's like it's like almost it's patina it's brown yeah that's a brown. Yeah, that's a brown backpack. Oh, perfect. That's Tynan's. Is this yours, Tynan? Oh, really? You took the only new carabiners that we have? Oh, we have an update for you guys on that, right? yeah no no no no there's a your name tag what happened to it oh no oh i'm also a product tester even though i also developed them um yeah the um there's an update on them i believe the

first 50 000 units are going into production very very shortly we've resolved the issue i talked about on the show prior uh previously where basically there was a disagreement over when we owed them more money and I think we're moving forward and I think things are going to be good and I'm really excited to get those all shipped out to people. Okay, sorry Luke, I had you holding that basically forever while I just dragged my butt. Okay!

Yeah, you can see a difference. Yeah. Alright, okay, cool. Yeah. Alright. Okay. Cool. Here it comes. Handle is in like 100% condition and he was hanging it off of his like whatever that vehicle was that he was using

by the handle. Hey, we accounted for that. We have not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, but six rivets through the top handle because I knew people would do it. Every backpack i've ever owned has failed here or here or here and this like it's fine it's actually completely fine that is kind of i almost want to do this as like a colorway this yeah it's kind of cool okay his

carabiner pole died yeah this zipper pull's gone both of the two at the top have their the like arms broken off yeah no we did okay it's fine i mean do you want to here here here i'm gonna switch to the luke luke cam uh okay they can't see you oh wow the inside zipper is struggling a wee bit the inside is dirty i mean it's a ykk zipper what do you want from me oh wow the inside it's been used heavily there are some samples bit the inside is dirty i mean it's a ykk zipper what do you want for me oh wow the inside has been used heavily there are some samples on the inside of like what they mine just as a heads up oh it is very dirty remember how i said it's been through some shit some shit apparently been through it too oh oh what do you got what do you got i want to see whatever was in this one fell out oh uh maybe it was heavy i mean hey look it's ethereum just kidding just kidding it's real mining it's real money yeah yeah yeah

that's my understanding i don't actually really want to take it out of the bag but you can see all right i mean it is very dirty yeah that's fine i mean that's the whole point of this segment is versus was he actually carrying coal in the backpack i mean it looks like it looks like it presumably if not things covered in it okay yeah fair enough yeah um am i allowed to am i allowed to say where they came from i mean i guess it doesn't really matter right i don't know um shoemaker mines west virginia uh 265 to 330 million year old coal dude even even the like laptop sleeve area oh i know what my kids are getting for christmas that would actually be hilarious forbidden brownie oh my goodness oh this is if you need one it feeds you for the rest of your life

this is so cool there's a lot of calories in there so are these so we've got samples from various minds nope this is from the same mine it's just other more different sample probably so that oh i guess this is so multiple people on the team can have them as a keepsake i mean that's that kind of that that's where my logic brain goes okay check that check that dirty even so there's the main compartment proceeds to wipe his hands there's the main compartment that we saw yeah right yeah yeah even the like laptop compartment that is scuffed but still in really good shape yeah like it were like everything's still functional everything's still together okay

i found one hole in the outside of it you found a hole oh i think it's time to go hole hunting what about the uh the side pockets like are they full of stuff too a hole you say so the zippers are a little rough so not a partial you didn't find a partial it was a partial because of a design choice that we made earlier on uh oh

I feel like I feel like things are about to get spicy it's a good design choice not a bad one oh okay cool now I'm stressed where give me a hint okay the bottom this one yeah is that actually what you call that a hole well it's through the it's through one layer it's through one layer oh okay i think you put the bag down

on something hot or sharp or both. Okay. Okay. Here, lift up a little higher. You're below the, yeah, there we go. Right here. Right there. Okay.

There. Remember when I pointed to all the places that my backpacks have ever failed? I forgot to mention one. One of the final places that my backpacks have failed is along the bottom because I'm the kind of person who gets home at the end of the day, takes off my backpack, grabs it by the handle, swings along the floor and chucks it to where it goes.

So my backpacks tend to get worn really hard at the bottom. A lot of people have noted that our backpack is kind of on the big side, a little on the heavy side when it's empty. Yes. And part of that was very intentional. And one of the reasons for it is that the bottom panel

these entire two pieces right here are actually double layered so in the event here can i have a can i have a knife anyone got a knife on them do you want to damage it more than it is yeah yeah that's that's fine i don't think that should affect our analysis are we still doing the research that should be fine i think i can cut it are you uh contaminating a crime scene no no no there's no crime there's no ever not there's no crime is he ever not okay yeah let's go for it let's do it what's the line it we'll do it live line has stabbed me new title okay so let's uh don't yeah go somewhere like far from that one oh don't go right on the seam what what are you i'm not on the seam okay i'm close to it okay it's not actually that easy

to cut there we go so theoretically if our manufacturer is following our instructions oh wait is it not that one oh is it this one maybe it's just the one under the laptop compartment oh god this would be awkward cyber cyber truck what's the safety committee thought process on what's happening it's not going to cut linus where's my uh where's my second layer here? Well, then, wait. Well, why didn't the hole cause a problem? Okay, we need to investigate this for sure.

Sounds good. Is it under the foam? Is it under the foam? I think so. Oh. Can I see? I think you'd have to... Well, let's keep going.

I think you'd have to, like, let's keep going. I think you'd have to really go and then take the foam out, because the foam is stuck on something. Tynan's having a good day. It's fine. Everything is fine. I'm not sure if I agree. I think there's definitely some stuff for us to figure out here. Thanks, Tynan. Good chat.

The backpack is in remarkably good shape. That much is true, but that doesn't mean that I am not a little put out right now. I'm always a little put out, but... Was it that other layer? Mm-mm. Oh.

So we need to get that information to the team. Yep. I am covered in cold. As soon as humanly possible. Thank you very much much Tynan and things to explore have I ever told you guys that there's never a dull moment around here

yeah there is always something anyway at least it was hard to stick the knife through it oh hold on one sec anyway at least it was hard to stick the knife through it oh hold on one sec yeah what I'm actually wondering is if it's double thick

and if there might have been a bit of a miscommunication there. Where'd that knife go? Sorry. I'm in actual just like working on stuff mode right now. No, no, I'm good. Thank you. Sorry. I'm just going to put more holes in this, Tynan.

I hope that's okay. I don't think it matters if it's not. That sounded a lot easier. It's going to be really hard to tell. We will look into it. You'll need a, yeah. Yes, please. I don't need to tell him what he needs.

I don't know why I even started that. All right. Thanks, guys. Sorry, sorry. I see problems. I need to. All right. Thanks, guys. Sorry, sorry. I just, I see, I see problems. I need to learn about them, and I need to fix them, and it's as much a compulsion as it is actually a practical thing for the business. One of the problems I have right now is I haven't explained about merch messages.

So, guys, if you want to interact with the show, the way to do it is through a merch message. You can pick up one of our delightful backpacks, one of our delightful... Sorry, not this one. Thanks, honey. You don't have to duck that much. You won't see it.

One of our delightful screwdrivers. Hold on. Here's the one we're actually promoting right now. It was in my pocket. There you go. Got our new retro colorway, which is super awesome. It looks so cool.

Or whatever else strikes your fancy. And in the cart, you will see a little box titled Merch Messages whenever we're live. So instead of just throwing your money at the screen via Super Chat or Twitch Bits or whatever else, you get to throw your money at the screen and get your order in the mail. And as a bonus, it will go to producer producer dan who will either forward it to the relevant party internally reply to it himself chuck it up at the bottom of the screen so you can do a little shout out or you know send a little message or he will curate it for tynan starting investigating already or he will curate it for me and luke to address on the show so to show you guys how it

works dan is going to pitch us a couple of merch messages to talk about right now yeah sure i've got a couple here uh first one up i started a new job as a dell and lenovo warranty technician i love my new job so far but i'm afraid that i will upset a customer eventually do you have any advice for me i mean i don't think there's i don't think there's any way to avoid that you're gonna upset a customer eventually the customer is not always right predetermined as well sometimes the customer is a fucking idiot and sometimes they're just mad already before you even pick up the phone yeah sometimes it's nothing personal i mean that honestly is probably the best piece of advice I think my aunt ever gave me is that everyone has baggage is the way that she kind of put it. And you know what?

Some people have more baggage than other people and carrying it is really tiring for them. And that's not your fault. You know, you need to be empathetic. You need to try your best to understand their position. But beyond that people will absolutely dump on you though it but it's not your job to carry their baggage yeah and um and i think that that's probably the the best way for you to kind of think about that is hey look this is um i can't take this personally right now. I got to recognize that in good faith,

I did my best here and maybe I did screw up, but if we are both trying to get along, you know, the most important thing is trying to reach a resolution and getting angry is not going to, not going to change anything about it. Maybe that person doesn't understand that, or maybe they're not in a state of mind right now where they're able to think about it that way.

But whatever the case is, I just got to recognize that this is not my baggage. This is not my burden to carry. And I got to just keep being me and keep being my best self. That's what I would recommend, because it will happen. It'll happen. Hi, LTT Crew from Oklahoma.

What's up? I was wondering when the Noctua Edition screwdriver would be released and will there possibly be a stubby version? We've been asked about additional colorways for stubby. I think that in the very long term, we'd love to just find a way to handle lots of different colors or whatever you could buy a pre-loaded you know hex one and it would be you know whatever the like hex sort of industry standard color is are there colors

that correspond hey tyne i can't remember on the screwdrivers is it that the colors correspond to the size or the bit type he's gone well great perfect um cool anyway you know i i would love to have all kinds of you know different options or do like fun little drops you know here's here's 69 lambo edition ones or whatever right um but right now we have to focus our manufacturing capacity, which, if you're regular viewers will know, is a lot of it here. No, not him. You're not the manufacturing capacity.

No, I have an answer. Oh, all right. Red, Phillips screwdriver. Okay, so it's by bit type. Blue, Phillips screwdriver, often used for electrical work. Green, torque screwdriver used for electronics and appliances are you really going to go through this whole thing i was going to yeah sure i'm you know what i'm actually here for it yellow flathead screwdriver black magnetic screwdriver orange insulated screwdriver used for electrical

work to prevent electrical shock and silver precision screwdriver used for small electronics and devices all right well we probably won't be following this key but we'll we'll do something um the point is right now we need to focus our manufacturing capacity on the few SKUs that we're bringing out. But in the longer term, yeah, we'd love to do all kinds of things. What I said last time people asked

about different colorways on the Stubby is, yeah, we'd love to, but we need to see the Stubby be a big success in the standard colors, and then we'll consider bringing in additional colors because your additional colors are always going to be some proportion of what you would sell in black.

I have yet to see any evidence, whether it's t-shirts or sweatshirts or screwdrivers or anything. I've yet to see any evidence to support that some other color will sell more than black. I want to throw something into the ring. The swim trunks. Yes.

Black still outsold? You know what? I would have to go back and look at... I'd have to go back and look at the launch'd have to go back and look at the launch and i don't remember when we launched it because we've sold through all of them so if i just look at right a huge time period it's just gonna say however many we ordered it was sold um i feel like that would be the best bet yeah if anyone remembers when we launched the swim trunks i i can't look it up right now um post it in the chat, and then I'll go find it.

I'll let you guys know. All right, Dan, hit us. Sure thing. Love you guys. Have you heard of sending HDMI signals through a box of, I guess, Ethernet to get high-quality audio video over long distances? No fiber optic wires needed.

HDBaseT. Yes, it's super cool. We actually did a video showing that. The title was quite clickable, so it might not be the most obvious thing for you guys to find, but I think I remember what I was, I think I remember what it was called. Weirdest graphics card or something like that. Digital signals are great.

Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh. You just do stuff with it. There it is. Man, man, I'm good. Here it is. This GPU, super cool. It has ethernet jacks on the back because that functionality is built right into it.

That's cool. Yeah, super neat, right? I think we still have the 6x100 meter spool of cable that we use to do the demo because it's too valuable to throw away, but it's too impractical to use because it's like this crazy stiff, thick, armored cable or something. I don't know, it's bizarre. Oh stiff thick armored cable or something i don't know it's bizarre oh oh oh when when uh knocked to a screwdriver i think maybe sometime in the nice all right is that the three no hold on he's he's looking i'm actually looking but yeah you can do another one

you want four sure um this is just it's more merch stuff let's see uh uh okay well i got one here for luke sure uh dear lld first off hi dan hope you're having a great day second off linus go yourself third now that i've got your attention of course i bleeped it luke uh what's the thing the biggest allowed to discuss bug on floatplane uh i hope i bleeped it i test my button that's fine if i see no evil i can also neither hear nor speak it i don't know uh i i don't feel like it's really been that bad um we've had a lot of issues with our transcoding system for a really long time but we're kind of out of those

waters now um not only did we more or less fix the transcoding system that we have but the new one which is going to be awesome but the new one is like very near completion and should be in pre-production before the end of the year so um yeah but that was a that was a big issue earlier this year but yeah i think we're mostly out of that now i think that was that's probably the biggest problem we've had that was like long running i don't know oh speaking of flow plane we apparently have two flow plane exclusive videos where tynan talks about the metal screwdriver in more detail and one where the creator warehouse team looks over the mining backpack that one's coming out next tuesday so the screwdriver one's already there and then the creator warehouse team looked at the backpack i'm glad they did that before i put a hole in it yeah mind you it might

merit a follow-up video if uh if depending on what we find we'll have we'll have to see tynan ran off with it like right away so yeah it doesn't surprise me. Tynan, Tynan, he's, he's good. He takes stuff serious. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be clear when I, when I single out Tynan, that doesn't necessarily mean that I am saying that the rest of the team is not good.

