The WAN Show - My Family Left Me - WAN Show August 7, 2026

Episode Date: August 8, 2026

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Okay, Twizzlers, time to keep the fun going. Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great. show lined up for you guys today. I have been alone for one week. It's been. Yeah, my family, they left me. They are overseas right now without me for the first time since I entered matrimonial bliss. And it's been, it's a way to describe it. Yeah, it's been, it's been kind of an adventure. I've been taking care of the chickens. Oh yeah. Yep, and working on some tech stuff, playing a lot of Adamson, so I'll be talking about a little bit about that.

We've also got, oh, of course, the biggest news of this week. I'm going to pause to let them think about what is the biggest news of this week. It is, of course, that Rockstar will be previewing the GTA6 trailer exclusively on Netflix. What? Right? See, Dan appreciates what a big deal this is. No, I'm not, I'm just confused Why?

Well, yeah, that's what's funny about it. Did Netflix? I pick two topics, pick two topics. It'll be great, you'll love it. My brain's too fried from that. And continued Xbox conversation, Halo Studios sees layoffs after shipping campaign evolved. And let's see here.

I put so much good news in this week, and that's what you find. Yeah. Classic Luke. What a Luke move. Should I find another bad one? I'm sure I can. And BMW, BMW,

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it's been kind of fun. I've, you know, it's weird. Yeah. I had a surprisingly similar week. and I got sick and I was looking at my work schedule and I was like I literally can't afford to get sick so popped set up an air mattress in the computer room thing and have been hiding

so I have been like hold up there is no space I have to deflate the mattress when I wake up so I can walk around I'm just like stuck in this little room you do know what a strange man you are right

what a solution like that's almost like that's almost 80s sitcom level of like well Mr. Hurley is not going to let me you get sick I won't be able to pay the rent so I'm going to have to quarantine myself and then they set up a quarantine

and then of course there's hijings and people break the quarantine and a dog gets involved somehow like it actually sounds like a sitcom episode I just can't get sick right now Yeah, well, don't get too close to me. I don't know if you... No, I'm fine.

Good. Yep. No, I mean, I'm sick. Oh, my God. No, come on. So you not notice me, like, clearing my throat and... I just thought you were, I don't know. You said you played a lot of badminton.

Who knows? Maybe you're... Sure. ...been through a lot of... Which causes respiratory issues. Yeah, so, man, I got to say, I am not ready to be an empty nester. Oh, we're... Yeah. Dude. I could have told you that. I texted Yvonne this. I texted Yvonne this.

So she's over in China right now because my son is participating in an academic competition called World Scholars Cup. And round two is in one of like a handful of cities and you have to like go there. Your whole team, your whole team of three has to go there which is like crazy. So basically it's privileged kid Scholars Cup essentially, right? But they're. They've won... Any such cases, I suspect. They won the first round, and then they had to go somewhere, and they picked Shanghai, of all places. It's apparently super hot.

Like, just horribly hot there. And there's a typhoon incoming, so it's a whole thing. But that's besides the point. The point is that she's overseas right now, and I texted her, and I was like, I did something today that I haven't done in the 13 years that Linus Media Group has existed. And she's like, what? You can't lead with something like that and not just immediately tell me what it is. And I was like, I came home after work,

I got a snack, and I fell asleep watching TV on the couch. I'm in the like, I'm in the latter half of solar opposites where the show gets kind of bad. I don't even know. And I was just like, I woke up at like five after eight.

And I was like, oh my God. I'm supposed to, this on Tuesday, I'm supposed to be at LNG badminton five minutes ago, oh, okay, go get some clothes on and go, but I passed out for like an hour on the couch. That is the most, like, you know, dad-coated thing ever. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. I don't have something to do. Time to fall asleep exactly where I currently am.

Oh, man, and the chickens have been a trip this week. Okay, yeah, so. Okay, so we're still working on training them to. to like go in their coop. Yeah. We still haven't decided whether we're going to do like a run, like a fully enclosed run. Yeah, yeah. Or if we're just going to let them kind of like free range in the backyard.

And then you got to round them up. During the day, it's actually not really a problem. Like most of the chicken predators are going to be things like raccoons, coyotes, that sort of thing. I mean, a bear got into our yard once. I'm sure that would take out a chicken pretty easily. But it's all more active at night. This is more nocturnal threats.

And we have had some kitty cats in our yard, but the chickens are at the point now where honestly my cats are more scared of them than anything else. They were watching them through the window yesterday. I got this really cute video of them like jumping up on a window, and then the chickens would go over here and they'd like hop down and they'd jump up in a different one. They're watching them. And I grab Brownie and I pick him up and I'm like, okay, do you want to see the chickens? And I take him outside.

And he was an outdoor cat when he was a kitten. And he's been real clear about that that was good. He's good on outside. done with that. That's actually the biggest difference. We have, like, so cat-proofed our whole situation, and we finally have cats that have no interest whatsoever in going outside. Like, we lost cats to the outdoors before.

And, like, I'm talking to escape artists. Everything they could to sneak out. Everything they could to get out. They would open door handles, the freaking bangles. Like, it was crazy. And these guys don't want to go outside. But I was like, okay, come on, come on, Brownie, let's go. And so I grab him.

I kind of, like, bundle him up. Grab his legs. I go, and I take him. I show them the chickens. and he's like, and he looks up at me, all airplane ears. Okay, all right, we're going back inside, buddy. Let's go.

You're good, you're good. And we had one cat in the yard that was kind of scoping them out, and I kind of watched them, but they're big enough now that, like, four chickens, I don't think a cat's going to, like, go in there. Aggressive enough cat.

You might find a particularly murderous cat, but in most cases probably not. But they tend to kind of herd together, and all four of them get all puffy and up in your face, And we think one of them's a rooster, which you're technically not allowed to have in our city. But you can apparently get collars for them that make it so that they can't like and like do the big crow but are not like uncomfortable or anything. I haven't really looked into it.

Maybe it's like super inhumane and it's better to like send them to the chicken sausage factory. I'm actually not sure yet. So don't get too mad at me yet. I haven't looked it up yet. But that is maybe a possibility to keep our rue, which we'd like to do. because they're like, they got so much personality, man. Here, I sent this to, actually, hold on, I'm not sure if I can. Someone bring up a previous Wancho where Lianus mentions like, why would you have a bird?

They're so boring. I don't think I said birds are boring. I might be. Maybe you're just very sensitive. Yeah, I might be. So I can't show this one on stream, but I took this video and I sent it to everyone overseas. I was like the chickens are, they miss you. But basically, I'm coming home.

And they all come, they all come dashing over to me. How you doing? How you doing? What's up? What's up? What's up? And they come hang around. And I'll be around in the yard.

They're like following me around. It's so cute. So anyway, the chickens have been kind of a bear because I forget if it was Wednesday or Thursday. So they've got the coop. And I'm getting pretty good at like rounding them all up and getting them into the coop. And we're going to, I'm going to get some mealworms, which apparently you can use to, it's like a really. really, really high reward treat.

And I'm going to try and train them to, like, get them up on the ramp and then a little closer on the ramp. And then inside the coop, when we kind of get to dusk, because they want to be in there. They actually go near it. Are you pairing it with a noise? I know chickens respond to that really effectively. I like make, you know, animal dad noises at them. But other than that, not yet. Sure.

I know a lot of people do like a bell when it's eating time and they respond really effectively to the bell or whatever. Yeah. Pavlov, I think, was one of the pioneers. concept. Thank you, Dan. Timely. So they're pretty good about wanting to go into their coop. They like their coop, actually.

Yeah, birds are, yeah. Good job. But coming out of their coop in the morning, it's actually been really great so far. They go down their little ramp, they go hang out in the yard, except one morning. I forget if it was Wednesday or Wednesday, I think it was. I went out, I'm like, Dickies, where are you guys?

Come on. I shake their food container. Oh, I guess I do make that noise. So I shake their food container and like, okay, come on. Come on. Dickens? Where are you all? Uh-oh.

So I like lap the whole yard because I found them in weird places. Like we were, we were, you call them whippersnippers. But we were using a hedge trimmer, not a hedge trimmer, like a grass trimmer. I was using a grass trimmer, you know, with the little strings on the end. I forget what they're actually called now. I only know his stupid name for them. Weedwacker, thank you. No, I'm better than whippers, snipper.

Sure. I like that. I'm calling them from now on. And they were all, like, hiding in, like, a far corner of the yard that they never go to. So, like, sometimes they go weird places. But I lap the whole place. I'm like, I'm late for work now, later. And, like, this is ridiculous.

Where are they? And I go, okay, they didn't. There's no way they did. And I go, the coop is, like, right. next to the fence with our neighbor. And from the ground, they can't get to the fence, but from the ramp to the coop,

I bet they could. Not one, not two, not three, all four of them. I look over the fence, and they're right there. They're right under the fence. They've been frantically

trying to get to me the whole time. But when they went over, they ended up in like a, like a, um, a, um, a, um, a, um,

a, um, a, um, a plant bed of some sort that has ground cover that's about this deep, and they're too scared of it. So they're in this little track right next to the fence. That's the only place where nothing's growing, and they're stuck, and they can't get out. And my neighbor apparently has been violating the watering ban right now,

because when I went into their yard to go get them, everything was soaking wet, so I, like, get my pants all wet. I have to go get them. One by one, I have to catch them. which, you know, they're and they're panicked, they're scared, I have to go get them. And then, I had to make a choice.

Either I have to hike all the way back around to the other side or I'm just going to put them on the fence and hope that they don't hop back down here while I gather all the rest of them, but they're flock animals. So as soon as you separate one, it's like, it wants to get to the other ones.

Anyway, the point is, I managed to get them. I love that, chicken chaser. Wasn't that one of the fable? nicknames or was that chicken ficker, I can't remember. No, that was self-park. It doesn't matter. The point is, we got the chicken. No, I'm not going to

toss them over the fence. Where was I going with this? Right, so caring for the chickens, that's been interesting. I've found a little more time to do tech stuff. Caring for the chickens and sleeping on the couch. Okay, tech stuff. Can you finish your No. Okay. I got distracted. So he was going to ask if I've finished setting up my

my local LLM AI stuff. I want to do some, like object, vehicle, person recognition stuff. I have played around a little bit more with home assistant. So I have some more kind of automations going. Like, I can make it so that if Yvonne's

at her desk for half an hour, it plays music. I think I talked about that. There's a really cool feature of the like Project Linus switches from... Oh, right. Yeah. bloody

hell it's on the tip of my tongue is so in a valley there's a there's a really cool feature on the the the in aveli millimeter wave i think they're the red series are the ones that i have the z wave ones that allows you to handle lights that can go really dim but only if they start bright so so if you want them so like say in a in your bathroom your on suite bathroom right

like if you want to create a rule where late at night. It only turns on it like 2%. Right? You can't do that. Would it have to like flash up and then come down? Well, okay, so you could do that or, or in a Valle's switches have a cool feature where you can tell it, give a burst of power for this many milliseconds and then go to this. So you can overcome that, that inability to start up at a really low dimness or a really low brightness, but go straight to it kind of thing. It's almost like pixel overdrive on a gaming monitor. Does it still create a flash? No, if you tune it exactly right. So I've been working on stuff like that. Cool. But the big one I've gotten distracted by is actually the script that I was working

on that is the reason the show is on time instead of early today. And that is, did you know that there's like a secret Netflix for billionaires? No? Why? Why? It's been around since 2001. 25 years this has existed. What? It started out as like a bougie sort of semi-official way to back up real physical media libraries and make them streamable. And then over time, they actually did deals with the major studios to not only allow you to access like AAA movies.

Like I'm talking Star Wars, Disney, freaking universal, 20th, Century Fox, you name it, right? Paramount, like all this stuff. But these guys managed to completely survive the like streamer fragmentation wars and have just continued to be their own thing. Not only that, but you can actually, for many films, get the highest quality available version of it exclusively on this platform. Rest assured in Full Plain Chat said that's where a lot of movie rips on the web come

from. No, it sure isn't. Huh. 100% isn't. it has never their encryption has still not been broken and we would know if it had because there would be like a hundred twenty megabit per second rips of films and they don't exist so i watched top gun maverick uh on the collide escape strato k this is a five thousand dollar as far as i can tell android box that oh no it gets better can hold anywhere from seven to ten movies at once. That's it.

If you want to hold more, you get their server box that is going to cost you anywhere from thousands to tens of thousands more. Jesus. And then, and you still don't own any movies. Because it's less of a streaming platform

and more of a digital movie ownership platform, except that the only place you can watch it is on their box. And that's a big part of why they have been able to maintain their encryption is that you can only stream it from their server, you can only watch it on their box,

the whole thing's locked down, and they even have like kind of like pixel, pixel tagging or like some kind of like image watermark baked into the film that you stream that you can't see that will out you. If you are the one who manages to, who gets like an HDCP stripper and does like an extremely high quality rip of it, for instance. They will be able to identify you. And I can pretty much guarantee you.

They will prosecute you because this is like a huge part of their business model is having this lockdown so that they can deliver the highest fidelity version of the film. I didn't think it would matter at all going from like, you know, 60-ish megabit per second to, to like a hundred-ish megabit per second. Notable, very noticeable. Is it more noticeable because you have an enormous TV? Oh, 100%. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not the kind of thing that you would buy

unless you have like a sick projection set up. If you're, if you can afford this thing, you can probably afford the crazy TV. You are not streaming it on your, you know, insignia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's not what it's for. Yeah. And it was one of those things where I kind of had to,

I kind of had to like, you know, am I imagining this? Because I'm watching Maverick on this. And it's not a film that I've actually watched all the way through before. So I was like, maybe it just looks that good on the 4K Blu-ray. But this is like the best looking that I've ever seen a movie ever. And I couldn't really put my finger on why. Like it was shot on Sony Venice.

Great camera. Lovely camera. You know, but lots of films are shot on Venice. And obviously, you know, the production values of it. They're incredible, you know, like actual jets and stuff. Did you do like input switching? So at first I didn't. At first I was just like, no, I'm just going to experience it.

Sure. And I kept just like seeing things that were like, like blew my mind how good they look. Like just the sky. Like, or there's a scene really early on in the hangar where they've got this like bright outdoor natural light coming into the hangar. And I couldn't put my finger on why it looked so real. why it looked like looking through a window instead of watching on a screen. And so I did. I grabbed a 4K Blu-ray remix, like not a re-encoded one,

and started switching back and forth between the inputs. And the difference is so subtle, but there's a little bit of banding in the 4K Blu-ray. Just a little bit, not much, just a little bit. but the effect is greater than the difference that I can pick out. Because it takes light from looking like an encoded color to looking like window light. And the other one is film grain.

So this is something that I've really struggled with in the transition from analog to digital. right in analog we all agreed that things like CRT scan lines and film grain looked like it was supposed to look and looked natural but as we've transitioned to watching that that analog media on through digital players over digital connections on digital screens what we've ended up with is that film grain in my opinion mostly just contributes to more garbage in to be misinterpreted by my encoder and my decoder as garbage out. But by pushing the bit rate so high, it's kind of like what I first observed when I used the first 5K LCD, where I went, oh, I can just run this at a non-native resolution now and it actually

doesn't really matter. So this is the threshold for me where we're encoding at a high enough fidelity that film grain looks natural again instead of just looking like crappy encoding and decoding. So those are the two big things. Now, now, now, now, now, now, hold on. Spoiler for the video. So if you want to hear

the conclusion when you watch the actual video, then la la la la la la do this. Is it worth it? Oh, hell no. I mean, there's like no way. I wouldn't pay that kind of money. Dude, I found a movie on their service that was $45 fucking dollars to buy.

Nice. Like how much? Aladdin. 192's Aladdin was $30. US dollars. You can buy it on YouTube for five bucks. And that's not even the cinematic 4K

format that has the like super high bit rate. Oh yeah. So for Dan, just so you know, it's 444. Yeah, right? So that's the difference in like color banding that we're talking about. You also said to buy.

So you can... You can rent some films for as little as like seven bucks, eight bucks. No, I was more interested that there was the option to even just buy them. You can't. Me too. That's why it's not just subscription. I thought it would be like $45 to rent. However, you know, I think there's a longer conversation to be had around this because it does use a proprietary DRM that when you're buying it, are you buying it?

Is it forever? And Collidescape's been around a long enough time now that I look at their model and I go, okay, well, they haven't f***ed anybody over yet. So they at least have some credibility there. But, I mean, companies don't last forever. Companies that last for 100 years are so few and far between that they're a statistical anomaly, you know?

What? I thought you were disagreeing with that. No, no, no, sorry, sorry. I don't think that's a controversial statement. I'm poking through their website. Oh, dude, this testimonial is crazy. testimonials and there's Martin Scorsese and you keep scrolling. Oh no no no look at this. Look at this quote. Frankly, I don't know what I would do without it Says Martin Scorsese

Holy crap. What the heck. The next one is Ben Affleck Who they put as filmmaker sure. I mean he is. Yeah, goodwill hunting he wrote. No, I know. It's just that he does everything Why's he? Why is he getting a steady game? I think he's actually like done actually basically every role. That's cool. Yeah. No, as far as my understanding goes, that's true. Super multi-talented guy. Casual Josh Gad. My goodness. Yep.

Pretty incredible. It goes downhill pretty fast from there. Yeah. Random cinema enthusiast. Someone's first name. This guy. Rich dude. Those first two is wild, though.

Crazy. Wait. The first three. is pretty wild. You don't know who Josh Gad is? No. Oh, that's Olaf from Frozen. Oh, okay. And also the lead of Book of Mormon when it first hit Broadway, if I recall correctly, and just various other things. He's super talented guy. So yeah, I've been working on just kind of experiencing it. It's a loner.

Nuts. I only have it for, I think, like three months or something like that. So I'm going to get the most out of it while I got it. The interface is, funky, wonky. I'll wait to show that in the video, but it reminds me of like Final Fantasy 6, just to give you some idea. I'm talking bright blue text boxes, big old white text. Whoa. Very, very installer friendly. And it took me a while to realize that. I was like, this does not feel very premium. And then I went, the customer's never supposed to see this.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Wiley Giraff, we're talking about the strato K, not the E.

That's the one for poor people, Wiley Giraff. The K is the new one. He found the one for three grand. Oh, yeah. I love as well when you go to their website under their moor. They list Marine first. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, buddy.

My goodness. You got to put one on the yacht. Oh, my God. Yeah, buddy. This is classic if you have to ask. You know what I'm saying? Yep. It's actually great for Marine Use, though, because you don't stream it.

You cache it locally. You've pre-downloaded. Yep. So when you're not going to have internet or whatever, especially in the pre-Starlink days, this would... How many movies could it store, though, you said? Seven to ten. Yeah, what? On the box.

But remember, you've got to get the server. You got to get the server. You got a yacht. You don't have a server. on your yacht. Your yatched has a server. Yeah, what are you even talking about? Oh, man. How much does their

ultimate 4K system performance meets luxury terra server thing cause? You can buy it at Best Buy? Oh no, you buy it online at Best Buy. Yeah, yeah, you can buy stuff on Best Buy. I have a feeling that most people are not. Okay, hold on a second. What is red carpet home cinema? Okay, oh my

God. Apparently there's another secret Yeah, there's another secret Netflix for billionaires. look, it's our ad, too. Nice. Sure, whatever. Okay. They can rent current run

movies. Whoa. Holy crap. For $1,500 to $3,000 of pop. Delivered and install. No, but Luke, no, no, no. That's current run, though. No, I know.

That's like stuff in the theater. I didn't know you could do that. I can watch up. No, the Odyssey on my phone before anybody else. Crazy. Join now $15,000 plus What are we? Oh wait, hold on

Apparently these guys don't exist anymore Oh Red Carpet Homecinema.com is Legone So that was just like a referral link Okay, maybe they're dead Offers first run This is why I'm broke.com

Okay, hold on What is this? Rubber band, Gatling Gun Mini Retro External Display TV I don't know Okay, check it out. Yeah, nope, they're gone.

They're gone. Sorry, they're gone. So I guess Clyde Escape is the only game in town. Crazy. Anyway, yeah. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I've really been doing on my week off. Playing lots of badminton.

Yeah, played the tournament that I was going to miss. I was going to miss my own annual tournament at Smash Champs, but instead I was able to play it. Nice. Yeah, won the first match, then crashed out in the next two. So that was it, yeah. I don't know if you want to talk about it.

How did the thing go? I don't want to talk about it. Okay. I don't know what you're talking about. the thing that other Dan did. Oh, good. Nice. Yeah.

