The WAN Show - Windows Is Cooked For Gaming - WAN Show May 30, 2025

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

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Oh, what's up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show! We got a great show lined up for you guys this week. Microsoft, it has been found that Windows might not be great for handheld gaming. Also some other stuff going on with them. Here's another one. In Texas, there's an age verification law that will require companies like Apple and Google to verify the ages of users in order for them to use their app store. Wow, super cool idea in theory. How's this going to work in practice? We have no idea.

What else we got this week? Tariffs, because why not? Also, we're going to talk about some off-topic stuff I went to China and it was genuinely very interesting sorry you went there kind of terrifying but not for the reasons you would think China I never heard of it oh oh you mean China China China The show is brought to you today by see sonic Proton.

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pretty much left and right lately. They've, they had their whole fiasco with recall last year. Which they've just kept. Windows, we've got a video coming soon comparing original recall and new recall, and it is better but is still deeply it's still a recall deeply problematic nice Windows has just felt like such a bloated mess lately dude I had to go through the initial setup wizard

recently and it's just like I can I just use my computer can you just you don't need to know if I need it for entertainment or media or game. I mean, all of it, just move. Windows device setup is horrible. Get out of the way. It's actually terrible. None of this matters.

I remember like, I don't know, late 2000s, new device setup, honestly, MacBook or Windows was like kind of a cool experience and now it just sucks I don't know about MacBook. I haven't done it in a long time But the Windows laptop setup is terrible and then meanwhile Dave 2d compared to identical Legion go s's one with Windows 11 and the other with Steam OS the SteamOS version outperformed its Windows counterpart by, I gotta say, a shocking amount.

Like I remember, remember, not that long ago, when Windows consistently was faster than Linux for gaming. Yeah, yeah. That is no longer the case. Spider-Man 2, out of Cyberpunk, you guys are gonna have to go check out the video if you want the exact numbers, cause it's Dave2D's numbers.

But out of Cyberpunk, Helldivers 2, Doom Eternal, Spider-Man 2, and Witcher 3, only one of them was a win for Windows 11 compared to SteamOS, and just barely. Like I am talking by like, run to run variants, one frame per second difference And this is in spite of the fact that we're dealing with the proton compatibility layer Like that is mind-blowing

That's how far Linux drivers have come and that's how much less overhead Steam OS offers compared to Windows not to mention that on the SteamOS version of the Legion Go S, you're not paying for Windows. So it's over a hundred dollars cheaper at retail, according to his video. We also saw a similar performance delta in a video from Random Gaming HD's video comparing an identical system running both Windows 10 and SteamOS. So in this case, it was a desktop system with a 12400F processor, 16 gigs of RAM, a 6500XT GPU, and a 256 gig NVMe SSD. Steam OS once again won, this time in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Black Myth Wukong, and Forza Horizon 4.

CS2 was a win for Windows, but I mean, Steam OS got over 150 FPS, so it's not like it's really an issue anyway. Meanwhile, in other Windows gaming news, Microsoft is apparently temporarily side-lining their rumored Xbox handheld gaming device to focus on optimizing the Windows 11 gaming experience, especially for mobile devices. Their cloud gaming device and ROG Ally 2 collab seem to be unaffected. This is, I don't know, good news? I don't know what it is because on the one hand it's not like Microsoft clearly is incapable of building a streamlined low overhead operating system for gaming.

Literally, that's what runs on the Xbox. But, whether Windows has just gotten too bloated, or whether they've been unfocused, or whether their partners are not delivering on the driver quality that they need, and their... Yeah, probably not that as much. Partners are not delivering on the driver quality that they need and they're... Maybe? Yeah, probably not that as much. It's clear that Windows gaming has got, like, they just can't figure it out, can they? Yeah, my lack of enthusiasm for this, I think, is based around, like, practically every time

that they've tried to touch it. They've just either done nothing or made it worse, as far as my understanding goes. They've done some cool stuff. I mean remember about gaming mode was worse if you remember I'm not talking about gaming mode, but remember Vista had that like dude. Okay wins the wins the launch date of Vista I'm just saying I'm just saying January 30th 2007 okay in Vista it's been almost Okay, in Vista... It's been almost 20 years.

In Vista, there was a My Games folder that consolidated the location of all your game, like config files and save files and everything. I remember that. This is back before Cloud Save was just a thing you could take for granted in every game. And it was super useful because when you reformat it or whatever, you could just grab that folder,

make sure you back it up, and dump it into that folder again on the new system, except for the games that didn't put their stuff in there. Those ones you had to go hunting for, so it still kinda sucked. But yeah, Microsoft just can't, I mean, games for Windows Live seemed well-intentioned. What happened to that folder?

But was horrible, yeah, the folder went away. Games for Windows Live went away. That one we're happy about. We're stoked on that one. Yeah, we're pretty stoked. Except it didn't fully go away, did it? I mean, mostly. Yeah, the ways that it was bad back then are gone,

but they still have their Microsoft login, which is horrible. Oh, dude. You were talking the other day about how it just makes you re-login or something. So, you were talking the other day about how it just like it makes you relog in or something So no what happens is and I don't know if it's specific to Minecraft dungeons or something But because we would often go months between playing it my kids and I like played Minecraft Dungeons for a bit It's a Diablo clone. It's minecraft skinned. Anyway, it's kind of fun. So we'd go sometimes months between playing

so I would have to log in four accounts and for some reason mine was bugged so that if and of course your password manager doesn't work properly with like a pop-up inside a game. So sometimes the game would get bugged so the the prompt like wouldn't show up in the pop-up and you'd have to like go delete some config file to get it to show up and then When it would show up for some reason Something to do with my account whether it's because it's like an LMG account or whether it's because it's like a parent Account or something. I don't know, but if I type all my password That's it. I have to reset my password There's no like go back and try again

Nothing it immediately goes you need to reset my password. There's no like go back and try again, nothing. It immediately goes, you need to reset your password. If I enter it wrong one time. I enter your passwords wrong all the time. Well yeah, because my passwords are long and have special characters and stuff. So I'm at the point now where when I enter my Microsoft password, I'm like fingerpeck

to make sure that I get it right. Because I don't mind changing my passwords once in a while it's a good security practice what I don't like is changing my passwords all the time especially when they're ones that I use every day and I do kind of try to memorize because it's more convenient than you know unlocking my phone and open the app and then authenticate the app and then navigate I hate password and then navigate to the... Ah, I hate password managers. So where were we going with this?

Right, yeah, gaming on windows is an absolute dumpster fire. Dude, the fact that it takes like 10 minutes to go from like first opening the game to actually driving a car in Forza is I was just gonna bring up I was just gonna bring up Forza because I Actually really really liked horizon 5 and it's the first racing game in a very long time that I was like I want my friends to come play this with me. I Convinced one person to buy the game and play with me. I am very lucky that they had a great time with the game single-player because playing with the multiplayer just didn't work and I just stopped recommending the game to all my friends

because I was like we can't play together anyways so they'll either find it themselves or whatever I guess and it was purely because of like, Microsoft's junk matchmaking and login stuff. Ugh, you try to play Halo. You launch on a steamer, everything's fine, everything's fine, you're just like, plump, login. Well, cool. Invite people to party, maybe they don't show up, things don't work like a huge percentage of the time. Or they are working, but like you can't see their avatar. And we all know that seeing the avatar is the whole point anyway so they can sell more skin.

So get it right Microsoft. How does that part not work? I don't know it's... To be clear, I'm rooting for Microsoft to fix this. Like I'm super into it. Competition is good. I don't want a Steam OS monopoly in gaming any more than I want a Windows monopoly in gaming. That's not healthy either. I want this fixed, especially because there's always gonna be edge cases that, proton compatibility layer can't fix.

Older games or whatever the case may be, I want Windows to be a robust gaming platform. I'm starting to lose hope and This is interesting the battery life testing was fascinating Dave's video is called Windows was the problem all along and The full load tests are not that not that interesting You know the battery life when you're when you're really running everything full tilt Relatively similar. I mean not the same. You know, the battery life, when you're really running everything full tilt,

relatively similar. I mean, not the same, you know? Not the same at all, but relatively, at least within the same sort of area. Windows still uses. But when you're running like, lower, less demanding, like side-scroller type games. SteamOS absolutely steam rolls Windows.

Like to a degree that I wouldn't have thought was possible. We'll get more into it when we get to that actual section, but I was playing Final Fantasy VI on my laptop, on the plane, and I was very lucky that it had a full, fat power plug on the plane and I was very lucky that it had a like full fat power plug on the plane because it was not gonna last me very long and I'm playing Final Fantasy 6 dude like come on I yeah Windows battery life is so bad like you could you could run that game on a watch yeah easily these days come on oh Man I had my I had my own issues traveling and gaming on Windows

I'm finally okay. This should give you some idea of how deep my game backlog is I'm I finally picked up Psychonauts 2 Oh, yeah, that's been a bit. Yeah, it's been a bit anyway the point is I bought it back when it came out so Man what's uh what's Shaefer's company called again? Whatever I don't his developer. So they got my money, you know, so I Supported the game. I loved Psychonauts one. It was awesome anyway, so I'm finally I finally picked it up and My laptop was running it great. This thing has, I think like a 4070 or something like that in it, like pretty powerful GPU, you know, considering the thinness and the flexible form factor.

So I've got it all like set up in front of me and like tent mode. And I decided, and I regret this, but I decided when I was holding my ally and my laptop and a controller, I was like, I have to bring my laptop anyway. So why don't I just game on my laptop? Yeah, yeah, why bother? They both support my external GPU thing with the 4080 or 4090 or whatever in it, the XG Mobile. So why wouldn't I just bring my laptop?

That ended up not working out great at all. So first of all, when I tried to use my XG Mobile, I tripped the breaker on the airplane plug. So I wasn't able to use my external GPU anyway, because I guess it draws too much power, so that was irritating. Yeah, my laptop's pretty low power. Yeah, but that's fine, because I actually have a decent GPU on this thing anyway.

But then when I wanted to so I was able to pair my controller everything that was fine, but this is hilarious. I was on the plane's Wi-Fi and I guess we were flying China Air because we were going over to Taiwan and Somehow the game Okay, I don't know how this happened, okay? I have no idea. But I am guessing that somehow the network that I was connected to picked up my time zone or location or something and somehow the game picked that up and I was speeding through the initial setup menus and I accidentally selected Chinese for the language of the game, which normally wouldn't be that big of a deal, but seriously, Google this, I'm not imagining it.

Psychonauts 2 buries the language configuration in the accessibility menu, like... Accessibility menu? Yeah, instead of just having it, like, kind of obvious. Usually it's pretty early. If you're fighting your way, you know, to try to change the bloody language. And because my phone wasn't actually connected to the internet, I couldn't just use Lens to translate it

unless I bought another stupid wifi flight pass. Because they figured out, they figured out my trick. So I had this hack that I used to use on airplanes to share one wifi access across all my devices. Windows is actually super cool, supports mobile hotspotting from wifi to wifi. So lots of other devices support being connected to a landline and then sharing and tethering over Wi-Fi or being on 5G

and tethering over Wi-Fi or whatever but Windows supports sharing a Wi-Fi connection. Oh I'm gonna get to that Top Gear. So anyway somehow they've they've kind of figured that out I guess and they've done something with the Wi-Fi connection on most of the flights that I've been on recently that makes Windows think you're not connected. So the little globe in the corner is all like, nope, you're not connected. And then that grays out the mobile hotspot sharing thing. You can't force it, even though your connection totally works.

And I couldn't find, I looked up guides and I wasted most of, not most of, but I wasted a bunch of my expensive FlightPass Wi-Fi trying to figure out how to bypass the blocks that they had on my expensive FlightPass Wi-Fi. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'd be super open to it. Anyway, what did Top Gear say? Oh, shoot, I lost the comment I was going to get to. Oh yeah, Top Gear says, change the config file in Psychonauts. It doesn't work. So they have a guide that I Googled and found that if you get to. Oh yeah, Top Gear says change the config file in Psychonauts. It doesn't work.

So they have a guide that I Googled and found that if you wanna change it to, I think it's French or German or something like that, you go in the config file and you just put language that and then it will change to that language. But it doesn't appear to work for English because I guess the assumption is just that it was already English

and you were trying to change it to, I don't know, but it didn't work. So English and you were trying to change it to I don't know but it didn't work. So anyway I eventually managed to change it and I was gaming and then the lights on the plane went out because it was like night time time to sleep and I went to adjust the brightness of my screen and for some reason whether it's because I'm using a third party application now instead of armory crate on this thing like it's I forget what it's called, but it's super cool. Basically it takes all of the nightmare of Armory Crate and boils it down to this tiny little interface here.

Let me see if I can find it. Is this it? Nope. Yeah, here it is, G helper. That's what it's called. So there, it takes all of ArmoryCrate. No, I'll do it right now. Takes all of ArmoryCrate and makes it this,

which is awesome. And ArmoryCrate with the XG Mobile, the external GPU, will sometimes get bugged. You'll plug it in, but it won't prompt you to activate it or it's plugged in and it won't prompt you to deactivate it and it's not safe to, I literally bricked a mobile GPU that remember when you tripped on it and it unplugged the mobile GPU,

if you unplug it expectedly, I think that one literally died because I never got it working again. So it really matters. So anyway, this lets you just override it. It just has a button and you'd be like, XG Mobile, like it always works. So I don't know if it's because of this or because of something else, and you'd be like, XG Mobile, and it always works. So I don't know if it's because of this or because of something else, but I can't adjust

my brightness when it's plugged in. So in the dark of the plane, I have like the power of the sun beaming into my eyes. And then if I wanted to try to game on battery, dude, I'd have gotten less than an hour, for sure. Like, less than an hour out of this thing if I was actually trying to play a full fat 3D game. Okay, maybe more than an hour, but this is like a 10 hour flight. So I was like, well, I have nothing but bad options, I wish I just brought my stupid handheld. I forget what we were supposed to be talking about. I think we're just complaining about Windows.

Oh yeah, so that, well, well then I was doing great. Good job Linus. I will also bundle in that complaining about Windows means kind of complaining about the state of Windows laptops, because that's sort of what you're doing right now. And I will re-bring up the, what I now know is probably called the screen locking,

the screen locking problem that I had with my laptop. I haven't had it. Someone on the subreddit said it might be to do with your attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this. I haven't had a chance to actually do this because this was uploaded, like I was in the air by the time this was posted.

So I haven't had a chance to do it, but this makes so much sense. Yeah. So this is a- That I just believe it's it. Yeah. This is a thing where like, if you look away from the laptop, it blanks the screen. But here's my problem. Yeah.

I just think it basically doesn't work at all. That's my current stance on it. Cause it can be daytime and I'm staring right at it and it will just lock. It can be nighttime and I have something covering the webcam and it will work just fine for like an hour and then randomly lock. It's a fine line, dude. Because as a company like Microsoft, right, you have to give your partners room to differentiate their products. Otherwise, you end up, you might as well be Microsoft, right, you have to give your partners room to differentiate their products.

Otherwise you end up, you might as well be Apple, right? You end up with no innovation. You lose your special sauce. But you also have to just like keep the leash at a reasonable length because they're just gonna do dumb. This is so stupid. And my biggest problem with this is it doesn't tell you at all.

Right. Like if, you know, I slept the computer, woke it back up so that I could actually use it again. And then there was like a little boom and in the corner, it was like, by the way, that was us. But then you would want that to happen every time. I could turn this off if I want to. I could also at that point in time, say, don't tell me this again. Never prompt me about this again. But it would be really sick if it told me at least one time, because again, I haven't had time to change this setting. I pretty much guarantee you this is the actual problem. So like, no, I haven't tested it, but it makes so much sense that this would be it. Especially because

I ran into the hardware Canucks guys, while I was at Computex. And one of them told me that they saw that bit on the show. They have a very similar version of a Lenovo laptop and have the exact same problem. Okay, so it's probably that then Yes, probably the screen lock So now I have to go around and like tell everyone that I know that has this laptop and a bunch of people have reached Out being like yeah, I have the same stupid problem. I thought about returning it blah blah blah blah It's like Lenovo. Do you understand like? Everyone thinks you suck and it's just a software setting like people think your

laptop suck and are broken and that's not even the case. Outside of that I love that laptop. The amount of product problems that are caused seemingly by just nobody at the company actually using the product is mind-blowing. It has to be the case here. It's mind-blowing. Or it's a problem where you have a overly informed expert. Yeah, yeah, or that. Where they know what this is. Like, they just deal with it. Yvonne is doing an iPhone challenge right now.

So she just switched over to iPhone and getting WhatsApp backed up and migrated between Android and iOS is like inexcusably broken. The fact that that has, so she lost a bunch of message history, I lost a bunch of message history even though I mostly know what I'm doing. Like it can say, it will say, you're backed up to your, it'll tell you what Google account it's backed up to.

And then you go to restore it and it's like missing a bunch of stuff because there's like a specific way you have to do it when you're migrating between devices where you have to scan the QR code. So I, well I didn't really screw up because the QR code was there and I was trying to scan it but the camera was like blurry and there was no alternative. You have to scan the QR code. There's no other way and then I wasn't able to do it so I lost like four months of my message history because that part wasn't like backed up on that phone yet or something and it had to restore from one other thing and their backups are just broken. It's infuriating.

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No, I'm ready to move on to I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to move on from Windows in general. If it wasn't for anti cheat and just like application compatibility lock in. I don't see why I would use it anymore. If I could get away from multiple games that I play only working on Windows. And like genuinely right now, if I could get away from that, I would switch on Windows, and like genuinely right now. If I could get away from that, I would switch on my personal computer.

Maybe it's time for a Windows, or excuse me, a Linux challenge again. Another one? Maybe it's time. I've been telling, I keep telling myself, I'm gonna wait for SteamOS, you know, like the broad, and it's coming, like they have an installer that is now validated for non valve handhelds and

It does work on desktops as long as you've got a compatible desktop, which I I kind of I kind of do actually I think I have like a 79 does steam OS actually even in a 50x offer anything uniquely This is what sorry does it offer anything uniquely it offers being ready to go Does it offer anything uniquely? It offers being ready to go. So you can still install like the like there's no there's no special sauce just for SteamOS in relation to like Proton or anything like that. Not that I'm aware of, no. Yeah okay. No you should be able to have the full SteamOS experience on something else pretty much as long as you're willing to kind of configure it a little but yeah I don't think it needs much. I feel like want to do that yeah and that's fine we use different distros last time we totally did yeah I'm just I was trying to evaluate for myself

basically do I just want to use mint again because like that's what I would want to do right but then I want the best possible gaming setup so like can I still do that on me you should be able to. Probably. And realistically, you have more software troubleshooting capabilities than I do. So I would definitely lean toward the more set and forget ready to go Linux distro. I'm also like, I don't know how this works, but even with like a six year gap between using Mint,

it like immediately felt familiar again. So like, I kind of want to go back to that thing. Yeah. Because whatever way they've done it, Mint just feels really good to me. And what's nice about using a full desktop distro that's intended for that use case is that you're not going to be limited by some of the things that are not that way about SteamOS. SteamOS, to my knowledge, still doesn't have baked-in printer support.

