The Watch - The Great ‘Baby Driver’ Debate With Jason Mantzoukas, Plus Andy Samberg (Ep. 165)

Episode Date: July 7, 2017

The Ringer’s Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald are joined by Jason Mantzoukas to discuss ‘Talk the Thrones’ and his new movie, ‘The House’ (1:00), before they hash out their hot takes on ‘Baby Driver’ (17:00). Later, Andy Samberg calls in to talk about his new HBO sports mockumentary, ‘Tour de Pharmacy’ (41:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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subject to additional terms. Chargers apply for additional nights, and a payment card is required. Getting into video games has never been so easy. I need sports to have to clear the room. Stand up and walk now. Hello, and welcome to The Watch. My name is Chris Ryan. I have an editor at the rigger.com. And joining me in the studio, nobody puts baby in a Subaru. It's Andy Greenwald.

I drive a Subaru. I know. You're just like Ansel Elgort. I don't drive it like that. Andy, for a couple of things. A couple of weeks now we've been talking about our live show that we're doing at Largo. We've been talking. Hey, man, how are you? How are you? Happy July 4th.

Did you have a good holiday? Not really. I had to sit around and wait for Gordon Hayward for most of it. Gordon Hayward ruined everyone's life in Utah and at the Ringer. Yes. So we're back, though. And next week on Tuesday we're going to be at Largo for a live Talk the Thrones. We're very excited about this.

You, me, Jason Mallory. Concepcion and Mallory Rubin. And we've been talking about how we're special guests. Yeah. That special guest is here in the studio right now. It's friend of the pod, Jason Manzuka. Woo! What's up, everybody?

First of all, we apologize that we kept you in here over the holiday weekend. You came through with this straight morning zoo vibe right there. I'm here with Chris and Andy in the morning. Bam, bam, bam, bam. A minute ago, he says he doesn't do impressions. Look at him. How's the traffic on 995? We are so happy.

Thank you for joining us today. Thank you so much for having me, gentlemen. On Tuesday. Thrilled to be here. We know. The watch. This is going to be a great live show. Don't worry.

I'm bringing that app to the live show. Yep. We'll also be joined by Andrea Savage. I am living my dream of reuniting my all-time favorite post-credits sequence. Savage! True killer! This stuff is ready to go? Don't worry.

It's the Mad Decent app. They've got a sound board up. Thank you, Diplo. Thank you for that. And for many other things. Jason and Andrew will be joining us live on stage. Yeah. They have a history.

They know each other well. Yes, we've been in many movies together, including the movie that you are... Sleep with other people. That you are obsessed with, Andy, which I love. I really love that movie. No, no, so do I. Leslie Headland, writer-director, extraordinary, fantastic movie. Yeah.

But she won't be there, unfortunately. But you will. And Savage will. And we're going to have a great time talking about that. We're going to do it in character. Yes. Which character are you going to be? Yes.

Zander and Naomi of the characters from that movie. Oh, I thought you were like Circe and Tyrion. Oh, that would be even better. Yeah, we're going to do a deep, deep sleep with other people. Oh, man. If I went, I would definitely come as Thoros of Mir. That's an easy one. That's good for you.

That's a pretty good one. You know, I realized super late, and I realized like a month ago that I did a pilot with Paul Kay. And I was like, fuck, that's Thoros of Mir. Did you really? Like years ago, years in you. He had like a development deal here, and Larry Charles directed like a CBS pilot presentation starring Paul. And I was in it. Wow.

And I realized that's so late And I was like, oh, that's crazy. I met Thoros of me. Very exciting to me. So I love this story because not only are you proving your Hollywood bona fides, but also low-key, your Thrones bonifides, because Thoros is a real deep cut. Thoros is a fan favorite.

I thought you were going to be like, Ned Stark is great. And I hope he wins the Game of Thrones. He's my favorite character. I can't wait to see what happens. Jason, you have told us that you have been listening to binge mode. Yes. So you are up to date. I'm very excited that Jason and Mallory have been doing.

it because it has taken the place of my normal rewatching, you know, the previous season of Game of Thrones in preparation for the next. Would you do that? That's my, my question is what? I used to watch the previous. Yeah, I would watch whatever the last season was or most of it. You know, I would kind of speed through some stuff. So you are a legit fan because you could have, for the record, we would have invited you to be on the show. Oh yeah. If you were just like, that sounds great. Guys, I'll talk about all of it. I'll talk about R plus L equals J. I'll get in. to it. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I'll talk about Barrett Dundarian. I mean, come on

guys. Barrett. Great. Barrett gets a lot of love in that trailer. I'll talk about the Leanna Mormont, 10-year-old child ruler of Bear Island. He actually remembers more than we do, which is great. I feel like this is like the binge mode of binge mode. This is great. Should we do a podcast about it? Come on. Come on. No, we're really excited for the Largo show. We're excited. to have Jason on today. Jason, I want

to talk about, so we got the house in theaters now, which you are the third build on, I would say. I am. But I would say the MVP. Which is pretty weird. I would say MVP of the movie. I'll take it. Thank you, Chris. And then there's also, I think we wanted to talk about Baby Driver. Have you seen it? I did, yeah. Let's start with the house.

Okay. Go, go, go. Just because we were emailing about this briefly. I've not seen the movie yet, although I'd like it do. I like everyone in this movie. Everyone, home run. Home run group of people in this movie. Look at the IMDB page of this film. Yes. Look at the IMDB page, not the Rotten Tomatoes page.

Well, this is what I wanted to get at. So this film is Will Ferrell, it's Amy Poehler, it's you. Andrea Savage, Lannan Parham, Nick Kroll, Rob Hubell. These are the who's who of your favorite comedians. These are some of the funniest people out there. Truly. And I like to read the New York Times film reviews. Oh, yeah.

We in fact have been talking about this recently. A.O. Scott, Tony Scott, one of their lead reviewer. He and Manola Dargis were the inspiration for the 25 list that we did recently. that's right. He wrote this review of the house that was terrific. Oh yeah. It is a basically a rave review. He finds very interesting social things happening. He really does.

He has this reading of it and you alluded to the Rotten Tomatoes score. His point of view seems to be polite and outlier. I wrote you back, I think, because you were like, oh, this review is great in the times and I was like, please only read that review. And I did.

