The WAN Show - Google Is Promoting Ad Blockers On YouTube - WAN Show April 25, 2025
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What's up everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show.
We've got a great show lined up for you this week because how can Google unilaterally remove
my video about ad blockers but then run ads on YouTube for ad blockers?
This does not make sense.
This is Chewbacca.
Chewbacca lives on Kashyyyk.
He does not make sense.
Also, in the news this week,
Intel's having a bit of a classic Coke moment
where the new Intel CPU is not nearly as beloved as the old Intel CPU that overheats and dies
Which is hard to deal with what else we got this week mr.. Luke oblivion. Oh my god really
Oblivion happened it was remastered professor really said there's more to talk about other than that, but oh my oh my
Goodness everyone knew that was gonna be a topic of mine
I blew the only one that I had for sure and other than that I don't know they all kind of suck
Discord CEO is stepping down whole load blown because it's like you know that reference and also oblivion with the long loading times
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Let's talk about this.
Google is apparently completely cool with ad block advertising on YouTube.
Are they cool with it or was it just there?
So you know how when there's like an inflammatory thing that you're reporting on,
whether you cosplay as a journalist or not, you sort of just have a moral, you might say, obligation to reach out and get the other side of the story
So did we do so because that's just kind of basic human decency I reached out to Google asking yo
What's the deal with all of these ads that I'm getting for this service called the pie?
So this is this is pie ad block which I don't know is maybe gonna get the WAN
show freaking takedown by YouTube because you might remember this recently
we did a video part 2 of D Google your life where we talked yes about the
boogeyman ad block and how to use it on YouTube okay so I'm I'm showing this
right now but the only reason I'm aware of Pi, Luke,
is because I keep getting fed ads for it on YouTube.
And talking to some of the other writers here,
they've been apparently getting a lot of ads for Pi as well.
So let me, you know what, I'll actually read the document
that our writing team so graciously prepared for us. Do you recognize these people?
Sorry, what is this? Ah, yes. Okay.
Mr. Jordan block went and look at all this work he did for us. Boom.
He's got the people's intricate. Yeah, here we go.
The people's internet. Okay. So do you recognize any of these ads?
These are all ads for pie no, okay, well I bet you guys do
So far still no
Only thing I see is I have you to bring out for crying out loud. Yeah, I have YouTube premium. I don't
Well, I don't have YouTube premium on my work account. Are these the people that read ads for everything? Is that the point?
Well, no, those are just like those are the those are the like the ads for it
Those are the thumbnails for them. How would I recognize the people though? Well because they're in the ads for the they're in the ads for pie
Oh, so it's basically asking if I've seen the ad before. Yeah. yeah yeah I'm just asking if you've seen the ad before no well whatever honey honey co-founder Ryan
Hudson is back with a new project the pie ad blocker seems to be advertising
absolutely everywhere recently including on YouTube Google's ad
transparency site shows that Pi has
approximately 40 different text ads and 800 different video ads active in Google
ads when we checked earlier today.
Pi says that you can block ads and get paid,
although the Pi FAQ seems mostly concerned with distancing themselves from honey slash PayPal.
This discovery, on my part, comes just seven months after Google unilaterally removed our
D Google your life part two video for violating YouTube's community guidelines as potentially
harmful or dangerous content, which it turns out translates to telling people how to block ads on YouTube.
So I reached out to YouTube and by my standards, very politely, asked, what the f*** is this?
I was a little frustrated by the experience to say the least.
I basically said, hey, so what's the deal with this?
Like what, what, what is the policy distinction
between me posting a video talking about ad blocking
on, on YouTube versus an advertiser paying for positioning
for their ad blocker on YouTube?
And they basically went, oh, well, I don't know.
You'll have to get me the ad ID of that ad.
And I'm kinda sitting here going,
well, what does that even mean?
Why does it matter?
Why do you need the ID of the spit?
Like it felt like I was just being asked
to jump through a completely unnecessary hoop.
This is an ad for an ad blocker.
So they have a domain.
Presumably you, Google, the entity have an ad service
that knows what the f**k domain,
an ad that people click on goes to.
Find one that goes to that domain and let me know.
Right?
Am I missing something here?
No.
If it goes to this ad blocker, just find anyone.
I don't care. It doesn't have to be the exact one
Why does this irrelevant detail anyway?
We jumped through the hoop Jordan very helpfully found me an ID and also you can see got that
That helpful little link that shows how many of these flippin video ads they have running right now
Which Google could have easily done they could have just gone and found that list and then shown me
Responded via about any one of them.
Basically, so I sent that over to them and they're kind of like, oh, well, Google's divisions
have a lot of separation.
So ads have a different set of policies compared to YouTube videos.
And there is currently no policy against advertising an ad blocker
even though that ad blocker appears as
content on YouTube. What if what if what
if what if you buy ads for the
deagle google your life video apparently
that's kosher
what so making people watch it Apparently, that's kosher. That would be fine.
What?
So making people watch it, it's more okay than having it be optional.
If the content is bad, it's more okay if you make people watch it than if you make it optional for them to watch.
That's what is being communicated to me personally.
That's what I'm taking from this. And yeah yeah yeah CatOS points out
that ads on YouTube videos, ads on YouTube are videos on the platform. Like in terms
of how they work on the back end. So you 100% can upload a video to YouTube that contains
instructions for ad blocking as long as you do an ad buy against it. I wonder what other YouTube rules you can break.
How far can you take that?
Because there's a lot of things that I could think in Google ads that are against YouTube
terms of service.
Chewy, our community, our community coordinator, I don't know what the heck his job title is,
but whatever, he's cool.
He says in chat, if you stop paying for the video to be shown as an ad will it then get struck down I?
Don't know it's a good question. I don't know I feel like no
But it's a good question I I just
Look I
Feel like this is one of those times when people are gonna find some try to find some gotcha
So let me clarify my stance. I don't use ad blockers. That is a personal choice that I've made
because I am a content creator and it would feel pretty hypocritical of me to use ad blockers when
I am both aware of and educate people on the impact that it has on content creators. I do not and have never said,
Never use an ad blocker you f**king monster, you horrible people.
I have never said that, that has never happened. If you think it happened, you imagined it or someone lied to you and told you that it happened.
That is the only-
You said it to me behind the scenes.
That is the only way that those things could have been an experience that you had.
We have explicitly provided instructions on ad blocking before
on our channel. We've done a video on Piehole, we have the Google your life video,
we've discussed our histories as pirates before we could afford to buy things
extensively on the WAN show. So
the big controversy is I said ad blocks piracy because it is and some people got butt hurt.
That's pretty much what it boils down to,
but I never said don't do piracy.
I never said put away your eye patch and your tricorn hat.
I just said, well, it's a form of piracy.
You're circumventing the payment on the platform,
therefore piracy is kind of simple.
It's actually really simple.
So I'm not upset that Google is
promoting ad blockers on a platform where I rely on ads. What I'm upset about is the hypocrisy
that we are seeing from, and I get it, I get it, companies have silos, you know, they'll have different policies,
they'll have different teams.
There's all these factors that I think people who have never worked for a larger company
don't consider.
It is not surprising to me that this happened.
What is surprising to me though is now that it's been flagged that it is not just, oh,
duh, obvious that this should not be. Because if your policy is that because of user safety, potentially harmful or dangerous
content that my video showing people how to block ads on YouTube was removed, not just
they contacted me and we had a conversation and we agreed to take it down. No, removed.
And then they contacted me.
Actually, I think I read about it on Reddit first.
I don't actually remember.
The point is they just ripped the video down.
So that's what happens there.
But if you're running it as an ad, well,
I don't know, it's a different team.
I don't know.
What?
That doesn't make any sense but hey they had
a good earnings call there they're up how many how many points I can't
remember and we've got a couple other points here it wasn't long ago 2023 that
Google sponsored a conference for ad block developers and at least five
Google employees gave presentations at the same time that YouTube was getting
more aggressive in dealing with that blocking yeah that doesn't surprise me
that much unique username says not to be that guy Linus but I don't think anyone
ever used the word piracy for what you described so at least some confusion is
warranted IMO I'm sorry I just actually don't think it's that complicated. Yeah, it's circumvention of payment for the digital
product. Personal gain. Right, like that's what we call it. We don't call it
theft because if you don't remove it or whatever, you know, whatever the
rationalization is, right? Like if you don't actually remove it from the
possession of the person who has it, then it can't be theft. I'm like, sure, okay.
Like it doesn't matter. It's all semantics, right? Like, that's the whole point, is that
someone has a thing, they set a price for it, you decided no, and you took it anyway.
So you call it whatever you want, right? But the point is that it is functionally the same thing.
But is it really not the point today? Because I just don't care. I just don't care.
You do whatever works for you.
And if you have like a super guilty conscience or whatever, and it makes you
like really mad when someone calls you out and is like, that's what you're doing.
That's your thing.
You go deal with that.
You talk to your therapist about it.
You talk to your mom about it.
You talk to your friends about it.
Or just don't care.
Or just don't care.
Or go on team you while you still can and order a tricorn hat and an eye patch
That's also an option. Yeah, I think a lot of people are dusting them off right now. Oh, I like dude big time, dude
Netflix just raised pricing again. I didn't I feel like that is a statement
I could say that any time question and answer that is permanently true. Yeah
Statement I could say that anytime question and answer that is permanently true. Yeah
We should I okay, I sent you this you have an LTT eye patch
That's actually a really good idea Dan
Can you send it to the team yes and try corn hat and then you get if it's a combo Then you get them at a lower price, and if you steal them from us you get it for free
If it's a combo, then you get them at a lower price, and if you steal them from us you get it for free
Which I mean is sort of that's kind of how that works kind of goes without saying
A group that did a price increase in a way that I think was really cool recently, and I sent to you was dropout
Remember that? Yes
Remember that? Uh, yes.
Dropout, why is my thing not working?
Oh, it's dropout.tv, I was doing dropout.com
Anyways, they had a video on it and
you can tell they did something right here
when the video
on them increasing their
pricing
was like, very well liked
and the comments are really positive
Yeah, it was like one minute long too
I'm trying to see one minute long to find it
It was really short
Basically they were just like yeah, we're increasing pricing, but it's only for new people here we go price change warning two minutes
1.75 so it probably took me a minute. Yeah, it's it's so short vlog brothers responded with just charge me more dork and people liked it
This comment you know when you have something special when an announcement that you're raising your prices has an overwhelmingly positive
Comment section and it's legit and it's because they did it in a cool way
Well, they didn't even do it in a cool way. They just did it the way it should be done
Yeah, I think it was yeah, it goes up for new customers and it goes up for returning customers. So if you canceled and are coming back,
it went up as well.
I will do you one better.
Our returning customers keep their existing pricing.
But we might have to change that at some point.
That probably doesn't make sense forever because-
What if someone's returning from 2017?
Yeah, are they really a returning customer?
I think the way that YouTube defines a new viewer to the channel is 90 days
It's either 90 days or 30 days or something I wouldn't mind having a buffer that seems reasonable
I think a little buffer might be reasonable, but I think if someone's coming back after a year or whatever they can just
Clearly they're doing the thing where they buy for one month download everything then cancel and then watch it
And that's fine, but then they can pay you can pay full price They can pay a couple dollars more. Yeah, I'm gonna kill them
I just wanted to point out cuz like again we we talked about how there's there's a lot of negative news
So okay hold on hold on three weeks ago, but I thought it was cool. Okay deep blue seven
I use ad blockers cuz I don't want to pay for the content
I don't oh, I don't use ad blockers because I don't want to pay for the content
I use them because I don't want companies to track me and there's like a whole bunch more about why you use them
I'm not judging again. I can't because I don't want companies to track me, and there's like a whole bunch more about why you use them. I'm not judging.
Again, I can't make this clear enough.
At no point in time.
We have literally made videos on how to do what you're doing.
We've helped you.
And we've talked about the benefits.
We will probably continue helping you.
We will.
We will.
We're talking about it right now.
We're talking about it right now.
I am mad because my video on de-Googling your life life which included how to run ad blockers on YouTube was taken down
We're very annoyed that we weren't able to give you the info on how to block ads don't
Interpret this the wrong way. I choose not to use them
That's a personal choice
You choose to use them for whatever reason you like.
And that is your personal choice.
And that's a legit reason.
And it's piracy. And I don't care.
And you shouldn't care either. If you don't care.
That's it. It's okay. It's okay.
You know what? You don't need to talk to your therapist about it anymore.
I will be that for you.
We're going to take whatever parasocial relationship we had Don't need to talk to your therapist about it anymore. I will be that for you.
We're gonna take whatever parasocial relationship we had and we're gonna go like this.
We're gonna turn it up to 11.
Oh man.
All right, our discussion question on this topic is
why didn't you warn us about Pi, Linus?
Yeah. Why didn't I? Why didn't you? Why didn't I warn us about pie Linus? Yeah?
Why didn't I why didn't you why didn't I honestly?
Disappointed I don't click on ad so I don't I didn't know what it was I just I just could tell that it was an ad blocker so I call I basically got seen it mad at YouTube
I was super sus because this is the first time I've ever heard of this yeah, and they say get paid
And I was immediately like oh what's going on?
They say get paid and I was immediately like oh what's going on?
So they say browse you got to read the whole line browse ad flea ad free with pie ad block and earn cash rewards for the ads you choose to see I
Read some reddit threads real quick and stuff isn't this just brave. I think it's kind of like distributed brave I
Think okay put it on other browsers. I found this interesting
Featured by Google verified by Google can you okay go go to the actual chrome store though is it actually don't like
An image I don't think that's even I don't think that even pulls like from the API or anything
I did not play store that looks bad doing what am I doing?
