The Watch - Starring Jason Mantzoukas and Nick Kroll (Ep. 189)

Episode Date: September 28, 2017

The Ringer’s Andy Greenwald is joined by the very funny Jason Mantzoukas and Nick Kroll to discuss their friendship (10:00), dealing with puberty, their new animated Netflix show ‘Big Mouth’ and the benefits of comedic collaboration (25:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's just tooling around the world somewhere, so I'm having fun without him. Really fun show today, by the way, and Chris was missed and mocked by my guests. Nick Kroll and Jason Manzukas. These guys are very funny. Longtime listeners of the Watch know that Jason Manzukas is essentially a third host of show at this point, and we are always thrilled to have him. This time he brought along his buddy Nick Kroll, who has been on the show before, but it was great to have them together. Let me be clear about something. There is hurting cats and there is doing a podcast interview with

improvisers. I did my best guys, but as you'll hear, they basically made me weep because they are so funny. I think I held the line. I did manage to get them to talk a little bit about the reason they were here, which was to promote their new animated series Big Mouth, which premieres on Netflix on Friday, on September 29th. Big Mouth is a series created by Nick, by his best friend from childhood, Andrew Goldberg, who's a veteran of family guy, along with Mark Levin and Jennifer Flackett, and it is an animated comedy about puberty. And it is so filthy and so funny. And yet somehow, despite the images of dunking penises, which that really happens, it is very tender underneath it and very sweet and get some things about growing up exactly right, even

as the things that it says can be exactly wrong. Also, an incredible cast on the show. Nick voices, Nick, that's kind of a stretch for him. Jason Manzoukas voices a character named Jay, but we've also got John Malaney, Maya Rudolph, Jordan Peel as the ghost of Duke Ellington, by the way. So obviously, a performance stretch there. Fred Armisen, Jenny Slate, Jesse Klein. I loved watching the show. I would recommend watching the show with headphones on if you live in a home with children. But it's a terrific comedy. It's on Netflix. Check it out.

This is, I don't even know what more to say. I did my best. Nick and Jason are brilliant. They're incredibly kind and generous. And this was a lot of fun to do. So let's get into it. This is me trying to keep it together, talking to Nick Kroll and Jason Manzukas of Big Mouth. I am joined by two able co-hosts, comrades, guests.

If we're all co-hosts, this is going to be chaos. And by the way, you know that Jason has a history of trying to co-host podcast. Do you know what he's, he's barnacling this one for like nine months straight? You are a podcast barnacle. Oh, yeah. And by the way, observe that I have wormed my way in here when Chris Ryan is not here. I perceive him to be the weakest link. I have separated he and Andy and I have now permanently introduced myself as the co-host.

My guest today is. Nick Kroll. This is what I was most afraid of. He's got a new TV show coming out on Netflix. It's called Big Mouth Nick. Andy and I would love to hear about this new show. Thanks, Jason. All of it now focus over in it.

That's fine. It's fine, really. I did want to begin. We were going to talk about Big Mouth on Netflix. Sure. I look forward to it. Thank you. I did want to begin with a personal anecdote because this is still briefly my show.

And it was just that a couple weeks ago I was at the Burbank Airport. Congrats. With my family. Oh, yeah. I had a moment away from them right before our arduous flight up to Oakland, CA. And I, in my rare moment of silence and reflection, I made it over to Pete's coffee, where I purchased a macho latte, the Cadillac of ice beverages, was inserting a straw and really just enjoying my rare moment of solitude.

And when I turned around, I saw your two faces, each of you giving me full double barrels of middle fingers. It was disruptive. It was a little rude. It was a little invasive. It was a four noon on a Saturday. I believe you said that I got blasted by the fingerboards. Now, I'm honored. Yeah.

You should be. You're one of many, but few. Yeah. We're all about disruption. Yeah. That is what we're here to do. Which is why we were going up to Northern California. Yeah, because we're tech bros.

You know, we're looking for angel investors to invest in the finger bros. Yeah. You look for industries right for disruption, such as podcast. Yes. Oh, yeah. We want to be, we've watched three episodes a season of Silicon Valley. Yeah. And we are taking the lessons we've learned there. We think we get it. Yeah, early on, the lessons, everything works out. They become successful very easily. Yeah. But then they don't become successful. But, and I'm sorry to flip it on you, then it works again. Yeah. Right. Well, that's what we're hoping with the finger bros.

And then she's not the president anymore. Right. Exactly. Yes. Correct. Talk to me about the, are the finger, the finger bros? The finger boys? Finger boys? Finger boys? I don't know. Finger bros. Yeah.

This is just Saturday. This is just Saturday. Yeah, this is before noon on a Saturday. The Burbank to Oakland, Burbank to Oakland and Oakland to Burbank. It's a flight we take every Saturday. Yeah, it's, I have to see our son and daughter who live in the Bay Area. Our son is a junior. Well, he was at Stanford.

Is he Palo Alto? Yeah. Yeah. He's no longer there. He was on the swim team. Yeah. It's beautiful. He got in some trouble.

What I wanted to speak to, and I think we are already demonstrating it, is that you guys have a very tender and special relationship. Yeah. And I'd like to probe it. Our daughter is a violin player. And she's a wonderful musician. Shelby? She's a crippling stage fright. So the only time we hear her play is when we sneak into the house while she's practicing.

And we recorded that on our voice memo. share an iPhone. And we recorded that. And we sent that up to the Berkeley School of Music, which we later find out is just a school for music in Berkeley, California. Right. Not the not the one with two E's in Boston. No. Correct. That's a, that's a cool twist. So Shelby's living in Berkeley. Because we, here we are, I thought she was going to be the next, you know, violin prodigy. Yeah. No. You know. She's more of a violin altavista. Oh. Wow. Boom. No, no, that was good.