You know, I like hamburgers. You hate hot dogs. No, no, no. I love them all. I'll eat one hot dog and one hamburger.

I'll do it right now. I'll eat them both at the same time um i i i just mean that doesn't surprise me at all that he immediately went where he has more access to tools or whatever else all right why don't we what do you want to do now what are we what are we supposed to be doing we were asking about the noctuous screwdriver timeline oh right yes i did look that up uh here's the last update that i have from nick uh 24 000 people have signed up for a notification when it's in stock historically the conversion is obviously not 100 but that's good um boxes are expected to be complete in early December, then it's just pending shipping of boxes. And screwdrivers, maybe?

No? I'm not sure. Maybe the screwdrivers are done. Boxes, for sure, though. We need to get that done. Yeah. So you will not be getting a Noctua screwdriver for Christmas, which is unfortunate. What are you doing because they look so cool uh these are my these are my hex my metric my imperial hex wait you have a this is my standard bit set i never thought about doing that oh my gosh torx i still i still really like the custom screwdriver that you and i made that one night i love it we made one that looks like a toy oh yeah

yeah yeah yeah it's actually awesome yeah every time i use it at home i'm like this is sweet this is dope there's no you can never get like really high quality products in that type of a color scheme like it actually looks like a kid's toy but then it's a yeah it's it's great i love it we would love in the longer term to have a byos you know build your own screwdriver configure it thing i think that it's something we may be able to achieve at some point i haven't talked about this much but we have fixed shaft screwdrivers coming oh there's been a ton of work uh robert from the creator warehouse team has been heading that up and it's more challenging than you would think because we are not just taking some screwdriver set from some factory and silk

screening our logo on it that's not good enough for us. We are creating something really special. We are going to be using a very similar ergonomic shape compared to our ratcheting driver. But obviously the shafts are going to be thinner so that you can get into places that a multi-bit screwdriver simply can't get me to fit they won't ratchet they're going to have an overgrip because we don't have to fit all the bits inside so there's enough room to do um a multi-mold process uh so we'll have like a harder hard inner mold and then a softer outer mold but not soft soft we want something that's like you know got a little bit of grip to it feels nice in the hand but is is not going to wear out

uh we're going to have um these little kind of um butt plugs well they go on the butt of the screwdriver and they're a plug so they're end plugs end plug let's call them end plugs they go on the butt of the screwdriver and they're a plug. So they're end plugs. Let's call them end plugs. They plug into the end. So we'll have these end plugs that are going to be modular. And the reason for that is not because you will want to or even be able to take them out, but because the idea is that we are going to have the final assembly of the screwdrivers be somewhat modular oh i i believe we are leaning towards uh forged um forged shafts uh there's

i'm trying to think if there's like anything else to really say about it but the cool thing about the way that we're developing this product is that we're going to only warehouse shafts handles and end plugs so the idea is that if you wanted a longer shaft or if you wanted um a number one phillips with a bigger handle or a smaller handle we're gonna have five different handle sizes um or if you wanted um you customize a fixed screwdriver as well exactly so you could kind of create your own ultimate fixed shaft screwdriver set for your needs and have it match all your other screwdrivers assuming that you just get them all from LTT store and there would be no reason not to

because they're going to be flipping awesome. The smallest handle size is kind of down to almost precision territory because remember we do have a precision driver coming for that really fine work. And then the biggest one is actually bigger than this one. It's like, you know a like a number three flat head you know like yeah like the handle on one of those and it'll you know the manufacturer says don't use it as a pry bar but like it can do it what else are any what else is anybody doing with um oh are we still alive what twitch chat saying f oh it's back all right cool uh anyway

really excited about those i forget what the point of what i was talking about was but it's gonna be great uh what are we supposed to be oh yeah topics are they hot ones oh oh man okay this is really turning into the merch show but dan not you producer of the h3 podcast ironically yeah i was like what every every podcast has a dan they're all named dan oh recently called the ltt screwdriver hey do do they have my audio they should they they can is that is that oh on your laptop sorry is that a thing that can be had uh yeah i'm not hearing anything from you okay got it now ready you got it now it now? Yeah. Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go.

Do you want to be able to hear it? All right. Yes. Good. Let me see if I can get through it to you. You're going to hear some slapback, though. Okay, play it. Are you playing it?

I'm not getting audio from you, then. Okay. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, it was. The last time. Oh, wow. I definitely hear what you're calling slapback that is uh it's muted in the player pretty rough is it i think so there's your problem right there all right cool ready oh by the way shout out

dang it no yeah i wonder i wonder if uh their dan versus, you know, their Dan would be able to get audio to the whole studio. No, no, no. You're not sending me audio. You're doing a great job, Dan. Play the video! Now we're hearing it. You're not, but... I mean, why aren't you? They can hear it. Some people are mad at them, yeah. People are mad at them? He still has pretty good audio, yeah. People are mad at them? He still has pretty quiet.

Listen. Just chill. How many times? Okay. Is there? Okay, hold on, hold on. Okay, I have an idea. I have an idea.

You're going to hate it. Are you ready for this? Oh, my. I've got it now. You sure? You can play it now. Jeez. I was just going to hold my phone up to the mic. You sure? You can play it now. Jeez. I was just going to hold my phone up to the mic. You just got to threaten him with that.

Yeah, it's amazing how quickly he'll figure it out when you offer up a janky solution. I'm going to plug in a GoXLR, Dan. Okay, we ready? Oh, by the way, shout out. Just quiet your side. Or maybe not. Are they going to cancel this?

I mean, they had a... I'm not in that world. What they canceled or something? What happened? I'm not in that world. What happened to Linus? Some people are mad at them, man. People are mad at them? He still has credentials, though. Don't shout out.

Listen. This is the only influencer product I've ever bought in my life. Oh, really? It's Linus' screwdriver, and this genuinely is such an awesome screwdriver. What's so good about it? Just really well made. It's a ratchet screwdriver. This man is such an awesome screwdriver. What's so good about it? Just really well made. It's a ratchet screwdriver. This man is selling screwdrivers. He's selling screwdrivers.

And then in the bottom, it's got bits in there. I've never seen that. It's pretty slick. Nice. So, yes, this is an official Linus Tech Tips collaboration here. Thank you, Linus. Sweet. Heck, yeah. Is he building a computer? I don't know doesn't matter so cool You don't have to build a computer with the LTC screwdriver you do anything

It's actually when you try to do something else. There's like a proper that comes up. It's incompatible You should try it out buy one test it. I Really like the idea of buying four or five to store all their different bit types in i am definitely doing that that is a genius idea i never thought about doing that the flex i when did you think of doing that oh immediately i just had to wait for us to make more colors of it why didn't yeah you should advertise that on the store oh my goodness well like i said i want it yeah of course i want to do that you know just have like do a four pack yeah you can buy a set and they're

all different colors so you can immediately go straight to the right set of bits right because 16 bits or excuse me 12 bits that's that's not enough for me you know as an owner of four or five i will be doing this immediately as As Hannibal from Floatplane Chat. Yeah, I mean, even if you have all the same color ones, you could just put like a thing of tape around them or whatever else, and then they're color-coded. Boom, you're good. Apparently, people in Floatplane Chat say I'm wrong

because they use it for things other than building computers. But I still think you should test it. Well, they could be lying. They're biased. They're Floatplane Chat. They're the most hardcore. Yeah, you guys should still test it. Okay right let's um let's talk about fake women who got a conference canceled yeah yeah yeah way to go fake women online developer conference

dev ternity is that correct ternity Sure. Has been cancelled after several tech executives withdrew as speakers, citing the revelation that its organizer, Edwards Sizovs, has apparently been making up fake female professionals to list as speakers at his conferences, including fake biographies, credentials, photos, and social media accounts. The motivation seems to have been to trick male speakers who would otherwise refuse to attend on the grounds that the speaker list was not inclusive the conference was scheduled to have over a thousand attendees with admittance costing from 435 dollars to 870 dollars some of these dev conferences are really expensive yeah that's wild at least one of the fake women julia cursina

appears to be a direct uh sock puppet and her social media accounts frequently post the same content as the organizer's own accounts verbatim albeit with the addition of flirtatious photos and emojis very cool uh Her posts go back to 2019. The organizer claims that the second fake female speaker, Anna Boyko, was a demo persona from their test website that was mistakenly included in the speaker list. Yeah, sure, whatever. He further stated, this year, despite our attempts, we've achieved a worse than expected level of diversity of speakers. There have been thousands of events chasing the same small subgroup of female speakers. Okay, now hold on a second. Can we pause for a minute here?

Find a different one? Find a different what, sorry? Like, woman to speak at your event. Oh, uh, yeah. I think his point is that there isn't enough okay so then making up fake ones is the solution yeah i don't know uh one reason why this may have gone unnoticed at previous events is because of the relatively low number of women both fake and real attending these conferences only four women were supposed to speak at devternity and only two appear to be fake um further only two appear to be real i guess is what that was meant to be read

yeah i mean it's true either way so hold on sorry i i'm gonna let you finish but um was he not expecting people to notice i'm assuming you just call like a last minute call out situation. Is this, is, is that the real takeaway here that he's been pulling this con for years? Pun intended. And no one has gone. Yeah.

Wow. No one has gone. Wow. I saw her on the speaker list. I want to see her talk. Wait a minute. where is she and figured this out before so is that the actual problem well well no so okay as i expected reading reading forward uh one of the real women dropped out due to medical issues they actually only had one real

one and in previous years it appears that the small number of fake professionals would cancel at the last minute which would appear to the observers as a coincidence rather than deliberate fraud so yeah they would just have them cancel and then they'd be like oh sorry guys not all the panel presenters are able to make it and then you just have but most of them do and you paid a thousand dollars to come here anyways so hope you enjoy the snacks i don't know wow okay our discussion question um while organizers clearly shouldn't be making up fake speakers for the sake of appearances is there a genuine supply issue when it comes to prominent female speakers in tech okay so this there's two answers to this right when it comes to prominent female speakers in tech i mean yeah like you could obviously find them you know dr lisa sue or something but does she want to talk at your

event or is she busy is she busy kicking the ass of a company that's 10 times their size yeah not even development anyway so are there prominent you know women in tech sure yes are they busy maybe do all of them want to come talk at your freaking event should someone else have an opportunity and is is it possible that you know the other ones don't want to speak at your event because it's like uh it's almost like a like a chicken and egg thing. Like, do they feel... I wouldn't be too surprised if there was some camaraderie amongst the female presenters that do these events and they might communicate about what events are cool.

Yeah, I could see that. I have no idea, but it just kind of makes sense to me um creators talk you know i'm sure it's not that different for um people that host events talking events stuff like that shraft 2k says so tired of the sue simping well then you know maybe sorry next time he'll be into leather jackets and expensive kitchens like yeah maybe intel should try you know being competitive i mean it's an idea it's an idea what it's a it's why would you laugh that's a that's a real idea that's good maybe you should talk you know what no i'm i'm gonna call them right now you can say look if you don't want us to talk about how great amd is doing under

the leadership of dr sue then maybe you should compete better yeah okay hold on let me just good idea um in and i mean it's all numbers how do i how do i dial intel is it t9 role playing is a boomer oh man anyway um you know i gotta admit i don't i don't have solutions to these problems i um yeah i i want there to be them but like oh i just got added i i organized a conference yes apparently it's a thing added to what uh no they like at oh added um you're role playing as boomer sorry yes yes what i don't remember what the question was to my like they they probably talk to each other about what events are cool oh yeah okay that wasn't really a question yeah um okay yeah pokemane's a prominent woman in gaming not tech yeah this is a developer conference this is like you know what this is

like when people when people say that and she probably doesn't want to go talk there anyway this is like when people say that i run a tech company yeah i do you do well okay that's a different company i mean i'm he runs a clothing company he's still running okay stop but that's not what they're talking about that's like when people say accurate things about me no no no they don't linus liked hamburgers i'm going to twitter right now i mean x i mean tell them all okay oh man okay okay the point is when people are referring to linus media group i Group and they say that I run a tech company, seriously, the number of people that have made business pitches to me, you know, saying that I could, you know, help assist them or asking if I have any, you know, advice has the, okay. I put my own name in the name. Okay.