What are you doing? It's right here though. It found it anyways good job Google
It didn't say featured on okay, but it does have a lot of number of ratings though. Yeah
They have a good record I thought this was interesting they flagged themselves as a non-traitor I
Don't know if that's legitimate. A trader? What's a trader? So I
had to do a bunch of research on this a while back because we had to flag Float
Plane as a trader, but I think that's because we receive payment. They don't
receive payment, but if they are sending payment, I feel like they would still be
a trader, and I feel like they would still be a trader.
And I feel like they're trying to get away from this because it notes on the end there.
What if they're sending payment but they're not sending any to Russia or China? Are they still a
trader? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, T-R-A-D-E-R to be clear. And it says, for consumers in the European Union,
please note that consumer rights do not apply to contracts between you and this developer.
Chat knows what I want. Where's my ding?
Oh.
I'm like conditioned now. I'm the dog. I get it.
You need your gratification.
I need my ding.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I missed your joke. I
Didn't think it was really like a joke. I wasn't listening to you're playing on the word traitor
Yeah, but it was just like that's like it's not a
Classic thing classic thing you get a makeup thing then knows you get a make let's go. Yeah. Oh that feels good
I'm sorry. I feel good. I took that from you
Okay, what are we supposed to be talking about? What are you even talking about? Oh traders right?
Sorry, I'm sorry. I took that from you
Okay, sorry oh
man
Extremely normal employee boss interactions. Oh, yeah
Jordan says as soon as I started writing this topic we couldn't get a pie ad to come up no matter what we tried is Google
Watching the land doc hi Google. No probably not Jordan
Just pause their campaigns
Apparently I've watched a couple of like I've watched a couple of like
I've watched a couple of like videos that I'm not sure if I was supposed to
watch about like how bigger organizations who do a lot like tens of
millions of dollars a year of this kind of advertising work and they are like
cycling through creative they're like cycling through campaigns at a rate that is
Was already back then like unfathomable to me like the size of the teams that would need to work on this and now that you
Can have AI agents that would do this kind of stuff
I'm sure that it's 10x 100x what it was before it's it's pretty wild
So probably they just had a campaign paused and they were working on changeover or something
This is not a topic, but there's a lot of really, really nefarious advertising
going on right now, which is undisclosed advertising with fake AI creators
talking about, uh, like life change stuff.
Uh, like one that I saw like puberty.
Are you going through the change?
Do you have hair?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very new in places. I haven't had it before
It's a lot you want to talk about it that would help you are the therapist now
Okay, anyways the one that I saw was
one account that was constantly, it was always
women, but they're all different.
And it was clearly not like a stories account.
These were clearly just AI generated.
And it would talk about how they moved to this new country to get away from whatever.
And this current one was like, oh, I moved to, the one that I saw, I think, was I moved to Poland,
I'm pretty sure, to get away from the Trump administration
and I was happy with all these different things
and I learned that by law, you have to have a water filter
and my hair and skin has never felt better
and when I moved out of the place that I was in,
I liked my water filter so much, I was gonna take it
and then my landlord said, why don't you just look up this brand on Amazon? And I was like,
wow, what a good tip. Undisclosed obvious ad at every single post from this one account,
because no one seems to look into it or care. The comments, by the way, the reason why I'm
saying it's so nefarious, the comments, by the way, are all just fighting over political things. Nobody's pointing out this is clearly an AI
generated content slop. Did you click on any of the commenters? Do they seem to be human?
I didn't click on the commenters. But they're all just fighting about it's
oh, Poland is this way because of whatever Trump blah blah blah something blah blah blah
whatever. It was all just political fighting. I was reading about how brain rot seems to actually
not be a figure of speech like you know how when when our parents were kids they
said that like reading fiction was gonna rot your brain and then when when the
Gen Xers were kids it was watching TV's gonna rot your brain and then for us it
was video games are gonna rot your brain, but like No, really like scrolling through short to be very and stories and whatnot seems to actually rot your brain
Like they're they're they're measuring
Very very different cognitive outcomes for younger kids
I think we talked about this recently
But the the really remarkable thing sort of having lived on the internet for my entire adult life has been
watching the
Intelligence of humanity go like this and the intelligence of bots go like this and I feel like we are dangerously close
To the meeting point or maybe even past it where certain members of society I think we're touching where the best bots or even a mediocre bot
Society, I think we're touching where the best bots or even a mediocre bot
Seems a lot more like a rational human being then a lot of people I encounter online
Part of the part of the problem there needs to be to X speed on tik-tok to double the brain on that already
That hurts me so much that causes me physical pain
Part of the problem is that they're all wrapped up in
human disguises, I guess and
To have your deception detector running 100% of the time is not a thing most people do
They're saying they're also saying that Gen Z is supposed to be the most gullible generation ever.
Yeah, this is on Politico. Basically just talking through how
the sources of information that they go to
are so full of disinformation
that they just have no,
some of them obviously not all.
You guys watch the WAN show so you know
what's up but anyway the point is
therapy let's go but these platforms
are so full of disinformation and the
test that they did was apparently I was
about 3,000 students and they showed
them footage of like rioters, or not rioters, sorry, ballot box stuffers.
And we're talking about sort of election fraud and voter fraud.
And of the 3,000, three of them correctly identified that the footage was not in fact
from America, but it was from Russia.
0.1%. not in fact from America but it was from Russia oh point one percent there must have
been language in the in the footage no
no there wouldn't be because it's just
like talking talking over it text oh I
don't know you show a ballot box is
gonna be like writing on it a flag or
something anyways anyway three of them
apparently thought to like reverse look up or Google it or just
not take it for granted.
I don't know, dude.
It's kind of scary.
And to be clear, I think that a lot of our audience, and as much as this is sort of for
a really stupid reason, I think a lot of our audience is pretty well trained
to look for multiple sources, because for us,
choosing a component for our gaming rig
is like really, really important.
And as many problems as there are,
tech coverage is still somewhat okay
Like I don't think it's I I don't think it's been
Polarized the same way that political coverage has there's certain areas where I think there's a lot of that I think on like the Apple versus Android side
Things have devolved into the point where you can kind of not even really have a conversation
It's not so much that with consoles anymore, it's just depression.
Yeah, yeah, there's-
They used to fight, now they're just sad.
Yeah.
Sorry.
So I really, I'm not necessarily talking about our audience here, I think.
I think that, not I think that, I've seen a lot of evidence over the years that our
audience is a cut above the average YouTube, you know, commenter. Because I read a lot of comments on our channel, I
read a lot of comments on other channels, and I don't know how to say this any more
tactfully than I'm about to say it, but you know, the general
population on YouTube is pretty f***ing stupid, right? Whereas there's, other than
a few outliers, it's usually pretty well reasoned discourse on our videos by comparison.
And I don't know, if you disagree, then by all means, insult our audience.
The only reaction that I had wasn't that our audience might be better.
My reaction is that you're looking at YouTube as a whole, that might a better reflection of like society. Well no I know that's exactly what I
mean. Yeah. That's why I'm saying like these these issues with you know a lack
of media literacy you know not being able not being able to tell the
difference between you know someone with journalism credentials and someone who
just claims that they're a journalist every once in a while but doesn't
demonstrate any of the you know obvious care and attention to journalistic standards, right? Like not being able to tell the difference
I think the folks that are over here can probably tell the difference better than the general population
Yeah
One thing that I've been wondering about I've like actually been
thinking of emailing like trying to find a university that has a
I don't know, psychologists
that might work on something like this and email them and see if they'll get back to
me. But I genuinely wonder how much of it is the physical repetition. Because you know
how like people that get addicted to smoking, some of them will need a replacement for the
physical act of smoking, not nicotine. And something that I've been wondering about is
all of these apps work the same.
It's the infinite scroll concept
that you've actually pushed back on in the past,
but the infinite scroll concept of like,
Facebook works that way, Instagram works that way,
Twitter works that way, threads works that way,
TikTok works that way.
Everything is infinite scroll.
So this thing on your phone.
You're trying to get some product information, dude., and every website is designed for you have to scroll forever to find any information about it
I genuinely wonder how much of the addiction is
Just going doing this forever
Well people that will do this for five hours, which is not that much of an exaggeration
I mean there are like like near idle games
Where you basically just like click a thing or tap a thing or
So your your brain is barely functioning and you're doing some form of physical input and people will talk about how you come out
Of it like in a in a haze you don't even remember what you were doing for the last minute
Yeah, whatever so like how much of that is?
the the old TV concept of
clicking through the channels. Like how much of this is literally just you swiping your phone?
Because it's it's weird to me how ubiquitous it is.
There isn't any side scrolling one.
They're all the same thing.
All the apps work the same way.
And when you're like, oh, I should get off Instagram
and you load up Twitter, then you go do the same thing again.
You're not actually escaping because they all act the same way so they keep self referencing
Yeah, what is it about sliding our finger that is lower friction than tapping our finger?
I mean figurative friction by the way. I want to make this
Abundantly clear. We're not saying we're not saying we're like better than other people
I doom scroll loop doom scrolls doom scrolling we get It's not the same. We're not saying- And Tinder's not as popular anymore. We're not saying we're like better than other people.
I doom scroll, loop doom scrolls.
There's doom scrolling.
We get-
Doom scrolling happens.
We get caught in it too.
We're just, take this for what it is.
Two fish caught in the net,
talking to all the other fish in the net,
going how the fuck did we get in this net
and what the fuck is up with this?
I have to keep, I'm very proactive
about trying to set up tools to help me avoid it when I
can.
I will actively, like if I notice it starts to get bad with a certain app, I'll just remove
it from my phone completely for at least a minimum period of time.
I try to set up alarms, but sometimes those suck.
Yeah, and you can, ah man.
See I was thinking about this the other night. What the market
would be, because it's the classic XKCD standards strip, right? Like, why do so many standards
exist? Because everything else is imperfect and there's so many different standards. We
should just have one that's like the one standard to rule them all and then you just have another
standard, right? Okay, so I was thinking like, realistically, the last thing the world needs is another Android skin. But that video
on the light phone three that we did recently, which is like that super basic phone that
just does calling and text, you can take pictures and send pictures and that is it. I got like
700,000 800,000 views or something like that. So there's clearly interest in dumb phones.
But what people were really frustrated by
with that particular phone was that it's kind of useless.
You can't pay for parking.
You can't use it as a digital wallet.
You can't send Wi-Fi messages.
So you can't send messages on WhatsApp
or Facebook Messenger.
It doesn't run apps.
And I was thinking, if there was a justification for a new Android
Oh my God to exist
What's up? Oh?
You got a pie ad when you wanted to look at yeah, okay there you go
How many of you says that I can't remember the video?
924 yeah even more now so people are clearly interested in this
I was thinking that would be a justification
for a new skin of Android or for a new handset maker to make a
Like like a detox phone, but that actually has basic functionality So like one of the things that you're talking about setting alarms for like using apps
You can do that on basically anything you can say like oh
I want to limit my screen time to one hour of this a day, or whatever.
But as far as I know, they all just let you click add more.
Yes, or dismiss, or whatever.
And another big problem that I have
is this sameness between the apps,
because you can't do like, I'm gonna limit my social apps
to this amount of time.
So okay, what, do you do like five minutes?
YouTube has scrollable shorts, Instagram has like five minutes? YouTube has scrollable
shorts, Instagram has scrollable shorts, TikTok has scrollable shorts. And a lot of creators
upload to all of them anyway. X has stuff, there's so many different things. So much stuff. They've
got so much stuff they're gonna need more than one X pretty soon. Maybe three. Three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.
So you know, what about that?
You know, what about a phone where you have to have, you literally have to have an accountability
buddy who...
I would love it.
...who keys in a PIN, and when you set it, you actually cannot look at Twitter again
that day.
Amazing.
You can't.
Period.
Yeah.
Because the only solution for me was literally to remove the apps from my phone.
Yep. So I did that with Twitter. And Twitter's still off my phone. It's been off my phone for quite a while now.
But the problem that I have is like, I'll have a stupid app because one person that I know that's the only way that they communicate.
And then that app probably does other crap as well. And then I'll find
myself just like accidentally diverted and then oh whoa how long just went by. And it's
like darn it. So sometimes you can avoid those things more easily sometimes you can't. It
is what it is. But yeah, it sucks.
I really want to figure out, and it would be cool to me if someone made a video on it.
I don't know if it makes sense to be an LTD video or not, but like, what is the theory
behind why this stuff is so addictive?
I know like humans are generally addicted to information, and it's like absolute information
overflow to be able to just scroll, and there's new stuff all the time.
It's why scrolling on the TV was popular back in the day.
But I think there's a physical element to it as well with the actual scrolling.
I know there's a common perspective that comes up of like, oh, I'll just keep scrolling until
I find one more good one. But then how do you define a good one so then you end up just scrolling forever?
There's like, there's all these little concepts to it, but it would be, it would be interesting to
know, because I haven't personally seen addictionists to stimuli, not information I think.
Addiction is to stimuli, not information, I think.
I feel like we're gonna get in trouble because we're talking about non-tech stuff that we don't know anything about, and then people are gonna be like,
you should have known every single possible fact about this, again, every time, by the way.
But I thought it was both.
But I don't know.
Cool. Why don't we talk about whatever it is we're supposed to be doing right now?
Let's do some announcements!
Oh, let's do announcements!
So I would like to give a massive shout out to our team at MIBC, who's been handling
the shipment side of the ship storm
they have managed to keep pace with the
Unbelievable demand that the free shipping on orders over $150 LTD store.com
promotion has generated
Shout out those guys. That is why the ship storm stale sale event
Has been able to be extended.
Because our concern, as I explained when we first launched it, was that if we didn't end it after a little over a week, I think was the original timeframe,
they would be so backlogged that we wouldn't be able to get things over the
border before that May the second deadline when tariffs, I mean, at this
point may, may not, they could be this
amount, they could be this amount, who knows, but that was the date that we were
working off of and the numbers we were working off of indicated that pricing
would have to go up quite significantly. Anyway, we were worried that that would
be the last day we'd be able to ship stuff out, but they have kept up so
incredibly that not only are we extending the Shipstorm sale event, but we actually
have some new things to add to it.
