The WAN Show - Sora is Dead - WAN Show March 27, 2026

Episode Date: March 28, 2026

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When West Jet first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion, inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. What's up, everyone, and welcome to the Land Show.

Okay, seriously, though, you need to calm down for a second. because we have a huge show this week. And you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news WAN show? Yeah. We're easing ourselves into it. Okay. April is going to be Good News Wandshow month. Oh, okay.

If it's not good news, it's not going to be in the WAN show. What if it's extremely important news? If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single carve out. It's just on TechLink. Single carve out. Or, or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN show. for the first WAN show in May. We should bring back the like really, really dark scene

for the single carve out bad news thing. We could do that. Then people can easily skip it. It's going to be a month of Good NewsWand show and we're going to be starting with some pretty freaking good news today. Sora is dead. That's right. Open AI just flipping flipped the switch.

It's gone. We're going to be talking about that. Also, in some mixed news, meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial. We'll get into it a little bit more depth later, but for starters, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff, and that may just be the tip of the iceberg. What else we got?

Or the Zuckerberg. Oh, very nice. I wish I thought of that the first time. Zuckerberg's tip. Anyways, Wine 11 is a game changer in potentially some actually really cool ways. And we have a double jeopardy here. A bigger battlemage has arrived.

And Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting IntelGBUs. No one knows why they didn't. But anyways. That was a really f***ed up thing for you to say. What? Zuckerberg's tip. Why would I want to think about that? The show is brought to you today by Java,

Squarespace, Tello and Proton Mail. alongside our rap partner D brand, our laptop partner, Razor, and our chair partner also Razor. Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is SORA is Dead, Long Live Spud. On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center

in a billion-dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago. Deal which is also coming to an end, according to the Hollywood Reporter. OpenAI is also scaling back some of ChatGPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools,

apparently codenamed Spud, as they continue down the path towards an initial public offering. It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model, preserved in some way, or just outright discarded as they walk away from SORA video generation.

Let's talk a little bit about to start the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable like ever. It could be. Okay. For sure. It could be. But two individual end users, I think that's going to be a tough sell.

I mean, there's been a theory craft that like, you know, fast forward hopefully a lot of years. and political campaigns could be custom tailored per person. Okay, but again, that's a B2B use case. That's not a consumer use case. Because it's all about who's paying for... Yeah, it's about who's paying for the token. Because at the end of the day, OpenAI has to figure out, and they really don't have a lot of time right now.

What a business model for their product is going to look like? Did individual users pay for tokens for Onsora? Is that how that worked? Um, my understanding is that... I only used it once for that video Riley and I did. Yeah, my understanding is that you would, you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it. Yeah, that's a little weird. I, I, the thing that I suspect could eventually happen is if, like, if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in, um, like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube, um, where YouTube stops being, well, maybe it starts embracing the, the name even more, you know, and it ends up being content that they're generating for you

based on your viewing habits. And eventually there are, there are no really creators. It's just platforms making content for you as a user. I could see viability there. But yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of SORA making any sense. And I don't think anyone else really did either. I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first like a few days. I mean, to me, what it was. was simply a marketing stunt. It was a billboard. I mean, they clearly

didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it. They kind of patched together that deal with Disney. I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some

influencers to get permission to use their likeness. So they generated a bunch of buzz that way. But I I heard and I don't know I don't know how true this is How much was Sora costing per day? Let me see if I can find a credible number

But from my understanding it was costing Anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars To as much as millions of dollars per day Uh Hold on a second Where is this from? Yeah, I've got this post on Reddit That has zero upvotes so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that.

That's what I was on as well. But CBC reports that an analyst, okay, sure, here we go. I will, oh my God. Okay. Where's the article? Oh, there it is. I'm going to derail this a little bit. I'm going to derail this a little bit.

We're going to come back to it for a second. Sorry, Noki, timestamp guy. You're just going to have to kind of work with me here. I have a confession to make. You add blockin? I installed Brave on my phone yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page. This is the first time that outside of content, we got them. Outside of content, I have engaged in web ad blocking.

How's the hat feel? I mean, hypocritical, right? because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here. That's the whole reason that I don't use it is because as someone whose business is supported by ads in a not insignificant way, it would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads. however I had and I kid you not

I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true I had no choice Luke I was forced to block ads was it one of those links that effectively if you click it

it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker I'm gonna see if I can find the right link yeah this is the one so I'm gonna open this link in Chrome here real quick and I'm gonna show you

what I'm talking about it's from it's an article I was trying to read on Electrek. I don't know. I don't know how well you guys are going to be able to see this here, but here's the article. Tesla is not, in fact, operating an autonomous vehicle service,

and I wanted to read the comments on this. You know what a fan of comments I am. Yeah, here it is. It's still, oh, no, no, okay. So it's fixed now, but it's not fixed because they fixed it. It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had.

So when I opened up, this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here, okay, just like this one, and extended all the way to cover the expand button. So I couldn't click... So tall? I couldn't, yeah, it was taller. So I couldn't click expand to see the comment section. I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it without engaging an ad blocker.

freaking irritating anyway on that note okay back to this cbc article one moment please let me just uh oh okay oh wow one of them disappeared generated by eye right right right right right uh so yeah cbc hold on dollar sign here we go where we at uh the platform was also by some accounts an expensive flop in november one analyst suggested it cost open a i about a dollar 30 u.s to generate a 10 second video that actually doesn't sound that crazy uh based on the 11.3 million daily videos he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day. And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost

and how much of it is your variable cost. Yeah, yeah. How much of it is the infrastructure that you had to build. GPUs that are already sitting there. In order to accommodate the volume of tokens, the volume of requests you're getting. And then how much of it is, the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did. And it's, it's hard to

decide how much of that fixed cost you amortize across how many of your, you know, your variable cost individual engagements, right? So it's going to be hard for us to say for sure. But what I think we can say with certainty is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability because like you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform yeah right and you know what's funny is and this is gonna kind of

this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster and a cost saver sort of on its head but let me kind of let me kind of present it this way YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a video platform, right? Whether we're talking Vod or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding. You've got to deal with all the storage.

You've got to deal with all the bandwidth. But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor. Yeah. Or at least not free commission labor. Yeah, like skimmed. They will be making money the more of them there are. Yes. Labor, yeah.

But the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches, well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing. They do have to store it. That kind of blows. And storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to. No. So, you know, there are still things that kind of blow about that. But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content.

So all they have to do is apply their. quality filter and algorithm and there's a path to a profitable platform there. Whereas on SORA, they had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was, on top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage. I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay, whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents. Whatever it is per generated video on the platform, they ain't paying for it unless it makes money.

Unless it generates revenue. So yeah, it's pretty clear that it was a showcase for their latest video generation model. And what they're going to do with that, I don't know, because they, yeah, like just going straight pay to play, straight B to B is obviously something that they could do. but to your point how big is the market

going to be for that and something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there because it's not like Open AI is the only one doing video generation right now yeah not even like right at that time

like at that time like oh AI social media platforms thing those were those were those were a big deal right okay I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost for the

the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now. Oh, is that what you're doing? We're still kind of building up, but there's like 5,200 on YouTube. Right. And about 1,800-ish on Twitch.

So let's say that's 7,000. Sure, let's say that. Hours streamed. We've been doing like four, I think. Well, we did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going. on until the show was over. I looked and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's crazy.

Let's say, I don't know if we're advanced HD or just standard. I'm not sure. Do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Do you need a bit of time? I can show it right now. Oh, you're ready. Yeah, let's see your math. So we're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now.

We're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel type. I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are. Full HD, 1080P, because I think I'm pretty sure we are streaming in that. Four hours streamed 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show, but let's just keep it where it is for now. And the cheapest area for viewership, generally of North America, and it's still 2,000 USD. That's wild.

Wait, shut up. Live streaming is expensive. We don't pay that much for every float plane Wancho stream, do we? Well, there's not that many viewers on float plane. Right, right. Oh, God. Yeah. There is a decent run of viewers on FloPlane.

But that's the IVS calculator. So like, and obviously you're going to start getting like volume discounts and stuff. But as far as my understanding goes, like KIC is running through IVS. Yeah. Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole. Because IVS, you know, parent company of Twitch, you know, their direct competitor. Yeah, 730 chatters on Flowplane. But the chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly.

because there's different forms of ad blocking that can block that. And we've never bothered to like do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate. Right. Because it doesn't matter that much. What's the value in that? Yeah. It's just like not. There are so many.

You guys let us know for sure every single week. There are like so many things that we could be working on that are probably more valuable than that. We are trying to get things like TV app and other things out. It's taking time, but they're coming. All right. Let's just highlight as we move out of the SORA discussion, the time that Luke and Riley tried SORA and played around with it last October. That is over at LMG.G slash flowplane.

That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there. All right. Dan, the paper says headline topic, but we're done that. I don't know what to do. You know what? I'm lost and confused. I think I do know what we're doing. More topics.

No. Okay, I'll take the paper down. There's going to be so... Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan. But first, I need to... Why are we doing more? Where is it?

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It's a very long description. And my eyes are going kind of blurry. Product information. There you go. Maybe product information should be above the other one. Maybe. Or it should be like in the title or something? Yeah.

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They're in like new condition, and you can get these for just 130 Canadian dollars. It's a bunch of really good stuff in this sale. So make sure that you check it out now, because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message, is picking up something either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax right off sale. All you have to do, oh shoot,

the mystery screwdrivers are apparently, sold out. Well, anyway, going to the hoodie, we apparently have smalls and stock still, all you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message. It will show your first and last name, or it can be anonymous if you prefer. You type up something and you click Bip-de-bap-a-pity check-out. Your order will go to, or your message will go to producer Dan, who will reply to it or just pop it up down there or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response. Dan, do you have any? Should We just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now.

Sure. That's all I got. Hi, specifically Luke. It's an interesting name for Luke. Anyway, I like it. Specifically, Luke. Not Lucas. Not Lucaniel. Not Luke Isaiah. Maybe that one. Just Luke.

Luke Isaiah might be okay. I like just Luke too. Specifically Luke is a good nickname. Just Luke it. Dear God. Okay, sorry. I'm going to call you that from now on. Anyway, what happened to the hype around the 90-70x-T? I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 50-70 TI.

Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver. I mean, I think it's just like classic Nvidia bias, where just like, I mean, having, what is it, 95% market share is going to make people... Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you, like, made a bad choice or anything like that. It's just look at that.

Look at that. Wow. So if people are going to talk about cards, it's probably going to be the cards that they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card. It just says, wow, there's AMD radion TM graphics, and there's also AMD radion graphics.

I think these are on board. Ah, yeah. Yeah, I think these are both like, one of them is not trademarked. On board ones. So you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete GPU. It's a generation old,

and they're looking at less than 1% of the market. Yeah. Of Steam gamers. Then you've got to go a generation older and more mainstream. Newer mainstream. How far do we have to go to find a 90, something XT. Last Gen flagship at 0.5%.

Oh, fall into 0.27% of gamers. Whoopsie doodles. And like, it's actually very surprising. Vega 8. Hell yeah. It's above the 90s 17. Did I miss it? I don't think so.

Did I miss it? I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it. Yeah. So like, and it's like, just like a lot of things, it's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are just buying Nvidia and that kind of informs the pre-build market. A lot of the pre-build market is only really serving Nvidia GPUs because of that.

But then a very surprising for me and likely for you, because you seem to be in the community of people that's building their own computers, a massive amount of people buy pre-bills, like way more than I ever would have thought. it's a huge market actually even from brands that you might traditionally think of as DIY like hardcore like MSI apparently it's like I don't know if this is on the record or not well whatever I'm going with it what's Cliff going to do yell at me um MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator yeah and like I mean yeah it makes sense right it's not like they don't have

motherboards and GPUs so like what they could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or hear me out here you go it's just it's just obvious

it just works right it's kind of funny that the hard part it's RAM now but normies are scared to building the computers I think that's part of it I think an actually

really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother like I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my my time working at like Best Buy and stuff like that, where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now. And we were chatting.

He was talking about how he was going to, he was going to get a computer built by NCX. NSAX had a cool service where it wasn't, it was pre-built, but you could configure it yourself and then they'd build it for like 50 bucks or something. It was 50 bucks for a long time. In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder interface where we didn't even bother putting together

like recommended configs for you. Okay. Like 25 bucks or someone to build a computer and they did a pretty good job. And they tested it. It was warrantied if I remember correctly? They made sure everything worked and they gave you a one year warranty

on the system as a whole. Yeah. And they treated the sale like a parts sale. So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts if it was through a system integrator. So NCIX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts. Yeah.

And all the boxes and packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build. That just says PC build service or something like that. So what that means is two and a half years down the line when your NCIX PC warranty is up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard. Yeah. If you are so inclined. Yeah.

So like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that. route. I even knew people that like had gotten computers built by me and then were like, well, like you're busy. I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks. So I just did that. And it was like, okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going on. And they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks. And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them?

And we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate about and we just don't feel like dealing with. Like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car nine years ago and just didn't get around to fixing. it because I bought it as a kit from ARMA and so I didn't piece it together. I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is. And I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place. So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it. And I didn't even know exactly where all the sealing O rings were in the shocks.

Like I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together. So I didn't understand how it went together and that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years. Avon Fox says, never put your toys away broke and use this mantra for everything. This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me. Yeah, sometimes you don't really have that luxury. Peter pointed out like taxes. I actually think that's a really good,

but you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison of like, I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days. Just because I don't want to worry about it. Yeah. What if I do something wrong? Yeah.

I'd kind of really rather, it just didn't go wrong. Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost. It's the risk. were reward calculation, right? Cheaper not to pay them. Yeah. Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for Windows.

I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build the computer on the computer configurator without Windows. They did. And then they would just have a drive with Windows to test with and they would just take it out. And then they'd nuke the Windows install. Yeah. So like, no, actually, you didn't have to do that. NCX was kind of based in some ways.

Yeah. There were some ways that. But you know what? Look, I've made it very clear. I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business. I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada and New Egg doing the same. But there were some things about NCIX that were pretty cool.

I had no other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement part I needed. Like that was that was crazy and they were just they had a pretty yeah let's make it work kind of culture within the rigid confines of their policies. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's I think the best way that I could probably put it.

Yeah, so it's. I don't know. I understand. It is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on Nvidia and like, I'm pretty sure it's zero for Intel, which is why we keep talking about the graphics cards because we're trying to help them. Hey, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Topic prock. Is it time for our weekly Intel ARC580 MSRP check? We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen. It's supposed to. It's not really weekly anymore. It's biweekly. Thank you for that damn.

I got a call back in All right, what do we got here? An Azrock Challenger for 300 Steel Legend 309 Okay, we've got an Onix Lumie arc for 289 Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that?

We don't. No. We don't. 40 bucks over MSRP. Okay, all right, well, in the midst of the rampocalyps, we can no longer get an Ark B-5 for MSRP, but there is a silver lining.