What I'd like to talk to you about is... The other reviews have been in a word, savage. which is crazy. Can you talk us through what this is like from your perspective? Because obviously you signed on to this project because you saw something there. Oh, sure. You put in work on it. This is nothing but talented people.

It seems to have missed the mark critically in some degree. Is the Tony Scott review accurate to the movie that you hoped to make? Well, I mean, I think his review is definitely, like you're saying, coming at it from a more like social point of view of what is it to exist in a world right now where a college education is so prohibitively expensive, such as, so as to, like,

force people into crazy behavior. If that is the kind of jumping off point for this movie, then, yeah, no, he's got, like, a very thoughtful review from that point of view.

Now, the movie then takes that and blows it into insanity by making, like, if, so Will and Amy are the couple whose child needs to go to school, they lose her college education, you know,

scholarship and her college education fund and all that stuff that they have. and so they're in this weird spot of needing the money and so my character convinces them to start an illegal casino in the suburbs and you know as you can imagine hijinks ensue and it basically is we become the mob of the cul-de-sac you know and that's the setup

and so I think what a lot a lot of people were like oh great setup great people but you know a lot of the reviews just didn't get there you know we're like it didn't land with them or they didn't love the comedy or whatever, but you know, I think for him, there was

like a really interesting issue there that he was interested in exploring and that I do think is in the movie, so it was great to read that. Were you surprised by this? Because we, when you've been on the show before and we've spoken, you have definitely, through facial expression or artfully chosen silence made it clear that there are projects

you've been involved with that maybe you don't think were that great in the way they turned out. Sure. Of course not. You've seen that. But is this one of those ones where it caught you by surprise in terms of the type of reaction that it got? You know, it did. It did only because there's a ton of funny stuff in this movie, you know, and I think that,

like, this is a movie that is predisposed to being something that people would, in my mind, go to see in the summer for, like, fun summer kind of blowout movie, you know, and it's Will Ferrell and Amy Poehler and, you know, who I think are beloved and, you know, and people, and who together are, like, dynamite, you know, like, just not a pairing we've seen on the big screen. Very, you know, not, yeah, not really. Aside from, like, appearing in the same movies at a couple of times, they've not done something together, I don't think, or something like that.

Except for obviously being on SNL at one point together. But, you know, they really are, like, it's great to watch them do their thing. And then everybody else, people that you know from TV or movies that you also like. So I was surprised that people weren't more into it as summer fun. Because I do think it is that. I don't think it's, you know, like, I really, I really like the movie. I think there's a ton of funny stuff in there. Yeah.

Like one of the things I was wondering if there was a misconception about it is because Farrell does that have that like he's got the two tiers of comedy. He's got like the R-rated ones. And this is like a hard R comedy. It's fucking funny. But it's like there's cocaine and MMA and severed limbs and lots of stuff. And it's like those are the laughs. Like they're really, really funny. But did people think this was going to be daddy's home or something a little bit more tame or something?

I don't know. I don't know if people's expectations were not. there because I think that, you know, yeah, like the last couple of movies he's done, well, no, I mean, maybe he's just daddy's home. I was going to say we're more like family-oriented. But I do feel like they, for sure, promoted this as a return to the kind of, like, crazy, you know, old school stepbrothers, Talladega Nights, R-rated, Anchorman, kind of, not those kind of, not those big characters as some of those movies, but like, but that kind of humor,

which I do think is kind of what's there. The guys that wrote, it rode neighbors, and I feel like it has a similar vibe to that. And they just stalked it with really funny people. So I think everybody was very in on making the movie we were making. But we're in, I think we're both in a super weird time, nobody's going to see comedies. You know, like, whether that's the movies themselves that people aren't interested in or whether we're just in some weird zone where people are like, ooh, I don't go to the movies to see comedies. I go to the movies to see epic, you know, spectacle movies.

and I wait and watch comedies at home. Right. And especially we're in a moment with comedy where not only is it flowering creatively on TV, but also Netflix is literally flooding the zone with a new comedy special. Every week. And if you guys,

you may have noticed that every year we are missing at Adam Sandler comedy in the movie theater and that's because they're on Netflix. I mean, it's not for nothing. I mean, I don't notice when a new one comes up because of the way that Netflix is kind of constructed, but it is interesting that that is,

I wonder if there's like a knock-on effect of like there's not something to point to. You would see like, oh, see, you know, like this thing about Adam Sandler going back to camp made $100 million. Like, comedies are funny. Like, they work. Do you, does that bother you? Does that, like, is that make you nervous about it? Because it feels like at once, like, comedy has never been bigger as, like, an industry.

But at the same time, the theater experience. I do think there is some, I do think we are in some transition right now. And that I think is applicable to. I think we're in this, you know, like, I think the music industry imploded 15 years ago. And I think TV and film have been. imploding in the interim, you know, in these last bunch of years. And I do wonder whether we're just kind of waiting for some comedy to come along that's everybody agrees is great and everybody goes to see and is the next hangover bridesmaids type of

movie that connects with the next generation, with the next, with culture on the whole, or are we going to transition to like, is Netflix going to be like, oh, Netflix now has a channel where they're just making comedies. Yeah. You know, like we're using the Sandler model, but applying it to just like a bigger category. Sure. So they're making original, wouldn't that be, I would be into that. That doesn't worry me.

That's, I, more than anything, I just want to get to wherever we're going. Yeah, right. You know, I want to get to the point where we're making content that's finding its audience, whether that is on screens at home via Apple TV or Netflix or whatever or in theaters. But, you know, like right now we're in some weird limbo, I feel. like. It's strange. One of the trailers before the house last night when I went and saw it was for Annabelle,

the origin of the conjuring doll. Oh, sure. Yeah. And it was like, but the reason why I'm bringing up is because. Of course. I mean, I auditioned for the doll.

But that doll gets all my parts. But the, that doll was almost in the house. Horror consistently performs at the box office. And it's sort of weird that like there should be a big. baseline of these certain genre films that are just like, yeah, everybody wants to go see a horror movie every three months. And I feel the same about comedy. Yeah.

That's what I mean. What is the Blumhouse of comedy basically? Why can't they just like bring down the ceiling a little bit in terms of the budget if necessary? And then just you have the raw materials are there. Oh yeah. And I think there's an entire generation of comedians who are ready to do it. It really is just like what's the system that's going to get them there. Did it you have the ability to be funny in many mediums?