Oh, dude. Oh, man. Okay. That's one of the other things I was working on this afternoon that I'm really excited about. So if you're on float plane, there's a float plane exclusive that actually ended up being like a certified mega-banger. People freaking loved it. It was originally supposed to be a mainline video on LTT, but it took so long to come out

that it just didn't make sense to release it publicly. but we did still release it on floatplane. It was me... I think the non-float-plane audience genuinely would have been very confused. Yeah. But the float-plane audience is going to be a little bit more dialed in,

so it was okay. Yep. So it was me vibe-coding. Basically, if you're into pickleball, it's pretty much the... Oh, what is this? I think it's called duper. Yeah.

It's pretty much the duper system for pickleball, which is pretty much the ELO system that is used in chess. So basically you've got a rating and they've kind of adapted it to a narrower band of number values. I swear every player rating system ever can ultimately be boiled down to

chess rating with extra steps. Yeah, StarCraft. It's all just chess rating with extra steps. It's all just Elo. It's all the ELO system. So anyway, it's basically I vibe coded just to see what it would be like an ELO rating system and like tournament management dashboard that ended up the simplest way

to do it was just to use Google sheets and then a bunch of scripting and automations and formulas in order to have like a check-in sheet and manage events, print out little match cards that people could report their scores on, create like a dashboard for entering the scores and then it was able to track people's people's ELO scores. As part of that video, there was like a challenge component where a real developer, in this case, sorry, does he use his name publicly? Not his last one. Cool.

So different Dan, not that Dan, totally different Dan, who works for the company, would get the same-ish number of hours to make something actually good like a developer would make it. and then we would compare my solution to his. The real reason we did any of this was because it's really hard for me to get dev time from this guy unless it's content. Yeah.

So it didn't even end up being content, except it's on floatplane, the me vibe coding it saga, including loop doing some review of my finished product and stuff. To explain the reason why it didn't end up launching is basically that this whole, like, you know, Claude Code, running it locally looping type thing

started happening in like the middle of that. So this was purely an LLM and it was purely before... Pre-agentic era, pretty much. Yeah, and pre-Claude and all that kind of stuff. So it's like by the time the video would have launched, every single freaking comment would have been, what the heck is this?

Why didn't use this other thing? Yeah. So it was like, Why didn't you use the good one? Because we recorded it a while ago. Deal with it. So anyway, Dan's been working on that, and we got a new version of it that he actually came out to see working in person last night, which was pretty great. And we found some bugs in, like, queuing for who goes on court. But compared to my system, which was only able to do, like, open doubles with fixed groups of four, and you just play your.

six matches and we record the scores and that's it. He's expanded it to be able to do ELO ratings for open doubles, women's doubles, mixed doubles, singles, singles, in addition to like a really nice dashboard for tracking your progress over time, way better setups for different formats. So we don't have to do just like a pod-based system you call it where you play with the same people all night. We'll also be able to do just like a ranked night. So over time, During the evening, you can actually be, like, re-rated more like you would in, like, online matchmaking. He's working on an interface where we'll be able to have tablets beside every court,

so people can just, like, boop their wristbands and then start a match, which is so freaking cool. I'm trying to think of, like, what else he's done. Basically, just the admin and maintenance of it is going to be so much better. And then I've, without speaking with you, also hinted to him that if this thing is good enough, I see no reason why other clubs couldn't potentially use it. There's a few different things we've made that we should probably have conversations about. Like should we just productize them? Yeah. The problem is that the rigor that has to go into it once you do that is very high.

I know. is very high. There's also a lot of ways that's something that might be built that doesn't like, it's not portable. It works with the systems that we have. That's not necessarily a system

that everybody's going to have, etc., etc., etc., etc. But a scrap, he also asks, who gets to be support? It's like, yeah. There's a lot more conversation that starts to come up. However,

I would like to see first. I can tell you, there's a lot of money in, like, things for clubs. Do you have customers? is would be what I would look for. And who's going to sell it, Linus? Not me.

Who's going to sell it? Sure as heck, not me. We've seen that from float plane. But yeah, maybe. There's a couple, I mean, there's things that other Dan has built that I think there should be some pretty serious conversations about that around. There's things from the lab that I think could have a discussion there. But we need people to sell it.

We need to figure out what the potential customer-based. or be because it would take upfront investment to move those things to something that could be a product instead of an internal tool. Ongoing support and maintenance budgeting. Yeah. Which

makes sense if you have customers. A much bigger commitment than just here's a tool we built. It works good enough for us. Like, okay, I remember showing you the internal systems that we used at NCIX, right? Do you remember seeing that interface? It was like hairy,

sweaty like sloppy ass it was so bad but man I could do my job I could fly through that thing but if I ever had to show

anybody else how to use it like it the onboarding curve for like a product manager like category manager type of position was crazy like I was years into my role and I would still have to go to

someone like William the NCIX back end whisperer if I wanted to figure out how to do something or I'd have to create like weird clodgy workarounds where it actually mattered like exactly what order you did all your stuff in and we were only able to achieve this stuff through trial and error like it was there was no documentation for basically any of it and so I would sometimes you'd have people you'd see like a like a feature request and it would make it's all the way to like even the verge of being developed and literally nobody remembered that we

already had a feature that did the same thing but it was just called something else and there was no documentation for it anywhere like it was it was kind of crazy like in some ways i get it because you know you want to be agile and you want to you know execute on an idea so you like make a feature or whatever but the flip side of that is okay if you don't keep track of this stuff then at some point you're going to have to pay the piper and the piper wants your tech debt dollars so it was a big challenge

Kirkland's signature in float plane chat says the airline internal systems are crazy I'd believe that because like they've been running since the mid 19th century and in many cases if it ain't broke yeah some of them are ancient

some of those things are very very old yeah I've never I've never like looked over an attendant's shoulder to, you know, see what it looks like, because that would be a weird, creepy thing to do. But I don't know, maybe I should just to kind of scope it out. I don't even know what topic we're on. We're on what you did this week. Oh, okay.

And badminton was one of them, which is why we're on that topic. That's cool. Yeah. We could talk about something else now. Sure. That's all I have to say about that. Should we talk about the main topic of Samsung Band SmartT? TV apps? Or what was the first, what is the, yeah, the title was based on that. So should we talk

about the Samsung thing? Sure. Anything you like? The move comes after, okay, Samsung bans TV apps that share users' internet connections with others. Which sounds like the kind of thing that just wouldn't be allowed in the first place, but do go on. The move comes after Norwegian cybersecurity company, Nemonic, discovered that at least one app featured as editor's choice contained code that secretly allows the TV to be used as a residential proxy. Crazy. It allows strangers internet traffic to be routed through the TV, making it appear to come from the user's network, which could be really bad, depending on what those people want to use it for, which is probably really bad things. Residential proxies are extremely valuable, the web scrapers and other bots, yeah, and malicious actors in general, as it can make network traffic appear to come from residential IPs.

rather than a known data center or VPN address, which can cause service to let their guard down and allow traffic that they would normally try to block. This is one of the reasons why if you try to do basically anything on a VPN, every single website is like, oh my God, are you a bot? Because they're seeing the same IP,

do a ton of different things. So you're avoiding that type of a problem. For your home personal connection. Yeah. A number of well-known games and IPs ported by developer PlayWorks, who reports installations in over 400 million homes, include an SDK from a firm named Bright Data,

who specialize in online data collection. Impacted titles include Pac-Man, Tetris, and Space Invaders. Those are on wild. I don't spend any time on TV. By default, the SDK code is dormant, but on launch, the games reach out to a remote server for configuration, which can include enabling the code, which in this case offer the users ad-free gaming in exchange

for using your device, is free resources and IP address to download public data from the internet? This is like... Whoa. Dude, this whole thing is crazy. What? I know. This blew my mind when I was reading about it.

I thought it was going to be like, ad free because you, you know, bought the thing or paid a subscription or did whatever. Nope, these exit nodes are extremely valuable. What the hell? And developing... I can't even believe that's, like, legal. Developing a stupid Pac-Man clone

costs practically nothing. You don't even have to pay the whole. hosting because the TV the TV vendor store is going to host it for you. So you're just like, oh, okay, here's some absolute slop, like random, coded by

rando developers, or realistically these days AI slop developed game. In exchange, I get to download anything I like through your internet connection and then upload it to wherever I want. This whole thing is so crazy.

Yeah. Okay. So Bright Data specializes in online data collection and offers customers nearly 800 different curated data sets. Things like LinkedIn data, product pricing, and stock info, product reviews, etc. Bright Data is estimated to have more than 9 million of these residential proxies around the world. Bright Data was founded by Luminati networks. Founded as. Founded as Luminati networks. Very close to a different word. What a name. As a division of HOLA VPN. Oh, yeah. Hola VPN, which you may recall made the news for turning client devices into a massive botnet back in 2015. Yeah, I remember that. I think they offered free VPN, which is why so many people used it.

And then, yeah, they just jacked people's devices like crazy. Nomonic also called the Samsung App Store an utter security nightmare and reported finding hard-coded API keys, developer certificates and leftover AI coding agent notes in many apps. Yeah, that should surprise no one. Earlier this summer, SpurDot Us reported that nearly half of LG SmartTV apps had hidden proxies built in. What's happening? Oh my God.

Shortly after, LG responded by banning residential proxies from their app store. The way games like this are shipped to app stores presents a significant challenge to security auditors. This one blew my mind because everything we've said so far makes it sound like complete and utter negligence on the part of Samsung and LG. And it is. But this changes the framing a little bit. Yeah, someone, I think someone thought I misquoted. No, this is LG. This part is LG.

We started talking about Samsung. The last line that we're talking about was LG, not Samsung. Yeah, the reason why I gave the like thumbs up thing is because of what we're going to say next actually, because I knew this was coming. Like, cool, you banned it. Yeah, sounds good. The Playdotworks, or is that a thing on my screen? Play. Dotworks Pac-Man game is presented to the store in just 20 lines of HTML that create an empty frame with game logic and assets are loaded on the fly from a Play. dot work server, meaning it can be completely change at any time. Is it also very common for apps to just load a base thing from the store and then really

download most of the data from some other server because while the store will host your stuff, unlike I think Steam, Dan might know more about this, you get charged for your data flow. So they actually want it to come from some cheaper source. you also get if your app is like huge you might get downranked in the store so you generally want to hide the size of your app especially if it's like a big game or big assets in the game

so you'll often have the initial download be small so it doesn't get flagged I actually didn't know this I thought that they would just cover the hosting costs like many other marketplaces but I guess they're just too cheap for that's old information it's possible it's changed ours is not big enough because most of the big data for Flowplane is the videos themselves.

Right. Not the actual initial app itself. But I know some games that have really big, like there was a game that was popular for a while, which was the Pokemon trading card game on mobile. And the asset sizes for each card was like super high because you could like zoom in and do it all this and whatever. And they had hundreds and hundreds of cards.

So the game was massive, but it would update to be massive. Got it. The initial download was not crazy high. And when they'd add different packs to the game and stuff, the download was enormous. Got it. And this is quite common, especially in the gaming side of app development. And I'm sure it would be the same on TV, which is why I did the whole thumbs up thing,

because it's like they're probably going to get data in some other way, either this frame thing where it's streamed in or an update after the fact that isn't necessarily coming from your servers or whatever. And then like, are you really, do I really think the like Samsung or LG app security teams are going to be like super thoroughly going through every single thing. And every update. And every update. And watching everything that's streaming in.

I mean, we see this on, I have firsthand witnessed the amazing levels of security checking that happens on like iOS and Android. Yeah. And those are going to be way more advanced than whatever's going on in TV land. Probably orders of magnitude. Yeah. So anyways, we'll keep going. And, and I'm sorry, the part that maybe was missed,

we kind of glossed over it is if none of that network sharing code is actually in the download that is coming off of Samsung or LG store, then it's not immediately obvious that it's there. They might have manual reviews or whatever where someone actually does do the full download of the app. That's so optimistic of you. I love it. It happens on Android and iOS. Yeah, I just mean you have to give them a long and stuff.

But again, we come back to the TV thing. Do I actually expect that to happen? It's like, not really. After TechCrunch contacted Samsung, we're back to Samsung again, with a request for comment about the research, the electronics giant said in an emailed statement that it was banning apps that share their users' internet connections and will remove apps that contain the functionality. It's the follow-through. Yeah, it's the follow-through that I'm like sure, guys.

How much faith do we have, given that they didn't stop it in the first place? And there's a millions-strong bot army. And tons of money behind making these things happen. This is the whole problem with all of this stuff, like anti-cheed and video games. There's way more money behind exploiting it than there is behind stopping. It is very difficult to measure the amount of money that there is behind stopping it. It is very easy to measure the vast amounts of money that there is around making the thing. I don't know if it's in the dock, but there was, I'm scrolling.

I don't know if I see it. There was a data breach at Framework. Did you see that? These types of things happen all the time. Yeah. I'm not blaming Framework here. I didn't, I haven't actually read the statement yet. I don't know the details behind it.

I know. None of the details behind it. We should probably look that up now that I mentioned it. I'm looking it up now. But it's just like, oh, man. You do what you can. And then things are going to break out from there. Like how much, and I can understand the like super pro consumer move is going to be like,

oh, it should just, you should, there should just be no problems. It's like, okay, sure. But damn. The best way to resolve this is just not have a smart TV. That's pretty sick. Oh, that is extremely inconvenient. We're seeing like the names, email addresses, phone numbers, and physical addresses due to an incident at a company that provides business intelligence.

Oh. Come on. No payment information. So that's a small saving grace. But all of that other stuff is not good. Bottom line, not good. Did they say who? All I have done is read this tech crunch article.

I don't mean what users. I mean what business were they partnered with. Doesn't say. Yeah. That blows. MTA base Cat OAS said MTA base I don't know what that is

all your MTA base are belong to us Open source AI analytics You can verify Oh meta base Oh okay Oh okay Okay that's less scary

Than what that sounded like Initially You thought it was Facebook? No no no no I mean sorry Hold on let me go back Like just a What was that

No free cloud They leaked everyone's stuff is like the opposite of cloud. So as I wanted to chat said, oh, no free cloud. I'm like, we're not speaking positively of them. This is like the reverse of an advertisement. Anyways, whatever. A company that provides business intelligence.

Oh, yeah. Sounded really, really spooky. That's why I wanted to figure out who it was. Analytics Platform, they just jammed AI into it for marketing. Yeah, of course they did. Yeah. I mean, I even noticed that kaleidoscope thing we were talking about earlier. But yes.

Cladiscape thing. Collidescope's a totally different thing. No, yeah, for sure. They had, um, they had, they have some AI thing now. AI movie recommendations. Yeah, sure. Why not? Nice.

Because if the answer is going to be wrong, it might as well be confident. Um, yeah. that blows. I don't even know really why I thought to bring that up, but just like, security is rough. Security tends to get funded to a certain degree, but it's hard to just keep pouring more and more money into it. And I mean, this is a, this is a side topic. To be clear, we're not saying just stop locking your doors because someone will break into it anyway. Yeah, no, not at all. But also, there is a degree to which the investment just doesn't make sense to keep going. And that problem happens at basically every company,

so we are going to constantly see these breaches. This one seems pretty brutal. Physical addresses is rough. Being able to tie names to physical addresses is not cool. But just do what you can, you know, separate password on all the different websites, etc., etc. Parallelogram says, I leave my door unlocked so Santa can get in easier. That clearly would not have saved you in this case, but do what you can. What, leaving your door open for Santa wouldn't have saved you?

No, separate password. It wouldn't have made a difference. Nope. All right. Let's talk about Rockstar. Yeah, what? Grand Theft Auto 6, an extended look. We'll stream exclusively on Netflix on August 27th

before being released, and this is the kicker. On Rockstar's YouTube channel and website, six hours later. There are so many layers to unpack here, Luke. I understand less now than before you started talking about it. Okay. I thought it was going to be exclusive at first, and I was like, ah, maybe. For six hours, I have no idea what money, if any, changed hands.

But what I can tell you is that if there was any media property that existed in the entire world ever that could have a six-hour exclusive window that would generate real meaningful phomo i cannot miss this right now immediately traffic it would be gta six i think that netflix is going to be a huge winner for this so many ads had to load that it like lagged the whole website out but i am now down at the comments people are definitely upset about this. I have to wait six hours to know about

which to me is kind of funny because it is six hours and it's a trailer. Okay, the presentation is expected to offer a closer look at GTA 6 than fans have seen so far. Rockstar and Netflix say it will die deeper into the game's world, characters, and story

ahead of its November 19th launch. Naturally, GTA fans have criticized the decision to debut the extended look behind a Netflix subscription. It seems wicked smart. People will buy Netflix subscriptions in order to see this. Well, not only that, too.

Insane. You probably have more people talking about the fact that a trailer is coming than ever before. Can I, can I get out? Can I, for a moment, can I talk to you guys for a second? Are you a GTA fan? Do you love GTA? Okay, don't fucking buy a Netflix subscription

just to watch this. Please. You can speak with your wife. it here. You can just wait realistically six minutes because that's how long it's going to take for this to be

on every piracy site on the entire earth. Don't do anything crazy here. Just appreciate a talented player playing the game and don't participate in the game.

Just be like, you know what? Good move. They got us to talk about their stupid trailer. So, you know, game, appreciate game. Don't give them any money for it. You don't have to. Okay? And you don't even have to like the game. Okay? You can hate the game. And I don't mean the game GTA. I mean them playing this marketing game. You can hate that. Either way. Just don't give them any money for it. It's fine. Give them no money. Give them no attention. And just watch it six hours later. Okay? That's it. I love this. This is great.

Rocks after announcing announcement for an announcement. And then it just does the money printer thing. Oh, so good. So good. So good. So good. Love it. Yeah. I, wow. Honestly, I probably won't even watch this on the day that it comes out. And that's fine. Because who cares? Who cares?

I don't know that I'll watch it at all. Just in case it might have some spoiler. Because I actually like the GTA story lies are usually pretty fun. I'm also not going to play the game when it comes out On consoles I'm not read the back of the book guy I'm not against it But I usually just don't like I don't actually care too much about spoilers But I also don't feel a need to go out of my way to find them

If that makes sense Yeah okay okay okay cool If I don't see a trailer it's also totally fine I care like irrationally about spoilers Like in the movie theater I will put on my AirPods Crank music and close my eyes until the previews are done Avoid the trailers

Yeah I won't want to a trailer for a film that I want to see. If it's just like some crap slop thing that I don't care about and I'm not going to watch, then I'll watch the trailer because realistically it's probably got all the best parts in it anyway. And then I really don't have to see it. But if it's something that I know I want to watch, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I've had stuff spoiled for me and I just didn't really care, I think usually. It's not so much that I've had stuff spoiled for me and I've cared so, so, so much. As that I've had experiences where nothing was spoiled and it ended up being so much more magical because of it. So the best example I have is Thor Ragnarok. I didn't know that Bruce Banner, the Hulk, was in the film. Because I hadn't even seen a poster.

Was he in the posters and stuff? Yeah, but I hadn't seen one. Nice, that's cool. So I managed to make it all the way to the Colosseum scene going, who's going to come out, who's going to come out, who's going to come out? That seems like it might be a cool moment. And the film works you up to it for like minutes,

which feels so stupid if you knew who it was going to be because if I had even seen a poster, I would have known. But instead, I had no idea. That's pretty sweet. And Hulk comes out of there and I'm like, no way! It's amazing. Tor Dirk said my former spouse spoiled end game for me

and I love that he included former. What, did she tell you the good guys win? I like to imagine that's part of the. reason why. I think the only time I can really think of where a spoiler like actually kind of pissed me off was Hedwig dies. Do you remember that whole thing? And I did hear about it before I read it and I was like, bro, what? Yeah, that just sucks. It's so unnecessary. Because that's not even like Dumbledore dies like like kind of you know we knew it was coming. Yeah. Yeah. The old guard had to go

so that Harry could complete his arc. Yeah. That was just like People yelling spoilers in chat. Like, you know, the beloved bird, which is gonna hit this man. So hard. A ton of bricks this man. I didn't have birds yet. He doesn't give a fuck that the twins die. That doesn't matter to him.

Only one does. Oh, one, whatever. Whatever, it doesn't matter. The point is, it's a meaningless human. We're talking about a bird. Animals in general, yeah. A beautiful white bird. An owl bird. An owl? The purest of creatures.

What are we talking about? Birds that die. And avoiding them. Fantastic birds and where to not kill them. Fantastic birds and where to bury them. Oh my God. Hopefully all my chickens are alive right now. Spoiling movies while complaining about spoilers.

First of all, book. Second of all, that movie came up 10 years ago. More than that, I think. The one where Hedwig dies? No, that might have been 10 years ago. Oh, my God. I'm pretty sure it was a lot more than 10 years ago. Was the first one 2001?