There's an open box as rock challenger, final sale, non-refundable. That's for 259. So it's there. Open box product disclaimer. How scary is this thing? Oh, my God. Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things?

Previously open and unused. Inspector to union. It usually do not come with a warranty. however warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner. Ooh, that's a... Accessories may or may not be included can be pretty sketched for certain products. Like if it didn't come with the I.O. shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheased. Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that too.

With a GPU, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need. Oh, yeah, that's fair. Uh, 289. That's a downer. But I also can't go too hard at Onyx or at Intel, given the current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that cheap from anyone else. If Intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script, there's going to be a topic in here about how Crimson Desert didn't support Intel cards. We'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now. But if you

want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering it does now. get it optimized a little bit and then bundle it That'd be crazy To take it from like it didn't work at all To it's now bundled with the card I think would be really cool That'd be crazy

I'd love that And I think I think I think I'm in desert Steam Bill now Yes I was totally born in 1983

On January 1st Yeah it's very positive People seem to like it I haven't played it but 83% positive. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive.

Yeah. All right, cool. Meanwhile, a 5060 with only 8 gigs of V RAM is $370. So ARCB580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value. Yeah. If you buy one, I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget what it is. Is it just LMG.G.g slash new egg?

Floopplane chats got me. Thanks, floatplane chat. What did they say, though? I didn't see it. Yeah, it's LM.G. GG slash new egg. Nice. All right.

Should we jump right into a new topic? Yeah. Routers? Actually, I want to go with some good news. Can we do some good news? We can do some good news? Let's do some medium news? Nope.

I want to do good news. Wine 11. Yeah. Looks like an absolute flipping game changer. And the timing of this, right in the midst of Linux challenge while we're talking about, did you see that Reddit thread on the LTT subreddit this week? Someone's like, to do the Linux challenge alongside

minus Elijah and Elijah. Yeah, I saw that too. Not going back. Really cool. All right. For the first time, Wine 11, so Wine is short for, wine is not an emulator. It's the foundation of Proton

and running X86 games on Linux. Anywho, Wine 11 uses NTSync, a wine specific implementation of the NT Syncronization primitives, mutexes, semaphores, events, etc. That are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various

threads of modern, multi-threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated. Up until now, wine and by extension proton, have utilized E-Sync and F-Sink, which were clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuera at CodeWeavers, which had some issues, and it's like not her fault. But were a massive jump. But they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough. With NTYNC, Figuera abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver now, who going kernel baby,

that directly models the NT synchronization API and exposes a slash dev slash NTync device for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including, Bazite, but beginning with kernel 6.14, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes, for many changes, for many games, this is going to be a small or even completely insignificant change.

But for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games, the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here. That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second. Wow. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright, like Cod Black Ops 1, are now playable.

In other wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of Wow 64. So that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit. The subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit systems without needing multi-lib packages. That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come

together to make the experience of Windows Gaming on Linux the best it's ever been. And you can check out, Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developer's article that brought this to our attention in the various chats? Another thing that feels fantastic, wow, voice crack, that feels fantastic about this. I'm really excited about wine 11. Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards to timing, right?

There was the weird steam bug the first time. And then there was the like whatever, I don't know, I don't follow Pop OS, but that thing with the desktop environment that happened this time. Yeah, the cosmic thing. Yep. This is the first time, I think, that the timing has actually been really good. Yeah. Because this is how, okay, we're saying we're in like the middle of the Linux challenge. I think we're over 30 days.

Okay. Yeah. But like, I'm. I noticed you were still running it on your laptop. I saw that when we, uh, I mean, I'm sitting up for the show. I'm clearly, clearly still Linux pilled. Yeah. Right now.

Yeah. Um, I know at this point, I, I really, really, don't. don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop. I had to use Windows. I had to use Windows on someone else's system recently. And it was very icky. You rage out about it, like just about every week before we start the show on this machine. Yeah, yeah. Because like something will happen, like some AI thing will reinstall itself or recall is like back on here after Dan scrubbed recall off the system. It's like right now it's, it's running okay. I don't know how it's using 50% of its RAM. sane, but it's not like going crazy with the fans.

Like it was previously because of failing to install Windows updates. But like, it's just kind of, there's ads, there's little pop-ups all over the place. It's just kind of annoying. So at this point, I'm not having any problems with my laptop. And it's actually been more productive to have Linux installed. Like I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows. So there's like no way I'm going back on my laptop. I still have issues.

the Teams for Linux, like that weird web app thing, mostly works really great. My webcam is still not working, but that's a separate issue. Is it working in other applications? No. But Teams for Linux is just like, it doesn't allow me to click a link and then just open in my browser.

Like if I click a link in here, it just doesn't do anything. Oh, that's strange. I have not. Yeah. So there's like, there's definitely, But I mean, realistically, is it that much work to right-click copy link and then I can paste and go? It is an extra step, though. It was a few extra steps.

Yeah. But, you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpting billionth time. No, I don't want this to open an edge. No, I do not, in fact, want this to open an edge. So it's like not even necessarily that much less clicking. You're damned if you do. You're damned if you don't, right? So I might as well be damned in my own way.

Yeah. You know? Peter has a take here. Peter from Flooplane. It says my personal take is personalization is a red herring. A proper Linux system just works and there's no need to tinker. That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop. I have Linux Mint running on my laptop and I've had to do nothing.

Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with. Unproblematic. There's no like, are you sure you want to not save this to one? Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you? Yes, I'm sure!

Do you want to open this webpage and edge? There's just like none of that stuff. Would you like me to stay, would you like to stay signed in? Yes! For the 40 trillionth time. Yes, I would. Yeah, so there's none of that. I click the button. Don't ask me again every time.

And like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone like anything else. Like, I've done, I've done. Nothing. My desktop I've done more tinkering with, but yeah, my laptop I've done nothing. I'm very happy with it. Would you like to sign into just this application or system wide? Just this application. How many times do I have to tell you?

Every time, because they want it to be system one. Would you like to sign into MSPaint? No! Ever. Oh, dude. Dude. Oh, man. Sorry, I'm going off.

I'm going off now. Because. It's Linus' turn. I got an email. I got an email earlier this week from Swiftkey, okay? From Swift Key. And I'm going to show this to you because this killed my brain, okay? So first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are, they're cramming One Drive so far down my throat that it's going to come out my butt, okay?

From Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that Swift Key accounts will be retired as of the third. 31st of May 26. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience will be transitioning to standard Microsoft account sign-in for all users. Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make Swift Key better.

Sure. No, it isn't. Blah, blah, blah. You're typing data will be more securely stored in, you guessed it, One Drive. Okay, you'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get a thousand Microsoft

reward points, whatever those are. it simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough, I have a Microsoft account, so sure. Fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me. If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you? If you already use Microsoft to sign into Swiftkey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay, first of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account.

You emailed me. So you clearly know how I sign in. Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know. You tell me. I probably haven't signed into Swiftkey in like a year. That's just for starters. Hold on.

If you signed in with a different account, e.g., Google or Apple, you'll need to connect a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link below. Okay, fair enough. Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God, this works on mobile. That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop.

Here, I'm going to shut. Okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy. Yeah, I mean, it does, it is a mobile application, but it's an email. So like. So I opened it on my laptop. Yeah, yeah. One second. Okay.

Okay, this is crazy. Okay. I'm going to click it on here connect your Microsoft account now and it literally just dumps it just dumps me on the Swift Key homepage. Yeah. It doesn't

take me to the account. Hold on, hold on. I'm just going to use my Linux superpower super granular screen brightness here. Okay. It just dumped me on the Swift Key homepage. There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration. Nothing. There's a link to the Google Play Store, view supported languages. Luke,

Back me up on this. Oh, yeah, for sure. Back me up on this. Okay. Here's my, you're gonna, just so I can prove, no Tom Foolery, here's the same email. I'm clicking the same link. You watched me do it. I think I watched it the first time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the page. Yeah, yeah. Okay? Yeah, yeah. So, okay, I, okay, so, because I use Google to sign in. And so I, I went and I signed into my Swift Key account, also on my laptop, because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email.

There was nothing in there. about where the data was stored because I was pretty sure I used a Google account and there was just nothing in there. You probably would have. So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile. That's crazy.

MRO mutt says thanks for making me feel normal about this whole Swift Key thing. I went through the exact same thing. That's crazy. Why would you send me to the Why would you send me to just your home page if I open it on desktop or a laptop? You're Microsoft. You know about laptops.

All right. Okay. I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later because I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my dictionary. Swift key is a significant part of my stickiness on Android. Yeah. Because on iOS it sucks. and I've never actually verified this,

but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy around third-party apps and being able to monitor what you type, right? But for better or for worse, I've used Swift Key for like 10 years now and it has an extensive dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms.

And I care about not having to correct... Efficiency, yeah. You know, the same ducking... Sorry, I said ducking, so I didn't have to bleep it. You know, the same ducking thing. a million times. And so having a dictionary that really works is really important to me and makes me more productive. Yeah. So I would, I would really like to keep my Swift Key library. So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to fix that now. Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember.

Just Linux stuff in general. I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going. I realized, I think it was yesterday that I should ask like, oh, when is the Linux challenge over? when last time I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together about like when we were allowed to go back. And I thought it was interesting that there hasn't really been a lot of chatter. And with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's going to be going on for like a while longer. And I'm totally fine with that. I think the only thing drawing me back right now is there like an impending game launch or something?

Yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon. I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon 5. It's a great game. And Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th. But I genuinely, with the experience that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console.

Right. I'll dual boot, play Horizon when I'm done, just boot back into Linux. Do you think it'll work on Wine 11? No. I'm pretty anti-dule boot. I don't know if I can explain why. I don't like it either. It's like,

it feels like... Horizon is supportive on Linux? Really? Horizon 5 is gold, apparently. Really? I just looked it up on ProtonDB while you were talking about it. Wow. Yeah.

I didn't expect that. I mean, I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer. That was my guess. Is cheating a major issue in Forts the Horizon? I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single player game that I wanted to play. So like even if you just like can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me.

I do not care. Okay. Chat says it has a stupid amount of cheating. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm not too surprised. Yeah. Didn't, uh, Valve just ban a million accounts? Is that, I didn't see that in the dock.

I didn't see that this week. And million. Yeah, that's wild. They're all playing CS. Yeah, nearly a million cheaters banned in Counterstrike 2. 960,000 accounts like cheaters are just in everything You know what's so funny

It's crazy Is the first thing I was about to say When I read out that chat That yeah cheating is everywhere In Forts on Horizon 5 Was like Who would want to cheat in a racing game And then I was like

Okay right But like I could apply that exact same logic Who would want to cheat in a shooting game Who would want to cheat in a strategy game You know wouldn't that just defeat The entire purpose of playing the game And determining who's better at the game Right yeah

Same logic applies across the board, I suppose. It's not just, okay, so someone pointed out those accounts with AFK CS games to get weekly case drops. Yeah, I heard that was a thing. There's a video I saw where somebody joined a public match as a spectator. Yeah. And all the bots detected that someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay. And they just all disconnected at the same time. And it was like a massive percentage of the lobby, just all auto disconnected.

But I've also heard that like people in ranked games will just like open. openly on the mic ask each other if they're like cheating and if if like four out of five of the players are cheating they'll just vote kick the fifth one I don't know if it's like real it could have been staged and acted out but yeah it's like way too much um but yeah yeah the forzen horizon horizon five the single player campaign was amazing all the additional add-ons are really cool they collaborated with donut and there's like a donut media little like mini challenge thing in it which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah blah blah blah, blah, blah. It was awesome. So I'm looking forward to six. But I mean, if it has a gold rating,

maybe I'll just wait and then play it on Linux anyways. I don't need to play on release day. I don't care about that. And Ballard says real racers and real race cars are cheating too, you know, Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably illegal. Okay, that one I understand that. There's big money involved. Yeah, and that's like, as far as my understanding goes, it's part of the fun of F1 is watching the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year. That's like a bunch of people that I know that watch watch it because they find the technological engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else. So, I don't know. All right.

Why don't we jump into another topic here? Maybe we should do a short one here. Sure. This is just more of an FYI than anything else. Ubiquity has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including a path traversal vulnerable. or ability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the Unify network application, aka Unify Controller and Unify Express version 9.0.14 and earlier. See the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible. Very, very important because that's really bad.

It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unify stuff. Please, please, please, please, please. And the source here is ubiquity. here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they act on this. This is very, very important. Network infrastructure, not to be taken lightly as far as security goes.

I'm doing it right now. Hopefully you're like home stuff. Okay, good. I was like, this is, no, no, no, no. No, I don't do that anymore. No. Okay. On the subject.

I'm sorry. On the subject. Had to intervene there. On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America now. Okay, that's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off. An FCC policy update earlier this week

effectively bans the sale of consumer-grade routers that are not made in the U.S., which as far as we can tell, is pretty much all of them, except some percentage of Starlink routers. Unless they have already received FCC authorization. Which I think is going to be a lot of them. Which is all of them.

Okay, yeah, yeah. So this is kind of like the drone thing. Remember when they banned all non-US-made drones? Yeah. But then all the ones that are for sale now are fine? Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with China banning battery banks that aren't made in China. Is that the case? It's something like that.

Oh, no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese certification. Yeah, that's not made in China. That's separate. That's separate. But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China? Well, I mean, most battery banks are made in China. But like, say hypothetically.

CCS? Say hypothetic. No, it's triple C, I believe. Okay. Say hypothetically, we were to make a battery bank. You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or, you know, somewhere. Sure.

And our PCBs were made, you know, wherever and, you know, whatever, right? Stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could totally just do triple C certification. Nothing would prevent that. Does, is, are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification? No idea, but finding a certification house in China for battery banks is got to be easy. It's pretty simple.

They got to be all over the place. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Okay, there is a little bit more to talk through on this one. It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign-made appears to be anything physically manufactured outside the U.S., regardless of what country the company is based in. This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination, which states that vulnerabilities in foreign-made small and home-office routers represent unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import sale or use of any existing device models that the FCC. previously authorized.

All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS. Or DHS, I think that probably means I'm going to go with or. There. The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed time-bound plan for onshoreing manufacturing to the U.S. in statements to the verge both TP link and ASUS expressed confidence in the security of their respective supply chains and neither company gave any indication that they would move any manufacturing capacity to the US for consumer routers.

You want some real expensive routers? Yeah, I mean, is that our conversation, our discussion topic for this one? There's some like, I don't know how I'd find this. Serve the Home had a video on it. or was it serve the home? Serve the home was on Geerling's channel, I think. Um,

talking about a, like really cool looking, I'm pretty sure it was a router, but it was very expensive. Um, I mean, yeah, serve the homes talking about it,

it's probably expensive. Um, that's a circle. Things serve the home covers and things that are very expensive. Perfect circle. Completely overlapping. Yeah. I mean,

just a lot of like, commercial enterprise grade stuff. He does a great job. Well, he was on Gearling's channel, and Gearling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff. Gearling also sometimes covers some very expensive stuff. He does, and I think this is 600 bucks, and it's probably 600 bucks American. Like real dollars. A lot of dollars.

