The WAN Show - Google’s Best Feature In Years - WAN Show June 5, 2026

Episode Date: June 6, 2026

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All right, here we go. What's up everybody and welcome to Taiwan show. We were here for Computex this week. And of course, the highlights are, well, one of them is from Computex. Invidia wants to power your next Windows laptop with their RTX spark chip. We are going to be talking about that because I was going into this thinking, completely DOA, absolute garbage, why do they even bother? And now I have some more complicated thoughts.

And in other news, Proton Mail is letting folks send emails from their Gmail addresses, making it maybe easier than ever to de-Gougalify your life. AMD extends AM5 longevity through 2029, and also the, honestly, most important news of this entire week with CompuTech's going on is that after 22 years, you can finally download Paint.net from the URL, Paint.net. I knew you were going to like that. It's great. Someone's rolling me into it.

Hopefully. Are they? The show is brought to today by Vessi, Squarespace, MSI, and Zapier, alongside our rep partner, Dbrand, our Razor, partner, laptop, and our chair partner, Razor. I'm going to pretend I did that on purpose. You're going to pretend you noticed. All right, let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is, of course, whichever one was the headline topic.

Producer, producer Dan, I forget which one we chose. Oh, the phone feature. Google Fun. Oh, yeah, we didn't even mention that at the beginning of the show. I wish I could say I was jet-legged right now. This is probably Google's coolest feature that they have, announced for Android in my opinion in years. Android is fighting phone scams with a new feature

to prove who's calling. They're rolling out fake call detection, which is aimed at scammers who spoof a contact's number and use AI voice cloning to impersonate them. So we've talked about this extensively on the WAN show. Your mom calls, they sound exactly like your mom, but it's actually a scammer asking, you to send emergency money to some Bitcoin wallet or something. But rather than analyzing the audio

to detect a fake voice, what it's actually doing is a cryptographic check between your devices. So when a real contact calls you, their phone will quietly send your phone a real-time confirmation signal over end-to-end encrypted RCS. When a malicious actor spoofs the number, which they can do, Veritasium did a whole, like, video on. this they can't spoof the signal if that signal if that encrypted signal is missing then you'll get a warning that tells you hey this could be a fake call this could be a scammer now the catch is that both people have to use the phone by Google app and have each other saved in their contacts they have to

running Android 12 or newer and they have to have RCS enabled however there's a tiny little note in the footer of this press release or article or blog post or whatever it was that I was reading that says and hey by the way this is based on RCS so we like totally want it to be a cross-platform thing. Could work with other people yeah yeah yeah yeah this is so freaking cool I was going to say I obviously love the idea of the feature but the the locks down like this is literally talking about your parents my mom is an eye phone. Exactly. So it's like, ah, but again, RCS based, this could be multi-platform, hopefully it becomes that, because this is going to be a big problem. Already has been for some people. Yeah. I know I, I don't know if I talked about this on WAN Show, and this wouldn't have exactly worked, but I've had an AI voice caller that had me tricked for a while. Have I told you that story? Really? No. Okay, so I'll go for it. I got a call from, I thought it was just funny at first,

then I picked it up, and while I was on the call, I was Googling it, it's real, but it was like the firefighters curling uh like a fundraising thing holy crap you got like

yeah hyper brother dad could you be could you have been more targeted than firefighters

curling association I have to look it up again but it's like a real thing honestly though Curling Association Canada

like could it have been the you know the the guild of Luke Lefrenier family who play wow and they could have like like that might have been slightly more targeted that's yeah Canadian firefighters curling association and they do actually do fundraising so like it's yeah and they're not really fundraising for themselves or fundraising for like community causes and stuff right and the voice on the phone sounded very real but it asked and it wanted a contribution and I was

like I mean okay I can maybe do something but they wanted payment information over the phone and i was like no no no just tell me like what your website is and i'll like look it up and do it there because i'm not there's no way i'm doing that and then it got really pushy about wanting information over the phone and it started feeling not super real at that point so i i started asking it certain things and got it to kind of loop and realize that it was not real it ran out of context but like the voice genuinely like fully sounded like a real person i mean that's the thing that's the thing right when you're on the phone.

There's already, you know, literally robot voice is a thing we use to describe an imperfect connection. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I don't know that in this context, I don't know this person. So it adds something there as well. Like this, this feature would not have saved me from this particular problem. But the thing is that that happening one time to me, man, maybe realized that this is how. And like I looked it up afterwards and there's a bunch of people talking about these calls they were getting.

And like, this is a thing. It could have been, honestly, as simple as you, like, as them setting up a domain that's like, you know, firefighters, curling association dot. Or whatever. You know, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and if they had just directed you there and it had been believable enough, you might have put payment information in. Maybe. Like.

I do, I do check out websites like that, but I mean, maybe. It's a, I mean, if you were putting in five bucks, I don't know. I could see, man, that's crazy. Because like, I'm, okay, so even like the like checking it out, right? Like, you know, what would what would checking out look like? Yeah, I don't know. Right? I look through source sometimes.

I look up like, I'll look up the domain and see other people think it's legit. I like to click around inside the website and make sure like all the links actually work. That is honestly, it's surprising how often that's not a thing. Except it's getting so much easier now to just put in a prompt to basically say, yeah, just generate this, generate this for me. And if anything, I find that typos are more of a solid indicator that someone is a real human now than, you know, perfect copy on a website. But I feel like a lot of, I feel like a lot of things are kind of cluing into that as well to make things more natural. throwing in like the occasional typo I'm just man that was another thing that kind of tipped it off yeah was that the voice was like almost too perfect I know people are

talking about compression stuff there was compression but like yeah right there was no ums awes weird pauses or anything every line was delivered like perfectly but at the beginning that wouldn't have tipped you off because they would probably start with their script it's a script but once you're going back and forth and you're talking about pain and there's just no uncertainty or like feeling words. Yeah, maybe someone's just hyper dedicated

to the script, but there was lines that were like identical. Right. That was where the looping was what really got me. And then I started like basically laughing at them because I was like, there's no way this is real. There's no way you're actually that good. And then it would just like, and then loop again.

I was like, yeah, I got you. It was weird. It was weird. And it was also. like, I think comparatively to your barbecue situation, I got woken up by this call at like seven of the morning or something. So I was, I was also like, cognitively impaired. At the beginning of the call when it was the most believable, I was also the least awake. But I still had the like, obviously I'm not doing this over the phone thing. Yeah. There's a nice like default fallback,

which kind of saved me. But yeah, like, that's crazy. And it's going to get easier and easier and for these things to be tailored to individuals over time. So this feature coming fairly quickly is good. Like another thing that I might typically do to check a website is I might look for the phone number on it and be like, can I call you back at this number? Yeah. But nothing. I'm just trying to think like what some of my safeguards would be and how they're either are obsolete today or they're going to be obsolete very soon.

Yeah. Yeah, the number matching thing is pretty good. It's like the general rule, like if your bank or something like that ever calls you, just call them back. But don't just call the number that called you back. My bank- Find their number individually. My bank called me a little while ago from a number that was like not the number on the back of my card. And I was like, okay, I need to call you back.

And I did. And it was real. And I was like, can you guys not do that? Yeah, that's insane. Like, we just wasted, because I had to sit through the hold queue in order to get back to them. Yeah. So basically I just like wasted half an hour because they're not calling me from the right number. But then, them calling me from the right number doesn't mean anything anymore.

Yeah, you can spoof it. Yeah. So like. You generally do just have to call them back no matter what. Unless it's only info. No, I only go to the teller window now. I only, I only want, I, that. That's it. That's the only way.

I do know people that do that. Dude, it's funny because that made perfect sense. And then it was completely like crazy. Are you just the least efficient person in the world? What's wrong with you? And now it makes perfect sense again. This is completely unrelated, but we're talking about security stuff. And it made me think of this.

But someone on the show floor walked up and they had one of those like, what was it, ESP 32, those like little. tiny boards. And they programmed it. They had two of them dangling off their bag and they programmed it to spam AirPods or trying to connect your phone notifications to people's iPhones that were walking by. And he was explaining how it works to me. And somebody was walking by with an iPhone and he was like, oh yeah, look. And they weren't, we couldn't even see their screen yet. And as they walk past, they're like dismissing the notification just keeps coming back up. And apparently this has been a known thing for iPhones for like a long time and a bunch of people including this person have reported

it. It's just like still an issue. Yeah, someone's like, yep. It's wonderful playing chat. Oh man. Security's fun. But yeah, I know more than one person at this point who is only banking by going in person and talking to each other, which is, feels like we've regressed a fair amount. We'll go back to writing checks. Horses and buggies. Yeah. And then you're going to get like... Dogs mating with cats.

What's going on? Where people are forging signatures again and stuff. That'd be great. Oh, dude, yeah. I mean, you could make an auto pen like... Oh, yeah. Like that these days. Yeah.

Just... Oh. Fun times. Cool feature. Yeah, rollout of the new fake call detection feature is coming this month, globally, beginning with pixel phones, and then expanding to air.

Android 12 plus devices. It is on by default and can be disabled in the phone by Google app settings, but I got to be honest with you guys, I can't think of any good reason to disable this at this time. You're already using a Google phone. Whatever creepy thing they could do with sending an encrypted RCS to the person you're calling is probably no worse than anything else that they are doing. Google hasn't said whether they have any plans to adopt this according to Wired, but if you're an iPhone user, I would say that's the kind of thing that you might want to send Apple a friendly little poke and go, hey, do you guys want to maybe support this? Because this legitimately seems like an essential feature as we move into the future.

All right, you want to pick something essential from the dock. Oh, boy. Hold on, let me look for a second. He'll find something essential. You can't live without it, folks. Hmm. Hmm. I don't know.

Oh, yes. Perfect. Perfect. After 22 years, you can finally download paint.net from the URL, paint.net. Developer Rick Brewster has finally secured the paint.net domain for his free image editor after the previous owners held it hostage for 22 freaking years. 22 years. For some reason, either refusing to sell or demanding absurd amounts of money for a free application to be downloaded.

The breakthrough came when they made it a fatal, when they made a fatal mistake in December of 2025, they redesigned the site to look, aha, like the official paint.net download page with fake links and ads. Brewster lawyered up, one on copyright infringement, and domain. squatting and the domain is now his. That is so freaking awesome. That's actually amazing. Okay, our discussion topic is, aside from paint.net being based in free, freaking awesome.

If you need a quick edit to an image, it has so many plug-ins, head over to paint.net. It's that easy. That is actually so cool because it's been one of the biggest pains. He wants to do it. He can't resist. I did it earlier even. I did it earlier too. One of the biggest pains about like, suggest.

suggesting it to people ever has just been like... I'm afraid you'll get scammed. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And, okay, but our discussion topic is going to be, what's your other favorite they should really have the domain? Mine's got to be Steam. The fact that Steampowered?

Steampowered.com is where you go to download Steam. Well, you know what it is? It's the same situation from my understanding of it. Is the person who owns Steam.com knows that Valve has enough money to buy. the earth and all the heavens. Yeah. And Valve told them to pound sand way back in the day and is sticking to their guns.

And I got to like, you know, respect that at least to a degree. But also, I do wonder how many people have been confused. How many hours of humanity's collective life have been lost to... If it wasn't for Google, I wonder what this situation would be like. And you know what? I mean, maybe that's the answer. Maybe the answer is that it just plain doesn't matter because I don't know, I don't know if I could name a single person in my life who doesn't just... That can't download Steam? No, who doesn't just Google a thing. Oh, yeah. Rather than... Paint.net was weird because the name of it was a domain. Yeah.

So it was like, it was kind of especially bad. Like if it was Steam.com, if like, Steam was actually called Steam.com. I didn't know this one. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, hold on, hold on. I'll get to it. Yeah, if, if, yeah, again, if Steam was actually called Steam.com and then Steam.com didn't go to Steam,

that would be really confusing. This is crazy. I've heard of Nissan.com in loving memory of Uzi Nissan, a loving father, brother, and friend, passed away from COVID-19. Dude, that's incredible. That's pretty epic. This man,

Uzi Nissan, has the Nissan.com domain, not the car company. Okay, how did I never see this? I've seen this. I'm not, I don't know,

but, you know, I mean, there's too many things to come around everything. I am kind of surprised, like with Steam at some point, with Nissan at some point,

like how do you not just offer a, a very high but reasonable number. Because like Steam as well, they're not even parking it. No, they're not doing anything with it. I mean, I'm guessing, well, I'm guessing they probably aren't because they don't want to open themselves up

to any kind of legal peril by doing something malicious with it. Because Valve, I think, and look, I get it, but what I suspect is that Valve would have no problem spending the money on lawyers to rip it away from them. Right.