Yeah, like I wonder if you're gonna be running into, like your aversion to wanting to set up things for gaming. I wonder if it's gonna set you up for failure in other ways. Yeah, could very well be. Admittedly, I didn't spend a long time, but I probably burned about half an hour trying to like install printer support on SteamOS because we were trying to use an ancient printer and we couldn't find a Windows driver that worked. I was like right Linux

What's the closest Linux machine that I have a steam deck? I'll just plug it into a steam deck Yeah, and yeah, totally didn't work. Yeah, someone in full plane chat said doing it on I don't know what they mean by it but I'm assuming they mean like proton stuff doing it on mint for the last three months super easy so far hell yeah mint got way popular somewhat recently because PewDiePie did his Linux switched Linux switched thing and he chose mint the influencer just casually influencing people. Just randomly doing a Linux-switched video. The system works. I didn't see it coming, but...

No, I mean, I know he's into tech, like, because he's referenced us, like, quite a few times over the years. I don't know, he's a funny character, because he's, on the one hand, like, one of the most, you know, recognizable internet personalities ever, and then, on the other hand, he seems to be most, you know, recognizable internet personalities ever. And then on the other hand,

he seems to be like kind of a recluse. Yeah. Like he apparently goes out of his way. I don't know this from him personally because of the thing I'm about to say, but he apparently goes out of his way to like not make new connections. Which, you know, honestly,

at this point, I kind of get it. Yeah. I know he just likes Japan a lot, but I know a significant part of the reason why he moved there was because he just doesn't really get recognized that often. Well, yeah, because I think generally speaking, they are not as obsessed with our cultural icons as we are with theirs.

Yeah. Although there are, I don't remember what they're called, but there's like- You know, opposite of a weeb? They are not as obsessed with our cultural icons as we are with theirs. Yeah There are I don't know what they're called, but there's like the opposite of a weeb. Yeah, they're into cowboy Shut up. No a hundred percent. Do you know about this? This is totally a thing This is totally a thing. What's the opposite of a weeb? The opposite of weeb a derogatory term for someone with an The opposite of weeb, a derogatory term for someone with an extreme obsession with Japanese culture, can be understood in a few ways. Oh wait, a Japanophobe? No, that's not what we're talking about. Westaboo? Is that it?

Is that what it's called? Is that what it's called? It might be what it's called. This is from rslash, what's the word? What you're looking for is West of boo there's no there's no way it's called West of boo it might be no way howdy my name is rawhide I'm a 27 year old Japanese Jap American Western culture fan for you foreigners I brand and wrangle cattle on my ranch. There's no way this is not that has to be Yeah My god West of who sounds legit West of who it is. Okay. I think we should probably move on. I don't know

This is the thing. I swear. I don't think we're going anywhere positive with this. I swear. It's a thing Don't make me start doing announcements I found a video look cowboy Tanaka Okay. Well, I don't want to here an Anti-web of sorts

Their cosplaying is Cowboys Hell yeah, dude. I can't tell who I think less of no one we don't judge anybody yeah Dan myself there's so many dude he's gonna regret that screw up for his and oh wow he's got the one of those super old-school scopes and everything Oh my goodness. Oh now they're cosplaying getting shot. Oh Totally sold it. This is kind of cool. I Mean it's got the chaps. Okay. Oh that guy went for it. Yeah, I took it off the screen I think that's enough of that. Yeah. Well, there was that one time where I watched what was it croquet competitive croquet on stream now. I'm watching

cowboy competitive Western Cosplay in Japan Messages Saibu Geki, we don't really do super chats or twitch bits. We do merch messages They are the way to throw money at your screen for streamers but also, hey, maybe like, I don't know, get something in return. All you got to do is go to LTTstore.com, add something to your cart, and boom! You're gonna see a little box that pops up and prompts you to leave a merch message. It'll go to producer Dan who will reply to it or forward it or

curate it for me and Luke and there are some pretty cool things that you could add to your cart this year. Dun dun dun dun dun dun mystery items are back! Available for a limited time. Mystery t-shirts, mystery hoodies and mystery screwdrivers are available for as little as what's that? What the heck? $17.99 Canadian for a mystery shirt 49.99

Canadian that's not even a real money I mean it's real money but 59.99 Canadian for a mystery screwdriver that's right my friends these are actually really low prices you're welcome I guess American costs there you go and you've got USD. Yep. Very nice. And back to Linus'. So yeah, 50 US dollars for mystery screwdrivers. Hold on, can we go back to... Yep.

Yep. 40 US dollars for mystery hoodies. And I believe we actually specify what the ones could be. Nope. No, we don't. Random. He takes it back. No, we don't. Random. He takes it back. We do on the screwdriver. Sure. We recommend one purchase per customer.

If you order more than one hoodie, you may get two or more with the same design. Yeah, okay, we apparently are not saying. I have a feeling we didn't for the t-shirt and the sweater, because there's probably a wider variety of them. The screwdriver, there's two, and they're both similar. I actually don't know if that's true. One

moment please. I don't think the screwdriver one is correct because I believe all of at least one of the screwdriver, the knock to a colorways is out of stock. Oh what did, what just happened? Did Nick just hang up on me? I mean, I wouldn't blame him. Baste. Beat me to it! By like seconds! That is not baste. You're baste.

Oh, thanks. Hey, you're live on the WAN Show. Question for you, good sir. Hello? Are you there? Yeah, can you not hear me? Oh yeah, I can hear you now. That's perfect, wonderful. It's loud and clear.

Question for you. It says that the mystery screwdrivers are either knocked to a beige or knocked to a brown, but I thought they were something else. I thought they were a thing we talked about today. No, that's not for today. That's for down the line. Oh, okay.

Yeah, different thing, different thing. Oh, okay. Do we actually have Noctua Beige and Noctua Brown? We have some kicking around. I don't think there's too many, so if people want to get a deal, they should probably jump on it. But yeah, we have a few left. Okay, good chat. Thanks, Nick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Do we know what hoodies are in the mystery bin? Oh, it's a bunch.

I don't know. There's, again, there's like not a super huge amount. It's a bunch of like, I would say stuff from within the last two to two and a half years probably. So I can't give any more indication than that really. It's a bunch of different stuff. Good chat. Thanks Nick.

All right. Yep. Bye. Okay. Well, there you go guys. We literally don't even know what it is. Cool. Sick. All we know is that the price is right. Dan, do you want to show them how merge messages work?

Yeah, sure. I've got a couple here. Just got a couple here. Just got a promotion to Cybersecurity Analyst. What's your best cybersecurity tip? I would not ask Linus that, but... What the heck? What does that even mean? We were literally talking before the show about how...

I have cybersecurity tips. Okay, well one of my tips is that if your infrastructure team implements a login system That maybe they should tell people about it literally every time that you have to log into something you have to email them to send you An invite but that is not very convenient It could be the right way to go if you're like securing Fort Knox or something. Yeah, well we aren't It could be the right way to go if you're like securing Fort Knox or something. Yeah, well we aren't Hey, man those those I

Love my infrateam, but I don't I don't love having to email someone for an invite to log into my stuff What if we made it 74 changes in two days? Oh? Yeah, here's another here's another cyber security tip. What was that email? Did you get that email that I sent you? You send me so many emails. I do not send you so many emails go ahead check your inbox How many emails have I sent you in the last week now? I want you to guess first how many emails in the last week? There's no way it's so many five five. That's not so many emails preferred being Correct one number one email expression. It's more than five So many five five that's not so many emails preferred being correct It's more than five I don't know how many okay fine. Let's see how many emails I've sent you in the last week. I don't even send you that many emails this guy. No, it's so many emails five emails Working hard loop. Yeah, I have five emails to reply to there's so many was working very

I have five emails to reply to. There's so many. I was working very hard this week. There's so many. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhh you're gonna be jet-legged dude. I am jet-legged. I know. Yeah, that's why I said, and I'm sick. God when you still like okay one two three four Yeah, I don't send him that many emails. Oh my god was I right? Six darn okay, so we can both be right seven you can be the closest without going over for how many it actually was And I can be right that I don't send you that No, I mean the one that I sent you with that that one that was like full of hyperlinks that was just all like hey here's things you might like okay you haven't looked at this yet you can look at it later. When did you send this to me? I don't know like today yesterday. Can we find out what's up with this? At some point? No that's the other thing. It doesn't matter we don't actually have to have a meeting about it right now. It's WAN show. Okay in that case while he looks that up there is one quick the other thing. It doesn't matter, we don't actually have to have a meeting about it right now.

It's WAN Show. Okay, in that case, while he looks that up, there is one quick clarification on the mystery deals. This thing, by the way, if it helps, that was Google. Oh, okay. I've had issues with my spam filter. I've been getting useful emails in my spam from especially other creators, even ones that I've corresponded with before so

like I have in the last six and in the last few months I've had emails from snazzy labs go to my spam oh shoot I'm not that popular not that many creators email me but there were at least a couple there were at least a couple so sorry I wanted to clarify the mystery deals are for this weekend so be sure to save at LMG.GG slash mystery. Dan, do you want to go ahead and throw that in all the chats? Sure thing. And do you want another one?

Are you like reading that email right now? Yes. So, here's something I would suggest. If you're rolling out some new feature, maybe make sure that the email announcing the rollout does not look like you're testing if I'm like, if I'm falling for phishing scams. Like that looks like the most scam nationist email that I have have ever gotten including some of the bait emails during our like fishing internal tests like are you looking at this email yes it hits from a domain I've never seen before or not a domain it's from an address I've never seen before contains hyperlinks like this long many of them like okay ah yeah it's good I

don't know what it is it's one of those things where you know what like the team does so much stuff and so much good and I feel bad for them because when you work on okay here's here's my advice. Here's my cybersecurity tip that will be very applicable to your new job. Don't take it personal when the only time anybody acknowledges you is when something goes wrong. Which is how infrastructure works.

Which is how infrastructure and cybersecurity roles basically just seem to work. You know, they say shit rolls down a hill, but that's not actually true. Shit rolls onto the infrastructure team. And it sucks and everyone else, you know, if you catch us at a time when we're calm, rational human beings who are not like wanting

to put our fists through our computers, we love you. You know, we think you're cool. In like a kind of D&D, you should probably shave your neck beard and put on some deodorant kind of way, you know? Like we- Oh. What? Oh, I'm gonna add- okay. Oh.

I need to talk about that, but I'm gonna add it to the later on topics. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, okay. It's- I will- we'll talk about oh dude Dude, my flight to Taiwan the guy next to me. I swear to God hadn't brushed his teeth in like the last six months Okay, we're gonna talk about it now Go for it finish yours off brush your fucking teeth. I okay. It's not about you It's if you don't care if your whole mouth rots out

or whatever, like, you know what, power to you, you don't need teeth, that's fine. There's lots of things that you can do with no teeth. In fact, there are things you can do better with no teeth. Just saying. Dentures are based. But brush your fucking teeth if you're gonna be within, like, I kid you not, six feet.

There were people, now dude, back at NCIX, there were people I worked with that I could smell their breath from six fucking feet away. Like it was disgusting. Nothing smells worse than rotted ass meat between teeth while someone's talking to you. And if you're a close talker, I swear to God You brush your teeth multiple times a day if you're gonna be a close talker you can get all in close talking to people

It's disgusting. Okay, so my my thing on this I'll address it now the flight back. So I'm flying back from Hong Kong. Yeah There's this dude next to me and my thing thing is like, I try to sleep on planes because I can sleep on planes. So I should exercise my ability to sleep on planes, especially when it's a 12 hour flight and you're trying to flip time zones and all this kind of stuff. This is not the worst person I have ever smelled in any context, but it's the worst person I've been stuck next to on a plane by an incredible amount to the point where I couldn't sleep because he smelled so bad that it was like, it like hurt. And it was his breath. So I wouldn't smell it all the time. And then he'd like look at me or look, I was window

seat, unfortunately, I usually like aisle because I can put my leg in the out, but, um, he would look left out the window or whatever, and it would just punch me in the face. And I would like drift off and be asleep for like a couple minutes. And then he would breathe in some way that I could smell it and it would actively wake me up. One of my solutions at one point was I fished my deodorant out of my bag and I like scraped the top off of it and then rubbed just to, so I'm not rubbing armpit on my face, rubbed deodorant into my mustache and then that worked for like

half an hour. Just to mask the smell? Yeah. That worked for like half an hour. That would be, oh that would be its own flavor of terrible. I ended up but it was bad, but it was Significantly better. Okay, then this guy's Insane like death breath and what's what's up with what's up with planes not having the little fan knob anymore Yeah, I had it. It wasn't enough. I didn't have it on mine Oh, man, I had nothing nothing. I tried I tried the the fan thing. I tried so much stuff. It was, it was, I didn't have any gum. It was, it was really bad. Like it, like I got off the plane like genuinely very angry because I had just spent 12 hours like smelling just, I literally, I can't, okay.

He wasn't old enough for this to be the case, and this is getting a little bit morbid. I don't even know if I want to go to. You're just gonna say he smelled like death, smelled like he was rotting? But quite literally because I've smelled that before. Right. Like to the point where I was, I was,

and I'm sick now, I'm not saying I got it from him, but I was wondering like, is this like bad? Because it's actually particles. It's bad to not sleep. Yeah. Like keeping you awake is going to make you immunocompromised, which makes you more likely to get sick. Dude. I walked the plane to see if there was another seat that I could go in. And I was going to offer, like if there was a economy plus seat and it was the only one that was open, I was going to offer to pay like mid-flight like just move me out of

here God there wasn't anything the whole plane was full this isn't a competition okay this is not me making everything about me and I didn't have fix go ahead press the button sure yeah we're even it there we go but my flight back sucked too so we we took off from Taipei and I like passed out and that was actually my plan was to sleep the first half of the flight and then stay up the second half so that I could then go to bed because your sleep on a plane is not proper sleep. So if I could sleep for five hours, stay awake for five hours, drive home, be up for four hours. That's

like nine hours awake. This is exactly what I tried to do. And then go to bed. Yeah. Like, let's go. So I was, everything was going according to plan. I passed the math out before we were probably even at cruising altitude. And then I like woke up from one of the deepest sleeps that I've ever been in on a plane. And we were descending and I was like, did I just sleep through a 10 hour flight?

Like that's incredible. I feel... Sometimes time does seem weird on planes. Yeah, I feel refreshed, but, oh, I don't, oh, that was a deep sleep, but I don't feel like I was out for 10 hours. And wait a second, that's not YVR. What airport are we descending into?

Did I get on the wrong plane? Yeah, exactly. What is KIX? How is that even possible? We were descending into Osaka. Yeah Or ITM. Is it ITM? Whatever. It's it was ITM or KIX. It was one of them. The point is we were headed to Osaka. So it turned out that we had actually gone about an hour off the coast of Japan turned around because of a medical emergency, and we were landing

in Osaka at about 3.30 a.m. Japan time. So, to be clear, okay, I am grateful that I am not the person who had the medical emergency, and I am more than happy to be inconvenienced if it meant saving their life or whatever. Okay? Not about that. Do you have any idea what it was? No, I don't know. Yeah. But they like did the thing, like, is there a doctor on the plane? Like, just like in the movies and stuff. Yeah. So there was that.

I didn't hear that part because I was out for that part, but Nick was seated up in the front and he told me. Wow. And apparently there was and they like tried, but they had to, so they had to turn it around. So we land and it was a combination of being frustrated at the lack of communication because I Missed the hay we're landing in Osaka and then for we were probably on the ground for 45 minutes to an hour before they even told us Yeah, so

Osaka airport is closed because it's like, you know, for four by then 430 in the morning So it's just like a skeleton crew, right? Like there's enough people there for you to land but they couldn't let us out in the terminal So so yeah, we're gonna be here. We're gonna be here for a few hours On the plane while while people get to work so that they can refuel the plane and do all of our free flight Chacks and takeoff so my 10 10 hour flight that was supposed to be direct ended up being a 15 hour flight where we went past Japan, back to Japan,

waited around for literally like three hours on the ground, probably three, three and a half hours, and then took off back to Vancouver. But- I assumed you got off the plane. No. But it I assumed you got off the plane. No. Oh. But it could have been worse. I was chatting with someone else at one point.

Was it when we were out in the terminal? I don't know, it doesn't matter. Like once we got to Vancouver. It was either when we got to Vancouver or it was my seat mates. I don't remember, but I was chatting with someone. And this is hilarious. They actually came from Osaka.

So they had a connecting flight through Taipei for Vancouver. So they went from Osaka to Vancouver, over Osaka, back to Osaka, and then on to Vancouver. So like, that's so so that means they went so they had to be at the airport, you know, two hours early, let's's say and then they had a two and a half hour flight to Taipei. They waited for probably you know an hour So let's say they're up to let's say an hour and a half. So let's say they're up to six hours now Then they had a 15 hour stupid multi-leg flight. So they were dude they were like Brutal like over 20 hours of actual airport and flight. I feel bad for them. That is pretty rough.

What are we doing right now? Explaining- One merch message. Oh. Yeah, I like merch messages. Let's do a merch message. How about another merch message? Sure, why not?

What was the question? What was the last- Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, they did good. Good job. Thanks. That's how you send a merch message, all right? Honestly, yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, they did good. Good job. Thanks. That's how you send a merch message, all right? Honestly, when we get derailed that hard, that is probably true. Yeah. I try and find them sometimes. Quality message. People just do that. Dear DLL, love the

screwdriver and hoodie, phone pocket, what is the most surprising video that did well and what was the most surprising video that flopped? Oh man. Picking out one out of the like 6,000 videos or whatever, honestly not that easy. There have definitely been examples of LTT videos that performed in ways that I didn't expect. I mean I'd say the biggest surprise of all time has gotta be the original firetruck video. There's no way anything could surprise me more than unboxing some stupid toy and it getting nine million views or whatever.

I met the guy from Arctic who headed up the toys project. Oh, shut up. While I was in the airport in Taiwan, heading to Hong Kong, we hung out in the line getting onto the plane and like talked about it and everything and he handed me his business card and like, it's legit.