Yeah, I think it was this video from Jan 2. Are you planning to skip that out at some point? Thank you. I don't usually watch YouTube with ads. You're killing me. Where is it? It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there.

I love Patrick's shirt. Nice. I love that they're both just like solid color, white text. Nice. But yeah, it's a pretty cool looking little thing. This one. And I think this is made in the U.S. I think I've heard of this thing.

MonoRotor, specifically dev kit model. Yeah, I think, yeah, and I'm pretty sure it's made in the U.S. But it's, again, it's 600 U.S. dollars. Final Price of the Kit right here. I think I've heard of this. Sorry, what's it called? Not made in the U.S. Oh, it's made in the EU.

Okay. Well, then it doesn't solve the problem. But it's a cool video, and it's a cool little device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy? Bye, Sammy. Czech Republic. Oh, these guys reached out at me, out to me at some point.

Oh, well. Did I not reply to them? I think I meant to. Well. Oops. Wow, good for them. That's so cool. I remember watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing.

If it's the one that I'm thinking of, we raised $500,000 to manufacture our high end router. Yeah, yeah, this thing. That's it for sure. I recognize the name. Yeah, that's, that's super cool. I totally, I did not mean to ghost these guys. I must have just accidentally marked the email as well.

I wasn't trying to set you up for that. No, no, no. Yeah, no. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think everyone misses an email from time to time. Yeah, sure. But yeah, wow. Yeah, good for them. that's fantastic.

They're across the line now. Right? Well, it is, I mean, it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his, like his actual YouTube channel. Okay, Tomaz, right? And then what's this? Yeah, something like that. Oh, my God. I closed it.

I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Oh, good. Zaman. He has a recent video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We built a thousand routers and made zero. dollars? Yeah. Relatable. I don't know. Yeah. Right. I,

dude, and then there was the recent thing where Derbauer got completely f***ed over on some not copper. Yeah. It's so funny

because every time we make one of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make us screwdriver. Ask me why. You know, we took three years to make, or four years or however long it took to make the cables. Why is that?

People, there will inevitably be like a contingent of people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so fucking incompetent and blah, blah, blah. Dude, creating anything is so hard. And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from, from selling, like being a merchant, to reviewing and evaluating, to actually making, to being responsible for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery, the final quality of the delivered product. It's so much harder.

And it makes it, it's given me, I think, at times, a perspective that, people have found abrasive, where I'm, and it can come across, I think, a little bit boot ickery, where I'm like, yeah, but I get it. I see their side. I see their perspective. Because, I mean, here, let's bring up something really uncomfortable. Mod mat. Oh, you're publicly talking about it. Is the mod mat. Where is the mod mat? Where is it? Where is it, Linus? Where is it? I don't, I know nothing about it. Why is it doesn't exist?

What it, where it is, is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges of creating physical products. That's where it is right now. Right now, how do we get it out of there? It's releasing on April 1st. No, no, it isn't. It totally is. Sure. No, it's not.

April first joke is that it's a joke that it's still not out. Yeah. So. I also didn't say which year. Jesus. But yeah, cool little device. Yeah. Apparently not made in the States.

Yeah. So totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe go check out. I wish I luck. It's funny how a lot, people will assume that anything made in the West is made in the States. Like I saw, we had a video earlier this week about, oh, my. Gosh, it's not in the dock. Arm makes CPUs now.

Yeah. Yeah, we had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it because Arm, instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of prefabbed, you know, ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP guidance and kits. Core designs, what do they call them? CCS or something. Whatever. I forget what they call it, but basically these like kind of blocks of various. IPs that include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own

processor out of. Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling arm branded silicon in the, in the data center now, specifically for AI. To their credit, what they're after is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have AI, it being more efficient seems like not terrible. But anyway, where was it going with the... Right. I saw a bunch of comments that were like, oh, yeah, now we have like, you know,

America made, you know, an American CPU brand, we have America made CPUs and something, something, it's like, bro, like, acorn started in Europe. Like, what are you talking about? It's not American company. Like, what about Intel? And Qualcomm.

Okay, so hold on a second. This was something that I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right. IIRFTW says Oh wait, no, no, you're right Yeah, Arm hasn't made their own chips since the BBC Micro. So Arm got up on stage and said,

this is the first time we're making an arm chip. And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right because I thought that was literally like what you guys did the first, you know, time. And there's that famous story of how the arm chip was so efficient that they powered it off and just like there was enough power in the signal lines

or something that it would like stay powered on for a long time time or something and they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something. Whoa. Yeah, it's crazy, crazy efficient chip. But that was made by ACORN. That was before they became ARM, which happened, I think, like two or three years later or something like that.

I like the ACOR name. This is the first actual ARM CPU. Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video. Yeah. Yeah, it did okay. It did okay. I mean, and it's the video form of like a press release.

Like, I can't benchmark it. Um, but, true, this, uh, this has major, major implications for the tech industry. It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing arm stock drop during the keynote. And I was like, really? What? I don't understand this. Why is it dropping? This actually seems huge.

And then it popped. And then now we're, now we're back. What even our stock values anymore? I don't understand it. Everything's just based on whatever's more entertaining, I think. Ebalrid says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too? Really? So is this just like a high frequency machine trading thing that's just like the play?

You know, you... Stocks are based on vibes. Yeah, I get it. And not advice. Like, not advice, guys. This is not financial advice. but I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused

on its application for AI in the product announcement because when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it. And when you look at the implementations of arms cores that have already made their way, You can rent an arm instance from Amazon right now. Like you can go right now and you can get a Graviton instance and you can like use arm data center processors right the second.

And they don't have to be for AI. They can be for other things. And so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff. But I also understand why in the current climate with so much buildout happening around AI, why they focused on it.

It's just I wish they had, I wish they'd talked about, oh, and also, all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point in the future, we can do that too. Oh, disclosure, that video was sponsored by arm.

Our trip down was sponsored by arm, so take that for what it is, but I'm not sponsored here and they're not going to be watching this, so I'm, yeah, I'm saying whatever. Nice. Nice. Nice.

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Okay. I've got it on my screen. I'm ready. I did a last minute pivot to change my mind. We'll see if you predicted that far. Meta and Google found liable. Dang. Oh.

I was on that one first. Which one was your first one? one. No! No! Oh man. Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial. Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week.

Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents about the safety of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an L.A. jury found meta and YouTube. negligent for harming kids through addictive platform design. Awarding the plaintiff in the case, 3 million in damages. 70% of that from meta, 30% of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case,

so the first one, grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the Guardian, like the newspaper? Yeah. Okay, cool. To investigate investigative journalism, let's go.

To investigate the risks that children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, Internal documents and testimony from former employees show META repeatedly ignored warnings about child safety. Surprise, surprise. No one would have ever guessed. The New Mexico, oh, nope, sorry. Law enforcement also testified that META's crime reporting was deficient because META relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk reports that made investigations practically impossible. Surprise, surprise again.

During that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead, or sorry, Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that that harms to children were inevitable on their platform due to their massive user bases. Huh. Okay. Cool. The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with $75,000 violations, is substantial, but is less than one fifth of what the prosecutors initially. sought. Though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in May, where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see meta being forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome. Interesting. The LA case was a seven-week trial brought by a 20-year-old

woman. Okay. Sure. I think the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it. Okay. Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age. Sure. Her argument was that meta and YouTube deliberately designed their platforms with features like Infinite Scroll. It's kind of the primary one. Auto Play, which kind of ties into Infinite Scroll. I don't really know that many things in Infantly Scroll, but you have to press the play button. And push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content, which I actually personally

completely agree with, which is what allowed them to get around Section 230. I think any app that infinitely scrolls you should be looking at critically. Anyways, META's defense tied to argue her struggles. Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They pointed out, yeah. They pointed out... This is float plane.

Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your usage of the platform. And I think the end result... They don't upload that much, though, and it's not algorithmic. Yeah. I think the end result of scrutinizing that on full plane is, oh, it doesn't really actually do anything, which is fine. And then I think you can look at a platform like Instagram and be like, oh, wow,

this is very clearly designed to keep me going. I'm just teasing you. I'm just saying, no, I think you should scrutinize it, though. And I have had this thought before of like, oh, Floopplane does that. but in my case I think it's fine not infinite that's kind of true you do technically come to an end there will eventually be an end I think it's I think it's long enough that it could be put in the category still yeah and I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience you're out of the preload yeah it's yeah it's like the platform is

really not designed for that type of infinite scrolling like Twitter YouTube Instagram, etc., Facebook, etc. Are all designed to really like, that is what they're for and they're designed to keep you there and they're going to auto play everything and all that kind of stuff. Fulplane is really not like that, even though it can load a lot of time. I will defend this forever! Anyways, okay. Yeah, Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy didn't mention social media.

or name any apps. Imagine going after someone that way. Imagine someone saying, hey, your product damaged me. And you being like, yo, y'all broken because your family sucks and you were bullied. And our platform was just, we just took advantage of that. Couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy. How did the notes? Dude, I don't know.

Like, did she put forward? I mean, as part of discovery, I guess they could ask for something. like that. Can you get notes from your therapy? I don't know. That sounds crazy. That sounds nuts to me. I mean, I've never, I've never, look, there's a, I am not a litigious person. You know, if I'm ever, I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed to pass the limit, like, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do it. But I really don't want to. And I've managed to be in

this industry for this long without ending up in a courtroom. I'd like to keep it that way. Um, what, what, what, what was I going to say here? It was, uh, yeah, so I don't, so I don't know, like, how this process works. But from everything I've heard, it sucks. Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes. Wow. That's wild. That's super sketch. So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy. Uh, that's not what we're saying. Not advice. Here, I'm going to sit over here for a second. I tried. I freaking hated it. Um, but anyways. That's a story for another time, maybe not Wancho. Yeah, yeah. Jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff awarding her $3 million in damages, with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages,

which could significantly increase the payout. Yeah, $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist, but if you sort of look at the bigger picture here, there are over 3,000 similar lawsuits pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have filed against META, and that $3 million is to one person. The floodgates could be open here. That could be kind of fun.

Discussion question. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for 30 years. These two juries just rejected it. If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids. I think it could look a lot more like it used to look, where you friend people, and then you see whatever your friend actually posted.

So awesome. The internet being cool again would be so sick. Yeah, I'd be down. It would be so cool. I would, I'm a little older now. I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one.

Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would be an active user. And like, you can go on my Facebook, you can see that even when Facebook was, No, Luke, this is not cool. What? Kind of cool. What are you missing then?

Hold on, hold on. I'm going to find me. They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different. Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks, but I think these things are different. Where am I? I don't know.

I don't know how to find myself on Facebook. I literally don't know how to use Facebook. This is cute, though. I don't know. This is from the LTT channel. Nice. Don't talk to me or my son ever again. good job social media anyway the point is i i have like posted not at all but i'm if i was

actually posting to people who i actually am connected with and care about then i i'd probably use it just because i don't socially interact with those people in person all the time anymore and it's it's easy it's convenient it's just it's so it's so unusable now yeah that there's no temptation whatsoever beyond messenger the short form don't Opamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now. And it's also on Facebook. It's just like, ugh. Oh, it's especially on Facebook.

I had to go on there to message a family member very recently, jumped on Facebook on desktop and just like looked around for a sec and was just like, oh. It's so bad. And if you frequent communities like, am I the asshole? You'll see, you'll start to see the repurposes. and recirculation of like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists. And so there'll be a version of it

that you notice on Facebook where you know, he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then there was a thing with my dog. And like you've got these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find out what happens next. And it's all fake. Yeah.

Except when it isn't, but it seems to be all fake. Yeah, so gross. I don't know. Good news, though. The comments about the age verification for AppStores thing, I don't understand where you're coming from about these things being related because this whole thing is algorithms for kids. No, but, okay, this is...

But I think there are two things happening at the same time that have similar topics. And I also think that if we are, if we're talking about, this product being designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's keeping you engaged through intentional like dopamine spikes. It's not a far reach to go, okay, but then is it also designed to be harmful to adults? Yeah. And it's harmful to everyone. And so we could end up with a very good outcome here, you know, in much the same way

that, you know, marketing is restricted in many territories around products, like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol. He used to be for gambling. I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing, and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it. Let's just let it go rampant. Sorry, once I say,

a serious scaper is I think their name. It says this is walking the internet as we know it, meaning LTT forum, flow plane, etc. will be liable. Actually, neither of those that you named will be liable at all, based on the reading that I have here. Because we don't algorithmically serve content. Yeah, we don't do it at all. So I haven't personally read Section 230, but the notes that we have in the doc here say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids.

It's not the content itself that they're liable for because, yeah, Section 230, they didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every user-generated piece of content that's uploaded to their sites. But what they can be responsible for is curating it, algorithm. to generate a stimulus response chemical reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the conversation, not the content itself. So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that. And Sirius Skaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about this opening the door. It's sort of the next thing that they're saying here.

And you know what? Maybe. I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the slippery slope absolutely being a thing. Where I take issue with your argument, though, is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular ruling leads to repealing Section 230 or significantly revising it. I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's not realistic. It's just plain not realistic. Yeah, algorithmic suggestion is quite different from UGC.

It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern. I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path. Okay. Something's got to change.

I do think Siriuscaper might be a little bit, kind of barking down the wrong path a little bit, saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require ID laws, aka surveillance, is these giant tech companies. And this is the next step. No, no, no, no, no. They want ID laws and all of that. They want more personal information. They oppose this. They lost this case. This lawsuit. They lost it. This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now. So this is, we're not saying, yes, this is good because it benefits Facebook and meta and Google. That's not what happened. here. What happened is meta and Google lost in a way that has the potential to make the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive that it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people illegal, hopefully, or at least financially impractical. We should stop this topic, but I'll throw in one last thing. It says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said past COSA, which is a surveillance law. Yeah, but that's not

what the case was about. Right. They can say whatever they want. They could come out and say chicken wings are better than burgers. Um, or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy. Um, and it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news. I understand your point and I think it is a valid concern. Bigger battle mage is here. The arc Pro B-65 and B-70 were announced earlier this week, and we've got a couple of spec sheets here. One for the B-65 and one for the B-70. Let's go ahead and pull these up.

This is so funny. I'm on Intel Arc reading about Intel Arc. Yo, dog. I heard you like arc, so I put arc on your arc, so you can arc, will you arc? I don't think they call this arc anymore, But the joke is that Intel's product specifications website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this

for any product. Used to be called Intel Arc. Yeah. All right. So what do we got? What do we got? Microarchitecture, XC2, TSMN5. Oh man, you see what TSM said about?