But they don't want to enrich the domain squatters. So it's the same thing that we always talk about on Land Show any time that there's like scalping on a new console or a new steam controller or whatever it happens to be, right? It's like, hey, so the only reason this works is because people give the money to the scalpers. Enriching the scalpers, incentivizing them to do this again. That's the only reason any of it works. And at a certain point, I got to just kind of go, look, don't hate the player.

Hate the stupid people who enriched the player. Not stupid. Stupid's a strong word. I don't think they're stupid. I think they are bad parents. They're sending the wrong signals, and they are enabling a behavior that just makes the world sort of worse in general. I feel like I wasn't paying enough attention.

Bad parents? They're bad parents. Who are bad parents? The people who buy from scalpers. Okay. All right. Yeah. I thought you're talking about scammers for a second.

And I was like, I don't think they mean to. I get it. No, yeah. So this is another one that I had seen before, but I'd forgotten about. Whitehouse.com is an election betting site. Because I guess the U.S. government Yeah, it's dot org, right? So, or dot-gov, excuse me.

Dotgov. So this is, oh, I can't share my screen, I guess. But Pankras shared in Floplin chat what steam.com used to look like, and I remember this. I also remember that this domain is not for sale. I just don't understand. Is the former home of steam tunnel operations. Okay.

Nice. Sure. Solid. Anyway, congratulations, paint.net, Rick Brewster, you did it. You finally did it. We're genuinely excited for you and for everyone who ever got confused by the previous situation. Yeah, absolutely awesome. Let's jump into, oh, hey, can we watch the thing, Dan?

Yeah, we can watch the thing. Yeah, we'll talk about the big end up a video in this. or do you want to watch it first? Yeah, I'll do the spiel. What if did an affiliate spot for the LTT store scribe driver pen? And I just thought he did such an amazing, incredible, creative job of it. So he did a spot on TikTok that's called Here's What Would Happen if a pen hit the earth at the speed of light. Now, according to the spot, he really loves the pen.

I he hasn't like told me that personally like not on the internet so I have no way of knowing that if that is actually true but he said a lot of things that I also believe about the pen that it's a really good value like the build quality is great for the price and you know technically according to you know the law and stuff even in an affiliate spot you're not supposed to say anything that you don't actually believe so I was really like like seriously he like glazed it a little Nice. Like, he was very, very... I know a few people that really like... Complementary of the scribe driver pen. Sammy happened to have one on him. Nice. Thanks, Sammy. Here you go.

At the speed of light, no, sorry, no. The speed of light would be very bad. And as you're about to find out, yeah, do you want to roll the clip, Dan? If that was... This one would happen if a pen hit Earth at the speed of light. Sorry, Ben. Sammy flinched.

Scrib driver bolt action pen. Made by fellow Canadian YouTuber Linus Tech Tips. It's stainless steel over engineered by nerds and has a satisfying bolt-action click, grippy diamond-cut nerling, and even takes Parker G2 refills. It's what I used to draw out all my death ideas for Chase. But if this pen somehow hit Earth at 99.9% the speed of light, it would be a nightmare. First off, anything with mass needs more and more energy the closer it gets to light speed. To actually reach light speed, you'd need infinite energy. So let's say an

Civilization gets this pen to 99.9% the speed of light. Well, that's almost 300,000 kilometers per second, fast enough to travel from Earth to the moon in about 1.3 seconds. But before the pen even touches the ground, the sky would flash white. Since the air in front of the pen wouldn't have time to move out of the way, it would get violently compressed and heated into super-hot plasma. Then, boom! The air around the pen would erupt into an endued. enormous explosion before it even reached the surface. All right, we've got it here so that people have to go watch the rest to find out the rest. Good plan.

Got him. Yeah, got him. Anyway, yeah. Just thought that was super cool. We've been exploring over the last, I guess it's been months now, doing more and more sort of creator affiliate program type stuff, creator sponsorships. Actually, oh, I got a great selfie. with a couple of channels that we sponsor.

You might like this, Luke. Like here at the show? Let me see if I can find it. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you've heard of them before. Here, let me hold this up for the people on the camera here. So, oh, hold on. I disabled your auto focus.

You'll have to make that. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so this guy's name is Andy. He's from a channel called Ziptai Tuning and Ziptai Tech, yeah. And then this is Samit. He does like drift car racing over in Japan. And once he had this guy with kind of like a loud laugh. Yeah, he's like kind of like a laugh-reier kind of guy,

laugh-rennier guy kind of in his car once. He took him out, he took him out, Griffraising, you might have heard of him. It was a good time. Yeah, yeah. So, I don't know, it's, it's, it's pretty cool. It's been, it's been, it's been enriching. Oh, okay, I didn't mean it like that.

It's been fulfilling. It's been fulfilling to, no, it's the opposite of that, actually. Because I'll be honest with you, we don't really know what we're doing yet. So a lot of, like, sponsorships and stuff we're doing are not lucrative. Right. But what they are is there, like, I was looking for another word for good that did not mean that, but then I settled on a synonym. Yeah, so it's been very cool moving from the sponsor-e to the sponsorer, and it's something that within reason we do want to continue to do more of. Yeah.

All right, what else we got here? So zero dollars enriching. I think potentially negative dollars enriching. Yeah, in some cases. There have been some that have done like really well. I guess yeah. Well, yeah. Like occasional, occasional ones like...

Yeah, I don't want to like name, you know, which of our affiliates are outperforming our other affiliates. That's not the kind of thing that I would want to get into on the Land Show or anything. But there have been some that have just done shockingly well. And then there's been some that we thought... Yeah, I didn't even mean it that way. I just saw it as like... It's, I mean, it's a money out of... procedure yeah yeah oh yeah theoretically through the affiliate links you can

track money in but affiliate so the affiliate ones don't really have as much potential to to like lose money on that they're just they could be you know not the best use of time potentially because we have you know finite time yeah at work during that employee could have done something else they could be yeah so there's like it's cool though I think it's good it's like we've had a problem for a long time of like getting the cool products that we have

to people that aren't just our audience and you know I think some people have noticed the ads and stuff going on the rest of the internet trying to spread it out from there but part of it's also trying to sponsor other creators and do

stuff like that so we want to continue to do more of that what else we what else we got I forget how we got on to oh you know what let's do it NVIDIA wants to power your next Windows laptop. More than a dozen years after NVIDIA's TeGRA series chips briefly powered a number of Windows RT tablets.

NVIDIA is getting back in the CPU game with their new RTX Spark, SOC. Co-developed with MediaTech, the Spark combines up to 20 cores, up to 6,000. up to 6,144 Blackwell GPU cores, and up to 128 gigs of Unified LPDDR5X memory in an all-new super chip with up to one petaflop of FP4 AI performance for local models. Are we going to call them super chips? I mean, it's cooler branding than APU. It is pretty cool. It sounds cool. If we're going to call that a super chip, I think we have to go across the board, though. Well, no, I absolutely think you're right.

I mean, would you argue that Strix Halo is not a super chip? Well, that's what I mean. Like, if we call this a super chip, I think that might be okay, but we also have to call Strix Halo a super chip. I think I'm down. That's fine with me. Strix Halo is a super, it's a super chip. And it does feel like it's in a different category compared to some other stuff,

including in its price band. Its price band is in a different category. Give us a sec. We'll get to that. NVIDIA is promising slim laptops with all-day battery life, as well as compact desktops that are powered by these new chips, and they should be coming this fall from the usual suspects. I mean partners, excuse me.

Recent attempts of Windows on Arm have been a lot more promising than early attempts in the RT days. Microsoft's X-86 to Arm translation layer, code named Prism, has continued to get better and faster, and many major apps have started. shipping arm native versions. In a call earlier this week, Microsoft EVP, Pavand Daddalluri, told our team that there is active work being done with the developers of Easy Anti-Chete, Battle Eye, and DeNovo, along with Wright games and Crafton to bring arm support to League of Legends, Valerent, and

PubG. Pricing has not been revealed. Okay, Mr. Luke, I think both of us probably went in to call. Computex thinking DLA. No, you weren't quite as, you weren't quite as negative as me about it? I was a little bit surprised. Yes. The word on the street is this was supposed to launch at CES 2025 or announce at CES

2025, then Computex 2025, then maybe CES 26, and now here it is, finally 18 months. later. I think part of it, part of the reason why I had potentially higher hopes is just because of what actually Qualcomm has been doing. I think a lot of the road was paved by other people here. Microsoft working on their translation layers, Qualcomm working on a huge range of different things. This feels like what we've been talking about with AI for a while now, where I think some of the companies that do the best are going to be companies that aren't just blowing billions of dollars right now and just kind of wait for other people to figure it out, especially because so many models are going open source anyways, and then just jumping in later, this feels like that situation

where like they appled kind of. They waited for Qualcomm and Microsoft and I'm sure a lot of other partners to do a lot of the initial work and then just went, and there's a cool chip. And they also invidient waiting for there to be a lucrative enough business case to do a ton of the work in this case it was for the data center right like this is using of this is obviously a cut down version but it's using a very similar architecture to their grace blackwell super chips that are for you know AI those ones have way more cores

and it's like 72 CPU cores and then the the GPU that's bolted to it is yeah is obviously not on the same scale whatsoever and clock speeds are way higher on the like hey I got hands on with a grace blackwell yesterday oh it's it's thick the cooler is thick like damn girl uh 1400 watts per per super chip um you know with a little bit of coaxing a little bit of a little bit of assistance um Anyway, I'm too tired for this. So my reasons for coming in thinking DOA were actually less to do with that, that I thought, you know, Windows on Arm was a total dead end.

And it was more to do with just how late this thing was. I was worried that power consumption wouldn't make any sense for a laptop for a device that, you know, Carmack was complaining a year ago. year ago, like, throttled in a mini desktop and, like, kind of sucked. That, you know, Wendell has talked about how the performance for local AI is not that amazing. I was concerned that, you know, Nvidia would run into challenges when it comes to Windows on arm. Yeah. It hasn't been perfect.

And, I mean, the answer for me, whether you want to talk. about Windows on Arm or whether you want to talk about Linux or Mac or any other platform is always like, you know, would you use that? And I go, yes, asterisk, but boy, that asterisk. Boy, do I ever love the convenience, though, of being able to just run my games on Windows when I want to and assume that whatever game I want to run is going to run. And I said there's, you know, there's been on that work from Microsoft and Qualcomm and other players as well, but I still don't think it's like at parody.

That's an area where Nvidia seems to be, according to their version of the story, doing the work. Because who in the gaming space has more developer relationships than Nvidia? Like, actually, though. Yeah, I don't think anybody. They work with almost quite literally everybody. Yeah. And basically, you know, because I was like, we got through the presentation, we got through the presentation, they're talking about local agentic AI, and they're talking about, you know, the efficiency of arm cores and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. you know finally they bring up the slide and they're like and of course it games and I'm like okay

okay all right okay but like does it and they're like you know wait here's all because I there's even more than what we had written in our notes here in terms of who they're working with on the DRM side and on the anti-cheat side and they're like yeah this is a huge part of why this is taken so I wouldn't be surprised and I'm sure they do have stronger relationships with some of these companies and more long-lasting ones But Qualcomm was already doing a lot of that to be clear I'm not trying to call on the show it's just like I don't think anyone would think you are yeah okay It's like these things were already being worked on Is that some people tried to name some other stuff valve but you know

Valve might valve's making some hardware I guess but I don't think it's really equivalent to this situation. We're talking about like chip makers. Yeah, it's interesting. At least it's interesting. I don't know how the market feels about it because, you know, it's kind of nuts how in the last five days they're down 5%. In the last one day, they're down 6.2%. But apparently if you go back to the last month, they're still doing great.

Yeah, life is strange. I mean, look, the stock is just, stocks are just gambling now. Six months, they're up 12.5%. Like, nothing matters. If you want to see a fun one, check arm. So I attended the announcement. I was sponsored attending the announcement of their, of their like AGI series CPUs. And that was, I think it was more than a month ago.

Go to the six month view. Okay. And I just, I couldn't make any sense of it. because immediately afterward, like immediate immediate, it went down. And I was like, well, I don't really get that because what I just saw on that stage actually like sounded pretty good to me. Not good like I want one. I need an arm AGI series CPU in my gaming desktop or whatever.

