The WAN Show - I Love My Mac - WAN Show April 10, 2026

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. Welcome to The WAN Show. We got a great show lined up for you guys today. It is week two of the positive WAN show. I had more fun last week than I probably have in over a year doing WAN show. Maybe we just keep it this way. I was skimming through the dock today and I was just like, yeah. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:00:50 So I want to talk about all these. We got a lot to talk about. One of the big ones is that I have spent about the last week with my MacBook Neo. I am ready to talk about some of my experiences with it, both good and also not as good. And in other news that I got right before the show started, you bought one? Technically, not for me, but yes.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I freaking called it. So I can't believe how hard I called that. Yeah. I don't know. Usually you're the one who's predicting things out here like freaking Nostradamus, and now I get to do it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It's a small win. Yep. But it's a win nonetheless. Speaking of wins, nonetheless, the French government is ushering in La Ne de Lin-Den-E-Nu-New. which I assume is how they would say it. The year of Linux.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We'll be talking about that. What else we got today? I mean, there's more Linux news on top of that. Dear, John Deere, settles U.S. right to repair lawsuit, agreeing to a hundred million dollar fund for farmers and other things that I think is arguably like more important, but we'll talk about that soon. Also, Steam just, this is actually so exciting to me. There's going to be a, I can't find the topic, but there's going to be a frame rate
Starting point is 00:02:00 estimator for game. when you're looking at them in the store so you can tell how well it might perform on your machine, which is so sick, and they would have the data. They would have the data. It's awesome. And I would have the intro. The show is brought to today by D-Brand,
Starting point is 00:02:37 Odu, Squarespace, and Proton alongside our rap partner, D-brand, and our chair partner and laptop partner, which is Razor, and also Razor. Do we need to have a policy that you're only allowed to sponsor the WAN show like once at a time? You know what? No, I don't think we do. Let's jump right into the headline topic, which this week has just got to be. I mean, it's MacBook Neo Mania out there. And now that I've switched over to it, dude, I got to say, it's the real deal.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, it's funny because the one that I purchased, which again, wasn't for me, but the one that I purchased is the same color. Yeah, okay. So you, you like the, you like the, the yellowish, yellowish green.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I think it's just fun. There's so many things these days that are just either black or white. Yep. And it's like, okay. So,
Starting point is 00:03:31 it's fun to just have something else. I don't want to bore you guys. And I know that, you know, the LTT audience tends to swing a little bit less. Hey,
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm so excited about Apple. Please tell me more about Apple. So why don't I talk about some of the challenges that I've had with it? It turns out that while the MacBook Neo has been an absolutely fantabulous
Starting point is 00:03:52 sort of daily driver machine, web browsing, word processing, chat, you know, all the things that I mostly spend my days doing have been, I don't know how to describe it other than enjoyable. It's just such a nice machine to use. Every aspect of it that you interface with directly
Starting point is 00:04:13 is so good. But there have been a few, challenges that have reared their head over the last little bit, and the one that's probably been the most disruptive to me is the limitations on the I.O. If you're the kind of person that never connects your laptop to anything, I think I could recommend the Neo without hesitation unless you use software that you know, you know you're going to need more RAM, you're going to need more performance for. If you're just someone who uses a browser on your laptop, heck yeah, If you dock, I've had some issues.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Really? Interesting. We got a, one of those like dual USBC port out into a big breakout box. It just runs along the side. I think there's one from Anchor, U. Green, a few different brands. Yeah. And it's been totally fine. But it's not a dock fully.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So it kind of is. There's HTML out and stuff. In fairness to Apple, the display that I'm connected to, not the most compatible. It's that Dell. 6K one that we did a video on a little while ago. And there's two problems. So first of all, it doesn't run at 6K, obviously,
Starting point is 00:05:26 because there's no way that this would be able to drive it. It runs at 4K, which would be fine, except that macOS's native handling of non-16x9 and non-the-same aspect ratio as their displays displays is frankly unacceptable. There's already the weirdness with how Mac handles your, like where setting your resolution rather sets your DPI, like it sets your scaling, is how we would sort of think of it on Windows. And that can already be a little bit confusing. But on top of that, when you go through the list, even when you say expose all resolutions
Starting point is 00:06:11 or show me every resolution or something like that, when I'm connected to that Dell, even when I close my lid, which from the last time, I did a MacBook challenge, if I recall correctly, is the only way to fully disable this display. You can't just like turn it off in the display manager. And if I'm wrong about that, guys, hit me up in the chat. But even if you close the lid and you're just only using your ultra wide display, I don't get a single ultra wide resolution. There is a tool that I downloaded. It's called Better, I think it's called Better Display. Yeah, better display. But frankly, after spending about three minutes on it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I didn't figure it out immediately, and it seems pretty obtuse. So the stretching for my display has been pretty freaking annoying. Not nearly as annoying as the occasional complete disconnects. Oh, weird. It'll just disconnect, go back to this for a second, and then fire the display backup.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I haven't messed with external displays, I haven't ran into any of that. Another big one is that I'm getting occasional Wi-Fi issues that I don't know if it's related to Apple's Wi-Fi chip or or if it's related to our
Starting point is 00:07:29 ubiquity access points or what it is. But I'm going to fire this over to Dan just so I can show you guys. But occasionally, I will just run into a situation where I can't stream video. Weird. Yeah, I was trying
Starting point is 00:07:45 to review a video today on Frame I. And I just couldn't. And I was like, okay, that's really annoying, but maybe it's frame I-o. I have seen it before. I've seen it on YouTube as well, but I was like, okay, maybe it's just frame I-o being a derp. And so I fired up YouTube, and I had exactly the same issue. I literally could not watch a YouTube video. I'm not going to, I'm not going to make you guys watch the whole clip here, but Dan, did you get that? Let me know when you get a chance and, uh, for me, for me, just while he's figuring that, out. There was some stuff that was just like learning curve things, right? Because I have no real
Starting point is 00:08:25 experience with macOS. So trying to figure out how to like set it up properly and stuff was just a little weird. But it wasn't that bad. It's just kind of different. And you know, coming off of being on the Linux challenge for two months or whatever, like learning new things about an operating system is kind of fresh right now. So not a big deal. You might say you're more used to thinking different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that really my dog, you know, the thing that the The thing that really got me, though, was installing stuff. It's very strange. If it's not in the app store, the drag and drop thing, it's like, oh, drag and drop.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Give us one sec, Dan. It's like, oh, oh, drag and drop, but you drag and drop and nothing happens. You have to, like, drag and hold and then, like, put it in an open spot in the folder, and then it sort of happens. It's like, what? I don't even think you have to do that. I think it's already doing it. And then you're just fidgeting around more.
Starting point is 00:09:20 and it's doing it in the background and then you're like, oh, it's done. I've always... There was also a lot of like ghost loading where that's what I want to call it, is where like you'd go to launch something. It's just nothing happens. Your mouse doesn't go beach ball, just nothing happens. Nothing comes out. And then you wait.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And then you wait. Oh, man. And then you wait a while and then it just launches. People are saying wrong and stuff like, yeah, probably. I have no idea what I'm doing. It's just those are the things that kind of felt weird so far. And I mean, to me, it's like, I get it, that that's the Mac way. You drag the thing over, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Why? Yeah. I already double-clicked it. Yeah. That was the weirdest part for me. It was like, what even is this step? Why? What is the point?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah. Why? Just, how about just know? I'm willing to bet. This is one of those things where I understand why other people are used to it. Totally get it. But hear me out. Would you notice or care if that step just,
Starting point is 00:10:21 went away and then nobody ever saw that ever again. Yeah. Probably not. Why does it like mount the installers? Maybe I was doing something weird. Very likely I was doing something weird because I don't know what the heck is going on. I've been disappointed by how many things I couldn't find in the app store. That too.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Discord. Yeah. Wasn't in the app store. Why wasn't Discord in the app store? Very weird. Maybe that's on Discord. Because I went to install something and then realized. I realized like, oh, I'm probably being such a boomer.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They have an app store, just like Linux as a package manager. I should just go use that. And then, yeah, it just wasn't in there. It's very odd. I thought, and that was one of the steps where I was like, this is for sure a me problem. So I checked that I spelled Discord right. Maybe it's buried for some reason. I scroll the whole time.
Starting point is 00:11:09 No, it's not there. Teams, too. What the heck? Didn't look for teams, yeah. And there's so many things. And, like, because people will take advantage of vacuums, in available apps, there's all these things
Starting point is 00:11:24 that are kind of similarly named trying to entice you to download them in the app store. It's like, no, obviously that's not what I want. Obviously, I just want teams and I just want my Discord. Yeah. But other than that,
Starting point is 00:11:37 it's actually been wonderful. And like I did the Body Flex thing. I did that as like a demo to show them. Like, no, it's actually made really well. Yeah, it didn't budge. Let's, let me show you how wonderful the experience I had earlier today was. Made laptop.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, but you don't, know that this is Oh no no I rebooted it and the issue Went away Okay And it's happened a few times Got it
Starting point is 00:12:01 I don't think we ran into this I wonder if this is a problem With your unit or something We'll see if other people in chat Have experienced this We're not going to be able to watch this whole thing It's a minute of us watching this YouTube video Not Load
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah So there's definitely been some But it just wasn't working It just It was not working It did not want any part of any of this. I don't think we can go back to end, but yeah, there you go. Let me just see if there's anything else that's kind of stood out.
Starting point is 00:12:29 The performance is really great until it's not great. Search is incredible. Oh, Spotlight. Oh, he's Spotlight pill now. I don't think I've ever used Spotlight before. It's spot. It made me just mad again because I'm like, why is it Windows so much better? But Spotlight seems awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:46 The funniest part of this is that correct me if I'm wrong, but over the last few years, I feel like the Mac community has soured on Spotlight a little bit and feels it's gotten worse. Wow. It used to be like, even better? Like God tier.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And now it's still like a tier. Oh, it's way better than Windows. But from my understanding, Mac users are a little bit like, come on, Apple, we can do better than this because they know they can. Spotlight is like... I really, really like Spotlight. I find the navigation of like, you know, your local storage and stuff to be pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like none of it feels like too bad. It was kind of nice coming in with a little bit of preexisting knowledge, knowing that if I had like my active window, the controls for it were going to be up in like the top bar, whatever you want to call that. Like knowing that ahead of time was kind of helpful. Learning how to use the, I think it's the called the dock, the bar at the bottom. learning how to use that in different ways and what things mean if it's to the right of the vertical line it's not actually on your dock
Starting point is 00:13:56 it's just there right now and okay I want to actually pin that to the dock and blah blah blah blah blah I continue to be annoyed that Apple just kind of gets a free pass for some of the included software that is basically an ad like the fact that Apple TV
Starting point is 00:14:12 is just literally front and center on my Mac when I buy it probably fair. I did think it was kind of neat that games is there though and there's like chess pre-installed. There's like some fun stuff. Like Windows. You want chess? You don't want bejeweled with micro transactions. See, this is my point. It's like Microsoft used to come with cool stuff. He used to get pinball and Solitaire. Space Cadet table. Pre-sell. Yeah. And now it's just like
Starting point is 00:14:38 add garbage. And I get the Mac open and I'm suddenly like excited to check out some of the apps. I'm like, oh, I wonder what the chess app is like. I wonder what some of these other things are like. Yep. I appreciated that not to already pivoted to Linux, but when I did my switch to KDE, KDE came with a bunch of pre-installed fun little games. I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet. They're so tiny.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Katowis says you should try the Windows Power Twos equivalent of Spotlight. It's so sad it's not built in. No, it's infuriating. Yeah. It's good news. And show week. I'm not going to be infuriated today. Good call.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Good call. But the number of times. that I've read that comment in float plane chat is more than a dozen over a span of of at least a couple of years. At which point, it's not on me for not installing it. It's on Microsoft
Starting point is 00:15:30 for not implementing it. Like, if Windows is good by default, I will likely be inspired to do things like that, to mod it to make it even better. But Windows has to be good by default. If Linux isn't quite there,
Starting point is 00:15:46 I'm much more willing to do stuff to it. didn't pay for it. Because this is free. I didn't pay for it. This is a very different, they cannot be seen as equivalencies in my mind. Even if you're, uh, putting the, the hat on and pirating windows, I still think it's, it's not, the line is different. Um, and if I can spend a little bit of time and get Linux to a great spot and then just use that, I would rather do that than fight something that actively seems to hate me. Um, there's extremely different vibes. Oh, Dan, I have another fun one for you. I don't think this is really like
Starting point is 00:16:20 actionable in any meaningful way but I just thought it was so funny that here let me send this over to you Dan. Let's do a topic really quick that is related to the MacBook Neo and then we'll come back to something really funny. You're going to love this. The Neo has apparently been so popular
Starting point is 00:16:40 that Apple is running out of the A18 Pro binned chips that were not quite iPhone 16 Pro ready but work fine for the less constrained thermal situation in the Neo. Apple reportedly only planned to make 5 to 6 million units with the leftover supply they had and are now scrambling to get more chips. I mean, freaking, how does a, don't take this the wrong way. I mean this in the most respectful way because Apple is a modern day master class in supply chain management and forecasting. How the fuck did Apple think they were only going to sell five to six million units of these things?