I put everyone else in the name and then I put, and then I put media in the name. How could I be more explicit? Yeah. But you literally had a software startup. Yeah, I know. I mean, did I have it start up or did I have it just kind of float there wow boom roasted i mean i was told when we were starting it like you know when you guys are ready i'm so excited i'm gonna

i'm gonna like do the business side of this and then i wanted to yeah it was really busy oh man i mean in fairness to floatplane guys the tech is super cool it is very good and the supporters over there are absolutely amazing shout out floatplane chat right now um it is self-sufficient and i've told luke this before floatplane did what I thought was impossible. Floatplane built a completely self-funded dev team within our company that has allowed us to do all kinds of incredible things, many of which you haven't seen yet. But you will. You will someday. And it's awesome. And all of it, all of it is possible because of the float plane supporters that we have so you know what shout out you guys you are the real mvp dank pod likes he likes it a lot

dank pods is he's a he's a fan yeah we legitimately do have actual creators on the platform other than ourselves as well yeah it's just they have to be realistic creators that understand and appreciate the value of float plane the value is not that you're going to get the best possible revenue split because that's not how this works we are self-funded we have to we're privately held we have to actually make money this is not just we can burn vc money we and just create a large user base without caring about sustainability our our our revenue share is i believe competitive with uh youtube memberships and and with twitch but compared to some other services that for example

don't pay for their own video hosting yeah it's not going to look as competitive but the difference is that we're never going to rug pull you because it's sustainable right so we have a new channel on the platform too and there's really cool stuff okay i'm gonna tell you about that in a second and there's really cool stuff about the platform that not everyone appreciates not everybody cares that you know the sound quality is better dank pods does it's very nice on stream matters a lot to him yeah especially when he's streaming it's really hard to have a drum stream sound good when your audio is all compressed to heck we don't even necessarily know why we didn't do a lot for that well yeah people come to the stream all the time and they're like it's great it's like okay but luke that's exactly it we didn't

do anything i mean i'll take it we didn't kill it sometimes that's all you have to do is not make it worse actively we get comments about that like literally all the time and it's it's always surprising to me i don't watch a lot of streams though so like but also known as none so do we have any idea why the twitch stream keeps going down because flow plane's not and youtube's not if youtube and flow plane are not then like oh that's weird but yeah james channel james channel is now on flow plane you might recognize that reference maybe i don't know possibly if you have watched uh what is it called on youtube it's it's the trash networks car channel which i believe is garbage time yeah yeah yeah yeah there we go so garbage

time he's the he's the mechanic for dank pods on garbage time and now he has his own channel on floatplane oh super cool doing stuff with video games i am apparently not subscribed yet old video games retro video games super cool checking out electronics brand new release from mcdonald's heck yeah i mean yeah it's definitely gotta yeah these guys have a vibe they got a shtick yeah oh i wonder if i'm allowed to you know what uh i'm i'm going for it i'm going for it um did you know that someone is traveling is that is that can't subscribe oh yeah he has no public yeah apparently we're hanging out is that common knowledge today so i was like oh uh sure yeah dank pod's coming to town yeah yeah it's gonna be great sick yeah because something we made our own

headphones he's gonna he's gonna help us uh he's gonna help us review them no no i don't mean we developed a product okay i mean we made headphones all right yeah it's gonna be good adam was involved so uh you you know that the build quality is gonna be on par with what adam and i build i love uh i was told i was told to set james channel's channel public um and it's there and you can see it and you can see all the content, but he didn't set up any plans so you can't subscribe. I'm going to have to tell him to go in and set some plans. Nice job onboarding there, Luke. I did what I could.

I got to set up the plans. I mean, if 100% of the users you onboarded this week screwed it up then is it really on them yeah that's a good point that is honestly a pretty good point uh okay another topic i want to talk about the d brand case to fight situation all right so this source one is what is this source one is on twitter twitter mango parade at d brand i work at best buy got an internal notice that case defies ripoff products are being recalled countrywide don't sell recall withdrawn iphone 14 pro case defy oh interesting i wonder if this is best buys own initiative or if this is case defy trying to get these things back what is

that text don't sell dash recall slash misspelling of withdrawn. Don't sell. Recall slash withdrawn. Yeah. Okay. All right. Casetify says it is investigating the allegations of copyright infringement leveled by dbrand and Zach from JerryRigEverything, as well as a DDoS attack that disrupted our website when the allegation surfaced. DDoS attack that disrupted our website when the allegation surfaced.

Are you really expecting sympathy right now? Also, pro tip. Don't complain about a DDoS. Oh. I did think, like, what are you going gonna come up with with your investigation? If I was gonna write a manual, okay? If I was gonna write a manual,

Leave that bear alone. for how to not for how to not, not get DDoSed, it would be to say No, it's just Please don't DDoS me. That would be that would be step one in the manual oh boy it made me so sad

but yeah my thing is like what they think they're going to come up with like it was definitely deep red who ddost us like what do they what do they think this is going to result in no it wasn't gonna result in no it wasn't uh yeah um they claim that case defy has always been a bastion of originality and they hold pride in that that's cool um d brand has been one heck of a can in the whole time so i think it makes sense and really cannons attacking bastions you like to send it um case defy withdrew its line of inside out cases from sale on its own site last week but they were still available for sale in person and online via best buy this week i suspect it was case to fight that called the pack that kind of makes sense um our discussion question this is great who the hell begins their copyright claim investigation with we have always been a

bastion of originality when the alleged i added this part alleged crime is this obvious the guilty castify that's the full list the allegedly guilty that's the thing this is this is brutal dude yeah this is absolutely brutal i can't i can't i mean here's the thing i i think if they apologize it's an admission of guilt whereas if they don't they can still fight it so that's like i i don't know exactly how the legal system works even here i haven't really been embroiled in a lot of legal troubles um anyway um and i especially don't know how the legal system works in other jurisdictions but my understanding is that uh you know anything you say can and will be used against you in a

court of law and if they were to say something like we're sorry we infringed on you let's we're going to pull them down now then if d brand and zach were not just all like okay we chill now then their case would become even more open shut than it already appears to be so i i doubt they have a choice with respect to you know apologizing and admitting their errors um at least from like uh protecting themselves from legal damages standpoint but they definitely didn't have to say that they were a bastion of originality so i guess that's where we're at on that oh interesting in ontario there apparently is an apology act which is the kind of thing you would have in canada which makes it so that saying sorry isn't an admission of guilt

hashtag sorry i mean remember that this is this is canada this is this is canada here okay sorry sorry is just it's we bump into other people at the airport and we're like or sorry other people bump into us at the airport and we're like sorry sorry sorry sorry for being in your way in the way of you i'm sorry my face was where your elbow needed to be like in canada can also be a question i don't know if that's a thing in other places in the world a question like sorry yeah no that's a thing like hello yeah that's that's totally a thing right i don't know might be i don't know i was a i was a what kid what um and one of my yeah yeah one of my friends was a um a pardon excuse me i beg your pardon and i started doing it to mock him

and now i'm 100 on like pardon yeah you do that i'm very i'm i'm so sorry i didn't hear you like i've the more the funny thing with linus is like the more, how do you say it? I beg your pardon? The more like appropriately he words it, the absolute, like it's, it's maybe even it's logarithmic. I'm not sure, but it's, it's more sassy. No, it's, it's just habit now. I don't even mean it. Oh, it scales a little bit. It started sassy and it started that sassy.

Yeah. But like. Has it toned down? Maybe I just haven't been paying luke i don't even think about it i'll hear myself say i'll hear myself say it too though but but i'm not even but i'm not even sassy a lot of those reflex gunners i just didn't really i just didn't hear you and i'm sorry for that begging your pardon sir okay that there i'm being sassy that's my point though if he if he that is the most sassy thing i've ever had see please sir i beg your pardon

get out of here oh my goodness and get out of here nvidia you're no longer a graphics company yeah apparently what does that even mean i'll tell you training this direction for a long time according to nvidia vice president of corporate marketing greg estes speaking to reporter uh stephen witt the decision to pivot to ai happened incredibly quickly shortly after the rise of chat gpt ceo jensen huang sent out an email one friday evening saying everything is going to deep learning and we are we're no longer a graphics company. By Monday morning, we were an AI company. Literally, it was that fast, which is obviously complete bullshit.

NVIDIA has been moving towards GPU compute. Just everything changed. Everything. We woke up and we were like whoa yeah the air even feels different in here it's remarkable that you got blindsided by this because the rest of us have been talking about it for years um but hey oh man it's cool that you guys finally said the quiet part out loud yeah that was how wit referred to estes's statement around the same time nvidia's leading ai researcher who i assume they hired uh right when they made this decision because why would

they have an ai researcher if they were a graphics company before so they just they pivoted so fast um brian catanzaro said that uh huang approached him and told him, quote, to imagine he'd marched all 8,000 of NVIDIA's employees into the parking lot. Then he told me I was free to select anyone from the parking lot to join my team. That's so wildly overdramatic. Yeah, that's like not actually how that works anyway. That's like Bollywood. And then it turns into a giant dance number yeah and then like some jeep comes like flying over somebody's riding on the hood like yeah let's go i'm the one that's gonna be sorry okay

what does this mean for desktop graphics did you and i make the switch to team red just in time to not have a choice anymore yeah i mean i suspect they'll still make GPUs. Why bother? Yeah, keep the fabs or something else. Not everybody stays in the consumer space. I mean, okay, obviously, this is a much, much smaller scale example. But I think consumers in general, particularly enthusiasts, tend to overestimate their own importance. I think they tend to overestimate the size and strength of the

enthusiast market and obviously gaming has grown a lot but i think to consumers dfi for example died you know 15 years ago or 10 years ago or whenever whenever they whenever they stopped making sad day motherboards i like dfi except for one small detail they never stopped making motherboards dfi still exists today every once in a while i will walk past the dfi booth at a trade show and be like oh yeah diamond flower international sorry excuse me design for innovation that was a That was a retcon back in the day. Yeah, oh, IBM. Yeah, IBM is a great example.

They even pulled out their sub-brand. Yeah. They got rid of Lenovo. Yep. See you later. And so, why not? Why doesn't NVIDIA just go, AI is the future. See you. And so why not? Why, why doesn't Nvidia just go,

yep. AI is the future. Why don't we just buy every possible wafer and turn it into AI accelerators? Because it's probably worth more than gold and just be the entire AI future of the entire planet. And let AMD and Intel fight over like these, like tiny scraps, gamers yeah like bow to their you know complaining about your prices they complain about your your product they complain about everything you know and and to be clear i'm not saying the complaints aren't valid i'm just saying that it's a lot less challenging from a day-to-day

standpoint not from an engineering standpoint but from a day-to-day standpoint having just a handful of customers that you can engage with meaningfully one-on-one who have big money compared to having a whole bunch of customers that are gonna that are gonna hate you no matter what you do no matter how good of a deal you give them i don't think that that last part is necessarily true but i could see how nvidia might kind of perceive it that way these days you know from their point of view moore's law is dead and you should accept it and we're giving you the best we can deal with it um you know i'm sorry you're mad essentially right yeah um but it's not like we didn't like them when we felt like we were you know getting a lot from them but you know, I'm sorry, you're mad essentially. Right. Um, but it's not like we didn't like them when we felt like we were, you know, getting a lot from them, but you know,

really it's not that we're not still getting stuff. It's just that we're not getting what we're accustomed to. And that's really, that's really challenging. Um, that makes us feel, you know, not, not taken seriously. And I guess, yeah, I don't think, I don't think Nvidia does take the gaming market nearly as seriously as it used to. And I think you can see thatIA does take the gaming market nearly as seriously as it used to, and I think you can see that evidenced in the way that NVIDIA talks about it. Yeah, it sucks.

Because it's not like I don't like the products, right? I mean, Zbiggie says, what's the percentage of their business that's graphics? Microsoft has about 8% of their revenue from Xbox, so if they keep a division that's eight percent why wouldn't nvidia keep graphics i'm look it's possible yeah but they'll keep graphics forever and they'll and they'll you know eventually turn into kind of uh you know a scrappy subdivision or whatever the case may be i don't think you can do that comparison either though but we're talking fab capacity well not just not it's not just fab

capacity it's also just the um i don't know it's almost just like the will it's like the it's like the the the interest you know i i haven't i haven't spent a ton of time talking to jensen i've only met him i I think, a couple times. But from interviews, from watching him talk, from those handful of interactions, he's a super passionate guy. I'm sure. Every story I've heard about him,

he's super, super passionate. I've heard him described as the kind of boss where he can be hyper assertive and swoop in and act like he can do your job better than you can. And what makes you most infuriated is the fact that he fucking can. And it's like, okay, well, what do I do now? Because I've been, you know, like, like I've heard him described that way. I've also heard him described in other less favorable ways. But the point is, everything aligns with this perception that he's extremely passionate.

And he's clearly passionate about AI now. And their leadership very much flows from the top down. Yeah. And so, you know what? Yeah, maybe gaming, you know, does continue to get some attention over there, but maybe it doesn't.

Because remember too, it's not just about what percentage of your overall business it is. Sometimes it's about what looks better to your shareholders. And gaming margins are pretty crappy compared to workstation margins, compared to enterprise margins.

And you know what? Yeah, they might like the volume. You know, that might ultimately result in bigger volume discounts for their real products that they make margin on when they're booking with a, you know, a TSMC or who knows, someday maybe Intel's, you know, fab business or something like that.

But I just, all I'm saying is I don't think it's a guarantee. Yeah. but i don't i just all i'm saying is i don't think it's a guarantee yeah ceos are infinitely replaceable i don't get the focus on them says siginth that's super not true that's actually like super not true think about it this way i think we can all agree that a bad CEO can destroy a company. QED. That was it. Yep. That's it.