That wasn't the point. But good like, oh yeah, AI people would probably love the crap out. of that and they're gonna like sell a but load of these kind of the good you know and it like dipped and then it went like pshaw-junk yeah um and i just don't really so what we're seeing is uh on a six-month view the stock is up 143 percent uh on a one-month view still super healthy 64 percent but when you start getting to you know your your five days it's it's down 12 percent yeah and so that's that's you know to do with the market the the the polly market you might call it like i i i don't know how to i don't know how to deal with this like

everything is basically just vibes now yeah and it's it's hard to maybe always was and to be clear this isn't a stock trading show we know this is not nothing not financial advice But with it being such a gambling market, it is the unpredictable nature of it makes it actually really important to a lot of people because people's retirement funds are investing in it, all that kind of stuff. There's all this stuff coming with SpaceX and how it might be like defaulted into some of the other topic. They fixed that.

Did they? The S&P 500 basically was like, no. You have to wait a year. Okay. was legitimately pretty scary. Yeah. When it looked like they were just going to go straight into the S&P 500 index fund, that was like, that was crazy.

That sounded rough. But, but yeah, we're looking at, again, this is the wrong place to really learn about this stuff. But we're looking at a bit of a blood bath, kind of since CompuTech, which is interesting. I don't know if it's actually related CompuTech, probably not, I feel like. Very hard to say. You know, I had a really interesting conversation with, um, with Dr. Cutris the other night. We finally caught up man. I haven't talked to that guy in forever. Actually, he ran into like a fair number of like the old gang. I ran into Jay at

at the Asus ROG booth. Oh yeah. I ran into Bitwit, Kyle. Yeah, I was on his live stream. Yeah, he's doing live streams now. Dude. That's like his thing. I mean, it's cool. The guy, I've told him, I've told him before to his face. I think he has the best comedic timing in all of tech YouTube. Fantastic. I think he is like the funniest person in in tech on YouTube and live makes a ton of sense to me for him. I actually didn't know he was doing it because I just I don't consume that much YouTube content but just the vibes of his stream while we were kind of chatting and hanging out on it. I thought it was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah, ran into him obviously ran into Alex and Andy and yeah, it was great. Anyway, so

Yeah, I ran into Dr. Cutris. And I was kind of trying to wrap my brain around this Computex. Because on the one hand, there wasn't much. No. There was Nvidia's, you know, RTX Spark. Invidia's new Vera Rubin, like, Data Center tier announcement. there was Wildcat Lake. But then Wildcat Lake was actually launched like a couple months ago.

And it's just that we're seeing Western available OEM design wins now. So we're seeing it in laptops. But the actual chip was a known quantity coming into this. And then what? Arc G3. Noctua has their thermosiphon working. What are we even talking about here? I thought the wounding thing was cool.

Did you see that? Oh, the like tilty key cap thing? No, the replaceable dials. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can replace individual key switches with dials instead of buttons. I think it's genuinely pretty cool. If you're doing, I imagine CAD work, video editing, or there aren't a ton of them, but games like Star Citizen. Wooten's a shockingly innovative company for being focused on keyboards.

Which in a lot of ways have not been. Yeah. Yeah, they are. Yeah. I mean, it's part of their, like, tagliney thing. They're there to disrupt or whatever. Yeah. So, anyway, chatting with Dr. Cuttrus about it.

I was like, I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this because there's not much here. But on the flip side, did it not feel like the busiest compute tax, like, in years? Like, it was, dude, it was buzzin. You mean, like, literally people on the floor? Yeah, on the show floor. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of money in it right now. I heard there was a couple brands that I was really surprised were not on the floor, and I've heard a very rumory rumor, as in like it's very possibly not real, but I have no idea, that there had to be a minimum percentage of like AI stuff. Because like we, Sammy and I ran into a booth where they were advertising a monitor.

And they're saying that it was multimodal powered AI enabled monitor. and I was asking like, okay, well, how much, like, compute is in this all in one? And they're like, no, it's a monitor. And I was like, yeah, I know, but you're running AI on it. So, like, how are you doing that? And they pointed to, like, a mini PC that was behind the monitor. I was like, oh, well, okay, does that come with it then? And they're like, no.

So their point was that you could plug a computer into the monitor that ran AI stuff. Wow. And that really, I think, What happened there was they didn't want to get filtered out because they didn't have AI stuff to show on the floor. Right. So they just slapped an AI sticker on their monitor and just went with it. So I don't know. I think it's just that there is a lot of dollars, a lot more dollars than normal in this industry. And not just, not just dollars, but like real dollars. So Ian was telling me, like, normally this is a very industry of.

event. Yep. And he was like, but this year it feels like I can't go anywhere without seeing like a like a Goldman, you know, no. So see, you were like, you were, you hit the nail on the hammer kind of. You were, you were like, almost there in terms of in, in terms of his theory anyway. Yeah. But he's like, yeah, basically as far as, you know, he's like, as far as I can tell, there wasn't kind of a, an Asia tech. conference for Western money. Yeah, because you see that at CES. It's very, very common at CES to see the like the investor badges. The money people. Yeah. And you can kind of tell when they're walking around. And so because Computex is where Nvidia does its thing. Yep. Right. Apparently, according to Ian, he feels like Computex is being kind of co-opted by the money people to become like the Asia Tech Conference that everyone kind of goes to. And that made a ton of sense to me. I mean, it always makes sense to me just about when Ian talks because he is a super smart guy,

as he always reminds me, he is a doctor, in fact, with a doctorate. He doesn't always remind me of that. I'm actually making him sound worse than he is. It was just the first time we met, he corrected me on his title, and I have never let him live it down. I opened with that, of course. I walk up, he's like waiting for me in a tiny little, like, noodle hole in the wall, and I'm like, Dr. Cutris.

Yeah, yeah. He goes, he goes, aw, if you. Like, I love that guy. Anyway, when he talks, it pretty much almost always makes a ton of sense. He's a super smart guy, but I was like, oh, yeah. So this is something that came up for me in unrelated reading. I forget where I was reading it, and I can't find the article right now, but apparently

I think it might have been my brother-in-law talking about it, nine out of every $10 from P.E. and V.C. right now is apparently going into AI. I mean, yeah, sure. I do still think this is interesting. I wish I could share my screen. But I looked up, I guess it's on a website

called Trading View. I haven't been here before. But I've seen screenshots that I think are from this website of like a stock heat map. It's just the S&P 500 stock heat map. Some people in chat were saying that these stocks are down because people are just rebalancing. But when I'm seeing over 6% from Nvidia, over 13% from Micron, over 6% from Dell, over 11% from Intel, over 6% from Cisco, almost 11% from A&B, and it just keeps going and going and going and going. I'm not personally seeing the other places that this is apparently going to. Gold's down.

Yeah, gold's apparently down a bunch. Yeah, gold's down 3% today. So, like, I'm not seeing the other stocks that this is flowing. Well, it's not always stocks, right? Like, there's government bonds. Sure. There's land. Although land is not as liquid.

It doesn't really, well, literally it's not liquid. But what I mean is that it doesn't, you don't, like, move 6.2% of Nvidia. This is what I mean. Is half a trillion dollars or something like that. No, no, sorry, a quarter trillion dollars. What does it work out to it? It's a five trillion dollar market cap. So 10% is 500 billion. So 250 billion dollars there. So yeah. It's kind of a big deal. So like two like we should see a lot of green in other segments. Nobody bought 250 billion dollars of farmland, you know, today. Um, yeah, crypto. So it, Bitcoin's way down.

Like in like catastrophic crashing territory. Yeah. Have you been watching this? No. Yeah. I just friendly reminder, the every minute reminder when we're talking about anything to do with finances. This is not a financial show. None of this is financial advice.

There are not the people you should listen to. Neither of us have any idea of what we're doing or what we're talking about. The extent of it right now is that there's a lot of red and I don't know where the green is. Well, I think it was the friends we made along the world. Yeah, it might be. It was not real money. Yeah. Like, that's what the boomers are finding out in the Vancouver housing market.

Mm. Is that when the value of your house and your hundred neighbors is dictated by the one house that sold at that amount. Yeah. That money is not real. and so you know it can go up it can go down

I mean listen I think I'm going to send this over to Dan he can throw this up on screen but I think it's really important to remember what Warren Buffett said

about all this okay so I'm just going to send this over I mean look I don't do financial advice don't believe me believe Mr. Buffett okay so it's a good point yeah no it's it's a very it's a very good point okay Dan uh did you get that yep okay go ahead throw that up please so whenever you whenever you see anything any news right the stock goes up the stock goes down crypto's doing good

crypto's doing bad uh you know gold you know bonds everything just just remember remember what Warren Buffett definitely actually said. Yep. That's good advice. Yeah, and it's interesting, too, like, some of the only stocks that I'm seeing going up are credit cards. I'm just scrolling through here trying to see, like, what just happened? And it's not by a lot.

It's not by a lot. But they are. Scrappy DP says, he said, wasted away in Margaritaville. You're thinking of his lesser-known cousin. Mr. Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, yeah. I know I know you knew that. I know you knew that scrappy oh dude. I just and and the really scary part is I'm not really like a math guy. So this was not super intuitive to me but five percent down is a lot more than five percent up. Yeah. And so like you could like, you could like,

If you're worth $100, you have to go up 5%, a lot of times to reach like, you know, $1,000 of value. But then you only have to go down 5%, like fewer times to wipe out more of it because it, like, moves faster on the way down because math. Because you started higher. Yeah, it's just, it's, yeah, because you started higher. So it's, so it's a greater proportion. So that like, that, that, that growth.

goes down at the same negative growth rate. I just, I never really thought about it because I don't do a ton of stock investing and I, I don't do math for fun. But when I kind of clued into that, however long ago it was, I was like, oh, right. So that's why when a stock goes down 1%, people, you know, freak out and panic, sell everything. It's over, you know. This is just like scale of things into getting ridiculous. Like, Nvidia being down 6.2 is so just insane.

It's just such a colossal amount of money. It's like that stat. I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it right now, but I think we've talked about a Wenshow before. When the GDP goes down a certain percentage, you see, like, deaths increase. Yeah. Like, it's, it's, it's, yeah. This stuff gets pretty heavy, pretty fast.

Hold on. Someone wanted an update on GameStop. basically for tax reasons Yvonne sold it at some point if I recall correctly if you guys hold it for a super long time but I also think that was a bit ago yeah yeah so right now I think Yvonne has us a little bit in some index fund but like not much and I have my framework personal investment and then I have my Eshtek so hexOS that NAS software personal investment But neither of those are public.

A little bit of precious metal. I think. And no crypto. I have no crypto right now. This is not financial advice. This is not a financial show. But you guys might as well, you know, know where my vested interests lie. And I have, I mean, realistically, the bulk of my net worth is in Vancouver real estate,

which you guys already know from just knowing that we own our office building. and like, you know, I made the video where I talked about Smashchamps, the badminton club slash land center. So for what it's worth, if this helps at all, I've gotten hit harder over the last year than the poor Nvidia investors who lost 6.2% today. But it's also a different thing, though, because these are buildings that we're operating companies out of. So it's a very different sort of calculus. I'm skipping through. I've gone through like the Chinese index. The American Index, the American Index, NASDAQ, the Chinese Index, the Canadian Index,

and so far the Canadian Index is doing the least bad, which is cool. However, everything is doing bad. Yvonne, last night, you know, pillow talk was like, oh, my trade just went through. So what that tells me is that the Canadian dollar fell against the USD because what she does is she sets up like staged trades so that rather than you know hitting it all at once it'll kind of trade on the way up. And she's usually trying to catch a high on the on the US dollar whenever she's like setting staged trades. Because we mostly make USB. Yeah, which I think might not have been fully apparent. But our expenses are mostly Canadian dollars.

So we are trying to move it into the CAD side of it. Yeah, so we generally try to win on the USDA being overvalued in a given time and then sort of ease off on our purchases of Canadian dollars when the Canadian dollar is stronger, although that has changed because we did. How does LMG spend money? I guess it's like six months ago now. and our biggest expense other than payroll is now buying product and that is almost exclusively in USDA. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so a lot more of our expenses are in US dollars now. Yeah, I never

really considered that. Sorry, I just thought this was funny. I'm scrolling through and there's like the NASDAQ 100 index, all US companies, Dow Jones Utility average index, blah blah blah, yeah, Canadian composite index, whatever you keep scrolling. What'd you find? What'd you find? Is it the Nancy Pelosi index? No, you get down to India and it's the nifty 50. And I just love that. And the nifty next 50. Yeah. That's pretty good.