I'll take it. Print. Print. Print. My news column is my byline in the Wall Street Journal. Ceramics. Yep. You're hilarious. Just Jason.

A hilarious origami. But, podcast as well. But did it feel different in some way to be, this is a major studio movie? Your job is your job. You go and you work and you play off your scene partners and you're funny. You bring what you bring to it that the doll will never be able to bring by the way. You know, fuck that doll. I just want to tell you right now.

You know what? That doll. Fuck that doll. But is there a different feeling on the same? instead of a, quote-unquote, major film, or is it really all in perception in the backhand? It's not so much. I mean, you walk into things that are bigger than normal. You know what I mean? Like, you know, when we lit Jeremy Renner on fire, like, we, there was like, there was an enormous, like, we lit a guy on fire. Is it actually Jeremy Renner? For part of it. And then it switches when it really engulfs him in flames.

And I was like, oh, this is terrifying. Like, this guy's going to die. Did you talk to Jeremy Renner? Oh, yeah. Can you share some of that with us? Oh, yeah, I don't have anything like juicy. I mean, we mostly talked about flipping houses. There it is. I'm just kidding. Every drop you can squeeze from this.

I know that you guys love that. I haven't seen my face. Runner was actually not in this movie. He just happened to be next to where they were filming it in L.A. Because he was doing work on an abode. Yeah. And there's a California craftsman located in just up the street. And was able to just slip in and just be like, to get it.

Or maybe he was like just eyeballing the house where you filmed the house. My understanding is that he misunderstood the offer from the house as a house to flip. And so he showed up to get to work. Or his agent's like, we think you could really improve the house. Exactly. He's like, that's literally what I've been waiting for you're saying. Baby, that's what I've been doing for years.

No, he was great. Missed opportunity. But it was like only in scope and kind of size of stuff like that. But otherwise, it really is just, you know, especially on this movie, showing up with a lot of people that I've worked with on other jobs and doing bits, you know. But then you really are like, oh, those bits are then going to be part of like a, multi-million dollar movie and that's weird. You know, like that's super weird.

You worked with some of the people in this movie before and I wouldn't have brought this up if Hubell hadn't already talked about this pretty openly but I understand that Mariah Carey. You fucked me, bro. You fucked me, bro. Did he? No, no, no. By talking about Mariah Carey? No, no, I'm kidding. I mean, you may work on... I love Rob Hebel and he is very

funny in this movie. He is very funny. And you may future, in the future, you might work with Mariah Carey, so choose your words. Of course. Careful. But she was supposed to be in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She She filmed a cameo that did not make it. Did you let her on fire? No, no, no.

There was a scene in which she was meant to be shot, though, and that was like this central... This movie sounds great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know what? Truth be told, she would have likely been engulfed in fire if the storyline had progressed, you know. No, and people have been talking about it and people have been asking about it. You know, it was a crazy day. It was weird, but, you know, I walk away from that day feeling like we all were, part of something pretty amazing.

Yeah. Could that footage ever make it to a deep? Probably not. Oh, sure. Yeah. You know, but the, here's the thing. The footage wouldn't be that exciting. It wasn't like, it truly was a cameo.

It was a, you are, isn't it, the basic, the bit was essentially, it wouldn't it be funny if, if the casino in the suburbs had Mariah Carey as its lounge act. Oh, okay. So you kind of find her and she's singing one of her songs and blah, blah, blah, and she and I get into an argument. And it's really like, it's utter, it's a kind of, it would have been a funny gag, I think, you know. And it just, it just kind of didn't work. Wow.

Should we, speaking of things that just kind of didn't matter? No, no, no. I have a better segue. I have a better segue for that. I thought that was a good segue. So, Andy, I'm very excited for this. You've been teasing your take on Twitter. You have a hot take?

No, it's not a take. You are seeking out other people saying that they love Baby Driver and you're being like, counterpoint, nah. I'm not seeking out. There's just enough. Like, guys, enough. Okay. Enough.

So why don't you go, I was going to say that we could talk about the way to sort of pivot to baby driver here would be actually to talk about whether or not because of the way that movies work now, our expectations for certain things are a little bit out of whack. I agree with this. And I think that the house is a really fun comedy that you can enjoy yourself for a little bit more than an hour at. And Baby Driver is a really fun action piece. And I think that what happens is in the compression of opinion, you go into Baby Driver speaking for you, and you're like, I guess this is supposed to be a masterpiece? And you come out and you were like, is that really what you guys were talking about? You know, earlier today, I listened to you cheat on me with Bill Simmons on an NBA podcast. It was great.

I really recommend that podcast. Chris had a little, like, grit in his voice. He said it like you've been like chain smoking, like working the phone. Is that what happens when you do the podcast with Bill? Yeah. So you're like, I got a man up here. Yeah, I got a drink like four Marlboro. He's the boss.

He's not like Sam Elliott. He really did. But you referred to the idea in basketball of tanks or titles. Yeah. Right? You're either tanking or you're winning a championship. And the idea that if you just have a good season and everybody's happy and you go out with some gusto, that's not a time well spent anymore. Sure.

I feel like that's sort of what you're saying about movies. Right? It's either the worst thing or it's the best thing because you have to have a stakeout some territory on Twitter Island. Now, to that point, it's amazing to me. me as always that if you'd have an opinion that is not going along with, you know, the horde that it is somehow. The lame stream media? No, what I'm saying is, but what I think it's, what I think this is speaking to is something

that you are, that we're getting at, which is that people are really, really thirsty for a movie to enjoy in the summertime that is not about toy robots fighting. Sure. I think that's great. Why, nobody's thirsty for that anymore. Nobody wants that. But this movie is not. that great. And I really

had some problems with it. I mean, it's fine. Do you want to run down what your gripes were? Yeah. Here my, and by the way, I have enjoyed all of Edgar Wright's previous film work. Yep. So I did not have any, and I think he's really, he's clearly a master

filmmaker. He knows how to make movies, and that's exciting. Anytime you see a movie with someone who has a distinct point of view and you know directorially, they have something to say and they know how to do what they want to do. But, okay, let me just start with two points. and you tell me you guys where you are with this. Okay.

