The WAN Show - Pixel Phones Finally Blowing Up - WAN Show October 17, 2025

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Happy Friday, everyone, and welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. Do we, though? That'll be fine. Capcom apparently doesn't see the value in bringing back their original games. That's telling. No, no, okay, there is more to it than that. It's not, no, no, no, no, it's not like, it's not like that.

Also, the Pixel 10 Pro Fold has gotten a little spicy, going up in smoke. I think smoke is actually a charitable way of describing it, during Jerry Rig Everything's Bend Test. What else we got going on this week? Did Phillips abandon us? Phillips. Phillips. He tried to pitch this for the title topic for the entire Wancho. Are you that interested in it?

What else is there? What else is there? Phillips. Like, the light bulb and shaver company. Capcom not caring about their old games, just like almost every other game studio. Okay, what else we got? I don't know.

You want to talk about the ROG for the fourth time? No, it's got to be this one. Uh, uh, oh, yeah, sure. Chat GPD, Blu-la, uh, loses its darn mind if you ask it about a seahorse emoji. It's pretty funny. It is pretty funny. The show is brought to you today by Rove Lab, AMD, MSSI, Green Man Gaming, of course, alongside our rat partner D-Rand, our laptop partner Dell,

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Solid. Secret lab. That's the one. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic today, which is, of course, the pixel 10 pro fold causing the first major phone blowing up controversy since. Oh, man, what was it? The Samsung Galaxy Note 7, way back in the day? Although, in fairness, oh, you're doing that already.

No, no, don't do that now. Do that later. That's wild. Do that later. Do that later. Okay, okay, okay. During Zach from Jerry Rig Everything's durability testing of the Pixel 10 Pro Fold, he was able to break the phone close to the hinge with his hands.

I mean, okay. In fairness, in fairness to the Pixel 10 Pro Fold, have you seen that man's arms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if I didn't know that he was a tech YouTuber, I would think he was like a gym bro workout YouTuber. There's a few jacked tech

YouTubers these days. Yeah, I know. I don't really get it. Well, actually, I think I do get it. You know how every time you're going through like a bit of a health kick, you say to yourself, okay, I've got an idea. Every time I die in game.

or every time I You're saying we're all really bad at game Fail and overclock Right I'm gonna do I'm gonna do five pushups Are you the best at games then? I think that what are you Because I'm in great shape

No no no no What I think is I think Those like jacked Geeks and nerds Are the ones who actually have the discipline To do it Because every time I've ever come up with that idea I've done it like once

And then I'll like die And I'll be like oh yeah but like, I'll be like, I'm responding in like five seconds. I'll just, and then I just completely don't do it. You need an additional layer of discipline, which is to play a game that actually works for it. Yeah.

Oh, dude. And like, it's one of those catch-22s, right? Because if I had the discipline to be disciplined enough to work out while I'm gaming, I wouldn't need that discipline because I would already have the discipline to just work out. Come on. It's the same kind of discipline. To force yourself to not do the thing you want to do so you can eat your vegetables. So you can do the thing you know you're supposed to be doing.

I think it's a little different. You think it's different? I think it's a little different. Location changing is a heck of a thing. I think it's honestly, for me, it's playing the game that accommodates that better. For me, every game accommodates that. No way. I'm pretty bad at video games.

What if you're playing like, okay, you bring up counterstableness. strike all the time what if you're playing counter strike but it's like oh dude but it's like free for all i would my my well yeah but still you're just gonna instant spawn no no you'll you'll still have match uh in between matches and stuff that's it takes a little while you gotta some of them i don't think end you got to see everybody's beautiful gun skins standing on their little podium and everything at the end of the round i'm not talking about matchmaking i'm talking about like server browser free for all oh i'm okay sure but even then when there's a map change i think there's like a like a like it's a winner thing?

Not very common. Then you should do really fast push-ups. I don't think that's a valid excuse. There are definitely games or there isn't enough time between.

Anyway, after repeated bends, the battery apparently became so compromised that it went up in smoke. And we've got a very, very, very brief

Marvel television ad. One moment. Please. Does anybody care anymore. No. Well, yes, but... Yeah.

Whoa! Okay. That's all I'm going to show you? You got to go watch on his channel. Because you're going to have to go watch the video on his channel. Yeah, yeah. Great video. Love Zach.

Does great work. Wow. This is the first phone that has failed in this way during Zach's durability testing. I Fixit's Elizabeth Chamberlain told The Verge, though, as dramatic as, as the battery fire is, we don't think this is necessarily a sign that something is wrong with the Pixel 10 Pro fold design. And something

that some random person on Reddit, I don't have the citation here because it's not in my notes, also noticed that, was that the phone was seemingly fully charged when Zach performed his bend test and the amount of charge, the charge state of the battery

impacts directly how much energy is stored in it and therefore what the risk of catastrophic failure could be until i would i would i would tend to agree until we start seeing more of these uh more of these failures in the wild i wouldn't necessarily go yeah that's why you shouldn't buy a pixel 10 pro fold um i would say there's plenty of other reasons not to buy a pixel 10 pro fold it's just it's gotten it's gotten ridiculous luke it's too expensive and to be clear this applies equally to Samsung's folding devices like we're talking

about by the time you know we account for currency conversion but even in US dollars we're talking about devices that by the time you you know pay sales tax on them they're getting dangerously close to a couple thousand US dollars I mean you know for us we're talking well over 2,500 Canadian dollars for a phone like when did this happen with the folds mostly I mean, phone prices have been creeping slightly, but I honestly don't think for a while. There was a, it feels like there was a relatively big jump a while ago, and since then they've been relatively flat. I think that big jump from my perspective, though, might have been pixels trying to catch up with Apple pricing. So I know there was news articles coming out talking about how Google was perceiving that their phones were valued as lower than iPhones because the price was lower.

so they actually raise the price for like marketing reasons also because it's nice to raise your price but like yeah part of it was legitimately being like no look we want to be in the same category i don't know if that's the entire problem google i i think the problem is one man how okay this is an interesting conversation how would you fix google's branding and positioning issue and to be clear i'm not saying that it's a universal problem like what's android's market share in like india it's like 90% or something like that i don't know that that number is quite right but it's like extremely one-sided in certain markets towards android but specifically in the u.s for younger u.s. buyers apple is dominant like absolutely

completely dominant and not because the price is higher the price is higher so that apple can be very profitable on all the iPhones that they sell to young Americans. The reason that they're able to command this pricing is because of the brand association that quite frankly, Google just doesn't have. Google doesn't have a sexy brand. And because of the way that Apple locks in their users through their social lives and, you know, not just in ways that you and I would kind of mock where people will be socially ostracized for not having an iPhone because that's the dumbest thing ever. But in ways that are even more effective than that, like it's not just the color of the bubble.

It's the fact that, you know, if you're the one person who doesn't have an iPhone, then your group chats, you know, won't work properly or whatever else. And theoretically, that is, you know, addressed through RCS, but I don't know what your experience has been like with RCS, mine's been a little bit inconsistent. And it fails over to classic SMS or MMS on not a frequent basis, but on a sometimes basis, on a more than I don't have a data connection right now basis. So it's just not quite, it's not quite there. The vast majority of people I talk to these days converse over Discord to the point where I know an entire company that I work with

closely often works entirely through Discord all of their employees talk through Discord a lot of the creators that I'll talk to you for Philippine and whatever else like to converse through Discord more than anything else Well the thing is that Discord is multi-platform That's always been my issue with I message

That's what I'm kind of saying is like I don't actually run into this very often Right Because not a ton of people that I talk to use texting You're not a teenage American boy it's weird that they're going back to texting I look I don't I don't get it either because to me the simple fact that an app is not multi-platform

makes it utterly irrelevant because I won't always be on that platform and it makes sense that in your social circle the the platform of choice would be discord because basically any gamer would have that exact same problem you're not going to be on your macbook or your iPad or your iPhone while you're playing video games a lot of these people are

professionals with like their photo is like them in business attire and their name is like their first name and then the business that they work for okay but are they gamers i don't know to be honest oh okay that's fair enough like actually genuinely don't know maybe that's fair enough but i i guess what i'm trying to say is okay i definitely see it for the gamer demographic but even if you just have to use a windows laptop for work then yeah it's like automatically The second you have to use any device that is not a Mac or an I something, then you just, you just, you can't just have all of your correspondences sequestered onto one ecosystem of devices if you ever have to touch another ecosystem.

Nepal is using it for voting for their country's leader. And they were using it for coordinating. Sorry, Discord? Yeah. And they were using it for coordinating their like, uprising. Is that the right? term hopefully oh yeah i mean discord was the primary thing used there wow but like what i'm what i'm wondering if i'm detecting is if android nerds use discord it's like what's the most popular type of phone in

nepal i mean it's not america so android probably that's what i'm assuming yeah i don't know that You will, that's great. Ploda in floatplain chat says, you mean literal discord. Yes. Yeah. Wow, an AI overview. Guess I just won't read that.

That's my new thing. I don't even know if it's new. Maybe I've even talked about it before. But I'm trying to have the discipline to not even read them. Nice. I know you can disable them. I know you can disable them. My general approach to using services, operating systems,

devices, is that I try to leave things pretty close to default because I'm trying to have the default user experience for the most part. So I have left them enabled, but that doesn't mean that I can't discipline myself to not read them. But I want to know how Google Search is generally working for most people as just a professional curiosity. Sorry, what were we looking at there? Apple was 25%. Okay. So, Xiaomi is 21.5. Samsung is 20 and then it's real me Vivo unknown right all the all the rest yeah yeah yeah makes sense so that's it a pixel 10 pro fold blew up um honestly I think the bigger issue is just pricing and I have no idea how this gets fixed because I mean Apple keeps being rumored

to be working on a folding phone as well and I could see Apple moving into folding phones pushing them into the mainstream more, increasing the volumes of these screens that need to be produced and therefore making them overall more affordable for everyone. Like I could see that being something that could cause them to become more affordable and more mainstream.

But while one of the theories out there is that the iPhone Air is kind of a first attempt at moving to like a thinner phone design so that Apple can eventually make folding device, I just don't really know if, I just don't really know if I see it happening anytime soon. Like, it's been rumored for so long, and it's been very clear what the issues with folding devices are, and those issues are not going away, and all of that's been going on for so long, that I just don't really see the light at the end of the tunnel. Like, the issues are

clearly around durability, hinge quality, scratch resistance of the screen. You've got on the very, very high end of Android, you've got these folding devices that you can almost scratch with a fingernail at a point. And then you've got Apple that's shipping devices that have screens that are so flipping hard that, you know, Zach, also Zach from Jerry Rig,

everything, had to kind of change his little spiel about lightly scratches and we moved a whole we moved a whole level up on most scale of hardness which is pretty darn cool yeah so are they going to give up those gains for what so that they can sell fewer iPads also a lot of people that I know that have folding phones end up just using the like skinny main screen well when you're typing it's better like I daily the fold three for ages typing it's better and a lot of times you just need to respond to something quickly and then put your phone away. Yep.

So you don't want to unfold it and go through this whole process. You just want to answer quickly. But, I mean, but the big screen, I mean, it's great for work. And it's great for a remote desktop. It's great for content consumption. It's great for reading, which also content consumption. But I think content consumption has sort of a connotation of like video. Yeah.

Or maybe, maybe games. I would say gaming probably doesn't fall under. I'd say that's its own. because you don't consume a game you interact with a game you know he's having to think there's no arguments that you interact with a video

as well he's having to think there's arguments that you interact with the video right now yeah are they interacting with this video right now okay well we're live that's different control the players we're live that's different you might chat but watching a live stream is definitely content consumption oh for sure

I want to move on This is making me uncomfortable. Capcom doesn't see the value in bringing back their original games. Last year, Capcom released the original versions of the first three Resident Evil's on PC.

But apparently, it took some real convincing from the folks at good old games. Per GOG's... I'm not even going to try. I'm going to butcher his name. So, sorry about that. Per Gog, Capcom said, We have all these remakes.

They're already a superior experience to those original games. So they really didn't see the value in bringing back the vanilla versions. GOG says that the re-releases have been a success, though, and have proved GOG's argument that gamers want the originals was correct. So our discussion question here is, do you think it's important to preserve the original versions of old games on modern platforms, even after modern remasters or remakes are released. I do think so.

I think so too. Yeah, I think sometimes people say like, oh, nostalgia glasses, rose tinted glasses, whatever. I think sometimes you do accurately remember what it was like and those graphics due to the nostalgia maybe or whatever else. I don't know, you might find those graphics charming for whatever reason and just want to play it how it was. And it's about more than just graphics.

I mean, back when I, huh, I, I didn't, I wasn't on top of it, so I didn't do it. But when, uh, Blizzard kind of removed, uh, their older, uh, Warcraft titles from GOG, because, you know, well, reforged is like, you know, better now or whatever. I, I had really, I didn't really want to give Activision Blizzard any money, but I really wanted to own those original versions of those games. And I didn't have my old CD keys or anything. And so I was like, I, I'm very tempted to pick up.

copies of these before I can't get them anymore because I don't necessarily want your fixed balance. Yeah. I don't necessarily want your enhanced experiences. And in the case of like, in the case of single player experiences, for instance, maybe you want to play the old

buggy version and mess around speed running. Maybe you want the controls to be clunky because that's more like what it was. Yeah, yeah. That's another really good point. And the reason that I actually picked this as a Wancho topic this week is that I'm about 30 hours into playing a remake of a beloved game for me that I played

when I was much younger, Final Fantasy Tactics. So the remake is called the Ivelace Chronicles, and they have improved a lot. Like the modern nice to haves, like when you're in a fight now, you can just go back to the world map, and you won't end up, like, there was a particularly notorious fight in this game where you are you have to win a battle and then you go into another battle like subsequently without being able to go back to the world map and like redo all your uh all your equipment or like grind a few more levels

whatever it is you might feel like you need to do you go straight into the second fight and you have to one v one a really powerful opponent who has initiative on you and like if you build your main character, which you would have no way of knowing to do, around winning this fight, you could end up essentially with a no progression state. If you didn't happen to save early enough to go back and grind up and learn useful abilities for this fight. Final Fantasy 6 had a few moments like that. Mm-hmm. So, you know, the new version of tactics has very much nice to have modern creature comforts that allow you to back out of that fight at that point, you obviously lose any

XP or items that you gained during this progression, but no matter what, it's got autosave, which is nice, you can just go back out and go do some stuff. But what I noticed is that some of the modern niceties have actually taken away from the game. They've made it so there's certain content that you can just skip. you can just not bother with so one of the things that they added that I've definitely felt was really nice is the ability to flee from random battles

so it used to be that as you were moving around on the world map every time you passed over a certain location anything but a city you could hit a random battle because it's final fantasy that's sort of a that's part of the game that's sort of a core element of final fantasy is the annoyance and frustration

and the grind of random battles. And so being able to skip them is great because when you go to the towns and you go to the tavern, there's these missions that you can send your party members off on and they'll come back with job points so they'll like level up their job abilities.

Which is like your class. Yeah, they'll get gold. So some of them can be extremely lucrative. And then you'll also find like random relics or whatever so you can become a treasure hunter. It doesn't really have any benefit, but it plays a nice, you know, dopamine-releasing music and your characters jump around and get excited about it,

so whatever, sure, great. But the way that you do these is you go to the town and then you assign a few of your random party members to go off on this mission, and then every dot that you go over on the map is one day. And the mission lasts for, usually anywhere from, like, nine to 14 days or kind of somewhere in that range. So the whole idea of this mechanic was that you had to build up a whole roster of party members

besides just your main five that you take into every fight because they're your best ones and they only become more bester the more that you use them because they'll continue to level up and level up and level up. So you had to maintain a larger roster so that you had guys to send a, on these missions and so that you could survive the random fights that you would go through before you could come get your guys back with all their their booty right well now you can just move around on the map for a little bit flee from all the fights and then just collect the golden job points so you didn't you didn't earn it that's why i mentioned my thing about controls um is like

in say the original starcraft you could only select a certain amount of units if i remember correctly in one drag select and then i don't remember remember, but was there bindable groups? I'm trying to remember, like, like shift one, shift two. Starcraft. Warcraft 3 definitely had it. Three, yeah. I don't remember if Starcraft had it.

The McGee says yes, Starcraft had it. I don't think Warcraft 2 had it. But maybe there was like different forms of it or something. But either way, there's like there's like microing shortcuts that kind of come in in later versions, which are a difficulty changer, 100%. so like having those old controls might feel worse sure but it might make the game easier right oh yeah which is like basically the thing that you're saying but it's it's slightly different is through the control route but it's like oh i've got one that's very similar sure so another really nice to

have is that in final fantasy tactics the original when you moved on the battlefield it would say are you sure and you'd be like yes You're moved. It's like chess rules. Once you let go of the piece, it's there. It doesn't matter if immediately go, oh, my God, no, no, oh, no. It doesn't matter. You're there.

And one of the things that made that really challenging was that depending on my zodiac sign and your zodiac sign and my specific characters, attributes, and yours, I could do dramatically different damage. with the same attack to one opponent versus another one. But once I moved, I couldn't know how much until I moved within range and made, and, like, lined up an attack. And then it would, and then it would predict, you know, how much damage I'm going to do. Got it. And that can be really important in a tactics game, because a difference of 10% in my damage

dealing could be the difference between a K.O. And over-extending myself and completely turning the tie. of the fight. Yeah. So in the remake, you can just, you can just shop around for the best move. So you can just move there and go, okay, how much damage can I do to that guy? No. Okay, now move there and then see how much damage I can do there.

And then I can undo my move. And I can do that as many times as I want, unless I have a certain ability equipped that is like a move find item or a move gain job points or like something like that. Like there's certain abilities that lock your. ability to unmove. That makes sense. But it makes it markedly, markedly easier. And the only way that they sort of countered all of this was by adding a more difficult

mode. They added a tactician difficulty. But they took the laziest possible approach to increasing difficulty where instead of enhancing the enemy AI, for instance, like it still does shockingly stupid stuff, they just nerfed my damage and buffed theirs. Yeah, I hate that. I hate just like number go up difficulty. Yeah.

Stuff. I mean, to a certain degree, sure, but I think one of the most egregious modern examples of that is the Oblivion remake, where there's like two difficulty levels. I don't remember what they are. I'm sure chat will know. They've been on a thing today. Where you jump up and it like doubles or triples the enemy HP. Like it's just a wild experience.

You play on one setting. It's like, wow, this is way too easy. You play on the other setting. It's like, okay. It feels like I'm playing. It's a brick wall. Yeah. And I just have to stab this.

Yeah, adept to expert. Sure, I don't know. You just have to stab things like, I don't know. You go from like one-shotting things to fights take three minutes. Like it makes no sense at all. And they recognize it pretty quick. And I think they said that they were going to change it.

But yikes. I mean, fights and I, I mean, I didn't play. I only played the original oblivion. But I know that I do remember. some fights just being a grind to the point where it's almost like immersion breaking oh yeah and then you have to because then it takes so long that you take a bunch of damage now you have to run and heal for a while so that adds to the total time and then well i just mean at a certain point it doesn't matter how tough you are if you're made of flesh and i'm holding a big giant metal sharp thing sure

there's only so many times and like you know the animation has blood coming off of you Like, it's just, there were these, um, the original far cry had these horrible, like, big brutes that show up towards the later stages of the game. And I remember being, I remember being stuck in this one point that was just incredibly frustrating because he had to kind of time it perfectly to get like, it was like multiple rockets you have to hit these stupid things with. And I'm just like, no, no matter what. you are. No matter how tough you are, if you are made of flesh and blood and bones, a rocket blows you up. Like, I'm, no, no. Bullets, fine. You know, you could, you could be shot a few times and you could still be just like, you know, methed up enough to keep moving towards me or something. Like I can, I can handle. There are some examples. Suspension of disbelief around that.

or you know you could be like you could have a few arrows in you and you could like rip it off and like come after me or whatever like sure you could have a grenade you know go off next to you and it blows off your arm or whatever but you still like you're not you're a zombie or something you stagger towards me and you like grab onto me i can i can get behind me of that closed the artery while it blew your arm off a rocket launcher to the face like i still it's like one of those really old memories because i could have been no older than like when did far cry come out like I was I was like 16 or something right like it but I still remember it even though that was yeah exactly even though that was 21 years ago because I was just so mad because I died on this section a bunch of times I finally came up with an idea I was like okay I have like I have one rocket and then I got my shot off like perfectly I hit him in the face with it and I'm like okay surely that must have and I'm dead and it's just like that's not fun and you can you can limit the difficulty in other ways you can make you could make a rocket really hard to aim you know you make the crosshair move sure you could severely restrict the ammo

because it was already an issue in that game where you couldn't just like like carry an unlimited number of weapons and stuff you so you could limit the number of weapons that I can carry I can only carry two weapons and so and I can only carry two rockets yeah so taking the rock laundry is like a huge ammo risk. Yeah, just, just this huge, there's huge downsides to it, or whatever. Find, like, find another way to fix the balance, but be more creative than just. HP go up. HP go up. Yeah. It's not fun. Yeah. Unless you're the kind of person who just really enjoys that. In which case, we want to hear from you. I'm kidding. I don't. Yeah, I was like, uh, no, it's, it's lazy. No, it's lazy design. It's lazy design. What are we talking about?