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I will have a look. Nobody asked them about you. Now, there's a couple of good ones in here. Sure. luke any thoughts on world of warcraft classic season of discovery i hadn't played classic before but it's been a blast finding and sharing new things with everyone yeah my uh my brother and a buddy of mine played last night actually um it's the only time i had this entire week. So it was convenient because it came out yesterday. It's pretty cool. I am intentionally, the whole idea is the discovery word, right? So I've intentionally been going in pretty blind, not trying to look things up, just trying to play it and see what's going on. And it seems neat so far.

I don't have a lot else to say. I haven't played a ton. We'll see how it goes. So the whole idea, if you haven't heard of it, is they have like a progressing level cap. So it's classic with some changes through this rune system that you can look up if you care. And then the initial level cap is all 25.

And there's like, they turned some dungeon into a raid or something, and we can go do that. And there's other new gear and things are cool, but it's like, it's like a, a different experience, but in the wow classic environment, which is a cool concept. I feel like they took a lot of lead from, um, like runescape who's done very similar things. Uh, just like they took a lot of lead from runescape when they made wild classic at all um so they're just just taking more leaves from that book but yeah

it was good luke as a software developer why do you not share the programmer's pessimism perspective to large language model ais the last 10 is always the hardest and longest part for example self-driving cars yeah when did i not say that i have no idea this anonymous person thinks that you think like that yeah do you think like that no um i think i think i'm probably less pessimistic about where it's at now that might be where the confusion's at. I've said a number of times on WAN Show that I think it's, like, really far away from being 100%, like, many years probably. The hallucination problem is going to stick around for, like, a hot minute.

Do you think it'll get worse? Because you're seeing self-feeding data now. Yeah, there's a lot of potential for that. We'll have to see if they can find some tricks to try to stop that from happening. It felt like it kind of did at one point already. It's hard to measure. It's very hard to measure.

But yeah, no. Yeah, finishing this thing is going to be a problem. I said in one of the first streams that we ever covered AI stuff, that's of course where we ended up um that like shipping products around this was going to be incredibly difficult and take a very long time um and that has proven to be the case okay and let's see we got one more here for linus nice i'm just in time you're just in time it would have been awkward if you'd read one for Linus while I wasn't here. With my kids deciding to plant my screwdriver bits, thanks for the restock, and needing

to... Plant them? Like in the garden. I mean, that's one way to get more. Yeah. That's one weird trick. And needing shipment to Australia. What's the most expensive thing

your kids have broken or lost wow my kids are actually super careful um like i like my son got his first phone at, I think eight, um, seven or eight still has it perfect condition. Um, I'm trying to think, what did they, what did they have? That's it. They all, Oh, they almost broke something very expensive. The, uh, the Sony OLED TV and the family room, uh, my girls while it was just sitting in the like the base of the tv packaging while it was just sitting there they knocked the whole thing over um it lived not a scratch whoa i i gave them it was a miracle that it wasn't broken because that was thousands of dollars yeah um so that's

the i think the closest that they've gotten to breaking something very significant i mean they do damage to the house and stuff but yeah so a lot of that's just gonna happen that's just that's that's pretty much wear and tear yeah uh yeah i'd say that's the worst they ever did i i thought you were going to take the approach of like you've kind of colloquially called some of your employees kids before oh they've broken stuff yeah don't imagine for a second that i'm the only one who's ever broken anything around here i'm just the only one who is on camera when it happens and catches the blame yeah yeah i i 100 thought it was going to your floor

anyways i think that was the third we move on that was the third topics yeah okay um what what what is this legally distinct tech vtubers i don't know what that is from zola i don't really want to click on that stuff hey linus click this well i'm gonna do it oh my goodness uh is that you and me yep let's go i got lena sebastian flyboat flyboat media that's great lucy levelure that's a really good name actually that's actually sick oh okay it's like a stage name that's dope that's a great great name wow uh cool i that's not what i was expecting to look at today you're actively dropping a gpu i think i'm throwing it yeah yeah i know i'm down with that yeah um

i think it's great i would vtuber with that persona i would 100 do that oh what is this is this a video also dan wait what no way no way no way is it wait for it legally distinct tech show producer what's up oh no I love the little like anime sweat bead thing oh no that totally fits I have one of those like turtleneck

sweater things too very similar that is very cool I'm flattered great job you've done this oh yours has earrings yeah that that doesn't surprise me they are they are shockingly on point they're actually really good i genuinely really like mine that's cool don't say wood get out of here leave it alone

that's that's me that's literally me you can't say that come on oh all four of you i feel i feel protective of my little avatar now lucy don't make don't go after Lucy. Leave Lucy alone. Oh, no. Floatplane, why? Leave Lena alone, too. She's lawless. Oh, my. Wow.

Okay. Okay. All right. Let's move on. Microsoft Paint Plus. Now with Dolly. Oh, no way. We get to try it? Yay. The Windows 11 Paint Plus. Now with Dolly. Oh, no way. We get to try it?

Yay. The Windows 11 Paint app. Oh. Now has an integrated co-creator text-to-image generator feature. Yeah, so is this all users, or is this just like early access people? Pre-release. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Hey, Luke, want to play a game? Sure. It's called MS Paint. it's the best game okay if people from people from our era um that's actually a thing when when you didn't have the internet no i want it come on lena why are you taking it come on i want the talk in the chat can i just have it here okay you do it let them in the chat. Can I just have it here? Okay, you do it. Let him have it, Lena. Can I just have it?

It's playing audio. It's playing audio. Yeah, because you unplugged the HDMI, so the audio device reset. Dan told me to unplug the HDMI. Yeah, but there's other steps included in that process. Figured out, Lena. Trying to make things smooth. Trying to make things smooth.

Sorry, Luca, or whatever your name is. Lucy, get it right. Sorry, sorry, sorry. sorry i mean i only got one letter wrong it's 75 right you should totally license the design for some t-shirts that'd be a pretty specific reference but i bet you people stop i know i would stop stop is the computer not even booting? I mean, Dan prepared it, so it was a 50-50 shot from the outset.

Everything's 50-50. In this case, it either worked or it didn't. Oh, you know what? I think it's probably outputting to the external display because it's on. It's not. It's like, oh. No body pillow. It's not even on.

Stop. We have a body pillow coming Is it like a GPU all I'll say is that it's coming No, I hate it here I hate it here. It just uses the confetti design from the women's underwear and the onesie. Yeah, that makes sense.

We decided not to go anime girl with it. We thought we'd keep it. But, you know, put the CL in it You know You know with the CL Classy

Not without the CL You know Classy with an I What's going on here Dan? I don't know, the laptop won't turn on maybe take the laptop away from him and get it turned on and then bring it back my magic fingers, I touch tech, it break

Luke said this would happen did I? did you say this would happen? oh yeah, no I totally did let's go, I remember that I didn't do anything I can't explain this Oh, yeah. No, I totally did. Yeah, let's go. I remember that. I didn't do anything. No, I was... I can't explain this.

It doesn't even have Linux on it. That I know. No, this is my whole point. I was talking about how we were going to work on something, but I was like, we have to be really, really thorough about it. We should test it really thoroughly. And then before we release it, we need to hand it to Linus because everything breaks when

he touches it so that'll be our like final line of of testing sometimes things magically work when i touch them though yeah you've witnessed that but if something is currently working so my power is that i change the just functional status of things yeah yeah yeah am i. It's okay. That's really funny. That's fine. We'll do that later. Yeah. Yeah, whenever it's working.

Who cares? We can talk about how our social media team is hiring. Sure. We're hiring both a short form video coordinator and an organic content and memes coordinator. Is that really a job title here? I'll call it out right now as well. It's going to be posted up very soon i wanted to post it up this week but there was there was um it's there for reasons it's not but it'll be up sometime next week uh but we're posting a position that probably a surprising amount of you are going to be interested in and i'm kind of terrified about

the incoming applications but it is local only so that should help a lot it must be local only and you must literally right now be legally able to work in canada um so like you pretty much have to be here already to be clear but um we are hiring a like junior level one it tech support position we need some help on that team. So full-time. You're going to get some applicants. Yeah. Yeah.

Full-time, but you don't need a ton of experience. We are looking for someone that would obviously be able to construct and deconstruct computers, do some basic troubleshooting, have some basic understanding of

networks and networking, stuff like that. Lots of opportunity to learn on the job, working under like AJ and Sean and myself and with Dan. And yeah, it should be really cool. Maybe an interesting opportunity. But it is, yeah, it was a very junior position. Um, yeah, sounds mint junior mint. All right. I was like, is he being a zoomer? Nope. He's being a boomer. You're not sure which one minutes, not a thing. Junior mints. No, I just mean like mint that's mint that's that's nah that's ancient oh i don't know oh okay i'm not gonna say yeah i have no idea wait what do you mean nice zoomer talk no elijah said did i just fool him is he trying to act like how old is

he is he not zoomery anymore is he not young are zoomers old now i don't know what's the one under them i mean they're less old than us no what's the next under them is gen alpha oh wow i know right wow i mean who gets to name these things being called gen alpha yeah then what's the next one going to be sigma like wow yeah gen chad like you're just wow okay you good dan the battery was charged and then we did he says the battery was charged which oh yeah so dan did something really cool too with the the like back grid display thing that sounds like good use of time um honestly he was probably bored waiting for you yeah i was actually waiting for luke oh god i'm waiting for you. Yeah. I was actually waiting for Luke. Oh, damn. God, I'm waiting for Luke. Love it.

You guys couldn't hear his comeback. I was stuck in a meeting. Luke got roasted. I did. Like over an open fire. Yeah. He was a chestnut. If I was...

It's Christmas. What do you want? If I was... It's December now. If I was Gen Alpha, it probably wouldn't even have affected me at all. It's a fair game. Yeah. Yeah. it's december now if i was gen alpha it probably wouldn't even have affected me at all it's fair game yeah oh yeah i never checked if um elijah responded to what man the, the next AMD Ultimate tech upgrade is great. Oh, he said I'm 17, so he's like clearly

That's not true. I don't believe you. They Elijah-safed the workspace. What? So we've got work-safe signs on the stairs about maintaining three points of contact. Cover the stairs with pillows. We also provided Elijah

with a helmet. We thought it was easier to put the padding on him than to try to put the padding on everything he might touch fair enough yeah just like tape them up like pillows you guys oh yeah you got to look at the back of the laptop. Oh, sorry. Oh, that was a good use of time. Oh, I thought it said short Linus. No. Wait, what? I don't know.

I thought maybe D-Ram put him up to it because they sponsored the After Dark today. Okay, the Wanshore. Does it just say Linus Tech? Okay, oh, wow. Does this take a long time? Or is it just like you just do text entry? I wow does this take a long time or is it just like you just like do text entry you just took a long time to comprehend it because it's pretty straightforward i'm just asking if it takes a long time to program it okay

oh i don't know oh yeah it's done in after effects it took about 25 hours shut up stop it's just part of the rog tool i just mean like do you just type linus tech tips like can you do different fonts and stuff yeah this font selection you can do little animations and pictures and things like that it's neat yeah i've never played around is it already set up for the three different lines you can have up to eight okay really so the but the the lines on an angle is like a default thing yeah you have to do it exactly like this, and it kind of is frustrating.

But whatever. Okay. Okay, that seems to be working. Let's get rid of your person there. Co-creator. Okay, so here we go. I have no idea how this works. You only have 50 tokens right now.

You can see down the bottom, so don't go too crazy. Okay, so i'm gonna make luke super mad um because i'm probably gonna you know do something that you know it doesn't do or whatever and they didn't intend and then he'll be mad no i don't care just do it i'm drawing with a trackpad okay so go easy on me here uh okay i'm gonna need you're gonna use the co-creator do i make a manscape joke i'm gonna use the co-creator okay oh okay so you're gonna you're gonna draw a base scene and you're gonna ask it to like improve it or something yeah i

want like um that's cool that seems like a good use i want uh the you should ask it to add something to it While matching your art style Interesting Okay That's not something I thought of But I do like I seriously don't think it'll be able to do it What just happened? Did I not just say solid fill?

What was the point of me saying that? I'm not sure if I understand I must have done something wrong here But there, boom, got him And then, you know what? saying that i am not sure if i understand i must have done something wrong here but there boom got um and then let you know what let's do some uh let's do some little flowery flowers nice things were attempted let's put some happy little trees over there happy little flowers okay here we go that Little happy flowers. Boop. Wow. Boop, boop, boop. Boop, boop, boop. Such legally distinct petals.

Leaves? Do-do-do. Okay, I would like to add... Is that a black line with like a red outline? Is that what you just did? Getting fancy. Can you add a person? I know. Why do I, why am I so polite? Add a person to my scene in the same art style. You can be polite. It's fine.

Uh, create. Great. I just feeling it's going to struggle with the art. Yeah. There's no, there's no way. Yeah. I just want to see it like try.'s thinking for a minute wow interesting it did try okay let's try something else oh so it doesn't actually do it do you have to like drag and drop the selections over is that what's going on no that's these are styles you can select no no no the things under it these yeah I don't know because you said can you add it to it can it actually do it for you oh okay that is very surrealist I mean that's something yeah it is a

thing takes a minute huh what is that what the i mean what is that chair it's kind of like what i drew is it does that go um does that go uh between your legs or very smooth it's got it's got quite the headrest on there what about this chair though oh my huh that's a unique design i think that this would be an amazing store aicreations.com you just find things like this you you you f***ing make them oh yeah so like you make this like impossible chair because you just you route that the like black line that's on there like

through the top and you make it work it would be possible it would just be kind of sketchy that back like that's just a spike has this been done like as an art installation just like you know as a commentary on AI or whatever, just like someone creates.