That's fantastic. Oh, they're doing pretty good. I'm sure there's like a reason why it's called nifty, but I just, I like it. No one in chat seems to have figured out where the money all went. That's going. Yeah, a few different people said that it was just like rebalancing, but I don't, I cannot find where. I've been, obviously, I'm not, you know, super informed on this. stuff, but I can't find it anywhere.

Definitely not Russia. Just went to the Russian Index. That's not where it's going. I've seen some rumblings that Putin might hopefully finally be getting tired of his stupid war. I have seen rumblings of that too, and there's

an open letter from Zelensky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw that too. It would be real cool if that stopped. Yeah, I'd be super stoked on that. Glory to your crane. Okay, what else we got?

AMD is extending AM5 through 2029. AMD announced at Computex this year that the AM5 socket is going through 20209, two years beyond the original 2027 promise. That is at least seven years of support, which will likely cover up to Zen 6 or Zen 6. 7, meaning that anyone who bought an AM5 motherboard back in 2022 can keep upgrading CPUs without replacing their board. Hopefully, you know, sometimes, not every board

from the very beginning of AM4 did ultimately support the chips at the end of AM4. But, you know, if all goes well, then you could be one of the lucky people who has a board that makes it all the way through. Yeah, AM4 got the same treatment launching in 2016 with AMD still releasing chips for it a decade later. Two new CPUs are being released, actually, to back up these announcements. The Risen 77700X3D for AM5 is launching July 16th at 329, 8 core, 16th and threads,

Zen 4, 96 megabytes of 3DV cache. What, it's exciting, it's good. 4.5 gigahertz boost clock. essentially it's a downclock 7800 x3d at $120 less AMD can see that gamers are feeling the pinch talking to you know manufacturers in the PC space they're also feeling the pinch

we talk about that a little bit more later but you know clearly they're trying to to juice things a little bit and then on the AM4 side the Risen 750800 X3D 10th anniversary edition is returning June 25th at 349. It's the same 8-core Zen 3-3 chip with 100 megs of cash, 4.5 gigahertz boost. It was once the best gaming CPU on the planet. Now it's still a great gaming CPU and is compatible with DDR4, which could help save you some money on your next system.

And this is really interesting. Does 349 make sense? It makes sense that people will definitely buy it. I do think that I okay so my initial thought was that AMD is kind of taking advantage of the situation a little bit Yeah, because AM4 boards are cheap and DDR4 is cheap so they could just extract margin on the CPU I didn't realize how much work they had to do to bring this thing out Mm-hmm so the original 3d V-cash stacking process that they used the reason these chips went away was because that process was no longer available at TSMC So they had to significantly re-engineer the chip to manufacture it with modern stacking processes.

Okay. So they actually, yeah, they, I forget who's podcaster, who they were being interviewed by, but they pretty much came out and they were like, yeah, this was like actually a significant amount of work. This wasn't just like I grab it from the archives, dust it off and just re-release it project. Yeah, because Zen 3 for $350. Zen 3 with 3DV cash. Yeah, that part is nice, I guess. So, you know, let's look at it from like a platform standpoint. I can, and apparently motherboard manufacturers are ramping up AM4 board production too.

So I can get an AM4 board. I'm going to spend $100. We have a video coming very soon where we're going to run the newest AM4 CPU, other than this one, this one wasn't out yet, on the oldest AM4 board. And then we're going to compare that against the newest AM4 board and see, like, what are you actually giving up? Like, you can, spoiler alert, not much. So you can get like any AM4 board pretty much as long as it's compatible with the CPU.

Throw it in there. DDR4, last I checked, is about half the price of DDR5. Would I like to see AMD go more aggressive with this thing? Absolutely. But I still think it's going to be legitimately a very, very good. And I'm not even saying that it's necessary, like, I don't know, maybe their R&D cost on this was insane and they have to recoup it somehow or whatever. I'm not necessarily saying it's like a scam or anything. It's just, damn.

It would have been nice if it was cheaper. I would have loved to see it at like 239. Yeah. 229 is, like 229 is where it would have been like, that's hot. Every other chip is dead to me. Just buy it. 229 would have been pretty sick, but that's a massive reduction on the price that it actually is. Use five.

Yep. Yeah, I don't want these dollars. Yeah, if you're comparing to what these things were going for on the secondhand market, it was like well over 500. No, that's what I was finding, yeah, which is surprising. There's some people in chat saying that they got it like, you know, over a year ago for like 200, 250. Yeah. But before it converted it to new Taiwanese dollars because of where we are, it is. we are. It was saying, I think it was 570, sorry, 470, and that's a used one. So, maybe it'll help.

Yeah. God, the market is crazy right now. I legitimately do think that this is going to help. A resurgence in availability of AM4 chips, AM4 boards. DDR4 is still out there. DDR4, even brand new, is relatively affordable. Anything that takes some of the squeeze off, I support at this point. So just with quick skimming, it sounds like their price is $100 cheaper than the used price, which that blows my mind. I know. I know. Thanks, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like it'll be really helpful. I just, geez. No wonder people are building computers. Should we talk about that? Because I also talked to manufacturers that were like, yikes. Yeah, so I'm not going to name any names.

I'm not trying to call out anyone's specific business. But I talked to one manufacturer that said that their sales, and they make like an accessory product. This is 100%. Yeah. Like basically something that isn't a CPU or GPU, but is something that you can't really build a computer without. Okay.

And they said that they were down about. 30% which is you know coming back to what we were talking about earlier right where 30% down is a lot more than the like you know 30% growth that we had year over year when we were first starting out

you know once they once you reach a certain scale you've got employees you've got facilities you've got you know marketing campaigns you've got all these things that you're doing as a company that you've scaled up according to the scale that you've reached. And when suddenly, 30% of your revenue is gone,

you're sitting there looking at it going, like they were talking about how hard it is to forecast production right now. Yeah. Lead times, they were saying, on a good day, they're going to have to know what they need in their warehouse

six months ahead of time. And right now, that's like... Probably it's supposed to do that. Impossible. Yeah, talking to, like you said, kind of accessories things. Yeah, if it's not compute, pretty much, everybody's kind of freaking out.

I know I was talking to one brand. Dan, put up the thing. Who even, did I say, I don't know? I was talking to one brand who even sells things that are a little bit more in that field, but they're more, they have to buy an expensive component and then use it in the product that they're selling

and they're saying that even they are down. because their costs are so freaking high that even though they're selling it for so much right now, it just doesn't even really matter. I meant the Warren Buffett thing. I didn't mean that doesn't know thing. That's why I got to say. The moment's past. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was pretty wild. Case, fans, all that type of stuff. If nobody's building computers, if nobody's building personal computers, PCs, then those things aren't selling. Like, it just, it is what it is. I think McGarnacle actually has a way more human way of sort of illustrating what I've been trying to say about that. When you're a company of three people, 30% hiring is one person. When you're a company of 10 people, to grow 30%, you would hire three people.

When you've achieved scale and you are a company of 100 people, a 30% reduction would be 30 people. Like that's what we're talking about here. Which even like even if you think about the impact, not even not even on that company or on those individuals, but you think about the impact on the job market. If you have 30 people in one field suddenly on the market in one geographical area, the industry might literally not even be able to like bear that. Yeah, it might not be able to absorb it elsewhere. If it's a one person change. Yeah. It's much more likely that you know there's a company that could add a person at the right person.

person came along and then they just bring that person on. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a scary time right now. And honestly, I had very similar conversations with at least one creator as well, where it's just like the interest right now in, you know, building computers is pretty. Oh, dude, it's bad. It's pretty tough. Yeah, I had, there was a dinner I had with a few and everyone was talking about it.

It's pretty rough right now. Well, I said one because I have named many creators that I've talked to at the show. Oh, yeah. And so I just, you know, didn't want to. Yeah. It's everyone. Yeah, yeah. I'm not as well.

All right, we're just going to. I don't know. We're just going to be transparent about it. Potato in full plain chat said 30%, and this is, I think, a good way of illustrating it, because I don't think we've used the actual numbers. 30% up on 1,000 is 300 bucks. But after you do that change, now, 30% down on that new number.

So 30% down on 1,300 is now 390. Yeah. So it's because you already went up is where it starts to get here. So like, and it's like, so the way that someone explained it to me.

Oh, thank you. Is that if every day, if every other day you like go up 10% and then every other day you're down 10%, eventually you have no money. Yeah. That's, yeah. Which is like, what? Yeah. Yeah.

If it was all relative to the starting number, then you'd be fine. Then you're fine. But it's not. But it's not. Hey, speaking of companies that are scaling like crazy and doing great, let's talk about Nvidia unveiling their Vera Rubin platform meant to power the future of AI. According to Nvidia, it will offer 3.3 times the performance of comparable Blackwell Ultra hardware and deliver a 4x reduction in the number of GPUs needed to train MOE models.

We don't have detailed specs for everything, but we do have some speeds and feeds that we can highlight. The VARA CPU goes from 72 cores on Grace to 88 Nvidia custom Olympus cores this time. These have full ARMVV-9.2 compatibility with ultra-fast NVLink C-to-C connectivity, and this is one of the reasons, actually, that I forgot to talk to. about earlier, that I'm a little more bullish on Nvidia's laptops. Because a lot of folks were like, uh, gray CPU cores, they're, they're lame. It's a media tech, you know, CPU that just uses bonestock arm cores. But clearly, Nvidia is not making an investment on the time scale of like, you know, a couple of months or even a couple of years. They're going to have a,

roadmap if you don't get into silicon going well let's try one and see how it goes yeah you get into silicon with uh how many generations of zen did jim keller say that he had like pretty much left amd with when he when he departed it was like another three or something i thought it was three or four yeah it was like a lot yeah like you and then you know again back to that arm announcement they got up on stage and they were like this is the worst arm cp u we will ever make the roadmap is great. You know, obviously, buy these ones. But like, this is, every one that we make in the future is better.

We talked about that with Pat and Intel all the time. And then he's been gone for a bit. And there's, you know, I think in our circles, most people get it. But there's a lot of people being like, wow, the new CEO really turned stuff around. And it's like, okay, we're also seeing some of the stuff that Pat was actually working on coming out. coming out now. He started a lot of balls rolling. So anyway, this is one of the reasons that I'm more bullish on their laptop chips,

because these first ones, RTS Spark Gen 1, is the worst laptop chip that Invidia will ever release. And full custom Olympus cores. Okay, sounds pretty cool to me. I don't know, I don't really know much about it yet. Ruben GPU, moving to HBM4 memory, third-generation transformer engine, 50-minute, yeah, 2.5x, the NVFP4 petap-lops of compute. Okay, so this is like a way, way more powerful chip.

The new rack is using NVLink 6. Each rack will have 260 terabytes per second of bandwidth. And then this. This is something that I actually do care about, 10 times higher inference per watt at one tenth the cost per token. And whether you like AI or hate AI, less watt good. Less watt, definitely good. And if you do like AI and you've noticed that all of a sudden it's amazing how it just

kind of happened overnight, the token cost crisis. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. content the cost per token probably sounds pretty good to you right about now. What else do we know about it? Have we talked about that in a way to show? For a little bit of context, there's a bunch of different places that are turning into usage models instead of general subscription models including GitHub.

And it's really starting to show up on people's balance sheet. Developers are running out of what they would, like their usage in a few days, I'm hearing from some people is effectively capping out. what they I heard the Q1 budget was covered or the full year's budget was spent in Q1 yeah it's kind of the number that a lot of people are thrown out so the

scaling is getting a little bit ridiculous yeah but it's the you know it's the whole drugs model give them a bit for free and then and then pull the rug out yeah I just I that was kind of that was this reinforces actually what I was saying in that video I did recently where I was like the worst maybe over whatever I said, where storage is obviously still mooning and like there's

still a lot of problems. And if you talk to, if you talk to manufacturers who build that scale, RAM is still really, really bad, even though retail has eased off a little bit. But this is kind of exactly what I was talking about, where it's like, I couldn't really prove it. But my crystal ball tea leaf vessel said, hey, the bean counters seem to be waking up. And that's going to manifest in a bunch of different ways. And one of the ways that that typically manifests is that you start actually charging for the service. Yeah, I think it's interesting timing because the like gap between a lot of these models turning into usage base. and the prevalence of local AI systems,

including PewDie Pies project and a variety of other projects as well, making it a lot easier for users to get into local hosting and hearing about a lot of companies switching to local hosting and stuff is like, I honestly, I think they chose a terrible pie. I think they actually should have done this like six months ago.