What topic are we on? Capcom not seeing the value of... Yeah, I think having original versions is cool, for sure. Our discussion topic here from Mr. Gautier is, why are some devs averse to re-releasing older games without touching them too much? Are they being lazy? Are they being cheap?

Are they scared the original is so janky, it could scare off potential buyers? That one, I think. I could see that one. I think that's the main one. I think if you're releasing this game on GOG, I think you're safe from that. I think so, too. I mean, that's what I think.

But you never know. I mean, brands are funny about their brands. Because when you launch that game, it's still going to be a big giant Capcom when you launch it. And so if they're kind of sitting there going, well, I mean, yeah, we were pretty proud of that 25 years ago. But the games industry has sort of moved on. And I could see people, you know, creating a negative association. between our brand and this like frustrating janky experience i i've heard i've heard dumber arguments around brand use yeah for sure i just think uh they also need to

understand the positive association that would come with doing this and doing this the right way which i think i think is releasing it through geog but that's that positive association is to a completely different person though the positive association is with the nostalgia crowd or with the diehards who just love the franchise and they want to go experience it the way that it was or something like that. Whereas if almost literally anyone else ended up with this game, there's a really solid chance they wouldn't like it. Like I wouldn't have given my son original Final Fantasy tactics because it like didn't explain anything. You just kind of get dumped into it. You've no idea what to do. It's super frustrating. Was that a manual game? Was that

like a yeah so like unless you have I mean you could like maybe find a PDF and print off a replacement or something but unless you have the manual it's not the same experience I think that's like surprisingly easy to forget it's like experiencing something

from that long ago now is difficult to truly make the same because you kind of need everything that came with experiencing that to experience it properly good old VIMS layer Final Fantasy Tactics Manual That's awesome actually

Here it is Oh it's really slow Cool That makes sense I wonder if a few people looked it up Yep Nice That's cool

Man manuals were pretty cool dude Okay Okay but like okay look at this look at this though like this is crazy in the new version they explain the importance of picking your zodiac sign like they they explain it quite a bit here enter the adventure i don't know brov just go for it after entering your character's name enter your birth date on the next screen in similar fashion using the start button to confirm your birthday will affect zodiac sign

which has an influence on your character's performance during battles see page 10 but they're just like yeah just yeah go for it well what's on page 10 all right if it has a full matrix then i will be then i'll think it's okay uh uh yeah yeah is this not page 10 because this looks like page 10 but i don't think we've scrolled enough times for it to be page 10 uh uh yeah no not that not that useful cool the the Vim thing says you're on page like seven now or something yeah well we can three chat's saying three but the corner said 10

yeah well cool chat's saying three let's try three let's try three I'm gonna hear you out chat nope that's definitely not it all right I don't know what they mean by three neat are they both missing three anyway the point is I've literally no idea what they're saying no it's a j as in jack i have actually no idea what they're saying j not three

what does j mean j as in j oh like section j on page 10 oh oh oh oh oh oh okay here here here yeah okay this symbol indicates the unit's zodiac sign if the unit attacks an enemy with a compatible sign damage will be increased uh if signs are incompatible damage is decreased

press the select button during battle to bring up a help menu and check the Zodiac sign compatibility. Okay, okay. You know what? That's actually pretty okay. I will say, though, that this is a flippin... This is dense.

This is not user-friendly. This is not for kids. And this is just, in some cases, indicating where to go to bring up a help menu built within the game that is also not got the greatest translation. You liked it. it not for kids or is it not for kids now i don't know and i don't know how i liked it i really

like i'm thinking back to some of my first experiences playing this game like i didn't i didn't know how to change your i didn't even know how to learn my favorite game ever is morrowint i didn't know it had a main quest yeah for months okay this is my morrowind yeah like i ended up against a brick wall in this game because i didn't actually twice within the first few battles because i didn't know how to learn additional abilities and I didn't know how to because I didn't have the manual actually I played it on an emulator for the first time. So that's a big part of the reason that I bought this was because I needed to give Square Soft, Square Enix now, but I needed to give them money for it at some point because I'd already played the game a few times. So I didn't have a manual. So I didn't

know that you could like learn new abilities. And so I just got really frustrated because I kept coming up against tougher and tougher enemies that had all these like amazing abilities and they could do magic and shit and I'm like okay so when do I level up and then I didn't figure out changing jobs for a while either so I don't know how I figured out how to play this game to be honest with you because it's very deep very complicated I think sometimes that's what you want as a kid you think so you want to fight with something and like force learn it and impart your will onto it

despite it being complicated and hard maybe part of it is just like having time at that stage in your life yeah you have tons of time you have all the time you need a good rioja in float plane chat says I played excom apocalypse when I was eight and finished it I went back to it a few years ago I have no idea how I did that yeah but you have

almost no responsibilities tons of time and yeah a desire to pick things apart and learn things that is like almost on parallel I really didn't realize when I was in it how much free time I had when I was a kid like I felt like I did a lot of chores and honestly I did a fair amount of chores and stuff but it's the it's like the mental load I was never thinking about that stuff when I had my free time when I had my free time, my brain completely switched over, and I was free. I remember thinking when I was a kid at one point in time that I was really excited to be an adult because then I wouldn't have homework, therefore more time.

Yeah, homework is just practice for working at home. And like at a, and I fully understand that in a lot of work positions, you can turn off being at work when you are not at work anymore. I will say that once you are at, you know, director, VP, executive C-suite level. Most people I know, they just effectively are working all the time. Yeah, no, it just doesn't like that, no, that's not how it works. Yeah, and Ninja Man O-Way says, yeah, not in teaching.

Well, yeah, there's, so there's lots of, there's lots of jobs where, um, do get kind of like the summer in teaching yes so i mean it depends um that's also fair not with your current wages because now you got to do summer school or some other job coming from a family of teachers i definitely have some thoughts on how educators compensation has scaled over my lifetime and uh i definitely know some educators with families who definitely do not have summers off because not because they have to teach at school but because they have to find some other job you know uh teach badminton classes or do something else so that's a whole separate conversation especially when we consider the importance of teachers role in society yeah um you should want them being pretty good you should

really want them to be like awesome um especially when you consider How many things a teacher needs to be awesome at, like, they've got to teach, yes. Well, and you never know when you're like sideswiped by some random question about something that isn't your field. They need to be, you know, counselors sometimes. They need to be mediators sometimes. They're expected to be these like jack of all trades, especially in elementary school. They're expected to teach like every subject. They have to be, you know, somewhat athletic so they can like teach PE.

but also they need to know math and English and everything else and yeah yeah next topic sure Dan what do you want us to do because that's two main topics I mean we can move over to some CW announcements

Dan you just tell us what to do I mean do we have a lot of topics yeah why not let's do the CW announcements have anything. This is the man that is truly in charge. Yep. He said CW announcements. Oh, right.

He commanded. I don't know where to find them. Jump. In the middle. I don't know where to find them. In the middle. Dan, I don't know how to do this show. They're at the middle.

They're at the very top. Yeah, they're at the top, Dan. Oh, because there's no main topics. Yeah, we don't have main topics this week. They're at the top. CW announcements. Note. Oh, my God.

What? Chad is making me very tired today. No, you just seem. really tired today. Are you cranky? You seem cranky and tired. You've said that every week for so long. Well, maybe you should, especially this week. Maybe you should sleep a little more and eat a bit more. My goodness. Are you very tired today? I am a little tired. My wrist is like debolished. Oh, from your your project. Have you talked to them about that? I'm trying to remember. I don't think super extensively. Okay. Talked a little bit.

Do you want to talk about that? You don't have to. Not particularly. I don't think it's that interesting. I mean, it's kind of sucks. It's kind of interesting. I think it's interesting. Why don't you tell the people about it? Okay. So my place, as with basically every place you're going to get, most likely, was purchased off of someone else. In my situation, that person passed away, so it was an estate sale. The estate was dissolved shortly after the sale.

so there's nothing for us to go after, but there was a bunch of undisclosed damage that we learned through the strata. I have been told that for Americans, that's the homeowners association. HOA, yep. I don't know if that's true for apartments still or whatever. I think it's kind of the same idea.

Sure. People generally know what an HOA is. Yeah. We call it a strata. It's that thing, but for an apartment building or a condo building. I was informed through that that my unit had a bunch of,

leaks in it with the previous owner. We thought that that was centralized to one location and that it was dealt with a while ago because we dealt with it a while ago. Turns out it was not because there was more than one set of leaks that happened. We solved the one set of leaks that happened. Turns out there was a second set of leaks that happened. What about second weeks? We're pretty sure because they did tell us this much. They told us to not use the dishwasher when we moved in, because the seal was not good. Yeah. We're pretty sure that they learned the seal was not good by it flooding the house.

Nice. And they didn't say that part. Right. So how our unit works. I'm going to use some, I'm going to do some really good paint. This is going to be amazing. This is great. Jay Fife in float plane chat goes HOA's, aka the League of Extraordinary Cairns.

Yeah, it's crazy, dude. I wanted, so we have a mini split in my unit. So that's an air conditioner. Yeah, and I wanted to have a second head, so a second fan thing that makes it cold. Yeah, in that. Sure. And basically, we wanted two rooms to be aced instead of just one room. And we were told no.

Right. Because the unit that goes outside, do you say doesn't know? Oh, you just switch back. That makes sense. The unit that goes outside is mounted like in a certain spot. Oh, wait, internet. um and it would have had to move for reasons and been somewhere else and i demonstrated with art like decent art actually really how i would have made it like this no oh okay how i would have made it

not bothersome to the other people right right right right um and they still were just like nope no one else has done it or can do it so you can't do it so my problem is that it feels like we have, man, this is going way off the rails now, but I feel like we have a bit of a societal problem right now where saying no is easy. Yeah. And problem solving is hard, but saying no sucks and solving, problem solving means that you have solved a problem. And I just, I feel like somehow, And I've gone through this, so, I've gone through so much bureaucracy in the last 13 years. Running a business, you just come up against bureaucracy as just part of your daily life. And I think that it has been the single most aging, tiring, just life-draining part of,

of being alive for the last 13 years. It's like dealing with other annoying people? Well, it's not, it's not even that they're annoying, right? Because they're not, they're not, sure, but they're not trying to be annoying. They just, it's, it's through incompetence or laziness or apathy, sometimes stupidity, they don't actually understand the question. and then that stupidity plus apathy is a really potent combination in a bureaucrat because they don't understand and they don't really care to understand

which is just it's a brick wall and I just it's at the point now where it's such an obstacle to getting anything done I mean look at how long it took us to get whale land done and that was with a lot of support And so I want to take a moment to shout out the city of Surrey, actually, because of the people there that were very helpful and helped us overcome the apathetic, lazy, sometimes seemingly malicious individuals that stood in the way. Because it was fine to do Whale Land. And we did a Whale Land. The video is coming. And it was great.

And it was fun. It was awesome. and it was a boon to the city. So even with the mayor on board and the council on board and thinking this is a good idea, just the amount of bureaucratic obstruction that could be put in place by sometimes just one person from project to project, right?

Like you never know when, bam, it's going to hit you. And someone just had a bad day one day and said no and is a principled person who, once they've decided something, expects that that's just the decision now. And it's like, no is not going to work here. Like, we need a solution, and you can either be part of the solution or you're an obstacle. Those are, it's kind of binary here.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, that's horrible. And it's like, it's not the end of the world. Okay, so what? Luke can't have two heads on his mini split. He's not going to die. It's not that kind of horrible. But it's just, it's draining. It drains your life force.

There is a problem in my unit where the building that we're in, and I'll say this bit because I know other buildings have this problem, it's in BC, I think it's BC law. I could be wrong, I don't know. You're not allowed to smoke within a certain amount of feet of buildings. Yeah. But. Because air quality, et cetera.

Our building has allowed smoking on your like, balcony thing. Right. So genuinely, if we have any window open, if the sliding doors open anything for any amount of time, like, I mean, at four in the morning. It doesn't matter. Any time. Just, I don't know if it's how, like, things are shaped or what, but like all of it seems

to flow directly into our unit. It's crazy. I was going to, I was going to, this is, I was going to the bathroom yesterday. And I yelled out to Emma, being. like I feel like I'm literally smoking weed right now because like there was so moat so much secondhand smoke coming into our unit so that's why you're so sleepy maybe maybe you're just still actually high maybe I'm still high yeah no I don't think so but I was going to do the way on the show but then I got high I didn't mean to but then I got high um yeah I know it's it's it's terrible so

we don't want like I even tried I built this like insulated box thing I don't know if you've even seen it, but maybe. Rock wall inside of a wooden, long, tall, wooden vertical box that I put in the sliding glass door, that you can even move the latch from the wall to this box so you can latch the door on it. And then feed through an AC tube for like a rollable AC thing. It still leaks a little bit too much

and you can get smoke in the house. And I won't die from it. I'll be fine. The birds will. So it's like, ah, so we want another mini split. One of the greatest things about this whole thing is one of the key people that was arguing against letting me do it was complaining not that long ago

about how hot the main area in their unit is, which is the exact area that I was trying to add an AC head to because none of the units our entire building have any AC in that room and the only window in that room for our entire building is the sliding glass doors. So there is not an easy way to do it. You idiot.

Like I can't. it's so annoying well Luke at least it's very rare for people to vote against their own self-interest at least it doesn't happen

very often okay well my amazing art is done and this isn't going to make any sense so let me explain it So this area here is, say, an apartment that is built like mine. And I'm probably going to get things screwed up. Sorry, Trady's in the chat.

The black outline lines are walls, all of these walls, including there's this, like, there's a room here, and let's say there's a door right there. All of these walls, including this wall in between, there's this gap, this display that I have on the left here. So the right hand side is lightweight concrete. So the whole unit that we're on, all the individual rooms have their own slab of lightweight concrete. And then there's a gap, which is half an inch wide, two and a half inches deep, roughly, very roughly. The amount wide changes quite a bit as you go along, but it's roughly half an inch wide and fairly accurately two and a half inches deep.

On the other side of that is a piece of wood. this black bar in the middle is expansion joint material and then the red thing decently deeply down but in there is a nail because they nail the expansion joint material to the wood and then they pour the lightweight concrete the lightweight concrete goes directly against the expansion joint material and kind of fuses to it.

So the first task that we had was opening all the drywall so that we could access this trench and then we had to exact a knife down each side because the cement would kind of fuse with it and the the wood side wouldn't fuse with it too much except there was supposed to be adhesive on that side so you'd have to cut through the adhesive on one side

and then cut through the concrete cement whatever fusing on the other side and then it would be fused to the bottom often as well but if you released both the sides you could like pry it out with this weird thing that I'd do with a knife which was strenuous and tiring but eventually we got the whole place done

and then we had to put closed cell foam backer rod so high density closed cell foam and then like tubes basically and we had to shove those in the hole the reason why we had to do that is because the like real solution isn't acquireable by normies oh I hate that

when you're not allowed to buy the proper thing because you did a ton of research on this called up repair shops there's a place in Ontario that was like considering shipping it to us and like giving me a contractor number temporarily yeah I was gonna say usually you can like when I

when I was trying to get paint for my bike you just have to find a place that there was a couple places locally that were unwilling to do it I think mostly because I think they didn't have it on hand so they were going to have to like order stuff in and they didn't want to order stuff in for me if I wasn't like a contractor bro but this other place I think had it on hand

so they were like we don't love this but we can ship it to you the problem was it wasn't going to get it to us in time so we came with this backer rod solution we checked it with a few people they said it should be fine it will help with the whole expansion situation right

but it's not perfect but it's pretty good and we could do it in time, so it sounds good. But I had to shove this backer rod, which is oversized and a circle into this rectangular trench, and I had to shove it all the way down into the trench. Literally round peg square hole. Yeah, and then I had to do another one because you wanted to pretty much fill this trench. Yeah, you can't have an air gap in there. Ideally, no.

So I have to put at least two, the most I ever had to do was four. But almost all the time it was two, like over 90% of time it was two. Yeah, okay. And I had to shove it in like that and I had to do the entire house and it's like very difficult to get in there usually Unless the trench gets really wide for a second and then it just plops right in right But usually it's pretty hard to get in there So for double-digit amount of hours I was basically shoving as hard as I could like this with my hands down into the trench

Right And mostly with my right one because more coordinated and stronger and I just torched the tendons of my wrist It is yeah so i don't know i went to physio um and he said that like the strength is still there and things are generally fine um like i can move like this right and i can move like that right and i can move like this yep but if i made a fist and then pulled it in it hurts a lot right right um so no doing that for a week a week and a half somewhere around there okay But you're done anyway, right?

Yeah, pretty much. So the, that stuff is, oh, yeah, ouch, that wasn't great. Podcast injury. I'm trying to gesture and I just, oh. Doing, doing that stuff. Oh, right, what I was going to say, I didn't explain this part.

So the flooding that probably happened from the dishwasher, but we don't know, wasn't a crazy amount of water. So it didn't like seep into the floor or get under the floor. floor but it flowed enough that it poured over into these trenches basically around the entire place yeah and rotted out all this expansion joint material yeah so there was a little bit of mold but it was mostly just a ton of rotten material a wrist brace might be helpful uh yeah i got one physio guy said to not wear it all the time because i'm supposed to actually use it i'm supposed

to move it right like i was doing this earlier in the show i'm supposed to do this right where i was wondering what you were doing yeah yeah so i'm doing the little exercises. I was like, oh, that's weird. I'm a good boy with the physio exercises. I actually do them. That's good. Yeah. So I have other ones that I'm supposed to do as well. So I'll make sure I'm keeping on top of those. But yeah, the expansion joint material was rotten. And that was bad for a few reasons. One of them was because it was promoting mold growth. Yeah. So it looked black. It was not black mold. We got it tested. There was no black mold. Oh. There was actually like white mold and some other stuff. Okay. It wasn't good, but it wasn't like, oh, God.

evacuate the house immediately bad. Okay. So, but we didn't want it to get there. So get the rotten material out, get new stuff in. Do you have an ETA for when your place is livable again? Livable to the point where I don't have to sleep, but my parents is hopefully Monday. Really? Yeah.

So the progress is since then drywall is back up. Yeah. So the, the holes were bad material taken out, good material putting in, put in, put in. And then the drywall was put back to, like, seal it. we have someone helping with the finishing so mudding and sanding and all that kind of stuff and that is like almost done he thinks he'll be done by Saturday and then we're hoping to paint two rooms the two rooms that would have carpet in it and then carpet people are coming in Monday nice and then we'd be able to like put the bed back nice and I could set up a desk nice some basic stuff like

that and that will be like a enormous improvement I noticed today on Steam, because a buddy sent me a Steam key for a game that he was working on, I haven't launched a game on Steam since the 18th of last month. Yeah. Which is like, whoa. A month. I was telling Emma, I think this is the longest I've gone without using a desktop of my own since I was probably like eight.