I think we're a lot closer to 20 years ago, dude. Not 10 years ago. No, it was 10 years ago. Move on. No, move on. Don't Google it. Which one? Which one does head...

Which movie does Headwig die in? Seventh. Deathly Hallows. Part 1. Okay, when did Deathly Hallows Part 1 come out? You on it? Yeah.

Okay. 2010. Fuck me. A lot, not a lot closer, but closer. I'm closer without going over. Price is right rules. I win. Wait.

Yeah. Yes. But that's Price's right rules, which is dumb. Them's fighting words. I think you've upset a lot of people just now. I think those people are fine to have been upset. I don't think...

I think they're justified. I think they're justified. You didn't define the rules ahead of time, which is why it's dumb. It's always Price's right rules. Nope. Dan, back me up on this. Linus is right.

No, no. I'm the closest without going over. You're the one that said the rules are dumb. It rounds up. I'm going to leave, man. I'll talk. You can't round up 16 years. I told you not to Google it.

You didn't listen to me. So you're just upset about it. So now everyone's upset. Where to go, dude. Wow, this has really divided the community. Headwigs dead and Linus was right. Friday's ruined. All right.

I think it's time for us to explain comms. Guys, if you are. new to the WAN show. Welcome. Hey. Thanks for watching the WAN show. Yeah. Here on the WAN show, we don't do like super chats or Twitch bits or any of the kind of

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a little something like that, or who, oh, there it is, or who will reply to it himself, or he might curate your message for me and Luke to respond to. Dan, do you want to show the folks what curated messages look like? Or no, wait, no,

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Oh cool Which is finally formal acknowledgement that no, we did not in fact rebrand Megapro's product. We worked with them, including on very real patentable engineering to make a better freaking ratchet that people, hundreds of thousands of people are enjoying right now. It's a pretty freaking awesome product. And now it glows under UV light. UV light not included. Insider tip, by the way, if you sign up at LMG.G slash nuclear signup, that is nuclear, not nuclear, you can get 10% off instantly, or you can save your discount for when the nuclear screwdriver launches. You'll also be the

first to know when it drops. And if you're looking for a deal right now, and you don't necessarily need the new nuclear colorway, the mystery screwdriver is $20 off this weekend only. So right now is a great time to grab a mystery screwdriver. On the U.S. store, that's $49.99. And on the global store, that is $69.99, Canadian dollars, which is actually a pretty good deal. This is Perfect. If you've been wanting an LTT screwdriver and you don't mind a little bit of mystery in exchange for a great deal, the pricing ends. Monday at 9 a.m. I assume that's Pacific time. Oh, look at that. And order any ratcheting screwdriver and get free screwdriver grip tape when both are added to the cart. So those are great when you're using gloves. Yeah. So we've gotten a lot of feedback from technicians who use gloves, especially like aircraft folks, automotive folks, that they can find the smooth outer body a little bit smooth with gloves. And especially if you get some oils going on.

And like a canvas glove. So the grip tape is like, it's like a skateboard grip tape. It's very grippy. And it's now included free with your order of a mystery screwdriver. So great time to go check that out. Dan, do you want to show us a couple of comms that you curated? Yeah, I've got a few here. Howdy, DLL.L.

With the RAM cartel staying for a while. Forever. Do you think framework or valve plus other OEMs should form a co-op or buyer consortium? or invest in fabulous memory and open CXL-L-P-C-A-M-2 question mark, saving for socks. They're welcome to try. Yeah, I don't think it's... It's no amount of... So, okay, it's all about leverage.

Okay, let's talk about leverage. If framework and Valve, and let's say a real player, like Dell, okay? all got together and went, we're not going to buy your memory, Micron, unless you give us a better price. Do you know what Micron would say? That's nice. Go fuck yourself. I'll sell it to someone else.

Because right now, those companies have absolutely... Way too many buyers. No leverage. They have zero leverage against, quite literally, all of the DRAM players who have all of the leverage. making matters even more complicated in a situation where there is limited supply. An alliance, like the aforementioned idea with Framework Valve and Dell and whoever, wouldn't last very long because the second that Micron came back and said,

Hey, hey, Dell, you're not really that good friends with these guys, are you? I mean, these Framework guys, they're trying to make you look bad. They're making their laptops all upgradable and shit. You don't want any part of that You want people to buy a whole new XPS every time they get a new laptop Tell you what You just drop your friendship with them

You unfriend them on Facebook Make me your new friend And I have all the leverage So you're just going to pay the normal price But I'll give you some supply That way you'll have some laptops to sell this quarter Your shareholders like that right When you have laptops to sell

Cool, cool, cool That's how it works And you can not like it You can be mad about it. Super legit. Be mad about it. But it's not going to change anything. So, you know, I like the, I always like the idea of, like, little guys banding together.

In fact, our prime minister likes the idea of, you know, middle powers banding together for more leverage. But it only works in situations where those middle powers can increase each other's strength by working together and trading with each other. In a case like this, where we're suggesting that. that competitors, like direct competitors, band together to gain leverage against a much more powerful entity. Which can happen and does happen. Isn't going to happen right now. Not going to happen right now, not in this arena.

Yep. But is absolutely a thing because there are people that will not join that group, which are going to buy way dramatically more memory than the people that you just mentioned. And right now, it's less even about the price you're paying for it. and it's more about having product to sell at all. Like, that's why the contract prices are getting bid up, because if you're Dell, it is not an option to get on your quarterly investor call and say, well, there was no memory, so I guess we didn't sell any laptops.

Imagine it. So they just have to buy it. All right. Do you have a better news one, Dan? Yes. Nice. Solid. Well, that one isn't, but this one. Hello, Lanudanu. I'm loving my socks, and I'm happy to be picking up more.

I do construction, and they've been excellent. Any plans for similar products like wrist warmers or fingerless gloves? Wrist warmers. I've never heard of wrist warmers. I have never heard of wrist warmers. That's a wrist warmer. We do sell jackets. That warms too many things.

Yeah. We could cut the arms off. Is it just like a sweatband? I think so. What's, is that as, I mean, we did do those once. We did. I still have at least one of them. I got a, I got a bunch of them.

Yeah. Wrist warmers. Okay, I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up. What are wrist warmers? Oh, or are we talking like, like pain relief? They look like. Okay.

What are we talking? We're talking this? Oh. Oh. I always just thought of those as emo kid sleeves. Right. Yeah. I love the knitted ones.

Those are sick. Those are nice. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Marino wool wrist warmers. Interesting. This seems like a really neat thing that probably is not going to be on our roadmap anytime soon.

I wonder if you can market it as a way to avoid the, The like wrist rub point that gamers have. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know if I would believe that that's the best solution for that, though. No, it's probably a... We could do a wrist warmer with a PTFE bottom so that it doesn't affect your mousing friction.

Okay, we'll look into it. Pair them with the programmer sucks. Interesting. Do a bundle deal Do a bundle deal with the programming You said Please for the love of God Everyone wants them

Oh my God I mean Elijah also mentioned them unprompted Just Just to say there's market Well plain do you want programmer sucks Yeah yeah yeah you don't need to ask them We already know the answer thank you done Okay fine

Do you want do you want your waste warmers to going on with your programmers socks. Like a match. It will be so cute. Oh, my goodness. All right. We're not doing a pole float plane. Calm down.

Crop top? We already know the answer. That's all. I got that. Next more topics, please. All right. Multiple people in chat just start yelling Firefox. Firefox programming socks with wrist warmers and matching crop top.

Oh my God. Linus, you like money. right? Oh my god. I mean, I don't mind it. Hold on. I've got to check something because I don't think you've actually seen this, but we're working. I don't see a lot of the product stuff until it like lands on set for Wancho.

Okay. I get questions all the time about like, are you guys ever going to make this or are you guys currently making this thing? And I'm like, dude, I don't know. you'll know probably within an hour of me knowing. That's why I have to curate so many of these because I don't know. Yeah. Who knows? I know some of them, but very few.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to see if I can get you a picture of a thing. It's borderline. I think Ashley might still be on today, technically. But if she's not, then we're not going to get this. But we might be working on a plushy that our audience. might find extremely cute.

That's all I'll say for now. Is it a shark? I'm not going to add this. I just told you that's all I'm going to say. You're like my kids. They're like, where's mom? I don't know. Is she upstairs?

I don't fucking know. What part of I don't know was not clear? Why would you ask me further clarifying questions? That's one of those things I get just irrationally triggered by it. It's like, ask me something. I say I don't know. You ask me a follow-up question that is more specific, but the same damn thing that I just said I don't know.

If you tend to give all the context you have or not, and if you don't, and if you just say that you don't know, you might know that she's not upstairs because you might have recently come from upstairs. So they could use that to narrow their search. No. No, I tend to be an over-communicator, so there ain't no way that applies to me.

Nope, nope, I reject it. Consider it rejected. Speaking of something that might get rejected, should we go to the next topic? Um, yeah, let's do it. Is Nintendo a good company? I mean, they're good at making money. So yes.

Nintendo is offering free repairs on their consoles and accessories damaged in the 26 Kumamoto earthquake for people in... Kumamoto. That makes more sense. Kumamoto earthquake for people in eligible areas. Hakumamoto. Nope, we're wrong now. Okay.

The company is also donating 50 million yen, a roughly, roughly around 340,000 USD to the Japanese Red Cross to help with their relief efforts. The discussion question is, Nintendo takes a ton of guff. So how does this story change your image of them, if at all?

I don't think it changes my image at all. It does not. Because like they've always... I'm happy they're doing it. They've always done good guy being a good company at making lots of money stuff. Yeah.

And like corporate sort of stewardship of your community is part of that. I do think this is very cool. And that's a good thing. But I've never not thought that Nintendo is like that. Where I really run into issues with them

is around IP enforcement, rigidity and just sort of anti-consumer behavior. To their credit, they didn't lock multiplayer behind paywalls until many, many years after their competitors did. But I will die on this hill. Locking my ability to back up a save game behind a monthly subscription is fucking evil.

Is it still like that? As far as I know, yes, you still have to have a Nintendo online subscription in order to back up your save game. And when I say back up, I don't mean migrate. You can migrate it from one switch to another. That is currently supported without an online subscription. But you cannot back it up. even though their last two consoles, again, to their credit, have supported industry standard micro-SD or SD Express media formats,

which is a good thing. There is no way to put your save games on them. Wild. Deep Blue says, well, having to pay for online backup seems reasonable. Yeah, that's not the problem. I should be able to do a local backup, but you can not. wild because like you can invest

hundreds of hours in a save file like if you told some completionist on you know Tears of the Kingdom or something like that where they want to like they want to complete complete the game that oh yeah

someone stole your switch guess what no save file you should have had a Nintendo online subscription like bro I only play this game it's a single player game why do I need that

you shouldn't you should not need that yeah I agree boom there but helping people impacted by earthquake good cool um i had something that was only sort of related uh oh okay i oh man whenever my notes thing does not make its way into the dock i get very confused um i had uh i had an interesting thought on sort of customer support and like, what should or shouldn't be covered by a warranty? So I reached out to EcoB recently with an issue that I've got with some of my smart thermostats that are spontaneously disconnecting from my Wi-Fi.

And I've tried basically everything under the sun. I've tried reducing the number of 2.4 gigahertz transmitting APs that I have, which did help a little bit, but didn't make it go away completely. Ubiquity has some friendly, like, low power IoT device specific modes that you can enable and some kind of features that you can activate to make a little simpler. I've tried binding specific thermostats to specific APs that I know are close to them to make sure that they won't accidentally roam to one that's too far away and then lose the connection completely. I've tried, oh, sorry, I'm going to digress my digression here really quick. does anybody know how to lock a device through the Unify interface to a specific AP that it is not already connected to? I have been beating my head against my phone trying to figure that out.

I haven't actually looked at the desktop interface, but on the mobile interface. The only way that the only way I've seen to do it is you can select lock to AP, but it will lock to whatever it's connected to, which I've, would say nine times out of 10 when I'm going to try to lock something to a specific AP, I'm doing that because it is roamed to the wrong one. So I would think that that would be something that I could do. Anyone? I have an IOT only AP, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But yeah, I tried that. I even tried having a separate ruckus one that was my IOT only AP. Some people saying it might be desktop appable. Okay. Okay. Yes, VLAN groups. No, I'm not setting up VLAN groups for that. That's crazy. They already have a feature to lock a device to a specific key. No, it's not the only person who said that you can do it. There's other people that say you might be able to do it on desktop. Yeah, you can do it on desktop. You can do it on desktop. You can do it on desktop. Okay. Okay. There's a variety of people saying you do a desktop. Okay. Okay. All right. I'll look into that. Anyway, what was I talking about? Right. So these ECOB light. So these ECOB light. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. So these ECOB light. that I installed at my house ages ago. And so I reached out to EcoBee about it finally, because I was like, I'm at the end of my rope.

And they're like, okay, yeah, that's a known issue. And I was like, okay, so what do we do? And they're basically like, okay, well, we'll send you all new APs. Or not APs, excuse me, thermostats. And you can have, like, our, like, new equivalent of the, you could be three light or whatever the one that I have is.

And I'm like, okay. But my first question in a situation. like that is what if I wasn't me? And they said that under warranty, which is a three-year period, they would support the same swap for anyone. But I guess my question is, what is a warranty?

Which is a dangerous topic of conversation on this show. Calm down. Because to me, a warranty means... Is this a warranty? Like free of... like premature failure. That to me is a warranty.

And if it is a fundamental design flaw that is in the very nature of the Wi-Fi chip that is integrated into a product and hasn't been fixed, should that be covered for anyone outside of the three years? If it was like broken from day one and will be broken, maybe not forever. Because one of the things... Like, okay, let's... Like, it's a fundamentally flawed product. Let's be self-inflating here. Self-inflating. And look at the backpack.

Sure. There was the zipper problem. Yeah. And you guys basically allowed anyone to claim their zippers, right? Well, I mean, that was... We issued a voluntary recall of the carabiner zipper pulls, is what we did. We could have... Would you have wanted them to do a voluntary recall of their thing that you bought thermostat?

So from my understanding, it's not an issue with every AP, like with every wireless access point. But it is an issue with mine. So is that flawed enough to merit a recall? I actually don't know. I don't know if that's the right answer. That's interesting. But then if someone upgrades their AP to a new Wi-Fi 8 AP or something in the future, and it does have that issue, and they contact EcoB, should that be covered?

I don't have a firm... Because stuff can't be covered forever, right? And it was free of material defects and worked throughout the support period. But if it only worked because someone got lucky and their other stuff happened to be compatible with it, to be clear, I'm not given ECOPie a hard time here necessarily. and I think my hope, because I also just asked, hey, it's actually kind of a hassle. I actually don't want new thermostats.

What I want is for my thermostats to work so that I don't have to have a Saturday chore of going around and replacing all my thermostats. And like, maybe that's a privileged thing or whatever to not want new thermostats. I have too many thermostats. But I actually don't. I don't want another chore to do.

I just want my thermostats to work. And so what I asked them, I was like, look, the solution is actually really simple. I just have to pop it off the wall and put it back on. But when I'm doing that for like half of my stupid thermostats every like week, then it becomes a bit of a hassle. It's not something I...

Oh, that's your individual. It's having a problem diagnostic step is... And then it starts working within a minute. So I asked them, I was like, could you just push a software update that has it like... Restart. Restart at 2 a.m. every day. Yeah. Because I'd be okay with that.

Yeah. And they're like, we're working on a fix, but we don't have a date for it. So here's new thermostats. I'm like, okay, I really don't want to go run around my house, popping off and putting thermostats back on. Repair everything. More often than I have to, so that's where I'm at. So, but I don't know, it just raised this interesting question for me.

How defective is defective? And at what point does something like a design flaw reach the point where it's just like, yeah, we're aware of that, but like you're out of warranty anyway. Um, you should have said something about it sooner. Like, what's your answer for this? I have no idea. Because there's also certain products that are like,

by design are too juicy. Okay. Stop. Uh, there's also some products that by design are very like, you know, cutting edge and not necessarily super reliable. And you like know that when you're buying it.

Um, but a thermostat, I don't know. As a person who is genuinely never replaced a thermostat. in my entire life in any context, I don't expect them to stop working. Yeah, like I was, I was pretty annoyed when my nest thermostat at my,

that is now at my in-law's house, because they're living in our old house, like got like an end of life notice. And I was like, what are you talking about? It's a thermostat. It should not happen. That's insane. House infrastructure stuff like that, to me,

should just basically just work. So. Like the ones that I replaced them with, literally had a, I had a little glass container full of mercury. Yeah. And the way that they worked was like, according to where it tipped, the mercury would flow and bridge a contact and it would turn on or turn off that zone.

Like it was, it would have worked for another 150 years if I had not replaced it with these stupid ones that disconnect. Yeah. So. So like I have, I have a personal expectation that that thing keeps working and I would expect that company to replace that thing. beyond three years personally. But I also don't know that that applies

to everything, to something that is... Like I said, when I look at, I don't know what you want to call it, house infrastructure things, I expect them to just kind of keep working. Unless there is a known situation where it's like, I can't even necessarily think of one.

I don't know, hot water tanks. You're expected to replace them every fixed amount of time. Yeah, appliances. Usually that type of stuff. Even appliances, like, my God, The rate at which we're expected to replace appliances these days is actually not okay. I'm not down with that. And that's insane and a very modern thing.

But most things in your house that are like house infrastructure like something like a hot water heater, you have an expected replacement date. You're not expecting it to fail before that date. You're expecting to replace it before it is going to do so. And this is like a normal thing for homeowners. Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah, the repair tech for our.

laundry, like our washing machine, basically was like never replaced this. Yeah. Because it's like some old 90s thing. Just gonna work forever, tank through everything. And is very repairable and stuff. He was just like, because I asked, I was like, okay, that's a pretty expensive repair bill. Like, should I just get a new one? He's like, uh-uh.

Duly noted, sir, thank you. Yeah. Thank you for your service. Yeah. Have a good one. All right. Sorry, I feel like I'm obligated to say this. Amaria in full playing chat said all homeowners should be cat owners.

It's right there in the name. Homeowner, but capitalize the M-E-O-W in the middle. Home-Mea-owner? I can get behind that. I'm something of a cat enthusiast myself. It's pretty good. Pussy lover. Oh my God.

What? I'm not digging it because it's not a joke. He's been alone for a week. Cats out of the bag. I saw a hilarious tweet. It was just like men who do not enjoy satisfying a woman are objectively gay. And I was like, because there's like a manosphere thing where it's like, yeah, it's all about me. I don't enjoy, you know, helping her.

And this was like a response to it. I was like, honestly, can get behind that. Wow, that's really interesting. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, I was sitting here being like, yeah, I think that makes sense. I didn't realize there was like a counter at all. Anyway, moving on. Speaking about progressing too fast,

PS5 emulation is progressing faster than expected. With the upcoming console only release of GTA6, programmers have been working overtime to make people, PS5 games playable on PC. And we're seeing big breakthroughs in the two biggest emulators. Kitey PS5, I think is how that's supposed to be said, and Sharp Emu, Emu, whatever, with multiple fairly primitive games finally being playable on Windows, although we're a long way from ripping around in Vice City on PC.

Discussion question, do you think you would run an emulator to play GTA6 on launch? Yes. But I would not run out and buy a console for it. And I honestly, like, GTA? No, yeah, I don't think I'd want to play a console for it at all, because I'm pretty sure I've always done GTA stuff with hybrid keyboard mouse and controller. Right.

Wait, what? Yeah. So you switch to a controller, like when you're driving? Like in a car, yeah. And like plane or a helicopter or whatever. Okay. So I literally have both buttoning because most modern games, The second you do any form of input on either one, it will switch to that input device.

So the second I press the button to get into the car, I just pick up the controller and go, and it's perfectly fine. Man, that's, dude, I don't think I've ever taken a moment to appreciate the fact that modern games will change their on-screen prompts. It's according to which control method you are currently using, like immediately these days. Do you remember back when you had to care? what controller scheme the game was designed for natively because you'd get like PlayStation prompts while you're playing with a keyboard mouse you'd be like, it'd be like press whatever to perform a quick type yet

I have no idea what fucking button I'm supposed to press and I'm dead Do you know how many glyphs Steam has currently? It's over 500. No way Oh I guess that makes sense because you'd have to have every possible language of possible keyboard input and there's Xbox Pro Controller, which has grips. You could find anything to anything.

Switch joycons, Steam controller. Is there like, would you ever, would one glyph be a combo key? No, it's one button. Okay. Or action. Swiping up on the touchpad of a PS5 controller has to go on to screen somewhere because you could rebind it to something else.

Oh, man. That's why not a probably not a lot of games allow you to do rebinds as well. 500. There's too many controllers. Stop making them. That is wicked though. But yeah, I would absolutely emulate GTA 6. That would be wicked, considering it's going to take freaking forever. It's probably going to be 2027. Oh, it will definitely be 2027. Because it's coming out in November, right? Tell me this. Yeah.

Okay. I'm going to try to present as many angles of both sides of the argument as I can in one go here. Okay. Okay. So knowing that it took... countless developer and artist hours to create it. But knowing that Rockstar and Take 2 have enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens, knowing that a decision was made to make it console exclusive, but knowing that it's something that we still have the option to buy a perpetual license for it all, which is something that should be encouraged.

If you emulated it before the PC launch, would you also buy a disc or jewel case to put on a shelf such that you compensated whatever entity for that? At this point in time in my life. With my income? Yes, I would, absolutely. And that would be, like if GTS-

Over 100 Canadian dollars. Yeah. If I liked the game enough, Yeah. So you wouldn't do it ahead of time? No. I would probably... So you're a rent for free.

I would probably hold it later if I feel like it. Steam's terms. Steams terms. Oh, okay. Interesting. So I would play for like two hours. Okay. All right.

And then if I'm like, this isn't worth me buying, I'd probably stop. Because honestly, that's a good indication that I should not waste my time with this anyways. And if I'm like, this is awesome, I really want to keep playing, I would happily put $100 in the $100 machine so I could play the game more, then I'd be like, okay, cool. And then I would buy it when it came out on PC. Okay, interesting take. That was all I really needed to. I had that so ready to go, because this scenario has more or less happened before.

What was the most recent one? I don't even remember. I knew you're going to ask. I don't remember specifically, but I know I've done that thing where I'm like, okay, I'm going to hold myself to Steam's terms on this, which is I'll give myself hours. Right. I've done that before, but I don't remember the scenario. I don't remember the game. It hasn't been a long time because usually the thing is just on Steam. Yeah. Yeah. I wish it was just going to be on Steam. Yeah, that'd be a lot easier. Then we wouldn't have to have these conversations. We could just buy it on Steam. Also probably not going to be emulatable on launch anyways. I don't know, man. The community is a little voracious for this one. And that and the community is a little bit mad at Sony right now. Yeah. That's true. When we went over your thing about how it's going to be on Netflix, I looked on the...

The trailer you mean? Yes. I looked at the tweeters and almost all the comments were about, oh, there's no physical additions, you guys suck, blah, blah, people seem genuinely very angry. However, we've seen people be pretty genuinely angry about things before and quite literally nothing changed. Think back to the outrage over horse armor. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. the first mainstream PC micro-transaction. Most people don't even remember this,

but it was a cosmetic armor for your horse that you could buy an oblivion for... I think it wasn't even that much. Was it five bucks? It was pretty low. It was less than $10. Something like that. Which at the time was also laughed at for being so high.

Yes. I would like to point that out. These days, that is like decently low for a skin in a video game? $2.50. Back then, people were like, How the heck could you pay $2.50 for a stupid skin for your stupid horse? And it doesn't even make your horse less likely to die.

This is outrageous. It's just cosmetic. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Scrappy DP says, we made fun of that so much. We did. And then so many people bought it. They did.

So many people. There's so much horse armor. Yeah. Piles of horse armor. Tons and tons and tons of horse armor. Exo donut says looks cool as heck, though. I don't even think it. You looking it up?

I am trying to find a picture, but I hate it when this happens. So here's a link to R-slash games on Reddit, and I click it, and where is that picture that it previewed? Where's my darn picture? I want this picture. There you go. Killing me. Okay, well, there's your more so.

So you've got the gold and the silver. Yeah, buddy. Here's the silver kind of. That's an artistic rindexam. condition. Here's the gold. Ridiculous. It does look pretty cool. Does it?

I wouldn't pay a dollar for it, but it looks cool. You wouldn't pay anything for it. I'd get, I'd want it for free. I would do a quest for these. I'd do a quest for it, yeah, 100%. And then I'd use the silver one because the gold ones. Which ironically, I would be contributing so much more of my time than $2.50. Oh, yeah.

But I'd get the sense of accomplishment. I don't get a sense of accomplishment from I found a, I found a toony on the ground and I used it to buy this pixels. Do you get a sense of pride? From completing quests? Yeah, it's the... Well, it's not lion armor. Pride in a cup.

So I don't think so. It's the sense of pride and accomplishment quote from EA. Oh, for what? For buying a microtransaction? What? Yeah, wait, hold on. I haven't seen... I don't know what you're talking about.

What? No, you have to. You have to. You have to. I actually don't know what you're talking about. Once I bring it up, you'll recognize it. I guarantee it. Don't you have phones?

I mean, this one I know. Not EA. Hey, isn't EA owned by like the Saudi investment fund now? Did that close this week? Something like that, yeah. Neat, I remember when EA used to be like kind of Canadian or something.

Oh yeah, look at that. Saudi Arabia's public investment fund alongside Silver Lake and Jared Kushner's affinity partners. Ah, Jared Kushner, nice. $55 billion leveraged buyout of electronic arts. You know this. The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment

minus 667,000 votes? That's crazy. I don't know if I remember this. Oh, is this FIFA? No, this is Battlefront, I think. Star Wars? I think it took like Star Wars Battlefront. 400 hours of in-game grinding to afford something that you could buy for a micro-transaction.

Okay, I didn't remember the exact quote. I do remember the Battlefront Vader-unlocked. thing where it was like literally impossible or something like that. Yeah, hundreds of hours. It wasn't impossible, but it was absurd. Yeah, okay. It was very absurd. And I think that's the most downvoted comment on Reddit in history.

There was a bunch of stuff around that area. I remember I was a huge fan of the Shadow of Mordor games. I don't know if they're done making those or not, but I really liked those. Monolith doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but did the IP go somewhere, basically? Because they owned some form of like patent or whatever for the Nemesis system. Nemesis system. That was so sick. Bring back something that has that an Assassin's Creed game with the nemesis system would be freaking wicked. Anyways, the last one, the last Shadow of Morinor, the last, like, I'm guessing quarter of the game, I think basically no one played because the campaign effectively wraps up.

And you've been collecting these like premium currencies the entire time. And remember I streamed my whole playthrough. And I refused to spend any of the premium currencies because I knew this end game thing was coming when I knew a lot of the premium currencies would be used. Oh. So I was like, I want to see if you wholeheartedly and like thoroughly play the game and never spend any of them if you can do it. Like play the whole game. And the answer was like effectively no. So you wrap up the campaign and then you go into this like post campaign thing and they just wreck you. I can milk him.

Yeah. Like, hey, you got made it this far. Let's go for it. And it was horrible. I remember it was a great game up until that point. And you can tell, you can tell when the polished drops. That's one of my favorite things. Because the developers didn't care and they didn't want to do it.

So you can tell like the game ends and then they like really make it feel like the game ends. And then there's this whole other thing and it's like quality just boof. Oh, man. Yeah. Dude, that's another, oh man. Oh, do I talk about Black Flag for the third time in a row? Nope. Okay.

Fine. Let's talk about Xbox doubling down on backward compatibility. According to a leaked memo, Microsoft is working with developers to relist original Xbox and 360 games to reach the upcoming Helix Xbox PCs and Xbox handhelds through a Microsoft built emulator that will run local. Cool. Microsoft will, this is a quote,

manage all engineering, the bespoke emulator, title by title certification, and testing, storefront merchandising, and player support, while developers will keep rights, pricing, and brand control.

Sick. According to reports, this will work similarly to the current implementation of backwards compatibility on the Xbox One and series consoles where users will either

buy a new digital copy or put in the disc to verify the license and allow them to download and run the digital version of the game. Wicked. Discussion question, why would a developer not opt into this program?

They might not be able to sell the game anymore. Yeah, they might have music in the game that is too much work to replace and that they no longer own a license for. That's one I could think of, or other IP licensing, speaking of Lord of the Rings and the Mordor games and Border Brothers. Other than that, I mean... Because they might have got the right to distribute it on like a certain console. Like they might have gotten the right to distribute it on the original Xbox, but they might have. might not have the right to distribute it on this emulator thingy-mijiggy. Yeah.

Yeah. Very cool, though. Which OG Xbox and 360 games do you want to see on PC? And then Mr. Goteye said Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon are my picks. I have never owned an Xbox. So my playtime on Xbox exclusives includes like, A couple hours of Dead Rising on the 360. And, like, a little bit of Halo,

like, at a place where there happened to be an Xbox at one point. I haven't... This is crazy, especially with the new one coming out soon. I've never actually played a Gears title. Really? I have played a grand total of, like, four minutes of Gears of War. Any Gears of War. remember Xbox

basically existed inside the period where I had a bunch of kids and was doing adulting things and starting a company and all of that so I didn't have consoles

at my mom's house like there were no consoles consoles were not a thing and then I was a very busy adult so I just never really Xboxed Super Nintendo Kid I remember playing Bullet Storm

Oh yeah, we talked about that a little while ago, I think. Did we? It came up at some point. I didn't realize this was on Steam, to be honest. I thought this was console only. I think I would have played this on console. I don't remember what console this was for. Maybe I played it on Steam?

But this game was sweet. Oh, cool. Yeah, it was wicked. But it says it's on Steam, so I don't know. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly. The main thing that I would say, it was console only originally. Okay, yeah. Now that it's on Steam, I don't care about it being brought to emulation.

But I guess I would have originally said Fusion Frenzy, which they're already doing. So, yeah, cool. How did I play Halo? No, that came out for PC. It did. Did I say Halo? Sorry, Fable. Oh. Yeah, I think that, how did I play Fable?

Was it on a PC? Was Fable for PC? it's got to be eventually eventually okay I played it eventually then yeah just like I'll eventually play

GTA 6 nice cool nice solid all right speaking of consoles oh sponsors

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Linus didn't say it but I'm convinced he will Once he sees which videos they are. What are you talking about Sammy? Classic Sammy things. Nobody knows. Words put in order.

This will be a fun video though. My daughter's phone died. So her options were to have a broken phone or fix it herself. Awesome. So we ended up getting into it and she does all the work, which is pretty cool. That's sweet. I helped her with a little bit of adhesive removal, but I made her do all the surgery to do a battery replacement.

And I, like, showed her things, but no, she, she does the work. It was actually a lot of fun. We basically just kind of hung out and repaired a phone together, and you guys can come along for the ride. We also discovered that that's the look you're seeing on my face here, that her phone was broken in more ways than one. Oh.

There was a flexible piece. PCB that was severed inside it, which is not the problem we thought we had. It wasn't charging. It needed a new battery because it's like note 10. How old is the note 10? How old is note 10? There you go. Ah, yes, seven years old.

So it was time for a new battery. But yeah, there was a broken, like essentially board in it. And so I had to order a new one. I don't know how it was working. I don't know what that board did. Did you break it when you were opening it up? Nope. Huh.

Yeah. You guys will, I mean, you guys will be able to see it in the video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's your, yeah,

what's the favorite video? I don't, I don't know. I don't understand Sammy's notes, but that happens. And then, look at these notes, you guys.

How am I supposed to work with this? That's only one of two, Linus says in his, head. The second one is probably just as good to make it my favorite video ever. What is he, he says without, Favio, Favi arise. He says without the typos. So he never fixed the typos. He just added he says without the typos. The second video is the definitive ranking of every Windows version ever. Ah, yes, this is out on float plane. Let's go. Oh, okay, so I can set that to public. Uh, but uh, boom. You know,

change thumbnail. So you can watch this early. Sorry, what? You kept mousing over changed on now. It was a big blue button. How am I supposed to not want to look at the big blue button, Luke? Come on, man. Whenever we do any UI, UX things, we need to have someone with ADHD in the room.

Yeah, you should. Click right color. Bright color, click. I mean, it's right there. It's a big bright button. I don't make the rules. Button do thing I wanted to do thing. I came to do things.

Did I make it public? I think I made it public. Oh, it just takes a sec. Oh, okay. Do better. Terrible U.S. No. Do better.

No. Do better. You know what else takes a sec? Mm-hmm. YouTube. Relax. That is true. He's not wrong.

This is a lot better than YouTube. Just friggin. There are going to be some controversial choices in this tier list. I pretty much promise you. We go all... You're going to skip through it to see how pissed I need to be. Okay, that is not how to watch it. You have to watch all of them.

Where is it? Oh no, you can't show me scrubbing it. Windows XP? I can't. You better be on there. You want to show everyone? No, I don't want to show everyone the answer. All right.

Exodonit says we only care about one thing. I am looking for, but... Digital Matrix I.O. says I know Linus and I are both fans of Vista. Yeah, Jordan and I, we didn't get to the point of like almost throwing hands, but we definitely didn't agree about some Windows's and Vista was one of them. I will fight you in his stead if you like Vista. There's, dude, I don't like Vista. I love Vista.

Deal with it. He just ran into his mic. He didn't even make it around the corner. Yeah, yeah. Just wanted to disappear off camera. Oh, man. This, uh... MRO MN nailed it.

Vista was fine, lull. people's PCs sucked 100%. So true. If you had cutting edge hardware, Vista was the bomb. It was actually super stable and performed great. Arrow was amazing. Game changer. There's only... I would use Arrow today, if I could. I think there's only two changes I'd make here.

Really? Yeah. That's actually pretty surprising because I think Jordan and I disagreed about more than just two. I would... I would only up things. I would up this personally to here and I would up that to there because I think this one's problem as everybody

is saying was having worked at Best Buy at the time everyone was buying 512 meg RAM laptops that obviously we're never going to be able to run it I had to fight to get that elevated from like a C yeah so we Jordan and I

we compromised we compromised we worked together I agree most of this though I'm happy with that too the two at the top was the two things that I was coming in worried about because if they weren't there, I was actually going to be very upset. And they're both there, so I'm okay.

I'll give you a vista, but you can have those. I'm happy. I was going to be not okay if those weren't there. Good job. So I'm now fine. I can sleep properly. All right. Your face will remain unpunched.

It's funny how much we care about other people agreeing with us. Oh, I don't. You would just be wrong. That's the problem. But you could, you're so angry about it. I'd go to prison. We're such pack creatures.

It's so funny. Like we just, it would actually, I think, I think the reason is because it would, it would feel like you were making fun of my friend. Yeah. I can make fun of those.

Yeah. I don't like it when other people make fun of them. That's your tribe. It's tribal mentality. I think that's why Mac people hate it so much when I criticize what Apple does. Probably. Without like,

realizing that I am an Apple user. I'm an Apple customer. And objectively correct about how crap their products are. I'm so bad with this stuff. What's your watch? That's not an Apple watch? Okay. No, I was holding up my AirPods.

No, I know. I was wondering if you had even more stuff. I'm trying to think. Is there any other Apple in my life right now? I really liked the MacBook Neo, but I have just had to move on so that I can review other products and doing its challenge and stuff.

Yeah, I can't think of anything. anything else Apple in my life, their monitors are just so far behind, like just utterly irrelevant. Which is kind of funky, because they really weren't. Yeah. They really set like the bar for quite a while. Their desktops are like really great for certain use cases that are not super relevant to me right now. Like if you're an AI guy, Max Studio is, well, at least was the bomb before they EOLed the top RAM configuration and adjusted their pricing dramatically.

and then like the Mac Mini is one of the best values in tech even at the higher pricing but I have like a really nice desktop I don't really need the best value little tiny desktop I know there's a lot of really good things just mostly mostly doesn't really work for me that much uh what else am I supposed to be doing oh my god there's more um I personally wait what I personally love the bloatware and inane UI decisions on Windows 11 hashtag ad this isn't my notes. What am I supposed to do with this? I think he means insane. If you want more vibes, what about some board games with team boomer, Reese and Riley, versus team zoomers, Peter and Ashley, where they play

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So it seems like this decision is very much not going to change regardless of how much gamers are upset about it and probably it will not affect Sony's business. at all other than some snarky tweets. And, um, speaking of things that have affected businesses. Yeah, hit me. Halo Studios sees layoffs after shipping campaign evolved. Numerous employees that had been on the project,

uh, have started posting on LinkedIn that they've been laid off. Reviews of the game, um, have been generally favorable with Polygon calling it one of the best remakes of all time. That's like, that's like, that's like it being a Monday night and me telling Yvonne these are some of the best reheated leftovers of all time like I that is such a that is such a backhanded compliment anyway

also just like yeah carry on me struggle to agree with that to be completely honest sure I mean either way I just no for sure can you imagine can you imagine how easy it would be to make out all five of her finger marks on my face if I were to say something like that. Because I've talked before about how Yvonne and I have, like, a very honest relationship. Like, if something, if she makes food or if I do a job around the house and it is not up to standard, we will tell each other. We'll just be like, yeah, it could be, it's a little too salty. Because without honest feedback, how do you improve?

How do you do better for each other? But that is such a fucking passive aggressive bullshit thing to say that I just, I don't even think it's just goes they said. Sales have been somewhat mediocre. Joker with numbers at just 1.5 million copies sold 900,000 on Xbox, 425,000 on PS5, $212,000 on Steam. The fact that it's on PS5 is really the interesting part of this, because it's a Halo game that's on PlayStation.

That I think didn't get talked about enough. Those numbers seem really high. Do they? For 1.5 million games sold for a remake, you didn't even have to... Yeah, but for a Halo game? No, for sure. I mean, there's definitely different perspectives on that number. Yes.

That's either like... I'm not looking at it in the context of a Halo game. Depending on who you are, a million and a half copies is like completely life changing or absolute complete fucking disaster close-up shop. I'm looking at a million and a half copies sold for something where you didn't have to come up with a story. You didn't have to think of different mechanics. It was all kind of there.

And honestly, it was missing a lot of things from the original game, which is one of the reasons why I have honestly a kind of a rough time accepting the one of the best remakes of all time. Of all time. I mean look if the standards are like Warcraft 3 Reforged like what are we what are we talking about here? It's but that's not one of the best. Apparently they fixed that by the way. I haven't tried it since then. Interesting yeah. Apparently it's better now. I'd be interested in someone actually trying to rank the best remakes because I have a hard time I have I don't think it's one of the worst at all but I have a hard time saying that it would be one of the

best remakes. That seems unlikely. Anyways, Xbox sales numbers include Xbox GamePass members who bought the Premium Edition upgrade. And we do have to remember that there would be people who just had the

Game Pass and did not buy the upgrade. So the numbers are actually a lot higher. Right. But not in actual sales, because ha ha ha, ha, you made the whole thing. Anyways. Games Beat reports that an Xbox source told them that no layoffs have occurred at Halo Studios and there are often external contractor shifts that happen after a game shifts. This is what people are noticing. Okay.

Games Beat also stated this was not an official comment from Microsoft. That does make sense, though. So, okay. A lot of contractors also do call it a layoff when their contract ends, even though it's not accurate. I am, I'm going to present a thing I read. I'm not taking a position on it, but I felt it was a very interesting thing that I read, and I just want to talk about it. Basically, I came across a post, I think it was on Reddit, but it was from someone who allegedly claimed to be like a blue collar worker in the construction industry and had been their whole life, and their perspective on the way that Game Studios will release an acclaimed money-making game and then lay off a bunch of the people who worked on it was

yeah doy when me and my bros build a bridge most of us don't hang around to maintain the bridge and sometimes there's another bridge to work on immediately and sometimes there ain't and that's just the nature of the business why do these white collar workers expect a different standard than we get. And I didn't have an immediate gotcha response to that. I kind of do. Yeah, I want to hear it. So my counter to that would be that you, there might be a lot of ignorance in my statement. I feel like if you're building a bridge, you're hiring a bunch of trades. Yeah, you are. A lot of those trades will be people who are, like it's contractors and subcontractors and things like that. These are people. in the industry. I know it's a bridge. This doesn't directly apply, but you're hiring a journeyman

plumber who knows how to do his thing. If you're applying him in a certain way, it's you're following the job, you're building to spec. When you're making a game, the things that you're going to be doing is weirder and how that team works really well together is going to change. I know I was watching like the rebuilding of the trade center in New York. Yeah. And they had scorer. squads that were working on that, that were like guys that did go job to job, but they stayed together as a unit. Yeah. And they had, they had like the iron workers at the top.

It was really, actually, really fantastic to watch. It was really cool watching these guys work and seeing how, like, well executed the build was and the trials and tribulations that they went through and stuff. But this was a group of people that, like, these two dudes had been working together, like, basically their entire professional lives. Yeah, they went from job to job to job. Yep. But they were as a unit as they were.

went through. And I think there's a lot of that in the, in the construction space where you'll have people who kind of float around together. In the software element space, it doesn't necessarily happen at all. And if you have a team that you know can execute, especially at these bigger studios, there should be something else that they can go work on. If you're looking at Microsoft, they own so many IPs that if you know that you have a team that works well and executes well, why aren't you just floating them off to some other project? I don't know. Literally, I don't know.

It was an interesting perspective, and I do see a lot of differences, and I think you've highlighted some of the ones that occurred to me, but I also see some more similarities, just like in game development, where you'll have your parent company that owns multiple studios, that each manage multiple teams and that are working on different IPs, in much the same way, like, you could, again, in the construction industry, you talk about how your, like, your subcontractors might actually be groups of people that work really well as a cohesive team,

but in much the same way that a group of developers who are working on a particular project or IP at a studio that is under, like, a major, you know, IP holder, like a Microsoft or whoever, just like those guys might be scattered to the high winds if they run out of stuff that they're assigned to, the exact same thing can happen in trades as well, where people will regularly get laid off, like sometimes even seasonally, like on a cyclical basis from the company

and the people that they work with very regularly, and then the next season comes around, and buddy who runs the company is like, hey, I know we laid you off in September for the winter, but guess what? The snow's a fun, and we're getting back to work. It's pretty common that you even know that contract is coming up because he'll be like, well, I'll come back next summer or whatever.

Yeah. Next spring. Or don't, and we'll figure it out. What kind of thing? Yeah, I think they're just very different. I think, like, if you look at how a pool of programmers might work, the different game engines and stuff, whatnot, not usually if if you're in like Canada you're going to have building code for Canada if if I'm

building a game if I worked on battlefield and then I want to go work on doom yeah it's different they're both shooter games yeah but it's not the same thing it's so different yeah so like I I don't know I I do find it kind of weird yeah I don't know I just it was it was an it was an interesting perspective. It is an interesting perspective. That made me think about it in a potentially slightly different way because, you know, to me it was always very black and white, right? You're making so much money on this project. It was so successful and it was so good. It felt like punishing the people who contributed to the success. But also there are parallels in other industries where it isn't seen that way.

Okay, but here's... And I just wanted to wrap my brain around why we see it that way here and we don't see it that way here, we do here, we don't there. I genuinely do think it's actually a really good point to bring up. Yeah. One of the big reasons why I don't think it applies is if the game does super well, make another one idiot is like the thing that I would say. And if you're going to make another one...

I would say the same thing applies to bridges. No. I mean, the amount of economic activity that they can contribute to, places that invest in infrastructure? You can't just infinitely make bridges. So now are you shipping around this like multi-hundred-person team? And they can never have permanently rooted homes. Like I think a lot of times you're hiring local workers when you're building a massive

bridge. Sometimes you are. Sometimes you bring people from the outside. Sometimes you're not. The guys who did our flooring at Smash Champs, they came in from the interior. They actually were staying in Airbnbs while they worked on the project, which was very surprising to me. And it's not super far away.

But like my... Isn't that a super specialized thing? So my brother-in-law is another example where they did highly specialized bridge painting, actually, not bridge building. But like bridge paint treatments, and they were all over the place. I would guess if you were building a bridge that you would have a specialized team who has gone around and built a bunch of bridges, which is the smaller core team, and then you would hire a bunch of local trades to support things. It would almost certainly be a combination. because especially on the design side.

Like I would imagine there's like, you could probably count the firms who are qualified to design gigantic large-band bridges in the world on like your digits. Yeah. But then in terms of like, you know, who actually, you know...

Like I noticed this, wow, that was horrible. Sorry. Sorry. I know, I was in, I was in Japan and then immediately... For those just listening, Luke cracked his neck without even like using his hands, he just like, odd-jobbed it.

Like, oh my God. Anyway, sorry, carry on. I was in Japan and then immediately went to Taiwan afterwards. And I noticed that the train systems feel oddly similar. Oh, yeah. Okay. And not exactly the same, but they're very similar. To the point where I was like, man, I bet you the same, they share some amount of expertise here.

Maybe some people, maybe it wasn't the same company, but maybe some people who worked on one, went and also worked on the other. They're clearly sharing some of the same ideas. But I bet you like someone mentioned, well, there's union as a thing. I don't remember who that was. I can pretty much guarantee you that they're working with local expertise as well to flush it out. Yeah.

And you could compare that to the video game thing. Yeah. And I mean, again, we're not talking about that every single person who worked on the project that is successful just immediately gets laid off. In some cases, it does happen where like the studio just gets closed and you look at it. kind of, what was that? Microsoft is pretty well known for that. But in many cases, it's not actually like that.

It is more like, yeah, some people we don't need anymore because the project is done are now gone. And should that just, should that be something that is expected? That when the project is complete, like, QA testers are one that come up a lot. It's like, okay, the project's done. And they immediately laid off all the QA tester. What the fuck are the QA testers going to do for the next two years while the next project is in the early stage of development? at like Microsoft, I would kind of expect you to have a QA testing team that jumps from project to project. Would you though? Why? Why? Why not? Because I don't necessarily want the same QA testers for a first person shooter that I do for a strategy game.

I think you could. You could, but I don't necessarily want that. What if I... I don't even think it's a bad idea. Why wouldn't you want that? Because I might want someone who's more specialized in and more experienced in QA testing a different type of game. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think that's needed. It might not be needed, but it also isn't crazy. I think it could be either way. could drop off some people, but I think that's a way to lose. I think those are not as specialized different. Like, I don't think those are as different specialties as you might think they are. It's not a matter of how much I do or don't think they are. If there is literally any optimization, if they are 10% different. So this is my argument is I don't think it's optimization. And my reason for that is that I think you're losing a lot in the process of rehiring these groups. And that's why I said maybe you drop some.

But I think losing your core team can be really brutal. I think this happens on the development side. I'm sure it happens on the QA side. I think it's basically all over the place. The thing that's most surprising to me is that if you had a team that you know can execute, maybe the window's too big. Maybe the windows years or whatever. Yeah, I don't know.

But if you have a team that you know can execute, the gamble of them not doing that next time, which we have seen multiple times, and the gamble of, not the gamble, but the expense of need to go through hiring processes to rebuild this whole team, I think is sometimes not paid enough attention to. It takes a long time to build the team. It takes a long time to get that team working cohesively together. You're going to have a lot of duds. I think people look at the software drill ministry right now and go, oh my God, there's been so many layoffs. There's so many

people looking for jobs and go, wow, it must be extremely easy to hire really good people right now. it's not actually really how that works yes just because there are good people looking for work doesn't mean that they're the right fit for a thousand reasons they might not be in the right region they might not have a I I'm sorry I'm gonna stand behind that I don't necessarily want the same people doing QA on a strategy game and a shooter game just full stop

they might not have the right specialties and if I'm hiring someone I'm gonna hire the most qualified candidate and if someone has many years of experience working on the same genre that I actually want them testing. I'll take that one over the other one. I don't think that's usually how division and testers works. I think you might not, and I don't either. I think you might know less about how QA testing for games works than I do,

and I don't know a ton. Usually it's not based on, I don't think it's generally based on genre. I mean, it depends on what you're doing. I'm talking specifically about play testing. And there are people whose job is to like go around and try to find in visible walls and stuff that they can go through. And they have to be very methodical. They have to document everything.

So there's definitely going to be aspects of the skill set that are going to be common across all of them. But if it's a puzzle game and someone's never done QA for a puzzle game before, yeah, I'd rather have someone who has. Okay, I said QA. Play testing is part of QA, and that's specifically the part that I had in my brain, which I never communicated. Okay.

So that's a really good point. And I'm glad we bridged that gap. I no longer care, yeah. Because there's a big difference. Yes, I'm glad we bridged that gap. In QA, I don't give a... If someone's played basketball games before or not, I care that they have experience with the engine.

Sure. Communicate appropriately with the development team, stuff like that. Sorry, I specifically meant the playtesting aspect of QA. Playtesting, you're going to want a range. You're going to want people that are super familiar. You're going to want people that have never played this type of game before. want a bunch of different stuff. So Crystal brings up, think about your own company.

You wouldn't lay off your editors after a video comes out. And it's like, that's true, but also completely irrelevant. Because our business model is built on a continuous pipeline that has many projects that are in various stages so that the second that a project is completed, a new project has progressed through the pipeline and is ready for that person to work on, which has its own issues because there can be burnout from that because there's always something to work on. There's there's always a queue of things that need to be worked on. So there's there's problems both ways. Whereas like the we work on this for many years and then we have like a big launch.

Oh, and it's finally done is just such a completely different business model that I don't think you can compare them. Here's a question for you. Yeah. I was trying to think like how could we draw a parallel to here? And I was thinking, okay, if you did like a documentary or something. thing, like a one-off documentary and you had to staff up for the documentary. When the documentary was done, you might not be planning on doing another one. Not necessarily. Yeah, I might let those people go. But I also thought in that case, you'd probably just contract them. We'd be upfront about it. Contracting is complicated though. It is. As you know. But I think the construction industry does a lot more of that, I think. Well, they do because it's a lot of it is about hiring a company to do something

versus hiring a person to do something. So when you hire a company to do something, you maintain a level of liability and HR and legal distance from it and PR distance from it. As far as I can tell, this is a huge part of the reason that a multinational, like a Samsung or an LG,

like we're talking like huge companies, although ignore the specific names. But most of the huge companies that I've worked with, instead of just having all of their internal PR and marketing strategy handled by name badges, right? They will hire external agencies. Because what that does is it makes it so that if something goes wrong, oh my God, they're not like an employee with all of the red tape

and all of the hassle that goes along with that. we can just terminate our contract with the company that those people do work for, and then if ultimately they have to perform layoffs, well, that's not our problem. And if this marketing campaign, you know, works with like a known PDF file or something like that or whatever, we can basically go, oh, we didn't know. That was our third party digital agency and we terminated our relationship with them. Like it creates that firewall. which is often intended to be used in the way that you just described.

Like they're planning that way ahead of time and they want to point that finger. In much the same way, a major construction project hires a company whose job it is to provide benefits and gainful long-term employment for all the people who work for it. And they go, yeah, this is our entire commitment to you. You do this. We give you this money. That's it. It's interesting. I've wondered before because I've noticed that there seems to be a pattern.

I don't think it happened this time. but I, or maybe they partnered with something. I don't remember how the Halo 1 went, but I've noticed there seems to be a pattern that remakes are often made by outside studios. Like, I'm pretty sure Warcraft 3 Reforged wasn't even Blizzard. No, I don't think it was.

And this is like super common. And I wonder if part of that reason is because of what you're talking about. If you're making a remake, you're probably not planning on making another one right afterwards. No, workforce was primarily Blizzard Entertainment. You've got to be kidding me. I thought it was an outside thing. According to AI, hold on, hold on.

No, developers, Blizzard Entertainment, Lemon Sky Studios. Hold on there was more than one. Lemon Sky Studios. What the devil's a Lemon Sky Studios? No idea. Okay. Well, according to Wikipedia, which I trust more than AI,

there were multiple developers. Blizzard intended, along with the desire for them to develop Starcraft remaster, remastered, a generally pure remake in contrast. This was intended to be less pure. Oh, okay. So it was like bad by design, apparently. Lemon Sky Studios did most of the remastered 3D art assets. So that's, no, no, this one's on Blizzard.

Sorry, yep. Wild. Okay. Well, I had the wrong memory of that. But I think this is a pattern I've seen before. And ports too. Ports often. Done by rando third parties.

Totally. But that's probably a one-off thing. You don't necessarily want to train your staff up to learn how to port a game that you're going to do once real quick and then move on. Yeah. I don't know. It's an interesting problem. I can definitely understand a team reduction.

if you're not doing a call of duty or what they used to do with Assassin's Creed or whatever else, it's basically like every year. Assassin's Creed for a long time was every year. Call of Duty still, I'm pretty sure, is every year. I think so.

I know they rotate studios. So per studio, it's every two years. But still, that's a pretty quick. I think it was up to three at one point. Was it really? I think so. Don't quote me on that. I have no idea.

Yeah. So like unless you have a model like that where like, I remember hearing, I'm going to get the years completely wrong, so just insert any number here. But I think it was like four or five years ahead of time. They were planning the next Assassin's Creed for a little bit there. I'm sure they're doing similar things with Callow Duty, where they have teams working on things like starting to cook ideas,

designing, planning, storywriting. Keep in the pipeline full. And then once they're done that type of stuff, then developers can start chewing on the problem. And it's this like big cyclical machine. unless you have something like that. If you're launching a game, you have no plans for a second one. The game goes super hard and then you're like, oh, man, we should do a second one.

The time gap between when you can actually really start development might be really big. Might also be really short. It depends on what type of game you're making. And what teams are needed at every stage? With that said, I mean, Nintendo manages to make the model work, where they just keep super talented people forever. With that said, I mean, part of that just seems to be the very different culture around workplace loyalty both ways in Japan compared to in the West or really anywhere else. I mean, you've got, you've got Japan.

Cat O'West keeps bringing up Valve. Yeah, I really don't. Valve is such a- Wildearn. Weird, outlier. Like, they just don't hire in the first place. So who is it that they were supposed to lay off? They don't hire.

They barely even make games anymore. Yeah, what are we even talking about? people work on self-assigned projects like it's just they're they're not a real company in in that sense like they don't have a corporate structure that would make sense or work almost literally anywhere else it's uh yeah they're they're the exception that proves any other rule pretty much um carry on sorry uh sorry d hollinger which i often read as dr hollinger um i'll reiterate fine but giving the corporate CEO money bonus for the successful product they barely worked on while letting go over to the...

We're not sitting here saying that it's a good thing. No, not at all. We're having a conversation. We're trying to understand why it happens and what the mechanisms behind it might be. And I also think that while there are corporate leaders who do jack shit all, assuming that a CEO doesn't do anything or that their work did not contribute in any way to the game's success. is entirely fair either.

With that said, I think that they were, yeah, I saw their original comment earlier, and I think they were specifically talking about EA. So that particular example, I think he took like a massive bonus. I can't get behind that, but I wouldn't make a blanket statement here. As someone who has been a CEO at some point

and who has hired a CEO, there could be a situation where we executed a major project, there were redundancies at the end of it, and that was the plan the whole time, and then the company made a but ton of money, and the leadership who guided that project through to completion could be deserving of a bonus. Yes, I actually could see something like that.

In that particular case that you brought up, it didn't, the optics weren't great at the very, I really think so the Andrew Wilson Battlefield thing, apparently his bonus was $8 million more, largely because of the success of Battlefield 6. It was a $38.7 million bonus in general. Oh my God. That's a lot of money.

For me, if I'm looking at that, I want to apply the, I know it's six and Battlefield's been coming out since I was a wee lad. So it's not coming out exactly as fast as Assassin's Creator Call of Duty. But I'm looking at this thinking, are you not going to do a Battlefield 7? If you're going to do a Battlefield 7 and it did super well, I would really want to keep on a lot of the people. and no, maybe not every single person can directly contribute towards the release of a game right now,

but you can have people working on improving systems, ideating things, oh, your art teams, you don't have specific things for them to draw yet. Just have them try to come up with cool ideas. Like, there are things that you can do to try to help people brain reset anyways and just kind of get prepared for a Battlefield 7. And I don't think you have to drop everyone off. I think there are a lot of unnecessary layoffs in the gaming industry. I also think it is. way more cutthroat of an industry

than people that even think it's a cutthroat industry even realize. Oh, it's brutal. It's insane. Well, it's a passion industry. Yeah. Like, just tough. Whenever there's an unlimited pipeline

of new young recruits who want to get into it, that's what you're competing against. And you don't, you know, necessarily want to see it that way or you might wish it wasn't that way, or however it is that you kind of feel about that, won't change that there's a finite number of jobs at these companies, and everyone who wants it is a potential candidate for them. I genuinely think this is why a lot of the quality of AAA games

seems to be kind of going down. It's because they keep cycling these teams, to be honest. I genuinely think it's a big part of the reason why, because this was not as common in the past. in as far as I can tell. Obviously, I don't work in this industry. But in the past, didn't have these like mega,

mega, mega concord sized projects. That's true. Mega projects back in the day were way smaller. But you see, like, one of the things I've talked about in the, in the, exclusive gaming industry videos

that I've made for Luke Weeks is that a lot of the really sick games that are coming out are teams that are splintering off from these companies. but staying together. Yep. Like Expedition 33 is a perfect example.

And Arc Raiders. Yep. One of the biggest FPS games right now is a split off from... Casually pretty successful game. Yeah. And it's these companies that are... These groups of people that are kind of probably seeing the writing on the wall

of all these layoffs and going, well, we can split off and do our own thing and stick together. And like the Arc Raiders guys, they released the finals, didn't do a big layoff, and then released Ark Raiders and the finals did pretty darn good and then Arc Raiders smashed

and it's yeah I think the like the what would you call it thesis statement I guess of those two videos that I did combined together is that we've seen this exchange

in the past we saw it with Atari as Atari was kind of going under splinter teams from Atari formed Activision and now it's kind of Activision's time where that age of company is getting to the point where people are splintering off and forming their own things and it's going well.

And it's, it kind of sucks because of, you know, the IPs that we grew up with are now in the hands of companies that are, that are floundering in a lot of ways, which is unfortunate. But this is the time of the Expedition 33's, the Balthers Gates,

the arc Raiders, the all these other teams, all these other games that are coming from not the super big names. They might be now, but before they released those games that I just named, were not super big names. If I talked about Larry and before Ballard's Gate 3 came out, no, you're talking about.

Nobody knows. So here's a question. Is it inevitable? The fact that the cycle has repeated so many times, is it just, is it the nature of larger companies to become bloated and become bureaucratic and for quality to take a hit

and for people to ultimately become human resources and for them to eventually split off? Like, is it just, is it the nature of the beast? I think somewhat, I also do wonder if it has to be. Because if I try to look around for cases where that doesn't seem to have necessarily happened, they're always weird outliers. And not North American. I mean, Valve.

Again, Valve doesn't count. Sorry, when's the last portal that released? Alex, I think, was the last game from Valve. Well, they have that new deadlock thing. Oh, that's right, deadlock. Sorry, I forgot about deadlock. Yeah. Yeah, there's some people here on the team who are like super into deadlock.

I think Reese is like hardcore into deadlock. Yeah, I've got a buddy that plays all the time. There you go. But no, I think it comes back to one of your other examples, which is Nintendo. Yeah. But they're also not doing this. layoff wave thing. They're almost unfair in a Valve way.

I don't think they're quite as unfair as Valve is, but they are almost unfair in a Valve way where people will just buy Nintendo stuff. They have like basically guaranteed money. Speaking of just buying stuff, the Nvidia RTX Spark, so those laptops and the desktops. The CPU, remember I was all excited,

about the CPU. So somehow, in all of the news about this thing, I missed that even though Nvidia is using the exact same nomenclature, like the exact same code names for their CPUs, the ones in the data center product are not the same cores at all. Somehow I missed this. RTX Spark is based on Cortexxxx925s, which are like used in some high-end smartphones, which isn't to say they're bad, there's very fast cores in smartphones. But they are not the same Neuverse cores like in the server processors, and I missed that. Also, their SMT, so they're hyperthreading, is not expected to be on the same levels as Intel or AMD. So our discussion question is, does this dramatically change what you think of the SOC and what it could be capable of?

Actually, it encourages me more than discourages me, if that doesn't sound totally crazy. because it's still going to have 10x925 cores, which are very fast cores, and I was mostly worried about the power efficiency of RTX-Py. Oh, so this addresses that. So this addresses that in a very big way, because I just could not find a way to marry what I knew so far. Because you're thinking about it in laptop format mostly, probably.

Yeah, I'm not that interested in it as a compact desktop. I'm more interested in it as a laptop right now, right now, although that might change. So remains to be seen how RTXB. X-Spark turns out, what I can say, I can say much right now, but what I can say is that the buzz seems to be pretty good. Okay. Like the behind the scenes sort of manufacturer buzz, it seems like it seems like they think they're going to sell a lot of these things, which they usually know a lot more than we do at this stage in the game. Like that's, that's one of my hacky questions. You know,

because no one's going to tell you, like a gigabyte or a Seuss or MSI or whatever, some tier one manufacturer is not going to tell you in the lead up to a new radion launch or GForce launch, you know, how many FPS it's going to get in cyberpunk. Like that's not going to happen. Nobody breaks an NDA that overtly. But what you might be able to ask is like, how excited is the sales team? You know? Right.

Yeah. Yeah. How many skews are you anticipating having of each stratum? Is that the singular of... I don't know. Stratas, whatever. At each layer. I think stratum is correct, but I'm not sure.

Whatever. Yeah, each GPU model, how many skews are you going to have? Because if the plan is one or two, that basically tells you it's a giant boatload of crap that wasn't worth devving multiple boards and coolers. because that's an investment that they have to make unless they're going to move volume of this thing. It's not going to be worth it. So there's certain questions you can kind of poke and prod at

and what I'm gathering for RTX Spark so far looks like people are bullish. But I don't know if they're just bullish because of all the AI messaging and the fact that everyone is super hard on AMD right now. AMD on AI right now. So remains to be seen. It might just be the latter, but yeah, we'll see.

You want to get, in my opinion, sad for a second, but that might even be controversial? Nope, I want happy. Okay. Let me dig for it. Those two both suck. We could talk about Valve? Sure. Let's talk about the Steam Frame.

You want to talk about the Steam Frame? Yeah, let's talk about the Steam Frame. People love it when we talk about the Steam Frame. You gotta go like that real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, hold on. Get some, yeah. Yeah, there you go.

Hold on, hold on. Let me get ready. Oh, okay. Take it. Oh, it didn't really work. Okay. All right. Valve has quietly published

Lepton and Fex on Steam, the two pieces of software that make the arm-based steam frame headset possible. They're not games or anything that you would browse to on purpose. Lepton's store link literally bounces you back

to the Steam front page. because it's a background component. Lepton is what lets Android games run on Linux, and then Fex translates regular X-86 PC games so they can run on arm chips. If you add Proton, on top of that, for Windows games, you've got the frame's whole compatibility story there. The launch signs, the other launch signs,

are also stacking up. The frame got FCC certification on July 29th. Valve has been assigning great-on-frame ratings to games, and a Steamframe compatibility list showed up as its own Steam app. The headset runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 on SteamOS, and it was delayed earlier this year over the memory shortage. Valve still hasn't given a date beyond some time this year.

But releasing these publicly, instead of hiding them in the headset's firmware, means that developers and tinkerers can start testing arm compatibility right now, which is the same open approach that made Proton the backbone of the Steam deck and made it so successful. So I'm still able to talk about this, because I can, still don't know anything, but the signs are piling up to suggest that soon I will know more than I will be able to say, and I'm

I am very excited for this team frame. He could be using cover-up makeup to cover up the red marks on his face. You notice he didn't rub them, he just pressed in, which wouldn't really remove the makeup too much. Oh, Lordy. His, his, uh, he might have needed help from a on to do that. Oh, dang. Needed help. Ah, yeah.

He might have needed help from Yvonne to do all the cover-up makeup, but her being away is actually just a cover-up because you guys might have figured that out. So she's actually, she's still here. She didn't go on that trip. 100%. Thank you for that, Luke. Yeah, no worries. Some good conspiracy theory.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Dan wants us to do the other sponsors. Man, we still have a lot of topics, though. Good Lord. Fine, Dan. I don't even understand what we've talked about so far. The show is brought to you by Odu.

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You want to pick one, Luke? Sure. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Yeah, this one. Google Assistant is shutting down on Android and WearOS in September.

Google emailed users this week, confirming that Google Assistant is being discontinued on mobile with removal starting September 4th. Once it's gone from your device, there's no switching back, and Gemini becomes the only assistant option. The shutdown covers Android phones, tablets, wear OS watches, headphones, headphones, and Android Auto when it's projected from your phone. Cars with Google built in keep assistant for now, and Google Home speakers and Google TV

aren't part of the timeline yet. The transition was originally supposed to happen by the end of 2020. but it got pushed back because Gemini wasn't ready yet. It handled questions and conversations fine, but struggled with the basic stuff. Assistant nailed like device controls and simple commands. Assistant launched back in May of 2016, so this closes out a 10-year run,

which is pretty good for Google. So far, the community response seems to be universally terrible. Good, because I hate this. I was wondering what other people's take on this is going to be. Carpentractor says, I think we may have witnessed one, of the worst consumer-facing product transitions of all time. Still, says Annie, I feel Google Assistant is superior in many things.

It is. Just a few days back, I was trying to play a particular song, and it couldn't. Yeah. Peter says, Gemini was and continues to be a bad joke. Like, I actually cannot find anyone who wants to use Gemini under the 9 to 5 Google article. When I try to use Google Assistant on my phone and Gemini comes up, I get so pissed off because it never does it right. It's slower. It can't even do simple crap like set alarms. It can't even do simple crap like set alarms.

I asked it to set an alarm, it set a timer. Oh, I've actually had pretty okay success with it for alarms. Usually it does the alarm okay. I've had it set timers, though, which is never correct. I have had it do that. And somehow, I think I've talked to you about this before, but somehow they still have. haven't resolved the natural interaction problem. I was off camera. No one got to see that. I was so close.

It was a very nice catch as well. His laptop almost biffed off the table. He caught it with his forearm. I was able to recover. It was good. It was good. Okay, here it is. Here it is.

Okay. So I'm hanging out with my sister on the weekend. So I set, I actually set three different alarms for one of the days this weekend to make sure that I get up early. Because I got to go meet her because we're going to go. somewhere and then we're going to go get lunch together. Okay. So I, back to back to back, I did this the exact same way. I talked to Gemini all three times the exact same way. One of my alarms says go see my sister's name. The other one says go see my sister's name.

The last one says to go see my sister's name. This has driven me crazy for years and it's one of my litmus tests for when they figured out natural language interaction because the way that I said it was set an alarm for this time on this day to go see my sister. Why did one of them include the two? Obviously, that's not how I wanted it to be. Obviously. It's also like I, so I am cheesed that literally the two things that I ever ask it to do, it is worse at in both cases. And slow. The biggest probably problem is that it's so, so, so slow. How is it that we aren't just moving to, like, I thought the whole point of having all these NPUs on our devices was that when we just want to do something simple, like set a fucking alarm.

Change the song. It will just happen immediately. It's the only two things I ever ask it is to change the song or set an alarm. That's all I ever want. I'm hearing that it doesn't do automations well Like I've got my morning alarm That runs a whole bunch of Google automations And I always say like

I'm getting into bed And then it does a whole bunch of stuff And I'm not entirely sure it'll still do that Look how sad he looks I'm going to get an iPhone He's adorable when he's sad Actually I'm going to the forest I'm just kind of run away

Okay Because I can't automate my lights with my phone Yeah I guess you can't I'm going If you can't do that You might as well just walk to the ocean Unique username says at Linus Google demo desks at I.O. years ago

which means it will never happen. No! Come on! It can't be that complicated. It can, but... I feel like if it was made a priority to have quick, on-device processing of the most basics. Because you've got to imagine, Luke,

that like the vast majority of Google Assistant interactions are, tell me about some, tell me about the weather or some basic thing. My kid asked me about Black Bears. I don't know anything about them. Tell me about Black Bears. So just that, setting alarms. You know, yeah, that's an interesting thing.

Assistant should just offload to Gemini when it makes sense in the same. same way that assistant used to offload to Google search when it made sense. That's the way Siri works. How about just something like, I don't know what you mean. Do you want me to try Gemini for you? Sure. Yeah.

Just ask and I can say yes and then it turns into Gemini. I would have been happy about that. I would enable that yesterday. Yeah, me too. Why not? In other AI news, I can just say no. Reddit is introducing a new moderator, AI.

Reddit announced Rules Hub on August 5th, An AI-powered moderation suite that uses LLMs to judge whether posts and comments violate the intent of a subreddit's rules, rather than just matching keywords like the 13-year-old auto-mod does. Reddit's pitch here is that an LLM can tell the difference between an insult and a movie quote, and mods choose which rules will get auto-enforced and what happens when they're triggered. They can flag it for review, filter, or remove it outright. There's a sandbox to test rules against old posts, plus logs showing why the AI acted. It's been tested in over 700 communities,

opens to all new subreddits now, and rolls out to everyone later this year. Reddit has said Rules Hub and its newer systems can eventually... Okay, see, this is the funny part. It's always funny with AI, right? Because that actually sounds pretty good. Okay, here comes the other shoe. Reddit has said Rules Hub and its newer systems can

eventually replace many of the enforcement workflows that AutoMod handles. And that's what has veteran mods pushing back, since many have spent years building elaborate automod setups that they don't want swapped out from under them. Reddit also says, better abuse prevention could let communities rely less on karma and account age gates, making it easier for genuine new users to actually post.

Yeah, but also I'd be very suspect of new users, quite frankly, and the better the LLMs get, especially local, like, cheap to run ones, the more suspicious I would be of brand new users, and actually the more I would rely on account age in karma, buried in the same announcement. Old Reddit is now restricted to logged in users, which Reddit frames as an anti-scraping protection. Cool.

Yeah, initially it sounded kind of neat, though, didn't it? Well, because the vibe that I got from the initial intro of it. With all the logging and everything and the sandbox. I thought it could run alongside or be an option. Yeah. If I can choose between this or auto. as someone who's running a subreddit, I feel like that's fine. That'd be cool.

Yeah. Maybe I run both, but I run this new thing, whatever they're calling it, Rules Hub. Maybe I run that in a way that it doesn't actually take any action so I can see how it acts. And I do that while I'm running auto mod. And if I like it, I run it. If I don't like it, I don't run it. And it is fine. Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe don't just keep ripping out all these things that definitely work. putting in stuff that probably doesn't. Hey, but here's something. Speaking of not putting in stuff that maybe doesn't work, Texas has paused new data center grid connections and ordered audits as AI-driven power demand surges. Texas is dealing with a huge wave of new AI data centers, and the demand for electricity is skyrocketing.

Regulators are looking at hundreds of gigawatts of proposed power needs, mostly from these data centers, which is way more than the grid currently handles at its busiest times. It's fine. Texas's grid is like rock solid, never has any problems. It apparently has been a little bit better lately, thanks to the boogeyman known as renewable energy,

but hey, don't talk about that. This is way more than the grid currently handles at its busiest times, raising concerns about power reliability, water use, and the impact on local communities. Our discussion question here, oh, man, I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole. Hold on, another one. Oh, interesting. Okay, I like this one.

If an AI company offered you a lifetime supply of free AI in exchange for building a data center right next to your house, would you be willing to accept that deal? No. What would you ask? What more would you ask? To leave. So just straight up NIMBY.

Okay, no. One of the problems is that I can't make that decision for everyone else that lives near me. Let's say it's just you. Let's say this is a rural area. For whatever reason, you can't move. This is your family's homestead, has been since the dawn of time, whatever, whatever, whatever. Your house is here. The data center is going to go right there.

I'm still saying no. It's just you. I'm still saying no. But I want to hear the, I want to have a conversation, though. I knew the answer. My reason is because that would make general day-to-day life a lot worse. And I don't want to use theirs anyways. What if it was the best one?

What if it was? Okay, yeah, there's, yeah, I'm not. going to win this one. I'm just, I'm trying to come up with a hypothetical situation. It's totally fair. It's just, where you consider it. I am still going to want to run local. I find running local stuff to be very interesting, very engaging, lots of opportunity there. Oh, how's your build going? I have CPU GPU and I'm, oh, I have CPU motherboard GPU. I'm working on RAM. Oh, that's tough. Yep. And I'm working on the GPU thing. Do we want to talk about that? Knowing you, let's start with CPU motherboard because knowing you, you got a deal.

Yeah, I got a pretty wicked deal. Okay. It took me over three months of shopping. Okay. Because, you know, prices have been going up and stuff. Yeah, they have. And waiting doesn't seem like the play when prices are going like this. No, but.

But I was trying to basically figure out if there even is a used market for like Thread Ripper pros in Canada. at all. And it just seems like no. Got it. Is the answer, unfortunately. You can get them from the states. You can get them from a little bit in Europe, a lot in China.

There's a medium amount in the states. There's a ton in China. China seems to ship them chip in board. That actually makes a lot of sense. It totally does. Yeah. Because you might be concerned about them being locked or whatever. Yeah.

And also just damage in those sockets. Some for reference. Yes. completely for reference on why I said locked some of the I don't know exactly what delineates the skews I don't know if it's all threadwippers I don't know if it's just thread over prose whatever yeah but some of them are actually locked to a vendor of motherboard yeah I know when I don't remember which ones but some of them released early just with some companies yeah and those are locked to those boards and the fuse actually blows yeah and it will only work

with that one and stuff yeah it's like actually super bad um so ideally they send it to you they send it to you chip in board known working and then that can help get away from the pin issues and all the other kinds of stuff anyways i went for a super reputable seller um i there was a crazy price like literally over a grand off of everywhere else more than that even on a 59 95 oh that's a nice chip yeah i did some diving into it and decided 64 Cors. Yeah. I did some diving into it.

Not only was there pretty much no chance that I was going to use it. Yeah. But the additional complications of heat and the... Octo channel DDR4. Sorry.

I believe... I believe it's... Someone pointed out DDR4. Yeah, I wanted DDR4. I'm going for 5,000 series because I wanted DDR4. Yeah, that makes sense. But there's just some complications

that came with that chip. where I was like, okay, no, this is an insane deal. I could literally flip it and probably make money, but I don't really want to deal with that. You don't need all those CPU cores necessarily. I don't need all the CPU cores. I don't want to deal with the heat. There's a few other things going on there that I just didn't want to do it.

Right. The wife approval factor of this build is going to be a thing. It matters. Okay. Carry on. Yep. So I kept watching and I kept watching that store on eBay. Oh, okay.

Because of really high reputation. Yeah. And they let this one $59.95 rip. and I also I technically bought it and then had immediate buyer's remorse and spent the next three hours researching and then was like, no, I don't want it.

And I put in a cancel request and they were immediately like, yep, no problem. That's cool. So I was like, okay, they seem kind of cool. They have a really good reputation and they posted one way cheap. I'm just going to watch. The one that I really want is a fidget 975.

Yeah. They don't have any up. I'm just going to watch. I'm just going to sit and watch. Sit and watch. Right. And they didn't have any, for a super, super long time.

And then they posted a 5975 WX and a Sage 2 for the same price that I was finding Sage 2's. And I was like, oh, okay. I'm pretty sure I bought it in like 40 minutes from posting. And I have it now. It's all good. Okay. Have you tested it with just some random RAM yet?

No real load, yeah. But I've turned it on and it works. Hathos says bad advice, but buying a gun is actually cheaper than buying RAM. I see where they're going with that. I thought it was funny. Technically, if you're getting like high points or something, buying a gun is cheaper than a lot of things.

This is not an endorsement of that strategy. Yeah, especially that particular thing. It might blow up in your hand. But anyways. Yeah, so I have some parts of it now. Do you want me to talk about the GPU plan or do I hold that? Let's hold that. Okay.

Yeah, because it's going to be a thing. There's a plan with the GPS. Yeah, yeah, but TBD. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, okay. Let's go into talking about the IC shortage. So, you know how during COVID, it wasn't just GPUs that were in short supply?

It was like any integrated circuit in general. Dude, I remember USB cables being a problem. Because the demand for anything that needed a wafer got so high because all of it was being allocated to very lucrative thing. Well, guess what? I had a conversation with the creator warehouse team because, oh, actually. Ooh, I haven't seen this version. Our PowerBank is, that's a dev connector. There you go.

That's a dev connector. Ignore that. But our PowerBank is in a very, very close to mostly completed physically and actually very close to completed firmware. where state. Nate told me that I'm allowed to, that's for simple disassembly and swapping of battery megs. So it's like one screw kind of deal?

Better believe it. Other thing. It's very close. Is this venting? That is, oh, here, can hold that up. That is what we're calling the hat interface internally for now.

We'll come up with branding for it. But it's a clip-on interface that will allow people to mount accessories to the top of it, and we're going to open up the mechanical files for that. So anything that would accept a USBPD could be adapted to live semi-permanently on one of these power cells, which I thought would be like a pretty cool use case, because we've implemented some kind of optional aspects of USBPD that are not necessarily that common, but could be very helpful for enthusiasts and hobbyists. I have a question for you. I see battery banks basically two general formats.

There's like the wide and flat and there's the basically that. Yep. Why? Why this one? Yeah. This one is because we wanted the flexibility. So the type of cells or okay.

Yeah, so we wanted the flexibility to support multiple cell types in the future in 18650 is the one where we're most likely to get future development of cells. Got it. And this made the power routing back when we were, actually this decision was made, back when we were hoping to allow cells to be replaced. But we were not able to find a battery partner that was willing to sign off on that,

at least not at this stage. It made the routing of the power easier. So it's a single board design. Everything's up here and it's a whole thing. Yeah, okay. Do you want to talk about some of the hats? I guess this isn't really a product showcase of that. Oh, what I want to talk about is the fact that this isn't coming out for at least a year.

Oh. In spite of the fact that you guys can see it. Watch. Okay, watch this. I'm going to do this. This is how working it is. I'm going to plug in an LTT TrueSpec cable. I'm going to plug it into my phone.

Boink. And my phone is now charging. That's how working it is. It will not come out. for at least a year. Because we were just quoted 44 weeks to get the ICs

that we need to go to mass production. Holy. That's if we placed the order today. Well, okay. So remember how, like, we had a GPU price thing during the second great crypto winter and, like, cars got more expensive?

Yeah, but what... It's happening. So those... Because, we're using a similar enough I think it's the buck booster that we're using or something. We're using a similar enough process node on that particular

chip that because every power I see on the face of the bloody fucking earth is being allocated to data center stuff there's no fab time. So, see you in a year.

Damn, bro. Yeah. Did you guys put the order in? I don't know if we've actually placed the order yet because we're still working because the worst thing that could happen you place that or you change something about it would be if we knew we were working on say for example a gaming mouse

and we were to order thousands upon thousands of mouse processors for people that don't understand that happened yeah they did during the second great crypto winter if anyone wants to buy some some mouse processors by the way in the uh we actually did a video where we get into the

specific ones. It was it was like the products I couldn't release or products that failed or something like that on LTT and we talk about it. I wasn't joking. If you want to buy those processors, they're brand new in box. I'd be happy to sell them to you. I'll give you a great price.

Although, maybe I should hold them. Because things are going to get pretty rough. Oh. Yeah. Mouse processor cat toy. Oh. Oh, that's my alarm to, oh, I can't go super late today.

I have to put my chickens away. They get scared when it's dark. I love this, Linus. This is my favorite Linus. Now we're both bird dads, dude. I know, it's crazy. I'm so glad it's chickens. Just wait until you, you know they hide when they're sick, right?

Chickens do that too. Basically every bird does. Terrible. And they cuddle you. Terrible. They're so cute. Do you have you experienced the pecking order yet? Do you have enough for a pecking order?

Um, we definitely have bully ones and less bully one. There's someone who's at the bottom. I can tell you which one's the bottom of the group. Changes every day normally. There's one that's significantly smaller than the rest. Yeah. So she gets bullied pretty bad. I hit a silky that was like that, but it was like a couple days a year where she was top bird.

Really? It was really funny. Yeah, it like changes around. The more you have, the more it shifts around. So one thing we did notice, I loaded up a bunch of like chicken. in coop building videos before a flight on my phone and I watched a bunch of them. And there was one in particular that suggested only having one perch in your coop and just having it be wide enough that everyone goes on it so that they're not allowed to like establish

dominance by sitting up higher than the other ones. So we made ours removable. Right now we have two. They all sit on the top one together. But if that changes, then we can actually remove one of them and then they'll just have to deal with that but apparently it causes less fighting if they only have one perch um charged nuclei says no one wants to be shit on so you would never put them directly above yeah you stay because the ergonomics of that would be terrible how would they get from this one to that one they're flightless

birds you would put them like this anyway looping order bmdw wait wait wait wait question how can someone buy are you are you piecing out them the mouse processors do they all have to be bought it once. Oh, I thought you meant the chickens. Yeah, you could buy just a wing, I guess. We're not eating them. It would be so sad. Poor chicken.

Sorry, what was your question? Oh, the processors. Someone wants to buy two. No, we're not going to sell two processors. Are you high? So do they have to buy the whole thing? Well, that I don't know. But, like, I'd say like at least a hundred.

I don't know what they're worth. I was going to say, how much is 100? I don't know. I'll take the lot. Do I look like an expert? space with a decent electronics lab. How much for the lot and how do I get in touch? Info at Linusmediagroup.com

is like our general purpose inbox. Don't waste their time, but if you have a real genuine inquiry, then that would be the place to go. But they are legitimately, probably a pretty good thing for someone to pick up right now because

44 weeks, baby. Some genius needs to redesign the power bank control to use most processors. Yeah, I'll talk to Nate about it. Blue marks are that. It's pretty good. Anyways, all right. BMW is a trailblazer of enshu-facation. They sure are, man.