The Power Outlet is apparently what we're calling our B-stock.
So at the Power Outlet, you can get a great deal on open box and pre-owned goods.
That's a pretty good name. We reduce waste
Everyone wins so we have open box backpacks. You can get a brand new one, but it's missing the box for
179 USD no cosmetic wear you can get a used like new with minor cosmetic wear and
Used a grade with moderate cosmetic wear and we've got oh that one's sold out apparently
Oh, okay, all we have left is new boxes well the point is we
Classic LTD store introduced that deal. Oh boy. Well hold on there's got to be more right. There's a bit. Oh
There's a used backpack between both of you to show off
There's a used backpack between both of you to show off
Well, we should probably get this to the shipment team so that they can put it up for sale because the rest of them are sold out
Cool the least expensive tier apparently sold out really fast followed by the lake like new tier the following day y'all blew us away
We still have some new open box ones available so you can save about 70 bucks on a brand new OG LTT backpack. Here's a question. Just note
that these are OG backpacks with either the old style carabiner zipper or without carabiners and just regular
YKK zips.
Okay, sorry. What is that sir? It says boxless, but I'm assuming it's still gonna come in a box.
It says boxless, but I'm assuming it's still gonna come in a box
I Wouldn't assume anything okay. It might come in an envelope. Oh really big one wow I don't know I'd be impressed
I'm sure it'll get there in one piece, and if it doesn't good job we also brought back mystery screwdrivers
But with a twist basically we're moving these screwdrivers so fast
We don't have time to pack them and also we're in a hurry because tariffs. Because we got to get them out before May 2nd, so we're
giving you 20 bucks off if you buy a screwdriver and included standard or knock to a bit set without
the usual screwdriver box. So that's what makes it mystery. It doesn't have a box. All mystery
screwdrivers will ship without a box. Look at that. We don't have time to pack mystery screwdrivers will ship without a box look at that
We don't have time to pack these screwdrivers blah blah blah all sales a final will ship without a box
Possible colorways are noctua beige or noctua brown, but it is the same quality
screwdriver Okay, what else we got is that is that it for is that it for this nerd?
No, we have a big nerd gaming a big nerd gaming
Nerd gaming oh no we have a big nerd gaming alert. We have big nerd gaming
Okay, are you like big nerd gaming if you watched secret shopper part one?
Hilarious we're pretty sure the guy on the phone said beginner gaming
But that's not as much fun as what we thought he said big nerd game, which is gaming
So we can click here, and we can see the design
Are gonna be big nerd gaming dude
Why is Sarah such a Chad?
Cuz this looks awesome. It was great. This looks so good
We are ready to go well. We're ready to go as soon as we ship these out by June the 27th Yeah, yeah, the all orders containing this are expected to ship later. This is a print to order shirt
But I'm super super exciting
I'm super excited and finally. Oh my god. Oh my god
Cargo pants are back in stock
Cargo pants are back in stock
Yeah, so that's cool
So we have different waist sizes. We don't have another inseam yet, so yeah, just the one I guess
Yes, I think at some point. We do want to add another one, but still out of luck for me
Just way sizes for now. We'll get there. Okay. I got more shirts. I'm wearing one of my new tall shirts now
I will get pants eventually with so many new deals and items we've extended free shipping to all orders over
$150 until Monday 10 a.m. Pacific time
This is likely going to be the last time we can extend this promotion
Since we need to make sure that your orders get shipped out and get over the border on time
Make sure to take advantage of these deals and the free shipping before it's too late
Especially if you're in the US you can find it all at LTTstore.com. Great work from the team.
They really pulled it together, getting some of these items,
some of these restocks up on the site.
The big nerd gaming was a Victor design.
Was it? Oh, he did a great job!
Fantastic work.
Oh, I gave credit to the wrong person.
It was so good, I thought Sarah did it.
Wow. Well, that is a high compliment indeed Victor it's good stuff you might call yourself
victorious that's my ding you stole that from that's my ding you stole that from
me all right what are we supposed to be doing? How about a merch message? Sure.
He's so sad. Hi DLL, I finally upgraded.
Oh wait, we should explain what merch messages are.
Oh yeah, I don't know what's going on.
I pirated your ding.
No, if you pirated it I would still have it.
I privateered your ding.
No, cause I would still have it. You stole it.
No.
You wouldn't download a ding. Merch messages. Whatever, just go on the store
and in the cart you can leave a merch message, producer Dan will get it and he will forward
it to me and Luke or he will just not. It's quite possible that he just won't. Yeah, you
get nothing. But you'll get your order in the mail anyway. Alright, alright, hit me.
Sure. Hi DLL, I have finally upgraded my graphics card from a GTX 970 to a 9070 XT.
Question, do you have any tips on an open world game for single player?
Best regards from the middle of Sweden.
It's 1 Celsius outside.
1, C, 2, F.
An open world single player game.
I mean, okay, sure, I'll bite.
Play Freelancer. It's not gonna push your... Open world single-player game. I mean, okay. Sure. I'll bite play freelancer
It's not gonna. It's not gonna push
Not gonna push your hardware, but it is a great
Underrated game. That's cool. I like it that completely runs out of gas in the last
10% or so because they clearly ran out of budget, but boy is it a hell of a ride up until that point
That's sick.
Super great answer.
Now we've got some floorplan announcements and a couple others.
And he's gonna say, how about Oblivion Remastered?
There you go.
Was that what you were gonna say?
Morrowind.
Morrowind.
Why not Morrowind Remastered?
I don't know.
If you haven't played it before it's still
good. Yeah you could you could do that. I think modern with the updates and stuff
cyberpunk is pretty sick. Try that out.
More announcements. Oh. Oh, just one?
But no, we can't do more announcements. That's too many announcements.
They can't- announcements are like half the talk. We're just gonna have to come back to announcements later.
I think we're supposed to do the Float Plane one now.
We gotta do the Float Plane one. We can come back to the rest of them later.
Fine. If you're a big nerd gamer or a beginner gamer,
get yourself an early screening of
Secret Chopper part 2 on floatplane which I am about to make live right now
Why would we do this? I'm about to make live
It says don't share your screen it does
Linus sorry, please share your screen. What? It says to share my screen.
And set the video to public.
Don't read this out loud.
I bet you read that out loud.
Stop reading these out loud.
Look, Luke, you literally can't follow instructions.
Alright, yeah, let's just do it.
Yeah, why not?
Okay.
This was supposed to come out Sunday, per our 48 hour early release advertisement.
However, Bjorn the editor and Plouffe who owns a monitor
that's true pushed through and delivered it for you guys now
nice to be ahead of the YouTube viewers as they have to wait over 90 hours to
watch episode 2
why does he want you to share your screen when you do it? why do you want to
share your screen when you do things?
but I... but I... are you concerned about this?
yeah up here?
Like why does that matter? I just we've just never shared this it's probably fine
I've just never thought about it or looked at it here exactly Dan. That's what that's what here's the float plane CMS
I tried to cover it with something and I was just don't click anything else
How dare you?
No, just yeah, just don't. How about here? No. How about legal agreement? No. You want me to click there?
No. Should I click?
Joe says don't look. Yeah
There's things you like. Everyone close your eyes. There's things that would be a major legal problem if you clicked on them
I'm not gonna click. I'm just saying I know how the CMS Dan give me my CMS back
Okay, public boop. Oh why take the risk?
Life is about risk take risks or be boring forever. That's true boom save
I don't think this was I don't think that work thing though
That's true boom save. I don't think this was I don't think that we're thinking though
Changes saved oh yeah, okay, well sure you don't upload things to the full plane dude. I haven't done it in forever
You know I haven't done it in forever
Yeah, we added the changes saved thing just because people didn't trust us well. Yeah, it was you yeah good. You should I
feedback I want a confirmation that my changes are
Nothing else is good. I mean if you grayed out the save
Then we wouldn't have this problem because I would click save and it would stay grayed out Yeah, but the fade and then come back is is indicating that no, but I haven't changed anything
No, that's old
That's old meta if that was ever the meta and the current meta is that I wouldn't be able to save if I haven't made
A change yeah things on the CMS don't keep up with current
Things on the CMS keep up with does it work
It's not live it just went live she says give it a minute
It just went live. Chewie says give it a minute.
Yeah, it just said.
And he says give it a minute.
It's a global thing guy.
This is one of the reasons why we don't want to show-
The same thing happens on YouTube.
Yeah.
It's normal.
Yeah, why do you think 25 people type first?
Surely, if that other comment was there, they would be smart enough to not type first.
Yeah.
But it doesn't show up for them.
Or they're dumb.
Also, not everyone gets it at the same time. It has to... No, that's what I'm saying.
That's the... that's the point. No, you said it doesn't show up for them. Yeah. Oh, I
thought you meant the other comments. Yeah. Because the other comments also
might just not show up. Yeah. Because the comments and the video are on different...
He's caught. He's all caught up. Anyways, the first one is hilarious. Oh my god, we need a doesn't know and we need a narcissist shirt.
Like separately? Yeah. Or like we do dual drops. Oh
We let people vote we let them buy the narcissist shirt or the doesn't know shirt
I wonder how many people would just walk around with a narcissist shirt. I feel like I feel like I'd have one of those
I feel like I feel like I feel like if I
feel like if like what's a brand that would do this what's some like really
expensive Louis Vuitton would just have a purse that just says narcissist I feel
like it would be an artist collab I feel like they might there is I feel like
you're more like a streetwear brand no way like a streetwear
X-something collab where it just said narcissist on it people are giving suggestions and float plane shot
I don't know if any of these are valid, but they're saying supreme blenziaga blenziaga
I feel like would do off white Marc Jacobs be a micro print and it would cost like a thousand dollars a foot
No and it would cost like a thousand dollars a foot No
It would just be made in China
Then they'll just tell everyone that it cost a thousand dollars already says vet months would do it
I don't know. I don't know any of you know who that is
Cuz I cuz I don't cuz I don't know Nick owes you a
Email about the shirts. Oh does he yes, okay?
There's no way Kanye would do it that That would involve admitting that he's a narcissist.
I don't think any actual narcissist would.
I feel like Kanye would just sell a shirt that said Kanye on it, and it's effectively the same thing. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Well we can uh... We got merch messages? What kind of car would he drive, Luke?
Why don't you tell me? No, no, don't tell me.
Guys, no, no. I could!
Anyways, merch messages!
I think we need merch messages.
Yeah, hit me with a merch message. Two more I think.
One more? I don't know. One more.
One more. Hello LDL!
Linus, how happy were you with your
Qualcomm laptop?
Need a new laptop for traveling
and light photo and video processing?
Block ads, buy merch at lddstore.com.
It was okay.
I'm actually not on it right now.
Man, it is a, dude,
did you check out the framework short circuit
by any chance?
No. So investment in framework disclosure the Dell that we used as our battery life comparison
was insane
No, but like
Insane are you checking it out right now? Okay, see if you can find the battery life. See if you can find the battery life comparison
That blah unboxing
Yeah, dude, dude, dude. This is this actually
Blew my mind
Okay our battery life test
For whatever reason is a little unforgiving right like we always
Literally always test lower than what the manufacturer advertises
Which is fine is consistent yeah it raises serious questions for me about what exactly it is that manufacturers are testing because
Like there's only so many things that you can disable. We're already in battery saver mode
We're already at 200 nit brightness like what are you guys even doing?
We're doing 10 AP playback the entire time disable your bluetooth disable your Wi-Fi like come on come on
What are you even talking about here anyway trying to simulate a?
Balanced workload anyway the point is we got it in the chamber. We're doing battery saver mode 1080p playback overplex
16 hours
That's incredible. It's wild why would I need a qualcomm?
It's wild. Why would I need a Qualcomm?
That's a pretty good point. Raises serious questions for me. It's not that I don't like the Qualcomm.
It's not that I didn't enjoy my time with the Snapdragon X. It's just that if like the
Are the current gen Intel mobile chips low-key really really really good? It's a
Pro premium how expensive is this laptop till pro that one's really expensive
Yeah
But a big part of why that one is so efficient is that it's using that chip and I think we'll also does some really
Cool things with their display for for up. Oh, these are not cheap
I mean Snapdragon X is not cheap either, but that is more expensive. That's like probably starting at around 2200 bucks or something
Yeah, yeah, yeah
No Dan told us to do more time. I'm Mike wasn't live. So you're just crazy. That's why I take control of soda
Okay, what are we supposed to be doing
Speaking of Intel they're having a bit of a classic coke moment
doing. Intel, speaking of Intel, they're having a bit of a classic Coke moment. Intel just dropped a new 200s boost BIOS profile for their Aero Lake CPUs,
like the Core Ultra 9 285k, letting you safely overclock without killing your
warranty. Early benchmarks from DeBauer indicate that it can boost gaming
performance by anywhere from 4 to 19 percent. But here's the twist. For laptops, most people are still buying
older Raptor Lake chips, 13th and 14th gen, because they're cheaper. And on the desktop,
nobody seems to give a hot gosh darn about the limited AI uses for the new chips and
therefore the new chips at all.
I don't think that's for laptops.
Oh for laptops. Wait, what? Why are we talking about laptops? For crying out loud. Okay. Well, whatever the point is that no one's buying Intel's latest chips
meanwhile
CEO lip-Boutan announced undisclosed layoffs
But prior to that Bloomberg cited internal sources claiming as much as 20% of Intel's workforce
Could be laid off in an effort to drive greater simplicity amongst other sweeping cultural changes at Intel.
Intel's also facing unexpected production shortages for its older Intel 7 process node as demand for
these more affordable chips continues to be strong. 20% of the workforce is like 20,000 jobs. So okay,
some of the stuff that I had kind of put in, um, some of the stuff that I had put in maybe didn't make
it entirely into the dock, but basically, yeah, the Intel, oh yeah, right, right, right,
right, right, I remember what I wanted to do. So I wanted to go on, you know, a site
like Amazon, okay, Amazon top selling CPUs, and see how deep we have to go in this list to find anyone who's buying
these desktop core ultra 200 series chips. Is anybody buying these things? Oh
Crystal asked what's a Coke moment? A new Coke moment. Coke classic new Coke.