People are already grabbing the domain. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure they are. It's over. I'm sure they are. What are these other ones that came up with? It does.

Hold on. Hold on a second. Did anyone, did anyone own it already? I'm sure there are people who just like already have it ready to go i hate that godaddy is like still the fastest way to check this no man that's taken that's taken yeah and creation.ca is for one cent nice i i kind of just want to look at some of this stuff what is this thing lamp like what is what is look what is this thing i don't know it looks like a desk

organizer actually what is this it looks like yeah know It looks like a desk organizer actually What is this It looks like Plushie Yeah it looks like somewhere between Eeyore and Ratatouille Yeah There's a measuring tape That's like partially out

Just on the table Is this a balloon A hard hat Popcorn bowl Impossible to say That is some art Art buster ones It's a lot of art it's really interesting seeing

the ai art within the ai art yeah it was like yeah i don't know lamp i've i guess lamp um but like worse worlds within worlds like what would an a dimensional art what would an ai draw that's pretty cool i mean it's not what i asked for but it's pretty cool like how do these i i just think it just did a photorealistic scene i don't know if it really tried yeah i think it didn't look at what you did at all like not even slightly okay well why don't we why don't we ask it for so basically then is this any different i can't does it look at what you've done at all or is it just the prompt i think it might just be a prompt there's a little information icon just to the right of describe what you want

to see yeah i wonder if that helps thanks dan no i mean i also don't know powered by dolly and a system that creates realistic images of blah blah blah if you find a creation to be unexpected or offensive send us feedback yeah so no this is just i think that first image might have been slightly offensive this is just dolly yeah i think so yeah so choose a style what's under choose a style oh oh oh in the style of anime i'm excited right now i hope i'm doing a cool stance when i do it it probably won't um i'm like narito running it won't show a specific person whoa oh oh it's just there's like there's no actual like nose the fingers just there

he's choosing where his nose is gonna go this neck thing that's going on wow those collarbones are how we doing for finger finger counting here hmm the fingers are there are six of them which is fine also this is an interesting shape yeah all right let's see the rest of them that one's like that i'm not picking but it's better yeah yeah i think it's better is that the correct amount of fingers no no i mean well i don't know it depends it depends what this thing is yeah yeah not sure what that is i think this one might be my favorite he tried to pick his nose but he missed because his eyes were closed yeah okay so wait but is this actually wait is this actually they're all kind of blonde and blue eyed yeah did it actually know who i was talking about i don't

know i can't tell um theoretically you can search the internet now, so like maybe. Okay. Do you. Luc Lafreniere from Linus Tech Tips. Oh, hold on, hold on. As an anime girl with ears, let's see how close we can get to that artwork from earlier in the show. All right. Here we go.

I'm very scared. Lucy. I don't remember the last name. It's stressful. I expect greatness. It's apparently against Dolly terms of service to do real people. Oh, well,

that didn't stop it. Okay. Hmm. Huh? That looks really. anime yeah i mean he's wearing a blue hoodie like i think i think this is actually inspired by you though yeah um that's not as close. The first one was. Whoa. Wow.

There's some stuff going on. There's some stuff going on here for sure. The cat ear things are just like behind him as well. No, no, that's the other picture. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you mean this. Yeah. Okay.

They look more like horns. Sure. Okay. Okay. I mean, see see it's funny because it's like we can't quite do that we can't have too much resemblance but like here's a black and orange hoodie yeah you know what i mean yeah here's a kind of weird neck beard so it's obviously using a very old image of you if it did use an image of you as a reference i mean that's probably what is most common you know i haven't really been in that many videos all right here we go let's see oh man there's interesting reference for this because of the the cat ear

headphones and also the fact that oh okay uh that looks very similar to one of the ones that uh-huh uh it looked like me oh that is uh whoa oh okay should have just not even had the hand up those neck muscles are pushing for that face and then you know what wow that's i think the closest we're probably gonna get here look at that right hand i mean that's a left hand but left hand yes yeah you did good um all right so uh why don't we try why don't we try one more one more thing you got any other ideas so what would this be helpful with my favorite is anything with francesco goya in the style of francesco goya ah that's sort of controversial dan is it

okay never mind then yeah i think so i don't know um okay okay hold on um uh i want to color a picture of a duck um or oh this is a good idea black and white um picture of a duck um with white spaces you should be able to ask it for paint by numbers uh well here let's just see if it can give me something to color okay so this is something i could see like a child using it for i also want to do uh i i also want to do like uh oh yeah here we go yeah okay sure that looks like perfect that one a little bit less so that one perfect weird stuff going on with the foot there but like yeah that's fine so if i was just well i just mean like that's perfect for coloring like yeah

if i was just a kid not even commenting on the fact that it has one giant one giant foot that's interesting oh it's not perfect for coloring i can't use the paint bucket oh that's unfortunate uh i mean you know it's kind of flawed it's kind of got some that art style is kind of neat though actually yeah it's cute uh man yeah that's very frustrating those zones are real small anyway there's a duck um okay i paid by numbers um i am uh uh picture of a tech youtuber background set uh with rgb lights there you know so if you were looking for some inspiration why did i leave it on anime i don't even i don't even know what i'm i don't even really know what i'm trying to do with the styles here.

Maybe that's why the eyes of the duck look that way. Oh, that would explain it. Tech YouTuber background. So that would be expensive. I mean, no, you just, you know. Ooh, a tech YouTuber. You just do it in green screen. Wow, look at the veins on this hand.

Wow. Ooh, what is this? The fingers. Yeah, the fingers are really weird. You'd think they, like, you know, would just kind of hard code that fingers can't look like that at some point. Like, okay, yeah, these are the rules of how knuckles. They're more interested in advancement at this point. Yeah, that this point yeah i think people aren't spending as much time refining and they're

just trying to move forward i mean these are not that bad there's definitely some inspiration here if nothing else they're all kind of samey which is sort of a bummer blue and red hey interesting that the background matches the wad show nice interesting that the background matches the wad show nice all right last one last one for me and then if you want to do if you want to do one more we we still can takes a little while i i get it okay that's kind of a cool vibe pretty cool actually what is on the wall what is it trying to do there's a camera there in the upper right no no no no okay i think these are supposed to be like wall-mounted computers yeah yeah and then you know obviously a speaker a joystick like what is this

thing that might just be a figurine look at this keyboard that is scuffed whoa whoa there's keys on like the front of it yeah wow all right cool what else we got here man i kind of like this speakers embedded in walls thing that it's got going on yeah yeah these you know what some of these really do immediately give me product ideas yeah like just a little rgb dot that you just like put somewhere and it's just cute and it just glows like that that's kind of awesome actually battery lasts a long time and yeah or you could plug it in or use a battery or whatever um i don't know i don't know exactly what's going on up here but boy is it ever something and i mean i think at this stage this is realistically

more along the lines of what you're going to be able to use an ai image generator for uh oh man they're doing uh close oh what's fucking uh they're doing close-up macro inspection of uh one of their systems while they listen to embedded wall speakers. Just yeah. This embedded wall speaker thing. They're pretty sick. That's actually cool. Yeah. I kind of, you know,

unironically, I like the design of this mic. It's kind of cool. Yeah. I don't know exactly how it works, but that, that stand would like never hold that. Look at this mouse.

Got the track ball or I think, I'm not sure. Keyboards are all mangled. I never realized how hard of a time it would have with keyboards. Yeah, it kind of makes sense. Do you want to ask it to just do a keyboard? We could probably do this all night. We can move on.

Yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know what? Yes, I do. All right. I do want to do that. Co-creator, what kind of keyboard would you like? I feel like I want to give it something that i'll actually be able to do um i'll just say a mechanical 10 keyless mechanical desktop keyboard mechanical keyboard not desktop just mechanical

how do you how the heck do you spell 10 keyless it's just 10 i'm just gonna put tkl key less yeah but is it one word yeah are you sure that doesn't seem right i think so i i could be wrong okay a desktop uh keyboard for gamers uh yep okay all right here we go what does a keyboard for gamers look Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go. What does a keyboard for gamers look like according to Dolly? And yes, it's one word. Cool. Photorealistic.

Yep. Okay. Cool. It's working on it. Yeah. Oh. Wow. These characters though.

I mean, I guess it makes sense. They would just make their own language Why would their language need to be Understandable by humans Yeah but Dally's supposed to be able to do Other more different fishhook Proper characters now I'm actually surprised it didn't

There's some weird extra keys at the bottom left there Prove they weren't intentional Yeah Ah wow This alphabet looks like my kids drew it Prove they weren't intentional. Yeah. Oh, wow. This alphabet looks like my kids drew it. The like depth on those keys is pretty random. Wow. These are kind of cool keycaps.

Assuming they're just random size keys. Yeah. So long that they don't move down. No legend though. You know, hardcore mode. Yeah. Dan, you're into it, right no legend oh hell yeah yeah yeah i hear you yeah a bunch of people are saying i don't know if it used the last model i i highly suspect this is a previous version of dolly um there was a number of things there that it did very poorly that i have absolutely seen the newer version do a lot better um looks like dali too

yeah it kind of feels like it the hands on modern dali are way better and modern dali can do text properly without making up like alien language got it um so yeah but i mean it's free in paint so yeah well it's free until you run out of tokens i guess but yeah it's free for a bit oh is are the tokens daily or all time i'm not sure but what i do know don't know is that we've got a few merch things to talk about that i kind of put off for a bit because we spent so much of the show talking about merch or merch things the retro driver is now available technically i think it was available a week ago but we actually never formally were like, yeah, it's available. So it's a fun retro gaming or Frieza themed color. Also, our

Philips and Torx bit sets are back in stock. Oh, that explains why we sold so many bit sets that day. We're also launching an upgraded magnetic chest strap for the backpack. Hmm. Yeah. Okay. These are super cool. Show me one of these before

not down there luke i didn't realize it was on my screen so it slides like that nice and easy oh yeah it kind of grabs itself so you don't have to like i'm gonna not look uh there we go you don't have to slide it at all when you put it together oh yeah yeah yeah it totally just grabs but try to rip it apart yeah that's not gonna work i've seen these before super cool so these are from fidlock they are not very easy this way because it's supposed to be but side to side it just is not gonna happen they are not cheap they are $19.99 uh it just goes in as a drop-in replacement for the stock chest strap which just has a more traditional i don't even know what to call it like the kind of anchor looking thing that goes into the other thing buckle uh yeah sure yeah more traditional buckle and um it's

really cool we just saw these things and we were like, oh, these are amazing. I have some people are already like, make a belt with it. That is actually where we went first. It didn't make sense. It's too bulky and like getting it through the loops is kind of a pain in the butt. And we hadn't worked on our own pants yet.

We could have made our pants Fidlock belt compatible, but then like, okay, what are we creating? Like a walled garden ecosystem of clothing that only works with each other. Yeah, it just didn't really make any sense. Do you want to buy this belt? Do you already own LTT pants? No?

Then forget it. Can't buy it. It doesn't pair properly. Also, we would like some community feedback. A substantial number of the hoodies that we ordered for LTX ended up with logos that were crooked and didn't meet our standards uh we are hoping to repurpose these hoodies by covering the ltx logo that's on them and crooked with something else one of the ideas was an updated version of

our iconic wan couch there's not really a couch in it anymore but that's okay that's a minor detail that's what it looks like actually i think it's super cool it looks pretty cool we both have beards now and we have an ugly stretched out it looks hexagon wall but hey is it true to real life yes yes i don't make the rules uh here's a mock-up of what it would look like on a Riley maybe like slightly different and less cheaply photoshopped than that but yeah basically that so let us

know guys if you'd be interested in something like that I think we only have a few hundred of them but people are saying bread bread really it would totally work I mean they're just patches like we can get different patches i guess we could just have multiple different don't tell don't tell people that you can do that don't tell people that you can get different patches i mean

it's too late convoy says vtuber girls yeah we should throw um uh lena and and Lucy at it. There you go. Why do we even do this? I know. Stop hating money. Why do I even talk to you? Actually, you guys are... Nice. The chat's just bread.

Make the spot Velcro and sell the patches on the store i hate that that's the smartest thing i've ever that's a pretty interesting idea the modular tie-dye shirt please do that you came to one of the whale lands so we have we have clothing dlc yeah let's go yeah the dlc sweater you could oh my god the patch could be the same but could go on multiple products so you could put the patch on your backpack all right finest send that email come on thank you thank you from all of us that's pretty cool i like that a lot yeah all right okay well do a merch message or something people like it and yeah i know it's pretty cool it's pretty cool that's sweet all right okay i'll give it to you and we'll do the bread just to thank you for the cool idea thank you floodplain chat patches bonus bin yeah maybe i don't know how much a patch costs i have no idea um okay uh geez yeah you can even make the velcro in a logo or pattern so that it looks

good without oh the you could do the ltt logo in velcro probably with the stitching and stuff like that that might actually not be that easy that sounds really hard yeah because you have to sew on the velcro oh it's gonna need to be just a patch probably but well could you do different colors of the velcro? So could it be like a square, but have orange LTT in the middle? Have you ever heard the term scope creep? Oh, can the Velcro have a dark mode? Oh! Oh!