I think Ansel Elgert is a black hole. The entire movie is about him in his face and believing in it. And I think that he does not, he doesn't have the range. I don't think that he is charismatic. How much of that is him versus the character? The character is meant to be a stoic kind of non-participatory member of the, you know, of the, you know, crew or whatever. But if you cast Tom Cruise in 1983 in this part, like same age Tom Cruise, you're like, well, yeah. But that's like saying if you had Steve Carlton pitching for the Phillies now, that would be pretty good too.

Steve Carlton now pitching for the Phillies would be an improvement. Steve Carlton. I know who that is. But, no, I just think I just didn't buy it. I just don't buy him. And so he took me out. Two, the Atlanta of it all. Now, look, I love a tax break.

Nobody loves tax breaks more than me. I would do this podcast in Atlanta if I could. I have been arguing that we should. Because of the massive taxes that we're paying during this podcast in Los Angeles. It's cost prohibitive. Sidebar, I don't know what tax breaks are. I don't know how they work.

But for all the good things that Atlanta has brought us, and they brought us a lot. And Atlanta's a wonderful city, great place to visit. I think even the people who live in Atlanta, even the people who make the TV show called Atlanta, will agree that the show of last year. Absolutely. That the metro core of the city is not the most cinematic or interesting.

Interesting. So there's a moment in the opening of this movie where I'm like, okay, let's get going. I'll get the blues explosion playing. I love this song. Look at John Hamm's cool hair. And as he gets out of the car, Cox's machine gun flips back the hair. You visibly see a Schlotsky's behind him. And I'm like, come on, man.

Oh, interesting. Schlotskies? This is a movie that is set nowhere. See, for me, that you are not, you just were not on board for this movie. So much so that you are noticing that. But that's the first second of the film. Yeah. That's immediately, I was like, if this movie, I want a movie to be about a place.

You film this movie in New York, you film it in New Orleans, you film it in, you film it in the Anthony Bourdain episode of Houston. I'm like, this is great. This is a place where they could film it. And so they filmed it there. And it's just visually so drab, despite the pirate techniques of the purchase. I agree that I think that we've now reached maximum Atlanta in terms of. So those are my actual criticisms. Yeah.

Well, just in terms of like the showing up in all the Marvel movies and everything looks like an industrial park kind of. The bigger thing about it that I just didn't is that I feel like it was essentially it's an empty film. It is, you know, everyone's having good time. He certainly wants to play you the soundtrack and show you how good his music taste is. But in terms of actually having any depth or anything beneath the surface, it just, I just thought it was an empty exercise. And I'm increasingly less into that, you know. I just find it a little bit. I didn't find it satisfying.

Okay. And I saw it in the theater. People keep getting at me saying, did you see it in the back of a Delta airplane? That would be a dope delta if you could get baby driver. Also, I may have liked him more because I would have been drunker. Yeah. Sure. That's my thing.

But I understand why people want to love something and I would rather people love this than something else. I just, I don't think it was that good. So I want Jason to talk about one thing I will say, I agree with some of your points, but I don't think that they bothered me as much. I agree with Jason that Elgort is perfect for the role. We talked about this a little while ago around the office where I was like, I don't, I have personal beef with him.

Did you know about this? Do you know about this? No. I wrote a blog post years ago when he was in Fultonar Stars when he showed up at a Knicks game and he was wearing a hat. And it looked like it was the first time you'd ever put a hat on. It was just like that? Was it?

Do you know if it might have been the first hatty morning? I don't think it was because he took personal issue with this piece. And it was like just me being like your boys at this at this Knicks game. And he tweeted at me, come to Brooklyn and I will dunk on you and tweeted a video of him dunking on a playground somewhere. Wow. So did you go? No, no. I wasn't specific enough. You coward. Chris Ryan.

But this is not somebody that I'm rooting for necessarily. But I don't think, I can't imagine what this movie would have been like, even take out 83-time Cruz. Maybe I just ride for my boy more than you realize. Put in 15 or 14 miles teller. Or put in whoever you want to do is the replacement. It's actually not the same movie. David Sims had a really good piece in the Atlantic that was kind of breaking down

baby driver in the content. of Haste movies and specifically getaway car movies and comparing him to Ryan Gosling and Ryan O'Neill and Driver. I like that movie. And just the sort of like this sort of placid mute bystander while all this stuff is happening around him. That kind of brought the movie into a little bit more focus with me. I agree with you on the Atlanta stuff. I think for me, the big problem here, outside of the, whether you want to talk about whether

or not it's empty or not, is that Baby Driver is a movie that's a love letter to movies like point break and speed. that came out at a time when movies like that could exist in their own world and not have to be, they grew into being like, you know what, point break is actually a perfect movie. Sure. There's nothing, I would not change a note about it. Bad boys too. Yeah, exactly.

And right now, when those movies come out, they're like, well, what does this mean for Edgar Wright's future? And should he have, you know, like, and all this, like, it has to carry a certain weight that those movies were never really intended to do. You mean we shouldn't examine the white privilege at work in the justice system at the end of Baby Driver? Do you really want to do that? No, I don't. Did that actually bother you? No.

I just wanted to say it. So with that, I'll just say that I think that one of the issues with this movie is that I think it's good for movies for movies like this to exist. And I enjoyed it while I was watching it. And then when I left, I was like, well, you know, that, that and that. I just don't think I'm on team movies. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's good for movies. But like, I saw it as a movie.

Yeah, yeah. I understand. I understand. All right. I loved it. You know, I, I, I, I, I, you know, I'm reading the hammer. You sat through that. Thank you.

I loved it, you know, and that is not to discount some of the things you said. You know, like I am inclined to agree that Atlanta right now is what Toronto was 15 years ago or 10 years ago. Like we we see this kind, there is a certain blandness to the city itself. Again, I was busy just enjoying it. And so I did, that didn't take me out of it, really, you know. And I, and same for Ansel Elgord. Elgord, yeah. Who I thought, you know, and who I did not see fault in our stars, so I'm not super familiar with him.

Did you see him wear a hat? I've never seen him wear a hat, so I don't know his, you know, how good he is at it. But my boy Chris Ryan here says he's no good. Yeah, so. And Chris is wearing a hat right now. Oh, yeah. And by the way, Chris, you're killing this hat. Thanks, your hat game is on point.

