The WAN Show - Windows 11 Is Getting Faster - WAN Show May 15, 2026

Episode Date: May 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up, everybody? Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN show. We're back at you geekier than ever. Yeah. Sexy, right? Yeah. And we've got some good news today. Windows 11 is getting a speed boost. And for some reason, they're getting user backlash about this.
Starting point is 00:00:24 No, no, please do. Make Windows faster. Definitely appreciate that. I mean, how else are they going to compete with Google Books? Oh, that tradition. The AI sequels to Chromebooks. We don't know a ton about these yet, but they were a huge focus for Google at their recent Android event earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We'll be talking a little bit about those and some, maybe you're going to be mad at me, maybe you're going to be mad at me, but some AI features of aluminum OS that I am legitimately stoked for. There's one that's really cool. we'll see if we have the same opinion. Linux gains more critical Windows apps. Very important.
Starting point is 00:01:06 3D movie maker and space cadet pinball. Those are, I mean, they're not on Windows now. Absolute app cinema. Just another dub. And also, I don't know. This one I think is funny. I don't know if it's good news, but it's funny.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Amazon employees are token maxing due to pressure to use AI tools. It's a, it's actually, it's funny. It's a funny topic. The show is brought to you today by AMD, Cape, Motion Gray, and Explit, along with our RAPP partner D-Brand, our laptop partner, Razor, and our chair partner also Razor. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic today, which is that Windows 11 is getting a speed boost. Microsoft is testing a new Windows 11 feature called Low-Late.
Starting point is 00:02:20 latency profile that temporarily increases CPU clock speeds in very short bursts to speed up things like the start menu, app launches, and other UI interactions, mimicking how MacOS handles responsiveness. And for that matter, also Android and iOS and basically any other modern operating. I didn't realize Windows wasn't already doing this. Windows Central testing showed up to 40% faster launch times for Microsoft's own apps like Outlook, the store, paint, and file explorer, and up to 70% faster launch times for the start menu and context menus. The feature has drawn community backlash,
Starting point is 00:03:01 with people accusing Microsoft of cheating and using a Band-Aid solution instead of addressing underlying Windows performance issues. I think they can do both. Scott Hanselman, VP for Core AI GitHub and Windows, defended this change, though, responding to several critics on Twitter, noting that your smartphone already does this. You've discovered dynamic frequency scaling.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Mac and Linux do this already, and you guys aren't complaining. This is probably the most blatant, transparent admission that Microsoft is like a decade behind that I have ever seen from a Microsoft VP. It's like, hey guys, we were just doing the thing that everybody else completely lapped us on the track doing sorry, and he's 100% right. There should be zero backlash for Microsoft doing this.
Starting point is 00:04:04 There should just be, yeah. Especially considering it's a profile, so it sounds like you can turn it off if you want. This is like when my kid is running like the 800 meter and she's like the last. last one to cross the line. Like, you know, yeah, you got there! To be clear, actually, that is not how it went down, by the way.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So, congrats to my youngest for actually qualifying for the next stage. Oh, nice. But anyway, but the point is just that this is a good thing. With that said... Yeah, they do still have other work to do. Yeah, there's some validity
Starting point is 00:04:41 to Microsoft needing to clean up their house Because just cranking my CPU in order to make up for your, in a lot of cases, fairly garbage decision making over the years is not the answer, but it can be part of the answer. If you do this in order to catch up with other operating systems and you get rid of React native being part of the start menu and things like that, the combination can be really good. And I don't think the order necessarily matters.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I know some people are like, oh, you should fix those things first. It's like, no, you should do. anything you can as soon as you can to improve the user experience as much as you can. Absolutely. And if you really think
Starting point is 00:05:23 that turning up the frequency of the CPU a little bit when you launch the start menu or whatever is going to have a significant impact on the battery life of your laptop. Guys, how long do you think it's actually boosting for?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Like it's for a fraction of a second, like a tiny fraction of a second. MacOS laptops known for being super efficient do this. You can probably relax. And also, it's described as a profile. Yeah. That would tell me, I am guessing, but that would tell me that you can probably turn it off if you really care.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Which you shouldn't. It should probably just be the default profile from now on. Yeah. Honestly, I would prefer they actually did that and then called the other profile like... Dog profile? Like something. Yeah. Worst profile?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Extreme battery saver. Sure. But we already have. that. So this should just be... Just bundle it into that or something. This should just be in the default balanced and performance profiles.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, good. I just got a text on WhatsApp. I bet you couldn't even tell. No. Yeah, we should probably... You want to talk about these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I... Okay, so full disclosure, meta-sponsored, I think it's a short. Yeah, it's a short. Just talking about some of the new features. I am not on the clock right now though Right now I'm just wearing them because Sammy came in here before the show started
Starting point is 00:06:51 and asked if he could just get a shot of me wearing them on the WAN show set and I was like yeah sure that's fine Have you uploaded the short yet? Nope okay And then Luke and I started talking about them and I've been using them for about a week now and there's a lot of stuff that is I got to be honest with you pretty cool
Starting point is 00:07:13 I showed Luke the display before the show started. And I've actually, my neural band, so the bracelet that you wear that kind of keeps track of which fingers you're tapping and lets you like swipe, you swipe through the menu like this. And then you can like write texts like this. You can also dictate to it. Weird. Yeah, it's super funky. So you wake the device by double tapping here. and then you say yes with this,
Starting point is 00:07:44 no with this, and it can tell the difference between those. It's pretty cool. As far as my understanding goes, there's ones coming from Apple and Google and actually a really wide variety of other manufacturers as well. Tell me this. Samsung.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Tell me this. If you had to put the various smart glasses brands into good boy brand and timeout brand. Which smart glasses would you consider wearing? You want... I want the honest answer. I don't know if this is going to sound surprising to you or not. I'm going to type it because I already know what you're going to say.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, it's so... Oh, you're so predictable. Okay, hit me. Apple? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. And, man,
Starting point is 00:08:41 Apple's a company that I have a complicated relationship with because on the one hand they definitely have in order to access the Chinese market have absolutely compromised their user privacy absolutely I mean is a Chinese Apple user
Starting point is 00:09:03 like less worthy of Apple's promises with respect to their data safety than a Western one I don't really if that's your corporate promise then I don't really see why there would be a difference there. And if there is a difference there, then I don't really think you get to stand there and beat the drum about how amazing you are
Starting point is 00:09:19 with respect to user privacy. Depending on where your lines are. But on the other hand, right? And then there's Apple being an obstacle for years and years and years with respect to support for RCS encrypted messages across platform because it would disincentivize people to stay locked into the iOS Waldgarten. It's like they're highly financially,
Starting point is 00:09:41 motivated to just walk away from user privacy whenever it's not convenient for them. Repairability is often really trash as well. However, they also have gone to bat for their users when it's more convenient. So if there was someone that I was, that I also was going to, I'm not going to use the T word. I'm not going to say trust. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll use the other T word. If there was someone I was going to tolerate, Apple does seem like an okay-ish, better maybe bet. I'm not really stoked on strapping meta or Google or anything else to my face with visual and audio inputs.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm not actually recording you right now because my neural band battery is dead. I just, yeah, I don't know. But I have always thought, like, like hey there you go oh i guess you can do is there physical buttons or do you like squeeze the frame or is there a button it all there's a button so it also supports um not the neural band but the like beta firmware that i have is neural band only so i'm i wonder if you can i'm recording you right now wonder if you can cut off that little LED uh so if you cover it uh which side did on again this side right yeah so if you cover it um it um it'll get mad at you and
Starting point is 00:11:09 and it will stop recording. From what I've heard, I've never actually tried to cover it because I haven't used them in public much yet. I've used them on the court, though. So I was hanging out with, like, a former junior national player, and he was really excited about these because he's trying to grow his social media presence.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And so I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to get some, like, POV footage of training with you. And Jaden's like, oh, yeah, that's super cool. Can you, like, send all that to me after? So, you know, when everyone around you is consenting and cool with it, like, man, this is a perspective that no, there's no other way to capture like this. And it's really cool. I mean, there's, is Carter in full-pin chat said, what about the recent news that meta is having humans watch and categorize videos without telling anyone? Yeah. And there was also news in there that like a ton of it was accidentally recorded nudity. and other various stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And from what I've heard of various ages. So like it's, yeah, there's, there's, I. Charge nuclei says orgy glasses. I hope that, yeah, yeah, I promise you, yeah. I hope, you know, Apple sticks to their usually pretty decent privacy guns. Yeah. Because from what I've, rumors that I've heard, and maybe these are real, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah. Is there ditching Vision Pro? Yeah, I heard the Vision Pro team has basically... Yeah, going to glasses. Gone all in on these because... Because the Vision Pro had a lot of good things about it. Oh, it did. It really did.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It was the coolest product that's ever been so irrelevant. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a cool way of saying it. Yeah. So, like, they could be really good. and I, I, you know, sometimes you just have to listen to people and accept what they say. And when you look at Google and when you look at meta, they're not hiding it.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Just listen to them. We will take as much data as we possibly can. Use it in every way we possibly can and sell it to absolutely everyone we possibly can for as much money as we possibly can. Yep. I mean, they're literally advertising companies. Yeah. Like they are, they are, it's not even saying the quiet part out loud, it's saying the really loud part as loud as they possibly can to everyone that will listen.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And at a certain point, you have to be like, okay. And they're really good at it. So we, we traditionally have relied almost exclusively on our own videos and our own sort of social media profiles to promote LTT store, for instance. over the last, it's funny, we had in all hands recently, and Dave, who is heading up operations or I forget what his actual job title is, whatever, he's definitely heading up marketing, he's Dave, he's Dave, he's kind of a beast.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And he's been doing, he's been spearheading marketing for LTT store offsite. So we're doing things like influencer affiliate programs and things like that. We've got an, oh, I don't know if he's, past probation yet, but we've got another really super smart guy who is, who's working on that with Dave. And then Dave has been running like Reddit ads, meta ads. More recently, we did Pinterest when we were promoting the leggings, which sold out like crazy fast. Thank you so much for your support. We're hopefully going to be able to do like more women's styles based on that success. But he, during the all hands, he had this line that really stood.
Starting point is 00:15:03 out to me where he's like, okay, how many of you in this room have seen an LTT store ad lately? And two-thirds? Probably about there. Three quarters? Yeah. Like, most of the company was like, yeah. And, like, I have. I put my hand out.
Starting point is 00:15:23 A bunch of family members of mine knew about the leggings because of ads. The leggings were one of the first times that, like, I got. requests to get something. Usually I'll be like, oh, we have this cool new thing. Are you interested in this? And the leggings were like, multiple people were like, hey, I want the pockets. Yeah. Yeah. And so what we're discovering is that, oh, I forget the exact numbers, but like for every dollar that we're spending with these advertising giants, like, it's something that I've always known. Like, obviously they're running profitable businesses, right? Yeah. And obviously, you know, people like Ridge or Vessi or whoever like would stop giving them money if it wasn't working
Starting point is 00:16:12 yeah right so obviously it's working but this is my first time really seeing firsthand like oh my gosh the more we spend just like marketing with meta or with Reddit or with Google just like the more sales we have and it's like I wouldn't say it's an infinite money glitch because you reached like a point of diminishing returns. But if you have a good product, they are crazy good, as we saw during the All Hands, at taking an LTT product
Starting point is 00:16:47 that a tech-interested person might be interested in and putting it in front of them wherever they go on the internet. It's like, I don't know. Everything I'm saying is like, yeah, duh, line is common sense ever since like double-click, you know, like back in the 90s or whatever. And it's like, yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I know that advertising is just kind of a solved thing It's just I don't know It's been weird to see it from the other side Yeah To experience it from the other side And go oh this is just like pouring gasoline On the fire of your business
Starting point is 00:17:19 Um Dude we're we're f***ed Like just like just everything I know it's good news When's showing everything But like Yeah it's It's just, it's crazy because, and I go, right, so right, I'm coming back to it, these are so good now.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Oh, okay. That, like, people are going to wear them. So whether you choose an Apple one or, like, a cool open source privacy one. Framework makes some glasses. Yeah, framework does a glass. I mean, the branding's already there. The framework frames. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Replacable arm things. Sure, whatever, right? Or, like, or graphene OS, you know, makes an OS for it. You might wear that one. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which one you're wearing. The people around you. It matters which one the people around you're wearing. We've already got multiple people here at the office that regardless of any sponsorship deals we do or don't do around like meta-a-I, glass display, whatever things, are just wearing them.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They buy them and wear them. We thought there was a lot of tribalism around like consoles and like PC versus Mac. Oh, dude. Glasses. Your choice of electronic compromises my personal security is going to be wild. That's going to be crazy. I never even really thought about that too much. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:18:43 We're an Apple glasses, a group of friends. I'm sorry, you don't use eyeglass message. You have some metas? Excuse me? You don't belong here. One of the things that on the subject of,
Starting point is 00:18:58 like, cross-platform communication is a shortcoming right now is it supports, like, messages, Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger. Like, it's basically all meta-ecosystem stuff. But one of the things that... Oh, okay. But things might change at some point.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Sorry, I don't know when we're publishing our short, and I don't know if anything we're saying it is under embargo. Got it. But yeah, like, hopefully the ecosystem will expand at some point for apps that you can use. Because right now, they're not that useful for me day-to-day. Like, I have to put them on intentfully to use them because maybe 90% of my text-based communication is teams.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And then another 5% is WhatsApp. And then another 1% is Discord. Discord is basically just you. That's so astonishing to me. That no one else in my life uses it? Yeah. Because, like, I reached out to someone literally, like, last week on a different platform. and they were like, yeah, sorry, I like really never check this.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Can we jump to Discord? And that happens to me at least once a month. Like everyone I know seems to be moving to Discord. Okay. So above the fold. So this is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. There's 12 chats here above the fold. Tell me how far back that goes.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I mean, four down in your back a month. I wonder. By the time we get to 12, that's from that chat. It's hidden by the chat icon is from seven months ago. So there's like a dozen people that I talk to with a frequency of twice a year. My entire screen. Yeah. When you get to the very bottom one, it finally gets to two days.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah. So Discord is just. Discord. Oh man. Teams is, teams in Slack are obviously the lion's chair. like Discord is next after those ones. And Discord, a bunch of Discord is work. Do you think that's a generational gap?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah. Your cohort is five years younger than mine. Like... Yeah, because then once you go far enough down below mine, I don't know if it's still Discord. It might be something else. I have no idea. But probably.
Starting point is 00:21:26 But like even a lot of creators. Oh, yeah. Most, the vast majority of creators that I talk through is through Discord. So, other people here, we've got... Ludwig, Gerald Undone, Shroud, Finster, yeah, Bocobola,
Starting point is 00:21:43 Lija, and you, I think you count. Sure. And then the only work ones in here are Eshtek, so, not unraid, the other thing that they make, hexOS, that's embarrassing. HexOS, so that's the NAS software that I invested in, so their CEO
Starting point is 00:21:58 messages me on here, and then it's just like, yeah, a couple friends, a couple YouTube contacts, work ones make up at least a quarter of my within the last day go figure like anyway until we get until we until there's like more cross-platform chat i'm going to get like a small percentage of my notifications on here anyway which means i'm far more likely to look at my watch um but i can kind of through these frames luke to the i can see you i can see you out about Finster.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I can see the future. Oh, to be clear, I don't, so I talked to, I talked to Finster once five months ago, basically. Just saying, hey, it was, it was cool that you came to visit our office. I think people are just surprised.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. Elijah introduced me. Yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't know very much about a lot of the people that I, that I message, but I've heard that she's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Sure. And I think she came up for LTX once or something, I think. Visiting the LTT camera department, something, something. Something. Oh, no, friend met you. Yeah, I don't know. I got introduced, and from what I've heard, she's pretty cool. That's all I know.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I just thought it was funny seeing the chat. Yeah, yeah. And apparently very popular with our audience. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Make sense to me. I'm gonna take these off now.
Starting point is 00:23:39 They're pretty uncomfortable with the, with the headphones and stuff. Yeah. All right. Is there any leaks about the Apple ones? Yeah, lots. No timelines, though, because they were kind of all in on the whole like VR headset that we insist
Starting point is 00:23:56 is not a VR headset and that we stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the two main use cases. for VR headsets for. Is this from the pressure because of the headphone? You have like big whatever those are called. Oh yeah. Is that the pressure because the headphones or does that always happen with those? No, it just always happens with them. Wow. They're they're not light. Pretty heavy, eh? Yeah, they're not super light but also like I don't have nose calluses like because I don't wear glasses. Right, I guess you get more use some especially when they're heavy. Yeah. And also just people who just like wear glasses will take off their glasses and they'll have like the mark there. So I
Starting point is 00:24:31 I wouldn't read too much into that. They're not uncomfortable. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Okay, Google Book? Oh, yeah, we could do that. Google Book. Google Book, the AI sequel to Chromebook. On Tuesday of this week, Google gave a sneak peek of the Google Book, which is kind of like a Chromebook,
Starting point is 00:24:53 but with more Android support and deeper integration of Gemini, obviously. Google Books can run Android apps directly on the laptop, or can access files and use apps from your Android. phone. It's expected that Google books will run Google's upcoming aluminum OS. Aluminium OS. Aluminium OS. Google didn't discuss the core hardware in the announcement, but Intel and Qualcomm
Starting point is 00:25:18 have both made announcements confirming their partnerships. So yeah, okay. Google VP John Miletus later told Chrome unboxed that the upcoming notebooks will ship with processors from, okay, Intel Qualcomm and MediaTech. Oh, and Media Tech. interesting wireless I'm assuming no no no so okay from my
Starting point is 00:25:39 understanding and I'm gonna get some details wrong here because I don't remember and it was a while ago but from my understanding the whole Windows on Arm thing being Qualcomm exclusive with their Snapdragon X chips is like a timed thing and
Starting point is 00:25:54 that's one of the reasons that Qualcomm has been so cagey around people calling it Windows on Arm they want it called like Windows on Snapchat because they want to like plant their flag in the in the windows on arm space before you know some of the lower cost chipset makers can can come in and well do what they do best which is be lower cost chipset makers and so while we haven't seen any meaningful traction for media tech on the windows side yet yeah I can't think of any reason that a media
Starting point is 00:26:31 Tech SOC couldn't power a Google book. And so having that choice right out of the gate could be very interesting. Pugboy says MediaTech has been in Chromebooks for years now. Nothing surprising there. Yeah. So what I haven't seen, though, is a Media Tech chipset that would be like high performance. Do they have something new that's coming that could be more of a competitor for Snapdragon X?
Starting point is 00:26:58 That I don't know. I remember I have a vague memory of maybe at some point there being like a media tech laptop grade chip that was going to be not like an absolute budget tier solution. So yeah, hit me up in chat if you guys if you guys know if we're going to get something high performance because that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Carry on. Google is establishing strict hardware standards across memory, storage, keyboards and overall build quality. Google books will come in a variety. of shapes and sizes from the usual hardware manufacturers of Acer, Aesu's, Dell HP, Lenovo,
Starting point is 00:27:35 etc. Okay, but this, this is the big one. This is the big feature. This is the exciting differentiator. This is why you need a Google Book, sir. Tell them the news. Google Books feature a glowbar on the exterior. We don't know what it does.
Starting point is 00:27:53 We don't know what it looks like. We don't know anything about it. But Google says that it is both functional. And beautiful. Okay, I'm actually only sort of joking. Because how quickly would you get a MacBook that went back to having the glowing Apple logo on the back? Just saying. You do it.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You MacBook owners, if M6 brought back the glowing logo on the back, you'd consider an upgrade. That's how Apple is going to get all the people running M1, M2 Silicon to finally upgrade. You'd love to have it. You've got the glowing red dot and you love it. dot is actually genuinely helpful. You love it. Because I can tell it my laptop's doing based on the glowing red dot. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He loves it. Here comes the glow bar. I'm Derek says holy true. I am actually okay with it just being a little red dot though. So like, I don't know what that means. Well. Axios writer, Ina Freed,
Starting point is 00:28:48 hopefully. Probably. Called the most visible change with the Google book, the magic pointer, which calls up Gemini. Oh, right. I don't know about that, but okay. It's not yet clear, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:02 You didn't finish your sentence, Luke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The magic pointer, which calls up Gemini anytime you wiggle the cursor. And the amount of like mis prompts for that is going to be wild. But it's not yet clear what this means for the future of Chromebooks.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So the wiggle the cursor thing, the amount of times that I'm just thinking and I'll like kind of shake my mouse. I have to consciously, when Luke is reading the doc, I have to consciously not do this. Yeah, exactly. Because it interferes with him reading
Starting point is 00:29:38 because I just like, I just do this as I'm reading. Well, and it's, it's not just that it's highlighting it. It's that the, man, if I can, no, keep doing it. Oh, keep doing it. Oh, I can do that all day.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Because on my screen, see how it actually says like, Wancho 1. Oh, wait, I need to my screen. Yeah. It's the little flag. So as I'm reading. So that will actually like physically cover up
Starting point is 00:29:59 entire words sometimes. It's like, yo. I actually can't read this. Now they're both doing it. They're actually moving the text around. Yeah, Dan, you pasted the text. That is not fair. Sorry, it's the click and drag thing.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's even worse. Yeah. But yeah, I'll even literally just like shake my mouse. So like the amount of times that I would unintentionally bring this thing up. And then I think it looks like it kind of like overlays your screen almost like a snipping tool kind of thing. So like it's going to be really annoying. However, there is one AI feature of aluminum OS that is also coming to Android that I am like so freaking jazzed for.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, I'm trying to contain myself, Luke. I'm trying to contain myself. Okay. It's hard to contain myself. I typed it down because I suspected the same thing. Yeah, it's the like AI widgets. Yeah, they're actually really cool.
Starting point is 00:30:57 They look so cool. This is such a perfect application. of like AI slop crap coding that nobody else is going to need like okay a perfect the one that I want is like a um uh like an ultimate like time zone tracker just for me uh like I just want particular information like I also want maybe a little bit of like weather in there um for I like to have something in Southeast Asia like Taiwan so that I know what's going on, like I know what time zone it is for anyone that I'm corresponding with in Asia-ish.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay. I like to have one in Europe. So like usually I'll pick like Paris or something like that, just so I know about what time it is in Europe. And then I'll do the math myself for East Coast, North America, but I'll have like a local one. And just the ones that exist are so bland and so boring. Like you can see the one I'm using now.