Because I think it's dramatically, not a little bit, dramatically easier to run local now than it was roughly six months ago. So now if you're looking at your bills on these usage models, you're like, oh my God, this is going to hemorrhge us. A very legitimate solution is to switch to local models. The last metered bill they might ever send you might be for the guide that you ask your cloud AI for to learn how to run local AI and local agents. That's pretty funny. Yeah, and it's like, you know, it's, you can get stronger models by going API routes and using these, these cloud systems.

But I am not convinced that the vast majority of people need like frontier level ability models. I don't. I just, dude, if like my alarm would set at the right time, honestly. Yeah. Like that would be enough for me. I don't actually need much that's done. that complicated. Can we just take a moment, though? Can we just take a moment, though, to congratulate each other on being right about the cloud at every turn? The latency was always going to suck.

Not owning your own data was always going to suck. Paying for things forever instead of paying for them once was always going to suck. Yep. And you know what's funny. I feel, sorry, I'm totally going off topic. There was significant backlash on our video on RTX Spark, where I said... I think a lot of people didn't watch it. Oh, well, yeah. But one of the things that I said in it was that this is a bit of a... You know, this could be the thing that makes me excited.

That makes me like, no, like really, like want to get into it. and and I saw a lot of sentiment around like you know big AI got to Linus you know uh blah blah blah you'll loan nothing you'll be happy I'm like bro that's exactly the opposite yeah of what it is local AI like whether you like being able to run a large model on something like a strax halo on something like a like a like a Mac right on something like one of one of these laptops is huge and one of the things that's been kind of unexciting about it to me up until now has been that it's just like it's it's inconvenient it's that's what the cloud is is the cloud is convenient it's always there yeah but being able to have you know my personal jarvis

running on you know my on my desktop and running on my laptop or you know or running on my my server at home and then I access it through my own private cloud or you know whatever I ultimately you talk to it on discord yeah whatever I ultimately like architect for myself what's exciting to me about it now is that I'm not telling my innermost secrets to Sam Altman I don't want to and it's been it's been as like as much as the the chat gpT wands show where we've like tried it live as much as that was one of the most exciting moments that I can remember in in tech right my temptation to actually use it has been super low because I'm not I don't enjoy that and like we've seen this movie before the pay-per-use model was always coming and I didn't want to get hooked on it yeah and there

there are there are applications and people and companies and whatnot where it will it will make sense to keep doing with those. And as apparently Theo is pointing out, the efficiency is increasing with those. And I mean, we're literally talking, the core of this topic is talking about how Vera Rubin is going to be significantly more efficient, which should theoretically bring costs down.

But all of that, to me, as someone who enjoys the hardware side of things, doesn't even really matter. And that cost. If I can run really powerful models at home, that's cool. I want to do that. And besides, you know,

adding to the, Luke's point, everything that is in the data center today will be in your computer at some point. And theoretically, Frontier models will keep progressing. But like a lot of the, there are really, it might also turn into a mixed model situation where like, if you look at again, Odysseus PDPri's project, you can decide to run local models or you can plug in an API. And you might run into a situation where you have some pay-by-usage plan, but you just don't use it for everything. And if you need something that's much more complicated

that you could really use the power of a frontier model for, or the speed potentially, if you need it out really quick, you could switch to that API, do the work, and then switch back for your lower-level tasks. But the trickle-down... I think there's a lot of viability there as well. The trickle-down will come.

I mean, if you're the kind of person who has the discipline to buy a place Station 4 the day the PlayStation 5 launches. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't mind playing yesterday's game today. And that might not be viable for you, and that's okay. And that's okay, too.

But if you are, which I think I am. I think I'm happy playing yesterday's model today. If I can do it on my local hardware, then I find this really exciting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's really exciting. I think I would end up doing mixed. there's things that I could use even just on like an experiment standpoint

being able to every once in a while slam a question at like the best possible model out there is really interesting but if I can for a lot of the like what do you think the sentiment analysis of this message is I don't I've been able to do that since JPT3 just fine like it's okay

okay so but what will it cost according to an estimate from Morgan Stanley Research, as reported by PC Gamer, one NVL 72 rack. So that's one of the full racks of Vera Rubin. Will cost hyperscalers an estimated $7,800,000. Very nice. With about 2 million of that going to memory. That is crazy. That puts each Rubin GPU at about $55,000. So there's a kind of comparison table of the bill of materials for Gb 300, which was already an enormous price increase over the previous gen. And GPUs are going from like two and a half mill to 3.9 mil. Memory is going from around 350, 400,000 to 2 million.

in. And then there's CPUs are steady. Networking, other networking chips are going up. Dude, networking's getting crazy. The GB3001U that I was checking out. Had watercooled networking in it because, of course, it did. Sure. I was at a booth for a brand that highly specializes in cooling in particular, and they were talking about their network and memory cooling, which I thought was kind of interesting. I've heard people really talk about memory cooling in a in a while but yeah buddy they had like cold plates and went directly to your

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they work with Zapier and AI today. All right. Oh, I'm getting the look. Float plane announcement. That makes sense. Sammy, do your announcement. What? Yeah, Sammy, why don't you do the announcement? You always make us do the announcement. What if we're lazy? Yeah, it's a team sport. Yeah, do it. I know, I know. The audio. quality to be terrible if he yells it from there that's not that's not worth it um and i'm disappointed he's not he's not sleeping this time i kind of i hadn't actually looked back at him yet anyway copy text 2026 has wrapped and luke and i were there thanks sammy good talking points um but what did we do well i had my entire tuesday recorded starting with morning soup

dumplings so oh I guess Dan do you want to throw a little bit of up a bit of it up and skim around in it I can't do that I went to do it and realize that I can't screen share or can I does this support screen share it does yes technically does yeah yeah man is okay I don't know if we've checked check your screen first for it okay we're gonna we're gonna do it we're gonna try it let me see if it works it's gonna be crazy no we're gonna do it might come up as it's right we're gonna do it live okay okay here it goes ready Yeah. Boom.

Oh, it's a separate thing. It's a separate thing. Give me one sec. Amazing. I can work with this. He can work with this, folks. This is actually awesome because we can have, it's just an entire other person now. Oh, really? Yeah, one sec, one sec. And then if I switch away from that tab, can you still see it? Yes. Okay. And I can turn it on off, but I need one second to create.

This software is magic. Isn't it awesome? He can adjust the focus of my webcam. I can have a non-focused tab as a source. He can put it into the foreground or remove it or whatever. This is insane. What's it called again? It's called video ninja.

Video ninja. Video. Video. Not ninja. Never use it. It's dangerous. Anything this powerful must be dangerous, Luke. Seriously, though.

Video Ninja. Super cool. I love it. Okay, so I can throw that up now. Boop. All right, cool. So I had my entire Tuesday recorded, starting my day with soup dumplings that were delivered by my wife. I hung out with Alex and Andy at the Dell booth and ended the day with Badminton.

So you guys can accompany me for an entire day of Computex and kind of see what the whole thing looks like as we go through and, you know, do booth coverage and see new. friends and old friends and non-friends and like this guy I don't know oh where do you go he's gone oh this was fun this is in the Ventiva booth yeah there's a lot of insight into kind of how the the sausage is made in this video it's definitely worth to watch yeah um and then honestly I saw you sitting on the floor with your headphones in writing on a laptop and I was like ah yes I have seen this scene before yeah very much so And Luke did one of his iconic show floor walks with Sammy getting a ton of free food homemade cookies, Red Bull.

Do you know about that bit? No. When Sammy and I do show floor walks, I try to acquire as many snacks for Sammy as I can. So like part of, okay, so we started doing these show floor walks at CES when like pool cleaning robots were like the main thing. Yeah. And it was just so boring, but we had to do a show floor walk. Yeah.

So to like make the content more fun. and made it about like, how can I acquire Sammy as many snacks as possible as like this subplot? And then it just has become a thing that we do every time. And I think we might have set the record this time. It was like actually amazing. A can of red, if we look at total dollar value acquired in snacks, a can of Red Bull is like really high up there. And we got one. Huh.

So that was like, that was pretty good. All right. Rock on. I actually, this is a sample size of one, but I heard it was a good year for, just like prising and giveaways. I played badminton with someone yesterday who won a 32 gig kit of ram and someone he knows won a 5080. Whoa. So like yeah I don't know I don't know what it was about this CompuTechs yeah we didn't really engage in that like there was nothing going on and yet everyone was just a lot of money yeah yeah um not a lot happening but a lot of money floating around we still have

one more CompuTech float plane exclusive in fact I guess there's a solid chance that that's what Sammy's working on right now. Nice. Sorry, this is not a great tripod situation. Not really designed for what is being used for, but it works. But it's from my, it's from my South Korea Mall trip. Oh. So this is now part of my, this is now part of my kit. It works. It fits and sits. So if you want to visit Computex and filter through all the AI nonsense, uh, you can check out of LMG.g.g slash FPWAN. And our discussion question, oh, right, yeah, oh, right. Okay.

Our discussion question is, what were some of the coolest things you saw at CompuTechs? I think I already kind of, well, I said one of them, which was I really like the wooing dials. I think that's a really cool thing that I haven't seen with keyboards before. And being able to place them wherever you want, I think it's just awesome. I've seen dials, haven't seen them like that. Yeah, modular dials. put them wherever you want that's cool and I could I could really see like again video editor CAD designer something like that swapping basically all their F keys for just a bunch

of different dials that being potentially get rid of them that being potentially helpful the other one is as Sammy suggested the immersion cool setup because of course it was I did I wasn't gonna bother actually making a video of it but I thought their block design was really interesting and it's a short on the LTT channel right now and you can see in the thumbnail you just go to the thumbnail and then potentially share your screen I'm gonna share my screen so hard because I have that power I'm so excited dude this is so cool it's an immersion cooled system so you wouldn't normally expect to see what looks like water cooling blocks on it but then you might also

notice that this only has one tube those are that's the GPU vertically mounted in front of the motherboard. So it only has one tube. So what's really happened, you can see those, like you're seeing the open fins on the end. So it delivers the theoretically coldest oil directly to the component. And then the oil like squishes out of the water block

into the rest of the system, floats around, gets pulled out. So there's one out and two ins. And the ins go directly to CPU and GPU. Wait, one out? There's like a pump. going out to the radio. Oh, two in, oh, okay, okay.

I might be using the bad term. Okay, so you've got two supplies and one return. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Sorry if I... What happens if you submerge a peepin in liquid?

He's yelling at me. This ionic is going to be. Oh, God, I hate it. I never used the shorts into face. Watching Linas run into shorts was very funny. Why is Luke so animated and I hate this? Hey, get rid of it, get rid of it. Oh, man.

Hey, there. Geez. I'm not made for this, Luke. That was great. But yeah, it was cool. Maybe it's been done before. I haven't personally seen it before, so seeing it in person was pretty cool. All right.

It costs way too much. Of course it does. It makes no sense. Not for you. Not for me. Maybe it does make dollars. They were they did say like quite plainly that this was not a product for like Your gaming PC at home. Yeah, it is in it in like a PC form factor, but they were talking like edge compute

Bob blah blah blah blah stuff like that. It really is time for us to to do another Submersion cooled Luke PC isn't it? I think are we ready now? They'd be cool like is are there any like mineral oil can air concerns anymore now that you're not as much Because the computers in a different room now. All right. So it might be time. It might be time. We can do something.

I think we've got to do it. I think we got to do it. I think we've got to do it. Didn't we even like find a case that we wanted to use? Did we? I thought so. Yeah. Because I thought we like, oh man.

You know what? No. No. Because you know how you. Oh, this is hilarious. You wanted to do a NAS. And then I held it hostage saying I only ever. agreed to pay for your gaming PC, I'll build you a NAS, but it has to be mineral oil cooled,

and you have to actually use it. Is this ringing a bell now? And then you were like, no, I can't. I'll just build my own NAS because I'm concerned about the mineral oil. And I was like, okay, suit yourself. And then you were like, I'm going to build a NAS. Oh, wait, DRAM. I don't want to. They always come crawling back. They come crawling back from my DRAM. You're going to build, because it would be submerged. So you're going to be. build me a flash-based NAS I don't know if it'll be flash-based you're gonna do a why are we submersion cooling a hard drive mass well we won't subversion cool a hard drive oh I guess we could helium hard drives are sealed now oh really yeah we totally could what the

yeah yeah yeah yeah paint crats is in the chat it goes yeah our hard drives sealed now yeah yeah the new high capacity hard drives are sealed now what okay I've been out of that game that was a That's kind of interesting, actually. Yeah. I don't know of any submerged hard drives. Yes. That makes it more interesting. The most submerged hard drive so far.