Thanks. But I was just like, I don't know, I really, for whatever reason, I just, I was fully on board. I really dug it. And to me, this movie is we should, there should. should always be movies this good. You know what I mean? It should not be hard. Like I don't, here's what you know, like, and I full disclosure, I know Edgar Wright. He's a friend of mine. Like, he's somebody that I, I know in the world. And so like,

I feel like this is a, this is a, this is a, I really enjoyed this movie. But I don't think this is like an outsized masterpiece. Like, I don't, you know what I mean? Like, but what I think is, I think this is a great movie. You know what I mean? And I really, I want there to be movies like this all the time. I agree with you about that. And I do think that's why people. People get very upset when there's an opposing viewpoint about this movie because what people are saying is that. They're saying, I want to love things. I want there to be, I want to have a good time. I don't want an expanded universe.

I just want to have this experience with a specific point of view, the specific set of actors, a specific soundtrack. And then that's that experience. So I completely agree with you about that. I just wanted something. I'm being greedy. I wanted something more. But that to me is expectations. You wanted something more versus like getting the movie.

You were pretty sincerely excited for it. I would say that. I was. And I think that what this lacked, you know, I think one of the reasons why I liked, I like his, the Cornetto trilogy. Sure. I can drop it. I was testing it out.

Came out of my mouth funny, but I'm going to stay with it. Really good. There was a emotional point of view to those movies that was consistent, right? Simon Pegg and Nick Frost, who are their own talents and I bring their own stuff to to it. But, you know, there's something in those movies about getting, about the, loving genre and loving childhood and loving your friends, but then getting older, and there's a certain melancholy to those movies that's baked in that allows for all the craziness

and the camera trickery around it. This is an ode to something that I believe Edgar Wright is passionate about in his own life, like a certain kind of movie, a certain type of story, and it lacked that third gear for me. You know, but I do think that you're right, that it's unfair to, in some level, to single this out because he can only make the movie he wants to make. I'm thrilled that it's doing well. honestly, I am thrilled that it's doing well financially because that speaks well for his career

and for hopefully non-franchisey things in the future. But he can only make the movie. He can't make the movie culture around it. So in a better year, there are 10 highly specific, interesting standalone movies that we could be having this conversation about. It's too much spotlight on it, although he is benefiting from it.

Interestingly, this movie was supposed to come out in the fall, and it didn't. He was testing so well or something? This upcoming fall, They moved it because it was testing earlier. Because it was testing earlier. I think it felt like it could be a big summer movie rather than an intense like fall prestige, like Oscar-y kind of. I don't know if that was their plan, but it was moved.

And I think there's something about that that I feel like speaks to its just kind of fantastic kind of summer cinema. And I'm saying that as someone who has a movie at the same time as his movie. You know what I mean? And I'm heartbroken because it's. It's crushing us, but, like, I really loved this movie. But that's actually one of the true geniuses of the summer is the marketing studio person who saw that opening, who saw that this might be a soft summer and that there's room for a movie for people to love, not just tolerate. To get oiled up for Dunkirk.

You know, you guys are so psyched for Dunkirk. How are you not psyched for Dunkirk? I'm going to see it. It's cool. It's fine. I want to talk about late period Brannaw Renaissance, the Brannasance. The Brannasance? The Brannisance.

You want to know how psyched I am for Dunkirk? I watched a actor's roundtable with Harry Stiles and three other dudes with three names each. Really? Like Todd Lloyd. So Harry Stiles is the only person you knew by name? Yes, I've never heard of these dudes. And an actor's round table. Because the whole thing is like it's like unknown so it doesn't take you out of it even though Tom Hardy and Mark Rylins and Kenneth Braner in it.

Oh, Mark Rylans. All day. Every day. The way he's like, no, this is how they would have said Dunkirk. Yeah. It's like, Dunkirk. I was like, yes. He's the best.

Accuracy. Is that Harry Stiles are doing? Mark Rylans. No, but the guys who were talking about. talking in this actor's roundtable definitely, definitely just found out what Dunkirk was.

They were just so funny. They were just like, it's fucking scary on that beach. That was intense for those guys. All right. I mean,

I feel like the one other thing I wanted to mention as like a, I was curious because we're all around the same age and I feel like we all grew up loving movies

and listening to music and stuff like that. And I was wondering if this was maybe subconsciously something that was bothering you. I don't like to cycle analyze you,

I do. Can I tell you something? I love to be psychoanalyzed. I pay someone very well for that. The movie opens with this great, almost wordless sequence set to John Spencer Blues Explosions and Bell Bottoms. The Orange album came out during the end of our high school careers, I think. High school careers like we were quarterbacks. And it's just like you're sitting there and you're watching.

I was talking with Fantasy about this where you're just like, I can't believe somebody put John Spencer Blues Explosion and Bell Bottoms in a fucking movie. They put John Spencer in the movie. in it. They robbed a bank, yeah. Walter Hill's in it. And there's almost sometimes, this happens more and more where I feel like, I'm watching something on screen that's like intruding on my imagination.

You know what I mean? Where you kind of have this frame of reference or you have like, even like wouldn't it be cool if this ever happened? I like heist movies and John Spencer Booz explosion. And when you see that, you're almost like, oh my God. Like this is almost

it's almost like catching someone robbing your your mind a little bit. Not that I had that specific idea, but like that, we see that a lot where like, you know, something that you really want to happen comes true. This movie for me was like, I was like, I want to jump into this movie. Yeah. I had that feeling that I get when I get really excited about things where I'm like, ooh, me too. I want to be in there.

Like, put me in the car. You know, I got very excited. And it was a lot of it was because the music choices resonated with me. and the style of movie resonated with me. I would have liked the movie more if during one of the chases you just emerged from the trunk. Like, hey guys, what are we doing?

What's up, guys? What do we up to you? This is a prank. Just me and Andrea Savage. Our characters from sleeping with other people. Can I also just... You can tell that Fox and Ham and Spacey, because those are pretty small parts

for such big actors, like had a blast doing it. And it's just those scenes especially are my favorites the ones planning the job and all the like, you know, Kevin Spacey at the chalkboard. That stuff's great. We should talk about that this movie celebrates someone that we were celebrating the other week, Sky Ferreira. Oh, yeah.