Starting point is 00:32:02 it's just like, I don't know, here's three times. This could be so cool. What if I could long press on one of the other time zones? I don't know if it's going to be able to do this, but I can kind of see where we're headed. Like, what if I could long press on one of the time zones, and then I could make an event on my calendar according to that time zone?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Because I know, because, like, creating events across time zones sucks so much. Like, when I'm over in, in Taiwan for Computex. And I want to make a note to remind myself the evening of the Tuesday when I'm back to go to whoever's band recital or whatever. I then have to do the math for what time it is now that it will be there. And if I could just like integrate like calendar and like cool stuff like that, then I'd
Starting point is 00:32:54 love it. And I know we're not there yet. Don't think you have to do that though. I think under more options. Yeah, on desktop, sure. but I want to be able to do it quickly. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So I think on desktop you can set your time zone, I think. Yeah, so I can, like, I can go do that. But if I could just, if I could just like long press here and basically just go, yeah, great, let's go. And like, as it is now, like, I can go in here and then I can set my time zone. I can do this, like, super tedious flow. But I want to be able to do it quickly. And that's the whole pitch of these, like, custom AI widgets is taking the things that you do all the time that almost nobody. else does all the time and making them like one or two presses oh chef kiss can't wait so excited
Starting point is 00:33:39 if if i could put it on like one of my side monitors i i actually thought of this while we were sitting here and now i just want to do it anyways and i'm pretty sure i can uh but i would have something on my side monitor not my main monitor that warns me about things that i might need to be prepared for for tomorrow. And it should start generating that at like 5 p.m. Yeah. Or like. Because the calendar is going to change all day.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And then at around 5 p.m. it's probably going to decently lock in. And if it can let me know of like, oh, you have like an offsite or something. Yeah. And like, let's say it's not even just for work stuff. So it's like, oh, you're going hiking tomorrow. Make sure you like have the right clothes that are clean. MN Connor, MN Connor, you're missing the point.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The beauty of widgets is that I don't have to open my Google Calendar. Yeah. He's like you can, it's like, it's literally a giant button on my Google calendar. It's an awareness thing. I don't want to open my Google Calendar. I, I want to just stay on my home screen. Like, I actually have, like, I used to maintain, like, a whole bunch of, like, constant tabs in my, in my mobile browser, and I've got it down to four.
Starting point is 00:34:55 and I have found that just that action of like opening up the Chrome app less and having like fewer tabs and fewer things to click on and go into is making me use my phone like way less. Nice. And I'm stoked on anything that helps me use my phone less. That was one line from the Google event that really stood out to me is we are everything. What we're doing for the future of Android is with an eye toward using your phone less. and doing more with the help of your phone. Now there's some stuff that's just obviously horse shit. The assistant, they did this crazy demo where you snap a picture of like a concert poster. And then you just like tell Gemini like, hey, can you just like book me two floor tickets for that?
Starting point is 00:35:44 I'm going to like take a girl with me and set a date for that. And then you like go on your date. And then you're just like, hey, make another date for next week. no girl wants to hear from your fucking AI assistant that you asked her out again. Are you kidding me right now? Stop it. Just stop it.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Stop it. Don't even pitch this. That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works. Maybe in Silicon Valley. Maybe. Maybe. If it's your AI assistant?
Starting point is 00:36:11 Maybe. But like, just no. Probably work. No. Like, dude, I said in the script, like when I, in the video that we did on the Google event, I was like, yeah, even just setting an alarm has about an 80 to 90% success rate for me. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And since then, I tried to set an alarm for something. And it screwed up the, what did it do? No, it timed out. So I, and I was on Wi-Fi. I was on Wi-Fi at home. So I was on like two and a half gig internet. So I didn't even want to hear it. And then this is a funny one.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I was dictating to my notes, because I was actually thinking, like, just because Meta sends these glasses over to me for a sponsored short, doesn't mean I don't still have them. I could totally just do an editorial video on them after the fact. So I've started making some notes from my time just using them now. And I was reminded of a super annoying thing
Starting point is 00:37:20 that dictation just does that drives me absolutely crazy what is up with this word square being capitalized the so the sentence here is and the video quality off of these things is just is capitalized is just mind-blowingly good period
Starting point is 00:37:40 also the fact that sometimes it writes the word period and comma and other times it just puts in the period for me come on man, I would love to see Meta use a sensor that's square, kind of like the selfie camera on the latest iPhone, so that I could choose to crop landscape if I want to. It capitalized square, and it capitalized is. Why? And then the next sentence, not everything that I do is best portrayed in portrait.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Not, that's the beginning of a sentence. Not is not capitalized. The word portrayed is capitalized, and then between in and portrait, there are two spaces. You can't convince me that that, that should ask out someone that I potentially want to spend the rest of my life with. You've got to be kidding. The stakes are too high, I'm afraid. I don't use dictation very much. When you just showed me square, I was like, oh, it thought the company. Sure, but in that context?
Starting point is 00:38:37 And no, it did not. No, come on. It did it to portrayed and all this other stuff. Is portrayed a company? Is that like a prominent silicon, hold on. Here, is that a prominent Silicon Valley company? Portrayed brands. Nope. Forget it. You're done. You're cooked. You're out. You're fried.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So there are definitely things that are exciting and there are things that AI is really good at. I tried to, I was looking for a moment from an older video a little while ago, and I just couldn't remember. I was looking for a time on short circuit when I had used. AI to try to find our desk pad. I wanted it to send me to LTT store to the Northern Lights desk pad by taking a picture of it. I was using like the circle to search or Google lens or something like that. One of their image recognition and search things. And I couldn't remember what video it was from. And Gemini just kept gaslighting me over and over and over and over again, that It was from, I think it was like the pixel 10 or something like that, or pixel 9A, or that it was from
Starting point is 00:39:50 the galaxy S24 Ultra or something. And finally, you know how I ultimately found it was YouTube transcript search. I'm trying to remember what that site. Philmot. This is a really cool site. So it just kept insisting. And the craziest part is was I felt so. gas lit by it because it would give me a timestamp and it would describe the thing that happened.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It was like, you searched for the thing and it just brought up other desk pads of like landscapes or something or like it brought up like the MKBHD store or whatever. Like it was like, I was like, yeah, yeah, that's what I remember happening. But it kept telling me it happened in this video when I was like, no, it's not in that video. And it would keep insisting that it was in one of these couple of videos and it just couldn't find it. And the way that I ultimately found it was by going here on film out. This is a super cool tool, by the way. And I just searched for Northern Lights.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yes, yes, yes, I'm human. Oh my God, relax. Hey. Yeah, you go here. Verify. I'm smarter than an AI. I've never seen that one before. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It was from here. Google 10 Pixel Pro. a Google Pixel 10 Pro fold was what it was from and the AI could not check this one it just insisted that it was on a different one
Starting point is 00:41:25 but it knew it described the way it went down perfectly it just linked me to the wrong video and then chat GPT tripped over itself as well it couldn't do it either and so
Starting point is 00:41:37 man but then there's but then there's things that it does so well. Like I I don't know man I don't know I don't know how to deal with this anymore I don't know how to deal with this
Starting point is 00:41:49 like I like I well okay what what have you used AI for that's been useful recently? Yeah fair enough all right we can move on. I've used it in the same way for a super long time I'll use it for I never use it to actual output
Starting point is 00:42:05 that's been a rule for a long time I use it for brainstorming every once in a while I'll be like, here's a topic. I need all the basic, like, fundamentals of this topic. And then it'll give me basically like headline things. Not headline things. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:26 If I'm asking about a mouse, it'll say latency. You know, like, things like that. Like, it'll give me all the different things to consider. Oh, sure. And then I'll dive into those. Another one, probably my... Basically, like a checklist to make sure you don't overlook anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Okay. I want to learn about this topic. topic, what are the different like subcategory type things? I don't remember the actual verbiage because I just copy paste it. What are the things within this topic that I need to care about? And then it'll let me know and then I'll dive into those usually myself or I'll ask it to expand on one of them and then dive into it from there. But I try to usually make it so that my final information does not come from it because I'm relatively aware of how consistently wrong it is about things. And then probably over all time, I don't know if in the last month or two, but overall time, my most commonly used prompt, objectively, is going to be the sentiment analysis one, where I'll be sending a message and I'll be worried about how it's going to be interpreted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So I'll kind of rubber ducky with the LLM and just be like, what sentiment analysis would you get from this message, kind of in a vacuum? You know, what's funny is I actually, I use it very rarely. but that was something I used it for pretty recently. I pasted in an argument that Yvonne and I happened to get into over text. And I was like, whose fault was it? And basically it crapped out that it was kind of both of our fault. And it legitimately did help us resolve it.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, I'm sorry for that thing that I did that I didn't really like notice or realize I was doing. And she was like, well, I'm sorry for that thing that I did that I didn't really notice or realize that I was doing. And then we were like, okay, I want to make a thing. out. Through Wanshow, I have told people, I have told a very large number of people about this whole sentiment analysis thing. And I find so few people ever try it. And every single person
Starting point is 00:44:25 I've ever known that has ever tried it has been like, oh, it's actually pretty good. Because like, if you really sat there and really break it down for a while, you'll find those things. But often it's like, uh, this is the message that I would send. If this was a normal day, I would just click send, but I want to be a little bit more careful. Copy paste. wonk and then it'll be like it'll say some stuff and it's like yeah i could see that so then you make the adjustment yourself what are your personal tells for when you know that you're probably cranky mine is eating sounds if people if people eating near me is annoying then i know that i'm in a bad mood even if i didn't realize it before because eating sounds normally i won't even notice them
Starting point is 00:45:05 but when i'm like when i'm low blood sugar or i haven't slept enough or there's something that's just kind of been agitating me or I have a headache or whatever. If someone is in the same room as me, and I can hear that, like, lip-smacking, I just, like, I want to, I want to punch them. And I'll, like, I'll be, like, I'll be sitting there going, like, why am I so agitated right now? Look at them.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, they're eating. Do they know how much noise they're making? Oh, this is me. Uh, uh, uh, oh no. Tugee B says, I get this hearing you with the braces. Hey, I have good news on the braces front while he thinks.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Hey, look. This one. It's not that zoomed. Whatever. There's one tooth here that's still quite twisted. And from what I can tell, when we untwist that one, we're pretty much done. So I am hoping, fingers crossed that we are like, two and a half to three months from the end here,
Starting point is 00:46:13 which would put us at the low end of the time estimate they gave me. They said about 12 to 18 months, and that would put us at around the 12.5, 13 month mark. We wasted like an entire cycle with a tie on this one that wasn't secure enough and wasn't moving it. And I felt it right away. I was like, should I go in and tell them to like tie that off better? Because I can tell it's not moving.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And I know that this is the focus, but I didn't. And when I came in, they were like, oh yeah, that wasn't doing anything. So we have to put in the same wire again, but we're going to like tie it different and we position the bracket. I was like, no! That sucks.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I think for me it's like speed. Speed. If I start noticing that I'm just like, like off the dome, just rifling, it's usually not a great situation. Oh, so you're doing things. If I'm no longer controlling my pace, if I'm no longer really thinking through what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:47:07 if I'm going more impulsive. animalistic autopilot brain. It's like, I'm probably tilted right now. God. And I need to, and the main way that I can try to get out of that is trying to force myself to slow down.
Starting point is 00:47:19 How often does that happen on Wancho? Not that often, I think. Do you believe him? I nodded. I tried to cut him off. I tried to cut him off. Because that was so perfect. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:37 I think, I think that's my answer to that. There's a few other things as well. The eating thing I think is pretty common. I think I get that too. I don't think I get it as bad as you. I've seen you react to that before. But yeah, I'll like,
Starting point is 00:47:58 and I'll start noticing that like the non-automatic part of the brain is now focused on what happened a few seconds ago instead of what I'm going to do next. because I'm going so fast that it's like, oh, I didn't like that. I didn't frame that well. And now I'm thinking about that instead of what I'm saying next. And then I start kind of falling behind. And I need to go like, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Let's slow down and get more control over what's happening. What is the actual aim of this conversation? Instead of being right about the next statement, how do I, how do I come out the best possible way out of the conclusion of this scenario or conversation or whatever it is? so I'd try to pull myself back into like, you know, larger picture thinking, I don't know, whatever. It's, uh, yeah. Oh, it's not easy, though. It's not easy because, like, you have to count on one of your tells, like one of your cues, like one of your cues to, to come up.
Starting point is 00:48:57 You have to slow down enough to think, which can be really difficult, which can be very difficult. I don't remember. Even recognizing that you need to slow down. is difficult, but then the, like, really difficult part is actually pulling it back. You know what? I'm the opposite. I can pull it back once I have recognized that I need to. Then that's actually relatively easy for me. But the slowing down for long enough to go, wait a second, we've gone off the rails here, or we're completely focused on the wrong thing right now is not always, not always easy. Yeah. For me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Float plane chat. Y'all need to stop flaming each other. And y'all gonna get some timeouts pretty quick. What's going on? I don't care how much tenure you have. Relax. Thank you, everybody. All right, why don't we jump into a new topic?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh, no. We are explaining comms. Hey. Oh, dude. Dude. Okay. It's not launching with the same amount of fanfare. as like the screwdriver or the cables or the backpack or whatever but this took a similar
Starting point is 00:50:14 time frame to develop really okay so it was in it was in development hell for a couple of years until we finally found exactly the right fabric for these garments and uh this is our uv protective polo, which is made with seawool fabric that's derived from reclaimed oyster shells. Yes, oyster shells that have been turned into a lightweight performance fabric that has antimicrobial
Starting point is 00:50:53 properties. It has because of the weave, excellent moisture wicking, excellent breatheability, not to mention UPF30 plus sun protection. The inside collar has a pop of blue, and we also added a dedicated
Starting point is 00:51:09 deeper chest pocket for your sunglasses. This is the one that I've had a sample of of using like an older fabric that we found. We actually did a full production run of this thing. But what we found was that the older fabric could not be manufactured consistently. So the sizing of the finished run was all over the place.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It is not very often that a Chinese manufacturer will tell you, hey, this thing that we made is not of acceptable quality. We don't want to ship it to you. but that's what happened and they were like we literally don't want to take your money for this the sizing is all over the place
Starting point is 00:51:47 so we had to find a new material this is made of the same seawull fabric blend for lightweight UPF 30 plus sun protection anti-oder performance and breathable comfort for your beach days summer commutes are those moments when your friends somehow convince you
Starting point is 00:51:59 to do outdoor activities I have gotten a shocking number of compliments on my sample of this over the last couple of years it is genuinely one of my favorite garments that we have ever made. And it is like, if you are like me, if you're a vampire and you burn in the sun and you want something that you can wear, but that doesn't make you feel sweaty.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's like the, it's like wearing like a robe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's, it's like wearing an umbrella. It keeps you out of the sun, but you can like go in the sun. And you can even, like, you can go swimming in it and dry off. And because it's antimicrobial. then you don't have to worry about stinking so much.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Like it's not magic. You know, obviously you get dog dew on it or whatever. You're going to smell like dog dew. But like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, these are so exciting. Some minor odors or whatever. And then finally, finally,
Starting point is 00:52:55 oh, do you want to bring up the site so we can show people? I'm sure they... They're like a fun-in-the-sun product, so I'm sure they did like a fun photo shoot. And then finally, to go with them, we've got the UV protective cap, which uses a separate lightweight
Starting point is 00:53:07 moisture-wicking performance fabric. with UPF 50 plus protection while keeping the same familiar LTT hat fit. I'm so, so excited about these. You can check them out at LMG.g.g slash UV collection. I think this is something that is going to really resonate with our audience because, hey, let's face it, I can't be the only one of us that is a bit of a vampire and want something that helps me stay out of the sun while being out in the sun. Eco-conscious sea wool from oyster shells sounds.
Starting point is 00:53:46 This is the kind of stuff that Tatiana just like goes and finds. No, that's super cool. It's just so she's really passionate about this kind of stuff. As a someone who's completely ignorant in that world, it sounds fake. It sounds like Jonathan talking about Kubernetes to me. If I don't know anything about it. Like, what? That's a really, really, really good description.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Like, what do you even talk? How is that possible? Like a cloud service micro-orchestration. Yeah. What are you talking about? It sounds super cool. It sounds awesome. I like the fact that it's not some form of like petroleum plastic derivative thing.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Also, that's cool. I would love to shout out the fashion team. Did you notice something crazy about this launch? it's at a time of the year that makes sense I don't even know if that's where you're going but like that's been a problem for LTT store historically yeah yeah oh my god
Starting point is 00:54:46 good job Linus no not me not me not me good job then for stepping out of the way oh I mean I was not in the way if anything I have definitely wanted things on time let's be real here what it comes down to is the execution of the team.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So I've got to give like a massive kudos to Bridgett. Yeah. She has been, she, she, I don't, it was a weird thing, her coming to work here. Because she like worked at a real company. I was going to say she came from like, yeah. Yeah, bootlaker. Yeah. Like a, you know, like an actual, you know, like fashion company.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And she's been here for like going on five years now, I think. So like this is a very substantial. like portion of her career now. And every once in a while, I kind of check in with her and I'm like, how's that going for you? You know? Does that seem in hindsight like a good decision? And, and, and I mean, I don't want to put any words in her mouth, but she's still here,
Starting point is 00:55:53 obviously. And she's been, she's been pushing the team really hard to start acting like what we are. This is not merch. This is apparel. This is clothing. This is fashion. This is a really, this is a, I really like the feel of these. This is a highly technical garment. Yeah. And technical means a different thing. There's shells in it, dude. Yeah, it means a different thing in the fashion world. But what it means is that it's not pure fashion. It's not just for the looks. It's a highly functional piece that, that achieves its
Starting point is 00:56:25 function in a way that is really just not as simple as finding some off the shelf thing and then, you know, cutting it and sewing it into the shape that you want. Oh, I misspoke. I misspoke. There is polyester in it. Oh, okay. There you go. I misspoke.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah, no, it's a blend. It's a blend. It's a blend. And so, you know, I've got to give, I've got to give, I've got to give, I've got to give credit to the, because I think the C-Will is mostly responsible for the antimicrobial elements of it. That makes sense. Yeah. And so, yeah, I've got, I've got, I've got to give credit to the team. It has almost like a cooling to the touch.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, I can, you can, I'm not even wearing it. I'm just, so I have mine like down here. This is fidget toy. And you can tell that it would not, like I'm gripping it and it feels cool in my grip, if that makes sense. So my hand isn't really heating it up. So Bridget came from like the traditional fashion world where on time was the only thing that mattered. And you just like you shipped it.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You didn't do another sample. You just shipped it because on time is the only thing that matters. You literally would never put the wrong season thing on the shelf. It just doesn't work like that. And then she came here where the only thing that mattered was... We ship winter jackets in June. Make it the best it can be. And when it arrives, we try to sell it.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And she's been kind of... To balance a little bit. Bring those mentalities together. Not completely the other way. Yeah, not completely. No, absolutely not. In fact, that's a big part of the reason this took three years, not because it took three years necessarily, but because we went, okay, now it's done. So we're going to ship it at the next opportunity that is a proper season for us to ship this thing.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And so, yeah, I've got to give her credit for having the discipline and having the vision to basically go, okay, look, I'm going to take what I learned here that's really, really important from this, you know, from my past career. and I'm going to use that to kind of elevate our strategy here and I'm really excited about what they're doing on the apparel side, dude. We have like 80 plus product launches coming between now and the end of the year. Like, think about that for a second. We will be launching almost two new products a week. Yeah, more than two new products a week for the rest of the year. It's pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah. That's a lot. And it's not with an enormous team. It's just a small team of people who just care a whole freaking lot, which is, yeah, which is pretty cool. Hold on a second. Ooh, Gilmour D says, I saw an Instagram reel before about the new shirts. Am I remembering correctly that Tatianis, it's something about part of the process making it safe for people with shellfish allergies. My wife has a shellfish allergy.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You know what? I normally wouldn't bug Tatiana during WAN show, but I'm just gonna see if I can grab her here because we gave people the afternoon off anyway, so if I bug her for like two minutes at quarter after six, it's probably not the end of the world. Let's see if she picks up. Oh, it looks like, oh, shoot.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Sammy just posted in chat apparently. She's on vacation. Okay, I'm not gonna bug her then. Well, sorry. I will have to find I will have to find that out for you and we'll get someone to post it on the product page okay
Starting point is 01:00:14 Dan do you mind sending that to yeah to maybe Bridget to check into that would be that would be amazing Roman says get work zoned yeah well you know how it is you know how it is all right anyway so that's the new products that you guys can check out at LTT store and if you're looking for a good reason to do it,
Starting point is 01:00:37 then why not so you can send a com? Coms are checkout messages. They're something that we created because we don't really believe in people just throwing money at their screens and getting maybe nothing in return from streamers. So we don't do Twitch bits, we don't do super chats,
Starting point is 01:00:54 we don't really do any of that stuff. Instead, we do checkout messages or comms. So what you do is you head over to LTTStore.com, you add any of the cool stuff that we have on, there to your cart. Like say for example the, I don't know, the polo shirt. Luke's just shopping. So, you know, whatever. No, I was noticing, uh, you go in here and there's a polo shirt and then you go under apparel and you go to shirts. Oh, okay. Dan, that's another note. If we could, uh, I already sent it off. Oh, okay. That's what I was doing with all my phone and stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Wonderful. But yeah, we can, we can, let's go to something else. Let's do this. Yeah. The new smaller multi-bit precision set. So this one doesn't have the in-handle storage, but it does come with the torque bar so that you can drive things harder if you want. It comes with fewer bits. Anyway, okay, throw it in the cart. And whenever we're live, you'll see this interface
Starting point is 01:01:47 to send a checkout message. You can choose your color. You can choose whether to show your name or be anonymous. Joshua C. chose to show his name up there. After you place your order, it will go to producer Dan. There he is. Who will reply to it or who will curate it for me and Luke to respond to.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So why don't we do a couple curated checkout messages? Yeah, sure. We've got quite a few come through already. It really doesn't roll off the tongue like merch messages did, does it? No. I just, I can't call it merch anymore, Luke. I can't call it merch. I mean, I'm open to a rebranding again because it's really...