Starting point is 00:17:21 I, Joe Schmo, who can't make enough cables to save my life, could have told them triple it. Like, this thing is an absolute game change. And that's probably before the educational institutions have even validated this thing. Like, dude. That's going to be a lot more. How can they not, how could they, this is the kind of thing that I just, I just, I, I find so baffling. Like, remember,
Starting point is 00:17:48 back in the days, when you were always working on, like, some review of some CPU or some GPU, and we'd release our video where we're like, yeah, it's not that good. And then the brand would, they'd call you up or they'd email you and they'd be like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:18:04 And we're kind of sitting here going like, you can run the same, what do you mean? Yeah, you can run the same fucking benchmarks that we can. What are you talking about? And in a lot of cases, okay, this might explain some of it, which is in a lot of those cases,
Starting point is 00:18:15 They did. The technical teams totally understood. Yeah. And it would end up, they would just end up being like, I don't know, it got to marketing. And then they just said some stuff. And like, that's not what we found. And this is like, this is the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. This is like, how could they possibly not have known that they had the product launch of the decade on their hands, at least in the laptop category? Seriously, name a laptop from the last 10 years as impactful. is this one? I am not trying to shill. I don't have an investment in it. I think framework has been very impactful.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I think if you'd said M1 MacBook, I would have accepted that. I still think this takes both of those, though. I think so too, just because of the accessibility. I think both of those are up there for different reasons. Because to me the long-term picture is also really important. This is
Starting point is 00:19:11 not just today. This is a $350 dollar laptop on the second hand market two and a half three years from now that and that and the thing is with its build quality it'll last probably probably gonna be fine yeah like you you kind of had it slip a little bit earlier in the show and it bonked the table yeah whatever part of me like went like oh and then i was like actually it's a tank yeah it's probably it's not gonna care about that at all and like the fact that there's so little battery in it to achieve the kind of battery life that i'm getting it's not class well, it is class leading, but it's not game-changing battery life, especially for a MacBook,
Starting point is 00:19:51 but it's outstanding, especially when you consider the size of that battery. The fact that it's cooling isn't stellar is kind of fun. Yeah. Like Alex's video, just putting the thermal pad over there. Like, that's cool. That makes me want to go mod a laptop. I, um, I've always kind of wondered, um, like, you know how there's laptop docs that are supposed to assist with cooling by just blowing another fan at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:20:15 bottom. Turns out they don't really do that much, at least for any laptops that we've ever tried it with. But I've always kind of wondered if there could be a thermal interface material that's non-goopy sticky enough that you could like, you could add a bit of surface area to something. Like, would that be a good product for LTT store? Just a machined aluminum thing that you sit your MacBook Neo on. Are we on the same wavelength? Did you get this from someone? Did you hear this from someone? Why? You haven't heard this from anybody? From who? So I've been pushing this idea that there is a dock that you put your laptop in that you have to have like almost press it into like a switch two and then uh kind of but flat okay i was thinking flat but however it works yeah um and then
Starting point is 00:20:59 it could like that you know where the usbc is are so if it's machined well enough maybe as you press it in it could like move a lever arm that plugs in USBC or something and it puts it on some type of cooling surface and i was thinking it would be really cool if it was like an actual thermal pad, but they're probably all going to be too goopy. And when you pull it away, it's going to pull some material off of it. So, like, we need some way. And then I kind of came down to, like, what are they called? Basically a piece of metal with one of those, the electrical coolers that create heat on one.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Peltier. Peltiers are cool. Probably not the answer. They're super inefficient. Yeah. Yeah. And you've got to get rid of it. the heat somehow and so you end up with a fan and it ends up see I would want a passive solution for
Starting point is 00:21:51 this and I don't think I would need active cooling I think that as long as I could get more of the I just don't know how you and this is ignorance not impossibility I don't know how you transfer that heat super effectively without goop yeah what my ideal my ideal for something like this because like we've we've dabbled in improving the cooling of passive Apple devices over many, many years. I remember water cooling, the original USBC MacBook back in, what was it, like 2013. In just a tray of water.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Something like that. Yeah, using plasticine or like Play-Doh or something to shield the ports and then just putting it in an ice bath. Yeah. It made a big difference. It made a big difference. It was pretty cool. But ever since then,
Starting point is 00:22:36 I've always felt like the best solution would be something more like a hot, like a hot, cold pack, like a freezer pack. Like some kind of like a bladder that, um, that you could, in a perfect world, you could actually circulate fluid through. So you could like water cool it, but without actually having the water touching it. Well, I think you could. Yeah, probably. I just, we've never, we've never put the development cycles into making something like that. Yeah, because I, because I, I have always adored the idea. Like, I was pissed with the switch one that the doc didn't offer any potential performance
Starting point is 00:23:10 improvements. I have always adored the idea that like it works when you're mobile, but then you can, there's like an incentive to plugging it in that isn't just big screen now. The incentive is like, this is performance mode. I always thought that was really cool. And realistically, yeah, Avians, this probably is an example of the type of device that you could just have a laptop stand with a fan on it and would probably get you 98% of the way there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the idea of like a big machined piece of aluminum with fins in it or something like that that you like, that you put it on in order to get max performance and docma, that's pretty cool. It might make more sense once we get something with an A19 pro, maybe a year, a year and a half from now or something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Anyway, back to our actual topic here. According to Tom's guide, Amazon seems to have the best availability of these things, which matters, because if you're ordering direct from Apple, apparently you're looking at up to four week delays. wild. I got mine from oh man this is kind of unfortunate I got mine from Best Buy um they were totally sold out
Starting point is 00:24:17 on the lower capacity no touch ID model um so got the higher capacity with touch ID model I think that was especially touch ID I think that was a good move because I was ended up being kind of happy about it because touch ID is pretty sweet I have not only
Starting point is 00:24:33 ended up missing touch ID just because it's like convenient and nice but I've noticed that there are some software flows that Apple or their software partners don't seem to have factored in for devices that don't have touch ID so you'll like get prompted to do touch ID and like I don't have one
Starting point is 00:24:53 and it's not like if you search in settings for like touch ID it doesn't just tell you you don't have touch ID like it just if you don't understand that you ordered one that doesn't have touch ID. Okay. That could be confusing to like an average user.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So speaking of confusing to an average user, we didn't know that the, so the touch ID, see how yours has like a power button or a lock button or whatever it is on that key? On the touch ID one, there's no logo. Oh, right, because it's a fingerprint sensor. So we were trying to have her to touch ID and she would press it in. We're like, why the heck does the computer keep going to sleep? We're like trying to do basically anything. And the computer keeps just shutting itself down.
Starting point is 00:25:43 We're like, what is happening? Why is this thing so buggy? And then, yeah, no, it's, we were pressing the power button. That makes sense. What was going to say? Oh, yeah, man, the best way experience, dude. I walk right in, tell them exactly what I want. And they're like, okay, I'll get it from the back.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'll meet you here in a couple minutes. Okay, sounds good. goes and gets it from the back. Like, can I tell you about our service plan thing? And I was like, I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:10 but I'm not getting it. And he was like, okay. And he pitched it to him. And he's like, worse than I even thought, because now it's a subscription instead of a one time buy.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And he keeps going through the details. And I'm like literally just sitting on my phone. Like, I'm not buying this. And it goes on for so long. And every once in a while, I look up for my phone. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:26:29 oh yeah, you can bring it into Geekswatt anytime. and they'll repair it for you. And I'm like, you guys just ship it off, right? And he was like, what? I was like, you're repairing it through a depot. You're not repairing it here, right?
Starting point is 00:26:39 And he's like, yeah, but we give you like a loner laptop while yours is out for repair. I'm just like, wow, that sounds bad. Like, okay, back to my phone. And it was like a long time. Yeah. I mean, let him do his job. No, I did. Yeah, you know, no disrespect to the guy.
Starting point is 00:26:59 You got to do what you got to do. But product, service plans. Yeah. Especially on, yeah, I don't know. So to address the availability shortfall, Apple is reportedly considering asking TSM to restart A18 Pro Production, which is wild. But TSM is apparently already maxed out on its 3-9mmeter process.
Starting point is 00:27:20 So other options that Apple is rumored to be considering are dropping the base model entirely and only selling the higher-end model to hopefully slow down sales. That's not going to do much. even at $700. It's an incredible value. Or accelerating the release timeline of the MacBook Neo 2 with A19 Pro Silicon. Interestingly, the MacBook Air M5 is readily available. But that's probably because it starts at nearly double the price of the cheapest Neo.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So it's not exactly filling the same niche. The Neo is kind of eating Apple's own lunch. But that's what hungry companies do. They eat their own lunch. They compete with themselves. If A-series silicon ultimately makes the lowest-end M-silicon kind of redundant in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:28:09 so what? That's fine. Great. No problem. That sounds fantastic. Apple, like, they're going to get serious market share for MacOS if they can keep up with... This thing destroys.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like, there is no other option that would have been even close to his good for the person... I think it's pretty clear. I bought it for my mom. But I think there's no... There was no other option for her that would have even competed. One thing that has been kind of nice
Starting point is 00:28:33 is on a hunch, I thought it might have been better for because she adapted to iPhone a lot easier than she adapted to Android. iOS and MacOS have so little in common that it's kind of shocking to me. They come from the same company. But widgets on the desktop.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I was off like working on something else for a second and she just like set up a ton of widgets for herself and kind of like organize her desktop the way that she wanted. I was like, okay, cool. that wouldn't have been natural to me at all. And there was one of her apps where the like native app support for MacOS is kind of crap. But when you click on the widget, it just launches, I don't know what it's actually called, but it just launches like her phone on her Mac.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah, screen mirroring. Yeah. And it just launches that up and then she just uses the phone version of the app and it's totally fine. It's like, okay, she figured out all of that on her own. sweet so that that part kind of worked there are a couple things with macOS that weren't entirely intuitive but we ended up figuring it out um and then just the laptop itself like dude if you if you hand this to either of us three months ago or whatever i'd ask how much it costs at least minimum minimum and probably more than that yeah like got him damn okay but here's a funny one dan roll the clip
Starting point is 00:29:58 if I had a nickel for every time this has happened to me I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's funny it's happened twice how dude how is that even possible I don't know how do you do this I don't do anything oh my god
Starting point is 00:30:39 Oh man I don't know how to deal with this anymore It's like I have this reputation I feel for like being a hater You know like complaining that everything's a buggy piece of shit I'm so legitimately happy That it's working great for you But it doesn't change my experience
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's so funny We even installed Steam I'm sure you did Ah man that's really funny Sofa Texas Thank you for getting footage I have some I have a pretty good I have a pretty good footage It's not on this phone
Starting point is 00:31:21 But I have pretty good footage of my screen On my my folding phone Registering clicks offset by about a centimeter as well Like regularly like dude I just I get so much weird I get so much weird stuff here's a fun one and someone I know pulled up their Samsung
Starting point is 00:31:42 was it a Samsung? Ooh, I don't know if it was actually a Samsung but it was a definitely a folding phone and compared Oh, okay, LTT store, we have new stuff We'll get to that in a second. First, let's click on one of these products Uh, oh, what that?
Starting point is 00:31:59 You click so aggressively. Sorry, there you go. I get duplicates of our product photos on our site. Wait. and his folding phone didn't get it that's strange I don't I don't understand I don't know how to deal with this stuff
Starting point is 00:32:15 that might not be a problem for long I don't know if you want to announce that or not but I'll just leave it back I don't know I don't know sure go for it I don't know the new site oh yeah yeah yeah so there's a new LTT store site yeah yeah yeah I think we've
Starting point is 00:32:29 I think we've talked about that okay I have no idea um yeah in like semi classic fashion, development on the old site is not super attractive right now. Oh, I get it. I get it. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. Anyway, we can move on to another topic. You want to pick one? Sure. There's so much good stuff this. Steam one, dude. This is so sick. Steam client files point to frame rate estimator feature in the works.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Data miners were sifting through a recent Steam client file release, and they uncovered references to a new feature called the Frame Rate Estimates. which would let you pick a game, input your CPU, GPU, and RAM. I also suspect eventually if you do the hardware survey, it will just already have that information. Yeah, your OS, your display resolution.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yeah, if you do the hardware thing, yeah. And you can get a chart of expected frame rates based on crowdsource data from other Steam users running similar hardware. The groundwork appears to have been laid two months ago when Valve added an opt-in option in the Steam beta client that let users share anonymized frame rate data initially focused on SteamOS devices like the Steam Deck.
Starting point is 00:33:43 At the time, Valve said that the data was meant to improve game compatibility and Steam performance. Valve has not officially announced the feature, confirmed a release timeline or really anything at all. But yeah, it exists as unreleased code and it sounds awesome to me. This would legitimately, okay, I was about to say in a vendor agnostic fashion, but it's not, it's not vendor agnostic, it's steam, but. They actually technically very specifically now have their own operating system, which really throws that. But for me, this would pretty much address the problem of, you know, minimum requirements and what graphics cards should I get and what CPU. should I get to play this game? This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Should I buy this? And I don't know. I'd like to think that maybe this had something to do with some of the feedback that I gave Valve a little while ago on the Steam hardware survey. It's been about a year. So they've legitimately had time. But basically I said, hey, guys, I love the hardware survey. It's really cool. But there are some aspects of it that are kind of antiquated now.
Starting point is 00:34:57 If the goal is for developers to understand what hardware they should be targeting, And if the other goal is for users to understand what kind of performance they can expect, then only reporting things like the number of cores, the frequency that they run at, and I believe it even, does it cap at quad core? I don't even think it will, don't quote me on that. The granularity is fairly limited from what I remember for core count. And then especially frequency, what I pointed out to them is I gave them examples of CPUs that were released. 10 years apart
Starting point is 00:35:32 that have the same core count and the same frequency but vastly different performance and kind of laid out why we need a little bit better granularity with respect to the generation of the hardware that we're looking at and that would be beneficial to everybody
Starting point is 00:35:51 users, game developers realistically valve themselves and selfishly media who you know, we will often lean on Steam hardware survey data in order to bring the most relevant content. Like, I don't remember a single GPU review scrum that hasn't involved pulling up the Steam hardware survey at some point to just, just to have the right reference points. Like, oh, okay, you know, blah, blah, blah, let's do this, this, this and this.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Holy crap, 6% of people on Steam are running a 3060. We should throw that in just for context so that 5% of the people watching can go, oh, this is how it compares to exactly my GPU right now. That's really important to us. And so I would, I'd like to think that they took that seriously. Realistically, Valve has very smart people working there, and I'm sure somebody thought of it. But you know what? I'm going to give myself 0.1% of the credit.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Anything. Can I get away with that? I don't know. We'll see. If it happens, maybe that credit will have some. value. 0.1%, 1,000th.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Can I get away with it? I can't guarantee anything. I'm looking here and yeah, for CPUs specifically, it's still kind of, yeah. Yep. This is not...
Starting point is 00:37:11 3.7 gigahertz and above, really? And no, we do have exact core count, so that is useful. But the frequency is a major issue in my humble opinion. 2.7% of users. With 24 cores. But I believe that's logical.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So that would be 12-core CPUs, if I recall correctly. Check 30-2. It's physical CPUs. Oh, is that physical? Oh, okay. So those would be thread rippers then, yeah. Really? 3.74% of users are thread rippers?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, that would be Intel 24 course. Yeah, that's Intel. So that would be like 14,900Ks and stuff. Oh. Yeah, eight performance course, 16 efficiency course. Yeah. Oh, see, but even that.
Starting point is 00:38:01 bundling in efficiency cores with physical exactly there's just there's so much more granularity that that we could use to make more informed decisions either way I am I am excited to see Valve build out their tools beyond just their one console for the benefit of
Starting point is 00:38:21 all PC gamers that are using the Steam platform do you need me go back to your laptop well I was interested this is this is certainly too old but I'm really interested what happens to the OSX numbers in the near future. I just think it's funny they still call it OS10.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I don't think it's been called OS10 for like a thousand years. Sure. But I like the the search, oh man, okay, I want to look this up.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Google search history for like running games on Mac. Because these are selling like freaking crazy and they can run a ton of stuff. Like it can run cyberpunk. I was looking up for my dad
Starting point is 00:38:58 to see if it could and it can run snow runner. Like it can actually run a lot of different Random Steam games. It can run cyberpunk.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I played it today. It's not a great experience on it. 15 to 30? Yeah. That's pretty good. It's good for what it is. It's good for what it is. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I'm going to go worldwide. Last, I don't know, sure. 2004 to present. Here we go. Damn. Oh.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Beter. Purp. wait for it way for it ready done dang this is what i'm saying man yep dang so like it's like these laptops matter they're making they're making a huge impact right now and that's going to apply to gamers and which is actually really really interesting for the overall like because when i'm looking at it now for march 2026 windows saw a 4.28% drop in user share. And the vast majority of that went to Linux,
Starting point is 00:40:04 but 1.2% of that went to Mac. And then we have these laptops coming out. And there's the Linux surge seems to be continuing. I see threads about it constantly talking about how people, wow, I haven't used this in few years. I gave it a shot for whatever reason. Maybe it was us. Maybe it was something else.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And it's working right now. Tons of trends about that. And then also these laptops are moving like crazy. And Windows is getting, Windows, at least for gamers, is getting hit on both sides. I think there's a chance that Windows falls below 90. percent of the install base for Steam.
Starting point is 00:40:33 This year? Yeah. Do you think it could happen this year? For sure. I think if Apple had an unlimited... It might happen in the next couple months. If they had an unlimited supply of A18 pros, I would say, yes, I agree 100%. Yeah. If they only have six, seven million of them, then I'm not as sure. I'm not as sure.
Starting point is 00:40:53 But that is wild. That Windows might be less than 90% of... Market share for for for steam that's wait are they going to fall behind like invidia I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be writing a video next week that tentatively is titled the humiliation of Microsoft Windows or Windows is year of humiliation or something something along those lines it might not be the year of the this is not a title but it might not be the year of the Linux desktop but it definitely is the year of Windows humiliation yeah and just kind of talking through how how tenuous how dominant their market share still is, and yet how tenuous their position is becoming, if that makes sense. And I'm going to kind of talk through some of the overall trends that we're observing,
Starting point is 00:41:44 both in the Linux world and the Mac world, and simultaneously amongst Windows users who are just so tired of it, you know? Yeah, it's exhausting. Why don't we jump into... Why don't we pick a good news? news topic. Hey, that's any topic. Nintendo in a shockingly pro-consumer move, like, I did, wow, um, has divorced digital and physical game pricing. Um, the complete quote is from a
Starting point is 00:42:26 game's radar article. And this is, uh, this is a quote. My guess is that is that this is actually them lowering prices of digital games and not raising the price of physical games. That's where I'm at with this. I think generally, no, I don't agree with this part. Nintendo tries to do right by their customers and I think they do also disagree with that. I look at this as a pro-consumer move. I think it's a smart move too. But it does appear to be that Nintendo will be decoupling physical and digital pricing. We don't know that this means that digital pricing is going to go down and all the pricing is going to stay the same. We don't know that.
Starting point is 00:43:01 That is just an assumption. It could be that hardware, that physical game pricing will go up. But given that they already increased pricing for the Switch 2 generation, given that they've allegedly cut production of the Switch 2, my guess is that they're looking at their business. They're looking at their business going, okay, we've got some good titles for Switch 2. They're very expensive. how can we address this in a way that doesn't,
Starting point is 00:43:31 that isn't a price drop, that doesn't devalue our software, which Nintendo never wants to do. But that's kind of what I'm saying, is it would be a price drop. But only on the digital copy. So to me, the way that I'm reading this, and maybe this is hopeful,
Starting point is 00:43:50 good news April Wandshow, Linus, reading it this way. But the way that I'm reading this is that Nintendo is going to be, the first to blink and go, all right, digital is cheaper. And I'm here for it. Or maybe not, maybe not the, maybe not the first to blink. I mean, there's certainly no doubt that you can buy a PlayStation game on sale on the, you know, PlayStation store for cheaper than a physical copy at, you know, GameStop or whatever. I mean, it is pretty cool that I'm like, but Nintendo for the first time going, okay, yeah, it's, it's cheaper online. Yeah. And it always should have
Starting point is 00:44:27 been. Probably. I mean, I think there was maybe an argument in the early days of Steam that this infrastructure was so new and the investment in it was so colossal and the value. And the value of cloud save and the convenience of just downloading it whenever, you know, maybe there was an argument to be made at that time. But I think in the years after that, it's been pretty hard to to justify the price being the same for a digital copy of a brand new title versus a physical copy. Yeah. You can't completely remove all the cost of making the physical copy because there is expense in keeping the infrastructure up of distributing digital copies and stuff like that. But like, man, they are not even sort of close.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Aromene actually brings up another kind of, I don't know about good news, but certainly funny news. Nintendo lost the patent covering character summoning and battle mechanics. Did you see that? Like the, the Pocobal patent? And No Man Sky apparently immediately added the mechanic to the game. They did, yeah. Yeah. Look, my relationship with Nintendo as a brand is deeply complicated.
Starting point is 00:45:42 There's so many things they do. I don't like you and I'll also buy everything you make. That if they were anyone but them, I would just, patently, pun intended, refused to buy anything from them. But on the other hand, like, I don't know of anyone who so lovingly cares for their IPs. With that said, I haven't seen the new Mario movie yet. Many of the reviews I've read of it were very negative. However, however, however, I did my due diligence and I went back and read the same
Starting point is 00:46:20 people's reviews of the first one. And they were also negative, which to me is just an indication that they're probably not a lot of fun at parties. Yeah. And the kind of people that suck the life out of the room because the first one was just fun. Not everything has to be that deep, man. Maybe I just need an excuse to eat popcorn. And if as long as the second one is a good excuse to eat popcorn, I think I'm going to be pretty happy with it. Nice. All right. I want to go see a movie in theaters for the first time in many years. I want to go see Hail Mary. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I want to see that, too. There's actually, there's quite a few kind of interesting movies right now. My son really wants to see goat. I have no idea. Sports movie, but like animated with a goat, like greatest of all time, but also a goat. No, I put that together.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah. Oh my God, is it like this generation's airbud? I don't know exactly what it is, but he's excited about it, which, you know, is cool, I guess. Where's it done by? Sony Pictures Animation. Man, where the heck is Disney?
Starting point is 00:47:32 Yeah. And like all these other, it's, anyway, sorry, we can move on to someone else, but that's his... We can talk about Netflix. Here's a fun one. Netflix. Get owned. Luke and I have talked about this extensively on the WAN show. We've taken, what I feel is not necessarily,
Starting point is 00:47:51 it shouldn't be an exceptional approach to the subscription fees on floatplane. Whatever you agree to when you sign up is our agreement and while technically for some reason, platforms are within their rights to alter the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Starting point is 00:48:14 We've never taken that approach. And it looks like Netflix was just informed that in Italy, You're supposed to do it the float plane way unless you explicitly say that you have the right to do it your way. An Italian court in Rome has ruled that Netflix's subscription price increases between, get this, 2017 to 2024, over a span of seven years, were illegal under the country's consumer code, which requires companies to provide a stated, justified reason before raising prices. Netflix now has 90 days to notify its roughly 5.4 million Italian subscribers of their right to a refund or face a 700-year-daily fine.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Lawyers for the Consumer Group, Movimento Consumatorio, sorry, I'm sure I butchered that, estimate that premium subscribers who have been paying since 2017 are entitled to roughly 500 euros each. Whoa. While standard subscribers are owed about 250 years. That's like, that's like, tidy little tax return territory. Yeah. Like that's not, that's not pocket change. That's freaking crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:32 That's go get yourself something nice. If every eligible, unfortunately. If every eligible subscriber claims this, Netflix's total liability could exceed $2.3 billion. On top of the refunds, the court ordered Netflix to roll monthly prices back to the 2015 launch levels. 1199 euros
Starting point is 00:49:51 for premium, 999 euro for standard. Sounds like a lot of people are going to be VPNing to Italy. Netflix says it will appeal and insists that its terms have always complied with Italian law, but the ruling could have a knock-on effect
Starting point is 00:50:04 across Europe. Consumer groups in Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, and Poland have filed parallel challenges on the same legal basis, and German courts in Berlin and Cologne have already struck down the same Netflix pricing clauses. Now it is worth noting that Netflix has updated their terms of service now and any price changes that they implement going forward will be legal from my understanding of it. That's not
Starting point is 00:50:28 on our notes, but that is my understanding of it from just my own reading before. But this is still a pretty nice little, yeah, a nice little W for consumers in Italy who are tired of, you know, getting squeezed on every freaking stupid subscription service under the sun, just casually, casually raising prices all the time. It's good news WAN shows, so this isn't one of the topics for this week, but YouTube had a premium subscription increase that, you know, just, I don't know, it's that premium subscription increase. Like last time, they say it's to improve the service, and like last time, it seems to be
Starting point is 00:51:10 more aligned with just general inflation. and less aligned with any kind of meaningful improvement in the service. So make of that whatever you will. I still, even at the new price, I still think YouTube Premium is one of the best bang for the buck subscriptions out there. YouTube is full of incredible content. I'd like to think like you're watching right now. I use it so much that it's worth it to me still.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And the fact that it includes YouTube music, which I find to be a perfectly cromulent music streaming service. It's fine. And the fact that you can get it on a family plan for a deep discount and share it with up to five family members. It's just, it's a great, it's a great value. It's an outstanding value. All right, you want to pick one?
Starting point is 00:51:54 Oh, wait, no. Oh, I'm good. Oh, oh, oh, guys, guys, pull up the store, right. We have a very exciting launch on LTT store this weekend. It is the Flex and Flow collection. The first item, from this collection is our multi-pocket leggings.
Starting point is 00:52:18 They're finally here. We started development of LTT, I don't want to call them yoga pants, but they're yoga pants. LTT leggings like, I don't know, three years ago or something like that. I am constantly reminded of this project because Yvonne loves her prototype one so much
Starting point is 00:52:41 that I fold them every week, even though we never actually made the product. So you're going to get more now? They're just like the leggings that, you know, you could get at one of the other stores that sell these leggings. Let's be real, right? Except they've got seven total pockets. Two on the thighs for your phone
Starting point is 00:53:03 and five in the waistband for your smaller stuff so you can actually carry your things without needing a bag. The fabric is soft, breathable, and moisture wicking. with Lycraest bandacks for great stretch and shape retention, so you can wear them for workouts, errands, or just all day. People in the office have been really excited about these, and they've already been wearing them to Pilates, Tennis, and just around the house.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You can now get yours at LMG.G slash leggings. And I'm going to take a moment to kind of go, hey, are women viewers out there? We hear you loud and clear. You've been disappointed with the assortment of women's products on LTT store. Here's your chance to help us invest in this category.
Starting point is 00:53:50 This is a great product. Whether you wear leggings or not, spread the word, or wait, wait for a few reviews to come in and then spread the word. It's a really good product. It is, I would say, up to or at the top of our game in terms of how quality this product is.
Starting point is 00:54:09 If you want to see more women's products, you're going to have to buy some. There's also, I saw people in Fulpin chat earlier asking about like, oh, I fit whatever size from whatever brand. Yes. Will I fit these ones? There is a size guide. So right here, some people don't see it because it's just like hyperlinked text. But under the sizes on pretty much every product on the store, there's a size guide.
Starting point is 00:54:37 You can click it. And it will be, yeah, a lot of like the. the pictures and stuff are generic, but this grid will be for the specific product. So you can see your inseam length, your hip width, your pants, blah, blah, waist, relaxed, whatever or something, and all your sizes that go along with that. Yep. Very important. All right. These ones are for the guys. These are great. The flex pants. They're kind of inspired by like mountain biking pants. So they are built to move. We've got reinforced knees, a gusseted fit, and a stretchy waistband with a do not drop draw cord that can be
Starting point is 00:55:15 tied on the outside or the inside. And they've also got seven pockets, six with YKK zippers so you can carry basically everything and not worry about anything falling out. They're really comfortable. They, uh, in like a weird way, like they're not soft. They're like, um, shear. Oh, here. Right. I don't really know how to describe them. They're like, uh, Oh, interesting. Yeah. And they're on the inside. They're like, uh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I don't know how to describe them. I can see that being nice, but I understand what you mean by that being a little bit. Yeah, so kind of like, um, kind of like some of the French Terry hoodies. Like they're, they're soft, but they don't sit like right on your skin. So they're not super warming. It's also not like Terry at all, though. I don't want someone to hear that and get the, the, the effect is like that. Where it's, it kind of, it kind of holds off your skin a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:10 so it makes it feel more breathable but still not cold like it's still you know I don't know it's a really cool garment sure do they fit you I don't think they would
Starting point is 00:56:22 because these are a small no the the in seam length on all of them is 29 sorry these are not and tall yeah it's pretty normal to have a 32
Starting point is 00:56:32 but okay all right so those are those are pretty exciting new products and now's a great time to order one because if you're new to the WAN show then I'm about to explain the coolest thing
Starting point is 00:56:46 about the one. It's not the coolest thing but it's a cool thing about the WAN show. Instead of like other streams just throwing your money at the screen and like I don't know hoping Senpai notices you or something we don't do Twitch bits or super chats or anything like that
Starting point is 00:57:02 we do checkout messages so if you want to send a message all you got to do is head to LTTStore.com add something to to your cart and when we are live you will see the interface to send a checkout message. You pick your color, you fill in your checkout message, you can be anonymous or show your first and last name, and once you place your order, it will either go up there, it'll just pop up up like, thanks Richie P over there. Oh no, it'll go to producer Dan, who will pop it up like that,
Starting point is 00:57:31 reply to it or curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Should we do a couple curated ones to show the folks how it works? Yeah, sure. I got lots here already. Thanks for enabling my wife to get some high-quality active wear. As for my question, what's the worst part of dealing with asbestos removal? The price. Besides the price. Was that in the checkout message?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. I thought that's why you jumped in with that. No, the worst part is the price. Nothing worse? It's not the asbestos getting into your lungs and giving a mess of your reopening way? Well, that's the thing. is I didn't do that. I paid someone to do it. So the worst part is the price. I mean, I'd say my bigger concern when I was crawling around in the basement was like mold, not asbestos.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like if I, if I end up with some kind of weird mold lung disease or something like that, it's definitely from doing that. But I don't think there was really anything in the way of asbestos down there. And I didn't really disturb anything. Like I didn't, I didn't break any, I didn't like touch any cocking or like break any like break any materials apart or anything. I just like hauled like soggy carpet and stuff out of there. Okay up next. Just finished
Starting point is 00:58:47 a computer vision project for school. What is a project that felt super rewarding after completing? Ooh. I have a pretty critical version of that which is the mineral oil computer. That thing got me everything. It got me grants to go to school. It got me friends when I was at school, and it got me this job. That was a highly rewarding project.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Nice. Really worked out. Yeah, that's, I'm not going to be able to beat that. Hiring Luke. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Is that a present project? Let's go for the feels. It was a long interview. It was a very long interview. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. A project that felt super rewarding.
Starting point is 00:59:35 You know what? I'm not going to go with like the most rewarding, but I'll go with one that was quite rewarding recently. I bought a couple of RC cars for me and my son back when he was, well, it was like 10 years ago, so he was just little, and I was probably jumping the gun a little bit. We didn't use them much and they sat for 10 years. And in that time, all the differential fluid leaked out,
Starting point is 00:59:58 all the shock oil leaked out, the batteries like died died like not just were drained they they died and um there were some broken parts on them from the little that they were used because i was reckless and he didn't know really how to control it because he was just a little kid and over the last few weekends we've worked together we learned how to strip apart reseal and uh fill a diff on an rc car we fixed up the shocks we replaced a bunch of like broken pieces and then um with everything repaired we went out made like a makeshift ramp and uh we're playing around with it last weekend it was super cool after two races around the yard i crossed the pool cover with some water pooled on it
Starting point is 01:00:49 burn my motor so um we're not quite there on the reward on this project yet but we're we're getting there we're getting there because it was really fun working on it though because you're working on repairing it with your son, which is, like, so valuable. Yeah, he's learning a little bit. Really cool. We, we had to 3D, we had to make, like, design and print some 3D printed parts in order to finish the repair because it was like... Did he, like, leave that portion?
Starting point is 01:01:14 Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's kind of cool. Oh, yeah. I got to show him how to use calipers, you know? Just, I don't know, just father's son's stuff, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's sweet. Yeah, it's good stuff. I like that.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I like that. Should we do one more down? Oh, no, we're not. We're doing two more topics. You can do one more if you want. Nope. I don't want to. We'll do it later.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Good. Go-bye. Hey, let's talk about Lané de Linux. The French government is apparently accelerating plans to reduce reliance on extra European software in an effort to achieve digital sovereignty. And when I say extra European, I don't mean super-duper European. I mean outside of European, like extracurricular, like that sort of extra. Workstations at Dinam, D-I-N-U-M, the French government's digital agency will be the first to be moved to an as-yet-unnamed Linux distribution.
Starting point is 01:02:09 My notes say, insert Holy War here. Yeah. And other departments, including the National Cybersecurity Agency, will be following suit. Okay, all right, let's start it. I already, okay, hold on. I know my answer. I know my answer. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Hold on, hold on. I'm going to go with, um, okay, go ahead. Hold on, hold on. Mandriva, I think that was it. Mandriva, Medriva, I don't know how to pronounce it. I looked up, I was looking up distros before the show.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I was like, are there distros that are either popular in France or largely maintained by French maintainers? That's hack. You can't search stuff. I had to just guess. All right, fine. Well, I don't know. It could still definitely be wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I have no clue. I think they're going to be based and they're actually going to roll their own. They wouldn't be the first government to do that. And I think it's going to be based on Arch. Mandrivus or Medea or something. Can you just show me this word? No. What is this?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Oh. M-A-G-E-I-A. I'm not any closer than you. Magyaya? Sure. Something. I don't know. I read something.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah, that's the successor, whatever. I don't know. Classic Linux stuff. It's not Mangaro. I can say that. I have no idea what it will be. If you look at user-based installs, it's very likely that it will be, you know, Debian-based or arch-based.
Starting point is 01:04:06 People are suggesting names for a French government own-role Linux distra. We've got Baguette OS. We've got... Distro of Liberty. Linux Arch de Triumph. We've got... Distro de Liberté. Bastie OS.
Starting point is 01:04:25 That's pretty good. That one's pretty good. I like that. I'm liking a lot of these. I'm liking a lot of these. Lebonneau. That is pretty good. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:04:44 That's fun. Yeah, I kind of hope. I wouldn't mind Sacri Boone, too. I hope they don't roll their own, or if they do roll their own, I hope there's a lot of up-the-chain development that happens. I just, man, we don't need more fragmentation. Oh, my God. No, we don't need it, but it just seems like the kind of thing that would happen.
Starting point is 01:05:09 If you look at the Steam Hardware Survey... In regards to distros that are like on the more simple and easy side of things, Mint has a lot of install base. I don't suspect they're going to end up going there. My guess would be that they don't end up on Mint. But we'll see. I could see Red Hat. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Something with actual Red Hat, Fedora. Like real support grunt behind it. Totally. Yep. That would probably make the most sense. Something on that line. being said by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, but still, Red Hat is American, though.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah, that might be fair. I'm not sure if it matters as much. I don't think it matters as much, but there's still a company behind it, and that company's in the States, right? Zusei is an open, Zusei is more European-centric and still very well-supported and storied distro as well.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That could get it. Yeah, I think the origin there, is German. Don't quote me on that. That could definitely get it though. That's interesting. I don't know, but it's exciting. And there is a question here.
Starting point is 01:06:19 We've seen similar programs elsewhere in Europe with the city of Munich's Le Mooks project running from 2003 to 2017 before they ultimately decided to reverse course. Do you think France's efforts will be successful? And I think they actually could be. the difference between I know I've said this probably every WAN show for a month but the difference between
Starting point is 01:06:44 the last time we did the Linux challenge and now is genuinely mind-blowing. Astronomical. Whoa! Linux Mint has a French founder. Really? Someone in chat just said it.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I don't know if it's true or not, but someone in chat just said it. If that's true, if there's a chance that it's mint, that would be so sick. That would be so cool. You are actually rooting.
Starting point is 01:07:09 for distros like a Linux dude now. No, I'd just be happy. You clapped. You clapped. Happy little claps. That is the definition. Happy little claps. That is the definition. I'm genuinely happy with whatever they go with.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I don't actually care. But it would be neat if it was mint. I just, I'm not a, I'm not a hater of other choices, but I get a little happy when when people use mint. Because mint is cool. Speaking of Linux, patches to the Linux kernel and KDE should. give a noticeable performance boost to gamers with limited V-RAM,
Starting point is 01:07:44 which in 20206, huge deal. Apparently includes cards that have only 8 gigabytes of dedicated memory, and that really has been a trend over the last couple of years. Developer Natalie Vok has refined kernel-level memory management
Starting point is 01:08:01 and introduced a KDE plasma component to enable V-RAM prioritization for the foreground application, i.e. your full-screen game. The patches are out now, initially for AMD, and theoretically Intel, on cacheOS, and on other arch-based distros. If you don't use KDE as your desktop, the improvements are also available in newer versions of Valve's GameScope Compositor. If you're after the technical details, you can check out the developer's blog post, which... Dan will not be posting in chat, so you'll just have to go Google Pixel Clusters GPU blog.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I can post it in floatplay chat at least Thank you Luke That's wonderful I appreciate you Excellent It says two more topics And we're through two more But until he comes back
Starting point is 01:08:53 We're not Oh you know what Yeah we'll do sponsor spots Oh wait I can't I can't with it down I did have some people ask like Oh why are you so happy about Mint If you're running Cashi
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm running Cashi on my desktop PC For the modern Cashie and KDE On my desktop PC For modern features and performance And power and rock and I'm running mint on my laptop for simplicity and stability and work every time this. And that's why I would expect a government to go more on the mint side than a cashy side.
Starting point is 01:09:21 But I do think there's plenty of other solutions that would make a ton of sense, Fedora, Red Hat, things like that being among them. Maybe not Red Hat again because the American company thing and that being like the whole goal of what they're trying to get away from. I don't think it's the same as using Windows, but they'll probably still not go that route. I've got a microtopic. This one isn't so much good news as it is hilarious. Reddor underscore underscore RT underscore underscore posted a couple of screenshots showing an AI summary
Starting point is 01:09:52 with some facts about the company that acquired us nine days ago on April the first FOMO Foundry. This is great. So apparently my browser thinks that FOMO Foundry is a real thing. FOMO Foundry is an entity that acquired Linus Media Group in April 26, pivoting the tech media company toward a product-first strategy that replaced its writing and engineering departments with AI tools like chat GPT and proprietary large language models.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Following the acquisition, LNG, launched the Linus coin, a physical token minted from defective screwdriver parts, which serves as a digital credit with a two to one redemption rate to maintain financial solvency. How could anything be so accurate and yet so fundamentally wrong? Yeah. We did it. We did it. We did it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 We bamboozled. What is this? Is this Gemini then? Yeah. It looks like Gemini to me. What's goggles? is this i just don't want to get this wrong wait what is goggles i don't know yeah my browser thinks so this this is it's some lLM somewhere um so what seems to have happened here um is that dns
Starting point is 01:11:25 records indicate that phomo dash foundry dot com was registered march 17th of this year so it's possible that the ai is conflating that network o s with our new corporate overlords or it's also possible that it just ain't that deep and it's easily confused. If you're wondering, by the way, we did register FOMOFoundary. It's not Gemini. Yeah, so it's something. We bamboozled something. So we did register FOMOFoundary.A.I.
Starting point is 01:12:00 But you'll have to try it for yourself to see where it goes. We worked on that for a while. It's pretty good. I actually I think the developers who worked on that aspect of the April Fool's joke are the unsung heroes of this whole endeavor So it was like actually a lot of effort
Starting point is 01:12:18 And so few people went to it And like Won't necessarily have legs But we worked on it for a while I know It's a good team And like to be clear The physical merchandise team
Starting point is 01:12:28 They did a lot of work Getting the coin design did a lot of work Getting the coin going The video production guys They did a lot of work bringing the whole video together. Elijah died for this project. That's true.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That was unfortunate, but... That still might not equal the effort. But FOMOFoundry.A.I. I think was more effort than all of those things combined. Like Elijah's parents raising him for over 20 years, I still... Pails in comparison. Don't think equaled how hard the developers worked on FOMOFoundary.A.I.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. Yeah. But they'll be remembered by us. I mean, I'm never going to give them up. Yeah. Or let them down. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Skoda develops a bike bell that can bypass, speaking of bells, that can bypass noise canceling headphones. And then gives the technology away for free, which is awesome. This is so base. This is so cool. It sounds really cool, too. Skoda has developed the Duo Bell, a bicycle bell engineered to cut through active noise-canceling headphones, which is a major problem right now because tons of people have them. They've become very normal. In collaboration with researchers at the University of Salford, the car company points to a 24% rise in bike pedestrian collisions in 2024, partially blamed on the explosion of ANC headphones drowning out traditional bells.
Starting point is 01:14:03 researchers found a narrow safety gap between 750 and 780 hertz where ANC algorithms struggle to suppress sound. So the bell rings at that exact pitch. It's a range, but whatever. A second resonator at a higher frequency keeps it sounding like a normal bike bell. And an irregular striking mechanism produces sharp sound bursts that ANC processing can't really react. to in time. The whole thing is fully mechanical with zero electronics. That's the coolest part.
Starting point is 01:14:39 That's so cool. Also just so awesome. And in real world, in real world tests with deliveroo couriers in London, which I'm assuming is like, I don't know. Like Uber eats or something. Uber.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I actually don't know. Pedestrians with ANC headphones detected the duo bell from up to 22 meters further away than a normal bell. That's awesome, giving cyclists a critical extra reaction. window and a pretty decent one. Dude, 22 meters in the context of like traffic movement, that's... That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:13 That's huge. That's life saving. Yeah. That's so cool. Skoda. Okay. Thank you. Cool.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Neat. Skoda is publishing all the research and findings publicly for free so other manufacturers can build their own versions. Fitting, given that Skoda, actually started out making bicycles 130, years ago before it ever built a car. That is so cool. Our discussion question is, when's the last time a car company did something this genuinely useful for cyclists and pedestrians without trying to lock it behind a patent?
Starting point is 01:15:51 I can't think of anything. There's got to be something at some point, but yeah, I have no idea. What this reminded me of was the seatbelt. Wasn't the seatbelt something like this? Somebody invented it and then made it free for everybody. Yeah. but I don't know if that helps pedestrians you know what that's pretty based
Starting point is 01:16:07 Volvo and seatbelts yeah that was that was very cool no I'm down with it you know what let's go let's go shout out Volvo then yeah I mean to the extent that the original Volvo even still exists as a car manufacturer that what I'm just I'm just saying who knows I'm just saying well no like they're owned by uh who owns Volvo yeah gile I mean everybody's as far as I can tell basically everybody's been sold to somebody since back then. No at all. VW is still
Starting point is 01:16:36 VW. They're out there Ford, still Ford. For better for us. That's something. You know what else is something? Our sponsor, Vessie. Yeah. The weather's looking a little nicer out there, isn't it? Which means
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Starting point is 01:17:56 U-Green recently released their MaxiDoc Thunderbolt 5 docking station, which sports 17. whole ports all in one hub. 17. This allows you to clean up your workspace since this one box can be used for data transfer, video input, networking, storage, and even just charging. Sorry, did I hear that right? Video input? I think you mean like for daisy chaining video.
Starting point is 01:18:24 That can't be a capture card. It includes a built-in NVME slot. Oh, that's cool. For you to add additional high-speed storage to cut down on the time you might be waiting to, I don't know, edit your. 4K videos or whatever else, or just to have more storage because a lot of Macs are not that expandable. The Maxidoc can also support three independent displays on Windows or two on Mac, making it great for presentations. The dock gives up to 240 watts of power so you can charge multiple
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Starting point is 01:19:39 Huh. If you've watched any LTT videos in the last six to seven months, David has been an unsung hero in probably at least one of them, as he has been really helping out the writers in their push to getting especially some of the more technical aspects of things over the line. This week's float plane exclusive has him building a PC for Red Bull showcasing scripts for setting up our PCs and being part of the do writers
Starting point is 01:20:06 at LTT all think the same video. You can go check that out at at LMG.g.gg slash FPWAN. Let's see what people are thinking of this video so far. Yeah, people are liking it. Pretty cool. He is aware of many, many, many hats. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:29 More topics. Uh, yeah, there's, uh, one I want to jump into. Sure. Uh, where to go. It's on the dock. So, Samsung Electronics Fires first shot and departure from Arm. Develops proprietary SSD controller based on open source risk five. It's happening.
Starting point is 01:20:52 More risk news. It's happening. Risk is good. Samsung is launching its BM 9K1. Uh, cool. Uh, SSD. line up with a custom in-house controller chip built on the open source Risk 5 architecture, marking the first time Samsung has shipped a commercial product using Risk 5 instead of Arm.
Starting point is 01:21:13 The move lets Samsung skip Arms licensing fees and customize the chip however it wants, which is especially relevant given Arm's recent legal fight with Qualcomm over chip design changes. Samsung says the new design is 1.6 times faster. That does not mean your SSD will be 1.6 times faster, to be clear. But still, that's very cool. And 23% more energy efficient. That does not mean your entire SSD will be 23% more energy efficient, but it's still cool, than the previous generation. Samsung is following Western Digital, which has been using its own Risk 5 chips in SSD controllers for years.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And Samsung has played around with Risk 5 and other projects since 2019, but never shipped anything until now. The BM 9K1 is set to launch in 2027, and that is awesome, because any commercial products that ship with risk. on them just makes it more normal. To be clear, arm is also risk, but he means risk five. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I have a theory. It's just a theory. That's not trademarked. And he's retired. Nope, he's retired. A computer theory? Sure, a computer theory. I have a computer theory.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I have a theory that as long as the transition took between X-86 and arm or not even transition because they're very much still coexisting today but as long as that took i think risk five's rise will be at most a third of the amount of time we're going towards a very interesting future because with the like mind-shared divestment that's happening from Microsoft and Windows right now of people interested in Mac and people interested in Linux and just kind of moving off of off of that. And hardware just getting a little funky. Like pricing has been really crazy. A lot of Chinese manufacturers are starting to kind of prop up and look at that consumer market and go, we might be able to take some of that, especially if pricing is going to be
Starting point is 01:23:24 2,000% higher than it used to be. Companies, like more and more companies, I'm finding discussions about Risk 5 to be much more common these days, and it was even three, four years ago. There's, you know, Google making their own stuff, Intel, interested in being a fab,
Starting point is 01:23:46 potentially more than even their own like, speaking of Intel, I had this queued up already. I don't give financial advice on this show, but if you bought Intel when I said that I thought it was looking kind of cool and laid out all the reasons I thought it was kind of cool in the medium to long term, you're doing pretty good so far. I don't know, man, it's real tempting sometimes
Starting point is 01:24:11 when I can just kind of like see the tea leaves and I'm like, this is the direction. me being invested in Intel would be pretty bad though that would be pretty bad anyway yeah yeah so it's like it's interesting a lot of things are moving towards like actually genuinely moving towards open source setups for things um which is very based interesting it's cool I don't know what that future necessarily looks like probably a lot of fragmentation, but I think it'll be fun. I'm excited. Okay. Next topic.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Stay the Path says, yeah, that'd almost be as bad as like the president of the United States shilling a ticker or like a crypto or an Ft or something. You know what? You're right. I think that if it's their own name, I think they have to. That would never happen. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's pretty far-fetched. I wouldn't want to live in a world that's so corrupt that the politicians at the highest level would shill stocks and also almost as bad
Starting point is 01:25:26 YouTubers would do it I don't want to live in that world almost almost as bad speaking of far-fetched Apple approves drivers that let AMD and Nvidia EGPUs run on Mac okay I was so excited when I read
Starting point is 01:25:43 that much of it carry on yeah it gets a little worse the software is designed for AI though and not built for gaming. Apple has officially signed off on those drivers. The drivers are developed by Tiny Corp, the company behind the Tiny Box AI Accelerator, and Apple's approval means users no longer need hacky workarounds
Starting point is 01:26:03 like disabling system integrity protection to get EGPUs running. This is specifically for AI workloads, not for gaming. The drivers are built for running large language models, so if you were hoping to plug a GPU into your Mac and fire up games, That's unfortunately not in the cards. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding Ding solid.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Tiny Corp first got an EGPU working on Apple Silicon back in May 2025. That was not me by the way. That was the writer. Back in May 2025. But that required unofficial methods. Now with Apple's blessing, installation is straightforward.
Starting point is 01:26:41 For context, Tiny Corp sells some serious AI hardware. Their lineup ranges from a $12,000 box with four, AMD 9070 XTs all the way up to a $65,000 system running for RTX Pro 6,000 Blackwell GPUs. The reason that this is in Good News Wandshow, I feel like I should explain that. It's still good. It's still good. Is that this is the first sign of a potential future thaw in the frosty relationship between Apple
Starting point is 01:27:17 and Nvidia. I would love to see at some point, you know, I think asking for an Nvidia GPU baked onto Apple Silicon in a multi-dye package, that's probably unrealistic. But I'd love to see a future where I could hook an Nvidia EGPU up to my MacBook Neo 3 or MacBook Neo 4 and run serious games off of an iPhone CPU. be sweet and invidia's down we know this because they actually went and did the work and made a driver and this was a number of years ago
Starting point is 01:27:56 and apple intentionally blocked it from working ever since bump gate things have been frosty between the two but I just I feel like both of them have come so far and been so successful that
Starting point is 01:28:13 you would think it would be time to bury the hatchet, you know? Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Maybe when pigs fly and, you know, me and gamers nexus makeup and kiss. I had a segue plan for the next topic, and it's gone. I have no idea what it was. I have genuinely no clue. How's that for an image in your mind?
Starting point is 01:28:47 His hair just draught. wiping around your face. Hey, what makes you think I would be on the bottom? So many things. I feel like he would, yeah. Keycron has made their keyboard and mice designs. Source available, allowing anyone to design or 3D print parts for their devices. This is so cool.
Starting point is 01:29:16 They published a GitHub repository containing production grade CAD files for 83 of keyboard and mouse models. Files are available in step for 3D CAD work, DXF for 2D plate cutting, and DWG for engineering drawings, meaning that owners can 3D print enclosures, C&C replacement plate, even in a new material like brass or carbon fiber, or design their own mods without reverse engineering any of the measurements. Despite widespread reporting, though, calling this open source, Kikron founder Nick Zhu has clarified it's actually source available. So personal builds, hobby projects, and educational use are fine, but commercial use is strictly prohibited, and you can't use the files to manufacture or sell competing products.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Kikron had already published QMK and ZMK firmware source for many of its boards, so this adds the physical hardware dimension to an already pretty open stack. They are miles ahead of basically every other keyboard and mouse brand as far as this goes, who all seem to treat physical geometry as proprietary and lock it away. I got to say, this is admirable. I don't know if I would be able, I don't know if I would have the stones to follow this step. This is incredibly cool. Now, this is for discontinued products, and so I'm kind of, I'm trying to think, like,
Starting point is 01:30:39 screwdriver is one that we've had people ask for the CAD for. And I think upon request, we've provided the outside dimensions. but we have never provided the drawings for the entire thing. I think if you're a manufacturing shop in wherever, and you want to rip off their keyboard, I think you can take it apart and figure those things out. Like I think at like deep commercial level, you could already steal it from them.
Starting point is 01:31:12 So I think there's probably some amount of recognition there and them just being like, hey, the people who wanted to rip this off already could have, and we can be really cool guys to a lot of the people that just want to do good things with this. So, I mean, it sounds like a great move to me, and I don't really think they're setting themselves up for anything super horrible. No, I don't think so. I just don't know if I have the stones. It's so unconventional. And maybe someday, maybe this is the first step in a move like this becoming conventional.
Starting point is 01:31:44 That'd be cool. and um pretty sick i'll have to do some reflection on it you know maybe someday deity willing i could be this based um speaking about things that are based dear like like john deer that dear yeah like go f*** yourself and i'm not i'm not calling them based to be clear no they're really not just happened to them is is good and i don't know enough about this case to say that this was enough, but I'm happy that something happened that they are probably not happy about. Deer Settles U.S. Right to Repair Lawsuit agrees to $99 million fund for farmers. Couldn't make it one more, just make it 100, but I guess that's fine. They put that into a settlement fund
Starting point is 01:32:30 to resolve the 2022 class action lawsuit that accused the company of monopolizing repair services and conspiring with authorized dealers to force farmers to use them for tractor and equipment fixes. The fund covers farmers who paid Deer or its authorized dealers for large agricultural equipment repairs dating back to January of 2018. More importantly, and this is where I got actually excited. Deer has committed to providing the digital tools, software, and manuals needed to diagnose and repair its tractors, combines and sugar cane harvesters for the next 10 years on a license... I only read the first half on a license or subscription base. formalizing a memorandum that had previously existed but was never legally binding license or subscription basis
Starting point is 01:33:19 Ah, that feels like that's going to be abused horribly This is better than them having it under lock and key Yeah, because because it just gets pirated immediately I was a going to say anything that exists on a license or subscription basis Exists on the high seas Yeah, yeah hopefully that gets on the high seas like immediately Deere insists the settlement comes with with no admission of wrongdoing. But right to repair advocates are calling it a landmark win
Starting point is 01:33:49 that could set precedence for similar cases against automakers and consumer tech companies and hopefully it does. Our discussion question is, Deer had to be dragged through four years of litigation and a $99 million settlement to let farmers fix their own tractors. How many other industries are running the same playbook?
Starting point is 01:34:09 Oh, tons of them. Most importantly, I think, is in medicine. Like the fact that fixing people is also bound by these same douchebaggery moves. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying it should just be a free-for-all. Because when something is so important that it keeps a person alive, I am not saying that just any random schmuck should necessarily be working on it with any random schmuck parts. But there's got to be a middle ground. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:43 There's got to be a middle ground. Yeah. I can tell you from experience that aviation has some of this nonsense in it. My uncle showed me a light bulb, a little incandescent bulb. I should bring it in. I'll bring it in maybe next week if I remember. But it's about this big. I think I get it for aviation, because if you're...
Starting point is 01:35:01 Totally average size. Light bulb this size. It's $20 because you can only get it from DESO directly. No one else is allowed to make it. And it's the only one that's certified. that you can put it behind like a little illuminated switch in a dashboard. It's like freaking ridiculous. I just don't want people with big shiny metal objects in the sky
Starting point is 01:35:22 to necessarily have an easier time when it could result in that big shiny metal object smacking into somebody. And, but I mean, that's the, oh, man, see, that's the dangerous sort of territory that we end up in because that's the kind of justification that's given for locking things down. So I'm just saying there's got to be a middle ground. Yeah. And with something like tractors, it seems pretty obvious because the only person who could be harmed by it not operating correctly is the operator of it. So at least by fixing it yourself and doing your own thing to it, it's your own liability that you are ultimately created.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah, and it's sticky because I very much support right to prepare when it comes to cars. And cars has a similar problem to the plane. I think I'm just a lot less worried about protecting people who own planes than I am protecting people who own cars. I think you're just worried that, you know, if anything bad happened to me, that you'd be sad. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know what I'm worried about, though? Is that the flat earthers are going to have a field day with how good those photos of the solar eclipse look from Arndus II.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Oh, man. They look almost too good to be real. Do you want to fire it up while I just talk through the thing? The full NASA gallery is based on. go there. The Artemis 2 crew took a bunch of photos of the moon during their lunar flyby, and the images look like something out of Asimov's foundation series. So honestly, even some of the ones sort of inside the ship, like, that is such a sick
Starting point is 01:36:56 photo, dude. Absolutely. This is about as based as a photo can be. While there isn't yet a moon base. This is probably the coolest photo of someone taking a photo. But, okay, we get to real ones. You can download these. they are really high-res, fantastic background bait for people who want to make cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Some of these are just, yeah, wow. Isn't that incredible? Okay, that one to the right there? This one? No, left left. Yeah. Oh, I love this one. That is so just like, OLED-friendly background.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Yeah. Wow. I mean, there's a little bit too much contrast along the bottom left, but still Oh, that's so cool There's a recreation of the iconic Earthrise photo from Apollo 8 It's this, yeah Hold on, this one They're very similar
Starting point is 01:38:00 I mean, they were taking, they were taking a lot of photos They were taking a lot of photos This one specifically called out, is it? But yeah Here's an eclipse shot It's so good So cool So good
Starting point is 01:38:14 Oh man the moon in nighttime is visible in the background as the sun is setting on the opposite side the image captures the beginning of a total solar eclipse that astronauts were able to observe at the end of their lunar observation period it's just it's just the the write-ups are just exactly what was happening and yet they sound so cool commander reed wiseman told mission control it was a surreal experience
Starting point is 01:38:43 and said he'd need to invent new adjectives because no existing words could describe what they were seeing out the window. NASA has shared the full metadata for the photos to prove that they are real, unprocessed captures from the Orion capsule. They're not renders. They're not composites. Just breathtaking photos. And yet, I firmly believe... Photos of a set! I firmly believe that because they look too good,
Starting point is 01:39:09 someone out there will believe they are fake. Sponsored by Blender. I believe that they're real and I, I, firmly believe that I don't care because I choose to live in a world where it is real and that is more interesting and more fun and more exciting. It was, I, I, I, I, I made the mistake of watching a small amount of a reaction video of someone watching a stream of some flat earthers watching the launch and like talking about how they were faking it and um taking the launch like fake yeah of course because just go because a rocket launch has
Starting point is 01:39:52 to be fake if if the earth is you know flat and stuff you can see it from so far away and you can go not that far away dude they start talking about like how many camera angles there are and how many cuts there are to conceal like the i don't know the set or like the fakeness of it they they cut that it's like you know how many camera angle cuts there are in a soccer game? Does that mean nobody has ever played soccer? What are you even talking about? Like it's watching these people twist themselves into mental gymnastic pretzels to continue to believe something that is just so obviously not true.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Like you can just... Do you think any of its bait? I wish it was. Like some of it's got to be bait. Some of it. I'm sure there's also people. Here's the thing. That believe it.
Starting point is 01:40:49 If the influencers are all, are 100% of them. If 100% of them are grifters. Dude, my NASA paycheck came in. Sure. So if 100% of the influencers in the space are grifters, then if nobody actually believed it, who would be following them then? Like I'm saying even if the people who are most active in, propagating the conspiracy theory are in on it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Obviously, somebody's not, because they wouldn't be watching this. So I can't accept... But you watched it. No, I watched someone watching it to make fun of it. But I think there's a lot of people that will rage watch stuff like that. Okay, I'm going to say something sadder. A peripheral family member... Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I ended up in like a fairly... Oh. I don't know about heated, but definitely firm conversation with about it at some point. That's unfortunate. Yeah, and there was like, it wasn't, it wasn't like at the end of it, they were like, I'm just kidding. Like, you know, there was emotion.
Starting point is 01:42:04 So no, no, I'm sorry. The level of commitment to something so sad. It's almost admirable. It's just a, no, it's not. A less interesting world. It's like there's so much like... I don't know if I think a flat, I think a flat like pancake thing rotating around amidst all the other round planets
Starting point is 01:42:28 is pretty interesting. But like also to believe that we've never made it out there and we've never learned these things. We've never, you know, mankind never took that step. Like it's just, it's smaller, it's narrower. It's, uh... I mean, it's only a small step. There's so much darkness and like sadness and negativity in the world very heavily right now.
Starting point is 01:42:52 Not on the WAN Show. And there's there's these, there's these moments of like human brightness that happen. And to deny that it's just so sad. I, that's why it's like I fully believe that it's real. And even if I didn't, I would want to. Okay. This might not be a topic for Wanshow, but would you extend that logic? to...
Starting point is 01:43:15 I do it with placebo things. Dragons. Do you choose to believe Abominable Snowman is real because that's more interesting? I think Abominable Snowman is pretty interesting. It's not good, though. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:43:30 But it's not good. Part of this is that it's good. Sure, I mean, the vacuum of space is not good, but it's interesting. There's nothing to lead me to believe either of those things are legitimate. Okay, so you want some evidence. I think they're vaguely interesting.
Starting point is 01:43:45 I don't think they're anywhere. even in the same stratosphere as interesting as this and I don't see them as good. So like I don't think their equivalencies. I understand what you're trying to go for. There might be other things. I think for me it's placebo. So within limits of, you know, things that you have actual any evidence for whatsoever. Sure.
Starting point is 01:44:06 You choose to believe the more interesting and exciting version. And good. For now. And that's one of the like I will repeatedly tell myself that if I take like a drug or a treatment for something, I will like push into my brain repeatedly. Like, it's good that I'm taking this because it works. Right. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:25 And I'll like fullheartedly believe that because I'm like, all right. Come on. In some way. In some way, this will work. So like, yeah, I think I do that with more than just nass and stuff. But then I mean, I've seen a rocket take off. So like, I don't know, bro. You can just go.
Starting point is 01:44:45 the ducks are free? I don't know, man. In other space-related news, the FCC is set to supercharged satellite internet performance and potentially lower costs. They just announced they'll vote on April 30th on an order to overhaul satellite spectrum sharing rules from the 1990s,
Starting point is 01:45:06 replacing the old equivalent power flux density framework that limits how much signal power low-earth orbit satellites like Starlink can use. FCC chair Brendan Carr said that the change could boost capacity for space-based broadband by as much as seven times current levels using the same number of satellites. The rule change would mean faster speeds, potentially lower costs, and better service for rural and remote users, with the FCC estimating more than $2 billion in economic benefits for the U.S. alone.
Starting point is 01:45:34 SpaceX, which has lobbied heavily for the change, stands to gain the most. Starlink accounts for about 65% of all active satellites in orbit, and they have more than 10 million subscribers worldwide. The timing's pretty excellent. excellent for them right now too with the rumored IPO coming. Interestingly though, not everyone's on board. Geostationary satellite operators like Viasat, SES, and DirecTV opposed the change,
Starting point is 01:45:55 arguing that loosening the power limits could cause interference with their existing fleets. In other NASA news, that's a fan testing video that we released this week, it took a long time, which was not great. Like, I think Adams trip was like a year ago. But the timing ended up being really good. To the point where a lot of people thought you guys did intentionally. Nope. Don't think you did.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Definitely not. There was just a lot of math and a lot of coordination and a lot of just things taken a long time and we eventually got it done. Dr. Lewis Edelman, former NASA scientist, delved into the details of the fan testing equipment and methodology in an article on the LTT Labs website. How freaking cool is that? we have a special guest writer. Awesome. You guys are definitely going to want to head over there and read this because there's only so much that we can cover in a video format and while keeping it, you know, not a snooze fest. And you can see, as I go through this, clearly not all of this was in there.
Starting point is 01:47:05 And just because it's not a snooze via text, or sorry, just because it would be kind of snooze worthy in video doesn't mean that. it's newsworthy via text. It's an excellent read and you guys are going to want to check it out. We also have another LTT Labs article to promote and that is power supply, turn on and turn off timings. It's something that I had never thought about before and don't get scared by this because Lucas actually does a really good job. He's got to breaking stuff down. Of explaining all these values and why they exist. and why they matter,
Starting point is 01:47:46 which is pretty cool. There's a lot more to the ATX specification than just like 12 volt go burr. It's really cool stuff. And once you understand it more, you properly appreciate just how smart the folks who design these standards are and how important they are.
Starting point is 01:48:11 like intel it's hilarious like intel never Intel never made a power supply for you to put in your gaming rig but here they are foundationally involved in the design of functionally every single one you've ever used in your lifetime unless you're very very old pretty cool stuff definitely worth a read as well LTTE labs has been doing some really neat stuff over the last little while
Starting point is 01:48:35 anyway our discussion question is have you ever made a really poor and placement decision in a previous build that this video from the collaboration with NASA would have prevented. I don't think so, but mostly because I haven't had a lot of builds that had glass in them.
Starting point is 01:48:55 There are a ton of cases out there that this would have actually potentially impacted where I put my fans, but I haven't built in a lot of them. The only case that I've ever had that had front panel glass.
Starting point is 01:49:11 is the one that I currently have and there's no fan slots there. I think for me, it's less front panel glass and it's more bottom intakes. There have been many cases that have short enough feet... Like no feet, yeah. That their bottom intakes,
Starting point is 01:49:28 now that I am, now that I understand how much spacing we actually need, um, simply just are not intaking air efficiently. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't still put the fans there, but I might, not rely on them as much. I might go, I might opt for a different configuration of the fans in
Starting point is 01:49:45 the rest of the case, knowing that those ones in the bottom are not really drawing in that much air. Or I might run them at a lower speed, knowing that they're going to be, they're going to have an outsized effect on the overall noise of my system because of all that turbulence in their intake. I am trying to find something. Sorry, give me a second. Now it's time for turbulent message from our sponsor while he looks that up. Nice, perfect. Hearing the word analytic, might make your brain go into snooze mode, but at the end of the year,
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Starting point is 01:52:13 Chat helped me figure it out. Nice. Good job, chat. I need another second to actually bring up the actual video. But we're talking about power supply timings, and it made me think of a video I watched recently from Lori Wired, which is this one. Your RAM has a 60-year-old design flaw.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I bypassed it. Oh, that was sick. I watched that recently, too. This is an incredible. Amazing video. It's so awesome. I didn't know it worked. this way. I don't want to go way too deep into it, but the storytelling is really good. Her work is
Starting point is 01:52:47 really good. I personally like long format videos on YouTube. It's just an awesome watch if you're into that kind of stuff. Usually I'm pointing you guys for these types of things to the Labs website, and you should go check that out for the NASA fan video and the PowerSplight Timings thing. But you mentioned timings reminding me of this amazing video. I don't want to spoil too much of it, but yeah, a very, very old design constraint from like when we were trying to figure out how to do PC memory, has your RAM modules effectively like kind of of turning off so capacitors can recharge and then turning back on. And that is technically a performance loss. And then diving into like why that is required and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 01:53:28 a very, very good video. I don't want to say too much, but check it out. It's fantastic. Is this the one where it involved having multiple copies of the same data on the RAM and then hitting the one that had the lowest latency or something like that? Or was that a separate RAM. I think that's a separate thing. Dan, do you remember? I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:53:46 that's a separate thing. It's incredibly complicated. There were like two copies, though, but I don't know. Yeah. Sorry, one of the top comments
Starting point is 01:53:57 is randomly absent memory and I just think that's really funny. They got to play with trains. Yeah, it's cool. There's been a lot going on. It's not that old of video. It's only three days old.
Starting point is 01:54:08 It feels like I watched this weeks ago. I would have said, I would have said like two weeks. It's been a long going. or not. So I don't remember all the details super, super well, but it's a great video and I just really recommend checking it out. All right, cool. Anyway, so that's it. Hey, in other good news, it's real. The five terabyte Google One upgrade. Google has bumped Google AI pro subscribers from two terabytes to five terabytes of cloud storage at no extra cost, with the $19.99 per month
Starting point is 01:54:37 price staying the same. The extra space works across Gmail, Google Drive, and Google Photos. This only to AI pro subscribers, standard Google One tiers, haven't changed, and we'll start at 100 gigs for $2 a month. Google announced it on April 1st, which had some users wondering if it was a joke, but VP Shermanet Ben-Yerr confirmed it on Twitter. Part of me kind of goes, yeah, are they just trying to get more of your data? It's like, yes.
Starting point is 01:55:07 But also, if we were going to have to pay for it for them to get more of our data, at least I guess they can get more of our data, I know it's expensive right now, but home labbing is sick. Yeah, but hey, we so rarely find a subscription service these days that is just... A subscription service from a big tech company that got better instead of worse. Spontaneously is more... Rare. More rather than less.
Starting point is 01:55:33 So we're... We got to call out bad stuff when we see it, but we also got to like, you know, on the other side, we got to be like, good job when something doesn't suck more. Yeah. Say the past heads up though. HomeLab is an enormous rabbit hole. Yeah. Oh yeah. There's, I think there's, I think people have a tendency to dive in further than they necessarily need to. And I think you can start with home laby stuff without really going way too hard. And there, there are content creators out there that can help you not dive past either your capabilities, your desire to invest time or your desire to invest money. You can do it in simpler ways. ways and cheaper ways. You can turn anything into a dick measuring contest. And HomeLab is for sure one of those. I have so many AI GPUs in my in my house.
Starting point is 01:56:25 I don't even use them because I just... And that's cool. They work for other people. You just don't have to. You know, you don't have to do that. You can keep it pretty simple. Yeah, you don't have to do that. Do not do that.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Hey. Oh, you know what, I'll save this one. Our last big topic, neural compression, speaking of AI, is coming for your V-RAM, and both NVIDIA and Intel are racing to ship it. They both showed off new neural texture compression tech this week. Invidia's approach, Neural texture compression, NTC, had their demo showing V-RAM usage dropping from about six and a half gigabytes with traditional compressed textures to just 970 megabytes. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:57:13 All while keeping image quality close to the original. The core idea here is instead of using traditional block compression, which chops textures into small blocks and approximates them, NTC uses a small neural network that learns a much more efficient compressed representation of the texture data and reconstructs it on the fly during rendering. Yeah, I'm a little skeptical too. I'll need to see it in action. Just relax.
Starting point is 01:57:39 You're brow-faring. I can feel it from here. It's just, ugh. Meanwhile, Intel's approach, texture set neural compression, TSNC, had Intel showing two variants. Variant A delivers up to nine times compression with minimal quality loss, they say around 5% perceptual difference, while variant B pushes to 18 times compression but starts showing artifacts. Intel's approach works at the texture set level. Instead of compressing each texture individually, their system looks at all the textures for a material, together, colors, normals, roughness, etc.
Starting point is 01:58:15 And trains neural network to learn patterns across all of them at once. At runtime, a tiny AI model reconstructs the full set from that compressed data. If these results hold up in real games, if, the practical impact could be significant, smaller installs, lighter patches, and more headroom for higher quality assets on the same GPU hardware. Nvidia also showed a companion technology called neural materials. Instead of storing tons of texture channels and running heavy shading math, it encodes material behavior into a compact representation that a small neural network decodes at render time.
Starting point is 01:58:50 In one example, a 19-channel material setup was reduced to eight channels with a 1.4x to 7.7x improvement to render speeds at 1080p. Our writer says, I had to look up what channels meant in this context. I'm going to drop a definition here in case you need it. Channels are the separate texture layers that make up a single surface, like color roughness, normals, metallicness, etc. One key distinction, guys, this is very important.
Starting point is 01:59:15 This is not DLSS5. DLSS, as far as we can tell, works at the end of the pipeline on the final image. There's a little bit of muddying of the waters there lately, so let's see what DLSS5 actually ends up being. But as far as we can tell, that's what it is. These neural compression techniques are embedded deeper inside the render engine handling specific tasks like decoding textures and evaluating materials rather than acting as a big
Starting point is 01:59:42 Instagram filter at the end. That distinction matters because both developers and players had something of an extreme reaction to the effects of DLS5 on the original artistic intent. And now layer these two things together. Like how far can we stray from the original vision? Well, it depends. If the original vision is for them to use this at the start, then I guess it was the original vision. Maybe, but this is even like, okay, fair. enough, but I don't know that that's happening. And also, it's going to be inconsistent for each user. I won't know that until I see it. I want to see it. Like, if this is something where I end up with like boiling on every texture in my game or something like that, then obviously I'm going to be
Starting point is 02:00:23 pretty against it. I, I, I'm... Layers and layers of interpretation is a bit of a scary thing. I wasn't sure that DLSS super sampling or super resolution, sorry, not super, whatever the stupid upscaling. I wasn't convinced that DLSS was ever going to be something that I'd want to turn on. 4.5 is something I would turn on without hesitation. So while I fully understand and am on board, a lot of the hesitancy and a lot of the skepticism around NVIDIA's marketing of their DLSS various technologies and AI various technologies,
Starting point is 02:01:07 I'm going to take a wait and see approach. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to wait, I'm going to see it, because it's going to happen. Nothing else really matter. Exactly. There's nothing else that really matters. Like there's nothing you can do. It's not like, hey, that thing you were working on, stop it. It's bad. Just cut, top the presses. Forget it. We don't like it. Turn it off now.
Starting point is 02:01:25 It feels like a telephone game problem. Oh, sure. Garbage in, garbage out. A pretty intense telephone game problem. And how many layers of garbage in before? for all we could possibly get out of it is garbage. Yeah. It's a good question. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:38 But we'll see. Have you seen that like looking at the Ubisoft logo from the side thing or whatever? Oh, yes. It's a turd? Yes, yes, I have. Intel says that an alpha SDK is planned later this year, while Nvidia hasn't given a specific timeline, but is framing this as part of its broader neural rendering roadmap alongside DLSS5.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Right now it's hard. hard for me to reflexively hate on anything that makes it so we don't need quite as much RAM. I guess I'm just concerned. You should be. And I think I would have been concerned already. And then having seen that stuff from DLSS5, I am concerned. I don't remember if I mentioned this back when we did that segment with Riley. But one of the first things I said to Invidia about the DLSS5 demo is that,
Starting point is 02:02:34 that like, I think the worst thing that they did was show it before it was cooked. I am usually the kind of person who enjoys seeing things be developed in the open and watching the progress in real time. In this case, I think they did so much harm and so much damage to what maybe will end up being better than what we saw by showing it to us in that state. Because it's not like this was on the verge of launching. It's not like it was going to launch in a week. Yeah. Like it's, it's months away.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Oh, uh, Rod. Rod said they're sharing DLSS5 demo at PDX land tomorrow. Oh. Interesting. Okay. Well, Rod,
Starting point is 02:03:21 are you going? I assume you're going to, are you going to report for us? You can be our correspondent. Yeah. You can, you can be our DLSS, uh,
Starting point is 02:03:30 eye in the sky. Yeah. He says, I'm at the, I'm at the land. Yeah. Heck yeah. Why aren't you playing video games, bro?
Starting point is 02:03:37 You're watching Wancho for me. I'm crying out loud. I mean, I'm not convinced it's about the video games for Rod. I think he's more about the community. And the computers. And yet, somehow, he doesn't manage to come up and play softball with us last year. He came to Whale, Ann? Yeah, but he didn't come play softball.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Do you how many times I asked him to come to softball? That guy. He's coming to the next whale, man. Can't take these guys anywhere. I think? Tarkov right now have one in the baseball. background. Nice. Solid. All right. All right. You know what? I'll allow it. Um, you know what else I'll allow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's bold. I know. That's pretty based actually.
Starting point is 02:04:16 True gamer. Verified actual gamer. Doesn't even need footsteps. Viewer Wolfgang has the solution to my Xbox pairing issue. Remember I was saying I had Xbox pairing issues? Yeah. Um, apparently to fix it, I just need a bare metal windows install and I have to use that to update the controller firmware in the Xbox accessories app. They apparently tried it in a VM, and even that didn't work. And of course, you also have the Xbox app installed and signed in, so you can download something called Gaming Services,
Starting point is 02:04:44 and after updating the firmware, his paired flawlessly. So I just want to take a moment to call out any company that requires me to own more of their products in order to update the firmware on their products. It's bad. Apple folks always get mad at me about this when I say it is completely unacceptable that I have to buy another Apple product in order to update the Facebook. firmware on my AirPods and they say that it's some kind of double standard it is not a double standard it's unacceptable when Microsoft does it too I already paid like 70 Canadian dollars for
Starting point is 02:05:17 your controller or whatever they are these days yeah I should be able to maintain them perfectly fine on any platform period I agree I'm going to jump back to the like graphics AI topic for a quick sec I find it very interesting because usually I'm a proponent of like you know jump don't jump down people's throats so much else they just won't talk to you again in the future. But I find this one really weird because we have like Disney and they came out with their like Star Wars animals thing. That was horrible. And then DLSS-5 and I just keep running into, there's been other examples as well.
Starting point is 02:05:53 I just can't really think of them off my head right now, which is like, why are you showing me that? Yeah. Like the Disney one especially was just like, what? Like you thought this was cool? Like if they had just- talking about. If they had just used some AI in the background and then done all, you know, the other work
Starting point is 02:06:12 that they would do and it was just in a movie, probably no one would have noticed or said anything about it. Look at art creators. Here, Disney AI demo awful. It's just so bad. Like it's the like audacity to be like, yeah, this is awesome. It was wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Do you guys remember this? Like, I do. What? And I'll remember this for longer than I will remember them doing something cool. Yeah. It's just, it's just kind of weird. Strange.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Anyways. Oh man, I forgot how horrible these were. They're so stupid. They're so bad, yeah. They're just so dumb. Yeah. Jeez. All right.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Anyways. Anyways. It's time for after dark. Dan, let's do this thing. Good. gravy. There's a lot of
Starting point is 02:07:15 there's a lot of checkout messages today. They love those leggings. I've been asking for them every week for years. The leggings are moving, okay. All right, all right, let's do it. Sweet. We, okay, this is one of those things.
Starting point is 02:07:30 We would love to have more of those products. Do you imagine that the creator warehouse team, which is predominantly women, would like to make more products that they could wear at home. I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:45 And we've given the opportunities, but we need, you know, we need your support. We need our, we need our 97% male audience to evangelize these. And normally I don't,
Starting point is 02:07:58 I don't ask you guys to do that. I don't want your charity. Tell them it has pockets. Like I don't, seven pockets. You guys don't owe me any favors. But if you love the products on sort of the men's side,
Starting point is 02:08:11 and you want us to have any shot of accessing a women audience and bringing that quality and bringing that care and attention to detail to women's products, I'm going to need your help this time. That's all there is to it. And it looks like you guys are responding to that. And once these, like seriously, we've actually moved quite a few of them today, once these are in people's hands, leave a review. And don't sugarcoat it.
Starting point is 02:08:38 No. Leave an honest review. Because that's what we want so that you can help guide people. And if we did a bad job, then, hey, we'll take it, we'll take that, and we'll go back to the drawing board. But I don't think we did a bad job. So if we did a good job, then say that too, and we can build some momentum on this. All right.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Wow. How many did they? Two leggings. Excited. These are out to share the LDD quality with my wife. What are some tech-related hobbies that your significant others have been interested in? I mean, my daughters are getting really into, oh man, what is my, what is my eldest daughter not into? She's getting really into animation on the iPad, just like drawing frames and animating them.
Starting point is 02:09:29 She's been getting really into 3D modeling and 3D printing. She definitely still has some, so she understands 3D printing a bit and she understands 3D modeling a bit, but she's just now, starting to model things and then 3D print them. And so the one that she was trying to print last night, the one that I started again at like 2 in the morning or whatever, was a third attempt because it just was like not very optimized. So that's something that is really exciting to see her learning. Oh, wait, significant others.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Sorry, I thought you meant, I read it as other significant people in my life, so I went straight to my kids. Tech-related hobbies Yvon's into. I mean, she loves like her cricket. anything to do with like vinyl plotting, like 2D cutting. The carpet thing? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:19 She hasn't actually used that much though, whereas like the cricket she's used a lot. Like she did a bunch of signage for smash champs on the cricket. And it's like so pro-looking, you would never know. But she like hand-aligned all of it. And she was like, oh, I think that one's way off. I'm like, don't touch it. It's no one will ever notice.
Starting point is 02:10:35 It's fine. She's just like that, though. I'd say the cricket is probably the biggest, like, tech thing for Ebonne. she's like dived into. Cool. Was this both of us? Oh, yeah. Tech stuff.
Starting point is 02:10:53 I mean, she got into streaming for a bit there. She did. Plenty time. Plenty time. She liked streaming. That was fun. She hasn't been, she's been knitting.
Starting point is 02:11:04 Okay, not tech, but sure. No, I know, but I'm saying like she's gone away. I mean, at a time that was technology. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. trying to think I think she's been in super into tech stuff in a while she's pretty good with it actually
Starting point is 02:11:24 just yeah like we we recently kind of like moved back in from the rent of her computer's not set up yet it's all sitting there but just hasn't really like bothered to plug it in um and the the other computing that she's done
Starting point is 02:11:43 is like she used a laptop for a short period of time just to like make a Google sheet for my mom and then got off the laptop again and didn't touch it again so I don't know hey didn't she do some stuff with like vibe coding or something okay yeah there you go you got that for like her old job or something yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah she took like uh oh man I'm going to describe this really poorly, but there's like actually a lot of variants of products when you're in glasses because does like when you're when you're trying to check the person out basically. Yeah. Does it does it have this type of code? Oh my God. Does it fair? Does it have this
Starting point is 02:12:28 type of coding? Does it have whatever who knows various is it is it is it a bifocal? Is it not? Is it all these different types of things? So and then you have to try to figure out what the pricing is going to be for the person. So when you're like trying to tell them what it's going to costs if they get various things. She built this like form that could help you flow through that a lot more easily. That's cool. And that was that was a little bit ago, but she was quite successful with that. And she was actually quite successful with maintaining that, which can be really annoying.
Starting point is 02:12:59 And she had some frustrations with it because it's really annoying. But this was a bit ago when it was worse. So yeah, that worked pretty well. That was actually what really sold me on. people who have never even looked at code before being able to vibe code. I remember you talking to me excitedly about it. It was very impressive. Like, this is something.
Starting point is 02:13:19 Yeah. I don't know what it is. And it's, it is now a tool in her belt that she has, which I don't think she's really used since then, but it's available. It's there. And she has the confidence to do it.
Starting point is 02:13:31 And it's just going to be better for the next time, which is pretty cool. And it's, again, it's one of those scenarios where, like, no one lost a job from that. they were never going to hire someone to do that. That was never going to happen. It just made people's lives dealing with that system a little bit better,
Starting point is 02:13:48 which is like, cool. Sycoma asks if Yvonne used the laser cutter from her tech upgrade. I've used it. I made her a Mother's Day present with it, like laser, like cork, like heat pads for like hot pots and stuff. Cool. Just say, I love you, mom. They're from the kids. but like I did all the work.
Starting point is 02:14:10 They just like picked whatever I... Sure. Yeah. And then Nokia says, knitting isn't tech. Yvonne got that by the mirror. That's an embroidery machine. And they have been using that. I just sent down a picture
Starting point is 02:14:23 of a pretty cool project. Dude, it's cool. They, there's like open source communities for knitting. Because they like share their patterns and stuff. Like actually, sweet. It was really interesting to see how much crossover there is, but
Starting point is 02:14:42 yeah, life is strange and it's cool. Yeah, go for it. I'm assuming you guys were talking about, like, this kind of tech. Actually, wait, hold on, don't show it just yet. Let me just double check something really quick. GDG.
Starting point is 02:15:01 She's been getting into like different blends of different yarns and all these different things, and it's cool. It's pretty sweet. It's not for me necessarily, but it's pretty sweet. I'm excited about the output. Yeah? Anytime. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so this was done on the embroidery machine. She made that? Well, I mean, everything else was done on the sewing machine, but yes, she's super into making stuffed animals right now. And then the eyes were done on the embroidery machine.
Starting point is 02:15:34 That's pretty sick. Yeah, this is a gift for a family member. That's cool. Yeah, from she makes them from from just fabric. We're at a wee bit of a distance, but I would just believe that was a product. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like it looks great. Yep.
Starting point is 02:15:47 That's awesome. Yeah, pretty cool, hey? That's really cool. No key. Fox, Firefox, give me. I mean, you can commission one. I've told her, I think she should sell them,
Starting point is 02:15:59 but she's mostly just interested in making them for fun. If she made a little Firefox, that actually looked like the Firefox logo is Firefox, that would probably, slam. For it to be worth her time, it would have to be pretty expensive. They take a long time. It's a, it's a hobbyist thing for sure. Yeah, well, everyone watching on a float plane is using Firefox. I know they are. There's a lot of Firefox. Every one of them. Yeah. Hit me, Dan.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Linus, with the Tesla, with Tesla heralding the imminent arrival of unsupervised full self-driving. Do you think that or open pilot will be done first? Which would you rather have all else being equal? I mean, I'd rather have the version that Tesla's been promising for all this time. Unfortunately, hold on. Unfortunately, it's been promised over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and it has just never, like, actually arrived in the way that they have promised it. here hold on there's a there's a really funny article that broke down all the times that
Starting point is 02:17:17 Elon has said by this date it will be more safe than human drivers and then the the writer of the article actually didn't get them all and one of the one of the commenters under it found going back even further more times that he had used exactly the same puffery language to describe the progress that they were making on full self-driving. And to be clear, you know, what a Tesla is capable of doing is very cool. My objection to it is the way that it's been marketed, the way that people have been misled for all of these years. At many times, in ways that Tesla and their leadership must have known was not true. That's what I find frustrating about it. it's not that the software is not cool.
Starting point is 02:18:12 It's not that it's not useful. It just isn't what they said it was, or what they branded it as, and the timelines have just, I mean, they've just become a meme at this point. Like, it's not even, it's like Valve time, at least Valve eventually delivers the thing. When are we actually going to get the Tesla full self-driving
Starting point is 02:18:35 that is actually safer than a human driver? And maybe more importantly, when is Tesla going to have the stones to actually publish any peer-reviewed data that backs that up? They don't. Waymo does, but Tesla doesn't. And the only reason that I can think of that Tesla would not publish data, like their disengagement's, for instance, is that it's not flattering. That's why else? If you're the leader in the space, you talk about it.
Starting point is 02:19:05 if you like to pretend and you would cosplay as the leader in the space, then you obfuscate. It's that simple. Hey, DLL, love the show. Question for Linus and Luke. If I made an LTT video game, what would you like to see in it? I would like to see gameplay first and not an LTT video game. I just don't think an LTT video game would be very good.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Like, what even would an LTT video game be? Like I, like, uh, like I'd see something like PC building simulator, like some guy, like a simulator type game maybe. Is it, uh, man, what was that name of that game, video? PR crisis management simulator. That makes sense. Video game creation simulator or something. What was that? Game dev tycoon.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Oh, yeah, okay. If it was like game dev tycoon, but. Pea Pity Pi already has YouTuber simulator though. So like, what the heck else is it that I do exactly? Game Dev tycoon isn't just the like game dev version of YouTube simulator. It's different. You could like game dev tycoon it, but with YouTube channels. It wouldn't even technically have to just be tech.
Starting point is 02:20:28 And that's how you can get away from it being LTT based. Is it could just be YouTube channels. Now we're getting a little bit closer to YouTube simulator. But it's still different. I swear, it's still different. Noki points out that we already made an LTT video game. Hold on. Here it is.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Yep. Well, we also had Linus Jump. I don't think there's a lot of, like, footage of easily findable. That was pretty cool. But Linus Jump was actually pretty sweet. For the verified actual gamer program. Yeah. All right, Dan, hit me.
Starting point is 02:20:58 Hi, Linus Luke and Dan, looking for the best thermal adhesive to apply rocket cool copper IHS to a 12700K. Any other advice? Found a working chip on three bay. Excuse me. He just a need to assemble. also how's your steam build here's
Starting point is 02:21:16 my question for you at this point why put an IHS back on a CPU yeah go bare die maybe based if it's working
Starting point is 02:21:29 just man what would I use I'm trying to remember does Intel solder them I haven't I haven't felt the need to delid an Intel top tier chip
Starting point is 02:21:44 been quite a while. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure Roman, Derbauer would have a video for you. But Intel solder the 1200,000, excuse me. Series chips.
Starting point is 02:22:02 That's what I would probably want to know. Yeah. Oh man. If they're soldered by default, almost anything you put on them is not going to be an upgrade. I mean, doesn't rocket it cool, have a guide for how you're supposed to assemble their copper IHS? I would just, I would just raw dog it, bear die personally. Be fast, be cool.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Products. Here we go. Instructions. Here, I'm going to, I'm going to do the research for you. 12th gen instructions. D-lid, relid. Hair dryer to soft. This video is unavailable. What the fuck? Really, you guys? Okay, well, I can see what the problem. is then. Artemis, too, suggested in his suggestions, let's go. Yeah, I would check out Derbauer's channel. He would almost certainly have something about that, but I, ah man, see, people are saying liquid metal, and that would be maybe the most effective, but it would be pretty dangerous to apply there when you don't have a way of, I wouldn't trust just silicone, gluing an IHS back down and hoping that I have enough contact for liquid metal personally.
Starting point is 02:23:18 PTM would be safe. I don't know how good it would be in that in that application. And I say Ptm 7950 is the one I mean. Yeah, from LTTSaur, we have that. It's a good thermal pad. But the honest truth is I just don't know if it's the best for that situation. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Hey, LDL, been a fan since I was a kid. I was tasked with making one to two mill photos, million photos, be viewable to far away elderly family members. Considering Google Photos or a HomeLab solution, what would you suggest? Oh, my God. Well, it depends. Do you want a fun project? If that's the case, how about Image? Do you want to just upload it, crap it onto the internet, and not think about it anymore?
Starting point is 02:24:14 than Google Photos. I mean... It depends. I know like some people really seem to hate helping family members with tech stuff. And then being far away, I don't know how compatible it is for like, are you awake when they're awake? Like if they're having a trouble viewing your Home Lab thing, is it going to be okay? Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to have no problems with Google Photos. but the blame shifts.
Starting point is 02:24:44 So it's kind of up to you. I do wonder what the cost for storing two million photos into Google Photos would be. I'll be right back. Bye. Bye. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:04 My gut would be to image it. But yeah, it depends. How friendly are you with those relatives? How much time do you want to spend? Being the blame for everything. And how much do you think they will understand that? Because it's not like Google Photos is going to be perfect either. But anytime you provide the solution,
Starting point is 02:25:25 I've had this talk with the infrastructure team a bunch locally at LMG, it's like, yeah, I mean, if the thing that we propose that we use is someone else's thing that we're just paying for, when it goes down, everybody just goes, ah, you know, dang. If it's our thing, if we're self-hosting it, whatever else, and it goes down, then people get angrier, I find, and specifically at you,
Starting point is 02:25:51 which is rough. So, yeah, are they that type of person, or are they going to be supportive of, of you trying to do it yourself? I would self-analyze that. Because, like, I say,
Starting point is 02:26:05 oh, I would probably go with the self-hosted solution. I'm pretty confident my family would just think it's, like, cool. And if there was more problems, they were just like, let me know, and then it would be fine.
Starting point is 02:26:15 so I don't know it depends my concern is no matter what you do you set it up so it'll be your fault yeah you are now on the hook for this cloud flare goes down you set it up it's your fault why did you pick something that went through cloudflare dummy yeah well they don't even understand what that is
Starting point is 02:26:33 just the thing that you were in charge of is now broken yeah and then again with certain people that won't be a problem at all and with others it will I would try to analyze which which they might be and go from there. Print them out and just... Just mail.
Starting point is 02:26:48 Have a requesting service where they can just get tons and tons of boxes full of all the photos at any time. And people just ship them around to each other. What about just having an external drive with them and like a sync thing so that you can just like give them to them, like mailing it with extra steps? I had to...
Starting point is 02:27:07 We had to data transfer a ton of videos back in the day from Dankpods. And it was vast. and more efficient for him to just mail us a drive. What is it, the pigeon per second kind of thing, like pigeons and truck? What is the data transfer rate of a... At some level, it becomes faster to duct tape micro-sd-carts to pigeons. What is the meme?
Starting point is 02:27:32 What is the data transfer rate of a... What are those old... Old mobiles that had the wood paneling? They had like a name. Vueck. I don't know. I think those old... will be able to something. Station wagon? Yeah. What is the data transfer rate of a station wagon?
Starting point is 02:27:48 A lot. A ton. It's super high. These days even more because now we have one terabyte micro SD cards. Yep. You fill up a station wagon with one of those. Oh yeah. With all of those, sorry. And you are, you are moving data. Yeah, you can't. You can't. I think that's why like, geez, backplays, part of their recovery system is we'll just ship you like a box of hard drives. Yep. Yep. Yep. Is there a discussion question we can do? No, I'm looking for one. How about this one? Hey, Loop, Linus, and Laniel.
Starting point is 02:28:23 What would you say are some examples of lower power tech that has far exceeded your needs and expectations? What on Earth is lower power tech? I think I can interpret this in a few ways. I think one of them is a bit of a cop-o because I'm looking at it right there. But the Neo, it's a, It's a phone processor. I don't think that's actually talked about enough.
Starting point is 02:28:45 It's a mobile phone processor. And the laptop is sweet. Like, I actually don't, I haven't seen a ton of people kind of pointing out like, guys, this isn't, this isn't necessarily what you'd expect in a laptop in regards to the,
Starting point is 02:28:59 the chip. But it's really good. Also, this was not low power, but would probably be considered low performance, I guess, now, but something like a 1080.
Starting point is 02:29:10 People are still rocking 1080s to play. modern competitive games and doing fine with it, which is wild. The fact that people are playing even like graphically great games, people are playing Arc Raiders on 1080s and having a totally fantastic time. And the 1080 has been around. Yeah. Three times. Oh. No ding for that. Fine. I'm back. I'm going to turn 360 degrees around and walk away. Yeah. Nice. Hey, oh, it's story time. Remember you asked why I was so tired this week?
Starting point is 02:29:47 Sure. So we had a trip to Virginia. Okay. We went to see a data center for, I did like a sponsored video for Equinix, which was pretty cool. Cool. Unlike the last Equinix data center tour we did,
Starting point is 02:30:00 I was like, hey, we can't just like do the same thing over and over again. They're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Don't worry, we've actually got lots of really cool stuff. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. So we went into one of their, one of their like experimental cages. You got in the cage?
Starting point is 02:30:13 Nice. And it was, and it was, you got in the cage. And in their like test platform cages, they had, a lot of it was actually like
Starting point is 02:30:22 older stuff, but it was kind of experimental stuff. So one of the things that we're going to show is like this, you know how direct liquid cooling is like totally a thing
Starting point is 02:30:32 for servers? Yeah. What I hadn't, had somehow escaped my notice was they have a two-stage system there that instead of using water is using water to cool a two-phase, excuse me. They have a two-phase system. So they're using water to cool a refrigerant that is being pumped around with a compressor out to the
Starting point is 02:30:53 systems in it. Apparently it's been around for like four or five years now, which I thought was pretty cool. So we, we check that out. Anyway, that's not the story. The story is that there's a particular member of the writing team who basically came to me and said, I would like to, I would like to ride the thing. And I basically said, well, you can't just ride it because as much as I joke about, oh, well, as long as we have a business meeting, then it's a business expense. That's not actually how it works. You just actually have to do something. You actually, it has to actually be for a reason. And so he pitched the lowest hanging fruit possible that we would build the highest PC ever, but like, ha ha, get it. Now, obviously, we're not just going to do like the most low effort
Starting point is 02:31:38 nonsense ever. So what we did is we worked with Pancrats who has his week in the life of vlog over on floatplane right now, LMG.LMG.g.g slash floatplane to make what we believe is maybe not the, but one of the most efficient gaming PCs. So in terms of FPS per watt, I don't think we were much clear of like 200 watts by the time we were done with it, but we were playing cyberpunk at like 60 FPS, 1080P like very solid settings.
Starting point is 02:32:13 Nice. Very cool. Anyway, is how it was supposed to go until we had finished meal service and we went to get everything out of the luggage compartment and realized that one certain writer had left the case on the ground.
Starting point is 02:32:36 Oh. Did you buy the case? on the other end and then build it on the way back? So we devised a plan. Okay. The way it was supposed to work was because we wouldn't just like take it up to build a computer and it and bring it down. Like it would have to be going somewhere for a good reason already anyway.
Starting point is 02:32:58 So he was on, we was with us on the whole trip and then he was just going to like work from home for the rest of the trip. And then what was supposed to happen was on the way back. We were supposed to be able to nap because the Equinix tour started at, started at 8 o'clock. in the morning Eastern time, which is 5 o'clock in the morning for us. So I was up at like 4.30 or something or 420 after doing the highest PC build. And so I wanted to work all day and then sleep on the way back. But instead, we devised a plan while Sherrod and I went to Equinix with Sean, one of our newer guys. He's a camera op actually. He's awesome. You guys will meet him at some
Starting point is 02:33:40 point pretty soon, I think. We went to do the Data Center tour and, um, screw it, Elijah, you're going to find out soon enough of Elijah. Chat all guests because you like hinted to the idea super strongly in the, oh, did I? In the announcement video. Announcement video. You talked about like how he was going to build like low power draw and, uh, high performance and.
Starting point is 02:34:06 Oh, did we already have this video planned at that point? I get my time. lines. You mentioned lightweight a lot, so it might not have been exactly this. It was pretty much this. Yeah. It's pretty light. It's not the lightest thing, but it's, it's like it's small, it's pretty light, and it's super low power. Okay, yeah, it was Elijah. Anyway, so he went and it turns out, hey, there's Microsenter, about 40 minutes from the data center. So he basically went to microcenter, bought the case, and then went back to the airport and just like sat and like work from homed because like what the heck else is he going to do we don't have a hotel room anymore
Starting point is 02:34:41 because we were going back that day so he just like hung out at the airport for like six hours and then we finished the data center tour I'm like wiped because I actually had a really hard time falling asleep the night before because I've not time adjusted and then I was getting up at like and also I just I have a hard time sleeping and then I had to get up at like 4.30 my time and then so I worked all day and then we did our meal and then I was like sitting there and it's like time to rally okay let's do this thing
Starting point is 02:35:16 smelling salts just to film videos and it actually ended up working out okay we were really worried because the original plan for the trip had us flying back at night or like in the dark not at night but in the dark and what we've learned so far is that that would not work I don't think we can film in there other than daytime but we not only got it working we got everything going we got power figured out we got i was even able to download obs so that i could do screen cap because we forgot to put obs on the drive before we
Starting point is 02:35:51 took off it took forever oh yeah right that makes sense but we're able to game the one thing you know what i'm not going to i'm not going to spoil anything else it is probably the most unhinged video that has been on our channel in a solid six months. Not very grounded, you could say. You could say that. You could say that. So aggressive. I will give you guys one hint. I'll give you guys one hint. I'll give you guys one hint, okay? I'm going to send this to you, Dan. Just throw this on the, uh,
Starting point is 02:36:28 just throw this up on the stream. This is so funny. normally the video would be hosted by like me and Elijah right and Sean would film it but we actually had a special guest for this video on the way back Dan you want to you want to throw that up for us when you get a minute oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you got a sec I oh yeah oh yeah yeah go for it go for it
Starting point is 02:36:55 Sherrod decided to lend us a helping hand on the shoot What am I looking at here? He was napping the whole time. Was he snoring or something? No, but when I had to cable manage under him was pretty interesting. Oh, boy. It's sheer dumb fun.
Starting point is 02:37:21 It's complete dumb fun. And if you thought that the not being grounded joke was terrible, we've got whole new depths of depravity to... Sure. You know what else I'm actually really excited about? is we've got a video coming where I finally do a build with Sammy. Oh, cool. Do you know about this?
Starting point is 02:37:42 No. Sammy, with only sort of my permission, uploaded a short called... Oh, I do know about this. One dollar for my PC for every... My boss will spend a dollar on my PC for every subscriber. That video drove 18,000 subscribers. So I was contractually obligated to build Sammy a workstation for $18,000 with a caveat. I got to pick the hardware.
Starting point is 02:38:15 I mean, I'm the one buying it, right? So Sammy and I build a machine together, and James was watching it. He said that it's one of the most fun videos we've ever done. And also because Sammy is, like, has built a computer. computer before but like not well is actually full of like really good solid like tech tips for beginners and intermediate builders and stuff uh i'm really excited about that one too both of these videos have like very similar just just plain fun energy is it going to happen just plain fun no i got it i'm wondering if it's going to happen there we go thanks dan i thought you're still talking
Starting point is 02:39:02 about the sammy yeah well no both of them both of them i think we're i don't know man We're headed into an interesting era, I think. I was looking at, what's the video that we have coming out this weekend? Let me have a look here. Train. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, man. Train.
Starting point is 02:39:23 I think it's coming this weekend or Monday, but we had our electric chargers cut, our EV chargers cut and the copper cord stolen. And just classic, this is like classic LTT stuff. I thought you did that for a completely different reason. No. Okay. No, this is like classic LTT stuff. Like just a thing happened in our, you know, daily lives and we use it as an opportunity for tech tips.
Starting point is 02:39:47 We make an upgrade to the car chargers. We talk about the process. We talk about like the value of the copper that was stolen. By the way, for you, like, copper thieves out there, it's not a lot. It's like not actually worth that much. Like, really, don't do that. It's not. It's like not worth.
Starting point is 02:40:06 it. I was talking to... This is a side quest. I was talking to Alex, Alex Dick, our logistics manager guy. And I was like, dude, like, what would you think of just, like, putting a little sticker on the car chargers that's just like, hey, if you need it that badly, there's 10 bucks in a tin can behind the building, just go take it. Like, this is not worth it, man. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:40:30 Like, what people will do for 10 bucks. I don't know how to deal with that. He's talking generally to the YouTube audience. The float plane people are all like, we've seen this, we saw this two days ago. Oh, oh, yeah. And he's talking about a weekend release for YouTube. Why didn't Sammy have the, uh,
Starting point is 02:40:48 I don't know. Why didn't Sammy have the early releases on, uh, on the float plane announcements? No. Yeah, anyway. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Uh, oh, sorry, Dan. We can go back to, uh, check-up messages. Hey, and Nat is Gil and live. Any updates on the tech house? Any fun or interesting things you want to include in the house? Oh man, I need to go there and just kind of sit and meditate in the middle of the house for a while because it's a really weird problem. It's large enough that it has like all the rooms. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:41:35 It's got a kitchen and like a spot for a kitchen table and a family room and a dining room. and a living room, right? Like, it has all the rooms, and it's big enough for that. But it's not really big enough that all of those rooms are like an ideal size. The kitchen is really small. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:41:56 And so to expand the kitchen, I actually think that it should get more of, like, a condo layout, where instead of having a formal dining room and also an eating area, it should just be one. but unfortunately because of the sunken living room where you would do that without the floor plan just being super weird
Starting point is 02:42:20 is not obvious and now that we had to pay so much to get the asbestos removed I don't think our hypothetical homeowner gey even if I did feel like spending the money if our hypothetical homeowner gee is trying to do things on a reasonable budget I think he's in a situation right now where he's kind of exceeded his budget and if he wanted to like
Starting point is 02:42:44 expand the sunken living room or something like make a major change like that it probably wouldn't be feasible so i want to try to find a way to make it make sense where we don't have to make a major change but just because like the kitchen's in this corner and then you've got like a really small dining room and then you've got this like stairs down to the living room and then over this way you've got like your back door like your back sliding door so you're sort of bounded on that side. And then you've got like a family room. And it's like, well, we can't go this way.
Starting point is 02:43:17 And we can go this way. But unless we go this way, like a lot, it's really weird. And then also, sorry, where is the dining area supposed to be? Like, I just, I need to sit and I need to fester on it for a while. Fester. Yeah. That's a choice. I have a short circuitry, and I love it.
Starting point is 02:43:40 Why did you switch from cotton polyester spandex to 100% cotton on most new hoodies? Which new hoodies have lots of pockets like the short circuit hoodie? Generally speaking, people sort of are of the mind that more cotton content is more better. I, like you, do not necessarily agree that it provides a better experience for me. They're trying to get away from microplastics, right? Uh, no, no, and just in terms of just like quality, not, not, not necessarily even like ecological concerns. The WAN hoodie, though, is the closest to the short circuit hoodie in terms of having like all the, all the fun pockets and stuff. Like, here's a pocket on the arm because,
Starting point is 02:44:26 I don't know, there's a pocket. Here's a pocket on the chest because we put a pocket there. Here's a pocket in the back because we put a pocket there. Um, this is sort of the, the spiritual replacement for that. Hit me, Dan. Hey, Dan, Luke and Avanzhusbando. You recently put out a video saying that RAM prices are going to be going down soon. Assuming that's true, when are we expecting storage prices to do the same? I mean, what I said was, I think the worst may be over. I don't know that they will, in short order, go down to where we start it.
Starting point is 02:45:07 Nothing happens overnight. This increase didn't happen overnight and a decrease won't happen overnight. So there's always a leg. And with that in mind, I don't think the worst has hit us yet for storage. I wouldn't go out and buy a million dollars worth of SSDs and hoping to flip them in, you know, four weeks or whatever because of that sort of intuition. Like I wouldn't actually bet money on it, but I don't think the worst of it has yet hit us because of how much later SSD prices started to skyrocket compared to RAM.
Starting point is 02:45:46 I also haven't seen any solid evidence that there's anything that would ease storage demand. I think there's a very, very strong incentive to find workarounds to just needing infinite memory. Storage, I'm not convinced, has hit the point where it's costing so much that there's as much of an incentive. It's still pretty bad, but yeah, for sure. I'm not talking about for consumers. I'm talking about for the data center builders. Amaria in Philippine chat was like, I wouldn't buy it right now. I'm paraphrasing slightly.
Starting point is 02:46:34 I'd sign a letter of intent to buy them. Nice. Solid. Hello, LLD. Recently found out my 11-year-old made an Instagram account. We'd love to hear Linus's approach to parental controls. iOS screen time is mega-broken and isn't cross-platform. Any practical tips?
Starting point is 02:46:54 This is a big part of my problem with Apple's approach is they are not cross-platform. I don't think FamilyLink is especially cross-platform on the Google side, but I have found it to be, at least to my knowledge, reasonably reliable. I'm pretty happy with it. It allows overall device management as well as per app management in a way that I think is pretty darn intuitive. I wouldn't recommend like going and buying an Android phone in order to do that. One of the things you could do is if you have a router that supports it, you could check the
Starting point is 02:47:41 services that are being utilized by your kids' phone's IP. I doubt they have the sophistication at 11 years old to install a VPN to obscure which apps and which websites they're using. So that would be a way to keep an eye on it. There's always good old-fashioned grounding.
Starting point is 02:48:00 You know, okay, you made this account without permission and you're using it after we talked about not using it. Guess what? You don't have a phone for some indeterminate period. of time. At the end of the day, right, though, it comes down to your relationship with your kid. That's what you've got to manage. And not even your relationship with your kid, your relationship with that human.
Starting point is 02:48:21 They're only going to be 11 for less than a year. And they're only going to be not an adult for just over half of the time that they've existed again, right? So good luck. Parenting is hard. at Linus, what are you thinking for for your next car after the ticket? I don't know. It took me like 10 years to upgrade from a clapped-out civic. Tican seems pretty good.
Starting point is 02:48:57 Second Ticcan. What about second Tican? How about a B-YD? Oh! Yeah. One of those 10,000 horsepower ones. Probably carry the Ticcan in it. I think I could be convinced by the Yangon.
Starting point is 02:49:13 Wang U-9. Yang-Wang is awesome. Heck, yeah, that looks hot. Dude, have you rode in Linus's Wang yet? It's a Yang-Wang, sir, not a Wang, okay? Number Wang. I don't know. It looks pretty cool, and it's not as expensive as you would think.
Starting point is 02:49:35 How much is this thing? Yeah, $236,000 U.S. dollars. Man, Linus is not as expensive as you would think. It's always like, oh, God. Yeah, but it's a hypercar. Look at this thing. Look at this thing. Two million US dollars.
Starting point is 02:49:47 It's still, it's also a USD, so it's like 42 million Canadian dollars. Hopefully not for long. It's not as much as you would expect for other vehicles in that performance class, with goal wing doors, with all the like super angular styling and stuff. Like it's priced like a Chinese car compared to the Western alternatives, but like a top. top tier hypercar. There's cheaper places to get way.
Starting point is 02:50:16 Stay the Path says it looks like a Corvette shrug. I actually... I don't think that's true. What? I don't agree with that either. Dude. C8 Corvettes? I think they look pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:50:32 I unironically like the Z-06 or Z6. This is the newest. 26. Yeah, like this thing... Maybe I just don't like... I don't like its butt. You don't like its butt? I think it looks sweet.
Starting point is 02:50:48 Yeah. I like the butt. Sorry. I got to disagree. What mid-year? Is this the 20-23? Oh, that looks good. 2026 looks good.
Starting point is 02:51:00 Yeah. Okay, I want to take it back. All right. Good. Chat doesn't like it. That's fine. You don't have to buy one. I also don't have to buy one.
Starting point is 02:51:09 I don't think I could go back to internal combustion at this point. I don't know if my car is ever going to die. so. Yeah, I, okay. It might not matter. What would it take? I'm thinking. I'm sizing you up.
Starting point is 02:51:22 Every once in a while, there will be, like someone will almost teabone me or something. And it'll flash through my head of like, oh my God, am I going to have to buy another car? What would happen? And then it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:51:36 And I'm like, oh, cool. Car is still fine. I don't think you will literally ever replace it. if I don't have to, I probably won't. I think the only thing that would cause you to replace it would be if you had a repair bill that was more than the sticker value of the car. I think that's the only way.
Starting point is 02:52:05 That's what happened last time. Yeah. That's what happened the only other time I replaced the car. Okay. If that happened, if that happened, what would you get? This is one of the reasons why whenever I almost get shawacked by someone not paying attention, it flashes through my mind is because I don't really know.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Right. I don't really know. I would, man, I would be so happy if Accure was making plug-in hybrid TL variants. But they're just not. Yeah, Honda and Toyota seem to be like publicly melting down right now about how weird. Like, doomed they are if they don't immediately change everything.
Starting point is 02:52:50 To be clear, there's... I think there's a long-term market for plug-in hybrids. And I think them, like if China's just going to completely own the electric car market, which they might, maybe not in America, but they might pretty much everywhere else. I think them being like Japan is the plug-in hybrid market. I think they could do really well. But I don't know anything about any of that, so don't listen to me. But yeah, it just makes me sad that like, I really like the, I don't know what you want to call it. I really like the idea of my car.
Starting point is 02:53:19 I feel very comfortable in that car. I Tim Mow 3 Like that a lot Says okay You're cheap But like What about saving money over time
Starting point is 02:53:29 Because of gas costs Okay so here's the thing He doesn't drive that much Yeah And that's why his car is never going to die Yeah Like anything that's like This date or mileage
Starting point is 02:53:44 Whichever one comes first It's always the date That car has literally Never hit the mileage count before the date. And I have done like road trips down to Portland and back. Still not going to hit the mileage first. Yeah. Yeah. And I really like the the look of the new TLXs and stuff. Um, but... Would you get the same model year and make? Oh right. They don't even do it anymore.
Starting point is 02:54:16 Yeah, 2025 is the last year, I guess. Yeah, but now they do integras and the integras look pretty sweet too. Like, it's not the technical, like, Mar. It's S for this generation. Or do they have an R of the Integra? I have no idea. They had a type R of the, I think it was like TLX, 2023 or something, and that was a sweet-looking car, dude. Damn.
Starting point is 02:54:43 Damn. But yeah, they're just still fully iced, I believe. Is this the one you're talking about? TLX type S? No. Oh, okay. Well, not the one that Dan's talking about. I think that's also a different brand.
Starting point is 02:54:57 Got it. But, yeah. All right. I'd be very interested. Like, I've been sitting here kind of twirling my thumbs like, oh, they'll totally make one that's a plugin hybrid eventually, and then I'll wait for it to be used for a bunch of years, and then I'll get one. And they just won't do it.
Starting point is 02:55:13 So I'm not 100% sure, to be honest. All right. Yeah. Yeah. me, Dan. Hey, litmus, Duke and Flan. Artemis mission photos are releasing and have brought people together. Do you remember a piece of media that had a profound impact on you or inspired you to dream bigger? Ooh, dream. Oh, okay. My first thought was not dream bigger necessarily. How about inspired you? Or how about profound impact? Profound impact and brought people together? I think it's really hard to ignore. Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 02:55:49 Okay. I'm just answering for you that didn't know that's fantastic for me that isn't what I was going to say but that's fantastic I like that I was going to say the original launch of Pokemon Go if you want to talk about brought people together like holy it was years where if you saw people walking around
Starting point is 02:56:07 in groups outside on their phones it was like you just point and nod even now even now it's like still a thing decently popular still it's not where it was but it's been out for over 10 years yeah the fact that it still is popular this is crazy for me, a impact on me in particular. I mean, I saw Puget systems at Pax with a mineral oil computer,
Starting point is 02:56:30 and that's what inspired me to make my own. Watching the making of, I think it was Morwind, and the making of the original Halo were like super impactful and wanting to get me into software development. Yeah, there's tons of stuff, man. It has been really interesting. like there was there was uh three plus million people i think i think at one point time there's over five million people just watching just the streams on nassas youtube account yeah not even all of
Starting point is 02:57:00 the other people reacting to it all the other space channels putting up their own feeds all that kind of stuff there was many many millions of people watching the artemus uh launch landing everything in between um and looking at the chat as as divided as the world is right now looking at the chat on YouTube, which is often like a wretched hive of scum and villainy. There we go. That's the quote I was looking for, like quite literally. But it's usually so bad. But it was really just people talking about how awesome this was and like posting their
Starting point is 02:57:33 country's flag and being like watching from here or there or whatever. Like this is so awesome. Look at what we can all do. Really awesome moment. Anyways. This is going to, you know, probably. upset someone, but I don't really feel that bad about it. But I think that, I think that Prime Minister Carney's recent speech was, the Davos speech?
Starting point is 02:57:58 Was the first time that I really felt like a Canadian politician in my adult lifetime actually understood the problems that we have here and actually had some semblance of not just a plan, but the will to try to at least solve them. There's one line in particular that I've used multiple times, and that's
Starting point is 02:58:32 nostalgia is not a strategy. I think that at times in my life, I've spent, I mean, I suspect we're probably all guilty of this sometimes, but I've spent too much time looking to the past for our solutions. and they're just not going to be there. Yeah, I've shown people on on many parts of the political spectrum,
Starting point is 02:58:56 including people that would generally be against him. I've shown him that speech and pretty much everyone he's been like, damn. Yeah, even people that don't necessarily like him or whatever else. It's a good speech. Good speech. Last one I got for you today.
Starting point is 02:59:17 Greetings, Linus and the one on the right. what's a computer product that isn't super necessary but it's very useful to have ah I'm gonna the one on the right's gonna answer this one first I still love it man power play and I've heard the um the the new one is worse or something like I heard power play two is worse than power play one than you zil well I don't know why I never happened ever I haven't looked into it at all because my power play one still is completely awesome and fine. It's just great.
Starting point is 02:59:51 And yeah, the default mouse pad is too small. I just put an LTT desk mat over it and ditched to the default mouse pad, just tossed it. Yep. And it's totally fine. That's a good answer. It's awesome. It's, it's, they are expensive. It's a luxury item for sure.
Starting point is 03:00:09 But I'm kind of surprised I don't see them more often because they're just sweet. I haven't plugged in my mouse in years and I haven't swapped the batteries ever. It's awesome. I'm going to go with my AirPods. They are not necessary. I could use... They're pretty great. I could use wired.
Starting point is 03:00:29 I could use over the ears. When I'm, you know, doing a data center tour or whatever, I could take the little squishy ear things. But, man, I use them every day. Literally every single day I use my AirPods. They aren't necessary, but I absolutely love them. I wish the, I wish the threes, the three pros, were as comfortable as the two pros for me. They still, like, I still haven't managed to mold my ears to them.
Starting point is 03:01:02 But the superior active noise cancellation is just, it's unavoidably better and worth it. After, after the amount of time that I've spent with them now. I have run out. You have run out. What do you mean you've run out? You're right there. Thanks. We'll see again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. Wait, no, no, no, a different channel. Okay. So hold on. We may need to change up the strategy.
Starting point is 03:01:31 I didn't yell it, so it's fine. We may need to change up the strategy for switching to streaming to the WAN show channel. People are migrating faster than I expected. Oh. There's like 2,500 people the last time I checked that we're watching on the WAN show channel rather than on the LTT channel. And people are getting like double notifications and stuff. We need to deal with this. Do we either do we just do the thing that you suggested, which I'm aligned with, or do we pull the audience and figure out what they want? Basically, we're trying to, we, it's like, we agree. We got to split it up. So do we keep the channel that's there as the Clips Channel and move the live stream again somewhere else? I oppose that.
Starting point is 03:02:10 I'm not asking them that. Let's take it offline. Let's, you and I talk about it. So we're moving the Clif's channel somewhere else. I'm fine with either one. Well, okay, there's other voices internally that point at other. video podcast channels that do have the podcast and the clips all in the same channel. And what apparently happens over time is if you only click the live stream and you never click the clips, you will
Starting point is 03:02:30 stop getting the clips because YouTube is all algorithmic now. So let's talk about it. Let's you, me and James get together. It would be nice if it can be one channel. Sit down. I would like for it to be one channel. That would be much simpler from just an IP management standpoint. Totally. Okay. We'll figure it out. We'll see again next week. We hear you though. We know it sucks. at the Land Show channel. And more enthusiastically this time. Bye!

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