Sky Ferreira as mom. Yeah. Baby just wants someone who looks like his mom. It seems like his mom. And it's the same job as a mom. Isn't that great? That's kind of interesting. Let's talk about that.

And I loved Lily James as well. By there, that would be the French move version. The Olivier Aseus version of Baby Driver is solely about his love for his, his place, sexual love for his mother. Except to start, Forte. Yeah. Yeah. Or Matthew Almerack and age. All right, we should wrap this up.

We're going to take a quick break to hear from our sponsors. Then Jason's sticking around with us to talk to Andy Sandberg about his movie Tour to Pharmacy that's coming out on HBO. July 8th. Anything else going on with you? With me? Yeah. I want people to listen to your Mark Maren episode. I loved it.

Oh, thank you. I mean, I'm very jealous when people appear on other podcasts. I'm jealous when you guys refer to other people as friends of the podcast like Jake Johnson. What the hell? Where's he been recently? Yeah. He hasn't been on it over here. What's he up to with you guys?

Literally nothing. You're our only friend. No, yeah. I loved doing that Marin actually. I'd never, he and I don't know each other well, so it was like a really interesting conversation, actually. It really was. I did not know many things that I learned about you.

Oh, sure. It's fascinating. People should listen to it also. I think you caught Merrin at a great time because he's very cuddly right now. He is. Because he's so good on Blow and everyone loves him. And he, I'm listening to the interviews. He is just in a very gentle place.

No, it's pretty great. Is Glow your jam? You watch anything else? I'm only a couple in. I'm loving it so far, but I don't have a take really because I'm really, I'm just starting it.

Glow is kind of, kind of has like a 100% approval rating. I love it. My wife gives it 100% approval rating. We are watching. That's what we want to watch right now. I'm a huge fan of everybody in it, Allie, and Betty.

Speaking of sleeping with other people, the secret grail of comedy. She's so funny. Oh my God. She is, and I've done, like, I did community with her. I've done a whole bunch of stuff with Albury, and she is a legit genius.

Like, top to bottom, like, total genius. And Betty Gilpin, I think is fantastic. Marin, obviously terrific. Liz Fleehive, who wrote it, I think is a genius. Like, it's kind of amazing that show is that they're doing a TV show about the gorgeous ladies of wrestling, which I don't know if you guys remember, but I very vividly remember it. Talk about infringing on my imagination. I remembered very well. And, yeah, that was, and it really was like that.

That's the thing that I don't know if people understand. People watching it now, watching the show, and then maybe they go on YouTube or they see these clips, they've been circulating on Facebook. And I think for a lot of people, it's disorienting. Like, I can't believe there are these stereotypes rapping at me badly. Imagine having no context. No YouTube. No framing device. No, like, here's the real heart in your way into this story because it's really a story about the struggle of friends and whatever in society.

No, these are just stereotypes wrapping on television. In the afternoon, I remember being on at like 5 p.m. Oh, yeah. Or earlier. Yeah, earlier. Yeah. Weird, right? It was on the weekends.

It was on the weekend. That's what I remember it as. I don't know, you know, it was. It was a time change between Massachusetts and Philadelphia. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, no, I remember it being like a great, wrestling was so important, you know. And then when Glow came out, it was like, holy shit, there's girls too.

It's not just Elizabeth. It's formative. Yeah. All right. We're going to wrap up. Sandberg's next. We will see Jay. Jason on Tuesday at Largo.

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I'm furious. I feel betrayed. Do you want to have this out now? I was told that you were going to be here in person and that we were going to fight. I'm never going to fight you. You would tear me limb from limb. Oh, no, we'd mostly just end up hugging. For what it's worth, I was just asking Jason about people who you don't get along with IRL in Hollywood. And I keep trying to find dirt that you work well together on screen.

two work very well together on screen, but maybe that comes from a different kind of friction between the two of you. Wouldn't that be great if we just hated each other? It would be funny. It would be really funny, like really cold to each other. Manzuka, you and McBrayer have a big beef, right? Oh, yeah. You know what? I will put that out into the world right now.

Jack McPraer is not a good person. It's an act. He is awful. He has a hateful black soul. No. You just took me all the way out, Chris. Thank you. That was on purpose.

We don't want you to get in trouble here. Yeah, you're taking my mic. Don't do not silence me when I am telling the truth about Jack McBrere. Kenneth the page from 30 Rock is a lie. Now I have to say that he is the loveliest. Before you get us into any more, Trub. He's really nice. Yeah.

Andy, we want to talk to you about Tour de Pharmacy, which premieres on HBO in July 8th. This is an incredibly silly. It's an incredibly funny hour-long documentary. I have to ask you, this seems like very, very 10,000 feet here, but how do these things come together? Because the size of the Rolodex required to get this particular cast, which is unlike any ever assembled, plus filming people on bicycles. I know Murray Miller wrote it and Jake Somansky directed it. How does this talk me through it? How does it even begin to get to the place where you have this film to show to the world?

This one, in some ways, was easier because it's the second. You know, we did Seven Days in Hell, which was the Wimbledon one with the John Snow. Did you call him John Snow on set? I was just going to ask the same question. He insists on it, right? Yeah, you love it. A lot of people don't know that Kid Harrington is in character year-round. He's like Dale Dayliss?

So when he's an actor on other jobs, you have to call him John Snow when he's not. nodding character as whatever he's doing on that job. And when he was dead on the show. Yeah. Yeah. Dead. Constantly. He did.

He did. He did. He's like, it's John Snow. Call me John Snow. And then when they were like, okay, we're rolling. He was like, okay, now I'm my character from this movie. Yeah. Anyhow, point being, because we had made one already, it was a lot easier to cast because

we could just sort of send seven days in hell to people and say, like, do you like this vibe? Because it's pretty bonkers. and if you're into that, then please come do it. And the only people that said, yes, were people who were super into that vibe. How much of the vibe is scripted from the beginning and how much just spins out of some of the interviews?

Because obviously there's a structure here and you have the characters, but then you have a bunch of people in this movie who I think you put them in front of a camera, they might say some stuff that'll surprise you. Yes, the talking heads are where we play around the most. Oftentimes we'll say like, okay, say, for example, Well, Jeff Goldblum, you're going to play the older version of Viennes, which is very exciting. Next week, we're just going to shoot.