So in back in I think it was the 80s Coke released new Coke moment. Coke Classic New Coke. So back in, I think it was the 80s, Coke released
New Coke and everyone hated it. And then they got rid of it and they brought back Coca-Cola
Classic. That's why it says Classic, because that's just like what it was before or something,
but also with corn syrup now. So I don't know, whatever. The point is Coke Classic and then
sales skyrocketed. So there's like kind of a conspiracy theory that they made new coke suck on purpose
So that they could increase sales of coke classic. I'm not sure if I subscribe to that but
that's
It feels like
17 D chess yeah
Apparently new coke was terrible. I never tried it. Let's dramatically risk the entire company for a crazy move.
Okay, so...
It happens, but damn.
Here we go. We finally reached an Intel chip at number 8.
It is a 12th gen.
At number 9, we have another Intel chip, a 14th gen processor.
13th gen processor. More Ryzen, more Ryzen.
We have a 13th gen at number 14th place.
We have a 14th gen at 16th.
We have a 14th gen at 18th.
Okay, we're at number 25 is a micro tick switch of some sort. Core Ultra 7 265k at 29th place.
To be clear, they're still selling a few of these things. It's got 188 reviews, which
is something. But when we compare that to, you know, like the 1200 1200 f a chip that clearly you know used to be a little higher with
1400
reviews
Yes, it's it's not a lot. It's not a lot folks a hundred reviews on the coral 29 285k
Just 37 on the 245k clearly people do not care about these things
Thousands a lot of AMD at the top on chips that people actually buy like the 7800 x3d like here
Let's find let's find something. Oh wow. This is embarrassing the 9950 x okay. This is that this is an almost
$800 CPU is
outselling Intel's
current gen like value gaming chip the 265k
it's not even close that's embarrassing
more more performance you know with you
know overclocking or whatever bios boost
200s boost profile great but it just doesn't it doesn't seem like
enough it seems like arrow Lake is just dead in the water at this point we're on
the we're on the US site or I think so wait did it go to dot-ca I hate it when
it does that forces you hate it when it does that yeah
no that was this was my fault I clicked the wrong thing I did click a.ca link
that's my bad well anyway still my point stands
all right sucks to suck
um no key asks do you think the ultra CPUs were made on purpose for laptops
but had to release them as desktop variants to satisfy a quota of some sort
I mean that's basically as far as I can tell been what's driven Intel CPU development since they released like core
And that was that was back in like the mid 2000s was they they recognized that power efficiency was
going to matter a lot and then the the only times that they have sort of deviated from that or when they like sucked and
the the only times that they have sort of deviated from that or when they like sucked and
Had to had to juice up power just to get performance decent. They've been very mobile first for 20 years. Oh, yeah, yeah
Don't forget about don't forget about server
But that's the funny thing is like enthusiast desktop is this one kind of little island of not caring about power consumption in a sea of
Definitely does of server caring about per core power consumption a lot and mobile caring about per core power consumption a lot
So we just get whatever's kind of left over
We're also like the worst market for them out of those three probably unfortunately
Oh, yeah, the most vocal and cranky and least loyal.
Like you look at mobile and enterprise, right?
Like they just have regular hardware refreshes that they just they just buy.
And they don't feel like validating another vendor.
I mean, that's how Intel has managed to be behind in in server
performance for years at this point, but still maintain greater than
50% market share until I think it was just like one quarter ago or something like that.
There's more to it than just that, but a big part of it is once you're bought into an ecosystem,
you just reorder it, you just get the new one.
Well good luck Intel.
Chrome might be for sale.
Yeah, and I don't know if I love the list of people on the buyers.
Where's our article for this?
It's at the top.
Mom, you go ahead and do it.
Since Google has ruled a search monopoly in last August, the Department of Justice is
now seeking a plethora of penalties including forcing Google to sell Chrome open AI is
100% interested in the browser promising an AI first experience that
Editorialization on the side we all definitely want everyone wants that people have been begging for that
I want that we all for sure. I love how when I click in a Google Doc
And I just try to position my cursor at the top it opens up AI bullshit. It's like hey
Can I help you with this? Oh wow yeah? I mean that one everybody gets one right? How could you possibly help me with this?
I haven't started typing yet
It's a document. It's not even a response to an email. It's a document. We're all we're all super excited about this. Thank you very much open AI
I think actually this would be great if you did this please actually you know what?
Maybe maybe it's good if they do other browsers might do hold on hold on hold on maybe it doesn't do it in the document
Maybe it only does it in emails. I'm pretty sure it does it in the document
Where it does maybe there needs to be content already in the document G suite
No, it does it for my Google Sheets as well. Yeah, it does it in the document
I don't have content in there yet or anything. I'm not sure
But anyways, maybe they do this and then everyone hates it and other people use other browsers and that might be good for the world
Or something we'll see but anyways there are
Yeah, I have I have help me write and generate document
They show up right at the top when I have entered nothing into this document yet because that's what bothers me
I I'm not actually
That bothered by AI assisting tools as long as I can just ignore them because I don't really personally need them
But if I have not
Entered anything in the document yet yeah what
could you possibly be hoping to autocomplete generate document help me
write templates and more to be I can generate a document generate document
yeah it's it's a wizard that's why it's able to help oh well I hate it because
it's supposed to help people with writers block that's why it's still to help. Oh well I hate it. Because it's supposed to help people with writer's block
That's why it's still there even if there's nothing. But they already have the templates button. The thing that drives me nuts is
No, this is stupid. No, I've maintained it's stupid. Generate document asks me if I want to do what party planning?
Hold on what does it have? Do I want to do party planning, a newsletter, a planning document? It's a wizard
It doesn't just stop there. To launch new strawberry and matcha whatever? Yeah do it. No, I won't. You want that for sure. I don't want it. You want strawberry matcha whatever.
Okay, I got templates. Meeting notes, account plan, blog post. Which is not a wizard. Business proposal. They're never in thangs!
I don't like it either, but they're different things. The thing that drives me nuts is that all those options are in line with your cursor at the top of the screen.
Oh, yeah, so I can't click. Why click Get out of the way. It's so annoying
Anyway, like I don't even I don't even mind. I don't even mind this up here. Yeah, that's fine like fine
Whatever be there, but oh you know what that's probably it. I just don't have it
Activated there we go. That's the problem. Oh god. You're gonna make me pay. Yeah, right
Yeah, I mean I do pay for it pay for it on my stupid work account
Do we have to keep G suite forever? You don't pay for it. Oh
Linus Media Group incorporated does sorry no we don't pay for Gemini. No we had to they that we got into a
little bit of a
You know Luke interacts with sales employees at large companies.
We had some back and forths and they didn't give us as much of a discount on our G Suite thing as we had last year because they're really trying to push us to pay for the AI thing,
but we did not. We did not pay for AI tools.
And I...
Based?
They were very pushy about why and I told them.
And they were good.
They were pushy about why?
They were like, why?
They're so helpful.
Why don't you want the AI tools?
Oh, well because they're f***ed up.
Trash.
They're so bad.
It's not even, like, so bad.
I didn't say trash.
They're in the way.
Yeah, they're not good. I's not even, like so bad. I didn't say trash.
They're in the way.
Yeah, they're not good.
I am trying to get work done.
They're invasive, they're often not helpful yet, blah blah blah blah blah.
Maybe it's a thing in the future, but it's not right now.
And it's really expensive per employee.
So like, getting the actual value out of that, when there are so many free tools out there,
that take almost no additional lift
and are a lot of cases better.
Gemini's doing well right now, but I mean whoever's winning the race is constantly changing.
Anyways, OpenAI is interested in buying Chrome.
Oh cool.
They also, they, they even just buy access to Google's search index with an exec stating in an email that
was revealed in the trial, we believe having multiple partners and in particular Google's
API would enable us to provide a better product to users.
OpenAI has reportedly considered buying its own Chromium-based browser, hiring former
Google developers Ben Goodger and Huh oh wow and Darren Fisher
Who helped bring chrome to market yahoo of course why not yeah?
Still exist how yeah who still exist I?
Don't understand
Like who's I think that'd be a wild company to work for. Every once in a while, every once in a while
I end up on like Yahoo Finance because I need to see like like the history for a particular stock ticker. Which I've heard people care about.
Who is using Yahoo?
Yeah, see someone said Yahoo Finance is great. Yeah, it's like the one thing people see. I still have Yahoo email
My dad uses their email. Anytime I see anyone with a yahoo email. I am I
Have a really strong like throwback moment like wow like you really you just have really just dealt with that for a long time
Have you like dang that's not what you were gonna say?
Know what you were going to say no, they're a very strong person we all they have they have dealt with we all know
What we're gonna say why don't you just say consider they consider the impact on?
If they changed emails and how they might be harder to contact so they just they just stuck through it and and
Have to use it. It's good. It's good. They're very strong. I'm impressed here's streaming down the face
good there very strong I'm impressed here streaming down the face
anyways yeah who's looking to run its own browser because why not either through developing or buying one yeah who searched general manager Brian
profs estimated yahoo search market share could jump from 3% to double digits if they're able to buy chrome. Wow double digits
I would hope it would jump to double digits if you buy chrome
Also isn't that just saying that we're gonna use the chrome browser to advantage our own search product exactly the same way that Google's doing it
Am I missing something here? I'm sure I'm missing something here. Wasn't there a South Park episode about this Walmart Jim's drugs?
It's just gonna happen to Yahoo yeah honestly also
Yahoo estimating that they have 3%
market share seems stunning to me I
don't know if that's true I mean how
much of the population of the world is
Japan because doesn't know right Yahoo
right something I forgot that might be a
thing handyman says Google is a
monopoly others are not but the thing is that like
the same behaviors that turn you into a monopoly are
Like just as wrong when you're not the monopoly, but while you're building toward being a monopoly
That's like kind of the whole idea of antitrust
There's been a little talk of spinning off Chrome into its own independent company as
Google has contended that Chrome can't survive on its own.
Sorry, there's been little talk, not there has been a little talk.
Perplexity actually agrees and would rather Google keep Chrome instead of being forced
to sell it to another company like OpenAI.
Perplexity is a competitor to open AI just to be clear however if a sale is
forced perplexity would like would be down to buy Chrome as well obviously
they probably just don't have the I'd be down to buy Chrome if I could afford it
we should get we should get all youtubers together we can make our own
browser if you want and buy chrome surprisingly easy we should just buy chrome nice
Why if every one of our viewers contributed one dollar
Youtubers could buy chrome all from Google and then we could own chrome
Why?
Because chrome is what you use to watch YouTube, okay?
but you can watch on other browsers. If you are a dinosaur and you're not already watching on your phone or your TV or
Firefox yeah, well people don't watch YouTube on Firefox, they watch float plane on Firefox.
So we'd only be buying it for like Millennials that are still using computers. Yeah. Oh, yeah to buy the airplane tickets
No, that's a thing no I agree. Yeah, that's do not make me buy airplane tickets on a phone, dude
No, I can't I will go on a computer. I can't we were shopping for
Yvonne's getting a new car and purchases need big screen
We were shopping for it, and I was trying to look at it on the phone and it's fine but I can't compare. Yeah. I need to compare. Yeah. So we ended up at
her desktop with the nice big ultra wide monitor with the spreadsheet with all
the links. You were talking earlier in the show about how Gen Z is much more
gullible. Is this part of why the tools that they'd have don't naturally lend
themselves to like comparisons? And they're not maybe they're just not accustomed to making comparisons
I could kind of I could kind of see that like the friction to make a comparison on desktop
I mean we've had arrow snap on Windows almost non-existent like 20 years or whatever. The computer almost wants you to do it
Yeah, you just you take your one thing and you throw it on the one side you take your other thing you throw it on the other side
Your computer's like yeah, and you make comparisons whereas phones
No, it sucks. Yeah, it's a bad experience terrible switching tabs in your browser and your phone sucks
Unless you have Sam's on decks. Oh
Come on
That's a very high friction to go take your phone somewhere and plug it into something and yeah
I mean, I'm not being serious. I see I
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Yeah, it's I just don't use it like what I want an even smaller screen. You got to be kidding me cool
I can look at the tire on this one car and the tire on this other car and compare it that way
Yeah, I think that's actually a pretty good point
Yeah, and like no add ados and floatplane chat says no. They're just lazy people don't want to self-educate anymore
I don't think that's it. I think they think they are self-educating so we're trying to figure out like what is the
Like you've identified the disease, but we're trying to figure out like you know what infected them
Yeah, you know like where did this come from?
Why?
Apparently there is dex wireless, okay, you could do that, but
You're still just sitting at a computer. It's not the point and the habit the habit of whenever you do things
Hold on. I'm sorry the issue is that they don't have the habit, the habit of whenever you do things, going, hold on. I'm sorry.
The issue is that they don't have the habit
of going and sitting down at a computer to do something.
So they're not gonna do that regardless
of whether it's sitting down at Samsung Dex
or sitting down at a gaming desktop or whatever else.
It's just that that was our habit
when we needed to do something.
When we needed to buy something online,
we would go to the computer.
So it's just ingrained in us. I can
buy things online and I will I'll if I'm just grabbing some like hooks for my wall to hang
things in my garage, whatever I'm I'll just like go I'll just find the first thing because
it doesn't make much of a difference if I pay $3 for it or $5. Like yeah, and one of them I'm paying
66% more, but I don't care. I'm making a quick decision. Okay, I found this, it ships into
okay, boom, done, Google Pay, done. Right? But for something like you said, flights,
vehicles, houses, I'm at my desktop, I gotta be. And that's just like not a thing for the
younger generation apparently. So good luck on your sale of Chrome Google
Our discussion question is consumer welfare really the best lens to look at antitrust through if breaking up Google only results in
different bazillion dollar companies
turning surveillance capitalism up to 11
Extremely dollar companies turning surveillance capitalism up to 11 extremely ethically gray AI companies and Yahoo for some reason are the only ones seemingly
jumping on this I mean yeah who would want to own all your browsing data other
than someone who wants to capitalize on it, right? Like there's no good guy is gonna want Chrome.
