The WAN Show - I Just Wanna Do Tech Tips - WAN Show January 24, 2025

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:38 from dragging out. So we set our piece, Steve from Gamers Nexus wrote a manifesto that could probably be best summed up as no you, and then it was done. Or so we thought. Shortly before WAN Show, Lewis Rossman released an hour-long hit piece, and in a now-deleted comment, Steve mentioned he had seen the video before it went live, making it clear that, at the very least, he was involved in reviewing this video before publication. When other creators reached out to us in support, we explicitly discouraged any escalation while
Starting point is 00:01:11 Steve seems to be doing the opposite. So here we are, more or less forced to respond yet again, but we'll keep it much, much shorter this time. Steve asked me to direct any further communications about his ethical breach and persistent defamatory statements to his lawyer, as I clearly stated before. I don't have a lawyer involved and I don't want one involved. I wrote last week's address myself with feedback from my team and this much shorter wrap-up will come from me as well. The core issue has not been addressed at all because of ethical and
Starting point is 00:01:42 process errors Steve published false and damaging information about a competitor. Right of reply matters both because it is essential for accurate reporting and because scandal travels much faster and is a lot stickier in people's minds than the oh oops never mind that comes out when the allegations are found to be false. There's actually a good thread on the subreddit that you guys can check out. That is not the visual for it, but that's fine. The point is that this is so much worse now. Faced with the unavoidable fact that he got it wrong and caused a bunch of damage with his actions, Steve has outright refused to apologize, correct, or retract any of his false statements. That's next level,
Starting point is 00:02:23 man. I am extremely grateful that so many of you are seeing how misrepresentative the original reporting was, both around the Billet Lab situation and around the Honey Thing. And I want to applaud the maturity of the folks, many, many folks, who have come out and said, hey, I'm sorry that I raised a pitchfork while I didn't have the full story. I'm still deeply saddened by the virality of Steve's first video. Because of that, many will never hear the truth, a fact that is worsened by Steve's ongoing refusal to issue any corrections or retractions in spite of the fact that his reporting on me contains clear, objective errors and misquotes. So in summary, Steve's response shows that his standards
Starting point is 00:03:05 for himself fall far short of the standards he holds others to. And look, dude, stealthily removing the word journalism from the GN Patreon changes nothing. This whole thing is getting quite frankly, kind of pathetic. Even my, and I quote, terrible response to the original hit piece acknowledged issues on our side, laid out a path forward which we have taken. I'm so proud
Starting point is 00:03:30 of our team. And it included words like, no excuses, I need to own the mistakes, and sorry. Steve's response contained no such introspection and no better path forward. His mask is now truly off for anyone who used to appreciate him for his ethics and objectivity. As it turns out, he only cares about those things when it's convenient. On that note, just because somebody is running a masterclass in deflection and misdirection, that doesn't mean that absolutely everything they say is wrong. So the last thing I'm going to do today is what you guys rightly expect of me. I will meet my
Starting point is 00:04:03 faults and my errors head-on. I'm sorry that I used unprofessional language, and if I ever said this, truthfully I don't recall it, but if I did, I take that back 100%. I'm sorry and I will work to do better. So where do we go now? I don't know guys. I see your calls to end the drama, but I can only control my side in this My team and I have issued with corrections and retractions where needed we will continue to do so There's a couple fixes that we need for the 5090 video. They're pinned under the video. We're getting all of that sorted Meanwhile, the other side is spitting on our olive branch lawyering up publicly attacking my credibility with no indication that it will end and now
Starting point is 00:04:50 Seemingly colluding with other creators to smear me in public. I don't want to play this stupid game anymore. There are only stupid prizes to be won. So yeah, I think I've said enough for now. Obviously, I'm aware of Rossman's video. We alluded to it earlier, and I have some idea what it's about in the lead up. He was corresponding with me, but I don't think now's the time for that right now Is the time to hang out with awesome people who matter and that's you guys Welcome to the WAN show everyone. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week
Starting point is 00:05:17 Some game makers hope that Grand Theft Auto 6 will cost up to 100 US dollars at launch. And oh man, if we want to shout out creators who are doing awesome work, yeah, and you know, make sure we're getting some views for guys that are just incredible, good people, Bitwit slash Kyle, his CES 2025 coverage is up. So I want you guys to go check that out. He's kind of had a pretty rough Rough couple of weeks to say the least what else we got this week, sir. Wow. I had time again to prep topics a student built an open source laptop in six months and it's actually Really really cool. It's like the videos awesome. We've talked about sorry. Sorry. I'll save it. I'll save it and GPU news
Starting point is 00:06:03 Something really big happened this week and it was a graphics card. Yeah, why don't we talk about that? The show is brought to you today by Squarespace, Notion, and Oh Snap! Along with our rap partner Dbrand and our chair partner Secret Lab. Why don't we jump right into... Ooh, how about student builds open source laptop in six months? I like it. This is actually the coolest thing once you run us through it because you might think okay You might think hearing that like oh, yeah, but like it probably sucks. No What if I told you it didn't okay? Okay, go go go. So I'm probably gonna butcher the name, but it's Anyon I think it's a NYON underscore e the specs are
Starting point is 00:07:09 4k AMOLED display didn't skimp there at all the second I saw that I was like oh we're serious okay sure 16 gigs of DDR4 RAM and RK 3588 SoC which has an 8 core ARM processor with GPU and NPU, which he points out in the video, an M.2 SSD of some capacity, Wi-Fi 6, a 62.9 watt hour battery, which came out to about seven hours of battery life. Sick.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Brian Huang, I hope I said that right, sorry, a senior in high school, mind completely blown, made an open source laptop from scratch he called the Enion. I think it's Enion. I originally read it and thought it was anyone, but then in the video I think he says Enion. Whatever, I'm just going to call it the super cool laptop that I can't believe a high school student made.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's so sick. We're not going to show the video here because you need to go watch it, but we'll talk about it a little bit. And then we'll link it in the chat for you guys. Yeah, because AMD and Intel don't just give you, you know, CPUs and documentation. He instead went with that Rockchip processor. And honestly, where he like really hooked me in the video was diving through the specs of that processor and why he wanted it and things he's gonna do for it
Starting point is 00:08:19 and stuff, very, very cool. A very expensive and complicated part of building a laptop are the IO interconnectO. interconnects. So Brian went with the FriendlyELEC SOM, which has heaps of I.O. on board. We actually used the same board to make a DIY NAS last year. The next problem. Oh yeah, that thing is so cool.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Like so cool. Yeah. The next problem was the display. You can watch the video, but it was a huge pain in the butt. Yeah, The next problem was the display. You can watch the video, but it was a huge pain in the butt. Yeah, that's the TLDW. This is where like, cause he didn't skimp out because there was an option. He could have just got an external laptop display,
Starting point is 00:08:57 mounted it permanently, and then USB-C'd into the laptop and been like, don't worry about that. And that would have been way easier because the thing about mobile display standards, and I really, man, I know I love the finger quotes, but I especially love it here, is that- Byron, oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Is that they are the kinds of standards that nobody seems to be able to agree on, and it can just be, it can be as simple as like the connector looks right and the receptacle looks right, but if you plug them in it just straight up won't work and getting your hands on the wiring diagrams or anything can be an absolute nightmare. So, working with like EDP displays is super not the easiest thing in the world. Couple corrections already, my bad, apparently it's NEON E. Cool. That makes sense. And it's Byron not Brian.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm gonna use dyslexia as my excuse there. That actually works. It is spelled right in the dock. Yeah. I don't know, I just read it wrong. But yeah, the display portion was crazy because honestly when I first saw it, I assumed he was just gonna go that route, right? Yeah, just use the IO Yeah, that would be easy. It easy. Yeah sad magician in chat says calling that a standard is Saint like generosity Yeah, it's a mess. But yeah, the display portion is super cool He also just designed the entire power system to allow for charge and discharge of the batteries.
Starting point is 00:10:25 In total, it has 62.9 watt hours of battery capacity and seven hours of battery life. Okay, that is so cool. Like handling lithium battery charging and discharging, safely especially, is not a high school project. That's so cool. This was a little above and beyond, I think. But he went ahead and made his own wireless keyboard with Cherry MX low profile switches
Starting point is 00:10:50 and custom 3D printed keycaps. That's where you know he's just having fun. When you have, when you have f*** you levels of skill, then you just, you gotta flex it. Why not? Why not? You gotta flex it, brother.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Byron then designed his own CNC'd aluminum chassis and got it anodized. The hinge for the screen uses framework hinges, that's cool. Conveniently available, shout out framework, investment disclosure framework, but like just making parts available for their laptops, love to see it. All said and done, it boots up faster than his M3 MacBook, he does like a drag race near the end of the video. It's cool. I don't, the same actual performance, but it boots up quickly, which is sick.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And there's a line in here that says, I suspect Apple had a bit more of an R&D budget. Yeah, sorry. This is a note from Alex Clark from our team. He says, seriously, watch the video. I learned things about how laptops are made, and I think I have, and I'm gonna editorialize here, I agree, Alex, an above average understanding of laptops.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, I learned a lot. To the point where I'm planning on watching the video again because there was parts in there that I thought were really interesting and I want to absorb it better. Okay, now our first discussion question, I am hijacking this completely because you and I have talked many times about building your own laptop and how it kind of used to be a thing. You could buy a bare bones laptop and you could pick a socketed CPU and RAM and storage and in the case of the one that I, yes, DIY'd for myself for first year university, you could configure it with alternative battery packs.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So I had like a caboose-ass battery pack that stuck out of the bottom of my laptop and actually put it up at an incline. No, no, not that one. That was the Acer Aspire one that extended battery I got later. Sorry, no, this one came out the back straight. It was an M5NE, like bare bones Asus laptop.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Anyway, and you and I have talked about it and we've kind of talked about how like that's dead. Everything is so integrated now that building your own laptop is dead, will stay dead. The fact that companies like Nvidia are actively hostile towards it by trying to kill the MXM, like mobile graphics card standard over and over and over again at every possible opportunity hostile towards it by trying to kill the MXM,
Starting point is 00:13:05 like mobile graphics card standard over and over and over again at every possible opportunity, makes it de- Guess not. Except- Because someone's senior high school project is just gonna demolish that. Except here's something that I didn't see coming. Instead of having modularity, right,
Starting point is 00:13:23 and generic chassis and socketable CPUs and socketable RAM and socketable storage or, you know, slotable storage or whatever, right, so we saw all of that go tightly integrated and we lamented the death of a, you know, DIY laptop. But then it got so much more integrated that now you could take a full system on a chip or system on a module in this case and build a chassis around it and holy crap you can build your own laptop again. And now that Windows on ARM is a thing, theoretically, like you could run like full fat freaking Windows and hand it to someone and have them not even notice. And okay, eventually someone would probably notice they go to run an app that the emulation doesn't work for or whatever else, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:14:13 this could be a computer that you could hand to your auntie and she could just use and you've built it. This is so cool. I just, I didn't see this coming. And honestly, yeah, you don't have crazy GPU power like he's talking about some of the limitations he played This isn't in the notes, but I'm just trying to remember from last night so I might say some things that are slightly wrong because I watched this video, but He was playing Minecraft on it like it can play and I know you're in my career
Starting point is 00:14:37 Please on your phone, but it can play games. So what that's so cool That's where the hardware is at now a big flex for him as far as I could tell was the NPU more I don't I don't feel personally like he really made this thing as a gaming machine And not every device that you have has to be a gaming machine. He's got that NPU in there He can do some AI stuff with it. That's cool It's it's highly functional a lot of like what I use like my my work desktop My worst desktop just needs a functional CPU and some RAM. Like I'm in the browser all the time.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, but does it play Crysis? Oh, this is so cool. Second discussion question. Should we throw some money behind a V2? At the end we're listed as one of the inspirations for the project. That's sick. I mean, sure. He did shout out the NAS in the project. That's sick. I mean, sure.
Starting point is 00:15:25 He did shout out the NAS in the video. That's so cool. Yeah, no, I mean. When he talked about the song. Yeah, Dan, do you mind just throwing a... We don't know if he wants that. Yeah, oh yeah, we have absolutely no idea. And he might not even wanna do a V2.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I mean, he's clearly... Might be moving on to something else. Clearly a super talented kid. I'm sure he could figure out something else cool to create. But like, I would absolutely be down to do like a small sponsorship. I mean, even if he's just like, yeah, could I just like get a ModMad and get a bunch of like LTT
Starting point is 00:15:57 gear or like, you know, whatever else or, you know, dude, I'd, yeah, sure, cool. This is awesome. I'm pretty sure I commented on the video It's like this is this is the type of stuff that I really like finding on YouTube Yeah, like this is this is the the like little rewarding nugget that YouTube's like you watch a bunch of garbage that I sent you Here's a here's the thing that you want now. I Really? Hope he keeps making content of some kind or just keeps cool stuff. Like if someone like an Apple or a Dell or Framework.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Dude, somebody's got to pick this guy up. If somebody picks this guy up, then I just, I want to see him create something amazing. Dan, if you could just fire it over to, I think Sean C is handling like sponsorships and stuff like that. So just fire that over there that I consider it green lit for us to, you know, do something
Starting point is 00:16:48 if he wants to do something. So cool though. Yeah. I think, you know, the video, especially cause it's his second video, I think. Video was hosted really well. I think he has creator chops. He could go that route or yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:01 if like a framework or someone else wants to pick him up, this dude's gonna kill it. What do you wanna talk about next? My next one was the GPU stuff, man. Really? Oh, okay, sure. We can jump into something else. You haven't talked about GPUs enough this week?