The math on that is sound. Yeah, it's pretty good. It checks out. Do you guys want to take a beat? I know you're drinking at the same moment. Exhausted. Already exhausted. When was the first time you fingerboid together? Because what I wanted to say, all violin prodigies aside, but I wanted to ask Jeeves.

No? That works. That's great. The mouth is right. The mouth is up. Was, when did you guys first realize you played such a song? beautiful music together, metaphorically speaking, because here's the thing. You guys are both doing voices in Big Mouth, and we are going to talk about it, I promise. You were going up to, in addition to seeing your family, you were performing the Outside Lands Festival. As I said to Jason afterwards,

it seems like you guys have figured it out. You were just taking a weekend trip up to the beautiful Bay Area. You got to have some nice dinner, do some comedy. I know from one of your Instagram feeds, I won't say which one, Mr. Social Media over here. Right. And you've even vacation together. Sure. So tell me, tell me your story. What's going on? Be honest. Well, when you get into your late 30s and early 40s and you don't have a family, right? Yeah. You have to create, create one out of, uh, the other lost toys that have not found a box to live in. Yeah. Right. Beautiful. Sad. It's like sad, but beautiful. Yeah. It's like, have you seen the movie Toy Story? Yeah. I'm not familiar. I've seen Toy Story 2, is it related? Okay. Well, it's like that if it's,

had sex with wedding crashers. Okay. We are pitching this. So please, everybody would be cool about this. Don't like take this out. Yeah. Don't take this yet. Guys, don't steal this.

Please, it is a lot like Toy Story, had sex with wedding crashes in that it is about toys, but it's also about sex. There was a moment, and I've told Jason this, that on that, we were on the same flight. You guys were, I think, we were exit row living because you know how to do it. We live that business.

select Southwest flight. It was a statement. There was a moment. I'm comfortable throwing that extra $65 around for that extra inch and a half of space. You look comfortable. But you also look comfortable because, as you said, you were there with another friend. You were going to go perform comedy. I was a, I saw you only once during the flight when I raced up to the front to change a baby whose diaper had just exploded. And I was having like a full apatovian like what have I done at the age of 40 moment. Did it take you two and a half hours to go? get to the front of the plane?

It's dead. I love you, Jed. That was the moment. I reached the front of the plane, and the woman said, I'm sorry, sir, we've entered our final descent, and I held the baby to her like a talisman, and she looked me in the eye, and she said, you have three minutes. Wow. And it was actually a proud moment for me.

She probably had children herself to understand what that was. I think she's just judged people with children for a long time. Yes. And I realized at that moment, I looked at all, I looked at you both yearningly. You seem to have figured it out. So that's the question for us. You're also missing, like, it was not nearly two hours later. I was changing Nick backstage at the show because his diaper had exploded.

He was just on a slightly different timeline. It's less cute. Yes. Oh, it's much less cute. With an adult man. I don't know. It's pretty cute when I do it. It's cute, but he, you know, he just in the mood.

Because I'll cry because it's red. There's a rash. Yeah. And then, but once I'm all cleaned up, once I'm all cleaned up, I look up at him and I start to giggle and smile a little bit. Oh, that is similar, actually. Yeah, it's pretty similar. Because that's how they get you.

They keep smiling. Well, and I never want to take a bath. Sure. But then once I've taken the bath and I come downstairs. My putty pajamas. I come downstairs and I seem so happy. This is really nice. It seems like you guys have figured it out.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who would be caring for you, Nick, if Jason wasn't? Oh, uh... Does it take a village? Well, we were with Seth Morris, our buddy we were traveling with. He would maybe take a... care of me. I don't know. Who do you think, uh, I wonder if I, I, would I be taking care of you? Would you be taking care of me? I don't know. I don't know. I think it would depend on what we're

talking about. Yes, yes. Depend about what we're talking about. We could do, we could each fulfill those roles. Yeah, because Jason is deeply OCD. Yeah. And so the idea of cleaning another human shit that isn't your child, I assume with your child you could clean. In this fantasy, though, I would assume you are my child. Yeah. To be clear, I thought that was the bit. The bit wasn't that you were his adult friend. I thought the bit you were his child. If in that moment Andy had been walking up the aisle handed me his child with a diaper

full of nonsense, I'd be like pass. Yeah. Like our friendship can be over now. Can I just say it would be a weird wrinkle to our relationship. By the way, the Finger Boys has, we've launched and we have raised over $150 million since we started. And we're now starting a new company called diaper full of nonsense. And if you're interested in being like...

Right here on the Bringer Network. Yeah. Did you say Bringer Network? I'm sorry. The Finger Boys have just bought the Ringer and we're calling it the Bringer Network. Welcome to the Bringer Network. And why didn't we name it the Finger Network? Tell me.

That's a great question. You guys don't believe in market testing. We do not. No. Here's what we fundamentally believe. Yeah. The public is dumb. Yes.

They know nothing. Because we've started macro dosing. We have realized that we've begin to see much clearer. In terms of the societal acceptance of LSD, macro dosing does not get the press. No, it doesn't. It's not a great point, giant talking lobster. It's about to.

Let's bring it back. Yeah. Our guru Tim Ferriss is advocating that we do as much LSD as possible. We're on an all-beef jerky diet. It's beef jerky. It's me. Kroll. Yeah.

Ferris and Dan Bilsarian and we're out there getting shit done. Yeah. So we have what we are, we're on a semi-automatic. Go. Sembi-automatic from 8 in the morning until 12 noon. And then it's half the day is structured. And then it's a beef jerky from 12. You know what was nice about that?

And I want to give a note to Jason on this. Please do. As he began to say the beef jerky diet, Nick paused and looked in my eye to see if I was still with him. Oh, yeah. And I don't know if that was an old improv trick or just kindness. No, it's all... I did not feel steamrolled by it.

I looked and I said, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is fine. Oh, yeah. It's a subtle communication. Is that what it's about? Well, and to look in your tiny lobster eyes. Which you're not tiny because of how huge you are.

I want to watch your claws work that computer as what's going on for me. But you can't, you can hear it. It's like a... Click, click, click, click, click. Oh, we're having fun. And then it's a Google. search. It just says, am I a lobster?

So many question marks. So many question marks. So how big you are. Did we get any feedback on that? Okay. So, yes. So, sorry. Well, you can get feedback on us.

Oftentimes I'm very happy to not have children. And then there are oftentimes I'm not, I'm deeply unhappy and feel as though I'm missing my opportunity at like a fully formed life. That's a turn. And I feel very similar. I feel very much like, like, I think our lives. are pretty terrific. We get to run around and do shows and be in very cool places, doing cool stuff. But I definitely feel the absence of, you know, having a family or coming home to

people being there or having there be people for whom all of these successes can be shared or all of these experiences can be, you know, improved upon. Yeah. Well, I think the worst scenario would be to not do the experiences because you were busy hunting down someone to live in your home. Sure. You know what I mean? At least you are at least you're dead. taking advantage of those things. You're right, it is a hunt. It is a hunt. Like a bloodline.

And the most dangerous game. If you bring a crossbow out to a box. Sure. People do not, you know. Well, it's Los Angeles. Yeah, it's L.A. Classic L.A. If you were any other town, it would be fine.

But this is an industry town and they frown on it. It's an industry town and everyone's fake. Yeah. Right? Yep. Because we call it like we see it. Yeah. I feel like people in all industries are fake, by the way.

Okay, let's do it. Do you know what I mean? Like L. L. and show business gets a real serious route for me, like, everyone's fake and da-da-da-da. I feel like when you talk to anybody about their work, half the people they work with they think are shitty liars and fake and manipulative. Right.

But at least we're honest about it. I guess so. I think that's, I don't think it has anything to do with, like, the professions that people are in as much as most human beings are fake-ass weirdos. Right? True. Fake-ass weirdos, which, by the way. This is the new podcast network that we're starting off of the bringer.

It's hard to keep abreast of the changes around here. But the tech industry is like that. But that's out of it. This is the world we're living in. You know what I mean? That's why we're here to disrupt. CISO's gone. RIP.

You've just got to know it. You've got to fill that gap. Fill in gaps. We're here to disrupt resistance. Let's, it's about time because I'm a little sick of it. Animation. Yes. Animation.

Let's talk about it. Go. I have many questions about Big Mouth. Yes. But I'm going to ask one that I believe is an effective segue from what we've been doing here on The Bringer. Am I up to date? Yep, yes.

So far so good. By the way, it's just effective subway. That is our umbrella company. This is one of our podcasts on the fake-ass weirdos network. Got it. Brought to you by CISO, which is back. Which is back now. Congratulations.

And Bonobos, guys. We've got to get the bonobos plug in. I don't want to speak for the audience, but I believe they're probably figuring out that you guys like to have, you like to have fun. Sure. You like to come up with some stuff on the spot and roll with it. We love making ups and goose.

Is animation allow that or not? And to what degree? Because since when I saw you, you talked about your only frustration with Big Mouth was that it takes a while to actually animate the thing, right? You can't just, you guys are making stuff, you're doing stuff. In terms of the creative process, and I should, you know, we do a little litany of the people now. You have an incredible group of people that you've gathered together to be part of the show, Jordan Peel, Jesse Klein, Jenny Slate, Fred Armisen, Maya Rudolph.

Yes. Any other people that you, well, I met both of you. I was the Usteadis. John Malaney. John Malaney. I don't know if you've heard of him. He's a stand-up comedian. You've been very, very helpful to him in his career.

You've really brought him along. Yeah. You get them all together. I'm sure you have some lulls together. How loose is the process of actually recording? Can they just draw to your bits? Well, it's honestly, what I love about it, animation is it incorporates all of it. So it's a very laborious process in that there are many

stages to it. But because there are so many stages to it, like from, we obviously go and write the scripts and all of our voice actors, John and Jesse were in the room a good amount. But Jason and Jenny and Maya and everybody came in and talked with our writers and to help inform and figure out the characters. And obviously Jason and I are buddies. So after table, we talk through stuff. But we, so there are many stages of goof around to come to then create the story that we then, uh,

create a, then we go and record it. And at that point, we get to improvise, um, in the booth and, and, and,

and then that gets cut into a radio play that we then create an animatic off of. And, and this is the boring long answer, but it, meaning it, and then there's a rewrite at the animatic stage. And then you,

it goes away for four months and it comes back. And at every stage, there's a chance to sort of fuck around and fix things and fine tune the fuck around. And I think that's how it's both an incredibly laborious process, but also an incredibly free process where anything can happen where we can improvise a moment that has nothing to do with the script that then just becomes integrated into the stages of production. Was it in that way of thinking about it, I'm trying to imagine in the scale of like how creatively free you feel compared to doing something on, say, Kroll Show.

something that you guys did together on Kroll Show, where you're limited by, I guess, sets or the time you have in front of the cameras. In animation, you can literally depict anything. You can have the Statue of Liberty come to life as a chain smoking, aggrieved French woman. I'm going to keep spoilers to a minimum, but it's a juicy one.

It is a good one. Was that a learning process? To be like, oh, no, we really can do anything. We can have the Ghost of Antonin and Scalia duet with Freddie Mercury. We can do that. And, you know, no one's apparently going to say now. Yes.

Well, that's the beauty of Netflix. And the reason Jason isn't answering is because it's my show that he's a nobody on. One of the reasons... I'm like a zero. We have cameras on... And he told me, when we go out there, you talk as much as you want,

but when big mouth starts, you shut your mouth. This is my show. And I write the words that you say. Because everything up until now, Nicky wrote my butt caviar. I'm a little baby. He looked wistful, is what he looked,

as you were talking about the creative process. It was a... It is... Yes, anything can happen, but also it is so staged. There are character designs built at every stage. So, like, we, every episode, we try to incorporate, like, what are some crazy things that you can only do in animation? So the episode you're talking about is the second episode. Jesse Klein's character, Jesse, gets her period in the Statue of Liberty for the first time on a class trip, which actually happened to a friend of ours.

To be clear, for the first time ever, not for the first time inside the Statue of Liberty. I knew as I was conjugating that sense, I was doing a poor job. You were close. But, yes, for the first time ever, which really happened to our friend, Liz, the only artistic license we took is that we put her in white shorts. Yeah. So, and from that point on, we're then like, well, what are some fun animation things that we can do?

And so it's going to be the Statue of Liberty as an agree Frenchwoman that there's, there might be a tampon that looks maybe allegedly like Michael Stipe, singing a song called Everybody Bleeds. Yeah. That might sound somewhat like. Right. Everybody hurts. We then could call Amy Mann and have her record a suitably downbeat cover of said songs. There's a lot of yes and thing here.

This is exciting. It builds. And there's like big long-form bits like that that can happen and like heightened to absurdity in a way that only animation allows. But I do feel like, and then there's also the opportunity for us because they do do a good job of putting everybody in the booth to find jokes and bits in that room. that themselves can become whole other things. That animation, because there are extra stages in animation, like, you know, if you shoot a show, you've got that day's footage to work with and edit with, and that's it.

You know, but animation, you can keep, you know, like, each time they come back and are able to record more, whether it's after the animatic or wherever, you can go in and substantially change stuff, if need be, to chase down other jokes or other stuff. But also, I wouldn't want to undervalue the idea of you're saying of you all in the booth together, because Nick, when we've spoken before, you talked about the benefits of doing comedy with your friends. You have the Rolodex of people you call you like to work together.

You know each other. And I would imagine in this circumstance, you've not only hired wonderful people to work with you, but people you know well. You have worked with before. And I wonder how much that not only helps the comedy, but, and I don't want to turn the volume, turn the dial down a little bit. But there's a little heart to the show. Oh, yeah. There is a kindness to it. There's respect to people's lives and growing up.

and their emotions in a way that helps. I mean, it's a little tender at times, which I appreciate it. I mean, it's a very filthy show. It's so dirty. It's so dirty. But it's also, I believe, very, very tender. And because that's what Adelaide's, the show is based on me and my best friend, Andrew Goldberg from childhood.

And we became best friends in, like, middle school and really formed each other's sensibilities. And we used to, like, watch, you know, Mel Brooks movies together and, like, hosted a talent show as as Wayne and Garth. You know, it was like, that's the kind of, we did like a lip sync at camp to Freddie Mercury's Don't Stop Me Now. Wow. And so video or no?

There's video. Okay. It's out there. You'll see it. I might be in spandex with a stuffed animal taped over my crotch. Might be. Maybe. Okay.

So, tease the people. So he ends up going off and he became a writer and producer for family guy. And I've gone off and done, you know, comedy stuff. And, and then we came together to create. the show with Mark Levin and Jen Flackett, who were his first bosses when he moved to L.A., who were a wonderful writer-director team. So immediately, the four of us start, and there's a real core familial friendship quality. And then I started to just called in all the friends, all the people you mentioned and a bunch

of the writers are all people who I've, you know, John, I've known since college and have worked with throughout Jason and Jesse and Jenny Slate. I met early on doing stand-up and improv in New York, and then... You've gone onto a business. career together. And now we've gone on to, you know, unfortunately, we are, we are out of money. Yeah. So we have to report.

Oh, gosh. The Bringer Network is folding. Wow. The shareholders will not be placed. It's been a roller coaster ride for them. Bristol was difficult. Yeah. And so we have moved away from being in Connecticut.

That's, first of all, so have I. So have many of the people who work here. And for the better, I think. So we think so. Oh, yeah. We think there's tremendous opportunity. In other parts of New England? Yeah, we're off the plantation.

New Hampshire. We're going to Rhode Island, baby. A lot of tax breaks. We're going to Providence. We are in touch with Buddy Sianzi's estate. Did we talk about this last time we spoke? You know, I... Do you know those guys?

The Siancies? Yeah. The syndicate? Is that what we're talking about? I've enjoyed his pasta sauce. No, I've just constantly, I went to school there, and the urban legend of Buddy Siancy's wife. Nancy Ann. Nancy Anse Anci. Nancy Anci. I've never wanted something to be true more. So

apparently it's not. But, you know, pre-Snopes era guys. Yes. You don't know if there's a beautiful lie that the mayor, the first lady, if you will, of Providence was named Nancy Anci. That's amazing. That is great. Not true. It's not true. No. You can listen to the podcast Crime Town. Yes. Which is a pretty, it'll give you. That's what I was wondering if we had talked about. No. But it's a great podcast. Guys, I lived it. I've got providence in my blood. Just so, you know, that's going to be on the weird,

I don't remember what I would call that anymore. Oh, our network? Yeah, the weird. Fake bros, fake weird bros? Oh, damn it. We blew it. You guys shouldn't be the face of this business anymore. It's over.

I think we need to macro dose more. Just to return to one thing. I need to drink more acid. What you're saying to me is that the origins of the show wasn't Netflix. coming to you and saying, you know, we have this idea for prepubescent penises playing basketball. Can you build this out? No. We have this IP.

Yes, we have this. But just by the way, to be clear, it's not acid LSD. It's battery acid. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got to keep this voice gravelly. Yeah. So when we went to Netflix, they said to us, we want you guys to Internet Explorer some other things about sexuality at an early.

age. So we brought them this idea that was a little pencil test, two, three minutes of me and, you know, a couple of the people on the show, and here's what it would look like. Here's me as the hormone monster. Which is terrific. Which is, thank you. But it was, it really was, we wanted to talk about that period of life, that sort of like truly beautiful nightmare that is puberty. I feel like it's kind of like if, like there was a fantastical absurd aspect to just the freaks component of freaks or just the geeks of freaks and geeks like the younger group yeah of kids like there's an element of it which is because i feel like that show did such a good job of tackling like the real life kind of like hormonal kind of emotional shifts that

are making you feel like everything is so important but that it is not yeah this show i feel like does is examining similar ground in a wonderful way so it is really heartfelt and very sweet and very kind to its characters while putting a layer of true insanity on top of it, which makes it, like, really insanely funny. And I also think it's worth noting that you give equal shrift to the female characters. And the magical mystery tour that is female puberty, which is often left out of this. It's called Fuberty. Oh, is it really?

Female puberty. That's what Nick told me. That's the doctor's told you. They did research for the show, and it's called Fubberty. Well, because we're doing our own Lenny letter called Fubbery. And so it's... It's just Nick Kroll and Jason Manson's, write letters to young girls. That is a great...

Puberty. That is a great space for you guys to get into. I just think... I'm sorry, I'm just getting in a text. We're currently being asked to turn ourselves out. Yeah, but yeah. But it is, it was very important to us to, you know, to, because it has been a male, generally like, in the first episode, it's like, why is it when, like, we talk about puberty,

it's the miracle of ejaculation. And for girls, it's like this yarn ball. of aching tubes, which is a Jesse Klein phraseology about, like, that it's all about their periods and reproductive systems. And we were very, we really wanted to give equal time to both. And so, you know, there's an episode that's called Girls Are Horney 2. And it's just, and like, Jesse has a conversation with her vagina. Voiced by, voiced by Kristen Wig. Perfect. So it's like, yeah. And it's, yeah, she's, and, but then, like, Jason has a relationship with.

his pillow. Jay, my character does. Your character? I did want to ask about the blurring of lines because you said, you know, right there in the promotional materials for Big Mouth, this is based on your friendship with Andrew and you and your childhoods. And then, you know... Much the same way that blurred lines is based on the Stevie Wonder song.

Yes, legally. Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay, that's what it was. That has been legally established as related to you. Yes. The character of Jay voiced by our friend Jason here. Yes. Were you also a young illusionist?

I mean... I was not. That bit of Jay's character, the close-up magic and all that, is a different friend of Nick and Andrews. A bunch of the characters, but specifically Jay's an amalgam of like a few of our friends and then Jason. So we had a friend who loved to, he fucked his pillow. Sure. And so, and we had another friend who did magic. And then we're like, which one of my current friends best embodies the combination of the combination of

these two values. Cablam. Yeah. You did have like a big Jake Jillen Hall said no. It came to me. Yeah, that's right. Happens often enough. More often than you'd think.

Yeah. It is true, though. We did offer it to Jillen Hall first. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everything goes to Jill and Hall first. Yeah. You were supposed to be the night crawler. Yes, the night crawler.

You've clearly not seen this film. I'm assuming it's a superhero movie. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And stronger, the Boston Marathon film. was also offered to you first. Correct.

Turn it down. But you won't work with Tatiana Mazzlani, right? I will not. I am on the record saying Tatiana Mazzlani, no matter how much you beg me, I will not act opposite you. Cablam. Yeah. This is breaking news on this podcast. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. We're putting everybody on blast. The finger boys are back in business. Finger boys. Putting everybody on blast. Ta-Tiana Mzlani. Yeah. Bam.

Bam. Let me tip his table over. Fearless. You just got finger brides. Finger bruce. Finger bruce. It's finger bros. and finger boys the finger broys it's fearless her show just ended she's currently unemployed and now

someone's a real orphan now oh finger broys a couple i am i'd like to apologize um there's a again i don't spoil the show i think people will go on a magical mystery journey with the show get her like a little pink corvette what i what i wanted to say is i was watching and i was just really appreciating how the best comedy comes from in an almost surgical level of specificity And the example I wanted to, and I'd like you to speak on that. And I think you've actually been giving us a very good example of that throughout. There is a moment when the hormone monster, which is the gang banging night ogre that you play. Gang banging.

Doesn't he? At one point he takes credit for it. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You can feel free to choose another adjective. That's the one that floats from me. Well, he's got multiple penises. I'm trying to think if he's... Even his nose is a little phallic.

He looks... He's very phallic. And he has little penises that are like little dogs, baby, dog. babies that he carried on it. There's a moment when he, he and his puppies. There's a moment when he apologizes to Andrew for not being there because he was busy inducting his good friend Joe Walsh into the

Rock and Roll of Fame, which made me laugh harder than most things. Yes. In the last year or two. And then you go with it. You show it. It's one of like four cutaways. Like we don't do tons of cutaways, but we did do a cutaway to the hormone monster wearing small reading glasses

inducting the rack and roll hall of fame. And then Joe Walsh then joins the fray. Right. Joe Walsh is there in the high school. Everybody's clamoring for my Joe Walsh impression. Young people want more access. Because here's the thing, young people these days, millennials, they don't have enough access to Joe Walsh.

No, there's a couple. Or Joe Walsh jokes. There's a couple things where I'm like, oh, okay, this is based on their lives, but they've made it. It's today, everybody. There's smartphones, you know? And then the Joe Walsh jokes start creeping in. I'm like, this was made by 40 years. I remember when Nick came to me and he said, listen.

I think Andrew and I have figured out a way to get the Joe Walsh thing on TV. We're starting an animated show called Big Mouth. In episode three, you work backwards. You work backwards. You're bad, you mean. All just so cruel could do his Joe Walsh suppression. It was like season, it might have been one of the last seasons of the league. We were shooting in L.A.

We're shooting the draft, literally the draft, quote unquote. Jim McMahon is in it. and I go outside to like take a phone call and I'm across the street from the Columbia Records building where they're having an outdoor celebration for Ringo Starr's 75th birthday. Sure. And Richard Lewis opens. What? This is like 70, they're like 100 and 200 people there outside. We love you, Ringo!

And then Richard Lewis opens. And then Joe Walsh comes out because Joe Walsh is married to Ringo Starr's sister. They're brother-in-laws. They're brother-in-laws. They married sisters, right? Barbara Bach. Yes, that's right. Or something like this.

They married sisters. And Joe Walsh-in gets up, who's sober, but still sound, he's like, Ringo's dark with the baseman's ever met. And it just stuck. It just stuck. Our favorite thing, I'll speak collectively. Chris isn't here, but we talk of this often. Where are you, Chris Ryan?

where in the world is tiny Chris Ryan. Can we put in a little dancing head? Yeah. He's in Porto. There's a level of... Oh, don't we know. We solved it. Forget it.

He's fine. Credits. Where else would you be? River touring. Joe Walsh, sort of the, there's a level of fame where you just have, if not, naked contempt for your audience, just a complete apathy. And Joe Walsh, blessed with success, fandom,

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Prove your respect would. I'll be watching it. I hope you will too. I wanted to ask, Nick, we spoke briefly on the way in. You're shooting a film called Uncle Drew. Yes. That is really called from your life story, I believe. Yes, very much so. Playing in the Rucker League in New York with NBA players. I came up not playing in a Jewish day school basketball league in Westchester,

but instead the Rucker Classic, which is like a, a very famous streetball tournament. Was Fat Joe your first coach? Is that accurate? I weirdly big pun was. Oh. And so it's been hard. It's been a tough 17 years for you. But your comedy helps you work through it. Yeah. It helps.

It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a prophylactic. If you will. Yeah. It's a prophylactic? Yeah. In that I wear a human-sized condom. every night before I go to bed. But I poke one hole in it so I can breathe and get pregnant.

Yes. Yes, exactly. So I can get the Statue of Liberty pregnant. But yes, to answer your question, I did. You are really good at basketball. Before I ask you about Kyrie, which I do want to ask you. You guys, how is it? I'm going to throw this to Jason too.

Because you've been a little quiet over there. He's a real wallflower. What is it like being, you guys, you do bits together, goof arounds, jokes with your pals. This is stock and trade now. This is a business. You're brought into other productions maybe with people who don't do this. Is it ever not surreal to be on the set with, in this case of this film, Chris Weber and Lisa Leslie, doing these bits? Or are you both accustomed now to bring people in or testing to see who you're with and whether they're amenable to it or not?

it's a specific thing. Well, I'll answer for myself and then I'll answer for Jason. Appreciate that. And then he can answer for himself, but it will pale. In that, no, I'll say this about Jason is that I think the reason sometimes we get brought into sets is to be disruptive, not as like a force of on set. When you're brought into Silicon Valley. Exactly.

But now that we've become big tech guys, we've, it's always a risk to disrupt. B TVs, big tech pros. And that's our, that's our like big brother, big sister thing. Yeah. But we tech, we, we, we're big brothers to younger tech bros. You meet with younger women interested in the sciences and dissuade them from following as a career path. We meet with our little tech bros.

Yeah. And we give them all like old, um, old iPads. Yeah. And the mailing list for Fuburity. Yeah. Because it'll come in handy. I'm just trying to draw a bow around this. Oh, no.

Don't worry. Don't get there. We'll make connections at the end. It's all coming together. So, but I will say that, um, part of the reason, I think like someone like Jason goes into a set and will like work with Robert De Niro on the hit film Bad Grandpa. Dirty Grandpa. Dirty Grandpa. Wow.

Friendship. Bad Grandpa, also a movie, though. So you're not wrong about that. But and I think people will do a take with him and then sort of watch and not understand like the magic that he's seemingly doing. De Niro or Jason? Jason. Oh, sure. Sorry.

De Niro? Yeah. He's known for just goofing, right? He's a real goofball on set. Well, they very much, like, asked me to improvise, and I didn't know if they had told him really at all. And he is not, he is a pretty kind of stoic character. So I started kind of going off and doing stuff,

and he just kind of was like, not giving anything back, but just kind of sitting there. And then at the end of like a couple of minutes of a take, he just went, there was some funny stuff in there. So I think it's. And I was it. I was like, all right. But then it's like, but I think people in this while I'm answering for him is because he is that it's people are kind of blown away by it. And I think really start to enjoy it, even if it's not exactly what they do back.

the key to being able to sort of mess around is mess around and then lead your way back in if they're not going to improvise with you. Right. So that they can then say their stuff. It was interesting. It would happen on the league a lot because the league was a fully improvised show.

And you'd then, but you would always incorporate guest stars. And you would have these moments with people where, you know, because 95% of, 99% of TV work is scripted to the word. I mean, then you are expected to know those words and people's processes are built around knowing those words. And you would see people kind of have a kind of walked off a cliff moment of like, what would it mean this is the script? Because there's no dialogue in here. What am I supposed to do? It's just like a paragraph description of what happens in the scene. And then you'd work with them for a couple of takes and then everybody would be like, wait, this is fun. Yeah. Yeah. I see what's

happening and it would get really cool and electric and exciting. Yeah. And I think that what's been interesting doing the Uncle Drew movie is it's Kyrie, for people who don't know, it's Kyrie Irving did a character for like a Pepsi viral video a few years ago where he plays an old man who then goes to a streetball game and kits involved in people are like blown away

this old man so good. And Kyrie was really funny at it and just it took off. And so the movie is him and Chris Weber and Lisa Leslie and Reggie Miller and Nate Robinson all and Shaq, all an old man and old women makeup. playing getting back together to play in this big streetball tournament and what's fascinating is and you put those people on paper the only thing left to say is get me crawl yeah get me cruel it is but it was when I heard about I was like yeah I would this would be so fun to play with these guys and part of

it is and we found this with certain guys on the league too like j.J. Watt for example who we shot a day with at the beginning of a week it was like his second or third year and he came in it was the week of the Espies is when we could get players. He comes in, does a day, then goes off and shoots like two or three commercials, does like a bit for the Espies and comes back on Friday to shoot his second day of filming. By Friday, he was a, he was a, he was very comfortable and very good improviser. And it was like, the reason I think people like, he or a Kyrie become like some of the greatest players in their league is because they're so smart and so able to. to adapt, learn, and evolve. And the quickness.

So like... Yeah, and you're just slotting a different skill set into the same kind of rubric you have to get better at something. Right. You know? And so those guys can process that, learn it, adapt, and be... And get better immediately. Which is why if we only wanted...

If we wanted to, we could just slot this, like, playing basketball into the same comedy rubric we are... And we could basically be NBA players. Well, there's a magical thinking to all this that I respect. But there's also a positivity. And I say that... as someone who has been sitting next to both of you on a stage

at different times. I'm not even counting this time. Sure. And when I played Jason was a guest on Talk the Thrones live and I was John Mullaney's understudy. People didn't realize that on Broadway. Every night you waited backstage. I waited patiently in my own makeup. Never missed a show that

bastard. In your own makeup but as a clown. So it was this is pre-it. Not good at makeup. But what I wanted to say was when you guys come out with the skill sets that you have as improvisers, there is something that is, at first, intimidating and exciting because it appears that you guys are, like, getting radio waves from a totally different celestial boombox. You seem to be operating on a different level, but, and it's very, like,

you want to be a part of it. It's exciting. But I think there's a positivity that is baked into it, right? Because it can't be, I'm here doing this thing and I'm walling it off from the rest of you. There's part of you doing it on this high level, but also extending, I mean, not in my case on Broadway, but in general extending a hand. We were not, we never, by the way, and you, eventually, you're not allowed in the theater. No, I understand. Because you were never our understudy. I've always felt that we got along well, but Melania and I have always had friction.

Yes, of course. Always had friction. Well, you dressed up and you said I'm the real George St. Giglin, and that was a problem. But I think that it's the improv stuff is, I mean, I think inherently it's a collaborative effort. It has to be. Right. It's a real team sport. Yeah.

There's nothing. We're not doing, especially like on stage, whether it's Talk the Thrones or whether it's some sort of panel or anything. Like, there is no singular glory. Like, there's nobody who's going to win the panel. Like, and it's better as an ensemble if we are all playing the same game, basically. If we are all participating in the same thing such that whatever we've chosen or whatever positions we've staked out, we can keep forwarding them.

And everybody can help. I can play your game. You can play my game. We can all set each other up. And if everybody can kind of carve out that space, then the whole show works versus is I'm funny alone and everybody else can do their own thing. Right. It's not my problem.

To pivot to my Barbara Walters question here, yes. It does appear much like the secret or any other culty thing that people used to, as designs for their life. What you're saying about improv, as a skill set, does seem to have applied to both of your careers because I would, because they've moved in directions that you,

that surprise you. You are basically on a podcast now with me, which was never the plan, Jason. And, and, and, and, and, And Nick, you are sharing a basketball court with NBA All-Stars. Yes.

But there is a collaborative and positive but cumulative effect to this. Is that fair to say? I think so. I think it's such a – that's what's such a fun, exciting time in all of this, like, entertainment stuff, is that it's so much more fluid that it's like, we're here doing this podcast. Tomorrow we're doing a TV show. Next week, we're doing a movie. Then following week, we're doing a panel.

like that it's people's lanes are so much less defined that you can collaborate and get to know people in such varied ways that it all becomes much more. Which is an exciting, like it always is intriguing to me to meet someone who's, who will be like, oh, I'm a big fan of yours and have them be like from your podcast, how did this get made? Right. And I've never seen you act or whatever. We're going to edit that.

You know, or the opposite. It's just my mouth is moving, but there's no sense. sound. Whoa. What is that? Oh, it went weird. But from the various things that you do, they are fan of it. But there is now such a kind of diversity of opportunities that people can kind of dial in

on one thing in a way and be like, oh, no, I don't watch you. I've never seen you on anything. But I love the podcast or the flip of like people being like, oh, I just discovered you have a podcast. I like you on whatever show you're on. And those, like the idea that we can all kind of participate in creative. endeavors in a myriad of platforms and is really exciting and really cool and kind of gets back to what you're saying about improv, which is we came up in a scene that was so ensemble collaborative

based that everybody continued, like, Kroll doing Big Mouth turns around and, you know, rather than kind of being like, oh, it's got to be a show about my character, blah, blah, blah, creates an ensemble-based show, turns around and puts everybody that he kind of, that is his like peer group from coming up in New York or a myriad other places and says, these are the people, this is the show. It's for everybody, you know, and that's exciting. We should wrap up in a moment because I know you have an investor meeting, but I, but you're saying Jason reminds me of something that we talked about off mic, which was that you notice that there may be like a generational divide in comedy, almost like pre-UCB, post-UCB in terms of collaborative spirit of knowing each other,

of building something together as opposed to, you know, I mean, I don't know what the landscape was, but I imagine it was a lot more fractured. Yeah, I think it's, I mean, it's, I think, again, a myriad of things that happen, but it is like, it used to be, if you were in comedy, the goal was like, your stand-up, you go get your deal at Montreal, you go create your show, that is your show from your point of view.

And there still is versions of that. I think even that has become, though, like Louis or Aziz or whatever it is. It's like a different thing. But the truth is the rest of us have, and really it has become this other sort of collaborative thing between UCB and all the like alt comedy spaces and all that stuff. There's just less of a divide now.

And I just will say like one tech broi, one finger broie a company does not make. But as soon as it becomes the finger broys, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. It's a five billion dollar valuation right now. Wow, this is,

we should probably end before. Okay, I should say, If you're reading about any scandals, they are true. One fun thing to note is we're actually not putting this podcast up until next week. So it is a fluid situation. Okay. So welcome to the fucking future. So by the time this comes out, North Korea will be gone.

That's the important thing to remember that the world will be very different. Markedly different. And that's where we're building the campus. And the Frink. Oh. The Fingerbroys campus. The Fingerboys campus. Last thing, just for the big mouth fans.

The real mouth heads head. The heads head. Yeah, what are we going to call them? The mouthies? The biggies? There are a lot of possibilities. There's a lot of fluids and things that are presence on the show. It's so jizzy.

The show is pretty jizzy. Maybe that's pretty jizzy. Pretty jizzy is my rap name. Do you... Jason's a gay rapper named Pretty jizzy. Pretty jizzy. Would you like to spit a couple bars on mic? I would not.

No, once you can give them a deal. That's fair. By the way, we do have a record label. That's incredible to know. Just that puberty being a rich text, how I imagine there are many more seasons, potentially you could unpack this if you haven't. I mean, Netflix, I know,

lumped you guys together with Fuller House recently. We did it. Yeah, I was Skypeed in and I did not know that it was the Fuller House audience. Internally, that. Internally, that's the spillover audience, spillover a big mouth term.

I believe that... That's also part of the finger broys marketing campaign is the spillover. That's what happens later. It's a coaster. But there's, potentially, there's more to come. Yes, there are many, thank you.

No, that works. You get it. You got to have confidence in your word. Can I play now? Yeah, of course. It's, yes, there's a potential for so much more. there's so many stories to tell in that space.

And I, weirdly, there were kids, I guess I was not, the Fuller House was the same at the Paley Center, but I weirdly do want, I would love for kids to watch this show. It's so dirty. Very dirty. But I would, parents, like, if your kid, like I'm in sausage party, if you let your kids see sausage party, I think you can, they can see this show. Not Captain Underpants, probably.

Not Captain Underpants. Or sing. But yes, no, correct. But I think that there is, I think there are some actual conversations that can come out of the show that maybe give people some tools to talk about things that kids and parents are actually going through that could be useful. Are these things that Jason has talked to you about as your father? I've left some books around. Sure. He is yet to be.

He's yet to be toilet trained. Yes. Oh, yeah. So it's a slower curve. Very much. Everyone develops at their own pace. You get it. You've got kids.

This is not dissimilar from my experience at home, frankly. One of the books is like how to wipe up. You've read it? It's about the BP oil spill. Yeah. But that's just kind of a metaphor. It's very sweet. It's a lesson inside a lesson.

We could keep going, but I feel, no, I know. Questions. Come on. No, I think we in. Do we have a collar? Yeah. Do we have a collar on the collar? Go ahead.

Just to be clear. The Gulf of Mexico is your butthole in this, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, I think that. We've got Chris Ryan calling in from Porto. Chris, go ahead. I'm tiny. I think we've checked all the boxes. Netflix PRS to check. Right. We hit it all. Oh, yeah.

So, I think we're good. Is there anything else we talk about? This is your podcast, Jason. Well, I, I guess we should talk to. We should, we should, we should thank the sponsors, Fingerbroys. Yeah, the Fingerbroys Network. please sign up for our newsletter Fuberty

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yeah right it's we're holding on oh no you got to hold on to my 30s hold on as long as you can and that's the name of the song oh what happens we're allowed to take one piece of memorabilia from this situation? Sure, I want the office picture. You could take it and walk. I want the clipper's basketball hoop. The DVD board game? Yeah. Guys, remember when you could

sell DVDs for anything? Yeah. And make board games of things. Yeah. Hey, you want to pay $40? Remember when you would walk in someone's house and they would have like a huge DVD collection? Curated. Curated. Curated. Alphabetized. Tower. A tower of DVDs. A tower. Those people must feel like fucking morons now. Yeah. Dumbies. Yeah. How does that feel? So when the internet breaks down and you can't stream anything, you have your DVDs to watch? Ah, loser. Wait, invite us over. Do you have season five of Third Rock from the Sun?

Oh, I'm going to see some classic mid-lift guy. Yeah. Ugh, to see where... And tiny JGL. Yeah, see where he is on the hair spectrum at that point. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, here we go.

I think this is how we should fade out. Yeah, we'll feed out. It was nice, guys. Thrones? How'd you feel about the end of Thrones, baby? Hey, guys, I'm on season... Feel free to walk in. I'm on season six of Game of Thrones.

Oh, that's right. Oh, that is an annoyingly close place to park yourself. Yes, it is. That is infuriating. It's so weird. It's so close. It's like so close that I know sort of what's going on. And then like, I'll see a thumbnail on AOL and be like, ah.

Why are you on AOL? Where else am I going to get my news and email from? Wait, what? I'm paying $10 a month. I'll see a thumbnail on AOL. Season six, parking on season six is the being 39 of watching Game of Thrones. Tell me about it. Imagine being 30.

And it's the... Alone in your home watching season six A Game of Thrones. That sounds great. That sounds amazing. And in order to email your friends about it, you have to load a CD-ROM. Do I have mail? Fingers cross.

I do. I do it. And that's it. Thanks, everybody. That's the show. Thanks for checking out the Andy Greenwell podcast. This is The Watch. Coming to you.

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And it's like an AOL, but for dudes. Yeah, sure. You've got males in, you've got mail. So we're going up against, you know, do you, the chive. We got our barstool sports and the chive. We got our, we got our, we got our, we got our, we got our, CD-ROM based community. Yeah, it's all, it's, it's, it's, it's, what we do. is we leave flash drives around

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