Oh, dude. Dude. Yeah, so submersion as. I knew there was like helium drives, but I didn't realize they were sealed. Yeah. Yeah, they have to be because, and they have to be like mega seal. I just didn't put together. Because helium's a super, super small molecule.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're... It's going to try to escape. Yeah, they, like, need, like, I remember them explaining to it to me back in the day. Like, they needed, like, even, like, thicker chassis or something because helium will just, like, escape from things. Interesting. Yeah. Hmm.

Molecule. Nice. Xfin in Float Play chat. Yeah. People are already meming the, like, I'll show you a submerged hard drive. Get it. Get it. No. Nice. Solid.

It would be. It would be solid. But not solid state. Yeah. If your hard drives solid for more than four hours. All right. Hey, we've got an update on the Boink Pentathlon. Speaking of solid hard drives. It is now complete in this event, LTT competed against 20 other teams by using computing power to support scientific

research and progress. This year, we won silver overall thanks to our 93 participants. Across all projects, LTT earned over 845 million points. And I just want to do a special thanks to Pankrats from our... Pankrats? You're in chat right now. Okay, first of all, aren't you supposed to be at work? What are time zones?

What's he doing in chat? I think it might be... It's half that. And second of all, second of all, why are you... Oh, it's, okay, it's late. And second of all, why are you personally donating to this project? The company can donate prizes to the project. I think we did.

We did? Yeah. Pancrette, you don't have to donate stuff. I've done it for years, he says. Okay, well, thank you. It's pretty cool. Special thanks to Pancre. Dogwich, Sequence 211, and some anonymous forum members for donating a total of 27 prizes for the event.

Additionally, 10 participants will be walking away with a $100 LTT store gift card. This is just a really cool forum community initiative that we're happy to continue to support. Maybe next year we'll take home the gold. I knew it was coming. I looked at the overall ranks. There's lead eater sitting at like 40% home. Well, yeah. Massive thanks to everyone who participated

and to SETI, Germany, for hosting the competition. The final rankings and event summary can be found in the final blog, which is over at nelitisectives.com slash blogs. There's not a lot of posts, so it shouldn't take you long to find it. Lead eater, absolute Chad. All right, what else we got? Oh, we can collapse that one.

Anthropics going public? Sure. everybody's going public. Well, you know, I actually find this to be a very interesting time. And I know that that's sort of like a witch doctor curse. May you live in interesting times. But this is an interest. As someone who is not very invested, literally in the stock market,

I am quite invested in the story of the stock market right now. And I am finding it very interesting. between SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic, all the money that is just chasing space and AI right now, what these like mega IPOs are going to like do to the financial markets is very interesting to me. Since we talked about that everything is red topic earlier in the show, I did think that some of the people saying, oh, it's just being redistributed and we couldn't find where it was redistributed to. it could be these upcoming IPOs. I had that thought while we were talking about.

Consolidating cash. So it could be preparing for things like this, the SpaceX IPO, et cetera. They might need, like you just said, cash on hand at the moment. So Anthropic, the company behind Cloud, as I like to call it, has confidentially filed, what? It sounds classier. It's good, I like it.

Has confidentially filed a draft S1 with the SEC for a proposed IPO. The filing comes less than a week after a 65 billion Series H round pushed the company's valuation to $965 billion. Surpassing OpenAI's $852 billion. Crazy.

No share count or pricing has been set, and the company says the offering depends on market conditions. Revenue run rate reportedly hit around $47 billion annualized as of May 2026, up from roughly $10 billion a year earlier. Anthropic does seem to be the one that is... They do, actually. Actually... actually making this business model maybe kind of make financial sense.

Maybe. This kicks off what Wedbush analysts are calling the floodgates for the IPO market. SpaceX is targeting a June 12th listing at up to a $2 trillion valuation. OpenAI is preparing its own confidential filing, and all three are racing to go public in what could be one of the most consequential IPO cycles since the dot-com era. Yeah. What a thing to compare to. Yeah.

NASDAQ changed its index rules effective May 1st, cutting the waiting period for the NASDAQ 100 from three months to just 15 trading days from mega cap IPOs. FTSC Russell cut theirs to five days. Goldman Sachs estimates the NASDAQ change alone could trigger up to 60 billion enforced buying. Okay, so that's a whole thing. And that makes me deeply uncomfortable for anyone who's like retirement, like their 401K, 401k is just sort of buying these index funds because as soon as like a new mega cap stock is included you like have to buy it and then you know every contribution you make like

force buys these things like if you were ever wondering how it is that Tesla's car sales can go down and they can fall way behind in robotics which is apparently the future of their company and like the stock doesn't just plummet it's because once you're in these index funds people are just it's just auto buying and yeah 60 billion dollars in forced buying uh that's that's a terrifying amount of money if if this does dot com who yeah there is there is this is a side tangent thing but I want to say it before I forget max O'Drive brought it up I saw this news this morning Did you see Google is going to pay SpaceX $920 million a month for compute?

Apparently that went through very recently. This whole thing is just the money floating around is insane. We've talked about the money cycle going between these companies before. Now it's going into like renting entire data centers off each other. Like it's still going. They're finding what did Sam Altman call it? Innovative financial solutions or something. I said that there, he said something on the lines of like opening eye needs to focus

more on financial innovation instead of just tech innovation. This was, this was like a while ago. Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, Ballster makes, uh, Ballster points out that, you know, if these get into the SMP, it would be very dangerous for the government to let these things fail because that would wipe out pensions everywhere. What over the S&P wasn't 50K, dude? Which at a time of, at a time where in general, Western populations are aging, wiping out pensions would put even further burden on the smaller,

this-shaped younger generation to support them. Like, as much as it's, I think, easy for Gen Zs and millennials and even some Gen X's to kind of look at the boomers and go, hey, that just like bull run that was your entire life and all that net worth that you accumulated mostly passively, you know, FU, and I hope it all collapses. That wouldn't necessarily be good because I think in general it's better for that wealth to be preserved so that it can be transferred rather than for it to be completely just wiped off the face of the earth right now.

But don't listen to me. I'm not an economist. That's a good point. Dan and chat said this is why I keep telling people to stop being poor. I don't know why no one listens to me. What? I should be in charge of the economy.

It just makes so much sense. He did say that. That is a, yeah, that is an interesting point. No one listens to me It's getting very irritating They literally sell bootstraps Oh wait, they don't have any money to buy Okay, maybe I haven't thought this through

What's next? This is a off-current topic thing That might be a good come up for there Yeah, I thought you, oh no This is the one that I thought you were going to pick For the before show This is so cool This is very interesting

I was reading it before the show a little bit but I didn't finish. Physicists just achieved perfect randomness for the first time, which made me do a, huh, when I first read that. Researchers at E.H. Zurich have demonstrated a method for generating certifiably perfect random numbers, a longstanding challenge in cybersecurity, including, if you want to look into a really fun article,

Cloudflare's lava lamps being like some of the solutions that they have for trying to generate random numbers. Generating numbers that seem random is pretty easy, and there's a lot of different solutions for it. The hard part is proving that there's no hidden bias quietly steering the output, like, I don't know, the ambient temperature of the room that the lava lamps are in. But not from formulas, but from the physical imperfections and systemic errors in the hardware. Even previous quantum random number generators, like ones based on photons hitting beam splitters, carry these slight biases, which is what makes the results, the result of perfect randomness quite notable.

The ETH Zurich team took two quantum bits or qubits, cooled them to near absolute zero, and placed them 30 meters apart. The things we do for a random number. For science! And then linked them through a cooled tube using microwave photons to create quantum entanglement. The distance is deliberate. It's far enough that the qubits can. can't secretly share information during a measurement, even at the speed of light, apparently. The clever part is what the team calls randomness amplification.

What a great name for a band. It's a noise band called randomness amplification. They deliberately started with imperfect, biased random numbers and used them to decide how to measure the qubits, then fed those measured results through an algorithm that turns the flawed input into output they can certify as perfectly random. Something that's known to be physically impossible to achieve using normal everyday physics. It only works because of quantum mechanics. The other big deal is that the certification comes from the quantum behavior they actually observed, a device-independent approach, rather than trusting the hardware.

Long term, the researchers pitch it as an atomic clock for randomness. A physically certified source that other systems can rely on to be checked against, which is actually really interesting. Yeah, right? His whole thing is wild because one of the fun taglines for the nerds, which I have pulled out many a time, is that nothing is truly random. You can't make truly random on a computer. And then people go like, okay, dude, yeah, but we're just trying to

pick like one out of ten to pick a place to go for dinner and it's like okay sure but but it is it has been true it's been a real problem yes I have to say has been now for cryptographic applications it's been a legitimate actual problem potentially user sorry yeah potentially security vulnerabilities if people can figure out what the bias is and then find some way to plan for it which is not always easy but sometimes it is so yeah gosh I just thought this was so cool and the lengths that they went to. Yeah, amazing. This sounds awesome.

30 meters, yes, we need to, 30 meters away. Okay. They still can't communicate at light speed. Got them. This was awesome, very cool. Proton Mail is letting folks send emails from their Gmail address. Which I didn't originally get, but sounds actually really cool.

Proton Mail can now connect directly to Gmail, letting you send and receive Gmail messages from Proton while keeping your existing Gmail address. And that sounds like it defeats the purpose of using Proton mail. Yeah. At first. But wait. It's designed to make switching away from Gmail less painful.

So what Proton can do is limit how much Google can learn from your email activity. If your contacts also use Proton, your emails can be end-to-end encrypted, preventing Google from getting into sweet, sweet data. And the big part. The feature improves privacy and inbox consolidation, even if Google still has access to email sent to your Gmail account. This is more of a bridge than a complete replacement for Gmail. But what it can do is it can slowly but surely allow you to transition away. Or if you do just basically want to stay for most everyday things, but then have some very security communication that you could route through it,

It could also do that. Oh, our discussion question is, can you explain why email alternatives like Proton are so important? The topic preparer says, I use Gmail. I always think about switching it up. What's a Gmail alternative like Proton's pitch and what is the appeal? I mean, the appeal is encryption. The fact that you pay for the product, so you are not the product. They're not reading your emails.

They're not using it to serve you targeted ads. They're not selling a profile about you to advertisers. It's just email. I think it's like, I think there's a lot of push these days for locally hosted services, data privacy, stuff like that. And I don't think it's because suddenly a massive part of the population is like doing bad things that they need to hide from people. I think it's just things were already ridiculous.

And in the age of chatbots, things are getting even more ridiculous in terms of grabbing your data and using it for potentially very negative things for you. And it's just like, I don't know, if I have a bunch of stuff in my backpack, I don't want to have my backpack just searched by any random person on the street. Maybe just screw off. It's my backpack. It's not because I'm like hiding illicit substances or weapons or something in my backpack. Yeah, you're not Luigi. Who might not have had a weapon in there? We don't know.

I don't think you did. We don't know where that weapon came from. Nowhere. It didn't even exist. But it's just, yeah, I don't know. Just screw off. It's my stuff. So having the ability to just keep prying eyes away from your own thing is good.

I think a lot of these cloud companies know too much about us. And that's been true for a very long time. But I think the tools to make that not as true, it's still going to be pretty true, but make that not as true are much more approachable and starting to actually become kind of fun and interesting. It can still be pain to self-host things, but there are a lot more guides out there.

You can use public outlets, to help you learn how to set up local ones or other forms of local hosting. And yeah, the tools are better. HexOS from from. Eshtech. Eshtek. Investment disclosure for me. For him.

And just, I mean, like PewDie Pye's thing, it helps you set it up, right? So like there's with the cookbook portion of the tool, there's just a lot more resources and it's a lot more approachable than it's ever been. So people are finally kind of taking the leap. Yeah. Another leap is the leap that Wildcat Lake made in laptop affordability. Across the PC industry, manufacturers are using Intel's new, low-power, Wildcat Lake CPUs to build affordable yet seemingly premium laptops.