He goes, great. He's got probably 15 scripted lines in the script, right? And then we write 10 pages of all, and then while we're shooting me and Murray and Jake throw out, you know, a bunch of crazies. And then we end up with, like, you know, an hour of footage of Jeff Goldblum that we can sort of pepper in all throughout when we feel like it's going to work. And I don't want to spoil anything about this. because it is a journey. But Jeff Goldblum looked more excited to say the word jizz than I've ever seen him about anything.

It's kind of this spiritual sequel to Life Finds Away, you know? I'm excited for that to become my ringtone. He really took to it, is what I'm saying. I have a question for you, Andy, and I hope you don't mind me revealing this because I know this as a friend, but I know up until this movie you did not know how to ride a bike. So how did that work out for the film?

Wow. I mean, most of it's CG, thanks for that, you as I will now call you but never have before. Please do. Many do. No, I was probably the least proficient on a bike at the entire cast, including fully sure a shot. Not a lot of people know. She won one of the legs of the Tour de France in 1978. Just won them. Yep.

She burned brightly. She peaked at the Pyrenees, like she was at the top, yeah. One of the other things that impressed me most, and I apologize, it's very difficult to talk about this without giving away some of the best jokes. But you have people in this project doing accent work just on a Thespian level. I didn't know they were capable of. John Sina does a terrific, a Germanic, sort of vaguely Austrian accent. Yeah, Austrian. You have James Marsden, by the way, terrific.

Just, I mean, obviously terrific looking. Isn't he great? He's really funny. I mean, he's really funny, and he's British, and he fell into it deep and was, like, incredible at it. And he actually is someone who did improvise quite a bit, and he's a lot of it. He's a funny guy. And you have Will Forte, who apparently is fluent in French. I did not know that.

Wilf's not sure if you're serious or not, but he does not know French. He learned his French lines pretty much the night before and morning of and sort of learned them phonetically. and that was who we cast as the French guy. Of course. And is that because, and everybody knows this, there are no French actors in the world right now? Correct. Yeah.

None. Are you ever... Are you ever... It was either Will Forte or the girlfriend, a glorious bastard. Yes. One or the other. He was able to say the... He was able to ask someone to...

I won't ruin the joke, but he asked someone to do something to him in a sexual way and he was able to sell that line in French better than a French woman could, I think. Yeah. I think that's definitely. And that's what gets him all the parts, all the French parts.

He's in the new Olivier Aceh movie, I think. Can you talk a little... He did his own dub work on Nebraska in France. He's really good as the Night Fox in Ocean 12. I love this theory that Will Forte is Vincent Cassell. Yeah. Yeah. He was good in Jason Boren. He was diesel.

I'd like to get that rumor started. Who among the non-cometic performers was really ready to play the most? Because you have, as we've been alluding to, we've been naming names, there are this many people in the film because in addition to people you've worked before comedically and Jeff Goldblum, you have Danny Glover, you have Dolph Lundgren, you have JJ Abrams, Felicia Rashad, Kevin Bacon, and then you have Lance Armstrong. I mean, Mike Tyson. So who, I guess two-part question.

How can you tell who's ready to play if you're behind the camera throwing stuff at them? And then who surprised you the most? Well, certain people you get there and you realize, like, you're probably best to just try and get the scripted. Because it's outside their own comfort zone, you know, and you don't want to push them. You'll, like, try a few little things. And then there's people like Marsden and, I mean, you know who actually showed up, like, locked and loaded. was Orlando Bloom, which we were really excited about doing an Italian accent.

That was unclear. I knew he was European. Yes. I mean, I would say John Cena, but he's really known for comedy at this point. So it wasn't that surprising, but he was really funny, too, and went for it hard and tried things.

But, yeah, I mean, for some reason, the one that popped in my head was Orlando, just because he's really not known for that kind of a thing. and he had a blast. And he's also really good at cycling. Like he does it. I'm going to say professionally. Wow.

He's a professional cyclist, yeah. And you are his sports agent, right? Because not a lot of people know you have a side business that is just a sports agency. Yeah, it's actors that are also professional athletes. Yep. Actors are ripping actor athletes. It's like a music agent that would rep like Russell Crow or something. Yep, exactly.

I feel like what you're playing with in this is like he's generally pretty well known and accepted that everyone in cycling is on an enormous amount of drugs, or at least they used to be. Yeah. Was there any moment during the making or conception of this where someone said, you know, you might really, really offend some people in Europe with this? I mean, is there any concern that this is an image of cycling that someone is. First of all, I don't even know who is big cycling, so maybe you can tell me that. We were never really concerned about it because it's so crazy. Like if we were doing it in a way where in the end we were like, and that's why everyone should be ashamed.

Like we're not, we didn't do it to sort of make any point other than just that it's so crazy that the sport has so much crazy behavior surrounding it and just the look of it and the era of that sport we really liked for comedy. One thing that was interesting in sort of researching the Tour de France and cycling in general when we were getting ready to make it. How long the history of cheating in the sport is, like way before there were performance-enhancing drugs and stuff. In the very beginning, it was apparently a very working-class sport,

and it was created by sponsors of, like, magazines and newspapers or something, to advertise, and the riders were physically incapable of doing the amount of cycling that actually was required, and every night they would drink tons of gear and watch. to sort of deal with their body pain and would ride drunk as well. And then as it progressed, it got like more and more nefarious.

There was a guy who apparently left the race and took a train for like a good chunk of the race and then rejoined it. Like things that you're like, that sounds like, you know, a cartoon. There's no way that's true. But apparently it was. That basically is like a Looney Tunes cartoon.

I kind of respect it though, because I feel like with American sports There's all this subterfuge, and it's just like, well, he did a, had a little bit of amino acid when he was lifting. But, like, these guys, like, drain their bodies of all fluids and replace it with, like, Chita blood. Cocaine Gatorade. Yeah. And then they just go.

Yeah. Cheetah blood. I was wondering, Andy, did Kevin Bacon have any Quicksilver stories to talk about, you know, since this is his return to the bike? He did. He did bring up quick silver. He did bring up. I'm not kidding. Yeah.

He did bring it up. And we were all. And some of us had seen it and some of us were like, holy crap, I got to see that now. But he was laughing about it. He's like, I had fun. I had fun making that. I wanted to, I saw that movie when I was a kid and it made me desperately want to be a bike messenger. Yeah.