And...
Yeah, you're not gonna make a pricing model for Chrome itself.
Like that was my point with the youtubers buying it and him being like,
why? And that's exactly it. Why?
Yeah.
There's no reason unless you just like wanna own the internet and own internet standards and all of that.
Yeah.
What are we supposed to be doing right now Mr. Dan?
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sensitive yeah all right what else you want to talk you want to talk about
oblivion already or like what's it what's your dealio there? We can.
There's more announcements.
How do we want to deal with that?
Yeah, do them.
Yeah, why not?
Oh, no, no, we already...
Guys, we have to do actual topics at some point.
Why are you pressuring me?
Let's talk about oblivion then.
Okay, I have to pee.
Where's the...
Bethesda Shadow drops the Oblivion Remaster and everyone liked that. Kind of.
There's some sources here from GameSwap and PzGamer. A lot of places have talked about this.
The notes say, like an arrow to the knee of my free time, the Oblivion Remaster was announced and released with one trailer and two game engines, which I'll explain in a moment. It got over 150,000 concurrent
players on Steam on the first day despite having effectively no advertising and also
despite the fact that it is free on Game Pass. Reddit slash r slash oblivion abominations
has gone wild with all of the characters that people are making
oh Yes
Oblivion character creator is fantastic Wow
Someone made pot of greed. Oh boy. Oh
Man oh
Nice Squidward. Let's go. Oh
Anyways good stufflivion's great.
Uh, da da da da da da. Bethesda also gave free keys to the entire Sky Oblivion dev team.
Uh, it's- it says in here to make them feel a little less sad about wasting years of their lives.
Uh, many, many, many years of their lives.
Also, someone posted this
which honestly I didn't.
I might this weekend but I didn't. The first thing, the literal first thing that I heard about it
that wasn't just a rumor was that NPCs didn't have schedules anymore. And what I really liked back in the
day was being a sneaky little thief guy and stealing everything. And my favorite quest
chains were the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild. And by far my favorite quest chain
in Amurowind was in regards to the factions was the Thieves Guild. So without schedules,
I was like, what the heck? And then somebody corrected that for me.
And apparently they do have schedules.
So I don't know where that rumor came from.
Cause I, once I first heard that,
I looked it up and found it,
quite a few people saying it,
but they do seem to have schedules.
I think the confusion there might be tied into that
one trailer, two engines comment that was made,
because the UE5
engine is just dealing with the graphics the game logic is still being ran by
what is called game brio I think it's game brio the the engine that was
originally used for oblivion which has created in my opinion a pretty fantastic
result actually because I was very standoffish.
First of all, I'm even with it being out now, and now I do own it.
I was much more interested in, and still am much more interested in, the Skyblivion project
that's still coming this year.
And I'll probably be diving in more so to that.
I'm going to dabble with this
remaster but I don't know if I'm going to like fully try to beat the game or anything and I'll
be I'll be more interested in the the Skyblivion remaster. But yeah there was a bunch of things
that put me off. There's the schedules thing. I heard that in the EULA they talked down on mods, but apparently they're not against mods at all.
And Nexus mods, I believe, already has like...
I think Barrington was saying last night that they already have like hundreds of mods for the game, and it's been out for days.
I've heard a lot of them are drag-and-drop, because it's the same like core engine in a way.
That makes so much sense.
So it should be a little more approachable than something like... I think
SE took a while to get in because it was slightly different and then Skyrim VR
also was very difficult if I remember. Yeah so there's 529 mods already which
is pretty wild
And there's some things that is like kind of broken like I couldn't go to 1440p
Oh, I already clicked away from it, and now it's on stake. Why are you on state? I must have clicked an ad
Gambling vegetarian I
Eat right unknown mushrooms or something. Anyways, there, yeah, but but apparently there's like an Ionifix that you can use to to solve
that and stuff.
But anyways, it seems cool.
And something that I really appreciate about it is that it has the same quirks that it
used to have because the underlying engine is still Gamebryo despite UE5 taking over
the visualization stuff. There's some funk on like how
the color palette and lighting works is different and more tame than the original oblivion because the original oblivion was like
Bloom everywhere and everything's glowing all the time
So if you want that back you can mod that back in I think the game probably looks better
I've watched more than just my hands. I watched my whole arm here check out you did yep
why cool but yeah it seems it seems cool I am still more interested in sky
bluevian and I recommend that you guys still look forward towards that project
and maybe don't tap yourself out on the remaster because Skyblivion in my opinion just looks better. That team is being very
gracious right now I think. They've made multiple posts. Thank you for not shutting down our project that we've been working on for years.
We will never make fun of your games again even though they are trash. Well
they used to be good this one
was some of the newer ones are not as good but thank you so much also are you
ever gonna do a new elder scrolls game remaking oblivion doesn't really count
that's what we were doing they did have an outside studio did the work on this
virtuous I think it's virtuous was that Linus found a quarter of the toilet something like that that would be a great reason
But yeah, I don't know it's cool. I think
There's a lot of people
Going with the like ah this is an example of how new games suck now
And I mean living kind of sucks. it's literally the original horse armor it is
the original there's new horse armor
that was all that was the other reason
why I did that was my topic jump on it
right away was that they sold horse
armor again I don't know if you see this
no oblivion remastered so if you look at
the steam page oh hold on
whoop this is not lying, let's go, if you go to the Steam
page and you scroll down, they make it look like the Deluxe Edition is needed for the
expansions.
Oh, interesting.
Because you go up here and you're, okay I'm'm buying oblivion remastered. Yeah, I scroll down
It doesn't say up here like oh it includes the expansion by the way by the deluxe
Oh my god. They want these two options 50 US dollars for this game
It's a lot or is it less than that is it 40. I think it's less than that 45. I don't know whatever either way
You scroll down you see this and this is the first time that I saw Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine mentioned at all personally
but no so I was like okay so if I want Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine I have to
buy horse armor effectively. That sucks so I refused to buy it originally
because I was just like there's no way. I'm not doing that no chance
Turns out the base game does have the expansions
But a ton of people didn't even know that because this is super misleading
So bought the deluxe edition effectively just buying some armor some weapons and horse armor along with an art book and it's not
Technically what they're saying is true
The deluxe edition does include the expansions.
Yeah, it does.
So this is-
They just don't point out like-
And digital Deluxe content technically is some armor, weapons, and horse armor.
Everything they say is true.
To me there's a lot of misleading stuff about this.
No, no, no, I'm not saying it's not misleading.
I'm just saying it is technically factual
The the in the border I know they say digital deluxe content on the right and
Then over here it says includes, but the border around the base game is different than the border around the other two things
100% like it really feels like it is and I don't think
things. 100%. Like it really feels like it is. Oh yeah. I don't think...
Yeah like under here you look at what it includes. It details the base game and then way separate from that it says Shivering Isles and Knights of the Night
expansions. It really does. And it's just I don't see it mentioned anywhere else
that it does include those in the base game. So that was another reason why I
held off but then I figured out that... That's cray cray. Yeah it was just misleading but it does include it so no I didn't get the
digital deluxe because screw that noise I'm not buying horse armor. How will your
horse be armored? The funny thing about horse armor in the game and one of their
justifications for it was that it is in fact purely cosmetic it does not in fact
armor your horse. And your horse can get attacked. Yes very much so your horse can
become very unalived literally doesn't help you
They say it's all the DLC was included in their presentation when they shadow dropped it so this is piss poor self-education
That's a hilarious take in my opinion because you're now saying that everyone that should buy this has to watch their presentation
They comically bad take. Which is actually hilarious and
not how like people work or really anything works. That's brutal. WhiskeyNerd we love
you thank you for subscribing to Float Plane but that is a terrible take. And again I did
end up figuring out how it worked and did end up buying it so I think the self education
was fine. It just shouldn't be that hard. Yeah, it's a little ridiculous, but it's doing super well
They have tons of players and I think they should be happy
I'm just I am at least partially holding back for the skyblivion version, which I
Will be very excited about I
had to put my appointment back on
Washed off the I knew because I saw it on you earlier, but I was
Prepping just anyways, it's fine my equipment. I got him LMG Sammy
I bought the deluxe edition because I thought the horse armor meme was funny, and I wanted the cool armor
But I don't know how to get it's a quest. Let me know Sammy. I
Thought you bought it for the expansions. Yeah, that was not the
Indication that it was actually just more sad. Maybe you just didn't self-educate on what Sammy said. That's true
I didn't finish reading it for I reacted
Classic influencer. That's why everybody fucking hates them. It's worse though. What he said is like just actually worse
I think I know I don't know what to do with him
How do you spend more money on a company on the one hand? He does a great job
He does the other hand he's definitely gonna come to softball night this year, and I fucking hate that
He's infuriating
Why is that he's just it's like he's trying. It's like he's trying to make me lose
It's softball I want to to win softballs very competitive company
Is this because he goes on your team too much, and he's bad or is it because he's really good He goes on he's just an he's a pure agent of chaos like he he ran over
Ariana yeah, I was there for that literally like
Plowed her over right through yeah. Yeah, just you never want to plow the head of HR
The way wasn't in that much of a hurry realist well he was but didn't need to be I
Never lost is he is he flawless win rate
I don't believe him has he only been there once I don't believe him
No, no he's been there more than once. Oh, no. Yeah, you know he comes pretty regularly Sammy
I'm looking forward to seeing you there by the way
Chewie's organizing a batting cage thing get in touch so that maybe you'll actually hit something this year
It'll be great. We'll have fun. He said I might not go this year lol. What are you weak? Oh?
I'll see you there
All right, okay, what else we got?
Plenty of things we do need to ding emote
We need a bell emote. Yeah, how do we not have a ding emote in the in the float plane chat?
What is your team not like doing work or what?
Sorry, I'm just feeling kind of aggressive right now
They are doing work. They're doing work on things we can't talk about. Oh, like what?
Good stuff. Yeah
Good. Yep. You sure? Yep. Dude, this was actually this week was kind of awesome
I don't know if we've revealed this yet, but whatever
I'm gonna do it. We shot a collab with kitboga. Mm-hmm. That was so much fun
There's gonna be videos on both of our channels
I'm not gonna give away anything about them, but it's with kitboga
So you can imagine that it's gonna involve put one or two things together scammers and computers and fantastic
Messing with scammers with computers You know something along those lines. Yeah, no, dude
We we had the entire production team
Including ourselves because fortunately like there's no video right so we don't even have to keep a straight face
We had the entire the entire room just like in stitches
multiple times to the point where we had to like mute our microphones because it was
Just like some of the outlandish stuff that happens. It's gonna be great
That's good, and then I've got another collab upcoming where we're gonna be working with badminton insight
So they're a big badminton channel big big week for clubs big week for clubs. It's awesome. Oh
Big badminton channel big big week for clubs big week for clubs. It's awesome. Oh
What are we supposed to be talking about?
Microsoft publicly rolling out recall to consumer copilot plus PCs again along with improved Windows search and click to do
Microsoft is launching recall. No really for real this time, via Windows
update to all copilot plus PCs. It is available now via the April 2025
Windows non-security preview update. It's being accompanied by an improved AI
powered Windows search interface, because that's what the Windows search
interface needed, and a new click to do feature which is similar to Google's
Circle to Search. Recall was originally supposed to launch in June of last year but was
delayed following concerns brought up by security researchers and there were many. They have spent
10 months overhauling some of the security of Recall, part of which is making it an opt-in
experience. Okay, that's good. That's actually very good. The database is also now encrypted
and attempts to filter sensitive data by default. I thought that was supposed to do that.
Maybe it's just better at it.
None of these improvements help third parties who may be communicating with someone who
has recall enabled, such as via chat, email, etc.
However, alongside recall, you can now use Windows Search with natural language queries.
So if you're looking for an image of a brown dog but can't remember the file name, you
can just ask for brown dog, and then it will bring up a web search for brown dog
I suppose click to do is also available letting you highlight texture images and have AI interact with them the description makes this sound almost
Like AI powered right click right oh god demo available use the laptop recall is pinned to the taskbar
Silver on the corner there for you. Oh, no
That's the other side of your laptop
Is it this yes ah oh lordy all
right well hold on a second our our laptop partner for the show Dell
probably doesn't want me to show you guys what this other laptop is you want
to get some tape no I'm No, I'm just gonna Wow
That was smooth, okay, there we go
His name is Dan actually
What's going on I can do that trying to get HDMI
You can do that yeah, right you can't even lift two and a half pounds. Oh my
Sorry, it's a bit of an inside joke. Have you even ordered them yet?
Yes
Doesn't seem like it. It's not exactly that they're out of stock out there
My god
Yeah, okay
Sign in options, but okay. I
Don't have it yet. Okay, you don't have a what the laptop you don't have the laptop not yet
We mean don't have a Christian. I have it
No Not yet. What do you mean, don't have it? Of course you don't have it. I have it. No, the, the, the, the screen part
That goes on my screen.
Wow, look, it's in stock. Seven dollars and fifty cents.
Sounds like a bit much. Can't you just use like-
Yeah, why can't you just lift a heavier weight?
Just put like a rotisserie chicken on each side or something.
I- I can't lift. I gotta- I gotta grab those. I can't lift it. Gotta eat them.
So, what, grab them by the rotisserie chicken
Okay, I said it's a 1080p does that help no maybe plug and unplug plug and unplug
Okay, I will try that if you just buy a pair of them. It's so late. Yeah, Luke
I told you I might have free access to a gym nothing all you have to do is carry
It's not really a half pounds to the gym with you. I helped design it. It's five pounds because I need to bring two of them
It's a lot of weight
Sorry, what's that Dan? Still nothing. Still nothing?