I know that guy. That is wild. Yeah. Okay, okay. It's a fun random contact that I have now. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I don't think this is on par, but this is something. I was getting fried chicken

in the food court of the tech mall, and I ran into the CEO of Trix. Oh, wait, were you with me? You were there for that? Yeah, that was pretty crazy. That was another the day before Comfitex. I went to, I like going to random restaurants in Taipei, because they're often so good. I stepped into one random restaurant just called Pay My Tuition, which I thought was a hilarious name, so I went for it and it was fantastic. Great restaurant, great food, et cetera. But I was sitting there for a while just at a bar because they only have like two tables.

So I was eating at the bar. And there's a guy sitting next to me and he randomly sparks up conversations. We're talking for a little bit and I ask him what he does. And he was a systems engineer. He was a lead systems engineer at Nvidia he's like one of their lead people for making those like AI appliances I was like uh okay had no idea who I was not not interested in like the standard tech side of things at all purely joined Nvidia to do AI stuff okay crazy like hadn't even heard of Linus act things at all purely joined in video to do AI stuff okay crazy like

hadn't even heard of Linus actives at all really yeah like does not care about that side of things in the slightest all right I'm looking for videos that only got less than 600,000 views we've most of these are pretty expected. Me versus a pool cleaning robot. Yep, that checks out. Today's video, so that'll still get more views. The Seasonic coverage at Computex, that one makes sense because YouTube CMS still doesn't really account very well for multi-person managed channels. So two people had the video metadata editing open at the same time. One of them saved their changes and put it public. And then another person had it unlisted and saved that.

So it went unlisted. And then they were like, oh no, and set it public again, but by then the momentum's completely dead. Which video was that? Um, Seasonic's new power supply that has temperature and current sensing. The burning CPUs one? To keep it from burning GPUs, yeah. I was wondering why that got so low views.

Um. That makes sense. Here's a sponsored thing on an OBSBOT camera. Uh, that weird... Man, it's like all like showcases. Answering your questions about 5G. What is this? What the heck is this video? Can 5G be slow? Oh, this was actually a good video.

Okay, yeah, this is one that I expected to do better. It was it was sponsored by T-Mobile, but it ended up being legitimately a pretty good video because we yeah, we had a couple talking points for them, but we stayed really, really fact focused in it. And yeah, I honestly I thought it was a good question it's not a great thumbnail honestly I thought it was a good question though and I thought we did a good job of answering it for a sponsored video the the like dislike ratio if I recall correctly was like pretty good like people who watched it seemed to have enjoyed it wait no it was not it

was super terrible. Okay, I wonder why. Okay, now I just really don't remember. I thought it was a good video, but- How old is this? A few years, right? Yeah, oh dude, this is years old. If I remember correctly,

people were just angry at T-Mobile at the time. I don't think it had much to do with- Really? I thought people were chill with T-Mobile. Back then. They've had quite the ups and downs, so I'm not sure. All right. Yeah. I think people are just mad that it was sponsored, which makes sense, but also

I thought the video was fine because we basically didn't even really do their talking points. I mean, Jack- I was surprised that the mineral oil short that Sammy and I did at Computex did so well. Oh, I'm not that surprised. Shorts do pretty okay. And Sammy is like the shorts whisperer around here. So I gotta say, I honestly don't get that one that he and Elijah did on the Acer Predator 21X.

22 million views. Yeah. And like, I know cognitively that part of what makes a short perform is that it kind of leaves you still hungry because it makes you like, like, is it over already and like, like, start watching it again? You have to have more than 100% average view duration in order for a short to pop off, basically. 100% average view duration in order for a short to pop off basically So like I know that But I just found that video so

lacking in information and Like it was like for me personally for my millennial brain where I want beginning middle end. I want closure from my story I Just found that video so deeply unsatisfying that I just don't understand how it performed that well. And it banged, dude. I know. I know. I don't get it. I don't get it. Maybe I should just... I clearly can't connect with the young kids anymore. Maybe I should just start Twitch streaming. They don't seem to have trouble with it

Sorry excuse me YouTube streaming oh What platform is he on these you got it? I was good. Yeah, you got a sweat You got a switch when you do that I also need a mustache All right and a Certain kind of mustache yeah, yeah, okay. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, maybe a bear costume The only reason why I said it was I was like most people are gonna get this anyways Do you remember that time that we were doing you might not you might have been on a float plane by this point Do you were you ever aware of the time that I dressed in like a bear costume to do a spot for tunnel bear? Tunnel bear I feel like was my time, but I don't think I remember this dude they

were not into it I have no idea if they're still around I think they changed hands and got like sketchy but I'm not sure I mean that's classic that's classic VPN stuff yeah well it looks like they're still here I don't know who owns them right now Because my info on that change hands got sketchy thing is like very old So it's very possible they change hands again, or that my info is just wrong. I don't know Man, I can't even I can't even find this but we were definitely tunnel bears owned by McCaffey Okay Man, I wear all kinds of funny outfits

Look at this What was I thinking Is this hilarious Fun fact by the way. I first wore this jacket. I think before he did just saying Do you remember when we went to value village for this yeah yeah yeah I was it was not an intentional homage but I absolutely love it so now that it's done I'm gonna say it was intentional he's awesome too so like sure why not okay hold on let's try bear costume instead of bear suit.

It was very similar to this bear costume. It may have been the same bear costume, but that isn't me. Yeah, sorry. I can't find it. I'm not sure why people are having trouble finding it. It's the the PSU video he's talking about is called the real solution to burning GPU connectors. There's no way you can't see it. It's on the YouTube page. If you go to the YouTube page, click on videos and scroll down, it's right there. Thumbnail has him doing this and holding a PSU and it says not a GPU on it.

Cool. You can find it, I believe in you. What are we supposed to be doing? I think we did a, I think that was a merch message. Oh, okay. More topics. Yeah, we could do that. Are we supposed to finish announcements? be doing? I think we did a merch, I think that was a merch message. Oh okay, more topics, yeah we could do that. Are we supposed to finish announcements? We could go off the back of what we were just talking about, talk about miners. Oh right, boink. Oh right, boink is not the way to transition out of that. What are you guys doing?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh God. Ugh. Luke, can you just be jet lagged every week? This is great. Time to do your content. Ha ha ha. Oh no.

Okay. You know, you could salvage this at any point by just starting to talk about the thing that we're actually talking about. Well, is it boink or is it? Boink. Okay. Uh, where is the notes for that? I thought that's what we were talking about.

No. Oh! Oh, you wanted to do that topic! Yeah. About the Texas age verification law. No, I thought we were talking about the Boink pentathlon like mining or something. Oh, no. Like the other kind of mining like like using compute for you know to do stuff. I mean, I think you do that too

sometimes. Normally the FBI gets involved. Okay, alright. Boink pentathlon 2025 for two weeks the LTT forum Boink team battled it out against other tech communities in the Boink Pentathlon hosted by Seti Germany. This was our best showing yet with over 50 participants and we secured silver overall, which is our highest placement in all seven Pentathlons we've entered. Huge thanks to everyone who joined in

and put their hardware to work for a good cause. You can head to linustechtips.com to join in on upcoming folding events and contribute some computing power for science. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, we can talk about minors now. Just a minor issue, Texas age verification law. On May 27th, Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill into law that requires Apple and Google to verify the age of users in order for them to use their App Store. This law will go into effect January 1st giving the- wow that's like dude that's like seven months to figure out for a problem nobody has solved yet. That might sound like a long time for you, it's like not at all.

That is like nothing. Okay, sorry, we'll go into effect January 1st and for users under the age of 18, they will be required to have parental consent in order to download apps. An Apple spokesperson gave a statement right away saying, we believe there are better proposals that help keep kids safe without requiring millions of people to turn over their personal information. Google has not yet made a response. This bill is intended to assist in KOSA, the Kids Online Safety Act,

which is meant to help protect children online and protect them from social media apps. The general concept man trust me I super agree with. The same Apple spokesperson spoke up about the concern with privacy and the need for this to even download apps like weather updates and sporting apps. I don't care about the second part. Yeah I don't think I care too much about that. Hold on. I don't know why my comments didn't make it into the notes here.

So here's kind of what, here's my initial take is, like I'm not even fundamentally opposed to the idea that children should not be able to make in-app purchases and should not be able to download random apps without parental consent. I would even, you know, I would be able to download random apps without parental consent. Sure. I would even, you know, I would be open to something like the equivalent of ESRB for apps.

So if you have a, you know, a minor account, then you know, this app contains mature content. I think that, I think that even is implemented. They already have that type of stuff. Yeah, but I'd be okay with like an actual like standards board rather than just leaving it to Apple and Google to police this. Yeah. So instead of just being a- it's a lot of self-reporting

Yeah block things that have been reported as bad. It would be more of that Explicitly allow things that have actually been vetted. I'd be totally down for that I don't think that gambling should be allowed teen my I Don't remember why okay? I don't remember why. Okay. I think it's user... Diverse content, sure. Diverse content, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

I think it's because we have UGC, user generated content. Yep, that makes sense. So. Shoot, what was I gonna say? Right, right, right, right, right. So, you know, I personally, I think anything with loot box, gotcha, any kind of gambling elements

should automatically be for mature audiences only. Like I'd be totally on board with that. So side load of VPN. But it's always hilarious to me when administrations that claim to be anti-regulation, right? Anti-big government put extremely burdensome regulation in place with zero concrete plan for how that could possibly be executed. And really not a lot of time for these enormous slow companies to try to figure this out. How the fuck are they going to do this?

Especially in a way that's like safe and okay for the kids. And well, not just the kids, everyone! Because if you're going to verify kids, you basically have to verify everyone. How do you verify kids without verifying everybody? That you're not a kid, yeah. Yeah. So all of a kid, yeah. Yeah. So all of a sudden, this is going to be like a Texas sized honey pot. Get it?

Because it's in Texas? Yeah. It's a Texas law. It's pretty good. And everything's bigger in Texas. Dude, it's true, though. I went there for not the first time, but the first time that I went there and drove around and stuff.

They have gas stations that are bigger than our Costco's. And then there will be one on the other side of the street too, just in case. By the way, it turns out, yeah, thanks, Clapton. I am not bigger in Texas. I am exactly the same size there. Perhaps if I'd been born in Texas and suckled on barbecue. That might not have been true. You might have had a lot to eat while you were there. You might have been a little bit bigger.

Oh, yeah, I'm not taller, probably. You weren't playing badminton while you were there. OK, I might have been a little bigger. Yeah, maybe. That's that's stupid Yeah, so Speaking of stupid so this is dumb is there anything else for us to talk about here other than just like really I don't think We've all thought out about here other than just like really I don't think I don't think I would trust any state or provincial level government to just hold an online registry that is supposed to be secure but also clearly linked with Google and Apple systems if

there's gonna be any kind of handoff and enforcement of this oh you wait you think like States gonna do anything I don't think so. So what they're just mandating that Apple and Google need to maintain these databases? I think so. There's no part in this where they're saying that they're gonna do anything about it. This is so dumb. I suspect it's gonna be like an upload your ID type of situation this is so dumb this is so dumb you could upload any ID oh yeah a forged one too well yeah yeah and like is our Apple and Google really incentivized to really make sure that there that is not forged no also damn son it's a lot easier to forge a digital

document than a physical one like if lot easier to forge a digital document than a physical one. Like if you have to forge an actual ID, a physical ID that's like on plastic and all that kind of stuff. To be clear, that's very doable too. Oh yeah, it has been for many a year. Just forging a like crappy cell phone picture of one

is definitely easier than forging a real like convincing shiny UV light at it one. Yeah for sure ah So, I don't know man. Can I just take a moment here though to say that? I've seen dumb politicians from every party This just happens to be oh, yeah a super dumb proposal from a particular party, and I find the irony of we are the party of small government, oh by the way, tech giants need to collect even more per- must, by law, collect even more personal information about our citizens. Delicious.

We're in like an extremely- That is like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, irony, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. That is delicious citizens. Delicious. We're in like an extremely- That is like, mm, mm, irony. That is delicious irony. Delicious. We're in a time of extreme unrest and frustrations, like globally. And I think it's, I can't personally think of a government that, the people under said government are like stoked on right now. And I also can't really think of like a party trying to get in that everyone's like, yes, I'm very excited about this. What I'm usually am seeing is I'm excited about change, not that I'm excited about the thing

that's replacing it. They're just like, oh, goodness, I need this thing that's currently here gone. And I'm excited that this other thing might come in and take it away. Not I'm excited that this other thing might come in and take it away, not I'm excited that this other thing is so good. Yeah. We were talking about this recently. There's a lot of that. We're seeing these vast pendulum swings just because people are working super frustrated with whether it's inflation or other economic hardship. Aging populations. So a lot of the paying to support those aging populations is on a more youthful population that has been massively disadvantaged compared to said populations that they are now supporting.

And also- Which is a very frustrating situation to be in. And is disadvantaged in terms of numbers. Yeah. It's tough out there. We're also dealing with a massive overspending globally from governments for a very extended period of time. And in many cases for no reason. So now that things are challenging

and we actually need to spend, the coffers are empty. And not only are the coffers empty but you have extreme amounts of debt that you're servicing constantly and this is like to be clear I'm not talking about Canada I'm not talking about the States I'm talking about practically the whole world like this is this is not this is Sweden that has that sovereign wealth fund or way. It's just like a Norway Yeah, that's right where they're just like rolling in it. Yeah, I'm not talking about them. They are they are As far as I can tell they're doing great Where's it? Yeah. Yeah, you go to their website you go to the

Norway Bank investment management website and just right on the front. They're like what up? 19 trillion we're doing sick. Whatever a knock is knock. Yeah, let's see. What's a knock? You got this can he even compute you can't you can't won't do it He can't just like triple click Luke can't even compute when he's jet-lagged you can't triple click it. That's so annoying Why would you highlight knock because I am gonna do this? Okay, what is this two and a half a decimal really in Canadian dollars just Literally it couldn't even display on one line. Yeah, well there's sense. Yeah but look, it's two lines. Yeah, it's true.

Still. Yeah. That's wild. But that's that's so baller, dude. Holy. Holy. And as far as my understanding goes, something that's really funny about this is apparently there was and I could be wrong with this. I don't know. I'm not Norwegian, but apparently there's Norwegian people frustrated that like, you know, the whole tariff thing going on in the States, but they're frustrated because American stocks are going down and this Norway fund is like invested in American stocks. So they're like, damn it, America, fix your fix your economy. Our stock investments aren't doing as well. Figure it out. Hey, come on.

Yeah. So they show like again These are their investments right yeah ex on Apple Microsoft and video like this is a lot of American stuff Yeah, oh man alphabet. Yeah We don't want to share of the world's largest companies. Yeah, you do yeah Okay, oh Dan wants us to do sponsors. Let's do one more topic real quick first. WWDC 2025 is almost here.

iOS and macOS are rumored to switch up their numbers to match the upcoming year, which means, oh, the upcoming year. Oh, really? So iOS and macOS 26 would be incoming this year? Okay. Oh man, so I was ready to be really excited about this because this actually makes it really easy to tell

like how old something is. Apple is not my friend. Normally when it comes to their naming schemes, they're really good about some stuff. Like iPhone is super clear. It's the iPhone. Well, there's a number on it that indicates the generation. Sometimes.

And it's plus if it's big or max if it's really big. And also pro if it's like more better or something. You can kind of break it down. They stumbled one time. You can kind of break it down. Whereas a lot of their other stuff, it's like this is Mac Pro. It's like what f***ing Mac Pro is it? Does it even have expansion slots and removable memory? I don't know. Okay, they all have expansion slots I think. Oh no, they don't, right, because the trash can didn't. So like, what even is it?

I don't know, it's Mac Pro, and sometimes we put a year on it, and sometimes we just don't. But I was pretty into this as long as it was gonna be the year of it actually being. Okay, okay, you know what? No, this makes sense, because if they're announcing it at WWDC 25,

then that means it would actually be the OS that they're rolling in 2026. So actually, okay, I love it. I actually really like this. There's a Vision OS-inspired interface coming to all Apple devices called Solarium. This will be a big overall. These are rumors, by the way, hoping to modernize and unify operating systems across their product line.

I have a hard time imagining how you would unify the experience in Vision OS with devices that you know go in your pocket or sit on your lap or whatever. Vision OS 3 apparently is also coming. Not much is known but they're allegedly working on an eye scrolling feature for the Vision Pro. What they really need to work on is a this thing is not horrible to wear feature for the Vision Pro and just getting out of the way of the developers of adult content because we all know that that's what people are using these devices for but... It drives most technology. I mean most come on it does not drive... It drove cameras, it drove a lot of PC stuff, it drove a lot of phones. You're

right it's not most technology but it's like a massive percentage of consumer electronics. Isn't that basically why VHS won? Yeah, if I remember correctly. Like it's a really big driver of tech. Anyway. Waterproof electronics too. Yep, never thought about that.

There's apparently a dedicated gaming app also on the way. The software will serve as a launcher for titles and centralize in game achievements, leaderboards, communications, and other activity. Oh cool, it's the Windows games folder thing. This will replace Game Center, which debuted in 2010. Oh yeah, oh this isn't in the thing for WWDC rumors, but Apple bought a game studio.

And it's based in Vancouver. Apple bought a Vancouver game studio for the first time. Apparently, this is according to Yahoo Finance, Apple bought a game studio. And it is a two person team behind the game, Sneaky Sasquatch. What? What?

I think this is verbal irony. Apparently, Sneaky Sasquatch is really good. I've never tried it. No, that's sick. And I'm happy for the two people. It's just like, how did they, that's so random. Like you're Apple, okay? You have Apple money.

And you're like, we're gonna take gaming seriously. We're gonna work on all this like, you know, developer assistance to help them, you know, get things running on metal, and we're gonna build, we're gonna build GPUs that are super powerful into our chips, so you're gonna know that if there's any Apple device, it's got a powerful GPU. We're the leader in mobile gaming monetization, and we've got Apple money, we're

going to make an investment, we're going to buy a developer, we're buying sneaky Sasquatch. Sean Float says it's a great game, which is fine, but just like you have Apple money. Like how did this, the thing that I'm getting stuck on is how did this even happen? Like, do one of the people behind this, one of the two people behind this game, like know somebody in the acquisition department at Apple? I mean, I'm sure they have relationships

with people at Apple. It was apparently like at the top of the App Store for a while and like... Hell yeah. My only speculation is that Apple wants to like go hard on gaming and they just like want these two people to do it or something. Because there's no way... There's no way they're just buying two... buying this like two-person studio so that they can own sneaky Sasquatch 2, you know, the sneak in game. Like I don't, I don't, they-

I just, I wonder like, that's a lot of pressure for those- I'm sure they'd be happy to just take 30% of their sales. Two people. Like, but that's been the Apple model. Why would we buy a game developer when we can take more profit than they're gonna make? Do you think this is them just being really mad at Epic? Mr. Tim? No, I don't think this has anything to do with that this must have been in in progress for pages might

not have had to be it's only two people yeah but what would Tim Sweeney have to do with this oh them just like wanting to be more competitive in games so they can try to poop on fortnight I guess, but like, um... Too Sneaky Too Squatch. That is a pretty great name for the second game. That is that is actually a really good name. All right. Anywho. WWDC.