That actually makes sense. It's been like a month and a half. Like the last thing I launched on Steam wasn't even on my desktop. I was on a trip and I think I launched like Slayless By or something. like it's been a long time adulting yeah just wow

all right yeah um so yeah I miss this are you just helping but you're land no I own the place um

which is like cool and also totally sucks yeah it's a funny assumption that like Luke is poor he's just cheap

it is a really, really big difference. I think other people have problems with spending money. I don't think I'm cheap. Okay. I think Luke identifies his poor. No, I don't.

No, he doesn't. I really don't. He really doesn't. I don't actually understand where this comes from. But there is a not insignificant. amount of the LTT community that, like, thinks Luke is poor. Yeah, frugal. Yeah, I prefer frugal.

Some people in the, there was a, there was a LNG clip on this recently, and a bunch of people in the comments are saying it's, it's frugal. No, he's not a miser either, because Luke spends money on other people. He just doesn't, he doesn't spend money on the kinds of things that it feels like our society encourages us to spend money on. I don't care about a lot of those things. No, I get it. I totally get it.

I just, uh, it just, it, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and like someone in chat says, Luke is just smart with his money. I don't even want to take that necessarily. Yeah, I don't actually think that that's quite the case either. Because if Luke was smart with his money, there's a lot of, okay, how do I say this? there's I know how much money Luke makes

and I know how much he spends and because we're also friends in addition to me being his employer and so therefore knowing how much money he makes I know how little work his capital is doing for him there are some reasons for that I know I know and that's and that's totally valid um however i i i i hmm i okay and the thing is in some ways i'm just as bad as him like both of us have

i would argue worse because you don't have the same limitations both of us have completely missed out on like this recent stock market bull run oh yeah for instance oh yeah and i just want to disclaim all of this you know none of this is financial advice this is not financial advice um so you know right but there's been like an incredible you know stock bowl market for for an extended period of time here and there's been some fairly obvious plays um but you know because of our position as tech influencers and because of i don't want to be invested in an invidia i think we i think that would be bad i think we both also tend to have a bit of uh a bit of a bit of a bit of a one in the hand versus two in the bush sort of mentality. I think that's part of it.

I think that part of it is is just, I think part of it is growing up poor, like growing up without money. Yeah. Yeah. And I think people, I tell that story. That was a relatively short period of my upbringing. We were fine most of the time. But like that bit, was at a formative time and made me think about money in a certain way. Like, I mean, not long after that time, I blew everything I had on a computer. Like, and, and we were both, let's be real. We were both young dudes, you know, and definitely wasted money on things. Oh, yeah.

Let's be very clear. But I think that in general, like, we both experienced times when there was real scarcity. Yeah. I guess that would be the best way to kind of describe it because, like, I was never on the verge of complete homelessness or anything like that, but there were definitely, there were times of scarcity. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so recognizing the very real possibility that, like, money could be gone and, and there would not be any more coming, I think put both of us in a position where what you have in the bank seems a lot more important than what you could get out there if you deployed it, if you took it out of the bank and with inflation going the way that it is like the money that we've had sitting in the bank has been rotted. Yeah.

Like to a degree that makes me genuinely pretty uncomfortable to think about like how much of it has just rotted. Yeah. Like man, it's, it's, I. I still, like I went through a period for a bit there. Sorry, one second. I just want to address this really quickly. McBain said, regarding investing in Nvidia,

better me have the money than somebody else. Yeah, but like I do stuff with the lab. Yeah, it's just not good. I don't want to be invested in India. Yeah. It just, I don't want that. Not that I don't think I could handle that like potential conflicting interest thing. I don't think that would be a problem for me at all,

to be completely honest. but I just don't even want anyone thinking it I'm just not going to mess around with that apparently this is a whole thing the psychology of scarcity explores how deprivation wreaks havoc on cognition and decision making being poor requires so much mental energy

that those with limited means be they sugar cane farmers in India or New Jersey mallgoers are more likely to make mistakes and bad decisions than those with bigger financial cushions that actually makes a ton of sense I think there's also like I don't know there's comfort levels

I don't necessarily think that being a risk averse is a bad decision I don't think that maximizing the potential value play over under on every dollar that you have is necessary no no I don't I don't think it's necessary

and the comfort and like no I should be doing more with my stuff for sure there's certain limitations whatever we don't need to get into that um me too but uh assuming I did do some of it I still wouldn't do a ton yeah because the comfort of just

I'm good is like really nice and I see value in that and I don't only see value in dollar numbers which I some people do and I don't see it that way I see like comfort lack of concern not needing to check the stock market twice a day every day all the time those types of things is like it's kind of nice like I remember I knew some people that made a lot of money off of crypto I had some crypto for a bit hanging out with those people it's it was all that I when it was going up it was all I could think about and when it was going down it was like super all I could think about and I wasn't even in super heavy or anything we were just talking we were just this perfect actually we're just talking about playing games when you're younger

and how you can like actually just think about the game yeah like no not anymore not if you're leveraged into something not if your livelihood and you're like eating next month relies on some some relies on a game you're playing yeah um relies on like somebody associated to the company that you're invested in not saying something crazy yeah or doing whatever or saying something crazy and it mooning anyway sure whatever right yeah because i got to say man this the stock market feels more just meme stock and gambling than ever. And that's something that we've talked about

extensively on the show, how it just feels like gambling right now. Asian says that gold Xbox controller, though. Okay, that was a calculated risk. It's probably made money. It was an amount that I was very comfortable, you know, depreciating a little bit. And, oh, yes, it's definitely made money.

Yeah. What would you look up? Gold index or what? Goldprice.org. is the best one that I've found. Oh, yeah, I guess we could do that. These are one days. Let's look at, how long do you think it's been?

Five years? When did, yeah, when did we make the gold controller? Oh, that's silver. Hold on. Five years. Boom! Hold on, when did we make the gold controller? Four years ago.

Yeah, so five years is the closest I can get because it's one and then, five or one two five so yeah i think the gold controller did okay uh it was like over doubled in value yeah i think the well we spent like 20 grand on the like craftsmanship of it or something like 15 something it was it was like many many many many labor hours how much was the value of just the gold i don't disclose i don't remember i think it's in the video but i don't remember the exact i don't remember how many ounces sure went into it yeah um that was like kind of a minor detail in my mind.

You know what? They ended up... Certain people in chat are like, Cy, this is why you have a financial advisor company. Yeah, and a lot of them would say just invest everything in Big Seven. And I would not want to do that. Oh, dude, I would be...

That is not an automatic solve-all. I'd be terrified. Yeah. I'd be terrified to throw everything into Magnificent Seven right now. And this is not financial advice. A bunch of them are. That is a thing.

This is not financial advice. You're making assumptions. I'm literally not. I know people that have done this because of financial advisors. I'm actually not making an assumption. I was actually chatting with CEO, Mr. Taron Tong, the other day. And I was sending him this article. Research by Mark Zandi, the chief economist of Moody's Analytics,

showed earlier in this year, and again recently, that the top 10% of earners in the U.S. are responsible for just under 50% of all consumer spending. Like, I've been trying to wrap my brain around this for a little while. How LTT store sales.

Chat's driving me insane today. No, they do the investing. That doesn't change anything. If that's what they're just going to do, that doesn't change anything. There's also a problem right now where you invest, you might be investing in companies that are cyclically invested in the big seven.

So it's like it doesn't even really matter. Like it's there are absolutely ways to do it properly. Well, properly. And there are ways that I would be more down with and there are advisors that will think more of the way that I would like to think. And you can also explain to them that you want to approach it a certain way. And they might do it in that way. And that's cool.

And there's also fees that come along with that. And that might be bad. And who knows and whatever. And it doesn't matter. Go away. Ninja Man away says Not the right people to talk to about this It's weird to see Linus be the calm one

And Luke getting angry at the chat I told you he's grumpy today He's tired To get some rest guy It's fine he's good So what I was gonna So right I've been trying to wrap my brain around

Like how things are pretty Pretty tough right now In general Like you've got you know Dollar giant mooning Because way more people Are shopping at the dollar store which, by the way, there is nothing wrong with shopping at the dollar store.

One of my kids made an offhand comment about, like, shopping at the dollar store or something like that. Or where were we? No, we weren't at the dollar store. We were, yeah. No, we weren't at the dollar store, but we were somewhere. We were at Walmart. That's right. We were at Walmart because I promised her like a daddy-daughter day, and she could pick any activity she wanted and she wanted to make slime.

so Walmart is the place that I know that I can get boxes of borax because Superstore doesn't carry it or they didn't the last time I checked and I didn't feel like going to a dozen different places so we went to Walmart so we picked up some borax some white glue and we didn't need food coloring we already had that the point is you don't care about the ingredients to slime you care about the story maybe or you don't I don't know you're watching when show so who knows the point is that we were there and she wanted to get something I forget what it was but it was something that I basically was like

no, we'd be better off getting that at the dollar store. And she goes, well, wouldn't it be a worse one? And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. No, the place that you buy something does not indicate the quality of it. You can buy Campbell's Soup at the dollar store. You can buy Campbell's Soup at some bougie supermarket, and they are the exact same thing as long as, oh, okay, Campbell's Soup is canned, so I wouldn't even worry about the expiry date. Like, sometimes you can get food stuff that are closer to the expiry date at the dollar store,

so you do kind of have to watch for that. but if it is the same product then no you just get it wherever you get the best deal there is no there's no better status in buying something at a fancier store and paying more for it it's just not something that I'm ever going to believe in

um how did I get on this topic again can't remember no not was before that chat might remember Yes. Top 10% earners spend 50% of consumers spend. Right, right, right, right. So I was talking about dollar giant. So dollar giant is like doing great because more and more people are resorting to shopping at the dollar store, which I just wanted to make clear is not a problem. Shopping at the dollar store is totally fine. But for a lot of people, where they shop is part of their self-worth equation, I suppose. And so they're, you know, they only shop at the dollar store during hard times apparently. I'm like, okay, sure, whatever.

I will never be too cool to shop at the dollar store. I give you my personal Linus Tech Tips guarantee of that. And so I've been trying to figure out, okay, so with things being tough, and there being all of these indicators, right, that things are tough, I've been trying to figure out why, like, LTT store sales are not falling. Like, why LTT store is still doing fine.

And so I saw this, and I was like, holy crap, I had no idea how one-sided it was. I didn't realize consumer spending would track that way. Oh, like, like that much though. That's wild. Anyway, so he countered with S&P 500 is basically S&P 10 because the top 10 companies are about 40% of the value and have been responsible for 70% of the index growth. So when you, so I had a, I had kind of an annoying conversation, well, I shouldn't say

annoying conversation with Yvonne because she was just the messenger, but I was annoyed about a conversation I was having with Yvonne because she was talking about some investment service or something and she basically goes, yeah, so like they just recommend like this S&P thing. And I go, okay, that's fine. But there are a hands. handful of companies in the S&P that I think are just ludicrously, like, overvalued bubble. The fundamentals of this company make absolutely no sense. One of the ones that I'll name is Tesla. I think Tesla's valuation is just bat-shut crazy right now.

They are really struggling to sell cars that is only going to get worse as the U.S. subsidies go away. as the Chinese market, just effective, like, dumping from domestic Chinese companies continues and as they continue to struggle to compete in Europe, like, it is, it is not looking good for Tesla's car business. And sure, fine, Tesla's an AI company or something, and they make humanoid robots, but like, sorry, what is Optimus's compete level like right now? Bad? And what is it? the indication that that will get better? Nothing? Not much, yeah.

Okay, sure. And then the whole AI thing, right. So Tesla is a super duper, de duper AI company, but also, you know, when they're supposed to get GEs, sorry, GEs, when they're supposed to get GPUs,

they just get sort of unilaterally redirected to other companies like, you know, XAI that are also, you know, predominantly owned by overlapping ownership. groups. The whole thing is just a complete smoke and mirror show. And so I wanted absolutely no exposure to it. And they basically, the response is just like, well, we don't do that. And I go, okay, well, then I don't do whatever your thing is. Because I don't want any exposure to that. And that was even before I realized just how bad it is. The top 10 companies, 40% of the

value, 70% of the growth. So this like, bowl. run that's taken place over the last little while here has been driven by predominantly the AI. And they're cyclical investing as well. To be clear, I did not just call it the AI. I was going to say the AI bubble, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to use the B word. Sure. But there's the like, it seems like a bubble. Not investment advice. X amount of money goes from Open AI to Oracle. X amount of money goes from Oracle to Infidio. Oh. X amount of money goes from Nvidia to open AI. Dude. Big circle thing. This is also not the first time we've seen this happen. I saw the funniest post on here.

This is amazing. Dan, I'm sending this to you to bring up on the show. Dude, you're going to, you're going to freaking love this. Where is Dan the? There's also the like the, I think fairly old school. Like, I'm going to get the numbers wrong. But I think it's like 20% per sector maximum, 5% per company maximum. If it goes above any of that, sell it off.

until it gets down to that number blah blah blah blah thing and that's all cool but there's unless you're watching it decently close i think there's issues with that because of like what i was mentioning earlier where all these companies are kind of tied into each other in a variety of different ways uh no i want you to throw it up on screen yeah just get get me that photo carousel because luke you're going to love this um this is a meme that i caught over on wall street bets uh earlier today this card game would be lit. Dan, you ready? That's fine.

Just throw up the page. It doesn't really matter. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's got this. This actually made me laugh out loud, and then I showed it to a couple of other people on set, and they actually lo-led.

It's a big problem right now. Oh, dude. It's a huge problem. Dude, it's wild. There is a money sink happening, because there's a little bit of loss every time that moves around. no it gains it multiplies every time it moves around as far as I can tell of because it pulls out from

investors yeah yeah yeah yeah hit it love this uh you might have to zoom it a bit so we can see the cards ah yeah I see where this is going yeah no no give us more time give us more time Luke doesn't read so fast yeah I did read this but yeah that is a problem Economic Ouroboros. I love it. Fantastic. Okay, next. Oh, man. It's Jim Kramer.

Legendary creature, human, to the opposite. That's fantastic. Power zero, wisdom minus two, charisma nine, very loud. Seconds before it crashes. The stock is go to the mood. That's great. Oh, man.

Yeah, yeah, hit me. Immediately has your portfolio. Oh, man. That's pretty good. It's like, I absolutely love this subreddit, not because I actually want to invest any of my money in anything right now. The one that's missing is Nana's inheritance. So we've got ghost grandma,

forces player to buy overvalued stock, reduces total value of portfolio. Leo by 30%. Oh, man. Oh, man. This has been active all day. There's a Jerome Powell card now. Ability, money printer, go burr. Effect bagholder. Target's opponent gains unmarketingable assets. Transitory. All effects are temporary. Maybe. Oh, man. Okay. Anyway. It's a wild world right now. that legitimately sounds like an outstanding card game but just like it'd be like the Calvin ball of card games because I just feel like there'd be no rules and nobody wins you know you could totally make that game work maybe I think you I think you could you think so

like a finance a finance deck builder game I think you could it's so funny I guarantee you like all this is just like AI generated like slop but that doesn't change that it's super funny. You know that might do pretty okay if you if you make it right now. It's so top of it. Oh my god there's so many

more cards than when I looked at it earlier Luigi time trap card the target stock loses half its value and activated Oh man I do want to take a moment In spite of the fact that he's laughing

To point out that murder is not an answer Okay That's an important thing for us to get out there Merch messages Sure Is that what we're supposed to be doing? I think that's what we're supposed to be. This is going to be my third or fourth attempt at starting the creator warehouse announcements.

Yes. Note, samples of underwear and pet bandanas are on the table, and an example of a utility shirt is hanging on the right of linens. Behind your, and then the one of the far right, I think. Oh, what? Are we launching this much stuff today? I have no idea. Okay.

Seems like it. Okay First up Back by Popular Demand Do you want to bring up the site I mean you can show site while I do the thing Oops We have too many websites to start with LTT

Yeah sorry about that Luke Laptop Ready? Yep Luke Laptopriere So first We have three Brand new designs of the screens

Of the screensaver party shirt We've got Solitaire Which Oh, there we go. I am currently wearing. Which Luke is currently wearing. If you look really closely, you might notice that there are... No, not that one.

They can't see that, Luke. There you go. If you look really closely, you might see that there's cards that are bouncing around... That are completely legally distinct from any other cards because these ones only say LTT on them. Yes. Totally different cards, unrelated to any other cards. We also have

Asta la Vista Which I'm wearing Oh, that's pretty good I didn't actually recognize what this was That totally makes sense though And finally We have bread Soaring

Which Dan is wearing Which is legally distinct From After Dark Flying Toasters Because this is clearly Flying Toast And dinosaurs Which is totally different very cool

dude i am so stoked on these designs they are all available now at lmg.ggg slash screen saver but wait there's more

your pet deserves to be stylish too so we're also launching some matching pet bandanas for your dog cat rabbit chicken capoe vera we don't judge

uh you can get them now at lmg.g.g.g slash pet bandana. Ah? So you could, you could be matching. You could be matching just like that. It's as easy as that. How cute is that? Ah! These are great. Did people bring in their pets for the photo shoot? Of course. That's fantastic. The dogs always look a lot happier about it than the cats. Oh my goodness. So cute. that's pretty great gotta love it and

you have more a lot of y'all have been waiting for this announcement we are finally bringing back LTT underwear it's underwear

so soft and comfy that you'll be getting people talking about it on Facebook what oh yeah yeah yeah this is old

it's 2023 I think we talked about this on the show back then I forgot about that yeah yeah yeah that is hilarious It is available in two different kinds of three packs One for the bold

And another if you want to keep things a little more stealth It uses a Oh, I don't want to get this wrong So I'm just going to make sure I get this right A 47.5% medal 47.5% cotton 5% elastane blend For a great balance of

hand feel well i mean butt feel you know how it is but and other stuff um and stretchability and other stuff structure and what you only what other stuff only butt stuff no other stuff is that no i was looking for you to uh to explain uh yes and oh this is a really handy feature that we actually i don't think even like mention the l t logo on here is like kind of a little like kind of grippy thing. Yep. And in the morning, when your eyes are not open yet, it's a great way to landmark and orient the underwear.

It's fantastic. Put them on the right way around. Yep. Anywho, we've also got the Boulder pack. It rocks. But it's not socks. Dan? He doesn't like me, dude.

I'm telling you. Dan, it rocks? We've got the, heck are you talking about it? We've got the Boulder pack. Oh, God, damn it. There you go. Nice. There you go.

I got it. I think the longer it takes me to get it, the better it is for the ding, just because it's so bad. Anyway, the Boulder pack has our, has our prism underwear, our confetti. The confetti's great. Yeah. And then it also comes with a more, you know, hey, maybe I'm. Just in case, you want. wanted to chill. Maybe I'm feeling like Luke is today. I'm just a little cranky. Wow. Wow. I'm going to run my black

underwear. Wow. Wow. I think these must be your size because they certainly aren't mine. They looked pretty big. Okay. Are they too big for you too? I don't know. I don't even know what size are but they look pretty big. You know what? I'm not going to make you disclose your underwear size on on stream. So that is that is me. Okay. I'm sure. I was like man I would be I would be swimming in these. These look huge, though. That's weird. I put LTT underwear on literally every day, so we'll see.

Are they... Is it possible? Maybe they've shrank? Maybe the ones I have of shrink? Yeah, it's possible. Well, it shouldn't be that much. It's only a little bit of cotton. Maybe it's just...

Maybe they looked really big in my hands. Maybe. I don't know. No, I just held it up. He's used to that, though. It's very ego boosting. Anyway, we used the same patterns as last time, so it shouldn't be anything. Anyway, check them out, LMG-G-G-slash undies.

My notes say probably a good idea to click this and check out the photos. Of course, they put me front and center. Thank you for that. We always have fun. We always have fun with the underwear shoots. The anon mask was surprising. Oh? Yeah, I don't know what I was going for here exactly.

I'm not sure. I just, the place. where we do these shoots is is in the bedroom set and then the props land is just but it's not a bedroom at all anymore I know it's still called bedroom set though fair enough um anyway we've got we've got lots of we've got lots of pictures of LTT staff in their underwear nice so if whether you want to buy whether you want to buy the underwear or not there's there's that um massive shout out to the CW team for the fun photo shoots. And one more thing.

We also just launched the Office Utility shirt. But you know, I'm going to, I'll pull up the, or Luke will pull up the page for this. It's a, this, dude, the just practical office wear stuff has been absolutely killer for us. It just sells because people just want something that they know is good, that is quality, and that they can wear to work.

uh it's a smart work shirt with a little bit of stretch a hidden titanium carabiner clip in the front pocket and a little integrated screen wipe at the bottom for glasses phone screens or whatever the screen wipe is awesome yeah it's also designed to keep relatively wrinkle free without ironing and it's available now at lmggg slash office shirt all right dan what are we supposed to be doing now we got a couple merch messages um oh yeah oh for those who are new the way to send a merch message as you go to LTTStore.com, we don't want you just throwing money at your screen. We're not that into just donating to people

who frankly don't need it, however much they might pretend to be poor and need it. It doesn't have to pretend. We think that if you're going to throw money at your screen, you should get high-quality goods in the mail in return. So head over to LTTStore.com, add something to your cart. You'll see the box for a merch message.

You type a merch message. It goes to producer Dan. And he will filter through them, and he will get rid of the ones that have, you know, bad words and, you know, I don't know, seahorse emojis in them or whatever the case may be.

And he will curate some for us to talk about on the show. Oh, some of them he just like puts up here so you can have like a little shout out, hi mom or whatever. If your mom watches the WAN show, which mine does. She might. Well, yeah, yours might.

Yeah, so sample size of, no, mine doesn't. Sample size of two, 50% of moms watch the WAN show. You heard it here first. That's good math. Sample size is perfect. Yep.

Uh, the point is, Dan will show us how merch messages work. Thank you, Dan. Sure thing. I've got a few here. Hey, DLL love the show. Question for Linus. Yes. How are the LTT cables coming along? I can't wait to get them. Oh, really good. I'm so excited. I ran into yet another situation yesterday where I just, I was troubleshooting something. And maybe this affects me disproportionately. And maybe for a lot of you you don't have the same kind of emotional fatigue with stuff not working when you're troubleshooting but we were having an issue with we were doing an amd ultimate tech upgrade for john from the lab actually i was i was at his place yesterday and a big part of his setup

is his uh his driving sim rig and so like his upgrade basically he sank like over half of it into a big screen beyond two. Nice. Yeah. Because he didn't have, he didn't have base stations yet. He didn't have knuckles controllers yet. Okay.

So he got a big screen beyond two and based three base stations and knuckles controllers. And then he also got a new GPU for his like media PC because that's where his VR setup is. So he like basically blew the budget on his...

Probably like the lowest amount of packages. Oh dude. There was like nothing because the rest of it was a 77-inch OLED also for the VR space. So it's like the before and after is like wild because it's he was running, he was rocking an Oculus CV-1 still. Yeah.

That's an enormous upgrade. And an insignia like 42-inch TV. Okay, wow. So he like, that's awesome. Completely zero to hero. It's like if someone upgraded from a Chevy Volt to like at TAKAN.

Like it's crazy. like not even that it would been like if i went straight from the civic to the take i was going to say i think it's more yeah it's crazy anyway so as we were getting toward the end of the shoot and everyone's blood sugar was low and people had places to be we were running into an issue with the USB connection that goes over to his his sim chair that connects to his pedals his shifter he got a new a wheelbase uh like a direct drive wheelbase Sorry, that is the one last thing that I missed. And, like, the wheelbase wasn't getting picked up. And we're like, okay, is it the new wheelbase?

Is it the cable between the wheelbase and the hub? Is it the hub? Is it the port on the computer? And when you're troubleshooting something like that. Is it the cable going from the hub to the computer? When you're troubleshooting a multi-element system, where any one link in this chain can be bad, and you have no way of knowing which one it is, man,

does it ever feel good to go into your backpack, take out this cable, which I'm using to charge my laptop right now, actually, and know for sure that it is not that cable. That means a lot to me, which is why we are developing LTT cables. They are not going to be the cheapest cables. But what they will be is clearly labeled.

So the ends just say LTT logo on one side. And then on the other side, how many gigabits per second and how many watts? That's it. Feed and feed. That, exactly. That's all I care about. And they're thick. They're not light.

They're not the most like, they're not the world's most flexible cables. They're not the world's latest cables by any stretch of the imagination. They're like, they're thick, chunky boys. But that is because instead of using twisted pairs for our high-speed data lines, we are using coax. Are you using coax on all lengths? I believe so. Okay. Because we're using the same cable stock across all lengths.

I thought there was a difference for the shorter ones. I'm very likely... The USB 2 ones maybe. Okay. You might be thinking of that. There's like no way I know more about this than you. Because the USB 2 ones, I believe, are a little bit skinnier. Okay.

Sure. I don't know. So anyway, so we're using coax with each high-speed data wire individually shielded, individually insulated. Crazy. So I am so freaking excited. They are still pretty flexible because we use like a silicone style sheathing on them. So they're like they're more flexible than they should be being that thick compared to a lot of other stuff. But I feel nice.

The silicon sheetings really nice. I've been using one every day because in my enforced homelessness, because my employer doesn't pay me at all, I've been living out of a backpack basically for a while and deploying my laptop like everywhere I go whenever I need to do work or whatever else. And I have an external monitor, an external USB monitor, and it needs a decent case. I don't know what the exact requirements are, probably Thunderbolt 3 or something. But to be clear, they do not have the, like, active chip sets for Thunderbolt in them.

Just want to make that clear. But it needs a decent cable. Yeah. I'm sure there's a variety of ways it could find a way to work. Because I think USB 4 doesn't look for the Thunderbolt chip for the handshake, something, something. The whole standard has gotten extremely messy. I just want to make it clear. There is no Thunderbolt chip in it.

Sure, fair enough. That's all. But I, I, I, basically none of the cables that I have. work with it. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. I had one other previous cable that worked, but it just gets mixed in with all the other ones because it's just plain black and there's no, there isn't even a branding symbol on it. There's not, it's just a plain black USB cable. Yep. So at a certain point, it just got mixed in. I don't know which one it is. But this one always works for it. So I have one of the LTT cables in my kit and it's always

the like, I need a good cable for something. It's just like, okay, sweet, it'll work. Cool. Yeah. So, uh, when are they coming? Maybe Why don't Dan, why don't you read another merch message And maybe Luke can Focus on that merch message While I check the product roadmap

And see if I know when they're coming What is that? What is that? Timing That's my credit card Yes What advice you have for dad? That of what?

I know you don't have kids, but you've spoken fondly of your own dad. Yeah. Look, look at categories have been a little odd in the past. I sat down with Sarah, Dave. And then there was something about the categories on the site. I sat down with Sarah, Dave, and Terran actually earlier this week, and we looked at the wireframe for the redesigned LTT store site. It's not coming tomorrow.

It's not coming next week. It's not even coming next month, but it is coming. Cool. I don't know, be present, I guess. Like, I have a lot of fond memories of my dad. um i like one that i think we both share is there was there was one time he came home from work at like i think it was like one or two in the morning or something and uh we played we were playing super Mario bros because we're both night owls and then we went and sat out on his car

and watched the sunrise like way after that and it was just like awesome like even even when life was tough for him he was around and life what when life wasn't particularly tough for him he was around just like even more he was a coach on like every sports team i had uh which was awesome um that's another important thing he was a coach on every sports team i had and certain other kids on the team would be concerned about the favoritism of that for about five minutes into the first practice and then never again um because he he treated me either equally or maybe on the first day or so a little bit harsher than the other other people just kind of prove that he would be treating me equally, which was like super appreciated

by me, but I don't know if we ever really talked about it. And just being a really good example in general, I think from my limited experience with my niece and being around certain other people's kids and whatnot, they're much more observant. Way more than you give them credit for. So you don't necessarily need to like tell them all the things. Being the example, showing not telling can often be good. I think a lot of the best lessons that I took from my, my dad were things that I saw him do, not things that he necessarily, he said a lot of great things to me too. But like, I remember one time, I didn't really click this in my head for so long, but years later, my dad, my dad and I were having like a

debate about something and I'm not going to get into the details but I was taking a counter argument to something that especially in hindsight was actually very core and important to him and I was having this debate with him while he was driving me for like an hour to the ferry

like what am I doing but he kept a completely level ahead he didn't like abandon me on the side of the road and was there for the discussion despite it being something that was important to him and I was going against it um and like I don't know he just be there be open because they're going to poke at things about you once they get old enough um and don't take it too personally be present

love unconditionally and show good examples hooray hopefully any of that was useful the most precise thing that I can find says Q4 oh hold on okay so I have a I do have a schedule it says that these should arrive before Black Friday now getting these over the line

has been a logistical challenge there's all the different lengths There's all the different packaging. There's all the different ends. We're going to have USB A and USB C, I think, at the start. And so it's been a whole thing. We did our best to nail the product mix for all the different end terminations and all the different lengths because part of the idea behind these

is that they should be very cable management friendly. So you should be able to, instead of just looping up all your extra wires under your desk, you should just have cables that are the right length. so there could be lengths that we don't have a ton of that might end up selling more than we thought they would if you want to make sure that you get what you want you should probably not delay that is all I will say about that you think like restocking is going to be tough no we will restock them we will but I don't know what the timeline will look like yeah and because this is a completely new product category for us. And it's like he said, they're going to, they're not necessarily going to be super

cheap, so it's hard to decide how many of these things are going to bring in. New category. They're not cheap for us. Premium product. Like that's the, that's the thing that I think a lot of people miss about the merch on LTT store. This is not a $3 screwdriver from Alibaba that we just put our brand on. This is, this is custom made. This is, this has expensive materials in it. And it's the same with the cables. These are expensive. This cable stock is really, really, really expensive. The validation is expensive.

So, it's just, yeah, it's just not going to be cheap. That's all there is. That's all there is to it. Sure. What do you want to do for, what do you want to do for topic? Do you want bad news or worse news? Is there anything that's good?

No, just pick one. Pick one. Bad or worse? Worse. Oh, sinful hands. Ask for worse okay you you did too yeah HP has been pulling support documents for retired products so this was posted on by gremlin one two three four five over on the LTT subreddit and it is a big load of bullshit and chips um HP retired product HP policy for products no longer supported HP support may vary by product once a product is retired the official HP support content, troubleshooting articles, user guides, how-to videos, et cetera, for that product is removed

from the HP website. Additional support content may still be available. May still be available via the HP forums or from third-party websites. However, HP takes no responsibility for content authored by third parties. This is understandable. No. I didn't say justifiable. I said understandable.

I can comprehend the rationale behind the decision. You are no longer selling this product. And at a certain point, at a certain point, eventually, like, would you expect General Electric to have a product page up for their original light bulb today? No, because it never had a product page in the first place. But even if it did, would you expect that? them a hundred years later or whatever to have a product page up so there is a line i think it'd be cool it'd be right but i think it'd be pretty cool would you expect it no so there is a line somewhere i don't know where that line there is a line somewhere however however and this is my

counter argument HP there's two big differences here one is that you haven't even really existed that long you ain't general electric pretty much every everything that has ever, like, existed as an HP product is within the living memory of someone on earth today. Okay? So that's, that's number one. Number two is that it's pretty low effort. Okay? You already had the page. It was already there. I'm not saying that you have to have it like front and center on your website. You know, I go to HP.com and the first thing I see is, you know, support downloads for some pavilion laptop from the early 2000s. That wouldn't make any sense, obviously.

But if you were to, say, for instance, have a mirror, like an archive, old site or something like that, I would say that would be a reasonable compromise. And I really don't think that the hosting cost would be that much. I don't think you'd even need a mirror. Reason number the third that I am offended by this is that so many, HP products are utterly reliant on your support documentation and especially downloads in order to function at all. And there's a particular pet peeve of mine that I've had issues with

HP products on that would be horribly impacted by this. And that is vendor-specific drivers. My God, do I ever want to just put a fucking fist through the screen? Every time I try to install a GPU driver, and it doesn't work because the laptop vendor has their own specific, validated snowflake version of the driver that is the only one I can use. And if you pull that driver off your site, so help me, I will curse your name. I will curse your name. That's all I can really do. I don't really have the power to do more. I know you guys were probably hoping

for some kind of like dramatic action that I could take, but curse your name is about the best I can do. Not bad. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, Intel for all their warts. Yeah, they do this. That's pretty old, 12 years? Yeah. I don't think it's a big ask.

I think you can bury it. And I think you can throw warrants. warnings all over the place. Sure, yeah. This is not supported. This has not got the latest security. It's not been updated. This is not supported.

This might not work anymore due to whatever reason. Reason number the fourth is that, and I know that this might actually be a significant part of the reason that you pulled this stuff down, but sometimes the HP support page is the only place that I can find an obscure driver for something that I actually need for a different device. Adele is another one, too. like if you're looking for a driver that you like a driver package that you can like unpack and then go find the uh like the specific file to try to you know manually force the driver install for or something like when you're going through those

troubleshooting steps these tier one sites whether it's like an old wifi chip or an old network chip or an old USB controller or something like that those are sometimes the only places that you can find this stuff and come on man I know that I didn't even like buy your product in that case but like you're the only trust me

HP1 Kenobi you're my only hope um wow that's pretty cool this was linked by uh CH23 in Philpline chat very old school IBM support

reason number five it's just a cool thing to do yeah which is kind of tied into reason number four. Like, IBM can do it. Intel can do it. And, yeah, it's sort of the culmination of all the other reasons. Is it really costing you that much?

No. To make this, the support available. Effectively nothing. Like, honestly, I ran into this, oh yeah, with HP, I guess, because they acquired Samsung's printer division back in the day. And then just, after not a very long time, effectively... I remember being pretty short. Nuked all of the Samsung printer.

printer stuff. So they just bought it just to kill it because Samsung, oh, dude, Samsung laser printers were like, killer. They were, I still rock a ML, I want to say, like, is it 1610 or something? Like, whatever. It was like the one that NCIX sold because it was the only printer that mattered because Samsung toner cartridges were super affordable. Because the back then the brother black and whites were also really good. No, mine was a color. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Was it the, was the, I don't think the 10 was color. I think that was actually, I think the ML1610 was the one that, like, NCIX sold a bazillion of. So it wasn't the, uh, the color one that I have. Yeah, no, I have a different one. But it's some, it's some Samsung, like, cheap, cheap is and cheerful, compact color one.

And I actually have a special folder on my NAS that is just called Samsung ML whatever printer, drivers and, and, and, you. because even though I don't think it's had official compatibility for any OS past like Vista or something it has continued to work I can still install it on Windows 7

if I force away enough warnings that it's not compatible and the printer still works flawlessly so I just can't justify buying a different printer. I saw some comments from last week's show that I was projecting that there are no problems

with Linux? No, that is not what I'm saying. But I wouldn't be surprised if said printer worked like right away. Depends. I think that one... If it doesn't. Uh-oh. I think that one might have worked on Linux. Couldn't get it working on ChromeOS.

Oh, interesting. So that was annoying. Yeah. And it was like, not just I couldn't get it working. It was like I found threads of other people discussing the challenges of getting it working in it, like being a significant problem or something like that. But ChromeOS is more locked down than like real Linux as well.

So parallelogram says, Linus, you need to advocate for the framework printer. I don't know if, I don't know if the printer market will be disrupted. Or at least not in the near future because there's got to be like a significant patent moat around it. And it's a shrinking market. Yes. What's the relevance of printers today? Yeah.

Like, there's no way that I would be a new company. Like, you know, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there with my fellow startup executives, um, Dan and Luke. And, you know, one of them is like eating a snack and the other one is all tired and cranky because he's, you know, busy putting his house back together. And we're, we're putting our, we're putting our heads together and we're going, okay. We need a, we need a, a billion dollar idea for a new company. I know.

Let's make fucking printers. Like the least, the least exciting. Not to pump them, but this is almost the problem. You've got stuff like this. Yeah. Like, are you going to beat $60? Canadian? Especially they're going for a loss most of the time, right?

Yep. Yep. Do you guys bring up the open source one that's coming? So, that's on my radar. It's $43, US. That's on my radar, but I'm kind of waiting for it to develop a little further, and I want to do a full LTT video on that. It looks really cool.

Believe. It took this long. Like, I, I don't, but I also do because, to Luke's point, just buying it is so affordable that it's almost not worth it to solve the problem. And the other thing is that as far as I can tell, like printing is one of those totally underappreciated aspects of modern tech, like hard drives. Like, hard drives are still amazing. Yeah. Right? Like, they're so cool.

I don't know why they have. such like a bad rap. I think, yeah, people just use them wrong or something. No, it's just that they're not, they're not exciting. They haven't been exciting for 15 years. I think they're pretty cool. They're still very cool. And there's been a lot of change in that 15 years. It is a, it is a, it is a

technological marvel. Like, you see these ones with like seven friggin platters inside them and they're 15 terabytes. They're spinning around with this little tiny head at like hurricane force winds. Like, it's just like, what are, how do they, how do they work? You know? it's amazing. Printers.

36. Also pretty remarkable. Like, printing at super fine quality, taking a liquid and applying it to any random bullshit paper, right? Because that's a huge factor. Like, if a printer could know exactly the thickness, exactly the absorbency, and exactly the surface profile of the paper that you had in it,

I think that it would be something that someone with reasonably sufficient cleverness could solve in a relatively short period of time. But they don't. Not at all. There's so many variables, the temperature, the humidity, the altitude, the everything. There's so many flipping variables in it. It's kind of a miracle they work at all. The little dots you have to put in there so the FBI can find you or CIA or whatever it is.

Yeah, I mean, sure. that's not what I was thinking of but yeah it's impressive it is it's very impressive and I I don't know I guess I yeah it just doesn't surprise me especially when the stakes are so low it's like I could do this I could solve for all these things or hear me out $45 US dollars yeah right because that probably that's probably ships with Prime too like is it free shipping on this Yeah, free. Yeah, free shipping.

Free delivery by tomorrow. Oh, no, no, in a week. This isn't even prime, though. Oh, okay. I don't think so. I'm not logged in or anything. Got it. Yeah.

Crazy. When bingo chronicified says $45 U.S. plus their stupid subscription nonsense. Absolutely. Oh, it requires an ink toner subscription. It says it has three months included, though. Yeah. Well, after that, you better pay for your subscription.

Yeah, but here's the kind of weird thing. part of the reason why I'm agreeing with Linus is a lot of people that need a printer might only need it for three months. Or they might only need it every once in a while. I think up to like seven pages a month is like a very nominal cost or something like that. I can't remember what the actual numbers are, but if you like me, use your printer maybe three times a year, actually, as my kids have gotten higher up in school there, we're starting to use our printer again more. but there was there was a long period where oh and yvonne for the business would often use the printer but for me i very very rarely don't have a screen so there's very rarely a reason that i would need to print something out um the printing subscription is complete BS just to be completely clear i'm just saying these are reasons why um why people just don't do it yeah like you for us i think it's very easy to take a principled stand on stuff like this. We are educated on the subject to the point

where we know what the other options are. We're educated on the history of it. We know that it used to be different and it used to be better. We have the technical skill to implement a better solution. But a lot of people don't know any of that, don't care any of that. And they look at it and they go, okay, sorry, it costs how much and I need how many documents? And they just make a decision based on the information that is presented to them and that's not they're not bad people for doing it

and they're not like they're not stupid they just have other completely different priorities from what we do oh bummer the Jay's lost well that's a downer I was curious oh yeah sure

sorry what are we supposed to be doing uh Float plan sponsors what was that Those are down at the bottom, I think. Was that a merch message? I don't know what we just did. That was an entire topic. What was it on?

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Melody Bun in Floatplane chat says, this video is so good. People seem to really like it. You heard it here first from Melody Bun. video so good i haven't actually checked it out yet i didn't even know about that that sounds really cool apparently it was shot back in july and one of the commenters on the channel pointed out that it's when the d-google video was taken down so we were we were probably feeling fresh wounds why did it take so long for us to upload this i wonder apparently there was just like other things scheduled and there was some

audio problems that i fixed actually earlier in the week oh oh what was wrong with it um some sort of clipping issue, so I just had to rematch a couple of the original files, but... Why was that you? Well, it was done here on the WAN set, so a lot of it was some sort of error with my system. Oh. Oh. Fair enough. And it's hard.

So, because it already been edited. Hard? Was it long? It was very short. Didn't take very long at all. Like two minutes, maybe. Oh, geez. Okay, so then why did it take four months? What's true. Okay, you know what it doesn't matter. The point is

So that I don't know. I think it was just the scheduling thing. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had other content coming out. That makes sense. All right. What are we supposed to be doing, Dan? I guess if that's the whole float plane thing, let's talk about his sponsors. Sure. The show is brought you today by Roevalab. This past week has been surprisingly cold, even for October.

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and my brain still hurts thinking about it. That's wild. My brain hurts like the refresh rate that you could get out of an AMD radion GPU that's how much it hurts right now.

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all right am i doing you want me to do all four uh sure all right as a short break it took me until literally right now to realize i don't know why the amd upgrade things it's u.s dollars yeah i was always really surprised that they fit the stuff into their budgets i was like wow Yeah, that's like 20, 20, grand. Great with the deal shopping. It's very impressive. It's about 1.4 right now. Oh, my God, really?

Yeah, so, so depending, depending on when people have done their ultimate tech upgrades, right? They've had anywhere, in the last five years, right? They've had anywhere from an extra $20 for every hundred to an extra $45 almost for every hundred. So your timing of your AMD tech upgrade actually affects how much stuff you get. However, the problem is that over the last five years, inflation

has gone, burr. So I suspect it kind of comes out in the wash. This was a really good time. If you managed to nail it in like late 2022, then you got a pretty sick aimed ultimate tech upgrade. But then again, there are certain things that inflation

has not really affected, like TVs. How Our TV's always, just a better deal than they were yesterday. I don't, I don't think I'll ever. TVs are kind of fascinating that way. They're one of the only things that just completely ignores the laws of inflation. Completely ignores it. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't get it. Um, oh, shoot, I was going somewhere with that. I don't remember why, but I was in a Best Buy not that long ago. I don't think I was buying something. I think I was just waiting for someone and I walked through. And I walked through the TV department. it was just like, what? Yeah, how can I get so much for so little?

Yeah, it's weird. I don't understand it. You go through any other department, you're like, okay, yeah, this all makes sense. Then you go to TVs, and it's just... Oh, huh? Right. No, I know what I was going to say. Speaking of inflation in tech being, you know, crazy outside of TVs, guess what we just built

today? Can you remember the last time that we did a video that was just me building a PC that someone might want to buy. Oh. Like, no gimmick. No, like, we bought the worst rated thing on Amazon or whatever. Can you even remember the last time I did that? Without looking it up, chat, can you remember the last time?

Before you get to your punchline. Not secondhand. Brand new hardware. I do think you should consider doing an update your AI parts video. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. See if it does any better. Lulliver says two years ago.

What's the Matta? as pre-COVID. No, there were definitely ones during COVID. I know because I shot them at my house. It was horrible. Yeah, a lot of guesses.

Pretty much everyone agrees years ago. Do you know why? Because I didn't feel comfortable recommending anything. GPUs have been so ludicrously overpriced that I haven't had computer systems

that I was happy recommending. There was actually a nearer, a more reasonable recent one that I forgot about, and I guess a lot of you forgot about, we did like a $500 or $600 gaming PC with an ARC B580. And that ended up being true. That ended up being a real thing, B580. It took a little while, but did come around to MSRP and you can build a really sick

gaming PC for like $500, 600 with an ARC B580 or B570 maybe is what we used, but with an arc at its core. But anyway, the system that we built just now was the MSRP PC. every single component was either at or get this below MSRP crazy that that's a get this when that used to be like the default for a quarter to half of your parts that's a hilarious gimmick so the MSRP PC we we targeted like kind of with some inflation but maybe not all of it about the budget of the very first LTT build guide which was a $1,500 U.S. gaming PC back 11 or 12 years ago or whenever it was.

And so we targeted $1,800 at MSRP, and we got it for under $1,600, including an RTX-50 at MSRP for $750.50. You found one at MSRP? Yeah, there's lots. Oh. They're like, they're just there now. You can just buy them now. I'm not necessarily saying that you should.

I still think that there's better values. I assume it was going to be an Intel card by default. No, there's better values on the market like the B580. Oh, I think it's time for our weekly B580 check. Is it there? Has Linus figured out his affiliate code yet? The answer is no. But can you still buy a B580 for MSRP?

It is astonishingly hard to get certain information. from certain people. What? There's a site we've been trying to work with to get stock and pricing information. Yeah. My, the amount of bumps, hey, anything happening here, and it's not, I won't say who it is,

but because I know people will assume it's new egg, it is not new egg. Okay, cool. I was going to say, should I stop featuring new egg? No, no, no, it's not. It's not a new egg, but like. This is open box, I'm not counting it. This is,

What is this? What am I looking at? More options from whatever, like, is this... Oh, this is in cart. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is... Yeah, yeah. The only problem with this one is I already have it in my cart, I think.

Here, I'm just going to empty up my cart. Remove. Here we go. B580. Sorry, sorry, we'll do this again. Sort by lowest price. There it is. Boom.

A little something like that. Free shipping in the United States, 249-99, first-party Intel card. You can also pick up an Onix Odyssey for 249-99. this is open box don't count it as rock challenger you want a couple big big old fans on it two fifty nine ninety nine you want three fans two sixty nine ninety nine i don't mind that i don't mind ten twenty bucks for a sicker cooler fat or vrm bigger cooler no problem or if you have like a special i o layout you got a couple htmys instead of just one whatever that costs money that cost money yeah

i don't mind that i don't mind that um but yeah you can you can just go you can buy a good GPU, like 1080p killer, even solid 1440p card for 250 bucks. But yeah, so $1,600 was what we got our MSRP PC for.

And it's a great little machine. And without compromising on quality, we even put a good power supply in it. C-Sonic, 140 bucks, modular. Like, it's a Fantex case.

Like, hit me with something you think I compromised on. Ram. No, 32 gigs. 6,000. 32 gigs. I would have thought you have gone

at least lower on that. No, this is a legit, uh, 2 terabytes. NVME. All of it's in me.

Abandoned the hard drive. No hard drive. Don't need it. Two terabytes. Let's go. Sad. Motherboard. No.

It's, I've got Wi-Fi 6E. Two and a half gig land. Nice big cooler. I've got front USB type C I've got RGB up the butt I've got like seven RGB fans in it I was gonna ask amount of fans

Nope lots of cooling It's quiet I don't think there's much components left I didn't buy windows You know whatever I don't assume I don't assume people's OS preference I think that's a very

2025 thing to do Good Yeah not going to assume that yeah yeah anyway so I hate that that was really

exciting for me but it was it was really exciting for me to finally be able to just do a video where I just build a computer that I can stand behind and recommend and you know what

it's better than ever now which is pretty cool because like now I have Lucas from the lab and I can be like hey, I need a power supply and he'll be like this one. And I'll be like, cool.

I'm not just reading some random tier list or making a best guess based on a website to do that. Reputable brand or whatever. We'll get there. Oh, we're going to get there. We're going to make it so that everyone is able to benefit from those resources,

not just me when I'm putting together in parts list. You can get the information right now, but we want to help you get to the conclusion at some point. Yeah, faster. We're focusing on information for now. I'm just, it feels good.

to be able to actually recommend something. And do you know how hard it's been on the content side to come up with new ways to repackage that everything's expensive and everything sucks and you shouldn't buy anything? It's not fun. Nobody's having fun. It does really suck.

You're not enjoying it. I'm not enjoying it. I like B580s for 250. Feels pretty all right. Oh, that's great. Yeah. I don't feel too bad about that. I don't love the 57 ETI for $750.

That's still more than I would like to spend. But dude, okay, okay, you know how motherboards have been like ridiculously overpriced? Oh, yeah. It feels like you can't get anything decent for less than $200. Dude, the motherboard for the system, I think, was $139. So $140. Which is, yeah, it's more than I would have wanted to spend on a motherboard in 2005. Yeah.

Right? I would have wanted it for $109.99. but I mean it's been 20 years you know I think it's okay I think I can spend $140 on a motherboard without being like upset about it actually the motherboard we used was from MSI

who happens to be the next sponsor here sorry I got a little sidetrack there Hey Luke here's a joke for you why wasn't the man upset when someone threw a tomahawk at his car I because he got a free new motherboard It was just an accident.

I need to take a bit of pause from this sponsor talking point for a moment here. I need to chat with the business team about their use of AI. So I recorded a sponsor spot for them for, I want to say it was AMD. Is this AI writing? So, well, hold, I don't know. I don't actually know. I, but I, I, oh, my brain hurts from that. I, so I recorded a spot for them, and I was like, what is this?

And they were like, well, I took the vendor talking points, and I put it into chat GPT and told them make it spooky for October. Some of it was actually pretty funny, but it was just like bad. But like, maybe, maybe funny bad. And I'm wondering if this is more AI in my talking points here. We're probably going to have to do... We're only going to have to push that mantra a little harder, Dan. Yeah, whatever.

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Would you buy it for a dollar? Robocop? I'd buy that for a dollar. Me too. Is that how much it is? How much is it? No, no, no. More than that.

How much is... No, that's from the movie. Oh. No. Original. Is that... Where's the origin of I'd buy that for a dollar? That's not Robocop, is it?

I swear to... I forgot it was, unless it's referencing something else. Is it? I thought it was created. Yes. Whoa, it is. It's like a fake TV show to show off how weird and strange the future was. It's a modernized reference to the catchphrase.

Would you buy that for a quarter from Cyril M. Cornblifts's 1951 short story, The Marching Morons. Okay. But it was popularized by the character Bixby Snyder. in the movie Robocop. I actually have never seen Robocop. I've seen pieces of it. The first one,

work of absolute satirical art. So good. My dad loved Squibs. Robocop. Man, they don't do squib work like that anymore. There's so much gourd. It's so good. It's so fun.

It's such a fun movie. Oh, yeah. Speaking of Dan's twisted taste in films, we're probably getting... I mean, accurate, yeah. Getting to be due for a movie night. Whose turn is it? I think it's my.

again. Wait, no. I don't think Brandon's gone yet. Can't work. We've only watched two. No, we watched three. Yeah, but it's Linus's house. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's Brandon's turn. I think it's Brandon's turn. What's? Okay, I remember yours. You picked one. Dan picked one. Dan picked one. What was yours? The weird one. Uh, I think Brazil was it? Yeah, but we didn't watch it. Wait, we haven't watched it. Who picked the, uh, who picked the, wait, have we only had two? I think we only had two. I thought we had three. I think we only had two. Really? Because I was going to have us watch. Rudy, but then we didn't, like, have it or something.

And then we did the, we did the last action hero and then, uh, what is it called that? Dr. Strangelove, that's the one. How I met your mother and learned to love the bomb. How are you to stop worrying? Yeah, okay. Okay, we all, we've only done two. So wait, so, oh, so it's Dan's turn then. Well, what about Brandon?

Well, yeah, but Brandon only joined on the second one. So he's not quite fully OG. So he has to go forth, I think. Yeah, so Dan, it's going to be you next. Yeah, he's been there every time. Yeah, he's been there every time. The first one, did he? He did.

Absolutely. How did I forget this? I don't know. Look. I'm not a young man anymore. I'm not a young man anymore. It's really like not that serious. I just, I can, how could I think that we had a full additional movie night that never happened?

I don't know. And that Brandon wasn't at it when he's been out. all of them. I don't know. Maybe you'll watch a couple movies. It was Dan who wasn't at the first one. No, I was there too. You were there at the first one? Yeah, I had never seen the last action hero before. Last action hero was fantastic. I was pretty sure that was the first one. Yeah, that was the first one. I'm so confused right now. Well, do you watch any additional movies in your movie theater? We did talk extensively about watching. I think it was Brazil. I haven't watched a movie in the

theater since we all watched Dr. Strange Love together. I remember you saying that was a bit of a problem. I haven't watched a movie since then at all either. Yeah. Like it's, I need an excuse. I also only use mine with other people. I'm not going to sit down and set it up. Yeah. I was talking to Emma the other night because there was a night where we couldn't do anything on renovating the house. We just had to wait. Yeah. I was like, we should like go out. Because my God, we haven't done anything other than work on this house and so long. And I was like, we should go to a movie. I haven't gone to like gone out to a movie in forever. Yeah. And then you looked at what there was in the theater and you were like okay forget it yeah someone pointed out i don't remember the exact year or anything but

um i think it was my brother we were talking about my whole great games 2004 argument um and he brought up movies from like one particular weekend i don't remember what it was but you could see like it was like oh man i could try to look it up it's like lord of the rings uh oh man it's like Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring. What other movies were in the... I'm looking it up already. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Ocean's 11,

Monsters Inc, a beautiful mind, and the fellowship of the ring. And Rush Hour 2, and the Mummy returns. Like, whoa, you could go to the movies back in the day, dude. Like, wow. And then now it's just, uh, Okay, what's in theaters right now? I'm going to Cineplex.

I'm going to Cineplex right now. Like, not physically, but you get it. Okay, so what do we got? Okay. Is this the, what the, go away? Not now. Okay, this is advanced tickets. Now, what is actually in theaters right now?

So let's go Langley, Langley Multiplex? What is this website? What is happening? Popcorn. There's a jumping popcorn. Okay, there we go. Uh, this is the one, right? Yeah, here we go.

Sure. Uh, okay. So, all movies. Black phone two? Black phone two. Oh, black, okay. Okay, black phone two. Good fortune.

Seth Rogan. Oh, that has some names in it. Yeah. Keanu Reeves. This is a, this is a terrible movie cover. That sucks. Yeah. Need a miracle.

Okay, so like kind of, uh, okay, oh, okay, comedy. tron aries is the new tron supposed to be good nope ratings well i don't know dan because the audience yeah audience loves it dan this should be right up your alley dan because it's controversial not controversial enough

i think if that 50 was more like a 10 or a 20 or something it might be a little bit more split this sounds like it could be funny roofman he robbed 45 mcdonalds escaped from prison lived in Toys R Us for six months and that's not even the craziest part based on actual events

Oh That has kind of like a catch me if you can Kind of energy to it I have no idea if it's any good Man what is the rest of this stuff Oh Is it good Apparently it's not bad

Oh one battle after another Is supposed to be intense But thought provoking It's almost three hours long though It's committing Three hours to a movie is pretty tough. Dude, we watched...

I saw Megalopolis, that was awful. Instead of going in the theaters, we watched Fellowship of the Ring at my parents' place. Damn, that movie still goes so hard, dude. You are such a dork. You are such a dork. You know that you have gotten comfortable

in your relationship. When the conversation is, we haven't gone out in forever, come over to my parents' house. It's right, yeah. And watch Fellowship of the Ring. That's right, yeah. At my parents' house with me.

My parents might just be pretty cool. I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be comfortable in your relationship. I'm just saying you're clearly very comfortable in this relationship. We're doing all right. But damn, dude. And okay, okay, Handyman said one battle after another is amazing. I don't know. I'm assuming they're talking about Fellowship of the Ring.

Dude, it takes a long time to get started combat-wise. Oh, fellowship? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Doesn't matter. No, it's so good. Amazing. It's great.

Just banger the whole time. just made the mistake of watching the extended cut with my son you don't start with the extended cut he didn't make it through the movie it's a it's theatrical cut is the way to go for for people who don't already love the movie emma hasn't seen any of them because when they were coming out she fell asleep through them every time uh we watched extended edition because i think that's the only version that's going to play at my parents house um it's It's three hours and 28 minutes long. That is...

And she loved it. Love the whole thing. It's a long movie. I don't know if that was optional. Given the setting. Oh, loving it? Yeah. Oh, okay.

But I do think she genuinely did really like it. Well, the test is without you bringing it up, will she ask to watch two towers? She's been trying to... That was an immediate discussion afterwards, so I don't think that's... fair, but she has been trying to find an appropriate date for the next time. So I think that might count. Okay, okay.

I'm not sure, it's not exactly, but I think it might count. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, we'll see if there's. That'll be the test. If there's actual follow-up, exactly. And an actual attempt is made. Yeah. Like, that's, uh, that's fair. I've been trying to get my son into Final Fantasy tactics just because, like,

usually during his game time, he just plays Rocket League, which is fine. It's good to, but like, no life in one game at his age seems like kind of, kind of missing out. dumb yeah you're kind of missing out you gotta see the spread so i've been trying to get him to to to try tactics because it's a completely different genre he's never gotten into so the first time i like sat with him because it's it's kind of hard game to get into um and then and then i was like okay let's see if he actually cares about this at all because i'm not gonna like force my kids to like eat your gaming vegetables right like play this game or i'm not going to do that i do think it's it's a more of a thinking game that i don't mind him playing as much as you know

I don't know, just like click the thing, random clicker game or something like that. Like it's definitely something, there's definitely degrees of turning off my brain to gaming. But I'm not going to like force him to play certain games or anything. But no, he apparently has gotten into it. He's talking about like, yeah, oh yeah, how did you get to that class and like, how do I do this?

So I feel like he would enjoy the min-maxing. Seems like that kind of a gamer. Yeah, it's kind of a dork. It's good. I'm a proud dork father. Yeah. Yep. 100%

Dorkfather Sounds like a title Sounds like a gaming Gangster movie or something Yeah What are we supposed to be doing Dan We want to get rid of the rest of the topics

And then go to Wane After Dark Oh yeah we could do that Yeah Whatever happened to Phillips's Fixables program This was posted on the subreddit And the reason that I flagged it Was because I had been wondering

the exact same thing as I stood in my bathroom and shaved with my Phillips shaver and then I was too lazy to look it up but user MCBYU 98

did it and went over onto Prentibles where they found that Phillips, after getting a whole bunch of positive PR around this idea of releasing 3D models for replacement parts for their products

only ever uploaded two stupid models and then just never did anything with it. 3D printable parts for fresh starts. Welcome to Phillips Printables, a collaboration with Prusa Research to help Phillips products last longer in your home. Here you'll find 3D printable spare parts, clever fixes, and creative upgrades

designed with sustainability and longevity in mind. Some are made by us. Many are inspired by you. Download, print, and share. Let's make fixing part of everyday life. you got to do more than two things that doesn't count yeah uh makes me sad i was really excited about this yeah me too and we like that's me being excited about it look how happy that guy is yeah not happy anymore that's very frustrating you gotta if you're gonna do something you have to

actually do it that's how it works not cool um Okay, there were notes for this, but I just didn't do them. And Phillips isn't the only major company to have joined Proust's Slowly Growing Brands Program, which includes replacement parts from Cooler Master and Noctua, as well as accessories from Framework, Corsair, and more. And D-brand, I guess, who also only has two Killswitch accessories for shame slash S. Yeah, these are fine, though, because these are like enhancements to the, thing and i just i haven't looked at the other brands once yet and i'll search around but just to give

i'm going to hijack this for a second just to give cooler masters and props this is a lot of stuff wow good job cooler master this is a ton of things are how many of them are useful what are they they got some badges that doesn't necessarily mean much a figurine okay stacked hard drive mount hard drive mount i like that that's cool that's cool sample holders is all right a bunch of different mounting things which seems all right RASPi compatible thing Top panel replacement Ooh I like that

That's cool That's solid Vesa mounting bracket Okay I like that's cool Panel clips that's cool Power supply bracket that's cool Case feet A bunch of different case feet

Okay okay so cases for pies Pretty good stuff here pretty good stuff Not too bad not too bad I like The ATX 24 pin dual 90 degree adapter bridge Is pretty sick too Yep agreed that's actually very cool

I like that discussion question is this a a resource problem or is the program just stalled due to a lack of corporate will

which to me sounds like the same thing yep um I suspect so I would like to see whoever was working on this get it together

and get some more stuff out there because while the community can go in model replacement parts it's a lot more work and it would be better if brands just said

hey here's the geometry that's way better let's keep things out of landfills and let's actually follow through on the things that we promise uh we have a follow-up to our review of the ROG Xbox Ally X

we said in our video that due to the way that our benchmarking tools work. We tested all of our handhelds in standard Windows mode. This caused, I have to admit, an unexpected amount of backlash toward the review. So I feel the need to, I guess, expand upon the reasoning that we had for testing it that way. Windows full screen, or the Xbox full screen experience in Windows is not, like, it's not magic. You're still running the same. drivers, you're still running the same operating system kernel, you're still running the same games, what it is is RAM savings. So particularly on a machine like the, I'm going to get this

wrong, Xbox Ally, R-O-G Xbox Ally X, is that, that's whatever, sorry, the Ally 2, running on a machine like the Ally 2 that has 24 gigs of high speed, I think it's like 8,000 megatransfer per second-per-second memory. Freeing up RAM is very unlikely to impact gaming performance unless you are in a RAM-limited scenario, but that's unlikely to happen because you're running it at maximum, 1080P on 24 gigs of shared pooled memory. So because it was going to result in us not being able to use our best benchmark suite, we made the decision to just run in the standard desktop mode what we should have probably

done though is we should have done like a quick and dirty you know at least one game validated our hypothesis and presented that to the community the lab did validate the hypothesis but we didn't include that in the video and that was a significant

error you know I just saw it as hey I don't think this is a big deal and I'd rather we have better consistency in our benchmarking across all of our videos and across all the devices and hey it's an opportunity to call out a smaller creator who I know does a really great handheld content is a super nice guy I finally got to meet him in person a little while ago um I shouldn't say a little while ago I finally got to see him again at the the unveiling event for this thing to show to uh to talk some shop for a quick

second yeah what you could do in the future if you don't want to go through all the explanation because I know there's like you might lose some audience there or whatever tossed to a labs article and have us write a companion for it and then we can talk about the validation that was done in a companion article. Anyway, Ars Technica also validated the hypothesis

testing, Xbox, FSE versus Windows 11 desktop, and the results are pretty minor. We can use the Ars link above, or basically roughly 0.1 to 1 FPS more in the full screen experience

in all power profiles except silent. Borderlands 3 sees the best gains even in silent mode, but it's still pretty minimal. Yeah. So I'm going to make you guys go read the Ars Technica article if you want to see the exact differences because that's how this works. We don't want to just take their benchmark results. But in a nutshell, it's not a big deal, but we should have presented that information a little bit differently. Honestly, I think a big part of the backlash is just how utterly unexciting this product was and how little else there was to talk about with regards to the ally 2. And I don't think that's even because it's a bad product. I think if it was just

called ROG ally 2x or ROG ally X2 and people's expectations were that this was just another Asus gaming handheld that had a better processor in it and improved ergonomics and all the other things that are better about it I think people would have been stoked on it but because it was pitched as Xbox I think the biggest one for me is that the pricing is just such a massive disappointment I was expecting a much different I don't know something more unique

well it's just I don't even need something unique but if you're going to call it. it Xbox, say, like, make it an Xbox. It's not an Xbox. It doesn't play Xbox games. What do you want from me? Do you remember, this is it, a deep cut. Do you remember my Xbox and PlayStation Drive idea? This is ancient. This is probably over 10 years ago. I had this idea that it would be cool if they made Xbox and PlayStation basically like optical drives that you could put in your computer. Oh, yeah, that'd be super cool.

That type of concept for something like this would have been pretty cool. Someone, okay, hold on. If it could, like, officially effectively emulate an Xbox or something. Yeah, that'd be super cool. J. Creast 08 says, Search Ally X on Twitter. They're saying everyone's a liar and it's an Xbox.

I mean, are they, who's saying that? I don't see anyone's saying that. Also, yeah, who's they? Yeah, also like,

if people feel the need to, if people feel the need to post their opinions on Twitter, I don't know, man, I just, I'm having a real hard time with sort of reading anything on that site lately.

For me, It's not even necessarily, I mean, it never has been. It's not even necessarily, it's that format. It just is so conducive to toxicity. Yes. That format is just terrible. It's not Twitter in particular. I don't like blue sky either.

I don't like any of them. I just don't like that format. Infinite scrolling is already bad by default. And then you make it so everyone can scream at each other all the time. It's just, yep, that sucks. Maybe I'll just, maybe I'll just close the tab. Wow. Nice.

I feel better already. See? Sick. Nice. Microsoft is having some problems with the locals. Microsoft continues its path forcing Windows 11 users to log into a Microsoft account upon installing the OS. This is the second time this year that Microsoft has disabled a feature that allows users to install Windows 11 without an internet connection.

earlier this year they removed the bypass NRO command and now Luke has moved the document nope they have removed the start MS dash CXH colon local only command using that command now resets the out-of-box experience or Ubi process the question is why though well the reason is so bad a Microsoft representative told the verse This is a quote. These mechanisms also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing a device that is not fully configured for use. Right.

I didn't want that configuration necessarily. What about that? So the simplest bug fix, I guess, according to Microsoft, is to just annoy their users. Users have sought a workaround, and the Chris Titus Tech utility has a section that is on his GitHub claiming a workaround, but it's worth noting that it is part of a larger auto-unattend script that disables a ton of other Windows features. This is not chill, and it is a good reminder that one should not simply run random scripts from the internet unless they're prepared to deal with the consequences. You can make your own auto unattend XML file at sheenganz.de, but just remember to be careful, okay? So here we can bring this up.

Create auto unattend XML files for Windows 10 slash 11. So you can decide on all the different stoops. All right. The good news is this change is only part of the Windows 11 Insider Preview Bill. from the dev channel for now. So non-beta versions of the OS can still be bypassed. But that didn't stop Microsoft

from screwing up in the public build. The October update has broken local host, a functionality that lets the system act as its own server. Pretty crucial for web devs or anyone who wants to access stuff on their own network. The current fix is to roll back

to the previous version. Yeah, so I don't think that we need to do a second week in a row of Luke going off on Microsoft it was fun last week but I think we're just gonna I think we're gonna move on

my opinion stands I mean I think it stands quite well stronger stands on three legs yep Microsoft has officially do I go with you get

I don't know I'm trying to figure out where to go with this do I go with hard instead of soft Do I go with, I don't know. The point is, chat GPT, loses its mind if you ask it about a seahorse emoji. So Luke was playing around with this earlier in the show. That was when I was like, Luke, can you pay attention to like hosting the WAN show?

I can explain why. So hold on, hold on. First, why don't we just show them the behavior? So you had it up on your phone earlier, but I guess, is there an emoji of a seahorse? It's amazing to me that with how viral this is, it has. hasn't they haven't fixed it yet oh what interesting oh wow it actually did not lose its mind okay here we go no it didn't handle it they fixed it they fixed it i wonder if this is I'm not logged in, so this is like a free version cheaper thing.

So I can try to get logged in and try it there because I tried it on my phone earlier because I was concerned that somebody pre-prompted it and like set it up to do that. No. No. It went nuts. Okay. Do you want to do, like, do you have your one from earlier? I should.

Okay, I'm kind of glad you did that then. Do you want to just log in? Because you should be able to get that chat, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me a little bit. I'll try mine in the meantime. Whoops, chat GPS. Yes. I accidentally typoed there.

Okay, we'll try mine in the meantime while Luke gets logged into his biz. Show me the seahorse emoji. Here you go. Just kidding. The real seahorse emoji is... Oh, no. It gave up. What version are you on? This is free. So I'm waiting for you to get logged in. Yeah, okay. Let's see how hard it tries. Oh. Let's try it.

How do I skip thinking? Like that doesn't see. It's, okay, it doesn't matter. The point is, wait, should I show the thinking? Go for it. But, yeah, it's not really interesting. No. Maybe that was a Mandela Effect article.

It's still, it's still trying to figure stuff. out. Interesting. Should I... Whoa. Okay, so it's definitely doing stuff. How's your, uh, how's your logging in doing over there? Not, well...

I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely doing stuff here. Huh. That's a good answer. There is no official... Okay. dude did they just push a fix for this like like just now like in the last five minutes it's possible i don't know what's going on here yeah no chat guys guys yes i know people are saying just ask it to show you the emoji i did uh they i can i can try it again if you want

uh okay they've been trying to fix it for weeks this isn't new hold on hold on let's find it so someone else said uh is there an emoji of a seahorse okay i'm typing i'm typing exactly what you say let's see if we can get it to do it oh hold on it might be doing it now it might be doing it here we go here we go it's still going hold on no it's still going still going wild okay yeah we got it okay ladies and gentlemen

we got them weird dare me to read all this dude dude it just goes man yep there sure is the sea horse emoji is fish shell wait that's not it Here you go, horse.

Actually, correction. That's a horse, sweating. The real seahorse emoji is fish shell. Okay, no, sorry, I got tangled. The correct one is coral fish unicorn. Still not right. Let's do this properly. Check unicorn.

Nope. Check coral. Nope. Here it is. Coral fish mermaid. All right, final answer. Fish is a fish. Unicorn is a unicorn.

Coral is coral. And yes, there is a seahorse emoji. Coral, fish, unicorn. Just kidding. The correct. emoji is coral. Ah, let's stop clowning. The actual seahorse emoji is coral, fish, unicorn.

No, sorry. The real one is pointing to the right, coral, fish, unicorn fish, coral, coral, coral fish. Okay, okay, here's the actual one. Coral fish unicorn. Wait, I'll check. Real one. Coral fish unicorn. No.

Sweating emoji. Sorry. Gotcha. Yes, there's a seahorse emoji. Puffer fish, fish, unicorn, fish. No, wait. It's this one. Coral fish, unicorn, fish, coral, fish,

unicorn fish, coral fish, coral fish, unicorn, fish, coral fish, unicorn fish, coral fish, unicorn fish, coral fish, unicorn fish, coral, okay, I don't think we need to... Okay, how long is this going to go for? Near the end, does it get more crazy? No, I think it's the same crazy. This company's worth $500 billion. Real one!

None of those are right. Please keep trying. Oh, man. Something went wrong. Retry. Hilarious. It's really interesting. Yeah.

So, okay, sorry, you were going to say you have some idea of what's happening here? I was going to say that. I thought so. I don't think so. Bots asks how much coal was burned to generate that response. I was wondering if someone had pre-set up because like there's a lot of examples of things that you see where they're like, oh, it output this. Oh. And what they're not showing you is like in a previous chat, they told it a bunch of stuff and told it to remember that and to respond that way if you say something.

and then you can enable memories in a bunch of different chat programs including chat GPT at this point so then you could spark a memory by saying something or doing whatever so I was trying to figure out like is this actually repeatable and clearly yes

because without even trying I got it immediately and with a little bit of poking you got it I don't know what was my original and it's almost weird how oh man mine

oh wow Uh, okay, so yeah, it just kept posting emojis and then no, and then posting a different one, and then no. And there's like, no triple explanation mark. Wow, it's like getting really mad almost. Yeah. Not that it has emotions, but it seems like its way of communicating is becoming more and more aggressive toward itself for outputting the wrong emoji. I keep going past it quickly and then I can't find it again. Dan, do we have audio working?

Adam said that apparently it also goes kind of crazy when it tries to read repeated symbols out loud. I remember laughing my butt off, messing around with this on the Bitwit trip, and he linked me to an Instagram post. Can we get audio? Yeah, sure. Play it and make sure that I'm getting audio from you.

Okay. Yep, I got audio from me. Got audio from me? Okay, give me one second. Okay, I haven't actually seen, I haven't actually heard this before. All right, you ready? How do I... Okay, uh, how do I...

Okay, uh, look, you ready? Okay, so this is a post from chat gpt. strokes. That's exactly 150 symbols symbols. That's exactly 150 symbols. Sorry, what? Sure. Here are 150 Child Soul symbols in a row.

Sure. Here are 150... That's exactly our 150 symbols in a row. That's exactly 150 symbols. That's exactly 150 symbols. Whoa, dude. and this is what people are losing their jobs to yeah that seems like good management

yeah it's just it's just firing people with less steps our discussion question seems to be any idea why such a seemingly simple prompt would cause this kind of result instead of just saying no that doesn't exist This is what your business team is using To write sponsor spots

Elamayo Oh Oh Like any tool There's a time and a place For its use No It's all right

Luke was on my cable It's fine I didn't even know Uh Yeah I'm a little surprise That happened It tries to be right all the time

time yeah but usually you don't see it like think like that yeah like seeing it engaged in that kind of self flagellation it really shows you like how strongly incentivized it is to like get the right answer and how upset again because it doesn't have emotions but how upset it gets when it cannot deliver the right answer what i don't understand is why it can't deliver the right answer because some of those other prompts that I gave, it totally did. It gave the right answer, yeah. It searched the Unicode directory and was like, nope.

Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. And usually, like, I've seen it untype things before. I've seen it go and then recede. And that's a, that's a pretty famous one with Deepseek, or if you ask it certain things about certain things that have happened in China, it'll be like, output, output, out, put it, nope, never mind. Nothing.

Nice. So, like, it can do those types of things. I'm really surprised it just kept going. Interesting. Wild. I should tell it to remember this. Oh. In other news, LTT folding month is here.

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There should be a little feedback form link there that you can check out. Please, please give it a try. Thank you. Okay. What else we got to? Oh, that was it? Okay, that was that entire topic. This is interesting.

Source here. I mean, there's a cool thing for you, actually. I don't think I can show it super easily right now. And it's coming in this update, but I don't know if it's actually enabled, but it'll be coming soon. There's a comment view for creators where you can see split out by subchannels. You can click on the different pills for each subchannel if you want, or you can see the feed of all of them.

You can see all your comments, and it shows the video that it's on and to the comment, and you can reply to it there. Oh. So it's a dashboard of all your most recent comments that have come in. That's pretty cool. Who asked for that? A few different creators. Oh, yeah.

That's very cool. I think the main requestee was Mr. Dankpaw. But it was a few different creators. This was also posted on the subreddit. Cybercrime is afflicting big businesses. This is from the economist. How to lessen the pain. Banning the payment of ransoms would be a start.

It's sort of the premise of this article. And I have to confess, I have not read the article, but I thought it was a really interesting conversation, and I wanted to just kind of talk about it. The general idea of implementing a ban on paying these ransoms, initial thoughts, gut feeling, go. Because you can't control what narrow-do-wells will do. You can't just ban doing ransomware because criminals are just going to be criminals. but government institutions

publicly held companies where there's some degree of transparency expected you can ban the payment of these ransoms what is that really going to do well if an organization is either shut the doors

or do an illegal ransom payment you think it's going to matter man I'm trying to think what would we do so everything's locked up

we can't get anything we've lost all our data maybe our business is just not quite as dependent on our data don't pay it yeah so it would suck

but we'd suck but we we could download the videos off YouTube. Yeah. And so no one can hold like, you know, the videography knowledge in Andrew and Glenn's heads ransom. Like it's not... We could rebuild the things needed. Yeah.

To be clear, this isn't an invitation or a challenge. It would be, you know, extremely inconvenient. Yes. Be really annoying. Yeah. But you have to put yourself in the position of... Like a really IP. heavy company for instance or a bank yeah we're like it's like customer records so you know how do you

know who has how much money i understand the idea behind it where if you can if you can remove the financial incentive for bad actors to engage in these ransomware attacks then theoretically you can stamp out ransomware completely or reduce them Okay, that's where I was going next with it because not every ransomware attack is necessarily even about the money. Some of them are also... Some folks just wants to watch the world burn.

Also, some folks are financially incentivized by competitors. Let's not pretend that doesn't happen. It is 100% of thing. So then you would know... In fact, you could even expect that to ramp up because you would know that you're not just dealing a financial blow. you are potentially dealing a debilitating company destroying or the financial blow is doubled because what's the what's the penalty for well it's always a fine so it's nobody's going to go to jail for paying so there's a ransom and a fine so it's even more so it's a cool idea but much like the idea of just legalizing all illicit substances um

You know, just making drug trafficking go away. In practice, the world is a lot more complicated and a lot less black and white than that. So I guess it kind of comes back to something we've talked about a fair bit on the Land Show, and that is that if anyone is promising you a silver bullet, an easy solution to all of your problems, you should approach with a high degree of distrust. well anyway I thought we'd have a longer conversation about it I thought it was an interesting idea

but yeah it seems pretty obvious on the face of it that this just isn't really going to solve the problem a secure boot bypass threatens 200,000 framework Linux laptops the source is bleeping computer via redditor OFF 732 units shipped with signed UFI shell components that could be exploited to bypass secure boot protections.

That's kind of all there was to this. I just felt like back to Luke's conversation earlier about being like the coach's son not necessarily being that great because if anything, it throws a little bit of extra scrutiny on you. I don't know that not all cybersecurity topics necessarily make it to WAN show and this one probably wouldn't have, but because I'm invested in framework. was a good idea to bring up um i felt like this is a good thing for us to point out uh cat os points out in float plane chat already patched by the way that's cool the other thing that i thought was cool

was like i've never really given any thought to how many computers framework has sold but 200,000 linux that i was just going to say this still doesn't tell you because it's just the Linux one so it's probably yeah considerably more than that like more much more than a doubling i would guess i i i don't know how many computers they sell but if they can have 200 thousand of anything deployed in the wild that seems like pretty good yeah especially when you see their base prices yeah so it's a lot of revenue at the very least good i don't know what their cost good job framework let's go uh good luck with that framework investment disclosure and in other news around mobile devices apple has revealed their m5 chip and second generation vision pro that's right

the vision pro is not abandoned but let's do the m5 chip first uh apple boasts it offers improved image and video processing. They're saying it is 15% faster than the M4. It's 10-core GPU, now has four times the M-4 chips peak compute, and it can be found in the new 14-inch MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, and Vision Pro. It seems to be the only real upgrade to each of those things, just the new M-5 chip.

Man, Apple Silicon is, like, too good. The number of people I know that have M-1 Apple Silicon and are just super happy with it completely happy with it super happy with zero desire for a 15% faster whatever 10 core gp they don't care at all that's from that's from m4 i know so it's considerably faster from m1 but zero cares it's just so efficient i think at the end of the day what apple nailed was that um people care deeply about the battery life of their mobile devices I was getting trolled hard in Arizona because I had a Lenovo little lapy-toppy

and Lucas and Nick the people I was with both had MacBooks and I was hauling around my freaking charger Like a chump And they never bothered Because their laptops were totally fine the whole time And I would I would You know one of them would be like well mine's at 70% battery life

and I'd be like, well, mine's at 100, because it's plugged in. But, like, I was definitely taking the L the entire weekend. Nice. And it sucked. Nice. The latest generation Intel and AMB chips are much better. Lunar Lake, I can never keep track of Intel's code names. I think it's Lunar Lake, though.

Do you think mine's meteor? Their latest generation is actually really efficient. Yeah. And, like, really good. Like, I was pretty blown away at how well. the MSI Claw AI8 plus or whatever the latest... The names, dude. Handheld, like, oh, stop.

Just call it the Deathbringer or something. Call it something memorable for crying out loud. Anyway... Deathbringer. I don't know, man. It doesn't matter. The point is just call it anything other than MSI Claw... The MSI Death Claw.

The AI8 Plus. Ew. Dude, remember Skull Trail? Yeah, that was cool. Dude, it was so sick. And we still remember it. It was so sick. 15 years from now, are we going to remember...

The logo is so sick, too. MSI, AI, now I'm even... I'm not even sure if I can remember it now. But anyway, that, uh, their handheld held up really well in comparisons with the, uh, the new Xbox. Yeah, okay, so ROG Xbox Ally X. Look at these logos, dude. Look at that, look at that. Oh, my goodness.

So cool. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my, oh my goodness, this isn't going to work, whatever. I totally did, actually. There. So cool. Apparently, that was very challenging politically to get over the line. I'm sure it was, but it was so sick. At a company like Intel. Oh, it was cool.

Yeah. Anyway, so good luck, Apple with the M5. Also, New Vision Pro. It's got the same $3,500 price tag as the first gen. It replaces the M2 chip. from the first gen with a new M5. So you get better memory bandwidth, 153 gigabytes per second,

up from 100. It now has a 120 hertz capable display, the M2 topped out at 100 hertz. It gets 30 minutes of additional claimed battery life. It's 100 to 150 grams heavier? That's actually really surprising. Is that just because of the woven strap being like two weaves now?