We're talking thin designs, long battery life. metal construction, high refresh rate displays, and even performance that comfortably handles everyday workloads. What makes the trend notable is that these machines are no longer just competing on spec, as we've normally seen at the low end of the Windows laptop range. The emphasis is instead on delivering a polished experience at mainstream prices, with some of the aforementioned features appearing in laptops that would have been considered budget priced devices just a few years ago. Dell's new XPS 13 is one of the most prominent Wildcat Lake laptops announced so far, pairing Intel's new chip with a CNC aluminum chassis, a 13.4 inch, 2.5K, up to 120 hertz variable refresh rate touchscreen, and a weight of less than

one kilogram, and the pricing starts at 699 US or 599 for students. Dude, did you touch it? No. you touch my wildcat? I did not touch your wildcat. It's pretty sick. It only has two type Cs, unfortunately, to get it like as thin and slick as it is. The ASUS has a little bit more reasonable I-O, but they haven't announced pricing. But dude, the Dell, it feels like... Put a lot of people were really into Dell this show. It feels like it should start at like 1299. It's really interesting with the Neo sparking these like super premium. cheap laptops.

So Dell insisted. It must have been already becoming. Dell insisted. They were like, we telegraphed this move before, like way before that we were going to do a like very aggressively priced entry level into, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever, but I'm looking at it going like, right, but like, did you say that because, you know, the scuttle butt in the industry was that Apple was going to be pricing the Neo so aggressively? Like I just...

I was going to say it's probably because they got tipped off relatively early. You learn after being in this industry for a while, there's a lot of people that just kind of float between companies. I guarantee you there's people at Dell that used to work at Apple and vice versa. So, you know, whatever Dell might claim, it really does seem like the XPS 13 is directly targeting the Neo on price. It's also interesting because apparently, I think I read this this morning as well, but Apple is like massively ramping production of the Neo. apparently they doubled it. Yeah. Which like...

That's crazy. Dude, I... Look, I'm not an analyst or whatever, but I could have told them that that thing was going to just fly off the shelf. So they just, they nailed it. They completely redefined what people expect from an entry-level laptop,

and I'm so glad. It's always frustrating for me to see how quickly the PC industry could have done something awesome, or how quickly Android phone makers could have done something awesome? I was just always stuck following, which is so frustrating. But fine, whatever. If we just have to let Apple take the lead and then eventually, thanks to Apple, we get better stuff.

I've said this many times. Thank you, Apple. Yeah. Not because necessarily I use all your products. I really like some of your products. I'm a big fan of the AirPods Pro line. You know? Oh, yeah, AirPods, AirPods enjoyers, both of us.

But all the other stuff that I don't care to use day-to-day, I still appreciate because it makes everyone else do it a little bit better. Great job. And Wildcat Lake looks legitimately exciting. The performance isn't amazing, but multi-threaded, it should be pretty close to the A18 Pro. It's in the MacBook Neo, even though the A18 Pro does have a single-thread advantage, but also, you know, some of these PC makers might think to actually cool Panther Lake, or excuse me, Wildcat Lake, Apple. doesn't really see fit to do that. So I think there's going to be some kind of give and take on the performance side. And man, the devices feel good.

Everything we touched felt good. I would have guessed that the Neo was going to be really strong. I was really strong. Users, it went. I know a lot of people who have never used Macs that got a Neo. That was pretty crazy. It's a compelling package. Speaking of compelling package,

noctua shows off improved. Thermocyphon prototype. Not to a dedicated some booth space at CompuTechs 20206 to show off their ongoing work on their passively circulated liquid cooling. The thermosiphon heat sink works by... I would say fluid cooling. It's two-phase. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. I like that. The thermo-siphon heat sink works by... It works by exposing fluid in a closed... closed loop, oh my goodness, typos are going to mess me up right now, and a closed loop to a heat source. The CPU in this case, the heated... Do you want me to do this?

Yeah. Okay. Not to a dedicated smooth space at Computex to show off their ongoing work on passively circulated fluid cooling. Their thermosiphon works by exposing fluid in a closed loop to a heat source. In this case, the CPU. The heated liquid becomes a gas, entering a condenser. So that sits up and takes the role of like your traditional radiator in your water cooling, where it sheds the heat, reverting to a liquid, naturally falling down, condensing, you might even say, to the bottom of the loop.

It's a simple principle, but it gets quite a bit trickier when it meets the real world. And many companies have tried to do this. We've shown off prototypes at Computex before. Noctua demoed their last prototype last year, running, I believe, it was a 9800 or a 7800 x3d or something like that running a game and it was not throttling but it was only running a game this year they stepped it up um they were running a 9950 x3d at a package power tracking of 230 watts so they were running an occt load on it and they put it right next to a triple fan traditional pumped radiator system and both of them were within about two to three

degrees depending on which way the breeze was kind of flowing within the booth that's awesome very impressive just a little over 80 degrees on both of them no pump is it is it silent hard to tell on the show floor that's fair because I have encountered other pumpless systems there's that case that we did a video on a little while ago that was like the the callios street collaboration case and it makes a distinct beautiful system um yeah it's it's in my basement yeah i could not take it apart i just incredibly i couldn't allow it to happen yeah gorgeous gorgeous system but it has a distinct uh sound that i think has been best described as the sound of a toilet

tank refilling from another room just kind of like a trickly boyley yeah exactly which is a soft whirring of a fan or a very, very quiet pump that is going to sound very consistent might actually be worse. It doesn't matter in the context of where I have the system deployed. It's in the rec room, so it's mostly used for VR. Yeah, so whatever. So you have a VR headset on, so whatever. It looks so cool.

But I haven't heard just how silent Noctua's is just yet. I also saw a two-phase system. It was not like this at all, and there... Was there? There was technically pumps involved. But it was an immersion cold system where the boiling point was like 30 degrees Celsius. That's cool. So they had a pump and huge, massive triple rad and each fan was like this big.

And there was, I think it was four or five fans per thing. It's for a four-you server. It's not like, this is not for your computer at home. I'll take two. Unless you have a four-U server at home, which our audience might. Yeah, exactly. I realized that Yeah, I realize that

While saying like Not for your sister at home that both people I'm talking to right now have one Oh, take two One Oh yeah, fair, fair Darn it People chat are bringing up Okay, whatever, all right

You want to do a group by? But yeah, they had So they were they were water cooling with a pump A pipe that went through the main chamber That once it like evaporated, it would condense on the pipe and then come back down. So it was not at all for noise. It was just a method of cooling for them, which is interesting.

Hey, after last week's explosion, Blue Origin has vowed to launch a new rocket sometime this year. New Glenn. Yep, New Glenn rocket, yeah, their new Glenn rocket blew up during a pre-launch hot fire test, destroying the vehicle and damaging its only active launch pad. The blast was dramatic enough to trigger industry-women. doubts that New Glenn could fly again before 2027. But despite that, Blue Origin CEO, Dave Limp, is projecting a surprisingly fast recovery, key infrastructure.

Fuel tanks, water systems, and flight hardware survived, and Blue Origin said it expects to launch New Glenn again before the end of 26, which if they can pull it off is good news for Artemis, good news for space, good news for just sort of in general things. You know, I'm stoked to hear the vow. There is a lot of energy in space travel and rocketry right now, both literally and figuratively. I was going to say. And I suspect that they will put a lot of effort behind this. Some of the damage is pretty intense.

Yeah. But money can solve a lot of time. Yeah. So maybe they'll figure it out. I mean, when you have, you know, me money, you could wait six months for, you know, someone to look at a building permit. When you have Bezos money. They'll look at it now. So maybe they can get this done.

Yeah, yeah. There's also like, in this case, the government is like literally backing them, which I think helps that whole situation as well. Like there's, there's some stuff behind it. Maybe they'll start cooking on this real quick. But as far as my understanding goes, it should take longer than this to fully understand all the damage. So we'll see how that goes. Hopefully it's good. Gilmour D in Floop playing chat says, wait, wait, wait.

The CEO of Blue Pneas Rocket Company is named Mr. Limb. Did I hear that right? That is pretty funny. There's a disgusting question that said, I've asked before, but when are we going to see Linus in space? are explosions like this one holding you back from taking a trip to the stars. Did you know that the LTT screwdriver has been used to make satellites? Did you know that? No?

Yeah, it totally has. Really? Oh, yeah. The LTT screwdriver has made a lot of stuff. We've sold over a quarter million screwdrivers. They're out there. It's actually pretty funny. Every time someone shows up on the forum or the LTT subreddit or realistically anywhere,

like dunking on the LTT screwdriver, blah, blah, blah blah overpriced blah blah blah this or whatever you know this is not a real tool it's a toy for you know geeks or whatever people come crawling out of the woodwork being like i am an aviation mechanic and here's my like battle war it's the best screwdriver ever run you need to shut your damn mouth like people dude people are passionate about their tools no in general though about tools oh yeah people are yeah like people treat tools like a freaking religion yeah i always if you thought some PlayStation was bad. Just like walk into a group of people who really like Milwaukee with like, I don't know,

the yellow team or something and see what happened. What did you say about Milwaukee? Did you see people using Milwaukee? It gets hot pretty fast. Yeah, no, it's, and so to have us in that same conversation is cool. It's actually really funny to me because it's not something that I ever really thought about as we were working on tools. Sorry, what?

Dan Good said actively using my LTT screwdriver to fix Google servers at a the data center right now. Yep. Uh, Mew says LTT screwdriver has made feral animal traps for the Australian government. Like it's just, dude, people, you, you can, you can talk about a man's appearance. You can talk about a man's penis size. You can even talk about a man's wife and children. But if you talk about his tools, he's going to throw hands. Maybe not the kids. Maybe not the kids. The kids might be the one. No, it's the tools.

The tools aren't the children. Dude, I've met people like that, though. They're like, their trucks and their tools. I was going to say, trucks is kind of up there. Red line. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny.

We should, we're rapidly running out of time. We're rapidly approaching a deconstruction event of the show. I'm trying to use rocket, rocket, rocket, Deconstruction. event. A rapid deconstruct an event. Okay, we do need to do the LTT store call out. Dan, are you able to show the screen so that I can read at the same time as show the

tab? Oh, wait, you know what? I'll just- No. I can read it. No, you can't. Okay. I can show the screen. Oh, you can share the screen.

Am I- Nice. That'll work great. No, no, the next one over. Give me a sec. Oh, there we go. Nice. I don't have one yet.

Hold on. Nice. Yeah, he's got this. This week, Creator Warehouse has achieved peak comfort. Luke, we've done it. Great job. We are launching our Super Soft crew and Super Soft shorts. They are made of the same unbelievably soft fleece as our fan favorite Super Soft hoodie

with a generous, relaxed fit. And they're designed with Welp pockets. For those who don't know what Welp means, it's a sleek internal pocket that's built directly into the fabric rather than sewn on top. Basically, it's like it's an elevated, more premium look. Did I mention, by the way, that these pockets are big enough for your phone or random capable charger?

And the shorts have no less than three pockets. So get comfy and head over to LMG.G-G-G-Slashing Super Soft Collection. This is the part where I would normally, if we were doing a longer show, say, hey, checkout messages. You can send a checkout message when you go ahead and place an order. But I think we're just relying on the people who already knew about that to do a few comms at the end of the show here. But yeah, go check out the new Super Soft crew and shorts. By the way, I think we have finally struck a pretty fun cord. With our audience, with the, if buying isn't owning t-shirt from last week.

Oh? That was our most successful t-shirt launch in a very, very long time. People are freaking loving this shirt. Yeah. Yeah, I think we might have to do a restock on this bad boy. Yeah, get wrecked. Oh, you can't see Luke's screen. I swear it's always my people.

size is always sold out on everything. I mean, you're definitely the target demo. Excel Talls. For this shirt, yeah. Yeah, I came up with, I think I came up with another fun one. Was it related to this? Hold on, I have to check my emails to Bridget. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

I wanna do a hat that just has like an ISO, icon on it. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. So like I feel like there's, I feel like, you know, I don't want to go straight, like, let's do an LTTI patch. You know? Would you do ISO icon on the front and then like, as a badge, like, right there?

Yeah, you could do a skull crossbones or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to do some just kind of like more coded references, right? We don't want to be overt about it, right? you know where we want to keep it

we want to keep it real subtle well okay the parrot with the it's a little direct it's okay the hat can be more subtle but yeah I don't know I think it's I think it's kind of I think it's kind of fun and it's honest is what it is

this is fun the UK's competition and markets authority or CMA has ordered Google to let publishers opt out of AI overviews the CMA was able to impose this because it designated Google is having a strategic market status in general search and it has similar investigations ongoing into Apple and Microsoft,

so this likely isn't a one-off. The ruling lands after Google announced that it would significantly expand AI overviews in search, prompting backlash from publishers who are worried about losing traffic. It requires Google to let publishers block AI overviews from pulling their content via a toggle in Google Search console at both the directory and page level, and guarantees that opting out won't hurt a site's regular search rankings. The catch, though, is that sites' that opt out, get zero traffic, and zero impressions from AI features, so you are trading exposure

for protection. Yeah, I think you're going to effectively get deranged, even if it's not, like, officially. The ruling also makes proper attribution mandatory when a site's content is used to generate a summary and gives publishers the option to stop Google from using their work to fine-tune its models. If you can actually prevent them from doing that. Proper attribution is going to be a problem. Better citation is definitely something I'd like to see from AI summaries. One of the tricks that I do to try to get my, you know, AI stuff to, it's not to get it to hallucinate less, it's to catch it faster when it does, is to make it cite sources and then actually go look at the sources because often it just like hallucinates a URL.