Two folks on show production.
I don't know what to tell you sir, this is as God made it.
It's definitely doing a thing.
It's detecting, yeah.
When I plug in the thing, so I think this may be an issue on your side sir.
Okay, it's gonna issue, one sec.
Okay, I'm gonna say show only on two.
Now theoretically you are the only one with an output my screen is black
So that he can be the one who definitely has an output
I'm putting out for him. Oh
You're sending me 1080 by 1200 I can't deal with that or Or let me try doing- Oh no, is it doing the stupid thing?
Let me try doing a thing.
No, I think it's doing the stupid thing.
The active signal versus the, oh I hate that!
I hate that so much!
Just give me a sec.
Can it just never, okay.
Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Microsoft, all four of y'all,
get rid of that.
Get rid of it completely.
The whole active signal resolution,
variable or desktop mode, and then being different.
If I change the resolution,
just let the panel do the scaling,
nobody else touch anything.
Leave it, oh I hate that so much.
Unplug and replug? Yes. Every single
time this has ever been a thing, it has been a problem. And I cannot think of any problem
that it solves. What problem does that solve? It sends the native resolution to the panel. What does that have to do with the external display?
Nothing.
Leave it alone.
Send whatever resolution that I set.
Don't do anything else.
Obnoxious.
Okay, I'm...
Do you want to force it to 1080?
I'm going to try, but every time I try and do this, it's a gigantic hassle.
It's caused us so many problems in the past.
And overriding it is like a pain in the butt.
No, I can't do anything with the Nvidia app because it uses AMD.
So there is no Nvidia app, and I can't remember...
It's more display modes.
Do you want me to come and fumble with it?
More display modes?
Sorry, where is that?
Oh, it's Windows 11. I can't remember
Brilliant it should be under advanced display and then
Wait, I'm using a computer. I could just check here. I advanced display
Display adapter properties seems you guys need some tech tips list all modes. Yeah, that's the one I
Swear to God. I've done this. this. I am in 1920 by 1080, 60 hertz. Yeah, I'm still getting to 100.
I know.
For the black magic?
It's this stupid obnoxious thing.
No I think there's something in AMD's software where you have to do something.
Can you just set all of it to 1080?
No, I am set to 1080.
On both displays, I mean.
They are both set to 1080, Dan.
Oh, good God.
I swear, they're both set to 1080. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuthuhhhhhuthuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhuh Think like custom custom custom resolution utility or something like this is like
Mmm. This is one of those things that makes me scaling mode. I don't know really met no scaling won't do it running out of time here
Yeah, I think we might just have to give up on this
I can give you the laptop. I really don't think it's gonna do anything though
This has been such a good segment
gonna do anything though this has been such a good segment yeah great job everyone maybe I'll just do another topic yeah maybe just get a Dell next
time because when I plug into my Dell it just flippin works
it's a pretty good advertisement just an idea money please because we did a it
was technically a call-out for someone who's technically a sponsor
Anyways, uh discord CEO Jason Citron steps down to be replaced by former president of King
Also known as like the guys who made Candy Crush ahead of potential IPO on April 23rd
Discord CEO and co-founder the person I just mentioned uploaded to a
Uploaded a post to discords blog entitled the passing the torch
Striction goes on to share that they have hired a new CEO
Human sakini
That's a pretty sick first name definitely not an AI like that
Yeah
And that citron will be stepping down to a board and advisory position within discord
Sakini's previous roles include vice chairman at Activision Blizzard as well as King president of King digital entertainment makers of candy crush
Discords other co-founder
Stanislav
Vishnevsky Vishnevsky Vishnevsky almost is continuing his role as chief technology officer
This change comes amid media reports that discord met with investment bankers to discuss a possible
Initial public offering as soon as this year a discord spokesperson told CNBC in a statement that it does
In quotes not comment on rumors or speculation and that it is
Quotes not comment on rumors or speculation and that it is
Commented on a lot of rumors and speculation over the years, but sure
Yeah That is focused on delivering the best possible experience to our users and building a strong sustainable business to me
Honestly, that is just like yes, we're doing it
But anyways
Discord currently has two hundred million global monthly active users playing a combined
1.5
Billion hours of games each month while on the platform. All right discussion question. What are we gonna switch to from discord?
It will almost certainly and shitify I still use team speak everyone's wrong
mumble anyone
We could go back the old are largely still there, which is kind of weird actually mumble still exists
I'm pretty sure mumble still exists. I think ventrilo still exists
I know team speak still mumbles totally still exists. Yeah, dude. What when did they get when was the last version?
Stable version show me a date show me a date on this. What? Okay, here we go.
Dude, December 8th, 2024. That wasn't even that long ago.
Yeah, vent. Look.
45 commits since this release!
Dude! Look, look.
Ventrilo is totally still a thing. That Windows logo though. Good lord. That is incredible.
Can you speak still around look they have among us meme
They're still around how timely and relevant yeah team speaks Twitter just memes about how like
You know it discord will go down for a second, and they'll be like finally users
so they like they're like
making self-owned jokes and stuff but uh yeah
there's still a thing what would what would what in crappification would it
take for you to stop using discord people would need to leave it I feel
next to no alignment at all with discord I would be happy to switch to Teamspeak tomorrow.
Would you consider switching to just Steam?
Like Steam has one of the big reasons that everyone got off of Steam because
everyone used it. One of the, as their gaming social network. Okay.
I haven't tried it because it sucked. I don't know if it still does. Right.
So they didn't have it and then it sucked
Would we just go back to steam?
Apparently steam voice is really good now, and then the next person who replied said it's kind of trash
So wonder when the last time they used it though if they think that it's trash
Well like discord is more than just games. Yeah, I mean we use discord just to like chat about things that are not
It's also more than just games
Steams mobile app
Not amazing not amazing
That's definitely an event an advantage for discord not that I ever get a notification when you message me, but sure whatever
I got a notification that you messaged me. I think yesterday this morning cool. I was like yeah
I was like wow he's ignoring me. I'm unfriended
turns out discord
unfriended me
Can't see my podcast moving their communities into steam
Yeah, sure. I don't know it's it's uh
But I mean discord had that other savings. Yeah, this court I don't know. But I mean, Discord had that same perception.
If you have a good product, people used Skype for gaming, for crying out loud.
Skype did not have a gaming brand back then.
I think people will use a good product for whatever it's good for, regardless of the
branding.
Modern TeamSpeak also has the chat and picture and stuff sharing features that Discord has.
Does it do the streaming thing that Discord does where you can screen stream and stuff?
I don't know on that.
No, we're not using Yahoo chat waffle with syrup.
Yeah, I'm not sure on the screen sharing thing and discourse pushing that hard.
I don't know why.
I haven't really been able to figure that out.
Maybe they are, maybe, yeah,
what would they be doing with that?
In Teamspeak communities, you can stream,
but you have to pay for them and server files
Server files aren't public yet
You mean server files to like self host the streaming stuff is that what you're saying?
I'm not sure what that person means cool on my self hosted server. I cannot screen share okay
Yeah, so self hosted you can't but there's you can which
Okay, kind of makes sense
So yeah, but what would, what would it take?
Basically, well what do you think it would take for any of your gaming
buddies to get off of Discord? Like a major privacy incident or like a data
collection change in the terms of service or just generally getting a
little less reliable? Like what is the what's the in shit vacation?
That would that would drive people off of discord if the if they go ipo and just
Kind of suck now because like reddit it doesn't seem to have mattered they went ipo they antagonize their users everybody still on reddit people seem
To have completely forgotten that they were mad if you don't switch platforms at reddit
forgotten that they were mad. People don't switch platforms anymore. It's a weird thing. I mean we talked about this with, we've talked about this
a few times on WAN Show, how like YouTube, Reddit, all these things they feel
extremely rooted now. Like this is how the internet has like figured itself
out. These are the sites that just will stay for whatever reason. We used to go
through social media platforms every couple of years,
and now things just stay.
No matter how bad they are, it seems like they just stick around.
Yeah, people just don't switch because we seem to have like critical mass or something.
I'm not sure. So I think a big part of the problem would be switching everyone. And I
don't think a privacy incident, almost no matter how big big is going to switch everyone because
as much as people scream about it I think most people unfortunately just
don't care okay well I think the audio quality on team speak is fantastic I
think there's other things about it that are great
What it like? Switch 2 pre-orders have been kind of a nightmare and scalpers are trying to cash in.
After a delay to assess the changing market conditions, Nintendo opened up the North American
pre-orders for the Switch 2 on April 24th and it was very hard to secure one. There are a ton of eBay resellers
who are selling their secured pre-orders like the butt heads that they are. Please report them.
In Japan, where they're offering a discounted Japanese-only version of the console for about US dollars, over 2.2 million people entered the lottery
for the privilege of giving their money to Nintendo.
So if you were questioning whether the Switch 2
will be a success as a gaming platform,
I think you can probably put that wonder to rest
at this point.
Yes, it is more expensive than the Switch 1. No, that does not appear to matter. I'm not surprised at all
Even a little bit. That's that's pretty wild to me. Those are just monstrous numbers like oh the numbers are yeah
Those are crazy what I mean is I'm not surprised that like scalpers are an issue and everybody's going for it that that works for me
I
Don't know I kind of I kind of believed in Nintendo that they were just gonna like make enough of them.
And I guess you just like you can't make enough when you have eight years of pent-up demand for a
Nintendo console that doesn't look like Donkey Balls on your TV.
I mean the Switch was an old phone when they launched it. Donkey Kong balls. Super hairy
and big. He likes bananas. Bongo-tastic. Bongo balls. The European Commission continues to
be a beacon of hope. The European Commission fined Apple 500 million euro for blocking app developers from steering
users to cheaper payment options outside the app store.
Meta also got hit with a 200 million euro fine for its consent or pay model, which forces
users to either give up their data or pay for ad-free versions of Facebook and
Instagram.
Honestly, I was kind of okay with Facebook's approach.
I was totally fine with it, to be honest.
Just don't use the service.
However, Facebook Marketplace dodged major regulation under the DMA after the EU found
that it had fewer than 10,000 business users, so it is no longer designated under the DMA.
The note here says, Linus isn't convinced by that 10,000 business user number.
Expand on that thought for the class. I'd be happy to.
Simply based on the number of commercial entities that I see
selling stuff on Facebook Marketplace here, whether it's cars,
or services, or whatever else, across the entire EU, you're going to tell me
there's less than 10,000 of them? I do not believe you.
I think that's dramatically under-reported.
On a more consumer-friendly note, starting June the 20th,
all smartphones and tablets sold in the EU
must come with a label showing battery life,
energy efficiency, and repairability ratings.
How cool is that?
Does that mean there's gonna be a standard
for evaluating these things?
Is there a standard for...
A, B, C, D, E. For Reparability Class.
Yeah, yeah, that's not what I mean.
A standard? I don't know.
How do they rate them? I don't know.
Who's rating them? I don't know. Someone is.
How do you rate Reparability on a scale?
I don't know. I fix it, does it?
Yeah, but that's one individual company. Well I'm just saying EU Repair, I'm sure there's a rubric.
There, EU Repairability. What's the rubric for battery life? What's the test they're
doing for battery life? Repairability index, calm down. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm
saying I want to see it. I'll fight you. What are we fighting about?
Repairability scoring system product bureau Europa.eu
Repair okay here. We go including scoring here. You happy okay cool. Gee. How did they do it though?
Welcome to the website about product repair ability wow that is like the most European headers that I think I've ever okay project plan
Project plan oh my God
Documents where's scoring then related links oh
oh boy I'd be really interested to see how they score across so many different
devices repairability and battery there's a second draft report okay smart
guy oh boy oh boy oh we need an AI summary stat. Oh, hold on, hold on. We got no no we got the thing. We got the thing. We got the index the table of indexes
Disassembly depth
fastener type tools spare parts
Software updates repair information other relevant parameters selection of scoring parameters, okay
I'd be really interested to see how... Disassembly depth, page 17.
I'd be really interested to see how scaling, how this scale works versus the iFixit scale.
Okay, so disassembly depth, here we go. Where is it?
It said it was on page 17. Disassembly depth, here we go.
A score is assigned for each priority part based on their disassembly depths a
Discrete rating is proposed points are assigned at priority part level so rating class one
Disassembly depth index less than or equal to two steps is five points if you are 15 steps of disassembly depth
That's one point. That's a priority part so a priority part I'm assuming- Would be like a screen or a battery.
Or a drive.
Cool!
I'm assuming.
Okay.
Sweet.
I wonder how they do battery.
But that is very cool.
I mean most batteries don't move around much so I'd imagine they just Do the battery yo
Use of battery, and then you spontaneously combust
Someone pokes you need to blow up
Dive your Samsung in
Got him note seven note seven zing wow that's timely
What are we supposed to be doing right now, Dan?
You got about five minutes until when after dark? Oh. Oh yeah, you have an out.
Oh yeah. I sort of forgot about that. Yup.
The LTT subreddit has corrected Linus's take on
American cheese. He was wrong again. I think I was also wrong but I'm gonna
point it at him because it says Linus's take.
Uh, not my fault this time. Didn't have my name in the subject. He was wrong again. I think I was also wrong, but I'm going to point it at him because it says Linus's take
Not my fault this time didn't have my name in the subject It is indeed made primarily from real cheese with some added ingredients to change its texture
The two linked threads point towards the video by Nile Redd on his secondary channel Nile Blue making American cheese on his own
We're not going to watch that here. You guys should go watch it. Yeah, the discussion question is is it cheese now?