Starting point is 01:02:20 Maybe the messages are merch. Not working for me. The merch was the friends we made along the way. Yeah, something like that. I don't know, man. I liked whale words. wheel words. Those are kind of fun.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I don't know. Let me fester on it a little bit more. Please do. Consider something else. Yeah. Hey, DLM. Love the products as always. I like the new site,
Starting point is 01:02:42 but I'm wondering when slash if the archive slash retired products page was talked about still going to happen. Yeah, the plan is still for it to happen. It hasn't happened yet. We were hard at work getting the new site up and running. I got to say, like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 shout out CW. dev team, like the fact that our new site went up and it has as few game breaking bugs as it had, like it was, I think, zero game breakers and like maybe one or two things that I'd consider high severity and then like a handful of low severity things. Like, as far as new site launches go, I don't think I've seen much smoother than that. Like, I was actually really impressed with the team. Oh, something I haven't checked yet. Remember I showed you that weird bug on my fold where our imagery on the site would be duplicated? I haven't tried it on the new site yet. Let's see. Okay, so I'm going to click a product. I'm going to click the UV
Starting point is 01:03:42 protective hoodie. No, it's fixed now. Cool. So the image scrolling is is sideways now, which honestly is like probably better anyway. Yeah. All right, cool. So yeah, good job. We inadvertently fixed my stupid folding phone issue. Um, yeah, there's, hmm. Trying to figure out if things are a bug or not. There's a new gallery style that we have. It's more prominently noticeable in other products. But like on this one, the UV protective hoodie, it's selected on icy blue by default.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I scroll down and all I see is icy blue. And then they end. Oh. If I want to see the other one, I kick on cactus and then those all the cactus ones. This is apparently very normal. Other like fashion brands are doing this. This is not like we're not. the only ones doing this. I think I might be out of touch. I don't shop for things online a lot
Starting point is 01:04:38 guy by being like, I don't like that so much. Right. You want to see all the different options. And then have clicking the thing, just scroll me to the other color. No, it's tough. No, I think I can already give you the answer to this. And I think the reason is that we have. There's other places that do this. No, no, I just mean, even for us though, we have evergreen items. Like our blank t-shirts, are they're on, again, trying to be more like a fashion brand. We have seasonal colors now.
Starting point is 01:05:07 So we have our evergreen colors like black and then we will do like new colors. And so when, if we were to do all of, if we were to do a photo shoot with these five colors and then we were to launch these three colors,
Starting point is 01:05:23 then what would happen is you would have this weird like photo gallery that contains these five colors Some of which are gone And then all these new colors wouldn't be represented there So you've got to... For me, go to the party shirt for a sec
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah, sure And like I'm more than happy to Except that I may be wrong here No, I'm not saying, you're not wrong, you're just You know This is where it gets a little cray cray for me Mm-hmm Because now you have the series as well
Starting point is 01:05:58 Hmm This one's out of stock Oh we should remove these ones that are all out of stock I Dan do you mind sending a note please To whom Um to But hold on
Starting point is 01:06:11 Dave They're not Wait what Click on the other series Oh shoot Okay I would say that's a bug Ooh okay That's a problem
Starting point is 01:06:21 Okay we need to figure that out Uh yeah we definitely need to figure that out Because it doesn't say that it's out of stock. What it's saying technically is that like Frutiger era does not have the Hosta Le Vista design. Okay, we need to figure that out. So yeah, there's some, there's some stuff, but it's, it's not that bad. I think it looks and feels great. The site in general. By the way, check out one of the party shirts. Curtis B from Madison, US 10 out of 10, the shirt changed my life. Okay, that was the solitaire large, but there's lots of other variants of our tremendous
Starting point is 01:06:58 party shirts like how do you look half this cool right now I doubt it no I doubt it I just a strong doubt that's all
Starting point is 01:07:08 okay Dan do you want to hit us with a couple coms sure I've got one more here for you thank you for the more polo shirts
Starting point is 01:07:15 please add even more colors especially for premium polo what's y'all's opinion on polo shirts and what do you look for when designing a polo
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm gonna lean on Lisa from the CW team. And the big thing that she talks about to the point of like, oh my God, Lisa, I get it. Yes, I know this is important to our design process. You are 100% right. But she harps on this and it's really important. Like, to be clear, what she's saying is so valid and so right. And it's important to say it over and over again because you should never lose track of it. Is she always talks about our customer and what they need, not what they want or what they think
Starting point is 01:07:56 they might like, what they need. And the way that, one of the things that she really tries to emphasize is ease of wearing. And like, what does she mean by that? What she means is that for better or for worse, the people who have chosen to follow the exploits of Linus and Luke over the last, you know, 14 years or however long it's been, can be a little bit like Linus and Luke, who are wearing what today? A black t-shirt. Why are they both wearing a black t-shirt?
Starting point is 01:08:38 It goes with everything. Because it's easy to wear. And so that's the thing that Lisa is always hammering on is when she's looking at, okay, how do we help our customer who we know is going to make their choice based on what is very easy to wear? How do we help them upstyle a little bit? And so that's where you've gotten innovations like the pop of color in the collar, where we're not trying to overwhelm you when you look at your clothes in your closet in the morning or in your drawers.
Starting point is 01:09:16 but we're trying to help you make a choice that is easy and that elevates your style a little bit and that's exactly what they try to do with the polos also comfort that's one of my things is I'll always tell them
Starting point is 01:09:32 look I don't care how many oysters it has in it right like that is not I actually think that's really cool no no I just mean I don't care how many oysters is in it if it's not comfortable or if it shrinks in the wash yeah I will say my My interest in it being made with oysters spiked dramatically after I touched it
Starting point is 01:09:50 and was like, wow, it feels really nice. Yes. And then now that's really cool and now I'm interested in that. I want to figure out, like, I'm going to go home and try to learn about, what was, ocean wool or something? Sea wool.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Sea wool? I want to figure out how the heck they make that. I'm going to go like watch something or whatever. So that's where you see the inputs from all the different members of the team come together during Milehans. address. I made kind of like a joke. I forget, what did, what did I refer to our, our size as a company as? Did I call it? An oil tanker or something? Or something like that? I called us, what, what,
Starting point is 01:10:29 did you remember what word I used, Dan? Let's see if he was listening. Oh, we're both trying to turn on Dan at the same time and the ends up turned off by it. You're better at it. I don't know. It's, I can't remember what you said. Was it mass? I don't know. It was something, it was something, it was something, along, it was something along those lines. Yeah, no, I don't remember. But one of the things that I was kind of emphasizing is that that's a key advantage for us, is that we have so many different inputs that go into our outputs. And sometimes that can feel like a too many chef's situation, and it can feel like bloat.
Starting point is 01:11:08 But I think that when it's done well, it actually really elevates everything that we do, whether it's video or whether it's physical goods or whether it's a streaming platform, or whatever else it is that we're creating. So, like, in a product like this, you can see Bridget's influence. It launched at a freaking reasonable time season-wise. You can see, like, Tony and Dave's influence in the marketing, in the fact that it's available concurrently at both of our distribution centers. You can see, like, Tatiana's influence in the materials choices.
Starting point is 01:11:42 You can see Alameda's influence in the fit. You can see, like, Lisa's influence in just the ease of, of wearing it and all that stuff. You can see my influence in that it's going to be comfortable and not drinking the wash, or at least, you know, not much. Yeah, it's just, it's lots of stuff. It's lots of stuff. Was it mass?
Starting point is 01:12:08 Yeah, it was mass. All right. Okay, apparently it was mass. Now I feel like I have to double check. I have my all hands address speech here. It's the kind of thing that I wonder if there's, some kind of an outlet where we can kind of like talk to the audience a little bit about some of the stuff that we talked about like the float plane update was so cool and i feel like you know the
Starting point is 01:12:30 viewership of jonathan's like you're you should give context so okay so jonathan from the floatplane team float plane was part of our all hands for the first time uh was that this week what a what a week uh uh uh float plane was part of the all hands for the first time this week so we got to show people like what we do. And I had the, I thought it would be a lot less interesting to have me just kind of stand up there and talk. So I mostly just introed like what flip plane is, just in case someone works in a business unit that's really far from float plane. It doesn't really know. And what we do at a very high level, very quickly and then try to get out of the way, because I thought it would be much more interesting to have, you know, the developers speak for themselves as to
Starting point is 01:13:17 what they do, what they have contributed, what things they're doing on. the platform. And then also have the infrastructure side get presented from Jonathan, who is currently the primary for infrastructure on Flowplane. And it was really good. But Jonathan's first video was, if I remember correctly, almost 11 minutes long. Which is a long time. He re-recorded it.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Well, not re-recorded. He re-rendered it with cutting a bunch of the gaps between talking out. It came down to, I think it was like a. minute and a half minute, or sorry, nine and a half minutes or nine minutes and 45, but still pretty long, especially in all hands context. And it was dense. It was dense and it was pretty deep in the weeds and it was really, really cool. But I was like, we're going to lose 90 people with this. Can we get a more like slimmed down version that we're still going to lose people with? And I think at a certain point, I had some, some comments on this of like, oh yeah, it was like, it was too
Starting point is 01:14:15 technical. And it's like, at a certain point that has to be okay. Because, I can't make it like if it just is really technical so like we you know try to make it approachable try to give real world scenarios like he talked about like what our infrastructure did when a power supply died in one of our servers and how the service didn't go down and how that blah blah blah blah so he tried to make it like relatable it's he tried to basically I think the way that we described it if my memory serves me correctly is we tried to take um like a math or physics problem that was just numbers and we tried to make it a word problem. So like you try to add context.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Instead of an object flying through the air with gravitational force and whatever else, it's a catapult and they're trying to hit a target and then you have to figure out the math for it. Like it makes it, it makes it, you can understand it more easily. So we try to take that approach. But we took the like uncompressed, you know, Jonathan version, which was much longer and we put it on like an internal thing. so people could see it.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And that actually got a decent amount of views. I was worried that maybe no one would watch it. Oh, they did. Like I wanted to watch it real fast. Really? Yeah. That's super cool. I got messages before I had settled down at my desk being like,
Starting point is 01:15:35 I thought the float plane team did a great job of their presentations overall, actually. Yeah. And I just, I was very happy. I feel like this was probably the most eye-opening all-hands we've ever done. for the people who work on the media side of the business. Because it was, I think, the first time that we haven't really talked about
Starting point is 01:15:59 the media side of the business at all. And it's not, to be clear, I don't, you know, I'm not going to say that the media side is not important. It's extremely important. It's the foundation upon which everything else was built. Let's be real here. But I think sometimes, it's easy for the media side
Starting point is 01:16:22 because I work in the media business day to day. It's easy for us to kind of go, hey, we're the center of the universe and like everything else is outside of our tunnel vision. You know what I mean? And like I felt like there were moments when I kind of like looked out over the crowd
Starting point is 01:16:43 and I saw people like really engaged. It did seem to be. I'm really interested in learning what like entire departments of people who have like been with the company for three to five years have been building all this time. And so I really, you heard Jonathan and Peter, right, eight plus? Mm-hmm. Like they've been around. We don't see them because a lot of the, a lot of people in the other BUs, even creator warehouse. They have their own unit.
Starting point is 01:17:12 a lot of them are off-site. So we literally don't see them. A lot of the folks on the media side don't even talk to them or think about them. But they're really, really important to keeping the lights on and keeping things going, right? Keeping the ship sailing. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. It was really cool.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I was pretty excited about it. I was a little nervous about it because, again, I'm... Well, you had multiple. teams presenting. You had Infra and Float Plain. Well, it was it was floatplane infra. Right. Okay. Sorry. Which does some stuff for local. Okay. So there was like the little shout out at the end of like, we also do all of this, which was like the hosting of all the services for for internal things. Yeah. Because the float plane and internal infrastructure slash IT teams blend a little bit now. Like Jonathan does work on both sides. And an A. AJ does work on both sides. Jonathan is more float plane leaning. AJ is more LM leaning these days.
Starting point is 01:18:21 But like there is shared resources across the... Or like smash champs or whatever. The whole intertangled web of companies. Yeah. And the infrastructure is like right at the heart of the intertangled web of companies. So like there is... As it would be, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:38 But that was predominantly a presentation on floatplane infrastructure. Right. Yeah. It was good, though. It was awesome. Yeah, I thought it was really good. And, like, the feedback that I've gotten on the long version was also, like, whoa. The partners of one of the people who presented on the dev side watched Jonathan's full version before the presentation and was just, like, vaguely interested at the beginning and ended up watching the entire, like, 10 minutes and was like, whoa, that was really cool.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Like, it's pretty good. It's tech tips. Yeah. It's like real tech tips, though. And they had also watched the dev version, but the dev version was, I think if you told people you were going to show them each one, most people are going to default to expecting the dev version to be more interesting. So I think that's why the infraversion being really interesting is getting so much attention. It's not that the dev one wasn't interesting. It was super interesting. It was very good.
Starting point is 01:19:38 It had Minecraft footage for attention. There was a lot of attention tricks. Yeah. Which I didn't coach any of those. That was great, though. That was all them. It was amazing. And I mean all three of them.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Like, yeah. Here, do we actually, do we, uh, what channel were those published to? Or is it Petit? I don't think I have access to Patet. It's Lianis Mini Group Internal. Uh, uh, oh, okay. Oh, this is great. And then these are, these are multi-upload posts so you can see the different versions if you scroll down.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Uh, maybe I can. I don't see it. I can't scroll down. That's fine. That's fine. I just need, let me see. Okay, so this...
Starting point is 01:20:21 Oh, the development one just has one version. That's why. Oh, yeah. The infrastructure one has two versions. So this will give you some idea of what apparently our internal presentations look like during our all-hands meetings. So showing the... Oh, yeah, these are some of the new user badges. So here's some Minecraft footage for attention.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Um, she's saying stuff during this time, but you're not hearing it. You're watching Minecraft. JK. J.K. You're hearing. Um, so yeah, this is, that literally played on the projector at our all hands for 100 people. Um, oh man, what a, we are, sometimes we're boring in corporate and then other times, we're like still a really weird company.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Like we had a, we had a, um, a barbecue today in the rain with like axe throwing. Like, what the fuck? You know? Yeah. This was an initiative from our new like, HR guy who's like, I would say a first impression of him, no offense, Tim, but would be like, you know, kind of stuffy and old fashioned. But like, there was cornhole. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I thought it was cool. Cool way to kick off a long weekend too. Yeah, yeah. So we did like an extra long weekend, which, yeah, that was a Tim initiative. He basically like brought it to me. He's like, here's the budget. Terry numbers for the Friday early dismissal barbecue. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:22:03 He's actually a lot more charismatic than that. Martina D. He said please release them to Flowplane. Oh, they'd need to scrub. to make sure that there's... They weren't intended to be shown and then Linus just ripped it, but that was probably fine.
Starting point is 01:22:19 It's also like, you know, these people didn't necessarily sign up to be shown to the world. They signed it to be shown internally. And when they were making them initially, that was the goal. So it might be possible
Starting point is 01:22:31 that we could do another pass and make them... Yeah, maybe. Maybe. We're not committing anything now. Yeah. And especially because these guys, like have a lot of work to do and already put a lot of work into this and so already a fairly
Starting point is 01:22:48 undersized team so like they're they're very busy i prefer the word talented sure they do a lot of output per person basically very talented yeah yeah oh did we actually do a com yet we did one did we do two yes you've done two we've done two oh sure Should we pick another topic? I honestly have zero memory of either of them. Nice. That's how you know it's good, because it sparks a good conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah. I always feel good when you do a calm for like an hour. That does happen. Yeah, it makes me feel good. Yeah, okay. Oh, I get right, because that means he curated a good one. Yeah, sometimes I get it wrong, and you're like, yeah, 30 seconds, and then we move on. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:23:36 We've done this before. Way to go, Dan. You've done bad, and you should feel bad. do all the time. No, I'm too much. You know, we're tripping over each other
Starting point is 01:23:47 on the Dan button again. No. This is fun. Cute. All right. Amazon has decided that same day shipping is not fast enough.
Starting point is 01:24:01 They've started rolling out Amazon now, a service aimed at delivering your order in 30 minutes or less in a handful of American cities back into December, and 15 minutes or less in parts of Brazil, Mexico, India, and the UAE.
Starting point is 01:24:17 This service is now expanding to additional cities. It uses specialized micro-fulfillment centers, also known as dark stores, for the deliveries, and these sites can stock thousands of items closer to customers than Amazon's typical warehouses. The company said that 30-minute deliveries will be available 24 hours a day in most areas where the service is available. Prime members will pay a $3.99 fee for Amazon now and an additional $1.99 fee for orders below $15, while customers without a prime membership will pay a $14 delivery fee, along with an extra $4 for orders below $15. This is crazy. Like, it's basically Uber Eats, but for like kind of anything on Amazon, I guess, that is popular enough that it's stocked in one of these micro-fulfellon centers.
Starting point is 01:25:08 a lot of stuff, considering if you look at Amazon statistics, it seems like people just sort of all buy the same... Sort by overall pick. Yeah. Yeah, which... And you know what? We've built PCs using the overall pick, using the top rated, using the Amazon's... What does overall pick mean?
Starting point is 01:25:25 We did a whole video about it. I forget. I did my thing where I do a bunch of research and learn about it. I write a script. I host the video. And then that part of my brain, withers and dies. And hopefully a new part grows in his place ready for fresh knowledge. I was talking very recently about how I was like trying to learn something.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I ended up watching my own video to try to learn it. Yeah, it was about the DirectX-12 and S-L-I stuff and Vulcan. Yeah. And I ended up watching the whole thing because I was like, oh yeah. Yeah. I had no memory that you could you could S-LI four of those cards after they turned off four-way S-L-I, you could still do it, but only for benchmarks. I had no idea that was a thing.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Completely forgot that. Just tons of stuff that's just gone. And no figment of a memory of it. It's just gone. And then I can remember so many stupid things. I've hosted like 8,000 videos, Lou. I regularly come across a video and go, I have no recollection of that.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Like at all. At all. And you know what? sometimes that's the most fun way to enjoy it. Are you okay? I had a very bad realization. AI generated videos being able to potentially like convince you that your past is different than it is. Oh, like, gasillate you?
Starting point is 01:26:54 Yeah. I don't know. It's good news when I'm going to show, Luke. Yeah, we're moving on. Let that part of your brain shrivel and die. Yeah. Anyway, are pretty adamantly against using Amazon. Would you consider if you needed something right now,
Starting point is 01:27:16 Amazon now, if you could get it in 30 minutes? Depends how mission critical it is. But I mean... Okay, it's toilet paper. No. You're on the toilet right now. We have a bidet at home. Nice. Is it the Ludwig one? No. Oh, okay. I got it before that. Some other one. Okay. All right, cool. Did you spring for heated? Yes. Yeah. But I sprang for heated. before like North America got really into them and it wasn't that expensive. And then they went. Really? I haven't I haven't shopped for one recently.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I got it before the the COVID toilet paper rush. Oh, so you were like way ahead of the curb. Yeah. Got it. And then the COVID toilet paper rush happened and everyone went, oh, bidetes. And then they went, I don't know if maybe they've come back down. But like, it's been naturally if you follow them.
Starting point is 01:28:08 that timeline. It's been years. So like, I don't, I don't know. I just remember, like, talking to people about how it was good. And then he'll be like, oh, yeah, well, they're, like, way too expensive. And I was like, huh? Does Ludwig still do bidet's? I don't think so. I mean, his site's still up. Oh, sold out. Sold out. Sold out. Okay, never mind. Doesn't, doesn't do them anymore. Okay. So just, I don't know, buy a bidet. Uh, okay, Tushy still does them. They do know that that's that there's a very different website and you know what it doesn't matter the point is um where's a heated one oh my good oh oh i hate it when dude websites like this it just makes me want to leave the website i clicked on something i was trying to look at your product and you popped up
Starting point is 01:28:57 this whole page that just fuck off i am trying to use your website and look at your product shop by model oh my gosh how many models of bidet do you need? Shop by feature, warm water. Here we go. Oh my God, go away. What just happened? I clicked warm water. Okay, now it goes. Dude, no. I am no longer showing this website because it's too
Starting point is 01:29:22 obnoxious. Yeah. Yeah, and my Amazon thing to be clear, I don't, I try not to like, no, preach it to other people too much or anything, but I have my reasons. I try to go to practically anywhere else. Obviously, I try to make it like smaller, smaller outfits, smaller stores directly from the company, if I can, is generally ideal. But sometimes it's not an option. But like I often would even rather go to like Best Buy. Just something. But, uh, yeah. The thing that drives me nuts is when
Starting point is 01:30:00 there's a company that is just an Amazon company, they only sell through Amazon. That's very annoying because then it's like well I didn't need to find an alternative or get it from Amazon anyways I needed a irrigation line adapter for my garden hose I wanted it in 30 minutes I would have done it because I had to wait like three days or something like that
Starting point is 01:30:37 to get the stupid thing and then that means that I had to go and manually water stupid hanging baskets and there wasn't like a home depot thing I don't have time to go shop. I had to order it online. Can you order online from Home Depot? Yeah. Their shipping's pretty expensive in Canada, though. Like, it generally doesn't make a ton of sense.
Starting point is 01:31:00 3D print it. So the plastic one that I had before was exactly why it failed, though. So I wanted to brass one. But good idea, though. Good idea. I like where you're going with it. All right. It's way easier for distribution.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I understand it's way easier to. for distribution. My, the like elevator pitch portion of why I, I don't really like it is the mass crushing of small business, whether that be retail outlets that resell things or honestly, just places making things. Like you look at people trying to make stuff in, in Western countries and the insane amounts of patent infringement that is on Amazon and Amazon's just complete blind eye to it happening. and then Amazon just watching what sells really well on their platform and then just making an Amazon basics.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Sherlock all the things. And just completely crushing competition. They are ruining people's dreams. It's like a very fancy way of saying it. But like shutting down small business, shutting down medium business, completely replacing, like somebody puts their life's work into a product and then Amazon just goes and there's an Amazon Basics version, making it the default for all the things, reorganizing their website to take out things like frequently bought with and basically only surfacing the top sellers in a category so that it is more well-tuned for them to do something like in Amazon Basics or more well-tuned
Starting point is 01:32:33 for them to sell those top spots. It's you hear about what they do to their workers, like just everything about it feels just really bad for society and everyone involved, including all of the customers. To me, again, you can pick your own battles. It's all good. It does not bother me when other people use it or whatever. I just try not to. I try to put at least some amount of effort into not. Everyone's got to have their own battle. I went to an event recently where I met, Oh man, I hope I don't get her name wrong. Was it Maya? Maya, yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Here she is. Better than Timi? Yeah, I don't show. So she talked at an event that I was at recently. And she actually, it's really funny. She was here in Vancouver. She did a TED talk. I was going to say, didn't she do a TED talk?
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, here it is. Super cool. Her thing is this animal sanctuary that probably the coolest thing about it is that humans don't go into it. No, I don't want to sign up. I don't know. Okay, whatever. The point is,
Starting point is 01:33:45 because they don't have to accommodate parking lots and walkways and safety for humans and a gift shop and like all this crap, she's able to take all the money that comes in to her, I forget how to
Starting point is 01:34:04 pronounce it, Elvius Sanctuary. She's able to take all the money that comes into it and just spend it on supporting the animals. And she's, she's got these, she was explaining how she's kind of, um,
Starting point is 01:34:18 uh, like personified, uh, or she's, she's created these sort of, um, what's it, what's it called when you give human-like characteristics to an animal?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Personification. Is it called personification? Help me out. If it's called something else, let me know. Alvayas is apparently how it's pronounced. Um, so yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:36 she, um, she, she, she, identifies the animals. Anthropomorphic? Is that it?
Starting point is 01:34:42 Anthropomorphism? Whatever, one of those two things. Either way. So people can like, people can like give this cow that, you know, has a name and has kind of like a personality, like a treat.
