The Watch - Jason Mantzoukas Looks Back on This Year in Television and Film | The Watch (Ep. 313)

Episode Date: December 11, 2018

Jason Mantzoukas joins to talk about the trailer for the ‘Triple Frontier’ movie (10:14), the new ‘Avengers’ trailer (17:57), ‘The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel’ Season 2 (34:31), and ‘Bodyguard’ (43:14). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Jason Mantzoukas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Earth selections, go to BrilliantEarth.com slash watch. I need sports to have to clear the room. Stand up and walk now. Hello, and welcome to the watch. My name is Chris Ryan. I am Netta EarthRinger.com, and joining me in the studio is Andy Greenwald.

And the real Mandalorian, Jason Van Zookas. Whopoom! That's how we make it pop on Mandalorian Island. Wait, is that next to Taboo Island? No, I think, I mean, do you think that Mandalorian requires its own island yet? Am I the only one who's really checking for it? I think this podcast is the Internet's number one source of Mandalorian. Oh, that is, you are so wrong.

Fan hearsay. There are Star Trek, Star Wars nerds who are like, like pouring over every image, like trying to figure out what's going on? Googling, what is a baby? Oh, yeah. And what emotion is a real baby? Where is this baby from? Where do babies come from on Mandelurian? What's it?

Jason, thank you for coming by it. Do they make the Mandalorian armor for? for babies? Do Mandalorians make babies the way we do? So he basically lone wolf and cub as mandolian? That's what he said. I was like,

since when did you know anything about Magna? Magna? Take a walk. Do the look for Jason. How do they work? Magna is what Jared Kushner's been writing in his office. Hashtag manga.

Okay. Can you please give Jason the look you shot me when I said, well, like the famous manga, lone wolf and cuss. It was the flat face emoji. Yeah, I feel like the only reason you know about lone wolf and cub is because that Sam Mendi's movie was based on it. You fucking love Sam Mending's.

You don't know about my pre-fubescent years at Fat Jack's Comic Crypt. Oh, is that right? I guess I don't. Fat Jax. Now you do. We're here today. We're going to talk. We'll probably talk about 45 minutes about the Mandalorian.

I'm on in on it. I feel like, how are you not in the Mandalorian? By the way, great question. Allow me to lobby currently on this show. Put me in the Mandalorian guys. It seems like you could be a bartender. Get me in that armor. An arms dealer.

Yes, I'll fucking sell arms. I was all about selling arms to Eden's nest. That's right. Who is that crew in Solo? Oh, yeah. You were never going to hear from again? Oh, no, they're coming back. Listen, there are people who could look at your IMDP page and be like salty, bitter that you have not yet made an appearance in the Marvel Cinematic Universe or the Star Wars cinematic universe.

Those people are me. Yeah. Or you could just say, well, it's an opportunity. Absolutely. There, it is virgin territory. Sure. It's untapped. We don't know who I will be.

We don't yet know who I will play in the Marvel universe. In the extended Star Wars universe, we don't yet know. You should do this every interview. You should just be like, I can neither confirm nor deny. Yes, that they want me. I can't talk about the Wolverine thing. Fair. I can't talk about that.

I just want to say that I can't be the only one who is disappointed when watching the trailer for Avengers Endgame, which we should talk about. Oh, yeah. That when Scarlet Jo Anson approached the black-clad samurai on a future city street, that when the figure turned around it wasn't you. Oh, wait, the minute, but from the back, from the back, we all knew it was Ronan because he's wearing the Ronan thing. And I was like, oh, hot guys turned to Ronan in this movie, and I was like, keep flipping

those houses, Renner. Come on. Don't let Chris say he knew. Chris did not know that reference. I didn't know it. I thought I was just like, why can't this guy smile? Like, Rainer, so funny as tag. Well, because my assumption is his entire family has been killed.

Poof. In the snap. In a snap. Yeah. Cardiolini did not survive. Yeah. That's right. El Carts. See you later.

See you later. Lindsay from Freaks and Geeks. You want to put your arms around what we're going to talk about here before we just do this? Sure. You want to lay some groundwork around? We can talk about Avengers now if you wanted to. I also really want to talk about the Triple Frontier trailer. I also think that Jason is here because there's some unfinished business.

He had a list, perhaps a note on his iPhone, of topics that he wanted to bring to bring to us. No, no, I'm here to talk about whatever. Listen, I'm just here to compete. I just want to be competitive in the end of year watch episodes. I know Sam S. Mal has already called his shot and said that it's the best episode of the year. I would like to preemptively say this, right here is the best episode of the watch. You're going to listen to all year audience. So fucking deal with that, Sam S. Mal. This is already livelier. Oh, yeah. I can account Try to compute that, Mr. Robot. Yeah.

That's good. Yeah. A homecoming of sorts? No. Yes. A homecoming of sorts. So what do you want to do first? You want to do Triple Frontier?

You want to do Avengers? No, I want to welcome our guest. Yeah. And I want to say, we missed you this year, but it's a good, you've been busy. You've been traveling. You've been working a lot. I have. I wanted to tell our listeners that a film you made called a Long Dum Road is available to stream

and rent. I did it. Thank you, thank you, friend. I enjoyed the shit out of it. Yeah, please. If you're around and you want to watch a great, funny road trip. movie? Why not buy or rent the Long Dome Road? Did you make that in Albuquerque? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, baby. I got to tell you, I enjoyed this for a couple of reasons. One, I enjoyed

the film. Two, I enjoyed seeing my buddy Jason in this movie. He's great in it. Three, there's a moment early on when Tony Revely's character drops your character off at a sort of small Texas town for a bus station that doesn't exist. And I was like, well, hello, Belend, New Mexico. I location scouted that street myself. Oh, yeah. We shot half of our locations were all. hell or high water locations that they had just shot in or whatever. So it was a, it's like Albuquerque has such a recycling of places.

It's crazy. There's like a, gotta be a finite amount of actual buildings. There are. Like it's the same bar. You'll see the same bar in all the movies. That's too funny. The same clouds.

The same vistas. The same clouds. Beautiful vistas. What I like best. Those clouds are threatening to unionize. What is that? Netflix actually just preemptively bought all the clouds. Oh yeah.

So other studios are struggling. I just wanted to say that not only, people don't know this, and I'm sorry to put you on the spot here, but not only is Jason a beloved podcast guest, he's the kind of guy who, when you say you're going to be filming a show in Albuquerque, chimes in on text with supportive messages like,

get ready to die. That place is dicey, man. I just wanted to say, thank you. I'm, like, amazed that you survived. I think that we shot in... They'll take a guy like you, like straight apart, man. They'll pick you, they'll sense you're the writer,

Your first day there, Michael K. Williams comes up to you and tries to sell you a cigarette. There was our first day, I think we were on set. The taxi that brought me to the airport, my last day, there was dried blood on the seatbelt clicker. I was like, what is this? You got me even going on, even trying to get out of here, Albuquerque. There's only two days you spend in Albuquerque. The day you arrive and the day you find blood in the taxi on the way of the airport. We shot in a motel that.

a shirtless junkie came up to Tony Reveloery and was like, hey man, you gotta get out of here. This place is dangerous. I was like, Tony was like, that seems pretty weird. I was like, yeah, how lucky are you? We just got warned by that shirtless junkie. He could have been like, because I'm dangerous. Yes, I can't.