It doesn't taste like cheese
May and maybe part of the problem what are the other ingredients the particular brands
It's like salt and something or the butter and milk powder something normally
There's an emulsifier as well like a xanthan gum or something. Yeah
You can make it yourself. There's great chef steps video on making yeah
It's a chef steps is great the ones I've eaten are disgusting
So I'll say that much because it's mostly not cheese dude. It's alive with Brad is actually amazing. Oh my god. Yeah
What's that? Oh or is it live with Brad is that bon appétit? Yeah, wait. I'm talking about the wrong one, but yes
I like both of them both of them are great. I got them conflated, but I do like both of them
So it has cheese in it, and that's good, and I like my cheese in a brick
Chef's this makes the jewel right no that's a they make the anova ah
Apparently used to be bon appétit, but he went solo Chef's Office makes the Joule, right? No, that's a... they make the Enova. Ah...
Apparently he used to be Bon Appetit, but he went solo.
Cool. Either way, good stuff.
Game Over There says American cheese is good exclusively on sandwiches with really cheap ass lunch meat.
Ah...
I mean, the menu has a line in it at the end that American cheese is the best cheese for putting on a burger
because it doesn't split when it's
Heated to a high temperature doesn't split. That's what the emulsifiers are for by split. Why would it split?
Well, the oils
Separate have you ever made like hollandaise or something like that? Yeah, it's great when the oil separate
You like it when it gets grainy and like grainy. What do you even talk about? What kind of cheese are you people eating?
This is normal cheese if you overheat normal cheese. Well, why would you overheat it?
Get good say you're making a cheese sauce or a girl. I thought we're talking about a burger
Yeah, you put on a hot burger like put on a hot burger and then when it's melted you eat it
What's wrong with you people?
Someone says Linus you don't cook no, but I can put we're not talking about cooking. We're talking about putting cheese on a burger
That's not even- that's not even cooking who cares?
Linus can't cook conf-
What are you guys talking about?
No, honestly though. Okay
Both of you. I have handed both of you at some point or another a hamburger with melted cheese on it.
Are you telling me
That I that I prepared both of you. Explain this to me. I don't know if there's any evidence of this happening
You know for a fact more than one time
more than one time I
Love I love how exclusively talking about cheese melting on hamburgers went to Linus
can't cook I like it just what is wrong with you people I'm just talking about
emulsifiers in American cheese and cheese like-
The conversation of which Linus was following.
Yeah, but why do I need them?
What's wrong with the-
What's wrong with the melted cheese that's just-
that doesn't have emulsifying agents in it?
It just stabilizes it for temperatures.
Who cares?
You're making a cheese sauce-
But I'm not making a cheese sauce!
I'm putting cheese on a burger, damn it!
Then use whatever the hell you want!
But what do the emulsifiers do? Someone said it doesn't do a thing!
Shanner doesn't have the same effect on hamburgers as American. What do you mean the same effect?
It adds a cheesy flavor!
What f***ing effect do you want from your cheese?
It makes the burger taste less like plastic.
You want it to tap dance
We're gonna put some red it again because of you lighters
Cheese discourse
It's supposed to melt I know look unique username goes you don't know shit, just do the correction, you're gonna be called a narcissist for weeks again.
No I'm asking a question!
And no one's answering it.
Nobody is answering the question!
What is wrong with just melting regular cheese?
And there is the line!
Dan's right.
At the end of the menu, he talks about how American cheese is a dust-on-burst.
Yeah, but what Linus is talking about is completely reasonable. Wha-wha-what? What does it do better?
It just holds itself- What do you mean it doesn't- no!
It just holds itself together better.
What the f*** are people talking about?
It works fine!
This is user error, I'm sorry!
So I think what I'm- if I- if I'm making an assumption here-
They don't split!
What do you mean split?
The burger's not gonna get it up to the level where it's going to
like de-emulsify.
De-emulsify what?
We're talking about burgers!
Yes, but
cheese is a suspension
and the milk solids
can separate out. If you overheat
like say a cheese product
in a fondue or like in a cheese sauce
Why would I do that?
Well, you wouldn't on a burger, which is why I don't know why they're freaking out
Why would I do that in a cheese sauce either just control your temperature? Yeah exactly
Like yeah, this is just cook it right. This is a great answer. No, this is like saying you need to use like garbage
Garbage chocolate because you can't be arsed to use a double boiler like what are we even talking about?
I don't know you mean like tempering chocolate, which sucks
You could just do that with an immersion circulator, but like oh
My god, this is dumb. Just use normal cheese. It's fine minus
You don't need I will don't need to have American oil separating out of the cheese, are you talking about how the oil kind of pools on the top of the cheese?
Like it sweats? Is that what we're talking about when you heat it up?
No.
But that's what people... I'm reading the chat!
When you're using real cheese, it kind of wraps itself around the burger a little bit, right?
I mean, yeah, if you leave it in for too long.
A little bit, sure. Okay.
Well, why would you do that?
I think what they're talking about is when you use the sliced American cheese thing,
it will literally keep its shape and like stick out even after being cooked. Because it becomes
less heat sensitive because it's basically... So it's not gonna wrap around
the burger. It keeps that like I am a square of cheese thing going on.
You want that behavior also the the pull is way better. People are now saying no
it doesn't do that so I guess I'm wrong.
I have no idea.
Cheese stays on the burger.
How are you guys knocking all the cheese off your burgers?
That's not true unless you're talking about processed cheese food.
Is that not what we're talking about?
Literally the opposite, it melts more.
It melts better.
Other cheese separates even on a burger, which leads to way more oil.
I have never had a piece of cheese separate on a burger in my entire life
The oil is already in the cheese. There isn't more oil. Okay, so what they're saying is that it melts more and wraps
More around the burger. It wraps more around the burger. That's just because it's very thin
Yeah, why would you want that? I like a big old thick I can afford cheese slice of cheese on my hamburger. I'm not gonna
put
I like this actually. LMG exclusive Linus Barbecue's burgers with five different cheeses to test it out. I think that's great.
I think that's fantastic.
It's great for grilled cheese.
You know what else is great for grilled cheese?
cheese oh you know what else is great for grilled cheese learning to just cut cheese evenly with a knife and then putting cheese on your grilled cheese
you get some incredible strings dude there's absolutely no way that I would
put like American cheese at least like a Kraft single is that what we're talking
about we're talking about Kraft singles That's what I thought we were talking cuz that's my understanding That's what I thought too. Yeah, I would rather eat
Plastic then eat Kraft Singles on a grilled cheese sandwich. I'm sorry
I mean they say so okay, so American cheese
Especially when you use using a brand with emulsifiers like sodium citrate melts exceptionally well and creates a smooth fluid texture
according to Bon Appetit.
This contrasts with some other cheeses that might might become clumpy or greasy when melted.
Skill issue. Okay, what else we got here? What else we got this week? I'm gonna freaking lose it.
And and uh so Kraft singles are apparently bad. Whatever they use at Subway is also inedible
That stuff is trash. I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I don't even have a dog
Okay, if you want the properties of American cheese
Just follow the chef steps video and just get some real cheese and then just put some chemicals in it and you're done
It's real cheese, but with chemicals. That's it. You processed
it. Veridian is still mad that I'm saying it doesn't lead to more oil because the texture of
the liquid is different. Yeah, but that's not more oil. That's just that the oil is on top of the... I
mean, by the time you're taking a bite of a burger, a little bit of liquid oil in this thing, is that
a concern? I mean, it's got a beef patty on it right like come on
I don't know I don't I've never seen an oil with like camembert or like a real you don't take the burger apart and like
Lick the top of the cheese. Why is the oil there a concern? Personally?
I eat my burgers like Oreos, so I don't know what you're talking about. You don't come in milk
Like a hot dog eating competition
I want to see Linus do the cheese jar challenge. Oh god. That sounds awful. What is the cheese jar?
I don't know, but it sounds like it involves like cheese whiz they made me eat cheese whiz as like a like a like a spin for
Punishment thing on a live stream a while back, and I just about vomited it was horrible
Horrible this didn't even come up with anything it came with like the great jar trial from
Eldred ring I have no idea 30 minutes left can we talk about not fake cheese?
I mean real cheese, but it just has emulsifiers in it
I mean real cheese, but it just has emulsifiers in it
We can talk about the slate truck the
$20,000 American-made pickup truck with no paint what no stereo what and no
Touchscreen so it's amazing Michigan-based slate auto has developed the slate truck meant as a blank slate to be extremely customizable and extremely affordable
It's expected to be sub 20 grand after federal incentives, assuming those stick around, aiming for a production
start in 2026. Instead of steel or aluminum, the body panels are unpainted molded plastic,
or as slate calls them, injection molded polypropylene composite material. The unpainted body was
designed to take advantage of the trend of vinyl wrapping cars. They offer vinyl wrap kits directly or you can DIY it.
There's a configurator that is live on their site right now.
Oh, personalize your slate. Let's go.
Boom. Slate truck.
Environments.
Color dip.
Okay. color dip uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uh-s So vinyl vinyl wraps definitely not a lie. This is cool Okay, even show like if you if you don't want to like go through all the work of getting like very legitimate speakers
You can just do this
Um
Wow what it's just a Bluetooth speed is you just print a I'm assuming you just 3d print a Bluetooth
Hotdog holder yeah, that is hilarious. It's like yeah, whatever just yeah, you know you want some sound you don't pay for speakers
throughout your truck done the truck does not come with any infotainment at
all not even a radio
Slate intends to make information regarding basic repair and maintenance
available through a Slate University and they have a partnership with already
established nationwide service centers for work on things like the high voltage system or for customers
Who just want the work taken care of they will not be doing sailors through a dealership
But through direct sales online and pickup locations similar to Tesla
So discussion question here is would you buy a vehicle that is lacking everything but the absolute basics?
If you did would you intend to drive it as is or would you upgrade it slash make it your own? I'd upgrade it and make it my own and I would absolutely buy one.
Yeah, sick. This actually seems super cool. Like it's one of those like, yeah for
real though, like I already have a phone. Yeah, whatever. Or a tablet. But like, and you
could set up a screen in there that you connect your phone to that just like
makes your phone screen bigger and more easy to interact with like that's fine
But you can set that up your own self, or you just get one of those and you're totally fine
Look actual button. I am
Control trillion percent sure someone will come out with some maybe slate will themselves some way to add
like proper speakers
whatever
This seems legitimately pretty cool, that's sweet. I think Bezos backed it though. That's gross
No, don't quote me on that hold on
Slate truck, it's still cool
Bezos backed yes
Still cool. Yeah, you can you can still get one. It's still pretty cool
You can make yourself feel better by just watching Bezos faceplant by the
by the spaceship. Just watch it on loop for a little while. Have it
like side by side because you're making a major purchase right so obviously
you're at your computer. So you just put Bezos faceplanting as your center sort
of subway surfers on the side and then you configure your slate truck and
that's fantastic. It cancels it out. That's good. The truck is all electric,
carrying a 52.7 kilowatt hour battery
that powers a single rear motor,
producing 201 horsepower and 195 foot pounds of torque.
Acceleration from stop to 60 miles per hour
would take about eight seconds,
which if this was 20 years ago would be like, amazing.
So it's probably fine, you're probably're probably okay relax driving range is estimated 150 miles and there's an
optional 84.3 kilowatt-hour battery which will increase the range to 240
miles that's pretty good there's also a dual motor all-wheel-drive powertrain
that is potentially in the works and it charges with tesla style ports Yeah, I think those are gonna win now payload tops out at fourteen hundred and thirty three pounds
towing at a thousand pounds
This is like more than what almost everyone needs that the whole like zero to sixty time thing like what?
It's cool. Most people aren't gonna really care
I think we got past the point where it really matters to the vast majority of people.
And if you want to have fun with your Porsche, go for it.
I do.
But like most people that want a $20,000 truck, like, dude, can it get up to speed within a safe period of time on the highway?
Yes, cool. I'm like, I was out of that, doesn't really matter much.
That's fair enough.
This is sweet.
Uh, SoCal Tech Fair.
Apparently we're a sponsor.
Nice.
That's super cool.
Let's go.
Our team's been working on...
Get some- oh.
Wha-
Wha-
Wha-
Wha-
What's he doing there?
Meet and greet- meet and greet with the one- the one and only Colton Potter.
We fired him and now he's working for them
Imagine that what a guy
Anyway hold on there's a bunch of notes in the dock so this is Jays two cents slash heights
SoCal tech fair happening in the city of industry, California on May the 3rd and 4th our team is sponsoring the tower of power
booth activity
Where you can take part in a frantic 2v2 motherboard stacking face-off
to see which tech community team gets the highest height in under two minutes.
Random hardware provided, stacking ability skills unfortunately optional.
You can win LTTstore.com prizes including commuter backpacks, screwdrivers,
magnetic cable management, sticker packs, and more.
And if you come on Sunday, Colton will be there to say hi and you're fired.
Good catchphrase.
Has anyone ever thought of that before?
Some other cool things happening at the event.
There's an AMD CPU trade-in offer.
While supplies last, you can trade any AMD CPU
in any condition and get a free ultimate upgrade
to the AMD family, an AMD Ryzen 7 9700X
and an ASUS B650 motherboard combo
that also qualifies toward a free copy of Monster Hunter wild. So how does this work? There's got to be
It's got it. Is it like a raffle or something? Sorry, but it what what what what is this?
Hold on. Where's the where's the info on this?
Okay, so Caltech fair
control F
AMD
AMD cares trade-in program there's got to be while
supplies last is is I'm assuming a big part of this this trading is limited per
day per individual paid ticket holders okay it's basically a sweepstakes then
yeah I think it's a sweepstakes I think they mean ticket holders as in ticket to the event.
Yeah, I know.
How's it a sweepstakes?
Well, because not everyone who buys a ticket to the event is going to win it.
Test your luck.
Test your luck on the AMD Plinko board to receive tickets to win daily GPU giveaways.
Wait, so it's a separate thing.
Because of course it gets even more loaded.