Starting point is 01:34:55 And she's raised like millions of dollars at this point. And it's super cool. And I think it's very easy to look at anyone, whether it's your personal cause of, you know, Amazon being kind of bad or her personal cause of animals and go, okay, well, like, hey, Luke, why aren't you doing anything about animals? And Maya, why are you buying stuff on Amazon or whatever?
Starting point is 01:35:15 But it's like, I feel like... Pick your own battles. She made a really good point at the end of her talk, which is just like, can we just, can we do something, anything a little bit to just be like a little bit better in some way and get away from the attitude that is, well, I'm causing all this damage in this other place. So it's... Therefore, everything is fine. Therefore, everything doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:35:38 consumerism under capitalism therefore I will abuse everything I can therefore nothing matters not so in my opinion the way to go maybe maybe Zach says I think you mean humanize yeah either way something basically she just uh she she she she helps people form and I'm putting these are my words not hers but it's like almost formed like parisocial relationships but instead of with her with like the animals at the sanctuary a cow who likes treats and want to support them and her theory is that if people like care a lot about this one wolf that's like super cool and has this great personality how do they know these details that when that when you know this type of wolf is now endangered like critically endangered that people will go hey no not those that's like that's like
Starting point is 01:36:24 my friend the wolf that I really like and that I feel a personal connection to and I just I just I thought it was I'm sorry I'm completely butchering it just go watch her TED talk okay yeah there's a live webcam. Okay, so you can't go there and you can't like walk around. Yeah. Oh, ads. Well, she'll take like influencers and streamers and stuff there just to help raise money for it and help. But the general infrastructure
Starting point is 01:36:47 for it isn't there. Yeah, the general infrastructure for the public doesn't have to be built so she can just spend everything on doing their conservation work. I just think I think it's super cool. That's sweet. Yeah, right? Animal ambassadors. That's what she calls them. That's awesome. Anyway, yeah, go go watch her TED Talk. Don't
Starting point is 01:37:05 listen to my version of it, but I just had a chance to say hi to her and what a great job she did during her talk at the event that I was at. And Evan and Caitlin were actually the moderators for her like fireside chat. They did a great job too. I was just like, wow, you guys did a great job. That's a rough act to follow. I had to give my talk like right after her. I did my best. That could be pretty tough. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. I'm a pretty good presenter, but it's just, yeah, yeah. It's always nice when you follow an easy act, you know? That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:37:42 That's all I'm saying. Well, what else? What else we got here? Was that even a topic? How do we start talking about that? Not a single clue. Unitary. Oh, sponsors.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Yeah, let's do sponsors. Oh, float plane announcement. Thanks, Dan. Where the devil is the float plane announcement? Well, look, we released two fan favorite. LTT videos early on float plane this week. The tech houses, I think this is actually the fourth video, Sammy. But we did another tech house video.
Starting point is 01:38:15 This time it's spring cleaning in the backyard of the tech house. No, the excavator is not clickbait. We actually rented a little excavator so that we could tear down the shed, move a bunch of, like, wood ties, figure out the situation with the pond. yes, from my past life, I do know how to operate an excavator. Fun fact, very few people know that. And then also, well, okay, he doesn't say which one the other one is, classic Sammy. Now we're going to release another video right now, live on WAN Show.
Starting point is 01:38:50 I'm going to go into the CMS, I'm going to release a video. It's going to be great. Oh, I'm going to use the beta version of the CMS. Should I use the beta version, Luke? No, not for that. No? No. No, not for that.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Okay. Okay. Not for posting. I guess I won't then. It's, oh, it's another episode of Setup Doctor, featuring our very own Reese, who you've probably seen in many of our videos as the production assistant for many other people's AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrades and other upgrades.
Starting point is 01:39:19 He's kind of an always, always the bridesmaid, never the bride of our upgrade series. But he's finally, finally getting his bride moment. And I had two people internally. So just like people who review, out of the handful of people who review the video, reach out to me and be like, this is the funniest video we've done in ages. I was like, okay, I really didn't actually notice it that much when we were shooting.
Starting point is 01:39:47 It was like a very chill shoot. It was just like me, David and Reese, who are kind of recurring outside cast members of upgrade series. So David has been the writer for quite a few people's upgrades. and then Reese is often the production assistant slash set of additional hands on these shoots, and then I'm often there. So without having to carry the energy or like adapt to the energy of whoever the subject was, it was just kind of core crew. And we didn't really have anything to do.
Starting point is 01:40:21 All we had to do was build a desk and then just like kind of organize a room. So we didn't really have much of an objective. And apparently the just like vibes of it were like peak LTT. I haven't actually watched it yet, but I will. Manaculate vibes. Yeah, so definitely go check that out. So that video is live. Finally, we have a video that Sammy is calling his magnum opus of floatplane exclusives.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Tech Roulette, an actual original concept by Sammy, where you put two people head-to-head in tech trivia. The loser gets a bullet in their Nerf gun and has a chance to pop their full water balloon above their head. is probably going to be a recurring series, and the first episode is Linus v. Luke. It's a jump 30 seconds. Oh, yeah, perfect. Oh, wait, no, that's not it. It's a jump 30 seconds in.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Okay. I think I should be allowed to spin it. Three, two, one. Whoa! I was actually pretty convinced I was going to go. Vesa. I think it's a party foul. I think the party power.
Starting point is 01:41:30 It's fine. I forget what it stands for anyway. Honestly, me too. The S is standards. I know that. E is engineering. V is... Is it versatile? Incorrect. Video electronic standard association.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Okay. All right. All I got was the S and the A. Oh, you pull that back this thing. Okay. I think that's on. It's hard to tell. You're so far off. It's going to miss. You keep putting it off when I let go, though. So now it's going like, it'll probably hit it.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Three, two, one. So lots of fun. three rounds. Feel free to go check that out over on floatplane. Get all this and more at LMG.G slash FPWAN. All right. What are we?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Oh, right, I didn't do the sponsors. The show is brought to you today by AMD. This month's AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade was Nick Harris from the Labs team. If you haven't watched the video yet, go check it out and give him some love. It was low-key, one of the funniest ones we've ever done.
Starting point is 01:42:40 He already had a lot of computers. So we had to get a bit creative about actually upgrading it. Like, look at all his computers. These are all before we started. So anyway, we kind of solved some issues around his networking. We did a small computer upgrade for him. We set him up with a super cool test bench. And this video strikes a really great balance between being
Starting point is 01:43:07 informative about tech and also just being pure chaotic entertainment. And this is cool. If you want to get an upgrade of your own, AMD is giving away a Ryzen 7, 9800X3D and RX9070XT bundle in the video description of that video. So go, go check it out. Luke, AMD has another question for us this month. Uh.
Starting point is 01:43:29 With GPUs getting more powerful every generation, is 4K gaming finally worth it? Or do you still think 1440P is the sweet, for high refresh rate goodness. Ooh. Man, I think this is going to be such an unfortunate answer. I mean, yep. The rest of the system is so much more expensive now
Starting point is 01:43:51 that I think it just doesn't matter. 1440 still reign supreme. Because like with the amount more that you're going to have to spend on your storage, the amount more that you're going to have to spend on your RAM, with the amount more that you're going to have to spend on basically everything. The overall, we've talked about this before, right?
Starting point is 01:44:12 If you want to look at the price of, you know, the performance per dollar of a GPU, it might be more accurate to consider the performance per dollar of the entire system at the lower GPU versus the performance per dollar of the entire system against the higher end GPU and how that shifts and how that relation works. I got them, boys. it's that continues to apply both perspectives are valid looking at the performance per dollar of just the card because if you already have an entire system yeah then that's the outlay that's what you're considering however when you're buying an entire system yeah the performance per dollar of the entire system
Starting point is 01:44:53 is what actually matters and chasing 4k and you might be interested in the performance per dollar of the delta like if i sell the card that i have and then buy this new card, the resulting price is this many dollars. How many more frames does that give me? Like, that might be interesting to you. No one asked me, but I'm going to give my answer anyway. I said this seven years ago, and I made that face. That's a face that of me exists on the internet. It got 5.1 million views because that's the message that resonated with a lot of people, and I still stand behind it unless
Starting point is 01:45:36 it is a priority for you. The difference now, seven years later, is that 4K gaming is good. Yeah. If you want to lay out that kind of money for it. Yeah. And, and
Starting point is 01:45:53 DLSS 4.5, let's be real here. if you have a 4K monitor, which has gotten a lot more affordable since I made that video, okay? If you can run it at 1440P, then you can turn on DLSS 4.5
Starting point is 01:46:12 and you can also run it at 4K. So it's less dumb, but I still think that to my eye, a high refresh rate, high contrast... We're talking about gaming at a computer with your monitor at a reasonable distance. 1440P monitor is still the sweet spot
Starting point is 01:46:30 and especially for competitive. And they did have the word competitive in their question. For competitive, 1440p is the max I'd go. I'd even still consider 1080p, but I'd prefer not to. 1440P is... Shout out CounterStrike gamers playing at 720 and below. Nice. Nice. The show is also brought to by Cape.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Time and time again, we see major telecom providers facing data breaches or worse surveillance scandals. Cape is America's privacy-first mobile carrier who is still offering reliable call service while also helping protect you from things like sim swaps and leaks. Similar to how a VPN and encrypted messaging apps can protect your data, Cape wants to protect you at the network level. Cape uses something called identifier rotation, which changes your IMSI every 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:47:23 So you look like a different subscriber to the network every day, making it harder for anyone to track you. subscribers to cape get additional phone numbers not just VoIP that will work for things like account verification without having to give their primary number out willy-nilly so it kind of reminds me of like those pseudonymous like credit card number services and every 24 hours cape deletes things like call and text metadata while you use their service so why not take control back of your number from your carrier and get 33% off your first six months of Cape with code land. This is yet another really cool sponsor of ours that happens to not be in Canada. I'm like, I was literally just looking at home. Yeah, I'm sorry. Come on. I know. Yeah, them and privacy.com are like two that I would immediately sign up for with my own personal hard-earned money immediately. Dude, the phone number for verification thing. That's not super cool. Would be really nice. That's super cool.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Uh, yeah. Most cool credit card things and most cool mobile plan things. Just never come north of the border. How long have we been live for? Holy crap. We've done like three topics. We,
Starting point is 01:48:50 dude, we have so many topics. What the crap is going on here. Okay, quick. Burn through a couple topics. That's not going to help. The new Steam controller screams the Wilhelm scream, which I did not just do.
Starting point is 01:49:04 If you drop it, if it's turned on, and if you're in big picture mode, that's cool. We have a short about it. You can check the short out on the YouTube's. Here, this is, uh, I can, I can shamelessly just play it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Because it's my channel. Yeah. Audio. Is it seriously not on by default? Sorry. Oh, it's, but it, but, Hold on. Wait for it.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Unmute it. I'm unmuting it. God. Okay, ready? Apparently, if you drop the steam controller, there's a chance. They can hear it? Yeah, okay, if they can hear it, I'm happy. Yeah, it's on now.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Good, good, good production value show. Apparently, if you drop the steam controller, there's a chance that you'll get a Wilhelm's cream out of it. I came to Elijah's house to drop his controller. What? Whoa, did it. First try. Oh, there we go. one in five.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Okay, it's about one in four. Apparently, if you drop the steam controller. This short is doing numbers. And I was talking to Luke... Foul content, dude. I was talking to Luke about this on the pre-show, but I'm just like, I don't know how to deal with this, man. Like, that was the lowest effort video
Starting point is 01:50:23 that I have made probably in the last five years. It's getting more views than, like, Scrapyard Wars. Why do I try? Why do I try anymore? There is something interesting in tech right now. There is a something interesting in tech right now. Look at your historical. 1.1.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Yeah. I mean, 9030. That one's actually taking off. That one's achieving escape velocity. Still very good. Yeah. 315. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:56 3.4. Yes, yes. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, no, I get it. I get it. It's just like, ugh.
Starting point is 01:51:06 That is shorts for you, they don't really count. Yeah. Well. Except they're still measurable and comparable. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's shorts versus shorts.
Starting point is 01:51:13 So he's not wrong. He's not wrong. And I mean, look, you can say they don't count, but I, sample size of not that many. I went to a, um, I, I've chaperoned a band event for one of my kids. And the young kids know who I, am and I pretty much promise you it ain't the long-form content yeah and so us having a foothold in shorts is us is us having that face time with that demographic of viewers we can't ignore it we're like we're sort of you know we're basically a product company at this point but we're we're a media
Starting point is 01:51:57 company like at our core at our foundation and so we can't just look at shorts and go like oh who cares if we get 300,000 views or 3.5 million views, you know, it doesn't matter. It's not real views anyway. No, we have to get out there in front of, in front of viewers, and we've got to get them familiar with our style and with our content, and we have to have a strategy there, and it's something that I'll admit that we've kind of struggled with. What now? Oh, hi, Josh and full point chat in all capital letters. Oh, my God, it just made my controller scream. Yeah, you have to have big picture mode open, if anyone missed that before. So big picture mode, it has to be on. And then if you drop it, it'll, yeah, it'll scream.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Pretty funny. Looked like about one in four. I got it to scream three times in 11 or something like that. The greatest phone ever is real and also American. After numerous delays and even rumors of being canceled, Trump Mobile says the T1 phone will be shipping next week. We have a full video planned on this, so we won't comment too much.
Starting point is 01:53:03 However, what we can do is we can watch this ad together. There's also a community note. We'll get to that. I don't know if you remember some of the earlier shenanigans around the T1 phone, but the first, I believe it was the first launch image was actually just a Photoshopped iPhone. Then they had an image of the supposed T1 phone that was a photoshopped galaxy phone in like a Spigin or Spiggin case.
Starting point is 01:53:33 that was just like Photoshopped gold, but actually, or maybe the Spiggin case was gold. I don't remember the details, but, but it was just like an image off of like Spiggin's website, but like Trump phone or something. So there have been a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:53:52 yeah, the Spiggin logo was visible. I think I remember that. I think I remember that. There's been a lot of people looking at all of the obviously fake pictures of this phone and going, yeah, this thing is never going to ship. But apparently, apparently something, definitely not those initial renders, because it's obviously not going to be an iPhone,
Starting point is 01:54:15 something is apparently going to ship. And I don't know what Twitter is doing right now, but I cannot play this. Oh, there goes. Oh, Lordy. So this is apparently it, except readers added context to this video. video is AI US flag has 11 then 9 stripes
Starting point is 01:54:36 back texture is inconsistent that is just that is just two of the things that are wrong with it there's another really good moment a little bit later here hold on wait for it there here what is happening here
Starting point is 01:54:48 what the what is it on a lazy Susan is it what is going on right now funky I put down a deposit ages ago I have no idea if I'm actually going to get one necessarily because I know who knows if they exist. I'm obviously not going to sign up for Trump mobile service. I'm in Canada. They don't even
Starting point is 01:55:10 have service here. They're using T-Mobile for their MVNO, their mobile virtual network operators. So they don't have cell towers or anything and they don't manufacture phones. They just... And the phone looking completely different now than originally is crazy. Like, I don't I don't even recognize, we're in the way, but I don't even recognize this, this, the phone. Like here, that doesn't. Yeah. Wait, what? You can just buy a random Samsung? Yeah. Because they, the mobile carrier does work. It's just an MVNO on T-Mobile. Oh, you can buy iPhones and stuff to you? Okay. Yep. Sure. The deals aren't good, but like, yeah. I mean, yeah, who expected them to be. Um, wild. Here, I'm from phone original photo. I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if I can find the original photo. Um, um, um, Uh, yeah, here we go. Here we go. So it has changed. Yeah, that's what I remember.
Starting point is 01:56:09 In appearance multiple times. This one was funny because this is just like, what even is this? Yeah. Like that's clear, this is clearly nothing. That's not, and I don't mean nothing like the phone brand. I just mean that's not anything. Yeah, I think that's the, that's most of the various iterations of it. Here's what was shown to the verge, a while,
Starting point is 01:56:31 back so the finished version does seem to look pretty close to this and it has gone through two rounds of certification now so there is pretty credible evidence that this phone will be a real thing uh here's the spiggin thing anyway we're we're planning a full video on the um on kind of the the whole history of this we actually uh got an got an interview with the uh verge writer who's been like a dog on a bone like on this every single week they have
Starting point is 01:57:10 they have posted an update they've requested comment from Trump Mobile been like hey so what's going on with the phone because it's been delayed multiple times back when they announced it in I think it was June of 2025 they said it was going to be shipping in September and that's when
Starting point is 01:57:26 I kind of went well this is obviously a complete scam and we'll never ship because there's no way that you could ship anything resembling a mobile phone in like three or four months or whatever. And they didn't. It looks like it's going to be more like 11 months. Oh, here's the Spiggin thing. Lawsuit incoming. They humorously tweeted because this is a, this is an image of supposedly the Trump T1 phone that still still has their logo on it. The whole thing is just an absolute clown show. And it'll be, it'll be hilarious to see what we ultimately get delivered.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Cartoon Bratt says I've been keeping track of this saga through Penguin Z, apparently. So good luck, everybody. By East One says the Trump phone is definitely shipping in September. We just don't know which September or if it's in this dimension here. Six or three says, I got to say, Linus, I do not. care about this news. Like, even if it sucks, I don't care. It's funny. Yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 01:58:38 Sometimes you just got to laugh at stuff. Yeah, it's... It's just... It's... What else are we supposed to do at this point, sir? Or, ma'am? Like, uh, you know, the head of state of the world's largest economy
Starting point is 01:58:57 it launched a scam phone. It's definitely interesting, if nothing else. Having a head of state be super active in business while serving is very interesting. Wasn't there something with like a peanut farm and some previous president? Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah. Forced to sell or something? Was that George Bush Sr.?
Starting point is 01:59:24 I have no idea. Who was it? Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter. Okay, not forced to sell. He had to put it in a blind trust. Yeah. Oh, it's not even my country's stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:34 I think for him blind trust did not mean my sons are doing it. I don't have a greater degree of separation. Zen Thoxin, though, brings up something that is not in the dock that I'm super excited about. The new Sony Xperia looks so freaking amazing. And because Google apparently is making moving the back button part of core Android, I am like, I think I'm going Xperia. Are we going to be Xperia Bros? Headphone Jack.
Starting point is 02:00:03 micro sd flagship phone all yours for the low low price of I think it's like 1800 US dollars US whoa does it cook
Starting point is 02:00:17 I don't know it the Experia 18 price hold on here here here here let me look it up let me look it up no notch which is my favorite feature it's so expensive Dan
Starting point is 02:00:29 are you getting one no I just I just got this seven. Yeah. I still owe you my six. Stop letting me forget. Fifteen a hundred euro. Oh.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Okay, what about it? What's cool? Tell me more. Sony camera. Pull up a GSM arena and have a look through. Sure. Okay, what is its name exactly? Sony Xperia 1V-111.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Seriously? Yeah, Experia 1-8. But the eight. I understand. The aid is in Roman numerals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it has a one in front of it. There's the one and the five and the one is the better one.
Starting point is 02:01:10 And then it has Roman numerals. So it's like Arabic one and then Roman. So, yeah. Glass front and back. Victus two on the front. Bro, it's just two grand Canadian. Don't worry about it. IP 68.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Okay. 120 hertz display. 1080P class. Okay. Sorry. I'm interrupting you again. My bad. I went to the Sony store.
Starting point is 02:01:30 I can see the two grand Canadian. 18 to the background, they're like, do you want $5? Hey, listen. Hey, listen. I've done more for less. You can take the $5 to wipe your tears. Yeah, sorry, I just thought that was really funny. I can just tell that you're going to like, oh man, it's only $256 at $2,000. Oh my God. Yes, but you can put that one terabyte is $2,600.
Starting point is 02:02:02 You're going to let me finish? But you can put an SD card in it. Yeah. So you can get the cheap one and put a one terabyte ST in it. Cheap is a word that I don't know if we should use. You can get the poor people one. And put an SD card in that.
Starting point is 02:02:13 That's crazy, Kay. It's so expensive. Too spicy, Dan. I'm obviously being facetious. What is wrong with you? Luke? You're not letting me finish. Android 16 with up to four major Android updates.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Up to. Don't worry about it. Qualcomm, Snapdragon 8 Elite, Gen 5. So cutting edge chips. Yep, so that's good. 16 gigs RAM. God, they look good, wow.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Triple camera system, all 48 megapixels, all the things. I don't see the, selfie cameras, 12 megapixels with SDR support. Stereo speakers, that's good. It better be Wi-Fi 7, tri-band, okay. Oh, dude. side mounted fingerprint oh take me now oh oh that's pretty fantastic just like they look really good I told you they're good do you get it I get naked for side side fingerprint scanner yeah yeah the like stonewash looking finish I will disrobe for you Sony looks fantastic um 5,000 million power battery 30 watt wired charging
Starting point is 02:03:24 15 watt wireless reverse wireless bypass charging dude bypass charging underrated feature very cool Bro, the ability to plug in the headphones is so sick. You guys get it. I've always gotten it, Dan. I just, they haven't had the ability to move my freaking back button, which I need. I have small hands, Dan, and we're all just going to have to deal with that. Up to two days of battery life. I mean, four years of health battery?
Starting point is 02:03:53 What is that? I think that just means that... Based on simulations of repeated USB charging and discharging with the same type of battery. Battery health depends on usage. Yeah. So up to four years of two days worth of batteries. I mean, if a device doesn't have like a solid four years of the battery not sucking, then that's pretty terrible.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Play Pokemon Go, I'll torch that. Okay, that's fair. Oh, whoops, okay. I mean, I was going to say, I bet I could get two days out of my fold seven if I really tried. I don't know if I could get two days, but like I'm at 71% today right now. Like I feel like Android battery life, as long as you're a character, about which apps you install and how many notifications you allow has actually been pretty good for a while now. This phone is torched. I have done effectively like nothing on my phone today. I was desktop the whole time at 64%. I didn't open Pokemon Go. I didn't do I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 02:04:49 All right. 64%. The battery on this, if I could do like a battery life assessment, it's done. I don't which is like okay. It's not. So past through would be great for you then. Maybe even, worth 2,000 Canadians. I couldn't even finish the sentence. Oh man. That's so much money for a phone. Yeah. This is just it. Do they have another phone this generation that isn't insane?
Starting point is 02:05:20 No, you can have my last generation one. Okay, look at this. Look at this video. Look at the finish. They're really pretty. It looks really nice. Yeah, I want one. I don't often feel that way about phones.
Starting point is 02:05:30 I want one. like the five. I really want one, dude. What phone? It's an 8 pro. But it's not, I don't, I do not think it's the 8 pro's fault. I have done. You know, we know Sony people.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Unnatural things with this. I mean, I'm already trying to convince Sony to send over a BVM 310. I don't think, uh, I had Sony sign my phone. You had Sony sign your, okay, sorry, what story time? LTX, we had a Sony booth. Yeah. And I went, oh my God, I love your phones. Can you sign my phone?