Here, while Linus sends that email, I got one for you, Luke. Before you come over here and strangle me. Hello, lads. Love the content and got into IT because of LTT. Nice. If you guys had to completely rebuild your technical infrastructure from scratch, what would you do differently? This question changes a lot if you say, like,

with the information we had at the time or not, because honestly, I stand by the technical decisions that we made um but if i could have been completely clairvoyant i would have moved to typescript and react a little bit sooner um and would have not have would absolutely not have hitched my horse to sales that's the biggest one but sales looked really promising at the time and like a lot of these language or framework or platform or whatever decisions that you end up making you just kind of gotta go off what you have and when a lot of these things are maintained by companies uh in the in the case of some of them where like it's maybe it's facebook maintaining the language maybe facebook just decides we don't want this thing anymore who cares and then they'll just dump it

and then it's not going to be supportive for you anymore or uh it's a completely open source thing and the maintainer might just disappear yeah you could pick up that torch but now you're doing a wild amount more work than you originally intended to because your goal was to make this thing on top of it not it and now you're doing both you might not have enough time for that you might not have enough budget for that to be able to bring in more developers and stuff so it is what it is you're gonna make some mistakes sometimes that's how it goes i got something good for you dealerships can't shift evs around 4 000 american auto dealerships have signed an open letter asking the federal government to moderate its EV adoption targets

because they are struggling to offload an excess supply of electric vehicles, despite EV sales hitting record highs. They currently have over a 90-day supply of EVs, only a 30-day supply of internal combustion engine vehicles, and a mere two-week supply of hybrid electric vehicles. Tesla, leading seller of EVs, is not included in these numbers due to its direct to consumer model. There's a bunch of other stuff in here, but my point is I was right.

Chevy Volt. Dude. Yeah. The hybrid electric. I want a hybrid electric Acura tl i would be so happy back when i bought the volt the only reason i bought it was that the traditional car companies honda do you know how many honda clarities they allegedly this is just based on hearsay from a random honda dealer so i don't know if it's accurate or not but apparently it was like less than 20 clarities for that i thought it was like four entire model year yeah and i think

it was a lot less than that but i am going higher than what i recall just to make sure that's the a greater chance that it's right yeah it was like nothing i've seen like two on the road ever um it was it was it was the car i wanted to buy because it has the advantages of ev i get to drive in the hov lane i get to um not burn gas on my daily commute and it has the advantages of a gasoline car in that i can go long distances and quickly refuel without having to worry about finding public charging infrastructure it was so obvious but only because i happen to be a tech nerd and did a whole bunch of research into it and i am pragmatic to a fault most people that i know that know of like like good hybrids like the vault all right sorry most people that i know don't know about good hybrids like the vault yeah

and the problem is that the dealers apparently just had no idea what was going on and people didn't understand it. I remember talking to this other guy at a dealer who was like, yeah, this guy traded in his Volt. And I was like talking to him about it. And he was like, yeah, sorry, what? I just put gas in it the whole time. He drove it for years.

And I'm just, I'm sitting here going, are you kidding me you kidding me just you don't it doesn't even have to be in your garage you could just run extension cord it comes with a charger that just plugs into the wall there's literally no reason in bc canada real estate there is no reason not to use the cheap cheap electric power that we have yeah it's like the only thing we have going for us and it's like financially toyota figured it out like the the prius prime sucked the first couple generations i shouldn't say it sucked but the range was not enough not enough for my daily commute not enough for a lot of peoples and so you'd have to put gas in it on a very very regular basis i believe the latest model has way better all electric range and the rav4 prime is killing it i have no idea

how long the wait list is for that thing now but it was just everyone was going oh the problem with gas is you know this it's just gas emissions now and forever and gas is super expensive and blah blah blah and the problem with all electric is the range and these batteries that are so costly and environmentally devastating to extract from the earth if only there was some solution but there isn't and it was staring them in the face the whole time and not to single out a person yeah but a person one two three on flow plane said uh the big problem with plug-in sorry my my throat's still a little bit messed up but the big problem with plug-in hybrids is you have the cost and weight of both drivetrains not really my not quite because you also don't have the weight of all those batteries and you also don't need the same kind of chutzpah

in your ice drivetrain right and you're not running it because that's the thing like the volt for all of its being generally a very boring dad car actually not that bad right off the line because it uses the battery it uses the electric motors and the volt's a weird one because it's technically an ev with an onboard gasoline generator yeah right but like at the end of the day i sort of don't really care how you do it as a consumer all i care about is well i've got enough power that i can pass someone if i need to and they can be very efficient very very efficient you're talking about the weight they can be crazy efficient even if you are peak dumb and never plug in your volt it is a crazy efficient gasoline car yeah it's just way too expensive because you paid for a bunch of batteries

that you're not using because you're a big big dumb dumb that was dumb but the the like plug-in hybrid priuses crazy efficient the plug-in hybrid volts crazy efficient i'm not worried about the extra weight yeah and then i i remember talking about this back when we were going into the pandemic gm canceled the volt at the worst possible time they would have sold so many volts because the big problem with it was that it was expensive with a with a value proposition that was difficult for people to understand. And then all of a sudden, cars were just generally more expensive, so they could have made margin on it. And gasoline went through the roof. Yeah.

And it's like, oh, whoops. Like, they would have sold thousands and thousands and thousands of them. Yeah. GM hates money, says William Comart. Yeah. I know, right? It's like they try to make the worst possible decisions. I just don't know how to deal with it. Like, to be clear, I'm not like a fan or anything. I don't care. But just that car, it just made so much sense. It just made so much sense.

And it's validating, I guess, to see everyone going well this makes sense yeah that's why they only have two weeks of stock of hybrid electric vehicles because they're so awesome they're a great middle ground yeah people are not into gm and their decisions in general i am into plug-in hybrids though i i would like to eventually have one that's the only thing i feel like i'm lacking with my car literally love my volt so much that after i replaced it i bought it from myself seriously the car or the company owns it now and we just use it to run little errands which makes a ton of sense perfect for that because again the plug-in hybrid it's going to be borderline free to drive back and plug-in hybrid, it's going to be borderline free

to drive back and forth between the office buildings. It's going to be borderline free to run into town and grab something and come back. And then if it needs to run really far. Then it can. No problem. We have to go pick up a CRT in the interior of BC because we don't want to ship it for whatever reason.

Send it. No problem. Super efficient. Yep. Comfortable. Easy going. At Linus, that car made no sense on transformers like the movie what the volt was in transformers i believe so okay that is really why evil transformers that is not how i might have promoted it um supercar no oh i can't afford that jolt

this was an okay this was a huge this was a huge problem for chevy they had the bolt okay which was like an entry-level ev they had Volt, which was a completely different car, the plug-in hybrid vehicle. And now, I'm only just learning about this, they had Jolt, a character from Transformers that is a Volt. Are you kidding me?

That's really stupid. It also looks really stupid. Like, the Transformer looks dumb. I'm sad now very sad they're like nintendo we used this car like what looks like bumblebee but dumber yeah i thought that like bumblebee's translucent blue thing under him was like his beard they're flying they're flying electric vehicle called the molt yeah like exactly that's what it's really close to mulchers i started playing pokemon go recently makes me so sad i want to go and get my colt all right sorry you're not playing final fantasy six i'm ahead in the challenge is that no yeah is that what you're saying so i'm still like mildly sick so i haven't

been able to go to the gym so i haven't been able to play video games i'm getting really antsy so i wanted something to do and that that old game i don't even remember the name of it right now but the the game that i was playing to go out for walks for a while there yeah i like leveled out i got to the point where it's better to just sit at home and i'm like that's stupid so i stopped playing that game so i started playing pokemon go again and there's all these actually cool things what i wanted the other game to do pokemon go has been doing this whole time i just kind of forgot it existed it has like a feature now called routes oh yeah there'll be like a trail and it'll show you how to get to the trail and if you walk the whole trail it gives you a bonus at the end. That's cool. It's great.

It's cool. Oh, floatplane chat. GM is dolts. It was called dolts. It was called Orna. Yeah, so Orna was cool until you leveled too far, and then it sucked.

But hopefully they fixed it. I don't know. I haven't played in forever. Hey, how's Final Fantasy VI going? I haven't played more. Terrible. All my developers were here and stuff i didn't have any time so you haven't even finished the uh unless i spend the whole time hanging out with tank bots the fight in the uh in this in the snow no i'm still i'm still pending all right okay all right well hopefully

you remember how to play yeah i mean i think you'll be all right yeah um police warn about name dropping uh apple's feature name drop apparently both users must agree for any information to transfer any information transfer to take place between the phones um but the phone if it is within an inch or two of another and both phones are unlocked uh something something potential threat to children they may not okay i don't really i don't really understand exactly what the problem is with this seems fine okay cool ea patents self-insert character voices what why would you want to do that well this is this is the ethical version of ai voices in your games you record your own voice and then it trains a model interesting based on the filing the system would likely

use a sample of the player's speech in order to recreate it during dialogue and perhaps allow them to speak directly to the game's characters depending on the nature of the game ea appears to be attempting to patent the technical aspects of the system rather than the concept in and of itself that's kind of cute actually that's an interesting idea being able to talk directly is a very interesting idea that feels like a future step of gaming 100 i don't think we're there yet to the point where it would actually be good but i feel like that'll be a thing for sure have we talked about kalios someone in uh flipping chat said please blew it up and then people pointed out that they were missing half the facts that's a yikes um so yeah you you you lightly mentioned it

i think two shows ago okay okay so in response to our original call out um to our to confirm the rumors that kalios was going to finally offer a full refund to its original crowdfunding backers for that passive case, a community member sent us a September 19th post from Kallios to backers. In the post, Kallios acknowledges that the product that resulted from the campaign, that though it exceeded its promises, did so late and at a significantly higher price point than it exceeded, that the product they eventually built, it's really good you guys but it's late and at a much higher price point um even if that price point would have been a more realistic target for a low volume premium products that's something something something anyway the point is it's late and it's way more expensive but it is better that's what they're saying um sorry about that and any backers who backed the original worse cheaper version can get a full refund or the option of a voucher that can be used to buy one of 500 of the new one in a limited copper

edition uh at a 1200 euro price so that's kind of sick if the backer does not want to buy the limited edition one it will instead be made available for general purchase and the proceeds will be used to refund backers. So this is a quote, we will ensure that every backer who requested a refund gets it. And while the mechanism is formally tied to units being sold for regulatory and accounting requirements, the refund will be honored regardless of your allocated unit being sold. A survey will be sent to backers to confirm their choice. Those who do not respond will be considered as a refund request. Quote,

some might argue that this should have been the option from day one, but there have been many factors at play and without many business compromises, especially from Strecom, this was simply not a viable option for us until now. So the discussion question here is,

would LTT now consider covering Kaleos? Is this later better than never? Yes. I think so. I want to hear from a backer who requested a refund, who got money. Yeah. And then, you know what?

I won't even ask for a review sample. I'll buy one then. I will buy one then. I will buy one and review it. That's my deal. I'm not asking for any handouts or anything. I just really love this kind of technology. I want to cover it.

And if they are going to move forward in good faith to make their backers whole, then I think that the coverage that I said that I would, I would give it when I demanded that they make that option available. Well, I think that if they're, if they're willing to move forward in good faith, then I should make sure that I'm not putting any additional burden on them. And I think we should,

we should cover it. So I'll, I'll buy, I'll buy one of those copper limited edition ones or whatever, as long as I actually hear from someone with proof that they got a refund, assuming they want one. So, guys, you'll have to maybe get in touch with us the same way as last time. How did we do that?

I don't remember. But linustechtips.com, or linustechtips.com, linustechtips at gmail.com, I think is our public inbox still. The previous person that got in touch with us was through the forum oh how'd they who'd they contact i don't even know i don't actually remember how it worked i helped it go with the public facing inbox the one that's on the main ltd channel yeah have you heard about this do you know about this this next one oh i was i went to the discovery one discovery one yeah i actually don't think this other one's that interesting i mean it's like cool but it's not very practical wacky yeah okay

fine let's talk about it let's talk about it it's interesting it's not realistic at all input lag blah blah anyways um running both frame generation and fluid motion frames at the same time a south korean tech outlet uh quasar zone yeah uh claims that they have managed to run nvidia's frame generation and amd's fluid motion frame technology simultaneously although uh they showed the benchmark results but no footage and probably for good reason this resulted in an average boost of up to three times the frame rate as gaming at native resolution in 4K and ultra settings. Quasar Zone plugged in an RTX 4090 and an RX 6600 into the same PC, installed both their drivers, then hooked up the primary display to the 6600,

while the 4090 was set to the primary GPU in Windows so that the 4090's post-FrameGen output passed through the 6600. While the average was good, the 1% lows either barely increased or even decreased for most games. It also increased artifacting and input lag, and I suspect

by a rather significant amount. Discussion question. This is a terrible idea. Should we do it? I don't know. It's got to be rough. This reminds me of the time that we ran SLI and Crossfire in the same computer at the same time.