Unless you're like a loyal long-term customer, you ain't getting no N3. So yeah, Intel probably wouldn't fall under that. So they're going to have to fab their own GPs going forward. It sounds like, I'd probably reason. too much into it, but whatever. So the 65 gets 20 XE cores, and the 70 gets 32. So this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B770.

But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card. The good part of the news here is that, hey, at least it's coming to light. So it does exist, which means maybe if the rampocalypse, you know, reasonably soon. We could get it someday or something. And it also means Intel has not abandoned

GPUs. Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging for me because we must not have a monopoly in this space.

So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units. All right. That's pretty cool. Vector engines. 160. Oh, wow. So the B70

is like a much, much beefier card. Oh yeah. It's a, $1,000. Higher clocked. She's a big boy. Yeah.

PCIE Gen 5 by 16 for both of them. And both of them, this is pretty cool. Have 256-bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR 6th. That 32 Gets is pretty nice. That is a fat amount of GDDR memory for under a $1,000 GPU. A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups. it's very clear what Intel is trying to do here. They are trying to get home lab people running ARC,

optimizing their AI crap for ARC so that longer term, their data center accelerators are going to have people familiar with how to use them. Seems pretty smart. I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in chat said is it GDR6, and I went to go confirm that it is. But I also think that... Should be.

It's really... You really just care about the capacity a lot. So I'm pretty sure. Okay. Okay. It's twofold. So... For the workloads that I suspect people are going to be using this for.

I want to add that caveat before you keep going. It's... Okay. So we covered this in a fair bit more detail in that video that... That we worked on with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. Yeah. So what was that?

That was a... H-100 card, I think it was. It was an H-100 and H-200. It was an older data center AI accelerator from Nvidia. And what we talked about was, okay,

like capacity and speed and sort of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot. Okay. And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the die.

Yeah. And from what I can remember, and this is one of those things where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it. And then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to go touch up on it again. But from what I can remember, a lot of it is down to training. You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to inference, when it comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as important. but the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able to fit the model

into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically. So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference, a little bit, but not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden you're swapping out to storage

and that's brutal. So yeah, GDDDR6, not going to be the end of the world and the fact that it's on a 256-bit bus is going to help. So total bandwidth that Intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think it was 660 gigabytes a second, 608 gigabytes a second,

which is not industry leading by any stretch of the imagination, but with this much memory, for what people are trying to do at home, right, where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale, it's going to be faster enough for just having that capacity that this could be very appealing for home labors. Yeah, yeah.

I want to take us on a weird aside for a second. I think it was in the pre-show. We were talking about the expense of live streaming. Was that in the pre-show? No, that was in the main show, I think. Was it? Either way. I realized, I wanted to do an updated count

because I saw that on YouTube weird, oh, this is an older... Oh, boy, where to go? There on YouTube, we have 8.9,000 now. So we've kind of like cooked a little bit. Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewership up. But I noticed something that was wrong the first time I came to the calculator, which was I totaled our viewership between YouTube and Twitch.

So I got a 10,800. But then I saw this and I remembered this average viewer watch duration 50%. Oh. But if I'm looking at the people currently watching, that is not how that would work. So if we round it down, because I know Wancho takes a little bit to grow its viewership and we just go to 10,000. We hit pretty close to peak after about the first.

I'm actually just looking at it right now. About an hour in, we're pretty close to peak. And if we change this to, so we go down to 10,000. So we shave off a decent amount of viewers. And let's say 100%. We can also do 90. Which one do you want to do? I wish we could do 75.

Yeah. Let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario because I also think you rounded down on how many people were watching. I did. I did. Yeah. So we'll round up on...

By like almost a thousand. That's crazy. Please tell me we're not spending that much. Right, right, right, because they're not a... Watching on float plane. We've got, uh... Around 10% of that. Sorry, it's probably me.

It's fun times. Every time we stream land show, really? Okay, so what Luke is trying to say is head on over to LTT store.com. Okay? Oh, sure. And send us a checkout message. Just go ahead and grab one of our new, flexible magnetic cable management arches.

A little wormboys. Yep. Or you can pick something up from our tax write-off sale. Open box commuter backpack. Oh. Buh. Oh. How do I get to the U.S. store?

Very bottom of the little. Yeah, I know. I just wish I could just alter the URL. Okay, well, they're still in the U.S. store. Well, anyway. Uh Whatever Shop around

Find something Send a merch message Every little bit helps What? Why not? You said merch message Oh shoot Bulls

Check out message Check out message Check out message Okay Okay Oh, that hurt. Yeah, it was an interesting strategy. Well, that we all remember.

Rubber band works too. There might be other ways to do that. I've tried all the other ways, Luke. Cat of Nine Dales. Let's do the Apple business thing. Apple unveils Apple Business, an all-in-one platform to completely replace and consolidate their current offerings.

It will unify device management, productivity tools, device management, and productivity tools within a single, interface. Apple business will feature built-in mobile device management or MDM using their new blueprint system to let admins reconfigured devices with specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic separation between personal and work data. Cool. Apart from IT features, like honestly, as someone who has done IT stuff,

get your personal stuff off of our things. I don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager. I don't want that. I actually specifically want that to not be there because I don't want the responsibility of that being even possible. So just keep it on your own stuff. Anyways, I went to rant over. Apart from IT features, Apple Business also adds customer engagement features, such as brand profiles,

customizable place cards and Apple Maps. Oh, neat. And Tap to Pay branding. Apple also announced for their U.S. and Canadian users later this summer that businesses will be able to, businesses maybe, will be able to create search results ads for Apple Maps and a suggested places interface.

I'm sure, I don't know. Out of all the things to make exclusive ads, isn't it? IMO. Yeah, that's a little odd. But anyways, the platform will be freely available starting April 14th in over 200 countries. This is incredible. This plus the MacBook Neo.

Brough. Apple is coming through your neck if you're a huge variety of different companies. If you are an educational, if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of shit books to educational institutions or in a corporate environment, Apple sees your pie and they're like, hmm, yes, yes, your pie and your pie and your pie. I'll have, mm, all the pie, I'll just have all of it. Because already you see so many MacBooks in corporate and in education.

And that was with sort of previous versions of a mishmash of this functionality. bringing it all together in one easier to manage package because that's what it ultimately comes down to is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage, and I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a competitive quote to like, you know, keep you accountable, keep you honest.

Once someone locks in, there's a lot of inertia there. But in spite of the inertia of, you know, Chromebooks and Windows, I don't think anybody's, thrilled with those platforms right now. No. And so for Apple to come in and say,

hey, we can take all of your problems and we can make them go away. Also the incredible annoyance of managing them. It's just free. With that apple magic, we put a little bit of Apple. We're going to spit shine that apple for you. Dude, this is like a game changer.

And I've talked extensively about this in the past. But whatever the youngans grow up using, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use when they get older. It's one of the reasons that the piracy of the Adobe suite was such a game changer for Adobe. And why, as far as I can tell, DaVinci Resolve is going to take over in the next five to ten years. Yeah, and not piracy in that case, but just free access to it. With hardware purchase.

At least I think it's still with hardware purchase. Do you still have to buy anything to get DaVinci? I don't think so. No, it's just free outright. Is that right, Dan? Yeah, you can. get a pro version. Right, okay, pro version.

But otherwise, DaVinci's are just freeware. These guys are such mad. And it's so good. Such mad lads. Where was I going with this? Right. But unlike a Chromebook

where there's a lot of friction around continuing to use a Chromebook forever because it's just, you know, app compatibility. And it's always, I think it will drive me crazy forever. If Google loses this Chromebook thing and I look back at it and I go, you guys were Linux you had an opportunity

to embrace the Linuxness of ChromeOS you decided not to yeah that will always that will be like that will be like a Microsoft phone level like Intel missing

the investment in well I don't know how the opening I think is going to turn out but like I'm going to say no I'm going to say Microsoft phone that will be like a Microsoft phone level colossal to me to look back on and go if this ChromeOS thing doesn't work out

the fact that you guys didn't just embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser I'll never get over it yeah what a weird decision this is this is crazy hold on when Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it

it's trivially easy to enable the Linux underlay and app get stuff like VLC and open office in ChromeOS via Linux trivially easy, but it should just, they should be promoting it, is what I'm saying. There's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing to it, like what Valve is doing. Google should have been doing what Valve is doing, like really making Chrome OS a Linux distro. The biggest push for Linux in recent history was the Steam Deck and still is the Steam Deck. Yeah.

Like, if you look on ProtonDB, tons of the comments are Steam Deck-based. Yeah, because there's so freaking many of them out there. Yeah. All right. Oh, right. You were going to say something about the Apple Platform or are we done? It probably didn't matter much.

What, the Apple Platform? I think it's really important. Oh, my God. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. Mac OS is Unix-based, which is interesting. I think as well, just like another competitor in that space, I think is actually really good. I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings.

I think they just kind of suck. I had a conversation recently about our setup because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money because we're on like just everything, which sucks. And the conversation was something about like basically, I don't know, email just sucks. everywhere because yeah yeah yeah we're trying to reduce that so like email just kind of sucks everywhere and the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere yeah so it's just like okay whatever and then you get to messaging and it's like okay well the messaging options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are dude i searched for the word patent in my gmail inbox the other day because um are

wonderful boss asked me to find out if I had ever corresponded on something to do with a patent with someone. And I searched for it. And I was like, why the fuck are these results out of order? And it turns out it defaulted to relevancy, which I decide what's relevant. I'm like, what are you talking about? I want, so I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. And all of a sudden, it come to something that from very recent. And I say, I realize it's not chronological. I'm like, sure. Sure. If you want to have like, here's the three or four that I think are the most relevant and surface them at the top, yeah, that's fine. But by the time I'm sorting, by the time I've scrolled infinitely, you know, through three pages of results or whatever, obviously, you didn't get it. So give it to me in chronological order, obviously. If I do a super vague search term, like flight. Yeah, how could, maybe just give me the most recent one, Brad? Oh, it never does, though. I'll get one from three years ago. It's crazy.

like, I don't know, flight San Francisco. And it would be like, ah, yes, I do understand that you have a flight to San Francisco in three days. But I'm going to give you your ticket from seven years ago. Hope you wanted that. It's just like, why? Bro, come on. So like, yeah, basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort of all junk. Nobody cares that much about chat because it's like, do I care enough about how much better Slack is to pay more for it compared to teams?

I don't know, maybe. Developers kind of do, but outside of that, maybe not so much. So most of it just kind of gets shrugged off. And the biggest problem we've ran into is like, wow, OneDrive is a fantastic piece of shit. And while Google Drive might be kind of neat Google Workspace bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive. Oh, dude, I was trying to, what was I trying to do the other day? Oh, I was trying to write an email. Um, hold on.

Let me see if I can find this. I believe if you, you can get it out now, but there was like a period of time where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their sense. No, it was, it was doing a bunch of like, like, kind of like a spell check or grammar check, like squiggle under the words in my email. And I, in 10 seconds. Been very aggressive. Didn't spend that much time. I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. And it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me.

And I'm like, no, it's an irate email. And it has an irate. tone intentionally. I was so annoyed. And I'd have to go and actually like type an email right now to get it to try to do it. Maybe I'll just, I'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in. But yeah, the biggest hurdle that we're running into is one, moving off of a chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible no matter where you go.

But there is a lot of like resetting up group chats and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time. so you're definitely going to lose some productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing. Okay, sounds good. We can figure that out. But the last one is just drive, trying to get out of Google Drive to something else is proving a little daunting if we do want to do that. Should we talk about that thing we set up locally, Dan?

It's not doing it right now, so I don't exactly know why. But this is funny. Have I told the story about the conversation I had with someone from Sony when I was over there recently where one of the things that I've started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my email so people know that it was written by a human. So I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out the blank still under NDA. My only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward. here's a tip yo to prove I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI so I've officially done it once now that's funny try own cloud we're trying a few different things the the primary one where we've set up locally right now is next cloud just to play around with that see how that goes out to us like all the time frequently okay yeah that is the one guess it worked because it was top of mind

Hey, hey, you know what they say? If you don't get a date the first 500 times, you should definitely ask again? 3,000 more. We have a lot of emails from them. That's not advice. Yeah, don't do that. That's not advice. That's literally harassment.

Not legal advice. Don't do that. But that's harassment. So we're looking into that. Sebastian posted in Floatplane chat and said, where is it, Google Drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google Drive is really good at, are honestly getting worse.

I think its search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult to use at this point. Yeah, like, why is it that... Okay, hold on. I might be getting this wrong because I know I've had issues sometimes, like, searching for a dock when I'm in Google Drive or, like, searching for a file when I'm in Google Docs.

Like, they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one platform or whether they're, like, separate platforms. And I can never quite remember the rules. of which things work across which other things. It's very weird. So I'm not going to get into anything specific right now. So one brought up Proton's platform.

I honestly didn't consider that one. Yeah. It's an interesting idea. They're improving both. The drives photos, docs, a bunch of stuff since launch. Yeah.

The primary thing that we need from their, like, drive is their collaborative stuff. Because I will never be able to pry Excel even out of the cold dead hands of many people at the office. It still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands. So there's going to be desktop apps required from Microsoft, literally just for Excel, for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents,

both in sheet form and document form. And form form. Oh, Google Forms is actually kind of goaded. Yeah, we seemed to be in a competition for years about can we find ways to buy Google forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google forms. And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very cool. Sorry, buy them in other ways? Yeah, just try to find an external company that basically just has Google forms and then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We did that like a lot. There was a lot of that going on.

Don't we just use Google Forms though? Oh, no. What? I don't understand what you're talking about right now. Does anyone else understand what he's talking about? I know like Jotform, someone in chat, guessed it. I think Jotform was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of things internally. But we do use Google Forms for a lot. Like we had some Q&A stuff from the last all hands. And we also pay for Jotform.

And we also pay for, I think, one or two other things that are basically just Google Forms. Why? Well, not as much anymore. Oh, I thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing. I was making a joke about how it seemed like it was. Yeah. Yeah. man there's been there's been a lot of stuff like that where someone has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use and it's like okay bro but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet yeah um i mean i was always just like can we just is there can we just do this in a spreadsheet with some macros it turns out google sheets is like really powerful no it's not excel don't shoot me but it is very powerful yeah it's funny too if you look at the like Microsoft office um let me try to find that

I was poking around Microsoft Office subscriptions the other day, and it's really kind of funky. You can just buy Excel, like non-subscription. Really? It's like kind of hard to find it. Buy Excel. That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, here we go.

Boink, 170 bucks. Oh, well, I would do that. You can just buy it for one PC or Mac. Turn data into useful insights. Can you imagine if it was your job to write the market? marketing blurb for Microsoft Excel. Hold on. What else they got here? Share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time.

Asterisk. Files must be shared from OneDrive. Compatible with Windows 11, Windows 10, or Mac OS. Wow. Thanks, Microsoft. Requirements. Additional system requirements. Internet access.