Starting point is 00:17:19 It was a pretty exciting week. That 5090 review was thick. Yeah. Like it's, I think it's 22 or... Yeah, the lab team killed it. 22 or 23 minutes long or something like that. And not a dull moment at all. Like, I was doing script review with Adam. I ended up reviewing probably about 80% of the script before I went in for my procedure. And then they finished up the rest when I was in the Twilight Zone. And I was going through it with them. I'm like, good Lord, dude. Like a lot of the time, my job
Starting point is 00:17:52 as an editor is to cut. Just cut, cut, cut. Keep it focused. I mean, I talked about this at length on the Colin and Samir podcast, but like, what is our point? Don't waste the audience's time. Like, all of these things are so important to the way that we create Content and the way that we communicate our message whether it's you know, is this GPU any good or you know? How do you how do you scrapyard war together yourself like a cheap gaming PC? The 69 dollar gaming PC is making a return nice and it's better than ever Pretty exciting anyway, you're right now? We were shooting that. Interesting. Yeah, anyway. The point is that that's my job,
Starting point is 00:18:29 is to go through and edit down for clarity, for conciseness. I think I ended up adding word count because I was just like, oh my goodness, this is dense. There is so much here and I applaud anyone in the audience who managed to make it through the whole video because the thing is there's a ton of nuance in it and there's a ton like it's a I watched it back Twice actually once to review it for release and then that was it like I Want to say like three in the morning or something like that? So I like I got the call and I'm like, oh yeah, I had my laptop next to my bed because I knew it was coming. I'm like, okay. Yeah, here's a couple notes.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And then and then once again, I was in my right state of mind and and what I noticed about it was good. Lord was the cognitive load of watching that video. Yeah. Hi. Yeah. Because you have to not only just like kind of listen to us say, yeah, this is good. You had to listen to our opinion about whether something was good or bad or somewhere in between. And then you had to listen to the nuance and the explanation for why that opinion is not black and white. Because, I mean, we talked about this a little bit, I think, last week, you know, fake frames versus real frames,
Starting point is 00:19:46 that whole conversation. It's complicated, man. I think it was before that, but yeah, yeah. It's complicated, man. It's not as simple as like, high FPS number, more better, more gooder, or low, more worser. Like, we had that one chart,
Starting point is 00:20:03 that kind of, we like, we kind of like drop. It It's almost like this like we put this chart on the table that all of a sudden has a 4x Multi-frame gen on the same chart with the regular 59 was nuts and one of the things that in my In spite of being not in a very good state of mind because it was in the middle of the morning One of the things that I noticed I was like dude, dude, we've got to highlight more, that this is MFG, and that's kind of our point, is that this is clearly ludicrous and not comparable to everything else that's here. And so it's just, it's one of those videos that I really enjoyed. It made me think and understand even though Like I'm kind of having to put myself back into if I hadn't already script reviewed and looked at in videos materials and all
Starting point is 00:20:51 Those things but it made me think and it made me understand better and I thought The thing that stood out to me the best was what an incredible job the team did in spite of my relatively minimal involvement I did review most of the script. I did work on titling, intro angle. I obviously hosted little bits of it, including, by the way, I have zero recollection. Bunches bought that. Really? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Absolutely nothing. We have an exclusive on Float Plane, like a behind the scenes of me having my procedure done, which I guess we can talk about a little bit more later. But watching this back is wild, dude, because I'm just like, I haven't seen it yet. You know, I don't drink and I don't drugs. So I don't have any experience of watching myself do something that I have absolutely like, I've definitely watched myself do stuff I don't remember because it's a video from 17 years ago or whatever, but it's different.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's like watching myself do something that I don't recall, but yeah, that seems plausible enough. Whereas here, I'm behaving in a way that is just, it's me, but it's like, it's loopy me. Anyway. Interesting. Yeah, I was watching it back. I was telling Yvonne man I'm pretty funny when I'm high Anywho, oh man the um did she appreciate the humor?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah, I mean she was trying to wrangle me and also make a video and like keep me safe So I think she was a little stressed, but I think after the fact maybe keep me safe so I think she was a little stressed but I think after the fact maybe. Anyway what I was going to say was what an incredible job the team did putting that together that man that makes this place feel less like Linus and more like Media Group. Yeah I had a weird in watching it and I don't know if this is going to land with everybody, but it landed with me for whatever reason. In watching it, it felt, man, I don't want to pay fan service to this idea. Not in quality, it felt incredibly higher in quality to be very clear, but it felt old LTT-ish because you intro it and then we went to people that were specializing in that at the time. Yep. Because that's what we used to do.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yep. For GPU videos, when I first started hosting GPU videos, I did not solo host the video. Linus would intro it and talk about the features, and then I would jump in and talk about the benchmarks. Talk about the benchmarks. That's how we started. So jumping in and having it go like, like Dan, for instance, talking about the AI part, because Dan does AI things. And like all the, like David talking about the DLSS stuff because he just made a video on Force DLSS in Indiana Jones. Like all these things are just like,
Starting point is 00:23:32 wow, this is really cool. This is what the vision has always supposed to be. Dude, Oliver killed it. Killed it. Like, I got to that section, I was just like, wow, this is really pro. He absolutely killed it. Yeah Man, I I don't know. I I am having a proud dad moment. This was this was this was very cool for real
Starting point is 00:23:57 This was really and and it's one of those things where I sent this message internally already Um, so i'm not saying anything that any staff won't have seen already, or if they didn't see it, then I'm glad you're seeing it here. But what I said was like, this is the vision. This is what this company is supposed to do when absolutely everything is firing on all cylinders. Yeah, and I will, I'm going to step in and Linus kind of said my line in the intro, but there was, there was errors with it. Most of them were pretty minor. There was one that really kind of sucked. We're working on fixing them and they're pinned in the comments. And we've never claimed
Starting point is 00:24:32 the video was fantastic. And we're going to have some amount of problems. Yeah, we've never claimed to be perfect, but what we will do is we will keep doing better. We will keep working hard, we'll keep doing better. The error rate will not be zero. We're going to have some amount of problems until the end of our time, but that's just, you know, we'll keep doing better. And the error rate will not be zero. We're gonna have some of the problems till the end of our time. But that's just, you know, we'll keep working on improving. That is what it is. Super cool. I'm very happy with it.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm very excited. We managed to pivot the discussion to GPUs and not actually talk about the GPU at all. Instead, we just patted ourselves on the back for six minutes. So do you wanna talk about the GPU at all? What's in these notes here? The 5090 reviews are out.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I watched a bunch of them. Super interesting. Just like I expected, a lot of people took different angles with it, tested different things. This is a generation that I'm going to say again, go watch other people's reviews, go read other people's reviews, go do whatever, right? It's very interesting. The whole story is not out there, even with all the reviews that are
Starting point is 00:25:27 out there, in my opinion. I think this is going to evolve and show its head more over time as these different technologies are used more, as we're able to see it in more scenarios, stuff like that. I also think as the continuation of card embargoes come, we'll learn more and more. But yeah, it's super interesting. Reviewing GPUs is changing significantly because of all these, you know, AI software features and everything else. But anyways, AMD RX 9070 is delayed. It is apparently releasing or launching March 2nd the company cites software optimization for FSR for as the two reasons oh Good old brain the company cites software optimization and FSR for as the two reasons why it
Starting point is 00:26:16 Most likely decided to delay the launch of our DNA for did you see some of the ad campaigns that went live? like in non North American regions that Did you see some of the ad campaigns that went live? Like in non-North American regions that were like, no, Radio 97E, let's go. That's rough. Yeah, I mean, honestly though, this is one of those things where it would be really easy for us to dogpile on them and go like,
Starting point is 00:26:36 oh, AMD software not ready, AMD this, AMD that, but like, good. Let them cook. Yeah. Yeah. Like some of the leaks that I've seen seem to indicate that this is going to be a really valid card. Like it might not be, it might not appease every possible buyer at every price tier, but it looks like it will be hopefully a really valid option. And if that's the case, then let them cook. Yeah. Get it done. Yeah. And then when it's done, let's have a look at it.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And hopefully it's awesome. I support the delay for sure. Yeah, because I mean, here's the thing. Like I'm rooting for everybody in the GPU space. I'm rooting for Intel, obviously, who's been bringing it at the low end. I'm rooting for AMD, who has been the only force, even remotely sort of keeping Nvidia honest.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And I'm rooting for Nvidia too. Because I want better GPUs and you need that competition. I don't want anyone to be in a completely dominant position because that's bad for the whole industry and it's bad for the consumer. So this is exciting. I will also say in support of them delaying, What I heard from the team all week was that the driver in the car and everything felt very stable. So it wasn't a problem, which I appreciate that. AMD's vice president and general manager of the Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics division explains more in this tweet.
Starting point is 00:28:06 This one. I really appreciate the excitement for RDNA 4. We're focused on ensuring we deliver a great set of products with the Radeon 9000 series. We're taking a little extra time to optimize the software stack for maximum performance and enable more FSR 4 titles. We also have a wide range of partners
Starting point is 00:28:22 launching Radeon 9000 series cards. And while some have started building initial inventory at retailers, you should expect many more partner cards available at launch. And then there's some indication that late January was the initial plan for the RX 9000 series launch. It's possible that AMD might also have wanted to see how Nvidia's RTX 5070 Ti will fare when it hits the market in February. Now back to Nvidia. Nvidia removed the hotspot sensor for the 5090s.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Video cards reported on this and Der Bauer spoke about the issue in a recent video and reached out to Nvidia for comment. Nvidia first told him that the new RTX 5000 series GPUs now report memory temperatures instead, but this was already possible with earlier cards, including the RTX 4090 and RTX 3090. Yeah, I thought that basically happened once we got temp probes in the memory chips. I think so as well. Okay. After further probing, they reportedly told him that API changes mean that the hotspot temperature is no longer accurate or relevant for gamers, but didn't go into further detail. This is something I really don't like.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I mean, it's one thing if they, you know, want to put a disclaimer on it or something like that, but clearly Nvidia saw fit to put that sensor in the chip at some point and as someone who has personally relied on hotspot to diagnose issues in the past, I really don't like this. I shouldn't say all, I mean technically the 8800 GTX had an IHS on it, but functionally speaking, all GPUs are bare die chips. And if you have even the slightest mounting error, they can not only run a little hot or not perform properly or whatever, but they can cook themselves. And like if there's an area where there's like an air gap, which will act as an insulator. And so when you have the hotspot temp, it tends to be, from my experience, a little bit more sensitive to a slight mismount.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And it can make it, and if you see a huge disparity between the dye temp and the hotspot temp, it can indicate a mounting issue. So you can kind of quickly get the card pulled off, get the cooler remounted and then get back to it. I don't have a lot of experience because I was out of the testing game for all the generations that had hotspot sensors.
Starting point is 00:30:55 But they seemed cool. I don't know what this comment is necessarily about but I'm going to just go for it. First the 5090 die size itself is huge. So the temperature you'll see reported by tools such as GPU-Z will be an average across the die, meaning the temperature recorded won't be the same across the entire surface. It's just the average. Moving on, Nvidia shows off a weird prototype, Titan design which some people have been calling a 5090 Ti With PCB on the oh that no yeah 5090 Ti
Starting point is 00:31:31 I thought this no this was rumored to be more of like there's a different rumor about a 5090 Ti that I saw I saw yeah, no this was a 40 series slash Titan prototype, okay, so yeah This is not what I thought we talked about this on WAN show, but I just want to say This is pretty cool This leaked like ages ago and was the first indication that we saw that at least to my knowledge It was the first indication. It's it's one of the first indications that we saw that Nvidia was considering an And one of the first indications that we saw that Nvidia was considering an unconventional PCB design for an upcoming card, and this was rumored to be like a 4090 Ti or like a 40 series Titan card of some sort, and yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So it put a vertical PCB in it so that it could make much, much more effective use of the shape of the GPU to blow air up This way okay, so they're blowing air up this way I mean the idea is is pretty simple right if you're if you've got a flat thing and you're blowing air against it You are effectively working against your own cooling fans And you can do things like you can you can angle what you're blowing against so it kind of goes this way and you can lift the heat sink stack off of the PCB so it can kind of make its way out and through and around. But at the end of the day, you're blowing air into a flat surface which is going to significantly harm your ability to cool your
Starting point is 00:33:02 fin stack. So this seemed like a really cool way to tackle that by putting the heat sink significantly harm your ability to cool your FinStack. So this seemed like a really cool way to tackle that by putting the card on a little daughter PCB and then you can see here the frame for where the cooler is just kind of blowing through it like that and then using some combination of heat pipes or vapor chambers to move all the heat out into the FinStack. When this first leaked, it was like, whoa, that would be super, super cool, I guess, but like, good lord, our GPU's really gonna go to four slots thick?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah. And it seems like Nvidia did the same introspection. Yeah, but the other way, kinda. Could there possibly, I mean, if we're gonna do this daughterboard thing anyway Could there possibly be another way and loading in the middle was a wild move and very cool The answer is yes, and I think it's so cool I don't know why the 5090 surprised me so much because if you go back to some of their older designs
Starting point is 00:33:59 Especially their dual GPU designs like do you remember the 7950GX2? I mean, yeah. This thing, this thing was flipping wild. Look at this thing. Here we go. Let's pull up some, let's pull up some images. Look at this thing. This thing's cray cray. So it's got the main PCB here that plugs into your PCIe slot. And then it's got a built-in SLI bridge, which if I recall correctly is like back here somewhere. And then it's got a second 7000 series GPU on here. And then you can actually, it has an SLI finger still, so you can run quad SLI with two of these. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:34:37 At least you could have. That's crazy. I never realized that. Yeah, that thing was freaking wild. I knew it was, it was too sandwiched. I didn't realize you could, I mean it makes sense, but I didn't realize you could just buy two of those and have four okay Dalxie here brings up a really interesting conversation that I'd love to pivot to if we kind of think we're done talking about The cool yeah, anyway essentially the conclusion is this generation is wild go watch everybody's video if you have time
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, cool, so Dalxie asks at Luke at Linus, can we bring back SLI for the 5090? Lol. Okay, here is a wild take that I'm sure is gonna get clipped out of context and get me cancelled. Not again. The 5090, for Nvidia's most affluent gaming customers, the 5090 is a great value. Here, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. Think of the 5090. I mean, there's no process node shrink, right? So you could kind of think of it as 40 generation with some extra stuff bolted onto it. And if you think about it that way, well, for the people that are like, yo, bring back SLI,
Starting point is 00:35:54 what are you better off with? A second 4090 or a 5090? If all you're gonna get is about 30% more performance, wouldn't you rather have it for another 400 bucks compared to another $1,600? All right, I don't even think I need to misquote you to get you cancelled for that. I'm leaving, have a good night guys. Yeah, have a good one Dan. Bye! I'll give you a reference. Anyway, but kind of back to serious. reference anyway but but kind of back to back to serious for associated for the people out there that were buying you know 239 DTI's which was the last card that supported SLI or going even further back for the people that were buying you know 220 DTI's or you know to two Titan blacks or whatever in SLI honestly I think I would I think I'd rather have a slightly bigger monolithic GPU that consistently gets me better performance than one that will
Starting point is 00:36:48 Occasionally nearly double my performance and more often than not More often than not run at the same performance for double the power consumption and microstutter all over the place I guess what I'm trying to say is no SLI isn't coming back and That's probably an okay or even good thing. Put more transistors on this chip. But with that said, it's not that Nvidia has completely abandoned high-speed interconnects between their GPUs. Like if anything, NV72, like their data center stuff, is doubling, tripling, quadrupling
Starting point is 00:37:21 down on what they started with SLI. It's just that now, in order to build that high-speed connectivity into the GPU, in order to have it operate fast enough that those GPUs can act as one, it takes up so much die area and is so, therefore, expensive that it makes no sense to build it into every single consumer, knowing that only a tiny fraction of the people who Luke just mocked for being willing to spend that much more for a slight performance gain. Well, no, it does depend.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I think it was said well in our video, right? If you're using money to make this thing, then sure. No, no, no, no, I was talking about the SLI argument. The same people who would go and spend double for that, yeah, I'd much rather they go and spend a little bit more for 50, 90, 100%, 100%. So for those small handful of people that are wild enough to go and do that, yeah, I'd rather they have a 50, 90.