Oh, yeah. That was so frustrating. Oh, yeah. It made me angry for a not insignificant period of time like it was really awful it looked cool yeah it did it looked super cool it looked very cool and honestly people didn't even think it was that interesting of a video like i there was a lot of feedback on that video and around that time that we've like jumped the shark and lost touch and it's like well yeah that's not why we did it so that you because we thought it was a good idea we just thought it was we just thought it's kind of wild cool i thought it was cool um but it's it's like, well, that's not why we did it. So that you, because we thought it was a good idea. We just thought it was,

we just thought it was kind of wild. Cool. I thought it was cool. But it's, it's tough, right? Because it's always, it's always a fine balance, right? Like if we,

if we do nothing but practical content about how you can build an affordable computer, people will tune out because they're bored. And if we do, you know, out there, like a spectacle content,

people will tell us we've lost touch. Right. And it's like, okay, well, so that's some of this some of that some of something in between just keep throwing spaghetti at the wall come on Molly just forget discovery content has been removed from PS users libraries that's right PlayStationy posted a legal notice stating that the content made by the discovery channel that users purchased through them would no longer be available to view after the end of this year this content will not just be removed from the service it will be removed from paying customers libraries this is apparently wow a licensing issue related to discovery's recent merger

with warner brothers and our discussion question here is do we own anything we buy online and the answer is no no have offline copies or you have nothing and have this message from d brand or you have nothing. And have this message from dbrand or you have no WAN show after dark. That's right. We've got a sponsor for WAN show after dark, which Dan is working on. Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's cute. Hey.

It has a whole dbrand skin on the lower banner. Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, look at that. Of course, it's the new x-ray skins that they you eat them okay that was worth the work that we put into it i'm sure they launched these as part of the line of subsist entirely new x-ray purchases i do not zach from jerry bring Everything and you guys are going to make money on these. I mean, I guess you gave some of it to me

obviously. Buy x-ray or we stop paying for this spot. It's very honest. You gotta give them credit for the honesty, man. That's legit. So I guess I'm now obligated by my responsibility to our shareholders to tell you that you need to buy X-Ray. Yeah. Or else we will not make money.

Wow. Buy the real one. Yeah, anyway. That's great. So X-Ray is the line of skins that they launched to showcase to Fy what innovation actually looks like uh what was it originality or what originality actually looks like that's the word that case if i used all right i guess it's merch message time then i guess so i'm not saying i

guess we'll actually talk about merch hold on floatplane chat the skins are not edible calm down you guys stop should we check with dbrand if they want to just do I don't know how many we would sell like maybe even just a few hundred maybe we could just do like I don't know the latest iPhone

and the latest like S whatever from Samsung but just like a floatplane logo skin or something like that you know maybe not even a skin maybe just I love how you would do the floatplane logo skin in a phone that i don't have pixel okay no no no okay so we do we do okay okay look look i'm trying to make everyone happy here okay you know what forget it it's probably going to be too much work for those guys anyway to support it because we probably wouldn't sell more than like a couple hundred i'm assuming they need pretty crazy quantities for their types of runs. It's surprising how much development it takes to make a sticker.

And the funny thing is like, we know I was reading the blog post about the series X white edition where Microsoft kind of wrote up this thing about how changing the color was super non-trivial because uh they're and this is all stuff that we know from remember how it took so long for us to launch new color red skin oh my god that would actually probably no that would be we'd sell dozens anyway oh i don't know okay back to the uh back to the mic oh yeah the back to the xbox thing um we learned this when we were changing the color of the screwdriver it's not I don't know. Okay. Back to the, um, back to the mic. Oh yeah. The back to the Xbox thing. Um,

we learned this when we were changing the color of the screwdriver. It's not simple. They went and they shot it in the different color plastic and realized they had all these swirls. They had these marks that were not visible in black where the, uh, where the plastic was flowing. And it was like the most nightmarish tiny upgrade ever yeah and i think that's something

that people often don't appreciate whether it's a sticker or whether it's a different color of plastic or whether it's uh whether it's uh a sound making a product is easy making a product at scale is hard making a good product at scale is hard. Making a good product at scale, where you actually care, that's really, really hard. And it kind of doesn't matter what it is. If you care enough, you'll find a way to make it hard.

Because if it was easy, somebody else would already be doing it. Which is what I always tell my kids. Anyway, Dan, hit me. Sure, sure, sure. Let's have a look here. LLD, any updates on the upcoming laptop messenger bag? Now that I'm starting to game on my lunch breaks,

I'd like something not as big as the legendary LTT backpack. I'm checking. I have my update email from Nick. I don't see anything about it in there, but I think development is done, from nick i don't see anything about it in there but i i think we're i think it's i think development is done and we're just waiting on finalizing our initial order quantities it's gonna be awesome honestly i gotta tell you i know what my rules are but i'm tempted to just offer it as a pre-sale because i know it's really good it's based on the same dna as the backpack

um and it would help us a lot in terms of figuring out what our order quantities should be yeah w calderini says it's money from me yeah i know i know a lot of people are waiting for it but i don't know if a lot is a thousand or ten thousand or a hundred thousand i have no idea you should do you like, what justifies it? A review? Justifies it? What makes it okay? Well, the line we drew in the sand before was, it's not a pre-order. It's a back order. Because it had been available to real individual retail customers who were given an opportunity to use it and review it.

Would the timeline line up with one of the lands? No, probably not. Oh, damn. Yeah, like if we just go mass production, then we have to commit now. Like we have to decide right now, essentially. So in order for us to do any kind of... No, we didn't pre-sell the screwdriver. We backordered the screwdriver.

We sold some screwdrivers, and then it was a while before we were going to have stock and we took back orders quite a few screwdrivers yeah we've sold a lot of screwdrivers um and like it seems fair do that again yeah it's really hard it is it adds a ton of overhead if it's not something where we're sure we're going to sell tens of thousands of units it just doesn't make any sense we might as well just order fewer of them and if it sells out it sells out more just more um so it's it's tough people are saying no pre-order and it's like yeah i know but you also don't have to order it we we do have the trust me grow the trust me grow the trust me bro guarantee like you feel better problem we'll deal with it would it make you feel better if there's like a little banner being like

don't know no one has been able to order this yet no one has been able to review this yet we always recommend against pre-ordering yeah but like you can if you want i guess it's like super chats we don't stop you from doing super chats yeah i just tell you to do merch some people are super mad about that why i don't know because it's hypocritical or because it's because i don't know they find a way to make it evil because i will allow people to throw money at the screen even though i advise them not to it's like why it's a free country send throw money at the screen if you want to i can't stop you i make it really clear how to interact with the show it ain't super chats yeah um there's no obligation to like respond to or deal with super chats even if that's the only one that you have yeah i don't know i'll uh maybe maybe i'll talk

to maybe i'll talk to the buys about it um the buys this is great uh The hammock guy. I don't think you should do it because principles, but I'll pre-order one if you do it. And this is why microtransactions exist. Yeah. What's the buy guys? Okay, that's a reference. We were, we were, this is also during the upcoming AMDd ultimate tech upgrade um is this

an elijah elijah and i were doing something and we were we were trying something and we were we were just kind of riffing and we're like yeah we're like the try guys except there's two of us so we're the buy guys like oh wait wait so you're ask Elijah? To do what? You said I'll ask the bi guys. No, no, no, the bi's. Like, it's just like Eastern Canadian boys. Oh. Me and the bi's. Wow.

Yeah. All right. Just going out for a rip there, bud. Sure. Me and the bi's. You don't use any Canadian specific slang. Yeah, I know. Okay.

All right. Cool. Anywho. any canadian specific slang yeah i know okay uh all right cool anywho i got a 244 you're right here linus yeah hey dll linus what aspects of your company's culture are you most proud of developing or maintaining now that you've built linus media group into a 100 person employee company it's hard for me to say because the view that i get about proud of that just happens every day world class world class pee on the floor world class maybe in luke's water bottle prove it's hard for me to tell because i never see the same view that other people see and i never wanted that to be true i always wanted to be one of the gang and just you know in the thick of it and i i like working in the trenches with everybody right but the reality of it is that i see a very different

side of people than they see of each other because whenever i'm around the boss is watching and that's as much as i don't want that to be the case that that is how it is and and i mean okay coming back to my felt that a lot over the last few days unfortunately that i was watching you no no no oh like being mode and tone shifts when i would get close yeah oh okay yeah all right and like to be clear i get like i get it going back to the thing with the backpack earlier it's like when i see something wrong instantly it's it's it's not even it's not even a conscious thought. I'm like, okay, investigate and fix.

And sometimes the thing that's going wrong is what someone else is doing, right? And it doesn't have to be in like an evil or nasty way or anything, but it is something that I'm very passionate about that I obviously have a lot tied up in. I have a lot riding on the success of this company. And I want to make sure that it continues to be successful for myself

and obviously for the other people who work here, who as far as I can tell still want to work here and still want it to exist, right? So it's tough. And so I think a thing that I'm really proud of is that people are able to give feedback without fear of repercussions. But it's possible that some people do feel fear. And that's something that I want us to never lose track of continuing to try to improve. So having scheduled times for people to get feedback,

I mean, going back to, I think, was it the first year or the second year that we started doing annual reviews that I gave you guys the form ahead of time and asked you to fill them out for me as well, should you desire? It was not the first year. Okay.

Because the first year's annual reviews were like. Super weird. Yeah. That was really awkward. It was, it was probably one of the most stark turning points from bros in a garage to corporate that we ever underwent. It was also like in my room. Yeah.

Yeah. In Luke's, or as corporate as it can be when it's in Luke's basement suite that is under the office that he rents from me. In the bedroom portion. In the bedroom. Okay, in fairness, why, yeah, why did you not sleep in the proper bedroom of the suite? I forget. Well, there wasn't one. Yeah, well, okay, it didn't have a window, but it was like kind of a bedroom-like when you just came down the stairs that room so that was all i had at the beginning what because no we didn't meet there though no you were in the you were in the other side when we when we had our first annual reviews i believe i could be wrong am i was that the second one then

maybe oh wow did we really meet in the little like the dungeon room 100 that's amazing that definitely happened i remember that meeting oh no i also remember the other one so that must have been yeah year two yeah okay because eventually i had the whole thing but at the beginning i just had the like little cubby basically that's amazing anyway um yeah so so we we encourage we encourage feedback um i think part of it part of the challenge now is i um don't say that i know i know i know I know. F***ing float plane chat. Anyway, I think part of the problem now is that I don't get to interact personally with everyone and I don't get to build that rapport. So it used to be that I think everyone knew that they could give me honest feedback. They could tell me if they didn't think my work was very good.

They could tell me if they didn't think that my assessment of their work was fair. my work was very good. They could tell me if they didn't think that my assessment of their work was fair. Um, these days I don't, I don't think so, but I think that if there's, if there's one thing that I can still say, it's that we still try and we will, we will always continue to try. And that's something that I'm very proud of because I think that's how we continue to get better. I think it helps that a lot of the people from back then are still around so that mentality or the how do i say this i feel like i'm lacking the words um the people who did it when we were like small and agile and it wasn't that hard to do it can can testament to the fact that it was done and it is a thing and it is still a thing if you know what i mean and i think that

helps the culture might not completely solve that problem because i don't think you can and it helps but it's hard for those people to even tell if it's helping when now they're in such a position of power that they may not be able to see everything yeah yeah like there's always going to be some insulation go on yeah yeah and the more layers there are the more insulated i am and like i just i want to continue to try to do things like okay all right we just had our company christmas party this uh this wednesday it's fun uh yeah it was it was really good it was... It was really good. It was weird.

It's always weird, I think. It's always weird, right? It's always a little weird. Yeah, but... Not in a bad way. We have a couple sort of main principles for the Christmas party. One is that it's not work. It is not content.

Yeah. Yeah. Two is that it needs to be memorable. They're always memorable. i have very distinct memories from all of them some weird happens yeah and not not in like you know like drugged out or like in anything like that we we run it kind of like a wedding party yeah that's a really good reference actually yeah so we'll play like games where everyone gets up out of their chairs and goes and just okay we played a game this year that involved like uh like like flag capture like like you you have a like a belt with a with a tail um like what what kind of games are played like that like i think flag football is the best

reference but you weren't allowed like running and stuff and then you had you had people inside that had to steal the flags yeah and you had to hand off the flag to a designated hacker and the hacker had to use codes that were on the flags to like break into locks what i thought was hilarious was the amount of people from my team that were designated the hackers because there's all like the developers and stuff that were distributed amongst all the tables so like half the hackers were just people from my team which was great i thought that was really funny yeah the theme was uh the theme was this year was sort of events that took place so that game was obviously about the hack um i don't know just and you know what

most of the time the games don't really work out the way that we envisioned but they're always this year was pretty rampant with cheating on both games it was like brutal but i mean whatever it's just supposed to be fun right yes i don't know yeah and i i like to think people have we we uh we they were both very fun we dress up yeah uh what what year did that start was that the year that we did the like was that the the 10 million subscriber year i think that was one of the years when i was banned well you weren't banned you just weren't invited i was not allowed That's the same as ban. Okay. You can, you can flavor that wording as much as you want.