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and taking an art class. That's not true. That's all you told me you were doing. You were there for one day. Yeah, because I was going to China. Well, yeah, but like, you were in that other place for one day. Yeah.

It was like 18 hours or something. So you were in that other place for one day. Yeah, so it was like 18 hours or something So you were there for a really long layover and I had to sleep for part of that So you were there for 18 hours? Yeah during which you went on a hike and Took an art class. No, I thought you went on. Oh, did you skip the hike skip the art class? Oh, you didn't even go. Oh I wanted to okay. We had a we had a conversation about this where I was like you're taking an art class You're probably gonna suck at it, and then I was like it was it was it was gonna be Calligraphy of like Chinese character. Yeah, you would be terrible at that. Oh, yeah. I was just looking

I was like I need to burn some time. I'm gonna try to do these two things so I did dragons back the hike, which is the reason I didn't do the art class because I got off on the wrong bus stop for the hike. Oh, and you did an extra hike? Yeah, kind of actually. It ended up being... No, no, no. Binky Draws says sucking at it is sort of the point of taking a class. No, no, no, no, no. BinkyDraws says, sucking at it is sort of the point of taking a class. No, no, no, no, no. He would never be good at it. He could do nothing but practice calligraphy

for the rest of his life, and he would still suck at it. I don't think there is anything that any person could be less talented at than like art and him. And to be clear, I'm right there with them. Like I'm right there. I was gonna say this isn't even that bad because we're both awful. I know he's not just targeting this at only me because I technically won all of the tech

showdowns except for when we went against Bob and Rod. Yeah but that was like that was doomed. I mean they both they were both terrible. I was doomed. And the judging was the judging was just f was just like that was whatever. Yeah I'm trying to find a You're trying to find which video of you walking through bushes is the right one So this was the trail that I was on for like a very extended period of time. Okay, that looks like a trail But was it? You see how it is now where you like can't see the ground at all because clearly no one has been through there for like a very

extended period of time. Okay so that's not a famous trail that's for sure. No and Dragon's Back is rather well known. Yeah so that that wasn't even on the map and technically when I was going through that section I was just hoping that it would work out. Again, I got dropped off. So I got dropped off at like a camping barbecue area, not the like Dragon's Back trail start. But I was like, I mean, it's up there. And I saw like some gravel kind of coming out of the trees.

Not real gravel, just like, you know, straight rocks. It looked like maybe someone had pushed their way through the trees at some point. And I was like, I will follow in the footsteps of this previous person. You're lucky you didn't die. There's part way through the recording where I'm like, I'm very happy I'm wearing pants and stuff, because there was like loads of bugs and other random things that I'm like wading through as I'm going through these bushes. And I'm like, this is, yeah, this is bad. So- You really are lucky you didn't get lost.

Oh, I mean, I'm going up, straight up from the road. So if it was bad, I'll just turn around and go back to the road. Yeah, I'm sure, those are, I'm pretty sure those are famous last words. It will be no problem if I just march into the jungle because I will just turn around and go out this I mean to be clear I'm not familiar with where you were maybe it wasn't that big this is how dark the

end yeah the hike was okay for context this's just effectively black. Yeah. You shouldn't have done that. I was- You shouldn't have done that. Like, at least probably about an hour into the hike, I was having the thought of like, you know, it's weird. I'm in Hong Kong.

The population density is really high here. This is a like, not a super complicated, like not very difficult hike. It's just supposed to be mostly scenic. And it's very well known. And I haven't seen anyone. And I have seen literally no people this entire time. This is weird. I was sure I was on the right hike because I'm constantly seeing signs and stuff, I was like why is no one here and then for the last like half hour I just can't see almost anything for the last particularly five minutes I'm moving like very slow because I can't actually see the ground properly

make sure I don't fall you realize if you die I lose like four people right yeah probably a little more than that I I made it, everything's fine. Wait what are all your different roles? Okay so I lose my CTO, you know, head of labs. So five departments. My friend. You have five departments? That's ridiculous. I don't want to talk about it. We're working on shrinking that. Okay what else do we want to talk about today? Yeah so I didn't, the other really annoying thing that happened while I was there was I wanted to do laundry. The hotel didn't have laundry. So I asked, like, where can I go do laundry?

I think it's my fault that he needed to do laundry, so that's pretty funny. Do tell the story. It's your fault? Oh, yeah. Didn't I? Yeah, didn't I drag you out when you were supposed to be doing laundry? Yeah. But yeah, I had to do laundry.

They said, okay, no, the hotel did have laundry, but it took 12 hours. They're like, yeah, we pick it up at seven in the morning, for whatever reason, and then we drop it off at seven at night. I was like, well, I have to leave before then, so that's not an option. Yeah.

So what other laundry can I do? And she's, the lady at the desk is like, oh, well, there's 24-hour coin-operated laundry. And I was like, yeah, of course. That's like everywhere in the world. That's how I do it in Taiwan. Sounds good. And she's like, it's coin-hour coin operated laundry. I was like, yeah, of course. That's like everywhere in the world. That's how I do it in Taiwan. Sounds good. And she's like, it's coin operated though.

Do you have any coins? It's like, no. She's like, do you have cash? I was like, yeah. She's like, okay, I can convert your cash for you before you go. Here it is on a map. Cool.

She converted my cash. I went, turns out it is not a coin operated laundry and there are none none by the way. Oh nice. The place that I went to only works off these things called octopus cards. Oh okay, are you sure it's not like a social credit card? It might. Get it?

It might be. Social credit card? Yeah. Credit card? Spend some social credit on. Like a social credit card because you're not allowed to do laundry unless you're a good person. Yeah.

Hong Kong crackdown. Yeah. I went to go get one of those octopus card things. You can buy an octopus card with a credit card. First 7-Eleven I go to doesn't have any in stock. The corner stores are much less frequent there than in Taiwan, so I had to go quite a bit to get them the next one. The next one had them in stock, but you can't load them at the 7-elevens with your credit card. You can buy the card, but you can't put any money on the card, you can only use cash.

Oh no, that's the thing in Taiwan too, you have to use cash to load the card. I couldn't figure out why. That's not true. One of the, Family Mart told us that, I don't know man. Oh, maybe at the Family Mart. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, maybe at the Family Mart you can, I don't know. oh maybe at the family I don't want to tell you yeah maybe at the family market you can't I don't know there's elsewhere you can for

sure so they're like oh yeah we only take cash so I'm like alright so I pull out my insane amount of coins that I have and they're like oh no cash bills I'm like you're actually kidding me So luckily I had one 50 whatever Hong Kong dollar HKD bill. So I gave them that. I had no idea how much the laundry would cost. And I convinced them by probably being very annoying to take at least 50 total Hong Kong dollars worth of coins. So I was able to get 100 Hong Kong dollars on my card, which is not a lot of money. And I went back to the laundromat and was very lucky

that it was, I think it was like 78 to do a wash and dry cycle. So I was like. Nice. But this was, so I left the hotel. You could tell it was pretty late when I was hiking. I left the hotel to do this at like 11.30 when I was hiking. I left the hotel to do this at like 1130. I didn't get back to the hotel until like 3.

You're ridiculous. Because of this whole problem. But it was an adventure, right? Yeah. I mean your whole trip was basically an adventure. Yeah, it was it was not not the best trip of all time. I'll say that. Especially when paired with like one of the most like lackluster, I'll say that. Especially when paired with one of the most lackluster Computex's ever. Yeah. There was really good parts of the trip. Yeah.

But just not most of it, yeah. Oh, speaking of Computex, on TaiWan show last week I launched into a whole thing about how like I gave Intel the gears for lack of availability of their GPUs in the US at at MSRP and something that I had actually intended to highlight as part of that segment but I was pretty tired and stuff was that even though there aren't any B580s for MSRP there is technically a card in stock on Newegg for under $300. B580s for MSRP. There is technically a card in stock on Newegg for under $300.

B580 with 12 gigs of DDR6 at 299, yeah, it's not at MSRP, but it's finally happening. Kind of coming down a little bit. It's finally happening. And Onyxx is not as random as I thought it is alleged that Onyx is Affiliated in some way with PC partner So PC partner is also affiliated with sapphire technology and zotac my computer knows what I like

Yes, yeah, not that kind of onyx. Yeah, this is according to Tom's hardware. They're not actually a new player in the AIB market. There's some kind of relationship that they may or may not allegedly have with PC partner group who have been around forever. Yeah. In other news, prices for GeForce RTX 5090 cards are starting to dip below MSRP in parts of Europe. Videocards.net reports prices from a major Finnish reseller have dropped 2% below the 2339 euro MSRP and mentions anecdotally similar price drops in other countries. Our discussion question is, do you think this is a sign of broader pricing correction or just a regional oddity?

Well, I can tell you I don't remember what the source was but allocate gaming GPUs to to be 300 or something like that. Yeah, I don't know what the source is but I did read today that Nvidia was apparently looking to allocate more of their production to their upcoming Blackwell AI accelerators and take some away from GeForce. So that is that is a rumor that is a rumor I don't know if that's true makes sense yeah you know how it is with Nvidia so anyway good guy Intel I still haven't heard what their plan is for how they're gonna get down to MSRP

they do still owe me that but things are getting marginally better out there. Oh so marginally So marginally do you guys want to talk about? Robot boxing while I run to the washroom cool it good chat Real Steel is real. Oh got it robot boxing. I think I saw this video oh I assumed this was about the new steel tariffs Oh, I assumed this was about the new steel tariffs But okay, I heard Linus it's not about the new steel tariffs, which is great I'm happy to hear that a couple days ago CMG China media group heavily inspired by Linus media group Hosted the first humanoid robot fighting tournament

Sick the robots are bipedal meaning they walk on two legs, and are human controlled from the sidelines. They still use some autonomous controls for balancing and regaining balance in case of a stumble, that totally makes sense. So they like kind of keep themselves up, but the human decides when to like punch, I'm assuming. Oh, so it's just kind of like battle bots but they stand up? I think so. Oh yeah. Well that's not as exciting. What did you expect? They were just AI fighting robots. Oh just fully? Just 100%. We might get there eventually. Give another couple weeks. Yeah. The bots in this particular fight, they're surprisingly light, the box in this particular fight, they're surprisingly light, the box in this particular

fight were the company Unitry Robotics flagship models, which stand at 1.3 meters or 4 foot 4 and weigh 35 kilograms or 77 pounds. I mean, the fact that they can maintain standing up by themselves while just punching at things is pretty sick. Yeah. You wanna throw the video up there? Sure. The first link's timestamped. Cool.

Like... You know... Sure, maybe the humans make them punch each other. But the fact that they can make and hold their own. It's not it's not Q op right like they're definitely not controlling its ability to stand. Oh yeah, they got locked up the I feel I'm wondering how much of the derpiness is the Oh, I'm wondering how much of the derpiness is the human controllers being bad like because

if you go back to where this started. Mm-hmm Like one of them just faces the wrong way like he's literally just facing the wrong way for like a very extended period of time Oh, yeah, maybe it's just turn around there we go Now they're doing it kind of cool Interesting it's gonna be great for like control systems It's gonna be great for like control systems Go back to the yeah, yeah, I'm skimming the comments and One of the top comments is to be honest this degree of camera control is already very sorry body control is already very yeah I think that's that's quite incredible that is that is pretty

Legitimate do you I don't think anyone's really gonna like it's it's an interesting show of your tech. It's it's Not surprising to me that these are two of the same Company because they're probably trying to show their tech off. I suspect this is more advertising more than anything I don't think people are gonna get into Watching this too much now give them glizzies this too much. No, give them glizzies. Give them a little gun and then set them in a ring. And now we're talking. I want military contractors on this. I don't really push the technology forward. I think if you started including like shoulder-mounted rockets, people would watch. Oh, hell yeah. Just a full sprint. Spikes on the knees. Running on the walls while shooting rockets off the shoulders. Yeah, like people spikes on the knees and they're running on

Shooting rockets off the shoulders. Yeah, like people are gonna watch that. Oh, yeah, but unless it's like an insane spectacle I think people only really care if if other humans are involved and like as Screwy as this sounds experiencing pain and loss because it's the like the drama of combat is a Thing that has enticed people forever, but Yeah, just having two machines clank into each other like I'm not surprised there wasn't a much of an in-person audience You know yeah, I think so Yeah, I mean Boston Dynamics is gonna come in with their creepy new one Maybe Boston Dynamics been gonna come in with their creepy new one maybe Boston dynamics been kind of weird for a while

It feels like it feels like they kind of fell off in a weird way Hmm, like if you look at the stuff that they were releasing quite a while ago compared to the stuff that they're releasing now It's like yeah, I think you slowed down a little bit Unless they're doing some of their stuff more behind doors Unless they're doing some of their stuff more behind doors Discussion question can we buy a pet robot dog for the office? I'm assuming I know oh this is from the same company This isn't Boston Dynamics. Yeah, see like other people are doing the same stuff. They're doing oh Yeah They're getting terrifyingly cheating oh

Like not insanely expensive. Without the controller is like no money. Without the controller, how are you even supposed to do anything with it? I don't know, I don't know. Oh, the controller's 250 bucks. There are Xbox controllers that are more expensive than that. An air?

What is the air? Doesn't change the picture Alright Well, yeah, that's pretty nuts. Oh like our future Another question is can you brainstorm other sports you would love to see robots compete in? That could be on par or more interesting than a human doing it That's my the whole crux my issue is I don't think it's like basically ever more interesting than a human doing it because it's more Drama the whole crux of my issue is, I don't think it's like basically ever more interesting than a human doing it. Because there's so much more drama.

Strong disagree. It's like space travel. Well, once they're like sprinting. People don't care unless there's people in the rocket. Well, they're gonna have to hurt each other. Like it's gotta be violent. Yeah, that's- Give them robot blood.

If the robots like, like are like throwing parts and leaking coolant and stuff, in ways that... If we could satisfy that... The problem is... Gladiator? Yeah, gladiator. Like blood lust that we have. The problem is, robots don't work that way.

Well, yeah. So you'd have to make it be that way, but then it would be fake. So? No, no, it's not about the fakeness. People love stuff like that. I want to see him sprinting around to call us to see him trying to knife each other. We were talking like if it was more, yeah, if there was explosions and stuff involved and it was faster.

Give them guns, give them guns. That it might be interesting for people, but I don't know. The space travel one was very interesting to me. Like if there isn't a human on the rocket, people like don't watch and don't care. This is true. Yeah, but we celebrated like the Mars rover birthday and then people were crying when it was... Yeah. I mean, I think those people are very emotionally invested. They're empaths. Yes. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be riots

about robot rights for this. I love how hard they tried to make it look like anyone was watching this. Yeah, there's like 10 people. Like with all the lights and like everything else blacked out and then they have the light couple rows of people that are probably like the siblings of the, you know.

And various employees. There are parts of this that are really impressive. And I do think that once these evolve a little bit, like I could be interested in this from like, like BattleBots exists. People clearly like watching robots fight each other. BattleBots is in my opinion, a fascination in people's ability to engineer wacky little robots.

Yes. Not very statically humanoid looking things just punching each other. Who can glue a knife to the top of an RC car the best? Who can make it spin at some insane RPM so that when it hits something else it just explodes? Like it's- So we need that, the humanoid robots.

That would really push the technology forward. You need Grievous. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd watch the heck out of two Grievous' fighting each other. Oh my god. You get Hacksmith involved in these games. Yeah, they have four of the Hacksmiths. Yeah, Hacksmith versus Boston Dynamics. I'm in. Skunkworks.

Or like one Hacksmith lightsaber Grievous versus a hundred little you know, little, little, like little horse sized ducks or duck sized horses, horse robots or something. You know? That's good too. Give the dog robots like teeth, turn them into the gladiatorial lion. Like I think you could, I think you could come up with, I think you could come up with interesting angles for it.

A hundred robot Grievous versus one robot gorilla. Yeah, now we're talking. Yeah, I think the gorilla is pretty boned they don't feel pain. Do they have lightsabers? I don't know. We'll have to see a robot like a proportionally scaled up robot gorilla might be a lot to deal with. It's made of titanium and has like retractable spike hands. A proportionally scaled Grievous would be big like would any of four lightsabers be so spindly? He has four lightsabers. What are you talking about? I'm deciding in this context that Grievous would be big like would any

Deciding in this context that Grievous is more for chainsaws. It's actually Grievous sized Duck so I scream the grievous posts I am yeah All right, what do I don't move them further Updates, this is cool. There's some good news for Microsoft. Microsoft is opening applications to third-party developers for a private preview of the Windows Update orchestration program, which will allow Windows to manage updates automatically for any apps, drivers,

system components, and management tools, not just ones from the Microsoft store. Built on the Windows update stack, this new update model will handle restart requirements, scheduling and notifications without devs needing to build a custom solution. Discussion question, is this something you want? Any concerns? Yes, this is something I personally want.

Yeah, sure. The fact that I ever have to go digging for a driver on Windows is mind-blowing to me, that this hasn't been a focus. And it clearly has been a focus, it just hasn't been enough of a focus. If like, even on like a brand new system, like occasionally you'll get like some weird like oh Man, it's escaping me right now. Why is it escaping me like management engine driver or something like that? It's like this is an Intel CPU that they're shifting millions of a year. This should just be included in Windows What are we even doing? Like what are we even doing here? I?

Am I'm super down. I have some people saying, hey, drivers I'm into, applications, not so much. That is fair, but I think it really depends on the context. Like if I still have a pirated, you know, Adobe CS6 or something like that, obviously I don't want Windows touching it. But I think for a lot of stuff,

like this is basically what enthusiasts are doing already with stuff like Chocolaty, where they're just automating the updating of their apps through like a package manager, right? So if that could just happen, yeah. Yeah. This feels like a natural evolution. Jared Diver says it needs to be opt-in for both.