Sign up and enter yet another free PC giveaway with two times another separate thing okay depending on
AMD cares so fair challenge rating challenge rating what are these coins or
the their bank coins what their bank point AMD cares depending on trade in
restrictions TBD five minutes limited trade-in while supplies last I mean yeah, there's gonna be there's gonna be some kind of gating
There's absolutely no way that every single person who attends is getting a free CPU and motherboard
So it's got to be the well supplies last part. I yeah, I mean good luck a good luck
With the getting that because that seems like a very good deal
Also, I buy power is to have a GPU garage sale. You can learn more and get tickets by searching SoCal Tech Fair
or at the link in the video description. Also, the Boink Pentathlon 2025. The
LTT Forum Boink team will be competing in the Boink Pentathlon 2025 running from
May 5th to May 19th. In this event, we'll go up against other tech communities by
contributing computing power through Boink to support scientific research and progress.
While only Boink points count toward the Pentathlon, we'll also be tracking folding at
home stats for anyone signed up. If you want to join the competition and support science,
you can find all the details and sign up info on the LTT forum. That's linustechtips.com.
Just look for the Boink pentathlon 2025 thread
All right, it's time for after dark I
Assume I can find this easily not Boeing Boink Bo inc Boink
Where would they have posted that probably here right yeah here we go
community
Boop Boink pentathlon
It's just pentathlon. There's no second a oh
Yeah common mistake
Pentathlon sounds better. I know some Mandela effect here
Bernstein Bears yeah
Brenstain. Brenstain. Oh yeah. After Dark, let's go!
Are they even bears? Alright, I got some merch messages here for you! The one that gets me
the most is the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia thing. Yeah, that messed me up. That one,
like, had a therapeutic conspiracy there. Do they not have a chronocopia?
The claim is that they don't, but I specifically
remember learning what
that was
because of asking my mom about the-
Yeah, apparently that's not a thing.
What? Yeah, no, I don't-
It says fact check, click into it, let's see.
I do not believe that at all. I don't believe it either, man.
Are you sure?
Yeah, the Fruit of the Loam logo that never contained a-
What? No, this I've never seen, but- What?
Rating false.
So it did, basically. No, no, no, scroll up, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll.
The claim is that it didn't, and then that's false.
Yeah, okay. At some point in the past, the Fruit of the Loam- No, no, no.
Yeah, fact check. It has never contained one. What? Rating false. Yeah
Okay, scroll up slightly. What is happening? Stop there. Read the claim and then read the rating down. At some point it contained a cornucopia
That is false. Oh
Meaning they're saying that it did not contain a cornucopia, but I don't believe that I also refuse to believe that. What? There's no way dude
It's been disproved. What's been disproved? That it contained a cornucopia
is strongly held an
Image of the- They're saying that's not real. But that what? Which there's like no way
What? This is a fabrication not an actual for Froot of the Loom logo. Like, what are you talking about?
I- I- there's no way. The only thing that I thought of was we used to, um,
they disprove Froot of the Loom's claim. Is that true?
Did it never contain a cornucopia?
Okay, cuz this actually looks pretty familiar to me as well.
I-I-I-This looked very familiar though.
I swear that one's real.
This site apparently-
Maybe their logo has emulsifiers in it too.
Fruit of the loom.
I mean-
There's proof they did, it was marketing.
But then why does this thing say the claim is false?
Well, this is Yahoo Finance. I don't know't know I this doesn't look right to me though
found in thrift stores more examples sent to Snopes appear to have their origins
in a June 2020 that went among other things the other example of some from a TikTok video
proposed cover-up as one of the greatest marketing ploys in history the provenance of
these photos is unknown and as a result their utility as evidence is limited.
Ah, okay. I don't know man.
People are saying the site is wrong.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm very upset right now.
I could have sworn it had a thing.
Wait, an early version did have it but it was dropped? What
is this? Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Okay, well. Okay. Well, anyway anyway after dark oh
Man I'm so upset. I was also a Shazam Kazam
Bamboozled or Ler I was bamboozled I
Whatever the wrong one is I thought that Sinbad was in a movie called Kazam But also but but it's actually Shaq in a movie called Shazam or whatever like I could have sworn
I remembered seeing a VHS of Sinbad as a Genie
But apparently that never happened. So yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing Mandela effect man the cornucopia thing
Like I I refuse to give up on that because I very specifically remember being in the car
Coming from a thrift store having bought a fruit of the loom thing and asked my mom what that thing was and her explaining
The word cornucopia. That's how I learned the word cornucopia was from the fruit of the loom logo. Yeah, so I don't know
Do you think it could have been knockoffs? Yeah, maybe yeah
That's the only theory that's made sense to me because back then we got a lot of stuff from from thrift stores and secondhand and stuff
like that same area and
Maybe maybe maybe maybe but why are you knocking off fruit of the loom? I?
Don't know anymore. That's the last remaining thing for me. It's like, weren't they cheap in the first place?
Maybe that's why this timeline is so messed up.
So...
Because they... they changed something.
Who's making a knockoff version of the cheap brand?
I understand the Fruit of the Loom website says, no, I don't care.
I don't believe it.
He doesn't care. He doesn't believe it.
Okay.
Alright.
Why has email not changed in the past 20 years number one time annoying thing in business is email
Why haven't anyone come up with a more efficient way to process email threads?
Change that was a huge change. I mean, there's still a lot of issues like
formatting and like text formatting and
Like reply formatting in email chains
when people are using different services or clients can still get a little bit
messy but overall email is for me not the number one most annoying thing it's
actually really annoying when people send me anything that needs actual
thought put into it via any means other than email because as soon as I have read
something like on my phone if it requires more than two seconds of thought I thought put into it via any means other than email. Because as soon as I have read something,
like on my phone, if it requires more than two seconds
of thought, I can't reply to you right now
because I'm in the middle of something.
And I will never think to reply to you again,
because now it isn't marked on red
and it's not sitting in my email
where it can be carefully organized
and isn't just gonna get buried the next time
someone messages me something
because the way that sorting works on messaging apps is not
Ideal for the way that my add brain works
And there are more efficient ways to process emails. There's like priority view in your gmail inbox
There's like AI reply help if you're
Unread those probably in the last 20 years a Yeah, huge difference maker. Email has definitely changed. Email was largely processed on like email clients and I remember
it was like an actual job back in like the Geesquad era to like backup people's email
files so that you could transfer them to their new computer and stuff. Email has dramatically
changed. It's way better. Way better now. The search in Gmail sucks
but other than that it's way better.
It's really wild. Oh crap! Don't do that
Lioness. We both cleared and so we cleared
two. Oh. I'll read one while I look for it.
Question for Luke. If you could, would you
own bigger birds like parrot-sized? No
because if you could he probably wouldn't own the size of birds he has now
Never thought about that. We're gonna find you can we have to do seven medications a day. You wouldn't even have to squeeze that hard
We have to do seven medications to a blind kid and my god and we have to give them
Milk milk thistle milk thistle. I think that's milk thistle,
medicated water basically.
It's crazy.
Okay, okay, here out, charge nuclei.
Chickens.
I bet you don't want chickens.
I used to keep chickens.
10 out of 10 birds.
Chickens are probably the only one, and it's they have a utility. I mean technically
bungees have the same utility you're just
you just have a hang up about it. Eating
their eggs? Well I mean not everybody
just eats the chicken eggs. Oh there's
really not a lot of meat on a bungee. They got feet too.
I'm not saying it has a ton of utility. It would hardly even
constitute a snack. I'm just saying it
has some. Legitimately. I'm just saying it has some.
Bagel bite?
No, I don't even, like... A trisket.
Just a trisket. A little trisket with melted cheese. Proper cheese. And then a little bit...
But then it might not be properly melted, Linus! You clearly don't know how to cook!
Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!
You clearly don't know how to cook! Shut up! Shut up!
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...... Say Yeah, no indoor birds I don't want a bigger one because the poop is a problem budgies the poops not really that big of a deal
But I want to be able to allow them to fly so if you have a larger bird that has big goopy poop
You don't want that flying all over the place. There's pictures people have shown me of like their monitors
In the back of their monitors just like covered in
It's gross okay, don't want that in response to the hands in response to the next merch message. This is not my wife
What this is not my wife oh
Our next merch message. This is a Hong Kong based
Actor she's 50. She's a little old for me. Pretty impressive filmography,
which is nice and good for her, but she is not in fact my wife. So this next Merch message,
Merch message. Hello Linus. You've mentioned Yvonne is from Hong Kong. As someone else
who married a girl from Hong Kong, I was wondering if you've taught the kids Cantonese and go back to visit from time to time. I have
never said my wife is from Hong Kong. She is not from Hong Kong. We do go back to
visit the country that she is actually from, which is Malaysia slash Brunei, but
I don't know, once every 10 years years or so we actually just went back and
Yvonne does not speak Cantonese she speaks a little bit of Mandarin from when she was a kid, but barely these days
Yeah, Mandela effect again here. We go here. We go
No, I did not not not scrap EDP. I'm not being mean. She I'm not saying she's old. I'm just saying she's a little old for me
She's 11 years older than me
What?
What
You know when people get to a certain age yes their age band tends to increase their age band
Yeah, what they're acceptable with and I'm just saying maybe you're up there. Maybe I'm up there. Yeah. Really.
How old are you now? 38? Don't worry about it.
Hold on. Which one is it? Crap. Uh, yes, barely though.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you you went There are definitely 38 year olds that would date 27 year olds
I and and I might say I don't know they seem a little
for you
I'd young well, okay, the thing is
young
Yeah, they're stating down 11 years. I don't think they're a little oh, sorry no, no, I thought we're going the other way okay
um I would say I
Would say that if an 11-year gap works for someone then that's fine
It's huge. It's huge. I wouldn't do it you you do you in either direction
That's a lot you do you?
Well, there's like a generational gap
That's a lot. You do you.
Wait, there's like a generational gap?
I don't know.
Moukantouche says, lol Linus thinks 27 is a little old for a 38 year old.
I mean, it's a very different, it's a very different life stage.
It's fine. It's not like a...
Like I'm in the middle of my career and I'm dating someone who is like getting close to the end of theirs potentially,
especially if they work in film.
And so like, we're just going to be at completely different life stages in a very short amount of time.
That's a major concern for me.
Like, I like that Yvonne and I, the other more different Yvonne, the one I actually married, are going to like age together, you know.
to like age together you know barring any kind of you know knock on wood horrible you know health affliction or anything like that we're gonna mostly
fall apart at probably almost around the same time ish you know it doesn't all
goes according to plan it doesn't gross me out I wouldn't do it and it's going
to be surprising to me but yeah I don't do it, and it's going to be surprising to me. But, yeah, I don't know.
I just think if you're gonna be cool with going X amount of years down,
you should also be cool with going X amount of years up.
Yeah, I'm not saying it makes any kind of...
But if you're not cool going X amount of years down, then yeah, fair enough.
I like that Yvonne and I are the same age, and I totally recognize that other...
things work for other people.
Yeah, it's fine.
Totally fine.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally fine.
Okay, Mick81, dating a 37-year-old.
Are we talking about Mick Jagger?
Hold on.
I mean, that's not your girlfriend at that point. That's your that's like your
Like caretaker
Melanie Hamrick and Mick Jagger 44 year age gap
So I'm saying is he should be open to how old is he again?
Too much 81 was it said yeah, I think so open to how old is he again? too much
81 was it said? yeah I think so
I don't think that's legal
I don't think you're allowed to do that although he could probably afford
to what he wants
Bill Belichick is 70 and his girlfriend is 24 four
All right, here we go
Okay, that's normal
Fans fear for him after her bizarre social media post. I mean...
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a mismatch at all.
You know? Yeah.
Is that the bizarre social media post?
That's not bizarre.
That's- that's awesome.
That's super normal. That looks great.
That's adorable.
That's cute, if anything.
Okay. Well, anyway. That's cute, if anything. Um... Okay, well anyway, uh, that's-
Someone said surely he wasn't allowed to eat until she took the picture? Who cares?
What?
Who ca- that might even be true!
He also is eating!
He's like totally, like, starting on it while she takes a picture of her food. Calm down.
Get off it.
My goodness.
Calm down.
This is what happens when the cornucopia goes missing. The world just goes back. Everything is gone. Downhill zits. Yeah.
I can't do this anymore. Yeah.
Okay. Hello fellow humans. Would the AMD APUs with great graphics performance,
do you think GPUs will become less popular? Yes, they already have.
Especially cheap GPUs. They basically don't exist anymore. Boom! It's AMD's fault!
I accept this.
This is true. NVIDIA's thoughts. Slash S. Oh my god. Through the roof. Slash S, please. No, no, no, no, no, no. He said it.
He said it. He said it.
Go after him on Reddit. Make a thread.
Go after him on Reddit. Make a thread.
Yeah, just add it to the cheese one.
I don't care anymore.
Hi, LDD crew.
Hey, now that Linus has now developed a few products, is he a fan of quote unquote, designed
by committee?
For example, Microsoft or a singular guiding vision, aka Steve Jobs?
Nothing, neither.
They're both stupid.
Wait, what? The correct answer is having a singular guiding vision and
consulting a committee and taking the best ideas from your committee of people that presumably you surrounded yourself with because they're smart and then
combining all of those, reaching a consensus about what the best product is to achieve the vision,
consensus about what the best product is to achieve the vision which may have changed through discussion with the rest of the team and then creating a product
that is better than what any one of those people would have created but not
as directionless as what an entire team would have created. There you go, you're
welcome. Someone disprove this. Way back machine fruit fruit calm through the loom logo
But fruit calm is their actual website just fruit.com
Yes, it is
It was archived on April Fool's no
No way, so did the fruit of the loom company for April Fool's put up a
logo with the cornucopia in it caught him
What a troll that's actually an amazing troll, it's pretty good. That's actually fantastic. That's pretty good
All right, well you know what it's been great hanging out with y'all
I mean doing a therapy session with y'all yeah, we will see you again next week same bad time same bad job
How long can I I can pause forever
You could be late for your thing. I'll just leave