The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe - 162: OCCASIONALLY--Independence Day

Episode Date: July 4, 2020

In honor of Independence Day, Mike chews up the scenery with a recitation of what may be the most important speech ever delivered, by the man historians call "The Forgotten Founder." ...

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Today, it's occasionally that thing I do from time to time when I don't have the time to actually write an original mystery to satisfy your boundless curiosity, but instead rely upon something that somebody else wrote that lines up serendipitously with the occasion in question, which today, of course,
Starting point is 00:00:48 is the occasion of our independence. Not July 4th, that's just a date. It's Independence Day, and I wanted to read you something, something that many of you have probably heard before, maybe not the whole thing, something that I've been familiar with, a speech for most of my life, but didn't really take the time to read from start to finish until this week.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And when I did, I was kind of blown away by it. You know the author, and you know the last seven words, give me liberty or give me death. As sayings go, as hashtags go, that would have been one of the best of all time. maybe the best. And I would go so far as to say this is one of the best speeches ever written, except that it wasn't. Patrick Henry did not write this speech.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We don't know what the exact text was. His remarks at St. John's Church in 1775 were cobbled together after the fact by those in attendance who were quite understandably blown away by his performance. And that's what it was. it was not merely a speech. It was a tour de force, an acting performance if there ever was one. There was a minister there who watched the proceedings and later described Patrick Henry as,
Starting point is 00:02:15 quote, having an unearthly fire burning in his eye as he spoke. He also said, excitement began to play more and more upon his features as he spoke, the tendons in his neck standing out white and rigid like whip cords. Part of the reason that I wanted to read this aside from the occasion and aside from the fact that he did it without notes is because I just don't think anybody else in Congress or in the Senate today could approach a performance like this. We just don't talk this way.
Starting point is 00:02:55 We just don't present ourselves this way politically. There was a guy on hand, along with Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, named Edward Carrington. He was a colonel. And he watched through an open window. And he was so moved that when Patrick Henry finished, he turned and said, this guy Carrington did. He said, let me be buried in this spot. And when he died decades later, his widow honored his request. The point is,
Starting point is 00:03:25 it's not just the last seven words. It's the entire speech. And I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall back then to watch it. They say that when the speech ended, when he actually said, give me liberty or give me death, he was shouting, right? He was screaming. The spittle was flying from his mouth. And he picked up a letter opener and pretended to stab himself in the chest.
Starting point is 00:03:54 So heartfelt. was this performance. Anyway, that's what convinced me that it would be fun to read and maybe even important to hear. Our country is struggling, obviously,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and Independence Day for a lot of people means a lot of different things all of a sudden. And I understand. Patrick Henry's is another complicated figure, problematic by today's standards.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Fascinating guy. 18 kids he had. 18 kids, like 100 grandchildren. They say today that his descendants number more than 100,000, which I guess would make him more of a father of our country than Washington. But that, of course, is not the problem. The problem is he held slaves, 67 of them when he died, in fact. And also interesting, he opposed the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:04:55 He thought it was far too restrictive, but in opposing it, we actually wound up getting something called the Bill of Rights. So it was a different time. And we can look back through the lens of history, I suppose, and conclude any number of things, but one thing is for sure. On the 23rd of March, 1775, Patrick Henry saw some things that most everyone else did not. And he did not hold his tongue. he sat there in the third pew listening to his countrymen
Starting point is 00:05:28 talk about how war with Britain would be a disaster and a mistake and when he could take a no longer he stood up and he turned to the crowd and he started talking and this is what he said the way I heard it anyway or more to the point the way I read it no man thinks more highly than do I of the patriotism as well as the abilities of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house
Starting point is 00:06:00 But different men often see the same subject in different lights, and therefore I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if I, entertaining as I do, opinions of a character, very opposite to theirs, speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the house is one of awful moments to our country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery, and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. Only in this way can we hope to arrive at the truth and fulfill our great responsibility, which we hold to God and country. Should I keep my opinions to myself at such a time, for fear of giving,
Starting point is 00:06:53 offense. I'd be guilty of treason toward my country and toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. Mr. President, it is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. But is this the part of wise men? engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be among those who having eyes see not and having ears, hear not the things which so concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
Starting point is 00:07:42 I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? let us not deceive ourselves. These are the implements of war and subjugation, the last arguments to which kings resort.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I ask, gentlemen, what means this martial array if not to force us into submission? Has Great Britain any enemy in this quarter of the world to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us. They can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And what have we to oppose them? Shall we try argument? Gentlemen, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? No, nothing. We have held the subject up in every light, but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find not already exhausted?
Starting point is 00:09:58 I beseech you, sir. Let us not deceive ourselves. We have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned. We have remonstrated. We have supplicated. We have prostrated ourselves before the throne. and we have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and parliament.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Well, our petitions have been slighted. Our remonstrances have produced nothing but more violence and more insult. Our supplications have been disregarded, and we have been spurned with contempt from the foot of the throne. It is in vain, I tell you, in vain that after all these things we indulge the fond home, hope of peace and reconciliation. Gentlemen, there is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle
Starting point is 00:11:08 in which we have been so long engaged and which we have pledged ourselves to never abandon until that glorious object of our contest had been obtained, then we must fight. I repeat it, sir, we must fight. An appeal to arms and to the God of host is all that has left us. They tell us, sir, they tell us we are weak, unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger?
Starting point is 00:11:41 Will it be the next week or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope until our enemies have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature has placed in our power. Millions of people armed in the holy cause of liberty in such a country as that which we possess are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. There is a just God, sir, who presides
Starting point is 00:12:33 over the destinies of nations and who will raise up friends to fight with us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone. It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. Even if we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery. Our chains are forged. Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston. The war is inevitable, and I say, let it come. I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is vain to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen cry, peace, peace, but there is no peace. The war is actually begun. The next gale that sweeps down from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethren are
Starting point is 00:13:37 already in the field? Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. If you work in university maintenance, Granger considers you an MVP, because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip off, and Granger is your trusted partner.
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