So, we'll see how well that goes. Notably, Google thought this, as it argued in February, that excessive attribution of lots of sources may worsen the user experience and lead to fewer clicks, not more. Bruh. Uh-uh. No. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh.

They essentially claimed users don't want to see where the information came from. Don't care. Google now has nine months to fully comply with an implementation plan due within one month. The CMA plans to assess the ruling's impact on publisher web traffic before considering whether Google should be paying publishers directly for their content. This is good progress in my opinion. Let's see how it goes and hopefully this continues to expand before the entire Independent Web dies. All right. What it is doing? Why don't we do a couple of comms here and then we'll and then we'll call it we've got a thing to do Sure, or okay, sorry last thing before that

I had so much fun shooting a not Computex video this week. I think my I think my favorite video of the week was actually not Computex I went back to the tech mall. I don't even know. Sorry, I'll let you finish. No, no, but. I was going to say, I don't even know. The video is not even out yet. And I want you to expand

on this concept. Yeah. Watching you do the thing while I was there was like, yeah, this is cool. From a chair in the corner here. They never even gave me a chair. I understand.

Damn. That is the ultimate. That's the ultimate. Can you get any lower, but also being up higher? My gosh. Anyway, sorry. So the last couple of years at Computex, the first time, I don't remember why we did it the first time. But then the second time, because the first time was really successful and fun and good vibes.

but basically we've gone to this local tech mall and just bought over-the-top computers and then like giving them away on the street. And that was fun, but I felt like, okay, you know, it's played out now. How do we mix this up? How do we like flip the script? How do we subvert expectations? And I was like, I'm not going to shop at the tech mall.

I'm going to work at the tech mall. So I reported for duty. was it two days ago not yesterday the day before i put on my i put on my apron yeah and i said okay boss what do i do i saw and i went back to the store that we bought the system from the very first year so two years ago and he was my boss for the day he built that system troubleshoot this reinstall windows on that water cool this bend this tube uh he left for long periods of time. I don't know if you know this. Nope. He would like leave for 20 minutes, half an hour to go pick up a customer's

R-made you know GPU or like do whatever he's got to do. We had an issue with one of the builds where a lot of those shops are single owner operator and this will happen. Yep. They'll do that. And so one of the issues that I had with one of the builds that I was working on was that the backplate on the GPU wouldn't fit with the oversized RAM cooler that the customer wanted. They were interfering because of the thick backplate. So we had to use a GPU riser in order to even complete the build. And we had the cage for the for the for this vertical GPU kit, but we didn't actually have the riser cable. So I was able to test fit it with the

cage, but he had to like go just to another store and like buy a kit so that I could complete the build. So I was like working on another system in the meantime. I forget where I was going with this, but like, he left. He was gone. And, like, if anyone came to the store, it was me and Google Translate. Like, I had no training, so I was just, like, writing people's names and the issues with their computers on scraps of paper. Like, I just... Dude, it was so much fun.

I'm actually very proud of the result of... of one of the things that I did, I don't think you saw it. Not the final. Dude. I'm assuming I know what you're talking about, but not the final. I've still got it.

Oh. Oh, you mean the skill? Oh, yeah. I thought you meant the thing. And I was like, I thought that was like customer build. No, no, no. I still got it, brother.

Heck yeah. I did a 90 degree bend by hand, put it down on the tile. Perfect. Nice. Actually perfect. Nice. Dude, I still got it.

Anyway. It was a lot of fun, and I'm really excited for that video to come out. It's going to be freaking awesome. All right, let's do a couple of comms. Yeah, sure. I've just got a couple here for you. If you had to do your job for a week using only your phone, would you be able to manage? Or would it be an actual problem for the company?

Also, shipping seems faster these days to the UK. Think. Ooh. So, I... want to try. However, I think I would have to use something like the Z-fold, or the tri-fold, excuse me, from Samsung that supports Dex because there's no way that I could do like script review, like collaborative work on just a, like just a phone size screen. That would not, that would not work for me. But I think if I could use

Samsung decks, I could probably get by. We don't really review raw footage, or I don't have to review raw footage over the network anymore. We use frame I.O. So that would have been one of the obstacles in the past that would have prevented me from doing that. Otherwise, I think I could pull it off as long as I can use a keyboard mouse and a large monitor. As for shipping, random shout out to Mr. Tony.

he has been behind the scenes doing stuff doing the work we had a lot of operational debt in creator warehouse for years and that's not that's not a shot at anybody but Tony's been doing great

when you're learning when you're building the plane while you're flying it and moving fast and sometimes you know stuff happens and you just got it you just got to kind of solve problems and then deal with that later, you know. But Tony has come in and basically from the outside improved nothing. But from the inside, just fixed the damn machine. Like, okay, at risk of revealing too much about the challenges that we had in the early

days, I think it was about a year ago, I was made aware that every return that had ever been returned to create a warehouse was still sitting in a corner of the warehouse on giant stacked pallets. All of them. That's when we did those like sale things. Those blind boxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that was just like every return we'd ever had. We went through it, graded it, made sure it was still in good condition or whatever, because a lot of it's still brand new. Logistics is really hard. And people, to a lot of people, it's so simple. I order things on Amazon and they just arrived the next day. It's so simple. It's like, yeah. Yeah, for Amazon. We're not Amazon. And I don't think you want us to be Amazon. Yeah. Like it's complicated. And the fact that we are

a company at the relatively tiny scale that we are and we ship to so many countries is crazy. I don't want to make any promises other than that I know that Tony's working on it. But one of the things that people have thought is just insane that we don't offer is the ability to choose your own shipper. Oh. Your own shipping provider. We don't allow it. We just ship with the one shipping provider.

And the reason for that is that it decompilatifies our logistics and gets us better rates so that our overall shipping can be more price competitive. Yeah. But that's something that I know that he is actively working super hard on and that a lot of people are going to be really excited for. So, yeah, massive shout out. Mr. Tony for all the logistics work that he's been doing and and a lot of it has been especially not visible because it's been around dealing with like tariff crap that ended up being

completely unnecessary because they were deemed illegal. Now they're coming back. Yeah, I saw that unless they're not. Unless they're not. Yeah, who knows? The straight's open unless it isn't, you know. True. I can't hear by the way. I don't know what is. Yeah, can't hear anything. Oh, why not? I never unloaded it. Hello? Sorry, can you hear this?

Call the Bondulance. I meant from Dan primarily. Oh, okay, well, here. You can just read it on here. I have it. Sure. Okay, go for again. Just bought an LTT bag. Hi! Anyway, hi, Luke.

Specifically, a question for everyone. I have started a computer repair service. I'd like some professional opinions for stuff like pricing and values. Let me know what he's done. Love you. I don't let you go first. Oh, no, I meant let me know when Dan's done. Oh, he's done talking.

Okay. Am I? Cool. Thanks, man. Ooh, tough time to get into that. It's, I don't know, it might not be a super tough time because I'm assuming people are going to try to keep their systems going for a lot longer than they did in the past. So you might be able to find a niche of people who just really can't upgrade right now. And software issues never completely go away.

Yeah, I think it's less lucrative of a market now because I think antivirus is just like way. way better than it was in like the early 2010's late 20 zeros. Pricing, I have no idea. Values, I've kind of always been on the side of like, you know, the automotive shop that I know that's near me that has like the longest wait list is also the one that is most reputable for like not scamming their customers and stuff. And if you get known as someone that people can reliably go to who will actually fix problems and charge not a low price but a reasonable price for the job that you do hopefully that will continue getting you customers I can't speak from experience on this because I've never tried to put

together a pricing model for a repair shop but what I can tell you is that as someone who has thought about what that model might look like the way that I would want to tackle Luke's not cheap but fair vibe is not quite it doesn't have to be like per minute but like a 15 minute increment billing instead of like you know we start at one hour so you know maybe you could do 15 or half hour increment billing but at like a higher hourly rate or something like that like I could see I could see something like um Or like, you know, or doing parts on like a cost plus model with transparency. Like I always loved that about my mechanic shop back when I had to do, you know, like oil changes and stuff before I had an EV.

Oh, so you don't hide that. Because basically everybody does that. Because just don't hide the fact that you're doing it. No, Oscar would give me an itemized list down to like a 13 cent gasket and he would have his markup on it. You're charging. He's charging you 15 cents for that gasket. And you know it cost him 13. Exactly. And everything was transparent and really honest. And like a big part of building trust is, you know, never advise. If someone comes in asking to spend money, advising them if they shouldn't, that's really, really important. So something I ran into, because I was doing this for a little bit out of high school. Something I ran into is where the money was for me was in service contracts or even individual jobs for, for, fairly small businesses, making sure that their systems were secure. I worked with a lot of, like,

it would be like a notary republic, notary public, notary public, notary public, not only, and like small little law firms and stuff like that where like they cared about their data security where the loss of all their data could be the loss of their company. So like that was a valuable thing to them. They cared about that. But the job for you isn't necessarily like hyper complicated. You just need to be able to way you need a way to be able to jump into their systems quickly and reliably. They need to make sure that their security stuff is

well up to date and that the usage of their computers is locked down enough that it is reasonably secure and you're kind of like I found it useful to literally walk through their little office. He's always really small because I was a small. I was a time operation myself you were but I mean not that small you were never as small as me for instance but walk through their office and make sure like no one's doing sticky note passwords and stuff like that like look observe and actually act on those things that's where I found these amount of money I don't think this person is

suggesting that they're opening a shop because they said they've started a service yeah mobile service seems like kind of a pretty cool way to go definitely the way to go I would not open a brick and mortar. Back when I was still working at the computer store and my aunt and uncle have always really encouraged me to pursue entrepreneurship in some form. I don't think they would have predicted this whole YouTube thing. But my aunt came up with this kind of fun name for a business

that she called Nephew to the Rescue. That's pretty good. Yeah, she was like, basically her concept for it was like tech repair by bike, essentially. and you recruit, whether it's through like an affiliate type program or whether it's like a partnership, you recruit nephews to try to sort of cover a geographical region. And by doing everything just with like kind of your kit on a bicycle and bringing it the service to people, you could be competitive with something like a geek squad by keeping your overhead super low.

and the idea is just that, you know, you're not like a major corporate sort of scary thing, fair and reasonable, friendly pricing, and knowledgeable nephews to kind of come in and help you with your tech stuff. And it seemed like a really cool idea, but I was not at a stage in my life where I was, you know, ready to start a business. But it legitimately seems like, yeah, kind of a pretty fun branding for it. it and a kind of neat model, actually. Pankrat said, having been in computer support business in the past, it will vary from market to market, but business IT support will be $150 to $200 an hour pretty easily in most places, but most lean towards standardized contracts, like support contracts and stuff.

Obviously, more consumer-facing stuff will be a bit less, but I wouldn't expect much less than $100 an hour. Something I liked about standardized contracts was if you do a really good job, you might not need to do any work that month and you still get paid, which is pretty sweet. But that also means that if proverbial poop hits the fan and say it's like a wide attack that's hitting potentially all of the places that you're servicing, you might also have a really terrible month. But yeah, with that, we are overtime. Someone finally noticed. That we're flipped?

Find it. Yeah, someone asked if our faces are... Yeah, here it is. You should unflip it for the... Urban fervor says, am I on drugs? Or are Linus and Luke's faces slightly warped? Yeah, go for it, Dan. Yeah, flip it back and then we can say goodbye. I got to run out. Yeah, sure.

There you go. And I never got to use my technical difficulties background. They work so hard on it. There you go. All right. No. Notice how the text on my shirt is facing the right way now. Yeah.

You got bamboozers. Just give people a hard time for relief. All right, thanks for tuning in guys. See again. Next week, same bad time, same bad channel. Bye! Bye! I'm gonna pack you like, practically everything up in.

What the... Who's this from? Oh. That's cool. I want to show off my technical difficulties background. I'm too proud of it. There we go. Thanks for tuning in, everybody.