Starting point is 02:06:00 And I had all of them signed. with their Sharpie. That's actually pretty sweet. And then I also met them. What's the one in Vegas that we do in January? CES. CES. I also found a bunch of them at a party and was like,
Starting point is 02:06:12 I had my phone. And they liked that. They thought it was weird and really enjoyed it. It is weird. Yeah. They remembered it. That's cool. Why do you want this?
Starting point is 02:06:22 What was this for? Color correction? Oh, okay. It's just the coolest monitor on the face of the earth. What does it do? It's a real monitor. What does it not do, Luke? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:06:31 anything. Give me the tips. It is the god king of displays. Why? Because it takes any input in any color space with functionally perfect accuracy. It's the room temperature room. Yeah. Of monitors.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Yeah. It's the room temperature room. Yeah. It's like the reference. You don't see all the awards? I see the awards. Yeah. My God.
Starting point is 02:07:02 She's thick. Oh, I like buttons, I like knobs. I'm getting sold. Wow, that is a lot of crazy inputs. Okay. It's, until you've seen it, you've never seen content. Wow. It's like, it's like putting on glasses when you needed glasses and seeing the world for how it was supposed to look.
Starting point is 02:07:30 4,000 nits peak bright. I love trying to sell, yeah, I love trying to sell monitors through like video that someone's watching on another monitor because you have to try to like try somehow to explain the difference but there's, you can't really. No, but I mean, this is a pretty good representation because you can, you can see that instead of blowing out the details, you can like see the light. Yeah. You can see the light, Luke and the color. Oh, the color. Oh, oh, I'm getting chills. Just thinking about it. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:08:02 So what will you use this for? To make a video about it. And then? I don't know. I mean, they're probably not going to let me keep it. Are you going to game on it? That's fast pixel response. You bet your ass I'm going to game on it.
Starting point is 02:08:16 I mean like, is this going to become your monitor at home? I think that probably Fast pixel response. Probably the production team would riot. If I took this home selfishly. That's why I mentioned like so they would use it for color correction, I guess. Oh, we could use it as a playback monitor for you guys at Wansett. Jeep, no.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Piss off every single department. And us probably. Yeah, no. I just want to make a video about it because it's so cool and it's better than anything that exists. All right. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Have you seen reference monitors before, Linus?
Starting point is 02:08:59 Yeah. We did a video on one from Flanders a little while back, and that was... Oh, the Flandish Scientific. Yeah, that was quite eye-opening for me. And this is a new generation of reference display, and it's unreal, dude. I've seen it in person once now, and I just... We have this unlisted footage on Short Circuit that is just like, HDR footage shot in like this weird tree house thing in the woods
Starting point is 02:09:32 and I put it on the reference monitor and I was just like, I've never seen this footage before. Not like this. It's like, oh. It's like. And even they can have a normal power connector. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:50 It's. My favorite things about it is that it has buttons and knobs and a normal power connector. It's like an experience I had fairly recently where listening to a particular headphone was like hearing familiar songs for the first time. Fairly recently. Yeah. Is this a... So Unitry built an absolute unit of a mech. Check this out. Unitry is kind of a crazy company. Yeah. In W Canada you've already got me. Like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go eat there probably this weekend just chill um freaking what yes that has to be like a seat yeah it is a seat or you cannot you can also operate it with nobody in it or you can get in it um it just
Starting point is 02:10:41 supports itself while you yeah so go watch the video this is unit trees this is unitries story let's let them tell it. But I said recently on WAN Show that there's a certain North American company that seems to be betting its entire future on humanoid robots. The battle is already lost. Like I can't believe how affordably Unitary is making its robots accessible. Have you looked at the price of the mech yet? Okay, cool. So obviously it's a lot of money, obviously.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Yes. But their humanoid robots have already like leapfrogged many other competitors in terms of accessibility, in terms of price per performance. How much would you guess that that mech cost? Just based on the little that you've seen of it. And with a little bit of information, it being strong enough to punch cinder block walls over. it can walk on not just two legs it can also walk on four legs
Starting point is 02:11:53 and can be operated both with and without a pilot what would you guess that something like that costs it ought to be north of 100k I have no context at all who would for any pricing of any of this stuff um part of me is going like north of 250
Starting point is 02:12:15 but then it's unitary so I'm trying to game the system a little bit If I had no context of the company, I think I'd be going north of 250 because I have a modicum, not that much, but a modicum of context of the company. What if I told you Boeing made it? You know, or like Northrop Grumman or whatever, like, one of the big, like, military guys. 750. If it's American military complex, I'd jump there, like, immediately no matter what. What do you think Unitri is charging for it?
Starting point is 02:12:46 $1.99. Okay. It's actually closer to your initial guess. Okay. Okay. but you can like buy it apparently for 650,000 US dollars, which to me seems pretty, pretty cheap. I like, I think your estimates for what like an American military industrial complex company. Probably low.
Starting point is 02:13:11 You're probably on the low side. Probably 1.5 to 2 million per at least. Apparently none sold. I mean But that's the reason why I think it's so expensive Is there's probably like four Can't like where where would you even If they were mass making this I bet you they could get it cheaper
Starting point is 02:13:32 Unitary Mecca Okay like can you even buy it yet Unitry Mecca like I don't actually I don't actually see it for sale yet GDO1 GDO one GDO one
Starting point is 02:13:47 Like are you guys sure that nobody bought it yet Corey says I mean nobody could buy it. Launches GD-O-1 starting from, okay, it's like a giant transformer come to life, a blah, blah, blah. If you have $650,000 and don't buy this giant mecker robot, what are you doing?
Starting point is 02:14:05 Does anyone actually have like an availability timeline for this thing? Oh my God, this site. What just happened? I was scrolling and then the whole article went away. Well, anyway. Yeah, I know. Good luck with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Is it indexed on Google yet? Important question asks on high-cage. Who actually even needs this robot? What would you actually use it for? Knocking over unsecured cinderblock walls is not a valid use case. I could see... Okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:14:42 Oh, here. I could see like a performance spectacle, like, arena or something having one of these. Like, if I was like a monster truck traveling show or something. I could see this mecca being like part of our like intermission show.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Or it does something. You know, or we like we jump a truck over it or whatever. Like I could see it being a like a fancy set piece. Digital B11 says construction maybe. I give it another like 10, 20 years. And then yeah, I could I could totally see something like this being used as just like an avatar style like
Starting point is 02:15:20 like just grab stuff and move it around or whatever but not not today not today uh what else we got cranes do be pretty good for that even because of like clearing obstacles this is true cranes are cranes are like pretty good you don't always need to move like a whole palette of whatever it is though and sometimes it might sometimes you need to go like down into a pit that doesn't have a ramp oh definitely like there's there's i think you i don't think it's going to be instead of a crane Yeah. I think this will be in addition to a crane. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:57 Orklift also do be pretty good. Sir Soi descent says, as an oil field knuckle boom operator, this would be a way to disassemble structures. Now that's interesting. So for construction, yes, crane. For deconstruction, strong mecca actually may be pretty useful. Yeah, okay. Sure. That makes sense.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Now Wiley Giraff says to unload the. the crane. Oh, yeah. Actually, that's like super valid. Like the final, the last mile. I could see that more so. The last few meters carrying something with this could be very practical. What else? Beggy says $650,000 US dollars just for a set piece. Sounds like someone has FU money. Yeah, I don't think there's going to be a lot of that. If you're, if you're using it to make money and it's like you're the only place where someone can come see it or you, You charge people, like if you charged people $1,000 for the experience of trying it, and you could manage to make a viable business model out of that, you only have to put 650 people in it before you get your investment back.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Like it's, I could see some commercial use of it possibly making sense. If I had more context of, I'm on the Robo Store official partner of Unitry now. Yeah. And I'm seeing some of the prices of some of the things. I think I would have been more accurate. Yeah, I could tell you. I think it would have done the shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:29 Yeah, because I think, like, what was Tesla saying that they anticipated Optimus was going to sell for when they were doing their, like, revenue projections? I thought they said 100K. Optimus. I mean, they've thrown different numbers around. But I also have no idea. And I also lightly based it off of the Optimus being 100K thing, but I don't know what it's supposed to come. Projects the eventual retail price of Optimus, Humanoid Robot, will be
Starting point is 02:17:52 between $20,000 and $30,000 at mass scale, according to AI overview. And I mean, like, good luck with that. But part of that problem is the whole mass scale thing. That's all I was saying, like, if Unitree's made, like, four of those, of course they're going to cost that much or way more. But if they're trying to go through, like, mass manufacturing it, okay, they have their own store.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Cool. Uh, I got it. Meanwhile, Unitri has already leapfrogged them in terms of price to performance. Like, it's kind of comic. that anyone is taking that kind of pricing estimate seriously. Where is... I don't think this is a store. I think it's just their official site.
Starting point is 02:18:32 Yeah, I don't see the... I'm not getting the pop-up to translate the page. I don't know... Oh, just go... How to force it. ...the dots, top-right dots. And then most of the way down... There is.
Starting point is 02:18:45 There is. Yeah. It's an English. Hello? English. There you go. There we go. So I will just, I will literally just, I've never tried to find it.
Starting point is 02:18:57 I just reload the page and then usually it comes up. Yeah. Okay. User Square, action library. Where the bloody heck are the products? I don't think this is a store. I think it's like you have bought the thing and now you need to like do stuff with it. Place.
Starting point is 02:19:15 Oh, interesting. You can like get actions and stuff. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah. I have not, I've not played around with a Unitary robot yet. I should. I want to. There's ones on the Robo Store that look pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:19:31 I shouldn't say I haven't played around with them at all. I did fight one. There's one on sale right now. What you got? The G1. Yep. The low, low price of 10 of those phones. Nice.
Starting point is 02:19:46 Solid. I think they have a new one coming that looked pretty exciting. So, um, is it, is it, is it, is it, um, I can't remember it came up in, um, it came up in writers meeting a little while ago. Three kilogram arm load. So you can do a lot of like chores around the house like that, but sort of, not really. Not a ton more. You could do the dishes. I mean, well, oh, sure, with that strength of like motors, yes, but not with the dexterity. that they have now. Ah, yeah, yeah. And, like, the capability they have now.
Starting point is 02:20:26 I was specifically only talking about its ability to, like, bear load. Yeah, sure. I did this, though. This was fun. Yeah. Didn't you win this? Spoilers. Oh.
Starting point is 02:20:41 So this is the control scheme. Yeah, punch. Oh. We made it look a lot more exciting in the edit than it really was. But not many people watched this video. This did not resonate. I thought it was kind of a fun video But anyway
Starting point is 02:20:58 I think it's like space travel I guess I'll just drop Steam controllers instead Yeah apparently I think it's like space travel though If people aren't involved It's like yeah But I was involved
Starting point is 02:21:09 Yeah but you were just outside Oh so you want me to actually fight the robot If you were actually boxing that guy It probably would have gotten a bunch of views I see Well yeah I know float playing crowd Of course you guys watched it you guys watch all the things.
Starting point is 02:21:25 But it's the broader, like, YouTube audience that just did not engage with it. Wiley draft, I'd pay $5 to watch it. Okay. All right. So now, now hold on a second.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Oh, my gosh. If we could raise 20 grand for me to fight a G1, I bet we could raise 650 grand for me to fight a me to make. Oh, I mean, it would break you. But I, what a way to go. How, how would it be? to knock over an unsupported cinder block wall?
Starting point is 02:21:57 I mean, it would, it would be hitting pretty hard. Like, if you got hit by something that size that was moving with enough speed in coordination to knock over... Yeah, it would not be good. Yeah. Like, it would, like, break your bones. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Like, if they were your face bones. Maybe. Oh, I don't think that's a maybe, sir. I think that's a pretty solid, yeah, would break your, break your face. Well, it depends like, is this thing hitting, I'm losing the physics terms for this, moment of action is stuck in my head.
Starting point is 02:22:39 But it's like, can it, like, do this in order to push the center block wall over it? Or is it like... Oh, like a momentary application of force. Because that's what is going to break your bone, right? Impact force, impulse force, kinetic momentum. Is it more of a push? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Is it more of a push? or is it more of a strike? It's in the video, okay. Let's find it. All right, here, we're just going to cheat and watch it. Okay, ready? Yeah. Oh, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:23:08 No, I went to the wrong spot. Because I am kind of interested. Okay. You're interested in me fighting it? Notice how, no, no, no. Notice how high up the wall they interacted with? Yeah, like, there's a lot of different things. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:23:18 Hold on. Here we go. Here we go. Yeah. Okay, that's a strike. That is a strike, but it's also like the very, very tipy top of a very tall and thin wall. It's not, it's not that it's not really cool. That would break your bone. It's not that's not really cool. That would break your jaw.
Starting point is 02:23:34 It's not that it's not really cool. For sure. It's not really cool. I just... I wouldn't want to get hit by it. No, I'm not saying I want to get hit by it. Yeah. Like it, it struck it.
Starting point is 02:23:45 It did not push it over. That we can say for sure. And yes, it was very high up. You guys are 100% right. All right, what else we got today? Oh, Dan wants me to do more sponsors now. Guess what, Dan? No.
Starting point is 02:24:02 Owned. Okay. Got them. Owned. Cyber security tip of the day. Install a Russian language pack on your computer. We were talking about Lori wired a little while ago, and she's super-based. So I was just reading a tweet from her.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Earlier this week, Microsoft Threat Intelligence posted to Twitter that they were investigating the mistral AI. How the devil do I pronounce this? Oh, geez. I've only read it. Pi. Sure. Package. I'm going to go with PP. V2.4.6 compromise.
Starting point is 02:24:43 In their post, they noticed that the attack avoids Russian language environments. Lori Wired retweeted the post with, The most low effort, high reward thing that you can do for security is installing the Russian language pack. Not even joking. It's ridiculous how often this prevents execution. this was also something that was noted by Brian Krebs previously with ransomware samples discussion question Luke do we need to install the Russian language pack on all work systems immediately uh as far as my language goes or as far as my understanding goes we're probably
Starting point is 02:25:21 fine but it's not a bad idea it's not a terrible idea it might also be super freaking annoying why though because you can install a language pack and then just never look at it or think about it again. Is that one of those ones where it can change... No, the language pack wouldn't change your keyboard, eh? Would it change your keyboard? Nope. Okay. That I mean, yeah. And you can just set windows to your primary language being what it is, but they'll
Starting point is 02:25:44 just, apparently, these malware will just be like, oh, is Russian? Maybe do not install, whatever. I'm not going to try and do a Russian accent. In Soviet Russia, malware installs you. Like, whatever, don't worry about it. so I just wanted to
Starting point is 02:26:04 throw this out there for the WAN show watching people according to Lori and Brian Krebs and also Microsoft Thread Intelligence install a Russian language pack which back in the day used to be something that you had to pay for
Starting point is 02:26:19 but nowadays is something that you can just go into Windows Update and you can just select a language pack and install it and apparently it will reduce your it will reduce your exposure to cybersecurity threats, which seems like a zero hassle,
Starting point is 02:26:38 high reward, potentially thing to do. And I can't wait for people to start getting viruses because I start Googling Russian language back for Windows. Okay, just get it in Windows update. I'm trying, how do I, okay, advanced options, maybe. I don't really use Windows much anymore Okay here Sorry it's not Windows update
Starting point is 02:27:05 It's in time and language, add a language And then you just go for There you go All right, there you go Add a language It's that easy, it's that fast Go for it Hey, here's another cool one
Starting point is 02:27:22 We had an LTT Labs article go up I think it was either today or yesterday sick they're all sick what's up with upses we have one since then by the way our company has always had many UPSs around
Starting point is 02:27:38 for the convenience and business case if not suddenly is losing a ton of work thank you Lucas that is a very matter of fact observation so blah blah blah etc we we want to check them out further but have been wary of connecting them to any measurement equipment
Starting point is 02:27:56 considering the high voltages involved. Despite that, we're throwing caution to the wind to check out some UPSs from around the office. So it's not a comprehensive look at, you know, which UPS is the best UPS. But it's more of a like laying the groundwork for what are they, what do they do, what might be characteristics of one that could be more desirable.
Starting point is 02:28:24 and it's kind of like a primer on us taking the time to grab some measurements, make some cool visualizations, and maybe expand on it further if this is something that people are interested in learning more about. The first thing that I said when I saw Lucas's preliminary work on it was like, oh, that should be an LTT video. Like, we always say on LTT you should have a UPS. We never tell you which one to buy because I've never been comfortable enough other than saying like, yeah, I don't know, get an APC or an Opti UPS or an
Starting point is 02:28:59 eaten. Like it'll probably be fine. Like any of the big three brands are probably okay. But I don't actually know which one is better or like how much you have to spend to get like a good one. I don't know if we're actually doing it. We do we do lots of different things and we change our mind in direction often. But I was talking to Lucas in relation to this article about how Scrapyard Wars used to be such a nightmare here. Because you and I would test if in the offices and be working on our systems in the offices, then have to come out into the warehouse, usually the workshop set, but let's just say warehouse in general, and like, you know, benchmark them against each other, and then they would start failing. And you and I would both always swear that our systems
Starting point is 02:29:42 were stable. Then we'd go back inside to work on them and they'd be stable again. The biggest one was when it happened with Austin Evans. Yes. His system was apparently stable when running off of a UPS. and then... Well, it was stable when running off of the wallpower in the office. Was it? Okay. And then was stable when running off a UPS in the warehouse, but not when running off of the wallpower in the warehouse.
Starting point is 02:30:04 That's right. Okay. Yeah. So I was poking and being like, it could be kind of interesting to go check out those plugs because I don't they've changed much. Yeah, I don't think that transformer has ever been replaced. I doubt it. So I'm assuming that the in-office ones are still... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:21 better because we always referred to it as like dirty power and that was enough for me to understand that power bad this power good but that's it i don't understand beyond that really what's going on yeah it's the like purity of the sine wave no like i get i get the vague concepts how long of a how much of a delay there is in the switch over to battery power like there's a bunch of things that like why is it better in there and worse out there um i think those two spaces are running running off of different transformers. Because that office space is two blended units. And one of the transformers is more loaded
Starting point is 02:30:59 than the other one, if I recall correctly. It was just when we were converting it. Rod said, and I had a crazy boot issue during Scrappard Wars and all of a sudden it started working. Yeah. Like there's something going on. Well, we, that set has a UPS that lives on it permanently now. So the power to the table is always running through UPS now.
Starting point is 02:31:18 So we haven't had any problems in a long time. but yeah, I'd be very curious. Man, maybe if the UPS content goes well, we can move into a building transformer content. So we can find the best building transformer and replace them. Yeah, probably not. For the seven people that'd be interested. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:34 I mean, hey, like, if I was a contractor, then I'd be very interested to know how bad the cheap transformer that I'm still definitely going to use is. That's the problem. Anyway, go check it out at LTT. It's a really good read. And we've even launched an article since then.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Oh, what? Seven hours ago. I missed that. What's the new one? Two is better than one. Oh, on the B60. You knew about this one. You might just not have known the time
Starting point is 02:32:03 because it released today. Yeah, the labs articles are coming strong and fast, so check them out. Yeah, this thing's cool. It's been a long time, a long time since I've seen a dual GPU card like this.
Starting point is 02:32:18 Yeah. Intel Arc Pro B60 dual 48 gig turbo Turbo I like that turbo's in there That's sick Turbo Back turbo All right Dan I'll do the other sponsors now
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Starting point is 02:34:24 Apparently there's some drama with like The plugins for Twitch chat Like stuff happening on this stream or something like that Does anyone else have any context for this? No Not even slightly I have no idea what you're talking about Is it is it
Starting point is 02:34:42 What's Twitch? Stream elements Is that it? Stream elements? Okay. Stream elements drama. Stream elements. Is stream elements in trouble? Stream elements shutting down.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Yeah. Yeah. Stream elements and talks with potential acquirers to avoid impending bankruptcy. And he was like pretty upset about it because apparently the alternative to it is like not very good or something. And a lot of people are like, oh, well, I would have given more money to stream elements if I'd known that they needed money. but then like they clearly didn't but then like stream elements apparently raised like and this is from Elijah so I don't know if this is true but they raised a hundred million dollars and they've burned through that in the last like three or four years so I don't know how they managed to burn through that
Starting point is 02:35:33 much money doing like I don't know things like happening on your screen with Twitch chats I mean I guess the API cost would probably be reasonably high there's but like The whole thing seems like a giant boatload of fail, so feel free to go look into that if you want a rabbit hole. But it's not in our notes today because it's not good news when. In other good news, though, MIT researchers have revived a 40-year-old triangular zipper concept that is now made possible by 3D printing. Researchers at MIT's computer science and artificial intelligence laboratory built the Y zipper, a three-sided zipper, that snaps three floppy 3D printed arms into a rigid triangular tube using a flex rigid transition mechanism enabling the zippers to interlock. The concept dates back to 1985, patented by MIT professor William Freeman, but manufacturing couldn't be done until modern 3D printing caught up.
Starting point is 02:36:38 It works because triangles are inherently rigid, so same principles like bridges, trusses, and cranes. Software lets users design what the zipped shape become. and you can make a straight rod and art to coil or screw like twists. So come... I'm not going to lie, I don't really understand... Check this out. Oh my God. What for?
Starting point is 02:37:00 And I would love to see an application of it. It's really cool. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. The Y zipper. Oh, there's some cool examples. Luke's first question. Why?
Starting point is 02:37:14 Why? There is a pretty cool example at like, one minute-ish, almost one minute, 50 seconds? Uh-huh. The tent? Yeah. You just kind of zip down the rigid poles? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:31 It's kind of neat. I don't know, man. It seems pretty cool. Stuff like this is just neat. I'm not saying like it has to have like a really strong reason, but I would just love to see someone find like a really good application for it just to see what they do. So the entire system, arms and slider, is 3D printed from call. polymers. They tested PLA for better load bearing and TPU for more flexibility. And the video demo includes
Starting point is 02:37:56 an adjustable wrist cast that can be tightened or made loose easily, mechanical blooming flower for art and design, a quadruped robot with legs that retract, lowering the robot's body to get it under obstacles in front of it, and as rods to deploy a tent. Our discussion question is, if a 40-year-old zipper concept can be revived today, what other failed or forgotten his historical patents do you think are waiting for modern tech to bring them to life? Let's break out Leonardo's drawings, dude. I know, right? I think probably my favorite,
Starting point is 02:38:32 um, my favorite old, um, technology idea that didn't work out is this thing. This thing is crazy. Yeah. And this is a, I think this is, I think this is the video.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Yeah. Yeah, this is a great video and you should go watch it because this thing was real. The why? This was working. The why for this one was efficiency, right? Because you have less wheels on the ground so it's less friction. No, it was cost. Well, because it's cheaper to lay a single rail than two. I thought it was like effectively fuel conservation. No, no, not that. It was it was the initial laying of the track. And the way that they do like cool animations and everything for how all of this worked, like you can, here, you can see like hints as to sort of how the thing worked. Yeah. I'm not going to show you everything. It used like pneumatics and stuff. It was so flipping cool. You guys should go watch this video on primal space. Uh, incredible video, but pretty much the reason it doesn't work
Starting point is 02:39:45 is it used, uh, to self-balance, it used a giant spinning mask. mass that's like okay yeah a lot of energy yeah yeah scary amount of energy so the opposite of what I was thinking because now you have to spin this giant freaking thing um it's more just like if anything goes wrong yeah train crash now there's this enormous mass flying around yeah yeah I'm someone was talking about gyroscopically stable things I am probably
Starting point is 02:40:19 getting my motorcycle in like a week. Oh, or two. There you go. Maybe two. The part that was supposed to arrive, I think I gave you guys an update on this a little while ago.