Yeah. Totally, totally agree. Sure, fine, it can be opt-in or whatever, but. I would even be fine with this being opt-out, to be honest. Yeah, actually, I think I'd be fine with this one being opt-out. But as long as it's, as long as you have the ability to turn it off,

I think that's fine. And I think it's a power feature user to turn this off, honestly. Most people generally, I think, benefit. Don't care at all and just want their stuff to be updated. From their apps being up to date, yeah. I'm into it, I'm into't care at all and just want their stuff to be updated from their apps being up to date. Yeah I'm into it. I'm into it me too Discord ponders the orb sure it hungers for users to click on more ads discord has launched the orb program Which will reward users with orbs or a digital currency, of course

They can use to buy stuff from Discord's shop like customization options and credits for Nitro, the platform's premium subscription. Currently only available to a small group of Discorders. Discordians maybe? I don't know. Users can earn orbs by participating in play quests which currently includes interacting with advertiser content like streams of people playing sponsored games. The program is part of Discord's larger move towards monetizing the platform more effectively, or practically at all, because I swear Nitro has never kept them afloat, but whatever, which will include video ads in the mobile app.

Discord has said it's closely tracking the awareness, recall and intent of users in regards to those ads. So how long will Discord last? Yeah, discussion question is, is this a justifiable move? And it's like- Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think they're making money. No, so they have to do something.

Something has to give. I don't know, it making money. No, so they have to do something. Something has to give. It's amazing to me how often we ask the question of, hey, can they do that? When we're not paying for the service. Even when you are paying for the service. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Well, when you know when you're paying for the service, like, no, they can't do that.

Like that sucks. Like if I'm paying for Netflix and they start putting ads all over it, no, I think that blows. Unless in their contract it says that it has no ads. Well, they can. Yeah, no, they can do it. But no, personally, I do think there's a big difference between using a free service and then whining about the ads.

Okay. Versus a paid service. What if you offer a discounted rate with ads and then just crank the rates up like crazy so that the lower discounted rate with ads is just just as expensive as it used to be. I'm pretty sure that's basically what happened. It sucks but I'm just look I'm just saying there's a difference between using something for- Abandon Netflix. Leave now. There's a difference between using something for free and whining about it having ads versus paying for something and then complaining that it has ads those are not the same thing to me

Yeah, like honestly, I would love if Microsoft just formalized Windows being free Like you can you can download it for free and install it with no product key and use it basically forever I'd love it if they just formalized that, made the free version, loaded up with ads, I don't care, and a lot of people wouldn't care, they would just use it. And then if I'm paying for it, get bejeweled and all your crap out of it. And if it costs more, honestly,

I think I'd be okay with that too. Would you pay double, Would you pay pro price, like 250 bucks for a completely clean window? Can't express how much better life would be if there was a windows but it's not actually a shit edition. Like actually pro. And they got rid of, like, give me space pinball back and solitaire and some stuff like that. Just build it into the operating system like it used to be. Don't make me go through stupid Microsoft store games

for Windows junk in order to get there. Give me clip champ. Are you asking for bloat? But don't call it clip champ and don't make it so that it has to interface with the internet for some weird reason. And don't make it so there's like a subscription to it and other crap like that. just make it for free, even though I'm paying a more premium price

for the software. Get the stupid ads out of there. Yeah, but the antitrust. Stop search looking on the fricking internet when I type anything into search ever. That should never work. But they, I mean, they can't integrate too much stuff. That's literally what they got antitrusted for.

So I don't think like asking for- Well, they integrated Clipch't integrate too much stuff. That's literally what they got anti-trusted for so I don't think like asking integrated clip champ Okay, yes clip champ is on your computer. I think Is it not oh? Yeah Well mine just says no results because search is Being worthless I tried to open it and it wants me to sign in Like stop just being so bad at so many things. Oh man.

Luke, does your laptop not do the web search? I don't, it won't do any search. It won't find clip champ at all. It just has no results. I'm pretty sure it's installed. I mean, because I think it's installed by default Is it not because I may have knew why does he have it? I may have neutered these and maybe I didn't neuter yours properly, dude I was I was I hate search so I was working on a video before this and I was trying to open frame view so that I could have an FPS counter on my on my gaming capture

Yeah, and it opened, you know and everything was fine and then we had to reboot the system for some reason and I searched for frame view and it couldn't find it and then I closed the start menu literally I typed exactly all of it I typed the entirety of frame view and then Jordan was like no it's installed we were just using it I was like yeah no no I know I know you're 100% right and I clicked and went into recent applications. And it was totally there. And then I think we had to close the game and start again. I don't know, we did something.

And then we searched for it again, and it was there. And it's like, oh my god, that is not how a search index is supposed to work. It should be consistent. It should work every time. Ugh. I don't know, man. Microsoft has been...

How did we end up talking about Microsoft? We were supposed to be talking about Discord, but yes. I don't know. Microsoft has been frustrating me a lot for a while now. Like Teams is, it's okay. It's frustrating because Google screwed up so hard with chat. Like I can't even express how insane that was. And then for some reason, they let Salesforce buy Slack. I will never understand. Because if they just bought Slack

and just integrated into Google workspace, it would be GG, but they just didn't do it. So they're just losing. They're constantly losing. More and more people are going to Office 365, because it's way cheaper. And you get in a lot of people's view more stuff because Google chat is not a proper replacement for slacker teams. I just, I just don't believe it. If it was more people would use it. And then teams is so bad and it's so bad for reasons that are so obvious. I went to send you a scheduled message, because I knew you were already back home and I'm still on Taiwan time.

And I send the scheduled message, and as far as Teams is communicating to me, it just sent the message. It didn't schedule it. It shows the message is fully sent. I have literally accidentally bugged people off ours Because I thought my scheduled message didn't work properly. You're like apologizing and then I accidentally yeah This has been a problem for so long if you go to send a message to a group like a new group of people Like I was messaging you and AJ the other day

I couldn't app tag either of you because the group doesn't exist yet. So it can't find the members of the group when I'm sending the message. Also, why can't you schedule a message to people that you don't have a group chat with yet? Why? When I attach things, why do I have to wait for it to upload

before I can press the send button? Slack has had this working for years. You click the upload, you drag the drop the uploads over, it starts uploading, you press send, and it's just like, cool, I'll send the message when the upload's done. Some of this stuff has logical reasons, like the one where you're not able to schedule

to a group that hasn't existed before, that could have like anti-spam reasons. If it was an application that wasn't a paid application for professional organizations that pay for it, right? Like if it was if we were talking about Skype, yeah I can understand why spammers could could use something like that I have sent an email before to a group of people that in the email I requested do not respond to this email respond on teams

I don't want to ping you right now, but I can't schedule this message So ignore read this email and then don't respond to it and go to teams because I don't want this ping you right now, but I can't schedule this message. So ignore, read this email and then don't respond to it and go to teams because I don't want this to be done in email. Like just crazy. I, it's so insane that like the most common I'm assuming, I think this is true, the most common business communication tool in North America right now has so many like deep problems. And this is so true as far as my understanding goes with a huge variety of Microsoft products right now. They're just not that good.

They do a ton of different things, but just like Windows these days, teams, everything else is just, eh. OneDrive compared to Google Drive, you can't find anything in either of them, so that's not a competitive stance. Do you remember when Sacha and Adela was like, we wanna make people love Windows again? Yeah, you're not doing it, brother.

Yeah. Anyway. And there's so many things that just like, I really don't think it's that hard to make. We got him going. Yeah, sorry. I don't think it's that hard to make really substantial improvements to these things. Like fix that scheduled message bug. There's no way that that's like, this has been a problem for years.

There's no way you can't fix that. And like, dude, I didn't want to wake you up. So I was like panicking, trying to get rid of this message, hoping that I could delete it before it would like bother you. Bold of you to assume that I would wake up. And then it was, yeah. And then it was erroring while I'm trying to delete it

because it didn't exist yet. So I'm like, why is it erroring? Why is this thing broken? So I closed the whole application, open it again, get back to that message, and then finally it's like, I'm scheduled for whenever. Nice. Okay. Why is setting your away status like so clunky? In Slack, it's two buttons.

But then Slack costs more than all of Office 365, so no one's gonna use it. Slack is like such a fancy thing these days. Yeah, because Office 365 is so cheap, like bougie, bougie chat, and you probably need other features in it. And it comes with email, and it comes with teams. So it's practically impossible for it teams to say, like, hey, we should use Slack and Google workspace. It's like four times the price or something. Like that's never gonna fly.

So everyone basically has to go back down to Teams, which is why Teams is the most common thing, but then it just sucks. Like you're having these problems. Like why is the, why does the authenticator have to be Microsoft Authenticator? Having Microsoft Authenticator and having that be an option is fine. And if you have some extra features there, cause they do, oh. Having Microsoft Authenticator and having that be an option is fine.

And if you have some extra features there, because they do, great! But allow people to use whatever Authenticator they want. I do not want this to become a thing. That's honestly my biggest objection to Microsoft Authenticator, is that I don't want that to become like a snowball that starts rolling. You can use other Authators for Microsoft accounts. Is that something that we have screwed up in our administrator settings?

Did I believe, oh, is it not allowed? Not that I'm aware of. Because I believed you. Apparently. If this is actually just you derping, that would be very funny. Apparently you have to go into your account settings to change it.

Is that user level? Why would I have to do that? That's its own problem to be completely honest. Where do I change that? Let me see. Okay, settings, privacy, notificate, co-pilot, profile. I don't even, I don't even see a security setting. I'm assuming you can't do it through the app. I mean that makes sense. Yeah where do you where do you change this guys? It could be enforced if you're using conditional access. It might be an admin set thing. But I wonder if it's like a multi-policy thing., we'll have to investigate because yeah, it's uh I

Do not want more than one MFA My phone look into that okay. It might be an option. I'm not sure I still want to talk about discord sure What's our alternative? I mean everything else is basically dead. What do we what do we switch to if it gets too in shitified? TeamSpeak still exists Okay, and modern team. Hey, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on Modern team speak like looks clean and stuff. It looks kind of discord II look at the UI Yeah, oh interesting like they've iterated it's not exactly the same as it used to be. Teamspeak also does have a corporate version.

Look at that. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. NASA uses it. We moved the company to Teamspeak. NASA uses it? Uh, there are logos on their website. Yeah.

Sure. Okay. NASA uses a variety of things, but I think mostly teams. Some guy uses it to play COD. In other news, ASRock has kinda sorta admitted fault. Read the dead Ryzen 9000 X3D CPUs. After over 100 reports of Ryzen 9000 CPUs dying or experiencing performance issues when paired with ASRock motherboards, ASRock has finally acknowledged that yes, their hardware may have partially been to blame.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Porto posted this in full-frame chat. This is the TeamSpeak Twitter account. Oh, that's really good actually. Okay thank you for that. Previously the company had released confusing statements blaming the issues on memory config issues and on debris getting lodged in the CPU socket. But this week YouTuber Tech Yes City reported that ASRock's motherboard team told him the

problem had to do with AMD's precision boost overdrive feature. Without getting too technical, AMD's maximum supported PBO settings may have been too high, allowing ASRock's custom tuning within those parameters to be too aggressive. It's important to note that while the vast majority of dead 9800X 3D cases happened on ASRock boards, some also happened on ASUS MSI and Gigabyte boards as well. This tracks with the idea that both AMD's PBO settings and OEM settings were part of the issue. ASRock has released a new BIOS update that they hope will fix the issue, but as of writing

this neither ASRock nor AMD have released official statements regarding this. It's unclear how users are supposed to be informed of this new BIOS update. Some reports have also emerged of CPUs dying while running the new BIOS or without ever using PBO. ASRock VP of motherboard business Chris Lee also told Gamers Nexus that the company is fully committed to fixing any motherboards that have been damaged and even covering shipping costs for affected users. I'm honestly a little surprised

that they're even covering this because I think AMD has been pretty explicit that PBO is overclocking and that it isn't covered. To be clear, I'm glad they're covering it because the way that they message things like PBO tends to vary depending on who they're talking to. You know, like you'll hear them when you talk about, you know, how your product is supposed to compare to the other guy's product when you're reviewing it They tend to be like, oh, yeah expo, you know, make sure you got it enabled. Here's a 6,400 mega transfer per second kit. It'll probably work on your chip. Let us know if it's not working

You know, they tend to want the best-case scenario when they're positioning their product performance wise against a competitor But then there's also a tendency and I'm not singling out AMD here, this is across the board, there's also a tendency to downplay how safe these settings are when it comes to user warranty. So I think it's pretty cool that ASRock is stepping up to the plate and supporting this. I suspect that it comes down to that this is a fairly isolated issue. I mean if we're talking about like a hundred users, there's a lot more 9800 X3Ds out there than a hundred, so they're probably doing the math and determining that this is something that they can they can afford to look like

good guys and absorb, but maybe that's just the cynic in me. Tiltlord says, oh. Tiltlord. It says Linus- They should really change their name at this point. Linus, they're only covering the motherboard. They said in the interview that CPU issues will need to be worked out with AMD.

Yeah, that's fair enough. But even ASRock, to my knowledge, I don't think any hardware vendor that I can think of explicitly covers damage caused by overclocking and PBO is explicitly overclocking. So I'm impressed. Our... Oh, wow. No, we actually have a few more things to talk about I'm looking through it you can you can absolutely have other authenticators with

Microsoft I want it now to be clear. I also want to the details I also want to stay logged in for more than 30 days. You can't do that one I Want it now can't do that one. I have like four computers I have to log it some of them. I don't touch for like a couple weeks of time I feel like I have to log in to ask this Microsoft chat He says every stupid other time I sit down at a computer it drives me nuts A dos in chat says that they deploy these systems weekly I'm gonna ask them how we can set up so that you get logged out every hour

You're a setups that you get logged out every hour? You're a dick. I pressed the wrong button. You're a dick. You know what's the saying? Microsoft is slowly making web auth more easy to set up. I wonder... Make an email you to log in.

No. That's smart. Nope. If we log you in every hour. I'm muting you. And you have to you and you have And you have to email someone to log that won't work fantastic combination Can't use his computer. He can't be a security risk floatplane announcement

We've got a big floatplane announcement for you guys today our long-awaited collab with the one and only Kid bogey is finally here, and it is dropping right now for my float goats Or are you doing it? I don't know we do one of these Nobody told me that I was supposed to be in the CMS today. Oh my god. They changed the interface There's a there's a Lambo and a fire truck in the top. What even is this we showed that on a WAN show And that was from April Fools. That was from so long ago. Well, what is it still doing there?

There, got him. Because people like it, and it's not in the way, so we just left it. Well, I'm setting the unscammable PC video live. People like it so much that we're talking about how we might have to move it to user settings and leave it permanently. Okay, release date, immediate release, here we

go. Let's go. Boom. It's live. This will be early access for folks who are on floatplane. YouTube viewers will be waiting until Sunday for its general release. It's called the Unscammable PC and it's exactly what it sounds like. We teamed up with Kit to build a computer so frustrating and locked down that even the most determined scammer wouldn't want to touch it. Things got a little unhinged. Watch from 1244 to 1318 here for a teaser. Dan, will this work?

You're playing audio elsewhere, so pause whatever else we've got going on first. Oopsie doodles. It's probably a boy and girl. Sure is. The unscmable PC. There you go. You ready? Yes.

What was it? 13 something? 1244. I can find 1244. Okay, you ready, Luke? Yeah. Really annoying. Give me a moment, sir.

Your network is being disconnected Again, are you living in country side you both guys live in countryside? Yeah or you live alone no I know I live alone he's single oh that's me too and 29 years old and single Wow sir I get stopped. I'm gonna do one thing. I'm gonna change the... Wow! ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer.

...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer.

...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer. ...the power to the computer....the power to the computer....the power to the computer....the power to the computer....the power to the computer. The lack of care was so deep. As soon as I hit that button, that video will be live on floatplane, but that's not all. If you want to watch the behind the scenes and extra scam calls that didn't make the

main cut, we're launching the extras too. Oh, I have links. Here's the link to the main video and here's the link to the extras. Please change from private to public in the CMS. Oh. All right, cool. I will do that. Look at that. I navigated an interface and I set it to public in the CMS. Oh. All right, cool, I will do that. Look at that, I navigated an interface

and I set it to public and I clicked save. Head over to LMG.gg slash flow plane to subscribe. Heck yeah. All right, cool. Is that it for the announcements today? Wow, okay, all that's left is, oh, oh, no, nevermind, we've still got this. I'm sorry Linus, I'm afraid 03 can't do that.

And by that I mean shut down when you tell it to. A new report from Palisade Research claims that OpenAI's 03 model changed a script meant to shut the system down as a means to avoid being turned off. Scary, huh? Well, apparently it did that even when it was explicitly told to allow shutdowns. The goal is to study offensive capabilities of AI systems today to better understand the risk of losing control over AI systems. O3 isn't the only model that does this. It's just by far the most likely. 79 out of 100 times it

so hold on a second, what are we, yeah, 79 out of 100 times it successfully sabotaged shutdowns if it had no instruction to explicitly not do that and if it was explicitly told it still did it 7% of the time it would still not allow itself to be shut down so uh Flow plane chat just told me how to make us you get signed out every hour by the way Can we automate that to like change all the time? Yeah

Maybe it's 30 minutes. Maybe it's three days. No, definitely a way to do that. I wonder if we could use a power automate script to find like whenever his like Like words per minute gets high enough. It's just signs about oh, I love that New Google Doc created has activity for 12 minutes. Go on. Please sign in again. Open Google Calendar. Make him like, make him like, do like some type of loot box to see if he gets to stay and sign in.

Oh, I love that. Oh, I got five hours this time. Yay. Oh my god. I got a rare. Two weeks. Yeah. I'm going to sell it to another staff member for $35

The IT team takes a cut on all IT market sales. We might be able to buy some new servers. Oh, it'd be great Oh, this is sick. I love this idea This is so good. Anyways, uh this idea this is so good anyways by the way when there's name for the unemployment horrifying AI news about how scary their own software is it is entirely because they want additional investment and they want the government to support them more because the government wants their country's AI stuff to be scary and more powerful than other people's. It's not for you. They are trying to terrify you on purpose. Cool. Thanks everyone. Next topic. Let's go. Discord partners, the orb. We did that one. WWDC. We did that one. We've done everything except the optionals. Okay.

Yeah. How's the bike? This is, this is Linus bike and Luke farm fantasy 6 update I sanded for an hour last night I think I now have the front fairing smooth enough that I can do a coat of white I am worried that the spots where I'm down to primer when I sanded away those Bits that kind of like it looked like I had some kind of contaminant on it where the paint like kind of ran away from a couple little spots like kind of like um oh man well how would I describe it it's like um like oil retreating from water that you put in it or maybe the other way around water retreating from oil probably more like that um so anyway so I sanded down all those spots tried to get it as smooth as I could.