It's a little more nuanced than what, not that much. It's a little more. It's a little more. And I think that would be a much longer conversation than we're going to be having about it right now. Speaking of people not being afraid to speak their minds without fear of retaliation. I've never been a pro.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it should be more of a problem. I was the one that was banned. Anywho, we started. It is more nuanced than that i'm just trolling very effectively anywho we uh we started this costume thing and the first year um we were like hey there's going to be a theme and you should you should dress up according to the theme and we didn't say why they should do that and so some people did did not that many it was i think it was about 50 50 maybe so the people

that showed up higher percentage now the people that well i was getting to that but yeah the people that showed up uh found out that there was like a costume contest and there was there was awards and you could get tickets for having the most inventive or having the most um complicated or i forget i forget or the funniest or whatever else and uh no one knew what the tickets were for but we were giving out tickets all night for participating in the games and for for uh dressing according to the theme of the party and everything like that and then at the end it turned out that the tickets were for a raffle that had crazy crazy stuff in it like just crazy and so overnight from the first one to the second one we went from

tepid participation to near 100 no i think was it actually we were over 100 participation this year because even non-employees were dressed according to the theme of the night i consider that over 100 participation so a non-employee counts towards the yeah then i think so yeah yeah i think we're over 100 did you see did you see what emma's was i thought it was hilarious i thought it was so caught emma's i i thought it was hilarious i thought it was so funny i'm so sorry she came late so it's not too surprising but she had she wore one of my uh oh this year the theme was the food groups yeah so my my team was uh cereal um so she she threw this together like super last minute because she didn't know plus ones were supposed to dress up because i

got the news of the theme while i was in japan so i didn't even know plus ones were supposed to drive were they it's not supposed to but they were invited sure yeah okay cool um so she grabbed one of my donut media merch shirts that has just cans of beans on it because give it the beans or whatever and she crossed out with green painters tape all of the cans except for two of them and then wore a name tag that just said sam actually so funny and i think i think like almost nobody got it so it didn't get like the credit that it deserved but it was great it was so good it was so cool seeing uh what some of the teams put together riley was uh was a super ethical farmer and then yeah and his team was i really like the whole team like the live animals yeah and then like the product of the animals and then they had a butcher

um what was what was the chef's name i forget i don't remember the chef's name but he had a minecraft sword yeah and and so like during the during the judging we had the plus ones do like an applause-o-meter like judging thing and uh riley would like bring the animals to the butcher and he'd like kill them and then they'd have the product i don't know it was it was amazing yeah i love like cohesive everybody has to be involved for it to work well themes i think those are great super cool uh oh uh sweets a candy candy was um a bunch of m&ms and then david dressed up as a sugar daddy. His costume was amazing.

I was having a really hard time with cereal. I couldn't figure out anything. I kept leaning towards like, do I run with it too far and do like serial killer? But I was like, no, it's almost too obvious. Yeah,

no, I thought this, I thought the cereal team did a great job. And then I liked what I ended up coming up with. I, so Joe and i were making our costumes together yeah but we went to go do it at my place and joe needed to use like uh oil markers and uh glue and stuff so we were like okay well we can't do this because the birds

so we can't have fumes so we were sitting in the lobby of my apartment. Oh my gosh. Making the costumes and people kept walking by while I'm like making Cheerios out of cardboard and he's drawing a ketchup label on felt. Some of the looks we got were amazing. No one asked like, why are you doing this here? No one asked that question, which was amazing. Because it was obvious because you can't do it somewhere else. i mean no one would choose to be there yeah anyway it was really it was really fun it was a total blast um massive shout out andy for being our photographer i get to actually have like good pictures of everything for a change because yvonne and i are usually just

like running around like chickens with our heads cut off and like we don't really get to process any of it um so i'm i'm excited to look back at the pictures and we've for once remembered to take a group photo i forget who was like wait wait wait what about a group photo like after i'd been like okay thanks everyone good night drive safe yeah we've missed a few of those yeah we we have so few group pictures as a company yeah i i wish we actually like a weird amount the few that exist like remember that that silly one we took where we all piled on the couch before we moved into the new office like that's an amazing photo i wish we had more of that yeah you know we just we were so busy doing it we forgot that we might want to look back at it someday that is a very

legendary photo though i'm doing i'm happy we have at least that one. It makes up for quite a lot. Yeah. That was, that was before anyone had left. Yeah. So at least, you know, we,

at least we have that. Yeah. You know, there was no one that we like missed getting a group picture with in those days. One person left. There was one, one no you don't mean the intern nope there was one person that was fired oh i don't count that yeah okay okay

anywho what do you got hi dll i'm a construction equipment operator from pennsylvania what's your take on tech in construction like autonomous equipment off-site control trucks that shut down automatically or gps farming gps farming super cool yes this is the wavelength why are you so passionate about that both of you super cool well yeah no but i mean you jumped on that immediately yeah but it's also it's it's it's basically depending on what you're trying to do it's it's basically a robo vacuum i mean yeah it's also it's it's it's basically depending on what you're trying to do it's it's basically a robo vacuum i mean yeah it's awesome the things that could go wrong compared to autonomous equipment in like construction this is the exact thought i was having yeah autonomous

equipment in construction sounds terrifying it's just a plow off-site control just plow sounds like you're missing a lot of sensory information for safety reasons trucks that shut down automatically sounds really bad like i i don't know about you but i want actual humans operating the heavy machinery for better or for worse i want trained actual humans for now but gps farming yeah cool is sick all right hey wan.dll and greetings from europe linus will you get your hands on the ionio with mini led and how do you see mini led compared to oled um i actually wasn't aware of it yet i am super happy with uh i love the rg ally and i love the steam deck oled and i'm not sure which one to play octopath traveler on i i started it and i'm actually not really enjoying it though i i got to the first like boss fight in the first scenario got my ass absolutely handed to me in a way that i just

don't i didn't even really understand it felt which came against completely unfair octopath traveler oh yeah um and yeah maybe yeah maybe it's maybe it's pebcac maybe it's user error uh it's beautiful it's beautiful but also it's just it's just felt kind of like shallow so far i don't know and yeah i'm sure it's a skill issue but i just i don't know it's it's new game, so it doesn't come with a manual. It showed me how to, you know, stack up attacks or whatever, but I'm sitting here going like, what? I'm supposed to need like multiple potions to heal my guy

in like the first boss fight? I thought I'm just still learning the game mechanics. But then my understanding of the game is that you play all eight of the campaigns. So I guess they have to be difficult enough that by the time you're doing the eighth one, which is the same, whether you play it first or last, it still has to be challenging and interesting.

There are games that have done difficulty shifting based on your order before. I guess so. Like they can scale each one. Yeah. Um, any who. Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, right. So I can't decide i i couldn't even decide which one to play it on i really like them both i i don't mini led is cool but i i see it as kind of a stepping stone to oled as long as your use case isn't going to have burn and be an enormous

problem for you and i would I would rather just have OLED, but the Steam Deck is not as powerful as the Ally. Right now, they're both great options. I can't even decide which one I would wanna play a game on. As a dev manager at Technology Corporation, laying off 50% of the team, I had to inform those affected despite not making the call. Have you ever delivered news that

impacted people's lives while being limited by hr script oh yeah that's honestly part of the gig that's a huge thing like in bc um if you give someone a reason for parting ways uh they can take that reason and twist it into um a huge variety of different yeah huge variety of different things so the the legal advice we get now is you just have to say it's not working out we're going in a different direction if they ask why you basically just say it's not working out we're going in a different direction that's like i feel so unfair you just to me but you and it's frustrating because you really want to help that person in that moment. Yep.

But you legally can't. Or you open yourself up to a bunch of liability, which feels kind of ridiculous. Yep. All right. Hey, DLL, long-time listener, first-time caller. Linus, what was your experience like getting fitted for your big screen beyond? I'm currently in the process of getting mine exchanged for a narrower IPD. They nailed it. I don't know. Yeah, I guess bad luck.

With seemingly more and more Govee sponsorships lately, would it be possible to persuade them to support an open API to enable things like home assistant integration? I've raised this as a concern with the business team i think they're bringing it to govi and figuring out sort of what the sitch is right now love listening to y'all while working luke what is the project you regret the outcome of most pizza sorry my actual first thought caught in my throat it was cold pizza heater uh my first thought did go to pizza heater computer but i think i'm gonna say the um the post feature on floatplane which is interesting because people use it now

but anyway so the the post feature basically we were trying to do creator recruitment and we just had video and a bunch of people were like oh you need you need audio and picture and text or else it's like not everything and like we'll join once you do that we were like okay so we spent six months doing that we did it and then nobody cares. It was just like, oh man, that's, that's one of the points in time where we shifted to like, okay, we're going to make stuff for the creators that are on the platform.

I've personally used posts just so you know, now for whatever reason, it's used actually quite a bit. Yeah. Like a lot of the creators use it. And a lot of people found very good ways to use it and stuff like that. But when we first launched it, nobody used it. It's a workflow workflow thing i understand yada yada but like it's it was it was depressing

at the time um but i mean yeah i'm happy we have it now because it's like actually very commonly used it also allows you to have multiple things per upload so like someone could upload a video with individual graph files attached to it um uh yeah there's like lots of other stuff there was for the behind the scenes of the what it's like to work at ltc videos uh or not behind the scenes for the extended cuts of that there was like so many videos that they ended up uploading them in in clumps so that you didn't get like 10 billion notifications it was good linus what about doing a quarterly or bi-monthly merch update instead of with when updates i feel like it would be easier to go much more in depth and it would be easier to find specific updates uh the intention is for that to take place in the creator warehouse newsletter at some point we've had a really hard time just with being busy with other things being on top of that

and doing them regularly enough but at some point i want that newsletter to be that content that you're asking for here i think we talk about merch enough on the show as it is. And I don't think we can avoid talking about it every week because so many people ask us about it. So I don't think we're going to move to just consolidated monthly talking about merch sessions. And I don't think that adding monthly to the already weekly ones we're doing is going to be the way to go. I think I think getting that newsletter up and running is probably our best bet. the way to go. I think getting that newsletter up and running is probably our best bet. With modern CPUs getting hotter and hotter,

at what point is it necessary to commit to an AIO or water cooler? Well, it's complicated, right? Today, but also never? AIOs are not always the best solution. Like if I was going Threadripper, do those

thermosiphon guys still exist because that's what i'd want uh thread ripper yeah this thing oh sick uh do they do they support the the new ones though oh no no no no no oh i don't see anything about the new ones. Uh, do they have like news media reviews, blog, anything? Uh, okay. I don't, I don't know. Um, anyway, ice giant, super cool products. Can I, can I, can I buy it? I can just buy it. Uh, yeah, I think they probably still have some work to do for mounting for the new Threadripper but honestly I'd rather have something like this

than a water cooler just because it's fewer points of failure you don't have to worry about the pump failing so it says there's 16 left but that number hasn't been going down and there's none in there oh okay i see um there's one incoming i don't i don't think i have an answer for this one thor i can't think of a feature in a game that was removed after the game got an update that has bothered me luke can you think of a feature in a game that was trying to think about this not really to be honest um i know this is a thing but it's not

something that i've like tracked uh like nerfing weapons and stuff like that you know obviously you know that kind of sucks if that you're into that meta yeah but it's not a feature no it's not a feature i can't think something that i've complained about recently was battle bit had a uh map and mode voting system and they just turned it into like a random slot machine instead of voting okay well i think that's a great example but then they brought it back okay but but but you were but yes yeah i think that's the best one that i got yeah i mean this didn't this wasn't removed from halo infinite because it was always stupid like this but not being able to select what

game mode you want to play yeah not being able to say yeah i just want to play capture the flag tonight um that was removed compared to how it should work but it was always like that which is ridiculous and i think that's pretty much it for tonight oh update on the rain cover for the backpack asks bryce b okay we've got our sample of something that i'm ready to press go on except the pricing is a big problem and the pricing is my fault because i wanted the rain fly to turn the backpack reflective because anytime there's rain there can be visibility challenges oh yeah that's a big benefit and i really wanted the bag to be black to match our look, but also be high vis.

So we've got this really cool graphic that is a collaboration between, it's sort of based on some of Lloyd's artwork, but then it was adapted by a relatively new member of our Creator Warehouse team, Lisa. And it's like kind of mountains and like, I don't know, constellations and stuff. It's like super cool.

And then in the initial meeting about it, I was like, oh man, how cool would it be? Cause we had two different options for the reflective material. We had the kind of like gray high-vis one. And then, you know, that like rainbow reflective material. Okay. So we ordered, this is going to look sick. So we ordered samples with the, just like the gray one and with the rainbow one

and i was like oh you know it'd be really cool if we had like gray mountains and like rainbow northern lights that sounds awesome that one's gonna be like 60 or 70 dollars because it's now a multi-stage process but it sounds actually amazing but it's gonna look amazing um so we're we're we're trying to figure out what to do do we do we go forward with it and just have like the world's most expensive rain fly or do we pretty wicked or do we do the same thing and just have one color and have it be way cheaper you know what the difference would be i don't remember exactly but it's a lot it's it's more than you'd think because it takes this like one stage thing and it turns it into like a multi-stage thing yeah it like it kind of f**ks up the the the process yeah yeah yeah so i love the

idea of the two mode yeah that is a little expensive yeah that's it's very expensive i guarantee you some people would buy it but see I don't want to just do the rainbow guys because the viz is not as high. And functionality first. It's like safety first. No, but like for real. All right, anyway, I think that's it. Thanks for tuning into The WAN Show, you guys.

We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. I'm surprised so many people had stuff to buy after all the crazy promos we had for Black Friday. Yeah. Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok