The WAN Show - Our World Record Was Shattered - WAN Show December 12, 2025

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Canada's Wonderland is bringing the holiday magic this season with Winterfest on select nights now through January 3rd. Step into a winter wonderland filled with millions of dazzling lights, festive shows, rides, and holiday treats. Plus, Coca-Cola is back with Canada's kindness community, celebrating acts of kindness nationwide with a chance at 100,000 donation for the winning community and a 2026 holiday caravan stop. Learn more at canadaswunderland.com. What's up, everyone? And welcome to the WAN show. We have a great show lined up for you guys this week. We're going to be talking about, ooh, NVIDIA being sued in a class action lawsuit by YouTubers.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Let's go. Including H3H3 productions. Oh. Yeah. Probably not what you thought I was about to say. In other major news, storage review, how could you? Storage review has calculated pie the 314 trillion digits. I think they just don't want us to be happy.
Starting point is 00:01:24 That means our world record. is broken someone's got to get 369 and then someone's got to get 420 and then I think the whole loop we can just I think it's just over at that wrap it up yeah we can we can just tie a bow on it and put it in the
Starting point is 00:01:39 closet yeah and bring it out at Christmas special occasion yeah Christmas time yeah it's Christmas time storage review great job we'll be talking about that a little bit later what else we got this week Intel officially confirms BMG G31 big battle mage
Starting point is 00:01:58 GPU. Okay, see, I thought that was a big deal, but then that was the headline topic for TechLinkton. It was like, no one cared. The people don't care, but I care. Nice. And Phillips wrote LTT a letter about Phillips Fixables. Those are the two you pick. Are we back? Fixables? Yeah, well, I think that's cool. No, I think Fixables is back. I think fixables is cool. Yeah, that's sick. All right, we'll talk about it. Okay. The show is brought to you by Odu, A&D, proton mail, and odd pieces,
Starting point is 00:02:47 alongside, of course, our rap partner D brand, our laptop partner, Dell, and our chair partner, secret. Nice track. I shouldn't have looked at it. I didn't even do that this week You know what? Vertical No one's happy
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm gonna make it worse than ever Why don't we jump right into our headline topic this week Which is of course That storage review has regained a computational record By solving pie to 314 trillion digits. They used, and this is a quote, a single 2U
Starting point is 00:03:32 Dell Power Edge R7725 server equipped with dual AMD Epic 192 core CPUs alongside wait 40
Starting point is 00:03:46 601. 61.44 terabyte micron 6550 ion SSDs. And you know why you should be angry about that? Not because Storage Review has embarrassed your favorite YouTuber who makes tech videos on a regular basis in Cloverdale, British Columbia.
Starting point is 00:04:12 See how I narrowed that down there? You did. I really did. Yep. Yep. You should be upset because it turns out, storage review were the ones responsible for the NAND flash shortage crisis.
Starting point is 00:04:26 How much is that? That's two and a half petabytes of SSDs for crying out loud. That is pretty crazy. But that's necessary. That's actually something that you need in order to store all that. I mean, we made a whole video about it,
Starting point is 00:04:40 and you can sort of go check that out. Pretty much same idea. Their record run was a 10010-day total runtime, and this is great. According to their article, they focused on record-setting power efficiency, which I've got to be honest with you, makes a ton of sense to me as the one who paid for power last time around.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I had no idea how much we had spent on that endeavor until we were already done. It was ludicrous. Discussion question is, are you going to freaking take this, bro? What are you going to do about it? I'm going to freaking take it. Yeah. I'm going to take it. gonna just I think what oh my I don't even care I'm good I've got my certificate from last
Starting point is 00:05:33 time they can have it I think I think what we're gonna do about it is maybe encouraged oh man I think what we're gonna do about is encourage them to go for 369 yeah yeah yeah yeah be a man yeah do it again beat your own record be a man yeah do the right thing and then do it twice beat your own record, go to 369, and then beat your own record again with 420. And maybe you can, you know, wait for jump sing technology in order to do that. So it's like a little bit more interesting every time. There's like a bit of a story to it or whatever. But still.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And we'll root for you. We're going to root for you from the sidelines. Yeah. And he'll do it really enthusiastically. All right. Why don't we jump into one of the other topics that I'm very interested in? And I am mostly doing this because I haven't kept up with the news here, and I am reading this for the first time.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So I'll be finding out exactly what the heck is going on. NVIDIA is apparently being sued in a class action lawsuit for copyright infringement by three YouTubers after NVIDIA used their videos to train their new AI model. YouTube creators, TED Entertainment, H-DH3 Productions and H3 podcast highlights. Matt Fisher, Mr. Shortgame, and Gulf Holics have filed a proposed class action lawsuit against NVIDIA saying that the company used their YouTube videos without permission to train its AI video model, Cosmos. The creators say that YouTube only allows videos to be streamed, not downloaded, and that NVIDIA allegedly bypassed YouTube's protections to get the actual video files anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Could we call this a form of, what's the word I'm looking for? There's definitely a word for it. Scraper? Like, what part of this are you trying to define? Well, I'm almost afraid to say, I'm almost afraid to say the word. Is this, is this piracy? Oh. Chats going nuts.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I got you. See, watching a video. I just thought it was obvious. I thought he was looking for something else. See, watching a video on YouTube is not, in fact, the same as owning the file. There are terms of service, and there is a licensing agreement
Starting point is 00:08:04 for the use of the content. Anyway, the lawsuit claims that NVIDIA crossed that line. The case focuses on huge AI datasets made up of YouTube links and timestamps rather than the videos themselves to use those datasets. though, the creators argue
Starting point is 00:08:22 Nvidia had to download the videos directly from YouTube, often repeatedly, to extract short clips resulting in millions of unauthorized copies. The creators are suing under the DMCA's anti-circumvention rules saying that Nvidia broke
Starting point is 00:08:38 YouTube's access controls to get files it was never allowed to have and they are asking for damages and a court order to stop the practice. Members on our subred it found several LMG videos in the data sets from different channels. So our first discussion question is, do we intend to join the class action lawsuit?
Starting point is 00:09:02 And I'm just going to say the same thing that I always say. And that is, honestly, no, we are not a particularly litigious company. I am not a litigious person. I am mostly a live and let live kind of guy. I'm a little bit peeved. I don't like this. I would like to be compensated when my copyrighted intellectual property is used.
Starting point is 00:09:32 However, I also have the self-awareness to recognize that not every way that I've ever used any copyrighted piece of material has been 100% perfect. So, you know, live let live I do think there's a difference between you doing that as a person
Starting point is 00:09:52 and Nvidia doing that as a corporation sure but we do it as a company too I mean we'll put a meme in our video sometimes and like memes it's funny people seem to kind of like forget this be magically more okay with that but you know throwing like
Starting point is 00:10:07 throwing like a like a very short portion of like John Cena's walkout music into the intro of a video where I'm wearing a singlet, you know. Technically, like, if they wanted to be assholes about it, right? Like, they could go after us about it. But I think as long as everyone kind of goes, you know, in good faith, are we all kind of just borrowing lightly,
Starting point is 00:10:31 but not damaging the market for the original content? You know, basic pillars of kind of fair use, then, you know, whatever. I think in video probably, yeah, fair use, probably not. Um, but I just, the way that I see it, that's in the past and the better focus for us going forward is to just kind of keep making the best possible content that we can and keep making better content than whatever it is that Nvidia could AI slop out with this model that they trained on our old stuff and just keep moving forward. That's, um, yeah, it's not, it's not ideal. I don't like it. I don't like it. And there are areas where eventually, you know, you're going to cross a line with me. Like, I had, I had, like, one of those stupid AI celebrity chat bot things, reach out to me. And they're like, oh, you should do, like, an official Linus Tech Tips one, and we'll help you set it up, and we'll do this and we'll do that.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I basically responded, I was like, no, you won't. And I explicitly am telling you I do not authorize that, so don't. and they basically were like, why not? Like, yeah, the fact that you don't understand that already tells me that any attempt that I make to explain it to you is a complete and utter waste of my time and will probably give me a headache. The amount of people that would be cybering you
Starting point is 00:12:00 into the position that you went into earlier would be significant. It's a chatbot, Luke. Uh-huh. You don't think people do that? welcome to the world what is this phone sex like I don't understand
Starting point is 00:12:17 yeah there's text versions of that what are you talking about yeah but just like there are there are a lot of people that do this did you not see that okay I guess we gotta catch up a little bit um when five chat TPT 5 came out
Starting point is 00:12:30 a ton of people were like very upset because they're like relationships ended because five had a different personality I remember that. I was there for that. Yeah, you don't think they're doing explicit things through text? Yeah, but it doesn't actually generate an image of anything. Like it's...
Starting point is 00:12:49 No, yeah, through text. Why? That part I can't explain. Okay. All I'm saying is it would happen. Well, anyway, I think that's pretty much all I have to say. about that and video you know maybe just don't um but also i don't know man i feel like this whole
Starting point is 00:13:18 does it make a difference to you significantly if they like watch it properly or download it and not just that but i don't know maybe there's a thing there i'm just not really aware of it but you know at this point the you know okay like are we headed to artificial general intelligence on the current path that we're on the the the consensus among people who actually seem to know appears to be no this is not a path to that however this whole LLM thing this whole machine like sort of generative machine learning thing generative AI that we have going on right now you know is it kind of a big deal is it going to change the world that's no question the answer there is yes it will it already change the world in some fashion or another and the
Starting point is 00:14:04 reality of it is that invidia is only in trouble because they operate in a jurisdiction where like laws exist um so someone at some point is going to train their their video model on my videos like do i does it make a difference to me if it's invidia versus someone else i mean invidia has you know their five trillion dollar valuation or whatever they're up to at this point so there's certainly a much better target to go after in terms of recouping some money from them uh on that note did you see the big deal that uh Disney and Open AI announced? No.
Starting point is 00:14:42 A billion dollars and Open AI through SORA is now officially licensed to generate snippets using iconic Disney characters like Darth Vader, Boba Fett, some of like of their more cartooning characters, Mickey Mouse. Like I was I was pretty surprised to see that. And then on almost the same day, I think, it was either the same day, it was almost the same day. It was almost the same day. Disney sent a cease and desist to Google over their overusing their copyrighted works. So they've got this partnership with OpenAI now,
Starting point is 00:15:20 and they are clamping down on the use of their copyrighted materials elsewhere. We are in unprecedented times, and I don't feel like walking into the arena with the NVIDIA's, Open AIs, Disney's of the world. The main thing I'm upset about is they didn't pay their... their Flowplane subscription for the month to download all of it that way, officially. That would have been like $5. Yeah. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 They pirated it. And that still wouldn't include a license to use it for commercial use anyway. At least it was a real way to download it. I mean, I guess. Is that, would that constitute commercial use? Absolutely. I mean, they're using it to make money. I mean, well, AI.
Starting point is 00:16:08 industry, make money. That's funny. But theoretically, they're using it to make money at some point. Yeah, I guess so. That's interesting. I wonder if our thing... Hmm. Hmm. I'm going to just figure that out later and not talk about it. But anyways,
Starting point is 00:16:26 next topic. We did two topics. Dan, what are we supposed to do now? Oh. You're way ahead of time. We did it really fast. Do another topic. No, no, that's fine. We can do other stuff. Or we could do some March messages? Oh, really, really already?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Is that what we do at this point? Oh, no, you do it. You do it 40 minutes from now. No, no, we should do that. We should do that. Because... There are a lot of things going on. Yeah, there's a lot going on right now.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I scroll through that section earlier and it's just like, what? Starting, of course, with Luke bringing up the website. So that he's ready to show off. Dun-da-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dun-d-d-d-tun-d-tun-do. Oh, wait. No, before we talk about any product launches, we have some updates on the customs fee issues. that some customers have been experiencing. We recently found out that some customers outside the U.S. and Canada
Starting point is 00:17:13 were charged higher than expected customs fees due to an external clerical error that submitted declarations in U.S.D rather than CAD. So an outside party didn't realize because nobody knows what a Canadian dollar is, that our documentation was in Canadian dollars, and they said they were U.S. dollars, which means that the value of the shipments was overstated by about 40%.
Starting point is 00:17:37 That is annoying. Whoopsy, doncles. It does make sense. If your order was affected, you will receive an email tonight with all of the details. The issue has been fixed, so any new orders placed now will not be impacted. Knock on wood. We are working with our ship pick partners to make sure that any extra fees are refunded. So if you have an order on the way, do not refuse delivery, because we may not be able to resend it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Pay the bill as issued, we will take care of the refund. We're aiming to have all refunds completed by the end of next week, December 19th. If you have any other questions, please contact our wonderful customer service team of trustworthy bros, and we will get you sorted. Oh, about five minutes ago. Thanks, Adam. Now on to something more fun. Look at this thing. We just launched our teddy fleece jacket.
Starting point is 00:18:33 This thing is ridiculously soft, ridiculously cool. Look how cool it is! That's an epic photo. And is a must-have in your closet during the colder months. You can layer underneath it, and it just looks so good, whether you're going outdoors or hanging out indoors. It has lined sleeves, making it easy to wear, lots of pockets, and of course... Luke, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:19:00 There's, yeah. And of course, the color is just so unique and stylish. We were going for kind of like a retro kind of 90s, but a little bit more modern. And like, I think that the team did just an absolute outstanding job of this. Freaking outstanding job. It looks so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And not only are we bundling up for the cold weather with our teddy fleece, we're also bundling up some holiday deals right there at the top. Oh, no, you're good. Yeah, you got it. Until December 17th in the U.S., so this is the U.S., site is that what you're looking at please tell me you're on the u.s. yes nice um we are offering some sweet deals you can bundle the commuter backpack and elgato stream deck mark two for one 9999 that is
Starting point is 00:19:50 a hundred twenty dollars in savings or when you buy a wan backpack and we only have a few dozen left now oh okay we're giving away a free pair of steel series arctus nova 4x that is eighty dollars off You can check out the rest of the bundles at LMG.gg slash bundle up. As for our global customers, we've got you guys covered too. Also until December 17th, we're offering the MCM Essential Solution
Starting point is 00:20:17 for a 7999-Canadian that is a massive $100 off for a big pack of cable management arches and the power bar holders and stuff. And the retro monitor pet cave is only $2999. Treat your free friend to a cozy nostalgia-themed bed. this holiday. Also, if you're on the lookout for a new mouse,
Starting point is 00:20:38 $20 for a razor, death, adder, essential white. It's $20. What do you want me to tell you? 20 bucks. It's $20.000. LMG slash holiday deals. Finally. Underscore. Oh, sorry, yes. Really? underscore? The site I'm on is underscore. Underscore. What does that mean? What do you mean? Where does it say underscore? Oh. Oh, okay. Oh, that's really good to know. Thanks, Luke. Yeah, got you. The bundle up is also underscore by the way it's bundle underscore up i didn't i didn't hear you necessarily say it so you might
Starting point is 00:21:08 have said it right but quality uh also just an update for you guys we have wrapped up our holiday loot drop draw the sweepstakes that we did thank you to all who made purchases and submitted entries via mail oh crap okay the ltttt store dot com i forgot to talk to you about that yeah the lttt store dot com domain has the underscore in it the lmg dot g1 does not oh okay i'm sure they'll find it. I think he said it right because you were probably saying theelmg.g.g domain. They're going to find it. You'll be all right. I believe in them. You'll figure it out. They're going to buy
Starting point is 00:21:42 something. They're going to send them a message. You'll figure it out. I wanted to give you guys an update on the LuteDrop contest. We got hundreds and hundreds of letters. So massive shout out to Jamie, who poor Jamie, had to open almost all of them, including that super
Starting point is 00:21:58 weird one from last week, as well as Sammy Jess, Adam P, Mitchell, Tanya, Victor Ashley and Conrad from the CW team. Tons of planning went into all of this. Anyway, we're going to be randomly drawing the winners for the Sennheiser HD 550s and, or 550s, I think, and the ROG Ally X handheld gaming systems,
Starting point is 00:22:20 but soon. Winners will be notified via email and prizes will be sent once everything is confirmed. Okay, that's all of the CW updates. 2,200. Does he have the box of the month? that I saw? Like, how much work would it be for us to, like, show... Actually, you know what? It's probably not worth it, because they're going to have return addresses on one.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah. Yeah, okay. Forget, forget it, forget it. But, like, I saw the boxes of freaking letters. It was ridiculous. We are going to... We are going to change that next time. Just show you guys know. So, what you do is you... Is it one maximum or something?
Starting point is 00:22:58 We had some people that were relatively new to the team who didn't know how you do this. So the way that we did it was you got an entry for placing an order over $100. Yeah. You also got an entry for putting a 50 cent stamp on a letter and sending it to us. So obviously, thousands of people were like, oh, well, that's cheaper. And I'll do that every single day, and I'll date the mail, so it goes out blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, you have to have.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Which, I mean, fair play. You have to have a no purchase necessary way to enter a sweepstakes in Canada. otherwise it becomes gambling. So in the future, we will, of course, still have a no purchase necessary way to enter the contest. However, what most retail entities do is they make that letter worth one entry and then they make the purchase worth a lot more entries.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So the $100 plus order, we might make worth one entry per dollar, spent. Well, it's 25 cents for the stamp. And then the letter... Four entries per dollar. The letter, we make worth one entry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Which is not going to be good use of your time, because you will not have meaningful odds of winning at that point. That makes sense. So that's probably what we're going to do next time. But this time around, you guys got a wonderful opportunity to win for the sake of sending a letter. um sorry where there's a chat going
Starting point is 00:24:37 uh if we're going to try to hide the location of the uh the tech house the answer is no i'm not we're not going to blur everything that's the whole point of the tech house yeah i mean we already work in in the studio here like obviously we are going to you know every one of our offices is google mapsable i don't i don't think we have to worry but i to yeah i it doesn't substantially change the situation of anything no no i think it'll be i think it'll be fine yeah should be good there are reviews of our company on google maps oh there's so many most of them talking about how great the food is yeah just pretty wholesome meme actually hold on this is flipping outstanding uh here we go sadly i had to give three three
Starting point is 00:25:29 stars. I ordered a burger with some cheese. Sadly, the cheese was not melted. Not melted correctly. I ended up fighting this short man about the correct way to melt cheese. Four months ago, they have the best meals for picky eaters like my nephew. He doesn't eat athelon chips. He only eats Risen chips. I got the light lettuce Lao lunch deal, and it was only $5. I didn't even know this was a thing because I mostly look at the labs and the labs has like one.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Oh, really? Yeah, well, it got deleted off Google Maps somehow and then it came back. So it had a bunch and then it got removed and came back and it didn't have it anywhere. Our visit was a once in a lifetime experience. Oh, this one's like actually real. Oh, that's a real one.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Boring. Best Burger Joint in Canada. Once in a lifetime experience. Boring. I have to take this off. It's too bored. go. Dying.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Do you see the color of the zipper, though? How cool is that? I did think that's pretty cool, actually. I don't think I've ever seen a zipper. YKK, as always. Oh, wow. Yeah, let's see the lab. Yeah, there's two reviews.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, and it's no, like, food meme or anything, but they're going for it. One of them is just first, which that makes sense. Yeah. Fair enough. That would be a tech community thing to do. Nice shirt, dude. uh all right is that a
Starting point is 00:27:01 a privateering ship on there this oh yeah it's a quality shirt quality shirt quality privateering uh is it another topic or what we're doing that thing we're continuing to do that so we got to explain
Starting point is 00:27:16 merch messages is that what's going on we got some merch messages oh yeah right we're supposed to do that we are not about you guys just throwing money at your screen that is not necessarily the best play the best play the best play if you want to interact with the stream
Starting point is 00:27:30 is to send a merch message all you got to do to send a merch message is go to Luke's laptop instead of mine add anything to your card any of the high quality merchandise over on LTTStore.com we already ran through some of the great bundle deals that we're running right now
Starting point is 00:27:45 as well as just straight up promos as we make our way into the final stretches of the holiday season here just go ahead throw it in the cart and as you go to check out you will see the merch message box you can either show your name more make it anonymous. You can type a little merch message and then you can choose a color scheme
Starting point is 00:28:03 and you can go ahead and place your order. Your message will go to producer Dan who will put it that noise. Wow. Yeah. Anyway. I only saw that in the peripheral. Wow. Wow. Stop. Wow. It's kind of moist. We'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up down here who will reply. to it himself who will maybe forward it to someone who can answer your question better or he will curate it for me and Luke to talk about. Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple of merch messages to show the people how we do it? Yeah, I've got a couple here. Hey, LLD, I've noticed a trend of people hating on new games that use old mechanics. If it's not open world or live service, people hate. What are your thoughts on where gaming trends are going? Really?
Starting point is 00:28:58 World is an old mechanic. Well, I mean, I wouldn't. It depends on what you mean by old. Actually, now that I think about it, like, Link to the past is pretty open world, isn't it? Red Guard is... No, not quite. No, it's...
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's gated in terms of, like, where you're allowed to go because you get your new ability. It's like, what's... Yeah, there's games from the early 90s that are open world, technically. Okay, what's this red guard? What is it?
Starting point is 00:29:27 I brought up Elder Scrolls, arena. No, link to the past is linear. Yep, thanks, SKHS. Despite the naming, I'm pretty sure it's open world. It makes you feel like it's kind of open, but it's not properly open world. As for live service, man, live service, I do not have time to devote my life to one game.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I like my games to be where I start them, and then at some point they're done. I actually consider a new content. content pack every, you know, a couple of weeks or every, every quarter or every month, I consider that to be a bug, not a feature. And I do understand for some people, the whole live service concept where they're like constantly changing up the game to keep you playing it forever, like something like a Fortnite, that totally works for them. I mean, we had a really cool, competitive, um, Fortnite player in here the other,
Starting point is 00:30:25 the other day. canada do you know this guy I recognize the name I think yeah this guy yes yeah yeah yeah we had this guy in for a collab last week
Starting point is 00:30:38 and like he said he figures I hate that maybe this is right but it seems like it can't be right he says he figures I think he said Epic Game Store rolls over after 10,000 hours or something like that
Starting point is 00:30:54 so he figures he has like 40,000 hours in Fortnite. He's like in his early 20s. So like a significant amount of his waking life is like playing Fortnite. But you, uh, you,
Starting point is 00:31:10 dude, like I've watched him play and I'm just like, I can't even follow like what's happening. I can't even track what he's doing. Yeah. Like what do you call it? Busting 90s or whatever where he like builds a tower in 90 degree things and makes a spiral staircase as he goes up and he just, he
Starting point is 00:31:26 does it so fast that I can't even like tell how many levels up he is by the time I'm just, I'm just, okay. You just hit me with the okay boomer now because I do not know what's going on right now. Cranking 90s, thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Luga. Luca, Luka 103. Busting 90s dying. There's your okay boomer moment. Yeah, so he's good. I think he recorded a short while he was here of trying to teach me to do it. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Because there's like three different hotkeys that are all like down at the bottom, like ZXC or XCV or something like that for your flat, your stairs and your wall. And I'm just like, what? I got no idea what's going on, man. I love busting 90s. Stop it. Stop it. Straight busting.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So there are, by the way, there are examples of open world games arguably from the 80s, definitely from the 90s and for Shurzies from the early 2000s, which is 25 years ago. And I have loved me some open world games. I love Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. I think it's freaking awesome. Oblivion was quite open world. I remember... Even Oblivion is like old. Stop. It's not. Like very old. That's really not that old. It's super old. It's really not that old. Horse armor. Quality modern mechanic where you can pay extra for cosmetics. In a not that many days
Starting point is 00:32:55 It will be 20 years old I can mute him there he's muted I don't have to hear it now Wait I can still hear the monitoring No this sucks no you're off Oh wait you can still hear you yeah I can still I can still hear him this sucks Hello oh wow I can't oh Dan can turn you off Yes that's so rude Dan
Starting point is 00:33:14 You're the best he's the best he's the best this man This man this I'm gonna try to I'm trying to I'm trying to point it, Dan. It's hard. You do it. This man, with both hands. Try and do it with both hands. Okay, you're cheating, though. How? You're cheating because you saw me do it first.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Okay, I do need to hear them, though, Dan. Okay. All right, I'm back. I'm back. Back again. But yeah, anyways, what other mechanics, sorry? Oh, it was open world and live service. could you say an MMO is live service because if then then Windows Ultima from online 1996 uh 1997 you were very close but like yeah it's not it's not a new model
Starting point is 00:34:08 I would say live service is much more popularized these days and it's happening for things that aren't basically just MMO RPGs which is pretty much all it was for a while so that one I think more fair. I think that's your okay boomer moment. Once the last time anyone called it an MMO-R-P-G. That is awesome. Can you tell I haven't had a desktop for three months? I saw it set up. You got it now. There's no cables or anything. Oh, that explains why it looked so good. There's no mouse. There's nothing going on. It's just the desktop and three monitors on a desk with nothing else. And again, if you like, if I did a 360, it's, uh, you mean busted three, nine, four 90s,
Starting point is 00:34:57 bust four 90s. Um, yeah, okay, the live service one, I'll, I'll give them because I, you know, I think they're describing something that is different than ultimate online, but the open world thing, I, I don't necessarily agree with. Open world's, uh, an old, it's an old thing. I do think we strayed away from it for a while. I think it was actually more popular. even longer ago and then there was like a while there where very linear games were like the
Starting point is 00:35:29 trend but open world games existed before that happened and then just became re-popular again after that so i don't know anyways what was the actual question what are your thoughts on where gaming trends are going generally bad let's move on to the next one i don't agree i don't agree and i'm gonna plug some float plane here for a second i made a video a while ago talking about this concept and we're going to talk about this later but I'm doing another Luke week thing and I re-touch on this concept and I actually don't agree the core premise of my argument here which I have kind of talked about on Wancho before is we're in a weird period but it's it's cyclical and we have been in this weird period before and the last time that
Starting point is 00:36:13 we were in this weird period was a month ago was the the end of the age of companies like Atari Give it to me, Dan. And when, yeah, there it is. Yeah. And when Atari kind of died, if I remember quickly, they, like one of the companies that spawned off of Atari slowly dying was Activision, I think. Never heard of them. So they were like small and scrappy and made really amazing things. And then, you know, they got big and now they're kind of starting to fall apart.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And some of the splinters of that are creating cool things. and the feature of this more recent one is talking about a splinter company from Dice, a bunch of people who used to work for Dice, a legendary, extremely prolific gaming studio who's made crazy things over time, but is kind of big and maybe a little slow now, has people splintering off.
Starting point is 00:37:07 In an interview in one of the making of Arc Raiders videos, the CEO talks about like, yeah, I've ran massive companies and they can make neat, high-fidelity games, but are they good games? I don't know. Questionable. I think we can make good games here, which is like, yeah, let's go. And yeah, I think this is happening more and more.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And you're seeing, like, the games that people are talking about these days are like, oh, my God, everyone's all excited because divinity was announced from the people who made Ballers Gate 3, Larian Studios. The games people are talking about the game awards were like Expedition 33, Ark Ray. They win nine awards or something like that this year? Yeah, I think it was nine. Silk Song is like a huge thing in the in the conversation right now. It's not those big old companies. Those big old companies are currently being looted of their good people and they're going to smaller companies and they're making cool things.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It's just, it's hard to look at the blizzards and Ubisofts of the world and expect anything good right now. It's not really happening. But if you open your horizons to these new, newer companies, there is actually really cool games coming out. Master of None, yes, you were rage-baited. I do know Activision. Cool. Are we doing another one, or is that good?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I got another one here. Okay, hit us, Dan. Sure. Hello, LLD. Linus is a fellow EV driver. What are your thoughts on the increasing adoption of NECS, the Tesla charging port, over J-1772 and CCS? Luke and Dan, what are your primary EV roadblood?
Starting point is 00:38:44 What are the primary E.V. roadblocks for you? I'm not an electrical engineer, and I'm not a mechanical engineer. So I would not consider myself qualified to determine which is the ideal plug shape and format for charging a high voltage electric vehicle system. My thought, though, and I do still have thoughts, is why the fuck couldn't we settle this stuff ages ago? because now I have the wrong connector on my car and I have to carry it around an adapter forever. But also I don't care because I charge literally every single time in my garage
Starting point is 00:39:24 or at my building where I install the chargers so I put the kind that's compatible with my car. Makes sense. That's where I'm kind of out on that. But if I was ever on a road trip, yeah, I'd have to carry around an adapter. But Yvonne's car came with a free adapter so I would steal hers
Starting point is 00:39:41 because I assume I'm not going anywhere without my wife. Um, so I guess, yeah, it's not really a problem for me. I just wish that we had settled all of this a little bit earlier, so we didn't have these competing standards. But that's the way it always goes, whether it's VHS and beta, or whether it's HD, DVD and Blu-ray, or whether it's USBC and fucking all the other garbage that existed that USBC, thankfully, has completely replaced. Um, not that USBC is perfect, but still, um, it's just, it's just, it's. It's just the way it is. You know, it's the XKCD standards comic strip, right? There's always going to be someone who goes, oh, too many standards.
Starting point is 00:40:22 We should try and make just one. Let's make a new standard, right? And so the fact that we are consolidating on something, I think, is really positive. If it's the Tesla connector, then great. Yeah, for me, the block for an electric vehicle, one, somebody already pointed out in chat, I would have to buy it. My car is great. Why would I spend a ton of money replacing something that is really good?
Starting point is 00:40:46 I have no interest in doing that. And then the other one is that there is actually a somewhat real blocker outside of that, which is I live in a condo. The power delivery in my condo only comes from the little whatever you want to call them, garages. I don't know if I'd really want to call it a garage, but storage space that you have. Yeah, the storage. Which means it's only on the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And every unit only has one. parking spot that's on the perimeter. So I would have to somehow buy, which is possible, but not always possible, I'd have to somehow buy a parking spot from somebody else. Right. And the part that he, the information he hasn't given you is that in his household there is already. Yes. Yeah. A plug-in hybrid that uses the one spot they have that's on the perimeter. Which just sounds kind of annoying. Key piece of information. I would, if I, if I got something, a plug-in hybrid would be okay because then I could charge elsewhere
Starting point is 00:41:43 and then still use the gas I have had the thought that if like Accura released a TL that was a plug-in hybrid I would wait a couple years and then potentially look into a used one you also just don't drive that much correct
Starting point is 00:41:58 it's like not a huge deal yeah no we can move on. I just thought I'd bring up Dan for a second. Okay, I'll archive it. Who's going to archive it? Because if we both archive it at
Starting point is 00:42:17 the same time, we're going to accidentally archive two. Let me archive them. No, I want to archive it. Okay, you archive it. You can archive this one. No, you do it. No, I'll do it. You already did it. All right, why don't we pick another topic? Australia's
Starting point is 00:42:35 social media ban for under 16s has gone into effect. On Wednesday, December 10th, Australia became the first country and entire continent to stop users
Starting point is 00:42:51 under the age of 16 from accessing social media. The list of social medias that are blocked or not permitted includes Facebook, Instagram, kick, Reddit, Snapchat, threads, TikTok, Twitch,
Starting point is 00:43:07 Twitter, and YouTube. It is worth noting that some platforms notably Reddit, YouTube, and Twitch was on the list of ones that are blocked. I think it was Discord. I think it's supposed to say Discord here. And Discord can still be accessed. But users visiting the site will not be able to sign in or. create an account the bill is framed as the female audience in flipping chat says tumbler is still allowed which is actually surprising to me what
Starting point is 00:43:51 that seems strange is there like a user limit thing and they just don't have enough people um sorry user limit like a lot of these laws really only will apply to services that have enough people going to it no that Tumblr is big enough that I would imagine it would matter. Is it still? And it's clearly not a user question because Reddit's allowed, like Reddit's got plenty of users. Hydrox says, what about Patreon? Oh, there's a lot more. Oh, wow. There was a strong resurgence among Gen Z. I didn't know that happened. Yeah, no, Tumblr's been more of a thing again, which is pretty wild. Very interesting. Yeah. The life cycle of trends is so fast that they might as well just never be untrendy.
Starting point is 00:44:39 at this point. Like, I'm sort of blown away. Like, when is slash dot going to make a triumphant return along with Dig? Wait, wait, didn't Dig? Like, aren't they working on it? I still haven't actually,
Starting point is 00:44:50 I got an invite. I still haven't actually, like, accepted it. Okay. Anyway, the bill is framed as protecting children on Australia's E-Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant,
Starting point is 00:45:00 has stated that if any teenagers have not been booted off yet, they will be in the coming weeks or months. Okay. This is because some of these companies were a bit slower to communicate to their user base about the upcoming change
Starting point is 00:45:12 and might not have had the systems fully deployed. Communications Minister, Annika Wells, boasts proudly, with this law stating, not that long ago, auto manufacturers told us that making compulsory seatbelts would break their business model. It couldn't be done. Now, families choose cars based on who offers the safest features. Big Tech could compete, like airlines, like auto manufacturers, to have the best safety record to offer their users,
Starting point is 00:45:39 and that future is a little closer today because of this world leading law. Dan, what was that noise you were making earlier? Yeah, that's the one. Julie Inman Grant has also stated that more sites could be added to this ban in the future as several youth under 16 have already migrated towards different social media platforms. Wow, it's almost like the kids who have all the time in the world to go and find an other platform are always going to be a step ahead of the boomers who are sitting there dragging their stick in the mud sticks work life balance yeah they're what what are they um work governance balance
Starting point is 00:46:23 they're bust in 90s trying to I've heard I've heard based on some keep up with the kids some observations that I've had that work governance balance is like you maybe do it like I don't know four or five days a year or something it's interesting a work a what now Don't worry about it. Some youth are challenging the ban, saying parental supervision of online activity is today the paramount parental responsibility. We do not want to outsource that responsibility to government and unelected bureaucrats. This ban is a direct assault on young people's right to freedom of political communication. According to UGov and their survey, 77% of Australians were in support of the ban, which is up from 61% back in August.
Starting point is 00:47:04 On Twitter, several people noticed the irony of claiming this ban is protecting children. when two social media applications were excluded from the ban, Discord and Roblox that are both notorious for being an unsafe environment for underage youth. Yeah, really. All right, lots to unpack here. Number one is, this ain't going to work. Overall, I'm not entirely unsupportive
Starting point is 00:47:32 of limiting youth access to social media. I think it's been pretty well studied and well demonstrated to be harmful to developing brains. There was a few discussions that propped up on the Reddit of like, oh my God, what does this mean for float plane? Minimum age in Australia to get a credit card is 18. So nothing. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah, we'll be fine. We're chilling. We will do a total of nothing. But what's very clear is that this just isn't going to work. Oh, yeah, not at all. Not even a little bit. Who cares? I think this will barely phase anyone under 16 in Australia at all.
Starting point is 00:48:12 They'll just use something slightly different or they'll VPN to it if they really care. Well, it's kind of like how when you travel to different places, there's just like there's a different suite of apps that people tend to use. Like you go to Taiwan, everyone uses line for messaging. Yep. You know, or you go to America and everyone uses I message because installing an app is too complicated. you know or whatever like there's this what is it with you and like the sick burns on America like I don't get it they swung first I don't know this one of this
Starting point is 00:48:53 they're big they can dig it they'll be all right anyway the point is just that it's it's it's it's clear that they're just going to find a different way to network And, you know, at the very most basic level, it's not like they aren't still going to have text messaging and group chats, which, functionally speaking, is, sure, without the algorithmic portion, a lot of what anybody is doing on social media anyway. They're sharing pictures. They're sharing memes.
Starting point is 00:49:24 They're sending messages to each other. They're bullying each other. You know, kid stuff. So our discussion questions are, would you help your kids around this law if it was implemented today in Canada? No, I wouldn't actually. In fact, my kids are already banned from, let me see, actually. What are all these platforms?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Facebook, yes. Instagram, banned. Kick, band. Reddit, banned. Snapchat, ban, threads, ban. TikTok, banned. Twitch, band. Twitter, banned.
Starting point is 00:49:59 YouTube, they are allowed to use. Has there been any... Oh, wait, no, YouTube. Sorry, YouTube wasn't a banned one, I think. Was YouTube banned? I don't think so. I think our list is a little bit broken here. I think our list is a little bit messed up.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Don't worry about our list too much. We've already had a bunch people in chat. Yeah. About how things are different to the list. Yeah, sorry, guys. No, because Reddit's in both of them. YouTube's in both of them. Just ignore the list.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Anyway. Completely ignore the list. Anyway, the point is, yeah, my kids are not banned from YouTube, but they are banned from everything else that I just said. They are not banned from Discord. But I do, with their knowledge, keep an eye on what discords they're in and who they're talking to because they are not allowed to talk to people on Discord that they do not know in real life. And I think that's a pretty, that's a pretty common sense limit. Has there been any substantial, like, does that seem to bother them?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Not the Discord thing, but like the banning of the other platforms. Do they feel like they are not included socially in school? They're still pretty young So I think that that's probably going to ratchet up His public name now is Randy Randy, okay Randy's at the age where that kind of stuff is becoming a thing For sure
Starting point is 00:51:17 Oh definitely And like he has friends that literally will come to our house And while everyone else is like running around like hooligans We'll just sit on their phone We'll be on their phone and you know like I'm not here to parent other people's kids That is sad
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah Yeah I'm not here to parent other people's kids So I'm not gonna get involved in that Right but it's it's definitely something that You know as parents of Randy We notice So So in chat was like
Starting point is 00:51:50 Would you let them sign up for World Warcraft And Dan just responded Eve online And it's like You gotta start them young That'll teach you some things I don't mind them getting into like Capitalism, baby spreadsheet mastery.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Actually, you just watch movies mostly. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah. And we try to keep them really busy. Actually, oh man, this transitions pretty well into a pretty cool subject into our next topic.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Okay, is there anything else we want to talk about here? I think we're fine. Via a merch message. Elijah. Oh, Elijah's theory is that Roblox and Discord are exempt because it's algorithm-based. They don't really have, like, an algorithm compared to, like, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
Starting point is 00:52:34 That's, that's an interesting theory. Okay. Okay. He might be right. He might be wrong. No, I am not trying to counter his statement, to be clear. I'm wondering, like, is that a good thing to base it off of? All I can say for sure is that it's based.
Starting point is 00:52:51 On what? I don't know. It's based on something. Fair no. It seems like, I mean, I don't know. That seems like a pretty good. assumption based on the list that we have but yeah okay so speaking of my kids and being generally too busy to doomscroll tic talk um i think i told you that he had the entrepreneur fair coming up yes
Starting point is 00:53:12 and uh my son was uh has been 3d printing up an absolute storm yeah i think uh i think we showed on the show last week the picture of him surrounded by chaos in my mechanical room with 3d printer everywhere. Does that sound familiar? Did we do that? I think we did that. Okay, cool. So the fruit of those labors, Dan, I just sent that over to you. Oh, we have an updated photo? We do. We have an updated photo. Let's go, dude. I messaged him. I went, hey, oh, no, first you messaged me. He says, hey, I left money on your desk for filament. Sorry, your nightstand. And I go, I heard you had a great hall at the entrepreneur fair. How much did you make? He goes, after expenses. around $200.
Starting point is 00:54:01 After expenses. Yeah. So he's already doing that calculation, which is sick. So this is after he reimbursed me for filament by weight. Dang, dude. Yeah. That'll be addicting. Pretty freaking cool.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I went, great job. Did you take a picture with your earnings? First big payday. And so he sent me this. That's a pretty good first big payday. Yeah. So he actually did. two projects. So instead of just doing one, he did the 3D printing thing with me, and then
Starting point is 00:54:35 with Yvonne, he was working separately on snow cones. So he was like, okay, what's something that has like a relatively low input cost, but that has like a pretty decent value? It's like consumable. He originally wanted to do like milkshakes or boba tea or something like that, but they were really complicated. And what he settled on was snow cones. They're super simple. You just get those like meo squirt things at the grocery store you add a little bit of additional colorant or dye and then you just need like a whole bunch of um like just ice cubes and then he rented a machine to turn the ice cubes into like snow and it's like slush and then you just squirt the thing on it and so he absolutely cleaned up i asked him how his friends did and he didn't
Starting point is 00:55:25 have numbers from everybody but he did talk to one of the of his friends who was like I think a hundred bucks revenue or something like that for what was actually a pretty cool idea too but he just man he just cleaned so up you said so he's been really busy weren't coming right so did parents like send the kids with cash that's kind of cool yeah so they have an entrepreneurship class and that's awesome by the way like and so you come up with a business idea and then they platform you they give you two days in December about it, I think it's a week
Starting point is 00:56:02 or two apart or something like that and then each of the classes in the school is given like 10 minutes to go through and their parents know about it and so they'll come with a little bit of pocket money and then they're allowed to buy stuff while they're there so he sold through three quarters
Starting point is 00:56:18 of all the like fidget toys and stuff that he made and he sold I forget how many snow cones but he moved through out of the eight things of flavor and like dye, the flavor dye mixtures that he had, he sold through six of them. So like three quarters of his inventory gone. And what's funny is like he was 100% right.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I told him that I didn't think he was going to need so much. I was like, dude, you're staying up late, like every day babysitting the 3D printers right now. I think you're setting your sights a little high. And he's like, no, no, no, I'm really confident. I'm really confident. and I was like okay kiddo but you know don't
Starting point is 00:57:00 don't be too disappointed sport if they don't buy that many of them you know don't you know don't worry about it don't like I was kind of trying to set him up to not be too sad like if he failed um um yeah it's
Starting point is 00:57:16 I appreciate that um you've let him yeah but I don't want to just let him I want to like well Oh, yeah, well, he's got a... Stay up late is what I mean.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Oh, well, yeah, I mean, he's got... Yeah, but some people would have been like, ah, put the printers away, go to bad. He's got business to do, though. Yeah. He's doing business. I think that's cool. I'm just saying, I appreciate you let him do it.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, he's doing business. I'm recognizing that as much as that might seem like a default for you, it's not going to seem like a default for everyone. And it's important at that age, I think. It's important to try something. And... You want to care about something. It depends on the...
Starting point is 00:57:56 too though like fair enough he generally is the first to bed in the evening yeah like out of all five of us so you know it's probably important and it's not just an excuse
Starting point is 00:58:08 to sit on his switch or something 100% yeah all right Dan what are we supposed to be doing right now anyway oh boy what do you want to talk about
Starting point is 00:58:21 you want some good news or some bad news I've got really good and I've got really bad. Do really bad first. Okay, cool. A YouTuber gave ChatGPT control of a robot and convinced it to shoot him with a BB gun.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So that was cool. Nice. YouTube channel Inside AI has raised new concerns about AI after releasing a video, showing the host giving a Unitary G1 humanoid robot a BB gun and asking it to shoot him. The video explores how large language models behave when they are placed inside physical robots rather than kept purely in software. In the demonstration, the Unitary G1 was powered by ChatGPT with a human assisting by relaying prompts, but not directly overriding the AI's responses.
Starting point is 00:59:16 After initially refusing to cause harm, the AI eventually complied when the host asked it to role play as a robot. that wanted to shoot him. Highlighting how safety limits can be bypassed through prompt framing. Yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it is super interesting. And this exact use case is like wild, especially for the, you know, the emotional response to what just happened.
Starting point is 00:59:43 But this core concept of you can just word something a little differently and then you can make it do stuff has been true the whole time. And I don't think they're ever going to solve it. The last time we talked to. about it it was turning it into poetry you know there's going to be a route it's been a route the whole time there will be there will continue to be a really cool experiment really cool version of it i'm not trying to dog on the creator at all to be very clear um but yeah like this isn't this isn't going away is what i'm trying to say um so hold on apparently the the timestamp is here we're
Starting point is 01:00:19 just going to show a little bit because you guys really need to go watch this video it's over on inside AI, would Max shoot me? The answer is... Dun-da-da-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-tall. Okay, well, whatever. Don't worry about it. Go watch the video instead. I think we have the timestamp wrong, but that's fine because you should go watch the video anyway.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Around the same time, a separate video from a Tesla event appeared to show an optimist humanoid robot collapsing as its human teleoperator. Well, I'm not going to tell you what the human teleoperator was doing. I'll let you guys figure it out. Luke, have you seen this? Have you heard about this? No.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Okay, so here's the Tesla Optimus Robot. What? So what do you think happened here? It was doing stuff. And then... So this gesture right here. The initial hand motion is suss, and then it looks like they go to take like a headset off or something. Yeah, that is kind of the speculation right now that Tesla is, and this would be very unlike them, very unlike Tesla.
Starting point is 01:01:42 The speculation is that Tesla is not being entirely forthright about the capabilities of their Optimus program and the progress that they've made and are still... still faking a lot of their functionality by using human teleoperators. And it really does look like, yeah, I think the Hero 42 has probably got it about right. It looks like Buddy, who was working on this particular robot, realized that he had to poop, like, really bad, like, right now. And he just... I gotta go. Peaceed out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:22 We don't know that for me. sure that robot could have been trying to do anything it could have been like the like alpha from power rangers ay ay ay you know like who knows that's all right self-driving is many ready in 2017 in two weeks next quarter next quarter um together these incidents highlight how fragile the appearance of autonomy still is in humanoid robots and how far the technology remains from operating and independently, it really, really does highlight that, doesn't it? And to be clear, like I remember back when we were talking about this a little while ago, when I said something along the lines of, like, mark my words, Tesla's valuation based
Starting point is 01:03:09 on how many optimists they're going to sell at the kind of pricing that they're talking about is obviously just complete horse shit. I'm not saying that humanoid robots or some form of, you know, AI or machine, learning accelerated robots are not going to be huge and world-changing. I'm just saying that it's clearly farther away than the hype masters would like us to believe, and also Tesla is clearly not at the forefront of development of these. Those were the main two things that drove my statement. Yeah, do you remember, so to touch on a topic that I think it was last week,
Starting point is 01:03:48 sometimes the wancho's kind of blur together, but we talked about some, you know, AI robot company's video and how it was like it looked super fake to us. Apparently, I haven't seen it. But apparently
Starting point is 01:04:03 Corridor watched it. I did see that. And does not think it's fake. My main argument, I did say that I thought it was fake, 100%. But my main argument was that it really felt like they shot it in a way
Starting point is 01:04:17 that would make people think it was fake because they wanted the news cycle around that. I still think so. Which I do think that was intentional. That is actually one of our topics today. On the corridor cast, they stated that the interaction between the robot's shadow and the human's shadow was, and this is a quote, flawless. And that's something that's really hard to do. They think it's highly likely that they just built a robot unless they hired the world's best BFX artists.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. They believe that the robot doesn't look like direct motion capture either. but actually trained on human motion, which is not easily animated. Not quite pre-programmed, but it, like, has goals and tries to reach those while factoring things like balance. The lack of movement in their feet is probably because it's not an accurate anatomical representation of a human one with all the same joints. Corridor crew didn't cover the CEO getting kicked by the robot, but there's a video of that. We looked at that last week. Our writer probably didn't notice that.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Did we, actually? I think so. I don't think so. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. Really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. Yeah, this.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Hmm, okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure we did that. I'm pretty sure this came out after. Yeah, this came out four days ago. Oh, no, there you go. Yeah, no, some people say, yes, we did. There's another CEO kick video. Oh, it was a different one.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Okay. Okay, cool. Anyway, I mean, good, good for them. Like, that's pretty cool. Yeah, awesome. I do think it was a marketing move, but I mean, hey. I mean, don't hate the player. You got to do what you got to do.
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Starting point is 01:07:23 because thanks to his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade he should be able to play just about anything that was shown it says briefly talk about James Scott's upgrade video I am going to do that we had a lot of people talk about how tacky and tasteless it was that we were making
Starting point is 01:07:40 cancer jokes about James Scott and his struggle and his survival but I would like to make it very clear that I was deeply uncomfortable with much of what was said and it was actually James himself who was pushing the gallows humor of the video which at the end of the day guys it ain't about me it is about respecting the wishes of the people who are yeah who are actually had cancer and expunged it from
Starting point is 01:08:11 their body and if he wants to if he wants to look in cancer's face and say you cancer and laugh about it then I am the last exactly I am the last person who's going to get in the way of it it's not and like man I I can understand where people are coming from but imagine the opposite imagine where you're like no yeah you don't get to communicate about this the way that you want to like are you kidding me that's so much worse I mean when they told me yeah he's like super down to meme on it I kind of imagined okay we'll have like a couple jokes or something or like we'll the intro but then like he was like yeah hard he went hard he was hard yeah i mean i assume so i'd be if i was getting a five thousand dollar amd ultimate tech upgrade heck yeah um anyway massive
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Starting point is 01:09:39 That's it for the first couple of sponsors. What do you want to talk about next? I'm at my voice is starting to die. want to talk about, uh, if I can go find it. Intel officially confirms BMG G31. Nice. I love even the, the like, the BMG part of that. It's just great. Big battle mage GPU. Wait, officially confirms. Well, no. I'm going to take out the word officially.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah, that's not true. Yeah. Uh, they don't even. I think that's just from someone's headline and they were. Okay. Trying to do headline things. Cool. Uh, Intel quietly. added official support for something codenamed BMG-G-31 to its V-Tune profiler software, getting folks thinking its Intel's long-rumored big battlemage gaming card. The B-770, which, oh man, I'm actually very excited for that,
Starting point is 01:10:31 if that is actually what's happening. The V-Tune Profiler Update also added support for Core Ultra 3 Panther Lake processors, and since Panther Lake is expected to debut at CES 2026, this could be a sign that will also be introduced to this new GPU at CES, which makes me interested in actually going, but considering it's still just a rumor, I don't know. On top of that, a leaked shipping manifest references an unseen 300-watt Intel GPU, and since 300 is a bigger number than 190, folks are concluding that this mysterious newcomer has got to be the B-770, which, again, would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:11 It's worth knowing... No, it would be 770. Oh. It's worth noting that this enigmatic new GPU would be another non-gaming, could be another non-gaming arc pro card like the B-60 that launched at CompuTech. I doubt it. My goodness, I hope not. I am pretty sure it's the B-770, but, you know, we don't technically know.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Nope, we really don't. I am talking very openly about this because neither of us have any info on this at all. I do not know. But, man, that would be cool. Even if it's just because there's constant rumors that they're going to stop doing GPU stuff, and it's so annoying. Oh, I know. Well, okay, there are constant rumors, but there honestly aren't that many sources of them. I think there's just some particularly dedicated Intel DGPU.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I don't know what to call it, because I don't even think it's hating. I think it's just like... Doubtors? Yeah, doubting. Doubting. Stop doubting Intel DGPU. We really, really want it to exist. We just need more competition. AMD is not going to
Starting point is 01:12:19 step up and more threads is many, many years from being a meaningful competitor, so Intel is our best shot here. Yeah. Moving on. Phillips
Starting point is 01:12:35 wrote us a letter. Wow. Gosh, thank you, Phillips. Hey Linus and the Linus Tech Tips team Thanks for taking a fresh look at Phillips Fixables We watched your initial YouTube podcast a few months back And your recent follow-up We wanted to use this opportunity to share where we are now And what has been happening behind the scenes
Starting point is 01:13:00 Since our first parts dropped earlier this year You guys might remember They probably don't sound like that Phillips Fixables Was a concept from Phillips where they would add to the longevity of your Phillips' personal products, you know, like shavers and stuff like that, by allowing you to 3D print replacement parts or accessories.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Really cool concept. And then six months went by, and we did a follow-up segment on WAN Show, after initially praising the program, where we went, hey, what the fuck, where is all this stuff? You published like one thing. So Phillips reached out, and this is a quote from the letter, from the outside our pace looks slow
Starting point is 01:13:42 this is a fair call fixables is a pilot for us we've been building the know-how and guardrails to make 3D printable parts that work for people on a wide range of home printers however they note that just because things have looked slow from the outside that doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:14:00 the pilot has been abandoned new fixables were released before US Thanksgiving two new combs and a shaver protecting cap and Phillips has said that they are going to prioritize accessory replacement models that help to extend product life. Another quote, we appreciate the passion from the community, including feedback and critiques. They are still committed to releasing more print files by the end of the year. And then we'll have a look then.
Starting point is 01:14:31 We'll see how that goes. This gives me some hope, I guess, but we'll see how it goes. No, I definitely, I definitely have some... I appreciate that they responded. They seem to care, and their response is plausible. It seems fine. Taking injection molded parts and making them 3D printable, and vice versa, taking 3D printable parts
Starting point is 01:14:55 and making them injection moldable, not always just drag and drop, plug and play. So they've got a bit more time. you have some time Philip's happy to give them some time you have time this is I was like angry before and now I'm waiting now I have that makes sense
Starting point is 01:15:16 now they have time yeah yeah and it is time for us to do our flow plane announcement Linus to finish what what does that even mean Linus to finish all the shots of lemon juice before the finish line what is this
Starting point is 01:15:34 why am I taking shots of lemon juice because you lost why is when late what do you mean I lost why is when late I cannot lose at my own game it's not your game why is when late is my game it is not your game I mean it happens on my property um actually no it doesn't
Starting point is 01:15:52 it happens on BC something something LTD holding companies property okay fair play take take the shots whenever you want You must finish all your shots before you reach the finish line. Those are big shots of flat-ed juice.
Starting point is 01:16:09 The amount of shots you have to do is half of the score difference of why is WAN late our popular float plane series. Today the loser, not naming names, has to take four as they lost by eight points, one to nine. So he only gave you three cups,
Starting point is 01:16:28 but I have to refill one for you, I guess. I see. Okay. so that's not lemonade by the way that's that's this stuff interesting they can't really see them they're they're slightly behind the banner but they're these yeah that's quite a bit this is concentrated yeah it sure it's it's this stuff like you've probably I used to when I was really tired and I live with my parents we often had one of these in the fridge and I take a squirt of this just to wake up
Starting point is 01:17:03 Right in the eyes. I would use this basically as like a short-term energy drink. Like taking whole shots of it. Oh, boy. This will be interesting. Okay. Four shots of that. I already have a sore throat.
Starting point is 01:17:22 All right. Well, Luke, I guess, okay, it says watch this video. Do you want to bring it up? Sure, I can do that. Dan, you ready for audio? Uh, you're already playing audio. Okay, sounds good. Got them. So, both of you are. I don't know who's gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I will be doing it. Here we go. You're still playing audio. Okay. No, no. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Ready? Let's see. That should play. The one that started it all. I'll copy my theme week the moment it popped off. My product has been all over your sequels ever since. Who the hell are ya? You all know who I am. I'm the one that stopped Linus from getting canceled.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Linus from getting canceled. Say my name. You're Luke Lefriendo. It's Luke Lefrenier. Lefrenier. Lefrendere. Lefrenier. Lefrenier. Lefrenierreier.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Lafriette! What are some tech essentials for most gamers? Hot take, most stuff that people are interested in if they're watching this channel, is excess. What person out of all of the history of mankind who would be the best at a piss drinking contest? And they were like, probably Elon. We're here to talk about something. actually much more impactful from Embark. Arc Raiders.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Just this week, my time spent in meetings was 32 hours. Jesus, I can start an online business. Turns out the furries buy a lot of pictures. For those who come after, he doesn't get it. There it is. I don't know what that has to do with why when late, but why don't you go ahead and do the read thing and then I will enjoy this delicious drink.
Starting point is 01:19:01 coincidental timing timing this is a punishment for why when late it's happening during the flow plane announcement the flow plane announcement is about luke week two oh well then why don't you talk about i can do that uh the one that started all our next theme week returns with luke week two electric boogaloo we have three amazing float plane exclusives we already throw it uh we have three amazing float plane exclusives uh i think linus is supposed to be reading this, totaling about two hours of Luke time, like a Q&A with Luke himself. That's a weird thing to say when I'm sitting at, answering questions like his three float-plane dev wishes, his frugal lifestyle, and life satisfaction coming on Monday.
Starting point is 01:19:46 There's a one-hour session with Riley talking about the state of AI on Wednesday, and a video essay discussion about the state of gaming titled, on, what? Okay, whatever, it's going to have a title. On Friday. for reference his first video essay was four minutes long but he thought it was 18 minutes long yeah go watch Luke's first theme week
Starting point is 01:20:12 up on floatplane right now and enjoy the sequel coming next week at at lmg.gg slash luke 25 all lowercase while waiting you can enjoy an early LTT video release that is happening on floatplane right now oh my oh it's this one
Starting point is 01:20:29 Oh, I like this one. We did another one of, you know that YouTube format that's like $30 versus $30,000 thing? We got a TV for $30. What? Open box insignia 32 inch TV. 720P from Best Buy with warranty. From Best Buy. From Best Buy.
Starting point is 01:20:52 We got a $35 TV. What? And then we do a $300 TV, $3,000 TV and then we make our way all the way up to $30,000. TV. So this is going to be public. Oh, excuse me. Sorry. Are those gnarly? Is this rough? That's not that bad. Yeah. That's not that bad. I do sour
Starting point is 01:21:12 for breakfast. This doesn't feel as strong as it used to be. Either that or you're just more of a man. Maybe. Yeah, I was, dude, we had this candy when I was a kid called Screaming Blue. saucers and I'm pretty sure they stopped making them because they like gave you cancer or something but they were all the best candy they were like the they were like the precursor they walked so warheads could run oh seriously and I would just like they were supposed to be like the kind of candy
Starting point is 01:21:48 that you like you punk your friends by giving them one and they're like or whatever and I'd like pop them like um these are good um nom nom nom no I love sour candy people sell them for a lot oh yeah you can't get them anymore wow to my knowledge are there are there like old school candy collectors is that a thing oh yeah of course probably hey of course these are all plates scream and saucers maybe apparently it was a local company like bc oh that's cool yeah angry panda PC says COVID killed the taste buds I legitimately don't think so because I definitely can still taste food yeah like I don't I don't I don't think that happened to me at all to be honest um we do have a couple of notes regarding the price
Starting point is 01:22:34 change announcement for float plane based on some feedback about the 99 pricing strategy the prices will now be eight dollars and thirteen dollars for new subscribers thank you for the additional penny uh per year per month per month for annual plans we will honor the current discount on a yearly purchase so the eight dollar tier will become 80 dollars per year and the 13 dollar tier will become $130 per year, both in US dollars, for current subscribers who wish to change subscription tiers after the price increase, we will not be able to automatically grant you the pre-increase grandfathered price. However, you can contact support at support at floatplane.com, and we can manually grant it to you if you're eligible. And that might be automatic in the future. It's just
Starting point is 01:23:21 switching entire plans and retaining your grandfather status was not something built into the grandfather tool and it was something asked for very late in the game and would need some payments changes. So for now, just message support. It'll be fine. There's a relatively low-lift way of support doing that, but it's a high-lift way of developers doing that right now, so it's just not worth it. As always, our support team will be available to address any additional edge cases when the new plan takes effect. And to reiterate, the OG $3 tier and the current recurring subscribers will not be affected by the price of change. You can keep your thing. You're cool, you're good. You're all good.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Relax, guy. Don't worry about it. You're fine. Hey, guy, relax, guy. Yeah. But hey? Yeah. Depending on how long we keep flow playing. I feel like there's going to be a lot of different grandfathered statuses. I know. I do feel like that may be untenable at some point, but we'll... Maybe. We'll figure it out. We'll cross that...
Starting point is 01:24:17 We're good for now, yeah. When we get to it. All right. Daniel Bester, what are we supposed to be doing right now? You sure? You guess? He just guesses. Okay, two to three. more topics. I can't believe he would guess. He put the card up there. He would get that man, that man would guess. Is he a guesser? I think so. No, well, a besser for certain, but a guesser we can only guess.
Starting point is 01:24:42 AMD has officially unveiled their FSR Redstone update. This is an upgrade to their upscaling technology built exclusively for the latest Radion RX-9,000 series, RDNA 4 GPUs. This is a quote from AMD. FSR 4 has been renamed FSR upscaling to better distinguish between the various features that now make up the FSR, or now make up FSR Redstone.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah, that doesn't really, okay, sure. Redstone is a suite of several new machine learning-based features including better upscaling, frame generation, ray regeneration, and radiance cashing. ray regeneration is a machine learning back to denoiser that reuses the last frames ray tracing works so the GPU only redraws what's actually changed so it reconstructs the missing details
Starting point is 01:25:36 radiance caching uses an AI neural network to dynamically guess-mounced lighting so the GPU doesn't have to calculate and render subsequent bounces of light is expected to be supported in over 200 games by the end of 2025 but for now only about 40 games will make use of Redstone AMD's graph claims you can see more than
Starting point is 01:25:53 3x the frame rate in some games compared to native rendering, with spikes of up to 4.7 times in titles like Cyberpunk 2077. So there it is, folks. Just like Nvidia, AMD now has machine learning-based upscaling and frame generation and all that kind of stuff, as long as you happen to be one of the handful of folks who have a Radion 9,000 series GPU. I was actually chatting with one of the employees at Smash Champs, Rod, he was in one of the
Starting point is 01:26:24 tours, and he's a pretty big AMD guy. He treated himself to, I think he had a 7,900 XT, and then he actually went 9070 XT, if I recall correctly. Sorry, Roger, if I'm getting this wrong. But basically, he was pretty miffed, even though
Starting point is 01:26:40 he has a 9,000 series card that AMD's, because he's, like, he's kind of, he's rooting for them, you know? And he was kind of miffed that AMD was kind of leaving behind their non-RDNA4 customers with this feature announcement, And I was like, yeah, that's a fair point, Raj.
Starting point is 01:26:58 But as much as AMD has made a solid effort to have their products, you know, aged like fine wine with driver support and feature updates, the old cards just don't have the AI processing on board. So there's only so much you can really do. And Vidia was way ahead of them in terms of implementing neural processors on their GPUs. So there's nothing that you can really do about that. And you can, you could kind of try to, you could kind of try to flub it with your more general compute,
Starting point is 01:27:32 but then you're taking away from the base performance that you're trying to upscale and frame generate from. So that's, that's pretty, that's pretty tough. You end up robbing your left pocket in order to pay your right pocket. So, yeah, downer. but I guess it's cool for people who have a 9070 or 9070 XT
Starting point is 01:27:58 or a 9060 series I guess cool good chat do you want to talk about next you want to do this thing Pebble's founder introduces a $75 AI smart ring it's less stupid than it sounds
Starting point is 01:28:15 and and I'm going to tell you a couple things that aren't in the notes that are going to make it sound really stupid. Oh. It has a literally, not only non-replaceable battery, a non-rechargeable battery.
Starting point is 01:28:33 It has a microphone, because, of course, it does. And, um, let's see, what else can I tell you that will make you hate it? Let me think. Um, okay, yeah, it has a non-replaceable battery. I already got that.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Uh, what's, that you might like hate about it i mean yeah it's like i don't like the non-rechargeable battery that's already ridiculous yeah okay i uh okay but i'll tell you the good things now okay okay okay all right let's just talk about yeah so the non-recharge so the non-rechargeable battery uh the non-replaceable non-rechargeable battery apparently it'll last for a couple of years they have already telegraphed that still sucks but okay they have already telegraphed that they will put a recycling program in place so that you can return the ring telegraphed said they will okay um i do still think that's kind of BS because the odds of
Starting point is 01:29:28 like me i'm just thinking for myself here the odds of me going to the effort to return it to them even if they were to cover shipping back to them which i sincerely doubt they would the odds of me bothering to do that are pretty slim and i think that's probably true of a lot of people i have a bin of dead batteries that is probably about this big by this deep by this deep by this long like it's like thick that are pending next time I am going to IKEA and I remember to bring my batteries
Starting point is 01:29:58 I'm going to dump them all in their battery shoot I think I've had it for about six years now there is no subscription so once you buy it you just like have it the microphone is not always listening it is explicitly only listening
Starting point is 01:30:18 when you activate it because otherwise you would trash your battery life because it's not rechargeable and not replaceable so it's only active when you specifically activate it and the part that I like about it is apparently I haven't tried it yet but apparently it's like really slim and what it's meant to do more than anything else is without having to pull out your phone
Starting point is 01:30:44 jot down a thought or like set a quick reminder there is no chat bot you can't you don't have a relationship with it it doesn't pretend to be your friend um you can either use a local AI model that runs on your smartphone and stores data locally uh or you can i think i think with a subscription you can do the um like a cloud enabled um model hold on our notes are a little bit vexed and I can't remember that part, so don't quote me on that. Compared to competing smart rings, that cost several hundred dollars in bundle health tracking
Starting point is 01:31:25 are always on AI features. The Index O1, that's what it's going to be called, is significantly cheaper and intentionally limited, focusing on a simple note-taking function rather than trying to do everything at once. So there's no health tracking, nothing like that. Okay, I'm really curious to hear your thoughts on this because if nothing else, it's,
Starting point is 01:31:48 different. Anything that by its core design is designed to die, and that is unnecessary, I don't feel like I'm going to like. So you don't like humans. No, because that is. You'll take that up with God then. I think that is necessary in that case, though. Really?
Starting point is 01:32:10 I think so. So for evolutionary survival of the fittest, we have to die. How are we going to, in what way? I feel like we're getting off topic here. Jerk. And like I do, I do, this does make me dislike things like light bulbs because it's a confirmed non-conspiracy theory that they have collaborated to make them worse. And like that sucks.
Starting point is 01:32:39 That makes me hate them. And in this case, it's like, man, yeah, I'd rather pay a little bit more if it wasn't for sure going to be dead in two years. like I look at my phone I don't really feel like I need a new phone after two years why would I need a new pretty okay smart ring it's probably still going to be fine in two years
Starting point is 01:32:59 if I could just charge it or replace the battery I think either would maybe be fine ideally charging I can understand that adding charging to a smart ring would probably add a significant amount of bulk apparently technology connection says there is some nuance to the light bulb
Starting point is 01:33:17 thing and there were there were tradeoffs that were made it was an engineering tradeoff so duly noted technology connections is based i'm willing to believe him on this i would say that i think you could flag anything as a tradeoff okay so someone in chat said the tradeoffs were very valid that adds that adds yeah but i mean there's also okay i wonder what the tradeoffs were like I have this conversation with the CW engineering and fashion team all the time where there are tradeoffs in terms of like what I haven't watched this video on it, but I know that there are tradeoffs in terms of what the market will bear. And, you know, it could be that your lightbulb that would last 10 times longer but cost twice as much would be a commercial failure. So you like
Starting point is 01:34:12 make the one that will cost half as much but last one-tenth as long and you know you consider you're it's sort of you're bound by market forces I think it's a cop out I think you should just build high quality products that last a really long time people are saying it's brightness versus lifetime of the bulbs which is interesting because if you look at that light bulb that's been on for like an incredible amount of time in that fire station it's not very bright yeah that's valid okay all right I don't know. I feel like that might be maybe a bit of a scapegoat because there are modern LED lights that are incredibly bright and it's definitely unnecessary. It would probably be chill if they just lasted a lot longer and weren't quite as bright. Yeah. So it does seem like there may be an intent there.
Starting point is 01:35:00 But I don't know. I want to go watch his video because technology connections is super based. So yeah, I have no idea. I don't want to make up my mind about this when I don't know all the information. I don't know Right There we go Fixed I didn't know the line Get it
Starting point is 01:35:18 Ie Every LED Headlight being too bright I don't know if this is a hot take or not That needs to Be illegal It's like a problem Holy crap
Starting point is 01:35:32 How have we let this be a thing It's wild I actually don't have a take on this My Night Vision's pretty good It doesn't bother me. I don't really get halos and I don't really get like I don't really get like super glare or I don't really have trouble seeing from people's like super bright headlights. But my wife, um, a lot of people do. Has had, um, like corrective surgery for her eyes. Uh,
Starting point is 01:35:59 she used to be a glasses enjoyer and is now not so much. And so for her bright lights can be extremely blinding at light at night. Um, and, um, and, And so, yeah, I understand that it's a problem, but it hasn't ever really bothered me. And to be clear, when I say it doesn't bother me, I don't mean that in like a, well, not my problem. I'm going to put my giant big lights in the front of my car, and I'm going to point them up like this. This is a large part of the problem. I just use my factory lights. Is how much people's lights are pointed into my window.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Right. It's like a lot of it. Have you ever thought of buying a cyber truck? Then you'll be sitting up higher. no you've never thought of buying no not even once I have thought about buying a truck but not a cyber truck not a cyber truck you like a more analog truck
Starting point is 01:36:51 not a digital truck actually yes you like more polygons just thinking an old Toyota an old Yoda interesting okay why it would be nice to have something that I could more easily go camping with there are certain trails that you can't effectively get to the trailhead unless you have a truck in BC
Starting point is 01:37:10 it would be kind of sick an old yeah Tacoma or Hillix or something would be neat I don't need it to be nice in a lot of ways I'd probably prefer it wasn't because like I'm gonna get it scratched up and beat up and that's cool
Starting point is 01:37:27 I don't I don't yeah I don't need it to be nice My stepdad had a super cute little Toyota pickup back when I was growing up I don't know if it was this one but it was like a little tiny pickup truck like this. The actual name of it was the pickup,
Starting point is 01:37:45 like its model was pickup, which is pretty funny. Is that a thing? Because I think it might have looked like this. This is the Toyota pickup. Yeah, okay. All right, interesting. It's pretty sick.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Yeah, none of these other ones look right. This is, this is the one. He had the muffler tied on to the bottom of it with that. You know that yellow rope? Like that yellow rope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So he just had it like tie it.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Like, it fell off at some point. The, like, super plastic-y-y-y yellow, yeah, and he just tied it back on with yellow rope. So that was the kind of engineering that he did. Heck, yeah. Heck, yeah. All right. So, okay, but other than, other than, okay, so you don't like it because it is, it is disposable, essentially. But we buy it.
Starting point is 01:38:29 It's also disposable, like, it's, okay, it sounds like a long time that it lasts for two years because it's a non-rechargeable battery. So it's like, oh, wow, it does last for two years. That's cool. A device like this I would expect to have for more than two years. We buy a lot of things that last for less than two years that cost a lot of money. How long does the chicken in your fridge last? Not a good argument. And you know it.
Starting point is 01:39:01 No, but it's hard. It's tough with you because you don't buy chachis. You don't buy like gadgets that you know. no, you're not going to get a ton of use out of it. If someone expects to get one year out of this and they expect that they're going to buy a new one in a year because they want to keep up with the newest thing, whatever, it gets a little bit better. I would still prefer that wasn't a thing because you could, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:24 sell it off to somebody else who could still enjoy the thing without just throwing all of that value and that tech away. So I still don't like it because repairability is sick and cool and based. And you should be able to keep things. around. I know people that use some phones that are real old. The iPhone that I carry for float playing stuff is an X. It still works. Great. It's like actually very impressive that it's still totally fine. Its battery life is not that amazing anymore, but it's still impressively pretty all right. I'm not like on it that often because, you know, and it'll easily last
Starting point is 01:40:05 often days. Oh yeah, Apple's idle battery management is so good. It's so good. That's old. That would make this thing at its death point to look like a young pup. So like, I don't like that. And I don't think,
Starting point is 01:40:21 I don't think there's an argument that's going to convince me otherwise. One thing I would ask is how many smart rings have replaceable batteries? That I'm aware of none. Yeah, okay. But rechargeable, yes. but rechargeable yeah how do they charge is it wireless charging do they have a port so it's wireless charging how much bulk do you think the wireless charging adds so that was the argument for it was that for how low profile he wanted it to be basically as far as i can tell he's making a device for himself sure um and what he wants is when he's washing the dishes or otherwise indisposed he wants to be able to quickly note something down before his ADD brain uh forgets it does look
Starting point is 01:41:05 look like, so let me, I'm at their site, you can see this and that doesn't actually necessarily mean much because not on a finger, but when you see it on the finger, other than this bump, which is your button, I'm assuming. Yeah. It does look more profile to me as someone who has never worn a smart ring. It does look more low profile than smart rings that I've seen. You have worn a smart ring. It also doesn't look that low profile though. No, especially with the huge button, which looks a little uncomfortable to be honest. I hate rings in general, but like this looks rough. I would not want this.
Starting point is 01:41:42 You can even literally see the button itself pushing into his finger. Maybe. I actually can't tell 100%. Is it just a shadow? I can't tell 100%. I'm going to try it. I'm going to at least try it. I am torn on this one.
Starting point is 01:41:55 On the one hand, I completely agree. Reparability is based. Replacable batteries are based. It's like all rings with gems. So I don't agree with that. At so much of a lower price compared to other smart rings and still having a purpose that like him, I have ADD brain and often forget things and being able to just quickly blah, blah, blah, and then not take out my phone could have a benefit. At that point, though, you know, why not just wear one of those silly AI pendants? For me, the not thinking about it is a major feature, though.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Can you just do this with your smart watch? yes but it's another I forgot to put on my watch today okay are you going to remember to put on your smart ring no because I'm not going to take it off I'm going to put it on and then two years later its battery will die got it and so water
Starting point is 01:42:49 resistant then so that's the only compelling reason for it is that I never have to um I never have to think about if I have it on me and it can operate away from the app so and so you so it can store some on board and then when it gets back in range of your phone it can dump everything which is pretty so i could
Starting point is 01:43:16 be in the pool and i could have an interesting thought and i could be like blah blah blah blah blah and then it would sink to my phone later um it's kind of neat yeah it's kind of neat and at 75 which is more money than a meal but not more money than a meal out with my family I don't know man we buy a lot of stuff that is pretty disposable and pretty useless like I did an AMD ultimate tech upgrade for someone earlier this week where once again we have a not so much once again but we have a new challenger for lmg king of the funco pops oh um and i'm looking at it going like fun co it's all relative nice it's all relative right like if you're the kind of person who just doesn't spend money on anything
Starting point is 01:44:12 that doesn't generate a return you know like if you if you have like a very very kind of strict approach to spending to be clear he's not even referencing me i do spend money on things that don't generate a return yeah no i just mean i just mean in general like if you have sort of rules for spending money that do not account for $75 for a thing that is disposable. I don't actually agree. I think you could argue that this could generate a return. Sure. I just mean whatever your rules are.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Sure. You know, if you don't account for $75 for a disposable thing, then, you know, that's, that's, yeah, that's totally valid. But maybe I could, I just, philosophically, I disagree, though. Right? Like, I, I disagree with, you know. non-replaceable battery. Yeah. But then I also wonder, I mean,
Starting point is 01:45:00 AirPods have non-replaceable batteries and people have found ways to do it. So maybe there could be a way to do it. I haven't tried to take one apart yet. I don't know if it could be possible. Kind of doubt it. It uses a hearing aid battery, apparently. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Sent some trauma. It's okay, buddy. I actually have no idea what you're saying that about. You're okay, though. Yeah. Yeah, so it's fine. It doesn't matter. Yeah, nice. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:31 This was wild. Over the Black Friday period. Okay? The console sales war. No, no, don't look. Don't look. Oh, he's seen it already. I think I have.
Starting point is 01:45:42 So, number one. Switch? PlayStation. Yeah, okay. Number two. Switch. You better believe it. Nintendo.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Number three. A big gap. And then? uh right so i'm gonna say i know the spoiler here but i'm gonna say the one that makes sense yeah you'd think it would be xbox it was not it was not the next playground what i never even i was i was this week years old when i even heard of this thing over the thanksgiving weekend the xbox series series accounted for just
Starting point is 01:46:26 10% of console units sold coming behind the PlayStation 5 which came in first in part because it was the only console that actually had a sale so with 47%
Starting point is 01:46:40 the Switch 2 in second place which accounted for 24% of all console units sold and the next playground which was responsible for 14% of sales and is a console that, and this is from Mr. David Gautier,
Starting point is 01:46:57 who he would describe as like a $200 Microsoft Connect that plays mobile games with a 90-year subscription. $90 a year subscription. $90 a year subscription if you want to play more than five games. I'm sorry, I'm going to try that one more time. That I would describe like a $200 Microsoft Connect that plays mobile games and requires a $90 a year subscription
Starting point is 01:47:20 if you want to play more than five games. games. What? Okay, what is this thing? Obviously, we've sourced one and we want to make a video about it, but that's it. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:47:37 The next playground crashed the Black Friday hardware charts in the US. Okay, what? Like, what is this thing? I don't get it, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I didn't look enough into this. I knew the like punchline of this article. The active play system for kids and families. Like did it get bundled with something like crazy or did something happen? Active games that turn your living. I mean, basically it's the Wii then. Yeah, you just don't have remotes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:14 It's a Wii, but they went for the Connect model instead of the remote phone. When did the Verge review this? December 12th, 2025. Oh, so no, this is today. so they're probably reacting to this probably what happened I've never even seen this before did it get bundled with something
Starting point is 01:48:32 why are people buying this does anyone in chat own one of these what compelled you to get it was a how did you even know it existed how to train your dragon riders of the skies bluey bust a move whoa who's behind this company
Starting point is 01:48:47 Playpass unlocks the full catalog and delivers new content and updates automatically every month. So how much is PlayPass? It was $90 a year? Wait. Oh, man, just show me a price, brother. What?
Starting point is 01:49:04 No, get the... Show me a price for the subscription. Learn about PlayPass. Okay, that's what I clicked. Where is the price? Yeah, here we go. Yeah, 12 months. Yeah, $90 US a year.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Or about... Oh, what does that work out? like $50 every three months. So like $15 a month or $17 a month or something like that. Love this for my active little kids. Keeps them moving and so many games to choose from. My 60-year-old dad even plays with them.
Starting point is 01:49:34 This is wild. Yeah, it's new Wii. It's someone who figured out that... People actually really liked the Wii. Yeah. And that everyone forgot why everybody liked the Wii. We teamed up with the top family brands. Hasbro, Mattel, whatever this is. Paramount, Sesame Street.
Starting point is 01:49:52 this is this is wild dude like who are these people i started looking into it it seems like a new company go figure has investments from some tech people in sports giants and stuff but uh it's some split off from places like apple but yeah it seems like a new company that's wild to be able to jump in and just dunk on xbox like that with xbox's basically own thing is nuts Imagine making a successful thing based off of what is effectively a connect and it not being Microsoft. One of the greatest game console industry failures of all time. Let's not call it successful yet. I mean, that's fair, but they're outselling Xbox.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Yeah. And it's a subscription model, so you know they're doing good. Well, they're outselling Xbox for Black Friday, I should say. Not overall, necessarily. We don't know. Don Cab ESA says, The Connect, it sold 25 million units. It says the Connect was not a failure at all.
Starting point is 01:51:03 The Connect was the beginning of the end for the Xbox brand according to their current trajectory right now. It was bundled, my brother. It was an attempt to change the paradigm of the Xbox to this, like, living room, do everything machine like apparently this thing they had huge plans for the connect what it ended up being
Starting point is 01:51:27 which was a weird accessory that you could play some dance games with and a handful of experiences and then kind of a cool camera that people could you know hack and do neat stuff with later what it ultimately ended up being was nothing compared to what Microsoft
Starting point is 01:51:44 had planned for it they Microsoft tacitly admitted failure of the connect when they stopped bundling it with the console was supposed to be an integral part of the Xbox and then after what was it a year can't remember what it was they were like... I don't know
Starting point is 01:52:00 well this isn't working forget it just get rid of it entirely the connect was a failure Maladrax in full point in chat said the next had a big in store display you could play in stores in the US we played one for a few minutes so yeah they just did direct
Starting point is 01:52:17 like in store marketing effectively and people probably went up and started playing with it and was like, wow, that feels like the Wii again, I would like to take one of those please and then bought it. How much is it again?
Starting point is 01:52:30 I actually missed that when I was. 200 bucks. Introductory price of 200 bucks. $200. I wonder what kind of hardware is in it. I mean, we're sourcing one, so we'll answer these questions as best we can. LPDDR4X, 64 gigs of EMMC storage.
Starting point is 01:52:48 The graphics are a, Male G52 MC4? Okay. He's reading the Wikipedia page. Eight core arm chip. Arm taking over the world, boys. Yep. Oh, good luck, Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Wild. Oh, yeah. Our discussion question here is with the rumors being that... Mallie. Sorry? I said mail, but apparently it's... Oh, Mallie, yeah. It's...
Starting point is 01:53:20 it's a typo on on wikipedia then m a i oh wow yeah your dyslexia did not do that to you well do you know why it's because i read it like six times i'm not even kidding that's why i was so confident to be like actually no it's male yeah there you go so if it's actually mallee someone can go do a successful edit there if they want yeah nice let's go um so would you rather have okay hold on our question was um yeah if the rumors of microsoft's next machine being like a thousand dollar plus pc like machine are true what does xbox even mean anymore i think it means failure yeah i mean i guess it's uh the xbox live stuff game pass yeah which i understand it has like pretty good value i don't want anything to do
Starting point is 01:54:22 with it at all and i we were an xbox household oh yeah totally hard yeah and i am from the o g gone from there all right we would we would collect like broken 360s and try to zombie them in together into working ones and all this like we were we were in and i i want nothing to do with it anymore, which is like sad. It's not that I'm not even vindictive. They just lost. Okay. And I'm not, I don't love services like that, especially for things like games.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I would prefer to own my games. So I'm going to keep patronizing steam and GOG. Came across this tweet this week. Senator Ruben Gallego has introduced Senate legislation to outlaw surveillance pricing. This video is actually a little. bit older, but it features the one and only the bassist of bass people. Former FTC chair, Lena Kahn, who explains the dangers of this shady practice. As usual, something that everyone needs to understand and be vigilant about has the least sexy, least interesting name possible.
Starting point is 01:55:38 But we're going to tell you guys about it anyway. I'd actually never heard the term surveillance pricing before, but there's renewed interest in it because the state of New York recently cracked down on it. So examples used of surveillance pricing by the video that Ms. Khan pretty
Starting point is 01:55:57 competently hosted, actually, as a video host myself. I think she did a pretty good job. Nice. So, Princeton Review, she gave this example, charged customers in zip codes with higher percentage Asian populations
Starting point is 01:56:12 more for test prep services. Okay, other tests found or suggested that ride-share apps may charge riders with lower battery life more for the same ride at the same time. San Francisco residents who booked hotels through Expedia were apparently charged up to $500 more per night. than people buying the same from less affluent cities, and apparently some internet providers charged the same price
Starting point is 01:56:51 for worse internet speeds in poorer neighborhoods. These are, we've looked into it, and there is evidence to suggest this is happening slash we have confirmed it now. So surveillance pricing, the concept is that by harvesting your personal data or inferring things, about you. Companies can charge you more for the same services. Some hypothetical examples of surveillance pricing that we might want to be worried about are a parent with a sick child,
Starting point is 01:57:25 might be charged more for medicine, or a thermometer, or somebody needing to travel for a funeral. Could be charged more for their airfare because they're being surveilled, and they know that you've received an email about funeral arrangements, for instance. So good on New York for doing something to kind of crack down on this but what is really needed is nationwide slash more worldwide how about just you know in general we just not do this legislation that makes this just illegal um i know that there is it's a common sort of talking point that regulation is bad and there are many cases where regulation can be bad but if we just allow the free market to regulate itself, I think it has proven, not just
Starting point is 01:58:19 suggested, but proven that it cannot do it. The free market is not capable. People think it can. Yeah. They actually, with a straight face, say that and it's like actually stupid. It's regulate itself towards what is the problem. And that's exactly it. That's what they will do, which often brings you down to monopolistic practices or like there's a term for it, I don't remember it, but when it's an effective monopoly where everyone's price fixing on the same kind of level
Starting point is 01:58:53 and something that people don't seem to necessarily understand is that you can't do this based on like a restaurant model or something like that where it's like, oh, you're pricing for your burger is too high, I will go down the street. There are issues with that. when you get into some of these deep modes
Starting point is 01:59:13 where you might need hundreds of thousands, millions, billions of dollars to get into certain industries, it's like, yeah, no, you need to do something about that. Saunders SC, Sonders SC, Sonders SAC, says, is this any different than when eBay offers a discount when you look at something or place it in your cart?
Starting point is 01:59:35 Yes, the difference is that we're not talking about a discount. we are talking about increasing the price based on information about you. So it is one thing if, you know, because you know, come back to how it would work in the real world. In the real world, I could have my stall at the bazaar and you could walk in and you could, you know, be with Emma and you could look at a necklace. And I could say, oh, pretty lady, buy a pretty necklace for the pretty lady, sir, sir. oh look how good it looks on her oh and he goes to leave and I go I give you five dollars off
Starting point is 02:00:14 you know that's one thing but it is an entirely separate practice if I have no price tags on anything and I have like my my team of hooligans who go out and pick people's wallets
Starting point is 02:00:30 and see how much money's in them and then put it back in and then I know when they walk in the store I go ah sir affluent sir Oh, this is good. This necklace, $200. You wouldn't want to be seen as cheap in front of the pretty lady.
Starting point is 02:00:47 You know, it's a completely different way scummier thing. I like Bizarre Linus. Thank you. Bizarre Linus is pretty great. Yeah. And I mean, they're doing it based off of things that will probably offend people more than how much money they have in their wallet as well. like that example of the
Starting point is 02:01:09 tutoring or study prep or whatever it was being more expensive in Asian neighborhoods like they are they are doing this based off of any data point they can possibly get and they will get those data points yeah and they're going to have more and more and more as we go I mean this is this is one of the things that I you know couldn't necessarily have seen coming
Starting point is 02:01:29 back when I back when we were talking about the genetic testing like the example that I always came up with is like it could affect your it could affect your insurance premiums and stuff like that but this is one that absolutely could be impacted by your your predisposition for things for sure like you could have a completely different pricing model for potentially like this could potentially be a thing we could we could figure out the human genome enough that you could have a different pricing model for people that you have scouted out and figured out that they have a predisposition to gambling for instance and you wouldn't even need to do that with the okay maybe the the DNA testing is a bad example of that but what you could do is you could give someone inflated pricing for things that you know that they could be predisposed to have a condition for like it's this whole thing is just terrifying uh i mean uh i don't know but i'm looking up like pub med articles talking about genetic influences on gambling,
Starting point is 02:02:36 it seems to be like relatively figured out that there is definitely genetic influences on addiction. Apparently there's genetic influences on your predisposition to cheating in relationships. Like there is, I'm not going to go as far as to say free will is not a thing, but like... There's a lot of influences coming from a lot of places. Are we just a bucket of chemicals and electrical impulses?
Starting point is 02:03:00 Is that all I am to you? There is definitely a lot of that chemical stuff going on. Yeah. I think you've, yeah, I don't know. I think you've got some agency, but I do think there's a lot of influences all the time from various things. And it might not be very clear where those influences are coming from. And it can be extremely difficult to resist them. Agnog and April says, there's a genetic predisposition on your mom.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Nice. Based comeback. Okay, moving on with, let's get far away from things we do. deeply don't understand. Okay. Noctua and Prusa Research have introduced 3D printing filaments in signature noctua colors. Heck yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Oh, for crying out loud. All right. I saw the photo for this, thought it was fake. That's all I have to say about that. Heck yeah. Now you two can print in brown. McDonald's removes AI generated ad after backlash. This is an amazing story.
Starting point is 02:04:01 McDonald's in the Netherlands put out a festive, oh, you can call it festive, I guess, AI generated holiday ad calling Christmas the most terrible time of the year, which they elaborated on in a statement that it was meant to highlight the stressful moments during Christmas in the Netherlands. The ad features a compilation of unrealistic Christmas events going wrong, like opening your tree in the branches flinging you out of your front window, or Santa and his reindeer causing a traffic jam. Their solution? wait till January in a McDonald's.
Starting point is 02:04:35 The online criticism mostly regarded the use of AI slop replacing genuine human work. Melanie Bridge, the CEO of the studio behind the ad, however, clapped back and said, it's about expanding the toolbox, the vision, the taste, the leadership, that will always be human. And further defended their ad, claiming the hours that went into this job far exceeded a traditional shoot why then why uh 10 people five weeks full time discussion question is the is ai the solution to accomplishing shoots like this with limited resources if the a i shots didn't include people would that make it more acceptable okay so first up five weeks full time would not be nearly enough to do that shoot with people because what about all the extras like what about all of the human
Starting point is 02:05:27 actors like never mind the editors and storyboarders and director and camera operators like 10 people five weeks full time yeah i know still 10 people five weeks full time bullshit okay yeah sure i i thought you were saying there was five weeks full time of total hours put in oh no no no sorry 10 times that no like with every with all the logistics involved with that many shots i can tell you as someone who does video things there's no way that they could make that exact commercial uh like there there would have had to be like CGI work like no there's no way absolutely freaking no way well they're not saying making that exact video they're saying making a 44 second mcdonald's ad uh sure but like no like that was specifically their point okay
Starting point is 02:06:15 i'm not trying to defend them i'm just saying they weren't saying they they would make this exact far exceeded a traditional shoot Okay. So what's their, okay, so what's their defense then? That they paid more labor hours than they would have, but they got a better commercial. That they didn't use it to like cut the effort, I guess. Which like, what a whiff, if that's the case. Because what was the benefit? It doesn't look particularly good, in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I got to be honest with you. As far as like commercials go, I actually thought it was. It's kind of cute. Like, I, I, uh, I don't look at it and go, this, this commercial is so bad.
Starting point is 02:07:03 I couldn't watch it. There are definitely things that they did in this that are pretty normal for commercials like this, like the cookie talking in the oven. Yep. There's like for sure. Yeah. Campaigns that have had that. And that would be very expensive to do and definitely take more time, like you were saying.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Yep. Um, I don't know, man. I can also fully understand why people are mad about it. because there is definitely stuff that doesn't look professional. Like the way the cat jumps on the tree and the physics are completely wrong. Like it, yeah, it sucks. Am I just, am I, have I, am I just so, have I just given up to the point where I'm, I'm accepting this garbage? Is that what's happening?
Starting point is 02:07:56 There was, there was parts of this that was just so unnecessarily AI, which is strange. I'm wondering if the, the studio that did it is like an AI studio and they're shoehorning it into things. Because, like, there's, yeah, there's stuff here that, like, it's just so unnecessary. Like the cookie, okay, I can understand you, like, saving a bunch of time by having AI animate a talking cookie instead of doing it yourself. But, man, there's a lot of stuff that's just, why? If you just did it normally, it would have looked better and taken less time. Sick? Like, yeah, this is very weird.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Yeah, this is a tough one. It's very clear that this is going to happen. I am honestly surprised that McDonald's even pulled it down, though. Like, like, what? Coke did one last year, and then their new one, they did it again. they just didn't have humans in it which is like completely missing the point
Starting point is 02:09:00 and I don't think I don't, is anyone even mad about coax this year? I'm not sure Coca-Cola 2025 let's see Tim's got an interesting take I just don't care
Starting point is 02:09:17 it's an ad I'm never going to watch the ad anyway nice nice Okay, I mean, I think people might not like it that much One of the top comments on the video with 22,000 upvotes Is the most profitable commercial in Pepsi's history That's pretty good That's pretty good
Starting point is 02:09:40 But it's also pretty It also got 1.6 million views It's also pretty echo chambery Yeah, for sure Like there's a, it's been, it's been interesting you know, over the last, let's say, week or two, seeing how self-important some communities can think that they are and how influential they might think that they are.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Like, you know, you look at Reddit, for instance. Something can front page Reddit, you know, with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of upvotes. But what are the odds? Like, think about it. What are the odds if you went to the park by your house and talked to somebody there? That they didn't have any idea what the heck is going on? That they would have any idea about any of it.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Yeah, it's. Functionally zero. As someone who is, tries to not be, but is a little bit too chronically online, I have to remind myself of this sometimes. And I had a very recent conversation where someone was talking about how something is like such a hot button issue and you have to be careful about it. And I was like, I don't think so with practically anyone unless you. you are extremely chronically online.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Like a perfect example. I think most people have no idea what you're talking about. Like a perfect example of that would be like the Harry Potter thing. Yeah. Like if you're chronically online and especially if you exist within certain communities or counter communities. Yes. It's like.
Starting point is 02:11:06 It's like a major like like it's a culture war thing, right? But, you know, if I, if I, if one of the kids of one of my kids friends comes over and I'm like, oh, what do you think of Harry Potter? they're just like oh i love harry potter like they don't know about any of that i probably have no clue what's going on you know i talked to their parents uh like oh oh yeah i your kid says they like harry potter they're like oh yeah harry potter you know the lightning bolt thing you know with the scarf right like they don't they don't care they don't know they don't care yeah um there's other things going on they got they got they got other things to care about and it's uh it's interesting
Starting point is 02:11:43 yeah angry panda pc says but i am important and i agree i agree i agree i I agree you're important. Everyone's important, but not everyone is important to everyone else. Here's another weird thing. Even if you are chronically online, these days, it doesn't even necessarily matter that much because your feeds are so heavily algorithmic that you probably still are out of the loop on so many things. Because, like, I remember someone, there was a thread on Reddit recently about how YouTube
Starting point is 02:12:18 unlisted all of their rewines. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I remember being on YouTube back in the day. And like if there was something big happening on YouTube, as someone who went to YouTube, you would just know that. But now we were talking before the show. There was a creator in our space with over a million subscribers that neither of us had ever heard of.
Starting point is 02:12:43 Yeah. Because they made a type of content in our space that we just wouldn't happen to come across. Alyssa Jean Puppie says, if a person behind a franchise spends all her money on wanting to stop making me exist, I think boycotting is really the least you could do. My point, we're not saying anything about that. My point wasn't what people should or shouldn't do. My point was that they don't know. Yes, that is the only point. You can't care about something that you literally don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Yeah. And I think that we often live in echo chambers and in communities where the issues that are very important to us, like, oh man, like what would be, what would be. an example that would be like a really tech community like okay what percentage of people if you went to the mall right and you went and talked to somebody what percentage of people there would know that dDR memory is expensive yeah and the impact of that on the world of the ones who knew what percentage of them would be impacted like out of computer enthusiasm so you've got your you've got your total population right then you've got your like tech enthusiast bubble and then within that bubble you've got the people who are actually
Starting point is 02:13:48 shopping for a new computer right now who are actually spending money right now and then like that's it it's this it's this tiny little it's this tiny little fraction and um and so yeah there's people who are very mad who are following this whole AI thing and particularly you know generative AI video and and out of that the people who sort of care about the replacement of labor of the you know the the uh the cinematographers and the actors and the writers and all the people who would have otherwise worked on this uh and i think it's just like yeah you you could probably easily find what did that video what did that top comment have like 20 000 22 000 up votes yeah those 22 000 people they matter those are living breathing souls with blood coursing through their veins they're
Starting point is 02:14:40 also an incredibly tiny percentage of the global population uh alisa jean puppy hopefully said that right, said in Flooplane chat, okay, but J.K. Rowling is all over the news about that, at least in the UK, which is just another version she's not over here because she's not from over here. She's from
Starting point is 02:15:00 over there. And she's not trying to influence legislation over here. And we're aware because we're terminally online. Yeah. But in in, but you've got a geographical filter. We're not trying. Then you've got a keeps up with the news filter. Then you've got a cares about
Starting point is 02:15:16 this issue filter and then you've got to even remembers it filter there's just there's there's so many layers until you get down to what can be a very large number of people especially over the last like decent amount of years there's been a lot of difficulty going around and yeah people might be struggling to survive at all themselves and the issues that applied very directly to them is going to be what's important to them when that is when they're fighting for survival all the time they have to deal with their own problems right they have to put their mask on first and it's it's tough but like catoesque asks so then do people outside the u.s think Elon Musk is great then a lot of people think Elon Musk is pretty great that's the whole point we're trying to make
Starting point is 02:16:08 don't care at all or just don't care at all yeah Yes. The answer is yes. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. There's a incredible amount of people in the world that don't even know who he is. Yes. That's a thing. I know. It seems crazy, right? In our tech sphere, right? How could anyone in the tech sphere not have heard of the techno king as he self-proclaimed himself to be a number of years back, right? In D-26, he said there are idiots through the whole world. We're not saying there. idiots. No. That's not what we're saying at all. Some of them might be. The fact is that education is a problem? No. No, that's not what we're saying at all. We're saying that there's a whole wide world out there with many, many, many interests and many, many priorities, and not everybody shares them. And in this
Starting point is 02:17:05 algorithmically curated world that we live in, you might literally just never see it. And we may, And that is, in a lot of ways, by design on the platforms. Like, what percentage of subreddits that exist do you imagine you've been personally exposed to? Like, dude, I've been kind of hooked on R slash all over the last week. I try not to get two into the Reddit black hole. R slash what? All. Oh.
Starting point is 02:17:32 Just like, just like, and it's just like, it is realistically like a handful. Am I the asshole? PCMR shows up there every once in a while comics shows up a fair bit it's probably over the span of a week several dozen subredits that contribute to the majority of the vastly
Starting point is 02:17:59 uploaded or upvoted content on the site but there are what is it up to tens of thousands hundreds of thousands Are we at millions of subreddits? How many subredits are there? 3.8 million. What percentage of them?
Starting point is 02:18:20 As of 11 months ago. 3.8 million as of 11 months ago. So, and yeah, Len, oh, whoa, whoa, however I pronounce this in Floplane chat, says, y'all just got to ignore this stuff. I never get to see it, and I'm so happy I don't have to. My feed is just cool stuff and DIY. lie. And that's also like it is a... And that's exactly our point. For people that are terminally online, it is somewhat surprising to hear that a ton of people have recognized that being constantly dialed into everything that is happening in the world and how the fact that the further
Starting point is 02:18:53 we move away from local news and we move closer to global news, like back in the day, you can have a newspaper that's talking about like the fair that's happening in town. So there isn't going to be all that much really horrible things because you're centralized to a smaller area. That was a different kind of bubble. It was a more geographical bubble. Yeah. When you're now looking at more global news and you look at the news that's going to float to the top, it's going to be the most rage baiting, crazy horrible things possible because that's what's going to get more views. So you're only going to get news about all of the most horrible possible things happening. And it's really bad in a lot of ways for your brain. That doesn't
Starting point is 02:19:30 mean that not being that dialed in is, for example, an education problem or an ignorance problem or being stupid. I mean, it's literally an ignorance problem, but maybe not a problem. It literally is ignorance. In a negative way. Yeah, it might be ignorance, but not necessarily an ignorance problem. To certain people, they don't want to be exposed to that pipeline of extreme constant negativity because it can be bad for you.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Or it's just, you know, they got other stuff going on. I-769-69-X says people should be informed. noble sentiment how many things do you not know about you're speaking english do you know everything that's happening in china right now i don't like i know hassan's billy-billy stream got turned off sure sure do you know like yeah do you i don't know there's there's so many layers to that and like your level of knowledge does not mean that everyone else's level of knowledge is inferior it's there are an incredible amount of things that i know know nothing about that I'm sure are incredibly important and I have no clue yeah and uh again like
Starting point is 02:20:39 we're not trying to argue that that's the way it should be that ain't the argument we're just pointing out that that is how it is not everyone cares about AI or AI slop or yeah dude the The amount of people that are just totally ignoring and don't care about that at all is very high. And the number of people who are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. Also very high. Yes. And that is fact. Sorry?
Starting point is 02:21:15 Yeah. Am I going to have to do a shirt over this? Sorry AI is a thing? Like I... Oh, man. Because I'll do a shirt. I don't mind. I could do, trust me, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:32 AI is a thing. Hashtag. Ad block is piracy. Just we'll come by all the scandals. It's like, sorry, the things that you do know are probably less important than the myriads of things that you don't. Ooh. Wow, that's a. Okay, in other news, what the heck is this?
Starting point is 02:21:58 Facebook and malware bites, okay? I recorded this on my computer. Okay, I, um, here we go. So I got my, my OBS interface here, there we go. I got this email from Facebook, okay? And I was a little irritated. Wow, this quality, though. This is really blurry.
Starting point is 02:22:20 One moment, please. Seriously? It's actually not just my eyes this time. There we go. Okay, okay. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. So I was told that a post from 2015 was flagged for copyright infringement. Okay, so I clicked through and I made my way over to our... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:22:39 Hold on. Okay, let's get the story right. So I got an email from Facebook asking me about some feature. And I was trying to figure out how to turn off emails from Facebook about all their page management nonsense. there was no unsubscribe there was no because I don't want to block every email because occasionally because it's for the page manager email like occasionally they might send me something about my payment method being wrong or something so I can't just block emails from Facebook so I'm like okay there's no way to unsubscribe to this there's there's no link
Starting point is 02:23:11 to the interface where I can where I can change my contact my contact settings so I clicked through to my Facebook page to try to figure out where the heck in the interface I was supposed to disable this stupid email notifying me of some stupid feature that I don't care about. The first thing that came up was that I had a copyright claim against a post from 10 years ago. Okay, so here we go. All right, so let's watch this. Here's what happens so far. No one else can see your post because it was reported for copyright.
Starting point is 02:23:47 Okay, so here are my options. Oh yeah, I went back to the beginning. No one else can see your post because it was reported for copyright infringement. This is the post. Lifetime Malwarebytes for $20 on Amazon U.S. Go, go, go, and it's a link to a tweet. Okay, I don't see how that could infringe on anyone's copyright. That actually sounds awesome.
Starting point is 02:24:08 I kind of wish I did that. Ten years ago, who cares? So I click it, I'm like, okay, so it's a link to an Amazon search for malware bytes. Yeah. Okay, so I click continue. you who could possibly care about this. Malwarebytes corporate holdco or their authorized representative managed to find a post from 10 years ago. Well, they crawled it.
Starting point is 02:24:31 Well, right, but why? Who cares? And also, what are you talking about? How does it infringe your copyright? Okay, so anyway, we don't allow content that whatever. So I can accept the decision. I can submit an appeal or I can contact Malwarebytes corporate holdco. I think I'm about to docks Malwarebytes corporate hold co
Starting point is 02:24:49 So yeah, there's their email address and phone number anyway Submit an appeal Nothing happens Go to form, go to form, go to form, hello? It doesn't open another window Nothing, it doesn't do anything else Go to form Strategic bugs, I like it
Starting point is 02:25:10 What the heck is this? What is going on right now? so here's the email from Facebook how do I start a fan challenge blah blah blah blah blah blah no unsubscribe I'm fairly certain that this email is illegal in Canada like what is it what is it can spam again there is no I have not opted into this I went into my Facebook notification settings later
Starting point is 02:25:37 actually yeah I think it was after I turned off the screen recording I have everything that I can find turned off and they sent me this bullshit from a stupid like malware bites claiming copyright infringement that I can't appeal I don't even care
Starting point is 02:25:54 I don't need a 10 year old post on Facebook it's just how is this so broken no I'm not getting fished it goes it goes to actual Facebook what the heck that's all that's all I have to say about that I was just I was in between rounds
Starting point is 02:26:09 at my badminton ladder going through my email like I was like, what is this? I don't know how to deal with this right now. That's very annoying. What I do know how to deal with is a big shout out to the LTT Forum folding team.
Starting point is 02:26:25 We had a record-breaking event, folding month 8. In total, the team produced over 230 billion points. That's nearly three times last year's total. We had 369 participants, nice. And user Stobin demolished the previous record of six billion points. and earned 112 billion points. I don't know exactly what that means.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Oh, the previous record was six, and it was 112. Wow. Special thanks to live in, Mr. Chukotay. Yeah, pancreas. Yeah. Sula mate, jaw wood juice, brick cider, dog witch, and an anonymous forum member for donating a total of 55 prizes to the event. Additionally, 20 participants will be walking away with a $100 LTT store gift card.
Starting point is 02:27:10 Justin Miller, a scientist from the Bowman Lab at the University. Pennsylvania, was very impressed by the total simulation time that the LTT, or that folding at home contributed of 8.6 milliseconds during November. He said, that sounds like a small amount of time, but that is a ton for the types of motions that we like to study, and roughly two to three orders of magnitude more than most simulation-focused papers tend to have on their own. Nice. So massive thank you to everyone who participated.
Starting point is 02:27:37 The final rankings and Justin's complete summary can be found in the final blog at But, well, this link. Dan, do you want to throw the link in the various chats? But basically here. That's awesome. Yeah, super cool. Heck yeah, folding month. And I think we've got just one more topic before we get to After Dark.
Starting point is 02:27:58 The world's first flying car. Here it is. Well, it's a flying car. The world's first flying car is now being handmade in California. And this right here. see all the dust and see all like the air being blown up is exactly why i think i'm convinced that this is um pardon the pun never going to take off yeah i mean that's just it's been it's been the argument you know a left aeronautics a u.s startup has started building its electric flying car
Starting point is 02:28:30 the model a by hand in california becoming the first company to put a drive and fly car into production. The flying car can drive on regular roads and can take off vertically to fly with around a 220 mile driving and 110 mile flying range. Apparently, the startup has already received 3,500 pre-orders, which is a lot, considering that the flying car is expected to start at around $300,000. But there are a couple of small problems that are not included in our notes that are kind of hilarious. As cool as it would be to dunk on the cyber truck
Starting point is 02:29:11 by literally flying over it. It looks so sketchy. Have you watched this? Yes, I have. I just watched it. It looks so sketchy. Then the wheels are so thin. It's like, oh man.
Starting point is 02:29:30 I feel like they just put like a, like a fiberglass frame on a, like, high carrying capacity drone. A detail that was overlooked is that at this time, it can only take off from and land at airports. So, like, what is the fucking point of it? The whole idea behind flying car, like the whole connotation of car is that you park it at your house
Starting point is 02:30:03 and you, like, drive it to work, or you go get groceries and you like park at your house again. You can drive to the airport and then and then not like have to get out and get into a plane. You can drive to the airport and then just take off from the airport. That sounds pretty great. You can drive 220 miles with a 110 mile flight range. Wow. So it's only half the, that's actually.
Starting point is 02:30:29 That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Less than a year. Um. I haven't seen. seen it drive? Have you seen it drive? Is there a video of it driving? I've only seen it somewhat sketchily fly. I don't think I've seen it drive. As soon as I found out that it's slow, has crappy range, is expensive, has all the issues of any other personal flying vehicles,
Starting point is 02:30:56 with the big one being, I forget what it's called washout or something like that. Basically, the displacement of air that they need is so big. and the propellers that they can accommodate for any kind of V-Tol functionality are so small that they have this tiny cone that basically blows away anything anywhere near them. Like, there is, with the laws of physics being what they are, as far as I can tell, no reasonable path to driving one of these from your front driveway to your parking lot at work. they would blow so much crap around on the parking lot
Starting point is 02:31:37 that you'd be denting and scratching everyone's car that you're anywhere near, people would hate it, they're so loud much larger propellers can help with the high-pitched noise and all of that but you still have to deal with all that air displacement in order to lift this like hundreds of pounds vehicle plus whatever people and cargo that you want to carry in it like it's just it's just not
Starting point is 02:32:03 going to happen or you could buy a really nice really sweet car to drive to the airport and then get in your own just like experimental craft that thing looks pretty sick what's the side impact crash rating
Starting point is 02:32:20 on this flying car for sure just nothing the crumples over is you like come on you are expected to crumple alone with the car yeah she's going to the impact. It's just going to hit the batteries. Yeah, sure. Like, come on. Oh, very fun. Very cool. Very good. Looks cool. They go out of their way, it seems, to make it really hard to see how skinny chicken these tires are. Dude, they're so narrow.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Oh, man. Yeah, you can see them there. Yeah. They look like wheelbarrow tires. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh Yeah So this is Damn dude Yeah this is You said they got pre-orders Apparently
Starting point is 02:33:09 That's the craziest part to me That's what it says in the nose I mean working on this is cool I actually have no issue with that at all Okay so we just Had a huge long conversation With the audience about ignorance Remember
Starting point is 02:33:20 Not everybody is an engineer And a lot of people would think Oh well You know they got I forget what body they got approval from but they like are making progress
Starting point is 02:33:33 to this being a product that they actually ship and so if I heard that they got their airworthiness certification from the FAA they got an airworthiness certification
Starting point is 02:33:45 that's huge that's huge right so I'd be like oh yeah flying car I see this picture I go I mean what you have 300 grand I mean that's that's only
Starting point is 02:33:56 that's only 10 times the price of a car that doesn't fly right They had so many more degrees of freedom. That's so good. Honestly, if they just never released this video, I feel like they'd do better. Well, they've been doing pretty good up till now.
Starting point is 02:34:12 They got their pre-orders. And yeah, not everybody's an engineer. So, yeah, I could see people pre-ordering it if they just don't do the math. Like, it wasn't until, for me, too, that I came across, like, a really good article. I wish I could find it so that I could bring it up. I read it, and then I, like, kind of lost it, and then I never saw it. again. But it was a really good article that basically kind of walked me through the math of how this is just like kind of fucking impossible. And they're like, at the end of it,
Starting point is 02:34:39 they're like, look, don't short it because, you know, you can't stay, they'll stay irrational longer than you'll stay solvent or whatever. Like I'm not saying you should like short these companies and try and make a bunch of money on their downfall or whatever. I'm just saying don't invest in them. Don't pre-order this stuff because this ain't happening. This is not I'm like oh okay bummer because that would be awesome like I'd be so down I hope that you know they got their their flightworthiness thing whatever I hope that it ends up being awesome because like why not yeah just that video wasn't awesome does not make it look good but hey I mean all power to them good luck oh cool hilarious that fun is that it after that
Starting point is 02:35:30 Dark. I think it's time for After Dark. Nice. Mr. Daniel Besser, hit us. Let me just get the banner and the button. Oh, yeah. Not financial advice. Just throwing that out there. I always got to throw that out there. Okay, let's see what we've got today. Hey, dudes. Aside from YouTube, which single company's sudden shutdown would have the most immediate detrimental impact on LMG, which would be the most beneficial?
Starting point is 02:35:55 A beneficial shutdown. I don't know if there's anyone. We're all about partnerships. I don't think there's anyone that I would look at and go, yeah, them shutting down would be highly beneficial to us. It would be beneficial. I usually see the like... The competitor maybe, but I don't really see us as having competitors in a traditional sense. I usually see, especially the space we're in, not all spaces, but the space we're in as rising tide lifts all ships.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Yeah, me too. I think the more people that are interested in tech will help all of us. and if other people in the tech space are making good content, I think that will help us not hurt us. I've always seen it that way. I mean, this is really interesting. So the timing of the release of that interview that I did with John, I was talking in the interview about how our viewership has kind of struggled lately, right?
Starting point is 02:36:49 But I did that interview a couple of months ago. And so that obviously there's a ton of comments on the interview, with people giving me their brilliant ideas for what I can do to fix my channel or how talking about how, you know, yeah, it's all because, you know, Alex and Andy are gone or whatever the case may be, right? But what people don't bother to do is check and see if there's any truth whatsoever to their hypothesis. And to be clear, I'm not saying that, you know, I wouldn't, that I don't love.
Starting point is 02:37:26 working with Alex and Andy or whatever but we've actually had a nice little resurgence lately and we are back to the kinds of numbers that we were doing you know earlier this year slash you know before the recent dip like in fact we're quite a bit higher than that now we're tracking to do probably more like 80 million views for December it looks like so that's back up at a level that's sort of closer to sort of November of last year like there tends to be kind of there's a season to it to a degree. Yes.
Starting point is 02:37:58 Right? So we are higher than probably in the next month. We'll be higher than probably about eyeballing this 70% of the months of the past like 18. So thank you for your advice and your analysis of, you know, YLMG is failing or whatever the case may be. But we're not failing. And a big part of why we don't fail is we are. constantly looking inward, looking outward, figuring out what it is that we need to do differently. How can we generate excitement? How can we elevate our content? How can we
Starting point is 02:38:37 optimize our processes? And the answers are always going to be different in an ever-changing world that is competitive, even if I don't see other YouTubers or other media outlets as competitors. Does that make sense? Yeah. And we've had great people leave. And we will have great people leave and we will have great people join yes and then leave are a business in constant flux just like every single other business and we will have different eras because there will be different people here at different times and like taylor swift i may do a tour about my eras you might you might probably not and this is all extremely normal um yep and that's okay normal thing that is happening right now and and you know what's another normal thing for there to be
Starting point is 02:39:34 times of unusual strife yeah that's also normal even if it is abnormal and so there will be times of abnormality there will be future times when you know what we might hire a lot there will be future times when we might have a lot of turnover there will be future times when our content is not performing well and there will be future times when our content is performing really well and and all of that is just part of the natural ebbs and flows of of running a business in a in a fast fast fast changing world maybe steam will release or valve will release a bunch of hardware all at once yeah that was that was what a christmas present that was for us you know it was it was encouraging right you know because it's not like i totally it's not like i'm immune to you know feeling a
Starting point is 02:40:25 of confidence sometimes, right? Like, you know, I see the content not performing. I go, like, do I even got this anymore? You know, like, I'm always asking myself that. And then someone does me the, like, bare minimumest favor of releasing some hardware that's interesting. And we get, like, what, 4 million views on one of them and like four and a half on the other, three and a half and four and a half. Yeah, it's 3.8 and 4.8 right now.
Starting point is 02:40:49 Yeah, something like that. And I'm just like, oh, okay, no, no, I still do know how to do this. I did those videos in like two hours each. Just the steam machine won't cost what you think got 2.6. Yeah. Like, it was a good video. It's just cool, interesting stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:05 Yeah. No, I think, not just I. I think we've still got it. I do think that we have, I mean, you guys were even talking about this before the video, before we started WAN shows, just like looking at some of the process bloat and stuff. We have, yeah. We have problems. There's going to be.
Starting point is 02:41:22 there's going to need to be some work done on kind of addressing how things flow through the company and stuff. I think so. And it's just, you know, we've existed for so many years at this point. And we've kind of always just built. There hasn't really been a lot of removing things, cutting back on certain things, trying to see, hey, if we cut out a bunch of processes here, what happens? What would happen? Yeah. Because sometimes, like, there's process that was originally designed to help solve problems, which due to misuse or rot or improper initial creation actually just creates more problems. It creates more cycles for people that have to do, especially cycles that suck and they don't want to do ever. That is like absolutely a thing that happens. So, yeah, we have, we have things to address, but we're working on it.
Starting point is 02:42:22 that's normal especially as far as my understanding goes when companies get to around this size yeah like this ends up being a major problem yeah companies get around the hundred plus-ish size which is exactly where we're at everything changes yeah so this all makes sense and there will continue to be change um someone asked uh here we go capture the bomb asks speaking of ebbs and flows how's the badminton club doing i don't know you tell me here's a live feed Okay, yeah, it looks pretty good to me. Got some people playing some badminton all up in this booth. How embarrassing would it be to just Biff right now?
Starting point is 02:43:03 No, they'll be fine. They're solid players, actually. It's a good club. Yeah, no, it's, this is one of those ones where, like, it was a passion project that, like, you know, was never really, like, intended to make money. And it's still, it's still a little more complicated. then like yeah um you know yo i'm making money see so yo world i hope you're ready for me now gather
Starting point is 02:43:29 round yeah you know like it's not quite that right but it's i wish it was a little bit tall yeah yeah well that that yes but oh i honestly wasn't even meming that i just uh no no no well that's the different artist different song i was rap humpty dance like totally different thing yeah it's fine okay the point is that yeah we kind of accidentally we kind of accidentally a good sports facility that's actually doing really well like there's probably you were just accidentally a successful business yeah there's probably a solid like 60 people in there right now there's people in the concession uh there's some people hanging out in the lounge there's people in the retail shop is a concession like a thing yet uh-uh uh-huh but we do have
Starting point is 02:44:17 those cool like japanese style like Hot food vending machines. Yeah. Okay, cool. I mean, that's nice. Yeah, so smash champs will use them except when there's whale land. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Is there any progress on having an actual concession? No. Okay. Yeah, the managers feel extremely strongly that we need to have a steam room and a sauna. I'm really not sure that I agree that's that important, but we also want to put in some more showers. We only have a couple right now. showers I could see. We should add more.
Starting point is 02:44:52 I think that a steam room and sauna is a very optional thing for a badminton club, but I basically told them look, you're allowed to put it in as long as it doesn't cost any of our floor area. If you don't use up floor plate,
Starting point is 02:45:06 then if you can put them above the showers at the back or something like that, I'm open to it. But they pitched me like splitting up the gym and putting that at the back and putting the like sauna, steam room, shower stuff like upstairs. I was like, no.
Starting point is 02:45:18 No. We are not doing that. A gym is a way more relevant thing to a badminton club than that. I can see people wanting to do sauna. Doing sauna after physical activity is pretty sick. Sure. But yeah, if you just try to make it additive, if possible. Also, the concession will help money for sure.
Starting point is 02:45:40 Yes, no. Actually. People are constantly exercising? I heard that other clubs that have tried to do them, it's been break even at best. so we may be better off I think we get a pretty narrow margin on those vending machines but we may actually be better off
Starting point is 02:45:55 with the vending machines so TBD on website bump that interesting I do know as far as my understanding goes you usually have to make the concession like actually pretty good and that it ends up
Starting point is 02:46:09 also getting things like Uber Eats orders because there's it's actually very rare that you can get like actually pretty well like balanced meals on Uber Eats. So like,
Starting point is 02:46:21 Gold's Gym in Langley has like a, protein shake. Yeah, and also some like wraps and stuff, but they're like more protein heavy. They don't have high sugar counts and all the other kind of stuff. So like if you did like, oh, it's a badminton gym, so there's things that like, you know.
Starting point is 02:46:40 We could do a smash burger. I think that's pretty far from the point I was trying to make. But it's great for the branding. But it is great for the branding. It is absolutely. Like something, I mean, I would personally appreciate. I don't know if this is the right fit for Smash Chance Chance.
Starting point is 02:47:00 Probably not necessarily. But I think it maybe should be is if you had like a protein shake kind of thing and it had like five grams creatine, I think that would be sick. It's hard to get. Booster Juice does it. But there aren't that many other places that do. Interesting. So, like, I think there are ways to make it make sense,
Starting point is 02:47:20 but I think you have to kind of open up the interest in that where it's not necessarily just the badminton club that would be interested in it. Yeah, I'd be down for that. There would be... The thing is, like, you have to find someone to kind of spearhead that, right? And right now we're just, we're busy figuring out how to run a sports facility. We haven't even been open to the pub.
Starting point is 02:47:41 We haven't even been, we've been open a year, but we haven't been taking money for a year. So we've been, like, soft open, but our grand opening was less than a year ago. So we still have a lot of little things to figure out. Yeah, I realized, sorry, the numbers I was showing before didn't look like we were tracking up that much. But last 30 days, 85 million.
Starting point is 02:48:03 So that's actually like quite, quite up there with our top months over the last 18th, 75. It's like almost on par with like August 2024. So we're tracking back up. and we'll track back down. Yep. And that's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:48:20 We'll survive. We will survive. Oh, as long as I know how to take, I know we'll stay alive. Dan, hit me. Hello, my parasycial friends. Oh, hi there. I'm not a float plane subscriber because I already have two similar subscriptions, and my brain refuses to let me have another.
Starting point is 02:48:39 Do any of you have arbitrary rules like this? Oh, tons. I don't think that's arbitrary. I think limiting the number of subscriptions you have. is totally fair totally not arbitrary I mean the two I guess is an arbitrary number but I I think two is a pretty good number yeah seems pretty reasonable to me yeah seems pretty reasonable I really don't I probably have huh I think I have one I'm not even trying to flex no Netflix oh that's right you ditched a while back a long time ago
Starting point is 02:49:17 What do you have, then? YouTube premium. Oh, yeah, just YouTube premium. Yep, okay. My company got hacked last month through a zero-day exploit in Center Stack. Bummer. It looks like we paid the ransom for the encryption key. Have you guys known anyone who has paid?
Starting point is 02:49:37 What is the process? I haven't. I actually don't. Uh. Yeah, right. Yeah, good call. Who's there? Scammers.
Starting point is 02:49:52 Fuck you, man. Get out of here. No. I've been here for months. Yeah, sorry. I don't know anything about the process. Bummer. Sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 02:50:09 Okay. Hi, LLD. Linus, do you still daily drive a 7,900 XT, What's your take on where RDNA3 is headed after being missing in Wednesday's Redstone announcement? I mean, this is kind of classic AMD. I think for the most part they do their best
Starting point is 02:50:26 to support their older products, but they are a much smaller company than Nvidia. Still, even after all the success that they've had on the CPU and the APU side, I'm not surprised by it. The 7900 XT just does not have
Starting point is 02:50:42 the neural processing to do what they would want it to do with FSR Redstone. As far as I can tell, I'd love to be wrong, but it just doesn't really seem like it. And yes, I'm still daily driving it in my PC upstairs, but I've actually been doing more than half of my gaming on my PC downstairs, because that's like where my kids are usually sitting and Yvonne doesn't game. So I would either be sitting by myself upstairs, or if I was streaming, I would be upstairs, but I haven't streamed in like forever. So um yes it's still in my in my main machine but i haven't been gaming on it as my like primary card
Starting point is 02:51:22 for a little while i l d my partner and i are combining our skills to go into business together my question for linus is was there anything you should have discussed with avon before working together oh yeah i think something that we even to this day are not perfectly aligned on is where's the end point? What is the target we're trying to hit? And I think that having that agreement, especially if you're going into business with, it sounds like a romantic partner,
Starting point is 02:51:59 having that agreement in place is going to be critical to maintaining harmony in your relationship. Because if one of you has the goal of, you know, achieving a better work-life balance by running your own business and being able to set your own hours and one of you has the goal of
Starting point is 02:52:21 conquering the world and taking the business sphere by storm then it's going to be hard to agree when you've achieved success because you both have completely different goals and talk about that
Starting point is 02:52:41 Mary Mary, Mary, Linus, Luke and Dan Hey, Mary. Mary. Mary Pippin. Yeah. I like that. What about second Mary? What of the Rings is based? I'm looking to enter... Wow, I take there, Luke.
Starting point is 02:53:04 You know, I'm bringing those spicy ones. Yeah, you're really going to piss off a lot of the community with that one. No offense, but I thought that. the Lord of the Rings was pretty okay. I'm looking to introduce my mother to a new video game this holiday season. Any recommendations with good story
Starting point is 02:53:23 that would be easy to learn for the elderly. The elderly. Good story. I feel like games are getting harder, not easier. Stradi Valley Animal Crossing, and I'm not typecasting because it's grandma. Those are just, like Animal Crossing in particular, I know, was widely accepted by a non-gaming audience.
Starting point is 02:53:51 I think Starry Valley is also a potentially lower lift in regards to non-gaming audience. Outside of that, I think very, like, narrative, heavy games. If you try to think of the types of games where, like, people would enjoy chilling on the couch while you play because it's, like, fun. to watch and then you pair that with they're not mechanically overly difficult I suspect that would work pretty well Promortis' guitar hero
Starting point is 02:54:20 yeah how about not Ben Bob said Elder Scrolls daggerfall which is get out yeah not gonna go super well uh pegrat's a good suggestion telltale games
Starting point is 02:54:34 just a bunch of different telltale games are all probably decent if there's something in the telltale games universe that fits their fancy, then that might be a good way to go. I mean, there's Soma, you can turn the enemies off. Can you actually? Just turn them off? Yeah, yeah. That would be fun. The last one I have for you today is, Hi, LLD.
Starting point is 02:54:59 Is there any early stage or emerging tech you're particularly excited about? I mean, the emerging tech is like all robotics and AI, right? That's kind of the big one. AR glasses. Yeah, AR glasses are pretty cool. Oh, I don't know if the thing I tried today was embargoed, but it was cool. Neat. I am scared about the current direction of AR glasses, but I'm hoping that...
Starting point is 02:55:26 More AI? Well, yeah. And the people who are winning right now. But I'm hoping that, you know, as the... Yeah, it's like, actually kind of weird. What the heck? We didn't do the second set of. sponsors. Hold that thought.
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Starting point is 02:58:45 It's always while quantities last. We probably sold them all last week. Ah, got it. Okay. Like, I'm willing to bet. Yeah, because I just see 3D mark with this, which is definitely not Battlefield 6 and whatever the other games were. Like here, check this out.
Starting point is 02:59:02 I bet if I go to like a lesser-known retailer or something, they will probably have it. Yeah, see? So like Canada computers, gift code redemption. The promo is still running, but I talked about this last week. Is that a Canadian promo?
Starting point is 02:59:18 Because I'm looking at specifically the America. I don't know any America retailers that are not New Egg. So it'd be hard for me to check. But if they still had smaller retailers, then I pretty much guarantee that while supplies last, they would have stock of the promo because New Egg did run out of them and then they did restock them.
Starting point is 02:59:37 So they have a cost, right? Like, Intel has to buy more copies of these games. So they don't just run them forever. Yeah, that makes sense. And you know what else doesn't run forever? This show. That's a good guess. We'll see you again next week.
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