He goes, after dark, this place gets really, really bad. Big fan of Grand Budapest. Big, big fan. There was a meta level to the whole movie for me, because your character, Richard, it's a bit of a near-do-well. He's living on the margins of society. Absolutely. And yet there's a moment when, I think Ron Livingston says, like,

you haven't been in Albuquerque in a minute. You're always going to come back to Albuquerque. The fact that there was this location-centric bonding of character-in-lawed. I believed in that. I believed that Richard was an Albuquerque boy. He understood it. I hate to be like a coastal leave, but I have to admit, I can't believe how much I've talked about Albuquerque in the last couple years.

Wow. When you were growing up, were you like, did you even know what Albuquerque was? No way. I thought it was just like an old Westdown. Here's the thing. Do we know what it is now? It's changing, baby. Yeah, babe.

Like, get in business. It's the new Marfa. Kirk, last thing. It's the new Marfa. You did double Albuquerque from Marfa in this movie as well. We did, yeah. The director, writer and director of the movie. Because it's supposed to travel from Texas all the way and they wanted to have a stop in Marfa.

That's great. Yeah. The writer and director of this film remind me, Hannah Fidel. Hannah Fidel. I did not know going in. Because often when you see movies made by young people, you're like, oh, I wonder if they had a connection in the film business.

And that's not the case. It's a much more exciting case of nepotism because I didn't know going in that this woman is royalty to me. Her mother is Linda Greenhouse. Yes. The award-winning Supreme Court reporter for the New York Times. True. By the way, I was star-struck about this. Did you get a lot of like greenhouse anecdotes on set?

A lot of Supreme stuff? Oh, yeah, bro. Oh, I'm like, draft. In a great old old. I hung out with her mom. I hung out with her mom. After a screening in New York, got all the deets. Yeah, tell me.

No, I'm not dragging. I can't drop that greenhouse gossip. Who are you shipping on the court? Be honest. After talking to her. Oh, I'm always shipping Sotomayor. And Gorsuch, man. And Gorsuch, man.

They were like high-fiving the other day about something. It's great. Yeah. That's great. I love it when the court high-fives. Yeah. Because, you know, who wins? Justice.

Jesus. Justice Antonin and Scalia, RIP, up there in heaven looking down. Long Dumb Road. Congratulations on this movie. It was really fun to watch. Thank you, guys. People go check it out, but not until we're done with this podcast.

Yeah, I'll listen to the rest of this pod. And then we'll get into it. Do you want to do triple? I do want to do triple frontier. Set it up because you just set this up for us in a way that was joyful. Well, it was just like this is a movie that has been in the works for about 10 years, I would say, maybe eight. It was, I think, a little Mark Bold jay. for a while.

Like something Bowel was working on after he unpacked the whole bin Laden thing and... Case closed on that. Catherine Bigelow was going to direct it.

At various points I think Will Smith is been... A classic MB, KB. Yeah, and Will Smith was involved. Affleck's been in and out of it for a while. Basically, anybody you could think of like Jimmy Fox was going to be in it for a while but it's been this script that's been

oh, Tom Hanks was friggin in it, I think, for a while. And there's like, it's been this this script that was going to get made, but then would always fall apart at the last second. And it was like, had like weird financing where it was like, there are 74 producers on this. But of course, then Netflix comes in, seals the deal, gets J.C. Shandor to do it.

Oh, interesting. And also, just on as a side note, been rewatching a margin call recently. Really? I feel like one thing I have to say is that I would love it if we brought back Glass-Eagle, but I think it would be bad for movies. That's a really, that's a next-level take.

So anyway, Martin calls really good. Linda Greenhouse is on the line. We're in on that. And anyway, Triple Frontiers coming out on Netflix next year. And it starts Ben Affleck, Oscar Isaac. I can just do this off the top of my head. I don't even need my computer. Ben Affleck, Oscar Isaac, Garrett Headland,

Charlie Hunnam and Pedro Pascal. And it's about five special operatives who are kind of at the end of their rope and have nothing to show for their years of service to this country. So they decide to rob a cartel head somewhere in the jungle in South America. and I mean we were sitting there we just watched the trailer together with Jason Jason was like when is when is crazy train or something

No boys are back in town Boys are back in town Finn Lizzie's boys are back in town Should have been used Bob Dylan Masters of War It's way better With something with a bad remix of it It's like they kind of did do

Like I feel like we're starting to get into Black Mirror territory where I feel like my intellectual interests are being scraped by Netflix And they're just creating content It's just an algorithm I feel like yeah I feel like their algorithm gave them the cast, the topic, the script, and... It's Mission Sicario Fall Act.

Yeah. Day of the Saldon part too. When the script was delivered via Courier to Netflix headquarters just down the street first, Garrett Headland was stapled to the script. He was just part of the package. Yeah, so this is... I like this trailer for a couple of different reasons. One is that Affleck looks like Madam Tussauds, Affleck.

I didn't know if we were going to talk about this. No, he looks great. He looks great. Uh-huh. But has a certain waxen kind of vibe to his body. Yeah, he looks like he went to, like, a Hollywood tanning in facial salon and said, like, give me the famous. They all look, like, handsome as fuck.

Yes. They all look, like, for guys that through multiple scenes appear to be, like, traversing a rainy jungle. Yes. They all look so clean and handsome in every shot. That I don't like. It's weird when they say they have nothing to show for their 14 years of service other than fantastic pores.

Oh, a grape bone structure. Yes. And trench foot, which we do so. Yes, and Legionaire's disease. It's really, the best kind of trailer is because I was talking with the conception about this before we came in and he mentioned like he loves how when movie trailers they'll say like the guy's name and then they get one line. Yes, I'm a big fan of that.

We don't leave messes like that. Yeah. You know they sold this movie to each of them like, no, this movie is like predator, but like for real. But you can tell. You guys are like in the jungle. You can tell that like Hunnam got. short straw because he barely

has, he's like, it gets pretty crazy out here. And then like everybody else you can kind of tell like, oh, that's going to be the tracker. That's going to be the explosives guy. No, I completely disagree. I watch that and I'm like Hottom's the wild card. Oh, Hannaam, I feel like Hunt him dies first. See, I feel like they don't have a wild card in that cast.

I feel like they blew it. They blew it because the cast is all hunks. That's right. They needed, they needed, like, yes, frankly, they do. They need a me. They need a couple of randos in there so that you can have us do funny stuff and then kill us quick. They need Gi-Amati.

Yes. Come on, Gi-A-Mati. Cuts to you and Jammati hang you from the helicopter. You're like, guys, little help? Maybe there's a cameo from Gi-A-Madi as like the dude who's on Overwatch. Like the guy who's got all the screens and is like directing the air support or something. He's got drones in the field. We're deploying drones.

Does it matter that there is no longer any attempt for a project like this to be made for people other than Chris? There is no even wink towards like universal appeal anymore. That's not true. There's literally like... There's me, there's men who still enjoy Tom Clancy novels. There's women who like any of the guys in this movie. Right. There's just like there's tons of stuff.

No, no. What I mean is though, this is, I keep trying to work this out week by week. And now that Jason's here for, I feel like you're going to fix it for. Yeah, let's break us down. This was the beginning of the Aquaman thing where I'm just like, I think I'm just upset on some level because I want this to be like Oscar consideration. Like we made this for everyone. There's an extra surprise person here.

But you want Aquaman to be that or you want... Well, I just feel like Aquaman. I'm not sure if it exists was my take on Aquaman. Yes, the movie Aquaman. Yes. You think... You know this isn't the Aquaman from the Entourage franchise. Are we sure about that?

How far does this thing go? That would be pretty wild. What I mean is like... If they released the movie... Yes. And no joke, Adrian Grenier was the star of it. And this was all unalienable. Elaborate, like, oh, yeah, was at the beginning of it.

They high five. They high five, and it was a straight Aquaman colon, entourage two. Can you with a straight face tell me that would be worse? It would be better. Yes. Unquestionably better. Okay, here's what I'm asking from the way that I get to see the boys again. I'm talking about drama.

I'm talking about Turtle. I'm talking about what's E up to? I mean, directed that Gotti movie. Are Ian Sloan getting along? What's up with Ian Sloan? Guys, if this movie had gone through that traditional process, well, like, either it would have just been a dead script that everyone had been attached to for many years,

or there would have been a moment maybe, and this might be false nostalgia for a worse system, but maybe those market forces and the people falling in and out of it would have forced the movie potentially, and we're talking about the sight unseen, to be a movie that might have had higher ambitions than we're going to make, you know, American Special Ops Narcos in the Jungle as a heist movie,

which, by the way, could be good too. Yeah. I'm just asking about, this is just a little market check-in, guys. Wait, is your question, why isn't it have broader appeal? It feels more specialized to you? Oh, that's interesting. I don't think it is, actually. I don't think it is proof of life or something like, they make thrillers.

I think this is like a higher caliber den of thieves. Okay, I guess what I'm saying is. And Den of Thieves is like baby heat. By the way, Den of Thieves, no joke, great movie. Den of thieves is fucking legit. Den of thieves is a legit good movie. Jerry Butler, like, oh. real, I mean on den of these two.

Jerry Butler, I saw him one day out and he is the, I either is either the first person to get back into boot cut jeans or he is the only guy who's like, I fucking look like Gerard Butler, I don't have to get rid of my boot cut jeans in the first place. Yeah, it's probably that. But he was holding it down for bootcuts

either way. Was he wearing boots? Yeah. Tell me flip-flops. No. Scrap what I was saying. I just wanted to tell you guys, like just that sometimes I'm a Johnny drama, but sometimes I'm a turtle. Here's the thing. You did this whole a little bit with the Aquaman thing, and I think I was a little bit confused by it the first time around.

But then... Now the third time we're doing it. No, no, no. The special guest. I was thinking about this with the Avengers stuff. Okay. Okay, so like... And the funeral, the funereal, like a kind of vibe of end game.

This trailer just came out last week. It's weird, but just taking the Avengers movies themselves, I feel like in retrospect, nothing ever really happened with that. It was so much effort to get the boulder up the mountain. First of all, tell that to the citizens. of Socovia. Yeah.

Yeah, man. What about, like, what about all those that died in Sokove? I never forget. Yeah. Okay, I'd take it back. We would never even have

the Accords named after. But it was actually kind of like a brilliant thing where they, it took a long time to like mount it and then they've spent the last two years kind of bringing it down. But there was actually nothing up there

when they got it. Very, and there was nothing up there. And you could argue that like the most significant growth and the most interesting moves that they made within all of this were all in the Captain America a franchise.

We're not in the Avengers movies. You track the Russo Brothers involvement. They're actually... But Winter Soldier and Civil War were probably the two like... Most substantial kind of plot moves for the entire structure of all those people. Right. You know, those last two movies

were Avengers movies, basically. I think that it's also an example of success just being contagious because had they not pulled off so many things and movies and the entire buildup to these last two movies, I think a lot of people would be remembering

the age of Ultron, which is not a good movie. And not at all... Still definitely a movie where James Spader plays robot Hitler. That is true. But it's the kind of thing where, had they not course corrected,

that was a false step towards a style of movie making and a universe building that they were just like, nope, that's not working. And they quickly did it, and they memory hold it. And it's like, other than the Accords,

which again, never forget. And you're not wrong. And it's something that when you look at Aquaman or when you look at Aquaman or what DC is kind of mired in right now. They don't know up from down. You know, like Marvel, I think, both because they had some big picture idea of what they

were doing and then also because I think Kevin Feigey does a pretty good job controlling it and being able to be nimble enough to move and pivot and shift. DC is now trapped in a situation where they don't know, they don't have that guiding force, and they've done all of these movies, whatever number of movies deep on the Zach Snyder nonsense, stuff and have gotten themselves in a position where Wonder Woman works. Aquaman looks like it's going to work. And so now they've got like kind of half and half. Half of their Justice League kind of works and half of it simply does not.

And so how do you move forward if you're them? I think that they're just going to make, I think that that's like one of the things that Vettam taught us. And I think that's one of the things that Aquaman will teach us, which is just like. One taught me patience. One taught me pain. Isn't that the bit? One taught you tremble frontier.

I think that they'll just like make. these one-off movies. I think they're going to kind of abandon the universe until they have five that work. And then they'll be like, what if we got Aquaman and Harley Quinn and like one of the suicide squad guys together? And then that'll be like what they do. I hope it's the big lizard guy.

Who's the big lizard guy? I don't know. I only saw the trailer. But what did you guys think of this end? I'm sorry to go back to Marvel, but I just feel like that was a big drop. I thought it was okay. It was fine. It was like a teaser. So it was they purposefully are going to give you not much or mislead you. So

it was fine. They're not going to show stuff that I actually care about. And I am curious, I think these will be satisfying to watch back to back. And only that. Yeah. I found the first have to be a lot of setup. Yeah. And only okay.

And I think it's going to feel like the last two Harry Potter movies, which I think watched together are a good movie. But split are unsuccessful. Right. Which to you, Jason. That's kind of like the Hobbit movies too. Oh, yeah. Where they were like, let's just hit pause right in the middle here.

for another 14-minute song where everybody gets to sing. And they do dishes? There's 13 dwarves. Wow, I'm not sorry. And do dishes and sing songs. Gave these a miss. Jason, to you, what is the bigger tragedy

that was wrought by Thanos's finger snap? Was it the death of Peter Parker or the loss of Captain America's beard? Oh, well, that is one thing I noticed. I was like, okay, so enough time has passed since Thanos's snap that Steve Rogers has gone back to blonde hair. Yeah.

And no beard. And there is not the kind of shadow Steve Rogers, like... Which is weird because don't, doesn't it usually... Like, you grow a grief beard, right? You let yourself go. No, he's back. He's also wearing, like, a more colorful uniform. He's like back, baby.

Is he happy? Like, has he moved on? He seems pretty messed up. He's pretty stoked. I think... I think Cap is going to be stoked in this movie that like everybody's dead. Like inappropriately stoked. He's like super stoked.

So, is there actually... actually a comic called Endgame? Not that I don't know. There might be, but I don't know. Not a famous one, I don't think. So they're not going off of canon where they're like, this is how this has to wrap. No, they're.

And I think, you know, it's widely speculated that Captain America will die in this movie. To sacrifice himself. They've already, but in the comics, the character who kills Captain America has already been killed in this storyline. It's Crossbones. Oh. Who was the Frank Grillo character? Fuck yeah.

Frank Rillow. I can't believe Grillo didn't make Triple Frontier. By the way, see, that's what the movie needs. It needs. You're right about that. We need more Frank Grillo's in that movie and less like hunky handsoms. Can you imagine Grillo on the day where they were like, guess what? So, sorry, Frank.

As you know, you die first in this group and he would just be like, you're trying to tell me that I would get killed. Before these pretty boys. Original Tim Riggins. Yeah. I think that what he's holding out for is quadruple frontier. Yeah. Which is the inevitable sequel.

By the way, I'm in on that, too. Get me in on that. What else are you excited for? that's coming out next year. I was kind of thinking about this with the Avengers stuff and how little... Like, they don't even show

Thanos. Thanos? They show, like, his hand walking through like a wheat field or so, with the gauntlet on. Guys, I don't know why you're mad on this. I'm super into it.

I thought I was great. I'm not mad. I'm psyched. I'm totally curious. I think I feel about this trailer the way people felt about the, like,

Jason Statham spin-off Fast and Furious trailer. Oh, which is like... Huffin shot is the most anticipated movie for me. I don't know a thing about that. But for this, I'm like,

Hey, the friend, my friends. It'll be April soon. Like, that seemed fun. I was excited about that. No, I'm excited about it. You can do your Hobbs and Shaw thing. No, no, no. I'm excited for the Final Avengers.

I'm also just curious because I want to see how they put it to rest. Yeah. This whole, like, whatever this is, phase three or whatever. And because I do think it'll be interesting to loosen it up and see what they can do with different stuff. Not be so beholden to macro storytelling. From what I've heard, and again, I apologize, this is a light spoiler, but I've heard that at the end of this film, Thanos snaps his other finger, and banishes half the cast to TV.

To Disney Plus, streaming service. I heard that he's snapping at the end because he's in an old school duop group. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. Okay, so UCB 11 p.m., someone pitches that. Thanos in the doo-op group. Are you in or are you in or are you in? I'm 100% in.

You support this. Yep. It's a shot-on-a-n-a-style du-op group that Thanos is the main snapper, and half the audience is in and then out, and then in and then out. And every time he wants to start, just a gentle quartet.

Yep. Bababababu. Do you think that they have to have an Avengers replacement up and running in the next couple years? You mean like a franchise? Yeah, do the MCU need a team-up series going in parallel to like all the one-off movies? I wonder if they will start again

with smaller stakes and then build towards that. Yeah. And what that will look like. Because I do think they are building, they are building basically the second, like another event. The Avengers team that exists underneath the main Avengers team right now, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Dr. Strange. Spider-Man.

If they get Wolverine back, Wolverine, that is an actual Avengers lineup from later in the life of the event. There will be another Avengers movie. Okay. I'm sure of it, but it will be a different team. It will be a different team. And led by Captain Marvel, likely. Sure.

Although I don't know how that movie's going to bounce back from our withering criticism of its trailer last week. I think we really put a dent in it. Do you think, like, Ruffalo and Thor are going to stick around? listen to our pause. Like, this is serious. I can see them sticking around. I can see, I can see Ruffalo sticking around. Ruffalo just lost his backpack in New York, so I feel like... Did he tweet about it?

He went viral. He's like, get anyone find my Topo pack? Really? My friends and beautiful New Yorkers. I left a pack pictured here in a New York in a taxi cab. Help me find it. I imagine in that bag was, you know, just stacks of cash. Yeah, and scripts. Wild kids are like, I'm done.

Tons of Kenneth Lonergan content. He's just like, sit on. I will say I just saw Waverly Gallery in New York. Kenneth Onergan's new play. 84-year-old Elaine May is unreal in this play. It is just an exceptional performance. That's really great. How's Michael Serra?

He's good. He's great. Yeah, everybody's great. But Elaine May is doing, like, truly exceptional work. I keep buying tickets for plays before, like, real reviews come out because I get hyped on them, and then the reviews come out, and it's like... I don't like plays. Here's a...

I don't like plays. This is the content that makes this podcast. Are you just eating yogurt on the podcast? I'm starving. Like, why are you eating? You were in the fucking commissary for like an hour and a half. It's been a long day already, guys. We could have talked.

You didn't have to chime in. You could have swallowed, you fucking monster. You're just snacking on a parfa. I was trying to save you guys from yourselves. You're going down Play Alley. Play Alley. There's not enough Broadway content. Play Alley.

Is that next to Crime Alley where Batman's parents were shot by Joe Cool? Is that who it is? Kyle, Cut my mic. Tell me about plays. Discussed plates. I'm silencing you now. He's just going to snack on a part of a yogurt, granola, and fruit at the bottom.

But your mic is off. Don't even try. Would you like a bite? No, I don't want it. Kaya turn his mic off. Plays are boring and too long. You think so? That's my headline.

Too long. Hey guys, these plays are too long. My thing with plays is that they are too expensive to not. have like guarantees. Yeah. But once it's guaranteed, it's impossible to get tickets. Yeah. And then you have to hit the secondary market and you get into that triple frontier area

where you're really bartering a lot. Yeah. To go see. The TKTSS window as Columbia. My wife just bought to Kill a Mockingbird tickets. Bragg. And then they were, but there's been like. About being married or buying the tickets.

Yeah, we get it. You've got a wife and she can get you. And then I caught network tickets with the God Brian Cranston. And there's, there's been some mixed reviews on that too. Oh, I haven't seen. Okay. And I'm out a little bit of coin, and I'm stuck on... But you know what?

I'm not looking forward to those takes. I'm looking forward to what you hear. Not on this podcast, right? I want you guys to have that moment, those moments during the watch, where you guys talk just plays. Where you guys just get into dramaturgy. You guys break it down. They talk about that time in college when a bunch of friends just with nothing much, just a black box theater threw on Caucasian talk circle.

God damn it. I want to hear you guys talk about Tracy Letts. Let's Talk Let's. America's premier Tracy Let's podcast. It only talks about his stage work. And welcome back to Let's Talk Let's. We have a call.

Let's talk about his role on divorce. Sorry, no. Steppen will not talk about his work as an actor. Is there anything else generally we want to get to before we get to the shows? Yeah. What are we talking about? What's on your day planner? Nothing really.

I'm pretty Jack because next year, I feel like that this stuff goes in cycles. This is one thing I was thinking about today because we were talking about stuff that's coming on 2018. Oh, yeah. And I was like, all of my big homies are coming in next year

because we got another Star Wars movie. We got Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. We have Strider Things Season 3 coming, Triple Frontier. So, I mean, like, what else do I have to ask? That's your list. That's my fourth thing. That's your Mount Rush for 12 months.

2019? I'm worried about you, bro. I feel like your wife should be buying more tickets. Yeah. You sound honestly depressed. This is like, that statement is enough to have you involuntarily committed. We can put a hold on you for sure. What the fuck are you guys looking forward to?

Like, like White House chief of staff jockeying? Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah. What a wild card this weekend. Oh, boy. I wonder, I don't know what I'm looking forward. I'm trying to think what I'm actually looking forward to. Hmm.

Yeah. You're looking forward to them. I will say... Can I ask you real quick? Are you in the mule? I'm not in the mule. Fuck. Why?

You want to know if it's good? No, I just like, it just feels like a movie that you could have just popped up in. Oh, man. I wish. I wish. No, the next movie I will pop up in is John Wick 3. Which I am very much looking forward to. I was also going to say that.

Did you guys shoot that in South Africa? They might have. I did not. I did not. My stuff was all in New York. Because they do. They shot that movie for really like a... very long time.

Is Keigh? I'm going to die making those movies? I'm not going to lie to you. Like, I was concerned. Only because he is relentless. He is unbelievable. And the stuff they are asking of him is so wild. He is

just, like, super impressive to watch. Does he do a lot of his own stunt work? Yes. He does a tremendous amount of his own stunt work. Did you do your own stunt work? I cannot speak to anything like that. Did you meet Halliberry? I did. Nice person?

Very, oh, lovely. Lovely. Incredibly lovely. Does she want to come on our Tracy Letts podcast? Yeah, I asked her if she would be available for Let's Talk Letts. A Barry, Barry episode, special episode of Let's talk about Barry. It's Harry Barry talking August O'Sage County. It's Barry talks Barry.

It's her takes on the Bill Hader's show Barry. Guys, podcasts are easy. Let's talk, let's. We, listen, we could deliver this content to the ringer, but I feel like Earwolf might want to hear some of these. I'm just saying. market? I'm just saying it comes on right after you've got S-mail. Yeah, Sam,

that one's just for you. Sam on rom-coms. Okay, so I have a really bad year coming because I have nothing to look forward to except for a quitting to... Mandalorian. You're stoked for Mandelorian Island. Is that a 2019 release? I'm assuming. I think whenever they... They've already been shooting it for a while.

They got Nulte. They got the baby. They got Nolty. So that means is Graves canceled? Guys, can I ask a question? Is Graves Speaking of Albuquerque, another local production. Is Graves on A&E? I've never seen it. No, it's on like... Epic's Epic, baby.

Yeah. Epic. It's epic, I believe. All right. Good stuff. I'm going to tell Jason this off, Mike, during the break, but like, there could be a reunion. Yeah, there could be.

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Just visit ADT.com slash smart to learn more about how ADT can design and install a secure smart home just for you. All right, we're back on Let's talk, let's. We got Jason Manzukas here. We're going to deviate from the Great White Way. Stop talking about stopping the boards here. Are you a bug guy or a killer Joe? Oh, yeah. And we're going to talk a little bit about TV because Jason's, Jason's an avid television watcher.

Absolutely. He's got his likes and dislikes. I just crushed all of season two of Maisel this weekend. You crushed it in one weekend. Crush the whole thing in one weekend. Wow. Because, A, I knew I was coming here to talk to my boys and I want to talk only Maisel. And B, it is one of my, like, one of my top shows, like, that is actively still going right now.

I agree. No, we're not going to spoil the season because I haven't finished it. Okay. I'm asking you please don't spoil the season. She's a Mandalorian. What? Listen, I hope the Mandalorian pays as much attention to his children as Midge Mazzal pays to hers. I don't think she does.

That's my point. I feel like it's better for the drama if the Mandalorians like here. But wasn't that kind of the way of the 50s? She's like a 50s parent. Yeah, it's like, I don't know. People got shipped off to boarding school at a time. She's not a good parent. You think Mitch Maisel was a bad parent?

Yeah. She's kind of a shitty friend. Whoa. We're coming in super hot. Yeah, no, I don't think that's wrong. Yeah. There's a lot about, what I like about it is there's a bunch of moments that are, that are just kind of like, ooh, cringy because like, hey, it's not all about you, Midge.

The wedding. The wedding is, in specific, like, awful. Yeah. She's so hungry. And did you see that episode? No. Oh, okay. What are you talking about?

How dare you go. You're saying that she's a bad parent. Because she ignores her children. That you know that from the first eight episodes. I think she's very self-absorbed. Guys, wait. I want to be clear. Okay.

The show would be indescribably worse. If she was like, I'm actively trying to parent. Yeah, I'm fine with it. I just find it amusing. Yeah, no, it feels very much like madman parenting. Yes. Well, the thing with the measles, I've come to love this show. What a journey it's been for Chris since Thursday.

When Sour Puss Ryan over here. No, I was just trying to provide a counterbalance. Why start then? We've literally agreed for seven years. Why did you choose last Thursday To be like you can't have this nice thing It was my revenge for True Detective Fair

It was a long con Yeah True Detective's coming back too See I have so much to look forward to next year I thought that looked good But I'm nervous I'm getting Because that season two was

I feel I'll buy up all your stock I'll buy up all your true detective stock Guys Yeah Are you shorting True Detective? What a mastermind

Boiler Room Because the thing people might not know about you Yes is how much you love Amy Sherman Palladino. I am all in on Amy Sherman Palladino from Gilmore Girls, early Gilmore Girls. I just watched almost a full season of Gilmore Girls while I was home over Thanksgiving.

Just again. Just again, because I find it such comfort food. Yeah, and also, it's like, it's such, the dialogue is delivered at such a fast rate. If you rewatch, you can actually hear like a completely different show that you miss the first ever out. It's a great show, and I've said this before, I feel as though Amy Sherman Palladino should be spoken of in the same breath that we speak of Sorkin, Milch, David Chase, Matt Weiner, all of those showrunner, difficult men, that book that was written about that whole quote guys.

The autore kind of showrunners of the late 90s, early 2000s, I think Amy Sherman Palladino's voice is just as unique and just as strong, and her work is just as good from that era on. I mean, Bunhead's unsuccessful. but I think this show is like exceptional television writing. Bunheads. Bunheads is fine. Yeah, I kind of like there. Certainly not bad, and there's such, having done Bunheads makes so many of the kind of musical numbers in Maisel work. Yeah.

You know, because I feel like Bunheads was like the proving ground for all of that stuff to work out. And Maisel, I just think like just is every episode, home run, home run, home run. Do you think, so last week when Chris was... And Shaloob, guys. Shalooab's amazing. I'm like all in on Shaloo. Shaloo. a great year.

So the thing I was trying to articulate to Chris last week, now that I realized he was arguing in bad faith, was that the show in the second season, I feel like, is a little bit, in the beginning it felt a little confused between the delightful delightfulness that she brings, where there's musical numbers and there's Paris, and then, like, no, we're really telling a story here

about this woman's journey through her career and through this era. Sometimes those things felt in opposition to one another. Like, I wasn't sure which show they wanted to make. Ultimately, my feeling was kind of like what you were saying about how she's an autour, attour's gonna autour. This is what she does.

Yes. And if you take issue with the push-pull of delight versus plot, you're taking issue with the way that she makes television and it's sort of a, it's a sucker's game.

I think so. And this second season really, I think, I wonder if it's because they were given two-season order from the beginning. That's right. Like, it really allowed

for kind of very dense storytelling in season one to set this world up, because season two is, I'm not even sure how long of a time it takes place over, but like many, many, many, many months. Yeah. It, like, really has, like, a much bigger scope.

The whole thing takes place in over a year. You know, they celebrate the one-year anniversary of season one's, the events of the pilot within season two, and then go past it. So it's, like, a very long, you know, there's the stuff that's in Paris, there's the stuff that's in the Catskills. There's, there are these kind of arcs that have, you know, episodic feeling to them, but that are still telling this bigger story, which I really

loved. How do you feel about Joel? Joel's still tough for me. Joel's a tough one. Joel's an alcoholic, right? Not exactly, but like there's stuff. He's always crushing beers. He's always drinking. Joel is a cool hang. I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

I like Joel, but Joel like getting completely tonked. Like this is what I was going to bring up, was that Paladin does a lot of stuff where, for instance, Midge does things that are like objectively like bad behavior. Sure. Or Joel's drinking like 11 beers and shots in the middle of the day and then is like never

without a beer pretty much. It was a different era. And it's a different era. But I feel like one of the nice things about this show is it kind of will hint towards something, but ultimately it doesn't ever bring you down. You know what I mean? Like if there's like an awkward moment or if you know, Susie calls out midge on her privilege kind of in that moment in the diner and stuff like that.

But it never really deeply affects like their relationships. and so much of this show is about pleasure. You can tell it's all the things that bring Palladino pleasure, this music, this style of talking, these reference points, these historical figures, this kind of sociocultural moment. Like, the Catskill stuff is so deeply, like, romantic about, like, a time and a place in America. It's the Catskill stuff I loved, and then I loved juxtaposing it against the episode where Susie gets kind of kidnapped by the gangsters.

Yeah, that was great. And I loved that whole journey that she goes on with them. I thought was terrific. We've all had days like that in Queens. Oh, yeah. Gangsters take you to the Rockaways? Yeah. We talked about last week, I think, when we were talking about this,

we were discussing whether or not this felt like a second season of a show that was doing season five stuff already or whether it was a show that knew we got to do five seasons. So let's like hang out with Joel in this factory for basically half an episode. Yeah. What do you think of that? I think they are. they're taking the opportunity to be like, oh, let's do three episodes in the Catskills. We'll still keep our stuff. We'll still keep our like general storylines happening. But let's like have a little

bit of a break. Let's be with new people in a new place and not feel beholden or claustrophobic to just like super serialized storytelling. Yeah. Like broaden it out a little. I thought that was great. I do feel like this show, I love it. I'm so happy that it exists. I do feel like it's kind of a miracle that not only it exists, but that it's thriving, because it definitely snuck in under the wire of Amazon's old business model of like, well, this seems fun, okay. Yeah. And then it got the two-season pickup, it got the Emmy nominations, and then also it debuted right at a time when the previous leadership structure at Amazon was vacating their positions

due to bad behavior. So the fact that it is now seems set for a long run, because it has connected with people who talk about it on podcasts, as well as the voters, the Golden Quarkey. clubs and the Emmys, it seems like it's going to be here. I say this only to say that I don't want to take it for granted because it's sort of amazing that it exists. All right, so that's one show that you unabashedly love. Yes.

Let's talk about a show that you have maybe slightly more complicated feelings about. Let's talk about bodyguard. Oh, bodyguard. So you didn't actually, you didn't finish it, right? No, but I am so excited. How much does you watch and how much can we talk about? You can talk about as much as you want. Did you get through three?

No. I'm going to sit here and spoon up my delicious parfait and listen to my two friends talk about a show I will never watch. I really liked it. I really liked it. Yeah. We're talking about Bodyguard on Netflix. It is a, it's Rob Stark, political kind of spy craft kind of terrorism thriller.

Yeah. Kind of like prestige 24. It's like a big show. Yeah. In the UK. Huge. Like their biggest show. The finale I think was like the most viewed thing.

It's like their match. Yeah, yeah. Like the most viewed finale ever. British people too. their mash is one guy going, Vicky! I'm sorry! I'm sorry, Vic!

I'm sorry, Vic! It's a dead man switch! He really does say that. He's got a fucking bombs strapped to me. It's a dead man switch. Oh, sorry. Is there a soundboard, like, where we could just play... Just drops?

He's not that. He's not that. Considering he has a bomb strap to his body, he's pretty much like, I'm sad. Here's what I think. I thought this show was fan fucking-tastic until the final episode. Oh. I thought the final episode was a, was unsatisfying for me.

Because of the twist? Because of the twist. Yeah, okay. Because of the, because there were like a couple of moves that were made that did not add up. Yes. And I understand they were made in order to obfuscate what was really going on. Otherwise, you would have figured it out too easily. Yeah, yeah.

But as a result, that was the one episode that I was like, wait, why is he doing this or why is he doing that? He makes a couple of moves that he just, in previous episodes, would have been smart enough to not make. Right. And I know he's getting desperate and blah, blah, blah. But it just didn't seem exactly right. He uses, like, I can't trust anybody basically is an excuse for doing a lot of stupid shit where somebody is like clearly trying to help him and he's just like, I can't tell you this.

That's the attitude I've brought to my experiences in Hollywood this far as well. It's like dead, man. And I did, my thumb is getting so tired. The guy introduced himself to me as my line producer. I was like, fuck out of here. I don't trust anyone. I think that this show is essentially two shows. It's the show up until spoiler alert.

Oh, yeah, big time, there are a lot of spoilers. Six episodes. We'll do spoilers. There's only six episodes. Right. But even if we don't spoil it, I feel like this is useful content, servicing for the listeners who may have heard air our lukewarm mixed one mention of the show. I like it.

It is very good. Yeah. I think it is very good. It has that kind of modern BBC house style that now exists. The color palette is the same as Sherlock, the tilt-shifted, kind of blurry focus, pulled focus. Collateral is like that. Yes, exactly. The streets of London.

There's a lot of that going on that I don't love. But I thought it was such a well, the episodes are so good at maintaining the 10. I thought that was really great. And it's kind of a real accomplishment in casting because the two main characters, the Keeley Haas character who plays the Home Secretary who's Angling to become Prime Minister. So good.

And Rob Stark. What's his real name? Yeah, Rob Stark. Richard Madden. Richard Madden's character. It's Rob Stark. They like legitimately have chemistry. They are great.

They are like really... No, he's the king of the north to her. You know what I'm talking about it. The Lannis just send their regards. Wasn't someone just telling me, Was this you, Chris, that Kit Harrington is in a play? He's in True West in London right now. So here's my question.

I didn't buy tickets for that. I heard he's doing it alone. Which is the characters every night. What if, I'm just throwing this out here as hypothetical for 2019, Chris will have a lot of time to consider it. One man, John Snow, True West. What if these actors from Game of Thrones, who I think due to years of cultural experience, we've all been like, boy, they were good in these parts, but good luck fellas and ladies.

What if they're all actually good? What if Game of Thrones is like the launching pad for major... Oh, what if Game of Thrones winds up being a footnote in Richard Madden's career? Or Kit Harrington? Or if one of those fucking guys gets James Bond, it might be the case. What if they're all actually really good? Could be. I thought he was great.

Richard Madden. I thought was absolutely true, especially because in like the first three episodes, he is like super stoic and giving away so little. Yeah. Like he is just this kind of ex-military kind of PTSD. like really shut down emotionally. And unlike Joel from Mrs. Maisel, gets trashed on like two ciders.

That's right. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, true. I thought it was really good. It just kind of like I felt like it landed not great for me. Now I'm just thinking about Joel from Mrs. Maisel being the bodyguard. Oh, or like if it was like, triple what?

Triple frontier. Triple frontier. With Joel Mazel? With Joel Maisel. It was just like, we're going to need more fabric. Dad, we need an accountant in here. I can't keep following the treasure maps. I'm all in, by the way, on the parents in that show.

Both of... Kevin Pollock, yeah. Shalub, both of Midges' parents and... Shalub, Marin Hinkle, Kevin Pollock. Thank you. I can't believe, like, we spent, like, a 10 minutes concern trolling, whether a movie with Ben Affleck and Oscar Isaac and Charlie Hunnam was, like,

appealing. And then we're like, the thing is that Shalub and Pollock are really at the top. God. Like, when there is a show that is made specifically for me and my previous generations of my family. Oh, yeah. Like, and I feel like, well, this is normal. Yeah. This is where everyone should.

But you're like, are you sure Garrett Headland needed to be in this movie? Are you sure we want to see him in a helicopter with a right hole to his shoulder? Can we also put Boyd Holbrook in? No, we've got Garrett. What do you mean? I'll show you pictures later. It did. I did think that's who that was.

Did you ever wind up seeing the predator? No. Okay. Because that is. Because I'm like all in on Shane Black. Yeah. I really was. I heard.

enough things that were bummed me out about it I was like, I don't think it would be a really good I don't know, do you guys, so if you guys ever did how did this get made with that, that would be very funny. Okay, all right. It's pretty wild. I'm going to watch it anyway. Yeah, I know. Are you asking for an invite for that show? No, I'm just I mean, I would love to call it. I'm just saying,

it's, it's, do you guys have yogurt where you record? Oh, God, you're so gross. Just like wet mouth eating on air. So, Maisel and Bodyguard, what else? What else got caught your house? Bodyguard. I'm season two of Mike Judges Tales from the Tour Bus on Cinemax, I think.

I'd like to say something like that. Does it pick up for those channels? Does it pick up or the action from season one left off? It doesn't. It's a whole new season. If you're not familiar with this show, it's fucking awesome. It is like an animated. All it is is a Talking Heads show where people tell stories, the first season was all

about country music. So it was people telling all these great old stories of country music, but then they animate the story so you get to see visually something that they're talking about. And so this season is all funk. So every episode is like one episode is Poozy Collins. One episode is Parliament Funkadelic. Oh, this sounds good. One episode, two episodes are James Brown.

I thought it was like comedians laughing about being comedians. No, no, no. This is. There's podcasting for that, sir. There is, yes, exactly. No, season one was all like. There's lots of Jerry Seinfeld's cars where that can happen. By the way, love that show.

11 minute run time. Did you listen to Cocaine and Rhinestones, the podcast by any chance? I did, yeah, yeah. It feels like the country music episodes felt a little bit like that, but they're shorter and not as well research. They're real... Cocaine and Rhinestones is exceptional, I think, one of my favorite things of the year.

My two favorite things of this last year, cocaine and rhinestones, and I'm not even kidding, binge mode of Harry Potter. Which I have listened to every episode of multiple times. I am... I would say Mal and Jason are the two people I've listened to the most this year. I think if you took

cumulatively the last two and a half years with Thrones... Oh yeah, I listen to every episode of that, too. Yeah. It's an... It's like a real thing. Yeah. They are now people that I, even though I have met them, I am like, I feel the way about them that I believe people feel about me and my podcast.

Like, I feel like I know them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel like, oh, these are my friends. That's awesome. It's just not how I feel about you guys, even though I've listened to years. I've listened to years of this nonsense. I feel like this is the moment you break up with this.

Oh, if they would have me, I would bail on you guys so hard. We're just going to play out the string. I mean, if I can get a co-hosting gig on, you've got S-mail. I'm on that. I've got some draft paperwork. I'll show you after the show. There was another thing you mentioned from this year that I know nothing about, but I thought you could make a case for it. Yellowstone.

Oh, fuck, yeah. I thought Yellowstone was great. Although, full disclosure, I didn't finish Yellowstone. Now that you mentioned, I still have two episodes of Yellowstone left. saving it for Christmas morning. I thought Yellowstone is the... It's at the table for this. Taylor Sheridan scripted.

Taylor Sheridan directed a bunch of them. I don't think he did all of them. I think he did he did he? Yeah. Okay, he might have done all of them. And he's the Kevin Costner contemporary Western on Paramount, where Costner is like fucking out there in Montana, like big sky country, just like a rancher who's like a bad, it's like a, it is a contemporary western

in which it is the, he is like this, it's like a, it's like a rancher who is like a bad, it's He said versus the government versus the Native American reservation has elected a new leader, and he's kind of going to war with cross. It's like a triple frontier, if you will. It really is all of the machinations, the behind-the-scenes machinations of this kind of war between all of these kind of governing bodies of the old boys and like the younger generation. It's like succession, but 150% less funny, but with 150% more horses. Yes.

Okay. And Costner is just like chewing the scenery. He's so good. West Bentley's on this, right? Yes, yes. We've got Bentley. We've got Kelly O'Reilly. Kelly Riley, yeah.

Kelly Riley, sorry, who's fantastic as his daughter. West Bentley. And there's another son, too, who I forget, who plays that son. Anyway, it's great. Cole Houser. We've got Cole Houser. This is what I like about the show. Houser in the house.

Having not seen it. Full Houser? Everyone, your name. We're going to do that podcast too. The spin-off. That's the rewatchables, but only Cole Houser movies. Houser of Carbs. Every single person you named, I think that if you had said,

name the cast of a show called Yellowstone. Yeah. I think I would have gotten there. I like it when shows cast themselves. I think, I mean that wholeheartedly. I think that's fantastic. It's funny because sometimes people, I'd not get typecast, but Kelly Riley is, I feel like Kelly Riley has spent three years

with a lot of eye makeup on wandering around houses. on television. And just kind of like drinking and then being like I'm going to do something about all this. And then she does. She sounds like a podcaster. Yeah, right.

That's a perfect setup. That's just because all the eye makeup. Yes, that's right. Thank you for noticing. So Yellowstone, anything else that you were hyped up about this year? What else did I like this year? What would the year like for you?

Because it felt like you were traveling and working a lot. I was working a lot. I was traveling a lot. I'm trying to think what, if there was anything else that I got really down the road on. It was, those were the Shows, I mean, Atlanta this season was terrific. I watched all of Westworld

did not like it. Really, like, had... Do you think you will watch the third season? I think I'm going to have to. Right. I got to see what Pinkman's doing. Because, you know, Aaron Paul's on it now. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Aaron Paul, just by laying in the cut,

now is on West World and gets a Pinkman movie. Yeah, and it's still doing great. Oh, Bojack this season. And BoJack, yeah. Bojack, I thought this season was great. I find there are those shows that I deeply am comforted by that I don't need to talk about, that I don't need to, like, advocate for. But, like, you know, those would be Bob's Burgers, which I think is just exceptional, like, wonderful television, and Great British Bake Off.

Yeah. Oh, and Nailed It. And I, full disclosure, I am on an episode of the television show, Nailed It on Netflix, which I think is one of the funniest shows, like, low-key on television. Nicole Beyer being mostly the case of what it's funny. I mean, pitching me on Nailed It Yesterday. Mostly someone was telling me that it is a great thing to turn on to distract children.

Yes, I was going to say your kids will like it. Because it's baking, though. Yes. I have a hard... It's baking fails. Okay. See, I like... My whole brand has been, I like Top Chef

because it's not baking and it's about success. Don't you like baking? I'm not... because I don't like sweets. I'm not interesting. Also, baking is like math. There's like a recipe. You can't like improvise it. Oh, no. You got to watch Nail that.

Shit's going to collapse. You're going to really like... Oh, yeah. It's like the whole show is all about people, not being good. Okay. And that's kind of the point. Okay.

It's very funny. It's very silly, is really what it is. And it's fun. It's a good watch. What was the best Jason? Big Mouth Season 2, which I'm also on. That's a good segue. Which I also thought was really funny.

What is, according to Jason Manzukas, what was the best Jason Manzuccas? Did you watch Ozark season 2? I did not. Full disclosure, Chris Ryan. I did not finish Ozark season one. Oh, man. You're telling you, I watched that first clutch of episodes for you, and then I abandoned it. Okay.

Before your 40th birthday, which was very important. But that was really nice of you, yeah. It's true. You did for his birthday? I did. That was very nice. So, according to Jason Manzukas, what was the best Jason Manzuka's performance of 20? Oh, wow.

So interesting. Ask an expert. Thank you. I mean, we've got, let's see, we've got Big Mouse season two. We've got... I thought you were going to open up your IMDB page. Let me look at my IMDB page. I had, like, a very funny...

two lines in wreck at Ralph Ralph 2, Ralph breaks the intern. Oh, I'm not too. Where they made a cartoon character look like me, which I very much enjoyed. What was the name of the character? Hey, Nong man. There it is.

Which is a comedy bang bang joke. Yes, it is. No, there was a bunch of fun stuff that I did this year that I'm pretty, that I was pretty stoked by. Yeah. Did you, I'm going to bring a full circle here? And Long Dumb Road.

Well, the thing about Long Dumb Road that I think people should check out. The aforementioned Long Dumb Road, available once again on video on demand. Right now, you could be watching it. I hope you are. I hope you bought it. There are elements check off to it later.

You goddamn creeps. There's aspects of that character that I recognize from your comedy. Sure. But you got to play, this wasn't a bit. You got to play a full character from beginning. No, I get to have more layers. You got to stretch out.

Yeah. I got to do more fun like character stuff. Not just kind of pop in for a couple of funny scenes and be outrageous. although there is certainly some of that. No, it was fun to actually have to track something of an arc, which I don't normally have to do. And it was really fun.

And also, like, challenging and weird and interesting. And I was very grateful that Tony Revely is a very good, like, actor, who I was very helpful in terms of, like, actor stuff, you know, which was great. It was pretty wild. Not to put you on the spot, but your secret role in John Wick 3, which you can't talk about. The TikTok man. Is it more similar to Reckett Ralph 2 or The Long Dumb Road? Oh, it's not similar to either of those.

Okay. It's not similar to Raffy? Oh, in that it's animated. My character, oh, I shouldn't have said that. Oh, I shouldn't have said that. My character is animated, though. Well, that's what we're looking for to. I'm playing, okay, so I will say I'm playing in this movie, you know, he has a dog in the previous movie.

In this movie, he has an animated parrot that follows him everywhere he goes. but the parrot, you know, doesn't have any volume control, so that's how the bad guys. And he's like, whenever he's like, I got to stay really quiet. I'm going to kill the parrot's like, okay. John Wick is here. Oh, man, we're going to wrap it up there. That's where we're wrapping it. Yeah, fuck yeah.

The animated parrot, did you have other stuff you wanted to hit? Oh, man, I'm trying to think. No, I just don't want it ever to be over, guys. You're always welcome. Always having a great time. Always welcome. And you can go get another parfay. I'm starving.

Double parfait? That's who I am now. I'm not proud. Jason Manzukas, thanks. Thanks, buddy. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. Happy new year.

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