Starting point is 02:40:29 The part that was supposed to arrive was like C&C overseas. And the guy calls me earlier this week and he goes, or like I texted him. He's like, hey, do you have time for a call? Which is never good news. And he goes, look, the part that I've been waiting for, like for two months to finish this project, it arrived.
Starting point is 02:40:48 And the hole for like the ignition is in the wrong spot. It doesn't work. And I was like, oh, well, like, how complicated is this part? Like, I have, like, a $40,000 C&C and, like, a handful of operators for it. He's like, you got to be shitting me. And I'm like, yeah, no, no, like, I got my guys. And, like, we've got, like, I think it's like five axes or something. He's like, you got to be fucking shitting me.
Starting point is 02:41:12 And I'm like, yeah, no, I mean, do you want me to just put you in touch with one of my guys? And you can, like, show them the part. And, like, so Sebastian, uh, from the creator warehouse team, I was like, hey, look, just like, I don't know, give me like your contractor rate. This is not work. So, you know, it's not work. So whatever. We'll work it out outside of work.
Starting point is 02:41:31 But like, is this something that you want to, that you're able to tackle? He's like, oh, yeah, sure. So he, so, so like, Vance went and got it. So that was one day. By the next day, Sebastian had 3D printed a mock up of like a fix for it to like make it to, like, make it mount properly. And then Sebastian on his way, we had, we had early dismissal Friday today. so he like stopped by today
Starting point is 02:41:54 and is like talking about the solution with the motorcycle shop and then figures he can probably like make it by like next week and so then they just have to do final assembly he says it looks sick I haven't seen any in progress yet because I was like no no I want to be surprised
Starting point is 02:42:09 Sammy is apparently going to do a float plane exclusive of me taking delivery of this bike after three years and I want to make it really really clear this is not the shop's fault yeah it was mostly painting yeah mostly it just took me forever to paint it and I did some stuff wrong
Starting point is 02:42:26 and I got some paint and some threads and various things they have probably contributed a handful of delays but the vast bulk of it was me and honestly I'm just impressed that they've stuck with me for this long to get this thing done so I'm very excited to have my bike back do you want to pick a topic
Starting point is 02:42:44 yeah let's keep it in the 3D printing world innovative startup pioneers 3D printing with recycled glass new binder jet process combines powder with adhesive agent in layering technique. Vitroform 3D is a Knoxville startup tackling the 8 million tons of glass U.S. landfills receive yearly by 3D printing with recycled post-consumer glass. Unlike conventional recycling, their process skips energy-intensive melting and isn't picky about color or grade.
Starting point is 02:43:16 Really, it's not picky about color. Well, you can be. you can sort by color, but you don't have to. So you could just do this. Okay, neat. Their patent-pending binder jetting technology, what a sentence,
Starting point is 02:43:31 works like this. The waste glass is ground into a fine powder. There's a thin layer of glass powder spread across the build spectrum. Platform. Not sure where you got that word from. Not a single clue. Inkjet style nozzles deposit a binder slash adhesive,
Starting point is 02:43:47 only where materials should bond. based on that 3D model and then repeat layer by layer to build the 3D object. The finished piece is then fired in an oven like that makes sense, like pottery to set its final shape. The end product is classified as engineered stone. I mean, yeah, glass is just rock, right? Yeah, no, that makes sense. It's just interesting.
Starting point is 02:44:09 Roughly 90 to 95% recycled glass and 5% to 10% polymer binder. Turning the binder's chemistry, tuning the binder's chemistry was the core of the R&D challenge and the process works with almost any powder, metal, ceramic, or glass. Wow, interesting. They're backed by the U.S. Department of Energy to develop fire resistant cladding as a next-gen building material. Neat. Actual recycling is cool. There is a lot of, we're going to recycle this straight into the landfill. Yeah, or straight into a container that we try to ship overseas that they then send back. Yeah, or that. Yeah. Yep. There's a lot of that. going around. There's a ton of that going on. So, uh, actual recycling sounds awesome.
Starting point is 02:44:54 Our discussion question is, given the severe health hazards of handling microscopic glass powder, is this something that should probably stay an industrial technology as opposed to trying to scale it down for consumers? Oh, like 3D printing at home? Yeah, I think, I think this is maybe not for general consumers and that's probably okay. That's, that's fine. Not everything has to be in our home garage lab yeah but maybe
Starting point is 02:45:24 all over DK yeah in float plane chat based take glass in general pretty cool it's pretty freaking cool glass is amazing
Starting point is 02:45:32 yeah have you ever done like glass blowing no but I've always thought it's pretty interesting do it I always thought it must be insanely hard
Starting point is 02:45:40 is it insanely hard well yeah yeah but like if you if you we did like we did one that had like an introductory like friendly for
Starting point is 02:45:49 kind of thing where you just you make like a little bubble and and you should you should do it. I saw there was a, I don't remember what type of content this was, but I saw somebody doing glass blowing where they would get like driftwood and then they would do like a big, I don't know, bulb while doing glass blowing and then would droop it over the driftwood and then it would be like a vase that would kind of morph itself around the driftwood. It looked super cool. I have no idea how I would find that. But it looked awesome. Molten glass on driftwood.
Starting point is 02:46:29 That is not what it looks like, but it looks like it's the same concept. Yeah, this is not, this is not it. This is not it. Okay. No. I mean, Amazon. It's a similar concept. Amazon was unlikely to be the solution you were going to like anyway.
Starting point is 02:46:44 Yeah. Okay. I wasn't even just being biased against Amazon, though. Do you see anything here that resembles... More similar to me. Not really. More similar to that one. To this one.
Starting point is 02:46:57 Yeah. And that is on Amazon. But it was like more of a branch-like thing, not like a stump of wood. Okay. I don't know. Whatever. Class bowling is cool. All right.
Starting point is 02:47:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, more like those. A little bit more like those. Still not really like those. Yes. More like that, I think. Okay.
Starting point is 02:47:17 It's just kind of neat. Yeah, that's cool. These are cool. Yeah. yeah yeah we're getting more close to what i was thinking all right i'm trying i'm trying i'm cooking i'm cooking that looks very much closer to it okay all right okay all right cool all right we've kind of apparently it's apparently it's a thing i didn't know that driftwood glass thing is a thing i mean we live in the world of like Pinterest right basically everything's a thing because of
Starting point is 02:47:44 because of that yeah uh there's this is a new thing there's a new star link policy that requires a passport check, a live portrait, and these are for international use. Update, the travel registration support page is 404 now. Okay, interesting. So Starlink just rolled out a new travel registration policy requiring customers using the service outside of their registered home country to submit their full legal name,
Starting point is 02:48:12 nationality date of birth passport number, a copy of their passport, and a live portrait selfie. failure to register within 25 days results in the service being disabled abroad. The pop-up has been appearing for U.S. and Canadian customers, including some who have never traveled internationally, and it's reportedly triggered by owning the Portable Starlink Mini, which works with the Rome Plan, 60 days per trip internationally. SpaceX has not officially commented, but the move is possibly a crackdown on malicious actors like scammers in Myanmar, Latin American drug cartels, and... This is a...
Starting point is 02:48:47 Given SpaceX's sort of history with the conflict in Ukraine, Russian military forces, this seems like a likely one, who have all been caught using Starlink. Some customers suspect that this is kind of a know-your-customer-customer-compliance situation. Concerns about this, however, include confusion for users without passports, fears that the pop-up is a scam. given the sensitive info that's requested and the inverse or the inverse or the opposite of that or a related concern is that if this is something that people know to expect, then scammers going and pretending to be SpaceX and asking for this information could be pretty scary.
Starting point is 02:49:32 Sorry, I thought you're done. There was also a situation where at least one boat user, Bruce Toll, reported that his service was cut off before the 25-day deadline mid-voyage and he was only able to restore it because he still had some. coverage, luckily. And then also just general privacy concerns, like, in general. What else we got? Well, I just, I think, you know how there was, there was a lot of stuff recently? There was some about ubiquity. There's some going on right now about a Canadian firearms manufacturer making sniper rifles,
Starting point is 02:50:09 and their sniper rifles were found in Russian military hands. There's the ubiquity thing and stuff like that. And people are calling for like, hey, you need to better control, you know, the distribution of your products. But, I mean, are we asking for government overreach? Yeah. It kind of feels that way to me. But then, like, sometimes it is also like, well, yeah, you probably should. But not have Canadian sniper rifles killing Ukrainians.
Starting point is 02:50:43 This is maybe the pendulum swinging too far. But then at the same time. Starlink in Russian military hands right now would be benefiting them tremendously. And it was a big deal when it was shut down for them. So like, it's tough. But what's the famous quote? Those who give up their freedom for liberty deserve neither? Is that, is that the quote?
Starting point is 02:51:09 Did I get it right? I think it's we'll get neither. Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither. That's, that's it apparently. are those who give up liberty for safety quote okay ben franklin the exact quote is those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety um yeah yeah it's relevant here not at all i think it's super relevant and it's not the equivalent of a sim card i can get a sim card with no identification at all yes yes you can land at an airport and buy a sim card
Starting point is 02:51:43 and just slap it in your phone and have no this is one of those times when the slippery slow argument is not a fallacy because it becomes not a fallacy when there is solid precedent for the slope leading to a particular destination and in this case giving a government the ability to decide whether crucial communication infrastructure works or not or never mind the government also a commercial entity that could be controlled by another government or other entity, giving somebody else control of crucial infrastructure
Starting point is 02:52:24 is like bad. And it often leads to very bad things. And if luckily you happen to live in a society that is free enough that that hasn't been a problem for you personally, then that's really good. And people around the world, I'm sure, are very happy for you. But there are plenty of folks
Starting point is 02:52:45 in places like Hong Kong who would love to have a word with you about how awful it can be when their ability to communicate and organize can be turned on and off at a whim and I'm sure the Iranians would
Starting point is 02:53:00 also agree that this can have very negative outcomes and the more that you give up the greater the likelihood of those outcomes yeah Iran has Starlink service
Starting point is 02:53:18 so did Russia yeah until someone turned it off and I was talking about the government limiting internet access in Iran also I believe owning a Starlink no I'm sorry I'm responding to full point chat no no I know but I so I yes Starlink does allow service there
Starting point is 02:53:38 but from my understanding owning a Starlink dish there is a crime at this point in time so giving another outside entity, the ability to turn on or off your communications infrastructure. I think, hopefully, most people can recognize, given that there are concrete examples where that has been a very big problem, that that is not something that we generally want. Yikes.
Starting point is 02:54:11 Yeah, Persian tech guy says owning Starlink is indeed illegal in Iran right now. Curious Bread says Iran is actively jamming Starlink signals domestically. as well. Yeah, Persian tech guy. We Iranians do agree. So just because you're lucky enough that you are not being oppressed enough yet does not mean that we should just kind of go, oh, well, this is fine. The flip side of it being, do I want Canadian rifles killing Ukrainians? No. No. But should we put a chip on every gun that has GPS? tracking and you can't pull the trigger if it's in certain geographical regions. I mean, that sounds... Wiley draft, you're saying Russian military was killing people because of Starlink.
Starting point is 02:55:02 Ukraine military is currently killing people with Starlink. Yeah. Lots of... I'm sure they're not the only one. You want their shut off too? Like, this is like, where is the fact that the line is not set by you is the whole part of the reason, the whole part of the problem that we're currently discussing. Yes.
Starting point is 02:55:21 And it's an uncomfortable conversation. Yeah. It's a Western network. Okay. I mean, we're never going to see I'd I hear, and that's okay. But like, yeah. I mean, what does Western mean?
Starting point is 02:55:37 The West is the West until the West isn't the West. It's also not a Western network. The NATO alliance is not exactly as concrete today as it was it's a company. It's not a government service. It's not, it's not. I don't think you can necessarily say it's a Western network. He's saying, like, should we enable our enemies?
Starting point is 02:55:57 It's like, well, whose enemies? It's up to... Whose enemies? Yeah, exactly. It's up to a company. Yeah. And like, and what does Western even mean right now?
Starting point is 02:56:08 Nothing is that simple right now. Sorry. Good News, Wandshow. Yeah, we should move on. Linux. Gains some more critical Windows apps, including 3D movie maker. and Space Cadet Pinball.
Starting point is 02:56:26 Two classic mid-1990s Windows apps have been officially ported to Linux. Space Cadet Pinball, which was originally part of the Microsoft Plus Pack for Windows 95, was decompiled and rebuilt by Musichenko Andrei and ported to 14 different platforms. The Linux build is now available on FlatHub,
Starting point is 02:56:48 and Oracle Linux developer, Stephen Brennan, also recently blogged about getting it running on Linux. This is, in a word, based. Also... You guys should edit a movie. There's an even... Well, have you ever used 3D Movie Maker?
Starting point is 02:57:05 No. Yeah. Not how that works. In even bigger news, 3D Movie Maker has come to Linux. Microsoft open sourced it back in 2022, but it sat mostly untouched until registry readers, Mark Cave, Ailand, and Ben Stone spent roughly 15 months on a fork called 3D MMEX
Starting point is 02:57:29 after the original 3D MMF Forever project stalled. Beyond a native Linux port, they added 64-bit support, bug fixes, arm 64 Windows builds, native file dialogues, MIDI music via fluid synth, and a G-streamer-powered video player. A Raspberry Pi version is in the lower.
Starting point is 02:57:51 works. So I'm looking at the video and it, is it like source movie maker where you like have to use their like little characters and stuff? So I actually am not sure because one of the problems that I had with 3D movie maker was that at the time almost nobody had a microphone. So I could only use the handful of audio clips that were included and maybe it had other capabilities. Actors and props, sounds, words, scenes.
Starting point is 02:58:21 So maybe it had other capabilities if you also had other accessories, but we couldn't really, like, do that much with it. Right. But, yeah, there's, like, walking animations and, like... Wow. Yeah. I don't know if I ever saw anything that was the output of this. I definitely, like, never even opened to that.
Starting point is 02:58:44 Oh, it was not included. This was, like, paid software. Oh, wow. Yeah, and there was, like, there was, like, quests and stuff. Like, you could click on... Like you could go to different places and like kind of the, like the,
Starting point is 02:58:55 the studio campus and like, find collectibles. Here, let me see if I can find. Here's a video from Dawstorm that says there's, there's still nothing like Microsoft 3D movie maker. 23,000 views.
Starting point is 02:59:19 Yeah, this guy. This guy was funky. and you could do all kinds of stuff. Yeah, like you could set up your scene. And yeah, I remember these stock characters, man. They had like a handful of outfits each. You could have them talk to each other. And like, you could make them die and stuff.
Starting point is 02:59:36 You could make them like grow really big and then explode. There was like an explode effect. There's all kinds of, all kinds of cool stuff. And now you can run it on Linux for the dozens of people who want to do that. I just, it was a, it was a part of. of my childhood. I have multiple core memories sitting around the computer with my siblings, making the, you know, the baby explode or whatever after it does something, just goofing around. It's a fun creativity tool that in some ways encourages additional creativity due to it being so
Starting point is 03:00:13 rudimentary and so limited, if you kind of get what I mean. Like in some ways, the ability to do anything. It's like AI. The ability to just kind of say, yeah, make this is less rewarding than using a crummy tool to try to make something good, if that kind of makes sense. Speaking of, you know, crappy AI outputs, AMD put up a pretty horrible AI generated ad, which is not good news. So instead, we're going to talk about an AMD-related thing that is good news.
Starting point is 03:00:50 AMD listened. FSR 4.1 is coming to our DNA 3 and then later to our DNA 2. The feature is going to be enabled through a driver update bringing support to older cards supporting intate instructions as opposed to the FP8 version that was used on RDNA4.
Starting point is 03:01:08 It's expected to drop in July for Radion 7,000 cards and then sometime in early 2027 for our DNA 2 cards. An intate version of FSR 4.0 was leaked in 2025, which users were able to get running using tools like Opti-Scalar, but AMD had until now not committed to bringing FSR4 to these older cards. This change by AMD will bump that support to FSR 4.1, which does improve image quality versus FSR 4.0. Our discussion question is, everyone liked that. What are some other times that a company backported features to an older
Starting point is 03:01:46 product, and it was pretty cool? You know what? I'm going to throw Microsoft a bone. We've given them a lot of flack for the last couple of months. I think it was pretty cool when Windows 8 sucked and they said, okay, here's Windows 10 for free. Here's a free upgrade. That's kind of, it's not really like backporting a feature. It's kind of backporting a feature. It's taking your old computer that was Windows 8 and backporting all the Windows 10 features to it. So you know what? I'm standing by it. You got anything? maybe chat can let us know if they can think of anything. I'm rapidly typing in chat. Can you rephrase a question? What are other times that a company backported features to an older product and it was cool and everyone liked it? Didn't AMD, hasn't AMD done this in the past? Yeah. I'm not going to be able to name like super specific examples, but I think AMD has done this in the past.
Starting point is 03:02:56 AMD has a bit of a precedent of supporting platforms for a long time and bringing things to them. bringing things back to them. Nvidia also brought some of their newer features back to older cards. They've done, I think, I think they've made a pretty good faith effort to support the RTX promises of the 20th, of the 20 series, even though the hardware was just like not there yet.
Starting point is 03:03:24 They haven't always done a perfect job, but I think they've done pretty okay, solid B. there was there was something there was something in the chat that I had wanted to that I'd wanted to talk about no I missed it
Starting point is 03:03:40 oh right no you reminded me yeah AMD's track record of supporting products for a long time we've got a really cool video coming we're going to put the newest AM4 processor in the oldest AM4 board and then we're going to like benchmark it against that same
Starting point is 03:03:55 processor in the newest AM4 board and see if if you bought the right AM4 board 10 years ago, can you literally buy a chip today and upgrade your computer and what are the downsides of that? It's going to be pretty cool. Yeah, that is pretty sweet actually.
Starting point is 03:04:13 Yeah, one of our newer writers, Michael is working on that project. So it's, and then Pancratz is helping him out with some of the testing. My labs might be actually helping out as well. I'm not sure about that. Are you still arguing with float plane chat? Yes.
Starting point is 03:04:27 It's okay. Don't make me time you out. We'll be friends in the end. I'll put you in time out. It's okay. We're fine. Okay, if you type any more to float plane chat right now, I'm putting you in time out.
Starting point is 03:04:35 I've put other people in time out today. Float plane chat's spicy today. I don't know what's going on. It must be a full moon or something. It's been interesting. Yeah, and for once, this is wild. I'm not arguing with anyone. It's like I feel like the kid, like,
Starting point is 03:04:50 Mom, Dad, stop fighting for the first time ever. So, Dan, this is what it feels like. You do get used to it? Well, Mom and Dad fighting? Or, yeah. Yeah, oh, okay. And then you have this, like, smugness. You have smugness.
Starting point is 03:05:05 And you're like, like, you're just watching, you're watching. Yeah, big smugness. Yeah, big, like. I mean, he's the one doing the gesture. I'm just, right. Pair of smug. All right, thank you for that. And you're just watching.
Starting point is 03:05:18 Class dismissed. Meta employees have launched a protest against mouse tracking technology at their U.S. offices. This one is, I want to say, You got to stay tuned on this one because at the beginning, it's like you're thinking it's like mouse jugglers or something like that. No, no. No, no. It's so much worse. Stay tuned. And the reason that this belongs in Good News WAN Show is because I have massive respect for the meta employees that are speaking out right now for reasons that I'll get to a minute.
Starting point is 03:05:52 Okay. So on May 12th, meta employees distributed flyers at multiple U.S. offices to protest the company's recent installation. of mouse tracking software on their computers, pushing for colleagues to sign an online petition against it. The tracking tool is called Model Capability Initiative or MCI, and it logs mouse movements, clicks, keystrokes, and occasional screenshots of work-related applications
Starting point is 03:06:22 in order to, not monitor if you're working, but in order to train meta's AI models. Meta's justification for this is that it is building agents to do everyday computer tasks so its models need real examples of how people actually use computers spokesperson Andy Stone added
Starting point is 03:06:44 that the data isn't used for anything else with safeguards in place for sensitive content with that said employees expect that the data is used to train the models that will replace them this protest is landing just before meta lays off 10% of its staff or about 8,000 people on May 20th, so that's in five days, while also canceling plans to hire for another 6,000 open roles.
Starting point is 03:07:11 All of this is happening while meta plans to spend up to $135 billion on AI infrastructure this year, building toward what Zuckerberg calls personal superintelligence for its 3.5 billion daily users. The protest has also spread to the UK, where users are organizing through the United Tech and allied workers union, with organizer Eleanor Payne accusing executives of pursuing speculative AI strategies while forcing staff to endure,
Starting point is 03:07:39 quote, draconian surveillance, unquote, to train the very systems meant to replace them. Boy, is there ever a lot to unpack here. So, on the eve of mass layoffs, people are speaking out
Starting point is 03:07:54 and taking action against this draconian surveillance, massive respect there. the fact that meta is treating their employees as like as like as training data is sort of next level unhinged um like i'm trying to okay luke hit me with something here stop arguing hit me with something here what would be what would be where I don't need to see the screen I'm putting me in timeout
Starting point is 03:08:37 can I put another admin in time I can just remove it I'll time out the people you're talking to no no no no no okay all right all right then stop good people okay we just we just got confused they're good people what's worse
Starting point is 03:08:53 Luke what's worse if meta was doing this to their user base or doing this to their staff who at least they pay. Just doing it to both. Well, I know, but no, no, no, no, just for the sake of, for the sake of having a moral argument right now. Like, I just, I want to hear your perspective.
Starting point is 03:09:12 I value your perspective. That's all. I respect you. What, okay, let's say it was me. Okay? In our hypothetical scenario, it's me. I'm building, I need, I just need footage of people, you know, wanking it. what's better if I if I record my staff who happened to be paid porn performers okay okay okay right
Starting point is 03:09:37 because they were going to wank it anyway right you're trying to train an AI bot because you're going to be selling sex robots in the future or my users who are wanking it at home and it's in the TOS like it's either way you know I was allowed to do it which one's worse that's what I want to know I think it depends on how six of three in the chat says Say no more. I'm your man. Gilmore D. Why did I know you were going to say that line is because you've been watching Wandshow for too long. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:13 We'll jiggle all the things. Yeah. Which one's worse? I think it depends on how explicitly communicated it is. Because if it's a meta service and it's explicitly communicated to the user, you can just not. Sorry, did you say nut or not? In this case, both, realistically.
Starting point is 03:10:34 You're picking one or the other. But you, I mean, I have a really hard time believing unless you're an influencer of some kind that Instagram is a requirement to your life. Okay, yeah, I can see that. But you need a job. But you do need a job. But you could work somewhere else. Maybe. Job market's really bad.
Starting point is 03:10:54 Economy is wrecked and the job market's really bad. Can I tell you. can I tell you and maybe maybe this is maybe if I was going to put on my lizard brain hat I would feel ickyer about my employees because if you had to watch someone
Starting point is 03:11:16 wank no no no no not know them no I don't mean the watching I just mean the like the using of them well that's what they're doing they're using their employees to train some data set because they know that it's one of the only clean data sources now. As a reminder,
Starting point is 03:11:38 because everything's poisoned now. Do they provide the tissues to clean the data set? As a reminder in the scenario, I have to pick one of them. So I can't just say obviously they're both bad. I'm just re-giving that context because some people are going to be like, oh. Like I, because with an employee, even if I've never actually interacted with them, because let's say I work, I run a company that has tens of thousands of employees or whatever. Sure.
Starting point is 03:12:01 Like with them, there was, there was at least a pen and paper version of a handshake that exists between, between me and them. We have like, we have like some level of mutualism in our relationship,
Starting point is 03:12:14 whereas I feel like, well, I guess the user's that too, but like I, I don't have to look in the whites of their eyes at an all hands meeting. I don't know. I'm just, to me it feels ickyer
Starting point is 03:12:24 to use the people who are directly benefiting you every day through the laborer that they control. tribute to your organization. But then again, the users are directly benefiting you as well, and that's pretty icky too. In fact, like they could be more dependent on you. Like an Instagram influencer, there's such a great example that I wouldn't have thought of, but they're super dependent on the platform. It's a job, yeah. It is a job. And you don't have to like that job.
Starting point is 03:12:48 You could think it's stupid or whatever, and that's fine. That's your opinion. But like, that doesn't change that for some people, and more importantly, where your argument falls apart for the people who work for those people. It is very much a job. You can argue all day that my job shouldn't be a job being YouTuber, blah, blah, blah, stupid, go get a real job.
Starting point is 03:13:07 But everybody who works for me has a real job. Like, Dan. Well, he had a real job. He apparently left it. Don't worry about that. The point is, people with very real jobs
Starting point is 03:13:19 work for Linus Media Groupink and the same would be true of Instagram. That's a really good point. Yeah. Like... So it's hard to... It's hard to... So for most...
Starting point is 03:13:29 Most users, I see Instagram is very non-essential, right? Not only is it non-essential, but there are alternative platforms that do like almost the same thing. So, but then it's not true for everyone. And it's not always possible to just switch over. Not every Viner succeeded on another platform. Oh, no, I'm talking pure viewers. Oh, peer viewers. Sure.
Starting point is 03:13:54 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like, I don't think you can argue that any of those things is, like, essential. Although I have heard that a lot of people are using TikTok as search now. That's a terrible idea. I've, I don't have it. I have no idea. But I mean, based on how much like horrible AI slop misinformation we found the last time we did like a TikTok tech hacks video,
Starting point is 03:14:20 you shouldn't search anything on TikTok. Somebody recently was asking me like, what's my primary media source? And I said that it was YouTube. And they're like, what do you mostly use it for? And I was like, honestly, I think, like, learning things? Most of the content that I watch is, like, information or education included? My goodness. Oh, my God. What is this?
Starting point is 03:14:44 It's me doing a TikTok dance. Oh, yeah. This is some crazy next level crazy Adam intro energy here. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Don't overthink it. Yeah. And they were like, oh, yeah, I do that too.
Starting point is 03:14:58 for like fixing things and whatnot. I was like, oh yeah, sure. Like I, you know, we were taking apart my washing machine. And I just watched some YouTube video of a, of a appliance repair person taking apart the washing machine. And they're like, yeah, except I don't use YouTube for that anymore. And I was like, huh? They're like, yeah, I use TikTok. The videos are like faster.
Starting point is 03:15:21 Oh, that's weird to my brain, a person who doesn't use TikTok. But yeah, I don't know. The children are actually wrong this time. This was not a... I know. I just mean like the Seymour Skinner quote. Yeah, yeah. No, it's the children who are wrong.
Starting point is 03:15:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This person was similar age to me. But I also understand what you're saying. Yeah, I don't know. Both of them are, I think, inherently evil. You have to pick one, though.
Starting point is 03:15:57 Which one's it here? I think it really comes down to how much it could you said TOS. If it's just TOS. Yeah. Then I kind of want to say user base. They had it coming. What? Oh my God.
Starting point is 03:16:16 Just because lying to consumers is like a yikes. And it would be, I think, much harder to hide from employees. But if it's, if there's like a pop-up when you load Instagram, that's like, we're stealing everything. The camera is always on. Please wank. Then, I mean, what you do is your own. If you decide to keep using it.
Starting point is 03:16:41 Or it belongs to Mark. Yeah. Either way is fine. At that point, I would be more upset about the employees because I feel like the employees are more trapped in that scenario. And then we come back to the cyclical argument of Instagram creators and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I think, I don't know. this might be a terrible argument, but I think where I'm going to land on how much of a disclosure
Starting point is 03:17:02 there is. And the more of the disclosure, the more I, it's not that I'm more okay with it, the more I become less okay with the employee side, if that makes sense. Let's talk about... Because, sorry, at a core of the argument, if you tell that to a bunch of employees, there's going to be a ton of people that cannot leave because their life situation won't allow them to. And if you tell that to users, people could just decide in the moment to uninstall Instagram. So then we both agree that employees is ickier because they're stuck. I think so.
Starting point is 03:17:37 In the relationship? I think so. Unless you're not disclosing it to consumers, because then that's such a huge consumer rights violation that like... That the employee's rights come second. Amazon employees are token maxing. I'm actually so excited for this topic. due to pressure to use AI tools. And this is good news because it's just really, really fucking funny.
Starting point is 03:18:09 On May 12th, the Financial Times reported that Amazon employees are using an internal AI tool to automate non-essential tasks. That's important. Non-essential tasks just to show their managers that they are using AI more frequently. this practice is being called token maxing which I think is going to take me a while to be able to say with the straight phase this pressure stems from Amazon
Starting point is 03:18:38 setting a target this year requiring more than 80% of developers to use AI tools each week plus internal leaderboards that track each employee's AI token consumption employees told the financial times that there is quote
Starting point is 03:18:54 so much pressure to use these tools and that tracking use creates perverse incentives, which is one of Luke's favorite pet peeves. Amazon said that the stats would not factor into performance reviews, but several employees said that they believed that managers were checking anyway. Amazon has since limited team-wide visibility of usage stats, so only an employee and their manager can see them, and is reportedly discouraging managers from using token consumption as a performance metric at
Starting point is 03:19:28 all. Fake news. token maxing has also surfaced at Meta and Microsoft, where Meta's internal AI leaderboard reportedly only lasted days after going public. Nvidia CEO Jensen Wong said he would be, quote, deeply alarmed if a $500,000 a year engineer wasn't consuming at least a quarter million dollars in tokens annually, meaning that the entire ecosystem seems to be incentivized for consumption and for it to continue climbing. Even if a lot of that token consumption turns out to be performative. No way.
Starting point is 03:20:02 Dude, this is a whole new layer to the financial circle jerk that is going on around AI infrastructure building out and AI company valuations. If they're all... What if we record the circle jerk for training? If they're all just using their own AI tokens and using as many of them as they possibly can to juice their token consumption, to juice the revenues that create the value. to holy freaking crap what is going on here from a from a dev friend in Silicon Valley is that not only are people unnecessarily using it just to make sure that their numbers stay high some of them are setting some of them are building their own tools that will just automatically use it in order to just sit there and like token virus basically to just consume tokens without them even interacting with anything in order to try to juice their numbers So they have built bots that just use AI time, which if you think about the impact of this stuff, is like tons of water, tons of energy, tons of various forms of pollution, massive amounts of expense so that they don't lose their jobs. Which is just at a certain level. Dan.
Starting point is 03:21:25 at a certain level it's just it's so it's it's part of me wants to laugh that we've gone from mouse jigglers to auto AI token scripts that just burn your tokens so that you can look good this arms race of like are these people doing their jobs is getting crazier
Starting point is 03:21:51 Luke oh man Luke there are days when I think everyone you know struggles to like go into work I have my days like that yeah sure
Starting point is 03:22:05 today is a day that I am extremely happy and proud to work at Linus Media Group incorporated where this does not exist for now no
Starting point is 03:22:18 next week no no token leaderboard next week next week next week next week for sure uh yeah crazy i just thought it was really funny that guy telling me the story about building a little tool that just consumes tokens yeah i mean it makes sense no valuable output because like if if all you're being tracked on is like how much you're
Starting point is 03:22:45 using AI because i i don't like like what is it that they don't have ways of uh uh of putting together meaningful, like, quarterly goals and performance metrics. It's just, we're back to, we're back to lines of code, Luke. This is, oh, the lines of code argument has come up a lot in AI land because, uh, AI enjoyers, some AI enjoyers, a subset of AI enjoyers will brag about like, oh yeah, well, my agents output 37,000 lines of code today. What are you doing, small boy? Look at me.
Starting point is 03:23:22 and it's like is it 37 lights a good code bro I don't know maybe probably not wow um fun world
Starting point is 03:23:34 very fun world uh ranichael ranacel says in floatplain chat it'd be like tracking truckers performance by gas consumed it's like yeah like kind of
Starting point is 03:23:47 it could be a proxy for like them doing stuff but it also like definitely couldn't for the ones that just lead foot it or literally just dump gas out onto the gravel in the parking lot because they know that they're going to get a good performance review for doing so like that's the perverse incentive thing put a brick on the pedal and leave it in neutral overnight yeah just send it yeah send it nowhere yeah like it's just obviously bad Oh man Yeah and then like you know
Starting point is 03:24:22 The arms race is just going to continue So now managers are going to start getting reports Like I'm sure there's going to be some way That they can ask the Whatever system they have What this user has been using it for And then they're going to find that it's a bunch of junk data So then the other side is going to
Starting point is 03:24:42 Build more sophisticated waste tools context-aware waste tools where you are informing the waste tool of what various tasks you have going on at the time. And then it will just research and generate garbage output based on those things. And then the arms race will get to the point where the tools actually do productive work. Maybe. Just kidding. Yeah. It's, uh, it's,
Starting point is 03:25:08 they'll be so good at hiding the fact that they're not doing anything useful that they will start to do something useful. Sounds like a lot of corporate life. It sounds like a great short story. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, man. But hey, here's something cool. On May 4th, Boise State announced that a team led by electrical engineering professor
Starting point is 03:25:34 Chris Campbell and Pearl Hill Technology CEO, Bamidale Omatawa, has built a portable device that detects forever chemicals or PFS in water samples in real time out in the field. The device called the environmental optically gated transistor uses specialized transistors paired with machine learning to detect PFAS down to one part per
Starting point is 03:25:57 trillion, the threshold set by current EPA regulations. Current EPA-proofed PFAS tests cost about $300 per sample, take weeks, and require lab-only equipment like liquid chromatography paired with mass spectrometry. The new device aims
Starting point is 03:26:13 to do the same job on-site in real-time and at competitive prices if scaled. PFS, or per and polyfluoroalkal substances, are a group of over a thousand chemicals found in drinking water, food, cookware, and clothing. The most toxic ones are linked to multiple cancers, infertility, developmental delays in infants,
Starting point is 03:26:31 and compromised immune systems. The breakthrough started as an accident in Campbell's lab. Undergraduate researchers, leaning over microscopes, noticed that their breath was causing weird variations in transistor results. which turned out to be the transistors reacting to different chemicals in the air. In methanol tests, the team has hit accuracy rates between 86.7 and 97% depending on the PFAS molecule. The next step is reaching those numbers in real water samples,
Starting point is 03:27:00 which have other contaminants that can complicate detection. Our discussion question is, do you think a higher awareness of PFAS will lead to stronger regulation around it? I'm going to go ahead and say no, because awareness of tooth decay has not led to good decisions around fluoride, instance. But hey, maybe we'll figure it out. Yeah, I was watching a video a while ago. Somebody testing water around where, like, hikers would go versus areas that they didn't.
Starting point is 03:27:37 I found, like, massive increases in PFAS content. Because, like, a lot of hiking gear is just covered in it. Oh. Rinskha at Rinkzate says I thought this whole time was PFA's. Maybe. Yeah, whatever. It's one of those things I've only ever seen written. There's so much stuff like, yeah.
Starting point is 03:28:04 I read predominantly as my source of media ingestion. So, sorry. I've heard it called PFS before. I don't know what's correct. I know in Linux, I know it's like the, because file system, whatever, whatever. So it's like, like, f, like, f fass. tab. I like calling it F stab. Nice. It just sounds cooler. Oh, apparently Derek from Veritasium says it the way that
Starting point is 03:28:33 I say it. So either I've heard it called P-FAS before. Either we're both wrong or we're both right. Yeah. Let's go. I mean, you call it GIF. Yeah, which is correct. The creator says it's GIF. Therefore, it's Jif. I mean, it's that simple. If I, if I create something, that's like four A's, and then I say it's pronounced potato. Yeah. That's fine. That's how it works. I like that. I mean, it's one of those things.
Starting point is 03:28:59 It's like, it's like, names are like that. Like someone's name will be like, this is a story my mom used to tell all the time because she overheard a conversation where this lady with the last name, S-C-R-E-M-I-N, insisted that her name was, or... S-C-R-E-M-I-N?
Starting point is 03:29:24 S-R, yeah, insisted that her name was pronounced Scremon. And, like, rules of English, it could just as easily be screaming, but she was, like, really mad that someone pronounced it screaming. And my mom just thought it was funny, like, that screaming family, those screaming kids, you know, anyway, the point is just that if you have a name that has an ambiguous spelling, you decide how it's pronounced and everyone kind of rolls with it. It's true. I mean, look, Ashley,
Starting point is 03:29:52 ASH, L-E-I-G-H, are you fucking kidding me? But I have to play along. That's Ashley. I love the framing of I have to play along with arms at why. I have been assaulted with this information my whole life. Oh, man. Okay, anyways, let's move on. I mean, I...
Starting point is 03:30:23 Battler gun in floatplane chat says Linus got rejected by Ashley. No, I was rejected by Ashley with an L-E-Y. Okay? It was a long time ago and I'm totally over it. You can tell. Oh, man. Oh.
Starting point is 03:30:43 All right. China's new 800-cycle lithium sulfur battery could nearly double drone flight time. On May 12th, a research team at Singshua Shenzhen International Graduate School announced a new lithium sulfur battery design that nearly doubles the energy density of current drone batteries. The prototype pouch cell hit an energy density of 549 watt hours per kilo compared to the under 300 watt hours per kilo that today's commercial drone lithium ion batteries
Starting point is 03:31:11 typically deliver. Lithium sulfur batteries have long been viewed as the obvious next-generation alternative because sulfur is cheap, abundant, and theoretically stores way more energy than lithium ion. The catch has always been that the chemistry is hard to stabilize during repeated charging. The new design dropped the battery's internal resistance by 75% compared to conventional lithium sulfur designs, and in lab tests, it ran stably for 800 charge discharge cycles, while still retaining nearly 82% of its original capacity. And our discussion question here is,
Starting point is 03:31:43 every few months we get a battery breakthrough that never escapes the lab. What are the odds that this is the real deal? I'm going to tell a story and then say something and Flooping Chat be me to it, but I had the thought before I read it. One is I remember CES a very, very long time ago. I saw a booth that was talking about battery technology and they told me all their claims and I told them, wow, if you guys do this and bring it to market, you'll all be billionaires. And they looked a little bit uncomfortable with that because I'm pretty sure they knew it was never coming to market.
Starting point is 03:32:16 Right. and it never came to market. Right. I don't remember the name of it or anything, but like I was following it for like a few years afterwards, and it kind of just petered off in the- Carbon nanotubes. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:32:27 And then the other one is, and Flip plane got to this before, I did, but again, I thought of it independently. I don't see the message anymore. But war do be great for innovation. And drones do be crazy right now.
Starting point is 03:32:42 So maybe there's a little bit more potential expectations. that there might be some form of battery technology improvement. I'm not surprised at all that they mentioned drones in the text because it is probably very pointedly related at that. I mean, it's never a guarantee, but billions and billions of dollars and national defense being at stake does tend to incentivize certain developments. Governments around the world have been paying a lot of attention to the like, just incredible things Ukraine has been doing with drones
Starting point is 03:33:18 and are kind of starting to wake up that that might, you know, all those random people on battlefield strapping C4 to drones and then flying them into tanks and stuff might have made sense in the real world too. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:33:39 He does know. I'm not going to press the button. And you know what I know is it's time for Dan. to feed us some comms. Sure. It's after dark, baby. Hit me, Daniel Besser.
Starting point is 03:33:55 Okay, all right, what do we got? Hi, LDL. My parents are getting remarried soon, and I'm going to be the efficient. To each other, or... To Teddy here. Any advice on giving a speech that is genuine and heartfelt
Starting point is 03:34:11 without being cliche or sending a weird message? Um, man, what was... I do? So genuine and heartfelt without being cliche. So what is the context of the message? Talk about the people. I think that's the best way to avoid cliches is make it specific to the actual people and how you think that they are a great fit for each other. I think that would be my my best advice for writing like a like a wedding speech of any sort. A old, do you look like you were going to say something? I thought Luke was going to basically say that I think it's almost hard to be cliche at a wedding. Really?
Starting point is 03:34:55 I think people might, let me look up. Yeah, I don't know. I think weddings are cliche. Interesting. So you would actually even say it's okay to just play it safe, say the bride has never looked better, the groom is so lucky, you know, just the, you know. I think all of us probably fine. Yeah, just stick with the. I don't think anybody's going to be bothered by the,
Starting point is 03:35:21 that. Stick with the basics. It wraps around. I also think talking with the people, like everything that you said is, is great. Yeah, I think that's good advice too, though, because trying to be too creative can hit real hard, but it can also miss super bad. Yeah. So if you're not sure, just fall back on the like, these things are obviously good. And it's fine. Shraf 2K says, just go Corinthians, can't miss. Quote Ezekiel 2320. Okay, I got to know what Ezekiel 2320 is. This is according to curious bread. Ezekiel 2320 is one of the most infamously graphic and shocking verses in the Bible. It uses explicit metaphorical language to describe the spiritual unfaithfulness and idolatry of Israel and Judah, comparing their
Starting point is 03:36:10 alliances with pagan nations to elicit sexual lust. She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Why did you have that at the ready? For a parent's wedding. Let's move on. Hey, LLD, just bought my first pool for the upcoming summer. Linus as a pool owner. Any maintenance tips for a newbie?
Starting point is 03:36:56 Yeah, don't get a pool. Sorry, too late. same here i would also say the same thing also thank you for the ev chargers bcit will put them to good use as training aids um yeah so any maintenance tips for a newbie um oh gosh sell it yeah yeah um i mean you um uh do not let the chemicals go out of spec you're going to spend a lot more money in time getting them re-inspect that's good that's good That's good stuff. And when you change the temperature,
Starting point is 03:37:33 that totally changes the chemicals, even though you didn't change anything other than the temperature. Watch out for that one. No glass near the pool. Yeah. Oh, before you get a pool, make sure that you have anyone to share it with you because it costs exactly the same
Starting point is 03:37:51 if nobody swims in it as it does if everybody swims in it. Good chat. Good chat. Thoughts on the specs of the steam machine. Oh, man. I mean, I feel like I've talked about it a fair bit in the LTT videos that we did on it, but I guess we're getting pretty close to potential delivery of this thing. So it's kind of on everyone's mind again. I, man, it all depends on price. If it comes in at a really reasonable price, which is feeling more and more unlikely, the longer we get it, the further we get into this Rampocalypse, then I think that the spec is a really fine target that Valve went for. But if it's really expensive, then that's going to be a really tough pill to swallow because there are benefits of the steam machine, like being able to wake with CEC, having the integration with the dungle for the steam controller, the super quiet compact form factor. These are all really good things. But, you know, it's always hard for me to recommend something that isn't a great value. And so I'm just, I'm going to have to compare it to a DIY machine no matter, no matter what happens. there was an article on vice that I didn't fully read
Starting point is 03:39:05 I just kind of saw the headline but yeah I really don't know but yeah I hope not there was like this thing so I saw this new update to the source code suggested the machine frame will exceed 1,000 euros that could be anything
Starting point is 03:39:26 that really could be anything that just looks like placeholder values it could be I doubt it. I think that's too high. Yeah, I don't think so. Hopefully not. Yeah, I doubt it.
Starting point is 03:39:39 Hopefully not. We are a mixed Mac and Windows business environment. Will switching our users to Mac improve our company's overall security posture? I think switching everyone one way, one way or the other would, hold on, possibly be better because you'd have fewer surfaces, but possibly be worse because if anything does go wrong, it hits everybody there. That's my uneducated take.
Starting point is 03:40:14 So in chat, that sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, we do that. Yeah. We also have Linux machines. Yeah, we do. It's bad. We're a shockingly small organization for like, the complicated nature of everything that we do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have like everything from like
Starting point is 03:40:35 enterprise equipment in the cloud to enterprise equipment on prem to extremely not enterprise. Yeah, all of it. With weird rules, this is a desktop workstation, but I have it under a server rule banner. Right. So that it doesn't update and I get to choose. And there's like every single little tiny computer that we have around is different. A small part of Dan's soul goes into a horrocks every time the WAN show crashes so he's really like
Starting point is 03:41:06 tries to stay on top of that. Yeah. So are we pretty sure it was Envank? Has it been causing problems now? No? There was the one stream that we did where you're like, oh, I went back to Envank and that
Starting point is 03:41:22 one had a couple problems. Are we on CPU encoding right now? No, we were for two shows. And then I fixed the problem. Oh, and Envank, we're on Envank right now. And have been for the last couple weeks. What did you do? Do you swap the GPU or something?
Starting point is 03:41:36 No, I just rolled back the drivers until they're like a year out of date. Wow. Interesting. If only we could just air gap this system, except that we have to stream from it. Well, we could use Wi-Fi. Oh. Wait, but that's not air-gapping. It is a gap.
Starting point is 03:41:52 He's trying to, yeah, he's trying to... I'm just baiting here. Mostly Luke has a real problem. Masterful job, Dan. I was going to say he was... It's kind of a bit of both. It's a really a masturbator. If you record him, you can use that.
Starting point is 03:42:08 You can use that information at Train. Well, I mean, the camera's running all the time. Hey, LLD, Lionage, you mentioned after announcing smash champs. You will never do another large scale like that with your stance on E-Ways. Would you make a company like free IT to keep e-waste out? Oh, man. Free IT? I kind of like free geek.
Starting point is 03:42:32 I think that a potential like future era of the media side of our company could be that we run like a free geek like electronics recycler. I think it would be an incredible mine for content. And I think that if we also like were a retailer and you could like buy systems and stuff, We would never have to search for a reason to build a computer again because we would just have like customer systems and stuff. We'd never have to search for, you know, a system that needs to be fixed or troubleshot again because there would just always be a constant flow of them.
Starting point is 03:43:12 We wouldn't have to go out looking for cool, weird old tech to make videos about because people would just bring it to us. How much of that actually turns into content, though? wouldn't really matter because you could if you can build a sustainable functioning business i don't know if you can i don't know if you can either i kind of i don't know if you can either question that a lot because the space required versus how much you'd make off that is a really bad relationship this is true um and there's a reason why like universally loved free geek well apparently the reasons it died i actually had a longer chat with Mark
Starting point is 03:43:54 from disappearing ink a little while ago. Okay. You know, I'm not going to name any of the names that he named or anything like that, but he was very close to, physically, and also in terms of his relationships. And
Starting point is 03:44:09 he made it seem like, or at least my understanding of it was, I'm hedging a lot here because I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but basically he made me feel like, somehow that Free Geek could have survived if not for stuff that was preventable and avoidable. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Good to know.
Starting point is 03:44:38 Free Geek was like... Was that because of like donations and stuff? Or were they actually making enough from the storefront? I don't want to get into the details. But he made it seem like to me that it could have been workable. Because you ain't getting donations if you do it. If there was enough will. I mean, you can set up a separate organization. we could set up a nonprofit. People would like, oh, donate to it? I mean, it depends.
Starting point is 03:45:04 It's, it would have to have its own separate boundaries, which it should if it's operating as a nonprofit. Like, I wouldn't be able to, like, profit from it, right? And I think you'd have to have, like, you'd have to have, like, there's a lot of stuff that nonprofits have to do to be compliant. Like, you'd have to have, like, a board. I just feel like people would expect you to solely fund the entire thing. Oh, they'd expect it, but I wouldn't.
Starting point is 03:45:28 Right. I wouldn't be able to. And then, not forever, like, for that reason, I feel like it would fail. Yeah,
Starting point is 03:45:34 I don't know. It's like, it's a, like, it's a funny thing. I have sort of like a weird, I have like a weird way of contributing back to the community. Like smashchamps is a for-profit business,
Starting point is 03:45:45 but it has not made a profit and it might, might not ever pay back the overall, like, investment in it. But I certainly am, like, open to the possibility of it making money. And just to be clear, just so that this is not in conflict with things that I've said internally,
Starting point is 03:46:02 SmashChamps is not a cash flow drain anymore. But that's only because Smashchamps has a really, really nice landlord that doesn't charge it rent. Then someday, at the very least, I would like Smash Champs to pay the landlord rent so that there can be some possibility of some kind of repayment of that investment ever. But not for now. So like I could see something like an LTT free geek being kind of like that where we put in the initial basically go, okay, here's the space. Guess what? Now you have a really nice landlord that doesn't charge you rent. But you're going to have to find a way to make it break even month to month aside from that or something like that.
Starting point is 03:46:44 I could see that being a possibility. But if I bought another building, I think my wife would divorce me. We have too much of our total assets in greater Vancouver. real estate, which has taken an absolute pummeling in the last couple of years, as you may or may not have noticed. So that's been cool. Which, to be clear, I have, I've been rooting for my entire adult life. I've been like, the crash must come. I just, you know. It feels a little bit more real over the last few months. Oh, it's, I can tell you. It's fallen. It's very real. Yeah. Like, it's been real for a long time. Not even just like, it's taken a long time for sellers to clue in how real it.
Starting point is 03:47:26 is. Yeah. And, and adjust their expectations for what they're getting. I don't think it's necessarily that. They are becoming more solvent, which is like, sad. Uh, sorry, which is more solvent? The sellers, I think they're running out of money. I think they have to move. Less solvent then. Less solvent. They've, they've reached insolvency. Like, they are, I don't think we're quite using it right. But basically, yeah, they're getting desperate. They're running out of money. Uh, there's been the, rate at which Canadians have been defaulting and having places get foreclosed and whatnot is like massively ramping because people have been holding out trying to sell it at higher values and just people aren't buying. Oh hi Josh says slightly less tactfully all the boomers are realizing
Starting point is 03:48:17 their houses aren't worth what they think they are. Yep. That's a I would like to say it that way except they were selling it that amount for a really, really, really long time. It was crazy up here. So, like, they were right, honestly, which sucks. And so there's a lot of, like, not boomers that bought in at the peak, and that really sucks for them because they're underwater now at this point. Yeah. Just going to kind of look here.
Starting point is 03:48:49 I know I talked about this a little while ago, but the number of court-ordered sales in here is freaking, crazy. Like, I don't know, here's like a fricking, large scale retail and commercial space for lease. This is a, wait, court. Oh, no, this is court drive. Okay, no, no, no. For sale by court order, though, in Kelona,
Starting point is 03:49:07 three acres. For sale under court order in, court order in Victoria. It looks like a landmark commercial property. It's like a prison. A hundred fifteen thousand square feet. Look at this thing. Wow. For sale.
Starting point is 03:49:21 Court order. 122 parking stalls You want to move to Victoria boys Look at this thing Like on the island? Yeah Yeah, it would be sweet Yeah
Starting point is 03:49:30 We're not moving to the island Oh Owner Occupier Or office investment opportunity Um Yeah It's gonna be It's gonna be a pretty
Starting point is 03:49:41 Fairmont Le Chateau 925 acres Whoa Damn We can work there Yeah I bet you'd like that how where is this Montobello Quebec
Starting point is 03:49:56 you want to move to Quebec if we've got the last name for it then yeah yeah it would be super annoying because everyone's going to speak to me in French Hello I'm Monsieur Lafreniere I don't know how to speak this language I'm so sorry
Starting point is 03:50:08 and they'll be like but your last name is French and I'll be like I know I know I'm sorry I'm but we All right. Sup, bros, n's.
Starting point is 03:50:30 Sparky from the better coover. Stop leaking our tax haven, thanks. Do you think Intel will start pushing, pursuing R&D in Hillsborough with the recent SpaceX visit, or will my bros stay sad sans job? I think Intel's investments into Intel Fab. business are very much like made right now and wherever they were going to do it is where they're going to do it. However, I, I do think that that's something that is going to be come, as I've said before on the WAN show, I think that Intel's fabrication capabilities are going to become
Starting point is 03:51:15 very important geopolitically. I don't know if you all have noticed, but Trump and President Xi are having a summit right now. Or is it a state visit? It's some kind of thing that they're doing right now. And Monsieur Xi has made it very clear that Taiwan will become a flashpoint between China and the U.S. at some time in the near future, which puts TSM's situation in a pretty different light compared to even 12 months ago, 18 months ago. And I have said before, I think that things are going to be really important.
Starting point is 03:51:55 Oh, apparently he flew back today already. Okay. So it was just over the last couple days. That I think Intel's fab business is going to become very important to Western interests. Say that much. My fiancé and I are starting a business together, a cafe downtown. Any suggestions on first-time co-owned business? We both have complementary experience.
Starting point is 03:52:22 but are hesitant on hiring full-time staff? Oh, it's tough, man. You need to be aligned on what your goals are. I think 90% of the fights that Yvonne and I have had about LMG and its related companies have been because we were not aligned on what we wanted to put into it and what we wanted to get out of it. So hopefully you guys have done that. And yes, I would be hesitant on how.
Starting point is 03:52:52 hiring full-time staff because a lot of them work out really great. Some of them, like, really don't. And sometimes it's, you know, it's always a spectrum, right? Sometimes it's more your fault and sometimes it's more their fault. And it can, people are the best part and they're the hardest part. Pre-marriage or common law, you are more stuck with an employee than a partner. which is crazy but actually like not well it depends I mean you're somewhere else
Starting point is 03:53:26 in BC we have extremely strong worker of protections which can be a very good thing and they can be a very challenging thing they can be
Starting point is 03:53:35 they can be both of those things keeps me employed up next no that's not what keeps you employed Dan um you don't have the spine to come after me
Starting point is 03:53:49 lawyers are very expensive here Hi LLD I switched to Linux around six months ago and have been getting nervous from all the latest vulnerabilities like copy fail, dirty frag and Fragna's Do you have any security tips for Linux? Don't worry about it too much
Starting point is 03:54:09 Everything is cyclical Do your updates Windows has its times When it's in the news for vulnerabilities So does Apple's software so does Google software. Don't overthink it. Don't freak out.
Starting point is 03:54:24 It's going to be okay. And install a Russian language pack. Any joggers coming out anytime soon. I love the pair I bought a while ago, but was unable to get another pair because of the demand. I don't think there's any on the roadmap right now. There are some up right now. Am I crazy?
Starting point is 03:54:43 What are these? Flex pants. Can you? Oh, the flex pants are actually really great. Yeah, pick up some flex pants. These are super nice. I know they might not look 100% like it but they've got the little thing at the bottom
Starting point is 03:54:53 with those chint. I think you could have a good time jogging in these. Yeah, these are super nice. The only concern, sorry, LTT store. 29 and seam link. Yeah. I would also point out the LTT store. They're aware and they're working on it.
Starting point is 03:55:07 Okay. They're working on at 32? It's shorter than the regular. Yep, I know. So they are meant, you can see the like the cost style they have. Okay, that's fair. I hadn't considered that before.
Starting point is 03:55:22 LLD, why are all the hats so deep? It pushes the tips of my ears down, making me look like Dumbo. Outside of that, I've been loving the many new arrivals recently purchased, especially the new polo shirts. Interesting. We have two sizes. Did you order the big size? Do you maybe not need the big size?
Starting point is 03:55:40 Because, like, my ears are well clear of the hat by, like, an entire finger. width on both sides. So that's our land hat. Here's another new one. And we did specifically do two sizes so that we wouldn't have that problem. Yeah, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Starting point is 03:56:05 Maybe we need more sizes. That's interesting. Yeah. I haven't heard that feedback before. Like we did have earlier samples that would hit my ears and we'd and I'm not the only one we've tried these on, just to be very clear. It's not like, oh, it works for Linus, therefore it's good for everybody.
Starting point is 03:56:21 If anything, we are, to Luke's point about the inseam lengths, there's an upcoming pair of bottoms that specifically will not fit me because they use like a more industry standard inseam length, and they're like a straight leg. They're going to be the super soft pants. So matching the super soft hoodie, we have some pants coming that are like a very Gen Z straight leg fit. I have short legs for my height, and I have trouble with our stores sometimes. Stick a couple Oreos under the hat and just keep it up off your ear out here.
Starting point is 03:56:58 And then if you get, you get, terrible advice. Is there like sizing information? Probably. Yep. Yep. There is sizing information on the hats, the large and the medium. Circumference and hat size. Okay.
Starting point is 03:57:13 I was thinking before. Like, I don't think I've ever checked, like, that. height. I'm not a hat guy, but I've never checked that height on a hat, and it's never been a problem. It's interesting. Hi, Dan, Linusant Luke. I've been debating for a while on buying a PC slash Linux handheld. I'm leaning towards the steam deck. Should I continue to hold off in hopes of a steam deck two, or just buy one now? I'm doing that. Steam deck two probably isn't coming for like at least two years, three years maybe. I'm not expecting it anytime soon. I'm holding out because I have a switch to
Starting point is 03:57:46 and I'm kind of just deciding I'm not going to flip it. So I have a switch due. So now you're committed. Yep. I'm just going to run with that for a while and then when Steam Deck 2 comes out, I'm getting one.
Starting point is 03:57:59 ADL, what's the most recent piece of tech in your house that generally annoys you every time you use it but you haven't replaced it because it still technically works? Oh man. Might be easier to list the stuff that doesn't. My late switches. I actually have the box of Inevelli switches in my garage and I need to just start putting them in every time.
Starting point is 03:58:19 You still haven't done that? One of those switches ticks me off. And yeah, I still have those stupid GE JASCO switches. They need to go. But they technically do turn the lights on and off. But like some of them, the little tab to turn them off is like broken off of them. And like I can't, I can't add them all to our, to the Z wave controller because it just gets too overwhelmed.
Starting point is 03:58:39 And like, it's a whole thing. I, oh, yikes. Oh, yeah. Magnetic Flux and Chats is printer. Yeah, our printer. has all kinds of problems and I'm going to make a video about it, but I haven't gotten around to replacing it because I was like, Yvonne, can it wait until I make a video? Elijah needs a printer too, so we're going to go printer shopping for a video.
Starting point is 03:58:59 So it's been, it's been like months now. That's funny. And last, what did an answer? I don't know. I don't have a lot of like, I have no home automation. I think it could just be anything. It didn't necessarily say, like, how much tech do I have in my house? I have my computer.
Starting point is 03:59:20 My phone battery. You complained about your phone battery today, but it technically still works. Anything else like that? TV's totally fine. Yeah, now it is. Yeah. Got broke a while.
Starting point is 03:59:35 I don't think that was a problem with it, though. No, no, it really wasn't. Computer's fine. I think I find, yeah, my mic interface. I don't think it's an actual problem with the thing. I just haven't bothered to go through the work of like fixing why it sounds like crap because I open the menu and I just go, ah, and then I want to put it away. I don't know what any of the things do.
Starting point is 04:00:12 Oh, man. I have a, it's not even the device's problem. As far as my understanding it goes, they're good. But I have a, what is it, Roadcaster duo. My GoXLR gave up the ghost. It finally just stopped. So I was like, okay, I got to get something else. Went for a Roadcaster duo.
Starting point is 04:00:31 It's nice to use. Interface and everything's really good. It looks really nice. Cool. It doesn't do the cool thing that GoXLR did when it would boot up, which is genuinely a loss. That sucks. I really wish it. Did all the RGB, like LEDs and everything.
Starting point is 04:00:46 Yeah, and having the faders just go like, do, do, do, do it was cool. So it doesn't do any of that, which is sad. But it also just sounds worse, which I'm fairly certain. is a settings thing because I did dial in the GoXLR but XLR made it easy to dial in I find the roadcaster
Starting point is 04:01:06 does not feel as easy to dial in and it is probably a like user problem but the user experience on the GoXLR felt easier. It guided you through it. Yeah. And you know what? Maybe I skipped a menu or something.
Starting point is 04:01:20 I don't remember. I don't feel like I did. Why don't you just get another XLR? they're like kind of dead there's some community project that's kind of keeping them alive and stuff but I didn't want to reinvest into a
Starting point is 04:01:35 what is effectively end of life product that I can't get support for or any of that kind of stuff so all right hit me Mr. Dan last one I got for you tonight hey LDL
Starting point is 04:01:50 what's been the biggest year over year leap in consumer tech since 2020 outside of AI. Also, IMAG-G-3 colored translucent screwdrivers when? I think the Prismagic colorways are doing pretty well, so we might do more colors, but no guarantees, no timeline on that right now.
Starting point is 04:02:09 Most things I can think of relate to AI in some way. I was going to say, like, you know, DLSS-style things. Oh, yeah, DLSS is... Relates to AI, though. Yes. I've got a couple if you want to think about it. I didn't, I, I see it is in full plane chat, but I thought of batteries. Batteries have improved a fair amount.
Starting point is 04:02:33 But maybe go for it because those were the only two that first jumped in my head. A couple big ones for me, tandem OLEDs. Like the first time I saw the iPad Pro with that tandem OLED display, it just flipping blew my mind. Even just displays in general. Displays have been moving really fast in ways that maybe we're not appreciating as much right now. because they had already had like a big burst of improvement. Yeah. And then there was like a short lull where they were like,
Starting point is 04:03:04 these are like all good enough now and not moving that fast. And then they've been like taking off again, but maybe we're not appreciating this development cycle as much because, you know, the ones from last time are like still pretty darn good. Like it's not like when we went from TN being the norm to like IPS being the norm. Now we're going from IPS, which is like good enough to like OLED to like tandem OLED, quantum dot OLED, like all these these these great incredible technologies. And then my other big one is noise cancellation.
Starting point is 04:03:39 Active noise cancellation is like worlds better today in consumer tech products than it was five years ago. Like decades better if we if we compare it to all the advancements before. actually, I want to see how good it is in commercial products. One of the things that the TechJet gives me an excuse to benchmark is aviation headsets. So I actually asked one of our pilots. I was like, hey, can you give me a list of every good aviation headset brand? And then whichever one, we'll test them because we have a guy who we know,
Starting point is 04:04:22 who I think would be pretty good at testing something like that. And answer a question once and for all for the dozens of people who care, who makes the best noise cancelling headset. Because wouldn't you care more for like a Cessna style thing? Oh, for both. That's way louder. Oh, they're all super important because the, like, it's the long exposure that can be, that can be damaging to your hearing.
Starting point is 04:04:51 And no matter. loud in the jet? It's pretty loud, but yes, you're right. Like a prop plane would also be really loud, but maybe we could collab with the airport and be like, hey, are there any pilots that would want to like try some of these? Or would they take a microphone up with them
Starting point is 04:05:06 so that we could get some test audio? I'd be really interested, too, like, you know, DMS's testing versus the anecdotal opinions of the pilots. Um, Risen 97969x says the aviation standard is Bose, which I know, but what I want to know is,
Starting point is 04:05:28 okay, but what about these upstart companies? Yeah. Are they quietly, pun intended, better? And everyone just buys Bose because Bose has always been the best. Or is Bose still leading the pack?
Starting point is 04:05:40 I don't know. And it's, it's been something that I've been curious about ever since I learned that Bose's, like pedigree was, aviation headsets and that technology is what made its way down into consumer products. Like, I don't know if you remember this, but we actually did a video where we rented a plane so that we could do an intro for like a noise cancelling headset.
Starting point is 04:06:05 No, I don't think I know this. Here, let me see if I can find this. man if somebody knows by all means let me know because I don't actually remember while you look what an intro look at this I'm in a turtle outfit
Starting point is 04:06:25 while you look another one that I think would be like yeah we rented a plane so that we could wow cool plane you ride on top of the plane this is actually
Starting point is 04:06:38 kind of a cool ad it's like it's a show, except it's like just travel to Montreal. Montreal's sick. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So it was, yeah, it was just so that we could do the intro and then we just stood on the tarmac and, uh, and did the A roll. Neat. Right. I don't know. I think it's kind of cool. I think another thing that's advanced really nicely since 2020 has been like the ability to build things at home with not a tremendous.
Starting point is 04:07:12 amount of skill and relatively cheaply. Oh yeah. So like 3D printing and the derivatives of it. At home level tools have been dropping in price and dropping in C&C. Barrier of entry in general. Just everything. Slicing software has gotten a lot easier to use. Oh, that's a topic that we didn't touch this week. The whole bamboo.
Starting point is 04:07:33 Yes. Prusa. I don't know a ton of it. Bamboo versus the world situation. Basically, the summary version, Sparks Notes, is Bamboo Bad. Well, no, I already knew that. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:07:45 Known that for a while. Okay. Yeah. Well, basically that. I don't know fully... Bamboo more badder or Prusa Mad. Yeah. Prusa justified mad.
Starting point is 04:07:56 See, but I thought all of that was already known. Yeah, but just like... So the thing that I don't know now is what happened to change. Um, uh, Bamboo was going after someone who was doing something with... Did they sue someone? I don't think they sued them, no. Okay. But basically bamboo, bamboo not being a good citizen.
Starting point is 04:08:16 Okay. Not being a good open source citizen. I haven't looked enough into it, but I know like, I think it was like. And being kind of a bully. Rossman got his hands on some code or something and like. Yeah, it wasn't hard to get his hands on. It was like just out there. I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 04:08:29 Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I was already kind of in the bamboo bad camp. So it didn't really change anything for me. So I didn't pay much attention to it. Yep. I'm not going to throw. away my bamboo printers I already have.
Starting point is 04:08:44 But I don't see myself buying another one. Yeah. So that's where I'm at. Yeah. I was going to say something. Shoot, I think I lost it. Bummer. It was interesting.
Starting point is 04:09:02 There was a cease and desist of the repo owner of Orca Slicer. And I thought I read somewhere that it was a fork of Orca Slicer. that received this cease and desist. But I am not read up on this. So like, I, I don't know. It was a fork. Yeah, it was a fork, not orca slicer. Yeah, so that's part of the problem is, like,
Starting point is 04:09:26 I haven't dove enough into this to get, like, the actual for sure things. And I know that there is some that's not 100% correct, like statements like that. It's all a fork. That's the point. I don't know, whatever. Basically. I don't know what's going on. Bamboo being a bad boy.
Starting point is 04:09:47 Yeah. Is the bottom line. Prusa's got some really cool stuff. They sure do. Yeah. It's not cheap. Nope. But they actually have some really cool stuff that I'm looking forward to checking out very soon.
Starting point is 04:10:00 Nice. Yeah, we're like, we have someone on the writing team who's like very 3D printing now. Yeah. So we've got some pretty cool 3D printed stuff in the hopper right now and I'm pretty excited about it. Yeah, he appeared in the video about, um. Oh, that's crazy. He apparently baddo's own software as a fork of Prus's. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:10:22 That would be why Prus is mad. Oh, yeah, Prusa Big Mad. Wow. Crazy. Yeah, so Sean worked for all 3DP back in the day. So he's like hardcore, hardcore 3-D printing. Yeah, I know he's been in a couple of videos talking about it's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:10:36 Looking forward to it. All right. And I'm also looking forward to, I guess that's the end of the show. Hey, thank you guys so much for tuning in. We'll see you again. We hear you on the whole The Wandshow channel. not being a good place for the live show and the clips. It's been a very messy transition.
Starting point is 04:10:58 There's precedent for people doing it. Everything goes on one channel way. There's also a lot of precedent for people doing it the other way. Luke and I have to schedule a meeting basically to kind of go, okay, do we do yet another channel? And then, like, what, do we move all the clips over? I don't actually know the right answer right now, but we're going to figure it out,
Starting point is 04:11:20 and we do hear you guys that you don't want to subscribe to that channel as long as there's clips if all you're really interested in is the live show. So, yeah. Good to know. Kind of tough. See you next week. I don't know. It might be a different time.
Starting point is 04:11:39 Okay, same bad time, same bad channel. Bye!

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