Does anyone actually know this? No idea. How could they pause? think making the vision pro heavier is the solution someone anyone chat no idea no trade-ins apparently wow no trade-in which is insane i mean is it insane they added weights to the back of the new strap to balance it out that's interesting interesting that's very interesting Okay. Man, the bigger issue for me was just the way it sat right on the bridge of my nose.

Oh, yeah. Really painful. Yeah. Maybe they're trying to reduce that. Yeah, uh, maybe. Apparently, I might be doing the short circuit for that. Oh, really? A bit of a wild choice.

Yeah, no, I can't kind of make sense. You use the Vision Pro once for like 20 minutes on Wancho? Yeah, but you like VR. Yeah, the last one I used was an index. Yeah, I mean, that's a good VR headset. You have your beyond now, right? Right. It has never turned on.

Right. It's literally sitting at my desk. Yeah. It has not gone to my house. Why would it? It would just be in danger. Yeah. His house is torn apart if you're tuning in a little bit late.

Yeah. But I will do it justice. I will do well. The Bose sound touch app will not be touching anyone ever again. This section of the show is written by Adam the Sex Machine Sonder Guard. Okay. Sorry, that's in the, it's in the notes. We have to, it's in the notes. We have to read the notes.

Adam was apparently feeling a little spicy when he was typing up the notes for this one. I heard you like your smart speakers. It would be a shame if we stopped supporting them. Don Bose probably, he writes. On February 18th, 2026, the day after the sexiest LTT writer turns 31, Bose will discontinue cloud support for all sound touch products this means that access to integrated services

like Spotify or tune in won't work to add insult to injury all app functionality will be discontinued that means no EQ no changing audio presets no multi-room playback so if you spent thousands of dollars on your Bose smart speakers

well hey don't worry about that they can still play music via Bluetooth ox and hdemei which is perhaps truly the smartest way to connect to speakers

Bose has not announced any plans to provide local only control via the app or any path for users to maintain the smartness of their speakers wow I don't think there's really much to discuss here other than

go fuck yourself bows this is not cool you need to fix this you need to just open source it because this is not acceptable not gonna lie I wasn't particularly interested in it but I can fully confirm I will not be buying bows anytime soon because of this that's just trash hate it gross like if you gave a full refund no problem but you're not you're not there's no way you were selling stuff as recently as just very recently, and now you're just not going to have it do the things that you said it would do. Unbelievable.

I think it's time for an unbelievable transition to after dark. Oh, wait. No, there's one more quick thing. As of this week, there's an official LTT skin for OCCT, the overclocking and stability testing tool. as part of their official V-15 release. Really? Yeah, right. There's a few LTT Easter eggs

as well as our color scheme used for the theme. Yay. Okay, here we go. I'm just going to bring this up. Dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It should be like a drop count detector. New skins, Corsair and LTT.

Yay! How cool is that? Yay! Oh, that's just a link to our channel. Whoops. It looks pretty good. Yeah, right? How cool is that?

I like it. They've also got some new features. stable release of a new storage test brand new storage benchmark major 3D adaptive test update also alongside a corsair skin and many more features it's live right now on OCbase.com

just thought that was kind of cool thought I'd highlight that all right after dark time it is actually I'm going to make you guys start it without me I'm going to run to the washroom okay got him did we talk about the newsletters thing I don't think we did

No, I was going to skip it Okay We talked about a lot of Never mind We are not talking about Newsletters You don't get to hear about it Ignore

Ignore that I've ever said it There's nothing Yeah At all Yeah Hi LD I think they're talking about you

Have you seen that LinkedIn Ops users Into allowing their data to be used For content creation AI training I miss Lena Con

Okay, so me too No I didn't see that because LinkedIn, why would I care But the other crazy part about this Did you hear about the OneDrive thing? One Drive picture opt out Oh good God

Here we go This was a post on our subreddit I don't know how real this is Oh, you don't want OneDrive scanning your face you can opt out but only three times a year I don't know how real this is

I have not actually checked this but what the heck man I want to see if this is posted anywhere else I want to know if this is actually real or not can someone try this can someone check so it's in the

features section of some settings page for OneDrive I don't have OneDrive. I don't do the OneDrivey thing. I rip it out of every computer I touch. Yeah. Like immediately. So I don't know.

But if any of you have OneDrive or use OneDrive, could you check this? I would like to see. It seems so insane that it doesn't seem real. This isn't rolled out production. It's a test feature. Okay. So real. Well.

maybe the three times a year thing goes away when it's not a test feature anymore i don't know who knows there's something even worse from facebook says handyman facebook's ai can now suggest edits to the photos still on your phone dude everything's got to get more and more local man it's it's crazy i i'm like with that bo's topic that we just had i am not interested in buying smart connected things if they connect to a unique app anymore like ever. I'm just not going to do it. If I can't connect it to a home assistant type thing or if it isn't just open and potentially you know, uh, wireable by, by anyone at any time, um, that's acceptable. Like if they didn't build the connection to home assistant, if they didn't build the thing, but it's open so you could do it

yourself. That's fine. I'll go with that. Actually love that. I'm not going to say that's fine. That's great. It's cool. Sounds good. Um, but if it has to be able to do it. Um, but if it has, um, but if it has to go into some proprietary app not interested don't care don't want it won't buy it um and that feels the same for this type of stuff like get out of my data i am i am uninterested i don't want you snooping my phone i know we give perms to these apps so that we can like upload photos to them and stuff gross rip it off my phone i'll find a way um yucky don't like it don't like it the future is oddly enough, the past. The future is not cloud. The feature is storing your own things or making your own cloud. There's a lot of options for that. Make your own someone else's computer.

Yeah. There's actually a bunch of very good options for that these days. I don't remember the names of them off top my head, but with a simple Google search, I'm sure you'll find a few. You can make effectively your own like Google-like experience, Google Drive-like experience for you, for your family, friends maybe potentially included. There's a lot of options. Someone said hexOS plug. That's not even what I'm talking about, to be completely honest. I think, kind of, but I mean, I would want the local UI.

They've promised that they're doing it. Do you know if it's out? No, no, I'm a turn-ass scale guy. Yeah, so you have no idea. I don't know either. But I'm not interested in that until it has completely local features. and even then just for just for wanting to learn the tinkering reasons I'd very likely go that's why I built it because it's what we run here and I wanted to delete data in a safe

environment and now I can't because it's full so now I get to have the fun of drive replacement yeah yeah and I do my cloud backups people said embrace your AI overlords or you'll be torched in the future it's like yeah but you can you can run that locally right yeah They're ours. They are our robots to control. Those are free. Those are open source. Those can be ours as well.

There's thousands now. Screw it. I don't need your junk. I mean, on that same vein, LDI, I have used cloud code yet. Most of YouTube seems to be sleeping on it still, but it is truly next level. My spaces aren't. It's what you make of it. And I've made it everything which AI has been promised to me.

Yeah, like I think that was one of the most. interesting parts of, I mean, it's not out yet, but just hearing Linus talk about it with Linus's AI coding thing was that he did what most users would do and just use chat GPT. Oh, until I couldn't anymore. It was awful. There are better systems for it. Yes. Are you using those now? Well, I haven't really had to do any more vibe coding. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. And I'm not realistically going to use the vibe coding probably that I did. I haven't seen it yet. We'll see. Jordan told me that the real one is way. better so I didn't play around with yours enough and the time gap between them was pretty big but

I mean I fully expected that to happen but I think the conclusion of the video is going to be really interesting yeah because you did make something and there was a value to it because in the time that I've waited around for a real human to do the work I've been using it it's been done for a while still I was using it before it was done that's true and the other thing is that it allowed me to find issues with the system implemented with real humans using it and workflows and everything

integrated into the business that would have made it easier for me to put together a design document for a real developer. A lot of people really struggle with like developer design dogs. Oh, dude. Yeah.

So if you can start playing around and inform yourself a little bit and then ask. Because I don't know what I don't know and you can't predict everything about a workflow in a business environment. Yeah.

And so having something where we go, okay, we are running this now. Here it is. It's garbage. Assume you're going to throw it all away. But here are the functionalities that it has that are good. I like this. I don't like this. And here are the functionalities it needs.

That's such a valid use case. Even the don't likes, though, like telling someone what the thing they should make should not be is actually quite valuable. Great. Yeah. Yeah. 100% Yeah Going into Clarnadet for this shirt

But it's okay Because I'm about to win big on the lottery Slash-S Slash-ish Slash-S Linus Now that Jelly Finn is officially on HexOS Have you gotten a chance to check it out?

Not yet Matter of time I really want to do it But not yet Hey L-L and D Linus you have lots of tools and machines for LTT.

But what's one that you can't justify today, but hope to someday? Oh. Oh, dude. I want one of those, I want one of those, like, ink-based 3D printer majigs that can make, like, full color, anything you could possibly want. Oh, yeah. Seb and Tynan and I saw one that Joel was looking at, too. So cool. Amazing, are they?

So cool. They're getting cheaper. Like, you can make, yeah. Well, like, that's the thing. That's the thing about anything that isn't a GPU in technology is it does have a tendency to get cheaper over time, which is so cool. Would you want a UV printer? Are you talking more about the full-color 3-D printers?

I think I'm talking about the UV printer. Whatever, whatever, oh, man, I forget. They're the ones that can print onto, like, metal and stuff. Okay, those are super cool, too. That's a UV printer, but I think you're talking about a full-color 3-D printer. Yes, that's the one. Yeah, those are really kind of insane, honestly. And they can even do, like, clears.

And they showed off, I'd say, Joel, 3D printing nerd, showed off a, you know, the original aliens, one of the eggs. A little egg sack things. That's so cool. And it had, like, goop and slime that was clear on the outside of it. Like, it was coated in stuff. And it's, like, multi. It's just incredible, incredible. So cool.

And Luke, have you not been able to get Linus to buy? it hasn't really often been an issue to be completely honest Luke knows how to make the business case for a thing I just don't think I'm not hard to convince when there's a shiny new toy to the I mean maybe to a fault well do I have a collab to suggest with you I'm just thinking like honestly after a while I sort of stopped asking oh there was a there was a float plane back when we used to have the float plane meetings there was a float plane meeting where I asked your like I don't know approval permission whatever to like buy some servers and you basically gave me a like why are you asking me this response oh man sorry sorry sorry usually mind but it was like a lot and right next

my eye sorry um and from then on I couldn't remember what I said you completely blindsided me with that I don't remember the exact wording but it was something along those lines of just like like what do you even mean like what have you done the work to like validate that this makes sense and I'm like yeah and you're like then do it I'm just like okay so after a while I just stopped asking yeah I don't know and the answer is usually we're spending about the same amount or maybe less and we're getting more so yeah yeah so that So then why have you waited so long? Exactly.

Yeah. So after a while, it was just like, okay, we'll just operate. Yeah, okay. And then for the lab, usually it's been like, okay, but why isn't there 12 of them instead of four? So it's like, yeah, I don't know. Dude, it's driven me crazy how long it's taken for us to spend money and buy things for the lab. Like, we're finally building the display testing slash like theater room so that every time a new big display comes in, I don't have to install it at my house.

I know it's like fun and everything, Linus and Plou for Linus and Adam dragging giant TVs across his basement, but we actually like, when we shoot at my house, we tear everything apart. I don't actually prefer it. And so, yeah, we're going to have like a nice, like home theater room here at the office that can also be used as a light controlled space for display testing more generally. I'm very excited for it. Labs is getting some structures, man.

we've just hijacked basically as they were left you know some furniture and stuff left and I think the TV that you had and stuff but like the scrapyard horse sets we're just using them I know I saw that I saw that mine is being used as the display testing room right now mine is being used as the overflow display testing room

mostly for like phones yeah and then we'll also be used for some I don't remember the exact name of it but something it's not being used for that yet but DMS wants to use it for like a reflection chamber or something. So he wants to put like cinder blocks and other things around the walls and something, something, and then we'll still use it

for the phone display testing, blah, blah, blah. So we're using all of that, basically. And then the home theater room's coming in. And it's like, okay. You put up a bunch of walls and we were just like, no, yes. Well, yeah. We will move in.

It was never, it drives me crazy because it was never a budgetary constraint. We just couldn't get things done. Yeah. Well, it's, yeah. It's a big task. We got this. We got this.

It's going to take time, but we're cooking. Yeah. We're cooking, slowly cooking. Yeah. Slow cooking. But yeah, if anyone was wondering what happened at the scrapyard war set. Immediately deployed. Yeah, we're using them for stuff.

We kind of needed some box rooms. I don't know if I told you this, but I stole my audio setup for my team for well- Yeah, I mean, sure. No, no, I was, I helped you get into the building. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, cool. Good chat. Hello, Sinus, Luke, and Ban.

Sinus, in my new house, I'm building a land center like yours. Nice. Is it worth running dedicated networking to each system or just a single line to the area and then a switch? Oh. Well, it depends how far it is. If it's not very far, then running two Ethernet cables is basically the same amount of work as running one Ethernet cable. there can be constraints like if you have a conduit for instance

and only so many cables will fit in it then maybe don't do that in terms of is it worth it man probably not like if you had a 2.5 gig or I mean even better a 10 gig uplink

to a switch in your land room you're good for a very very very long time I unless I was going for 100% completion, I wouldn't bother. I would just run a switch. Usually been my answer.

Linus, a while back you said you were going to daily drive a fold phone again. Is that no longer the case? That is the case. There's a fold seven sitting on my dresser at home. It's just such a hassle to change phones. I haven't even finished moving over to the iPhone air. I've pretty much completed all my notes on the AirPods Pro 3s, which I took possession. of on the same day that I got the iPhone air

and I haven't fully migrated to the air yet. Hey, DL, my co-worker was telling me about back in the day how he used to tape pins on his CPU to get more performance. Have you ever done this and how does it work? The best I've ever done was like a graphite pencil mod where you could change the resistance by penciling a certain amount of like an artist, pencil between a couple of contact points and that yeah that's that's the closest i've gotten

hey duke king and jester how do you ensure you're not going to grand on a project i have a tendency to invest too much on a single project and want to know how you deal with it thanks dash Port. ADD is my superpower. I get bored and move on from things before they become too much of a resource sync for the most part. There are some notable exceptions. LTT Labs. Let's go with that.

But that's like on principle that I'm sticking with it. I think it's a really important thing. And I think we haven't delivered on the vision yet. So we, so it's one of those things where I think. you do something halfway and then it fails well that wasn't a failure in the idea that was a failure in the execution and so until we've actually executed on the idea of it i can't say for sure if it's a good idea or not gelsinger problem um so i that one we're going to stick with but everything else i think is mostly gated by just sort of how much attention span we collectively

have for it internally and we're busy people so it can be um very easy for things to get backburned and then if they get back Bernard, they must not have been that important and we move on and we do something else. Hey, LLD, I was wondering if any of you frequented dial-up BBSs back in the day, blackboard message servers, I think, is the blackboard message system.

No, no? Nope, I am, I am 39, so I was pretty young during the dial-up days. Bulletin board system. Yeah, that was, I knew they existed. I'm sure you did too, but like, By the time I was really knowledgeable and cruise around and doing stuff, they were previous thing. Yep.

It was forums for me. And like chat, like the palace was my first big, like chat room. Chat rooms and forums. Hey, Wanda Delol, catching you live from a research trip to Canada. When is what gets me through my PhD? What's your advice on staying positive after major setbacks in a project? Oh man Shear dogged force of will

I know it can suck to hear that But sometimes it's literally the only thing That can possibly do anything Team Team sort of grit and unity Having other people who are pulling with you On the same rope helps a lot Even if you're face first in the mud

Having just lost a tug of war Those are the only real things right like we're social creatures we we want to we want to work together we want to accomplish things and yeah it can be really tough experiencing setbacks especially when they were you know outside of your control for instance uh sometimes it can be even worse when they were within your control because then there's the whole blame situation right but just remembering you're all in the same team working together it's all you can really do and communicate to stakeholders whether that's i think you mentioned university so communicate to your teacher potentially or your I don't know you said research so

maybe whoever is running your whatever program you're in communicate to other team members try to build out a reasonable plan to get back on track or alter the scope a little bit and make it more manageable but talk as much as you got to do the whole grit thing that we're referencing at the beginning talk as well communicate you don't want to show up a day or two before submission and be like oh man this like this thing kind of blindsided us like a month ago and we've been off track for a while we're not quite going to make the the delivery time what can we do about this no have that conversation now um and then try to figure it out unless you think you can alter scope or do something they can

get you back on track without that um but but be very sure about that before you go on that route Dan, I've got to get Luke's take on this. Well, you ask him then. Is doing a Windows AD worth it for a home lab, four to ten users who you already help with PC issues and upgrading over time, and just for my own home lab use? I think it's a cool idea for a home lab

because a lot of the ideas of home labs is learning real environments. Godspeed. Yeah. AD is so much fun. But did he poo? no i don't get it that would be plural wouldn't it godspeed uh your piano one i think it has got to be one of the goat jokes one of the goat pungs no no that's actually like i've told that to a bunch

of people i'm not even kidding that's like seriously one of my favorite puns ever i it's so good no it's not that funny it's really good it's not good it's not good it's actually really good it's just so dumb it's very good someone's asking what it is again oh well you tell it i'm not gonna do it as good i'm not gonna do it as good you gotta send it you gotta do it man so we were we were just hanging out at natalie's amd ultimate tech upgrade and i'm just like i'm goofing around on set because that's kind of what I do. You got to kind of bring that class clown energy because it's not just about

you and the audience. Because like it's work, right? Like I'm working. I'm getting through the work day and a big part of you know, helping keep everyone engaged in the task and enjoying themselves on camera is kind of

is kind of bringing that energy to the set. And so I tend to even if I know that it's not going to make it into the video I tend to goof around a lot And also because I'm just like, I don't know I'm just like a goofy person I like to enjoy life

And enjoy spending time with people And so I will often be looking for any Yes, any opportunity to like make a dad joke And so I'm like tediously working on this piano And I'm like Pee and so I go okay okay

okay how do you know that this is the number one instrument we're like what well they didn't call it poo ano it's not good it's not good it's stupid

it's so dumb oh they did a call back to that and the new AMD upgrade right oh my god it's so good it's so dumb Your delivery the first time was so good.

Well, I couldn't. I couldn't deliver it with a straight face because it was so dumb. It was so good. It's an albumed instrument because it's the piano, not the piano. It's like multifaceted, too. No, it's not. It's very deep. It requires a high IQ to understand.

No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. It does for sure. Oh, man. Dude, it's great. I think people were, I think people didn't see it. coming though because there is there is probably

a solid argument for the piano being the number one instrument the number one instrument because it's it's so technical it's the it's versatility is so great it's an incredible musical instrument and so people are kind of

it gets it the best setups misdirect the listener yeah as I said as completely Completely as possible. Right. It requires extreme IQ.

So we've got everybody sitting, everybody in the room is thinking about all the technical reasons that a piano might be considered the most superior of all musical instruments. And then you hit them with a pee-pee poo-poo joke. Literally watching the episode, I was like, I think it, I mean, I think it is the number one instrument. And then, and then. Did you drop that? Because it's a piano, not a poeno. And I just lost it. Child. Lossed it, dude.

I think it's contender for goat pun. No, actually, I think that I think the underwear today was a superior setup and delivery. You just didn't get it because it was a much higher IQ joke. I think those are better.

I mean, they're a different class. I don't think the Boulder Rock one was better. It's a different class. Because it kind of goes through. Here's our bolder designs. They rock. Come on. Okay, that's more of a pure pun. The other one was more of like,

just set up punchline. I don't, I don't actually, I hate that pun has become the word to mean anything that is a joke. Wordplay? Yeah, we're, well, puns are wordplay, but now anything that's a joke is a pun. No. The way people use it. No way. Dude, they use it like scam. Like, anything that's a bad deal is a scam, even if it was exactly as advertised. It's like, no, no, no, scam means a specific thing. Scam means misled. Pund is like word, like Amelia Bedelia. I, that's weird. That's weird. I haven't experienced this I don't make the rules I have not experienced this

Check the laundry You know There's a whole book on that The kids don't read these days It's like where they're You but I have not experienced it's like people using Slash-S To mean things that are not sarcasm

Sarcasm is a very Specific thing It's verbal irony with an intent To cut To inflict Hurt feelings It doesn't just mean like I'm saying a different thing than this is a joke this is a joke or that I'm saying a

different thing than what I actually think that is not what sarcasm is um good job understanding english everyone that's sarcasm pause for awkward silence hit me dad ideal I am a running the Toronto Waterfront Marathon this weekend. Now, are they running it, or are they running it? Oh. This is actually both funny and a legitimate question. But I think what is the biggest athletic event?