Starting point is 00:38:18 This is probably what they're buying anyways. And for everyone else, yeah, honestly, I think I would rather Nvidia doesn't just make the thing more expensive. And it sucks, right? But the reason SLI worked was because with the old interconnects and the old bridges, they weren't that high speed.
Starting point is 00:38:34 The cost wasn't that high. But as resolutions of our monitors went up, as the amount of data flowing between the GPUs increased astonishingly. It just couldn't keep up. It just couldn't do it without the cost not making any sense anymore. So that's my, that's my conclusion. No SLI is gone. And the 5090 for those folks that would have bought SLI, I stand by this way better
Starting point is 00:39:00 value. Uh, AJ, not already AJ, but yeah, flow plane. Yeah. Anyways, uh, said instead of of SLI I would rather see the ability to split a single card across multiple users either in VM environment or multi-user game PC. Me too. That's- Isn't there that thing? No, it's totally a thing. GPU virtualization is 100% a thing. What's the name of- there's a particular piece
Starting point is 00:39:21 of software. Oh, I know the one, that the something hot seat something I can't remember There's a piece of software that allows you to do it. We haven't really played around with it too much. Yeah. Yeah. There's a People are saying someone had it at Tx yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's a thing. We Okay, I don't want to give away too much, but we might have a new multi-gamers kind of thing coming, and maybe as part of exploring that again and kind of seeing what the state of things is, we could explore that as well. I think that'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But yes, there is some really cool slicing stuff, even though Nvidia doesn't officially support it on their consumer cards. That was something that I actually chased Intel about a lot back in the lead up to the release of ARK Alchemist, the original ARK DGPUs, was like, hey, if you guys made this available to consumers, I'd really appreciate that, not because I necessarily think the A770
Starting point is 00:40:20 is gonna be powerful enough that anyone would really wanna split it to two gamers running off of the same GPU, but because I would love to see some pressure on the incumbents to just make this feature freaking accessible because there is so much that consumers can do with CPU virtualization. And I would love to see the same kind of
Starting point is 00:40:42 innovative use cases be possible with GPU virtualization, especially now that they can do so much other than just push FPS in Counter-Strike or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, in conclusion, Dan, yeah, 100% it's a thing, and no, Nvidia has absolutely no intention, as far as I can tell, of making it accessible on their consumer facing cards a bunch people have said different names of software solutions in philip linchard
Starting point is 00:41:11 I don't remember which one and I don't know anything about it. Really. I just remember it was in that video Astro multi-seat that's the one. Oh Tim in chat says I was the guy at the land. It's Astro multi-seat. Okay Yeah, so I was remembering him and his computer Did you die? Oh my goodness F Yeah, everyone now. Let's go pay respects Dan kicks it off. Love it. Love it taking advantage of his lack of stream delay this guy this guy winning internet points Like that that's dirty pool, sir.
Starting point is 00:41:47 All right, what's next, Mr. Dan? I would never be able to tell if the stream went down. Yeah, well that's, yeah. No, we have a, we have a thing for that. Oh, okay, cool. Is it named Dan? No. I guess Merch Messages.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Okay, well, why don't we explain what a Merch Message is? Merch Messages are the way to interact with the show. Just like Ryan A, you can head over to lttstore.com and instead of throwing your money at the screen to send a message into the show, you can throw your money at LTT Store. In the cart, there will be a little box that will leave you a spot to type up a Merch message.
Starting point is 00:42:22 A Merch message, it'll go to producer Dan, who will reply to it, or will forward it to someone internally who can help you out, like say for example, apparently Sammy, or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to on the show. And we've got a few probably pretty interesting things for the MerchMessage inclined to check out today.
Starting point is 00:42:42 We are delaying the launch of the MonMap for now. We'll update you guys as soon as we have further information, but we do have some other new stuff. We're launching four new Labs branded items, including a zip-up hoodie, T-shirt, hat. Oh, I did not resize the hat. Way to go Linus, way to be ready for your own show. Fantastic. Hat
Starting point is 00:43:06 and a lanyard that showed that sometimes simple is best. We don't have any data to back up that claim. You will just have to take our word for it. I blame Artie. Artie wrote that. I just read the thing off of the thing. Go f*** yourself San Diego. Okay. The zip-up hoodie and the t-shirt are simply black with a Labs tag. No flashy logos or outlandish designs, just quality cozy materials. The hat features an embroidered Labs heatsink logo and There it is, a little something like that. Oh man, and your head will feature Hat Head after you take it off. And the lanyard is inspired by the Labs phase collection that we released a few months ago,
Starting point is 00:43:46 with a sleek but colorful design. I really like the Phase stuff. Do you have the lanyard here? Uh, should be... oh. Well, it's on the site. Do you want to pull up the site? Sure. In the meantime, I have another update for you guys.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Seven months ago, we promised that if you got a hundred thousand likes on the CEO PC build video Which is here? That we would actually make this stupid poster. Oh No, oh no, they did it. Oh, no, why do they keep doing it? I don't know they did it for the Rivian. I know they They did it for this thing. I know. It's almost like here Just hear me out here It's almost like our community might be a bunch of stone cold memers That I know I know this is again my second controversial take so far
Starting point is 00:44:42 Gonna get me canceled again second one. I feel like we gotta be above that second one. I think they might be stone-cold memers anyway You can get it now at LMG GG slash hope it is available in a small art print or a larger print-to-order poster If I get one of these and I put it behind my desk it'll just make him like super embarrassed. Yeah see this this right here really like we could put them over all of the windows. I'm messaging Artie. Don't do that just because it's a it's a that sounds expensive and wasteful anyway so that's a thing is the art print in stock I actually don't know there's like a
Starting point is 00:45:30 little small one you can get yeah yeah the small one is probably the way that most people are gonna want to go see that's the that's the thing I think hold on yes yes the small one is not back ordered but the large one is a is like a like a pre-order it It's a print to order. So I like the they do the size reference. They show the small one amongst other things on like the grid. That's cool. Okay, the last LTT store thing, I'll get this out of the way really quick.
Starting point is 00:45:55 In response to this comment from last week, please sell the carabiners like the replacement zipper pulls as a standalone product. There's so many I want to replace. I forgot why we said we wouldn't do it. We said we were never going to do that because deforming the zipper pull to change the carabiner can damage the pull and may cause it to break, especially on low-grade zippers. It is even a risk with YKK. We don't want to be accountable for zippers breaking on a variety of random products. We are only covering breakage that happens on our own bags because of the failure of the original carabiner zipper pulls. We could technically sell them with a massive
Starting point is 00:46:27 disclaimer that it could break, but, and this is Nick Light from Crita Warehouse, I think that's a massive risk and sets a horrible precedent. And I think that's right. We should create products that we can stand behind being used in a way that we can realistically anticipate that users are going to use them. Okay. Jan, hit me. Sure thing. Hi, DLL. I'm soon leaving behind a decade-long tech career on my own terms. What hobbies or special interests would you recommend to somebody who still wants to keep their feet wet in the tech world? Home lab.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I mean, that's not keep your feet wet. That's keep your feet in the ocean. Drenched. I mean, that's that's not keep your feet wet. That's keep your feet. Well, I'm the ocean drenched I Mean, yeah, I think I think that's totally valid. I mean, the loves are sick I want to get a cut my apartment too small not enough space. You know what I I'm going to I have plants. I need to finish painting my stupid bike But like I I think I think painting stupid cool stupid cool. Yes yes what's gonna happen first I had the bike or Final Fantasy 6 bike I will beat you yeah yeah there's no way I know how far you are and I know how kind of broken the balance is in the pixel remaster so good luck that makes it
Starting point is 00:47:39 harder I in my opinion I have I have some strong opinions about the place that made it easier. Yeah, well it depends. Like if you just use cheats then yes, it's much easier. Oh, I haven't cheated. But if you try to play... I haven't cheated and I haven't wiped yet. Yeah, if you try to play properly, then yeah, it could be challenging.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Boy howdy, it's gotten close. I think in pushing to not wipe, I've probably done bad things with my economy. Could be. It might not matter. Spent money on potions and stuff. It shouldn't matter. Okay. In pushing to not wipe, I've probably done bad things with my economy. Could be, it might not matter. Spent money on potions and stuff. Shouldn't matter. Okay. Yeah. But anywho, anywho.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Yeah, painting is super cool. You should wipe, oh my God. You know, no, not that. He means be annihilated. Anyway, I kind of want to, Me after Chipotle. Me trying to keep the show on track. Good lord, you guys.
Starting point is 00:48:28 This guy, this guy. What do people even tune into this thing for? I don't know anymore. Monkey circus. Sorry, that just caught me off guard. So I want to get into casting. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 What? Yeah. Like, I did a class once in high school, and it was super fun and super cool. Oh. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm taking up pornography. That's going to be my new career. What?
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's not what I thought. Oh, okay. Well, what did you think I new career. What? That's not what I thought. Oh, okay, well, what did you think I was like? You said casting. I thought you meant like game casting. No, not that. Okay, casting looks like- Why would pornography be the next option?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Linus, don't answer that. My client has no understanding of what that means. Perfect. I was like, this is such a weird change. Metal casting. What are you even gonna cast, like, No understanding of what that means Perfect Casting okay, okay. Yeah, so anyway, that's sweet though Yeah, I took a class in high school metal art and jewelry and I had a lot of fun with it and I'm I'm at a Duh Good lord and anyway
Starting point is 00:49:44 You know what I give up I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna tryuh. Good lord. And anyway... Why would I have gone there? You know what? I give up. I'm not even gonna try. You go ahead. You do the show. You want to get a word in Edgewise? I have all the words. Oh man. Okay, sorry. Anyways, casting, metal casting. I've seen a bunch of people have relatively solid-looking home setups for that. There, casting, metal casting. I've seen a bunch of people have relatively solid looking home setups for that. There's cool things you can do. Yeah, yeah. And so, I don't know, it just, it looks like a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It looks very, it looks very, or no, I shouldn't say, I shouldn't say it looks, because I have done it before. It can be very cathartic, like taking something from like a rough cast piece to seeing the finished product. Have you seen the earrings that Yvonne and I made? I believe so. Yeah, so we didn't actually do the casting for those. We just carved the lost wax, like casting wax things.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And then they did the casting for us and then we did all the finishing and polishing and everything and that was super fun. And so yeah, I'm just kind of looking at it going, yeah, that would be really fun. I need to get my stupid motorcycle finish painted. I'm so stressed about it though. I did a, I actually have made progress. I did, I've primed almost everything now. And I think what I've discovered is that because I'm using like a candy, like a translucent coating on motorcycle parts, which are so multi-surfaced and multifaceted that I basically took the difficulty level to 100 out of the gate and I'm probably
Starting point is 00:51:12 just doomed and I think what I might need to do is either change my base coat color to something that can be a solid with just a clear coat on it and I don't have to worry about getting the layering perfectly, perfectly even because I could do the hood of a car today. No problem. I could do that. But when you're working with a piece that has all these different surfaces and angles and divots and everything, getting it perfectly covered is really, really, really, really, really difficult.
Starting point is 00:51:44 So maybe I should just find, maybe I should just find something else. Or if I fail again, then maybe I'll just drop off all the parts and get them painted. But that would feel like giving up, because it would be. Do you guys drink pop, like cans, cans?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Specifically cans of pop? Complicated answer. I like cans of soda pop. And I often have them in my house. So my easiest way to control my urges is to just not have the temptation nearby. So for like years and years, we just wouldn't have any soda in the house.
Starting point is 00:52:14 But because we entertain so much more now that we're moved into the bigger place and now that we do like work functions and like badminton friends functions. Yeah, because I knew at work functions you had them. Like that was our whole thing is like why would we need a place this big if we're not gonna like bring everybody over and like hang out in the pool and stuff. We call it pop up here whatever, soda.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Doesn't matter, everyone relax. Leave it alone. Relax, we're all gonna be the same country soon anyway. My point was cause because I believe... Oh, I was... Sure, fine. No, sorry, go for it. I thought you were done.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Wasn't done. Go for it. The point is, we have soda pop in our house. Soda pop coke. Because we entertain now, and I found myself drinking it again. Okay. So I would just have a craving, and it's in the house, and I'm like... And so I started drinking it again, and the quickest way for me to put on a spare tire
Starting point is 00:53:07 is to start drinking soda regularly. Oh, yeah. And so what I did was I tried this boobly, bubbly thing. They're fucking awful. They're terrible. They're like the worst. It's the worst balance between seltzer water and soda. It's the worst balance between like seltzer water and soda. It's the worst of both worlds.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Memories of cherry. But. We dipped a cherry in the water. We waved it around near a bottle of soda. Specter of lime. But I drank one and I like had opened it. And you know what a cheapskate I am. If I have it and I start it, I'll finish it.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Oh, you might as well. Yeah, might as well. I mean, I paid for it, so I might as well drink it. And what I realized was I could make myself, when I go to the fridge, I could make myself take that instead. And that's the way that I'm conditioning myself to not even bother at all. And then you don't like it. So I stock bubbly in my fridge and I'll drink probably a solid like three or four a week. And it's just like having it there as an alternative makes me not drink soda.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So in response to your question, I keep soda in the house, I enjoy soda. 95 to 98% of the time that I'm craving a soda, I grab a bubbly and I choke it down to punish myself for wanting a soda. I'm fairly certain I've seen people build like aluminum. Yes, it's my methadone. Soda pop, Coke, Dr. Pepper can, crucibles, where they have like a plunger and they put the can in, they plunge it down into the crucible, and they use the cans of pop as their material for their casting. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And I thought you might like that because it's like a way to reuse, right? So yes, you can effectively recycle aluminum cans, but you're now directly doing it, which is pretty cool. So maybe like if you were going to involve the kids in this project and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Dalxy and full planchette said I built one they're awesome. Yeah, so this I'm pretty sure this is the thing you can do. Super cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I'm kind of more interested in making like jewelry though. So we'll see. Yeah, fair enough. I got one more for you. Hit us Dan. I got a screwdriver in the initial wave and it has a question. Nice gloss smooth finish. However, I noticed that my second one is more matte finish. Was this a material change or a nice patina from constant use? The truth is I do not 100% know the answer to that. I can give you my best guess. One, yes it does gloss out over time. Two, while we have not changed our molds for the OG screwdriver, molds do not stay exactly the same over time.
Starting point is 00:55:53 They wear. We did buy extremely high quality molds from Innovation Tool and Die, Innovation or Innovative, whatever, ITD. We bought extremely high quality molds that should last for like a million plus parts is my understanding, but that doesn't mean that they don't change a little bit. So both, possibly, but probably we didn't change something like the surface finish.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Oh, sure, more topics. What do you want to talk about, Luke? Should we talk about the gaslighty, rambling, ridiculous, full of misdirection response to our video from Aerostek? From AyersTech? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh It's amazing you like having an out-of-body experience for me You haven't punched me yet The intro to this video this face look how punchable it is what I was gonna say though the intro to this video was gold Full credit it was so good full credit to Alex Clark. Yeah, I was like it was actually amazing. I was like really dude Are you sure oh absolutely really it was very good And then he he kind of pitched it through I walked on to the set and I was like
Starting point is 00:57:38 Because I've done a lot of kind of embarrassing stuff on camera, but dawning that get up sitting in the incense, and he was sitting there with, dude, the outtakes of this are so funny because I think you know I don't do accents very well. At my best. I will shift between accents like the sands of the desert. I can't maintain them. I don't actually have any training.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I don't actually practice it. So what Alex was doing was he was sitting there on set kind of directing and then he just had a random interview of Russell Brand and he would just play a clip and then he'd turn it off and then I would try to deliver the next little bit of the line kind of trying to mimic it. Dan, were you on set? For that? No. Yeah, okay. Okay. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Oh no, I know who it was. It was Andrew who was on set. And the reason that I wasn't sure is it was someone it was someone from the British Isles that was on set. And then we were talking about my atrocious accent. So Andrew, Andrew is Irish and Having to see his face Sitting there So disappointed at whatever it was that was coming out of my mouth. That was hard
Starting point is 00:58:59 That was hard That intro was so freaking funny though. I Nose hard. That intro was so freaking funny though. I saw the- It was a lot of fun to shoot. I saw, I think, does it allude to the intro in the thumbnail? Like can you, are you in that get up in the thumbnail? Ah, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I think we left it in the thumbnail. A little bit. I know, no, I noticed in the thumbnail- Hold on, can we go to your laptop? Yeah, I noticed in the thumbnail that your shirt is like- Oh, yeah. Very wide and very low. I think that's photoshopped. What's going on? And I clicked on it and then low. I think that's Photoshopped.
Starting point is 00:59:25 What's going on? And I clicked on it and then it, couldn't stop watching the intro. Okay, we'll show it, we'll show it. The incense too, at first I was like, did they like add that in in post? Nope, there's incense there burning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The whole set, everything's just, it's amazing. We have a world-class team. There's no doubt in my mind about that. Anywho. Oh, man. Let me see if I can, where's the, ah, yes, okay. So they actually, man, when you're down, sometimes it's better to just stay down, but they apparently decided- Yeah, they responded. Not to stay down. So they posted a blog post debunking Linus Tech Tips misconception about Ares devices good gravy man this is what is up with like people writing extremely
Starting point is 01:00:21 long responses. Oh man, the device does not block claim number one, the device does not block RF signals. So it's ineffective. I mean, it doesn't interact with them at all. That's Anyway, in short, no, wearing a special amulet does not make the 5G boogie man less scarier. And also Aries tech, this is embarrassing at this point. You're not going to win over anyone who has even a remotely functional understanding of how electromagnetic waves work. That's not happening. I don't realistically think that any of the people that you are ripping off with your scamulant are going to be deterred by like a proper explanation of why it obviously doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:01:27 So why are you even talking? Why are you even Streisand affecting our video? I really think this is just such an obvious tactical error. So anyway, here, I'll read through my notes instead of just talking about how this is ridiculous. Earlier this week, we posted a video on the AirsTech LifeTune and how it doesn't do anything that the company says it does. In response, they posted on their blog debunking our claims about the LifeTune. Nothing that we hadn't previously discussed in our video was brought up and there was
Starting point is 01:02:00 no new information because we had already reached out to them as part of our process for making our video. They do bring up their EEG testing as a way that they've proven the life-tune works, although we watched the video during research and the test seems to be fatally flawed and fully allows the test subjects to be swayed by the researchers. Did they measure a change? Yes, but in all likelihood this was a placebo and a placebo is a perfectly cromulent way to register a change in someone's behavior, even physiologically, yes.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah, exactly. Now, we could spend a bunch of time picking apart their arguments, but fortunately, Reddit saved us the trouble. Eagle Falcon, PhD in physical chemistry, JC Calhoun, and Alundra828 have all posted about this whole situ-mulation. Let's go. I think this is a pretty good summary, but, you know, hey, that's their word. That's their word, not mine. Alex, the writer's thoughts here, all I want is a simple, replicable test
Starting point is 01:03:06 to show that it does literally anything. Airstech, can you give us that? It is normal for companies to show us their internal testing to demonstrate how to independently test and verify their claims. Airstech didn't give us any of that and instead just threw technobabble at us. There is of course a chance that, Alex says, he just didn't understand it, but we were
Starting point is 01:03:28 able to figure out how the machines at ASML work, and this little amulet certainly isn't more complicated than an EUV machine. Yep. Agreed Alex. Absolutely toasted. Ah, what else do you want to talk about? We've got, we've actually got a fair bit today. There is many a thing. Oh, I want to talk about GTA 6.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Sorry, I'm going to hijack it. Yeah, no, let's do it. Let's talk about GTA 6. So the headline here is some game makers hope that Grand Theft Auto 6 will cost up to 100 US dollars at launch. And let's get through the whole thing. I'm going to blow through this pretty quick here, and then we can open it up to discussion. Industry analyst Michael Ball wrote in his State of Video Gaming in 2025 that some game makers hope GTA 6 will be priced at 80 to 100 US dollars, breaking the $70 barrier and helping $50 titles
Starting point is 01:04:25 move up to 60, $60 titles move to 70, 70 to 80, et cetera. He stated that game prices have never been lower in real terms than they are today. Larian's Michael Douse responded on Twitter saying, "'You're not supposed to say this out loud.'" That sounds like something he would say. Here's a graph of GTA prices corrected for inflation. In real terms, a $70 GTA 6 would be the cheapest ever GTA,
Starting point is 01:04:57 which is, uh, yeah. I mean, when you account for inflation, pretty interesting. Here's a graph of US prices for packaged video games. Do do do do do do do do shockingly shockingly flat. So this is nominal price. So this is what it says on the sticker. And then this one right here is the like adjusted for inflation version. So stands to reason that today one equals one. And in the past, one equals a lot more than one today. Redditors were quick to point out that simply adjusting for inflation doesn't tell the whole story and that is true. Inflation is so much more complicated than just price go up. Some things do not go up. Some things actually do go down. Physical media had real costs not just for materials but also for duplication, packaging, manuals, shipping, et cetera. Sticking with the SNES example,
Starting point is 01:05:46 we found an old pricing breakdown from Super Play Magazine. Oh, oh, super cool. Okay, here we go. Whoa. Breakdown of cost for your average game. 1% freight, 4% marketing, 1.7% duty, 4.6% developers royalty, 30% retailers margin. So that's where Valve got their number from,
Starting point is 01:06:08 15% tax, 33% Nintendo, and 15% publishers margin. Shockingly little going to the actual developer. I mean, I guess that shouldn't really shock us at this point in the games industry, but hey, there it is. So we know that from other sources, that about half of Nintendo's charge was manufacturing so about $10 of the $60 cartridge. Now the bar to entry is arguably lower these days, anyone can publish a game and there is no sort of shipping and all of that. But and sales are also
Starting point is 01:06:36 significantly higher. In 2020 Elden Ring sold 13 million copies in its first month of release. Back in 2002, excuse me, the year's bestseller GTA Vice City sold less than 6 million copies by the end of the year. The plain simple truth is there's a lot more gamers out there than there used to be. Publisher revenue is also massive. Here's just like a casual look at the kind of revenue that these companies are doing on boop-boop-boop-boop on gaming. Sony Interactive, Tencent, Microsoft Gaming. Revenue though. We'll get to it, we'll get to it. The list doesn't include private companies like Valve or Activision Blizzard who reported
Starting point is 01:07:16 $8.8 billion in revenue before Microsoft bought them for $68 billion. Okay. There's a lot to unpack. So with all that in mind, would it be a good thing if GTA 6 was priced at, let's say, $100, even though the original article from Michael Ball says $8200. Let's stick with $100 for the sake of, you know, following up our sensationalist headline regurgitation here. I don't suspect Rockstar exactly needs to do it. I think they are going to completely kill regardless. It might be good for other people in the industry.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I think the examples of like the SNES cartridge are not necessarily fair because we have been in a predominantly digital distribution environment for a long time now. Well, I think that's part of the point is that that is a big part of why we shouldn't have to pay for physical manufacturing and shipping that we don't have anymore. But I think you can make that argument for a certain period of time, but eventually that margin has eaten up. We've been in predominantly digital distribution for a very long time now.
Starting point is 01:08:21 It has not been a couple years. Not on the console side. Even consoles, I think have been very predominantly digital for a while. long time now. It has not been a couple years. Not on the console side. I would argue that- Even consoles, I think have been very predominantly digital for a while. This generation, yeah. Most people I know are downloading stuff. But PS4, I- ooh. Truthfully, I don't have the numbers. I don't know, yeah. I'd love to hear from you guys at Floatplane Chat. I mean, let us know, like- We're gonna have predominantly PC people, but... Yeah, that's fair enough, but like, man.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, I know 360 PS3 was the start. People are saying PS4 was pretty split. Yeah. Whereas like, I think it's pretty... Oh man, some of these folks, I mean, yeah, it makes sense that like our super connected audience... This 4k vote in 2013. Buddy here is like, I was 50% digital on the 360, which, you know, for our hyper connected
Starting point is 01:09:09 audience actually makes sense. Yeah, that might not be that representative. I had a 360, it was all physical. I'm pretty sure that normies have taken a fair bit longer to move digital. You think so? Especially with the inherent advantages of physical media on consoles. The fact that you can resell them is so huge. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah, but game stores are closing all over the place. Well, that I know. Because they can't say, and that's not new news. That's true. That's very true. Like it's been big enough impact for stores to close since pre-COVID. Well, I think what we can agree on is that we aren't sure.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Which is at least five years old. But we do know that digital distribution has been a huge thing for a lot longer than games have been stuck at around $60. Yeah, so I don't personally think that the reference back to the SNES cartridge is entirely fair. I think it was fair at a point in time. Sure. And then game prices didn't change at all for like over a decade. Right. So then it stops really being fair in my opinion. I think also like some people are pointing out
Starting point is 01:10:12 like there's way more sales now. It's like, yeah, okay. But if you look at the development teams at these companies, on average, I'd say they are way bigger now, like way bigger. Yeah. The amount of work that is going into making some of these games is incredibly immense. So I think that's another kind of yin yang situation. Can I throw in a pitch here? Would you support the move to 100 US dollars
Starting point is 01:10:41 if it meant, hold on. It's 140 right now, Canadian? If it meant that we could, as an industry, move away from so many, like. Microtransactions? Yes, absolutely. I would unquestionably agree with that. So if the excuse from the industry is that,
Starting point is 01:11:00 well, we had to do microtransactions because it was the only way to run our businesses sustainably with the stagnation of video game pricing. I don't believe that we'll take both. Yeah, I know that's where we're headed, but you couldn't allow me to imagine a blissful future. Dude, if they did it, I would genuinely be 100% be on board. I used to really really like doing kind of like more difficult things in game in order to earn you know some cosmetic or whatever yeah I really really liked that and then like you know trying to trying to get skins in cod by doing certain
Starting point is 01:11:41 things with that specific firearm it was. And then now you can buy cooler ones. And it's like, well, I don't know. It genuinely takes away from the game for me. So if you can put that back in, that has direct value for me. Oh, they won't. But they, yeah. I think we all know that's not gonna happen. I also think, as much as I honestly think a lot of this
Starting point is 01:12:04 can be justifiable in regards to price increase, but to a certain degree, I don't know how much it's gonna matter. Looking at the economy right now, I don't know that many Canadians, honestly, that can just drop 140 bucks. That was my next point, is that at the end of the day, they can theoretically raise the price to whatever they want,
Starting point is 01:12:23 but the price is gonna be whatever the market will bear. And as we've seen, especially on the PC side, where the promotions come so fast and they go so deep, it's going to end up, whatever it starts at, whatever MSRP is, unless you are Nintendo, unless you are Rockstar, unless you are one of these these triple-a developers or publishers You are you are not going to be able to draw a line in the sand and say oh no further You know this is it. This is our pricing. It's not gonna It's not gonna happen you're gonna you're gonna get whatever you're gonna get and you're gonna do your steam summer sale and you're gonna do this you're gonna do that and
Starting point is 01:13:03 I Just I just I don't see the I and you're gonna do your Steam summer sale and you're gonna do this you're gonna do that and I Just I just I don't see the I don't see it having a huge impact Because a $60 game already isn't $60 a $60 game is already, you know 3899 on Steam, you know Black Friday or winter sale or summer sale or two three weeks spring break sale or whatever. Some games hold out longer but it ends up being pretty quick. And so then that's exactly it. So we can have this new higher ceiling but basically I think what's just gonna happen is it's just gonna go down to the price the market will bear and that will
Starting point is 01:13:36 be that. Neither of us are claiming to really know anything about the actual economics behind this so like you know maybe that drop maybe most people have crazy FOMO and buy it right away. I'm just looking around in our environment and you know, if you know anything about it, the economic environment in Canada right now is dire. It's really rough. So it's not as, it's as far as my understanding goes, the economic environment in the states is genuinely not as bad. So if you're feeling it down there, it's really bad up here. And a lot of people that I know are just that are doing pretty well comparatively, genuinely, like people with really solid jobs up here are not going to be dropping $140 on a game. Well, it's compounded by the fact that our
Starting point is 01:14:22 currency is taking an absolute Yeah, but that's part of it, right beating right now. So anything that like is imported from well anywhere Effectively our purchasing power has just been Yeah, so like speaking as Canadians, which is the only thing I can realistically do this is Crushing for us to be honest like yeah, it wouldn't even, he's rounding. It would be more like $146 at a straight one-to-one conversion. It's one of those things where I will often see Canadians complaining about the pricing on our store. It's like, why is your Canadian pricing so bad?
Starting point is 01:14:58 Because our pricing is in US dollars. Our costs are in US dollars. Our markup is a certain amount above that, and then that's it. That's how much the product costs us, and that's what our markup is a certain amount above that, and then that's it, that's how much the product costs us, and that's what our markup is. So when it's so high in Canadian dollars, because the loonie is like in the toilet. And if I just did a one-to-one conversion
Starting point is 01:15:17 out of the goodness of my heart, we would be just losing money on every transaction on LTT store, that's not realistic, that's not viable. The Wiley in Fulpline Chat said, no, Luke should try speaking as a Spaniard. Jared Slauson Yeah, I'd like to hear that. Pete Slauson I have no idea. I'm assuming it's a joke, but even if it's not, I can't imagine what the economy is in all the places around the world.
Starting point is 01:15:39 We're just talking about Canada. If you want to see some insane graphs, just look up like cost of living versus income charts over time for Canadians. If you look at a macro trend graph, it won't look much better across most of North America. We're having a particularly acute with like housing, go with it right now. Yeah, it's rough and it's rough. It's rough everywhere as far as I know. I just know that it is particularly rough up here. Joyce says here in the UK, we're not doing much better than you guys.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Yeah. I've heard that too. I don't think a lot of people have the disposable income to jump up to this rate. That being said, in times of economic crisis, as far as my understanding goes, entertainment stays an expense for a lot of people. And gaming is still one of the best value per hour, dollar per hour things you can spend your money on. So I could just be totally wrong.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah, I mean, maybe people will cut out, they'll cut out travel, they'll cut out eating out, which we already know is happening too. When I was over it, when I was overseas, my newsfeed started to slant more like, British and Irish and all of that, right? And I read this just like devastating article and I forget the exact number, which makes me feel even worse because it's just it's disappearing and nobody even can be bothered to remember the rate
Starting point is 01:16:54 at which it's disappearing. But it pretty much was like talking about the rate at which Irish pubs are closing. And it's like terrifying, because what's going to replace it? What's going to replace the small independent dude? They're so unique with that character and that history. Yeah, nothing. Nothing like what a what a Tim fucking Hortons like honestly, I don't I don't talk about you don't drink. I don't drink but it's not of us are probably frequent but it's not just the it's not just from my understanding, it's not the drinking, it's- But it's a social thing. That's your-
Starting point is 01:17:29 They're genuinely cool places. Kind of your town square, you know, it's your place to go and- And they're often warm and genuinely pretty inviting. Yeah, it's a public house. Yeah, yeah. They're cool places. Yeah, exactly. There, thank you. That's a really good way of putting it. It's right in the name, Exactly, there, thank you. That's a really good way of putting it. It's right in the name, Public House, and they're just disappearing.
Starting point is 01:17:49 603 says, people don't socialize like they used to. The drop in the last 20 years of people gathering is astounding, and man, did COVID ever not help with that. Oh, no, not at all, yeah. Sure didn't help. I used to go out to eat with people, like all the time. That was like how I socialized. And now- And I honestly and now I honestly can't remember Yvonne and I asked him up Earls with you guys was the last time I ate. Oh, we went to Boston pizza. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:18:15 It wasn't a memorable dinner at all. I guess He knows why that's funny Anyway, I was maybe a little focused on other things, okay? I sort of forgot about the food. When Yvonne reached out to him to get some dinner with us, he was like, like immediate response, why? What's wrong? Yeah. And like that's partially on us for not spending time with our friends often enough apparently. Was that actually what I said? Something along those lines. It's partially on, you know, Luke for not, you know, just being in that mindset. And I think it's partially on just like all of us for just getting out of the habit of
Starting point is 01:18:56 just fucking spending time together. You know? Why are we, what's our excuse? At this point, I don't know. I think it's habit forming. It takes, what is it? It takes a month to form a habit. And COVID for a lot of people was a lot longer than that. So, yeah. No, he didn't get fired. And if he did, we'd do it somewhere much nicer than Boston Pizza.
Starting point is 01:19:18 You'd fire me at a nice location. We put him down real nice. Wow. It's so interesting. I need to like pay attention to where you invite me to go. Yeah, so if I like ever invite you to Gotham's or something, then no. Oh no, no. Nice last meal. No, I said, yeah sounds great with a big smiley. Okay, well it was right away. She got a vibe.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah, I did follow that up with a different message. Yeah. Being like, uh. So I stand behind, I did follow that up with a different message. Yeah. Being like, oh. So I stand behind, I stand behind the vibe representation. I definitely might, yeah. I get away with the first message excuse, but yeah. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, but yeah, it was a detectable vibe for sure.
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Starting point is 01:23:47 All right, let's oh do merch messages. Thank you, Producer Dan. Hit me. Sure. In the past, AMD and Nvidia competed across every price. Now each price point is segmented by a brand Intel low, AMD mid and Nvidia high. Does the consumer benefit from this, similar to how cars are? Well, the thing about the automotive space is that at every price point, there is competition. Like even if you're buying a $2 million hyper car, you could choose. You could shop with Pininfarina, you could shop,
Starting point is 01:24:19 I probably butchered the pronunciation, but don't worry about it. Yeah, what the heck is that? Ferrari, Lamborghini, you could shop with Ramac, you could like you've got you've actually got an entire smorgasbord of options for like ridiculous hypercars and then at the low end things are super competitive and are only going to get more competitive as China continues to export more inexpensive EVs. When you've got like three semi-monopolists
Starting point is 01:24:46 almost at each price band, I think the argument that you have competition gets a lot weaker. Now, Nvidia does compete across more than one price bracket. They do ultra high end, ultra, ultra high end, ultra, ultra, ultra high end, and I am a little bit below that. They also do high end and like mid high.
Starting point is 01:25:07 And then AMD is competitive. And I would say like the high end down to the mid range, especially if we go back and look at their sort of previous generation products that they used to fill the gap sometimes. Intel, meanwhile, yeah, low end only. Like low end, but gaming is what I would describe Intel as because low end used to mean like
Starting point is 01:25:25 $60 GPUs that are used as a display out. I mean the ARC B580 is still a $250 GPU like let's let's be real. This is a gaming card, but it's at the low end of the of the like legitimate modern current generation gaming cards No, I don't think the consumer benefits from this until we have more direct competition. At least not enough. Yeah. Hi, Linus. No other videos on the Tonight Show comes close to the number of views yours has. Not even Bad Bunnies. Why do you think that's, what do you think that's a sign of? We would like to hear your comments on that.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Cheers. I think that is as simple as me being YouTube native. YouTube. Yeah, like where are you gonna find Bad Bunny's audience? You are gonna find it, I don't, I honestly don't even know what the most popular, yeah, sure, Spotify for sure.
Starting point is 01:26:26 But I was gonna say like even like social media platforms. I don't know what's most popular in the Latin world. Yeah, I have no idea. But you know, on those platforms, I'm sure I'm gonna be getting 26 views for every million that he gets. Like it's a completely different, we're running on different tracks essentially.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And this is home turf. I'm gonna perform best on YouTube. I'm gonna kill it on YouTube and anywhere else I'm gonna struggle by comparison. With that said, credit to their team, credit to Jimmy and Bad Bunny himself, and I did a pretty good job too. Even off YouTube, especially the clips with the glasses,
Starting point is 01:27:12 actually is performing really well. Like on Facebook. Do you mean the color changing glasses or the screen? On Facebook, dude, that segment, I think it actually includes both of those. That segment is performing cray cray. And I think it's actually doing pretty well on Instagram as well, which are both platforms
Starting point is 01:27:29 where I am not in a particularly strong position. Yeah. Let me see if I can find it. They upload so much stuff. That's another thing too, is a lot of the time it's hard to evaluate how successful one of their clips was in the first week because you'll have stuff that will over time go viral. Like there's clips on the Tonight Show YouTube channel
Starting point is 01:27:53 that have a hundred million views. We have never uploaded anything with a hundred million views. So you've got to give them time to cook. I do think like, especially five-ish plus years ago, that type of content was getting hyper pumped by YouTube. This is true. And like I said, I think I did a great job, but you've also got to just understand
Starting point is 01:28:19 that it's a completely different model. It's like a scatter gun. They're just gonna. A lot of them were uploaded like at the same time. As far as I could tell. They're not optimizing for the YouTube platform at all. And we threw our weight behind it too. Like we made sure to throw social promotion after it to give ourselves the best possible chance.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Apparently the top video has 493 million views. Yeah, there you go. There you go. There you go That's a lot Well, let me see if I can let me see if I can find like this is yeah This is wild. I can't even find the one that performed really well There's one that has like millions of views or something and these these are these are not them I love it. Can you scroll down a little bit? I love that you guys sent that photo in as your your official. Oh, yeah, buddy
Starting point is 01:29:08 We had a backup we had a backup in case they didn't like it the other ones are just so they're so serious so professional Yeah, and then it was just like white line is our backup was sad Linus A bit of a half measure backup. Yeah we wanted we wanted. We wanted to put them very firmly in a corner of we can publish a meme picture or we can publish a meme picture. Oh my god. Alexi is right, dude. Make another poster.
Starting point is 01:29:37 You should do wide linus as a poster. No text on it even. Just huge linus face. No, we did some like meme products with that in the past and honestly, I regret it. I wish we didn't do it. The people who bought it, they seemed to like it. It didn't actually sell that well. Like I was opposed to it in the first place.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It didn't sell that well. And more importantly, I want LTT store to be serious. I think you were doing like the sequin pillows and stuff. Yeah. We also did a desk pad. I didn't like those either. Or we did mouse pads as well. Yeah, but that would have been white background,
Starting point is 01:30:04 wouldn't it? No, no Or we did mouse pads as well. Yeah, but that would have been white background, wouldn't it? No, no, we did like Linus' face, like Linus' selfie, the wide one. We did that as a mouse pad. I gave one to my dad. Yeah. He hates it. He has to have it turned away
Starting point is 01:30:15 because Linus scares him. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't want us to become like Redbubble, you know? Like first party Redb red bubble store. No Yeah, I I genuinely thought a poster of it would be funny. I didn't like the sequin pillows either But anyways, I want LTT store to be taken seriously Linus 2025 also LTT store Well, I can't do anything about like Elijah making promises Technically you can yeah, I was gonna say I mean once it's out in public
Starting point is 01:30:51 Well, okay, but I shouldn't I shouldn't like that's I think that's the strength of our organization though Is that we we allow fresh ideas? I don't disagree with this I'm just saying. We encourage fresh ideas and sometimes those fresh ideas are just sort of awful and we live with those consequences. They can come out moldy. The curse of growing as an organization. Yeah Dan Dan 160 in Float Plane chat says at Linus we are still your boss yeah I mean that's the thing right? A weird thing is like you think about how how connected you are in, you are to the company, right?
Starting point is 01:31:27 You have a lot of feelers and a lot of things that are going on. You definitely don't know more than half the things that happened in a week at the company. No. Like not even close. Not even close. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Yeah. You can't anymore. You got a hundred people presumably like working an entire work week. Like these are, More than that when you count though contractors and remote even though You know in the grand scheme of things, you know compared to the kinds of companies that we are talking about, right? We're talking about an AMD or an Intel or an Nvidia or whatever else like compared to these these behemoths
Starting point is 01:31:57 We are tiny peanuts, but these are still Unfathomable numbers on a weekly basis. Let me just do the math here, because it's 40 hours a week per person. On a weekly basis, we are doing 4,000 hours How are you supposed to keep up with that? Of work. On the one hand, sometimes you look at sort of the organizational inefficiencies, you go, it's a bloody miracle we can get anything done. And then on the other hand, you look at some of the things that we accomplish and you go, holy crap, how is this even possible? This is incredible. Sometimes in the same meeting.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually pretty common. Yeah. What else we got? Yeah, let's maybe do one more. Hello, LLD. I'm looking into getting a 5090 and possibly doing a giveaway for it or a system when I launch my PC themed card game later this year. Any advice on hosting a giveaway or things to consider? I will say this. Hosting a giveaway is not something that we have found is a particularly effective promotional tool. We've had some really
Starting point is 01:33:05 good success with charity auctions. Those have done really, really well in terms of resonating with our community. But the thing about giveaways that we've found is that you think, man, I am making one winner. I am making one lucky winner. What you're actually doing, because people are mostly self-centered, which makes sense. And I mean this in the context of compared to strangers. I think that if you talk to the average person, they are probably extremely generous. If their buddy wins it that they know. They'll be stoked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:44 But everybody else in the pool is not their buddy. They're just a stranger and they would much rather have it for themselves. So what effectively you've done is if you have a thousand entries into the draw is you have created 999 losers. And that's it. That's their experience with your brand. That's their exposure to your brand. You might get people just like signing up for the giveaway, but I doubt that they are going to have any kind of long-term affiliation with you or your brand. And I have personally not had great experience
Starting point is 01:34:18 with just like doing giveaways to, you know, promote a thing we're doing or whatever else. It doesn't, it hasn't been very effective for us. Some brands still do it though, and clearly they're getting some kind of ROI like AMD. They are really into doing the giveaways as part of AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade, just as a way to kind of drive engagement.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Although I do think a lot of the time stuff like that pretty much comes down to like a team trying to create a KPI that proves that somebody interacted with the media that they sponsored. And so it probably comes more down to that, like, hey, here is provable demonstrable evidence that this piece of content we sponsored,
Starting point is 01:34:58 this AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade was viewed and people interacted with our brand, even if the giveaway itself has absolutely nothing to do with what their desired outcome is. It's mostly an exposure campaign. AMD exerts functionally zero force on the content of these videos. All they ask is that there's an AMD product in it
Starting point is 01:35:20 and you guys, in good faith, don't completely freaking ignore it. That's, that's all from my understanding. That's pretty much all that they ask. Plus the giveaway call out call outs. I used to stream a bunch. And when I did that, at one point in time, my stream was almost functionally a giveaway
Starting point is 01:35:41 stream. I would buy humble bundle keys and other people in the community would buy humblele keys and we'd put them all in a pile and we'd give them away. And it got to the point where we were giving away so many keys, because I was like almost trying to buffer against this whole, you're just making losers thing, that it started making losers anyways, but the losers it was making were people that only won one game versus other people that won more than one game. And it got to a point was just like, this is just stupid. So we stopped. And then I converted my whole stream to almost effectively charity streaming for like two or three years. And we raised like, I think in the end,
Starting point is 01:36:17 over those years, we raised over a hundred grand for BC children's and that was cool. And that community was really cool. And then I moved and stopped streaming. But that was like, that was the correct pivot is basically what I'm saying. Oh, Graham's a nice guy. Okay, what's next Mr. Dan? More topics. Oh, we get to do more topics.
Starting point is 01:36:39 We have been bamboo-zold. Bamboo Labs, maker of some of the most popular 3D printers for home users has announced a security update in which they update their limiting third party tool access. For example, certain slicer programs. Bamboo claims this update will ensure only authorized access and operations are permitted and mitigate risks of remote hacks
Starting point is 01:37:01 or printer exposure issues. We talked about this a little bit last week. The 3D printing community quickly became outraged by this, worried about the long-term effects, such as that this might allow Bamboo in the future to restrict filament types, add a possible subscription. They also raised many more concerns. Bamboo did put out a response titled,
Starting point is 01:37:22 "'Setting the record straight about our security update in which they denied the claims about some people's future concerns like restricting filament or possible subscriptions. But they don't seem to have addressed, and they said that this is security related only, but people are basically still super not happy about it. And I think this is a pretty unnecessary
Starting point is 01:37:44 sh** stain on their reputation. I'm gonna leave this to the people who kind of understand the tools that they're using and the impact better before I wade too deep into it but I will say the reputational damage has obviously been very very high. As someone whose household almost exclusively uses the bamboo handy app already Yeah, I know right It's a great name. It's not gonna impact me until they like screw it up even more potentially But I definitely want to throw my support behind our brothers who want more open tools Samsung has quietly removed Samsung has quietly removed Bluetooth connectivity
Starting point is 01:38:27 from the Galaxy S25 Ultra's S Pen. This change takes away air actions, which lets users open apps, navigate through galleries, or use the S Pen as a remote camera shutter. Over the many years that I used a Note9, the camera shutter remote control was probably my most used feature with the stylus. People talk about that all the time. It is so or was.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Like everyone that I know that has an S Pen does. It was so handy. This would be enough for me to not consider an S25 and to just get an S24. Samsung explained that the decision was driven by low user engagement and pointed out that similar functions are available in the Galaxy Watch, starting $60 and the Galaxy Ring starting at $300. Whoa, interesting. Sorry. Rest Assured and Flippling Chat said, we are in the DoD supply chain or Department of Defense, I'm assuming they're American, and had to throw out all of our bamboo printers because it requires an
Starting point is 01:39:20 account hosted in China now. Got him. Whoa. Crazy. So, uh, I guess what he's saying is you should probably sneak onto DOD property and dig through their dumpsters. Slash S. Slash S. Good luck. Do not do that.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Don't even try. If you do, vlog it. Poor chat. Poor chat. No, guys. If you do vlog it, it's just a chat, poor chat. No guys. If you do vlog it, it's just a prank bro. Contact Shii. It's just a prank. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:39:52 A Redditor has written a script to put words in my mouth. Little did he know he doesn't eat a script for that. He can just misquote me by snipping out context. Redditor, Labtech901 wrote a script that takes clips of me saying specific words
Starting point is 01:40:08 in WAN show VODs and rearranges them to make me say whatever they want. Let's have a look at some of the results here. Dan, do I have audio? No. Yeah, that's fine. I had Twitch chat open in a tab by accident. Who cares? You know, I haven't attacked Twitch chat much lately.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah. I kind of miss my favorite punching bag. Love you guys. You're awful. All right. Ready, Dan? Hello, my name is Linus. Today, I want to talk to you about something very important to me.
Starting point is 01:40:46 I do not like the viewers, I do not like Luke, and I definitely do not like Dan. I do not like Dan so much that I'm helped he goes away and never returns. I also want to talk about how much June- Reminds me of, um... Homer Simpson with the... that episode? No, there's a... there's a... okay, so... Apparently it was kind of quiet. YouTube farts from back in the day were kind of like that, but then there's another...
Starting point is 01:41:16 Dan, do you want to just drop the link if people want to check it out? Yeah, sure. There's a YouTube creator, I don't know how many people are going to like these songs, but... There's a YouTube creator called Young Scrolls that makes Elder Scrolls music. St. Geob, I genuinely really like this EP but he makes Elder Scrolls music based on voice lines from the game. Daggath Wave is legitimately a sick song, has 13 million views, I'm not surprised, it is dope. But it sounds, some of it can sound kind of like that, because it's lines taken from
Starting point is 01:41:53 different parts of the game. And I kind of like, they're incredibly good at what they do to the point where they make it sound good anyways. And I did appreciate, I saw someone, when AI music started kicking off a bunch, people were like, oh, you can use this now. You don't have to just pull voice lines from the game and stitch them together and make your music that way. You can make it flow better by making them speak the lines out properly using AI voices.
Starting point is 01:42:20 And they were like, no. The reason why I do it the way I do it is because I like it the way I do it. And I was like, sick. Fair enough. Nice. But yeah, it immediately, listening to that immediately reminded me of Young Scrolls. Dan, do you know what spiderweb cables are from that last merch message that popped up? Because I am super interested in fiber splicing and stuff too.
Starting point is 01:42:39 I've wanted to do a video on that for a while. We just need to kind of find an expert to kind of walk us through it. And then we'll basically just kind of stand there and go, oh yeah, and then we'll try it and we'll probably fail and it'll be fun. Yeah, because we have a little tiny baby, you know, fusion splicer. Yeah, I would love to do that. I want to do that. Can we do that? I want to do that. Linus, post on the forum in the video suggestion. Did you just tell me to post on the forum? Yeah. Okay, maybe instead... I actually don't know how to tell people that we have a video idea.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Internally, I mean. Oh, internally. Oh, you can just send it to Vance. Okay. Okay, cool. What else we got? Bye-bye Blu-ray? According to Tom's hardware, Sony announced that it will end production of recordable Blu-ray discs, also mini-discs, MD data and mini-DV cassettes, in February.
Starting point is 01:43:34 The company had already discontinued recordable consumer Blu-ray and optical discs in mid-2024, and at the time indicated they would continue production for business and corporate clients until it became unprofitable. I guess it is this day. Some media outlets are mistakenly reporting this as the end of Blu-ray, but professionally replicated Blu-ray movies are not affected by this announcement,
Starting point is 01:43:53 and Sony is not the only producer of blank media. Pioneer even has discs that are good for 100 years. So that's just a quick little bit I wanted to throw in there. And then finally, TikTok is back. On January 18th, two hours before the official ban came into effect, TikTok began shutting down its services in the US, including cutting live streams that were currently active and forced rebooting the app
Starting point is 01:44:16 for users who had it open. Once it was reopened, they were met with a message explaining the situation and the ban. Less than an hour later, the message was changed to explain that they're hopeful about working with President Trump to change this ban. And then less than 12 hours later, services were restored in the US with the following message.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Thank you for providing the necessary clarity and assurance to our service providers that they will face no penalties for providing TikTok to over 170 million Americans and allowing over 7 million small businesses to thrive. So TikTok is back, but it has to have 50% ownership be under a US-based company. So we will see how that goes. I think Mr. Beast is bidding for it. Oh, boy. Yeah, right. Why don't we do Lanshow After Dark? I'm not gonna lie, my mouth's getting a little sore, so uh. You
Starting point is 01:45:10 are feeling it a little bit? I'm feeling it a little bit. That makes sense. Yeah, I uh, overall it went really well. I'm very surprised. I had the uppers this time, I had the lowers last time, and I didn't go under. I just had local numbing, and they like basically dug in there and got them because they were impacted. So that is to say they were covered by the gum. It was a pretty awful experience. I was knocked on my butt for a couple days. I needed the pain meds. It was got a little bit infected. No, no dry socket, thankfully. But yeah, it sucked. And then this time, because the experience was so awful last time when they asked me, hey, do you just want general anesthesia? I've never gone under before. And I've always been a little bit uneasy about it.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Um, just because like, very, very, very occasionally, you can like not wake up and stuff like it's still, you know, chemicals in your body, which is not a thing I'm a huge fan of overall. huge fan of overall. But the cost difference was like negligible because contrary to what a lot of people think we have an imperfect health care system but it isn't you know just completely horrible across the board. There are a lot of things I do like about it. There's a lot of things that are numerous flaws. There's a lot of things that are bad about it but there's a lot of things that are not that bad about it. So the the cost difference for going under general anesthesia was pretty minor. And I was like, you know what? Sure. Let's go for gold.
Starting point is 01:46:32 So they basically injected the one thing into the IV, injected the second thing into the IV, and I kind of went, oh yeah, is that it? And I woke up. Hours later, it was shockingly fast. So anyway, yeah, so I went went under general they removed the whole thing and then we posted a float plane exclusive of me Coming at me heading in and then me coming down
Starting point is 01:46:56 This is this is me before because I wouldn't be driving if I just woke up from general anesthetic Yeah, this is me extremely high. Anyway, that's on float plane right now. But you're smiling and walking around. So it must not have been that bad, like right off the hop. I don't know, I don't remember. Fair enough. So yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 01:47:18 But I know you were in voice chat playing games with like employees. I think on Wednesday? Like a day or two, oh really, it was Wednesday? Yeah, I think so. employees. I think on like a day or two. Oh, really? It was Wednesday. Yeah, I think so. No, no, no, Tuesday, Tuesday. You sure? Yeah. Anyway, anyway, after I woke up from sort of like my twilight sort of first day, I it's been really good. They did an amazing job. The sutures are super clean. Nothing's really gotten infected or anything. And so now- High at work? No, this was an after work, just people having fun thing. Now I'm sitting here kind of going like, man, should I have even bothered going under? Because
Starting point is 01:47:53 it was, yeah, it was overall pretty good. I saw a lot of comments that are like, what is he going under general for this? It's relatively common here for people to do it. And the only reason that I did it was because the experience the first time was pretty, was pretty not very good. But yeah, the tops are supposed to be easier. I just, I guess I just was like, yeah, but like how much easier? And if it doesn't change things that much,
Starting point is 01:48:17 I guess I'll just do it. So yeah, I basically had a really, really fitful nap. And then was this guy for a bit oh my goodness I'm excited to watch that I'm assuming there's some of on commentary to you filming right yeah yeah. She's the one who filmed it. All right, after dark. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. There we are.
Starting point is 01:48:52 All right, you ready for some merch messages? Yes. Hi, DLL, building a new PC soon, but not sure whether to go with a 9800X3D now or wait for the 9950X3D benchmarks. What do you think about AMD's claims that the 9950 will match the 9800 gaming performance? I think it's pretty likely. I mean, most games are not going to be touching more than eight cores these days.
Starting point is 01:49:14 And so as long as they're steering everything to the right die and we're not splitting the load across CCDs, there's no real reason that a 9950X3D that I can think of should not perform about like a 9800X3D would as long as they give it all the power and thermal headroom that it needs as long as you have adequate cooling on it. I mean it's basically got a 9800X3D there and then it has like another die with eight more 10 5 cores but no 3d vcache so it all comes down to how well amd through you know microcode working with microsoft all that stuff can can manage the load and make sure that all the correct load is following on all the correct course hey lily luke and dan after your tooth removal, you said you didn't want to risk
Starting point is 01:50:06 of going under. What changed your mind this time? I don't know, YOLO. It's pretty bad last time. Yeah, it kind of sucked last time. I think the chance of risk is pretty low. It is pretty low. It exists.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Yeah. And I would, I don't know if I'd ever recommend someone do it just because I wouldn't want to be responsible for that. I went in saying that I didn't want to do it, but then he was like, yours are growing in like sideways and stuff. You need to go under. And I was like, well. And I do wonder if me going under general, you know, made me a compliant enough patient that they were able to really get in there and do a better job. Like I actually do kind of want to. That was also mentioned. Mine were like really far back and they were able to really get in there and do a better job? Like I actually do kind of wonder that was also mentioned mine were like really far back and they were like we're gonna have to torque your jaw around
Starting point is 01:50:49 like a lot so it's better if it's kind of droopy nice and the tongue as far as my understanding goes right can be really annoying if you're like awake right yeah anyways i don't know i don't know what i'm talking about linus the short luke the tall and dan the man. Is there any decision that you have made recently that I don't know, that you from 10 years ago wouldn't agree with or vice versa? And why can't staff swear even in float plane exclusives?
Starting point is 01:51:16 Sure. I'm going to take the easy cop out answer. And I wouldn't have gone under general 10 years ago, but I'm just like, yeah, whatever, screw it. Go for it. I'm I don't know, as I as I get older, in some ways, I'm just like, yeah, whatever, screw it. Go for it. I'm, I don't know, as I, as I get older, in some ways I'm getting like way more conservative, but as I get older, in some ways I'm also getting way more YOLO. So I don't know how to reconcile that. To clarify, conservative as in? Oh, like in terms of being risk averse.
Starting point is 01:51:40 There you go. Anywho. We'll just sit on that for a minute. As for whether staff can't swear, they absolutely can. We just bleep it. Yeah. Yeah. People, people, pfft, people f***ing swear all the f***ing time in this office. It's f***ing unprofessional is what it is.
Starting point is 01:51:56 My bad. I learned from Luke. I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get better. I'm actually actively working on it. It's not working very well, but I'm trying. I think it's more punctual now. I don't think it's important. I Don't think it's a good thing. I also don't necessarily like I don't there's a point really against it. Yeah, but I think like For me, I think it it can limit the use of language sometimes because you use they're often used as like
Starting point is 01:52:25 multi-use words Yeah, and I think their words. Yeah, you can you can stretch your vocabulary more and stuff by not using them as much I think that's one of the reasons why I want to do it Her chance I'm never gonna like completely stop but uh Yeah, I think also being better at reining it in around certain company like kids or whatever else Would be good Yes, it would. Yeah, my kids are gonna be old enough that it's not gonna matter by the time you get that sort of dope Luke really?
Starting point is 01:52:55 Yeah My biggest problem is generally when we're like playing games cuz all I get hype Well, and I'm just like like on WAN show I don't cuz my brain like switches into this mode, but when I'm playing games Gaming with my bro. I've been gaming with my bro's mode. So my brain isn't like thinking like oh, yeah, don't say that I Don't know. It's not great. It doesn't feel like a good look You know, it's control about about decisions you made recently that you from 10 years ago wouldn't agree with?
Starting point is 01:53:27 Decisions I made recently. I feel like I'm going to twist this and go with like observations. I think 10 years ago having self-recognition that there's like really cool things about being a what feel I understand we're barely out of small but what feels like huge company there are like benefits to it. You were like adamantly against like angry about growth sometimes. There are still parts about it I do not like. Oh 100 percent. And I think I probably do feel strongly more strongly about that than most people here. But there are more things that I do like about it
Starting point is 01:54:08 than I would have expected for sure. And certain of my decisions have contributed to leading us down a path of continued expansion over time. So like, that would be very surprising for me, I think. Hey Linus, I remember you mentioned a while back that you wanted to make more women's clothing and was wondering if an LTD skirt was in the pipeline. Not that I'm aware of. I've also got some other merch messages about women's clothing in general
Starting point is 01:54:41 and if it's not selling well and if you're planning to do more at all. No, it hasn't sold particularly well. I don't think we've lost money, but I think overall we have not made any money on it. So there's a significant opportunity cost there when our team is working hard and building what I believe are really good products. Like our women's clothing was really good. And it not selling. I mean, that just, it's discouraging across the board, right, both for the bean counters, and for the people that pour, you know, you got to think about it, right? Like they pour their life, you know, into what they create.
Starting point is 01:55:19 We take that kind of thing really seriously, we don't want to waste our time, right? And so if we're making something really great and ultimately, you know, it's not resonating, you know, it's not resonating enough, then we'd rather create something that makes, you know, more people really happy. It's just a natural thing. And whether that's, you know, whether that's right or not, you know, yeah, we could debate about that till the cows come home, but at the end of the day, like, think about your own dopamine hit, right? Like, if you post something on Reddit and it gets four upvotes, or you post something on Reddit and it gets 40,000 upvotes, which one makes you feel better?
Starting point is 01:55:54 So, yeah, I still want to, you know, try to support it as best we can, but it's just not really, it's not really fly in as it is right now. Hey, Alina Slick and who again? If you had to choose whether to turn off the taps for hardware or software development forever, which would you choose? Thanks for keeping it positive you guys. In the context where you say hardware and software, it really makes it sound like you're talking
Starting point is 01:56:21 about electronics hardware, in which case, to your knowledge, we aren't doing any of that. And we certainly can't turn off software development. I don't think he means like at the company. You know, in general. Oh. I think this is more like a traditional what if. I'd rather have all the hardware we have today forever
Starting point is 01:56:42 and continue seeing software develop, find new innovative ways to use it, no question, that's not even... I mean, unless you disagree. Hit me. No, yeah, I think so. Like really, do you want to play all the same games that you play today on like faster and faster hardware? They would have to optimize the games. I actually pitched a video internally today called game developers are not lazy
Starting point is 01:57:07 Because this is just a completely fucking bullsh** argument Yeah, sorry, I probably shouldn't stare at my own drama. I just keep I keep seeing people just mindlessly parrot having seemingly no understanding whatsoever of the actual dynamics that are at play in the games industry. Even I understand just a fraction of it having never worked in it, but I understand it well enough to know that if a game has a problem, it almost certainly doesn't boil down to that every fucking developer who worked on it is a lazy fucking asshole. Like there's no way.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Yeah, Nurtle in chat says, as a backend developer can confirm everything I do takes 0.001 seconds slash S. No. Like come on. He's very serious. Does if he uses PHP properly. Gerald says, what about spaghetti code?
Starting point is 01:58:03 There are organizational issues. There are workflow code? There are organizational issues, there are workflow issues, there are management issues, there are tons of issues that can lead to sloppy work. And you know what? Sometimes it's because a developer is an absolute, just complete idiot and sucks. And they should not be doing that job
Starting point is 01:58:22 and they totally suck. I would hazard a guess that that is overwhelmingly rare. There's also people that aren't really developers that somehow, you know, fumble their way through managing to make a game. Yeah. But the game is good. Yeah. It might just be like coded terribly. Undertale famously is like 10,000 nested ifs. It's crazy. It's actually bonkers.
Starting point is 01:58:47 But incredibly famous game. Super successful. People love it. It's made by artists. They're making art. Yeah. So who cares? So yeah, maybe they do need ray tracing to actually get it to function the way they want. Maybe don't worry about the elitism so much. Is the game fun? Just make fun games. Is the game fun? I want that as a tattoo. If the game not fun, then who cares anyways? Who cares if it's spaghetti goat if the game's not fun? Parasocial friends! Linus, I see you on Reddit often.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Which social platforms do you all like or use regularly versus just having them for work? Oh, like in usage, okay. I thought he meant it. I was like, yup! Shit. Um, I don't actually use Reddit that often. I've been
Starting point is 01:59:32 on it a little bit lately just because it's, um, I tend to like to keep my finger on the pulse of, you know, what the heck is going on sometimes. Um, as for social platforms that I use, man, I barely touch Twitter these days.
Starting point is 01:59:48 I use Facebook almost exclusively to, you know, just look at user comments on Smash champs and to just browse marketplace because I just think marketplace is hilarious. It's full so much crazy stuff. I almost never open TikTok. I use YouTube, obviously. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:00:13 I'm just, I don't have a lot of time for it. Like I read the news. That's one of my vices. Like I'll just get like buried in like reading articles and stuff. That's my like doom scrolling. But I don't prefer video. I've talked about this so much over the years, in spite of the fact that I'm literally a video creator for a living. It is not my preferred method of digesting information. And that's still true today.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Hello, LLD. Oh, well, no one else answered that question. Luke, are you guys just trying to get me out of here because my mouth is so un-good? What was the question? What social platforms do you use? I know you use YouTube. Outside of work. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:56 Oh, uh, most of them are begrudgingly. YouTube I like. YouTube I like. The one thing I don't like about YouTube right now is I don't know what's going on with my phone, but it'll get in this thing where every time I unlock my phone, if YouTube is one of the things that is open, not even if it's the most previous one that was open, if it's one of the things that will open, the second I unlock the phone, it will bring it to front. Nice. And. Got him. It will bring a short up.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Nice. And start playing it. Wow. That should actually be illegal. I wasn't watching shorts. YouTube was not the most recently opened app. Can you ban dark patterns like that? That's, that is wild. What the heck is going on? I don't know if this is a specific, like. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:42 I'm only the one having this problem thing. I haven't seen it. I have no idea. But that's been happening to me a bunch. And it's been really annoying. I've also had situation. Yeah, I don't know. I've had stuff like that. That's very frustrating. But I do generally like YouTube. I begrudgingly use Twitter saying they've seen it. Yeah, same issue. Yeah. I don't know what that is, but that's really annoying, especially when like, if I'm out in public and it starts randomly playing some short of some dude like screaming something like I don't. That's wild. What do you mean? Like I don't want this to happen right now.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Anyways, I begrudgingly use Twitter. I begrudgingly use Facebook. There's like, you know, old high school contacts, family members, stuff like that. Facebook is the new phone book. Yep. Yeah. Especially like extended family. Like, there members, stuff like that. Facebook is the new phone book. Yep. Yeah. Especially like extended family, like, I don't know. Like there is no white pages anymore. So what the heck am I supposed to do if I need to like contact somebody?
Starting point is 02:02:31 If I'm messaging you one time every five years, it's probably on Facebook. It's probably on Facebook. I have like most of the annoying text messaging apps because everybody has their favorite flavor. Discord and YouTube are probably the only ones that I'm like fairly happily using. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Yeah. Hello, LLD with NVIDIA's showcase at CES. Do you ever think that LDT will ever integrate robots into the staff and if so, how? Ever is a big word. I mean- Ever is a massive word. Yeah mean- Ever is a massive word. Yeah, I have a hard time imagining a future
Starting point is 02:03:09 where we would be sophisticated enough to have like a digital twin version of our warehouse that our AI robots use to navigate the real one to help Jamie lift things. It feels science fiction and like comical, but you know the flip side of that is 10 years ago a lot of what we do today would have seemed completely out of reach. Like the way that LED lighting has changed the cost calculation for media production. Didn't see that one coming.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Oh, Tyman says depends on what you call a robot. That's a pretty good point. What about 3D printer? That's a very good point. What about a 3D printer? That's a very good point. I mean, yeah, robots are everywhere. What about a robot vacuum? Sure. Oh, dude, I would totally deploy robot vacuums to this place if I thought that they could actually
Starting point is 02:03:56 navigate our mess. Oh yeah. Would like a standing robot just be like a CNC humanoid? Cause technically all robots are CNC machines One of my pet peeves is is people saying just CNC instead of CNC router or CNC mill it's actually Hilarious pet peeve and that bothers you. Yeah, just a little bit That's your like change change his job title. Dan Besser pedant.
Starting point is 02:04:31 He knows it too. It's okay. Fine. I accept. automation on markbench. That's a pretty good argument. Yeah. Literally robot arm that's already deployed. Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff in labs. Yeah, there's other examples other than that, too Hi DLL have you seen the 3d benchy Controversy interested on your thoughts about enforcing copyright after years of being so lax. I've only peripherally noticed it It seems kind of annoying so basically someone owns the prop the copyright for the benchy model that everyone uses as their kind of benchmark for 3d printers. And finally, someone either like,
Starting point is 02:05:11 did they acquire it or they're like, finally after so many years, they're they're enforcing it and like not letting people freely distributed. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, apparently the controversy is not true. So there you go. Oh It's misunderstood. Give me a sec to find the link says Rysaw. So there you go. Let's just my understanding It has something to do with modifying it and then redistributing it sure then it's not a benchmark anymore But now we have Bodhi. I don't know. Oh my god, who cares cuz like yeah exactly. It's it's a it's a bench That is now the new benchmark called Bodhi. Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Sure. Now I need to see it. Of course it is. Bodhi. It's such a wonderful community. I love all of them. Bodhi, 3D print. So what am I even looking at?
Starting point is 02:06:04 3D Bodhi. Yeah, 3D Bodhi, there you go. Okay, man. Bodie, 3D print. So what am I even looking at? 3D Bodie. Yeah, 3D Bodie. There you go. Okay, 3D Bodie. It's got same sort of overhang bridging test. Like, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Bodie the bench. All right. Sure. Yep. Oh, that's so legit. If there was anyone who was going to maliciously comply this hard, it would be the 3D printing community. So good on you guys. That really, that makes sense.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Artistic nerds are the best. Yeah. Alright, let's see. You should really, have you talked to, uh, uh, Labs Web Dan? Uh, not really, maybe just occasionally. You two should chat at some time. That would be nice. occasionally. You two should chat at some time. That would be nice. Yeah. Hi DLL, as someone currently watching their country burn down, are there any steps someone can take to prepare for moving without having a job lined up?
Starting point is 02:06:52 Honestly, not really. I have people reach out all the time like wanting to move to Canada to work at LMG and every time I'm just like, yeah, I can't explain this because it seems like, especially over the last few years, we were importing people at a historical rate. I shouldn't say it seems like, because over the last few years, we've been importing people at an historical rate. And yet, if I have like a qualified international candidate, I have to go through all this like paperwork and LMA and, and yeah, I spend a ton of money and like freaking can't get people in here. And I'm just, I've never been able to kind of, I've never been able to kind of bridge those two facts in my mind. And so whenever people reach out to me from somewhere else, I'm basically just like, dude, I got no idea. no clue how to facilitate getting people here. It's, it's seemed incredibly complicated, even in some cases for people with, you know, that are that are young and able to work and have decent credentials and it's just like, nah, it's like, okay, so then just randoms then. Okay, sure, fine.
Starting point is 02:08:02 Cool. Hey, LLD question for Linus. What was it like for you during the procedure for getting your wisdom teeth removed, coming from someone who's going to have the same procedure later this year or next? Couldn't tell you. Don't remember any of it. I mean, really, the best advice I can give you is to talk to your dental professional and ask them what it's going to be like, because they they're gonna be the ones that know your case the best. And my sample size is of two.
Starting point is 02:08:29 I've had this procedure twice, both times it was different. So really it's two sample sizes of one if we wanna be very Dan about it. I did the same thing. I had a- No, no, be pedantic about it. Yeah, don't, don't worry, it's okay. No, what you actually meant to say was,
Starting point is 02:08:45 no, you're getting it anyway. All right, thank you. Anyway, talk to your dental professional. They're gonna have the best insight and the most experience to share with you. Hi, DLL. What's the one most impressive thing someone has done in a non-technical job interview with LMG?
Starting point is 02:09:04 I haven't interviewed anyone in like seven years probably. Every single interview I've done has been a technical interview. Cool. Sorry. Hey my big L's, I know you guys are no longer in the underwear business but me and my fiance love them and need more. Any brands you would give an approval for a similar fit and feel? Prove we're not in the underwear business. We've actually got new samples from a new supplier that I am wearing yesterday that are looking really promising.
Starting point is 02:09:37 So there you go. Yeah, Friday's a long day. Let's see. Hey, Linus, you sometimes use the phrase aren't exactly?" for emphasis. Is that a reference to something or did you make it up? It's kind of inspired by John Cleese's character in Faulty Towers when he like puts on a German accent
Starting point is 02:09:55 when he's talking to the Germans that stay in the hotel. I, it's, I don't know. I just think it's funny. You know, precision and German-ness. Who takes everyone? My home lab got hit by ransomware last week and I lost terabytes of raw video and photos. Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Any advice on the possibility of data recovery, cleanup, and future security enhancement?
Starting point is 02:10:24 I mean, at the end of the day, data safety comes down to three, two, one, right? Like three copies in at least two locations. Bloody hell, what's the one? Hit me. One offsite, two formats. One offsite, two formats. Yeah, one offsite.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Three versions, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, as for recovery man That's a challenge right because there's lots of smaller recovery places that Might do a great job or they might be a fly-by-night loser. That's gonna do more damage than good There are like, you know your reputable data recovery guys, but I promise you, even they could end up doing more damage than good. So that's number one. And then number two is you will pay, unless that footage is like, you know, of the orchestration of the JFK assassination or
Starting point is 02:11:16 something, like you're going to pay more for it to recover it than it is worth. Other than just, you know, saying I get it, and I've gone through data loss before, and it really sucks, there's not really a lot that I can offer you. That blows, you know, obviously, I made that investment into hex OS to make it hopefully easier for kind of techie people, but not necessarily, you know, networking command line people to, to have like a buddy backup and cloud backups enabled really techie people, but not necessarily, you know, networking command line people to
Starting point is 02:11:50 to have like a buddy backup and cloud backups enabled really easily on DIY hardware But that particular feature is not rolled out yet. Hopefully I'll have exciting news to share in the future But for now not much Yeah, I take my most important files to the cloud nightly Let's see, what else do we have here? Hey, DLL, how is the glow in the dark holding up on the Ticant? Is it just as strong as when the wrap was first applied? How long does dbrand expect it to last?
Starting point is 02:12:15 Should last as long as pretty much any glow in the dark thing that you have, which is to say that I believe the effect does fade a little bit over time, but no, it still works pretty good. Do you still charge it when you leave your house? No, that was a really cool and fun project, and it looks really cool when you first pull out of the garage, but realistically, there's enough.
Starting point is 02:12:35 If I was somewhere else, it would be super cool, but there's enough light in my area that within probably five minutes, you can't make it out too well anyway, so I was like, okay, well, this is kind of an obstacle in my garage that within probably like five minutes, you can't make it out too well anyway, so I was like, okay, well this is kind of an obstacle in my garage. And besides, I have some other cool plans for those black lights.
Starting point is 02:12:51 I want to take them to Smash Champs and set them up in the lighting grid, or not grid, but in the side lights for the courts, and I want to do like disco badminton. You know, like disco bowling. So yeah, the nylon shuttles do fluoresce, at least the Yonex ones do. And so if we could maybe put a fluorescing
Starting point is 02:13:12 top transparent coat over the court lines, the tape on the nets also fluoresces already. So that could be freaking cool. It's not the kind of thing we do all the time, but it's like once a quarter or something, doing like Disco Badminton Night or something. I think people would come out for that. Yeah, I suspect it would be pretty popular.
Starting point is 02:13:32 You might be able to do it more often than. And then I would do it over on the LAN party side, so that if we wanted to switch out the house lights and turn on all black lights for the LAN, then we could. Which I think would be pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Get some Chauvet Hex bars in there.
Starting point is 02:13:46 It'll be fun. I've got a couple more. Yeah. I assume that's a really cool light. Yeah, they're like the moving head things and they swing about in clubs and stuff. Hi, LLD. First time buying from LTT since I started watching you in 2020. I'll be traveling for the first time to Tokyo.
Starting point is 02:14:04 What would be your musty shops or sites and favorite meal and drink? It's not in Tokyo, but my highlight for sure was when we took the Shinkansen to the deer park in... Okay. When I travel with my family, I'm not really like a travel guy. I'm just there to like help wrangle kids and make life less stressful for everyone else. People are saying Nara. I do, yeah, Nara. I do whatever. So I just like, I go where I'm told to go and do what I'm told to do and, you know, Yvonne and the kids, they like do lots of cool stuff and that's super cool.
Starting point is 02:14:46 But Nara was really great, so that was really cool. I'm sure you'll get lots of great recommendations, by the way, in the Float Plane chat, but in terms of my recommendations, I, yeah, sure, Deer Park, it's pretty sick. Not in Tokyo, so sorry about that. The Mario Kart Go Karts on Park. It's pretty sick. Not in Tokyo, so sorry about that. The Mario Kart, you know, Go Karts on the Street thing is overrated.
Starting point is 02:15:10 I'll say that. Yeah, I kind of always assumed that. Yeah, just, whatever, I'm here. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Hey, Tech Napoleon, LaFernière, and I guess Dan. Linus, what's the last video you've fully written which wasn't a challenge video?
Starting point is 02:15:25 Also, what are a few projects or videos you've canceled? Last video fully written? Oh, I don't know, canceled projects. Cancel things all the time. I honestly do not remember. It's gonna be a lot easier for me to try and figure out this last thing I've written one. Oh no, not title contains. Why don't you have Luke do one in the meantime and then I can I can try and
Starting point is 02:15:52 bring up a list of videos. Only one left. Hey DLL, I broke a $4,000 printer at work due to poor documentation from the manufacturer. Are there any things you broke or damaged because of this? No, but what I can say is that we at Floatplane, as in I think actually most of the teams at this point have found and corrected software documentation for other companies before. Nice. I can think of honestly quite a few right off the top of my head where we'll be like, hey, this thing doesn't work. We're following your documentation.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Here's all the details. We think it's like maybe this other way and they'll get back to us and be like, ah, that documentation is wrong. Cool. Here's the stuff. Cool. Cool. Cool.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. like, oh, cool, cool, cool. I'm so happy we spent all that time trying to figure that out. Turns out even massive, multi billion dollar companies make mistakes. They do. They do. Because it turns out they're staffed by people and people are they do their best for the most part, I think. For the most part. There was one that I accidentally archived. It was something about how to help people like set up
Starting point is 02:17:04 parental controls and stuff. And honestly, the best advice I can give you is stay out of it. Let them figure out their stuff. And if they're not willing to put in the work, then you shouldn't be giving them tech support on how to manage parental controls because at the best of times,
Starting point is 02:17:17 they're an absolute cluster bomb. They are terrible. I still remember spending like an hour trying to figure out how to join a Minecraft Dungeons game with my kids in spite of the fact because they're miners and I'm not in spite of the fact that I am literally set up as the parent in our family unit. You'd think that would allow it. So annoying. Okay, so yeah, let me let me get back to let me get back to your question. So Okay, so yeah, let me let me get back to let me get back to your question. So here's our dashboard
Starting point is 02:17:54 Celebrity tech scam that's Alex Nintendo switch to that's David $20,000 server. That's Jake ray tracing is mandatory now Oh, that was a that was a team effort, but I think it was Adam that got it across the line Every RTX 5090 at CES that was collaborative my team new TV sucks again This was written by me and Alex's sections were written by him with a little bit of me kind of laying out which beats I wanted. Unreleased AMD thing that was me first a game on the RTX 5090 that was me. I've never been this angry and confused before. This was I believe this my oh this was ploof. one. I believe this might oh this was ploof. SteamOS this was Jordan. So let's see let's find a not let's find a not CES content piece that I wrote start to finish. I'm gonna use a tablet, wife through a gaming thing. We have a really talented writing team and they they do a lot. AMD upgrades are very ad lib, so you could kind of think of those as being largely kind of written by me, but also like not really written
Starting point is 02:18:54 in that sense. This I wrote a lot for. I wrote a ton of notes because I was the tester for the project and Jordan used some of my notes verbatim in the final script, but ultimately he was kind of tasked with operating in the role to kind of get it over the board. Yeah, let's see. I think probably the last one. Oh, Dbrand, I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, very, again, very, like, kind of written by me in the sense that I was there. Jake did a great job of the the HexOS reveal. I think probably the last one that I wrote start to finish would have been the Equinix tour. Yeah, let's go with, let's go with Equinix Tour. Yeah, there it is.
Starting point is 02:19:46 So this one, I basically got briefed by them, wrote it, hosted it, and then came home. That's all I got? No, that's all I got. That's all I got, too. Yeah. That's all we got. That's all I got to you. Yeah That's all we got. That's all we got Hopefully next week is a little less ridiculous. What are the odds? I think most betting sites would not say favorable
Starting point is 02:20:16 40 to 1 interesting. What about the magic 8-ball? What does the magic 8-ball say is there? There's got to be a web magic 8-ball Magic 8-ball come on here. We go ask Magic 8-Ball say? Is there, there's gotta be a web Magic 8-Ball. Magic 8-Ball, come on. Here we go. Ask the 8-Ball. Here we go. What is your question? I don't have to type it, do I? No, you just ask.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Oh, look at the ads on this site. Good Lord. Wow. Okay, so hold on. You just, oh, okay. Sure. So will next week's WAN show be less ridiculous? There you go.
Starting point is 02:20:47 This is Linus mode. You can't see the ads. Here we go. You may rely on it. Oh. All right, well, we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Bye!

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