Microsoft account. Oh, you fckers. But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting, actually. I didn't realize you could actually just do that. So that was fascinating. They were making the support period for standalone apps super short compared to what it used to be to encourage Microsoft 365. That makes sense.

That's from pancrats. But even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into this. So we need. So yeah, you have plans with teams and your nice, cheap one is eight bucks. But this one, you can tell what they, you can tell they know about Excel. That was the most interesting thing for me to discover because this, the cheap one, the $8.10 one, only includes the web and mobile versions

of Excel. So you can't get the desktop version. And I was talking to, I think it was Terran. I was talking to Terran about how I think it's interesting that through their subscription models, they self-incentivize not making their web versions good. Which I find so funny. I know you love perverse incentives. Like it's something you find,

fascinating. It is very fast to me, I guess. But like, yeah, because the jump to get the desktop version is double. Double. It's literally double. And I noticed that if you go for, I think it's plans without teams. I'm going to have to find it. So we don't necessarily have to share yet. Oh, no, here it is. Just Microsoft 365. Oh, what the frick. Uh, just Microsoft 365 apps for business, which includes the desktop versions is more expensive. So you know, you know that they know internally that people really just need desktop Excel because it's so much better than everything else.

And they, there must have it. So I really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web version good because the web version is right next to that with more other features at like half the price. Yeah. Six bucks includes web of Excel and everything else. Microsoft is like the, the Facebook marketplace. equivalent of I know what I got.

Yeah. But only with Microsoft Excel. Everything else is just like, how can we try to make this Excel bouquet look more compelling than the other Excel bouquet? Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, that was wild to me.

Because I'm basically trying to figure out like, okay, there's a lot of like, what happens if we go down X or Y path? It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google? Do we go with some, some, some high. hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now. Do we use Apple numbers? Do we do something weird like that? And one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people. Yeah. It's not a crazy amount of the company, but it is, there are some people that must have it.

Some of the accounting people, some of the people who work in like logistics and planning and like, they just need more powerful sheets. Yeah. So sounds good. And it just turns out, yeah, I mean, might just be 1170 a month to get them word Excel PowerPoint notebook and they will open one of those halves. They might accidentally open word. Maybe. Yeah. Or PowerPoint.

Imagine using PowerPoint these days. I should really just use Google slides. Yeah. It's actually just easier. Yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying Google slides is better. But I'm saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98% of people who need to make slides where no one's really going to look at them, Google Slides is fine.

Yeah, Cephyulis says I use PowerPoint at work all the time. It's fine. It is fine. It is fine. It is definitely fine. We're just saying that for how closely anybody's going to look at a PowerPoint slide. Yeah. Okay.

Do you want to move on? Yeah. Crimson Desert finally gets support and soon optimization for Intel GPUs after initially locking out arc cards at launch. This was shocking to see how this played out in public. I don't normally see Intel just like publicly put someone on blast like that. And they really did. And I honestly, I'm here for it.

I respect it. I'm here for it. They're acting hungry. Yeah. Which is what I like about Intel's arc guys. Yeah. Like they're acting, they're acting hungry. They're acting scrappy.

Do we have the original like quote from them somewhere in here? Uh, yeah, it's right here. Over the past several years, we've reached out to Pearl Abyss many times to help test. validate and optimize support for Intel graphics, providing early hardware, drivers, and engineering resources across multiple generations of Intel GPUs. That is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb

after Perl Abyss was basically like, no, we can't, oh no, we can't. Yeah. You know, look into return policy. Can you imagine that? You put all the support on the table and someone literally says, if you have this product,

look into the return policy for our game because we are just a not interesting. interested. That sucks so much. That sucks so much. But I am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then. Yeah. Yeah.

Shout out. Shout out. Okay. Crimson Desert devs. Shout out Intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting things done for the sake of gamers. David Gautier, who prepared this topic, one of our writers, says, it's worth noting Intel is currently approaching 1% market share, which sounds really small,

until you consider that we think of AMD. as like, you know, the other player, you know? And AMD is at like approximately 7% according to the numbers that he's got, which I think, I thought it was actually lower than that right now. I was going to say, wherever these numbers are from are painting a better picture than was recently in my head.

So hopefully those numbers are accurate. I thought Nvidia was closer to 95 right now. I thought they were too, but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right. Yeah, that would be awesome. All right. What else we got? But yeah, I'm going to say again,

it would be a sick, you know, 180 maneuver if Intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with their GPUs. I think that would be awesome. One another good news Wanshow item? Yes. Just a reminder, guys, we are gearing up for good news wandshow month.

Next month, April is going to be all good news wandshows. If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted in a positive way, maybe we'll have a carve out for one bad news topic for one show. That's it. Maybe. Maybe. It's going to have to be important. Very important.

Critical. Yeah. critically important. Yeah. So Good News WAN show is coming next month. We're very excited for it. Also, some other WAN show news is we are going to be starting the WAN show transition quite soon.

We're moving from the LTT channel to the LMG Clips channel, which is soon to be rebranded as the WAN show. That is going to start on April 3, 2026, and for some period of time, it will stream to both channels simultaneously. that soft transition is going to continue for some number of months and in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN show channel currently the LMG Clips channel we will be sure to make multiple announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show

I had a fun idea because you know how people can be resistant to you know change you know how they can be And, you know, there's, there can be sort of, there's a friction to, you know, transition, you know, platform transition, even if it's within the same platform. What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms for a really long time? I'm talking like six months, but hear me out, every week the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second. There'd have to be, there'd have to be something.

Sorry, did I say YouTube stream? I meant the line of text channel stream. I knew what you meant. Yeah. So, so the LM clips stream on YouTube would be full, full bit rate. I think we'd have to have something explaining it. So, so, well, no, because the community will self-police at that point. It will make people go, hey, what's going on?

And then it will make people discuss it. And then they'll go, oh, okay. And then they can transition. over to the other one. Interesting. I wonder if I can lower the frame rate as well. I'd say that would be towards the very end. Like, we make it like 10 FPS.

One FPS Wancho would be really funny. Yeah, and so the whole... That might be too entertaining. The whole conversation of it is just going to be, what the WTF is going on here? Can't these guys run a live stream? And they'll be like, dude, they've been talking about this for six months. Go watch it over here.

Problem solved. and so we just we make it like we make it like a meme and then it can even be you know you can you'll even have people that you know are going to engage with this like very stubbornly like I'm going to hold out till the end I will literally refuse until the final day I will be that last person playing halo on Xbox 360 I will watch it 10 kilobits per second you know or whatever like I think I think that something like this would be a really good way to really ease the transition Just one oddly colored pixel. The only thing coming through.

Deep fried audio. Yeah. Yeah, we could have, we could go until we actually resemble, someone pointed out. The pixelated Linus and Luke. Hold on, I'm trying to find the image.

Oh, the old glitchy ones. Oh, actually, I didn't mean that. I meant the, like, in the intro. Oh. I thought you meant the, like, the ancient wanchos that are all corrupted on YouTube. Oh, well, okay. Well, that's,

Hold on. Huh? Wait, where are they? Yeah, I know these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until we actually look more like these guys than like these guys. You should just AI overlay us, turn us into Pixel Bros. Someone pointed out, apparently Doug Doug has a video on how people will be stubborn in these

situations or something. And like, yeah, absolutely. There's a ton of people that won't. I think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn. And also when we stop streaming on LTT, I think how the algorithm works in the like viewers like you watch this thing, therefore I will recommend it way. I think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel. And with the slow transition, we'll also give the algorithm a lot of time to learn who these overlapping audiences are.

Yeah. So I'm... Maybe it'll be all right. Maybe it won't. I kind of, because I don't want to mess with the audio. I think we should leave the audio alone. I think that's fair. But over time, we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to like, yeah, a couple of pixels kind of very...

barely even able to make out what you're looking at. And we go, hey, guys, you may have noticed over the last few months that the video quality on the LTT channel has been a little on the low side. This is the last WAN show here. We're moving over to the new WAN show channel. And this is actually really important because the WAN show is now officially co-owned by me and Luke 50%. And we have to have it on a separate channel, intellectual property, corporate. it ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For the float plane people, I believe the plan right now is that it's...

It'll just be on the LMG channels. Yeah. Yeah. I do think we wanted to talk to Sammy and get it split out into its own sub-channel. Yeah. But that does not mean it would be a new subscription. That would literally actually just, we should just do that anyways. Yeah.

Because it's for organizational reasons. Yeah. So it just looks like this. So on the side, you've got Linus Tech Tips and then you've got all your various sub-channels. so we would just add a WAN show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that way. Speaking of Float Plains, Sammy has some floatplane announcements

that he wants us to talk about. The Korean Tech Mall video was released very early on Float Plain. If you don't want to wait until Monday to see that, it is available right now. And this is really how I felt when I had to go shopping. Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall?

If you guys are regular Wand Show, years you'll know that I streamed from South Korea last week, two weeks ago? Times of blur. Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. And not last week, at least. I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way.

So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning to make any videos. And if I'm going to go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a tech mall. video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at myself. So it looks like, well, it looks like people are actually like in this video. Wasn't it, wasn't it a Vaughn's idea too? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like, you might as well just make a video because you're going to go shopping anyway. Um, it had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the whole thing myself. Just me and an iPhone. That's interesting. And a decent mic,

well, I didn't have a camera operator. I wasn't, I'm realizing like literally this format of you self-filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or something like that. Yeah. It's it's like this is almost weird to see. Yeah, I know right. Like this would usually be like some video you would just DM me. Like it's not it's not really like yeah. It's not a super common Linus angle on on on on the public video. It's a it's a really uh it's it's kind of a fun video because I I end up finding a lot of like really weird stuff. I'm excited for this one. Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned. Like the amount of just random old systems and e-waste and like, like, oh, there's a lot of

e-waste and just vast, empty hallways with just like garbage in them and stuff. It's a, it's kind of a weird video. Interesting. Yeah, and it's kind of a weird place. Anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys. Wow, look at that. Here's a second Dankpods video. Second collab with dank pods.

Boom. Go in public. His system got broken on his way to Whale Land because Wade apparently has never seen the classic Linus Tech Tips episode. How to Pack Your PC. What is this? Who's this guy? Who's this guy?

How to pack your PC? 40. There it is. Okay. Well, maybe we should have had a. the last clickbaity title. How to not smash your PC. Gaming rig packing and moving guide.

So he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have used. His computer got all bashed up. It was making rattling noises when I shook it to start the video. So I helped him fix it. And then my Linux curse struck. So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software by just being there. I heard about that. I didn't do anything.

I had so many witnesses. Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it. Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing. I broke his basite and I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything. I was just present.

Anyway, that's a pretty fun video. It's a pretty good one. We also have extras from that video. Finally, we made an alternatives to Discord video. giving you guys some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their their ID stuff that they're working on. I'm going to go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of, lots of early access right now on float plane. These all obviously come to YouTube. Oh, that's early access to. At some point. We're a little late on that.

Yeah, but it's a good video actually. I watched it today. Cool. Yeah, it's solid. I'm actually really, it was one that was done when I wasn't here. What? I just, Nick from the lab pointed out the other day that he really likes Wendell's thumbnails. Oh, man. There was another one recently. This one, Wendell's thumbnails are great.

That's what your thumbnails look like. When you actually don't give any f***ks how your video performs, and you are just doing it for the lulls. Just for the love of the game, man. I love it. I love it. I respect it so much. That's so based.

What a guy. Just kick you, Wendell. Oh, man. All right. Thank you for that. I can't tell what's going on right now. Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so.

I have the Wade video, the... Sorry, I'm like doing actual work right now, so I'm confused. Korean tech mall video. I released that one, the extras and the Discord. Did I get the mall? Yes, okay, I got the mall. I think I'm good. I think so.

Awesome. So three early access videos now available at LM.g.g.g. g.g slash FPWAN. Oh, do we have our own vanity URL? I guess. I guess this is part of like making sure that you get your commissions, Mr. 50% owner of WAN show. Yeah, no, that's totally true.

it's mostly only relevant if something fundamentally changes. Yeah. But we do have to lay the groundwork now. It's really important to do it now. Yeah. All right. You know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the Supreme Court in the U.S. has ruled that ISPs, internet service providers, are not liable for user piracy on their networks.

A lawsuit between record labels and U.S. ISP. Cox communications over an alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme Court ruling in Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox. Go Cox! They're a really, really big company. Okay, maybe. Well, in this case, in this specific case, I remember actually, I actually remember talking about this on Land Show, like half a decade ago. like this has been this has been gumming up the works for a long time oh here it's right in the notes the case began in 2018 yeah when record labels led by sony and warner said that cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices identifying repeat violators but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those accounts which is weird because usually they usually they send out just such a surge of cox argued that previous rulings against it would force i

to act as copyright police, which actually kind of a fair point. A 2019 jury in Virginia had found Cox liable and awarded a billion dollars in damages. A billion dollars in damages to my Cox? Not to my Cox. No. I won't stand for it.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals threw out the damages and part of the liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages. Cox then asked the Supreme Court to intervene. Yeah, it's hard to really be on the side. of big ISPs. I'm also wondering if this could be a bad thing,

because could this shift attention to users? Possibly. But then if the ISPs are not liable, then you can guarantee that they're not going to like do the work, care and cooperate any more than they like absolutely have to. Because at the end of the day, you don't want to be the ISP

that customers start talking about how you get people like sued for piracy, And the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in the early 2000s that the record labels gave up. Yeah. Yeah. Like there are, yeah, there are artists who even still today wear that that cone of shame for for going after individuals downloading their songs. Like I just, I don't, I don't see it happening. Then again, hey, the world keeps finding new.

ways to be even more dystopian. So no guarantees, but this does seem like overall for user privacy, a plus. And if you happen to be a pirate, then it also seems like a plus for that as well. Here's a downer. Qualcomm shut the door on Snapdragon X DSP headers open sourcing and Linux support hopes seem to be fading. Qualcomm has closed a GitHub issue requesting open source DSP headers for Snapdragon X chips with a blunt

no plans for that as of now. Linux can still boot on SnapdragonX laptops but without full DSP headers, full upstream support for things like audio sensors and NPU offloading remain out of reach. This is interesting move. Not in

with the current vibe. Bold move. Yeah. This may help explain why Tuxedo cancelled its Snapdragon X1 Elite Linux laptop after 18 months of development, and canonical still relies on patched packages in a Qualcomm-specific work-in-progress kernel. I also find it interesting because at their summit that they had,

which myself and Nick and Lucas attended, I would genuinely say the most prevalent topic of question that was at, like, the panel and when we're walking around people and stuff, was based around Linux. There was a lot of people in the audience that were very Linux-pilled. I think probably, and I think Qualcomm recognized this, a higher percentage than probably users, to be honest. Well, yeah, because when you're a brand new hardware with brand new,

let's face it, especially in the earlier days of Windows on Arm, it was very much a very, it was a really similar set of tradeoffs as running on Linux. Some of your software wouldn't work. You'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky workarounds. There were benefits to battery life. game-changing at the time. That was before Intel had some really competitive mobile offerings in terms of battery life and AMD, too, for that matter.

