The WAN Show - Piracy Is Dangerous And Harmful - WAN Show October 10, 2025

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That was dangerous and harmful. Dangerous. Yeah, we can't have that. Yeah, you might have... You might store ISOs there. You wouldn't download a danger, would you? I have downloaded danger. You've downloaded danger.

I have objectively downloaded danger. How did you download my middle name? In other news, Microsoft has blocked more ways to set up a Windows 11 local account. Did they, Siri, do they have like a committee, an internal committee for how to make things less convenient, how to make Windows worse. Good committee quality committee. It feels like it's truly doing the Lord's work. In good news, Synology backpedals on banning

third party hard drives and in is there more good news somewhere? I told them there was a good show I told them it was a good show it is going to be a good show but is there more good news Microsoft promises more Xbox hardware still on the way do you care about that? I don't know sure let's go with that

that's the best I could get The show is brought to you today by Vessy, Proton, Squarespace, and Ubiquity, alongside, of course, our rap partner, Dbrand, our laptop partner, Dell, and our chair partner, Secret Lab. Dude, with the flip around the what? You did it out of order. Did I? Yeah. You even ever so slightly hiccooked. You don't even notice anymore, do you? You just auto-correct. That's fantastic.

What was the flip-around? You did the middle one, then the top one, then the bottom one. Did he not? I thought he just did that. Just over a week ago, Space Invader 1 had a video taken down from their channel for, and I quote, dangerous and harmful content. The video in question showed Ersatz TV, a program that lets you convert your Plex, MB, or Jellyfinn library into a live TV channel. Space Invader 1 states that they are sure to never include copyrighted content,

and in this case even used public domain films such as the brain, wouldn't die. Amazing. Since this takedown, they have requested an appeal with no further update on whether this was resolved. They did say the video is

still up on their Patreon for free in case you guys are interested in seeing it and supporting. Our discussion question here from the one and only, Elijah Horner, is it feels like we know what the real reason was

for this video being taken down, considering that we had our part two of DeGoogle Your Life taken down for showcasing an ad-free workaround for YouTube Would it be better if Google just told you the reasoning outright rather than saying dangerous and harmful or is there a reason for them to keep this vague?

There's definitely a reason. There's absolutely a reason. You never, if you want, whenever you're trying to moderate a social platform, you can't be too specific. about the rules because all that does i mean we saw this with twitch right twitch tries to try to implement some rules of what you couldn't do right you've got to be you've got to be you know at least within four inches of your chin for your neckline and so you'll have people at 3.9

inches or they'll get a chin extension you know injection so that they can wear a slightly lower shirt or whatever whatever like i know some person right uh uh wore really tight-fitting green clothes and then green screened the game onto the clothes. You couldn't actually see them wearing any clothes. So it gave the illusion that they were like people will find a way no matter what. There is as many examples of this as you want. This is with standard everyday law. This is with with rules on platforms, whatever.

So if you're vague and you're just like, you broke a rule bad, then it's harder for those people to try to gamify working around the rules. Right. So why don't we try to dig into why they care? I don't know who it was. Why they care about this? Because here's a funny thing. And I am probably about to get myself into trouble here because...

Nice. Let's go. Yeah. I mean, you know what? We're pretty deep into the show at this point. I think realistically, most people probably aren't watching anymore. Windows free Linus. Okay.

Here's this guy. Look at this hair. I mean, can you imagine being in your late 30s and doing this? What is this bracelet? Okay, the point is, it doesn't matter. Are you paying too much for Windows? He's wearing this, he's wearing this pirate hat. Free, free windows.

I think whoever dyed your hair there did a really good job. Quality, quality job. Yeah. That video was uploaded. I think a day after our warning for DeGoogle Your Life Part 2, expired because if we had uploaded something to do with piracy which

by the way Google just to let you know 100% agrees with me that ad block is piracy they're real they're real clear on that wow I wasn't sure about that one yeah well that was one of the big arguments for why it was wrong oh like back when I first said that like Google doesn't yeah they do they definitely do

they have the extension so they can stay competitive not because they like it So our video, how de-googling Your Life Part 2 was taken down because of specific instructions, which I don't even know if we got that deep into it, but basically talking about circumventing ads on YouTube. And the justification given to me was that it was because it was anything around breaking a digital lock was essentially, sorry, dangerous, harmful, can't have it on the platform. Really? So we waited 91 days, or whatever the number was, I don't remember, 92 days or something. Basically, we had this video done when D-Goo-Goo-Goo-E-Live Part 2 went up, but we held it until our, not a, it wasn't a strike, but until our warning expired so that we wouldn't accumulate two warnings because I think the third one, you're actually in serious trouble and you end up with like a strike or a channel suspension or something like that. Or maybe it's the second one.

Don't quote me on that details. the point is we didn't want two warnings we didn't even want one warning i don't know why i'm talking about this right now then so this video contains pretty specific instructions on how to obtain windows for free why doesn't youtube care so my theory at the time because we've we've talked about piracy lots. My theory at the time was the only reason that DeGoogle Your Life Part 2

ruffled their undergarments was that it was specifically around YouTube, around their platform. I can't figure out where this Ersatz TV thing falls into that, because I doubt it has anything to do with people wanting to broadcast YouTube.

I mean, the whole point of YouTube is that it's on demand. It's not like a like a, like a streaming service. And the kind of piracy that it seems like they are concerned about... I promise you there are auto-downloader scripts 4plex that scrape YouTube channels. Sure, but what would be the point of watching that?

It would be far more of a waste of your time to sit through a whole bunch of video from that channel that you don't want to watch in order to get to the one you want to watch versus just sitting through the ad on YouTube. Because this is for streaming. Oh. yeah so like there there's no real threat to youtube here the the main threat is probably more along the lines of enabling people who run like pirate video streaming subscription services like having a movie a Disney movie channel that you have you know people in your in your social circle you you advertise on Facebook marketplace or Craigslist or whatever it's totally a thing no I think this is downloading VODs for sure.

It says make your own live TV channel, but I think they would do that by downloading VODs and then mixing them into a live feed. So you're still downloading things from YouTube and then playing them somewhere else. But if you wanted to do that, then why wouldn't you just share your Plex library? Am I missing something here? Please tell me if I'm missing something here. They want to be based on YouTube videos. I don't think it's like, is there a better option or not necessarily.

I think at its core, they were downloading YouTube videos. and then having them play in effectively random order off of your own thing. Yeah, no, it's enjoy your own, build your own live TV channels. So it's like this with like programming. And it's like at a scheduled time. Yeah. But they're YouTube videos. They're not live streams.

Well, no. Your thing is a live stream, but what you're downloading is YouTube videos. So it still fits in the reason why you think our video is taken down because it shows you how to download YouTube videos. Okay, but I don't think he's, but he wasn't talking about YouTube videos. And I don't think that's what most people are using this for. Because like, why would you do that? Why would you want, why would you want this experience for YouTube videos? It would be just worse.

Even just look at their example. This is all traditional media. Like, this is not YouTube. This is not what I would think anyone would be doing with this. And I suspect that the people who are, trying to use this in any kind of commercial fashion are more trying to monetize this like live TV experience so given that it doesn't threaten YouTube zone content I'm just I'm a little surprised that they care I made a bad assumption that this had something to do at all with

YouTube no yeah I don't get it even slightly then no turning your Plex library into TV channels is is what Ersat's TV does if I had to if I okay this is this is pretty good from chat so maybe they got a cease and desist like maybe this was one of the more traditional content providers that basically went hey uh y'all need to remove this yeah maybe um but then again like you said he used stuff like the brain that wouldn't die yeah so you and like I also feels like he did this all above board and like I also said where's my takedown for this then yeah Yeah. So is it a... Look at this guy. How could you not? Look at that shifty-eyed motherfucker. Wouldn't you want to,

wouldn't you just automatically want to take his videos down? Yeah, right? This is weird. I just applied what happened to us to it and assumed... No. Oh, here's a fun one. This might not be good to bring attention here. Sorry, Lawn, but Lawn TV, a flipping guy.

actually has a video on my own streaming channel with Plex and Airsats TV four months ago it's still up it just feels like I and I look I know it's probably not targeted but it can't help but feel a little targeted when finding a video on this topic from four months ago was as easy as you just searching for it like that yeah Well, good luck us and good luck everybody else. And if you guys want to check out the video, you can head over to Space Invader 1's Patreon, where that video is still up. If you ever want to watch DeGoogle Your Life Part 2, I don't actually think we did leave it up on float plane. Did we?

That is a good question. What? Part 2, it's up. Part 2 is up. Oh, okay. Yeah. Are you sure? 100%. You're 100% sure. I am 100% sure.

Oh, good. Okay. Neat. Well, that's up on... Oh, yeah, there it is. Cool. So that's up on float plane. Oh, yeah.

Our search is not the greatest. There's a fun trick. If you put it in quotes, it immediately works wildly better. We know what's wrong. We'll get to fixing it. Nope, didn't work. You just put D-Google in quotes

and it didn't work because I've done this like five times this show so far. No. because I didn't put D-Google. I just put Google Your Life. Oh. So it brought up probably any video that had the words Google your and life anywhere in the title, comments, and description would be my guess, right?

That is, it's been a lot of times since I've looked into our search, maybe. But yeah, D-Google would have worked for you. Cool. All right. What's next? What do you want to talk about, Dan? We're going to mix it up. Dan, choose our next topic.

Oh, we're going to talk about Windows 11. Because I'm not moving over. Yeah, good. Ever. Good. I'm waiting for 12. You know that the past pattern of like good windows, crappy windows, good windows, crappy windows, is not an indication of future good windows.

Prove me wrong windows. I mean, don't tempt them. Prove you right. Prove him wrong. I'm just going back. Put backwards. I'm going back to seven. Oh, my God.

Good. Microsoft is blocking more ways to set up a Windows 11 local account. When announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview builds 26120.672, Microsoft revealed that they are removing known mechanisms for setting up an offline or local account. Microsoft says users will need to complete their Windows 11 setup with an internet connection and with a Microsoft account. As you would probably expect, it was not long before folks started to make workarounds. And notebook check, who we were reading when we were looking at this development, already has some examples of how to make a local account on Windows 11's new build.

So if you guys want to head on over, I'm not saying, look, Google, just calm down. You have a little relaxed. I think you should. I think you should go read the article and I think you should make a local account. I am not providing anyone with instructions to anything. I think you should do it. This is notebook check,

an unaffiliated website with which I have nothing to do. I don't even know if they have ever even associated with me in any way. Maybe they said mean things about me. I literally don't know. What I do know is that this is not a page that you should ever look up. there please don't take down my wandshow uh discussion question aside from simply allowing local accounts what can microsoft do to repair windows 11's public image i mean oh dude i mean like where do you even

where do you even start with stuff like that right like here let's try a thing let's try a thing for fun tell me something that um might be on my computer that i could search for i can tell you things i wish were on your computer that you could search for uh what happened to local games without ads um okay uh something no pad that'll show up that'll work yeah okay that worked immediately okay bad example usually it's individual files that I wouldn't know you have on your computer that doesn't immediately search up well let's find out what files I have on my computer probably not a ton because they're why don't show laptops uh yeah that's this is not that's true

it's not going to be an amazing example but I'm pretty sure everybody has experienced this so we could just tell them what you're talking about okay okay okay basically when you search for things on windows and you can disable this oh hey it found it found my favorite Luke meme. Okay, you know what? The search actually worked pretty okay there, but there's definitely times when it doesn't work too good.

All right, why don't we move on? My goodness. Oh, yeah, what could they do to fix the image? I mean, okay, fix the search. Well, maybe it's great. yeah okay permanently fix the search we should do a

do a labs thing does Windows search still suck I don't know if you would prove it one way or the other unfortunately you could do a lot of dive yeah but from one machine to the next sometimes you'll have a pretty different experience like I

from one day to from one search to the next I can type the same bunch of different ones I can type the same characters and it will like literally like oh man what was uh what was one that would happen all the time for me because i had two applications that had like the first three or four letters in common that one's rough ah yeah that one's really rough when they when the one that it's auto selecting will change yeah after you finish typing even though they both share all the same letters it will like randomly change when you type one more

letter it's just bizarre what is the name of uh battle state so it i would try to open the battle state launcher back in the day right i couldn't remember the name of the company it's been a while but i'd try to open the battle state launcher to play tarkov and i type bat and it would show the battle state launcher and then like in the time that it takes for me to shift my hand over to enter it would switch to battle net and then i'd be like what nice why like hold it under or something is this pre or post activation acquisition putting on my tinfoil hat definitely post

oh I knew it I knew it this is a good one uh XD stock and float plane chat says I tried to open PowerShell the other day and it web searched it instead no I don't know it's just

it's tough to it's the kind of thing that's really tough to replicate yeah one of them was the new Windows 11 preview build has folks wanted to jump ship. So what advice would you give any Windows users consider swat considering swapping their OS in 2025? Mm. Um, do it. Some games are still a problem. Yeah, but send it. Yeah, give it a shot, right? At least try. Here's a, here's a wild question. Do you need to play the games that are on

Windows? Yeah, probably not. There's some like friend group issues. Yeah. I mean, you ran into that back when we did the Linux challenge a couple years ago. And it would again be a problem. Battlefield, which is funny. Because if I did it now, it would be Battlefield again. Yeah. Nice. Was that Battlefield?

2042. Okay. Which turns out not a big deal that I couldn't play that one. Right, but you're pretty psyched for Battlefield 6. Yeah, okay. I think it comes out like tonight, but I can't play because my computer's not set up anyways. Nice. And I have like things to do.

Nice. But I will play eventually. Maybe I'll play it and think of you. I won't. I'll be playing the Elise Chronicles. The what? Oh, the Final Fantasy Tactics. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. I'm like 20.

People saying it's already out. Yeah, I think of five hours. Today, right? I was working. Oh, Handyman figured it out. Yeah, it was Teams and Team Viewer. Uh, was what I would always, it would like change. I'd type, I'd type TEA, and it would be like, team viewer, and I'd hit M, and it'd be like,

brop, you mean teams? And I'd hit Enter because. Sometimes my typing just, like, has momentum. Yeah, of course. And I'll be like, oh, no, you've got it already. And then it would change right as I hit, like, one more key. Like, ah, no, it's not what I meant to open. Apparently, uh, stranger,

Schenger IFIT? I don't know. Uh, their name is floatgoat in battlefield. Let's go. Uh, my little note here is maybe Microsoft should pull an edge. Other people are doing it. What if they just based their operating system off of Linux? with Edge they just based it off of

Chromium. What if they just gave up on the Windows kernel? What if they just let it die? Imagine how much better Windows server would be. That's kind of crazy. You're proposing that they turn Windows into a Linux distro.

If the next iteration of Windows is just a distro of Linux. Yeah, with like a bunch of ads in bull crap, because that's what they do now, right? So that would work. I think they should just do it. I told you Windows 12 would be great.

I told you Windows 12 would be great. I told you, man. Windows aren't arched. Think about it. So much of the bat catalog is going to have to be like emulatable because of the switch to arm anyway. Like looking at what a colossal project that has been would, would figuring out a compatibility layer for your older Windows apps

for new Linux Windows really be any harder than that. I literally don't know. I actually do not know the answer to that. It would be great. But given that Valve and the open source community managed to do it

to a significant degree for gaming, given that there are already there's already such widespread support for well okay no sorry i'm just i'm trying to i'm trying to wrap my brain around this because somehow in all the years of wandshow we have never talked about this could you could you could you use like game pass native on linux yeah why not could you use like virtualization in some way like could you could you virtualize old windows to run certain

apps like could you because there's the wine compatibility layer. Yeah. People have called that out in full punch. I just anyways. There's some

stuff to do this already like Valve. They could just pour into these open source projects and get it done. Look at the rapid development

that happened with Proton. Right, but they want dude, but then why would OEMs like Lenovo and Acer keep pouring money into their coffers

for Windows licenses then at that point because they do still make money on Windows as far as I can tell. Microsoft Windows. Is it against agreements to charge for a Linux distro? No, I don't think so. Well, then they could just do that.

Right, but who would pay for it at that point? The familiarity would be there. Not with the way they keep changing the stupid UI all the time. I mean, why was my start menu in the middle all of a sudden? Yeah, Redhead is pretty sure. I just didn't know if that was purely a support contract. or if you actually had to pay for the distro itself. I wasn't sure about that.

Windows revenue, here we go. Fiscal year 2024 compared to fiscal year 2023, revenue increased 13%. Windows revenue increased 8% driven by growth in Windows commercial and Windows OEM. So note that retail is not their focus, not even a little bit.

Commercial products and cloud services revenue you increase the blah blah blah Microsoft 365 Windows oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah so this is this is just like system system builders windows um yeah so I I can't think of a reason why if I'm Lenovo I want to keep paying even the bulk rate bulk rate Windows licenses if my user for this system is going to be able to just not run Windows and run all the same software but that's the thing run all the same software yeah stuff like Teams, Microsoft Teams, is rough. Every time I've had to use it, it's rough.

To the point where it usually ends up being worth it to just run it in a browser, which is a worst experience for an app like that, in my opinion. Rye saw says most users are just going to use whatever their computer ships with, which is fair enough. I just, if I'm an Acer. People have tried it, though, and those are less popular options, even when they're cheaper. But I might want to dip my toes into it. it if all of a sudden it wouldn't matter like if it legitimately wouldn't matter because the second

Microsoft ships their uh the lindos fork or whatever uh i think that already exists i think it's just a linux that is like kind of skinned like windows but the second they ship that you know that there's going to be forks upon forks upon forks upon forks of that that try to replicate as much of the linux windows experience as possible and if what matters to the typical users that they're browser works and the familiarity of the interface, then I just don't think there's going to be much special sauce left for Windows at that point. Like the compatibility is pretty much the only thing keeping me on it now. Like just knowing that, especially games. It is purely the only thing giving me on it. Anything I want to run is going to work on it. So unless they put a ton of work

into proprietary compatibility layers, then I just don't really see what value there, Windows Linux would have. I think it would be funny. Yeah, funny, yes, but there's billions of dollars on the line for them. They can't just do things. A long time down there. They can't just like shit post a new Windows. Computers are getting less and less central in people's lives.

Linux is getting easier and easier for people to use, and the barriers are getting lower due to things like Proton. 10 years, 15 years If people just don't really care of that much anymore They could try They'll still care about Consider it long-term PMs at Microsoft Consider it

I would love it to happen I want Windows to die I wish I didn't think that I desperately wish I didn't think that If you asked me like Seven years ago I'd just be happy using Windows for the entire rest of my life no problem.

I like it a lot. The only trend line in Windows for a long, long time has been, boom. I like, hate it. So unless there's a significant change. 8.1 was okay. 8.1 was all right.

Yeah. 8 was... And 8.1 needed some work, but you could get it to be pretty solid. And then it would stay pretty solid. Oh yeah, toward the end of 8.1 when it was service packed up, like it was... It was pretty all right, yeah. And then right back at it, Windows 10 didn't like that.

Never liked that. Windows 11 came out, never liked that. I can't remember what I thought of Windows 10. I think Windows 10 was okay. I actually, man, it's kind of amazing how long ago Windows 10 came out. Yeah, so just for reference for people. yeah Windows 10 came out 10 years ago like what so I have actively very much disliked everything about Windows for 10 years right so at a certain point it's just like damn dude can we make Luke switch to macOS no probably not I mean it really doesn't matter that much honestly and macOS gets ironically better support from when from Microsoft than Linux does in a lot of cases It's like teams on macOS

Definitely Yeah Yeah that's not That's not even That's like all the time Oh no no I know I just mean The irony is just that

You know Windows Mac But like It's mostly Keep those Linux guys out Yeah It's uh It's

Yeah And I don't think it like Has to always be this way I absolutely Definitely think there is a path to redemption for Windows I just don't think They're going to take it

That's why I'm like So frustrated And it's been so long of being very sure they're not going to take it that it's just like all right i just kind of wonder why it'd be it'd be interesting to sit in the boardroom and my sorry no go ahead my completely ignorant naive opinion is that it would be so easy to make it not trash i don't think it would take that much work to make it not trash genuinely because like there are a lot of things in my opinion that windows could do that would make it cool and interesting and they don't

that's a whole other question the thing that bothers me most is the things that they actively do that actively make it bad or worse um like if i if i have purchased my windows i don't want freaking ads right ever any amount go away like just there's certain things that are like my goodness and we know that they've been rather okay with windows piracy for like a long time yeah so if you're to do that, just put ads in those versions, whatever. But if I bought it, go away. Like, you just mentioned it barely matters anymore. I agree.

So get out of my way. Don't just, like, put all this junk there all the time. Don't make search bad, or make it an easy toggle and never turn it back on if I turn it off. No questions. If I'm like, you know what, I kind of like just using my start for search and for local files. But if you did, sure, then you can leave that on. That's no problem. But just let me turn it off and don't bury it in a reg edit and don't reset it every once in a while. Remember when like

media player was pretty cool? Media player used to be sick. The new one is so annoying. Do you remember when the ability to view photos within windows was not horrible? Wasn't just a trash experience? They have this new, what is it called? Why does this pop up coming up? Go away! Where is this? the X? Where's the X? Like this sucks so much. This is such a terrible experience.

Any window that doesn't have an X in the top right should be banned. Yeah. By law. Yeah. I don't want next. I don't want anything. I want this to get out of my way

because I'm using my computer. I hate the new photos app. I hate the new video playing app. I actually did kind of like old like Windows Mini Player Classic. I know it was like more based to use VLC. or whatever else, but I liked Windows Media Player Classic. Why did this open in a new thing?

Yeah, it's whack. They have Clipchamp now. Is it at least easy to just quickly crop something now? Because that used to drive me absolutely crazy. Is that, let's see. Oh, hold on, edit. Resize. Is this going to open in yet another window?

No, no. Okay, here we go. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, at least there's like a quick way to crop things in here now. how do I apply it why is this what is all this AI crap uh okay

save so wait did I okay is it okay I can't just I can't just apply it dude I don't know maybe I'm missing something here but like this part's whatever

that's just getting used to how this app works I hope you think so I hope I don't know I don't know man when I, I, I, I don't know why apply buttons went out of fashion. I suspect if you just saved it, it would just be that. Yeah, it will. No, no, no, no.

I don't, no, I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that. I just, I don't know, man, I just, I like, sure. I like being able to apply a change. I just know it's done. And then seeing that it is done. It just doesn't seem, this, this is better than it was for a long time, man. The stupid.

Do you have clipchamp on your computer? I do have Clipchamp. I mean, it comes installed on my computer. Pisses me. Um, what is it, is it worse than Windows Movie Maker? I mean, Windows Movie Maker was kind of a piece of junk. Why not just make, Windows Movie Maker better? Apparently, mine doesn't even have ClipChimp.

Oh, I have Clipchamp. I can open up Clipcham. I probably uninstalled it. I may have done a pass and like, sure. I always do a sanitization. Done. Immediately pissed. This is my point.

What are you talking about? I want to edit a video. I don't need to log into your stupid thing. I need a timeline. I need to put the video on it. Maybe the video has some audio. Great. There should be a timeline for the audio.

If not, I can put my own audio there. You had Windows Movie Maker. Tons of people actually cut their teeth on editing videos with Windows Movie Maker. It was kind of rough, but they could have just made the experience better over time. Hold on, Luke. Are you wanting to sign in with Google or email?

Oh. Would that be? make it better? Just stop. Like, oh my God. They're differentiating factor for Microsoft seems to be right now that they're pushing the apps. Like the negative thing they're doing towards Linux is that there's no

like native from vendor teams app. I don't think you can do Office 365 natively on Linux. I'm not sure. I just don't think so. Or at least not easily. Okay. So make your video editor like at least fine they've retired the official native teams up for linux in late 2022 according to AI overview yeah so you have to use this like other one and it has a bunch of issues and it is what it is I appreciate that somebody made one at all but like it's far from

perfect yeah okay this is uh also on uh Q&A on Microsoft it might be far from perfect because they haven't really had that much time because it that happened not that long ago but it's just like there's all these things where like if the if the I never hear those types of complaints from apple people I hear other complaints but I don't hear those types of complaints windows is so obsessed with constantly stopping you from doing the thing that you want to do pug boy 1321 says I miss when windows let us set another media player as the default for every format now I have to do it profile type yeah the change in the defaults is so annoying now like it's just another like Why? And the, oh man, the one that really kills me is that wizard that comes up, like every, I don't know, every three months, every six months. You know the one I'm talking about where it makes you-

Formatted your computer? It makes you go through the Ubi again. Yeah. And like dark patterns the crap out of you trying to get you to change to edge. Intensely. Luke, yours did that when I turned it on this morning. Not surprised. Happens every once in a while. Never do that. Yeah. There's like there's so many things that it's like never under any circumstance. do that and then it's just everything on Windows. It's like whoa, but then stopping doing that doesn't seem that hard which I'm like I don't know maybe if like the right person gets in the right position

they can fix it. It is definitely not unfixable. I just don't believe it's going to happen anymore because it's been so long of just constantly trending in this direction. A DDoC says you can turn that off

and that's cool. I actually didn't know that because from my understanding it happens when you apply major update so I just assumed that it was reenabling itself so I didn't know that that's good to know but also I shouldn't have to that should just not happen

even once or or if they must do it a confirmation screen here's the way everything was set up because I mean nowadays they still good with this they still roll out they roll out things that would have been a surface pack, or a service pack, or that would have been

like a, like a major update as just part of like, you know, last Windows you'll ever need whatever, like they really do do major updates that would have previously been another version of Windows or there would have been a service pack or something. Sure. So I could see. I don't know about another version of Windows, but definitely service pack. Every once in a while, if they were to do something like that. I mean, Windows 10 changed a friggin' lot from day one to sunset, like a lot.

under the hood um i don't i don't know i leave that to you guys but it's the fact that it's mostly under the hood is why i don't see another version of sure yeah you know what that's fair but i i also think you're right but either way if every once in a while they did a major one and they were like yeah this is basically like you know being on a new windows and they were like hey here's how you had everything set up before you're still good with this if i had to click one button okay it's also genuinely, like, confusing for a lot of people, and they think their computer just, like, reset. Oh, dude, my, my kids accidentally update our media, updated our media PC to Windows 11 because of one of those prompts. Exactly. It's weird. It's very unnatural. It feels

like something is wrong with your computer. Like, it was a different one. Like, it was the upgrade to Windows 11 prompt, but I think you get what I mean, just like these full screen, take over your whole computer, dark patterned like crazy. Definitely click the blue. button like I came and I was like oh my god we have no Wi-Fi drivers why do why do we have no Wi-Fi drive why are we running Windows 11 everything on this machine was working perfectly have a window pop up make it full screen if you want but leave your start menu so you can tell that the computer booted properly have like those whatever they're called there's emojis for them where like the streamers pop out the party streamers pop out and there's like a canon thing

whatever have those in the corner have them like actually go off and animate like you got a big upgrade to Windows 11 hooray there's you guys you're you Here's some cool things. Do you still want your settings to be the same? This is what they were. Like now I'm like, oh, sick. This thing that I bought just got better instead of incredibly annoyed. Like, this is what I mean.

The gap is not that hard to jump. But I don't trust they'll do it because they haven't done it in a decade. Right. Which is too long. So I don't know. You heard it here first. We finally found what's too long for Luke. I just, I never thought it was going to happen.

But it finally came. If they give me a little bit of hope, I can keep. Yeah, if they give me a little hope, I can keep going. They just got to tease it a little bit. Yeah. Oh, God. Anyway. I just hear Dan dying.

Dan guide us Guide us back to the path Yeah so either Either they figure it out Which I don't think they will Or I hope it dies And Linux gets easier to use For more people

The community grows And things keep getting better Why not both? I'm down with both It's not gonna happen Yeah I know I'm totally down with both though Dude I am

Actually just kind of like Normally like Windows I just don't anymore I think Windows is fine I'm so excited For my Steam machine Do you know about my steam machine?

Not at all. Do you remember the very low number of steam, like... I remember seeing all of them on one table at CES. Built by Valve. No, no, no.

Not the like, OEM, like, stupid alienware ones or whatever. Do you remember the Valve steam machine, the like reference design? I remember it. I don't think I got to see that

in person. I just saw the, uh, the vendor ones. Uh, steam machine. Here we go. Images. I'm talking about this one Oh yeah

No, I remember it for sure I just haven't seen it in person I got one You got one That's actually cool I never got one back then I wasn't cool enough Or important enough

Does it like boot into an environment I mean Oh I don't know I don't think the storage is still in it or anything I can go get it You want to see it? Yeah Okay

That'll be sick All right stall the people Okay Do a sponsor do a sponsor spot I always have to do it Sure No problem Can I just do all of them

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Oh, hold on. I'm peeking. I don't have pants on down here. Pants to yourself. I've seen that before. Ooh. I'm going to make, uh, I'm going to make, uh, not a joke

that is actually way bigger than I was expecting it to be I don't know how to make that not sexual but I thought it was like Nvidia Shield size so it's got like a brushed that is handmade isn't it plastic front

unfortunately it's been through some hard times so this little spot on the front is dented I'm afraid all ventilation down this side the parts do all ventilation down this side.

I believe... Look at the top, too. Yep. Tons of ventilation. It was a different time, and these vent holes are for, you can actually see here, for the CPU socket,

or for the CPU area. All those ports on the GPU. They're above the socket, which means that the GPU is actually kind of going to starve for airflow. So I think there's going to be some necessary modifications

in order to put a more... I don't remember that card having a yellow... Modern system here, Zotak probably. Would be my guess. And then, yeah, to Luke's point, the back... This must be the original hardware that was in it. I actually don't know that for sure,

but it's gotta be. And then my understanding is that this is not, like, damage that happened at some point. I think this was how they marked the serial of which one it was. Um, so there's, there's 300 holes here. Um, and did, how many units did they make?

Did they make 300 units? I actually, I actually don't know how many they made. Jean-Luc in full plane chat said, careful, the drilled hole tells Valve which serial number you have. Oh, okay, yeah. Were you supposed to show that? Well, I, Valve didn't send it to me. Right, but did the person who sent it to you, could they?

No, it ended up in like a junk shop or something. thing. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, dude, this was... It was a very... For Val to still be mad about a system they sent out 12 years ago, I think is probably pretty unlikely. Yeah. You know, you never know.

There's an angle on there that looks rough. Yeah. Also, should we try to open it? Should we open it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we should open it. Oh, okay. That just started going.

That was not that bad. All right, so there's the top. Looks a little... Hey, you're ready to... about the brand something like that the witch now is the Zotak oh yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure uh and then yeah here's the internals so it's it's actually a really thoughtfully laid out case um uses PCI i like a hard PCI E riser so it so it orients the card that is really solid actually yeah no it's no it's pretty cool so you have a hard riser coming out of here your your card goes in right here

your your intake is like oh my god what were they what were they thinking here? Because this side is vented, right? So theoretically you're getting some air here, but absolutely nothing here. But they're using a blower-style cooler so that at least it's taking that hot air and it's getting rid of it out the back of the system.

But it doesn't really have an intake fan, right? Because your power supply, that'll draw air in that. So remember, this was the side that had the vents on the top, right? So that'll draw air in and then... The GPU doesn't blow it out. and well no the case doesn't have an air intake oh the general case well oh wow that that is loose yes okay so this will draw some air in but you can see it's all

it's all shrouded oh the fins on there too so it'll come right out here so the fins on the CPU uh oh yeah I got a little bit they got a little mangled there so so both of these are drawing air in but they're also exhausting it directly out so oh man it's really hard to hold stuff up when I'm hearing it doesn't matter so the case itself doesn't have a single intake that provides any fresh air to this GPU like there's there's so it's negative air pressure because these are both in their own isolated airflow zones and then this one has a fan here right that is exhausting but it has there's no equivalent air intake for the exhaust that is that is blowing out uh it's got a spot for

a two and a half inch SSD here but pretty much the idea what i've been waiting for for three and a half years is for valve to follow through on the commitment they made when they launched the steam deck three and a half years ago to create steamOS for desktop are you going to upgrade that machine and then install it on there that's sick and then this will be this will be my living room console. That's fantastic. Could I ask? No, you can't have it. No. How much was it? Oh, I don't actually know. I I think we like found it in a in like a junk pile. Oh no way. Yeah like like it ended up at like a free geek equivalent or something and I think someone offered to send it to us or something like

that. I'm pretty sure we didn't pay for it. Wow. So in terms of like you know buying stolen goods or whatever no we didn't like we didn't go looking for someone's coveted intellectual property or anything like that. For sure. I mean, I'd be curious to know if there's any if there's any out there.

So, Valve Steam machine. So they only sent this out to like gaming press, I think. Oh yeah. eBay,

eBay has got nothing. They got literal, actual like, steam machines. So, sorry, you won't be, you won't be

finding one of those there. Claim that is your upgrade? You have the right? No, I don't think so. Unfortunately, that's not how the terms work. It's freaking cool, though.

I, uh, oh, is that a fan? No, it's not. Nope, it's just a little short. I mean, it's already pre-paid. Yeah, that's true. And you're replacing all the hardware. It's probably fine. Yeah, I'm, dude, I'm...

Will you refinish the case at all? So, okay. Are you going to leave some... That's a hard question. That's a tough one. Because... the wanting a beautiful system in me would be like yeah

you know what I really want to do is I want to do like I want to do a cool color scheme I want to I want to pull out this internal mesh and then I want to paint that like an accent color and that'd be super cool and then I want to do this top like a whatever and then I want to do like a hand-painted you know third color here like like a cool

like red or like a gold or like a science Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something cool like that. Cyan would look sick, actually. Right, like I just, I wanted, but then it feels wrong, right? Yeah, it kind of does. It kind of does. I'm unsure, but I think making significant changes, yes, but what if you, like, cleaned up some of the dings?

You wouldn't be able to do that, though. Without, like, painting it? This is anodized aluminum. Yeah, okay. So you would have to, you'd have to, you'd have to strip the anodization. which for my understanding is un is un um you're not restoring at that point you're kind of modifying what if you painted it the same no it's it can be challenging removing annotization can be quite challenging got it um someone said you have a CNC machine make a new hood i mean i could but that's not

no yeah you don't want to make a new hood it has to be the same one yeah for sure that's that's for sure man I'd want to do like a super cool color scheme though like a baby blue and yellow or something for like what if you have like like like a really out there color scheme you do it as a wrap you have two oh you have two TVs you have the upstairs and downstairs what if you did what if you recreated this and made it cool in the way that you would want and also had the OG one what if you had two uh I mean I just have to brace myself for all of the remember when Linus tech tips was relatable comments but other than that I guess I don't see a downside uh it would be those comments are going to show up anyways there's a lot of aspects of this that would be pretty

untrivial to recreate like we basically have to you can 3D print a lot of it but like i'm not going to commit to that i'm definitely yeah not going to commit to that i wouldn't expect to do right now either it's just potentially an option that's sick though does it does the around the power button light up it looked like it did in the picture I believe it does but I don't think I've ever tried to power this one up you should

we should do it right now you want to do it right now? Let's do it right now I mean do you have a C-13 we can try I have no idea man Daniel Besser

I think Luke would like us to obtain a C-13 power cable he's on it yeah yeah yeah Dan will have a way, I'm sure Man, I wish the dings weren't in the front All the dings are in the front Like the back is...

Okay, no, there's some pretty big dings in the back Okay, the dings are everywhere Dude, I'm so excited It's survived It's so compact, it's so console-like If Valve had just ponied up And they had done the same thing they did with the steam deck Where they subsidized the hardware

I think we would have... I think we'd have a steam, like, desktop console. Yeah. Like, I mean, the software wasn't ready yet, though. That's true. It was so far off. They waited for the right time, ultimately. Letting them cook for longer was, was also good.

It was a good thing. Thank you, Mr. Daniel. Can we, can we display, does it, HTML right? Do you want to? Oh, I mean, yeah, I guess. Mine? Okay. Much longer.

What a dick Did the stream hear that That was good! That was good! That was good! That was good! That was good! That was good! There you go! That was very good. USB? Does it make your mother uncomfortable that we talk about your penis so much on this show? Probably. I mean, she's seen it a thousand times. I guess it doesn't really matter. Sorry, Mom.

Not in like a weird way. you know and like he was when I was all over himself you know I was going to say yours too

okay okay let's try to yeah good luck there's no chicken yeah yeah

the proximity to discussing people's parents and making seduction jokes is too close Dan yeah yeah too close. What's going on here?

Well, I don't know. I pressed what I think is the power button. And nothing happened, sir. The banner, damn. The banner? Sure. Oh, yeah, no, they can't. I'm working on it. There's not a whole lot

to see that isn't happening. That was a very nimble and good save. Thank you. Did we try to bypass the front panel headers? I mean, yeah, we could, I mean, how much troubleshooting do you want to do on the WAN show? That's not what this show is. This is probably the best and most interesting. part of the WAN show so far. Um, okay.

I'm not even... I think you might just be a bit of a Val fanboy and a little bit extra excite right now. The 30% is a lot, okay? The 30% is a large amount. Dude, it's like, it's like buried in there. Brugas Studios video has info for us? Uh, I'm not gonna be able to, like, watch that right now. Is this power supply on? Is it outlet work?

Oh, I don't know. I suspect the system is broken, you guys. I really don't. I also have to say, of course, bring his studio as a video on this. There's no power switch on the power supply, so. Yeah, guys, I think he's dead. I think he's dead, Jim.

I think that the best course of action is for us to put new hardware in it and make us sick. Yeah, anyways, we don't have to, but. Sorry, what do you want me to do? You could bypass the pass through and plug directly into the power supply. I really. And you could try to bridge the header. I can't reach it.

Look, the motherboard's completely covered, brother. Well, we could, I'm sure you have an LTTStore.com screwdriver readily accessible at all periods of time. Yes, I do. So you can't tell me a few little screws are going to defeat the great line of Sebastian. Do you want me to troubleshoot it back here? We could also do that. We could continue the show and Dan could solve the troubleshooting things. Oh my God, you guys.

I could just call Jordan, who is the writer for this project and be like, hey, have you tested the system? Does it work? That would probably be easier. Okay, no, it is not that. That is not the problem. Okay, cool. One problem down. Oh, my God. It's good. It's good. You're killing me.

We don't have to do it, but it's just, it's very interesting. For something we don't have to do, you're sure putting an awful lot of pressure to do it. Do we really have to do anything? what does that even mean that means that we should do this fine we can we can go as far as bridging the power switch

on the motherboard are we passing it to Dan Dan's gonna have to do it because we're gonna have to do the WAN show at some point yeah that's fine all right Dan come come okay oh here it's going the wrong way I got it oh

knocked my mind twice they're sorry people okay now Dan can't even do his job which is about to get more difficult because we're about to talk about the creator warehouse stuff this week we have an exclusive floatplane drop on LTT store.com if you're a floatplane subscriber you already know that it's been Sarah week featuring content centering around our designer Sarah just today we released her trip to dinosaur town, aka Drumheller, where she visited

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But that's not all. We're also offering everybody a chance to save this weekend with 10% off all digital gift cards. So essentially, you can get 10% off pretty much everything on the store. Grab one today at LM.g.g.g slash gift card. page not found hold on a second uh is that is that not real um Luke is that are you it worked for me okay so here's the US site select denomination and what happens if I add it to cart uh-huh okay it is discounted by $10 oh this is going to be a problem is it

uh for us why because you can send a merch message by buying a hundred dollars for ninety dollars see i knew we were going to do a gift card discount promo i didn't think we were going to do it now before black friday Hold on a second. This may go away. One moment, please. I need to make a call. You probably shouldn't have said that.

I didn't even think about that at all. When's it Black Friday? Not yet. I need to make a really quick call here. November 28th. Oh, it's not for a while. That's not the point. The point is that Black Friday will already be discounted.

Hey look the only good thing about teams What The song Yeah but that's just from Skype Uh huh They just remixed Skype Uh huh Okay he's not picking up

Um Hathos asks Linus can you use a gift card to buy a gift card If I have If I buy a $100 gift card for $90 then use that $100 gift card to buy another $100 gift card for $90. Did you guys think about that?

How would you do that? Hold on. How would you not do that? Is I buy, then I use that to buy another? No, I don't think you can do that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Did you want to do a topic really quick?

Sure. I just did to find out what's going on. Can I just do the other stuff? two sponsors, Dan? No, no, no, no. We should do some topics. Okay. Do you have any that I could do?

Yeah, we should do a couple of merch messages. Probably not directly for you. If there's general ones, I can do those, or I can talk about... We should explain merch messages. So the way to send a merch message is to add something to your card on LTT store.com. Once you add something to your cart, say for example... Okay. So once you add something to your cart, say for example,

one of our new t-shirt colors available in long sleeve and short sleeve and available in regular and tall lengths, that's right. Let's go. So you could get a tall, medium shirt. My God, is this ever a lot of skews? Imagine it all. Imagine all of these colors in different lengths, in different sizes, and imagine why... Out of stock.

Some of them are out of stock. Yeah, it totally makes sense if you think about it. Anyway, the point is you add that to your cart and you'll see the interface for merch messages. You can either make it anonymous or you can show your first name. and last initial, you can leave a merch message for the show. It'll go to producer Dan who is working on a computer and also will reply to your merch message.

Yeah, you do both. We think merch messages are great because instead of just throwing money at your screen, we don't really want your donations. We would much rather that you just, you know, get some high quality merchandise in the mail if you want to support the show.

So, LTTStore.com go send a merch message right. Well, right, Dan's going to have us reply to a couple of merch messages. That's what happens when he curates them. This was the most disjointed merch message thing ever. I really want to know what's going on with this gift card promo. Make another call. I have one here for Luke. So, hi, LLD. Luke, did you get a chance to tour any ESA facilities in Germany? They held their open days roughly at the same time as IFA. I had no idea. That was a thing. I had no idea they used.

even ever did that, let alone that it happened while I was there. That would have been sick. I would have a thousand percent did that, done that. ESA is the European Space Agency, just in case people did not know. Oh, no. Oh, no? Just leave it. Yeah, anyways, separate thing.

But yeah, no, that's really cool. I like that they do open days. It was really fun. I don't think it got a crazy amount of views. I don't know if it was the title or something, but you guys should go. watch um alinus video do do did it end up doing better did it just bad target for no reason um i did but you should go watch anyways because it deserves even more views the canada's las vegas sphere is here and i game on it video is awesome there's a there's a place up here called the hr mcmillan

uh space center or something but there's a thing that they call the planetarium in there which is this really, really cool theater and like basically everyone that lives here when they were a kid went to go see things on the planetarium and remembers that experience because it's just awesome and they're doing an upgrade to it

that looks amazing and Linus got some really cool behind the scenes access to the hardware and how they're doing it and some of the history of that place because it's like genuinely really interesting and they play a game on it and even just the act of playing the game on it is really interesting

because of how they have to like kind of warp it to make it work on that screen and the screen having holes in it so it's you can hear acoustics through the screen and yada yada yada yada it's a very interesting video space stuff is cool I don't really have anything else to say I wish I knew that ESA thing and we'll keep that in mind in the future but yeah yeah so someone in chat cam Stabro said I have very positive memories of H.R. McMillan Everyone I know that's been there when they were a kid has very positive memories of H.R. McMillan. I cannot reach Dave. This is my fault.

He messaged me before the show today at yesterday. Sounds good. We are testing a 10% gift card promotion this weekend to see how it goes. I had a full day and five and a half hours to say oh my God no not before Black Friday what are you changing Dan let's leave it till midnight anyone who watches live or watches the VOD immediately my loss is your gain

if you buy gift cards with gift cards we will cancel the whole thing that's I was just going to message you okay we good do we have an accord please buy something profitable with it because you could

absolutely go from the cheapest gift card to the most expensive one I know multiples of the most expensive one but if you do that we will cancel your order so there's really no point doing that whereas if you do this now in good faith and order one gift card for with the discount then we will leave it alone we will honor it even though I think the timing for this is you just know there was

not optimal some person sitting at their computer infinite money glitching gift cards that just went oh some person yeah probably a bunch yeah but guys like come on yeah yeah wild uh four com five said what's profitable i will show you i will show you how to tell so okay if something has a little discount little nice discount probably profitable if something uh has a let's see do we still have the um uh oh yeah no the the like the like uber clearance stuff is gone so if something has like an uber clearance like 50% plus discount 40% discount on it. Probably it's a loss leader.

That's generally the way to tell. So just, yeah, do me a solid. If you must have it before Black Friday, just don't just load up on lost leaders. If you could just find something else as well, that would be swell. So it sounds like they do block it, Dan. From what people in full plate chat are saying

is you can't buy just a gift card with just a gift card. Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense. You can split the transaction. You could buy just a gift card with a gift card and some money. Oh, okay. Don't do that either. That's the gist that I'm getting. Okay.

Okay. Cool. Okay, cool. Good chat. Style 451 says, So the gift cards are profitable with their teeny tiny 10% discount. Not how that works. Yeah.

Okay. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. There's 42 merge messages in the queue. We have made a terrible mistake. How you doing, Dan? What have you done? Technically, it wasn't him.

Yeah. Usually it is, and I'm down with that. Okay. But this time. Oh, man. Okay. Let's just do a topic. Why don't we do a topic?

Let's pick some good news. let's see South Korean government loses a bunch of money and a fire or data in a fire oh no Logitech bricks

it's pop smart home buttons no Qualcom acquires Arduino no no Ford is locking

basic navigation behind a subscription no oh Synology yeah hey this isn't someone that I was expecting

to give good news on no but on October 8th Synology announced DSM 7.3 along with

expand storage flexibility which less storage flexibility is what that means yeah it means temporarily for a short period of time they had reduced storage flexibility and they are back to status quo they have walked back the unpopular change that restricted the use of third-party hard drives that they made earlier this year literally it didn't even last for a year sonology stated in their announcement this provides use greater flexibility while Synology continues to expand the lineup of officially verified drives that meet long-term reliability standards. By the way, full disclosure, I am invested in Eshtech, the makers of HexOS, who are making an operating system that I hope will make Synology completely obsolete someday.

So far, they're not there yet, but they do have some big news today. So it's actually kind of convenient that Synology gave us a reason to talk about. about them today. Ad closure, not disclosure. Am I right? Audience. What? Ad closure? You said fold disclosure. I'm invested in HexOS. Also, they're amazing. Look at all these cool features. That sounds like an ad closure, not a disclosure. You want to hear something? Deal with it. No. Um, okay. I don't know. Do John Texas I'm not invested in either of these companies and what Synology did sucked and calling it expanded storage flexibility is also just complete BS and makes me even not more upset than the original

status but I am now still displeased okay and I have a sonology device at home okay what is going on so I click the blog aiming to not use it in the future thinking I would find the update but it's not in the blog it's apparently in docs what what did Okay, docs. Dox.exos.com slash blog. Do you have two blogs? Hey. That's illegal.

Everyone gets issued one blog. They have two blogs. Don't do that. Eshtech, just, ah, okay, doesn't matter. The point is, um, by enabling experimental features and settings preferences, you can now access the custom script option for app installs. This is one of the big features that I think is going to really set HXOS apart is easy installation of curated apps.

From there, you can tweak existing install scripts, create entirely new ones, and share them with the community, or submit them to the official HXOS curation templates. This is pretty cool. They also launched their official documentation site, a centralized resources to bring together getting started guides, feature documentation, troubleshooting help, et cetera. First flight improvements. This was actually based on Robert, Robert Oaks. he was one of our editors.

We did his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade very recently. I think it's going up in the next few days. And I ran into some issues with the first flight, the sort of setup wizard. And I was like, hey, can you fix that? And they did. Pretty neat. Folder wizard, much like manual pool creation,

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, looking ahead. Okay, this is a big deal. Because one of the big criticisms of HexUS, HexOS, back when they first announced it, was, hey, Why do I need an account and why do I need to access the control dashboard for a NAS for my NAS with my hard drives with my data on them through a cloud interface? And the HXOS team heard that feedback and said, hey, before we go out of beta, we will have a local UI.

There are reasons that we had to do it this way first. But before we go out of beta, we will have a local UI and it's coming. The command deck remains our primary interface for initial setup and for remote access, but the local UI ensures you'll have access to the hexOS interface for system management even during command deck maintenance windows. This is a core component of our 1.0 release. So they're getting that going. John also asked me so very nicely.

So this is the only reason that I'm going to, oh, what? Got them. Well, whatever. They're hiring. They're apparently hiring, and I can't click this topic. so get wrecked, John. That's what happens. No, that's what happens.

You ask me to shout something out and you have a permissions issue, you get nothing. That's how it works. Sorry, John. All right, what else are we supposed to be talking about? Okay, let's talk about Logitech breaking these pop smart home buttons. I freaking hate this stuff.

And this is why it was so important to the community that, you know, HXOS not just be like, yeah no you know yeah someday we'll we'll have a local access you know option because it's not okay and they get it they 100% get it now but this is why people were but hurt about it because anything that relies on a cloud service doesn't belong to you very appropriately butt hurt logitech is emailing pop smart home users to inform them that as of october 15th five days from now yikes all logitech pop buttons and their associated hubs will lose all functionality. Can you talk about this last week?

I don't think so. Okay. Okay. Logitech emailed users on September 29th announcing the shutdown, giving users less than three weeks to do anything about it. As compensation, Logitech is offering

a 15% discount coupon for select Logitech products in the U.S. Can you think... They're a handyman just linked. They're, they're, Doc site has the cruise thinking you could read it. No, I won't.

They get nothing. That's pretty good. Can you think of a more insulting solution? Remember, we just talked about... Oh, it's trash. We just talked about how much of a discount, right, is probably still profitable. Do you remember that conversation? So they are offering you an opportunity for them to profit on a new purchase after they just fucked you.

What is this? Select products? You're not even going to let me buy any product I want? And why is it only in the U.S.? Select products? I didn't actually realize the selection of it. If it's not profitable at 15% off. Dude, what even is this? I can't buy that one. Like, a 15% discount is not an apology. That's like a, that's a, that's a retention marketing strategy. That's like, that's a mailing, mail out coupon.

This is wild. The pop system was launched in August 2016 to allow users to trigger smart home actions, Phillips Hughes, Sonos, etc. With a starter kit priced at $100 and individual add-on buttons at $40. Our discussion question is, how do you think Logitech could have better handled this situation? And what do you think is an appropriate end-of-life cycle for a piece of technology? Well, yeah, they could have handled this better. And the proper way to handle this is to open source it.

That's the only proper way to handle it at this point. And if you don't want to, because you're still using that stuff, maintain it. Yeah. Do you want to pick one? Sure. Ford. Do we do Ford? No, I'm going to scroll up.

There's stuff up here, right? Discussion on settlements. You want to do that? Yeah, we could do that. Sure. Discussion on settlements. This week on the LTT Reddit, a fan posted a story about how they received $1 of credit for a parking app that had data leak

back into 2021. In total, the attorneys for the case were paid $6.2 million. Seven class reps received 5K each, and the rest of the $31 million was paid out in $1 credits to the customers. But wait, there's more. The credit is actually $0.25 that has to be used

four times across four purchases. The notice of this compensation also came with notes about data security improvements, but ultimately stated that the company, Park Mobile, was never found liable for anything. Rather, the settlement was reached to allow the company to continue focusing on providing excellent service for its customers. If people don't claim credits or money or whatever it is from class action suits, what happens to the money? I'll be honest with you.

I don't know. I don't know. I assume the lawyers figure that out. so I assume it's helpful to the lawyers I literally do not know that though yeah not legal advice

yeah undiscussion question believable is it even worth the company to give out one dollar to its customers what's the point if they claim they aren't liable

uh well the point is that the lawyers get paid right what's the point to the company though if the company's saying that they're liable. If they just want the suit to end because they were spending so much money on legal. Yeah. Yeah. It just ends it. So, I mean, that's the point of any legal settlement is you either get so sick of litigating it and everyone's tired of it, so you just reach a settlement.

Or, oh, wanting to avoid a legal precedent is another reason that companies will often try to settle because if it goes to full trial, then now it's legal precedent. So now it could impact future cases whereas a settlement can't uh you might settle um and part of your condition for settling might be no admission of wrongdoing whereas if you don't settle and again it goes to a full trial then you will have to admit wrongdoing so there's there's a lot of different reasons that you might want to settle for sure if you think it's going to end up costing you even more than you might want to settle so there's at least like four reasons it's interesting that it's a credit for their own service.

I know, right? And I'm assuming that they make more than $0.25 per transaction. I would think so on parking. So again, it's just a profitable discount. It's not... The fact that they make you spread a $1 credit across four purchases is all the proof in the world that you could possibly need that the lawyers negotiating this on behalf of the people whose data was breached.

right do not care about any kind of data breach stuff like this is really interesting though because like this genuinely happens all the time and most of them don't go to class actions uh so that's yeah what does that even mean um like i used to check have i been poned like all the time not to like check my email see if i go poned right but just to see what's going on

and I like almost don't even bother anymore because it's just constant like look at these stats dude 15.11 billion poned accounts nice sheesh I sort by breach date there we go

oh look at all those from 2025 look at this scrollable list from 2025 Like this stuff is just all of the way. Does it like, when does it? There we go. It stops there finally. Float plane chats having a field day with this.

Donut 7-Eleven says, I got charged a 35 cent transaction fee in this app on free parking the other day. Also, this is great. Mavs guy 842 says the lawyers should get paid an app credit too. Yeah, they should have gotten $6.2 million in parking credit. right like if it's good enough if it's good enough for the people whose data was stolen why isn't it good enough for the lawyers

right I understand the lawyer's got to make money in these situations 6.2 million is crazy but then also like how many of them were there and how long did they work it and stuff like that because this said it happened back in 2021 right so like I don't know but then the payout is just so lame yeah and I get that stuff like this is

supposed to be punitive, right? But hold on a second, because they only actually paid $6.2 million plus another $35,000. The rest of the $31 million was in $1 credits that have to be used over four times parking. So that was that... I guarantee you their margin on those...

So what does that work out to? So $31 million times four. So we're talking about $124 million parking instances. At $0.25 discount each, they're going to make more than $6.2 million if people actually redeem the $31 million. So it's free real estate. Yeah, it really is. I really wonder what percentage of class action payouts are actually redeemed. I suspect it's surprisingly low because most of the time it's, um, they're such low payouts.

Yeah, this is a comically low one. I wouldn't bother for a dollar. Exactly. So what, what insane percentage of this? Okay, here, actually, this is kind of an interesting conversation. I'd love for you guys to kind of participate in this too. Give me, give me your line, okay? It's a dollar.

Okay, so whether it's an American, you know, a bill or it's a Canadian coin. You know what, let's assume it's an American bill. It's an American dollar. Okay, let's start with an easy one. It's stuck to the bottom of your shoe. Do you pick it up? Yeah. Okay, of course.

You put it in your wallet. Yeah. Okay. It is, it is, you are walking down the sidewalk. Yep. and it is on the grass to the side of the sidewalk. For sure. Okay, for sure.

Okay. It is laying over... Actually, no, here's an easier one. It's in a tree. Yeah. And you have to pull yourself up a branch in order to reach it. Definitely. Okay.

It's on a storm drain, kind of hanging over one of the grates, and it's wet. Yes. Okay. it is on the floor of a bathroom it's American too right escalated quickly it's an American dollar a dollar 40 cloth aren't they it's a dollar 40 the Canadian ones are plastic they're cotton so they're cotton they're cotton baby so I want you I want you guys I want you guys participating I want you guys participating I will

leave the feces dollar okay what if it's just a urine dollar I would leave the urine dollar it's caught it's it's a cotton bill let's say it's not okay hold on oh we're gonna find his line we're gonna find his line we're gonna find his line it's not near the urinal okay it's by the it's by the door it's by the door i have seen what people do to bathrooms brother okay forget the bathroom forget the bathroom okay it is i'm leaving that one the heck alone okay okay it's on the floor of a commercial kitchen near where they cook man it varies like a lot depending on the kitchen church is chicken no i'll leave that one alone okay okay hold on hold on

let me let me try to think i want to try and nail this down because the bathroom really did feel like a big escalation the bathroom is a pretty big i was kind of hope i was kind of hoping oh okay okay okay here's one have you guys worked in commercial kitchens there's a reason why they have so many rats Anyways Okay It's not a public bathroom now It's the bathroom at your parents' house Oh yeah sure

Okay so that's fine Yeah So that's the line then Okay There's an enormous gap Between most people's Home bathrooms Let alone my parents

And a public bathroom Sure Oh That's some bad experiences On some recent trips Okay Oh here's an interesting one Okay

So back to the one That was on the grass and there's there's a dog turd near it. Near it? Near it's fine. But it's windy. It's still probably fine. So you don't know for sure that it didn't touch the dog turd.

It's downwind of the dog turd, but not by much. It's still probably okay. If there's no visible mark. So do you check it before you pick it up? Yeah, but like as I'm walking up to it, I'm not, yeah. Okay, so you intend to pick it up and you're going to, to look for a skid mark on your dollar bill yeah okay if there's a skid mark that thing ain't moving okay got it got it got it okay i think we i think we've found your line basically as long as it's

clean i was expecting you to do more on the like having to do work to get to it well i was just gonna keep saying yeah i kind of figured i wasn't getting anywhere with that it just makes it a game and then it's fun it's not even about the dollar anymore it's just okay there's a goal can i accomplish goal sure that's the interest so that so that whatever when it gets to like is this dollar a health risk it's like yeah okay how about this though so you are in a hurry okay okay you're you are you're in enough of a hurry that you are that you are jogging oh okay it's on the other side of the street there's no cars no uh you're you're going this way and that way you're you're gonna you're gonna go to the next intersection you're gonna go right it's on the

left side of the street. There are hurries that are not that big of a hurry that I will jog for. So it still kind of depends. You're on your trip to, your last trip to Germany. No, I don't get it.

Okay, so there's the line. Anything to do with human or animal waste is a no-go. Yep. And there are definitely kitchens. There are definitely commercial kitchens where I'd pick it up off the ground.

There are also very disgusting commercial kitchens. And then, and then out of the way is fine as long as I was already playing Pokemon Go anyway. Yeah. The point is to walk. So yeah, sure, whatever. I don't care. Got it.

Okay, okay. Yeah. And I have done things where, like, there is an incredibly minor gain for this, like, incredibly long amount of walking that I could do. And I'll just be like, yeah, sure. Oh, man. Trick killer here says, when I was a teenager, we used to put dollar bills in the horse manure at the Minnesota State Fair.

and then watch to see who picks it up. Absolutely deranged. That is sociopathic. That is just classic teenager activities. I mean, look, like, this is coming from someone who literally had, like, horse-turdy fights in the riding ring with my siblings. So, like, whatever. Like, I'm not, I'm not judging.

I mean, that's the thing. I think that's more accurate teenager activity. If one person throws one. You got to throw back. I mean, it's good. And to be clear. I'm talking like the dried out the dried out ones which is

very different from it really is the fresh ones it really is very different Luca 103 says I'm sorry what tell me that you never lived on a farm without telling me you never lived on a farm poop poop made of grass is not that gross it doesn't smell

that bad it doesn't like yeah they also do actually really turn into throwable balls they really do like it's yeah they really do It's Austin Blitz says it's poop though You get a little desensitized to it Yeah

You shovel enough of it Like literally I probably have shoveled Thousands of pounds of horse poo It's like yeah what Yeah It's poop Part of life you know

And like the difference Between vegetarian animal poop And like Carnivore animal poop a whole world A whole world of difference Yeah I don't know

Maybe that's the kind of thing I shouldn't admit But I'm in my I'm in my zero Fis given phase That had a poop fight Whatever I don't know I think it's great

Someone's gonna find a way To turn it into something I mean There's you know There's always there's always something You were saying I'm a scatman I'm a scatman No I haven't

you don't know that whoa do you please tell me you know what I'm talking about he's cool yeah rest in peace oh wait what really yeah oh all right well that was a downer

thanks man that sucks glad we brought you out of your focus zone to do that cool what do we want to talk about next ah yes the Oh wow, like a while ago Okay

Qualcomm Acquires Arduino Qualcomm known for developing mobile chips Such as the Snapdragon series And many more Has acquired microcontroller manufacturer Arduino for an undisclosed sum How are you feeling about this?

Okay, I love to look on your face there Qualcomm states that by acquiring Arduino this will allow them to deliver a full stack edge platform which is a fancy way of saying local AI Jeff Gehrling posted a short

five minute video talking about this and some concerns like commitment to open source and education spaces which were like a huge thing with Arduino that's how people primarily talked about when they first showed up

was the education spaces stuff well hey I mean Qualcomm is really well known for sorry I can't I can't finish that sentence. I mean, here's the problem. The problem with something getting acquired for money by someone who expects a return on said money

is that whatever money it was making now was clearly not enough for whoever was making money with it now, so whoever's going to acquire it is often, but not always, often, highly financially motivated to make it make more money. Yeah, that's kind of the point. Private equity. This isn't private equity, but private equity, ugh.

I mean, at a, oh, that's an interesting conversation. At what point is it private equity? At what point does a large enough conglomerate start to essentially function like private equity in terms of the impact that it has on the companies that it acquires? I mean, there's no, I don't think that, you know, what's happened with Activision Blizzard for Microsoft acquiring them would have been any different if private equity acquired them. Like, I don't really, I don't really see the difference at that point. Yeah.

Well, we'll see how that goes. Screwdriver? Sure, why not? Prusa and LTT screwdriver video? Prusa posted a nine-minute video. talking about the development of the LTT screwdriver. Wait, that was Prusa. I saw this in my feed.

I didn't realize it was Prusa. Huh. Cool. Yeah. Talking about everything from handle design to Linus spontaneously saying he wanted the screwdriver to be orange. Spontaneously saying that? I don't know. Wasn't that the goal forever?

I don't know. That's what Kyle says. He says, I couldn't, I couldn't, uh, I couldn't contain my excitement. I, I haven't actually watched this, so I have no idea what other, uh, what other things. Of course, who's supposed to be orange? Uh, I don't actually necessarily know that for sure. Because, yeah, the, the snap on one that I used before was orange. And orange comes, the company color was orange and black.

Part of our branding, but we also did an all black screwdriver right from the very start. I, I literally do not remember. It's possible he remembers this better than I do. The screwdriver not having some orange on it would be the primary standard one, not having some orange on it would be weird. I really don't remember. I got to be completely honest with you.

I wasn't involved at all, so I have no idea. But yeah, that's awesome. Hypothetical world, where would LTT be today if there was no screwdriver? Exactly where it is, probably but maybe a little smaller yeah maybe maybe a little smaller the screwdriver was a very most excellent um product launch for us and uh continues to sell extremely well on the store i think we're i think we're well over half a million screwdrivers now which is like i have had one interaction

where someone had no idea what the channel was or anything but i was talking about what i do and then they were like wait the screwdriver that has happened really so they just only know us by the screwdriver yeah well they i guess someone in their life probably knew the channel right and told them about the screwdriver and they were like okay well it's very giftable try it out or got gifted or something i don't know what yeah um and then they liked the screwdriver a bunch so they knew the screwdriver but they didn't they don't care about computers or anything right like fair enough yeah whatever i mean they were like nice screwdriver it's like okay cool They like it

They use it all time Sweet Couldn't give the slightest crap about anything else going on But pretty stoked on the screwdriver Nice You know what I'm not stoked on Ford Ford is locking basic navigation

And more behind a subscription Who could have seen this coming Could anyone Possibly have seen this coming. I mean, oh, dude, I was, uh, someone, someone posted on the subreddit that, uh, Chevy is announcing a new bolt and that surely Linus would be talking about this on WAN show. And I was like, okay, first of all, it's a bolt not a vault. Yes, that's the first thing I was going to say. I never cared about the bolt. The bolt was an entry level EV, which is like, fine. But what

excited me was the Volt, the plug-in hybrid, back when plug-in hybrids weren't trendy and cool yet, I took a bunch of flack for talking about how cool they were and now everyone knows they're cool they're so cool they really are cool

they're so cool I loved the Volt there is no new Volt it's still bolt or the new one is bolt whatever the point is 2

GM doesn't support Android Auto and CarPlay anymore they've gone the Rivian Tesla route and I gotta be honest man like I

I still can think the cars are cool I'll be like, yeah, if this suits your needs, I wouldn't judge you in any way for buying one. But you're going to have to pry my money from my cold, dead hands before I buy a car that doesn't support me just plugging in my phone and using all my crap that I'm already logged into and all the data tracking that is already happening anyway, because I need this in my pocket, anyway. I am not signing into your additional platform and using your additional separate apps. I am not

going to do it. I won't. So GM can make all the bolts and volts and Schultz and Schultz and Maltz. I don't care. They can make anything they want. And they will not get my money from me because they have

made a decision that I fundamentally disagree with. Because it unlocks this bullshit because all of a sudden now you control the platform and all the other subscriptions

that I already have in my life can't just be plugged into my car which I expect to just fucking own once I pay that kind of money for it no I own my car

I like my car a lot the car is great I got a new car oh what I'm daily driving a Prius no correct roller different Toyota doesn't even know

I have a new car what is it I don't know it's the it's the one that we hooked up the comma AI self-driving so are you trying to like daily comma AI or something yeah so it's it's going to be a really different kind of video for our channel I have no idea if people are going to be into it I don't know if it's going to cut together very well I don't know but I get in the car we have like three or four webcams in there

or if not webcams, dash cams. So we have two angles of me, one that's like just me and one that's like me and the passenger. We have an angle showing the comma AI, and I think there might be one more angle. I can't remember what it is. And then we put a microphone on the passenger sunshade,

just like a little shotgun mic pointing at me. And every time I get in the car, I'm supposed to turn on the audio recording. The video rolls automatically. And then I'm just supposed to like, If anything interesting happens, I do like an audio mark for the editor and then I talk about it and we're going to cut it together and I daily drove a DIY self-driving. I mean, it's not really self-driving. It's an advanced driver's feature. But I mean, certain companies might call it self-driving. So why can't I? I saw your car parked somewhere the other day. Yeah. Your actual car. Yeah. Take it. Well, yeah, that one. And was genuinely confused.

because I was like, where is he? Yeah. And now this makes actually a lot more sense. Because I was like, I was the last person to leave the place and I was locking everything up. And then your car was there. And I was like, what? I was actually concerned. I like locked you inside.

Oh, yeah, no, I'm good. Yeah, I'm driving, I'm driving the corolla. I, uh, I, I like my car. No, I love my car. It's great. It doesn't, it's not life changing. This is why I love my car so much. Yeah.

It's been paid off for so long, and I get inside, and it's comfortable. Yeah, the curl is all right. And it gets me where I need to go. Oh, no, I don't have Google Maps. Oh, my phone's sitting on the dash. I suddenly have Google Maps. Wow. Crazy feature.

It turns out I'm still not really much of a car guy. I like cool cars. I don't not like them. I just think it's a lot of money. and it is it's it's it's a fun party trick like driving a rocket ship to not want to spend like decent nice new cars are so expensive I don't want to spend like 60 grand on a new version of my car

how much is a 60 grand that doesn't even include your subscription a Reddit user on the LTT subreddit shared a photo of their truck requiring them to pay a 120 Canadian dollar a year add-on fee to get full use of their car's navigation system. It's not the only subscription that you need to get full access to your Ford trucks features. Their blue cruise, hands-free highway driving assistance will cost you $500 US a year

or $2,500 one time for a lifetime access, which they indicate could actually be only seven years of the service. This is the comment here. Who is this? This is David. That's a deal breaker, ladies. some other examples of car sub bullshit BMW has heated seats locked behind a subscription Mercedes has actual car performance

locked behind a subscription okay I've talked about this one that one I actually don't necessarily mind as much because there can be wear and tear impacts on pushing hardware harder whether it's an electric

whether it's a gas vehicle there could be an actual cost associated with unlocking that extra performance in terms of like warranty service over time that one could potentially maybe be justified heated seats that are just already there i object to far more also a navigation system that doesn't work is like what even is a car in current year that doesn't have a navigation system you've got to be kidding me Anyway, Tesla has their media capabilities behind such a subscription. Toyota has remote start on vehicles three years older or more on a subscription, and a ton have over-the-air UI updates locked behind subscriptions.

GM stated, ha, ha, we've, GM, the one that remember I was just talking about, how I'm not interested in their not having Android Auto or CarPlay bullshit, GM stated that it earned more than $2 billion in 2021 via in-car subscription. subscriptions and yeah i that's exactly why they don't do it like they did in the vault anymore dude the vault is like my part it was like the goldilocks zone what was that car 2017 i think it's great it has it has a big enough screen that you can totally make out where you're going it supports android auto and car play it never got any like ended production 2019 so yours being 2017 sounds pretty accurate i think mine's a 2017 um it doesn't really get any ota updates or

anything but it doesn't need them because i can plug my phone into it forever and have all the features i could possibly want people love these dude what 2019 Chevrolet volt car and driver this is american prices used dude well yeah it's because it's like a god tier car It's awesome. That's wicked. No, I'm not even like, that's cool. I'm not even down talking it. Dude, I took.

And I get it. I took so much flack for that take back then. Like, it was a major factor in me just being like, hey, I don't think I'm going to, I don't think I'm going to push that hard into doing more car reviews on LTT. Because I took so much shit for being like, this is a really great car. Did you throw it? Throw the car. No, the...

The... Oh. Just damn. Did you start whipping it back at people? Or did you lose your youthfulness? I just got frustrated. With them throwing feces at you? What?

Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Doesn't taste good. Thought it was food. Oh, no. Oh, no. That never happened.

Oh, no. Yeah, this sucks. All of this sucks. All of it sucks. Boo. Stop doing it. Discussion question. In that same statement, GM stated that I accidentally minimized this topic.

GM stated that customers are willing to spend $135 a month on average for the right mix of in-car products and services. Nope. No, I don't think I am. Stuff it. I'm not at all. I will pay you nothing. My subscription, like my included with purchase subscriptions in my Taekan expired last month, and I don't even know what they were.

Because to me, a feature of a vehicle that is not just part of it and that requires a subscription doesn't exist. So I have literally never used them because the last thing I want is to get used to using something that I know I'm going to have to pay monthly for later. Like, no. the only problem my car's had in years happened somewhat recently some air got in the brake line

still works perfectly fine just like should probably get it tuned up eventually somebody with a trailer pulled out in front of me today when I was driving to work and at the red light their trailer brakes were not working and their trailer was blocking their brake lights so when they went to go stop

I didn't realize there was a car in front of them as well so they stopped way earlier than I expected and I couldn't see their lights so I ended up slamming on my brakes in order to not hit them and that somehow fixed the air in the lines so my car fixed itself thanks Honda

sick I would just stop at the next light I was like wait what the heck it was awesome that is not okay yeah I'll go get it checked out but it did actually fix itself so I don't know.

I don't know if, like, brake slamming just shocked the line and the air came out or something. I don't know, but I will get it checked out. Dude, takans are crazy, crazy affordable if you wait for the right deal these days. Whoa. Why is that so much cheaper than the one? Is it the TurboS part? They have, oh, yes. TurboS is the, like, top spec one and is quite a bit more expensive, but I mean, I don't know.

here's one for 75 thousand dollars. I know guys I'm taking it in I literally have an appointment from like uh that I planned like a week ago it's fine don't worry but yeah my goodness um dude my car is depreciated so much it's fine though you bought a luxury electric car yeah what do you expect I expect to enjoy driving my luxury electric car except when I drive my corolla which honestly is kind of fine too is really cool it's the more i drive it the more clear it is that it's really though only useful in a straight line like yeah it doesn't do anything other than really lane keep assist and auto start stop but to its credit i had a really cool experience with it this morning i um i was stopped in the left hand turning lane sorry coming down uh coming down highway 15 is that is that the one that that comes down from the Trans-Canada Highway to the office area? Is it a highway 15?

I think so? I think so. Yeah. So I'm coming down Highway 15 and then I'm turning left onto Fraser Highway. You know the one, right? Okay. So there's your two lanes going straight, and then there's your two turning lanes. So there's all that construction there for the SkyTrain right now.

So I'm in the rightmost of the left turning lanes. So if I was numbering them from left to right, I'm in lane two. Okay. So there's two lights for the straight lanes. those are kind of in front of me here and then there's two lights for the left turning lane there's one kind of here and then there's one like way over here and so I was sitting there I was at the front

and I was like what's going to happen when the straight green lights turn green is it going to rip me into the intersection because a beta feature I think it's still in beta actually have not checked but it was in beta back when we did our first impressions a feature that I think is in beta of the comma AI is green and red light detection

so it should theoretically automatically stop for a red light and start once the light turns green it didn't go when the straight greens went it didn't go I don't actually recall if it went when the left turning lights went

I just have to check the footage but yeah I was pretty impressed that is pretty good actually that's quite a niche case however let's talk about yellow lights it slows down it seems to kind of treat them like caution but it doesn't treat them like caution this will turn red maybe it treats them like

caution maybe it will turn red maybe it could turn green again maybe it has location services and knows you're in bc uh it's a joke because bc drivers red means stop green means go yellow means go faster go faster but head on a swivel but go faster oh god they just knew where you were they're trying to keep you fitting in with the locals yeah well yeah Microsoft has promised

more Xbox hardware is still on the way despite low sales numbers for their hardware and the canned Xbox handheld that is rumored to be because AMD required a guarantee that they would sell at least 10 million units Microsoft has assured gamers that future first-party consoles and devices

are still being designed, engineered, and built by Xbox. They have pointed to the multi-year partnership that they entered with AMD earlier this year. With that said, it still looks like their main focus remains on GamePass with rumors of a free ad-supported tier of streaming-only GamePass on the horizon. Okay, I can see from your face,

but hold on a second, hold on a second. Okay, we have a video coming soon about the state of Xbox that you should keep an eye out for. I actually filmed my part of it today. And I want to talk about ad-supported free streaming-only game paths. Luke, would you like to translate that look on your face into words? Do you have words? Mostly sadness, I think. Because you were a bit of an Xbox, like, boy.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Original Xbox Xbox Xbox 360. were a huge deal. Loved both of those consoles. Absolutely loved both those consoles. Just seeing either one of them immediately brings me joy. Like fantastic pieces of equipment.

They really fell off the rails in a big way immediately after the 360. And I think never got it back. The unhappy face isn't this honestly, it just feels like, and it's Microsoft again. it feels like the same take that I have with Windows, which it's just been so long now of just junk. The original Xbox and Xbox 360 were an amazing value prop, came with incredible exclusives, fantastic games,

fantastic hardware, great experience, and then it just went and never came back. So like them not making... Yeah, what were the like bangers on the Xbox? I don't know when did gears hit was that three no that was 360 right yeah no yeah Xbox one was Gears of War one right no oh no that was three six original gears war was either 360 or the

original one oh no it wasn't original Xbox I don't think yeah so I'm pretty sure it's 360 then Titanfall two says Mav okay okay multi-platform yeah yeah Gears of War was 360 Halo 2 No, no, no, no People are just naming stuff That was on the old versions Halo 2 was playable In the original Xbox

But primarily came out for the 360 It was really designed for the 360 But it was playable in the original Xbox If I remember correctly Or maybe we just got our internet The module thing late, I don't know What was killer for Xbox 1? I'm trying to even remember the Xbox 1

Did anybody care about the Xbox 1? Yeah. Gears 4 to 5 on the Xbox 1 Halo 5 Guardians Gears 5 4za No man Fable 1 was like OG Xbox That wasn't Xbox 1

Fantastic game but old So like this is Downhill What year did the Yeah Red Dead 2 is cross platforms So that's not going to fly Yeah that's not going to work at all 2013 wow right around the time that windows started getting really terrible as well interesting

I don't know what changed that I genuinely don't I'm not I'm not actually alluding to anything it's just interesting that the timelines are similar when did Bill Gates step down way before that didn't he well yeah but I mean it takes a long time for the pipeline that's fair but I think it was like way way before that step down as CEO I'm just I'm just curious I'm not saying that he was like a great leader or whatever 2000 he stepped down it's kind of so that was way way way way, way, way, way before. All right. What are you talking about? Yeah, okay.

So, but my actual, like, sadness here wasn't about the Xbox hardware thing, because, in my opinion, that's been dead for 12 years. Right. So, I already kind of moved on from Xbox hardware. The thing that I like about Xbox hardware is the controllers now. I would be really sad if they stopped making controllers, and it impacts my life literally not at all that they stopped making consoles, despite being like, as you said, an Xbox boy.

Right. Because they just completely lost me. Which sucks. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good reason to game on an Xbox. The cheap hardware was one. It's not that cheap anymore. Like the prices. Didn't they increase the price recently for the same console?

Like, when does that happen? Remember when mid-cycle consoles would maybe go down in price? Do you remember that? go down or you'd get like slim versions or whatever or they'd start coming with bundled games and like extra controllers like there'd be cool variants like value add translucent purple yeah yeah yeah yeah that's crazy though who would do that with their screwdriver i what huh that's crazy that is crazy that's crazy that is crazy indeed um yeah so it's like the the thing that i'm sad about here and i know I'm going to catch flack for this,

but the thing that I'm sad about here is the, uh, you can play the games for free with ads. So you think that's bad. That, why do you think that's bad? It is a stepping stone, in my opinion.

I mean, is it... To even more increasingly annoying things. Is it any different from what we already have in like microtransaction hell? I think it's just progressive. I mean, I mean,

it's basically just mobile. gaming then. This is my point. Oh, I see. Okay. So you're just like, okay, well, and then ads will start being made with this in mind. Sorry, games will start being made. I mean, same deal, unfortunately. Games will start being made with this in mind. But, like, mobile games don't need to be as bad as they are. They have the hardware. They have the performance to make them better. They don't on purpose. The ad supported tier in mobile games, though, is just to get you going

on to the microtransactions. Yeah. And PC games are already made for my which is why it just feels progressive it's like we skipped stage two cancer and we went straight to stage four like i don't really i don't think we even skipped stage two or three i think we did them well when did we have ad supported games on pc like if you're saying like ads like i'm saying ad supported is like is like one of the stages we went through to get to in a few games there are already games that have funding from ads yeah just in in in very alternative ways this This is the most blatant. Because there's already been like paid billboard ads.

There's even been games that have the ads in them update over time. Okay, tell me this. If the idea is that the ad supports the streaming of the game, then the game developer isn't really being incentivized in any way to put ads in the game itself. And it's a source of revenue that is completely separate from any kind of micro-transaction. But you don't know how the revenue sharing. is happening. That's true.

If your game gets more ad views, it would make a lot of sense. It would make a lot of sense. It would make a lot of things getting like super grinding. So what I was saying was that I'm worried about games being made with this in mind because the same thing happened with microtransactions. When microtransactions came in, cool cosmetics for accomplishing cool things went away. Went away.

Yeah. When micro transactions came in, fun cheat codes went away. I've had an intrusive thought. You know how many loading zones there are? in Starfield this is my point ad break yeah

so like just the fact that that mechanism in there is there concerns me you understand streamer economy it can't just be free

ads make sense to make it cheap that's fully understand that that's not the point at all the point is the perverse incentive

that happens to the developers right because now they would be incentivized. I'm assuming if your game plays way more ads than other people's games, you're going to get more money.

I don't know when the ads play. I don't know if it's during the game. It can just be like in the middle of lining up a headshot. No. Obviously. So it has to be at some kind of a natural break. It could be that you can't launch the game until you play a certain amount of ads or something.

Right. I don't know. But I'm sure that starting with playing a bunch of ads and then the game going, will turn into playing a bunch of ads and then in between rounds could turn into whatever This is the sadness

I see Okay I think gaming was better When you owned less games Because you bought them I don't think having access to 700 games Made my life better when I had an Xbox and I had like five games it was great

and that was totally fine and I bought them and there wasn't ads and there wasn't my good transactions and it was fantastic I don't need infinite game on game pass for free but I have to watch ads I don't want that but you can also afford regular game pass or just buying games even when I couldn't I preferred it I would just have less games like I said when I had just like a few games in an Xbox when my brother and I had to go do random chores and odd jobs around the neighborhood to be able to afford a Super Nintendo even when like the N64 was out, whatever. I preferred the fewer games that I had that

did not have the ads. That is nostalgia talking. It aggressively is not and I promise you. That is not at all what's happening. Yeah, you don't know this man. I promise you that is not the case. it's genuinely not rose-tinted glasses looking at the past it is actually not that that is not the case whatsoever it is a degradation of of gaming quality i loved uh that tons of games used to come with cheat codes that just made the game fun and silly i um loved games being more contained compartmentalized experiences i loved doing weird things in game and getting rewarded with like cool things fancy stuff instead of most of the cool stuff being locked behind uh cosmetics that you buy in a store and if you don't think that's happening you're nuts basically what luke misses is the dopamine hit being because you did something yeah rather than the dopamine hit being because you paid yeah yeah and even if you're like oh those mechanisms are still there they're not prioritized well yeah because it's way more profitable to prioritize giving you a dopamine hit for watching an ad or

giving you a dopamine hit for paying money and it's such an incredibly powerful force and again if you don't think it is you're probably just being manipulated sorry wow dropping truth bombs are you is what it is are you are you going to like you know warn them to get to an evax zone before you drop truth bombs like that nope nope our discussion here is actually kind of unrelated uh why is the steam deck considered such a huge success when it's rumored to have sold somewhere in the neighborhood of around 5 million units p.s. Vida sold 10 to 15 million units we you sold about 13 million and both are considered to be historic bombs. I actually think I have a good answer if you don't have one ready but I was curious to hear your take. First I have a couple

angles. I'm going to go with expectations. Yeah. The expectations for Linux gaming was that it was just never going to happen. And I don't mean the optimists. They thought Linux gaming had already happened. And for them it had. But for the rest of the world, for like, you know, my nephew, it hadn't happened. Steam Deck made that happen. guarantee you there are more people gaming on a steam deck right now than there were cumulatively ever before that on Linux like huge millions of units is is incredible for like gaming on Linux um so what that what that and it's also like it's also their first crack at it so it's a data

point, right? Whereas the Wii U and the PSVita, they were data points that took a sales trend and went like this with it. The Steam Deck is a sales trend that is at the very beginning that most external analysts thought would be a failure. And that we think is probably going to go like this. It was a keyword. Right? It's probably going to go like this. So it's extremely exciting. Reason number two that the Steam Deck is considered a success is that the PSVita and the Wii U had very limited game libraries. The Wii U did have some bangers, but a lot of those bangers ended up selling big on the Switch. Yeah. They didn't end up selling big, or on the Wii, right? Like, that's true. They ended up selling on the consoles that were on either side of

the Wii U. And yeah, the PSVita had some bang. too. But when you compare that to the Steam deck, Valve's business model is to take 30% of every flipping game on Steam. And the Steam deck is such an enabler of more hours spent gaming. I guarantee you that the economics of the Steam deck have worked out way better for Valve than the PSVita or the Wii you ever did for Sony or for Nintendo. So those are my two main arguments is expectations and sort of future opportunity that is unlocked by the steam deck compared to those other two and also the ability to attach software to it is like I have literally bought games that I go I would never play this game except that I'm going to be stuck somewhere with only a handheld

and it's a perfect game to play on my handheld like I would never play vampire survivors on my desktop. Never. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't touch that game on my desktop, not because it's a bad game. I probably have like 30 hours in it, 35 hours in it, but it's all on my ally, all of it. It's just, it's a mobile game for me. It's like, I have 10 minutes. Yeah, I'll just fire up vampire survivors. Yeah, my, my main thing was expectations. The other one was highly related to your other comment of like the future stuff because the 13 million Wii U sold were sold to a bunch of people that

I don't know weren't super enthusiastic I guess I liked my Wii a lot actually but most people that I knew that got one were like eh it's kind of a Wii and but your big thing was Mario Kart you played the crap out of Mario Card 8 was incredible if Mario Kart 8 didn't exist

I don't think I would look back on the Wii at nearly as positively. There were cool things about it, but really it was a Mario Kart 8 machine. So if you really loved Mario Kart 8, the Wii U was a banger of a console. Yeah, but if not. Or like that cool four-player side-scroller.

This is the reason why it would still look good to me because I think it was Mario Brothers Wii U. Something like that. Mario Brothers You, that's what it was. You could play four characters playing the actual side scrolling game and then you had one like kind of god mode character that could like put down little platforms for them

which ultimately turned into as someone was jumping you put down a platform in their way so that they smack into it and fall down you troll your friends that was really fun the actual like unique controller tablet thing was actually really cool

but anyways the the buyers of the switch the Steam deck not the switch are like really into it. Like I see a surprising amount of them on planes. Oh, yeah. All the time.

Oh, yeah. And there's that like, wait, what's that? And maybe that person who asked that question isn't going to buy it now because it's like kind of two years old at this point, whatever. Three and a half. Three and a half, sure. Wow, that's, wow, it's been a while. But they might get interested in other handhelds.

They might wait for the next one, whatever. But it's that first one that doesn't necessarily. sell as crazy as it could just because it wasn't as known and it's quite a daring piece of technology to put out there like my goodness especially with um steamOS but the i suspect the next one will do even better i heard back from dave um um the holidays sorry so uh yeah sorry mr calls we do have time to try between Black Friday and Boxing Day plan was to hold out until the holiday promotions

are over to minimize stacking discounted cards on additional discounted offers yes so that was my understanding too but apparently we ran it now anyway we'll be tracking redemptions to see how customers spend the cards over time

okay uh well hope you wanted a cash injection? Nope. I'm okay right now. I was, uh... Well, I don't know what to say that. All I've managed to do today was take a 10% bite out of what was going to be the Black Friday cash injection.

Yeah. Oh, whatever. You know what? Merry Christmas. Yeah, they'll be fine. They already got everything. Who cares? Speaking of not having everything,

South Korean government loses 858 terabytes of data in fire. Whoa. A battery fire on September 26th consisted of 384 battery packs resulted in the destruction of 96 government computer systems, while 95 of those systems did have some form of backup. One system known as the G drive,

G meaning government, not Google, reportedly couldn't Okay. Have a backup system due to its large capacity. Couldn't is a big word. That's not true. Rendering all 858 terabytes completely gone. G drive was used by staff to store documents

and allocated 30 gigabytes of space per public official. So it's all their like personal stuff. Oh no. That's brutal. The Ministry of the Interior and Safety originally issued guidelines that all work materials should be stored on the G drive. Wow. That's nuts.

As for the other 95 computers that did have backups, only 62% were backed up daily with the remaining 38% backed up monthly. That's a big jump, leaving additional data loss concerns. Oh, so there's more than 858 terabytes lost. Nice. Wow. Overall, the fire impacted government email, online postal services, petition services, and the National 119 Emergency Service.

I don't actually know why everyone uses different ones. 119 feels very inspired by 911. That's a very North America centric point of view. How do you know 911 wasn't inspired by 119? Telephone. Prove it. Who made telephone? It was probably the way that I described.

I can't guarantee that, but I'm just guessing. What emergency services number was first? Okay, A-I-Go. 9-99. Wow. Wrecked. Sure. Why don't we all just use that?

Absolutely wrecked. Sure. Well, okay. That doesn't actually prove any point. Reckinated. That doesn't prove any point. You're talking like, you're sounding like someone who was wrecked. That doesn't prove any point.

You sound like someone who doesn't know. That doesn't point. Prove any point at all. it proves that 911 is not the right one sure so 911 should be 999 sure and 119 should just also be 999 sure why does it change 999 was a bad first choice yeah I kind of think you should change it at least once 999 was for rotary phones oh that's interesting but that would take too long yeah would take a really long time uh yeah okay I mean some kids still good debate 119 versus 911 no i don't think i need to uh anyways yeah moving on so it was more

than 858 terabytes that they lost um since the incident one employee involved in the data recovery process has taken their own life yeah themselves four other individuals have been arrested and are actively being investigated on whether professional negligence may be have contributed to the fire honestly blaming the employees at this point is least based thing that you could possibly do. I think it's time to just own the responsibility that you didn't feel like spending another

100 grand on another petabyte of data to have a second copy of this stuff. And, uh, wow. The South Korean government has reported a recovery rate of only 17.8%. Oh, with a full recovery expected

to take a month. How are they possibly hoping to get a full recovery of this if it burned down and there wasn't a backup? that just sounds like nonsense i mean i'll be honest with you maybe they mean no there's no way as someone as someone who has lost data from a petabyte project it was a very conscious decision i made the decision fully understanding that i wasn't backing up this data to not back it up based on cost that was the only reason that we didn't back it up because that data was not essential So it was all archived projects

And I didn't feel like Spending money on it So to hear anything other than We didn't back this up because we didn't feel like spending money on it Is horse shit And I throw it at you I have no I have no idea on the legitimacy of this

But it's Mollets in flipping chat Said the fire also happened on the same day Investigation was supposed to start On corruption related things Oh okay so there's more to it maybe i i don't know that's not from our notes i have no idea but if you're oh no ney says they did have two copies on the same system in the same data center you knew what i meant nay nay all right are we talking about oh wait have we

finished sponsors yet thing no uh no we have one topic left so we should probably probably do those right now. Yeah, I won't. And then we can talk about the steam machine after that. Oh, okay. Once I get it back together. YouTube, no longer permabands people. It used to be that YouTube took steps. Wait, shouldn't we do the sponsors? I thought you wanted to do a topic. We have to do the sponsors so that we have one topic left after that. They'll have After Dark after that. So we do sponsors and then After Dark? Yeah. After Dark is great. People love After Dark. They'll stay for After Dark. Okay, sure. It's the best part of the show.

Yeah. I just, I just force my way through the rest of it. I only like after tart. Pretty much. I'm kidding. We have to wade through the topic

so we can get to the real juice. Anyway, so it used to be that YouTube would permaband you and then you were permaband and they took steps to prevent you from creating a new account. Well, now YouTube believes

in second chances. our long-held approach of enforcing lifetime terminations can be difficult for creators blah blah blah blah appeals starting today some previously terminated creators will have the opportunity

to request a new YouTube channel this is a fresh start you can re-upload any of your prior videos that are within our community guidelines how will you decide who gets a new channel oh god man there's some stuff that just like that's heavy there's people that really should not be let back on the platform.

100%. Whether the creator committed particularly severe or persistent violations, whether the creator's on or off platform activity harmed or may continue to harm the YouTube community, like channels that endanger kids' safety, that's good. Not everybody seems

to be that concerned with holding accountable people who endanger kids safety. There's some files, I think, that there's probably some people are hoping would burn down in a government data center fire but uh i don't know at some point yeah we should probably release those files all of them every single part should release all of them yeah um don't leave anything out what about

monetization you can apply for it okay man i'm i'm having real mixed feelings on this i feel like having this be like at our discretion maybe some people will maybe be allowed is a huge can of worms and i just don't understand why they would open it up because if they don't let someone back they're making like because everything's everything's polarized now if they don't let someone back

they are making a specific judgment about that specific individual and if they do allow someone back they're making a specific judgment about that specific individual like there was this one of the first channels that I was aware of being banned

probably wasn't the first channel to ever be banned but it was it was a big channel and it getting banned was like kind of a big deal was this channel called david's farm and it was kind of a lot of what it sounds like just like uh you know it was one a very early like farming youtube sure channel but there was like very unsafe very disgusting animal cruelty stuff that happened oh and just egregious violations of you know anything that would be considered remotely acceptable for upload to

YouTube and I'm sitting here going like would they let someone who content warning extremely graphic description incoming so mute your mic for a second and I'm a go like this when it's safe mute your mic your headphones yeah like this is a channel

that took a live pig pinned it down and chainsawed it in half while alive safe now um why that that is a person that clearly is disturbed in the head

um and does not need to share anything they have to say with anybody sorry that's I'm standing by that um um um you know

so if I see something like that come back I'm sitting here going no, Lifetime ban was the right kind of ban, you know? I don't know, dude. Like, that is, like, that's just, it's monstrous, you know? Yeah, there's a lot of people saying that it has to do with Trump's ban. So, oh, so this is just a policy to have something to point at when they violate what previously would have been the policy

and reinstate an account? You think it's that simple? They're just... It might be. I just, I've seen some comments about this. I have no idea. Where's the my thing? We don't have any notes on that.

I don't know anything about it. I thought Trump's ban was overturned like quite a while ago. But like you said, maybe it's just something to point to now. No idea. Interesting. I honestly didn't even know he was banned off YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah, it was after the

January 16th. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, but he was reinstated in 2023. Yeah, I don't know. So, who knows? Yeah.

Moon pies. What a time to be alive. It's going to be after dark in a minute. Let's get through a couple more slats. That sounds like two minute papers. I mean, what? What a paper?

Time to be alive. I love that man. What do you want? This. Yeah, after the sponsor spots. Okay. For the love of God. Okay.

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I mean why don't you just point your camera I heard him do a little squeak and I knew he got it I knew something happened I was earlier the show I was like The dopamine squeak Yes exactly I heard it And I was like oh we're getting something good

I don't know what exactly Like I don't know if the Maybe he just got the light to turn on or something But Does it boot? I don't know No screen I guess yeah

okay well we'll see what happens I guess want to give me your HTML cable sure dude I'm so stoked I don't want to throw my ball there you

actually work oh my power cable's not here anymore crunched a bunch of cables in there maybe when they tried to reassemble it I don't know what you're talking about he's blaming me

can you believe he's blaming me I don't think he was oh he was Dan you were blaming me right No, I don't know. Might have been sent from factory like that. See? God, British humor is so not funny.

Actually, it's the funniest. You know, I mean, it wasn't in your position for so many years. I just assumed he met somebody else. No. He wouldn't take shots at some random. I mean, it was a blameless accusation. See, you can tell from his tone. You can tell from his tone how blameful it is.

I've seen enough insides of things that just blame a general person and then they can be guilty. See, he blamed the general. Oh, I wonder if the front button is actually... Make sure not to dock someone with pulling up the sign-in. What? I mean...

I think the sign-in is probably going to be a username. Worst-case scenario. I think we're probably going to be okay. Watch it be like full first and last name of a Valve employee. No, I know, right? I mean, it'd be pretty funny. There's no way they still work there anyway. Gabe Nalph.

Oh, hey, look. Look at Glow. Yeah, we're going to bring it over here, then? Yeah, why isn't it over here? We want to put it on the screen so people can see. Well, in fairness to him, the first thing I said was, Dan, why don't we just do it over there? So, uh, did you, uh, did you, did you, did you take away the power cable? He needs the power cable.

Can I have that, please? God. Hey. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh, should we move the banner? so they can see it up or like

Hold on You just sat down We don't need it No no we don't can Is that opaque or is it transparent You know what just add a bit A bit more translucency That way people's merch messages

Can still show Yes Please Yes Thank you Hey there we go Wow Did you

What did you push it correctly Oh my god What the heck Yeah who broke it now smart guy As far as I can tell, Linus had it back for like a minute and just destroyed everything. No way! That was... No! That sounds... I destroyed nothing. That sounds lower accurate.

No, I destroyed nothing. That sounds lower accurate to me. Stop! Oh, I'm just not sure if this fan's going to be able to spin. The mount on it is broken. Yeah. It's really temperamental. Oh, okay.

So, so it broke. It brokey. Yeah, I think maybe it's broke you again. I want to display... Oh, that was barely in there. It was in there. That was barely in there. You don't have to plug things in?

I know I have plugged things in. Plug in the freaking table. It was plugged in. Dude, he pulled it out with like one one hundredth of a pound of force. Oh. Is it off again? No, it just hasn't turned on in a while. I plugged it in.

no you did not you did not at all you did not I did not I did they can't see it it was not properly plugged in it was plugged in at all you know what it's possible what do you think I don't know whoever plugged it in last time

probably didn't it was on here like this I probably plugged it in until it hit this it was very difficult to plug in I think that's probably what happened is I plugged it in and it felt like it moved and then it hit this thing right here because it hangs down

a little bit. Yeah, that makes sense. That's dumb. Because the power cable has a bit of a... I didn't plug it in. Boxing. Do we have an... Is there an output at all? Checking. My laptop? Uh, that's what it was before. Oh yeah, that seems to be... Yeah, that's the last frame it had. I have... 800 by 600. Oh, okay. So that's probably a biosplash screen then.

Let me... So your Luke laptop... Wait, you took the storage drive out of it, Dan. How the hell are we supposed to boot it? well the fact that it turned on i think is good enough i'll bring that over back in one sec let's just make sure that we can get oh well i mean yeah we wanted to see what it that was why we were going to show the screen i don't know it was going to work in like five minutes ago that's fair i am happy we got the ring

yeah he wants it to not work it's better for camera no i wanted to work oh yes sorry i forgot that it's in our script you know fail for content or whatever. Yeah, that's all we do. That is not a principle for us. He did mean to pull your improperly. Core tenant. But he just knew the views. What? What do you do?

He dropped the drive directly onto the motherboard. That's amazing. You can't make the stuff up, dude. It's just... It's a padded drive. It's cushioned. Oh, my goodness. this man's an icon

oh man I'll see how this goes all right well maybe it won't we can do yeah that yeah we can

we can start we can start merch messages while we tinker around with this uh sure yeah let's see Dan have you been doing merch messages at all

well we have had like 300 so I've been trying Oh my god What whole I can join on some of these Oh my god This is

This is fucked We're good This guy bought $300 in gift cards Is anybody buying Anything other than gift cards Some people said they might buy stuff Oh my god

Someone bought the gift card And super discounted swim trunks And a pin Well pin was free. Fuck. We had a deal, you guys. You're going to buy profitable stuff.

Oh my God. So many people are buying like $250 gift cards or like multiple $100 gift cards. What is this order? $242. $100. A $100 freaking gift card. Okay, no, you bought a couple scribe drivers. Thank you, Jacob.

for being a team player. So I'm going to jump in the incoming and help Dan. Okay. I mean, Dan left. He just left. He was there and he left. I might have too.

Luke, we're on our own now. We can do it. We're fine. Oh, well, that's the steam machine. So much for that. Okay,

so should I just do curated ones on my own? I can read it to if you want. No, I'll do it. I'll do it. Joseph B. writes, What, ho, when, showers, I managed to see the Joseph musical in the summer.

It was great and brought back memories. Just wondering, what makes it special to Linus? May I suggest PC build guide the musical? You know, with Riley's talents, that could actually be pretty great. Some of those sponsors spots recently. Dude, the, that's right over your power button, just a heads up.

Whatever the most recent one was, uh oh on the underwater the underwater um yes that one the ad spot on there is hilarious i think i watched it twice or three times yep oh dude amazing um special i think a lot of people from the thumbnail by the way might have assumed that was another like pool cleaner or something yeah we're working on updating the thumbnail i think we're going to change the thing in my hand to a boom box so then it seems like a little less obviously a product the reason we used that bluetooth speaker was just just because it seemed like, so A, it tied into the initial research I did trying to find a solution where it was just a bunch of stupid Bluetooth speakers that advertise themselves as being waterproof, but actually what they meant was

can get splashed on a little bit, not like under, I searched for underwater speaker and I ended up with a bunch of stupid Bluetooth speakers. So it was kind of supposed to tie in with that. And also it just clearly looks like a speaker, you know, to the modern audience. but I think that the boom

But to your point I think it looks sponsored But it's not It's super duh I understood it wasn't Which is why I clicked on it But it immediately looked very sponsored Yeah so I think if we change it to a boom box

Above the water Then that will sell it a little bit Better as what it is Anyway what's special about it for me Is I think it was one of the first musicals I ever saw I went with my auntie And it was just such a great show

It was such a magic Awesome experience It set off what turned out to be a lifelong love of musical theater, live theater in general. And Donnie is just such an incredible star. It was when Donnie Osmond was playing Joseph. And so, yeah, when I saw it most recently with him playing Pharaoh, it was such a cool, like, full circle moment. And it was just magic, man.

It's a great show. It's just pure fun. It doesn't, oh, my God, it booted up. want to show the people uh yeah i would like to do you want to use luke's cam or my cam rather uh dan can you push the button push the button i did oh is there pastor well no yeah i mean you'll have to move the camera dan because it's not pointed at the i thought it was yeah he's tethered with headphones this is hilarious also your producer cam thing is up right just go to the wipe you can only do two things at a time okay

you go nailed it perfection okay just you're good dan it's fine it's good enough we don't have a keyboard though dan oh my god does it need something well i mean i yeah it depends if we've and he's gone um cool good birch message i'm gonna archive it now uh adam r writes greetings d l it is genuinely hard to pitch slash explain youtube merch and there isn't really a better term. Have you considered brand names for your clothing outside of LTT store? Linus Textiles, that one's free.

We are going to transition to using more creator warehouse branding for like our blank products with the idea being that eventually maybe other creators would use our blanks as well. Beyond that, I think we've discussed switching over to LTT rather than Linus.

and then LTT store could still just work and we just kind of move away from the linenessness like our old stealth hoodie for instance was like a black on black so it was still stealthy but it just had like Linus tech tips and giant text down the arm we very rarely put my name on anything anymore and that's that's highly intentional

um Dan is doing things over there so I'm just going to switch over to that camera but yes it has occurred to us but right now our overall sales volumes are so relatively low that splitting out and creating a new product line with a different brand I feel like all it would really serve to do

is split our run rate and I don't see how we could how we could justify it we still honestly speaking are not that good at selling outside of promoting it through our like YouTube channels we still have a lot to learn about marketing without leaning on the YouTube channels as a crutch.

Unique username says Linus, that was the opposite of stealthy. That was a shiny Linus, cringe. It wasn't shiny. It was like Matt Black on Black. Yes, I agree. It's too much. And that's why we don't do it anymore. But I really don't think it was shiny.

I don't think I can agree with that. Sorry. Luke and Linus, writes Gabriel You've talked about making sandals in the past Have you thought about making boots or FR clothing Work in the oil and gas industry And FR is required P.S, play payday three

You mean like fire resistant Yeah, flame, yeah Yeah, so we looked at doing flame retardant like either like the base material itself or with coatings on the workshop jacket and ultimately um i forget whether it was due to like the chemical nature or we really liked the material we were using and it just wasn't or if it was a certification thing we're very low volume like that's the thing to um to kind of remember always is that we are you know a big YouTuber organization,

but a little bitty company in the grand scheme of things. Like we are, we are ants under which the giant boots of companies like Nestle descend upon and crush. Like, we're not a huge player in the grand scheme of things.

So, um, like this is impacting our ability to do cables, for instance. Our USB cables are coming. But certain display cables, not going to name many names have just unbelievable fees associated with every single skew at every single length that could prevent us from being able to make that type of display cable at all because we just don't do that kind of volume so no plans for fire resistant clothing in the

near future as for boots very unlikely as well doing doing boots requires different molds for every single size and i mean i i feel like you could you could probably go to like a chinese boot factory or something like that and they'd be able to do the molds for you for a fraction of what you'd be able to do somewhere else but between tariffs and between it being very challenging to control the quality of a product like that, I just don't really see what we'd be adding to the boot category. If that situation ever changes, if we find a really outstanding factory and we find a really outstanding reason for our boots to exist, never say never, but there are absolutely no plans for the new future also duly noted on the payday three

recommendation. Oh, wow. I can do it. I can do it. couple more if you want no idea how to read this but here's a merge message from this yeah love from china do you think that it is ethically defensible for apple to apply double standards when it comes to trading profit for surrendering iCloud servers to our government what would you do if you were in our situation uh no i don't think it's defensible at all i mean this is one of the things that drives me so nuts about Apple. And it's one of the things that Apple users flipping hate when I talk about because there is no defense of this.

You can't get on stage and talk about how important user privacy is to you. You can't beat your chest and talk about how uncompromising you are about user privacy. when you have user data in data centers that the Chinese government has unlimited access to. I'm sorry, but you don't get to do that. And yeah, the Chinese government would probably just lock Apple out of the Chinese market if they refused to surrender that access. But that's...

Them's the brakes, then. so you can't say privacy first profit second if actually when push comes to shove it's the other one and look it's not like apples any different from the vast majority of other companies who would make the same decision fine just own it then that's all i'm asking just don't bullshit me just say yeah we you know we'll comply with whatever laws in order to to make sure that we can continue doing business in whatever key region. Just say that then. Don't pretend to be better than anybody. That's all. Next up.

Oye. What? Okay. Okay. So we're in the BIOS. Is our boot drive showing up? Yeah. I didn't see it there.

Yeah, there it is. Oh, cool. Okay. man that is a that is a fun looking bios look at man when did bioses get so boring yeah look at that do you think it might need something like oh like CSM or something or um no not CSM

the stupid legacy boot mode uh hold on just go to exit go to the exit one because sometimes the exit tab will just have like a boot to this particular device oh yeah this one too Nope. No dice. Yeah, back to boot then. Hard drive boot priorities, boot option one. I mean, if it shows up as a boot option, theoretically, it should just go, right? Oh, legacy only. Want to change storage to either? Oh, no, UFI only. Okay, so we already tried legacy then. Do you want to try UFI? Sure. Okay, let's see what happens. if f10 doesn't work it's illegal okay okay put them in jail by house jail yeah

Kevin B asks Linus any updates on your daily driving of the AirPods Pro 3s I'm really looking forward to hearing your thoughts after using them for a while after your fiery first impressions on short circuit I flew to Dallas Texas

earlier this week the noise cancellation on the AirPods Pro 3s is so good that on a jet aircraft I could have just as easily been cruising at like 50 miles an hour on the highway wow like wow it is so good that I actually kind of wish that Apple had like a like a staged or a faded, like a gradual change from ANC to transparency mode. Is it shocking? Because it's jarring sometimes. You turn off transparency and like, oh, dang, it's loud in here. Like you get adjusted to it. Well, I find the transparency mode on mine is louder than not having the headphones in.

The transparency mode on the AirPods Pro 3s is also just outstanding. It's very natural. like even my own speech is quite natural which is very difficult to do as far as I can tell because almost nobody executes it very well um sometimes the audio quality doesn't bother me but there are certain situations where it is it is just not very good now I have heard that there's a new update and I have finally figured out my transition problems over to the iPhone air. So once I pair my AirPods pros to this,

I should be able to apply the latest firmware update. Oh, I should actually add that to my notes for the review that if Apple hasn't dealt with this yet. I haven't actually checked if they haven't dealt with this yet, but if Apple still hasn't dealt with there being absolutely no way to update the firmware on AirPods Pro 3s unless you also have an iPhone, that is like should be. be criminal, basically. You should be able to apply updates to your device simply by having your device. Can you do it through, oh wait, maybe some, I think someone might have mentioned before that

you might be able to do it through iTunes. Can you do it through iTunes on PC? Someone let me know. Let me know in the chat. Can you, I'll just make a note for myself. Can you update without iPhone? Boop. Okay, now I got that in there. That is something that I want to talk about one way or another. Um, I think that's all I kind of have to say for now. They still aren't as comfortable for me, but I think I figured out why they did it because, wow, do they ever stay seated in your ear canal? Okay, so, you know, I have those problems with the IEMs staying in my ear canal. So I use the kind of older version where it doesn't go in your ear. They're, uh, just earbuds.

earbuds instead of iems um but i got the air pods non pro four yeah is i think it's proper name and that has ANC and transparency mode and honestly they drive me nuts and i wish i just had the old ones and i still use the old ones sometimes but my old ones the battery life in the right ear is really bad so it'll die way before the other one which sucks why you just replace the battery fucking got them get trolled um the reason why i don't like them so much is because because you don't have that insert from the iems the seal is really bad yeah and even in transparency mode it'll be like trying to figure it out and it'll just start going like crazy and it's like percussion against your ear it gets really intense um so

I don't know. It's annoying, especially when you're like moving around doing stuff, they'll move slightly in your ear and then the seal will break

and then just bobobo again. It's like, man, I find it really annoying, to be honest. With the seal, it's good.

And man, I got to say, I wake up with them both still in my ears, which is pretty incredible. Like my pro two's fall out during the middle of the night all the time.

When it makes seal, it sounds great. Yeah. And like the ANC and the transparency mode is amazing. All kinds of fantastic. You just got to figure out

how to wear in-eers, or in-canel. I need those spring clips to be a thing. Nice. I need to bring that back. Classic. Yeah. Let's see. Did we give up on this?

I can't get it past the black screen of death. Okay. Cool. So hardware? That says hardware. It could just be that this drive is empty. Yeah. Yeah.

Wouldn't it say, hey, boot? Stop it. Give me boot device. Not necessarily. I've seen this behavior before, personally. Okay. I tried.

We should crank the transparency back up and make it purple. Nice. Oh, I forgot to do... No, you're doing so many things. It's all good. I can read the next one. Dan, you're doing great. I'll skip the one.

Oh, Luke, what Linux distro do you use? And how has the experience been considering Linux myself? For the last little bit, I've been dual booting because there's some stuff I need to do in Windows that, like, I could have VMed and stuff, but that was proven to be annoying. I've been dual booting. But on the Linux side on my laptop, I've been using Arch. The reason why I picked Arch wasn't to be a, I'm better at Linux than you, dude.

It was to prove that. It was just because I'm a better than Linux that you do. No, no, no. And I'm good enough to run Arch. No, no, that's fine. You don't have to say it. With relatively little knowledge experience or effort. With relatively little knowledge experience or effort,

I have been able to run it just fine for months. now totally just fine no problems updates all that stuff um and it's been great and like i don't game on my laptop much but i have steam installed and i can play a game every now and then and it's been very transparent like the it doesn't feel like oh i'm using steam time trying to pull all these levers and do all these crazy things to get these games to work it's a download button it's a play button it's just like you're on windows like it's very easy um so yeah the whole goal of this honestly was to be able to basically talk about it on Wancho and point out that it's been fine and I picked the one that's hard and the reason for that was to show

how great you are no it wasn't even though it's hard the point was that I've done nothing there's no there's no skill involved there's no skill so if you can't do it oh wow you must be beyond no skill because I am so godlike at running Linux it took no skill at all Oh, my God. There was at the Intel event in Arizona that we were at. There was like Linux nerds there asking me Linux questions because they heard that I was running it. And I kept on being like, I don't know. That's not the point.

The point is that I don't have to do all these things and it's still good. Like that's the point. That's the interesting part. So like I, if I were you, wouldn't necessarily pick Arch. It's not against Arch. Hathel says Luke is swinging his Luke around the room as usual. Giant Linux Dong Oh my god

The point is that you can pick the one you want And it's probably going to be fine Go have fun I wish the rest of us could have picked it Up next Yeah Sadly no infinite money glitch on gift cards No gift cards with gift cards

What game is Luke playing right now? Did you ever finish? 8 the third. No. You still haven't finished it? No. You talk so much about how great is he even finish it.

How many characters are you on? Eight? I think more. One? I think more than eight. More than eight. I'm pretty sure more than eight. I got super far through a Durs run

and then was just like, uh. I have like three different single player. I can only play this 15 hours a day. Like there's not enough time. I have a hard time not doing everything. Yeah. And I have this style.

That must cost you a lot of chicken. That's actually a really good joke for Baldersgate. I even like bears. Both kinds. Oh my. He kind of is both kinds, I guess. But anyways.

Everyone's player sexual. Off that topic. Frick, what was I going to say? Yeah, one of my favorite ways to play with new people is to not be the party face like make them be the party face um that's like playing the charisma character or the character that will do the dialogues basically because i've like done all the things in act one in act two like in act two so do you really just think of them as things they're just toys to his masculinity they're just chicken consumption

they just eat your chicken and then they're just you discard them. It might be a wizard actually. It could be poisoned. Arcane chicken. So, so my whole like, yeah, my whole thing is letting them, because every once in a while, even if, even if very small, there will be one little tiny thing that I haven't really experienced before. But if I'm just making the decisions all the time, it's going to be hard to do that. Because it's very likely that I'll just do the types of things that I would normally do. Even doing things in different orders can kind of change other gameplays. Um, so I have so many campaigns. that are in Act 2.

I have a few different campaigns that are in Act 3. I have a ton of campaigns that never made it out of Act 1. Someone who I'd love to start playing with again. I'd have to have a house together and my computer set up and stuff like that. But I started a game with Wendell. And he, this was like right early on in the game coming out. And he selected Durge without knowing. Oh.

What the hell what? And Wendell's like the kindest, nicest dude. and then his character's just doing dirge things and he's like, ah! That was great. I don't like this game very much. I would love to start playing that again. But yeah, I don't know.

I'll beat it eventually. I'm in no particular rush. Why would you have to beat it if you have all your things to use? Let's move on. Like Luke does from his thing. You're such an animal. You're such an animal. What comes immediately to your mind

Is the biggest news you've ever discussed What comes Immediately to your mind As the biggest news you've ever discussed on the WAN show I don't know Maybe Silicon Valley Bank Um Facebook buying Open AI

What? Facebook buying Oculus Oh Other O company Yeah not that that was a big one for me that's that big I was a big one for me

yeah um biggest news biggest news biggest news like the Silicon Palli Vank thing was big but like I mean it didn't impact

you or me exactly yeah or most of them so like what was the biggest news to us CEO stepped down yeah i guess i mean would you say it's impact has it's changed that much around here but you can say it did like fine it depends on how you like in in people's very average day to day i don't necessarily think it's changed a ton but there are certain things that have

changed very significantly i would say tactful he's learning um not enough because you noticed so yeah whatever I mean like whatever political bullshittery

I taught you a lot of it so yeah um um and to be clear the point is not to deceive the point is to

evade to speak without saying um it's pretty good though thanks yeah um man what am i i don't know yeah chat gpt release was pretty wild

says camsta bro but i just wonder if there's like a recency bias there that was a bit ago oh yeah yeah so it was the like crazy stream where we were like freaking out over yeah that was uh that's probably a couple years ago now years ago is i think yeah

yeah see what else yeah the hack we didn't like announce on the WAN show though like it like happened before yeah the YouTube video was kind of the big deal with the hack i think not so much the stream we did we did talk about it on the stream but the news was already broken for sure. Yeah, you know what? I think the chat GPT one was pretty big in terms of like I think that's impact on the world. That feels correct. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's go with that.

When chat GPT released, this is a steftut in float plane chat, it was the first time in a while where I realized I was living in a history defining moment. I think it was for us too, which is one of the reasons why I agree. I think that's probably the almost three years. That's it. Really? Whoa. Yeah. That seems crazy.

Yeah. Wow. The charged nuclei 8300 goes, yeah, everyone was worried about losing their jobs. Now we're losing our jobs. Yeah. Yeah, but it's usually not AI, to be honest. It's... Except when it is.

Yeah, a lot of those have eventually come out as like, um, layoff excuses because they wanted to do layoffs not because they this is true yeah this is true it's returned to work and laid off because of AI is usually they actually just wanted to do layoffs regardless and they found an excuse a lot of the AI replacing people thing isn't actually really like working I had I had a I been doing home stuff was at Home Depot bought a thing walked up to the desk I was trying to figure out like is this self checkout or not because there was employees standing by like most of them and the person walked up to me took my stuff and then did the self-checkout for you?

Walked it to the self-checkout thing. I've seen that. Did it for me and then just walked away and I was left to like pay and I was like, how is this better? Like, what are we doing? Scrappy TP says Billet Labs. No. You know they did one production run of that thing? Did they? Aren't they doing more stuff now though? I think they have a YouTube channel and whatever. But the actual product that I have a YouTube channel and whatever. But the actual product that I said was irrelevant ended up having exactly enough relevance

for them to do one pre-order one production run and then never make it again so no I don't think that was a particularly

consequential thing Brian asks ILLLD what are your thoughts on the future of discrete Intel arc cards

particularly higher end given the recent Intel and video partnership. I'd really like a B-770 or C-770 to be a thing. We're hoping for the best, man. We're rooting for it right alongside you. Bring on future discrete arc. It's going to be great. If it ever, if it ever makes it, I am so exciting, so excited. I'm not exciting, but I'm excited. Are you excited? Yes. Is it because I'm exciting? Yeah. I don't think that's right. Oh, stop it.

Ryan asks, Hi Linus, do you dream much? Sometimes. Sometimes I sleep like the living dead. Other times I wake up and I think I'm mid-conversation with someone and I have no idea where I am or what's going on

because I was dreaming so lucidly that I was pretty sure that I was awake. So everywhere in between. and I have a particular I shouldn't even say particular ones I have like two different kinds of sleeping pills that I use once in a while and I like really need to sleep

and my brain's just buzzing and both of them in different ways give me just the most whack-a-doodle dreams so I end up sleeping more but I end up resting less well I have to set alarms or have some really good

sunlight exposure in the room the sun coming up will wake me up um but if if i have like blackout blinds or whatever or even just not a lot of sun exposure into the room i can just sleep forever because i will lucid dream the heck out of it every single night and it's been that way forever um i also have a problem where like if i get woken up say like three hours four hours into sleeping um and then fall back asleep my brain wants to like reset and it's like no we're going for eight again there's there's no other way and it's it worries me for like when I'm older if I end up needing to do more often like charged nuclei with the bangers this week Luke sleeps like a bird

you just put a blanket on to me he's like that's actually so true I hate you so much what's a circadian rhythm no dark It's so true. Because when I go on a plane, no. You don't know this, do you? When I go on a plane, one of my standard things that I pack in my like smaller bag,

I'll have my like switch, I'll have some battery banks, whatever else, is always a sweater. Even when I, like, when I went to Arizona, I packed a sweater because I'll put the sweater on backwards. put the hood over my head and it like blacks everything i hate the the eye covering things um and and it just blacks everything out and i can i like flying back from arizona i think it was like 8 p.m i i am not tired at 8 p.m on any day we get on the plane i was like out before take off so yeah that's actually i haven't heard that before that's a very good description i can't

I can't find it right now but a picture of me definitely exists on social media somewhere of my plane move which involves a hoodie as well but I cinch oh I've seen this tight so that only my nose sticks out so that because I can't

I can't sleep if I'm breathing back in hood air oh yeah there's like the reason why I wear the full hoodie is because I I'll like usually lift a thing up down low that's not enough for me yeah not enough I've got to have the

I've got to have the nose hole I definitely don't mind a little bit of recirculated air I can deal with that no problem anonymous ass here it is oh you found it yeah here it is uh

yeah that's it no key found it so this is my move so I actually end up with little pressure marks on the bridge of my nose here um but yeah it leaves it leaves my breathing holes open

but that's actually pretty good that's my move that's pretty good oh yeah this too um yeah yeah always hands in the pockets because otherwise they get chilly like this under the sweater right okay yeah oh oh like pulling the arm pulling in out of the arms

because I do that one too I don't actually put the sweater like on it's on reverse oh I see I see so you just lay it on you yeah I'll wear the sweater but I'll pull I'll pull my arms out of the arms and then I'll just go like this Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care if I'm in my 30s, and I look like a child doing it.

When you're on a plane, all bets are off. You get whatever rest you can. Yes, exactly. You get comfy, and that's it. It doesn't matter anymore. Yep. I know I look like a goof. It's fine.

It doesn't matter to me. But yeah, I like basically wear it like a blanket. Because that's another thing. I find it very hard to sleep unless like something is on top of me. but there has been like very significant portions of my life where where I'm sleeping is way too hot so I'll sleep with just a sheet but it just has to be like something um so wearing the sweater like that also like feels like I have a blanket on me I don't know it works I found a system I'm sticking to it hell yeah Linas thank you for some great videos this week what was the best part

of the planetarium shoot LTT gamer dome win oh definitely climbing the dome That was so sick. The fact that there was nobody who actually, like, worked for the McMillan Space Center there to tell me no was, like, awesome. That was important. Oh, awesome. The second you started climbing, I was like, there's no way, they let them do that. And then you just kept going.

I was like, what? Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, that massive, what did they call it? The, like, Nexus speaker or whatever? Oh, shoot. What was it? Not apex.

I shouldn't have said a word. Something. Yeah. What was the speaker at the top called? Do someone remember? Not Pinnacle. That's not it. I don't think it was Pinn.

Someone's going to know. Someone's going to post it in chat. But, oh. Really sick name. Xenith. Yeah. Zenith. Yeah.

So, oh, so cool. Dude, it's been, it's been, you know what the upside is of channel momentum being a little bit low lately? Is when people make their way back to the channel after the long pause that they've had. there's some bangers they're going to have an absolute killer back catalog to go through this video is great the thumbnail really i don't know we need to do some more work on it or something because david did just such an amazing job of this video it's so cool we play around with underwater speakers that are for like synchronized swimming teams and we like put it in this guy's pool and he's a local guy and he makes like setups for it in a shop and we tour his shop and it's like

awesome. This video was... Where you like baited him into jumping into the pool? hilarious. I didn't do that on purpose. Oh, what? Oh no. Okay.

So what happened here? Oh my God. There we go. Okay. So what happened here is I was doing a dry run. Like we had done a few dry runs and I was just... I was doing one more practice before I was going to be like, okay, let's go. I thought because there's footage of him,

like there's another camera. This one. No, that was not intentional. Oh, it was so good. So I was doing, yeah, literal dry run. Thank you, Conrad. I like it. So I was just practicing the line and I was showing him the timing.

So I was showing him how I was going to telegraph the jump because we were supposed to jump in together so that it would. You guys ended up nailing it. So it would look like this. Yeah, we got it on the next take because we had done a few practices, right? So, like, the timing was, the camera went right with your head. Yeah. I actually, I noticed when it, when you guys did it again, that I was like, oh, damn, that was

actually really good. Yeah. Well, because we, that was, that was, that was, that was, probably the fourth time that I had sort of telegraphed the move. Yeah. But then I was changing the intonation. I was changing the timing a little bit. So I was doing it one more time to show them how I was going to do it.

Did you tell them that? No, but I also didn't tell them we were going for real this time. so I just did the read for him like being him it's much safer for him to do what he did because he can come out and just like be wet and it's fine yeah you can't

really yeah I can't go from dry to wet again yeah so if someone's going to screw that up it would be him so you know if he has even the the inkling of a thought that you're actually going for it it makes sense for him to go for it I will defend the actions of the camera scrapyard Wars 10 is a banger if you're into that

this VR one is freaking awesome. Did you watch this yet? I have not. Dude, I've had no time. It's, this thing is so cool. It's a VR headset from 1994. No, I'm going to watch it. I just have had, because of the house,

renovations, whatever. Dude, freaking awesome. Oh, dude. Like, underviewed videos. This one right here is probably the most underviewed video on the channel. Because it starts out with this like real footage

of Ploof's car. And it's just me and Adam, driving right this is probably one of the best intros we've ever done like top three for sure the fact that there's the little like jiggle too oh dude that motion platform is so cool so if you haven't seen the video like man what a cool setup is that incredible or what it's a really cool video

and like dude I've I've made some complaints about how long our videos are now that's a 22 minute video it felt like it could have been 45 flies by like it's very dense yep so you know man I don't know it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of fun for people who have made their way off the channel for one reason or another

and finally find their way back and are just like man why the heck did I stop watching because there's some really really great videos in the library lately team has been absolutely freaking killing it do you doing the crab thing underwater oh dude did you see the person who like

a-eyed it onto actual crabs or something on Reddit yeah the Reddit's been fun it's so bit of a rare moment but the Reddit has been fun. It is so uncomfortable to look at, but really funny. All right, hit me, Dan. Linus, you said you're a big fan of Made in Canada.

That show got me into the Tragically Hip. Do you enjoy their music, and did any of you watch their final performance? But a third of the country did. I have to admit, Tragically Hip is one of those bands that I've heard of a billion times. What? And I probably, like, would know their songs if I heard them. them you would know their songs but i never i never got into them i uh i'm sorry if this helps me redeem my canadianness a little bit love the bare naked ladies listen to them a lot um that helps

sorry tragically it's fantastic hundredth meridian is probably my favorite song of theirs it's not the most popular but it's probably my favorite one also arrogant worms big fan DLL. Saw them live once. Oh, yeah. At the Maple Ridge Center for the Performing Arts

or whatever it's called. Maple Ridge has like a tiny little theater. It's like 200 people or something. Adorable. And they performed that. It was great. They did this impromptu song called I pulled my groin.

I pulled my groin. I pulled my groin. It just kind of went like that for a while. Pretty great. It's a very if you're into it kind of humor those guys. Anyway. Rush,

my dad's a huge Rush fan. Russia's dope. I didn't know they were Canadian. You know who else is Canadian? Uh-oh. Almost everybody, it seems... Best-named band in the world. Hold on. Best

Named. Saying it ironically. Band in the world. You have to know the story behind it to understand why I would say that. Chat already guessed it. Uh, simple plan. No.

Are they Canadian? Oh, yeah. Montreal. Nickelback. Nickleback? Why is that what makes are the best name? I think it was lead singer guy. One of them used to work at a coffee shop and used to constantly ask people if they wanted their nickel back because they'd pay in cash and then that's how much change there would be after they bought a dollar 95 you know 95 cents.

You want your nickel back? Yeah, I get it. Let's name it our band. It's a very Abbotsford. Their label is 6.04 records? Yeah. Which is kind of cool. code what a unique way to name a record label what a name

all right cool and yes night shift 31 carrot juice's murder is a great song let's listen to this merch message look you mentioned that you're using Godot what's the most complex thing you've done so far

been learning game dev with it myself love how easy it is to pick up shout out to the Godot team Shout out to the Godot team for sure Most complex thing I've done so far It's not very complex Nipless Cage has a late guess For best named band

Jimmy Eat World Doesn't abbreviate well on his shirt though I mean not if you don't want to get blamed for everything That's for sure Um Most complicated thing Yeah I really haven't done a lot That's super complicated to be honest

I know that's a really boring answer, but I haven't gotten that far into it. Right around when I started using it, my life got very busy and very complicated, so I haven't really done a ton of it. Wait till you have a kid if you ever do. Your life is not busy or complicated yet. I think birds sound worse. No. They're not.

You don't go to jail. Yeah, and yeah, exactly. I, you know, I'll reference my birds as if they're like kids or whatever every once in a while. it's not no that's not like we've been they've been at the they've been away from us for a long time right now and i'm fine oh yeah they're not going to like yeah grow up and have to pay therapy yeah it's okay i don't have to do drugs about it they're okay it's good it's expensive that part makes me want to cry myself to sleep but not the them being away from me i'm excited for them to be back it'll be nice i like having them around they're cool it's not my

these things are different how are the birds birds are fine they're at like the safest place they could possibly be they're fine in a coal mine nope that would be a canary not a budgie i mean probably work a budgie would oh it would work yeah would it work too well yeah i think so actually i think that's kind of the problem i think that is the problem what you could you have both of them in the cage and then you could get you could get like different levels be like a thermometer the problem is the budgie i think would just die like just oh i've been outside that would suck it'd be a terrible alarm constantly goes off have you seen it would be the everything's okay alarm yeah true what have you seen the little

contraptions that the miners would make to save the canaries crazy have you seen those yeah yeah they're actually i like that they cared yeah it's really nice makes me happy like they needed They only cared because it cost so much to get another one. And I was like, shut up. No, they were a life-saving technology, and they felt bad, but it was all they had. Up next, would you be willing to talk more about your experience with ADHD and working in a world that is not built for it? What's your advice to help others who are struggling to succeed like you have? Good luck.

great advice every day is suffering and it doesn't get better thanks Dan to the winner goes the spoils see you I don't know man I mean so much of so much of everything is just

not accepting any outcome other than success And to be clear, that's not always going to work. You might just, you might be willing and able to try really hard, but you might just be really dumb, you know, and your ideas might just be really bad. You can still.

And it might not, you know, I just mean like, what I mean is just like trying really hard at something that's a bad idea. It won't be a recipe for success. You have to have a combination. You have to have a willingness to win. You have to have a fortunate situation. like you know Luke and I often talk about how we grew up without a lot of money but what we were both lucky to have was supportive families right and that's something that is worth more than any amount of money so you know we were very privileged in that way for sure right and so you have to have an opportunity you have to have um you have to have just like genetic lottery luck um like there's a lot of things that have to align for

for success but what every single successful person has in common and I don't mean people who were handed money I don't consider just the act of having money success

but people who earned a place in the world like what they all have in common is they all worked their butt off and didn't take failure as an option and so that's yeah that that's it people hate that answer and we've gotten flamed for this answer

repeatedly over time yeah it doesn't change hustle culture hustle culture is toxic the grind set is whatever and that's fine neat but then just you know you've got to define you've got to define what your goals are yeah exactly but that's not what I'm being asked yeah right like and there's no like there's no I don't know there's no auto win button so when people

don't like Addo says ADHD person trying to focus in order to provide tips on ADHD well yeah yeah doing my best over here I will never not try hard

that's what I that's what I told badminton Insight when they came and did the collab when they like trained me like a pro for the day. Uh, so I did like their professional training regimen and like it kicked my butt. And they were like, I can't believe you're still going. And I'm like, well, that's the only thing that I can offer any coach who has ever coached me is that I will do my absolute best every single time. Sometimes my best will be fucking trash. And I just like, I won't hit a single shot. Um, but I will do my best for the

entire session and when it's over I will go have a bath and then I will come back the next day and I will do my best and my best might be trash again but damn it I will do my best and that's all I can offer and maybe part of it is just accepting that that sometimes you're going to do your best and it's going to be trash and you just have to keep doing it anyway because anything else is not going to win you will never win sandbagging it Linus, Alabaster Don, cross-code, quote-unquote sequel, got a demo. Maybe a while before 1.0, but from the sounds of it. Mm-hmm.

You okay over there? Yep. Wish list. What is this? Where's the demo? You can't tell me Alabaster Don has a demo. You've got to go to this team. Not have one.

Well, why wouldn't they talk about it on? their website. It says right there, you scroll past it, it's up there. You scrolled past it. Oh, boy. What are you doing? Where is it? There, in the middle. What, wish list? That's a wish list. Yeah, that's not demo. You should talk about, you should talk about the demo. How would you not talk about your demo? Public demo, here it is. I have to go to the blog. Do they only have one blog? You know what dummies. Every of these things that's anything has two blogs. Oh, John actually texted me. Oh, is the upset?

What about secret third blog? You can't make fun. We have blogs. He said, sorry about the links and permissions with the forum stuff. This week's been kind of a show for me. Don't worry about it. John, relax. It's okay.

Okay, what do we got here? Alabaster Don Demo. You don't have to apologize for anything. You have two blogs. Yeah. He has twice as many blogs as this pathetic radical fish games. Imagine we have one blog. Okay, so yeah, you just install it from Steam.

First public demo. What is it? Install it right now. Play on the show. Saves from this demo are expected to be fully compatible with future early access and full versions. We hope that you will enjoy a small taste of what's to come. You can also already leave feedback with Steam reviews. Oh, I wonder how the feedback is.

I really hope it's... Leave feedback on a video of this one show by playing it now. I'm not going to play it right now. Why? We're now a review channel. I'm going to wait. You're going to wait for full release. Oh.

No user reviews yet. Oh, dude. if this game is anywhere near as good as I'm expecting it will be a full release it's not early access though which is nice yeah I wasn't questioning it was going to be full release I was saying are you going to wait to play it until full release

it's not even announced whatever I'll let chat explain it to you happen oh understood Dan I think he's I think he's recovering from that one

Linus went to Luke and it took a while to get over a year to quite far away Oh fire tonight It's not even the gonorrhoea L and D we need the explained vid

Oh that's an incoming Linus what's your favorite color How often how many times you're going to curate this question dan i don't know you just say a color and then we can move on my god i was saying it's a one word i really have a favorite color it's complicated complicated moving on hi d l i don't have i don't have a favorite color i don't have one i haven't picked it what's your favorite color oh my god no what's your favorite band okay do you like 22 or some 41 you want you get your boy my d ll have you have you

you ordered the pebble yet. They're starting to ship the white pebble too. Oh. That's a question. I don't know. No, I actually didn't get around to order anyone. Yeah, really. Okay.

I'll get in touch. Okay. This might be a Luke question, actually. Last one I've got here. What do you think? Let's try it. Why does certain FODs like WAN Show on Floplanes stream very poorly to my TV using cast? For the last six months, even the lowest quality only plays audio, the video freeze frames. Well, the floatplane casting feature is hot garbage.

questionably existent um and theoretically hopefully death time into it no well neither has google so it is what it is um hopefully theoretically eventually won't be necessarily because we will have a flow plane app for TVs it is not coming soon but we have been working towards it for a while and we will get there eventually um i know people have been wanting it we have not been ignoring you which is a small team it takes us time um but it's it's coming so yeah sorry there are yeah yeah yeah uh oliva i think is the name um hydrovion is an option there's a there's a few i've heard very good things about hydrovion um but there's a few different options for uh like open source other people made apps for the TVs and stuff you can use theirs

We want to have a first-party version eventually because that's what people are going to look for. But there are other ones that as far as my understanding goes actually work quite well. So you can check those out. Remember correctly, I talked to the hydrovan guy a while ago and it was super cool. Last one I got here. Linus, the leather jacket, it has that middle. So for the two zippers have both zipper pulls on each right side. and tabs on the left.

This way you can use it without the middle, without the second zipper. Yes. That is the plan. So this middle section here where there's a second zipper because it's designed by AI. Yes, this side is female,

and this is male, and this is male, and this is male. So you can actually zip it together and make it like a slimmer fit by taking out the middle section, if you want. So the stock fit will be a little. little bit on the huskier side, and then you'll be able to make it a slimmer fit by bringing it together. To be clear, no, it is not entirely designed by AI. Matthew from our Creator Warehouse

design, fashion team, did generate a bunch of leather jackets. And so we did take a ton of inspiration from an AI generated leather jacket. So it has a bunch of like pockets that don't do anything and like little like straps and stuff that don't attach anything and it has two front zippers which was an AI innovation but it took a lot of work still to turn that AI generated nonsense into something that's actually wearable by a human um and it's going to be awesome we're calling it the Jensen i actually i haven't reached out lately but i i messaged our invi contact like months ago saying like hey what are the odds that we could gift jensen one and have him like wear it on stage or something like and the a i generated leather jacket

you don't think so why not hell no why not i think you should try you should definitely you don't think he would unquestionably you should try you don't think that jensen would like the story of our jacket doesn't have the balls what it's a challenge what kind of a thing to say is that he should do it Well, yeah, he should do it. But why would you think that he would not be into wearing a jacket that was designed by AI? Because it's designed poorly in his whole thing is that he wants to show off good AI. But he also talks a lot about AI as a tool for humans to do work. So, like, that's what it was.

We used it for design inspiration. And it did some pretty wacky stuff. But as wacky as the stuff is, literally everyone that I showed this jacket to in person is like that's a super cool jacket so yeah sure it's covered in a bunch of buckles that have no purpose but does a leather jacket need a purpose for a buckle other than to look cool make it cost an obscene amount of money and then he'd like it maybe like make it make it come across as like it actually does look pretty good it does look good yeah um what do you

float plane chat hold on I'm trying to find a good I'm trying to find a good shot of it where I'm not just like behind a thing I think it's I think it's over here somewhere

where do I put on the jacket oh yeah I put on the jacket here what would you guys think real leather this is probably worth like what would you pay for this you make it tall probably not at tall

sorry Dan I was talking to Matthew and said could I request a one-of-one sample tall and pay out the ass for it. I think that if you're giving the money to Luke, he'd strongly prefer that it was nowhere near your ass. He wouldn't even want a dollar if it was from your ass. But, anyway, hold on, carry on.

But he'll take a bathroom one? No, I said no. Truck stuff? Although, it's... Okay. Someone in full-plane chat asked if I'd take one off the floor of a Japanese bathroom. 400, 600... I mean, they use them for your shower.

water. 200 to 300. Pokey brick. I don't think you're being very realistic. 400, 800, 500 to 600,

at least 400. It's real leather? Like actual animals? Yeah. 500, 400 to 500. US, that'd be like $6 to $800. I think that

I think that much of chat will be happy, not all of them, and Dan will be pleasantly surprised. I will say that much I have some idea of pricing now

I'd say somewhere between 350 and 450 that's my guess that's a very low guess sir for leather goods USD USD yeah that's a that's a very low guess for like real actual leather with this many things very complicated

that many things might change it I remember I don't know if you remember this I had a leather jacket that I wore all the time no I don't remember that when was that this is a long time ago. Okay. And for not that long of a period of time. But I wore it a lot for a while. No, I do remember talking about this because you and I both lost like the fanciest jackets we'd ever bought. And it wasn't that far apart, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that. It was called, so it's from

Donnier Leather. Oh, that's mine too. And they like name their jackets, like people names. Yeah. And it was Luke. Nice. And I didn't know that until I had like picked it. And then I was like, no way and then when it got stolen I went to go back and buy another one and they were gone um but that was like is danya leather like real leather

is that I don't think so yep I mean they have different levels of quality mine one was real leather it was the only medium tall like weird not bomber that's like exists they've got this one oh it's on an insane sale that might explain it they're not doing so hot

oh that's a sale if i've ever seen a sale is it only there's only like one size left though that's pretty normal okay so it's like yeah it's only into excel yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so what's something that's actually let's look at this jacket yeah the asher oh okay wow oh it's my brother's name this is Canadian but this is a very simple jacket compared to the one year show yes there's really not a lot going on here yeah let's go try to find something a little bit more complicated speaking of Canadian artists don't have them

that was a little bit more things so complicated yeah yeah yeah the Jackson maybe I know he's not but I love just thinking

that that guy's just giving you a thumbs up nice what up dude this guy too this guy too hey you want of bowling

hey I mean that's a little bit more complicated. It's still not anywhere near so is yours, and I think part of the reason why I think it is is because of his under thing that he has going on, so maybe not. But that's 627. They're just all a lot more simple

is what I'm getting out of this. Well, because it's easier to make. That makes sense. Yep. And they're also a mass manufacturer. Well, good luck us. I hope we sell a few, and I think some people will be pleasantly surprised

including Dan I added the word designer and immediately found a $38,000 jacket yep cool what do you got let's see it let's see it

is it worth it fendi so no but I mean that was an impossible oh it's not even leather are companies still making fur is this fur sheep skin animals it's lamb ram

it's male sheep really i thought fur was like this guy this looks like the guy from game of thrones almost i don't know his character name or the actor name so good luck is there just one picture they went to all the work to get a model and have him put it on and they took one picture

the shirt looks so bad it's like a lot of money I don't like this stuff I'm going away Phawn Grayjoy Sure I don't know I don't know their names but he looks kind of like that guy

if that's the right guy That's all I got Our worksman says fur is tremendously Out of fashion and Crystal says Yes fur is still a thing All right Wow Um

Cool Apparently the British army still uses Canadian black and brown bear fur. Huh. Cat O.S. says, I'm afraid. Does that count? The answer is no. We'll see again next week.

Same bad time. Same bad channel. Bye. Bye. Would that mean you have to use them? That's so much worse. Skimming them? It would be ethical.

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