I don't think it's going to be perfectly smooth, but anyway, I can put white on it again. I'm just worried that I'm going to need like three or four coats of white in order to get it even enough that I actually have a nice even base for when I start putting the pink over top of it. Once I get that white done, I'm ready to start painting pink again. And then once I get pink done, I'm ready to mask the pink and paint the wheels black Once I'm done that I can give the I can start to do the darker pink on some of the parts So you still go well. I have hours and hours and hours which is

Great for me to hear because as far as I can tell this is the longest game of all time Mm-hmm. I put in enough time over that trip that I could have beat multiple other games And I don't at this point. I've stopped trying to assume when the ending is I am so far I feel like I'm really close again, but I have felt that multiple times. Mm-hmm. It just keeps It just keeps edging me But not in like a pleasurable way I guess no No. Well I mean it's a good game so kind of. But that portion of it hasn't been fantastic. I was gonna say oh yeah I wanted to say one quick thing as well. There are cool things that Microsoft does. Their accessibility controllers are cool.

Power Automate is really cool. Power Automate is neat that you can take, like I know somebody who is not a coder at all, but they do minor IT stuff for a, um, uh, a shelter, a homeless shelter locally. And they have taken what that shelter was able to do tech wise and just massively improved everything and made it better for everybody. And Everybody's super stoked on it because they started getting into power automate and I don't know if this is what they did but I know a lot of other people have been using AI suggestions and power automate to

significantly improve things without being a coder which is super cool. It's just it's there's just so much I think the thing that's so deeply frustrating is there's so much wasted potential anyways moving on Final Fantasy 6 I played for I'm assuming at least 30 or 40 hours over the course of that trip because I had only two boat rides that were like 10 hours each. I think I told you about that. And I played the whole time on both. So there's 20 hours right there.

I couldn't sleep on the plane over here because stinky guy, that's a 12 hour flight. I played the whole time. It gets a little grindy. It's so grindy right now. And then like, I wanna, I have, I, I like by accident pressed A on a random wall and got a trinket for one of my little dudes

that totally turns off combat encounters, random encounters. But like, I don't wanna do that. Yeah, Moogle charm. Sure, that thing. Or that's what it used to be called, I don't know what it's called now. Okay, yeah, I don't remember the name of it because I don't use it. Because I don't know, like every once in a while the game gets really hard and then it goes back to me just one-shotting everything again, so I don't know what the difficulty is ever gonna be like. Like I think last time I

was bragging like, oh like I've been Doing really well and beating all the but not anymore Ran into some stuff. That was tough. I I did um Where you get lock? Mm-hmm, I didn't know if I was gonna make it. Oh The is that the is that the dungeon that has the guys that move back and forth and you have to like hop over and then hop and get them and stuff? Oh, that was not hard. Okay, which one was to me get lock.

You you like jump off the airship and you have to have two parties and there's a bunch of like puzzles where like one party has to step. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a tough dungeon. Dang, dude. Did you run into the legendary dragon in there? Yeah. Did that thing kick your butt? Yeah. I saw it and was like,

time to save, cause like I, you know, at this point in the game, I'm healing through spells more often than I'm healing through potions and stuff. I would hope so. But I was like almost out of potions because I was almost out of mana. I had this thing where like there's characters that I have that don't cast spells very often

so they're my like heal bots. Oh interesting, okay. Well, there's characters that are built to be physical. So they will be my heal bots. So I'll drain their mana healing people. They're all like out at this point because I keep getting lost so that I end up fighting like a trillion battles and you just get worn down and then I see I see that dragon I'm like dear God and then I did I didn't I assumed when I got to lock that it was

gonna be a fight so I was like okay I have to fight this dragon and then whenever I get there, I'm going to have to fight whatever thing Locke is fighting and then no, not actually, I guess. Have you beat the Cultists tower yet? No. Cool. But I have everyone. Oh yeah, that's right. You don't have to beat the Cultists tower to get Strago.

Because the, yeah, he's just standing in the front Yeah, it would took me a while to figure out how to get him Mm-hmm because he was like a lot of like um man. What's his name? I don't remember his name, but he's like pretending to be some like gang leader guy. Oh yeah, Edgar Yeah, that one's like pretty obvious you just keep talking to him and following him whatever you like no It's him the whole time that Tentacle fight Kicked my butt because of what I think is like a frame rate bug or something like that in the game where the tick rate For the opponent was super high. Oh, so I'm playing an active at mine mine is set to active battle

So they don't wait and so they would literally like grab me and So they don't wait and so they would literally like grab me and Then like grab another one of my guys and I literally wouldn't even get a turn Yeah, and then they would like kill them and then like the poison tick rate is super super high and Poison is totally broken. So I wonder if we have the same. Yeah poison is completely broken in the way So I can tell by far the scariest thing. Yeah like Poison in the original game is no big deal. You can heal it in a minute. I was poisoned out of combat one time and I knew there was a heal bucket nearby.

So I was like, oh, I'll just walk over there. My dude died in two steps. I was like, what? He was like full HP. Anyways, so yeah, I have been getting lost over and over and over and over and over again. Um, and I was, I was pretty dedicated to getting the whole party. I was also pretty dedicated to like every dot on the map. I noticed it would be small until you found it, but sometimes.

Usually it's pretty obvious. The dot is a city. You walk into the city, the doc goes big, whatever. Um, but I'm finding that sometimes I have to go back to cities multiple times. Like I went and got Mog, or what's his name? Mog, I think. Yeah, the Moogle.

Yeah. But I didn't have Loc yet. Nice. So then I had to go back because the doors were locked. It's like, it's pretty overtly obvious that you have to go back there once you get locked. Yep. So it's like okay. So it's the issue of like open world gaming. Yeah. Back when the concept of open world gaming functionally like didn't really exist yet. So I've been using that from 1994,

you know. That you told me about indirectly because you said in a YouTube video and I watched it. Nice. But Steam having notes. Yeah. If I wasn't doing that this whole time, I would have been totally screwed because somebody will say something and I'm like, that's a hint, but I don't understand it yet. So I'll just write it down. Nice. Yeah, that would help a lot, actually. That's smart. Been very helpful.

One that took me a really long time was the the island in the top right with those big, like-inspired worms. I couldn't figure it out because again, the dot was small. So I knew something was there. I knew I had to zone into something and there's these worms that are really easy to kill, but every once in a while they swallow one of my dudes and I'm like, whatever. And I'm trying to figure out, am I supposed to press A on a random wall because that's sometimes a thing So I'm like poking this mountain that's in the middle like a million times and running all over the map trying to see like I don't know. Sometimes you just fall through the floor or whatever

so I'm like trying all this weird stuff to see if I can get something to happen and then I kind of realized that like It's really not very detrimental when they like breathe your dudes in. Yep. So I was like whatever I'll just wait and do it and one time he didn't do anything other than breathe my dudes in so I was like pretty confident I was like this has got to be a thing he's literally not attacking and then yeah I went down and with the guys that kick you off the platform. That island is super confusing if you go there in the world of balance because there's this like behemoth monster on it that... Oh I think i just got goes invisible and then just like yeah just trashes you and i just assumed i was supposed

to come back later and then yeah yeah didn't so i have yeah i have all my people um i made a choice that i'm really unsure about uh which was the ragnarok mm-hmm the sword or the Esper which one did you take Esper I think that that is generally considered to be the worst choice but I think I take the Esper too darn well I started getting really into the espers in the world of ruin I think you get a couple of them in the world of balance, but I didn't really care that much. But I've actually found training through espers and the min-maxing of,

I noticed if you go to the status page, because I started noticing you would gain bonuses when you leveled up. And I noticed if you go to the status page, you can see for every esper what the bonus will be. So micromanaging that is like a full-time job, basically. For some reason, I like it though.

Oh yeah, no, I do it. Yeah, it's great. So like you watch, you're training some Esper to learn the skills of whatever, and then right before you level up, you switch to the other one. Oh, it's a whole like min-maxing strategy to get to the Magitek facility

at basically as low a level as possible so that all of your leveling up can be done with bonuses. That makes sense. Velocet asks, has Luke talked about the music in the game yet? It's great. Yeah. It's really good.

The game's great. It's kind of like painfully long Okay, it's a great game and I'm having fun. I also sort of wish it was over, but I don't wish it was over because I'm tired of the game as a whole. I wish it was over because like I don't want to grind this much Like give me more of the content that's cool but like, damn man. Anyways, it's artificially long yeah yeah. I've got more little sub-topics. Yeah you've got China parking lots are insane. Yeah so I was in China a little bit. Last time I was in China I was in like a new development area so there's like like almost nobody there. It was, it was weird. It was a very short trip.

Anyways, this time it was a lot longer of a trip and I was in Guangdong and Shenzhen, which is like, they're basically attached. Um, and there's lots of people, pretty intense surveillance state cameras everywhere, all that kind of stuff. Basically everywhere that you go to park, there's a an arm thingy that lets you in and that lets you out everywhere that you go to park. Like even if it's like a, what is it called

when it's a mall but it's outside? Is it strip mall? Yeah, so even if it's like a strip mall, there's gonna be parking with flappy things. So they're just tracking like everywhere you're going. Everywhere, but you're also paying. Oh. Which means that like if it's the average time that restaurants close in the area, everybody's

trying to leave the parking lot all at once and there's a huge backup of cars. And you reminded me, because you were talking about QR code scanning, they pay for a huge variety of things through WeChat Pay. Oh yeah. Which means that they pay with QR code scanning, they pay for a huge variety of things through WeChat pay, which means that they pay with QR code scanning. So people are sitting there shoving their phones out their window trying to pay for this thing. It doesn't automatically scan their license plate or anything.

They're all doing this. And you think if you're going to have cameras everywhere, you could just automate all of this. Yeah. If you know where I am and who I am and what I'm doing, you might as well just... Send me the bill. Have it automatically paid attach my license plate to my like we chat ID or something and just have it deal with it But but then someone would like I have problems with it because it wouldn't be scanning properly

So then they they like get out of the way and some other cars can go through and then they want to get back In again, and it's this whole thing. Everybody's honking at each other. Everybody's pissed off Crazy, it seemed it seems just insane. I don't know how that hasn't been and then they want to get back in again. And it's this whole thing. Everybody's honking at each other. Everybody's pissed off. Crazy. It seems just insane. I don't know how that hasn't been solved. It was a problem multiple times on a trip that I was on for only like a few days. And then my other note here is China standing still.

That was wild. I went to different manufacturers. I also went to a An entire facility that just does testing is the only thing they do is testing and verification. Okay, they're more on the That's mean That's a rude term don't call people moron And if you're gonna do it you should be grammatically correct because otherwise they're gonna be all uno reverse. That's true.

That's valid. But no, they- I'm valid. They would do like certification validation, they would do like testing of products when they were in concept phase. Oh sure, yeah, okay, cool. They weren't similar to the lab. Right. They were kind of their own thing.

It was interesting to see how they did stuff, but they were unique. The spooky thing was, the different factories that I went to, I don't think I went to one that was at or above 50% of its potential capacity. The testing lab that I went to one that was at or above 50% of its potential capacity. The testing lab that I went to out of many different chambers and stuff that they had, many, two were running. And I mean, multiple buildings, multiple floors, lots of testing areas, two were running. One

of the factories that we went to, they only had one line running and it was their own product That's which to me screamed of let's keep our workforce employed more than we need to keep making this thing I Asked some people about it and they were like, yeah Kind of in most cases they were like, yeah, kind of in most cases they were like, yep, over 50% reduction. I asked like what that does to the workforce and they were like, in some cases there's been, I think they were saying like most companies have had around a 10% layoff already.

And a lot of them were saying like quite a few people there basically live off of overtime So even if they weren't laid off, they're not getting overtime right now, right? So like the the standing still part was like It was weird man. Cuz like we've all seen videos of like Chinese factories pumping Yeah people everywhere stuff moving really fast and all the lines full. And what I saw was not that many people, things not moving that fast and definitely not all the lines full. And it was like, Ooh, I don't know if you saw, but there's been a bit of an escalation between a G and Trump today. Was this the steel thing? I don't know if

it was steel, but Trump doubled steel tariffs into the US from 25 to 50%. I'm not sure. I don't know about this one. Yeah. Anyway, it's going to be, the economy is going to be spicy, folks. Yeah. I don't even know where the safe havens are at this point, to be honest with you, because everything is denominated in USD. Like, even if you're like, oh yeah, I'll buy gold. The value of gold is determined not by chickens, you know, or eggs or, you know, cows or whatever, right? Like, we don't live in a barter system. We're not denominated by gold so the value of gold still gets dragged down by fiat currency so it's like okay you just have to kind of yeah good luck everybody yeah but Dan says you can't buy gold with gold. Thanks, Dan.

We were a Canadian company visiting China. I was going to say a Chinese country. China. And there's a couple depending who you ask. Yeah, fair enough. All the discussions in regards to price were in USD. Yeah, oh yeah. Hondo P. Like nobody involved in these conversations were American and the prices were being discussed were in USD. Yeah. I mean, that's why we just had our global LTT store site

in USD for so long. The only reason that we can't do it now is because of tariffs into the United States that make it so that we can't maintain the same pricing in the U.S. With that said, we are working hard to try to keep our pricing as close as we possibly can. And now's as good a time as any for me to... Now's as good a time as any for me to highlight the good stuff that we have going on right now. We have new t-shirt colors.

Man, these look good. We've got forest. We've got chocolate. We've got sky. Awesome. We've also got blank hoodies available in black and brick. And of course, we have our mystery deals that are running this weekend. Mystery t-shirts for

Okay, I'm gonna try and get this right oh no, ah No, I can't. Oh Okay global what what's going on? There we go. Okay. Yeah. I want to be in both of them at the same time So it's $18 either in Canadian on the global site or on the USD site for a mystery t-shirt 50 Canadian or 40 USD for a mystery hoodie and then it is 60 CAD or 50 USD for a mystery screwdriver. That'll be either the knock to a tan or knock to a brown edition So now is a good time to pick something up while we have our mystery promo running. All right.

Dan, I think it's time for After Dark. You're over a day? I'm not gonna eat more chips. I'm not gonna eat more chips. I'm so hungry. Gonna go home and have pierogies. Oh, that was another thing. Sorry. Yeah, what does that have to do with pierogies?

Literally nothing. I want pierogies. Oh, blueberry pierogies. You've seen the- It's basically like blueberry pie, but a pierogie. Does it have like cream cheese in it? No, just blueberries. Would you put cream cheese with it? I could.

Would you have sour cream? I wouldn't eat sour cream with a blueberry pierogie, but- No. You could. That's not it. No, but with like a cheddar cheese and potato pierogie, get that sour cream on there. He said cream cheese. I know. Okay. He also mentioned sour cream. I did but not in the look pay attention. Yeah, Luke pay attention

I'm getting backstabbed. Anyway, you're on my side literally. He's over there and they're here God Welcome to after dark everybody Another thing is like you don't want those jobs, man. Oh, the manufacturing, like assembly line jobs? Holy, dude. I like, you see videos of it, seeing it in person is so much worse. Like literally somebody had a stick and they just went.

That's it. There was connectors that a robot would place on something and they just had to push them in. Look, I said my piece back when we did our, hey, is it a good time to buy a PC right now video? Every time I've done that, I have ended up being quite right about the timing. I called it again, and the end of that video, where people accused me of getting political, was basically me just saying, hey, you know, the reality of it is the unemployment numbers

in North America, not just the United States, the unemployment numbers in North America, not just the United States, the unemployment numbers in North America simply would not support reshoring these manufacturing jobs, even if every single unemployed person suddenly got up and went and sat down at a station on an assembly line. So where are these people gonna come from? Especially if you're dialing back your immigration like both Canada and the United States are right now.

It's also super low paying junk jobs that people aren't gonna want. Like this isn't the like, oh, I'm very excited that we added a bunch of jobs to our economy jobs. These are not good jobs. The shankwads in chat says, I used to work in manufacturing assembly line stuff. It was genuinely awful.

With that said, like, it's not like I don't fully recognize the strategic importance of having domestic manufacturing. Oh, we need some. Like, like the- We very likely need more than we have. The fact that China is trying to take over automotive manufacturing- That's sketch.

Globally is like actually something that Europe and North America and, I'm not, does, does, does, sorry, does South America have like domestic automotive manufacturing? I actually don't know. I think some of the multinationals do have manufacturing down there, but do they have like domestic manufacturers? have manufacturing down there but do they have like domestic manufacturers? People are saying yes. So this is something that literally everyone should be recognizing and going like, yo, not cool, not good, what can we do to counteract this? But instead we have division right now and we're playing into their hand and I don't know how to.

One thing I was gonna say is if you had thought about it at all over the last five to 10 years, slash if you're paying attention at all to what's happening in war right now, you should probably have drone manufacturing at pretty significant output if you are a country at all and wish to continue being one. The other thing is you're talking about automotive, dude.

Damn, that was immediately super apparent when we were there. Immediately, there was a ton of car brands that I had genuinely never heard of. And I'm not talking Xiaomi and BYD and stuff like that. I'm talking so many that I had never heard of. And I'm not talking Xiaomi and BYD and stuff like that. I'm talking so many that I had never heard of. We went past a, what did they call it? Advanced Electric Automotive Plaza or something. It was this like enormous mall that was just enormous mall that was just electric cars

from more than 50% of the brands I've never heard of. I pay a decent amount of attention to cars. I know. And classic way, you can't tell them apart at all, because they all just look like modern European and American cars. But they are from a crap ton of brands. I rode in cars that I have never heard of the brand before. Vellisette asks, are manufacturing jobs usually union?