But so it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you'd have a kind of similar user archetype, someone who's willing to put up with some pain in order to try something new and or get some benefit that is very meaningful to them. and they publicly promised continued Linux upstreaming work back in 2024. And so I'm looking at this going like, guys, you're already niche. You already seem to be having a hard time making inroads. And I understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes are pretty low and kind of circle the wagons.

You know, focus on the biggest piece of the pie, the biggest prize. the biggest prize. Hear me out. Go completely the opposite direction. I think so. Be the king of how well you support open source platforms and lyrics. You will get a really hardcore, very vocal in a good way for you audience if you are able to accomplish that. And they tend to be evangelists.

They tend to be the kinds of people who will wait until something is, if we're being real, not really good. enough for mainstream and then they'll be like boy it's so good it's great you everyone should try it and it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just alienate them and then also really loud about that which is not good for you not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies right now you're you're you're doing neither and and i don't think this is going to work out great because i could see like i could see qualcomm like they have pretty compelling gaming performance for instance at least the the new generation is Are they out?

Are they rumored? I can't remember. Whatever. But their GPUs are pretty solid. And I could see Qualcomm being a legitimate contender in things like handheld Windows gaming machines. Sure. Why not? Definitely.

Why not? Honestly, with some of their mini PCs they're showing off and stuff, totally makes sense. But now you're going up against the Steam Deck. You know, if I'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld hardware today, would I want to be able to support all the various operating systems that, can run on it? Would I want to be able to run SteamOS? Would I want to be able to run Bazite? Would I want to be able to run?

What's the Windows game optimized mode called? They worked on with the Xbox team. Whatever, that thing. I'd want to be able to run all of them. I think shutting a door right now feels like completely failing to read the room. Yeah. Which makes sense.

Because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed? My God. You don't have to call me that on camera. Oh my! Gross. I love teasing him. All right.

Next topic. Oh, this is great. EU consumer protections strike again! You want to do this one? Sure. This follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting Switch 2 production by 33%. Hey, I see you pressing that button, Dan.

Oh, was it you? No, it was me. That was Dan. I don't even know what button. He matched the Narcissus button like 25 times. Yeah, so Nintendo's cutting Switch 2 production by 33% after a poor performance during the holiday season. Okay, that's bad news. Approximately a cut of 2 million units this year.

Wow, crazy! Wait, did you give the good news yet? No one predicted this at all. Hmm, interesting. If only there was more than two games for it. Wow. the good news for it? Yeah, it's in the title.

Oh, I thought you read the whole title. No, I didn't. EU Consumer Protection Strike again, a new Switch 2 revision with a removable battery. That's cool. To repeatedly release there? Oh, in the EU. Yeah.

And then maybe potentially the US and North America, maybe. Yeah, I mean, even if it didn't, I would imagine the gray market for Switch 2s with the removable battery would be like stonks. Big time. That'd be, that'd be sick.

And why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds great. I mean, it's not, it's not a phone, right? I can actually really understand it with a phone. This tightly integrated device, it literally has to fit in my pocket. I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and you take, you know, pictures of, you know, my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone. But something like a game console, I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner. I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery. This is so cool. Yeah, I think people don't care at all. Freaking love it. I... The Switch 2 is boring. I think I'm going to sell mine. Ooh.

It's boring. I played some Mario Kart World with my son on the plane on a recent trip. It was good. We played for a bit. It was all right. I hate that game.

It's... It's really sweaty. The best Mario Card experience. Because there's no way to win whatsoever. If you... There's no way to win. even be remotely competitive if you don't sweat super hard

which I find pretty not fun Mario Kart game bro yeah what are we doing like if you want to play why is it like under map mechanics if you want to play a Setto Korsa like play that you know like can Mario Kart

be Mario Kart and I understand that some people want to play Mario Kart super sweaty and I get that you can though but you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a completely different track that the other players don't know are there because they didn't do hours of research. Yeah.

Like Maricard 8 and Deluxe and whatever else, like the variance of it, you could absolutely be super sweaty, but the gap between you and everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Marriqart World. And in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun. Decently heavily incentivizing drifting,

more than World does. pretty in line with eight, in my opinion, is a great thing for the game, because everyone can drift. It's very simple. But getting it so that the lines are really perfect and stuff is a skill gap, and it's really hard, and it's rewarding, but it's not, like, game-breakingly rewarding. Yeah, like, I just, like, there was one that I was in first, and my son was in, like, sixth, and he just, like, took a shortcut I didn't know about, and won. and it's like, I'm not, I'm not, like, mad about it because it's just Mario Kart. Yeah. But that's also the, that's also the other thing, though, is like, it's just Mario Kart.

Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to have? There's always been shortcuts to a certain degree. But they were small. They were small. And, and they could be. Maybe you could gain a position. And they could be very difficult to execute.

Often in a really brutal way. Yes. Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of cases.

Yeah. Or the shortcuts are kind of everywhere, and you can just, you know, like blast across a corner with a mushroom instead of, you know, going through the, like, going over grass or whatever. Or they're pretty obvious. Yeah. Maybe you do it wrong on, like, the first lap, but then you know from then on and it's pretty easy. Stuff where the track just like splits into two and half of the AIs are going left and half of them are going right and you just like don't know which way you're supposed to go.

It's just, that's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding. And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart World. But if the Switch sales are anything to go by, a lot of people also just like kind of aren't. Bonanza's supposed to be really good. I haven't played it. I feel like I'll probably like play that and then sell it. Yeah, I could see that.

I could see that. I mean. Emma's super, super into Donkey Kong. So I bought Bonanza for like her to play on the Switch. and then the house stuff happened. So neither of us have played it. Nice. But we'll probably play through that.

And then, yeah, there's nothing else pulling me towards the switch to. That feels worth it for the device cost, if that makes sense. Yeah. We've got some pretty good news about graphene OS, but let's get through the rest of our sponsors real quick here first.

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And they got lots of stuff. Is this new? It never came up on my. evaluation? No, it's not new, but it's been... They don't have a chat. It's been expanding very aggressively. Make a chat. If that makes us, we can use Slack, I think.

I don't want to pay for Slack. Slack is a little bit less expensive than I thought. I don't want a little bit less expensive. We're like... Well, no, I don't want free either. I mean, there are potentially free options we've been looking into. Oh, really? Yeah, there's like...

You get what you're paid for. There is, yeah. And we have a really weird team structure. Self-host Mattermost is being getting really weird. You should look into that. We have such a weird team structure. Like for a 100-person company, we do so much different stuff. It's crazy.

Like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits. And everyone just is moving in one direction, like making drill bits. Like I, we have apparel and we have like engineered goods and we have like engineered goods. have a video platform and we have flipping an events business and production company and just procurement is it makes us so weird like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain right because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video well because for us unless we have the thing we can't make a video about it and we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the, you know.

Like an AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade. Yeah, even more. And then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter, which also no one does. Yeah. It's crazy. Ironically, Teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of the different channels and things. Yeah, you can, no. And we can do that in lots of platforms.

Yeah, but on Slack we can't dictate the order. Yeah, but you can give people packages and stuff like that. There's ways to make it better. I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them. That's also like, do we need that? Yeah. Can we just figure out something else?

It's never been a problem. To save $800 billion. Well, it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to teams. Oh, no, I mean like something self-hosted or like one of the other ones. If Discord had better user management, we could use Discord. But it's like kind of neat. Mech. Kind of meh.

Mech. Sorry. A particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them to send to me. And it's of them driving around in, you know those really rugged cardboard boxes that you can get for free at Costco?

Yeah. They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're like drive scooting around on it on the floor. And he's like kicking the thing so that it like goes for a little bit. And I was just like, why do we buy them expensive toys?

It's great. Yeah, I love to see kids using imagination, man. It's, it's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this, I forget what it's called, but it's this animation platform on the iPad that you draw every frame. And she made this little,

she was made a couple little short, things that one of them is cats catching mice and then at the end of it her kind of punchline is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice and the mice go on to I don't know she's an interesting child um I mean every child's an interesting child she's really into cats um and then that's why she chose cat as her stage name like she's just like she's very into cats like we were we were in Korea recently we went all the way around the world and what does she want to do, she wants to go to a cat cafe. Literally, we have cat at home.

Many. We have many cat at home. Anyway, she made another one that's like, like this dragon thing that like goes and it does a thing. And I don't know, it's pretty cool. And as far as I'm concerned, we have carve out in our scream time rules for if you are making something. Sure.

So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count. if you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your with your phone or whatever that doesn't count and it's really it's really cool google family link actually has some some wonderful uh tools for carving out particular apps particular times um so that you can say okay yeah you get like 45 minutes of general use this particular app is limited to like 15 minutes and these apps you can use anytime you want as much as you want um Um, really awesome. So like, something like, uh, I have Kindle Unlimited. So, uh, they're allowed to read as much as they want on the Kindle. I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page. At that age, all I care about is they're reading.

Um, so you can, you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. Uh, Graphene OS. Yeah. Has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect age data at setup. Base.

They have said they will never require. personal information, ID, or an account. Base. In their Twitter statement, they said, if Graphene OS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it. Base. The statement was prompted by Brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17th, with carries fines of up to $9.5 million per violation.

California's similar law takes effect January 2027. This stance creates a real problem for Graphene OS's new Motorola partnership, which was announced at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of Graphene OS phones geographically.

Linus comment. I hadn't seen that until now. Based. I genuinely didn't read that. I don't think we need to get further into, like, what are these laws? Are they supposedly about protecting kids? What are they actually for?

collecting data. Let's move on to something that's more exciting. Maybe you'll have to go on to a road trip outside of California to buy your phone. Like Samsung, saying that AirDrop support is enabled by default, after all, on Galaxy phones. They're rolling it out to Galaxy S-26 devices via a one UI8.5 update, letting users share files directly with iPhones, iPads, and Macs through QuickShare. No third-party apps needed. The feature is enabled by default through Samsung's, though Samsung's own promotional video initially showed it is off, causing some confusion. before the company clarified.

Google figured out how to make this work without Apple's involvement when it launched on Pixel 10 last year, and Samsung is now the second Android OAM to get it, with no word yet on when other Galaxy devices will follow. Our discussion question is, now that Airdrop works both ways, and green message bubbles are no longer the social albatross that they once were, are there any major friction points that will remain? I'd say FaceTime would be a big one. status?

Yeah. I think people still think you're weird. That's so funky, because, like, I don't want this to come across the wrong way because I don't care, but, like, my Android costs more than your iPhone. Why do you think your iPhone is a status symbol? I don't know.

Okay, I'm just trying to... I don't get it. I'm just trying to understand it. I have an old crappy phone at this point. I don't care. I never cared. I think it's such a silly thing I mean I think

caring about like oh they have a old car therefore poor therefore bad is stupid let alone phones like I think the whole thing is just dumb so I'm the wrong person to consult on this I will never understand oh you didn't waste your money on like some device that's just going to basically be useless

in like three to five years? Oh, okay, cool. All right. My car is 60 this year, says gas racing in float plane chat. Sick. That's pretty cool. There's definitely a,

you know, this kind of thing. Yeah, they become expensive again after they get out. What? Yeah, no one in float plane chat gets it or cares. Yeah, which, I mean, makes sense.

But iPhone users. Plauda says most people I know with nicer cars are broke A-F. Yeah, this is kind of my point. Yeah. I got to say, I do find, like, the car situation a little confusing. Like, I, um, people in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than I ever have. It's so weird. I don't get it at all.

You know how long I drove the Super Civic. Oh yeah. And then you know how long I drove the Volt. Yeah. You literally know the finances of the company. I've driven all of your cars. Really? I never put that together until you just listed it that out.

But did you own a car before the Super Civic? You could hand me down? I did. Yeah, I had a Volkswagen Jetta. Never mind. Yeah, you never drove that one. Because you had a, you also had a golf. Yeah, yeah, that was Yvonne's before we brought the minivan. Have you ever driven our minivan?

Okay, no. Okay, he missed the minivan. I did drive the golf. I think you're still over 50%. Yeah. But you've never ridden my bike. No. At least not once.

I'll let you ride b-h if you want, though. The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy. That'd be kind of crazy because you're up higher too. Yeah. I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis in Taipei. Yeah, that was scary. That was a little nuts. That was pretty scary.

That was a little wild. So. Luke's lived in all of Linus's houses too. had your issues recently to let you come live with us and he refused he wouldn't he didn't want that Pokemon I stayed at my parents uh so I'd be down here you'd be up here I mean I'd give it a shot even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger I think he was probably about 10 when when I was riding with him on the back way a lot less than you uh-huh I don't know

if I could balance that bike with you on it. Yeah, you may have to like three exit. You'd be up so high, and your legs are not really that long that you would not be able to put your foot down. Yeah. Until we were quite, quite horizontal. And also, this is really hot if it was operating. So that could be really dangerous.

Is there foot placements? Yeah, the pegs are... It's a little too pixel-y, but yeah, I can imagine... Yeah. Yeah, so you put these down and then you're pegging. it would look hilarious oh it would look so ridiculous you would look like you'd look like

donkey Kong and market Mario cart on my bike like sitting on the back of it like that yeah ridiculous yeah um uh next tcl has been banned from calling some of its TVs

Q LED due to a lack of dots that is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their TVs. They also found, so this is a Munich court, they also found that this meant the TVs did not have the color performance that is normally associated with quantum dot or QLED technology. This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung, where they commissioned testing of TCL displays

and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing. TCL and Tysense are also facing class action lawsuits in the U.S. over the marketing of QLED TVs. Yeah, I would, I actually support Samsung's efforts here. It's kind of based. I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and showed some of the work that they do, not to reverse engineer their competitors' products, but to evaluate their competitors' products. So the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the performance of their competitors' products so they know what they're up against. and we'll have a video on this pretty soon,

but there were some shocking revelations that unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the TV and watch it operate and get scopes on it and really know what it's doing, you would never know. And there's much like you see in phone benchmarking, or much like we've seen over the years in phone benchmarking,

there's a lot of cheating that can be done when TVs are detecting particular test patterns or scenes. And it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating, but even notice it, because it's a feature, not a bug, that every TV these days has an AI processor in it that is analyzing everything on the screen. So they really do know everything they're displaying, and they can tune the image and they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly.

Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that like boosting their brightness during test patterns if I recall correctly that was on what the S95B let me know in chat if anyone remembers I'm pretty sure that was a thing but I don't want to say that and be wrong come on anyone was that Samsung we could talk about this

this cute little 14 year old think pad this was fun that got upgraded for 25 bucks no one no one still no one yeah a YouTuber named onion boots set out to make a near perfect think pad since the peeling energy star sticker

was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece the near perfect think pads general specs are a third gen Intel core i5 2230m or an i73520m isn't this a specific model oh okay uh 16 gigs of dDR3

and a 12.5 inch LED backlit TN panel at 1366 by 768 Rens. Ooh, that display is a yikes. The display is kind of the biggest problem here. It's a decent amount of memory, actually. Onion Boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an iPS-LG panel. It's from the same year and has the same resolution. A little unfortunate,

but the jump from TN to IPS is pretty sweet. Onion Boots simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering. Yeah. It's only 25 bucks. Anyway, I just thought it was cool. Hey, don't forget. Pretty legit. Older laptops.

Sometimes you can improve your display, throw an SSD in it. They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint. My discussion question here, though, is actually kind of unrelated. Can we stop doing this? Tom's hardware?

Oh, yeah. Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name. Okay, yeah, it's here. And you do eventually. get into it. One intrepid YouTuber. Uh-huh, uh-huh, okay. Where do we get? The YouTuber Onion Boots, like, how far below the fold are we here? Um, how would you like it? If instead of saying, the article that brought this to my attention was Tom's hardware, I said,

traditional written media site reports that a YouTuber has upgraded their 14-year-old thinkpad. Can we not. We all have names. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Oh, I've watched Onion Boots before. I was going to say, I feel like I recognize this channel, but yeah, there's one video that went freaking crazy. Maybe it would be pretty good for their channel if everyone who reported on the cool work that they're doing maybe named them in the headline. That would be pretty cool. It is a super cool video though. Like if you think the laptop video is like neat but isn't going to draw you in, Onion Boots has a video called a web revival. The internet didn't die.

You're just not on it. And this video is awesome. It's really cool. So maybe check it out. It talks about like websites like this that is his that are up right now, which like feel like older website. You can see the links section. It talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other.

And it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the internet if you go to these different sites. So check that video. It's cool. He references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out. And it's, yeah, it's actually just genuinely awesome video. Can you play Mind Sweeper in the background of that site? I don't know. Is that what I'm looking at here? Hold on.

Hold on just a gosh darn minute here. Oh my God. Oh. Are you kidding me right now? So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well. And I'm clearly not playing like with you. So it's local. Well, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's minesweeper. That's that's a that's a that's a mind sweeper if I've ever seen one Um Pet Something I have always Name your egg Egg hatching in 21 seconds

This feels very neo pets But yeah there's a bunch of Um Very very cool Very cool video And it links to other people's sites Oh whoops Oh crap

I clicked the wrong side of my track pad Don't play mind Don't play mind sweeper with a track pad Uh huh Yeah, anyways. Cool. Valve has finally detailed Steam Machine's verified program. At GDC 2026, Valve confirms that games need to set stable 1080p 30 FPS in order to earn the Steam Machine verified badge.

So the same performance bar as Steam Deck verified, just at a higher resolution. Any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies, and the Steam Machine is confirmed to have six times the performance of the deck. This 30 FPS floor is just the minimum for the badge. Valve has previously said that most Steam titles can hit 4K60 FPS on the hardware, as long as you enable FSR upscaling. Our discussion question, oh, it's an interesting one, actually. Sony and Microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do at launch. I mean, sort of.

Many games do have a performance or quality toggle now, but our discussion question goes on to ask. Is Valve's, it depends on the game approach, enough for people who want the simplicity of just plugging something into their TV and pressing play. So don't know that Sony and Microsoft's ones are always necessarily fully true. No, but they definitely simplified the message. Yeah. And you mostly understand what you're getting.

I mean, Sony had that whole debacle where they had 8KL over the packaging for the PS5 and then just kind of quietly removed it. It seems like it wasn't a problem. I understand the argument and I think it's very very much. I think the audience for Steam stuff is a little bit different. I think so too. I also think that the way that they're positioning this by saying like, pretty much everything's going to be fine. I think we'll kind of whisk that away a little bit.

And I suspect there'll be an understanding that like at launch and Xbox is going to play a certain amount of games. And at launch, the Steam machine is going to play damn near freaking everything. And you're going to have to understand that there's going to be some scale there. I'm going to come out and say most people don't care. Yeah. And like, but really actually don't care. And the people who do probably know better than to buy a steam machine

and expect to run at, you know, 4K 120 FPS. Okay. So you can run Starzzen on Linux. So if you can play games like that... I mean, according to AI, you did the thing. I found myself doing the thing sometimes, too. I saw this. Okay, all right.

Okay, good. But, uh... Checking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I do the thing, Luke. I try to resist. I do as well. I saw that, I saw that Reddit thread where it says I, I run stars as it on my Linux box.

I use Arch by the way. I have no issues whatsoever. I saw that you can see the... I still didn't click through. Yep. But I saw this. Yep. Um, but I, yeah, I try to resist. Hey, Reddit wants your click.

Make sure to support Reddit. I did click on you. Small up and coming platforms like Reddit need your help. Um, I was going to say, Yeah, but if like, you know, if you're able to run games like that, like, damn, how are they supposed to verify stuff? Yeah. What does run starrison mean? So like, you don't run stars.

Whatever. I think their explanation is pretty good. I totally understand the discussion question. I think it's a fair thing to point out. It isn't as clear and easy as the console ones. But I kind of prefer this because it feels a lot more legit. And I hope that people read it properly. Yeah.

Our last big topic here, Anthropics Claude can now, I'm no, I'm sticking with my pronunciation, cloud. Cloud, oh, I see. Can now control your computer. Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for Cloud Pro and MacS on MacOS, letting Cloud open apps, navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets, and handle multi-step tasks on your computer. It pairs with dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign tasks to cloud from your phone and have it execute them on your desktop.

Anthropic warns, the feature is early, can still make mistakes, and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for now. They also say, cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps. Linus comment, this is, yeah, when I posted the news in the news feed, what could go wrong? Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let co-pilot do stuff on your computer, which I've talked about

sort of defeats the purpose of even like having an AI assistant on my computer. If it can't do anything, then what's the point of it? But also, that's totally fine. Well, it looks like Anthropic has kind of gone, oh yeah, what is the point of an AI assistant on your computer if it can't just like completely do stuff for you? And now we get this. This was the wrong answer.

But I guess we have it now. Now what? So I was just reading a very confusing comment. I don't know. There's been multiple things that have been able to do this already. I think by adding it to Claude Pro and Max, you're bringing it to more mainstream people, which is going to be freaking spicy.

I do think it's really interesting that the thing that Microsoft was pushing is going to happen on Mac from someone else before it will happen on Windows with co-pilot. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Just Windows doing, Microsoft doing current era Microsoft things, I guess. Yeah, interesting. Kits Lane. We'll see where it goes.

My AI assistant cannot stop ordering candles. Help. I had somebody invite their AI assistant to a Discord call that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in the Discord. call and then told it to leave the Discord call at it disconnected. It's a weird world. People living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now. It's, yeah, it's interesting.

I was looking into like, I really want to have a local setup going. And I was looking into building one and just ram. Holy God. You can borrow mine. It's like. He wants the experience of setting it up. He doesn't actually want to use it. I feel called out as well.

Like that's the whole thing. That's like my whole life. That's why we like, that's why we get each other. Because I'm the kind of person who loves building gaming PCs but doesn't actually game that much. You know? All right.

I see you. Yeah. I didn't know Luke felt like that too. I do want to use it, but I'm not going to end up using it as much. You're not going to use it. it enough to like justify it. Hey, have you tried your big

screen beyond yet? No. Yeah, have you? But I looked into setting it up because the room that okay, so the computers are in a different room now. So where the base stations were set up is not where the computers are anymore. Um, so I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that.

He's going to do it eventually. The new, yeah, yeah. He's going to do it. The new room that the computers are set up in, there is less space. He's going to do it. So I've been trying to figure out basically is it worth it to get another pair of base stations basically and have base stations in there in the smaller room that I can use like at my desk with my computer base stations more like based stations what a solution I love it or should I just put them up where they were and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room long range tether risky yeah

and I don't want to have a separate box in that other room. Yeah. That sucks. Yeah, that's ram expensive. Yeah. Just like, as far as I can tell, everyone else, I'd really rather not build the computer right now.

So it's like, okay. But yeah, the amount of available space in the room that my computer's in now is kind of rough. So it's like, uh, okay. And another annoying thing. We asked them like not to seal over. the holes for the screws where the base stations were. And they left one of them just fine,

but they totally, like, sealed over the other one. So now you'll have to put a hole in your wall. Yeah, two of them. Two holes. I think it's two. Pretty sure it's two. Two holes. Do they make a half, though?

Um, Bernardo. A super long cable. That's what we were just saying. Bernardo Baruch, I'm fine. This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction. Um, I just, I would be a,

I know, brutal spot. Oh my God. I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing and I I slid on my elbow. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. Don't do it at all, but especially not there. I mean, you might not do it again.

Not medical advice. Yeah, that's true. All right, let's jump, uh, let's jump into after dark. Are we at after dark time? I think so. Let's do this thing. See, it's the common curse. You said it was.

going to be such an incredibly long show. And now we're at After Dark before we were last time. That's how it works. Oh, yeah. How'd that happen? The show's going to be really, really short this week. And then it's a million years long. Every time you complain that there's no topics, it's a five-hour show. And every time there's too many topics, it's really fast. I wonder if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think maybe, because you're trying to correct for, yeah.

We're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics. How many years have you guys been doing this? At least one. Factually correct. All right, let's see what we have for you today. Hey, tall, tall and short. I hope it's a good news, Wancho. You were correct, it's pretty nice.

I'm trying to find a good recommendation for a CPU upgrade for my friend, still on AM4, because 5,800 X3Ds are gone, are the XT CPUs worth upgrading? In my opinion, no, not really. Um, oh, yeah, that's a,

that's a tough one, because on the one hand, an AM4 chip is still good enough to game. Like you, you're not giving up much as soon as you're up at like 1440p, unless you have like a god tier GPU. So, you know,

the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience. Um, the bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point, their options are kind of limited without going for a full new platform which i would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on dDR5 yeah that is one of this is a little off topic but that is one of the things i was looking into is like what is the most cranked processor can get that's still dDR4 because the price saving is yeah i was looking 5950x but i have not done very much looking into this

I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money. How much are they? On an old platform. So 5950X, you're spending $336. And the bad news about that is you're not really getting much out of the other eight cores from a gaming standpoint. Oh, yeah. See, in my perspective, I'm not gaming. Right.

Yeah. So there you go. I mean, like, this is, like, it's okay. But, like, by the time I'm spending $300. Like, um, I wonder if these went up. because of the whole RAM thing. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah.

Yeah, it's been a thing. Yeah. Hold on. Intel, what are the bloody, what are the bloody new ones called? I know there's, I think it was Asrock or something, did that like, oh, it's DDR5 and DDR4 on the same motherboard thing. I wish they would just have the, I don't know, the gonis to just, it's just DDR4. Whatever. Modern CPU, four slots, DDR4.

Go for it. 12,700K is what Pankrats is recommending. Oh, 700K. Yeah That's probably Well, Ooh, that's actually

Oh, that's a new price Hold on Let me find it On like eBay or something Where the bloody hell Are the core ultras The new ones? Oh yeah,

Those are still They're kind of Okay Well expensively So by the time You're spending That kind of money This is a much

Faster chip And this guy This guy is actually like kind of stellar for 220 bucks. Those plus chips are pretty wicked. I wish building computers was like a thing that people were doing right now because it was so sad seeing that video like

not just get like 2 million views because everyone's so hyped on the new processors. Yeah, like that, dude, the Core Ultra 5250K plus, awful name. Pretty exciting chip. Yeah. And just no one can afford RAM.

Yeah. But by the time, I've saved $100 compared to that $5950x, right? Because I'm getting 18 cores. Yeah, not all of them are performance cores or whatever, but I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores. Like, let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5. Remember, I just saved $100.

Yeah. So, yeah, it's $220 for DDR5, but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money. And now all of a sudden I'm, okay, now I'm getting like a whole platform upgrade. I'm moving to PCA Gen 5. I just, by design it feels like, AMD, by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform,

is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform is having that upgrade path. And in some ways, it's not AMD's fault because they had no way of knowing that the secondhand market for these X3D chips was going to go absolutely bazonker. Yeah. But on the other hand, they, like, totally probably could make X3D chips,

and then AM4 users who didn't go X3D earlier would have an upgrade path. But it's, but you can see, like, it's one of those funny things. It's like back when I bought a minivan, and I realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one per sort of, like, usable remaining low-maintenance life, because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that I did. Yeah. In the same way, everyone has actually. to the same performance data that I do and that you do and is doing the same calculation

going, okay, how do we position our products so that they're like, you know, these ones are pretty okay, but what you really want is this one. And so they're looking at ramp pricing. They're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost and their motherboard's cost, and they're trying to make it, they're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling. And the one they don't want you to buy, less compelling. So that's probably the route that I would go right now. if you were looking for a serious upgrade on AM4, and X3D is not really an option. And Pancratz's advice is pretty good.

What do you say, 12,700K? Yeah. That's a really solid option as well. I'm just, I'm a little worried that while we are saving some money by sticking with the DDR4, we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our CPU, and I'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in gaming. I think it's really going to depend on your local market, too.

That, yeah, 100%. Yeah. And what's nice about my option of going DDR5 now, even though like that sucks, is that DDR4 is also benefiting from the Rampocalypse in terms of its value. So the fact that you have some DDR4 helps take a little bit of a bite out of that DDR5 upgrade. Yeah. All right. Hit me, Dan. Hi, LLD.

My dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately, so I'm getting one for his birthday. Nice. What is your favorite present that you have received? received from your kids or your parents from you. Oh, wow. Favorite present from my kids? There's a really cute one they made me. They made me an iPad that was like a little,

like a, not like a pop-up book, but like a lift the flap thing. So it has a whole bunch of apps on it. And then in each app, they like wrote something nice under it. That's cool. It's really cute. Yvonne helped them make it. Oh, you know what? There was another really good one they did for me.

They made me pajamas that had like vinyl iron on things of these things I like. So it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that. I wore those into the ground. Usually, Vaughn is the actual, you know, driver of the stuff that my kids give me that I really like. That makes sense. I don't need anything from my kids. Their smile when I walk in the door is like realistically all I ever hope to need from them. Hallmark card.

Sorry? Hallmark card. don't want a Hallmark card. It sounds like what's on a Hallmark card. Oh, sure. I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting six dollars on a card. 13. I don't know how much a Hallmark card costs.

They're a lot of money. They're insane. It's so stupid. No, dog. I'm going to hear about saying that. But I'd stand by it. They're ridiculous. I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but one of the very memorable one for me is,

you know, when you turn 16. at least up here, there was a lot of conversations around like, are your parents going to get you a car? That was not going to be a thing for us, but my dad bought me. It's supposed to be a gift from you to your parents. Oh. Hallmark card.

No, I've got some cool ones. I'm trying to think of like what's the... I mean, I think the one you did this year was really cool. Do I talk about that? It's up to you. It's over now, so no one's going to hear. harass you there. Lord of the Rings was like a huge thing for my family.

Like my mom has a huge like chest of memorabilia from back then. We won some like call in contest that I think you had to like know details with the movies or something to try to win to get us an advanced screening for I believe it was two towers. I won that. I think I brought my mom. I think it was sorry I said the other way around. It was my mom and I that went.

I think it was I think I won it. Anyways, whatever. Very, very, very into Lord of the Rings. And they had a 25-year anniversary thing this year. And the Hobbits and the actor for Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there. And you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff. And I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people and whatnot. And it's interesting.

I think I talked about that a little bit on the show here. but it's interesting how it kind of went. Yeah, no, it wasn't how you expected. No, I mean, the show was terribly ran. It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran. I talked to, there was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now. I hope I gave him a show to it last time I talked about it,

but there was somebody there that like really helped our experience not be really terrible, which was, which was awesome. Oh, someone in chat said John Reese Davies is a bundle of joy. Yeah, he was like, amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimley is like one of my least favorite characters. Really? Because he's like very definitely just used his comedic relief most of the time.

I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because I've met John Ries Davies in real life. And I'm like, oh, he's just kind of like that. When we were all taking photos, he was like tickling people to try to get them to laugh. And he'd like get really happy if he got you. He was very funny. That's fun.

And yeah, like the, you have to toss me scene. It's so good. Felt a lot more like real after meeting him too. Right. Like it feels less acted. That's just kind of what he's like. Yeah.

Yeah. That was awesome. But yeah, that's probably one of my, my, I like that one more. Yeah. I thought that one was awesome. Yeah, it was pretty sweet. Up next.

Two quests. Linus, what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp? What do you do? Diet, reading, sleep. We know about exercise, but what else do you do? And Luke, when's the chicken recipe? Help a bro. It's on floatplane. It is. It is. You can find it. LmG.G slash floatplane. Not only gives you the recipe, he makes it. Yep. So he shows you how to do it. Uh, keeping my mind sharp. I mean, is it sharp? You'd be honest, right? Yeah, I think so. I it's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this. You know, oh, you know, how did you work so hard in the early days of LMG? And how do you do this? And how did you succeed? How did you do that? I don't have a choice.

I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you can only, you can, it's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitively. your brain's not a muscle, but it does, in my experience, it does wear out. I, like, my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired than other things, but when you run a business, you can't avoid those things. You don't really have that luxury of, like, this task is not good for my mental health. You get, fortunately, a lot of support if you have a good team and I do but at the end of the day you can't just like hide from things

and if you do they tend to snowball and get bigger and we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a problem and ultimately it has turned into a much bigger problem no choice power through it terrible advice

I'm not great for self-care. But how do I do it? Like that. Yeah, sometimes just gotta do it. For a bit of a slight jump back, this is it. If you're looking for it, there's your title. I do, I do read.

I try to sleep. I often am not able to sleep anymore. I don't know if it's like just age or stress or kids or whatever it is. Seems it's been really rough. I try to not eat total garbage, although I had a really, I had the worst cheat day that I can remember. Are you doing that thing I recommended?

Oh, I've tried the ultra-filtered milk. Okay. It doesn't taste that great. That isn't what I was talking about, but okay. Oh, the powder? Yeah. I haven't tried that yet. Okay.

No, no, no. No, I'm talking like cheat day. Like, this is not good. That was a different thought. So I went down for a little workshop. Buddy of mine, Danny's a badminton guy, but he runs a paint shop. Jake actually introduced us of all people. And so he runs like a paint spray shop.

And after my terrible experience painting my bike, he was like chatting with me and was like, oh yeah, I could like maybe like show you how to paint some stuff. And I was like, oh yeah, I could get like a care package of merch for your son. He's, his son's really into the channel. Anyway, we figured out a deal. And Danny's a super nice guy, very generous with this time. He's come out and run a couple of like badminton Reddit group meetups at our badminton club.

the world is so small and you never know what kind of connection you're going to make by just like being nice to people so anyway we've done a few things together and he offered to help me

figure out my paint gun so that if I ever try to tackle something like that again I maybe will be somewhat competent this time it won't take two and a half years anyway I was on my way back from that really nice little session

I've learned a lot and I was like oh is Krispy Cream still open and unfortunately Unfortunately, it was. So. Lina's has a thing for Krispy Kreme. I got myself a dozen of the Krispy Kreme original glazed. Do you eat them all? That evening, it was probably the most perfectly baked batch of Krispy Kreme donuts that I have ever eaten.

The glazing was perfect, not too much sugar. Like the bottom still had no sugar, but it was like down the sides. So it wasn't like too sweet. and it was like the lightest, chewiest, like, it was, I ate eight of them that evening and four the next morning, three and a half. My daughters caught me with the last one in my hand. They were like, are the rest of them gone? Are there any for us?

Because I had intended to share them. It's, I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it taste so light. It's incredible. And I even, I went really late at night thinking, oh, it's probably going to be like a crappy batch from like many hours ago. But it was like the freshest, perfectest batch of crispy creams I ever had. I just, oh, man.

It was so good. It was so good. That's pretty sweet. Yeah. So I cheated like super hard earlier this week. And then I punished myself on the Stairmaster. I'm, uh, I think I'm, I think I'm pinch test. Okay today, so it clearly wasn't that bad.

Yeah, pinch test. There's like, dude, I'm closing in on 40, and there's like front flap that just won't go away anymore. Yeah, you just start to carry more weight. It just sucks, man. It sucks. That's life, though. I've been losing decently consistently,

consistently lately. I started with the knee problems. I sent you a little video of it. I started the treadmill, walks again. I have like a foldy treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk. Um, and that's been pretty good. Part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that. Oh, yeah. Is annoying. Um, because like, I'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that I just forget to switch. Um, but then once it's going, I can stay on it for a while. Um,

190 calories is no big deal but 12 yeah no no Dan was saying it's it's only 190 yeah yeah I was just in chat clarifying it's 190 each yes yes no 190 each that's actually way better than I would have expected me too uh let's see a McDouble gallery if you to macdouble it's 400 calories yeah so I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting That's not good. Oh no, we're not saying it's good. Okay. Like, okay, if you had one.

Dan seems to be trying to, it seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible behavior. Like how much is a... No, no, I was surprised that like a donut is not... McDonald's milkshake. Oh, those are like a thousand. I try to go with medium to be pretty chill. 750 calories for a medium milkshake for McDonald's.

Yeah, milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes. What about like a fries? But I just, I almost never do it anymore. Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one, but I just, I can't. A medium fries is 350 calories from, and like, who's getting medium? So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries for McDonald's. And this is a Canadian one.

I'm sure the American size is bigger. Wouldn't be too surprised. So, so it's like for, you know, for that many fries, you get a few donuts in there. Yep, yep. And I would. I think I would take three crispy cream donuts. I would a thousand percent take three crispy creams. Over, I think.

Oh, McDonald's fries. Okay, if they're freshly fried, though, look, you guys have heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times on this show. Oh, sorry, sorry. AJ, not our AJ, but full point chat, AJ, said I run an ice cream parlor. Our brownie sunday is 1,600 calories. That's insane. Holy gross.

That's insane. These numbers, like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why I'm saying like, oh, it's like surprising that it's only 190. Eating 12 of them is. One serving of McDonald's plain hamburger bun is 150 calories. This is what I'm saying. It's actually very surprising. That's that low.

That's nuts. Probably because I think the, it's a cake one, right? So it's mostly like kind of air. It's pretty airy. Yeah. It's pretty airy. I've had one of those. Love it.

Most of it probably comes from... Many years, sugar. So good. Rather than, like, fat. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer. McDonald's fries are... Dude, when the...

Fresh McDonald's fries... Pretty good. Yeah, I'll just... I'll eat them without even thinking about it. Yeah, I can't have them within reach. Like, our kids don't eat McDonald's much, but when we do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back.

where I can't reach them because I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any. What is the correct price, in your opinion, for a hybrid motorcycle? What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit? Should it be feet forward or standard or sit-it scooter style? That is totally up to you. Personally, I do not have, nor do I have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle. I like my old crappy 23-year-old bike from 2003. It makes motorsports noises, which makes me happy,

which normally I don't care about. I don't care about it for my go-kart. I don't care about it for my full-sized car. I just don't care about that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except my motorcycle. and the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in my life. Like it's so small and it consumes so little fuel. Like a van, right?

Like a Honda Odyssey, like a much larger vehicle like that. And so I just, I can't, I can't care too much about that. I also never ride very far so comfort is not a major concern so I'm on like the street bike I'm like all folded over the handlebars and stuff I'm the wrong person to ask is what I'm trying to say right now because the way I use my bike is just completely unaligned

with your very practical concerns and I'm so sorry to give you such a non-answer but at least it was a thorough and long one that's all that matters in the end Aloha LDL from Hawaii What is your best component overheating story? My 6950 was hitting

114 due to cheap thermal paste Thanks for selling PTM 7950 Yikes I haven't really had a lot of tons of problems with it Computer overheating story I mean I've definitely had some issues There's been I mean

I mean there's the multiple times that I've accidentally boiled water in a loop and therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the fittings. Like that's that's a thing because you run so many test benches. You're just like putting things together quickly. So if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because, you know, whatever, if it runs for long enough, the coolant will get hot. Maybe not maybe not like boiling, boiling, but enough that you're getting pressure build up. And I've had that happen. before. I don't remember the specifics around it, but it's funny. I think I think everything lived.

I think it's happened a couple times. I don't think I've ever actually killed anything like that. Because as long as it's clean water and you get it off right away and you turn, cut the power, you can actually, hardware is very survivable. Like that Coke, that Coke video we did where we spilled Coke on the running machine and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on. We didn't stage that. We don't fake stuff. That happened. It all lived. Yeah. So when posted, when Bingo Chronified, posted that the MacBook Neo is funny, you had a single thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30%. Yeah.

Was it optimum tech that did it? Oh, cool. Sorry. And it's a little more complicated than that. I haven't actually watched Optimum's video. But I do know, ETA Prime. Sorry, ETA Prime did it. So I haven't watched ETA Prime's video.

And so I don't know exactly how they did it. what I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook way back in the day, where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heat sink. So it's not just as simple as Apple is herder too stupid to put cooling in their machine. I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that. But it's not that they were too cheap to put in a thermal pad. It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device can get. So they're not allowed to just put the CPU or S.S.

see as it were heat directly into the bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting on your lap it sounds like Alex actually oh did they do that too mr zip tie tech just threw in a thermal pad oh that's cool um I haven't watched the video but you got a bunch of views on it heck yeah cool um mess around with some cooling I don't know where it's at in the video but you guys will have to just check it out it gets oh cooling upgrade here Well, you guys should go watch the video. We're not going to... Yeah, yeah.

I'm just looking at it myself. But yeah, that's pretty sweet. I saw probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings pretty low and whatnot, but above 30 FPS and cyberpunk. That's pretty cool. Just pretty nuts. All right, Dan, want to hit us with another? No.

No. No, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working. I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working. It's highly involved. It's not as simple. What are you talking about? Because he was muted. So what device?

Nomad MP3 player from the Dankpods collab video. Yeah, we're not fixing that. It's just I don't care that much about it. I'm so sorry to the nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it. I double pressed. A couple more here. Hello, Linus. When your kids had a pure toddler meltdown,

how did you and approach that? And did you de-stress afterwards? Distress? De-stress, I think they mean. Yeah. Peer-totling Meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right, you have to handle it only a few times.

And the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that you want to see again. So if a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over and over and over again. And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within eye shot, but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night. You're less likely to see it again.

And we did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another. And sometimes those battles literally took hours. I think I've told the story on Wancho before of the time that I was in an IKEA cafeteria for, I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that I had said you have to take one more bite. And she said no. And I said, you don't understand. You will take another bite.

And after that, there was no question. because when I said, and literally I brought this up, the next time we had a battle over food, is I said, you have to eat this broccoli, and she said no, and I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at IKEA,

where you sat there and you cried for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was, and you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it? Can I go now? Yes. the tough part is you've got to be you've got to keep your cool you have to be good on the other end of it yeah you have to be you have to keep your cool

in the moment because if you lose it and you threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't follow through on you've completely you've completely broken the system you have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable and that you will follow through on. Yeah, so man, it's tough. Last one I got to you today. Question for Luke. You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier,

and I'm wondering if you've played any of the older Forza Horizon games. Two and three are still some of my favorite games. No, I've thought about going back, actually, because there was, I think, I originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting. And then, to be completely honest, I actually really did not like the drifting in Forza Horizon 5. unless you were off-road

really, really liked the off-road drifting. But the like on-track, on-road drifting in Forest Horizon 5, I really kind of hated. It just felt like liquid. It didn't feel like it was... I don't want it to be an actual sim. I wasn't playing Horizon for a sim. But it just felt way too whack.

Even like Mario Kart drifting felt like it was more... grounded in something that made sense. But I've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older Horizon games. But yeah, I've never really got around to it. There was almost like too much content in Horizon 5 to the point where when I was done, I was just like, okay, I think I'm going to take a break from racing games for a little bit. Yeah. What?

No, I like Orange. Luke doesn't not like the drifting in Mario Kart World? No, I don't like it. Oh, you don't like it? they are totally right. Oh, what's wrong with it? It's just worse than eight. I'm not necessarily saying it's bad.

Oh, interesting. It's just worse than eight. And it's not necessarily how it feels, but it's how like the game interacts with it, how it rewards it when you should use it versus other things, stuff like that. Is it just because you're used to eight? It could be.

I actually really like it. I've been open to that as a possibility. I only ever played Mario Kart DS extensively, and it's really close to DS. So I was able to just pick it up and go. and I really don't like the drifting in eight. I mean, okay, fair enough. The Mario Car drifting 8 versus World is like insanely different than Horizon.

The reason why I brought it up was because like in MaroCart, you can kind of like really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift. And in Horizon 5, and some people corroborated this in Philip Link Jet as well, in Horizon 5, when you take a drift car tuned for drifting and you take it on the the road, the road just might as well not even be there. It's like, you're just kind of floating around. Like, it's, it's very weird. Um, I've been in cars while they were drifting. I've drifted in other games. Yeah. It's, you're really kind of like fighting with the engine in the road to make yourself go around this thing. There's a lot of like force feedback, like a lot of it. And in,

in horizon, it's just like, I don't know, it's weird. And that's why I actually preferred drifting off road was because fighting the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more legit than trying to drift on the on the actual asphalt yeah pancgrats is saying horizon five feels like the physics are weird with drift cars yeah it feels really weird it doesn't feel good um i think the main thing with world wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than anything else um but yeah Well, I think that's all for now because I am busy playing vibes. And I have no further time for WAN Show.

So we will see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe to LMG clips because that's going to be the WAN show channel. It'll be called something else, but go subscribe now.

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