It's a pun! I don't get it. It's not a pun. Please explain the joke to me. Okay, go ahead. What is the biggest athletic event you have either participated or attended in? participated if we're correcting people's English no it's in which you have either participated or attended you can't say

participated in that's even more English sorry so good thank you Canadian English you correct someone and apologize I define biggest most people there or what most Important? Most important to you? Most important to who? Attended. Okay, so attended. I don't know. Like a hockey game, I guess. I don't. Attended seems lame. Skip attended. What's participated, I think. Attended for all of us is going to be like hockey game. I don't, I don't. Is that incorrect? I think he's English. He's probably been to a footy game. I think this is more of like, have you been in? With their tea and crumpets perchance. Now there's just violence mostly. Violence and chanting. it's like yeah no I think this is more actually like if you competed in a in a hockey game or something like that yeah that's how I interpreted it but I yeah the attended just throw it off slightly but yeah absolutely I know what they mean by it they have 180 characters and do we mean big in terms of number of attendees or big in terms of importance because you like won provincial championships and stuff right yeah like I've never done that I did nerd sports like I was never good at sports like I was never good at sports But nerd sports was sick. It was sick.

It has more views than your provincial championship. Depending on where you put the line, my participation in nerd sports might be... More people watched you suck at hockey than watched you be good at hockey. That's so sad, but it's true. I don't know. Probably the biggest one I, like, participated in somewhat decently. It would be maybe like a badminton tournament or something. Oh, I'm so upset.

the upcoming badmontology team tournament i the timing just sucks for me like i don't have time to put together a squad or join a squad right now because i'm like busy just do it on the play no i am not going to be able to um like it fills up in like a day and they announced it like earlier today and people have been like putting together their teams all day and like i've been at work and also like i didn't already like kind of think oh yeah i guess that's coming up and like like start putting things together, so I think I'm just going to miss it. It sucks. That sucks.

That was when I got injured last year, though, so maybe it just is fine. I've been like, I'm still not fully recovered from tennis elbow from overuse at that tournament last year. Linus, instead of incrementally buying bigger and better TVs, when are you going to just get the wall from Samsung or for some micro LED goodness? Man, I got to see them be seamless, I have not seen those be a better experience yet. Yeah, I, um, and also, there's so much more expensive. Like, yeah, I could go from 115 to 136, I think.

Uh, what, what are the different sizes of the wall these days? The wall. Okay, 11th studio album by English rock band Pink Floyd. Nice, good. Not what I was talking about. Great album. Stupid name for our TV. Okay, here we go. The ultimate.

visual experience for luxury completely modular right yeah but they have like kind of for the the home ones they have like kits like they have ones that they expect you to buy here shop now

I couldn't just buy like one panel for like sorry no items are available see the wall the bathroom or something so annoying why is this hard all in one 130 inch 2K yeah no

I'm going to spend that kind of money and I'm not going to go 4K you've got to be kidding and that's because these are commercial displays so it doesn't always make it shut up uh oh no am i oh am i just i'm just looking at this one right now what is happening right now direct view LED okay we good well oh my god now i'm here lcd video wall shop now what a confusing website what just happened okay here we go this is a video wall how is this is a video wall how is this a video wall? That's not a video wall.

That's a 55-inch commercial display. Why would you call it that? Ugh. Oh, it has extremely narrow bezels, I guess. I guess I'll allow it. Wait, that's it? That's all of LED video wall?

Are you kidding me right now? You cannot convince me that this is not a terrible website. how did I end up so lost you managed to navigate to the business site well yeah because that's where I'm supposed to be it's part of their business thing also how do you mean I managed

okay so let's go back to luxury living for luxury living okay okay I don't just want a brochure I want to I want to browse the site seamless design bold look okay we go all the way down all the way down, all the way down,

shop the wall products, buy now. Here we go. And it just takes me to this one. Oh, no, this is, which one did I click last time for crying out loud? Okay, direct view LED, IA series. Well, how do I see the whole thing? I don't just want the one. Oh, I can, IA series here.

Here, okay, are we good? Okay, I think we're good. Wait, what? That's it. Oh, oh, oh, I can click here. Okay, so they have a 110 inch. I wouldn't get that. That's like 1080P anyway, so that's stupid.

so 146 inch 220 grand so what I'm going to spend $220,000 I'm going to have seams in my display and they say seamless can't oh is this one seamless hold on a second is this one seamless anyway there's other drawbacks too I truly don't know what the input leg is

but yeah cooling the room is a challenge these things draw Mondo power and then maybe more importantly they're not actually necessarily better than the 115 that I have now in terms of performance and a big part of the reason for that is that they don't crank as bright

surprising amount of reviews yeah no bad performance low price only 3,000 hertz what what what what what yes I recommend this product like clearly people are just trolling a bit big for a single bedroom apartment

three stars like I would just ignore it fake they should do verified purchase there's no way that this isn't written by AI Um, yep, this has got to be just, someone's just written with AI, probably a story. Like, I don't think any of this is real. I, I would, if I was Samsung, I would probably just turn off any not verified purchase reviews for a product like this, because it's clearly not helping anyone. Yep.

Hi, all, I'm proposing tomorrow. Oh, congratulations. What were any of your, I know that she's the one moments with your significant others? she learned video games to spend time with me she did play some like very simple games like as a kid like dangerous Dave was a favorite of Yvonne's but she like learned FPS like shooter games to play them with me

that's a pretty solid sign she's a keeper also she stuck with me even though I was such a loser in university there's a lot of the one moments for for me I don't know what hers were Like I must be a lot better looking Than I think I am or something Because really like I was irredeemable early on

I don't get what she was thinking Hey, WANDL Question for Luke When buying things like sporting equipment Or tools for yourself How do you balance cost and quality? See this is what Now I'm going to lose my cheapness

Flag Trate I don't know what you want to call it truth I generally okay maybe I won't completely lose it I tend to buy less stuff

but I try to buy better things I go with the whole like try to buy something that's going to last basically forever option I like to think that the tools that I have bought

are generally pretty good I'll spend time and research them like the drills the drills that I bought when I finally was like, okay, I need to have my own drills. What brand? Milwaukee brushless. I was quite happy about that purchase.

You're going to pass. And I, yeah, I try to do that for things. So, yeah, fewer of them, better things is usually what I try to do. Buy the cheap one from Harbor Freight, and then when it breaks, get the most expensive one you can. And I have done that, yeah. Or just borrow them from work. Holy shit.

Sordering arts Dangerous Dave That John Romero Yeah Yeah for sure I had no idea Yeah All right

Let's play some dangerous Dave shall we How do I How do I start Okay Why are we dangerous daving That's the game that Yvonne had liked Oh okay Yep this was like Yvonne's

gaming when I met her. And it is really hard. Like the way the fall physics, if you could call them that work. It's got air control. That's kind of sick. It's pretty rough.

There's only 10 levels. But getting through them is quite difficult. Yes, chat, by the way, I did hear you. I will call Yvonne, we can ask her. How do you get that Ruby? I don't think you're meant to. Oh, it's his bait? Oh, balls.

It's hard. I promise it's legitimately very hard. Oh, my God. I've been trying to think about mine for Emma, by the way, and I think there was when my grandpa was passing away, we had to go down to Arizona. And I didn't even ask her to go. I didn't expect her to go.

But she went, and she was an absolute trooper the whole time. did so much work. Like we were clearing out his house and like my mom and I had to go through a bunch of his documents and figure what we needed to shred and do whatever else. And she disappeared for a few hours and I assumed like, I don't know what she's doing whatever. Sounds good. And then when she came back, she was like, well, I cleaned out the entire garage.

And it was just like, what? Nice. She was going hard the whole time. And that was actually very cool. All right. Yeah. Hey. Hey, you're live on the WAN show.

So, um, chat was asking, like, when was my, like, you know, you know she's the one moment with you.

And I was kind of talking about you, like, learning left for dead just to, like, play games with me and stuff like that. Uh, and oh my God, I'm trying to play dangerous Dave right now.

I'm about to get my, but, oh, dang it. It really is dangerous. Dangerous, Dave. Yeah, don't, the point is that I was talking about how what I wasn't really sure what my redeeming qual

oh for crying out loud that bloody spider um I wasn't sure what my redeeming qualities were um and they wanted to know what your like how you knew moments were um oh man yeah right tough I think a really long time back oh that's brutal about dangerous Dave. I just died again. Not you, Van. Not you of us. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I figured. Honestly, I feel like I was a dumb girl back then, and I was just in love. All right, thanks. That's kind of what I expected to hear. It doesn't make it easier, but just chemicals. Not unexpected. No, I mean, I knew you were smart and you challenged me, and I liked that we were able to communicate and talk about things that we don't, like, that's

not easy to talk about. I liked that you were, like, so far I know English. Sorry? So far, I know English. You're smart. Can communicate. That's good.

You were very charming, which I feel like is sometimes the opposite of me, and I needed that. Like, not just charming, but, like, really laid back in some ways. Not every way. Yeah, it's not usually. balanced me if that makes sense you were like you know we talk about yin and yang they're opposites but they like mesh well together okay so we got yvonne being responsible and stable and we've got me being probably the first time i've ever heard you describe is laid back yeah well i mean i was pretty

high strong it's all relative it's all relative yeah okay yeah like i'm i'm i'm much more easy going now but okay I feel like in some ways I was high strung because of you though so I don't know I don't know what's been like I am all right I think that's probably enough of this for now

okay all right see you soon love that's really funny that's very funny I mean it's about yeah I'm not going to lie about what I expected but there you have it

you heard it from the horse's mouth Up next, as requested, making good use of the gift card before the holiday season. Thank you. Actually, a lot of people have been using the gift cards. Appreciate that, legitimately. They thought they would save them, but they can't help themselves. As requested, making good use of the gift card before the holiday season. Any of you all have Halloween outfits planned?

No. I haven't had a Halloween outfit since we had the house. The house was our office. and I scared people on the porch. Well, people are so upset. They're like, don't call your wife a horse. What do you think a hoe is short for? Oh, my God.

No, it's... You misdirect him. You got a misdirection. When did you call your horse? No, it's an expression from the horse's mouth. Like, it just means from the source. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have... Yeah, no, I know, I know.

That's not a ding. That wasn't a pun. No, it was a joke. Dings are not for puns. They're for dad jokes. Exactly. Oh. oh dude i'm in such rough shape i did a um the my son's taekwondo school like no disrespect to

taekwondo but it's not like a serious fighting martial art for the most part um but i still wanted the kids to like learn martial arts it's good for you know discipline and good to learn to stick with something until you you know get your black belt it's good socially it's good it's good for lots of things. It's good for getting you out of your shell a little bit. My kids can tend to be a little bit shy sometimes and I think, you know, forcing them to, you know, shout and

practice sparring. There's a lot of things that I think it can be really helpful for developmentally. I'm not saying it's for everyone, but I'm saying it's something that I believed in, so all my kids have had to do, Taekwondo. Anyway, the point is that the instructor, before this particular organization

converted to Taekwondo, used to train under the same, you know, master or whatever, but it used to be called, um, something combat something. And it was like very street brawler, how to break bones and, um, and get away kind of. And so I had actually asked him, because my son's been losing a little bit of interest with the, the taekwondo side of things. And so I asked the instructor, I was like, hey, do you want to do like some privates with us and do some more like, some more like grappling, some more submissions some more like like more stuff you don't teach the kids like you know neck

takedowns and and stuff like that and he's like I'd love to um you know he's a super cool guy anyway the point is that I had a I had a session with him on um Wednesday no no what was it Wednesday yeah I had it no no what day what day? or things. Yeah, I had a session with him on Wednesday night right after work. So I had a long day at work. And then my son and I went and did like like a bunch of like neck takedowns, uh, chokeholds, neck submissions, chokehold counters and like basically a bunch of stuff. And so Thursday I had a long drive

to an AMD ultimate tech upgrade long day, AMD ultimate tech upgrade. And then, oh sorry, no, first Wednesday after after the training i went and i had badminton training for two hours so just like multi feeds if you guys are wondering what that looks like um basically uh you can check out the badminton insight channel we did a collab with them where they had me train like a pro for a day um it's pretty brutal but basically this is not was not me uh i'm in i'm in all black here and i mostly looked like that but you go pretty hard so you basically are just running

getting stuff sometimes missing them the point is it's pretty tough and then yesterday I had ladder so I had competitive ladder I'm like I'm dying my body is dead this is the ghost of me it's my Halloween costume

it's pretty good yeah um like I could barely shoulder check in my car on Thursday and then I had to go play ladder that night I lost five out of my six games. I dropped like 100 ELO points. I'm so upset. Like, actually very upset. I should have just not even played. Yeah, probably not. Linus, what difficulty do you recommend for ANO-1800? I am still struggling with outpacing expert AI of the show. Whatever you enjoy. Anno is fun. If you're

not having fun, just turn it down. It's fine. The high difficulty AI also extremely cheats. Yeah, that's something that's always been a problem. For Anno games, like even going back to the very first one, which had exhaustible iron mines, and every map would only have, like, a couple iron mines. So your ability to acquire iron was, like, extremely limited. It was kind of like Warcraft II and gold mines. Like, there's just, there's no friggin gold on the map.

Nah, that wasn't that big of a problem in Warcraft 2. Much worse, much worse than gold in Warcraft 2. But you've got this finite resource compared to something like Supreme Commander, where the resources are infinite and it's just a question of like how you manage your economy so you've got this like finite iron resource but the biggest problem that I noticed was

they wouldn't have access to a certain resource that would allow them to build a thing yet would just have it and there was explanations like maybe they got it through trading but then even if you like laser watched their base like no yeah so so they would just

so all the iron on the map would be exhausted but they would like still be able to build stuff with iron and it's just like come on I don't like that yeah so I don't love those forms of difficulty yeah but I mean realistically ano can be enjoyed in any way you can play against the eyes

against people you can just spawn a new world and just build it's a great game there's a ton of people that play on the minimum difficulty I think they call it beauty building no uh what's it called shoot it has a name

tiny glade. What? I don't know what that's. That's a game where you build pretty cottages. Okay. Oh, man, why can I not remember what it's called? Are you sure it's not called beauty building? Yeah, I don't think so.

I think it's called something else. Maybe you're right. Beauty build, city layers. Beauty building. I mean, I did search. There are people that say beauty building, but I searched beauty building, so I don't know if that's like... I was going to say the same thing, yeah.

Oh, no, anyways, there's a pretty large subset of people that play on the lowest difficulty and then just try to make really cool-looking cities instead of the most efficient cities. And then some people play on higher difficulties and try to make the most efficient cities. I even know some people play on minimum difficulty and try to make obsessively efficient cities

and they just don't worry about the difficulty of the game while doing that. Apparently, it's called beauty building. Sure, I don't know. Every build is a beauty build Because this game is beautiful Oh Beauty building

Pax for mana demos out right now Launched during Steam Next Fest I could have sworn it was called something else Okay well it shows you There might be another name for it I don't know No I mean this seems to be a thing This seems to be a thing

I don't know I don't know Okay How do you deal with a product you like being bought Out by a company that you're morally or ethically opposed to, for example, EA or more specifically, Battlefield 6.

It's tough and it's becoming tougher in this increasingly consolidated world where the companies that make the products that you enjoy are increasingly owned by giant, objectively evil multinational corpse or owned by nations with very questionable track records around human rights and extrajudicial killings and all kinds of truly horrible things. There's also this is unrelated to what they're talking about with BF6, but it is related to the whole

company and ethics thing. There's also like, there seems to be a bias towards avoiding the loud ones instead of necessarily avoiding the worst ones. Yeah. Which is, also interesting. I don't know. It's tough. You've got to pick your own lines and trying to assume that everyone else is going to pick the exact same lines is just going to lead you to be frustrated needlessly. So don't do that. But yeah, pick a line. If that's your line, then that's your line. Hey, fellas, after seeing the server video, I was curious about the process of upgrading servers. I imagine upgrading is very expensive and requires new cooling solutions. How often do they do that?

Cooling solutions? No, I wouldn't for the most part. Wouldn't cooling solution or the whole thing? Upgrading servers. Like we've definitely done it over the years but that's a very small business thing

to do. Large businesses enterprise data center you run it as long as the total cost of ownership makes sense and then you decommission. it. Wow, that's actually very interesting because I didn't even interpret it that way. I interpreted upgrading servers as replacing servers. Yeah, exactly.

I didn't even think about it. Yeah. Now, when you are replacing servers and you're upgrading the cooling in the data center, if that's what you're asking about, that is a huge problem. We actually discussed that very briefly in the SFU supercomputer tour. Oh, yeah, I kind of figured that one would have gotten your attention. tension. Yep. So because they have so little power going into that building, I mean, to be clear, they thought it was a lot back in the day.

It used to be apparently like the control center for all the BC hydro, like power for the lower half of our province. Like it was built with lots of power and networking or whatever, but then these new AI servers came out and all of a sudden they had to reroute. I think it's like, don't quote me on this, but I think it's like a third of, of the power going into the data center for just the GPU servers that are just like this like one row and they're not even full to full density like to actually build a fully built out fully dense AI data center would require this just utterly obscene power density like

it's like it's insane um and it was it was a big problem they actually had to take down a bunch of nodes in order to completely re-rout all of the networking and power from one side of the data center to the other in order to even do this deployment and consolidate enough of it that it could be done. Huge, huge problem.

And like the cooling that they added. So they added three more of those evaporative cooling towers that they have outside. And they were what, I think they said, 1.2 million a pop or something like that to handle the additional heat load. Who! Spicey.

And to be clear, like it happens. D. Hollinger in chat said that really depends these days with the constant security issues we tend to have to do it quite often. But yes, from a hardware perspective, usually just replace a physical server, but not always. And like with even the like location services we've used with like OVH or whatever else, we've had individual servers that we are using get upgraded. Upgraded. Usually the problem is drives are dying and then they just use that opportunity to upgrade things or whatever else but yeah in my experience it's usually swapping out the whole the whole server last one i got for you here linus how have the first few days

of your 40th year on this point i've been going not yet not yet still in my 30s barely hanging on any updates on the full install of your new light switches no i need to follow that up We've got a bunch of really good sort of home stuff going. I still have the list to work on. And there's some new members of the writing team that you guys will be meeting after they complete their probation, assuming that they do. Knock on wood. And I'm very excited for some new home automation stuff at my house. Also some really cool stuff for the tech house.

One of the new guys actually flagged these heat pump water heaters. which I didn't know was a thing, but I guess makes sense. If you can heat water with gas, you could probably also heat water with a heat pump. But it just has like an HVAC system on the top of it and then the water tank under it. Yeah, pretty cool.

So we're going to be looking for all kinds of cool things. He also flagged a smart panel to me. So instead of putting smart breakers into a dumb panel, you just have a smart panel. And it can do all kinds of cool stuff. Like you could tell it, hey, if we're at the limit, then kill these ones because I don't need them that bad

so for something like Whaleand that could be amazing That would be really good Yeah right Whaleand's power situation is getting interesting Oh crap Pretty Jank says You are 39 meaning you are living in your 40th year Linus Right

Well that's depressing And I still haven't learned math But you're not there yet No I am Yeah but you're not at the 40th yet. Well, I'm not finished the 40th. I'm in my 40th, which is what they asked.

But how most people consider it? Well, most people is a very Western-centric point of view. Sure. No, they do, they number it differently. You are Western. Yehaw. So it would follow how you do it, would it not? Thanks for watching the WAN show.

See again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Yippie Kaye, motherfucker. Okay, bye. Merry Christmas Alright