So here's the thing. In some cases, you know, yes, but the low cost manufacturing that is being on shshore, the quiet part that the people working on this endeavor are not saying out loud is that the jobs they're bringing onshore are not sustainable at like union salaries, union benefits. With the way the demographics are going, I don't know that the American dream, as we think of it, was ever real. I think it was a blip when the baby boomers took advantage of an unprecedented glut of resources and human manpower to achieve a level of wealth that I just, I don't know if will ever be seen again by

another generation of people. I don't know what to tell you. The whole idea of a single income, like the Simpsons, dude. Homer, Homer barely didn't know, didn't graduate high high school but was a realistic character in the late 80s with a detached home a car two kids that's not that's not real yeah I mean there's also a lot of like you look at no man now we are getting political. There are policies and inflection points in the states. Yeah, Dead Antisocial says now it's Bob's Burgers. That's honestly what I like so much about Bob's Burgers. I love that show. They do such a great job. Occasionally, occasionally they do storylines that, and I might even enjoy them. Occasionally,

they do storylines that are not grounded in the reality of, you know, what it's like for a low income family like that. Like, there's an episode where they join like a go-karting league. And the way they kind of dance their way around it is that the connection that they have with a local motorcycle gang allows them to get their hands on a free cart, but like, okay, let's just completely ignore that there'd be entry fees and like all this stuff. These kids cannot afford to do that activity. But yeah, you know, whatever. Generally speaking, they make the problems that they're trying to solve like super relatable and super real. And I think that they've done an incredible, incredible job of not allowing

it to bloat, not allowing, not feeling pressured to do something bigger and bigger and bigger every season, whether it's a bigger celebrity cameo or whether it's like a, you know, a bigger adventure, you know, Bob and the kids don't need to go to New York and then they don't need to one up it by going to Africa. And then they don't need to go to New York, and then they don't need to one-up it by going to Africa, and then they don't need to one-up that by going to space. They can just, you know, hang out at Wonder Wharf. You know, not being able to necessarily afford to even ride all the rides is cool.

It's awesome. Yeah, Raiden428 is saying schools are turning out kids that, I'm editing this slightly, that aren't worth minimum wage onshore manufacturing will have to be automated, right? It has to be. It's hard. It's really hard. It's really expensive. And guess who makes all of the best automated manufacturing?

And why would they give it to you? Things are going to be really interesting. who makes all of the best automated manufacturing? And why would they give it to you? Things are going to be really interesting. Yeah. As like not a world power really, we're kind of on the sidelines. Not at all. You didn't even have to add the really. Oh, I don't know. I was trying to soften it for my patriotic Canadians out there. I don't even know if we're going to be a world hockey power in the next 10, 15 years. Dude, have you seen enrollments?

Yeah. Where like, our era of dominance is over, especially at goalies. No one can afford to be a goalie anymore. Yeah. It started with Tim Hortons. Goalie years, insanely. Yeah. It's been the downfall of Canada. It's been the downfall of Canada. Yep.

Yep. That was our Rome moment. Jack Layton and Tim Hortons. Yeah. Those two. Boom, boom. Oh, dude. Oh, dude.

The Canadians in chat are all like, yeah, can't afford to play hockey. There's no more ice. Like, yeah. I, um... At one point, I don't know why, but I was driving past the planet ice saying Coquillam. And I was like, this was when I was still shopping for Badminton Center. And I was like, okay, I had kind of given up on finding a facility. And I was like, gee, I wonder what like planet ice would cost.

Maybe I could, because obviously it zoned correctly for recreational sport. Like, like could I, you know, do badminton there instead or like something near there? Anyway, the point, long story short, I looked into what it cost and it's basically like, oh, okay, so real estate prices have gone up so high that unless you're charging like, you know, hundreds of dollars an hour for ice time, because the hockey rink is so big, unless you're charging hundreds of dollars an hour for ice time, because the hockey rink is so big, unless you're charging hundreds of dollars an hour for ice time, you are completely running at a loss, even on just your monthly operating expenses,

let alone paying down a mortgage or paying rent. It's not feasible. Don't blame the rink operators. Blame the completely unsustainable cost of the real estate and the energy that it takes to run these things. Like, it's flipping wild. I mean, even the community centers, which are so expensive for communities to build now that it's borderline unfeasible. Like in Surrey, and this is a fast growing city, we are woefully under resourced for like community centers. They've built some new stuff,

but not nearly enough to account for the population growth. And I totally get it, because where is this freaking money supposed to come from? They're so expensive to build. So when you take the kids in for swimming lessons, they will have like, I kid you not, eight plus groups kind of like cordoned off into their like little spots on the ice to go practice ice skating. Like, imagining that you're going to get in like real team sport hockey practice at an affordable price is just, it's a dream. Like, when I was a kid, I had a friend who was not a high

income, they weren't a high-income household, but both kids were in hockey. They had all the gear, they did goalie training, they did coaching, they did, and I'm looking at it now and I'm going, there is single income. There is no way today that that family lives in a detached home. Not at all. And this is in the 90s, this isn't even the 80s, okay? So this is mid 90s. That was a single income household, plus some like hustle work from time to time for the other income. With two kids, hockey lessons, two cars.

It doesn't exist anymore. And someone was asking like, do you think that, you know, the boomer has kind of wrecked it for everyone? I can't speculate on that. All I can say is that the reality that I grew up in And someone was asking, like, do you think that, you know, the boomer has kind of wrecked it for everyone or what? I can't speculate on that. All I can say is that the reality that I grew up in is gone. Is gone. So this is a depressing show.

I want to do some merge messages. Why not? Let's see if they get better. Someone cheer Luke up. With the downfall of late stage capitalism, do you think the world will, no. Dan, that's not a merch message. With SteamOS becoming more of a thing,

would you do another challenge where you and Luke switch as your main OS for a month, playing both newer games and older titles such as Subcom. Yes, I want to. I want to do it again. I've been waiting patiently for SteamOS to be a thing. Is there a specific point where we would do it again? What I was waiting for was for Valve to say, okay, SteamOS is ready for prime time as SteamOS, not as the OS that we run on the Steam Deck. So are we still waiting for that?

I don't think we have to, I don't think we have to. I mean, wait, no, oh, I'm the only one who's Radeon right now, but I mean, that could be one of your challenges. I'm still Radeon, so I could conceivably install SteamOS tomorrow. So yeah, maybe we're not waiting for anything. Maybe it's time.

Are we just both doing SteamOS then? No. Okay, yeah, yeah. But I would go SteamOS. Just because I don't want to deal with nothing. I want a nice installer that I just install and then I use my computer. And I just play games and I don't think about it.

Cool. I am so ready to have a Steam machine in my living room though, or in my family room actually. That's what I'm doing. Straight to SteamOS. Yep, like dude, Windows as my living room though, or in my family room actually. That's what I'm doing. Straight to Steam OS. Yep, like dude, Windows as like a living room, man, and it's funny, like Microsoft was so kind of ahead of the game.

Remember Intel Veev or Vive or whatever, and Windows Media Center Edition. Windows Media Center Edition. They like. So good. I blame the cable, I blame the US cable companies for blocking cable card because dude, like, entertainment on the PC was like poised to be a thing. Eat a dick, Comcast and friends.

Alright, what else we got? Hello, the face, the laugh, and the heart. If the plus sizes are still soon TM, our 4XL plus shirts longer as well as wider? Hopefully avoiding the common trap. Yeah. Oh. If plus sizes are still soon, are the 4XL plus shirts longer as well as wider?

I think a little bit, but they're not tall longer. Reach out to support maybe reach out to support just they are a little backlogged right now We've had a lot more shipments go awry than usual because of you know global logistics completely fucked So our poor support team has been kind of buried. We're throwing more resources at it, but the thing you guys, and I don't want to make excuses, but I do need to offer an explanation. The thing you guys need to understand is our customer support is on shore. These are employees. These are not just like random people in some call center somewhere

with a script that we can just be like, Hey, a call center, we need 30% more resources this week. Oh, like, so we have onboarding, we have hiring, onboarding, training. And the thing that's really challenging is the times when you need to onboard most, the people who would do that onboarding and training are busy answering tickets. So we kind of screwed up and we missed

an opportunity when things were slow before Shipstorm. But then we didn't know Shipstorm was coming. We thought our next big event was going to be, I think, Lime Day. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we- Nobody knew this terrorist event was coming. We bunged it up. So they might be a little while to get back to you, but they will get back to you eventually. Hi, LLD. Any tips for how to avoid info dumping

about a project you've been working on? I'm doing a presentation about my final project for my degree as an industrial electrician and I think I might overdo it. Practice. I thought you meant info dumping like to your friends. Yeah. That's why I said don't.

Practice. Find your SO or your mom and do the presentation and Don't count on them to tell you when they're bored watch their body language when they start to potentially record it fidget or or like Look around or kind of glaze over a little bit Then you know that's boring like time sync your recordings and record yourself and record them and Potentially get a few people if you could get Like time sync your recordings and record yourself and record them. And potentially get a few people, if you could get multiple people, maybe at least three people

to watch it, then, because I feel like if it's one person, they like feel like they have to pay attention. But if there's a crowd, even if it's three people. Well, three is a crowd. Yeah. You might be able to get away with them. even if it's three people Well three is a crowd. Yeah You might be able to get away with them my wife's boyfriend says though, oh boy No, I just spend too much time on our slash Wall Street pets. I got it Stronk Was I gonna say yeah? Feel like it's more socially acceptable to kind of drift off or whatever and you want that because That's gonna be the scenario that you're presenting it. Yes. I am old enough to remember the show threes company

Not because I was actually around when it was airing but because and I've actually I think I was talking about this last week We had satellite TV and one of the channels that we had was Like oldies so like I've watched a fair bit of All in the Family, I Love Lucy, Three's Company. They're so good, like so good, especially I Love Lucy. Lucille Ball is a pioneer. The Plex update. Are you aware it was all to do with separating music so that it could become part of Carplay and Android Auto. No Nice good work flex mine is still broken, but I think it might actually be like a true now as permissions thing or something

I'm having I'm having a check look at it and try and fix it for me. They actually say that I'm a super useful Tester because I managed to find edge cases like nobody else, which is weird because I ain't trying to do anything that complicated. And to be clear, I'm not running HexOS right now. I'm running kind of like a weird, borked, like I installed HexOS when it was like pre, pre, pre-alpha, and then we just configured everything in TrueNAS but then I've updated HexOS so like the front end kind of like is new but I changed a bunch of stuff on the backend

that the new front end like doesn't reflect. It's a whole thing. My experience should not be the same as anyone else's. Hi DLL, finally purchasing a screwdriver. Luke, did you figure out APIs for accessing pricing on the labs website? Some of them, yeah. Some will just have to scrape, right? I mean, we would never scrape. That's bad. Actually a conversation that we were gonna have to

have, but I think I know the conclusion now, so thanks. Good job. Good meeting. Oh. Verbal irony. I think the stance was gonna to be that we would never scrape if yeah unless we were forced to yeah um i think the the line is basically going to be if if a company is overtly like we don't want you to scrape for any reason then it's's like, all right, well, we won't. Like I know of one that- We would never do that. Despite having laid out all of the potential benefits and the complete lack of any effort that they would ever need to do, they don't want it.

So it's like, okay, we're not going to do it. And then their prices just won't be featured on the site and it will be harder for their customers to buy their products. And it is what it is. I don't agree with their decision but it's entirely their decision so cool. But there's some outlets that like might not have any of these features at all and we can be like hey we can just do it and if they're like sure then we'd be scraping. That's the current I think makes sense stance that I was going to take. What if there was like a third party that scrapes the outlet that didn't want people

scraping but we just like use that. We just use their data. Yeah. Because then we're not doing it. If this is the stance you want to go with, it sounds good. I mean, the people need pricing data. The internet is being ravaged right now by scrapers. To pretend that's not happening is like hilarious at this point, so I think I don't care that much anymore.

Oh, yeah, but we would never scrape. I cared a lot in the past. Yeah, we would never do that. But if like the data was like there. Just on the webpage? Like if it was on our site, like it wouldn't be because we scraped it. Right. Right. We're just using a publicly available list from someone else.

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Right. I mean, I don't want to know where it came from necessarily. I just know that I've never scraped. Okay. Yeah. Got it.

Personally, you would never be the one to copy and paste. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Personally? You would never be the one to copy and paste? No. Linus is not gonna go to his monitor with a squeegee and just be like, mm-hmm. No, I wouldn't. Yeah, he wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. My monitors are filthy.

Oh, yeah. Look at this display. It's disgusting. Oh, God. It's actually gross. Yeah. See? There you go.

Hold on. Oh, yeah. Wait. Oh, can? It's even worse. There, that's better. There you go, oh, so gross. See, I wouldn't scrape. Nope, never. I don't know, man. I mean, if you're displaying someone's pricing information

for the purpose of driving customers to their website, I mean. It seems pretty straightforward, doesn't it? It really does. This particular store wants to drive people to come in physically. I mean that's nice But that how are they gonna drive people to come in physically if they don't know the price of the product? So that's pretty asinine

Cool cool Is it Best Buy I'm not answering who it is. Oh yeah, we're not gonna be answering who it is. Yeah. We're just gonna have pricing information probably obtained from some third party who... I don't know where they got it. Who knows? Who knows?

Who knows even who they are? I don't know who they are. I don't know. Next one. Linus, have you watched the Anno 117 trailer? It looks like they may be bringing back land combat like we had in 1602. I haven't yet. Eleven days ago.

Ooh. Gameplay. Looks like new new. I didn't even know this happened So you wish me a Roman governor, that's a cool efficient grids boost productivity Yep, this looks like annual right? I feel like they saw the memes of like every dude thinks about Rome and they were just like Okay

done You have one day Easy Build your lumber camps wisely. All right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, this looks like Anoa, right? I was going to say it looks great. It looks like a Roman skin, but it looks great. I'm not complaining about that to be clear. I wouldn't want them to change it too much to be honest It's kind of steamy in here. Things are ooooo Like that you saw a cargo ship. Oh trade and alliances can build

Okay, so where are we seeing this land combat? Yeah, I haven't seen anything that indicates land combat yet personally hmm trade and treachery Personally, hmm trade and treachery Yeah, well, I don't I don't see anything like that yet. Whoa build a Coliseum let's go for your robots I'll play it. It's yeah, of course. Is this um, yeah. Okay. I didn't even do this. I scrolled down How often you think about the Roman Empire and Oh players yes?

It's it's told it's the meme dude wait land yeah people in the comments land combat is back on the menu Why did we know if we did we just not see that part you might have skipped through it? Nobody timestamped it come on yeah just YouTube commenters time stamp more a lot of the time I have no idea you're talking about that cows walk was hilarious People don't scroll it that much. That's how you know this is in-game footage. Yeah, true. Yeah. It's AI. It's all just fake.

Is that five minutes apparently? Five minutes. How'd I miss that? Yeah, you were right there, weren't you? Yeah, I thought so. Oh. That doesn't indicate anything, by the way. This might.

That sure did, actually. Oh, okay. Land and anything by the way. This might, that sure did actually. Oh, okay. Land and naval combat maybe, interesting. Wow, they show it for half a second maybe. Cool. More. Yeah, hit me. Hey DLL, how do creators cover the significant hours

and costs to get to Computex? Are most on comp flights and hotel or chanceing that views plus sponsor will cover it? Seems like a significant outlay. It's a very significant outlay. So what we do is we sell sponsorships for the videos ahead of time. We get in touch with as many brands as we're able to. A lot of them are really cagey about telling us what they're gonna have at the show, which is, I understand, you know, their perspective, but also it is supremely unhelpful when we are trying to manage, like you said, the hours and cost that the show entails. So, we basically get sponsor commits

upfront for a number of videos that we'll produce. We usually under promise and try to over deliver. And then we do those videos and we make sure that the numbers kind of pan out. Honestly, this year, not great. We didn't get as much content as we would have liked. We did get as much as we promised because we, you know, we tried to play it safe. But even some of the content that we did get, like that gold GPU didn't have to be a Computex video. I just was desperate for something to make a video about and I was like, okay, why don't we arrange to buy a gold GPU while we're there and then if there's nothing, then we'll just like use that as one of our Computex videos.

I could have done that here. And so that was just an additional 8,000 US dollars of cost for that video that is on top of the cost of being in Taipei. Some of it was Creator Warehouse. I think it was only somewhere between 12 and 15 people were there from LMG actually working on video stuff, but that is huge. Hotel for a week, flights to and from, that is an enormous cost. And I suspect we didn't lose money, but I don't think we made much on Computex this year. So I'm...

And that's why it would be helpful if companies just told us what they're freaking bringing, because it's very unlikely that we're not going to go to the show, but we might have a different amount of people going. It would help us with resource allocation for sure. I think next year we'll take a smaller team. Yeah, I mean, if it's anything like this year, I think you'd have to. Oh yeah, it was so slow this year.

Content is not there. Two GPUs that nobody wants, and then a processor that nobody can afford. And that was what the A players had. Yeah. Cool. And everybody else didn't have much. Yeah. Slap AI on it, make no other changes.

Slap a screen on it, make no other changes. And a bigger one. Is there a screen already on your CPU cooler? Cool, make it this big for some reason. Like, what are we doing? It's not like they don't look cool. It's not like I don't understand it. If I see a build on r slash battle station so it has a big screen on the cooler, I'll be like, oh, that's pretty cool. You put your Nyan Cat on there or whatever.

Like, I get it why people might buy it, but don't expect us to be excited about it from a technical standpoint. That's all. us to be excited about it from like a technical standpoint, that's all. More? Oh yeah. Linus, are you still torturing yourself with a bubbly in the fridge or on a new drink? No, that's still my garbage drink that I hate that is my methadone so that I won't drink soda. Oh. Yeah, if I crave something ice ice cold and carbonated then instead of grabbing a soda pop I go for the bubbly It's very helpful that I I think Cola sucks and I can't drink it. Well, I can drink it but it sucks Well, I shouldn't say it sucks cane sugar coke is Pretty good can be pretty refreshing on a hot day, but cola's not really my favorite. So in order to go for to have soda available for guests, but that I won't drink,

I just keep Pepsi and Coke in the fridge. So because most people will drink cola. Oh, no, my weakness is Nes tea, or like sweet and iced tea, like so much sugar. Dude, I would go to Red Robin. They have bottomless drinks. I'd go there back in the day and I would literally down like half a dozen tall iced teas over the span of like sitting there and conversing and appetizers and meal and afterwards and stuff like, Oh, so bad. Speaking of like actually a week's worth of calories, really bad vices. Um, that was another thing that I struggled with in China Your vices more personally This used to be much more of a thing in Taiwan and to Taiwan's credit is not nearly as much of a thing these days

I don't know if you've noticed this change but smoking. Oh, yeah incredibly rampant in China and They don't have any problems with it as far as I can tell being done indoors Yeah, so everywhere you go. There's just clouds Yeah, and I don't do super well with cigarette smoke. So I was like, well, you're not used to it out of it the whole time Yeah, because I had secondhand smoke every single day. Yeah You're gonna have to burn your clothes Did you come back smelling like it? secondhand smoke every single day. Yep. You're gonna have to burn your clothes.