From July 27th to August 10th, BMW owners of select models were shown Spider-Man banner ads that could be tapped to display a full-screen commercial with audio. Obviously, there has been a huge backlash because, one, this is pretty brazenly a pretty crappy thing to do. And two, a BMW executive in 2023, we're not talking 10, 20, 50 years ago when they couldn't

have known what the world will be like. Three years ago, publicly rejected the idea of selling ads on dashboard displays. BMW responded by saying the ad was intended to say, the ad was intended to celebrate the film, which also features BMW vehicles, and is a one-time promotion and probably also, relax, buddy. Come on, guy. I don't think there's been a topic on Wanshow about cars in years that has not made me appreciate my car even more.

You would think a show that covers like the news and cool stuff in tech and is really trying to lean towards good news. You would talk about vehicles every once in a while that would include like, oh, that's really cool. Comma AI, cool open source hardware that can be bolted on to your old car to help with better lane keep assist. That just makes me appreciate my car even more. Really? Because I could just use it on my old car. No, yours isn't new enough. It's too old. So comma AI, it doesn't necessarily work on the newest stuff because it requires development. development. It needs...

You need to have some lane keep assist already because it's got to have the motors. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah.

That makes total sense. Yeah, my car would not do it. It has to have the motors and the sensors. So that was something that I thought was pretty cool. That gives me a little bit. Not enough to care.

But that is fair, though. That's one. You asked me to come up with one I was trying to come up. When did that launch? 1,000 years ago. They have new hardware, though.

I want to try it out. But first, I'm actually finally doing a hardware for test. long-term tryout. I'm going to buy a subscription. Colton and I are car swapping for a month.

You're going to buy a subscription to what? Full self-driving. Oh. Yeah. So Colton has a hardware for Tesla. I think it's a model three. Yeah, dude, 11 years ago, by the way. And then I'm trading with him.

Comma, I was 11 years ago. It wasn't good for a lot of that 11 years, though. I think it's good more recently, right? Yeah. Yeah. What bet did you lose? Says Wiley Giraff. It's not so much a bet that I lost

And more that I think it's a good thing for you to try Yeah, in the video on the call I've wanted to try it forever I just wasn't gonna like buy a fucking car to do it Yeah screw that Right like so I'm So I'm actually genuinely pretty excited to try it because

So wait what car? Oh hell I might have missed this What car is cold gonna drive? My car Your Porsche? Yeah Damn okay I don't know what

He's like a driver any Nah probably I don't know if I've ever He asked me if it'll fit car seats in it. I was like, yeah, yeah, no problem. Sweet. Yeah, it should be fine. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he told me he's scared to drive it. I'm like, what are you scared of? It's just this pedal make it go forward? This pedal make it not go forward so fast. It should be fine.

Not that worried about it. Because I think we just have to do something with our insurance, just to make sure that, like, we're covered and everything. Yeah, you just add the person as a driver. Yeah, yeah, it should be fine. It should be fine. Anyway, our discussion questions. Is this a bridge too far? the uh the the the on yeah dash yeah yes yeah but it's like you know the 28th bridge in a row that is too far virtual sidai says you'll buy a fire truck but not a cyber truck seems sus okay my fire truck cost way less than a cyber truck though and we made money on it less glue too less glue you have fewer panels glued on.

Sorry. Oh, this is cool. How did we skip this when we're looking for cool stuff to talk about? The Steam Deck OLED gains HDR streaming and experimental AV-1 support. Dude, Valve is still making the Steam Deck better all this time later. Very cool. The latest beta client released July 29th adds HDR streaming to remote play on the Steam Deck OLED.

So games stream from your PC can finally use the displays full. dynamic range instead of being stuck in SDR. The update also improves video color range across the board, which should fix some of the washed-out look that people have complained about. LCD deck owners are out of luck on the HDR side, though, since the screen doesn't support it. But that's a hardware thing. You can't blame Valve for that.

AV1 streaming is in there, too, but it's experimental on two levels. It requires the beta client plus the experimental Steam RT3 build on top. AV1 delivers the same or better image quality than HVC and H-264 at lower bandwidth, which is exactly what you want for streaming over Wi-Fi. Users have been asking Val for AV-1 in Remote Play since at least 2022. Our discussion question here is, is streaming from your own PC finally good enough to skip buying a more powerful handheld? And this is a question that I would have reflexively said,

no, and also you're stupid at some point in the past. But I think you probably remember this. My time with the Logitech GCloud changed my perspective. It doesn't happen that often. I'm pretty experienced reviewing tech. I usually have a pretty good idea of what I'm going to really like, what I'm going to not like, and what I'm going to be pretty tepid on.

But that was one where I got it completely wrong, and it was a way better experience to use than I expected. It ended up being a commercial failure, which is sort of a bummer. It looks like, well, I don't know that for sure, but I know that Logitech just said they're not going to make another one, so make of that what you will. But it really validated the, idea of a lightweight, super long battery life handheld that is mega focused on streaming

in a way that I didn't think was going to happen. It made me way more open to the PS portal, which has been a success. But as for a Steam Deck OLED with the intention of predominantly using it for remote play, that's a bulkier, that's a heavier device. Although the battery life will be really good if you're just streaming. It's going to be very personal. If you Mostly game around the house, which actually is most of what I do. It's also probably most of what most Steam Deck users do. The Steam Deck OLED is still pretty compelling, although not nearly as much as it used to be.

What's the price right now? And are there even any in stock? I want to see. How bad is it? Yeah, yeah. 1129 Canadian. Also, here, we're going to do the 512 because I'm streaming, right? Oh, okay, they're in stock.

Okay, so, oh man, that price. though. Remember when they were like somewhat attainable? Like half of that? I remember. Not for the OLED. Because remember, this is Canadian dollars. I didn't notice so you looked OLED. Yep. You want to talk about some

Wait, there was one more discussion question. Does HDR actually matter on a seven inch screen? Yes. Yes, definitely. HDR looks fantastic even on a small screen. It's not like resolution where just Yeah, I don't know how that applies at all. Yeah. I don't know. There's a question.

Fair enough question. Okay, so the thing that I did, yeah. Bios upgrading your legion, I'm just so pissed, I can't even talk. Bios upgrade Bricking LegionGo handhelds, Lenovo quoting over $250 to fix it outside of warranty. Oh, this was the one that I meant to discuss the EcoB one on. It's in there. All right. Great job, Lanshow, Doc Prep team.

You guys did put it where it was supposed to be. That's that's on my bed. Okay, carry on. Owners of Lenovo Legion Go handhelds are reporting a recent BIOS update is bricking their handhelds. The BIOS updating question is version something for the Legion Go Legion Go. It's the original Legion GoZ1 models running Ryson 1 Z Extreme APUs. You doing okay? The reason Z1 Extreme APUs.

There we go. The reading is very challenging. Yeah, this BIOS. update is not automatic. Most aren't? Some are. Actually, a lot of pre-builts these days. A lot of pre-builts do?

Yep, yeah. A lot of laptops will just like apply it through their like control center or whatever. The Lenovo thing does. Yeah. It's applied manually via an EXC install file downloaded from Lenovo's

technical support site. A Reddor claims that when they tried to reach out to Lenovo directly, the company allegedly quoted them a little over, uh, what? Quoted them a little over-quoted them a little over. Woo.

237 pounds, about 200 euros, about 237 U.S. dollars, I'm guessing. Holy crap to repair their Lenovo Legion go.

Almost said Region. You did say region. Hell yeah. I fixed it. The Redditor's device in question is out of warranty. Lenovo is otherwise still repairing or replacing

handheld's free of charge for devices that are still with no warranty. Another Redditor wrote, had the same issue, just paid around 120 euros to reactivate, to reactivate the warranty. I want them to repair it, not at my cost. This is insane. Yeah, anyways, there's just more cases of this happening over and over again.

Since the story broke on August 4th, 2026, Lenovo has completely removed any trace of the problematic update from their technical support page line. I should hope so. One Redditor did manage to recover their bricked lead. Gingo by soldering directly to the SPI flash chip, reading, and then writing a 1.8 volt BIOS ROM and modifying the image while preserving DMI data. That's based. Pitstop computers also reported on attempts to find a fix. They too went the route of external BIOS programming to recover the device.

That really shouldn't be required. And you know, the funny thing about it is that Gigabyte's been doing this for many, many years with their dual BIOS concept. It actually doesn't cost that much to throw a second BIOS chip on there that you. you can recover from in the event that a BIOS update does go wrong. It just costs a little bit and like so many things at a scale of selling a million units, saving a dollar is a million dollars. It's pretty good.

And that's the way, that's the way the wind blows. It's probably even cheaper than a dollar, but the math, still math is pretty hard. That's nuts. If your software update bricks my device, I don't think I care if I'm in warrant here.

not. That's going to piss me off. Oh yeah. Yeah. That, that, this is when I had wanted to have that conversation about like, what is a warranty? Yeah. You know, at a certain, at a certain point, does it, if, if, but then it is through some action of my own. And almost every BIOS update file includes like a doing this may brick your device. But that disclaimer really, oh, we got a mouse again. What? Like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a rodent. I don't see him. I saw something just and there was one time we had two of them on set.

Hey, I want them. I want them for Cat TV. Oh, yeah. No, you want them for the chickens. No, I don't want them for the chickens. What the devil would a chicken do with a mouse? Horrible things! Yeah, horrible things. What, really? They'll peck it. Oh, really? Yeah, probably. Oh, gross.

I don't want little invaders. Okay, this is only sort of tech, but I just wanted to talk about it because I know, and I are both pretty passionate about gambling. Several senators have contacted the CFTC, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, asking about the agency's goals or plans to take on prediction markets, specifically around the contracts for individuals to bet on wildfires. Yeah, I knew this was going to make your brain break.

Some of these contracts currently include areas. Wildfires will spread, total size of wildfires, new wildfire locations, and more. Prediction markets, if you're not familiar, work not by betting, and for those of you who are listening, not watching, I'm doing the giganticest finger quotes that you ever did see and making a really stupid face.

Not by betting, but rather, by having dynamic odds that can adjust to certain criteria. For example, will L.A. Lakers win the NBA championships? The chance of it being a yes could change based on how well they were playing that season. Ah, yes, totally not betting. These have had multiple side effects, like one story, of somebody betting on the temperature of an airport sensor,

then driving over there to hold a heat gun, or it was like a hairdryer or something next to it. And then there was another example of Donald Trump's teleprompter operator, betting on what he was going to say during a speech. Oh, wow. Yeah. I know there was somebody who took, like, listening devices, of some kind, I don't know what exactly,

to stadiums where the World Cup was being played to figure out the half-time show performances because they would show up during rehearsal times. I don't remember, they said how they figured out when rehearsals were and they would bet on like the order that things would happen, but they would know from the rehearsal. There's some surprisingly clever stuff. So these senators and many others have started to express concerns,

particularly around wildfires, because if someone wanted to make a person, prediction on a wildfire and then have it match, pun intended, a real wildfire, they could just go start fires, which, you know, I don't know if you guys have seen the air quality in general this year in like North America.

Maybe a lot of people were predicting on Northern Canada. Yeah, it'd be great if there was no financial incentive whatsoever for anyone to be doing anything to do with wildfires other than do their very best to prevent them. Our discussion question here with gambling, so ingrained in our society, can you explain in further detail why LMG has decided against using them

for sponsorships years ago? I don't think we've ever taken a gambling sponsorship. Did you and I talk about it at the time? I don't remember. We probably did on WAN. We talked about a lot of things on WAN, but I don't think we've ever taken a gambling sponsor. I don't know.

I just think it's pretty shit, pretty much. I don't really have too much. to say about it up is this a line that you could see shifting like we've seen we've seen the very dramatic change in just the last 10 years uh just the last two years honestly probably that's like it seems to be accelerating so let's say if it keeps going this path and it's just the mainstreamest thing in 10 20 years and i'm just like genuinely no one cares other than okay grandpa um no i don't I don't think so because I think you could make a really similar argument around like canniboids because that's that's a generation earlier.

Oh, taboo. No big deal. Like I think our generation in general, I don't consume, but I don't judge people who do. I don't really give a shit. If you know, you think it's cool or whatever, that's fine. And so my stance on it is basically just comes down to that I don't want our sponsorship. to be guided by what is legal. I want our sponsorships and our involvement in industries

through our content to be guided by what is not harmful for our viewers. Yeah, I personally think gambling is like genuinely a form of like financial self-harm and I don't know. We both know the one person in at least my life that gambles actively that I think does it in a healthy way. One person.

Cannabinoids, apparently I pronounced it wrong. I really don't give a shit about them. Not important. There's one person I know of and have ever known of and have ever heard of that deals with it in like a healthy way

that I think is genuinely fine. And it's one. And they're an extreme outlier of a person. In so many ways. Love that guy. So like it's, this is not normal. I've told the story

a bunch of times on WAND, but I used to work at the bread factory. And dudes at the bread factory would regularly get their paycheck, go to the casino, miss out on rent, and not have a place to stay for the next month. This was like a normal thing that would happen all the time. I've got some folks kind of mad at me, including Crystal. Cannabis isn't harmful. It's like, yeah, you can like actually scan people's brains.

It definitely changes your brain. As for, you know, whether you consider that to be harmful or not, there could be some subjectivity there, but in terms of like, does it have a very measurable impact on the human body? It's like, yes. Once again, like our junk food conversation last week, it's not really like debatable. There's also like I have a person that's quite close to me that had cancer six times. There's people for whom the benefits can outweigh the harm.

Oh, yeah. In this case, it's not even close. Like any medicine. They couldn't sleep properly without pain or for more than I think. I think it was like two hours at a time for years. And then they tried it and they were able to actually sleep, was like an obvious massive benefit. Yeah.

So, you know, yeah, it's just, it's one of those things where, with that said, I mean, there are areas where I've been a little grayer. Personally, I think energy drinks are terrible. I think they're poison. We've worked with Red Bull. That's something that is so major, like caffeine. It's something that I choose not to consume. It's like with every conversation we seem to have on Wancho where you pick your own line.

for them, their line on cannabinoids, hopefully I said it right, is more on the okay, and yours is not. And for someone else, I know there's the drink water movement, which is not okay with, which we're both doing, but is not okay with the energy drinks thing. And you're like, yeah, whatever, I don't know. You don't like gambling. Everyone's going to have their mix of what's okay and what isn't. The one with Red Bull, the thing with Red Bull for me is actually, how much the team loves it. Red Bull regularly sends us

like a pallet of drinks. Oh, they're gone immediately. No. Dude, no, over at Labs? There's regularly like half pallets of Red Bull sitting there. They put them in the fridges and stuff. No, no, what I'm saying is people consume them. Oh, yeah.

Like I'm agreeing with you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'll restock them. And they'll restock us. Red Bull restogs it often. And it is, it is a meaningfully contributing to the happiness of the team thing that happens and I can sit and I can be appreciative of that Red Bull. Red Bull does that

in spite of me multiple times publicly saying that I don't consume energy drinks, I wouldn't consume energy drinks, I don't think they're good for us. I, I, I, I, I, a personal, it's my personal choice that I believe they are poison and they, they do it anyway. And I'm just like, you know what? I got to kind of respect that. The fact that they're just like, you Yeah, that's your opinion. We've talked about the same thing with other companies before, where we should be able to be critical about a product and you should still work with us. Yeah, and so the fact that they can deal with that,

and they will just still send us all the Red Bull that our staff can drink, and they'll even work with us to do, and again, like, it comes down to what we're doing. Like when we did those builds for Alfonso Davies and disguised toast, right? Red Bull didn't ask me to drink the drink. They didn't ask me to talk about, ooh, how much I love Red Bull, so huggy-muggy much. They just, they kept the drink out of it. And I was like, okay, you know what? I can do this.

I can build a PC for some cool people that you also sponsor. And that's, I'm willing to do it. I don't know what it is. Yeah. I detest the taste of beer for whatever reason. I really like the taste of energy drinks. Almost so many people think they taste like junk. I love them.

I really like Red Bull. I really like a variety of other ones. Can't do it. It overpowers any other flavor in a drink for me. I didn't even know they were artificial sweeteners. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Which one do they use? I have no idea. What about wine?

Hate it. Hate it. Hate it so much. It's fermented. I've never been able to really get over that. Although, I will sit and I will eat a jar of pickles this big and one sitting. Yeah, I'm going to say, I don't know if that's it. I don't know if that's it.

I love kimchi. I love pickles. I'm pretty sure Sourcrowder is fermented. I don't know if that's true. Apparently original Red Bull uses real sugars. It's the sugar-free and zero-calorie ones that use sucralose and acetyosophamine, acetacillamine potassium. But yeah, I don't drink them too often because, I mean, I'm trying to lose weight right now.

I'm focusing on, I'm on the water game. But if there's like, I would rather have a Red Bull than, like, most pops. Not all. Can you get an orange crush or any herito? You guys don't, you guys don't Red Bull. But I'm always surprised that people are like, I don't like the taste of this or it's got the sugar. Like it's not a, it's an energy drink.

You're drinking it for the drugs that are in it. Oh, it doesn't do anything for me. I call them, I call them drug water because like, that's what it is. And, you know, it's not a, you're consuming it as a, uh, I mean, coffee's just hot drug water. Coffee is also drug water, you know? Some people seem to really like the flavor. I can't say that I quite understand it. I like it.

I'm not like obsessed with it or anything, but I like it. I tried a fancy espresso when I was at Robert's AMD upgrade. And I basically, I think what I said ended up being like a highly quotable moment in the comments. When I was like, I'm so glad you like it. But yeah, I like cold drug water and I don't like hot drug water. The funny thing about that one is I love coffee flavored ice cream. Oh, interesting. I know.

What the heck? Do you drink coffee with a bunch of milk in it? I don't drink coffee at all. Do you just need like sweeteners in your coffee? Yeah, maybe I would just... Because kind of what I explained to Luke ages ago is that most people drink milk that has coffee in it. I see. Espresso is pretty damn hardcore.

That's like most people don't drink espresso. They can't handle that. You're not alone in that. Got it. Yeah. But it tastes like. It tastes nice. Okay.

We should probably move to after dark. I do have to put my chicken. seconds away pretty relatively soonish. It's actually a concern. God, this has to go home to tend to his... Oh, adorable.

We've got four. I did bleep that. Just for you guys' context. Sure. These are bad buttons. It's so many things that I have to do. That one. And that one.

There we go. Oki dokey. Afterdark. Hell yeah. Hey, Burb owners and Dan, in light of BMW car ads, do you think AIO screens

will eventually have ad placements? If they had different plans, for example, ads or without ads, would you do it? What? Took me a minute to figure out what they meant,

but like, CPU screens, why aren't I getting ads for like Cheerios on those? They're perfect. Here's the thing. I hate you, Philip. If I was getting a good deal on it, then that would be fine.

But everything's like skimpflation, shrinkflation, and sh**ification. So I'm going to end up paying the same, but you're just going to put ads on it. Like if I, like that TV, remember that TV that had like the device to make sure you were actually watching the ads and everything, but the TV was free. Like, fine. If I'm going to be the product, I shouldn't be paying for it too. It's got to be one or the other. Either I'm the customer or the product. It can't be both.

There. DLL, getting another screwdriver to have... Sorry? I thought maybe someone else would say something. No, I just completely agree. All right. And I'd rather not be the product. I'd rather buy it.

This is the same reason why I think local AI stuff is so important. I think AI is super interesting and honestly really fun to play with. I'm pretty not okay with the... the moral issues of it being entirely built on theft and all that kind of stuff. But my way of doing that is I don't want to share my usage information. I don't want to share all the information that I input into it, etc. with companies that did that problem in the first place. I don't want to support them.

So I've run it locally. It seems like the same kind of thing of like I would, it's going to be, the very obvious financial problem with running it locally is looking at any of the cost of the hardware that would be required to run decently advanced models and then comparing that to a monthly subscription on one of these things and just being like, what?

Like it is currently way more financially efficient if you need to run or want to run more advanced things to just join a subscription thing. I just, I don't want to. I'm in a financial position where I can make that decision so I'm going to do that. That's crazy. I thought you were poor. Doing this might make me poor.

Nice. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. But yeah. 44 weeks. Sorry. Just mad. Dan, hit me. DLL, getting another screwdriver to have around my building maintenance job for the police department.

Any advice for cleaning laminate floor that's been abused for 25 years? Replace it? Hopefully, it's not blood. I don't think the floor bleeds, Dan. Also, you're the person I would ask for that. information. Yeah, cleaning laminate floor. I don't think there's really anything you can do about beat up laminate floor.

I think that's like the whole idea behind it is that it's cheaper up front, but then when it's done, you just have to throw it away and replace it. There's no refinishing a laminate floor, unfortunately. Oh, with that said, MRO Mutt says, I think it's an acid they use to clean them? Is this a thing, guys? help me out here. Is this a thing? Mind Paradox says if it isn't actively worn out, you can use TSP to clean it really well. Yeah, TSP is a cool product.

But it's 25 years, guys. And it's in a commercial environment. Like, it's got to be just scuffed. I expect it's going to be the genuine physical damage. It's got to be. 25 years, guys, because we're talking, this is Laminate Floor from 2001.

Laminate Floor wasn't good yet 25 years ago. Like, it's probably the crappy stuff. Hmm. Let's see TSP, sodium phosphate. No, not TPS. Testicular pain syndrome.

What are you talking about that for? No, what? I tagged a specific person. I was asking him tokens per second. Oh, I thought you were talking about TPS reports, and then I did the testicular pain syndrome. No, no, no, no. They said,

I thought it was an office-based reference. Never mind. They were responding to the previous thing that I said. They said an M3 Ultra with 512 gigableness. bytes of unified memory was my best recent personal hardware investment. And then I was asking them some questions about what model do you run? How much did it cost? What's your TPS, et cetera?

Because you can fit a massive model on something like that. Oh, yeah. But your TPS might be pretty slow. It sounds like TPS is 8 to 11, which is pretty slow. But depending on what your use case is, being able to fit that massive model on there might be really freaking cool anyways. I think that's pretty sweet. Artinal Palmer 69 asks, I would love an unfiltered bad newswand show.

You just go off about whatever you want, maybe a floatplane exclusive. I think we've eased off on just the good news stuff, but we're just trying to have more of an eye out for if there's anything cool. So I'm trying to be balanced. Let that bubble to the surface a little bit better, which I think is good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Hit me, Dan.

Hey, Linus and Luke. Have you ever considered doing a video on the performance differences between standard monitor aspect ratios and ultra-wide aspect ratios, 16 by 9 versus, is 21 by 9. There's dozens of us. I mean, that's the kind of thing that if you are someone who has one of those monitors, you can very easily explore for

yourself. So we tend to want to test tech tips that you can't tip yourself because you don't have the tech, right? All you've got to do is just change your in-game resolution to a 16 by 9 aspect

ratio resolution and then run the same benchmark and then da-da-da-da-da, you've got the answer. So that I lean away from a little bit. It's a cool idea to just kind of like explore resolution scaling, but we tend to focus on 16 by 9 just because it is so ubiquitous. And if you must know exactly how much of a difference, then it's, yeah, it's something that you can tip yourself. Go tip yourself.

Hello, Wanda. I said it way nicer than that. I did not. Hello, Wandot DL. With physical games going out, do you think we'll see a renaissance for PC gaming? What's the point of consoles if they'll cut down PCs? Is Xbox OS PSOS a thing we'll see in the future?

I would see Xbox and PC merging before. I would see like a separate Xbox OS. Like what are we going to have? Like NT kernel and freaking regular kernel again? Like come on. Windows X. Yeah. Renaissance for PC gaming.

I mean, I think the Renaissance is happening. Luke has talked about this fairly extensively, but it's less to do with because of OS changes, and it's more to do with... Honestly, a lot of really good quite new games out. Like, double A, single A. Yeah. And it's just down to fragmentation from the major gaming companies

that it's taking place right now. The game of the years over the last, little bit have been just Waked games. 007's really fantastic. That just came out. There's been some really bangers. We were in

quite a rough area for a while, but we seem to be out of it. Gaming seems like a pretty good, pretty healthy space right now. Hit me, Dan. Oh, if I have to. Hey, Mommy Luke and R. Dan. What's the staggering quantity of gamers that absolutely

despise skill-based You missed a word. Oh, there's not a lot in here. What's with the staggering quantity of gamers that absolutely despise skill-based matchmaking? Are there any other hobbies where people don't enjoy fair matches? Does this happen in badminton? I honestly don't get it either. I always love to play the closest possible match.

Oh, no, I completely get it. I would rather lose by one than win by 10. problem is that's not necessarily what's happening. Skill-based matchmaking is often being misused in order to maximize engagement. Oh, okay. Skill-based matchmaking, the name makes you think that it works in one specific way, but it doesn't work in one specific way. You're thinking, okay, obviously, skill-based matchmaking, we're going to match people with as close of skilled people as possible and balance the teams as well as we can, so the game is as even as possible, so people have as many good games as possible instead of washouts.

Like, not quite. It's often used in a way. Oh, right, where you'll be like on the verge of being frustrated and wanting to give up. And they'll let you, like, roll a team. They'll give you a win. Yeah, no, we've talked about this, actually. It's, uh, I forgot. So, and, you know, not every company's doing that.

Different companies do it to different degrees, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Um, and what the people that don't like that that situation is even possible, it's EOMM not SBM. Yeah, cool, except people call it SBM anyway, so it doesn't really matter. So like you run into this situation where you would rather they just don't have their grubby little fingers in it at all.

Yeah, but random is not good either. Random is trash. I agree. I'm just saying I understand where the argument comes from. I see. I think online matchmaking is just a horrific mess right now in general. I don't think there's an answer for it.

there's way too many cheaters. Someone tagged me saying, shoot, where is it? Maybe they didn't tag me. Maybe they just said it. But it was something along the lines of like, there's so many cheaters that it's not balanced anyways. Yeah.

In badminton, I would say it had. Conrad said Dota 2 has, yeah, I don't know. There's a Conrad quoting. Dota 2 has a forced 50% win rate. Some games are balanced. Sometimes it's completely unwel. winnable or unloosable.

It's just like, why don't we not even bother playing the game? Like a MoBA. Yeah. Why don't we just, why don't we just flip a coin and be excited when it lands heads? Like I,

yeah. So then that comes back to the like, well, you might as well just throw everybody in the pot and see how it goes. But that's not how it has to be because it could actually just be skill-based matchmaking.

Right. Like a lot of skill-based matchmaking systems were or some that still are. Lots, probably majority that still are. to be honest. But I think in my perspective, that's why people don't like it is because they've heard about the fact

that these things happen and you can call it other acronyms all you want. But the gaming companies will often call it skill-based matchmaking, even if that's not really what it is. As for whether it happens in badminton, I would actually say more often, it happens the other way,

where you'll have people that will prefer to take the worst partner on court so that they can like hot dog and kind of ball hog against

hot dog yeah hot dog like hot dogging never heard of this term shut up okay I've had this conversation I've never heard of that term either yeah but you're from Britain who cares what you think

oh you mean bangering bangering this is the second time this week that I've run into something like this I was at we were shooting an AMD ultimate tech upgrade earlier this week for Jordan. And I walk in, I'm like,

hey, can I borrow your washroom? And they all start laughing at me. They go, what do you mean, borrow it? You know, was there ever any possibility you weren't going to give it back? I was like, no, that's a thing. They're like, yeah, see? I'm right about hot dogging too. Look at the chat. People know.

What is hot dog? It's showing off. Sure. I'm not against it. I've just never heard of it. It's totally a thing. Jay Hirschman says 40s Midwesterner here. I know that term.

Yeah, people know what I'm talking about. Oh, it's because you're old. Look. Listen, listen, get out of here. You get out of here, too. Yeah, but you're British. God damn. So it's more often that this would happen where people would, like, want to show off.

Like, they can one v2 the other, the other two players versus, like, someone trying to stack a team with the two best players. on the court just so that they can crush the other team. However, I do run into people occasionally where I'll go and I'll play somewhere that I'm not familiar or like a drop-in or something and I'll say, hey, what's a balanced match here? And someone will intentionally grab a better player and will do that. But it's very rare and highly dishonorable. So it really doesn't happen that often. More often what will happen is if people aren't sure how to balance the teams, we'll do something.

Okay, you can come back. not you though we'll do something called racket spinning so you you hold your racket neck here and then you spin the handle and then you stop it and then the logo on the bottom if it's up or down you just point in the direction of your logo

and whoever matches the direction plays together yeah cool and if you have too many like if everyone gets up then you just spin again the type of game where you might not be able to find a perfect matchup anyways so you just do what you can Yeah, and I mean, a lot of the time, really strong players, like I was playing with my buddy Jaden last night, and he's just an absolute fucking god. So he was playing with me against two guys who are very strong, like too good for me to play against normally. And then he just like adjusts.

He's like, well, I don't have to smash with my full power. I could do 70%, which is not enough to just, they don't touch it at all, but not enough for them to return comfortably. so that gives Linus an opportunity to like get practices net kills. Like he's one of those players that just like... I will turn the dial. Dictates... 30% down. Yeah, unless you're also like a super high level player, then he has to try against you.

Anyway. Discussion question relating to my job. Has IT become too complicated? At what point do layers of redundancy security, virtualization and monitoring create more failure points then they prevent. I'll be honest with you. I feel the same way sometimes.

Like every time we have an issue with our V-Lands, I'm just like, fuck it, get rid of them. Like, not really, but I have that thought. I was going to say, we definitely want them. I know, I understand, but we definitely do. I know we want them, but it's just like, they could figure them right. I think this, so Rest Assured just said something

that I think is a really important point here. I said, bruh, I'm getting into Infra as code. Effing, kill me. And I think that's probably where your feeling is coming from. I think there's tons of benefits from this. Virtualization, monitoring, etc. is incredible. The stuff that Jonathan's been up to with Kubernetes

has been just honestly wild and very interesting and entertaining to watch. Really awesome. If you don't have a Jonathan, that gets complicated. And I think it's also kind of a little interesting because you're taking very traditional IT people and mashing them into this infras code thing.

And it's not always really mixing super great. And sometimes one of the ways that we've kind of tried to set up our team is that we have people that are more on the infras code thing and we have people that are less on the infras code thing because you still need both. but if you're like an individual solo IT person mastering both sides of that is yeah i mean i can understand too complicated it's basically two jobs um but at certain size of company there aren't two salary budgets totally so yeah um good luck yeah is it becoming too complicated i think it's

doing the thing that it should do i think a lot of the infros code stuff totally makes sense to be completely honest. Is that difficult and rough on a lot of people? I'm 100% certain. Papa Pac-Man says, as somebody in the hospital IT environment, VMs can solve and cause a bunch of problems. Totally. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. All right. Hit me, Dan. What's up, boys? Linus, do you find your life to be busier when your kids are in or out of school? Every year, we plan for how our life is going to be gloriously unbusy. during the summer because we don't have to deal with school. And every year we discover afresh that it's actually

busier. There's no way. I mean, our kids are older now. So they're pretty low maintenance if we don't sign them up for a bejillion summer camps. World Scholars Cup. When are you going to not do that? I don't know.

When we stop wanting to overachieve his parents, I guess, which, I mean, you've seen my wife. You've met her. You know what she's like. Yeah, so never. Yeah, I guess. Even when they're moved out, I suspect, we're still going to, like, you know, be doing the rounds, you know, dinner delivery and whatnot, knowing here. Yeah.

This is somewhat rhetorical because they don't necessarily want you to give the answer away. But how many years until little man can drive? Oh, less than two. On his own? That I don't know. I'd have to look that up. I'm not sure what the current rules on that are. But it's, dude, it's crazy.

It's two years? years. Dude, I can't believe how quickly everything's going by. Like, I feel so old. What is, what is the new meme, like getting into beekeeping or something? Like, I'm reaching beekeeping age now. Is that a, is that a thing? Apparently it's a thing. Someone was saying it's like, it's like, it's like a midlife crisis thing. Bekeeping trend. I like that one, actually. That seems pretty good. That's kind of cool. I dig that one. But nobody has enough property to, like, get a beehive. Urban beekeeping. Urban beekeeping.

Well, it's also calling you old and rich, I guess. Which is what Boomer was. So like it kind of makes sense. Yeah, that's fair. Only they get to own a yard. Yeah. The wellness trend, which has the social set all abuzz, how beekeeping became the hobby beloved by the A list and royals alike for its meditative

qualities. This is from Tappler. no idea what a tattler is. But, um, pictured, David Beckham with Romeo, Cruz, and Harper.

Oh, so it's not for us. This isn't like, it's even beyond. Prince and Princess of Wales just doing beekeeping, you know, royal people and whatnot.

James Middleton. Um, I mean, somebody's got to keep the bees alive. I suppose so. Maybe it'll be the ultra rich. New Netflix series. What is he,

Dinging. I don't know. Oh, he's dinging every time we use the word B.E. Stop. Dork. Sorry. Thoughts on the Mount Pleasant Data Center. Data Center bad, but maybe it should affect people who use it, not just small communities.

Thanks for screwdrivers. This is the third one I've bought. They're great. Oh, terrific. I'm glad you like it. What's Mount Pleasant? It is a pleasant. place.

Where's this? Oh, this is here. Oh, we're having a Mount Pleasant data center. Oh, it's like near Science World. I didn't know we were building. Yes, by like the Timmy's just south of Science World. That seems insane. I mean, that kind of makes sense.

I mean, there's data centers in urban places. This one doesn't... I mean, I put it there over East Hastings. Those were the only two options on Earth. I'd go Mount Pleasant. It's right in the name. It's pleasant. It might actually.

be a way better idea to put it at East Hastings. Really? Yeah. Okay, so you can't keep stores open there. Right. Reasons. What if it just wasn't a storefront? I mean, yeah, any data center is going to have like security up the rectum.

Yeah, and probably only one entrance anyways. So instead of a bunch of closed storefronts, they could just have a wall. You're not really going to, you're not really going to promote. the idea of just building walls, are you? Well, no, it's, every, every building has a wall. I don't mean that kind of a wall.

And we'll make, like it's literally just the wall of a building. That's all, that was my only point, to be clear. Who's going to pay for it? Maybe Mexico. Anyway, we can move on. I didn't know it was happening,

so I don't really have any thoughts on it. Me neither, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it seems like everyone's getting data centered, so I guess we got data centered. I'm interested in AI stuff. I'm not interested in the data center side of AI stuff. I'm interested in the running it myself.

Yeah. Side of AI stuff. Loud, lanky, and lurking. Considering making robotics or electronics content. They're getting really weird with these. Do you find enough fulfillment in making content versus traditional work? I think about the early days before you were making products and floatplane. Yeah.

I mean, it's one of those things where I think everyone needs a cage. reminders but people go out of their way to do it often enough that I don't really struggle with it like especially attending open sauce was really cool because like more than this many people were like yeah I started watching you when I was this high and now I have this degree or I'm working on this incredible job and I wouldn't have gotten started on it if it wasn't for LTT and thank you so much And I'm like, bro, you know stuff better than I do now. Don't thank me.

Thank yourself. But they're like, no, really. Like, you ignited my passion for this. And I think it's really awesome. And that kind of stuff really just, it makes my entire week. Met an engineer at Google, who, if I remember correctly, started watching us in elementary school. Good Lord. And I was like, oh.

Yeah, I know, right? But super cool. Right? No, awesome. That's our job. That's what we do. We don't make content. We build community if we want to really drill down to what we do that is actually meaningful.

Yeah, Conrad just posted in floatplain chat. He's like, NCIX Tech Tips got me into tech, and now I work for you. It's a thing, and it's really cool. And so I go to my way once in a while to send it over to HR so they can include it in, like, the weekly emails or posted on a fridge here and there. like these emails people send me your messages and this is why i understand there's there's lots of reasons why we stop doing it like many and good ones but this is why i'm more in the loss of ltx is i think this was a really interesting thing for a ton of people at the company you experience because i get to experience it when i go to shows yeah you get to experience it all the time

most people at the company are never going to experience that that's true and it's just like the the stuff that we do is actually very very interesting i'm on my side i think i'm on my side i things. I do miss content creation a little bit. There were also reasons why I was happy to leave it. I don't know. I think I do not envy the content creation teams at Linus Media Group right now. I don't think some of the guys that work here could even imagine what it was like when you and I first started. Oh, it was crazy. When stuff would just show up and it was like, hey, look, great content showed up at the door. I guess we'll make great content out of it. Like, it's such an insanely different game now.

It's hard. And I started getting kind of frustrated near the end of my tenure of being a writer with like, man, there's all this crap now. You used to joke that you could just write a GPU review ahead of time with just looking at the price. Yeah. So you would just be like, yeah, it'll perform this percent faster than this other card and this percent slower than this other card. And that was very soul-destroying and it's still possible. by the way. But that was very soul destroying because when I got into computers it was like I remember when

I like really got into it into not just being like wow computers are cool I like using Windows what can I do on Windows but like actually building stuff and like the performance aspect was around like the 8000 series 7000 series and JVIDIA GPUs and that was not the case back then.

It was a wild landscape of craziness and overclocking and different binning stuff and I remember you go on forums and there's there's entire subsections just for people doing binning and firmware unlocks all this crazy it was a wild environment to be in and now it's like you know there's some cool stuff coming no i i so you know about one of them but you don't know about another really cool that kind of wild westy thing that i've got in my office right now oh really

yeah there's some cool stuff still it's we just got to dig for it it's kind of sparking up right now in a weird way i feel like it is i'm actually i'm actually the unfortunate part is no one can afford it But there is very, very interesting things happening in the hardware space. The thing in my office is really cool and very affordable. Okay. For now. Sick. Sick.

Sick. Yeah. I don't know how it's going to go after we make our video. Right. Yeah. That's the LTT effect. Yeah. But it's, it's, I don't know.

Yeah. Maybe, maybe. Lina said I've been talking. Maybe there will be stuff again. I think there will. And I've got ideas for, you know, what are future content's going to look like that will, I think, help rejuvenate things. I'm actually, I had a chat with the whole writing team actually, one Friday ago, two Fridays ago. I forget what it was.

But basically I told them, I'm like, I'm more excited about the future of our content right now than I think I've been in years. And I think part of it is just sort of an attitude realignment on my side. And part of it is that things are, there are some exciting things happening right now behind the, you know, RAM and storage price increases. It's, people are getting scrappy again. Yeah. And it's kind of cool.

Yeah. And like one of the, I used to say this and I know Linus hates it and I understand why he hates it and it's a valid opinion, but I will chirp negatively about computer building by saying that it's just electronic Lego. Oh, it is not. I know. It's so, that's such bullshit. It's electronic duplo.

It is not. It's skill issue. But one of the reasons. why I used to throw that like basically insult out was because it was getting boring. Not because it was actually electronic Legos, but because it was getting boring. And you just called them Legos. So anyone that you didn't upset by... Because it's just Lego, right?

Legos already plural or whatever. Yes. Whatever. Silly geese. Gooses. Sorry, I meant to say gooses. Anyway. It's fun for me when I have to mess with stuff.

Yeah. And we're getting kind of back into that realm. Yeah. Oh, I agree. Which is kind of cool. It's just really expensive. Yeah. All right. Get ready to be as triggered as I was.

Go ahead, Dan. Yeah, last one I've got. Hi, Zev. Anyone read dungeon crawler Carl yet? Nope, sorry. Tons of fun. Great audiobook narration. Also, what category is water bottle under I had to search?

All right. Let's play. Luke, go ahead. Contentious. What would you like to click on? No, no, over here. Okay. Oh, man.

Is it bags and accessories or home and decor? I'm going to go home and decor. Home and decor. Yeah. There you go. Okay, what's under bags and accessories, though? Because bags and accessories has socks still. Yes.

So I just have no idea then. So the reason this has socks, I did actually ask that, is apparently that is industry standard categorization. I googled it. Well, and they seem to be right, but it does depend on the type of brand you are. No, no, I've got to interject. Why can't we just have it in multiple places? I love a goblin, Dan. I have an opinion question.

Why can't it be in multiple places? So if something is obvious for one person, then you could just click on it because they're both hypertext links that go to the same, like, I don't know. I do wonder about that because the, it's. seems like the standardization of socks being under accessories from my Googling, which might be inaccurate, to be very clear, but from my Googling is more for like fashion brands, high fashion brands mostly. I don't know how many people shopping on LTT store based on our audience demographics, spend a ton of time on like high fashion websites. So maybe they would look under apparel.

Yeah. Especially because... Would it be a bottom? I thought that the high fashion brands also thought that underwear was an accessory. Maybe. I am extremely hyper the wrong person to talk to about any of that. Why don't we establish a committee? No.

Okay. I'm just, I'm over it right now. Just temporarily. At some point, I will be ready for this crusade again, but right now I'm over it. I don't mind Dan's approach. Just put it in both places. Why don't we just put them under everything? Why doesn't it, no matter what you hover over, it just has one long list of everything yourself.

We'll infinitely increase discoverability on our site. In fact, why would you have to hover over anything? Why don't we just have a big long list of everything on our site? Just on the homepage. You should just make it like an HTML directory. Just old school style. Just like that blank thing or just a product list. White page.

The whole blue text. Oh, I love that. All right. And on that note, water bottle nightly. I got to go put my chickens away, so we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Play with them a little bit first. Okay, bye. You just tell me to play with my cock?

Yeah, no one's home. You're home alone with your four cocks. Oh, Andy got some... I don't know if I'm supposed to bleep that or not. Anyway, good night, everyone.