And then I saw the Joe Gordon-Levitt movie about being a bike messenger. And I was like, nah, not for me. Yeah, but during that whole period between the movies, the interregnum, you just wanted to be a bike messenger? I was a bike messenger. That's 25 years. I think baby driver would have been better if he had been a bike messenger. Agreed. 100% agree.

Definitely agree with that. Definitely agree. You blew it, Edgar. Yeah. We're putting everybody on blast today. That's what the show is. Old studio tours and putting Hollywood on blast. I have to ask, I'm sure everyone's asking you this, Andy, but is Lance Armstrong ready to laugh at him? Like, is he just ready to laugh? Did he come in saying, like, well, I guess I did some stuff, guys. Or was that a more delicately managed transaction to get him to be in the movie? That delicately managed. It was more like, here's the... it's a bit. We think it's funny

and we don't know where you're at with everything, but if you want to do it, we'd love for you to come do justice. And then he clearly is in some regard because he was up for it, you know, and we showed up and we had a ton of all and he did all of them and didn't really blink.

And he didn't talk a ton about it, and we obviously were not like pressing him because we didn't want it to be uncomfortable for him or for him to leave. So we kind of just shot the stuff that we had written, and it was actually totally pleasant,

and he had a good time doing it, I think. And not to sort of side-sever, but the biggest memory I have of the whole thing is that we flew to Austin to do it, and we got Franklin's barbecue, and it was incredible. Oh, yeah. Did you have to line up earlier, or did you get special treatment?

We paid someone to waste. We appreciate your honesty. They now, I will say this, They now have a, you can order in advance and just go pick it up, which I just did a couple weeks ago. Oh. Holy cow. Yeah. Yikes.

Also, La Barbecue, the other one there, also amazing. Yeah. Holy cow. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good out there. It would have been funny if you guys were talking with Lance and he was like, boy, this is pretty weird how you guys are doing a piece about like you're doing a movie about doping and biking. Yeah.

God, who would do that? Like, if he was just like oblivious to like the irony of it. Yeah. He's still the most famous cycle. Yeah. I felt like they had to ask him. Yeah. That would probably be important.

If you, yeah, if you ask somebody to name a cyclist, he's definitely the name to say. When you are describing these projects, the Wimbledon one and then Tord of Pharmacy, what term do you use? I mean, do you call these like mockumentaries, documentaries, or do you have your own vision for what they are that conveys it? Because I can't communicate what this is, especially once you get into the animated blood cells portion, which was my favorite.

I think mockumentary is the most clear. I mean, we were kind of joking about the other day where we were like, do we call it a special or a movie or a special presentation or like, what category are we going to submit it to not get nominated for an Emmy? So I think just mockumentary is probably the clearest, right? It's sort of like a goofier, more cartoony,

amped up dirty version of what we have known as mockumentary. I feel like you guys too, like taking as, and I'm not sure if this is exactly what happened, but like taking those kind of ESPN 30 for 30, you know, documentaries as your inspiration. But you guys are doing something that they, even though they're so silly and so stupid, they are really adhere to those structures that are really kind of baked into everything we watch now. You know, and having only seen the Wimbledon one, I feel like it shares something with like, what those guys are doing with documentary now and stuff. You know, it's not just like a send-up.

It's something, its own thing. Sure, that's accurate. I mean, it's definitely made lovingly in the way that we do watch and love those 30-4-30s and the HBO sports documentaries and stuff. And the fact that those have become so popular and so sort of ubiquitous, like it does feel like there's a new language for it because it's specifically about sports. similar, like you're saying,

isn't to how those guys do Doc now, and they're like, this one is like the Nanica, the North one, and this one is the chef's table or GiroDreams of Sushi. We know that language now. So in that way, you're spot on. That is definitely what we're going for it. There's jokes to be made that haven't totally necessarily been made yet

because that editing language is kind of new. Yeah, there's great visual jokes in there that are just because you're sending up the style that these things have now. kind of carved out for themselves. For sure. And it's all obviously in the tradition of like the Christopher guest and those guys, like the serious tone of any documentary treating it with reverence

when it's something really silly and stupid that is inherently funny. And for you guys. Hopefully our new twist on it. And for you guys, a lot of it is, I think this is true, just trying to get as much of Chris Romano's dick onto TV as possible. Is that right? 100%. I'm not going to act like this is the first time I've said this,

but we are hoping that Chris Romanos'clock. Romano's dick is the Sam Z of our universe where you have to have a cameo in everyone. There's a good amount of dick in this project. I can't wait. I don't want to spoil it, but you get some in the first 40 seconds at least. Is that just sort of a general HBO note for all their projects? That's a self-imposed mandate. Yeah.

We just like, we're also, you know, very interested in equal opportunity nudity. You know, we grew up watching HBO. and watching, you know, boobs on DreamOn and more recently boobs on entourage. And we were like, hey, why not a little wang with those boobs? A tradition unlike any other. We should let you go, but we do have, since Brooklyn Nine-Nine is coming back this fall. Is it season five already? Yeah.

And is there anything you can tease for us about what's coming up, especially involving Adrian Pimento, because we have him in-house. And if you'd like to pitch any story to him now, I'm sure he'd love to hear, particularly, you know, anything that might involve writing off his character in a dramatic or violent way. Well, not episode, Adrian Pimento murders Jake and Cold Bloods feels his personality. Yeah. And no one noticed. Yeah, it's a face-off kind of thing.

Wow. We do a face-off where I wear his face and he wears mine. It's pretty great. That's terrific. It's pretty great. Andy and I've been writing the whole episode this summer. It is 236 pages long. You guys have just been watching the last twin peaks over and over again.

Nicholas Cage is in. We're not sure as what. That's great. Jason, did you know that I actually do an impression of Nick Cage? Oh, that's right. I forgot that. Even better. You know what?

Cage is out. Andy's Cage is in. This is how magic happens. in Hollywood. Oh, yeah. I love it. This bit is going to come so full circle that it's just going to be me playing Jake. That's probably for the best for everyone.

Andy, thank you so much for taking you some time from Parts Unknown to speak with us. Tour de Pharmacies on HBO. It's July 8th. It's really worth seeing. I didn't improv Cheetah Blood. That's a plot point. I love. I love it. Well, thank you guys, and thank you, Jason,

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