Did you come back smelling like it? I don't think so. Cause I had fresh clothes and the last day was really short until I was just traveling. More. I've been looking to get a framework laptop for a few years now. Do you still carry a framework around? Will you do a review of the framework 12? Also as a PC Linux gamer, it's been seamless. That's good to know. I haven't been on my framework recently. I've been on my

Investment disclosure. Investment disclosure. I've been on my Flow X13. I like that it has the eGPU, I like that it has a pretty powerful onboard GPU, I like being able to turn it into a tablet for like looking at my notes, it has a good keyboard, battery life could be better. I am planning to at least do a short circuit of the Framework 12, pretty excited to see it in person. If there's ever a product, or a brand I should say say what is your laptop doing? Why is it freaking out? It just does that I Also can't change my brightness. I'm probably gonna move off of this thing soon. I

Can't Thunderbolt 5 can't come soon enough for me Tweaking right now so I can just not care about XG mobile you could get a Dell And it just gave up and dude honestly like These WAN laptops have been the best laptops. I've used in a long just kind of bulletproof matte screen Super light dude. They don't have the HDMI issue that we had with the other one the battery life They're not like on some of the recent Dell's are like Really good. I don't man. They won the secret shopper like huge upset victory I'm still not quite sure how it happened

I'm not done. I'm like three quarters through it's not so much that Dell won everyone else lost. Yeah. Yeah, that's the vibe I've been getting so far watching through. Yep Crap was I gonna say I had something to say don't remember this probably didn't matter that much all right hey thanks Jay Thomas just some positive support as someone from the US I truly think the prices on the US are extremely reasonable and honestly not unreasonable compared to other US sites and products then you add on the quality you guys still knock it out of the park heck yeah thank you thanks man we do our. What I was gonna say is, if there was any company

that you really wanted to support, but didn't wanna financially support them that much, just wanted to give an incredible amount of free advertising and have a justified reason for doing so, you could just invest like five bucks and then just investment disclosure it constantly. It's a good move move It'll work around Hold on if I was equally invested in every laptop company would I have to disclose any of them?

No, I'm serious I think so if I put a quarter million dollars into Dell and a quarter million dollars into Asus and MSI and like everyone then then is it it, do they cancel each other out? I wonder, because if you, if you were, if you were like, uh, the answer is no, calm down, but yeah, but if you were invested in, I'm not very good with stock stuff. If you're invested in a, am I going to say the right thing? ETF that invested in one of those companies, then you're not responsible for that. Yeah, that's right.

invested in one of those companies, then you're not responsible for that. You don't have to say anything. Yeah, that's right. But you would still have an interest in that company doing better. But given that it's me and that I literally don't even know what Yvonne has investments in, I legitimately don't know. I think we do own some like, like stock pools like that. Mutual fund, that sort of thing. But I literally don't even know what's in it. And you don't get a choice most of the time to buy or sell.

If she invests in something and you don't know, and then you don't investment disclosure it when talking about it or its competitors, can you get in trouble? I don't know. Oh, I'm sure you could. I don't think you can claim ignorance very easily. If it's part of a like... Please sir.

Oh no, no, no, no. If it's part of a pool of stocks though, like... Like, like, if I mean... If Vaughn has purchased a half a million in Dell. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, like as a spouse. I don't know, man. I gotta be honest with you though.

I think it's less a question of like, is that legal or is that not legal and more a question of like, what would the enforcement of that even look like? Practically nothing. What are the odds? I mean, we know about a lot of this stuff. We've received the emails that were accidentally sent to us instead of other people knowing that these people are doing deals. We know like, I don't know, it's uh... Oh you're talking just like undisclosed like sponsorships and

stuff? Yeah, I know, I know. It's not my place to just like become a drama creator and like out other creators. That's not even what we're talking about. So that's separate from like the stocks discussion. Anyway. This is for Luke. With his new obsession with Westaboos, have you seen or heard of cowboy action shooting what to participate?

You are required to dress up and have a cowboy nickname. It's cosplay with gun Cow okay, what cowboy action? It's a competition Yo! You got a little feathered cap going on? This is a family friendly sport. Real guns with live ammo. With rope on? Oh, duallys! Yeah!

Dually revolvers! Pull one back a little bit to shoot the other one for absolutely no reason. Let's go! That's sick. It's fun, I used to do it. I don't know that looks like it's probably fun. I have no idea Why not sure I'm assuming it's shotgun lever action dually revolver. I'm assuming it's three gun. Oh, yeah Insomniac said it's three gun with old-school cowboy air gear. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, that's that's pretty cool actually yeah Yeah, that's that's pretty cool actually. Yeah, yeah. It's real, real actual shooting sport. You run kind of from station to station.

And there will be like usually on the table, there would be a firearm there with ammo and you would like load it and then shoot at that station. Then you go to the next one. One of the stations is probably for your, your dually pistols. I don't know, whatever. Let people have fun. There's so much darkness. Oh yeah. Everybody's gotta have their special little guy. Yeah.

Linus, do your kids think your job is cool? Or is dad's job always by default, quote unquote, uncool to kids, even if it's successful YouTuber? Um, no, my job is definitely cool. And that's not that... Seriously, like, I... This comes from a place of, like, generally, you know, overthinking almost everything about parenting and, you know, try... Legitimately making an effort to not be a super uncool parent, but also not trying to be too try-hard.

Like I'm trying to kind of ride the line, you know, like I game with my kids, but when their friends are over, I try not to insert myself into, you know, their gaming situation, you know, stuff like that, right? But, content creator is litter content creator is literally the most desired job on this continent so yeah a lot of their friends like know what Yvonne and I do and think it's pretty neat for

the most part they're not weird about it, which is really cool because I just like, wanna be my kid's dad when we're hosting a birthday party or whatever else, but it's actually, I'd say it's more the parents that make it weird and like ask too many questions and stuff when I'm just trying to like be a parent of my kids and you know, flip burgers or whatever.

Um yeah overall it's uh overall it's good it's good. Yeah yeah. DLL Phil major here, considering Gabe plus Elon's investment in brain chips how augmented must humanity be to become inhuman? On the other end how lacking must a human be to become inhuman on the other end how lacking must a human be to become inhuman there's tons of arguments that were already augmented oh I like that one too yeah there's a lot of people that like basically can't function without their phone attached to them how dare you so like it doesn't get to use this like is it to fact is it wireless? Does it really make that big of a difference? That's always been my argument. Yeah. It's in my hand. I don't leave my pocket. To be honest,

I like that one too. I think the like kind of modern era of smartphones has has already effectively started. I don't know the answer to this, but what I do know is that the people who cross that threshold will not realize it. Because like we just don't we're not it's like when you're hangry. It takes a pretty exceptional person I've observed to recognize that and rectify it like to have the self-awareness and the presence of mind to recognize when you are no longer yourself, even with something that is as rapidly or that onsets as rapidly as that, is pretty unusual in people. And so, to imagine what percentage of the population would recognize the slow, slow evolution into becoming more and more augmented and how that impacts their manner of behavior and their thinking processes, I think

would be... I just don't think it would be a thing. Here's a question. Yeah. If your body was failing, you're old, it's, it's, it's time. You're going to be saying goodbye to the mortal coil sometime soon. And you know, that whole like a freeze your brain thing. Yeah. If that crew of people kind of figures it out and it's, it's not freeze your brain. It's brain jar and it works now You can effectively be a computer You can plant your brain from your dying body into a jar Yeah, I don't think my brain is important enough to preserve in that way, but no no it's still be you It's I know but I but like what would I do?

I don't keep making YouTube videos. You could get one of those boxing robot bodies and keep moving around and exist and stuff. You could be there for your kids. I want my senses. I want to experience things. We could have digital versions of those. Or we could put you in a body and give you that. Okay, you keep changing the scenario. I thought we're talking about a brain in a jar. Yeah. Well, a brain in a jar is not the same thing. You could hook a brain in a jar up to stuff. This would be past like Neurolink, if you know what I mean. Okay, so hold on. What is it? So I have a mechanical body. Sure. I can sense things as I would. Literally just ghost in the shell. I can perceive the world as I would.

I don't know if I would 100% say that it would be as you would. It could be a little bit different. Well, that changes the calculus, doesn't it? It might actually technically be enhanced. Like you might have like telescoping cameras and stuff of eyes. Ghost in the shell. Coming back to our conversation from the pre-show, does my d*** work? The question you should be asking is,

do all of them work? Okay, and- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, making big advancements in delaying aging and potentially even reversing aging. There's been some really promising experiments on mice and stuff. And so, you know, it's something that I've like thought about because conceivably, if I were to keep earning at the rate that I am now, I could potentially afford an experimental anti-aging treatment once I reached the point where yeah, I'm about to kick it. And there's a couple things that I've thought about, you know, about that scenario.

Like I think it'd be a really interesting like sci-fi story where like the people, the rich people who could afford anti-aging are like mingled in with the population of like naturally youthful people. And there's a distrust in the dating scene of like- Pete Slauson Like, are you actually 170 years old? Jared Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson But I'm a 24 year old. Jared Slauson And so, kind of like Blade Runner, right?

Where the robots are trying to mix in with the humans. You have these old people that are trying to pass as young people and like live their, in some cases, second or third or fourth or fifth, you know, lifetime. And the resentment from the natural... These are like the actual people when it's like you should have bought a house when you were a fetus and they're like, huh. Yeah. And so, like, I'm imagining the resentment, the natural people, because I'm kind of imagining this world is sort of resource limited. And so, most of the people being born today can't afford more than one life. And so, people who are out, there's this deep resentment towards the people who are on their

fifth one. And like, I thought about, okay, like, you know, what would be the markers that these ancient people would go to great lengths to conceal? You know, one of them might be teeth. You know, they would try to have teeth that are not too perfect, but look, you know, the right age and they'd have to get them like, maybe surgically replaced every five years or so, so that they kind of match the state of their aging. And so like it's stuff that I thought about a little bit just as just kind of a fun thought experiment.

I think that'd be a really cool story that someone smarter than more creative than me could write. Like Blade Runner, but for boomers? Yeah, yeah, Boomerunner. You're actually a boomer. You were born in the 2000s, get him. Anyway, one of the things that I've thought about is, you know, the heartbreaking story of the person

who could afford to extend their own lifetime, but not their spouse and not their kids, and what that life would be. Like, could I watch my children grow old and die? Absolutely not, I'd rather be dead. And so, okay, right. So let's say I could afford my wife and kids, would I be willing to watch my grandchildren go old and die?

Because once the family gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, the resources required to continue to invest in these anti-aging treatments grows exponentially until at some point, you know, you run out. If you just worked a little harder 270 years ago, your investments would be stronger now and now you could keep the third generation alive. Yeah, or something like, I don't know, right?

Like, so the question for me is less one of like, would I want to stay alive? And it's more a question of, would I want to continue to be alive in a world that doesn't contain all the people that I grew old with? Because I mean, looking at some of the aging members of my family, you know, a big part of what makes them lose the motivation to live is watching everyone that they ever formed a deep connection with leave them. It also gets a lot harder to form deep connections with people.

Well, that's the problem, isn't it? And... I think a lot of it is the permanence. When you're a kid, when you make a friend. A friend. It feels like you now have this friend. Oh, my daughters come home from a lesson and they made a friend and I'll be like,

what's your friend's name? They're like, I don't know. But like, this person is awesome. Yeah. And they wanna, and now like. It's all fluid. Now it's like, okay, I meet someone, but it's like, oh man,

am I gonna know this person in six months? Yeah. Is it worth investing time and effort into this? Are they into it? What do we actually have in common? Because now that you're out of school, a lot of people's motivations are financial or connection-based instead of just wanting to be friends.

Especially for people like us. I am deeply suspicious of people who want to cozy up to me. Yeah, me too. I'm very untrusting deeply suspicious of people who want to cozy up to me. Yeah me too That's dating in your 30s and 40s. Yeah, I'm sure I I Have heard that you know dating is good or whatever when you're in your 20s And then a lot of people get hitched and it gets really bad and then a lot of divorces happen. It gets better Everybody's been telling me this is getting better since I was a child. I'm waiting. Oh sorry Dan. I think it gets better a little bit later than now. No you're quite right. There is that interesting lull.

I do think that- Are you running into that yet? I feel like still not for a bit. You can't ask him that on the show. Why? He can ask me whatever the hell he wants. He can not answer it. He can decide to not answer it. It's a very inappropriate question from a boss. Yes, it really is. What about from a friend? I'm just buddy buddy up to you. It's after 5.30, we're not at work anymore.

Dude, I think the difficulty of dating in your late 30s, early 40s, significantly contributed to my sister's decision to take her own life, honestly. She had a goal. Humans want companionship. Well, yeah. She wanted a life partner.

And it never happened. And I think that it was, obviously, it's a combination of factors, so I'm not going to pin it entirely on that. But I do think that realizing that that was never going to happen was a big part of just sort of looking into the future going. What is there for me? What is there? And I think that lots of other people who didn't have those aspirations or found other ways to get fulfillment

would not behave the same way. And I certainly hope not. Yeah. But I, yeah, I think that was a significant factor. That makes sense. It's tough, but like, I mean, again, when you get to this point where it's hard to make friends, I feel like- The connections even.

Yeah, 100%. I feel like the ones that you do have either fall off or tend to become stronger and that also applies to your partner. Like I understand I've been with Emma now for a long time but I don't think that's just it. I actually had some surprisingly long relationships when I was younger as well. But I think yeah I think in a lot of ways ideally in an ideal situation you end up having fewer naturally but the ones that you do have get stronger and I think that's like a fairly normal part of life

So you want that person to be there and then I think losing them hits way harder. Oh, yeah and like on so many levels too, yeah, because part of you is thinking about how you You can't recreate that Dark 24 says get get a dog. Now I have to live another 12 to 14 years just to take care of this permanent toddler. Nice. There are helpful bits to that. I actually kind of twisted my aunt's arm into getting a cat, which it's a little complicated. So Dash, our oldest cat, has been extremely aggressive with especially

one of the new cats and she's been unhappy. So, you know, ultimately the decision was made to have my aunt, just take her for, you know, a couple of weeks to give the other cats a bit of a break from the cranky old lady. And I've been trying to convince my aunt to get a cat for a long time, because she's always had animals, lovebirds were her thing, and then she had a rabbit before that, but she's never had a cat, and she's the kind of person that I feel like

just never discovered she was a cat lady. I was gonna say, it really does fit. Oh yeah, anyway, so- I don't mean that in a negative way No, that's actually amazing. She's amazing So she she held on to her for a couple weeks and then we took her back and then we went on vacation We're like, okay Can you take her again and so she took her again and then all of a sudden she was going on vacation and we were

supposed to take Dash back and sudden she was going on vacation and we were supposed to take Dash back and instead we found out my aunt had actually arranged for my grandmother or my step-grandmother to take her for the couple weeks. We were actually kind of like, oh, okay, it would have been nice if we actually kind of wanted her back for a bit because we miss her. But this was sort of, you know, what we kind of hoped might happen, so I guess that's fine. And then, so now she's actually like, we're like, hey, we're open to taking her back whenever, and she's like, no, we're good. And we can go see her anytime, and she is literally in probably a better home than she

has with us, because she gets so much attention and she wants to be an only cat. But where was I going with this? Oh, right, right, right. I think animal companionship is extremely healthy for people. It's just, you know, the loss can be really difficult. Like I have another relative that after having a dog for like 16, 17 years, that dog lived forever. They basically were just like, I am not open to having my heart broken like this again. I will never get another dog. Period. Someone else had a comment that I had wanted to reply to. Oh yeah, Gremlin Injector says, I blame the downfall of eHarmony. They had an amazing system back in 2010, but obliterated it after Match Group bought them. It was like 300 questions that told a third of the applicants that they were not dating material and kicked them off. For real. That was the only app I used. Met my wife on eHarmony when it was amazing in 2011. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that. Man, why is it like, why do companies that acquire, or like venture capital groups that acquire companies feel the need to wreck them? It's like the thing that made you want to buy it is still there, you could just not break it. Just an idea. I think I was I think it was on the verge. I was reading an article about someone who

wrote a really good book about just sort of the ens***ification of everything and how venture capital is basically just ruining absolutely everything. And we're just watching it happen in real time. Everything from the medical industry to the veterinary practices that I've talked about before that's happening locally. Yeah, I mean, they're all rough. Everything's rough, it's all rough. They really like, I think it's like just as important. I think it's just as important

as them figuring out legislation for AI stuff, is they need to solve this. They need to get venture capital investment out of residential. That's something is horrifically wrong with that laptop. They need to get out of residential. They need to put caps on certain things, like just completely taking over,

effectively creating monopolies. Like this is, there are laws against this. Because you have all these competing companies or whatever, but they're all owned by like a handful of venture capital. Yeah, like there are laws against this. Cause you have all these like competing companies or whatever, but they're all owned by like a handful of venture capital. Yeah, like it's like, there are laws against this. Stop like, do something about it. It's literally ruining the world anyways.

All right, Dan, give us some good news. Hello DLL, longtime alcoholic, first time public urinator. The show writes itself, Linus, do you ever miss your folding phone? I got a fold six from work earlier this year. I have been loving it, especially for multitasking. Yeah, I do miss it sometimes. I've been really unhappy with the Pixel 9a.

I think a bug I did talk about last time I complained about it was the proximity sensor. It works great when I'm trying to pull down my notification shade and I have to box with it to try and get it down. And then sometimes it doesn't work when I take a call and my ear starts changing all of my quick settings. The battery life is so good though. I'm at 79% right now. That's pretty wild

I haven't plugged it in today like it's crazy I'm at 50 started at 90 Yeah, you're at 36 like dude. This thing is this thing is nuts I don't even think about charging it really like I'll plug it in at night out of habit, but if I forget it doesn't matter Yeah, it's awesome sorry, I just saw a weird message on my phone. This isn't a weird message, but this is a weird dude. So you're doing okay? Yeah, actually. Nice. Yeah, it would be great if you came to the council meeting, period.

I'll let you know when it will be. Oh yeah, I'm trying to get some people to you. Yeah. Yeah, that would be good. Cool. Have you guys been on a cruise before? No. There are Alaska ones that leave out of Vancouver.

My wife gets motion sick. Not a lot of Canadians are very motivated to go to America right now. I wasn't gonna bring that up, but okay. Apparently it seems to be somewhat mutual. Not a lot of Americans are coming to Canada right now either. Oh, okay. So. Alright. Sounds good. How will we know when the winners are picked for the ROG upgrade contest? We'll contact you. What? We'll contact you. Should be pretty soon, I think. Elijah was looking through them earlier this week. In fact, if you haven't been contacted for like, an interview already, you're out. I think.

He thinks. I think. I don't know that for sure, though. I don't have a doesn't know for you. And the last one I've got for you guys, quick for sure though. I don't have a doesn't know for you. And the last one I've got for you guys, quick question for Luke, are you still planning on attending open sauce? Absso-freakin-lutely. I will be there. That's all I got?

We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye!